Seddit has made me more confident, changed my frame of mind, taught me about the ups and downs - I now am able to approach better...but i ALMOST NEVER GET A RETURN CALL etc etc!!! Wtf??

Edgar_Allan_Rich · 2012-04-07T04:14:50+00:00

First off (maybe I'm taking your post too literally), depending on the age of the women we're talking about here, lots of them just don't dial phones and use their vocal chords these days. I basically never get actual calls back. Most chicks let me go to voicemail and then immediately text me back. It's weird but I got used to it. Work on your text game.

Not much detail here, and I understand the brevity of your post, but here are a few rhetorical questions for you:

Maybe it's simply timing? You just didn't catch them at the right moment? In the middle of a breakup perhaps...

Perhaps you aren't giving them enough to go on? Maybe you going through the initial steps like a pro, but not following through with enough substance in the interaction to get them hooked? Be interesting.

Are you interesting? If not, become interested in things. You can't fake that shit.

Perhaps you aren't "hooking" them in your initial interaction. Are you being clear in your intentions? Are you being (subtly of course) up front and open about why you are talking to them? Flirting, touching, etc.? You can't play any of the follow-up cards ('text' game, 'I'm fun don't you wish you were hanging out with me' game) if you don't hook them in the first place. Gotta make them want you from the get go. Be Donald Draper.

Tip for hooking them: Walk them through as many mental experiences as possible during your initial interaction. Picture it this way: A solid date takes you from dinner to a fun event to a walk up the street to a bar then another bar and then back to her place (never stay in the same place for too long), and after only a few hours it seems like you've experienced a lot more together than you really have, and all the while you've had stimulating things to talk and interact with. It's like an emotional roller coaster of an experience. You can do this in conversation as well by using non sequiturs and acting goofy and asking a lot of questions that seem out of left field but are actually related to the previous topic of conversation. Change the subject a lot and get her to laugh. Then get her number, make her laugh one last time, touch her, look her in the eyes and say you'll see her later, and then you're gone.

Do you really look your best? Are you perhaps trying too hard with your looks? You don't look gay do you? Of course not, otherwise they'd ask you out for appletinis.

Are you reading them right? Sure you can get a number, but you can usually tell if they are going to answer the phone just by the initial interaction.

Are you genuinely interested in them? You have to be genuinely interested in them or they won't be interested in you back (Dale Carnegie, baby).

I don't use pickup lines. Maybe you use pickup lines and it just isn't working?

All I could think of off the top.

Good luck man!

D3l7a3ch0 · 2012-04-07T03:34:54+00:00

yeah. I used to force myself to approach a girl just on the basis that she was attractive. but looking back, I think it was robotic. now I only "count" the times with girls I'm attracted to. just because she's pretty doesn't mean you have to throw yourself under the bus. lol

maybe the only difference between whether she's being played or not is whether you genuinely like her. (and she can tell the difference).

just a thought.

I still talk to pretty girls, though, like if there's something inconsequential on my mind.

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-04-07T05:19:20+00:00

As an apology for threadjacking your post, I will try to answer you seriously.

I have been watching a video seminar with Jon Sinn where he complains about this exact problem, every woman he met would flake out. He said that raising his standards and qualifying heavily changed that and reduced his flake rate. Getting a woman to qualify herself to you will get her emotionally invested in you. This is a good strategy. When you meet a woman, you get her attracted and her buying temperature is high. Then a day later, she cools off and loses interest, and you're not there to warm her up again. So you need to screen out more women who are going to end up unattracted to you, and qualify women who are more compatible with you and will ultimately be more attracted.

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