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So we got a fake number because we did something wrong or we didn't. Great input.
/r/seduction11/02/18 05:15 PM
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Believe it or not, I've found that a surprising amount of beautiful women seem to be really intrigued by D&D, but there is no way in hell I'm going to start carrying a D20 around.
/r/seduction09/11/17 08:22 PM
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Okay, sure, it's rude. If you and the others want to spend your energy niceguy-crusading about it to no avail while the rest of us let their numbers fade to the bottom of the list, out of sight and out of mind, then be our guest. That it the point that seems to be flying over all of your heads. You are giving way too many fucks right now.
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:44 PM
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I usually follow up the second message with a giant dildo through her window with a note attached that says "drinks?"
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:36 PM
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From the perspective of the initiator, yes. This is exactly how we have to look at it if we are trying to pick up women. When we aren't trying to pick up women we aren't thinking this way at all. From the perspective of women, who are generally passive and not expected to initiate, of course they are just living their lives. But they are also communicating at the same time. Everyone does it. For example, most people give the 'fuck off' queues to bums when we know they are going to approach us fo…
/r/seduction24/10/17 05:38 PM
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Your first problem may be that you have free time during the day to be gaming. Go live your life.
/r/seduction24/10/17 05:35 PM
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Work on it. Inner game, posture, hair, clothes, facial & body language; all improvable and what draw attention.
/r/seduction24/10/17 05:34 PM
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You should make a separate post giving specific examples of things that started happening to you after you lost weight that never happened previously. If your experience has really been as night and day as you say, you have the type of info that would be very helpful to all of us no matter how attractive we are or our experience level. I would personally like to read that.
/r/seduction16/10/17 04:05 AM
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If you really want to use the business analogy, which I hate because it makes us sound like douchebags: All good companies have sales and marketing teams, but only the best companies know how to close a good deal or when to fire a customer. You aren't selling yourself to one woman at a time, you should be selling your story to the world and drawing them all in.
/r/seduction30/09/17 04:09 PM
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It's because after 7 years seddit has concluded that "confidence" is the only important word in the English language. We just saved you tons of reading.
/r/seduction28/09/17 06:17 PM
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Real answers: Things that attract attention Things they can pretend to be a part of so they can put pictures of it on instagram so they can show off Things that they can participate in without having to actually contribute anything or take emotional risks Things that make them feel excited/validated emotionally Things that show confidence Examples: Boating Throwing events/parties Singing in a (good) band Painting well enough to have shows that people come to Travel Dancing (well)
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:09 PM
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You should pick a point.
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:58 PM
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In my city it's cool not to be in a band. Too many d-bags got it in their head that chicks liked the "rockstar-vibe" and ruined it for those of us who actually like performing music.
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:56 PM
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This is the only advice.
/r/seduction16/03/17 07:47 PM
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Some points for thought: 1) Women definitely want men just as much. The difference is that men have been socialized to be initiators. That's where your experience with gay men comes from. I've been there. 2) Lower your standards and see what happens. Move to a place where there are fewer men and see what happens. Move to a place where there are fewer people in the dating pool and see what happens. Move to a place where there is literally less to do and see what happens. Every time I move my skil…
/r/seduction03/02/17 06:32 AM
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Austin, TX here. Don't move here. Just kidding, we are supposed to say that. Austin is great.
/r/seduction03/02/17 05:41 AM
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Because it's true. But the hard part is figuring out who "yourself" really is and then allowing him to come out. It takes constant posts like this to make that a reality.
/r/seduction03/02/17 05:40 AM
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I just popped in here to see if this place was as crazy as it used to be and it has clearly gotten worse. This entire thread screams beta male insecurity. I hope you all realize this. Point for point: If you understood the difference in how male and female humans use and value communication you wouldn't be worried about this and would be above it. She made herself vulnerable to you by saying "I love you", you waited a long time to reciprocate because you had to work up the courage, and by then s…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/17 10:14 PM
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First off, anyone here even reading this needs to realize how well off we all are to even have computers in our hands and internet connections. That makes us better off than most people on the planet. If you're feeling butthurt, please stop. Second, happiness shouldn't be your #1 priority in life. If it is then you guarantee yourself relentless disappointment. Find a new priority pronto and stop worrying about the fact that you are surrounded by people who are literally better than you. By bette…
/r/seduction27/01/17 05:52 PM
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I read the whole post and think the whole gravitational field stuff sounds absolutely wacky, but I was surprised to find that I agreed with the rest of the post and I can confirm that it works. He is just describing it completely differently than I would. I wouldn't call it "anti-method" I would call it "extreme inner-game". Yes, I get approached by beautiful women occasionally. No, I am not very attractive other than basic grooming and clothes. Yes, compared to everyone else you feel out of pla…
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:04 PM
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I think you you need to ask yourself a bigger question: why aren't you confident that women are being honest with you? If you are in a relaxed environment where you aren't screaming into women's ears on a dance floor or competing for attention then you should be creating a rapport with these women so that they don't feel a need to lie to brush you off like a fly. Even in a daygame pickup at a grocery store I can create enough emotional connection to confidently know I'm getting a genuine answer …
/r/seduction21/01/17 12:36 AM
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You clearly haven't read this series from the beginning.
/r/seduction09/01/17 09:10 PM
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I don't mean to come off as rude, but OP has added a lot of pretty awesome free content here and you guys are wasting his time asking this question. You can watch his stories for first hand examples by adding him on snapchat, as he has stated many times in this series of posts. His handle is SnapSocialGuru. He has also answered this question already in other posts. At least read them.
/r/seduction09/01/17 09:08 PM
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I prefer to think of it this way: During the very first season of the NBA, the MVP was pretty bad by today's standards. However, there were already lots of natural born athletes out there who could have easily dunked a basketball.
/r/seduction09/01/17 08:58 PM
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You tell people you are sexually submissive.
/r/seduction05/01/17 07:01 PM
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Original, legit content in ever point.
/r/seduction05/01/17 07:00 PM
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The fuck? This post is like when you show up to a new job and instead of your trainer explaining how to actually do your job they just tell you which buttons to click. And it's like everyone upvoted it because it named the right buttons.
/r/seduction03/01/17 05:39 PM
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Finally a pitch with legit content.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:57 PM
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You can hit the save button under content heading at the top.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:55 PM
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Obviously this is a very popular post here so I hate to be the "get off my lawn" old man hater, but "this dog don't hunt" so to speak. I've lived my entire life in an area surrounded by 7 major colleges, large and small towns. I spent 12 years attending those colleges. You're right that you don't need to be walking into a house party and doing magic tricks, but that shit was proven obsolete in The Game itself about 75% way through the book. Which, by the way, is not a how-to book; it's a romanti…
/r/seduction06/12/16 04:31 PM
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Definitely a shit test. Handled very well. I don't think your reaction was over the top considering the environment.
/r/seduction29/11/16 09:56 PM
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I've heard mature men say way more childish things than that in an attempt to get laid.
/r/seduction29/11/16 09:54 PM
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It only gets worse as everyone gets older so get used to it. And by worse I mean more subtle and more important. They do it because (A) they have to weed out guys that they don't want to waste time on and (B) because if they don't then they'll feel like they are being easy/slutty.
/r/seduction29/11/16 09:52 PM
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Your misunderstanding of this post, these concepts, this community, and even the likely statistics regarding how many users here are effected considerably by autism, really upsets me because I wish I could help you understand. But since you claim to be autistic and clearly would need tons of foundation work, I would have absolutely no idea where to even begin. And in no way is that meant to diminish the plight of those living on the spectrum. All I can say is that you are missing something here.…
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:49 PM
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I agree. Kind of like how we say "never take advice from a fish on how to catch a fish" whenever a woman gives us dating advice, I'm not going to listen to this guy about what he thinks of SnapChat. The important thing is what women think of it. As a 34 year old I'm super out of the loop and probably won't do shit with it, but I enjoyed SnapChat 1.0 in its prime. This new wave intrigues me so I'm reinstalling based on this post.
/r/seduction21/11/16 07:57 PM
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I'm not going to pretend to be some sort of Buddhism expert but I certainly understand the basics and I think Buddhist monks are a perfect example of people who have chosen to be content with who they are despite the worldly desires that we discuss in forums like /r/seduction. The example was well received here.
/r/seduction20/11/16 06:07 AM
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Or to go one step further, why does a dancer continue to go watch ballet? I know it's not the same but while I'm taking a break at work I like to read all types of material here like it's a magazine. Not like I'm a master or anything but I'm certainly not a beginner. I'm an enthusiast.
/r/seduction20/11/16 05:59 AM
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I'm with most of the advice here. Would like to add. Yes, it won't help you in the long run to cry to a bunch of women, but don't be afraid to answer honestly to your bros when they ask you how you are doing. If you have valid concerns, be honest about them. There is a time and a place for crying of course, but keeping your emotions in the dark is trouble and really unhealthy. This is why being open and honest and crying in therapy is a good thing. When I realize I'm in an unreasonably bad mood …
/r/seduction12/11/16 01:03 AM
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This is a great book. +1
/r/seduction12/11/16 12:54 AM
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I'm gonna be a bit more reasonable and say that it very well may take more than 6 months for the effects of exercise to actually have any sort of effect on someone's mental well-being, and frankly may never do anything at all. This is in no way meant to discourage anyone from working out. Everyone should work out. My point is to avoid making guys like OP feel like they've failed yet again when 6 months from now lifting hasn't magically washed their low self-esteem away. Horrible myth that I wish…
/r/seduction12/11/16 12:51 AM
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While exercise and forcing yourself to stay mentally active is definitely good advice for anyone who is depressed, the point isn't to forget that you are depressed. In fact, trying to forget that you are depressed is actually bad advice. Look up the white bear experiment if you are wondering why.
/r/seduction24/10/16 04:27 PM
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I know this deadly feedback loop all too well. It's bullshit. Understanding that the two ideas are NOT actually part of the same feedback loop will help you to solve each independent problem using independent solutions. Depression can certainly cause missing out, but missing out should not cause real depression. Missing out could cause sadness, loneliness, concern, anxiety, distraction, worry, and other emotions that could put you in a depressed state of being, and it may hurt like fuck, but tha…
/r/seduction24/10/16 04:23 PM
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Lots of times. Turn it into a joke, compliment, cordially bid them adieu. No biggie.
/r/seduction12/10/16 11:34 PM
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Frankly I think this is all absolutely horrible advice. The first bit sounds like niceguy behavior, which is to be avoided. The second bit could work with certain women, but I've dated plenty of women who are way younger/less mature than me and while they may have daddy fetishes, none of them actually wanted me to act like their fucking dad. Women like dating older for 3 reasons: money, fetish/attention/crazy, or maturity. If a chick is going to date an older dude then she wants one of those thi…
/r/seduction11/10/16 07:02 PM
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Focus on common interests. If you can't think of any, seriously consider some things that you have always wanted to try or that perhaps you would be willing to take the lead on by starting something in your community. I'd start with things focused around outdoors and exercise or things you already do as hobbies. There are clubs and meetup.com groups for nearly everything and you can start one if you aren't satisfied with what's already out there. Depending on your area things like biking, hiking…
/r/seduction11/10/16 06:48 PM
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You try, realize that it's really awkward because it feels all wrong, then stop trying, go back to enjoying life, and let it sink in for a while. It makes no sense. You pose the question above. Then you go back to trying a bit more and it feels less awkward. Then you repeat this process. Over time it becomes second nature and you are no longer trying. It's called practice. But along the way, since this is all about real human beings with real human emotions, you keep a lot of things in the back …
/r/seduction07/10/16 08:18 PM
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Listen to droid. Also, be decisive, don't give a fuck what happens, and be there to have fun.
/r/seduction07/10/16 07:29 PM
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Lots of great points. But since we are picking people's shit apart here, I'm going to pick your shit apart for a second: This is redundant. She KNOWS you think she's cute. She has tons of guys who think she's attractive hitting on her all freaking day. You're not telling her something she doesn't know. IMO...It doesn't matter. This goes against so much game it's crazy. This shit gets thrown around way too much here. Let me make a few points: 1) Inner game. I talk to hot women all the time. Why? …
/r/seduction07/10/16 03:11 PM
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This is a great visual. Thanks for sharing. I would like to point out however that it doesn't necessarily apply for a one-time interaction, hookup, one-night-stand, etc. It can often even be a bad thing. Within a few hours, kino gets the point across way better. On the other hand, if you are looking to just get a girl's number (maybe she's rushing out the door) or to start an LTR or some sort of long-game and you want to start off on the right foot, then of course this applies. This will keep yo…
/r/seduction07/10/16 02:25 PM
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I'm weak at this so I've been going out and just observing a lot. Here's what I've seen: I just dance for me. Just having fun. This means I have space around me to dance. Women/groups of women see that and like it, so they gravitate toward me pretty often. Creeps will flock all around women and just start grinding all over them and they immediately get hard rejected (unless the girl is just super wasted). Be the guy out having fun, good physical posture, looking around, smiling, etc. and women w…
/r/seduction30/09/16 06:12 PM
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I've used this same line and had terrible results. I still stand by having a solid profile (handsome, good photos, unique wording, etc) as being key. Glad OP had great results! Fist bump.
/r/seduction26/09/16 11:09 PM
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Then you're gonna have a bad time.
/r/seduction20/09/16 07:59 PM
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There's a very important detail that you seem to have left out here: What are you trying to achieve? LTR? FWB? ONS? Massive squirting scat-fetish orgy? If you are hardwired to dive into relationship mode and you like that about yourself and you want an LTR then I think you might want to keep doing what you're doing, but just tweak it a little. Read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and break out of your comfort zone and do some first-date physical escalation and start k-closing. That's it. Then again, if y…
/r/seduction16/09/16 04:31 PM
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Is that supposed to say "Loses"?
/r/seduction30/07/16 05:53 PM
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Dude. He's not talking about how our brains develop as individuals. He's talking about how we evolved over the course of millions of years into modern day humans. He is definitely talking out of his ass though. Fight or flight mechanisms developed long before anything relating to sex because sex requires a more complex organism. Nevertheless, for the sake of pickup it's definitely good to think of our sexuality as being more powerful than our fear mechanisms.
/r/seduction21/07/16 09:58 PM
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If you are reading into it at all then you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction24/06/16 10:09 PM
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I pull this test on every girl I get with. I also keep track of how often they actually put in effort to find out who I am as a person. Two great shit filters.
/r/seduction24/06/16 09:25 PM
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im 34 and sorry mate, but everything you said regarding relationships and game in your 30s is just plain false. There's a lot of good advice here about finances and health and ambition, but that stuff almost belongs in another sub. I hope people take your multiple disclaimers about "I'm just saying what I see" very seriously because I see things WAY differently. Alpha males will always be competition, leagues stay intact, and game stays relevant. Maybe I should start a blog...
/r/seduction23/06/16 03:39 AM
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I hope this reaches top comment.
/r/seduction22/06/16 04:43 PM
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the women I know think I am boring and undesirable. Change the women you know then. (Of course you won't do that because it's below you).
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:43 PM
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You and OP should date each other. You are both making things up, making broad assumptions about how others view you, and putting words in people's mouths to fit your own anti-growth mindsets. That is the only thing confusing about this thread.
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:40 PM
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I dont have any value to them Who is them? A broad generalization. Very typical of someone with your set mindset. I'm betting that at some point in time there have been women in your general surroundings who valued you. They probably weren't up to your unrealistic standards. What we are trying to get you to do is live up to the standards you have set for yourself. You refuse to do so.
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:34 PM
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You are way off base here.
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:26 PM
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You need a professional therapist, not /r/foreveralone or /r/seduction
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:23 PM
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I would like to point out a simple concept: environmental changes. Any time there is a change to the environment you are open for an opportunity to make a connection with the people around you. It's a natural part of psychology. Meanwhile, creating a change in the environment yourself is a psychologically unnatural way to make a connection, but it can be very effective when done appropriately. How does this apply? Her sitting down was a natural opportunity to open. The fire alarm was a natural o…
/r/seduction22/06/16 12:00 AM
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I agree that oversimplifying (making things too black and white) is not only a bad habit to create, but also a great way to drive yourself crazy with this. People are too dynamic for your statement to be a hard fast rule to live by, but as a generalization used to help beginners I think it's accurate enough to be a helpful guideline.
/r/seduction21/06/16 11:43 PM
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You are interpreting every reply thus far completely wrong. I am reading none of this in any of the replies. No one is berating you at all. It's as if you are speaking another language. You are only hearing what you are telling yourself. This is a major sign of self-esteem issues and depression. Explore that, man. Get some help.
/r/seduction21/06/16 10:46 PM
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It is a great game. After they break I sometimes put on a little grin and shoot a quick glance at them right at the last second before they pass by me. More often than not I catch them trying to grab a quick glance back at me as well, which is kind of a proof of concept.
/r/seduction21/06/16 07:05 PM
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All I have to do is put on a sports coat and I immediately turn heads. It's ridiculous but nice to know.
/r/seduction21/06/16 06:59 PM
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Almost all my female friends do this. We are in our 30s. Yes, it's ridiculous. If you can't handle it then you aren't ready to get laid in the modern world IMO.
/r/seduction21/06/16 06:41 PM
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You are taking WAY too long to ask them out. If you chat with a girl for 5 weeks and don't make a move she will think you just want to be friends.
/r/seduction06/06/16 06:30 PM
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I am literally sarging with an Australian guy right now (I'm American; we are in the states; I'm taking a shit). We met a group of Australian girls. We also met American girls. They are all just as receptive to him as they are to me. Don't really know what else to say. It doesn't matter once you've passed the opener.
/r/seduction05/06/16 01:54 AM
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Caring what total strangers think while going for your goals is a sure fire way to fail at your goals.
/r/seduction05/06/16 01:50 AM
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He sounds like a physically attractive guy with little/no game to me. How do I know? I was that guy 10 years ago.
/r/seduction03/06/16 05:44 PM
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Nice, thanks for the reply!
/r/seduction02/06/16 09:22 PM
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Ask 99% of artists and musicians how much their hobby means to them and they'll look at you like you are crazy. Even though art may not be their career, it's also not just a hobby to them. It's who they are. It is their "thing". In other words, yes. A hobby is fine, but only YOU can decide if you can be happy doing it as a hobby rather than professionally and only YOU can decide if it's something that helps you not give a fuck.
/r/seduction01/06/16 08:35 PM
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I just asked for similar advice on another thread so I am certainly no expert, but I recently shifted to an immediate polarization tactic. I say something like "hey so and so, you seem cool. Im not really into chit chat on here but I'd like meet up for a drink. You should send me your number and I'll set it up." Since I started skipping the opener I've received more numbers (and even been complimented on how bold I am) but I still get flaked on way too often, even after a date has been set.
/r/seduction01/06/16 08:23 PM
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I think the question has been answered well already and I agree with the top posts. But I would like to know your tactics for lining up Tinder dates. I've got plenty of matches but I'm very weak in the replies/flake department. If they don't flake I'm golden, but getting responses and setting up dates has been a real challenge for some reason.
/r/seduction01/06/16 08:02 PM
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I personally agree with the quote 100%. But if it proves difficult for you to quickly internalize this concept to the point that it is second nature, it's probably more productive to just assume attraction.
/r/seduction01/06/16 07:52 PM
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Never once in my life has a haircut been a positive experience. Good read though.
/r/seduction01/06/16 06:55 PM
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Go swimming.
/r/seduction27/05/16 07:53 PM
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This could not be more true. I've seen some dudes who fail miserably IRL but slay women on Tinder. I've also lived my own experience where I slay IRL and fail miserably on Tinder (1:50 match ratio?). The real difference is in the pics. Most of the guys I know who kill it have professional or semi-professional photos featuring the following: nice coloring, focus, balance things that make them look interesting/smart, like books, guitars, artwork, tourist attractions, etc. a shot in a suit/nice clo…
/r/seduction27/05/16 07:49 PM
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Meanwhile, I'm going bald (and happy that I'll never look back embarrassingly at my dated hairstyle).
/r/seduction26/05/16 09:15 PM
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But when is that? When is the moment when she realizes the sexual tension is that high? That moment could be weeks from the initial opener. Yes, this is great advice for when you're out sarging at bars and sexual advances are expected, but most pickup situations are NOT appropriate for pushing sexual intent immediately. At least not to the point that she feels the need to tell you to back off because she has a boyfriend. I guess my point is that too much pickup advice applies to club/party situa…
/r/seduction24/05/16 03:04 PM
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I have done this routine almost every time I've gotten a number: Very briefly open a girl and make conversation. Then I wait for a moment when I have her full attention and say: "You know, you're pretty cute. Do you have a boyfriend or what?" I then smile mischievously. About 95% of them blush; they always pause and smile and say something (doesnt matter what) which leads the conversation further. This is a huge moment to look for facial IOIs. If she says no, I ask "do you want one?" And then it…
/r/seduction23/05/16 02:33 PM
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I am what many would call a "natural" in that most of my success has coincided with the exact techniques that Models teaches. Like any book, it's not for everyone, but it is a must read in my opinion. Of all the books I've read so far, I would say that it offers the best advice when it comes to self improvement, inner game, and creating relationships quickly with genuine people. On the other hand, there are other books and blogs that offer better advice when it comes to one night stands with shi…
/r/seduction22/05/16 07:39 PM
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Good FR and good tactics all around. Concise and to the point. My only question would be the request for Spanish lessons. If you hadn't made the comment about trading her for beer then it could have been misread by her, but the beer thing made it work. Nice job.
/r/seduction22/05/16 12:52 AM
7

This is such a circle jerk. I appreciate OP's genuine honesty, but there have NEVER been more opportunities to meet women of depth than there are right this very second. No sympathy here. They are literally everywhere.
/r/seduction21/05/16 02:16 AM
1

If no one participated then either you aren't as good as you should be, you're a jerk, or you need to keep looking for bandmates. There are easy fixes for all of this.
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:19 PM
1

This sub seriously needs to stop telling people that confidence is so important. Practice is what's important. Confidence is not required to talk, listen, learn a skill, travel, groom yourself, or most of the other things that lead to getting chicks. Confidence is the result of doing these things...not the catalyst to making things happen. .
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:07 PM
1

Yes, naturally extroverted people tend to succeed more in relationships but it's because they happen to have the gift of gab. They listen just as much as they talk. You can learn the gift of gab like anything else. It just takes practice (and drugs and alcohol help). Also, being the entertainer is a great way to get friendzoned. Showing that you value people goes further faster when it comes to making deep connections. You only need to be entertaining every once and a while for most people to co…
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:03 PM
0

First off, get over the idea that being alone makes you a loser or that anyone cares. You are making that bullshit up. No one cares. You should MAKE them care. Damn near every time I open a set I'm alone. People never complain. Instead they compliment me on my confidence and willingness to go out solo. Women fucking eat it up and say it's boss all the time. If this seems troubling, create a back story for everything you do. Yes, you might be lonely. Yes, it might be painful or seem embarrassing,…
/r/seduction16/05/16 08:51 PM
1

I'm betting your numbers are just low. Every woman has different interests at different times. There is a continuum of what women want, and where a woman stands within this continuum varies constantly. Mixing charm, kino, push, and a genuine interest in a woman's personality is an excellent recipe for closing with a small portion of the women you meet, so it's just a numbers game after that. You are simply generalizing too much within the scope of a very dynamic playing field.
/r/seduction15/05/16 09:11 PM
1

Just a tip...Google how to create better Tinder profile pics. I know a scrawny balding dude with glasses and a generally unattractive facial structure who absolutely slays on Tinder because his profile pics contain multiple points from the following: Wearing a suit, looking away from the camera, not smiling, sitting next to a dog/animal and art/books/instruments. His main pic contains all of them. I watched him get 17 matches in a row one day.
/r/seduction14/05/16 08:24 PM
1

I can confirm that A) this is all true and B) other users are right about her absolutely wanting to fuck you if she puts in this much effort. How do I know? I am one of the guy friends who gives out texting advice to a large group of hot women. I am privy to the group texts and OP nailed it. Two problems though... not all women do this (because not all women care this much) and also you don't know which type of woman she is. She may be sweating it or she may not like you at all and is putting yo…
/r/seduction12/05/16 08:37 PM
1

You can't fake her reaction to his kclose attempts.
/r/seduction08/04/16 02:19 PM
1

Your female friends need practice haha
/r/seduction02/04/16 03:48 PM
2

Edit: thought you were a chick, sorry. Keeping the post. It's not rare at all. Have you even been reading these posts? Matter if fact, if we actually approached every woman we were interested in we wouldn't have time for anything other than going on dates. Confident men everywhere constantly pass up talking to women because they are simply too busy for another interaction/relationship/rejection. Just another reason why it's stupid for women to sit back and wait. The guys you want literally don't…
/r/seduction02/04/16 03:46 PM
0

If this is the kind of dry I'm thinking (sarcastic, dark, pessimistic, etc) then it's because you like damaged goods. You like damaged goods because you are insecure and don't want to date someone with confidence. Damaged goods use humor and attitude to cover up their own insecurities and thus they are easy to spot. Just my immediate thoughts. Cheers
/r/seduction06/12/15 03:50 AM
1

Movie theater is one of the worst ideas I can think of actually.
/r/seduction06/12/15 03:45 AM
1

Get used to the bitchiness and learn to deflect it without flinching. She feels empowered by flaking on you and being a bitch. Let her have it. She has a lot of growing up to do and you don't want to be there during that phase. Next time don't even begin to fight it. Just walk away and unmatch her without a word.
/r/seduction06/12/15 03:43 AM
11

DUUUUUDE if you're not married by 30 then definitely don't cave settle then. I'm almost 34 and I've been dating 24 and 25 year olds consistently for the past ten years. Everything they say about your 30's is true! And other people have said what it means quite beautifully.
/r/seduction21/10/15 12:57 PM
6

I'm about to sound like a crazy sexist redpill wacko but I swear I'm not. These are truths from my long life of dating and having tons of female friends ( this is general to the population of course, but most will have at least one trait from my experience ): Women cheat. Women use men all the time. Women have no spine and they justify it with " sex roles". Women are selfish and expect everyone in their world to be okay with that. Women won't chase you unless you are out of their league or they …
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:01 PM
2

I read the opening paragraph five times and it still didn't make grammatical sense. Pronouns exist...use them. I understood the point, but you may want to step up your writing skills if you plan on releasing a book (or prepare to pay out the nose on editing). As far as the content goes, I really couldn't get past the grammar constantly tripping me up so I skimmed. It's pickup 101 and it's already been said a million times on other blogs. Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I figure you're the type…
/r/seduction29/06/15 03:38 AM
3

My take on this: As soon as you throw sex completely out of the picture your true intentions shine through. If you have no interest in the person you're talking to, whether it be an HB10 or a wrinkled old woman, then you're just a fucking twat who doesn't deserve any of the benefits of this lifestyle. And you probably aren't getting many of the benefits anyway because the more genuine you are the more people take an interest in you.
/r/seduction29/05/15 06:55 AM
3

For your own good you should do whatever you can to stop thinking that the grass will be greener somewhere else. College will be different, but its still up to you to be the most attractive person you can be. It never changes. This is a fact of life whether it comes to women or jobs or friends.
/r/seduction04/05/15 08:56 PM
5

Staying busy. If I'm busy with all the important badass shit I'm doing in my life, then meeting a woman is just a little bonus to the day. It's like walking by a bowl of M&Ms at a party and just grabbing a few and continuing on my way. This is the type of lifestyle that keeps women interested (at least in regard to excitement). On the contrary, if meeting THIS WOMAN RIGHT HERE is the biggest part of a person's day, that person is definitely going to get nervous about it.
/r/seduction01/05/15 01:27 AM
-2

Oh yeah, totally. Lets reinforce the idea that women are anything more than normal human beings by suggesting they have magic powers.
/r/seduction08/02/15 09:49 AM
8

That's some Red-pill conspiracy bullshit right there. I feel sorry for anyone who believes this.
/r/seduction08/02/15 09:45 AM
28

A few reasons why I used to be afraid of women, all having to do with human observation (or a lack thereof): Bearing witness to the cruelty of my classmates as a child. Children can be extremely cruel to one another (often without realizing it), and its hard to forget playground dynamics as you grow into a young adult. It can make romance seem harder than it should be since we are very impressionable as children. Bearing witness to the cruelty of the small percentage of adults who simply never g…
/r/seduction08/02/15 09:43 AM
0

Then tease her about it after you fuck her. That's what I'd do anyway.
/r/seduction17/11/14 10:50 PM
2

Go out an meet like 5 other chicks in the meantime and then, right before you meet up with her, ask yourself how many fucks you give. You'll have your answer.
/r/seduction17/11/14 10:49 PM
4

I agree wholeheartedly. I do this even with women who I haven't spoken to in months or even years. Send 'em something every now and then just to keep the communication open. My favorite is seeing them around (like if you have mutual friends), taking a photo with them, then sharing it via text a week or two later. This is great with the really busy, high-value chicks.
/r/seduction07/11/14 08:29 PM
3

As someone who graduated almost ten years ago, I find I have the most success when I roll up in an unmarked van and offer to sell them speakers for real cheap.
/r/seduction27/10/14 04:29 PM
2

It's so hard to give good advice. We have no idea what you look like or what the girls look like or what you're into or what your personality is like...etc, etc. All are key, and very subtle factors. But, consider this blanket advice: By definition, going quantity over quality means you can't pick your battles wisely. It's like casting a net vs. fishing with a particular bait: you don't get to choose what you catch with a net. If I were to just walk down the street and try to fuck every attracti…
/r/seduction27/10/14 03:51 PM
2

How do you not get that? If I want a respectful, passionate funny, fun, beautiful woman, I have to also be respectful, passionate, funny, fun, and handsome man.
/r/seduction16/10/14 04:50 PM
1

If it's a random chick in a public place I wait until she asks for my name. By then I've flirted, built report, and have obviously piqued her interest. It's better to stay mysterious as long as possible. If it's at a party where we know mutual people, the first thing I do is introduce myself to every single person I see and then introduce them to each other. This is my preferred situation because it's the easiest validation you will ever get. The only reason I would ever delay in this situation …
/r/seduction15/10/14 08:15 PM
1

Moving quickly. By that I mean jumping in front of the other guys and approaching as soon as possible, making my intentions very clear, immediately showing her what it would be like to be my girlfriend, and always thinking about the next step (next bar, the close, date, whatever).
/r/seduction06/10/14 08:19 PM
1

This definitely happens to me after I break up with a woman I really liked, but that's it. After two people get really good at having hot, kinky, passionate sex, strange pussy just can't compete.
/r/seduction06/10/14 07:34 PM
6

There are no boring people. But there are lots of people I currently share no interests with.
/r/seduction30/09/14 12:13 AM
1

Splitting hairs, IMO.
/r/seduction21/09/14 07:31 PM
3

Should be top comment.
/r/seduction16/09/14 07:46 PM
3

1) Women's looks deteriorate quicker for both physical reasons and social reasons 2) Hot chicks get grabbed up quick, so the longer you wait, the worse your options are. 3) Older dudes are willing to put up with less hot girl bullshit.
/r/seduction16/09/14 07:43 PM
3

You need to question whether or not this is actually a bad thing. This isn't a relationship forum...it's a pickup and self-improvement forum. You're going to get advice that leans toward "love 'em and leave 'em" here, but that may not be the best answer in your situation. If you want to pursue and have sex with lots and lots of women then falling for them is certainly not the best thing to do. If, on the other hand, you want to care about the people you meet with the possibility of long-term rel…
/r/seduction16/09/14 01:55 PM
6

He didn't say "I had to let them go, so I told them all to go fuck themselves."
/r/seduction15/09/14 01:09 PM
6

That amazing motherfucker.
/r/seduction09/09/14 11:42 PM
1

Different schools of thought here. I'm with you. I always bring it up just to fuck with them a little.
/r/seduction09/09/14 11:41 PM
5

The hottest women I've dated were the ones where I made the move quickly and boldly. I've opened by just saying "Wow, you're cute" and then immediately initiating kino and questions to get conversation started. It works best in a situation where you've already been qualified (mutual friends, she just saw you do something badass, etc.). I've done some pretty ridiculous things that I still laugh about to this day, but if it works it works. Ask for her number really early into the conversation and …
/r/seduction09/09/14 11:34 PM
1

I've found that hot woman rarely know how to react to the god honest truth. As soon as they meet a guy who treats them as an equal or who lets them know exactly what's up in the relationship, they start reading into it too much and it blows some sort of fuse. It causes all sorts of jealousy and drama to happen, and then they crazy themselves right out of the picture. It sucks, but it's great at the same time.
/r/seduction09/09/14 11:25 PM
2

The guy is looking for science, not butthurt conspiracy theories.
/r/seduction08/09/14 03:25 PM
2

I feel like text has got to be the weakest part of everyone's game, so don't feel bad.
/r/seduction04/09/14 04:39 PM
10

Many people think withholding information is just as fucked up as lying to someone. What do you suggest we do when the girl asks what's up?
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:16 PM
13

This is great advice if you want to end up being called a player, user, womanizer, asshole, etc.
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:15 PM
11

That guy made me uncomfortable.
/r/seduction02/09/14 09:37 PM
2

Well stop being fat, gross, and nerdy then.
/r/seduction02/09/14 05:17 PM
1

It's a different kind of messaging though. OKC and the others are email. Tinder is SMS. Nine messages is barely enough for a back and forth via SMS, not by design by by culture.
/r/seduction02/09/14 05:15 PM
1

It's good advice though.
/r/seduction02/09/14 05:13 PM
1

Tinder is all about looks and first impressions. Don't be too hard on yourself. We're not all models. It's nice to know how you fare in the face-value department, bu if you approached as many women as you swiped on Tinder then that would really be telling.
/r/seduction02/09/14 05:10 PM
2

Do many "little" things vs. one "big" thing if possible. There's psychology behind it, but the long and short of it is that experiences bring people closer together despite the quality of those experiences. For example, a date that starts somewhere neutral, then taking a walk through the park, and then getting iced cream is better than going to dinner (if you are aiming to build a connection). It's also cheap as fuck.
/r/seduction02/09/14 05:02 PM
2

Lots of good advice here already. Instead of eye contact being the goal, go for smiles. Hold a normal face, then as soon as they look at you, give a casually seductive smile. Just a subtle "hey, whats up?" acknowledgement kind of thing. See how many you can get back.
/r/seduction29/08/14 03:07 AM
1

The only IOI's that matter come after the open and right before you close!!!
/r/seduction29/08/14 03:05 AM
1

Great advice! Always look it it from the other person's perspective.
/r/seduction29/08/14 03:03 AM
3

It's always a risk worth taking as long as you've done your homework. Totally. Just go for it.
/r/seduction28/08/14 01:37 PM
4

Whenever I feel like it. Based on kino, IOI's, red flags, etc., I know whether or not she's going to turn away. I've never gone for it and been cold turned down in 32 years because I know what to look for. As far as the actual timing goes goes, that first kiss is a more communicating sexual interest than anything else, so there's always a good time to do it, just like telling a joke, changing the subject, or asking for the bill. If you have avoided putting her up on a pedestal then it should flo…
/r/seduction28/08/14 01:27 PM
1

If average girls want shred then I guess HB10's want swol.
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:59 PM
-5

Seriously. College is the easiest of all opportunities to get laid, then four or five years later the uphill battle begins.
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:21 PM
3

Well, yeah. Don't do that shit. Don't fucking lead them on anymore. If someone did it to you you'd hate it. That's the type of shit that insecure chicks do to guys because they can't stand to be alone. It's the type of shit that brings guys like us to forums like this in the first place. If they don't know what your intentions are then you aren't striving for shit. Quit kidding yourself. Pity party for the players over here...they feel guilty.
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:49 AM
-1

Now you know what it feels like to be a hot chick.
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:41 AM
3

1) "Hey, someone's gotta drive your drunk ass home tonight!" etc. 2) With this one I'd play it cool. Ignore the shit out of her and hit on her friends. Once she starts fighting for your attention, let her do all the talking and maintain a frame and eye contact that shows that she isn't at the top of your list: smile, nod, change the subject, work the room, etc. Then, when the moment's right, shift all your attention on her 100% and try to keep her focused on you. Move quickly and be direct. Heav…
/r/seduction23/08/14 08:04 AM
8

It, of course, depends on the girl, but I gained a fuck buddy once after she flaked on me. She kept saying she was on her way, on her way, etc, etc. It was all via text, so eventually I texted her something like this: "Listen, it was cool meeting you, but I just don't work well with flakes...just not my type. You're a cool chick though, so just keep being you. No hard feelings here. Call me if you're ever serious about meeting up." She apologized and admitted that she's a flaky girl, and I never…
/r/seduction23/08/14 07:54 AM
-1

Another bullshit guideline, but funny. Work above these games and you'll be much happier.
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:59 PM
1

If you look at this logically though, we aren't that dumb. Any self-respecting person would just come clean and say "I'm not really interested in you, but I'm flattered" instead of blatantly lying and making the situation awkward. Believe it or not, self-respecting women do exist in the world and they understand this concept. I've had many women give it to me straight and they tend to become some of my best friends. On the same token, these "rules" are all horse shit. You have to work above them…
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:57 PM
1

Did you watch the video?
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:36 PM
2

No: if someone sets a date and time, go for it. At some point you have to actually be a human being and take a risk. If we all followed the "rules" of dating then no one would every get laid. Having to be "in control" all the time is kind of a sign of insecurity anyway.
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:23 PM
1

Also be wary of the "Raincheck?" response. If a chick asks for a raincheck then you should go ahead and assume it's a no. I don't know why they do it. When you play those games you're just asking to get played back.
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:20 PM
4

Thanks to the Brad Pitt Rule, Bill ended up banging every girl in town so Sandra moved to Portland to start a new life.
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:07 PM
6

If you do not go after what you want, James, you will never have it.
/r/seduction20/08/14 01:38 PM
1

I find this helpful because I sink most of my money into life and goals and can't go out as often as I'd like to. Meeting women is a high priority, but not my only goal. That's a principal of inner game. While this exercise is obviously more motivational psychology than anything, I think that it's important to "train in the off-season" so to speak, and this is a great way to do that.
/r/seduction20/08/14 01:46 AM
12

I can tell you from experience that this is not true. Not ugly maybe, but good looking? Nah. People consider me a natural who is not very attractive. I'm an overweight white guy who has never had cool hair or fashion sense, and women consistently tell me that I look better in person than in photos. My hair's falling out and I've never been in shape my entire life. I do cool shit and I know how to talk. That's it. My main wing is the same way. We're both really good at setting up our friends with…
/r/seduction19/08/14 03:03 PM
1

Smile first. She'll smile back.
/r/seduction19/08/14 02:07 PM
2

No such thing. If she keeps staring just smile and approach and ask her if she wants to have a staring contest.
/r/seduction19/08/14 02:06 PM
1

I can see your point. I've marketed bands this way in the past (click, click, click all fucking day long) and it's time consuming as hell for limited ROI.
/r/seduction18/08/14 03:11 PM
1

I was trying to think of why I've never done this type of thing on a seduction level even though I've done it lots of times to promote bands. I've lived in or near my home town my entire life and even though there are like 800k people here, it's a really small world. I suppose I don't want a bad reputation because women here are generally well-educated and connected compared to most places. I see my exes constantly. As badass as I think this is, I don't think I could do it unless I had a real ex…
/r/seduction18/08/14 03:04 PM
1

You can save anything to your account with the reddit enhancement suite if you're interested.
/r/seduction18/08/14 02:58 PM
1

You seem like the type of guy that we all end up reading about one day in Life magazine because you just did all the shit that nobody else was willing to do. Nice work.
/r/seduction18/08/14 02:54 PM
1

I've got news for you that probably no one else here will tell you: you are completely right...it makes no fucking sense. You are changing yourself to become what other people want despite everything you've read here. It's the catch 22 of the seduction community and it leaves any intelligent person with severe cognitive dissonance. Even worse is the fact that "people" is a fallacy. Everyone is different and everyone wants different things. It's hard being aware of your own falsehoods, but that's…
/r/seduction14/08/14 07:36 PM
1

Inner game. Inner game. Inner game. The difference between pickup up a woman for one night and picking up a woman for 40 years is that you both have to be a total fucking badasses in order to make it last. You both have to have high self-esteem, a high regard for other people, a high-level of honesty, careers, skills, discipline, understanding, patience, compassion, more patience, a little more patience (etc.) if you're going to last for a long time. You don't have to have any of that for a one-…
/r/seduction09/08/14 01:57 PM
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I 100% agree with juniorsly, but I'd like to add my own perspective. The most difficult part of this should be capturing their interest in the first place. Once I've managed to get enough of a beautiful woman's attention/attraction to end up naked with them, the hard work should essentially be over. After that it's just a matter of being myself, staying cool, staying fun, and not doing anything stupid to make them unattracted, because, you see, I was being myself the whole time. This is pretty m…
/r/seduction05/08/14 07:20 PM
3

I always take it as a flattering combination of "I'm thinking of you" mixed with "I need attention". My SO's do that a lot.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:51 PM
1

I shit test girls constantly because I need a filter too. It's more of a sense of humor test though to be honest. But if it's a potential LTR? You bet your ass I run them through the ringer: camping, tax prep, pumpkin carving...you name it.
/r/seduction23/07/14 09:41 PM
12

Don't worry about coming on too strong. You will find your real-life, person-to-person communication is very effective once you just go for it. That's where you make your good impressions. Post college, meeting people is all about shared interests, mutual friends, and going to events. Approach everything like an opportunity and be prepared to put yourself in a lot of unfamiliar situations. As far as online dating is concerned, there is a right and a wrong way to go about it. Many people have wri…
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:23 PM
6

Don't worry so much about your looks. Do worry about what you are communicating without realizing it. Practice these if you think they apply: Be less animated Move gracefully and with poise Speak softer, slower, and at a relaxed, natural tone (lower maybe?) Speak and share less. You don't need to remark on everything. Smiling is great, but your resting face should be mouth closed with a very slight grin. This literally relaxes the muscles and makes you look like you don't have a care in the worl…
/r/seduction20/07/14 08:21 PM
2

I too often find myself connecting with the craziest bitch on the block. Awesome story OP.
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:59 PM
3

No, because men are obviously the creepy, predatory sex. /s
/r/seduction09/07/14 06:46 PM
2

Haha, for hot women that's kind of the situation already. Yes, they get hit on all the time. Yes, it's annoying. Yes, they might tell you to fuck off. But they'll do the same thing in the club if they're having one of those kinds of nights. That's why we practice and work on inner game. Let them choose us. That having been said, I totally get what you're saying. If a person looks like they're all business then you probably shouldn't bother them. It's just common courtesy. But most guys are so sc…
/r/seduction20/06/14 03:18 PM
5

That's just super awkward. Go ask her out.
/r/seduction20/06/14 03:01 PM
1

Inner game is not something you turn on and off. It's more like a badass scar you carry throughout life.
/r/seduction19/06/14 04:44 PM
5

Only misleading salespeople are hated.
/r/seduction09/06/14 05:03 PM
2

The proof is in the pudding. I have an opinion as to which lands higher-quality lays and leads to an overall higher quality of life, but who cares if the other is lame or not? Part of inner game is understanding that you will never please 100% of people. Your "lame" is definitely someone else's "cool".
/r/seduction09/06/14 05:01 PM
0

KO
/r/seduction04/06/14 04:12 PM
5

A need to constantly be talking is a sign of insecurity...not confidence.
/r/seduction04/06/14 03:32 PM
1

I appreciate the fact that I'm sitting next to a very rare creature indeed.
/r/seduction04/06/14 03:31 PM
6

I'm trying to figure out which part of this comment is so offensive... Is it the accusation that we're all lying scoundrels, or is it the assumption that we aren't attractive enough to get women without trickery? Perhaps it's that you actually have the audacity to post that here at all... I'm sorry you don't understand this stuff. It's just over some people's heads. We're here for you though, man.
/r/seduction04/06/14 02:35 PM
1

I rarely make it the first thing I say, but I always say it as a qualifier soon into the conversation. For example I'll approach and strike conversation. I'll joke around and tease her, and when she teases me back I'll say something like "I'll let that one slide 'cause you're pretty cute." The idea is that she is cute enough for me...not the other way around. Saying it as an opener is fine, but it's an easy line unless it seems genuine. I'll use it if it's all I've got, but cute girls get that a…
/r/seduction03/06/14 03:04 PM
28

If I'm attracted to her I lock. If I'm not, I look away as to not lead her on. If I'm just trying to prove that she has a chance with me I'll try to lock until she looks away. If I'm trying to get her attention, I'll give her a bit more smile (I always try to keep a basic relaxed smile going on anyway). My ultimate goal is to see her break eye contact and then immediately come back for more to see if I'm still looking. I love seeing them get all shy when it happens. I do this with men too, but u…
/r/seduction02/06/14 06:03 PM
1

I disagree wholeheartedly. The difference between these two men is not in what they want, but what they lack. The beta guy lacks the ability to pick up women, while the alpha guy lacks a woman worth keeping! Just because I'm good at meeting women does not mean I'm avoiding relationships! What happens when a player decides to settle down? Does he turn into a cowering pile of jello and cross his fingers? Fuck no. He just gets more picky.
/r/seduction29/05/14 05:43 PM
5

As with so much in life, it's not about the quality of the product. It's how you use it. Edit: And what does this have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction29/05/14 05:06 PM
1

I debated posting this, but the story seems relevant enough. Elliot Rogers clearly had a mental illness, but this stuff can be frustrating at times. It makes me wonder what would have been had be been on a self-help based forum like /r/seduction rather than anti-PUA forums. Oh well. If anyone ever feels stressed, this is a great place to talk and get constructive help. If anyone's ever feeling really stressed...please seek some professional help. It's nothing to be ashamed of and there's only so…
/r/seduction27/05/14 08:29 PM
2

From my experience, the people who knock /r/seduction typically have not spent any time here or are too closed-minded to bother with. It's a shame, but not unusual in life.
/r/seduction27/05/14 06:01 PM
3

Basic seduction techniques work on men just as well as women. Take an interest in people and make some friends!
/r/seduction27/05/14 05:52 PM
1

As far as the escalating goes, I know that for me it's never going to work right unless I've set up the situation to work. This is partially because of my own personal inner-workings, but also because sometimes things just get in the way fun and comfort (on both of our parts). Things that get in the way could be a lack of money, a messy roommate, having to get up for work early, not looking my best, or not having a plan on what to do once I get her back to my house. Once I've removed all the obs…
/r/seduction22/05/14 07:57 PM
2

I like this chick a hell of a lot, but she is always the first to text me. She's always the one with nothing to do so she always wants to hang out. She's always the one asking if I miss her. It comes across as very needy sometimes, so I get why it's such a turn-off when we do it to women. It's actually been a problem because she's all worried that I'm not feeling it, but the reality of it is that I like my work, friends, and hobbies just as much as I like her, and I compartmentalize things bette…
/r/seduction22/05/14 06:11 PM
1

Only when the girl is annoying to be around, which, unfortunately, is most of the time when it comes to hot girls.
/r/seduction15/05/14 04:36 PM
2

Dude. I'm in IT. I've never gotten even the slightest negativity about it. Some girls actually say something like "you seem too cool to be an IT guy". My coworkers say the same thing. It's personality above all else. Let your passions define you. Not your job title. Edit: And stop being so butt-hurt. If you really need a comeback, say you're a pirate.
/r/seduction14/05/14 08:03 PM
1

Kudos on your life. No seddit-related info to add, but I will give you this tidbit: A buddy of mine is a 42 year old introvert and he gets more women than anyone I know. Since I've been hanging out with him over the past 6 or 7 years, he's been with women half his age and women older than he is. He's not successful by any means (he typically works in kitchens for next to nothing), and he doesn't do anything special to take care of himself or wear clothes that would even slightly resemble anythin…
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:36 AM
0

There isn't much to go on here, but it sounds like you haven't experienced much life. Have you spent time with people? Like, have you been stuck in the same room as someone you don't like for a long time? Have you gotten drunk with strangers? Did you get into mischief as a child? Have you spoken with a homeless person? Have you observed people in an effort to understand their behavior? You should always be doing this if you want to be good with people and lead a full life. Studying makes you sma…
/r/seduction17/04/14 02:38 PM
1

Being able to gracefully say goodbye to people you care about is a reward that comes with wisdom and maturity. One of my favorite things about seddit is how much we promote maturity here (at least as far as the self-help stuff goes), so in time this stuff will all sink in an breakups will become easier. One fundamental piece of wisdom I can offer is this: Love is not about possession. It is about appreciation. --Osho I suggest you spend your next few relationships really trying to internalize an…
/r/seduction14/04/14 09:57 PM
-5

Easy there, tiger. May want to lay off the redpill. What's next, they all belong in the kitchen doing your dishes?
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:08 PM
3

You have a great point, but you're in a puckup community so people are going to use shorthand lingo the same way any community would. Get used to it.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:08 PM
0

I don't think you understand negging. It's not like we walk up and go "Hey stupid, your face looks ugly, stupid."
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:04 PM
-1

Switch the roles. If you had said that to her in that situation, what do you think her reaction would be? Right. She's flip shit, tell all her friends, and probably never talk to you again. It would be an over reaction, but that's what I would expect if I talked about raping someone on a first date. You obviously don't care, so it's whatever. She gets off easy, as most chicks would. But if you meet up with her again, make sure she understands that you thought that was fucking weird thing to say …
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:57 PM
-1

I've been offered every job I've interviewed for since I started working on this stuff. Well, except for one, where they absolutely loved me but I turned out to not be qualified.
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:10 PM
3

Likely because that takes away from their power. How redpill of you.
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:17 PM
2

I couldn't make it past the brunette who felt it necessary to keep bringing up the sexual roles thing. Oh my god. It's completely beside the point. I wanted to pull my hair out.
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:10 PM
1

The fundamental catch 22 of pickup: The only people questioning it are the ones who are incapable of understanding it.
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:06 PM
1

It's a personal scale based on overall value; not just looks. Problem solved.
/r/seduction15/03/14 12:36 AM
5

Very true. What bothers me is that the quote says "The concept of “high value” is a pedestal", which is absolutely ridiculous. This whole quote seems like hyperbole to me.
/r/seduction15/03/14 12:35 AM
1

Somewhere between 30 and 40. I'm more of a quality over quantity type of guy, so I slept with most of these women many, many times. I'm honest about it. These numbers are intimidating to most women while one actually laughed at how low the number was. She ended up being double-bag one night stand ;)
/r/seduction15/03/14 12:06 AM
4

The bad ones are.
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:59 PM
1

But she wasn't.
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:58 PM
5

Sure, but why bother? Solid game can be laid down without spending a dime. Offering to buy a girl a drink is extremely rare for me and it works fine.
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:57 PM
4

"Hi, I'm nervous. Please let me compliment you awkwardly and buy you something to prove it. Okay, now we have the sex."
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:54 PM
2

There is no way that #1 is a real girl.
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:52 PM
2

I rarely pick up girls just for the sake of picking up girls because it's just not worth it to me anymore. I've found sex to be way better with women I actually appreciate, so I tell them "I do it when I meet a cool girl and we hit it off...the way we did". If they ask how often that happens, I tell them. If this is coming up at all it's because we just met, so the future of our relationship is still completely up in the air. It could end up a FWB or a one-night-stand or a potential girlfriend. …
/r/seduction08/03/14 03:39 AM
2

If you find yourself needing to fill a void, you have more feelings for this girl than just FWB. Dating is many different things to many different people; experience making the biggest difference. You're doing the best you can, but it's time to be honest with yourself.
/r/seduction07/03/14 09:45 PM
2

Wut.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:58 PM
2

Yep. When I was still AFC I accidentally managed to bag a few totally slamming babes, and it was always because I thought I had no chance anyway and skipped straight over steps 1-3 and went for step 4. When those relationships didn't work out I'd go right back to my old ways of playing it safe and working through your ladder (and failing). I never understood the difference until one day I happened upon seddit out of pure curiosity. Man, has my life changed.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:57 PM
1

Yes, but you have to have something to offer, whether it be something tangible or just the ability to make people feel at ease with the way you breathe.
/r/seduction05/03/14 05:20 PM
4

Honesty and fairness combined with a little fun encouragement. If you're talking about starting a relationship with someone when one of you is moving away in 2 months, explain that you understand their dilemma and communicate that you would be interested in a no-commitment (FWB) relationship or simple friendship. If they say no then go meet other people. If you are talking about a last-minute-resistance scenario or where the bar is closing and you're trying to get her to go home with you, then y…
/r/seduction03/03/14 04:22 PM
1

This is the fundamental difference between how men and women communicate (generally speaking). Women value the act of communicating while men value the actual message being relayed. Think gossip vs. car talk. Great point.
/r/seduction15/02/14 12:46 AM
1

Since seduction got you here, I'll try to utilize seduction points the help you make a decision. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, because one-itis is something I've avoided like the plague, but if it's mutual and if a relationship seems to be on the table then it seems more appropriate? A key point to seduction is being fair and honest with yourself and the people around you, in my opinion. Don't ask us what's good or bad for your life. If one-itis is something you personally want to avoid, w…
/r/seduction15/02/14 12:40 AM
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This is more dom/sub kink material than seduction. Good and all, but yeah.
/r/seduction15/02/14 12:17 AM
1

Amazingly well put. This applies in many other situations as well. I find that this part is the the best takeaway: Also, women are not good at handling confrontation so they have to defer to you. Also, you are showing them from a logical perspective there is nothing to be scared of. Making a woman actually commit to a decision works out great for everyone, as they tend to enjoy just sitting in the grey area where they have all the power. If I'm being too abstract, here's an example: Women in new…
/r/seduction13/02/14 09:16 PM
11

But expect last minute resistance. Women are socially pressured to act like they don't want sex; especially the first time with a new person. It's just part of the ritual for the average chick for various reasons.
/r/seduction12/02/14 09:56 PM
1

Who needs second and third base anyway...
/r/seduction12/02/14 09:53 PM
2

Hands. Lots of hands. Did I mention hands? The key is to make her want it. Tease a little in the direction of the erotic zones. Tug at he clothes. Breathe heavily and kiss her neck and ear. Brush across her nipples and grab her ass. Bit by bit, move toward the private zones and further under her clothes. Slowly take articles of clothing off, reminding her how great sex feels. But don't actually grab or touch the naughty bits directly. Put a little delay on the moment when you'd normally go for i…
/r/seduction12/02/14 09:46 PM
103

Attempting a relationship with a total stranger is high risk for both parties because there is no foundation for the relationship. Attempting a relationship with someone you meet through mutual interests is slightly less risky because you already have something in common. Attempting a relationship with someone you meet through mutual friends is even less risky due to social approval. Attempting a relationship with someone you are actually friends with is even less risky because you know enough a…
/r/seduction03/02/14 01:29 AM
4

I feel like kind of an asshole doing this, but I posted a field report on this topic recently. The sub seemed to dig it. It may be helpful to you. I've had great results at small get-togethers where I know almost no one, and they've become my favorite seduction situations by far. The report pretty much outlines how I've done it. It's worth mentioning that I'm still seeing the girl from the report, and she still talks about the night we met all the time. She said all her friends still talk about …
/r/seduction01/02/14 10:07 PM
1

Which leads me to further believe that the bf excuse was really just that.. an excuse. Or the friends know that her boyfriend is an ass-hat and they think you'd be better.
/r/seduction01/02/14 09:58 PM
5

Girl gives a wide smile/blatantly checks me out. I approach, she is all smiles. 15-20 mins of solid conversation, she is usually laughing a lot, finding excuses to touch etc. I try to get her number and she really reluctantly says she has a bf. One girl even said "err...my bf would get mad". You should be flattered. She's interested but she is reluctant to do anything because of the boyfriend. She brings it up after flirting because what kind of an asshole just comes out of the gate saying "Oh, …
/r/seduction01/02/14 09:57 PM
1

Sometimes you have to ditch your mates and go it alone. Some people have less to work with than others. Accept these facts and go out and be the best motherfucker you can be and stop waiting for women to approach you! Also, having women present invites women. Catch 22 I know, but again, work with what you've got.
/r/seduction01/02/14 09:02 PM
1

To answer your question without reading the wall of text, yes. If I were to mention "pickup" or "the game" to 100 strangers they'd probably all give me a look of disgust, or laugh, or bring up how douchey the TV personalities are, and I would tend to agree with them. That having been said, I have been extremely successful at picking up women and impressing men based on a few basic principals of being a good, honest, fair, well rounded person who is fundamentally attractive in many ways. Because …
/r/seduction31/01/14 08:25 PM
1

Eyes, smile, go for it.
/r/seduction27/01/14 04:45 PM
2

After a brief period of flirting, go do something else. After returning, flirt a bit more and say "You're cute. Do you have a boyfriend?" Whatever her answer is, you reply with something witty proving that you are unfazed, then say "I wanna hang out sometime. Give me your number." Unlock your phone and hand it to her. Flirt a bit more. If you're ballsy, go for a kiss. Lots of kino and direct verbiage and you're golden. If she is stand-offish or denies you, play into it. Like if she has a boyfrie…
/r/seduction23/01/14 09:27 PM
2

You probably have a different definition of alpha male.
/r/seduction23/01/14 08:35 PM
1

I suppose that depends on your definition of "normal". To me, normal is what I grew up aspiring to be. A normal guy to me is confident, wise, a master of his domain, and respected by those he meets. Reality is a different story though. Statistically, normal is a meek, lazy, unsuccessful, uncultured dude-bro. Normal can be anything you want it to be, but when you figure it out, be true to it. There are many forms of communication to get a desired message across. Actions are a huge one in seductio…
/r/seduction23/01/14 08:31 PM
-2

Thank you for adding this. You said it in the title though: control. The comments in this thread are reaching into redpill territory and it's starting to scare me.
/r/seduction23/01/14 08:17 PM
2

There was actually a very interesting study submitted to /r/science the other day that backed this up. I'll see if I can find it...
/r/seduction23/01/14 08:15 PM
5

Actually, it doesn't because it's comparing apples to oranges. In the Dating Habits article, the girl was already interested due to the initial interaction. If the text interaction portrayed in the article actually happened, the guy would know 4 lines in that the girl was interested. It wouldn't matter what he did or said, she'd say yes to a date and she'd show up. I mean c'mon...that was the longest build to a date I've ever read. She's obviously into it. The text interaction from the article i…
/r/seduction22/01/14 08:58 PM
1

Red pill is scary but this post is not red pill in the least.
/r/seduction22/01/14 04:03 PM
1

Okay, how about a single bullet-point: be well-rounded.
/r/seduction22/01/14 04:03 PM
1

On paper you pretty much nailed it, but it's all about reading people and living the situation. Try imagining your sets from the perspective of the girl and see how you come across. Would you be comfortable? Would you have called you back? Would you have seen you as someone with something to offer? Being self-aware is a huge part of this. Chance is too.
/r/seduction22/01/14 04:01 PM
1

I get why this wouldn't be helpful because you have to actually live this way before it rings true. I imagine the book probably tries to explain how. Edit: Cosmo for Men
/r/seduction22/01/14 03:56 PM
1

If it was just a quick #close that went stale then it would be completely pointless unless you are really into numbers game or just feel like shotgun shit out there for the fun of it. I suppose if you set the situation up right from the start then it could work, but you'd know if it was appropriate or not.
/r/seduction17/01/14 08:51 PM
2

I agree. I'll even take it much further and say that this whole practice is laughably closed-minded and idealistic. I picture these list-makers as perpetual match.com customers.
/r/seduction16/01/14 10:11 PM
2

I am admittedly susceptible to this. Usually when I read through a new post and realize it's more crank yanking than helpful, I delete it before it gets posted. This post will help me be mindful in the future. You're completely right that posts should give value to the community above all else. Kudos.
/r/seduction10/01/14 02:54 AM
2

...to drive her mom to the motel.
/r/seduction08/01/14 10:24 PM
3

They aren't shit tests if you started it.
/r/seduction08/01/14 10:23 PM
2

Often their level of interest doesn't actually change. If they are interested, they may be jealous. If they just want to be friends, they may be acting more relaxed because of the situation. If they're immature they may see an opportunity for drama. The social approval and outcome independence resulting from commitment gives a man higher value. This will always win you blanket attention. Some women feel like they can get away more when the guy they are flirting with is the one with the obligatio…
/r/seduction08/01/14 04:14 PM
3

I know a guy who has had a stutter his whole life. When we were little, some of us even made fun of him sometimes because we didn't really understand. He's also a great guy: fun at parties, genuine, smart, creative. He was a swimmer in college so he was always in great shape. He traveled the world life-guarding, surfing, and backpacking after school, and now he's some kind of search-and-rescue fire-fighter or something. He drips with confidence and always has beautiful women in his life. Do you …
/r/seduction30/12/13 03:18 PM
5

I think SteveMcqueenin missed a very important part (if not the actual purpose) of HTWFAIP, and this has driven the discussion off course: Why do we take an interest in people? For our own advantage. The goal of the book is to create relationships with mutual benefits. This is key in why the two books do not conflict. For example, if a bum asks me for spare change, I am not obligated to take an interest in him (NMMNG). If I choose to take a sincere interest in him, it is hopefully because a hand…
/r/seduction23/12/13 08:37 AM
1

Rock solid synopsis from the male perspective. I found the info regarding female psychology and behavior to be the most helpful though. Makes them easier to read. Cheers.
/r/seduction22/12/13 07:30 PM
1

Somehow I did not know you could do that. Thanks!
/r/seduction22/12/13 07:26 PM
1

Great feeling man, thank you and good luck. Really glad I could help someone. Don't take the redpill too seriously!!
/r/seduction21/12/13 03:08 AM
1

1 would be my career. I'm a musician with not much "cool" and no natural talent. It will be a long haul and I feel like I'm way behind most of my peers financially. I don't make much money so I'm always stuck in non-music jobs, but I try to spend intelligently. It's a huge concern. I have had to dump girls because they go out too much for my bank account! 2 would be my looks. Staying on a work-out plan has been the biggest challenge of my entire life, and has required me to shift my focus in a w…
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:52 AM
2

I knew someone here would call me out, and I certainly welcome that. If it helps, I think like a movie star. I honestly do. I think about how men in movies make their moves. I think like a celebrity on their day off...like, "shit, I'm me. Why wouldn't she be interested?" If it helps, I get shot down a lot too. Everyone does. But I get back on the horse. I have a few posts here where you can read that. I still get nervous approaching. I still blow it by being too cocky. I still fail at many shit …
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:44 AM
2

I built approval within minutes by being genuine. It's like when you're in the middle of nowhere and you run out of gas. Improvise.
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:39 AM
2

Austin, TX. Yes.
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:38 AM
1

Never got that far. See above reply.
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:37 AM
2

31...most people were significantly younger.
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:36 AM
2

It actually never got that far. I changed the subject. There's plenty of time for me to tell her that in small doses.
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:35 AM
10

31, 24
/r/seduction21/12/13 02:32 AM
6

I don't remember the last time a woman actually answered her phone. I used to agree with this philosophy, but in practice it just doesn't make any sense. I get text dates all the time, so I'm sticking to that.
/r/seduction19/12/13 10:24 PM
1

Well, if it is crazy parents, with any luck she'll be extra turned on if you keep asking her out!
/r/seduction19/12/13 10:23 PM
1

a) This problem is all in your head, and you even admit it! No one is going to help you except you. Man up and get over it. b) This problem is caused by your attitude and your motives. Evaluate those and be honest with yourself about what you need to do in order to get what you want. Please get rid of all the bullshit NoFap crap. A lack of masturbation is not going to suddenly grant you a seductive lifestyle, social connections, or women. c) May I suggest learning to be more social in general? Y…
/r/seduction19/12/13 10:19 PM
1

Great post.
/r/seduction19/12/13 10:09 PM
17

Bingo.
/r/seduction19/12/13 10:00 PM
8

I love that date idea by the way. Rock solid.
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:24 PM
31

The stare is yet another form of communication. You are communicating that you are acknowledging her, and you can send any emotion along with that message. Anger, frustration, glee, melancholy, excitement...I like to send along the emotion of "I want to fuck your brains out". Eye contact for a second or two and then light smile. Literally picture a model "sexy" face. It helps that I have done photo shoots before so I know what looks stupid and what looks normal. Everything takes practice. I am n…
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:17 PM
49

If I number close only, I don't expect to ever hear from her again. I had a short make-out session with this girl and a followup conversation after I left, so I knew she was impressed with the initial night, but I was curious to see if that would wear off. Two days later I sent a text like "Are you working tonight? Lets do something." I sent a followup text suggesting something fun and specific. She hits me back hours later saying that she has plans with a friend and she invited me along. I sat …
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:13 PM
9

Keep bro'ing that bro, bro.
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:06 PM
46

I'm a pretty genuine guy I think. No reason not to be. You wouldn't be the first ;)
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:05 PM
31

I couldn't believe my own ears. It was like finding life on mars or something. Truth.
/r/seduction19/12/13 09:01 PM
74

The things I've worked on the most are these: 1) Work hard so I can be proud of the life I've created and know my own weaknesses. 2) Be honest as often as possible, with myself and with others. 3) Always have a sincere interest in any endeavor embark upon, even if it's as mundane as opening a door for someone. This goes along with being fair to myself. If I don't like it, I don't do it. 4) Compassion. Reading people. Understanding human psychology at a basic level. Understanding people's desires…
/r/seduction19/12/13 08:47 PM
20

Admittedly, they weren't that hard to beat. While asking her about her career/passions, it turns out that I have a strong background in what she does. She essentially just disagreed with me on a lot of points...kind of one-upping me multiple times to see if I knew what I was talking about and to see how I handled disagreement. I was also asking a lot of questions at first and she would bounce them straight back at me to gauge my own answer. She also asked me about my age (I'm significantly older…
/r/seduction19/12/13 08:41 PM
28

Knowing only the details you've given, I will give you these pointers from my own experience: Enjoy the party. Introduce yourself to every single person in attendance if you can. Just tell the truth and ask them a few questions if it makes sense to. Immerse yourself in the experience...don't be chasing the girl the whole time. This behavior will translate to the real world and people will see this as you network. Your life is a mixture of social life, career, hobbies, love, friends, enemies, ups…
/r/seduction19/12/13 08:38 PM
3

I agree with this, especially with girls that you expect to be seeing again in the future.
/r/seduction19/12/13 08:12 PM
2

You're one strike more forgiving than I am, haha.
/r/seduction19/12/13 05:21 PM
0

Drinking lots of water throughout the day helps tremendously with bad breath and gum health. Water is full of oxygen and the bacteria that cause bad breath are anaerobic. Ask a dentist.
/r/seduction18/12/13 08:25 PM
3

It's just like everything else in game: Start out basic, push the boundaries a little, judge her reaction, move forward accordingly. Then repeat.
/r/seduction18/12/13 08:08 PM
2

I used to do this. Admittedly I still cut off exes who refuse to offer mutual respect. But I definitely had to work to not resent the women who weren't interested in me for a while. Eventually I overcame the neediness and now I stay in contact with damn near everyone I meet (or at least I leave the lines open). It has really paid off in friendships, fun times, self-improvement, and sometimes even a casual hook-up. What helped was looking inside and realizing that I simply wasn't what they wanted…
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:28 PM
7

Are you sure you didn't deserve it? Devil's advocate
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:14 PM
3

It's one of those situations where you have to ask yourself... Are they busy right now? Are they possibly frustrated right now? Are they possibly insecure right now? Are they clearly trying to avoid being approached right now? Is she exhausted right now? If the answer is yes then don't bother, obviously. On the other hand, there are advantages to this situation. If you can legitimately meet them for a reason (class together, need a spotter, interested in their routine, etc.) then why the hell no…
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:03 PM
1

I think that depends on what you're after. I've been on a couple okcupid dates and it turns out the chicks just wanted to fuck. The conversation I worked to keep going (because I like meeting people) was pretty much pointless. One of them even told me this flat out. On the other hand, if you're only out to meet a significant other (or a fuck buddy you can stand) then honestly it probably is worth bailing if the mood isn't relaxed and natural.
/r/seduction16/12/13 03:51 PM
15

That works great with someone who is good at conversation and is already interested in you. I know you're just giving us an example, but I'd like to point out the other way that conversation could have gone: What part of town do you live in? Her: answer You: I went to a cool concert in that area awhile ago. Her: ...
/r/seduction16/12/13 03:44 PM
1

Ask questions I'm actually interested in knowing the answers to, and otherwise don't talk at all. Usually that's just whatever happens to pop into my mind. Sometimes I make up a ridiculous joke question just for the fun of it, and I bring that question up again the next time I see her or if I feel like flirting with her on facebook or something. For example I know a girl who spends a lot of time out in nature, so I asked her if she's ever seen a dead body. I ask her if she's seen one yet when I …
/r/seduction16/12/13 03:39 PM
4

I don't think (s)he was arguing. Just making a (valid) point.
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:06 PM
2

It works great for seduction though, or "Game" as it is categorized in the blog. At no point did the author mention long-term commitments, marriage, or anything like that. Then again, I can think of more than a few relationships which, be them unhealthy, lasted a pretty long time based on points in this article.
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:05 PM
1

This is gold. It reminds me of this guy who just leads interactions along with his hands and eyes.
/r/seduction10/12/13 11:13 PM
7

Asking another question once I've opened them. I have no idea what I can say to them after. A lot of then genuinely think I want the time and leave it at that which is fine I would like to point out that you're about to lead yourself down a path of serious creepiness if you continue with this logic. A sincere congratulations for breaking your comfort zone and getting so good at approaching strangers that you are bored with the results. You've outgrown lesson #1, so it's time to move on. Lesson #…
/r/seduction10/12/13 11:02 PM
5

I think we've come full circle.
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:13 PM
1

They don't care. What they care about is if you're worried about it. Plus, you're already getting sex, right? Who cares? I drive a minivan and I get more action than anyone I know. Chicks give me shit for it all the time.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:40 PM
1

Just did it. Right now. No, really. Met a girl. Took her to my shack in pound town. Game changed forever.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:34 PM
1

Think day-game: Hiking. Swimming hole. Free art museum in interesting part of town. Walk around "the hood" then stop into a bar to shoot pool. Just explore the area. It helps to go do this stuff first, on your own, so you actually know what's out there to offer. The goal is to experience many little things in a short period of time while getting to know each other. This gives you an opportunity to kino, and it also has the psychological effect of making it seem like you've experienced more toget…
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:32 PM
2

Learn how to ride a motorcycle first.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:28 PM
7

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/r/seduction09/12/13 03:27 PM
3

Set your sights on the big picture, not the microcosm of one interaction, one girl, one lay. Build a life for yourself that draws people in, whether that be through work, hobbies, entertainment, or whatever. Think long-term goal of being that guy that everyone wants to be. Meanwhile, practice by approaching tons of people and experiencing life. Be desirable first. Desire second.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:20 PM
1

No creative minds here to chime in? What's happened to this sub?!
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:14 PM
1

That wasn't what I was asking.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:14 PM
0

Beta as hell. It's her decision.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:12 PM
5

There's a first time for everything, man. Don't put kissing up on a pedestal over any other badass experience. I've always had an ok time with women because I used to be outgoing and not old, so this whole thing came a little easier. But you know what this 31 year old spent the past month doing? Learning to ride a motorcycle. They scared the living piss out of me up until I took the class, but I went for it. My first time out on my own I fucked up on almost every turn. I stalled the bike in fron…
/r/seduction02/12/13 07:20 AM
2

Just assume that she is and continue as you were. She'll bring it up if she's concerned.
/r/seduction01/12/13 06:46 PM
1

Use your words. If you like her, go for it. But being that you've known her that long, you are in a unique situation to actually try it out and talk it through without going nuclear. You may end up with an even better friend in the end even if it doesn't work out. Bear in mind that she'll probably act awkward and hesitate and try to break it off once you go for it, so if you're going to go for it, you'd better be prepared to take the lead. I've been in this situation with a few girls and they al…
/r/seduction26/11/13 07:58 PM
4

Get over it. Guys don't see that stuff as a negative. Only women do. What we care about is your looks, personality, trustworthiness, and whether or not there is a better option on the table. I've been trying to explain this to another female for years now and she's ten years older than you. Women really fuck each other up in the heads apparently.
/r/seduction25/11/13 05:13 PM
3

After reading all the comments, you're not even legally an adult yet. You're talking about boys, not men. You can't expect average boys to take a whole lot of initiative because the consequences of misreading signals seems so high. This is something people grow out of with maturity. For them you have to make your interests abundantly clear. Pay lots of attention to the guy you want. Stand in front of him, close to him, look him in the eyes and touch him. When he gets close, move closer. Make him…
/r/seduction25/11/13 04:46 PM
33

the conflict or Syria don't talk about this. I ask her if she wants to have drinks with me Tuesday night. Suddenly no response – we might have a flake. No, you have a girl that you didn't make a great impression on the first time. Most of what you describe isn't flake; it's not agreeing to meet up. Completely different. A flake is someone who agrees to meet up and then backs out last minute, at which time you tell her that you don't like that flaky bullshit and that you'll see her around. Everyt…
/r/seduction19/11/13 03:56 PM
3

In America, generalizations generalize you!
/r/seduction14/11/13 04:51 PM
1

Focus on your goal. What is your goal? Break it down logically. The goal is what is important, so you just keep doing what you do until you reach it, then, possibly, move on to another goal. Everything hovering around that goal (negative feelings, disappointment, etc.) don't matter, but are natural and will pass.
/r/seduction08/11/13 07:03 PM
2

Take her out. 100%. Go have fun with her whether it be friends or more. YOLO. Meanwhile, meet other women.
/r/seduction08/11/13 07:01 PM
0

Great point. Any decent woman will make her own decisions.
/r/seduction08/11/13 06:59 PM
-5

I don't regret a single time that I've stolen a girl away from her boyfriend. If the guy is worth more than me, she'll stay with him and the girl and I can have our fun as friends. Simple as that. It's pretty rare to meet a 9 or a 10 with no boyfriend in my town, so when would I get my chance while also avoiding rebound status? Never. No regrets.
/r/seduction08/11/13 06:57 PM
1

Good sign that she doesn't mention him. It means she's accepting offers. That's what you'd do if you were in her shoes, right? To be honest though, it doesn't matter if she does or she doesn't. You should always assume attraction and ask them out if you're interested. They aren't married after all, and I've stolen away a few girls in the past. I'd be interested in how others interpret this, but I've gotten to a point in my approaches where committed women will say something like "I feel obligate…
/r/seduction08/11/13 06:54 PM
1

I spent a weekend with a huge group of late-20's women a few weeks back and they all laughed when I told them I call to ask a girl out. They said it was weird and that they never pick up the phone if a guy who is still a stranger wants to ask them out. I told them they were ridiculous for only dating scrubs. They laughed; I stood my ground; it was an interesting conversation. The "don't text" thing is very common advice in pickup, but frankly the girls had a point. I don't even remember the last…
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:57 PM
3

First of all, an ambiguous answer is a no. Don't ask what the answer is. If it's not yes, it's no. Just learn to live by that. Second, a phone number means almost nothing if you're the one asking for it. Start talking, build a rapport, create an excuse to give her a call based on a shared interest "Oh you like goats huh? We should check out that goat farm sometime. Give me your number" (as you bust out your phone). Get numbers as soon as you can, then continue the conversation for a few minutes …
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:30 PM
1

So in other words, read the Carnegie book.
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:21 PM
1

Interesting point. I feel like there are a lot of great answers here. I also think that being able to clearly differentiate between the two is one of the untalked-about goals of this endeavor. Sort of a landmark. I have absolutely no problem with this now, but I can clearly remember the days of it being a problem.
/r/seduction19/10/13 07:47 AM
1

Stop being a boring person. Be genuinely interested in other people. Ask them questions. Have something genuine to add.
/r/seduction16/10/13 08:25 PM
1

RhythmAndTango is absolutely right about #1. Confidence comes from repetitive risk taking. This is true for any aspect of life, whether it be in sports or in love or in your career. What people don't seem to understand is that when it comes to social situations there is actually zero risk. No penalties for failure...only rewards for success. Mountain climbing, demanding a raise, or starting your own business are all real risks that have serious down sides if you don't succeed. They're exciting. …
/r/seduction16/10/13 08:15 PM
3

The guy who doesn't waste time on fun is posting a motivational speech on an internet forum. That makes sense.
/r/seduction15/10/13 02:22 PM
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I definitely laughed when he said movies are a waste of time. Film is so integrated into culture. I would find it pretty difficult to talk to normal people without having kept up with popular movies. Just because I'm still young doesn't mean I should be spending every waking minute of my day running around climbing mountains and putting my dick in everything like a spazz.
/r/seduction15/10/13 02:18 PM
0

How's she lookin'?
/r/seduction15/10/13 02:12 PM
11

Dear Enlightened in England, Based strictly on your write-up, it sounds like you may be obsessing over a white whale. According to you, you weren't terribly attractive, but you projected your legitimate importance by being an organizer and a leader. Through this life you had created for yourself, you met and were sleeping with a committed 10, who was a keeper, yet you let your own unfounded insecurities get the best of you and you broke up with her. You rationalized this with "I can do better". …
/r/seduction12/10/13 04:45 AM
16

It's okay, more than likely I was never going to read that book.
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:02 PM
341

If only "that hair looks nice on you" didn't make me sound like a murder-rapist.
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:01 PM
16

Typically, if a chick makes the cold approach, she's fat. If she makes the cold approach but she's not fat, I immediately assume she's after my money, because that's what strippers and service chicks do. If she makes the cold approach, she's not fat, and she's not a stripper, then I immediately assume she's bat shit fucking crazy because that has happened numerous times. I might also be dreaming. I get cold approached fairly often and not once has a normal, healthy, dateable chick ever cold appr…
/r/seduction04/10/13 02:29 PM
32

There are plenty of hot girls ready to drop their panties for you Am I in the wrong sub? This is the one where we hone our seduction skills, right? Because women don't line up to fuck us?
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:54 PM
1

dude you aren't going to have any teeth left.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:11 PM
7

I'd take advice from a shark on how to catch fish.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:11 PM
34

He could if he realized himself and changed. Or what if he sold his comic collection for a million dollars and travelled the world with a cosplay model he met at a batman convention? I could see it.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:09 PM
-4

I bet she's bad in bed. That's the only reason I'd even consider not bothering.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:07 PM
1

Pretty boys do the same shit. The successful entrepreneur is the one who fails until he or she succeeds. Little time for relationships with all that.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:05 PM
1

I've heard all my hottest female friends say this exact thing on separate occasions, multiple times.
/r/seduction20/09/13 07:03 PM
25

I’m surrounded by male models every day. I’m surrounded by actors every day. This is very specifically what makes her different than other women, and the exact reason why this should be taken with a grain of salt. The average girl is not around those people every day, so she's still impressed by them. It's really cool if miss Macklen is really over it; she sounds really cool. But the average HB10 won't be. They'll still focus on good looks. They'll still be impress by money. They'll still look f…
/r/seduction20/09/13 06:59 PM
1

That was the make it or break it moment and you might have blown it right then. I would have taken advantage of the rumor to escalate the relationship.
/r/seduction06/09/13 08:10 PM
1

You have two options: Stick with the one-itis and start inviting her to go do shit (like a man), or actually follow the advice in this sub and go meet lots of new people. If you do neither you'll continue being the regretful wimp 17yo that's portrayed in this post. It's up to you.
/r/seduction06/09/13 08:07 PM
3

What are you doing with your hands? By the time you're making out then she's already decided she's interested in you sexually. She probably also has some sort of "rule" about whether she's going to sleep with you (as a guy she just met) so don't fight that. If she's actually making out with you (not sheepishly kissing or distracted, but engaged) then it's basically up to your hands to direct where you want things to go. You're job at that point is to communicate what you want, while testing your…
/r/seduction25/08/13 08:37 PM
-1

This is misleading. If you want a relationship then go for equals. If you want a fast fuck then don't pretend she isn't just a piece of meat to you. Fuck buddies and legit chicks fit somewhere in between meat and equal. Hot chicks do it to us all the time, my friend.
/r/seduction23/08/13 04:06 PM
7

I know some particularly frustrating chicks who definitely, 100% hit those numbers, and they are all gorgeous, single doctors/lawyers/buisiness-ladies. Those categories even hit the nail on the head. Beach guy? They show me pictures of the beach guy and I hate him! Meanwhile they're snapchatting me and a half-dozen other guys tits for absolutely no reason.
/r/seduction16/08/13 02:19 PM
1

and in some cases can actually make them feel insecure Dude this has actually become a problem for me. As much as I love fucking with my friends (in hopes they'll fuck with me back) I've really gotten my shit together over the past couple years and I've ended up hurting people's feelings while joking around. It sucks. I guess if you keep the joking Alpha vs. Alpha and Beta Vs Beta then nobody really gets hurt.
/r/seduction15/08/13 07:42 PM
2

Get a sense of humor and fuck back.
/r/seduction15/08/13 07:38 PM
1

Wow, I wish I had this problem! Meet a girl, don't flirt with her too much, treat her like your sister, and listen to all her bullshit problems. You'll be inclined to give advice regarding said problems, but don't sweat it! Most women have no intention of actually solving them! Just listen. Then go watch bad movies and drink appletinis and shit. Edit: Oh, and don't expect them to help you with your problems either. The attention should be on them.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:21 PM
1

Advice: Be there. The guy was never around. Too ingrained in his little world. Probably smoked too much weed. He probably knew that he wasn't worth socializing with. Just that fact that she kept showing up without him made her open season in my eyes. LDR? Just don't do it. Unless of course you're very open to the idea of your girlfriend in Cincinnati getting fucked behind your back. Or worse, that she's going to meet someone better. This idea comes with the package of course. And yes, I know a d…
/r/seduction11/08/13 06:39 PM
1

I've been on both ends of cheating. Yeah it sucks. But I'm being honest when I say that I felt very little guilt when I shook the hand of a man whom I had just crushed. And when I was cheated on? Well I probably had it coming. It had been about a month of work and 3 weeks in. I met the poor sap at a party. He had some really douchey nickname, which was the first thing I started ragging on him for. "Why does he go by that stupid nickname? That name makes him sound like a douche. ...says the guy w…
/r/seduction11/08/13 06:14 PM
1

Not personally, but I meet people like that in my home town all the time. Mid 20's...fresh out of college...simultaneously trying on their first pair of adult pants while leisurely "finding themselves" on dad's dime. Not saying you're anything like that last part, but those are the people I meet constantly here. Shit, even when I travel I meet people in this situation. "WTF? You're an import? Well I'm just visiting! How are you supposed to show me around!?" I digress... If you're in an actual ci…
/r/seduction11/08/13 05:19 PM
19

More like a guy picked up OP...
/r/seduction09/08/13 03:27 PM
1

Ask her about her tapestry and incense collection?
/r/seduction07/08/13 04:08 AM
1

You aren't a finished piece of work until the day you die my friend. The you that you are working on right now is who you are...nobody's story is finished being told until they're 6 feet under, and even then the greatest people's stories live on. If you've given up then you don't deserve anything you get from this day forward. Two anecdotes that help me remember this: 1) All my best childhood friends (the one's I met when I was 7 and graduated both high school and college with) went on to have g…
/r/seduction07/08/13 04:01 AM
1

Forever awkward in my living room...
/r/seduction07/08/13 03:19 AM
1

I'd say don't bother because there's a lot of buildup for the possibility of "failure", but I've done it and it wouldn't have worked without this: 1) Have a plan. Contact her a good while before planning a trip to her area. Don't make it a blatant "I'm travelling to see you!" thing...have a game plan in case she can't meet up or so you can entertain her in the case that she is eager to join. This is just good advice for any trip to see anyone really. It doesn't put them in an awkward position an…
/r/seduction07/08/13 03:02 AM
3

American beer is like making love in a canoe...
/r/seduction07/08/13 02:42 AM
6

What the fuck did I just read.
/r/seduction26/07/13 02:07 PM
1

Say what's on your mind and go. Pro tip: non-smokers should carry a lighter anyway!
/r/seduction25/07/13 04:27 PM
1

This makes no sense. The idea of a guy who is too scared to approach women becoming the target of a seductress goes against everything we do here. It's completely beta and passive. "Hey John, I know you're a newb and all, so just stand here next to the bathroom and wait for a hot chick to rub her tits on you."
/r/seduction25/07/13 04:25 PM
-1

This is dangerous advice. Sure OP, you do all this stuff...but you're also the type to post on a seduction forum. You're confident and you "get it". You are like .005 % of women! Taking this advice is like two bass trying to eat each other. Of course, we assume that most, if not all chicks in a club are DTF, but most women (this information coming from lots of experience opening and from my best female friends) are naive enough to think that sitting patiently in a tight circle staring at their i…
/r/seduction25/07/13 04:09 PM
5

You're young and that's understandable, but you'll outgrow caring about shit like that. The sooner the better. If your friends are laughing because they see the humor in the situation then they're just being typical friends. If they're laughing at your drive, passion, candor, or failure, then it's time to learn be more self-sufficient and find better friends. As an alpha male, you will always be surrounded by people who will sit in the corner of the bar waiting for you to initiate with the girls…
/r/seduction22/07/13 09:19 PM
1

I'm thinking the same thing. But am I crazy to think that she's kind of pulling a bitchy move? If I turned a chick down multiple times I'd never insist that she be my BFF. Nor would I continue flirting. I'd feel like a total dick. Seems selfish.
/r/seduction22/07/13 09:08 PM
6

Lemme guess...this was via text? She's dumb. Stop texting conversations. (I think your comebacks were solid though.)
/r/seduction22/07/13 08:29 PM
1

Ask questions that demand light-hearted or sexual answers. Never "chat" text...if there is something of importance to share then a call should be placed. If it's a quick flirt then text is okay. Try not to ever initiate text. Generally try to be responding more than initiating because text is stupid. If you don't get a response then proceed with caution. For me personally: tease, move quickly, keep my wallet on lock-down, and never get super wasted.
/r/seduction22/07/13 08:28 PM
1

Edited for clarity, sorry. For example, she'll invite me (or my friends and I) out to meet up with her friends. She won't go one on one, formally. Mind you, she is well aware of my exact intentions...I made them very clear. And IOI's are flowing. Edit: I did say yes to friends meetup...I went and I asked her out again. No dice.
/r/seduction22/07/13 08:18 PM
6

If you're going to be successful at anything, you're eventually going to have to learn to man up and just go for it. Every real man has to learn this lesson at some point in time. The worst she can say is "no". If she insults or patronizes you because of your age then it's a blessing in disguise. Move on. No matter what the answer, treat her exactly the same as you did before. Not only will you triumph by breaking out of your comfort zone, but you'll have no excuse for regrets and she'll probabl…
/r/seduction22/07/13 08:06 PM
2

Depends... Do you just not give a shit about the follow through? Or are you scared? I get numbers all the time because I think it's fun, but often, by the time the weekend comes around, I'll just delete them. Sometimes going on a date just doesn't sound fun. Forcing yourself would simply be counter-productive and probably a waste of resources. On the other hand, if you are scared to go on the date because you fear what will happen, then you just gotta man up and make the call. Think of everythin…
/r/seduction22/07/13 07:58 PM
0

Scenario: You meet a girl who is clearly interested, get her number, state your intentions and ask her out, then she suddenly brings up her boyfriend. You tell her the offer stands, she continues blowing up your phone all week asking to hang out, but she still won't go out with you (on a date) without friends. What would you do? edit: clarity
/r/seduction22/07/13 07:47 PM
1

I usually try to run it sort of like a late-night talk show. Instead of just Q&A, I usually ask a really generic question and then quickly vamp on the answer and go down the rabbit hole. For example: Q) What do you do for fun? A) I like to take my dog for walks, and drink, and you know, the normal stuff. Q) Do you have a really big dog? Is that why it's so fun? A) Haha, uh, no? Q) Then how big is it? I want specific dimensions. A) Haha I don't know. Q) You must really love your dog... (sarcastic…
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:20 AM
3

Pure gold.
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:11 AM
2

I'm no means a master, but I'm about as good as they get in my circle of friends. My answer is "sort of". From my experience, while the nuanced signs of interest definitely become more visible and offer more insight over time, the signs of disinterest are what really become easy to spot, and that's a great thing to have control of. Seeing signs of disinterest are the fun ones because then it's like "fuck it! Let's have fun with this!" or "fuck it! Ain't nobody got time for that!". The thing is, …
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:07 AM
26

Seems counterproductive.
/r/seduction22/07/13 03:37 AM
1

Dude, you aren't doing anything wrong. Think about it this way: there are alpha males and beta males...there are also alpha females and beta females. You seduced a beta female or two and they're needy as fuck. Simple as that.
/r/seduction16/07/13 01:39 PM
1

This hits my right in the recent feels. I casually dated a great chick for about eleven months until we eventually tried to give monogamy/commitment a shot. I was happy to do it. The problem is, she IMMEDIATELY wen't super needy. I felt like I was suddenly dating a high school cheerleader. It was really disappointing. We had been spending two or three nights (every free night I had) together, but, like a light switch, that just wasn't enough. Suddenly "checking in" was a requirement. If I was to…
/r/seduction16/07/13 01:28 PM
1

I know lots of "daddy's money" people who lead great lives and have success. At least in their opinion. I also know beta types who are successful by their standards but perhaps not mine. And lots of people just get lucky bagging the perfect significant other. Time will tell how those pan out. Success, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, and there are of course exceptions to every rule.
/r/seduction16/07/13 01:11 PM
1

This entire thread is overthinking it. Everything that happens in text is an extension of what happens in person and dependent upon the impression you made from the onset.
/r/seduction15/07/13 08:15 PM
2

Girls are fucking weird sometimes Need I point out that everyone is weird sometimes and that all women are different? These are points on how to have the best results considering the statistics. Always check out the playing field before you play ball, and adjust accordingly.
/r/seduction15/07/13 08:08 PM
1

Just ask them random questions and vamp off what the answer is.
/r/seduction15/07/13 08:02 PM
2

The only thing I could find regarding the author's background is a laundry-list of pick-up references. Neither his personal biography or his wiki mention anything about him other than his role as a pick-up artist. His entire life is based around picking up women, and this includes the business he runs and the lifestyle that he leads. Good for him for possibly starting his own business and having the cash and free time to rapidly get in shape, but his pool of actual life experience seems shallow.…
/r/seduction15/07/13 08:00 PM
0

No offense, but I don't think you really understand what an alpha male is supposed to be. Please don't associate alpha status with being a dumb, douchy, meat-head. Nothing you've mentioned would ever lead to alpha disqualification. Why you're getting upvotes is beyond me.
/r/seduction15/07/13 03:13 PM
2

There are some serious contradictions in that infographic.
/r/seduction10/07/13 08:35 PM
1

Let me know when and where...I'll be there.
/r/seduction09/07/13 10:20 PM
1

I'd love to see his mustache.
/r/seduction09/07/13 10:07 PM
3

If the "redpill" part of his name has anything to do with it then I'd take what he says with a serious grain of salt in this situation.
/r/seduction09/07/13 09:41 PM
1

While the original post is certainly not worth the attention it seems to be getting, I have to chime in here. I love how the girl who blessed us with her opinion despite her understanding of seduction just happened to praise your comment...especially after reading this: "dumb bitches." I use those words because if I am going to employ non verbal manipulation, it is because I believe the person I'm interacting with to be less intelligent, and thus less aware of my behavior and intentions. First o…
/r/seduction09/07/13 09:34 PM
2

P.S Not approaching and approaching but getting rejected both lead to the same result - hence they're both failure False. False. False. This explains perfectly why you don't get it...you couldn't possibly after such a statement. Everyone who has cold approached a beautiful woman(or man) knows the feeling...the one like jumping off a tall cliff into the water. The logical part of your brain is urging you not to do it, but the thrill part of your brain knows that it'll be worth it. In order to tak…
/r/seduction08/07/13 04:39 AM
11

Fuck this. Moving fast has always been positive for me. Sure, a first date is not the situation to be talking about rings and babies, but pretending not to be interested is a deceptive waste of everyone's time. Every second you don't show interest is a missed opportunity. Play it cool, show her that you're interested, but not that you're willing to wait around while she plays the field. This will find no place in my routine.
/r/seduction04/07/13 01:19 AM
1

Reach hand out, lightly grab chin, turn toward me, make eye contact, go in.
/r/seduction12/06/13 02:18 PM
3

Some people don't mind killing their reputation by burning tons of bridges, some people's greatest asset is their reputation. No skin off my ass if you want to manipulate your way into bed, buddy.
/r/seduction05/06/13 09:42 PM
9

I just lived this experience. Girl asked me out, we casually dated, then she insisted on rushing into commitment. I didn't think it was a good idea and I was honest...so she bailed. Didn't speak to her again for 2 months then she facebooks me out of the blue saying she appreciates me giving her space and invited me to hang out as friends. I was honest again, as always; I told her it would be weird hanging out as friends because I'm still sexually attracted to her. A couple weeks later she invite…
/r/seduction05/06/13 09:38 PM
36

You don't have to be a dick. Just don't act like my mom. It really shouldn't be depressing at all. Do you really want to be fully engaged in someone you just met? I seriously doubt a decent woman would be desperate and eager to engage in fulfilling your every need and desire on a first date. Why would you? That would be asking for disaster on both ends.
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:19 PM
0

Ha, one of the top comments is some butthurt dude claiming that ultimately it's only penis size that matters and he somehow relates this to gold-digging and shallowness. I wish I could reach out and help that poor soul but I fear he is too far gone :(
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:16 PM
0

Yes, absolutely they do. I know because I talk to women in my spare time, and, believe it or not, I have some that are just friends.
/r/seduction09/05/13 02:40 PM
2

If she's sitting too far away for a kiss then you aren't ready to go in for the kiss. Start over. What have you been doing this whole time? Have you been leading up to the kiss? If you're leading up to the kiss, you would be kino'ing her and she'd be laughing and you'd be smiling and she'd be right next to you, possibly with a finger on your thigh. If you think she's just being shy, then be the opposite of shy and go get what you want. Make it a big statement and say "you're too far away" and ei…
/r/seduction07/05/13 08:48 PM
2

That's not a shit test.
/r/seduction02/05/13 08:37 PM
6

It's catch-22 advice...the people who "get it" are always saying it...and the people who don't "get it" are always receiving it!
/r/seduction19/04/13 08:28 PM
9

That's cool. How about a beer then?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 03:22 PM
1

In situations like those I always have the mindset that the longer I wait to start mingling, the harder it will be. Confidently walk in the door and immediately introduce yourself to the first person you encounter, male, female, attractive, ugly. Everyone has value. Chat them up for a bit, remember their name, and move on to the next person. Make sure to meet the host and thank them for the party. Don't bullshit anyone. Tell them you came alone just looking to meet people and have a great time. …
/r/seduction18/04/13 07:07 PM
29

It's common. You get over it with experience. You're still putting them on a pedestal. There are a billion hot girls in the world. Most of them unfortunately have horrible self esteem and are generally annoying to be around. There's no reason to treat them any differently. If anything have sympathy for them.
/r/seduction17/04/13 02:08 PM
5

I'm betting something probably clicked in your brain, OP, and I'm happy for you, but this explanation makes absolutely no sense. Keep at it and good luck in your endeavors.
/r/seduction16/04/13 07:41 PM
4

Start by at least giving a nice, confident and projected "Hi, how are you?" and just keep on smiling and looking as you pass, rather than the usual thing where you just pretend like it didn't happen. If it feels like a situation to approach then just do it. No hesitation. Start talking. "You're cute. Who are you?"
/r/seduction15/04/13 05:29 PM
0

And go ahead and tie a yak tail around your belt for good luck. Jesus, seriously? This is an old wives tale. It was even on myth busters. Get it together, /r/seduction
/r/seduction15/04/13 01:20 PM
2

Usually I've escalated through wit and laughter and kino throughout the night and if I end up in a one-one-one situation where making out is appropriate (or fun and spontaneous) then I don't fart around. I just go for it. No thought or lead-up necessary. Like jumping off a cliff into a lake. Or like a bandaid. Just do it man. Grab her chin, point, and kiss.
/r/seduction13/04/13 07:48 PM
1

Oh my god. I've never really felt the urge to hack a website until now.
/r/seduction12/04/13 09:06 PM
2

Wow. Great post.
/r/seduction12/04/13 04:09 AM
13

but...I'll be fired
/r/seduction11/04/13 09:10 PM
1

This is horrific advice. Sometimes I feel sorry for the non-seduction community.
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:29 PM
-10

Dude. No wonder you didn't get this chick. You have no sense of humor.
/r/seduction08/04/13 09:41 PM
0

If it were me I'd chock it up to 85% chance she's a crazy attention-hungry trouble-girl or 15% chance she dropped her phone in the toilet. Either way I'd delete the number and move forward. If she calls back without an excuse I'd go all-in and lay direct groundwork for a fuckbuddy or one-night-stand. Not saying this ruined your chances, but don't add chicks on facebook. It only hurts your game.
/r/seduction08/04/13 09:39 PM
2

Backfiring is kind of the point. Filter out the girls who aren't out to have a good time.
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:16 PM
2

This is basically what I was trying to say only in far more poetic terms. Well put!
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:23 PM
1

Do what you want and go at your own pace. You sound like you're trying to exchange work for success as if it's money for fruit or something...doesn't work like that. All that shit you've been working on is just ammo for after you break the ice and start getting shit tests thrown your way. Men with no ammo get blown out. Good for you on all the achievements, those are great first steps to becoming a desirable male. But you have to realize that two years isn't all that long to have internalized th…
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:05 PM
73

Dress well. Plan your night so that you aren't tied to your roommate who has no game and so you have an exit strategy to get the girl home. Arrive with an offering (women, drugs, fancy booze). Meet the hosts. Introduce yourself to everyone immediately. Participate in everything. Initiate kino using the obvious accessories: "I like your bracelet (play with the bracelet with your hands)". Don't get too drunk. Bank.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:38 PM
1

Safest bet would be to keep him out of the picture in every way possible at all times, but if you must bring him up, always use it as an opportunity to make a point, otherwise you'll friendzone yourself. It's about you and her...not about you her and him.
/r/seduction03/04/13 08:32 PM
1

Have lots of money. j/k Same shit different ages.
/r/seduction03/04/13 06:49 PM
0

If you didnt get the digits you may be out of luck. It comes down to her initial impression of you at this point. Dont add her, just message request her number and call if she gives it to you. Better yet just wait to see her again.
/r/seduction03/04/13 03:20 AM
3

Sorry man, but I have to disagree. I think you just haven't dealt with women like this. OP did a great job of passing a long line of shit tests from an insecure girl who puts up a raging front. Lots of them do it. Lots of us don't find them to be worth the trouble (sticking your dick in crazy). But OP did it.
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:20 PM
2

If she talks about the ex anything more than in passing then she still has feelings. It means he's on her mind a lot.
/r/seduction28/03/13 07:24 PM
2

Qualifier + Indicator of relationship status = she wants you to know shes single and experienced
/r/seduction28/03/13 07:23 PM
2

10/10
/r/seduction28/03/13 03:43 PM
1

clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
/r/seduction27/03/13 07:32 PM
3

Anime convention followed by a rave. That sounds like an absolutely killer time.
/r/seduction26/03/13 09:36 PM
28

People love talking about themselves. FTFY And while we're on the topic, I try to avoid starting sentences with the word "so" because it can sound presumptuous and labored. Picture yourself standing next to someone and you're a little nervous thinking of something to say. You chime in with "So. You are into pottery?" That sounds like small talk...and like you two are stuck together and there's a gun to your heads. No thanks. Furthermore, I try not to break conversation with questions at all. "Yo…
/r/seduction22/03/13 05:14 PM
0

Same with X.
/r/seduction22/03/13 01:52 PM
1

I flirt with the opposite sex just for attention constantly...with no expectation of sex...and I couldn't be more male.
/r/seduction20/03/13 07:44 PM
1

The five numbers thing was almost a self-deprecating joke...sorry. But I do tend to stretch casual relationships out...fuck-buddies, etc. I prefer high-quality dates than one-night-stands. Yes, value by proxy = social proof (my bad, should have stuck to the common terms). Thank you! Edit: had you seen my pathetic game as a gigging musician ten years ago when I was a handsome, long-haired heart-throb, you'd be laughing your ass off. I should have had no problem with women back then, but I was a a…
/r/seduction20/03/13 07:36 PM
1

I have found a way other than teasing that tends to work well, but it's somewhat counter-intuitive and can be confusing until you experience it. Often I'll spark conversation and a person seems to have it all...they're attractive, put together, they claim to have a cool, well-paying job, they seem to have cool friend, and do cool things, and live in a cool place. So I'll praise them for it and continue asking questions. I'll tell them how great it must be to have it all and how I'm working towar…
/r/seduction20/03/13 07:14 PM
1

9:03 I about died laughing
/r/seduction20/03/13 03:08 PM
2

Yep, that adrenaline man. Then, even if nothing comes of it, or even if it goes badly, you get that feeling of success mixed with a little bit of fatigue. Then you pat yourself on the back and forget about it in anticipation for next time. Good read.
/r/seduction13/03/13 07:15 AM
1

I've said it before and I'll say it again...text is also good for reaching out to women in other cities, mere acquaintances, and women you haven't spoken with in a while. Send them a joke, have a quick back and forth, and then move on. Everyone loves attention.
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:23 PM
-2

Great work! $5 says she's a 7 looking for LTR...
/r/seduction01/03/13 03:38 PM
3

"Did it hurt? ... ...when all of you naked people fell from heaven."
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:31 PM
1

Stop what you're doing and acknowledge it when it happens. Mind over matter my friend.
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:29 PM
2

First off, don't confuse having feelings for someone with Adam & Eve God indoctrination...getting oneitis having feelings for someone is completely natural and you should never feel bad about it. It can be burdensome if you have other goals though... If you're lying or misleading or having evil intentions when you try to get a girl into the sack, then YES you have the wrong mentality. Don't be a rapist. If you feel bad for sleeping with a girl that isn't wearing a ring you gave her, then YES you…
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:20 PM
2

I've done this at quite a few events. This is the best opportunity ever. Meet people right out of the gates and 100% declare your intentions: (in a nice strong voice while reaching out your hand) "Hi, I'm fiveironknight. I'm hoping to meet cool people to party with on this cruise. What's your name? Where are you from? What room are you in? Have you done this before?" Remember their names and something simple about them, create that bond, then move on and meet others. Introduce them to one anothe…
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:06 PM
11

You answered your own question, man. "Because it's better than staying along at home doing nothing." What better excuse do you need? Not only is it true, it's a perfect opportunity to knock down her shit test while also making it known that you are out to have a good time. If any person questions something like that then fuck 'em.
/r/seduction28/02/13 09:50 PM
1

While I agree that this is risky and extremely situational, "you hear women complain about _____" is not something any of us should ever be concerned with.
/r/seduction28/02/13 09:35 PM
2

Just get there. Whether or not it's a booty call doesn't matter. How would you get her to invite you over for board games? Same thing, only if she's interested and you move quickly then you've upgraded to booty call. Honestly, if you've hooked up 3 times then this part shouldn't be complicated. Either you're way over thinking it or we have reason to be skeptical.
/r/seduction28/02/13 09:31 PM
4

You're just pissed 'cause no one would TLDR it for you!
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:57 PM
1

That's part of what I took from this article actually...that money and peacocking might go farther elsewhere. Who knows. I've never been anywhere and I'm American!
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:51 PM
5

So you didn't read the article.
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:24 PM
5

Hey man, you okay?
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:24 PM
1

The question is...would it work on you? If a girl came up and did that to me, I'd be skeptical. But in the end I'd probably type in my number because fuck it. If she's hot I'd probably meet her for a drink, assuming she didn't sell my number to a telemarketer. Edit, which is why I think tactics like this give the cancerous phrase "Be attractive; don't be unattractive." credence.
/r/seduction27/02/13 11:23 PM
15

Comedian funny is like "I'm entertaining the room right now" funny. The more effective funny is more subtle...it's personalized or situational...which is why teasing a girl directly about something she just did/said is so effective. But then again, speaking in a group while being funny is great. You just have to included everyone in the humor and avoid becoming "the entertainer".
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:36 PM
2

Shit test still catch me off guard all the time. Simply holding stance and eye-contact while smirking mischievously is my default answer. If something to escalate pops into my head then I'll say it but that's completely up to me.
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:27 PM
23

For me it was to make moves quickly rather than pondering the outcomes. When I was younger I was naive and lucky. I had had a lot of success with women because I was really gung-ho and confident so I moved quickly. When I saw a girl I liked I would move straight in. I was always the first to ask the new girl out. If I was interested in a girl who had a boyfriend I would present myself as a better match and move in. It worked and I used to break hearts. But I wasn't getting every girl...and that …
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:18 PM
1

Do something, and then actually care about the other person's reaction. What a concept!
/r/seduction25/02/13 07:52 PM
22

Yes you have.
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:07 PM
2

Valuation of Hot-Babe status from 1-10, based not only on looks, but on value compared to everyone else present.
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:24 PM
12

With that attitude I'm not surprised. You may be a 3 but you are thinking like a 1. Start thinking like a 10.
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:22 PM
2

Dude. Let those people have their opinions. I'm here to tell you that while you may be more limited than John Hamm, you can still Donald Draper the fuck out of some ladies. I know 'cause I look like fat-Mac from It's Always Sunny and I'm having no issues. This line shouldn't be a line...it should be a fact bomb that you just pushed the big red button on. Women will know the difference.
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:16 PM
1

And nothing will work if you're a diffident slob. If this is a problem then get your act together.
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:12 PM
1

Fantastic book. I'm on my fifth or sixth copy now. I keep insisting that others read it.
/r/seduction19/02/13 05:31 PM
1

Congrats on recognizing and solving your problem! Most people never get this far. I know people in their mid 30's who still talk about their frat/sorority days like they're still happening. You never would have gotten anywhere with people like that in the first place. Find a higher standard of person to spend your time with and move forward knowing what you know now. Never look back.
/r/seduction19/02/13 05:29 PM
2

One of the things that immediately attracts me to a woman is when she bust my chops...teases back, calls me out, etc. Love it! You seem like a girl worth gaming! Good read!
/r/seduction16/02/13 09:46 PM
-6

I'm on this forum a little bit each day and the vast majority of those terms have never been aren't often used. BUT SORRY TO TROUBLE YOU. Abbreviations can't describe how much we are going to miss your presence in this community.
/r/seduction16/02/13 09:44 PM
2

Own your life. Once you do that then shit this mundane won't even be thought provoking.
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:54 PM
1

What would a normal, confident guy in a movie say in that situation? Well that's you now so start by doing that. Then move the conversation toward the direction you want it to go. If you have no idea how to talk to people in general then that's a huge problem and you need to get to the bottom of why that is. If you're socially inept then you're kind of out of luck until you integrate yourself. Personally, I can think of about a million things to say or do in that situation. Playfully say "sick '…
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:50 PM
12

Pics of cute dog or GTFO
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:11 PM
9

If you're considering selling your '70's shag carpet van, I know a guy who might be interested.
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:02 PM
3

Depends, my friend. If you made a decent impression during the initiation then go straight to casual dates! I do it all the time and it works every time! Action guaranteed, whether it's dinner at my place or movie on her couch. Now, I guess if I met a girl on the street, said nothing but " please go on a date with me" and she said "okay pick me up at 8:30 Friday", done, then maybe I'd take her somewhere neutral, but frankly it's so much easier to get into her comfort zone when I meet her. I have…
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:00 PM
1

Homemade pizza. Genius. Gotta use that!
/r/seduction11/02/13 03:55 PM
4

For a long date, always plan a series of events. The only consideration is the starting and ending points. What happens in the middle is completely elastic and irrelevant if you are comfortable with women and she's worth hooking up with. The date is about the two of you...just the two of you...not the outside world. The outside world just gets to chime in every once and a while during your date to entertain you. It helps to plan a series of short events because this psychologically brings the tw…
/r/seduction11/02/13 03:54 PM
1

And frankly I find guys with muscular legs AND glasses quite attractive.
/r/seduction09/02/13 08:15 PM
3

Wow, short, concise, tactical detail? What a refreshing post! Take notes, field reporters. Thanks man.
/r/seduction06/02/13 04:52 PM
-2

You're new here, aren't you.
/r/seduction04/02/13 02:51 PM
2

Deciding together should be part of the process. It should be fun. Tell her to come pick out a movie and start kino there.
/r/seduction01/02/13 10:46 PM
1

I'm with OP on early. Just go for it when you want to. There's no countdown timer. I've gone so far as to literally grab a girl's junk after having just met her, and all she did is say something laid back like "okay you crossed the line, buddy" and then kept the conversation going. I was expecting a slap. Nope. Agreeing to a one-on-one movie night communicates to me that she at least wants to make out, so I just plop down right next to her and make myself comfortable.
/r/seduction01/02/13 10:45 PM
1

I disagree. Twice. Flaking once gives you an opportunity to take complete control of the situation. Kind of like a shit test. I usually communicate something like "I don't work well with flakes 'cause I'm a busy guy. If you want to meet up at XXX at 8:30 Tuesday then I'll be there. It was cool meeting you." And it's the truth because I'm a really busy guy, and basically that's me dumping them. I closed multiple first-meetup flakes with this move. Of course if she straight up stands you up? Fuck …
/r/seduction01/02/13 10:35 PM
2

So then I've been sleeping with 1's my entire life. Awesome.
/r/seduction01/02/13 10:19 PM
-4

Cool story, bro? Are you asking for advice?
/r/seduction01/02/13 06:06 PM
5

I'd like to point something out about this concept. Words aren't worth shit. You have to actually be seen with other women for it to have even a minimal effect (at least with women who aren't already into you). On top of that, if the women you are seen with visibly have no sexual interest in you then the effect is minimized. Furthermore, being seen with a hot girl all over you doesn't mean that suddenly every hot girl in the room will want you. It means that the chicks who think they are in your…
/r/seduction01/02/13 06:05 PM
2

Tough one man. Depends on a lot of things, including your socioeconomic status and definition of "fulfilling". I've been dedicated to my career/dreams for the past 15 years. Lots of women have come and gone. The ones who stuck around for a while got sick of being second to my career. They wanted to be first. But guess what? All the women I put first broke up with me within weeks. Go figure, right? Meanwhile, my bills and sleep were being put on the backburner. And as far as gaming goes in the wa…
/r/seduction25/01/13 09:27 PM
1

Not to sound like I'm scoffing at your situation, but this doesn't seem like a problem to me. At least not from my chair. You're 18. What's the rush? Furthermore, as a 30 year old dude, women always want more from me, but I'm honestly focused on my career and whatnot. I'm always breaking hearts somehow no matter how honest and up-front I am with them. I say enjoy it. You're gonna have no problems finding a girl who wants to commit when the time is right.
/r/seduction25/01/13 09:14 PM
2

Dude. That's happened to me MANY times. I smile at girls I'm not interested in all the time because why the fuck not?
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:53 PM
3

Maybe you were too extremely good looking and she was intimidated.
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:52 PM
4

I picture 95-years-old Edgar_Allan_Rich looking back on 30-year old Edgar_Allan_Rich. I know I'd hate myself for not getting pumped up and having fun and taking risks. I'm 30 now and I already look back at high-school me with disappointment. Don't want to let myself down again! Edit: I also read Seddit. It's Friday and here I am getting pumped up!
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:50 PM
2

Yes, it is weird. No, she isn't interested.
/r/seduction24/01/13 11:03 PM
9

"Not when you're talking to dudes, bro man." -Sasha
/r/seduction24/01/13 03:45 PM
2

This may be a bit of rambling, but I have to at least try to help. I was there too man. I'm willing to bet that a great number of us were. In my case I was deeply hurt by a bad breakup and a long, hard road full of failures, straight up lost dreams, and a lot of watching my peers succeed. I could have curled up into a ball and died (which I actually came really close to doing) but eventually I gained enough of an inkling of perspective to start being honest with myself and pick my ass up off the…
/r/seduction22/01/13 04:16 PM
1

Pupils.
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:23 PM
1

I guess it depends on your definition of success.
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:23 PM
1

This is great advice if OP had escalated appropriately, gotten her number on first meet, and asked her out in the followup contact. I too follow up if a chick flakes or doesn't respond, 'cause fuck it, right? She gave me her number! But OP didn't get her number (she lost interest), then he stalked her (deduct a few more points), then he came asking for attention (she's over it completely). Asking for more attention at this point is no good IMO.
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:20 PM
1

Thanks man! Always bear in mind as well...be positive. Always. If you see her out and it's awkward then be cool, polite, and positive. Some guys overdo it and end up becoming drama queens. Good luck!
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:14 PM
1

It really is.
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:09 PM
1

/highseddit is a subreddit devoted to pickup for high schoolers Well I'd say there's a pretty good chance that will be misinterpreted by the masses!
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:05 PM
2

Get her in the front seat. Be explicit about you wanting her in shotgun. Start by playfully nudging her to hand you stuff and then tease her and fuck with her hair and shit.
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:32 AM
3

Dude. She's begging you to ask her out. And from one producer to another, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?! YOU'RE A FUCKING PRODUCER, MAN?! YOU HAVE THE COOLEST JOB IN THE FUCKING WORLD!!! SHE DIGS IT!
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:29 AM
2

Learn from your mistakes. That's the most you'll probably take form this, but it's a great lesson to learn. You're obviously young, so you'll probably see her again sooner than you think, and ultimately it would have been much better had you just waited until the next time you saw her to reach out. Who knows. She may just message you. But whatever you do, until she reaches out to you, be it in person or online, pretend like you never met her. Frankly she's rude for not responding, and it's up to…
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:27 AM
9

No one needs any reason to do anything other than they want to be doing it. You like to dance? Then you're there to dance. No one is going to stop you. Fuck 'em if they try to keep you from having a good time. This is inner game we're talking here. Since you don't like to drink, then you're GOLDEN for day-game my friend. Bars aren't your thing? Great! Go exercise or volunteer or do things that other non-drinkers do. Honestly you're probably better off anyway. Drunk girls can be a headache.
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:17 AM
5

While I agree that most if this is kind of "adult-oriented" subject matter (you should probably be focusing on school anyway, bub!), I think it's all a matter of perspective. Every single person who owns a mobile phone is technically available at all times to be conversed with, and that's pretty much everybody these days. But no one can be on call 24-7. You'll grow to appreciate this more as your responsibilities start to build up, but in this modern age we have to prioritize and filter the cons…
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:13 AM
1

If it makes you feel more comfortable then go it alone. I fly solo a lot. My friends have no game anyway.
/r/seduction21/01/13 11:12 PM
1

I've got one. How do you guys deal with your admitted weaknesses? Like the ones you are working on but haven't conquered yet? I wasn't really given much as a kid so for me its my career and finances. Been busting my ass for a really long time and the returns have been painfully slow. The uphill battle really stabs at my ego. Confidence becomes an issue with certain women sometimes. Tips?
/r/seduction21/01/13 11:10 PM
7

I agree generally with avoiding text unless to set up a date, but it also works for keeping women from completely forgetting about you. Women in other cities, for example, I'll send funny or interesting texts to. They almost always try to start up a conversation afterward, but I try to end the conversation myself. Just kind of a quick, in-and-out flirt. The idea is that you're a busy guy. Text conversations are for children with nothing better to do. You are a busy guy with importat shit going o…
/r/seduction21/01/13 11:05 PM
4

Don't say anything! Gently touch her chin and move it toward your lips and go in. Never fails ever (unless you were kidding yourself and she has no interest or she's socially inept).
/r/seduction20/01/13 08:36 PM
-1

I prefer being alpha enough to get her interested, then suggesting we watch a movie. I just saved myself $4000 and a lot of space. Decent enough advice though.
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:02 PM
3

Prerehearsed jokes? Never. Funny stories maybe, but they'd be my own stories. Naturally funny? People have said I'm naturally funny but I know i's not the case. I simply recognize opportunities for a laugh and try to jump on them without trying too hard. Recognizing the opportunities takes intelligence and a lot of human interaction and perspective. How to work on it? Observe human interaction and saturate your brain with knowledge.
/r/seduction14/01/13 08:24 PM
13

Be sexually interesting. Don't be horribly ugly/smelly Getting laid/impressing women should be a low priority compared to other interests/pass-times to improve your own character and social value. Say less, communicate more...be direct and don't feel the need to express everything that's on your mind. Truly be comfortable with human sexuality, as any man who is ready to get laid should be. Learn how to communicate (through touch/words/face) that you are comfortable around women and aware that wo…
/r/seduction14/01/13 08:01 PM
0

Depends.
/r/seduction14/01/13 07:12 PM
3

Breathe. Pause. Be okay with saying little to nothing until you are ready to say something worth listening to.
/r/seduction14/01/13 07:11 PM
1

It sucks because the part about this being a woman's perspective is completely mute. These are all non-gender-oriented points, most of which are summations of the sidebar. Next time OP posts it would be nice to get some actual female perspective...a new angle on this or something. On the other hand, I'm glad she recognized the good parts about the sub.
/r/seduction12/01/13 05:21 PM
5

Details kill stories though. Only include details that pertain. In fact, leaving out context can make a story so much better. Has anyone ever described their dream to you? It's gut-wrenchingly boring because all dreams are is a series of details with no climax. Or howabout asides to explain family history regarding people you'll never meet? TMI! It's not a novel. It's a story...with a point. Tell the story, but leave out what lead up to the situation at hand. Include the entertaining bits and ge…
/r/seduction11/01/13 04:29 PM
1

Timing is huge, and it starts with the pacing of the conversation and subject matter. Is everyone throwing out funny one-liners about dogs? Then don't expect anyone to want to listen to your depressing, long-winded cat story. Wait until you have a wide opening to start the story. If you start and someone interrupts you, just drop it. The story's dead. (same with jokes...don't tell a joke more than once just to make sure it's heard. That's clearly just you needing attention and it's super dorky.)…
/r/seduction11/01/13 04:22 PM
1

While I doubt anyone here considers me and "advanced" seddit poster, I can assure you that I am advanced with seduction but could care less about reddit flare. I think it's just the nature of the beast that alpha males would pretty much give two fucks total about flare. I agree about the divide and I hate to come across like a dick, but I don't think internet incentives will solve anything here. In fact, internet prizes might degrade the quality of the contributions.
/r/seduction08/01/13 03:51 PM
7

Reasons why you might like her? She's hot. She's not boring. You're a good person and you want to help (or want to be seen as a helper) You feel like you're in control of your life an can use some spontaneity. You relate somehow. You like the challenge You feel like you accomplished something by getting her to open up. You may be supposing some things about her mentality...for example that she may not want a serious commitment. You may have made the horrible, oneitis-inducing mistake of humoring…
/r/seduction07/01/13 02:56 AM
2

You already got through the wall. Kudos. I would have quit and talked to friendlier people. I'm betting it'll be an "easy in" so to speak if you pull the same plays on the date, but I doubt it's worth pursuing as any type of relationship (save friends with benefits). I've dated a few women with issues (not quite that drastic) and it always came down to convincing myself like an idiot that it would be worth it. In reality it was just young, dumb lust taking the reigns. If I was you I'd go for the…
/r/seduction07/01/13 02:43 AM
9

Probably not in this sub.
/r/seduction30/12/12 06:21 PM
2

What a nice guy.
/r/seduction28/12/12 07:27 PM
14

A guy who takes offense to blunt honesty is not worth dating anyway, so fuck him.
/r/seduction28/12/12 07:25 PM
-1

Nope. Being cold just tells us that you have no self-respect, because what kind of girl would want to present themselves that way? Being honest tells us that you are above that teeny-bopper attitude bullshit and that you know what you want.
/r/seduction28/12/12 07:24 PM
9

I play it cool and just chill until something more interesting comes along or until she leaves. Yes, that's correct, I would just just chill next to you until something happens. Fuck it. If I need a fresh drink or a better girl comes by I'll just walk off without saying a word. I don't like to encourage anyone to be rude, and accepting rejection by saying "okay, have a good night" tells her that it's okay to be an awkward bitch. If a girl wants to be a cold bitch she should tell me to fuck off t…
/r/seduction28/12/12 07:21 PM
85

Never any girls but twice with guys: 1) I guess the guy picked up on my game from afar. He was russian and approached me in the bathroom to ask how my set was going, laid down some lingo, then asked if I wanted a wing. I said I'd join him in a few minutes but by then he was already leaving the bar with two HB9's under his arms with a hilarious smile on his face. 2) Another time a guy came to hit on my chicks with his whack-ass man-boy bangbus game. First he asked if we wanted to join him at his …
/r/seduction27/12/12 05:20 PM
2

Never ask if she's interested. And even worse, she's not a bitch. Beta's default to putting her in bitch status, not alphas. You're the bitch.
/r/seduction20/12/12 05:58 PM
3

Pretty solid outline, but much of the content in this thread (comments included) is based off some major assumption about the flake. If you're out to get laid then there's a problem with much of the logic here. There are tons of women out there who flake based on personality...or based on how you asked them out...stoner girls, workaholic girls, shy girls, girls who don't like dates, girls who aren't looking for relationships, etc. Not to mention, chances are that her time may very well be worth …
/r/seduction20/12/12 05:55 PM
5

This reminds me of an episode of a sitcom I saw as a kid. I don't remember if it was Saved by the Bell, or Clarissa Explains It All, or The Wonder Years, but the joke was that a boring, but attractive jock-type had nothing to say on a date so he just kept asking the girl what her 3 favorite things were over and over... "Three favorite movies? Three favorite foods? Three favorite colors?" That's all he had to say and the girl was not having fun. I've kept that little slice of Hollywood with me my…
/r/seduction18/12/12 10:46 PM
2

Take her out for burgers at The Max.
/r/seduction15/12/12 04:53 PM
1

Point one, call her out. Point out that she just made it awkward and tell her it's not going to be any fun as friends (in a lighthearted way). Obviously you've set the situation up to where this is an option, so you've done well leading up to that point. The other option would be to turn her down an don't go. On point two, if you act like doing what you do is a bad thing then she will think you're a bad. That's the fundamental logic.
/r/seduction15/12/12 04:50 PM
4

Nope. The concept is that women are allowed to enjoy sex just as much as men, since they enjoy it just as much as us by nature. Thinking that way would be not only illogical but really misogynistic. And on a more selfish level, what good would that do me?
/r/seduction15/12/12 04:43 PM
62

I'm trying to remember the last time a chick was willing to put my cock in her mouth but wasn't DTF... Solid advice though man!
/r/seduction14/12/12 03:19 PM
3

So many questions, so I'll assume that you haven't hooked up with her or anything and that maybe she's just a friend or friend of a friend... Ask yourself this: Why didn't you "get her" the first time? Probably because you had oneitis. Well you'll remain the guy chasing the girl until you change, because she's already proven that she's willing to walk away and isn't really considering you romantically. Think of it in terms of your perspective vs hers. From both perspectives she has "changed" (mo…
/r/seduction14/12/12 02:36 AM
6

I usually just go masturbate in the men's room a little.
/r/seduction04/12/12 04:28 PM
18

So true. Always important to remember that despite what Hollywood and magazines say, women want it just as bad as we do in general.
/r/seduction03/12/12 02:02 AM
11

Eyes, smile, speech, and kino. By default all people are potential mates based on human sexuality. It's when you throw up signs that you aren't a potential mate that they change how they view you. Being unattractive, seeming insecure about sexuality, and stating boundaries (even when it's unintentional) are all examples of what puts you in the friend category...you don't start there. More specific examples regarding the situation you've set up include using words like "we" and "us" instead of "y…
/r/seduction03/12/12 02:00 AM
2

Yes. I am willing to admit that I am not the man I want to be yet and that I may never be that man, but what matters is that I'm working on it and bagging better and better chicks as I go.
/r/seduction23/11/12 09:44 PM
-1

Can you get a concussion from a facepalm?
/r/seduction21/11/12 02:13 PM
8

There's a 'save' button.
/r/seduction14/11/12 03:16 PM
2

Either tell her to call you when she wants to get real or end communication for a while. Either way she isn't worth your time cause she's a flake.
/r/seduction13/11/12 10:46 PM
2

This could hinge on your definition of dating. My definition of a date is just getting together to spend some time and (most likely) sleep together. I have a fuck buddy or two going on at most times these days along with one or two girls who I would actually introduce my family to. If I considered all get-togethers "dates", whether it be a night out or just sex and a handshake, I could easily "date" 4 women at the same time, especially if I had a well-paying job and no other time commitments! Ri…
/r/seduction02/11/12 03:11 PM
4

I find that if they're truly like that then you don't have to do anything...both of you are in eachothers' league so either they've already given you indicators of DISinterest or you're open to just go for it and see what happens. More often than not though they're just faking it, so you treat them like any other girl who's putting on an act... fuck with them a little and show them how to loosen up.
/r/seduction31/10/12 05:46 PM
1

You keep mentioning "see my post history" about how to work a profile so I did. I found one solid pointer about which questions to answer and that's it. I think I can speak for most of us when I say that we value your field reports, but the OKC part of your OKC threads seems to be thrown the wayside. You seem to be having a lot of online success and I think many people (myself included) would find a lot of value in some details: photos, content, length, vibe, messaging, etc., if you are willing …
/r/seduction24/10/12 04:16 AM
3

I've got two going right now. It's all about how things go in the beginning. Here's how the two went for me: a) Girl A most likely wanted a relationship, but I kept up with her as an every 5-10 days "date" and it escalated very quickly. From there I just never let it get more serious and as long as things didn't get that way, she seemed to warm up to the idea of non-commitment, guaranteed good time and good sex. Right now we refer to each other as friends, but act like bf/gf when we're together.…
/r/seduction24/10/12 03:45 AM
1

Seriously. Last year I walked around with a fake axe and flannel and pulled 3 numbers without even trying. Just don't overthink it and have a great time.
/r/seduction24/10/12 03:10 AM
4

Goldface?
/r/seduction24/10/12 03:04 AM
33

If I haven't spoken to them in a long while I like "what are you wearing?" or "send nudes."
/r/seduction23/10/12 07:54 PM
14

A girl used this on me once.
/r/seduction23/10/12 07:44 PM
3

The skills are very different in my opinion, based on culture and human psychology. Women I'm sexually interested in go into three categories: The ones I pretty much only want to fuck. No more. The ones I'll date but who will never meet my friends and family The ones I like, trust, and respect enough to fully incorporate into my life. If your friend is good looking and doesn't smell like a dead fish, touching my penis as an opener will definitely get her an interview for any of the three positio…
/r/seduction18/10/12 09:02 PM
11

This sounds more like a Stage Acting 101 guide.
/r/seduction15/10/12 07:03 PM
8

I got this line yesterday...only it was "I've got a boyfriend and we've been together for a pretty long time"...and she stuck to her guns until I said "do you like him?". After that I had her attention.
/r/seduction15/10/12 02:08 PM
-8

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction15/10/12 01:43 PM
1

I can give you an example based on my roommate of what NOT to do: My mate is a really nice guy. He's witty and kind and conversational and has money and manners, but he's always trying too hard in conversation. I'll set us up on a double and instead of enjoying himself and playing off the energy of the group he seems to always try to force his anecdotes, his jokes, and his interests into the conversation, rather than going with the flow and letting the current situation be the focus. If it isn't…
/r/seduction15/10/12 01:17 AM
0

DUDE. I hope you don't take offense to this but you sound really beta from where I'm sitting. You say you don't care about being alpha, but you also don't seem to want to be beta. I hope you realize that that makes absolutely no sense, and that's probably why you're so offended by confident people. You have to stand where you stand and pick where you want to be. And by "pick" I don't mean "become a leader" or "choose to be submissive", I mean become independent of the people that bother you and …
/r/seduction11/10/12 04:20 PM
3

Anytime I get shit from a girl or I meet a girl who's being particularly catty or stuck up, I usually do pretty much anything I can to fuck with her. It has never failed at getting her complete attention, and it's awesome at long game. I've had beers thrown in my face, I've been slapped, I've been screamed at...it's fun as shit. And they always end up acting like it never happened. They're friends call me a dick, but usually they're just pissed because they aren't in on the drama.
/r/seduction10/10/12 08:12 PM
6

Grocery store: Look right at her and say "Hey, do you know how to make ______? I have no idea what I'm doing." I usually ask something that nobody would know, like caesar dressing. Yeah, it sound stupid, but the question is obviously kind of a joke on the person saying it because what kind of idiot goes to the store with no recipe and asks strangers how to cook? You clearly aren't expecting a real answer, and that's the point, but to her it's just an interesting situation and you're a guy spicin…
/r/seduction10/10/12 08:04 PM
2

I like it. I also like to think of every life even as something that builds experience points. Because it's actually 100% true.
/r/seduction05/10/12 04:15 PM
2

Apparently Seddit doesn't read the rest of Reddit.
/r/seduction02/10/12 02:09 PM
3

Sounds like random self-help bs I was thinking the same thing, but I think that's okay. A guy who's had no luck with women in the past would be better off reading a general "get your act together" self-help book than a guide directed toward picking up women in the field. This one just happened to slap the nice guy label on the cover. That having been said, just cause we've graduated past seduction 101 doesn't mean we need to knock it.
/r/seduction30/09/12 06:24 PM
6

Then out of nowhere they said "We have boyfriends, so don't get the wrong idea."
/r/seduction29/09/12 12:43 AM
-1

This is possibly the worst advice I've ever read on this forum. Unless it's opposite day and I missed it.
/r/seduction25/09/12 04:46 PM
-1

So true and so sad. 9/10 women are flaky douches but we're just supposed to pretend we don't know that!
/r/seduction22/09/12 03:12 PM
5

Not necessarily. Some guys go for women who are actually worth spending time with. Others go for the quick, in-and-out number grab and a cheap thrill. I think the numbers mentality works out well for the latter option. Put little in, get little out. Also factor in that most numbers guys tend to focus on the hottest women, each of which comes with an extremely high flaky retard factor. That having been said, I don't have a numbers mentality and I never have a problem keeping a few high quality wo…
/r/seduction22/09/12 03:10 PM
13

Are you talking about approaching a girl with "What's the most intense experience you've had in the last 5 years?" Let us know how that one goes.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:33 PM
10

Seriously. Excuses excuses excuses.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:25 PM
2

Spend enough time with "smart" people and you'll realize that they're only any fun when they're acting dumb.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:23 PM
-7

We don't know the fucking answer because we aren't at the fucking party. Facepalm
/r/seduction19/09/12 02:43 PM
2

The fact that you're posting this proves that she is a big deal to you. That's probably a large part of your problem. Women don't really want to be the center of some guys life. Movies just tell them they do. Perhaps you're overly wrapped up in the relationship? Advice: Girlfriend being a narcissistic lame-ass? Maybe it's time you quit focusing on her and focus on someone/something else. Namely you. Focus on something you've always wanted to do and enjoy it. If the problem is really that she has…
/r/seduction13/09/12 09:27 PM
1

I thought you were going to say that it's nice to be able to joke about how hard downward dog is.
/r/seduction11/09/12 01:23 PM
1

I agree that we need to differentiate shyness with introversion. Frankly, the guys I know who talk too much and push themselves onto women do horribly with them, while the introverts just sit back and let the women come to them. It's knowing when to speak that is key.
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:10 PM
0

Are you sure she's "not very forgiving"? Or is that just how you interpreted it to make yourself feel better... Be careful with exes man. Next time the roles could be reversed. Good luck in your journey.
/r/seduction27/08/12 02:45 PM
2

I'm glad someone said it.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:34 AM
2

Actually, seddit fell into a black hole and now we are the cast of Jersey Shore.
/r/seduction15/08/12 03:22 PM
0

Wanna women to like you? READ THE FUCKING SIDEBAR.
/r/seduction15/08/12 03:17 PM
2

Just to clarify...genital herpes and mouth herpes are two different things, but both have been known to cause symptoms of the other. Wiki HSV classification section Interestingly enough, my father has had had HSV1 his entire life but my mom (whom he has been married to for 36 years) has never had so much as a cold sore. I get cold sores all the time.
/r/seduction15/08/12 03:14 PM
2

I thought I was the only one reading the front page.
/r/seduction15/08/12 02:17 PM
4

Take it outside.
/r/seduction15/08/12 02:14 PM
4

If he actually fixed his imbalance by getting healthy then he may be just fine. Sleep, diet, and exercise works wonders. If I was him I would have slowly reduced my meds over the course of a year or two just to be sure.
/r/seduction02/08/12 07:58 PM
1

Fuck your childish friends. Take my advice and board the next bus for West Vaginia without them. Bask in the glow of "I told you so" when you start pulling tail left and right. But don't be tempted to let them in on your action once you've got too many girls to handle. Your dimwitted buddies will just blow it for you the same way my childish friends do when I forget my own rule and let them wing.
/r/seduction31/07/12 04:59 PM
2

I prefer solo. I do it all the time. I have no reliable wings.
/r/seduction31/07/12 04:51 PM
1

Chick at the mall flagged me down to sell me some facial cleanser bullshit. Huge rock on her finger. Asked her out anyway and closed. She told me the same thing. She wears the rock to keep guys from hitting on her. Of course I waited to mention it until I knew I was gonna close and I'm pretty sure my playing it cool helped my game.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:47 AM
2

The way I look at it: a) If we just met, she could be lying because she thinks she's not interested. b) How many real-deal HB8-10's just wander around with no boyfriend, anxiously awaiting a guy to pick them up? Not many. She may jump to some other guy eventually so why not me? c) Her "boyfriend" is probably just the most recent guy to pick her up. How did he do it? And who say's he's some great guy? Odds are he's a total dipshit and she'd be happier with me. d) "I have a boyfriend" is a pretty …
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:43 AM
1

Nope. My only advice would be to start living by your standards. Not anyone else's.
/r/seduction27/07/12 08:41 PM
1

I'm no MD, but if you do happen to have chemical imbalances then therapy obviously isn't going to fix your brain. Only chemistry will. You may need to fix the imbalances through diet/exercise/plenty of sleep, by quitting recreational drugs or curbing your alcohol consumption, or by seeing a doctor about prescriptions. For me it was mixture of all of the above. For you it could be something else entirely. Start with staying healthy. It's cheap. Also, I too am a huge fan of mushrooms, but you you …
/r/seduction25/07/12 03:16 PM
1

haha
/r/seduction25/07/12 02:32 PM
6

Once you have inner game it won't feel like work. For instance, the bit about not driving the interns across town? That's just him being fair to himself and wanting to have fun at a bar. What car-less person is going to have the nerve to argue with him about that? They aren't his children, and what they don't know won't hurt them. The bit about when she's fishing for compliments? Well that sort of thing just gets fucking annoying once you've spent enough time around hot girls, so giving them shi…
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:18 PM
2

Wait...so either you've never even been in the presence of a hot chick or you're a troll, because this is obviously good advice either way. Of maybe you have severe disabilities or something. Either way just GTFO.
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:05 PM
6

OP's points shouldn't be considered rules to follow, they should be considered standard procedure for being fair to one's self and having fun. It shouldn't be considered work to think that way. You won't have to worry about it once you have inner game. Take my words with a grain of salt because I actually don't really believe much in love these days, but people with options are pretty much always going to pick the best one. Most hot girls have daddy's money and are coddled and fawned over and th…
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:00 PM
11

If you're getting blown out to the point that other people are taking notice then you should probably go to another location entirely.
/r/seduction19/07/12 02:54 PM
1

Dude. That's like asking us what the color red looks like. If someone can truly answer this or even has a good resource then I will be flabbergasted, but here's my attempt: What do you find funny? What do you laugh at when you are with yourself? Do you laugh? If you aren't the kind of guy who likes to laugh then don't even attempt to be funny IMO. You'll just come across as a creep. I know people like that. shudder Sorry, but you have to be quick witted to be funny, and it helps to be really int…
/r/seduction18/07/12 10:12 PM
1

Yes. Never been happier, and I actually prefer to spend my time alone. I have many wonderful women in my life to spend time with/hook up with whenever I want. I am actually having difficulty keeping them satisfied as of late, as I prefer focusing on my interests, goals, and self improvement. Big change from the person I used to be. Does being successful with women make me more happy? Yes. I am delighted by the fact that women check me out and want my attention even when I'm doing something as mu…
/r/seduction18/07/12 04:59 PM
1

I'd like to see him perform those lines without a mic. Now that would be amusing.
/r/seduction17/07/12 10:11 PM
2

Oh, and if you are going into some shitty ass degree field, save yourself the 80K in debt. Pick something that will actually make you employable, too many people go into fields for a bachelors that don't pay fucking anything. This. There are many women to be had after college, but they'd rather date a guy who can afford to go on dates :)
/r/seduction13/07/12 08:01 AM
18

Move quickly. Guys who beat around the bush lose out and get friend-zoned. You will be meeting so many women it isn't even funny. Make your intentions known from the get-go and move as fast as they are comfortable moving. Press for dates and meetups and go for k-closes fast. Don't pass on opportunity. I thought the people I met the first year would stick around our group all four years. Some did, but definitely not all of them. I figured I'd have time to let them warm up to me. See above. Be a g…
/r/seduction13/07/12 07:55 AM
9

Downward dog after a full workout makes me feel like I'm going to have a heart attack.
/r/seduction10/07/12 08:31 PM
8

Own your age man. Fuck. You're only 36. Doing what you want is part of the game. If you don't think the young ones are worth your time then find an older crowd type of club.
/r/seduction06/07/12 08:07 PM
1

Are you a male or a softball player?
/r/seduction06/07/12 08:02 PM
6

They don't think it be like it is but it do.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:55 PM
0

Edgar_Allan_Rich: "Hey HeatDeathIsCold, do you want a drink?" HeatDeathIsCold: "Yes." Edgar_Allan_Rich: "Great!" Goes to bar, buys himself drink HeatDeathIsCold: "Where's my drink?" Edgar_Allan_Rich: "Oh, I was only asking if you wanted one."
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:53 PM
1

English must not be your first language... Ask if she wants a drink "Would you like a drink?" "Do you want a drink?" "Drink?" That's an offer to buy a fucking drink. In this country the U.S., if you asked me that question...I answered "yes"...and then you didn't buy me a drink, I'd tell the bartender to put it on your tab. Or maybe just punch you the mouth.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:41 PM
4

My reasoning is that the drink situations is your #1 opportunity to state your stance in the blossoming "relationship". If she asks/tells you to buy her a drink, this is your opportunity to be witty, fun, firm, and to show that you are comfortable saying "no". Tell her it's her idea so she should buy you a drink. If she tells you to piss off then fuck her anyway. If you play it cool she'll probably be craving your attention all night because you don't need her. If she asks if you want to "get a …
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:36 PM
11

How do you stop worrying about the "creepy" stereotype? Don't be a creep. No matter what you do, some bitch will always jump to conclusions and assume you're a creep at some point in your life, so learn to let it go and have fun.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:04 PM
8

Edit: If you are confused about how the hell you're supposed to dance with a girl without rubbing your penis on her: work on that first and then come back to this subreddit when you've figured that out. FTFY
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:00 PM
2

I haven't even been reading it's gotten so bad. I figured I'd tapped this forum's resources. Thanks for saying something.
/r/seduction06/07/12 01:57 PM
2

I play with my hair when I'm trying to concentrate. Could it really be so black and white between males and females? Has that been studied I wonder?
/r/seduction03/07/12 03:23 PM
3

You just blew my mind.
/r/seduction03/07/12 03:20 PM
6

I'll also add that tasteful sexual jokes can help. Don't act like some giggity giggity goofball that never gets laid. Be confident and fun with intelligent or "dumb" jokes. For example, I spent a couple nights working up a shy girl and I joked about a prom themed party she went to. I said that she's lucky because not everybody gets a do-over on losing their v-card (or something like that). Say what you will about my amazing comedy act; it let her know that I see sex as something casual enough to…
/r/seduction02/07/12 09:48 PM
11

women will always forgive a guy for trying too fast but never forgive for not trying at all. Some of the best advice I've ever read in this forum right there. I wish I could give more upvotes. Don't go around groping people, but NEVER be afraid of the word 'no'.
/r/seduction02/07/12 09:25 PM
42

She would like you to buy her a drink.
/r/seduction02/07/12 07:06 PM
45

Go collect some data. With your penis. Congratulations, that's your new tag!
/r/seduction29/06/12 02:12 PM
1

Lots. And the ones that want to go on a formal date first are almost always down that night (second meetup) for me.
/r/seduction29/06/12 02:09 PM
2

That's hilarious. Do this.
/r/seduction27/06/12 08:01 PM
1

Katy Perry DEFINITELY wants you to whip it out.
/r/seduction27/06/12 07:58 PM
2

You can definitely still find keepers at a bar just like anywhere else. The problem is ultimately that there are just not that many keepers out there in general, whether it be at the grocery store or church or the park, especially once you get to a point in your life where you are successful, confident, and happy with yourself. People in general are just too different. Also, realize that people go where their interests lie. Be honest with yourself. Why are you going to clubs? And no, it's not th…
/r/seduction27/06/12 07:37 PM
15

whip...out...dong. Got it.
/r/seduction26/06/12 02:14 PM
2

My game improved tremendously when I started drinking less. If you can kick it then I don't think you'll miss it brother.
/r/seduction25/06/12 04:59 PM
1

Nude texts. Got laid by two different girls, but the texts win because this girl knows better.
/r/seduction25/06/12 04:41 PM
2

Don't text her again until she texts you back. If you never get a text back then call her with something to do. If that doesn't work out then I'd ignore her I wouldn't contact her until the next time you run into her out in public or end up at the same party or something, at which point you will demonstrate that you have lost interest, which resets things and can work to your advantage if you play it cool.
/r/seduction25/06/12 04:33 PM
2

She sounds like a waste of space to me. Good on you man.
/r/seduction20/06/12 02:10 AM
3

"Lady" is just...a terrible word.
/r/seduction19/06/12 05:20 AM
6

Hey neon_black, the 1995 store called and they're running out of YOU!
/r/seduction16/06/12 10:48 PM
2

Very nice post! For future reference it's spelled "picnic". Don't wan't some girl calling you out now ;) Have fun on your dates!
/r/seduction16/06/12 10:43 PM
22

SD-close (successful divorce close, where you've had a kid together, realized it wasn't really meant to be, but remain friends even after the money and lawyers)
/r/seduction14/06/12 02:46 PM
0

I agree with everybody else that you simply met an attention whore and that you should just shake it off and not sweat it. Get used to it actually. The better you get the more you'll learn to either capitalize or juke them depending on your preference. I met one on Sunday actually. This chick seemed like a 10. Gorgeous. Fit. Super cool. Totally fun. Witty. Smart. Flirty. A total perv. A total tease. Touchy. She drank good beer. And to top it off she was wearing sweat pants in a bar to a birthday…
/r/seduction13/06/12 09:54 PM
3

Didn't we just discuss this line last week?
/r/seduction13/06/12 09:26 PM
2

Frankly I'd rather not subscribe to /r/sex but I found this post interesting.
/r/seduction13/06/12 02:51 PM
1

This man knows his condoms.
/r/seduction13/06/12 02:49 PM
2

IM NOT A HOMO YOURE A HOMO
/r/seduction13/06/12 02:48 PM
1

Start giving her life advice. Ask to meet her friends and family. Take her shopping. Hold her purse. Buy her drinks. Call her all the time just to talk. Maybe cry a little. You know, just be a forever alone nice guy!
/r/seduction12/06/12 02:39 AM
1

You should try being a teacher sometime. Not a preachy internet teacher, but a real teacher. See how alpha you feel when you shit on the weak kid who cries because he can't figure something out, or because he can't lift the bar but he's out there trying. Actually. Please don't.
/r/seduction08/06/12 03:52 PM
4

Because he's selling himself as a teacher. What if your teachers thought of you that way growing up? What if their attitudes were: "For every smart kid I teach I have to 'baby' 5 struggling kids, ugh. I only like teaching smart kids because it's easy." Fucking beta as hell. Anyone who doesn't realize that is better off without him as a teacher.
/r/seduction07/06/12 03:56 PM
0

That's a pretty beta attitude to be coming from a teacher of game. Fuck that guy. It's a wonder he has anything to teach at all.
/r/seduction07/06/12 02:56 PM
21

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT hang out at the Algiers' mini-bar and befriend a local contractor named Steve. Do not let him take you to The Peppermill. Do let him buy you a prostitute, but do not let him buy too many rounds of White Russians. Then, whatever you do, do not let him parade you around to all the local strip joints until you find one he's allowed into, and then lose track of time and reality. If you do this, you will end up running for your life at 11am because you should have included St…
/r/seduction05/06/12 05:51 PM
1

What would you have said/done?
/r/seduction04/06/12 09:52 PM
5

You just blew my mind.
/r/seduction04/06/12 09:32 PM
3

And handsome!
/r/seduction04/06/12 09:28 PM
1

Just a 12 pack. Most people had their own beer so they didn't take me up on the offer. I had 4 left over that I gave away at the end of the night actually.
/r/seduction04/06/12 02:46 PM
1

I definitely questioned that regarding the boat party. Keep in mind that it was a public facebook event that you had to buy tickets for...not a personal invite like a birthday party. I figured I'd rather look like a secure guy with flaky friends than a clingy creeper with no friends when I started meeting people, so I strait up told people that my friends flaked on me. Most people there knew each other and came with friends, so they had their little groups. I think everyone's been in my situatio…
/r/seduction04/06/12 02:44 PM
1

I haven't every really considered my breathing. That is really solid advice man. Thank you. And you're right. My legs almost never feel tired. Tight? Yes. Tired? No. Awesome. I can't way to try it.
/r/seduction01/06/12 02:13 PM
4

Here's how I look at it: Flaky people have no respect for themselves or others, making them shitty people. Shitty people are only good for one thing, and are otherwise a waste of my time. From there, I basically treat them like the people I know them to be. I'm never rude or anything. I just only give them my time and energy when I'm horny or want something from them, because they have chosen to be worth only that much. Generally, if a girl directly lies to me about a meetup and then flakes, I e…
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:36 PM
3

Based on what I read... how do I handle bitchy/shit-testy girls like in the first set? You could have risked your night by sticking around longer. Once you were in with the friends they could have warmed up to you. If its just to close, I tend to give the bitchy ones a little intelligent attitude in return, in a fun way of course, and then ignore them a little. Tends to grab their interest like nobody's business. Works great for short game, but not necessarily for making friends. What should I h…
/r/seduction30/05/12 07:19 PM
1

Again, a simplistic and naive outlook in my opinion. But a very positive one! I hope you never get cheated on my friend, but here I think we'd better agree to disagree.
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:48 PM
1

I say spend time with the ones you enjoy being with.
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:32 PM
1

Everybody's a better person than that last person who cheated on you. Similarly... We're all good until we do something bad.
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:31 PM
2

You guys should continue. I'm enjoying this.
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:14 PM
1

You kind of got me there...I'm totally attracted to the crazy ones as well. But sometimes it's just...too much, you know? It's a total mind fuck. It's part of why I'm enjoying seduction though. Seduction has drawn my attention to much more stable women for whatever reason.
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:10 PM
1

I smoke, so that's why I couldn't run far at first. Once I was able to run pretty far, I'd take a 3-5 minute break to smoke a cigarette, then continue running. Okay. Not only did this totally crack me up, it also makes me feel like a total fuck up (I know that's not what you intended). I have never been able to break more than 2 miles, even with a good mindset. Parts of my body start to bind up and physically stop moving before I get to that point! And here you are, smoking a goddamn cigarette i…
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:02 PM
1

That's a cop-out answer. And it almost saddens me that this subreddit is naive enough to upvote it so highly. It's a great sentiment though. And a positive one!
/r/seduction25/05/12 01:55 PM
0

Can that really kill people that easily? Honest question. That's always been my go-to defense (never had to use it yet, but after having taken a very short krav-maga course, it seemed like a pretty quick takedown move).
/r/seduction24/05/12 04:16 AM
3

As Mr Jizzblaster said. It's because you're treating him as an equal. I've found that even with aggressive guys, the more you get to know them, the less intimidating they become. Show them that you're not scared and that you're legit, feel them out, and then move in if you feel it's appropriate.
/r/seduction24/05/12 04:14 AM
2

And whose to say it would have worked out had you played her game? Once she got your attention she may have turned the cold on.
/r/seduction22/05/12 10:05 PM
115

The crazies and the cheaties. They both really bother me. I had a girl try to cheat on her new fiance' with me once...a guy I had actually gone out drinking with a few times...and then when I wouldn't budge she preceded to start stripping on my lap in front of people and acting like I should feel guilty about NOT fucking her. Fucking insane! They lasted about 3 months. Then she got fake tits and became a "model".
/r/seduction22/05/12 10:02 PM
2

Exes being less than trustworthy contributed to my interest in seduction, so no, not really. You may get cheated on. You may get left. There is nothing you can do about it besides be a better person.
/r/seduction21/05/12 03:13 PM
2

It's all about the people you find value in and surround yourself with. "Partying" has higher value in college for various reasons, so it becomes decreasingly accepted as people mature and move into new stages in their lives. I did college in my hometown and stuck around after graduation to follow my passions and get by with the best jobs I could score. Hell yeah, the parties are still there, just not with the same people. I turned 30 in March and last Saturday I went to a punk-rock house party …
/r/seduction18/05/12 04:30 PM
3

it's ridiculously easy to take advantage of drunk immature girls. FTFY
/r/seduction11/05/12 09:30 PM
1

Here's how I think of it: If everything you're saying is actually true, then either you haven't worked as hard as her to be the person you want to be, or she's simply had an easier life than you. Most of the people I know who travel and have lots of hobbies and hot bodies and huge social networks are pretty much just daddy's money rich kids...but not all of them. Either way, somebody here is of lower value than the other. Is it you or is it her?
/r/seduction11/05/12 08:40 PM
0

would you guys think differently of a girl who is posting her pictures all over the place? Personally I'd immediately quit wanting to get with her. She would immediately get filed in the cabinet labeled 'bat shit fucking crazy' under the title 'self-esteem issues', and I'd move on to someone who doesn't require that type of attention. Nothing but trouble.
/r/seduction11/05/12 07:57 PM
2

Absolute worst advice I've ever read on the internet.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:41 PM
3

If a girl gives you her number, in no way does that mean she has to answer your call, or speak to you whatsoever. Why give it out then? If she had respect for herself or others she wouldn't have given out the number if she didn't want to give it out. Not answering just makes her a bitch. This is is socializing 101.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:39 PM
4

I would love to watch a comedy that's more sophisticated than Arrested Development. Seriously, give me a list of shows.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:19 PM
3

Go to the ER immediately.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:18 PM
1

That's a pretty high bar to set for a 7 or 8 in my town.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:17 PM
1

You must have already done something wrong to irk her. If you had done everything right she would have associated you with fun, excitement, and positivity and would never have taken it the wrong way. Or she's an overly sensitive person who is a waste of time. This is fundamental to text game.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:15 PM
6

Not for me.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:08 PM
0

No it doesn't.
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:03 PM
2

"you forgot to hit send" has worked for me. I'm gonna use yours!
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:02 PM
1

I found number 4 interesting: Never seek your value at the expense of someone else's. When we're feeling devalued, our reactive instinct is to do anything to restore what we've lost. Devaluing the person who made you feel bad will only prompt more of the same in return. I never would have gotten over any of my exes had I not devalued them. I never would have had the balls to take on most of the challenges I've faced in my life had I not devalued my competition. I don't think I outwardly projecte…
/r/seduction03/05/12 03:03 PM
1

Nice narrative bookended with blog advertisements, bro.
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:40 AM
2

A chick I was trying to pick up pulled that on me the other day...said she was a ninja. Looking back, it really kept me wondering about her.
/r/seduction12/04/12 05:18 PM
2

You broke some very basic rules man. Keep working on the basics but good job! Here's what you did wrong: She sees me, and I see her, but don't say anything. She sits opposite me, and I notice she keeps smiling to herself. This is oh so very important. If I was only allowed to give guys one piece of advice for the rest of my life it would be this: Women like guys who move quickly because it shows confidence, assertiveness, spontaneity, and that you know what you want. They are very turned off by …
/r/seduction09/04/12 04:41 PM
3

First off (maybe I'm taking your post too literally), depending on the age of the women we're talking about here, lots of them just don't dial phones and use their vocal chords these days. I basically never get actual calls back. Most chicks let me go to voicemail and then immediately text me back. It's weird but I got used to it. Work on your text game. Not much detail here, and I understand the brevity of your post, but here are a few rhetorical questions for you: Maybe it's simply timing? You…
/r/seduction07/04/12 04:14 AM
1

I hear you. I recently met the most politically gung-ho guy ever. He was literally running around the bar asking people about who they were voting for this year and then explaining to them why they should vote for so and so. He was just out having a good time on a Friday night, but he was also charged up about the election. He was a really nice guy and he invited me to an after party. Despite thinking he was kind of a wacko I gifted him the book and some fancy beer because I was impressed with t…
/r/seduction06/04/12 09:02 PM
1

I'm looking for a bf or a fling or just a guy who likes me back Be specific. What is your real goal? Aim for it and be realistic about how you will achieve that goal. If you hit one of the other two targets on the way then great, but always have a clearly defined, ideal goal. That advice pretty much applies to everything in life. I can't even find anyone new to find interest in. I find that hard to believe coming from a high-schooler, but slumps happen I guess. I'm betting you just haven't taken…
/r/seduction06/04/12 06:54 PM
2

I keep two copies so I can gift it to people on a moment's notice. Seriously. It's the best $7 you could spend on someone and it's a respectful way to say you appreciate them.
/r/seduction06/04/12 05:42 PM
1

"Yep. And now that you mention it, you're paying."
/r/seduction27/03/12 09:45 PM
1

Insert any answer you want and then smile while looking her in the eyes. The answer to this question only matters if you haven't made your intentions clear from the beginning.
/r/seduction27/03/12 09:40 PM
1

Play the situation. Answer her however you want. This is how I'd do it: If I knew I had her attention for a second (I would never do this "on the go" obviously), after getting her in a lighthearted, joking mood I'd wait for a pause in conversation. Then I'd probably grab her hand or put my arm around her and physically make sure she was looking me in the eyes and say the line with a slight smile...and just stare for a few seconds. And then when she gives me the look of "uh, what?" or whatever sh…
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:39 PM
34

Quit trying to memorize the text and focus on the concepts. It's like math...you don't memorize the numbers in thousands of examples of an equation, you memorize the variables and plug in the numbers as they are handed to you.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:13 PM
2

Apply them immediately after reading...when you aren't out in the field. Mental practice. Study. Play the scenarios through in your head. Envision your favorite boss actor doing it to get with a woman in a movie, then replay that in your head and replace yourself doing it. Eventually you'll get to the point where documenting the tactic and recalling the tactic become second nature and remembering isn't even a question. I have been told I have an active imagination but it works for me and I can p…
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:07 PM
-8

I would try to avoid shy girls if I was you. For me they are a waste of time. Don't confuse shy for introverted though. They're different. From my experience the introverts will be coy under most circumstances but will really appreciate you taking the reigns in a relationship. Act like you would around anyone else. If they like you they'll just tell you when they do or do not want to proceed and they'll be clear about it (a date, a kiss, sex, whatever). Shy girls on the other hand tend to just s…
/r/seduction20/03/12 06:39 PM
2

Why is she doing this? you most likely already answered that yourself: she wants to see if I'm dying inside If she cheated on you then you gotta make sure she realizes she did wrong. You gave her the boot, moved on, met other women, and I assume you're happy about that decision. She needs to get that message. "Living well is the best revenge" is something I once read on Reddit, and it's so true. Do whatever it takes to send out the message that you're doing great without her. "I've moved on. Ple…
/r/seduction14/03/12 08:55 PM
1

I am currently working on a girl who "just got back together with her ex". She's in a class of mine and we were sitting next to each other prior to this news. I acted like nothing happened. The next day I came in and sat next to her and flirted and walked her to her car just like always. The date I asked her on still stands "in case he messes it up again". So for the past couple weeks I just keep reminding her about our dinner plans and asking if he's blown it yet. She laughs and flirts with me …
/r/seduction13/03/12 09:36 PM
13

I feel like I have less value when a girl hooks up with a guy who I perceive as being inferior to me, after I've already f-closed. Are you saying that, for the rest of your life, every girl you've ever fucked who later fucks a loser is going to make you feel like less of a man? Jesus dude, you need to get over that pronto! You can't control what others do or who others are attracted to. You can only be as badass as you can be and do your best to get what you want when you want it. If anything, S…
/r/seduction08/03/12 03:55 PM
1

From my experience, because they don't get hit on by as many guys (short guys aren't interested maybe?), they tend to be more humble and approachable than shorter girls. But this comes with the caveat that they are generally looking for taller men to sleep with. None of these factors have ultimately gotten in the way for me and I don't even consider height anymore unless I'm looking to fulfill my fleeting tall girl fetish.
/r/seduction07/03/12 05:28 PM
1

Don't surround yourself with people when you go out. An alpha male will have no problem with the people hovering around you, but average guys will be intimidated if you wall yourself off. Edit: Plus, walling yourself off makes it look like you aren't interested in meeting people.
/r/seduction06/03/12 10:32 PM
2

nobody gets your sarcasm. Next time make the /s BOLD I guess.
/r/seduction06/03/12 10:28 PM
2

Why in the world would you want your friends girlfriend to know about seduction anyways? I may not have been clear. I wouldn't want my friend's gf to know about seduction, and she isn't interested in knowing, but she does claim to want to "be my wingwoman". Many of my female friends offer to be my "wingwomen", only they aren't into seduction. They think it just means "lets go out and drink and I'll point out cute girls" or whatever. I'm not interested in wings at all actually, but I have humored…
/r/seduction01/03/12 04:49 AM
2

I think that may be a little presumptuous. If someone is interested in pick-up then it would be a breeze, but I'm not gonna sit my friend's girlfriend down and try to morph her into a wingwoman when all she wants to do is introduce me to other women. It would just be uncouth.
/r/seduction01/03/12 04:24 AM
1

Unfortunately all wingwoman have ever done is slow me down. I wish I could meet one that understands "seduction" because I am not about to sit down and explain it, haha.
/r/seduction29/02/12 08:48 PM
1

Ignoring can back fire big time. Yep. Ignoring will just keep her interested. If you think its a good idea keep her on the back burner...hook up with other girls in front of her. Good call. I just went through this exact scenario and I figured she'd never call again, but she checked in a few days later with a friendly, open-ended message. We had a short exchange, and I haven't heard back since. So yeah, it sounds like she's placed nicely on the back burner!
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:06 PM
13

Reverse the roles. How would you want her to do this to you? If it were me I would want it to be in the form of a clear, no grey areas, blunt statement, such as "I am not interested in you romantically. If we are still going to see each other it will just be as friends." It'll probably break her little heart but just be a man about it. After that just be firm in your commitment and you won't have any problems. Edit: Of course if she has cute friends and you want to be a manipulative bastard you …
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:56 PM
1

A GRAND KUDOS FOR YOU NEW SEXY MAN-BEAST.
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:02 AM
3

I'm just really good at reading people and I can tell you this stuff only applies if you are in the cast of a bad soap opera.
/r/seduction24/02/12 03:48 PM
8

I've tried saying I'm not interested If you are actually telling these dudes you aren't interested but they are pursuing you anyway you have every right to do whatever the fuck you want.
/r/seduction21/02/12 04:11 PM
4

She's just one of those shitty people who lacks respect for herself and others.
/r/seduction21/02/12 03:59 PM
1

what to do when a girl doesn't respond to your text message after a #close. Seems pretty obvious to me. Edit: Gotta love downvotes because dudebros can't read good.
/r/seduction21/02/12 05:15 AM
9

I also interpret it as "I'm not giving up by the way." which has gotten me into bed with a surprising amount of chicks. Unfortunately that is more of a line you use to make a girlfriend though.
/r/seduction21/02/12 05:10 AM
8

It says in the foreword that the best approach is to read the book twice!
/r/seduction20/02/12 11:25 PM
2

Just chill at the bar and more than likely someone will talk to you. Drunks love to do that. If you are truly getting rejected over your looks then perhaps your standards to too high. Don't get me wrong, everyone should always aim high, but lowering your standards for practice while working on your weight could help. In college I didn't even have to try and I would date the hottest women I could find. Then I got fat and that stopped pretty quick. Now I just have to accept that I won't be banging…
/r/seduction20/02/12 11:24 PM
8

This is also excellent as one of the best ways to get people to like you without them realizing why is to let them help you with something.
/r/seduction20/02/12 09:04 PM
17

Everyone read this book.
/r/seduction20/02/12 09:03 PM
2

Embrace it. Just stand there in silence and if it's too much just look a them and smile. Everyone knows this feeling, including the person you're hitting on.
/r/seduction20/02/12 09:01 PM
7

Start can be anything, but generally I wait until there's a minutia of substance before I approach otherwise it tends to be a waste of time for me (I'm no Adonis). But to keep the conversation going I change the subject frequently using questions. Have you ever seen that scene from the 40-year-old-virgin where they tell him just to go ask questions and that's all he does? Well the truth is that that actually works for a multitude of reasons. And by "change the subject" I don't mean go from dogs …
/r/seduction20/02/12 09:00 PM
2

Well if your biggest problem is truly just a feeling of rejection then you've got it easy and the solutions is simple: keep trying. It may sound like something out of a bad self-help book but it is absolutely true that everyone fails until they succeed. So why do you think you are being rejected? And are you actually being rejected or are you making that up in your head? It happens a lot. woman going to bars alone is construed badly No it isn't. Quit thinking this way. You are there because you …
/r/seduction20/02/12 03:42 PM
1

In music school we were taught to relax our faces because we hold tension there. A relaxed face is a very mild smile, lips closed but jaw loose, with slightly squinted eyes, eyebrows doing nothing. Basically if you can feel a muscle in your face doing anything at all then you are not relaxed. Once you have achieve total relaxation you will have a nice friendly smile going that will be inviting to anyone. One way to achieve this is to stretch all the muscles in your face by making crazy faces and…
/r/seduction20/02/12 06:14 AM
2

I hear you. Maybe this could help: First impressions are everything, and that's why it is important to look your best, act your best, and actually be your best when you meet people. If people ask you what you do then have something interesting to say. If your job sucks, find a better job. DO THINGS! If you want to buy someone a drink, make sure you have the money to do so. Keep your apartment clean. Go experience things so you will have something to talk about. Do things you can be proud of and …
/r/seduction20/02/12 05:58 AM
2

Then forget over-analyzing your smile. You need to get your life together and build some confidence!
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:41 AM
2

perfect.
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:28 AM
-1

If you aren't honestly feeling the urge to smile when you make eye contact then it isn't going to work out. You should know how to smile based on the situation and not try to fake it. If you aren't the type to smile when you see something you like then do what you would naturally do. Approach him. Touch him. Cheers him. Squint your eyes. Whatever. Most girls give me these particular eyes and this kissy-face/posture even from a couple feet distance, as if throwing out a homing beacon to reel me i…
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:26 AM
1

Been texting #1 all day while she's at work. Got her to send pictures (none were dirty though, damn!) and she agreed to meet up this week. She also apologized for leaving me hanging last night. So, yeah, I agree!
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:14 AM
1

For V-day? It took us a few tries to find one but when we did it was REALLY crowded.
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:13 AM
2

Touch their hands. Drinking less works great for me. Go out on Valentine's day. Tables of sweet innocent girls and AFC's make great coat-checks.
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:05 AM
1

You know you're right. Plus I had already established that last night was the last time we'd be able to get together for a couple weeks so that was kind of in the plan. She's going out of town, I'm busy, etc.
/r/seduction19/02/12 11:59 PM
1

Most girls called them lizards, dolphins, etc. #hilarious
/r/seduction19/02/12 07:05 PM
1

didn't think of it until right before go-time. sorry man!
/r/seduction19/02/12 07:04 PM
1

Nothing as long as that's not their introduction speech! ;D
/r/seduction16/02/12 02:21 PM
1

I only go out on average once a week, but like top comment guy Im always in the mindset. Shit, it's the same mindset that helps me get gigs (musician), jobs, and other opportunities, so why the hell not? But I'll tell you this much, if I up that to 2,3,or 4 times a week, it just gets better and better (critical mass), because I meet more people which turns into more opportunities to meet more people, etc. etc... Sarging often makes the whole easier if you can manage it reasonably.
/r/seduction15/02/12 11:09 PM
1

Bitches love slapping.
/r/seduction15/02/12 06:03 PM
2

I'm bipolar II (waaaay more down than up). I used to be naturally successful with women, probably because I was a young handsome musician, then I let life and my illness get the best of me. It took a while but now I'm back again. Focus on getting yourself together at least as much as you do trying to pick up women. The women aren't important, and getting your shit together will help you get them when you're ready. Being mentally grounded, alert, and clear-headed makes it a breeze to pick up wome…
/r/seduction15/02/12 05:34 PM
1

In my opinion you can say whatever you want to follow the introduction, but if they don't want to talk they just won't. If you want to keep fighting the uphill battle though, you'd better have a lot of material to follow up with and be ready for it to go nowhere. For example, I was at a party last night with a bonfire and there was an HB9 sitting around chatting with some female friends. I walked up to them and just said "So, who are you guys? I'm Derp." and she got a surprised look on her face …
/r/seduction13/02/12 05:22 PM
4

What cues are to be had from someone you have never spoken to? None. What chemistry is there between two people who barely know one another? Little. Do people tell you what's on their minds if it isn't in their best interests? Rarely. Unfortunately, due to how socially inept we have all become, your viewpoint is way too idealistic considering how often guys want to get laid. Basically what you suggest is that we go with the flow while letting the women conduct the progress of the relationship. A…
/r/seduction13/02/12 04:49 PM
1

The fact that you have to ask is sad! What has happened to our society?! TELL THEM THE TRUTH.
/r/seduction13/02/12 02:34 PM
1

I am now convinced that you have downs syndrome and have tagged you accordingly.
/r/seduction07/02/12 03:22 PM
3

That could be a fun exercise...try to meet a wingman and then both go get laid.
/r/seduction07/02/12 04:45 AM
15

Totally! Love it. Sometimes chatting up a dude is the catalyst for chatting everyone else up.
/r/seduction05/02/12 09:07 PM
1

done. She's tall too. This could get good.
/r/seduction05/02/12 08:37 PM
1

she either has sexual interest in you or she doesn't. Her mind is already made up, you can't trick her into wanting to have sex with you. Wait, is this r/seduction or isn't it? There is absolutely 100% a way to turn it around. It just aint EASY. No offense, but I am starting to doubt your cred here. My point is that I haven't had the chance to turn one around...not that I'm some forever alone who pines over one girl or something...obviously I could just bow out and move on at any time. I do very…
/r/seduction04/02/12 09:01 AM
1

Riiiiiiiiight.
/r/seduction02/02/12 10:48 PM
4

I'm a dude, but if it makes you feel any better any time I see a confident dude with scarring on his face from bad acne I always consider him to be extra badass because he overcame something I didn't. Plus I think of this guy.
/r/seduction02/02/12 05:39 PM
1

Still waiting for my chance to turn a friend-zone around. Until I succeed in this I will most certainly consider it "not so simple" and quite a challenge.
/r/seduction31/01/12 11:27 PM
2

I have to point out that most seduction tactics run a little deeper (for lack of a better word) psychologically than the whole "I respect a person for their brain" thing. Not to speak for the entire community here, but what ThrowlikeShurikan and OP may or may not be missing is that seduction tip-toes right around physical attractiveness, clothes, money, credentials, brains, interesting stories, etc, and has a person wanting to sleep with you without them even realizing it. And, for the record, I…
/r/seduction31/01/12 11:23 PM
3

You may be trolling, but you're definitely in the wrong subreddit if you aren't interested in reading walls of text. Try the main page. Plenty of one-liners and imgur links there.
/r/seduction31/01/12 10:43 PM
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Unfortunately one of the reasons I got into self improvement/seddit is because of this exact phenomenon. I know tons of people, most of which expect more of me than they are capable of giving back, and it became a very difficult issue to deal with as time went on. Of course it's my own fault they've come to expect a lot from me, as this is how I've presented myself all these years; I was overly generous, caring, loving, and outwardly focused. Self improvement/seddit has helped me cope with this …
/r/seduction31/01/12 10:34 PM
1

Exactly the type of simple fun I'm going for, but maybe more of a logic game that you would play with a smarter girl. I'm still working on it and I will share if I come up with anything solid.
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:37 PM
2

I prefer laying her on a blanket or tarp and dragging. It's easier on the back and helps soak up the blood.
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:20 AM
1

Everything posted thus far is gold. I'd like to add that touching is more accepted in certain situations. Fun situations, hell yeah, no holds barred unless they, well, bar you. Day game is different and that is where you need an "excuse" or game or something. Once that threshold has been breached though, you're good. No matter what though, make sure the touch is CONFIDENT. A half-ass touch is a sign of nervousness that will be interpreted negatively without her actually thinking about it.
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:17 AM
3

how likely is it to meet a girl, make her interested within a few hours, and then sleep with her on the same day/night, even for those with mad game? Very likely if you play your cards right. 1) How do you send a clear signal to a girl within minutes of meeting her that you're not interested in anything except a one-night-stand? Don't give her any reason at all to take you seriously, and make her comfortable. Don't ask her about her life. Don't seek approval. Touch her a lot and Just. Have. Fun.…
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:14 AM
3

As a guy doing this very thing, I have one thing to say. Squats are hard.
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:06 AM
2

I told a woman last week that "I...don't like to commit" to which she replied, "oh, so you're a player huh?". I smiled, moved forward, got her number, met up with her and closed the deal. I think she was married O_o
/r/seduction23/01/12 05:04 AM
2

Maybe you looked like less of a rapist than the guy behind you so she took you home for protection. Flattered?
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:28 PM
0

Don't hate the game, hate the player.
/r/seduction17/01/12 09:12 PM
4

I'm no "I get laid 17 times a week guy", and all I have to go on is the words you wrote and the picture I now have in my mind, but here's my take. Sorry, but it's kind of brutal: You tried to pull individual women, one by one, out of a fun, group environment, and in doing so you turned your intentions from positive to negative in their minds. It could just be the way you wrote the FR, but it sounds like you attached yourself to them and immediately became a pest. Remember, the idea is to emotion…
/r/seduction13/01/12 10:08 PM
2

I have been trying to come up with a game you can play with your hands to get easy kino going. The idea is for it to be an extremely simple and short game, maybe kind of a logic game, or maybe a team game that the two of you can play while touching hands together. I've been thinking it will go something like this: you both put a hand up and start with your fingertips touching, and then you try to be the first to get all your fingers down (in holding hands position). There, of course, would be tu…
/r/seduction13/01/12 01:38 AM
1

Wrote about my success here just the other day for those interested. I am also playing with mine currently so I will keep an eye on this topic. Frankly, I think seddit could use some advice from our lady lurkers and from people who have had a lot of success with their profiles. I haven't seen much on the topic here, but then again I don't check in all that often.
/r/seduction12/01/12 08:02 PM
1

Say "he sounds _____! We should call him up!" Then whip out your phone out and see where it takes you. They never say okay because from that moment on they don't want his presence in the situation, and it immediately leaves room for jokes like "what? You don't know your boyfriend's number?" or "c'mon, he's a _____ and I need a good ____ in my life too", etc.
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:52 PM
0

She's going to be really hot one day. Or for all you jailbaiters...she's hot.
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:46 PM
0

Fuck that noise. Who gives a shit who they are. To be honest they look like they enjoy blowing each other. Is it safe to assume that the Boy George looking motherfucker is 'Mystery'? But fuck yeah, quit reading and start doing.
/r/seduction09/01/12 10:03 PM
1

1) Only if they are insecure losers. 2) Yes. Move to Austin and buy me dinner. 3) "I'm here to give you your big break, kid."
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:54 PM
1

what is the grammatical rule that makes it not spelled "smilies"?
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:44 PM
1

I can talk all fucking night if I have to, and some girls like that for some stupid reason. I use silences as a test to see what kind of person they are. I like your advice though!
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:39 PM
2

Pro tip: The first day of class can be the greatest opportunity in the fucking world if you play it right. Look your best and show up just a few minutes before class starts so that most people have already arrived. Most guys will be too damn pussy to sit next to the girl they actually want to sit next to, so just walk in, scope the room, pick the seat with the best proximity to girls, and fucking sit your ass down and start talking. Then, you have every excuse in the world to exchange numbers so…
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:39 PM
2

Just curious, have you tried online dating? If not you should try it for a laugh. Basically women online have a sea of people (far, far more than in real life) constantly vying for their attention, so they A) very rarely message men back, and B) tend to build barriers into their profiles to keep men from even bothering. From my experience wit is far more effective in real life than it is online, but it is one of many fine points that women look for between your photos, profile, and message befor…
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:20 PM
1

I have not. I tried Match temporarily. This may sound beta, but there is a more legit caliber of women on the pay sites and I wasn't ready to deal with them at the time.
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:00 PM
1

Yeah. No shit. I know it sounds ridiculous but unfortunately it's true. That's what I'm thinking, but when I've tried confrontation it goes like this: "What's up, blah blah blah", followed by "oh I don't like you like that", followed by "well then please stop acting like you do, it's very confusing", followed by "okay, sorry I'll try to stop" followed by it starting all over two weeks later. Even my mom realizes how ridiculous they are after seeing their facebook posts about me...photos of me li…
/r/seduction04/01/12 10:21 PM
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Nice thought, but the article did not address the actual question at hand. He said himself that he resolved his salesman situation by being friendly, clever and using psychology to get them to go away. He never tried being rude. So why do some girls act like bitches when you approach them? Because they can. Some people are just fuckheads. The underlying problem is really with guys interpreting rejection as bitchiness though, which is totally beta shit.
/r/seduction04/01/12 09:54 PM
1

why not use them to go out and have MASSIVE social proof Because they get JEALOUS! They do more harm than good unfortunately.
/r/seduction04/01/12 09:13 PM
1

I think TheDukeDevlin mean's that you can think of it this way to help you get over the feeling that you're pressuring her into something negative. It's not in what you say. Don't think: "I'm trying to convince her to let me put my unwashed cock in her" Do think: "I would like to give her a thousand squirting orgasms because she worked hard today and deserves it".
/r/seduction03/01/12 09:36 PM
1

As someone who reads seddit all the time and takes it somewhat seriously...I agree completely.
/r/seduction03/01/12 09:26 PM
1

"fall in love" around 2 minutes or so after meeting a boy This is the conclusion I have made about pretty much all the females I have met over the past few years, as nothing else makes one bit of logical sense.
/r/seduction03/01/12 08:15 PM
2

Wasn't talking to the video.
/r/seduction29/12/11 02:32 PM
1

I think the post was.
/r/seduction29/12/11 05:06 AM
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I'm strait (so far), but I am attracted to attractive men, and he is attractive. He's put together, he works out (another video), he's way more handsome than I am, he has a welcoming smile, and if my sister had his poster on her wall I wouldn't mock her.
/r/seduction29/12/11 05:05 AM
3

I will say that the camera thing can work. I've tried it. It's a good conversation piece. Came off as creepy though one time when I was with a buddy, but if was good for a laugh.
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:43 AM
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I watched most of them too. Your point is completely true. What I noticed on all his successful initial approaches was the looks the women gave him right off the bat, and it's the same looks I get with the women I score with...it's the look that says "Yes, I would take my clothes off for you because you are attractive", so all the other song and dance is filler in my opinion.
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:41 AM
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All I get from this is: be attractive don't be unattractive
/r/seduction28/12/11 08:41 PM
0

I don't know if you got the idea that we are lumping all women into these categories or if you have found yourself lumped into one of these categories, but your misinformed statement isn't terribly convincing.
/r/seduction28/12/11 05:19 PM
1

Delete facebook. Or create a new one for your family and all the new people you are going to meet. And get new clothes and a fresh look for yourself. I struggle with a lot of this stuff too (mentally) but one of the things I do is to be constructive every day. It has kind of turned me into a busy-body, but I have achieved a lot over the past ten years because of it. I don't consider going to work being constructive (because my job isn't very fulfilling) so when I get home I work on bettering my …
/r/seduction28/12/11 03:44 PM
1

Thanks for the advice, bro.
/r/seduction30/11/11 02:39 PM
2

But I don't want her number because she's a waste of time.
/r/seduction30/11/11 02:34 PM
3

Just make sure you don't drunk dial him a week later and start the whole thing over. Actually, forget I said anything. It's all hopeless.
/r/seduction30/11/11 02:31 PM
1

You're not doing it right. Stick to short back and fourths and always wait a while to return a text, IMO. I hate it, but it works for some reason.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:06 AM
5

I swear women (very generally) are afraid of actually answering their phones these days too. I can have a text conversation over the course of a few hours but as soon as I place a call, strait to voicemail and then they text me again. WTF?
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:04 AM
1

I agree. I consider part of game knowing how to read people, and at the risk of sounding like a complete asshole, I can usually tell exactly the type of girl she is after just a few minutes of talking, not to mention whether or not she's interested.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:02 AM
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If you're worried about making a sudden transition from casual to formal when you go out, you could always slowly work in a blazer, ties, and formal accessories. Then a couple months out a transition to full suit won't appear so "crazy" to people you know. Change makes insecure people uncomfortable. Edit for clarity: By insecure people I mean aquaintances and friends...when I started taking care of myself and dressing better a few of my friends just loved pointing it out.
/r/seduction27/11/11 06:02 PM
1

It kills my game because I start to over-analyze and stop having fun. But having drugs around never killed anyone's game.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:16 AM
3

so which chemical causes the friend zone?
/r/seduction18/11/11 03:56 PM
1

It sounds like, whatever you're doing, you have somehow managed to find yourself surrounded by women. Kudos. You don't need game when new women come in and out of your life naturally.
/r/seduction18/11/11 08:04 AM
8

r/nofap: a place for men to discuss not jacking off with one another shudders
/r/seduction16/11/11 04:13 PM
0

Just ignore him, he's a ARealSocialRetard.
/r/seduction16/11/11 04:09 PM
3

If you've ever taken hallucinogenic mushrooms and thought that women became more beautiful, well not fapping is very similar for me. All of a sudden you can see the beauty in even the most hideous of creatures, and personally I'd rather everyone else look hotter than have to lower my standards!
/r/seduction16/11/11 04:08 PM
1

You will not find the help you need in r/seduction. You need a good support group to lean on (friends/family) and maybe a counselor and medical treatment and r/suicidewatch. You are depressed. I know because I'm bipolar and have struggled with the same stuff you have for 15 years. We sound remarkably similar, from career choices to jealousy to our assessment of self worth. I needed help and it sounds like you do too. I decided to take my life seriously and do something about it years ago. You sh…
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:21 PM
3

I'm working on this too, because I am a decent writer who likes clarity in his texts, but I have noticed that the following things tend to keep girls interested in responding: The less punctuation the better without sacrificing clarity. This is a really subtle aspect that may or may not be that important. One reason I give it credence, however, is that I read somewhere on seddit about the concept of "just saying whatever is on your mind, even if it's weird" because it keeps them wondering, and t…
/r/seduction14/11/11 02:49 AM
5

I don't know those people.
/r/seduction10/11/11 03:18 PM
3

Don't be scared of women. They're people and they like to be talked to. Just talk to them. If they don't want to talk they'll let you know and you'll forget about it way quicker than you think. In ten years you are going to find out that you are bipolar, and that's why nothing ever makes sense to you. Take control now. Quit sulking. Realize that a lot of people love you and that all those girls constantly making eye contact with you are interested. Go talk to them. Entertain them. They love it w…
/r/seduction31/10/11 10:48 PM
4

Yes. I also talk up the guys. I also love my grocery store.
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:07 PM
1

cheers thats awesome, thanks
/r/seduction22/10/11 07:07 PM
1

30 could say no in a row, which slowly adds up to you feeling like an asshole.
/r/seduction13/10/11 02:44 PM
1

Apparently I had mild scoliosis as a kid and I had lower back problems in music school (piano/guitar playing). Maybe that's whats up? To do the above posture exercise I literally had to lay my head back and I had to look "down" to see forward! Thanks for the tip!
/r/seduction07/10/11 06:49 PM
2

Kudos.
/r/seduction07/10/11 05:54 PM
58

"I think we need more quotes on Seddit..." -modernsavage
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:39 PM
3

heels, ass, shoulders and head Umm...I just did this in the men's room. I looked absolutely ridiculous with my head that far back, but the rest looked good. I suggest everyone else go try this because it was funny as hell.
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:21 PM
14

I always say "what the fuck do I care?" and then walk up and say hey.
/r/seduction28/09/11 02:40 PM
1

I think this outlook comes from stepping back from it all. I am happy to be at this point in my life...it's not like I've given up or anything. I just like feeling like a real person sometimes. Perhaps this was the wrong subreddit to post this in, but I do take this sub seriously enough to also take it with a grain of salt. The "sarging 7's" thing was more of a joke, but I certainly see your point. However, getting out of one's "player" head and into an internally alpha mindset can be a very ref…
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:49 AM
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WELL GOOOOOD FOOOOR YOOOOOU, BUDDY!!!! I'LL JUST GO HOME AND JACK OFF TO TRANNY PORN AND CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP AGAIN WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR OOOOORGY!! up yours, jerk.
/r/seduction17/08/11 08:47 PM
1

This whole thing is hard to believe. If you are fuckable then I doubt he's playing you. If you're ugly then..well...yeah he's probably playing you or lying to you because he's not really interested. To be honest, if he's avoiding nailing you to the wall for any reason at all then there's a pretty good chance that you are going to end up with a needy boyfriend when all is said and done. Hope you're cool with that. To be even more honest this guy sounds like he may be a closet homosexual. Edit: I …
/r/seduction08/08/11 10:15 PM
1

Enjoy it. The one I went to in college was unbelievable.
/r/seduction31/07/11 05:25 PM
1

flattens hand and flies it over head can't believe that got by me...
/r/seduction25/07/11 07:32 PM
1

haha is this an actual term I have missed or are you referring to a tall mammal?
/r/seduction25/07/11 06:48 PM
5

The hard part is when it's Friday night and you are fresh out of people who appreciate you! But that's when you fly solo...
/r/seduction25/07/11 02:52 PM
1

I see your point, but I don't see how there is any difference between music and the game. They are both skills that can be taught, and I believe that you may be taking the fundamentals of communication for granted in your argument. Reverting to fundamental principals of learning, communication takes place in both socialization and education: Data > Perception > Interpretation > Reaction > Reflection. Girl stares > I see her stare > From past experience this means she either likes me or shes a pr…
/r/seduction21/07/11 04:41 PM
3

Wow, you must be high.
/r/seduction21/07/11 02:52 PM
1

Wait until she says no or ignores indefinitely. Focus on other women in the process.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:09 PM
1

Better than a bunch of highschool forever alones not trying anything and going through life feeling like shit about it. Example: When you teach someone how to play an instrument, you teach them routines first. Once the routines become ingrained, the second stage is to teach them how to interpret music for themselves. eventually people become their own teachers. This is true with every tried and true teaching method...sports...math...language...you name it.
/r/seduction20/07/11 06:26 PM
1

Once I REALLY wanted to get with this girl I met at a party so I just kept leaving messages over and over inviting her out to specific events. She never called back, so I eventually put her in the "not gonna happen" zone. I didn't give a fuck anymore, so one night I left a message saying I was just going to keep trying until she told me she wasn't interested. To my surprise, she called me back that night, got me drunk, and fucked my dick off in a room full of candles. Now I know this won't work …
/r/seduction20/07/11 05:21 PM
1

According to this her name is "STEPHA". So the good news is that I didn't sleep with him. Bad news is that he lives in a really posh area of town.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:31 PM
1

Gotta remember this.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:28 PM
0

I have an extremely ditsy friend who met the oboe player from the band Grizzly Bear one time. She's in love with him. She called it an "Elbow" and didn't get far with him. I think he's gay anyway.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:26 PM
1

I like it.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:23 PM
2

Haha great point. I spent over an hour talking to her...I know for a fact that she knows my name. I guess I feel like there's a statute of limitations on how long you can go until that becomes offensive? And I was pretty drunk...for all I know, I knew her name all night and then forgot it later!
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:22 PM
1

who's number is this? She was wise. I sent her that and she replied "It's mine!" So I sent "Haha, no really, who is this?" And she replied "It's me! Who is this?" I'm fucked.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:13 PM
1

But fuck it I met a second girl that night :) Me too! My friends tell me the one I was worried about wasn't so great anyway. Drunk goggles...
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:11 PM
1

Sometimes you just aren't into it. Don't blame yourself. I think it probably happens to most people, myself included. Something that sounds ridiculous but is absolutely worth trying...don't fap for a while. Get your testosterone up. General advice for a general situation.
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:09 AM
2

Depends on the atmosphere...sometimes it just means be engaged... Dance club = translates to being confident, ready to party, using your body language to keep her on her toes, moving her around or keeping up with her to keep her entertained Pub = translates to participating in games, etc, having a willingness to talk to lots of people and lead conversation in the direction you want and to keep the night energized...don't just sit and chat House party = move around and talk to EVERYONE. Don't be …
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:45 PM
2

Oh yeah. Absolutely. No, seriously, you're right. But how sad is it that she'd rather fuck a guy who DOESN'T want to date her than one who does?! That's the most backwards shit I've ever heard!
/r/seduction13/07/11 09:46 PM
1

Bag of sand.
/r/seduction13/07/11 09:43 PM
1

I've bagged quite a few of them...I will have already had my dick in them for ten minutes and then all of a sudden...
/r/seduction13/07/11 09:40 PM
3

high-energy This.
/r/seduction13/07/11 09:31 PM
1

I use the local music scene to get around this. I work in the music industry so I always have "business" being out and about. Plus, I don't go to clubs much, so even if I was out alone, I can just say I'm a regular. I can see how this would be awkward at a club, but then again, who the fuck wouldn't expect to get propositioned for sex at a dance club?
/r/seduction12/07/11 04:39 PM
1

Kills me. Most of my proper wing men have moved away or settled down.
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:21 PM
1

shit tested People have done this to you? What, like teasing you about being alone?
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:20 PM
1

I just did a few months on OkCupid and deleted my account. I got tons of what you describe. I was fine with it because I took it to mean that they weren't rude but weren't interested either. I actually grew to appreciate them after the dozens of women who simply never wrote back. The few women I found who were interested were either VERY OBVIOUS about it or would write me back WEEKS later...which I found weird. I never expected great results because I'm not vein enough to have a "really cool int…
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:50 PM
1

Don't ignore them. End the conversation politely. Win win. Edit: Plus, these guys should know better.
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:33 PM
0

Politely not text back. This isn't going to do the trick with most guys, not to mention it may make him mad (whether or not you care is up to you). Just tell them that you will talk to him later. It's like the period at the end of a sentence, it's not rude, and it doesn't leave them hanging.
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:32 PM
1

This has got to be my biggest problem by far. Where I live no female worth approaching is going to go out alone. Please, more info!
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:23 PM
0

don't be her vent buddy. Don't do favors for her because you like her. Agreed. The other night some chick wanted to vent about her boyfriend with me in front of 2 other chicks I was hitting on. Her boyfriend is a mutual friend of ours. I strait up told her "Nope. I'm not gonna talk about derp." and I'm pretty sure it bought me points all around. Same thing when they started comparing dog photos. I suggested we change the subject and they laughed and put up their phones.
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:04 PM
2

don't be her vent buddy. Don't do favors for her because you like her. Agreed. The other night some chick wanted to vent about her boyfriend with me in front of 2 other chicks I was hitting on. Her boyfriend is a mutual friend of ours. I strait up told her "Nope. I'm not gonna talk about derp." and I'm pretty sure it bought me points all around. Same thing when they started comparing dog photos. I suggested we change the subject and they laughed and put up their phones.
/r/seduction11/07/11 09:01 PM
3

No way. Do not give them the opportunity to back out. Don't ask them out with a question. something like "Lets go grab coffee on Wednsday. What's your favorite place?" would be way better. Edit: Also, IMO, if you can catch them online or FUCKING CALL THEM then that's always better. Man up. Don't message them for a date.
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:52 PM
1

Whatever the fuck YOU wanna do.
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:50 PM
1

Seriously. That's the type of shit I say when I'm helping out my female friends with their boyfriend issues...the female friends I don't want to bang.
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:49 PM
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Seems like from your perspective the basics still apply. makes sense. if i talk about plans Is this a typical indicator of interest? If it is then I have completely blown a few more than I had previously thought.
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:12 PM
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focus on simply meeting people/starting up conversations In social situations I have absolutely no problem with this. Anybody got tips on openers for people out and about? It's not like I'm standing there handing out flyers...
/r/seduction11/07/11 08:00 PM
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I know this is hard (I'm working on it a great deal myself) but try replacing that inner monologue of "I'm not good enough...she has to deal with assholes all day..." with "Am I going to regret passing up this opportunity?" and images of you getting all that validation you are hoping for. Seriously man, what do you have to lose? Nothing. In the game you only have something to lose when you don't put yourself out there. If she's a bitch, she's a bitch. If she's not a bitch then all she's going to…
/r/seduction08/07/11 08:05 PM
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I think the TL;DR from above is that you need to actually want to talk to her just to talk...the same as you would want to talk to her grandma, or the guy at the corner store, or the bum on the street. Try creating in your mind a reality that you aren't trying to gain validation of any type (sexual/nonsexual), but that you are grabbing her attention because you genuinely just like talking to strangers for fun. This type of focus helps me be at ease and keeps conversation rolling and it worked gr…
/r/seduction08/07/11 07:55 PM
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I like it. The right girl would dig it.
/r/seduction07/07/11 11:50 PM
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Yeah I'm think I probably back off too easy. These are usually women who are friends of friends so I will definitely see them again. I guess I just don't want to get the reputation of being pushy. Should I even worry about this? It's not like I'm gonna go on a gropefest when things don't go my way...
/r/seduction17/06/11 08:09 PM
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Generally its like this...fantastic date or great night "together" but with friends...every sign is there that I'm gonna close...then they find some excuse to avoid being alone with me or go 180 and give me some abrupt and obvious signal right before or as I go in. ...aren't reading their IOI's right. Mystery says to wait for three definite IOIs before you initiate a kiss. Mind elaborating? I feel like I'm usually WELL beyond this point when they go cold.
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:19 PM
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Great explanation. Works every single time for me...once I'm there, haha.
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:18 PM
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To an extent I think you are probably right about this...but then why do I get the same kind of flirting back from all of them? Is this some default female IoI kino shit that I just haven't grasped yet? And remember, I've already gotten all the way to the point of standing in these women's bedrooms after they have taken them home with me when they pull this shit. Shit, I was actually IN BED with one. I'm doubtful that the initial game is the problem.
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:10 PM
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Ahhh, well, sort of. Generally these are situations where we are hanging out with mutual friends but its almost a given that we are "there together". For instance I spent a weekend with a chick at a mutual friend's house and we may as well have been bf/gf the whole time...we rarely left eachother's sides, and it was mutual...I purposely had to avoid her sometimes to create space. But then all of a sudden she just turns the shit off right before I get to make my move, and then this week she hasn'…
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:05 PM
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Just curious...in order to keep two list of women large enough to necessitate categorization, do you dip below your ideal standards at all or are you just that big of a badass? This is a completely serious question, I didn't know how else to word it.
/r/seduction16/06/11 11:48 PM
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Haha I'm starting to gather that is the general consensus.
/r/seduction19/05/11 05:50 PM
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Well then perhaps its a perfect match?
/r/seduction19/05/11 03:07 PM
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Not really sure I follow you. You seem to be assuming a lot. Get off my reddit.
/r/seduction19/05/11 03:07 PM
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From that particular post? That women have an equally hard time meeting women as men do, and for the same reasons. As a critical thinker, I find this quite revealing. And I read quite a few posts over there. It was interesting. It may be useful for all the lurking male forever alones to read.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:57 PM
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Women confirmed for me that a lot of stereotypes about women are true. It's not pointless if you are interested in female psychology.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:54 PM
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The OP wanted stories. But thanks for the advice.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:48 PM
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I hear you. What I found interesting in the post is that dozens of replies had to do with the concept of women being harder to get to know than men. I absolutely agree with this from my experiences. Furthermore, females were coming right out and backing up a lot of stereotypes about women (materialistic, shallow, etc.). I found that intriguing. I find anything that helps men tap into the minds of women to be relevant to seddit.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:46 PM
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/r/seduction19/05/11 02:41 AM
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29/M -- I was the textbook story of a guy who was an awkward glasses-wearing nerd who got teased and bullied in school. Then I got into music, grew long hair, played in bands, and decided to follow my dreams. For a long time I got laid A LOT. Confidence through the roof. Then I got older and my social life changed dramatically. Downhill after college basically. Couldn't find work. Dreams didn't pan out. Its hard to get back where I want to be. No complaints really, its just life. I still do ever…
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:36 AM
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You are trying to pick up one guy? Make a move! Ask him out. I'm sure he'd love it. If he doesn't respond to that then I bet you don't really want him anyway.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:22 AM
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I say really use the "new guy in town" thing. People (at least where I'm from) are really welcoming to new people and love to show off what they know about the city. There is so much potential conversation built into that concept. Plus, you have EVERY excuse in the world to be approaching strangers! Use it! Use it! Use it!
/r/seduction18/05/11 05:59 PM
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So I'm right? Women like brutish morons? Thanks, stick-person.
/r/seduction18/05/11 05:47 PM
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The hard part is MEETING women. If you've already met them, then you obviously don't need the tactics anymore. If you haven't already met a bunch of women to choose from, then you may need an angle.
/r/seduction18/05/11 05:23 PM
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Remarkably so my good friend...remarkably so...
/r/seduction10/05/11 02:58 AM
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Lesson: Sometimes, when she says she's busy, she's trying to let you down easy. Sometimes, when she says she's busy, she's really just busy and still wants to get in your pants. Don't give up until she actually turns you down. This is so true. If I get excuses a few times in a row with a sexy fine lady I usually defer to "Well I'm going to keep asking you out until you formally reject me. Eventually you're gonna have to make a decision." and it works every time. If it doesn't? Who cares! Lesson:…
/r/seduction09/05/11 04:59 PM
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wtf... You. Are. ME. O_o
/r/seduction09/05/11 04:41 PM
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Totally! I'll never forget when I discovered kino in college. Apply light kino. If you get it back, apply more liberally. If you get it back, place arm accordingly and you're in! Its the absolute best way to communicate interest. Plus, if you're in public it flies under the radar. Women love secrets!
/r/seduction09/05/11 04:36 PM
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I hung out at a festival the other day, just kind of aloof like always, and some chick passed me a joint after about a 1 minute conversation and then asked me for my number . This never happens to me. She turned out to be a Jahovah's witness. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
/r/seduction07/05/11 11:34 PM
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does that stand for "approach anxiety"? If so you are correct, sir.
/r/seduction07/05/11 11:30 PM
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You just blew my mind.
/r/seduction06/05/11 01:41 PM
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when I get really wasted and things with a chick start to not turn my way, I get really psycho and, ultimately, beta. Totally. I have defaulted to "I'm going to bed" rather than "keep drinking" which is good, but thats totally blown it for me on a few occasions looking back. Doh! Another problem I have is the clarity in being manic. Sometimes I become all-knowing and aloof and start thinking things like "man, the world is such a great place, I love all my friends, this chick may want to jump my …
/r/seduction05/05/11 06:08 AM
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Good advice ultimately, but (and I'm not saying you aren't) maybe the dude is just kind of a "brain" for lack of a better word. It's pretty hard not to analyze things when you are a bright person because it comes naturally. Although I haven't had the best luck with closes lately, I know that I do WAY better with women when I act like I'm dumb, which tends to be when I smoke and drink. Things began to dry up for me a couple years after I became educated and interested in learning. Go figure. TL;D…
/r/seduction05/05/11 04:27 AM
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Holy jesus mother of joseph that was the most homorific music ever.
/r/seduction05/05/11 04:16 AM
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Medicated Bipolar (NOS) here. My achilles heel is that getting female attention is what ultimately makes me happy. Sex/affection = confidence for me. If I hit a dry spell, like the one I'm in now, I end up in a downward mental spiral. I really wish I could drop it (and thats what I'm really working on now) because at 30yo its only gonna get harder to attract women. I read seddit to help with the psychology aspect of women because I know that if I can get in with some (or more importantly, one ke…
/r/seduction05/05/11 04:06 AM
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Maybe all the weed and karate?
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:28 AM
1

Thats a life-changing concept right there.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:22 AM
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It makes it less true if its my mom. She is the most unrealistically positive person ever.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:19 AM
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Wow, I really couldn't disagree more. I would, in fact, say its the exact opposite. In my experience everyone is so busy judging that they forget that others are judging them. This is especially true when being approached by strangers. Am I fucked in the head?
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:14 AM
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Cool, thanks. I just realized that my text wasn't published. The info in this blog applies to seddit in my opinion.
/r/seduction03/05/11 01:25 PM
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Giggity.
/r/seduction26/04/11 07:52 PM
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For the record, I completely understand your statement and do not think it warrants downvotes. Its true. I got laid a lot more when I lived alone. Upvote for you.
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:43 PM
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I will let him know. Or will I...
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:35 PM
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We should introduce our friends. Wow.
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:34 PM
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It was already too late. And honestly, I don't think he could have handled the embarrassment.
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:32 PM
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Yeah totally. I told him he should start reading seddit. I hope he reads this. He's been friends with her a long time too so there's not much I can do there other than hope he doesn't ever try to "help out" again.
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:30 PM
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No, no, no. When you fell from Heaven!
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:29 PM
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Oh yeah. That's how I found out he was trying to help out, haha. I think my exact words were "WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING?!?" Followed by him getting all defensive.
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:28 PM
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Well guess what? Truthfully, you would probably all be great people to date (bonus for being a redditor too!). And just so you know, when you go out with a big group of friends to have a good time, you will all naturally accept some sort of role in the group, so keep an eye on the friend that because the wild floozy. She's ripe for the taking.
/r/seduction25/04/11 10:11 PM
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Totally. Exactly why the initial part of the date went well. I had absolutely nothing to lose.
/r/seduction25/04/11 09:37 PM
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Yup. I had no idea what he was talking to her about until it was WAY too late. I have failed today, sensei, but there is hope tomorrow.
/r/seduction25/04/11 07:51 PM
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Agreed. If I meet a girl at a wedding, have a good time all night, and then tell her "I would like to have sex with you tonight because I think you are interesting enough to date and maybe continue having sex with in a long term relationship" then she'd run the other fucking direction BECAUSE THAT'S FUCKING WEIRD. If I do the same thing in ANY scenario it turns out the same: On the phone. At a bar. On OkCupid. In a hot tub. With a mouse. In a house. SHED FUCKING RUN AWAY! Men would have no probl…
/r/seduction25/04/11 06:48 PM
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I have slept with my fair share of women. Almost all of them have "fuck and chucked" ME! I ALWAYS attempt a second date after a random hook-up if the woman seems even remotely dateable. They're never interested. I use seddit-type skills to meet my future girlfriends...not to "fuck and chuck". Most of the people on here aren't trying to compete for the most lays trophy. They're trying to break through the "closed-minded bitch" wall that ALL women seem to love to put up from time to time. (and for…
/r/seduction25/04/11 06:35 PM
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Depends on the girl. I've done it and it was the best sex & relationship I've ever had. Ended eventually though for other reasons. Edit: I should add this: I didn't hit on her for 5 minutes, get her number, call once, go on a date, and then LTR. I hung out with her all night at a party, got the number, asked her out 3 or 4 times for which she had excuses, but eventually I left her a message saying that I really liked her and knew we'd be good together and that I wasn't going to stop calling unti…
/r/seduction25/04/11 05:44 PM
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Seconded.
/r/seduction25/04/11 04:51 PM
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Yes, I agree. Online dating advice from someone who has had success would be great. I'm very new to it and am having good luck with the messaging part so far, but nothing beyond that. Your FR made me think that perhaps talking on the phone is a necessary step before meeting up but I haven't been good at phone chat since my balls dropped, so I'd like to avoid it if possible.
/r/seduction25/04/11 04:48 PM
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Did it hurt?
/r/seduction25/04/11 04:37 PM
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I too have used the "small dick" line and it has always worked. My friends have used it too with positive results. I will say, however, that I generally nail chicks that have a sense of humor, so they get the joke. If a chick doesn't have a sense of humor then I probably have no chance anyway because they are too busy scoping for the most Jersey Shore guy around. I consider it a great card to have in the deck. Great FR. Thanks
/r/seduction19/04/11 12:08 AM
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You came at them too strong. These dudes are either fragile, have their minds set that women are evil, or both. Sorry, but short of you blowing them all, you aren't going to convince them that they can change into confident, attractive guys. If that option was anywhere on their radar they wouldn't be posting in forever alone. TL;DR: You are like 3 guys in a green peace raft shooting smelly gas at a whaling vessel.
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:14 PM
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Never been able to bounce back from a breakup myself, but I've tried twice and this is how it went. Don't do this: I instigated the break up with both girls. I waited too long to get her back on both occasions. By the time I decided to go back (a few months of sleeping around and being confident in my decision) they had, of course, rebounded, one of which turned into an LTR. Since by now I honestly missed dating these girls, I played the nice guy, which was way sweeter than I probably had been w…
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:07 PM
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Your username is my reaction to this. Never went quite like that for me...haha.
/r/seduction14/04/11 06:50 PM
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It's hard. Just find the things that take your mind off it. It's different for everyone.
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:45 PM
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I'm still confused. Is it that you've lost motivation to get with women or is it that you've lost motivation to TRY to get with women? Here's the difference: If you just don't care about closing anymore then more power to you. Hang out and have fun and enjoy not needing vagina's around! I would LOVE to never ever again care about getting laid. but.. If you feel like you are a failure with women and as a result you are no longer motivated to try to hook up with them, then maybe we can be of assis…
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:42 PM
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I have a question...have you lost the motivation to CLOSE (as in you'd rather play video games than go out) or have you lost the motivation to TRY to close?
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:34 PM
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I hear you absolutely. Happened last year. You know what I did? I gave up. I focused on school and work and music and all the things that I like to do for myself. I told myself out loud every day for about 3 months that I don't give a fuck about any of it any more. Every time I wanted to get laid, I told myself I didn't care. I made a point not to hit on any women. I did everything else completely as I normally would. After a while I must have started to appear alpha again and they started pouri…
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:30 PM
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Seconded. Of course if he's going for just a kiss close then maybe he shouldn't be a dick about it. Maybe shes a sweet girl who won't take his dis in a positive way. Id take male friends rather than a female if it was me.
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:14 PM
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Will you be an official consultant for Seddit? We will pay you in hefty amounts of karma.
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:35 PM
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