I stumbled across this subreddit a few days ago and honestly I can't believe something like this still exists. Not a seduction subreddit, there is nothing wrong with that on it's own. But the rhetoric in here is absolutely disgusting.

What I see a lot on here are people acting as if all women are essentially the same.

-"Woman want a guy who is confident, secure with their body and masculine."

-"Woman at the club will look at you if you are having fun and don't care what they think about you."

-"Woman are attracted to men who can control any room they walk into."

By themselves, statements like these aren't that bad. It's certainly true that more women are attracted to guys with certain characteristics. And that goes the same for guys. But that is not how things are framed here. Women are talked about as if they have no agency, no thoughts. Just beings waiting to find men who fit the description of attractive that has been laid out here. This is all TOTAL BULLSHIT. Tons of women like guys who are open about their emotions and not afraid of their insecurities (that's the kind of guy that would be called a beta here).

But the bigger problem here is this is essentially the only way you all talk about women. I know this is a seduction subreddit so everything is sex related, but you are spreading an ideology that leads people to completely objectify women. It's disgusting. And I have no problem with trying to get laid. You just need to stop brainwashing yourself to the point where you see women as "something to conquer". You may think you let that perspective go when you aren't seducing women, but you are wrong. It is still incredibly limiting and damaging. It damages the psyche of BOTH men and women. So please, please, please ask yourself if you are putting half the world in a box. And if you are, try to understand why that's not okay.

Oh and I forgot the most fucked up part of this all. The people spreading this rhetoric are very often doing so in comment sections of people asking for genuine help. Sadboi James comes on here because his heart was broken. And everybody tells James that whoever broke his heart doesn't matter and she is a waste of his time. How tf do you know that when you know nothing about her? The "numbers game" philosophy is fine if it could truly be limited to meaningless sex, but it clearly is not. It is fucking up how you think about and treat people.

WOMEN ARE NOT ALL THE SAME PLEASE STOP TELLING ANYBODY OTHERWISE.