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What do you find most confusing about seduction, sex, and dating?

Sauletekis · 2018-06-26T16:20:48+00:00

For me, it's always been how to understand if someone is even interested in me, and if I am coming on too strong sometimes....

Sauletekis

June 26, 2018

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Title	What do you find most confusing about seduction, sex, and dating?
Author	Sauletekis
Upvotes	3
Comments	21
Date	June 26, 2018 4:20 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8u1cj7/what_do_you_find_most_confusing_about_seduction/
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[–]AruSharma04 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]DarkArtsPUA11 8 years ago [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link

[–]hunterpua 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

[–]DarkArtsPUA11 8 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

The kind of method that works across the board is the one where you get women to impress you.

this is useless advice. because there is no practical way to get others to want to impress you. you're speaking in illogical fallacies and you should realize that. a similar question is "how do i get people to like me?", you don't, people judge you based on different things. which is why you focus on giving value and the people that will like you will come. what i'm saying is that you can't get most girls into you by giving value in one way. what you're saying is... frankly, i don't even know. it sounds super esoteric though and very unhelpful.

Even if all women are unique, that will simply mean that each woman will try to impress you in her own unique way.

you sound very delusional and weird. it's a bit frightening how distanced you are from reality

[–]hunterpua 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

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[–]hunterpua1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Making excuses turns girls off even more man.

But ok, I'll humor you:

Its funny you say "forget about all the PUA stuff" because I'm not sure there is even much in your head for you to remember. Understanding that qualification is the way to make people want to impress you is very basic.

Besides, you simply use insults as a way to mask your lack of any good arguments. You never really got into why I'm supposedly a mess and you're not even explaining why I'm supposedly a jack ass, you're just making yourself seem knowledgeable by supposedly letting me figure it out on my own.

My money's on you just using all those words as a front. You just want to appear like you know what you're talking about but when you're made to explain something you got nothing.

Take this line for example:

buddy... i don't know where to start with you.. you're like a walking mess there's too much to address

You're saying that you could...but you just wont. Its like some guy huffing and puffing acting all tough like he would kill someone in a fight...but never really fights. Because deep down he knows, if he actually fights, he's the one that'll get killed.

[–]DarkArtsPUA111 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

first of all, i've been involved in pick up for the past 5 years and have recently fucked dozens of girls online. i know a lot of people in this community and have winged with them and observed their pick up. i've observed their results, their actions, and compared it with my own. i have been exposed to hundreds of guys doing pick up, most of them having no idea what works and endlessly spinning their wheels. i've also winged or have seen guys out that know what they're doing, know how to sell themselves, and get results. with all that being said, i think i know to a degree what the fuck i'm talking about

next, let me address your personal attacks. your talk is horse shit. you spent a full post talking shit and then throw in that "qualification is how you get people to impress you". what the fuck? you're a jack ass, and here's why:

you're not living in reality. which is why i didn't bother to break it down for you, i just reply with "you're a jack ass" because you're ALREADY too far gone and it'll be very difficult to communicate with you. you speak about qualification as if these are magic verbal games that will suddenly make a girl want to impress you. they are not, you think they are. it's baffling to me. how so deluded from reality can you be? words in a conversation are not influential, you're a true jack ass if you believe that. i'll take it one step further, you're probably going to say that coupled with your "vibe" and qualification verbal gymnastics you are going to suddenly have the girl drop her panties. sorry, but it doesn't work that way. value needs to be presented. if you are not valuable to the girl, then you will be disregarded. your arguments are horse shit. your "qualifications", in part, are useless and not a core contributing factor to RESULTS. you're just saying shit that isn't based in reality. now do you see why i simply resort to calling you a jack ass? your head is so far up your fucking ass that i doubt you'll be able to even UNDERSTAND what i'm trying to convey to you here

[–]hunterpua1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lol, first of all I've been in game twice the time you've been in it and I actually get paid to teach this stuff. One click on my username will show that to you. Speaking of, I've clicked on your username and I see that I'm not the only guy calling you out for being inexperienced so I seriously doubt your claims about knowing guys in this community. Maybe you're just some PUA fan boy who is desperate to wing the guys that are actually good just so you can say you were able to or the guys you actually wing with are just noobs like you.

next, let me address your personal attacks. your talk is horse shit. you spent a full post talking shit and then throw in that "qualification is how you get people to impress you". what the fuck? you're a jack ass

Man, I'm trying really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt but you make it so hard to believe your claims when you say things like this. A guy with 5 years of game under his belt would be way classier. And did you seriously think I was talking shit to you in my reply to your main comment just because I disagreed?? A guy with as much experience as you claim to have would have less of an ego and be way less touchy than you are.

you're not living in reality. which is why i didn't bother to break it down for you, i just reply with "you're a jack ass" because you're ALREADY too far gone and it'll be very difficult to communicate with you

More posturing. This is exactly like a fake tough guy saying, "I won't even bother fighting you because you clearly have no honor." so that he can duck a fight. Keep ducking bro.

you speak about qualification as if these are magic verbal games that will suddenly make a girl want to impress you

Lol. Lets see...I said qualification is the practical way to get someone to want to impress you and that its very basic to know that. I'm not seeing the magical stuff you speak of.

words in a conversation are not influential

Psychology 101 and anyone that's ever sold anything begs to differ. Man, I mean if you aren't that good with game that's easy to understand but please tell me you at least have a high school education.

you're probably going to say that coupled with your "vibe" and qualification verbal gymnastics you are going to suddenly have the girl drop her panties

I don't even know what vibe means. Hahaha. People make assumptions based on past experiences so if you've encountered tons of guys that say ambiguous stuff in the past then I think we've found your problem, you surround yourself with idiots!
I was starting to feel sorry for you. Luckily I can give you one point now. Qualification does involve a bit of verbal gymnastics. Gold star!
A girl suddenly dropping her panties happens very rarely, what happens more often is me gradually getting a girl to that point. In fact, I just showed some students how powerful qualification can be by using it to seduce an innocent virgin girl all the way to the point that she wanted to fuck me like a wild animal purely via text. I made a slide show for them so I have the screenshots to prove it.

value needs to be presented. if you are not valuable to the girl, then you will be disregarded

Two gold stars! There's hope for you after all. Thank god you're not completely clueless.

You're right, you need to add value before you ask for value but I never disagreed with that point and once you get the bit about adding value out of the way, you can ask for way more value from her in return. The best PUAs spend less than 2 minutes on the "attraction phase" where they try to show their value then 90% of the rest of the interaction becomes about getting the girl to prove her worth.

Oh just one thing, you may not really understand value. Its not just about being good looking or having attractive male traits or having social status. It can be literally anything a girl wants, even your friendship. Getting out of the friendzone is actually a piece of cake and its the first lesson I give in all my courses because friendship is a hell of a lot of leverage. Besides friendship, your attention is also valuable, having access to something she wants is too, and about an infinite number of other ways where you can be valuable. You should add this understanding to your repertoire so you can get laid more often and be less bitter.

your "qualifications", in part, are useless and not a core contributing factor to RESULTS

I'm not sure you even know what Qualification is.

But hey! At least you got one good dating tip out of this whole thing. That's more than we can say for the things you've been learning before this little exchange. I sincerely hope you heed that advice so you can get some damn good pussy and calm the fuck down.

[–]DarkArtsPUA111 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

honestly, i'm very skeptical when it comes to listening to advice from pua coaches because most are living in their own reality. frankly, i don't think you understand that most "game" concepts that you speak about do not apply to the bottom 80% of men in terms of looks. already i can assume the type of "PUA" that you are. probably some tall white guy that gets results and suddenly believes that he's swooning these girls through the power of "psychology". wrong. sorry to burst your bubble but it's all looks. i tell this to every good looking guy that's slaying and thinks they have some sort of mystical powers. they are 100% ignorant to the fact that their looks produce 95% of their results. then they go out and try to "teach" what they're doing to other guys. it doesn't work like that. so far you've failed to acknowledge this. you just talk out of your ass about qualification and what not. how about you show me proof of your "pick up" if you are so good. i guarantee that i can figure out what you're doing within minutes of looking at some uncut infield of you. in fact, i could figure it out within seconds of being in a set with you. i'll just look at the situation, look at what you say and do, look at the girl's reactions, and immediately know what is going on and how you are doing it. it's not hard. but as i've said before i already have a heavy hunch that you're just doing standard PUA horseshit that is preached by the top 20% looks guys which is: walk up, say some shit, have the girl like your looks, then pull

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