I am completely done.

throw_7 · 2019-07-15T02:14:13+00:00

I was exactly like you about 4 years ago.

When you expect people, whether it be men or women, to have certain qualities. You're just going to end up disappointed and frustrated when they let you down.

It's wrong to go on a date with women and come with the expectation that she would be loyal to you. It's wrong for you to think that just because you are nice to people they will be nice to you back. It's wrong to thing that a marriage vow to "love and to hold as long as you both shall live" actually means anything in a world where half of all marriages end in divorce.

Lots of people can't handle the real world and that's why they love to believe that the real world is a fictional story where the hero that sacrifices everything gets the girl and that girl is loyal to him forever. That's what they want to believe in, but it doesn't take much browsing here to see that the hero that sacrifices everything ends up divorced. With the woman walking away to be with another man while taking half his shit as she leaves.

MenGoingTOWin · 2019-07-15T04:12:52+00:00

You cannot control the course of any ship but your own.

Are you angry when a cloud blows west instead of east?

Are you angry when you plan a day at the beach but there is no sun?

Or do you try to make the best plays with the hand you are dealt?

You cannot control everything. You cannot control most things. What you can control, is your perspective.

Happiness is not conditional. It is a state of mind. The more you try to give it conditions ( "If only I had X I could be happy ) the more miserable you will be. When you get X, you will still not be happy. So you'll think you need more X or else you really needed Y.

No, it doesn't work like that. You are happy because you want to be. Because you allow yourself to be. Because you accept your imperfections, and you choose to improve them, or not. It's your life, nobody else's.

You are in control of your life. Nobody has any power over you that you do not explicitly grant them. Know this, use this. Be free. You're already there, in the driver seat, you just have to realize this and press the pedal.

You've got this. You will rage for as long as you want over how "unfair" the world is, how "unfair" it is that women don't hop all over your cock. And then you will eventually accept that these things don't matter, you've only been fooled into believing they do.

You set your own purpose in life. That's it. It's that simple. The pain stops when you are ready to forgive yourself. The joy starts when you are ready to start living for yourself.

I hope you have a speedy transition.

strongandhappy · 2019-07-15T03:03:41+00:00

It's not a meaningless post when a man has discovered the truth. We hear you brother, it gets better. You're just now learning the truth, when you've accepted and internalized it you'll know real peace.

T-HOT · 2019-07-15T02:19:53+00:00

For the sake of my sanity, please tell me MGTOW: Is it worth it to cut off most, if not all, women in my path?

Yes, absolutely yes. A million times over.Get a dog instead. If you could afford terrible girls like that you can definitely afford a dog. Maybe even a nice sex doll too.

PhantomCowboy · 2019-07-15T03:59:57+00:00

your observations are valid. the social compact has essentially failed and western civilization will most likely follow. don't martyr yourself for the obsolete promises of a bygone era.

Alone_Agent · 2019-07-15T03:33:43+00:00

I agree, it is terrifying. Men are rational, they won't do something after realizing it does not make rational sense and women and just willingly becoming disgusting in some quest for empowerment. Men eventually just won't be willing to father children to disgusting women. If all modern women end up disgusting, well... we're in for a bumpy ride.

Edit: I'm sorry for the pain that seeing the truth will cause you, we all go through it. I would bear the pain with you if I could brother.

Llodarr · 2019-07-15T03:23:49+00:00

☮️ brother. Welcome!

Wakeywakeygoblin · 2019-07-15T02:12:07+00:00

Sorry this happened to you my friend. She sounds like a terrible excuse of a human person. Fuck her.

TheVIIAnthony · 2019-07-15T04:29:12+00:00

Welcome, brother!

fredanderssen · 2019-07-15T10:51:00+00:00

I WANT TO BE THE STOIC MATURE INDIVIDUAL AND KEEP A LEVEL OF CIVILITY, AND SHE KEEPS BRINGING UP THE BOYFRIEND

You’re mixing up stoicism with being a doormat. The sooner you learn the difference, the sooner you’ll learn to stick up for yourself and cut ties with toxic people.

MrBluePill · 2019-07-15T05:17:14+00:00

"We just watch them arrive" welcome to MGTOW and the best of the rest of your life.

Huh--- · 2019-07-15T07:46:12+00:00

I hear you bro. I'm struggling too. I feel/felt the same way you do about being genuine and wanting to help, etc.

I married a woman... She apparently has BPD. I had no idea what it was. I thought she could change. Her behavior has only gotten worse off. It's a nightmarish trap I'm stuck in. Done with women for life or either a long time. My experience has been, women love to use you. They lie, manipulate and put you down. They treat you like dog shit.

RedPilledFanatic · 2019-07-15T06:28:19+00:00

I too believe in intrinsic goodness in humans. Yes there are those who do bad things. But only a minority. What you might have found out OP, is the childish wiring of the female brain. They all will become dissatisfied. Even if you'd be Chad Thundercock, 7 feet, rock hard six-pack, 1 billion dollar, her fun will be over soon. Also they don't know what they want, but want it right now. And women don't dare to say directly what's bugging them. This is perhaps fear of physical retaliation. Because despite HollyHonk, a physical fight with a man doesn't end well for her... Usually

annehoper420 · 2019-07-15T07:34:01+00:00

Hypergamy is an unstoppable force. Just look around at how society treats men. What do you see? It's not whining to speak of injustice. Society hates men. With a passion. Stay under the radar and just watch Blue pilled guys get the shaft. Look at guys who are rich and famous and still get screwed over. Funny that the motto of MGTOW "the only way to win is not to play" was coined by Shakespeare in none other than Romeo and Juliet.

The future lies in AI, the artificial womb and sex dolls. There is nothing wrong with embracing the future. I bet people loved their horse and buggies, but overnight there were cars everywhere. You can watch plenty of guys muck through shit and piss realizing that YOU will never know the heartache of having your children ripped from loving arms, then turn against you as you rot in a jail or a homeless shelter.

Read the story of Thomas James Ball, or Chris McKnee, and know the consequences against you if you set yourself up for a Hellish existence. You're doing the right thing. Whine, yell, punch, scream at the top of your lungs because when everything goes south everyone will desert you. Everyone.

TrainYourMuscle · 2019-07-15T09:12:46+00:00

Even in a relationship, a man will not be loved.
A man is used.
Remember it is always a trade. Man provides resources, woman provide sex.
That's it.
All that love, feelings are based on the fact that you provide.
Take away the resources, the love disappear.
Women cannot love.
If a man lose his job and there is no clear chance he can get one fast, his woman will leave.
Buying and Selling. There is no love.

Hey_Paul_Aaaaaaahh · 2019-07-15T10:50:44+00:00

I never understood the nice guy meme. If you act like a decent human being (VERY rare nowdays) and no one reciprocates, of course you're going to turn into a bitter and selfish asshole.

Is this news to anyone? Is this strange to anyone? In that case check your mother fucking privilege. Most of us are not born into such fine communities.

Most of us had to learn the hard way that all women are whores and most men are human garbage, with the added cognitive dissonance of being told by our parents and Disney that; Almost everyone is a good person "deep inside".

To hell with that. I live only for myself and if I happen to find an other decent human being along the way they should thank their lucky stars that I allow them the privilege of my company.

Edit: OP. Women are not hard to understand. Women are prostitutes. That's all you need to know. Now, some/many/all (depending on your wealth and looks) may be "too expensive" for you but don't think for a second that they care about your personality in the sense that you do.

Helikzhan · 2019-07-15T08:41:04+00:00

Is it worth cutting ties with women? That depends. It sounds like you might be missing some important facts about the sexes.

Women internalize love and externalize the need for resources.
Men externalize love and internalize the need for resources.
Men expend, as a resource for the benefit of society.
Women absorb resources for the benefit of society.
Men do not nest. Women nest.
A woman has no problem accepting a man as a resource regardless of what the man expects.
Just because she's secured you as a resource doesn't mean she is going to fuck you.
Women will seek the best resource they can find for genetic code and cash. It's obviously not always the same source.
Men have a deep seeded desire to obtain love from the world but don't need to get that from women. That is a lie told by society.
Women do not love men on principle. This is why men are always asked to say I love you but women aren't.

Ok so given those facts do you still ghost women? It depends on what you expect to get in return. Are you alright with being used? Are you getting enough reciprocity to make your sacrifice worthwhile? If so, go for it. Otherwise ghost them and don't fuck around with it.

StoicGiraffe1 · 2019-07-15T12:12:02+00:00

I am not from the United States of America, very much the opposite, being it that i am from Europe. Make no mistake, this is happening wordwide.

Which country are you from?

I was in the Czech Republic and the men there need the red pill more than anyone. Their women are an absolute nightmare.

sidel3 · 2019-07-15T14:01:40+00:00

She's not yours, just your turn. Never marry, never cohabitate, and never have children with women.

Gbobby101 · 2019-07-15T15:14:01+00:00

If you’re friends are not put off by her bragging about her sexual escapades while knowing you 2 had a past, then it’s time to find new friends.

commander_zoidberg · 2019-07-15T08:24:38+00:00

You sound like me about 5 years ago. Although you write like you have an education in philosophy and are able to better define the concepts at work i am a technical man and have no such background to be so eloquent.

Since my mental breakdown and black pilling a few years ago i have basically turned my back on the world. I work nights and i'm basically nocturnal at this point, keep interaction minimal to a few people i can tolerate. I don't really interact with women unless i am related to them. I stick to my books and my quest for knowledge.

Sooner or later something bad is going to happen. I get the vibe almost like the Soviet Union in its dying days.

Yashugan00 · 2019-07-15T10:48:14+00:00

I think most of us are where you are now. the journey starts at the moment you realise you've been lied to about the nature of things. a matrix of social interactions based on unmet unspoken contracts. it is my belief at the bottom of that rabbit hole youll find Briffault's Law.

you'll go through the anger phase now. who is a tunnel of introspection as you challenge the perceptions of the world you see around you. The injustice and lies you'll see will fuel the fires of anger until you have burnt it all away and can view the actual status quo with dispassion.

StoicGiraffe1 · 2019-07-15T12:07:41+00:00

AND SHE KEEPS BRINGING UP THE BOYFRIEND AND HOW SHE LOVES HOW HE FUCKS HER, AND SAYING THAT STRAIGHT TO ME AND OUR FRIENDS

If being around her is destructive to you, why would you keep doing that to yourself?

AliceGaveMeTheHerp · 2019-07-15T12:31:54+00:00

Can’t blame a woman for being a woman, just like how you can’t blame a dog for shitting on the carpet

JihadNinjaCowboy · 2019-07-15T14:16:41+00:00

AWALT.

All Women Are Like That.

Some simply are smarter than other women (the Long Con) or simply present a better front for themselves (Asian & East European women)

MethaCat · 2019-07-15T14:26:42+00:00

You found clarity. Now decide where you want to go from here.

[deleted] · 2019-07-15T19:51:27+00:00

I agree that you have to completely give up on the fantasy that other people are going to love you. That is a tough red pill.

You can be loved though -- by yourself. Take all that generosity of spirit and affection and direct it at yourself. Respect yourself. Love yourself. Say kind words to yourself. Treat yourself well. Stay true to yourself. You're the only one that deserves that positive energy.

Hope this helps. Worked for me, but it took time and lots of practice. I am naturally generous of spirit, and it felt selfish at first, but there is an often overlooked virtue in selfishness.

edgysecularist · 2019-07-15T20:55:21+00:00

This will not stop until feminism and women are brought back to their place, but I'm afraid even then its too late- all we can do is just go our own path and enjoy the ride because the end is coming

SirYouAreIncorrect · 2019-07-15T09:04:10+00:00

This is not a theme of cultural relativism. I am not from the United States of America, very much the opposite, being it that i am from Europe.

Sorry but Europe has been going that way a LOT longer than the US. European Influence in the US is one of the driving factors of our issues

But fear not, at the rate Europe is importing Islam it will not be long before most Nations are Islamic and the Feminists will be in for a shock

I rather see the truth in a bleak world

That is not the truth, the world is far from bleak. You however need to accept reality, not a fantasy. Once you fully embrace how things actually are in the world you can see the beauty in it.

Go your own way, Love yourself, and stop seeking validation and love from external sources.

StoicGiraffe1 · 2019-07-15T11:24:11+00:00

Just love yourself, that's the most honest feeling you can recieve.

Women just want someone to entertain them right now, with sex, parties, stuff, socials. They have no feelings and are to lazy to work to develope some.

Just take sex for what it is, it's better to be one of those who get free stuff than being the only one that paid and got nothing.

Ofc they will cry and say they love you but that's just a tactics to lower your guard, they don' really mean it.

Meme_fisto · 2019-07-15T11:37:30+00:00

I don't think there is such a thing as a proclivity for kindness or love, there are things that look like it but they're just some rewards to our bodies for occasional growth caused by other people on us. But in that, they aren't selfless, just a strategy to live a better life. The concept of love was created by women to enslave men mentally and get more ressources out of them. Edit : first sentence lacked a word

SneakyRat67 · 2019-07-15T13:09:56+00:00

When I started just expecting the worst from people, do you know what happened? From that day forward my only surprises were pleasant ones.

houcem29 · 2019-07-15T13:18:36+00:00

Nothing in this life worth loving and actually loves you back then god , god is everything and there is nothing worthy then him , all our life must be in pursuit of the all mighty , nothing you love must be above your love for god . Honestly god is what keeps me going in this life . And y e ah I realized and understood all what you are talking about and saw how messed up and fucked up is humanity .

plnobody · 2019-07-15T13:35:56+00:00

Cut or not - the point is to not let them affect you in any way.

InjectorRO · 2019-07-15T16:03:13+00:00

How did a smart guy like you end up with a tinder whore?

Title	I am completely done.
Author	StoicGiraffe1
Upvotes	155
Comments	93
Date	July 15, 2019 1:56 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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