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She Claimed He Sexually Assaulted Her Months After He Declined To Date Her. He Was Expelled Despite Her Own Witnesses Backing His Story.

Title_IX_For_All

December 30, 2021
381 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title She Claimed He Sexually Assaulted Her Months After He Declined To Date Her. He Was Expelled Despite Her Own Witnesses Backing His Story.
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Title_IX_For_All

Upvotes 381
Comments 15
Date December 30, 2021 4:57 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/rs6cze/she_claimed_he_sexually_assaulted_her_months/
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Comments

[–]McFeely_Smackup 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

On December 24, 2021, the school and John filed a notice of voluntary dismissal, indicating a settlement had been reached, though the details have not been disclosed.

this is only going to stop when the settlement checks start adding up to more than they can afford to pay. So long as a few bucks makes problems go away, expect it to continue.

[–]Title_IX_For_All[S] 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. That and attorney's fees. Unfortunately, universities tend to use insurance in combination with other funds to pay for settlements.

One thing I'd really like to see is insurance companies suing universities over these settlement payouts, because if universities are deliberately flouting the law and then using insurance to pay for settlements, the insurance companies could have a good case for insurance fraud. And then that adds a group of litigants with deep pockets and more legal resources to go after these universities.

[–]63daddy 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I used to work I higher education and sadly, this is very typical of most title ix cases I’ve heard of.

When most people hear the term rape, or sexual assault, they think of forced sex, but from what I’ve seen in most title ix cases, the complainant consented at the time and did not feel any assault was committed at the time. The event only comes to be viewed as an assault retrospectively.

I’ve seen cases where the woman never filed a complaint, but a feminist administrator filed a complaint on behalf of that person or the student body. Often face saving and embarrassment as in this story comes into play. The woman later regrets the encounter because it was over heard, because her friends don’t approve of the guy, etc. and of course mental health issues can play a part as well.

Often the woman says she only had sex because she was drunk, didn’t feel she could say no, etc. Often at this point she’s not trying to get the guy in trouble, she’s just trying to save face, but of course once she says this her woke friends tell her she was raped. Feminist title ix officers get involved and pressure the woman to file title ix charges. Often accelerating this is mandatory reporting. Confidentiality doesn’t exist. If a student reported something to me which might possibly have been a sexual assault I’m regally bound to report it even if the student isn’t claiming she was assaulted or didn’t want me to report it.

Of course once this happens the deck is stacked against the accused male. Due process rights such as a right to a lawyer, a right of discovery and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt don’t exist when it comes to most college tribunals.

As this case shows, it doesn’t even matter that the accuser lied about the dates in question. It doesn’t matter that her friends come forward and say she wasn’t assaulted. All that matters is an accusation has been made and someone needs to be held accountable.

[–]GodBirb 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That bit about her woke friends is too real nowadays. Saw a post the other day where this girl was asking an Instagram comment section whether she had been assaulted or not.

If you have to ask someone whether you were assaulted then you probably weren’t.

[–]LondonDude123 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

didn’t feel she could say no

I dont buy this, at all. Women in general have no problem shutting down guys that they view as in a lower league than them. When they believe they're out of a guys league, they can and do get very aggressive, insulting, and personal with their rejections.

If its a No, and you make it clear its a No, and yet it carries on anyway: You were raped. If you never express any intention that its a now, and just go along with it, you were NOT raped. What should be "No means No" has turned into "Im happy to do this on the night but it still means No"...

Am I being incredibly harsh? Almost certainly! But im not about to downplay Rape because peoples feelings are getting hurt. If you dont tell them its a No, then its not a no!

[–]63daddy 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly many schools are buying into that feeling the consent wasn’t valid if the woman felt she shouldn’t say no.

I’m aware of a case where a woman said yes, but later stated in her mind she changed her mind but didn’t tell him, but he should have known and stopped even though she gave consent and never said otherwise.

[–]hellraisinhardass 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen the lead up to this exact thing (though thankfully the outcome was different).:

1- Female friend (Jane), age 19, gets drunk at sorority mixer and fucks some random frat boy (Chad)

2- Jane excitedly tells us about the encounter the next day

3- Chad doesn't call Jane

4-Jane gets less excited about having fucked Chad as the week goes by

5- 2 weeks has passed and Jane now feels 'used' by Chad. Starts calling it assault because her sorority sisters are slut shaming her and other friends are trying to make it 'not her fault'. "You were drunk and he assaulted you" (no bitch, you were both drunk, and you fucked, YOU got yourself drunk")

6- I straight up tell Jane that I will testify against her if she elevates it (I don't even know Chad's real name).

7- Jane and Jane's roommate both get mad at me that I'm 'not being supportive'. Fuck you.

[–]Eastonberg9 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl: Lies, once

Society: "I believe you."

Girl: Lies, twice

Society: "I believe you."

Girl: Lies, three times

Society: "I believe you."

Girl: Lies, four times

Society: "I believe you."

Guy: Tells truth

Society: "You're lying."

Guy: Presents exculpatory evidence

Society: "You're lying."

Girl: Recants story

Society: "He's lying."

👏👏👏👏

[–]SYNONYM_CRUNCH 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The two talked after the encounter, during which time John asked Jane about her semicolon tattoo. Jane said it related to her mental health struggles and thoughts of suicide

Oof, if only he'd known this beforehand.

[–]Title_IX_For_All[S] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I'm thinking of making advice videos for college-age men and advising them on which women to avoid. This emotionally unstable person could be a good example.

[–]Pz5 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He needs to sue. Sex discrimination and violation of Title IX

[–]sleepyJoeBidet 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He did. The settlement was not public. These half assed kangaroo courts do no good. They make it harder for those who were assaulted.

[–]63daddy 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly, more lawsuits is what it’s going to take for colleges to start treating men fairly.

What they should do of course is leave cases of sexual assault to law enforcement.

[–]sleepyJoeBidet 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That proccess didn't result in enough convictions....

[–]dukunt 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn patriarchy

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