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Tens of thousands of domestic abuse survivors denied legal aid, study reveals: Male victims often complain of being systematically discriminated against and denied access to legal aid

DougDante

May 3, 2022
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/r/MensRights
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/domestic-abuse-legal-aid-uk-b2069075.html
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Title Tens of thousands of domestic abuse survivors denied legal aid, study reveals: Male victims often complain of being systematically discriminated against and denied access to legal aid
Author

DougDante

Upvotes 859
Comments 25
Date May 3, 2022 1:19 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/uh4smv/tens_of_thousands_of_domestic_abuse_survivors/
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Comments

[–]Tang_of_pussy 117 points118 points119 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was denied legal aid after I reported being sexually assaulted by my ex wife based on my sexual orientation (bi sexual). Found out she’s actually receiving free legal aid from a state funded domestic violence non profit………. Justice

[–]Fearless-File-3625 90 points91 points92 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Just two years ago UK f*minists were against gender neutral DV bill

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/domestic-abuse-bill-parliament-criticism-theresa-may-women-men-violence-a9007151.html

[–]iGhostEdd 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminist - the new F-word

[–]DougDante[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They remain opposed.

[–]DougDante[S] 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tens of thousands of domestic abuse survivors denied legal aid, study reveals: Male victims often complain of facing systematic discrimination and denied legal aid. A Criminal Conspiracy is willful cruelty @cpsuk @ukhomeoffice @10DowningStreet #MensRights https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/domestic-abuse-legal-aid-uk-b2069075.html

[–]PaulfussKrile 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Where’s the patriarchy when you need it?

[–]ABeeBox 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the feminist dictionary.

[–]PaulfussKrile 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao!

[–]No-Satisfaction-2320 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Worst. Patriarchy. Ever.

[–]PaulfussKrile 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[+]kingslayer9901 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

There will be thousands of studies, yet zero action. Because it’s a man majority issue.

[–]johnnygluebag 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thousands of studies… all run and published by women. I’m sure the results are without bias. /s

[–]nightcycling 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"My wife is hitting me","hit her back". "But I will go to jail".

[+]Slow_Hand_1976 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent post. Thanks

[–]han_something 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the sentiment of OP's post title that male victims are often discriminated against in DV - but the linked article literally doesn't mention anything to do with men?

I guess no one is actually reading the article 😂🤷‍♂️

(Fyi opening the link incognito seems to bypass the paywall)

[–]DougDante[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am well aware of the media black out of discrimination against male victims. If I wait for such an article, we will have no discussion.

[–]han_something 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. I suppose I'm pointing out that the title of this post can easily be misinterpreted and is somewhat misleading.

The title implies that the study shows there is a systematic discrimination against men, and that the linked article is on that topic - but it isn't at all (neither the study, or the linked article). The article is actually about general domestic violence support having reduced funding in the UK (it mentions women a few times, but never men).

But yeah, I don't disagree with your view, I just think this post is misleading. And tbh I was initially excited to see an article from The Independent in support of male victims, and intrigued by the sound of this study - but was disappointed when I clicked the link and actually read it.

[–]Morden013 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask yourself a question - where would you go, if you were a guy, abused by your wife, with a small kid?

Yeah, nowhere, because either there is nowhere to go, or you'd even get accused of being a pedophile and kidnapping your kid.

[–]Jay-Ames 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was put in jail on a bogus false accusation. Also she was abusing me (very much like the Johnny Depp situation). They were willing to let me rot in jail and throw away the key. Even when she later confessed of her abusing me, zero jail time and even zero warnings. Yes, this patriarchy is truly awful for women.

[–]DougDante[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not a attorney and this is not legal advice.

Sounds like:

What Is Domestic Violence?

Does your partner ever….

Insult, demean or embarrass you with put-downs?

Stop you from seeing your friends or family members?

Make all of the decisions without your input or consideration of your needs?

Tell you that you’re a bad parent or threaten to take away your children?

https://www.thehotline.org/is-this-abuse/

All victims have equal access:

"No person in the United States shall, on the basis of actual or perceived ...sex..be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination underany program or activity funded in whole or in part with funds made available under [VAWA]"

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/ovw/legacy/2014/06/20/faqs-ngc-vawa.pdf

Possible cause for a federal civil rights action under:

42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

Possible violation of your civil rights, consider a report:

The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, created in 1957 by the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1957, works to uphold the civil and constitutional rights of all Americans, particularly some of the most vulnerable members of our society. The Division enforces federal statutes prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race, color, sex, disability, religion, familial status and national origin.

https://www.justice.gov/crt

If I were you I would get everything in writing and consider speaking to a lawyer.

The DOJ funds VAWA programs which are prohibited from sexist discrimination or from abusing male victims.

Complaints about the DOJ can be filed with the DOJ Inspector General:

https://oig.justice.gov/

I wish you the best of luck in your search for justice.

[–]inkandpaperguy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was taken off antidepressants without any taper and ended up suicidal and on a psychotic break at CAMH. Estranged from my kids, lost a thriving 17 year old business, a commercial property, a house and two cars.

I was offered a 15 minute toll free call with a lawyer to defend my interests.

[–]kaicyr21 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lovely.

[–]CreamZebra 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Story of my life. Two weeks in the slammer because my girlfriend tried to kill me on my birthday. Then there was the hundreds of hours of mandatory anger management classes at $25 a pop. 🎉

[+]Slow_Hand_1976 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent post. Thanks

[–]Neppy_sama -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those legal aids brainwash the victims to being a feminist. Good move taken by them , who denied the false Saint people.

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