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Accidental alpha gets confused.

SpawnQuixote

June 4, 2013
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Title Accidental alpha gets confused.
Author

SpawnQuixote

Upvotes 0
Comments 25
Date June 4, 2013 1:48 AM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1fmgg1/accidental_alpha_gets_confused/
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Comments

[–]luxury_banana 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Whether these kinds of messages work or not is based on how physically attractive a guy is. Whether a guy pulling this is "confident, got balls" or "loser, is a creep" is just post-facto rationalization based on that attraction or lack thereof.

http://i.imgur.com/uOeN3IM.jpg

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a terrible way to think about it. Online dating gives you exactly two components of attraction: wordplay and looks.

90% of whether a woman even pays attention to you is a thumbnail of you. A further 8% is the zoomed in version. The remaining 2% is whether they like what you wrote.

Men are the same.

To say "attraction is 100% looks for women" based on online dating (like your image does), is to ignore that online dating basically only allows these two factors...

[–]Modredpillschool 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men present multiple coffers.

Looks, Humor, Charisma, Success, Status

Being 10 in one means you can get away with little in the others.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your statement with the one small correction. Doing well in any one of the other categories, Looks, Status, Charisma or Success are each almost completely sufficient to attract a woman. Humor on the other hand is not. No one wants to sleep with the "funny guy" at work or school unless he has credentials in the other areas.

[–]yankeetiger 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I agree. But do you think that the same principle applies in real life interactions?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My roommate is a pretty attractive guy. He's done the following that lead to closes (but he's married and does it for the validation-whoring):

  1. Slapped a girl's ass as she walked by him at a pool party. Every time she walked by he slapped her ass. He got winks and smiles for his effort.
  2. Another girl didn't introduce herself to him fast enough so he bitched her out and said get the fuck away from him. She came back after an hour and tried to make ammends and he kept giving her the "I don't give a fuck" look. She tried harder and harder. Keep in mind that this is an attractive girl and didn't have to put up with that shit, but vagina-tingles...

Try doing that without amazing good looks.

[–]yankeetiger 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

One of my friends from high school was an overweight guy with a face that looked like he'd gotten into a fight with a Mike Tyson. Without fail, at parties and in the halls, he'd do the exact same things you described, and get the same reactions. He's incredibly charismatic and I don't know a single person who dislikes him.

(See, I can include personal anecdotes that don't try to disprove the main point, too.)

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

See, I can include personal anecdotes that don't try to disprove the main point, too

I was answering your question with my own experience. I'm not saying it's a scientific paper. Keep the snarkiness to yourself.

[–]yankeetiger 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right, my bad.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No worries, brother. Not having a good morning over here. Heh.

[–]luxury_banana 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You can go to any bar or club or other meat market and observe the fact that they do.

[–]yankeetiger 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Of course attractive men will usually do better than unattractive men- common sense. How can we use your belief to explain the minority of ugly men who (demonstrably) get women with their confidence and charisma?

[–]luxury_banana 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How can we use your belief to explain the minority of ugly men who (demonstrably) get women with their confidence and charisma?

http://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/franklin/_upload/gallery/Franklin_Portraits_100%20dollar%20bill.jpg

[–]yankeetiger 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If looks matter completely (except if you're making bank) why do we talk of things like building confidence, improving social skills, and pursuing passion? Aren't these things now irrelevant?

[–]luxury_banana 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When women say they want these traits, what they really mean is that at the very least they want those traits in a man they are already attracted to.

The reason a guy with money/resources but not the traits they are sexually attracted to can get have success with women is purely due to female dual sexual strategy.

[–]yankeetiger 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe as men we have the distinct advantage of demonstrating to women exactly how attractive we are.

If I'm rich, it's difficult for a woman to know this just by looking at me. She doesn't know if I'm a good mate until she sees my bankroll- or talks to me. A confident demeanor and an expectation of success allows us to partially supersede our physical appearance by creating an alternate method by which our resources are judged.

When I meet a woman on the street, she doesn't know how to treat me based on appearance alone. She takes cues based on how I treat myself- or rather, how I expect to be treated. We're teaching women how to treat us. Teaching them how to desire us.

I respectfully cannot agree with your view that confidence and social skills do not factor into attraction. I'll admit it: I'm not a classically good looking man, and I cannot discount my possible bias. But I'm going to do better going in expecting success.

[–]effwhyeye 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why is this getting upvoted? women want attractive men. physical attractiveness is not only malleable but also only one aspect of attractiveness in men. end of story

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Favorite example: very fat but very masculine, respect-commanding black rappers.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean like former correctional officers who rip their rap gimmicks from 80s crack dealers?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, this why the very fat but very confident, masculine, respect-commanding black rappers never find any good looking women. Right?

http://hithost.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/b1122_a_biggie4.jpg

[–]creativebiz 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

be careful about that.. its a very limiting belief.. sure, looks make a major difference, but they aren't the only factor for women (thank god).. if you are funny and witty you can do great

[–]chikinpickle 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I suspect he's getting trolled. Or she's a whore.

Come on

I want to do things to you, like with my penis and stuff.

I don't buy it.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]SpawnQuixote[S] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This had little to do with being "alpha".

Get back to me when you comprehend the word accidental.

[–]TRP Vanguardtheubercuber 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The positive response was because you were confident and dominant and got straight to what you wanted. Who cares if you spell like a dumbass? That's still alpha.

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