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Stefan Molyneux on Robin Williams

kempff

August 13, 2014
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Title Stefan Molyneux on Robin Williams
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kempff

Upvotes 109
Comments 53
Date August 13, 2014 12:00 AM UTC
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Comments

[–]still_very_alive 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Any chance you could provide a summary? Or highlight the important bits?

[–]kempff[S] 45 points46 points47 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sure. Moly summarizes all that can be known about RW off the Net; he narrates his life, emphasizing his traumatic childhood and emotionally scarring relationships with his mother and father; he analyzes RW's later life in the frameworks of his childhood trauma and ties in his divorce-rapings from his 3 wives to RW's general attitude towards women formed by his relationship with his mother plus the USA legal system. His ultimate thesis is that RW died not from suicide, but from divorce-murder.

[–]iseeyou1312 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Two divorce rapings + being sued for giving someone herpes simplex.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are we talking genital herpes?

[–]iseeyou1312 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes and no, not genital herpes, but herpes simplex in the genital region.

[–]wanderingfun 47 points48 points49 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

A few of highlights, but you really should listen to the entire podcast, Molyneux is on a roll in this one.

  • The hypergamy of the women who vampirically drained him to death cost him an estimated $35M; the equivalent of paying $1K to a prostitute to have sex every single day for 96 years.
  • Williams dates women who happen to be around him, not very discerning approach, that Molyneux links back to his social anxiety (Williams was noted as very socially awkward in personal, intimate settings, until you became his "audience", but that engaged a very unfortunate compensation dynamic mechanism in him).
  • Gold-digging/hypergamy is grave-digging a man's funeral by ripping out pieces of his heart through his wallet.

Molyneux makes a powerful and convincing case through this podcast that lack of RP knowledge in powerhouse men like Williams is gradually snuffing out the light of genius of the human species.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The Chris Farley story got to me as well. He had been doing drugs and partying for 4 days straight. He was doing drugs with a prostitute and they argued about payment. She got up to leave and when farley tried to follow her he had a heart attack. His last words were "please don't leave me" as she stole his watch, his wallet and wrote a note to make it seem like she'd left before he died.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 52 points53 points54 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

For all women's talk of wanting to be treated like human beings with thoughts and feelings, they can be cold as fuck when they want something from a man they don't give a shit about.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Prostitutes especially. But most women are pretty much sociopaths who believe that they are actually good people.

[+][deleted] -24 points-23 points-22 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

"Women want to be treated like human beings, so let's judge the actions of one hooker, then apply it to all women like none have ever done anything good ever."

Nah, you crossed a line there. While women are incentivized to be shitty to the men that they pursue, this specific instance of a woman leaving a man to die is more indicative of mental illness than systemic oppression of men.

If you're willing to let someone die while they beg you to help them, you're mentally ill. I have a hard time believing that women are programmed to do this. They're definitely programmed to do other things, but not that.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

This is an extreme example, yes, but it's still an example.

What of the hundreds of divorce-raped ex-husbands we hear about here all the time? Same shit - women, with help from their lawyers, suckered them for $250k or however much else they could get. This is not a rare occurrence, it is a very regular occurrence. We've even heard from guys who were sent to jail because of the overwhelming debt. Can you imagine how cold blooded a woman has to be to let that happen to a man just so she can keep her shoe-shopping money?

Women may not all be murderous thieving hookers, but they can be incredibly cold and calculating when they feel entitled to something a man has.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What of the hundreds of divorce-raped ex-husbands we hear about here all the time? Same shit - women, with help from their lawyers, suckered them for $250k or however much else they could get.

I don't think women truly realize the breadth and depth of Divorce Co. That's giving them too much credit. Any intelligent, rational person capable of understanding the implications of instituting debtors prisons (which is alimony) and state sanctioned rape would oppose Divorce Co., but the vast majority of women cannot comprehend the slippery slope. It's far too sweet a deal.

Cold and calculating? Too much credit. Cold, yes, but navigating the process of divorce, as a woman, is incredibly simple. Hardly something that needs even basic math.

Divorce rape is incentivized by the state, and women are used like pry-bars to extract wealth from men.

Women are passive tools, used and tossed back in a shed by Divorce Co.. Could you call a gun or a saw-horse evil? IMO, that's not really possible. Women are just the tools of the trade. Nothing more. Calling them evil gives them agency, and credit they don't deserve.

[–]blazingcopper 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you seriously, seriously saying women have no control over themselves or have agency? Women that go to college and have jobs and raise kids are incapable of plotting a divorce, incapable of using the courts to their advantage, incapable of being experts at playing the victim?

[–]trudatness 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree women who do this shit are front and center of the target of blame - however that doesn't mean the Divorce Corp isn't there fanning the flames and feeding off the sadistic greed of these cunts.

[–]2johnnight -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on, prostitutes are emotionally dead inside. There are limits to AWALT generalization.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is absolute silence about his 2 divorces. Having to pay so much alimony that you have to sell your house, no that wouldn't be related to depression at all. This is so scary.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If you want scary you should google "dynamic silence" aka marxian 'lies of omission' combined with 24/7 infotainment channels.

People are more efficiently disappeared, under the watchful eyes of the Press, than ever before.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dynamic silence

a method of closing off all access to the public media - and thus the larger culture - for people or organizations deemed to have an unacceptable point of view. In spite of minor changes and adaptations, it can still be understood as being comprised of two parts. In the first part, unfavored individuals are denied unmediated exposure to the public. In the second part, only negative aspects of the unfavored individuals are reported. This starts a downward spiral of de-legitimization in the public eye in which the harder unfavored individuals try to get public exposure, the more negative and unflattering that exposure becomes until, finally, nobody wants to be associated with the ideas of beliefs of the unfavored individuals.

Lol, sounds like the deal with RP to be honest.

[–]2Occams_Shiv 66 points67 points68 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's too early to tell, but it's possible that RW could become a tipping point in the wider culture regarding the negative effects of divorce on men. Divorced men committing suicide at 9 times the rate of women moves no one because men are disposable, and men who self-terminate are doubly so, essentially proving their unsuitability for service. But RW puts a hugely loved face to that statistic.

Creatively, the man was a giant. We're talking about the Genie from Aladdin, Mrs. Doubtfire, Peter Pan in Hook, The Fischer King, Dead poet's Society, Good Will Hunting, Good Morning Vietnam...The list goes on and on.

His death is one that can't be ignored or minimized.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 87 points88 points89 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I wish you were right, but you are wrong. There isn't even an inkling of a national discussion about the family court system and the Divorce Corps.

Even high profile men are disposable. If you kill Osama bin Laden, another terrorist will step up to command al Qaida. If a drug kingpin gets shot and killed, or arrested, someone else will set up a cartel. If the President is assassinated, we have a long list of men who will take his place. If a rich actor or comedian dies, there are throngs of hungry young aspiring entertainers that will try to fill the shoes.

There is no tipping point in this. There will be no national conversation. Hell, I am still waiting for our national conversation on Iraq and torture. It's been 10+ years. We will never have one. It won't happen. Men are fodder in every realm, in every industry, in every aspect of life.

[+]blazingcopper -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Agree with everything except the torture bullshit. How do you expect to get Intel out of very motivated enemies? Otherwise spot on.

[–]2comment 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Every credible source I read on torture says it's not effective other than getting people to say what they think you want to hear.

WW2 American Vet:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100502492.html

Germany's most effective WW2 interrogator refused to use torture since it wouldn't bring him anything. He was good enough that the US consulted him after the war and brought him to the states: http://kevinrobinson.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/on-torture-nazi-germanys-greatest-interrogator/

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff

[–]Guthric 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't doubt your 9:1 statistic but, could you provide me a source from where you're getting this?

[–]2Occams_Shiv 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just heard it somewhere. Could be BS. CDC will have the real numbers if you need them. Anyway, its more.

[–]soopad00pa 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah. It'll just be more of the same "drugs are baaad, mmmkay?" and "it's sad that creative people are so unstable." Can't let the narrative slip...

[–]abbw2000 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stefan Molyneux is a silver-tongued voice of reason.

[–]McMurphyCrazy 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Free Domain Radio is probably the greatest podcast available on the internet. Stef consistently puts out new videos and is always on point. For all of you ADD-ridden guys who can't fathom an hours worth of content, download the audio podcast from iTunes, other podcast feeds, or direct from his website and listen to it over the course of a few days. I personally use an app called Pocketcasts on Android.

Listen while you commute to work or are working out. Not everything can thoroughly be explained in a 5 minute TL;DR video. Educate yourselves instead of waiting for someone to simplify it for you and leave out something. I always have FDR or Rogan's JRE loaded up on my phone.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

That was much better than I anticipated. Seeing an hour long video is very intimidating, who has that much time? But Stefan Molyneux is an excellent speaker and makes his points quite well. I watched the whole hour. Stefan lays the blame for Williams's death at the foot of his vampiric ex-wives and the State.

[–]robot-b 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have generally found that if you like the topic/title of a SM vid, it will be worth the time investment.

This is two hours but I highly recommend it: The Dangers of Dating a Supermodel

[–]ISODAK[🍰] 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That one's good, but Estrogen Based Parasites is better.

[–]TrulySovereign 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is one of his best Vids, period +1000

[–]NormanoSilurian 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(Off-topic) his vid on slavery was incredible.

[–]galt88 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And he was spot on in his assessment. Damn near drove me to tears.

[–]Slugger666 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I tend to listen to videos like this while doing other stuff. For example making food, or cleaning up the house or walking/going somewhere.

[–]juanqunt 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good to see that Stefan is TRP approved. Agreed, I'm listening to this while making lunch.

[–]TheResistocrat 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not usually a huge Stef fan, but he absolutely nailed this subject-matter, and said everything that needed to be said with reason, empathy, and pathos. This needs to go viral.

[–]trudatness 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Stef 110% right on the money. His breakdown is irrefutable.

Can you fucking imagine having to go out on the a grueling road stint 7 months after heart surgery because you fear going to jail?

WTF is this world coming to? He spent 20 fucking years with this woman. She didn't have any compassion for him? No understanding?

It brought me back to when I had to live off of $1,129 a month after support and taxes were taken out of my pay. I couldn't imagine facing that stressful uncertainty while in poor health, struggling in my 60s with the specter of jail hanging over my head.

These fucking cunts who drove him to his death put out these heartfelt hallmark card statements about his death. I want to shake with rage at their stone-faced, publicist-sounding bullshit reactions. Where the fuck were they when he was suffering? They bled his life from him. RW was a man who brought great joy and depth of thought to the world. He was nothing but a beast of burden to these selfish sociopaths.

I don't blame SM for getting emotional in the video. It breaks my fucking heart thinking about what these bitches did to him. I know what it's like to go through the mind-bending struggle to make sense of such evil.

We're still human beings and we're the only ones who have true empathy for the hell this man was living in these last few years. We're the only ones who know what his pain was really about.

It's going to be explained away like it was all about his substance abuse, but we know better. RW isn't the first man driven to suicide by divorce, and sadly he won't be the last.

[–]drunkmilkshake 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you have an hour to dick around on reddit then you can spare an hour to watch this. Hearing Molyneux read RW's quotes about his life is very sad. Ugh.

[–]RPthrowaway123 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it was the divorces that hurt him so badly, although they definitely hurt. Depression isn't always so straightforward and the person who seems to be the happiest and brings the most joy to others is sometimes the one who needs joy in his life the most. I know I'll miss Robin Williams, and I hope that everyone learns to listen a bit better from it.

I don't mean to go all mushy here but his death is really affecting me, I am still in disbelief.

[–]PlusGoody 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Williams was a bipolar addict, and he gritted his teeth a lot longer than many of them can.

If money killed him, it was having TOO much. The ability to sit at home with no distractions from the black dog and the bottle was a curse.

He had more money than any of us can imagine. His support obligations were at most $1.5 million a year, tax deductible, and he just made $4 million for six months work on a shitty sitcom and probably $2 million for Night at the Museum 2. A 150-night-year, $50k a night Vegas gig was his for the taking if he needed it ... That's $7.5 million for an hour of work every other day.

[–]thrway1312 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm amazed at some of the parallels from Williams' struggles in life (and Molyneux's analysis of their origins) and my own struggles/origins -- specifically the concept of "me plus" (both in adolescence and adulthood). While most of it is reframing things I already consciously understood, hearing it play out as someone's life is humbling, educational and motivational; that it was such a brilliant man's life makes it even more so.

[–]sakibombs25 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Grace Randolph from Beyond the Trailer gave a succinct and heart felt analysis of Robin's life and death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtWEQ9AlRs

[+]LukeMooney -16 points-15 points-14 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I posted on askTRP whether they though RW was a beta, without seeing this. Down voted to oblivion because it's Mrs. Doubtfire, but, I still think he was a beta fag. I would go as far to say, that if RW had spent as much time reading TRP as most of the subscribers here, he would still be alive.

[–]Petrichor94 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reading up on TRP doesn't make you alpha or beta. It does however make you well informed on the paradigms. There's a distinct difference.

What exactly about RW do you think classifies him as a beta?

If Robin Williams was an alpha male. Oscar winning actors tend to be alpha male.

[–]LukeMooney 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

After seeing him in virtually anything he was in - reeked of betaness. Then had a quick flick through his wiki personal life, affairs, divorces and substance addiction, more beta. Mostly, the way he delivers his stand-up, could barely watch it.

[–]Petrichor94 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you are right. Maybe his relationship with his Mother turned him into a approval seeking praise junkie for the whole of his life.

Maybe he's just your average beta dude - just so happens to have an oscar.

He was a virtuoso of comedy, and its a shame that wasn't sufficient for him to have a happy life.

I think him reading TRP would have toughened him up in a way that I wouldn't have liked. I associate him with the likes of Genie from Aladdin- films I watched when I was a child. He carried a sense of innocence that I wouldn't want tarnished by the callousness of TRP. But those are my own selfish reasons.

[–]LukeMooney -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't just down vote me, say something if you think otherwise.

[–]The_Burninated_One6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe you could find, I don't know, a better way to say it than 'beta fag'?

[+]gollumcoin -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Molyneux should be avoided at all costs. He makes fun of his listeners for not donating "enough" money, he used to tell people to deFOO, this means cut off all ties to your family bcause they are not a "voluntary" relationship. This mans projects his own experiences, we don't know what he has embellished or plain made up, onto the rest of society. He gives opinion as fact. AVOID STEFAN MOLYNEUX.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]gollumcoin -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I gave several examples of Molyneux's behavior. He makes fun of people who do not donate what he considers "enough". This channel shows us a small slice of the craziness that Molyneux offers. https://www.youtube.com/user/TruShibes/videos

[–]juanqunt 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't donate shit to him, but I still think that he's a great speaker. Now quit being a whiny lil bitch. Did I hurt your feelings by calling you a name too? He was just making a joke to get paid... quit taking life so seriously.

I cut out all poisonous people from my life. If your parents were abusive and continue to harm you everyday, why shouldn't you cut off ties from them? If they aren't, then you are voluntarily interacting with them, so it's a non-issue.

r/feminism ----->

r/communism ------>

[–]gollumcoin -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are anyway remotely representative of the average "redpiller" hahahahahaahahahahaahahahha Good luck! Maybe one day you won't get laughed out of the room the second you open your cock sucking mouths.

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