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[–]redblue2534 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
we are men sharing our limited info and experiences, glad we can all help each other. But yes as /u/MasterBaiterX it seems your experience has deeply affected you, Try looking for professional help. For everything else There is great info here.
[–]mr_wilz35 points36 points37 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not a sub to get in girls pants, neither are there any "tricks" involved. This is a sub related to the mind of a man, and the mind of a woman. If you are aware what a woman expects from you, and you are aware of what you need from your woman, you will have a great relationship.
Forget all the bad words people talk about this sub, there are a few words that may seem a little harsh and people fixate on that, however the reality is very different. You can easily see it by how people get angry, really angry at "TRP'ers". While here there is no anger. Here there is clarity and rational thinking.
Also fuck that guy.
[–][deleted] 73 points74 points75 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude, that's FUCKED. I'm glad the sub is of help to you but you should probably see a professional man. It couldn't hurt even if you're feeling better than before.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The sad fact is that there are no profesionals for men.
Psychology is build on the asexual brain premise. Almost all psychoterapy is gender neutral, with a heavy accent on female developement(because they rationalise emotions way better and are usually more open about everything)
[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro28 points29 points30 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
The dirty secret behind all the politically correct lies is that a massive amount of men have been seriously fucked up 'by any means necessary' [including prison].
It's not an accident. It is simply 'progressive' social policy.
You sound like you are on the right path. Nothing can stop you, from being whole again.
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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
having trust issues with gay guys
Shit dude I don't really trust 'em and not because I've been through anything like you have but because poor men such as yourself have been subjected to such things by people from that community.
See, they hide behind this "egalitarian fabulousness" and a lot of them are harmless, and those guys are great guys, but make no mistake, there are sick men in the gay community who hide behind it's "we're oppressed" image to do things like this. And you can't tell the difference between a predator and a harmless gay, the predators behave like the harmless gays with their upward inflexion and sense of fashion and do their best to fit in, but give them the opportunity and they will go fucking dark on your ass (no pun intended.) They will groom men, violate men, rape men, get teenage boys who are getting mixed signals from a culture that hates masculinity and play on their uncertainty to manipulate them into indulging homosexual acts.
And straight men have no recourse in this bullshit PC culture of ours. There is no justice. He can play his gay card, what card do you have? You're straight. What would you have to do to get justice? Pretend to be gay BUT raped? Maybe someone will take you seriously then? If you cry rape they'll play their gay card and say you're making shit up because you're a homophobe and spin the whole thing around. What then? Society will eat that shit up because "gays are harmless and fabulous." WRONG. Not all of them are. A lot of gays have a fetish for turning/fucking straight men too, the manlier, the better. They like the idea of overpowering a dominant straight man and fucking him in the ass. I've heard as much from gay men myself. It's the ultimate gay fantasy. When you hear shit like that, as a straight man, you have good reason to want to avoid that group of people. Personally I keep gay men at an arms length distance, there are too many predators within their ranks and I'm too busy of a guy to weed out the ones who would make good friends with the ones who want to colonise my asshole in some perverted rape dungeon, fuck that noise and hassle.
Welcome to TRP dude.
[–]needless_pickup_line5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This has parallels to the "bowl of skittles"/yes all women/not all men arguments. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's worth noting that both sides can make the same kinds of arguments and rebuttals.
Two of my best friends are gay, and they are absolutely stellar people. One is straight-passing and you would never know he was gay unless he told you.
On the other hand, I had a gay friend in college who prided himself on "outing straight boys" and made it his mission to seduce men who were supposedly in the closet. Unsurprisingly, the majority of these men were absolutely trashed at the moment of 'seduction'. Everyone thought that was the greatest thing, but I was always uncomfortable when he brought it up.
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They like the idea of overpowering a dominant straight man and fucking him in the ass.
How much more dominant could it get, than fucking a guy in the ass. I know many natural alphas who developed kind of homoerotic fetishes, like renting trannys and ladyboys or engaging in trains and sucking cock. Coincidently these guys also show various grades of DT-traits, so it might somehow be for the thrills of it.
Reminds me of one of my favourites filmquotes:
Fucking females is for poofs.
[–]1kingofpoplives0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know many natural alphas who developed kind of homoerotic fetishes, like renting trannys and ladyboys or engaging in trains and sucking cock.
Yea...these are not the sterile, family friendly, PC gays being force fed to the public through their television sets. There is a longstanding connection between homosexuality, thirst for power, psychopathology, and extremely dark and evil shit.
There are certainly some upstanding gay people, but the re-branding job the media has done on homosexuality is absolutely incredible.
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually my uncle is gay.
He honestly is the most relaxed and humorous relative I have and I enjoy spending my time with him, as well as I have stayed at his house for many nights when I visited my hometown, but if you'd see his cellar room, which he refers to as his "workroom", you would become pale.
I showed it to a girl once, who was very much into BDSM. Her jaw dropped and all she could say was "Is he doing this shit for a living?".
No, he is not, but his room features: A black leather massage couch, a black leather gynecologist's chair with a mirror attached over it at the ceiling, angled so that "the patient" can watch the action, a bathtub with an anal douche, various medical tools, including speculums, catheters and clysters and two plastic boxes filled with various dildos starting from 8" length and 2" in diameter. I didn't dare to look for the biggest one. And that's not even all.
I accidently entered the house when he was in one of his treatments. Man, I'll never forget the noises. All the painful moaning and lustful screaming.
Since then I know how he manages to stay so calm and aloof through the rest of his daily life.
[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Coincidently these guys also show various grades of DT-traits, so it might somehow be for the thrills of it.
Yeah, if this is what they're into it's all about that sadistic bloodlust they cannot quell. Rather not play Russian roulette with the fags on the off chance I meet a DT. DTs are toilsome enough without wanting to drill your ass.
[–]Masonjarteadrinker26 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fucked up bro, glad to hear that TRP is helping you out. Let us know if you need some advice.
[–]thenarrrowpath4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think its so funny how most of us are draw to this site by someone telling us to not come here because its so bad. Its like banning a book, it only makes people more curious.
[–]CDBaller2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's fucked up man. Remember who your friends are and stick with them. and to reiterate what /u/MasterBaiterX said, get some professional help. Molestation is a serious issue and even if you feel better, you should still talk to a counselor, pastor or any other sort of professional adviser about that.
[+]2RedPillSafe-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Just don't talk to a Catholic pastor... remember the Catholic Priest Scandal?
I can remember people talking about Catholic priests molesting the innocent going back to the 1980's.
I'm not Catholic, but despite the revelations about the abuse it might still be happening.
The OP is better to learn from Red Pill.
[–]LennyHayek11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My priest has been the greatest mentor I've ever had. Anyone who sacrifices his sex life for something he believes in so passionately is MGTOW as FUCK. Don't hate on an entire institution because of a few fucked up priests. Come on, man.
[–]prodigyx4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I would say that is a pretty inaccurate stereotype perpetuated by the main stream media. In my experience, Priests are no more dangerous than coaches or uncles or scout leaders.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think there's decent reason to be more circumspect of those that have forsworn sexuality, it's a natural human behavior and I can see exactly why living that type of life could correlate with becoming a sexual predator when compared to say coaches. I saw that shit all the time in the LDS religion I was raised in, I know a lot of people that were raped & molested by those in a position of religious power. Certainly doesn't mean you should flatly condemn those people, but there certainly is a logical reason to be more circumspect.
[–]sweetleef0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The problem is not that the prohibition of sex makes them gay, it's that they have had a large amount of community respect and trust, and therefore those of them who are predatory have had opportunity, and their abuses have had a much larger impact.
There is a percentage of men who are predatory homosexuals across the population, but not many of them have had positions of such authority or have been trusted with the welfare of children. And because of their occupation and stated "morality," abuse by priests is deservedly much more shocking than it would be from an "regular" predator.
That's not to justify the behaviour in the slightest - anyone who abuses children deserves the very worst kind of punishment that can be dreamt up, full stop.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I wasn't even commenting on whether they are gay or not, child pedophilia is something completely different than "being gay". There also is a spread of predators amongst the population but that again is not my point.
I'm simply arguing the fact that those that refuse to participate in sexual norms are more likely to participate in sexual deviances. I have no data to back that up, I simply think it's logical. Just like in the same sense that as pornography has become more widespread, rapes have gone down (I can google the stats for that if you care, I read that like a year ago). Those who do not have sexual outlets are more likely to commit deviancy because it's a natural urge or need that will build and find an outlet, if normal outlets are forsworn, they will find a different one. Necessity is the mother of invention sort of shit.
[–]sweetleef0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those who do not have sexual outlets are more likely to commit deviancy because it's a natural urge or need that will build and find an outlet, if normal outlets are forsworn, they will find a different one.
That is a very interesting point. Indeed it could be a factor.
[–]My_Dog_Jax1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to the sub!
I do have to say, the initial post you make is quite scary. Though you never really come out and say if it was consensual. Is it something you just regret now? Were you raped? How are you for the experience now, do you know where your sexual preferences are?
These are some questions to consider
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[–]forgeror2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
any dignity left in themselves
Bitch please! This is where men who have lost their dignity reclaim it back
I would suggest not telling this female friend about what you've found here. You will only be setting yourself up to be attacked.
That said, welcome. I was abused when I was 6 years old and so it's different but believe me I know your pain and struggles. TRP has revolutionized me and I'm much better off. I went through rehab and got a lot of personal help but when I would tell my therapists I felt I had even more issues regarding sexuality/women/masculinity they didn't understand what I was really talking about.
TRP gets it though man, society in general finally makes sense and I see my part it in. I'm starting to not see other men as threats as well as seeing women as women, not some BP caricature of them. The social theory here is strong, and it will make you strong as well.
[–]2RedPillSafe2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I worked in San Francisco during the dot.coms and was constantly being "offered" sexual relations with men in the workplace. One guy had just got an HIV test and was negative and was hoping to celebrate by showing me his idea of a good time. Too many examples to list. (long ago now)
During the daytime and at work you never had to worry.
Generally "the gays" want consent in that you kind of have to have let the situation flow as the "man" directed you to do. You played the innocent virgin. (big mistake, but you are alive)
All you can do is be aware of situations as they form. People tend to give off loud and obvious clues of where they want things to go. If you feel another man trying to mentally "push you down" then you are dealing with a "Butch" style homosexual.
Sometimes it's hard to tell a Beta trying to compete with you (Alphas create Wolfpacks, Betas seek Conflict) and an actual homosexual.
And I've also noticed that White Knights seem to have gender identity issues too so I think in many cases these deeply beta manginas aren't themselves sure if they are homosexual or not. Lot's of gender imagination these days.
Alpha men... the type you would find through a common interest in Red Pill... would not want to fuck you. It's a contradiction because Red Pill supports masculinity while the Matrix seeks to destroy masculinity.
The exception is the Dark Triads who will fuck and destroy anything because they are twisted that way. So make sure a male has "normal" mental patterns. If they guy seems out of control and lacking any empathy just get away from him.
You need to learn to recognize "the gays".
Some "gaydar" will help.
"Femmes" - Very obvious effeminate mannerisms.
"Butch" - Very hard to see because they seem like macho men. The trick is to focus on how they interact with you. If you feel that pressure where they are trying to make you feel uncomfortable then you know he's attempting to seduce you. Once you know the "vibe" you can sense them coming.
A straight Alpha male will tend to make you feel at ease, but the Butch will make you feel pressured. You can actually feel their sexual desire for you if you are at all intuitive.
[–]ModMachiavellianRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Great advice. Going to have to give you a delta point for that. ♂
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[–]ColdEiric0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't forget to tell her how vile and disgusting and horrible we are. Convince her that you agree with her, so she will tell other men about us. You know, some other male friends of hers probably also could do with some knowledge.
Welcome home, brother.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't want to dissect your mind here.
But trauma has very little to do with the actual event. Understand that, deconstruct the trauma and you'll find that the event has almost no power over you. You like being a victim, that sunk into your indentity and you can't bridge the dissonance between your sexual identity and the trauma.
[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry dude but I've had to remove your topic the thread is a clusterfuck and derailing the objective of the sub. Can't allow it.
[–]iSpccn0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What was the context of this post? I come in here and it's nuked.
[–]AlcohoIicSemenThrowe0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is there a place where I can view deleted posts? Reddit's censoring is really annoying me.
[–]Real_Patriot-7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
In all honesty, you sound like one of those women (I know you're a guy) that claim rape, after the fact (when there wasn't).
You were drunk, drunk sex isn't rape. You wanted to explore your sexuality and you got fucked; you got what you wanted.
Be a man and get over it.
[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Never step foot in this subreddit again. You're not welcome here.
[–]Real_Patriot1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well if rape means "I was curious about my sexuality and I wanted them satisfied and received that, but didn't like it afterward and because I was drunk I couldn't consent because Dunk Sex = Rape" then yes.
[–]armenia4ever2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This isn't a feminist case of "I didn't really like the sex and it was a mistake" it's a deliberate case of being taken advantage of.
[–]JesusFuckILoveAnal4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This guy has a point though what the fuck? "I was drunk, it was rape". Same thing.
Yea the downvoted/bans are pretty hypocritical
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[–]JesusFuckILoveAnal2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was sexually taken advantage of by a guy while I was really drunk while he on the other hand was sober as daylight. He is openly straight and older, and me being 19 and a woman at the time was just curious about sex. He was a friend so I thought I'd consult him about this and his advice was that I should try new thing if I like them, and I wasn't really open to that fact. So, while I was drunk he "made" me do things which scar me to date.
He's right. RP is being a gaggle of fags right now. Why?
[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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