Why relationships?

moodyprism · 2015-06-14T19:55:09+00:00

Let me ask you first do you feel that you don't need a woman? If that's the case then go right ahead. I believe the MGTOW subreddit will be more useful to you than TRP. TRP focuses a lot on women because TRP is about sexual strategy. Most men want women in our lives because we have evolved to crave women.

trphardmode · 2015-06-14T20:49:47+00:00

I have better quality sleep next to a woman, is it pheromones, some deep physiological need? Who knows? 6 hours of sleep with a woman I'm attracted to is worth 8 alone.

[deleted] · 2015-06-15T03:07:08+00:00

Relationships? There is almost nothing to gain with relationships and a lot to gain not having one.

To me, relationships are useless and counter-productive. Do not sacrifice your sexual strategy. Get girls, plates them, all they can offer you is their pussy so take that and don't give anything else in exchange.

Optimize your sexual strategy, make them sacrifice theirs.

hirjd · 2015-06-14T22:39:46+00:00

I don't want a relationship. But I do want children. I want these children to be raised by both parents. I want their mother to be happy and have the time and resources she needs to take care of my children. So while I'm not for relationships or marriage, I will probably be mostly, if not completely, monogamous as soon as I find someone I can trust to stay on task for 20+ years. This is how I believe relationships should work. They serve a higher purpose.

smokingmonkey420 · 2015-06-15T00:23:52+00:00

The only reason I would enter into an exclusive relationship with a woman is to have kids. Otherwise, I just don't see the point.

I like to keep my relationships open. That way you can enjoy all the good parts while minimizing the bad.

Polaris382 · 2015-06-15T03:31:27+00:00

I dont know, I cant really get into the "spinning plates" thing much myself, because that takes too much time and energy imo. I value my personal time A LOT and hate feeling like thats being encroached upon.

Ive been starting to see a really high quality woman (great personality, smart, hardcore work ethic/she busts her ass and with her very limited free time is always wanting to make time sto spend with me, treats me great, etc.) yet of course Im being my usual self and probably being TOO distant, and getting those occasional feelings of being suffocated even though she hasnt been needy or clingy. Aloof/distant is good up to an extent...but if you are the type that is too far in that extreme, its kind of a bad thing and kind of self-sabotaging when it comes to having relationships.

1madmanamongmany · 2015-06-15T04:14:26+00:00

I sleep better next to a women. And also, some are nice.

capt_behindsight · 2015-06-15T12:06:47+00:00

You wouldn't hire someone as a company executive if they've never worked a day in their life; similarly no self respecting 10 is gonna want a guy with little experience with women. spinning plates serves as practice in balancing all aspects of being a man. Relationships teach you how to look out for warning signs, also boost social status and relationship credit when you find that unicorn

2cold2hold2hot2handl · 2015-06-14T21:04:41+00:00

Raising children is better with both parents.

I can cook, clean, work, have fun all on my own.. why would I want to start paying for a woman to live with me that will only attempt to ruin things just for some mediocre relationship sex?

MoneyStatusLooks · 2015-06-15T11:50:06+00:00

Happiness is easy. It's possible to be a total bum and be happy (Hint, read Echkhart Tolle). In my opinion happiness is setting the bar too low. Once you are happy, you have a choice of what you want to do with your life.

There aren't any right or wrong choices. Although one could argue marriage is pretty stupid. Some guys will want mgtow, some will want plates, some will want a LTR, some will want a LTR/with kids and a life partner, others will want to get married.

No one can make those choices for you, it's up to you to decide. Red Pill is simply giving you a framework for making better decisions when it comes to relationships/sexual strategy.

One_friendship_plz · 2015-06-15T00:23:06+00:00

Because I'm not psychotic and women are still people, flawed human beings but they're still people.

It feels good to have another human being want to spend time with me because I don't have family or friends.

Not so much as need a woman, but like I said I'm not psychotic and it makes me feel better about myself, even if you guys want to call this out as bluepill shit I don't care I get off on emotional attention as much as you guys get off on sex.

Even if it took manipulation to obtain it, it boosts my ego to insane levels and makes me feel like I can conquer anything, which is what a woman's role should be. I still drop them the moment they stop giving me that.

jkonrad · 2015-06-15T09:06:05+00:00

Different men have different capacity, need and desire for personal, human connection. That will help dictate what kind of relationships they pursue.

No real one-size-fits-all here.

SkorchZang · 2015-06-15T11:25:46+00:00

I think "self improvement" really isn't enough.

Women can challenge you in ways that are impossible to anticipate. They blindside you, you never see it coming. It is safer to stay away, but is safer always better? Nope.

You need the wind blowing hard in your face to breathe with the full depth your lungs are capable of, the pain and betrayal, the disappointments, the crises of ego that happen because of women - all of it is actually welcome, despite being "negative" and seemingly unproductive.

I probably don't need to say anything about the highs that are possible with a good woman by your side... you get buzzing on a cellular level almost, your fuckin' beard grows 3X better even.

In my opinion, if you are giving it all up to pursue your passion in chartered accounting, then there better be a good reason besides "I don't want any trouble". The point of sexual strategems a man learns from TRP is exactly that new ability to look trouble straight in the face and say "bring it on", instead of having to helplessly withdraw.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-06-14T22:26:39+00:00

Your natural self wants to have a big family of maybe 10 kids.

Feminism disrupts women's minds and makes them nearly insane to deal with and reproduction is now extremely hard to pull off successfully. (without horrific divorce rapes)

Spinning plates is sort of a way to adapt while taking low risk.

Ideally the true Alpha male is the guy who is king and has tons of kids, but reality today fights everything about that. For many the thought of family is beyond reach and impractical.

The State is in effect is trying to halt your ability to reproduce.

We hate the State.

Enjoy the Decline means you ride the State driven degeneracy to rock bottom.

Enjoy the Collapse means it pleases you that things are nearing collapse. (but not here yet)

Title	Why relationships?
Author	dissection06
Upvotes	14
Comments	27
Date	June 14, 2015 7:45 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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