Badboy qualification

I've been thinking a lot how to make women chase you. First I realized sex is not just about pleasure, it's mostly about ego. Guys want to fuck a pretty girl to feel desired and get an ego boost, girls want to be approached for an ego boost. But girls get their ego boost the moment you approach, so why would they want to sleep with you? You have nothing left to offer.

So I've been thinking how to not give the woman an ego boost on approach. I realized that's exactly what badboys do, they make the girls ego unsatisfied so she has to chase for the boost.

See a badboy has a strong value system by which he judges others. He puts it above everything else. So when he approaches instead of qualifying himself to her he is instantly qualifying her on this value system. Example:

Badboy:hi

Girl: hello...

(Silence)

Bb: ...why do you wear that dress?

Girl: uh, I don't know, why do you ask?

Bb: you seem hungry for attention. Your boobs almost fall out [qualify]

Girl: no, it's not like that...

Bb: yeah?

Girl:...

Bb: (pulls her in) or you're just looking to fuck [set frame]

Girl: no I'm not that kind of a girl!

Bb: so you don't like guys?

Girl: no I'm not a slut!

Bb: (lets her go) ...so where are you going dressed like that? [takeaway] ...

What you guys think?

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[–]Aeon199 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's White Knights who are the worst. Try spending time around the "fake variety," especially online, you're just going to get destroyed in the process of trying to make those guys honest. They don't back down, but even that in itself, is a bit of a calculated move. They know what works. The inability to budge from an idealized position, is just "more authenticity" for them, as far as women are concerned. Authenticity is catnip.

I think there's a difference between typical "nice guys" everyone complains about on Reddit, and "White Knights." In the second group, you see, there is a lot of fakery--many of these guys know what they're doing, often they're just half serious at best. It's like a convincing "act" they led themselves to believe. But the biggest difference is they are socially intelligent and manipulative.

"Nice guys" I think are mostly just naive men who have been misled about how things work, and lack the insight to address the deficit. They may be entitled, but I think they're mostly "honest" overall. Trouble is, a lot of women don't like honesty.

"White Knights", on the other hand? Dishonesty is the trade secret. But somehow it works, because a lot of women cannot accept honest, forthright intentions; they can't accept the gendered differences in priority. White Knights exploit that, often to their advantage.

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So you think just because you offer her a "fulfilling" relationship she's gonna throw herself in your arms? Nice guys offer her that all the time. Endless love and loyalty and a pocket full of money IF ONLY she graciously goes to bed with them. No, offering her any kind of relationship out of the door is underselling yourself. You give yourself to her on a silver plate. You show no value. Even if you are high value she may not feel like you are or she's gonna be mega picky with you.

In the example the guy wasn't an asshole, he didn't do anything mean to the girl or call her names. He just qualified her on being relationship material. He shows he has standards and she must prove to him she fits those standards or put out or he's not going to waste time on her. He's shown value. Guys don't do that very often. So she goes "how dare you, I will prove to you I'm relationship material!" And she starts chasing

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Nice guys offer her that all the time

That's not a fulfilling relationship that nice guys offer her.

No, offering her any kind of relationship out of the door is underselling yourself.

Relationships fall in many categories. For instance, a friend with benefits is a casual relationship.

he didn't do anything mean to the girl or call her names.

"you seem hungry for attention. Your boobs almost fall out"

Please say this to the next ten girls you hit on and report back to us how that goes XD.

He shows he has standards and she must prove to him she fits those standards

Standards are fine. But there are no standards stated in the above example. And standards often aren't stated, they're just enforced via actions.

how dare you, I will prove to you I'm relationship material!" And she starts chasing

This sounds like theory. And the reason I believe that is because you asked this sub with the "conversation" above.

Overall, the above example will yield you better results than being a total nice guy. But once you become a high value, calibrated man, then the above example will seem a bit crass.

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Yeah the only difference between a fulfilling relationship and a "nice guy" relationship is that the fulfilling relationship is with a guy she considers high-value. If it was a relationship with a hot badboy she had to earn and then "fix him" she would be perfectly happy with that description.

Yeah the badboy didn't offer her that kind of relationship either. Because he doesn't want to be any kinds of friends with an attention whore. He basically told her she's only good enough for a one night stand, unless she's good in bed then maybe she's good enough to fuck from time to time

"you seem hungry for attention. Your boobs almost fall out"

Please say this to the next ten girls you hit on and report back to us how that goes XD.

Well he didn't call her a whore or anything, he just pointed out the fact that she's dressing very provocatively. Or is it the boobs part you consider offensive? You can ommit that, you can just say she's hungry for attention.

And yes I'm gonna. It's my idea after all. I'm just kinda too busy right now to do that

The standard is: you're an attention whore, prove me wrong. I don't respect attention whores. He doesn't "state" the standard, he just implies it. And the action is he's unimpressed when she fails to qualify

This sounds like theory

It is a theory, I literalry just came up with it yesterday. But I've been thinking about it for a long long time

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[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Assholes get better results than nice guys,

I would actually argue that White Knights (including the fake garden variety) get better results than either of those two.

The caveat with White Knights, even the fake kind, is the entire thing is predicated on a serious relationship or finding "the one." I think the choice circumstance is to find themselves in a relationship first, and skip out or cheat whenever a good chance arises. These guys are Grade A manipulators.

The game plan is "chivalry." It's the romantic ideal, and these folks know how to employ it.

The 'fake variety' looks for naive women who are easily swayed by the empathic, feminist front. Over time, the mask will drop, and these guys will look for another target to start the cycle again.

The dishonesty of men like this--to me, it is infuriating.

I've seen this behavior firsthand and the way some women react to it--with open arms--it's just galling. It's a bit like watching a con-man attract a buyer who doesn't realize they're being played, and not being able to say anything to either one of them.

I disagree, unless your definition of "better results" is spending the night with hot women and listening to all their experiences with other men.

If they do get lucky (in the truest sense of the word) then it's only when the girl is extremely vulnerable or extremely fed up with other men. Personally, I want a woman to want me at her highest, not her lowest. I don't want a woman to settle for me. I want to be the type of man woman aspire to attain.

Agreed. If you become the type of man women want to date, you won't have to lie to get into relationships with them.

I've seen this behavior firsthand and the way some women react to it--with open arms--it's just galling.

I haven't seen much of this but I a) tend to NOT spend time with men like this and b) am dating these women, not befriending them. But I bet it's both frustrating and a bit sad.

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Title	Badboy qualification
Author	Optymistyk
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Date	October 16, 2019 1:00 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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