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and ended it You don't.
/r/seduction03/11/15 03:51 PM
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I don't understand this post. You spend all day at BJJ and the rest of your time cooped up reading and you're surprised you're not drowning in girls? How can you say you're struggling when you haven't tried?
/r/seduction11/02/15 08:59 PM
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Reading more books is not going to make you less scared. Trust me, I read and watched stuff for YEARS. When I finally tried to make my first approach it was as if I started from square one. Just gotta hold on tight to your balls and do it. It won't be nearly as bad as you imagine, even if it goes badly. Remember, no matter what happens it's ALWAYS better than wondering "what if I had..."
/r/seduction10/02/15 03:43 AM
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Sometimes it works and we get on a topic we are both passionate about and start vibing That's it. Your job is to find a topic that: You're both interested in and passionate about She's passionate about, but you know enough about it to vibe with her and keep her going. She's passionate about, and you know nothing, but are genuinely interested in the topic and have real questions to ask her about it to keep her going. You're passionate about, and she's interested enough to ask you more about. That…
/r/seduction04/02/15 09:20 PM
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Congratulations, you've just rejected yourself before you've given anyone else a chance to.
/r/seduction04/02/15 05:09 PM
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Absolutely. Hit me up if you ever want to chat about this stuff
/r/seduction03/02/15 01:18 AM
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In my experience, the "really beautiful women" are generally nice. Once in a while I do come across girls (especially at night) that will make a face at me and/or straight up ignore me when I approach them. Ironically, none of them are super attractive. I have never, ever been laughed at or made fun of. Correct me if I'm wrong but I am going to assume that you rarely approach or have never approached a girl before. Although I definitely get where you're coming from with the whole being made fun …
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:40 PM
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Everything about #2 is better than #1. You are above average in looks and should not have a problem with girls unless your self esteem gets in the way. By the way, I suggest you check out /r/malefashionadvice - this doesn't really pertain to seddit.
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:33 PM
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Loved the post - read the whole thing. What do you think was the one thing that ultimately got you over your AA? I'm always interested in people's stories surrounding that because that was always my biggest sticking point. It literally took me years to "get over" it and even then I'm not completely over it. Keep it up bro - now is when you really go places.
/r/seduction30/01/15 02:48 AM
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I always like to go on walks. Hold her hand early and kiss her when you come to a pause. Worked every time for me
/r/seduction28/01/15 04:05 AM
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You need a frame shift. You have to figure out how to change your mental attitudes toward approaching girls to a fun one instead of one of fear. I used to have crippling AA as well - but a change in attitude plus a good deal of experience has taught me to actually enjoy the process. I know that I will always, always feel a bit of anxiety before approaching a girl - that's never going to go away but it no longer stops me from going after what I want. The biggest thing is I stopped viewing approac…
/r/seduction28/01/15 03:47 AM
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Practice one thing at a time. For example, if you want to work on negging: practice negging with 20+ girls until it becomes 2nd nature to you. Don't worry about anything other than negging. Once you have that down (meaning you now neg without even thinking about it), practice isolating. Repeat with everything else.
/r/seduction15/01/15 05:05 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "entitled" but here is why you should stop whining and just approach girls during the day: 1) There are so many nice girls who are out and about during the day who seldom/never go out at night. Are these girls not entitled to being approached at all just because they're not at a bar? 2) [Most] Girls rarely get approached during the day so having the balls to go up to them while the sun is out scores you way more points than at a club. 3) Ironically, because guys are exp…
/r/seduction12/01/15 07:22 PM
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In reality, people really aren't boring. People come off as boring when they are afraid to let loose and say something risky, therefore they self-monitor and stick with 'safe' topics such as the weather, occupation, siblings, etc. All boring shit that everybody talks about when they are uncomfortable. Stop talking to girls like they are an old lady waiting next to you in line - instead talk to them like your best friend, or your brother or sister. Talk about the huge shit you took today. Say you…
/r/seduction10/01/15 12:15 AM
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Let them die. The best advice I can give you is to just be natural with your texting. What would a normal person with healthy self esteem and some resemblance of a life do? I personally like to use text only to invite girls out/in, but that's just me. I don't try to not text someone because it's "alpha" or some stupid shit like that. Natural texting behavior include but is not limited to: 1) Letting a convo die when it dies. 2) Letting a convo die when it starts to bore you. 3) Taking your time …
/r/seduction09/01/15 12:04 AM
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"That thing is adorable wanna make one?" is what I would say. Addendum: The best way to not be a beta faggot is to say what you want to say and not overthink things that don't even matter anyway.
/r/seduction08/01/15 11:56 PM
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Why don't you wait until you find out what she wants to talk about before you ask for advice? And I mean that in the most respectful way possible - I'm not sure what you expect us to say here. Kat obviously slept with you because she saw you in a different light after she met the other girls in your life. So either this talk will be her reverting to her old attitude and wanting to back out, or she may actually want a relationship. Either way, you should stick up for what you want, which as you s…
/r/seduction08/01/15 05:47 AM
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Actually, most of the time you get rejected it will have nothing to do with you. Unless your game or your appearance is remarkably bad, the majority of the time it will be something like: 1) She's in a bad mood and doesn't want to talk to you 2) She's in a hurry and needs to be somewhere 3) She's self conscious and doesn't wanna be seen talking to a random dude (especially if her friends are around) 4) She's in a relationship 5) The time of the month And the list goes on
/r/seduction07/01/15 04:19 AM
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Mark Manson is an advocate of daygame as well as approaching girls. He, at least in his book Models, also shared plenty of ways you can improve your social skills and the only way to implement something you just learned, at least at first, is by conscious effort.
/r/seduction06/01/15 11:26 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on most of your points here. I agree that attracting a girl through "natural" action is more effective than conscious action. But if all of us were "naturals" then that would defeat the purpose of this subreddit, wouldn't it? A lot of guys on here, myself included, didn't have the upbringing (or whatever it may be) needed to cultivate healthy social skills and self esteem. This means that it has to be consciously learned later in life and that is that this …
/r/seduction06/01/15 10:19 PM
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Who gives a shit just go. You'll become more confident as you gain more and more positive experiences and that only comes from going out. Focus on and enjoy the process - don't put pressure on yourself to "pimp it" because that's probably why you're so nervous
/r/seduction27/12/14 02:08 AM
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I think what you're experiencing is normal. You'll always have good days and bad days. But to answer your question: Find what it is that you like about interacting with people and hold on to that and use that as a motivating factor when you're put into social situations. For me, it's that moment when I finally get to see the girl's face light up with a smile and go from "why is this random dude talking to me" to "hey this guy is cool I may actually like him"
/r/seduction27/12/14 02:07 AM
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Ironically, ignoring a girl in order to make her more interested in you is an extremely needy thing to do. The tactic may work but you will most likely not succeed in your endeavor because you are acting from a source of neediness and that carries over to your other actions. The best way to do it is to actually have your own life and/or other girls to talk to, and you'll naturally start talking to each one the right amount.
/r/seduction25/12/14 06:22 AM
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Tl;dr - Why is oneitis bad if it seems natural to focus on one person? In short, it's not bad to have special feelings for someone. I agree that it's natural and even when I'm dating multiple girls I almost always have a "favorite." We here discourage oneitis not because it's bad per se, but because it's a breeding ground for needy and unattractive behavior. When you focus on one girl and only one, it becomes extremely easy to develop a scarcity mindset and become too safe and needy. Not having …
/r/seduction24/12/14 06:22 AM
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Well you've already taken the first step which is realizing the problem. You also have to know that even though it feels like you're making progress when you're reading about pickup, you're not. It's just an excuse to get you out of doing what you're afraid of, which is approaching. You just have to get out there and do it. I think that books are beneficial for beginners, but once you've read one or two, you've read them all and you now know more material than you'll really ever need for the ave…
/r/seduction20/12/14 02:20 AM
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I agree with the baby steps but I have to say I disagree with the brutally honest part - for two reasons: firstly, it does nothing for you. For some girls it may come off as endearing but for most it will more likely just highlight the awkwardness of the situation. Secondly, verbally stating that you're nervous affirms this feeling to your subconscious and makes it harder for you to get into a confident mindset. One exception to this though: if you've been doing this for a while it'll often work…
/r/seduction19/12/14 07:28 PM
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Start holding eye contact for as long as possible with everyone you see until you get comfortable doing so. Start holding eye contact with everyone you see and give an acknowledgement (slight head nod, etc) until you feel comfortable doing so. Eye contact + verbal acknowledgement ("hi") with everyone you see until you feel comfortable doing so. Above + generic question ("how are you" or "whats up") until comfortable. Above + very short conversations (e.g. "I'm fine but running on 2 hrs of sleep …
/r/seduction19/12/14 06:18 PM
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This is probably not the answer you are looking for but you want to watch out for falling into the trap of constantly reading and absorbing material that "pertains to you." Just because it hits home doesn't mean it helps you in any way - you have to go out and actively tackle your own issues. Trust me I know from experience - I spent 3+ years trying to overcome approach anxiety by reading about it, but the first night I went out was like stepping back to square one. Only a couple weeks later of …
/r/seduction19/12/14 06:09 PM
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It might be deep rooted with family issues or something because I feel I can't be myself around them but can be myself around my friends and strangers Firstly, I would like to say that this is totally me. I think it comes from the fact that I wasn't able to truly find myself and come out of my shell until I left home for the first time, and so when I go back to being around those people it's like a part of me reverts back to my quiet self because that's what's expected of me, from them. Secondly…
/r/seduction19/12/14 06:03 PM
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The more you think about it the harder it will get. Literally anything will do - searching for the "perfect" opener is futile and ironically will probably make you come off weird. When I can't think of an opener on the fly, I default to "What's your name? I thought you were cute and wanted to meet you"
/r/seduction11/12/14 06:17 AM
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Record yourself. Audio is all it takes although getting a buddy to film you is obviously better. You'll be amazed at the little things you'll pick up about how you're coming off. You can buy a recorder and mic on Amazon for less than $30 total. Secondly, make sure you're being honest with yourself. Are you really that clueless as to what you're doing wrong, or is this just a defense mechanism?
/r/seduction09/12/14 02:47 AM
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Obstacles Headphones aren't a big deal. Although the occasional girl will use headphones to ward off guys, most of the time they're just listening to music. Approach anyway and gauge her reaction. If she takes her earpieces out and acts responsive, you're in. If she doesn't and acts disinterested, move on. DHV It's really interesting to see you guys' definitions of value. What makes you think being able to tell vivid stories makes you a man of value? See my post from earlier about this topic. Ne…
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:58 PM
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Guys who think girls play games just don't know what they're doing. Make no mistake, there are definitely girls who do. But in my experience that number has been < 1/10 rather than 9/10. If you give examples of these "games" maybe we can help you out.
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:48 PM
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Girls don't get threatened by dates. They get threatened by guys. Evaluate your behavior, provide some more details, then come back. Record yourself if you really don't know what you're doing wrong.
/r/seduction25/11/14 02:04 AM
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1) "Deeply satisfying relationships" is an extremely vague term. I've had very satisfying relationships (both physical and emotional) with girls that have lasted under a week, as well as shitty relationships that I stayed in for months-years. When you come from a scarcity and confirmist mindset you tend to believe that the best relationships are those that are exclusive and developed over years and years but that's simply not true. 2) Stop approaching dating from any perspective, because it mean…
/r/seduction24/11/14 10:20 PM
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How about you stop putting yourself in positions where you're sitting across a table from the girl? When you try to talk about sex it always gets weird. My take on "talking about sex" isn't about discussing sex positions or telling explicit stories but rather about subtly throwing in sexual innuendos here and there while creating tension with your body language at the same time. Stop worrying about verbal escalation and instead escalate physically.
/r/seduction21/11/14 04:53 AM
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Solid dish = eat at dinner table. Instead of cooking her dinner, have her in the kitchen with you. I actually just had this same date this past weekend - went super well. I also had a tiny kitchen so that was really conducive to being in really close proximity. Let's just say dinner almost got burnt a couple of times...
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:29 AM
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There are none, because movies and shows need to be first and foremost entertaining and thus are generally not a good representation of reality. You'd be much better off watching things that help you develop a better sense of humor, conversational skills, and maybe even a skill or two. These will make you a more interesting and well rounded person which will do much more for you in the long run.
/r/seduction19/11/14 06:56 AM
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Compliments are not needy. Compliments with the expectation that you'll receive something in return (sex, companionship, attention, etc) is needy, because in that case you're not giving value, but instead taking it. I guarantee that if you walk up to a girl, give her a genuine compliment, and walk away without trying to pick her up or get her number will absolutely make her day. Giving value depends on the specific person, but it always involves not expecting anything in return. For example, one…
/r/seduction19/11/14 06:52 AM
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Hm, good question. Don't have much experience with frat game, but your goal is to figure out what someone wants, either in a specific situation or in general. I imagine that if you're the one throwing the frat party you are already giving plenty of value. That's why the frat bros throwing the party get laid easier than all the random guys there.
/r/seduction19/11/14 06:44 AM
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It's not displaying value, it's giving value. Sure, being a good photographer makes you an interesting person but most girls will take it or leave it, especially if photography doesn't enhance their life. In order to be someone of high value, you have to give someone what it is that they value. Does that make sense? That being said, it can be different for each person. Being a good listener, as you said, can be very helpful but only when someone needs a good listener in their lives (most people …
/r/seduction18/11/14 08:22 PM
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Or just "SELFIE!!" Be concise.
/r/seduction15/11/14 07:37 PM
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She's shy. She wouldn't be going on dates with you if she were uninterested. Read her body language. Even if a girl is quiet and doesn't make a lot of eye contact, her body will still express interest. As for kino, set up some better logistics next time. Try going for a walk or inviting her over to try some new recipe. Stop going on dinner dates where you're sitting across the table from each other. You shouldn't be doing that shit until you guys are pretty much going steady anyway.
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:46 AM
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Looking back, I'm actually glad for the experience Thanks man. And that's good - you sound like a guy who knows what he's doing and can only get better. No ragrets
/r/seduction13/11/14 11:56 PM
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I read your post. Like we always say on here, we can't read minds, so we don't know what your girl was thinking or what her intentions were the entire time. It's always possible that she just wasn't that into you to begin with and no matter what you did you would end up at the same result. But just commenting on your game: You came off way too needy and that's why she ran. You began with the "I want a relationship" speech. You didn't say with her specifically, but what else was she supposed to t…
/r/seduction13/11/14 11:17 PM
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You're giving up too soon. You'll always get friction. Always, because no girl wants to feel like a slut. The trick is to alternate pulling with pushing - two steps forward, one step back. Let's say you're making out and you start reaching up her shirt and she stops you. Don't give up, and for god's sake don't whine about it. Just stop, and take a couple steps back. Take it easy for a bit. Go back to cuddling and talk about something. Give it a few minutes and she'll be craving your attention ag…
/r/seduction13/11/14 08:06 PM
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Haha, well then you may or may not have an advantage there. You should still get out though - your height and features are things you can't change and so you shouldn't even think about it. In fact, being Asian is automatically a polarizing feature and because of that it's actually easier. Some girls will automatically like you more for it, others less. So you don't have to do as much work figuring out which ones you can game and which ones you should move on from.
/r/seduction19/08/14 10:31 PM
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Not that often. Often enough so that I don't have to spend every weekend alone, but I'm a lot like you in that I don't go out with the sole intent of meeting girls. I just approach ones that catch my eye when the opportunity arises. How old are you and have you always had success with girls?
/r/seduction19/08/14 09:34 PM
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My take on it is that you succeed because you do everything right. Shy is different from unconfident and creepy. Obviously you are a very confident guy if you can directly ask out a girl you don't even know. The whole arm behind the head thing is actually a pretty dominant gesture and your smile/eye contact makes everyone feel at ease. Further, you display vulnerability when you ask girls out like that. You are opening up to the possibility of rejection and you make no attempt to shield yourself…
/r/seduction19/08/14 08:54 PM
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No, you're right. Nothing beats going out and trying. Going out and approaching 10 girls in one night will teach you more about pick up than this exercise ever will. But "just go out and do it" is not very good advice for those who are socially anxious and/or have severe approach anxiety. It's akin to telling a depressed person they should "just be happy," or someone with arachnophobia to "just jump in a pit of spiders." They know they're supposed to go out and do it. Anyone who spends even a mi…
/r/seduction19/08/14 08:40 PM
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Nothing. The more you say to yourself the more anxious you get. Just stop thinking, do it, and enjoy it.
/r/seduction18/08/14 06:49 PM
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2) I have no personal experience doing this so do this at your own risk but here's an idea: if you get the feeling that she's looking for something casual then just bring it up yourself. Most people will not flake on someone who wants the same thing they do. Usually that happens when a one person wants a hook up but senses the other wants more or vice versa. So you could just lightheartedly say "So before someone gets their heart broken I just want you to know I'm not looking for anything seriou…
/r/seduction14/08/14 12:19 AM
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1) You are meeting girls in clubs... what kind of people do you expect these are? I know that's a generalization but statistically speaking you're not going to find a nice 23 year old girl to settle down with at a nightclub. 2) Keep in mind that sometimes girls pump and dump too. For the same reasons that a guy might sleep with a girl and few times and lose interest. 3) It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong. But keep in mind that most of the time it's not about you. Maybe this particular …
/r/seduction13/08/14 11:54 PM
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Well said, especially that last part
/r/seduction13/08/14 10:29 PM
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I disagree with this. Having innocent conversations in the middle of the day is the quickest way to the friend zone. She'll see you as just another friendly stranger and when you finally start "hitting on her" in the middle of a social setting it will confuse the shit out of her and in fact I would say that's creepier than setting your intentions straight right away. I define creepy as someone who hides his/her real intentions, which is exactly what you do if you pretend to have no premise of in…
/r/seduction13/08/14 03:42 PM
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As someone else said, do what YOU want. I'm also an introvert and don't like parties/clubs, so I just don't go to them. As for when it's socially acceptable to hit on women, the answer is 99% of the time. The 1% might include stuff like while you're taking a shit, at a funeral, or in an exam (although some would even argue otherwise). Point being, you can approach and hit on women anywhere at any time. First thing is to access where you are and create realistic expectations and goals for yoursel…
/r/seduction13/08/14 03:37 PM
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This sub is not just about getting physical with girls. It's about becoming more attractive to girls, period, and a HUGE part of that is physicality. Different guys have different agendas but the rules are pretty much the same. Doesn't matter if you're looking for a hookup or a wife, you have to be attractive either way. Plus, I'd like to see you find any legitimate serious relationship where there is no physicality at all.
/r/seduction07/08/14 03:39 AM
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Figure out where the problem is. How are you failing? Are you failing to close? Are you getting outright rejected? Is your body language on point? Are you just not being interesting/asking interview questions? Give us an analysis and we can tell you where you can improve.
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:18 PM
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1) Get a job 2) Move out 3) Buy a car 4) Go out and socialize more 5) Make moves on girls
/r/seduction31/07/14 03:15 AM
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I have a few ground rules when it comes to sharing things with girls you've recently met and/or are not very familiar with: 1) No topics that are overly depressing or universally serious - e.g. your alcoholic father abusing you as a kid, loved ones passing away (unless it's been a long time and is no longer a current situation in your life), past girlfriends cheating on you, etc. 2) No topics that stir up negative emotions in yourself or lowers the mood of the conversation - if it fits in the co…
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:30 AM
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Yes there's a word for that it's called vulnerability. Except 1) Do not lie 2) know the difference between "opening up" and telling a pity story.
/r/seduction28/07/14 07:24 PM
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I personally think this shit crosses the line into "creepy and manipulative" territory.
/r/seduction28/07/14 03:03 PM
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Um, attractiveness is absolutely crucially necessary. Physical attractiveness, however, is not as much.
/r/seduction15/07/14 02:47 PM
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Some comments on this: 1) Thank you for writing this. It's obvious that you've put a lot of thought into designing your workouts and it takes a lot of hard work and determination to have achieved what you have. Trust me, I know. 2) As for the workout, especially for a beginning lifter it does not have to be nearly as complicated. Beginners should focus on building a solid foundation of strength and learning the fundamentals of weight lifting with good form. I see you have included a lot of isola…
/r/seduction15/07/14 01:49 AM
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If she did she would not have saw you coming and avoided you.
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:48 PM
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Next
/r/seduction16/06/14 07:37 PM
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You should stop constantly telling her that you care about her and you respect her. Sleep with her when you can, and as long as she keeps saying you're friends and she doesn't want to sleep with you anymore, you sleep with other girls. You should have told her you took that 2nd girl home. It really doesn't matter where you two stand. The bottom line is, she doesn't want a relationship and as long as that's still true, you can do whatever you want
/r/seduction16/06/14 05:31 AM
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Your parents will always have expectations of you that you cannot possibly meet. It's the same way for all of us. But is it your life or theirs?
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:06 AM
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Yes. You can't just stick your dick inside her when you first see her no matter how many times you've done it before.
/r/seduction12/06/14 12:08 AM
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She's not interested anymore. You can tell by the way she keeps rejecting your invitations to hang out. I would stop texting her for like a month. Then out of nowhere be like "How are you doing?" Hopefully she won't remember you for your desperation and that might restart the interaction.
/r/seduction11/06/14 04:53 PM
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Not sure exactly what the question is here, but a few points nonetheless: Stop that stream of consciousness. Overthinking and dwelling on things is the fastest way to send things downhill If it works, keep doing what you're doing. Assuming it's you being you, keep being fun and flirty and interesting. I wouldn't go see her every day. Going a couple times a week keeps things fresh, keeps her guessing, and shows her that you probably have a life.
/r/seduction11/06/14 04:48 PM
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This is not a FR. You did not game her at all - she literally went out of her way to get your attention, have a nice conversation with you, and then give you her number. And you're asking us if it was for business?
/r/seduction11/06/14 04:33 AM
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Sure I guess those worked for you. But IMO you don't ever need to ask. If you open her properly and display your intentions like you're supposed to, she'll know you're into her. And if she's NOT into you, for whatever reason (whether she actually has a boyfriend or not), she'll tell you. If you're blatantly displaying interest in her and she's responding very receptively and never mentions a boyfriend, then it's safe to say either she doesn't have one or it doesn't matter that she does.
/r/seduction11/06/14 04:30 AM
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Looking forward to it
/r/seduction10/06/14 06:17 PM
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I can't believe I actually read all that. But here we are. 1) Regarding your warning at the end: don't do it. Don't be honest with her. Because you'll not only lose the last of your manhood but you'll pretty much betray her as well. She thinks you're the only genuine friend she's ever had and then you wanna come out and say "oh hey I just wanted to get in your pants but since that's not happening BYE"? That's cruel, man. 2) Unfortunately, and a continuation from point #1, you only have one optio…
/r/seduction09/06/14 03:58 AM
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Hey man. You're not back at square one. You're miles ahead of 99% of the guys out there who sit on their asses too scared to go out and approach anybody. It's perfectly acceptable to feel down about this stuff once in a while but you will pick yourself back up and learn from this. It only gets better from here. Having said that, a few comments. Be honest here: why do you hold back when you think of a smart reply? Why do you freeze? Is it because you're scared of offending the girl, or coming on …
/r/seduction09/06/14 03:34 AM
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It sounds to me like these girls were not open to being approached in the first place. Maybe it was you, maybe they just weren't in the mood. Who knows. Why did you say excuse me after you already said hi? "Excuse me" is a polite thing to open with but if you say it after you've already opened it comes off as hesitant and unconfident. I like that you established your intentions right away, but if you don't do it in an attractive manner the girl goes "oh great here we go" especially since you ask…
/r/seduction09/06/14 03:29 AM
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You don't have to explain them all. In fact, please don't. But you didn't tell us anything at all. Maybe just tell one story with none of your annotations. Just be subjective. What did you/she do, what did you/she say, and how did you/she say it?
/r/seduction08/06/14 11:49 PM
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Here's the thing. When we text someone there is no body language, vocal tonality, eye contact or anything like that involved, which leaves us to fill in these blanks with our own imaginations. That's probably what happened here. Yes, you used the right words in your texts and she read them in a sexy confident way, but you probably failed to maintain that persona in person which turned her off. She realized you weren't the person she thought you were. Simple as that. This is why we always tell yo…
/r/seduction08/06/14 11:47 PM
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I display confident body language. Good inner and outer game. No offense but obviously not. And dude, you ask all these questions and want to know what you're doing wrong but you're not giving us any details on what you're actually doing. How can we help you? You're basically saying "I'm doing everything right what am I doing wrong?" It doesn't even make any sense. Post a field report or something, be subjective with yourself, and then we'll see what we can do.
/r/seduction08/06/14 11:41 PM
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Come on man. You're not in over your head because you're going on a date. Talk about whatever comes to mind. I suggests getting to the place a few minutes early and just making conversation with the barista and whoever else you can. That way you'll get warmed up and once you're out of your comfort zone meeting someone new won't seem as awkward
/r/seduction25/05/14 01:51 AM
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The important thing is to do what works for you. I am personally out of my element in a loud dark nightclub, so I don't play that card often. If that's what works for you, then go for it.
/r/seduction09/03/14 06:20 PM
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Just approach people everywhere. If you think you'd be uncomfortable going to a bar or social venue alone, that's okay. Most people I meet, I do through random conversations during the daytime anyway. I'm also introverted, but I've learned to enjoy meeting new people and to be comfortable striking up conversation no matter if I'm at a bar or in the grocery store.
/r/seduction09/03/14 02:47 AM
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Lol. That is fucked up. I don't wanna know what must have happened for him to have formed those beliefs.
/r/seduction08/03/14 06:14 PM
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Same with everything else in life really.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:55 PM
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These things will always happen. There will always be rude, entitled girls out there who will treat you like shit if you're anything short of Brad Pitt status. And sure, it's doesn't feel great. But trust me, their actions say more about them than they do about you. Don't get discouraged, keep your head on, learn from what happened and try again. The one thing that I do want to point out is that while these overly rude rejections happen, they are rare. If you are getting massively put down consi…
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:54 PM
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A couple drinks will sometimes help. But don't get overly intoxicated
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:49 PM
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Some girls naturally do this without knowing it. Some girls subconsciously learn these behaviors because they elicit positive responses from men. Some girls actually read game material and learn this stuff for the same reasons we do. The important thing is to not let it interfere with your game. I used to be irked when a girl would play games with me but now I find it fun, because I can see exactly what she's doing. It makes everything all the more exciting and turns it into a competition of sor…
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:47 PM
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Ultimately you just gotta bite the bullet, unfortunately. There are always little things you can do such as approaching men and less attractive girls to get you "warmed up," but an approach is an approach, there's no way around it. EDIT: Here's another way of looking at things. People make the analogy of biting the bullet or jumping in ice water for an approach. But the approach itself isn't unpleasant and I think you'll see that. It's fun to meet new people. The unpleasantness is created by you…
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:39 PM
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Your point? Out of your list only two things (your race and height) cannot be changed. So there's no point focusing on them. You can work on everything else and they will more than compensate for being short or having suboptimal bone structure.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:37 PM
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No, they're not doomed. He doesn't get girls because he has shit self esteem, is a buzzkill, and doesn't ever try. EDIT: You have the right idea, and unless this guy changes his attitude you shouldn't take him out with you. He'll only hold you back and put a damper on your confidence with his negativity.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:35 PM
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A few suggestions. I am also Asian (although I am 6' and somewhat muscular) so it's nice to see other Asians breaking out of their shell and getting into the game. But I do think you're focusing on race a little too much. You mentioned your target was Asian and you sat next to a black student. Why does that even matter? It doesn't. If you had the balls to say "Just kidding I wanted to say hi since you were cute," you did not need the cafeteria opener. Next time just lead with that or something s…
/r/seduction07/03/14 06:15 PM
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Why on earth did you do FWB with someone you see everyday at work? That's just a recipe for disaster if you ask me. When was the last time you had a conversation about this? It sounds like she doesn't want anything serious still (at least not with you) but perhaps you can bring it up again and gauge her feelings. If she doesn't reciprocate I would considering breaking it off to avoid it escalating into an even more awkward situation. As for what to do, go sleep with other women. Seriously. It's …
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:56 PM
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Pain? Why is eye contact painful for you? I would not advise staring people down. That will be extremely uncomfortable for both people and you will associate eye contact with that sort of discomfort. Just practice normal eye contact when you're talking to people. When someone is talking, look at them about 3/4 of the time, and when you're talking, look at them about 1/3-1/2 of the time. You can also practice by catching (not staring) strangers' eyes, holding it for a couple seconds, then smiling…
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:49 PM
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You're right, it's probably over although I'm not sure how much you two had together in the first place. As for saving your state at the concert, it would have been hard for anyone. Sure, the more you practice the better you get at staying in state or whatever, but it's hard for anyone when they get no feedback whatsoever from a girl. Even if she had reacted negatively to you touching her, at least you'd have some peace of mind. But your mind definitely played games with you and I'm not sure it'…
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:28 AM
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I see this question get asked a lot in various forms: How do I push myself out of my comfort zone? What most people mean when they say this is: How do I leave my comfort zone without being so uncomfortable? The answer is you can't. The definition of comfort zone is where you're comfortable, so naturally leaving it means you'll be uncomfortable. And that's just a fact that you'll have to accept if you want to learn pickup skills and grow as a person. You're going to have to be uncomfortable until…
/r/seduction06/03/14 12:27 AM
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You sound like you know what you're doing to me. Sometimes you just have to realize that it's perfectly okay to mess up and make mistakes if you learn from them. And it's perfectly okay to not feel great all the time either. Everyone has moments of self doubt and that's perfectly natural. The most important thing is that at the end of the day you don't lose sight of who you are or where you're going.
/r/seduction06/03/14 12:13 AM
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There's nothing wrong with asking someone when they are free. But it's manipulative if you do it with the spirit that "Hey, she can't reject me if I ask her out when she said she's free." That's how you get flakes: because you cornered her when she didn't really want to go out with you. But the fact that your flakes immediately reschedule says that you don't have this problem, which is perfectly fine.
/r/seduction05/03/14 05:35 PM
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I've never seen the shows but they sound like BS. The best way for you to learn is to go out and approach girls yourself. That, and by talking to real people who have done so successfully. If you have the time to watch that show you have the time to practice for real.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:16 AM
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Nah, that trick doesn't quite work because it's fundamentally manipulative. If a girl rejects every date you throw at them she's doing it for a reason: because she's not interest in going on a date with you. If you did your job correctly prior to trying to set up a date, she'll make time for you or at least suggest another time that works. So just go ahead and suggest another time or times that work for you.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:12 AM
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You got upvotes because you were nice enough to give away a book you wrote for free. Writing you a review in return is the least people can do.
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:05 AM
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I did not. Are you still giving it away? By the way, this is an excellent marketing strategy. Good work!
/r/seduction04/03/14 11:27 PM
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Unless you're trying to get in a girls pants, don't just sit there and linger with them Uh, this sentence makes no sense. What I think he's trying to say is that you shouldn't hang out after the conversation is over, unless you and the girl are physically escalating and words are no longer necessary. This would make a lot more sense. Lingering after a conversation is clearly over makes you seem too available and not in tune with social cues. Some people recommend leaving at the height of a conve…
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:15 AM
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It's autistic there's no H.
/r/seduction01/03/14 11:20 PM
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No rejection from a girl will hurt as much as your rejection of yourself. Unless you get pepper sprayed. Point is, you are shooting yourself down before you even try. As the poster above me said, the kiss is not the holy grail. Nor is the number, nor is sex, nor is a committed relationship. The holy grail is your own satisfaction with your own life. Trust me, the more you hype up that kiss, the more anti-climactic it'll be when it happens. Just approach, enjoy the interaction, amuse yourself, an…
/r/seduction28/02/14 02:27 AM
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What is a DLV? And I'm not sure what you're asking... are you saying you don't wanna get with a girl because it might hurt your chances of getting with other girls? Does that even make sense to you? If not her then whom?
/r/seduction26/02/14 12:44 AM
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Fundamentally, self esteem has to come from within you. Yes, investing in yourself (doing things for you) is what you should be doing for that, but if you think about it, it's not really mandatory. You are already you - you just have to see yourself in a different light. We all have good traits and bad ones, so focus on what is valuable about you. Body language and eye contact are more outward expressions of confidence, but they may or may not improve your self esteem by themselves. As for the a…
/r/seduction25/02/14 04:31 PM
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What does being a minor have to do with your ability to speak? Coffee shops, book stores, and malls are probably the best places to meet younger people.
/r/seduction24/02/14 11:47 PM
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Sure, a couple thoughts about this: There are several reasons why you may feel unworthy. One is you have poor self esteem. You think lowly of yourself and therefore your perceived value is lower than hers. Second is you think highly of the girl (aka putting her on a pedestal), and therefore your perceived value of her is higher than yours. It could also be a combination of both things. Regardless, both of those things have one aspect in common: you are thinking too much. This is why, as you say,…
/r/seduction24/02/14 11:44 PM
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I didn't understand the last part of that. But from your first sentence, look at it this way: A total beginner/AFC/chode/whatever you wanna call it, is going to be scared of virtually all girls. He'll probably be scared to approach a girl that he's not even that attracted to. With practice, he raises that threshold. Now, he's still scared of the more attractive girls, but he's fine with talking to girls that are fat/ugly/old/whatever. This is where your average guy stands. Again, with repeated p…
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:10 AM
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Yeah of course. Really that's one of the fundamental ideas behind seddit and the seduction community - no one needs help gaming unattractive girls they're not interested in. But as you've already discovered, with practice it does get easier and you'll learn to control yourself better around girls you're interested in.
/r/seduction23/02/14 11:48 PM
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It's not about what you do so much as why you're doing it. With that logic, negging is not the opposite of supplication. The opposite of supplication is doing what you want, to please you, not her. As for negging, there's a time and a place for that. If you do it right, it'll work wonders. If you do it wrong, she'll see right through you. Girls aren't stupid and they're generally much better than we are at seeing through to somebody's true intentions.
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:14 AM
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What would be most beneficial is for you to practice making your own decisions. It's perfectly acceptable to do what you want and go to your basketball game, and it's also perfectly acceptable to show your support for your friend and go to his birthday party, as long as it's your decision. The trick is to do what you want, not what others expect.
/r/seduction22/02/14 11:54 PM
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I live alone. I gotta admit it's pretty easy sometimes to just decide to do nothing for a whole day and sit around by yourself. But you only need a tiny bit of self control to go out and meet people and even have friends over. Overall, living alone is much better for the logistics of hooking up, plus it just gives off a better vibe when a guy has his own place.
/r/seduction13/02/14 11:05 PM
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Are you friends with people in your classes? Hanging out with them is a great way to meet new people because somebody is bound to know somebody you don't know. So then you slowly expand your social circle. Meeting new people doesn't have to be some sort of isolated incident
/r/seduction13/02/14 08:44 PM
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I don't understand when people on here put down what they look like and then say their problem is something completely different. What does that have anything to do with you being 6ft tall? How about meeting people in your classes? Clubs and extra curriculars? Through your volunteer position? Surely that involves being around other people right
/r/seduction13/02/14 07:37 PM
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I have not. But some thoughts about this: Mark Manson is a pretty respected figure. Based on what I've read of/about him, he seems like he knows what he's doing. I wouldn't straight up tell you that it'll be worth your money, but it's going to be less risky than doing a program with someone nobody's ever heard of. These programs generally work. Why? Not because they're magic and they know something that you/we don't. But because they get you off your ass and have you approaching women, which is …
/r/seduction12/02/14 11:34 PM
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Just go and have fun man, it doesn't matter what you do or don't do. The more you think about how to do things right, ironically, the more likely you are to mess up, because it's the anxious, subservient mentality that gets you. There are a million ways to have fun. Go in, pretend you're a customer and ask which foundation would best match your skin tone. Hang out for a while, and when a real customer comes along, ask them if you can help them as if you actually work there. Get the picture? That…
/r/seduction12/02/14 11:26 PM
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I don't have much experience with online dating but I would assume that the vast majority of guys have profiles that sound the same. So it wouldn't be too hard to set yourself apart. You'll want to make yourself sound like an interesting person but who is also positive and independent. Avoid using language that makes you seem uncertain or doubtful of yourself. You should also make it sound like you aren't taking the whole online dating thing too seriously, although don't come off as you're just …
/r/seduction11/02/14 09:59 PM
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Oh boy... these types of girls. I love them and hate them at the same time (a little more on the hate side though). It's probably best for you to just put it out of your mind. The less you think about what the "surprise" is, the better off you'll be. Chances are it won't be nearly as big of a deal as you think it is. I wouldn't even be surprised if there were no surprise. EDIT: do tell us what it is when you find out though
/r/seduction11/02/14 03:02 AM
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You're welcome. JK. In all seriousness, that's awesome. I think you've conquered the hardest part. Now you're well on your way to greatness
/r/seduction11/02/14 02:55 AM
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surrounded by people who consistently do better than you Eh, are you sure that's true? I recently spent 4 years in academia (getting my BA) and it's really easy to feel like that's the case sometimes. Everybody tries to make themselves look like they're doing better than they are. But the fact that you're there, in the same program, at the same school, in the same social group as the others, shows that you're just as good. it typically doesnt help my outer game, and it hurts my inner game You do…
/r/seduction10/02/14 11:48 PM
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I haven't been in this situation before but here is my theory: Your confidence should not be hurt just because you are busy. It's not the stress of coursework that's hurting you, it's your response to it. My guess (correct me if I'm wrong) is that some part of you is reacting to those hard classes by saying "Oh my god. So much work. I can't do it. I can't do it. There's too much. I suck. I suck at life." And that's what's hurting your confidence, not work itself. Being busy is a good thing. It's…
/r/seduction10/02/14 10:18 PM
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It's not the coffee or tea that's boring, it's you.
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:01 PM
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I know that seddit likes to encourage the idea that pickup can happen anywhere. But seriously, there are times and places where it's just not feasible to do do. Zipping by on a bike, taking a shit, and getting arrested are a few examples. If you wanna have time to talk to a girl moving in the opposite direction, get off your bike and walk too.
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:58 PM
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Don't text her until before the date to confirm it. If she flakes it's because she wasn't that into you, not because you didn't text her enough.
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:53 PM
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Have her come to you Wherever you want man, we don't know what your city has to offer. She's not old enough to drink so you will probably have to do something else. Generally dinner does not make the best first date but it is better than nothing. If you do do dinner, do not take her to an expensive place and then pay for it. Whatever is appropriate for your venue. In general, something nice and put together. /r/malefashionadvice Yes.
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:49 PM
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Im ready to approach, and i now know how Um, no you don't. I'm really not sure what you're asking other than... everything.
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:43 PM
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Not saying I'm a master in any way, but I'm at a point where I feel comfortable and confident with my abilities to talk to girls and game them. From the time I first picked up PUA material to my first legitimate approach, about a year. From my first cold approach to actually feeling somewhat alpha, about 15 months. From then until now, about 18 months. But I would say I've been in my current state for a good 6 months or so, so altogether? 3 years 3 months.
/r/seduction10/02/14 12:57 AM
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Next time try changing names in your story so they don't all start with J. Was hard to keep track of who's who. Let's not forget that Jane is your friend's sister. Now I'm not saying that you can never date a friend's sister, but from what you said it doesn't seem like you two hit it off super well, which means you run the risk of coming off as the douche that won't leave someone's sister alone. Plus, because of this, she's more likely to see you as off-limits. Even if you do get with her, if yo…
/r/seduction09/02/14 10:45 PM
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I meant examples of things you do, not what the girls do. I already know that you believe they find you weird, but you're not a reliable source. I know what you mean. I don't think it's the straight face, because I almost always have a straight face as well. It's probably what you're saying. People get confused when you try to joke about something they don't fully understand, or if what you're saying is not extreme enough to obviously be a joke. Also, sarcasm doesn't really come off well with a …
/r/seduction09/02/14 12:58 AM
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the way you say things and the words you use." Examples? If they liked you for it, then obviously it's not the bad type of weird, it's the type you should be proud of. There's a difference between that kind of weird and the creepy kind that turns people off.
/r/seduction09/02/14 12:34 AM
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It's hard to tell you what's wrong without actually watching these interactions. But what I can say is that there's a lot of factors that you need to consider. Your body language, tonality, facial expression, your fashion sense, and your looks all can make a difference. They don't mean to, but girls (and really all human beings) will subconsciously make snap judgments about you based on all those things. If there are weaknesses or incongruencies in there, they will pick it up and it will make th…
/r/seduction09/02/14 12:17 AM
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You can also look for her outside of class, around campus. "Hey, you're in my class right? I'm gatman93..."
/r/seduction08/02/14 08:57 PM
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that I can't get women. And as long as you focus on this, you probably never will, sadly. Hasn't your life up until this point proven that?
/r/seduction08/02/14 08:40 PM
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Stop treating your interactions with her as a means to an end, but rather as an end in itself. Don't talk to her for the goal of showing her you like her, talk to her for the sake of talking to her and having a fun conversation. If it goes somewhere and you get a date, great. If it doesn't... great, because you got a conversation and that's all you wanted, right?
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:49 AM
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Make a list of all the positive qualities about yourself that women would be lucky to have. Maybe you're smart, maybe you've got a lot of money, maybe you're good at telling jokes. Doesn't matter what they are, just be honest with yourself. You'll see that you've got a lot more going for you than you think. Out of all the things you dislike about yourself, pick out the things that you can change, and change them. One at a time, one step at a time. Maybe you're too fat, maybe you don't have enoug…
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:44 AM
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One step at a time friend just keep working your way up
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:39 AM
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My mind was blown more by that last sentence than anything else in the article. Still worth the read though. Didn't learn anything new but it was inspiring and that's valuable in itself.
/r/seduction07/02/14 04:10 AM
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Here are some tips to give you a quick jump start, but like I said before I suggest you really spend some time and learn about stuff, especially inner game. You won't get a lot of success from this subreddit on a stop and go basis, these ideas take time to implement into your life so soak them in. Stop worrying about your height. As a matter of fact, never let it cross your mind again unless you're going on a roller coaster. Same goes for anything else about you that you cannot change. Hit the g…
/r/seduction07/02/14 03:36 AM
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Dude, your post makes me cringe. You have a horrible attitude and that's why you don't succeed with girls. You focus on things about yourself that you can't change, and you basically said you put 90% of girls on a giant pedestal. That's not going to get you anywhere. Seriously, spend some time here, read the sidebar, read the posts, read everything, and improve yourself as a man. Stop wallowing in a pool of self-pity, pick yourself up, and have the courage to go for what you want in life.
/r/seduction07/02/14 03:13 AM
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Maybe these skinny guys aren't bitter and jealous of what they don't have.
/r/seduction07/02/14 03:05 AM
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IMO, online dating can be beneficial. As with anything else, it depends on how you use it. If you use it as a crutch (which I suspect is the case with you), then it might not work as well for you. With online dating, yes, it can take the edge off of approach anxiety by letting you set up dates from behind the computer screen. But once you meet the girl, you still have to be on your game in pretty much all other ways. In my experience, no matter how many conversations you've had with a girl onlin…
/r/seduction07/02/14 03:00 AM
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My friend, if there's one thing you should learn about talking to girls and gaming them, it's that there is no system override to overcome your anxiety. Period. Stop thinking about it, and go talk to her/them. That's the only way. Here's the thing. A lot of people think that just because a girl shows what you imagine to be an IOI, or she seems like she wants to kiss you, or she appears attracted to you, it means that you've got game and you're some sort of pimp. Well guess what? None of that mea…
/r/seduction04/02/14 11:22 PM
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I like it. It's like you're snowballing - either you get the girl or she becomes part of your social proof which helps you get more girls.
/r/seduction03/02/14 11:46 PM
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I got on this road for the same reason that most people do - I was frustrated and lonely, couldn't get any (attractive) girls, and was determined to do something about it. I wasn't all that bad starting off though. I had my first girlfriend when I was 15 and got to 3rd base with her, so I wasn't as hopeless as some people, but I was definitely a chode. I dated her because she basically approached me and made all the moves, and even then I still messed everything up. Needless to say, she dumped m…
/r/seduction03/02/14 11:27 PM
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Wear a fedora.
/r/seduction03/02/14 10:23 PM
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Idk why I always end up telling this story but I guess it's a little funny: Up until like the 7th grade I didn't know how sex worked, and you know how they call it "sleeping together?" Well I thought that if you fell asleep next to a girl they would end up pregnant.
/r/seduction03/02/14 06:38 PM
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Glad I could help
/r/seduction03/02/14 06:29 PM
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I think you need to dig a little deeper and do some introspection. Here's why: no one ever said that picking up women and having a lot of sex is always good, and not having sex is always bad. It's natural sometimes to not want to do pick-up for a while, and focus on other things in your life and be perfectly happy otherwise. But I have the feeling that's not why you're here, because if you were truly happy you wouldn't consider this a "problem," would you? When we develop oneitis it's really, re…
/r/seduction03/02/14 01:09 AM
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There are so many different ways to paint the same picture. If you ask someone to be your valentine in a high status kind of way (almost jokingly, detached to the outcome) it can definitely work. Of course you can also ask them in a chodey way and screw it up for yourself. It's all dependent on your execution, as with any other approach.
/r/seduction03/02/14 12:53 AM
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If she told you she sees you as a friend, then she's not attracted to you. Doesn't mean she didn't have a good time on your dates, but she's just not interested in having a sexual relationship with you. Having said that, is it possible to "get her back?" Maybe, maybe not. Is it worth your time to try? Absolutely not. You obviously have the ability to attract girls and go on dates with them, so do it again. Avoid the downward oneitis spiral.
/r/seduction02/02/14 03:21 AM
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I would only consider it a red flag if she flakes on the party too. I doubt the homework excuse meant anything.
/r/seduction02/02/14 12:59 AM
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Ignore this guy. I mean... he posted this comment in another subreddit - you really think he knows anything about this stuff? Sounds like a bitter AFC to me. You will be fine going alone. From the looks of this thread you've got your shit together so I'm not worried at all. Stay confident, have a good time, and you can't lose.
/r/seduction02/02/14 12:48 AM
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You have to see if she treats other guys the same way.
/r/seduction01/02/14 08:55 PM
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Really hard to say man. There are a lot of variables that go into each interaction: you, the girl, your chemistry, people around you, etc. With girl #1, you could have been escalating too fast. Maybe she really was dared and wasn't really that into you. You'll never know. Seems to me you had the best chance with girl #2. You shouldn't have gotten upset and rejected her just because she asked for a drink. It's possible that's all she was after from you, but you could have given it a little more e…
/r/seduction01/02/14 08:53 PM
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If you're getting compliments on your hair, you are probably fine. Don't change something that is working for you. But you can always call up a higher-end salon and explain to them that you're looking for a new hairstyle and want professional opinions. Most will give you a free consultation but you'll want to be prepared to spend some cash if you do end up letting them cut your hair. I have zero experience with alternative girls so I can't tell you what they tend to go for, but there are two sch…
/r/seduction01/02/14 08:43 PM
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There's nothing you can do to change your looks per se, but there are plenty of little easy things you can do to enhance it and compensate. Get a good haircut that complements your the shape of your face. So many Asians have either a short fuzzy haired look or some sort of bowl cut, neither of which are attractive. Dress well. A big difference between boys and men is how they dress. If you're dressing like a kid and going out with an oversized t shirt and cargo shorts or something like that, it'…
/r/seduction01/02/14 07:33 PM
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It's not really about being invested (you'll actually want to be careful how invested you seem to be), but rather about taking an interest in her and being genuinely nice (not the nice-guy kind of nice). The reason why it only starts out great is the same reason why jerks get laid all the time but everyone complains about them and no one wants to be in a relationship with them. You are attractive to girls, so be glad you have that going for you. But beyond that great first impression, you'll wan…
/r/seduction01/02/14 12:42 AM
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Going off of this: don't focus on the whats, focus on the whys. "How was work?" "Good." But why was it good? What happened that made it good? "Got any plans for the weekend?" "Yup, gonna go for a hike?" Why do you wanna go for a hike? What are you feeling/thinking etc., that makes you feel like you need to go for a hike? Finally, this is also where having an exciting and fulfilling life comes into play. If you do the same thing every single day: go to work, come home, watch some TV, go to bed, t…
/r/seduction31/01/14 11:49 PM
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It would help to have some specific examples, but my hunch is that yes, you're probably taking some concepts too far. There has to be balance: nice guys usually treat a girl like she's the center of his universe, which is why all this material teaches the opposite. But there exists the opposite end of the spectrum as well. You can definitely be too mean or make her feel too insignificant for her to want to stay with you. I wouldn't worry too much though. This is usually a natural thing that happ…
/r/seduction31/01/14 11:39 PM
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Didn't read the article but just based on your statement, disagree. Consenting is consenting, whether it happens now, 5 minutes from now, or a day from now. If your girlfriend isn't in the mood to have sex today but she is tomorrow, did you rape her just because there was an instance where she didn't want to in the past? Not surprising at all that some feminist website would come up with that though.
/r/seduction31/01/14 11:34 PM
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Generally it is not taking advantage but it depends how drunk she is. If she can barely stand up and put a sentence together, stay away from her (sexually). That's just a liability for you. But if she's tipsy and knows what she's doing, perfectly fine to go for it.
/r/seduction31/01/14 10:35 PM
1

Several points: There aren't (barely) any women here. If you want a woman's opinion try /r/askwomen although you'll probably be better off here. If a girl gives an excuse when you ask for a number, then either she's unavailable or not interested in you. A girl who is both interested in you and available will always give it out. As Psychonaut said, numbers are not the end goal, not even close. Just because you have a number doesn't mean much, only that you made a favorable first impression. Spend…
/r/seduction30/01/14 12:37 AM
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You just have to get past the good looks. You are (whether consciously or subconsciously) putting these girls on a pedestal, therefore you place a lot more pressure on yourself to perform, and that's where you come off as anxious and creepy (because you are). There's really no better advice than to "just stop caring." There is no system override to get over it. Practice makes perfect. The more time you spend talking to pretty girls, the less you will be intimidated by their looks. Yes, you will …
/r/seduction29/01/14 05:03 PM
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No. Not in that way at least - you still wanna keep things classy haha. If you go up to a girl and say "hey, I couldn't help but notice you across the room and I just had to meet you," it makes it pretty clear why you're talking to her. That's a confident, but vulnerable approach - she can easily say "sorry, I have a boyfriend but it's nice meeting you!" and reject your approach (talking from experience here). If you say "hey, can you tell me what the time is?" as an excuse to talk to her, it ma…
/r/seduction29/01/14 06:03 AM
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My understanding of Mark's definition of vulnerability is basically making your intentions known and allowing yourself the possibility of being rejected, as opposed to trying to "trick" a girl into bed with you or making it hard for the girl to say no. Putting yourself on the line is respectable, confident, and masculine, and that's what ultimately works. As for my personal experience - this strategy is one I use and the only one I've ever used. I don't profess to be some PUA god but it gets me …
/r/seduction28/01/14 09:29 PM
1

Based on what you said here, my best guess is that you straight up established yourself as a friend, and she's probably not interested in dating you. Here's how I came to these conclusions: You straight up TOLD her that you are just a friend. You asked her "out" but did not make it seem like a date You did not flirt with her You agreed with everything she said You shook her hand at the end of your "date" You demonstrated neediness by texting her excessively afterwards She doesn't respond to you …
/r/seduction28/01/14 12:41 AM
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Your first red flag was when she spent all that time on FB during your first date. This means she wasn't that interested in you in the first place. Of course, she was interested enough to go out with you so if you had played your cards right you could have saved the relationship. You should have called her out on her disrespectful behavior. That kind thing is not grounds to ditch her entirely, but you should have been prepared to walk away instead of getting all attached. All those texts afterwa…
/r/seduction27/01/14 11:30 PM
1

I mean, anyone who told you physical appearance didn't matter is lying, and since you are missing a bunch of teeth, it probably doesn't make you more attractive. But having said that, let me give you some more food for thought. Whether or not it's a handicap, especially whether or not you realize it, doesn't change anything. The girls you didn't approach aren't going to come find you once you get your mouth fixed. You simply don't have anything to lose by approaching a girl, ever (unless you liv…
/r/seduction27/01/14 11:24 PM
1

Yeah... you already blew this one out of the water. Sorry bud, time to forget about her.
/r/seduction27/01/14 11:18 PM
2

If I saw someone I knew hitting on a girl I'd think "good for him," unless he was being annoying about it or getting in my way somehow. People meet other people all the time though, especially in college. You're not publicly proposing to put your dick inside her, so no one will think twice about you talking.
/r/seduction27/01/14 03:37 AM
5

I agree with all but the last tip. Most people who are socially anxious think too much already, and need to get out of their heads. They should practice thinking less and just going with the flow.
/r/seduction27/01/14 03:27 AM
1

Lol, you sound like a serial killer. Dance with her, talk with your body. Isolation happens when you're about to close, not when you've just approached. Other than that, read the sidebar.
/r/seduction27/01/14 03:24 AM
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Tip 1: Tap her on the shoulder while she's wearing her headphones, say hi, introduce yourself. You'll want to keep the conversation extremely short to let her get back to her workout, though. Generally not recommended because most people don't like being bothered in the gym, especially if they have headphones in. Tip 2: You missed your greatest chance when you guys smiled at each other. No advice for this other than to work on your AA. Tip 3: Learn how to not care when there are people in earsho…
/r/seduction27/01/14 03:19 AM
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Pretty impossible to tell. It could be almost anything: She lost interest in you Your interactions weren't as great as you thought She just wanted some male attention those couple nights She was busy today and couldn't respond on the ball She's having a bad day and doesn't feel like talking You have a hyperactive imagination The point is though, it doesn't matter. It is what it is, and if she's being distant, then you should play your respective card: backing off and carrying on with your life. …
/r/seduction27/01/14 01:04 AM
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More details would help but it sounds like you are charging head first into a last-minute resistance and then giving up because of it. Firstly, you're going to have to get used to this happening a lot. Girls generally don't like to go from just meeting a guy to opening their legs in one fluid motion because no girl likes to feel like a slut. So sometimes they will put up a resistance just as a token of their dignity. But the fact that they invite you back to their place shows that they're probab…
/r/seduction27/01/14 12:45 AM
2

No, don't. That's not practicing seduction, that's just taking what's practically been given to you, which is basically the opposite of we teach here. Secondly, you did not mention that you like this girl at all. That means you'd be "seducing" her purely to get into her pants without a challenge. That's a pretty selfish thing to do and it's going to end in hurt for her and probably for you too. Keep her as a friend (she sounds like a good one), and get out there and practice actively approaching…
/r/seduction27/01/14 12:25 AM
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Not sure if you already acted on this or not, but personally I think you should just leave it. Like you suspect, she's probably going to find it a little creepy that you find her on FB without even so much as a last name. She's not going to believe a "friend helped you find it" story. Secondly, don't apologize. She's not the one you punched. Third, I'm not a girl expert by any means, but my guess is she's probably in a weird situation where she's attracted to you and might even think it's hot th…
/r/seduction26/01/14 03:58 AM
2

Nah, she lost interest. On to the next one
/r/seduction26/01/14 03:30 AM
5

The mindset is putting attractive girls on a pedestal. Look past the good looks and treat them like the girls you don't find attractive.
/r/seduction19/01/14 02:45 AM
2

Personally I think bars are more difficult. It might just be my imagination but I feel like when you approach in a bar there's a whole stigma associated with that, like everyone who sees you is like "that guy is totally trying to pick up that girl." Whereas in daygame it can appear a lot more casual/innocent.
/r/seduction18/01/14 05:35 AM
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I guess I'm overthinking this alot because usually I can make conversation with ANYONE and then hit off from there There you go. Don't put her on a pedestal and you'll be just fine
/r/seduction17/01/14 07:43 PM
2

Got a couple more tips for you based on what you just told me. When talking to girls (and really people in general) you'll want to focus on the whys rather than the whats. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't actually care what she's studies or which sports she likes - you are looking for something in common that you can share. And you don't really share "interests" despite what everyone says - you share feelings that come from those interests. A girl might "like" to go to t…
/r/seduction17/01/14 05:05 PM
1

Yeah, for a good reason
/r/seduction17/01/14 02:20 AM
2

How long are you taking to talk about all those things with her? If you cover all those topics in under a couple hours, you're going way too fast and you're probably interviewing her. I imagine that's the only circumstance where you can cover so many topics and still run out of things to say in one night. While she's talking, listen carefully. When she mentions something you have in common or something you're passionate about, then talk about that for a while. There's no need to hurry on to the …
/r/seduction17/01/14 02:18 AM
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Your joke about studying anatomy is overused and kinda creepy. At least you didn't use a wink though. Don't try to keep the text conversation for too long beyond the meeting logistics. It sounds like you're done discussing meeting up so maybe a couple more lines of conversation at most, wrap it up, and try again later. It sounds like she's still interested in you but doesn't wanna put in the commute to meet you. Given that, it's up to you. If you think visiting her wherever she is is worth it, t…
/r/seduction17/01/14 02:12 AM
1

Just assume that it's a date and do everything you would do as if it is. If you start talking about it and she tells you it's not a date, feign shock and betrayal. Kino, and escalate slowly.
/r/seduction16/01/14 12:10 AM
2

Projecting a vibe is different from directly telling someone that. But yes, that is the vibe you should be putting out
/r/seduction15/01/14 08:07 PM
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If both of you keep rescheduling out of spite, it's never gonna happen. I'd say go for it, and if she plays games or flakes, next her.
/r/seduction15/01/14 07:57 PM
1

Hey, I wanna have sex with you for one night and never see you again This is bad (in most cases anyway) Hey, I think you're cute and wanna take you on a date This is good, and something like this is preferable to avoid and misunderstanding (aka friend zone) Hey, I like you but I'm seeing a few other women and am not ready to settle and be exclusive with anyone yet This may either hurt or help you depending on girl and circumstance, but if your relationship is headed in that path it is necessary …
/r/seduction15/01/14 05:27 PM
1

Really interesting. Thanks for your answers
/r/seduction14/01/14 09:57 PM
2

Another question: I find that a lot of the girls that I succeed with tend to want a relationship with me, when that's not something I'm after. This is probably due to a couple reasons: I have standards even when it comes to hooking up, and girls who come off as the slutty ONS type just aren't that attractive to me. Most of my successes occur because I make a genuine emotional connection with the girls rather than physical seduction (probably because I'm more of a day gamer) So, tips on how to ma…
/r/seduction14/01/14 08:25 PM
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What are the ways that you use to get yourself into "the zone" and fired up before you go out and approach women? A lot of times after a long day at work I'm feeling tired, stressed, unconfident, and not in the mood to go out, and therefore it becomes more of a chore to do it. Obviously, I don't do nearly as well under those circumstances as when I am confident, energetic, and excited to meet people. Tips?
/r/seduction14/01/14 08:20 PM
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Take a look at the side bar ----> There are articles there (like this one) and a lot of frequently discussed material. It's a great place to start. Of course, you can also look into seduction/inner game books but remember that spending money is definitely not necessary to improve yourself, although they can be a great help. As for rushing the date, I know how you feel. I also like to confirm things and have my days planned well in advance, but unfortunately it doesn't work that well in dating. A…
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:59 AM
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The fastest way (and a band-aid solution) is to stop acting needy. Can you identify your specific behaviors that give off this vibe? If you can, then make an effort to catch yourself before you do them. Eventually you'll learn better habits. The hard (but permanent way) is to work on your inner game. You act needy for a reason, and that's because you're not fully secure. You get your value from what other people give you, and not what you give yourself, and therefore you'll try to seek that out …
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:28 AM
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You're right in saying that it's probably got to do with you being uncomfortable and anxious in general. Fix your inner game and everything will settle into place. But as for eye contact, you can work on that specifically. You're freaking out mostly because you're getting caught off guard, so practice doing it on purpose until you subconsciously realize it's not a big deal. Just look at people when you walk by them (not in a weird way - don't make faces) and resist the urge to look away when you…
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:22 AM
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No, you are fine. I'm not a girl either. By the way, this question is better suited for /r/askwomen because this has nothing to do with seduction, and there are very few ladies in this subreddit.
/r/seduction13/01/14 09:36 PM
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Sending a message is fine but your message sucks. Cut out all that disclaimer crap. Why not just say "Hey, I had fun talking to you at that party. Do you wanna go climbing with me this week?"
/r/seduction13/01/14 08:08 PM
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Girls (and people in general) will reciprocate the energy you put out in your interactions, so yes, your friend is right. Good luck
/r/seduction11/01/14 05:27 AM
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You probably didn't totally ruin things with her. But don't try to hook up with your friends man
/r/seduction11/01/14 05:24 AM
1

Scarcity principle my friend.
/r/seduction08/01/14 02:53 AM
1

Are you friend zoned?
/r/seduction08/01/14 02:27 AM
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I'm not surprised he laid some of the negatives. Those women would not have responded at all if they weren't at least a little interested/curious
/r/seduction07/01/14 03:16 AM
1

Are you trying to get laid, or are you trying to make friends?
/r/seduction30/12/13 03:19 AM
2

Um, just do it? Part of the way I gauge how well I'm doing as a man in this life is how many risks I'm taking (with regards to improving myself, not like reckless driving). It takes guts to put yourself put there and risk that rejection and hurt, but it's something that you have to do if you want to get better. There's so much potential for success out there. Just think, every day you probably walk by at least one girl who would be willing to go to bed with you. You just gotta find her. Like rid…
/r/seduction30/12/13 03:17 AM
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You aren't using Seddit right if this is what you're getting out of it. One glance at your post and I can tell you your problems don't come from your weight or your interests or your conversational skills. It's all in your head. You've got a really negative attitude about this whole situation, and I'll bet it carries over to your interactions with women as well, which is what turns them off. I can't say that I don't know how you feel though. I've been there, but I went on this self improvement j…
/r/seduction30/12/13 03:10 AM
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Just shrug it off. Don't try to come up with some BS "high-value" reason and don't give her some depressing life story. The truth is, you just haven't, and that's all you need to tell her
/r/seduction30/12/13 01:48 AM
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It's as simple as opening your mouth and saying something. If you're quick-thinking, make a comment about whatever is going on. If not, "Hi, how are you?" will do just fine.
/r/seduction30/12/13 01:45 AM
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Some girls just like to have random guys on their phone that they can chat up/feel good about, but aren't actually attracted to. I doubt it has anything to do with the way you're asking her - if she likes you enough she would want to meet up, but right now you'll just have to assume she's not interested in you. Keep talking to her if you want, next her if you want, but don't expect anything great to come from her.
/r/seduction29/12/13 01:06 AM
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I've never had this issue. This is just my opinion but I think that the whole ten days' silent treatment is kind of catty, and you would have to be pretty invested in somebody to count the number of days between texts with them, don't you think? Here's what I think. With girls who you don't know very well and are trying to build attraction with, you (as a general rule) do not want to send another text after not hearing from her, because it comes off as needy. Especially texts that ask about the …
/r/seduction28/12/13 03:45 AM
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I've heard direct approaches are better for day game, and indirect at bars/clubs. In theory this makes good sense, but you have to keep in mind it's all about how you execute it. If you go around telling girls they're cute but you come off as anxious/creepy, you're going to fail all the time, no matter where you are and no matter how much it works for other guys. I personally avoid straight up telling a girl she's cute. It's just not my style. Go out, practice both ways, and do what works better…
/r/seduction28/12/13 03:34 AM
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Indoor venue. Coffee shops, some sort of show (stand up, etc), museums, art galleries and exhibits, free classes (especially dance classes), arcades, indoor ice skating, laser tag, indoor mini golf, movies (not recommended but it is an option) Edit: you could go to a store that has stuff you two have in common (records, etc). Or you could just drive around "exploring" your town. Sounds boring but I've had some very unexpectedly good conversations while driving to our venue in the past.
/r/seduction28/12/13 02:48 AM
2

You can go on and on but I believe everything will fall into 2 categories: power and value
/r/seduction26/12/13 11:54 PM
5

Overdid or not, there's nothing else you can do about the situation. Move on and if she contacts you, great, if not, not a big deal there's plenty more opportunities to practice.
/r/seduction22/12/13 03:34 AM
2

Don't try to memorize anything. It's the fastest way to come off as unnatural and rehearsed. At this point the best tip you can memorize is to forget about the second date or trying to get her back to your place, but to focus on creating a fun and relaxed experience for both of you.
/r/seduction21/12/13 12:06 AM
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My advice would be to keep texting and online convos to a minimum - I'm sure you've heard this before because it's been discussed 1000 times here. But general tips are to just be witty, funny, not too serious. You have the potential to be funnier and wittier than you are IRL because you have time to think about your response. Don't respond with anything dead-end (like "ok" or "cool"). Make sure to use smileys and stuff like that especially when you are joking because sarcasm can easily get lost …
/r/seduction20/12/13 11:30 PM
1

If she meant the L word she would have used the L word. It's probably just an expression of endearment. Don't read so much into it
/r/seduction17/12/13 01:07 AM
1

Smile slightly, try not to have a serious/concentration face (if you're an introvert this may be your problem), have open body language, be alone (or at least not surrounded by friends all the time)
/r/seduction17/12/13 01:00 AM
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Sounds like a good way to start. Once you find yourself a good following you'll be able to make better sales. Do research the laws in your state regarding surveillance though before you break out the hidden mics. As for qualifications, it all depends. Obviously there's no Ph.D. in seduction, but if you had a degree in psychology or something like that, it would be worth mentioning. Look up successful self-help and seduction books and see how the authors qualify themselves to you. A lot of times …
/r/seduction17/12/13 12:45 AM
2

First you have to establish yourself as an expert. If you have a degree in something related to that, it'll help. If not, you're going to have to establish your expertise anecdotally and empirically. It goes without saying that you yourself have to be charismatic and good at seduction in the eyes of your audience. Next, you'll have to create a product of some sort, whether it be a personal coaching program, a e-coaching program, a book, a youtube channel, or preferably all of the above. Gotta ma…
/r/seduction16/12/13 11:31 PM
1

With day game it's extremely important to make your intentions clear. When you approach in a casual day environment it's easy for the girl to think you're just being friendly and talkative. You will rarely be able to get a girl home right away. At night, especially in a club, the girls are already "warmed up" and will generally take your approach as an expression of interest and attraction right off the bat.
/r/seduction16/12/13 11:26 PM
8

If you are just friends, it means you are staying that way. If you've been seeing each other, it means just that
/r/seduction16/12/13 11:21 PM
1

Always kino, but remember that daytime kino moves a little slower than nighttime kino, so don't push anything if you don't see a good opportunity to escalate. Having said that, high fives, brushing against her as you walk by, are all viable. If you see that you're better at pool than she is, there's no problem with "teaching" her a couple tricks. If she's kicking your ass, you could even ask her to teach you.
/r/seduction16/12/13 05:47 AM
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I don't know if there is a thread but you just gotta do it - it's a lot like night game except you want to be less overtly sexual and have more content in your conversations basically. Why do you have trouble approaching people in public
/r/seduction15/12/13 04:54 PM
2

Malls, libraries, parks, streets, stores, coffee shops... seriously some of you guys are really uncreative.
/r/seduction15/12/13 02:20 AM
1

Here we like to say that you have zero inner game. Work on that, read the sidebar, and don't make a big deal out of your date (or interaction with women in general).
/r/seduction15/12/13 02:15 AM
1

No one said you couldn't pick favorites. Avoiding oneitis doesn't mean you go around sleeping with 5+ women at all times, it simply means you don't start revolving your whole life around one girl. Oneitis isn't inherently bad per se, but it makes it extremely easy to fall into a pattern of putting that girl on a pedestal, becoming needy, heavily invested, not seeing your other options, and therefore killing attraction. That's the key point here. If you can keep attraction levels high and still f…
/r/seduction15/12/13 02:11 AM
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Asking where the bathrooms are isn't the best opener IMHO. There's no way to gracefully transition from that to telling her she looks cool. When people ask about bathrooms, it's usually because they need to go use one, and so when they instead hang around and start chatting you up, it gets weird. Next time, use the lame openers to warm up on the "not so attractive" girls so you have the courage to approach the cute ones with something better.
/r/seduction15/12/13 12:47 AM
1

This was one of the tools they used. Pretty cool stuff.
/r/seduction13/12/13 02:56 AM
1

Have you tried the theory of mind test that they used?
/r/seduction13/12/13 02:31 AM
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Used to be in your same position. I am definitely an introvert and I never liked being in group conversations (I still don't). My best tip for you is: when someone is saying something to the whole group, act and respond as you would if he were talking directly to you, one on one.
/r/seduction13/12/13 01:02 AM
1

I don't believe it distinguished between literary and non-literary nonfiction, so idk if it would make a difference or not. I enjoy fiction more anyway. Here's the link to the pdf if you're interested, although it's a pretty boring read.
/r/seduction12/12/13 11:44 PM
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The short answer is: I appear interested when I am, and disinterested when I'm not.
/r/seduction12/12/13 10:01 PM
1

I read the full study. Only literary fiction produced the results, nonfiction did not. The theory is that because literary fiction is not very clear cut, it leaves a lot to the imagination. You have to fill in the blanks yourself and really think about how the characters are feeling/thinking, which makes you more primed to notice subtle details in real life interactions. Popular fiction, movies, and all nonfiction spell everything out for you, and so they don't work the same way.
/r/seduction12/12/13 09:55 PM
3

I agree with your friend. It all depends on your definition of what "yourself" is. If you're currently lacking social skills, is being shy and nervous part of who you are? No, you just never had the opportunity to learn. You can absolutely change that about yourself, but it would require you to step outside of your comfort zone and grow of course. Plus, you don't know what you're naturally good at and bad at until you practice enough times.
/r/seduction12/12/13 09:52 PM
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It's hard to tell what you're doing wrong without more details about specific interactions. It could always be possible that you're doing nothing wrong -sometimes girls are just not DTF and it has nothing to do with you. 3 is not a big enough sample size to draw definitive conclusions from. Having said that, my best guess is that you are putting too much emphasis on the end goal of sex based on your statement here: Getting rejected from having sex is the most personal and brutal kind of rejectio…
/r/seduction12/12/13 09:47 PM
4

No. Cheating ruins relationships a lot of the time, and destroys trust all of the time. Just avoid oneitis
/r/TheRedPill10/12/13 01:11 AM
5

Indicators of Interest
/r/seduction10/12/13 12:17 AM
4

You probably can't and even if you could, it's not worth your time. People will always think what they want to, especially about stuff they don't understand.
/r/seduction09/12/13 07:28 PM
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Lots of acceptable places. Cupping her face/neck, on her waist, holding her hands. I like to grab a belt loop and pull her hips towards me. Just don't do nothing with your hands and you will be fine
/r/seduction09/12/13 12:25 AM
15

"What do you do for a living?" is an interview question. "You look like you do business" is a statement, although it pretty much means the same thing
/r/seduction07/12/13 05:13 AM
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You don't have to know what you love to do. You just have to go out and try things until you do. Just don't sit in your room. If you're a student, perfect, go to a few meetings with clubs that you think might interest you, and take it from there.
/r/seduction07/12/13 03:31 AM
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Look at the conversations that you have with your friends. Usually you'll just go up to them and start talking about something, right? You don't have to think because you already know that they have generally the same interests that you do, and that they'll probably share your enthusiasm for whatever it is. Talking to strangers is one step below this. The difficulty is that you don't know what their interests are, and so it's your job to determine these as soon as you can, and take the conversat…
/r/seduction07/12/13 03:25 AM
1

Contrary to what the other person said, I think you're focusing too much on the prize. Forget that you're trying to have a ONS. Just focus on enjoying the conversation, your interaction, and socializing in general. And, remember that you don't have to talk about sex. Sure, it moves things along nicely and is a great indicator of her interest, but it's not necessary and if in fact you push it in a creepy way, it's going to hurt you. The trick is to talk about things that you're interested in, whi…
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:42 PM
2

Speak clearly, and emphasize your tonality, facial expressions and body language to get the meaning across better.
/r/seduction04/12/13 01:53 AM
5

Actually I know exactly what you're saying because I used to do research too. Most of the girls around me at the time were in my field so I never had a problem with it, but maybe you could just give them a couple words about what you do instead of explaining it and having it go over her head. So for me, I would say "I do neuroscience research." To the outsider, it sounds cool and interesting (it wasn't) but if she were to press further I might say "Well, I would tell you but I don't like to talk…
/r/seduction02/12/13 11:41 PM
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Girls probably latch on to that topic because they think it's something that would keep the conversation going. It's your responsibility to steer the conversation. So say something like "I'm a PhD fellow and I do boring research. Enough about me though, what do you do?" Or something like that. Just make it clear that you don't want to talk about it
/r/seduction02/12/13 10:47 PM
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I can see what you're saying. It's probably got something to do with the pressure our society puts on girls to be modest and good which encourages them to put out that sort of image. Girls who bounce from hot guy to hot guy are gold digging, maneating whores, while guys who bounce from hot girl to hot girl are studs and alphas. But really, we're not all that different.
/r/seduction02/12/13 05:08 PM
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I think that's just a pessimistic way of looking at things. Women in general are no more dishonestly shallow than men are. How many guys have you seen pretend to be all alpha and then crumble and go beta at the sight of an attractive woman?
/r/seduction01/12/13 11:52 PM
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The important thing is do whatever is natural in the moment, and what you are comfortable with. So if you think palm reading is cheesy (I do too), then don't do it. Maybe let your legs touch under the table, but don't be looking for any and all excuses to reach across the table because that will come off as creepy.
/r/seduction01/12/13 05:00 PM
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This. If you truly gave 0 fucks you could just call her up and ask her out now. Waiting until tomorrow is better than nothing but you will have all day to dwell on it, grow your anxiety, and put pressure on yourself about it. And those are not gonna help.
/r/seduction01/12/13 04:56 PM
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Yes, too early. I would save that conversation for when you think has a chance of turning into an exclusive relationship.
/r/seduction01/12/13 04:52 PM
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"no girl is out of your league" is one of the religious mantras in the PUA community that just aren't true. A Victoria's Secret Model just isn't going to date a fat bald guy living in his mom's basement no matter how much "inner game" he has. I agree that there is a such thing as "out of your league," but the PUA community is making the point that you can play in a totally different league if you improve yourself enough. If that fat bald guy started hitting the gym and changing his body, found s…
/r/seduction01/12/13 04:50 PM
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I would just wait. Don't do anything. I bet she'll end up adding you but if she doesn't, just wait until the next lab (once a week right?) and say that you tried looking for her but there were too many girls of the same name.
/r/seduction01/12/13 02:07 AM
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I like this. This is how a guy should be, regardless of whether he's recovering from oneitis, in a relationship, married, virgin or not.
/r/seduction01/12/13 01:58 AM
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The short answer is: you should listen when you want to, not when you feel like you should, or you feel like somebody else wants you to. If someone suggests something to you and you think "hey, that could really improve my life," then you should listen. If you think "well I don't wanna make this guy mad by not taking his advice" then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. People might tell you that you need to change, but you should change when you are doing it for you and no one else. There's …
/r/seduction30/11/13 06:18 AM
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You don't have to troll, you are just talking about boring things that do not elicit an emotional response from the girl. Nobody enjoys giving directions or telling you where they're from. Ask more interesting questions, and always disclose information about yourself (without ranting). Usually, your partner will disclose about as much information about herself as you do about yourself. Aim to make it fun for both of you.
/r/seduction28/11/13 03:21 AM
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"outcome independence" may sound like indifference, but it's merely allowing yourself to have fun no matter what happens This. I would go as far as to say that people who are "outcome dependent" are actually cold and apathetic, because they don't really care what the means are as long as there is a good end for them.
/r/seduction28/11/13 03:17 AM
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A lot of guys combine approaching with seduction in their heads, and that's scary, too much pressure, and they back off. There's a video out there, I have no idea how to find it now so I'll just describe it to you. It goes something like this: Guy sees cute girl. Guy wants to approach. Internal monologue kicks in: gotta approach the girl, gotta pass her shit tests, gotta appear fun and happy, gotta plan dates, gotta go on dates, gotta escalate, gotta try to get in her pants, might get shot down,…
/r/seduction27/11/13 11:57 PM
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General rule is to only use texting to set up meetings in person. You can read all about why and stuff in the guides
/r/seduction27/11/13 11:35 PM
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Personally, I would not. It's much healthier to learn to face your fears in real time - you gain more experience and learn a lot more about yourself that way. But that being said, no one understands your situation better than you do. I've never had a crippling fear of anything before so I can't exactly put myself in your shoes. You do what you think is best for you, as long as you do it purposefully, confidently, and shamelessly.
/r/seduction27/11/13 05:25 PM
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It's less about what you do than your mindset while you're doing it. You just have to be honest with yourself and ask yourself why you're doing what you do. If you're walking with a girl and you naturally put your hand on her back as she walks through a door, that's great kino. But if you consciously force yourself to take your hand and put it on her back because you want to create attraction, you're probably coming off weird. It's all about your intentions. Does that make sense? The best kino/r…
/r/seduction27/11/13 05:20 PM
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You don't. Unless your date is a road trip you can afford to not touch her for 10 minutes and keep your hands on the wheel.
/r/seduction27/11/13 03:32 AM
1

Hand her your phone. "Hey, put your number in my phone." Done
/r/seduction27/11/13 03:30 AM
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To me it sounds like she's trying to let you know that she's not interested in anybody else, but that she's attractive enough to be pursued. I agree that you should not start talking about other dudes if you are to stay out of the friend zone. You could try turning it into a negging joke, something like "Wow you've got enough drama to make a movie out of it! So glad I'm not you" But you better make a move soon lol you can't avoid helping her every single time without it becoming weird
/r/seduction27/11/13 03:25 AM
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It's hard to say without specific examples, but my best guess is that you are coming off with the "please sleep with me" vibe and this causes girls to run away. Try working on your outcome dependence, don't seem too eager to do anything, and analyze yourself to see if you exhibit any of these behaviors, perhaps unknowingly.
/r/seduction27/11/13 03:20 AM
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I'm terrible at opener's and if I have a good opener I'm terrible at holding conversation Practice practice practice. Chat with as many people - not just girls but cashiers, bus drivers, janitors, old men and women, everyone. Learn from each one to see what you could have done better and remember, it takes two to have a conversation. You never know who could just be having a bad day and don't feel like talking. Watch some comedy movies or TV shows and pay attention to how people talk and how the…
/r/seduction27/11/13 02:32 AM
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Since he's your friend it's easy to have a conversation with him while you're not out with girls. Tell him exactly what's going on and ask him to stop, and tell him that if he doesn't, you're not gonna hang out with him anymore in that kind of environment. Here's a good video from Elliot Hulse that deals with this exact situation.
/r/seduction27/11/13 12:13 AM
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We don't either, since you gave us next to no info about how you acted on said date
/r/seduction26/11/13 03:07 AM
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In America it's common courtesy to not assume exclusivity until it's verbally confirmed, or at least until you've dated a few times
/r/seduction25/11/13 11:40 PM
1

holding conversation with attractive women This is your answer right here: you're putting them on a pedestal because they are good looking. Get past the looks and see them for the human beings that they really are. Easier said than done of course, but practice makes perfect. You have to practice approaching if you wanna be good at it - there's no way around that. Just remember that all the fear is inside your head.
/r/seduction25/11/13 05:14 PM
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9/10 times they'll say no white good looking 6ft+ guy with impeccable fashion sense These are just some of your limiting beliefs and are extremely common with beginners. I don't wanna write a whole wall of text arguing these points but let me just say this: Don't pay attention to what a woman says, look at what they do. Secondly, you don't have to be 6ft, "good looking" is a much more loose term with women than it is with men, and your fashion sense doesn't have to be impeccable, although you sh…
/r/seduction25/11/13 05:11 PM
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saying it's chill and I'm looking to just hang and that her breakup sounds rough and I'm sorry to hear that That sounds like your ticket to the friend zone. My advice is to actually cut her off interaction with her by 90%, and start hooking up with other girls to cure your oneitis. By putting up with her behavior and even rewarding her by saying it's okay and that you're there to listen to her breakup sob story, you're only going to get more of the same in the future. You absolutely have to esta…
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:44 AM
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Read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover Amazon link here It's a super easy read and applies 100% to you all the way down to the attracting insecure women part. But to sum up the important parts in a few words, you need to start doing things for yourself instead of for other people. Be selfish, not in a way that hurts others but in a way that puts your needs ahead of others because at the end of the day, you are the most important person in your life.
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:33 AM
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sometimes they just don't want to be bothered Trust me, this is an excuse you tell yourself to get out of approaching. Of course, if a girl is walking briskly down the street then you're probably right to conclude that, but apart from some obvious circumstances, you'd be surprised. Our society conditions us to run around with my heads down minding our own business, but it's human nature to want to socialize. You may think you don't normally want to be bothered, but you cannot honestly tell me yo…
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:22 AM
1

You can literally meet girls anywhere. I don't have a particular place that I designate for it, but I make sure that I create a lifestyle that makes it easier. For example, if I've got some work to do on my laptop, instead of sitting at home, I will bring it to a cafe. Instead of jogging on a treadmill, I will take it to the park and say hi to people as I run by, and strike up a conversation with those I'm interested in. There are tons of little things you can do like that. I'm rarely at home ev…
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:13 AM
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/r/seduction25/11/13 02:43 AM
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I don't think you identified the problem correctly. If you have your shit together, you can flirt with girls in any environment - you don't have to be at a club. You can make connections with girls almost anywhere: mall, grocery store, library, college campus, you name it. I personally actually avoid clubbing because it's just not my scene, I'm naturally introverted and hate loud and crowded environments, and so I'm never comfortable there. Why put myself at a disadvantage? Your obstacle isn't w…
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:39 AM
1

"Give you my phone so you can put it in, duh"
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:35 AM
1

So this article wasn't pua exactly but the implications are huge. A photographer takes strangers and poses them as friends, family, or lovers and afterwards the subjects said that they felt a true connection with the stranger(s), even though it was awkward at first. So what does this mean for us? Assume attraction, act like you're already a couple, and KINO
/r/seduction24/11/13 01:26 AM
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Well you're right in thinking that. But the reason that's unattractive is because guys worship for the ulterior motive of making the girl like them. "Look at me, I'm so nice to you, you should have sex with me" that sort of thing. It's not an honest and genuine human reaction to worship somebody for their looks. Have you read Models by Mark Manson? I think you'll benefit a lot from it. He talks about how to stay honest with your intentions and how to BE attractive, not just ACT attractive.
/r/seduction21/11/13 04:10 AM
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Honestly I'm not too sure what the issue is. Three dimensionally? I think you might be overthinking things here. Don't objectify her, don't put her on a pedestal. Just treat her like a human being, that's all there is to it. I think the issue you may be having is with being genuine. Don't tell her she is smart, funny, and sexy to try and get her to like you. If your bro dressed up and looked like hot shit one day, would you tell him that? If he smelled like shit, would you give him a hard time a…
/r/seduction21/11/13 03:41 AM
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It depends how you want to approach it. You can come straight out and say tell them what's going on, essentially "breaking up" with your friends, although the downside of this is coming off as kind of a douchebag. The way I would recommend is to just live your life regardless of what they're doing. Don't try to encourage them or convince them to see your ways. They've already proven that they won't. If they won't go out with you or be your wingmen, then go out by yourself. Doesn't mean you need …
/r/seduction21/11/13 03:28 AM
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I personally wouldn't venture into this territory but it's up to you. If you're getting the signals and you think that's something you want to go for, then go for it. But also realize that you could be the cause of some serious fallout between her and her BF or even her BF and you if stuff happens and gets out. Further, you can't be 100% sure that she's willing to do stuff with you. A lot of girls enjoy the attention that they get from other guys while they're in relationships, but their morals …
/r/seduction20/11/13 12:31 AM
1

My opinion is that this is one of those things that you can't change, and so it's not worth stressing out about. The most that you can do is be honest and upfront about the fact that you get cold sores every once in a while, which most people do. But I think you would be comforted to know that in fact more than half of all people "have herpes simplex I," but the majority of them do not have chronic, recurring cold sores (only open sores are contagious). Some even never experience a single cold s…
/r/seduction19/11/13 12:56 AM
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If I do see this girl in the future, am going to ignore her and let her chase me (or any tips on what to do?). If you were truly over your oneitis and didn't care anymore, you wouldn't be concerned with this. Just live your life man. If she does happen to reappear and chase you again, then you decide if that's something you want to explore or not. It's as simple as that. Focus on becoming the man you want to be, and just do you.
/r/seduction18/11/13 06:17 PM
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It looks like you'll be a little limited in that regard. My suggestion is you could just practice #-closes, and then just turn them into friendships or something. But I think that if you're in a relationship and still wanna "practice seduction," you might wanna think twice about being tied down.
/r/seduction09/11/13 05:54 AM
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You're supposed to let her do most of the talking, you're just the one steering the conversation and usually girls will tip you off on what they want to be talking about next. But watch this video though it'll help a lot especially with the awkward silences I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI
/r/seduction08/11/13 11:02 PM
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I totally know how you feel. You have to be honest with yourself, because at the end of the day, YOU are the most important person in your life, not her or anybody else. If you can't see yourself being with her forever, then you cannot allow yourself the mistake of marrying her. I think that improving yourself and wanting to be with other women who will provide you with more than she does is a perfectly good reason, in fact it's the same reason I broke things off with my last girlfriend. It's tr…
/r/seduction07/11/13 09:09 PM
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The more you think that these girls get put on a pedestal by normal dudes, the less you should do the same. You have to stand out. Also remember that value is really subjective. I always try not to assign values or numbers to girls because it makes it that much easier to put them on that pedestal. It's either interested and approach, or not interested and don't approach.
/r/seduction06/11/13 11:32 PM
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You have to lead the conversation. Sure, she does most of the talking, but eventually there will be lulls and pauses in the conversation where you get the chance to change directions if you want to. So if she starts complaining and emotionally dumping on you, it's your job to change the subject and talk about something else and not sit there and be the tampon. Also, you have to be able to see this coming and take action as early as possible because if she's practically been crying on your should…
/r/seduction06/11/13 11:26 PM
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Don't be so outcome dependent buddy. Just be in the moment, focus on making the experience fun for BOTH of you, and things will fall into place. A lot of guys think the f or k is where the effort goes, but really it goes into all the time leading up to that. If you did well, the f or k practically happens on its own.
/r/seduction06/11/13 11:20 PM
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It's more poisonous than a lot of us think. Not only does it ruin your psyche during that moment but if other girls see you getting shot down and looking all butthurt and dejected, you're at a huge disadvantage if you end up approaching them later on. While you're sulking a great girl might walk right past you and you wouldn't even know it
/r/seduction06/11/13 11:16 PM
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Be confident and believe in your own attractiveness Have an attractive lifestyle, dress well, and take care of yourself Have good people skills (conversational, touching, etc) Approach before you can talk yourself out of it Don't get butthurt over rejection
/r/seduction06/11/13 08:33 PM
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Lol. Idk man depends on the park. If there are a lot of people and/or if the park is well lit, it's still fine
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:10 AM
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What do you mean, like ask her which place she would rather go? No, just suggest that you go there. This way you're being assertive and making decisions, but if she has a problem with the place she can always say so. It's also perfectly fine to venue hop. Meaning, you could spend some time in the park, and then if things are going well you can decide you're bored and go somewhere else, so have a couple places in mind
/r/seduction30/10/13 03:23 AM
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Dinner is always a risky place to go at first because 1) She may feel self conscious eating in front of you 2) You or her may get judged for what you order (e.g. she's a vegetarian and has to watch you eat a steak) 3) You have to go through the whole shenanigans about who pays 4) Even if you pay, it might be a big bill which would be a shame if it didn't get anywhere with her 5) Plus if you pay she might think you're trying to buy her or something 6) I personally hate eating and talking so that'…
/r/seduction30/10/13 01:47 AM
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First off, congrats and I'm sure you two are going to have a great time. Second, I agree that dinner/movie is not suitable for a first date, especially with a girl whom you literally know nothing about. Movies do not let you get to know each other at all, and dinner is too formal/too stigmatized plus you have that awkward "eating in front of each other for the first time" thing which is its own set of problems. My advice is to think outside the box. Coffee/tea is always a safe option, but you co…
/r/seduction30/10/13 01:43 AM
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