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you need a hug bro?
/r/askTRP08/08/19 02:39 AM
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if she's fucking you when and how you want it, there's no problem. you're in her frame worrying about what she says.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 09:45 PM
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you can initiate and handle rejection in ways that will drop your value and thus make you less attractive. you're posting for help while simultaneously thinking you know shit about game which you clearly don't. what's the point?
/r/askTRP07/08/19 09:14 PM
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how do you initiate sex with her? what's she say or do? what's your reaction?
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:53 PM
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my favorite is the roast beef flaps meme. that sub is absolutely the most toxic shit i've ever read, but there are some comedians in the making for sure.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:50 PM
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They never leave unless they are sure it will devastate us i am fighting an upbill battle here with that txt she sent, but my opinion is she isn't trying to be cruel, but rather she's disgusted by op's over-investment in her (posters here always leave out the gay shit they do). he surprised her in that regard, and maybe snapped her out of it. you can argue she's playing games, but i'd argue that playing games like this (ultimately a lack of respect) is a result of her disgust.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:49 PM
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probably because you guys are in a group. i've went out by myself for years consistently so there's basically no pressure to approach me. if i was with anyone else i'm sure they wouldn't have. guys are the same way about this, i rarely see guys cold approach mixed sets. sometimes 2 sets but not often.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:16 PM
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Girls don't act like dudes when they "approach". Girls arent up in my boi's face all the time. lol yes they do. i have 4s and 5s approach me all the time and straight up tel me i'm hot, sometimes asking to fuck (not overtly, but ask if i want to see their room). never had a hot girl approach me though.
/r/askTRP07/08/19 08:04 PM
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just dye it man
/r/askTRP07/08/19 07:46 PM
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physically escalate, see what happens, and try again later if you get rejected. if you're never getting the result you want, find another girl. all the dumb shit that comes out of her blowjob hole doesn't matter.
/r/askTRP05/06/19 08:34 AM
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nah he needs to experience manning the fuck up. once he's done, he can toss her and start fresh if he wants, but this really a fantastic spot for him to be in.
/r/askTRP05/06/19 08:27 AM
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no such thing as an alpha female. qualifying to you and shit testing you is great. you're doing good.
/r/askTRP05/06/19 07:54 AM
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he's his own jailor and bomb. he's a pussy. she's just struggling with her feelings of disgust about spending her life with a pussy. bottle of mayo around. [..] I just sat motionless. I tend to lock up in situations like that. pin her and dump the rest of it on her head, and spank her until she apologizes for being a cunt. what's she going to do? call the cops? break her phone and keep spanking her. get her mom over there too and spank that bitch too. man up.
/r/askTRP05/06/19 07:50 AM
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recently established a safe word in order to push the limits on how far we will go because she's very submissive. tease her about murdering her in one way or another endlessly until she shut ups. don't give into this shit about safe words. this is the kind of crap i'd give in to 5 years ago and always feel like i was a bitch. because i was a bitch. she continued to ramble and bounce from a variety of social topics complaining about how she hates how men are in charge of everything. She legit was…
/r/askTRP17/05/19 12:04 PM
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van isn't saying you can't fuck annoying sluts. he's saying don't be in a serious relationship with one. that kind of instigation gets old real quick. i agree that it might be funny once in awhile, but a lot of women don't know when to stop and need to be literally hit.
/r/askTRP20/04/19 06:46 AM
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No it's making you feel bad because you're a bitch.
/r/askTRP20/04/19 06:30 AM
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I only have 3 good pics: Two of my face, and one where I'm wearing a jacket. Nope you need good pics. No solo bullshit unless you're doing something legitimately awesome.
/r/askTRP20/04/19 06:28 AM
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Gym is an awesome place to meet girls. If it's too scary, don't do it.
/r/askTRP25/11/18 10:45 AM
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Compliance.
/r/askTRP25/11/18 10:38 AM
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Hopefully.
/r/askTRP25/11/18 10:38 AM
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So we agree that a girl who makes you wait could be the same girl that bangs a dude in the back of his truck. I accept this. Some girls think making a dude wait is more likely to keep him around. I don't know if that's an inherent belief girls come to on their own if they grow up in a forest or something lol. But then why do some girls end up with 50-100+ partners and some end up with 1-5? And why is there a correlation with the sluttier girls and not having a stable father around? Probably has …
/r/askTRP25/11/18 10:35 AM
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I'd ask him if he's cool if I go for it. If he isn't, I'd block her. I don't disturb good relationships with nonsense.
/r/askTRP22/11/18 07:21 AM
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Couldn't care less what else she's doing if she's still fucking.
/r/askTRP22/11/18 07:20 AM
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This is false. There's no data to back it up. The study everyone links is irrelevant because 1. very few men know game, 2. a virgin obviously has no idea what's out there and anxiety/fear/lack of experience/plenty of other variables will keep her from venturing out.
/r/askTRP22/11/18 07:15 AM
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Learn Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. I can't count how many studies have shown it's the only way to overcome social anxiety (if the anxiety isn't a side effect of depression etc).
/r/askTRP22/11/18 07:10 AM
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She sees you as high value and enjoys being with you. But her reputation and feelings are on the line dealing with you cuzz you a playa. So be a cool dude and when you're with her only be with her. edit: I do this with girls I'm seeing. If I get emotionally invested I'll tell them the same shit (in so many words)--don't ever talk about other guys with me or I'm out. Don't wanna hear that shit.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 05:46 PM
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By giving a shit about it, you're in their frame. "I'd totally know more about feminism, but I just fucking hate fat people so much." That's all you gotta say about feminism.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 05:38 PM
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You're right, but that's a completely different scenario.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 05:35 PM
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You want to be unfazed because you are unfazed, not because some dork on reddit told you to be stoic because alphas are stoic. Something is wrong with a girl that likes you. Wish her the best. Tell her you'll take her for ice cream when she's feeling better. Be high value and lead. Being high value means you are the prize and you know it. You feel it. Experience has proven it. You never get butt hurt. And you're sociable and calibrated and don't try to be alpha just to be alpha. Leading means th…
/r/askTRP21/10/18 05:32 PM
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It's not a lack of confidence. It's a lack of abundance. OP if you had 10 other girls you were fucking and this girl flaked, you'd just reply, "oh fuck. that sucks, babe. get better. we'll figure it out some other time" and go fuck your harem. You lost nothing by her flaking. You're on top of the world already. Your energy is only ever high and you share it with others. RP teaches that we should be self-validating and self-assured. That's true. But you don't get there by being a monk. You get th…
/r/askTRP21/10/18 05:07 PM
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I simply replied "alright" and left it at that This is going to be perceived as butt hurt. For good reason. You're butt hurt. You don't believe you're the prize. I felt from the beginning she was going to flake They can smell it. Did i go about this the RP way? [..] I made out with her in person when i met her so i assumed her interest was somewhat high should i do a soft next or hard next and what should I do if she reaches out to me? Just be a cool dude. It's not this complicated.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 04:50 PM
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Thank you.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 04:44 PM
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It's a pretty big city. 5m pop. We're going to get many, many more opinions.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 12:29 AM
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Her losing her cool and bragging doesn't come off as confidence to me. Confident people don't self-qualify or lose their cool in my experience.
/r/askTRP01/10/18 10:16 PM
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i think what you did was admirable, and your friend may end up connecting the dots down the road because of what you did. tell me, what was the consequence to all of this? some girl knows you're not a cuck? somebody thinks you're an asshole? some neckbeard with a badge on a forum thinks you have helper syndrome? who gives a shit.
/r/askTRP04/04/18 07:28 PM
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yes just keep gaming her and forget the fact she even brought it up. you don't have to ignore it. say exactly what i quoted.
/r/askTRP01/04/18 01:07 AM
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the suckiest thing about fetishes is that most women just want vanilla sex. sure, they like the occasional choke and hair pulling, but most of them don't want to deal with being hogtied and submitted to w/e porn you're getting off to. my opinion is no porn, no fap, no fantasizing during sex. get used to coming from boring ass vanilla sex. if you can't, find a hotter girl.
/r/askTRP31/03/18 09:21 PM
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I told her I wasn't interested in just being her friend and to hmu if she changes her mind. women need 1. plausible deniability and 2. to feel like they're not being used. you have to relieve her of responsibility and guilt by "tricking" her onto your cock--it wasn't her fault! she had no idea! things just happened! "woo besties. btw this weekend you're coming over to see my new fishtank."
/r/askTRP31/03/18 09:15 PM
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I wasn't quite slurring but clearly past feeling good and botched a simple conversation. She and her friends, who were initially very interested, understandably took off. makes me skin crawl reading that. some of my worst experiences are missed opportunities like that from drinking too. i think alcohol is an okay crutch to get started if nothing else works, but apparently it's a difficult dependency to break. No sane person would disparage that, despite what #metoo would have us believe. who car…
/r/TheRedPill28/03/18 11:54 PM
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you give way too many fucks about shit that doesn't matter. you'll figure that out in like 2 years and write some dumbass neckbeardy post here and get gilded probably. good luck with that.
/r/askTRP28/03/18 02:52 PM
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bring a friend you trust and give them $1k in cash. give them the money earlier in the day before your anxiety kicks in. you get $100 back per approach and you have to go immediately on their choosing. use these do-or-die situations to expose yourself to your specific fears. a big one is not knowing what to say. so force yourself to walk up and have literally nothing to say. just stand there. force yourself to relax in the situation and be ok. let them reject you and treat you like a creep if th…
/r/askTRP28/03/18 02:17 PM
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i'm laughing because you think someone said anything about lying. you're a dolt.
/r/askTRP28/03/18 01:47 PM
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If you're lying to women to get them in bed, you're a loser. hahaha
/r/askTRP27/03/18 09:12 PM
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"the game" wasn't really very informational. just his story about their adventures. mystery method is a guide and nothing else. If you want to really be successful, you can't just copy somebody else's strategy. entirely false. you copy a successful framework (m3 is the best and most used) and your personality adds color and texture. but make no mistake about it, attraction is very much a set of behaviors that every guy must perform. most guys certainly do it by accident once in awhile. while sti…
/r/askTRP27/03/18 01:56 PM
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threatens break up why does anyone threaten to break up? it's out of anxiety, fear, neediness, et al. so yes trying to reason with it encouraging those feelings. pleading that she reconsider implies neediness on your part, which is doubly bad. the first thing that came to my mind was al bunday pointing at the door, "there's the door. [change subject]"
/r/askTRP26/03/18 01:15 PM
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this is personally one of my all time favorite threads on this sub and should help clarify these interactions for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/23d3s6/why_women_like_unemotional_men/ like most of trp, i think we could debate the underlying reasons why women behave like they do. but we can all agree they don't like their emotions. they truly don't. that's why whenever you hold frame, women apologize for being cunts later. they just can't help it. if i'm on my game, there's two…
/r/askTRP26/03/18 12:27 PM
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you're overly empathetic, and you should be more selfish. how about that? for all you know she is still a good friend to him and offered to be there and comfort him. how "nice guy" of you to expect she has to keep fucking him when she's no longer attracted. sometimes life isn't fair and it's no one's fault.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/18 04:07 PM
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models is one of the worst re-writes of mystery method in existence. it does not explain how attraction works in a concise way. just read mystery's shit it's the OG (m3 model). The mere thought of doing that for the sole purpose of meeting girls makes me feel gross. it's easier to think it's "gross" than be terrified and feel like a loser. don't make excuses. it's OK to be low smv. it's OK to not know how attraction works. it's OK to feel like total shit because you're missing out banging thots.…
/r/askTRP24/03/18 04:02 PM
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christ. why are you all so gullible? you wouldn't believe some sjw bullshit on a random blog, so why believe this dork crying about getting dumped? you realize he paid to have this written so when people google his name they'll see he dated her right? or he's just a salty cunt. probably both. /u/smirk_addict got it right. f this dude. imagine for one second a slightly fuller story: maybe..just maybe..a dude that would cry on a blog about getting dumped was acting like a bitch for awhile before t…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/18 02:14 PM
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get her alone somewhere and put her hand on your dick and see if she gets to work. if not, kiss her on her neck and take her bra off. srs how can you touch her vag and not know what to do next. these interractions confuse the fuck out of me.
/r/askTRP21/03/18 12:06 PM
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his definition of push is referring to rapport breaks from the pickup community. literally it means to convey disinterest. knowing how to rapport break is one of the defining factors of game and a core mechanism behind sexual attraction. it's most commonly what bluepillers are referring to when they describe sexually successful men as "assholes". but his % is too aggressive. that's uncalibrated 101. you'll get flakes non-stop if you behave like that on dates. some women will cling and chase you …
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 10:16 AM
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How don't you know it? Just ask any girl in a big city what the sluttiest shit they've done is. Maybe I live in a slut bubble.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/18 12:38 AM
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You're putting yourself at a larger disadvantage than you think. You aren't smarter than the entire pickup community.
/r/askTRP26/01/18 12:37 AM
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Well said. Committing lowers your perceived value big time. Housing up is icing. No guy can overcome those things. Alpha perception will be lost. But if you are LTRing them and your plan is to not be a cuck, you have to manage that shit. Even if it shows insecurity, you take a hit to your alphaness, sure, but the end result is you manage your woman right and show frame and leadership. If she's sucking your dick 3x a day and cheating unknowingly behind your back, that doesn't make you a cuck. Wor…
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 09:00 AM
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massive red flag Not really. Most women have fucked a colleague in the bathroom at their place of work. If there's a red flag, it's that you're dealing with a chick. I honestly think you guys would do better focusing on if the girl is taking care of your needs, not what she's doing behind your back. Because the truth is you'll never know, and that could drive you mad.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 08:40 AM
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You want to stare down everyone you pass. You have staring contests with strangers? Why? Who told you this is beneficial? Holding eye contact is strong game, but there's no point in staring random dudes down.
/r/askTRP24/01/18 07:46 AM
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Yea of course. Just keep it short and no cutesy bullshit. Setup a date ASAP.
/r/askTRP24/01/18 07:18 AM
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Your friends are just naive. For the girls, it's a mix of not wanting to seem shallow and/or they just haven't been with a jacked guy before. Most places in the world don't have jacked dudes walking around, and most guys I see on Uni campuses look like women. That siad, being jacked is overhyped in this sub. If you can bench 2 plates and have a flat stomach, I would argue you're wasting your time trying to get much further (if you're just lifting for women). Aesthetic is a minimum threshold you …
/r/askTRP24/01/18 07:17 AM
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This is actually an important topic. There's not a single woman out there that fantasizes about being fucked by a grocery bagger. In more realistic terms, you don't want to hamper a woman's ability to fantasize about her potential future; hint at the fact you live an amazing life (that can only be lived with wealth). There's no need to make up total lies because our lies are nothing in comparison to the hamster. In pickup these are usually DHVs about traveling, and you can probably calibrate the…
/r/askTRP24/01/18 06:53 AM
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People trying to emulate Dark Triad traits, who are only capable of attracting and fucking sluts, deep down long for a fulfilling LTR. one of my close friends is basically Chad. he's a sociopathic 6'4 jacked model. he has as many matches on tinder as some girls. one day he told me he wished he could find a girl that wanted a long-term relationship. we always rant about shit and never dig very deep into it, but later it occurred to me that he had never fucked a girl that wasn't off tinder or out …
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:18 PM
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cbt* and yea most psychologists don't teach it well. find someone who really knows it and there is group participation (you go out to do stuff with the group 2x, 3x a week). i live in a 5m pop city so lots of options. you can date whoever you want if you learn game. day game works wonders.
/r/askTRP17/12/17 06:00 PM
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you can overcome social anxiety in 12 months with a good psychologist teaching proper cbt and a group setting. and when i say overcome i mean you literally will not remember you had social anxiety. you'll never feel pressure to avoid. anxiety will simply not exist anymore for social situations. there are an endless amount of studies on this too. but it's very difficult to find a therapist who teaches it properly, and even harder to find one that uses a group. i think there are only a few in the …
/r/askTRP17/12/17 04:49 PM
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I mean, what BS is that? It's not. Game teaches you the behaviors that attract women, while RP shows you the potential outcomes of the relations you create and the reasoning behind those outcomes. The only reason you feel bad about any of it is because new posters in this sub are toxic as fuck; your partner isn't your enemy, and you don't have to actively strategize. You will eventually internalize good behaviors and you'll never think about any of it again. If you're anything like me, you'll ov…
/r/askTRP17/12/17 03:35 PM
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correlation. guys who go to jail are, on average, less risk averse than your typical dude. that causes them to approach more women. but rapport breaks and qualification are the mechanisms behind attraction and the "asshole". this has been known in pickup for a very long time.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/17 02:16 PM
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man i got arrested for calling the cops on a girl because she wouldn't get out of my fucking car. i can't even fathom what'd happen if i had hit her.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/17 05:11 AM
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In a ONS? If you are tall, ripped and handsome, you don't need to say anthing for a ONS. you can't get laid by literally saying nothing. or i've never seen it. then again i haven't been inside a club in 10 years.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/17 04:37 AM
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In which yes, face is almost everything, along with height, voice, and muscularity. face still isn't almost everything. you guys have to take a incel and force him to workout until he's jacked and put him on tinder. he may fuck fat girls, but every cute girl will bounce after his mouth opens. you're highly underestimating how behavior works even in "ONS" scenarios. most guys who were good looking in hs naturally got attention and learned these behaviors as a result of abundance. but looks by the…
/r/TheRedPill06/12/17 10:50 PM
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being aware of the investment balance isn't stupid. but i wouldn't verbalize wanting to plan to see her more. some girls will ghost you for verbalizing need like that. it's way too needy. just hangout and keep hanging out. don't imply anything. that's her job.
/r/askTRP06/12/17 10:33 PM
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relative to where you are, redpill is ancillary. you need to learn game. pussy responds to dudes who rapport break, qualify, and kino well. a lack of either and you're at a huge disadvantage. and obviously you have to approach a lot or it's all worthless.
/r/askTRP05/12/17 08:10 AM
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where does it say anything about testosterone?
/r/askTRP05/12/17 01:34 AM
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there's nothing to indicate she's going to trap him. by that logic we should all get snipped. she branch swung, it failed, sex is fun.
/r/askTRP05/12/17 01:32 AM
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There's actually a bit of science behind this. Males with high cortisol and low testosterone are more likely to find fat girls attractive. LOL please link to this study
/r/askTRP05/12/17 12:45 AM
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does hearing her voice put you into a downward spiral or something? invite her over and fuck her. after you nut call her a cab. she'll be mad for a week tops and then chase. i've never understood the "block her" mentality of this sub. you shouldn't be so invested in some girl that you can't game her.
/r/askTRP05/12/17 12:43 AM
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so on a date with a [tinder] girl who mentioned that are became great friends with most of her dates (wtf) I told her there wouldn't be a second date if that were her plan with me. you need to understand that attraction is a fleeting feeling. it has nothing to do with make believe labels like "friends". girls talking about being friends is a shit test. check my other post for what a shit test really is. since you now know that being friends has nothing to do with if she'll fuck you or not, don't…
/r/askTRP01/12/17 09:01 PM
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very similar progression here. deadbeat pothead playing video games all day. except i was still a virgin at 24. Regarding the time line. It depends. If you fully commit to the red pill life style, and I mean truly commit reading every day, go on dates even when you don't feel like, for experience sake, don't get sucked into an ltr and keep spinning plates I would say 3 years is a realistic time frame. We are talking lifting HARD UNTIL YOU ALMOST PUKE, 3-5 days a week. And reading a few hours a d…
/r/askTRP30/11/17 01:27 AM
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shit tests aren't contrived concoctions. they're just situations that highlight flaws. if you're non-reactive, no flaws can be inferred. i think everyone gets too caught up thinking they have to amplify or flip, when in reality you can just smile and change the subject. if a&a or pressure flips actually make a difference over general non-reactive behavior, it's so insignificant that you could just go do a bicep curl to make up for it. saying ew. "you're really going to ew when i make you lick it…
/r/askTRP30/11/17 12:48 AM
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It is lacking in that is doesn't to anything to teach men about how to handle a woman once you have attracted her. pickup implicitly teaches men how to keep women around because always running game means you're always pre-selected, always running dread, and always replacing "plates". trp has to spell this stuff out because 90% of the posters here are 2-3 girls from being virgins and have no idea how to behave even if they have the balls to approach. you don't need to keep your onitis around if y…
/r/TheRedPill28/11/17 11:27 PM
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lol of course it works it's called tinder, matching = "hi lets fuck" irl there's too much asd like someone else said. you can approach and pull girls somewhere to isolate and then go for it, but just right from the first question? i don't think so.
/r/askTRP28/08/17 11:01 AM
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reddit PPL is better than those programs if he wants to do 6 days/wk, although it's debatable if that's optimal for beginners because of the rest needed. maybe skip a leg day at first. but you can get way bigger in 12 months time following a harsh beginner program.
/r/askTRP24/08/17 08:02 PM
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which of these studies points to masturbation doing something that sex doesn't? the only two i clicked mention sexual activity, not masturbation.
/r/askTRP24/08/17 07:23 PM
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that's not the same thing as taking it over, but obviously society has always shunned it. if anything, pickup has eaten itself from the inside out to conform to the masses for monetary purposes (mark manson and models).
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 07:20 PM
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how did feminists take over pua?
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 07:15 PM
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you're talking about something else entirely. having abundance and, as a result, not giving a fuck about a single girl is necessary to game. but if you want to keep certain girls around after you've already fucked them, you have to be willing to cut the act and ride the investment line a bit. shit tests and comfort tests really have absolutely nothing to do with each other. the only reason they come up is because shit test paranoia makes everyone forget that they need to invest in their toys fro…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/17 03:30 PM
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one more time. again, shit tests are a label, not a concept, for real situations that highlight value (or a lack there of). you will interrupt attraction by losing frame to situations that highlight a lack of value, such as her implying you're no longer sexually relevant via comments about being friends; you lose frame to her (supplicate) when you get upset about her implications. not every "shit test" is direct, "are you gay?" you're right that shit test paranoia sucks. life is a paranoid exist…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/17 03:05 PM
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i just told you shit tests aren't real. reading comprehension. work on it.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/17 10:12 PM
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if you enjoy being exclusive, set boundaries. plenty of women won't cheat as long as they don't get in the wrong situations. the idea that she'll fuck her co-worker in the bathroom given enough time is just nonsensical, unless you're slipping. otherwise, have multiple girls and simply don't care. you don't have to lie or cheat or distrust or be pessimistic to enjoy tons of great sex and deep relationships. but you do need boundaries, dread, and the ability to walk.
/r/askTRP20/08/17 01:59 AM
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nah. common shit test. i've heard some pretty silly variations of this from first dates to ltrs. unsurprisingly, i've never had any girl that wasn't sexually interested call me homie/friend/buddy/etc.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/17 12:54 AM
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her roomates bf's friend is sleeping on her couch in her room hahaha at this. with abundance: don't remember what she said without abundance: OH MY GOD MY LIFE IS OVER I HATE WOMEN
/r/askTRP18/08/17 06:05 PM
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kill yourself and rid our world of your potential beta spawn
/r/askTRP15/08/17 06:43 PM
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lol you both want to fuck drug dealers more than women do
/r/TheRedPill15/08/17 06:17 PM
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op's planned response proves he's shit because it implies he's insecure and/or inexperienced. he doesn't know how to get from a girl giving him shit to getting laid (if he did, he'd never plan to say anything like that), and it's frustrating, so he's doing all he knows: taking a stand. but she knows what that means because she's seen it from 99% of the dudes that have tried to get her number. shit tests aren't some contrived concoctions women make up. they're simply situations that highlight fla…
/r/seduction27/07/17 10:18 AM
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it just depends where you go. during the day you have endless 1on1 opportunities. during the night you don't. hot girls don't go out alone during the night. and that's probably the key difference. i don't like dealing with the cockblocking dynamics.
/r/seduction16/07/17 02:26 AM
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i'd suggest you day game and find a good area with tons of traffic. a popular ikea, mall, whatever. in my experience, i see no reason to night game UNLESS you enjoy drinking and dancing. if you don't, it's not half as good.
/r/seduction16/07/17 01:56 AM
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go to a doctor and tell him exactly what you're telling seddit. he'll run a bunch of blood tests and probably know shit none of us do. lifting heavy is important. just general exercise isn't nearly as good. but if you're deficient in magnesium, zinc, some of the Bs, d, or any of the other majors, your libido basically disappears. make sure you get tested for deficiencies in these. buy zma and try it in the mean time (or buy the pieces separately: magnesium glycinate, b-complex, zinc).
/r/seduction12/07/17 04:13 PM
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i don't know why you think my writing seems angry either. good talk
/r/seduction12/07/17 04:05 PM
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@timid if you're shit and love yourself that just means you have low standards, not that you're an attractive guy; quality girls won't accept a guy with low standards for himself. Making 100k a year and having a 6-pack will get you more high quality girls than making 20k and being morbidly obese. types of men that women want sometimes have money, but money does not build attraction. the only correlation money has with getting laid is that business owners with a lot of free time can just approach…
/r/seduction12/07/17 04:01 PM
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aside from dressing like a dweeb and not lifting, he didn't make any mistakes; there's no consequence to any of this. what, he has to move 50 ft to a different building? change malls? the horror. he didn't commit any crimes by liking pussy. you don't have to find problems with shit just because some fat bitch on fb recommends it. He uses the same line to start a conversation there's nothing wrong with using the same line over and over. the opener doesn't mean anything in the long-run. There's a …
/r/seduction12/07/17 03:34 PM
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she has height standards, i have pussy standards. i'd ask her how wide her vagina canal is. trying to appease such a worthless whore with dick jokes is retarded though. i'm not short but i have gotten the question and i refuse to answer it without giving out shit first. if she can't handle a little heat over being a vapid whore she's not getting the d.
/r/seduction11/07/17 06:44 PM
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dude he just taught us that the solution to not having a sexy vibe in your conversations is to include kino, are u trying to say he isn't a spam blogging virgin faggot?
/r/seduction11/07/17 06:04 PM
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it's just anxiety. had it happen many times and took a lot of fucking to get better. just explain you get nerves the first time. don't apologize, don't self-deprecate, don't break frame. get up and grab a drink. and if it happens again and you can't do it that night, that's fine. ask her out another time and try again. if it happens on the 2nd and 3rd date until the girl decides you're an autistic limp dick faggot and never talks to you again, that's perfectly fine too. plenty of girls out there…
/r/seduction06/07/17 01:10 PM
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Your assessment is correct. I can tease and mess around with girls I'm not interested in, but I still have a scarcity mentality when I've actually gone out on a date with a particular girl. i'm the same way. i constantly catch myself supplicating if the girl is my type. definitely the reason you should never, ever approach women that aren't your 8s/9s/10s. do it nonverbally, through kino, body language, vocal pacing and so on. lol i feel like when you get into vocal pacing and all this shit you'…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 03:09 PM
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you really don't have to sexualize conversations. that's not going to build attraction and it's a poor way to build comfort. I'd like to see you again she's done absolutely nothing yet to convey that she's worth seeing again. if you're pulling with a compliment that early on, you're probably 10x worse on a date. think about how much you pushed; how much did you disagree with something she said, teasingly demean her, push her away physically? you probably didn't do any of that. unless your "smv" …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 12:41 PM
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But it's obvious that the most cynical and depressing stuff is what sticks with me the most. These are thoughts I cannot shake easily, often obsessing or trying to "unbelieve" them for days at a time. you can't do it on your own. cbt was created for that very reason and there are literally thousands of studies proving it works. go google them. you need to be taught how to do it and it takes many months to actually work. i never said you can unbelieve something in a few days. that would be absurd…
/r/seduction17/06/17 09:59 AM
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ironically, you are the perfect candidate for cbt. most everything you write is an irrational belief. we could have you approach 100 women a day, but that exposure would not stop those thoughts from bombarding you all day long and you would always regress. irrational belief #1: having a social circle is necessary and i dont have one irrational belief #2: having extroverted qualities is necessary and i dont have them irrational belief #3: having an age-appropriate job is necessary and i dont have…
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:43 PM
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cognitive therapy works (ct), cognitive therapy + exposure works (cbt), but exposure by itself does not. the cognitive part is crucial because the automatic irrational beliefs have to be "corrected" (in practice you remove them entirely).
/r/seduction15/06/17 08:35 PM
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for people without anxiety disorders and/or with high self-esteem yes. otherwise, evidently, no.
/r/seduction15/06/17 07:19 PM
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social anxiety can't be treated successfully with just exposure therapy so no. it can be corrected with cognitive training though. but if you have no negative beliefs in the first place then just the exposure probably is enough yea; lots of guys do it and never had cognitive training so definitely. i just point all this out because it's obvious lots of posters here have social anxiety (to some degree) and that's going to make it impossible to get into pickup. i imagine if you didnt have social a…
/r/seduction15/06/17 06:19 PM
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there are a lot of studies out showing that exposure is not the most effective way to deal with social phobias. cognitive therapy is; your belief system is far more important than exposure to the fear. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-11-200 is an older study about this. there are many, many more. lots of guys here have deep seated beliefs that it's creepy to approach, for example. until they learn skills to eradicate those irrational beliefs, no amount of expos…
/r/seduction15/06/17 02:47 PM
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I've probably slept with 17 girls in the past 11 months from tinder and I've been exclusive for about 3 of those months. nice
/r/seduction15/06/17 01:52 PM
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in my mind there are two reasons any escalation gets denied, 1. not enough comfort built and/or 2. too much pull/supplication/neediness without enough push (sometimes plays out as the girl never having to work for your validation, which is commonly associated with lmr but counts for any level). so escalation rejections are temporary based on a lack of the above, which you'll have ample opportunity to fix after the initial rejection. just make sure you're completely unfazed when it happens. any s…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/17 09:14 AM
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my short stature and bald head keep me insecure you have to re-train your brain to stop having those automatic thoughts. until then, you're going to continue this negative feedback cycle that's enforcing self-limiting beliefs. everyones self-help quotes and anecdotes are worthless.
/r/askTRP14/06/17 06:08 PM
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i default to asking back to my place to watch a movie. asking back for drinks is fine too, but i think it also implies too much. girls are dumb.
/r/askTRP14/06/17 06:05 PM
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you need good social/outgoing pics and a lifter physique (beyond newbie gains). maybe if you're shredded you could make it work without shit else, but i don't know anyone like that that's ever tried to just take bathroom selfies. i'm not there yet to test it.
/r/askTRP14/06/17 06:02 PM
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the hypocrisy about cheating whores in this sub is comical. the answer to these situations will always be the same: have abundance. 1 girl may be enough sexually, but it will never be enough for mental health.
/r/askTRP14/06/17 05:50 PM
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a good rule on aggression https://web.archive.org/web/20110807175604/http://www.practicalpickup.com/the-50-rule
/r/TheRedPill14/06/17 05:14 PM
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I felt that it would've been forced it's not possible for kino escalation to be forced; you escalate, she accepts or rejects, and the process repeats. as long as you commit and follow-through, she will perceive your escalation as confident.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/17 05:04 PM
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for web dev the best one is probably https://www.theodinproject.com/ medicine and law and all that shit is fine but you're pigeon holing yourself. software and business are ubiquitous.
/r/askTRP10/06/17 10:55 AM
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money. it doesn't have much to do with smv as it pertains to pickup, but it solves most problems. 1. learn programming and 2. start businesses. it's nearly impossible to not make minimum 100k with those two skillsets (will take years to get solid at both) which is plenty to do what you want in life. total flexibility in what you work on too, and your interests will change. stop reading reddit. read book of pook, read models, cold approach once a day, appreciate the game for what it is and don't …
/r/askTRP10/06/17 09:57 AM
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there is none. do whatever you want. guys who cry about other guys approaching in x/y/z are white knighting pussies.
/r/askTRP10/06/17 09:40 AM
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Should I pursue? Is it possible to k close in such a short time? it is very possible, but what she said is also completely made up; women imply limits and boundaries for different reasons, but if you create enough attraction all that shit dissipates. I said I'll let her know since i don't know what i'm doing that day. if you really want to play that game say your weekends are taken but that she'd be welcome to come over to watch a movie on a weekday night (be specific, like tuesday). if she says…
/r/askTRP10/06/17 09:36 AM
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they have to treat everyone so unfortunately you have to go through simpler stuff like that. the exposure (behavioral) part is not the important part. the cognitive training is.
/r/seduction09/06/17 12:42 AM
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read my last post. group cbt has the best results with social anxiety in all of the latest studies on the subject. drugs do not make any provable long-term difference with that particular disorder.
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:23 AM
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you probably have social anxiety. symptoms all fit. there are a thousand studies out there for you to go google and they will all tell you the same thing: you need cognitive behavioral therapy (cbt). to make this a little more relatable to this sub, the reason so many here fail to continue to cold approach is because they have social anxiety and expose themselves (the "behavioral" in cbt) to the fear without having any cognitive training. in fact, it will only get worse for many of them as each …
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:20 AM
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be careful about conversation threading though-- you have to throw in rapport breaks or it will lead to over-investing.
/r/seduction31/05/17 01:09 AM
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she doesn't need to hit the gym to get rid of that.. just cut calories. but i can tell that it's increase her insecurity. good, she needs to work harder for you. shit goes both ways. But on the other hand helping her get better while visual pleasing to me, does increase her SMV to 9-10 range and make her way more hypergamous? marriage makes having even a semblance of abundance very difficult. you'll never get over your insecurity about losing the only toy you have. you need multiple toys. that's…
/r/askTRP23/05/17 03:39 PM
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you need to implement more push. if the girl doesn't have to chase and work for your validation, this will be the outcome. much like shit tests, never let lmr upset you. never let anything a girl does uspet you. do not break frame. don't verbalize stupid shit like this "If you dont want to be physical I understand, but I'm not gonna sit here and be your TV buddy" actions, not words. you did well by escalating, backing off, escalating, etc, but you should have thrown in some push. stop, walk off,…
/r/askTRP23/05/17 03:17 PM
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working out =/= lifting (unless that's what you meant) https://examine.com/supplements/fish-oil/ there are many studies on fish oil. some are very positive while others are fairly neutral. seeing as it costs basically nothing and i personally never eat fish, i just play it safe and take it anyway.
/r/seduction03/05/17 09:11 PM
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lift read book of pook and attraction code (same topics, diff pov) cbt therapy for anxiety first, not psychiatrists or any other bs get blood levels checked (safe bet is supping d/omega 3/mag/zinc)
/r/seduction03/05/17 08:29 PM
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man, i've never invited a girl back to my place for 1st from a day approach. i'll try it though. i'm wasting a lot of time with micro rejections and shit though lately. i think my push/pull game is fucked up or something. def not good enough for tinder though. not for the girls i want anyway. appreciate the writeup.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 02:00 PM
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can you share how you escalate? how fast do you wait in between escalations? how do you handle escalation rejections? i see a lot of this type of shit, but whenever i try it i get rejected over and over and have to back off and build more comfort. only ever pulled back on 1st date once so far. i think my push game may be to blame but i dunno.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 08:22 AM
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why don't we just gag her and tie her up in the basement while we're at it. any cute girl can bang most of the dudes she walks past on a daily basis if she wants to, and we think setting a "txting boundary" is going to accomplish something? have a semblance of abundance or know how to create it and shit like this doesn't matter. girls are gonna girl.
/r/askTRP15/03/17 03:24 PM
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only one way to find out
/r/seduction28/02/17 06:28 AM
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oh, boy
/r/seduction07/02/17 02:16 PM
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"Haha it was, I'll sit on concrete pavement with you anytime hahahahaha" because you sound like a needy, over-invested little fucking school girl. she wants a guy that's ambitious and has tons of options and "going-ons"... that dude is not responding with "hahahahaha wow i'll sit with you anywhere wow! wowow hahahaha" "lets meet up X at Y." anything other than quick logistics with someone you've talked with 10 minutes or whatever usually implies you're a worthless, boring sack of shit. especiall…
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:24 AM
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i mean anti-amog advice seems easy enough, but if the dude is willing to continue blocking you until you leave or fight it would seem that all of that goes out the window. then again, i've never seen anyone actually take it that far so maybe it's so rare it's just worth bouncing when it comes up.
/r/seduction31/01/17 12:58 AM
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some guy (not her boyfriend) completely cut in between us, and started talking to her. assuming we're there to slay pussy and not fight random drunk dudes, what are our best options to dealing with other guys pulling shit like this?
/r/seduction30/01/17 11:04 PM
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mark manson defines game as your ability to get women that are initially neutral towards you. this is, by far, the best definition of game. don't bother with those that start off in the 'no' category.
/r/seduction29/01/17 02:20 AM
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being in an open relationship isn't the same as promoting cheating and cuckolding, what the fuck are you smoking.
/r/MensRights08/01/17 08:28 AM
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not sure about the approach part but i have to wonder if you know any actual "average dudes". i actually can't remember the last time i saw a non-pua do an approach outside of a club.
/r/seduction15/12/16 05:19 PM
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Being rejected is often really hurtful so "big fucking deal, lol" attitude is not really true for many guys. are you a pua coach that's taught thousands of guys and has observed many of them curl up into a ball after an approach? no? thought not. stop making stupid statements. regret is the killer. every single guy in the world has experienced this. pre-approach fear is extreme enough for some of us that it could be described as pain, but it dissipates the second you get the words out. there's n…
/r/seduction15/12/16 05:10 PM
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there's no point speculating; go out and put yourself to the test.. get beat up, go back out, get beat up, go back out. that's how all of these guys did it, even the good looking ones. no body gets mad pussy without being rejected 1,000 times. some of you retards will get mad i said that but it's just true. even a 6'6 ripped hot dude is going to get rejected by hot girls the majority of the time when cold approaching, and that's the absolute top .01% of men as as far looks. model's chapter(s) on…
/r/seduction09/12/16 03:27 PM
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Not only clever lines are needed this isn't a real thing. you don't need clever lines or jokes. just be yourself. if yourself sucks, improve it. it's your job to lead the entire way to sex. that means you have to speak up and introduce yourself first, you have to get the number first, etc. sometimes the girl will lead but it's rare and don't count on it if you're not good looking or high status (even then, most hot girls won't). body language is a waste of time, aside from eye contact. so many r…
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:58 PM
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this. rest of the advice in this thread is fucking garbage. there's no special way you act around women you want to fuck, you simply escalate to doing it or not. being 6'3 and ripped, you're going to need far less comfort building with far less tries than most guys.
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:55 PM
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hotornot.. the site from like 1998? you've gotten laid from that?
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:30 PM
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are the new ones good? i just found out they existed 5 hours ago. so confused where i've been.
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:27 PM
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I wanna fuck you this is implied in everything you do and say to women as it relates to dating. when you ask her out, touch her, ask her to change venues, to go back to your house; every single one of those events has an implied "[i touched you/asked you to do something/go somewhere/whatever], so we can fuck later" sooner you experience that the sooner you'll actually believe it's how the world works and the sooner you'll stop wanting to say shit that turns women off quicker than finding dead bo…
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:25 PM
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there aren't different styles of seduction; women are all seduced the same way. being funny is a good way to build comfort, but without the other elements of seduction all that's happening between your girl and your friend is that she's becoming endeared towards him in a friendly way. and he's your friend so you should want them to get along. the fact you have cool friends that are entertaining increases her perception of you as well. if making girls laugh was the key to getting laid every singl…
/r/seduction05/12/16 12:11 PM
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im talking averages. not you. stop making everything about you. you won't have game ever because you don't put work in. on average, a 30 year old has more experience in all of the various fields that result in getting laid. most 20 year olds don't even have time to practice approach or anything because they're studying and working full-time.
/r/seduction01/12/16 09:55 AM
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i went out once near there in narrows. some girl asked me and my friend if we were gangsters (we were driving a 335i). she claimed she had never seen a black 3 series. lol like what. podunk towns you don't even need game.. just have all your teeth. edit: not to imply roanoke is podunk, it's not really near that bad. my advice is to day game. night game is very challenging with groups of girls... it's uncomfortable without a wing. day game it's mostly 1on1, sometimes 1on2. start there imo.
/r/seduction01/12/16 04:22 AM
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rofl george clooney is the worst example ever. he's one of the hottest 50+ guys in the world. you ain't gonna look like that when you're 55. but yea guys in their 30s have infinitely more game than 20 year olds. it's not even comparable. it's really difficult to do all the shit you need to do when you at work at mcdonalds and have school debt. girls will date really, really far up, if your shit is together.
/r/seduction01/12/16 04:12 AM
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the billionth iteration of "will girls fuck me even though i'm not 6'5?" yes. yes they will. ask more specific questions.
/r/seduction01/12/16 04:06 AM
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Now I have been reading Mark Manson's models and it really is what I needed (a no bullshit not sexist, fact-based help book) however this issue I believe does not get brought up. So I came to you guys. literally the whole book is an emphasis on the fact that attraction is based on being less invested than the girl, and how to do that by not being a needy little bitch. maybe try re-reading it again bro.
/r/seduction01/12/16 04:04 AM
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im sure there is a sub for book recommendations. the ones i listed are about as good as you'll get seduction-wise (book of pook is about non-seduction related stuff plenty).
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:45 AM
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book of pook, mystery method, magic bullets (so far, not finished), the juggler method i've only read these 4 + models. tbh i'm done reading after this. i get it. it's easy to get lost in theory and i'm already full of it. i'd suggest the same. go talk to girls only afterwards.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:51 AM
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I appreciate your comment. I lift weights 4 times per week and play soccer twice. I eat pretty much only lean protien and veggies and fruits. I try to limit sugar. I shower twice per day etc. anybody who brings up face surgery has serious issues way outside the scope of this sub. he also didn't ask about diet... what the hell does that matter? i can eat ice cream and whey only and still look better than you, that's irrelevant lol 90% of you just say you lift and don't for sure, but whatever.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:43 AM
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You can't be given a green light even for "first time sex" if you don't demonstrate that you have a half-decent job or at least an interesting/active life whhaaaaaaaaaat. such a strange claim, dude. my own limited experience disproves this and i started really late. not claiming my struggle is as difficult as someone with autism, but you're getting bad ideas from people with warped ideas about sexuality.
/r/seduction21/11/16 05:29 PM
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a "relationship" (seeing each other for a lengthier period of time, let's say) is something that usually happens after first time sex so i don't even know how to reply to that. you hang out, fuck, and decide if you want to keep hanging out and fucking. that doesn't have anything to do with the hour of the day though.
/r/seduction20/11/16 07:10 AM
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what am i stretching? how am i being positive? i literally said it's "much harder". doesn't change the fact women are women are women no matter the hour of the day -- they don't transform into fucking machines just because there's a lack of sunlight.
/r/seduction20/11/16 06:49 AM
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I'm not sure if she was at all interested or not .. I know that i'm not allowed to tell them that I think they are hot .. girls can get creeped out if you touch them too much too early, so I might not touch them much i don't know if rsd is going to help you, but i'd suggest you buy models and read it; mark describes game as how well you can polarize a girl that's "on the fence" (neutral) into 'fuck no' or 'fuck yes'. you seem to be having interactions with women who are fairly neutral about you,…
/r/seduction20/11/16 12:21 AM
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do a few dates that go alright you already failed if you didn't close by the 3rd date. she's bored as fuck. calling is probably your last shot. txting is worthless at this point.
/r/seduction19/11/16 11:46 PM
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"I doubt you have any other options than me." she's asking if u have a male friend to come match her female friend. how does that have anything to do with testing you for neediness? any idiot has another male friend. i take this literally: her friend is actually jealous and wants to go on a date too. i swear you guys think everything is a shit test.
/r/seduction19/11/16 11:19 PM
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you can still try calling, but you're grasping straws.
/r/seduction18/11/16 12:47 AM
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so all girls you met through online dating? logistics only via txt. if they're dragging their feet to the point you can't get a date setup, call. if that doesn't work, they were just attention seeking. delete their number.
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:39 PM
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"My girl friend (I met her also) is jealous, don't you have someone who could join? If not, then I will tell her to fuck off" how in the world is this a shit test? lol
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:29 PM
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I think she wanted to fuck. "how about we meet real quick at X and we can come back to my place" pretty simple. I told her I am not scary but if she didn't want to meet up she should be honest. this is so bad. this is the kind of response i'd give like 12 months ago and i hate myself for it. it's implying not only a lack of confidence (she's aware you think you might not have a chance), but you're also talking about how you're not 'scary' which is potentially making her think of some really bad …
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:24 PM
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Cold approach or daygame doesn't work this way. It's much more of a "relationship" game if you're approaching during the day. In other words, if a guy talks to a girl during the day.. even assuming there is some chemistry and a number exchange.. he should expect it's all business. He should expect to be judged on his job and overall prospects. there's no diff between approaching a girl anywhere, night or day, minus the fact at night a lot of girls went out specifically to get dick and/or are dru…
/r/seduction17/11/16 02:09 PM
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like 90% of readers of this sub have never cold approached irl so i dunno if i'd get advice here beyond book recommendations and kino. obviously having 'fun stuff' to say would be more fun to you and her, but not everybody's bill burr so i dunno.
/r/seduction17/11/16 02:02 PM
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what you say isn't really important in cold approach. you don't have to conversation thread... you're not building comfort to kino. it's a 3 minute interaction. have fun and talk about whatever. if you really struggle so much thinking of something, you could always default to taking note of something she's wearing and asking about it, or have a question that works in any situation e.g. "so you like X" where X is the current location OR her current action (so you like stacking stuff?) just whatev…
/r/seduction16/11/16 10:05 PM
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imo, having a bio on tinder is kind of like talking to the police -- shit can only hurt you. not too different from the idea of only txting for logistics. if you're 6'4, put your height. 5'9? leave it out. work at a zoo taking care of tigers? yea i might include that. work at walmart? don't talk about it (not saying 5'9 is walmart height lol). you get my point.
/r/seduction15/11/16 05:39 PM
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really good advice. hugs are awesome and build a ton of comfort right out the gate. shaking hands is next to worthless (i do it for cold approaches because it's normal, but it certainly builds no comfort imo). sounds like you did a good job conversation threading and getting to know each other op. throw in pi's advice about escalation and you seem to be golden, especially if she's txting you first. the 'txt only for logistics' rule has a lot of merit. i wonder about this a lot. instead of txting…
/r/seduction15/11/16 05:28 PM
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never break first, and smile if she doesn't after a second or two. you can obviously only approach if she holds and/or smiles back, but i'd just say approach anyway just because too many girls are shy and will always look away, regardless of interest (i guess you could wait for her to look again or something).
/r/seduction14/11/16 06:45 PM
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no body number closes their first approach bro. be happy u got it out of the way. go approach more retards.
/r/seduction14/11/16 06:40 PM
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considering you're probably not a lifter, i'm not sure how you know so much about it. but it's pretty pointless to debate it. you can spend 12~24 months and just find out yourself.
/r/seduction14/11/16 06:18 PM
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imo you should be overly aggressive with kino; either get rejected or k/f close first date always. otherwise you're just wasting your own time with this kind of bullshit. you literally wasted 2 dates and accomplished nothing, as far as i see it. there's a good chance she's over it for the same reason. i'd just delete her number at this point. imo 99/100 times she's not interested anymore but isn't going to ghost because girls are dicks and love to drag people along for the extra attention.
/r/seduction14/11/16 02:10 PM
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what point are you even trying to make? you're just writing shit to write shit. women want a fit guy, from the grossest lowest value bitch to the first lady. being fit makes everything else far easier, including finding a great girl for a relationship. also i've read models and manson doesn't claim routines and strategies don't work, in fact it's the opposite.
/r/seduction14/11/16 01:59 PM
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you said you should think of things to say
/r/seduction13/11/16 04:56 AM
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you're trying to modify your own behavior to accommodate some stupid fucking girl. it's dishonest and you're way more invested in these dates than the girls are, and that's never going to work. read models/book of pook imo.
/r/seduction12/11/16 10:31 AM
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you should probably only think about 1 pua theory at a time. you seem to try to be running a ton of different stuff at once and it's probably fucking you over. you don't know what negging is. from that example, you might not even know what teasing is. you just basically repeated what she just said in a more obnoxious way. you never once had a single honest conversation with her. there's no conversation threading going on anywhere. you basically put her through a sexual interview and then lead it…
/r/seduction12/11/16 09:32 AM
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i feel you, but you need it for the experience. unless you have a girl you're more interested in wanting that exact same time slot, you're just bitching out. every date has the potential to be a great learning experience. also, like /u/WCEpi said, a fantastic way to meet friends. one of my closest friends is a girl i wasn't that interested in originally but ended up going on a date anyway. i'd argue that escalating with a girl you're not that into is just as good practice as escalating with a gi…
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:16 PM
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giving a shit what women say about relationships if your first mistake. she's reciprocating interest. escalate. unless she's married or the dude paying her meal tab is your boss, literally no one cares and you're just cock blocking yourself.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:56 PM
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all the advice here sucks dick. lift weights (or do some other exercise, but lifting has extra benefits) get in the sun 30m+ every single day supplement d3, magnesium, k2, omega 3 try to fill up your day with activities; leave little down time to worry about shit do these things and you will start to feel better. the thoughts plaguing your mind will slowly dissipate. after awhile, daily challenges won't be as hard and things will start to look up. you can find a plethora of scientific research f…
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:42 PM
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HAHA i was about to say this is the most obnoxious post i think i've ever read in this sub. but your comment took it to a better level.
/r/seduction28/10/16 10:06 AM
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for as much as everyone touts models and other books around here, they don't really bother to take their advice when it comes down to it. mark manson and pook talk about this a ton--devoting entire chapters to it. you should probably believe them over a bunch of non-lifters on a non-fitness subreddit. you can also do searches like "site:reddit.com/r/fitness guys who were skinny and got ripped, hows your luck with women" or something like that. tons of huge threads where it's very obvious the dif…
/r/seduction27/10/16 08:54 AM
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Your conversation should move the seduction forward. You should be evoking an emotional response with your conversation. this is still a part of game that i don't understand. doesn't kino invoke an emotional response and move seduction forward? what are we supposed to verbalize that's going to do this? i mean, i conversation thread and kino and shit works out fine. what am i missing? guess i should read that book because forum threads and youtube posts that seem to imply this verbal emotional sp…
/r/seduction27/10/16 08:17 AM
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"so everytime i txt you, uh, something happens" heh lol
/r/seduction25/10/16 07:59 AM
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head over to /r/nootropics and try to find something to replace what you're taking. even make a thread. 5htp, a supplement, can increase serotonin and may be able to replace an ssri (do your homework, of course). exercise is proven to decrease the effects of depression, anxiety, et al. a number of deficiencies (eg vitamin d deficiency) can cause feelings of depression. there're a lot of things you can try before resorting to prescription drugs.
/r/seduction23/10/16 04:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUcHKAj_tc
/r/seduction22/10/16 02:04 AM
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just search this sub for 'openers' and filter by most upvoted. when i started out (like first 20 approaches), i'd only do directs and just say i think they're cute and kind of gauge their reaction and go from there, mostly because i was too fucking nervous to form novel thoughts in my head on the fly. now i try to think of something situational. if that fails, just fall back to the telling them they're cute/hot/whatever you're feeling. ultimately, i don't think what you say matters.
/r/seduction21/10/16 07:18 PM
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i'm assuming it was like a fake gucci jacket or something that said "i'm rich" but i dunno, just wanted to see if girl was actually being sensitive or ops an asshole lol :D
/r/seduction21/10/16 05:43 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hlmra/dicarlo_escalation_ladder_concise_and_emphasized/
/r/seduction21/10/16 05:40 PM
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The other day I said "that's genius" when a shy girl I was talking to said she bought her ironic jacket at a thrift store what's the joke?
/r/seduction21/10/16 05:35 PM
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girls don't approach (at least not me). that'll never change. what changes is their reaction and acceptance to you approaching. models defines game as your ability to polarize girls that are neutral--"being on the fence"--into yes or no. if that's true, being fit/ripped will certainly bring a large % of women that would have default nexted you into being at least being neutral where you can actually have a shot to run game. that's my experience as well- way more girls not giving me disgusted rej…
/r/seduction21/10/16 05:31 PM
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anyone who is ripped will whole heartedly agree. anyone who isn't will either be neutral about it or disagree because they're frustrated with themselves. do you see any puas who are skinny or fat? no. they're all either ripped, light lifters, or average. being on the extremes isn't good. neil strauss (who i see brought up) lifts weight and does cardio/hiit - he even writes about it. everybody is a fuck tard. go lift and find out for yourself. the benefits are far greater than just girls though.
/r/seduction21/10/16 04:56 AM
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it'll make a massive impact. models and book of pook talk about it plenty. i've personally noticed a huge change in reactions i get. not to mention that the confidence you'll get from seeing yourself grow will be insane (from one ex-skinny dude to another). anyone who says otherwise is out of their mind.
/r/seduction21/10/16 04:45 AM
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op copied everything, including 'true confidence', from models. it's for your average loser. read it.
/r/seduction21/10/16 04:22 AM
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this. you can't just wait to be chill. life doesn't work that way. it's also near impossible to tell if someone is having anxiety if you don't know what to look for. and all of this is assuming that women associate nervousness with a lack of confidence. uh, let's see you list studies to prove that one. bunch of nonsense imo.
/r/seduction20/10/16 05:28 PM
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what's your success rate so far? dates per 100 approaches?
/r/seduction19/10/16 10:28 PM
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At the moment my approach anxiety is a lot less, which really feels like my only 'improvement'. that's kind of most of the point about cold approaching i think. did someone ever say approaching girls at a random mall was supposed to be successful? i get the feeling people think it's going to be a high success rate once you're good. i doubt that. I still often get rejected very early on. most of it has to do with the girl, like you've noticed, so that's not surprising. models has a chapter about …
/r/seduction19/10/16 08:37 PM
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fair enough. tinder can be pretty tilting.
/r/seduction19/10/16 08:06 PM
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i mean, how long have you been disinterested? maybe it's just stress or something else you're going through. like someone else mentioned, start lifting weights. google 'reddit ppl' or 'icf 5x5'. push yourself super hard. until you figure out a better way to go about it, you can easily fill up 2~3k calories a day with ~100g of protein via whey, mass gainer, and one solid meal (vegetables + chicken). in fact, you could do that forever, but there's a ton of sugar in mass gainer and while that's fan…
/r/seduction19/10/16 07:51 PM
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someone said tinder is badass in vegas (implying tourists use it). filter ages to 30-45 and give it a shot.
/r/seduction19/10/16 07:33 PM
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yea so learn from them and get good at tinder. you're inevitably going to have to start working out, which is going to help with cold approach a ton. those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction19/10/16 07:31 PM
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The problem is that everytime I try to go I get so nervous I can't speak. you went up to her, tapped her on the shoulder, she turned, and nothing came out? you liar. you're having anxiety and thinking you won't be able to speak. you'll speak. it might be a jumbled, speedy mess, but sounds will come out. tap her shoulder, introduce yourself and shake hands, tell her you're from greece and would love to meet someone new and would love if she'd have a quick lunch with you (put your own greek spin o…
/r/seduction18/10/16 10:22 PM
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the 'NEW HERE?' shit. but honestly just read 'models'. you can easily finish it in a few days. so many posters here haven't read it or anything else and it answers 90% of the questions.
/r/seduction18/10/16 10:14 PM
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you need to learn to kino (how to touch women). read sidebar shit. read models. she probably is waiting on you by this point, from the sound of it. so get reading and practicing. gad sucks dick. sorry, bro. i hope hanging out with her is helping improve the social aspects of it! a couple of good people to hang out with can help you overcome anxiety much more easily. also go easy on the weed. anxiety sufferers can get some nightmarish side effects from it. i've smoked forever and seen it really d…
/r/seduction18/10/16 07:54 PM
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if she plans to respond and is just busy, following up before she does can certainly hurt your chances because it's needy as fuck. on the flip side though, do you really want to spend your time chasing a girl who isn't super into you? from her pov, does she want a guy that's willing to settle for the latter? read models, have abundance mentality, forget about this girl unless she shows interest. maybe i'm wrong here, but imo if a girl is super into you caressing her, you should keep escalating a…
/r/seduction18/10/16 07:47 PM
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After a few years I started working in IT as software developer, and my confidence skyrocketed. getting a well paying job increased your confidence with women? was not having money a big insecurity?
/r/seduction18/10/16 07:34 PM
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A lot of guys think that all there is to PUA is approaching, and its not. literally no one believes this. it's simply the scariest part of pickup and thus every single beginner struggles with it. Some guys spend YEARS on this PUA shit but never get anywhere. Shit, a guy made a post yesterday about how he's been approaching for 2 years and he's gotten nothing. this isn't true. no one studies and practices pick up for 24 months with no improvement. less improvement than others? sure. none? nonsens…
/r/seduction18/10/16 07:20 PM
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meaning, we should tell it like it is and not put up with bullshit. she can change or we can leave. we have an endless amount of women out there just as hot that will be interesting and fun to be around. they're terms from the book models.
/r/seduction18/10/16 02:24 AM
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true true and true. thanks for the sanity check.
/r/seduction18/10/16 01:42 AM
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this is a lot of it... but you can't blame the girl entirely for leaving unsatisfied. i think i just stayed in the dates too long and didn't polarize enough like i replied to other post, thinking more about it. i mean i wanted to fuck them both but by the end i was just exhausted and annoyed. that's 100% my fault for not at least bailing earlier, if i'm not going to push to sex. dealing with bullshit to get laid is not abundance mentality though obviously. meh
/r/seduction18/10/16 01:21 AM
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You could see if it helps to drop information about yourself occasionally, as you thread. It's very easy to be like "statement about yourself" then "thread forward." i think i do this, but i'm not sure. i'll try to stay more conscious of it next time i run into these situations. Of course, a self-absorbed girl won't bite if you do this. And it sounds like those are what you had. everyone is self-absored somewhat. i don't know. but yes it felt like this. Wait, these girls kissed you but hadn't bo…
/r/seduction18/10/16 01:17 AM
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sounds like my roommate. and then she got preggers and wanted to keep it and he wants to die. there's probably a lesson in here somewhere.
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:34 PM
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music gainz smooth interraction. you aren't a fat fuck, you put on clothes that fit, you went outside to a target, and you hopefully got laid. pua, boys.
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:31 PM
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what the fuck is a munch?
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:13 PM
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you've personally noticed an improvement in tinder in vegas over another city? factually, vegas is tiny compared to major cities, and it has way more males. i don't really use tinder so not sure why tourists would use it over just clubbing or whatever (who the fuck travels to vegas to sit in a hotel room and use an app?)
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:11 PM
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this is a shit post and too many idiots in this sub
/r/seduction17/10/16 06:07 PM
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pretty sure they're complimenting you/showing interest. challenge them to a dick sucking contest. and follow through.
/r/seduction16/10/16 07:34 PM
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you don't. you just work through it. there's no way to truly get over social anxieties without exposure.
/r/seduction16/10/16 07:31 PM
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i think he meant how you met; how you got her there. not how she blew you bro but upvoted made me lol gz
/r/seduction16/10/16 07:09 PM
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as much as everyone talks about shit tests and such, are we surprised he's paranoid? this is why i really appreciate model's approach to things, even if it's not necessarily optimal for slaying pussy.
/r/seduction16/10/16 07:07 PM
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you'll never know read models
/r/seduction13/10/16 07:35 PM
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spreadsheets i thought this sub was a safe space
/r/seduction13/10/16 05:46 PM
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this is why you have abundance mentality and don't give a fuck. enjoy the experience while it lasts, move on (because you have the skills and ability to) when it's over.
/r/seduction13/10/16 04:59 PM
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you didn't make a mistake dude. you did good by going for what you wanted. it's really only a mistake if you're putting your career at risk fucking around with the bosses daughter or something. otherwise, go for it. every rejection is a new growing experience... and one more girl you don't have to "what if" about.
/r/seduction13/10/16 04:56 PM
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sure but you'd have to be idiotic to do 300 cold approaches over 6 months and not be reading/improving in between each one.
/r/seduction10/10/16 08:20 PM
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you're the one trying to find excuses not to make progress bro. this is all made up, and obviously so.
/r/seduction10/10/16 01:06 PM
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all your whining and bitching about super standard stuff you would know about after 300 cold approaches
/r/seduction09/10/16 12:12 PM
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my 300th approach .. ''I don't even know you! Leave me alone!'' after just saying 'hey, how's it going?'' Made me feel awful .. How much 'game' was required to have sex with a tinder girl within a few minutes of meeting her?? ok. 90% of this subreddit is a bunch of fake accounts making up bullshit stories about failure so they can justify not overcoming their own virginity. i can't justify this kind of idiocy any other way. no body can make it to 300 approaches (muchless 6 months of approaches l…
/r/seduction09/10/16 11:18 AM
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sorry, you didn't go out daily for 6 months straight and you're still this idiotic. if you are actually this stupid... nah, /r/thathappened stop indulging this bullshit pls sub, you guys are such gullible shits.
/r/seduction09/10/16 10:55 AM
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it's a lot of shitty science, imo. it's like trying to infer something from 100 hands of professional poker. do you even sample size bro? and that's poker, which is arguably a far simpler process with far fewer variables. everyone falls back to "quantity" for a reason.
/r/seduction05/10/16 10:27 PM
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in the grand scheme of things, how important is spiking her emotions with words? i'm a good listener, can conversation thread forever, and i know how to kino. that's been enough. am i just barely scraping by here? maybe i'm taking this too seriously and the point is just don't talk about printers and ink cartridges or something
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:25 AM
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op is a virgin
/r/seduction04/10/16 11:26 PM
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Other PUA's say 'never give up until she literally tells you to leave her alone!! well, these are also the absolute hardest interactions to continue with, making it the best experience/confidence builders. if you can make fun out of the most awkward situation/cold bitch in the place, think how easy everythign else will be. then again, there's only so much time in a day. but i think being annoying is good practice. Awww...are you a bit shy around new people? (smile) It's ok. You'll be alright "so…
/r/seduction04/10/16 11:15 PM
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our forefathers fought and died so we could freely chase pussy without persecution. go live the sick life.
/r/seduction03/10/16 11:52 PM
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Is there a difference on approaching a girl that you know you'll most likely see again? no. scary-level is maxed out in day game to the point that some extraneous statistic doesn't matter. in my experience, girls become far more comfortable with you post-rejection. so there hasn't been a downside to it for me. but i'm talking about gym/grocery store/etc. employees. would very seriously question doing it at work or something important to paying bills.
/r/seduction03/10/16 11:36 PM
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I hate to be the one cynic here you love being cynical, shut up For some reason it's very common for a girl to show interest and have a good time and then just ignore someone 100%. you spend too much time here to not know why this is. come the fuck on already. when you get hyped for a video game that EA/blizzard puts out and then you buy it and ultimately find out it sucks donkey shit because it has 0 substance and isn't anything like you thought it would be, do you get mad? no. you don't. you m…
/r/seduction03/10/16 10:45 PM
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woosh
/r/seduction30/09/16 01:56 AM
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have fun waiting to be approached by women in yours bars, friend
/r/seduction29/09/16 10:52 PM
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if you're quiet and mind your own business someone is bound to say something that privileged girl life
/r/seduction29/09/16 09:10 PM
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feels like he doesn't escalate slowly enough- is he just jumping to cuddling her from nothing? i've never seen sex talk work. the girl either gets weirded out or gets too nervous... it's like anti-comfort. kino = sex, not talking about it, in my experience. the girl can tell him to go away a number of ways... lots of you are super white knights. you all never leave your houses if you think some girl feeling a little inconvenience on a date is such a catastrophe. the dude is inexperienced like mo…
/r/seduction28/09/16 07:22 PM
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yea the game sucks. no point reading that shit.
/r/seduction27/09/16 03:42 PM
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models, book of pook (free, google it), mystery method only 3 books you'd need ever. tbh you could just read models and you'd know more than 99% of guys. very healthy book for men in general.
/r/seduction25/09/16 03:26 PM
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if you don't want to. it's a lot less successful than night/online for obvious reasons. but it's fun and more challenging... and i think more rewarding confidence wise.
/r/seduction24/09/16 07:21 PM
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it helps to know you didn't do anything wrong. obv doesn't matter tho
/r/seduction24/09/16 07:18 PM
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i agree with your points. i used the cute thing initially, but tbh it's really a coping thing (might not make sense unless you're a professional nerd). she's heard it 100x before, anyway. words don't seduce. high fiving and shaking hands count... but they're bad opportunity costs. she win a stuffed bear at a fair? instead of high fiving, pull her in and squeeze her waist a bit. meeting at a date? hug her instead of shaking hands. blogs about escalation pua are retarded 99% of the time.
/r/seduction23/09/16 08:37 PM
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that might be true of night game. it's not for day game- you're approaching random girls that aren't looking for a guy... if they're cute, they probably do have at least one guy they hang out with.
/r/seduction23/09/16 08:25 PM
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busts out her phone to show you how important she is what lol
/r/seduction22/09/16 03:43 PM
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might owe you @op. had a girl really slow rolling my ass on txt, literally read this and decided alright.. asked her to call, got the ok, and hour convo later i got a date that's going to be a cake walk goddamn secret dark arts who knew
/r/seduction10/09/16 10:27 AM
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if you're successfully escalating and kissing and she hasn't stopped you, she wants what you're putting out. just keep going and fuck her. she might be a virgin (or close to it) and doesn't really know what to do with her hands. i'd expect her to moan or make sounds.. but who knows. no rejection -> keep going.
/r/seduction10/09/16 01:37 AM
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your problem is you don't lift
/r/seduction10/09/16 12:34 AM
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im satisfied that you agreed with me on something, if only a little. :P we can win this lottery, baby.
/r/seduction09/09/16 10:10 AM
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Unless you have no interest in the girl, then I see no problem in being as nice to her as I would be to a man. of course, i just meant in the context of guys who hang around this one girl forever wanting to fuck her but never state their intentions or actually do anything about it. she starts to think they're good friends when in fact they really just wanted to smash the whole time. god that shit gives me the willies
/r/seduction09/09/16 10:03 AM
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i mean, your method defeats the purpose of the reason i was given. if she txts you great, if not great. at least we give it a chance. tyler himself couldn't say for certain if giving your number will never work.
/r/seduction09/09/16 08:22 AM
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awesome job, bro. the only thing you did wrong, in my opinion, is that you should have given her your number. friend of mine suggested this to me after i failed 2 number approaches in similar situations. she said sometimes she personally needs more time to think about it and doesn't want the added pressure of the guy surely txting her later that day. typically i don't trust girls on their advice about approaching, but this makes logical sense. the fact she asked you for it makes me think you fuc…
/r/seduction09/09/16 07:33 AM
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i'm not really that insufferable, you're just really bad at making $ online
/r/seduction09/09/16 03:37 AM
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such as dancing - and even then, it actually IS creepy to hit on women during them. so if we're dancing with a girl and after the class is over we ask for her #- that's creepy? if that's the case, i disagree. in fact, i think she'd probably be more comfortable with us than the other guys who she knows what to fuck her too--but weren't confident enough to go for it, but still stare 24/7. a confident guy who takes rejection well is the furthest thing from creepy. grabbing a womans ass while she's …
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:59 AM
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I feel like this sub, and the PUA community has developed an unhealthy obsession with approaching women. yea approaching women is so unhealthy. your feelings are worth a lot, as we've established from your last spam post It is also makes you look incredibly creepy. to who? and why do we care about what they think? I feel like most guys see PUA as a process where you just approach a million girls, get rejected by 99.9% of them and then fuck that one girl that doesn’t reject you. being rejected a …
/r/seduction09/09/16 01:43 AM
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And again, pook is a douchebag. He pushes the status angle too hard. "Yo, be a great man! Be alpha!" and expects everyone to be able to do that. find exact quotes of his and make a thread about it and see what others have to say. truthfully his writing is obnoxious, but the book helped me tremendously. being a great man just means being the best version of you- that's attractive.
/r/seduction08/09/16 05:35 AM
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read book of pook first, and then models after. pook is a narcissistic autist but if you can survive that it's legit stuff. online dating is really good for practicing kino, and hopefully getting laid, but if you don't have good social pics you're going to be spending a lot of time messaging. it's literally a night and day difference with random selfie/whatever pics -> good social pics.
/r/seduction08/09/16 01:10 AM
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yea i mean i don't mean to overreact but when i first started having sex i couldn't cum during anything but my hand + porn. took awhile of nofap before i was able to. so yes it's anecdotal but these studies seem to confirm what i experienced as well. nofap is just a weird place with their jackoff counters.
/r/seduction07/09/16 10:40 PM
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/r/seduction is now about how to get vag pics on snapchat, get downvoted son
/r/seduction07/09/16 09:57 AM
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getting a number is closing. you going to fuck her in the grocery bathroom? i don't see how much more rapport you can build between there and the car- if she wants to party and liked you you'll probably get the #.
/r/seduction07/09/16 07:42 AM
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wait why were you being whisked off? to where? i'm missing something. i'd just ask for her number. you said she liked you so make her prove it. i don't see how we're going to build anymore rapport.. like following her to her car in the dark asking questions? whatever, just get a number.
/r/seduction07/09/16 06:49 AM
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how does this have 15 upvotes? there's seriously 15 people here who don't know how to get a picture of a vagina? we're fucking wasting time with a girl on the other side of the planet. c'mon, dude.
/r/seduction07/09/16 06:31 AM
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The whole point of this sub is to make girls interested in you. the whole point of this sub is to be the best version of yourself and have abundance mentality. nice-guying your way into a phone number isn't interesting. it's dishonest. the girl may be stupid, but she isn't a retard; this kind of behavior is ridiculously transparent to women. you can either waste time with 1 girl who might come around in 5 years or you can go do 10,000 approaches in that timespan and live a life.
/r/seduction07/09/16 06:29 AM
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a week? try forever. masturbating to porn has so many negative effects. confidence aside, the ed and delayed ejaculation issues alone are terrifying.
/r/seduction07/09/16 06:14 AM
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what does "going out with for a few weeks" entail? her txt lets us know she's an idiot. beyond that, fuck her or don't. find somebody cooler tho that's a reasonable human being, in the mean time.
/r/seduction06/09/16 04:10 AM
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And when would you consider touching non weird, like during the first date? touching women isn't weird on a date or otherwise. really, you have to unlearn that belief. it's literally not true. look at different ways to escalate and choose the ways that you feel you can do most confidently. lots of blog posts about different escalation ladders if you google it. always start with a hug 100% of the time when you first see her. if you're picking her up, get out and hug before she gets in. hug like t…
/r/seduction06/09/16 03:41 AM
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grats bro! remember how great it feels and roll that energy into the next one as soon as you can. hopefully you see that girl again.
/r/seduction06/09/16 02:42 AM
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yea i think lifting is honestly the main thing anyone new to the game should do. tyler just mentions in a few of his videos how having a 6 pack is a ticket by itself some of the time. i don't know if he has one, but he picks girls up enough that he probably does workout a bit.. and obviously the benefits aside from women are numerous and worth it for those alone.
/r/seduction05/09/16 07:45 PM
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even heard some girls saying that in person. mmmmmmm. girls say a lot of shit. my closest friend is a girl, she used to be a decently large slut, and the shit she says about 1 guy she likes to the next literally changes IN THE SAME 20 seconds all the fucking time. and then she gets frustrated when called on it. i don't think girls have a clue about anything to do with being turned on, they just feel it or they don't and their explanations of it after the fact aren't even close. Obviously it is n…
/r/seduction05/09/16 06:10 PM
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don't require it, but they'll be happier campers with it obviously.. they'll be more turned on, sex will be better cuzz u can last longer and do more fun shit, you'll be a more positive person cuzz ure exercising. all these benefits. it's too many benefits to say no to that's all i'm saying.
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:44 AM
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lol that's probably true if alcohol is involved.. problem is when alcohol is involved i forget i even want to score
/r/seduction22/08/16 05:33 AM
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jobs are really uninteresting 99% of the time. girls and guys don't really care that much, as long as you're not homeless. you need to dress well and have a car to get around, and a little money for eating/drinking out, but that doesn't require much.
/r/seduction21/08/16 12:48 AM
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yes doing absolutely nothing will not result in women. obviously no, you do not need expert level command of a language to make money. there are plenty of threads of people who finished odinproject.com and landed jobs. i finished odin project myself, because i wanted to know how dev worked, in about 7 months. python is probably the best choice man, go for it. i liked ruby a bit more and was only interested in the web side so thats the only reason i went for odin (and ofc python can do all that j…
/r/seduction20/08/16 05:00 AM
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if we took all of the time you've spent writing about girls on /r/seduction and put it towards studying programming, you'd already be capable of a 50k/year COMPLETELY REMOTE. you'd have enough time and money to take the scorched earth approach. even on 20-30k you could pua full time, as long as you were in a sizable city (of which there are many where that's doable on that salary).
/r/seduction20/08/16 01:29 AM
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finding meaningful relationships and having great sex is really desperate fml
/r/seduction20/08/16 01:20 AM
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go to work earlier, get off at 4pm and go to a public place.. mall.. whatever. if your job is suffocating you then get a new job. pussy isn't going to fix that shit.
/r/seduction20/08/16 01:17 AM
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1 and 3. you can act dorky or however the fuck you want, and it'll work if you play the numbers game (if you're confident and approach and kino etc). start lifting weights. life treats fit people 100x better.
/r/seduction20/08/16 12:41 AM
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i didn't say anything negative, what do you mean
/r/seduction10/04/16 01:54 PM
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kino and asking questions is, like, 90% of it. i'm very good at asking questions and threading/listening (sales), but man when it comes to time-sensitive situations in bars or like yours it is really hard to remember to do it well. and if alcohol is involved, might as well just go fuck yourself.
/r/seduction09/04/16 08:38 AM
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having a great face isn't enough for tinder. you need to be ripped. those two combined work extremely well. but one or the other isn't enough. the girls literally have their pick of ANY combination of ANY traits they want across 5,000 guys. go fucking ask a chick to tinder and show you her profile. it's sick.
/r/seduction09/04/16 08:25 AM
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seduction has nothing to do with being the cool guy in a group, either way. life isn't a movie. hold eye contact, kino, ask questions, ask questions about the answers, kino more, ask more questions, kino again, and at some point trick her into going back to your apartment
/r/seduction09/04/16 08:06 AM
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this applies to facebook and basically anything that's a social network really well. just go on any dating site- everyone shares the best pictures of their entire life and it can easily feel like you're inadequate in comparison. but hang out with them day to day? they're just normal, starbucks-drinking, tv-watching, boring fucks. so hard to keep perspective on things but so important
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:56 AM
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be charismatic and thread your conversations.. aka asking questions and asking more questions about the answers given to get below surface level bullshit answers. google juggler's method (beginning part is about that sort of, bit more advanced) it's a quantity game. most girls aren't going to give a fuck or will be taken or whatever. just keep trying. get ripped, in the meantime.
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:42 AM
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read book of pook. be really physical. kino is probably the most important thing i've learned here. touch is what women are receptive to. also if you find a girl that's receptive and there's alcohol around... stop. drinking. and don't forget to focus on her. alcohol might suppress anxieties but it's the anti-game.
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:33 AM
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I'm not sure if you heard of this before. But research shows that girls are more into guys that are unsure about whether if he likes her or not. isn't this just another form of being aloof as usual and proves you must have other options (and thus have value) or whatever PUA bullshit i can't stand to read about
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:20 AM
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So you mean you have never seen a nice looking girl with a fat and zitty guy? Or vice versa? i mean, i never suggested it was black and white. obviously fat guys pull hot girls and we all know fat girls pull plenty of hot guys. simply pointing out that, on average, a ripped guy will get more action than a non-ripped guy. acting like it doesn't matter a lot is stupid. and it matters MORE when you're coming from a bad place (skinny or fat-- both are really bad) it's an even larger jump. your frien…
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:14 AM
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Are you suggesting that if I don't study proper form and get it down to a science ahead of time, then I may as well just work out at home by myself? no. if you spend a single week studying the 5 compound lifts ahead of time (read and memorize cues, watch videos so you understand how it looks, practice with a goddamn broomstick), you'll save yourself a lot of extra work in the gym. you don't need a trainer. it's just a suggestion, if it'd make you feel more comfortable the first time to have some…
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:11 AM
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just going to the gym out of the blue is kind of dumb advice. read stronglifts.com 5x5.. specifically the pages on the 5 compound lifts front-to-back 10x until it's memorized. literally study that shit like you're in school. watch allen thrall videos on these 5 compound lifts too so you can see what it's supposed to look like too (watch the vids in slow speed over and over). practice with a broom stick while you watch. not even joking. or buy a barbell off craigslist for 10 bucks and practice wi…
/r/seduction08/04/16 05:10 AM
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And as for looks: they really aren't important. this isn't true at all. this is the provably false opinion of someone who looks decent without lifting, is my guess. anyone who's went from being skinny or fat to looking even decently good from lifting will tell you how fucking crazy the change with women is. it's night and day. yes, some of that is from increased test, improved self-image, and the confidence that comes with those things, but women are way more receptive to you if you look good. g…
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:42 AM
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exactly what i'd expect a girl to say
/r/seduction21/03/16 06:19 PM
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You could be hot and nice. That's the ultimate package. not really. being nice is a prerequisite to being a decent human being. and being hot (if we're talking about 6pack hot) isn't enough outside of hookup situations (tinder), although it sure as hell helps. i've yet to see a girl give any accurate advice in this sub yet which is always a good reminder that actions speak significantly louder than words when it comes to girls talking about how to fuck them.
/r/seduction21/03/16 05:56 PM
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However "will you be my girlfriend" is shit that 14-year-olds say. this perception is something 18 year olds have
/r/seduction21/03/16 05:10 PM
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i don't really see any advice here that'd of helped me before or now so... I guess I take rejection personally and feel that it is an innate judgment of my appearance. hit the gym, dude. lift. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/37ylk5/a_linear_progression_based_ppl_program_for/ 6'4 and black. you're going to turn into the fucking hulk. short guys would murder entire countries of people to be 6'4. my partner and many of my friends are black (brooklyn) and they don't have a goddamn single i…
/r/seduction16/03/16 08:32 PM
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can you give a solid example of rinse repeat in ltr
/r/seduction31/12/15 07:12 PM
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he's an extrovert? the girl picked him up- she asked him to fucking kiss, she picked the spot, she basically wore the pants. he even asked her why she liked him.. that's not extrovert behavior. and he still couldn't close because he's a nice guy ("blah blah wouldn't want you to hurt yourself walking here let's not fuck") this fr is trash
/r/seduction31/12/15 06:53 PM
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everyone on tinder is fat go approach irl
/r/seduction28/12/15 04:52 PM
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is playing board games in a club a normal thing? Things start to get interesting when I'm alone with one of the girls playing 1-on-1 and we're playfully pushing each other's hands and smiling into each other's eyes. Then some guy swoops in and decides to join us. He starts trying to get her attention after asking her if she knows me (she says "no", because we didn't even exchange names at this point). The game ends when the dude knocks it over, and she leaves shouldn't we be rushing to escalate …
/r/seduction27/12/15 10:46 AM
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just throwing out ideas: vegas is probably one of the best places you can be for pickup specifically and you can live really (REALLY) well there. strip and local scene are entirely separate. nyc is the best place to live in the entire world if you have $. if you don't go somewhere else. also if you hate snow and fucking horrible winters go somewhere else. i'm probably going to sd permanently soon. bit similar situation for me too- have a good remote job. perfect weather, infinite stuff to do, pa…
/r/seduction26/12/15 03:14 PM
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hell of a way to say absolutely nothing figure out how to avoid that response in the first place so, like, the reason he posted?
/r/seduction26/12/15 01:19 PM
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That is borderline rape. w t f
/r/seduction24/12/15 07:24 AM
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some weird (terrible*) thin brags going on in this sub
/r/seduction23/12/15 10:51 AM
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what's /r/seduction got to do with a chick randomly asking to bang you? seems a bit arbitrary.
/r/seduction23/12/15 09:18 AM
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no. i didn't understand anything about kino then and got friendzoned by the only girl i liked. there are a couple more girls that have wanted to meet me for a few months but i've been putting it off in lieu of understanding the basics better. which i do now... and now i'm pussying out because kino is obviously unnatural to me. one thing i do pretty well that definitely does get me noticed on these sites is dressing well. i've helped a few friends a bit too. if you can get a pair of slim fit + ta…
/r/seduction22/12/15 08:20 AM
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I was making jokes and she was laughing her ass off yo i wanna laugh my ass off, share some jokes romeo. edit: do you guys think jokes are necessary? laughing is pretty natural anyway. telling jokes always seemed very contrived.
/r/seduction22/12/15 05:01 AM
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i read over part 1. pretty cool steps to take i think. social anxiety is basically my only real issue, so might give this a try myself. approaching is hard enough as-is.. i didn't want extra insane mode :(
/r/seduction21/12/15 07:42 AM
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i've met 4 girls off pof so far (and there's a special place in hell for fat women that think they deserve thin guys, so no, they weren't whales). i have less game than any of you. literally zero, i suppose. i just made my profile seem really uncaring and spammed the like button on anyone semi attractive. never gotten anything from tinder. i don't lift (yet) so i figure i just don't meet minimum requirements for the girls i think are cute, which is fair enough.
/r/seduction21/12/15 06:14 AM
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ok fair enough. i have a hard time unless stuff is kept simple so i'll just not worry about it and approach/escalate.
/r/seduction21/12/15 12:37 AM
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This suggests that the initial glances you exchange with someone probably do not hold much meaning. i assume, by glance, they mean quickly looking and looking away? so not locking eyes for 2+ seconds? anyway, interesting article. it feels like just force approaching and force escalating makes iois meaningless- if she keeps going with it that is the only ioi that matters?
/r/seduction20/12/15 10:04 PM
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i didn't say they can't, they just usually don't
/r/seduction20/12/15 09:21 PM
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to me, a girl smiling would be initiating in a sense, which is clearly a no-no for girls. anyone clarify on that?
/r/seduction20/12/15 08:40 PM
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you went to a singles thing via meetup.com? she is asked by someone else if she has a boyfriend, she looks at me and replies to the person, "no, only dating" give her the DDDDDDD and yea fuck facebook. tell that other girl 'cya around then'. no body got time to see these retards taking selfies all day.
/r/seduction20/12/15 08:32 PM
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7 dates and no fucking = friends. she's even tried initiating the kiss(es) and still it's gone no where.
/r/seduction20/12/15 08:21 PM
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lol i just watched some of his vids on youtube. this dude is hilarious. usually i think these approach vids are fake but these ones are so average/stupid it feels pretty genuine. pretty big testament to confidence (..and lifting), i guess.
/r/seduction20/12/15 07:42 PM
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i was thinking that op writes like the hugest dork in the world but after reading this i guess it's really just the length/neediness that's bothering me. also what's wrong with dinner/movie/etc? too drawn out?
/r/seduction19/12/15 02:22 AM
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haha! the fact she is in her 30s will probably make the entire ride pretty smooth. go for it and enjoy..
/r/seduction19/12/15 01:53 AM
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in b4 she tells everyone you were a kissless virgin and you blow your brains out don't worry about it tho gl
/r/seduction19/12/15 01:41 AM
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LOL
/r/seduction19/12/15 01:31 AM
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memorize open-ended questions for when you get stuck. 'so what do you do for fun?' 'what are you doing later?' 'what do you think about [...]?' another thing worth noting is that it's not entirely your job to make a conversation. the other person has, you know, some responsibility. guys have to lead escalation but i don't believe they have to manage the entire goddamn conversation. some people are just uninteresting cunts without an ounce of passion in them to make up for it. not your fault.
/r/seduction19/12/15 01:18 AM
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then flat-out ask them to have sex with you. Don't give a shit what they say.. if they say no, move on. If they say yes, great. You'd be surprised at the answers you will get. You'll likely get laid by the 10th woman. Especially if you say women in general are attracted to you. It's worth a shot. Do it, you won't regret it. You'll regret not doing it. where is this advice and random ass 1/10 statistic coming from?
/r/seduction17/12/15 06:14 PM
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do you mean speaking passionately/excitedly/etc?
/r/seduction17/12/15 05:50 PM
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learn to be comfortable talking to women ftfy you already know how to talk to women. talking is pretty easy. being comfortable is another story, especially for us. but practice (while sober) will overcome it. i'm as qualified as you to answer anything else. search /r/seddit for keywords that you want answers to.
/r/seduction17/12/15 03:43 PM
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ok Aeon199 u are now a successful entrepreneur with 2 online businesses grossing 8 figures annually. you drive a lambo now cuzz m3s are for poor people that are below you. you post on tinder/pof/okc/whatever with a pic in your lambo that has a joke about ryan gosling in drive. probably quite a few girls check you out because who the fuck doesn't want a ride in a lambo (especially if you're in some garbage city where it's a novelty) and ryan gosling is amazing-- and the person who drives it is pr…
/r/seduction16/12/15 01:38 PM
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there's not a single part of that which comes off as condescending. i wasn't talking to op. obviously, the advice is to don't do it. it's a really easy thing to stop yourself from doing.. you just think of something else.
/r/seduction16/12/15 12:50 PM
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i'm not really far off from you. you've just read stories on here about a good looking 6'5" guy who has a double major and a 70k job who can't get laid all that girls know is that you're taller than them. 5'9 is WAY taller than most girls-- go look at average heights. money doesn't matter, as far as getting laid. i mean seriously, you going to drive up in an m3 and get out with your margielas on? lol what kind of fantasy is this. even if you had these things, you park somewhere and she never kno…
/r/seduction15/12/15 12:49 PM
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lol the more i learn the more i just feel bad for the girls. all of us sad fucks can't just fucking get the job done and they're socialized in a way that they literally can't no matter what. oh, man.
/r/seduction14/12/15 08:11 PM
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this is way beyond clingy. you're fantasizing about someone you haven't even kissed and literally don't know at all. it saps your energy and it's unhealthy as fuck.
/r/seduction14/12/15 06:23 PM
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Worse case you freak out and excuse yourself LOL'd. nice
/r/seduction14/12/15 06:22 PM
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not a recording, just sharing why autism makes it impossible to do, and a real example of how it affected an approach negatively. all i know about the disorder is that it makers sufferers have a lack of empathy. The most I can do so far is smile back or nod my head, maybe once in a blue moon I can say "hi".. but can't push it further yet. yep it's horrible. all i can say is, what you and i are overcoming right now is the hardest thing we'll probably ever have to do. and i can guarantee looking b…
/r/seduction14/12/15 11:46 AM
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i'm not disagreeing, but there are endless discussions that contradict your point: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/2ovchh/3_days_a_week_just_doesnt_feel_like_enough/ i don't know enough to understand where the differing povs.
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:44 PM
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eating well is easy for me, but i have no experience in a gym. 5x5 seems like a great place to be for a beginner, although it's only 3 days a week- anything wrong with that starting out?
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:23 PM
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i don't know anything. not giving advice. but so far, from what i've read, it seems like you don't really need a special moment to escalate. maybe you could do it in the worst moment and kiss her and she'd enjoy it no matter what (as long as you escalated properly before)? some guys post that they try to set it up and be smooth and all this stuff... i dunno man, who fucking cares? just do it when you want to. like i said, i dunno shit tho this is just observational.
/r/seduction13/12/15 06:40 PM
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fuck im so late to these parties. take it from me--a benzo expert, for the most part--the fucked up part about benzos is that no matter what you do on them it will not desensitize you to what you went through (there are countless studies- go search nihm and google). all that will happen is that you you will crutch on it forever, tolerance will build, and before you know it you'll be taking dangerous amounts. please trust me on this. do not take benzos for anything. if you want, drink before, i d…
/r/seduction13/12/15 06:08 PM
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could one of you give short field report examples of how it affects you in public? and why do you think you're so fucked? what specifically makes it feel like there's no hope? i'm sure others that find this would love to see what you go through. i know i would!
/r/seduction13/12/15 02:13 PM
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And she wrote back. Was my best friend in the whole world for about 5 years. you friendzoned yourself? lol :p I will try and think of a counter example if you want one. definitely
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:54 AM
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but being honest in this way has opened more doors than it's closed anecdotes?
/r/seduction12/12/15 06:23 PM
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whoa, nice response. thanks. i thought vulnerability meant something else, but clears that up!
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:22 PM
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create some examples for those of us with no experience or imagination?
/r/seduction12/12/15 04:40 PM
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isn't admitting to the girl--especially in front of others that she has to respond in front of--that you suck dick at talking to girls... bad? but yea i fully agree she's not being mean. just teasing. if you are fat and smelled bad she would have ignored you to begin with.
/r/seduction12/12/15 04:17 PM
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LOL decent sized college with more hot women than manhattan. yes, it's too bad we couldn't have gone to made up colleges with all 10s that are all available all the time. bunch of excuses man fuck off.
/r/seduction12/12/15 03:48 PM
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maybe you have much higher standards than me, but if i walk down any well-populated street in nyc i'll see far more hot women than i ever did in school.
/r/seduction12/12/15 03:21 PM
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by the time I was out of school and had time to focus on women it was too late. too late for what? i can meet infinite more women than when i was in college. i also didn't have the money to get fit in school.. was poor as fuck. i guess if you aren't in a large city you might be right. there's 0 chance you're right otherwise though. bloody excuses.
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:33 AM
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if I'm correct you are inferring that improving finances is a roundabout and somewhat ineffective way of being successful with women? yes exactly. but plenty of advice is to stop worrying about women and just focus on yourself. it's literally wrong on every fucking level. maybe even dangerous? guys in lambos don't get bitches because they're in a lambo but plenty of people think that. this 'ignore women, acquire finances' shit, for instance. such niceguy cancer. i love women to death. i want to …
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:38 PM
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appreciate the response, i admit i'm a dumbass. that said, as an analogy, this is like giving someone three options for getting to their local grocery store: "OK man you can do this, just do one of the following: take your car to the grocery store (talk to women) walk to the grocery store (gym until you look like the hulk) go hop on a random bus and you might end up at the grocery store (finances)" i dunno. anyway i do appreciate the response.
/r/seduction10/12/15 12:35 PM
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that's just not true? i've lived in manhattan around plenty of guys pulling in 6 figures.. plenty of unconfident nerds in finance, marketing, IT that definitely don't have confidence around women. shit, no one has time to even practice. the only thing you can say about someone with a good job is that they're MORE LIKELY to be a highly competent individual. but that's not sexy at all? i mean, if some girl is looking for a husband, ok, but no body here wants to get married. edit: frankly, this adv…
/r/seduction10/12/15 11:32 AM
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i see people say 'up your finance game' here and still don't know how that's supposed to help. isn't the point of all of this shit to be able to be successful with women because you're confident and know your shit? what's money got to do with that? i don't want a girl liking me because she knows what i drive or where i live etc. and dressing well doesn't require money, so this seems like a lot of bullshit to me.
/r/seduction10/12/15 08:45 AM
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story time tho
/r/seduction10/12/15 08:34 AM
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