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I'm so busy! ... k.
/r/seduction24/05/16 01:36 PM
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Just because that's how social dynamics work. It's an incredibly-complicated process. Check out /r/fPUA for some female-flavored advice! :)
/r/seduction04/10/15 03:01 AM
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Agree. The entire interaction seemed really forced and strange. I also doubt that her friends & family will have no trouble identifying her - this is fucked up.
/r/seduction20/05/15 08:38 PM
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I feel like I've doomed myself to making hundreds of iterations of this thing -.-
/r/seduction18/05/15 03:00 PM
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Answered this here
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:08 PM
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Dun dun DUNNNNNNN
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:07 PM
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This should work for ya
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:07 PM
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Made a new one!
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:07 PM
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Boom!
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:02 PM
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Hey guys! I wen't ahead a made a pretty high resolution copy of the diagram as requested. Hopefully this will work for your intentions. Now you don't have any more excuses, get out there and talk to some sexy ladies!
/r/seduction14/05/15 07:02 PM
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Hey! Wasn't working for me last night, but it is now - can you see it today?
/r/seduction14/05/15 02:15 PM
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The physical escalation part is really closely linked with calibration. Since you're taking a very aggressive approach (literally invading her personal space with your hands), you need to learn when she's being receptive, neutral, and unreceptive, and then slow down or maintain your escalation accordingly. So what do you do at the start? Well, it depends on the environment, of course! I could list out a variety of different situations, but that would only be furthering the mentality that you nee…
/r/seduction14/05/15 02:07 PM
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I'm glad you see the value in it! Appreciate the positivity bro.
/r/seduction14/05/15 02:03 AM
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It's one of the more complicated dynamics, but it boils down to building enough rapport with the group so that when you two decide to talk together, it's totally normal. Imagine you're out in the daytime with your friends: how many times have you let someone in your group just talk alone with a stranger for a bit? Almost never, right? That's why if you're going to isolate, you need to do it with the consent of the group. Just say something like "we're gonna talk over here for a bit guys, brb". O…
/r/seduction14/05/15 01:51 AM
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Remember to transform it into a statement, so get rid of that question mark, yo!
/r/seduction14/05/15 01:48 AM
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Yea, we're getting into the gray areas of morality here. I personally want to be certain that she's single and available before moving forward. It's just a boundary of mine. If nobody is getting hurt, feel free to deviate using your own moral compass as a guide. Note that if she hasn't mentioned anything after like 30 minutes of flirting, she's probably single anyway.
/r/seduction13/05/15 05:54 PM
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Do this: Go no contact. Remove all pictures or things that remind you of her from your space. Download an extension to your browser, and block her social media accounts. Change any products or services under both of your names to be under yours alone. Get out of your house and meet new people - try Meetup.com for this. Find a new social hobby. Realize that you're a fucking awesome person on your own, and that you don't need anyone else to tell you that.
/r/seduction13/05/15 05:29 PM
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Sit down with her! That should help the height differential.
/r/seduction13/05/15 05:27 PM
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Are you trying to pick me up? This is another really exceptional way to probe for availability. Keep in mind that everything is situational: ego boosts are not always a bad thing unless you're trying to follow a scripted set of rules for the interaction.
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:57 PM
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This one is really challenging to explain in detail, but essentially you should be prepared to coherently ramble on your own for about 30 seconds immediately after the approach. Basically, it gives the girl enough time to come up with some way to respond to you without putting an absurd amount of pressure on her in the moment (it's a courtesy that makes you look really natural). I'd recommend only doing this if she acts like she needs the buffer time, otherwise it's just going to make you look n…
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:52 PM
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A social hobby can be described as one in which you can easily (by simply taking part in the activity) interact with other people. Some good examples include: Joining an Ultimate Frisbee league (or really any team sport) Learning to rock climb and frequenting the gym there (highly recommend this one) Finding a board game meetup in your city and attending it weekly. Essentially: find something that interests you. Then, find a way to do it with others.
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:30 PM
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Ahh okay, I'm following now. I added in that line because many guys tend to think that the whole congruence test thing is a game they have to win, and then sit there getting toyed with for 30+ minutes. It's just a simple reminder that women are humans too, and you don't have to deal with shitty humans at all. Why bother thinking about it? For precisely this reason. You need to remind yourself to not supplicate by playing along with her games in excess. Guys tend to give women the proverbial "pus…
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:24 PM
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I'll give you one more, then you have to come up with one on your own. Let's transform "Where are you from?" Into a more interesting cold read: "You're giving off a Snookie vibe - you must be from the Northeast." Now, give me a cold read for another basic interview question: "What are your hobbies?" Aside: Doing this too much (more than twice) will seem really strange to her. Just mix this in with your standard conversation patterns.
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:20 PM
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Not sure if I understand your point here. Are you saying you should not avoid these types of women?
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:13 PM
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The google drawing application that's part of Google Drive
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:37 PM
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Coming soon! (tm) Edit: It came (not vector format, but I AM ENOUGH.)
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:51 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean here so I can help to straighten it out?
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:44 PM
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Yea, this is exactly why you need to have established some rapport with her before the delivery (you probably have if you're already pruning for logistics). Also, you need to deliver this in a very playful tone (hence why it's only in the high-energy section). Otherwise, there's a high probability of her becoming reserved.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:44 PM
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Thanks for your reply! I personally would much rather have someone come up to me and tell me why they were attracted to me at a club This is a classic example of why most men over-complicate these types of interactions. Approaches like these totally work! The underlying principles of this subreddit align with this, assuming you do it confidently. May I buy you a drink? I'm being a bit petty here, but ideally you don't want to open with buying the woman a drink. Of course you can do it once you'v…
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:40 PM
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Haha yea I get it's a joke. I just personally understand how easily it is to take certain strategies seriously as a beginner, and want to help others avoid that nonsense in the first place.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:33 PM
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Welcome to /r/seduction, friend! Yes, it does have a very subtle implication of highlighting her life of sexual abundance. That's party why this is such a great line: it's a tiny neg that also helps you glean information for logistics later. In parallel to this, you're smiling and acting playful to show her that being sexual is okay, that you do it too, and that you're not judging her for it. That will really help her open up to you throughout the night. Thanks for the input!
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:26 PM
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Who thanks for the gold, brother! The cherry has been popped, and it felt just as amazing as I could have imagined... Haha the colors would make it a very obnoxious desktop bg, but I appreciate the feedback regardless. Just remember to not take it too seriously; it's meant to be a loose set of "rules" that will govern you to success!
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:18 PM
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Thanks! I'll keep that in mind.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:16 PM
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I mean, most guys default to boring interview questions. Cold reads are a way to continue doing that (questions are the natural response when you are curious, anyway), but you make it incredibly interesting for both of you in the process!
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:15 PM
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Hahaha, I can imagine how hilarious that would look: some guy just pulls out this huge note card and starts reading off it to the girl. Actually, that might work if you pulled it off correctly... Just to be cover my ass here though, make sure you're only using this as a high-level reference on what to do - do not take it literally work for word as social interactions are meant to be innately fluid. Now get out there and start reeling them in!
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:13 PM
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Not all of us experienced an ideal upbringing to learn much of this on our own. Many of the people lurking in this sub-Reddit are, like myself, late bloomers that just need a kick start to assist them in their progress through the social dynamics of these environments that are essentially foreign to us. This is a solid baseline on top of which anyone can start seeking in-field experience without the crutch of saying "I don't even know what to do". Thanks for your input, though.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:12 PM
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The DENNIS system is the a culmination of some of the very toxic mentalities often evident in sub-cultures like this. Although those that promote it may be trying to veil their misogynist ways in humor, it's still a mentality that I'd like to stress is very unhealthy and counter-intuitive to be promoting.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:06 PM
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I was just compelled to put that little guy in there. Feel free to tickle to your hearts content!
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:02 PM
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It's just a quick one-liner to remember that any sort of "shit test" is not really as serious as you probably think it is. With that in mind, an easy way to show her that you understand the childish nature of the dynamic is just to agree with her, then inflate the insult to a comical degree. For example: You just want to have sex with me! Reply with: Oh, you're already thinking about sex? Well, I'm ready to marry you! As with most of this highly-contextual advice, delivery is key. Be playful wit…
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:00 PM
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Hey thanks for your input! Just to clarify for others reading this in the future: Don't take fishing advice from the fish; Someone who is married is likely very disconnected from the high-energy environments and social dynamics of a nightclub; Anyone who is this petty about your approach (and in particular anyone who believes laughing in the face of another human being who's trying to share their night with you) should be avoided anyway.
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:58 PM
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The DENNIS system is intrinsically fucked, but the physicality part has some reason to it. Most guys are afraid to be physical because they don't want to expose themselves to a more aggressive rejection. Being physical with confidence is what differentiates smooth talkers that go home alone, to the guys you see regularly making out with women on the dance floor. I'm sure you already know this!
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:54 PM
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Sure! I hit a bout of depression last year and decided to pursue therapy. Essentially, I had quite a bit of negative self-talk and self-value issues. Working with the therapist, she guided me through various CBT exercises to just me that it was all in my head. Although the experience will be unique for everyone, I personally felt a ton of relief throughout the sessions. Note: I will stress that you should take about 1-2 weeks to find the best therapist for you. Write down some basic questions, c…
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:52 PM
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Yea, thanks for catching that. I'll update the text in the new diagram.
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:48 PM
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Yea you could also say "are you single?" and that would likely work for you depending on delivery. Try not to get caught up in the specifics of the chart, and focus more on what would be an underlying principle. Additionally, what you're describing tends to be a derivation of "game" that many guys get into following a literal misinterpretation of the rules of attraction. Yes, it does give her some value, but there's 2 reasons this works: You're actually forcing her to comment on her own social c…
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:46 PM
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As someone else pointed out, the physical escalation part is really the only analogous concept to the Dennis system. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/seduction13/05/15 12:41 PM
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There's some really solid nuggets of conversational acuity in here, thanks for this! I get challenged on the "I know this is weird" prepend all the time. Rightly so, as it contradicts much of the standard attraction advice. The distinction is that it's more of a "meta" piece of advice. It doesn't make sense in terms of the rules of attraction, but it does tandem really fluidly with the fact that she needs to understand that your'e a socially-calibrated human. Now, to show this you simply illustr…
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:46 AM
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Hey thanks for your input here man. I'm actually not too keen on this iteration though. It's not as direct, and gives off a bit of a "try hard" vibe. I wish I could explain the distinction more clearly, sorry!
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:41 AM
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Hahahaha, you got it!
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:20 AM
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Try removing the filter on the required quality of the topics you both discuss. Comment on random things around you and ask her for opinions on even the most mundane topics that pop into your head. As an exercise, try to talk to her about the most boring thing you can think of. Your tonality and enthusiasm can make even a conversation about an empty water bottle sound engaging. Remember: She's just a human being like you, you don't have to have the perfect line to make things work, and over time…
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:12 AM
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Awesome, thanks! Just to be clear: are these guys all just basic website hosting services? Would I have to pay a premium to accommodate the bandwidth?
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:09 AM
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Yea, I was hoping you'd mention with something like that. This sheet is simply a quick primer that should help the average bloke just get out there and get a head start - I'll need to emphasize this somewhere. There's a metric fuck ton (read: infinite) number of possible permutations to social interactions, so I tried to keep this is principled as I could. Gonna try to refine this a bit more over the next few days.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:59 AM
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Also, any idea where I could host it? My personal website would likely crash with the traffic from Reddit.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:53 AM
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To each their own, but this is designed to target the most broad audience possible. 3 times a week is sufficient for adequate muscle growth for the average adult male.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:50 AM
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Thanks - I'll let you know!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:49 AM
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Well, they can be really cheesy if you use them excessively, but this is why taking action is so important. You learn the subtle calibrations that allow you to deliver cold reads naturally. Sidenote: Try to avoid discounting someone entirely because they align with one simple principle with which you disagree.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:47 AM
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I mean, I was already aware of all these principles, I simply collated it all in a digestible format for others to consume readily. Although I understand and appreciate the underlying principle you're trying to communicate here (focus less on analyzing, and more on taking action), I certainly don't regret a single second spent on formatting this bad boy!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:45 AM
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Thanks for the encouragement bro!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:44 AM
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Right, the delivery is everything on this. In retrospect this was probably not the best phrase to put in a diagram designed for beginners.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:43 AM
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This is excellent feedback, although explaining this concept to the average guy is much harder than just saying "be the buyer not the seller". Man, I really want to make an interactive version of this that I can use to delve in deep and clarify for everyone. Thanks for this bud!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:43 AM
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This is hardly a parallel to that misogynistic misinterpretation of human attraction. Nowhere in this diagram does neglect of the emotional needs of another human being come into play.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:42 AM
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I just made it in Google Drive using the drawing application. I'm gonna rework it in PS to get a better resolution though.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:39 AM
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Described this in detail here.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:39 AM
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If you can do more than four, great! This was designed to be read by someone who is looking for an almost catch-all primer for their lack of results with women. Going 3 times a week is very attainable for that target audience. Any more than that increases the odds of burnout. Of course, this varies dramatically from person to person; thanks for the input regardless!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:38 AM
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Good feedback! Gym is not for everyone. Regarding therapy, there are a bunch of free options out there (YMMV with the quality of these services). Alternatively, if anyone just needs someone to talk to 7 Cups of Tea is a really cool free service.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:36 AM
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Whenever you're going to ask a question, simply rephrase it as a statement with an embedded contextual assumption. "So...where do you work?" This typical boring interview question can be transformed into a fun and playful interaction: "So what's it like in the daily life of an underwear model?" The reason I like this so much personally, is because no matter if you're wrong or correct, you still get a high-energy reaction. For instance, if you're wrong: "Hahaha, I wish!" If you're right: "Dafuq? …
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:34 AM
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Yea, realistically you don't need to know all this. But knowing it helps break down barriers guys put up. Nobody can say: "I just don't know what to do!" anymore with this. The biggest thing is taking action, and I appreciate that the spirit of your reply here reinforces that.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:31 AM
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I really wanted to design it in such a manner that it was easy to consume, and quick to get to a particular section for a quick refresher. I too have a ton of pages of notes, but they're just too esoteric to reference on the fly. Thanks for the input!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:30 AM
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Appreciate the honest feedback. I'm trying to learn webdev right now, so I may consider making a more interactive diagram to learn the dynamics of production-grade development. Also, there a lot of things that you should say the general concept of rather than being particular to your style. Nothing you say is wrong at all but I think you get what I mean. Good point. I'll tweak it to make it more abstract. few things I'd add: a section on building sexual tension, one for day one for night. a sect…
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:29 AM
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Exactly this. The nuance to this phrase, however, is that you don't just blurt out: "Do you have someone fucking you currently?". It just reinforces your social calibration because it's a bit more smooth.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:27 AM
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Calibrate is the term I use to describe how you should be acting when trying some of the more "abnormal" techniques (like being openly physical on the approach). Essentially, it means this: If the girl is not receptive to your advances, you should tone it down a bit and then gradually ramp up a little later in the interaction. Note that this doesn't mean that if she is neutral you should stop. Unless she physically shows discomfort - press on! Calibration just shows that you're an attuned social…
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:24 AM
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Yea I'll work on that. Should be able to do that in PS
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:22 AM
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Nice! Just remember it's not the be all-end all of seduction. Just a quick reference guide for a big part of it.
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:21 AM
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Hey thanks for the feedback!
/r/seduction13/05/15 02:21 AM
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Please leave any feedback in the comments here! I know most of the material is subjective, but getting a solid resource here would be awesome. Edit: Made a high-res copy for printing if you want!
/r/seduction12/05/15 09:51 PM
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Those executables...so unpredictable at times!
/r/seduction29/03/15 11:55 PM
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I'll give you four more examples, laid out by increasing difficulty, with my personal solutions in spoiler text. Challenge yourself to do the association on your own first! Bonus: Do it in less than 10 seconds. Noun 1: Water Noun 2: Genitals Relation: My Solution (Hover Over) Noun 1: Your Eyebrows Noun 2: Nudity Relation: My Solution (Hover Over) Noun 1: A Thorn Noun 2: Condoms Relation: My Solution (Hover Over) Noun 1: Some Sandals Noun 2: Her Inner Thighs Relation: My Solution (Hover Over) Jus…
/r/seduction21/03/15 05:47 AM
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That's fine, but don't belittle yourself man. Just acknowledge that you'd rather have done it in person, but the circumstances weren't right or something. As a side note, don't get your hopes up about this working out for you lol. Best of luck out there!
/r/seduction20/03/15 05:27 PM
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Damn, this is hilarious! I have nothing to prove to you. My techniques work without harming anyone. Yours are belittlding and reak of false confidence; that kind of advice should not be given in a forum like this. Resulting to tracking through post history to extract a vulnerability of mine is laughably low, and is a sound example of your character as a human being. I pity you man! If you ever want to shape up your life paradigms, send me a PM. :)
/r/seduction20/03/15 05:22 PM
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Check the sidebar to read up on key IOIs. All of these are largely significant IOIs. Even if they weren't, you should be assuming attraction until proven otherwise anyway. How will you know for sure? Ask her out!
/r/seduction20/03/15 04:54 AM
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This: [...] and that you suppose she can tag along if she doesn't get in the way. ...and this: [...] poke fun at how desperate she is for attention. ...are both simply rude things to say to anyone. If you'd want to do this in a flirty manner, you could pull it off (when balanced with regular conversation, ofc), but you're not specifying that in your original posts man.
/r/seduction20/03/15 04:34 AM
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Typically girls will never approach a guy like this unless they're clearly interested (and borderline frustrated with his lack of action). If what you're saying is true, then she unequivocally wants the D. If you are also interested, ask her out already, damn it!
/r/seduction20/03/15 04:29 AM
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[...] draw the ugliest picture of her that you can, buck teeth, moles, a slight moustache (bonus if she has one), and then show it to her and say this is how i see you in my head, i want you to see how beautiful you really are. If this does not scream misogyny to you, then you need to work on your social calibration. You're resorting to belittling women so that you can build up the balls to talk to them (likely because of some past experience). This is the textbook definition of misogyny.
/r/seduction20/03/15 03:46 AM
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Wow man, I understand! I understand the kind of hurt you feel, and I get the impression that there are many others in this sub-reddit who feel similarly. But you're solving your problems in an innately unhealthy and misogynistic manner. Let's take a wander through your post: [...] It Forces them off the pedestal because now they aren't a goddess like creature that has to be worshiped... No, now they're human. And I'm human. That means I can talk to her like a normal person. You don't treat human…
/r/seduction20/03/15 03:39 AM
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Of everything you've contributed so far, this is the best advice. Exudes a ton of confidence without being a condescending primate about it. Be sure to only steal a small amount of food though, a few fries jokingly here and there, and you'll be fine!
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:35 AM
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Again, very demeaning towards women in general - this is textbook false confidence and should be avoided.
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:32 AM
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Hey Jman, I understand that you seem to have a problem with my technique, but you should really not be giving these kind of pointers to people coming here seeking genuine advice. Sure, acting like an asshat gets you girls, but it's because it shows a low level of investment in the girl, and therefore "fakes" a high level of investment in yourself. Instead, you should take the higher approach and simply invest in yourself so that you naturally don't give a shit about what girls think, then just b…
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:31 AM
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This type of behavior exudes false confidence. You'll attract plenty of girls with no self esteem, but this will not work for most quality women.
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:28 AM
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Thanks for being so candid with this, man! It takes a real man to make himself vulnerable on an open forum for this. I'm a big proponent of the idea that most men can make themselves at least attractive enough to be embraced by most girls. But then again, girls are not the judge of your attractiveness. As /u/Armanos1 suggested, build some inner confidence, and you'll see that it impacts your physical expression of yourself too. Women aren't attracted to men like we are to them (almost entirely p…
/r/seduction19/03/15 09:11 PM
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Frame rejection as a gift. She blew me off without giving me a chance to show off my personality? What a rude human being; I'm glad I don't have to talk to her anymore! She flaked on me three times? Wow, I'm glad I don't have to bother dating someone so insecure! She screamed at me in the club when I approached? What a crazy girl - dodged a bullet there! Rejection is nature's way of keeping you from damaging relationships. Learn to see it as such - embrace it - and you'll begin to dominate!
/r/seduction19/03/15 09:06 PM
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/u/daygamecoach put it nicely: he needs to do it for himself. You can still be his pivot if you'd like, but you'll have to leave him to his own devices some point with the target to do it effectively, and he'll likely just fuck it up if he doesn't have that inner confidence going already.
/r/seduction19/03/15 09:02 PM
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Hmm, it looks like you put little effort into the photo or your appearance. Also, are you intentionally scrunching your mouth to the side like that? Fortunately, there's a ton of potential in your physical appearance. Your dark brown eyes and long thick hair could really mesh well if you just tried a little harder. Here's some advice: Head over to /r/malehairadvice and get a new style going. Check out /r/skincareaddiction to clean up the acne. Consider tidying up your eyebrows very slightly. It'…
/r/seduction19/03/15 08:46 PM
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Oh, I see! Okay, so I'll put it this way. You just have to decide what you want: If you sleep with the best friend, you run the risk of the main girl getting upset and next-ing you. If you don't sleep with the best friend, you can just pursue the main target with no worries! Conclusion: If you're interested in the main girl, then don't sleep with the best friend. As a side-note, is the possibility of a threesome on the table?
/r/seduction19/03/15 08:35 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
/r/seduction19/03/15 08:21 PM
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Well I was honestly just trying to be funny in my original reply - there's an incredible number of variables that would impact the outcome here. Since she's her best friend, I imagine that she talked about her experience with you. Since you say the sex is good, you have that going for you. But again, what if she doesn't feel comfortable fucking some dude that fucked her best friend? What if she does feel comfortable, but doesn't want to intrude on her friend's trust? What if she just isn't into …
/r/seduction19/03/15 08:21 PM
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You can try practicing word association games daily. For example, take 2 unrelated nouns, and try to connect them immediately. Obviously, in this case you'd focus more on the sexual nouns. Noun 1: A Cucumber Noun 2: A Kiss Relation: My girlfriend used to use this really pungent cucumber-infused facewash to "open up her pores" or some shit. Either way, every time I smell fresh veggies I feel the urge to make out with someone. Once you've mastered this, it's about having the balls to actually say …
/r/seduction19/03/15 07:46 PM
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You don't need an excuse: just be honest! Excuse me! Hey, I saw you walking by and thought you looked incredibly beautiful. I'd be kicking myself later if I didn't get to meet you, so hey - my name is billmcflame [extend hand and smile]. I know this doesn't sound intuitive, but it's all you need. If you really want to you can also pre-pend a "Hey I know this is random" if you forcibly stop her from walking or something.
/r/seduction19/03/15 04:43 PM
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[...] will sitting next to a girl I find attractive be weird? Not at all - you're entitled to sit anywhere you want. If anything, she'll later realize that you planned it and probably think highly of you. I'm not being negative but what if she has a boyfriend or some shit and then I will be seeing her in class everyday wouldn't it make it awkward for us? If she has a boyfriend (or if she just straight up rejects you), then you just laugh about it and play it off. Many guys seem to think that if …
/r/seduction19/03/15 04:39 PM
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Depends on how good the sex was.
/r/seduction19/03/15 04:29 PM
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For those of you who don't know who this is: it's Elliot Chang, a comedian and self-improvement advocate. Probably one of the coolest dudes on YouTube! I recommend you subscribe to his YouTube channel as it's full of awesome content like this.
/r/seduction19/03/15 04:15 PM
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As a wise man once said: rejection is just nature's way of keeping you from relationships that aren't ideal. Embrace them and have fun out there!
/r/seduction19/03/15 03:11 AM
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I think that second last quote I linked really stood out for me: For me, it wouldn't make a big difference. I expect each new partner to learn what I need because I'm not going to be the same as their last partner. And I expect to learn what each new partner needs because they won't be the same as other people I've slept with. Think about it. Being a virgin just means you haven't been with a girl before. Thinking this will hold you back assumes that all girls are the same and that if you had bee…
/r/seduction19/03/15 02:33 AM
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You're making quite a few assumptions about women your age and sex. A common theme I observed in that thread you linked related a man's virginity with an associated social hindrance. If you can show that you're a socially-adjusted guy, there should be no problem with this! Additionally, these women seem to be disgruntled with having to teach. Although having sex is an ideal way to learn how to have sex, you can at least educate yourself significantly on the internet, or over on /r/sex beforehand…
/r/seduction19/03/15 02:24 AM
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You've talked to her nine times, but never made an advance? You may be in the friend-zone yourself, my friend. But alas, there is one way to find out for sure: escalate! You're asking about the approach, but you've already done the approaching. The process for escalating on a "warm" approach: Walk up to her and her friends. Partake in some natural greeting. The next steps vary based on context: If you can isolate her in some way, that would be ideal. At that point, just say something like this: …
/r/seduction19/03/15 02:16 AM
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Don't bring it up yourself. If she asks, be honest. Most girls will be intrigued by this and want to take your virginity anyway. Especially later in life: how many times does a 30 year-old women get to be with a man for the first time? Further, she'll sincerely appreciate your honesty and that you're willing to be vulnerable with her. But you're worried about her judging you for your lack of performance, right? Let's be honest: you're probably going to fumble your way through your first sexual e…
/r/seduction19/03/15 02:00 AM
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Neither of the two are intrinsically "more important". What is important is that you're living your life authentically and are partaking in a lifestyle that you enjoy. If that's the case, then your natural confidence will ooze through everything you do. Just make sure you have a "healthy" physique (bodybuilder or not), and then just have a fucking awesome life that you can bring amazing women into!
/r/seduction19/03/15 01:55 AM
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This is the golden question, right? Fake it 'til you make it yields false confidence. Although you'll still be exhibiting the traits of a confident male, you're true self will eventually show itself. It's not sustainable, and at times demeaning towards women. Now, true confidence, as you seem to hint at here comes from being less invested in others as you are in your perception of yourself (taken from Mark Manson's book Models - you should absolutely positively read this book). To reach this sta…
/r/seduction18/03/15 11:23 PM
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Instead of asking for her number, find her on Facebook and communicate that way. Typically, if I just want to be friends with a girl, I'll go the Facebook route instead as not only is it very indirect, it kills attraction because it makes you look very unconfident, without sacrificing comfort. Alternatively, you could get her number, but phrase it like this: "Let's exchange contact info so we can all (you and the rest of your coworkers) hangout sometime." This sets the tone that the relationship…
/r/seduction18/03/15 11:14 PM
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This is incredibly vague, but I'll give it my best shot. Do exactly this: Sit next to her. Introduce yourself by saying this: "Hey! I think you're incredibly cute, and I'd end up really regretting it if I never introduced myself. My name is Sarrum [extend hand and smile]. Continue conversation like you would with anyone else. Ask for her phone number. Close the conversation naturally. Obviously make sure you're well groomed/dressed well/hygenic (showered and tidy). Bonus Tip: its a drawing class…
/r/seduction18/03/15 09:17 PM
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The movies are a really bad place for a first date. Why? Precisely as you said: there's hardly any say for you 2 to establish a connection. Now, obviously this is different based on your demographics (age in particular), but I'd try to go somewhere before the movie starts to build a connection and some sexual tension. During the movie itself, I wouldn't expect much unless she's into exhibitionism. Although its dark, its still a public place and its hard for many girls to want to escalate physica…
/r/seduction18/03/15 09:11 PM
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You should not get yourself in this situation. Just think of the underlying message you're sending the girl: "I'm not confident enough in my personal expression of myself that I had to wait until I was safely behind a computer to talk to you honestly about my feelings." You're going to have a very hard time pulling this off, but if it's going to work, you need to just be honest with her. Ideally, you want to use Facebook to setup a second date. An example would be the following: "Hey, [name here…
/r/seduction18/03/15 09:05 PM
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So you're asking if we think she's interested? If you're being upfront about your sexual intent (she doesn't think of you as a friend), then this behavior would indicate that she is indeed interested. As a general rule of thumb though, you should always assume that a girl is interested in you until she clearly states that she is not. Have fun at the movies!
/r/seduction18/03/15 08:56 PM
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This is a really good question. Normally, when a girl says she isnt ready, id suggest just moving on to one if the other hundreds of million of women out there, but considering she does have a legitimate excuse, I'd reccomend a different (yet similar)approach. You've already stated your sexual interest, and she seems to be very receptive to your advances, so your chances of falling into the friend zone are slim. With that in mind, I'd highly reccomend just giving her space for as long as she wan…
/r/seduction18/03/15 08:50 PM
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You gotta focus on building comfort as well as sexual tension. Try sharing some intimate stories about yourself and get her to do the same. Show her that youre a genuinely interesting human being who appreciates her as a person and not just a sex object.
/r/seduction18/03/15 08:35 PM
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Assume attraction until proven wrong by her directly (read: her saying "I think we should just stay friends" or some other variant).
/r/seduction18/03/15 08:32 PM
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Do you genuinely believe in what you're saying? If this is the case, then simply start off by complimenting on less personal things to most people you meet (girls and guys). For example: That's a really cool sweater/bracelet/necklace/watch/pair of shoes! You looked like a total badass playing basketball today. Hey man, that's a pretty inspirational hairstyle. Then, move it on up to more personal (and possibly sexual compliments depending on the context). The key here is to build your confidence …
/r/seduction18/03/15 07:42 PM
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Take a read into this. Quick TL;DR: If she's not incredibly enthusiastic about dating you, the relationship is being framed for inadequacy from the start. Of course, there could be other reasons as to why she's hesitant (personal insecurities, etc.), but with over 150 million women in the US alone, why not find someone else who's incredibly excited about how awesome you are? Better yet, someone who has little to no insecurities?
/r/seduction18/03/15 07:33 PM
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She mentioned once during the conversation that she had a boyfriend but I asked for her number regardless. This is your answer right here. Typically you can still get the number under these circumstances if you play it off as if you're going to be friends. But you did the honest thing and made your intentions clear, so she was able to make an informed decision. Essentially, she didn't want to get involved with someone else since she's already emotionally involved with someone else. It's as simpl…
/r/seduction18/03/15 07:25 PM
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Don't worry so much about waiting; but you should text her once within at least 1-2 hours telling her that it was nice to meet her. Instead of purposely delaying your initial communication, try to focus on having a great busy life so that your responses are naturally delayed.
/r/seduction18/03/15 07:20 PM
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Girls will usually give you their numbers because it's easier for them to give it and never respond than reject you to your face. Try to focus on building more rapport (comfort) before and after going for the number (before ending the interaction) if the circumstances allow it.
/r/seduction18/03/15 07:19 PM
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I read a post on here a while ago about a guy that got over his fear by touching everybody. Literally every person he ever interacted with, he'd give them a slight tap on the shoulder or a soft touch near the elbow. Once you've taught yourself that you're the kind of person who is comfortable touching anyone, it will feel much more intuitive to escalate with women in particular. Give that a shot!
/r/seduction18/03/15 03:35 PM
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But more to the point, the only reason for it to be an awkward moment is if she's not digging him and doesn't know how best to turn him down The "awkwardness" comes from the vulnerability of the situation. She's being forced to showcase her attraction or reject him publicly. The way to make it not awkward is to believe (and so act like) it's the most normal, reasonable thing in the world - relaxed, and matter-of-fact, without any reason to be assertive. You can't "believe" your way out of very r…
/r/seduction18/03/15 03:35 AM
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Wut?
/r/seduction17/03/15 03:32 AM
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Hey, I actually had a bout last weekend where I was unable to approach due to this exact reason! I got in my head that I'd be trying to suck value from the girls I approach instead of just being fun and showing my own value. In a way, I felt that I would be coming across as needy and inconveniencing the girls who are out to "just have a fun night with their friends", and are sick of being approached by guys. Could you elaborate on how you reinforced the confident mentality you described a bit pl…
/r/seduction17/03/15 03:16 AM
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We need a bit more context to answer your question effectively, here. I'll try to cover a general set of circumstances in hopes that it will help you regardless of your next situation: Situation 1: You've just met this girl at a club/bar. In this situation, you should be acting congruent with your personality (the same personality that got your the girl in the first place). Assuming again that you met in this bar/club, you're likely the kind of person that is very social, so just continue talkin…
/r/seduction17/03/15 03:09 AM
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Not really. Which means doing it helps you to stand out from the crowd ;D. Also, in the many times I've tried it, girls respond well. Sets you apart as a more confident and personable.
/r/seduction16/03/15 03:42 AM
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The employee was likely surrounded by coworkers. By saying "I know this is random", you're accomplishing 2 things: You're acknowledging the "random" nature of the interaction, and framing it as such for her, so she can laugh about it later with her coworkers and it's not incredibly awkward for her. This also shows that you're indifferent to her reaction, and filters out dud numbers. You're showing that you're socially calibrated. Although it would be more confident and alpha to be exorbitantly d…
/r/seduction15/03/15 03:25 PM
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The official Seddit IRC can be found here!
/r/seduction15/03/15 03:11 PM
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I understand that it's useless to argue on the internet, so this will be my last reply. Perhaps I'm using the wrong words, but it's not just a single article that's invading the minds of young men everywhere, it's an entire mentality of emancipation being forced down our throats via television, certain social interactions, and modern media. Of course there are a huge number of men out there who are not influenced by this toxicity. By this same token, there are also many men who are even somewhat…
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:12 AM
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Next time, actually kick your own ass. If you walk away: jump in the air and kick yourself in the ass so hard that you'll never do it again. Stay strong man - you'll get there if you don't stop.
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:01 AM
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I'm starting tomorrow. Here's a list of the unique rules that I'm applying to myself to make it more interesting: Day game absolutely must end with a number or a rejection (see exceptions below). Social circle game will remain the same in terms of escalation, but I will force myself to say the first thing that pops into my head instead of defaulting to boring shitty small talk. Bar/Club game absolutely must end with a number, a kiss, or a rejection. Dates attended during this period will remain …
/r/seduction19/01/15 04:48 AM
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You can control the sweating to some degree (unless it is a medical condition, in which case I implore you to simply learn to live with it effectively). Here's some examples: Try going out for ice cream or some venue where you will be naturally cooled. If you're ordering drinks, get a frozen margarita or something. Wear something that hides or absorbs the sweat. Wear something light and loose so you're pores can breathe. If it's cold outside, try to sit there instead of in the heat of the bar. D…
/r/seduction17/01/15 03:02 AM
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First of all, she will not be bleeding unless either of you do something seriously wrong. Just be understanding, and escalate only if she's comfortable (gauge body language and use context). Definitely stop if she explicitly asks you to do so. Make it a fun and memorable experience for her (and really the both of you)! Ask her what she wants to try, and take it slower than you normally would. Of course, always remember to be safe and use the appropriate protection. Have fun man!
/r/seduction17/01/15 02:49 AM
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First of all, you likely should have been more direct with your intentions upfront. Here's a quick example: Hey I think you're really cute/attractive/hot, and want to take you out on a date to get some coffee Remember that for next time! Now, regarding your situation: don't ask that question - it's going to come across in a sense that you don't have an innate understanding of social dynamics (you don't, but you can't let her think that). Instead, simply begin the date with a longer-than-typical …
/r/seduction17/01/15 02:45 AM
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I think it's extremely unlikely that I'm a special snowflake. I've grown up in a very standard path: high school, college, post-academia & corporate America. I'd be willing to bet that there are certainly hundreds of thousands of others out there that think approaching is frowned upon by society because of these kinds of articles and their internal-expressed paradigms. There's 151,400,000 males in the US alone, even if .1% of them were influenced negatively by this article, that puts us at rough…
/r/seduction16/01/15 11:05 PM
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So these hyper-feminist articles go viral all the time: this means that many women and men get hit with this material on a relatively frequent basis. Now, when it comes down to it, you are right: in an ideal world, all men would be stoic champions who are unaffected by their environments and don't have to rely on external resources for clues on what to do. But that's not the reality of the 21st century. Most men embody the typical "nice guy" traits, and when they see an article like this, they g…
/r/seduction16/01/15 02:47 PM
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Yea, the reference experience that I've had has been in somewhat of a vacuum. Most of my interactions with other females have been from the depths of the LGBTQIAP community, which serves as some pretty massive confirmation bias to my preconceived notions of women. To be fair, I have noticed that over the past few months, in meeting a more broader spectrum of women, that this is actually not the case. So, in retrospect, you are correct: dating doesn't need to be overhauled. Rather, these kinds of…
/r/seduction15/01/15 08:29 PM
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Yea, it really confuses me when a few shorty fringe cases like Julien Blanc paint an innacurate picture of what this is all about. If a man has the balls to approach you (and not act creepy), just be flattered! If you want to approach a man, go for it! There's no need to shame either party :(. Good for you, though, for not needing to deal with the nonsense, but at least since you know it exists, you won't be too thrown off if you do run into it.
/r/seduction15/01/15 02:23 PM
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As /u/NoSyte said, simply look her in the eyes, say "wait", take one relatively long glance at her lips (<2 seconds), then back to the eyes, and slowly move in for the kiss.
/r/seduction15/01/15 05:05 AM
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This is exactly what stops me from approaching most times. I'm typically a confident guy, but I've been very exposed to the hyper-feminism described in this article. I honestly have felt ashamed for wanting to talk to some cutie, but then immediately assuming I'm just going to creep her out and shrugged it off. Why are we being constantly shamed for simply wanting to start an interaction? Even if our sole intention would be to have sex, it's not like you're forcibly taking it from some girl. It'…
/r/seduction15/01/15 05:01 AM
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Dayum, keep it up!
/r/seduction15/01/15 04:30 AM
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Great observations! Couldn't have said it better myself. This shit is hard.
/r/seduction14/01/15 10:55 PM
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If you can do that, then more power to you. You're likely going to live a very successful life!
/r/seduction14/01/15 08:55 PM
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This is the end result, yes. We all want to be the greater being who can calmly yet boldly stride through life. As we all progress towards this state, it's important to really be aware of the instances when you violate the success criteria of one of your intermediate goals. If you continually repeat this violation, you should be angry with yourself. Disappointed even, until you get on the right track.
/r/seduction14/01/15 08:19 PM
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Oh, wow! Dude, this totally made my day. Your smoky-sounding voice really added a pretty resounding feel to the post. Thank you so much for this! Also, nice try on the pronunciation of the user name haha
/r/seduction14/01/15 06:55 PM
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One of the most real scenes you can watch. Absolutely love this speech, more of us need to drill some of these ideas into our heads!
/r/seduction14/01/15 05:56 PM
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Mmmmmegusta!
/r/seduction14/01/15 05:53 PM
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Yea, every situation is unique. I bet you're glad you made the leap, though!
/r/seduction14/01/15 05:53 PM
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On a related note, start taking freezing cold showers in the morning. It's a great way to train your brain that you will not tolerate the comfort zone. And you're in a relatively safe environment, too!
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:45 PM
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Giggity goo.
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:44 PM
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What I was trying to express in this post is that, although you shouldn't always be angry, at times you should feel anger towards yourself. When you fail to meet a goal you set? Get angry. When you back down after saying you'd do something? Get upset. When you find yourself in your head second guessing every interaction? Get furious. But don't let the anger control you. Rather, allow it to catalyze the change you need to make to reach those goals. Stay strong out there!
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:38 PM
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But the beauty of being a human being is that you can self reflect and change your old habits. Most other creatures on this planet are doomed to boring standard reactions to all sorts of stimuli. You're fucking badass brain knows that it's being a coward, and part of it wants you to change. Just channel that energy into forcing yourself to be more aggressive next time and don't miss out on another opportunity! P.S. Opportunities like these at rock gyms are abundant, but don't let that dissuade y…
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:36 PM
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Exactly!! That brain is going to keep making excuses for you to stay comfortable. Its a smart little bastard. Glad the post helped - best of luck out there bro!
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:07 PM
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Yes! It compounds the motivation when you realize that with all the crazy shit that happens in our world, that "someday" could quite easily be an hour from now.
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:48 PM
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I don't see how "take action" could even reasonably be misconstrued as bad advice. Sure, I'm nowhere near as experienced as most of you, but for other hardcase noobies out there that need a little push, I firmly believe this post added value.
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:30 PM
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Although I do agree with your point, you seem to be missing the underlying message of my post. Of course this is just one small act, and of course this won't work with other girls, but the point is I took action where most of us (including myself) would usually slip back into complacency. I'm relishing in this small victory, yes, but I understand its minute nature and will not be letting it get to my head. I hoped that this post would act as an inspiration to others more than anything else, real…
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:27 PM
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Definitely! Its always best to know and at the very worst if she rejects you, you can always turn the rejection into a friendship or just move into the next one much more quickly than you would have otherwise.
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:19 PM
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Hey, just keep doing whatever works for you! Eventually, you'll have her running all the way to the bedroom. ;)
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:15 PM
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You're taking control of your life - that's your normal state. Of course it feels great! You should try the Seddit 30 day challenge with me. It'll help you feel even more confident in your ability to control your actions.
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:53 AM
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You're a boss!! Keep at it. I know it's a cheesy overused phrase, but literally the worst that can happen is a rejection. In which case you shrug it off and move on with your important man life.
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:46 AM
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I totally understand! Whenever you start to get in the mindset of making excuses to retreat to the comfort zone, recognize what you're doing and do the exact opposite. The brain has so many spectacular defense mechanisms, but don't let it beat you.
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:41 AM
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The allure of the comfort zone is real. But the harsh truth is that we're not actually finding comfort there, but rather deferring discomfort. If we continue to avoid discomfort now, it's going to bite us in the ass later in life tenfold. Stay strong, bro!
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:35 AM
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I'll participate! My start date will be Jan 19th - want to make sure I can get some solid rules in place for myself with a nice structure to make these interactions more valuable than a simple approach.
/r/seduction13/01/15 07:37 PM
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Came here to say this. You don't want to get stuck in what's known as "analysis paralysis". If you want to learn strictly seduction, Manson's book has absolutely everything you need. Skim through it again and do all of the challenges he suggests. As Manson himself said, honest action is the key to obtaining results (just like practice builds athleticism in professional athletes). Edit: As Stairways congress mentioned, if you want more material that isn't necessarily a book, definitely check out …
/r/seduction13/01/15 03:32 PM
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What if I downvote with a sneaky grin on my face, tho? ;)
/r/seduction12/01/15 07:35 PM
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I remember reading this FR yesterday, and being really impressed with both the level of detail you used to describe the scenario, and some of the lines you used during the date - very suave! When I read the part about your kiss, I imagined that there were likely 2 ways you could have made it work for you: Lean over the bridge next to her exactly as she was, slowly turn to her and look her in the eyes, briefly glance at her lips, and give her the old Han Solo: "I know." Then, just go for it! Gent…
/r/seduction09/01/15 04:22 AM
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I believe that you have the right idea here, but for the wrong reasons. Not replying to this text is the natural response. The conversation seems to have naturally died down in anticipation of your date on Saturday. Therefore, by replying, you're going to come across as "try hard". This will lower your value as it implies neediness and that you don't have much else going on (likely not the case, but the game has these rules). Not replying, however, does not increase your value, but keeps it stat…
/r/seduction09/01/15 04:07 AM
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Totay agree with this reply! You got the number like a total badass (who would have the balls to be that bold?) And if you try budjng rapport through a natural conversation thread, the chance of flaking is reduced dramatically. Bonus points if you use context to pivot from going into interview mode with a playful identity statement or cold read. HB8: Just got off work and on my way home. Context Item 1: You are in a mall. Context Item 2: What is she wearing? Any clues? You: Hmmm, let me guess - …
/r/seduction08/01/15 07:04 PM
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I'm a complete novice, but I'd say something like this: "Yep! I find that in this huge world, it's the most efficient way to meet truly amazing women like yourself ;)." I get the impression that as /u/XeonExceldus says, you're obligated to be honest (even if she doesn't know any of the other girls). Owning it confidently seems like the best way to go. It seems like this would spark a conversation in which she reveals that she's uncomfortable with this. If that happens, then she's always free to …
/r/seduction04/01/15 11:26 PM
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This is absolutely stellar advice. So many people think that if they have social anxiety, they just need to throw themselves into a nightclub alone. Although this can work, you're essentially jumping right into the deep end and hoping that you'll swim. This methodical approach is not only more logical, but will likely result in more meaningful internal change. I like to think of overcoming social anxiety as training to become a pro athlete: so called "naturals" have been running game for 10+ yea…
/r/seduction04/01/15 10:58 PM
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Let me preface this by saying that I personally believe this is one of the harder interactions to pull off (not a beginner level set). Regardless, you can pull of anything if you do it confidently, so soldier on fine maromaro! This is how I would tackle the situation: Try to build some tension with the girl through direct eye contact and other non-verbal IOIs (before approaching the table of 10) Approach the table of 10 and introduce yourself and ask what the occasion is, use broad questions and…
/r/seduction31/12/14 06:38 PM
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The fact that anyone can be that clever with their responses on the fly is totally foreign to me lol. This was a really good FR, congrats on getting back out there, bro!!
/r/seduction19/12/14 09:14 PM
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Let's break your question into 2 parts: I'll answer your question, and then the natural follow up. Should I tell them about my lack of experience? Of course. Should you bring it up? No. But I would say that regardless of your inexperience. Old relationships are typically a touchy subject. Being deceitful about it is also the incorrect approach - if they ask give an honest (but relatively vague) recollection. Now, the next question you'll likely ask is: How should I tell her? You want to do it co…
/r/seduction10/12/14 02:21 PM
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