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With men's desire and ability to understand women I'm not surprised. They always take things to extremes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:36 PM
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Oh for fucks sake. Some men think that they cad decide what risks i have to take, some men decide what risks i shouldn't take and should do. Maybe fuck off with your decisions and let me live my life as i see fit? Yes, men are always a risk, i know that. I act accordingly, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:06 PM
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It's always misunderstood piece of statistics. "women are hurt more by men they already know", as if strangers are more kind and not just have less access. They are the same men, maybe even worse. They just don't have that amount of access.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:00 PM
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In a safe way meaning warm approaches so women have chance to determine what kind of man he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:57 PM
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No, but women usually don't want cold approaches. Women ask for men to approach them in a safe way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:55 PM
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No, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:51 PM
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They are not creative enough then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:45 PM
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Fun fact. If you make a comment with words "men" and "accountability" you get 10 downvotes without a single argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:42 PM
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What's the benefits of approaching men women don't want to approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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Feminists just show what a bad deal that was for women (and it was and is for the most part). Anyway, i have no idea where you live, but those men were expected to work and bring money in family. That's basically it. All the provider role. Right now they are expected to work because everyone needs money and men work regardless. And bring money in family with their spouse most of the time. Poor you, what a horrible expectation, totally unreasonable, you should only do that with a live-in maid, ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:05 PM
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And then what? I've asked them out and then what? "Women are violent too" - i can stop reading after that. So what? Does that make men non violent? Does that mean i'm wrong for being wary? Does that erase all my experience? Or other women's??? I hate that "but women". Fucking have some balls and talk about men for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:02 PM
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Masculinity refers to the set of attributes, behaviors, social roles, and physical features traditionally associated with men and boys. Distinct from biological sex, it is a concept shaped by a mix of cultural expectations, historical context, and personal identity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:58 PM
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He will be flattered and then what? You totally underestimate men's violence. I knew a man who had violent outburst because he went into my friends house to hookup and she didn't have a tv. It's totally unpredictable reason. We, women, live in this world. You. men, live in the world with peaceful men and dare to tell women what risks to take when you will have no consequences. If you had any stakes in outcomes you wouldn't be so careless in your advice and assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:56 PM
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Looks =/= masculinity. And looks isn't the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:52 PM
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advantages for whom? men? well desirable ones maybe. women? i don't think so, as a woman who decided against approaching after i saw what it leads to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:41 PM
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So future crime or past crime? Is that so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:41 PM
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i have no idea who you are talking about, but if you see the difference maybe it's time for you to actually explain it instead of asking me the same question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:14 PM
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What is the difference? Because both are jokes about rape. Both are making fun of that and usually making fun of victims or threatening them. What is the difference? Aside from there are specific people and a general threat??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:07 PM
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So both of those jokes are about a crime...and actually about rape. Hmm. Then what is the difference? Don't play stupid this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:03 PM
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Don't be obtuse, i'm not an idiot. I'll give you one more chance. Is rape a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:59 PM
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Is rape a crime or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:54 PM
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So that joke isn't about crime? Just a bad joke, unlike when it's about men, mhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:40 PM
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Exactly. Why would i choose someone lazy, let alone broke and lazy when it's better to be single and even better if i choose someone who is financially responsible and wants to put an effort in relationship. Men want me for money, for labor, sex, emotional validation and dancing around their ego, it's not like they don't want anything from me so offering nothing is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:50 PM
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In my area it's starts to change, but in really horrible way, that actually shows what those guys who don't want to pay are thinking. We literally have thousands of threads about how women are materialistic and blah blah (what OP basically saying) because they want their salad to be paid for, and then we have countless of men who ask to be cooked for and fed on a first date, or men whose first questions are about her living situation, does she have an apartment, car, how much does she earn..... …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:43 PM
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I can't imagine mangosteens in spicy fish sauce at all. Well any fruit for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:46 AM
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Just to remind you where this all have started. See your question? Read your comment below. And see how that somehow stopped being true when i asked more questions. Edit. For everyone curious, i wrote this comment after all chain of that discussion to remind a guy what he is arguing about. Because he changed his stance in the air and thought i wouldn't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:32 AM
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Yes, because you don't see where your logic cracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:28 AM
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But there is no victim?? Don't you think that this law is stupid? Why does it punish a thief?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:24 AM
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No. Well i'm not really religious, so i don't think of bringing children into this world as some sort of holy grail. There will be no perfect conditions, and well, people still will bring children for one reason or the other. Then i know that you see any criticism of men is "men are evil", but my thoughts are not that flat and i'm capable of nuances and complexity. But pointless to explain if you won't see it, so just take it at a face value if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:23 AM
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No, not necessarily. People can have skills and are unwilling to use them for a specific person. You might want to meet your SO where they are at. And you will not extend that courtesy to your colleague. and it's still fine. As long as you're capable to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:20 AM
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Care to explain that thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:18 AM
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No, sweetie. You just said that it's a skill issue, and you have no sympathy to people who willingly talk to criminals. They are at fault. So no, that backtracking doesn't work. Either admit that you're wrong, or be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:18 AM
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But why? There is no victim? Why the law is stupid, who does it protect if there is no victim??? Other people should just avoid those men and protect their assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:12 AM
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Your sympathy is irrelevant. But why should we arrest them. You knew what you were doing, they did nothing wrong. If you aren't a victim, then they aren't criminals. No hurt party (meaning you're not a victim) then there is no foul. Also i don't care if you knowingly interacted with them or not, it's a skill issue. You should've known who you're talking to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:07 AM
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Cool, i guess we should not arrest those people or make them face any punishment. Totally great position. Well i disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:03 AM
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Yes. Fuck, imagine talking like that about any other crime. "are you a victim of theft if you willingly talked to a thief". "are you a victim of murder if you willingly talked to a killer". YES. She might be stupid, but that's still a crime (or a shitty thing to do if we're talking about deadbeat)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:56 AM
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Well focusing on a victim instead of a shitty person is also a skill issue, tho also can be a personality one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:48 AM
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Dunno, is it a skill issue to be terrible father and create a child he has no desire to take care of?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:45 AM
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Sorry, but you can't just rebrand culture as entitlement simply because you want it to be. Yes, it's rules, just as there are rules how to talk to someone. And yes i talk to someone in a certain way because i want them to treat me well, just as they do, it's what culture rules do, they set expectations and that's how you know what's rude and what you shouldn't do in social settings. I'm not saying that all of this is right 100% and shouldn't be challenged, but challenging looks certain way, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:35 AM
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Considering how often men are net negative in a family for a woman, i say it's nice to skip some steps to be a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:06 AM
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Because they don't want that. They want women they want to change to be compatible with them. they want all women to cater to their preferences and take their pick and throwing tantrum when it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:04 AM
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For example, opening doors for women, giving up seats for them, men complimenting random women and chasing them and so on. These are all little things that are insignificant by themselves, but when a woman experiences these things repeatedly, she starts to expect them, and thats when the entitlement comes in. generally those things only happen on a date. It's not common in day to day life. Anyway, i see this differently. We didn't come with blank slate and no context, and suddenly i want you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:03 AM
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Ah, yeah, what feelings a man can have for me. /s If that's lust and i don't feel any attraction to a guy, it's just simple, i will continue as i was. I would be aware, but that wouldn't matter to me. edit. Chances are there are already men in my life who lust over me, i don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:47 AM
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No, i'm aware that he has feelings and i'm distancing myself to not "lead him on" for his sake and mine. I'm still nice, but i just spend less time with him and more professional or depends on our relationship. If the time has passed and we again become close i would assume that he is sorted out his feelings, and would just be friends with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:43 AM
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Sounds like excuses for their lack of accountability,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:41 AM
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Then fucking leave? Why are you continuing squeezing for affection someone who isn't interested and then blame her?? Have some self respect and responsibility for your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:34 AM
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It's fun you see women as people who can be interesting, if you enjoy it, it's fun if you're capable of connecting. If you hate women and only care about sex - it's not fun and it's a chore, as we see from men who self report that. If women are just a tool to cum and increase status among men, or a tool to validate yourself, then it's not fun, tools shouldn't have their own desires, criteria, moods and wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:30 AM
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Yes, it is hard to demonstrate safety. And at the same time interest. And usually the issue is a woman, as i've said when i just started i was scared regardless. But no, it doesn't look strange to me, probably because i have my lifetime navigating being attracte to....well.....men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:04 AM
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It doesn't work like that. I perceive all men as potential threat, even short ones. Hell i was once attacked by teens, they were 12 or something, they didn't have muscle build (obviously), they were shorter then me, and fuck they were strong. It's not about built, it's about readiness to attack, and men have it. And if all men do i might as well choose someone attractive WITH calm attitude. But honestly men really underestimate the safety aspect for women. When i started to have sex, i exclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:45 AM
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"I think that a plausible explanation is that, on AVERAGE, women have evolved to want so sleep with a man they not only physically fancy but whose personality they also like whereas men have evolved to want to sleep with any woman they find physically attractive, even if they don't particularly like her personality." I'm not sure it's about evolution so much as it's about culture and also safety aspect. You don't really want to fuck when you wonder if you'll survive. It's the same for men, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:45 AM
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haha, hoodie is a top game, but to quote incels here, you have to first get there and attract her first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:25 AM
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or aromantic guys..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:14 AM
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Same for men, my friend, same for men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:14 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:55 AM
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The point flew over your head. I said that men don't like women. Attraction to our bodies doesn't change the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:51 AM
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Are they or are they not responsible? Seems like men who don't catcall me also don't give a shit about me so why should i treat them differently? Take you for example, you just said that men are not responsible, and that men should make women uncomfortable. I don't give a fuck after that if you truly will catcall, i will treat you on a same level. My thought about the purpose flew over your head, well, that was predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:23 PM
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I think we just shouldn't care that much when women are uncomfortable. You guys have started to act like anything that involves discomfort or pressure is some societal problem men are responsible for. Well men ARE responsible for catcalling, who else are? They catcall - they are responsible. Then the question i have is okay, you don't care if you will make a woman uncomfortable, with what purpose? Do you think that will make meeting her easier? Make meeting women in general easier and they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:52 PM
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I'm next in the line
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:47 PM
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nowhere did i put the duty on men, but they are complaining, and they could improve the situation, but in their selfishness they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:12 PM
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Reread my initial comment, i already said what i though about should they or shouldn't they, i don't feel like repeating. And adding more context and nuance didn't work for you, well maybe it would work for someone else who'll read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:54 PM
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And you totally missed the point of my comment, but i predicted that, men will miss the point because they don't want to see how everything is connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:47 PM
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I'm not moving anything, i'm literally repeating what i've said. You see what i didn't say and argue with windmills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:09 PM
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They think that women don't lose anything by letting them use their bodies. And that they don't risk anything (only yesterday had a debate when men tried to convince me that i don't risk anything when i have sex, or the risk is so minor. They never had pregnancy scare and it shows)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:41 PM
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It was approved by mods recently
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:38 PM
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All i see is bunch of excuses and drama when nobody asked to risk your life and all i've said is that there are men in the story who let their friend do that shit, and there are more than men can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:32 PM
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True, and yet there are friend in the story who didn't step up. Men can do way more than they let on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:12 PM
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It's not the same, i don't argue, but it's better than nothing. And if you don't have anything, you will latch onto what you can have - hence friendship and male communities to be less lonely. All or nothing isn't really attitude of desperate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:01 PM
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Well we disagree on who is the privileged party here, but to understand that you have to have lived experience of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:52 AM
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That is also true for women. Women are also lonely, and the lack of (good, pleasant, safe) sex is not that easy to come by, but women manage because they don't build relationships only with men. It's still not the same as romantic relationships, and women feel lack of that, but it's not that painful when you still have community. I don't disagree with you, just adding my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:18 AM
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Well if your common knowledge can substitute lived experience, why common knowledge about men can't substitute lack of lived experience as a man? I do believe guys want what they perceive as equality, it's just doesn't look like that from my pov, it looks like i've said, totally beneficial deal for guys without anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:16 AM
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You are incapable of talking about men? How women being attracted only to bank account will change my point? It won't. How women not being attracted to bank account will change my point? It won't. Your comment is pointless, and the only goal is to tell "no you" as if you're 5yo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:06 AM
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You just saying that there is a difference without proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:02 AM
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Well to make that statement men actually have to try to do something close to what women do...But why would you, if you already think it's pointless. Anyway, my comment wasn't about eradicating loneliness, my comment was exactly about men, who do nothing while complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:48 AM
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Mhm, and then where are "women don't think men are people"....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:39 AM
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I don't know where you get this, but we're all entitled to our opinion, no matter how wrong it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:33 AM
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Oh, they are....attracted. To women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:22 AM
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Yeah, it was hard to resist, you know, the compulsion we women feel when men want something, the bio programming to satisfy every male.....but i guess something is wrong with me, they told me so. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:11 AM
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I kinda see your point. I also don't think gym's are necessary bad place to meet, it could be good if you're looking for someone who shares your lifestyle and hobby (whatever gym is for you), or actually even without that, if you see your dream guy/girl don't waste a chance. And the issue here isn't that man approached a woman, is that he did it inappropriately. So that behavior is what ruining men's chances simply because women are fatigued. Men can actually call that out, but they won't becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:05 AM
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I don't believe that men are lonely because they don't date women. With a way many men see women they are incapable of building a connection, and they still will be lonely with a woman in their life. If men are truly that lonely and that's an issue, why don't they form groups of men to get some sort of community, intimacy, support? Why they only talk about women they don't even like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:40 AM
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And that wasn't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:36 AM
0

"that’s simply evolution. Basic sperm and egg mathematics, only 20% of men are going to reproduce while 80% of women will. " - you might think it's smart to say evolution and then say whatever nonsense you believe it, but it's actually not. If it's evolution - prove it. "It’s why Scar kills Mufasa, and then Simba kills Scar." - sweetie, it was power play, nothing to do with anything. Also it's cartoon, proving anything with cartoon is idiotism. "The Pride consists of 10-20 Lionesses, their cubs,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:20 AM
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You say that it's hard to measure without having experience as a guy, but you have no issue assuming what experience as a woman looks like. To me guys don't want equal treatment, they want everything beneficial to them without giving something in return. And if some of them do we get posts about simps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:21 AM
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I will apply the empathy and help men showed me here. I was told it is sound advice, and since you're a man I think you'll appreciate it. Well choose better. Why do you attract toxic women. Skill issue. If you were attractive enough women wouldn't do that, they don't act like that with attractive guys. Date in your league if you don't want a gold digger. What did you expect, she could date and drain you, you should've dated the nice girl. It's because of your overinflated ego and you thinking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:52 PM
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But are YOU healthy (>6')??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 PM
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I learned what i liked, and can vet more efficiently, and my sex life enriched too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 PM
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Finding relationship isn't the issue. Men will stay in relationship with women they don't like, hate even, for convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:49 PM
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Alright, i get it. Women don't risk anything, only men risk their paychecks, satisfied? Totally realistic, absolutely not ignoring anything, but who cares if you're not the one risking it, and you've never known the feeling of anxiously waiting for your periods, or reading the side effects of plan B, or side effects of abortion, or anything that happends during pregnancy, or how easy it is to do an abortion anyway, or what is giving birth, and what happens after to your body and to the baby. Tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:12 PM
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I love being high n. I absolutely love that it lets me vet out some losers who think that women are just used goods. And since it comes with quite a bit of pleasure, i see no downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:05 PM
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And yet it's a risk. That a person takes. And then even if you think it's negligible (easy for you when you're not the one risking yourself) there are other health risks, and if a woman chooses to go with the birth (or can't avoid it for any reason) it's a torture basically. I think men forget. If they risked that pain they would be way way more cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:00 PM
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No. You really can't. I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:58 PM
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I think you need to polish a bit your history knowledge. Other than this if you want me to feel bad for not choosing some mediocre man who will offer me less when i can choose someone who can offer me more and pretend that you wouldn't have done the same in my place....well feel free, i don't feel bad in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:25 PM
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I'm not demanding anything from the whole group, i don't have time for all men. But when i choose, why should i choose less?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:16 PM
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Women are actually paying attention to "looking for" setting. Anyway, i have no way of saying for sure, but i'm actually one of those rare women who do look for casual on dating apps. I'm not really representative of all women like that, but i can only talk about myself and it's more than nothing. I wouldn't care about "boring" pics. I pay attention to different things. I fucked average and probably below average dudes too (i fucked hot ones too obviously). So being average is not really an obst…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:49 PM
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Well i don't think 40$ a month is a luxury, but hey, i'm not judging. And yes, i'll vet for liars another way, and for each and every of my standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:17 PM
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Well if those words are that difficult to comprehend then i think they will take "gay" the wrong way and will think of it as it is, attraction to men. I would also say that if those words are so challenging to comprehend then we have a bigger issue at hand with half the population being idiots. But i don't believe that, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:15 PM
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I will vet for transactional people another way, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:11 PM
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Well if paying for a dinner once a month is luxury for you....i think then yes, i define dating as luxury activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:06 PM
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I have no idea how to answer this, in every way? They know how to read the room or manage their emotions on shallow level, they can't imagine themselves in the shoes of another person more often than not, unless that other person is really relatable for them. They suppress their emotions, so more often than not unless the reason is obvious they fail to identify what causing their emotions. Their tool to manage them is usually to suppress them, which is a tool, but not universal one. They don't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:01 PM
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never too late
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:55 PM
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For the first part you're looking for a word "considerate". for a second part you're looking for "self-expression" Nothing to do with sex orientation. And women are asking men to be more considerate and express themselves more freely and not in their weird alpha macho way for decades, they don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:53 PM
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Actually yes, i stand corrected, i know people who do shit while complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:47 PM
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Ha, if only. They are failing in that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:44 PM
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Well in a way, but no. Most non autistic males are failing that in my book. Autism is a social deficit more often than not, so yes, unless he learns.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:44 PM
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The ability to read the room, understand what another person feels without it being spelled out, the ability to imagine yourself in another person's shoes and identify what will call for what emotions. Understanding of your own emotions and reasoning behind that. See nuances in situations. Ability to manage your emotions. Ability to talk to another person with their emotions in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:04 PM
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Or a person in general. You either do shit, or you complain. There is no other option
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:01 PM
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And again, what prompted that response eludes me. Well i'm not needed for that monologue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:45 PM
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You haven't dated guys and it shows. Guy pressure with or without leverage. But i like how you missed the point of my comment altogether to just talk about your agenda. Secong guy to do this today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:38 PM
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that is true. I just found it funny when they really can't compute that i have to get out of all of this something too. Like literally the funniest thing. I urge women to do this sometimes. Interesting experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:03 PM
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"now try to find a men telling "the woman had sex with me, called me a taxi and blocked me" - i can find you a lot without the taxi part. Hell, even men i've fucked are aware of this, they told me that women don't give second chances, and if they didn't do well she will just ghost. I've done it too. Here you go. I just love how you try to have this narrative that women when they have sex always will think of a man as "the one". When it's simply not true. There are many reasons to lose interest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:13 PM
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Yes, and a man is never at fault. It's always a woman. A man can want to use her, abuse her, test her, make her prove herself, but god forbid she would want the same (well in some cases it's not okay for both), women are not equal to men, in men's opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:51 PM
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Well they definitely should avoid men who call them glorified prostitutes. And then, why not? If men are willing, why should women settle for less. I personally would also avoid men who make conclusions based on nothing i've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:36 PM
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Does it? Because it doesn't sound like that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:20 PM
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And that is the definition of the moving goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:19 PM
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Depends on a context of conversation. If we're talking why men are not attracted to women, how knowledge that "everyone sucks" will help. Yes, in this conversation it's more appropriate to focus on women being fat. We can say that everyone is, but still, we are talking about men's attraction, so women are the main focus. If I'll say "but men too" and we start talking about men, who might be fat for different reasons, who might to do something about it unlike women, whose life conditions are diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:43 AM
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Honestly it's hilarious. They complain constantly about how hard it is to get a date, so i assume it's not even every week, and then they complain about constant spending. They can't afford a dinner once a month (better case scenario)? Sounds like dating isn't for them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:23 AM
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I view this as manipulation because it is one. It either covertly shifts the topic to women, with subtext that it's more important and what men do isn't, or covertly shifts the topic to some other shitty people, and presents it as not deserving of attention and conversation. Anything but actually addressing the issue. But that not addressing the issue is done in covert way, with plausible deniability. So it's an argument, covered in agreement. Like "women do it too" basically admition that men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:15 AM
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And yet you didn't challenge her beliefs, you simply tried to imply she is wrong by saying that her beliefs don't have peer-reviewed basis. That was a cheap tactic, and you know it. You acknowledge that you don't follow that principle for yourself. So the only way i can read you is simply "shut up i don't like your views but have nothing to say about them".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:57 AM
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Ah, yeah, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:03 AM
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It's a bit confusing. How "never partenered for life" is bigger at the age of 50 than 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:56 AM
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Never thought that shorts might hurt someone's attractiveness. I also think it would be cruel to make men wear pants on a hot summer day lol. Same with sandals. Legs matter tho, and i think it's obvious. Since shorts show legs if you don't have attractive ones...well it will show that. With speedos it's a bit different imo. Not many men can pull them off to be honest. I did notice that it influenced my attraction, but in general that is a small matter and i don't think it's that big of a deal. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:53 AM
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Are your beliefs based on peer review studies? Because there not many of them, and i believe you have way more beliefs than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:52 AM
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"We get it. You want the women you want to change themselves and their preferences in order to be compatible with you, but never seem to have an explanation for why they would want to (and no, you wanting them to isn’t actually a good reason)." You nailed it. These men don't understand that women have their own interests and desires and think that their wish is enough. I remember when i liked to talk to men online in some anonymous chat groups, a lot of them asked for my pic, and i remember when…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:37 AM
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I did that a lot i guess. I can start conversation with suggestive messages because i'm looking for casual and i want to see man's reaction. That means nothing except that i'm horny. I might lose interest because i found someone better. Because i found someone more available. Because it wasn't interesting to begin with. A lot of times when i'm chatting with someone i'm not sure, so i'm thinking yay or nay, and sometimes i'm in the mood and i'm willing to take a risk, and sometimes i think that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:30 AM
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I'm fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:27 AM
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Oh? Be specific, list me the whole world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:26 AM
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Good for you, but to answer your question, there is always a meeting point, and for a person to start to like someone, and for another not being up to speed yet. There is always some initiation, some first steps that interested party makes first. It's hard to imagine that both are equally interested from the beginning being a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:15 PM
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It feels unrealistic to want everything equally from the first moment. Well, you are entitled to that preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:54 PM
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I'll take it as you have no answer and as men like to do, you try to spin the table to humble me. I'm not playing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:45 PM
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What DO you want to do for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:30 PM
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Again, why should i care about you personally? When i try to pinpoint that, you sleaze away with"i didn't talk about men, it's all about myself". So fucking pick a line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:05 PM
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Doesn't help my argument? What argument? And why do you think this will help? And well, unfortunately i will disagree with you. I don't know why you think you're right, but i don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:02 PM
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Sorry, but this is funny. So you in a middle of debate switched to yourself instead of talking about men, as if you're that important, and you see nothing wrong with that? Well i assume that if you separate yourself from other men, you think that you're different, so men indeed don't pay attention to women's personalities, and that means women can be whatever, men will have no way to see if they are boring or not because they don't value that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:55 PM
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Risk of death and risk of paycheck is simply on a different scale and it's not in any way matter of opinion. But answers like this just let me know what men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:50 PM
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Is it comparable to body changes, and risks from abortion, and worse than that pain and risks from having a baby?? And then if she will, then taking care of that baby, and it's more than just paycheck. In your "poor men" you refuse to really see the picture here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:41 PM
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"Of course you say that. It's not convenient for you 😭" no. is that supposed to be a bad thing? Dating is for pleasure. I don't want to inconvenience myself. I have work for that. "What he brings depends on the man. But the reality is they do bring to the table off rip is money because they are doing all the paying lmao. Also they are taking most of the initiative. All you gotta do is sit back and watch. Easy mode" Yeah, except you're arguing that they shouldn't do that. So what else? Because if…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:40 PM
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How do you know it's not average? Do you spend lots of time with 80yo?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:33 PM
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Then again, men aren't looking at women personalities then, and if they aren't looking at them, then they have no value for them, and that means that women can be interesting and men will not notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:32 PM
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I'm applying logic. The logic is that if someone inherently attractive and doesn't need to do anything else to be attractive - they are less basic and boring than those who actually have to put effort into initiating something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:07 PM
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Alright, I will ask you the same thing i've asked all men who cry about female privilege like that. What men bring to the table aside from that? Because the way i see it i take risks everytime i'm with a man. Everytime i have sex. Then i also have dated men, and i don't know what you think about your gender, but it's not that. So yeah, i'm truly not interested under conditions that i also have to chase men. But maybe i'm wrong, and you bring some value i don't see that would justify me approachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:06 PM
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So....no arguments..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:00 PM
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Then your first argument holds no water. Interesting that i have to repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:56 PM
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There are only two options here. Either men don't care about basicness and boringness, and that means that a woman can be really interesting, he has no way of noticing, because only looks matter. Or as i've said women baseline is already attractive and men have to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:45 PM
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I can spin this around. Since women are attractive on their own means they are not basic and boring, and men have to actually compensate with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:34 PM
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Did you do it like you just did? "but women"? Or did you actually address issues sometimes and argue on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:15 PM
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And yet they do. You are as limited as you make yourself be. You are no different from 19yo who also feels doom and gloom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:12 PM
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and yet people date at 19, or 40 or 50. Or 70 and 90.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:05 PM
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"Do you think social media has inflated some women's expectations of romance?" - em this was always around. It's not new at all. So...no? "When you see women criticizing their partners for not doing these kinds of gestures, do you usually agree with them or think they're expecting too much?" - they are not in my social circles, because that would probably conflate with my values, so i don't hear about it. When i see it from the outside i think nothing, some women like that, and they are entitled…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:04 PM
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this is young fatalism literally. There are young people who come here and say that they are forever alone because they are 19 and never had sex yet. This kind of reads the same. Yet i saw old, like old old people date and find someone new. I don't know why do you think women will be alone, when i saw 50yo women date (and it's not who i mean by old old).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:53 PM
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It's not a debate. Everyone is entitled to their preferences and not dealing with trauma is really understandable. The issue is most women experience SA in some for or the other, so it might be unrealistic (he is still entitled to that preference)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:46 PM
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Everyday on this sub anytime a topic is raised about men, the most common reply is "but women..." and it can go two ways. Either hiding what men doing behind what women supposedly are also doing, or ending with "everybody sucks". And it might give an illusion of agreement, like "i didn't argue that men didn't do that" but that is simply manipulation to shift the attention to something else and avoid paying attention to the topic at hand. Ironically then men like to come and tell how well they ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:14 PM
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I agree. I don't even think that industry is a problem in that way, it just caters to fantasies. And i don't mind if some fantasies are explored that way with consenting adults roleplaying them instead of trying out in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:42 AM
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This is just bunch of biased anecdotes and i have no idea what do you really want me to answer. So i'll just tell you what i think. "A coworker of mine asked if I was gay or not because she's never seen me date or shoot shots." - and this is feeding patriarchy how? I just see a noisy woman. "Even in the big 2026, there are massive proportions of the female population who value a man's social status and income above all else." - and how do you know that they are progressive? Anyway, what isn't pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:02 AM
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thats how i know that i'm making impact here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:36 AM
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To think that this is what you did i have to be blind and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:06 AM
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No, men can do what they are doing now if they are satisfied with the results. Understanding can't come without empathizing, but they are free to not understand. What is weird is that you tried to blame me for the lack of empathy, but when I spun this on men, the mere idea that men should empathize seems insulting to you. Is this the next "women should be honored to cook for men, but for men it's below them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:52 AM
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I am capable of that, which is why their reaction wasn't a surprise. I guess for them tho it was, they don't like to see that women are not swooning over them no matter what. and that's exactly because they lack the ability to empathize with women which driven situation that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:41 AM
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Neither. As a woman i had no revelation about that, men reacted just as i thought they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:35 AM
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I don't know. How would i know? I don't ask my colleagues how often they have sex and who initiates. I don't ask strangers. I have only my personal experience, and seeing men's libido compared to mine, and i know about some of my friends. That's not enough data. I still don't understand why should i care. And how would you know? (don't tell me "studies", they can be misleading)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:29 AM
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I like being asked "hey, what do you think about this (keep in mind that X is a correct answer)?" Anyway, my answer is i don't know about libido, and really don't care, i do know that men's and women's sexuality is different, i do think that a lot of it because of nurture aspect, but exactly how much i have no idea because there isn't a place without "nurture". Simply because of that even with two people of the exact same drive but opposite gender, they would show and act differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:24 AM
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yeah, I realize that majority of men don't know what it is and think that it's great. Well some lessons can be only learned in practice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:17 AM
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The one who didn't expect that dating for a man is different? Because that would be another stupid decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:34 PM
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Because most of you aren't as ugly as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:43 PM
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Easier for me. I use those type of quote if i need to quote a large piece of text and it would be uncomfortable to look where my reply begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:33 PM
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"Why does she need to? All she has to do is compare the experience she had when she made the profile for herself and the experience she had when she larped as me." - this is stupid. I'm a woman, and i know that any man's experience will be vastly different from mine. That doesn't necessarily change my conclusion. So if that's the only thing she needed to see, she was stupid. If that's your intepretation, then it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:28 PM
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I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:50 PM
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Personal attack? Well anyway, i'm not nice at all, and people around me like me just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:52 PM
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Mine is electricity meter...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:39 PM
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Such a funny question. Either you think women are aliens or are you sociopath that never had true friendship or relationships? How do you know that you like someone? You observe, you see something you like....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:35 PM
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It's still better then what the internet says
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:17 PM
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Probably yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:11 PM
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You need to learn what homoerotic means. But objectively they are more attractive. The world behaves as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:28 AM
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I think men are so homoerotic that it starts to influence their attraction too, so they see men as more attractive than women. It would explain a lot. So when they say this, to them 80% of women are unattractive, but not so much for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:29 AM
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I don't know what red flags specifically women have because I don't date women and that means I don't have experience and data. In general I would do the same as I do with men, define what I definitely don't want, screen for that. Look at what I get, do I like it. What is a feeling in this relationship, am I happy, tired, resentful....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:03 AM
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He was also vulgar and rigid, he said that if she isn't into fishing he isn't interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with telling the truth, it doesn't make me phobic any more that saying that the earth is round. If someone wants to believe that man with cut off dick and a hole in his body has the same body structure as woman, then it's simply delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:52 PM
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This genital surgery just create an illusion. There is no surgery that will give a woman penis, and a man uterus and vagina and ovaries. Pretending otherwise is just denying reality. It's like me saying that i have a dick because i own a strapon. I only say that they have not desired genitalia. Everything else is harder to argue especially with censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:38 PM
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Yes, also because they have different from preferred genitalia (at least), we will not talk about socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:07 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:04 PM
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not wanting to date trans isn't transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:54 AM
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Ahahaha. Sure. As if old ass men didn't marry young girls. Marriage was political, financial, power union. Nobody cared about "the one".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:03 AM
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Neither have you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:39 AM
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I still don't see any argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:23 PM
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The autism in children (which boys are suffering from more) are strongly associated with father's age, and the risk starts to increase after 30yo. Just putting it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:46 AM
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she has to sacrifice anything to be with him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:06 AM
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Gee, i've read the first time. It's not an argument tho. It's literally you screaming radicalism when you disagreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:33 AM
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No, you think they are just some blow up out of proportion stories, that people just found and made a news out of, and nothing to be worried for women because it's so rare that will never happen. That's how you don't believe. You think it's unimportant. You think if doesn't happen. You think that this happened somewhere far away and only one man did it, and he is locked down for that. You don't believe that it's more common. You don't believe that women are scared rightfully, you don't believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:58 AM
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Did i say anything about feminism here? Do you have an argument relevant to what i've said? Or you just going to scream "radicalism" to everyone who disagrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:44 AM
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Ah, there it is. You just don't believe in those stories. Well it's easy not to, when you are not the one who'll face the consequences and have to deal with that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:36 AM
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"The movement of the 20th century was towards the dissolution of institutions which guaranteed trust, whilst providing no replacement." - no they didn't. Not from women's perspective. So no, trust wasn't ruined. Illusion was. Men's advantage was. "Here's the thing about the old institutions: they never required you to be a good judge of character. That was the whole point. You met people through family, church, neighbors, or friends — which meant somebody had already vouched, and that person had…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:35 AM
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"if a woman voluntarily interacts with men in any way instead of locking herself permanently outside of society, then she is a hypocrite for fearing men or complaining about men or having any negative feelings about her experiences with men." Next time i'll watch some post apocalypse, i'll know that it's safe if people are moving and going to get food and trying to trade. If it was really dangerous they would just lock themselves. Same with any setting really. Hell, i'm sure men's prison is safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:58 AM
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To me height matters, and always did. But i'm arguing usually about extent of that. For example where i was from it was pretty common knowledge that women want someone taller than them. But taller than isn't necessarily >6'. Then also those women dated men of similar height as them, no biggie. And it wasn't because he made some heroic deed, and nobody batted an eye too. So when guy say that women have some rigid standards....i tend to disagree. If they claim that height is the only thing that st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:46 AM
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then there is no data to claim that women are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:17 AM
1

Or, hear me out, you could have asked what's the difference. Nevermind
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:37 AM
1

Okay, so prove women chase the same 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:35 AM
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Oh, for ducks sake, you consentrating on personal, and I'm telling in general. But if you want to know personal, I gave up. I can do whatever and will never find good man because imo he doesn't exist, or maybe there are like 10 of them worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:34 AM
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We don't, it's your illusion and deflection.n
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
2

No. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:04 PM
2

that doesn't work, women tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:03 PM
5

There are no guys who don't hate me. We live in a misogynistic world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:40 PM
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Well what do you want? If you want a guy and he hates you, you'll try to talk to him calmly, then not so much, then angry, and then you leave and will try to explain why (still giving a chance to change). If the reaction you'll get "gee, why doesn't it work" it's just pointless. Tell me what will work? Because closing eyes and pretending that everything is okay comes with too high of a price and doesn't work either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:36 PM
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Children. And i thought that it's also abuse? So that would be no. We don't account for abuse that men do, and that's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:19 PM
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They express it plenty. Men just don't care. That what's frustrating. and then men also....do what men do. Dude, women date men. They try to talk to them. Those complaints more often than not are also attempts to talk. Men don't care. Men throw tantrums because women don't think of them as perfect. "So the men who listen to women give women what they ask for" - and those men are in relationship. "and leave them alone" - and those men aren't, and women don't ask to leave them alone completely. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:18 PM
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Of course it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:13 PM
5

Oh, do they account for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:13 PM
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They complain BECAUSE they want men in their life and are angry/disappointed/frustrated....with how men treat them. But most women look for men and tolerate such level of shit that would make you all lose your mind in a seconds and punch your playstation, tv and a wall too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:50 PM
2

Do they account for masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
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I will believe that when you will add collection of news about women splashing acid on men who rejected them, killed men who rejected them, punched them....well you got the gist. And even then, women will only become on a same level as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:24 PM
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Alright. I will not put a knife to your throat. I will just collect some info about you and use it as a blackmail. No bodily harm from me. If you are clean and good boy and have nothing, i will create some, i'll be convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:19 PM
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By asking the same question again and again? I think you just showed the weak spot in your argument. Not that it was a strong argument to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:17 PM
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Oh, for fucks sake, women WANT men, they want them desperately. Women try to talk to men until they are blue, they try to build relationships even when they don't need one. Men just suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:16 PM
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Oh. Alright. If i put a knife to your throat and tell you to transfer money to me you still can say no. Fear of undesirable isn't anything to be concerned about. You can also tell me to stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:49 PM
6

How do you convince with feelings? I don't want to have sex with you. Convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:48 PM
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The logic of the year. What if a woman can't leave when she is raped, then it's also not how "bodily autonomy works"? That's the issue tho, that's the whole issue with all of that, because coercion and rape and sexual assault are crimes against bodily autonomy, they are done with restricting natural bodily autonomy. Just as harassment, stalking, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:40 PM
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With what arguments? Convincing is an adjective that means able to make you believe that something is true, real, or right. It describes proof, arguments, or actions that remove doubt. So what proof there can be about someone's desires? Let me convince you you want to give me 100$. I will just ask you over and over until you say yes. That would be the power of convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:37 PM
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Convince what? That she really want to have sex? With arguments i hope?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:18 PM
6

And that's what he tried to do. That's what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:11 PM
5

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that he coerced me. Do i leave or not is irrelevant. He already tried to bypass my lack of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:57 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:53 PM
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"If a woman doesn't like how she's being asked, then she ought to speak up and insist that he stop asking, and that her final answer is no." - oh yes, because that will stop him. He just was so stupid he didn't understand that he should stop. He cares about her comfort. I mean i can do that, but that doesn't change that he tried to coerce me. My actions and push back cannot change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:52 PM
2

That's not an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:43 PM
4

ah, i agree with that, yes. Constant asking is a duress.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:32 PM
2

Seems like you moved under automod mostly these days? Want a show but don't want to argue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:30 PM
4

Eh, your situation isn't the one i would think when i say "asking for X constantly".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:30 PM
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Oh please. Kids are absolutely capable of making decisions on that scale, and if they are not it's parents job to teach them by letting them make decisions and show natural consequences of those. And i'm not even talking about teens, are they not capable of making decisions? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:29 PM
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Well with women we society decided that they shouldn't work and just depend on their husbands or fathers or brothers. Society can't be wrong right? It's wrong only if we tell women to harm themselves or kill themselves. Look, i'm not trying to start a revolution here, but kids don't have the ability to say no. When they do they are usually punished. I'm not punished for saying no to some guy who wants sex, and if i am everyone looks at him weird. With kids it's not like that. The consequences ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:14 PM
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Yeah, yeah, and yet children are people who are refused any ability to make decisions. I know how it is, everyone does it. Doesn't make it something it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 PM
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Children kind of do agree under duress, they have no real option to say no really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:01 PM
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ahaha, good luck explaining consent here. i also like to ask "what this guy who continue asking feel and going for", so far no answers, because we all know what he is feeling, thinking and going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:00 PM
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Okay, while i did have LTR, i'm not currently in one, and i'm poly, and slut (proud one), so i might not be someone in whose answer you're interested, yet i have a perspective that might help you understand maybe. I will talk about only my experience here. My tastes change drastically, sometimes even in short time span. I feel like in the beginning i was completely unsure, insecure, i didn't know what i liked and not, and i was just flattered when someone paid any attention to me, and scared and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:37 PM
0

That's not a guarantee, but that is a factor that increases chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:55 PM
2

That is something, but not the answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:08 PM
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This is comment about something, but that something isn't what i asked. I don't feel like having conversations where parts of it are imaginary and i have to guess what i'm replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:08 PM
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question. if someone attacks the person you like, i don't care who, could be your friend, could be your mom, will you just stand there and do nothing and say that you're not their bodyguard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:39 PM
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You forgot another option. If a woman says "i hope it's a hot guy" she will be labeled shallow, and a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:13 PM
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They already express them. Men are emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:30 PM
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I see what you're trying to say, but i think the issue is that the truth is in the middle. Women tell what they like, but they also mix it with what they think they like, or something individual to them, so a man has to sort through that information to determine what is true in general, what isn't. But then men also claim to know patterns of women's behavior/attraction. And partly those patterns come from observation, partly from logical errors in those observations, partly from some beliefs tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:39 AM
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You date so a woman would solve your issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:46 AM
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Well better sometime than never. Some men here didn't discover that they have emotions yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:10 AM
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Eh, i usually don't, so i wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:19 AM
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It's not about lack of possibilities, it's the tendency that people do not do that anymore. i don't know why you're arguing with that, if you're just confirming OP and my point by saying that parents do keep kids isolated. Cities can't do shit, it's just buildings, but behavior changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:06 AM
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Then it's one of not so many places where it's still happening like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:50 AM
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how old are you? Do you know your neighbors? Do you see kids growing up like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:39 AM
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Yeah, it's not written anywhere, but mods remove posts because of that regularly. It is an interesting topic, and it would be a shame to see it removed in the middle of debate. So i hope you'll post this tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:27 AM
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We have a rule about posts, one person is allowed to post one thing in 24 hours i think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:12 AM
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Interestingly enough n count is the opposite and discourse about how men don't want women to act like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:08 AM
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I agree. That is a factor. Also constant adult supervision too, in previous generations kids could disappear for hours and it was okay. Socializing under supervision is completely different thing. I do understand that it's more dangerous right now (i guess) but nonetheless it's a factor. Then also even for kids lack of places to freely socialize. It either cost money, which means parents will be reluctant or will not be able to afford it a lot, or it's complicated in organization, kids can't jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:03 AM
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True. But apparently we, females, should determine the average guy in the crowd and adjust our attractiveness accordingly, men totally do the same (not)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:55 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:22 PM
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They also want to be graded by the curve as usual. The thought that they might be not that attractive in general is horrible. Only that doesn't works like that. If you bring me 10 not so fresh bananas, i wouldn't call them fresh because some are even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:17 PM
2

According to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:21 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKeong1z-Po Iconic moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:21 PM
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Who decides what's fair? Like to tell me that i'm underrating someone there has to be an objective rating, and so far i know nothing about it. What do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:14 PM
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I like someone more when they are good in something i value, no matter am i good at it too or not. For example i don't really value cooking skills, i mean i do expect people to be able to cook for themselves, but outside of that i don't really care, so a person could cook as a greatest chef and i wouldn't care. But there is for example ambition, i'm not really ambitious, but i do admire that. Then for example there is communication skill, and i like mine, and i still would admire someone for hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:41 PM
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He looks okay. maybe a bit better than average if we talking about face. But i don't know, because i need to see more to say if i think he is attractive. You can't underestimate the power of mimic expressions and mannerism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:06 AM
0

wait, before was not you raging? there is another level?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:40 AM
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Cool, and do those videos show ukrainian men who also just sit at the tables because they also fled? No? Then congratulations, you're the victim of propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:18 AM
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I can, it's obvious. But that's okay if you don't see it. Well not really because it's basic socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:59 AM
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dude, that duy isn't dependent on me, I don't know what to tell you. I also leave if I'm not interested, sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:50 AM
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Because I'm not threatening, I'm just leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:25 AM
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Yeah, I was on a fense about who should pay on a date, but after ppd, I'm mostly in men should pay camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:47 PM
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For real, they are so good at this philosophical theorizing, they don't understand that it's life for us. Even more, it's their issue too, because that makes women tired and reluctant to be available to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:07 PM
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Then have you talked to women? Like men suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:58 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uy1ruv/women_being_sexually_selective_with_their_own/ You need to go into the comments to see that men don't understand and that OP actually complains about not being able to do the same, it's not that obvious in the post (tho it's pretty close to it imo)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:17 PM
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Ah, i see. You lack fundamental understanding of how people work. Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:15 PM
2

Again, can you answer me a simple question, why would i choose someone who offers less?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:08 PM
2

Oh, i ask. But right now i'm asking you, why should i choose someone who offers me less, when there is someone who offers more? Can you answer it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:57 PM
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"Leaving aside the fact that I explicitly said I’d go with both." - and what if there are not just two women but lets say 100 000? you can't no matter how you desire choose all of them. So you'll choose those who have bigger boobs. It doesn't matter what you think, the question is simple, a man offers me more than another, why i would choose someone who offers me less?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:47 PM
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The thing is it's wrong because we assume that those men's goal is to get women. But what if we are looking at this wrong. What is those men's goal is to belong in some form of a brotherhood? They would need then to share common views or something in common, and in this case their ideology about dating and gender. Women are secondary here, they would add status points, but changing their view will mean losing so much, that no woman is worth it. So they follow gurus and they chat with their bro's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:45 PM
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"That's a very generous interpretation - towards him, and very ungenerous towards her. Do you find it unbelievable that some men change after children? Or hide their characters until children are involved?" - do men show their true colors when they think that woman is locked? Yes. But do they show signs before - also yes. It's in woman's best interests to learn and spot those tells before she decides to do something drastic like marriage or having a baby Edit. to be clear, it's still his actions…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:34 PM
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Oh, so now the issue is also non-existent, well you outdid yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:30 PM
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basically "nuh-uh". Okay, i'm wrong and women health is studied and all is well, i assume if i'll try to pressure you on any of your nitpicked topic you'll do the same "nuh-uh". So i'm wrong. Then why women don't want kids, enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:12 PM
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Okay, yes, it's big picture. Pregnancy - women screwed. Dosage of any drug - women screwed. Diagnosis - women screwed Funding on health studies in general? about 1/8 of men's issues i think, if i remember correctly, and it also might be a joke, because i remember that study about endometriosis "are women with endo more attractive to men compared to healthy". But it's boring, because you don't see or pretend not to about what you actually did. And then looking at the big picture means argument in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:38 PM
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Recently there was a post where a guy threw pity party because his ex let her abuser used her as a sex doll and didn't let do the same for this guy. What was interesting to me is how many men couldn't comprehend that this woman didn't enjoy that and didn't want repetition of bad experience. They simply called it kinky, and the fact that she didn't allow next guy kinky relationship that she did enjoy was because she was evil apparently. When i read threads like that and this one it's just obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:36 PM
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I still stand by that, and one example doesn't tramples my 100. If you don't want to be seen as nitpicking for the sake of arguing even if you're wrong, then look at the big picture and don't try to maliciously manipulate data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:25 PM
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So basically you nitpicked my argument (in a stupid way to be honest because how breast cancer is connected to pregnancy, and erases other issues i don't know, it's just malicious misrepresentation of data), you did it in a way to make me sound wrong, but when pressed you started to pretend you didn't mean it that way. Yeah, maybe that "plausible deniability" would work on someone, not on me, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:11 PM
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"Why is it okay if men give each other these strategies as advice but when we are talking about how these strategies are removing consent from women it is bad? Why are the alpha bros that spout this kind of shit on their podcasts glorified and they make a lot of money of it but when it is viewed through the lens of the victims of these strategies men are suddenly absolutely outraged how it is portrayed? This is such a hypocrite pearl clutching." Because that means that men who do that have to ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:51 AM
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See, you choose someone beneficial for you, meaning bigger boobs. Now equivalent of that for me is a man who puts effort. And then when i have another choice, there is also a man who puts effort. Why would i choose someone who offers me less?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:36 AM
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Alright, hear me out. It is possible to be 50/50 and have children. But that requires agreements beforehand. And it's not romantic. It's financial agreements between partners and creating financial security for both of them. It's really not romantic to sit and talk about "hey, you want kids, then i want to be paid for being pregnant and lets decide how we separate costs for doctor visits and birth, i want to be paid for looking after child, because if i won't we would've paid a nanny, so i'll ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:35 AM
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Alright, i'm wrong, women are totally studied and pregnant women have variety of drugs they can safely take if they are sick, women are rich all over the planet, the poor are only men, and there are no robots that are taking human's work. So what is the issue then? Seems like great world, only women for some reason lie about their issues, probably just spoiled, am i right. So why they don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 AM
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if you had a choice between two women, but one would also cook for you, wouldn't it make it the choice obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:21 AM
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I know. think about it this way. If that person is a man is enough, okay, so there are 4 billions to choose from. So a man sees it and says "hmm, i want to be chosen so i offer you also attention and make you feel liked", and she looks at him and why would she chose another man when this one offers her the same things and more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:31 AM
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Oh, fuck, i wanted to write about couple of sentences but no, too much. Have no idea who is going to read that, but hell, i needed to say all of this. Why is this an issue? Just think about it. Less than century ago there were 2 billions of us. only 2. Now 8.5? Who said that we need to maintain that number or that we need to increase it? Honestly it feels like those fake weird issues. I remember how when i was a kid there was a panic about "we're overpopulating a planet, we need to stop", not it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:26 AM
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Honestly, i liked sexting, but now i realized that ai is way better than men, and i'm satisfied and will probably never turn to men for sexting. At least ai knows women's anatomy and won't tell me "do you like to take my cock inside your clit"....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:47 AM
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the part where you described "woman's" life sounds like a horror story. Also i like how there is a women who supposedly enjoy strangers attention, but when you go to the male part suddenly women don't want to talk to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:45 AM
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yeah, when you stand on the other side of that "women get too much attention that it get into their head" you start to see all those men as crazy. "bb show pussy" supposed to get into my head? It's like saying that when homeless people ask for pennies it goes into men's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:43 AM
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Again, it wasn't valuable to begin with. It's not that i'm drowned in great attention so it's lost value. I'm drowned in shit, and it was never valuable. The good attention is still precious. It never lost value. Probably gained when i see how much shit is around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:28 AM
7

Exactly, selfish men, society is at risk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:25 AM
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What most of you are missing is that you think that men's attention is some sort of prize, and i mean that it's high quality. And it's not. That's the issue. Attention can be different, and not all of it is pleasant. High quality attention is still one of the most sought after thing, it's precious. But it's rare to come by. This OP implies that women already getting what they wanted so when a nice guy comes into her life there is no place for him anymore, it's a race everyone lost already. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:23 AM
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Hell no? If that's enough for you - then i have good news, there are many men interested in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:55 PM
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Sorry, nobody cares about men's tiers when economy falls!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:54 PM
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"This has always bothered me. It just reflects the truth. Female empowerment only seeks more power not justice. Western women have truly become insufferable imo" - how do you deal with the fact that this system was for centuries? Like why do you even blame feminists as if we implemented that? To answer your question, i have no position personally, it's complicated matter with obvious issues. One being human rights and personal right for his life. Another being protection of society, and if nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:53 PM
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Why not? Why should i be attracted to someone who is useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:45 PM
9

Don't care about what? Why do you care about what women want when you need to save society and economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:44 PM
8

Well what is your answer? I'm sure you're not attracted to ALL people, so what if you went to therapist with that issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:43 PM
10

Well if i experience spontaneous desire that is independent of what a man does or says then it's not towards that man. It's just i'm feeling horny. "And why is that?" - why extraversion is more attractive? Because it's connected to social skills, and guess what, social stills are important and more advanced ones give well advantage in communication. obvious, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:34 PM
21

and being extraverted is more attractive in general. So what confuses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:24 PM
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A man has to be present for a woman to choose him, what a novel idea. And what's the alternative? Him being on the other side of the world and she met him in her dream??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:19 PM
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"I don’t think he was necessarily better-looking, more interesting, or more compatible with her." - and that's just your opinion. You don't know what she thought about him. "the one who checks in, spends time with them, listens, and gradually becomes part of their everyday routine." - one: it shows that she likes him because she lets him be a part of her life. and two: well duh? it's one of the attractive qualities, it also shows that he was interested in her. People like people who enjoy them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:12 PM
9

Well because it's weird as fuck, but who cares about women's ick if you need to save the economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:06 PM
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Basically "nuh-uh, trust me bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:40 PM
-3

Well that's failing men. It's not failing those at the top of the scheme, but it is destructive for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:27 PM
11

Well sacrifice for economy. Don't be selfish! Fix society!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:00 PM
21

There is an easy fix. Women want to work, you want to save the economy - let women work and let men become homemakers. They should leave workforce and only allowed to work part time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:49 PM
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Okay, this is just outright weird. "Sex isnt the only thing I want” So how long are you willing to wait before having?" - food also isn't the only thing i want but that doesn't mean i will wait. Okay, food is necessity. Just having pleasant conversations isn't the only thing i need for relationship, but i'm not going to wait for that conversation for months. It's okay if someone will, but i'm not, and there is nothing wrong with that. "If someone wasn’t that good at first, would you be OK teachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:43 PM
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Then you're blind or decide to not call them red pillers for your comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:35 PM
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So far i see red pillers blaming women for: being too quick to fuck someone, not being quick enough to fuck them, not approaching, wanting to be paid for on a date, being shallow, not being shallow enough, lying....from the top of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:25 PM
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can i get a time schedule?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:15 PM
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And just a misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:11 PM
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I try to talk your language, but apparently damned if you do damned if you don't situation. When i try to say that sex is something that women should choose to do with people she enjoys men simply don't understand that there is this condition. So i try to say that it's a transaction, sex comes when woman gets what she wants, feeling liked, desired and whatever else she needs. That now is evil. Apparently any conditions to consent are evil, next thing you'll all tell me that women wanting to know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:59 PM
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Yeah, that's what i'm talking about. And a lot of red pill is simply feeding into that loser mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:57 PM
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Seems like many men don't enjoy the fall, whatever the fall supposed to mean. And they blame everyone for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:51 PM
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"The Red Pill is about learning all the negative & positive nature of women's behaviour and biology" - is it really? What do they do with it? they see some patterns and instead of looking for reasons and how they can use them, they chose the most venomous explanation for that patterns that portray women as some evil masterminds that want men to fail, and then just boil in their hate and self righteousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:45 PM
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Alright, i'll take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:43 PM
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I say "if they are to be trusted". But honestly? I've talked to some og redpillers even here, and they are different from others that i see. I also read oys on married red pill from time to time, and it's also different from what other red pill men do and say. I might disagree with values, but they have accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:38 PM
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Am i supposed to believe that? How many times have you heard "shut up man, your job is to fix my drawer and mown the lawn not talking, men are incapable of thinking"? What about "I don't care about men's personality, i just want to use them and dump them"? If you don't see how men hate women, then you have an issue in your perception of reality and dare i say you don't really talk to women and if you do, you're not close and not someone they can trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:37 PM
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Again, if og red pill was about how to become better, it decided to drop their own values to sell hate. Men before also came hateful, but if we trust og redpillers, they say that the rage phase wan't supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:33 PM
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Just curious, what makes misandrist serial?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:10 PM
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And yet many red pill men are. And then if we look at red pill influencers they are not really pillars of own your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:00 PM
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Yes, i understand all of that. And yet red pill fell victim to selling what is easy but destructive to everyone, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:52 PM
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I'm not sure i'm willing to blame parents here. I have no desire to protect them, but there are factors that are complicate situation. 1) right now the conditions for kids are not ideal with men basically lacking male models, and it's not even men's fault completely, before than there was a village, and it's easier to find men role models in the village instead of nuclear family where father is also spends his time working. 2) i've heard some mention of a study that actually parents are not as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:49 PM
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They should start with themselves, or it looks weird when some whiner tries to hold others accountable while blaming everyone else for his misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:42 PM
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Typical males. All who reacted were attacking me, but hide behind women. You all only support my opinion about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:26 PM
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And? The analogy was used to show that there are expectations that are not written yet everyone understand by behavior. It doesn't mean that every mechanic is exactly the same in friendship and in dating. But to be more accurate if you want to play in analogy would be you helping a friend and when you need help he simply stops being your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:11 PM
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You both making me cry...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:02 PM
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I'm sorry you feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:54 AM
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That would be one thing. Then they also refuse to put any effort into sex if it's just sex. And then most men as simply not pleasant especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:21 AM
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How is that weird? They don't have to get any sex to be entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:07 AM
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No, they were never the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:06 AM
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I think there just not enough women who are into hookup. Wonder why...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:06 AM
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women. Women engaging in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:50 AM
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I cannot decide for other people what they want. I'm not in a habit to give advice based on MY wants and not another persons. So it's stupid to ask me what would i advise if i don't know what men even want to do with that. If they just want to go on then my advise would be to go on like that. If they want to change then it's a different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:44 AM
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ah, yes, undersood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:36 AM
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Sorry what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:29 AM
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"It is still seen as a pure negative, and the simple proof of that is that it is not considered a privilege, while women have significantly better chances at this than men to this day." - wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:27 AM
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"If he directly promised something, you have a case. If she assumed he would, it's a bit more murky." - we're not in court. Human's relationship doesn't work like that and everyone knows it. When you become friends with someone you don't draft the contract with outlining of your intentions and help obligations, and yet everyone knows it and expects it because of how you behave. Can men change their mind - sure. But as i've said here to someone else, lets not play dumb and pretend that men don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:24 AM
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Bad interactions with men don't have to come from someone women choose either, never stops the guys to tell to "choose better" or "it your fault for attracting such men"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:08 AM
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I seem to think that consent depends on many conditions, such as knowing intentions. Simply ask a question - if you were to tell the truth about how you feel would you get sex? if you have doubts or you know that the answer is "no" then what are you arguing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:06 AM
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Yes, sex is a thing you give in exchange for things. Things being - "you like me", "you make me feel desired", "you make me feel hot", "i like you"...etc. They are individual. So expecting sex from a stranger who doesn't like you and who you don't like is entitlement. Expecting sex from a woman simply because you find her hot is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:49 AM
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Then you'd understand my parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:42 AM
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I don't understand why men are scared of false accusations? Can they just not choose those women? Choose better, you're responsible for your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:40 AM
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It's not hookup. Hookup is honest. This is exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:38 AM
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They never do. But when you dare to tell men that they don't care about rape, they clutch their pearls and act shocked about how dare you suspect this about them, they want to punish rapists. Probably next time, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:38 AM
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On contrary, it's entitlement to expect sex without anything in return no matter your treatment of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:36 AM
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"Why is consent such a difficult topic around here?" - because then they have to look at their questionable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:29 AM
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If you mean they aren't horny dogs who see men's forearm and try to jump him and then blame him for their lack of control then yeah, women aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:27 AM
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Men on this sub basically everyday: "Haha, he just pump and dump, what did you expect, all men want that, haha, of course he told her what she wanted to hear, all women demand a man being a jester and entertain her to get sex, men only want sex..... " Men when women say that they didn't agree to this: "We? we never wanted this. What if man just honest but changes his mind later? why did you assume that he had any intentions to use her for sex?" Is this weaponized idiocy or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:03 AM
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Because men are soo responsible, there are crowd of responsible men who absolutely don't blame women for any of their actions.../s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:58 AM
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I don't know about punishment. But i'm still calling out the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:48 AM
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Again, i told about consent under false premises, don't switch the subject. You know exactly what i'm talking about. This is ridiculous and insulting to be honest. Men can't shut up about how many men "pump and dump" but as soon as women say something about that, you make a surprise pikachu face and pretend you're completely innocent and that never happens and how dare i imply that men can be dishonest. fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:47 AM
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Seems like you don't understand the topic of conversations, and i have no idea about personally you and what you do to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:36 AM
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Oh please, this is argument ad absurdum and this ignores reality that men and women know that men pretend and lie to get sex. And men fight for that "right" to lie because they won't get sex otherwise - which is in indicator that there is no clear consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:32 AM
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Again, if they agreed under false pretences then they didn't enjoy it with you, they had sex with a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:31 AM
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Oh please, don't pretend we all don't know that men lie and pretend to get sex. It's common knowledge and pretend that it's not so is just insulting everyone's intelligence including your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:30 AM
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Women feel used when they were used for sex. Because they didn't just agreed to sex, they thought they guy was into them. So the guy lied and pretended to be into them, and wasn't honest and that's hot he got consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:04 AM
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Where am i wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:59 AM
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You think men should lie to get sex under false pretence? Would you like a seller to lie to you to get your money because he really wanted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:58 AM
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Consent acquired under false premises isn't a consent. So if a man pretended to be someone interested in relationship and got sex in this conditions because of this lie - that wasn't consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:33 AM
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No? But i can't control men now, can i?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:32 AM
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Ahaha, that's funny, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:37 AM
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Your stats are different? did you grind your flirt and charisma?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:29 AM
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My opinion hasn't changed, i knew pretty much the situation for men already. All i learn here is what in men's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:59 AM
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Women in general don't complain about lack of agency
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:05 AM
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No, because advice should come for people who want to change something, I don't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:03 AM
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And then men tell that they are desperate and it's hard...pff
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:41 PM
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I have enough, I don't have issues with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:40 PM
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I don't buy that this is what was meant in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:17 PM
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I don't buy it, that "women should approach only men they like", i feel like it's backtracking. The first part of op is totally about cold approach, so i assume it's all about cold approach, and women have been telling men a lot that they need to know a man to develop attraction. So it's either backtracking, or delusion to imagine that women are so interested in strangers, they just hold themselves back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:35 PM
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Do you think women don't do that already? Women either do, when they like the guy, or they want to be approached, and if a guy doesn't she isn't interested, it's her compatibility test. So i don't see how that will change anything. Men are way way more interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:29 PM
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But to pay for that they have to approach men they have no interest in? How is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:22 PM
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Great in whose opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:14 PM
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"locking down commitment" doesn't mean much on itself. Commitment from who and on what conditions. And looks here again come at play. Because commitment by itself isn't some kind of prize. I can get the local homeless alcoholic commit to me easy peasy. Is it worth something to me? No, it's net negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:08 PM
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They already do. Others they are not interested in, and are just willing to give a chance in a man in convincing. And there are women who want to be approached regardless because of their cultural norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:04 PM
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But to pay for that they have to approach men they have no interest in? How is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:44 PM
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I'm not making a point that this behavior is wrong, you are correct. I'm just saying that OP was under illusion that men want sex, and i said that it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:33 PM
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I don't describe women for two reasons. They are not the topic of conversation, and i don't fuck them, and unlike men i don't pretend to know how it is to fuck a gender i don't fuck. So your accusation is miles off. But that's okay, men rarely can handle any unflattering truth, and as i've said this thing they are not willing admit, nothing surprising here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:27 PM
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I just love how men think that "women do it too" is a form of disagreement. Lets assume you're right. So what? How does that change my statement? It didn't. So you just want to pull attention from men in attempt to make them look good and shiny. You said "women do it too" so you agree that men do it. So my statement is right, and then you just can't handle the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:15 PM
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Do they get pilloried by me? No, then i have nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:08 PM
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Often women just sent "hi", how that changed your pace?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:52 PM
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Honestly it was stupid move. We already matched, why does he needs to wait until i initiate conversation, me matching is already consent. I feel like the idea of women approaching first and dating apps not really compatible because of mechanics of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:44 PM
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I see that men benefit from women approaching, how women benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:25 PM
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that's questionable. Also not really that easy to say about even one woman. I'm kinder to some men, and i'm angrier to some compared to younger me, that's what experience does. So am i kinder now or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:20 PM
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Then orgasm gap is a fiction lol, none of the actors cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:06 PM
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There are too many assumptions about me to actually answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:11 PM
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Define negative? Because the way i see it - it's negative in the meaning that i don't like it, but it might be neutral when i don't evaluate for dating. Examples are: 1) i don't want to date a man who is from different cultural background (for example). I think it will just lead to many frictions and miscommunications and issues when out cultures will clash. Not to mention language barrier that will probably also add to issues. But that doesn't mean i see all people with different cultural backg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:08 AM
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Cool? Good for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:43 AM
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This is idiotic. Now say the same things about sailors. Say the same things about mothers. Say the same thing about lizards. That's how ridiculous that sounds. Every situation, generalized it might be calls for different conclusions and reactions. But it was obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:45 AM
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I'm sorry you don't understand my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:43 AM
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You can imagine whatever allegory you want, it doesn't make it prettier, not makes any sense to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:40 AM
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Why do some men think they know how other men fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:23 AM
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I'm laughing that you think you got me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:02 AM
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I like how the most stupid men think that they are logical because men are logical. When stupid people don't have skills but they want to feel superior they always go for generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:36 AM
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The risk of autism in kinds is heavily associated with father's age, and scientists recommend him to be no older than 30. Seems like men have the wall now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:06 AM
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a lot of text to say that women should compromise on looks, and my question is why should they? Men treat it like all women have to choose a man, but they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:11 AM
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You did answer questions in my OP. You didn't answer hypothetical i asked you. why are you so angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:35 PM
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No, you didn't, but we can stop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:24 PM
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This is everything but answer to my question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:55 PM
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And yet filtering it's pretty active process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:52 PM
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Women don't approach because they don't have to, unless they are really interested, as you've mentioned, and don't want to wait or risk losing a chance. Men have to approach in modern reality because they can't just create a dating app profile and get so many matches that all they have to do is vet. This is simply reality right now, and that's why people give different advice to men and women. Women are waiting for the one they like. Their issue isn't lack of male attention, it's lack of men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:51 PM
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"Again, you are confidently making claims without evidence." - experience is evidence. You're the one arguing without any data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:08 PM
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Then why are you measuring by financial contribution and not working hours? Would it be fair if you could work 2 hours a day and bring twice as much as her for 8 hour shift and for her to do chores since you brought more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:07 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:06 PM
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1) because people are often not self aware 2) you don't see them actually with women (unless you are in a group outing in which everyone puts up a front). But you know what? I find it pointless to argue with a guy who thinks that if he has a penis he know how every man behaves in dating, how that looks like from outside his own head etc. Men are wonderful, you know everything, all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:34 PM
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Do you expect her to work also?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:31 PM
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"willing to pull her weight," - what do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:29 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:29 PM
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your gender likes to pretend that they are logical, well lets use logic. When did she imply that men are capable of making women do everything they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:28 PM
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Totally valid response. I know that "what do you bring to the table" is usually transactional, but i do think that people who value different things would understand that those are also on a table.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:22 PM
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They sell the sex men want with fantasy they actually want. Men don't pay for their 5 minutes of sex, they pay for girlfriend experience, or feeling desired or whatever else this sex worker sells. Why are you so confident? Did you even talked to sex workers? Ir you just see "sex" and think that you know everything? yeah, when you open a conversation with "why do you think you know more than an actual man" i find it hard to believe. Anyway, i see my questions didn't saw any doubt in your mind, i'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:18 PM
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Of course, but from their perspective they will see what women bring to the table from the point of what they value. then they also might not see many things that they value but think are default.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:07 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:06 PM
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Sex workers sell fantasy that men want. Now your turn, why do you think you know more about men in sex in dating than i do? Why do you think that simply being a man trumps everything i know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:57 PM
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Do what you want, i'm just saying that it's weird when you have your circumstances and she has hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:48 PM
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Nah, it's not like that. Just like for those women it's not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:47 PM
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Even if it's 20 it's bigger observation pool than yours of another straight man's. You don't know how men behave in dating in sex. You know what they say. You know what they and you like to think. You don't know more than you know. and that is apparently really hard pill to swallow. somehow i have to have more than a 1000 men experience and my observations are still don't count, but men can just imagine something, and he is all good. Misogyny or stupidity? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:28 PM
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Good luck with that, and this is simply not reality. Because i'm a woman, and when i say i want to have sex, my issue is to vet all men who are interested. Yours is to find a woman who will be interested. the circumstances are not equal, so doing equal effort is simply weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:25 PM
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They would fuck differently. They would talk about it differently. If you actually want to understand, imagine a woman, who doesn't want to have sex, but does it to keep a man and get benefits from him. Can you imagine a woman like that, not the whole gender, just one. You'd see that, right? At least eventually. So you'll know there is a difference in how people fuck when they want to fuck, and when they want something else they can get through fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:07 PM
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that is as vague as it could be. Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:51 PM
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Which part of question did you answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:33 PM
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And what do they bring already?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:25 PM
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No, again, you're theorizing based on what men tell. I tell you based on what i saw, and what other women saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:25 PM
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this is answer to which part of the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:14 PM
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Oh, haha, it's rare to see a post on this level. Thanks for the entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:05 PM
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Did you notice that you continue to repeat "always thinking of themselves" like that's separate argument with each repetition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:53 PM
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Well do you have experience dating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:51 PM
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Oh, so it wasn't honest question, it was "know your place woman" question. Well pleasure to meet you. How many men have you dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:44 PM
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How am i supposed to answer your question? Name all of them or something? Think you'll know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:38 PM
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Where did you see hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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It's different when you cook for yourself and when you cook for even two people, let alone family. When it's only me i just see what i want to eat, if i'm too lazy i don't bother and either eat something simple or go for takeout, it's pretty relaxed. Cooking rarely this complicated of a chore. But i was in relationship when we decided to cook together. We switched weeks so it was equal. But still, it's completely different. I had to account for another person's wishes and mine too, and it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:37 PM
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That's not "men fuck uggos".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:19 PM
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"The self-centredness of many women" - why shouldn't they be? Serious question. Who else will care of their interests if not them? "Many men have also realised that catering to this self-centeredness in women helps them get dates and to get laid," - so to get something from someone you must do what they like? what a novel idea. "This self-centeredness and narcissism also makes it so that these women end up only interested in having vapid and inane conversations with no real substance, and no int…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:18 PM
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Sorry, simply no. They don't care about sex, many don't enjoy sex, many see it as a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:57 PM
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So that comment is basically everyone who isn't hot is uggo. Well that tramples all "men attracted to majority of women" myth. I was under the impression that average is average, and uggo is below, but well, thanks for correcting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:49 PM
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"How does you being a “slut” make you an expert on men and male behavior?" - experience. "You’re claiming to know more about the male experience and psychology than the actual man you are responding to." - yep. because again, experience. "A man would never get away with this if the roles were reversed." - dunno, don't care. "There would be no aura of credibility in the eyes of a woman if a man were to insist his arguments have merit because he’s slept with tons of women." - dunno, don't care. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:48 PM
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"Having sex with uggos does not lower a man's status compared to having no sex, where are you getting this idea from?" - easy. It's like imagining a teen being a friend with some kid who is bullied, or being alone. Alone - nobody cares about him. Being friends with outcast - decrease in status. I imagine it's the same everywhere. Like imagine fraternity and there are two men. And one will tell that i don't get sex for now, i'm busy/not in the mood/whatever excuse, and another will tell that he g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:46 PM
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He imagined that - he should explain. I don't see how i would end up in that situation in the first place. Which i did say the first time. If you think that i will end up in that situation - then burden of proof is on you (and now i will watch you ignore that and either disappear or make another ridiculous comment about how i'm wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:32 PM
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Oh no, i'm comparing it to getting 0 sex. The logic isn't what you've said. The logic is either he can get average/hot woman, or he can imagine that he can. Going for uggos destroys that illusion. Illusion worth more than whatever sex with uggos bring. And maybe it will bring decrease in status. "but yes I would say men in general put plenty of effort, you just don't notice how much that men do is simply due to their desire for women." - mhm. if that's true, then the issue is that they are exhau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:23 PM
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So women are allowed only moral standards? No looks? No anything else? Only judge character? Can you give me a list of what i'm allowed to think about when i choose a man i will fuck and live with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:20 PM
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While i do think that if people in general had more sex they would be happier and less neurotic, it's not really realistic due to socialization and whatnot. And i do see your argument about scarcity mindset. There is one issue tho, and this is a piece of truth many men don't realize and will never admit. Men don't have sex to have sex. If they did, that would be a solution (somewhat, because there is still attraction at play). Men have sex to have status among men, and this status will be provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:08 PM
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"why don't Red Pill influencers spend more time asking why so many of their followers aren't attracted to women who are also routinely excluded from conventional dating standards?" Oh, i know, i know! Because they don't admit their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:22 PM
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They exist, yes. They fall under taken:)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:58 AM
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"It does, especially for someone who takes vetting seriously, doesnt want their judgement clouded, if she’s strictly looking for something long term, etc." - no it doesn't. Because no matter what there should be some interests, and that interest should be of romantic and sexual character. It doesn't matter if they will not act on it, if it's small and will build overtime. It's okay. But it should be there. And if it's not, it's simply two friends chat or two people negotiate relationship. "For a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:43 AM
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For example men complaining that they have to approach and that women should instead. That's not looks. And that's the standard many women put in a place for a reason. For example women not wanting to have sex early in a relationship. Don't tell me you didn't see men ridiculing that and pressuring women to change. That's also not looks nor superficial. Men paying for a date. Also not looks. Then for example when i told that i want my life to be better with a man that without, i got many outraged…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:40 AM
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women socialized differently and their antisocialness displayed differenty. men and women want different things from each other. she is hot and "get a man" means he is willing to use her body for his pleasure, which is hooray, such a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:21 AM
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"Okay but not everyone goes into a first date with the intention of getting fucked at the end of it." - that doesn't matter. You still need to appear sexy, appear interesting in something more than just chatting like with a colleague. "Spark doesnt have to automatically mean sexual tension. Also, Im talking about the “He cant hold a conversation” type of problems. " - it kind of does. along with romantic too. and that needs to be created. And yes, i agree there are men who can't hold a conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:19 AM
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I disagree. I met guys who were nice to talk with, but there wouldn't be anything with them if i wasn't already horny and got on a date with them with intention to get sex. They didn't disqualified themselves, they just didn't qualified themselves either. Guy who date need to actually appear sexy, flirt and create sexual tension, those are all separate skills. Without that it's easy to be discarded with "there is no spark" comment. Now, sometimes it's just natural and you have a chemistry with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:04 AM
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I wish. I feel like everything women want is simply wrong in men's opinion, because every standard will discard someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:59 AM
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They are just as shitty with less qualities to compensate for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:57 AM
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Male loneliness epidemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:14 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:06 AM
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No, it's not "obvious" because men use "looks" as an excuse more often than not. But tell me you didn't hear about men being bitter for needing to be nice, or "banding over backwards" or anything like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:02 AM
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No, not "obviously". And they don't know how many of them are abusive pieces of shit as you've put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:52 AM
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Then 1) you don't understand my point 2) i explained exactly how men hate women for humanity 3) you decided to argue about something you don't understand by telling that women do it too? 4) you don't even have any confirmation that women do it too, you just assumed??? 5) and based on this you told me that i'm wrong in making generalization. Cool, all i can say that this level of self-confidence is outstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:48 AM
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This post is so ignorant that i have conflicted emotions. It's like a farmer will come to a slave and say "well, i'm paid for my work, it's the norm, do you really think the standards are different for you"...And i mean i get it, you lived your whole life in the norm of being paid for the work, and people you are close to also get paid, and if someone doesn't it's usually wither fixed by law or he screwed up, so it's not crossing his mind that it might be different. The standards are the same. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:42 AM
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1) assuming based on what 2) how does that change men's behavior 3) do you see my points at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:28 AM
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I remember a joke i've read years ago: If you see a woman walking with her head hanging low - she probably has a lover.... If you see a woman walking with hear head high - she has a lover! If you see a woman having a head - she has a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:28 AM
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So you're not arguing, you're just saying "women too"??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:15 AM
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What are you replying to? Like how is that relevant to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:04 AM
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Men: Well why do you date that man, it's obvious he's abusive Men: Well, choose better, it's obvious this guy has some issues Men: Just don't date shitty men Also men:...... Why women stopped dating average guys??? LOWER YOUR STANDARDS!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:02 AM
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well the process has started...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:00 AM
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"I’m not addressing your post," - and i didn't come to your house to chat about your opinions, i came to debate the thoughts i'm having. And by the rules of this sub the replies should address the post. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:54 AM
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All i see is that you fail to understand my point. Men want humanity, yet when they see it they are the angriest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:11 AM
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Oh, right, so you do see some points and not a question "is dating a competition", good, i was starting to worry. Let me know if you'll want to actually address my post. But as i've said, if you need to cover basics - you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:43 AM
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If you want to argue about my points - argue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:42 AM
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Typical male. So you decided to play weaponized amnesia and when it didn't work you decided to attack my points as something dumb. So you did remember them. Did you not see how that looks? I swear i saw 6yo have better defense than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:41 AM
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"I’ll just say this: Women have a much stronger in-group bias than men, which means women are less likely to go against the grain, and unwilling to challenge their fellow women, especially if those women are bigots." - and saying how men behave i tend to think that people think this way only because they didn't look at men in the right angle and are blinded by their biases. Anyway, is there something relevant to my post, or you simply wanted to say women are bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:35 AM
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No, my point is apparently too advanced. If it is meritocracy, then their effort should already have been rewarded, and it isn't. The fact that there might need some other effort to give it a push is irrelevant. But you men argue that if a man has to put ANY effort means that it's meritocracy, conveniently forgetting the premise that it's already have been done and there is no reward. Your venom is noted tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:32 AM
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Oh yeah,and the guy's fantasy completely makes sense, sure, it's me who points out the inconsistency is wrong. Well if you ever wonder why I barely reply to you, this is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:37 AM
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I didn't sign up on lecture about what dating is. I came to debate certain aspect. But if you need to cover basic topics before going into details by all means do that, come to advanced topics later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:36 PM
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I don't know, it's another's dude fantasy, he should explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:34 PM
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Seems like I don't like him then, so the premise is false
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:38 PM
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no, they are working, I'm not with a man who I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:37 PM
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why should I consider anyone? They don't fit my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:16 PM
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Sounds like you don't offer enough sugar to be honest. But what do i know, i'm not experienced at all in sugar dating. And i don't consider you reliable narrator to take your opinion at face value and make a conclusion based on your observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:50 PM
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I didn't agree to this. I want who i want, and i'm not going to take a man for the sole reason to take a man, if that makes my life worse than without him. So no, your "fairness" can go fuck itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:48 PM
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Playing dumb isn't cute. If you need a reminder my post is written and you can reread it as many times as you need to, I'm not entertaining weaponized amnesia
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:05 PM
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Maybe he would be happy because he enjoys her and sex with her. But for that he has to actually sto thinking about her as a prize to have, now soiled
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:01 PM
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Well, yeah. Only I call it men can't find slaves anymore, and you call it men have to bend over backwards. Still, they hate women for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:00 PM
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1) so men are not responsible for their actions if they react? 2) what is blue pill in your definition and when did it start?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:59 PM
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They might've been sometime, but men don't use it the way you said, or small minority does. Anyway, in your definition it's understandable, and yes, it exists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:35 PM
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If you have actually good arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:33 PM
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It's on a spectrum. Are you saying that women can never tell insecurity or hate? Hell, I've kissed a guy who was shaking nervously, I don't have to be mind-reader to feel that, and guess what, it's turn off. What's wrong with me saying that I se insecure men? Oh man. That depends. Did his income change. Did his priorities changed. Does he show me that he likes me in every other way. What changed that he doesn't spend money in that pattern. You act like the only explanation is that he doesn't lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:32 PM
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Then why their effort is not rewarded? The already did so much. N meritocracy it would be rewarded
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:24 PM
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Did you disagree with something or you just wanted to provide context and reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:22 PM
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Famous men's accountability. Women are acting as sentient beings but men have no control, they can only read, and they have no control over how. But men buit the world, men are leaders, men are logical....so funny you don't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:19 PM
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Again, do men say those things or not? If yes, then where is accountability. If not then it's a blatant lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:18 PM
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I don't know, whatever they want, who am i to tell them what to do. Maybe they like being like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:10 PM
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"Men are far more socialized than women are. Man are taught how to treat women, but women are not taught how to treat men. That is why men tend to be better partners: not because we're biologically better or anything ridiculous like that, but because we've been socialized to treat our partners better. "- I'm sorry, but i think my eyebrows reached the moon while i read that. Yeah, yeah, men are so great and that's why women starting to choose to be single en masse. That's why when women divorce t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:09 PM
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Because my post is about things that MEN say, you should read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:57 PM
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So men don't say all of those things i mentioned? They don't choose the most hateful interpretations of women's actions? Well, famous men's accountability, what can i say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:56 PM
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So men don't say all those things i mentioned in my post? When was the last time you was in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:56 PM
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Women are better at reading humans (in general they have higher EQ), and women are better at risk assessment. And men suck at listening to women, so i think that the whole "women intuition" thing was just a thing to make men listen at least sometimes. Can't really blame them, i would use a shaman dance if my life depended on ignorant baboon who thinks that i'm no smarter than a cow. Anyway, "if only women did X, Y, Z" isn't really responsibility for men's lack of socialization and hatefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:55 PM
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and how does it change my point? I love that defense. First it's women don't need experience to learn. Then it's obvious. Then it's men learn too, but you don't like it. And the most funny thing you don't see yourself doing it. "there wasn't anything, and if there was it's already gone, and you also brought it here so it's there because of you". lawyer. Again, do you think that a woman who dates lawyer wouldn't mind dating a criminal? she doesn't have any other criteria except looks (since you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:48 PM
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And that's your justification for hate? Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:43 PM
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"You don't need "intuition" to know that the safe boring nice guy is going to have a lower likelihood or abuse and cheating." - not really. They have the same likelihood. "Too often women choose to go for the bad boy instead and shock pikachu they get abused or cheated on" - how dare women assume that men will be decent. i know, right, ridiculous idea. Especially if he has options. "If ride a motorbike 2x speed limit and die in an accident, thank god someone more worthy can finally get an organ …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:37 PM
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Yes, sometimes the woman is oblivious, how does that change my point? Do you think that men wear labels about what they want and who they are? It takes experience to learn when you're lied to, who is that hot guy who doesn't want to commit, that there are ugly guys that oh shocker, also don't want to commit, etc. It's easy to play expert when you're not the one who has to live it. It's like me telling a medic that just find a tumor, and you need to study it, tale as old as time, it's obvious, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:31 PM
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I don't know about meetups, but try, i don't think it'll hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:20 PM
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Nah, diamonds are just marketing company, genius since it stuck for that long. There are more expensive stones i guess, or so i've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:15 PM
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There are some online communities too, and people can start just chatting about hobbies and it can evolve into feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:13 PM
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Yeah. Ironically they put women on this pedestal of moral paragons, and at the same time they claim that "men are logical", "men are rational", "women are emotional", "women are hysterical"....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:12 PM
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"that's blue pills fault" - men and their famous accountability. But okay. Why do you think that? More importantly when do you think blue pill started? I don't think it was for example 100 years ago, do you? Like when this hate became responsibility of blue pill, and what is blue pill in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:07 PM
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Honestly, so many men i talk to are incapable of thinking deeper than in black and white. To not take anything literally, to see some complexity. Weirdly enough i don't see it that much in women. Granted, i don't date them, maybe it's also like that and i'm just biased because i talk to someone my level, but fuck it's scary to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:05 PM
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True, women are status symbol. Did you know, that when men's fashion revolution happened and they started to wear their monotone suits, rich still had to show that they are rich, and for that service they either paraded their wives in expensive jewelry, or their mistresses/escorts. Some escort's job was to blow money so much, to show the wealth of her patron. and as always, thank you for your awards:)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:03 PM
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I disagree with your comment almost completely, but i don't want to argue about that. We just see the world differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:55 PM
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So any effort men have to put means that there is meritocracy? So their hobbies and whatnot, all that effort doesn't count and it's still meritocracy? Fine. If you want to fight for the view that it's not meritocracy unless men can lay lazy on their asses, i say that i can see some issues, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:53 PM
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"Is it not simpler to assume men and women know less about what they truly want and more about what they believe they should want?" - okay, i can get on board with that. "And that the disparity between the two is what causes most of the issues?" - eh, yes and no. There are some issues because of disconnect, but i believe it's way more than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:51 PM
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"is it realy weird to see their desire as a reward? " - yes. Sometimes it's obvious that personality is the issue. Women are not blind. Women are not mind readers, but they are also not blind. Which i guess is a hard concept for men. Mhm. Would you listen to your grandpa about how to apply to a job? Aren't you also the one who told that this sub is filled with older people who don't know how dating works? and not "listen to older women"?? But to answer that comment i do. I listen to them, and i …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:49 PM
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Then a guy isn't the smartest, and well, survival of the fittest and all. That increases his chances, just as red pill advice about gym and style increases his chances, but thinking that this is all that it takes is simply means that he isn't the brightest light in the bulb. I didn't say something wrong with them. I said that there is something wrong. Could be anything. Because if they are great and can't get dates then something IS wrong, and it might be fixable. But to know what is wrong peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:40 PM
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It's usually the reply when women say that this guy is likely struggles because he is misogynist. And you know what? Sometimes it's obvious. Men like to reply that women don't care because they date some misogynists. Well those are more charming and less blatantly hateful. There are nuances. Men like to act that i can either see ALL misogyny or NONE at all, and that's not really true. I don't need to be phd to know that a man who on a first date will say something like "women should just stay in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:36 PM
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I made my post based on what i see from men. So even IF women tell that, men are still bitter and hateful and don't see women as people. But also women don't tell that, women don't tell that they see a bad person with 100% guarantee. It changes. I know, because it changed for me. Simply after i observed some behavior i felt like a switch going in my head and attraction changed to repulsion. And that happens more than men present. Anyway, they chose the most hateful interpretation of observed pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:30 PM
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You should move it under automod, or mods will delete it. But yeah, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:27 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:26 PM
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"Women want to advise men to be a good person, be themselves, have their hobbies, practice basic hygiene, have female friends. " - those are not really bad things, they are generic advice for strangers. "people don’t want to admit that a guy can be single for a long time with hobbies, friends, fitness, hygiene, and generally good character." - also true, but kind of rare. And to give advice to him people need to know what's wrong in his case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:22 PM
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Yes, there are other factors, i notice that too. Like inability to understand that there could be multiple factors to determine attraction. Or that people will not give ready and honest answers about their attraction and desires and sometimes simply because they lack self awareness. Some people see everything in black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:16 PM
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As european i want to argue that it's not okay that americans don't work. My source? Friends tv series. They spend all the time in coffe house. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:23 PM
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You really argue that media is accurate representative of modern dating? "Did I make a comment about Western culture as a whole, or did I simply say that this particular dating culture originated in modern Western media," - you did made a comment about western dating or an aspect of it. this level of defense is simply stupid and boring. If i wanted to have a conversation with gaslighting i would get a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:03 PM
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Still doesn't explain why did you decide to argue about western dating? It's like me coming to india subreddits and arguing there about your life, politics, dating and whatnot (and i was never in India). For the mods, it's not about race, it's about experience and culture. People who don't have cultural context and experience can't really argue about things within this culture and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:48 PM
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Easy. Asking someone's out is inviting them on a date. Your long time friend can do that. Your colleague can do it. Stranger can do it. Cold approach is when a stranger tries to meet you with romantic/sexual intentions. To be clear cold approach means that it's obvious and straightforward, not someone who meets you and then becomes friends and only then invites you. Cold approach is when a guy approaches i don't know, on a street, in the bar, in the gym, asks for number and invites on a date. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:46 PM
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Yes, but it doesn't mean necessarily cold approach. and your post is about them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:39 PM
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Why do many indians feel the need to debate about western dating....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:35 PM
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I think you just don't understand what "asking someone out" means. "do people usually ask out someone from the sex they aren't sexually attracted to (the same sex for most heterosexual people or the opposite sex for most homosexual people)?" - What??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:33 PM
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"My point is that modern society manosphere often treats asking someone out as the default, or even the only, way to express confidence and pursue romance." - fixed that for you. No, really, women can't stop telling you all that cold approaches are not pleasant nor effective, that you should build some rapport to initiate some romance. I have no idea how many times i've seen men here arguing with that as if women take away their favorite toy. Which baffles me because they are no effective, nor e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:25 PM
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One quarter of that post, who will look at other data that tumbles that first quarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:16 PM
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or i can find another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:00 PM
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Well yeah and no. Men call them alphas because they get what men want, so to them they are. But even so, some men are just average, there are those who are pathetic, and there are those who still meet requirements but simply don't want to be in relationships, and they kind of stand out because they seem great for relationship but they are also extra charming etc, that makes them successful for hookups. For the purpose of this discussion we can call them alphas, tho i dislike that word. That depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:56 AM
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"I'm starting to think that western men have been psy-oped to think that crying is unmasculine." - yes. the ideas about masculinity changed overtime. Just like femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:43 AM
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"Really curious about that glow up." - i have no idea how to tell you more except i worked on my social skills, understanding of men, safety measures so could relax, and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:58 AM
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"That’s a fair possibility but women who say this really just..." - so is it a possibility women should account for or not? "Most of the time the guy will be even angrier you lied to him" - sure, but that will be in some distance from me. "Obviously being violent about rejection is never ok, but if you purposely lead on guys if you’re afraid of rejecting him, most of the time you will just be a cunt to an unassuming guy, not actually protecting yourself." - i'll take my safety over some guy's fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:48 AM
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That wasn't the reaction you had when you kissed me...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:15 AM
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Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:41 AM
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Oh cmon, not everyone who kisses me is my boyfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:28 AM
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"when you find most women attractive you can focus on other things." - exactly. Men's lack of standards it totally their fault. Or their lies. I think the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:40 AM
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After all we had you thought.....you thought that i might like you???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:25 AM
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I'm so tired of men who probably never talked to women think that women just have to exist and all will fall on their lap. I had a glow up, only my glow up wasn't about looks, it was about behavior, but men constantly tell me that behavior doesn't matter. Yet i saw it as day and night, when i had the same looks and was barely noticeable, and when i had the same looks and could wrap men around my fingers. And it took effort to change myself like that. Then i'm so tired of men ignoring that if a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:23 AM
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Well if personalities don't matter then how do you explain that i turned off by almost all men here without knowing how they look?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:10 AM
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He just isn't healthy (>6')
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:28 AM
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Hooray, they are just not willing to put the effort into talking with her. Who are you trying to fool? Using someone as a Fleshlight isn't "attraction", not where it counts. The same way I will say that women still talked to average men, they were still willing to date them. But that won't work for you, right? That argument is supposed to only excuse men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:17 AM
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Yeah, yeah, women lie, men telling the truth (for your money), men know better....heard that before. Hear me out (or not), all people lie. Men and women. And yes, those well-meaning men also lie about women. You have to have some socialization to sort through all information and observations, but as i've just said....men present themselves as autistic enough to miss everything, and that's not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:36 PM
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Easy, asian. Because there are more asian women, and they will be into asian men because people are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:32 PM
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Seems like men have to be socialized more. It's basically "we're autistic enough that we fail to see social cues and notice patterns on our own so accommodate us". No? Believe it or not that skill is important, so survival of the fittest, and in that case socially adapted people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:26 PM
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"but in my opinion, a decent person will communicate their intentions." - so she wasn't decent too? Or is it only relevant if you want casual?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:28 PM
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Oh yes. Sometimes they tell me about what they fantasized about and i can enjoy it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:51 PM
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It might not be the case for OP's gym, but also there is a question about demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:50 PM
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OP didn't say that they didn't help, they just formed an opinion about who asks for help often and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:30 PM
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Can it be cause there are less women in general? Can it also be because of what demographic uses gyms? Like for example men could come because of manosphere influence, and women come who i don't know, need some movement because they spend all day at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:29 PM
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I read about how lived native americans (well at least some, they have variety of tribes), and for example a man hunts, yes. Honorable, and gets food. But a woman carries a kill, a woman works on a skin. A woman cooks. Men did something else too, i don't remember, but i was kind of shocked to read about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:39 PM
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Ha, feeding and clothing. How about working too, because men and women were servants for the rich. They both were peasants, and worked in the field, only men didn't do it after birth and beating. Men might did more construction, but women created fabric, clothes and foods like cheese for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:29 PM
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"A SAHM is well compensated for her role, she is given free housing, free healthcare, free food etc etc etc. It's not unpaid labour." - you can't hire a nanny with that conditions, let alone housekeeper, nanny, cook etc. Sooo, that's not really paid labor too. "It's the physical labour that should be outsourced to husband from time to time." - Outsourced? So it's on her too? So lets for example will take away each others from their lifes and see what will change. A man will still work the same. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:27 PM
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There are species in which females are fully developed bodies, and males are simply drifting dick in the ocean with sole purpose of finding female and attach himself to her body.....just thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:18 PM
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If you feel that way, that doesn't change the fact that men claiming that they find 80% attractive a lie, and when you present that women and men find only 20% of people attractive, it stops being this venomous attack on women and noble place for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:42 PM
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If you can't be consistent on what you even mean, and then play like it's me not keeping attention when you contradict yourself, then it's below my intellectual level to spend time on this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:30 AM
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Want to try again? "This whole discussion (in case you aren't paying attention) is about YOU finishing first and leaving ME hanging. That would be a YOU problem." - meaning it's premature ejaculator's problem. The title: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Meaning it's not premature ejaculator's problem. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:18 AM
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"This whole discussion (in case you aren't paying attention) is about YOU finishing first and leaving ME hanging. That would be a YOU problem." Is english not your first language? This is your title: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer" I can clearly see that this statement contradicts your comment, so which is it? Because i have been paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:07 AM
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Oh, i means about shaming, not necessarily fat shaming, so yeah, i know many people who became broken because of shaming. "And if there was no fat shaming, they would still be fat but not hateful and broken, right?" - i assume so. No one is better when they are fat and broken, i'll take fat and happy any day. Of course healthy weight and happy is better, but well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:54 AM
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"What do you mean better?" - i mean better. "It's a you problem if me hypothetically finishing first would be a me problem, a "better" partner would only make it worse" - this is just a salad of words that don't make any sense. "Where's the part where you do anything for anyone else other than "be a woman whose not fat or old"?" - if he doesn't want to stick his dick inside me i'm fine with it, plenty will because i'm a woman, and not fat or old or whatever else i'm offering. I don't see why i s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:52 AM
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So they settled with a woman they didn't think was attractive and that's the value? No thanks. Watch what they do not what they say, apparently not when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:50 AM
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"Because it's irrelevant to the thread," - yeah, exactly like a person who reads first part of the sentence and think that the next one doesn't matter even if it changes context. "Or men prefer the most attractive women." - so much so that they ignored other 60% they deemed attractive? Then what's value of that "attraction"? I say they lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:31 AM
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"i don t think most people do the bare minimum at all, perhaps we have different definitions of it." - bare minimum is defined by every person based on what if comfortable for him and what isn't anymore. If someone's comfortable level is "paying the bills and playing video games" i do believe they will just do that in 99% of cases. "as for withdrawing this behavior is pretty much being a hikkimori, and yeah i do believe someone who only leaves his house to work and gave up on socialization long …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:18 AM
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It's good that it worked on you i guess, i knew many people who become just hateful and broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:01 AM
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It's funny. But honestly, wedding industry is ridiculous anyway. People pay enormous kinds of money they usually don't have for a party with ridiculous attention to details. I never understood that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:50 AM
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I don't think shaming works at all. But maybe we're talking about different things. I do think that there should be like "fat awareness" when there is information what to do, maybe groups of people who support in fat loss, etc. Something friendly but what portrays being fat as an issue it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:46 AM
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If you define that as a my problem - okay. But i will solve it the only way i can, which is through control of my actions (since i can't control anyone else) and leave to find someone who is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:13 AM
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They always do the bare minimum. Everyone does except rare few (men and women, it's not gendered). But you don't get to redefine the words "men will withdraw from society" to "men will just live comfortably without going above and beyond".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:10 AM
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"I once went soft with a girl I found really attractive," - happens, i wouldn't say it's an issue if it's just occasionally happens. Men are not robots, they can be nervous, or not in the mood, or stuck in their own head about something. No big deal. I would say the same thing about premature ejaculation, if it's rare. Happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:00 AM
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Easy. I want to have sex that i will enjoy. If i don't enjoy - i don't have sex with that person. I'm not going to dance around him to solve his issues. So want to have sex with me - become sex-worthy. Meaning if premature ejaculation is something that makes women not want to have sex with a man, then it's on a man to solve it if he wants to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:00 AM
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"Apparently I was a worthless piece of trash when I did it, but when she did it, I was somehow still the one in the wrong. Interesting how that works, huh?" - And in your situation with girls you wanted sex from, they were the "worthless trash" because they failed to get what society promised you will for your effort. And there are many men who will support that view. Don't pretend you're the only victim and judged here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:42 AM
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As i expected basically pretend like everything is fine and just pressure people to marry. And you think the issue is only that people are fat. And also you think that fat shaming will work.....alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:16 AM
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On spot. I laughed at that: "Pussy is the glue that prevents men from devolving into raging, rampaging, raping and pillaging sociopaths". Because yeah, they present themselves this way, but they don't see the implications of what they are saying. Because the next time they will tell you how "ungrateful you are, and men built everything" without realizing that they just admitted that men would've been incapable of building anything if they didn't have pussy. I also remember a funny conversation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:12 AM
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They don't understand the difference between what men are saying and what women are saying. To them "women have high standards, you should lower them so i can get some, why don't you date me" is the same as "i've observed men, and they do x, i don't like it". They lack either capability or desire to see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:06 AM
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What is your solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:04 AM
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"Dating app study" - survey. "showed that men's looks ratings deemed most women average, while women's looks ratings deemed most men (80%) below average." - I like how all of you forget the next part of it. Where men interacted with top 20% of women and women spend their time chatting with 80% of men. So seems like men lied. And women either don't care about looks that much, or also lied. Since they used this rating internally, they didn't know the data will be pulled and that someone is interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:00 AM
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I'm saying it as a slut, but "Casual sex isn't "not worth it" because men are inadequate" - no, it's because of that. Don't get me wrong, women also are at fault, i know because i improved. But i found that men have some weird "men are great" illusion that slips like that. Of course you can rebrand anything as "you want too much", but then what is enough? Is it reasonable to want pleasure? To not want to be sa'd? Where it becomes too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:38 PM
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I mean it's personal. It's not good for you - so don't have it. I see a lot of downsides in casual sex, but i treat them mostly like necessary troubles. Just like when i want to eat something it's necessary trouble to go and buy groceries and cook etc. Also girl, always bring your own condoms, the fuck you rely on men when you're the only one who will suffer the consequences. And what if he stored his condoms with his keys and they poked holes? What if this a condom that he religiously takes wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:31 PM
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and i will fuck other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:22 PM
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To me it's a bit different because of gender socialization, but as someone who has dated older guy when i was 18, i think let people make their own decisions. They are adults, how long will you infantilize them. Let them fucking date who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:31 PM
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For hookups: Not ugly or repulsive in his looks/mannerism/smell, is interested and acts like it, i like the way he touches/kisses, he is respectful, not pushy or aggressive and i need to be horny. Bonus points if he is charming, touchy, interesting enough, and express himself sexually in a way i like/turns me on, easy to communicate to. Then of course how he is in sex, and is he interested enough for another one, and will there be the same amount of effort. For relationship i kind of don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:30 PM
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So....two adults? This is weird. This woman wants a younger guy. I knew many younger guys who would love to have some older woman to date, there is a fetish of older woman teaching them, etc. I know many men who would love that when they were younger. And here are you, who judging two adults for who they want to fuck. I mean, keep your nose out of someone else's business? They are legal age, everything else isn't your concern. If you think that she is dangerous or manipulative or anything else -…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:20 PM
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If looks matters that much then men are fucking lazy for not doing anything about theirs and that means they are the architects of their problems
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:11 PM
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Totally reasonable, king, slay!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:49 PM
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I didn't get that from "if most men opposed the draft in Ukraine and supported the draft dodgers then something would be done about it."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:52 AM
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well yes, but that has nothing to do with the point of "enough people rebel and things will change"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:51 AM
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There was some election, where basically all people voted for an opposition to the current president. then the results were released, president have "won", people rebelled, like en masse, there were months of protests, people were on the streets. And now many of them are tortured in prisons, many ran and have some criminal charges against them, president is still in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:47 AM
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I laughed about "when enough men will oppose draft in Ukraine". To think like that is so....delusional. Did Belarus teach you nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:31 AM
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I refuse to listen to any black pill until tiktok won't be filled with advertisement for 50 different skincare for men (for different parts of the body, and day/night), shape wear, fake bulges, pants that accenting their bottoms, eye lush curlers (for men!!) and ways to make them dark, shoes that add inches without being obvious and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:41 AM
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No, they are attracted. Then they try to shape me into something that i'm not. The usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:37 AM
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"We also have data that male breadwinners on average share their spoils informally 50%ish with stay at home moms, but female breadwinners hog 85% of finacial decisions." I have a question. Because something doesn't add up. Who pays for the household expenses in the "men share their spoils 50/50"? Because if it's women who pay for groceries etc, and man just spends his 50 on himself, then it's one thing. I just don't understand how it's possible in a family with kids. " hog 85% of finacial decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:14 AM
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I see men claiming that women don't understand them (poor babies), but i don't know. I think i actually do, so far the only things that are surprise to me is just extremes or extent of what i already know. There was a post some time ago about "women, would you change yourself to appeal to men" basically. And most replies were "no". And recently i saw a comment of a guy who mentioned that post and how women don't want to even try to understand men. But i think it's just not that. I personally kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:31 AM
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haha, that's funny. What makes you think that he'll reach my count at all? I mean, I'm poly, he can ave sex all he wants, but 1) I don't like this motivation, and I would probably be incompatible with him simply because of his personality 2) I'm not going to sit idle and wait for years until he might reach my count
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:18 AM
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Hm. I don't really think that's necessarily true. I'm a digital nomad, and since i've started to work like that, i had way less communication that i was used to. And with traveling it's just flew out of the window. I will not talk about traveling aspect, because i feel like it's not as common, but working remotely is. People are pretty closed off, and to make friends let alone start to date from 0 is kind of hard. Dating apps for men suck. I'm blessed with having friends and digital community, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:37 PM
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Nothing wrong as in he is entitled to that preference and he isn't hurting anyone, so there is nothing bad? - yes. Nothing bad as in it's good moral standard and supports good views? - that's debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:08 PM
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I had a talc about periods about a year prior they happened, I knew where pads were in the house, I was ready. So no, It was normal I guess. I was just confused at first, is this what I think it is, but I realized after an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:42 PM
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Why not? I mean it's completely different experience, so isn't it interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:41 PM
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is there argument somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:28 PM
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I wanted to comment similar argument. Lets not forget that people can come with different motivations but they still will be in somewhat beneficial arrangement, and yet when we learn about motivations, we might judge one and not the other. I once saw two friend in uni, who spent a lot of time together and studied and so on. they shared interests too. but then i learned that one of them stayed because another helped a lot with assignments. So we have one of them who wanted to share interests and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:02 PM
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I know, that wasn't me shutting you up. It was genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:06 PM
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Like at least 20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:45 PM
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Hm. I don't really think that's necessarily true. I'm a digital nomad, and since i've started to work like that, i had way less communication that i was used to. And with traveling it's just flew out of the window. I will not talk about traveling aspect, because i feel like it's not as common, but working remotely is. People are pretty closed off, and to make friends let alone start to date from 0 is kind of hard. Dating apps for men suck. I'm blessed with having friends and digital community, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:30 PM
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I don't know what's the point of debate here, but i actually don't think this is men's fault. I see this as a culture and economy vs biology. The optimal age to have children biologically is your 20s. Culturally people are too infantilized, so they spend their 20 learning hor to properly function in society and be independent. Economically children just a loss, and right now a pretty expensive one. Before people had children so they would have another working pair of hands and it was a good deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:53 PM
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Another misunderstood poor baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:40 PM
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yeah, it worth to pay attention to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:02 AM
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Doesn't matter. Men are weird. When women bring up sa and rape, which many women encountered, men like to "not all men", and "those are just small minority". Okay, even if i disagree, okay. But then "how dare you not mention men who want to be stay at home dads". when encountering a man like that is way rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:31 AM
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He was sugar daddy, everything about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:28 AM
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I think men just have pussy envy. Pussy can get sex. So they are angry they don't have pussy. They subconsciously want pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:16 AM
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And what if there will be, what then? What will you change? If nothing, then maybe stop waiting and go live a life?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:15 AM
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Only if you fuck all of her personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:14 AM
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Why out of all subs that you could've asked this question you chose a debate sub?? Like why? Might as well ask this in a comics sub too. And cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:11 AM
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I thought about that, and to me it isn't. I do see your reasoning, but i think i don't see it this way. I don't think that indication that if he has women friends is bulletproof, because he might just go with a flow, his friendships are not that deep, or he was desperate and any human would do for the lack of males. Or anything else. I've seen misogynists that were friends with women, usually women were also misogynistic. Then there can me many reasons why generally a good guy doesn't have femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:08 AM
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'If you want to be heard you have to start listening first" - here you go, you see the issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:01 AM
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She missed them because they are negligible minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:26 AM
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Yeah, yeah, we got it, you're poor poor baby. There is small issue with that, but it will fall on deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:23 AM
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Not what i meant, but this is another issue, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:16 AM
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I bet. When people pointing out a color to a colorblind person i bet it feels like they imagining things and creating issues out of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:12 AM
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Sometimes i see men simply not understanding the issue because they lack EQ. Like they can't create some similar situation to imagine what they would feel, they can't read what implications are there, they can't read anything that isn't completely spelled out, and they miss the issue by miles. And that's completely different from when they are defensive but do understand the issue, or at least capable of. I don't know, i just see this clearly. Sometimes it's like we speak two different languages…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:25 AM
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soo, you're saying that women finally offering as much as men and you don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:42 AM
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The thing is people already decided what to believe. Look at the guy who I commented, he decided that women didn't like most men. At this point there is no use of telling him anything, because if women tell them something else he calls liars, and if women admit that, he is throwing tantrum that others aren't honest. And I will leave out is this true or not, I'm discussing reaction. So he already has decided what's true, he already knows, what's the point of women telling him anything? No, seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:31 AM
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What about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:11 AM
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Mhm. My point isn't about that. My point is how they see those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:11 AM
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I never said "only", but my point stands. Just because there is a kid there is no "magic" that will make a person love them unconditionally, all reality points to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:13 PM
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Ahaha, if you're going to "you can't understand until you have your own" me, then don't bother. I have eyes, and i saw what people did with their kids and called love. I don't need my own to realize that people call all kinds of perversion and cruelty "love". and i also saw how quickly that "love" turned to "hate" when a kid refused to do simple things. Or embraced themselves. So no, having kid isn't some magic that makes you love someone unconditionally, as much as you want to patronize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:11 PM
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1) i really doubt that, but there is no test, so i'll just stay doubtful 2) then it's not something i will call love, to me love is something that is attached to what kind of person it is, it's impossible to "love" the same when personal qualities are different. so we call "love" different feelings. Well, there were people who beat their loved ones and called that love, so i'm not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:05 PM
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And that question was too hard to mirror and apply to your kids? Alright, will you love them if one of them will kill another?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:40 PM
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Will your mommy love you if you would kill your dad? If not - then maybe i'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:32 PM
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I'm outlier here, but depends on out relationship. If we are something like fwb, or casual in any form, i don't care if he lies about his name, age, job, bodycount...etc. I don't really care about this stuff. I do care if he lies about his intentions towards me. I mean if he for example knows my boundary and tells me that he is okay with it, but thinks that he'll make me change my mind - that shit won't fly with me. The closer we are the less accepting of lies i become. But i still think there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:18 PM
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Yes, i made plenty of posts criticizing men. And that is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:08 PM
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Like they think they value us. Their "valuing" us can only come in nightmares to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:58 PM
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The question is are they willing to take those males or not? Because i don't like what men want from women, and i simply walk away because that means i don't like men as they are right now (except those who aren't). It's not the same as "i want a woman, but i want her to also approach me, what? why will she do that? because....because....you're fucking misandrist!!!" I know what i want to bring in relationships and what i don't, and i know that's valuable to some people. Those men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:41 PM
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"This quite literally describes you and practically every woman here." - not really. Simply because women aren't the one who complain about high standards men have, or how they are desperate, or that they want relationship and will take a man, any man, who will do x, y, z for them. Criticizing gender isn't the same as trying to humble them to take them cheap so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:26 PM
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"Is this not applicable to when like the most mid woman you have ever met in your life only wants a 666 dude?" - have you met a woman like that personally? Just curious. But yes, it's applicable. It's just i hear about those women only from men and they from podcasts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:07 PM
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For what should i be grateful, and how this should be shown?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:03 PM
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I think it has element of competition, how big of a role it'll play depends on a man. But there will be competition, simply because we exist in society and people compare. for me personally? or for women in general? Tho i guess answer is the same. Yes if they want something from me/them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:02 PM
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Men date for men, so they only care about what brings status among men. That's the issue with this status/leagues system, women have different criteria, so we just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:46 PM
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You think that if you add 5 peppers you'll survive? Well you know what, with the heat we have....i might share your diet. tho i have apricots, and i'm addicted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:35 PM
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Ahaha, question of the week. I asked that multiple times and got multiple downvotes and "you're a misandrist". I think some men don't think that they have to bring value at all, they want to be valued intrinsically, the issue is even parents don't feel this way for their children, but they come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:34 PM
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Yes, but i find it pointless to argue with men about it. They know better from their good vantage point near their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:09 PM
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What's funny about Af/BB thing is that men think that women can't lock down an Alpha, and he is just pumping and dumping women, and uses them at his convenience, and women think like that too. That they recognize that he is "superior" and what else can she, average Becky do....When in reality i've never heard or seen such behavior. Women who dated players and realized that they couldn't lock him down usually see him as narcissistic pos (due to his behavior) or in the best case as someone immatur…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:00 PM
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Is this all you have for this summer?? You'll starve!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:53 PM
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I have another theory, he might not be western. In some other cultures being a creep who ignores "no" is basically necessity for any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:30 AM
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Because you have rich experience of men rejecting you as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:29 AM
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And then men complain that they can't do anything without being reported...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:28 AM
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I'm going to read my horoscope now. I don't believe in them, but i like to read about how everything will be great for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:27 AM
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I found a better version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hU5rqNGcQ
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:27 AM
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Just catcall them and tell them you'll make them pregnant, i've been told that's what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:25 AM
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Oh? I see. No, to me it isn't. And people can lie even when they know truth without malice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:11 AM
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Is this your example of showing how honest men are? Because you just told that world knows about men's nature, and as soon as I've pointed it out you attacked women. Really can't make this up, honest guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:11 AM
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What's so harsh about my take? Yes, people are self deluded, and yes it's painful to see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:44 AM
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You want argument? All right. Men can't shut up about how good they actually are and how those murderous blah blah is some small negligible minority, so women are wrong for considering men dangerous. The world knows that men are dangerous not because men are honest butterflies but because there is statistics and women fight for their rights. So you lied. And doubled down. And the question is should I now hate all men for your lies? Because lying is important, right, not the actual actions that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:32 AM
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I want people to stop respecting "no" of every man who does this shit. And by this shit I mean justify that no doesn't means no. I have no judgment of people OP brought as example because I don't know what happened there. But I do read OP..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:54 AM
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I am saying that you lied. And doubled down. No bonus points for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:44 AM
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Yeah, it just didn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:18 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:13 AM
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"The whole world knows about the dark sides of the male nature, because men don't lie about them" - you just lied, congratulation. Bonus points if you can point out where is the lie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:11 AM
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It's interesting how men tell to "choose better" and simultaneously they also wallow that they can't treat women as shit because they are not attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:21 AM
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"Because you lie about it" - i never understood that. If women said "we're not attracted to most men" will that make you feel better? Because some men here come with quotes like that from women, and somehow they don't say "well, they are honest, i like that". Then i also don't understand why it's so important? Everybody lie. Men lie. Women lie. Everybody is stupid too, even if they don't want to lie they want to believe some things about themselves so they won't tell the truth because that requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:07 AM
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It's interesting how men like to tell "choose better" and simultaneously whine that they don't get to treat women as shit because they are not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:40 AM
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i can understand that chain of thought but it has issues. 1) its based on assumptions and if we're going to play "i'll advise you based on my assumptions simply because of your gender" you wouldn't like it. It's not generalization when it's personal verdict and advice, especially like that. 2) you give men too much credit. they say it in the most ridiculous situations. i was told to "choose better" simply when i described any negative interactions with men, like their messages on dating apps aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:14 PM
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I concur, it's about information. I think men here too often use it without any information about the woman they tell it to, or a man she dated, or what did she know. That makes this phrase simply victimblaming. I also think that the person who does something wrong shouldn't fall into shadow of "you chose wrong". Choosing is precaution, there is still active action that brought damages. That is my second issue with men who want to jump to "choose better". Overall if a persons moral compass is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:21 PM
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"The situation is a bit different if you a woman dealing with a man than it is for a man dealing with a woman." - no it isn't. Either you care about your relationship and the person, or you don't. "In the context if the ppst there kinda is." - ppst? also based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:08 PM
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That's too vague of a situation. There is no right fits all answer. I had relationships where i let people to distance themselves and let them go. I had relationships where i pushed for conversation and tried to solve issues. Honestly, more often than not, i don't think i let people go simple when they detached themselves. Unless i understood the reason and realized it's unfixable. But it's about people i like, i do value them, so i'm not too prideful to try to mend things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:59 PM
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Then what's so good about you compared to other tables and why would i need the table at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:20 PM
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deaf ears as i've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:05 PM
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I know it will fall on deaf ears, but i'll try. I didn't say you didn't experience SA. I said you don't know how it is for women. And i called you out on your behavior, because why the fuck you use your sa to attack women who don't want to be sa'd instead of uniting against people who assault. That's what i call out. That's what i don't like in your behavior. Did you experience it or not i don't really know, so no point on calling out that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:02 PM
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You are free not to fix this. I am free to make my judgment of your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:00 PM
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oh, and here we are, you completely changed the meaning of what I said to atack me. I was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:12 PM
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I honestly don't really know how majority of women look like in relationships, but I don't think they are innocent unicorns. I would say that if a woman will be as superficial as a man then yes, I would react the same. The difference starts when any of them stops reacting superficially. Because things that they want might simply not exist yet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:05 PM
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I find it hard to believe. So either give me screens of our conversations, or I think you confusing me with someone. Or you took what I said out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:02 PM
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Where did I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:35 PM
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"either don’t realize the dangers we face or the extra things we do to get healthily male validation and relationships." - they don't, and they don't want to. Sympathy will destroy their world unironically. That will make them see women as people, and see lots of things they don't want to see, and pull up their ass from their victim throne.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:49 PM
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They believe that women are not in fact great in assessing their worth, and they try to lock down a "high value" man and when they can't they date on their level. To be honest i see both of those statements the same. Baseless. There are no evidence that women are chasing Chads, but also i don't know if women in their majority are good in assessing their worth. I also saw women who dealt with such shit in relationship that i wondered do they even have "self worth" in their dictionary at all. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:45 PM
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I'm not as dumb to think that men will answer me honestly. and yet, the answer is there, all i need is just open my eyes and ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:34 PM
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Another day another reminder how delusional men are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:32 PM
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I disagree, men also attack women. Lets not forget that this manchild in his tantrum of not wanting to do the dishes can kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:18 PM
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Mhm, and they lived on different continent, america is for women, europe is for men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:22 AM
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To post or not to post, that is the question....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:22 AM
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I mean yeah, "men are protectors" is shit. But also it's delusional to think that women weren't the part of the community and when men "get together" as you've put it - they didn't protect women also. Tho depends on a culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:16 AM
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I'm still waiting for men who give this demands to women to actually name what do they bring to the table and why women should do anything for them. So far only downvotes and "you're a misandrist"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:08 AM
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You mean i remember what you say and not let backtrack? Oh yes i am. Sorry, if you want coddling - go to your mommy,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:50 AM
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So you yourself don't have an answer. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:14 AM
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Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:12 AM
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If the only reason to get into relationship for you is to get sex - you definitely shouldn't be in one, and do just fuck around and not waste anyone's time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:08 AM
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But my observation rocks. It's not like i see women who don't want to do anything with me and throw conditions on what should they do to make me stay. But alas, do you have the answer to my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:04 AM
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wimin bad post. But what men bring to the table? Like if I'm bad because I don't want to date a man what's so good in dating man? Don't say children, because that's next question. Edit. Funny enough any time i ask this question i get only downvotes. If you can say nothing, maybe you're not the prize you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:33 AM
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This is so funny. And crazy. But also funny. I remember teens, boys in my school knowing that periods influence women's cravings. And then there are people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:25 PM
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"know there's one of a myriad of reasons someone can choose to say "No" - didn't stop you from making a conclusion. "But if intelligence and empathy were really as important as women would say" - that doesn't mean that other things are not important. For me for example it's not enough, but still necessary. "confidence, a strong work ethic, a rugged body, the desire to provide, etc." - i'm just confused since when liberal means not confident, without work ethic, and not strong? Okay, i do underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:53 PM
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Not enough info.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:57 PM
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"Im not gonna argue with someone so pedantic" - I'm not going to argue with someone who won't let my mistakes slide and will tell me to admit when i was wrong. Here, fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:47 PM
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So you in fact will mix two scenarios to whatever pleases you in the moment and you think you're owed sex. Got it. I'm just happy I don't have people like that in my life. People I have actually do care about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:15 PM
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So any abuse victim who stayed for years just loved it and it was a kink, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:10 PM
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Can you follow a conversation? How not giving bj is an assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:59 PM
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So you chose to mix two scenarios and can't separate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:58 PM
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"here are plenty of ways to solve those issues" - literally what you said. And then "if it's something out of his control then I'd say they are just incompatible" when i asked to solve them. I know, it's hard to imagine, but i do have a memory. Where. Like read scenario 2 and let me know when she said it was kinky. What of her actions and words implied that she wanted that? Was it the new rule that new men have to wait for sex now? OP said it was kinky for HIM - which is the reason for my reacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:33 PM
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What suggested that she liked being sex doll? Like what her actions or words suggested to you that this is an experience that she liked and wants to repeat? Was it the new rule that she created after this, when she made guys wait? just let me in on that thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:27 PM
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Well cool if you can understand what he tries to say. To me it's like someone just put their thoughts out without making them readable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:24 PM
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You know there is this moment, when a woman decides to leave relationship, and a man finally realizes that she is serious (too little to late) and he tries to save relationship. And he does so by trying to negotiate, like "alright, you don't like me not doing chores, i will in the future but you'll have to have sex with me x times a week". Like they have leverage. Like another party didn't already packed their stuff and doesn't want to compromise anymore. That's how conversations with "desperate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:23 PM
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well it is since men see it as payment for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:13 PM
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so you realized that you talked out of your ass, and there isn't always solutions to everything. Cool. yeah, because that's how women behave after they enjoyed something. kink play. I swear, some men are delusional to the dangerous level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:11 PM
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I bite - understand and give me solutions. no it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:08 PM
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I do understand parts of the post, and i did answer specific questions. But aside from that i don't understand what he tried to say. What confuses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:08 PM
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"Scenario 2 would most likely be making her current partner wait when she has sex faster with other men in her past. This one is also weird because it seems like what other men got early you suddenly have to wait for. A real scenario is I had a partner that spent years being some dirty fuckers “living fuck doll for years” (her own words not mine) from the start till the end. But for me she wanted to impose a six month rule. And it gave me pause. Why make me wait? I did the six months and when we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:05 PM
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Does that "had a partner that spent years being some dirty fuckers “living fuck doll for years” (her own words not mine)" - sound like she is "freely, willingly, with consent, gave other guys that but would withhold it from him, despite saying that she enjoyed doing it"? Or do you think that i'm talking about blowjob? I commented about blowjob above, that's what i tell about second situation. also why, why men measure love by sexual acts?? It's so stupid. I might love a guy to death, but won't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:18 PM
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You are free to participate in this dance, god knows i do things that i don't want to so i will get what i do want. But that's really on me, there is always a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:10 PM
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alright, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:04 PM
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"Imagine that jestering is being a class clown for 1 woman who does not like you." - then why are you not walking away and blaming women for being entitled to it, and like you have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:03 PM
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Then walk away? I don't try to "not be boring and entertain" the guys that cosplay lighting pole. I just move on. And if i would do that, that's on me. My decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:03 PM
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ahaha, that's so funny. Alright, i bite. Solve every of those issues, in plenty ways. Way to misunderstand. I said that "or next time i'll get raped" but since it's such a trigger word for you let me rephrase "or next time i will do something that i don't want sexually for any reason, he won't sympathize with me and just sulk that i didn't do the same for him as a punishment" Because that's exactly what OP is whining about. Some guy used a woman as a sex doll, she learned her lesson, and he is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:01 PM
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So a man sees that he has to be different to get some attention, and that he has to try, and he blames women for that, and said that he has to be a jester? Make it make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:56 PM
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"Are we, at the end of the day, just... not trusting each other with power?" - yes. "What if YOU were the more powerful one, do you think you​ would innately hurt the other?" - I don't think many women are ready for that conversation, but yes, women would abuse power too. They already do, just not with men, because they don't have power over men like that statistically. Aside from that i have no idea what the point you tried to deliver, it was too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:39 PM
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If it's for breeding only then there is no checklist beside "put penis in her during ovulation and without condom". So think logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:33 PM
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For me it really could be the number of reasons, i've listed from my experience, and when i think about it, there are more. Anyway, to expect the same sex that she had with someone is to basically admit that you're a robot that doesn't act differently and doesn't want anything different. I'll die on that hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:27 PM
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sex isn't some checklist that you see and decide what's better. But shows what you all think and feel. Hell i had sex where i did only 2 positions and it was better that some where i tried 5. I don't know what else is in your checklist, but it really shows that sex isn't an activity for you, it's medals for being "good boy".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:20 PM
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Of course you don't have any idea, which is sad. But you wrote exactly what i said. You just think that it's normal, so you can't step out, imagine a woman as a person, and then see what i see. You think that she owes you something, that she makes you wait maliciously, like she knows your intentions just by looking at you, like she is punishing you before knowing you, when she simply learned her lesson, probably traumatized and wants someone who'll treat her well. You have 0 sympathy for her, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:07 PM
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"being fuck doll for a years" kind of the same thing. It's not something that she want's to repeat, it's not good treatment of her, and you're sulking because you're not that guy who got to treat her that poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:01 PM
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"I do not believe that anyone has conversations with their current partners about being a “living fuck doll for years” for past partners while beginning to date." - i would've. And i would've used it as a test to vet guys who think that i owe them something now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:59 PM
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I don't know masculine man, shouldn't you lead your way out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:55 PM
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The way she chose to live her life isn't punishment to anyone. You are free to walk away if you don't like. Simple example. I was in a relationship where i was coerced to give sex certain amount of times a week. Now i simply won't tolerate this shit. But someone with your logic will say that "you gave sex X times a week and don't do it for me, why am i punished for his actions". You are not, i'm living as a want, with conditions that i want. Take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:55 PM
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Then i see you as non-masculine. Because why are you complaining and not changing who is in your life and under what conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:50 PM
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Your issue is that you treat women as property and conquest. Lose that mindset and the answer becomes obvious. 1) about first situation there can me many things at play. The guy might have poor hygiene, the taste might be off even if all is fine, she simply didn't like his dick, maybe he has too much precum, maybe he doesn't react in a rewarding way, maybe she needs to suck him for too long. Who knows. It's not a medal for being with her, not something she gives away because you were nice. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:50 PM
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I agree, this behavior is wrong (tho if what he did 10 years ago shows a pattern, then maybe it's exactly logical), how often does it happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:43 PM
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Can you give me an example of a situation, how women act and how they should?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:34 PM
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QfM Can somebody define what actions they call "being a jester for a woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:20 PM
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My question when should they be masculine in your opinion? Like when it doesn't benefit them but they still should?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:16 PM
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then it's not the answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:06 PM
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So women shouldn't be masculine when it doesn't benefit them, then what's your issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:45 AM
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I feel like all of those changes are done by changing lightning and camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:50 AM
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"i have no idea how women choose men, and men they claim to be the best are not the hottest i've seen" - fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:32 AM
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why do you make it sound bad? When it doesn't benefit women to be masculine and they still should be such?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:29 AM
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"What incentive do you have now? Having someone to think for you, lead you and take the initiative?" - that's not the answer. "These are your own words." - yeah, lets pretend that you didn't insinuate this, lets skip that "not enough" has it's meaning, lets play dumb here. /s Edit to add. It's interesting when someone tries to change the conditions of the "deal" for the lack of the better word, without any understanding what another party gets of out of it. Basically: "Now i will do less and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:08 AM
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I'm stealing this phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:01 AM
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By saying that women aren't masculine enough. Not enough means that they should change and take masculinity upon themselves. And then your last paragraph is basically how this "burden" falls on men. So men want to be unburdened (or you want them to be), and women should take it upon themselves. Then what men bring into relationships? What incentive do i as a woman should have to be in relationship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:00 AM
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"If women had truly become masculine in the traditional sense, we would expect to see them initiating relationships as often as men...." - wrong, because being decisive doesn't mean deciding what you want me to. If men are not attractive then you can make the most initiating and decisive woman, and she will just do something else instead of starting relationship with a man. "Instead, many of these expectations still fall overwhelmingly on men. Men are still generally expected to make the first m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:52 AM
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define jester?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:31 AM
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Did you tell mods that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:43 AM
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my first thought about op is that those are loud words from gender that pride themselves in ignoring what women say and basing their advice on *observation*. So observe then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:24 AM
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thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:08 PM
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Before answer i will clarify for all men out there who needs this. Sex isn't just some dude who'll stick his penis in me, sex is something that i'll also enjoy, there is no point in looking for some guy who'll use me as blow-up doll. That really depends on location a lot. I, personally, don't feel like it's easy, takes a lot of effort to swipe and chat, vet, go on dates, vet there etc. I don't feel like it's impossible too, but finding good sex takes weeks for me. Finding meh sex probably a week…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:00 PM
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Depends, i don't have any loyalty lol. Lately i've been into bungee jumping. Not the extreme kind, but more like something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:20 PM
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I'm actually pretty low maintanance. Probably about 200 on makeup a year, then about 200+- a year on haircare, and that's it. I don't count clothes here or sports because i don't do sports for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:13 PM
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I, personally, have nothing against Bonnie Blue etc. But i'll argue the principle that you think should exist. I see it as you think in black and white. But there is no such things in life. There is no real extreme to sexual expression. Bonnie Blue isn't it. There could be more extreme cases. And more, and more. Same with prudishness, there is no level after which we say "there is nothing more prudish". We as a species are pretty creative, so there is no end. And then it's also not a straight li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:06 PM
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I actually support mod's policy here. Because it's weird experience to come to debate when you don't see 25% of comments. It's one thing to block because of some stalking or something like that, but when you just don't like a person on a sub where 50% of people are like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:45 PM
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Will we? How did you make that conclusion? You do realize that social mechanisms didn't just suddenly appeared without any reason? I'm not saying you're wrong, to be clear, i'm asking did you think about it more than 1 minute?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:41 PM
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What a stupid comment. Yes, some food grows in nature. But to forage it means working. To grow food means working. To hunt means working. To build a shelter means working. What you're doing right now is simply working differently to exchange it for the labor of someone who can grow, forage and hunt more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:51 PM
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You are a virgin as per your flair. Are you on a deathbed? Are you unable to move and function? What are your medical bills because of your lack of sexual activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:07 PM
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You can't show pictures to friends or police for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:36 AM
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I met people sometimes like that, talked and only later found out how they looked. Had good and bad experiences with that. But i didn't met them to date, it just happened and we hit it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:24 AM
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🙄 No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:18 AM
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You have to be clearer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:56 AM
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Oh, it wasn't covert. He asked for the future, I wasn't clear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:00 AM
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maybe he'll finally be able to love
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:04 AM
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I don't blame men for my necessity to work, after all women always worked, nothing new here. "Women decided cooking, cleaning, laundry, and child care were so beneath them" - not really, women decided that being dependent on men and giving them power to do anything they want is beneath them. Your average girl is still cleans and cooks. "that they wanted to have careers instead." - we wanted to finally be paid for our work. And recognized. "You can’t deprioritize domesticity in favor of careerism…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:01 AM
1

Why not? What if it was a dinner and not fuel?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:01 AM
1

Well for her I don't know, but it takes me more than a week for sure. That depends on what someone prefer in sex I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:51 AM
2

Eh, i know men like to think that, but good sex for a woman isn't actually that easy to come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:41 PM
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Yes, there is ton of misogyny, but you're wrong, it's not echo chamber, that's what i like about this sub, there are truly people who think differently and argue with each other. It's still niche place, but in no way it's echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:40 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:16 PM
2

QfA I have a friend who got into the situation. She was on dating apps to find some guy to hookup. There was this guy from another town that super liked her. She didn't like that he was from another town but decided to see how that will go. Well he said that it's not far, he has a car (it's europe, so not everyone has a car), he will come to her. She thought about it, and thought that if it's on that conditions then why not. He comes - they have sex, seems like all good. The guys comes again. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:58 PM
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I literally gave link, if you bother to read it - you'll know. But short answer - everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:51 PM
2

And that is also true. The thing is it's simply an observation. More women are withdrawing from dating, and more men are approaching and claimig that they want women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:43 PM
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https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/news/2851-men-do-see-the-mess-%E2%80%93-they-just-aren%27t-judged-for-it-the-way-women-are Here you go. Now let's sit there and watch your opinion not changing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:52 PM
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no. There is a research about how men and women perceive cleanliness roughly the same. It's just it's women who are judged is the place is unclean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:34 PM
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I admit that you can't understand what i've said. and that men can't take what they dish out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:29 AM
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Oh yeah, if that one specific second (if you're to be believed) men didn't dish out their usual, i'm supposed to ignore everything else and context in which we talk about? Try something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:22 AM
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seems like men unable to take what they dish out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:10 AM
2

Honestly, at this point, i'm not against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:41 AM
12

This post is just some weird salad of arguments that don't come together, but arguing against it feels so weird. Basically i see it as "men usually don't pull their weight at home" - "nu uh! men are working as chefs at restaurants and you're willing to pay for their food".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:16 AM
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Is there a place where i can read more about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:55 AM
1

It never is. Lets not forget "men have to jump through hoops" - IgorXY
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:44 AM
1

I watched tv series, there were two women, who worked together, and travelled together, sometimes in the same room. And i was like "oh, cool, they are friends", "makes sense, they are not exceptionally rich, so saves money". In the episode 7 it was disclosed that they are married. Well, i'm sorry, lesbians and bi girls, it's really hard to read women as a woman. I would totally do all of that with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:39 AM
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Oh, hi. It's unrelated, but i remember that you're pink pill, and you told that pink pill isn't red pill. Can you tell me a little bit more, in dm if you don't want here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:36 AM
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And then i just remember how the dating looks like from my side and laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:34 AM
2

I didn't. Women are optional too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:29 AM
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Who said anything about physical? But also...why having high physical standards makes someone bad? They don't harm anyone, just not allowing access to themselves. Men will forgive rape easily and say that "he just didn't know". But they will never forgive a woman who wants someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:27 AM
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And i think that men like to think it's all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:20 PM
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Men and what they bring into my life, keep up with conversation or don't participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:05 PM
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But to point that out they have to have that info. So far they just create some stories in their head and attack real people because of that. Usually with men being the victim and also the great guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:52 PM
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100 years ago in lets say Russia, it was impossible to find a man who wouldn't hit a wife. So not wanting to be beaten was a "high" standard if we comparing it to the norm. But if we thinking about it in human terms, was it? Was it so over the clouds not want to be beaten? That's the same thing right now. My standards are high if we think about them compared to the "norm", but i don't. I don't want to judge you better because there are men who suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:40 PM
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too high in whose opinion? In mine they are bare minimum. There is no objectivity in that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:29 PM
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And that's also ridiculous, simply because he doesn't know me, doesn't know my standards, and they don't have to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:19 PM
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and as always i have one question, if a man so resentful - why the fuck did he settle with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:18 PM
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And i thought i told you to stop playing expert on me, but alas here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:17 PM
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"Like what is the point asking, this is personal." - really? but correcting me isn't personal? Telling me i should want a man isn't? Telling me that men are fine and will make my life better isn't? The way i see it men talk out of their ass and then when they realize that they sound stupid they attack me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:08 PM
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Why in the world would i be conservative?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:55 PM
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Simple. You claim that i want too much. So i ask what exactly do you bring that i should want. I want it voiced. And usually it isn't because there is nothing, and the answer i shouldn't want anything. But i have to want him at the same time like hw is the best thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:54 PM
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and there is a way to tell me i'm wrong in my impression? In for a penny in for a pound.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:52 PM
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Am i like what? But interesting that you think i'll answer regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:51 PM
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"But again, if you feel jaded and you response is to turn shallow of course people will attack you for it." - All i do is state my experience, if i'm jaded, ironically it only proves my point. "I don't want to tell you." - i didn't ask personally you. It's an argument when men correct me that they actually do bring enough to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:44 PM
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I hate the table talk too, but i have no idea how to deliver the thought more clearly. Men argue that they are the prize and all my experience claims otherwise. They hear that and claim that i'm wrong. So that's the question i ask, what men do to make my life easie/bring to the table/make them good for me, however you want to phrase. If you think that you bring enough - then tell what it is. If your stance is "i bring what i bring" - it's fair, i have same stance, but then don't complain when ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:16 PM
4

Is this a secret? the height topic is talked about everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:00 PM
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What's to criticize about not wanting to date short guy? It's physical attraction, it's just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:59 PM
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I like watching men lose their shit about how women's standards are too high and then fail to answer what do they bring to the table basically. Tho sometimes they answer. The most hilarious so far is "i'm not ugly and i have job". I wanted to answer that he is allowed cookie after dinner then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:51 PM
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I remember having the same thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:52 AM
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So do you or don't you have female friends? If yes - why? Do they know that you see them as useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:35 AM
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then what the fuck is this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:21 AM
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Not relevant to conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:07 AM
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So i'll take it as a fantasy. So you listed some imaginary scenario as a "benefit", a "benefit" that you don't get, and emotional support which i think we can both agree that every friend should provide and it's not really gender dependent (i hope). So that only makes me think that you're not friends with women for different reasons, that you don't say. But likely it's because you see women only as potential sex partners and you don't see them as interesting people at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:58 AM
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Say? probably not. Run? Probably yes. Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:56 AM
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"Say I go out with my female friends and we got confronted with a physical threat" - how often does it happen? Is this real life scenario or you just making it up to justify whatever is true reason? Like men who say that "women and children first" is awful blah blah, but the likelihood of actually being in this situation and then actually be demanded to let women and children first is so negligible that this whole argument looks like fighting with bogus. I mean maybe you do live in dangerous pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:49 AM
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I'm confused again. This whole conversation started because women stated that they don't feel connection to certain men, and you argued that it's not necessary. Now you bring connection as argument. Same with emotions. My toys muscles are me, and i have them, so that's also a miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:43 AM
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What physical support do you mean? What financial?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:31 AM
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What's the benefit in friendship with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:25 AM
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No. I believe that because i lived with women and i lived with men. But if you think that i'm wrong - explain. How men will make my life good, how women will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:20 AM
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I don't see why that would be bad. question tho - why platonic friendships with women are not beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:19 AM
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So seems like only successful sex hounds are... well successful, and others are not? Then what id your argument about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:50 AM
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I can complain all i want? Like how did you jump to that? I'm sticking to my principles, i'm staying single because there is no other way, and i'm staying single because imo there are no decent men. It's not like i want to be single. It's simply you think that i'm not entitled to my opinion of what is decent, and you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:00 AM
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It's pointless. People like him only say meaningless phrases and ignore whatever you say, and call it "wisdom". I don't know about him, but i personally wouldn't want 70yo man in a body of however he is old. If i wanted to listen to this shit i would go to some nursing home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:51 AM
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Yes, people don't usually look for someone from scratch. They already have community that shares something similar with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:35 AM
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Why? No seriously, why. I said my standards are unrealistic 100%. And you want what? Confirm that? And checked it out, this is hilarious. "exclude married"....because all women are okay dating married men. And then exclude obese.....omg, and you're so proud of that thing i guess. That what you use to humble women....Oh, it's also about guys in US...So it's not even applicable. My standards are unrealistic because i see men as people who can't really see me and treat me right and be on the same l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:24 AM
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But did this guy used it and did it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:12 PM
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I'm confused. You just posted that he got none, and then you say that he gets laid. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:09 PM
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And now you just double down and change what i said to opposite because you can't admit that you just wanted to insult me. Well i will ignore that interesting conversation from now on, i my experience men never admit when they are in the wrong. I'll skip your "you can't take a joke" or other cliche defenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:48 PM
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If you think so. That wasn't witty, nor prompted. It was literally just because. Typical. Or hateful if you just wanted to do it because it's me. Typical still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:27 PM
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Did you miss the part about opening and witty? Of course you did. I'm not a man to insult just because, it's your (mens) playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:20 PM
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I don't know who you are, but i don't really care about that. I care about ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:13 PM
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The whole concept of leagues is about that. "i deserve better and people around me don't realize this so i will create "objective" reasoning and blame people"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:11 PM
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Sometimes people are just asking for personal insults. Like today there was this comment with a perfect opening, and it would be witty, but....personal insult, so i kept my fingers to myself. Too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 PM
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I kinda see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:37 PM
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that might be, but solution isn't "women, place!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:01 PM
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And you failed to answer two of my questions and all you can offer is "beh meh, you'll regret it later", typical cartoonish phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:32 PM
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For me too, i just can't get what i want from men. So i have to live my life as is, it's not like i can create a man i would love. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:31 PM
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To have kids all you have to do is fuck without condom and wait. Not much of a medal for intellect. And my mom lived her life to the best she can and unlike you I know the results. So yeah, i know better, would be weird if i didn't, i mean learning from mistakes of others is a sign of intellect and also parents should raise their children to be better. Try again with cheap manipulation, you sound just like old people who have nothing in life except judging passing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:56 PM
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"the likely-hood of you ending up alone is almost 100%." - sorry, i laughed at that. It's when you try to pretend smart by stating the obvious. "you said that there is a picture of a blue ocean - the likely-hood of ocean portrayed on a picture is close to 100%" Gee, how did you get to this conclusion, what a dumb me to not realize it? "really know what "compromising" means to this situation, but i can assure you there is 100% a man out there for you," - well you can read my comment a bit more an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:54 PM
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You sound like my mom, so far she was wrong on every account. But that seems like you don't have any answer to my question, just some "missing opportunity". I'll risk it. I better miss some opportunity than live in horror right now. About 50yo, i'm not scared. Women date when they are 50. I think i'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:47 PM
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I can agree or disagree but you didn't provide any arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:43 PM
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Still, how is that controlling anything. You are not forced to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:58 PM
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What you said is true, but how do women control it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:49 PM
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At this point living with my girlfriends is better than with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:30 PM
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"We can even disregard that gaining muscle, losing fat, fixing your bite etc. makes you more healthy." - i don't think when people talk about dangers of looksmaxing they talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:28 AM
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My standards are completely unrealistic. But the thing is men are optional. I can live without one. So why should i lower them to anything you want, if compromising and taking men as they are now will make my life worse? Can you explain it to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:46 AM
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There are romance for men, when they discuss basically gender swap of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:37 AM
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Not that i think of myself as liberal, but the difference is kind of obvious. One is done for themselves and their mental health, the other is cosmetic and done to attract others. So one should ideally lead to mental health improvement, and another is going through surgery and taking risks (because every surgery is a risk) and making yourself less healthy to supposedly attract people, who might not even like that. I'm not going to argue about validity of those arguments, but the process are diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:14 AM
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"and sex is required to reproduce." - i don't think that it matters for arousal that much. I might be turned on by a guy licking pussy, and that has nothing to do with reproduction. Or anal. What about foot fetishists? It's about pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:51 AM
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And that's not the love you want your partner to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:21 AM
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"the mere sight of a penis entering a vagina with his thighs smacking against the woman's booty and the man's ballsack smacking against her clit isn't enough to turn you on?" - no, not really. But also i want to say that ballsack slapping anything isn't something that turns me on or something that i even pay attention to. I know that men usually find it hot, that's something they point out in what they see or think (i would fuck you so hard my balls will slap your ass...) but for me it's just no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:02 AM
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I use the same as men, because they are bigger. Depends. Sometimes i know what i want and how to look for it. Sometimes when i don't it can take a while or i can just give up. If there are sites catered towards women i don't know about them. The selection for women, that major sites have are usually not what i like. In another comment thread here another woman and I share that tumbrl were something like a space that women used for porn they enjoyed, but not anymore. But even with tumbrl it wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:43 AM
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Yeah, fuck i miss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:33 AM
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That's like 2%!!! What should others do!!! it's not like we can control hair color!!! You do realize that you're just cutting off 98% of women!!! Your standards are ridiculous, cloud high! And you think that you deserve it?? You are probably some average guy. She would just dine and run you. Unlike some good average girl who doesn't have that many options. (for anyone too dense to understand it's a parody of how men react to basically anything women want)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:32 AM
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Disappointing in what relationships i can have with them and their character. "Are you comparing men to disney princes, men from books, celebrities" - neither. Men in disney were never stars of the show imo, and the relationship was never shown. I have no idea how celebrities are in life, and even the glimpses of their relationship is not enough to create an image of what they had. Books? Well i guess you can say books, but not smut as you think. More classic books? Where men are decisive, have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:25 AM
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Yeah, we have AO3, but that's not the same. I need pictures too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:19 AM
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To love means to know a person and love something about them. I don't think that men who present themselves as having "bare minimum" standards and willing to take any woman can take moral high ground about how better they are than those picky devils.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:18 AM
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Not the woman you're asking, but since you said you're curious about women, i'll answer too. That would probably do nothing for me. I don't know why, seems too robotic? But for example i liked videos where a man first teased with his dick and then started to slide slightly, and then started to fuck. Same view, only dick and pussy, but different actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:57 AM
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I literally don't know where to look for what i had there. There were tumbrls that collected arts and gifs that were just what i liked. And now i literally don't know where to find something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:53 AM
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I watch porn, but I have to look for some that I would enjoy, so I have no idea how to answer. I usually avoid Brazzers or something like that because of how it filmed. I don't like women there, they are too fake. I don't like men for the same reason, and everything looks unpleasant and fake and I just can't. Usually I watch something where I can imagine some situation and it would turn me on, or some pleasure. I don't know which is harder to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 AM
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omg! Yes! I can't find anything to replace it still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:57 AM
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is that all you have to say? I've wasted my time. But to comment on this i don't care about relationship with anyone who would think of me as interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:46 PM
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sure, man, whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:44 PM
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Cool, so now lets get back to your point of "women who are actually into...."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:46 PM
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What a weird logic jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:45 PM
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"The amount of good men heavily outweigh amount of women who are potentially good. The good in this context is being a good partner." - you don't know that simply because you don't date men. And i can't really say it's the other way around because i don't date women. Then you write about your impression of women, and okay, i can't argue because i don't date women and you might be right, or might be selection bias, i don't know. What i will argue is with that: The situation will not change unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:44 PM
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Everything to absolve men of their agency? Yes, it's legit for women to leave, if they chose so. It's also legit for them to do it as a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:26 PM
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well, dude, it's hard to be into some guy who sucks at sex. I had fucked once a guy who was 10/10 but in sex....he was extraordinary in how bad he was. Didn't care about him since. So no, i'll better try to find someone who is good already or at least shows potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:25 PM
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Then guys should choose better. Why do they choose women who don't like sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:20 PM
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I'm mostly agreeing and adding my opinion how stupid this fixation on position numbers is. I fucked a guy who were decent size but i couldn't do half of the positions because of the curve of his dick. I talked to men in my community, and they tell me that they can do things with me that they can't do with others because of sensitivity issue, and i'm sure it's vice versa, because i don't like everything. And there are so many things to consider. As you've said - height difference, curve of the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:12 PM
1

Nice try, Jack Daniel's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:03 PM
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Yes, to an extent. For men it means they should be more extroverted and sexual but not in a creepy way, for example. They should be charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:58 PM
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Actually it's weird. There are no set manual and checklists on what you should be able to do with a person. Sometimes you have to work around height difference, some people are more flexible than others, some are stronger. Not every man can pull me up and hold me and fuck me holding my weight, but that's not criteria for having a good sex. People are different, and hell, i can't even find two guys who would kiss the same. This is such unsensitive take, like nothing matters, only measurements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:57 PM
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I'll let you in on a secret, you also need one for hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:54 PM
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When men don't have attractive personality, looks are the only thing that can compensate, and any man who is fixated solely on looks it telling. I will die on that hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:47 PM
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We're not on the same side of media. I'm on the side where everyone fell in love with him and started to find him hot in a matter of two days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:46 PM
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You're simply wrong. I fucked below average penises. I'm well aware that not all positions are available. And that still doesn't prompt me to ask for dick pic before hookup in 90% of the cases. Because it's not that important. I wouldn't have 10 positions, but 1 good one is great if the guy can fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:42 PM
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what do you want to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:39 PM
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none. western men are better. others are too problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:05 PM
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"What non-western men are preferable (in totality) to Western Men" - none. i don't see myself dating any non western men, and i see many issues culture-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:01 PM
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Agency of men, until they are lonely and cry for women to change their standards and start liking sex with them without any effort from their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:34 PM
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Both have agency. Women choose to do it and see it as a chore. Men who complain about should become better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:19 PM
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Or maybe men should get better at sex so women won't see it as a chore. I don't know why you blame women for your lack of competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:12 PM
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I know people who watched anime 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:46 PM
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That might be true, but that's one anecdote that does nothing to the pattern i've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:04 PM
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And i think you still missed the point. Or you're telling me that men don't want to date for relationships universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:08 AM
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I mean it in a nicest way possible, but you're brainwashed. You think that women think of men as lesser (when i said i don't, literally my first comment), you think that women want to date only your image of top 5%, which is seriously far away from reality, and you think that women want to isolate themselves. This is just wild takes, and feels like someone feeding you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:32 AM
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You: "why do you care that men don't respect you". Me: "i want to peacefully coexist with men" You: "fuck off, isolate all women" Me: "You want to hate me so much?" You: "How is this shitty?" Gee, i don't know, what a mystery. "I am literally encouraging women to solely date tall, fit, well-off men" - i will decide on ly own who to date, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:16 AM
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Not a debate. Looks post will be removed. Maybe she is friendly and you have big tits fetish (as you've admitted before) so you're biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:11 AM
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You're entitled to your feelings, and i do understand that it is hard. And you're right, that i can't tell you how to feel or deal with this (aside from keep it in legal boundaries, sorry, men have taught me that i have to specify) I want to argue that women don't deal with that "general disgust" as you've put it. Men like to talk about women as something they would use (yes, something) and they hate the idea to connect with a woman or (oh horror) marry her. Ball and chain jokes. Whipped jokes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:05 AM
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"Go to female doctor, female cop, and a women-only workplace. Segregate completely." - basically you want to hate me so much that you want me to restructure society and isolate all women from you instead of extending basic human decency. I'll watch men who like not all men me ignore that comment. I will also watch men who "i like women, i want women, they don't want me" ignore it too. "But why? Unless he’s in the top 1%," - Oh sweetie, i know that big muscly men like to play experts, but they kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:53 AM
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"Are women inherently superior to men?" - No "why do women care whether men respect them or not" - they care because they want relationship with men. They also care because it influences their career and whatnot. "Should a man’s opinion and thoughts and respect essentially be moot" - not if it influences her life. I don't care if you personally don't respect me. But when i come to a doctor and they will tell me that i'm imagining my pain, or when i come to a police and they tell me that i wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:27 AM
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"Yes, I am using sex as the reward here" - and that's my point. It depends on what is your purpose. If you pretend to be someone you're not, you can get sex more easily, okay, but with who and to what end? If you want to just have sex - okay, but that's not what dating is for everyone. If you want relationships then how getting sex will help? To illustrate my point, i'm poly, and that's not for everyone, like not at all. You will meet me, you'll lie to me that you're fine, and then you'll get se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:23 AM
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I said it mostly because it's not contradiction, meaning it's not an opposite skill for what you need in relationship. It's another skill, yes, i don't think you need it in relationship (at least nothing comes to mind), but it's not opposite. I do agree that shy guys or men who don't want to cause discomfort will avoid doing that, but i think that cold approaches not that successful of a method to cry over it. And then you say that men who will approach will win, but that's isn't so black and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:53 AM
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Cold approaches. When women talk about it, most of the time they are against it not because of the fact that man cold approached her, but because of HOW he approached her. That's what women talk about when they point out how men are inconsiderate and make them feel scared. But since men don't care, it evolved into "don't approach us at all if you can't do it as civilized human". It could be selection bias, i, for example not a big texter at all. But to actually prove your point, that women want …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:07 AM
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Yeah, yeah, men are innocent and women do that out of the blue. Men don't put any expectations on men /'s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:40 AM
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your mistake is that you don't look deep enough. women are "repelled" because there is gender expectation on men. and that gender expectation on men is placed on them by patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:42 PM
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and why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:37 PM
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and why is that??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:33 PM
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Oh, i'm not against it at all. I'm against portraying it as good and "helping" average guy. It's just selfish and trying to use any advantage you have, nothing bad about it, but don't pretend you're some savior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:30 PM
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What a stupid rule. If he isn't a chad he obviously didn't talk to women, didn't they know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:04 PM
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so where lets say....vientamees man should go?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:03 PM
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Oh for fucks sake - go for it if you want, who is stopping you. But what average guy in those countries should do? Seems like you're taking away his chances. Poor guy. So unfair. But women to blame, because of course it's always women's fault in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:57 PM
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It didn't help. Well nothing i can do, i did explain you the logic as i would a 5 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:20 PM
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No, it's more like "people who have children contribute to society" "so you're saying that childless people don't???" You "that is what she said". No, that's not. But i guess i have to spell it out for someone who isn't used to logic. It's not the only possible contribution but it is a contribution. Red is a color. That doesn't mean there are no other colors, or that blue isn't a color. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:06 PM
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"there is NO way to EVER find out someone's body count or even estimate it" - i mean if you estimate something like 2-8 you will be right in most cases, so there is. "there are NO clues whatsoever" - i mean there are clues if a person is really a slut, like really a slut. Or maybe i just see it, i don't know. but to guess if there will be 2 or 5 - i don't see how. Or 20 or 30. same thing. "NOBODY asks about it" - happens pretty rarely, but yeah, happens. "even if they did you could always just L…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:03 PM
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I do understand your argument, but have you seen bodies of hunters? There is no possible way to actually determine that by picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:37 PM
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Also stereotypes in that case are not the truth. It's just an image of ideal that people "should" aspire to be. So we can say that men are born to lead, but were they? There were leaders, of course. Just as there were losers, whiners, scientists, and just your average Joe's who just wanted to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:17 PM
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What confuses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:08 PM
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Holy f that is a collection of stereotypes....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:07 PM
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Exactly. I'm not surprized that non westerm men with their culture don't find me attractive. Of course not, and thank god, that's really a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:53 PM
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non western men talk about western dating from the pov of western men......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:39 PM
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Tell me you don't understand patriarchy without telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:08 PM
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You faced the point and missed it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:05 PM
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Well considering that men supress their emotions due to partiarchy, or are unable to communicate about feelings in a healthy manner due to partiarchy....i would say it's relevant. At least sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:04 PM
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Well if it's already at the point of there no women, then i guess it's on men to rethink it. But yes, it's men and women who led to this issue. It's just that even when it's this critical men double down
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:30 PM
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Yes, and it's not the only horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:38 AM
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There are people who critique women for being single (starting with her parents usually). Have you heard about "the wall", "crazy cat lady" and so on? There are people who view this woman as someone broken and subhuman. It's empowering only in some circles, and it's empowering because before women didn't have this luxury, we're probably second generation that can afford it, and first that can actually choose it and choose friend who will support us. We remember out mothers and families of our pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:08 AM
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Oh yeah, another stupid defense. "you got hurt, other men are great". Well show it. Show other men who call out those "assholes" as another guy called them. Show other men who are against rape. Show me that it's me who is biased and there isn't a pattern of men being silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:58 AM
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And that is always the defense. I observe patterns. Somehow when i say something unflattering about men or any observations there are many men who argue with me, and claim "well i'm not arguing with every stupid point", but there are NO man who argues with those "stupid points". I see it - i call it out. You can live in your illusions about men being protectors, men being against rape, men being against body shaming etc, but i need actually men to act like it to believe in it. So far all i see i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:42 AM
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I read about China, how in the rural area they are more conservative (as i guess everywhere), so for the decades they allowed only for boys to be born. So those villages are populated mostly by men, women who were born there fled as if there is no tomorrow (understandably). And the men actually well want to have sex, and children, and family. They have to "buy" a chineese bride, and it's too expensive, basically 10 year salary or so. So they "buy" (or really buy, there are slave trade there) vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:36 AM
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But that will make you a cuck! the horror. Just fuck fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:23 AM
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True. I think men should avoid women altogether. Fuck other men!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:11 AM
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Common suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:02 AM
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Yeah, men want to believe in that too, just as men are against rape, men are protectors etc. No, they are not. Those men leave a comment here and comment there, and it's supported by other men or they are just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:02 AM
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"That's not going to work. It repulses women automatically when men band together to hold hands and attempt their own version of that. It has always failed." - mostly because what unites men is hate for women. So women and men who actually like women will be opposed to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:43 AM
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Honestly when i read what men say about women i feel as an animal at the auction, and that makes me want to stay away from them even more. Ironically they still want me. They just want me to think that i'm so beneath them and they made me a favor for me to never ask anything of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:18 AM
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...hair it too short/too long/untamed/wrong color, thighs too thick/too thin/wrong shape, body is too fat/too thin/not fit enough/too muscly, eyebrows are too thin/too thick, teeth not white enough/have gaps/not straight enough, double chin, weird nose shape, the waist isn't thin enough compared to the rest of the body, ribs are too visible, belly isn't flat enough, feet are too small/too big.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:13 AM
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1) it's a look post, so it will be removed anyway 2) i'm not sure what do you want to argue here. You think women are not being criticized? I collect critiques about my body as a trophy. But since i was a teen i saw men commenting on women and there is always something: wrong eyelids, wrong tits shape, wrong nipples shape/color, wrong vulva shape/color, arms too thin, arms too fat, ass wrong shape/small/big, skin isn't ideal, skin wrong shade, lips wrong shape, not full enough, eyes too close/to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:56 AM
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What is the question? Is it used? I suppose so? Do men not like it - i think so, it's men. Should it be used? That depends i guess. Therapy isn't about saying something that another person will like, it's about solving some issues, ideally. So depends on the issue and how it can be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:48 AM
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happens when you write flat female characters and flat relationships with them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:06 AM
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What kind of survey is that?? "We collected the data and found out that women prefer X, but we chose only women who preferred X"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:34 AM
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New headline for daily thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:27 PM
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be for real
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:35 PM
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And they should despise men who won fights, because it's easy for men, it's just shows that they are trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:28 PM
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Exactly. It's not clean experiment. Clean would be posting that they need a friend as a woman and as a man ideally in a same space or similar. When i see "i want to talk about books" it doesn't call for any sympathy, it just a persona who wants to talk about books and depending on what in into i might want to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:56 PM
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Right now men get basically marriage without making it legal. They get to have sex, to live with a woman, some have kids, and so on. It's marriage. The only thing that they don't do is make it legal and face the consequences. (i'm not pro-marriage at all, by the way, not against it either). Women who start to create family without marriage put themselves into really vulnerable position often without any safety measures outside of trusting a guy. and since men are infamous with their sympathy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:20 PM
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1) i'm not lost, i'm trying to understand your incomplete arguments. Explain how having children isn't productive for society 2) now you are lost. They might want to whatever, but being selfish and want to be congratulated doesn't mean it's not contribution to society. 3) like every invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:38 PM
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Productive for who? And why does it matter if it's selfish? People do many selfish things that others can benefit from
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:28 PM
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"i like strawberry" - "Are you suggesting that people who like watermelon are disgusting" Read what i wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:14 PM
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What is weird is that i agree with general message, but it's so hateful at the same time, that i feel weird agreeing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:05 PM
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Then pay attention to context of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:51 PM
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If you are not looking to be valued by society then why are you asking about it? Live your life as you want, and that's it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:39 PM
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I literally have no idea how to answer this question. There is no manual. Especially since everything depends on circumstances we're in. But generally speaking i think if i like the guy and he likes me back and i suspect this, then i think we already talking and flirting and things are escalating, because that's how it is i guess? So yes, i expect him to react to my flirting, i expect for communication to deepen and intensify, like i expect expression of his interest and reciprocity when i expre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:37 PM
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Sounds a bit like magic. "It only works if you believe..."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:21 PM
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you want society to value you. What for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:21 PM
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I never said you owe me anything. You wanted to be appreciated. But for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:41 AM
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If i were a man i wouldn't want to marry. What for? Right now men can get everything when they just live with a woman, what purpose there is to make it legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:17 AM
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you can ignore my comment just as you ignored my questions, I want to show other people stupidity of that argument Interestingly enough when society need contribution you switched the word to system. But society IS the system. The whole OP and conversation was "how can I appease the system so it would appreciate me" and when you were told how you basically switched to disgust with the system. Either you like society or not, but that shit won't roll. You don't get to ask people what do they want,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:36 AM
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Because that ensures that society gets workers, tax payers, someone who will pay for elderly care etc. What an odd question to ask. No children = no society. But if all of then isn't contribution in your opinion, what DO you contribute then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:41 AM
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"Getting married and providing for a woman isn't contributing to society." ..." and getting children" - yes. But what DO you contribute then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:35 AM
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having children is. but what DO you contribute then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:17 AM
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I'm curious about this too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:07 AM
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Of course: "Who tf cares whether you believe that or not?" - argument either sound or not. I don't care about your ideal world and how fast do you think you should get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:58 AM
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"Who tf cares whether you believe that or not?" - argument either sound or not. I don't care about your ideal world and how fast do you think you should get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:51 AM
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If women argued like men: "Every man should adopt the child! They don't do it because they are too ego centered and narcissistic and have overinflated ego!! Society suffers, we need to save it, men should start adopting children! They are just too picky and want them later and their own, with a woman who will care for them, fucking gold diggers. They need to care for a child on their own, like nature prescribed!! Where all the providers! Don't they know women want providers??!! Is it so hard?? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:18 AM
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There are some men who justify slut shaming by "it's easy for women it's hard for men". So are you going to tell me that if that was easy for men then it should be shameful and you'd see them as used cars? Do you expect anyone to believe that? Do you see chads as used cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:58 AM
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You haven't described anything. I showed what i mean and you didn't. You simply jumped to insulting me. Well, as i've said ironically typical. Hard to have conversation with a man and not be insulted in first 10 minutes if there is something of a substance being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:34 PM
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And instead of illustrating your point you jumped to insults. It's ironically typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:29 PM
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"Literally the objectified" - i don't see it to that extend. Men are not compared to the objects, women care more about experience with a man than owning one, and in general they are treated as people. At least i as i see it. "fight to be taken seriously" - in dating? Please. Men are so used to ignore women, or think that they are not "logical", "just mimic true thought process", "not smart enough" etc, and lets not forget competition for the title of the "man in the house" that they fight woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:20 PM
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What? Guys can say yes despite not liking a woman. that's experience of women. But i guess you see the error in your ways and wanted to deflect because i don't see the answer to my question. Don't bother, i don't expect anything interesting or honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:14 PM
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What is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:00 PM
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Depends. I don't have rules against it, but i don't have rules pro that too. I had hookups where i fucked them on a third date simply because it was more pleasant for me. I know it's hard to imagine that i'm not vending machine, but alas, i'm a creature of moods and desires and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:43 PM
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Another example of black and white thinking. I am a slut. I have enough experience to make most men here faint. And i care and not care about slut shaming at the same time. I don't care if you slut shame me. I don't care if some stranger does. I would care if my landlord or colleague would, simply because that means more likely trouble for me. I'm not ashamed, i would think they are the assholes, but i would care simply because those are people who can influence my life. I'm not advertising that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:39 PM
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I don't really know that much about men's dating experience (just as men don't really know much about mine, but that never stops them). Safety would be the obvious. More pleasure during sex too. During dating i wouldn't be expected to take the mental load of managing them or take extra house chores. No pregnancy fear. I will be taken more seriously and i wouldn't need to fight to be listened to. I wouldn't be objectified and my pain would be a dealbreaker. that's on the shallow level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:35 PM
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"Id argue that 9 times out of 10 if a guy wants to sleep with you than he actually likes you." - based on what? It fascinates me, when men like to believe in some image of other men without any experience. Ironically they also can see some contradictions, and in another debate where the question would be phrased differently, there will be many who would say that men pump and dump and you'd agree. But when women say this - it's not allowed apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:31 PM
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Many men were virgins at 22. It's not really that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:34 PM
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You don't fuck unselected men, but you do had slutty past, and that is hurtful i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:33 PM
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You missed the point. What you said is right, but there is another side to how boys are raised, what Lilith called "coddling". It is well observed that mothers can create unhealthy attachment to her sons, and i'm not talking about sexual stuff, but relationships. We all saw "mommy's boy" and mothers in law who compete with their daughters in law for attention of their son. It's not good, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. But there are undertones that those boys/men are the prize no matter what…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:28 PM
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I think age is relevant too. It's one thing when the guy is in his 40 and dates around his age. Another thing for 25 and around his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:09 PM
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what men fail to understand about this argument is that nobody tells you to fuck other dudes. but if you want validation - why not get it? you certainly blame women for getting it when they are not interested in anything. but men don't. and then they claim to be so desperate, as starving person....but picky starving person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:30 PM
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be better then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:54 PM
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Yes, there is the point of introduction but that's not what defines cold vs warm approach, and pretending that men are talking about what i described as "cold approach" is simply obtuse and trying to water down a topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:41 PM
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I don't think in terms of "his overall desirability or SMV". But i don't know what you want to hear. Of course children are huge factor in dating, is this really news? And then for some women it would be dealbreaker, and for some depends on other factors. Isn't this obvious? Like what answer did you expect? -5 points to your stats or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:23 PM
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It's not cold approach if we have something in common and there is something we can already share. Then also it's not "cold approach" if i don't just out of the blue approach a man with romantic intentions, it's exactly warm approach when i build some rapport and get to know him, and try to blend in some community
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:38 AM
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Yeah, what a mystery, because before that social circles were formed solely by cold approaches? I don't know, i found mine through hobbies and shared values. When there was an interesting conversation that led to another that led to introduction to more people. Then there are also.....school and work and uni, controversial, i know, no one meets there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:14 AM
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"Warm approach through social circle is just not efficient," - less efficient than cold approaches? You want me to believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:34 AM
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did you skip entry submission and that's why you're so tense? I have some permissions left from the last meeting i managed, i can give them to you if you keep ot a secret
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:19 AM
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Do you have monthly meeting with appointed women's representative that gives away approaches permissions? Do you have a week of competition prior to that? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:07 AM
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I never argued that human's mating systems are evidence against biology (tho in some cases i think it is). But i used biology in context of OP, which tried to spin off his preferences that are largely shaped by culture as innate and biological. If you're arguing about that, then it's obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:09 AM
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I thought it was "women are picky because they have too many guys approaching her". Apparently not in this debate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:41 AM
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Why men are so fixated on cold approaches? It was never a good method to meet someone, and if someone actually managed, it was more exception to a rule. It baffles me how you so angry that women don't like to be cold approached, when it's not even effective in the first place. Feels like it's more about control and how dare women put some boundaries about what you can't do to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:29 AM
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"Anthropologists have documented a wide range of mating systems throughout history, including long term pair bonds, polygyny, and more flexible arrangements." - i would agree with that. Even culturally there are many variants. "The idea that humans universally formed 4 year relationships before moving on" - maybe you didn't understand me, or i was unclear, but i didn't mean that everyone did that. I said that it's another practice, but i don't think that it was "natural" in a way that everyone d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:26 PM
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They want kids just like children want pets. But with children it's somewhat okay (depends on their age), with grown ass men, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:22 PM
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QfW Do you see what red pill call high value men as actually someone you would highly value?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:21 PM
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That depends. "The only reason a marriage contract exists is to protect them in the event of separation" - no, not the only reason. Some marry for immigrational purposes. Some marry for tax benefits. Some marry for other legal benefits that married couples get automatically. So it's only hypocritical IF they marry with a thought about security in mind. But that being said, i actually agree with a main point. I think that many people do marry to create some sort of legal contract. And prenup is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:42 PM
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Could be, i don't know. It is a good question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:29 PM
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I know that doctors are dismissive of everyone, but studies show that women spend more years undiagnosed, so they take men seriously way quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:02 PM
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"there is always a guy out there who wants to sleep with her 24/7, her paying for a escort is useless, she gets it for free" - I am a slut, so i think my experience counts. Yeah, there always guys who would fuck. And? There is not enough guys who i would ENJOY. People pay not for sex per se. They pay for pleasure. And another piece of truth is that i would've paid for sex if the sex i paid for would've been good. "in the history of humanity no women on earth payed for sex" - tell me you haven't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:38 PM
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If you want to dismiss experience do it, I can't stop you. But that's pathetic to demand peer reviewed studies on every social behavioral pattern and pretend like if they aren't provided then observation are not valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:44 PM
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Well I don't know what will be the sourse. Even science takes data from people's experiences. Where do you want your data to come from I have no idea, not sure if I want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:40 PM
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Didn't I say? Source : other women who tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:34 PM
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At the same time a red pill man on ppd: <image> Why don't women want someone like him? He sounds like a catch
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:01 AM
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Just stumbled across this conversation <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:01 AM
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Yes, and also possibilities and independence and protection. I'm truly happy i didn't grow up in a time when my parent couldn't legally leave me alone, i feel a bit horrified thinking that children don't get alone time at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:50 AM
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I think 4 is more realistic, at 3-4 years children are capable of doing work. In some societies they shepherd already. So i think it's around this age. but of course it's not set in stone and some couples might take 6 years, some 3. Childhood is also pretty recent invention. I had an old movies marathon recently, and i saw children there working. Like 7yo boy working. It's unimaginable in the world now, which is a good thing but also a shame too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:36 AM
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This is low effort, but i will comment simply because i recently was on a lecture about human behavior. Monogamy as we know it now is kind of recent in human history. Marriage was needed as political and economical alliance. Before that or in other societies humans mostly practiced serial monogamy. Men and women became couple for about 4 +- years, enough to produce a child, to care for them when they are the most vulnerable, and when a child stops being helpless the couple usually separated and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:17 AM
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don't cut in line, wait for your appointed distribution officer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:54 AM
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but what was he wearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:53 AM
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That's not nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:52 AM
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I always feel sorry for men with that kind of worldview, because to believe that women are "used" after sex mean that any time you have sex with a woman you ruin her, and that means you're so innately horrible that you make another person worse simply for interacting with you. that level of safe hate is miserable to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:43 AM
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Interesting defense. Would've worked if i didn't have interaction outside, but i do have experience with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:13 AM
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prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:04 AM
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Interestingly i saw a lot of times men claim how with the internet they now see what women actually like, what men they go for and so on, and how illusion fell. (good riddance if you ask me). But they never think that women face similar thing. With the internet we now see what men think. how they talk about us. We see that we're not alone in our struggles and other women also face similar things. We see men, and many just don't want those men anymore. So men complain that they now see women for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:02 AM
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por que no los dos?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:46 AM
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"Meanwhile even small groups get arrested for protesting for palestine" - fully support that. "Whose ultimate goal is to neuter Irans progress" - and what progress is that? Progress in bombing everyone around? Fully support neutering that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 AM
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I don't disagree. I think your friends complaints are valid, because that happens to any woman, no matter what kind of profile she has. But your argument is valid too, because there are decent men out there, and if she wants to attract them she has to appeal to them. Same with texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:31 AM
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and what did it do? Seriously. i see many protests like this. When Ukraine was invaded in lots of countries were pro ukrainian protests, but what changed? nothing. This is just glorified party.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:44 AM
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Em, yes, it does? Just like any experience does. You find something that you like and want it more. You find something that you don't like. You find something that you didn't know about and now you do. (honestly you can think i'm talking about food here and the meaning will not change, that's how experience in general work). "do exes and past experiences really shape your sexual preferences that much?" - they can. "Can a person’s preferences change a lot after a relationship, or do they usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:26 AM
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Ah, sorry, should've recognized that it's pointless. Well another person to the list of no reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:52 PM
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I agree. so will you tell the other person you were wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:26 PM
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i'm using your logic. so either admit that you just tried to shut her up, or you have 0 knowledge and experience and can't talk about issue. it's either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:11 PM
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i mean if i like him i like him. it's just harder to meet me irl. but there is no check box about how should we meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:00 PM
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Is this gooner? I think it's more like romance. anyway, i have the same issue, but he is right, women aren't the target audience because not many will pay for it. So i look for games that i can like. Like with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:28 PM
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Alright (there was a joke where i posted image of fleshlight, but it was removed by reddit)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:26 PM
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"overwhelmingly women with their hypochondria tendencies" - i honestly can stop reading you right here. And i pity every woman who will end up with a man who treat her this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:12 PM
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You just discarded "i know other women" as argument. then you can't use "i know other women" too. same goes "i read what they are saying". So basically your experience is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:04 PM
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20 hours per month....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:57 PM
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Do they? Did you count food? Spend on what? Because in feminists spaces food become a viral topic, meaning that 50/50 is usually woman paying for herself and about twice as much for her man. I saw a woman doing spending comparison, and with a man she becomes poorer. I only remember about food but there are other things she mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:54 PM
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5 hours per week is huge difference actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:49 PM
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And yours is 0 then? Since we discard "i know women" as any experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:43 PM
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