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| – | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Interesting, it might really be something that is purely culture-specific then rather than evolutionary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:56 AM |
| 0 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?Damn I'm really offended by that one! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Having casual sex will help men have better relationshipsI see. So in your experience, most men are asexual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:35 PM |
| -10 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?This is what women bring to the table in 2026: - Pussy - Tits - Ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Having casual sex will help men have better relationshipsOK so you disagree with the statement that "the vast majority of men desire sex"? If you disagree with this statement, suppose you woke up tomorrow in an alternate universe where the statement was true. How would you know you were in that universe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Having casual sex will help men have better relationshipsSome small number of men may tire of fucking women they've already fucked or if they are stressed out by other things. But the vast majority of men desire sex and seek status specifically so they can get sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?In what culture were big boobs not considered attractive? My understanding is that the male attraction to big boobs is universal and evolved, as it is a marker of better milk production for nurturing infants. Also, the article doesn't seem to show the actual study where East Asians preferred smaller boobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Having casual sex will help men have better relationshipsMen care about sex, not status. Status is only a means to get sex. If men could get sex without having to worry about status the way women can, why would they bother with status? What evolutionary benefit would it serve? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Having casual sex will help men have better relationshipsI do think men who can't get casual should at least sleep with escorts so they end up marrying someone they truly love rather than out of desperation for sex. Do women here agree with me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 01:43 PM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).I don't know, I'm not an expert on the biological differences between the sexes or on the mathematics of sexual economics and its impact on a nation's industrial productivity. But there are specialists on these topics who are better equipped to deal with the dating crisis than the legions of low-IQ feminist scholars who have no formal scientific training who are spreading their misandrist ideology in university campuses. As an example, take the researcher Anne DeLessio-Parson. She is a professor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:38 AM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).They would first research the genetics of men and women, develop a mathematical model, formulate the corresponding optimization problem that optimizes for global well-being and then solve the optimization problem. The issue is that right now there are many low-IQ non-scientist feminists in charge of these gender and women's studies departments, so they are infested with many ideological feminists trying to spread the woke mind virus rather than than scientists and problem-solvers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 09:37 AM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).That's really all I think is needed. The academics could solve the rest of the problems. We just need to give them a platform (and funding) to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:52 AM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).As a start, we should either abolish all women's studies departments in universities, or add an equal number of professorships and faculty positions for men's studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 08:22 PM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).What makes something excessive? Who makes the decision and with what algorithm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 08:18 PM |
| – | A man without female friends is a red flagI've had several female friends ask me for various favors like helping them move. I have no desire to ask them to help me move since they are physically too weak to be of help in this regard, so me helping them move would be a one-sided gesture where they are exploiting my physical strength for their own benefit. That's not the type of "friendship" I want. With male friends, even if they asked me to help them move, I at least know I can count on them when I need help moving. So if me obtaining t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 07:45 PM |
| – | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?I mean he can't hit on women in public while he is in with his wife. If he hits on his co-workers who knows he is married, they would just think he's a sleazebag and not be interested. He could make a profile on the apps, but then any woman who recognizes him from the apps would know that he is basically cheating on his wife and might tell her. So there are a myriad of barriers that would make it extremely difficult for a married man to monkeybranch. On the other hand, a married woman can just g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 07:31 PM |
| – | AF/BB doesn't exist and is out datedI agree that the beta could still be having sex with the woman, it could even be at the same or even greater frequency than what the alpha was doing. The distinction boils down to what was required to obtain the sex. The alpha relied on his genetics, whereas the beta relied on betabuxxing + jestermaxxing. The beta had to do these things in order to compensate for his inferior genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?How would he find an opportunity while he is already in a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 06:35 PM |
| 2 | AF/BB doesn't exist and is out datedThey are because they have to be attractive. There are studies that show that women care more about looks for short-term than long-term relationships, meaning that for long-term relationships, many women are willing to take a man who is not as attractive if he checks other boxes like emotional intelligence, financial stability, and shared values. These don't matter for short-term encounters, where it's just looks and charisma. It's still the most important feature, as the man getting casual sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 03:14 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?Sorry I didn't mean that as an insult. I sympathize with femcels. I'm just curious if you are one, that's all. It's fine if you are, and also fine if you aren't. I agree that men monkey branch although it's harder to do because it requires the man in a relationship to be actively approaching other women. It's much harder for men to monkey branch than it is for women because men generally have to be active (i.e. the ones making the first move). But as for being a betabuxx, I think it's fine to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 03:04 PM |
| – | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?Are you a femcel by any chance? You post a lot like one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?A woman will never know for sure whether or not she is a placeholder gf. The only way to know for sure is to withhold sex until marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Women being sexually selective with their own partners makes almost no sense.What if a man paid for first dates with previous partners, but refused to do so with current partners? Would that be a reasonable sexual boundary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.There's no need for personal attacks. I'm sure you're smart enough to make arguments without attacking me. The gay men argument is a fair point which I already brought up, but I suspect this is an outlier. Homosexuality and asexuality are prevalent in less than 7% of most populations, but in these cases, I would actually agree that these gay men are like the women who enter marriage for the non-sexual reasons we discussed earlier. I thought I already mentioned lavender marriages in a previous re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Consider the following statement: "I am sufficiently sexually interested in my spouse to pursue intercourse with him/her." The above statement had to be true for all fathers throughout history. This is essentially a tautology, for how could they father children without engaging in the biological act which produces children? But it isn't true for all mothers. It could have easily been false for many mothers. Now I do admit men marry for reasons other than sex or children. But most humans througho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Those reasons also apply to men, but I think a man's sexual desire is required for him to want to marry a woman. I don't think this is true of women however. If a man marries a woman to whom he is not physically attracted, no children will result from that marriage because he would not be able to sustain an erection long enough to ejaculate inside of and impregnate her. A woman can feel no sexual desire toward a man and still marry him for the reasons I mentioned before, and children will still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Unsuccessful men on the dating regard should just accept it and continue with their livesBecause reproduction is a biological imperative for the vast majority of organisms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Most marriages that ever occurred throughout history were not due to the woman sexually desiring the man. This is still true in most marriages in the developing world, and probably also for a non-trivial fraction of marriages in the West as well. Women can marry for many reasons not related to physical sexual desire: - Attraction to other parts of the man, such his voice, scent, personality, intelligence etc. (but not his physical appearance) - Financial dependence on the man, or desire for even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:07 PM |
| 6 | It’s unrealistic to expect men to find romance by just “living their lives.”Because I wanna watch a big booty bouncing on my dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?It kinda would turn me on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Why don't unattractive men want to completely eradicate their libido?The issue is not libido, which can be solved via porn/escorts. The issue is the middle row of Maslow's hierarchy, which is love, affection, intimacy etc. You can't medicate those away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:48 PM |
| – | AFBB ignores actual biologyThe issue isn't dead bedrooms. It's mostly about retroactive jealousy and the feeling of being "settled" for, and also the feeling that the man had to slave away and improve himself until he was finally "worthy' of being with the woman during which time she got plowed by lots of random hot men who gave zero fucks about her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:44 PM |
| – | AFBB ignores actual biologyThe woman's sexual peak is irrelevant to men, it's her sexual attractiveness and fertility window that matters, and that peaks in her 20s, not her 40s and this is true across all cultures. If a woman sleeps with hot men who won't commit to her in her 20s, and then settles down with a more stable but less attractive man later on, then this is just proof that AFBB is correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What fraction of men do you think experience genuine sexual desire from a woman at least once during his life? What fraction of men do you think are capable of experiencing it?Do you believe most men worldwide are sexually desired by their wives? If so, do you have any evidence of this? If you went to a random village in China and asked a random woman whether she finds her husband sexually attractive, with what probability would she say yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What fraction of men do you think experience genuine sexual desire from a woman at least once during his life? What fraction of men do you think are capable of experiencing it?I think the vast majority of men throughout history were only able to reproduce because their wives needed them to financially provide. I don't think most men have the genetics to be desired by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 06:50 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Most incels I know experience hostility or apathy from female therapists. Unless there is research specifically showing that female therapists have equally as good outcomes as male therapists when it comes to incels specifically, I think incels are better served by totally avoiding female therapists. The non-incel research you cited is largely irrelevant as far predicting the outcomes of incel therapy is concerned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 04:51 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?What responsibility do those in power have for the genetic deficiencies of others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:04 AM |
| – | Would you marry women who have plastic surgery?Natural big tits > Fake big tits > Flat chest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:59 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Is there any research showing whether male or female therapists are more likely to empathize with incels? If the answer is male therapists, why would an incel waste his time and money on a therapist that is less likely to offer empathy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?I guess it makes sense that the woman doesn't get to see her own booty being pounded during sex, so evolution would have no reason to make her be turned on by it. Got me there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:28 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?I've been doing therapy since forever Are you a therapist yourself, or a patient of therapy? If you're a female patient with a female therapist, of course there would be no reason for patriarchy to be brought up. But if you're a male patient with a female therapist, and the female therapist is a strong feminist, it could easily come up in passing. Therapy is heavily biased in favor of certain groups. This is a well-documented fact. For example, many white American therapists often struggle to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:16 AM |
| -7 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?Why would you think women would like that LOL How would I know what a woman will like without asking, seeing as I am not one myself? I like sex, and sex is required to reproduce. Therefore, in the absence of any other info, it seems reasonable for me to assume that women would like it too. How am I supposed to know that the specific sight of a dick and a booty is not appealing to women, given that these actions enabled all humans to pass their genes on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:07 AM |
| -2 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?What's the issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 06:56 AM |
| -8 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?If I understand you correctly, the mere sight of a penis entering a vagina with his thighs smacking against the woman's booty and the man's ballsack smacking against her clit isn't enough to turn you on? Even if the man has a nice penis and the woman has a nice ass and a nice pussy, and assuming there is no audio, no shot of their face or other body parts? That's interesting, because I and a lot of other men would be hugely turned on by that. Thats not visual. Thats objectifying. I don't see why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 05:14 AM |
| -12 | Ladies, do you get aroused when watching mainstream porn like men do?If you see a porn scene with a big booty bouncing on a dick (with nothing else visible), would it turn you on? It's one of my favorite things to watch, so I'm curious if women enjoy it as much as men do. If women don't enjoy watching a booty bouncing on a dick as much as men do, then perhaps men really are more visual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:59 AM |
| 1 | A guy swiped 2 million times on Tinder and only got one unsuccessful date from it. That tells us alot about dating.Not to disagree with anything you said, but what exactly is bad about fish pics? If I saw a woman with a fish pic, I would think it was pretty cool and that we could probably go fishing together. Even if you don't like fishing, would it be due to animal rights concerns? If so, are you a vegetarian? If not, would pictures of cooked meat be as bad as pictures of caught fish? Or would it perhaps be due to viewing fishing as a low-status and perhaps low-IQ activity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:47 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSince women place a greater emphasis on looks than on other factors in hookups, and since women are on average more attractive than men, doesn't this confirm AFBB, i.e. women hookup up with Chads in their prime and then settling down with a more stable but less attractive male? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThis is a fair point, but I don't think anyone cares about anyone anymore, so it's kind of moot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itHmm, I think it might be skewed upwards by older women who tend to be heavier. Is there statistics on the weight distribution of dating-aged women, i.e. 18-34 year old women? 174 lbs is insane, I am a 5'9 man and only 145 lbs. Most of the women I see my age are in the 100-150 lb bracket, so it would surprise me if the average weight was truly that high! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI like chubbies, I got nothing wrong with them. I think men in general usually like them for sex, but not for relationships, but I could be wrong. It might be due to the fact that it's unhealthy and unsustainable. But I don't think your example is valid, because I don't think the average woman is chubby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIt's not the only factor, but there are many dealbreakers involving looks like height and race which can't be changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:36 AM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIs this really always true? If a Korean American man gets little to no attention in America but a lot more in Korea, where he might share more values with the women and where he isn't at an automatic disadvantage due to his race, is it not possible for him to receive genuine desire in this situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI would add that even if they (men in western country) are non-white, going to their country of origin can get them better odds at not facing racial discrimination than in the West, where they are at an automatic disadvantage due to not being white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itMost countries on earth have more women than men. Because men be dyin alot. This isn't true. For 18-34 year olds, there are more men worldwide than women. You can thank China and India for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThose men can go for American women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIs the short nerdy guy in your example also chubby? If not, how is it hypergamous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 06:07 AM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itHow is it one's own actions to be born 5'3 and ethnic and growing up in an abusive household? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThe vast majority of humans on Earth did not marry for "genuine love". "Genuine love" as a concept has only really been relevant in Western industrialized and urbanized upper class societies and really only since the Victorian period of the British Empire when both industrialization and urbanization were changing the shape of European society and where "love" was a way for the upper classes to distinguish themselves from the masses. Most men throughout history married because they wanted sex, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 01:44 AM |
| 0 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticyou can't demand that you be the very best a woman has ever had AND whine that women have super high standards and won't take a chance on you. How do these two contradict each other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:42 AM |
| 3 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeThere is obviously going to be a stronger connection with a human woman, but a robot gf is still going to be more attractive than the type of woman an average man could get. I feel like that's pretty obvious, no? The robot gf would have a perfect body at the very least which the average woman would not have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 04:27 PM |
| 1 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchAre men who pay for dates less likely to resent women than men who prefer to go 50/50? Is this confirmed by your own anecdotal experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"What were the other sexual options, and in what societies did they prevail? Why are they no longer practiced in those societies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"By what species? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Putting in less effort in attracting women actually works.Anything that involves reducing or taming one's libido isn't an ideal solution because then it just means you won't enjoy sex as much. And not trying isn't really viable because as a man you have to approach and make the first move. So what exactly do you mean by less effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:50 PM |
| -1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?Most people would still view that as coercive because the choice isn’t between sex and no sex, it’s between sex and losing your job. You need a job to pay your palls. You don't need to be married to pay your bills. Marriage is optional and not required for survival. You can exit anytime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Why is it look down upon for a man to use his nationality to his advantage in dating? How is this different than other desirable traits?This isn't always true. A man can be perceived as being more exotic in one place and less exotic in another. For example, a Korean man is more likely to be successful in countries where K-pop is more popular. If he visits a country that has lots of K-pop fans and succeeds there, does it mean those fans only want his money? Also, a short man with a handsome face might be considered too short in a Nordic country, but tall enough in a South American country. Does it mean those South American women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:29 AM |
| -4 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?Why would this be slavery if the wife/husband can just file for divorce? In actual slavery/indentured servitude, there is no option to leave/exit the contract. This seems to me more like an extended form of prostitution if anything. I can actually see this being reasonable for marriages that come out of sugar relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?Would this be an issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:16 AM |
| -2 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?I mean it's not slavery if you can get divorced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:14 AM |
| 7 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?Seeing as over 0.5% of humans are descended from Genghis Khan, a man who was very reproductively successful, not because he got many women to say yes, but because he didn't have ears for the word 'no', this doesn't surprise me at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:14 AM |
| 3 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"women are there to be the ying to men's yang by making the sex happen in a more consentrated way, especially since pregnancy can happen with straight people. This would be fine in theory. In fact, it's called monogamy and was practiced throughout history under the institutions of religion and marriage. Now we don't have those things. So it's back to the Chad carousel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:11 AM |
| 7 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"So, if women allegedly always want "more" than what they are, would an average woman dating someone "in her league" always mean that she's settling? Yes, everyone settles. I want a harem of 1000 supermodels that are loyal to me. I can't have that. I have to settle. Is that somehow inadequate treatment for the man? Or is an average man getting average treatment from an average woman okay? Depends. Would the "average" gf be ok with the man simping over hot OF models, but not simping over his curre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:08 AM |
| 3 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.LL Surgery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:16 AM |
| 1 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.You can't adapt to your genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:10 AM |
| 1 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeI mean there are many levels to functioning like a human. Do you want the bot to cook and clean or listen to your problems or just be a fucktoy? If you just want a fucktoy that looks like a woman, and can make moaning sounds and support some movement and has skin whose texture closely resembles that of a woman, then I think the bots are getting there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 02:24 AM |
| 4 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeWhat do you mean? Once they are mass produced the average guy will be able to purchase and fuck one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 12:52 AM |
| – | Why do modern heterosexual relationships feel so empty? The growing resentment towards men is killing straight romanceWomen aren't trashing men in general. They're trashing men who are not Chads and men who aren't committing to them. If a man is both a Chad and willing to commit to and romance a woman, women wouldn't trash that man. They would adore him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Why is women's popular music so much more sexual than mens?Mozart's music isn't sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:46 PM |
| 11 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeAI is already the state-of-the-art tool in things like coding, personal assistants, tutoring, data analytics (and this is just a small subset of what it can do). I think it's only a matter of time before AI trickles its way into more personalized domains like friendship, therapy, and romance. For men in particular, I can see AI sex robots as essentially being a more realistic form of pornography, which already exists out there. The robots are more attractive than human women, and basically do wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:15 PM |
| 6 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeI think in some cases, the AI models are also just more attractive. They can make the AI models have the perfect boobs/butt/hair/lips etc that a real woman is unlikely to have, which is naturally going to appeal to a lot of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:10 PM |
| 1 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeAll the sources you listed are left-leaning. So obviously they are going to be pro-woman, and anti-men. It's really that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:06 PM |
| 17 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanI think he's saying for women their desirability scales more smoothly whereas for men it comes in the form of big spikes. Like when a man has a car vs not having a car, or a job vs not having a job, or hair vs not having hair. For women, the scaling is less binary and more smooth, and slight improvements in their physique lead to slight improvements in her SMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:28 PM |
| 2 | The entire strategy men are going for in life is to trade women like pokemon cards.Now that we no longer have enforced marriages This is thanks to second wave feminism, not thanks to men. So it's not that men have chosen this. Women chose feminism, and this is the male response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 07:00 AM |
| 2 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanI don't doubt, but is there is a source for that statistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:39 AM |
| -2 | You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of womenI strongly disagree. Many things in life are zero-sum, including access to jobs and access to women. Feminism means men have to compete with women for jobs, and with affirmative action policies currently in place, they actually have to outperform women to get the same job. Also, sexual freedom for women, combined with women's instinct for hypergamy means that women will just have casual with Chads and not not have children with their looksmatch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:16 PM |
| -1 | You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of womenWhy is that a bad reason to fight feminism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:53 PM |
| – | You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of womenJust because it is listed as a debate doesn't mean it isn't primarily directed at men. Men are the ones who have the most to gain from fighting feminism. Please use your brain a little. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 06:46 PM |
| – | You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of womenYou don't need to do anything. The post was directed as men. Can you read? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 04:22 PM |
| 4 | You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of womenI don't think he's asking you to do anything. He's just saying that men need to fight feminism, as they can't count on women to fight bad feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:36 AM |
| 4 | If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass.they are often perfectly content without a partner. Women are equally exhausted, especially when they can’t find men who have the emotional intelligence to actually step up and share the mental and domestic load. These two statements directly contradict each other. Are you content you can't find a man, or exhausted? I don't think you can be both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:05 PM |
| 6 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchIf the man offered to pay, and you then offered to split, and then he took you up on the offer to split, would that be less hot than if he insisted on paying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenSure that's fine, I'll do the same. Btw, you still haven't explained how ""stop focusing on dating and go outside and have fun." is supposed to be debate and not advice? Can you define advice and debate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:00 PM |
| 5 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI mean if you type nonsense, it's not unreasonable for me to call you out for it. You say you're here to debate, but you don't even debate. In one of your other comments to me, you said "stop focusing on dating and go outside and have fun." Is that supposed to be debate or advice? Don't dodge this question btw like you often do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:17 PM |
| 5 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenThere are several women and men I've debated here who've opened my eyes in ways I hadn't considered before. Sometimes it's just a matter of offering a nuanced view on a topic that is inherently much more complex than meets the eye. Suffice to say you're not one of them. Everything you've said is the same nonsense repeated over and over again in the exact same way. It gets old, but I guess you seem to still enjoy it, despite it being a waste of everyone else' time. I would get bored of it fast if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Most men watch porn, most women are creeped out by porn. Isn't this the gender war already?Porn to men is romance novels/literotica to women. Just like how some men watch and actually enjoy romance novels, some women enjoy porn. But there are way more male porn addicts than there are female porn addicts and there are way more female romance novel addicts than there are male romance novel addicts. Anna Lembke, author of the popular book Dopamine Nation, and also well-known Stanford psychologist herself admitted to being addicted to romance novels. I only recently found out how common a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:47 AM |
| 0 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI don't think there's any point tbh. Just a terrible human being here to waste other people's time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:44 AM |
| – | Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny.Uptalk is a big one, especially in recent times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:37 AM |
| – | Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny.Nowadays it's more common to insult a man by calling him a virgin/incel than by calling him gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:36 AM |
| – | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI'm pretty sure the person you responded to is just a habitual rage-baiter here. I've been on this sub almost a year, and nothing they've typed ever has helped anyone or changed anyone's mind on anything. They're not here to debate or offer advice, they're here to ragebait and waste time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:30 AM |
| 1 | I noticed that many people are performative progressivesIt isn't going to hurt him either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:20 AM |
| 1 | I noticed that many people are performative progressivesHey is that from the grim adventures of billy and mandy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:51 AM |
| 8 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenMen have always had to make the first move, so it has always been a numbers for us. Have you applied to jobs? Did you get accepted to every job you applied? I'm sure you viewed job hunting as a numbers game. If companies approached you with job offers, then you wouldn't view it that way, but that isn't the case for most people. This isn't just true for hookups. Even for things like marriage, it's still a numbers game for men. If women approached men, it would become a numbers game for women. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:55 AM |
| 6 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI said, go enjoy life and socialize with others. Have fun. I already do these things and have been doing them since I was born. Take a break from dating. I can't take a break from something I never even got into. It's like asking someone who has never done drugs to stop doing drugs. Lmao I only responded to you because you implied that sex outside of relationships just happens for people. I guess I either misinterpreted what you meant, or you failed to disambiguate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI already do that. So do most of my friends. It hasn't helped at all with sex happening for us the way you say it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenIt rhymes with grace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenIk, I'm saying if a men were looking to stumble into sex outside of a relationship, how would that be achieved? As an expert at this, surely you would have useful guidance to offer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 11:08 PM |
| 45 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z women>btw a common complaint I have heard from women of all age groups is that attractve guys don’t approach them more often! fixed that for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenHow does sex happen then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Men have so it so easyI'd rather my daughter seriously date a 19 yr old with a car and a job at the age of 16, than drunkenly fuck a bunch of random men in a bar or on an app at any age. 16 vs 19 isn't that big a difference. Especially if the man looks young and the girl looks old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:26 PM |
| 1 | 🔵BP/Feminism pushes for equality in all aspects of society, EXCEPT dating, (where it arguably matters the most), shows that its destructive for societyBanning PDA so single people don't feel bad sure is a proposal of some sort. Probably good to ban love songs, romantic movies, cohabitation, tables for two at restaurants, dancing in a partnered configuration, etc, while you are at it. Should we allow people having sex in public? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:22 PM |
| – | Why do so many men pay for things like OF?OK let's break the logic down. Either the OF model is pretending to like the man, or she isn't pretending to like the man. Case 1: She is pretending to like the man. In this case, she is deceiving the client, as he believes he is speaking to her when in reality it is someone else. Case 2: She is not pretending to like the man. In this case, why not just watch porn, which is free? Either case raises questions for the client's reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:21 PM |
| 1 | 🔵BP/Feminism pushes for equality in all aspects of society, EXCEPT dating, (where it arguably matters the most), shows that its destructive for societyThose already exist in many countries, but yes we should do all those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 06:16 PM |
| -1 | Do men think less of women when they invest in gifts?Can you read? I said that sexual acts matter much more, not that they are the only thing that matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Men have so it so easyWhy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:32 PM |
| -4 | 🔵BP/Feminism pushes for equality in all aspects of society, EXCEPT dating, (where it arguably matters the most), shows that its destructive for societyI mean you could do many things: - State-subsidized dating coaches for single men - State-subsidized fitness coaches for obese men and obese women - State-subsidized plastic surgery for disfigured men/women - State-subsidized orthodontics and maxillofacial surgery - State-subsidized buccal fat removal and liposuction - Free shipments of minoxidil/finasteride for balding men - Free shipments of makeup and makeup supplies for single women - Subsidization of media featuring fat/balding/short/low-IQ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Men have so it so easyTo be honest, women would more likely choose a well-endowed man who was bad at oral over a dude with small dick. Source? Source? SOURCE????????????????? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:15 PM |
| 0 | Men have so it so easyAll you're really saying is that men with small dicks can only be good if well-endowed men are lazy. But well-endowed men are lazy. Given the option between a guy who's good at oral but has a small dick and a guy who's good at oral and had a big dick, no woman choosing the first option. Sure, but most guys (big or small dick) are bad at oral. Most men don't care to make a woman nut once they've nutted in her. To be honest, women would more likely choose a well-endowed man who was bad at oral ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Men have so it so easyIn my case, I simply lost all attraction to HS girls once I entered college. I just wanted the college baddies. Still do now. Probably will long after my hair turns white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Do men think less of women when they invest in gifts?It's neutral to slightly positive. It definitely is not a negative. For most men (including me), the biggest sign of affection a woman can show a man is letting him have sex with her, or doing sexual things with her. So while the gift will be appreciated, it will pale in comparison to your desire and willingness to have sex with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:56 PM |
| 0 | Men have so it so easyHow small is the dick? Most women value girth over length, and even if the girth is bad, the man can still make her orgasm by giving her head or fingering her. A woman will prefer a small dick man who gives amazing head over an average/big dick man who can't even make her orgasm. And most women don't even orgasm from penetrative sex, and even when they do, it is rarely correlated with the man's penis size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Men have so it so easyThis is spot on. I knew a 5'4 19 yr old guy who in college only went for high school girls (in the 16-18 range). The high school girls found him cool since he had his own car and was older. He took like 3 high school girls' virginities. The Romeo & Juliet laws of his state protect him from statutory rape charges as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:45 PM |
| 3 | Men have so it so easy"Men have it so easy" yet only half as many men reproduced throughout history as women did. Lol. Legions of men slaughtered in battle or suffocating in mines, dying for women who end up just remarrying another man. But I guess since we have it so easy, why not get a sex change and turn into a man? You'd then have such an easy time with the ladies right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men pay for things like OF?The comparison you made you would be more apt if the antique seller was selling fake dolls made from cheap material instead of actual porcelain without telling the customer about it. Would your mother still make these purchases in such a situation? The OF terms and conditions doesn't state that: 1) messages may be handled by third parties 2) emotional intimacy may be performative 3) romantic interest may not be genuine This means it is expected that the fans do their own research on this to be w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men pay for things like OF?Around 90% of men who pay for OF are married. I don't doubt, but do you have a source for this, in case anyone asks me for one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many men pay for things like OF?I don't understand how OF can provide a "higher" level of intimacy than paying for sex, especially when you know that with OF it's not a real woman on the other end. Even if it was a real woman on the other end, how would that be better than actually being inside a woman? Both are obviously fake, but at least in prostitution the man gets his dick wet. I really do think there might be some element of competitiveness/gamification involved. I think this OF fan is effectively saying to himself "I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:10 PM |
| 7 | SwipeStats data from 2026 demonstrates that Hinge is mathematically non-viable for the average male userAll those attributes can be gleaned except the income. The income is guessed based on the photo quality + fashion. Top 30 yr old male: - 100k+ income (150k-200k in high COL cities) - Full head of hair - 10-15% BF - 6'0+ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:52 PM |
| 13 | SwipeStats data from 2026 demonstrates that Hinge is mathematically non-viable for the average male userAverage 30 yr old male: - $60k income - Norwood 2 - 24% Body Fat - 5'9 - Some college (perhaps a bachelors) Roughly half of 30 yr old American men are non-Hispanic white, the other half are non-white or Hispanic white. So there isn't really a median when it comes to ethnicity (though ethnicity does matter tremendously in dating preferences). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”This assumes that the man wants a relationship from the same women with whom he is having casual sex. A man could have casual sex with lots of women, and then later settle down with a woman with whom he has not had any casual sex. The issue is that she might still judge him for paying for sex, as many women do consider paying for sex to be taboo. Perhaps if less women saw paying for sex as taboo, men would pay for it more instead of seeking casual sex with civilian women. Also, prostitution is i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:13 PM |
| – | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?In mainstream psychology and sociology, the current consensus is that most gender differences are due to a combination of multiple factors, including both biological and cultural factors. However, in other less scientific fields, like gender studies, the consensus seems to be that biological differences don't really exist, and that all gender differences are purely the result of patriarchal systems. I wonder if gender theorists even believe in evolution itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”Like women, I may want just sex at some points in my life and a relationship later on when I am looking to settle down. The woman whom I would settle down with might still not like that I paid for sex. She might prefer that it was with a civilian woman rather than with an escort. Also, there is the issue of money. A lot of poorer men can't afford prostitutes. So for them, the only way to get casual sex is by literally becoming (or trying to become) a badboy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”The issue is that many women judge men for paying for sex. Many women would rather prefer a man have casual sex with a civilian woman than with a prostitute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Should women reject men that don’t treat them like they would a top 1% Stacy?Women already reject men who don't treat them like the top 1% Stacy. So the question is moot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?I hope it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?Nope. Sounds fun though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careI'll bite. I actually agree with you that a lot of modern men don't value connection, especially in the context of a committed long-term relationship. Biologically, most men are promiscuous, meaning that most men, if given the choice, would choose to sleep with lots of women. Historically, things like marriage and religion curbed these tendencies. As these cultural institutions continue to erode, a lot of men then simply succumb to their innate urge to sleep around, at the expense of forming a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”Now here's the issue. Men by and large desire sex over relationships (and for many men, relationships are just a reliable way to get sex on a regular basis). If the badboy is seen as the object of sexual desire, then many men won't want to be in the middle ground, they'll want to become the badboy so they get to have sex with lots of women. Maybe eventually once they have a midlife crisis they'll want to settle down, but I think a lot of men would still really prefer to live the badboy life for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”What about being attracted to a baddie/asshole because they are perceived to be more exciting and less judgmental? For example, I might perceive an OF model to be more exciting in bed and less judgmental of me and my sexuality than some religious woman, because she herself has presumably had a lot more experience than the religious woman and and is perceived to be much wilder and spontaneous in the bedroom. Similarly, I can see how a woman might be more drawn to a brooding badboy than a stable p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careWhat should men be doing to sweeten the deal? Looksmaxx? Pay for dates? Give head? Are they not doing these things now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?It seems you don't dispute that generally men do indeed care less about "being desired" than women do. I was only suggesting an explanation as to why this difference evolved. I am not saying it is good or bad, only explaining how it came to be. Nothing of what I said was intended to refute what you said, it was just adding explanation to the facts. I'm also not sure what you find heinous about my comment, and not at all sure what monogamy has to do with anything. All I did was offer an evolution… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?Dangerous? If anything, it sounds profitable. I'd be able to make an OF and make money off of their sexual desire for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?The ideal sexual experience involves both people desiring each other AND wanting the other to desire them. It’s wanting and being wanted. It’s acknowledging both the body and the MIND of the other. Ideal is a moral qualification, not a scientific one. In most sexually reproducing species (including humans), only the male orgasm is required for conception. The female orgasm is peripheral and in some species even non-existent as far as facilitating or requiring conception is concerned. This has ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?What if the sex came with good foreplay and would guarantee you having an orgasm? Would that change your choice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:54 PM |
| 4 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?I have been objectified a couple times in my life, and it felt amazing. I still think about those moments fondly. Even if the woman wasn't that attractive, I still loved the feeling of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf it's his job to protect her, what is her job? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Would you be a Single FatherI would raise the child with my parents. It wouldn't change much because my mom and dad, both of whom are retired, would have plenty of time to give the child and would even enjoy it. I would visit them everyday to see my child. It would be ideal if the child's mother could visit him/her every once in a while, but that isn't strictly necessary either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 08:01 PM |
| – | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Specifically, upper middle class white women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)I agree that differences, once they exist, compound exponentially, even though the initial difference might have been small. Yet the initial difference did exist at some point, and it must have been caused by biology, otherwise it would not have been the initial difference to begin with. But I don't think the race analogy is valid, there is no evolutionary theory that supports race differences. There is a LOT of evolutionary theory that supports sex differences. So the two are totally incomparab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Oh I absolutely agree that feminism is a cancer and blight on society that is infiltrating all areas of politics and government. No argument with you there brother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)What if it simply isn't enforced and we just continue with polygamy? The men who are unable to reproduce get sedated with AI sex bots and video games. The women who don't reproduce also get sedated with the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)I mean the fact that subs would ban me on sight is more a reflection of the political leanings of Reddit administration than reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Your argument was the female risk taking is due to social conditioning. Are you implying it is purely due to social conditioning, or due to a combination of biological and social factors? If it is due to social factors, in what ways would those factors manifest themselves? What are some of the ways in which women are discouraged from risk taking? For example, what discourages women from gambling and what makes them less likely to be addicted to gambling? I use gambling as an example because it i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Oh I definitely agree that the patriarchy itself is caused by the variability hypothesis as well. What I am saying is that ultimately both the patriarchy and all its manifestations are consequences of biology. This is in contrast to the so-called constructionist argument posited by many modern feminists, which denies the role that biology plays in gender differences, and attributes them all to the patriarchy itself. Interestingly, the social constructionist view doesn't really have an explanatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:24 PM |
| 5 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)This really bites into the heart of the issue. Religion, which would have been the most important force for enforcing monogamy, is now obsolete, so the question is will society make a voluntary comeback to some other form of religion, or will the atheists simply die out and self-select themselves out of existence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)I have no idea what you're on about. What you're saying doesn't explain why so many geniuses are men, but then so many autists are also men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Are you suggesting that all gendered differences are due to socialization? For example, is the greater male desire for sexual variety driven by biology or social conditioning? Let's assume that biology plays no role, and that social conditioning encourages men to be socially promiscuous. If this is the case, then why does almost every religion encourage men (and also women) to contain their lust and to refrain from adultery and fornication? As religion has had a powerful influence on human socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)It's hard to say whether aggression makes for a good leader, as it is a double-edged sword. Men who conquered vast empires like Genghis Khan and Alexander of Macedon were certainly aggressive, and had they not been their empires would not have expanded to the extent that it did. Many men would try to conquer vast swaths of land if they could. I do not know if women dream of conquest and power as much as men do, and if they don't, I think it is reasonable to ask whether this is due to social cond… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:49 PM |
| 4 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Well I was never trying to disprove the existence of patriarchy, it definitely exists. I was just arguing that many differences observed between the sexes (including patriarchy itself) are products of variability in male genetics. This is contrast to the constructionist view that many feminists put forward that most observable gender differences are due to the patriarchy (and not due to underlying biological reasons). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:40 PM |
| 6 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)For most of human history, women were not just selecting for social skills. They were selecting for hunting prowess and ability to work effectively with the other men in the tribe to secure tribal objectives, whether in hunting or battle. I guess you could say social skills falls under the umbrella of the latter, but it doesn't seem to capture the full picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)This is interesting. It seems that intelligence doesn't appear in the variability hypothesis, which is very much contrary to what I expected. In any case, men are still the dice when it comes to the fact that they are evolved to be more risk-taking, aggressive, and competitive. Is there research confirming or disputing this? Because it would also play a role in accounting for men's dominance in military and politics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 02:11 AM |
| -2 | Men are the dice of humanity and will therefore always be the majority group in both positions of power (politics, military) and positions of powerlessness (homelessness, prisons)Can you read? Nobody is saying they are gender specific. Sure, if a smart man reproduces with a smart woman, their child will be more likely to be smart, regardless of its sex. But I am saying that the variance will be higher for a male than for a female. Do you know the difference between mean and variance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 02:07 AM |
| -2 | In 2026 it genuinely feels like men are leveling up at a way faster rate than women, and it’s changing the whole dynamicThe phrases he used are not stupid. They only appear that way to you because of your sub-normal intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Nightclubs are never coming backDo you know of any women who are interested in having casual sex with me? If so please DM me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 02:01 PM |
| 0 | It's better to be the mistress than the wifeThen why don't just find a married man and be his mistress? What's stopping you from doing that? How hard can it be? Also, men face the same risk with women. An average man has to be a betabucks for his average wife, while she can easily cheat on him with the Chads she hooked up with back in the glory days. And if he has any complaints? She just leaves him and takes half his money, his house and his kids, and he has nothing left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 12:33 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Men should be happy to pay for the first dateYour anecdote is interesting, but I'm not sure it proves anything. Is there statistics on whether femme lesbians have an overwhelmingly expectation that butch lesbians pay for the date? The main reason why straight men complaining about this is because many men are financially struggling now, and that the original historical reasons for why men were expected to pay don't make much sense today. It only really makes sense for the man to pay if he is specifically looking for a woman to be a SAHM or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 03:19 PM |
| 5 | Men should be happy to pay for the first dateAre you actually a woman or a man larping as a woman to troll? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 02:59 PM |
| 0 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Men only do this because women believe them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you get offended if a guy you deem unattractive hits on you/asks you out?It's commonly assumed in the BP that most women are only annoyed by being approached if they find the man sufficiently unattractive. For the right man, the woman won't be annoyed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Women generally have it harder than men.i am getting the impression that misogyny is more frequent from either experiencing it daily myself, or seeing it absolutely everywhere i look I don't deny you experience misogyny in your own personal life. But how do you know that this strictly more than the misandry experienced by the boys/men around you? Have you asked them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Do you get offended if a guy you deem unattractive hits on you/asks you out?Would this annoyance be affected by the man's physical attractiveness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:55 PM |
| -1 | Women generally have it harder than men.I think a lot of men blame women for hypergamy because they don't know who else to blame. But a lot of men blame their own feminist mothers for not teaching them the truth about female hypergamy as well. Thankfully my mom made it very clear to me that most women are hypergamous, so I don't have to live with the fact that my own mother is either lying to me, or too dumb to acknowledge hypergamy. I think ultimately you can't blame women for being women just like you can't really blame men for bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:41 PM |
| 2 | What is your take on Louis Theroux's new documentary "Inside the Manosphere"?It has nothing to do with the fact that man are falling behind academically, socially and financially, and that many boys are now being raised by women on how to be a man, and that women are doing a terrible job at this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:13 PM |
| -1 | Women generally have it harder than men.You have a lot of growing up to do. Most male sexlessness is a combination of young men being poorly socialized and women's standards increasing and hypergamy becoming more rampant. I'm not personally upset that women would choose the bear. I, as a man, would also pick the bear. I think you meant misandry, but why does it matter which one is worse if both are bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:09 PM |
| 2 | The Blue/Red pill is dead to Gen Z.<image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:03 PM |
| 1 | The Blue/Red pill is dead to Gen Z.I've always said that blackpill is the new redpill. Orthodox redpill is just boomer grifters who are washed up and will be dying of old age any day now, just like our president. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:00 PM |
| 0 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”I see. What action, if any, would make you feel that he was less attracted to you than to his exes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:59 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”I see. What answer would you give to my previous question? "Suppose you found out that your man bought all his exes expensive gifts for holidays and birthdays and took them out often and gave them etc. Suppose however that he chose not to do any of these things with you. Would you feel that he was less attracted to you?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:53 PM |
| 2 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Who is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:43 PM |
| 5 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”I guess you haven't met many women then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:41 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Ah then I must've misread what you originally wrote. I thought what you originally wrote was that "Just because I choose to have casual sex with some men does not mean that me making other men wait makes me find them less attractive." What you originally wrote is reasonable and I have no objections to it. But what I thought I was responding to is also a common position held by many women, so I wanted to see if there was a potential double standard there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:40 PM |
| -2 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Did you edit the original comment that I replied to after my reply? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 03:22 PM |
| 6 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Who is we? There are women I know who give no signals at all to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:27 PM |
| 3 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”I think most men will be able to get a relationship with a sufficiently unattractive woman. There's a lot of ugly but single woman, so the man just has to lower his standards enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:23 PM |
| -1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”This is a fair point. Question for you though. Suppose you found out that your man bought all his exes expensive gifts for holidays and birthdays and took them out often and gave them etc. Suppose however that he chose not to do any of these things with you. Would you feel that he was less attracted to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:17 PM |
| 2 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”The best way for men to deal with those women is to just say you want a relationship, sleep with them, and then ghost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:05 PM |
| -2 | The courting process never ends for men.To me, this means the following: - Letting me randomly play with her boobs and caress them and suck them - Letting me randomly spank her ass and squish it - Giving me head - Asking me to fuck her and then letting me fuck her - Letting me cum on her face - Hearing her moans I don't care about flowers, picnics, dinner dates, home cooked meals or any of that crap. I am happy to do those things for her, but I give literally zero fucks if she does those for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 11:48 PM |
| 0 | Your type is who likes you not who you likeDo you crave romance or physical intimacy at all? I know a lot of women are asexual, meaning they don't need or even want sex, but it's less common for women to be aroace (aromantic and asexual). Most women do have a need for romance and some degree of intimacy (whether it is physical or emotional) and are willing to settle for it. But there is variance in this aspect, so outliers do exist and I'm guessing that you're one of them. Is that correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 11:54 PM |
| 4 | Some of the best advice men can be given is to stop caring too much about women.Shallow because you said so or shallow because it is shallow? What makes being attracted to a personality, laugh, or noises less shallow? Ugly men won’t get attractive women unless they have something else women want, like a house, or money to be a provider. It’s that simple. Ugly men won't get attractive women. The other stuff is pointless because women make their own money and don't need men anymore. If an ugly man is somehow able to find an ugly woman attractive, then maybe something can be w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 11:48 AM |
| 7 | Some of the best advice men can be given is to stop caring too much about women.You can't just put physical attraction to a woman aside, it's literally required for sustaining an erection, which is required for ejaculation, which is required for conception, which is required for the production of humanity itself. But otherwise, I agree that if men were able to value a woman's other qualities, then they might experience more success. The issue with this is that many of the woman who possess other qualities are not attractive, and dating a woman you aren't attracted to is tot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 10:59 AM |
| 10 | Has manosphere content gotten you laid?Indirectly. Thanks to the manosphere, I found important blackpill channels like DBDR and Rehab Room. I also took an interest in evolutionary psychology, and now understand the evolutionary basis for many human experiences, like love, lust, limerence, jealousy, anger, envy, guilt etc. My dating life has improved now that I understand the basis for these things. In the past, I was confused by why women were so hypergamous and came to resent this part about them deeply. Now that I understand why th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingIf you're talking about whatever, it is filmed in Santa Barbara. UCSB is the #1 party school in the US, so it's kind of expected women there would mostly slutty. If the same show was filmed on the Harvard campus with students from Harvard, most people would be virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Why are men obsessed with “submissive”women?In the bedroom I like to be dominant and give instructions which I expect her to follow obediently. Outside of the bedroom, I just want her to defer to my judgment on matters in which I have more expertise than her. For example, if she's buying a PC, I want her to trust my judgment and not hers. If she trusts her own judgment over mine for no particular reason, I'd view that as an insult to my expertise and intelligence. On matters where she is more experienced, I would defer to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 10:04 AM |
| – | What do you mean by men are formulaic in dating?In most countries of the world, regardless of how feminized they are, men are expected to lead, plan, initiate and pay for most romantic outings and interactions. The value of a meal relative to sex is going to vary culturally. To some women, sex with an attractive stranger is just a fun interaction that comes with the date, to others it is a deep emotional bond that is paired with physical intimacy. Obviously if you are in the latter category of women, you won't view the meal as being "worth th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 12:30 AM |
| 2 | Most people will find love if they achieve the following things:I just wanted to confirm whether you thought it was because of other factors. A lot of women here don't agree with you on multiple points, which is why I brought this up. It seems you and I are in agreement on most things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 11:17 PM |
| 11 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.So basically: Women: Men, rewrite your biology, so we don't have to rewrite ours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 09:14 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean by men are formulaic in dating?It's not really a gamble for women since either way she's still getting a free meal out of the date. If she pays for her meal, then I can see what you said being true, but most women don't pay for their meal. I don't think the end goal of a date is getting someone to agree to have sex. Sex is the end goal for many men. Most men wouldn't be romancing women if sex was off the table. I'm not saying that it's expected on the first date, but eventually somewhere down the line, sex is expected. If sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 09:06 AM |
| 5 | Most people will find love if they achieve the following things:Is having casual sex with a woman equivalent to using her and discarding her? Do you speak for all women on this matter? In any case, what makes it possible for some men to do this and not others? No need to beat around the bush. You can just say what's on your mind. You won't lose your job over saying the sky is blue on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 03:27 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean by men are formulaic in dating?IF you were a man on a date with a woman, what would you say, and would you expect what you say to have a predictable outcome? If not, should you just not get emotionally attached to the woman and view the whole interaction purely as a gamble/dice roll until she agrees to finally have sex? If there is no action that guarantees an outcome, then it's basically just gambling with your time at that point, correct? You're playing the slots, hoping to hit a jackpot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 03:03 AM |
| 5 | Most people will find love if they achieve the following things:But there are men who are getting it, so it is possible for some men right? What makes it realistic for some men but unrealistic for others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 02:58 AM |
| 7 | Most people will find love if they achieve the following things:Is it unrealistic because of the man's genetics or some other reason? If it is because of his genetics, isn't that a blackpilled view? If so, why are you flaired as bluepill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Why do most guys say their ideal woman is a "good girl" (sweet, loyal, low body count, not super party-oriented)? Is it genuine or just what sounds good?Sexual attraction (both for men and women) exists so that the genes may propagate themselves. Evolutionary sexual attraction triggers are the products of millions of years of natural selection and intrasexual competition. Over these years, the male brain has evolved to find primarily three traits attractive in women: 1) Fertility. It is usually demonstrated with things like youth, wide hips, clear skin. This represents a woman's ability to produce healthy offspring. 2) Loyalty. A woman can only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/26 07:20 AM |
| 7 | "Men desire women, women desire men's desire". Thoughts?Red pillers don't care about genuine desire as much. It's the black pillers who care. Red pillers are willing to bucks and jester for women, regardless of whether she actually cares about the men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Bieng a jerk helps a lotI don't think it's about being a jerk, it's about being fixable. Some women have a savior complex, they want to be the one to save a man with a dark past. It's why many women prefer Vegeta over Goku. With Goku, there are no challenges, he is already fine the way he is. With Vegeta, he is unpredictable and harsh, but is good on the inside, but doesn't reveal that to others. The woman wants to be the only one he is nice to, as a testament to her irresistible feminine charm, and as a way of possess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 10:01 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks PostsYou need to just watch Rehab Room brother. This sub won't help you. Unfortunately, the BP is not subject to debate, it's just something you accept, and gather your copes and some popcorn because there's not much else you can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:23 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks PostsI don't actually think women are the ones against BP content. Most women are somewhat BPed themselves, women have had to looksmaxx since the dawn of time. The people that are actually against BP content are the Reddit admins who are afraid Reddit will be used as a tool for instigating political violence. It is a known fact that when disgruntled men gather, violence/crime against the state typically ensues. So its not about women, it's a political statement. Its about suppressing ideas which migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:13 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks PostsHow does looksmaxxing promote misogyny if most looksmaxxers are women? Are women promoting misogyny? That makes no sense. It isn't misogynistic to debate whether women value height or muscles more in men. Nor is it misogynistic to debate whether man value the face or the tits/ass in women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:10 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks Posts"Even women" is an understatement, women have been looksmaxxing since the dawn of time. You should be saying "even men" instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:08 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks PostsWhy is it bad not to allow debates on defeatism and genetic determinism if that is the endgame for many humans anyway in the modern dating market? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:06 AM |
| – | It's time to Unban Looks PostsI thought the OP was asking about debates related to looks and looksmaxxing, and not people asking for face ratings. This is a debate sub after all, not a looksmaxxing sub. I am interested in debating topics related to looks, such as the importance of things like tits/ass vs face, or muscle vs height etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:03 AM |
| – | What’s going on with the comments on this IG reel? Do women just hate men?High sex drive as in high desire for sexual variety the way men have or just high desire to repeatedly boink a single man? And you are able to enjoy it and orgasm despite not feeling emotional attachment to the guy? Are you able to orgasm from penetration alone, even in a casual encounter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:27 AM |
| -5 | It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen AlphaWhat about this? https://np.reddit.com/r/Vindicta/comments/sygjmr/meta_lets_map_it_out_together_what_are_the_tiers/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:16 AM |
| 1 | What’s going on with the comments on this IG reel? Do women just hate men?How tall does he look to you? The Latinas are not wearing heels, and he is barely taller than they are. He does have broad shoulders though. I wouldn't know what makes his face attractive. If he wouldn't give you a glance, why do you call yourself a turbo-slut? Don't you have to be somewhat attractive to be a turbo-slut? What even is a turbo-slut? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:15 AM |
| 2 | It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen AlphaI mean you troll this sub every day with non-sequiturs. It's routine to you isn't it? I can see the appeal behind novelty, but I imagine it would get tiring for me after a while, but it seems you've been at it for years. To each his own I guess. We are talking about terms, not concepts. My OP was about terminology. Anyways, even the concept of waking up to reality wasn't really well-defined as a term before the RP. At best, you could argue that the work of Plato, Descartes and Buddha somewhat to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:11 AM |
| 1 | What’s going on with the comments on this IG reel? Do women just hate men?I would not know, I am not a woman so I don't know how male attractiveness is judged. What features makes him a Chad? I can however say those Latinas are quite valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:04 AM |
| -1 | It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen AlphaI don't think Ray Liotta finds my comment as funny as you do. It is a fact that the term originated from the Matrix movies, which came out in 1999. The concept of waking up to reality did exist prior to that year, but it certainly wasn't called red pill before the movies were released. The term RP itself only existed after the movies came out, and only in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Glad you got a laugh out of the conversation. Wish I could say the same. Just disappointed in you as usual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 02:02 AM |
| 1 | What’s going on with the comments on this IG reel? Do women just hate men?Is that man actually considered a Chad? Amusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:58 AM |
| -5 | It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen AlphaThe terms aren't mainstream. What makes something mainstream? At what point would you consider the term mainstream? Don't dodge this question like you often do my other ones. RP existed before you were even born. Seeing as I was born before the Matrix movie was even released, this statement can't possible be true. I don't know whose ass you keep pulling this shit out of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Sisters, can you tell us how your brothers are doing in the relationship realm?There are ways to do that which do not involve supplicating to superstitious entities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:51 AM |
| -4 | It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen AlphaI am Millennial myself, so there's no need for me to thank myself. Funny you would assume otherwise. Yea, 304 is well-known. Mog was not mainstream when I was in school. In fact, the RP/blackpill did not exist when I was in high school. The terms are mainstream now. You are delusional if you think this term isn't mainstream now. My suspicion is that you do not spend time around any college students to know what they say nowadays. You needn't make it more obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Sisters, can you tell us how your brothers are doing in the relationship realm?A man of culture he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Sisters, can you tell us how your brothers are doing in the relationship realm?For supplicating to superstitious entities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 01:06 AM |
| – | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Having watched the full stream recently, I doubt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 12:57 AM |
| – | Most Men Who Are Obsessed With "Paternity Fraud" Don't Understand GeneticsFor paternity anxiety to be a strongly selected trait, the fitness difference between "raising my bio-kid" and "raising this other human child" needs to be substantial. The genomic math suggest it isn't. Substantial would depend on the time scale in which the evolution occurs relative to the variation in genetic similarity. A ~0.1% of variable DNA might seem like a small number to us humans, but over the course of millions of years of mammalian evolutionary history it is actually much more signi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 10:14 PM |
| – | Most Men Who Are Obsessed With "Paternity Fraud" Don't Understand GeneticsI hope you believe in evolution. If you don't, then any further conversation is futile. With evolution, a gene (or gene complex) which favors its own existence is more likely to proliferate than a gene (or gene complex) which does not favor its own existence. For a gene to effectively propagate itself throughout space, it must instruct its host to perform two functions: 1) Harness the energy of the universe to sustain itself. 2) Propagate itself to future hosts, whether sexually or asexually, or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 09:36 PM |
| – | Most Men Who Are Obsessed With "Paternity Fraud" Don't Understand GeneticsAccording to your argument, people should all be content adopting children than having their own. Go convince the world to do this using your science. People operate based on biology, and male biology instructs men to seek out loyal women who will perpetuate his genes. It's as simple as that. The numbers aren't relevant, the evolution already took place and the wiring is already programmed into our brains. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Know any guys that have stopped paying for dates?She means that you are an outlier and as such aren't really disproving anything she said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Know any guys that have stopped paying for dates?The most optimal strategy for men looking to leech off of women is to pay for the first date, get her emotionally invested in the man, and then get her to pay for things by exploiting her sunk cost fallacy. It's not really viable to get women to pay for the first date, even if the man is attractive, because then there is no sunk cost fallacy that the woman is operating on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:48 PM |
| – | Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problemI see. So basically, women find 5% of men attractive from 19-22, and after that age, they realize those men were just using them and then just find 0% of men attractive. That's basically the gist, correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 03:14 AM |
| – | Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problemIn what ways do early-20s dating dynamics differ from other stages of life? Do women suddenly start to find a large percentage of men attractive after a certain age? If so, what age is that? Are the men under that age who are not in the top X% supposed to just wait until they reach that age while watching others around them have their fun? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 01:25 AM |
| – | Can we figure out something to differentiate between old redpill and new redpill?The part of the RP that is based on science is now just blackpill. The part that is grifters trying to make money is just blue pill grift disguised as "strategies" for helping men attract women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.It refers to the clavicle, or collarbone, whose prominence is considered a feature of an aesthetically pleasing male physique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.But your opinion is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Can't tell if trolling or not xd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Can we figure out something to differentiate between old redpill and new redpill?It doesn't really exist except for boomers who haven't caught on to the times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.There’s a lot of assumption regarding your post when it comes to a lot of things. Assuming these new blackpilled men being peaceful about being blackpilled and nothing bad happening At best they will whine on the Internet and at worst they'll vote for people like Trump. There won't be military revolutions, because a blackpilled man won't be able to hold his own against drones and mass surveillance. Assuming that just about every new baby born will be attractive at their parents. So long as new p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Some interesting points, but I have some questions. 1) Suppose neutral men did stop approaching. More men would indeed become blackpilled. Yes they would be miserable, and they would die out without reproducing. But then the next generation would consist primarily of attractive men and attractive women, and seduction wouldn't be required. Both men and women would have genuine desire for most members of the opposite sex and women wouldn't be complaining about patriarchy because they would all be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.I feel like we're in agreement then, you're just nitpicking against strawmans that I never made. Attractive men get approached, unattractive men don't, just like with women. I don't think you've really contradicted this point, and if you weren't trying to, I'm not sure what purpose your comment serves. Attractive men don't need to approach. They get approached. The question is whether men who aren't conventionally attractive should actively approach women, especially if no woman is approaching t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.A lot of women are turned off by his arrogant and obnoxious demeanor, but many still find him attractive. I'm sure there's women out there that find his personality repulsive but still fuck him anyway because they find him attractive (much like men do). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:08 PM |
| 7 | Can we figure out something to differentiate between old redpill and new redpill?Old Redpill is now a part of the blue pill, and the new redpill is the blackpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:01 PM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.The women that are on the apps for validation aren't interested in any guy, only in their approval and validation. I don't see how this proves anything about his looks. They still matched with him, so they must find him reasonably attractive. Most men get few to no matches on the apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.A woman is not going to grind on a guy at the club, if he's not dancing with her. Sure, a guy standing outside the dance floor just watching isn't going to get women grinding on him. But an attractive guy who is at the dance floor making eye contact with women is occasionally going to get a drunk woman slowly dance her way towards him and potentially grind on him. If he reciprocates, she may even kiss him. I've seen it happen. Haven't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Has a woman ever directly called you hot/sexy/gorgeous? If so, did you pursue them and were they receptive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.I don't know how true this is. If a Russian woman marries a Chinese man, does that mean she prefers Chinese men to Russian men and is sexually excited by them more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:50 PM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.What part of the video are you referencing? I just watched it, and he says he gets tons of matches, but that they don't go anywhere, presumably because most of those women aren't actually there to meet men, but rather just for validation, which seems correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Indeed, and for many men, there may not be any women that are genuinely attracted to them, since for most of human history, men (unlike women) evolved to be providers and not necessarily to be physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.If a woman is aggressively grinding her ass against you at a club telling you how much you look, I imagine it counts for a lot more than if she completely ignores your existence. And the truth is, some men do experience this type of treatment. Have you clubbed with conventionally attractive men before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 07:43 AM |
| 3 | A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing itPeople operate based on opportunity costs. For man X, getting laid might take P units of time and effort, which he doesn't mind spending as he has nothing better to do. For another man Y, getting laid might take exponentially more effort, say 10*P, which he does mind spending as he would rather be doing other things with that time. How much effort it takes a given man to achieve a given dating result is going to primarily depend on his genetics, and the opportunity cost is dependent on how much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 06:38 AM |
| -3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Is this sarcasm? Is it unfathomable that another woman would approach and hit on a man they find attractive, simply because you and your friends don't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Not to you, but to attractive men they sometimes do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 06:32 AM |
| – | No matter what, Looks determine everything in dating (unless you have no choice)I mean if a guy is attractive but stuck in his room all day, or if his game is atrociously bad, he is still going to struggle. I know attractive men in my college who got no action because of how shy and awkward they were. Women wanted them to approach, but they never did, so the women just went with the more average guys that did actually approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 06:14 AM |
| 2 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesYou have to be a dynamic hybrid between good girl and hoe, where you gradually escalate your hoe-ness based on the romance and commitment offered by the man. That way, you will ultimately end up a hoe, but only for the man who truly does love you. The escalation of hoe-ness has to be dangled in front of him like a carrot on a stick, and the male brain will then succumb to its imperatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 06:04 AM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Back when I was in HS and undergrad, there were girls who did hit on me. They weren't as attractive as that the girl in the video, and they were also drunk, but it was still very clear that they were into me. They weren't total strangers, as I did make some small-talk with them before. I am average looking at best, but the university was female-dominated (over 70% female) and the campus was very sexually liberal. So these things probably gave me a huge advantage, despite only being average looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:50 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Why don't you unsimplify it and explain in more detail why you think it is that most men are genuinely desired by their wives and that their wives married them primarily out of sexual desire and not for other reasons? Is there reasoning behind this that does not involve you playing with a woman's tits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:27 AM |
| – | Do men need variety?Lol the fact that you find other pussies gross is kinda based. It's true that most men find the thought of other penises in their woman quite gross too. Are you at all attracted to women, and would you ever entertain the idea of a threesome with your man and another woman whom you both found attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:23 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.I see. So you personally never had to impress a woman, therefore men as a whole are sexually desired by their wives and have been throughout history, and finances and social pressure never played a role in female mate choice? So most women all across the world are, according to you at least, adequately sexually attracted to their husbands, and their husbands did not have to buy them gifts or employ any form of persuasion or flattery to wed them? And this is all true because you yourself are able… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.I see. So, in your opinion, had there been no cameras involved, women would not aggressively hit on Clavicular and try to get with him (or with any attractive man for that matter) because that is simply something women do not do (even if the woman is drunk). Am I understanding you correctly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:11 AM |
| – | Do men need variety?May I ask why it would upset you if your partner had sex with other women, provided it was just sex and that you are the only one he truly loves? By the way, I have to ask, do you participate in casual sex? If not, is it because you view love and sex as being inseparable from one another? If so, then I can understand why this would upset you. But if you did participate in casual sex yourself, then it's not really clear to me why you'd find this insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:07 AM |
| 11 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.I agree, but if you don't get signals, is the woman truly attracted to you, or does she just want you for your money and/or clownish acts to impress her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:02 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.For starters, if a woman approaches a man and compliments his appearance, he can at least be certain that she finds him attractive. If she does not approach, or if she compliments something that isn't his appearance, he won't know for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 05:00 AM |
| 5 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Who? So why would I ever listen to some random YouTuber about how to get women, why you can go try yourself? The video isn't advice for how to get women. It's just a man live-streaming his interactions with women, and another man offering social commentary on it. My own post is just commentary reflecting my own belief that most men are not sexually desired by their partners and have to make up for it with a combination of money and/or personality. The men that are truly desired, like the man in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:58 AM |
| – | Do men need variety?The woman I was referring to has a PhD in a STEM field. Still think she's insane? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:51 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.People on this sub are saying that the video is scripted, despite having no actual evidence. Do you also think it is scripted or do you think it possible that a woman could truly express desire the way the woman in this video did? Would it be a bad thing if men only pursued women who approached them first? At the very least, the man wouldn't have to doubt or negotiate attraction, it would already be there from the get-go from her having chosen him like in the video. So wouldn't this be a major b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Do you think this is also acting? https://youtu.be/Lh4qC0BS3wc?t=11635 The woman actually gets accused of acting in the video itself (by one of the viewers), and responds that if she truly was acting, her acting must be very good for someone as young as her who has never taken any acting classes at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.No, I don't have to "understand" anything you say because everything you say is your own opinion and not backed by any proof. By the way, I'm not even saying you're wrong. For all I know, it could be scripted. But I can't say for sure without some proof. He has clips with other women as well. Have you seen those too? Are they all scripted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:38 AM |
| 6 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.If I understood you correctly, you weren't sexually attracted to your BF at first sight, but over time, sexual attraction gradually developed. Is that correct? Were there other men that you were sexually attracted to at first sight? If so, did you ever approach them first? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:37 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Do you have the receipts of the girl getting paid or any video where she admits she was paid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:05 AM |
| – | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Not much unlike what you write on this sub then I guess. Why did you get married in the 7th grade? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:04 AM |
| -3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.So basically, "I think it's scripted because they don't behave like the people I interacted with when I was their age". In other words, it's scripted because you said it's scripted. I guess I'll just take your word for it, as that's all you have to offer on this matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:00 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Because you said so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:58 AM |
| -7 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Any proof that it's scripted? What about his other content? Or is it only scripted because it contradicts your own personal worldview? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Do women really rarely orgasm with men? Even with ones they feel highly attracted to.Why not go one step further and evolve so that the female orgasm is REQUIRED for conception, the same way that the male orgasm is? That way, rape or any other form of coercive mating would not evolve in some men as a possible sexual strategy, and instead of 1/10 of humans being descended from men like Genghis Khan, we would have 1/10 of men descended from men like Ryan Gosling who were emotionally attuned to the needs of women. Also, are there other theories that you think comprehensively explai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:56 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Implying women do not behave in this manner towards men they desire? Also, any proof that it's fake? Do you think this is also staged? https://youtu.be/Lh4qC0BS3wc?t=11637 And all of the other clips featuring him with women? He paid every single girl on his clips to act like this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:50 AM |
| – | Do you as a man want a financial equal partner?The thing is if a man makes a lot of money, there is the implication that he'll spend it a lot of it on her and treat her to the lifestyle that he has. If a woman makes a lot of money, it really just means that she doesn't need his money. It doesn't imply anything else for the man or for the life he could expect to have with her. She certainly won't be spending any fair portion of her money on him, and even if she was, she still won't be eager to demonstrate that during the initial stages of dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Do you go to bars and clubs often? IF so, do you never see women act this way towards men they desire? If not, how do you see these women behave towards men they truly desire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Do women really rarely orgasm with men? Even with ones they feel highly attracted to.BP stands for blackpill. It is a pessimistic, cynical, and nihilistic form of the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:34 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't approach women unless the woman has "genuine desire" for the man.Why do you assume she was paid to do this? Do you think women don't ever fawn over men in this manner? Are you a woman yourself? If so, have you never been like this to a man whom you found very attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:18 AM |
| 21 | This "treat me like a human" thing that women repeat is something men could say too.The RP likes to entertain the delusion that women hit the wall at 30, and men never hit the wall. The brutal blackpill of the matter is that women hit the wall at 45, and men hit the wall as soon as they are born. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 03:04 AM |
| – | Do men need variety?In an ideal world, I'd be able to have casual sex every once in a while with random prostitutes or women while still being married to my wife, but most women wouldn't agree to this arrangement, so it wouldn't matter anyway. I have met a total of one woman in my life who said she wouldn't care if her husband fucked random escorts as long as he had zero feelings for them and loved only her. Every other woman I know would consider something like this to be disgraceful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 12:45 AM |
| -1 | Do men need variety?I would rather be a "horndog" that admits it than a hypergamous person that lies and virtue signals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Do men need variety?I think there was some research showing that some variant of the Coolidge Effect also applies to women as well. When a new guy shows up who is able to evoke emotions in the woman she did not experience with her current man, she is more likely to desire the new man sexually. Note that unlike the classical Coolidge effect, this variant is not so much based on the physical or visual novelty of the new partner (which is what triggers the effect in men) , but on the emotional novelty, which is a stro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Do men need variety?I fantasize about different ethnicities and body types of women and I don't expect this to change even if I got married. I would still love my wife and try my best to be faithful, but the desire to experience different types of women is not something I think will ever go away for me. Note that I have no desire to experience love with all these women. Love is something I can only have for one person. But I would still strongly desire sex with them. Does that make sense? I can clarify more if need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 09:07 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Most young men would benefit greatly from going on as many dates as possible.Knowing that you can easily get a date with a woman most other men are not attracted to (including yourself) doesn't really boost your confidence with conventionally attractive woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 08:11 AM |
| 5 | Are We Treating Male Psychology as a Problem to Be Fixed?How much time do you spend on cooking and cleaning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 07:42 AM |
| 4 | How should women “take accountability”?I made no claim. What you responded to is my first comment in this thread. But some other man did assert that many women out there do exist that sleep with men who do not respect them, and then publicly whine that all men are like that. The man asserted that women like this exist, not that all or even most women do this. He made an existential claim, so his statement requires proof only of existence, which he provided. You made the assertion that most women don't do this. 'Most' is a statistical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Do women really rarely orgasm with men? Even with ones they feel highly attracted to.Is it really that common in the BP space? I feel like in the BP, the generally accepted view is that men do not prioritize or value female pleasure primarily because throughout most of human evolution, natural selection did not pressure men to value these things. After all, the female orgasm isn't required for conception, so what evolutionary pressure would there even be for men to value female pleasure? A think a more interesting question is, if female pleasure is so important, why did the fema… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceIf it is just a paper cut, why so are so many women unwilling to be drafted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 09:48 PM |
| -1 | How should women “take accountability”?Many do fit that description. If you are going to make a claim about what "most" do, you are going to need to provide some evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Sex is good for men and women to doThis is a fair point, but among straight men at least, the vast majority of them (if not all) will be turned off by a woman's promiscuity. But retroactive jealousy is not uncommon even amongst queer men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Sex is good for men and women to doIs their ideal world a bunch of women who have sex with them but never get married. And a bunch of women who stay in a convent until a slutty man decides he wants them? Unfortunately (for some at least) I do think this is the ideal for many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:30 AM |
| 0 | Sex is good for men and women to doAll men see it that way, it's just a question of what they're not willing to admit to you specifically so they can get in your pants as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Sex is good for men and women to doIf only all women thought the way you did... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:25 AM |
| 8 | Why are many of you so eager to dismiss online man hatred as "ragebait"?The fact that you don't even believe women like that exist speaks only to your own obliviousness to the world you live in. And the funny thing is, you tell us not to leave our houses. Oh the irony. xd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:24 AM |
| 8 | Why are many of you so eager to dismiss online man hatred as "ragebait"?There are lots of women in the r/femcelgrippysockjail that call for genocide of men. Btw, that sub has been around for over two years. It only still exists today because Reddit administration caters to gynocentrism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 12:00 AM |
| 31 | Common dating advice straight up doesn’t work for the average guy struggling with datingDon't skip genetics day is the advice they always forget to give. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same?The difference between men chasing baddies and then settling down with the madonna and women engaging in AF/BB is that men can't actually get the baddies. The baddies are also hypergamous and won't engage with the average man. On the other hand, any average woman can have a hot fling with a Chad, and then later settle down with the betabucks. Both sexes may want the baddie for short-term and then the stable partner for long term, but only women will be able to satisfy both these wishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 05:20 AM |
| – | It seems if a woman ever has a hook up, she should be expected to keep having subpar sex with strangers.I don't think she should be expected to keep having hookups and meet her husband from a hookup just because she had a hookup once, but she should at the very least be forgiving of men who pay for sex, as that is the equivalent to her having a hookup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/26 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.No, hypergamy is unrelated to force. If Genghis Khan kills the men of villages that he invades, and then takes the wives of the slain men as concubines, that is still hypergamy. They are still marrying up, even if not by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 01:47 PM |
| 1 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?I see. How ambitious were the men you dated? Like what were their career aspirations, if any, and did you end up having children with any of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.And fairy tales are a reflection of reality because? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 01:15 AM |
| 0 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.Can you read? I said hypergamy includes instances where a low status woman has children with a high status man. Who is saying that any sex counts as hypergamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 01:11 AM |
| -1 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.Personally I think religiously enforced monogamy was a way for the patriarchy to keep men in check. So technically your point is right. But more in the sense that having men adhere to the enforced gender roles of the "protector and provider" made it easier to have them controlled by the elite. That doesnt have anything to do with hypergamy or religion perse. Its more of a enforced gender role by the powers in control. It started with religion and became government. That still only was a pacifier… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 06:28 PM |
| 0 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?You haven't traveled anywhere enough to know anything about most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 06:08 PM |
| -6 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.You have a very optimistic view of religiously enforced monogamy. Which religion are we talking about? And which time frame? Because a lot of religions view the woman as property of the man. Not as equal. Most denominations of Christianity forbid polygamy. Islam allows polygyny, but this was only ever practiced by a small percentage of men, and was mainly implemented to address the female surplus that resulted from the male casualties from the many Islamic military expansions that occurred durin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 05:29 PM |
| 0 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?There is nothing positive associated with it. The negative comes from the association with promiscuity and other risk-seeking behavior. Not saying everyone who travels is promiscuous. It would depend a lot on the woman's cultural background and on what venues she visited during her travels. I know you're promiscuous, so you won't see that as a negative, but most men would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 05:15 PM |
| -6 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.We will see the hypergamy that is constantly brought up completely die out in the next decades. Unless of course men decide they want to view women again as property and restrict their freedom so women have to select again on factors for survival again. This is an interesting take, but I think there's three phases of history to consider: 1) Pre-religious societies 2) Religious societies enforcing monogamy 3) Post-religious societies Hypergamy is only possible in a polygamous society, since in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy has historically been common in women.It is true that every human has both a father and a mother, but among all humans who ever existed, there are more unique mothers than there are unique fathers. This is because men had higher reproductive variance than women did. There were many men who fathered children with multiple women, and many men who fathered no children at all. With women, there is less variance, but the averages are still equal. So even though on average man and women had exactly equal numbers of children, the distribut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 11:59 AM |
| -1 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?I value intelligence and empathy. Being well-traveled is a negative. The others I am indifferent to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 11:49 AM |
| 1 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?There are men who value ambition in women but there are also men who do not. I know of no woman who does not value ambition in men. Do you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Hybristophilia contradicts hypergamyIt doesn't matter who commits more crimes. The question is whether there is attraction to the criminal behavior itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 11:44 AM |
| – | Average Men are Definitely Benefiting from Men Being Radicalised.He was above average. He had a head full of hair and a square jawline. We don't know his height, but I can assume it was average. He is also white and has no accent. If he is tall and shredded, he could easily model. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 06:45 AM |
| 2 | Hybristophilia contradicts hypergamyAll people and all biological entities will rest in eternal oblivion when they die, regardless of who they were in this life. Also, there is no such thing as objective good looking. You have to be an environment where you mog. IF he is surrounded by rich model-type men, he'll still struggle and feel mogged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 03:10 AM |
| 1 | What are the signs that a woman is genuinely desired - and not just settled for as the available option?If a woman is a dream girl, the guy will be so clingy that he will push her away. So in any relationship that does end up forming, the woman is provably not a dream girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 05:53 AM |
| 1 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menthe top 15 men are naturally attractive and get easy access to thier pick of the litter the rest of the 85 are less on a sliding scale. BP is wrong becuase it presumes that a guy in the middle cant climb but he can, becuase the rest of the 99 guys ultimately have very little idea what makes women attracted to men or how to maximise that attraction which redpill allows you to do. There are more men than women in many countries. China has a male surplus of 30 million. Also, some women prioritize c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:55 AM |
| 2 | TRP’s irrational (and unproductive) hatred of single moms is fully driven by the Madonna-Whore complexWhile the M-W complex exists in many men, it doesn't really have much to do with men not liking single moms. The connection you made isn't specific to single moms and could really apply to all types of "impure" women, including OF models, pornstars and prostitutes. The main reason why men specifically resent single moms, is because the man's genes do not benefit from caring for another man's children. This is the only reason, and this is also the reason why many lions, when they take over a den,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:41 AM |
| 2 | TRP’s irrational (and unproductive) hatred of single moms is fully driven by the Madonna-Whore complexWhat if the man is offered a high paying job in a different state and takes it such that shared custody is no longer possible? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of menNo, I don’t think a woman like me would be considered exotic or desirable in any other country so it’s never crossed my mind. How do you know this to be true? Different countries have different beauty standards. My thing is that if I couldn’t land one when i was younger, me landing one when I’m older would be a ridiculous notion. While it does become harder as you age, age itself isn't an argument. Someone in the 1980s could make the argument "Oh the Internet will never exist, because if it coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Men are entering a " zero expectation " phase in datingWhen I see stuff like that online, I'm happy. Some of the people who are this awful have a requirement that "my man has no online presence". I've never seen this. Why would this be a requirement? What purpose would it serve? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 08:49 PM |
| 1 | 30s are perhaps the hardest years to date (even if you're youthful)For men, the biggest upside will be that you'll likely have your career sorted out, women will be looking to settle down and will start valuing financial stability and dad qualities more, which can benefit many men who prioritized building that in their youth. However, it can be a disadvantage for men in that if you didn't have much experience early on, you'll have a lot of catching up to do, and also, many men will suffer from hair loss in their 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of menTechnically any guy can have sex if he pays for it. Women can't pay a guy to marry them. This particular asymmetry favors men. I'm not saying men have it easier, we definitely have it harder, but we also enjoy female company more than they enjoy ours so even though it's harder for us to date, it's also more rewarding when we do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of menIs it important for you to be in a relationship? If so, would you consider moving to a country where you might be viewed as more exotic, and thus more likely to land a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 07:42 PM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromWhat's wrong with not having standards? Why is that a bad thing? It seems to me like men are more open minded and accepting of women. Why is that bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 03:30 AM |
| 0 | What would your (hypothetical) partner think if they saw your Reddit account?If my wife is high IQ, she would agree with most of what I say. If she is low IQ, I would just keep it hidden from her and she wouldn't be smart enough to ask too many questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 03:14 AM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromThe 80/20 rule. The 80/20 is a simplified heuristic which does hold for online dating, which is where the majority of Gen Z relationships are formed. Here is the evo psych explanation. Tell me which part you disagree with: 1) Both men and women are selective when it comes to long-term dating. 2) Only women are selective when it comes to short-term dating. The reason for this is due to evolution, as the reproductive costs for men are less. 3) Online dating is primarily used for short-term dating.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?I'm not blaming anyone for anything. The games I play don't even have women in them. I just find it funny when women blame men for making games that cater to the men buying the games when women themselves aren't playing anywhere nearly as much games as men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 02:06 AM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromIt absolutely is not. To the extent to which evolutionary psychology is an actual science, the way red pill abuses it has nothing to do with actual science. Describe a single TRP belief which is not based on evo psych. Not a TikTok meme, but an actual TRP belief. Except the only ones they're ever resentful towards are women. Ugly men are disadvantaged in many other ways such as in their career and compensation, which is predominantly controlled by men, but they rarely lash out at men in the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 02:03 AM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromNor are Tiktok and Instagram but that is pretty much the sole source of "evidence" for red pill these days Most redpill is based on evo psych. I don't know where you're getting TikTok from. The redpill existed before TikTok. If women not wanting to date you causes them to have "bad attitudes" towards women, then perhaps that's the problem they should solve before dating There's nothing to solve here. Bad genetics and/or life circumstances cause one to struggle, which then leads to failure, which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 11:49 PM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromI mean AskMen isn't at all representative of anything. Most men swipe right on most women, and most women aren't IG models, so I really have no idea where this notion that men are too picky is coming from? I can see how having bad attitudes towards women would hurt one's chances, but often this itself is caused by a lack of success. A man doesn't start out resentful towards woman. You'd have to be an idiot to think if men choose to hate women because it's fun or enjoyable. Most men who resent wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 10:36 PM |
| 4 | Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate.At what point does a distortion become a reality? For what fraction of the general population must it be true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 10:33 PM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWhat was the attacker's motive, and did they make that motive clear before the actual attack? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate.Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Blackpillers just gather together to discuss dating woes and assure each other that it's rough out there. It's not much unlike people struggling in the economy discussing how bad it is. Maybe that's a strange concept to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 07:47 PM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWere they armed with knives and/or guns? If so, did they just not use those weapons or what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate.Everyone has a better chance of becoming a billionaire if they try. Most still won't, even if they do try. And now you are going to say that becoming a billionaire isn't the same as succeeding with dating. Many are still going to fail at dating, if even if they try. This is a consequence of female independence and increased hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 07:40 PM |
| 5 | Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate.The general idea that even if you better yourself, there's a chance it won't be enough and you'll still be fucked by a combination of bad genetics and unbridled hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 07:29 AM |
| 9 | Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate.You can ignore the blackpill, but the blackpill won't ignore you back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 06:42 AM |
| – | Men, would you say that you do tend to struggle in the dating scene or with getting attention?As men, we are responsible for many things: - Must know how, when, and where to approach. If the approach is too aggressive, we are labeled creepy and from then on our reputation is ruined if the girl tells everyone. If we are too passive, we are labeled awkward or timid and our reputation is also ruined if the girl tells everyone. Also, we need to approach the girl, be dressed well, know exactly what to say and which compliments to make, make her laugh, ask her for her number, schedule the date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 06:09 AM |
| – | If RP denigrates women for sleeping with men, why should women choose ANY man?For a lot of things like prostitution, sex work, pornography and casual sex, I've noticed that the feeling of guilt (both for men and for women) is related to whether the act is consistent with the person's own moral code. If someone was raised that sex work is bad, they will feel bad about doing sex work and also about paying for sex. Conversely, people who weren't raised with hang-ups about sex would be far less likely to view these things as immoral, and would consequently experience much les… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?No women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:41 AM |
| 0 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?The company is already making boobies in their games. The women are the ones complaining when there's games that already don't have them. What is sad is that the companies are catering to them, and then losing male players as a result. It ends up being one of the dumbest moves from a financial standpoint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?Nice I'm in algorithms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?What branch of mathematics, and also, would you consider theoretical CS (algorithms, cryptography and complexity theory) to be pure mathematics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?I wish more women cared about Greco-Roman philosophy and mythology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?The issue isn't with women playing the games, it's with them trying to get rid of women being sexualized in video games. If they don't like the game, they can just play a different game like Factorio which doesn't have tits bouncing about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 11:02 PM |
| 5 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?In one of the Discord servers of a game I play, most of the members are male, and occasionally, they will talk about porn they like to watch or actresses they think are hot. The language they use can get quite graphic and objectifying. Now I don't mind if a woman were present listening in on us, but I can see how that type of language might bother her. So it's probably best for her own sake to not engage in this type of space, as we aren't going to change our behavior just because a woman happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 10:59 PM |
| 1 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menI'm not big on gaming myself, but most Gen Z women I know are gamers. Gaming has become mainstream for Gen Z, so I guess I don't know where you are finding these "anti-gamer" women given that most Gen Z women are gamers. I can only assume that you are on the older side, in which case all your advice is basically moot and useless for Gen Z men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:08 PM |
| 1 | What parts of hypergamy do you disagree with?The birthrate is Norway is 1.4, which is still significantly under replacement levels. This is a population half-life of 1.67 generations, so assuming this birthrate persists, the Norwegian population will still collapse to 10% of the original population within just 5.67 generations, which is roughly ~120 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:58 PM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersProcreation is necessary for the propagation of one's genes. Fighting armed strangers in a foreign country over a $400 cellphone/handbag isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:29 PM |
| 2 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menYour usage of the term "sperg" is quite telling. In any case, I would like to see statistical evidence that most modern women would agree with you, i.e. that they would not see gaming as an "interest". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:27 PM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersHave you been robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint? If yes, did you risk your life fighting over a cellphone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:25 PM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf the situation was reversed, would you expect the woman to risk her life to fight the two men over a cellphone? Also, if she cowered away in fear like this man did, would you shame her and call her a pussy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:24 PM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThen why should society lambast him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersNo, but this particular woman was dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersHe was correct not to risk his life over a cellphone/bag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:18 PM |
| 4 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menA lot of the redpill men will continue to cope, because hope is a powerful drug, even if the hope is false. Bluepilled people can freely do whatever, because life is sunshine and rainbows for them. If it gives you any consolation, understand this: 1) Many of the redpilled copers will inevitably descend into the blackpill 2) Bluepilled people in many way are similar to the cows you see grazing in the fields without a care in the world. They live in blissful ignorance. But their bubble could burst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 10:23 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersRedpillers are aging out of existence. Blackpill is the new redpill, and no blackpiller is touting about his protector qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 09:44 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersRight that's what irks me, the fact that many of the women shaming him don't hold themselves to any standards at all as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:50 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersNo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 07:08 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWho is saying that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:18 AM |
| 3 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersSo why didn't he use it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about men’s problems.Women ask what men bring to the table because women are the table. Men bring romance and women bring sex and that is how it works and how it always has worked and will continue to work for as long as men are men and women are women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:47 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersHave you ever been robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:46 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf he was the one being attacked trying to protect his phone, would you risk your own life by fighting the armed men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:45 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersOne of the patriarchal privileges that men enjoy is the gendered classification of household chores and childcare as women's work. Men's provision in exchange for this privilege is their protection. So if household chores and chilcare are split 50/50, then men be relieved of the obligation to protect? I am not choosing what my wife has to do. I don't even mind doing 100% of the cooking since I enjoy cooking. But if a woman expects me to split household chores 50/50, but then expect me to sacrifi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:43 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThese is just gender essentialism. There won't be consensus on this, no use arguing it. The real question is whether or not society as a whole should shame him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:31 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersFinally a sensible take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:16 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersHow did you respond and manage to survive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:05 AM |
| 3 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menTo most women in your own life, which is a small subset of the world's female population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:04 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWere you ever robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint? What did you do in those situations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:03 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersBut would society lambast her for cowering away in fear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:02 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI see, so if the situation was reversed, and it was the woman cowering away in fear, should she be publicly lambasted by the Internet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:01 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersAs a point of curiosity, have you ever been robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint? What did you do in those situations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 03:09 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI agree he should have called the cops or alerted bystanders. But if he had an obligation to protect her physically, what obligation does she have to him? I am not asking for protection, clearly she can't protect him if she doesn't have any weapons. I am asking if this is just pure gender imbalance that favors women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:55 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersEven if they got themselves in the situation, and you instructed them to escape and they didn't heed your warning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:54 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersSo if a man was attacked, his woman should fought the armed robbers despite not having any weapons or training herself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:47 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI don't know of men who are branding themselves as such. Do you? I brand myself as a provider sure, but not as a protector. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:45 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersShould he be shamed for assuming that his intervention would get him killed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:45 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersYou said that in a physical conflict, the physically superior partner (which is almost always going to be the man) should defend the other partner. Sure I can get around this. What obligations, if any, does the other partner have? Or is this a purely one-sided obligation that is imposed on men by women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:44 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersBecause the vast majority of robbers are motivated economically, and it is unreasonable to assume an individual robber is out for blood. I guess you could argue that the panicked and fought due to panicked confusion. But then you could say the same for the man, and that he fled due to panicked confusion. So any argument that excuses her from stupidity ought to also excuse him from cowardice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:42 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI agree he could've done more to help without risking his own life, such as calling cops and alerting bystanders. But he was right not to directly intervene for the sake of "chivalry". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:35 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersNot sure, but let's assume for the sake of argument that they were dating. If they were not dating, there isn't much to debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:33 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWhy should physical strength dictate the expectations in a relationship? That sounds like gender essentialism coded in a way that benefits women at the expense of men. Are there any expectations on childless women that you wouldn't expect from men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:31 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersList one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:30 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIs it cowardice if the man was the one being attacked and the woman decided to flee? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:28 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersYou would "choose" to risk your life to fight armed robbers (when you yourself are unarmed and possibly untrained to fight) to protect an individual who prioritized a handbag over their own life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWho is cosplaying like this? A man can be tall and muscular for the purposes of being attractive, not necessarily for the performative gender roles and gendered expectations that comes along with those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:25 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI see, then you are logically consistent. There are "egalitarian" women on this sub who don't believe in traditional gender roles for women, but hold men to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:24 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThis isn't a branding issue. This is critiquing society's expectations on men while not holding women to any standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:23 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI would research the crime statistics ahead of time, and not bring any valuables with me if traveling in public, and ask my family to do the same thing. But suppose they did have valuables and we did get robbed, I would calmly instruct them not to resist. If they panicked and the attackers escalated, then yes, I would defend my mother (I don't have a sister). I don't know if I would defend a woman I was dating. It would depend on how deeply I am in love wit her and on whether we already have chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:20 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersWhat is the argument here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:15 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf a gallant man such as yourself should want to protect a woman, what should a dainty damsel want to do for her man (that he is isn't also doing for her)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:11 AM |
| -1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersBut would you leave your mom or your sister to die if she did something stupid like panic? This literal situation happened to my family before and it was my mom instructed me and my siblings not to panic, and to just give them what we had. If, after instructing me to do this, we still resisted and the robbers became aggressive, then absolutely my parents would step in to defend us. The obligation that parents have to children is far stronger than what a man has to his girlfriend. I think childre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:08 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThese are just gender stereotypes you're generalizing to men as a whole. Individuals can be attracted to each other for whatever reason. The woman can leave the man if she thinks he was too cowardly. He can also leave her if he thinks she's a dumbass. I wouldn't blame either of them for choosing to do what's in their own best interests, both during, and after this incident. But why should society shame him? The only reason I can think of is holding men to traditional gender roles, while not hold… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:02 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersClearly not if you made the original comment that you did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:00 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI actually agree he could have called cops or called bystanders. But should he have directly confronted the robbers himself? I was saying she was justified(since you said it was dumb) to resist and defend herself because of there not being a guarantee the muggers would desist after being given what they demand. For that same reason, he should have helped in some way to help increase the odds. And, preferably, help in some smart way like going to others for help in a fight. What she did was in fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:58 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf I was traveling with my best friend in a country known for its high violent crime rates, and we were attacked by armed robbers, I would absolutely give up all my stuff, and calmly ask him to do the same. This is exactly what happened to my family many years ago. If my friend resisted like an idiot, and he died because of it, then I would just acknowledge it as a sad tragedy where he made a bad decision and paid dearly for it. I certainly wouldn't follow in his stupidity. Realistically though,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:55 AM |
| -1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersHe didn't know the bystanders would intervene on her behalf when making the decision to run, nor would it have been a worthwhile gamble to assume that they would given that he was just a tourist who arguably knew little about the country or its customs. Why do you think the mugger would stop after getting cash or whatever it is they're demanding? I think it would be reasonable for him to intervene if the muggers continued the attack after she voluntarily gave it to them. That isn't what happened… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:52 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersI'm not moving goalposts. I'm trying to isolate what obligates someone to intervene and risk their own life on another stupid person's behalf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:49 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersAnswer my last question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:48 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersReinforcing gender essentialist stereotypes are we? Is it a man's job to protect his woman? If so, what is a woman's job? And if your platonic male friend was dumb enough to risk his life against armed robbers over a bag, and you were dumb enough to risk your own life protecting his stupid decision, it says more about your intelligence than it does about this man's cowardice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:47 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf a random man was robbed on the train by another armed man, would you intervene and fight that man? If not, should you be shamed for it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:46 AM |
| 4 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersYeah I won't be branding myself as a protector if it means risking my life to save dumb women haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:45 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThe reason women are not agreeing now is because many women will impose one-sided gender roles which benefit the woman at the man's expense, but not roles which benefit the man at the woman's expense. You are welcome to believe it is a man's job to protect the woman. What do you think a woman's job is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:44 AM |
| 6 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersInteresting you would assume so much about me based on so little. I guess I can put an end to your delusions. My whole family was highway robbed while visiting a foreign country. The robbers were armed with knives and machetes, and my parents calmly instructed me to give up what I had on me (wallet and cellphone) while my mom hid her jewelry and wedding ring in a secret compartment in the car. I absolutely do not blame my parents for complying with the robbers, as we would all have been dead if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:42 AM |
| -4 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThis is the fairest take, although if she does hold him to traditional gender roles, she had better hold herself to them as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:39 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf that happened to my brother, I would immediately scream at him to drop the bag and let them have it. Everyone in my family would do the same thing if I was the one being attacked. This situation happened to me before, where my whole family was trapped by highway robbers in a foreign country while traveling. My parents hid their valuables, and instructed me to calmly give up my wallet and phone, and not resist at all. I owe them my life for instructing me to do exactly that. I certainly wouldn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:37 AM |
| 1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThe outcome of this particular situation doesn't prove that her actions were correct, she could just be lucky she didn't get injured. It really depends on how much you value the purse against your own life in a foreign country known for its high violent crime rate. The locals happened to be there able and willing to protect them, but the man doesn't necessarily know that. So he can't assume that when making the decision to flee. What he can decide is that his life is worth more than the bag, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:34 AM |
| -1 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersIf I was being mugged, I'd ask myself if the thing I was protecting is worth more than my life. If it isn't worth more than my life and I'm still fighting for it, I don't know if I would expect someone else to be dumb enough to do the same thing as me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:31 AM |
| 2 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersBecause she easily could have been, and there are many robbers who do use lethal force against their victims if they are met with resistance. She took a very bad gamble, especially considering she knew she was in a foreign country known for its high violent crime rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:29 AM |
| 5 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersCoward because he values his life over risking his own life against armed robbers for a purse? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:28 AM |
| 0 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersThe robbers were armed. They were in a foreign country. They have no idea what gangs these muggers are associated with or what weapons they have on them. They also don't know what degree of lethal force muggers would typically use in these situations. A purse can be replaced. It is a financial loss at worst. If the man intervened and the muggers used lethal force, he would be dead. I guess if you are saying that death is better than cowardice, then be my guest, but this is an indefensible positi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:26 AM |
| -5 | This man should not be shamed for running away while while girlfriend gets attacked by muggersA Rehab Room viewer on PPD? Man of culture I see. In any case, I am saying that the social judgment on him is wrong, that's all. He did the right thing. The woman was an idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 01:24 AM |
| 2 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menWhy makes you an authority on deciding what constitutes an interest and what doesn't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:19 PM |
| 1 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menThis is where the redpill falls short, and as redpilled men age, those who lose the rat race will then get sent to the gulags of the blackpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:15 PM |
| 2 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menBull fucking shit lol. Even if there were 2 men for 1 woman, and half the woman "opted out of dating" leaving you with 4 men per 1 woman, that just means you need to be top 25%. Again, easily achievable barring extremely extremely bad genetics. Nobody is denying that it is achievable. Anyone can win a race if they try hard enough. The point is that eventually, once the race is over, there really will be a bottom 75% of men who have nothing at all. Obviously, you can blame them and say they had t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:10 PM |
| 4 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menI see. Based on the way you speak, I'm not at all surprised that you're autistic. It seems like you're assuming that I am making excuses for myself. This is far from the case. I am not making excuses for myself, I am just acknowledging that many dating markets are simply rigged due to imbalances in gender ratio or due to many women opting out of dating. How old are you, do you live in a first world country, what is your height, ethnicity, body fat %, and what is your body count? Do you have any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 10:24 PM |
| 3 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menWhat a shitty analogy you made up to cope. That is not the example IRL, 90% of dudes are losers. Regardless of who you think is a loser and who isn't, in an imbalanced market, some people are ultimately guaranteed to fail. Obviously, people should still try to succeed when they are young, but ultimately, not everyone is going to win. You seem to have success. Good for you I guess? You being successful doesn't really disprove my point though. It just means you managed to make it. This isn't just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?It doesn't really matter which way you define it. There is still going to be a latent variable, and there are going to be pairings (X,Y) which do not occur because the woman Y deems the man X to be beneath her in SMV. Anyway, I don't think you need a math/CS PhD to observe in your own life that the following things occur: 1) Female groupies exist, male groupies do not. Female celebrities do not have sex with their male fans. 2) Famous male musicians, like Drake and Ross Lynch, are sleeping with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 08:32 PM |
| 5 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menSuppose you have an island in which there are 10 men and 9 women. Even if all 10 men are rich handsome charming "alpha males", one of them is guaranteed to not have a woman. Does this mean that he is a "loser" or that it is "on him"? He is going to be blackpilled, regardless of the level of effort he puts into getting a woman, if the 9 other men try even harder than he does, and there are only 9 women in total to go around. And you're not even taking into account genetic limitations. I assume yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?Defining SMV purely in terms of market outcomes renders it meaningless, especially in a modern dating context where it is possible for one man to date multiple women (or vice versa). Chris Brown has dated many women, including Rihanna. Does this mean that all those women have the same SMV as Rihanna, since they have all dated Chris Brown? Answering yes to this would cause the entire concept of SMV to collapse to a singular value, where all humans have the same SMV. Instead, it is more meaningful… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 11:44 AM |
| 11 | How Red Pill Alpha guys are worsening the situation for menRed pill is just a transition phase for most men between blue pill and black pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 10:49 AM |
| 6 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?Hypergamy isn't about money specifically, it's more about general SMV, which is a combination of multiple factors (whose relative importance as you correctly identified can change with age). The main principle of hypergamy is that women do not date down relative to their own SMV. They may date up or across, but never down. This is what my brother and many other boys/men realized early on, and which I never noticed until later in life because I was an autistic nerd for most of my childhood and ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 09:57 AM |
| 2 | You shouldn’t be labelled as simp for wanting to spoil your partner and by showing a lot of affection towards themMen trade romance for sex and women trade sex for romance. It is men who give romance but receive no sex who get labeled as simps. Likewise, it is women who give up sex but receive no romance who get labeled as whores/sluts. Basically, you are made fun of when you're getting ripped off by the opposite sex without realizing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 09:48 AM |
| 5 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?It's interesting you say that because for a long time, I thought my own brother was blue-pilled. After all, he is conventionally attractive and has no issues attracting women. I very recently started discussing the topic of hypergamy with him, which is something I wouldn't have ever done before, but he basically revealed to me that he's always known that hypergamy is a thing since high school. He was surprised it took me so long to learn about hypergamy, he thought all men learn about female hyp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 09:37 AM |
| 1 | ''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill isThis is only believed by redpill men. Blackpilled men have accepted this for a long time and moved on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 08:14 AM |
| -1 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?Call me a crazy conspiracy theorist but how do you know FDS isn't a bunch of CCP-operated bots trying to suppress Western reproduction of humans? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 07:44 AM |
| 7 | Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience?Most men (and perhaps even most women) in real life are redpilled or blackpilled to some degree. They are just masking since revealing their thoughts in public surely wouldn't be the smartest mvoe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 07:33 AM |
| – | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultSex is low value. Even men think so, based on how they treat women that have sex with them quickly they aren’t taking these women to meet their parents. They aren’t treating them like the can be a good partner. Men tend to reinforce the idea that sex with them is something that makes women worse. The reason why men treat promiscuous women this way isn't because sex is low value. It's because often women who are promiscuous have other issues like low self-esteem and bad impulse control. If a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 10:17 PM |
| – | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultI think slut shaming is wrong. I want more sluts in the world, not less. Why would I shame them? I think the men who slut shame, and then crave female attention are just idiots. That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with just wanting to spend time with someone to use them for their bodies. I wouldn't mind if someone did that to me, so I wouldn't really mind doing that to someone else. Men have a biological need to be able to enjoy sex, women do not, over the years, this mindset h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 09:17 PM |
| – | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultAnd, it’s the underlying feeling that some men genuinely do not see women as full people, they just see them as a means of getting off or continuing their name. Are you saying that of someone uses you for sex, they don't see you as a person? If so, what's wrong with this? I wouldn't mind being used for sex by a woman, so I'm struggling to understand why this is so bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 08:40 PM |
| – | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultThe money analogy is flawed because if a woman "uses" a man for money, he gets nothing in return. If a man "uses" a woman for sex, she is also getting sex in return. So it is a fair exchange if a man uses a woman for sex, but it isn't a fair exchange if a woman uses a man for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 08:37 PM |
| – | Getting laid as a guy shouldn't be this difficultWhat's the issue with just wanting the physical stuff? What makes it so difficult for women to ok with just being physical where it is simply fluids being exchanged? Is it a biological difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 07:55 PM |
| 6 | Why is virgin used as an insult if sex and relationships are supposedly not important?I am not saying he should give up. I am saying his chances of success are extremely low, and that he should at least mentally prepare himself for the very realistic possibility that he will end up forever alone. It does require him to evaluate what he wants out of his life, and what is realistic for him to achieve. This isn't negative. It's called being realistic. What you are feeding him is false hope, which is far more toxic and detrimental to his mental health. You don't know what he looks li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 07:44 PM |
| 9 | Why is virgin used as an insult if sex and relationships are supposedly not important?You may be resigned but 46 still gives you time Im not giving him false hope. I am telling him that if it happens, I hope its with someonr he likes You imply here that there is hope for him. Statistically there isn't. Jesus not everyone is bitter and twisted like you. Maybe if you practiced an ounce of positivity, maybe people wouldn't be so repulsed by your blatant negativity In my experience, people are more repulsed by the fake toxic positivity which you exude than by honest negativity which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 05:45 PM |
| 0 | The equality women want is actually largely about innate inequality "made right".Are you a vegan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 01:40 AM |
| 1 | What was your longest dry streak?Sure, you're not really disproving what I said though. A volcel cannot empathize with an incel's feeling of not being desired by anyone, but a volcel can empathize with the incel's feeling of not being desired by people whom one desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 12:44 AM |
| -2 | The equality women want is actually largely about innate inequality "made right".Morality is subjective. Your morals might not be the same as someone else's. It is really just a belief you construct in your own mind to benefit you. It isn't a part of reality itself. When two people shoot each other with a gun, someone will win, and that is an objective reality. It is not a part of anyone's mind. It is a change in the universe itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 11:24 PM |
| -1 | The equality women want is actually largely about innate inequality "made right".What is the basis for objective morality? At least strength and power are objective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Where are the TikToks of men being angry towards women?Misogyny isn't allowed on Tiktok. Misandry is though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't red pill men actually adapting anymore?Just another humblebragging post it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 10:25 AM |
| – | Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience?One ChatGPT query debunks U entirely, just check: "did all men frequent prostitutes in year 500" Nothing of what I said is conjecture. I'm not sure how old or educated you are, but the poor English and reliance on GPT as an authority without even knowing how to phrase questions correctly to GPT is telling enough. You don't even know how to query GPT. You asked the bot the leading question ""did all men frequent prostitutes in year 500". Of course when you ask a question with universal quantifica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 09:57 AM |
| 6 | The overwhelming majority of women don't initiate or make the first moves because they are cowards.Can you imagine if most men completely gave up on dating because they got a reject it a few times when they made the first move on a girl? Most of the human civilization would die off very quickly but women being women have the luxury of giving up on making the first moves. Women for the most part do not care if human civilization dies off because men aren't approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 08:46 AM |
| -1 | What was your longest dry streak?Sure, but you'd have to have felt the feeling itself at some point and remembered having felt the feeling for it to be considered empathy. I don't think you are capable of empathizing with inceldom unless you yourself are an incel or have been an incel at some point in your life. You can empathize with other volcels or standardcels if you've been a volcel or standardcel yourself, but not with incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 07:38 AM |
| 27 | Why is virgin used as an insult if sex and relationships are supposedly not important?Stop feeding him copes. He is very likely to die without love, or companionship. However, this need not be a good or bad thing, depending on his own philosophical perspective towards these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 07:23 AM |
| -1 | What was your longest dry streak?Empathy definitionally requires feeling having felt before exactly what someone else is feeling. I think you're confusing sympathy/compassion for empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 07:15 AM |
| – | Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience?I see you aren't a student of history and are underestimating how much more common prostitution was back then than it is today. Prostitution in the classical, medieval period and Renaissance periods was significantly cheaper than modern prostitution. A big reason for this is that the supply was much higher and the demand was generally lower compared to today. The reason for the higher supply is due to the higher number of widows, servants, slaves, and women abandoned by their husbands. Remember … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 06:54 AM |
| 0 | If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean?What's insane? You're the one who implied that women don't sleep with men on the first date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 06:04 PM |
| – | Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience?It was the norm even for peasants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience?From about 500 to 1950, the norm was actually for men to lose their virginity before marriage, usually to prostitutes. Women were expected to be virgins until marriage, but in cases of premarital sex followed by pregnancy, a shotgun marriage was usually arranged. I'm not saying I recommend this, only that this gender performative has indeed held throughout this time period. I think nowadays though, the median woman will have had more total premarital sex than her husband, due to higher reproduct… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 07:46 AM |
| 1 | If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean?If a woman sleeps with some men but not others on the first date, then it is possible (and perhaps likely) that is because she doesn't find them attractive enough, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Aight what should be the solution for gender wars ?Shift the Overton window in western universities so that feminist ideology can be questioned and critiqued and gender issues can be discussed without people getting relentlessly canceled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 06:59 PM |
| 0 | If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean?Are you implying that there aren't woman who would sleep with a man they are attracted to within a day of meeting him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 06:17 PM |
| 1 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneWhat's wrong with sex tourism then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneAh ok, the way you worded your responses implied to me that there is something wrong with it. The part I think is wrong is the bragging and doxxing, but the actual sex tourism itself isn't bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 06:12 PM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionDo you genuinely think most couples involve a pathetic, desperate man dating a frigid, unloving woman and giving her money and resources for her to open her legs for 10 minutes, then they go back to avoiding each other because they otherwise hate each other? This is unfortunately true for probably most couples in the world as a whole. Perhaps not as true today as it was throughout history, but the majority of couples throughout history were formed out of economic necessity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:42 PM |
| 2 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneAnyone who travels for the sole purpose of having sex is doing sex tourism. You can call it whatever you want but it’s sex tourism. You’re not traveling to travel, you’re traveling to have sex. I’m not changing my phrasing because the way many ppbs talk about the women they have sex with isn’t respectful in the slightest. They don’t care about the women they’re banging. They only care about getting laid. What's the issue with only wanting to get laid? Are we really going to act like excessive to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:32 PM |
| 1 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneI think western women are fetishized in many parts of the world due to their overrepresentation in pornography. So there is some appeal for the foreign men, but perhaps not much for the western women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:42 AM |
| 2 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneWould it be sex tourism to travel somewhere within your own country where the gender ratio is more favorable? Is it sex tourism because it's traveling for the purpose of sex or is there something more to it? I agree that posting the pictures online and bragging is in very bad taste, but I don't fundamentally see what's wrong with visiting a country whose women you find exotic and who find you exotic and having sex with them. If it's done under false pretenses or without consent then that's obvio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:35 AM |
| 1 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneI think that what they're saying, if we put it into your analogy is: the price of milk is going up as dairy maids used to be forced into being dairy maids, but not they can find other avenues of work, and choose not to be dairy maids. Some milk companies realise that dairy maids were taken for granted and compensate them fairy, others do not and look to other places where dairy maids are still taken for granted and underpaid, and promise those dairy maids a somewhat better life. They also seem t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 05:21 AM |
| 5 | Are men more likely to accept a woman’s more promiscuous past if he’s had less experience?It's the opposite. The more experience he's had, the more forgiving he will be. Men prefer women with less experience than themselves, as sexual experience and sexual leadership is a male performative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 04:29 AM |
| 1 | What's so bad about being friends with women anyway?I like being friends with women who are more than just their looks. But if a woman has nothing going for her but her looks and I were to get friendzoned by her, there would be no value in that friendship for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 04:25 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionI have no idea what you are saying, I apologize if this is offensive as English isn't everyone's native language. Sure he can be a liar, scammer or hypocrite, but that isn't evidence that his beliefs themselves are right or wrong. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. I wasn't scammed by him or by anyone. I don't know Myron that well other than the occasional funny clip from his podcast where he ridicules the double standards that some women have when it comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 04:23 AM |
| 2 | It's All ProstitutionI see. Your situation is impressive, and most people in your circumstances would be statistically unlikely to escape poverty. Obviously it depends on other things too like upbringing, environment and the decisions you made and life habits you adopted and the belief systems you held in the process, but most women from working class backgrounds will marry a working class man and remain in poverty. But some of the more attractive and adventurous women may turn to sex work, sugaring, or just marryin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:23 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionA man can vouch for RP beliefs and yet fail to practice them himself, just like an alcoholic father can teach his children to avoid alcohol while still being an alcoholic himself. Him failing to practice what he preaches doesn't prove or disprove whether alcohol is good or bad for you, it only proves that he is a hypocrite. What does determine whether alcohol is good or bad for you is science, and science alone. So if you are argue against RP beliefs, argue against RP beliefs, not against what s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 03:13 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionRP just means recognizing human nature and the sexual dynamics of humans to improve one's SMV. Some individuals claiming to be RP but then simping hard doesn't prove or disprove any core RP beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 02:59 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionProstitution is transactional sex. Most men are not attractive enough to get sex in exchange for just sex, they have to supply something else as well, whether it is romance, money, humor or whatever. That something else makes it transactional, and therefore, makes it a form of prostitution. The only non-transactional consensual sex is a man who has sex with a woman offering absolutely nothing to her in return other than his own body. If she gets something from him more than just his body, it's t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 02:52 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionI didn't, because it's 20 minutes long and I don't have 20 minutes to spare. Perhaps you can summarize the key points from it which bolster your argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 02:49 AM |
| -1 | It's All ProstitutionWhy do you hate Andrew and Rachel so much? What have they done to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 02:48 AM |
| 4 | It's All ProstitutionRP or BP was never against escortmaxxing iirc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 02:32 AM |
| 3 | Would you find it weird or embarrassing if your long term girlfriend proposed to you?I'd be cool with her proposing, especially if she is also paying for the ring(s). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:51 AM |
| 0 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneIs this response in jest? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:18 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionI agree, but I would argue that in many cases where men do these things, they do so knowing that the woman would not have sex with them if they did not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:17 AM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionSo if a man takes a woman out for dinner, buys her flowers, buys her gifts, cooks her food, pays her compliments, holds the door and umbrella for her, makes her laugh and listens to her problems and then in exchange receives sex, is that not prostitution? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:01 AM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionRight, and I suspect you are upper middle class at the very least to have that much in savings. This means both you and your partner are likely also college educated. It also means you and your partner both likely come from privileged backgrounds. You are not a gold digger in part because you can afford to not be one. So your ability to have such an egalitarian relationship is in itself a major luxury which the average couple will not have. Even one nice vacation a year is not at all common, eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:55 AM |
| 4 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneWhat your competition does will always affect you. If I sell milk and my competitors leave the market, then the price of milk will go up, which in turn benefits me. This is true regardless of the quality of my milk or the quality of my competitors' milk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:32 AM |
| 1 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneWomen from first world countries won't see this as a solution. By virtue of being hypergamous, they won't be going to third world countries to marry poor man. They might however go to a different first world country like Italy or South Korea to find men whom they find exotic, but are still on the same SES as themselves. But I don't know if that's considered being a passport sis, as the passport itself isn't really being leveraged as part of one's SMV in this context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:30 AM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionBut is it prostitution as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:29 AM |
| -1 | It's All ProstitutionSo if I gave a student an 'A' in exchange for her giving me a blowjob, that isn't prostitution to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:23 AM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionWould you say the average woman is like this too? If not, do you understand that you are an outlier and that many relationships are in fact transactional to some degree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 11:16 PM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionI don't think your interactions fall into prostitution because they are symmetric. But in a lot of relationships, the woman expects the man to buy more gifts for her than she expects to give him, and do more romantic gestures for her than she is willing to do for him. In my opinion, such an arrangement does fall under the umbrella of prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 11:14 PM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionIn a sense, yes. But there's nothing wrong with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 10:42 PM |
| 0 | It's All ProstitutionIf he engages in romance or gestures which you would describe as being "romantic", then he is effectively exchanging romance for sex. That can be considered a form of prostitution since you are bartering sexual access to yourself in exchange for his favorable romantic gestures/acts towards you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 08:24 PM |
| – | It's All ProstitutionI might go far as to say that all sex is prostitution, to the extent that the exchange of romance for sex can be termed prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 08:23 PM |
| 3 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Lol I've got no problems with taxpayer dollars going to making women having bigger boobs. What man would complain about this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t need empathy from women. They need compassionOnly red pillers grift and sell "advice". The black pill is reality-based compassion distilled to its purest form. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 06:15 PM |
| 0 | Men of Reddit, do you think a man should have an opinion of how his wife is dressed?If both of those are disliked by your partner, then yes, in the ways that matter, they are the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 05:11 PM |
| -4 | Men of Reddit, do you think a man should have an opinion of how his wife is dressed?The difference is wearing clothing isn’t the same thing as getting an erotic massage. In what way are they different? They seem similar in the ways that matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Fisher's principle will soon be false for humansThis is a strong argument, and I now stand corrected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 12:17 AM |
| 0 | Fisher's principle will soon be false for humansThis reasoning seems fallacious. Let's assume that there is a mutant gene which produces daughters over sons at a 20:1 ratio. Daughters will always be able to reproduce and produce grandchildren. Even if the daughter is unattractive and crippled, she can use a sperm donor (sperm is infinitely available) and then use AI to raise her children. Sons might not be able to reproduce if they don't provide any functional benefit, since sperm isn't a scarce resource. So this mutant gene would propagate i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 07:35 PM |
| 1 | If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict?1) The less societal pressure there is on women to marry, the more hypergamous women as a whole will be. 2) The lower the woman's socioeconomic status, the more hypergamous she will be. 3) The lower a man's socioeconomic status, the more hypogamous he must be in order to find a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 04:47 PM |
| 32 | The average woman would fail at dating as a MenDo women even deny this anymore? Men have always had it worse than women in dating. I don't think there has ever been a time or place in history where men had it easier. The only saving grace for men is that the dopamine hit from successful dating is much stronger for men than it is for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 09:23 PM |
| – | Is it true women will always have more value/suitors than men in the dating market?Just because women had no choice to marry doesn't mean it was easier for men than it was for women. It might have been easier for men back then compared to men today, but that doesn't mean that men had it easier back then compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:11 PM |
| – | Is it true women will always have more value/suitors than men in the dating market?At what point in history was it easier to date as a man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 03:03 AM |
| – | Is it true women will always have more value/suitors than men in the dating market?This is a biological fact of most mammals. The female has higher intrinsic mate value than the male. It is known as Briffault's law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 03:00 AM |
| 4 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsKeep in mind that you don't even know who you're arguing with online. That online troll you're arguing with could be a 15 yo kid, a mentally ill person, a homosexual who's trying to talk to you about heterosexual dating. I remember arguing with a blue pill guy here and a few months later they came out as a trans woman. What do people like this even know about hetero dating Not just that, the person you're arguing with could also be a CCP-controlled AI bot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Women who have traits that would be undersireable in men should not bear sonsThroughout history, a woman's reproductive value has been determined by a different set of criteria than the SMV of the sons that she would produce. It does not matter that her sons would have low SMV because she herself could still have high SMV. A low-IQ autistic short disabled woman with big boobs and a curvy butt could still easily get a men to impregnate her and invest resources in her so regardless of what you think she "should" do, she will easily be able to find a man to reproduce with. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 03:46 PM |
| 3 | Women who have traits that would be undersireable in men should not bear sonsI think in the west, where there is access to welfare services, being poor as a man isn't as big a disadvantage as being short. As a rich short man, at best you'd find a goldigger who simply wants you for your money and will likely divorce you and take your money. She might even do this before you have children with her. Also bear in mind that many women in the west are fine making their own money, and don't need a man for money. A poor tall man would still be able to seduce and impregnate a poo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 03:30 PM |
| 5 | Women who have traits that would be undersireable in men should not bear sonsWhat's the argument in this comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 03:27 PM |
| 2 | (CMV): A Far-Right / Socially Conservative Backlash Is Inevitable Given the Current State of the Western Sexual MarketplaceI think society would actually end faster with someone like Zohran. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:56 AM |
| 3 | Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men?Macken Murphy explains this very well here: https://youtu.be/oOIEIEXH_f4?t=2852 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The red pill is driving women away from men and is central to why modern dating sucksWhat makes a belief misogynistic and what are some examples of RP/blackpill beliefs which you would consider misogynistic? Would you consider the claim that women are hypergamous to be misogynistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?But why stop at Glocks and not extend it to rocket launchers and armed drones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 01:45 PM |
| 3 | Male-Only Ukrainian Draft is the Ultimate Proof of Selective Gender Equality (i.e., Equality in Rights, but Not in Lethal Obligation).Then how do you expect the country to defend itself during war? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 10:18 AM |
| -2 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?4 is more likely in countries with weaker standing armies and where there is already existing military training even amongst most civilian men. But in most Western countries, I think 3 is the most likely. Once the men in 2 and 3 die out, then it's between 1 and 4, and eventually 4 will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want the end goal of feminism. Bonnie Blue is the living proof.If barely legal is bad, what age would be considered good and why not make that age the legal age? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Women don't want the end goal of feminism. Bonnie Blue is the living proof.Her TikTok is a poor source to look for criticism, because it is more likely to be represented by people who approve than disapprove of what she does. A more unbiased collection of opinions can be found on the comments of neutral media sources like news or documentaries. You will find plenty of female haters in those spaces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 08:23 AM |
| 4 | Male-Only Ukrainian Draft is the Ultimate Proof of Selective Gender Equality (i.e., Equality in Rights, but Not in Lethal Obligation).I think one option to solve this is to restrict voting to only those who have served in the military. It would make sure that the only people allowed to vote are people who actually have some skin in the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 08:04 AM |
| 0 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?I predict one of these things will happen, or perhaps some combination of them all: 1) Young men will go all in on Looksmaxxing (like Rorz and Clavicular) and use women to support them financially. It will basically be like the reverse of 1950s, where men are the eye-candy stay at home husbands, and women are ones earning the bread. 2) Men will double down on religion and go full monk. Perhaps a new religion will be formed around men and men will live in monastery-like communities. 3) Full escap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 07:46 AM |
| – | Men, would you date a woman that’s expressed she’d never pay for anything?Yes if she was hot enough. The hotter she is, the less I'd expect from her in other domains. This is the correct answer for most men, whether they'd like to admit it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Why are Men are obligated to pay but women are not obligated todo anything?I agree with this take. I would be more willing to pay for a woman who is more attractive to me. To me, whether or not I pay is going to depend primarily on how badly I want to have sex with the woman. It is a reasonable position, and it makes sense for women to strategize accordingly around this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Are there viral Blue Pill dating experiments?Are those men Americans? All 3 of them would be incels here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Are there viral Blue Pill dating experiments?She isn't here to debate. She's here to state her opinions as fact. She's always been this way. It's just a hobby of her's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Are there viral Blue Pill dating experiments?So then shut the fuck up lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Do you think ugly/undesirable women think they’re going to bag some Brad Pitt lookalike? Cause I don’t think that is the case. This part is false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 02:08 PM |
| 3 | Why are Men are obligated to pay but women are not obligated todo anything?I think it's fine for a men to pay for a date and set a providership dynamic if it's something he is ok with and something the woman is also looking for. It does mean the relationship is more transactional, but that doesn't have to be bad. I don't mind providing for a woman, especially if she is very attractive (to me). I just don't like it when it's by default expected of all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 11:26 AM |
| 0 | We live in a Post-Alpha world where “red pill alphas” are nothing but mythologized male whores.You're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 10:21 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.OK ty for the response this was quite informative actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.I see. Female hypergamy (and equivalently male hypogamy) is more pronounced in short-term than long-term dating. If you were doing one night stands, how would you go about finding one and would you have had a ONS with any of the man you're currently dating or would it be with men who are physically more attractive than them? Also, what was your physical type prior to dating these men and did these men fit that physical type? If not, why did you date the men who did not fit this physical type? An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 08:08 AM |
| 2 | The patriarchal agenda: setting up men and women up to fail and be unhappy.Feminist societies are inherently unsustainable and do not last. Patriarchy has proven itself to be very sustainable, via the application of force doctrine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.I'm just saying what you said is false and can't be used as part of an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Do you think ugly/undesirable women think they’re going to bag some Brad Pitt lookalike? Cause I don’t think that is the case. Yes, they will likely have sex with such a man at some point in their lives. If she wants a hookup, she'll easily be able to get a Brad Pitt lookalike. Even if she only wants a relationship, there will be a Brad Pitt lookalike who will use deception to successfully get in her pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.How tall was the tallest man you've fucked and what was his body fat percentage? I'd need some numbers before I can make sense of what you just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.Are you saying it is a male trait to consider things as what they are and not entertain delusional perspectives on things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 02:07 PM |
| 3 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.What if the woman is too ugly to find a man who meets those standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 02:04 PM |
| 2 | If you are a “nice guy”, you cannot just choose to become an “asshole”It seems you are deflecting a little and adjusting goalposts. It seems you concede that manipulative chads aren't necessarily born and that often they are made through circumstance and effort. Does that sound like well adjusted behavior to you? They adapted to the modern dating landscape to achieve their dating goals. By definition that is well-adjusted. Wouldn’t intimacy be more intimate if you told your partner the truth about yourself? It doesn't matter too much if the goal is just sex. But e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 01:02 AM |
| 4 | If you are a “nice guy”, you cannot just choose to become an “asshole”Women who are well adjusted and confident (you know, the ones who would actually be interesting) are essentially invisible to them Why do you assume that the women that would fall for manipulation are not worth pursuing? What's wrong with having sex with an attractive woman who is easily manipulated? Every person I’ve ever met like this is violent and dangerous So would you consider dating coaches like Austen Summers and Alex PWF to be violent and dangerous? I haven't heard of a single situation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameSome of them say those things. How do you know that it is most? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameSo how do you know that the men here have low self esteem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameCan a man with high self esteem not enjoy being viewed as a sex toy by women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 10:01 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameBut have you had good sex with unattractive men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameSex for women is often mixed to negative. Unless the man in question is sufficiently attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameIt's still not clear to me why being valued as a sex toy is a bad thing. I don't think anyone wants to be valued as a wallet, regardless of whether they are a man or a woman. As a man, I have absolutely no issues being seen as a sex toy. So I'm still not sure why you would take an issue with it. The wallet analogy makes no sense, because the wallet is not even a part of who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameLike wemare roasting my brother for marrying a women from a poorer family despite her earning similar to him. I don't see how this example proves your previous statement. The man's family caring about a woman's finances is not the same as he himself caring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:51 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameMost men here, or most men in general? Are you suggesting most "normal" men don't crave female validation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameDoes my comment not make it obvious that the answer to your question is yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:31 PM |
| -1 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameI would prefer to be valued for my body, which is a part of me, than for my money, which is not a part of me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:25 PM |
| -5 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameCan you explain why you think being viewed as a sex toy is worse than other things? Personally I wouldn't mind being viewed as a sex toy by women, so it's baffling to me why some women such as yourself would view this any differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 05:43 PM |
| – | The mesosphere not blaming men for creating fatherless kids is the biggest proof they don’t believe in male accountability.Artificial insemination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 03:24 PM |
| – | The mesosphere not blaming men for creating fatherless kids is the biggest proof they don’t believe in male accountability.Children are born to women, not men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 03:06 PM |
| 2 | As a 36 year old virgin, I'm worried about the rise of sexlessness among today's youthOK now we're getting to business. I agree that food, water and air are needs, in that death is guaranteed should one be deprived of any of those things. Shelter and medical care are a bit more dicey. There are homeless people who survive without shelter. Unless there is a weather hazard, shelter isn't a need, at least in the same way that food and water are. Healthcare is on a spectrum. On one end, there's emergencies that need to be treated fast or you will die. On the other end, there's things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 07:57 AM |
| 1 | The mesosphere not blaming men for creating fatherless kids is the biggest proof they don’t believe in male accountability.Men don't choose to have children. The choice to have a child is a woman's. The man has no say in it. She can baby-trap him if she wants to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:59 AM |
| 4 | Why do women dislike the bottom 50% of men?I've seen tons of my female relatives swipe on dating apps, and say "Eww" to over half the guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesWhy play the game when it is rigged from the start? Why establish a career when the end result is to just beta bux for some used up mid tier woman like Akash Singh did only to get divorce raped up the ass? AI sex robots, video games, and porn won't divorce rape you. Btw, I say this as a Millenial man with a high paying job. But black pill ideology didn't exist when I was in school. My (perhaps delusional) belief that money would get me success and happiness is what motivated me to get so good at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 06:50 AM |
| 1 | As a 36 year old virgin, I'm worried about the rise of sexlessness among today's youthWhat would you say makes something a need? For example, do you think all people deserve free healthcare or housing? What about food or oxygen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 05:55 AM |
| 2 | As a 36 year old virgin, I'm worried about the rise of sexlessness among today's youthLibido is very much gendered. There is a gendered sex-deficit, with men desiring sex far more than women, and the fact that there are more asexual women than there are asexual men. Are there women who love sex and sexual variety as much as men do? Absolutely, but there are few and far between. Not many women are like Bonnie Blue. Most men, on the other hand, would sell their left nut to be able to fuck a 1000+ women in one day. You could make a (weak) argument that the deficit is not innate but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 05:52 AM |
| 3 | As a 36 year old virgin, I'm worried about the rise of sexlessness among today's youthDo you have any suggestions for an atheist on dealing with resentment towards women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 05:49 AM |
| – | Coming back with my most unhinged take yetAre you saying that you will fuck any man that satisfies the above three, even if he is short, fat, bald, ugly, autistic, poor, and disabled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 05:46 AM |
| 3 | Women associating the male loneliness epidemic with violence is just a smoke screen, and tactic use to shame men back into adhering to traditional masculinity.This is correct, but not just riches. Women from conquered tribes were also a key component of the spoils of war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Women associating the male loneliness epidemic with violence is just a smoke screen, and tactic use to shame men back into adhering to traditional masculinity.Married men might be more prone to violence, but historically single men are the most likely to participate in gang violence, terrorist organizations, organized crime, and armed insurrections. But other than that, I agree with you basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:25 AM |
| 0 | I think all women would be happier singleWhat would be the most respectful way to approach wanting a threesome? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?There are many reasons why many men value purity in women. For some it's a dealbreaker, for other it's a slight preference. There's nothing wrong with having standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:54 AM |
| -1 | I think all women would be happier singleWhy would you resent for him for just asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:51 AM |
| 0 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?Because virginity is part of being feminine. I would consider a woman less feminine the more promiscuous she is, and the less feminine I consider a woman, the less effort I would put into her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Men have absolutely no legitimate reason to be angry at womenMany species engage in coercive mating, where female choice is ignored or bypassed. Do you think humans should be more like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 05:30 AM |
| 8 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?You're entitled to your own opinion of what is gross, just as I am entitled to find a woman has 'been around the block' to be gross. I am not obliged to treat her as well as I would treat women who are purer, just as she is not obliged to date me. What is unfair about this to you? If it's not unfair, what exactly are you complaining about? And when I say treat well, I don't mean being respectful, because everyone deserves respect. I mean romantic gestures like buying gifts and going on fancy dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 05:25 AM |
| 14 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?Ah, the good old impose gender roles on men but not women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 05:09 AM |
| 10 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?I think only virgin women deserve to be courted "properly". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 04:22 AM |
| -2 | I think all women would be happier singleWhy? What's wrong with just asking? Nvm your flair explains a lot. Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 08:36 PM |
| 1 | I think all women would be happier singleYep that's what I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 07:12 AM |
| 0 | I think all women would be happier singleWhy not have both? And if the answer is that there's nothing wrong with having both, why not ask for both? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 01:20 AM |
| 0 | I think all women would be happier singleWhy not ask your wife if she'd be open to it if it's something you'd consider? The worst she can say is no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 01:19 AM |
| 1 | How is a man the 'leader' in a relationship?If there is a disagreement and an impasse is reached, then what would the tiebreaker be? If it's the man, then that's one key characteristic of a de facto leader-type position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 11:17 PM |
| 3 | I think all women would be happier singleIf your wife gave you the opportunity to have a threesome with another woman, say one of her friends (and the friend was attractive to you and willing), would you take it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionI see. So you are one of these women then. Dr Sullikowski was right then. I pity the women dumb enough to listen to you. Thankfully most of them won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Certain parts of female sexuality give men the ickWhat makes you an authority to speak for all women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionI can't tell if you're being serious with this argument. Perhaps you were one of the lucky ones to find a man who loves your shaved head. If so, you are obviously an outlier. Most men don't want shaved heads, so a woman looking to keep a large pool of men to choose from would be nuking her odds of finding a man by shaving her head. But you don't care about others as long as you have your nice little life, so you do you I guess? Your beliefs and genes will die with you anyway, so I think most of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionMost men would be viscerally repulsed by these | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionI'm all for these. And have done most of them. Why am I not surprised? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionDanielle Sulikowski has already explored this concept in her work. https://quillette.com/2025/10/03/how-intrasexual-competition-suppresses-female-fertility-dani-sulikowski-quillette-cetera-ep-54/ Note that there are actions which women perform as forms of intrasexual reproductive suppression such as: - Encouraging other women to shave their head - Encouraging other women to get tattoos - Encouraging other women to get septum piercings - Encouraging other women to dye their hair blue or green - E… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 08:42 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.My point is that currently women depend on men for the enforcement of their rights, and that this is a timeless constant that will never change. The same not true for ethnic groups or for other classes, because they may at some point gain military superiority (and they have in the past). It is even possible for gay men to take over the world, despite how few they are in number. Though this has never happened, I do not consider it a theoretical impossibility in the same way I would consider women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 07:57 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.This is a fair point, but doesn't really negate my point either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 06:20 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I disagree with this on a historical basis. I don't think Genghis Khan used resources to attract women. He just killed their male relatives and raped them. No ostentatious display of wealth or resources. Just brute force. Killing off women is just not an option for men's reproductive success ideally they want as many women alive and well and to themselves and to harm other men who are their competition. Killing isn't really necessary. My point is that resources aren't necessary either. You can j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 06:17 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.There is no male revolution against women, because men do not have a unified interest to fight for. Men want women to like them, not oppress them as tyrants This is true as of now, but not a theoretical impossibility. It could be in the perhaps near future, depending on how widespread the gender war becomes. Would you harm women if there are no other men holding you back? No, but there are men who would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 05:00 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The enforcement of the government's laws is done by men. These men, if they collectivized, could overthrow the government. Military coups are a thing. The question is why you are convinced this would never happen in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:56 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.What resources do you mean? And what enabled men to get those resources and prevents them from securing those resources with force? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:51 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Yes, but in the future they might not be. Whites have a numbers advantage in the US, but that isn't a timeless constant. Their numbers are dwindling worldwide. Due to Fisher's principle, women will never have a numbers advantage over men. And women collectively pitted against men will never succeed at defending their rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:44 PM |
| 6 | How would dates and marriages work If the average woman was much wealthier than the average man?Once again, Briffault's law proves itself correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 10:06 AM |
| 2 | It's not going to get betterEven in some patriarchal countries the birth rates have dropped significantly. Is it the births per mother that has gone down, or the percentage of women that are mothers? Because those are two different things that can affect the same statistic. Religious societies impose heavy pressure on people to have children, but not necessarily many children. So I suspect people are still having children, but each family is likely smaller now than they would have bee in the past. This isn't necessarily ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 10:04 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.But men have access to those weapons too. My point is that unless women can overpower men in some domain, but men can overpower women in several domains, how could women resist a male revolution against them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:59 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.If women are able to design, build, transport, and operate such machines to the same effectiveness as men, then I agree. But I suspect they cannot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:57 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Other than physical force, is there any domain in which women could, without relying on men, effectively resist a group of men united in the goal to enslave all women? It's true power isn't just about physical strength, but on all the other things which it is about, do women actually outperform men (or even perform as equally as men do)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:55 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.My entire point was that physical force is not the primordial factor when it comes to establishing a permissibility structure. Physical force is the main factor. All other factors are merely multipliers of force. If there is no force, there is no scope in which to exercise any influence. There is a reason why a nation's ability to negotiate is only as good as its military, and not as good as its diplomats, economy, or even its cultural influence. The diplomats and comedians do not dictate the te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:27 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.It's funny that your name is CopeDestroyer, given that your responses consist mainly of copes. America elected Thomas Jefferson too, who was an actual slaveowner. Bill Clinton was also a rapist and possibly many other presidents. Slavery was legal during the Revolutionary War. Also, Bill Clinton isn't and has never been a rapist. Are you even American? Trump isn't any worse than them, so you are massively overestimating the effect his election has. This is a matter of opinion, which you seem to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 08:45 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.No, because there have been battles won by black armies against white armies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:53 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Damn, you sound powerful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 02:44 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I see. I accept your resignation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 02:43 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Am I giving you too much credit if I am hoping you make an argument against the doctrine itself and not the person who came up with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 02:42 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.While it is true that other forms of power play a role, it is not obvious that women have a monopoly over those things. It seems equalized in the forms of power and deception you outlined, but in physical strength, men are superior. Also, it is true that force doctrine entertains a hypothetical, but under some set of conditions, that hypothetical can become a reality. I don't think the current form of feminism can sustain itself indefinitely against such hypotheticals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:07 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.OK, so you can start by arm wrestling the middle school boy you teach, and then come back to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:00 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.My guy, you live in a fantasy world untethered from reality. First off, incels are neurotic, agoraphobic losers who can't even talk to women, yet you expect they will be a legitimate revolutionary faction? If incels had such balls on them, they wouldn't be incels, because they would have all the cunt they could ever want. Second, why would anyone publicly ally with incels, whose driving ideology is enslavement of women? Literally no revolutionary force ever would want to do anything with you, si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:00 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Based on your response, I would go as low as 11 year old boy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:50 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.This would be true in a world where men have access to all the resources. Now that women outearn men, this is no longer the case, which incentivizes many men to overthrow the current system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:49 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I agree, my point is that even in the context of social power, the top men would outperform the top women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:48 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The current system doesn't really benefit most men. Most western countries are gynocentric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:47 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The majority of men would never allow their children to be subjugated, nor would they allow another man's child to be. Just because something is a possibility doesn't mean it can/will ever happen. No man would allow his children to be subjugated, yet most of the Middle East subjugates its own women. On top of that, the men in the US voted in a rapist misogynistic president. So I guess it's not clear anymore which side the fantasy is on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:45 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The psychological influence is used to manipulate individuals to bring them to your side sure. But the actual battle is won by force, not by manipulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:16 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.If all the African lions in the world decided to coordinate themselves and overthrow the government, they would not succeed. So your argument is invalid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:14 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.But who does the government's job? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:11 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Nobody has to change for what I said to be true. What I said is true by virtue of men's monopoly over force, which you seem to accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 11:09 PM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.But there are many that don't commit suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.But who enforces them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:09 PM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.It wouldn't be a fight to the death, and women wouldn't prefer death over enslavement. If this were the case, most Afghan women would be committing mass suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Right, which is why I said humans evolved a combination of sexual strategies, not just one. I think it is a last resort for some men and a first resort for others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:59 PM |
| -1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.A 16 year old boy can take you by force if he wanted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The level of violence men could inflict on women is completely limited by the fact that they need women to be alive and well to even procreate with them. On the flip side men’s well being isn’t all that necessary for procreation one because men don’t gestate offspring but also because one male could impregnate multiple females. In simple terms men are more disposable then women this explains why more violence is actually inflicted on men by other men than onto women by either sex. Societies figu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I see. Are you saying that the crisis among men is women's intentional doing? Is there any evidence that women did this intentionally with the military aim you stated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Female orgasms evolved to help them pick out the males that are the most invested. It also helps us to, you know, actually want to have sex in the first place. Why is the female orgasm not required for conception? If it had evolved to be required for conception, then rape wouldn't have evolved as a sexual strategy for men. Coercion is a cheat strategy that any species can employ. Rape is the most convenient way to make babies. Cannibalism is the most convenient way to get calories. Yet these are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Not to be disrespectful, but what any of this have to do with force doctrine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I have no reason to believe this, especially in the heavyhanded scenario of men just outright declaring complete enslavement of women. It's exactly why, even if this scenario actually happened, it would fail at the very beginning, because enslaving half of the total population would be a logistical nightmare, especially since many men would also resist and fight for women's rights. It already happened in Iran and Afghanistan. Once firmly consolidated, liberal republics are the single most stable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:37 PM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights."Either you treat me as an equal or I will poison your food." kind of threats? Physical force is not the only way to get someone to do what you want. Manipulation is also a big one. Firearms. Empty threats. Besides that, I do not know a single man of my generation who would use physical force against a girlfriend. You know how many men? Relationships and laws change because values, morals and narratives change. Women's fight is not a physical one. They don't take anything from us that we don't w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.None of this is relevant to force doctrine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.What do you mean by this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.So what? No seriously so what if police forces are men. It doesn't mean that their benevolence automatically spreads on all men and none on women. That's just false dichotomy. We can say weak and strong with just the same result. Payed by government and civilians with just the same result. It's a manipulation tactic to feel like you have something to do with things that you're not. You personally have no power about women's rights. Sure, but it's still possible that men as a group can subjugate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.This would be true if the female orgasm/consent were required for conception. Since that isn't the case for humans, men could use force without appealing to women for access to reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.What's the purpose of pointing this out? Force doctrine still applies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I agree, though men's unwillingness to use force to remove women's rights is something feminist political scientists and many feminists in general seem to often take for granted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Implying this is a timeless constant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.This sounds like mostly word salad without an overarching point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Would I be overestimating you if I said I expect a reply that is an argument against force doctrine, and not an attack against Andrew? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.No, humans evolved a combination of sexual strategies. Coercion is not uncommon in humans, many humans are descended from Genghis Khan, and his sexual strategy was primarily based on coercion. Also, I think coercive strategies might occasionally benefit the female as it reduces the effort required by the female to pick out the most dominant male. I think there is a reason the female orgasm is not required for conception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Sure, but so what? Are you insinuating that a whole military force will be deployed to forcibly enslave women, including machine guns, tanks and aircrafts? Because that's completely wack. What's far likelier to happen is the Iran scenario. It's unlikely to be needed because women are unlikely to resist. More likely than not women would just surrender their rights without putting up an actual fight. Yes, liberalism, probably the single most staunch socioeconomical ideology ever developed and acti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:20 PM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Good thing there is no time in history that your scenario has ever occurred species wide I think the Iranian revolution of 1979 is close to the scenario. Note that there are many men and women who opposed the revolution due to their rights and freedoms being lost, but none of this is relevant in the face of superior military strength. There are likely more. You will never get any amount of men to agree en masse to behave the way you describe. First off, "I" will never do any of this as I have no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:03 PM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Including pity sex to placate the masses of undesirable men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.But they would still lose to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.No, patriarchy exists because of men's monopoly on socioeconomics; men do not rule through physical force, but through social myths and greater hold of resources, both being interdependent. Besides, guns exist and they are the great equaliser, so the physical superiority of men is rendered meaningless in the face of bullets and grenades. Guns aren't the equalizer. Machine guns are heavy and bandoliers full of ammo are also heavy. The physical effort currently required to load tanks and aircraft … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.He had power by virtue of his understanding of the physical universe, which is itself useful in an industrial and military context. So while he didn't have raw physical strength, he still had the analytical and spatial intelligence which enabled him to decipher many aspects of the universe. I'm sure there are women who are good at physics too, and their insights would no doubt be of use to a hypothetical female military that was aimed at overthrowing the patriarchy. That said, it is unclear to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Because they're too weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I find it interesting how most comments from women having been attacks on Andrew and not on the argument. Why is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.According to evolutionary theory, coercive mating strategies tends to be more important (in contrast to female mate choice) in the following situations: - Low parental investment by males - High population density/encounter rates - Weak female control over fertilization - High sexual dimorphism among stronger males - Environments where coercion does not reduce male fitness. If the above conditions aren't met, natural selection doesn't favor coercion as much, and the female is likely to exercise … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.It has everything to do with physical strength and coordination of that physical strength. There is no coordination to revolt against the government because there isn't national consensus among the military. If there was, the military could easily take the government by force. This has happened numerous times in many countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:17 PM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I'm not excusing the patriarchy, nor do I disagree with you. I am just disagreeing with the notion that feminists fought for and won their "rights" and "independence" from men. These rights are not as permanent or immune to usurpation as many feminists might have you believe. A large majority of men can overthrow a minority of powerful men. It has happened in the past, and no nation is fundamentally immune to violent revolutions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:13 AM |
| -2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Would I be giving you too much credit if I expect a response to the argument itself rather than some random attack on AW? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:09 AM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.All those things are irrelevant when pitted against raw physical strength. Even so, the greatest tacticians are all men. The greatest anything is always going to be a man. This is due to the variability hypothesis. In any military engagement, female deception and sex appeal are irrelevant. Men will just forcefully impregnate women and that alone will have greater psychological consequences on the female army than any kind of honey potting or feminist propaganda would have on the male army. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Many dictatorships are still going, and even if they end, it is often for reasons that have nothing to do with women's rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:59 AM |
| -2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Which woman opened that pickle jar? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.All powers are ultimately subsumed by pure physical force. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:49 AM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I think so, not sure tbh. I don't like most of what he says, but the force doctrine seems to make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Women's control of sex is nowhere near as strong as men's monopoly over force. It's not like women can withhold sex from men in exchange for mercy, men can just forcefully impregnate women if they so desired. I think female manipulation is only relevant in the context of a system that already gives them protection from men. Absent this protection, the manipulation can simply be ignored and men can use force to obtain sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:44 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.And I think in the modern era of guns and drones, one could easily envision a society where it's even theoretically impossible for men to take away women's rights. This is a fair point but does depend a lot on the various logistics of modern warfare and the type of labor that is required to sustain modern warfare. I think men have a significant advantage today even in the context of drone, cyber, or electronic warfare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:41 AM |
| 3 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Is it mostly men in said jobs? Sure. But most men aren't in those jobs. Men as a whole aren't the ones doing the enforcing. It's the few being paid for it. I made it clear in the OP that "they depend on the compassion of some subset of armed men for the enforcement of their rights". So you're not really disputing what I said. The point is that the people doing the enforcing are mainly men, and this will always be the case, and if men as a whole (not even as a whole, perhaps even a simple majorit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:22 AM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Do most men want to do that, though? You have to be one sick, depraved fuck to rape a woman. Most men are not deranged, they genuinely want healthy, loving relationships. They also have women that they care about: their mothers, sisters and daughters. Would you be okay with your female family members being turned into sex slaves? I thought I made it clear that the force doctrine isn't justification for patriarchy. It isn't a moral argument, it is a purely sociological observation. It is just ack… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Your claim is that most dictatorships eventually "erode"? Any evidence for this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.That shit erodes slowly in those circumstances. What is the "shit" specifically, that you think "erodes" in most circumstances? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.well look at the quality of life for everyone including men in Afghanistan rn. it's not exactly going well for them by any metric. I don't know what your definition of "killing your mind or conscience" is but the results evidently aren't great According to who? You or them? Give me some specific metrics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:05 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.It is a debate, intended to challenge the view that women and their rights exist independently of men. Women are not independent of men. They depend on men, as a whole, for the enforcement of their own rights. This is something which some feminists seem to dispute. Hence why I brought it up. The average man can do little by himself, but as a whole they can do a lot: - Serve in armed militias/armed revolutions - Civil disobedience and organized protests - Spread propaganda and awareness - Vote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:03 AM |
| 3 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.What's the argument here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:01 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Yes but you and Andrew used it an argument for why patriarchy will necessarily exist, I reject that because men being stronger than women does mean patriarchy would exist. You can say it means that there is an underlying potential for the men to dominate women in patriarchy and that this doesn’t happen because of the goodwill of men who hold power in that society but this isn’t the same as the previous argument. This is a matter of semantics, specifically as it pertains to the definition of patr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Whoever said they did? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Police and military protect people because they are paid by the government, not because women appealed to them. It's a public service. Police and military people have the monopoly on violence due to membership in state security forces, something which requires far more than "men are stronger than women on average" level strength. These forces comprise primarily of men, and money isn't the only motivator for why they do what they do. The potential to go rogue always exists, and there is always a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:37 AM |
| 1 | State-sponsored prostitutionThis is a fair take, but it doesn't take into account the men that use deception in dating to get casual sex. I'm still not convinced why those men wouldn't disappear if prostitutes were readily accessible to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:31 AM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.This is one of those situations where men aren't a monolith so it makes no sense to theorize about them being such. They aren't a monolith currently, but they certainly can be if they desired to organize themselves as such. In fact, I think American men are more of a monolith than people might otherwise think. Were this not the case, I don't think we would have elected the president we currently do. But yes, not a complete monolith. Yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:28 AM |
| 6 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Both those countries have powerful militaries, and neither is dependent on the other except in the importation of certain goods. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I don't know if the Taliban soldiers "killed their own mind or conscience" when reclaiming their country from the American-puppet Afghan government. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.I'm answering your question. Men collectively organize if they are dissatisfied enough with the status quo. Access to guns, cyberweapons, and the ability to disrupt the economy are powerful forces that can destabilize a government that civilian men have access to in many parts of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:22 AM |
| 0 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Andrew’s force doctrine isn’t an argument for patriarchy it is just an observation of the sex differences between men and women. Andrew thinks it is an argument that makes patriarchy necessarily exist but it’s not patriarchy is a system where men hold the primary power and privileges in society his argument is just an argument for why men are and will be the primary warriors and defenders of a society. Yes, I thought I made this clear in my post. I would also like to point out that his force doc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:20 AM |
| -1 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The powerful men have always used power to enslave all of the other men for their own benefit. Yes, but such men can and often have been usurped in a revolution or coup d'etat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:19 AM |
| 1 | State-sponsored prostitutionIt wouldn't. If men just wanted sex, then yes, those men wouldn't bother dating. But most men eventually want love and companionship, neither of which can be gotten from a prostitute. They would approach dating with those things in mind, which aligns with the goals of most women looking to date as well. This would improve dating for everyone, as it would disincentivize the bad actors who claim they want a relationship despite only wanting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:09 AM |
| 1 | State-sponsored prostitutionNo it increase men's seriousness in dating. A lot of men deceive women who want relationships so they can get sex. If they can easy access to prostitutes, why would they do this, given they can just get free sex from prostitutes? Dating would become more serious and there would be less mind games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 12:47 AM |
| – | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou just proved my point that the corporations benefit from welfare more than the employees do. If you remove welfare, the corporations will be forced to raise wages so employees can survive. Removing welfare is effectively a wealth transfer from corporations to the government, which I think you would agree is a good thing. Also, you didn’t identify an actual incentive or program only women are eligible for. Why do I need to identify a program which only women are eligible for? Single mothers be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 05:11 AM |
| – | How is sex with an ugly male provider?I too would not want a man's duck inside me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:51 AM |
| – | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSure, you are welcome to donate your own funds to such causes. Don't FORCE your beliefs on others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:48 AM |
| – | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIt's delusional to think you can have zero taxation. It's never going to happen. It's also delusional to think that you can raise the standard of living without a welfare state. Cutting benefits will just ensure more homeless elderly, more homeless children, more illiterate, more uneducated, more crime, a less safe country, a worse economy exc. I am not arguing for zero taxation. I support taxes used to build infrastructure, support the sick, disabled, elderly etc. What I do not support is welfa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:47 AM |
| 1 | How MAGA Hijacked The Manosphere!Sure you need some minimum amount to close the deal, but most of it now is looks and being neurotypical. Looks and being neurotypical carries most of the weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?You are competing against other (presumably American) women. The bar is pretty low. Just stay in shape, be supportive of your partner, make him feel desired, and impose on him the same standards as you did to your prior partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:25 AM |
| – | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThis isn't how economics works. If SNAP pay is completely removed, the groceries will be forced to raise wages or else losing their labor force to starvation. I'm not going to fund degenerates who are lazy and incompetent. You are welcome to, but I will be doing everything in my power to make sure my tax dollars aren't going to freeloaders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:20 AM |
| – | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIt's only collective good because the burden primarily falls on high-earning single men, and not the low income men or women who continue to live degenerate lifestyles and expect to then leech off of the rest of society. It's just self-serving bias taken to its logical conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat's your educational background? I ask because I don't want to teach you mathematics you might already know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSure but the vast majority won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 03:39 AM |
| 1 | How MAGA Hijacked The Manosphere!Game is irrelevant in the age of online dating. Game has been replaced entirely by the black pill and looksmaxxing. It has nothing to do with politics or religion, and everything to do with technology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.I can’t see what she says, but she looks likes the type to finger herself to murderers. And this is relevant because...? He was a spoiled brat. He was. I agree on this. Yes he did. Proof? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateNo, because the wealth transfer is from single men without kids to single mothers. Single women are also net payers of taxes, but for them this is a form of insurance since they could potentially end up as single mothers someday, so it is in their interests to support such welfare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 03:28 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIf society can do something to reduce that struggle there’s no reason we shouldn’t help. Technically we could live alone in the woods but as members of society that’s not necessary. Why do you want the poor (the majority of people) to struggle? Sure if you want to help them go ahead. Don't impose that on me. It's not my responsibility. Some people do live in the woods, I have no issues with that. Also, I don't want the poor to struggle. I want them to stop having children they can't afford and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThat's fine. I will be voting against such policies and encouraging others to do the same and raising awareness about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThat's not gonna convince me to change my mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.I have zero idea what the relevance of this comment is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIf you are working you can still be below the poverty level. And you need to pay someone for childcare. How exactly do you propose these people get food? Steal it? That kids be fed is a non- negotiable. The US is not a third world country. Can you find me an example of someone in the US who works a full time job and is below the poverty level? If they are unemployed then I can understand but if they are employed, how would that be possible? Give me specific examples. By the way, I support benefi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 11:09 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateNope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 11:05 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI’m saying that you can’t force anyone to take care of a child. If both parents don’t want the child, it goes into the foster system, which you pay for right now, like it or not. The state tries to get payment from unwilling parents, but when they are unable, then they are left footing the bill. Good. If you can't force a dude to take care of his own child, how do you expect a random dude who is not his father to take care of that child? The state shouldn't assume this responsibility. It should … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateOK so you don't want fathers to take care of their children. Then take care of them yourself? You can skip your next meal and give it to a poor child. Stop imposing your morals on me and live them yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 07:52 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateBut that’s not what you illustrated at all. You just illustrated that all adults pay for all children, nothing about transferring wealth from men to women. Children are not “women” and adults are not all “men”. Men are still net tax payers, and women are net beneficiaries. This is an effective transfer of wealth from men to women via taxes and welfare. We live in a civilization, it has some morals enforced. Things like not murdering, not stealing, and not allowing disabled people or children to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 07:49 PM |
| – | Women do care about men’s issues….. when it’s not sex related.Why do you think the argument is bad faith? I gave an example that people give hugs out pity. If that is appropriate, why not extend it to sex? Why would that be bad? Can you actually argue against this without just touting bad faith? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 07:25 PM |
| – | Women do care about men’s issues….. when it’s not sex related.Why shouldn't they? What's wrong with having a culture that normalizes and encourages pity sex? People already give hugs out of pity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:27 PM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAre you kidding me? Food is a need. If you can’t get food then the government provides it to you. Same with Medicaid. If you are poor, you get government health care, because health care is a need. And it’s not just poor kids on Medicaid. Adults of both genders qualify too People can get food without getting handouts from the government. There are poor countries that lack state welfare. People are still surviving. Lack of food will kill you. Lack of sex will not kill you. Knock, knock. Hello? Do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYup I agree. Until I have children myself though, I think I'll continue voting against these policies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThis is true. I should become a deadbeat dad is what I think this all boils down to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:15 PM |
| – | Women do care about men’s issues….. when it’s not sex related.What's wrong with sympathy sex? Would you decline if it was offered to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAm I going to tell you to go build a hospital since you're fine with free healthcare? You should if I imposed the tax burden of funding a hospital on everyone else, including people who don't benefit from healthcare. But that would be absurd, because everyone does benefit from healthcare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:44 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateOr I showed proof but the deniers go “no! Only the proof the way I say it is counts!” You didn't show any proof. You linked opinions, not data. Do you know the difference between opinions and data? I notice you're getting defensive and deflecting a bit. Take a deep breath, and then try to find a source with actual data. If you are unable to do this, you might want to start considering the possibility that you've been brainwashed by propaganda and are actually wrong. I don't care about Myron. He … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'm not trying to appeal to the subjective evaluation of compassion, its just something I'm not that bothered about. OK, so if you're not bothered about it, you can pay my share of the tax burden to fund the lifestyles of children of deadbeat parents whom you profess to care so much about. Everyone's happy then. Right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statePeople being stupid is bad period. It doesn't matter whether the person is rich or poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou don't want to define need? Why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:21 PM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateStill not a need. What makes something a need? Explain why government handouts are a need, but sex isn't. Do not dodge the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI follow it by paying taxes. I walk the walk by agreeing with welfare and following through on it 💀 is that not enough? Start a charity for the children of deadbeats and put all your savings into it. But you won't do that will you? Selfish prick! Have compassion for others! Anyway that was sarcasm and I'm not that sorry. I'm not in a position where i can make you stop paying taxes or make taxes not go to that, but good luck with that. I see, so you have no argument than other than appeal to subj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateOr I showed overwhelming evidence which (which also have links to the studies within) I asked for a source. What you linked isn't a source. They are opinions written by others. Find the actual source. You made the claim, so the burden is on you. Don't back out. You're a strong feminist. I believe in your ability to find just one source! Surely you are capable, right? Dudes just don’t want to admit what people already know. I'm asking for a source. I won't admit anything until you've found me one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateDoes it really? Is that why my country elected Trump? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:57 PM |
| 5 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highWomen are completely clueless when it comes to dating dynamics since they don't have to put in any effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIt’s not. That’s why they go to prison, even more so than rich people with good lawyers and bribe The rich who do wrong should also go to prison. I don't disagree with you on this. We have decided what needs are. Sex is not one of them Who is we? What makes something a need? Governments handouts aren't a need. There's poor people in countries that have no welfare system that are surviving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:56 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIt's just sad. You're all so wrapped up in your gooner gender wars mindset that everything is a fight to you against the other sex. Sure frame it how you like if it makes you feel better. Doesn't change the argument. Paying for kids and elderly in your country (you will get old one day too and you will most likely need people like you now paying for you) is somehow cucked to you and is wrapped in this individualist mindset. An accident could happen to you tomorrow and you might need those benefi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateBecause it affects others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWe need children born to responsible parents, not irresponsible parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhy are you comparing “average single man” to “average single mother”? Shouldn’t you be comparing “average single father”? And include how much child support men owe but don’t pay, causing the children to need government assistance? Both parents are responsible if a child needs that, not just women. Both single fathers and single mothers are tax beneficiaries. I only compared men to women to illustrate the hypocrisy that feminists ask for equal rights, yet when it comes to taxation, demand the n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:45 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAnd? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:37 PM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat makes something a need? There are poor people who survive without others. So handouts from the government isn't a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateExplain why this is relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statehttps://www.blackburncenter.org/post/the-link-between-racism-and-sexism#:~:text=Sexism%20is%20also%20connected%20to,people%20exist%20on%20a%20hierarchy. This is not a peer-reviewed source. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012160621000336#:~:text=Abstract,and%20sexism%20associated%20with%20them. This doesn't support anything you said, there is no data, no charts or tables in this paper. It is an opinion piece. https://www.rutgers.edu/news/do-racism-and-sexism-go-together#:~:tex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:31 PM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateLink an actual peer-reviewed source instead of youtube videos made by non-scientists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:14 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statePresumably they didn’t create those children alone and if anything they are reducing the tax burden by caring for those children instead of abandoning them to the state as opposed to the men who are equally responsible for their creation and have abandoned them. Both the men and women are responsible for their own children. The men who abandon their own children should be punished, I made this very clear in my OP. Can you read? At least half of those children are boys, do you resent those funds … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThe people who should step up to "foot the bill" are the child's biological parents. Anyone else is welcome to help out of their own accord. You like kids of deadbeats? Go raise them yourself with your own money and walk the walk you talk. Stop forcing other single men to who have and want nothing to do with those children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSure, I support tax dollars being used for infrastructure and healthcare. Not for lazy parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateNeither is raising children you can't afford. So why do they do it then? Are they that stupid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat does this have to do with being forced to pay taxes to help others propagate their genes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:07 PM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou also dont understand what cuck means but at some point its your job to learn something, history has shown your wrong so many times over and all the men you should look up to would be shamed to see the selfishness and lack of civic responsibility you have. The same can be said for you. You don't know what a cuck is, you're wrong and history has repeatedly shown idiots like you have no idea what you're talking about, and you should be ashamed for lack of intelligence and virtue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWe do not consider sex a need, nor violence an inevitability Why is violence an inevitability for the poor but not for the sexless? Has no one committed crimes due to sexlessness? And what makes something a need? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateCan you read? I already said I support using tax dollars to support benefits for the elderly, the disabled and the sick. I don't support using tax dollars to support lazy parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateInteresting that you keep bringing up cost-benefit analysis. By the same token, incels who become mass murderers should be given free sex, since the benefits of people not getting shot should outweigh the cost of a few escorts paid for by the state. Correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAnd you're just a pussy who likes being cucked. Not gonna argue with my point huh? Defeated so easily? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSo why not try explaining it then, as you seem to be an authority on the subject? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.No he wouldnt. There are a lot of women who admit he is attractive and would've likely dated him if he wasn't weird or misogynistic. I already linked a conventionally attractive woman who still obsessed over him. I don't know why you're still disputing this. Yes it is. Most humans who do wrong usually do so for a reason. This is highly philosophical, but unless you can prove that evil is a part of one's nature and not one's circumstance, then you can't really blame individuals for everything the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateEqual rights also includes the disabled, the ill, the elderly, and the poor, did you know? Among those are also men Yeah, I support welfare for the disabled, the sick and the elderly. I am less inclined to support lazy parents who had the option of not having children they knew they couldn't afford. Those tax dollars also don’t take into account the massive amounts of unpaid childcare and domestic labor that women provide How is this relevant? There is still a forced wealth transfer from single … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:22 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThey do, but single men are net payers. They lose more than they gain from the government. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:13 AM |
| 6 | Do you believe your life holds value simply because you exist?Value to myself or to society? I value my own life. Society on the other hand only values the life of women, children, and high value men. The lives of low value men do not have societal value. Low value men are the ones dying in battle, digging ditches, and doing dangerous work like coal mining and doing high-rise construction. They are also the primary victims of murder and homicide. A homeless low value man is less likely to receive compassion from a pedestrian than a dog or a woman. In this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:10 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou shouldn't have to pay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateMy lock example was just intended to illustrate that people act to prevent undesired outcomes that are possible, even if unlikely. An event doesn't have to be likely for it to warrant precautions being taken against it. In general, systems which incentivize bad behavior are subject to exploitation. I know men who intentionally became obese so they could go on disability. This is an example of a situation where a benign system (disability paychecks) were exploited by bad actors. Morality isn't un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateMost women don't become single mothers by choice. Then why do they marry deadbeat men with no jobs? Why do they have children they can't afford to raise? These seem like choices to me. Bad ones in fact. There is no need to make their lives and their children's lives worse by purposely denying them help You can start a charity for them using your own money then. stop obligating everyone else to contribute who doesn't want to. Your seemingly bitterness and resentment towards these women is illogic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSo you think only well-off people should have kids? That's a dangerous line of thinking, both morally and economically. I think people should only have kids if they reasonably believe they don't have to go begging the state to raise them. I don't think this is unreasonable. I hold myself to this standard. I wouldn't have children unless I could afford to. I expect others to follow this. At the very least, if they don't follow this, I don't want to be forced to pay the price for it when I would n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou are debating on dismantling a whole government program because there might be some bad actors. Are you new to politics? This is an economic argument, not a political one. Are you new to economics? No one is gathering money from your neighbors to pay for your lock. No clue how this is relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIf you do not want to live in a country that supports others (the western world) you are free to seek residence elsewhere I am also welcome to stay where I live and voice my concerns with policies which have perverse incentives. Otherwise you are expected to do your share. My point is that it isn't my share to raise someone else's child. That child is their responsibility, not mine. If they couldn't shoulder the responsibility, they shouldn't have had the child. Men here who attack single mother… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:14 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI see. So since you support state-funded abortion and state-funded cuckoldry, you'd be in favor of state-funded prostitution? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:11 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI sympathize with poor people who struggle to survive, but not with poor people who reproduce, and then expect others to pay for the propagation of their genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYes, because men are not incentivized to provide anymore if the role of the provider is replaced by the state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateHow often does this happen? It's a cartoonist representation that is often a joke. It's an exaggeration sure. It doesn't need to happen often though. I could leave my front door open all night. It's unlikely someone would barge in and rob me. But the possibility is enough for me to leave it locked, even if it's a rare event. Incentives aren't incentives when it doesn't actually incentivize people into doing it. This statement directly contradicts itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:07 AM |
| 3 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateRegardless of what others pay and don't pay, it is still a form of state-imposed cuckoldry. Women might not mind being cucked, but I do. If you don't mind paying taxes, you can pay my share of taxes too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAre my expectations too high if I'm waiting for some semblance of an argument from you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat would stop a woman from having 6 children, all with deadbeat men, and getting the state to pay for them? Would they starve to death if she doesn't earn enough to raise them? If not, then some other man or woman is indirectly supporting them. So the incentive is still there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:57 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateA lot of what you're saying is just random name calling. Not much in the form of substantive arguments. I'll have to nope out of this one. You're welcome to read my responses to others though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:53 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'm not making anyone suffer. They chose to have children, they brought it on themselves. My money is my money. Sure, I'm not being charitable. But I'm not causing them to suffer. But if you want to go that route, why do you make men whom you're not attracted to suffer by not having sex with them? Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? Why not lead with that instead of some gender war bullshit? Because it is currently gendered, with men being the payers and women being the beneficiaries, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statePeople should have kids, that is, people who can raise them responsible. Not deadbeat parents who demand welfare from others. We can live in a cooperative society of responsible parents, not deadbeat parents who mooch off of others. Why is this difficult to understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:44 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI really have no idea what you're on about tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat's the argument here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateHow on earth are you going to be forced to pay taxes if you don't report income and don't shop anywhere that has a sales tax? Taxes are legal obligations. I'm not going to debate tax evasion with you. Again, figure it out for yourself. That's what you're advocating for, right? I'm not sure why you're less capable of figuring out how to survive than you expect children to be lol Again, I think ideally we should abolish welfare and just have individual charities for each group that people feel the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:25 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou know no one's forcing you to pay taxes, right? If it's that horrible, get paid under the table and barter Taxes are legally obligated. Stop trolling. Personally, as a child-free woman, I don't think children deserve to suffer for the failures of their parents. Since you seem so eager to help these children, you can take my tax burden and pay that tax yourself. Better yet, the money can come from a charity, and people like you can donate to it to the extent that you see fit. Stop obligating m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:17 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI support most welfare programs like disability and public school. I don't support systems which incentivize women sleeping with deadbeats knowing they can get the state to pay for everything though. This would incentivize men to become deadbeat womanizers as opposed to hardworking members of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateCan there be a welfare system that doesn't incentivize sleeping with deadbeats? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:13 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'm starting to agree with you more. Too many idiots are having children and expecting others to take up the slack. I've seen the movie, and fell asleep halfway through. Evolution is a description of what is, not how we want it to ideally be. It kind of is though, because it dictates what is incentivized and poor incentives eventually lead to societal collapse. If men are not incentivized to be providers, they won't be. As more men become deadbeats, such a society will be displaced and/or conque… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI’ve seen your other replies, so much of your logic goes down to “I don’t want to support other people’s genetics on my dime” - that’s an emotional take What's emotional about it? How do you define 'emotional take'? You can’t genuinely rationally justify it Why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:00 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat's unreasonable/emotional about my position? I answered your question succinctly without any appeal to emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateA system which incentivizes men to be lazy/deadbeats as opposed to being hardworking and providing for their families is bad. To me it's less about the metric and more about what personality traits are incentivized and whether we are reinforcing behavior we wish to see more of and punishing behavior we wish to see less of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSocial programs do not "incentivise women to reproduce with deadbeats." Do you have any studies to back up your assertion? Is this not self-evident from reason alone? What would incentivize a woman to reproduce with financially stable men, if she knew she could reproduce with deadbeats and use the state to raise the children? In normal conditions, natural selection would favor the man who can provide, but in the welfare state, the role of the provider is replaced by the state, so being a provide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:51 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI have no issues with other recipients of welfare. My post doesn't mention them because I have no issues with them. I have an issue with women who reproduce with deadbeats, and expect other men to raise those children. If the children are already born, I think the state should legally force those fathers to raise those children and threaten those fathers with punishment and/or jail. If that doesn't work, then I think there should be charities funded by other women to help raise those children. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:48 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'd prefer for them to not have children with deadbeat men. If they want kids, they can marry a man who isn't a deadbeat. If they can't find such a men, don't have children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'm not gonna engage with the CEO discussion as I don't have strong opinions on it and it's not a hill I'm willing to die on. But I agree with you on the incentives part. Evolution should always favor men who are able and willing to provide, not deadbeat men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:44 AM |
| -3 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWomen being impregnated by deadbeat men and using other men to raise those children isn't supporting the less advantaged. It's just dysgenics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou are a free rider. You benefit tremendously from public works and social spending, whether you realize it or not. I am not a free rider, I am a net payer of taxes. I benefit from public works, but I pay more in taxes to fund those works. Your proposed world would be a dystopia. A world where people are incentivized to reproduce with deadbeats is a bigger dystopia. If so, you are a deeply antisocial person who needs to do some serious self-reflection. I don't need to be lectured by you on what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statePeople are incentivized to be deadbeats, because they know the state will just look after their children. Women and men will not prioritize financial stability in a partner, because they know the state will just raise those children. These are all perverse incentivizes. I thought this was obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:36 AM |
| 3 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateFully agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:21 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSource for this 80k figure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThey are because they carry perverse incentives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:17 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI am happy to serve my own family (and I do). I don't care to serve strangers. You do you and keep serving strangers. Stop obligating my tax dollars to serve them. Also, I support tax funds for disabled people. But not for the lazy or the children of the lazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:15 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateNobody is hoarding wealth in the sense that most personal wealth is actively reinvested into the economy. This is basic macroeconomics. Also, I support children in general. Just not children being born to deadbeats and incentivizing parents to be deadbeats and deadbeats to be parents. Children born to responsible functioning members of society are a prize and I support them. I know men who intentionally become obese so they can go on disability. Do you think that's good? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI am also welcome to try and change the society in which I currently live, if I think it has policies which are anti-utilitarian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:02 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI don't owe anyone empathy. You are not owed empathy by men, just as men are not owed empathy by women. The defenseless child doesn't have to suffer. As you seem so eager to ease the burden on those children, you can shoulder the burden yourself and pay double to triple what you currently pay in taxes. Stop obligating me to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:00 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIf not my own sperm, then the sperm of responsible men who are willing to provide for their children, or for the children of men whom I share a significant fraction of genes with. Not random deadbeat men whom I don't know or care about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateNo. I care about people I am related to because that is my biological imperative. I am not obligated to care about strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:57 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhat makes something a human right? Be specific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI benefit from a generation of children who were born to responsible parents, not deadbeat parents. I do not benefit from a society in which children are born to parents who are incentivized to be lazy and just beg the state for handouts. I do not expect to father every single child. But there are single men out there who are not deadbeats who don't have children who want children, and there are deadbeats impregnating women, sometimes by force or through the use of deception. Society should not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:55 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateThe basic principle I'd use is the following: 1) Are my tax dollars funding something which I, or my loved ones, could conceivably benefit from as responsible functional members of society? The answer is yes to many things like public schooling and healthcare. I am less inclined to support drug addicts and the children of deadbeat criminals, as they simply aren't responsible members of society. 2) Do the tax dollars incentivize behavior which is bad for society? If yes, I don't want my tax dolla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIf you don't like the "welfare state," I encourage you to take care of the people in need in your community and family. That's what people used to do. Until we change the selfishness and greed of our society, we need social programs to help the most vulnerable among us. I agree, and I do this. I offer free tutoring to all my relatives and extended family. I am not inclined to extend this courtesy to people to whom I am unrelated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI would be willing to support children whose fathers died or became disabled due to work or war related injuries. I feel less inclined to support children whose fathers are simply lazy. There needs to be evolutionary pressure against such men. We're a social species. If you want to bring nature into this, you might want to notice that literally no high-sapience mammal species has nuclear families with a sole female caring and a sole male providing. The most beneficial mating strategy for high-sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI am basically incentivized to evade taxes at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:41 AM |
| -5 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYour arguments are somewhat incoherent and poorly structured. I responded to the parts I felt were the most coherent and made some semblance of sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:38 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhich would be paid for with pension funds. I support tax dollars going to pension funds and care for the elderly. What I don't support is the incentivization of women having children with deadbeat men only to beg the state to then raise the children that those men are not willing to raise. Why do you support such incentivization? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:37 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateCooperation is voluntary. State-mandated cuckoldry isn't voluntary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI was raised by responsible parents who provided for me. If my father would have been a deadbeat dad, and my mother would have been a single mother begging the state for welfare, I'd have preferred not to have been born, and I follow this standard myself. I would never impregnate a woman unless I knew with a high degree of certainty that I could provide for our children. I expect others to follow this standard and I do not wish to incentivize others to deviate from it. Do you want to live in a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:35 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIt is already on there. Look carefully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:30 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAbsolutely agree. Again, that future generation can come from my own sperm. I'd be happy for all tax dollars to raise my children. Not other men's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:29 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIndeed I am. I do not want to live in a society where women are incentivized to become pregnant with deadbeat men and then just expect my tax dollars to provide for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:28 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou don't tell the military "You can ONLY use this tax money to support the specific dronestrike I approve of. You can't take my taxes at all for any other purpose." Sure, we elect skilled officials to make this decision, but in general militaries are essential. I guess my main gripe is that state welfare incentivizes women to have children with deadbeat fathers knowing that the state will provide for such children. It bypasses the evolutionary pressure of men being providers and replaces that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:27 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare statePaying taxes doesn't require you to give up your bodily autonomy You're not giving up bodily autonomy by becoming a prostitute no more than you would be by becoming a truck driver to put a roof over your head. Both of them are jobs that require labor. If the services of the truck driver are mandated by the state, why should the prostitute's not be as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:24 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateFrankly, I don't really care what happens to the children of other men. They aren't my genes. There's nothing wrong with me. Most humans are altruistic to kin only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:21 AM |
| 0 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateTaxes are used to pay for infrastructure, not the rearing of children who are born to deadbeat fathers and deadbeat mothers. I'd be happy to pay for the rearing of these children if my own sperm was used to impregnate their mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:20 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI am concerned with the propagation of my own genes, not with the propagation of other men's genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateMy money is going to pay for that veteran regardless of if he did nothing except bomb and rape a bunch of innocent women in a far country. The majority of veterans alive today have done absolutely nothing to protect me. Yet, my taxes should still pay for the PTSD they got from watching their friends accidentally step on his own landmine. I don't want to get too deep into this. In general, militaries exist to protect the nations which they serve. There might be individual soldiers who don't contr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIn what way does a man benefit from raising the children of another man when he could be raising his own? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:10 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateAlso the vast majority of people, regardless of sex are "net takers" by your definition Source for this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI am not defending anyone but myself. I am simply arguing that I have no obligation to support the propagation of other men's genes, when they are doing nothing to support the propagation of my own genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI'm sorry, but are feminists campaigning to make it so only men pay taxes or something? Cause I haven't heard anything like that. Yes. Single childless men are the largest net payers of taxes. Single mothers are the largest beneficiaries. Again, are rich dudes the only ones expected to pay taxes or something? They pay the lion's share of taxes (per capita). So yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:07 AM |
| -6 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateIll just say those who might agree went to public schools, probably state colleges if at all, use public roads, expect police, fire, and emergency services, benefit from courts, proud of their military mighy lol...think those just exist as a given. I am happy to spend tax dollars on all these services. I am not happy to have my tax money used to raise children that are not my own. If those women want funds to raise their children, they could find a man who can actually provide for those children… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:06 AM |
| -4 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWould you be open to the idea of state-subsidized prostitution, where your tax dollars are used so that lonely men can get free sex from escorts? It would be in line with your last sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateCould the same be said for women having sex with single men who are lonely and prone to depression/violence due to that loneliness? Taking care of such men is taking care of ourselves, as we share the world with such men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSo should we be helping them out of pity? Should women be having sex with lonely men out of pity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:59 AM |
| -1 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI pay more taxes to take care of veterans than I will ever use, as I am not a veteran You pay veterans to protect the country. They provide a service from which you benefit. You don't benefit from being cucked against your will. Your mother's physical health to birth you and then her tit to nurse you, My mother did these things out of her own volition. I am not being cucked by the state out of my own volition. roadworkers who built the roads on which you rode to school, police keeping the roads … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateExplain what you mean by this? It's not clear which part you disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:53 AM |
| -5 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou pay for protection from these criminals, not so they can do more crimes. Why are you paying to be cucked by the state? In what way does it benefit you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:52 AM |
| -2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateWhy should a man care about the children of other men? If society doesn't care about the propagation of his genes, why should he care about the propagation of other men's genes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:42 AM |
| -15 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateI can tell you live in the US because of your opinion of the welfare state I am in the US, because I literally used US statistics in my post. The welfare state should exist because it means that those who are less well off, men, women, single mums, single dads, the disabled, the elderly, those who are carers to a disabled person aren’t being put in a situation they are homeless and without food for the simple crime of being less able to work full time or not being in a well paid job. So basicall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:37 AM |
| 3 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highMost men do eventually want to settle down. Just not with certain farming tools. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 12:30 AM |
| 8 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highI have no idea what this has to do with bars being sausage fests tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Do most guys never experience the "talk" with their parents about relationships?The only advice I got from my mom was to stay away from certain farming tools. Dad never spoke to me ever about such things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 11:46 PM |
| 21 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highYou'll find plenty of women at bars who are feeling frisky. No, most bars are sausage fests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 11:36 PM |
| 2 | A lot of "dating problems" seem like "middle class" problems to me.On paper, one would think that the 3:2 gender ratio would mean a paradise for male dating, yet again it doesn't seem to be that way. Advantage doesn't equal paradise. As a college educated man you have a significant advantage over non-college educated men in courting college educated women, assuming all other things are equal. In reality, obviously other factors aren't equal. If you are introverted or ugly, you'll struggle even with the college degree. IF you're an attractive man, the HR thing i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Emotionally immature men typically join the Manosphere.Emotionally immature men typically join the Manosphere. Most humans in general are emotionally immature. School doesn't teach you emotional maturity. Parents usually don't either. So yes, you're going to see a lot of such men in the manosphere too. The biggest reason I say this is these guys struggle to have empathy for others while demanding empathy. Men typically don't receive empathy, even if they offer it. Men who struggle are simply told, by their peers and by their own family, to suck it u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:40 PM |
| 3 | A lot of "dating problems" seem like "middle class" problems to me.Working class men, in particular, men without college degrees, struggle the most out of any group. I can't remember the study, but it said that most women with degrees strongly prefer men who also have degrees. If you add the fact that women outnumber men in colleges 3:2, then that means for every 3 women with degrees, one of them will have to settle for a man without a degree, or be single. For each such woman who chooses to be single, there is going to be a man out there with no degree who als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:18 PM |
| – | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?40% of couples in the same or neighboring income brackets. Does this mean that 60% of couples are two or more income brackets apart? That seems like a large number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.If they are not learning from trial and error, they could just be dumb. IQ is not uniformly distributed among the population. So some failures are to be expected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:46 PM |
| 3 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.Elliot Rodgers was not ugly. He was just an asshole who felt entitled to hot blondes. The funny thing about ER is that there is a blonde who does obsess over him, but only after he died. https://x.com/ElliSupremeLady I agree that he wasn't ugly, he could have gotten women that he wanted. But I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on him, he had a severe inferiority complex due to his ethnicity and his upbringing in white suburban California. He was bullied most of his life, and couldn't re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:29 PM |
| 8 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.There are definitely men who sabotage themselves when dating, usually because they don't know any better and have to learn from trial and error. How else would they learn? From their parents? Aren't you the one who said you wouldn't help your own son with dating advice? Thus he'd have no choice but to learn the hard way right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:21 PM |
| 7 | Men will absolutely do things that do not benefit them.Why did you link newsletters as a source instead of linking the actual source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:19 PM |
| 0 | Are you afraid of being alone in your twilight years?I have no idea what you are on about. Red pill/black pill is not about fuckboys. Nobody cares about fuckboys. Some fuckboys might eventually mature and settle down, and some won't. But the manosphere doesn't target these men. It targets the men who struggle, especially while young. The RP people you're talking about who sells the idea of men building their value and then sleeping around, and eventually settling down with a homely woman are all grifters. It is basically just an MLM scheme disguis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:08 PM |
| 11 | Are you afraid of being alone in your twilight years?He has every right to not live if he so desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:03 AM |
| 2 | Are you afraid of being alone in your twilight years?Men accept this fact from a young age. I think for women it takes time to accept this, since they will get sex from chad during their youth and then once they are ready to settle down and find that there aren't enough chads who want to get married, then only do they start to despair in loneliness. What makes it hard for men is that they don't really console or try to comfort each other. They just suffer in solitude. Women however openly support one another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 03:02 AM |
| 1 | What's even the point for average woman to be in a relationship with average men?What exactly makes it delusional and misogynist? Genuine question, not trolling. If the answer is obvious, it shouldn't be hard to come up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 11:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating is not "easier" for women (see video)That is also why she is single lmao. You couldn't have picked a worse example to demonstrate why dating is hard for women lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 02:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Dating is not "easier" for women (see video)Just by education alone, college educated women outnumber college educated men by 3 to 2. So for every 3 women with degrees, one of them is going to either end up single, or dating a man without a degree. If you are in the bottom 33% of women in terms of attractiveness (assuming that's what men prioritize), good luck finding a man who is as academically accomplished as yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 09:10 AM |
| 0 | Women should stop acting like a personality detectors and being morally superiorHow would lack of bullying be a problem? People who get bullied are objectively worse off in almost every metric than those who don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Women should stop acting like a personality detectors and being morally superiorNot bullied at all. Good upbringing too. Just different brain chemistry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 01:46 AM |
| – | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeMen will say anything but the truth to get laid. If he was settling, why would he willingly disclose that information, when doing so would be counterproductive to his goals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 08:29 PM |
| – | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeFat women usually have bigger boobs and more meat on their asses, which can be arousing to some men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 08:14 PM |
| – | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeI mean what else is there to go by other than looks? It's not like the ugly woman is going to worship a man. Regardless of whether the woman is ugly, she will still want the man to worship her, so he might as well pick the one that is fun in the sack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 08:11 PM |
| 17 | We need to stop saying men "prey" on women for seeking a consensual relationship.What's wrong with age gaps if both are consenting adults who just want sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 07:14 PM |
| 2 | We need to stop saying men "prey" on women for seeking a consensual relationship.I think for an attractive man who just wants sex, cold approaching is more effective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 07:13 PM |
| 5 | We need to stop saying men "prey" on women for seeking a consensual relationship.The same arguments can be made for approaching at a club? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 07:08 PM |
| 13 | We need to stop saying men "prey" on women for seeking a consensual relationship.Why is it more bothersome to approach women at clubs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Women not being able to get and stay in good-quality relationships is embarrassingWhat is the definition of an inflated standard? If only 20% of men have attributes sought after by all women, and each of those men must choose a single woman, then only 20% of women will be in relationships with those men. The men's standards are inflated if they are already in relationships. All the other women will be single. What's confusing about this argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 06:40 PM |
| -1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeI never said anything about porn. I'm just making it clear that despite feminist pleas for equality, women primarily vote for welfare policies worldwide, the primary beneficiaries of which are also women. Make of this information what you will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Women not being able to get and stay in good-quality relationships is embarrassingAre you saying you'd be willing to share a man with other women? Because if not, then it is very much zero sum. Maybe you don't know what zero sum means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Women not being able to get and stay in good-quality relationships is embarrassingIf they were easy to meet you'd have found a man by now. They're not impossible to meet though, I do acknowledge that is an exaggeration. It's just unlikely, especially the porn. But it also depends on how hot you yourself are. If all women want these 7 traits, and only 20% of men meet them all, then you'd have to be in the top 20% of women to have a chance at nabbing such a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 05:46 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeNeither would most women. Yet most men are settling. So something's got to give, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 05:44 PM |
| 2 | for people that were late bloomers in dating, is it normal or just common to have envy/resentment towards people who got to date and have relationships before they did or just people who got to date, have relationships around the typical societal norm of when people have their first relationship?Yup. Can absolutely relate. Still, it's better to eventually be intimate than to never be intimate at all, which is a reality for many men and women out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Dating market is monopolised by women and the infinite choice they've. Men will mold themselves to suit women and most men being jerk narrative is fake.I think he means alpha fucks beta bucks is the endgame for a large swath of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 05:15 PM |
| 0 | Men should embrace “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn”Men can't monkey branch without being unfaithful. It would require them to approach other women while they are already in a relationship. Women continue to get approached while in a relationship, so monkey branching is trivial for them, and doesn't require any infidelity even on their part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 05:02 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeComputer security is clearly not your forte. You can't get a virus just by clicking a browser link, unless your browser is so bad that it runs malicious web code on your browser. You'd have to download and run a malicious executable to actually get infected by a Trojan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:54 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeSelf-respect and tact are not mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:51 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeThis implies that there are enough rich attractive men for every woman. Also, the guy they click with is statistically more likely to be the guy they are most attracted to. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if you can provide some form of experimental data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:51 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeWho dat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:49 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeIf he did settle, why would he willingly disclose that fact? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 03:47 PM |
| -2 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeWomen are net beneficiaries of state welfare, and men are net payers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 03:42 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeShit I clicked it. Didn't load anything though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 03:39 PM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeTime and place doesn't really matter. What matters is who you would have preferred to be with if everyone that you ever approached had said yes. It's great you've built a great bond with your current wife, and see her as special and ideal. But that's not to say that this couldn't have been achieved with a more attractive woman who rejected you had she not rejected you. And it's not like you knew immediately upon meeting your wife that she was the one for you. Anyway, it's great you didn't settle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 11:19 AM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeThis isn't settling. Settling is "I want X, but I can't have X. I can have Y though. I guess I'll settle for Y, even though I would have preferred X". If a man gets rejected by X, and then makes the above conscious judgment, and then approaches and gets accepted by Y, then he has definitionally settled for Y. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 10:47 AM |
| -1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeHow many women did you approach before your wife, and were they more or less attractive than your wife? Do you believe in objective attractiveness? If they were more attractive than your wife, then did you consciously lower your standards at some point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 10:35 AM |
| 1 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeNot thinking about something in X terms doesn't mean that X terms don't apply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 10:33 AM |
| 3 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereWhy not? What makes the medium of information transmission effective in one context and ineffective in another? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:11 AM |
| 3 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeGood for you, but doesn't really undermine anything that I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 03:16 AM |
| 0 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menSure CEOs in general are, but I don't think it's trending that way. A lot of the younger tech CEOs aren't tall at all. But it still doesn't negate any of my arguments about intelligence vs physique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?It doesnn’t piss me off. But it is shallow. Everyone is shallow. I'm just willing to not lie about it. I guess I just don’t get how you can fall in love through physical attraction then stay in love when that body no longer looks like it used to. I get saying you would stick to your commitment and honor the word you've made to her but I don’t get how you can stay in love if the thing that made you fall in love is no longer there. I mean when you first meet someone most of your desire for them is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?No. I see average men married to hot women all the time. Maybe we have a different perspective on what is hot? For example, would you consider the current FBI director, Kash Patel, average? What about his gf, Alexis Wilkins? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?Is it really that common? Never heard of it before. Never heard of anyone in my personal life who's done it. Doesn't make sense to leave someone you love. But for me, falling in love is based heavily on physical attraction, and that seems to piss a lot of women off for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:18 PM |
| 0 | You have the chance to make one thing go internationally viral for the opposite sex. What do you choose?Men dying in battle. Actual blood being shed by these men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 10:21 PM |
| 17 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeWhile these are reasonable arguments, there is also an asymmetry with how likely a man is to view himself as settling vs a woman. It is due to the fact that men have to make the first move. Since the man has to make the first move, he will likely get rejected by various women before finally being accepted by the woman he ends up marrying. He will be well aware of his previous rejections, so the notion of settling to him will be a salient one. On the other hand, the woman will have a selection of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 10:16 PM |
| 65 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeWelcome to the black pill. All are welcome regardless of race or creed. All we ask is that you acknowledge doom and embrace it with all your heart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?Are you suggesting I might leave her for a young woman because she lost her beauty? That isn't something that even crossed my mind, because I would be married to her already and marriage is permanent. I don't think most men, myself included, are thinking about leaving their wives just because she got old. Seems fucked up and irrational. Just because a man wants his wife to be hot doesn't mean it's the only thing that keeps him drawn to her. People become attached over time. Can't just leave some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?Not sure what you're expecting to hear? We would still be married and hopefully have children/grandchildren? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 09:13 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menBecause attraction is still important. A man must consider his wife's attractiveness when marrying her, or he won't be able to orgasm. She doesn't have to be objectively attractive, him finding her attractive is more than enough even if no one else does. But if he doesn't find her attractive, he'd have to use some form of masturbatory aid to orgasm with her, which is not ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 08:41 PM |
| 2 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereThe way you speak leads me to believe you might be a troll larping as a woman. Are you against lectures and teaching in general? Do you think universities should not have lectures? What benefit, if any, do you see in lectures, and why do you think a parent lecturing a child would not in any capacity yield a potentially similar benefit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 08:39 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menThey are still attracted to each though, right? Or at least the husband is attracted to the wife, or else how is he able to sustain an erection long enough to orgasm inside her? I don't imagine most men who marry ugly women are thinking about other women while having sex with their own wives. It seems too depressing to consider as a possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 08:03 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menThat's awesome for you guys. But understand that this is anomalous from the perspective of evolutionary stability. Any behavior which is against reproduction necessarily cannot be part of an ESS (evolutionarily stable strategy). Not that there's anything wrong with non-ESS strategies, only that they are either anomalous or short-lived in the gene pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 07:23 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menDoesn’t matter. Our lizard brain was shaped by hundreds of millions of years of sexual selection. Even then it wasn’t JUST being the tallest or strongest. The alpha male was also intelligent, had excellent social skill, etc I think you're failing to see the big picture here. Height and muscularity don't strongly correlate with status the way they do now in a brain-based economy as they did thousands of years ago in a brawn/warfare based society. Intelligence has replaced height as the main deter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 07:15 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menI guess if the gay men fantasized about other men during sex with their wives, then this could help them sustain an erection. I'm wondering if I could successfully force myself to get an erection with a woman I find extremely ugly. It's not something I've thought about, but I guess it's possible in theory. But reproduction is the end goal of the genes of most living organisms and any gene which doesn't value reproduction will be eliminated from the gene pool within a single generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 07:01 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menMost women prefer being fucked by the high status and dominant CEO than some low income blue collar worker (all other things being equal). The thing is that in reality, all other things are not generally equal. Also, physical preferences are based on evolution that occurred millions of years ago during hunter-gatherer times. Height and muscularity aren't that important in survival in today's day and age. You have a much better chance of your genes surviving if you marry the guy that can build dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 06:54 PM |
| 1 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menBut it will sustain an erection, and that's essential for reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 06:42 PM |
| 5 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menI've met women who don't know this though. They genuinely believe the hot guy who is messaging them is interested in them as a person and won't just pump and dump them. It tends to correlate inversely with how well educated and intelligent the woman is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 06:41 PM |
| 0 | "Women want to be loved not lusted over" yet they keep pitching out for the top % of menIf this is true, then why are so many CEOs ugly? None of the top 10 richest men in the world are particularly handsome. Zuckerberg would likely be an incel if it weren't for his wealth and intelligence. Reducing success to attractiveness seems quite naive. Attractiveness is irrelevant for many things. Like if you wanted to be software engineer (my occupation), attractiveness is pretty much useless, only your brain and education and ability to follow instructions without fucking up is relevant. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?Why not? Lots of average guys are married to hot girls. There's more hot girls than there are hot guys. This is well known by everyone, especially by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 06:14 PM |
| -1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?I am the top 1% in terms of income. But very average in all other ways. But I should also clarify, I think a large number of girls are hot enough to be porn stars. Like probably at least 20-30% of young women could be porn stars. EDIT: Actually it's more like top 10% in income nationwide. It's only 1% for the state I live in. Also, it's funny I got downvoted for stating my preferences, despite them being very fair. It just goes to show that only women are allowed to have preferences in 2025. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 03:21 PM |
| -8 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?I make just over 200k and used to want a stay at home wife back when I sucked at cooking and thought I needed a woman to cook for me. Now I am probably a better cook than over 90% of women, and enjoy cooking enough that I don't know if I'd want a wife to do that for me. MY future kids would probably want me to cook all their meals. With that said, I would do shared bank account and let her buy what she wants. She's my wife, and the mother of my children, so why wouldn't I trust her with my money… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 02:22 PM |
| 4 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereWhat role should parents play in their child's social development? None at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:13 AM |
| 3 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereBut what if there are more cute women than there are cute men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:00 AM |
| 25 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereThere are lots of blue pill and red pill lies often spouted by family, friends, therapists, and society at large: Just be yourself. Eventually, someone will love you for who you are. Nope. Some people are unlovable and will need to put in a tremendous amount of work just to be lovable. Even if they do put in the work, it may still not be enough. There are people who are trying very hard and still miserable. There is someone for everyone. Nope. This assumes there are an exactly equal number of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 10:52 AM |
| 8 | Women should stop acting like a personality detectors and being morally superiorI'm not disagreeing. I'm asking for evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 02:33 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenWhy would I provide evidence about your specific 59% statistic, when that isn’t anything relating to what I said? I don’t need you to assign me homework, do your own research. My original claim was that the vast majority of women prefer men who make more money than themselves, and most certainly wouldn't date a stay at home dad. There might be exceptions sure. Even in those exceptions, I'd bet that the women would still prefer if the husband worked. You said this was "factually wrong", which is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 12:48 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenYou’ll have a much easier time relating to (and dating) women at whatever point you get that we all struggle with a lot of the same things. What is the purpose of this sentence, if not unsolicited advice? Most of what you’ve said in this comment is not true. Just…factually wrong. Stay at home dads are less common than moms but they exist (I personally have known several). Provide evidence. Specifically, prove, using peer-reviewed research, that the percentage of women who prefer a man who makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 12:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenI'm sure individual women have felt pressure. My point was more so that at a societal level, in terms of what is acceptable in politically correct discourse, which follows a feminist narrative, that women now have a choice between career and family and that they should celebrate this choice. I think this is great, and I have no objection to it. Men don't have a choice between career and family. In fact, one is required to have the other. No feminist encourages men to have such a choice, and ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:48 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenWhat I mean is that traditional gender roles are still imposed on men. Feminism hasn't relieved men of their gender roles. It has relieved women of theirs. Most women still expect a man who earns more and is physically strong, while not being expected to live up to female gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:31 PM |
| 1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?I think that's more of a grey area then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:10 PM |
| 1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?Right, my point is that the romantic love you describe is an ideal. It is not reality for the majority of humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:09 PM |
| 3 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?Love as you envision it exists for a very small percentage of highly privileged people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 10:08 PM |
| 1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?I mean a lot of men are OK with being alone. There are women I would not date even if I had the option to, I'm simply not attracted to them. I'd rather be single than be with them. I wouldn't mind sleeping with them casually, but I certainly wouldn't entertain a relationship with them. But this doesn't negate what I said in my previous comment. If you didn't get your dream job, that means you settled for the job you now have. If I get rejected by 5 women before meeting my future wife, it means I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:18 PM |
| 33 | Women should stop acting like a personality detectors and being morally superiorNo matter how much you deny it young women are having sex with a small percentage of men who happens to be recycled by majority of women who whine about bad experiences with men. Not to doubt your beliefs, as I am black pilled myself, but do you have any actual evidence of this claim? I've seen a lot of men throw this claim around, and I myself believe it occasionally, but I haven't yet seen proof of it. Women here need to realise that a guy can't be lonely because he hold misogynist beliefs. A … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 08:52 PM |
| 2 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?No clue what you on about mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 08:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenGender performativity is an obligation only for men, not for women. Feminism has made that very clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 07:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Pick Mes are detrimental to other self respecting womenWhy is it debasing to make a man his lunch and fold his laundry? Is it debasing for a man to buy his wife flowers and open the car door for her? Should men be advising other men not to do these things for their wives? Would a man proudly doing these things be sending a dangerous message to other men? Also, people should keep their standards high. I don't know what this has to do with folding laundry though. If you like folding laundry, you'll find a man who appreciates that, and if you don't lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 07:24 PM |
| 1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?How do you define average? And objectively, is your husband average or above average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 07:07 PM |
| -1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?im pretty sure he didnt settle, his behavior shows it. Are you sure or pretty sure? The only way to know for sure is to ask him if he asked out other women before you. If they rejected him, it means he settled, since he would not be with you had they not rejected him. There is of course the possibility that you are the only woman he asked out, i.e. his first choice. That is what happened with my dad. My mom was the only woman he ever asked out, and she said yes, so technically my dad did not set… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 06:21 PM |
| 0 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?I know, I am just saying that it is expected that you would view him as ideal but he would view you as having settled for you. Of course he won't admit that though. It's just a consequence of the fact that men have to make the first move. Consider this, were you accepted to your dream job/university? If not, you technically "settled" for your current job, since it wasn't your dream job. But to your current job, they didn't "settle" for you, since they selected you among many other strong candida… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:36 PM |
| 5 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?It isn't just the asymmetry in being ok with being single. Since men have to make the first move, most men will approach the woman they are the most attracted to and get rejected, and gradually lower their standards until they are finally accepted by the first woman who will have them. Many men will vividly remember their rejections, so they are well aware that they settled for the person they are now with. If women had to make the first move, then women would likely get rejected by their top ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:27 PM |
| 1 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?I think there is a wired reflex in women to view their partners and relationships as sunshine and rainbows, because it lets them rationalize why they are with the person they are with. Since men have to make the first move, most men just go after the most attractive women and get rejected, and incrementally lower their standards until they meet the first woman that doesn't reject them. So men are well aware that they are settling, since they will have been rejected by lots of more attractive wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:17 PM |
| 3 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?Most people aren't as attractive and privileged as you are to end up with their first choice. Unlike you, the average man struggles with life and dating and takes what he can get. Obviously you'll deny it because you live in a bubble of other privileged folks, but it's still the fact of the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:11 PM |
| 2 | If men take what they can get in dating, then why should women bother with relationships?As the saying goes: Men want one thing from many women, and women want many things from one man. Most men will not be able to get that one thing from many women, so they settle for that one thing from just one woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:07 PM |
| 4 | The biggest critics/haters of women are other womenIntrasexual competition is and has always been a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:05 PM |
| 0 | Is the p-rn debate a red pill or blue pill thing? Does everyone hate p-rn but most people watch it...or...?Well the best way to not be addicted to X is to not do X at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Paying is better than picking up1 nut a month is plenty more than what a lot of married men are getting lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 01:25 PM |
| 0 | Why are these popular figures controversial?Yup. And I am already left-leaning. I just find conversations about God interesting, even if it's by someone like Ben. A lot of intolerant fools at both sides of the political spectrum who immediately assume the worst about everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Why are these popular figures controversial?Haha the phrase gave it away :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Why are these popular figures controversial?Useful idiot is such a fun phrase. Are you Russian by any chance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 12:45 PM |
| 3 | Why are these popular figures controversial?The same thing happened to me. I was watching a debate between Alex O' Connor and Ben Shapiro about religion, and one of my leftist housemates immediately came out of his room and started yelling at me that Ben is a bigot who spreads ring wing propaganda. I mean sure, but why the need to yell and why can't I watch the debate anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenBecause all is fair in love and war and if a man really loved a woman he would anything for her, which would include lying to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenIt's funny because I have a sense of humor and you do not. Sorry! Now please excuse me, while I watch some amazing porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenScary stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenI'd let him know lying to me about it would have severe consequences The consequences of lying and telling you the truth are identical, in both cases you'd leave him. Except that if he lies, he has a chance of not getting caught. Am I missing something here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenIf he sets the standard that lying to your partner is okay if you get what you want out of it, then it's fair game that I can do the same. What would you lie about? Do you watch porn too? You think that's funny? It's a little funny sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 11:01 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing women bring to the table other than reproductionThis doesn't just apply to dating. It applies to careers as well. That's why a lot of people will tell you to put in the bare minimum effort, because if you go above and beyond then people will start to expect that everyday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 10:09 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing women bring to the table other than reproductionIt is romance. Resources only useful to the extent that they aid in romance. There are wealthy men who lack romance, and they end up having to pay for sex with escorts or sugar babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenBased man-slut-shaming xd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenThe vast majority of men worldwide watch porn lol. I think if you state it as a dealbreaker, all you will find is a man who is willing to lie about his porn use to get in your pants. I know a lot of men that paid for sex, and are now married, and their wives have no idea lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenThese aren't low standards. - Over 57% of men watch porn at least once a month. - 43% of men are obese (though the percentage is much lower among younger men) - 19% have some form of mental illness (this percentage is higher among younger men) Realistically, you will likely end up with a man who does watch porn, but either lies about not watching it, or stops watching it after he settles down with you. But it's rare to find a man who just doesn't watch it at all, especially if the man is high li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenI'm guessing you've found a man already who has met all 7 of those criteria? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:31 AM |
| 0 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenLol I actually think the Rachel woman is prettier than Adriana Lima. And I'm a straight dude. Though I'm not particularly attracted to either of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenI would rather be told bluntly that there is no hope than be given false hope (as long as the statement is true). If a man, due to genetics, is unable to be in the top 20% of men, he would be wasting his time trying to date like the top 20% of men. It is better to focus on other things at that point, then to be perpetually miserable wanting something that is outside your reach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Every Man Can be in the Top 20% to WomenBy definition, only 20% of men will be in the top 20%. The other 80% of men will necessarily be in the bottom 80% of men. Even if every man is a supermodel, only 20% of them will be in the top 20%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:02 AM |
| 3 | There's nothing women bring to the table other than reproductionWhat people fail to grasp is that men desire sex more than women do and women desire romance more than men do. So the table is just the place where the man trades romance for sex and the woman trades sex for romance. It's that simple. There are of course exceptions, where both parties equally desire sex or romance, but I suspect they are not the norm. The mistake a lot of men (myself included) make is offering too much romance too early without receiving any sexual gratification, which results i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Is the p-rn debate a red pill or blue pill thing? Does everyone hate p-rn but most people watch it...or...?Some feminists are anti sex-work as they view sex-work as an exploitation of women. Others support porn and sex work as they view it as female empowerment. Both can be blue pilled. Ultimately, the pills refer to mindsets, not individuals. A blue pill mindset is one of denial that a problem exists, and a red pill mindset is one that acknowledges a problem but tries to solve it. Porn can be addictive and destructive, hence many red pillers will avoid it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Is the p-rn debate a red pill or blue pill thing? Does everyone hate p-rn but most people watch it...or...?Classical red pill is against porn as it advocates self-improvement over escapism (which is what porn is). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 08:47 AM |
| 1 | To both men and women: Tell me your requirements for a partnerMust want casual sex (with me). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 05:25 AM |
| 2 | Gender war stalemate favors menThe same can be said for the person that views romance as a part of the sex they wish to partake in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 09:39 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?I don't think anyone is asking women to have pity sex with incels? Not sure why you think I'm suggesting that. I'm just saying that changing people's minds is not as useless as you might think. If a large number of men believe themselves to be undesirable when they are in fact not, and as a result they completely stop approaching women or working on themselves due to hopelessness, a lot of women who do want a husband and family will be also affected negatively by this. So it isn't just the man's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 09:30 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itChild support is only paid when children are involved, and is always paid by the non-custodial parent to the custodial parent, and can never be waived. Alimony is paid by the high earning spouse to the low earning spouse, and can sometimes be waived by a prenup. A lot of the men who evade child support are typically poor uneducated men who will have children with women, and then abandon those women. They don't make enough money where alimony is even warranted (often they are deadbeats, and the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 08:10 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?It depends. One or two incels wallowing in misery isn't a big deal to society, but if enough men (let's say 30%) become indoctrinated, and they achieve political power, then it does affect you. Trying to change their view as a preemptive measure might actually be worth your time (or someone's time if not yours). A lot of incels voted for Trump. Not because they like Trump, but because they are incels and viewed him as being more likely to help them. In reality, Trump did nothing for them. So let… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 08:03 PM |
| 3 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?You're generalizing men and women. A lot of men are stubborn scumbags, as are a lot of women. I've met both men and women who can debate hot topics in good faith, and I've also met men and women who will break down and slander you if you try to debate them on anything. A lot of my own family members are unfortunately of the latter group, but some of my female friends are of the former group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:58 PM |
| 3 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?Ultimately people's opinions are going to be based around their own lived experiences. If most of the women in my family chase after rich white attractive men, while themselves not being particularly rich or attractive or white, I am going to base my worldview around my experiences with them, since I spend so much time with them. Sure, most women might not be like this, but the ones I interact with are, and to me, that's ultimately what matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:55 PM |
| 5 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?The manosphere is wrong about hypergamy and about 80% of other things. In good faith, I wish to ask, why do you think the manosphere is wrong about this? Do you have any proof? Not anecdotal evidence, but research studies/data etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:52 PM |
| -1 | CMV: There's nothing for women in traditionalismI'm not Christian, so I don't know what happens in churches. I don't know why anyone would take marriage advice from a church, when there are people far more qualified to do the job. What I do know is that in many Christian traditions, a woman is supposed to submit to her husband as long as he submits to God. If he strays from God, she is allowed to leave him. It's really that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:45 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itI am an SWE in my early 30s and make just over 200k before taxes. I could easily support a stay at home mom, but a lot of the women that want this from me are basically those women that slept around and now want to use me as a betabux. As a man who hasn't slept around, it is hard to find a woman who wants to be a stay at home mom but also hasn't slept around in her youth. To be fair I would've slept around myself if given the opportunity but my neurodivergence makes it difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:40 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itYup I agree. I assume you're a software engineer? A SWE that works at FAANG can easily support a whole family on his own income. But he is an outlier. Most men wouldn't be able to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 04:19 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itThe reality of the matter is that most divorces don't result in a order to pay alimony. This is because most marriages involve the man and woman both working and earning similar incomes. Alimony is based on the difference in income between the two partners. We were speaking about marriages where the man is the only breadwinner. In such marriages, alimony is pretty much going to be guaranteed. The few that are Ordered are very unlikely to be paid out. This is false. Most men who are ordered to pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 04:18 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itMen don't live up to the "stay at home" lifestyle like women do. It's not as much of a guarenteed win for women like it is for men. Where is the evidence for this, other than a few anecdotes? Are most stay at home dads that incompetent? I'd like to see clear data which supports this. I think many men would jump at the opportunity of being able to cook and clean for a wealthy woman who provides for them. I know I would. There is evidence showing that most women want a husband who makes similar in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 04:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There's nothing for women in traditionalismYes, couples fight. Sometimes a woman has to put up with her husband's shit and sometimes he has to put up with hers. Not everything is always going to be sunshine and rainbows. If either side is unable or unwilling to resolve even the most basic conflict, then such relationships don't last. I don't know where you're getting the idea that women need to put up with everything the husband does, no matter how bad it is. A woman can and should leave her husband if he is abusive. Likewise, he should … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 04:05 PM |
| 2 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itWhat's gross about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itIt's not in the interests of most passport bros to bring the foreign wives back to their home country, since the entire premise behind the passport bro is that in their home country they would just be a below average to average man, but in the foreign country, where the average male income/height is lower, they would command a higher SMV. If this higher relative SMV was what attracted their woman, and they were to bring the woman back to their own country, this advantage would disappear and the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itI agree with this. The point of contention is which of the two is a greater burden. If the burden placed on the woman is greater, then why are so many women who want to be stay at home moms, but literally no women who want to marry a stay at home dad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:09 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There's nothing for women in traditionalismNo it doesn't? In Christian tradition, the women submits to the husband as long as the husband submits to God. If the husband stops submitting to God, then the wife is entitled to leave the husband. Islam and Judaism have similar expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:07 PM |
| 0 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.Why do you BP people always jump to the most extreme examples? It’s like a built in part of your psyche The extreme example illustrates the underlying principle. Reality may not be as extreme, so the effect is there, it's just weaker in reality. And that when I was a struggling postgrad, making less than $30k a year, I was great friends with people who had three homes, a barn full of horses, and a personal chef Good for you? Most broke PhDs are not friends with rich farmers. Most broke PhDs are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:06 PM |
| 2 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itI wouldn't call a job a burden when he'd have to work that job whether she existed or not. A lot of men are NEETs now who see no purpose in working a job. They have no family to support and women do not need them. They will work the bare minimum necessary to support their lifestyle, which consists of playing video games and watching porn, or they will gain 500 lbs of weight so they can go on disability. Additionally, a woman is taking a massive risk by not working and relying on a man for her li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:00 PM |
| 1 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itThe money that the man makes is being distributed equally to both. If there is a divorce, the man will be required to pay alimony equal to about 25-30% of the difference in income between the husband and wife for 1/3 the duration of the marriage. Anyway, I think a lot of this talk is moot these days because I do think cooking and cleaning will both be automated very soon by robots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill advice surrounding the Male Loneliness Epidemic is confusing and badThere are in fact a lot of support networks for men but it requires a common interest. Usually when men bond, it is over some shared interest. When you think about it, college fraternities, military units, learned societies, political organizations and trade unions were all ways for men to bond together in person. Unfortunately, the Internet has replaced many of these things, and also women have entered many of these spaces. It's just become too easy to stay at home and play video games/watch po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 10:11 AM |
| 5 | CMV: There's nothing for women in traditionalismDoesn't trad just mean wife cooks, cleans, stays home etc. and man goes out to work and pays the bills? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 10:03 AM |
| 1 | A lot of criticism against TRP isn't because of self-improvement advice, it's because many RPers (mostly men but there's also a lot of women) have dogshit morals.I am black pilled, not red pilled, so there are parts of both the blue and red pill that I disagree with. None of these are groundbreaking revelations that us BluePill normies don't know. RPers give out basic advice and pretend they're spitting wisdom. It's actually not as basic as you think. Throughout most of history, before women entered the workforce, men were not raised or conditioned to groom their appearance. A man's ability to attract women was heavily based around his status and ability… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 09:52 AM |
| 6 | CMV: There's nothing for women in traditionalismWhy do you assume that only women with low-esteem seek provider men? What is your definition of low self-esteem? But I do agree that trad partnerships have a potentially skewed power dynamic when it comes to money, which often puts the wife at a disadvantage. I just don't see what connection this has to self-esteem. I also don't know if finding a husband is as easy as you think it is. You say a woman simply has to not be dumb. What percentage of women are dumb? Also, do you mean finding "any hus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 09:30 AM |
| 0 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itI don't really see how it being a pro for passport bros answers my question. Why is the burden of cooking and cleaning greater than the burden of paying the bills? Or are you not suggesting that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 08:09 AM |
| 0 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itThis make seem facetious, but I want to press this point a little further. What makes a given problem "objectively worse" than another, given that human experiences are subjective? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:04 AM |
| 21 | Men need to stop drinking the kool aidI wasn't conditioned by any kind of movie that I should want romance or love. I was conditioned by my own parents, because that is what they had with each other and that is what I saw growing up. I only now came to realize that what my parents had is truly rare, and that most men of my generation (including myself) will never experience what my parents experienced. It is a tough pill to swallow, but there is no other option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 07:01 AM |
| -2 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itLots of women are traditional and want a traditional husband. I have no idea where you're getting this impression that no woman wants a traditional marriage/relationship. I know plenty of women who want to be stay at home moms who just want to be able to cook, clean, and raise children. It's difficult for women to do this though, because most most countries no longer have economies where it is viable to support a family on a single income. Only the highest earning men will be able to do this com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 06:59 AM |
| 16 | Men need to go their own way until women fix themselves.Why do men NOT need to fix themselves? I don't think anyone is suggesting that men don't need to fix themselves. I think society generally already expects this of most men. If a man is struggling with dating, he needs to fix himself to be dateable. If a woman is struggling is dating, she's just not meeting men who "deserve" her. You see this everyone online and often in real life as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 06:38 AM |
| 3 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itIs it misogynistic for a man to expect a woman to cook and clean? Is it misandrist for a woman to expect a man to financially provide for her? I find it interesting that you mentioned the burden that trad women carry of having to cook, clean and rear children, but did not mention the burden that trad men carry of having to support the family financially. Are you suggesting that the burden placed on the trad woman is much greater than that placed on the trad man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 06:36 AM |
| 3 | The passport bros are saving these women you’re just too privileged to see itWhy do you only care about the benefits for the woman and not the benefits for the man? Do you hate men? If you had a son, would you hate him too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 06:32 AM |
| 8 | As a single man, dating apps are your best bet to find a partner in 2025What is your height, body fat percentage, and ethnicity? I ask because you may think you are not chad, when in reality you may be chad or chadlite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.Well action is required from the men that are causing problems, not from men that aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.The sad part is that this used to be normalized in classical societies like ancient Greece and ancient Rome. It was not uncommon for men to have deeply emotional bonds with each other, in fact men were closer to each other than they were even to their own wives. I think Christianity's shame of homosexuality really did a number on many things that were probably good for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:48 AM |
| 0 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.Nope. Do you know any homeless people that are friends with billionaires? Do you expect this will ever happen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:44 AM |
| 10 | Options for an average looking and autistic/introverted man who wants casual sexThe blue pill hates to admit that men like you exist. The red pill admits you exist, but insists that your misery will soon be over once you reach a certain point of attractiveness. The black pill acknowledges the very real possibility that even if you try your best, your efforts might not pay off in the way you want them to, and welcomes you with open arms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:42 AM |
| 2 | Gender war stalemate favors menIt is, but sex from the one who wants romance is also performative bullshit just to get romance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Any violant agenda or idealogy men subscribe to is entirely their faults and therefore responsibilityMost men do regulate successfully. Most sexually frustrated men do not go on to become violent or school shooters. But the ability to emotionally regulate isn't uniformly distributed among men (or among women for that matter). Some men will fail at keeping their urges in check, and they will resort to anger and violence. It is an unfortunate consequence of the nature of humans and of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.It's not really possible for women to help men. It's like saying a rich person can help a poor person. The only thing rich people can do for the poor is give them money. Other than that, the poor need to help themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Gender war stalemate favors menMost women on this sub seem perfectly content without kids or men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 10:17 PM |
| 1 | It is not a parent’s job to teach their kids how to get laid.Interesting. Does this also apply to men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:27 PM |
| 4 | Gender war stalemate favors menMen desire sex from women. Women desire romance from men. Everything else, both sexes can comfortably get elsewhere. But I think nowadays romance is slowly dying, so women don't really need anything from men. Men still need sex from women. So the war favors women. By a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:26 PM |
| 3 | It is not a parent’s job to teach their kids how to get laid.That's fair. What about specifically with regards to sex (and not just dating and dating logistics in general)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:24 PM |
| 3 | It is not a parent’s job to teach their kids how to get laid.What advice would women need other than to just get approached by men and lay there in bed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:22 PM |
| 9 | It is not a parent’s job to teach their kids how to get laid.OP just hates men lol and she hates sex. She isn't interested in helping her son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:21 PM |
| 12 | Women are not obligated to “fix” male loneliness by dating/sleeping with lonely men.I'd prefer not to rely on women to fix male loneliness. This is a male problem, and if it is going to be solved, it will be by men. Women have no role to play in this, they have their own problems to worry about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 09:04 PM |
| 4 | It is not a parent’s job to teach their kids how to get laid.You made trash arguments in your main thread against me, and you make trash arguments in this post as well. I get that you're against casual sex. You can just say "I don't like casual sex, so if my son asked me how to get casual sex from women, I would just tell him that's it wrong to want it and that he should focus on other things instead because I am morally opposed to it." If you had given the above reply to my question, then it would have been logically and morally consistent with everythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 08:49 PM |
| 1 | The World is not AltruisticHe said take it with a grain of salt. As all advice should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?I'm a black pilled man, you don't need to preach to the choir. I am well aware that only a small percentage of men can get casual sex on a regular basis from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?It does if the man is hot enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 10:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?What does a woman being ugly have to do with a man's ability to get casual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?This is false. Men complaining about loneliness are actually desiring validation from other men and acceptance from society in general. They desire sex too, but this can be obtained from escorts. A lot of men don't really give a shit whether regular women want them or not as long as they are getting a steady supply of sex from elsewhere, and society views them as human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 08:11 AM |
| 1 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.So they are average looking but they're personalities are above average? That makes sense. Do you think the majority of men will be able to "develop" an "extroverted outgoing personality" or do you think that personality is wired into us? Also, if an average man wanted only casual sex, but was naturally introverted, is it better for him to put all his effort into changing his personality so that he becomes extroverted and outgoing, or is it better for him to just pay for sex and retain his intro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 06:57 AM |
| 3 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?Yup, a lot of men are doing exactly that. Prostitution and AI sex robots (which are being developed) are other options too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?I think a lot of what has changed is that it is more convenient now than ever before for men to simply give up and not try. Porn and video games require no effort, and don't involve you getting rejected. So why put in the effort and getting constantly rejected when you can just hire an effort or get off to porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 05:52 AM |
| 3 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?For casual sex or for LTRs? Normies will be able to get LTRs with some romance and effort sure. But only chads can get the casual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 05:49 AM |
| 7 | Why do you guys pretend getting successfull with woman is a easy task?Yup. This is what it is. You should be changing your flair to black pill not blue pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 05:21 AM |
| 1 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Do you think this applies to casual sex as well, or just relationship sex? Meaning do you think the vast majority of men will be able to get casual sex if they put in some effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 05:14 AM |
| 4 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.OK suppose Internet doesn't exist. Your son came to you one day, asking for advice on how to get casual sex. Now what? You would tell him to fuck off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 07:21 PM |
| 1 | What options do high income women have?Interesting that you have "no idea". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 07:20 PM |
| 4 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.If your son asked you what he should do to get casual sex from women, what advice would you give him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 07:10 PM |
| 7 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Who is not being honest? Men love sex, and that includes casual sex. I don't see what the big deal is. Obviously if you want something and can't get it, but see others around you getting it, you'll be upset. That's a natural feeling. Not sure what's strange or foreign about this concept? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:54 PM |
| 3 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Do you have any data from more recent years? This study is from 2000-2018. I do think a large number of Gen Z men are incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:52 PM |
| 1 | What options do high income women have?Is it usually the man or woman who makes it an issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:50 PM |
| 3 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Proof? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:44 PM |
| 10 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Does personality really matter for a one night stand? Chad is having one night stands, why does anyone care about his personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:43 PM |
| 3 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Do you think there are no men who are doomed no matter what they do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:39 PM |
| 4 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Most people dont want to be around a perpetual victim. Most women don't. Men don't mind as long as she's hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:38 PM |
| 3 | “Women dont care about a man’s personality” is said by superficial men and they gravitate towards superficial women.Refusing to learn social skills is a choice. To a degree, but neither autism or ASD are choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:34 PM |
| 2 | What options do high income women have?It's not really an issue unless you make it an issue, but unfortunately a lot of guys want to make it an issue. Why did you say 'guys' as opposed to 'women'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:06 PM |
| 6 | What options do high income women have?Implying that it is always the men who make it an issue and never the women? Empirical evidence for this claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 05:24 PM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI see, then you must not be as ugly as you think you are, if you were able to get into an LTR with a woman whom you found attractive. A lot of black pilled men who are objectively below average are doomed to either ending up with a woman they aren't attracted to, or just being perpetually single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 10:45 AM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI see, so you like masturbation but not sex, and this is due mainly due to not liking the odor and fluids of a man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 10:43 AM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteRight now I'm the US and much of Europe it means they are joining on to right wing authoritarianism which a primary target of these groups in minorities. This is false. 45% of Western incels are non-white, it makes no sense for a non-white incel to join a white nationalist movement. Enforced monogamy is likely going to link up to other religious ideals, not many secular people want to regulate what someone does in their private life. This is an interesting and reasonable argument, but there are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 10:37 AM |
| 1 | The only criteria to loving a man.Pretending to be someone you're not on the internet for brownie points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 10:18 AM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteHave you ever orgasmed? If so, did you like it? If so, how is it possible you do not therefore like sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:15 PM |
| 2 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI do not see how minorities are relevant at all in this discussion. Anyway, I see three possible solutions to the issue of surplus single men: 1) Enforced monogamy: Any man with multiple partners is punished, unless he can prove there is a female surplus. 2) Warfare: Send the surplus men to active war zones. Pay them very well. 3) Escapism: Sedate the men with virtual pleasures like pornography and video games. We are already doing #3. I guess it works, since there haven't been violent revolutio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:12 PM |
| 3 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI'm not blaming anyone. I'm just explaining the connection between monogamy and political instability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 04:23 PM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteSociety of Celibate Wizards and Sorcery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:53 AM |
| 2 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteDo you not feel any existential angst at your genes not outliving you? Most organisms' genes have evolved to value their propagation through the generations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:50 AM |
| 2 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI find it interesting that you added "not me". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:48 AM |
| 5 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteTrue, but there is danger in this. Historically, large numbers of unhappy single men have paved the way to war and political instability. Single men are the easiest group to indoctrinate into various ideologies like fascism, terrorism, anarchy, religious fanaticism, gang activity and organized crime. There is a reason why enforced monogamy has been so important throughout human history. If you look at both extreme left wing (Antifa) and extreme right wing (Groyper) groups, both are dominated by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:36 AM |
| 2 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteBezos married a big booty Latina lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:31 AM |
| 4 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteBut what if you were permanently constipated due to having bad genetics and being autistic? Would you keep wishing you could take a shit even just once? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:30 AM |
| 3 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteWhat about tech and AI? I know a lot of men who are in AI just to make money and attract bitches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:21 AM |
| 0 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteDo you just want sex with a woman you find attractive or do you also want love as well? I think for an ugly dude, it's hard to get both from the same girl. Call me crazy, but an option might be to marry an ugly girl, but cheat on her with escorts. That way, you get both sex and love, just not from the same woman. I'm pretty sure most ugly men are already doing that lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:14 AM |
| 3 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteAncient Greek philosophers did this by forming their own communities of intellectuals, far removed from society, and engaging with each other and ignoring the rest of society. Most religious movements follow this pattern too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:12 AM |
| 4 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteMate choice copying has been extensively researched, and there is substantial empirical evidence: <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:09 AM |
| 0 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteIt's not a downside for women though, because women are valued for sexual inexperience whereas men are shamed for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:07 AM |
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