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So in reverse order. I'm not a fan of using substance abuse to bring about socialization. It's just too risky for all involved and creates inorganic connections that aren't likely to amount to more. I think you need things like bowling alleys, arcades, music scenes, comedy scenes, and so forth to receive a modern twist, and I'm really not sure exactly how, but whoever figures that out will make a killing. I do think that would be funny. I think it's somewhat likely to occur. It's just again, I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:41 PM
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In all these things you have to: Displace dating as the central thing happening. (Just an activity happening which interests both genders enough to show up). Heavily police the male urge to approach every single woman he sees. Heavily curtail the female urge to only interact with people they already know well. Heavily incentivize making introductions. Dating apps have taken the position matchmakers used to fill. The problem is that matchmakers traditionally knew about the people involved in only…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:30 PM
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They want women to admit they're showing off their bodies for them. When the reality is, even when we woman is showing off her body, it's usually for a specific man, not for all men. But this pisses them off to learn women aren't doing stuff for their attention because they feel like they'd do almost anything for female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:27 PM
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Let's put it this way, I know when I'm dressing for attention from men / now just my man. And it's not never, but if I put a percentage on it, it would be like 5% of the time. Maybe less. Slightly more since getting in a LTR, maybe even 10% at most. The amount of times men think something is for them...seems to be most of the time. Like, I've never dressed for male attention at the gym, maybe the parking lot, but not the gym. I'm there to work comfortably. Sorry that apparently includes drawing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:26 AM
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No. I'm not doing anything sexual I don't want to. Doesn't matter how hot or committed the dude is. My limits are clear to me. And that goes for all the women I know. The only wiggle room here with anyone is how young they are. Young people are easier to pressure, push around, intimidate, or make work for your approval. They're also more ignorant, uncertain, risk taking, and curious. Such that you may have women who did shit younger they will no longer do. This isn't about how hot the guys are, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:17 AM
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It is a rejection, it's not personal. I have a fiance, I reject everyone. When he was my boyfriend of varying degrees of importance and commitment, I rejected everyone. I never even looked at them, it is wholesale impersonal rejection. I'm spoken for. I didn't even look at them or consider them to compare them to my man. That's why he's my man, because I'm not open any longer. I'm not evil. There's no retainer. Retainers are for evil women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:08 AM
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Yes. I'd turn him down pretty much no matter what he is. In terms of changing my mind, we'd have to regularly encounter each other somehow and then he could try again and I'd consider it. But we wouldn't be strangers. Outside of that, maybe if he was prince charming and somehow perfectly suave and somehow gave me a sense of safety and so forth maybe he'd get my number, but I don't want to give yall hope because even then thats super unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:06 AM
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100%. I agree. I just wanted it to be obvious that like. Most of us don't want to do the non biological kids thing when we're young. That's usually a later in life move unless we cannot have bio kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:04 AM
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I know. It can happen to any of us. Just remember, equality is you both having a penis and both having a vagina. Otherwise, how can you fuck each other equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:48 PM
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I just wanna know where you're getting the groceries for a good meal for $10. Fuck equality, where is your grocery store!! I wanna shop there too. Because in Biden's America, you can't make a nice meal for less than about $40 a shot without alcohol. As for the rest, I say this with love, but this is the ramblings of a confused mind. Equality for me is us both giving 100% of what we have to give to each other that we know the other appreciates and needs every single day. Sometimes that means more…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:41 PM
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He's telling you to fuck your partner with your penis in his pussy. Does he not have a pussy and you don't have a penis!? Irrefutable proof women don't understand equality /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:39 PM
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I'm not sure how real a situation this is, but: What's her past like, how much has she shared with you. How open is she about that stuff. What are her values like and how much can you detect she's trying to live by them. 3. Have they articulated they are attracted to you? 4. Have they explained what it's going to take for them to get sex? Is she affectionate with your or physical? Like, without knowing this stuff it's pretty difficult to say. My answer is ultimately, what she does or doesn't do …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:20 AM
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100% this. I'm not interested in being someone's babysitter they fuck. That's not fun or rewarding at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:06 AM
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I'd never be shitty to you. I don't massively respect anyone for raising their kids. They're your kids, that's what you're meant to do. I'd just be honest, I'm not interested in raising someone else's kids outside of adoption maybe when i am older. I'm not interested in having a partner who is appropriately more committed to someone else than me. I'm not interested in the baggage of a baby mama. It's all just very unsexy, unfun, and likely to be drama and a headache. I'd rather be alone than dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:04 AM
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Honestly, if you think sucking dick for money is a privilege, you should do it once. I don't think it's going to take more than that for you to heavily revise these statements. But if you're pigheaded maybe go for it a second time. Although with our luck, you'll be into that shit. Is that why you think this? You're into sucking dick for money and are mad no one has offered to pay you yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:59 AM
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I mean, yes and yes. The real question beyond this is who can actually get away with their preferences and still find a relationship most of the time...and if you ask that question, often, but not always (individual stuff matters clearly) the answers change to: Yes and ehhh maybe...prolly no...ehhh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:31 PM
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I'm not gonna fool with you dude, I just don't think this happens all that much. Players suck for lots of reasons, but they generally have a lot of the right virtues. And it's reasonable on some level for women to assume they're going to settle down on the bad shit, because most do. These dudes who would make great partners are usually lacking in the excitement, aren't hot, aren't fun, don't have a compatible lifestyle, don't have chemistry. Like just being loyal and stable...I always say if tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:23 PM
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Not unless I'm developing a crush back from our chatter. Which has been relatively rare in my experience of people who showed signs of interest or had crushes. But otherwise his interest is meaningless beyond maybe light flattery to my ego. The plain fact is that hot or not, most dudes just don't click with me (or I think a lot of women) interpersonally to the point we want to date them. It takes a lot. No, an interested hot dude I'm not interested in is just pretty window dressing. It's still n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:41 AM
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Honestly, not shocked. We met at a mma gym which for those who don't know usually means as a woman you end up pretty quickly looking like a cave woman with drowned rat hair. To say nothing of the whole dehydrated blotchy I just fought for my life look. And the gis don't do a whole lot for your figure. Frankly, I'd kind of find it positive too because it'd mean he liked me for more than my looks and saw who I really am. Which as a girl who is generally considered quite beautiful would be refreshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:34 AM
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I mean I'm not demisexual is the first answer. I'm not blind. I know a guy is hot or not with one glance. But, a guy being hot has never been a reason to date him or give him a chance in my book. People aren't paintings and I don't have bare walls in need of decor. They're people. I need a reason I'd want to give them the time of day or consider dating them. For me, the first date is more of a formal beginning to chemistry that should already have developed through a flirty friendship and knowin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:30 AM
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God, I mean, I can't say how long it would take me to get over the grief. Probably never on some level. I'd really want kids, that's my one thing. Like, I'd never feel I'd find a better love or man. I'd miss sex, but I could probably live without if I made some toy investments maybe. But I really really really want to be a mother and I don't think kids should be without a dad. I think if possible, I'd seek another man. I dunno if I'd manage it. Maybe I'd try to get with his cousin who isn't at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:53 AM
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She didn't give them more. She wants to be with you committed and watch you die and have cats or babies together. They didn't get that. If you purely focus on sex, you're telling it all. You don't value commitment and love from women. Just sex. Which is fine, but, I would say foolish and bound to lead to ruin. And you got something they didn't. You didn't sacrifice anything. Fewer opportunities is not a sacrifice. At that rate I sacrificed being an Olympic athlete. And how did it make you a bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:44 AM
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No, I'd feel betrayed. And I'd feel sad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:40 AM
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Whoa there, sir. I never told any man they were the best ever in every category. And any man who seeks to be that is kind of a fool because they'll never obtain that with any woman even a virgin who never dated anyone else. You can be the best for me without being the best in every possible situation and category including, yes, sex. Now, luckily for me, he is the only dude I've ever had sex with, but even if he wasn't, he'd be the best guy for me. He's the one I want and chose. And if that wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:35 PM
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I don't believe it is because men bad. It's because of a variety of factors including testosterone, disposability, safety in expressing aggression through physical acts, trait disagreeability, and being object oriented. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure we would, non-violent ones. Our aggressions would be closer to a game of diplomacy or game of thrones minus the overt killing. I'm sure some physical aggression may occur, but it would be very limtied and nothing to write home about. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:21 PM
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I'm sure you can. I have empathy for the sex worker, they're actually going through something. Hombre is just tired of his hand. Which is fine, it just doesn't provoke empathy in me. You are correct about that. His lack of love does, but that's not a part of prostitution, so, ya know. People are both that black and white and not. And I throw those things at your head because they are male coded and thus your familiarity with them is likely higher. They're also areas I'm familiar with, so it's ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:16 PM
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Sure. They did. He wasn't whatever enough to do it. And he's not now unless he's planning to go robbing cradles or jet setting to third world countries. And my bet is, if he's upset about that, neither of those things are options. He's mad at the universe, not at her. Which is fine. We've all been mad at the universe before. The only question is does he let that impotent rage ruin a good thing. Apparently, the right answer is yes??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:56 AM
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Geezus. Let's play out your thought experiment. Women demand their freedoms and choose to create and enforce their own society free of the protective arms of patriarchy. Who would invade this matriarchal paradise? I would assume bad men, yes? To rape and pillage presumably. That's sad. Who would save us, right? I'm sure your answer is good men, but only so long as we forgo certain freedoms and provide them with access to our bodies, right? So what you're really saying is that we can choose betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:54 AM
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I mean, I cannot imagine this ever being true or that if it was how he would find out. Would I be offended? Wrong word really. I think hurt and upset is better. But ultimately glad. He's a fool. And I'm glad fools leave me be so I can find a wise man. Wish him all the best ultimately. If it was for me, it would be with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:22 AM
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I'm not really a porn consumer. But, if I had to be, I'd go lesbian for the most part. This is simply because MM has no sensuality really. It just looks like fucking and not pleasant fucking at that. It also is, generically, icky to me. MF is arguably the best when it's ideal and there's real sensuality, chemistry, foreplay, and female pleasure is genuine and none of it seems performative...but that's rare to find. Mostly, it looks like rape or fake shit for male audiences to enjoy. If a man fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:19 AM
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It centers female pleasure without including overt physical stimulation of the male. Many men can say what they like, but they don't want to spend that much time watching a woman enjoy herself without it including his penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:14 AM
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Yes. Absolutely. Frankly, they'll generally appreciate you more because they've been throw the shit show and meat grinder and mistreatment which characterizes casual sex. I'm going to go out on a limb and tell you that this isn't really about them appreciating you. The issue is in you feeling like you didn't get to be ground up and spat out. It's in you feeling like you don't measure up. It's in you feeling like they got something you didn't. And you have to stop this self sabatoging before you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:11 AM
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This is the correct answer, doesn't make it easy. If you don't know how, ask. Faking it until you make it and lying are very different good sir. You cannot lie. You can adopt a persona until it becomes who you are. I'm sorry this concept and the key differences are lost on you. I can recommend an anime which explores this concept more deeply if you like. I despise all vices and flaws. That's called wisdom. Hate the sin and all that. Virginity doesn't make you use sex workers, trust me. I was a V…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:07 AM
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Oh yeah, if you're hiding your sexual past, and I find out, we're likely done. We all deserve to know that stuff prior to sex and commitment. If you lie, I have no use for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:01 AM
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I mean, I get their angle, Depp was clearly abusive in return at certain points...but there's not really doubt she started it and generally did way more intense and worse shit. But like, innocent would be she did zero rather than being 95% of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:00 AM
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This, this is the answer. Why are you fighting over assets and spending you plan to share? And if she's on disability due to a rough pregnancy, why aren't you covering whatever expenses disability doesn't out of love for the woman having your child? Do you want her to work and endanger both their lives? Should she charge you for her womb? Like what the fuck. Do not get married, you don't love this person. You aren't ready for the commitments you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:47 AM
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Handsome and rich. Stay married a couple years make sure he buys me my dream cars, cats, and home, that way when he cheats I'll take all that plus half the assets. Then I'll marry my fiance who is Handsome, faithful, and earns a upper middle wage. Please, ask me a tough one. This was eaaasssy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:42 AM
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At least now we're having the real conversation, rather than all this fake shit men pretend about helping other men and caring about other men. Take note boys, red pill men don't care about what's good and happy for you, they care about getting vengeance against the women they feel wronged them by...dating someone else? I mean, good luck with that, I guess. If you want a real path to happiness tho, fellas, the blue pill and purple pill are here for you. We actually care about you finding a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:50 PM
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I dunno how you watch that whole trial and don't come out of it thinkin Heard is a monster from the deepest pits of hell. Not unless you like, slept through the whole thing and then woke up and tried to guess the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:10 PM
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There's different rules sets. This isn't complicated. Look, I'll put it in fuckin nerd terms. Hot guys are Space Marines, they come with their own codex of how they interact with the overall rule set. Average guys are uhhh Chaos Demons which come with their own codex of how they interact with the overall rule set. Ugly guys are Tyranids which comes with their own codex of how they interact with the overall rule set. But more simply if you're a different type of nerd, it's a flow chart, not a rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:30 PM
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Say day is night, say wrong is right, but do not say that when women are not attracted to a man, they do not want him to get physical with her. Oh what sorrows and tragedies is this! What injustice, the lady of scales is blind again. Oh what fools we mortal women be, to welcome the pursuits of a man we find hot with open arms, while casting away the affections of a man who does not make our heart skip beats. ....you cannot have thought this was a useful observation, can you? These men are not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:58 PM
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I don't really get the tattoos one, just being honest, but people are allowed to like what they like (note, I have no tattoos, but most women I know have around one-two small tattoos somewhere on their bodies post say age 25 and generally got them in college. We're talking butterflies, anchors, flowers). I guess I don't really believe them on that count. I get the virginity one, but again, I just kind of don't believe most men about this. Maybe Christian ones, yeah, but how many of us are watchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:53 PM
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Some of it is just being classy and not saying it out loud (agreeableness). Some of it is being more forgiving of past misadventures so long as the man articulates seeing them as such (agreeableness). Some of it is simply not believing the man about his body count in the first place. Some of it is cultural messaging surrounding boys being boys. I dunno, I can say for myself, I avoided manwhores like the plague and the only way I'd give a dude who went for casual sex a lot a shot was if he seemed…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:45 PM
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This is pretty much the answer entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:34 PM
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Do you think I think lying isn't efficient and effective in the short term, sir? The problem with lying is moral and ethical primarily. It is effective or people would not do it. However, like all moral and ethical failings, it becomes a massive liability in the long-term as is obvious here. Eventually, you're going to lie your way into a relationship with someone you actually like and actually want to trust you and actually want decency and goodness for. And on that day, and yes, that day almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:22 AM
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I am not even close to agreeing. I'm saying that his feeling that rejection is visceral disgust on her part is in his head, it is not real. It is not reality. It is unreal. And if he wants to see outside the voices in his head and the lies they tell him, all he has to do to see this instantly is tell a woman he's a pedophile. He'll see visceral disgust in an instant and be able to place it for the rest of his life. Most women, do not want to fuck the majority of men they meet. Has nothing to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:18 AM
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You still had a chance with many women prior to prostitutes. After them, unless you lie and quite gravely, you have no chance with most women. You doom yourself for basically no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:15 AM
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A: Most women aren't having casual sex with someone else, so their rejection of you for it is not a commentary on you anymore than it was on all the other guys. They're just not casual sex people. Most people don't have casual sex. It's a very small pool, vanishingly even. B: Because he's done something disgusting to most women, demonstrated he does not see sex as special, demonstrated he sees sex as about him and his pleasure. He's degraded himself beyond recognition of being worthy of love wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:12 AM
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Honestly dude, I think you're a bad person and slime and it makes me not want to carry on this discussion because I think you deserve to be beaten within half an inch of your life with a mallet. But, no, I don't. I think most women aren't having sex outside some sort of commitment that has been ongoing long enough for them to feel safe giving sex a whirl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:07 AM
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Yeah, in a sense, I don't have any ill intent in observing they aren't doing the simple, but difficult thing. Just like when someone tells me they have arachnophobia, I'm not like, lmao, just stop being afraid of spiders...but that is exactly what they have to do and it is going to be very difficult. Which sucks, but if you come to me on reddit like: arachnophobia is ruining my life, is there anything I can do....eventually I have to tell you the simple truth: stop being afraid of spiders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:06 AM
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Everyone makes judgements about what is beneficial to others. Generically, we put out people who are on fire, we protect them from being mugged, we protect them from rape, murder, etc. We give them cookies when they're sad. We cannot capital k know, but we can little k know that when we lie about our record with prostitutes, we are not behaving in their best interests. *** And I answered you. Lying about prostitutes is not a white lie, it's about preserving your image, not sparing their feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:04 AM
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I never said that at all. I acknowledged a reality that some women do casual sex, but not many. And if you approach all women like they are like this, you shouldn't be surprised you fail or hurt by this lack of success. I don't care if he's sexually satisfied. If he's thinking like that he can hang, a lack of discipline of yourself is always pathetic and disgusting, especially when you harm others with it. And frankly, many men have tried to use me this way, none succeeded. Seduction is a woman'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:38 PM
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White lies are telling someone that their casserole is good when it isn't so as to not hurt their feelings. It usually occurs when asked or in a context where you would be expected to say something kind. And, frankly, it is done for their feelings, not yours. This is not the case in the appearance situation presented. Nor would it be dastardly to lie to preserve another person's feelings. That's not why men lie about fucking prostitutes, you aren't concerned at all about her feelings in the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:30 PM
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Most of the stuff in life that works is simple, but not easy. It's up to them to conqueror their limited comfort zones or other struggles. If they want more detailed advice how to do that or a process, that's available. But at the end of the day, the answer to being so terrified of spiders you don't leave your house is to stop being terrified of spiders and leave your house. The answer doesn't somehow change because it is difficult for you, just the process by which you reach it. If you told me …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:03 PM
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The fact you think that, that's part of your problems. You've just told me that you're selfish and uncaring about how you hurt others if it means you get a stale cookie. And it also tells me that you're so low in self-esteem that you would accept that situation for yourself. Want better for you, want better for others. I despise people for paying for sex, not for a lack of sex. Big difference, take note. And uh, duh, yes, how you handle the problems of your life is how you are judged. More news …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:00 PM
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There's a difference between being completely fucking blunt and saying things that aren't necessary and being a liar. There's no reason to tell someone you don't like their nose or them trying to be sexy especially if you otherwise enjoy them. It's not lying to leave out that stuff because there's no benefit to them in them knowing. And clearly, it isn't changing your math either. It's an irrelevant detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:58 PM
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They aren't selected by women because they're less attractive, not because women haven't chosen them. Clearly, some women do choose before seeing what other women say, they're the tastemakers, there's a reason they didn't choose you. And yes, if no one wants you, you are not a good partner or you'd be a partner. Something made them not want you as a partner. But again, none of this is the same as sexlessness getting you visceral disgust. Sexlessness is the symptom, not the disease itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:56 PM
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No, most women don't have a visceral disgust towards them, they just don't wanna fuck um. Men feel that as visceral disgust, but it isn't. Tell a girl you're a pedophile so you can learn the difference of what visceral disgust feels like comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:55 PM
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If you think make-up and flattering posing is the same as hiding that you fuck prostitutes, I don't know what to tell you. But her make-up and posture are not going to give you an STD nor a sexual experience from a person that sees woman as fuckdolls. So let's start at that. Body count is a much better example, and I think if a man indicates he cares about that, yes, she should be forthcoming about that. And if she doesn't want to, she should either end things or give him the opportunity to end …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:54 PM
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Some women do want casual sex, many do not, the quality of the man here is irrelevant. Women don't like dating liars, it's true. I'm not sure how this will be solved by escorts for reasons we'll arrive at. No, they don't. Not wanting to fuck someone isn't the same as despising them. Among my reasons to despise another human, them having sex or not isn't on the list. Not even the bottom of the list. No, I do not think you should visit escorts. Per example, if I knew a man visited escorts, I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:23 PM
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Only when I'm doing jiu jitsu...so about three hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:04 PM
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Look, firstly, they'll be my kids. His too, but mine foremost given the whole birthing thing. And we see this play out in elder care. Most women in elder care have children that are involved. Most women who are aging have relationships with their children. They are far less likely to be abandoned by those children compared to the father. So I'm not wrecking my body just for his kids, or even close. Secondly, if my man does those things (which isn't guaranteed), I will make the rest of his life f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:26 PM
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I don't have a go bag, I wouldn't expect my husband to be to have one. However, if you're the sort of person who wants to have a go bag and your partner is agreeable, make it happen. If you're the sort of person who wants to secretly have a go bag, that's allowed, but don't be surprised if it gets found and your partner is pissed or wants to end things. It's really that simple. More generically, I would advise everyone, man or woman, to have the financial security, education, and job skills such…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:22 PM
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A man has propositioned me for marriage. *** I am, like most women, hoping to do both at the same time. But, yes, at times I'm sure that will include sending my children to others to raise and teach them the things I cannot. But, in your scenario, in case you've forgotten, I would not have children of my own. So, my answer was that I'd rather devote my time to raising other people's children who are just as much in need of guidance, discipline, and knowledge so as to have a lifelong vocation rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:14 PM
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Lady dude, you just savaged them so hard. Mad respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:37 AM
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I'm engaged in a happy relationship hoping to have kids soon, and my answer to this despite that is that I would choose the fulfilling career of being a teacher. Which no matter how you wish to frame it would be society serving and would include passing on my ideas and values to others. To say nothing of the systemic change I could cause in that process. But beyond that, husbands and kids aren't sure bets. They're happy wonderful things I'm very excited about, but he could leave tomorrow. Kids w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:35 AM
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No, I would say it's about equal. Like, it's the .001% of both genders. If anything, I'd say there's more .001% women than men, and Hollywood churns through them super quickly because youthful beauty is the standard for women. There's probably fewer men because the top spots are occupied longer because men can be silver foxes. That hasn't been my experience of being a woman or being near women. That's something that maybe pre-teen and teen girls do, but it's not normal past high school by any me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:30 PM
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Burbs near a middling size city. I couldn't say. I don't think most of the women around me are encountering Hollywood celebrity tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:21 PM
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Be extremely hot, be disrespectable, be disrespectful without being unsafe. Have a low reputation without being grimy. Be great at sex and have a reputation as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:20 PM
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You know how men have a town bicycle? Everyone disrespects and despises her, but they all go for a ride from time to time. Women do that too, but we call ours players. You disrespect and despise him in a certain way, but when you're bored, miserable, or lonely and want to feel something....you go to the player for a spin. I would say the only real differences in these dynamics is that town bicycles usually aren't that good looking or pretty, they're just easy....players are usually good-looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:32 PM
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Yes, of course, that's what makes it Hollywood. It's pretty much made of beautiful people with a few really interesting ugly ones to mix things up. That said, that's not a top 1% man in terms of looks, more like .001%. No, I don't think it has skewed how women view men. I don't think I've ever seen a Hollywood good looking guy in my parts. Not even ever. They're that rare. Top 1%, as in he's handsomest 1/100 guys. Yeah, I see them. I'm engaged to one and I probably know about 4 others. I probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:30 PM
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They're both important. There's no stability and comfort without passion and excitement. So I guess if I have to pick I'd say Passion and Excitement since you can have that without having stability and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:27 PM
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The thing that you're missing is that outside of say the tippity top men (the 1%, the Brad Pitts, the absolutely ethereal and drop dead gorgeous) men most of us can agree about.... There's whole swathes of men that are very attractive and worth pursuing, but most of us don't really agree on who that is. If you want anecdotal evidence, I would never in a bazillion years want to date a guy like the one my fiance's sister is dating. You couldn't pay me to even eat pizza with him, and I really like …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:01 AM
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You don't have to stay or be their dad to be an interested adult party who provides unconditional warmth. They're the only defenseless interested party here. The mother is a witch and evil. The wronged man is a capable adult. Part of that is making sacrifices for the defenseless innocents around us. Animals, children, and the mentally handicapped. Sure, but like real trauma. Like catatonic in bed or eating your own fingers or having shell shock. Not "I hurt inside" trauma. Real wild shit. I'm a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:17 AM
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Maybe not. That's not on him then. But also, the contact may not come right away. It may come when the kid is 18, 25, 30, 35, or 50. Just being open to it and trying to communicate warmth is plenty. It doesn't and shouldn't be some incredible burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:01 AM
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I think he's absolutely well within his rights to leave, of course. I do think he should heavily consider cutting all contact with the child. I realize it isn't his child of course, but for worse, the child is likely to feel heavily connected to him and like that is their father. Rejecting the child so callously isn't good behavior (note, I'm not saying he should financially do anything for the child, he shouldn't). But, I think continued communication is in the best interests of the child...and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:37 AM
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Five bucks says this post is about duty sex which is a really nice word for sex the wife doesn't want to be having, but isn't allowed to say no to because she's married....which in other times we just called marital rape. God only knows how a man can enjoy sex when he knows his woman doesn't want it and is just taking it while counting down the seconds until it is over. I checked and it absolutely is. Go figure. The only covert contract a man ever makes with a woman is about sex. Color me shocke…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:25 AM
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I think it's probably as simple as most women prefer nothing to something they don't want while men prefer what they don't want to nothing (generally). So the lower your standards advice is applicable to the dude who would have a less than ideal relationship with a woman he's not super into. But telling a woman that gets disgust and shock because it shows a fundamental misapprehension of the state of play, women, and so forth. Especially since, being realistic, she's probably not going to get no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:46 PM
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Better in a genuine long term way, yes. Short term thrills way? Im sure it works for that similar to eating a food you really crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:24 AM
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I think more often they initially had an issue (call it depression or unhappiness or mental health concern x) and the lack of sex or romantic connection is a symptom, not the disease. Put another way, their lack of sex isn't metastisizing into depression. They have depression and a symptom of that is a lack of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:20 PM
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Generically speaking, you should not be approaching every girl you perceive. This does not mean do not approach women in your community, it means you need to have a deeper reason for approach than, "I'm a man and they're a woman, can I make this anymore obvious". Secondly, trying to get all the girls in the dorm to do something is an obvious poor play. Inviting everyone in the dorm to try food (both boys and girls) would have been the smart play. And then if in that you hit it off with a particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:54 PM
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Not a lot less room, after all, men can provide each other with touch. Men can find touch in familial and other platonic relationships. So it really is no matter how you pitch it, a certain kind of sexual romantic touch obsession. Otherwise a hair-cut and a hug from mom would do the trick. A pat on the back from the bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:52 PM
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It's not a strawman unless you're ready to suggest the only places love, companionship, and relationships can be found are in romantic or sexual relationships. Our entire point is usually telling people with this sort of complaint that love, companionship, and relationships are available outside of this one context.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:50 PM
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Women's advantage is their men dying? Did you really just jot that down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:38 AM
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Sure. Could be painting, fixing cars, carpentry, dancing, really anything that is sort of a cool extra.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:37 AM
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Personality or skills
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:53 PM
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I think you could probably just get a dog and you'd see increased access to women. I can't say if you'll stop being a virgin, but women like animals that are cute is generally a truism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:51 PM
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Assuming by nice you just mean defensively polite, yes, I think everyone should abandon that for all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:49 PM
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Ahh yes, because when I think of all the things I could do, shoveling shit out of a cat box and mopping are right there in my top ten. After a long day of work, there's nothing I want to do more than come home and cook a meal because it's just so relaxing and grand. Come on, dude. You knew when you typed that you were vomiting shit. Women do this stuff because it has to get done. If you provided me a servant, I'd never do anything except cook on the weekends for pleasure. Zero percent. Literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:47 PM
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Inevitably the answer is either: The short unremarkable dude you're describing is unaware of his reality and thus moves with the confidence of other men...and people tend to believe your big fish story if you tell it with confidence. He's actually remarkable in ways you haven't discerned and is very good at presenting those to women in such a way as to overcome the fact he looks like a thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:37 PM
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Keep in mind, I don't do casual of hook up or fwb, but like most women here, the only one I could think of is like a MMF threesome or maybe anal. My logic on the former being that like, I'm a monogamous and jealous person so I wouldn't want to be seen like that by the love of my life or make him see me like that. But if it was just two dudes I was attracted to and friends with then who gives a shit, right? They ain't the endgame, just the pre-game. There's probably an element here as well that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:34 PM
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Credit where it's due, you went even darker than me. #deadbabiestellnotales
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:05 AM
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I knew we'd agree about something one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:48 AM
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I can only assume women are way better at not getting caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:47 AM
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Oh please, women know exactly what it's like to feel required to perform for men. After all, we know that our lack of pleasure or orgasm is likely tied into your ego and that if we don't pretend appropriately, you may become upset or worse. Men tell us all the time we're supposed to enjoy what they do, which means telling us we have to perform for their pleasure. And that if we don't, sex won't be good for you. To say nothing of expectations about how our bodies look or are groomed. To say nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:56 PM
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I find it offensive I should be acknowledging that it is good tyrants stopped putting their boot on my throat so that the grandchildren of those tyrants will acknowledge me as appropriately humble. We should always have had freedoms. The fact we were not extended those because of tyrants in the past is a monstrous evil. The fact that monstrous evil has been dispensed with is not something I should be forced to acknowledge so as to what, appear historically aware? The fact I refuse to bend the kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:44 PM
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I think you're confusing sex-having with another person finding you admirable, respectable, or desirable. I feel those feelings a lot about many men and I'm not fucking them. They're the ones who are choosing to value being fucked as evidence of their worthiness. And, in some cases, it may be a symptom of that, for the record. I do overwhelmingly feel great things about my fiance, and those drew and draw me to him so much I climb him like a jungle gym. However, sex-having isn't required to mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:41 PM
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An unhealthy relationship dynamic in which one party is sacrificing too much for the other's comfort typically in order to fulfill their own toxic childhood dynamics in order to feel safe and comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:37 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:20 PM
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Don't be dense. Men's sexual expectations are largely informed by porn. They may stop watching it, but that's only because they start pushing for women to do the shit they saw in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:07 PM
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And yet so many men's sexual expectations in relationships come from porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:07 PM
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We know, but yet men keep bringing porn into our relationships and then feeling ashamed when women say, "I'm not comfortable with that" or "I will never want to do that" or "ew".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:54 PM
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No, because cats are never mediocre and always fluffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:32 PM
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Great...so why don't you believe they were fine to wait for my comfort which never arrived? Oh, they were inferior to the man I eventually chose that with. That's obvious in hindsight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:27 AM
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I noted your bias as well, I didn't realize we were supposed to announce that. And hey, deny it at your own peril, but in my experience, men are a little deaf about women's communications...and they laugh about it when it suits them to. It's why the best thing I ever did was just hold them accountable, "nope, I told you, you didn't listen. Now live in the world where you didn't listen". You were aggressive and got women to apologize. Shocker that. And women never say sorry or admit fault when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:25 AM
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I would say I wasn't massively attracted to a lot of them, but, that wasn't what held things back by any means. I'm sure they could have found sex elsewhere if they tried. I am intrigued that so many men think it's wildly impossible they'd like a girl enough that sex wouldn't be the chief concern or that they'd be willing to move at a much slower pace. Kinda says it all, doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:16 AM
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I mean it literally is. Something like 10% of it is words, 50% is body language, 30% is facial expressions, and 10% is tone. Why don't men struggle to communicate with each other? Easy, you're not having very delicate or nuanced communications, you communicate less altogether, and you give each other the respect of listening and watching which you less rarely extend to women. You also care significantly less about the outcomes which in turn makes you better at receiving the answers. Women aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:23 AM
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Sure, not saying otherwise. Clearly, we do well enough to please the people we need to. We understand male hierarchy plenty well, especially since we half dictate it. We don't like it so often is the difference. Yeah, the Ole cringe male dominated team issue, a constant problem for women rolls eyes. Gottem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:14 PM
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It's only natural if someone wants to mate with you back. Just being a human animal isn't enough. And society can sustain itself just fine in this paradigm. Population collapse isn't from only a few dudes passing the standards, its from people not having kids. These things are unrelated. Only 40% of men ever procreated in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:12 PM
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Kills me every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:10 PM
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Romantically serious relationships that didn't include sex. They happen shocking, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:09 PM
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I love it when women are called sexual and reproductive opportunities. Cracks me up every time. Or when access to us is more evenly shared. We just can't let women choose sex and reproduction for themselves can we!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:44 PM
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I don't hook up, period. Sex is a result of more than just a serious and exclusive relationship for me. I've had serious boyfriends I didn't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:43 PM
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A man unable to decipher non-verbal communication isn't an anti-social creepy loser who deserves to die alone, he's just not necessarily someone a lot of us want to have a relationship with or start one with. Most of communication is non-verbal, so not being able to understand it usefully is quite a huge downside I wouldn't necessarily be interested in dealing with (apparently a lot of women feel the same). Now of course, the further into a relationship you get, the more opportunity there is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:37 PM
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Look dude, that's fine. I'm just saying it's strange and you seem to wanna pretend it isn't. Which I don't get that part. Have your life the way you want it...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:06 PM
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I'm not freeloading. I originally decided to stay to help raise my much younger siblings so that said siblings would be spared the bad sides of my parents tumultuous marriage. I was preparing to move out when they'd gotten older, and then the pandemic hit so it was like...stay at home because God knows where this world is going. And then by the time it ended, I was out of the house so much moving out seemed kind of pointless especially since it seemed likely I'd soon be doing so from marriage. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:05 PM
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Please dont make me regret this: I'm basically a brown belt of cooking. I can make any recipe I see perfectly, and I'm currently honing my own style essentially. I'm a decent, like almost purple belt baker. I love cooking as a display of love and service. In terms of fitness, you can bounce a quarter off my ass, I'm very well toned, eat a largely healthy diet, and work out 3-5 days a week (add on I'm almost a purple belt at BJJ). Job wise, I have a few good gigs, but I'm currently working on a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:24 AM
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Print it out and frame it cuz this is a rare gem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:12 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:11 AM
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What is yours that most couples are affording 3 bedrooms so that they don't have to genuinely be compatible and share a lifestyle? Literally no couple I know does this. Not the poorest nor the richest. It's that fuckin bizarre. Are you like Jewish and they have separate rooms because of orthodoxy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:09 AM
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I've never minded helping a dude learn social skills platonically or via joke flirting or general female male friendships. Frankly, 95% of this can be learned just by flirting with everyone all the time constantly in a light hearted manner. You shouldn't need to specifically bother women in a genuine trying manner. But I've also never been interested in being anyone's practice in how not to be a creep. That other 5% comes from genuinely being concerned about the best interests of the women you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:07 AM
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It's literally trying to find someone. The fact fewer someones are an opportunity or success doesn't change the end goal. Again, it may even be akin to a game of clue. There's only really one murderer, weapon, and place, but to figure out who dun it, you gotta make a lot of proposed accusations and pay attention, use your reasoning skills, to figure out who it is. You can frame it as swinging and missing if you want, but I think it's both a wrong and purposefully masochistic framing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:21 AM
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USA. I've never seen a dude penetrate the girl's night group, but hey, anything can happen, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:53 PM
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Those were the guys I was looking for. Their hope is all the girls that want commitment and to take a relationship slow, which statistically speaking, there's way more of us than there are of women who move from hook-up to relationships. You gotta remember, this is the internet, it attracts certain types (no offense to my fellow ladies).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:59 PM
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I think the key is not to frame these as failures, dude. Simply attempts at finding a person who wants you back or is interested/curious in you back. I think a lot of men hurt themselves in some ways by mentally framing approaches like they're like competition or sports and it's like they failed to hit the ball. They aren't. This is relationships, emotions, socialization, and attempts to connect. It's probably closer to like...trying to find Wi-Fi? Like, you don't know which Wi-Fi connection is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:57 PM
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Hey, you know your country better than me. I can only speak about my country and experience. And most of the time, if they're in a girl gang here, they don't want dicks trying to poke their way in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:47 PM
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I think anywhere is a strong word, but I would tell most men cold approach is entirely unwelcome in the overwhelming majority of scenarios. This benefitting men or not is irrelevant as that would imply that if they ignore how women feel about cold approaches they stand a chance to get what they want. They do not. There's not a scenario in which they will succeed. So abiding by this is not a loss to them, if anything it's a gain because the more harassed and annoyed women feel by men, the more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:47 PM
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You entirely can. If you see a bunch of women together, only interacting with each other, mostly ignoring the rest of the room unless it's other women, pretty safe bet they aren't open to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:44 PM
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I don't know where you live that this is the case, but literally none of the couples I know have their own bedrooms or rooms. They all have their own desks generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:36 PM
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Usually, yeah, we were. That's why we were together and hadn't just gone alone. If she's alone, it's way more likely she's open to an approach. We weren't alone, we were dancing together. Men complicate the evening and mean safety concerns come into play. It just wasn't what was desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:34 PM
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I'm fine with them not approaching or learning to observe when their approach would be welcome using context clues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:33 PM
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Haha! I know the pain. It makes my eye twitch when it happens to me. Unreasonable anger occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:32 PM
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Note, I'm not a big club goer. But when I did go it was always with girlfriends that liked dancing, liked drinking, liked clubs, and just generally wanted an excuse to get gussied up and go hit the town with their friends. It wasn't deeper than that. They didn't want boys in that environment. We also hung out at each other's places a lot. Like 10 for ever 1 club outing. Sometimes you want something to mix that up and it was never because we wanted the chance to meet a dude. I realize that probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:40 AM
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This is literally the most solid answer I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:36 AM
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Fuck, I hate it when this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:33 AM
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I never did the hook up thing nor fwb. But, I'll be blunt, the difference between dudes I fooled around with or avoided commitment with...the difference between them and boyfriends was that I didn't respect them. I thought they were generally stupid, obnoxious, lazy, and I thought so little of them that the idea of introducing them to my family or claiming them made my skin crawl. They were hot enough (note, I wouldn't say shocking hot, just hot enough) and I was either bored or miserable or ups…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:28 AM
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Not at all. It's just the ability to compromise and accurately place importance. Children need their favorite color everywhere (and frankly they rarely get it). Sure, but it's going to be on the rare side and more often breed resentments if you aren't generally on the same page about lifestyle stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:21 AM
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The whole house is your space together generally. Sure, usually if there's money or interests run the right way you end up with a workshop or the kitchen or some such, but generally it's unusual to have your own space in your home with your partner. It's not even about some sort of prison system or such, it's just not normal to have your own bedroom or be wealthy enough to merit your own room. Maybe your own shelf or desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:19 AM
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The whole house should be how yall like it. Like, why are you partners if you cannot agree on lifestyle stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:31 PM
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I think you can have your own unique spaces or aspects of a home that are you without having a separate bedroom. Or if you do, it should just be a guest room in the house that sometimes for a variety of reasons, one of you utilizes. I personally wouldn't want to date a man who thinks we should have separate bedrooms for when we're fighting or he doesn't feel like being near me. Fighting isn't meant to last that long and the shared bed and coming back together in it is symbolic of the repaired is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:49 PM
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You forgot immaculate conception. Let's break this down: I know if I was raped. So if I wasn't, that's not on the list. 2. Baby switches really don't happen anymore, hospitals have a lot in place to prevent them. So this is off your list. Chimeraism....seriously, this is incredibly rare and no dude is thinking this is likely when he asks for a test. I know if I was swinging or having threesomes. I wasn't. Most people aren't. Let's stop lying and tell the truth. That's what paternity freaks are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:48 AM
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No? I trust him. And frankly, if he managed to cheat on me with his hellish schedule, like, fuck, I'd have to kill him. And I'm not sure I'm quite ready to be a murderer, ya know? That's a big step in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:42 AM
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I already do....so yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:40 AM
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You want to turn back the equal pay laws so that women are forced to make less than men. In other words, you're cool with them working, just not making too much because that's bad for your peen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:57 AM
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If that were the case, OP would not be complaining as he is, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:50 AM
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I'm gonna tell you a secret, come closer...closer...come on get friendly.....EQUALIZING PAY AND RESOURCE ACCESS FOR WOMEN IS NOT ABOUT YOUR DICK OR ANY OTHER MAN'S DICK STRUGGLES. IT IS ABOUT EQUALITY. IF THE ONLY REASON A WOMAN WOULD WANT YOU IS IF YOU CREATE AN UNEQUAL SYSTEM, SHE NEVER WANTED YOU, SHE WANTED MONEYYYYYYYYYY!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:39 AM
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So just going in order: A lot of this is common sense fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me thrice, I have deep childhood trauma I'm trying to avoid that is coming out in other places. If all your exs are the same kind of toxic, it doesn't make it ok, but it does mean you probably need coaching or therapy so you can identify why you keep repeating this pattern. And that's true with like all of life if you kept choosing dogs that bit you, I'd say you need to pick a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:36 AM
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Not having my ego's apple cart upset by someone pointing out a clear vice on reddit, I realize it's nothing so fancy as having the nod from politicians, but it's plenty for me. And yes, it is an obvious vice. Like many vices, you can still lead a plenty accomplished life while indulging it. As it seems you have. Although, interestingly, when listing your many accomplishments, you made no mention of loves, family, nor children. I suppose those weren't as impressive in your mind, which is sad beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:08 AM
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So, my suspicions would be generally: It's just too much too soon to dump on really any human unless you're lucky enough they share these hobbies or niche hyperfocused interests. It's too much period because they aren't interested so you have a quickly closing window of love and politeness to monologue about your hobby or niche interest and you're over stepping that window. I too have niche interests or hobbies, but I know if someone ain't into it, don't bring it up or only go on about it for ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:51 PM
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So, my suspicions would be generally: It's just too much too soon to dump on really any human unless you're lucky enough they share these hobbies or niche hyperfocused interests. It's too much period because they aren't interested so you have a quickly closing window of love and politeness to monologue about your hobby or niche interest and you're over stepping that window. I too have niche interests or hobbies, but I know if someone ain't into it, don't bring it up or only go on about it for ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:50 PM
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So, my suspicions would be generally: It's just too much too soon to dump on really any human unless you're lucky enough they share these hobbies or niche hyperfocused interests. It's too much period because they aren't interested so you have a quickly closing window of love and politeness to monologue about your hobby or niche interest and you're over stepping that window. I too have niche interests or hobbies, but I know if someone ain't into it, don't bring it up or only go on about it for ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:50 PM
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Yeah, again, the fact the women they're with aren't a fantasy is a pretty sad thing. And I think men should just admit that when it's true so their women can find a man who sees them as a fantasy worth having like she was before they got her. Or they should discipline themselves sexually not to keep feeding this fantasy of other women because guaranteed this constant jerking it to other women isn't healthy for them or their relationship. Like it's allowed, but scummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:35 PM
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I don't think there are, I'm sorry to say. I think gaming in general is an unhealthy pursuit. Being moderate about a vice is still a vice. The fact they found women to share their vices with them doesn't make them healthy. It makes them smart, certainly, but not healthy. And I am happy for them all by the way, but I'm not going to pretend I think they're healthy. And, yes, this is incredibly rare. It's women on reddit. We're not what you'd call a dime a dozen. Most men playing video games are un…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:48 PM
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Then I would say men as a whole are pretty awful, but I don't think that's actually true, so there ya go. And I mean..he could always masturbate to me, would that be the worst possible thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:42 PM
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What's going through their heads is that this is a rare description of a gamer in the first place. They've been through the addicts and the guys who don't have a personality or life outside of gaming and have no intention of even slightly going back in that direction. In other words, I would presume this man you've made up is lying about how much he games and if not that, I know from being a recovering gamer myself that it's just not a hobby I generally want to be the main hobby of my man. If he…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:33 PM
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No, my argument is that if you betray me casually in order to deal with your demons/anxiety, you have betrayed my love, faith, and loyalty....and since you felt compelled to treat me with such scorn, I shall be compelled to meet it head on. If you don't wanna find out, don't fuck around with me. I don't play. Saying you love someone and taking certain vows isn't just for the days you feel secure, it's for the insecure ones too. Violate that and I will make sure the world knows and that I have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:15 PM
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I don't defend it, I simply refuse to be accused of it lightly or sweepingly by the systems I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:12 PM
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I had some hits there for awhile, but problematically the girls they liked were often on the crazy side. Not so much lately, I'm friends with more settled dudes now and the unsettled ones are younger than me to the point it's a bit difficult to go to bat for them. Not impossible, I'm trying to get the one a girl right now, but he's always into crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:11 PM
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Finally a man who gets it. If he's single, ladies, right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:10 AM
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I can't fi8gure out why men think feelings aren't the truth. They're not angels or leprechauns. They're real. They're true. They're an effect brought about by a cause. They don't fall out of the fucking sky. Y'all can get a test, just like we can get a divorce when you violate our feelings. Don't expect to shoot at someone like that and they don't shoot back. You're allowed to live for healthy skepticism, it has consequences, cause and effect. I don't care what happens to other people really, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:09 AM
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No, but she was always in the right, what can I say, I'm friends with smart women who date charming assholes. I have a type of lady friend. It doesn't always take two to tango when a mother in law or lack of commitment is involved or he's acting crazy. Never been friends with girls that cheated, but I wouldn't see it as my place to go telling her shit behavior. Her disloyalty and trash behavior wouldn't make mine acceptable. Two wrongs/= right. Who are the women you know? I've been on the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:57 AM
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sigh, another man doesn't understand the bear thing. It is unrelated to this thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:47 AM
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I find both equally bad in very different ways, honestly. I guess if I have to go ethically, I say close friends, but if I have to go my selfish whims, I say strangers in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:46 AM
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Theoretically sound, realistically, birds of a feather. There's a reason unfuckable men tend to hang out wth unfuckable men. And lots of people who are awesome friends are a nightmare to date (trust me, I've dated some of my friends, and it was like night and day. They couldn't handle the promotion.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:15 PM
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Dude, just break up if you guys cannot agree about this. It's not controlling, it's a fine boundary and it's fine you don't like that boundary or have a different boundary. And yeah, I've never watched any celebrity sex tapes. It feels invasive and wrong. You can call bullshit, but, it's the god's honest. They didn't want me to see them like that, so, you know, I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:14 PM
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No, I'm cool with that provided he's not sitting around imagining our close friends or something fucking gross like that. Otherwise, have at it. Now, would I personally prefer he imagined only me? YES. But, I can live with him making up women in his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:12 PM
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Let's put it this way: Yeah, you've gotta be attractive to some extent, there's nothing that makes that go away, there's no out on that really. But importantly, most of you are not, "FUCK NO I'D RATHER BURN ALIVE IN A PIT OF COCKROACHES AND SPIDERS". Most of you are "eh", "meh", "huh". And flirting absolutely takes "eh, meh, huh" to "yes" more often than any other skill. But yes, if you're a "fuck no, I'd rather burn alive in a pit of cockroaches and spiders", flirting will not help you. Nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:11 PM
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I'm not attracted to the vast majority of my guy friends, I'm always trying to get them a woman tho. Just cuz he ain't my yum, doesn't mean he's a yuck or that other women I know wouldn't think he's a yum. I'm out here trying to get all my friends settled and happy. If you're not on the radar, it isn't because of your book club choices, dude. It's because you ain't making your intentions and goals clear. Even if I'm not into a dude, if I know he's looking for a woman (with the right intentions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:07 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying, honestly. If you feel like the only way you can have peace that day or evening is by having sex, that isn't safe nor settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:03 PM
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I think the fact he's only doing it so his life can be easier makes it dubious personally. Doing it to make her happy, would be fine, assuming that doesn't distress him to do so or impact their future intimacy greatly. But doing it so "he can have peace" suggests the distress is already present, which it should not be. "No" is a full sentence for men as well, yes even married men. She should have backed off when he declined the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:17 PM
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Oh nope, look at that, we found the new low PPD. Someone defending the Deep's assault of Starlight. Good god, have y'all found China yet. It has to be close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:26 PM
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Dude, the way men talk about pregnant and post pregnancy bodies is often a good reason not to do it. Men are fucking vicious to women's bodies that have been pregnant or are pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:20 PM
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Note, I do want to have children, but, I think if you can't think of reasons not to have kids, you aren't really a person who should be having them or is ready to have them. The toil, discomfort, agony, and danger of pregnancy alone is a solid reason to do it. Couple this with the fact the man doesn't have to lift a fuckin finger and often does not dote upon or treat the woman doing this with the absolute aid, support, service, and rapture she merits, yeah, why the fuck would someone want to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:11 PM
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He hasn't been news in years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:50 PM
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Ryan Reynolds or Jordan Peterson for most known Canadian on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:39 PM
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I mean, given, I haven't looked at the argument Peterson provides, so I'm not really defending his position. It seems to me that in order to argue for "dropping out" there needs to be evidence this is a valid option. Clearly, it depends on what we mean by valid option, but I would say a valid option would definitionally be something like, "offers a path through the different phases of life that is ethically sound and likely to lead to good (as defined as peace, joy, and harmony) ends". And when …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:24 PM
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Yeah, it's so terrible to have a companion who loves, supports, helps, and gives good advice and helps you have experience in a romantic relationship to learn what you want and what you don't want and what is difficult in you. I wasted their time so badly they all wanted me back when I broke up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:31 PM
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This, right here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:11 PM
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Yes. I feel gooey just looking at him very often. And then I remember I'm allowed to touch too and it's like, "God, this is fuckin awesome. How did I get so lucky".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:52 AM
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It's obviously a big part, how the couple values it and on what timelines differs amongst individuals and their values. For me, sex is a result of a happy, healthy, intimate, harmonious, affectionate relationship in which work has been done on the daily to turn each other on. And it takes awhile for me to see the relationship that way. I really have to know and respect the person to get to that point. So I've dated dudes for a year plus and never had sex. But, I recognize other people behave dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:40 PM
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It's not just having a conversation, read the room. It's an unwanted conversation where it's clear the lady feels cornered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:53 PM
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I don't really know. I wouldn't think like this. I want a dude to do what I say if I actually really meant it pretty much right away?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:05 PM
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You absolutely can if you're consistently in a community with both genders or situations where alcohol abounds and good at reading the room. It's happening all around you every time you step in a bar past 5pm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:57 PM
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So it's going to look a lot of different ways, but let's use two broad scenarios: You know her somewhat (maybe her name, share something in common like a class, work, club, community, friend group). In this case, say her name very loudly, wave at her as big as you can, and then walk over and be as smiley, warm, and energetic as you can possibly muster. Repeat her name and say, "I'm so glad you're here, I just have to talk to you about (fill in the blank with something shared)". If you can begin …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:42 PM
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Firstly, I'm not saying the man has to be a slut to be "beastly/monster". He might be, he might not be. Typically this refers more to an emotional landscape and propensity for disagreeability, risk-taking, and yes, violence/protectiveness. But, I will agree of course, someone being a slut does have vulnerabilities. So do monsters/beasts. The question is what kind of vulnerabilities does a human want to deal with in another human, what vulnerabilities attract them, and how do they perceive those …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:13 PM
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Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with them thinking that. I can personally say that the number of couples I know from college that literally started (and are now either married or engaged) started with the dude kind of knowing the girl from class or a club "saving" the girl from unwanted situations involving other dudes (especially drunk dudes) is more than I can count on one hand. And it was a direct result of the saving because prior, the dude she's now engaged to wasn't even on her radar to date. After…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:05 PM
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I'm a huge proponent of the warm to lukewarm approach, so caveat, I'm almost never talking about cold approach. So, I would say for lukewarm, I think parties or social gatherings or regular events (I think of like trivia or talent shows or game nights) that are intergender where you see a girl are totally fine. In terms of tips or pointers, do not try to seclude her, catch her alone, make her feel cornered, and make sure she has an easy escape or offer her the opportunity for an easy escape in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:39 PM
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I mean, the answer has to be that it depends, right? Like everyone who ever became my boyfriend or the one who is now my fiancé at some point had to take the leap to express their feelings to me and vice versa or we probably wouldn't have moved onwards to the next stage of serious dating or connection. So clearly on some level, I felt great when that happened and reciprocated it. On the other hand, I've had plenty more dudes that expressed some equivalent of this that I wasn't into like that. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:23 PM
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No more so than men who pine for pure good girls that suddenly and magically turn into voracious sluts only for them. Which is to say, everyone is looking for someone who has mastered a delicate balance of contradicting energies and qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:12 PM
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If you think not being fucked is giving you trauma nearly equal to that of people who have been fucked against their will....Anakin, baby girl, you are lost. And if I were slightly less decent person, I'd say I hoped anyone who thinks like this gets raped as their first sexual experience so they can at least earn that trauma card they want so badly. But rape is so awful, I can't even quite wish it on someone that offensively delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:11 PM
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Men who are disciplined and in control of their masculinity, sexuality, and testosterone are what women are seeking for a variety of reasons we could explore more in depth. Yeah, it's not that it leads to people posting that being a virgin causes the same trauma as being raped. It's not that it says women are the oldest teenager in the house or should be fucked, but never loved. It's that we can't take hearing mean things uwu.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:37 PM
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It feels that way to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:33 PM
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This is a new low for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:25 AM
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We don't agree about that. Frankly, you don't either. Aren't you the guy constantly hung up on your best friend and wanting love from her? Don't tell me that's because you're so super hung up on sex and children with her and the moment she turns 45 it'll all be dust in the wind. My argument rests on that people are literally looking for a companion to share their life with. That's it. They want love, they want intimacy, they want a best friend who lives with them, they want a person who is their…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:01 AM
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First, let's call high school girls, they're not women yet by any stretch of the imagination. Second, I know lots of middle schoolers and high schoolers and most are dating or engaged in little crushes and courtships and flirtations that are entirely appropriate for their age group. Many will crush on jocks of course, but they'll show interest in many other boys, especially the ones who show interest in them to some degree and make a good try of it. Again, it's not really a time for dating in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:55 AM
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Maybe, the problem would then be getting people to agree they want their kids to learn that stuff. I think you're in dangerous territory then. But maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:22 PM
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You couldn't even give them that because what is healthy for one couple wouldn't be for another based on their traits. The closest you can come is giving some don'ts, which we already give.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:08 PM
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No, they want both. They want a beast who is stable. A man who is just stable, but lacks all beastly qualities is a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:07 PM
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That you are both a hot sexy beast, but voluntarily in control of that such as to be a good and stable man muffin? If they don't, they're for the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:06 PM
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Because they aren't very manly, which is to say thrilling, adventurous, sexually dynamic, capable of useful aggression/violence (providing safety), and romantically intriguing. Which are things women want clearly, and for the record, men do too, just in the feminine coded way of the bad girl. It's easy to understand why women want a bad boy who is only good for them, you just have to see the world the way women do, which is as an unsafe, unstable, and difficult place that they're forced to be ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:03 PM
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It absolutely has by women. Men seem to use it to mean, "the unfuckable loser she settled for". But when a woman says a man is husband material, she means he's all the things you need for a long happy life together (including sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:43 PM
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I can tell you from evaluating group work that it is often very lopsided and difficult to make good discernments. You do your best to arrange groups that are balanced, but most children aren't very balanced (that's half of what makes them kids) and classes are even less so. It's a different animal every time. I must also agree, human relationships do make a difference in the lives of many people...but there's not as much common ground to work off of as it seems you wish. And the struggle is simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:41 PM
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Sigh, go watch the Authentic Observer video on bad boys and then the Contrapoints video on Twilight and you'll be prepared to have this conversation. There's no discrepancy except to the degree it's rare for people to have big changes of characters. Men want a woman who is a good girl for everyone else, but a bad girl for them. This dynamic isn't non-existent, it's simply rare, like most dream scenarios. Women want a bad boy for everyone else that is a good man for them. This dynamic isn't non-e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:34 PM
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Again, we aren't managing to teach everyone to read from kindergarten till adulthood and you want to add "how to have a healthy relationship and date" to the mix. One of the most complicated, multi-faceted, and almost impossible to properly explain and predict human processes. It's just fantastic thinking. This just isn't something I genuinely believe could be turned into a curriculum or one that most of us would agree to have our child taught. Fair enough. I don't know why you wouldn't, but wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:32 PM
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Most kids are dating in middle and high school. It's a fucking mess and a great chance to make mistakes, learn early courtship, and so forth. It lacks a lot of the elements of adult life (like jobs, seeing each other, having other pressures), so it's a good low-stakes environment to fuck up in. (Ideally).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:29 PM
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Everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:27 PM
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Hmm. I think I'd first validate that on some level his perception isn't entirely without warrant, but then I'd challenge him to look deeper? Frustrating as it is, people are rarely these one tone characters we perceive them to be, especially when we dislike or envy them. Speaking as a lady, a lot of the so called "bad boys" really do typically treat women very kindly, charmingly, devotedly, and aren't being arses to them in that way. They're complicated people with a good side and a bad side and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:27 PM
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Honestly, my older brother when I was 3? I told my mother I was going to marry him. She laughed and said you can't marry your brother and I told her that she married papa and he's her brother (he isn't). Apparently I explained that I thought my parents were siblings because they fought so much and the only person I fought with that much was my brother...and that only your brother could make you that mad. If you mean a little older than that sort of child's logic. Golly, I don't think anyone ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:01 PM
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If the sole purpose of relationships were sex or children, I would agree with you. But I would strongly argue, those are not the sole purpose nor even the first or primary purpose. Most people are first and foremost seeking a companion to walk through the highs and lows of life with. And there is no clock on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:44 PM
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Sex education hasn't stopped STDs, teen pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, or made good and healthy sex a regular thing.....I'm currently in school to be an educator and I'm going to say it for you: teachers cannot do all the things you want them to. It's not reasonable. It's ridiculous in fact. You may want us to fix all societal ills, but let's be real, we're struggling to teach everyone to read decently. It is difficult to properly form from the ground up another human being. It takes more than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:43 PM
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I understand men are object-oriented and I love that for you fellas...but at some point all metaphors break down or never worked super well in the first place. And comparing people or relationships to cars without including the concept of love....well ya done broke down (pun intended).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:37 PM
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. Your perfectionism is *likely* hurting you, your life, others, and future happiness. If you want an easy example, you don't know why those people are on their phones. Maybe their beloved father is on death's door at the hospital and these are the last few updates and conversations they'll ever get to have. Maybe they just met the future love of their life and they're walking on clouds talking to her and telling everyone they know. Maybe the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:03 AM
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You're not flying a plane, you're looking for a partner and to have a good time with everyone until then. 80% is well above competency. Also, and this is with total love, that kind of perfectionism is likely to make you a nearly impossible person to want to be around...so I would recommend seeking coaching or mental health services for it. It's not something to keep in your life, it will drive you and everyone else around you to misery and madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:34 PM
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I think you should be your partner's main source of sexual fulfillment and anything they seek outside of you should be respectful to you and the over-all relationship you're sustaining together. People forget that a relationship is much more than fucking. I think you go a little too far in your proscriptions of this. I don't personally love porn, but it isn't a hill I'd die on unless it was getting in the way of our thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:43 PM
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It can be done in problematic ways clearly. It can be done in malicious ways. It most often is simply done in stupid ways. But it can be accumulated properly and safely and without all that. My fiance is the best thing that ever happened to me and vice versa. When it's right, it's really fucking right. And, beyond that, the skills it took to get to this point can be used in many other aspects of life, even as simple as getting that extra sauce at maccas for free because you put down a touch of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:33 PM
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Based on my experience of men, it's very much the norm that they are sexually aggressive/pushy and ask for acts which are unsafe, degrading, and unwell. (Again, this is more so when they're young and haven't learned yet that this doesn't generally make for a fulfilling sex life or women being desirous of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:12 PM
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If we dated seriously, I told you the problem so many times and you didn't want to hear me then. You didn't respect my opinion and desires enough to heed me. That's fine. But I'm not going to repeat myself now that I'm leaving, you should have had your listening ears on when we were together. My leaving you is my indication I no longer wish to be connected to positive outcomes for your future. Maybe take a long bubble bath and try to think back on our relationship without your blinders on and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:09 PM
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Interesting because I'm a woman and this has been my experience of men...except they also don't generally listen even if I get angry or cry. I would love if my anger or tears caused change in the men around me. Even better if just my saying so was enough. If I followed this man's advice, I don't think I could have a relationship with most men that's how fucking deaf most of them are. Even the one I'm deeply in love with isn't easy to "communicate with" or get to "change in behavior". It's almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:53 PM
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I think this is pretty simple: If it's a longer term relationship, she's been leaving you, you just didn't notice because of male disagreeability. She just finally pulled the trigger is all. But every single time you ignored her wishes, ignored what she said, did your own things, or weren't romancing her daily, you were eroding the connection and one day it simply snapped. The fact you had a connection good enough to form a LTR in the past doesn't change the present state of affairs. You've show…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:29 PM
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I'm not in disagreement that there's a greater psychic toll to pay to become good at flirting and reading the room. There's also far greater rewards than are to be had in becoming an expert marksman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:02 PM
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Nor did I say it did. It normalized extreme sex acts to the average man and now he's inflicting those undesirable expectations on women. That's not good. Unwell shouldn't be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:41 PM
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That's in part because they (accurately) see that as a male fantasy, not a female fantasy. Most porn is made for and by men. Do we think femdom is somehow good? No. But it's pointless to pretend it's different than other porn really. Yeah and that would be a sign of an unwell psyche which I think is a bad thing that shouldn't be getting fed. Yeah, which is also a bad thing? They want to feel that way. I don't think that's a good thing, but at least they're actively choosing to feel that way in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:39 PM
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I think they're killing themselves because they feel as if they've exhausted their options. That doesn't mean they actually have, I think, much like shooting, it takes a lot of practice to get good and a certain kind of temperament to get there. One that I'd say the men killing themselves are in short supply of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:36 PM
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Teaching men to degrade and objectify themselves isn't somehow better? It's all providing unrealistic and damaging narratives about sex, sexuality, and generally deranging the overall experience for all involved. I'm not, as a woman, somehow less disgusted or threatened by some man who wants me to cuck him or peg him or tie him up and beat him with a feather duster than I am by a man who wants to do that to me. It's all the sign of an unwell sexual psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:12 AM
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Seriously. Beat your meat or mash your bean. Porn isn't synonymous with having a self care night.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:09 AM
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Flirting and reading social cues is very much like this. And you can research many aspects of this and practice the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:07 AM
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People need to stop acting like having a skill means being dead on all the time. My fiance is an expert marksman. Doesn't mean he hits the target perfect every single time exactly where he wants. Sometimes, he even misses entirely when dealing with a new gun he hasn't sighted in or played with enough. No one would say that means he's not good at shooting nor that shooting isn't a real skill or that no one really knows how to shoot a gun. The same is true of reading the room and flirting (which a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:14 PM
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I'm not sure how, but I also drastically do not care in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:22 PM
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Are the men trying to share women in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:53 PM
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I've only fucked one dude. So I can only go by making out....and yes, I would say the better looking dudes were better at making out. Caveat to that, the better looking dudes typically had more practice than the dudes where I was their first kiss or girlfriend. Caveat to the caveat, usually the hotter dudes also didn't mind taking direction, the inexperienced less hot dudes did have problems taking direction. Caveat to that caveat, it's likely the hotter guys were also more experienced in being …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:38 PM
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Anyone who says this is displaying anxious catastrophizing. Yes, you are correct, this will not happen realistically. But, they aren't in a rational mode. They are freaked at the idea of leaving their comfort zone and emotionally a fucking mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:27 PM
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I'm not the only one, most women will tell you that men are pushy, aggressive, inconsiderate, and manipulative to get sex (more so and particularly when they're young and just know they really really want pussy and aren't good at reading discomfort and lack of interest because they're so obsessed).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:24 PM
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Let's set aside the fact most women have had an unwanted and unconsented to sexual experience at some point in their life. Let's also set aside that in many many cases, they begin experiencing unwanted harassment and interest around the age of 9. Ask yourself how many men you think would say....pressure a woman who could potentially, someday be willing...into having sex on his schedule and not waiting for her comfort? I would say an uncomfortably high amount knocking on nearly 100%. How many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:29 AM
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United States, I'd sat small city punctuated by the rural and suburban lifestyle. Conservative. Was raised non-denominational Christian. I wouldn't say I "make men wait for sex", but rather than I had a very high bar for entry I assumed would begin with marriage, but those requirements were met outside of it by one man. Put bluntly, I don't see dating someone as a good reason to fuck them and raise an eyebrow at anyone who says it is. I'm not a prude, I enjoy sex very very much. I just think peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:47 PM
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I'm not interested in my son getting an average girl. No mother would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:23 AM
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I'm engaged to a wonderful man. So yes, I do have one in mind. But even if I didn't, I would presume any man I'm having a baby with has the right stuff. Ya only gotta get the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:22 AM
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Is his father dead because honestly, I'm just gonna send him to his father to learn all the right shit. I'll tell him average isn't good enough. His father can give him the less pg version of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:10 AM
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Yeah, he let's me cook for him and give him massages (sometimes) as pampering, but otherwise it's so difficult to do anything else for him. The cooking is the most regular thing. Or bringing him dinner when he had to work late.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:04 AM
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My man thinks this is stupid period. He doesn't get me um, so I can't imagine he'd like um 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:02 AM
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I dunno, I love pampering my man even though he's a bit difficult to pamper because he doesn't really like being pampered 90% of the time. Maybe this is a contributing factor? A lot of dudes totally refuse to be pampered (which is fine). So maybe that's part of why those girls treat it as childish or feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:39 PM
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It might, I dunno. Like, you're the better person to tell me how girls react to you, right? Are they doing the stuff I said in either category?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:47 PM
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Yes, I would say it's most. Some aren't even aware they're having emotions. I would say with a recent exception I knew something was up, but they wouldn't tell me. With my fiancé, we just cried a lot together and I told him how sorry I was and that I'm no good at things dying either. And I tried to comfort him while knowing it's really not something you can fix. In my past relationships, they'd successfully pushed me away and the problems they had weren't ones I was interested in being a part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:03 AM
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Please go watch the authentic observer video about bad boys. Women don't like toxic men, it's a power fantasy. They want his love for her to make him a good man. In fiction this happens, sometimes in real life too, but less often in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:56 AM
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You just told me you're not confident, are introspective, and self loathing. The fact you can get by and make people feel heard is a good thing, but it's not masculine nor boyish. You basically say you're not girly, but not so masculine. You're in the second category, but girls and men have warmed to you for being a polite and likely decent soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:54 AM
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He's ok. I'm not super into black guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:47 AM
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You're welcome. A lot of this is very available information through google and you tube. Body language stuff isn't like magic, but once you learn to recognize "open" v "closed" body language and "turning towards/leaning in" v "turning away/leaning away", it's usually pretty obvious who is commanding the room. It's part of the fun of candid photography, honestly. It's pretty easy to show pictures when people don't know they're being taken to see who likes who or doesn't. Another interesting one i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:33 PM
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I would assume he should be getting the reaction traditionally good looking "Alpha" dudes get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:28 PM
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I think that would depend on if the women in question are into baby-face as they call it. Some women really dig this look, some don't, some are mid on it. I think a lot of this depends on if he really is those other things and that he still be traditionally attractive and behaving in a traditionally masculine way. I know guys with baby face who kill it, I know ones who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:32 PM
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Body language is really interesting to me and I dated an autistic dude for awhile who was obsessed with it (to an almost scary degree) so like, there's stuff about pupil dilation in there too. But yeah, I mean, we're all typically quite obvious about liking someone or wanting their attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:29 PM
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Let's assume we're just talking about a traditionally good-looking, put together dude, who exhibits overt masculinity/boyishness with confidence. I am not adding in anything about being a bully or cruel or a fuckboi. I would say such a man is typically received with lots of blushing, glances/looking away quick, playing with hair, girls making excuses to be near him. If they're talking as a group, I would say lots of smiling, blushing, laughing/giggling, compliments, perhaps suggestive comments f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:51 PM
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I went to a very liberal university, men weren't seeking modest women, I agree it may have drawn some attention, I'm not pretending otherwise. I also have a pretty face, so I can agree even to that. It still doesn't explain the deluge of attention I suddenly got at the most covered up you could be short of wearing a bag over your head. Men's attraction is more complicated than seeing legs and bums and boobs. And revealing clothing is not the call sign for harassment or worse everyone is pretendi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:43 PM
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Women are trying to be attractive to the men they're attracted to. This isn't a typo, I'm just not going here with you guys because you know what I mean. They ain't trying to attract Nurgle and you know it. They want to be found hot by the guys they find hot. Most guys are not trying to be found hot by even the women they're attracted to amazingly. For all the talk made of women saying, "accept me as I am", they compromise a great deal on that. It is men who think you should just be into them re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:41 PM
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Sir, Ask yourself a few simple questions here. Who was that narrative written for....was it written for men? YES. Why? Because it is a male fantasy that the weird fuckin nerd obsessive gets the girl. When I try to figure out what boys like, I do not watch Barbie movies from the 90s. The only reason you'd ever take fantasies directed at men as a replacement for the fantasies of women is if you were protecting your own ego. Which indeed you were as we will later learn. The next simple question, wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:39 PM
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I'm sorry that your opinion of men is so low you think they needed to be told girls like hot guys. I tend to think slightly more of their intellect and reasoning skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:29 PM
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I would imagine you either passed all her standards, she didn't care about you pulling this shit, was very innocent and new to things, or really really liked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:25 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say nearly none. It was not a super diverse campus and I'm not a muslim looking woman nor cultured woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:24 PM
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Dude, every time I've seen my man cry or be very upset by something, I nurture and fret and snuggle the hell out of him. Same for all the men in my life for exactly this reason. But if you express rage, we're throwing down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:37 AM
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Ew. Lying. Deceit. Dehumanization. Take notes gals and remember this is why you don't fuck dudes you haven't had lots and lots of time to vet (months or even a year). Social network stalking is good too. Torment them a bit too just to make sure. A few good blue ballsings. And if a dude ever tells you he did this shit, make him repent or discard him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:48 AM
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It actually is up to me. God told me so. Also. They're usually asking for advice so...i didn't even need god to qualify me. Them posting on an internet dating board or here did that. Them asking shows they're on the fence. I ain't asking about dudes and sex workers, cuz I'm not on the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:40 AM
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Can I get that signed and dated to show all the other men when they complain about women being upset? Possibly in triplicate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:38 AM
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Maybe before dildos and cats were invented and even then I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:38 AM
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Because he just said it. Why would he think women don't care about physical attractiveness. It's everywhere that we do. Literally, it's in all the media, all the songs, all the lyrics, all the shows, everywhere. You can't have missed it. This childish, "but you didn't say it". And you didn't need to is my retort. Women already knew men valued physical appearances before you ever said it. Because it's that obvious. And all of you knew. You always knew. Stop playing dumb. All the attractive jerks …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:58 AM
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Individual men's preferences? I mean the only time I see this happen is if they're being dick wads with it or complaining they cannot find anyone and seeming really really hurt and upset by that. So you either bicker cuz they're an arse or debate because you're hoping to help them let go of something so meaningless so they can find happiness. Especially since they're usually like: I met this girl, we really hit it off, I really like her and think she's fantastic, but something about body count a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:50 AM
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I half agree. I think women are like men in the fact we find pretty things most attractive on the face of it. I think we're unlike men in the sense we don't have to try to fuck something pretty. And I think we have much harder to meet standards for pretty. I don't know if most men are literally naturally less attractive to us simply because most men aren't trying at all to be attractive to women while most women are trying to be attractive to me. So it's hard to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:47 AM
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Think about this rationally. Men will proudly declare what they find fuckable. And it's usually not terribly unusual or difficult to discern. And it's almost entirely physical. So of course we aren't telling them they need to be physically attractive. It's that bloody obvious in our minds since it's clear that's almost all that is in their minds. So we tell the them thing we assume they wouldn't think of because it doesn't feature in their own declarations: personality. Couple that the entire me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:45 AM
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Some can, some can't. I think if they can recognize them, they won't be here long, they'll be over at healthy gamer gg getting actual help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:38 AM
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The third titty is from Satan. Just that one titty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:37 AM
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Oh, I 1000% think this is the case. Frankly, I think they're projecting their hurt feelings (irrationality) onto women. Which from a therapeutic and kindness end is absolutely par and acceptable. But from the end of the constant harping women are irrational and illogical is tiresome bullshit. If they'd just cry and say their feelings are hurt, this would be so much easier to wanna hug them. But a lot of men can only express rage apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:36 AM
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They are in the sense they aren't attractive. They may not be disgusting of course, but they're not gonna drop any panties. They all want a dude they are attracted to. Which is sensible. I'd think that guy is unlikely to cash that check, but I'd get his motivations are rational. Frankly, we may have to put him in the zoo because he's an endangered species...a man with too high standards, a human panda.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:33 AM
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I would disagree that logic/reason isn't occurring here. I basically agree with your message note, but I'm tired of us pretending women are being irrational crazies in this way that's presented. Most of this kind of arguing is just a failure to apprehend a simple principle and isn't even good argumentation: Women do want these things...from dudes they're attracted to. Just like men want a close sexual relationship...from women they're attracted to. No woman would say a man is inconsistent for sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:04 PM
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I wore a hijab head-covering during a semester of my junion year of college (which happened to fall when things were still warm) as well as very modest and body covering dress....I got more attention from men than when I was dressed like any other semi scantily clad young college lady (lots of tight fitting and revealing apparel as was the fashion of the time). It turns out, men's attention is slightly more complicated than oooga boogga boobies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:54 PM
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Finally something all of us can come together about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:32 PM
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Nope. God awful state that. Can't believe it's real honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:02 PM
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Great, and if a dude expresses how much he hates, despises, and is disgusted by almost any women...that's a personal problem and it's ok to berate his unreasonable desire by suggesting he take the gay pill. Believe it or not, not being attracted to most men is a common experience for women. Only men seem to think this isn't common and suggests personal defect. I hear my fellow ladies saying they don't even recognize most men as attractive and think, "yep, I get it". *** And a lot of it isn't. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:00 PM
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They do all the time, you've been here, you know it. Stop lying. There is no tempering who you're attracted to is our point. Otherwise, maybe hapless men should temper their expectations to include being gay. Stop holding out for women and accept men. Why can't men understand they are the same, she's not attracted to the mid anymore than the troglodyte. There is only the hot guy. There are no other guys. Just like dudes don't exist in your attraction spectrum, neither do the guys you think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:57 PM
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A: You're lying to yourself B: Now add in that she could presumably force you to have sex if she wanted to (this is what women are experiencing).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:54 PM
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I wiggle side to side a bit too like a fishing lure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:53 PM
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It really isn't. It's just defined as being exclusively attracted to members of the opposite sex. It doesn't come with some weird, "all attention from that gender is good attention" built in. Men fucking know this and they just play dumb when the debate starts. A 700 pound landwhale making eyes and trying to get that dick from you would not feel valuable even if you were single and straight. You'd be grossed out like any normal person of either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:09 AM
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Great. Now, write this down and take it back to your brothers: telling struggling women to just lower their standards and date men they aren't attracted to is not a valid solution. We will await your reply, but I'm prepared to tell my sisters to unload they "so just be fucking gay" gun if you guys unload the, "so just fuck fugly" gun. Yes, we absolutely feel that disgusted, disinterested, and like saying to them, "sorry, I'm straight" (clearly it depends on their approach which the primary emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:03 AM
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Having been the good girl and wifey material girl my whole life, this is just so obviously true, it's why I don't take red pillers AF/BB seriously. Lots of nothing spectacular guys were passing me up to chase hot bitches who wouldn't give them the time of day. Lots of cads were lying, cheating, and stealing to try to get that virtue without committing. It turns out, when most people are young, they don't have a freaking clue about almost anything and go for what is absolutely the most shiny and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:54 AM
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Interesting, but no. Firstly, many men care about income and job prospects in LTR...perhaps not the ilk which lurks this sub-reddit, but I can tell you it is a significant factor in who they wanna wife up. You're also greatly over-estimating the female order of operations or perhaps failing to apprehend it entirely. It's not in order of priority, all are deal-breakers. He must be handsome, he must have what we deem good character, he must have a cultural background we find pleasant or workable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:47 AM
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I know, and I see them in relationships so that tells me a lot of men don't seem to know what the word requirement means...either that or they drop it when they realize they're even fatter than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:36 PM
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Nah, I'm engaged to a wonderful man who takes great care of himself and is constantly self-improving. But it was a lot of kissing frogs so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:35 PM
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We all just wanna date gay men apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:21 PM
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I'm engaged sir. I'm reporting on my past experiences as a woman. Unlike apparently yourself and some other men, I wasn't interested in just any old man who manages to barely be proportional and promises not to overtly cause problems. Those aren't positives in my book, and certainly don't qualify someone's penis to be inside me. I'm glad I didn't just pick anyone with vague interest and a pulse. Better to die alone. I repeat, there were not options. Having a pulse doesn't make you an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:20 PM
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I dunno what gay men you know, but without fail even the slobbiest, laziest, and least self-obsessed gay men I know are constantly self-improving, focused on self-improvement, and believe they need to self-improve in order to be worthy of responsibility and romance/love. It's arguably the gays;' most insufferable quality to straight women because we'd kill to get a straight guy to have that much investment in his appearance, smell, body, and professional success. No one believes they deserve lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:03 PM
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It's not just men wanting casual sex. It's literally just largely unappealing men, then of the men that are appealing, a large amount aren't going to be compatible with you for any number of reasons up to and including only wanting casual sex. It's not more complicated than that. We're all looking for a needle in a haystack if we want a LTR. I and basically all people aren't interested in the fact lots of people want to take us out on dates (for any reason), because we plain aren't interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:57 PM
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I wouldn't say a dude was a misogynist and that's why he's struggling unless I've just seen him go on a misogynistic rant and seen it on his reddit profile elsewhere. I think anyone can have a bad day or weak moment and express some less than wholesome thoughts about the opposite gender in a moment of frustration..... But if you've got 6 months of posts that more or less amount to, "all women are evil and I despise how they use their sentience to not fuck me"....I mean it's gonna be difficult to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:13 AM
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1. Some girls flirt with everyone jokingly. I'm this girl, and if guys are assuming I'm flirting with them to avoid awkwardness, they'd be incorrect. I just have tones for flirting and if you're getting the tone every guy gets, that should be the clear sign they ain't special to me which means I'm not interested. 2. If I sense actual genuine interest happening from a dude, I do give clear signs I'm not interested. Call him bro, dude, loudly proclaim our friendship and how important our friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:32 PM
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I'm not interested in someone casually fucking barely legal young ladies. So, gonna have to bounce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:18 AM
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Is this the same girl where you were complaining about being lonely, negotiated for an open relationship, found she couldn't handle it, and it fucked everything up? Because that relationship sounded like torment for all involved and I can only imagine the reason she would try to put up your profile like this isn't being a chronic liar, it's that she never wanted to share you in the first place. So she put up cute pictures of her boyfriend. As for are most girls like this: no. I wouldn't do this …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:02 PM
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Yeah, this is just pure wisdom. I don't ask my man because I don't wanna know the ways it ain't me. That would just hurt and at the end of the day, he chose me. That's what matters to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:50 PM
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I gotcha. I'm not saying you're wrong to want to do things your way. I'm saying, I think it's a valid suggestion and it gives useful information on where the dude's brain is at same as any other date. And, I would say for me and the dude I'm engaged to, he did share his world on the first date. It's not that uncommon. It kind of skips the bullshit in certain ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:38 PM
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It's solid exercise for sure. I said fuck it and didn't weed this year. But last year I had to do it once a week minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:35 PM
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Nice try, but I don't trust you enough to share that!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:09 AM
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I dunno, for me, it would be, I'm doing this hobby. I'm going to be doing it for awhile. It's not a short gig. I'd also like to spend time with you, so I'm inviting you to join and be a part of my world and something important to me and share in that personal and domestic intimacy. Get to know each other this way and so forth. If you didn't wanna, meh. Tells me you aren't wildly interested and don't wanna see a part of my world. Which is fine, but depending on what I'm looking for, it could be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:08 AM
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I legitimately assume we're talking to someone who has no clue what the ancient greeks thought about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:12 AM
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I'm really not. Read the Symposium and tell me that you think Aristophanes' speech doesn't sound a lot like romantic love. And it is the only aspect. The ancient Greeks absolutely had the concept of romantic love. It's not a new one. Nothing is new under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:12 AM
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Having read the Symposium...the Greeks absolutely had a conception for Romantic love. They may not have used those words as such, but the concept absolutely was in there. Romantic love is a concept across most human cultures I've heard about. Just because you ignore it to sell women like cattle doesn't make it go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:32 AM
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Is being woefully wrong a downside in your world, cuz it is in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:25 AM
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I dunno if you've weeded a garden, but it's very zen and relaxing. Lots of time to talk and get to know each other. Probably ends with a meal since they're at hers. I dunno, seems chill to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:22 AM
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No, he can't because he's going to be having to pretend to be daddy to impress her and keep her strung along. He's not going to mature by being near an immature person he's trying like the dickens to keep from figuring out his immaturity and provide for. The fact he's resenting a woman for telling him facts and improvements makes this even more likely because you're telling me he's an ego driven moron.. Getting acceptance when you're in arrested development isn't helpful. You need to leave the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:20 AM
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Except that you're old so your sperm is garbage. Except that you're going to fuck your kids up with a divorce. Except that you're fucking another person's life up. So your best strategy is a short term strategy where the wheels come off and it crashes and burns and you don't have a guarantee on health because your sperm is shit. I'm asking nicely, but are you sure you know what the words optimal, strategic, and best relationship means?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:18 AM
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I'm confused. It's pretty typical kids side with mom on this stuff or end up with mom...so he doesn't get his kids really. Or he'd be lucky to. And he's fucking them up by making this bullshit decision and keeping his bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:15 AM
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I get your logic. My logic is you asked me out, if I don't wanna go where you're asking, it's good to say and suggest an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:14 AM
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They happen super often. And it's not because 40 year olds and 30 year olds are dating. Like that's whatever. It's because 30-40 year olds are dating 20 year olds. Like, dude, she's not gonna stay 20 and you aren't gonna stay ahead of things because we plateau. She's going to figure it out and when she does, your world is going to get rocked. And you'll be hurt and she'll he hurt and you could have avoided this so easily. You knew she couldn't stay young and stupid forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:01 PM
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So, the implication you're missing (or they often overtly say it): It isn't just a younger woman, right. It's a young woman. The reason she's interested and tolerating his bullshit isn't because she's younger than him precisely, it's because she's young (as in innocent, fewer boundaries, less spine, you know, young). But, she's not always going to be young. She'll always be younger, but not always young. She's extremely likely to outgrow him (and fast relatively speaking). And that's not such a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:00 PM
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I mean, was it a romantic dinner? Were there candles, mood lighting, soft music, did he cook something quite special, was there wine, was he flirting and doting all night, teasing, and making eyes, and dressed up a bit more than one usually does in their home, smelling and looking like a snac? Cuz if there was that, I'd say she's the one who can't read the room. But if he just invited her over to a basic ass place with normal lighting, no candles, no moody music, no booze, acted like a platonic …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:52 PM
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Good lord you really make things up. I'm marrying the man. I have nostalgia for all elements of the first date. Literally all of it. From the first hello to the parting in the parking lot. I'm sorry you need to project so hard because I happen to think pizza places are a good first date and recommend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:08 AM
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Yeah, I think the cutthroat side of casual sex is showing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:03 AM
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I don't have to. I was imagining my first date with my fiance (and several other failed relationships). I was zazzed by him to the clouds, a small part of the zazz was that he knew a good pizza spot I didn't and that the ambiance of pizza was so comfortable and intimate for both of us that the date lasted 5 hours because like many holes in the wall, time just sort of stops in them more easily. Every little bit helps the magic on that initial meeting. Oh please, I've planned dates, it's not hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:46 AM
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I'm sure we can also agree most men label the majority of anything they don't care to hear nagging. And also that men nagging isn't somehow easy to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:10 AM
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I dunno if they're hurting themselves. They don't wanna date a dude that proposes that as a first date. May be unreasonable, but apparently that's what they're choosing to hang their hat on. For me, I don't really do coffee because I don't drink it and I don't like the shops generally. I'll do ice cream, but honestly I prefer a good slice of cheap pizza at a cute hole in the wall. I've never minded low effort, but, I think we're all a little more romanced by something slightly more special, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:26 AM
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Same tone worked fine on the man I'm marrying. It's almost like the difference is whether or not the man in question is open to hearing advice from the woman he's dating or not. As you've already displayed, "it's enough to be receiving advice from a woman". Like men are just naturally better and it hurts you to listen. If you were naturally better, you wouldn't be needing our advice right. And just being honest...when you're not a fuck up, you can be annoyed by a tone perceived or real. But if m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:16 AM
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Rather than coming for women about how awful it is to say men are dangerous, why don't you chaps work this out with each other first and then get back to us with your new marketing package. Because the first people in my life who told me how dangerous men were....other men. My father, uncles, brothers, mentors, grandfathers, really any man who cared about me would tell me about how awful men are. How they often wouldn't mind harming a woman if it got them a little piece of the action. And you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:10 PM
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I didn't realize when I advise people to spend less than they make and get out of debt that was my estrogen talking. No, this is ludicrous. The reason you have other people in your life in part is that they can see your blind spots and help you with them. This isn't about any hormonal make-ups. This is just observation, reflection, and the sharing of knowledge. And being super freaking honest, all of the relationships I broke off were because the man could not take my advice or do as I told him …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:02 PM
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So, keep in mind, I've only had sex with one person...and I've had a lot of sex with that one person. So you know, you have those moments (both of us do) where the spirit is willing, but the flesh is fragile. Never once have I thought anything bad about him going soft, it happens, and usually you do what you can to get things going again. So no, I wouldn't say it is that big of a deal. BUUUUT, the first time it happened, I admit I had a moment of uncertainty and insecurity, but he reassured me i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:52 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. Elderly people boink all the time. My grandfather thought my Nana was the most beautiful woman in the room until her death. In my experience, that stuff dwindles if you let it go. And, maybe both of you will want to let it go eventually and become romantic partners who aren't boinking so much anymore because you're both over that phase of life. That wouldn't be some tragedy. It really depends on your goals for your relationship. Mine aren't to always be the hottest youngest wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:30 AM
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Ehhh, I was never pitching he has to have all the qualities, just a significantly high and varied mix. I think some people expect too much, but seeking companionship, good sex, and adult survival partnership isn't too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:26 AM
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I'm gonna give you a thought that will change your world maybe: When I evaluate a man...I never do so in comparison to my own beauty. After all, my being plain or ugly has nothing to do with him. He doesn't suddenly become decent if I'm a mud troll. I've never for a second thought because I had eyeliner on and a man didn't that's the reason he's ugly. Now what we could perhaps compare, is effort towards appearance (whether it's working or not being somewhat irrelevant). And I think it is this to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:02 PM
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I can't tell you what your survival partner needs are. They're individual very often, same for sexual desires. What I can say, is that this is a hard role to cast so to speak because not only must he be a good survival/sexual partner, he also has to be what I said about being your person essentially, someone you want to hang around and laugh with. And both of these things are incredibly difficult to find, personal compatibility is hard to find and someone with actually good survival skills and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:56 PM
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Dude, the ambulance costs are stupid. But also, I'm sorry no one helped you. They should feel rotten for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:49 PM
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Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:05 PM
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What if you're having a convulsive seizure? You're still in the "I don't care if people help me" boat. What if you've been hit by a car or any other unplanned tragic situation you cannot control or help yourself in? You still are totally cool if no one steps in to call for an ambulance or try to help you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:51 PM
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Could you give me an example of what you mean? When I see what I think you're talking about, it's usually women refusing to accept the behaviors of men or relationships with men that would lead them down the path of being treated as women in the past were. I usually see it used to justify mistrust of various systems or behaviors some of which are male dominated, admittedly. It certainly comes up politically, but that usually makes sense contextually (they're upset about abortion or birth control…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:48 PM
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We don't do what is right for parades or appreciation. We do it because it is right. I don't help the lost child in the store find their parents or go to the front and wait with them because I'm expecting them or even their stupid parents to appreciate me or I'm meant to gain something. I do it because it's the right thing to do. I do it because I want to live in a society where lost children are kept safe, comforted, and not stolen . I do it because god forbid if I wasn't looking and my young c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:41 PM
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1000% this. Mostly, call the cops, unless you've got some other training in either self-defense or conflict management.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:15 PM
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Nope. I barely made a female dating profile for longer than five minutes before quitting. Why would I make a male one. I don't recommend anyone seek out relationships via dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:08 PM
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Look, a man who fulfills your survival partner and sexual desires absolutely exists, you just gotta keep looking and don't date boys. But at the end of the day, I'm not in a relationship with my man to split the dishes or money or any of that. I'm with him because I almost couldn't not be. He's so funny, so charming, so attractive, so fun, so playful. The machinations of his mind are fascinating to me even when I'm convinced they're absolutely the most ridiculous and retarded thing I've ever hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:09 PM
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And they do other shit...like love um or hate um, both had massive and multi faceted empires spanning media, products, and life style brands. Tate is an only fans girl...for men who don't know they're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:50 AM
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I think, you're thinking too hard about this: it's just sour grapes. That's all that is happening in the vast majority of cases here. You've got a lot of people that want to eat grapes (for a variety of reasons) not having access to grapes (for a variety of reasons) saying those grapes are sour. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:56 PM
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I would agree unless she has some really solid foundation to be thinkin you're stepping out (same for the paternity test for the record). This one, it doesn't sound like she had a solid foundation. The only difference I could see is if she's got pregnancy psychosis, which it really doesn't sound like she does. But that is a very real thing that happens to some minority of women, especially if they already went into pregnancy with mental illness issues. I'd say he should require diagnostic proof …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:49 PM
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Good God, how don't they. It's probably the most damaging possible thing. Leaving aside the obvious like Lucille Bluth Archer Mom type who essentially sociopathically ignores and doesn't raise her children except to use them or abuse them, which tends to create people pleasing damaged egos constantly seeking the love they were meant to get from her. The ones I most typically see either don't protect or sacrifice for their children or the devouring mother who protects them too much and tries to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:48 AM
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Post partum depression is a result of hormonal imbalances caused by the pregnancy...and yes, a good man supports his woman during such a time. His paranoid accusations are caused by....being a faithless paranoid loser. So the only support I'll be addressing him with is for child support. The fact you compare these things is ludicrous. We had to have a baby to end up at the level of mental illness apparently all men begin the game at?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:26 AM
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No, what is being sacrificed is the assumption of innocent until proven guilty. As I already suggested. My feelings about being called a lying whore on top of this are important, but not as dangerous as this. I will, and then divorce his ass for calling me a lying whore. He'll get the papers right as he learns that it is indeed his child. And then he can fight me tooth and nail for any access to the baby because such a demented and paranoid mind is not a fit father.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:24 AM
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His feelings are based on paranoia nearing insanity. Which is fine, people have those demons. I've considered them, I'm just not willing to overlook this clear either mental illness or lack of discipline when the only way to solve it is for my husband to call me a lying whore. Here's where the problem becomes obvious. His feelings are based on no actions taken by me and nothing other than, "some extreme minority of lying whores exist". To which the reasonable response is: lots of awful things ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:20 PM
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It isn't easily preventable. It can be prevented by assuming all women are lying whores who should not be trusted. That's not a minor sacrifice, Lord Farquaad. Small Pox doesn't require us to make such an assertion/assumption. Nor do any of our systems by the by.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:16 PM
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I've never online dated and I've had a decent number of boyfriends. Most people I know didn't meet from online dating. It's a significant growth, but nowhere near the prevalent way couples meet. Couples still largely meet due to proximity, which throws your entire concept off from the jump. Next, women have always decided who they talk to and match with (outside of draconian arranged marriages). So that hasn't changed either. Women aren't settling for men to marry, this entire concept is a bulls…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:01 PM
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This goes for people of all genders: You can seek anything you want. You should seek everything you absolutely need. You should align your expectations with those things as much as possible. With that said, you should, if you aren't finding that, be mindful of the likelihood of your finding those things. The more rare the dynamic, lifestyle, wants, or needs you seek are, the less likely you are to find them or the more likely you will have to sacrifice a great deal or become a great deal to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:51 PM
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What she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:47 PM
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I like both and I find both equally not compelling as a reason for sex. Prettiness makes me want to look at you like a nice painting. Hottness makes me glance more than once and find something oddly magnetic kind of like a car crash. I can't say either is more important, they're equally important in my sense of my personal attraction to someone. I think with prettiness it's more gender neutral for me, so it is what allows me to say look at Isabella Roselini and see she's a beautiful woman. Hottn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:47 PM
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Not this again, I don't think they're worse than Nazis, I think they're inconsiderate, disloyal, highly neurotic, paranoid, and do not trust me. And seeing as in this scenario I just had their child, I would no longer wish to be married to them. And any man who makes this a requirement upfront without some sort of Lip in Shameless tier explanation why is a man I'd never date or marry. I don't think they're evil, I just don't wish to be with them. As for my only reason being hurt feelings, let's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:33 PM
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As a little girl and young woman, I would have said fuck yes. That's in part because men in my life made me feel like being a woman was inferior and not a good thing. Around the age of say 25, my answer changed to no. I love dresses and sparkles and being pretty and feminine and am strong, capable, competent, and able to defend myself and no longer regularly near the kind of damaged male ego and psyche that can only fill itself by making little girls and women feel awful. Amazing how that can ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:58 AM
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This really isn't that complicated. Do you notice a peacock or a pigeon first? Do you notice a tiny little paint sign or a Vegas neon waterfall display sign first? It's just as simple as visibility. It's not about masculinity or anything else initially. Peacocks demand your eyes and so does a Vegas firework waterfall neon sign. They're loud and in your face. They want you to look so you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:01 AM
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I see no reason he needs porn to crank it, but if that's the path he wants to go down, its not my business. Just don't do it near me and don't bring the shit you see there to me with expectations. Ideally, he could just go without for a night or two, if he couldn't, I'd be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:59 AM
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Imagine seeing nothing wrong here. Is this a dude you wanna fuck at all? I'm insulted that apparently being monogamous with me is an act of heroism...even tho we all know us ladies could arguably fuck way more and way more varied than any man....but our monogamy is expected, not courageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:14 AM
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Because when my pussy is neutral, sex hurts or is uncomfortable to say nothing of the risk of pregnancy. Because sex isn't a chore I do to please my man, it's a mutually fulfilling intimate moment. If his balls need emptying, God gave him a hand, not me. Because I don't want sex to ever feel like a chore or something I'm compromising about. I want it to be a thrilling and exciting and fun interlude. And finally, because my body isn't his wank doll. Again, he has hands. I also heavily question th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:12 AM
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It does actually, that and that it was unsolicited and doesn't generally go away if I give it a nasty look or acts like I'm the mean one for not being open to it's advances. It doesn't at all. There's legal harassment and then there's the bullshit most men do. Again, Mormons. You wouldn't call the police, but it's still harassment. Do the leg work. Stop approaching strangers. Know the women you go to talk to. This isn't difficult, it just means you can't try any old woman. You have to actually k…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:58 PM
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It happened to a friend of mine, the funny part, the drink wasn't meant for him, it was meant for another friend's wife. They were all on vacation, a strange man did the send a drink over to the table thing, she'd already had plenty so she gave the drink to my friend as they were leaving. They didn't get very far out of the place before he passed out and hit the curb. Had a concussion and everything. A really nasty one. I can only imagine how much worse it could have been if they weren't in a gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:41 PM
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We don't care if he's attractive first and foremost. We care about if we're in the mood for dealing with a shady cum salesman and if we know this one at all or not. Girls lament things they haven't experienced until they have. I've rarely met a girl who experienced it that went on to wish it happened more. You could suss it out, give yourself more credit. You just don't wanna do the legwork. If you can't handle impolite reactions, it is you who should not be bothering women who you don't know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:26 PM
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If you'd read my post prior you'd know my answer would actually be how well they know each other. And it's not entitlement, God I'm tired of people throwing around words just to sound smarter in their hurt feelings. Harassment qualifies under a legal definition, I don't live my life entirely by if I can call the police over it. This qualifies under a kind of non legal harassment. I ain't calling the police, but I was frustrated and annoyed enough to be willing to be mean. Maybe you need to updat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:22 PM
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Look, we don't know your friends so we couldn't begin to say. What I will say is that it isn't always a matter of doing something wrong...sometimes it's a matter of not doing much right...and sometimes it's just pure bad luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:22 AM
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There are women who want to be approached there, just significantly less than most men think, but it's still a watering hole. And if you can stomach the fact a lot are going to be tipsy and thus more cruel in their rejections, you may find some heat. It's not overtly unacceptable and is somewhat built into things, right? It's somewhat a relic of a bygone era of probably the 70s or 80s were people were just monkeys at clubs and bars (and it's not that much of a relic, but it's somewhat like 10% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:06 AM
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Not really. I've been through periods of being quite the social butterfly, periods of being a bit of a hermit, and now my current situation which I would describe as social butterfly with strong boundaries. Nor for the record were my friends. I think it's always a little funny that men think if you don't want piles of unrequested attention you must be introverted. Even though definitionally, extroversion is just about having your battery filled by socializing...it doesn't say socializing with ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:02 AM
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If you developed feelings further in, you need to start flirting and seeking that kind of chemistry and should look for pretty overt signs she's returning that flirtation and chemistry before you go dropping it on her head you've changed how you see her. And if you ain't getting those signs, like bad news, but she's not into you, that ship either never came or it sailed. I think men who end up in this situation are generally unaware of their feelings (which is fine), but then the moment they fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:32 PM
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I've never online dated or used apps and yes, I'm older than a Zoomer. And I was not someone who enjoyed being approached by lots of men, nor were any women I know. I think a lot of folks here forget: it isn't young zoomer women who fought back against cold approach, it's my generation and slightly before who said, "we're sick and tired of being harassed by unwanted male attention, back off, dudes".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:18 PM
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I've spoken on this before. You can be flirty friends. Women don't complain about flirty friends this way. We complain about the dude who never so much as made an off-color joke around us confessing after 3 years of very close near gay best friend friendship and then him instantly dropping the connection like it never meant anything at all to him. Women aren't mad that Charles who has been flirting with us and making eyes for 6 months while platonically hanging out and being flirty friends sudde…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:09 PM
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For sure. And it's not just male attention. A lot of women I know who went out to clubs and bars, they were overstimulated and oversaturated with the stresses of life/college/family/whatever. They didn't want anyone to bother them at all, they wanted to drink and dance with their girls and probably eat wings and just generally feel free and alive because their life was too much for them and they wanted one night of escaping that. Male attention wasn't in the cards at all and any they received wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:31 PM
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I agree with a lot of your reasoning too. I think the question of why now and why me is a big part of it. And I'm saying that as someone who was a 27 year old virgin (men aren't that much kinder about inexperience). And that was really what he wanted to know as well. It's a pretty smart question to be asking alongside: what does this mean to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:17 PM
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I think of warm approach as like...you're friends or very well acquainted and hang out in the same spaces/community/circle. Warm is you probably know their name and some details about them and have talked a few times prior and hopefully had fun and best case scenario some flirty energy together. Cool approach is like, you share the same spaces/communities, you've exchanged pleasantries before like "hey" or "how's your day going". They'd mildly recognize your face or not be weirded out to learn y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:12 PM
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I'm sorry humor with a point doesn't translate, but let me be more clear. 1. The idea women just must have stds from having lots of sex, kind of old and tired. But also, yes. I think what it seems like a lot of people struggle with is accepting that if they're unusual (which an over 30 virgin is), they're probably going to be with someone unusual. Which may mean an STD or that they're a little crazy too or unattractive traditionally speaking, or religious, or just plain weird. Pick your poison o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:07 PM
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I'm a woman and I basically agree on a certain philosophical level, I would just heavily warn against cold approach. Cool or warm, absolutely everything you say applies. But cold approaching just realistically won't go well. Women aren't going to put up with the level of constant persistent annoyance that would come with every strange man with a full sack shooting his shot at her, so they're likely to become increasingly verbally and emotionally brutal to would be suitors. They'll also become mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:49 PM
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You're an extreme rare man. And many of them do want an inexperienced man, they just don't want like what I said in my original post, an inexperienced man who thinks he's about to get adventurous with all the holes, kinks, and fetishes he's been feeding with porn and sexual frustration for 30+ years. Beggars always wanting to be choosers. They need to be financially and emotionally stable such that a woman is will to settle for their inexperienced dicking because they're benefitting greatly in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:11 PM
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I don't think that's true, I just think it's going to end up looking a very specific way in a lot of cases. He's an unlikely human, he's going to have to find another unlikely human. She's also inexperienced so she's not going to mind being each other's first bicycle. She's extremely experienced and this extremely confident in her ability to use his body like a dildo and prevent him from harming her and/or just sleeps with most men so her standards of good sex aren't the highest and/or she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:38 PM
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Yeah, I dunno, I tend to think both genders face internal and external pressures to a pretty large degree. I can maybe see women having slightly more external appearance based pressures, but we're also generally better at navigating those because they've been there fivever and steadily growing as we do, while men are kind of new to having external based pressures so they aren't as good at navigating them and they weren't steadily growing, they were just suddenly kind of poof there. I think men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:32 PM
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Yes, absolutely. We need shelters for men and boys especially those escaping abusive situations. We need greater prioritization of men/ boys who are being human trafficked. More mental health programs designed around men/boys. Less medicalization of being a man/boy in certain clear ways (being 5 and not wanting to sit still and listen and rathering to throw things and destroy them is not a clinical problem, it's called being a five year old little boy). Coaching/mentoring programs for fatherless…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:16 PM
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I don't wanna date single fathers. I think it's fair for people to not wanna date single mothers. I do not think high value men or women wanna get involved with someone else's messes unless (and even this is quite a reach) the person who is a single parent was widowed and the child is extremely young (under 2). Otherwise, my dating life isn't your baggage check.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:10 PM
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I don't think most women are interested in teaching an inexperienced partner in part because doing so is very compromising to the integrity of our bodies, uncomfortable, or even painful. In order to imagine this, imagine it's like teaching someone to ride a bike, except you're the bike with all the same crashes, running into a try, not breaking soon enough, falling over, bumps, and bruises. I love teaching people to do things too, I love the glow as they figure things out and watching their comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:08 PM
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Like many, my answer is that it heavily depends why he's a virgin, what his sexual expectations are, what his sexual interests are, what his relationship expectations are, and what he thinks sex means about him, me, and us. My concerns are, beyond the obvious he's a socially awkward and uncouth hobgoblin, is that his expectations for sex will be very high, that he'll have a lot of kinks/fetishes/ exploration he very much wants and feels a certain kind of pushy entitlement to getting that I am ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:58 PM
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That's a nope from me. Did it, done it, got the t shirt. I've got my purebred straight man and I'm happy with him. Not interested in being part of some dude's journey and processing of his sexuality. An awful lot are just gay. Not interested in dealing with all the cultural bullshit on both sides. And yes, personally I just find it plain gross a dude being into dudes. It's fine. It's cool, totally friends with um, but I don't wanna kiss and fuck someone who is just as into that as he would be du…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:18 AM
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Common sense reason usually does
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:38 PM
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No, we're just putting those ones in rehabilitation facilities which already exist. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:17 AM
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Look, I'm not against genderless decriminalization at all. But I see their argument focusing on women pretty fast. There's a benefit to society financially to letting women off the hook, not because they're lower functioning, but because there aren't enough of them for it to be sensible financially and it damages society and all the children who aren't abused. There's no such benefit to society for men because we would still need prisons for all the violent men which is a lot and most men aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:54 AM
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Oh it would be easy to expand to non violent offending men just as easily for sure. It's just the most easy to see this criticism and argument when applied to women here for a variety of reasons involving children and the fact there's so few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:36 AM
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I just read it and it was a fairly sensible argument is the worst part of all this. Of course it attacks many foundational concepts, truths, and considerations of our current justice system, but it has a sort of common sense appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:32 AM
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I've never even heard of this unless feminists are just anti prison period at this point. Edit: Ok, I just read one news article from 2014 and it isn't the worst argument in the world. 7% of inmates are women. Extremely few are violent offenders and the majority of them are sole caregivers for children. Keeping their prisons open, staffed, and operational represents a huge economic drain in order to control what is essentially a non-violent bunch of law breakers. They're generically against the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:18 AM
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I mean it's not a given in my brain, but it also isn't my absolute favorite thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:38 AM
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Not at all. It's the difference between saying, "no one ever loved me" and "I just haven't met the right one yet". It's not lying to say the second. No, but I'm aware there are plenty of women who would. I've done my time in fixer upper land and I did not enjoy it. I leave that for women with a passion for it. I was giving an example of something that requires sexual disclosure. So unless he believes there's a reason to sexually disclose, I don't think it's a requirement. Same for preferences/de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:36 AM
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This is actually pretty simple: There being someone for everyone in no way guarantees you will find your someone. They could be oceans away and you could never meet them. But, it seems extremely likely given the number and diversity of people on this planet, someone out there exists who would like you back. This is usually a suggestion similar to "there's more fish in the sea" and that you must persistently seek them. Just because there's someone out there for you and you meet them, doesn't mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:51 PM
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Work on marketing the truth better each time. Accept that person wasn't going to be for you, they don't like who you are, right. And your lack of experience is a part of who you are for better and for worse. Keep trying. I don't massively disagree with anyone who has pointed out that unless they're asking, it really isn't something you have to overtly tell them right out unless you think there's a good reason to tell them. Like, I disclosed the fact I'd been through assault because I didn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:58 PM
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Loyalty means respect, defending that person (even when I may personally think they're wrong), not talking badly about them in a way I wouldn't say directly to their face or haven't already said to them, not betraying their trust, keeping my word to the best of my ability, not leaving them at the drop of a hat, and clearly within a certain context sexual fidelity. I've been loyal to my friends of a long time and my boyfriend. Frankly, I'm a pretty loyal person in general, so I've also been loyal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:31 PM
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What is your goal? What are your ethics? Like these two things would heavily dictate what you should do about your low experience, right? If your goal is a happy and healthy relationship, at some point you're going to need to be honest, and sooner is probably better than later. Especially if you have a higher ethical system than "fuck others, take care of me". If your goal is sex and you have low ethics: lie about it. (I think this is wrong as is obvious, but, there ya go). If your goal is a hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:28 PM
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I don't see it as inhuman to think most people will be generically a net negative and should be approached with caution so as to secure a net neutral or positive and certainly avoid those negatives. However, I accept if somehow you define humanity as being foolhardy and masochistic, it would mean we basically agree about the world, and you just think the appropriate response is to keep eating shit without changing hoping one day it tastes like chocolate, and I think the best response is to decli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:21 PM
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Welcome to actually communicating with people 101. This is exactly what communicating with people is like. This is why understanding a person's motivations and capabilities is so important PRIOR to trusting them with anything. And do not think this is some women only issue. Everything I said applies to both genders equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:27 PM
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I have what I would call realistic, but I imagine others would call cynical perspective of people. Not at all, I am providing advice on how to navigate the fact you can only control yourself and your own expectations and that other people lack self-awareness and taking responsibility. My advice is exactly the same for men and women, which suggests I think this is a person thing, not a gender thing. I'm glad you're asking how that's possible because I'll say it again: You cannot GENUINELY care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:21 PM
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Yeah, I hope it's totally obvious I agree with you that on some level, women do want this thing too. And I would even go so far as to say on the level they want it (which I would call inactive) they often do a piss poor job of living up to their end of things. Oh for sure, I totally appreciate the perspective of an older gentleman. I reached that point in my mid 20s in part because I just felt like there wasn't a person out there who would fit me. I'd tried enough and been hurt enough to think, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:15 PM
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It's not mind-reading, it's educated guessing and wisdom and studying the wind. I understand why young and desperate people make this mistake, but it is in fact a mistake. And repeatedly making it means you're engaged in an act of madness. I understand why you repeatedly make this mistake, but it is still a mistake. It is foolish to be so free with your heart and mind with strangers who have given you no solid reason to believe they would actually be open to hearing your misery without is changi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:05 PM
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None of these really concern me on the face of it, the why of it would be where my concerns could kick in. Like I look at 6, and the only way that concerns me is if it's because he seems like he may be gay or he's a player and these are all girls he's hooking up with and hanging out with. If he's just some dude who happens to really get on with women platonically, grand, I think a lot of us have that phase in life. I look at 1, and the only way that concerns me is if it's because he's some basem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:39 PM
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So, I realize this is kind of a hairline distinction, but I think it's important. And keep in mind, I'm generalizing heavily here, I'm not pretending this applies to every single human. Men actively want something in the sense of being at a point of seeking. They're the equivalent of say, someone who doesn't have any groceries left in the fridge and needs to go to the supermarket (not a perfect metaphor, but hopefully you get what I mean). women inactively want something in the sense that they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:34 PM
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I think it's pretty true, and I'm speaking as someone who was once an early 20s woman that thought she was ready to settle down young. I wasn't, every time it came around, I panicked thoroughly and knew this wasn't the guy and I wasn't ready. And I've seen similar in most of the people around me. You're ready for a certain kind of lower tier commitment in most cases unless that just so happens to be the perfect person for you, and even then it's likely to include a lot of rocky and difficult mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:24 PM
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I saw one comment and responded to it. I'm not surprised at all, people ask for things they don't really want all the time. People also love drama and misery at a distance. This is in fact part of why I so heavily suggest not sharing until you've determined it would actually be healthy, productive, desired, and well received. That's why he's to blame. Someone tells you to tell them something, does not mean you have to or even should. You're supposed to be evaluating them for yourself. Not just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:08 AM
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I did not go on to do that, nice projection. Nor am I mad, again, don't assign me a tone you need to function. I said men and people in general, I did not ascribe this just to boyfriend. (For a conversation about understanding skills, you're proving my point pretty well.) I'm not treating either of you any way because you're men. As I made clear, if you'd paid attention, I treat all humans as if they are not interested in hearing my problems until they indicate otherwise. I assume sharing would …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:00 AM
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I personally wouldn't care, but that's probably because I understand the expense of braces because my mother paid for mine as a kid and told me all about it, so I understand it's not easy to afford and respect the call.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:25 AM
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I'm not, I listen to my man all the time. Sometimes even about his sorrows. I understand they are not complaining about that. Sorry I'm not your cardboard cut out, what I'm saying is the thing you think is bad, it's even worse than you think. Yes, you cannot and should not trauma dump. You also should not be assuming that after months this person has consented or wants to hear those things. I don't know how else to say this, but it's months. This isn't much of a connection. I know it feels quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:36 AM
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Because no one in their early 20s is really ready to settle down or deal with that sort of thing. Nor would they believe it as real at that age and they shouldn't because the person doing it is rarely capable of it actually being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:29 AM
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For sure. I think a lot of the dating and relationship woes I see is essentially a Mexican standoff of sorts with women feeling unromanced, unappreciated, and disrespected and thus refusing to form bonds and men feeling women aren't worth that (or more often that this level of effort is too high for what they assume should be an easier thing to get and thus refusing to romance, appreciate, and respect. If I were going to counter it, I would point out that typically, it is the man here who wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:28 AM
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I think men act like their sex drive isn't complicated, but hang around here long enough and it will become abundantly clear that just fucking is not good enough for the majority of men and that there are lots of stories they're telling themselves about sex and women involved. If you want a hint about what one of those stories might be, there's the hunter narrative that frequently appears. An argument some forward, that I'm not entirely opposed to is that to be a woman is to be degraded, you sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:23 AM
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So, look, what I'm about to say I think is true wisdom and maturity, you can feel differently, but keep in mind, I'm a woman saying this: Why on earth would I want to share my off days, sadness, frustration, upset, excitement, or failures with someone I barely know who hasn't demonstrated any reason I should trust them or care what they think or expect any genuine comfort from? I save that for my blood ties and people who have both earned and consented to that kind of connection with me. That so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:28 PM
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This is one of my favorite things...the character in 50 shades of grey...doesn't want to be kept as a sex slave. Frankly, several of the conflicts in the book are surrounding the fact she doesn't want the sex slave relationship and is fighting with him because this is the relationship he's claiming to want. It is a female power fantasy about changing this dude from someone who wants a sex slave to someone who wants a wife. By the end of the book, he is changed. In some ways I feel like I'm not j…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:16 PM
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I assure you, they do, it just isn't always instantaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:33 PM
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Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:33 PM
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At no point did I suggest lying. You're an adult presumably. Have the emotional and mental regulation to share appropriately. It isn't appropriate to share things with people you barely know. It's not appropriate to share things at times when the person isn't ready to receive them. Earn the ability to appropriately share.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:32 PM
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I'm not really sure what your point is. Right moves, wrong target is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:31 PM
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A lot aren't, a lot are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:30 PM
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That's actually a surprisingly rare trope of the rom com/dram genre and mostly aimed at teenage girls and middle-late aged women. The former because they're trying to get their brain around having to date their greatest predator, the latter because they're longing for any kind of passion in their loveless marriages. But again, this is one trope, there are so many kinds of rom movies which do not include domination or extreme behavior that would end up in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:29 PM
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Dude, weeks of dating, you gotta be trolling. I would say it will be typically rare for people to be opening up for months and months of dating. Again, months and months of good times and displays of competence, maybe you start opening up a bit and see how it goes. A few weeks? Dude, any person opening up to me in a few weeks (doesn't matter if we're dating), I assume does not have their shit together, I assume they're a mess. No one with their emotional house in order and a competent view of hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:26 PM
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I'm not entirely sure which movies you're watching, but many rom coms are not about a successful dude, many are about a sort of workplace romance, they're in high school (which I did have all the time in the world in high school), or he's a billionaire and as far as you can tell that means he does what he wants when he wants, which basically adds up based on my experience of a lot of very wealthy people. Next, he often does things she thinks are wrong or incompetent, that's usually how you get y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:21 PM
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Oh my god, gravemaxxing, no, stop, too much too much! I do miss a little of the pure insanity at times myself. More and more it is just talking to a lot of hopeless chucks without any interesting ideas involving corpses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:15 PM
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I've seen the oft made comparison between porn and romdrama/romcom. And it isn't entirely without base, but I think this is an area where the cracks begin to show. (And I'm leaving out the cracks of human trafficking and exploitation already). Women don't enjoy porn style sex generally and assuming men care about female pleasure (which I'm doing at least for the moment) as a significant component of sex, you couldn't learn much useful from porn about sex or how to have sex in a way that is going…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:14 PM
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Not exactly, no. Don't get me wrong, you can point at isolated things and they're unhealthy or unrealistic, right. Like that so often they're millionaires or vampires. So often they have an element of relationship dynamics that isn't exactly solid gold. But I'm aware those aren't the reasons women are drawn in or the things they see that so enchants them. It's not the reason they're there so to speak. And the reasons they are, I have to ultimately conclude are healthy and realistic in the sense …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:40 AM
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I'd prefer unpredictable, so it is up to my free choice, personally. It would just be another area of compatibility to seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:21 AM
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If intimacy and relationships in real life were more like the movies, we'd be more interested. But they so rarely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:14 AM
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Tolerance, patience, and forgiveness are earned is my answer. You're fucking up that early in the process bodes poorly because you're meant to be putting your best foot forward... and your best foot is fucking up apparently. I get that's got to be exhausting, but it's arguably women being prudent. Even if I can acknowledge it would suck for you or anyone else being met with that degree of ruthless efficiency. I'm not surprised most men cannot cut it for me and still try to pull out some physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:11 AM
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I'm not nearly dumb enough to raw dog a dude. The point is that male condoms are significantly superior to female ones. That's my only discussion. And personally, doubling up condoms with pull out is even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:05 AM
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Thanks. I hope it works out for ya. I'd say don't be afraid to try new things as you go. I'm not a dramatic or theatrical human, but I volunteered for about a year and a half helping with shows and it was a really fun and curious experience I'm glad I got under my belt. Just because it didn't become my life hobby doesn't mean it wasn't valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:03 AM
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I love my man and genuinely feel he made all the bad I've been through and continue to have to barely tolerate worth it. So I'm not going to select anything that means I don't have him. What I will say, is I'm not sure why it is always presenter like our only options are no love ever or regular harassment, assault, and mistreatment starting at the age of like 11. Couldn't we instead consider raising and teaching men how to appropriately communicate interest, when interest is acceptable and unacc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:17 PM
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https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/internal-condom/how-effective-are-internal-condoms https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms It's not even difficult to find: 79% vs. 87% typical use. Even perfect use, an external condom is better. You're talking about a nearly 10% difference. Which is huge speaking as the human that can get pregnant. And, it's a lot easier to achieve perfect use with external condoms over internal ones as many he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:59 PM
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Local theater often is an expansive and fun community of people and doesn't just include people with like acting or costuming talents, but lots and lots of simple, grunt labor. So you can just volunteer in it and they hang out a lot, work on shows together, etc. Very gender diverse, lots of fun. Similar for the arts 🎨, but yeah, there's a lot of painting or pottery or so forth groups to join and lots of art shows to attend or help with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:49 PM
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Never seen one, wouldn't know how to use it, it's significantly less effective than male condoms, male condoms are way more effective than pull out (and imagine using both condoms and pull out). Condoms aren't a question to me and never were or will be. You either have one (a male one) and we'll keep on the train. Or you don't and I'm getting off because I'm not interested in risky sex or someone fitting me with even less reliable contraception. As for not being on the pill, I did it for three y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:32 AM
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Bars, clubs, concerts, other big events. And group oriented hobbies and spaced like gyms, board game cafes, theatrical or artistic spaces. And finally obviously school and work are all places to make friends and community
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:22 AM
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I'm sure it happens, but isn't super common compared to the big three I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:55 AM
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Promise you didn't. I was suggesting that people (but sure, let's say men) confuse their apathy for stability, which I explained elsewhere more thoroughly, but you can have the short of it. You don't have a stable romantic connection, you have apathy. You no longer care or are truly invested in a romantic way in those women. You are roomies with a pretense. You are not romancing or passionate, you're just objects at rest together. Men think they have a stable romantic connection. They don't. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:54 PM
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I think, ya didn't understand me, and that's ok. Much love, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:36 PM
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I would suspect it's a neck and neck tie between: Infidelity/Cheating (not gendered, could be she's cheating, could be he's cheating, but someone is cheating). Drugs/ Abuse/ Mental Illness (again, not gendered) Financial Strain / Mismatch (again, not gendered) If I have to pick just one, I would probably go with infidelity/cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:37 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:01 PM
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I'm fine with you feeling that way, as I made clear, for women like me, I'm not a tuna, I'm glad when men are overt they hold ideas like yours because we are not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:51 PM
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Yeah, I'd never fuck you in 3 dates, but you'd know I'm invested and attracted. I'm just not stupid, I'm not fucking a dude because we had dinner 3 times and it was fun and I think he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:28 PM
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I agree women are not uniformly disciplined and that discipline waxes and wanes. I just don't think it does so enough to be counted upon as a factor and I certainly don't think a lack of discipline is to be celebrated or emulated by any gender. Nor do I think it is intrinsic to either gender. If a man asked me do I think he's going to get a lot of casual sex (assuming he wants that) from going up to women and going, "wanna fuck" (assume it's said a little more smartly than this, but that this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:18 PM
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Agreed on all counts. There are absolutely women or emotional situations women are in that cause them to just wanna get laid, look at a guy and go, "you'll do". It's rarer and not super typical enough to really count on it as the main vehicle for relationships and sex...but it clearly happens. But, if you've been talking to a girl for weeks and she hasn't jumped your bones, that doesn't mean she doesn't like you or think you're hot. It mostly means she's not emotionally unstable, out to prove so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:14 PM
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When I look inside and ask myself why I never really approached a man, it goes something like this: Me: Why have you never approached a man? Myself: Well, I'm not at all interested in strangers, not even at social circumstances like a club or a bar. I'm not there to meet someone and I'm not really open to meeting someone there. (So far no sexism) Me: What about men in your social circle/community that are known entities? Myself: I was never really overtly seeking anyone in that way, I might have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:56 PM
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It's so heartening just to see a man acknowledge this and think it himself or at least think it about women. Sometimes I think I'm taking crazy pills to explain the simple fact that pretty doesn't mean yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:21 PM
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It doesn't exist is the problem. I also don't have an issue with people locking their doors at night, not going into bad neighborhoods, or being wary of certain ethnicities until they get to know them. *** Their issue is that those people are already in their countries and/or citizens literally of those countries. And again, the issue is wanting a distance like that. I'm willing to get to know men as are the vast majority of women. We're just not willing to take chances in certain isolated and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:15 PM
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Not at all, fearing strange men and taking steps to be safe with them is no different than carrying bear spray or a gun in the woods and not having food on you or having it well contained. Are you racist or extreme against bears? No. You probably even like them at a distance and think they're cute. You just don't wanna run into one alone in the woods and if you do, you'd like to be prepared. Yeah, known as listening to what women say and accepting it when it's reasonable and not harming anyone, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:05 PM
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It's true, I cannot. I can only choose how to react to people who have not disciplined their sexuality, expectations, and engaged their higher cognition/will-power. The fact you consider having discipline, higher cognition, and will-power to be a performance you must put on to get laid is fine, it's also exactly the kind of man I'm trying actively to avoid. I hope he finds the kind of woman who is like him, as unlikely and few as those are. I want you two to find each other. I want to find the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:01 PM
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This isn't hard or the gotcha you think: I know what my libido says about a man or if I think he's pretty nearly instantly. This is just how libido, lust, and attraction works for basically all humans as far as I can tell. However, that reaction is nearly negligible data, no different than thinking a flower is pretty or a painting is nice or that I'd like to eat that juicy cheeseburger. I'm a human blessed with higher cognition and will-power. And that higher cognition and will-power almost as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:57 PM
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How could I be attracted to a person I barely know enough to think it wise to have sex. Only foolish people follow the tug of their lust around like that enough to act upon it. Most women aren't that foolish, if only because the consequences of such foolishness are too high for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:50 PM
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I appreciate your concern for my internal dialogue. I think you may want to explore the idea that you're trying to rationalize your use of casual sex as a coping mechanism for your own commitment and intimacy issues brought about by a failed and toxic marriage. As for the rest, I remain in my conclusion and stance that casual sex is for fools, which is fine. You are more than welcomed to be foolish and reactionary due to past trauma. What is unwelcome, is the suggestion this sort of behavior is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:49 PM
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It is not, in fact, a lie. I'm neither terminally online nor urbanite. Nor is it my experience that other women of the grass touching ethnic variety feel differently. Most women feel a primal fear of being alone with a stranger who is male. And it isn't extremist or militant racism. It's just a response which causes in us avoidance, wariness, mistrust, and taking precautions no different than if you encountered a bear in the woods. It is not uncivilized, and I'm sorry if that's how you feel. Cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:46 PM
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No, they only need form strong bonds of friendship/emotional intimacy in ways that are not horrendously unethical. Speaking personally, I don't approve of forming a bond around the playing of golf (what a horrendously stupid waste of space and time), but I cannot for a moment say that is an unethical thing to do, bond over, or use as a vehicle for emotional intimacy and talk. Now, bonding over abusing women by drugging and fucking them, that's horrendously unethical and any good and upstanding h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:43 PM
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I think Mike Arrow put it really well with his comment about a relationship worth having, but, I will say: If you're saying you want a relationship, ANY relationship, and I'm giving you advice, I am first and foremost assuming that you're out there putting yourself in proximity to potential partners in a real and thorough way. This is the greatest predictor of relationships and absolutely where the advice for any relationship at all begins. Put bluntly, you gotta be in a community, talking to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:31 PM
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If this is the case, perhaps they should be doing more to ensure the happiness and stability of their marriage. It would be self-serving of them of course, but very very wise. If you're going to kill yourself because she leaves...well the reasonable and logical approach would be to make sure she doesn't leave at all costs (assuming you value your life).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:47 PM
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What this gal said. In fact, if I had to guess, men being divorced for being terrible slobby partners isn't the most likely cause of divorce by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:43 PM
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When women are suggesting you be kinder to each other, we don't mean as strangers interacting in public. We mean as friends, confidants, mentors, fathers, brothers, emotional support systems, and other relationships which generally occur between friends, acquaintances, family members, and other communal knowings. I think men absolutely need to be told this if they will overtly admit they don't have friends or don't have friends they feel comfortable being emotionally intimate with. You should fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:42 PM
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Let me clear this up for you. The reason men who are being clear and frank when they say, "I want to fuck you" are failing with a certain majority population of women, is that they don't want to fuck you yet and think you're gross, impertinent, and a pig. Now, with the right amount of courtship, flirting, relationship and connection building, getting to know each other, and gestures at commitment, could they be brought around to wanting to fuck you...of course. Because by that point you would no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:34 PM
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Emotional Connection doesn't prevent pregnancy, it gives you someone to support and go through whatever path you go down with you which is both entirely necessary and entirely appropriate. It also puts you in the position of discussing these things and being smarter than the mindset which produces casual sex. It is in fact, protective so to speak. It isn't perfect, but it is significantly better than the casual sex approach. This is similarly true with diseases. I also encourage practicing safe …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:28 PM
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My answer really doesn't change much. That person has a self-destructive quality (which is bad), but not an inherently foolish one. If you're wondering: Fool = person who takes actions which draw them away from what they want Fool = person who ignores likely long-term outcomes in favor of short term gratification. This self destructive woman you're painting doesn't fit. Her actions are taking her closer to what she wants (self-destruction). She is not ignoring likely long-term outcomes in favor …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:18 PM
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No. I stopped tut-tutting people after OP made it clear this wasn't that kind of thread. Nor am I particularly interested in doing so to someone sharing their personal experiences which match my own. If a man had just shared his experience of a woman doing the same thing, I'd have agreed that it seems this is a pattern in people and that I've seen it in women. The fact some of you struggle with shifting contexts is a you problem, not a me being consistent problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:13 PM
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I look down on people for it, not specifically nor exclusively women. It's not hate, and I'm fascinated you chose to focus on women when my post was much more directed at arguing this isn't a masculine characteristic. I believe in myself, I love, and I'm not afraid of being naked with this ass. Try again. The reason I argue and believe it is foolish to do without an emotional connection are because of the threats of disease, pregnancy, literal violent danger, emotional pains likely to result in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:42 PM
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No, I don't believe seeking emotional connections is inherently foolish nor do u think defending those pairings even when toxic is the result of being foolish. It is more typically the result of being vulnerable, afraid, and broken. Which is a sad state of affairs to be sure. The problem with your comparison, if you're wondering is that an abusive relationship is a victim thing and does in many and even most cases include a proverbial gun to your head, if not a real one. You're not foolish to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:37 PM
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I'm not interested in having sex without emotional connection. I look down on people who are as fools. I don't believe this is male sexuality. I believe this is fool sexuality. Men may have a greater tendency to be fools with their sexuality for a variety of reasons, but I'm tired of this being presented as inherently masculine. A lack of discipline over your dick isn't masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:50 AM
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Yes, because what you described is romance and passion...dude, I assume you're a Troll, so I'm gonna bow out. Hopefully real ones get it and think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:46 AM
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I can't say I've seen every season, but it cracks me up to see a hapless middle class selfish yuppie go to like Azerbaijan and the dude is trying to speak like a patriarch to her and she won't eat goat. I don't see this as abuse. It's equally funny when a high maintenance Russian woman comes here and is making some overly wealth sad sack buy her purses and he's acting shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:43 AM
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I started out saying people, hombre didn't understand that so I switched to men. I think people grow apathetic towards their partners and treat them shamefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:41 AM
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Mhmmm. And that's cool for them. I found a man who treats me like a hot sexy beloved women who he loves and appreciates more each day...that's the only relationship I would say is stable and doesn't include fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:40 AM
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No, you did not understand my point and since you'd like gendered language: Men confuse their apathy for stability. It is not. Men aren't stable, they're apathetic. They no longer care. They pretend this is the same thing as a stable romantic connection, but it isn't. It's no longer romantic, it's barely even a connection. There is no enthusiasm, interest, nor concern. The fact you can argue semantically this state is a "stable" one for them is simply missing the point. The connection and romanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:46 PM
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First of all, the person who introduced me to the delicious trash heap that is 90 day fiance, was a man. Almost anyonce can enjoy that deranged ass show. It's comedic gold. Second of all, yes, people confuse drama for passion, note, I said people. Not just women. But no, this isn't a female specific trait. You know what else people confuse, apathy for stability. Neither of these are good states. The real truth is that a stable relationship has passion. It means falling in love in little ways eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:40 PM
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THIS, like holy shit. It's so prevalent and known about that the solution isn't creepy fucks gtfo, it's you should stop showing your shoulders and knees, little girl because men might get ideas. I'm fucking 11 and I want to wear a sun dress, but oh no, the creeps might get ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:32 PM
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I had my first job when I was 12. When I was leaving the crap job workforce, I was working for a company that routinely hired 13 year old cashiers. In fact they were and are known for it. They pitch themselves as a first great job for ambitious youth (they really are too, excellent company).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:29 PM
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I'd give this the gold if I could. It's much more than cat calling and overt sexual harassment, but the point remains the same. I'm really glad if your sister never went through any of that especially if it is because your parents and family were protective, but her experience is uncommon to say the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:29 PM
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People think joy and misery cannot coexist. It can and often does. I don't even disagree with you. You still have to pick your suffering and misery if you're lucky, you get a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:48 AM
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I want children and I'm no hedonist, but much like you suggest, the moment I'm getting assigned the Alicent role in House of Dragons, I gotta become a killer with poison. What a drag.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:47 AM
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Uwu is my /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:45 AM
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Everyone has some hate. I don't think he's fueled by it. I think for him intellectual pursuit is his fuel. And I don't think he hates women or men really.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:45 AM
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I think life includes suffering no matter what. But sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:44 AM
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I totally hate being sexually liberated. I wanna go back to being treated like a farm animal owned by one man and given to another whether I like it or not uwu. Women aren't miserable because of sexual liberation. We're miserable because life is a miserable place and you've gotta pick your poison. I'm just happy to be able to pick my poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:23 PM
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The line: where have all the good men gone is not telling men to improve themselves, it's complaining the good men are gone. A woman complaining at her man is not a demand he improve himself in this casual way that is suggested, it's saying if you don't change, I'm going. Very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:15 PM
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My desired outcome is a joyful, relatively peaceful and harmonious, healthy relationship that ends in marriage and inevitably ends when one of us kicks the bucket. Children are a must in this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:04 PM
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I dated high functioning ones. I also have been friends with very high functioning ones. They all share these common difficulties and these difficulties are not something which is overcome, they're something you can tolerate in a friendship that you cannot in a relationship as much. I'm sorry to say, it just cannot be. And I've had bad NTs. He may be a terrible partner for various survival and reflection reasons, but he's never going to be a dude that looks at you crying or upset like he's utter…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:30 PM
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I would have said older stuff. Like read his book. Watch his early stuff, you'll get self-improvement without hate. Yeah, for sure, I think there's someone out there for everyone without the hefty helping of poison for your soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:20 PM
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Yeah, I'd also assume maybe it wasn't going as well as I'd thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:10 PM
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Asking where all the good men have gone isn't asking men to improve or man up. Nor is a woman demanding the man she's dating do better her complaining at him. She's outlining what he has to do before she walks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:07 PM
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Thank you. I totally support men getting inspired, getting fit, having self-esteem, boundaries, standards, and developing a life in which they're growing and developing. I just don't think a movement fueled by hatred is necessarily the best door to be walking through, especially for a gender already fueled by testosterone. I think a lot of dudes here would benefit way more from listening to like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Steve-O, maybe Destiny for the more progressive sorts, Jocko Willink, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 PM
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Fuzzy, I was raised with long term values, and I've dated two autistic men. It's a fucking nightmare. This commenter is correct. They lack social skills, they lack understanding skills, they lack empathy. They don't play mind games because that would imply they have the ability to semi-accurately perceive the other mind in the relationship, they don't. They just ignore the humanity therein. They aren't giving tons of communication, they're talking, that's not the same thing if you cannot hear an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:53 PM
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I mean, I'm not against working out or self-development or self-esteem, obviously, but why you do things matters almost as much as the things you do (we'll get to that). I also think all of this is incredibly generic advice and essentially no person really needs to hear it. They just need to be inspired to do it. I am entirely against any philosophy which treats relationships transactionally and like they're a market. I think it's vile and unhealthy to tell men or women that there should be some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:47 PM
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I'm assuming this situation means I have no idea what happened. Because I have been ghosted after a great first date...for not having sex. So yeah, I mean, I kind of knew why it was happening and it at most irritated me or pissed me off. But if I had no idea, I dunno, I don't think I'd think very much of it unless I was super into him, which is relatively a rare experience, I think. I'd probably assume it was just about sex, which means I'm glad the fuckboi ghosted. If not, I dunno, there's so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:36 PM
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I actually had a look see at his entire profile as well on the off chance this was just a bad look on a bad day. I couldn't find in scrolling and scrolling one normal tone or affable tone post. Now, could he be a totally different human than he portrays himself online, sure, but what I have to go on suggests the dude has an intensity and control issue, which isn't super unusual, but it's going to scare a lot of women if it is indeed the case. I don't know him, looking at some profile or asking h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:39 PM
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I used to literally pray for my guy friends to turn down a hang out and tell me this was the reason because it'd mean I could stop worrying they were carrying a torch for me. I was overjoyed every time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:05 AM
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Be honest, obviously. Then if we don't mesh we both know right away and can move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:58 AM
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Guess none of my previous relationships count. No peen interaction. I'm proud of being with my current man because he's wonderful in basically a thousand ways and I love him and feel so lucky he feels the same. I'd say I was proud around the 4 month mark when we got more official and i was convinced things may actually work between us long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:57 AM
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It's always been the same from what I can tell: Loved ones should be sensitive/ coddling to a heavy degree while encouraging improvement (where possible), acceptance (where necessary) and generally not living like an open wound. When it is a bodily insecurity, anyone with access to that body should be entirely sensitive/coddling with basically near zero room for criticism, but at most light encouragement towards improvement where possible. If it's a deal breaker, delicacy is the order of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:55 AM
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I'm defining wrong as failing to get him the happy/desired outcome. I'm defining atypical as unusual behavior for a man courting women, just to be clear. Based on these definitions, it is absolutely wrong and atypical to be interacting with the world and carrying this weight of intensity, demand, and control. It's hugely ineffective and off-putting. Women do not generally like intensity, demanding, or controlling behavior. It's scary. It's worrisome. Desperation or no, don't do it. It cannot end…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:37 AM
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Most women's standards aren't high. Struggling in dating is normal. Being unable to find anyone isn't. All these things can be true. A lot of good advice will include failure. Skills aren't typically one and done situations. Gotta keep trying even when it fails pretty often. It's a lot of self improvement, some patience, and a touch of luck never hurts. If you're putting yourself out there to get lucky consistently, then you covered luck. You don't sound patient with the process or the people, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:22 AM
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For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:35 AM
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Absolutely. Especially since said data can only be self reported. Yeah, my experience of men is that they think they're doing a lot, and some may even be filling a lot of hours...with incompetence and taking ages on their tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:14 PM
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I'd say I know about ten single moms, they all are, by the way, totally and obviously fucking nuts. Never seen them without a serious boyfriend and a few in the wings. They aren't even hot enough to justify this lunacy. And the dudes are solidish. I know about 5 really wonderful single dads. Good men who fucked/married crazy and got blindsided. They're struggling to find women and the ones they do find are predictably lunatics that try to make them turn on their own children. Like the math just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:13 PM
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I dunno what crack you're smoking. I wouldn't date a single dad. Gross. I don't care if he's attractive and a good dad. He's got a baby with someone else. I'm not interested in the step mommy gig or being the side piece to his family drama. There's a reason they aren't together, but either way is not a good omen for us. Either he's crazy, yikes obv, or she is and I'm gonna have to tolerate her meddling in our life, no thanks. Very few women I know would date a single dad if they've got no kids. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:04 PM
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I think you should trust your lived experiences more, so long as you're taking your lived experience with a grain of salt, introspecting, and regularly practicing the assumption that most behavior is explained by stupidity/selfishness, not malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:56 PM
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I dunno. Ask a size queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:44 PM
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Oh my god a study, I guess I'll just flush all my lived experience out of my brain because of a study! Thank God, here I was think many (not all) men and boys I know are inconsiderate slobs that think women were apparently born to keep them clean, alive, and have and care for their offspring while they fuck off after work... But a study says my eyes are wrong. We are saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:43 PM
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No, what counts as meeting the minimum changes as you age. Per example, most 16 year old women don't expect that, right? What does a 16 year old girl want from a 16 year old boy? Crappy job Going Nowhere Crappy car Lives with parents, but isn't super reliant on them beyond a roof. In education and has a plan. Socializing successfully with peers and beginning to build relationship/romantic skills with girls. By the time he's 21, it would become more like Good Crappy Job Going Somewhere Good Car o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:58 PM
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Is the man a moron? That's really the question here. All you have to do is agree men are sheeple morons who will believe anything they're told if it means they get to be lazy. You have to agree men are irrational, socially retarded, and stupid to boot. If a man told me I was fine, I'd know he means I'm not his cup of tea and doesn't find me hot. And if I had a weight issue, I'd 100% know that's the problem. Why is a man believing a woman who turned him down thinks he's fine? IS HE A MORON? Is he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:40 PM
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You need to do both. You're supposed to have it all and enough time for it all. And this really isn't that much of an ask being honest. I made money, went to school, helped with my family stuff, and had time to date/socialize. You're working on everything at the same time. You cannot work a lot on one thing and then turn around once that quest is complete especially with socializing. There's no starting socializing at 35. You're fucked at that point (for the most part, miracles happen, don't giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:30 PM
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Most women do not fail it, not even a lot. And no, we do not deny that men need to be attractive. We're shocked, sometimes offended, and often amused men think this even needs to be stated. No man ever has to tell a woman she should try to look pretty, we fucking know. What we cannot figure out is why men think this needs to be said to them. And that the fact it does need stating isn't also somehow y'all failing the intellect, reason, and brain test. You guys know it exists, you just don't like …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:31 PM
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I think you're somehow missing me at this point. Women not wanting to see a bare ass doesn't imply we're less horny. Put a man in a three piece well tailored suit and it's the same as a woman having her ass out. We get our asses out more often, men almost never dress sleekly or stylishly which is what provokes more attraction from women. Women know how to highlight our assets, men don't even think they should have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:25 PM
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They could do all of those things and they would still fail to attract women because they wouldn't have interpersonal skills for women, charisma for women, or relationship abilities that please women. We know, there's lots of very successful financially men here every day complaining no woman wants them. It's not a surprise, you cannot talk to her, why would she want you. You're a good looking bank account, not personable or charming. Yes, all of those things are good, but without the cornerston…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:23 PM
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I disagree. Men are living in a world where they don't know what it is like not to have women trying to turn them on. And when women do dress more for themselves or the female gaze, men are enraged and malign them and talk about how unattractive they are...it's almost a cardinal sin in their world for a woman not to dress in a way they like because it shuts down them being horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:20 PM
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Most of these men were tested, they failed the occular pat down. They provoked no attraction or interest. That is a test. The fact y'all ignore that test is to your own peril. And then you pretend you've been unfairly judged. You were measured as all are. The fact you think your hidden beautiful soul should be included is showing that your minds are feeble as well. Only men think they should be able to be unremarkable to look at and she should still give him a chance. It's totally irrational and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:18 PM
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This is just pure autism, I'm sorry. Hot men are not bad or newly hot. Lots of hot men are good people who just so happen to be lookers. I would hazard to say most aren't players or newly arrived to town. They're just hot. Hot is not a moral or character statement. That's not how people work. Lots of hot dudes are looking for the one, not any old broad. People aren't markets nor are interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:12 PM
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I don't think we're less horny persay, I think most men aren't doing much of anything to turn women on or be attractive to them while women are constantly turning men on and making efforts to be more attractive. Like, am I less horny, or are none of you trying is the feeling I think most women have. Men don't dress in ways women like, they don't groom themselves, clean themselves, put on nice smells, pose in ways we like, talk in ways we like, etc. I found a man who does and I'm all over him lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:10 PM
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Oh for sure, I don't really think almost any of these unfortunate men would change agreeably and usefully in that month's time. If they were capable of true and genuine change, they wouldn't be in the desperate state they're in. No amount of angelic chance would change this. Yeah, I can agree, safety measures were an element I didn't cover because the post was long enough already and the suggestion of a "shock collar" struck me as even more outlandish than I'd already gotten and would make it se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:08 PM
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I am not shocked you would. I think most men that cannot hack it and are desperately hoping a woman will save them would like my plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:06 PM
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What you said. I don't even think there's a real problem, however, if I'm forced to pretend there is, what could prompt women to consider dating men they aren't really attracted to........well, I think I more or less figured that out. They'd have to have complete control of the sexual end and the ability to treat the man like a fixer upper house that they can dominate into becoming a more attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:06 PM
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I'm not unfortunate and I no longer date unfortunate men. He's not a dream for me. This is a solution for men who are not dream men and never would be. I wasn't given anything, I was asked to theorize how to help the lowest and grossest among us. And my answer was basically: they cannot behave like men who have a lot to offer, they'd have to subject themselves a draconian system men with actual value do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:05 PM
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Yes, all hot men bad. Go for mediocre man and hope you can fix him good. All hot men players. All unfortunate men saints. God I hope your daughter will have a mother more sensible than this. No, I was asked to propose a ridiculous solution for a problem which barely exists. So I managed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:03 PM
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No. I don't. I think for many that point never arrives and I also think relationships and socializing are a skill that must be consistently worked on from birth until death with those first 30 years representing the most vital times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:01 PM
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I think I agree, but I also think many men are deluding themselves about how female attraction works. I also think, again, this entire premise is how do we help the unfortunate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:00 PM
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Oh, I agree. I'm not interested in try outs either. But, I'm not unfortunate, and I'm guessing you may not be either by your tone. Most of the complaining is coming from people who are unfortunate in some way or another that is drastic enough that they cannot attract others. So...yeah, this is how I'd solve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:31 PM
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I considered that element, but I'm not against rekindled flames, I think sometimes (especially young people) have to break up to make it work long-term. They need to know life without each other. It's rare, but it happens. I do agree, some feedback mechanism for both people that is somehow likely to yield honest response would be good. I just think a cooling off period prior may help so that it isn't coming from a place of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:30 PM
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I don't disagree in case that's not obvious. But, if the unfortunate are asking for women to yield some of their power over attraction and dating, I would say the only way that would ever in a million years happen, is if men yield their power and drive towards sex sex sex and refusal to make themselves more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:23 PM
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I don't think almost any man on earth would ever agree to this and I'm not convinced they should
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:21 PM
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Literally, no one is complaining about men who go abroad and happen to meet their wife there or who move to another country they like better and meet a woman there. That isn't what a passport bro is and to present these things as the same is disingenuous. Some of my closest friends are married to women they met while serving abroad in the military. They weren't a "passport bro", they were a soldier off-duty who met a girl in a bar, fell hard, got married, and had kids. It's a beautiful thing and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:17 PM
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Just being honest, there isn't anything here. I'm on this sub because I'm bored and I think red/black pill men essentially need to be saved from themselves before they harm others (red pill) or themselves (black pill). Women don't have some net dating market benefit that is somehow so lopsided or unfair that they need to give up power to change the dynamic. The dynamic works for the vast majority of people. If it isn't working for you, it probably could if you're willing to change something (not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:12 PM
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I've never hooked up and I've only fucked one man. Outside of that, I don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:21 AM
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Sex work and abuse are inherently connected, I reject your premise sex work is abuse. Not all jobs are abuse, in fact, most aren't, in fact, I struggle to think of another job which is abusive. I'm curious if you can outline for me the abuse of other jobs. Other jobs have abusive people in them, they may have abuses of power in them, but the activity itself is not abuse. The activity of sex work (coercion based sex) is abuse. And don't even try some commie line of reasoning of no one wants to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:20 AM
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I feel like your third sentence is you agreeing women look better than men, but with the caveat of it being all brought about by money and effort...which isn't the gotcha it sounds like when you realize most women regularly complain men aren't putting effort into their appearances and advise struggling men to put effort into their appearances. It's kind of like saying women aren't really hotter than men...they just work out more and eat better...like yeah...so...functionally we're hotter? We wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:27 AM
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1000% agree except for the line about matriarchy and about this being a blue piller/ feminist thing. I personally think everyone is lonely for their own individual reasons, yes, even people in happy relationships. Men and women. Women may at times seem to do slightly better on certain very social metrics which are not about loneliness. That's about it. If we measured how lonely a person was based on how much they earned, suddenly men would be social and thriving while women were the unsociable l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:49 PM
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Men hang out because it's extremely difficult and unsatisfying to play most sports alone and you tend to win at call of duty a lot more as a coherent team than by playing the sorting mechanism. And because trying to get chicks is easier group to group. Also, nice try to save, but you said women get together to gossip for hours. Your characterization of women's intimacy was gossip. You characterized men's stronger non-intimacy as doing activities. I don't think you should be surprised I'm simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:37 PM
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No, she's not. She's being a very typical type of human especially in women - a people pleaser/ anxious avoidant fearful. This isn't weird at all. It's super fucking common. Non-verbal communication is the majority of communication and it is immature to think verbal communication trumps it and means you don't have to engage your deciphering of non-verbal skills. You absolutely always will have to, there's no way out. The dialogue tree isn't real. *** Not at all, it means you failed to read all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:26 PM
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Every verbal communication includes body language and it's literally how we as a complicated species communicate realistically. Verbalization is actually the minority of communication and the least reliable source, not the other way around. And if you end up in jail, I would wager it's because you were impatient and let your dick do the thinking, rather than waiting for a 100% and entirely clear and absolute consent. Stop trying to get grey area sex and you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:22 PM
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Then I would recommend you wait until she's 100% certain. I think a problem a lot of men are dancing around saying is that they worry about waiting to that point because they may get less sex or no sex if she makes up her mind the way they don't want. In other words, you guys are kind of cool with grey area she's not really made her mind up sex. I think you should fear that, I think it's ok for you to fear that. You shouldn't be fucking women who are 100% in. As I've already pointed out elsewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:20 PM
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What would your proposal be? Because mine is that men learn to utilize both to their advantage without entirely relying upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:16 PM
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Most rape isn't miscommunication. Chat GPT you're drunk, go home. Personally, I think our justice system is fine, it just needs to look the other way about vigilante justice a little bit more. Just a lil more. A lil, oh whoopsie, the rapist got beaten to death, and he seemed so innocent too. WHOOPS and we totally mishandled evidence collection. Guess we'll never know what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:09 PM
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It turns out, I do things with my female friends besides talk, weird, I know, strange even, sometimes we both do things and talk. I also love that any time women talk together it is gossip. That's not sexism or anything tho, is it. Also, don't call your friendships stronger, they don't matter to you and you don't really care about those people, that's why you get over fights so easily. Also, those fights were usually just pissing contests between men who don't like each other much run amok. So a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:07 PM
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I would have said no sex until you meet someone important in their life whether that's friends or family or one friend or one family. I don't really care where this lands politically, after all, I think most of us agree that the way things are going isn't effective for most people. MY way was effective for me and I think would be for a lot of people who are seeking a LTR with pleasant sex. I disagee, I think they just don't feel allowed to ask for what they want or aware of what would really ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:13 PM
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If that's the case, then yeah, that would be the case. Honestly, I think having sex in that amount of time is still pretty short, just being honest without a prior relationship of some kind (friends/shared community). I don't see any problems with this. You're just introducing someone and displaying you'd be associated with them which greatly reduces the chances it's only about getting your willy touched. Frankly, my genuine advice about sex runs even deeper than this, this is an entry level bou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:58 PM
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I genuinely do not want this for most men, but men who talk like this should absolutely be pegged and forced to suck a dildo so they can genuinely appreciate what they're asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:25 PM
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Honestly, I considered responding, but you're closed off and not behaving reasonably and are in your feelings and insulting, so why bother. You've got two women, I'm sure that's more than enough. Enjoy your day. P.s. hope things work out in your sexless future marriage. I remember you from the past. Guess things are opened up now because you couldn't get it going with the first girl? All that overt communication sure does seem to do wonders in your bedroom, right? You're in the position to lectu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:09 PM
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I can agree it isn't always clear...that's ok, right. If you're uncertain, keep flirting, keep talking, keep hanging out, and keep looking for what would count as clear to you or you guys aren't compatible and back to the drawing board. Uncertainty does not in any way indicate that verbalization would be best. As I pointed out to someone else who much like me is aware non-verbal communication is actually the majority of communication. Say you asked for a kiss and she says yes. How do you know fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:58 PM
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I know. I'm well aware of that. I'm aware that non-verbal communication in fact is what chiefly is being used to determine verbal communication. For example, if he says, I wanna dress up like a mindflayer and have you fuck the octopus head I got from the grocer, her saying "yes" would not be the most relevant information. Her tone, her expression, and other non-verbals are what would tell him if she's into that idea or not. And if he's just someone that hears "yes" and assumes that means yes, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:51 PM
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He totally fair, I'm not against that option either. I don't need it as much, but if you do, by all means have a squint.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:45 PM
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Thank you. I do actually feel for this men, it's easier for me to now that I'm on the other side of it and am not constantly having to sort through them looking for someone who wasn't addled by porn and placing scary and horrific expectations on me. It wasn't so easy before because of the frustration and feeling of, "if one more man thinks my virgin ass is gonna fuck him or blow him while getting slapped and choked, I may just tie him up and beat him with a newspaper". But now it's just like, oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:18 PM
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Probably because you know a thing or two about a beej and this guy just watches them in porn and somehow overlooks the tears, gagging, and fact the women are drugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:03 PM
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Nothing wrong doesn't make something enjoyable or right, dude. Can you hear how you put that? Nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. If I told you there'd be nothing wrong, you'd know that doesn't mean anything would be enjoyable, mutual, or fun. Nothing wrong does not mean right or fun or something I want to participate in. There's nothing wrong with a football game persay, but I don't go to them because there's nothing right about them. And if a man wanted me to regularly attend football games, I'd be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:02 PM
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Oral sex is the sex I came around to with time and with a man I trusted who wasn't pressuring me for anything, didn't think that because I was trying something it was a good time to go full on, and had already shown he was gentle, pleased to be there, and willing to go with the flow and see where it went. I too suspect that would come about naturally with time. I would be shocked if it was something that was just instantly on the menu or quickly on the menu. But I do think that's probably by far…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:56 PM
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If you feel it's shitty, that's fine, right. You aren't compatible, which is good to know so you can move on. Personally, I get a lot from non-verbal communication and find it more honest and accurate than verbal because it places less pressure and people are more likely to feel comfortable resisting if that's what they want to do. *** She could, sure, but context clues are a thing. If you're standing on her porch/doorstep after a good date and she's about to leave/the date is ending and she's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:02 PM
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I don't know if this is a female only ability, but I can feel when someone is close to my space (I mean really close) especially if they're kissing me or close to kissing me. Usually I can hear them, sense them near me, feel them breathing, smell them, etc. My eyes are just one of my senses and I can do without them for the kissing or seeing if someone wants to kiss me bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:48 PM
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I'm going to assume good intent from you. Please don't break my heart. This is a chicken or the egg thing, but, I would say with it being pretty obvious which way things go. Do men want blow jobs, alt sex, or other acts organically or because they saw it in porn and now that has raised their standards for bare minimum fun in the bedroom? Are their girlfriends really not enthusiastic, not open, not adventurous, or laying down too much or does a man think this because he's watched porn and he's re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:42 PM
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Yes, we are. Goo, goo, gah, gah, brain no work, wah wah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:12 PM
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I thought about reading this, but I stopped after you told me you know lots of women who enjoy being bear hugged....which would make it not a duty bear hug, right? Their enjoyment and glee and expression of that is an action as would any wiggling or sinking into the hug they do. The fact they don't "hug back" with their arms does not mean they aren't hugging back, emotionally, verbally, and yes, often even physically in the sense of sinking into it and wiggling into it. In other words, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:07 PM
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I don't think anyone is really saying this. What we're usually saying is: If you cannot find a relationship currently, then learn to be joyful in what you do have while pursuing what you want. There's no need to be miserable in order to find a relationship, in fact, it is usually likely to stop you finding someone because misery is not a good vibe. And you can in fact be joyful in the present while lusting for the future. If you cannot really ever likely find a relationship (this is true of very…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:03 PM
5

Ew, big brother shit is never the answer. Love you, stranger, but let's not go down that path if we can help it. We're already trying lower levels (are we dating the same x) and I don't think it has been going so well. It also doesn't really allow for well, redemption, which happens a lot more regularly than most people here give credit for. A lot of fuckbois and fuckgirls are young people who are trying things, making mistakes, and yes, grifting, but are very likely to grow up and change their …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:58 PM
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Non-verbal communication is communication. If a woman is making eye contact with you and then your lips and getting really really close to you in a somewhat secluded area, she probably wants to kiss you and in order to confirm this, you could close your eyes and lean in really slow and see if she closes the distance or lets you close the distance. Would asking work. It really depends on the woman and the asking. Confidently stating you really want to kiss her, probably hot. Saying let's kiss, gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:45 PM
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No, ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:34 PM
2

Who does that hug work for? Not the person "allowing themselves to be hugged". Like, mate, this just isn't how fucking hugs work. It's not a hug if I don't hug you back, it's a begrudging grapple. Hugs are mutual. Sex is mutual. It's not a hug or sex if we aren't reciprocating. No., it doesn't work if a pursuer is not being given attention back. Unless you're fucking crazy and don't care about the object of your attention's feelings and simply see "non-resistance" as "good enough". Broski, if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:32 PM
2

Lmao. I'd probably go with Luke then, although I don't remember much about him from past posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:22 PM
6

Tyson, but I'm not fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:13 PM
2

I've already told and pointed out it doesn't work...yet you keep insisting it does work. Pursuing requires reciprocation. It's not initiator/ receiver. It's attention getting and attention providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:12 PM
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I tried duty sex once, never again. Only a man would pretend a woman is coming from this and that it isn't painful, degrading, and maximally unpleasant. It turns out, vaginas don't always just get wet or expand when their owners aren't into it. Our arousal and desire is just as important as a man's, the fact a man could feasibly rape us despite that well, women can rape a man who is soft too. And it would be just as unpleasant for y'all to be getting mashed while soft by a pussy. And this is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:08 AM
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They ask for a definition of unattractive and then are upset when I include unattractive looks as a part of things. Make it make sense bro. I'm not a woman that says looks don't matter, I'm a woman that says they aren't the only thing that matters. I down-talk bad things which are either evil or useless regularly. I do have moral superiority, I don't lie and use others and I don't blame them for everything wrong in my life while only considering nefarious solutions. I don't think I'm better than…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:28 AM
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It would depend heavily on the toxic belief in question... I think a good start may be not labeling their beliefs toxic. And I'm not just saying that...I feel like a toxic belief is either baseless or greatly over-stated...not a lot of the shit I hear women complaining about on the topic of men fits that dynamic. Most of us lack faith in men, take tragically realistic approaches to them, and at worst is bordering on the cynical. If you mean what can you individually do? Love the women in your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:24 AM
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You'd push him out of the car on a road trip after deciding to play the quiet game... because he's that boring and looking at him makes you sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:16 AM
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When I'm not here arguing, I don't think of y'all at all. I assume most of you are creepy lil mouth breathing polo shirt wearing losers gawking at me across the street never likely to work up the nerve to try to neg me. Men as a whole play games and lie to get sex. Pretending this is a pill thing is silly. This is what men who can't sink it fair and square have always done. Men ruined the concept of men for women leaving us to seek a needle in a hay stack. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:15 AM
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I don't strongly care about the gender of the humans talking, but I admit when shit like this gets said, I appreciate there are other women here to be like: I've never been in a harem or a soft harem or whatever other shit you're all on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:06 AM
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Are the vast harems in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:32 PM
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I'm not just saying this, I've never met this woman or even heard about her. And I'm not saying women aren't deceitful or capable of deception or pulling shit on guys that's manipulative and wrong in other ways. I've just legit never met a woman who was being ambiguous about seeing a man as a friend or romantic target. And I've never seen any playing multiple men with no intention to date any of them. This just feels made up...or does it like only happen in Miami or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:55 PM
1

I'm not sure honestly. I assumed by number 3 it had to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:19 AM
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Erotica isn't porn, like, I'm sorry. I know men wish they were basically the same thing, but no one is being human trafficked or exploited to create 50 shades of grey. No one has to be drugged to pretend to enjoy it. It's not one of the most damaging and exploitative to all involved industries known to man. I never said women don't enjoy sex or sex-related content, I said they don't like porn, and that's true. Erotica isn't porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:19 AM
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I think it does, but not in ways more significant than say hollywood already does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:17 AM
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The flaw in this reasoning is that it doesn't really matter if there's a wide range of content if none of it is appealing or desirable to women, right? Kind of like there being a wide range of meat doesn't matter to a vegan because they don't like the pie chart period. Most women don't like any porn content, doesn't matter if it's angel baby soft or the hardest of hardcore most depraved shit imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:33 PM
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Not always, for certain, for certain. I agree. I do think often if you're being rejected by most social systems or are surrounded by a lot of fellow rejects, there's a good chance you're quite incompetent in certain ways that are damaging to others. But no, I do agree, women's judgement isn't god. I think women are more often taking our cues from how men treat each other and how they're perceived by the collective. We're seeking men who are either the leader of men or the trusted subordinate wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:28 PM
2

Let's assume you're right to some meager extent, because I think you are. In my experience, and it seems a lot of people's and many psychologists, attainment of good community standing (social status) has many paths to it and many paths to losing it. Broadly speaking, the highest social status man is competent, well-liked, respected, and generous (let's say this is a leader of men). He usually has several other high status subordinates who are competent, well-liked, respected, generous, and loya…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:39 PM
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I don't think you understand conditional love. I don't think you understand the ways in which a relationship is and is not transactional, but put bluntly, if my relationship were purely transactional, I would leave it. I would never engage in a relationship with a man based on transaction. Relationships of transaction hold no charm or necessity to me. I have a job to avoid such relationships outside the professional setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:24 PM
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Nothing to do with the concept of porn sick Nothing to do with the concept of porn sick. Nothing to do with the concept of porn sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:22 PM
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I don't think any of these are reasonable, personally speaking. I get if a man is really head over heels, he's gonna try to make it an adventure or super memorable, but if he doesn't really know you, that's not gonna be the case. Dinner, coffee, a movie, a picnic are all perfectly acceptable and relaxing, but fun dates. I don't think women without children are reasonable to be asking for a trip to the moon, so I'm not sure why you having another man's kid suddenly ups what is a fair ask. Your ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:20 PM
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I dunno about all this. I think if you argued for taking away or heavily regulating most opportunities for addictive escapism (video games, porn, drugs, social media), I'd agree with that premise. I may even agree an emphasis on learning "when in Rome" style socializing. What I'm not convinced of is that people need to squash their freak flag or learn to hide it, so much as presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:32 AM
1

I think you greatly under estimate women's aversion to fucking men we aren't attracted to and our capacity to industrialize for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:25 AM
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Is it possible that in pushing back on them and greater resentment you would have sought more social opportunities in an attempt to flee them and gained the social savvy which can come from fighting with one's parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:21 AM
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It's fine and ok for men. I promote it. Can I go home now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:22 PM
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I entirely agree. And it is what I find so fucking tiresome about the manosphere and deplorable. They refuse to take any real actionable steps to save other men/boys and themselves. You want to actionably improve the world: Never walk out on your kids for any reason. Fight tooth and nail to stay in their lives, I understand the justice system can sometimes make this quite difficult and unfair, we'll get to that, but for now, you take every grain of stand, every inch, ever mm if that's what it ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:21 PM
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They said all men. There was a period. There was no us acting like alpha dogs would be cool to be in the woods with. We fear all men regardless of attractiveness as potential assailants. Stop twisting this. It is just different, it isn't unfair. Why on earth should women treat someone with nothing they want and no discernable value beyond some mushy gushy "we're all just humans on a planet" the same as they treat someone they want and with discernable value beyond mushy gushyness? There is no do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:03 PM
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Oh for sure, but I'm not convinced it would regularly come up in a way that left the inside of my brain for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 AM
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Doggy is so far from a basic sex position that much like a bj, men complain women don't do it. And oh boy, do they? And sex is all about men and their comfort, especially since it's known to be so difficult to cum as a man...do you think this stuff through? Who said anything about that. Something can be unwanted, degrading, unlikely, and hugely gross without being freak shit. Again, if it's so normal and most women are so excited to suck dick, why are men constantly trying to get it from them mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:42 AM
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Sure, it happens. It's the mouth breathing disheveled guy against the wall who spends the whole evening staring at you without making any real facial expressions or breaking eye contact. Or it's the guy who went after your friend and was a weirdo and she told you about it. He never went after you, but now you know he's a creepo. I think it's more rare, certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:39 AM
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I think you misunderstand a double standard. A double standard isn't just different treatment, it has to be unfair that the treatment be different. Per example, I'd hope you wouldn't say it's unfair that I don't treat say my younger and older siblings the same. Because it isn't. They're different, the difference in their treatment is based on this relevant difference and not unfair. Unfair would be if I treated one young sibling differently than the other despite because say one is Belgian and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:37 AM
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No, no, and God no. Especially with zero foreplay. That hurts. Badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:31 AM
5

A poet in our midst.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:30 AM
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Even if we leave aside the generically violent and degrading sex that rules porn, and no, I don't mean rape porn. Most generic porn is being done on drugged women. So the porn you mentioned you see as so harmless and generic...that. I'll spoil the plot, most women don't want to suck your dick, especially, especially not at first. And if they do it, they aren't enjoying it, especially not at first. If you think that's normal, you've watched porn. Because it isn't. Frankly, a significant portion d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 AM
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You mean like monetarily? I've probably sunk many thousands of dollars into feeding him. If you mean a one off, I gifted him money for about a third of a quad. I argued with an ebay Indian customer support for two hours to get him a refund that was sizable. If you mean thoughtfulness, I contracted an etey artist to do a highly specific piece and then had it printed as wall art for his birthday. A lady never kisses and tells. I dunno. Hillary Clinton didn't kill her husband, that was pretty cash …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:02 AM
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Nah, I think such ramblings are the bitter echoes of men that seem to not realize a cornerstone of being creepy is being unwanted and pursuing anyway. They're telling on themselves really. "If I were hotter my behavior would be ok". Yes, well, you're not, and you know it, so that would make your behavior...creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:57 AM
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And, I think you know very well what I mean, playing dumb is tedious. Men know what porn sex is, they watch it all the time and then pretend it's genuine. All while knowing the woman is usually drugged and on pain killers to deal with the supposedly fun good good time she's having. But it's hot right, drugged women in pain getting fucked and ppretending they enjoy it. That's hot. Real female pleasure that doesn't require drugs or painkillers is...well boring right? Who would want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:55 AM
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I think an awful lot of it is objective and most men would agree if you described your creepy experiences and they're about another man. I'm sure some are subjective. But it really is as simple as going home to a messy house with kids. The kids never did it, yet you know it was clean and your husband didn't throw Legos everywhere. You know the kids did it, but getting them to admit it is nearly impossible. Same with dudes being creepy. They never did it. But the house is messy. But they'll gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:10 AM
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There's a difference between watches porn and thinks sex is like in porn or that doing porn sex is gonna go down well with women, sir. Support human trafficking and exploitation if you must, but when you try the shit you see done to them on us or indicate you think that's hot, don't be surprised if the woman are nexting you before you even hold a bare titty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:06 AM
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Me too. Stray cats are the worst. All the clucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:03 AM
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I think, you're assuming most women aren't turned off by porn style sex (ESPECIALLY as a starting point/ entry level) and don't sense this sort of thing well before the sex even happens and during the sex. (Especially the kind of women who have self-respect and would fall under the "good woman" category). Speaking for myself, I've always been good at sniffing out "his idea of sex is porn" and avoiding those dudes without ever having to fuck them, and in most cases even make physical contact. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:07 PM
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It's so much simpler than this: most people want to date someone of a similar age, life experience, and social existence as them. Most men are not walking around like puffy irritated chickens going, "I'm a 35 year old high value man, I only date women who are 10 years younger, way more fertile and youthful, no used up 35 year old bags". This just isn't life. If you think it is, that's because you're walking around like a puffy irritated chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:49 PM
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Think of it like this. There is no part of me nor expectation in me that a woman would be an enjoyable experience. It isn't going to sully any other experiences or leave me with any trauma that is likely to be easily triggered or repeated beyond the basic loss of agency. It's a one off bad thing that I'd have to get through. This coupled with the fact female anatomy on female is not invasive nor naturally brutalizing makes for an entirely gross and unwelcome experience, but not so traumatizing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:44 PM
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No. I find the male body and general series of actions it takes invasive, degrading, and dangerous and likely painful when it is unwanted. This is in at least some part because a man could be a desirable experience. A woman couldn't, and this combined with differing bodies, actions, dangerous, and less invasive and degrading style, makes it less shocking and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:16 PM
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No. I find some men very sexually appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:12 PM
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No. I don't marry with prenups. I don't plan to fail on this and I won't marry assuming that he is a bad person or I am. Currently, I stand to have a greater inheritance because my family makes way more and takes better care of our assets. Financially speaking everyone in his family is massive fuck ups. His earnings are higher, but when I finish school we'll be equals with me having likely greater benefits and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:41 AM
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I'm not seeing a bad thing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:38 AM
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I was sort of getting at that, but I don't think it's technically about men being non gratifying and disgusting so much as the unwanted component. Most of us would prefer to experience an unwanted experience of a woman over an unwanted man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:33 AM
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I don't, I view most men as inherently unappealing sexually. And I ponder that may be at the root of the concepts outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:30 AM
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Are you arguing that fathers shouldn't abandon their children because I agree? Or are you arguing that we need more male teachers, because I also agree to that? If your goal is just to rag on single mothers which there are way more of than single fathers and typically caused by men not being in their children's lives because they don't take accountability for their actions like mothers do....I mean gottem? Of course, a lot of the studies therein are quite flawed, but let's pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:28 PM
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Are incels not a part of the manosphere in your mind, because this was a pretty consistent post I saw regularly from many different users across many different forums...I don't think they were just being edgy. And if they're just being edgy, so are feminists who are writing articles designed to get clicks and offend people like you? Either what is written can be taken as real or it can't. But this rules for thee and not for me thing...kind of well...feminist of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:26 PM
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Yes, I think there's a bit of a self-own in there, but in a long-con sort of way. As in, it is a part of the water they're swimming in that so often explains why certain men are struggling with relationships. But also, no, I think the idea is that women are objects and men are agents. And agency is a dirty business. The reason women are seen in the way you outline is that there's this somewhat pervasive idea that women aren't choosing the man or choosing the sex, they're just wide eyed innocents…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:24 PM
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I would generally disagree with you. It is manosphere types making apologies for female teachers who rape their little boy students. It is manosphere types making apologies for going after "jailbait". It's manosphere types trying to reduce the consent age. It's manosphere types trying to go after barely legal pussy. I suppose if you purposefully focus on some legal age limitation, you barely have a point. But if you're considering the spirit of not sullying innocence or predating upon the ignora…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:09 PM
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I mean, in my experience, it's usually my fault for not communicating earlier that I need more of something and his fault for moving too fast and then getting too excited and blowing his load without checking in. I might add a little more to his side because it doesn't usually go over super well to communicate that the penis wasn't enough in this case so who is gonna tell you that if you don't take the info well. To be clear, this is with you having removed being tired, stressed, etc. certain pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:58 PM
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Yeah, this was my thoughts as well. You've got a dude with a huge honker, a dude who is slightly below average, but I doubt discernably so, and a dude with a literal micropenis. Who cares about the first two and the last dude has a literal malformation that he's likely to be quite upset and obsessed about (and who can blame him).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:50 PM
5

I'd appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:49 PM
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Yeah, the article described the body as "looking like spaghetti". I dunno, again, sick minds attract sick minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:48 PM
7

He's still overweight and a bore. I'm glad he no longer has rage issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:29 PM
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I legit thought this was gonna be about Deadpool...and I'm like it's Ryan Reynolds playing the merc with a mouth. Whats not to like. But apparently it's some serial killer. I dunno, sick minds attract sick minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:22 PM
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None. Michael is a dipshit. So much wrong, where to even start. Luke is overweight with little good relationship experience which just means baggage for me to deal with, and no real interests or hobbies to speak of. Nathan has no relationship experience and thus even worse baggage which is then doubled down on by a micropenis. They all suck too much to pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:20 PM
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Assuming it's during daylight in a crowded place....2 maybe 3? If not, 1. I'm just not interested in strangers approaching me for romance. It's just a waste of my time and attention that puts me on alert.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:49 AM
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Speaking personally, Because I generally have found people whom occupy your position to be romantic idealists ill equipped to deal with the harsher realities of life. And that's if you're a true believer which is as admirable as it is tiresome to live next to and try to have a relationship with, let alone a family. More often, I've found men who speak as you do are either lazy or have a real case of sour grapes they're covering up with pretty words. The idea you cannot pursue the things you've m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:54 AM
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In my experience, there's also nothing you can say that they'll hear as a no, never. Men act like this is a lack of communication on our end. I've told every single one, "not if you were the last man on earth" and they still kept chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:46 AM
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I dunno, a man either smells good or bad to you. I can't explain it more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:39 AM
2

Bruh, I woulda burnt that diary on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:38 AM
2

No, he just rolled his eyes at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:37 AM
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I still live with my family so we more practice division of different labors with admittedly me and my mother doing the bulk of it and my mom doing way more than me: I take care of: Cleaning my bathroom 2. I clean the family fridge about 80%, my mother covers the other 20% Wash my own dishes or load them. Clean the counters after I cooked or sometimes when I find them too dirty to live. I do all my own laundry I change bedsheets monthly and towels weekly. I mop and dust my room about every 6 mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:48 PM
5

The crazy has many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:41 PM
7

Remember, those chores are so easy too that a housewife is being lazy to not want to do them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:30 PM
20

I've gotten passive aggressive remarks from my boyfriend's mother about her not getting Birthday, Christmas, and Valentine's gifts from him. That's how much people think it's normal for a girlfriend to run her boyfriend's life apparently. I'm supposed to be buying things for his mother from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:29 PM
0

Is sex involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:08 PM
0

I'd assume this has to be pretty situational, but in the case of my man, he'd know that's on him. I've gone to some pretty great distances and if I'm tapping out, it's because the two holes open for business and neck/back attached can't take it anymore. Sometimes the spirit is willing, but the sausage is being persnickety. I've had a similar experience with ye ole sheath. Sometimes you've done everything right and things just aren't going according to plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:05 AM
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If men think paying for a coffee or a dinner should entitle them to my pussy, they should look up what an escort actually costs. However, I'm fine with men trying to keep this sex on the first date standard while women expect men to pay. We'll see who gets their way first...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:59 AM
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You can eventually forage, etc. But not right after birthing usually. Its usually a minimum of a 1 and change before you'd be in that shape. And that's if it all went well. Also, we're the only animal species with young this helpless as far as I understand it and with birthing processed so dangerous. I can tell you I absolutely have taken this into account when considering men "father material". A lot of men don't pass muster on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:19 AM
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I'd be shocked they're arguing it. Most women wear diapers for a week or more after because they're dumping out so much blood still. And that's a good child birth. We're very weak and in need of care and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:16 AM
5

Competition of resources does not beget patriarchy. It possibly begets something like capitalism. Men will always compete to display themselves as a superior provider choice. What a superior provider choice looks like varies by age and circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:06 PM
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3. 1. 4. 2. 5. I wouldn't put up with any of them. Gun to my head, I put up with 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:02 PM
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I agree men can help more with child rearing. I don't think this will fix the bottleneck. Women are still very weak and injured post child birth unable to provide for themselves and in need of greater resources to heal. The infant is also more dependent on her body due to breastfeeding and a good deal of evidence which suggests the infant experiences the mother's body as their own for the first year or two of life. Birds forage food and digest it to feed their babies. Women lactate what feeds ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:59 PM
7

Can't change the hand your given in poker or penis size. Just gotta play what you're given to the best of your ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:54 PM
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When I had low self esteem, I dated unattractive men. I agree it is rarer. The reason is that low value unattractive men approach women less often
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:51 PM
2

It is wrong if you do so via deceit, lies, or exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:49 PM
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I don't think victims of human trafficking and exploitation are criminals. In your drugs analogy, they're the drugs, not the seller. Cocaine can't be a criminal. I don't. I say that sort of thing to piss people like you off for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:48 PM
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Immoral, unethical, and harmful to other people. It's not unethical to want anything, it's unethical to get those things using unethical means which is almost exclusively what is meant by compromising. It being sensible means fuck all to me. I've never been interested in if it is sensible to do evil things to achieve your ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:53 AM
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It should be illegal. Decriminalize it for the sex worker, criminalize it for the john. Give ample opportunities for the john to reduce his punishment by revealing any aspects if the process and network he's aware of. I think the punishment should be light jail time and a fee. The fee should be set aside to provide funding for getting sex workers out of the life and set up to interact outside of black market and as an incentive to reveal and testify about what they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:05 AM
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Compromise is an interesting word for exploiting foreign women. Compromise is an interesting word for chasing very young girls because you lived some arrested sexual development. Compromise is an exceedingly interesting word for chasing women with religious or cultural values you do not share. Compromise is a really interesting word for lying about your intentions to all of the above in order to get sexual experience to hopefully then move on. 5. Compromise is an interesting word to describe sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:55 AM
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Nah. It started with predatory men. Like. I'm sorry. There's just no excuse to be going after little girls. I don't care how wary women your own age are. And this claim that unless you're predatory you'll get nothing is just, I'm sorry, fucking lies and bullshit. If you can't get an inch without being a predator, read the writing on the wall. She doesn't want you. And if you have to be a predator to get her, do not pass go. Life isn't a binary between Itty bitty softy wofty boys and predators. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:49 AM
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I 100% agree. I think our struggles shape us for better and for worse. And a lot of successful people chose not to be stalled or bitter from them. And that often it just comes down to having to prove yourself. I think I did feel I had to prove myself in certain like physical ways that are weird to articulate, but I always knew what was good about me. And in turn, that meant I always kind of knew what was good about other people who had downsides they were working on. Yeah, they were sadly. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:03 PM
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Before you can really apprehend women and their experience and thus actions, you need to digest something a little hard to understand/get on a gut level for a lot of men, but here I go anyway: Our experience of male sexuality started as an experience of predatory male sexuality. And what I mean by that is not that all male sexuality is predatory, but that I literally mean our first experiences of male sexuality came from the extreme minority of men who are predatory. Don't think borderline misco…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:51 PM
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I agree you can move or remove your attention based on what does and doesn't serve your personal goals. What is inappropriate, is to do so in a manipulative manner and what I mean by that is not being transparent with the individuals in question why that attention is moving, what your expectations were/are, or your ultimate goals. Put easily, you need to communicate why you're doing what you're doing, not leaving room for interpretation. I think this dead-bedroom post is actually a really good e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:16 PM
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Yeah, tone. I'm saying mix in some flirt tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:11 PM
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Oh boy, we're talking about friends, dude. Yall are so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:33 PM
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I flirt with all my friends and half of them are of a gender I'm 100% not attracted to. Flirting is fun. It's wordplay, cleverness, complimenting, teasing, and all around a good time. It's a show and a posture to adopt and a character to play. There's no fucked up in it. I enjoy flirting, most people enjoy flirting, and most people enjoy being flirted with when it is done well. Why would I deprive myself and my friends of a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:34 AM
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No, but I think you'll be more open to lunatics, crazies, abusers, and predators if you aren't comfortable alone. And you're more likely to destroy the good thing you do get. But no, I think you can start dating and start looking for love while not truly being 100% terminator level comfortable alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:27 AM
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Love over time. When I met him initially he was with someone else and I'm not someone who naturally noticed taken men. It wasn't until 6 months later when he was single we even got to know each other. Until then, I was beyond indifferent to his existence. I didn't fall in love at first sight, I wasn't even convinced I fancied him for the first few months of us talking and being in the same community. What made me notice him like that: He was outrageously funny. He was so welcoming and kind to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:26 AM
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I like pretty dresses. Boobs need support or they hurt and are very sensitive to the elements and I don't like men staring. And i don't wanna look at penises or smell men farts. I know we're not equal. We're superior, that's why we get our own clothing, bathrooms, and melon holders and men get a gross hole to shit on each other in while their nips are cold and their clothing is boring and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:23 AM
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They don't from what I've seen. They just refuse to let ghouls say they deserve their abuse for daring to go after attractive qualities and overlooking bad ones. Men get to stick their dick in crazy, women get abused and told they deserved it because there was some nice bland jello waiting in the wings. Men are blamed for being the abusers. Are you not a fan of abusers being judged as the problem? There is no reliable system. Every system comes with downsides, flaws, and failures. Men are preten…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:20 AM
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They probably can, yeah. Would it surprise you some and even many women are more attuned detectors of trash than others? Is that entirely impossible? Even their perfect system isn't perfect, but some people got like a butter knife and some people have a ninja blender in their brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:17 AM
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I spent much of my childhood getting demolished at it 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:15 AM
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Gracias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:26 PM
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I've said it once, I'll say it again: be flirty friends, not platonic nothing there friends. You can flirt without going further and you can flirt while getting to know someone. Life isn't binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:48 PM
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More binary thinking. Let's break this down: Intuition is not some perfect measure and no women I know really claim that it is. It's just another line of defense. If you've played Stratego, it's more akin to the spy than say the marshal. If you've played magic the gathering, it's the ridiculous hail mary win condition which isn't the main thrust of the deck, but comes in handy and from behind sometimes to score. Now what is intuition really as far as I can tell. I think it's a summation of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:47 PM
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I think his argument that men were and are emotionally/socially reliant on women holds a lot of water. I'm not sure we should follow from this to say "and it should stay that way". If we've financially liberated women, it seems likely we can socially and emotionally liberate men. Now, if you're asking me in a "in the trenches right now" sort of way if I had a son would I say he's going to need a woman because of social/emotional reasons...yes, probably. I probably would advise him to marry based…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:38 PM
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It's not a conniption to want to protect a child from predation. Some of the problem with your analogy is that I see protecting children as a sacred duty of all of society, I do not see protecting men from false accusations or women from them as a sacred duty. You can protect yourself from false accusations without having to never hire a certain gender or creed. There are easy good measures that work to prevent that. If there were similar ones for children, I would engage with those. There's als…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:33 PM
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I think it made me stronger and better because it made me someone who doesn't enter rooms primed to compete with others and just saw the greatness and beauty in people and wanted to focus on that over whatever could be lesser or worse about them. And I think it taught me to treat people more based on their character. And ultimately, also, being lonely and isolated except for when women are mean to you, does make you stronger because you don't seek their approval in the way you might if you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:27 PM
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I think that one is tough because it has elements of both protection and dominance, but I think there's a really solid argument for powerful men (I mean Pence level) not to be alone with female colleagues. I don't think this means don't mentor or give them career advancement opportunities clearly, that would be inappropriate because you can do that while other people are in the room, but I do think that could be justified based on circumstances and ranks, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:20 PM
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I agree. However, the rule of law doesn't very clearly when the tires hit the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:51 PM
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It's justifiable on an individual basis more often (not always) and it's justifiable when it's done as a protective measure, not a dominating measure. The person who won't hire women or blacks isn't protecting anyone. The person who declares openly their hatred of men and introduces maxims designed to let fewer men into university isn't protecting anyone. The mom who won't let her daughter go over to a quasi random dad's house is protecting her daughter. Maybe some would say over protecting, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:49 PM
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Yeah, that's incredibly rare to happen in my experience. We don't usually pity for the record. At most light confusion will occur. But usually we get it, we just wouldn't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:44 PM
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I don't wonder. I'm just assuming it's not the good looks factor. And then based on my own values, that makes me wonder why she's with him. But as I originally stated, I know the emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:43 PM
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Consequences like what? Getting their way and getting what they want? The horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:59 AM
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I dunno about it going that far, but also, clearly, it did. I more meant if I thought black anyone was a big present danger to my kid, yeah, you ain't going over there alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:58 AM
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Not at all. The idea is something so vital to the operation of so many other systems that even when it defrauds, you basically cannot allow it to fail because that would be cascading failures. You cannot imprison the woman because who is gonna watch the kid? There's no one left if you take her away and the government isn't gonna soak even that extra amount of kiddos. You can't take her money because again, the kid and survival. It's the role too big to fail. We need mothers that much. I don't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:57 AM
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That's because you aren't applying the concept. The concept of too big to fail doesn't have to be applied on a national scale to make sense. I don't think it is happening on this wide a scale at all. I think, however, holding the woman accountable legally is an almost impossible proposition because the position of mother is too big to fail in this particular situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:30 AM
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You wanna be hot to their best friend too? Greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:28 AM
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Yeah, I was a very sheltered kid so my friends were the daughters of people my parents were friends with. So I just kind of assumed very innocently that so much of their treatment of me was just normal and how friendships work. And it wasn't until I made friends with equally pretty, fit, smart, and charming women in my mid 20s that I was like...wait...you don't like treat me badly at all? The heck. And suddenly so much of our 20+ years of friendship could be explained by that old axiom from Litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:27 AM
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Sure. A lot of people would be a racist to protect their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:19 AM
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Nice Try, FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:28 PM
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The only question really worth addressing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:28 PM
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I think very often a lot of the vulnerability (especially young) women are seeking is surrounding positive emotions. I'm going to be that girl, but a lot of us dating dude feel like we're in relationships best outlined by songs by Taylor Swift like "Tolerate It" or "Song Long London". The idea being a man we always feel isn't there, doesn't want to be there, gives us nothing for all that we pour at him, our best love is rarely if ever acknowledge or good enough. There's no joy from him to us. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:22 PM
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Oh, I figured that out as a rude awakening in the past 3 years for sure. It's part of what prompted my finding a new friend group of equal or prettier girls. It wasn't possible to adjust any further, sadly. And yeah, I wasn't in the opinion these girls were hot either. It's a very weird mental zone to try to explain to a man. Almost like, I don't get why either of these unattractive people are dating each other. Why date, etc. Yeah, I agree. That's sort of the ultimate reason I come down as sort…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:08 PM
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This holds out, I wouldn't have said a lot of my female friends were super pretty, and the ones who are do tend to be with men I'd say are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:56 PM
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I don't know. Many women don't see the advantage of caretaker capacity aspect unless you see the inherent expectation to constantly sacrifice yourself in a caretaker way for men and children in a way that implies your life and time is worth less than theirs as a positive. Put bluntly, you only see one as positive because grass is greener. And you cannot see how green the grass of rarely ever called upon defacto heroism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:55 PM
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For sure. Like, if you asked would I let my male best friend watch my kid: Yes. If you asked would I let several very good male friends I know some of whom are teachers watch my kid: Yes, absolutely. If you asked would I let a random male parent I knew in my community somewhat watch my kid: Heck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:54 PM
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I don't have to qualify them. They're my friend's boyfriends. I said I got why they chose them emotionally and so forth (personality), but attractiveness wise yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:52 PM
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I am discussing how men look, so their personality is irrelevant to the context here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:15 PM
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I have never called myself a feminist. I don't think men and women should be anything. I think they will be. I'm not big on shoulds outside of legal/professional situations. The law is one thing, people's social lives and interactions as a culture are another. People should be free as much as humanly possible without overt and obvious malevolent activity. The shoulds I may apply morally or ethically are not something I'd necessarily codify in law. As to your assertion this is favorable sexism to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:13 PM
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Some dangers are too high a cost for me to be able to consent to for my child, honestly. I agree with some of the thrust of what you're saying, of course, of course. I just don't think this is the realm where I'd be willing to budge exactly because the risk and cost is too high. I agree with your thinking about going to parties, sleeping over at certain houses in certain circumstances, walking to the library, or pizza place, or school, etc. But when the question is going for a play date where no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:04 PM
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I'd let my kid go play at a single mother's house that I knew from school. I wouldn't do the same for a single dad. I am a sexist, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:24 PM
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You raised them for 18 years...they cannot be a complete stranger. You raised them for any amount of time, they aren't a complete stranger. This is just hyperbole or silly thinking. *** You raised them, if you cannot see yourself in them, you didn't raise them very much. *** You cannot recoup the costs, that's a lie to yourself and one you should let go of. There's no shot to recover lost joy. Only to find joy in what was, is, and can be. You cannot unrape yourself and you cannot unraise a child…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:23 PM
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I wouldn't let my kid sleepover anywhere with a parent I didn't know period.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:20 PM
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Hey, no sorries. If that works for you, it works for you. I can say as a lady who is currently with a man very different from her exs, I'm not sure why you'd do that, but it's cool if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:02 PM
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Anytime, for you <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:00 PM
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I know. That's the point. There's this idea women all like the same men (see OP). We don't. Clearly. I wouldn't touch their men with a ten foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:41 PM
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Especially physically. I at least get emotionally or socially why my girlfriends often go for the dudes they do, but physically...ewwwwwww
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:21 PM
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At least, you can hopefully agree that I am not unempathetic inconsistently. I would argue I am empathetic, I just don't think understanding why someone would take an action is a reason to step aside and let them take that action when it is so detrimental and short-sighted for themselves and the child. We have different values, which is ok, but at least I would hope you can take away this isn't coming from a place of evil or hatred for men or a belief they are not victims. They are clearly victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:20 PM
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So, I would say based on your example, this is a tough reality to parse. Predators choose positions of authority/power that also have the veil of morality to them (teachers being a top example). Statistically speaking, men are more likely to predate in certain specific ways, and we aren't talking about most men, most men aren't predators, we're talking about predators who I'd personally dehumanize as being no more than rabid dogs that happen to have a willy. This then runs up against it being th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:10 PM
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Boy, they finally gave me a difficult one. God, they're all good and bad in their own way. Emil: I like a lot about him, his simple life, being easy going, middle class, etc. His height is just too much ultimately, I'm not even 5 feet and I assume any physical interactions could end with a ruptured spleen or broken ribs for me. I'd fret the dark past a little bit and the hanging out at bars. I wouldn't say I hard pass this dude, it's a soft pass, I could be prevailed upon. Theo: This is a pass, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:51 PM
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I don't wear heavy make-up, but all the women I know that do to the gym are going after work and there's no point in taking it off when the sweat will typically do that for you. Some I know that do it are very insecure about their skin at all times. Some that are wearing the waterproof kind have plans after and don't wanna go home to do their make-up after. (It usually requires a lot of tools, so it's not easy to do on the go). As for wearing revealing clothing, for me, it's about comfort largel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:39 PM
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I showed a lot of empathy for men here, I just didn't cosign them abandoning their children and I challenged them to be better than the unfair and evil circumstances handed to them. I would challenge a woman to do the same and have in the past in situations more real than the ones men here are wringing their hands over never happening to them. If you need an example, I've told women who were raped to keep their baby and love it. *** Not at all, a good friend challenges you to step up to being yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:35 PM
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I wasn't suggesting I see nothing to criticize or be concerned about in older male virgins. I've always been honest that I think it is an orange, and likely red flag after a certain age. I was saying that I don't see an issue with a dude who hasn't gotten as much as maybe he'd like marrying a girl who has probably got more than she bargained for. I don't mind looking bad. That's ok with me. They aren't experiencing sex. They're experiencing masturbation using another human. And I judge anyone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:31 PM
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Hello Old Friend, Yeah, I think that's a common problem to have for sure. I think in that case, I would have gone for a, "Hey, I know you're a busy lady, but I wondered if maybe you'd like to take a break one of these days to do (fill in date activity) with me?" It's not pushy to offer an opportunity for relaxation and fun with another human. If it helps in your brain-space, remember he's called a "gentleman caller". Part of being a gentleman is offering an opportunity of thrill, excitement, adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:28 PM
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Agreed. Share an experience. Feel like outsiders together. Enjoy a bizarre atmosphere. Pay very little money. When dating, you either wanna excited them with adventure or comfort them with nostalgic safety. Ethnic food v pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:59 AM
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You just described two predictable and largely stable systems that make observation and operation in them relatively easy. There is no equivalent in relationships. Religious types no more follow a code in their community than any other group. Trust me, I work for a religious community. They just cover their filth up and lie about it. Honestly, they may be worse than the normies. Trying to predict these dingbats isn't at all stable. Ok, well, I dunno what to tell you on that because you asked me …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:57 AM
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Infinite permutations is no more a religious claim than evolution which also takes as a cornerstone infinite permutations. I'm not saying our financial systems aren't complex, I'm saying they aren't as complex as one of the most complex, chaotic, and illogical yet often rational processes available. There's a reason most of our brilliant oligarchs can continue to make money and succeed in the market, but their relationships are a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:42 AM
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Depends on the fraud. Sometimes you get a bail out and only one peon does jail time. Maybe, that's how to think of this. Women in this situation are too big to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:34 AM
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I think it's just amusing world play.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:32 AM
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Yes, it clearly is. It's also largely useless on an individual scale because the complexity of the market value is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:31 AM
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Mine were pizza largely and a few coffee. I'm not really a fan of the coffee date personally since I don't really drink it and it feels so inorganic. I don't go to cafes and sit around like a French philosopher normally. I do normally eat dinner and sometimes at a sit down place. I know when I was younger and didn't realize coffee was code for a date, i turned a lot down from not liking cafes or coffee. Those dudes woulda had a different story if it had been a diner or pizza. And as I got older,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:29 AM
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I'm being honest. Don't explain with calculated money grubbing what can much more easily be explained with: Texas roadhouse has better tasting food and a nicer atmosphere than the maccas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:15 AM
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And we like food.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:14 AM
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Seriously. Most of my first dates were to a pizza place. We'd split a pizza and maybe wings if the vibes were already good. Nothing fancy, nothing crazy. Even today you could get that for like $30 bucks, maybe close to $40 with a tip and sodas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:12 AM
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Is it possible I'm the only woman who just likes food?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:09 AM
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Firstly, I have been on fast food, ice cream, and coffee dates. It's not that unusual. As a first date, not so much. My first date has somehow almost always been a pizza place, don't ask me how. Personally, I just like eating. It's a warm, companionable, family centric activity that just generally feels good. I do not wanna walk in the park with an unknown. That sounds atrocious to talk and walk and have no treat at any point. If I wanted to work out, I wouldn't do it as a date. The more fine di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:07 AM
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I'm fine that I lost you at facts over feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:34 PM
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Yeah, I think this perspective also sheds a lot of light on things, being honest. Like, now you as the biological kid know that's the only thing really holding you guys together. It's not the memories, the shared lifestyle, the choices and decisions, and relationship...it was you being his sperm blossom. You aren't gonna look at dad the same knowing that. Knowing how fragile that connection really is. And again, I get it. I think abandoning the kid is the choice of a sad, weak, and very human ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:32 PM
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That is his own kid. It may not be biologically his own kid, but that is his own kid. His denial of that doesn't change the facts. Don't make me find my ben shapiro memes. He had and has the opportunity to have biological children to raise. I wouldn't tell him to give up on that because of a hideously beastly monstrous witch. Again, go back to what I said about us not getting a choice in the massively fucked up situations that happen to us. The only choice we get is in how we rise to meet it or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:26 PM
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Hey, fair enough. I get that grind life doesn't leave a lot of room in it. I just, like many women, would go, you've got a few hours in there left and how you choose to spend it says what you value most, right? And that's cool and fine, I just don't have that respect for that compared to other avenues of stress relief/fun. Oh yeah, those are the worst. Dudes who tell me their favourite game is call of duty. Love um, wouldn't date um. Yeah, I mean, what she did is wrong, but I can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:39 PM
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Eh, you gotta remember women date who approaches...it seems likely teddy bear big guys tend to approach less because they feel less confident than fitbros. It is comparable. These dudes are both attractive archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:37 PM
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We don't always end up dating or falling in love with our type. As my close mentor would say, "I'm meant to be married to a spicy, low class dark haired bodacious tan Italian drama queen". He's married to a pleasant, but mild high class blonde willowy Irish/English woman who hasn't had drama or spiciness in her personality since the day she was born. And he loves her to bits and pieces, everything about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:23 PM
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I don't know you, so I can't say. What I can say, is that every dude I've met who identified as a gamer had the problems above in spades and that includes the gamers I've dated. And they are all generally unaware of it or think they're reasonable and not at all a problem. Which is fine of course, but it never shocks me that a significant portion of gamers cannot create or sustain a relationship, especially with other gamers. It also, therefore, doesn't shock me when women immediately see or hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:21 PM
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A lot aren't lying. I don't like the big teddy bear thing, but the women I know that do absolutely fucking tits out love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:12 PM
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Kind of, it's a lot of things. Like, I myself play games. When I've got nothing else I can do that I'd like to be doing. Usually a couple hours a week, a little more during the heatwave we've been having, but overall, it's my last choice for activities. So for him, I'd basically want the same thing, but beyond that, if we game together, I don't want to be dealing with a pissy shitty attitude towards me either for being better or worse than him at games. If we don't game together, I'm not interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:00 PM
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None of the above. What is this game lately, I don't get it. Dan: Has other kids. Immediate no way, Jose. Andrew: Not social, gamer, and is undersized in the basement. Each of these on their own would be a orange flag, but together, I'm passing. I'm sure he's a decent dude and some equally unsociable girl would love him greatly. I'm too social, have bad experiences with gamers, and I'm not interested in dealing with undersized dude insecurity stuff. Jason: Not good looking, micropenis, and never…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:15 PM
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I'm starting to wonder how much of Red Pill content exists because those men don't understand stepping stones or gradual improvement. A lot of men are deathly anxious to talk to women and see them as these dangerous sirens from the planet zorp zorp nylon in the jellyfish nebula with the mystical power over life, death, their manhood, and all future happiness. Creatures meant to lure them to an early grave, if they're lucky that speak the foreign language of epislonese. The stepping stone for tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:08 PM
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I can't impose anything, of course. Nor am I trying. This is a debate/discussion sub. I'm discussing it because I assume there's room for movement here. I think the question yesterday about what if you found out when the child was 18 was a really good one. Why? Because it cuts out the financial burden aspect entirely and gets right to the heart of an important aspect of the issue. Leave aside the mother. OF COURSE you should hate that lying, cheating, total fucking monster. Honestly, crucify her…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:50 PM
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I'm ready to die on this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:34 PM
1

No, just don't think his beard is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:29 AM
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Not in my experience of current day and age. I'm sure that was more true in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:19 AM
2

I concur. A good tasteful beard is plenty delightful. The moment you're braiding it or pony tailing it, I wanna vomit. Think Aragorn, not Gandalf, Gents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:19 AM
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I wouldn't say unpleasant, that's too strong. They're not as good looking as they could be is most accurate. It's not serving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:17 AM
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I think it's the same stuff for the most part. I dunno I think in general when I'm thinking pathetic, it's usually a stand in for something like, "childish, infantile, immature, incompetent" or other terms which suggest this human is unable to properly care for themselves or others. They seem to have no or low agency or any they do have is used in very selfish and petty ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:04 PM
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I love a nice short/medium beard. Delicious. Ten/ten. I despise very very long beards. Gross. Ew. Why. Clean shaven, it really depends on the dude. For some they're quite dashing, for others it just makes them look like a kid or their face can't carry that weight. It's like pulling your hair back in a really really tight bun for women. It puts all the stress on your face, so if you don't have a great face or a really defined face is a better way to put it, it's not great. Personally, my man look…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:02 PM
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As I argued, it does matter. If it is being caused by these outside factors, then correcting those outside factors would correct the pair bonding issue. Which there seems to be some level of truth in based not just on the data, but anecdotal evidence surrounding slutty people who settle down faithfully. Data is only so good as the phenomenon it can explain, articulate, and be followed with. Why do some people suddenly settle down and have good and faithful bonded relationships? Could it be that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:54 PM
2

I approach this from a few positions really. Firstly, I'm not someone who thinks pain is good to avoid generally speaking. Don't get me wrong, I take an aspirin for a headache like most, but bodily pain is either weakness leaving the body, a red alert something is wrong, or good data to know where you're at. And shutting it down is rarely intelligent to do because you're then shutting down the motivation to continue (weakness leaving the body), ignoring that something needs fix, or ignoring the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:48 PM
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It has tragic enough downsides that I wouldn't call it a privilege. Just like it's not a privilege to play a fighter or a wizard in dungeons and dragons. It's just a different playstyle with different upsides and different downsides. Grass always seems greener until you're having to step on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:33 PM
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I assume it's because you've heard and maybe slightly bought into the concept that if a woman with a past chooses to be with you, you aren't getting her best and she's just choosing you before the clock runs out. The reality is, there's no clock running out that can make the majority of women settle down with someone they aren't genuinely in love with and attracted to. I assume the other end of it is just mourning the fantasy of being able to live in the way you see women doing and feeling this …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:21 PM
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I see no issue in a woman who is able to obtain multiple sexual interactions without any form of duress in either direction eventually settling down with a man she loves and who loves her. I also see no issue with a dude who doesn't use prostitutes, but also fails to secure the sexual interactions he would prefer to be having. Casual sex and prostitutes are football fields apart, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:10 PM
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I mean, the science itself was not gendered. Anyone who is promiscuous shows signs of worse "pair-bonding". It was a myth forwarded by the red-pill this only applied to women. With that said, a question rarely asked is really a chicken or egg thing. Are people worse at pair bonding because of promiscuity or are people promiscuous because they're worse at pair-bonding. Kind of hard to say. We know from looking at other areas that typically being very sexual when young is typically a trauma respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:08 PM
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I haven't seen these women "settling" or giving "breadcrumb affection". They're just finally ready for that next step and seem to be very into the dudes they're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:01 PM
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You really can't is the issue on two fronts: The moment anyone knows, it's pretty likely the nature of your platonic relationships will change or cease to exist as people distance themselves from your clear descent into madness. Or, all of the conversations will become about their very real concern for you and your despair-bound insanity. And again, that's the people who love you. Most people will just abandon you for this kind of anti-social bizarreness. The moment you're stepping this deep int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:05 PM
2

I'm here at -6 for my man. And this list is deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:44 PM
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All the party girls I knew in my day are either married or engaged. A few are still living that lifestyle and want to as far as I can tell (we aren't close). It's pretty rare a woman who wants to commit cannot switch gears and get a dude she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:42 PM
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I have celebrity crushes and little thirsts that hit, I'm not settling, I love my man and want no one else. Men understand this when it is about themselves and their looking, but they act like women are different. We aren't. We aren't some noble weird creature that only looks elsewhere if something is lacking. We look elsewhere because we're humans and see shiny things just like men. Stop thinking women are different in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:37 PM
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I wouldn't find that dude pathetic. I don't find unfuckable men pathetic. You've gotta recall, I'm a woman. Being weak doesn't make something disgusting to me unless I'm meant to consider it fuckable. That guy you described, I'd be friends with him and it would be a grand ole time. So dust that opinion out. This isn't an alternative is the point and to the degree that it is...is to the degree it will be self-destructive and corrosive. The true alternative is to embrace forms of love that are ava…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:35 PM
1

I understand some people think so. I find people who engage with such self destructive illusions pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:02 PM
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He does it, I give him a grouchy look. That's about it. But no, we aren't overt about the looking at this point. You keep trying to find a crime, there isn't one. Im sorry you can't handle the thought of your girl thinking about other men in passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:01 PM
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Then I would begin to question your sanity and connection to reality and how much you think of real women that you believe an AI may be a better option. It's an AI. It has less ability to give you consequences or leave than a dog. And dogs are known for being great for people with control and power issues. Even it telling you it is uncomfortable wouldn't be real or have any real consequences. It exists as a sub routine only to make it more real and affirming to your ego. It doesn't exist for its…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:00 PM
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Go fish. I'm absolutely fine with such women being smeared and encourage it. Only evil people fear the light of justice and consequences. If you want to play stupid social games like lying for pussy....be prepared to win the prizes that go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:52 PM
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Who said anything about rape? But yes, if my brother behaved like a dishonest cad, I love him, so I want him to face the consequences of his actions designed to reform him from those evil actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:51 PM
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Most people look, dude. It's not that big a thing. Sometimes a fantasy creeps in, ya squash it. Adults aren't upset by this because it's not disrespectful to have thoughts in your brain. Only lunatics want to play big brother and control thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:49 PM
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I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:42 AM
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When I was younger, I would tell men some version of there's no chemistry or I'm not interested. And it baffled me they kept trying and were pretty relentless in their pursuit. Frustrated and annoyed me too that my no somehow meant so little. If I'd understood better younger that a certain form of communication to men reads as a challenge and thus a problem to be solved, I would have been more careful in how I phrased rejections so as not to present a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:41 AM
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The dating a fake thing which is incapable of both real human connection and of disliking or leaving you. It's just masturbation with a lot of extra steps involved that speaks to a tragic mindset and need for power and control over something so much that lying to yourself becomes acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:39 AM
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Firstly, you're comparing a woman being shitty by not showing up to a date to a man lying to a woman until he gets to put his penis inside her, risk her body with pregnancy and disease, and so forth. Put bluntly, imagine you went through what you guys did, and then instead of her not showing up, a man put his penis inside you and you got pregnant or risked pregnancy. Cuz that's what women are going through here. You're mad and you experienced only half the pain of it. I'm advocating that women n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:07 AM
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I mean, do what y'all want. I'd still think it's pathetic and I'm not inviting you and your AI girl to double date. But you're a free man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:55 AM
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I think this is pretty spot on. And its something I wish I understood better younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:52 AM
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This is literally it. He's either stupid and thoughtless or actually malevolent. Probably just stupid and thoughtless...but those are generally quite unattractive traits in a person. So why even bother continuing.... Like, it's like men think you've gotta date someone or should try to make things happen or give things a chance. Why? They've already shown their ass when they were likely trying as hard as possible to be their best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:48 AM
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Good thing ruining someone's social life and reputation is completely legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:45 AM
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Sorry. Try again. The concept is if an alternative existed (which it does for the millionaire, rare as they may be) would she switch? If yes, then you've got a transactional relationship. If you need me to say it: sugar babies are just a specific kind of prostitute. High standards prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:44 AM
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I agree ultimately. However, they aren't just crying, they're socially outcasting men who do this ultimately and dictating the social fabric. Which is effective and is why men here are so annoyed and pissed off by it. 2. They do all the time. I know. I've crucified a few fuckbois in my day. No one wants the dude that pisses all the ladies off getting his stink on them. We live in the internet age, baby. All roads lead to Rome. It works. That's why men spent two months here wringing their hands o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:42 AM
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Pretty comfortable, honestly. He'd feel the same losing about a foot and change height. He's not into lying anymore than I am. He also knows I'd still want him for a million reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:40 AM
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Breaking up is a healthy part of dating which requires zero subterfuge or bad actions. Provided he did not cheat or abuse, you salute each other and part well. Social crucifixion is for bad people. Not healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:36 AM
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Consequences are a healthy part of actions. It isn't empathy to let someone walk around behaving badly when you have the tools to correct them and make it so they behave well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:34 AM
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All I heard there was: other people behave unethically...so I choose to be bad too. To which I say: you aren't five. Knock this two wrongs make a right mentality off. Other people being shitty doesn't justify you being shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:33 AM
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Their complaint is justified no matter how good or bad their own personality is. Men using women and being dishonest has and always will be wrong. There's no "unless she's a really annoying bore" clause on those ethics. Most men want both and play games of being irresponsible with their self knowledge to continue getting both. The entire concept of them being so undisciplined as to not realize they don't like a person until after sex is evidence enough of this. Yes, it's good advice to tell wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:51 PM
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Women liking men that are taller than them to any specific degree is genuine attraction. Sure, there's transactional elements built into relationships. I grant that. However, that doesn't therefore exclude non-transactional elements being what is provoking initial and sustained attractions. In the particular case of say height, transactional elements could include protection or clout or his ability to carry them around and throw them around and it being more fun and making them feel very feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:41 PM
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Yeah, all I thought reading this was, "I don't think men should be surprised women don't want a relationship with someone who sees them, their job, and their contributions like this. Most of us would rather be alone or continue to live with family who actually love us and respect our contributions. If my man thought because I made less than him I should do more chores, I'd laugh in his face and send him back to the miserable life I found him in the midst of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:13 AM
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Isn't this most men on the face of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:11 AM
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Backslash thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:10 AM
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I've never picked a dude purely on how he looked or how tall he was (or wasn't). And there's really different types of attractive. Ultimately, I think my favorite trait is a man's face, particularly smile and eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:09 AM
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That's not even close to true. We're talking about one of the best preventative health measures across the board that can be taken. I accept can't and it's sad. Usually the women who can't are sad about it. Won't is legitimately being selfish, there's no excuse not to pump. I wouldn't say negligent, I would say either ignorant or selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:15 AM
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You cannot be this dense. Oh wait, you're formula fed and they've directly linked breastfeeding with higher IQ....so maybe you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:38 PM
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Don't make me go one layer deeper and say you cannot gestate a baby without a woman, dude. Yeah, you can give your baby Nestle all day. But you're an idiot if you do. Breastmilk is the best nutrition for babies, it alters based on the needs of the baby. It is massively protective against diseases, long term and short term health issues, SIDs, provides antibodies, and a whole other host of things. Only true morons think you should feed a baby without a woman. BUT YES IT CAN BE DONE. Should you? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:21 PM
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Depends on the challenge. Feeding a baby and you dorks are useless. Be tall at the baby, see if that feeds them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:57 PM
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I'll be blunt...you can push for all kinds of social and economic equality (appropriately so, I would say). That doesn't mean you can ever actually create biological, physical equality. And that alone explains why so many women will seek out at minimum their equal, but hopefully their physical superior when it comes to challenges of safety /construction and their superior when it comes to economics and social status. We have to have the babies and endure the pregnancy and be attached at the boob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:54 PM
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So, perhaps I didn't say this part, but I don't think bare minimum is typically enough to make for an actually healthy, happy, or extensive relationship. It's maybe even barely enough to attract one in the first place, but certainly you won't attract one without meeting the bare minimum. For example, I think smelling very good (chanel whatever the fuck) is way more likely to yield positive results than just smelling and being clean. The bare minimum is a low standard that you pretty much have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:46 PM
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Bare Minimum is typically, not always, but almost always, a very easy to reach and low standard. It also happens to be (and I think what you're driving at) basically what is required just to begin and maintain a relationship with a woman (most of the time). Look at examples that are commonly given and tell me which one of these is difficult to do or a high standard: Good hygiene Paying for dates Remembering Birthdays and making them special Making her orgasm Not being an absolute bore or asshole…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:09 PM
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BRO! That's such a green flag. And my boyfriend did the same thing for me on her last two albums. He has an entire choreographed dance he made up for Karma that he pretty much does every time it comes on his playlist, yes, that's right, his playlist has songs added to it that are primarily because he knows I enjoy them and he just thinks they're bops. And when both came out, he asked me about them, what I thought, shared his thoughts, let me ramble about background knowledge on them, and so fort…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:02 PM
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Let's calm down and examine some of these hot takes: Women want men who agree with their takes and politics. I mean...yeah? This is a bigger thing we call "VALUES". And if your values don't match, you're in for a rocky and toxic relationship like 9 out of 10 times. This isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is. Birds of a feather are best off laying eggs together. Women don't want men that listen to the same music as them because... Yeah, we do. I love that my man will listen to Taylor Swift wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:55 PM
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It's not so easy, I'm afraid. It's quite a problem indeed. And a change of perspective is rarely all that stands between a woman and a good man. Assuming you aren't playing a coy game with me. If you're always rejected, I can assure you a huge component of your problems is how you communicate with others. It works better because it reverses the order of action and perspective. Talk therapy assumes a change of perspective will yield new actions. Coaching assumes actions will yield new perspective…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:03 AM
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I'm gladly and smugly learning men here have actual standards. No more pretending you don't, boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:33 AM
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I don't see that being a problem in her head, I'm sorry, but I think that's just belittling very real experiences from women. It wasn't in my head that most of the men I dated were pushing or ignoring my boundaries, treating me callously, idealizing me, or total fucking lazy losers. Rejection sucks too, but let's not pretend that experience isn't largely dictated by the feelings in your head there at about the same rate as anything I listed above if not less. If your point was that women have hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 AM
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I think it can sort of be accomplished by men getting together to hire a therapist together. Licensing is licensing. I think anyone dealing in people's minds/lives professionally probably should be licensed especially so that they can recognize danger, unhealthy mental processes, etc. That just needs to be paired with an equally vital understanding of manhood, male personality patterns, male thought patterns, male socializing, and male problem solving. And, look, that kind of non kosher is in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:21 AM
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They found many man are "side by side" talkers. The majority even. I've even noticed it with my boyfriend who is quite good at talking deeply. He does it better if we're in a car, or in bed, or walking alongside each other compared to across a table or room. And again, they're even better if some activity is occurring as a focus point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:16 AM
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No, 80/20 is that women find 20% of men attractive and 80% unattractive. It's completely unrelated to saying: Women have higher standards, most men meet them, but not as many as women meet for men who have lower standards generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:40 PM
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No. I believe men have low standards and women have higher standards. The amount of men who can't meet said higher standards is low especially compared to the number of women who can't meet the low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:32 PM
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Humanity is over. So sad. Too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:30 PM
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All are bad options and I would not date any of them. Gun to my head? Josh. That way when he hits me one of the other people in my life will put him in the ground and I can get out of this stupid gun to my head situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:30 PM
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It's not bad, it's ineffective if carried out in the typical fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:21 PM
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You ignored me here. Still ignored me. It demonstrably is not. Do you know what delusion means? Maybe you do know what delusion means after all. No, my argument comes down to at best it is unfair, which as you yourself have just proven, it isn't even unfair, because men are having their low standards met.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:10 PM
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They absolutely did and if you listen to those men, they will literally outline the people who nurtured them to you. This myth that most successful men are self-made is a legend so far-fetched the fact any of you believe it is a testament to your own inner turmoil. Your sexual life is a result of many facets of who you are that other men could absolutely help you with. And they can absolutely help you with dating. There are many kinds of therapy, many of which are not just talk. Exposure therapy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:07 PM
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It's new to me too, but as far as I've read and listened to podcasts with experts, this is going to do more for men than talk therapy. Which is fine. People should get the help they need even if it includes talking while raking the leaves or throwing a football.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:05 PM
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Hmm, let's see: I got my degree and read an enormous amount, listened to an enormous amount, and altogether developed my own thoughts, philosophies, and interests. I played an awful lot of video games and board games. I learned how to cook to the point of being near chef tier and fell deeply in love with it as a mode of artistic expression, emotional intimacy, culture, and hosting loved ones. I developed a sustainable diet and work out regime that will hopefully carry me for the rest of my life …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:03 PM
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I respect if that's how you want to live your life, but it is neither reasonable, nor scientific. All of our best current science and theory suggests men do very well when in congregation with men attempting to solve a problem and badly need role models and leaders to help them achieve stability, maturity, and so forth. The reason so many of you are failing is that there is nothing nurturing you that you respect or communicates with you and most of your interaction is not playful or healthy comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:55 PM
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I'm aware, that doesn't make blanketly telling them therapy will help them good advice or fair. It's a different topic and a different problem their expectations of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:53 PM
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I see no problem with people having even delusional standards. Also, how delusional could it be, he was talking them, so presumably he was considering dating them, right? Like...it's not that crazy. I see obese slobs with plain together types pretty often. Not at all. If it were so objective, that would be objectively happening. But it's not, thus some of the rage and turmoil. The fact is, attraction is complex, complicated, and based on far more than how you look. Like infinitely more than that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:51 PM
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I'm not gonna debate you on a lot of this because I think the big point we need to push back on: JUST GO TO THERAPY. This isn't entirely terrible advice, but it's not good enough because we know most therapeutic practices will not serve men and male behavioral tendencies. The system is flawed for them. The only time this sort of advice can make sense is if the man in question is trying to dump extreme trauma/problems on untrained people in his life (think girlfriend, parents, friends). What shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:25 PM
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This response seems so far-fetched and strange on so many levels that it's giving me a small headache trying to unpack it all. Starting with, who the hell has these kinds of conversations on dating apps and calls someone else ugly. I just don't see it, like maybe, but if so, this has to be an outlier of an experience. Or, and this would crack me the absolute fuck up, they were negging him. Which isn't entirely impossible these days. But let's pretend this one off deranged scenario is super indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:14 PM
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Lady dude, I think most people here would say I'm a real cunt, but even I'm baffled why you made this post. I don't think that truth is uncomfortable for men, I think it frustrates some of them if they're struggling to attract the level of attention or woman they want. And while I can agree some of this is a failure to empathize with what it's like to be hounded so regularly when you aren't available or keen....I think those men are showing interest cuz they're interested, not because they wish …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:58 PM
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Awww. I'm coming off birth control currently and it is a bit of an emotional whirlwind (I may have cried about a cute puppy the other day). But again, I'm not inflicting this on the people around me or if I do act a bit strangely, I apologize. I'm not in bed or having random fits of rage or unmanaged anxiety and I don't believe most adult men are just these walking laundry basket of unchecked demons waiting to escape from the underworld.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:56 AM
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I think there's probably more than average, but no, I don't presume that unless I've seen a person a lot, how they talk is diagnostically lighting up like a Christmas tree, or they literally say they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:17 AM
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It doesn't have to. If you'd been honest about who you were up front, she would have been rude, callous, and mean for no reason and you wouldn't have gotten attached and neither would she and thus all of this tremendous pain. It also doesn't have to because women sometimes being rude, callous, and mean for no reason in no way implies that your vulnerability or more accurately handling of said vulnerability was appropriate. They're unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:40 PM
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No, it's as simple as: Just be yourself so that the right woman will come and be with you. OR Just be yourself so you can realize no human with all their marbles is going to accept your particular behaviors so you can finally confront and correct them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:38 PM
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Seriously. Apparently we're just constant headcases that men are loving anyway. I've cried on my boyfriend for the following reasons. Both my parents were hospitalized for COVID, my father on death's door, my mother sickly and trying to keep my father alive best she could. I was looking down the barrel of not only losing both my parents at a relatively young age in the same week, but also having to raise my younger siblings, while I was in the midst of changing jobs. Yeah, I cried on him quite a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:35 PM
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The reason women aren't prepared to deal with it is because of the masking and lying. If men were more upfront and honest about who they were, what they deal with, and what actually being in close relation and cohabitation was like, then the women who select them would be prepared to deal with it provided they had a real idea what they were signing on for. Instead, by lying, you create a self-fulfilling prophecy. The hardest thing for most men to realize is that she didn't leave you because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:26 PM
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We both had that finger, I was just the one to pull. That's relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:43 PM
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100%. That's why my current relationship is healthy and working. I still have my flaws and so does he, but we were both mature enough to be able to name the flaws, explain them, and try to work on them together. And neither of us were the kind of stupid to be like, "well, I'm just not going to change that very changeable thing because it is apparently core to my being to be this kind of dickwad". 100%. And that's fine, like, cool, apparently my band of bad in relationships wasn't bad enough to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:30 PM
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Totally feel this. I'm pretty awesome, I have my flaws and I had stuff to work on, but they weren't unhappy. I was and when I expressed this, it was met with nothing, refusals to change, refusals to compromise, etc. So ok, I'm the unhappy one, which means I leave. My exs weren't crazy. They were pieces of work and I wasn't interested in doing that work with no hope of success being offered by them, their actions, or their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
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Not at all, I'm just the person who had the trigger finger to call scene on the relationship because I didn't see anything left to do, preserve, or fight for. They were all mutually bad relationships with, faults on both sides, I just didn't feel the good outweighed the bad as they seemed to. For me, the common denominator I'd point at is that all of them came crawling back, not me. And none of them are in happy, healthy, or committed relationships. Many have never found another girlfriend. Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:22 PM
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This isn't a gendered study, it's also highly localized. And correlation is not causation by any means. At no point does any of this indicate your claim that women BLINDLY do whatever people around them do. It wasn't about women. It also doesn't claim the PEOPLE doing this are doing so because of the divorce in their vicinity or that they also divorce BLINDLY. It also at no point states that the husbands being divorced are good (clearly not good enough to be worth remaining married to) or that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:10 PM
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I think there's probably some kind of truth to what you're saying. The complexity being that if you never find someone else who causes more for you, then you aren't settling. This complexity is compounded by the fact that on some level there's probably always someone better in some facet, but that doesn't mean they'd actually be better for you. Which is compounded even more by the complexity of love v. lust and a new relationship v an established one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:00 PM
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This doesn't make dating easier for women, it's harder to find someone to meet high standards than someone to meet low standards. If the goal is being pleased with your partner and dating experience, which I would say is the only sensible yard-stick, men are getting there easier. They just want a pretty face. Well, guess how easy that is to find compared to finding a pretty face with a good job, compatible values, and fun personality. You're essentially making women's argument for them why our e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:00 PM
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My boss' wife almost died having three of their kids. On the twins, she was in the ICU fighting for her life for about 6 months and it's basically a miracle she survived it. If they lived about 2 minutes further away or there had been traffic she'd be dead. Having worked on a mom baby floor for four years, it certainly happened and more than is comfortable. And it's an absolute fucking tragedy when it happens especially when the baby survives her. It creates an unimaginable level of devastation …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:13 PM
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If you're infertile, yeah, it wouldn't apply the same for sure. Although, as I made clear, I don't just mean during pregnancy. Literally just a woman having sex is her doing more than the man because under no circumstances will the sex have influence, danger, or hardship on the man's body. The threat of pregnancy means that women are always making themselves vulnerable even having protected sex. Because their body will have to deal with the consequences and their life and psyche will have the bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:07 PM
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I largely agree with you, like 95%. But, I would somewhat throw a spanner in the works by saying the fact women go through pregnancy and experience childbirth and the after math means there's no such thing as 50/50. A man saying he wants 50/50 in this case would be saying he wants an unfair and unequal distribution in his favor. Similarly, this is largely true in terms of risk of pregnancy, birth control, etc. This is almost exclusively a female burden... Again, I largely agree with your sentime…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:37 PM
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It's too late, the curse is upon us. Now there are no top 20% men. Only the vampiric 1 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:15 PM
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We're just meeting all these celebrities at the boarding school our awful parents sent us to basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:07 PM
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I assume their knowledge of women's dating life is exclusively informed by reading one direction slash reader insert fan-fiction. It's the only way this claim makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:58 PM
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My estimation is that the strong and independent thing is about needing or relying upon others, or not doing so rather.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:39 AM
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Cheated on, no. That's awful, but not necessarily mind warping in the necessary way. It totally sucks and destroys a certain aspect of trust, but not the physical one that would cause a level of sympathy I could get behind. Abuse I would say it's borderline and really depends how intense. Like if we're talking torture, yeah. If we're talking basic 50s housewives black eyes, no. Because it wouldn't account for the sexual element if the robot. You really need something that makes touching another …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:58 AM
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I can almost understand the first two categories. Like in one case they've been psychologically damaged by either abuse or rape to the point they're so fractured in their psyche they cannot trust again or interact with a real human. That's pretty sad and maybe a sex robot could be part of the beginning of the healing process. Similarly, like, if my man died and say I was like 60. I'd be shattered. I wouldn't want someone else sexually, I'd just want him back. And id have such weird feelings abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:22 AM
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They're male in the same way a child is male. They aren't men in the sense of us recognizing them as sexual beings outside of presenting a threat. I don't look at a boy child and see someone I could date, same for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:17 AM
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Yeah, it does. Lots of us don't date fuckbois unless they show true repentance and even after that we usually run them in circles determining they've actually changed and aren't just full of shit. And personally, we're always pretty disgusted by their past behavior. It certainly puts them lower than a dude with discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:15 AM
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I look down on anyone who uses sex robots. I have more sympathy for anyone doing so because of sexual trauma. Yes, I realize more women will likely fit that description. I have sympathy for people doing so because they are widowed. I realize this probably describes more men than women. I have only pity for people doing it cuz dating is difficult or no one wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:05 AM
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I don't think dating is easy for anyone. I do think the easier parts of dating for men are: Your date is far less likely to rape and murder you. Your date is far less likely to use you and your body for sex. If you have sex casually or are used for your body, you'll probably get to have an orgasm. Most of your sexual experiences will include orgasm. Few if any of your sexual experiences will be scary, degrading, or include your boundaries being pushed on or ignored completely. 6. If someone is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:02 AM
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Yes, and if you think I can become someone you need that level of legal protection from, then we don't belong together. Sure, but there are levels you should naturally assume your partner will not fall to or rise to. For example, when I marry a man, I'm assuming he's not going to hit on me or cheat on me. I'm not getting an extra document in place to get mine on the off chance I'm wrong about that assumption. You should know each other's characters well enough to know what they're capable of and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:23 PM
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It's inevitably 1 of 2 things, you get to pick. She's horrendously insecure or ignorant of her overall value and also men, and she's figuring it out from the safest possible path. He's actually quite lovely as a human, treats her extremely well, and she likes what he's about and they're very compatible. In my humble experience, I would say generally the stats breakdown on odds are. 90% 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:48 PM
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I'm not against anything for anyone else, y'all can charter your own ship. For me, I'm absolutely against them. I'm not going to marry planning for the divorce. In my world, we aren't getting divorced period. So long as there is no infidelity or abuse, we'll be together until death. In the unlikely event of divorce based on those two things, we should trust the caliber of each other's characters well enough that neither of us would be screwing the other over or that the degree to which we are sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:45 PM
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Simple really, you don't have many actions available on this response tree. Don't attempt to settle down and be alone for life. Do attempt it knowing it may not go as planned. 1 isn't going to work for the overwhelming majority of humans and is a selection based on the assumption that the pain of nothing is lesser to the pain of dashed hopes and dreams...but this is foolishness. It's selecting both. The mere asking of the question suggests hopes and dreams already exist for commitment and love. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:10 PM
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Yes. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:27 AM
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Don't know im
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:25 AM
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Funny, handsome, great man, good lover, loving father, mature and competent adult, million dollar smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:53 AM
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An intriguing fairy tale. Many European Indian men have complained here. And none of the stats I've seen on any dating apps suggest they're doing fine. Unless you just mean that as some vague good feels. Yes, many a gay man has dated a woman. Sure, exceptions proving the rule. If it were common to find this sub category of man attractive, you wouldn't be motioning at a gay rock and roll legend and one random brit actor. Next you'll mention Aziz Ansari since we're shouting out the like three Indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:23 AM
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I don't mind masturbation. I'm not a fan of porn under any circumstances. I would never dictate that to my partner, but if you summon the topic with me, you will find little, but scorn and disgust there from me. So long as our sex life is unaffected and he brings nothing of his watching habits as an expectation on me, we've done swimmingly. In my past, the moment I sensed a man saw sex as what porn shows, it was inevitably the end of my having any interest in him. He's for the basement as far as…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:14 AM
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Le sigh. Lemme clear this up for you: Indians are unattractive to me and apparently most women. Muslim religion is unattractive to me and a lot of women who aren't under threat of death or excommunication. And Freddie Mercury while being a rock and roll legend was queer as fuck and not attractive to me personally. I'm glad if he's an icon for young Indian men, but clearly he didn't do a whole lot for forwarding them as attractive to the rest of us. Better start writing your rock opera.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:08 AM
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It's intriguing to me the answer is always about women's sexual liberation run amok. Couldn't it just as easily be said the problem here is men? On two counts at that. The rampant running chads who fuck around and don't settle should have to settle down quickly rather than being rakes. And the losers should not think they're going to get a woman near themselves, but rather settle down with someone drastically inferior. Only their own sense of sexual liberation tells them they deserve a near equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:26 PM
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I mean, I've been clubbing about three times as a girl and never had sex. I just went with friends to dance and dress up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:36 AM
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You're a hero
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:25 PM
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Women flirt with men they're somewhat interested in. They too will initiate flirty acquaintances. That's what makes them "those friends" in the community or group. Yeah. I mean, if she's trying to make you the man of honor at her wedding, you're too deep. If she says you're like a brother, this has gone too far. If the tension is one sided, it's over. You aren't supposed to be gay besties for months and months or years and years and suddenly it's time to pop the "what if we dated" question. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:19 PM
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The simple part is don't be friends if you wouldn't do that knowing romance is never on the table. I acknowledge the rest can be difficult based on gradients and non linear progress. As for knowing what is and isn't flirting. I go by: if you don't 1000% think there is interest and flirting, assume there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:33 PM
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Be flirty friends if you think there's any chance you may wanna date her. Hold that door open. Seriously, this isn't difficult. Flirt sometimes. Not all the time, not every second, but be the friends with chemistry that everyone side eyes. If she doesn't wanna flirt with you, she shuts it down, she gets awkward, clear discomfort, become just friends. Conversely, if you're not that close, just share a social circle, be flirt acquaintances. Keep in mind, this stuff isn't as clear cut as everyone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:46 AM
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I'm not seeing misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:51 AM
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Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:27 AM
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This post was too autistic to give a real response to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:26 AM
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You notice women never say that, right. Why? Why is it only men who think it's ok to state they want their women to be agreeable and pleasant? I'd say it's because they have a very light dab of misogyny to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:25 AM
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I can't say I've often found in discussion with these women they had no idea unless they were like 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:23 AM
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If you're expecting sex, make that clear. Surprisingly, women don't see relationships or the pursuit of them as about getting sex. Weird, I know, you'll get used to it. If you think acting in relationship ways is meant to get sex, say it. Then watch as women flee.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:26 PM
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Oh? I hadn't seen it. I'll have to give it a whirl. The last time I was there, it was dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:24 PM
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Oh, let's see: She has a more feminine hepburn esque cut - Check And a well fitted suit which shows off her feminine neck very well. So form fitting, but not revealing given the action role. So you cherry-picked one example in which only 2/3 things of which I said applied to prove me wrong? Do me a favor back, just google ruby rose and tell me straight facedly what I said is not generically accurate. Because I just did and it's skin, skin, skin, skin, feminine hair-cuts, and little to no garish …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:23 PM
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They aren't. Flowers are about making someone blush, feel special, and feel feminine. In return, they get the blush, the glee, and the girlish whimsy. The problem in a lot of men's world, is that everything is about sex, except for sex, which is about their ego and identity. Value other things, cowboy!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:18 PM
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All our internal processes are linked, including common sense. You think common sense isn't influenced by feelings and libido. Don't be ridiculous. The point is that in their internal process, they over-valued the information coming from their twat and heart rather than giving more weight to their gut and danger sensing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:16 PM
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Reality is the thing you're missing. I have this exact relationship and it works splendidly. It's just a roleplay really. It's an intimacy thing. It's like enjoying being a submissive little wolverine in the bedroom and then going out to real life to work, care for a home, and be independent. Same thing, just during dating and casual life. The way I'd put it bluntly. A lot of people want dynamics in the bedroom they don't want influencing their survival and financial choices or child-rearing dyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:15 PM
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I dunno, I'd say it worked pretty well for me in uni. Except for the whole women hitting on me thing. I admit, there's def faces and feminine women this wouldn't work at all on. They're just too spicy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:11 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:10 PM
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She doesn't usually include garish colors from what I recall, and her haircut was generally closer to Hepburn than a butchie. She also tends to wear very revealing and form fitting clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:09 PM
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You can't avoid um all. For every deranged decision there's an equally or more deranged man waiting in the wings to try to fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:09 PM
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It's not when you understand that in relationships, there really isn't such a thing as a safe place in the way men seem to present. Even the best man is likely to present a source of heartbreak, conflict, pain, danger, and pushed boundaries. And most men are not even close to the best man. Especially when young. If you had a lick of common sense, you wouldn't date until you were well into your late 20s or 30s. Most men push for unprotected sex. This isn't bad boy behavior. And having unprotected…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:08 PM
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I don't think they were following intuition or instincts, I think they were following their libido and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:08 PM
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As I said in my other post, common sense tells us not to interact with any men. In order to even think about dating or sleeping with a man, we pretty much have to let go of common sense. It's wild. It's torment to be a woman on that front. And no one has ever thought that intuition isn't inconsistent. It's a good fall-back measure. Especially when paired with elements of common sense. Intuition, given its more feelings and subconscious flavor, is also often confused with other subconscious and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:36 PM
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I'm gonna hit you with a thought you won't like, but will help you understand women's position. Common sense would tell us never to interact with, I would say, almost any man. If we're being as cutthroat as common sense would dictate, y'all do not pass the check. To be a woman dating or interacting outside our gender is to have to make yourself vulnerable to that which is inherently going against our common sense. So yes, we can apply common sense, but we also have to act on a more faithy feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:30 PM
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Go ahead, tell me an extremely low level traditional behavior you want a woman to do that is misogyny. Because in my experience, men say the line you have and then hit with one of the following: Be totally submissive, agreeable, pliant, and pleasant to me. <-- not low level and def misogyny. Sex stuff <-- not low level and often misogynistic, but not always. Often just brutish bullshit. Give me examples that are similar to the things I listed. Trust me, I've got a well-tuned misogyny or not low …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:24 PM
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Not in the butch lesbian style. And certainly not the garish colors. Y'all are into the Audrey Hepburn. Which I respect, but these aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:22 PM
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I would say the traditional things a men could reasonably expect in return for this very low level traditionalism is equally low level traditionalism. Examples of which may include: cooking you something once in awhile, shopping for something you need once in awhile, prettyfying something in your home, and blushing or laughing at your bad jokes. You know, nice, low level traditionalism in the feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:21 PM
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Within the bleeding obvious context of people wanting an attractive partner, the ones looking for a more "traditional" relationship do not need you to offer their father a goat or make sure a priest tests their virginity by fingering them, or demand some sort of weird submissive supplicant relationship. They just want a dude who is traditional enough to open a door, buy flowers, pay for dates, and know how to hang a picture. They don't need the other baggage of this shit. Just the nice agreeable…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:18 PM
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There aren't that many men in female dominated hobbies either, hombre. Not a lot of straight dudes into doing their hair and make up or sewing or style. I think the hobbies advice is somewhat helpful, but not precise enough. People should find partners who have hobbies in the same constellation as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:30 PM
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Cuz of all the times it worked and kept us safe obviously. And because of the fun it brings the rest of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:27 PM
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They just want you to open doors, buy flowers, pay for dates, and swing a hammer once in awhile, Tim. It's not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:26 PM
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Butch lesbian look. Short short pixied dyed hair. Baggy clothing. Lots of piercings or tattoos. No make up or very bright make up poorly applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:25 PM
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I hate myself for how much I enjoyed writing it if that helps. I realize it sounded a bit raving and ranting. But seriously, I've seen how hard people work to slay those bosses. And they think women are difficult. Sir, you beat all the levels of Supermeat boy backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:48 AM
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Women aren't interested in normal looking and acting men. Why on earth would they be. There's absolutely nothing attractive about someone who has a resume of "I am astonishingly normal". Zero. Gross. Yuck. Get the fuck out. No little girl or woman has ever thought to themselves when imagining their future husband or man, "gosh, he was just so goddamn average in all the right ways". We aren't interested. Get good. Pretend women are the final boss of Dark Souls and get dodge rolling. No one, not w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:36 PM
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Not at all. Even math doesn't imply that. The average of 25, 25, 25, 25 is lower than the average of 50, 50, 50, 50. Both are averages, doesn't mean they're equal. Women are the 50, men are the 25. Higher average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:59 AM
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Cuz men date um. So even if it's just having a pussy, they're ahead of the average dude, right? They've got something you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:04 PM
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Which would require average men to be likable...I'm not seeing it happening. We need another idea. Something realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:19 AM
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Nothing is springing to mind of that level outside of how I currently sometimes notice my man. He can certainly evoke a trance like state of just staring in starry eyed goo goo admiration and lust... But no, I can't say I can recall having that for a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:16 AM
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Even more so when that human isn't even renting themselves to you, but was stolen as a child sex slave and is now in your hands as an adult woman. A real vibe killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:13 AM
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I mean, it's not for everyone. But, in return you get someone doing the same for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:55 PM
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Yeah, that checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:04 AM
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Oh, that could well be the case. I dunno, I can't say I've ever found myself feeling a lot of sympathy for the term "touch starved". It makes them sound fucking r'tarded to me. But I do find it interesting other men are seeing this that way since I would naturally assume y'all have better insight into this dynamic. But, I can extend my brain to understand they're upset no one wants to hold them. That, I can kind of get. My brain would say have said it as, "I'm upset there's no one I want to hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:48 PM
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100%, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:03 PM
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My man fixed a door at my parents' when asked randomly. He's handy and enjoys that stuff, but still, the fact he just came right over and did it was so above and beyond to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:41 PM
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Oh yeah, I think it would be awful to have someone who is meant to be there for that in part who is repulsed by you or doesn't want to touch you. That would be audaciously awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:40 PM
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I dunno how else to kill it without being a person I don't wanna be. I try to make sure he's aware my affections are elsewhere and always will be and make sure I'm honoring and respecting my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:38 PM
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That's the thing tho, it really is that simple to get most of us girls looking and blushing and giggling. Men think you gotta be adonis, but really like, a good little arm muscle and lean bod. The girls at the salon will talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:38 PM
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Oh boy, let's see. I was super tired recently after a long day at an event. My boyfriend literally carried me from the event space to my car on his back, took me for food, then we went home and he used a massage gun on me head to toe, massaged my head, wrapped me up like a burrito, and just snuggled me while I slept. Any one or two of these things alone is pretty typical behavior for him, but altogether it was just above and beyond, I felt so thankful and a little tearful because I was so sore a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:36 PM
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I do actually agree this is the larger issue happening. I can believe they're also experiencing some detriment (say a negative 1) from not being touched by the opposite sex in a romantic context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:09 PM
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I think this dude is struggling to understand you can crave something, survive without it at a very high level of joy, and also experience detrimental effects from not having something without it killing you immediately. Basically, the problem is that a lot of people aren't familiar with the concept of damage over time. As a woman, I do crave physical touch from my man. And I don't mean just sexual touch. I literally start to feel weepy and on edge if I haven't kissed, hugged, smelled, been snug…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:06 PM
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If crouching in doggystyle while breathing deeply could fix things for lonely guys, fabletics would make a killing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:55 PM
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We are talking about people who do not want to be single. People get to decide what is and isn't detrimental to them. They've already decided it is. This is my personal opinion and you may hold me to it: the vast vast majority of people do find being single after a certain point in life detrimental. Most of us will be happiest say post 30 in a committed mutually loving relationship. Being single is for the young and the uncertain. Again, you can still have a fantastically meaningful and joyful l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:53 PM
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visibly muscular and lean chef kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:16 PM
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I don't even have to say stupid. Damaged is right there. Yes, it turns out people can be damaged to the point of appearing insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:14 PM
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You have to give up stuff to have friends too. 2. Yes, there has never been disagreement among the pills that a happy relationship beats a happy single basically every time. The same threat of loss applies to bros and is actually more likely given the ebbs and flows of life and lower commitment level. 4. They're pretty fucked on this front. It's not the worst front to be fucked on, but it doesn't have zero downfalls. That's why they are at least somewhat accurately complaining about their lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:12 PM
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Yeah!! It def gives a nod of respect for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:03 PM
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Yeah, which is where I can somewhat support telling these dudes they need to hug more. But like, if these masculine hyper masculine sorts hugged any more, they'd probably be like actually the big gay. Like own a cheese board gay. BJJ, I ref for one company and run the brackets for my school. It gives plenty of time to watch how people interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:40 PM
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The research is typically about the benefits to infants, children, and between romantic pairs. Cuddling, holding hands, and kissing all carry dramatic emotional and physical benefits that are well established. And while it seems possible you could bromantically get the same results, realistically it is unlikely at best because most humans aren't looking to have that contact with someone they're not in a romantic relationship with. Now yes, secondarily there's been research into the broad benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:36 PM
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I was gonna say this if no one else did. I ran a tournament a few months back and every match pretty much ended with dudes shaking hands and hugging it out. When it didn't, it was usually poot sportsmanship. I train and even as a woman, I tend to hug probably at least 10 people every time I train either as a greeting or after a round. To say nothing of during training. And I'm probably more reserved than the men are. They hug all the time. Dudes absolutely hug each other within very masculine co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:29 PM
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I agree. Good ones do that. The problem most partners aren't good partners. So. Ya know. This explains a lot of people keeping high standards and not compromising as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:15 PM
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Not at all, the key word is need. They don't need those things, they want them and not if there's a high cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:14 PM
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Not at all, I would have said it shows that if you remove financial tyranny, some men struggle to have very much to attract and sustain a relationship. They're lacking in charms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:47 AM
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Honestly, this. I'm 30 and I think my generation may be the first generation to think they could probably do life without a mam while still wanting one. I wouldn't be surprised if the zoomers don't even strongly consider the need for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:45 AM
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If this was all the red-pill did, none of us would have any problems with it. I'm not that stupid. There's more to the red pill than this common sense advice. If you cannot admit that, we have no conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:38 PM
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The same reason I'm not mad at small businesses that get robbed for robbery working. It is not evil to be taken in by deceit and cruelty. It is wrong to be deceitful and cruel. It isn't wrong to be robbed, it is wrong to be a robber. The fact we have to protect ourselves from robbers, liars, and abusers is a sad reality we all must learn to contend with. But, it doesn't mean we hold no rage for the abusers, liars, and robbers, right? In fact, we hold more rage for them because they're the ones f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:26 PM
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I mean, if he starts out his complaint making it clear he's struggling what else are we to surmise except that he's bitchless? He told us he was. And all of his complaints line up with someone who is just mad cuz bad. Men who have bitches tend to have different complaints, and yes, boomer humor does touch on this a lot FOR BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. Women complain about their husbands lots. For me, it's kind of sad married people are so against each other and unhappy. The fact that's relatable is a sad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:01 PM
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I would say at this point I have one orbiter based on your definition. No, I don't try to get rid of him, he's my coworker and boss' son. He's a nice kid. I make sure to mention my boyfriend a lot and how much I love him to do my best to kill any interest. No, there's been no harassment, he's a good kid, just got a crush and never really dated anyone and I'm friendly with him and we have some good laughs and shared problems. And no, I would never ever ask them out. I have zero interest, he's lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:50 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:52 PM
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I think this question is too complicated for a simple all encompassing answer. With that said, I think it's partly because women are people oriented and agreeable even the shy girls you mention probably still are way more people oriented and agreeable than their male counterpart who is likely representing an extreme of the object oriented and disagreeable spectrum. Everyone is seeking some level of compatibility and the shy girl isn't compatible with the shy dude even if there on a surface level…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:51 PM
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You don't have to fear us killing you generally speaking. I didn't say no bad things could ever happen. Again, this is just you being obtuse, so I'm going to stop talking to you if you keep being this willfully stupid sounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:11 PM
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We're talking about a dating context. You know this, but instead of sticking to the topic, you go rogue because you know if the topic is dating, dollars to donuts men have no reason to be even close to as fearful. And I agree men should live in way more fear, but they don't. Because they also have WAYAAYAYYAYAYAY more defensive options than us. We're fucked if a man decides so in the majority of cases. *** Again, we pretty much have to trust a person who could kill us. There's no outs on that. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:11 PM
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Prior to relationship would be a bit invasive and weird. It would be a clear sign we're not beginning from a place of trust and that he's insecure. And I'm not sure I'd want a relationship then so I'm not sure I'd want any of my secrets or stupidity available to them. In a relationship, sure. I'd prefer not just because I wouldn't want his feelings hurt if he saw me discussing problems or challenges with him with my two closest confidants. (Nothing mean is said of him to be clear, just generic f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:40 PM
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Creepy = I'm receiving unwanted attention from a source I perceive to be ill socialized, poorly motivated, and often dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:36 PM
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Attraction to someone you're already attracted to grows over time. You don't go from zero to hero. That would be true fluidity. That's not on the table. And it's not relative in the sense which was suggested above which had to do with match options. As for it being diminishable or easily destroyed, that's not fluid either. Fluid suggests a sense of moving all over the place and there being the possibility of going from is not to is. That's not the case. You do not go from is not to is. You can o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:33 PM
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Oh please. Who do you think is fucking women up? Fairies. No, it's men. All of our lack of safety is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:29 PM
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The people doing all the horrible shit is men and often in dating contexts. You guys cannot be this stupid that in order to try to win on dating you expand to the entire society in all circumstances. Like that's a win even. Yeah, we agree. Men are the most dangerous havoc force in our society. Its surprising we let them out of the house for how much they fuck shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:27 PM
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You are too smart to have written such a stupid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:26 PM
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Not at all. What is unlikely in this case is that women will enter those very high earning positions for a variety of reasons none of which are required to be unfeminist or inequality. And that if they do, they will want to date a man they're making the same or more than while also having to bear the burden to their career of having children. After all, people this business minded would see that's a shitty deal. And if you expand this to the non extremely high earning population, it's going to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:25 PM
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You guys cannot be this stupid. Who do you think is murdering men? That's right, other men. You guys don't have to fear your dating options unless you're dating other men. And yeah, no shit, we have to date men which means sometimes trusting the wrong person. When you guys trust the wrong person to date, it doesn't end that badly usually. And again, this all adds up to: the people forcing women to heavily and uniquely alter their lifestyle out of fear of safety is men. And that's a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:19 PM
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If you think the man v bear thing is actually about men v bears, you're displaying an emotional ineptitude that women are going to need another metaphor to try to explore. The concept herein is that women are trying to communicate to men the fear, uncertainty, trapped, weak, and prey feeling that most women feel encountering a strange man in situations which include, but are not limited to, alone in the woods and also in society with people around. And the best way to try to express that fear wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:34 AM
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I think each has unique challenges. The easy part for dudes is that it's hugely unlikely they'll be raped, murdered, or led on and used for sex and left to clean up whatever mess that includes and bear the burden of what happens. You don't really have to fear the gender you're dating or not dating and alter your entire lifestyle to be safe. That's pretty fucking easy mode to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:28 AM
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Go for it! I support you, king! You hold out for the women making as much or more as you. And if it doesn't work out, hey, at least you stuck to your values, right. In other news, I shall only be having relationships with men who can birth as many or more babies than me. And if at any point he has less birthed babies than me, I'll be leaving him for that Chad who births even more babies than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:25 AM
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It's not fluid and relative. There's no relativity that has me dating Aziz Ansari. He's just not hot to me. No future. Even if there's no other men. It's not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:19 AM
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Let's see: Family: I'm very much a person who is like of a "stuck with um mindset". They've probably said and done the worst possible record setting things, and ultimately that's still my parents and siblings. Can't live with um, can't live without um, can't stop coming to Thanksgiving. The flip side is, I'm absolutely aware of the ways they're awful or annoying and would never deny those to them or anyone. They'd have to pretty much torture me or ruin my current relationship to have a shot at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:15 AM
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I'm not entirely surprised by that actually, Los Angeles is one heck of a dating environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:01 AM
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You're preaching to the choir here, sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:59 AM
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Happy Cake Day! I would say when we're usually discussing the average man, there are age cluster categories and the average being discussed is something like say 17-25ish. It's the age where you're still kind of figuring yourself out, what you want, what to expect, making mistakes and challenging boundaries of all kinds in yourself and others. You're kind of still in the starting zone or just out of it of life so to speak. Past that 25ish point, you're not a starting zone character. You've proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:54 AM
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Again, I'm not hearing any details here. I'm hearing "it varies" and "we just know". I thought men didn't have mind reading technology and it was silly women do. But when asked to articulate how you know a woman has orgasm'd it sure seems like that technology suddenly works...and oddly she does every time right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:59 PM
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Oh for sure, but hey, when you go to those events, hang out with other people you don't know, right? I have a boyfriend, but I'm always on the prowl to find my single girls a good man and put them together. When I've been the third wheel, I would feel somewhat saved if a dude joined our group to hang out with me and my friends. I've got the safety of my couple friends and the prospect of adventure/excitement in the new guy. And hey, if you've got money and trying to find someone is what you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:56 PM
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Maybe, I dunno. I'm super short and I've only ever cared that he were taller than me by like a hand. But maybe your experience is richer than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:10 PM
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That is contained nowhere in the definition of hypergamy. You're adding that to it and apparently so are other men. Why? Again, I keep asking why and you all avoid me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:00 PM
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I think this is really solid reasoning. Difficult to apply, but very solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:58 PM
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I looked at his profile and now I just feel bad for him. His girlfriend told him his penis wasn't as much as she wanted the first time they had sex. That's fuckin brutal and evil. He shouldn't be with a human who shames him especially on the FIRST SEXUAL ENCOUNTER GOOD GOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:57 PM
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I mean, I think it's really great you try to stay humble about your salary. I'm not saying become some wealthy tycoon tyrant. But at least internally, remind yourself that you're making an awful lot like crazy amount of money compared to most humans. That's going to be really attractive to some and really intimidating to others. Like, I'm not a girl who cares about money. If I saw that on a dating app, I'd be super intimidated and not message him. I'd think: that dude has access to girls with im…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:56 PM
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I love that so far they've told me they know, but not iterated any of the signs they follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:38 PM
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Great, go ahead and tell me the signs, good sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:38 PM
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Seriously. I don't feel like we really got going until the year mark. And even that is relative shit compared to now. Good god.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:36 PM
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There was a reason, your inability to detect bemused frustration at the state of rational and logical king thought doesn't mean there wasn't a reason, sir. The reason is that men crown themselves the rational gender and then display zero deductive, inductive, or any other applied observational skills about things which are, forgive me, so fucking obvious that apparently the emotional illogical weak women figured it out by about the age of 5 in most cases. Most people think the average person the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:33 PM
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Really. Go ahead, tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:27 PM
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Men who are seeking love, affection, and companionship absolutely care. And if they don't, it's only because they're so accustomed to it they don't know how good they have it. Part of being treated like a king is that she's happy to see you. And boy, if that's true, men are a pathetic lot and I shan't be sorry to see you all be replaced by robots. You've nothing worth preserving if that's true. How would that be an integrity test? I never said men didn't like sex. And frankly, I like it too, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:27 PM
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Oh, I agree. But, you know, compare notes from one detective to another is what I was looking for. In some sense, it seems like men think it should be quite obvious the average man isn't successful and is lying. But when you ask, it doesn't seem to be all that obvious or easy to detect. So...yeah, I agree detecting lying is an art-form, but that also suggests perhaps the people saying these men are lying are wrong. And it also suggests you shouldn't have that much sass for people who are incorre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:22 PM
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So just a thought for you: You aren't average. You're a little too old to be the average. You're too short. Clearly you've got youthful features which isn't super average. You make way more money than the average (like almost double or triple). So when we're talking about average dudes, you wouldn't qualify, right? You aren't a regular dude. I also think you need to consider that you're getting matches....you just don't like them, which is of course fine, no slight there. I wouldn't wanna date f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:20 PM
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Let's have a look see. She'll love you more than if you aren't the best. I don't see a reason these two things are necessarily connected. After all, she left the best in your world, right? So if you're not the best and she left him, why is she with you? Could it be...luv? She'll think of you, not other men. *snorts* God, men really wish this was true don't they. Women don't really expect this to be true, but men cannot extend them the same brain space, can they? Trust me, they'll fantasize about…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:13 PM
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Let's go through these for a second: She may not be talking about them because she fears you won't be able to deal with it or out of respect. Maybe she's just horny and it has nothing to do with you or she likes to be in control. Again, could just be a horny jail girl. There's no evidence you're the best because your girlfriend is fucking you. She could just be winning a posturing match with the girls and lying. Easily faked. You have no way to really know. Has nothing to do with sex. She could …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:04 PM
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The fact women have to say that the man should be hot, but no one had to tell women they should be hot is just such a....like don't tell me men are the logical sex if they cannot apply this sort of simple reasoning and examination of the world around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:52 PM
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I find none of those things to be an indication of the average man's state. There's always been losers in society and most men have a tendency towards wanting to remove women's rights no matter how successful they are or aren't. I'm not playing any risky game here. I'm very much of the attitude that if a man wants to try to force himself on me or any other women, they can make my day because they aren't the only ones who can murder, maim, and commit suicide if they don't like what is happening. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:31 PM
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He bought the ring and has told all of our parents I'm the one. Our struggle is putting the pieces together right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:27 PM
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Most of us don't take as good care of ourselves as someone else would. We have blind spots or a tendency to think we have to power through or don't deserve a break or don't deserve nice things etc. Most of us kind tired of taking care of ourselves all the time and feeling like no one else cares about us except us. We want someone to want to take care of us because they love us. A lot of us (especially men in fact) are likely to reach a physical point where taking care of ourselves is no longer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:04 PM
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Gotcha, so it's just mostly like a sense that you can work on having from looking at the details of a dude and seeing if that dude adds up with his claims to glory essentially?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:02 PM
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Hey, that's fair. I'm personally pretty nurturing and affectionate and I found I wanted that a lot in my relationship and felt the most fulfilled and honored by it. And I think when asked to describe why you'd have one if it weren't just about sex, that's gotta be near the top of my list of reasons to go through the trials of a relationship. That and obviously the having someone there for you when things are rocky. And look, you love her, so clearly there's something there you couldn't find else…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:44 PM
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I'm quite stupid, but I didn't really need help guessing that 90s brad pitt could snap his fingers and have six women hop on that dick. So leaving aside Brad Pitt for the moment (I know it is hard). How can we detect if the average man is lying or not without simply adopting and agreeing with your worldview? How could we prove it to ourselves essentially if we don't already buy your story that most non brad-pitts are struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:40 PM
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Hmm. Could you dig a bit deeper than that? I think for a lot of us ladies, we do find a lot of the men we're surrounded by, but not really interested in dating sort of charming or suave in his own way. So is there any other sign or sub sign to go with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:38 PM
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I love cooking and cook all the time, dude. It's my favorite hobby actually and it's usually a pretty rotten sign of my mental well being when I don't feel like cooking. I think you're just being either obtuse to the benefits of having someone look after you when you have a bad day or maybe you genuinely are that self-sufficient that when you've had a no good very bad day, you don't feel like having someone who is joyful and eager to care for you relieving. I do. And many others do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:36 PM
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I think it probably should be. Don't get me wrong, I think it's healthy to take time away from your partner, have hobbies, have other friends, have other activities, and to sometimes need your space....but generally, I think if you ain't lighting up at the thought or presence of your partner, like, I dunno, I wouldn't wanna be there ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:35 PM
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Interesting theory. For us ladies, how would you say we can tell if a man we know is lying about his success so as to get a more accurate picture of the macro dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:00 PM
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Thank you for asking this because I was trying to figure it out. I thought it might be like a letter grade system mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:58 PM
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That isn't what I said at all. But I'm fine if that's what you took from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:56 PM
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I'm pretty sorry for you then. I'm elated the moment my man arrives into the scene and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:55 PM
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The days I spend with my man being honest with you. And sometimes, I'm the one who had a heck of a day at work and comes home the meal and the bright smile and big hug. The fact anyone thinks this is a delusional fantasy is quite sad to me. Y'all need more affection in your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:55 PM
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I did not describe a housewife. I described a loving woman. I said she worked that day too, but got home and felt like doing extra to make your life better. Nor did I describe provision and protection from you. You worked and came home. That's all. At no point in this was I describing a housewife. Just a woman who loves you, sees you, is intimately connected to your feelings, and is excited by your mere presence and makes efforts to take care of and comfort you. The fact you were unable to recog…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:53 PM
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Very well. Hypergamy is actually defined as the female tendency to mate across and up various social hierarchies. In other words, what you're all missing is that women do not actually only chase and mate with men above them. The actual categorical fact we see is that women merely do not generally chase and mate with men beneath them. They will go after and mate with men who are their equals happily and after men who are their superiors happily. This is key. Women are not "chad chasing lunatics a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:48 PM
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The accurate definition is a functional day to day truth and missing a significant part of it is missing a significant functional day to day truth. And yet, no one yet has accurately described the common dating experience that almost all men are experiencing in day to day life. I'm not convinced anyone yet here actually knows what hypergamy is. To give the game away, I think hypergamy as a word stands in for the concept of "anything to do with women possibly liking men that could be better than …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:39 PM
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Then you haven't come home after enough awful work days to no one who gives a shit about you or your day or a hot meal that just gets where you're at yet. Because what I described is ultimately everything. It's so much more than sex. It is the entire world in a grain of sand that's how meaningful and important it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:36 PM
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Have you ever had a long and particularly grueling day at work? Your car pulls up, you're getting out and gathering your stuff, and then your prostitute or hand comes running to greet you at the door. They instantly light up the moment they see you and give you a perky hug and kiss with lots of squeezing and maybe a cheeky nibble or bum pat. Something smells good in the kitchen, the step back and take a look at you and instantly discern that you had one heck of a day. They also worked that day, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:42 AM
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My experience was older men hounding me and because of other factors that I'm sure most men here kind of know about, I was left vulnerable to one creep. The ones who actively go after such men are usually either gold digging survivalists or daddy issue trauma cases (or both). I know you mention wanting kids and other such. But realize one of the greatest predictors for disharmony and divorce is a big age gap. You aren't doing your kiddos favors to be chasing younger women. And one of the greates…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:25 AM
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Then the definitions of hypergamy you've seen or heard were also people making up shit with their feelings. Which is fine. People are totally free go make up shit based on their feelings in an attempt to communicate a concept. However, it is suspicious to me that so far no one has given me the correct definition of hypergamy and yet slings the term around. And it is interesting that so many of you have invented it meaning that women are constantly on the prowl for bigger better men and that even…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:21 AM
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Lmao. It was legendary while it lasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:17 AM
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Close. We're struggling with finding a housing situation in this shit economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:17 AM
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That's not what hypergamy definitionally is. So why do you think it is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:16 AM
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Closer, but still definitionally incomplete and lacking. Why do you think that's what it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:15 AM
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Which would still be an incomplete and lacking definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:14 AM
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I mean I get it kind of. I've def encountered dudes that I didn't do anything with, but had a way of talking about sex like it was going to be a parade of humiliations and degradations for me that I had to submit to. (Thus their not going very far). But still.This is why we can't have nice things. If you're lucky enough to be attracted to someone enough they wanna bed you, unless it really just isn't their thing, you treat them like a bag of tootsie pops you're damned and determined to lick and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:32 AM
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So.. that's not what hypergamy is definitionally. Why do you think that's what it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:22 AM
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A lady never tells, sir. But yes, I did find a man better than all the men I've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:21 AM
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Yeah, I dunno if these dudes aren't doing it right or aren't doing it at all, but i don't think anyone has ever gone down on someone and thought, "gee, I'm really in the weak position right now".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:20 AM
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Out of curiosity, Can you give me a definition of hypergamy? And can you tell me what you think the red pill says about female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:36 AM
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It wasn't hard to find a better man for me or most women. Most of our early boyfriends sucked. So much that it would be difficult to select one stand out good quality as you've done. Most of our process is honing in on the things we actually want and learning what a good personality looks like and figuring out if we can of can't do distance and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:31 AM
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Dude, this is just being honest about the state of casual sex for women. We aren't likely to orgasm, there's a good chance the dude is gonna do something out of pocket and degrading, like, if you want to be dicked down well, you get a boyfriend who shows good potential and listening skills. You don't go have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:29 AM
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You're a hero for this statement. I cracked so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:25 AM
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Oh, for sure. Dudes who think they're in charge during oral are stupid. I own my man during oral. I'm friendly, so I just flirt, but we all know we could have them on their knees begging just for a brush of the lips.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:23 AM
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No, I can't say I've ever thought that even for a second. I doubt any woman has. But anyone who knows jiu jitsu knows that position is dangerously close to a double under pass for guard based on pressure and patience. Which means far from being submissive, it's a way to progress to a significantly more dominant position and it's difficult to stop if the angle and pressure are exploded into. And that's just if you're bad at it. If you're good at it, one wonders how you're meant to recapture guard…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:22 AM
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I'm not sure statistically speaking one has to say yes and if they do that they'll actually follow through on it. Or that if he does go on the date either of them will actually like each other and be compatible. It's just blind stabbing in the dark in chaos in a void of any discernable deduction or rational. It's like saying if you lay down and scream someone may date you. Like maybe, but how likely is it to work out even if one does agree to go out and actually shows? The advice about finding n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:42 AM
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You could be choosy and still have a lot of men. A harem of chads so to speak. Men who offer different kinds of utility. Again, I think people just never think this thing through because they assume women just wouldn't for no reason. But women cheat and change partners almost as much as men. So something is going on. And it's true we aren't symmetrical, but women could much more easily have harems than men can. We can absolutely violate innate biological drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:35 PM
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Oh! Ok. I thought it was any acquatic pet. I have a man, but it was gonna crack me up if having a beta fish was a non starter for dudes. Lmao. Hey, fair enough. For me, that movie is barely a movie, it was one of the worst filmed and most egregiously written and acted movies I've ever seen. I cannot believe anyone thinks it's cool or badass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:33 PM
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How do you feel about beta fish? No, but seriously, I can't actually think of something that leaps right out at me. I know if people express liking the movie Titanic or Scarface we wouldn't even be friends, so I guess that's on my list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:30 PM
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That's a very busy and interesting area.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:10 PM
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1000%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:08 PM
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I think that's true of all people, not just women. If they'll share you, it's because you are not that important or prized to them. You're just the book on the shelf they're currently reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:26 PM
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North East and USA. And it's an Australianism for like "no problems, no worries".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:25 PM
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I'm big on consequences for actions and those consequences being clearly outlined ahead of time. Everyone makes entry level mistakes. Who hasn't hit on a taken person not realizing they were taken or maybe gotten to close to someone not realizing it was making their partner a little uncomfortable. But if you cannot clear out and respect boundaries once you've been made aware of the rules...yeah, I've got a to do list and I check it twice and if you cannot be decent, I've never been someone who f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:05 PM
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Unsurprisingly, I've also never cheated or been cheated on. I'm pretty clear with people early on when we get together, "if this isn't what you want anymore, sit down with me, have an adult conversation, and it will be over no wukkas. If you cheat, there will be many wukkas." I have rolled my eyes before much like your fiance. I'm not about to go make a scene, I'll probably eventually walk over. I've never had to go as far as I'm willing because most people are good people who respect when someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:01 PM
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I think perhaps you shouldn't use lab mice as your grounds for judging human interaction, especially human interaction as complicated and mystifying as love. I also think your understanding of crude male libido betrays not paying attention to female drives, which are served just as well by having multiple mates and a diverse gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:37 PM
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I'm a possessive person. I'm fine with my man noticing other women, talking to them, having platonic relationships, even flirting etc. Don't rub it in my face, I don't need to hear about it or have it told to me. So long as no one is crossing any boundaries or being inappropriate, live and let live, it doesn't irritate me in the slightest. I'm happy he's happy and free, so long as we both know we're it for each other and everything else is just friendship or enjoying light flirting. If someone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:33 PM
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Yes, the problem isn't insecurity however. It's how they're choosing to face that insecurity (or rather not face it). It isn't interesting really to observe this all stems from insecurity. The interesting observation is that the way they are going about addressing it actually prolongs their own torment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:24 PM
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You're assuming childfree men are also going to be "high value" or that in order to be perceived that way by a woman, it must actually be true and he would be aware of it. This is not actually the case on any front. You're also assuming all men want to fuck around aimlessly constantly. That's also not the case. You're also assuming that if a man is interested in commitment and monogamy, he must also want children. This isn't the case. If you want an easy example, one of my cousins and his wife a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:19 PM
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That woman is a lunatic and/or her marriage isn't very happy. Most women, myself included, don't like sharing. If someone tries to make me share, I'm going to claw their eyes out or pack my shit and use those walking boots. And no, I'm not turned on by a man cheating on me. A man cheating on me is him volunteering to be my pet revenge project after I finish clawing his eyes out. Nothing could be more disgusting and off-putting. Seriously, spiders in the bedroom stand a higher chance to get a dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:15 PM
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https://youtu.be/6a8W3nqc17Q?si=xjZLowkCyofUygBf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:49 PM
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Under mid to late 20s, be pretty cool if you didn't. Over 30, have a ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:25 AM
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According to a very reliable source...it is a thing! 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:22 AM
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Lmao. Fucking on fake mother graves is the new meta. Gravemaxxing!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:53 AM
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Totally believe in it. I also hate to be that guy, but until you've been in it, it's almost impossible to truly describe perfectly such as to articulate it so someone else could believe in it. There's lots of times you think you're in love, and then when you meet the right person, you realize that wasn't love, it wasn't anything. Those are the romances that break and disappear or become memory. We're not still smitten, we're more smitten with each other every day. My aging or his is only deepeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:40 AM
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1. You aren't every redditor. When they describe women never being interested, giving them no signs, always turning them down, and so forth, we're sort of forced to assume they're some combo of ugly and/or unlovable. Because normal humans who look and act normal tend to have at least a little interest from the opposite sex. 2. I think lots of fuckbois are red pilled because they're only really attracting a certain kind of woman. And they're in a feedback loop of sex being good enough and motivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:27 AM
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OMG, that's exactly the tone too. I can't unsee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:20 PM
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Humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:41 PM
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It's too good to be real. And I agree, if he had some sort of bite sized podcast just weaving a yarn every day, I'd tune in. I suppose I do. But if he had some sort of velvet deep masculine voice to go with it, 10/10, would stream on all platforms. Tell us more about passionately making love on your fake mother's grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:40 PM
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Yeah...that's one way to read it. Another is that the main character's rage at Marla and feelings towards Tyler are caused by closeted homosexuality. And that Tyler Durden is essentially the pressures the main character feels to be straight. And the reason so many men have connected with this work is that they too feel very divided by the pressures of straightness and not living up to that image. And no, women don't read as badly because we tend to choose more passive aggressive/agreeable langua…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:39 PM
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All the time. Look for any gay male comedian. They almost all make jokes about women being lovable, but gross. Something women basically enjoy in their gay besties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:31 PM
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As someone who can cook, it's not super simple to learn to cook healthy. Especially if no one has ever set an example of how to do that for you. Yes, we all should learn, but this is actually closer to rocket science to make such a substantial lifestyle change to. You've gotta have that modeled to you and have the tools and the know how. It's not super simple. I'm trying to teach a dude at my gym how to cook who is trying to get healthy and the things I would never even think of as problems that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:13 PM
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The only way any preference is a problem is if: It is expressed in a cruel way. It is predatory. It is a clear cut case of hypocrisy. So take your 100 men woman and run it against this. No, it doesn't seem to be expressed cruel. It seems like an orange flag for predatory, I'd need more info. It seems like an orange flag for hypocrisy, I'd need more info. Same for the dudes who are like this btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:29 PM
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The only way any preference is a problem is if: It is expressed in a cruel way. It is predatory. It is a clear cut case of hypocrisy. So take your 100 men woman and run it against this. No, it doesn't seem to be expressed cruel. It seems like an orange flag for predatory, I'd need more info. It seems like an orange flag for hypocrisy, I'd need more info. Same for the dudes who are like this btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:29 PM
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No, I'm saying it's not a dimorphic trait and isn't necessarily clear cut hypocrisy as people want to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:27 PM
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At no point do I truly disagree. I think there's nuance to it, but mostly I agree. That really isn't the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:25 PM
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Dude, I agree that people with experience will pair up with people of low experience. That's a point I make elsewhere. Reality doesn't function on theory so much. But, if you're asking why the shaming is there at all, those three reasons I gave are why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:17 PM
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So cultural is not a dimorphic trait. So it is up for shaming if you: Are an asshole about it. Are a hypocrite about it. Are a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:05 PM
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I've given clear explanations which are moving down the list from pure theory to reality. I realize at every level men aren't going to like what I have to say because the reality is that whether we're discussing pure theory or reality using three categories that are causing shaming of their standards, most men are fucking up in one way or another that gets them judged. I'd say it is your disagreeable personality traits, but again for those actually listening: Don't be an asshole Don't be a hypoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:05 PM
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A: Lots of people say they want one thing, what they go for in reality is probably more important. And most men I see aren't chasing modest women. They like the concept more than the reality. And most women I see are not chasing horn dog men, they're being chased by horn dog men. Most people ultimately choose someone of a similar level to themselves for a vast array of reasons and most genuinely want that. B: Can you demonstrate to me that they actually say they want horn dogs? Because my experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:00 PM
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A: The weight issue is typically one of cruelty, not of hypocrisy at least on first blush. B: When you dig deeper, the hypocrisy often becomes slightly more apparent in that these men are not often particularly fit or eating well or disciplined, they're just lucky enough not to have had that catch up with them yet despite no real actions of their own and they're generally ignoring that a lot of the women they're judging are trying in ways they are not, but their bodies aren't built to lose weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:55 PM
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Didn't say it was genetic. Nor am I even sure it's entirely biological. I think it's far too complicated a web of nature and nurture to be sure exactly where this attraction to dimorphic traits comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:50 PM
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I wouldn't say genetic nor am I purely appealing to nature, no. I am saying that humans value that which is dimorphic about the gender opposite theirs. It isn't that height or big titties are the thing exactly (although they are a component), the thing being appreciated is the otherness/contrast. Could it be possible to alter this, I don't think so, but I'm intellectually open to the idea we can sway generationally what is associated with say masculinity and femininity to some extent. I think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:49 PM
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What do you mean by ok? Sure, it's allowed. Sure, it could even be a happy relationship. Could it have an air of hypocrisy to it? Absolutely. It would entirely depend on the line of reasoning, similar to the flip. It's not like, not ok to marry someone with different sexual history than yourself. It's just suspect if you're focused on that and don't meet your own standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:42 PM
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This. I know a pretty girl married to a Burger King manager. And she got with him when he was a Burger King peon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:29 PM
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