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Yeah, this.Because even in TRP there's often a marked difference between what the advice says and how a certain vocal subset interpret the advice. The most active people on TRP/FDS who talk about constantly queens/alphas and give the most extreme advice are often the least successful in applying the principles. The subs are the blind leading the blind, combined with said blind leaders really needing therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:47 AM
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For me yes, monogamy is important. But it depends on the people, I know some who can get by on open relationships etc, but for me, no way. My girlfriend is bisexual, and even the thought of a threesone with another woman is a no no to me. Can't really explain it in words, but safe would probably be the closest. There's elements of passion and desire, but really it's just that feeling of safety. Not too different from the feeling you get when you're with a best friend, just stronger. It's a mixtu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:23 AM
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Because they're often the most basic normie girls. People who are actually different don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops. If I meet someone who feels the need to drop it into conversation how different they are, I cringe hard, then I excuse myself and run for the hills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 08:41 PM
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I think this article goes into it quite well. https://medium.com/@mdaum213/metoo-will-not-survive-unless-we-recognize-toxic-femininity-6e82704ee616 I would say some of her examples are extreme, but many aren't. But as a general start its correct, there are a lot of women out there who are perfectly happy to use emotional and sexual manipulation to get what they want from men, or get men to do things for them. Its harmful to society, and actually, I'd say undermines equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 10:13 AM
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To a point yes, because context is often missing. The written word is pretty terrible at conveying things such as emotion or for lack if a better term, vibe. It's not even great at the normal things like what you 0see, hear, etc. Things such as love, experiences on psychedelics etc are so difficult to explain with words. As an example I met a woman recently who was the persona of the feminist left wing types often talked about online. If her words were just on a page it would make me angry, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:17 AM
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Part this and partly they're not as interesting as they think they are. A 10/10 guy who is boring and has no interests will get more opportunities by doing zilch for sex and more relationships than a 6. That's life. But theres a lot of average or below average dudes who manage to get good looking women. Because they have interests, and they're not fucking needy. They're not desperate for female approval. Most whinging I see online from men and women about dating is effectively neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:57 AM
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That's extreme arrogance to assume you know what men in general feel, based on a small sample size of those you've actually talked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 04:18 PM
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Then its harassment plain and simple, whether he doesnt get it (lesser evil, and socially awkward, though he should learn social skills) or deliberately carries on (definitely harassment, and makes him one of the assholes who has all men labelled as rapists etc) As for the second. It's not billshit to me. I have a lot of women friends and they've all told me that. But it depends on what you consider hit on tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:41 PM
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Where he would show a lack of social awareness would be if he clearly didn't get a hint she wasn't interested. As for the rest it depends. If the girl is really top drawer in physique she might be getting hit on less than you think. A lot of guys clam up hardcore when it comes to top tier celebrity style looks girls even good looking ones. Confidence is sexy to women, and has been shown to even bump up mens looks when evaluated together. Theres also a chance actually that most other guys or girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:09 PM
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Yeah exactly. I think the people who get over the anger phase just dont post any more there. Especially because the few times I've seen people who move past it post they get ripped on as a bp chump or whatever. They're incapable of seeing that this unceasing rage at the world is unhealthy to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 08:00 AM
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Women were told that lifting heavy weights would make them butch or manly by the fitness industry for years. It's only fairly recently that changed and many realized that adding weight training under similar principles as men could actually accentuate their curves not destroy them. The rest is similar to men. Those areas can be intimidating at first, and because they're often filled with annoying dude bros means many avoid them. Men just deal with the nonsense attached to those areas better than…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:00 PM
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The middle east. Jk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 11:29 AM
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I'm the same really. I've been lucky to have a lot of women as friends from childhood, and now to have an amazing girlfriend. I'd say this sub has just made me feel happier in my life. I couldn't live with the distrust and even disdain many posters here show of the opposite sex and the issues they have. I guess seeing your other replies the only difference is this stuffs made me really anti political. I just don't feel either side is any good any more. The thread last night about emotional abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 11:39 AM
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Haha you're like my girlfriend. She often finds many, not all, the womens posts on this sub horrible, and can't understand why many of them cant see their own hypocrisy. Their responses effectively boil down to "fuck how you feel we can do what we want." But they go mad at TRP which is the same response, except for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:49 AM
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True, but then obviously then the reverse is true as well, no? That same Joe Shmo isn't responsible for the deal women have had in the past. Yet men are routinely blamed carte blanche for the thousands of generations before them that maybe didnt treat women that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:55 PM
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As my girlfriend often says when I've spoken about it. Most men are fine and don't have to worry, some men are horrid and won't take no for an answer. Most women are fine, some women are horrid and will see harassment in everything including a simple hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:21 PM
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I'd also say the world is less safe now at least in perception than the 30s, partly because we are inundated with a 24 hour horror show called the news. Parents now seem to have a lot more to worry about compared to back then in terms of threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 09:12 AM
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You have to remember the brain often tricks us into thinking things are easier and rewrites things later on. Everything you do for your child is more rewarding compared to a job. You remember all the important stages of your child's life you saw and were part of more than the running around cleaning up, being woken in the middle if the night, etc. Hence being around your kids is definitely seen as easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 09:06 AM
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I think you're missing the psychological aspect as well though. A lot of stay at home parents are really starved of adult conversation and support, and that can be the most trying side of things. I was told this and felt this a lot when I had to call clients, and the only one I often could reliably get hold of was the stay at home parent. They'd be hard to get off the phone most of the time, as they really, really wanted to talk to an adult, and their spouse was usually too tired to talk much af…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 08:36 AM
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Part of it's a grass is greener thing. Men often think women had it easier traditionally, whilst women think men did. It's an expectations vs reality thing. Both sides look at the other with rose tinted glasses. Only a small percentage of people, men or women, really want to wake at ridiculous o'clock every morning to work, as most don't like their jobs. They'd much rather stay home or spend time with their kids. A lot of it isnt even a gender thing any more. Many women working corporate jobs al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:17 PM
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Hah, they're quoting the newspaper of the place I grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:18 PM
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It's impossible to know the true rate of false accusations. The 2-10% (not less than 2%)figure is cases that are undeniably false. People misread that, same as someone can misread a 1% conviction rate as 99% of accusations being false. It's hard to get true figures because of the way the criminal justice system works. As for the naming and shaming, everyone loves a nice witch hunt, until they're the witch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:16 PM
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I think it's more the judge jury and executioner role social media and public naming of the accused. Best thing ever for a vindictive woman now is to just accuse a guy they don't like of raping them publically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:39 PM
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If I knew for sure I'd leave her, never speak to her again except through lawyers, try to minimize any financial obligations I'd have and cut the kid or kids out of my life for my own mental health. Seeing them would bring back the betrayal and sticking around would just lead to bad times for me and them, as I'd likely resent them. It's not great, I know, but it'd be better all round long term in a situation in which there's no way the kids won't get screwed in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:52 PM
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It's the point of our existence on a primal level. Humans can find other meanings for their lives, but you can't turn off billions of years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:41 PM
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It's a common theme at Christmas. Dogs and Cats all dressed up, looking pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:51 PM
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I think so yeah. A lot of people like this exist in the world as well, which is the scary thing actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:16 PM
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Well, if your core values are so easily swayed by learning more that's distributing. I'd agree with the main body of your post, but not this. You even contradict it yourself here. Why would you want to be with someone who refuses to change? My view is everything should be subject to change in healthy human beings, even core values, especially if you feel those values were based on a flawed premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:39 AM
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The post body is what TRPers mean when they refer to TBP, as in the whole men are shit women are perfect narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:19 AM
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Dudes probably spent way too much time on porn sites or cuckold fetish blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:05 PM
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Yeah this. I was raised to keep things tidy, so I do. My girlfriend was raised the same, and she does as well. We've never even talked about it we just do it. I think the reason breakups happen is people are too focussed on having a 50/50 split all the time, cleaning schedules or one partner is OCD about it. It often is making an absolute mountain out of a mole hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 06:16 PM
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She makes a less than me now in her job, but when we first dated she made a lot more as she had a different career. But her hours are pretty varied, sometimes mornings sometimes evening as she works a shift pattern with others. She has a lot of savings, stock and investments though thanks to pay from her old jobs. My policy on housework split is to not really over think it. Like with anything in life you can drive yourself crazy thinking how much you do compared to others., and it'll only cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 05:09 PM
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We usually just do it that first person home cooks the food. It wasn't agreed it was just something we fell into. It works out well with our schedules as who is first changes based on our work schedules. The person who didn't cook cleans up. For cleaning in general we haven't had to focus on that yet as we're in Asia and live in a serviced apartment. But knowing her as I have for years, and knowing my own liking for a clean space we'd both just pitch in. Even just to blitz it all once a week tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 03:45 PM
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You'd be better off using the Big 5 (OCEAN) test then. At least that was created by actual academic researchers. Though even that's not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:05 PM
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I've told people on this sub what I do. It's not a secret. But yeah, great talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:47 PM
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Isn't this personality type thing routinely acknowledged as a heaping pile of shite even by the people who made it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:45 PM
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Lol sure I'm going to spend my day looking through linkedin just to prove a guy on reddit wrong. I've worked in finance for 13 years, FYI. I can't speak for the US, but I know employers in the UK factor in more than a degree in hiring decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:31 PM
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You really have no idea. I shouldn't have to and won't show you LinkedIn people I know, as that's a breach of privacy. As for the rest, about as stupid as a grown up who still uses the word 'dummy',doesn't realize there's plenty of formal education you can get in these things without degrees, doesn't think companies offer that education to people who work for them, and thinks admins or assistants learn nothing about the roles they are assisting, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:07 PM
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Sure, you keep believing that. A person who has worked doing admin in that office for 5 years, knows the company culture, knows the way people around him or her work, knows the people they'll be working with and has studied in their own time to get job specific qualifications easily get an Analyst position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:57 PM
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If you think Citi, Barclays, HSBC, RBC and Deutsche Bank are low end retail banks, then fine. You can absolutely start small in those places, take on the job training and qualifications and move into investment banking positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:42 PM
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That's bullshit, at least in the UK. There are loads of people I know within all sectors of banking that don't have a degree at all, but have qualifications from within the financial sector that when combined may as well be one, or they have a nonsense degree that has no relation to their field of work from an average school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 09:59 AM
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Yeah as a Brit it's all in your taxes. It can also lead to other problems as well, like long wait times for appointments, lack of access to some drugs due to cost etc. The whole system is underfunded and suffers large backlogs. Many people with decent jobs either get private insurance included in their employment package or pay for it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:09 AM
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A lot of banks will offer to sub you for other well respected and field specific qualifications as well. Banking is one of those sectors I'd say a degree is nice but not the be all and end all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:38 PM
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I had it only once about a year ago in London. A girl on tinder laid it right out that she wanted sex as soon as we matched, she was alone on business in a hotel and horny. She was hot and everything, and we did meet, but it killed it performance wise for me. All the anxieties and thoughts in my head regarding scams, crimes, consent etc in the build up on tinder and the way over there just killed my desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't even say those men are actually MGTOW. They might identify as such but they're really just the equivalent of permanent anger phasers in TRP. Actual MGTOW to me anyway is someone who has all the skills and the ability to get laid but simply decides he doesn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:04 PM
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Of course Americans have to pay US tax even if they're living in shithole Uganda. lol. FATCA. So annoying, I used to hate it in my old job. The IRS is so anal when it comes to the forms as well. I feel sorry for Americans Expats in general, two sets of income tax, limited investing opportunities etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 11:11 AM
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If the guys more attractive than them it's probably a bit of insecurity that makes them say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:10 PM
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In some countries that's a pretty normal attitude. Like in France where attitudes to adultery are a bit more relaxed, provided you don't rub your partners nose in it, or do anything that might risk your partners reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:07 PM
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Have you tried reducing the weight for a few weeks? Reloading is one of the best ways to break plateaus. You could also try and focus on other muscle groups that can impair progress. Weak traps or triceps can screw over your bench press, with triceps being a common one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:21 PM
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Oh definitely, especially if theyre jaded on the app. I guess my point would be the Bumble thing is just a gimmick where they told people it put pressure on the women to engage with the men and pique their interest. But the reality was due to how humans date, after the Hi from her it's back on the men to court her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:27 AM
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I find that harder to judge. My biggest issue with Bumble when i used it was thr 24 hours to send a message thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:15 AM
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If you mean say hi and put it all back on men, yes, yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:54 AM
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True. Women kill less than men. But in general beyond the commiting of crimes. We all like to think behind every good man is a good woman. I think that the opposite is likely true as well is uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:35 PM
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Not really. I think women are as capable of senseless violence as men. I think society likes to think they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:09 AM
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Which goes with what I'm saying. People assume things about women committing violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:43 AM
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South
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:28 AM
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At the time the UK. You drunk pints, bottled beer (But not bud), classic ciders, snakebite or any mixer except one involving gin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:25 PM
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In a way but they don't diminish his crimes. If a man kills a woman he's a monster despite any issues he may have or justifications he might say. If a woman kills a man the portrayal is rather more forgiving and her reasoning given more weight and column inches. I always look at Myra Hindley for the Moors murders and just how much time and effort gets spent even 50 years on trying to explain why she was involved. No one questions him nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:37 PM
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Probably also because society doesn't seem to deal well with women as perpetrators. Women committing murder doesn't sit well on a societal scale and the media make more attempts to explain away her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:11 PM
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When I went through my sweet and fruity cider phase where I preferred Rekorderlig etc I got asked by women if I was gay quite often. Never happens with beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 02:46 PM
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Some of them do make excuses for the poor behaviour of some Muslim migrants in Europe though. I know that draws the ire of a lot of people, including my girlfriend. Telling western women to cover up to avoid issues, making cultural and trauma excuses when some of them rape or grope women etc. Some of them are definitely hypocritical and even abandon their own message when it comes to problems involving other cultures within Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:44 AM
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The 6-7 in this case. Someone who is a 10 who has slept with 100s has issues. That's a really high notch count, way above normal, and even beyond that number she'd have issues with needing loads of validation and probably an inability to say no and likely other deeper stuff. She's crossed into village bicycle territory. To me she'd just be too much stress, both in constant vigilance when out and dealing with any issues she had as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 08:10 PM
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Society lies to women like it does to men. Culture is full of examples of women sleeping around, having fun doing it and then finding 'the one' who knows and has no problem with it. See Pretty Woman. It's not too dissimilar to the claims TRP makes about cultural lies told to men. Be nice, be kind, be courteous, be chivalrous, don't be too aggressive in advances etc and women will love it. Culture through TV etc is what we want society to be like. But it isn't like that, and due to human nature u…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:26 AM
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Appeals for the Trumps sounds interesting. Basically feeding my inner child with loads of 'nuh-uh', 'your mom', ' no you started it!' and other childish insults and terms cased in legal jargon. I guess my dream job would be as a record producer. Not now though, in the 60s or 70s up to the 90s, before record companies condensed music into a basic 4/4 beat, synth, with a mundane rap and an autotuned to hell female vocal. Now it'd be boring and regimented, no real experimentation or deviation. Now …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:53 PM
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In a career sense? Exploit the hell out of it. Always find subtle ways to let your superiors know you're doing someone else's work, and never do anyone else's work when your own isn't done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:32 AM
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Yeah I was the same. Got to the stage I preferred to just jerk off rather than date a woman I had nothing in common with just for sex. For me it even got to that with ONS, the idea of having to pretend to be oh so enthralled with what an attractive but uninteresting (to me) girl had to say even for a few hours just to get my dick wet was a nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:22 PM
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Great post. As an example of what you're talking about my girlfriend's friend said in a bar once about how the good guys or guys who think she's out of his league drive women into the arms of assholes by not approaching women, and how women want to date the decent, respectful guy. It seems like a great statement. Approach those models average Joe. But then as I thought about it I realized it was only half truth. There's other qualifiers such as the man's looks, she's talking about good looking g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 12:18 PM
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There's a far number of documentary programs on TV now that pretty much show MGTOWS as well. Programs like Life Below Zero, New Lives In the Wild etc. Disproportionataly the people are men. Into the Wild is another quite famous book/movie based on a true story. Some of the guys on those programs left society early, and have lived that life for years, and openly speak about how they didn't feel they fit into society. Those guys all strike me as pretty MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:09 AM
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I think it depends. Your sense of humour for example might be dark, or situational. That's hard to put across in text or photos. If you're a guy who can write a joke, sure, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 05:45 PM
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I'd probably realize she's 4 months pregnant so hitting her isn't the best idea, and that pregnant women don't always act rationally. The only time I'd hit her is if she'd hit me repeatedly with her hands or thrown an object that could do actual damage and landed. Cardboard is nothing. But that whole situation was avoidable by both sides. He should have stopped playing a fucking video game and gone to eat dinner with his family, which is what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:09 PM
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On your question at the end. Most men simply don't know how to look great in photos or which photos hamper their chances. I think the likelihood is most men's photos on OLD are more true to life than women's, and also there's a possibility you might look a bit better. It's something a lot of women I know have said when on tinder in my smallish home town. That they know the guy irl, see him on tinder and find his photos make him look worse, or don't look like him at all. Another thing, and I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:27 PM
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Because most people dont know. It's marketed so well for tourism. It also pays ridiculously good wages to people like engineers,financiers, lawyers etc. It sells a facade and an amazing life style, to the point many Europeans even on the left hold the UAE up as an example of what a Sunni Muslim society could be, in contrast to Saudi Arabia. But it's all smoke and mirrors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:21 PM
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Pretty much every Western Country does. Some of these guys are stuck in the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:09 AM
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I like Camille Paglia. But 4 years of "okaaay" is about 3 years and 11 months beyond its novelty value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:23 PM
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Even for men as well it's just a fantasy. Stories abound online of how the reality is something the men who had the fantasy themselves hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:11 PM
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Not to mention the self esteem hit if she jumped at the chance too readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:09 PM
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I checked Wikipedia and the sources to back it (UN and EU so pretty reliable, and the numbers are correct), the average gap is about 2-3 years, so we're both wrong lol. But which is more common is irrelevant to me apart from that I see both all the time, and I know if a 40 year old man dated a 25 year old no one would care. Same with vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:04 PM
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Both are quite common in my experience, I do know that first marriage ages in Europe indicate the men being 3-5 years older than the woman is normal on average. Also seeing as that's an average you can extrapolate that a large number had bigger age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:11 PM
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I agred to a point. But i think its normal that both sexes care a bit about the others preferences, even for purely selfish reasons. But yeah, in general most men don't give a fuck if a girl only likes Black guys, and most women don't care if a guy doesn't find Asian women attractive etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:20 PM
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I was raised seeing my mother doing much of the housework despite wotking herself and seeing the resentments brewing on the back of that. So I've consciously made efforts to not be like that and to do things myself. I think actually being single for a while, living on my own and then living with friends who were slobs helped instill A sort of pull your weight mentality. My girlfriend and I have an equitable relationship, though as she's got more money than me I actually struggle to get her to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:12 PM
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Lol, I meant it's a spherical obloid is known in science circles, that the Earth is not round. But it's not a fact as Science has none. If evidence to the contrary came out tomorrow, scientists would change their mind. Smoking causing cancer is not Science, it's a statement by others who misread the studies or decide to use definitive based on consensus. Which you can do, but it's not a scientific statement. Smoking increases risk of cancer, same as other things, such as excess red meat consumpt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:07 PM
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Ya read the part I quoted again Read the actual study. I've read the quote then read the study itself. And you know that how? I know that because the earth is not round. It's a spherical obloid. That's science. Scientists know that. I said that more as its better advice that's better supported than your claim is. Advice that was already covered in the post I was responding to. I simply added tips that have backing that helped me lose weight. You took issue with that and made it out I was denying…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:56 AM
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When I was in my teens I was in a shit relationship which now I see as abusive (rampant cheating on me, putting me down etc) and she actually attacked me physically when eventually I grew a spine after talking to the parents of one of my closest girl friends, and broke it off. I guess I stayed because she pretty much gave me a scarcity mentality just from her put downs. My self esteem was in the toilet, and because I was young and it was my first relationship, and my parents and her parents rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:53 AM
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No such thing as too much time in a sauna.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:43 AM
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Write a study. For Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:40 AM
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Finland is kind of European tbh. Most of the people on this sub who deny the age thing are Americans. In Europe age disparities aren't as looked down on in my experience, and you see it a lot. I'm not talking about 40 year old guys dating 18 year olds, but a 30 year old and a 20 year old? Pretty normal. I know loads of couples with a 5-10 year age gap between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:39 AM
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Thread idea- Women, would you allow a Harvey Weinstein sex bot to touch you up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:34 AM
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Read the smoking study. It doesn't say does, it uses words such as predictive, strongly linked, or more likely, may and even could. If you listen to the media and governments it causes cancer. Is smoking bad? Yeah, its had too many studies with similar results. In Science it's still the same wording as always. Same with excess sugar consumption and weight gain etc. If someone wants to nitpick science it's easy. If you like eating in front of the tv or whilst on your phone, you can easily pull ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:31 AM
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You're arguing over semantics and word definition. That's common scientific language even used when talking about things widely accepted as bad for you such as smoking. No studies say smoking causes anything definitively. Governments say it, the media says it. All the studies say may or could or might. Science doesn't declare facts, no matter the evidence. In anything. Eating healthy is the best way, but then science disagrees on what is healthy. Not to mention all those studies link distraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:25 PM
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You're arguing over semantics and word definition. That's common scientific language even used when talking about things widely accepted as bad for you such as smoking. No studies say smoking causes anything definitively. Governments say it, the media says it. All the studies say may or could or might. Science doesn't declare facts, no matter the evidence. In anything. Eating healthy is the best way, but then science disagrees on what is healthy. Not to mention all those studies link distraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:23 PM
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You're arguing over semantics and word definition. That's common scientific language even used when talking about things widely accepted as bad for you such as smoking. No studies say smoking causes anything definitively. Governments say it, the media says it. All the studies say may or could or might. Science doesn't declare facts, no matter the evidence. In anything. Eating healthy is the best way, but then science disagrees on what is healthy. Not to mention all those studies link distraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:23 PM
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Yes may. Science doesn't use definitive. As to no other studies.... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2596580/ A study on kids. Conclusion - To promote self-regulation of energy intake in young children, parents and caregivers should be advised against providing opportunities for children to eat during TV viewing. https://www.surrey.ac.uk/mediacentre/press/2015/eating-‘-go’-leads-weight-gain-new-research-finds The results showed that dieters ate more snacks at the taste test if they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:38 PM
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That's something cultural that's come from South Korea which has spread around Asia a lot. But it's not entirely to look more like white people. A lot of them simply want to keep their skin pale because culturally pale skin has been seen as a sign of affluence for centuries. Same with the plastic surgery,it's often a way to look like the idealized historical view in their culture of what women looked like. When you look at ancient drawings if women throughout Asia they often have more Caucasian …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 11:38 AM
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https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/distracted-eating-may-add-to-weight-gain-201303296037
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:40 AM
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I wouldn't even know where to start. In what context? I'm also wary of playing up to stereotypes in that sense. I' will say In my team in Asia I love that the Asian women care about colleagues beyond what they might get out of it, cooperate more, and in general stay out of the macho posturing that's so common in offices I found, particularly in Europe. My best team member is actually a woman and I had her in mind when I wrote the initial post. She exceeds every target, is always sociable, availa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:06 AM
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I think men do respect womanhood. Going on what you're saying I'd say men just don't respect women who act like men, or show behaviours men don't like in other men. The issue is for a long time men have been told to judge women as we judge men at work. We're all the same, don't treat her any differently. Well, hate to say it but a lot of behaviours that are normal for women are seen as negatives in men when looked at by other men. The Google Memo is another example. Littered with examples on men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:34 PM
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Great post. Only things I'd add as a former obese guy - Try not to have the TV on or your phone near you as you eat. Sounds silly but distractions actually cause you to eat more. If your family is one of those who puts all the food on the table and allows you to serve yourself. Try and stop going for seconds. Load up a plate full and when you're done ask if you can leave. If your family understands you want to lose weight it shouldn't be a problem. Seriously, that helped me a lot. Think about Xm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:06 PM
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Oh she definitely dealt with it better than me. Then again she like most women has experience with it. I guess for me like most guys actually encountering it first hand is rare. Usually just by being there you kind of deter creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:31 PM
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I think you're extrapolating huge things out of it to make a generic point. She was tired, she'd been working all day from 6am till 7pm, and because of a meeting overruning at my work she'd been left to rush around packing things on her own. The flight left at midnight. All she wanted to do was sleep, and this guy harassed her, made crude remarks and wouldn't let her sleep, poking and nudging her awake to talk constantly, on a 7 hour flight. Hence she said to me, laughing as she said it she thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:04 PM
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Wasn't really quick at least for her. The thought crossed her mind towards the end of the flight she said. The flight was 7 hours. 7 hours of continuous harassment, not allowing her to sleep etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:00 PM
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It wasn't. The best we managed was swapping seats ourselves. Originally she had the window, he was on the middle and I had the aisle. We swapped early on, mostly because I felt at least being on an aisle has more visibility, making him less likely to grope at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:53 PM
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Neither would I. Since I read about a lot of the stuff I struck it off as a place to visit or stay for any time in. Now it's just a layover stop, and an excuse to use Emirates because the alternatives are 2-3x as expensive and half as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:41 PM
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Meh. My view of this is yeah lying is shit. That said it's men like that guy that make everything that much harder for other men. I don't see it as a contradiction as to laugh off a lot of metoo stuff (as my gf does with it, In particular he celebrity stuff. Don't get her started on Jennifer Lawrence) and also acknowledging men like the one in the plane are shit and shouldn't be allowed to act that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:29 PM
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It was a layover on our way to the UK for Christmas. But Dubai is awesome if you just avoid any issues with the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:21 PM
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Well in this case it was more she was willing to lie to draw attention to it and try and extricate herself from a shit situation. With the knowledge that coming clean would lead to a reprimand and little else, especially as the crew could back both of us up on how he was. Yes she would be relying on the empathy of western police after metoo. But in this case I can understand it. Make no mistake though she would have owned up to it. If she didn't I would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:15 PM
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Yeah it's a tough situation. My thinking and why I held off from aggression was taking into account we were not heading to a European country, but to his home country where the likelihood due to the religious attitudes is we'd end up with the trouble, he'd just go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:00 PM
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Pretty much what my girlfriend did. She never responded to anything, put the headphones on and put on a movie etc. Didn't stop him though. He was clever about it, waiting for the cabin crew to be really close by then nudging her. She'd take off the headphones thinking maybe she'd missed the hostess asking her something, then he'd start in again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:56 AM
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I think it speaks volumes that you think women need 'saving'. Also note how you make no actual suggestions or solutions apart from to "have balls." Like what? I fight him, we end up in jail. Holidays ruined, and my girlfriend still in that situation but worse, she's in a jail in a country where women detainees are routinely sexually assaulted and some of the guards have a disturbing habit of losing western women prisoners before embassies find out (aka they sell them as slaves) But that's be oka…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:49 AM
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Haha, wish I'd thought of that. But agree that knowing my girlfriend how she'd react if i got violent or confrontational is the same. She'd have been more upset. For her knowing I was angry was enough, if I'd acted on it she'd have torn me a new one at first opportunity. As in no situation would getting violent or causing a huge argument make things better for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:37 AM
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Well we didn't really let it go on, and tried the swapping seats route, though maybe not as forcefully. My girlfriend said she considered the lying route, and would have if it was in a western country with a western destination. But dealing with a UAE national going to the UAE, and knowing the airline would report it to the police, and knowing cultural attitudes there (a country where a woman wearing leggings is 'asking for it' if she's raped, a woman has no voice if contradicted by a man etc) w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:30 AM
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Agree. That's the biggest problem with rape accusations today. They circumvent the normal system entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:23 AM
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I also knew by saying it I'd get the internet alphas all enraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:30 AM
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Don't know what world you live in. But most people I know still abide by innocent until proven guilty. Hence not being found guilty means you're seen as innocent. That is of course unless the guy/gal gets off purely on a technicality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:39 PM
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No, it's on the accuser or more specifically on the police and CPS. That's still the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:03 PM
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It's really not. Thousands of murder cases go to trial every year. A sizable percentage get a not guilty verdict. If your sentiment was common then everyone would be shit scared to leave the house for all the murderers on the loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:44 AM
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No other seats available, full flight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:37 AM
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One case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:12 AM
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Well at least they're doing something right. Everything else seems to be a shitshow right now and I'm saying that as a Brit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:18 AM
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My girlfriend just had the ultimate creeper on our flight. An Arab guy got sat inbetween us on a 3 seat berth. Not only did he refuse to switch, even when asked nicely by myself and the flight attendants, but he then continually asked her really awkward questions and made weird conversation throughout, even despite all her attempts to shut him down. "So, uh, does your boyfriend do it for you?" etc. Nudging her when she tried to watch a film or sleep. Asking her in depth things about our sex life…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:03 AM
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Hmm, i think they're prosecuted for false claims where the evidence generally points to it being false. But they're not prosecuted under some false rape claim charge. Often they're prosecuted for lying to the police etc. The only time we hear about false accusations being prosecuted though is in high profile cases or if the victim brings it to the media's attention. I know in the UK, at least according to one of my best friends who works in criminal law these cases are prosecuted as "wasting pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:42 AM
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No one has a problem with this standard with any other crime but rape though. It's only with rape that you see this thrown up consistently when people are found not guilty. If someone accused of murder is found not guilty you rarely see anyone saying "doesn't mean they didn't do it.!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:28 AM
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Well yeah, as I've established as a financial advisor their whole financial situation was a risk to begin with. Any two income household which is relying on one partners higher earnings to supplement their lifestyle is asking to be burned. A household where one earns 100k and the other 50k should be basing it's lifestyle on 100k maximum, not 150k etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 04:25 AM
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The reasonable option really isn't always right, and what's reasonable to one isn't always reasonable to the other. I mean to him telling him to stay in a job he despises isn't exactly reasonable. Telling him he can leave but only for the same money elsewhere isn't reasonable, at least in today's climate. They both took the view that their happiness was paramount over their partner in the end. Hence to me it's just a bad marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 02:58 AM
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It's 1 in every 2. You're not really betting on your lives either if it's done properly. As I've established with others. There are ways he could have given this a go without as much risk of tanking his financial situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 02:43 AM
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That's not even mentioning the girls who actually use their boyfriends as nothing more than live in photographers. Pretty much the equivalent of treating your girlfriend as nothing but holes to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:50 PM
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That's not even mentioning the girls who actually use their boyfriends as nothing more than live in photographers. Pretty much the equivalent of treating your girlfriend as nothing but holes to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:50 PM
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No no, she cares about the future and he doesn't. Let's say something happens to her that makes it so she can't work, he's not going to be able to support them. Let's say they get a divorce, he'll be so much worse off than before. And that's just the if's, his employment history is actually fucked. She cares about the future now? Funny. What if he had stayed at his job but got too sick to work himself, or he got laid off? She admits they need his money. She doesn't care about the future. She car…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:29 PM
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Nah https://www.facebook.com/100016650491607/posts/353598808538466/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:44 PM
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https://www.bls.gov/bdm/entrepreneurship/bdm_chart3.htm That does not show 70% and certainly not 4 in 5 within 5 years. In fact the dramatic falls all happen far later. Around 50%. Like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 01:24 PM
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I think it's closer to 50%. Depends on country. The reason most start-ups fail are entirely predictable and avoidable. https://www.cbinsights.com/research/startup-failure-reasons-top/ As to the experience etc part it depends on the field. If he's actually utilizing that experience and the network he's got in the field of his start-up, those can all work in his favour. That and in reality employers often don't see failed startups as the negative people assume. In fact it's far more risky to your …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:49 AM
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When you remove over extended industries that number drops a lot though. Things such as tech have lots of failed start-ups. But other fields have a lot higher success rates. It depends on the field he's entering, how ambitious they are, their target demographics etc. It's not really as simple as start up = failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:55 AM
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I think you're on to something here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:32 AM
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I'd question her having his best interests at heart. I think the disconnect here is she cares about "things" and he doesn't. I think loving someone is about loving more than their job, their pay packet and the car they've bought you. I also see a woman who by her own words isn't worried about the life "they" built, but is actually acknowledging it as a life he built for them, that he is now pulling the plug on. I can tell that by the statement she makes that he is earning the same as her in this…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:18 AM
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Which there's no guarantee will happen. Too many people treat self employment as an all or nothing game. Like you're a billionaire or a beggar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 07:28 AM
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Tell me about it. That and the people who basically use posts to get on their soap box and proselytize about their view on gender dynamics, usually using psychobabble to disguise what pretty much amounts to sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:56 AM
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Her being right, and she is, isn't the same thing as her making the decision for him. That's him being defiant for defiance sake. He's still wrong, but now he's also demonstrated he has the rationality of a three-year old. Her being right is debatable and subjective. What I got from reading the original post was that there was a complete communication breakdown them. Negative consequences like what though? She seemed to agree they can still meet their financial commitments on his new salary, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:21 AM
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My girlfriend had to pay 2x the premium I had to pay with the same company when we moved to Asia. When she queried it she got told she was of child bearing age and they pointed to studies which said women use medical services more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:05 AM
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Yeah agree with this. Only thing I'd add as a guy is the impression I got that she pretty much brow beat and nagged him into the agreement to begin with. Wouldn't even surprise me if she just made the decision and took him saying nothing as him agreeing to it. She feels she can't trust him. He feels she only cares about his happiness as long as he keeps a high pay check.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:51 AM
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Have to admit some of the comments are funny. Especially the one that removes the context and tries to make it all about him breaking the agreement. That's why the relationships sub is so funny. So many posters of both sexes who just ignore context and will always try to twist things to make the opposite sex the bad ones, no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:46 AM
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Less and less people are socially competent. Since smart phones became a thing it seems social skills, as in f2f interactions have declined. That trend seems to be showing no sign of stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:48 AM
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Norah Vincent, Self Made Man is the book. If any are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:13 PM
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Honestly, it's harder working with ugly/fat women imo. This for me. I find them more likely to be overbearing, rude and to have a huge chip 9n their shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:45 PM
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That's an argument in semantics. Whether he lets them go or allows them to go. A rapist wouldn't do either. It's just a word choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:07 PM
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That's not really my experience. Loads of women still go on trips, they just go solo, or with another woman, and if part of a group, equal numbers of each. The company isnt some old boys club either, i think 40-50% of the groups managers and directors are women. But what you're advising is in effect what happens, men stay in rooms with other men, and women with women. The companies own analysis showed a large number of complaints from both men and women came during trips when a man and a woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 06:55 AM
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Exactly. AWALT can be conflated with the God of Gaps theory. You can't really prove or disprove it, it's both unfalsifiable and bad faith. What came before the Big Bang? You don't know? See, proof of God! Have you ever been in such a bad time in a relationship you've considered finding some else? Yes? AWALT Ever been exposed to temptation? Yes? AWALT! Etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:24 AM
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Yeah Rollo etc just teach you to hate I find. At least the likes of Goldmund teach love and appreciation and give practical advice, even if it's often put in not very politically correct language. Nothing wrong with teaching men to have passions, appreciate life, experiment, and to use your passions as opportunities to get laid. If anything a lot of BPers would say that's standard advice just put over in a more forthright manner. That, and he openly writes about how women in his life down the ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:09 AM
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My work has had these type of policies set out across the greater group for years. Simply it's just a set of guidelines passed down to men who are managing and mentoring women, and vice versa. Those are in simple terms - No private bonding meetings outside of the office when it's just the two of you present. So no lunch dates between managers and subordinates of the opposite sex. No one to one meetings in a room that has no cctv, or no clear line of sight from outside. Oh and thry need to be rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:49 AM
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It actually is. Violence is the opposite of civility. Don't get me wrong. I get wanting to punch someone for talking shit. Had it myself with a young guy who started yelling to everyone how I was a racist, sexist nazi. All because I disagreed with his assessment of the British Empire being the most evil thing to ever exist on the planet. I punched him. He went down. I didn't feel better though, and the way others looked at me said all i'd done was make him look right. We actually got far more ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:46 AM
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Doesn't work on a phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:41 PM
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Not really much leeway for provocation at all. If you hit someone because he's insulted you, he gets a warning, you're getting a charge if he pursues it. Put another way. If you hate the NY Yankees, and a guy in a bar supports them and is watching the game. If you then hit him do you honestly think the police would care that you saw him as provoking you? If you actively seek out white nationalist rallies just to attack them physically, the police won't care that you thought you were provoked. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:34 PM
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Which is assault, and a crime. Violence is usually the refuge of knuckleheads who can't win an intellectual discussion or debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:42 PM
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I think the decline of western society has already begun. Though I doubt it'll fall in our life time. You're seeing a lot of fundamental pillars of modern western liberal democracy being challenged and even toppled. Free speech is being questioned with people seemingly looking to redefine it or check it's boundaries to the point where it's easy to see the slippery slope to when it effective becomes useless as a concept. You've got increasing numbers of people on both sides of the aisle who seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 12:07 PM
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Hmm, no it's quite biological actually. If a woman gets pregnant she always knows it's her baby, even if the guy she's sleeping with has dozens of partners. It's in her womb, it's hers. If a man's partner is promiscuous, he can't be certain the baby she is carrying is his baby, especially in the past, pre paternity testing. This has all been established for a long time, even actually in other mammals. Is it a double standard? Yes. But double standards always exist in some form. Really this feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:28 AM
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So they match up pretty well. I guess you'd also have an equivalent to "wasting police time" there as well, where in this example if it can be proven the woman has filed a false report she herself is then prosecuted. Usually in these cases only really used if it's really obvious that the report she made is false and she in effect flagrantly lied. Like in this case for example https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45839644
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:37 PM
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I asked a friend of mine who works in criminal law in the UK about this. Her opinion at least as far as the UK goes seemed to be that the police would investigate the accusation as they're obligated to under the law. But the likelihood of any charges being brought in a case where both parties were evidently extremely intoxicated is very low. Most likely scenario she's seen is both parties are sat down by police separately and told to be careful with alcohol and to make every effort not to put th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:46 PM
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Can confirm. I hate it when I'm at a bar or club with my girlfriend and she goes to the bathroom or to the bar to get drinks. Though she feels the same actually when I go. Loads of guys and girls out there who seem to enjoy trying to put a spanner in the works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:34 AM
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Landing on the gear stick is never fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:20 AM
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Doesn't matter either way. A post sex video and the woman can claim coercion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:42 AM
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The lawyer asked in the article doesnt seem to think so. Its not a foolproof defense, but she admits it can help in your defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:30 AM
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Wasn't this sort of thong predicted by South Park a few years back, and also by a lot of men, and some women who realized that men might look for ways to protect themselves rather than leaving their fate in the grasp of a woman who might whimsically withdraw her consent because she regretted sex the day after.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:27 AM
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Dating but not exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:16 AM
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Yep, as I said in the other thread. It's less of a sex thing more about a shattering of the image he had of his partner mentally, and it's lead him to question everything else he thought he knew about her. I read a similar article once where a woman found out (the husband told her) her husband and father of her daughter was actually accused of rape, but was found not guilty in a trial. How it shattered her views on him, whether he'd be a good father etc, how she felt less safe. That's extreme ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:14 AM
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Same. For me it's knowing what to do with my hands that's the issue. That and really nothing compares to that hit in my throat on first draw etc. Oh and also living and working in Vietnam where there's no social stigma against smoking, no laws about smoking inside, no high taxation pushing the cost of cigarettes up (a pack of premium brand cigarettes like Marlboro would cost like 10-11 dollars on Europe. They cost 1 dollar here), high pollution that the who have said is equivalent in this city o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:16 AM
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I love that he didn't care about what others thought tbh. I remember my mum did the similar to me when I was about 5 or 6. We were in a supermarket, she told me I could have one chocolate bar. I put two in the cart. She looked at me, reminded me only one, put one back and went back to her shopping. Came back, I'd put the other one back in. The look on her face made me start bawling. Everyone in the shop looked at her, one woman even telling her to just let me have two. Instead my mum picked up h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:57 AM
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I think this is less about sex than people are assuming. This strikes me more of a case of someone building up a certain image of their partner in their head during the relationship, which is normal and everyone does it. This revelation has shattered that image and made him question everything else he thought about her. It's an "I thought she would make a great mother, but how can I know now. After all I never would have thought she was the girl who did orgies. What do i really know about her?" …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:14 AM
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Yeah. It's pretty funny sometimes, like the mocking of incels or the people who openly admit here to going to TRP to laugh at the field reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:55 PM
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I'd add make sure the condoms aren't tampered with. It's unlikely she'd go to those lengths, but you can't be entirely sure. Better to certain. I know this might get me some hate from women here, and I know it's highly unlikely, but better to be safe than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:39 AM
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Yeah I can see the dress sexy bit. I'd add context though and say that I wanted to take her to an upmarket skybar in the city we were in (Singapore for any who care) I think in a way I've internalized his tips though, particularly on the importance of being a bit no nonsense, and adding mystery to dating. A lot of dating I see now is a bit boring and mundane, like going to an appointment or meeting. So I go for - "Okay, let's meet at x time on day y. Dress casually " As opposed to - "Let's go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:52 AM
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With those types of women centric groups I also think it's seen as society believing men's threats of violence are more credible. So a woman in these groups puts up a post saying she wants to kill all men and she's kind of dismissed as a wingnut or not being serious. If a man does the same, the site admins or even governments are more likely to step in. The media rushes in to cover it etc. So I wouldn't say necessarily it's that these groups are better at hiding themselves or don't want attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:13 AM
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Similar to the women in the articles then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:56 AM
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I think the reality is that women don't get the same critical eye in the left wing media that writes these pieces when they make those complaints as men would. Not to mention that women in trouble makes great click bait, men in trouble doesn't. Seeing as most media revenue now is clicks and engagement based, it's inevitable you see this type of thing more and more. A guy who wrote an article saying he's got a great career he's worked really hard to build, is told all the time how 'nice' he is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:55 AM
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Depends on the girl and the context. If she seems flakey, indecisive, or like she's playing games but she seems to have some level of interest it doesn't hurt. It's a Hail Mary play though, but then most dating for men at some stage comes to moments similar to that. The chat is going nowhere, things with the girl at the coffee shop started well but seem to be petering out, that girl at the bar might be making eye contact but you're not sure etc. But handsome is subjective. Most women will never …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:25 PM
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From what I remember Roosh resented Rollo's success and Rollo hated the language Roosh used to talk about women. Pretty funny really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:33 PM
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From my experience it was being more pushy and direct that worked, and actually went against more of the programming for me, and especially against a lot of the social programming guys get of basically "make her feel safe and comfortable." My epiphany was when I was single and travelling for work about 5 or 6 years ago. I matched on tinder with a woman who was on holiday in the same place alone. We kept arranging to meet, her begging off and I'd stop talking to her only to be drawn back in when …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 09:49 AM
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Maybe. But in its full context the quotes he's mentioning are talking about real sympathy versus false sympathy. Are women more likely to display false sympathy because they're culturally expected to be sympathetic? I'd say yes, even today. So in effect when she wants real sympathy she would look to men as she found that sympathy to be more likely to be genuine, as men don't have the cultural programming. I can see though, similar to those feminist studies saying men are culturally wired to want…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:56 AM
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Florence Nightingale was the mother of modern nursing, a pioneer in sanitation, visual statistics and a prolific writer on things such as the human condition before psychology became a thing. I agree her experiences aren't to be seen as standard. However her pretty unique life of being surrounded by men in times of war as a nurse and even in the trenches with them, as well as being surrounded by solely women at other points shouldn't be discarded. I'd say her observations are important and even …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:13 AM
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Similar to my girlfriend and myself. We were together years ago, but broke up because of her career. She worked long hours and brought work home with her, any lunch dates we might actually go on inevitably turned into working lunches with her glued to her BlackBerry. When she eventually got a job offer in New York (we were in europe) and she wanted me to go with her I called time on it. Mostly because knowing how she was, I'd be stuck in that city knowing no one at all whilst she worked worked w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:45 AM
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Pretty normal for things to wax and wane periodically. If your testosterone levels are normal , you're living a healthy lifestyle (as in a lot of social activities, keep yourself in shape, eat well etc) then there's nothing wrong. I went through a few stages like that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:23 AM
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Even that is kind of baffling. At some point as a guy you've got to issue an ultimatum. All guys get the tinder girl who just want a to chat endlessly, or the girl who strings them along. At some point you force them to make a yes or no choice. Basically it's a "Meet me/Date me or fuck off" thing, but put in a nicer way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:31 PM
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Yeah it's actually quite amusing that we're in the first era where we're being pushed to be more emotional, yet more men are clammimg up than ever. I think the first world war had a lot to do with it. Early in the war it was common for men to be seen consoling each other etc. But governments thought it was bad for morale and actively hired and encouraged women to shame those men, telling them to man up and fight, stop being cowards etc. Those men when they return have seen horrors but can expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:54 AM
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His message isn't wrong. However I'd put that in as another case of caring about men only so far as the issue hurts women. If I had a penny every time a story about male suicide got coopted into a story about just how awful his wife or girlfriend must feel. Or how of course the real victims of a man dying at war are his wife and mother, or any number of similar stories, I'd be a rich man. Society only cares about men when the issue affects women. To put it back to the video, do you think he'd ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:51 AM
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Im not sure. Only thing i can think of is the effects peer pressure have on dating in the offline world. In effect your friends and others temper your expectations and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:25 AM
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My girlfriend actually did this experiment a few months ago. We were talking about it so she actually got permission from one of our friends to use his pictures, a guy who is routinely in day to day life described as good looking, filled out a bio based on conventional advice etc. We ran it even twice with pictures of the same guy. She used it for two weeks, and as shes bisexual she actively swiped and put super likes where appropriate. She was shocked by how few matches she got. Not to mention …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:36 AM
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Just how much society at large puts pressure on men, and how often that pressure can be so contradictory that it confuses people. Be in shape, but not too in shape, be cocky, but not arrogant, be courteous, but not a doormat, be kind but not too kind. Those all seem easy until you realize that they're actually empty statements as the range between them is huge. Men are also told routinely how they have to be successful by societal standards. As I've said previously, men who decide to go live in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:18 AM
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Yeah, but you've never done it, which indicates you know there are boundaries of human decency. Assholes are assholes. Smokers who blow smoke in people's faces deliberately and unprovoked are up there with people who talk really loudly on their phones in lifts, vegans who have to twist some scientific research and shove it down your face (and I'm saying that as a vegan myself), the guy who feels he has to rev his car engine right next to you etc etc. I try to be considerate about my smoking. To …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:34 AM
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I can kind of understand where overweight people are coming from. As someone who smokes I often get a lot of the shaming in western countries, up to and including random strangers slapping cigarettes out of my hands, sometimes even hitting my face as they do it as I smoke in the street, to again strangers lecturing me uninvited on smoking. It does get to a stage where you become defensive, rude, and even create rationalizations for what is a bad life style choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:01 PM
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Yeah. In the UK I know it's an issue when healthcare is state funded. It wastes huge sums of tax payers money that could be better spent on other parts of the service. It's even been brought up by the conservative government a few years ago to force people overweight people, smokers etc to pay for private insurance. But it got shot down as fatshaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:46 PM
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In ultra left wing circles it does yeah. But I don't think most people are even educated enough to realize that other people are paying for their so called "free stuff "
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 11:51 AM
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Yet in all the examples given it seems they've isolated fathers and men as the problem. It's the trick of identifying men as the issue, identifying society as a whole even, but never specifically identifying women's role. It's an journalistic op-ed trick really, because the logical defense is "Well I said society didn't I and women are part of it" when really they know what they're doing. Men are part of society as well, but they get singled out. To use an example of this. If I wrote an article …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:28 AM
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Oh you'd be surprised. I've met all sorts of people. People are suckers when the word free is thrown around, hence the phrase "But 1 get 1 free" is so often used as a marketing trick. My experience is if people aren't paying directly, they often make the assumption it's free.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 07:15 AM
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Yeah. The I think the term is so often misused that it might just be better creating a new term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:46 AM
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Yeah. The only difference I'd say is that these women earn a lot more than the waitress does on tips. We're not just talking subscription sites like only Fans etc but in terms of just monetary gifts. I saw an article whilst I was in Asia, I think in an Australian paper of a woman bragging she earns 20-25k a month for pictures of her or to talk to men and it's tax free as she qualifies it as a 'gift'. I'm not an international tax expert, but to me that seems wrong. It's really no different than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:23 AM
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Well it's written from her perspective. We don't know his perspective really, as she, as normal for anyone in life when they want support, has written down his views, but almost certainly twisted it to make herself look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:42 AM
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I guess the answer to the op then is that the reason many official statistics and studies based on those statistics show men are hardly ever victims and almost exclusively the perpetrators is because the legal definitions of male rape are too narrow. So simply looking up rape statistics is not really a basis for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 04:13 PM
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Not really. Father's still pay support in most if not all of Europe, even in France for example, if you know the child that's born isn't yours. A white couple has a mixed race baby? The government doesn't care, The cuckold is stuck with paying support until the child turns 18. Biodad gets away free, especially as paternity testing is illegal. Granted the government's generally pick up the bulk of the support but that is actually becomming less and less. Governments are realizing some women are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:10 PM
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I'm guessing based entirely on him thinking being given chores is game playing, plus knowing a lot of kids nowadays. No, they've never asked him to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:35 AM
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So basically say "Hi, how are you?" to every hot girl on dating sites. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:15 PM
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Finance. Pretty much everything regards to economics and banking really. But to mention one specific thing- that there is no such thing as free. I see so many people always going on about wanting free healthcare, free schools etc. They don't seem to understand that those things aren't free, that they will pay for them with their taxes, and if they don't pay tax, others pay more tax on their behalf. It's always costing someone. Other things. Economists specialize in areas. They aren't a moniform,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:38 PM
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I think the change in people's social skills and increase in social anxieties. Now it seems people are a lot more awkward when it comes to actual face to face interactions. I can't recall even 10 years ago seeing the amount of men and women in bars and clubs who really like eachother (based on body language) who have no idea what to say, and can't even read the cues of the other person. Even couples on date nights sitting awkwardly on silence and browsing on their phones. It's the reason why so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:18 AM
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Yeah agree for this. Even the illusion of romance and love seems to have gone. I think this is even prevalent in movies and culture. Films like Love Actually wouldn't be made now, Romcoms which used to be so saturated seem to have died off etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:52 AM
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Even as a senator by the end it'd be shit. Your have no real power or influence. You might be (towards the end they weren't even that, as wealth was squandered) rich but most political appointments to any perceived power like Consul were appointed by the emperor. Most of the time they werent even given to senatorial classes, but the favoured general, heir apparent or some foreign foederati leader the emperor wished to placate. Oh and top of that senatorial classes were banned from any military c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 01:32 PM
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Yeah it's the old "give me equal rights!" thing one minute and "what do you mean I don't get priority getting off the sinking ship! Sexism!" the next. As Bill Burr says, there's no feminists in a house fire, or in a bank heist etc. A fair bit of modern feminism is just a bunch of overly entitled women (usually white) cherry picking the benefits they want whilst ignoring any drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:18 AM
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Your view on Roman society and it's self description is off. For one we're talking about a civilization that existed for over 2000 years in varying forms, so which period? So on one hand certainly be the late Republic and early imperial period women had enough agency and independent wealth that they no longer wished to marry. We know this as Augustus and Tiberius actually issued new taxation laws specifically targeting them. These weren't passed as "get back in your cage" measures either, as tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:04 AM
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I'm still surprised anyone takes their parents opinions on their looks seriously past like 15. Most parents have rose tinted goggles regarding their children. If you're not getting any attention from your preferred sex and your mum or dad is telling you you're beautifil/handsome, they're wrong. If anything going the opposite way is better. When my mum hates my hair, I get more compliments from other women about it. Same with clothes, weight etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:50 AM
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That's probably because of a shift in perspective. When you live in a fat society, your view on normal shifts. When fat is all that's available, you'll take fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:43 AM
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Its also not a new thing regarding war either. Superpowers throughout history have tried to avoid large full scale war and invasions of their rivals, instead resorting to skirmishes, raids and proxy wars. The Romans and the Persians are a classic example. 700 years they held a land border, only about 50 total was a full scale war. The British and the French after Napoleon were much the same. We're not living in an exceptional time of no war, we're just living in yet another time where the cost o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 12:03 AM
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In two years it's impossible, yes. But he's right, people do get more conservative with age. In the UK many who were anti-Margaret Thatcher are now the ones voting Conservative and even pro Brexit. It's also a shift in politics as well though, yesterday's liberalism is the futures conservatism. The left in Thatchers day was the euroskeptic group, and now euroskepticism is seen definitively as a right wing thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:36 PM
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It's probably linked more to a general decline in testosterone amongst men. Less testosterone, lower sex drive, less sex. Couple that with the fear of God being put into men regarding rape, and men are probably less likely to have that random bar hook up. Less sex for men usually means less sex for women as well, seeing as most of the world is straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:56 PM
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For me yeah once is fine. Twice or more and I start to lose interest myself. Not simply due to a perception about her interest levels, but also the perception I get that she's really not in the right place for a relationship, having had an experience with this personally. My ex girlfriend and i broke up over it, her having 100 hour weeks, bringing work home, always on her phone regarding work. She wanted a relationship but didnt have the time. Early stages of relationships often take time and ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:23 AM
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Being honest, if she's interested generally she'll make time to reply. I'm not talking immediately but if a girl is taking 2-3 days or longer to reply and using the busy excuse or that she forgot to check, she's not interested. If you're interested you make time, as you think about the other person, and showing your interest is important to you. Even in my own experiences as a guy there's times I've been busy, but if I'm interested I'm never so busy that I can't send a quick message whilst in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:31 AM
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I'm not red but I see this a lot as well. A lot of women (and even men) who have great academic records struggle when they get into the workplace. I think there was even an article about it regarding lawyers, that many of the most successful women lawyers in firms were only middle of their class in school, and a lot of the top women in their class leave the profession or cut back by 30 (which I think ties in to a Jordan Peterson point) I'd say it's a different skill set issue as opposed to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:59 AM
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I'd agree. But on top of that I think men value experiences and fulfilling dreams, and money can provide that. Like a client of mine who showed up to a meeting in his vintage Ferrari. He wasn't showing off for status, he was like a kid with a new toy. He'd wanted that car since he was a kid, and now he had it, and if everyone else hated it, he didn't care at all. I don't think the guy on his superyacht with bikini clad models around cares about his status in so much as just enjoying the experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:42 AM
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I see what he means. But really it's only certain subsets of superficial women (aka club divas, models, Instagram girls etc) that TRP holds up as "all women" The type of women who have laundry lists like he must have a high paying, powerful job, must have a six pack, must have loads of interesting hovbies, and must still have time for her on top of all that are few and far between. Not to mention most grow out of that phase by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 04:27 PM
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Yeah, additionally these incels are usually very intelligent in other ways. In fact one of the things they're usually accused of by others is being on the spectrum of a very particular mental health issue which is characterized usually by that person having high intelligence. Not to mention sending these people off to war might wipe out a lot of scientists and engineers. Good luck with a society without them. Alpha dudebro probably won't have the time to try cure cancer or design sewage systems …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:48 AM
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Yeah for me it's this. Basically men who don't follow society's rules get little to no respect. Often in our current climate women who go against the grain are often held up as virtuous and good, whilst men are told they're immature or stuck as boys because they don't necessarily want the stressful or powerful jobs. A woman who travels the world, care free and does enough to get by? You go girl! A man doing the same? He's a man baby, when is he going to grow up, settle down and start his career!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:28 AM
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Partly yes. But he was running in a time of extreme divergence within Germany. The Communists and Socialists gained large scale support based on the old wealth of Germany still living it up whilst the poor were taking wheelbarrows full of currency just to buy bread. The rich understandably were looking at the at the time pretty recent Russian revolution and it's subsequent treatment of the even moderately wealthy. Hitler played those extremes against each other and, put them on one middle packag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:14 AM
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Be careful about that though. Personally from a historical perspective I'd be wary of anyone who claims to be the middle ground. Hitler after all got elected by very cleverly promising to protect the wealthy from communists and from adopting socialist ideas from the communists to placate the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:30 PM
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Yeah as a Brit it's crazy to see. But after talking to a few Americans on holiday recently, I get the feeling there's not much that can be done that isn't shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. What can you do really? Confiscate all firearms? Ask for them to be handed in? That might deal with legal firearms but not the illegally obtained ones. None of the solutions I've read about seem to actually deal with the issue. They're at best a band aid over an infected wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:13 PM
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Yeah I've walked in to the women's bathroom at bars and clubs when I'm drunk. Think most I've ever got is a few laughs from women and that's it. I've even proceeded to go into a stall after I realized. I don't think the average person gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:08 PM
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Yea, and every generation thinks the succeeding generation is worse. People in my age group (30s) think the newer generation is so vain and arrogant because they see all the Instagram shit. Truthfully social media is just a tool that taps into that, particularly for women. Previous generations just didnt have the means for the validation the newer gen does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:41 AM
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I notice it a bit. One old co-worker comes to mind. Married to a wife with ME so she doesn't work. Two kids. Mid 30s. He's often working 12-14 hour days at work, and then when he gets home needs to do the housework and cooking for his family. He felt trapped and often spoke of how envious he was of my life. On top of that I think he felt really unappreciated by his wife as she'd always send him honey do's for when he got home or had a moment in the day. But he loves his wife, and her condition o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:34 AM
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That's it for me. I used to post a lot, but life and other interests got in the way, not just here but reddit in general. I enjoy reading the posts occasionally though, but I don't really have the time to construct a decent post myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 05:13 PM
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I was making a point that in many cases women do go back to people who have sexually assaulted them, or stay with the person afterwards. We have been told continuously that victims behave strangely and you should sympathise with them, not question them. Yet here, because it's a man all that seems to have been thrown out of the window. Either people are treated the same, or they're not. Remember, many of the women who accused him acted very friendly, to the point of having physical contact with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 06:10 PM
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So you'd have no sympathy with women who went back to Weinstein time and time again? Don't get me wrong, I actually agree with you. If we followed any form of common sense In these cases then it's not assault or harassment. If you go back time and again or stay it is a form of consent. Unfortunately sexual assault/ harassment and common sense seem to have diverged a long time ago. Feminists, lawyers and psychologists have written up and advocated for extensive frameworks both within legal and ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 09:40 AM
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Men have said that to women in the past and been accused of victim blaming though. It's the age old debate about sexual assault. Why did she keep talking and hanging out with her alleged rapist for months or years after? Why didn't she call the police or tell her bosses superiors? etc etc As to the interested bit. Well men have been told for years now that you can't take physical or even in many instances verbal cues as consent to sex. Men who have been accused have said that a lot down the year…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:47 AM
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Yup this. Women in positions of authority are as culpable as their male counterparts if they're either heavily using or just using the implication of their authority to get the victim to do what they want. If a male supervisor suggests a woman will be fired or past up for promotion or bonuses if they don't accept his advances, then the same applies on the flip side as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 11:32 PM
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Well those women teachers are sick, same as the male ones. I wouldn't cite them as evidence of anything regarding normal human sexuality. Plus they're a significant minority, to the point of being statistically irrelevant once you filter out all the cases that are simply teenage boys talking shit to get cred with their friends. I'd also add that most evidence shows men get more attractive sexually to women as they get into their late 20's, which would fly in the face of fresh faced 18 year old b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 11:04 PM
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Below that it seems off yes. In the US 40-27 would be creepy I think yeah but in europe not so much. Here it seems that we take it more on a case by case basis. I'm sure most people would rather date their age, but with women I don't think they'd prefer younger over older. I'd say the opposite is the case. I've not seen any studies, but my experience tells me if you took a 30 year old woman who wants a relationship, and gave her a choice of two guys one 20 and one 40, she'd pick 40 the majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 07:35 PM
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Half my age plus seven is the minimum standard I use age wise in dating and relationships I think that rule is kind of applied socially especially in over 30s men. So a 40 year old man dating a 27 year old woman isn't that weird to me. But then maybe that's my European upbringing talking. I've not seen the lack of acceptance in Europe that people here on the primarily US focussed sub talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 02:42 PM
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Not necessarily. They can be either meaner or nicer depending on their own personality and/or upbringing. It all comes down to how they deal with so much attention and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 02:09 AM
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That woman could say that her tweet summed up feminism and racial activism. Doesn't mean she's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:28 AM
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You just proved my point. This quote doesn't sum up TRP either. Same as the critics of that woman, you're probably thinking more about this than the author ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:11 AM
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It's not RP theory. It's just something one dude said to sound prophetic. A call to arms for men just like #killallwhitemen was to far left activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:40 PM
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The porn viewed becomes more extreme over time as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:42 AM
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Classic. Always remember to ask yourself: "What's the worst that can happen?" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 10:01 PM
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She does call it sexual assault in her account. “It took a really long time for me to validate this as sexual assault,” she told us. “I was debating if this was an awkward sexual experience or sexual assault. And that’s why I confronted so many of my friends and listened to what they had to say, because I wanted validation that it was actually bad.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:59 PM
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Guys in general aren't shitheads. Some guys are. This is just derailing into subjective and emotional "my experience" nonsense now anyway. All it proves is people have different experiences, and telling me that mine are wrong and yours are right or even saying my friends dont trust me is tiring and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:49 PM
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What's going to happen when somebody finds a old IRC, or AOL messenger chain from a 16 year old in '99, and trashes a 34 year old now. For bumbling teen idiocy 18 years ago. From the thread in the OP. I'd be screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:57 PM
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If Twitter removed all the bots you'd end up with like 3 people on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:47 PM
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Oh please you don't even know them or me. The majority (your words) of women don't go through things the woman in the Aziz case went through. They're simply smart enough to not put themselves in that situation. The incredulity many women, even feminists, are responding to her account with shows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:33 PM
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Best friends since childhood. They've had their arses pinched by drunken louts, but like I said nothing like the Aziz stuff. But evidently you know all women better than they know themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:50 PM
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It's the horseshoe theory in action. Far left and far right often lead to similar outcomes. The hammer and sickle should be seen as the same as the swastika. Yet it's glorified.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:10 PM
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Most of my friends are women and we go out a fair amount. They don't experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:43 PM
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Yeah. Most guys experience this from women at some point. It's all over the internet generally under whinefests on " why do women play games!!!11"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:51 PM
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It works both ways. TRP makes that clear too. That's why there's such a focus on game. Women generally want a certain type of guy for casual sex, game helps men become that guy, if that's what they want. Both sexes will change themselves to get what they desire from intersex relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:48 PM
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In physical age? You're right. In mental age she's clearly very young. The level of naivety she showed is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 10:06 AM
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Was going to share that. Love that the author equated it with revenge porn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 10:05 AM
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They do in the UK. It's called the Sunday newspapers. It's quite lucrative for women to do it too. Big money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:59 AM
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I don't think the majority of women have experienced anything even this serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:55 AM
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Even gun violence is down https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.835783058735
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:29 PM
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No but it keeps the conversation going.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:24 PM
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Women's March soon. If there's not enough actual revelations they'll cling to these dubious at best ones. Got to keep the uproar high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:04 PM
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I didn't say anything about you being bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:16 PM
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I dunno. As a guy I love kissing, but I'm not that bothered by getting blowjobs. I'd say I'm weirder than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:16 PM
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Technically did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 11:39 PM
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It's a boy who cried wolf scenario. When the actual Nazis show up no one will believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 11:10 PM
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One who has A very small one on his cheek. He's client facing yes. His portfolio and scope is in attracting and dealing with new money in niche new markets though, not your standard dealing with old timers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:33 PM
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"Guys." Silly Electra. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:59 PM
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This was top rated when I posted it. The problem with articles such as this is that it ignores the basic element of a capitalistic society, one where incentives are tied to actions. This being if said society rejects the males in its society, why should these males care if said society collapses. Indeed, they should be rejoicing its downfall. Back to the article, if german underage girls want to bang 35 year old syrian refugees to the exclusion of men of their own age/ethnicity, then let them. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:21 PM
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One of those threads where people ignore the top rated comment. In this case it's a guy saying live and let live, criticizing the article, and simply telling men who are concerned to just not bother propping up the society that enables the thing they don't like. Hardly alt right. Really shit, but not alt right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:08 PM
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He can feel slighted all he wants. We're never going to agree and follow again though. The British public won't stand for another Bush/Blair combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:12 PM
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Private banking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 11:58 AM
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It's only the Labour party who talk shit about the USA. The Conservatives have been sucking up to Trump quite a bit, and been very forgiving of and acring ignorant of the majority of his stupidity. He's still got the offer of a full state visit on the table. Our lefties seem to not know that discretion is the better part of valour and how to not bite the hand that's going to feed you. We need to stop provoking the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:31 PM
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It won't work and we can't change it back to how it was. Too many variables. Even rejoining the EU would mean humiliating concessions and having to get on our hands and knees and beg Germany and France. Most Brits, even liberals, would slit their wrists before begging the Germans for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:04 PM
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Countries already in the ground mate. Brexit will fuck us up. No politician will ever make upsetting but needed changes, as they're all too obsessed with their re election. Corbyn wouldn't do half the stuff he says he would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:48 PM
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Pretty much. Don't even have to be a socialist either, just somewhat rational. Had the same in the UK with Brexit. Left wing parties cosy up to corporations and are pro globalization, but don't realize that globalization in it's current form often hurts their traditional base who vote for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:43 PM
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Only if you actually think who you elect makes that much of a difference. It's all a storm in a tea cup. When the democrats win in 2020 they'll just reverse all of it and the cycle will continue. Same as here in the UK. It's all bollocks really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:29 PM
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Agree with this. Personally feel tattoos should be something used sparingly as an expression of your personality, or have a story behind it, not the basis of your personality or be generic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:03 PM
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It depends on the tattoo art for all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:56 PM
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Can confirm. I work in one of the top 5 banks in the world and we have loads of people with visible tattoos working here (So neck, hands). Even one guy who has a very small tattoo on his cheek. Unless it's a huge tattoo on your face no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:45 PM
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I find the creepiness thing overblown. All guys will be creepy some of the time, simply because personality traits and actions that one woman will find attractive will put off another woman. It's not definable as it varies. It also shouldn't be the massive worry that guys on the pill subs make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 12:13 AM
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Pfff Germans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 06:43 PM
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Agree. I hate elitism in gaming. You get the same disconnect between consoles and pc. Gaming isn't one community it's loads of little ones. The average FIFA player will have zero to talk about with a fan of, say, the Total War series.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 04:18 PM
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On visual representation they are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 04:09 PM
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Succinctly put. Funny thing if you're purple is you get smashed by both sides. I only stay because I find it funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 04:01 PM
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You still don't get it. I'm saying the same columnists who are now saying "look, theres Finn!! And that clearly hints theres more. Silly white men!" are the same who scoffed when fans said the same and swapped Finn for Lando or Mace Windu. I think you know as well that that argument wouldn't be made by those people if all the first order was black and Finn was white. The progressive extreme left would go mad. It's just sad that this is really an opportunity where both sides actually now understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:07 PM
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You're not understanding my point, which is that that excuse is bullshit by the parameters that activists themselves set up in judging movies. They called bullshit when people used that reasoning when pointing at Lando and Leia, or Mace Windu and Padme. All I want is for both sides to show a bit of consistency. If the first order was all black people people would be pissed off and both sides would flip their arguments. Guaranteed. I personally don't actually care that much about it being white m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 03:21 AM
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Most of Europe's decline is because of post colonial guilt and because for much of the second half of the last century it was being pulled in different directions by the communist Soviet union and the capitalist US. Inevitably western Europe adopted socialism as a halfway house and its ended poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 08:46 PM
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He did do something wrong. He acknowledged that immediately based on the account. So the question then becomes whether it warrants what has come 20 years on. Well probably not. As for #metoo it has become a witch hunt, as all things like this do. In fact just two days ago Le Monde published an open letter signed by over 100 women prominent in France denouncing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 03:18 PM
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Of course it's the flip. I could easily just say there are loads of women and poc in the rebels in the originals and you just don't see them on screen. No one has ever accepted that reasoning for any film, and they definitely never did for star wars. I still remember the complaints from the guardian regarding the prequels having just one black man and one woman being visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:40 AM
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Reverse being if they'd made the visible 'good guys' all white men that people wouldn't accept that many women or poc might be there but hiding under helmets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:22 AM
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His point is people would not accept that explanation if it was the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:59 AM
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Maybe explain some of the niggles in the plot too. Though I think it more likely the novelization will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:55 AM
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The speed of the duels themselves isn't actually cgi. Personally I like both the new style and the old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:29 AM
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He's proven himself enough that it's obvious he's not the mole. Plus his hotheadedness is the reason she should tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:23 AM
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I think the only reason the originals hold up is Vader. He's just iconic. It's the reason Disney are writing comics about him, added him to Rogue One and are adding him to Solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:12 AM
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People in fandoms everywhere are often the most critical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:05 AM
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Neither of them are particularly talented with a lightsaber anyway especially when compared to the prequels (i think thats deliberate by disney making it slower and more raw, less finesse)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:04 AM
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Wasn't he humiliated on Twitter like 2 years ago by his wife and Alt right douchebag Cernovich?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:34 PM
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Did Kylo actually fool Snoke though? I thought so on my first view, now I'm not so sure. That whole scene seems so star wars. Reminded me of Luke and Palpatine in ROTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:18 PM
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My point is more that the resistance has diversity in the background with the extras as well, whilst the first order is pretty much white men and a couple of white women. There's two schools of thought regarding it I've read. One from alt right morons thinking it's a commentary on white men being evil by the director. That makes no sense to me, directors don't get involved with the hiring and allocation of extras a lot. The other being it's an oversight when putting in the extras. I lean towards…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:37 PM
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My argument would be it's fairly obvious Poe wasn't a traitor just from his actions at the beginning. That plus knowing how reckless he is would make it more pertinent to tell him the plan to stop the stupidity that inevitably followed. Plus whether there was a traitor on board or not was irrelevant. Whether the plan was divulged 3 hours or 30 minutes before it was started is still time for any traitor to get a message out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:18 PM
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I never criticised diversity. I just want diversity on both sides. It's far better now than the token poc and woman we had before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:12 PM
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My point is more that if you can just destroy ships from jumping into light speed and flying in to them, why do anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:10 PM
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Again, from a certain point of view that could be true. But there's a myriad of ways that that could turn out not to be the whole story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:03 PM
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Not just the characters. The majority of the plot. Pointless side story with Finn, started from the purple haired woman refusing to tell Poe the plan for no conceivable reason. Then with her suicide it negates episode 4+6. Why go through the hassle of downing shields on the Death Star when you can just kamikaze light speed the fuck out of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:35 AM
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The diversity just seemed too one sided for me, though I think it's far better than the token diversity of the previous trilogies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:18 AM
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Not necessarily lying anymore than Obi Wan when he told Luke that Vader killed his father. It could be the truth from Kylo's point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:13 AM
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Even worse, they actively try and lie about it and say that being fat has no health implications. But as a formerly obese ex smoker I see that most mainstream wisdom on health is bullshit, just from reading actually replicated studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 11:40 AM
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Yeah it's the throwing it out there that annoys me. It has its context, but too often It's just put out there as a definitive for the sake of sounding edgy and educated when we have well known words that are better and less ambiguous. When I see stuff like "Trumps latest tweet is problematic" it just irks me, as the use of the word is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:04 AM
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http://otakusphere.com/2014/02/24/why-i-hate-the-word-problematic/ Dude sums it up well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:43 AM
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If we also include general use of "not okay" and "problematic" as well. Particularly "not okay" as it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:10 PM
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I went out, ended up in jail for the night. Good start to the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:54 AM
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Probably thinks she's French too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:47 AM
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You need to build a wall then. Simples.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:43 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5223567/Man-rape-conviction-quashed-police-blunder.html Three now. "Believe the victim" evidently means "don't even do basic policework"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:27 PM
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I did read an article in the associated press last aweek that men are less likely to perform CPR on women because they're worried about touching the women's chest without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:26 PM
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Leftism not Liberalism. Probably because it's the movement that they feel will make the most impact on their lives with minimal to no self improvement by themselves. So laziness really, and an accepted invitation to keep the blinkers on and blame everyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:50 PM
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http://goldmundunleashed.com/introduction-camera-game-seduce-women-photography-became-bestseller/ Lol'd. People saying that book makes guys rapists. It's probably the most BP acceptable dating advice you can get from TRPer. Using a hobby or interest to meet new people. If even that's rape now then we're at peak bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 06:12 PM
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Depends on whether they let you know. There's a difference between being late and being late and not having the decency to tell the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:53 PM
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Its an offshore dependency of the UK
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 11:43 PM
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It's not that easy. So you prove she had an affair, she alleges she had an affair because you were mentally cruel to her. Lawyers can twist any cross word you said to her in public into evidence for that, with witnesses if necessary from friends, family etc, they can twist words you said in anger to her to prove it. It could all be bullshit, but it bogs things down, and all the while the lawyers bills grow until you're fighting over nothing anyway. Don't get me wrong, as I said I think in an ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 11:31 PM
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Problem with it is it quickly devolves into he said/she said nonsense that bogs the courts down. You divorce her for adultery, she countersues for mental cruelty etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 08:14 PM
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Yeah agree. I can understand the reasoning behind no fault from the point of view of the law, but it definitely encourages shitty behaviour from shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 06:27 PM
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Social status where I am is the top one. But you're social status is intrinsically linked to how much money you or your family have in ways I haven't seen elsewhere, even in the UK. We have a lot of "daddy's little princesses" here (my mother's term) who have been bought affection by largely absent fathers due to their work. So their first car after passing your driving test is often a brand new Mercedes or BMW etc. Even if you're a good looking guy, then you have little chance with most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 11:49 AM
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Yeah, and I don't think it'd work on a national scale anyway. Here it's a small population (300k roughly total) and everyone knows each other through some degrees of separation, and with social media I think they just thought there's no way in hell you couldn't tell the dad if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:39 PM
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They're not taking it away, as it was never awarded. It's just taking away a legal safety net of women who want the child but don't want the father involved, who then were previously allowed to seek out the father for money at a later date, in one case even 12 years down the line. If a father still wants to pay he can, its as one of the judges commented recently, a father should be more than just a convenient pay check. They've reformed the social security recently anyway to provide more assista…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:33 PM
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It's an offshore jurisdiction of the UK so it has its own laws. You dont have to name a father at law here, and they don't consider a name binding as you could put any name there. Here the mother has to sign, the father doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:12 PM
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Where I live they've recently set a time limit on when women can claim child support of 18 months. In essence if a woman gets pregnant, doesn't tell the father and has the baby she has 18 months dated from 8 weeks post birth to claim child support. Basically law makers got sick of women coming along 5-10 years down the line and saying "Surprise you're a daddy, gimme money!" and took the view that in those scenarios her actions have shown she has no interest involving the father, so hitting him u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:57 PM
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I'm a bit the same with mine and I'm a guy. Helped my family loads, but I'm toughening up, and had my final straw recently. My cousin had a baby with a deadbeat loser a few years ago and broke up with him about 18 months ago, and I gave her the deposit and first months rent on a flat. She was sorting herself out, got a decent job and even started hairdressing again on the side. My friends warned me she was lost, even the women, but I was an ignorant. Lost contact with her for the last 11 months,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 12:09 AM
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Funnily enough there's been studies that have found testosterone levels in men have been rapidly declining in the last 20 years (1% per year). But we're also observing negative effects of that, some anecdotally (men having less of a drive to do anything on average), some with obvious stronger ties (lower fertility).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:55 AM
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I find them to be the vegans of politics. They often can't resist shoving it in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:46 PM
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I'd say Steve Jobs was the only alpha guy I could think of. Softly spoken, easy going and charming to the public, but a ruthlessly competitive, never beaten authoritarian behind the scenes who scared the shit out of everyone close to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:38 PM
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Seems like a recipe for disaster. We don't fully understand the genome, never mind how fucking with one part of it might affect the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:27 PM
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So today I learned thanks to feminists like Jessica Valenti over the Jimmy Choo ad that complimenting a woman's shoes means I want to rape her. https://youtu.be/KIhDUuzly3A
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:27 PM
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Nothing to do with loving it as a kid for me. I'm not old enough to remember the originals being released, and the prequels were my childhood, so really the only way is up from Jar Jar Binks, and Hayden Christensen. I don't think its the worst star wars movie by far, I'd say episodes 1 and 2 have covered that. I'd even put it above a new hope and Esb (never understood the adoration for that movie beyond the one scene). I also hate the fan reaction mostly too, I agree with them that diversity sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:09 PM
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The not enough white men doesn't bother me. I mean I feel the portrayal of white men is a little meh, and I feel the inclusion of Holdo was forced (but that's because I'd have preferred Admiral 'Its a trap' Ackbar to have got that part as a fan service) But that said the most interesting overall character in it is a white man to me anyway. Kylo Ren has a depth to him after these two movies that many characters in Star Wars have never had, the depth they added to him in TLJ was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:59 PM
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We're still really good friends. We just forgot that the other was working through their own issues. My previous girlfriend cheated on me with one of my then best friends and her previous relationship was with someone who was possessive. It was a great relationship outside of that and we matched. If we'd met at a different time it would have worked I think. I'm as sure as I can be she never cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:35 PM
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Maybe. I think my conclusion on reflection is they were in a no win. The Skywalker story really should have finished in episode 6. They probably shot themselves in the foot by bringing back the old cast. They'd have done better making a clean break and not doing an episode 7, setting it further in the future and not having the original cast back except for brief cameos in recordings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:37 AM
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The only real ones with my ex were just over this habit of white lies she had. So I'd ask her if she wanted to meet for lunch during the work week, and she'd say she was staying at work as she was snowed under, and I'd find out later she'd gone to lunch with co-workers or her bosses that came over on a trip. It lead to the back and forth of her saying she only said it because I was insecure or men are insecure generally, and me saying that I wouldn't be insecure and men wouldn't be if women just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:31 AM
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Maybe past relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:59 AM
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Not against it, they're fans of tallying them. As in, you do one thing for every two she does. They feel it keeps them in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:28 PM
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It's good advice in certain contexts. I know some of the women in my life used to annoy the fuck out of me with certain behaviours and tantrums when they were at their time of the month. When I read TRP I kind of realized it's not too dissimilar to teenagers, and so acted how I would with a teenager. Reduced the conflict a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:20 PM
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I'd say in this day and age you should discuss all this before marrying. Whether it's the man emphasising how important sex is to him, or the woman emphasising her desire for children. You can't make assumptions anymore with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:53 PM
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I'm not expecting zero development, I wasn't expecting that, as even Mark Hamill has said himself, Luke was someone who saw the good in everyone, even his father who was far worse than Kylo has been. The guy literally told them Holdo's plan, which Finn and Rose didn't know, that was revealed to Poe after they left. The First Order reacted based on his revelations. Every first order person shown except phasma is a white man, not even a woman is present. I get the Nazi comparisons, but In star war…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:46 PM
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Needless subplot with Finn and Rose. Luke being inconsistent with his character from previous trilogy. Big plothole halfway through. Plus I just felt the general plot didn't fit the movie following episode 7. That plot as a rogue one style story would have been good, maybe set in the weeks or years following episode 3 with Vader and Palpatine and another Jedi sacrificing himself so the Rebels could escape. Johnson said in last couple of days he'd written it before all of the plot for episode vii…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:50 PM
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God no. They knew it wasn't a relationship, wasn't exclusive and was just sexual, but I wasn't stupid enough to tell either of them I was doing the same with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 04:11 PM
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I think you're right. I think it's also that consumer culture has a role as well. We live in a society where it's generally accepted as part of life to always go for new and shinier things, and the moment something breaks you just buy new as opposed to fixing the old. I think that translates into dating and marriage. The moment the relationship calms down from the excitement of the beginning and you need to work to keep the spark people start getting itchy feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:47 AM
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My Nan always said that women like getting married whilst men like being married. That view is also somewhat backed up by studies as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:32 AM
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Was going to say. I went through a phase of having two and the amount of time it took away from other stuff was crazy, and I found it more bother than it was worth. I don't want my whole life to revolve around maintaining a group of women as sex partners, and I think it's one of those where the idea sounds great but in reality it's not, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:24 AM
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Going to bet the officer who worked on both and failed to disclose in both is a woman. Regardless the officer should be suspended and investigated. Once is an oops, two is starting to look like an either under trained officer, or worse, an officer deliberately trying to skew things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:12 AM
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I give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:58 AM
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Not a massive fan I'd say, I've only ever watched the movies and read some of the Darth Vader comic they released. I just think they did Luke a massive disservice, and it wasn't consistent with his character. Not to mention the huge plothole that negated the second half of the movie. How did the guy who handed Finn and the girl over know the Rebels plan? Granted about the heavy handedness. But It feels to me they've really tacked on to some overly liberal narrative. We get it Disney, evil white …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:32 PM
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I think this depends on where you live. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4326504 As I'm in Europe that's probably why I'm flummoxed by the American posters who think every woman of quality marries around their mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 07:51 PM
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To Chads, I presume.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 07:46 PM
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I didn't like The Last Jedi. Though I think this reaction was foreseen, hence them ditching the 3 directors plan and getting Abrams back for the next one. The plot probably would have been better suited to an anthology film, set in the timeline of the original trilogy and sans Luke and Leia. That's not even mentioning how heavy handed they were with political commentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 05:50 PM
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Irrelevant really. If you cycle steroids correctly and give your body a break you minimize or even negate the negative effects. In fact if you struggle to get ripped naturally you probably have low test anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 01:17 PM
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Disagree. They're fundamentally different. TRP in its base state is the American dream interpreted to the smp I.e . a belief that with enough improvement and work you can be as successful as those who were privileged no matter who you are. The black pill is the sexual equivalent of a welfare scrounger or even in some instances a communist, they feel the chance of success is so remote you might as well give up, so better to do nothing or enforce a rigid equality on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:25 AM
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They can't bear to perform the biological male role, yet they love sex, want sex and are angry they can't get sex, which is the fulfillment of the biological role of men. So basically you're advocating them transitioning into trans lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 10:11 PM
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You forgot solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:05 PM
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I think you need to eat more. A lot of what you're describing, including the lack of resolve and motivation often happen if you're not eating enough, even on a cut. Try increasing your calories a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:38 PM
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Yeah it's a bit of a waste of time. Similar to talking about previous relationships. Everyone usually plays the poor victim when discussing past breakups, I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard the "my ex was abusive" line, and I've never heard anyone say "yeah my last breakup was on me, I was a piece of shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:25 AM
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Their use of scientific studies has always been questionable, and selective. Not that dissimilar to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:56 AM
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Yeah, this just strikes me as a somewhat socially immature and paranoid woman over thinking her discomfort at a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:08 PM
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Congratulations
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:03 AM
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its not a law. That's the point. It's the logging of certain situations as hate crimes when they meet a certain criteria. It doesn't make anything illegal that wasn't before. Eg. If you approach a girl in a bar and she blows you off it's not a problem. If she reports it they'll not even log it. However if you won't take no for an answer and follow her around the bar and harrass her, get angry and insult her, they'll log it if she reports it, but it's not a criminal act. That's what they're refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:22 AM
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Not upset women, but to be a low class misogynistic jerk yes. Plus its not really a crime, as in most cases when it hasn't crossed into what is deemed in national law to be harassment, nothing is done apart from to log it, and even then only when it fits a strict criteria in the guidelines. So an unwanted sexual advance is not just a guy asking a girl out when she's not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 09:55 AM
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It's not a good place for TRP. Twitter is better, if you look up Goldmund Unleashed, Alexander Cortes, and Ed Latimore, you'll see people who are TRP by their own definition, but you wouldn't guess it in real life. TRP the sub is full on anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 09:22 AM
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Yeah, I'm British. Just baffles me a lot of this, in the UK no one cares about a lot of this stuff. It's never even brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:35 PM
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Yeah. But I just don't see the use of people outside inner party circles knowing how Hispanic women voted, or African American men, etc etc. I see nothing positive coming from it. I see a lot of divisive shit slinging, and that's it. For the parties it's feedback and a good metric, but for the public? Pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:26 PM
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Lol'd. On a serious note there's really a case to be made for not publicly releasing demographics in elections. It's ceased being a useful tool and moved into just a moral chest thumping and indignant shaming exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:09 PM
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Yeah, and don't bank on people who've historically voted your side to continue to if you ignore them, and in some cases even slander them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 08:09 PM
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The Queens no bother, we just roll her out for special occasions, and who doesn't love royal weddings, Americans love them more than the Brits. Socialism definitely ain't cheap, it's crippling actually. Shippings done, but if we hadn't given over Singapore and Hong Kong we'd be rich, rich beyond our wildest dreams. Probably third largest economy in the world, add California to that and woof. Free money for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 08:07 PM
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Its also on a social level men are shamed for displays of emotions that aren't anger or aggression. Feminists call it toxic masculinity and say men enforce it on themselves and other men. But often it's enforced by women. Mothers often tell their sons that big boys don't cry, and women often are the ones using the phrase man up. Feminists themselves love their men's tears mugs and shirts. So men claim they're immune because they've been told they have to be. By everyone. Even those who claim the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:35 PM
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You can join the UK. We promise that in exchange for all your money and taxes we'll give you an NHS, mass socialism and lots of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:35 AM
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Wasn't the lack of cred, was more she did nothing to appeal to them. She appealed constantly to minorities and women. She dismissed the military and male sacrifice in war, saying women suffered most, and she labelled jobless and beaten men who leaned towards trumps promise of jobs and hope as deplorables. If her campaign teaches anything it's that despite what the media said pre election about whites becomming a minority and how it was almost impossible for whites to decide an election, they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:27 AM
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Not my experience. In my experience from talking to guys and experiencing it both hurt equally for different reasons. Physical cheating hurts men on a primitive psychological level. As it opens him up to cuckolding. Our brains don't know about abortions,q birth control and DNA tests on an instinctual level so to it any sex has a chance of pregnancy. That primitive fear doesn't exist for women. She might feel guilty but she can't understand the gut reaction the man will feel to a purely physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 09:30 AM
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Can't profile them. But a case I know quite well from the inside where I live, the woman was married and had kids. Basically she had a few drinks, went to a strange guys house for an after party and then when he went to bed she joined him a few minutes later and they had sex. Afterwards she spread his name on social media and cried rape to the police. A girl who works with my friend defended him. They got it dismissed and the guys now sueing her for defamation, and her husband is divorcing her. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:24 PM
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Maybe they just don't care, or being from conservative backgrounds made them see other issues as more important? When you see women as a monolithic entity that must care about the exact same things then yeah you'll be surprised a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:36 PM
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Not all of them, no. I've met plenty of women under 28 who have far more to them than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:02 PM
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America has a huge opiod problem amongst it's white middle and working classes. It's even been labelled by Obama I think it was as the national crisis hardly anyone talks about. Itd be tragic and sad, except you realize back in the 80s and 90s when it was blacks they jailed them all, and now it's whites they think underlying issues need to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:00 PM
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I swear I saw a post where many women here have said that it's very accurate when describing a certain type of woman like party girl/club diva, and women who leverage nothing but their looks or have nothing to offer but their looks. I think they mostly take issue when it's applied universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:01 AM
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Okay, I'm not American but watching CNN and can't help thinking they're over analysing the Alabama stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:23 AM
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Funniest thing I heard in Hong Kong recently was that the British Empire was built on the opioid addiction of much of its upper class. Just a bunch of junkies pillaging and robbing for our next hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:13 AM
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Yes. That's why I feel this backlash from some women on social media to men trying to protect themselves from even the slightest possibility of an accusation of impropriety is strange. The amount of women who will falsely accuse a man is very small, same as the number of men who rape or sexually assault women is small. But then the amount of people who will rob you is small as well, and we still lock our front doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:17 AM
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This stuff isn't new, I think it's just becomming more mainstream now in light of recent allegations. There was a great book written a couple of years ago by a woman who worked in Wall Street who pretty much expressed and addresses all these backlash points. EDIT - http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/sex-and-the-office-how-men-are-becoming-scared-to-help-female-colleagues-according-to-the-research-a6712326.html Found an article
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:20 AM
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People with issues like the op mentioned her having (rape victim aside) aren't exactly seen as great relationship material by men or women. Just by the way she was described, she'd have high likelihood of being excessively needy, insecure and jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:27 AM
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I'm not mentally ill (I know that makes me pretty unique in the modern world). I'm also sane enough to know that not everyone is mentally ill either, despite their claims. Also that you think your friend is great relationship material despite being "mentally fucked up" speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:46 AM
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She's honest. This generation in the west is full of pathetic crybabies. I bought her flowers and called her pretty and she wouldn't sleep with me, waaah. That man pinched my bum in a night club, waaah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:45 AM
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I suppose a question to the women here - https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/people-have-spotted-something-very-dark-in-hurricanes-mia-khalifa-tweet/ Is this really sexism and slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:15 AM
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Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:30 AM
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Yeah, and to be fair, though I'm sure she's lovely, with those issues she ain't high RMV/MMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:22 AM
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Yeah they're fleeting, they come for about a week in my experience and leave afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:56 AM
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I think a lot of people, myself included, have even changed without realizing it too. So you have the bigger changes, but many smaller ones that are not noticeable maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:55 AM
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I love cats. My friends and I have had one for years. Biggest alpha male you'll meet. Zero fucks given, look on his face that he wants you to die all the time. Cute af. We named him Stevens. Cat Stevens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 08:14 AM
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It's not really hard to understand. First think of why it's called peacocking. Then think why do peacocks display their feathers. Men peacocking shows many high value traits. One is that He is standing out from the crowd, and is comfortable doing so. This, if done well, shows high confidence and a touch of rebelliousness that research shows women find attractive. He is giving an eff you to conformity, and women are mostly the biggest conformers in society, when you think things such as fashion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 08:07 AM
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That also stems from lack of social awareness, people think social interactions need to be like the movies and tv, scripted and perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 07:50 AM
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Eh, to be fair the OP is the one BPer here you can begin to understand their motivations by their posts. He is the one that if every other BPer here agreed with a RPer, would disagree. Eg a RPer could write a post of every disgusting and misandristic thing well known feminists have said about men, and he is the only BPer I can think of who'd move beyond making excuses for their words and actively defend them and claim they're right to say it. There are plenty of RPers who are the same though, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:14 PM
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Thank you. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:00 PM
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I think it best to look at it from a detached point of view. This may be convuluted but bare with me. In the corporate world there are many types of risk. One that ties in here is financial risk. So you think of Deutsche Bank. They were investigated and found guilty of assisting in money laundering. They had heavy fines etc levied against them. That's a financial loss. But long term another type of risk hurts them more. Reputational risk. Their standing among the business and public is heavily d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:09 PM
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I'm beginning to think a lot of these fears come down to men and women losing their ability to decipher social cues and intent. The more socially awkward the populace gets, the more this fear among women and men grows. Thanks smartphones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/yCDXMMGWJd0 Well that puts family guy in a new light. The Weinstein joke was wowzers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:21 PM
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Pretty much. But in typical European style, they refuse to single out the problem group. Easier for them to just generalize for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:31 AM
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Not necessarily killing other men. Human females are very choosy maters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 06:01 PM
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He's talking 100,000 years. Civilization is around 10-20k years. There was no wealth disparity as there was no concept of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:41 PM
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To make money. Or for the same reason you're on ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:34 PM
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Blogging, its not hard to monetize with ads and affiliates. Plus get a big enough following, write an ebook and sell it on Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:56 PM
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Quillette is good as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 08:58 AM
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Most of the gurus are using TRP as a shot at making money online, so the internet is their office, so it stands to reason they spend time online. They're self employed and their own marketing. Plus being online isn't sitting infront of a computer anymore. They might type out their long posts or articles on a laptop or pc at home, but they can fire off reddit replies and tweets anywhere, at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:39 AM
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I don't even know who this guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:35 PM
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Yeah too much of a homage to the originals. I suppose necessary when you consider the bad taste from the prequels (though I liked episode 3). I think they needed to prove they could capture the mood of the original trilogy. They did, though as you said, was too much. Episode 8 is supposedly extremely different though, but time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:38 AM
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I don't mind the new Star Wars, as we have 2 movies where more will be revealed about Rey. If it was standalone I would have thought it bullshit though. She's really able to just pick up mind tricks that Jedi masters took years to learn and master off the bat? Really able to beat Kylo who slaughtered all the new Jedi and forced Luke into hiding with no prior training? The justifications for Rey were BS too from columinists. "But Luke beat Vader!!" Yeah, Vader wasn't trying, he was toying with Lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 07:22 AM
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It wasn't a Mad Max movie. It was good though. My issue was in building up the women characters they relegated Max and turned him into a bumbling incompetent moron. My issue with recasting is that it's unnecessary, and its mostly just a political stunt. The new Ghostbusters for example wasn't improved by gender switching the roles. However I like some of the new female roles. I loved Emily Blunt in Live.Die.Repeat for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 07:05 AM
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Yes, which is why the higher the minimum wage, the higher the unemployment among unskilled workers. It's one of the economic conundrums of our time. Neither political side has any grasp on making it work as again, the rights advocation of tax cuts to businesses does not guarantee an increase in jobs. In actual fact it often leads to companies repatriotizing money to buy back shares.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 08:40 AM
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Yes. Hilarious fact of life is that capitalism is the best vehicle we have for the uplifting of people from poverty, not socialism, not communism. People who are given enough for free lack motivation to improve, generally. Case study in point - Vietnam. Equal rice for everybody? Economy tanked. Basic safety nets? Stagnation. Market Capitalism? Drastically lowering rates of poverty and the fastest growing economy in se Asia. Its the inconvenient truth of western socialist ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:20 AM
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I can see what you mean about western women. But I know exceptions, and I try and give each the benefit of the doubt. My mother is the one who often points out that most women in the UK aren't wife or mother material. She finds their confidence and independence has too often crossed into selfishness and narcissism. But then she thinks most men would make shit husbands as well. Both sexes are reacting to each other, and its getting worse, like a snowball going down the hill. The more men are port…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:12 AM
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Closing the stable door after the horses have bolted? Pointless. The West has enterred it's decline ala Rome. Victory's fire has been extinguished, our leaders are incompetent puppets, and if you listen really closely, the barbarians are approaching the gates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:39 PM
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She claimed she was too scared to speak out and only felt comfortable doing so now. Apparently all the incidents are being investigated. I doubt the company will publicize the results though and it never provided any names even of the accuser, just the country of complaint. The company has doubled down on its fraternization policy of late. It's always frowned on office romances and flirting, but now it's really warning about it, including introducing mandatory waivers and disciplinaries for non …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:17 PM
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Micro transactions. The whole loot box system has become absurd. They've devolved it into an RNG gambling simulator where you need to pay to get randomized loot boxes in order to hope to progress at any decent pace. Otherwise, 1000 hours till you get Darth Vader. I'm not adverse to microtransactions, but in this case I object on the following principles - If I want Darth Vader, let me just pay for Darth Vader. Stop with the random loot box bollocks. Don't make it almost impossible for any casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 10:58 AM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:50 AM
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I fell in love with Goa Trance last year. That shit blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:44 AM
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Xbox's exclusive selection is shit unfortunately but then there's a dirth of good games in general currently. I was looking forward to battlefront ii but won't buy it on principle now. Skyrim is okay on the Xbox, if you like that sort of game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:44 AM
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My friends have this experience. Beauty can be a double edged sword. Guys think they're too hot to be single or out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:36 AM
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Not if managed well. Testosterone isn't harmful within the normal range. But a guy might look and feel much better if he's at the higher end of the range compared to the lower end without any impact on his fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I don't think its a coincidence that more and more people claim to have social disorders now since smartphones became the norm. My assistant at work is the same. She is single, unhappily so, and doesn't know how to interact with people, particularly men. I keep telling her to stop emailing and texting people in the office regarding work matters and to go and talk to them. Don't email the credit team chasers 5 times, pick up the phone, or better yet, go up the 3 floors and talk to them in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:28 AM
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Did you read some of the metoo stuff? Some of the things women consider harassment nowadays are moronic, and worrying, especially as companies seem to listen to them. Even my companies women's group sent out a circular with stories from women who are part of the group from around the world. Some were horrific (mostly from India), many of the others were on the blurred line, but a fair number were ridiculous. "He thought he had the right to ask me out because we smiled at each other" for example.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:33 AM
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Yeah I'm concerned, and I've seen articles expressing this concern when talking about the recent outrage, many of them from women. I think the end result if this trend continues to exacerbate without any checking is that men will simply not approach if they have anything of value to lose. Which would be a negative for both men and women. Women would have to be so blatant in their interest so as to avoid crossed wires, or ask the men out themselves. More than likely we'd end up with a lot of unha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:37 PM
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I don't really care about impressing girls with music. I surf and I play music. I do them for my enjoyment, and to spend time with friends. My last serious girlfriend had no idea I played until she spent time with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 06:04 PM
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I can play instruments. I just choose not to be a bitch assed guy who walks around with his guitar constantly and uses it to impress people. Being musical for me extends to fun jamming with friends when we're bored. People can play guitars without being cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:41 AM
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...and why our culture is stagnating. Think of all great cultural revolutions in history, and you'll find a sizable amount of offended people. The moment you try and offend no one is the moment any art form or idea dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:55 AM
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My problem with it is its a false paranoia, most women aren't actually raped (as in forced penetration) and its horrible some are, but to drive home their rape point feminists often end up throwing in debatable if not nonsensical incidents such as 'he stared at me in a way that made me uncomfortable'. I've seen that referred to as 'stare rape' or 'raping me with his eyes' when using the word rape in that context is absurd. In fact a lot of the metoo hashtag responses were so ridiculous I actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 03:29 AM
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I've walked out on a date who was on her phone constantly. That was an experience. Its easy to think it's on you, but from what I've been told by a lot of men and women they've had experience of the same, even in a non dating situation. Not much you can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:07 AM
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Big Cities mostly yea. But not every big city, but generally a certain type of city, and certain areas within them. Think London, Paris, Milan, NYC, LA, Sydney etc. The type of city where a 'work hard, play harder' attitude is often normal, particularly among the young professional class.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:42 AM
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No it provides insight into men. There's a reason why those books are still around, that most of our oldest books are books on ideals. They'll give you far more insight into men than reading a cheesy romance novel some dude wrote. But women have no empathy for men beyond those close to them, same as men for women. Empathy comes from shared experiences. Men going to war against their will and dying means nothing on an empathic level to women as they've never experienced that. They can sympathize …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:22 AM
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Their work did outlive them, just not in the way they expected. Alexander spread Greek influence and learning east. The Romans and later the Muslims used that philosophy heavily and that gave us the foundations of modern science and law. Rome did become an Empire, and Augustus pushed through many of the reforms Caesar intended. He shattered the republican ideals, and the plebs and army never wanted it back. Napoleons ideals influence French and European laws and customs today. Italy is still uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:14 AM
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They're not dark triad. I know a lot of them as part of my work. They're workaholics and often times OCD. But not dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:46 AM
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But they're written by a select few men through history. So they're not markers of how men think as much as markers on how men who write things down think. The overwhelming majority of books provide nothing about mens thoughts, as a man I can tell you that. I feel no connection to the author or to the words. The only books I can think of that actually provide deep insight into men's thought processes are Nietzsche, Aristotle, Cicero etc. But the amount of women who actually read those is slim, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:36 AM
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I read that article. My first thought was that she put it up as she openly admits being bipolar and making bad decisions. Think she is really trying to justify to herself that this isn't another one of those lol. Probably is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:26 AM
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What they say was true in the past. You can see those traits in most 'great' leaders in history. It was just how it was. Now though our laws, checks and balances etc make it hard for those type of people to rise to the top and if they do they're limited on their possible impact. They're not valued and often they're marginalized. It's both a good and a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 01:58 AM
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She's not wrong. It's about how balanced they are, and the rest of the persons personality. Everybody has those traits within them to varying levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 01:46 AM
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I think historically that's true. However now we have social media, women commentators on media, feminist writers, a lot of famous books written by women (fifty shades etc), can see what movies etc women invariably like etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 01:41 AM
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Yeah, they're not treated equally by society even though they're much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 01:34 AM
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Thought they shared similarities for a while. A lot of what RP thinks of feminism is a few select writers such as Jessica Valenti, Laurie Penny, Clementine Ford etc. They're mostly, rightly or wrongly, feminisms public face. Many of them write things that if gender flipped sound like they could come from a TRPer. Laurie Penny for example has actually tweeted in the past that men are children and can never be trusted. Gender flip that and it sounds exactly like a TRPer. Jessica Valenti's 'This we…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:22 PM
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What a ridiculous thing to say to a woman. Now, if you went to her father, that's different. "Sir, may I have your permission to engage in coitus with your beloved daughter?" Always a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:01 AM
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There's more than one reason for number two. Many Indian men particularly the uneducated have a tendency to do horribly inappropriate things in public with regards to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:43 PM
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I don't know. But I'm not particularly hopeful about his ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:27 PM
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Yeah, that stuffs so generic it's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:22 PM
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That'd times his submissions by about 15 though, and he's already submitting a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:16 PM
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Maybe the anger partly comes from people doing things like the OP has done. In my experience nothing annoys people more than this form of dismissive attitude to their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:33 AM
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I had that in WoW. Played a female troll. Had a female-ish name. Got guys assuming I was a girl irl. I never corrected them and just let them give me free shit. A girl friend of mine played a male orc and actively told people I was a girl so we'd get free stuff we'd split 50/50 or I'd get gear as I played less than she did. People actually used to skip on gear they needed so I'd get it. Those were the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:30 AM
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Stopped being funny when the burning crusade came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:16 AM
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Can't argue with that. In fact the best advice I ever got was from my mentor at work when I was in my early 20s. He told me to spend my 20s preparing for my 30s, as that's the decade where men come into their own. He told me that when I told him I wanted to be married by 25, 30 at the latest. It's why you have to laugh when you read articles from women in their 30s about how men in that age range aren't settling down and want just fun or to date around. He's finally in a spot where he's mature e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:30 AM
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...and on everyday feminism as well. Which is a resource I've seen many feminists use, not so much on this sub but elsewhere to explain their views. https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/concern-trolling-is-bullshit/ Personally I was with them until they said "fat doesn't kill"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:05 AM
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This times 100. The women I know almost universally find modern media feminism jarring and annoying. They see it as wanting all the benefits of freedom with none of the risks. My mum, aunts, friends all see actual feminism as facts based not feelings based. But by the same token when I was really red pill I almost lost them completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:45 AM
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Problem with racism/sexism complaints in the workplace is they become very 'boy who cried wolf'. Many are so quick to shout it in every situation even where it is not warranted that many tune them out completely in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 05:55 PM
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Yea exactly. I wouldn't say it's different at all for women with player type men. It's a vibe they give off. I don't think a really high notch count from either sex is good for LTRs. Going from variety to just one is hard. But we have a lot of wishful thinking that people can just wake up one day and they've changed. I'm skeptical of the phrase 'my past doesn't define me' generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:19 AM
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No still not his fault. He's a hypocrite, but show me a single human being who isn't in some manner, but he's not responsible for her relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:50 AM
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As for number 3. There's no way of definitely knowing. However there are some signs in actions and in looks and words. They're not fool proof at all, but they're an indication. So if a woman is really quick to escalate sexually with someone she just met and acts in a way that nothing fazes her sexually, would be an example. That confidence has likely come through repetition. It's unlikely a woman will drag you into a club toilet to suck you off and have sex if she's not done that a fair number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 09:15 AM
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If she allows herself to be seduced out of the relationship, it's on her. She has agency and she has options. She's ultimately choosing to leave rather than work out issues. She chose to be receptive to a third party, she chose to flirt back, she chose to sleep with him etc. That would go for a guy as well. We all can choose to work it out, or to leave. The third party is never to blame though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:55 AM
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It's her fault, she chose. A man can attempt to seduce a woman, but if he succeeds its on her. Most average or above women even with boyfriends or husbands get hit on often, they're fully capable and often do reject those advances. It's not the guys job to care about her relationship, it's hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 05:57 AM
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This view is mostly from the Titanic and has permeated our culture Carte Blanche. Thing most don't realize and as you pointed out was this action wasn't common or expected back then. It was the Captains on the Titanics decision and enforced by his staff. That scene is in every movie as well, including the pregnant pause from the first mate when he says it. It's also got to be balanced against the fact it was upper class women and children, not lower class etc. Since the Titanic though this view …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 03:51 AM
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America's anti imperialism, pro freedom stance has backfired tremendously in the whole region. Mostly because they propped up the dictators they then helped overthrow, and also because many cultures in the world haven't had any enlightenment or historical context to give them concepts of freedom or what democracy even means. They went from warlords or kings to imperialism to hey ho FREEDOM! Then we wonder why it all went to shit with dictators and sectarian conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:22 AM
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Grab is the best one I've ever used. If they had the inclination to expand beyond Asia Uber would be fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:58 AM
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I could only narrow it down to 3... https://youtu.be/qv96yJYhk3M https://youtu.be/TmSRMWw8Y_0 https://youtu.be/4Rg3sAb8Id8 (I was a 13 year old boy lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:44 AM
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I would be too busy playing with my boobs to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:48 PM
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Plate spinning has always struck me as an incel fantasy, attractive women or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:47 PM
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I never said it always happens, and it's not what I said at all. A RP divorce rape fantasy would be "She keeps the house forever whilst you pay for it." Nowhere did I say that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:01 AM
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Not what I said at all, and not what happens. You're interpreting it through the lens they do. The "me me me" lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 09:41 AM
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Traditionally and historically what we know of as romantic love was mostly seen as destructive and/or tragic. It's in many of the most famous stories of love. The story of Helen and Paris, Romeo and Juliette, Wuthering Heights etc. That all changed really in the last 50-100 years , where the idea that you should only marry for that kind of love became the norm. We tend to look at arranged marriages now as bad, yet when you visit cultures that still have them and speak to people in them, their ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:58 AM
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No its not. Its just life. Otherwise known as looking out for the interests of the children in divorce. Some guys might think of it that way, but most divorced guys I know in that situation don't see it that way. If the mother moves the kids may have to change schools and lose that area of continuity in their lives. The kids being in the family home they know in a school they know with friends is for the best in a time where theyre in a confusing time in their lives. Only people who are selfish …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:13 AM
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In most of history in the upper classes both men and women were accepted as having affairs provided they didn't rub their partners nose in it and were discreet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:57 AM
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No where did I say divorce rape is a thing. I said the man often ends up with financial obligations from a divorce that deter him from seeking one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:49 AM
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To me it's a 'keeping up appearances' thing. People have known about casting couch stuff for years. Its so well known pornography has routinely spoofed it. Girl wants acting part so sleeps with the guy to get it. Guy offers job on condition of sex etc. It's a cultural hang up the western world has from the British/French and the Romans further back than that. People were okay with it whilst it was behind closed doors and not talked about. People in the upper classes for example routinely knew th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:48 AM
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The lawyer I went on a date with a few weeks back is like this. I think I mentioned it in the off topic then that I walked out after she was nose in phone for 30 minutes with one word answers. Since then holy crap it's been drama. Text storms threatening me with all sorts, followed hours later by voice mails of her crying how she is so sorry. Creating drama at her work about me. I'm lucky my friend works there and her colleagues know me really well from years of being my friends plus one at soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:27 AM
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Wow I agree with you for once. I'd also add other traits such as a woman being obsessed with her looks to the point of narcissism. That can be toxic to her and to those around her. She's taken a feminine role of wanting to look good and based her self esteem around it, to the point of possibly damaging her relationships and herself. A girl I work with is like that. She'll spend all her salary on clothes and cosmetics. Expects her long term boyfriend and her father to bail her out for money for f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:02 AM
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No, I think shared finances are the ultimate sign of trust and commitment in the capitalist world we live in, even more than the act of marriage itself. If you're with the right person you will want to share everything. To me that includes financial success and hardships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:42 AM
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I never said that. You're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:16 AM
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They are irrelevant, they have so many holes they're pretty much useless paper. If you're married a long time, the court can void the prenup. If you have kids they can void the prenup. If the terms are considered too harsh, the court can void it. Most states and countries don't even accept prenups. Prenups offer no guarentees. They can, and do. it's not a conspiracy. It happens for example if he is the sole breadwinner and children are involved. The courts don't like causing any more upheaval to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:38 PM
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The premise was she was divorcing because she had already found someone else. Aka marrying up, so in this case it's irrelevant whether she could as we're assuming she has already. Prenups are irrelevant and often thrown out by courts routinely, particularly when children are involved. In many states or countries it's not uncommon for a woman with children to get to stay in the home so as to provide extra stability to the children in a turbulent time. The mortgage is partially or fully (depending…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:44 AM
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Where's the drawback? She invariably keeps custody of any children, a chunk of the savings, a place to live at least temporarily on his dime, child support and potentially alimony. That and she gets a new guy on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:48 AM
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That's just those who responded. It means nothing for the whole. Possible reason however might be that when you have children you become less idealistic and more pragmatic. That might lead people to having harder views on the world of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:21 AM
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It made me realize not all feminists are awful. The application I took from it was I don't need a heavy object handy every time I'm going to be around one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:20 AM
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I know that. I'm saying more that if both a man or a woman were married (not to each other) with kids but fell in love with their boss and divorced their spouse the woman has far higher chances of extracting a positive financial but neutral emotional outcome than the man does. If that woman was so inclined to trade up, she hasn't got the drawbacks (legally and financially) the man would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:26 AM
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Its easy. I explained it earlier. Fundamentally the difference is that liberals don't base how a person should think on their sex, orientation or skin colour. To leftists in the US, a woman who is pro life is anti-women, a black republican is an uncle Tom or race traitor. You see a lot of mainstream media push behind it as well. This strange idea that women and minorities should hold uniform political views. In Europe hardly anyone honestly sees a black guy who votes right wing as a race traitor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:35 AM
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We do have similar. But it's not as institutionally viable for the average man. Divorce laws encourage men to remain married. Rich men can divorce and trade up for sure. But if the average woman wants to divorce and trade up, she has more incentive. She'll get Money out of it etc and if her new fella is wealthy then she doesn't even need that she can leave scotfree. Not so for men, if he wants to trade partners he'll end up paying for it. Seeing as a mans earnings are a symbol of status that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:34 AM
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We're terrible really. But it's glorious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:13 AM
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We Brits operate on degrees of okay. That's still not totally 'not okay' either. He still did it with a mate, for example. Eh, we're so fucked up. Only nation on earth where a woman can get get blasted drunk, vomit, piss and even shit on a pavement and men still would with that girl, seconds afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:12 AM
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Wasn't in tune with beta cockblockers and the lengths they'll go to. So sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:03 AM
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That chick managed to get herself some strange dick on the side, and not only dupe her husband but billions of people into believing her. Fair play to her. That's some high end persuasion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:02 AM
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Most Incels don't stay incels. They'll often end up getting married, just not to the woman of their dreams but more likely to a woman who is more accepting of their quirks and weirdness. Most incels only stay that way because they have high standards. Most incels are volcel, they're a 4 who wants a 10. Incels think women are disgusted by them because they judge women as that model who gave them a bad look. My point is it comes to trade offs. All things equal on two women such as age, personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:53 AM
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Liberals support all rights being fixed in the public and governmental sphere. Not in the private sphere. Liberals want fairness in general, they believe in judgement on the content of your character not your physical characteristics. Leftists focus on minorities and women. So a liberal will fight with minorities, men, or whoever to fix an institutional inequality in the government (such as selective service being only men) but wouldn't care about things like manspreading. Liberals are free spee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:39 AM
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Not strictly true. Classical liberals and leftists overlap on all those issues. The best way to describe a classical liberal is as a cross between libertarian and leftist. They are pro smaller government (than we often have now) but not to the extent of a libertarian. They believe that a bigger government drives inequality, and doesn't fix it. The larger a government gets the more chance it'll lose its connection to the people and the bigger chance it'll create inequality based on that. So a lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:20 AM
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Charismatic? You think Ed Sheeran is charismatic? Justin Bieber? Most of their charisma is trained into them, particularly if they're in performance vocations like music, acting etc. It's all for show, they're not actually all charismatic chads. I didn't say it makes them undateable, I said it lowers their SMV, particularly if they're young single mothers (<30), which is why they tend to date down. Young guys don't want to date a woman who has kids, particularly if he's attractive and high in SM…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:12 PM
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Not automatically, but often they are. That isn't what makes them low value though, its their attitudes, and their lives. Take away that one thing they're good at and you end up almost uniformly with a bland, boring and immature person. I haven't redefined high value differently than most women on here would define it. They're the ones who tell everyone that looks and earnings don't mean high value. Also you're the one who brought up that Gwen Stefani was dating a good looking guy as if that pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:39 PM
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I'd add Instagram to that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:18 PM
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Definitely. I found her body language and facial expressions in that video brilliant as well. Lying through her teeth. That relationship died the moment she snatched the phone off him and tried to change the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:15 PM
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Don't have to tell myself, I see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:48 PM
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Yeah and celebrities count as normal people, and I'm the weird one. People who are entitled, spoilt and act like the biggest children and often routinely grope and rape women are "high quality", got ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:47 PM
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You have to define what you mean by "Liberal" first. Because being honest, as a European, I don't see any liberalism in the US, at least in the establishment. What you call Liberal is actually Leftist, whilst often what you think of as a Conservative or Libertarian view is actually Liberal. Which is sad, as the US Constitution was written by Liberals. I'd say they're slightly to the right of Classical Liberal on the scale, on average. Mostly because they do espouse the power of the individual, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:24 PM
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Not with high value men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 02:56 PM
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I'd say I look for similar personality traits and characteristics in a new partner that I liked in a previous partner. They don't have to be copies of each other, but I think it makes sense from a growth point of view to learn from previous relationships what you liked or didn't like, and to try and avoid the bad whilst still having at least some of the good traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:49 AM
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Yeah, got so many examples. A black guy I knew from school was the smartest kid in class till he was 15. Then he stopped showing up, hung around drug dealers and gangs, ended up in prison. Now he works a menial job in kfc as he's got no qualifications plus a record. He's done nothing to improve his lot, unless you think complaining about racism and white privilege counts as improving your lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:31 AM
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Single mum's are to high value men what incels are to high value women. It's what I told my mate who bemoans that he only seems to get attention from attractive women when they're single mum's. He's a 6, she might be an 8 or 9 in looks, but with the baggage of a child she's a 5 or 6 now too when it comes to relationships, particularly if she's under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:44 AM
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It's a western society model, ironically borne out of the freedoms we prize so much. We have the ability to make choices yet want to be insulated from the consequences of bad choices, and we are. If you eat like shit it's okay, health is free, don't want to do that job, it's okay the government will pay you to sit on your ass etc. I always say to people to go to places like Vietnam, go to the places outside of the tourist areas in Saigon. See the 60 plus year old women who sleep on the floor or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:54 AM
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They're not clueless I think. They just ended up with crushing student debts for doing what they were told was the right thing.They go to university to get a piece of paper, often with no idea what they really want to do in life and realize only afterwards they've been saddled with a bill that'll take years to pay off on the back of it. Then they're told by their parents generation they should be out and alone by 23 not living with them, which equals more outgoings. Or they have to move to get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:33 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/jPlOC Oh America, you're so disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:14 AM
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It's really not. You're looking at things through tinted glasses. When feminists say "don't trust men" or whinge about any habit men have they don't like, they're not being equal to both genders, they're doing the same thing as you think we're doing here, or what TRP does. They're stereotyping and wanting to put men down, like you are. What have I said that makes you think I want to use women? I could list a dozen men here, and challenge that. You're projecting your hatred of men onto people her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:56 PM
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I think it'd qualify everywhere. But like with women, it's only assault if you don't find the other person attractive. Plus sexual assault on men isn't taken seriously by the police or bouncers at all. I've complained before about a fat woman who followed me for 30 minutes slapping and pinching my ass, and even licking my face. I got laughed at and she carried on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:37 PM
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I've had a woman in a club grab my dick through my jeans and then say "your package is acceptable" Not a terrible action, seeing as she was hot, but the words killed everything. "Acceptable" as a compliment, REALLY? Acceptable and adequate are two words that should never be used to express sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:21 PM
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I've seen how selfish men are on PPD, it makes me look at things in a more critical way. Why should I keep giving to men when they are so bad? Weird, when I was into TRP I used to have the same view on women when I read the claptrap feminists or just women online put out on men and how it's retweeted and commented on etc thousands of times by women like a moronic hive mind. Then I stepped out of it and saw that men are as bad, and human beings in general are bad. Most people in the west live bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:06 PM
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Yeah, I think the only red flags from a woman's past sexually for me would be if she'd had an obscene number of partners (like 40 or 50 plus), cheated on previous boyfriends, or I found out she did gangbangs or something routinely (once is an experiment, weird but whatever, but if shes into it constantly that's different)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:54 PM
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I don't feel being free from sex is the goal for either women or men, even those GTOW. Both are free when they know they can get sex when they want it and without too much effort. Women, particularly if average or above in looks, due to men's thirst, usually have that by default, as you say. Most MGTOW on the internet are just incels trying to spin it into being volcel or trying to make out they're making a grand sacrifice for some greater good. Some of them act like they are to the SMP what Gan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:49 PM
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Bingo. All guys suffer to varying degrees with at least some of these, particularly the second to last one. There's always someone better looking, slightly bigger muscles, more tanned, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:02 PM
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Ah, see this is cultural as well. For example, in the UK it's considered polite to say that. It's part of the weird double speak and social politeness we have. As a Brit, this wouldn't be a sign of interest on its own. I think in America or elsewhere I would. Many foreigners have fallen for it here though, my friends have said similar not expecting him to do it, with no interest in their part apart from being nice, and its awkward as he'll if he shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:42 PM
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Going to play devils advocate and say this isn't that different than the serial dating some women do anyway. The women who goes on dates, pretends interest because she wants to be wined and dined in nice places (usually beautiful, cash poor and want a taste of the high life) and rarely give more than a kiss on the cheek. I'd like to say most guys have experience with this type of woman, directly or indirectly. On the plus side they're more honest than the above women with regards to intent. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:26 PM
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I'd imagine if they're asexual then they wouldn't need to pay money to beautiful women to be around. Ugly women or even men would do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:17 PM
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Agreed. Its just prostitution and gold digging by a new name, without the social stigma attached to those other terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:15 PM
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Yeah this. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/the-sexual-reformation-has-opened-up-a-schism-between-women-and-men/ Goes into this a bit. There was a pretty notable male feminist writer for the guardian who wrote a year or so ago that men should have the fear of death when talking to and having sex with women. He was talking in context of college sexual assaults. Not hard to see him believing this uniformly however. Also seen a lot of feminist writers putting articles up in the wake of the Holly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:18 AM
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I think they're lying though. Truth is if they're with the guy they're giving him something, and its not just someone attractive to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:51 AM
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I'd say it's more what she thinks she wants her man to do. A cartoon about women trying to change the man they're dating to be more of an 'ideal boyfriend', succeeding, then breaking up with him because he's 'not the guy I fell in love with anymore' became really widely shared on social media about a year ago. There's a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:28 AM
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Leftists. Actual Liberals are the bomb, and they're the opposite of leftists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:55 AM
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**puts on robe and wizard hat*
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:46 AM
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This. Always baffled me that people hold up the school sports star for example as alpha, when in reality the alpha to women is the bad boy outsider. Look at any high school or college movie women love, and its the bad boy biker type that's the focus, not the jock.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 02:05 AM
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I'd say zero, but probably a lot. I'm really selfish actually (in terms of I won't do anything I don't want to do), so I feel the amount of women who could put up with me for the rest of my life is small in percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:56 AM
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Yeah, in the UK no access to guns, and majority have no idea how to even get hold of one. Mostly we just get shit faced drunk and go to Cambodia to blow up a cow with a bazooka.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:00 AM
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Might just be that the underlying cause remains but people have greater difficulty gaining access to the guns so don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:57 AM
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Man, he's not wrong in the creep II article.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:51 AM
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It's a college campus. Title IX complaints and who said what are generally well known among the student bodies. You're in a closed eco system, which is why you often see the accused brings up how everyone knew and how they were ostracized despite the investigators saying it's private. Usually the accused talks to a friend who lets it slip out elsewhere, or because the accused is usually told to stay off campus and banned from university events which is rare, people put two and two together. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:45 AM
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Seems to me the investigator went in with a presumption of guilt and cherry picked the evidence that supported their conclusion and ignored the rest. This happens in all courts, that's partly why in criminal court you have a defense team to take the prosecution to task and a jury who is supposed to be unbiased who evaluates both sides. Like all systems, human bias can be it's undoing. Title IX did call for unbiased investigations, but unfortunately the way it was set up procedurally with no cros…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:40 AM
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Otherwise known as taking the normal growing up process people have sexually, and applying negative and nefarious intentions to it, but only for women, as men are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:19 AM
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To me red pill is synonymous with anger and bitterness, so the progression was blue pill naivete, to red pill anger, to purple pill acceptance. Also because to me being purple means you can accept human beings in general are self serving. Red Pill makes men believe women are, which serves a use, but go too deep and you end up with a lot of the trpers you see who seem to believe men are so perfect and only women have problems or a 'nature'. A common one I see is that men are selfless because we b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:13 AM
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Hmm, I think systems of power exist, and far from men covering things up just because there's a brotherhood, they cover things up to use as leverage for favours later (blackmail), and women do it too. This happens a lot in places of power, like major city law firms, Hollywood, the upper echelons of banks, and particularly governments. Feminists would have us believe the women who came forward in the Weinstein case for example kept silent for years because they were all intimidated or felt ashame…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:39 AM
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My ex had rape fantasies. More because she was really in control in many areas of her life so liked the idea of not being in control for a while. Not too dissimilar to why a lot of high powered men go to dominatrixes. We acted it out once, but it took a lot of talking over before and after not about the acts but making sure both of us were okay with it emotionally. Not something I'd do again in a hurry. They do exist, but to live them out takes an openness sexually and trust that many don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:21 AM
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To me the use of objectification is dangerous. Not because some of the concepts they talk about don't exist, but because it can easily be used as a form of morality and/or male sexuality policing. That's the reason the TERFs used it so much in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Also because if a woman chooses to go into porn, or take her top off for a sleazy magazine, it's her right. Baring in mind many porn stars come from middle class backgrounds and had choices. Now we want to treat them like lost little …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:41 PM
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Male ingenuity at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:25 AM
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The only thing The Sun was ever good for was the page 3 girls and it doesn't even have those anymore. FFS Feminism. Can't look at boobs, can't say the word boobs on TV anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:17 AM
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Loads of women like that, Tomi Lahren is a famous one. She's just attention whoring, though she's not wrong about the Berkeley exam thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:33 AM
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My experience when I've carried a condom on me and hooked up is many women see it as awkward and a bit of a turn off. Like I'm going out expecting sex as opposed to just being safe. The "player" comment comes up a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:20 AM
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Studies have shown many men would be happy for more BC options in theory - https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Male-Contraception-Attitudes-Surveys-and-Research-3-24-16.pdf https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161102080117.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:16 AM
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Well generally if you're getting divorce raped then 2 things have happened. You've colosally fucked up, (either in the relationship or in some excessive and silly revenge against your soon to be ex), and you had a shit lawyer. Learn the lessons of both, move away and start again. If you had a business and she took half, sell your half etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:29 PM
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Possibly. But some people are masterful manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:13 PM
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Yeah. Plus a lot of TRP theory on women comes from high end night club 'diva' culture. When you put most of their rhetoric into that context, they're right. When they apply it to all women you can poke so many holes in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:35 PM
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Where I live both sexes do that, and funnily enough both blame the other side for making them like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:18 AM
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Not a red piller, British so couldn't vote, but probably wouldn't have voted. Both candidates were awful. Trumps just funny to me, the more he opens his mouth the less I take seriously the stuff about him being "literally Hitler!" The Red Pill is hard to judge. I can see a majority of the MGTOW types voting for Trump or not voting at all. The rest of TRP is mixed I'd say, though I'd hazard a guess that based on the TRP blogs they read that they are mostly Classical Liberal or Libertarian. I coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:14 PM
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Exactly. There's a reason most stories written about love through history were tragedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:04 PM
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He's talking shit tests, not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 12:09 PM
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https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw https://youtu.be/B_CHjYoqPUU I like this guy, he's clearly undergone his consent training. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 01:10 PM
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The last paragraph of that article made me laugh. "Yeah you're miserable, but look at all that voting you do and money you can earn!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:12 AM
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It is what it is. I have always got on with German guys, but to me, and at least the other Brits I've spoken to, the women are nonstarters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:37 AM
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The times I've been there just felt a lot of hostility from them, but that might have been the areas I visited, and because the last time it was just post-Brexit. Other Brits staying in hostels with us at the time felt the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:45 PM
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I'd add the caveat of native English speaking but not British.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:55 PM
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Men in dead bedrooms need to manipulate the availability of toilet paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:57 PM
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Kids generally get caught in the middle in a divorce as well, and get weaponized, particularly when one side carries a grudge. One of my wealth clients hasn't seen his kids in 7 years because his ex played the system and he gave up when he realized that he was spending a fortune on lawyers only for her to move the goalposts. He never got the visitation he was awarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:37 PM
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I don't think it's looked down upon actually. I think the sad fact is that divorce is normal now. People usually stay in bad marriages for the children or to save themselves financial pain. At least in my area of work most of the divorces I hear about come about once the youngest child hits 18 or otherwise becomes independent. Don't think thats a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:01 PM
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Agreed. Which is why I've said previously that prior to industrialization society's had to keep most men happy and contributing, and the easiest way to do that was through easy and guaranteed access to sex and the ability to have children. Hence Patriarchy in the past. Don't need that back though, finding other solutions would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:33 AM
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I think it possibly comes down to communication styles? As a guy I'm struggling to think of a time I've ever had to deal with 'catty' or 'snarky' remarks from guys that the women in my life deal with from other women. That plus men aren't really as invested in what other men think of them, say, appearance wise, as women seem to be with eachother. We just don't talk much about how we look, and if we do it's usually to issue a maximum 4 word compliment. I say that because most of the 'mean girl' s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:45 AM
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Boys don't understand it, we stay well clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:34 AM
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As a guy I think this comes from men's perception of women's interactions, and that men's egos are fragile when it comes to women. A comment from a woman has twice the impact on a man than the same comment would from another man, particularly if it's disparaging. That and from my friends I can say there's so much subtext in women's interactions compared to men's. A comment like "your hair looks much better today" can be interpreted many ways. Which is why even women might buy into the stereotype…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:18 AM
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Maybe her personal experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:02 AM
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They say that. But they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:51 PM
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Not if they want kids, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:40 PM
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I didn't advocate for a return to patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:27 PM
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I never advocated for forcing women into slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:02 PM
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Who said I was an incel? You're right though. It's not like any lonely losers have ever shot up schools or concerts. Thank God for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:50 PM
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Which is likely why the system was what it was, deliberately or accidentally. If men feel they have no stake in a society they'll go crazy and try to tear it down, particularly if given the means to do so. Give a man a partner and kids however, and he's tied to the society and wants it to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:49 PM
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How do you know it went badly? Did she tell you? Sometimes perceptions aren't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:26 PM
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The weird thing being that based on the matrix analogy 'the blue pill' actually sees itself as the red pill, whilst seeing ' the red pill' as actually the blue pill. Perspectives on reality vs delusions and all that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:47 PM
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I think more that differences can at least partly explain why the sexes each seem to favour certain careers. So for example many women might not go into stem because they simply aren't interested as opposed to it being all sexism or being turned away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:53 PM
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They're okay. I generally prefer night clubs abroad though as where I live you're limited to generic music with no variety in themes, just the upper market trendy wine/cocktail bar type clubs. Those types of clubs don't really attract the type of women I like, and many of thems attention span with men is limited to getting free drinks, so when I go it's to laugh and muck about, not to pull. Bars with open Mic nights or live music in general are awesome to me. That or a house party.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:36 AM
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Mine seems to like coming up with errors, or just being slower.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:57 PM
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You mean you didn't even read to the point he said he had a big penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:51 PM
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Yeah. The funny thing as well is many TRPers pretty much worship Jordan Peterson, and he is really pro-LTR and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:41 PM
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That's exactly the type of comment I'd expect from a horrid and despicable creature :p
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:00 PM
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That's exactly the type of comment I'd expect from a horrid and despicable creature :p
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:00 PM
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Possibly as you're putting rape alongside murder. Whilst both are heinous crimes, they're not the same. There's also as others mentioned how difficult is to prove compared to other crimes. A lot of women don't come forward for months or years, so the ability to gather DNA evidence through a rape kit has passed. A lot of convictions come through what amounts to circumstantial or unreliable evidence, and a surprising number are overturned on appeals. As an example, police line ups so victims of cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:50 AM
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One is a dairy product?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:28 AM
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Its a worse punishment, so yes. You're letting him off the hook by killing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:24 AM
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Yeah, he should just serve whatever time is mandated by his local authorities and be rehabilitated through therapy. Which, I believe, is what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:22 AM
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You think life imprisonment is too mean, and that killing someone is bette?. That's...bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:20 AM
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I think serial rapists if convicted should be chemically castrated. That's mostly because serial rapists, like serial killers, tend to leave a trail of evidence beyond the circumstancial and he said/she said The only issue with these severe punishments though is they can certainly make people feel good...until there's a miscarriage of justice. Then not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:18 AM
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Then why the controversy over the Google memo? Granted he misinterpreted some research, but some of the conclusions he drew are actually pretty interesting on the back of it. Eg. Psychological profiles show on group projects women trend towards egalitarian cooperation and men towards an individual group leader and the rest deferring to him. Research also shows that the leader is more likely to get promoted or favourable reviews from bosses. His conclusion from that and looking how companies ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:09 AM
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Agreed. There are examples of notable fuck ups with people put to death for murder, even after DNA came in. It is arguably much easier to convict a murderer than a rapist, especially when most rapes aren't reported immediately, so the opportunity to gather actual evidence is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:45 PM
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I've said numerous times that the angry feminists and anger phase TRPers are more alike than they'll ever know lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:37 PM
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No death penalty. Let that person languish in solitary confinement in a cell for the remainder of their lives I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:35 PM
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Ugh, you're using legal marriage. Most people through history would be cohabiting in common law style marriages. You have to remember the Catholic church had huge penalties on premarital sex, and in villages the Priest could know all. Frances and Joseph Gies wrote a lot of well respected and researched papers on the issue with marriage in medieval times. You can also get hints of that from the consistent shaming of the well known bachelor's in history, even those from lower classes, or just quot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:31 PM
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Stuff will make you happy. No matter how downtrodden you are, a handsome Prince will fall for you and 'rescue' you. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:19 PM
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Most of this is just guys who've listened to what women say to them is attractive. They then try and be those things and when they get no success they think they're deliberately being lied to. What they don't get is women's attraction isn't like men's. A lot of the time that's why you'll hear generic stuff like "he has to be kind" from women when asked. Women actually struggle to quantify what makes a man attractive to them, it's not as black and white as it is for men, their attraction has a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:17 PM
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If Disney sends a subliminal cultural message to either sex, it's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:06 PM
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Don't need a source it's all over the historical record in documents and archaeology. From Mesopotamia, Greece to ancient Rome and across the world. That's cross class structures as well. Marriage was a social expectation. Also, arranged marriages was the norm until the 18th century, then declined, which is the opposite of what you're saying. As to your question, that's likely why the system was set up, either purposely or accidentally over time. If most men have no chance of sex or reproduction…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:02 PM
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In prehistoric times that was the case (aka most of human existence). Back then most men didn't reproduce, as sexual selection worked and women chose a man to mate with or pair with. But in recorded history since civilization began, men invariably all married and reproduced unless they were killed or died young. Women had little to no choice, they were paired off by their families to men deemed suitable by the families. Often traded as commodities to build alliances or better the social standing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:20 PM
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I haven't, and tbh a bit scared to. Think it would annoy me too much and I don't need that level of negativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:28 PM
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I can see an element of that in some of them. But then my previous TRP experience was primarily outside the sub reddit and dealt with a lot more than sex and women. RP Twitter is a lot more balanced and has less emphasis on chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:27 PM
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It's the reason I'd tell most anger phases to stop reading Rollo. His stuffs good, but beyond the initial reading of his material it should never be revisited and none of his stuff read again. His stuff is so hard that you can never leave the anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:24 PM
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So I take it you'd disagree with the phrase "feminist theory" as well then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:41 PM
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Both. Cultural ideas are often the fluff around biological realities. Men are the more disposable sex. All we are seeing now since women's liberation is men having to come to terms with that again. For thousands of years it was pretty much men's right to marry and right to have children. Whether their wife was attracted to them was irrelevant. Now it's absolutely relevant, and many men are having to terms with the realization that the majority of women don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:32 PM
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/the-sexual-reformation-has-opened-up-a-schism-between-women-and-men/ Pretty good and even handed opinion piece on the sexual assault furore at the moment, and possible consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:23 PM
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I prefer the term RetFems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:04 PM
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I think a lot of rape is actually a consequence of bad or absentee parenting, personally. Many rape perpetrators are bizarrely from middle and upper class backgrounds, which doesn't correlate with other violent crimes. We live in a world where parents are so busy they often just throw money at the kids and just give in to keep things easier, very rarely saying the word no. On top of that add the social stigma against disciplining your child, where even a raised voice runs the risk of being repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:34 PM
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There isn't any feminist dating advice. Only advice TRPers call feminist because it's written by a woman and directed at men. That advice isn't feminist but is almost always terrible or generic as that woman doesn't have experience of men's side of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:25 PM
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I'm not RP any more, but I can relate to this. In fact one of the reasons I identify more as purple is because of the trp sub. A lot of the trp sub is just constant anger and hatred (anger phasers, I know) towards women, which isn't what the writers of trp side bar material they follow advocate for at all. Most of them on the sub never actually leave the anger phase because every day they log in to another circlejerk of bitterness and anger, so the guys never escape. In fact to me I slid towards…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:57 PM
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Yeah I'm the same as you. I go through phases really where I'm really on it and focussed sexually, then phases similar to now where I'm just not arsed and focus on other things. I guess the difference comes, without meaning to sound arrogant, when you know you can get sex if you need it. Once you know sex is available if you want it and put a bit of effort in, then sex itself and the horny desperation lower. When a guy has no opportunity to 'take the edge off' for real outside of masturbation, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:24 PM
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Oh definitely. My first gf cheated on me with my best school friend. Took years to eradicate that bitterness from my life .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:16 PM
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Haha. Don't think it's said enough. We're just seeing an increase in bitter men now because women stopped collectively taking one for the team like they did for thousands of years previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:15 PM
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She was the one pointing the girls out to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:28 PM
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Don't think making off colour jokes makes me a douche, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:20 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/7xN6c Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:18 PM
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Agree to disagree. Price tag of marrying a guy who makes 20k annual when she makes 150k annual? In Vietnam? Riiiiight. It always baffles me that people presume white women are so pure of heart and other ethnicities are out for your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:00 PM
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I'm not RP so posting here. Personally I would never go the arranged marriage route, as I want to get to know her first without family involvement. That said, one of my best friends is marrying a Vietnamese girl in a month or so. I went into meeting her thinking she would be another Asian grabbing for money. Shocked to find she earns more than he has ever done, even after currency conversions. However she has a really pleasant and easy personality. She's easy to talk to, I've never seen her take…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:27 PM
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I think you did the right thing ignoring her. I don't really buy the too busy excuse when it comes a week later when in today's world it takes 30 seconds max to just type a text explaining you're busy so might go quiet. To me she's just attention whoring. Likely scenario if you met her online is she met someone she liked more than you and focussed on him, and when it didn't work out she crawled back. I wouldn't give in to despair though. I think actually focussing your energy on other things you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:12 PM
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I don't think it's absolute, but I do think you can tell if someone is getting laid a lot, or at all, by their levels of bitterness. Some RP men are bitter about women, others aren't, and from my own experiences in the real world the guys who are bitter and critical of women are the ones who have low to no success, the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:03 PM
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Yeah, and I think that's where I'm going here. We all know strong willed/alpha/dominant people or whatever you call them of both sexes exist, so was asking if anyone had experience of two of those people in a relationship, and how it looked to them in terms of the dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:56 PM
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Sounds like my parents, they have got a sort of siege mentality where they feel it's them against the world. That, and they struggled a lot for money when I was a kid, which I imagine gave them a sort of common purpose and brought them together. Money worries has a way of doing that in relationships, either destroying or strengthening them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:51 PM
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Now that's really cool. I liked that. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:30 PM
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"Some" women are more dominant? Lmao. Control is a woman's heroin. What percentage of women are bending to their knees to give a man a diamond? That is his response to someone in this thread. He isn't showing nuance. He's judging dominance by men's metric alone. I can see your points, however I think the definitions only need to change when dealing with the murky waters of TRPs interpretation of the words which is limited primarily to sex. Whilst in primates and animals the term has far wider co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:25 PM
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That's all fair. However I don't think I'm misinterpreting him at all. When you read his other posts he seems to disagree with the notion women can have dominant or alpha traits full stop. Which is in itself against what you just said. My point, though poorly made is you can't show the lack of nuance he does. You can't think of men as some form of complex being with huge differences in traits and women as monoform people who are identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:28 PM
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I agree completely here. Good relationship for them, not for any kids. It's why I think an ideal relationship has a mix of one more dominant partner and one who is more easy going and open. In my experience dominant people of either sex aren't the easiest to open up and talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:23 PM
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What you're saying actually flies in the face of TRP assertions. Your preferences shouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:20 PM
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I disagree on the first bit. This battling is one aspect of their relationship. As I said, they love each other a lot, and show it often in many ways. They just seem to particularly enjoy this struggle. Most people wouldn't, so I get what you're trying to say, as its easy to see this from the pov of one side feeling disrespected or unloved. Their dynamic isn't normal to the majority and definitely not for me. I agree on TRP, they're also unable to just get past terminology as well. If I had repl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:04 PM
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Oh I'd agree. Like all hierarchies it's more to do with being top dog, and the availability of better partners is a consequence of that. It's the issue when we try like TRP to show horn in stuff and selectively apply it. If we apply TRPs use of the terms in their base form, men do everything to get women or prove themselves to women. In reality men strive in sports for example to be the best, and prove it to other men. The women are a sidenote to the likes of Brady, Messi, Ronaldo etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:53 PM
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Yeah it's the terms I struggle with, RP definitions are so monoform and not even supported by the science theyve taken them from. My dad's not a pussy though. He puts her in her place, one of the reasons they argue so much is neither ever compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:43 PM
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Uh, startling misinterpretation of where the term comes from, and really pseudoscientific in that you're only taking the male aspect from the animal kingdom, then saying the female side from the animal kingdom doesn't apply. Women have dominance hierarchies within their own social groups, all geared towards being in the best possible position so they are the ones chosen by the men to be fucked, as you'd put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:39 PM
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Yeah, I think outside these types of subs people would just look at it as two people who are dominant. You're a lawyer though, right? I'd say that's a profession that seems to attract a lot of people who manifest a few 'alpha' traits, particularly when analysed in a gender neutral way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:29 PM
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I do. TRP borrows its talk of alpha and beta from the animal kingdom (common examples used are chimps and wolves) and tries to jam them in to human relations by trying to expand them to fit our reality. In all species that show that dynamic for males, however, the females also show it, just differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:24 PM
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Reading that from the link you posted, red, yellow and blue are my mother in a nutshell. I've heard so many of those used in arguments with my father when growing up lol. She used to be a feminist in the 70s. Now she hates it though as its 'weak and whiny'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:19 PM
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Or you could look them up yourself. I'm not your skivvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:53 PM
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One in particular to a reply I made which, to shorten it a bit was about a young guy I worked with who got a large inheritance and decided to quit a job he hated and travel on rental income he got through the inheritancd. He was called immature for (apparently) showing himself to be a terrible prospect for fatherhood. You can probably find the response and my post in my history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:20 PM
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The immature remark when made by women is usually in most contexts because the guy in question isn't fulfilling his traditional role in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:14 PM
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Well there was the thread yesterday where a lot of the responses indicated at least some of the women felt the men's interests and choices made them immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:05 PM
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What I got from the responses to that irl and on ppd is this - Women hate it when men shirk their traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:41 AM
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I'd say the same even if he was 31, or 41, personally. He doesn't have to prove himself to society, and on a personal level I don't see how sticking in a job you hate when don't have to is in any way good for him, or by extension any future kids or SO he may have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:09 AM
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By settling down you mean return to the daily grind in a job he hates? Personally don't see how being miserable makes you a better candidate for fatherhood than being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:57 AM
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You call that immature. As a guy I'd call that being lazy. EDIT - and slightly sexist too as he's likely got backwards ideas in his subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:23 AM
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Absolutely. A 21 year old I used to work with inherited a huge sum of money and a rental property. He quit, invested a lump sum and travels the world on the rental money (which is about 7k GBP a month from the units) The guys I work with all think he's the luckiest SOB ever, never has to work in a job he doesn't like ever again, always has a place to live rent free if he comes back...the women in the office of all ages think he's really immature. I just can't see their pov.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:12 AM
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Misread it sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:45 AM
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Yes they are. Most of TRP is teaching men to not be walked all over by women. If anything, TRPers have a much lower threshold for bullshit than most normal guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:29 PM
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I think she's got an ass tumour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:19 PM
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He's too 'clean' and 'boyish'? He's done everything so 'right' that it actually looks 'wrong'? That's what a couple of friends (women) said when I showed them the pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:17 PM
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Humans do form dominance hierarchies. Sociology, and psychology agree on that. A casual glance around the world we live in proves it. Capitalism and competitive sports are examples. The satisfaction we feel from success is proof of it. If you pass a test, you're happy, but if you get the best test score in the whole class that makes you feel you can walk on water. I don't agree however that it proves the alpha/beta stuff, or that alpha and beta are intrinsically part of humans. We share DNA and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:07 PM
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I think I've found the one thread where RP and BP agree almost unanimously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:50 AM
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I agree with you, particularly about Chelsea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:37 AM
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The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray covers a lot of Europe's problems. If you're interested in that sort of thing you might find it worth a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 01:19 PM
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Oh yeah there's definitely racism in Europe. Italians in particular can be scarily racist. The Spanish it depends what part, due to pretty large regional differences culturally. The Basques and Galliceans are pretty bad. Catalans not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 01:33 AM
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They can do yes, it's entirely at their discretion. Europe is negative on free speech. If someone takes offense and the police don't like it either they'll visit you or you'll get called in. Usually it's a warning, but if it's said online there are powers in place for them to shut down your social media presence. It's unlikely you'd get anything more than disgusted looks and maybe in a big city a leftist type calling you out on it publicly for your example though. But it wouldn't take much furth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:33 AM
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That's not even the worst of it. From Callais aide workers being pressured by the charities they work for not to report assault so as not to 'perpetuate negative stereotypes' to Swedish and French authorities advising women to cover up to avoid rape in certain areas of Paris and Malmo for example. It's a rabbit hole you don't want to fall in to here. Especially when you realize the media is complicit in all of it and just lies lies and lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:09 AM
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Yeah. You're not really allowed to question other cultures views on women or anything. Things such as "rape culture" in Europe generally apply only to white men. Immigrants can grope and rape away and all you'll get are platitudes of needing to be understanding of them and even a dose of victim blaming. You'd receive a visit from the police in many countries here if you posted such a thing on social media about non westerners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:05 PM
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In Europe, that view makes you a white supremacist. Just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:51 PM
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The whole thing is actually funny given his surname.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:43 PM
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It'll be debatable whether it'd be correlation or causation as well.. Instances of rape like most violent crimes have been in decline by trends in western nations for decades. So in 5 years if rape has declined further, does that mean the training worked or the trend just continued? Bizarrely I think the one way to tell if the training has an effect is if reports of rape increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:57 PM
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Yeah, and the funny thing is Sanders said pretty much the same about why Trump won. Irony is him simply saying that we should talk to the so called, or actual white supremacists and listen to their side as opposed to labelling them and punching them led to all his previous support evaporating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 01:16 PM
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To me it's just a case of fairness. The accuser gets a lot of support from the school, through employees or even third parties arguing their case (some of which are lawyers), emotional support and counselling provided for free. The accused gets thrown under the bus, they get nada, zilch...apart from the privilege of having someone sit quietly in the room next to you. To use your example, to my knowledge the government wouldn't get you an attorney to sue someone else, either. https://www.jamesgma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 01:18 AM
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Yes, but they're not teaching it that way, as evidenced by the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:33 PM
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They should be allowed to retain an attorney or at least given some form of reprentation by the school who can act on their behalf. Currently you're allowed someone in the room with you, but they're not allowed to speak. OCR strongly discourages schools from allowing the parties personally to question or cross-examine each other during the hearing. Allowing an alleged perpetrator to question an alleged victim directly may be traumatic or intimidating, thereby possibly escalating or perpetuating …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:24 PM
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It's not though. The accused has no right to representation, isn't given any information on the charges against them, and isn't allowed to cross examine his accuser. None of that would stand up in criminal courts. In a bizarre twist you have a better chance fighting a case in the criminal courts at higher stakes than at a school or university.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:30 PM
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Imo it is. At least in criminal cases the accused is protected and treated with a degree of fairness. To me with this we just giving ammunition to a group of hormonal children who care too much for their reputation and will often do anything to ruin a 'rival'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:15 PM
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I think the end game of this will just be gender segregation in schools. Or just an increase in male or female only schools. It's almost inevitable that educational institutions will just get tired of sifting through all this and just say fuck it and keep everyone separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:09 PM
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If anything that's worse. I can see really bad cases coming from this. Like a girl not liking her friends boyfriend, she can easily presume her friends not saying yes to every sex act with her partner. She reports it as rape. School is obligated to investigate. Word gets around about this, as it does. Even if the school clears it up, he's done reputationally. I can see loads of scenarios like this.Especially knowing how immature and bitchy kids of both sexes are in that age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:06 PM
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That's why I think affirmative consent laws are bad. I just can't see any way you can write it into law without it being open to terrible misrepresentations. I think there will be a surge of 'false' rape accusations on the back of them. It should be obvious, and I think is to the majority how to have consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:17 PM
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I'd bring up the myth that all sex has to be like pornography. As in often, particularly with new partners and when sober, it's really fumbly and awkward and not at all the strictly choreographed shit you see in pornos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:54 PM
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Or they fall off the wagon after one bad day. That's also a common mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:02 PM
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https://youtu.be/sd1er6Pig6A Okay, this is hilarious. Especially with the whole theme last week about men needing to be emotional. Not to be taken seriously, though I'm sure there are some in this sub who would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:15 AM
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As a guy, I'd say men are fine with other men showing vulnerability, we're just more particular about how vulnerabilities should be shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:19 PM
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You'd be surprised. A lot of the time you get the 'Iets be friends' speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:02 PM
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Yeah, but I'd like to think most guys learn from it of not after the first time then after the second or third.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:01 PM
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Well, on the whole guys have to be that way now. So many women are flakey. Surely you can see it from the guys POV. Why speak to one woman and one woman alone, get invested, ask her out, get rejected or ghosted, then finding yourself back at square one when you could do the same but it's okay as you've got another couple of girls you're talking to who might say yes? Modern dating is a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:45 PM
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Sounds suspiciously like you're the one woman who allows guys out of the friend zone lol. Most of the time if a guy acts like you described he's friend zoned and eventually gets bitter and turns to the red pill type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:42 PM
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Hard not to be, particularly if you really fancy her and like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:38 PM
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Yeah, I think it's hard for a lot of guys to take that the majority of women they meet or ask out aren't going to end up as relationships. I know one guy who will yoyo terribly between almost planning the wedding after a decent date, to utter despair when she ghosts him or dumps him further down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:10 PM
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I'd say it's changed a lot now. I stopped using online dating because constantly finding new ways to get women to respond in the Tinder era when someone potentially better is just a swipe away got tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:05 PM
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Aren't a lot of incels hiding under "The Black Pill" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 06:54 PM
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Yeah. Tbh most of my friends are good looking women to, and the reason I know I need to change is that if other guys made those assumptions about them I'd be upset. It's another hang up from being obese previously I have to deal with I think. That and I think a lot of good looking people of either sex don't realize how easy they get it, and because things tend to just fall into place they never develop a truly rounded personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:35 PM
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Not always. But sometimes. In a club situation there's nothing to go on but looks. But in bars etc I'd rather date or have a ONS with a girl that has more to her than looks. But then I suffer a lot with being judgmental of really hot 9 or 10/10 women. It's something girl friends have pointed out to me and I need to work on. It isn't that I put them on a pedestal, the reverse actually. Mostly that I assume they're air headed bimbos until they prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:51 AM
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Yeah, I've met Goldmund and Christian McQueen too. Neither of them are traditionally good looking facially. But they've maximized what they could. This idea that women only want 6ft plus male models is jarring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:26 AM
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As a landlord and a tenant I see both sides of it. People are just opportunistic liars when money is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:19 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/1MoJe Today's technology industry invention - Being a landlord. Tomorrow? The wheel!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:23 PM
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I'd tell him to stop being a colossal mangina and grow up. If he's doing it to a girl I'm interested in I'd tell him there and then, on front of her. You have to know the difference between him just treating her as one of the guys and ribbing on you as guys do, and some form of bad intent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:58 PM
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What do you mean by pain in the ass? Do you mean it as in you're talking to a girl and he constantly puts you down to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:29 PM
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Its be the same. Because political divides would still occur. Over 50% of white women voted for Trump, and that's in a world where the left has successfully given off the impression that the left alone cares about women's issues. People assume women all vote left because they're all tree hugging, pro immigration types. That isn't inherantly true, in my experience most women vote left because the right is seen as sexist. In a world with no men that wouldn't apply, and the idea that one side is pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:51 AM
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She had had a family emergency going on back home all afternoon apparently. At least that's the excuse she provided to my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:18 AM
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Because despite their protestations about not caring about women, they spend an exorbitant amount of time talking about and obsessing over everything women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:37 PM
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This matches what one of my best friends says. She works as a car mechanic and I just read your post aloud to her and she agreed. Her only comment to add was men and women view respect differently, and that's what causes the friction and the feeling certain fields are hostile to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:26 PM
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They do. They know that when you talk about white masculinity you're talking about white men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:25 PM
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See I think men do cry, just not publicly. I don't understand the need for men to start bawling their eyes out in front of everyone. I also font feel feminists really care, which is shown in the duopoly between their whole men need to show emotion/male tears mug stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:04 PM
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That's why I said radical feminists. Because to them, as opposed to more mainstream, toxic masculinity can be anything a man does that they don't like. Also that many radical terf style feminists are known for their hatred and belittling of men, so their use of the term doesn't measure with its intended use. Because of the term "toxic masculinity". Not "toxic aspects of traditional cultural depictions of masculinity." The term implies that masculinity is toxic in general. It's a bad phrase for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:05 PM
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Women have shallower tear ducts than men. Testosterone impacts men's ability to shed tears.What you call nonsense, others call science. Are there cultural pressures? Yes. Are there also biological reasons? Yes. It's called balance. Try it sometime. Really your compulsive ignorance of anything that might balance your "it's all cultural !" Worldview is tiring, and boring, and shows almost exactly the same levels of ignorance you accuse trpers of. Not everyone is a crazy biology denying post modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:43 PM
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Just too slowly now, unfortunately. It's one of the reasons our society suffers so many growing pains. Everything from obesity to discrimination to the "benevolent sexism" many second wave feminists talked about are all throwbacks to a time that doesn't exist. It's why I'm skeptical of the post modernism injected into feminism. Throwing out biology is dangerous. We've seen that with obesity. We've known the bodies response to excess sugar and salt for decades, yet we ignored it and pumped our fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:27 AM
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Well men invented musicals, dances etc. Men still write them, go to them, perform in them etc. This idea that men don't like musicals because of some toxic masculine ideal is bullshit. People like different things. The idea seems to be here we need to push men into some preconcieved leftist approved idea of what masculinity is. As in not break a gender role just redefine it for themselves. There are a myriad of reasons men no longer like the arts that have nothing to do with "toxic masculinity"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:47 AM
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Lol, it's a talent. I'm not ashamed to say some women get me worked up just from that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:38 PM
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Yeah he's a douchebag of the highest order. I just feel I have to be fair to him and say we've got one horrid remark and several distasteful ones but nothing concrete about actual physical acts. No allegations from women he slept with, no evidence apart from words he said to other equally distasteful men. There's no evidence he didn't just make it up. It's why I feel calling him a rapist on that is flimsy, and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:31 PM
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That's fair, but you shouldn't then have to deal with backlashes or accusations of hate just because you don't care about one set of injustices. Eg a person who doesn't care about women's issues isn't necessarily a woman hater. Same as women who don't care about men's issues aren't necessarily man haters. Seems to be something we've lost now. That's really what the person I replied to was getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:27 PM
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Fixed the link, if copied wrong. I mean it's distasteful as fuck, but not really evidence he himself raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:20 PM
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But that's biologically true. All men's emotions are interpreted by women as a sign of strength or weakness. That's why men mope around or sulk when upset and rarely fall into floods of tears. Haha, but it is such a thing that the only emotion feminists talk about men showing is tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:18 PM
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Well that's shit yeah. But on these so called proofs https://m.imgur.com/a/kfZvS I don't see that stuff as rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:03 PM
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Which is why I've always said we need to take gender out of things. I think it was Karen Straughn who said in an interview that "feminism says it doesn't think men are bad...it just names everything bad after men." Really it's not too different to the AWALT stuff from TRP. Most women would acknowledge women like TRP describes exist. What they resent is the implication they're all that way (and the wording used, but listen to radfems talk about toxic masculinity and the language is much the same.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:54 PM
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Fair, but all your examples have no real definable metric to judge with. One person's courage is another's fearlessness. It's all in the eye of the observer. It's very hard to fight a concept which seems so fluid and can vary wildly from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:33 PM
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Eh? loads of guys who love the arts. Men have actually historically been the sole patrons of the arts. Men created them. This idea men don't like the arts due to gender norms is weird. Really, when you say emotional you only mean to a set of preconceived emotions women approve of. Men sulk, and men get angry, men laugh and men are happy. Men not crying as much is biological as much as social, and the preoccupation feminists have with make tears is baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:26 PM
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Cold, but actually a fair point. Either everyone should care about everyone else's issues, or no one should.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:16 PM
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Yeah, I've always been able to spot an eyefuck or "the look." Personally don't even think you need to that socially adept, it's a primal and natural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:15 PM
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Everyone advocates taking one for the team until it's their turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:12 PM
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IOIs are getting more rare the world over I feel. Especially since the advent of smartphones means people's heads are down more often than not. That also means of course that any IOIs that do get sent are less likely to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:11 PM
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Even outside the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:08 PM
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All we have to go on is that one word the person I responded to chose to put here. I haven't been able to find the full video or article for context. For all we know he was talking about fulfilling a girlfriends rape fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:04 PM
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1..Saying "strong and independent" only works if you back it with actions not words. Right now all it is pointless self motivating buzzwords. Women are only strong and independent when they agree with feminists. If they disagree they're weak and subservient. It's hilarious actually. Ive been to many consent awareness campaigns and workshops, in school and worryingly, in work. They've been mixed sex, and all the emphasis was on men, none was on the woman. The women only seemed to be there as prop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:56 PM
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Yeah, but he said he forced a girl into sex according to the person who posted that, not that he raped her. There's a thin line there, but they aren't necessarily the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:44 PM
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I'd argue the majority of men aromantic at some level. I don't see the hopeless idealism of romance and love that TRP says is there in blue pill men or men in general. There's a reason why romance novels and movies are almost exclusively consumed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:45 PM
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You can, but you can't moan if you then get sued for defamation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:28 PM
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Which is not what I said, or believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:26 AM
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But he's not been convicted, or charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:16 AM
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I love it when feminists don't actually know their own movements history. Do your own research, it's called Google, and instances aren't hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:14 AM
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Because you're opening things up to colour and nuance. Haven't you heard? It's a black and white world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:07 AM
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Roosh is a rapist? Convicted? That seems hyperbolic. He's an utter douchebag, but he's not a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:06 AM
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Radfems were worse. Some of them bombed stuff, still do in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:05 AM
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Oh noes! Benefit of being Purple is I can be independent and take points I like from both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:57 PM
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Some red pillers are misogynists. Some feminists are misandrists. Blanket labels of large groups are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:51 PM
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Nah, I think it's more about other factors. For one, people in their early twenties are invariably stupid. They can be the booksmart, but still stupid. They've got no real world experiences of life, they're parrots of other people's ideas and they routinely do and say extraordinarily stupid things Secondly, youve got no money. Unless you're very lucky you're scraping by at best. This also ties into point one in that what you do spend your money on is invariably stupid. People look back at their …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:51 PM
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True. But I feel feminism does a terrible job of doing anything to break down patriarchy and male gender roles. Why? Because all emphasis is put on men to change, men to fix the issues, men to do the lifting. Men need to stop rape, for example, and any emphasis on what women could do to prevent it is seen as sexism. That despite it being known by law enforcement that the overwhelming majority of rape cases were preventable on the woman's part. They take this stance akin to leaving the front door…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 12:31 PM
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http://quillette.com/2017/10/25/rethinking-gender-sexuality-violence/ That article does a great job actually dissecting the claims of rape culture and male violence by numbers. I think the most interesting point though was about the Taylor Swift video.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:08 AM
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Most of the people who quote said studies have no training. Plus with the amount of crap papers that actually pass peer review and get quoted by so-called reputable institutions, you have to wonder if the training even makes a difference. An example, the paper often cited by the APA that states there are no innate biological sex differences in the human brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 11:00 PM
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Yuh, plus so many of those studies suffer from the political and social biases of the person performing them. It's the reason the social sciences are a clusterfuck, and you can't tell what's good and what's not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:04 PM
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Seems right to me. You see a fair number of pretty big names in the early PUA community having hit their mid to late 30s settling down, Richard La Ruina is a recent example. A French friend of mine was a massive player when I met him. He's hit 35 and he's getting married soon. He's even said that he got tired of the chase. I think it's just a phase of life. A lot of younger guys here in their 20s won't understand. I'm 30 and I don't understand it myself. I'm still enjoying being single personall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 08:02 PM
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Well they're not that conservative. They identify on the left. They just don't like the group think and ultra leftism stuff there, they feel it's so leftist it's almost like living in a real life 1984. As in, you really feel you're policing your own thoughts and words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:16 PM
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It depends. Most of the time it's not, in a capitalist society you have the right to serve or not serve whoever you want, I feel. In the case of the BLM woman in Toronto who shouted her hatred for white people, wrote pseudoscience posts about black people's "genetic superiority" on fb and that we needed a white genocide. She's as racist as any neo Nazi you'll find, and she's hiding behind bs redefinitions of the word to make herself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:11 PM
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Yeah. Plus the whole paragraph he relies on when reads between the lines reads as "If you won't date a trans, I'm not saying you're a trabsphobe (but you are"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:02 PM
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Meh. To me the issue I have with feminism is what I think of as opportunistic egalitarianism. An example - The draft. When Obama was US president he set about including women in the draft process. Many articles were then written and correctly stated the draft is outdated, horrific in that it sends people by force to their deaths and needs to be revoked for everyone. That's great, and all sounds correct in principle. However, a look at history shows feminists have a rather chequered history when …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:12 PM
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I won't date trans people because I date people I would like to have kids with biologically. Therefore I must be a transphobe...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 11:21 AM
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Well according to many so called feminists and activists women can't be sexist, and minorities can't be racist. Sexism and discrimination in general is a power and privilege thing. So women refusing to serve men aren't being sexist etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 11:15 AM
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It's a mind set more than anything. Though through listening to language used referring to dating/seduction by both sexes, it's widely acknowledged that flirting/seduction and dating at least in the early stages is a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:30 AM
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Different strokes for different folks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 06:21 PM
1

I like the Wheatus version. Well, I like both actually, they're just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 05:56 PM
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Yeah, I've always thought the spinning plates thing works on a specific kind of woman, maybe someone who isn't after an LTR and is happy having easy access to sex, and doesn't care about him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:09 PM
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So basically they were braggards of the highest order. Always suspected that, from reading some of the "field reports" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:06 PM
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What I thought. I wondered if there was some form of ethnic issue as to why he thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:59 PM
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Hmm not really. Outside of really strict first/second generation religious migrant households it isn't something you see. Among third or fourth generation migrants even you never hear of it, and they're predominantly open.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:58 PM
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Thats weird. Never really experienced that here in the UK, even in London.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:14 PM
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A guy friend of mine married an American guy and lives in Portland and they both hate it there. They say they hate being expected to think and act a certain way just because of the sexuality. Guess it's just different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:08 PM
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If you feel some of the most liberal places are weird about it, I'd avoid most other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:46 PM
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You know everyone who reads it posts? You know everyone who bought say, a Rollo book, has a reddit account and posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:41 PM
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....yet you know for certain that everyone who reads TRP and Manosphere material is posting on Reddit all day and not applying things they learned on TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:36 PM
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Went on the worst date of my life tonight. Introduced by a friend who thought we'd hit it off as this woman just started working in the same lawyers office as her. She seemed nice when I spoke to her a bit at the bar Friday so invited her out. But I walked out after 30 minutes tonight of one or two word answers and her constantly being on her phone. Never understood that, and first time it's happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:07 AM
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That's why Twitter is better. A lot of the TRPers on there don't blame women or mention them in negative ways. They get shit from the SJW and radfem types, but you'd be surprised how many women actually love what people like Goldmund, Ed Latimore, Alexander Cortes post up. Cortes for example posted a tweet thread on what women found attractive in men. It got a lot of love and backing from women and men. People who hated it? Trp redditers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:15 AM
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Yeah, they're snaking. Slippery sods.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:43 PM
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Models by Mark Manson.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:57 PM
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Yeah, but it's not really an easing thing to fix. I don't want due process thrown out in any crime, and I don't want there ever to be a lower standard of evidence for convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:56 PM
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Nor should they be. I know I'd rather have a shark defending me in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:54 PM
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There is the issue of so much of the evidence that can be gathered is circumstantial at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 06:41 PM
2

Terrible advice on how to get rich as well. Often that advice is couched in penny pinching and never investing outside of for retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:36 PM
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I'd go live the life they show in Life Below Zero. I'd probably die of starvation, but if I didn't, man that life would be fulfilling, and no women around to give those horrible looks they don't realize they give to ugly guys. I used to be obese so I know all about those looks, won't deal with that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 01:00 PM
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There are certain things certain more radical elements do that do seem to have a sense of them wondering how far they can push it before people push back. I don't think they're necessarily shit testing men, but also women, and even other feminists as well. As a loose example of what I mean. Radical Feminist - Due to Rape Culture, we should gender segregate all university social events. Other Radfems - Yeah! Society - No. Radfems - Damn, too much too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 01:10 PM
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So it's a lot of basic lip service that sounds good. What I get from that though is radical feminists are pretty much the female equivalent of the extreme TRPers like Roosh etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 12:57 PM
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To be fair it's not new, has been that way for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 12:56 PM
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A lot of stars and named planets in most cultures were given masculine and feminine names. Earth has been referred almost exclusively as feminine across cultures for thousands of years. That'd be a truly shark jumping moment if feminism went that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 12:54 PM
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Or it's the radical feminism the OP referred to that does it. They see pretty much all male expression as an expression of systems of power and dominance, such as liking superheroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 12:49 PM
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Yeah, Manson is brilliant. Best dating book on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:21 PM
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I don't watch it. Used to, don't anymore. Shits bad for you, fucks with brain chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:11 PM
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From my Nan, "Don't be a doormat, and don't force yourself to change just to keep her happy. That'll just make you both miserable."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:55 PM
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Yeah, but it's not unique to TRP. A lot of feminists and activists fall into the same trap. It's the reason the social sciences are so contradictory, and generally a mire. When scientists let their beliefs in to their work, you can't trust the data they gather.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:40 PM
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Hmm, isn't that exactly how science is done? 1) Come up with hypothesis. 2) Define parameters that may prove hypothesis. 3) Look at previous research into similar. 4) Perform research and studies. 5) Prove/Disprove hypothesis. 6) Repeat for that and everything else as there is no fact of your idea, it's now a theory and will remain that way no matter how much evidence you obtain. Feelings and ideas are what starts all science. If Newton had just looked at the facts under that tree, he never woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:08 PM
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Not to mention guys who actually think AskMen is a legitimate resource for, well, anything. Pretty much all its stuff is just women telling men what to do, say, wear. Has been for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:03 AM
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I like the candy analogy. If you're used to enjoying all the different types of candy you want, then had to choose just one to have for the rest of your life, it'd be really hard to stay with just that one. Same applies for members of eithee sex who are promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:24 PM
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Yeah, the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:21 PM
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Either way, think it's the deceit that killed it. People in general hate liars or the perception of being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:16 PM
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Haha, I know a girl who says "amazing" all the time. Not just the word but how she draws out the middle syllable, "amaaaaaaazing!" Good looking woman, but would not date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:13 PM
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Meh, men seem to be having the same realization - https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-single/201710/bromance-over-romance-say-men-in-new-study Seems to be the view that there's nothing either sex can offer the other anymore except sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:09 PM
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See you need to get over it in your native country really for lasting effects. Doing it for a week or month anywhere else is useless if in your own country for the remaining time you don't. Repetition breeds confidence. Not getting rejected out right is tough. But really best way to deal with that is not focus on one girl. Go up to a girl, say something like what I said, talk to her for 5/10/15 minutes then regardless of how it's going excuse yourself and go elsewhere, if it's in a bar and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:15 PM
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The angry ones yeah, it's all obvious they're not.the reasonable trpers you meet are usually the ones getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:33 AM
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"Hi, I thought you were cute and wanted to say hello." That's all you really need to start. Likelihood of getting harsh rejections from that is zerofrom any emotionally healthy woman. Then over time move it up to adding extra, cute smile for example, or adding a compliment of something you like about how they're dressed. It's honesty that wins, so you have to sound genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:32 AM
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Bingo. Here in the UK for example despite the crying from feminists about "lad culture", when you go out most women love it and get involved. Its only when some 18 year old takes it down the rape joke or rapey pick up line route they get uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:18 PM
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Great post. I would say though that some of the psychological factors you are strong in can hinder you. For example, people who are highly intelligent usually struggle with dating as they tend towards over analysing and being stuck in their head. They're also the ones prone to reading every game book to make sure they have a full understanding but never apply anything as they never feel they know enough. A lot of incels fit the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:13 PM
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Its not hyperbole if you're using the words she actually used.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:01 PM
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Then they'll need to be introspective. They won't be, but they need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:57 PM
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Think this has always been a thing, maybe not to the extent of cuddling etc though. I can't see any way this is harmful for women apart from maybe shining a light on the behaviour of the women in those men's lives, and what they are doing that makes men feel they're not worth the effort. As always though men have to be the issue, and women are perfect in every way and nothing in individual or a group of women's actions could possibly drive men away, that's just misogyny to think that way. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:40 PM
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No I'm not, what she said is quoted in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:23 PM
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I read it, it's just reads as closet misandry to me. If I flipped the genders a lot of women would lose their shit. Force myself to link to womens views on a subject instead of men? No. I'll link to who ever I please, I'm not going to traipse through hundreds of articles or studies that say the same thing just to find one written by a woman. Force myself to listen and reas to angry feminists, and presume they're 100% right, say nothing and assume that even if they're factually wrong they're righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:55 PM
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One of those women where you know she's not getting good sex regularly. Very hard to be a rampant misogynist or misandrist if you're getting regular and good quality sex, as it instills understanding and compassion for the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:36 PM
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It's disgusting, but was an open secret even outside those circles. People have been talking about casting couch stuff for years. What annoys me is it's now people get outraged by it, and more when its big names as opposed to this seemingly more accepted 18yo country girl with dreams that it was previously. But yeah, open secret along with the rampant steroid abuse of both male and female leads to get in shape for films in a ridiculously short space of time."I trained 12 hours a day, 7 days a we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:46 PM
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I like the sour taste, first time was horrid, but now love it. Citrulline does the same as cordyceps for me, wakes me up, even first thing I drink when hung over.. I only take citrulline, creatine daily with water and 2:1:1 BCAA's on workout days. Thing with Citrulline is it really ramps up the sex drive. Not surprising though as one of its benefits is as an ED cure lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:40 PM
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Polarization. Screen out girls I won't like using my style and saying outlandish things. Seems to work well, I generally always end up with my type. Generally though despite reading a lot of pick up years ago I don't really use it, though I suppose TRP would say I've just internalized it. I just do me, if I feel like buying bottles of champagne and pouring it down people's throats, I do it etc. I can't think about the last time I went out specifically to pick up chicks. I don't do tinder or onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:31 PM
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I think it depends where you live. Where I live both sexes are super slutty. I heard of or saw at least a dozen cases this weekend. It's pure filth here, seems no one stays faithful. It's so bad the general advice guys give each other is not to date , just play the field. I assume its the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:18 PM
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Creatine and Citralline. Only two supplements with proven science behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:13 PM
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Yeah, I've met Vietnamese women lawyers in Saigon earning the same amount of money as they would if they lived in London. The funny bit being due to cost of living that means they're earning more than they would in the west. It's a minority in Thailand and the Phillipines that have ruined Asian women's reputation. Of course there's some who see a meal ticket, but It's no different than the west in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:01 PM
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Vietnam isn't a third world country, particularly in big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:11 PM
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I think you both underestimate how much some of these women earn, and overestimate the appeal of the west. Even a minimum wage European job enables them to live like queens there, with property prices etc being so cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 05:50 PM
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Agree with this. Hate this view that a south east Asian woman for example is just after something whilst white western women are so pure and honest in intent. It smacks of racism really. It's no different than the west. Culturally people in South America, Eastern Europe, etc might value traits in a man that western women don't value any more as well. Take Vietnam for example, a lot of Vietnam girls who are successful in careers hate the idea of marrying Vietnamese men. They don't want to be unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:14 AM
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Yuh, strikes me as a sort of 'I don't like the reason you gave so give me the reason I want" type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 11:49 PM
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Why the Mongols were awesome in 11 minutes... https://youtu.be/szxPar0BcMo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 11:42 PM
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This article touches on this somewhat too. http://ottawacitizen.com/health/rise-of-the-bromance-is-bad-for-women-could-become-genuine-lifestyle-relationship-study/wcm/6407ca51-ba33-43d7-b8e4-dfa6337d5c8d Men find it easier to have platonic bromances with other men than deal with constant battles of relationships with women. Of course men having any form of bond with one another is always a bad thing. Modern feminism in a nutshell. It's a sad world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 11:36 PM
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I tend towards the belief that our lack of belief in any greater ideal is what's our downfall, at least in the west. It was Nietzsche who predicted that the idea of God would die and in its place would come murder and destruction we could never have previously contemplated. He was right too, from Nazi Germany to Maoist China etc. I'm not even religious nor do I believe in God, but I can see where the absence of religion has lead to people clinging desperately to various causes in an attempt to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:57 PM
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True, seems to be a general feeling among humanity that we've ran our race and it's time for us to retire and die. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:31 PM
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She seems to have just taken sitcom tropes about men and built a comedic career on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:19 PM
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Go to Peru and do Ayahuasca. That stuff'll sort your head right out. The things you recall from your childhood etc. on that, it'd cure incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:02 PM
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More you drink the more you can drink too. It's a tolerance thing, everyone starts off a lightweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:49 PM
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Benefits though are you'll get regular interactions with crack whores, with possibility of ending up with your very own crack baby. You'd have a family, at least until the whore pawned the baby off for more crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:47 PM
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This is true. Also, there is no amount of social anxiety that cocaine can't fix. Cocaine - The Original "Therapist" Cocaine - The Original "Approach Anxiety Program" Etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:42 PM
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TL;DR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:06 PM
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Nah you're alright. I'll keep having fun on purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:49 PM
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Man, we white dudes are flakey as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:37 PM
1

Hormones. Science is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:36 PM
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Go for it. Liberate yourself from the shackles of mod oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:33 PM
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Because western women have been genetically bred to be sloots of the highest calibre.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:28 PM
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I like to rise to the occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:26 PM
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Funny, not funny. Everytgings always on a binary with some people. So oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:25 PM
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Read it, found it lacking this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:12 PM
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Haha, there's always one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 02:07 PM
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They'd be a Tenacious D song. Often limp and uninspiring, but every so often they'll rock your world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 10:08 AM
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Boards and politics should be 100% men, all the time. Only then will true diversity of thought be recognized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 10:05 AM
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Some time next Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 09:50 AM
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Yuh, though I think if a lot of RPers made the feminism and woman jokes they want, this sub would be deleted by Reddiit by the end of the week, after an influx of screeching harpies. Still, worse ways to go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 12:52 AM
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You answered your own question. Heavy boozing. Heavy smoking as well, if you're into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 12:38 AM
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If you kill yourself can I have your tv? Also if you have a surf board can I have that? I already have 5 but 6 sounds like a much better total number, dont you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:48 PM
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Ooh I read Submission. It's pretty funny. I love his writing, as its equal parts funny, and also thought provoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:34 PM
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Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:32 PM
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Me first? Please?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:31 PM
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Those people aren't wanting to have their penis converted into a vagina, though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:25 PM
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I think you need a sort of come to Jesus talk with her. I'd say just put your thoughts in order, sit her down , ask her not to interrupt and spell all your misgivings out to her. If you're open and honest about it, but still firm, and she reacts badly or ignores you, it'll at the least tell you where you stand and provide the clarity of knowing the relationship is pretty much over. I'd then go for a trial separation and move out. Sometimes that can be enough that the person acting that way gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:31 AM
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Definitely, there are also books for people who can't afford a dating coach, "Models" is a good one, he generally uses examples where most people with issues dating can at least see a reflection of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:15 AM
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Man. Would choose to be a man. Think the trade offs for being a woman are just too severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:43 PM
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You tell me, you frequent the sub far more than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:39 PM
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That post reads like it comes straight out of the mind of a sexless virgin living in his mum's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:22 PM
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I'd probably gift him Models by Mark Manson. I'd say it's the most purple pill dating book out there, critiqueing both red and blue pill dating methods. I'd generally talk to him about style as well. Is he mindlessly subscribing to fashion trends, or is he not caring. If it's either he'd need to stop. Men's style isn't the same as women's style, there aren't any universal plug and play items that will automatically get women's attention. No little red or black dresses. Men who are considered sty…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:41 AM
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Yet they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 08:40 AM
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Those crazy internet people exist on campuses, and have jobs. So it can conceivable affect anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 11:02 PM
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No I'm not. You are. I've made my point clear, and not changed it. You, however are being petty in order to try and "win" on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:56 PM
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Bill c-16. It's discriminatory not to refer to a transgender person by their preferred pronouns. Obviously intended for ntf to be referred to as she. But doesn't have anything in it preventing discrimination suits if you refuse to use one of the made up ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:45 PM
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Well in Canada there's the whole law thing. But that's just Canada so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:41 PM
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How is it a straw man? Thanks for actually agreeing with my point though. Pink isn't a girl colour. Yet we have trans activists, teachers etc pulling psychologists and the authorities into cases where a boy likes pink, thinking that somehow means he's transgender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:37 PM
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One could say it got a bit hormonal...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:24 PM
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Sounds like an roleplaying game name. Puts on robe and wizard hat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:24 PM
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But my point is, is a child's interests any true reflection of his gender? Boys can like dolls, girls can like sports. Those boys and girls aren't necessarily trans, and using such arbitrary things as a prime identifier as we are doing isn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:17 PM
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I think you're slightly missing my point. The point is that arbitrary gender binaries in interests are things feminists have seemed to do away with, along with the shaming of boys and girls who don't conform to those binaries. The idea that a boy liking pink or playing with dolls doesn't make him a "sissy" or "fag" or "wimp" or a "girl", for example. He can still be a man, no matter his interests, as the interests and their implications are purely social ideas and mean nothing on a biological le…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 09:54 PM
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When you read the comments on those articles a lot of men are saying things like that, but they're dismissed. Men in positions of power don't however, because of fear for their livelihoods that they'd lose if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:48 PM
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I don't think it's an issue of being unwilling to admit liking Barbie dolls as kids so much as no one actually listening even if we do admit it. A lot of those types of women and fetishists have it in their heads that they're right about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:27 PM
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The most accepted way, even among many trans people outside the internet is that outside intersex issues children should go through puberty as normal. Puberty alters the mind as much as the body, and the feelings of confusion might iron themselves out by the end of it. If they don't, they can then fully transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:20 PM
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You seem more in line with someone like Blair White.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:06 PM
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The effects of puberty blockers are also that that person can often never fully transition though, and that's not something people talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:04 PM
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It isn't, and it doesn't make sense. Yet no one actively seems to address. I'd argue trans-feminists are in the perfect position to do so as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:57 PM
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The obvious contradiction in feminist and trans arguments regarding childhood should be addressed to. Are gender stereotypes bullshit, and a boy who wears dresses and plays with girls toys still a boy, or is he a trans girl. If he's a trans girl based on that, doesn't that just reinforce gender stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:38 PM
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Often they're doing it because of shitty advice and threats of abuse claims from misguided teachers though. Like the post that went around on Twitter last week of a kindergarten teacher threatening reporting two parents to the authorities for abuse for forcing their child into a gender. All because their little boy drew a picture of himself in what appeared to her to be a dress, but was actually a basketball Jersey, including the Jersey number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:35 PM
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I've always done the majority. I live in a house share with 3 other girls and a guy and I clean everything apart from their rooms once a week. One of the girls I wouldn't go in her room again if you paid me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:07 PM
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Meh, it's just normal mental masturbation and/or outrage porn. All sides do it. Gets boring really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:28 PM
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I disagree with the assertion that only 20% of men breeding is bad for the gene pool. It's a biological fact that prior to civilization most men didn't breed, and its a fact in other great apes to this day. It clearly serves a function, and that function should be obvious. But in truth both men and women on a purely animalistic level want the top 20% of the other. If average men were truly happy with average women then magazines like playboy never would exist. What actually changes over time is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:57 PM
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Because they're often aggressively masculine and confident, meaning they approach more, and deal with rejection better. Their masculinity and aggression makes them desirable to women who get tired of dealing with timid boys. They often even use the myths about them from porn to their advantage. None of the non self reporting studies in penis size have shown any significant difference between black men and white men. Half an inch in the most comprehensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:10 PM
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Well, unrealistic expectations of sex, and desensitization to what normal is in terms of male bodies. Men who use porn excessively often experience the inability to ejaculate or maintain an erection in normal sex. Their penis is simply not stimulated by a woman's vagina anymore. As a guy on Twitter hypothesized, watching porn too much rewires your brain into being a loose cuckold. You get off masturbating to others having sex. For women using large dildos a lot it's similar, without the cuckold …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 03:59 PM
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Not intimidated, but I'd probably reconsider being with her. Using a dildo that big would probably make actual sex less or even unenjoyable for both of us. I'd actually even say excessive use of large dildos for women would also likely cause similar issues psychologically as excessive porn does in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:38 PM
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That's such a porn thing really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:31 PM
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To me it's more their way of stifling debate. A functional society that wants to progress needs to talk about ideas. It's the sticky label approach I don't like. The idea that people are somehow uniform and agreeing with one thing someone says automatically means you're the same as them. I see both sides doing it and it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:08 PM
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Or the left's proclivity to label anyone who disagrees with any of it as a right winger or a Nazi. Loads of left leaning people disagree with the divisiveness of identity politics whilst still recognizing oppression exists and working to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:59 PM
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Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:40 PM
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Hard to see anything worse than SJWs. They've taken Marxist theory and made it so extreme even a lot of communists hate them. The idea they can make some great and ordered society by telling all races, genders, and sexual orientations to hate one another is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:39 PM
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Because the way the battle lines have been drawn is that they cannot coexist. Any sign, no matter if it's extreme like TRP or milder, that men might be empowering themselves and not being ashamed of who they are is misogyny and therefore anathema to many of the more vocal public feminists who would rather men throw themselves at their mercy incessantly apologizing just for being an evil man. Same goes for a lot of the vocal and extreme TRP/MRA types like Roosh. Any sign of women empowering thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:00 PM
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It's a mixture of both. You can't put too much effort in otherwise you can be seen as clingy or controlling. You can't put no effort in or you're seen as uncaring. I think though that putting too much effort in to a relationship leads to more shit tests from women, not less. They think you're overcompensating, or hiding something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:15 AM
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Hardly a new thing in human development and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:58 AM
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It seems to apply in some form though. We already know that the majority of human males who have existed never reproduced, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:45 AM
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That's not trashing the place. That's called cleaning house. That's what Chad does, all the time, with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:44 PM
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Probably because you're a minority or a woman. Either that or an immigrant will do a better job for less money with less whinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:41 PM
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Or within TRP, just not the sub. They can always just read RP blogs or go on Twitter and see a different side of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:38 PM
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That's never how communist societies have worked unfortunately. They've always needed the us vs them mentality, and it has lead to millions of deaths through their actions and the consequences of those actions. Historically it was class, now it's everything from ethnicity to gender. Separate people into groups and create rifts, make the downtrodden see every bad thing as a consequence of white supremacy or patriarchy. Things like appropriation are tools in that. Rather than seeing the white woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:23 PM
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Cultural appropriation is often used by the extreme elements like hard line anarchists to destroy any ability for groups to come together. If you stop people from forming bonds and developing a common culture through the expression of ideas then society will splinter and crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:14 PM
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It's somewhat of a quirky thing that often the "white male privilege" argument comes from those who have pretty privileged backgrounds themselves. It's not usually those from poorer backgrounds who use that term, even when they have been college educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:09 PM
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I agree there are levels of prejudice in the world that need addressing. To use an easy and non controversial example: Sex slavery is evil and disproportionately affects women and the poor. So it needs to be dealt with in a society and government level. Where it swings between debatable and just flat bullshit is where they feel everything that happens is some form of oppression. If a white man gets the job over a minority or a woman it's instantly seen as racism or sexism at play, when it isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:31 AM
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It's not even just that. It's the psychological damage it inflicts. It can do irreparable damage to another persons ability to trust another human being. They've opened themselves up and got trampled on, and that will cascade down to other partners down the line when they're late or don't pick up their phone etc. Even therapy struggles to put cheated upon people back together again. It helps, but they're still only one trigger event away from it all coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 10:04 AM
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Oh come on, the memo itself isn't even anti-diversity. All the memo does if give other potential factors for the lack of women in tech other than institutional sexism. It's not anywhere near as bad when read in its entirety as the media made it out to be with selective quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:17 AM
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He sent it to relevent groups, not all of Google, with the understanding it would be seen as feedback kept between the particular groups in question and himself. That is standard within all large organizations. Semi private or fully private groups and lists for projects etc. Taking the memo out if it. A lot of directors and upper management particularly in multinational corporations are far apart so use either calls, messenger or email groups to keep in touch. If something one director says is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:12 AM
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The point you seem to have missed is he didn't circulate it outside groups it was intended for. They did. That he's a socially awkward moron with no concept of social graces isn't up for debate (shock horror he's a scientist and a tech nerd). What the whole fiasco proves is that the premise of ideological eco chambers was correct. Feedback wanted and anonymous, but only if it agrees with us, if not, you're fired. If I worked for Google right now I'd be trying to get out. Nothing to do with wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:09 PM
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Hmm, my understanding of it is he wrote it and sent it privately as feedback to diversity training groups which had asked for feedback after the training. He asked them to critique it but they never responded. One group then spread the memo within Google outside of the group's they were intended for and then it leaked externally. He then got fired for the public backlash and the reason Google gave was something along the lines of holding bigoted and politically incorrect views. He is now sueing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:10 PM
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Going to be 100% honest. I've been approached a fair amount by really unattractive women, and it's not nice, particularly when they're drinking. It's not a nice situation to be in, particularly if their approach is slapping or pinching your ass, or plastering themselves all over you. If she's good looking and approaches my first thought is she's a prostitute tbh. Think that'd be the same for most guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:06 PM
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Michelle Rodriguez with the classic move of wanting to be the star and have a big pay check and trying to justify it with "muh equality!" Hard to believe people still fall for this in 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 03:47 AM
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All the best shows are like that. HBO's Rome was another one. Rushed second season due to cancellation because it was so expensive to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:29 PM
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You really wouldn't. People ALWAYS say that, until they get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:25 PM
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Pretty much what a few guys and girls I met travelling in India who were from Malmo said. They said they find the UK cheap compared to Sweden, and that was pre-Brexit. They also complained a lot about their taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:22 PM
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The rich aren't really interested in big guns in Europe. They're more interested in fiddling little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:18 PM
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Ukraine is pretty good still. They're just really cold in terms of attitude, pretty normal for people in that region though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:16 PM
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'But I'm on the outside, I'm looking in, I can see through you, See your true colors, 'Cause inside you're ugly, You're ugly like me, I can see through you, See to the real you!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 11:24 PM
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Usually some variant of "Men are bad, Women are good" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:44 PM
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You can't stop people moving, but you can make sure they pay a hefty 'exit' bill if they decide to go. No matter who you vote for you're going to get more tax, only difference is the scale. The Tories tax the majority and cut taxes to the rich, that doesn't work. Corbyn wants no more taxes on the majority and high taxes on the rich, that doesn't work either. How about the middle road no one talks about of higher taxes for the rich, but also slightly higher rates for everyone else? No politician …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:13 PM
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Which is all Cornyn wanted as a start. To be blunt, EDF in France is majority state owned utilities as is SNCF for trains 100% state owned. Both are better than anything we have. France went over the top, their rate over 500k earnings was 80% I believe. That's oppressive. I don't think Corbyn wanted that. Plus there are ways of enforcing it so people are reluctant to leave. The other stuff I think is just common sense. Why should the government cut funding for public schools whilst giving more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:02 PM
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It's just ironic Theresa May setting her pets on him because he supported dialogue with the IRA, calling him a terrorist, then getting in with the DUP herself. Socialism works fine in France and many other countries let's not get the American paranoia here. Economically it can work, what we know hasn't worked , unsurprisingly, is austerity, which doesn't surprise any economist I talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 11:09 AM
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In that sense, but on the other hand no majority makes brexit negotiations harder. Plus now we have the Conservatives in bed with bluddy terrorists. Not to mention were likely going to have a mother election soon. I ended up voting for Labour this time, the Conservative campaign was awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 10:51 AM
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Well, the UK is screwed now. Best hope CANZUK actually becomes a thing, then I am offski.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:57 PM
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His Ruben Report interview is a good place to start i'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:55 PM
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You're deliberately misconstruing his point because his point offends you. Re-educating 400 million native speakers, and 1.1 billion secondary speakers to start using additional pronouns such as 'zir' instead of him/her is an utterly ridiculous task. Trying to force people to use those pronouns under threats of 'hate speech' if they don't is also ridiculous. You have about a 0% chance of changing a whole language in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:53 PM
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I think the moment you ban something like TRP is the moment a lot of people, not even remotely linked to or endorsing of TRP would turn on SJWs and "political correctness gone mad." It would be far too Orwellian "wrong-think" for a lot of people, because in the end, EVERYONE holds at least one opinion that isn't popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:43 PM
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The image of that couple calmly walking away with their drinks in hand sums up Britain neatly haha. Keep calm, carry on, and don't you dare spill your drink!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 09:46 AM
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I liked him on the Ruben Report, came across as genuine. I liked his bit where he explained how the idea of God or Gods is important to societal stability. That God is the abstract of the idea of society, and crucial to our development. Apart from standing against gender pronouns and some of the other nonsense I don't know much about his work or ideas though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 11:08 PM
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Running is good for you, breeds a lot of physical and mental resilience. However distance running is not the most efficient way of burning fat, building strength or growing muscle. You can get all the benefits from HIIT or just cicuits and supersets. E.g 8-12 reps deadlift, 10 pushups, 10 burpees, 45 second plank hold. 20 second rest. Repeat x5.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:26 PM
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Yeah I think it's this. Even among their friends in bars people would rather play on their phones than talk now. People are more focussed on what their friends are doing elsewhere and showing themselves to be having fun with selfies than enjoying the moment. It's the dual edged sword of less opportunities and more likely to miss opportunities that are there because of distractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:53 PM
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That is true, to a point. We see similar behaviours in our close relatives, prioritizing female safety over males, particularly in shortages. However, you have to bare in mind individuals of each species are selfish by nature. Richard Dawkins' most famous work Scientifically talks exactly of this, The Selfish Gene. Individuals will cooperate as long as it raises the basic living standards of all. More food? Higher safety? then you group up. That is why humans grouped up. We aren't the strongest …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 02:10 PM
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They're blaming the oligarchy, that is that throughout human history groups of individuals have always held power over the majority of people. That is the nobility and Kings/Queens in the middle ages, the patricians and Emperor's in Rome, Kings/Queens/Pharaohs etc in the ancient world. The 1% in modern society, who own the mega corporations that hold huge sway over government policies and elections. Rupert Murdoch is a prime example, just look at how much his corporation and by extension HE owns…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 01:40 PM
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Awww doodums.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:18 PM
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Psychology, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:10 PM
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Errrr you live your own life and stop worrying about other people. Dating and biology is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:09 PM
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I've always thought of true love as physical attraction+friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 02:10 PM
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Yeah. Think also he might have something in person that you don't get from TV. I know my friend before she met Mick Jagger never found him hot, then she was in the same room as him once and she said he gave off an energy that made him attractive. Think it could possibly be similar to Trump. People do say he has a 'presence' about him when met in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:22 PM
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Money = Power. Power has been written about as a powerful aphrodisiac to women for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:16 PM
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Dudes always had hot women around him, so yeah guess in some way he's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:11 PM
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This. I think everyone is the same. Men and women care about some issues and they care about their friends and family, but average person? Nope. You see often with women as an example campaigning about prostate cancer, but then you always see there was a family death or death of someone close to them that started it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:27 PM
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Time to step up your game 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:22 PM
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Where I work you have performance based pay rises, plus a bonus, on top of a general pay rise usually for inflation. Yeah, after a while they should be let go. Thing is this contributes to the image of the pay gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:47 PM
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Sometimes I see things from them that seem more misogynistic than the things they're upset about were.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:40 PM
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Again I'm not arguing maternity, I think that's fair enough. A certain period of time off on full and then half pay from your employer. Where I disagree is the argument that the employer should keep the woman and pay her full indefinitely just to stop some 'pay gap' when she's not given anything back to the company in possibly 10-15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:26 PM
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When isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:19 PM
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I guess the difference is men in general are more honest about it, even if honesty isn't our intention, we're so visual and obvious with attraction we can't hide it. So if men are asked what is attractive to them they'll list the physical a lot, whilst women tend to list how sweet and caring and loving he needs to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:16 PM
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I wasn't talking about maternity leave pay. I was talking about the women who choose to take much longer than 6 months off, yet seem to expect pay for the 5 years they're out, and to come back in on exactly the same wages as a male colleague who has been doing the same job but has 5 years more experience now. That's vastly different, and not economically practical. Anyway, most people manage with kids okay without expecting handouts. Because most people know they need to have the economics strai…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:05 PM
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So you actually need quite a lot actually. The Beatles lied. Bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:00 PM
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Yeah this, even recommending someone read a book on there leads to a bunch of woe is me posts in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:43 PM
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Then that's tough luck. Don't have kids if you can't make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:23 PM
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Yeah I can see that. Unfortunately though you always end up taking holidays at the most expensive times to go and stuff, and you have to deal with screeching brats who you aren't allowed to discipline for fear of being accused of child abuse or mental cruelty for god knows how many hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:28 PM
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Oh okay, I took the second as in give them free money for having kids. That is still like the UK used to be with the whole have 8 kids government pays you for each dynamic. I don't really agree with it as it encourages laziness. To me though what you said is a catch-22. I can agree with the idea, but none of the practical methods work. I can't agree with making employers pay, and I don't like the idea of the government doing it either, as I hate the idea of too much government intervention, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:54 PM
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Terrible world to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:39 PM
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W.T.F.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:38 PM
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Just don't get married or knock up crazy, best way round it. Or if you're that worried about being entrapped by CS just get a vasectomy and freeze some of your sperm for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:37 PM
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Well to me I'd rather pay twice the going rate in CS than pay any alimony, if I was in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:34 PM
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Yeah international is where it's at. In some places you don't even need the qualification, just a certificate in teaching English, and you can earn as much as many teachers do, and in a country where the cost of living is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:32 PM
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Or we could have the half way we have now and she works part time and earns a part time salary? Or she doesn't work and they make do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:30 PM
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If anything, when I read it, I saw a critique of some aspects of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:20 PM
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The first is where we're at, a part from feminists complaining, no one else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 01:46 PM
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How much of that is socialization and how much of that is biological preferences though? Biological studies on the brains of men and women have shown significant differences in the brain that can lead to preferences in the work each sex does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 12:58 PM
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In the UK teachers pay is pretty awful, but when its mentioned they generally get the response that they get huge amounts of holidays a year as well. Generally they get 7 weeks for summer off, 3 weeks Christmas, 2 weeks at Easter and 3 weeks of "Half term" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 12:52 PM
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But why should companies pay for that? If a woman is working part time hours or leaves for x number of years for children, why should they pay her a full time salary? If companies pay wages to people who aren't bringing money to the company, that'll stagnate the growth of the company, and if you expand that to every company in any country, that'll invariably lead to stagnation of the economy at best, huge inflation and a full on recession at worst. I don't think anyone, men or women would be hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 12:49 PM
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That's what I thought as well. I'd like to say that I think if the relationship is strong that wouldn't bother anyone, but I think having all that aired publicly would probably hurt a lot of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:09 PM
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The first one I got was from here http://www.unilad.co.uk/tv/girl-shocks-audience-with-cringe-sex-confession-about-boyfriend/ But I couldn't find it at the time of posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:06 PM
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To me it depends on the circumstances. Another guy that she finds attractive? Until I had evidence of her doing something wrong, whatever. Everyone has a crush and as long as she doesn't act on it with me, I don't care. If I found out she was talking to a guy from her work, and engaging in something more emotional and touchy feely with him, I'd probably break up with her, even if she hadn't had sex or even kissed him. My reasoning would be if she's out and about flirting and having little lunche…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:58 PM
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I think he is more getting at the emotional aspect of it. It's having the feelings of a relationship for a third party, not just sexual attraction, whilst they're still in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:47 PM
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Here's one I just picked off Google https://heatst.com/culture-wars/male-feminist-youtuber-arrested-for-murdering-female-co-host/ Sure if you Google his name you can find other sources as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 01:56 PM
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I'd second martial arts. Definitely best way to teach your kids not to be out of control aggressive. The sense of confidence and safety they give is great. I'd also say to teach him skills from a fairly young age. Any DIY the father is doing just have the son shadow him and teach him.I wasn't that interested as a kid but did it and can say knowing how to build things, fix things and maintain things like a car is a great life skill. I'd also say have the kid involved in something creative, like p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:15 PM
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So far anyway, lifts are still exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:32 PM
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We're okay generally. It's all been set up by the nutritionist at the gym we go to. It's outside on weekends we suffer. At home we can cook delicious low carb stuff so we're happy. Had some pretty big weight loss, and maintained strength too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:10 PM
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3 weeks in to a really low carb keto diet to trim off some fat with some friends before we go away in 2.5 weeks. The suffering is real when you're outside and see people eating chips (fries) :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:34 PM
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Yeah, its a silly fear unless you're consuming huge dosages of the stuff. But it comes down to everything in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:52 PM
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Yeah, but same goes for a lot of guys as well. This: https://kas054.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/girls-on-their-phone.jpg Is just really unhealthy to me I think just in general we're too addicted to our phones. The ultimate FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:44 PM
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Yeah, that is Nice Guy(TM). Classic example is the "Feminist" Guy who killed one of the feminists he made YouTube videos about feminism with a few weeks ago. Would be text book Nice Guy(TM) to become everything you think she wants then go into a rage when she doesn't like you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:37 PM
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Well, put it this way. If you're spending time in a bar with your friends, on your phone, on Facebook or some other app chatting to friends who are not actually there rather than enjoying being around the people who are. That's too much social media. Sadly, I see this with women A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:28 PM
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Deep soy. Trashes testosterone and encourages estrogen production. All a secret feminist conspiracy to kill masculinity off. I know it because some dude on Twitter told me a week ago. He had no reason to lie!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:26 PM
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Well in David Reimer's case it was psychologists and his parents who pushed him, not biologists. The medical profession just made a botch of an operation, the rest is on his parents and the advice they got, and the individual doctors who did it. Really that has got to be one of the most significant cases of Psychological cruelty I've ever seen. My point was more that Biologists don't go into that when they talk about male-female brains. They simply say there's differences, and leave the moral an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:26 PM
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I think genetics has a larger part to play than most people, especially people heavily invested in social sciences, would like to admit. Most social science, based on its view of gender roles as a construct, and biological sex being irrelevant would say your case shouldn't happen. But that proves how complex we are, and how analysis of biology or from a social POV can both be wrong, or right, or one can be wrong or right, depending on each particular individual. You could go deep and say, if a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:10 PM
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It isn't in biology's remit to make those assertions on whether a guy has a female brain or a woman has a male brain. All it can say categorically is biological sex has an impact on how your brain is structured. All the studies I've seen from biologists have never even entered into the discussion of what that means for you on a conscious level, instead they analyse each part of the brain and how it can cause a disposition towards certain things. An example is that studies have found the male bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:55 PM
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Yeah there's that. Also that porn isn't exactly representative of normal sex. As its choreographed it can give you an overly perfect representation of what sex actually is. That is without going into all the penis size and performance anxiety it can give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 09:27 PM
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My Dad and uncles told me how to be good sexually. I'm glad they did as otherwise I'd have gone off porn and that would be a mistake. They also advised me about getting regular HIV screens as a matter of habit (uncle was in his promiscuous phase during the 80s) My mum gave me advice on how to get girls. Mostly useless though as it all requires context and the big things guys who are successful do are often underpinned by smaller things that are forgotten by the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:47 PM
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The lines can blur a bit, which is why Ed finds himself labelled a misogynist by association. TRP generally rushes to defend other TRPers who get attacked, which can lead people to believe it is all the same.. But when you dig you'll see things like Rollo and Roosh really not liking each other etc. It's a bit like all movements. Two feminists might disagree 100% on the issues but when one is attacked the other will still defend her etc. The thing with Ed is that he gave a non RP related speech o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:00 PM
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Not really. To me TRP has splintered a lot. You have people like Goldmund and Ed Latimore on twitter who are really mild and liberal with a lot of their postings. If they didn't identify themselves as Red Pill, you'd probably call them Purple, at least by this subs standards. Then you have the TRP subreddit. Not much to say there that hasn't been said, and isn't known. Then you have the whole RooshV "Neomasculinity" stuff, which is the politicizing of TRP for an end goal "the return of patriarch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:41 PM
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Working long hours isn't the same as being 'hard working'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:48 PM
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Yeah, and people feel compelled into saying 'the right thing' to satisfy our politically correct overlords and for fear of being labelled racist as opposed to even believing half the stuff they say. You see the difference come out generally in those "Allow refugees to share your home" things, where they're all for it, in principle, changes promptly when they're asked to actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:37 PM
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Not true. Really, really not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:52 PM
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An argument could be made that those conflicts persist because we're now seen as too soft (particularly among Islamist groups) to use our worst weapons, and too worried about potential collateral damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 05:32 PM
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We don't. But no one wants to put another nuclear power in a position where as a last resort they launch the missiles. In comparison to previous centuries 1945 to now has been extremely peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 05:23 PM
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Nah, great deterrent. WWIII would have happened without the threat of mutual destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 05:11 PM
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I see this a lot where I am in the UK as well. Daddies little princesses, my mum calls them. SAHM who seems mysteriously absent anyway, Dad has a crazy income (good for them if it works) but no time with kids, so just chucks money at them to show them they're loved. Then after uni, they just go out to clubs and hawk drinks off guys, and 'date' the guys who meet their income standard, but only short term. Guess it depends on where you are, really though. I can see where the others come from becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:42 PM
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LOL, okay pats head
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:41 PM
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Yeah this. Dealing with men's issues from within gender studies and intersectionality is baffling to me. You're going to try and claim oppression against men, by using a social hypothesis that has men as the oppressors...and literally holds being a man above being a woman in every circumstance. Yeah, good luck with that snowflakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 01:23 PM
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Sociologists think everything is about power, including why the chicken crossed the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 09:02 AM
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He did go through a stage late last year and early this year of that yeah, but he has said he disagrees with a lot of his guests, however he feels you need to hear their point of view. I suppose in an election year too that's normal, and Trump supporters weren't exactly given much of a shot by the mainstream to discuss their ideas. A lot of his guests lately have been more diverse. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Jordan Peterson etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:26 AM
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Seems a lot like what happened to Dave Rubin. I can identify as well with that. Something changed within the last 10-15 years and I find it hard to identify as left wing now. I think to me it was realizing as well that a the really vocal and represented (by the media) people aren't interested in empowering other groups or their own, they have begun to revel in their own victim hood. Like in your case by questioning her economics you're almost taking away her 'victim cred'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 12:59 AM
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Depends really with the Qu'ran. You can easily separate it into Mecca and Medina.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 11:44 PM
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Beginning to sound like Andrea Dworkin now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:25 PM
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The ISIS remark made me think of this - http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/terrorist-attack-muslims-mentally-ill-japan-france-germany-men-its-toxic-masculinity-a7158156.html Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 10:24 PM
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I thought she was a comedian in character at first, kinda like Al Murray in the UK has an act as a stereotypical English lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:38 PM
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They're generally distasteful to me. But by no means the worst. In Valenti's case it seems her feminism is just opportune, and she will write often contradictory things. A while back she wrote an article about men imposing on women everywhere by feeling the need to make small talk. Then saying after the Trump/Merkel episode how men always ignore women. A lot of the mainstream commenters on feminism don't seem to have a coherent point. They'll latch on to anything a guy or a group of guys do and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:23 PM
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She was supposed to be joint ruler, but if you read her story, she was marginalized and in exile before she seduced Julius Caesar, and through him ousted her brother the Pharaoh, and gained the throne. Cassius Dio actually described her - ""For she was a woman of surpassing beauty, and at that time, when she was in the prime of her youth, she was most striking; she also possessed a most charming voice and knowledge of how to make herself agreeable to everyone. Being brilliant to look upon and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 10:24 PM
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Greater emotional range I'd say. Also I think a lack of physical and political power lead some women who wanted to rise to rise through manipulation, deceit and use of their own desirability. Cleopatra is a good example. Seeing as there's not a lot of talk on the average woman the stories come from the women who achieved power in some form. Those stories were analysed and used for the judgments. Not all that different to now when some claim men as the root of all evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 09:41 PM
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I think some of those guys get into feminism as a textbook way of proving they're nice guys (tm). It can definitely appeal to a subset of desperate incels. Surrounded by women, showing how supportive and nice they are, campaigning for their issues, maybe one of them will take a shine to them, appreciate them for being so nice. Except the women reject him or see him as a friend, and he snaps and rapes/murders them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:54 PM
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I suppose, I won't even go into the hassle that girl caused me post breakup, including accusations of assault on two separate occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:51 PM
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I have a hard time thinking I'm good enough. I think of it as me previously being severely overweight, and then losing the weight. Even though I've had an LTR, date a bit and had a few ONS I still get feelings that I'm not worth women's time, and I amplify my flaws (especially any perciebed physical flaws) on the back of it, despite my friends attempts to snap me out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:26 PM
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I think a lot of talk about masculinity and femininity are overblown. They're just early human conceptions used to try and gain understanding of the world. Masculinity in principle is simply things men tend to like to do, and habits they often have. Femininity is the same for women. At some point those words seem to have been expanded, weaponized and had motivations attached to them, often with no evidence either historically or now. The generally accepted belief that femininity = love and peace…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:40 PM
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That isn't technically how it worked, though. Studies of primitive cultures now are actually showing an egalitarian workload, with men spending a lot of time with the kids. Mixed hunting groups weren't uncommon, utilizing the physical benefits of each. Women are lighter on their feet and smaller, if you want to ambush prey, makes sense for them to be the ones who sneak in. If the prey runs, or turns to fight, the men would tag themselves in, greater strength, speed and stamina helping. The idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:26 PM
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It is a PUA term yeah. Just a way of filtering out needless time syncs and to get towards the girls who are interested. It should really be common sense, but it is amazing how often you see people of both sexes wasting time chasing after someone who clearly isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 03:41 PM
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Yeah, otherwise it's just another kind of love, as in friendship or family. It's sex that makes it romantic, and gives that extra connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:54 PM
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I really wouldn't wait that long. Don't get me wrong I'm not someone who is automatically in for sex after 1/2/3 dates or any real time limit. But if I'd been seeing a girl a couple times a week for 3 months and got nothing but maybe a cursory peck on the cheek or a kiss, I'd probably assume she isn't interested and break it off. To me sex is an important part of romantic love, so the longer she deferred on it the more I'd likely lose interest myself, as I'd start to doubt my own feelings, and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:33 PM
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Ooooh boy....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:08 PM
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Yeah, I don't understand why some guys feel that a woman is somehow going to know. I'd just chalk it in as a one night stand in any conversation with a partner and not go into detail. I dint think many women want to know the details if their partners ONS anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 07:44 PM
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They can have a logical circlejerk when it comes to similar issues that can effect men that can make it appear they hate men. An example, if they can't see the harm in shaming men for being virgins yet go mad about slut shaming. If you can't take a step back and see how making value and character judgements based on someone's partner count is bad no matter what, you open yourself up to the accusation of hating men. But just in general. When they don't practice reciprocity, go mad at men for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 05:43 PM
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I'd say it's feminisms pretty unique take on history that can aggravate men. They have tended to take Christian western society and culture and apply it everywhere, and take the idea all cultures were equally oppressive. Which is false. They also tend to think of men as a hive mind to blame for all societies ills. Like we all get together once a week to discuss how to oppress women that week. It's almost a natural defense for men to take credit for the good if they're being blamed for the bad. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 05:30 PM
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Agree with this. Pretty much what I was going to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:13 PM
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This woman rebuts a lot of the criticisms very well - https://areomagazine.com/2017/05/21/sokal-affair-2-0-penis-envy-addressing-its-critics/ I think what's funny is how many actually seem to think the paper made a good argument haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 03:43 PM
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Biology and physics aren't that influential daily to society. A physicist getting a theory about a far off Castro phenomena wrong has less impact on normal people than the social sciences do. We've given shrinks the ability to prescribe meds to people based on studies and papers that can't be replicated. That's far more dangerous than anything biology has done since eugenics, and we all know how that turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:55 PM
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Okay. https://youtu.be/MNnd1VEaNe4
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:46 PM
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So who is the victim? The women making the remarks? Okay....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:19 PM
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Except it is, you're shaming someone based on their sex lives or even their sexual preferences. You say it's made up yet you just did it. Great job, keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:12 PM
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Nah. More pointing out how moronic your generalizations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:05 PM
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Yeah, 99% of sluts are disgusting people as well. They too deserve to be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:02 PM
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...and a good attitude is what? Allowing them to hurt his feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:01 PM
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Barely even counts as a sweater.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 10:55 PM
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Neuroscience has the potential to be far better, and more in keeping with the Scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:23 PM
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Yeah, the guys a bellend. Just goes to show if Science goes against belief, no matter your political view, it must be the Science that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:13 PM
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I've only had it happen once. Tipsy former colleague at a bar who'd just come back from uni. Exasperated her by never admitting I was one, despite her attempts, and ended up having a Fwb thing with her for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:36 PM
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The "You believe in equal rights between the sexes? You're a feminist!" stuff is silly. It's a bit like saying "You believe in the study of primates? That makes you a primatologist!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:26 PM
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I think overall its proof that you can't rely on social science studies or papers any more than you can Wikipedia. You can't just post the study you need to check it's sources to prove they exist or say what the paper claims they say. I think a lot of it comes down to the post modern beliefs that have infected social science. A belief set that says there is no nature, reality is all subjective, everything is a social construct and the aim of life is power, and the need for power is simply to opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:07 PM
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I'd agree with this to a point. Very few scientists as an example seem to be doing anything to rectify the fact QM and GR don't go together. Only Hawking has made a concerted effort beyond just parroting ideas other people had.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:20 AM
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He just pipes in too much. An example like I said, aliens. He has had the tendency in recent years to give his opinion freely on aliens. But that is way out of his expertise. He's no more qualified to talk about aliens than I am, or you are. Same with Dawkins and DeGrasse Tyson. They seem to consistently talk about aliens, what they'll look like, what they won't look like etc. They pass pure hypotheticals off as facts and that is pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:32 AM
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Usually yeah. A lot of Dawkins and Hawkings actual science is good, but in the last 10 years they've become publicity whores. The moment they start trying to use their scientific knowledge to authoritively talk about aliens they lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:40 PM
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So you honestly think if you knew that you could have 5 10/10 girls who wanted sex with you, or 5 5/10s wanting the same that guys are really going to go for the 5s and not the 10s...okay. There's a reason men find hot women attractive beyond socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:06 PM
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All psychology is pseudoscience. People like Jordan Peterson can be thought provoking but nothing they say or claim is really out there, it's pretty much common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:00 PM
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Yeah because they take what they can get. Because they're still operating in scarcity. In a situation like what women deal with where they go on a hook up site and can get say, 100% matches who all want sex with them, guys will gravitate to swiping just for the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:53 PM
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It's actually a pretty widely used phrase herd in the UK for anti fat shaming or body beautiful groups, mostly because fit is used as a substitute for hot in physical beauty. It's also in the annoying amount of videos going round on Facebook of a fat person doing 10 burpees or 50 star jumps and deeming themselves healthy on the back of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:47 PM
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You're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:39 PM
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Yeah, the Italians actually use eggs and no milk or cream. You can pretty much halve the calories and increase the health benefits cooking it the traditional way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 10:37 PM
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I actually did that in Cambodia and Thailand last year. Also did it in Ukraine a couple years back. Got really picky really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:42 PM
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If you could fuck 10 supermodels, you'd prefer it to 10 average chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:40 PM
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I don't know what it's called in the US. But the dish in Europe anyway is called Carbonara.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:39 PM
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Which flies in the face of the amount of average men who do walk around with average or even attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 05:08 PM
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I wouldn't say he's right kicking her out. I also wouldn't say he's a bad parent, as my parents raised me much the same way as him and I wouldn't have ever dreamed of bringing girls home at random like that, without informing them first. To me if I was in his situation it'd be less about what she was doing, and more a bit of horror about a lot random men entering into my house. I'd question how well she knew the men, as they could be anyone, including thieves, child molesters etc when it comes d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 05:02 PM
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Same for most of the women in my life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:53 PM
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Of course it's selfish. Everyone goes for the best they can get. If you take all variables out apart from looks, and you know you can get better, you're going to go for the best looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:51 PM
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But that isn't applying in real life as much. Looks in isolation causes huge problems for men, when other factors come in to play, even more average looking men have success. That's why TRP advocates Game so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:49 PM
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It's hard to avoid the problem foods though. It's not just bad advice from governments. I know for example in the US, compared to where I live in the UK, everything tastes REALLY sweet, from the bread and milk upwards. In France you can buy milk that's not even in a Fridge, and has a BBE date of 3-4 weeks. For most it is simple though, no non-natural sugars, complex carbs in managed portions, more natural sugars (not too much though) and fats (nuts), and my biggest one is managing dairy, avoidin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:46 PM
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I enjoy debating. Being honest if I see it's getting nowhere and no one is budging, I'll just stop replying. It's easier to allow that person to think they've 'won' than to go through the hassle of replying. It's made me realize at least some of my views are compatible with some feminist or BP views people put forward, but in other ways I feel miles apart from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:36 PM
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Tinder is a raw deal for men. The thing is when you look at what Science and most women tell you about what women are attracted to, looks is a small part of it. Yet Tinder takes pretty much everything out of it apart from how you look. In a bizarre way it's a system designed with men's attraction model in mind (looks based), but actually penalizes them, as men just swipe to most girls they find hot, which ends up with a lot of women getting a very good swipe to match ratio, which leads the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:27 PM
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You can also if you do like cooking just substitute foods. I love pasta with tomato sauces, for example. Easy to just switch to wholewheat pasta, and add extra veggies to the sauce, like Kale, Spinach, Carrots, even Broccoli. Even just cooking more like the country of origin as opposed to the hatchet job of a lot of countries that have weight problems have done on dishes. There's nothing fattening if you eat curries made how the Indians actually make them (lots of veggies, natural yoghurt and/or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:08 PM
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That and you smash this myth that has spread through societies about people being "fat but fit" or that "fat is beautiful" or that "fat has no health risks" Part of it is a bit of tough love, like this - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/fat-fit-myth-big-not-beautiful-stop-making-excuses-obesity/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 03:57 PM
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That's disgusting. Being honest the thing I've taken out of it is that some drunk people act inappropriately, and they ruin it for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 03:54 PM
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True but we can go by reports of people around him at the time. The general idea seems to be he liked having women around, to look at and amuse him, but he wasn't sexual. I imagine that's the artist in him, appreciating beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 01:51 PM
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Well the few studies done on late millenials and gen z show they are much more socially conservative than earlier millenials. Too early to say with relationships, but if they remain more conservative than millenials it's likely their relationships will be more conservative as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 01:45 PM
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An overweight chick got really forceful with me once in a club. Grabbed me between the legs, slapped my ass, and even started licking my cheek. Hated it but had no recourse to deal with it. Where I live if a woman reports it or the bouncers see it they throw the guy out. With guys they do nothing. My ex dealt with it at the time, but it did make me realize men have no real out in a lot of those situations, while women do have some protections in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 01:27 PM
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