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2

Mystery built the framework/foundation which allowed modern PU. It’s quite outdated but has a lot of good foundational concepts.
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:28 AM
3

What’s with this fixation of texting? Probably the most difficult form of conversation to get to sex.
/r/seduction06/07/24 01:45 PM
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What do you mean you’re not allowed? Before I retired, I was the infectious diseases specialist in a hospital. I slept with nurses, dieticians, therapists, doctors, and 2 students from several different units.
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:26 PM
0

Have to agree. People need to learn to close more and read queues better.
/r/seduction26/06/24 12:12 PM
5

You are perfectly correct in terms of your assessment about cost and timing. I go at 11 and I get only water. I hardly spend anything except paying the cover fee and tipping the bartender. I also don’t buy girls drinks unless we’re already deep in and I know I can get the pull. Getting phone numbers is extremely easy. The fact you only got 1 is problematic because girls are giving the numbers out like candy. You aren’t closing enough. I’m able to get 2-3 phone numbers after talking to a girl for…
/r/seduction15/06/24 11:22 PM
5

Thanks for sharing your perspective. If OP can do extensive research, he may find a good place to go to. But jumping into Latin America blindly would be dumb.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:22 PM
1

Red flags lol. Be careful, she might go crazy.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:05 PM
14

If you’re from Canada, you have no idea what the fuck you’re walking into. I went to a non-tourist area of Mexico once and the local fucking news has a camera on my face because I am Asian and it is absolutely unusual to have any Asians here. I drew so much attention I had to leave. If you even open your mouth once, everyone will know you’re an outsider and it will draw an insane amount of attention. Don’t do it. You risk actual death.
/r/seduction14/06/24 01:15 PM
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Agree with top comments. When you do techniques and approach based on desperation, girls can sense that. It gives them the ick. Take a break, reevaluate, and change your mindset.
/r/seduction12/06/24 03:06 PM
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Statistically, no. College is where most people peak. Some people improve and make post-college incredible but statistically, college is the peak.
/r/seduction11/06/24 09:02 PM
3

The girls in Austin are hot. There is definitely a different style appearance-wise and personality-wise, but the girls feel more authentic in Austin. I’m primarily speaking with girls in their 20’s. Also, less boob jobs in Austin compared to Miami in my personal experience. I’m not a fan of plastic personally. I share the same sentiment as you in the sense that difficult sets build your skill set up.
/r/seduction05/06/24 09:04 PM
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Oh I’m ass backwards. Sorry. I just read your full post. I enjoy game in Austin. The girls there are more free and going to the UT campus is fun. And I wouldn’t do anymore Miami nightgame either unless you want to do it to feel the burn, then go to Austin and see how much easier it is.
/r/seduction05/06/24 08:24 PM
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You want to move to Miami because you think it’ll get easier? Bruh you’ve clearly never had experience with pickup in Miami. I haven’t been there in a couple of years and now I’m in a committed relationship, but here’s my experience. The girls there have attitude and are difficult to deal with. If you have money, some will actively try to milk you. And the worst part is some of these girls are dumb as fucking bricks and they are unapologetic about their stupidity. Normally I can hit about 1 in e…
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:43 PM
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Agreed. It’s tough and for me, I just had to stop talking to girls altogether because I’m in a committed relationship. I can’t turn it off.
/r/seduction01/06/24 12:22 AM
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That signals they’re trying to just have sex with no strings attached. She’s telling you she’s not trying to be your GF. Typically what prompts this is: your game style. If you game her like you’re a fuckboy, she may respond like this. Take this as a lesson. The same girl will behave differently depending on the man she’s with. With one man, she might close her legs if he’s religious. With another man, she might do drugs with him if that’s what he does. With another man, she might act more sex-f…
/r/seduction26/05/24 04:46 PM
0

Yes, absolutely true. If all other women don’t want you, why would she?
/r/seduction25/05/24 02:15 PM
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This is a shit show.
/r/seduction21/05/24 01:58 PM
2

Asking early isn’t bad if she stays in the interaction. Just ask again later when she’s ready. It’s the same with nearly every other escalation. Try to kiss her, she rejects but stays… try again in 5-10 minutes.
/r/seduction19/05/24 06:45 AM
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Leave with the girl first, then use the restroom. Or you can suggest that you both use the restroom. She will usually have a line and you don’t need to line up. Or you can tell her to hold your drink as you go pee. Better finish quickly and come back out.
/r/seduction19/05/24 02:28 AM
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If your only mystery is the fact that you are an unknown and the moment she knows you, she loses interest, your issue isn’t seduction. Your issue is you’re one dimensional. Find more hobbies and/or build your career. Or if you already have those, TALK ABOUT THEM.
/r/seduction11/05/24 12:48 PM
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You had a lot to work with. She said to “keep it here” which literally means she just wants to have an adventure with you. Can just bring her at the restroom or your car or somewhere else. This is the opposite of seduction. You made it transactional when you should have made it casual. She gave you numerous signals.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:17 PM
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Yes, no one will hit 100%. But you can make a reasonable effort to keep improving. Some of the best guys I know can hit 10-30% of the time depending on their game style and the setting they choose.
/r/seduction10/05/24 07:10 PM
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I learned that a lot of pick-up guys just want to repeat the same thing over and over. If you get rejected enough and you never learn from your errors, you begin thinking it’s a numbers game.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:21 AM
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Excited to tell her friends.
/r/seduction06/05/24 04:29 AM
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No one gets rejected that much unless you’re doing some grave mistakes lol.
/r/seduction05/05/24 06:34 AM
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Yes it’s fine. Stop trying to read the tea leaves.
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:42 PM
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You don’t need a slick reply lmao but I guess if you wanted a reply: “Sigh, yeah, about that… I had to delete it because too many women were stalking me.”
/r/seduction03/05/24 04:47 PM
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Daygame mostly. They’re everywhere lol.
/r/seduction30/04/24 11:09 PM
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Let me change your perspective. Just be cool lol. Beginners always fuck this up and the advice given is trash. Stop thinking in extremes such as “bad boys” vs “nice guys.” I always have to unprogram beginners because they keep thinking like this. Stop thinking being nice means a woman won’t sleep with you. Some women are extremely damaged and that’s what it’s come to, but most women aren’t like that. Just be a decent human being and also be a generally attractive person by having your own person…
/r/seduction29/04/24 03:19 PM
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Stop thinking in absolutes
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:20 PM
4

Glad to see some old school guys in here.
/r/seduction24/04/24 09:06 PM
2

She’s always alone? That’s a layup.
/r/seduction24/04/24 05:05 AM
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“Hey, I gotta run, I’ll catch up with you later tonight,” and then I hop to the girl that caught my eye. No one cares. Do it right in front of the group. It’s cool. They have no clue if that’s your friend, girlfriend, cousin, classmate, coworker, or a stranger. If you act weird, it will become weird. If you act like it’s normal, it will be normal.
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:18 PM
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Stop trying to build this up over the span of 3 dates. When you make sex a big moment like that, some girls aren’t down. Try to do it within the 1st or 2nd date. If she’s over at your place, do it on day 1. Main idea: make the sex “just happen.” If it builds up to an idea that you guys are going to do, it just doesn’t jive well with some people.
/r/seduction17/04/24 09:43 PM
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You have something on your face.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:44 PM
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I used to do that. I don’t enjoy the club scene or drinking alcohol. It’s only creepy if you make it creepy. Go and have a good time and others will have a good time with you.
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:53 PM
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Slow down when you need to rest lol. Stop sprinting. Either that, or let her ride you so you can rest.
/r/seduction14/04/24 06:08 AM
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She’s probably wondering why you didn’t make a move. She probably thinks you aren’t interested anymore. Not sure if you’ll get another chance. Try but don’t get offended if she turns down the invite.
/r/seduction07/04/24 07:00 AM
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“Real life…?” What the hell have you been doing, approaching bitches in the metaverse?
/r/seduction07/04/24 06:31 AM
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Stop hanging out with him. Your life will be easier.
/r/seduction27/03/24 04:32 AM
1

Put it down and try again 6 months later.
/r/seduction27/03/24 04:20 AM
0

Not necessarily. It depends on what you convey. Less is more. Be subtle and charming. Flirtation is needed. Instead of saying something obvious, you can say, “I want to have breakfast with you.” It is subtle but still implies sex since you’re waking up next to her.
/r/seduction25/03/24 06:40 AM
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Yup, spot on. If you act like you care for a 9 or a 10, you likely won’t sleep with her. You have to show her that you can take it or leave it. You have to show her you’re willing to walk out. And only then, will you have a higher success rate.
/r/seduction25/03/24 06:28 AM
2

Lesson learned, rent a car on your next vacation. You’ll pay less than the uber fee probably and you have ease of logistics.
/r/seduction25/03/24 05:39 AM
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This is a seduction subreddit. I’m not here to be politically correct so let’s talk about some actual infield experience. Generally I keep going until I get a second rejection, in which I take it as a hard stop and I don’t go any further. Just keep talking. 5 minutes later, the girl doesn’t have a boyfriend anymore. It’s not that complicated. And when I call the girl out on it, she apologizes and tells me she says that line instinctually. Just get past the initial introduction part and once she …
/r/seduction25/03/24 05:30 AM
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You’re a clown lol
/r/seduction23/03/24 11:39 PM
1

“No time” is a bullshit excuse. When I was in residency working 80 hours a week + doctorate level projects, publications, and research, I was still doing day and night game. I was also approaching the providers in my hospital.
/r/seduction22/03/24 08:21 PM
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I have the opposite issue lol. I have a girlfriend now and I notice that everything that comes out of my mouth to women is still flirtatious. It’s hard to turn it off even if I’m not trying to flirt. Honestly I’ve stopped talking to other women for now since my mouth keeps getting me into situations.
/r/seduction06/03/24 11:49 PM
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Usually alcohol or you feel awkward because daygame is less socially acceptable.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:44 AM
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I will tell you my perspective as a man, and in the final paragraph, I’ll give you recommendations for what you can do as a woman. For casual sex, I stay in control because I don’t want anything unhinged happening such as the girl bouncing and breaking my dick. I usually start in missionary or doggy after foreplay. If she’s able to do more, I progress into getting more adventurous. It’s a dance and you really just have to feel it out. Sometimes I get lucky and I find out the girl is relaxed enou…
/r/seduction03/03/24 07:30 PM
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Calibration is everything in escalation. And if you’re trying to flirt in text without any sort of flirting with her in person, you’re making it harder for yourself
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:38 PM
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Date and have fun. Don’t take it too serious with these type of girls. Also I’d start doing less dates and more hook-ups with her instead. My trick is to order takeout and have her drive to pick up the food and bring it directly to my couch with the preferred form of entertainment/Netflix/drinks ready. She might stay the night or she might leave after sex. Stop asking so many questions and stop taking it seriously. If you do, you lose her. It’s clear she just wants to fuck and have no strings at…
/r/seduction15/02/24 05:46 PM
1

Pump your chest out, walk with gusto, and smile.
/r/seduction15/02/24 05:40 AM
1

Are you wearing tighter fitting clothing?
/r/seduction13/02/24 03:19 AM
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For example, if you’re sad, don’t approach her pretending you’re happy and positive. Just tell her that you’re sad today, but it’s okay now because you’re talking to a pretty girl and “you changed my mood.” If you’re excited because you just ranked up on Valorant/League of Legends or if you pulled a rare character on a gacha game, just tell her that. For myself, I’m a huge stocks person so I’m always researching companies. I have no hesitation telling a girl about my latest investment or researc…
/r/seduction01/02/24 04:28 PM
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My game changing moment was: Realizing I can’t just do techniques or say lines for the sake of saying them. I need to say and do what I feel deeply in my soul at that exact moment. The moment I did this, I was able to pull about 1/3 of every approach. My success rate skyrocketed.
/r/seduction30/01/24 01:45 AM
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“Be yourself.” Is good if you are gaming true to yourself. What I mean is: if you feel something in your soul, you should probably say/do it because that is your reality. It is true to you. It is therefore congruent to you so you’ll do/say that thing with rizz. However, “be yourself,” is bastardized advice because people use it to justify staying obese, lazy, or dumb. I prefer the advice: “be your best self.” You are still being you, but you are striving to always improve. It is a wonderful idea…
/r/seduction26/01/24 07:13 PM
10

4 year college is a goldmine. Community college is pretty random but usually dry.
/r/seduction26/01/24 01:34 AM
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Yes…? This one should be abundantly obvious.
/r/seduction26/01/24 01:18 AM
1

Idk about “be a bad guy.” I encourage people to be the best versions of themselves. In my experience, having a beginner do indirect usually leads to conversations that end up nowhere because they don’t know how to escalate. Going direct is easier for a beginner.
/r/seduction16/12/23 09:50 PM
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This is one of the side effects of it a bunch of beginner guys going to the club at the same time. They end of comparing each other’s rejections. That’s probably why he wants to get rejected lightly.
/r/seduction16/12/23 06:27 PM
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My style of game is Low-key, but high intensity. This means I’m not always shouting and jumping, but I want the girls to look into my eyes and feel the intensity. Every single approach that you asked about is good. The main thing is to say exactly what you feel is congruent to your soul at that time. Say exactly what you actually, truly feel in your soul at that time: If you’re sad, don’t act like you’re happy when you approach her. Open her and tell her you’re sad but make sure to keep progress…
/r/seduction16/12/23 06:01 PM
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After reading all the comments and reading this post, I think I’m getting old. I’m only 29 but I’ve been in the game for so many years now that things are finally coming back full circle. I’m going to drop some historical knowledge from things I’ve learned from doing this for so long. The framing for this is going completely in the wrong direction, and I think a lot of people will disagree with me at first, but I hope my experience will push your thoughts to a different direction. You literally …
/r/seduction16/12/23 05:19 PM
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see.
/r/seduction07/12/23 09:18 PM
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It doesn’t read like a joke to me. There’s no tone of sarcasm or any punchline.
/r/seduction07/12/23 09:07 PM
1

When she doesn’t text me back, I’ve probably already forgotten that I’ve texted her because I’m already working on my next project, my businesses, my side hustle, or I’m talking to someone else. Either that, or I’m just relaxing and having me-time so having external stimulus is meaningless at the moment. Desperation sets in when you have nothing else going on except swiping on an app or if you aren’t secure in your own silence.
/r/seduction07/12/23 09:02 PM
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….. I’m sorry but I hope this is a joke. Seduction is about confidence and being not desperate but this is next level. Go touch grass dude.
/r/seduction07/12/23 08:53 PM
2

Your title is correct. If a girl is not interested, there is nothing that you can say in game that will magically make her interested (unless you are paying her.) Game is used to get the girls that are on-the-fence. Game is for the girls that sort-of like you but aren’t sure about you.
/r/seduction02/08/23 05:41 AM
1

My guess, Miami or LA. It’s a cesspool out there.
/r/seduction11/07/23 05:06 AM
1

I deflect the request. I don’t say yes or no. And if she mentions it again, I call it out in a playful way as if I’m putting my foot down. “Maybe later once I get to know you better. I only buy drinks for cool people.” If she doesn’t respect that, I leave. Be willing to actually leave. I have no problem buying drinks. I have a problem if I feel that someone is using me.
/r/seduction11/07/23 05:04 AM
1

“Be your best self.”
/r/seduction01/05/23 12:48 AM
0

Some people are seeing the situation in black-and-white. Let me provide my perspective because I’ve been in your shoes. I broke up a LTR and seduced a girl. The reason why I did this is because I believed in my heart and soul that I was a better match for her than her current boyfriend. Other people on the subReddit might tell you that you’re a piece of shit, however, I stand my ground because I believed that I would be better for this girl better than her current boyfriend would. Honestly, when…
/r/seduction23/04/23 06:53 AM
5

I honestly have never received any of these classic indicators in my whole time doing pick-up. Only one time have I had a girl twirl her hair between her fingers. Aside from this, most girls never showed me the classic “attraction” signs but things still worked perfectly fine.
/r/seduction16/04/23 08:45 PM
1

Too many steps. I just grab her hands regardless of whether we are on a walk, standing in line, or just talking and facing each other. Don’t make it weird and she won’t pull away. Don’t ask for permission. Don’t call out the fact that you’re going to hold her hand. Do it and that’s it. Regarding your comment about her “not liking you” and turning cheek, this is not accurate. Even if she likes you, her natural reaction may be to turn cheek. That’s fine. She is still staying with you and she is st…
/r/seduction15/04/23 07:46 PM
26

Political campaign? Bruh I’d be too turned off.
/r/seduction31/03/23 05:13 PM
9

It makes things way easier if you just have sex first.
/r/seduction22/10/22 06:37 PM
3

You need game to get a girl that already likes you? Game is meant to get girls that are on the fence.
/r/seduction20/07/20 10:01 PM
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You sound like you’re in your head way too much, even when you’re drunk. BE MORE PRESENT. Focus on what you can do in the moment, not what you would do in an ideal world. Roll with the punches. Rejection. Success. Make it all part of your daily life. And regarding alcohol, don’t use it as an escape to be more present. It’s a slippery slope.
/r/seduction03/02/20 05:01 PM
1

I don’t do that much nightgame. Maybe twice a month now but when I go, I try to get a few numbers but I’m really just trying to pull tbh. I prefer getting numbers and doing instant dates from daygame instead. The girl’s are just hotter in my opinion and vibe with me better. Nightgame just doesn’t have enough follow-through. I often won’t see girls after that night. Some nights, we both just agree to not get each other’s contact info.
/r/seduction25/01/20 01:08 AM
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I don’t like telling someone how great I am; It’s much more real if I show them. But every now and then, when I’m talking, of course I’m going to say something that displays my values. But the main point is to stop telling stories just for the sake of it. And before you get into the trap, don’t start pre-scripting or planning stories to tell.
/r/seduction24/12/19 02:03 AM
0

These are DHV that a real high value man does not need to fake: The way you walk around. The way you make eye contact with people. The way your vibe is. The way you look at her. The way shit bounces off you regardless of what happens. The way you are non-reactive to EVERYTHING. The way people look at you for help/leadership/guidance when small or big things happen. The way you make people turn heads to look at you. So to answer the title of this thread, yes you need to continue displaying high v…
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:54 AM
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I don’t understand the question. It sounds almost like you’re faking your high value. A true high value male doesn’t ask this question. His very normal daily life cannot help but accidentally show DHV on a daily basis. I can’t stop showing it even if I try hiding it. I don’t stress about this one but because if I’m being my normal self and continuing to be on my purpose, I am faking nothing. My DHV’s are just me being me.
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:35 AM
1

100% sounds like game, verbatim my strategy for getting girls addicted and chasing me. He is clearly interested. Whether that interest is purely sexual or relationship, it cannot be told because if a PUA does game for a relationship, he will play it very similar to game for just sex. The only way to tell is after 2-3 months of dating, if you try to become exclusive with him by bringing up the question, his reaction.
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:32 AM
3

They’re just trying to prevent you from turning into the girl’s gay texting buddy.
/r/seduction24/12/19 12:13 AM
2

Let’s be logical. Just imagine someone asking for another person’s phone number or giving someone a compliment in public. I am aware of what is going on on YouTube, the way the public thinks of PUA’s, and the documentary. Just think about this logically.
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:49 AM
2

That’s not good enough. You need to make yourself more relevant. Again, qualify and evaluate.
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:40 AM
1

Go to Facebook hangouts would be my guess. Idk, I’m a solo guy that goes out solo but if I were a girl, I’d probably try Facebook group hangouts. Maybe just approach groups of girls when you go out and just introduce yourself and say you’re new to town.
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:38 AM
1

I’m confused. The title and the content written are exact opposite statements.
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:36 AM
2

You can’t lose what you never had. Qualify the girl and evaluate them after you hook them. If they participate and even chase, you got them. If not, do more value offering and more hooking.
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:35 AM
2

Is it legal to say hello to strangers?
/r/seduction23/12/19 05:34 AM
1

Just do it like normal text game.
/r/seduction23/12/19 02:24 AM
2

Bombed two dates? If she’s dumb, she might go out with you again. Don’t apologize for anything. I’d give her some space for at least 3 weeks and try again. Don’t invite her to the same stuff you did in the last two dates. If you haven’t had her come over yet, might invite her back to your place. Obviously don’t say your place. Recall something you guys talked about and make the invitation plausible. Tease her on being a lightweight or innocent so you can do some shots or maybe mention something …
/r/seduction22/12/19 07:51 PM
1

Why wait?
/r/seduction22/12/19 07:37 PM
2

You’ve given us almost no information. Can’t really answer this.
/r/seduction22/12/19 07:36 PM
5

Wait so your whole friend group added her? Oh god...
/r/seduction22/12/19 04:02 PM
6

Yeah this post is just weird.
/r/seduction22/12/19 03:33 PM
5

It looks like a terrible joke and will be interpreted as a bad joke.
/r/seduction22/12/19 04:47 AM
1

I prefer to build a rotation of girls rather than do a bunch of random ONS.
/r/seduction22/12/19 12:58 AM
3

secks
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:49 PM
1

It depends on your tone. If I call a girl cute, I can say it in a sarcastic way or in a genuine way. Depending on my tone, the girl will know what I’m saying. So don’t get so tied down to what you’re saying, but rather, to how you’re saying it. The other thing I do is I give the girl a nickname. “Feisty face,” for instance, if she looks at me in a funny way.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:34 PM
2

I cuddle and tell her to big spoon me, then we switch positions and I big spoon her and we fool around a little. No more sex usually and I refrain from touching her boobs or her pussy. We kiss a few times but no making out either. We lay in bed for a couple of hours sometimes and I play 20 questions with her and we trade crazy sex stories. Then I take her out to brunch if I like her.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:31 PM
1

Idk about his programs but his YouTube content is legit so.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:19 PM
1

I hope that’s not all you said.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:06 PM
4

Your steps to getting out of this are way way way way way too extreme. Set realistic goals. Instead of saying you’ll talk to every single girl, set a goal to approach at least once in the days you go out.
/r/seduction21/12/19 04:35 PM
1

“..?” Or “hey what’s up?”
/r/seduction21/12/19 02:25 AM
1

It’s worth the money. It really is. Just buy it.
/r/seduction21/12/19 02:23 AM
4

Message again. Imagine how weak it would look if you messaged her tomorrow and pretended like nothing happened.
/r/seduction21/12/19 02:16 AM
1

Either low interest, bad initial approach, or your text game sucks. Could be a combination of those or could be one of those.
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:14 PM
14

Be ready to flirt at any moment.
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:29 AM
5

Superman eyes. Don’t break eye contact. Come in loud and wait for her to look at you before you continue talking. And smile too. Don’t forget to smile.
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:28 AM
1

It’s physically impossible to chase what is chasing you.
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:26 AM
3

I nightgame 100% sober. I drink water at the club. I usually do 3-5 glasses of water a night. If you’re a serious pick-up artist, then you’ll be fine.
/r/seduction19/12/19 03:24 AM
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People are misinterpreting this infield as serious pick-up lol. Penguinz0’s assessment of this single clip is a gross misrepresentation of Todd and PUAs I general. For him to use this clip to represent our whole community is stupid. I assume he has no understanding of pick-up or is just biased against pick-up. Todd uploaded this on purpose. Todd has never intended this clip to represent serious pick-up.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:30 PM
3

Yeah bros before hoes. Don’t.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:26 PM
3

I wouldn’t even text her in the morning. Pull back. Let her pursue you.
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:41 AM
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That’s got nothing to do with calibration. That’s just an exchange of text messages which doesn’t help you at all. Stop asking someone ‘how they are’ in text. The few messages following afterwards are worse than small talk. The mistake you’re making is you are starting the conversation and you are also telling them to provide the interesting bits of the conversation. This is fundamentally wrong and you’re screwing yourself doing this. You started the conversation. It is therefore your responsibi…
/r/seduction17/12/19 11:58 PM
1

Have normal conversation first. Figure out what your common interests are WITHOUT stalking her Instagram. For instance, if she has a picture of snowboarding, do NOT suggest going snowboarding. Instead talk to her and if she says she likes x show on Netflix, that’s what you can use to propose a date. And have cool Instagram stories.
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:56 PM
1

Exact same way as you would from a telephone number. Recall humor. Or saying “what trouble are you getting into today?”
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:26 PM
1

I do both. It depends on the girl’s situation. In general, I do indirect opens and I complement or say something man-to-woman within 30 seconds of opening. I will do direct opens when the girl is in a rush.
/r/seduction17/12/19 06:36 PM
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To add: normal people settle and stick in their not-so-ideal relationships because they’re afraid of the dating barren wasteland. But you guys are pick-up artists. I hate that term, but with that title it carries the ability to live your life with power and choice. You’re not helpless. You have choice because you’ve put in the legwork in studying and doing cold approach, female psychology, and in general, improving your life so that when you first started by pretending to be the alpha male, you …
/r/seduction17/12/19 06:34 PM
1

If she pulls back, you respond with silence too. Don’t chase. Be on your purpose and date other girls so she’s not a big part of your life so you aren’t actively waiting for her.
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:43 AM
2

You’re going to need to google translate that last sentence. What are you asking?
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:20 AM
1

Sure. Get her number and be friends with her. But don’t try to date her or anything if you’re not interested in her. You’ll waste your time.
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:20 AM
1

Idk if it’s an IOI but it seems like a good sign so perhaps it’ll help you. Assume attraction anyway.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:35 PM
2

I don’t pursue it. It’s a waste of my time.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:12 PM
1

She wants to feel all your feelings but only for a couple of nights in the month. Aside from that, she wants to forget about you for the majority of the month. Since you don’t understand psychology of men and women, let me explain. Women take a much longer time to fall in love compared to men. After 1-3 good dates, a man can fall in love. If you want to do this FWB thing, you must understand your male psychology. If you can’t control your psychology, drop her and let her get a new FWB. If you ca…
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:06 PM
1

Oh shit is this Sammi from the YouTube channel? I love your content.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:03 PM
1

Typically it’s a sign of a weak open from you. Focus on every little aspect of your open from your tonality, voice inflection, eye contact, your smile. Everything.
/r/seduction16/12/19 06:48 PM
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Great post. I agree. To elaborate. If everyone else is dressed up, you should put some effort to a costume too. If no one is dressed up, don’t do it. If this was a Halloween party, that costume would have been good. If it’s a toga party, come in a toga too. If it’s a Christmas ugly sweater party, come in an ugly sweater. If it’s a pajama party, come in pajamas. So the moral of the story is: know the venue. Go on their website or on Facebook to look at their schedule and what the theme of the nig…
/r/seduction16/12/19 06:44 PM
5

Don’t make any apologies for your desire as a man.
/r/seduction16/12/19 09:07 AM
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Todd did it on purpose lol. He knew this was socially uncalibrated but he kept going because he was recording infield.
/r/seduction16/12/19 09:04 AM
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The mods leave a comment explaining why the post is deleted and the rules to be subreddit are posted too.
/r/seduction16/12/19 02:58 AM
2

Sounds normal to me. I wouldn’t necessarily take her caking you baby as flirting. The one big important missing detail is: you watched her work. Did she call the other people baby?
/r/seduction16/12/19 02:57 AM
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In that case, I say this: I’d rather feel rejection than feel regret. I say you give it one more push and you seduce her with your vibe, and if she is still not pursuing you afterwards, drop it. Also, evaluate your text game. That may also cause someone to lose interest.
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:31 PM
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Try getting them onto a 10 minute phone call first. It might change your flake rate.
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:27 PM
1

If your gut tells you no, follow it. I agree with your gut feeling. You know her better than us. Besides, if you’re not 100% into it, it’ll show.
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:26 PM
1

Hey. Best wishes and keep working on that inner game. It’s been a mindfuck for me but I’m going to keep working on it too.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:35 PM
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Even the less attractive girls that rarely get on the app have hundreds of matches. It’s very skewed to the female side. And that’s fine. Gotta learn to play the game instead of hating the game. Girls have a natural abundance mindset. Us guys are trying to develop this. It’s fucking hard to have true abundance, but goddammit we can keep trying to develop it.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:33 PM
2

Thanks. I’ve been doing indirect group approaches in nightgame and it’s been pretty good. Sometimes I get massive shit tests since I drink water and I go to the club solo but it’s cool. I can pass the shit tests.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:31 PM
1

Deeper voice. Talk slower.
/r/seduction15/12/19 08:09 AM
1

Should be the same or slightly slower unless they just aren’t active on insta at all. They get phone notifications either way.
/r/seduction15/12/19 07:41 AM
3

Nobody is higher value than you. Remember that.
/r/seduction15/12/19 06:40 AM
2

Next time just say you’re down for whatever. I like to even say: “listen, I’ll be me and you be you. We’ll just see where the chips fall.” Charming. Vague. You can fit any role.
/r/seduction15/12/19 06:16 AM
3

I wonder. What was the content of the text and the content of your conversation? What I’m looking for are you saying things too overly sexual or too relationship-y. That can cause ghosting.
/r/seduction15/12/19 06:15 AM
1

Thanks for this information. It helps a lot.
/r/seduction14/12/19 10:33 PM
1

You’re clearly pushing too hard and not doing enough to get her to chase. Evaluate her. Qualify her.
/r/seduction14/12/19 10:32 PM
1

I don’t understand... daygame and nightgame exist. There are an infinite amount of girls in this world to approach and you want to catfish DUDES?
/r/seduction14/12/19 10:30 PM
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No, that’s only for the close. When you close, you’re asking for a girl to spend hours of her life with you in a potentially dangerous situation where she’s a woman and you’re a man. The rest of texting won’t take that long. You’ll gain the experience through talking to more girls. Sounds like you’re doing good right now though.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:58 PM
5

Sounds like she’s hinting at being exclusive. I wouldn’t change anything that you are currently doing. And from there, it depends on how you feel about her. She might even bring an ultimatum to you at some point. Be prepared to respond to that.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:53 PM
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That’s very very very very common. You’re asking a girl to commit hours of her life. She’s going to weight the pros and cons for whether it’s worth it to go out with you.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:52 PM
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The open is designed for only one thing: to get her attention for the next 10 seconds. Keep going for another 30 seconds. It’ll not only improve your game by forcing you to keep talking, it’ll also turn around many of your sets to make them good.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:28 PM
2

Could mean too many things. Maybe you’re bragging about it too much. Maybe she wants to be exclusive. Maybe she’s shit testing you. Needs more context.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:26 PM
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Depends on the girl. If she’s a bum, then long wait times could mean low interest. If you’re going for girls with goals in life, which high value males should be, wait time does not correlate with interest. The content of the text and her willingness to see you will correlate with interest level.
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:24 PM
1

The format I use is from ToddVDating’s System. Everyone follows a similar format with different terms. Each coach/PUA will use different but similar formats. Here is Todd’s OPENClose format. Open: this serves to get the girl’s attention for the next 10 seconds. Nothing fancy. Just open. Premise: this should predominate the conversation. Man-to-woman communication from physicality, logistical escalation, escalating topics of conversation to conversation topics that lead to sex, and verbal game in…
/r/seduction14/12/19 05:41 AM
2

Welcome to night game. I assume you’re a daygamer. I am too. First, if it’s too loud, you don’t need to open the group. Just open the target. If things go well, you will have to figure out the girl’s logistics. Maybe the girl is the designated driver and needs to drive everyone home or maybe the girl is with her coworkers and her boss is in that group. In that case, figure out her logistics later but generate attraction first. Second, group sets are a MUST. No one goes to clubs alone except for …
/r/seduction14/12/19 02:36 AM
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He didn’t close and his set was borderline psychopath behavior, however, what was beautiful about the set is he treated rejections as shit tests. Those weren’t actually shit tests since the girls didn’t want him at all, but he interpreted them as shit tests and he had clever responses. Again, what he did was uncalibrated and borderline psychopath behavior, but in the standpoint of shit tests, it was still valuable content.
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:17 PM
1

I’m going to assume he stuck in on purpose because he was recording infield.
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:16 PM
0

Todd is actually a fucking genius. I would have ejected out of this set immediately. He pushed way too hard but this was a great learning experience to watch anyway.
/r/seduction13/12/19 07:28 PM
10

Two steps forward, one step backward escalation. The first move you make should not result in you trying to take off her shirt. Take things slowly and escalate slowly. Afterwards, pull back and relax and talk. Then a few minutes, escalate again. Repeat.
/r/seduction13/12/19 07:23 PM
3

Move it into a date.
/r/seduction13/12/19 07:22 PM
2

Imagine what a fuckboy would say. That’s what I’m saying. More premise. More physicality. Calibrate to the girl. Only use this if necessary. A lot of it is non-verbals, the way you move and the way you look at her. I do more swaying side by side, if that makes sense lmao. I’m much less reactive and when I talk, it’s almost like I’m feeling my own energy. I do head tilts and am closer in general with my proximity. “Shit this must be love at first sight.” “So when are you taking me out?” “So what’…
/r/seduction13/12/19 07:21 PM
4

“I will think about it” is no.
/r/seduction13/12/19 04:31 PM
3

I’m 25 so I’m your exact demographic for this post. I want to present a different point of view. We are PUA’s. We should be leading with our game, not our money. I actually go out of my way to hide my resume from girls. If they find out everything about me, they will want me as a provider. I game with a fuckboy frame on purpose sometimes to avoid this. So to directly answer your question, money can help but it helps in the wrong ways sometimes. Money can help you dress better and go to better ve…
/r/seduction13/12/19 02:49 AM
1

I study exclusively ToddV and I’m 25. Todd’s whole System has worked for me for ages between 18-35. My advice? Don’t abandon game. Definitely stop interviewing people. When you go in, you must BRING the party. Don’t ask the girl questions like that because you’re forcing her to bring the interesting stuff into the conversation. You’re forcing the girl to bring the party when you are the one who started the conversation. What does Todd say about this? Stop being a hollow shell. Pick-up techniques…
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:48 PM
1

Good morning texts? Bro you need to cut that shit out. It’s no wonder she’s avoiding you. She’s smothered by you. You’re putting nothing except try-hard and plutonic energy into your interactions and you’re talking about only school. This does nothing except kill attraction. She’s hoping you get the hint that she doesn’t like you because she won’t outright say it unless you just keep smothering her to the point where she feels like she has no choice but to say it. What should you be doing? Givin…
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:39 PM
2

Great FR. I do indirect approaches for this exact reason. People are MUCH MORE receptive to indirect approach.
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:50 PM
1

I’ve studied game almost exclusively under ToddV. This wasn’t a full structured approach using Todd’s System, but it is still followed a slight structure.
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:46 PM
1

You don’t prepare for it. The act of preparing for it is already a problem because your mindset is wrong. And to add: I also don’t even consider shit tests as tests. I enjoy being shit tested. If you prepare for rejection, you’re coming into the set with approach pessimism.
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:17 AM
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Are you currently on medication for your bipolar? If not, I’d consider going to a physician. They can help manage it with medications. Obviously that will only be step number one as you will still have to focus on stabilizing your mood, but medication will help.
/r/seduction12/12/19 05:04 AM
1

Standard cold approach format. It works for a reason so just use it.
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:59 AM
1

This is the 4th time I’ve seen this posted lol. Stop spamming.
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:56 AM
0

Way less than 300. Probably did less than 100 tbh. I don’t even daygame daily. I go like 2 times weekly and do 1 nightgame session. At most I’ll do 5 approaches a week and I usually have at least 2 dates weekly. OP’s problem is either his approach was not solid enough or his textgame and follow-through is weak. If both of those components are in, there’s no reason for why he can’t get more dates.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:36 AM
1

It’s not your job to protect anyone. I know why you took this job, but you’re not obligated or owe anyone.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:25 AM
1

Ask for the number close before the end of the conversation. That’s something I also had to learn the hard way. Don’t end with the number close.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:19 AM
1

Please do. 25 divided by 300 is 8%. You have an 8% chance that when you approach, you’ll get a date. These numbers are insane. I don’t want to come off as an asshole but there are people with 0 game that will have an 8% chance. Message me when you post it. I will personally break it down.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:51 PM
1

Your phone. Turn on the voice record option. Put it in your pocket. BOOM. Go ALONE. Don’t make pick-up some sort of a show. It’s just another approach for you. I hate when my friends find out I’m a PUA and want to watch me in field as if it were some sort of TV show.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:42 PM
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300 approaches for 25 dates is insanity. I’m an intermediate gamer at best. There’s no way in hell 300 days for 25 dates is considered good. That’s insanely shotgun.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:41 PM
0

Game is not supposed to be a shotgun method. You’re doing something so terribly wrong. Post your infield. I want to break down your interaction. What type of structure are you following? I always do a structured approach using ToddV’s System: Open, premise, evaluate, narrative, close. And if I get on the phone with the girl, I’ll also use the above ^ structure in call to get the girl on a date. Your biggest problem is your initial cold approach is so weak and uncompelling no girl wants to actual…
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:33 PM
2

Well ofc because normal people’s advice is just “be yourself.” That’s not good or productive advice.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:27 PM
1

So he’s a supervisor. Yeah, in general, managers will NOT hang out with subordinates. I am a manager too. I was explicitly taught by my superiors to NOT hang out with my employees. Sorry idk what to tell you then. It’s pretty damn hard to learn seduction. Me telling you what to do for your first seduction attempt is just a bad idea since you aren’t practiced. You’ll mess up and it could ruin you work.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:26 PM
6

1 approach. Because the result I wanted was to stop being a pussy and approach. And each time I do an approach, I gain more knowledge and I am so fucking proud of myself. I analyze my approaches so each and every single one approach meets my results. The main point is if you’re a beginner, don’t set your bar for success to fuck a 10. You’ll just feel failure failure failure. Set your bar lower and continue to raise the bar each time. Stop shooting for the moon immediately. You’ll get there. If y…
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:23 PM
1

Invite him out for drinks and, “make it happen,” on accident. Go somewhere where you can sit beside him instead of across him. Get touchy-feely with him. Remember the essence of seduction is to not be straightforward and for stuff to “just happen.”
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:19 PM
2

Here is a set I did. I voice recorded my interaction when I picked up a girl who was working at the mall. I have changed/edited the lines so it fits your situation. Obviously don’t memorize this. Don’t copy me. But learn from my set: Hello! -she responds with her customer service hello- “That was the... most customer service-y hello I’ve ever heard. Today has been a very... different day for me. I’m sorry what am I even talking about... I always hit this place up for free samples and you’re alwa…
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:10 PM
2

That first paragraph was not necessary to share. Just do the standard cold approach and do 2 openers. Break past the customer service barrier to make it personal. Aside from that, everything else should be standard.
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:46 PM
1

Thanks! I love this.
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:58 PM
9

This thread read almost like a math riddle. I don’t see what the problem is with telling someone happy birthday. It’s not that scientific. Just send it.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:40 AM
1

She sounds way more than just interested if she went out of her way to add you on insta. That’s pretty big.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:34 AM
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I don’t. If the girl is a hot solid 10 but she says some retarted shit or something that completely turns me off, I leave. I will only sleep with someone I am emotionally interested in. I genuinely enjoy the dates, the sex, eating food with them, watching movies, and laying in bed with them. I love having brunch with them the next morning. One of my favorite lines to say is: “I kinda want to have breakfast with you.” Obviously this line is subtly sexual since I saying it to imply that we are goi…
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:27 AM
0

He’s hunting for choosing signals. That’s pretty advanced stuff.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:24 AM
3

Tinder is pretty good. Don’t blame the app for not getting results. Look at what you can do to fix your own problems instead of pushing blame elsewhere. Without a mindset adjustment, you’ll get nowhere.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:22 AM
5

This is uncalibrated advice. I will Quadra-text a girl. It doesn’t matter. I’ll still get her out with me. What matters is the frame at which the messages are coming from and your history with the girl.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:55 AM
2

I’d say that’s great. She’s putting in effort which means she cares to disagree with you. Keep giving her shit and keep bantering with her.
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:51 AM
3

There are 0 pick-up coaches that will tell you to initiate every text. When you get her number, you will probably need to initiate the texts. Before you get her on a date, you will probably need to initiate those texts too. Before you kiss her, you will probably need to initiate the first kiss, unless the girl is really into you and does it first. And sex as well. But there needs to be a back-and-forth dynamic to everything. Most coaches will even say that girl’s should be initiating most of the…
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:25 AM
4

Pull back from initiating your Snapchat. Disappear for a whole 2 days. She will initiate with you. You’re chasing her so hard. It’s impossible for a girl to chase you if you’re chasing her. Hang back. Let her realize you vanished. And then the next time she hits you up, get her on the phone for 15 mins, make her laugh on the phone, then ask for the date.
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:10 AM
5

You’re already coming off as too clingy. How often are you opening conversations vs how often is she?
/r/seduction11/12/19 03:51 AM
3

Agreed. Disagree with her or even push her away verbally when she says something you disagree with. Give her shit back. You’re not just trying to get into her pants. You want her also having the feeling like she’s chasing you.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:50 PM
6

I’ll say $25 just to give you a figure. I usually do dates at my couch so ~$22-$25 for take-out dinner for 2 and the bottle of wine is ~$11. I usually cum on her face but I guess the $25 is the same price.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:39 PM
3

Todd V talked about this. He said if your mind goes blank, just own it. “Hold on, I need to get my brain to turn on. I just got here.”
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:37 PM
2

My personal policy: I do NOT approach a couple. If it’s a grandma and a girl, I approach. If it’s a group of 5 girls, I approach. If it’s a girl with her mom and dad, I approach. But I refuse to approach couples.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:26 PM
1

Uhh that sounds fine but if she never texts you, say hi to her next time. Tbh if she doesn’t text you, I wouldn’t even mention the note. Just pretend the note never happened.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:24 PM
6

Wrong subreddit. Most of us here are men so we aren’t going to pay other men to ejaculate on our feet.
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:22 PM
2

When I started, I did 10 approaches and I got my first kiss. I didn’t know how to escalate into sex so it didn’t happen. Every single encounter and every single approach should be analyzed in order to come up with a hypothesis to grow.Structured game can be scientific and we can test our hypotheses. Game is so fucking hard. It’s walking a tightrope and tripping once means you probably need to find a new tightrope. It’s so fucking hilariously hard, but I fucking love game. I’m so fascinated by ga…
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:21 PM
1

Don’t open with a close. You’re forcing the girl to just not respond. You’re asking for everything without providing her anything. Nothing funny. Nothing interesting. Just asking her to spend hours or her life in a potentially dangerous situation with a random guy she has never met. Can someone make this part of the subreddit’s banner or something lol.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:50 PM
2

Damn, your real social dynamics are showing.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:28 PM
2

I actually really enjoyed the video. I couldn’t stop laughing lol.
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:42 AM
1

You should NOT be looking into a relationship. You just started. You need some dating experience.
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:08 AM
3

Based on the information you provided: She’s still interested but the fire is dying. There’s only one way to keep the fire burning. Do nothing -fire dies. If you do too much -fire gets smothered. You need to do the right amount and only then will the fire keep burning. The fire is an analogy for her level of attraction to you. Ask her out. Then make the conversation man-to-woman, then kiss her. It’s so hard to say what to do on the date, but I hope that generally suffices. Man-to-women communica…
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:06 AM
0

You really should verify your sources, especially if you’re going to use it to dictate several years of your life’s path on the answer.
/r/seduction10/12/19 04:01 AM
11

Approach now. There is no reason to delay. You need practice. Girls have been sleeping with guys since their day’s in high school. And they expect the guys they are with to be experienced at this point. So if you behave like an alpha. You walk and talk like an alpha. But then you have no bedroom experience, it’ll just turn them off. You really need to start immediately.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:47 AM
1

This is far easier than a standard cold approach in my opinion. It’s plausible to speak with her so you better just go do it.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:43 AM
4

I’ve approached less than 10 women before I got anywhere. You’re doing something insanely wrong if you think you need to approach over 1000 women to get anywhere.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:41 AM
8

She’s done way way way more than should be necessary to ask her out. And if she doesn’t text you back but she’s on her phone that much, it means your text game sucks.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:38 AM
4

What in the fuck? Did he mean to say “pleasure?”
/r/seduction10/12/19 02:37 AM
1

No way of answering this one. You’ll have to invite her out and go see.
/r/seduction10/12/19 01:51 AM
2

I nightgame sober. I’m very calculated so I generally will stay sober and only have 0-1 drinks until I get the girl home. Then I’ll take shots and drink wine or whatever.
/r/seduction10/12/19 01:49 AM
1

We all could tell you to not do it, but you’ll probably still try. So if you’re going to try, just don’t drop too much for her. Also you need to stop making assumptions about her attraction level. Men often try to project their own attraction level onto women. In general, you want to underestimate her attraction level for you. It’ll help you game her better. This is a concept straight out of Corey Wayne’s 3% man book. You always want to assume attraction because it will help you make the right m…
/r/seduction10/12/19 01:49 AM
2

I remember responding to this question a week ago. It doesn’t matter. If the girl was that shallow, then you shouldn’t be with her anyway.
/r/seduction10/12/19 01:46 AM
3

Either you’re not catching subtle IOI’s or you’re having too much expectation. In what universe should girls be making the first move anyway? Just go. Do it. Be a man. She will appreciate you for trying.
/r/seduction09/12/19 10:37 PM
6

On average, most men in the history of humanity have had sex 0 times and they die afterwards. Don’t be so hard on yourself.
/r/seduction09/12/19 10:35 PM
2

Flirt some, hold her hand for a little bit, and kiss her. If she rejects the kiss, don’t take it personally and try again 10 minutes later. (Seriously, if she rejects the kiss, you need to try again.)
/r/seduction09/12/19 10:34 PM
3

Techniques work. And we should be training them. But it goes full circle. At some point, the techniques should become second nature. We aren’t supposed to do techniques to specifically try pushing a girl’s buttons. We are doing techniques to amuse ourselves and to have more fun with he interaction.
/r/seduction09/12/19 10:31 PM
26

The 4th point is huge. In the last 2 months of doing seduction, this was my biggest awakening moment that made my game evolve: If you do a pick-up technique to try to make something work, you will fail. If you do a pick-up technique because you don’t care and you’re having fun, it will be received much better. Inner game is something I started with. I understood this concept. And then somewhere down the road of seduction, I met the first girl I considered a 10 and then I got so tied in technical…
/r/seduction09/12/19 09:45 PM
5

This is the standard cold approach format. It’s been field tested millions of times.
/r/seduction09/12/19 09:41 PM
3

I’ve triple texted before lol. It depends on the context.
/r/seduction09/12/19 07:33 PM
8

The cameltoe was probably an accident. The rest was probably on purpose.
/r/seduction09/12/19 07:32 PM
2

Play 20 questions after fucking. There are plenty of girls that wanted to peg me or wanted to try some crazy shit on me.
/r/seduction09/12/19 07:31 PM
4

Most likely problem: verbal game.
/r/seduction09/12/19 04:08 PM
1

This was just Saturday. You didn’t even really get ghosted. Stop being so fast. It’s Sunday night.
/r/seduction09/12/19 08:52 AM
2

LOL. Nope.
/r/seduction09/12/19 06:17 AM
1

No just be normal.
/r/seduction09/12/19 03:13 AM
1

Recommend “Don of Desire” from YouTube to your boyfriend. It’ll help with his dirty talking.
/r/seduction09/12/19 02:14 AM
2

Write down 10 reasons why you would be a good deal for someone else. (Non physical) Now write down 5 things you MUST have in a guy. (Non physical) Example: confidence, ambitions. And now when you interact with someone, you should SCREEN them for these traits that you want. They don’t have their life together? They’re not confident? They’re an asshole? They’re a liar? NEXT. And if you ever doubt yourself, remember the 10 reasons why you are a good deal.
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:31 AM
3

You’re good. The only thing you need is approaches and social skill practice. Everything else is here already.
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:28 AM
2

I cannot relate to this problem but if you make it sound like not a big deal, it won’t be. I just tell them that I’m in town for the next 2 weeks or something and they’re cool. I guess you can tell them you’re transitioning to an apartment later.
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:25 AM
1

Try to smile when you make eye contact.
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:14 PM
1

Yeah. Experiment and have fun. Make sure to use a condom.
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:12 PM
2

You have one distinct advantage: I find that when I take Adderall, I have the most intense eye contact ever. In game, we call this level of eye contact “Superman” eyes. But I like to call it “Adderall eyes.” Remember this: just because you are both looking into each other’s eyes does NOT mean you’re doing eye contact. There are different levels of eye contact and if you can take advantage of your Adderall, you can actually get very very very intense eye contact. Also, being actively aloof has it…
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:11 PM
2

Depends on pledge season. Pledge season is over. But they will take any students. You might have to wait until next spring but ask them if they’ll let you in anyway. In the mean-time, party with them when you can. Fraternities won’t let you into their inner circle if you’re not a brother, but if they’re going to a public place, have them invite you. This is social circle and cold approach game. It’s hard but you need to go in strong and start by cold approaching the brothers and portraying yours…
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:06 PM
2

When I go back home, I’ll pull girls when my parents are both at work. If both your parents don’t work, you’ll have to bring the girls to your room with a parent there. I’ve done it before and my tiger-mom is actually okay with it. I just have to screen the girls really hard and make sure they’re in college/have goals in life. Pick girls who have the blueprint that your parents will be okay with. For instance, the classic white girl will be a no-go for me since my asian mom only wants to see me …
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:03 PM
1

I’d highly encourage you to get into Greek life. I’m an asian that lives in Texas and joining a fraternity filled with white people is pretty cool. I’m cocky as fuck. As I’m talking to some of these girls, I’ll ask them “so what is it about asian men that you like so much?” Even when I know they’ve never considered an asian before. Or I even go with the asian fuckboy frame and tell them to “sample the exotic dick.” Anyway have fun with it. I’m graduated now. Pick-up is much harder after you get …
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:00 PM
1

Best of luck. Us young professionals who are still single have this struggle, especially if we live in the suburbs lol. My Facebook feed is filled with all my old friends getting married. I’m not ready for that life, but the suburbs are really damn hard to date in if you are doing cold approach. Feel free to message me in the future if you want to talk more about this.
/r/seduction08/12/19 08:59 PM
2

We all gotta start somewhere. I also forgot to mention: drive a little farther and just go to the grocery markets NEAR YOUR OLD CAMPUS. (All the college girls are shopping there)
/r/seduction08/12/19 08:41 PM
2

I highly would encourage you to daygame throughout the week even though your volume is lower. It’ll help adjust your mindset so you don’t just put down game so fast. You MUST keep going or you will get rusty. And as for nightgame, it’s a lot more similar to daygame than you think. I nightgame solo and sober. Now obviously girls give me a lot of shit about this so you could just buy 1 drink and sip on it slowly through the night if you want. Nightgame is about handling group sets and also about N…
/r/seduction08/12/19 07:07 PM
4

I am 25 years old. Recently graduated. Day gaming in the suburbs is a real struggle. The hot girls for some reason like to just stay home and never go out until nightgame or through dating apps. Either you need to try daygaming at a local college/university or you need to incorporate nightgame and dating apps to your mix. I have the same experience as you. The mall is filled with underaged and older women and no girls that are our age. Same with supermarkets.
/r/seduction08/12/19 06:42 PM
3

Why would you open a girl you aren’t attracted to?
/r/seduction08/12/19 06:40 PM
31

It helps if that’s one of your tinder pictures.
/r/seduction08/12/19 06:20 AM
2

You need to do you. Stop starring at other people because if you do, you will be unhappy 100% of the time. There is always someone richer than you. Buffer than you. Stronger than you. Better looking than you. Gets more girls than you. Etc etc. So stop starring at others. You will never be first place so stop.
/r/seduction08/12/19 06:18 AM
2

Where do you want to go? I wish I could game in Houston. There are so many more people there.
/r/seduction08/12/19 04:30 AM
1

You way overthought this. If they don’t want you there, they’ll make it painfully obvious.
/r/seduction08/12/19 04:03 AM
1

Initiate 1-2 times a week. Make them interesting life updates.
/r/seduction08/12/19 04:01 AM
3

Reading “Deep Ellum” made me miss home. As much as I fucking hate Dallas, I miss Austin and my home town of Houston. I can’t wait to get back home next year.
/r/seduction08/12/19 04:00 AM
3

That’s not even considered a shit test and the “what’s up” type of text vibe you have is just flat. It’s not that she’s not interested. If she’s interested, do you expect her to carry the conversation? Let’s be real, that’s not going to happen. It’s that it’s your responsibility to carry the conversation.
/r/seduction08/12/19 01:14 AM
1

Take your time. Go slower than you think. Unhook her bra, but don’t immediately go for her boobs. Seduction: two steps forward, one step back. Leave the girl wanting more, then pull back. Make her think “why didn’t he?”
/r/seduction07/12/19 11:12 PM
12

His vibe. How he makes people feel. That’s it. I love your question because it gets to the whole root of seduction. Thank you for posting this. Girls don’t actually analyze the interaction. They simply feel the vibe. That’s how you can fuck, that’s how you can get into the friendzone, and that’s also how you can brute force seduce a girl. The vibe is the most important part. When a girl texts you and says “we should just be friends. I don’t feel that spark.” It’s the vibe. When a girl wants to b…
/r/seduction07/12/19 11:09 PM
2

Sounds drunk. Just ignore it and wait a couple days and hit her up.
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:34 PM
1

She sees you as a friend. She’s letting you down easy. Flirt more next time.
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:33 PM
1

I will usually flirt with the girl on the spot so she knows that it’s on. Just 1-3 intentful lines can be good. So when I text, it’s very slightly flirty but I really ramp it up during the actual date.
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:31 PM
2

Forget about the job and pick-up techniques. What you need is a huge overhaul for your mindset. Without that mindset, you will still fail.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:01 PM
1

Go see a therapist. They can help you. You have too many inner game problems to address. This subreddit will not be able to help.
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:59 PM
17

Push pulls.
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:58 PM
1

Sounds okay to me. I read this whole conversation with the sound of loud music and screaming into each other’s ears. Too much energy in this conversation.
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:57 PM
4

Just be patient. You waited 2 hours wtf. Even a girl with high interest sometimes takes 5 hours to respond to me lol.
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:55 PM
3

The best you can do is get a number close. So get the number close AS EARY AS POSSIBLE and stay in set to make the number solid. Don’t wait until the end to number close or you will get cockblocked.
/r/seduction07/12/19 06:45 PM
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Sounds like you’re going to turn into one of those hover-chodes that stands in the corner and does nothing. Let me offer you some assignments. Homework assignment#1: approach another dude and talk with him. Homework assignment #2: approach a group of guys and girls and just befriend them. Don’t game them. Don’t get their number. Just join them and hang out. Best of luck.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:46 AM
2

We do this on a daily basis. It’s the standard structured cold approach into an instant date.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:13 AM
1

Corey Wayne’s audiobook is 7 hours. It’s not that hard and I only personally listened to it once since he recommends BEGINNERS to read it 10-15 times. If you’re not a beginner, just listen to it once.
/r/seduction07/12/19 06:55 AM
1

I second this.
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:53 AM
1

Everything you typed sounds fine. What about what you said/did? That’s probably why she was creeped out.
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:53 AM
2

Online dating doesn’t work for me either. I just cold approach. I’m sitting on the toilet right now but after I flush, I’m going out to nightgame. Also, you’re fucking 5’7”. Cut that decimal bullshit out lmao.
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:51 AM
6

I’m a big proponent of visualization for learning skills in general. I think this has its place in learning as long as you aren’t using it to replace your actual approaches. The best place visualization shines in is post-encounter. It can help you realize missed opportunities and mistakes. This will really help you grow.
/r/seduction07/12/19 01:56 AM
2

Just ask her to “hang out.” Then from there, seduce her. Make it seem like everything “just happened” and the “vibe was just right.”
/r/seduction07/12/19 01:55 AM
2

A student of ToddV. This is good advice, except for that last part. Persistence can pay off. I’ll add the girl to my “fun/interesting life update” subscription list. Cuz why not?
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:19 AM
1

When you talk, tease/flirt and give her shit. Talkative girls will talk themselves into bed if you let them.
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:17 AM
1

Your question is inherently situationally wrong. I don’t neg on the open unless the girl is initially not receptive to 2 of my opening attempts. So unless you’re opening a very difficult set such as a hot girl who just rejected 5 other guys, I don’t ever neg early in the convo. Regarding attraction building, I usually neg the girl to get her chasing. This will be 10 minutes into the convo usually or after she’s participating in my man-to-woman talk: “you’re such a troublemaker. What are we going…
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:15 AM
1

Call her. Or just get her in person.
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:11 AM
1

“Yeah Monday is cool with me.”
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:10 AM
2

I’ve “friendzoned” a girl before to have sex with her. That’s called a disqualifier. It’s moreso advanced game but since you used it, you better be ready to brute force seduce her. Example of a disqualifier. I’m on top of a girl, I pin her down and then I kiss her neck and ear. Then I whisper: “we’re not going to make the sex happen tonight.” Then I bite her neck. Disqualifiers help you make escalations without it being so needy/obvious.
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:08 AM
1

You’re going to need to put in the legwork. Most people who try pick up fail. If you aren’t willing to do your homework and need to rely on a wingman, you’ll be part of that statistic that fails.
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:06 AM
4

Text once a week.
/r/seduction06/12/19 10:37 PM
1

Be normal. “Hey I’m _____. What you up to today?”
/r/seduction06/12/19 10:36 PM
1

That’s such a missed opportunity.
/r/seduction06/12/19 10:36 PM
1

Terrible. Stop closing the conversation when you just opened it. She doesn’t know you and you’re forcing her to make a decision about you within the exact same moment you’re meeting her. You’re on the bus with her. You probably have like 10+ minutes with her. You plan on closing the conversation in 30 seconds and sitting next to her for 9.5 minutes?
/r/seduction06/12/19 10:05 PM
2

In general, you need to learn to be a social person. Make eye contact with people in public. Smile. Say good morning or hello. When you’re with her, you don’t have to ask for her number immediately. Just have a couple normal interactions. She’s not going to magically vanish, probably.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:21 PM
1

As a beginner? Hell no don’t do it lol. As an advanced to help supplement your game? By all means. Go purchase a complete game course like System by Todd.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:17 PM
0

Prank Invasion 2.0 Ask them to play a quick game for a quick head session. Make sure to wear a lot of wrist bands. /s
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:16 PM
1

I have never had a girl ever say that to me. This is some r/nicegirls shit lol. You’re being trolled.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:05 PM
2

It’s an incomplete game model but it has some positives that you can use when you’re in an more intimate venue.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:04 PM
1

It doesn’t matter. You’re you.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:03 PM
35

A concept out of Corey Wayne’s 3% man book. Yeah he elaborated on this quite well and even talks about giving the girl freedom while loving her.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:20 PM
3

If you don’t want it, then just quit. Don’t do something that you don’t want to do.
/r/seduction06/12/19 10:00 AM
1

If a girl is saying this to you, it’s probably your seduction and approach skills. Thankfully this is actionable and you can fix this. I assume you’re doing direct approach and they are therefore rejecting you too early. Try indirect approach and maybe it’ll help.
/r/seduction06/12/19 09:59 AM
6

This is not seduction. This is basic human communication. You both made eye contact. Don’t overthink things.
/r/seduction06/12/19 07:10 AM
1

I wouldn’t think anything of it.
/r/seduction06/12/19 07:09 AM
1

I know you’re a student but you really need to stop talking about boring school stuff. I send interesting/funny life updates. I’m genuinely entertained by what I send and that should resonate with the recipients of your texts too.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:38 AM
16

7 times a day is.... a lot. How do you manage to do that even?
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:37 AM
2

Maybe I’m a narcissist but I’ll even play it up and do a little something extra like a little extra physicality if I notice people explicitly watching/listening.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:37 AM
1

She didn’t show anything because she doesn’t even know you existed. This does not even qualify as an interaction. You should have approached.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:03 AM
7

This question is inherently coming from the worst frame.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:02 AM
1

If she’s still there despite me physically escalating and sexually talking, she likes me. I don’t even look for IOI’s anymore. I just operate with the assumption that she likes me until she gives me a rejection or leaves.
/r/seduction06/12/19 06:01 AM
3

This is a concept that is not talked about much on this sub. And this concept gets to the essence of seduction. Your escalations were too overt. Two steps forward, one step back. Combating LMR is not supposed to be done in the bedroom, but if you need to combat LMR in the bedroom, do a mini-freezeout if you feel that you are going to cross the point of no return but not have sex or you should have been seducing her slowly and pulling back every now and then. Your first physical escalation should…
/r/seduction05/12/19 10:13 PM
8

What were you trying to get out of this post?
/r/seduction05/12/19 10:08 PM
1

Do what is working. And let the girl be the one who tries to define the relationship.
/r/seduction05/12/19 08:06 PM
3

Break out your box. And do it fucking fast. By the time I stopped being complacent, I was already graduated out of college. It’s much harder approaching girls in the market than it is approaching on campus. Take advantage of the fact that you still have access to everything on campus because it makes approaches so much more organic. I was happy with being single and alone. I found comfort in being alone. I did whatever I wanted. But then when I first fucked a girl and got attached to her and LOS…
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:53 PM
1

I only do this with girls who already have boyfriends or if the girl is a lesbian. It is really hard to do this with a single girl who is interested in you. The difference is their interest level. First, it’s too much damn work to make it plutonic and second, there’s sometimes no reward, especially if the girl is interested in you. You expect her to introduce you to her friends? It’s hard. I would probably not pursue it since it’s annoying and is much less likely to work.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:50 PM
2

Maybe she just doesn’t want normal conversation with you at all. Just keep fucking. You’re FWB so that’s the nature of your relationship. The mean banter makes the sex better for her probably.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:46 PM
6

Everyone has their own style. I’m a structured game person and I don’t necessarily subscribe to what naturals say, but, we all can learn things from each other still.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:44 PM
1

I don’t necessarily favor “routines” but I read what you said about that and it makes sense. I do use canned lines, so I do understand how they can function as a security cushion. The part I got lost in was around the 3 levels. After that, you go into 4 levels of competency. It just starts getting too complicated. You made the 3 levels relevant. But I fail to understand what relevance the 4 levels of competency have. Perhaps if the post does not need those 4 levels of competency, it would do it …
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:40 PM
3

It started off very strong but then it got disorganized and somewhere, I got completely lost.
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:17 PM
3

She didn’t even reject you. Of course go again.
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:13 PM
1

Do a general structured cold approach.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:12 AM
4

If waiting to respond to a text message was good game, then everyone in the world would have good game. Either you should actually be busy because you’re in your purpose or just pick up and answer lol. It doesn’t even matter.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:40 AM
1

Needs more context. What escalations did you do exactly aside from the kiss?
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:15 AM
1

Your problem is you’re too obvious when you show interest. What you need to understand is showing interest is a crutch and should not work. In reality, all you really need is to establish a man-to-woman vibe. Do what everyone else on this thread recommended. Overtly complementing a girl is clearly not working for your style. Try push-pulls or even showing overt disinterest when the girl starts chasing you.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:13 AM
1

Not everyone in this world is meant to be successful. This is one of those examples.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:12 AM
1

The moment you said you wanted a relationship was when you came on too strong.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:10 AM
3

It’s hard to say it because it’s terrible pick-up and you’d vomit if that came out your mouth. You guys really need to stop opening your interactions with a closer. You’re literally forcing the girl to reject you because she knows almost nothing about you and you’re immediately forcing her to make a decision about you. You provided no value in the interaction, and you then are asking her to commit hours of her life to a potentially dangerous situation where she’s probably smaller/weaker than you…
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:05 AM
1

Why? Because you’re not a priority to her. She has the nerve to schedule you down but in reality she is just waiting for her friends or for another boy to call her. If they do, you will get flaked on again. Take your pick. Go on one date and bring her attraction up so you become her priority or just drop it. Neither move is wrong but I would encourage you to stick through these tough situations as they will teach you more about pick-up than easy sets will.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:02 AM
17

Let’s not encourage people here to randomly grind on chicks from behind and call that good game. What you’re suggesting is to screen for girls that are immediately DTF. You’re turning this into a number’s game and turning this into a shotgun scenario. You don’t need good game to fuck a girl that’s already into you. Game is for us to attract girls that are on-the-fence with us. If you approach 100 girls and said “let’s fuck right now.” A tiny percentage would reciprocate. If you said “hi nice to …
/r/seduction04/12/19 05:13 AM
2

Tbh my heavy focus was on inner game. I had to not only convince myself that I was enough, I also had to prove it to myself. So I started by writing down 10 reasons why I would be a win for the girl. And I had to actually BELIEVE that I was a win for the girl. And a heavy focus on my sets became self-amusement and offering value. This is something old school RSD focused heavily on. This style resonated with me much better than just making girls talk and me asking questions. What is value? I’ve l…
/r/seduction04/12/19 05:09 AM
7

I don’t like the classic hot girl either. I have my own types so I go game those types.
/r/seduction03/12/19 08:00 PM
3

Before I learned game, I was a kissless virgin. I really tried to get girls but I couldn’t so in my reality, I cannot accept your statement about “game doesn’t exist.” I live in Maine in a town with 97% white people. There’s a perception here that Asian men aren’t attractive. When I talk to people here, they will always make comments about my race and try to ask me in an awkward-non-racist way if I’m an immigrant or something. Even in the middle of fucking, I’ve had girls tell me “I can’t believ…
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:56 PM
1

You probably don’t even need to approach, but if you do need to approach, just give off a flirty vibe/smile in general during your approach and guys should be able to read that and escalate.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:52 PM
6

Stop considering things shit tests. They’re probably just teasing. Have fun.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:50 PM
6

Interesting how my hot white friends can’t get hot white girls but I can despite being a short asian man. They have no game. Pass 2 shit tests, and suddenly the girl is engaged in me despite her being taller than me.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:49 PM
16

I can’t get out my house. I’m snowed in.
/r/seduction03/12/19 06:49 PM
1

How did you use the nystatin? Because if you used it correctly, nystatin is very inconvenient but should work. Pharmacist here. What medications are you on? Any inhalers? I’d like to hear more so I can potentially make a recommendation.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:45 AM
3

Then just don’t use the techniques.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:13 AM
7

They don’t get to practice pick-up, seduction, or cold approach in jail lol. They probably have a different vibe about them which attracts women. For instance, maybe they stopped being super reactive and stopped trying to seek approval. They started emulating the behaviors of the alpha males in jail probably.
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:12 AM
1

I’ve done bets by nothing too extravagant. Not really, no.
/r/seduction03/12/19 04:27 AM
7

Confidence comes from your vibe. Girls are very good at sensing the vibe you give off. It’s not necessarily how much or less you talk that shows confidence. Rather, it’s how much you believe in what you say. Have good posture. Have good eye contact. And when you’re around the office environment, be willing to make eye contact around the hallway and break room and say “hello” to everyone that comes your way. Solid smile and be pleasant to be around in general. When someone does something you don’…
/r/seduction03/12/19 12:50 AM
1

This is good. I’d like to hear your input on initiating physicality and eventually, sex, while you guys are watching Black Mirror. I think this is valuable and is the missing piece of his post.
/r/seduction02/12/19 10:25 AM
1

I just go and approach. Don’t overcomplicate things.
/r/seduction02/12/19 10:18 AM
1

Mall. Whole Foods. Walmart. A college campus. Any place where lots of people gather.
/r/seduction02/12/19 10:16 AM
8

No contact does not work on a girl who doesn’t care about you.
/r/seduction02/12/19 10:14 AM
1

Your issue is a basic human contact issue. This is a seduction subreddit.
/r/seduction02/12/19 10:14 AM
6

I like rejection because that means I did my job. Oh can’t win every set but every set should ideally either be a rejection or a result. The worst response is if a girl says “well... it was nice to meet you!”
/r/seduction02/12/19 03:08 AM
7

Go in strong and bust through the wall. If you don’t get their attention, you can’t get their eye contact.
/r/seduction01/12/19 06:38 PM
8

The shame of not approaching hurts so bad. That is why I approach. It must be done or I cannot forgive myself. If anyone in this world rejects me, I am fine. But if I don’t approach, I am rejecting MYSELF and that, I cannot tolerate. This is why I must approach.
/r/seduction30/11/19 10:29 PM
1

It depends on the rest of your interaction. How was the rest of it?
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:09 PM
2

Never in my life have I ever heard of an “explanation open.” That’s gotta be the most weak open I’ve ever heard of. Who is teaching that LOL.
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:04 PM
3

This is worse than 90 day fiancé. Also chill with the emojis. It’s not a turn-on for women to see those.
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:03 PM
2

Walk up and say hey. It’s just the standard cold approach format.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:55 PM
2

You don’t need to. Illusion of action.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:54 PM
1

Unless you go to Vegas and get married overnight, I have rarely heard of people actually getting into a relationship in 1 month. In fact, most girls in my experience try to initiate the “relationship talk” with me 2-3 months after I have been hooking up with them.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:53 PM
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Idk I was drunk as fuck when it happened.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:48 AM
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I second the answer provided. It’s a freedom and liberation from outcome.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:47 AM
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I mean I will literally approach if a girl is with her mom and dad. My only boundaries are when a girl and a guy are together. Idc if they’re plutonic best friends. I just do not want to approach this set. If a girl is at the gym, I do NOT approach. To me, the gym is 100% business. If the girl is on the phone, I don’t approach. I know how to, but I personally do NOT. If a girl is studying, I will approach but for no longer than 5 minutes.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:47 AM
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On one side, you have the advice “be yourself.” This is bad advice because being yourself = no results. On the other side, you have the advice “copy the behaviors of an attractive man/alpha male.” This works but you lose your personality. So what can you do? FIND A BALANCE. The right answer is the advice “be your best self.” Retain your personality, improve your life, and become the best version of yourself. Best wishes. I personally am quirky and charming and I’ve made that work.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:43 AM
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You need to make he conversation man-to-woman. How? Physicality. Verbals.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:41 AM
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I don’t set definite dates. My style is more so similar to Todd Valentine. I set vague plans and the night before/afternoon of, I’ll text them with the solid plan. Corey says the girl should be doing most of the conversation. I agree with this to some extent, but he doesn’t cover initial interaction cold approach dynamics: the girl isn’t ready to talk. Also instead of asking a bunch of questions like Corey says, I prefer to make statements and talk. This is called “offering value.” Back when rsd…
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:21 AM
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Try something light. Interrupt yourself halfway through your sentence. “You know what? You’re actually fairly adorable.”
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:15 AM
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If I get a girl on the phone, 19/20 girls will go out on a date with me. Part of your text game needs to incorporate transitioning into phone call.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:12 AM
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Dude I scraped snow and ice off my windshield today to go to the gym. And I’m going to nightgame in 2 hours despite the icy roads. If you want it badly enough, you’ll do it.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:10 AM
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Because there are no absolutes in life. Don’t chase. But sometimes it works. But just don’t chase.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:09 AM
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3% man by Corey Wayne. Internalize the content and you’ll have a basic understanding which will allow you to move forward. I don’t agree with all the content in that book but it’s a great place to start. The e-book is 7 hours long and Corey says beginners need to read it 10-15 times. Get at it.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:07 AM
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You stayed in text too long. Phone call or just flirt on the date.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:04 AM
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No.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:03 AM
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She has a lot of stuff to offer that other girls can’t. She sounds like a wonderful person and I admit I won’t approach her either. No one is perfect. Life is unfair. Some people have bigger advantages than others and some people are born with severe disfigurements.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:02 AM
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I get why everyone is saying “don’t.” But I was too curious and field tested this anyway. Here are my results: Most important message: they are going to say hello to you in a very customer service-y way. You need to open the girl twice. Break past the customer service wall. Obviously don’t do this if her boss is there. I picked up a girl from chipotle as she was scooping chicken to me. I complemented her glasses, had a quick 15 second back and forth, and then slid her my business card and as I w…
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:47 AM
1

Or just call the girl and do a standard structure game pick-up format via phone to reawaken her interest.
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:45 AM
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I like fucking to oh well oh well Mayday Parade.
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:44 AM
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Talking too much about yourself is good. You’re offering value in the form of your life experiences.
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:43 AM
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This video was amazing
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:15 PM
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Back when I was a beta male nice guy, yes. Now, I wouldn’t even ever dream or consider that.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:31 AM
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By chat, are you referring to the texting or are you referring to the initial in-person conversation?
/r/seduction27/11/19 05:14 PM
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I text them within 30 minutes. Of all the game I do, I am primarily a daygamer so this is my bread and butter. Within 30 minutes, I usually text them. After that, I may wait 3-10 days before I hit them back with plans depending on my schedule and our initial interaction.
/r/seduction27/11/19 04:47 PM
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Probably not a test. Just go and see what happens on the date. Keep escalating and if sex happens, cool. Or if that's not your style, just don't go out with her.
/r/seduction27/11/19 03:09 AM
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Reply to her story.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:45 AM
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You’re entitled to your own opinion. In my opinion, I like having the power and being the one with the choice to choose whoever I want to connect with.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:17 AM
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He has a huge advantage over you. That’s something you need to accept. Then after you accept it, level your game up and become more desirable than him.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:15 AM
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It’s flirting.
/r/seduction26/11/19 11:09 PM
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So you opened and closed her in the same sentence? You’re shooting yourself in the foot. You’re literally forcing her to make a decision about you with almost no interaction. She has no idea how cool you are.
/r/seduction26/11/19 10:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1jsfj/first_date_am_i_reading_too_into_this/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1h31e/asking_my_crush_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1btf0/should_i_pursue_her/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1l9fv/just_needing_advice/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1klfl/how_do_i_get_an_older_woman_interested_in_me_need/ https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e1kio1/having_a_girl_come_over_tonight_for_some_…
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:07 PM
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The secret to my phone game is the phone call. When I do cold-approach, my approach is going to be very solid. Usually I stay in set for 10 minutes on average. That's the standard length of my phone call as well. At around the 10 minute mark, I'm going to start seeding the pull to hint at plans. Remember, on average, it takes 3 attempts to close to make a sale. So if she rejects your plans, back off and flirt more, and then go for the close again, and again. Persistence pays off. Remember the pu…
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:50 PM
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Agreed. That’s probably not it.
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:21 PM
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You did pretty good tbh. I like the flirty reply you used. I’d recommend getting her on the phone and talking with her if her texting sucks. The phone call can reawaken her. Also, since you’re on the phone, you might as well try another closing sequence and try to iron out a date. (And even if things go good, just invite her over that same night as the phone call.)
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:15 PM
2

Have you started any new medications in this time? Pharmacist here. Some meds can decrease sex drive.
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:14 PM
5

You don’t have to do dance floor game if you don’t like it.
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:15 AM
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If I’m not misinterpreting your post, you’re just asking about general text game advice. PlayingWithFire on YouTube has lots of Tinder videos. Thats a good place to start. My personal recommendation would be to just start by responding to some stories or whatever she posts. At some point, get to texting, then get her on the phone. You can do much better work on the phone in a call. Talk for 10+ minutes and then start seeding the pull. Then go for a closing sequence at some point. You could also …
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:13 AM
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Bad love confessions will kill most attraction. I strongly advise against it. I’ve lost many girls from this. When I mean seeding the pull, I mean suggesting things you can do/interests in the middle of the conversation. For instance when you bring up “what are your favorite shows?” If she states she likes Black Mirror but is really behind on the series, that’s something that you can use later to pull her to your place.
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:08 AM
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Corey Wayne: Continue keeping the dates LIGHT and FUN. Keep the dates up. And after 2-3 months, the girl will want to be exclusive with you. Obviously this is a gross oversimplification, but the way to do it is to keep making fun-filled dates where sex can happen and let the girl be the one to bring up exclusivity. If you want more information, look up Corey Wayne. Would recommend his book.
/r/seduction26/11/19 04:11 AM
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Triangular gaze, smile, and if she is receptive, kiss her. I think your body will know what to do from here.
/r/seduction26/11/19 04:07 AM
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Of course. You never want to think “what if” so go for it.
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:44 AM
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I’d say 99% of the answers are actually “flirt and escalate.” But I see your point.
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:43 AM
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I thought this was a seduction subreddit. No offense, but when is a love confession ever part of our repertoire? The right way to do things is to flirt and get even more intimate. If she draws those actions to being plutonic, you need to flirt more and escalate if you think the time is right. Try triangular gazing and seeing if she will let you kiss her. Or role play and pretend to be her dog while she’s petting you. Bite her finger lightly. See if she is receptive. Move to kisses and then nibbl…
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:31 AM
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I’ve field tested this stuff already, otherwise I wouldn’t say it so confidently.
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:27 AM
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The comments on this subreddit will not help you as much as you can from learning from PUA YouTube channels. The information already exists on YouTube. You need to put in the leg work. There’s A LOT to learn. I recommend coach Corey Wayne’s 3% man book and ToddVDating on YouTube.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:48 AM
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Honestly if you’ve been talking for 15+ minutes and the vibe is really good, just number close and be her friend. I’ve gotten phone numbers from girls with boyfriends. I’ve hung out with those girls at concerts/raves/clubs and those plutonic girls have introduced me to some of their other girlfriends when we went out. They are amazing wing-women. Never eject yourself from a set just because she has a boyfriend, especially if the vibe is good.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:43 AM
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Standard pick-up procedure as a cold approach tbh. Maybe you had some history so you can bring nat back up to have a little bit of additional comfort, but this will largely be similar to a cold approach tbh.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:38 AM
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Hold her hand when you are alone walking thru the hallways. Don’t be shy. She likes you so she will be really happy. From there, take her somewhere private and make out with her. If you think you’ll go further, bring a condom in your pocket.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:01 AM
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Open the girl and then immediately open the rest of the group. Be sure to be standing NEXT to your target. There are a few ways I do. One is by “accidentally” backing into the girl. This can be good if you expect the guys may give you resistance in a direct approach. Another way is just directly approaching them and saying “you all look like fun people.” This is the concept, but in my personal experience, it’s really hard to pull this off: be friendly with everyone but give the girl a lot of shi…
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:55 AM
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Ask her if those two boys are her bodyguards. Then just ask in a cheeky way if you can borrow her. They can’t say no without looking like assholes. You can even hand of god her. Make no mistake: those two fanboys will talk shit about you to her. That’s actually going to help with growing your value/attraction. Let them wingman you.
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:53 AM
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If a man has the power to walk away, a woman will respect that man.
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:59 PM
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Hand of god and other physicality in daygame will help you convey premise. Obviously don’t be too physical, but with a language barrier, you’ll need to escalate using locational escalation and physicality. I’ve never gamed with a language barrier, but if you can come off as confident, maybe using a hand-held translator will help.
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:57 PM
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I like to tell people “I love you guys!” Guys, girls, everyone. I give hugs and friendly kisses on the cheeks to people. This makes the vibe really welcoming. But not the girls I am trying to game. Those girls will get push-pulls and negs from me. I am primarily a daygamer so when I nightgame, I’m still lower energy. When I tell people I love them and I hug people, it is very important to not look drunk. So don’t be too high energy and don’t make too much of a ruckus.
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:11 PM
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Whole Foods.
/r/seduction25/11/19 09:15 PM
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A cheeky smile and an assertive tone of voice will usually dispel any feelings of being “creepy.” Next, keep your escalation not too fast. If you escalate too fast, that can be offputting and potentially creepy.
/r/seduction25/11/19 09:14 PM
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If she learns about it indirectly, it won’t hurt you. In fact, it will raise your sexual market value. If you brag that you invited another girl, this will massively hurt you since it looks manipulative.
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:39 PM
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If you’re both walking towards each other, make eye contact, smile, and raise your right hand for a high five. She’ll engage and reciprocate. Nail a high five and move onto your work out. Non-needy and it’s very feel-good in terms of vibes. She feels comfortable around you. You can bet your ass later that she may approach you or that you can approach her later in the week.
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:37 PM
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Respond to her story. It’s the most organic way to open if you’re going purely Snapchat. If she doesn’t post stories or if her stories suck, just send her snaps about your interesting life.
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:35 PM
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Hey, excuse me! And don’t continue talking until she looks at you. That is the most important sticking point for you today. Do not continue talking until you get her attention first. Great work. Thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:00 PM
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So you hooked them, then none of them followed back. First, I think that you’re concluding that too soon. Continue sending them periodic weekly fun life-update texts and sometimes they’ll click and that will turn into a date. So NEVER count a number as dead so quickly. Second, in the interaction, you should be hinting at plans during the interaction. You’re getting their number/insta/contact info, but if you don’t make the phone number make sense, what is the point? Bring up “you know what? You …
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:53 PM
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Glad we can all help each other out.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:46 PM
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Sounds like you’re getting shit tested really really often. That might be the first place to start looking because if your approaches are solid, shit tests shouldn’t happen that often. Instagram closing is perfectly fine. Just do NOT let that be an excuse for you to leave the interaction. STAY IN.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:41 PM
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I’m glad we’re having the conversation. I’ve already sent in my input. Looking forward to seeing what comes of this. Thanks for being open with the community.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:39 PM
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Start with The 3% man by Corey Wayne. You need to reprogram your mind first.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:36 PM
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I’d probably tell her to have fun and to text me when she’s done. (Be cheeky.) Sloppy seconds are fine for me. Remember, girls just want an amazing experience. If you’re also a part of her night, she’ll continue the experience and she’ll likely be very down to fuck. Why? Because you’re riding on the momentum and good feelings the girl had from her first date. Take advantage of that momentum and just get down to business. Have her come over, get some wine, and just start slowly escalating. She ha…
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:34 PM
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No offense but do we really need to delete all those threads? I left comments on like 30 different threads and like 20 of them just got chopped down. I know they were asking questions specific to themselves, but the advice we provided was valuable for everyone to read.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:29 PM
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Your thread was deleted but I wish you the best nonetheless. Don’t take it too far and lose your job.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:17 PM
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You got good instincts. I needed to learn this from Todd lol. I was so lost about text game.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:16 PM
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You didn’t kill it. If your relationship was that flimsy that one text would kill it, you never had anything to begin with. In reality, you just set yourself back a little bit with that minor mistake. Review Corey’s content and just hang back for a while. Ask her out next week.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:14 PM
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If I’m being honest, I wouldn’t. That’s risky. But since you asked, you’re going to need to flirt very lightly with her. Just 1-2 flirty lines max daily. The other thing is eye contact and a flirty smile every time you see her. If you’re good enough, you can do other small things like winking at her when you see her in the hallway, a playful high-five when you walk past her, or maybe when she says something that can be misinterpreted, an eyebrow raise and smirk goes many miles.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:10 PM
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A meme. A life update. Something funny or interesting that doesn’t require a response. I refer you to ToddVDating’s channel on texting. He has a few videos about it. Highly recommend watching it tl understand his full textgame structure.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:05 PM
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Normal convo 90% and game 10%. Start light: “You’re actually kinda cute.” Or “that thing you just did right there, it was actually kinda cute.” Continue: “If we didn’t have such an age difference, you might actually make a great girlfriend.” And even more: There’s something so polite about you, yet so... devious. Like if we went out, we might start just by being friendly but by the end of the night, we might be all over each other.”
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:00 PM
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So you only want a work-place interest and nothing beyond that. No sex. Nothing outside of work. Just in-work banter? Then all you need is flirting. This isn’t anything advanced. This is beginner PUA stuff.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:57 PM
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Sounds like a friendly conversation more-so than a date. Your next move should probably be a 10-20 minute phone call later into the week to set a more seductive less-plutonic vibe. Then set a date and do things more seductively. Phone call: talk normally for a few minutes, then when she starts carrying the conversation, just tease and flirt when you chime in. After 10 minutes, start seeding the pull by hinting at plans. Figure out her schedule. Then schedule the next date. If you can’t nail the …
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:53 PM
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When pick up literally makes you pick up a girl. (Facepalm) This is too much flash game and I hate flash game. I prefer to just hand of god, pull the girl in, then tell her “I fucking hate you.” Instant make-outs are possible on the dance floor so... just do it.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:33 PM
2

You’re reading way too much material. Just pick something and take that knowledge into the field. Test and evolve. Read again. Test. Read again. Test.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:31 PM
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Start your practice with the girls you’re not nervous with. Ask them out and get some practice dates in. Few reasons why this is good: 1. The girls that you like will SEE you’re dating. That means you’re a sexual person. That’s positive on their opinion of you. 2. You get practice so you learn and stop being so nervous. Being nervous is fine, but don’t let it destroy you. After you level up, go after the girls you’re shy with.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:30 PM
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Yeah. Look good on your profile pictures and just be normal. Agreed 100%.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:27 PM
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Not everything from a girl’s mouth is a test. Girls don’t actually study game. Whatever comes out her mouth comes out. Maybe she was just really comfortable with you. Just keep going like normal and see how everything plays out. That being said, rule #1 of dating is to keep things fun and light. Remember that and try not to dig too much into the past. If she brings it up, change the subject without asking too many questions UNLESS it’s an opportunity to tease her playfully.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:24 PM
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Usually I pull Netflix and chill on day 2. If I can do a day 1 Netflix and chill, it’ll be from a different venue such as dinner or lunch. I usually escalate slowly. Two steps forward 1 step back always. My first escalation will NOT lead to an attempt to take off her shirt. Within 30 minutes, I will have made out with her and maybe gone for her ears, neck, and maybe stomach. The foreplay continues to slowly escalate. Pause the movie. Pauses are your friend. Pause and say “hey are you hungry?” Sp…
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:35 PM
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Keep on learning. We are all students of game. I love posts like this.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:31 PM
1

Realize she’s human too and she is probably interested in sex if the right man presents himself.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:30 PM
1

Fear and excitement are almost the same emotions. I personally get really excited when I approach a tall model. I’m a 5 ft 7 inch Asian man. I expect to get lots of shit from a blonde model that’s taller than me. But I genuinely get excited and enter the set to neg her.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:32 PM
2

Corey Wayne talks about “the illusion of action.” This means you feel the need to “do something” when in reality, a non-needy man would just leave it be.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:25 PM
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Try a phone call. Reattract her and ask her there. If that doesn’t work, I’d demote her phone number into my “practice” list. Every few weeks, I’ll send a value offering text to those “practice” numbers. Sometimes those texts turn into dates.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:22 PM
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Thanks. What did you mean when you said you “sent a few hints” ? Some advice: no bad love confessions. Just don’t. It’s cliche and doesn’t actually work. Talk to her and get her into a good mood. Then in the middle of it, hint at plans using a closing sequence. I use a 3 step sequence. First: tacos or pizza? Second: what’s your availability this week? Third: I actually don’t dislike you. Honestly we should hang out some time. How do you feel about tacos next Wednesday?
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:13 PM
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Pauses are your friend. At first, you need to talk like normal. After some time, shut up more and let the girl talk more. Talking too much is shooting yourself in the foot because you’re the one keeping the conversation plutonic. Pauses let you initiate physicality. Pauses allow you to change the conversation to something flirty or sexual since no conversation is in place during the pause.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:05 PM
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There’s no information on this post so.... go do it? Idk.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:03 PM
1

A phone number doesn’t mean anything. Your goal should be an instant date. The phone number comes second only when either you or the girl can’t just go out at that time.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:02 PM
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My tip, just grab her hand and hold it. You don’t need to do that other basic kino stuff like “let me tap her forearm real quick.” It’s unnatural and does nothing for you. Just grab her hand and hold it. In fact, I will sometimes grab a girl’s hand in a bad angle and she will reangle her hand so we can hold each other’s hands correctly. (This shows some investment from her.) Hand holding is not too blatant and is still very man-to-woman. It’s my favorite way to start physicality.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:00 PM
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You need to lower your threshold for what you call “success.” If you fear intimacy, don’t make sex a “success.” Make success = talking to a girl for 5 minutes and making jokes. Go home and celebrate. Then make success asking for a girl’s number. Go home and celebrate. Then make success getting a girl out on a date. Go home and celebrate. Then make success kissing a girl. Go home and celebrate. Slowly progress yourself. Re-define what you consider success or you’ll just have nothing but failure f…
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:55 PM
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Let me just make things simple: In my PUA lifetime, every girl I’ve met doesn’t give a shit about my money or my status. The only thing girls care about is the full experience from meet to sex. They want to be seduced and they want to just show up and have that full rollercoaster of an experience.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the survey. Happy to see the mods working on this sub.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:51 PM
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Invite the girl to cool shit you’re doing without any expectation that she’ll come out. If she does, cool. If she doesn’t, cool. I do house parties. The girl knows I have a cool life and even if she doesn’t come out, she knows the party goes on without her. And social media. Post your cool life. You’re not directly bragging to her, but she sees your cool life. And when you’re interacting with her, don’t ever be needy. That shows abundance too. If she pulls back, you don’t chase. You also hang ba…
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:45 PM
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Lmao hello fellow summoner.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:41 PM
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When you go somewhere, go there 20 minutes early and do a couple approaches. Simple stuff since university is beaming with life.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:08 AM
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As long as you show abundance without bragging about how many girls you sleep with, then you’re being attractive.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:07 AM
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If a girl rejects my plans, I’ll try again at least 3 times. If a girl flakes, holy shit I won’t even give it the time of day unless she reaches back to me and is apologetic. Typically if this happens, I’ll invite her straight to my place and order take-out dinner.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:04 AM
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Get them on the phone if you’re texting back and forth. It really helped the success rate of my setting plans. You can even call flaky girls and set dates this way. Regarding following up on numbers, I will typically invite the girl out via text once, if fail, invite her in 2 weeks, and if fail, I’ll text them and transition into a phone call for my 3rd ask attempt. My phone calls usually span 5-20 minutes depending on the flakiness of the girl. Change her mood, not her mind. Don’t logically con…
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:56 AM
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I hope this is a joke.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:54 AM
2

Fucking go. You miss all the shots you don’t take. If you get somewhere with her in these next 2 weeks, maybe you’ll see her again in the future. If you do nothing, you will never ever see her again. Do. Not. Miss. Your. Shot. Regret is the worst feeling. “What if...” I am a PGY-1 pharmacy resident. I shot my shot with a 4th year pharmacy student. She is moving out of state in 3 weeks but I damn sure would like to see her again. (Funny thing is I had to send her an email to even get her phone nu…
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:48 AM
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Put your foot down but don’t be butthurt. You’re a man. Nobody disrespects you like that. “Hey I don’t appreciate you disrespecting my girlfriend like that.” She does it again, cut her off. You don’t need that in your life.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:44 AM
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I don’t get it.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:45 AM
-2

This post is too vague for us to really provide help. Clearly something is going on so wrong in your approaches that it’s leading to this flake rate. Provide more details and we can help diagnose the problem/problems.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:43 AM
2

“I think you’re alright.” Then divert the conversation to something else such as their personality. “But honestly you’re an interesting person. I’ve never met such a strange person before.” -insert push pull.-
/r/seduction25/11/19 01:54 AM
2

Go on YouTube and learn how to hug, handshake, eye contact, and other essentials. Seriously, do this. You need to learn it. I’m just like you. I was sheltered until I went to college at 21. I remember the first time a girl gave me a compliment on my tie and I fucking crumbled cuz I didn’t know what to say. So if I can go from that shit to now being 25 and opening and pulling 10’s, anyone can do it.
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:45 AM
2

Congrats man. That sounds like a really solid set. The glasses compliment is actually really nice to give.
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:43 AM
0

Hit her up once a week with a value offering text.
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:48 AM
3

Before.
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:57 AM
0

Most girls don’t study pick-up so... I would never ask someone who has no pick-up experience about pick up.
/r/seduction24/11/19 01:49 AM
2

By “pull her somewhere,” I mean same venue but different location: grab her arm and pull her to an area in the club where you guys can sit together. A couch or something. Less loud so now you can use your verbals and more privacy so you can physically escalate.
/r/seduction24/11/19 01:38 AM
0

You’ll be surprised how horny 25-30 y/o women get when you get them into the party mood. They haven’t had that experience in years and haven’t met a guy who can do that.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:58 AM
3

Sounds like a missed opportunity but you didn’t ruin anything either.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:57 AM
1

Congrats.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:56 AM
1

I don’t drink even when I do nightgame. I just get 3-4 glasses of water the whole night.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:55 AM
1

That’s terrible.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:53 AM
1

Your message probably sucked so she didn’t respond. Needs more context or can’t answer.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:53 AM
2

The kiss was okay there but the better move would be to pull her somewhere else and get even more intimate with her.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:52 AM
1

I never take advice from other women.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:49 AM
1

I don’t really like nightgame but it works when I go out solo. I’m a daygamer and that’s where my true passion for game is at.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:48 AM
1

It’s the right move lol. How else are you going to confirm the date?
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:47 AM
2

Younger girls will do this until they get whiplash from an insecure guy that will blow up on her. Girls that have dating experience just hope we get the message and won’t be direct.
/r/seduction24/11/19 12:46 AM
2

I don’t care. If the girl and I are “hanging out as friends” for a couple of hours together, we will “accidentally” make out, “accidentally” keep going, and “accidentally” have sex. I could care less what the premise of any situation is. If you’re a high value male and this girl is alone with you and is at least mildly attracted to you, you can make good things happen. I never ask girls on dates. I ask them to hang out with me. I don’t tell girls that my house is clean and that I plan to pull he…
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:59 PM
12

Or you can just make a bet with your friend. “If I don’t approach that girl, I owe you $50.”
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:51 AM
7

Just a tip. Don’t buy drinks for a girl on the open. If you’re having a good time, by all means, but not on the open.
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:50 AM
3

There’s no perfect time. JUST GO.
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:49 AM
1

Everyone talks shit about RSD. Regardless of people’s opinions of rsd, they’re fucking killing it so...
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:04 AM
2

Your problem is you made it very obvious that pick-up was in progress. You need to be less obvious. The “can I steal this girl” line is fine. But the arms locking her is too obvious.
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:01 AM
2

Throw yourself in. Give the girl a big “hey.”
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:52 PM
2

I mean I can open a girl by an opinion opener by asking her if my phone case color makes me look gay so.... anything can work as an opener.
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:47 PM
7

Like a drug relapse.
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:46 PM
3

Bring a nice looking container of water with you. It makes you look HEALTHY and it looks STYLISH. (Not a shitty water bottle.) Drink a sip every 20 seconds. Your voice will be deeper and your voice will not be hoarse anymore.
/r/seduction22/11/19 02:45 AM
1

I don’t think any of the seduction subreddit members needs to pay for sex.
/r/seduction22/11/19 02:03 AM
5

This thread has no relevance in the seduction subreddit. In fact, we teach our guys here to be non-reactive and act high value. Move on.
/r/seduction22/11/19 01:22 AM
1

If I look at my post history, this is also accurate. I give good advice and the post is deleted. Then the OP always private messages me and continues asking for my advice.
/r/seduction21/11/19 10:11 PM
1

Don’t game in social circles if you’re a beginner.
/r/seduction21/11/19 06:13 PM
3

Smelt it dealt it.
/r/seduction21/11/19 03:34 AM
1

Never lose sight of your personality. I am charming and quirky at the same time. It can be done. And game should only be 10% of your conversation. The rest of the conversation should be CONVERSATION.
/r/seduction21/11/19 03:32 AM
4

This was the idea that made it all click for me: If someone rejects me, that’s fine. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT REJECT MYSELF. If I find a girl pretty and I want to talk to her, I will go. And if I fuck up, I will be proud of myself for going in.
/r/seduction21/11/19 03:28 AM
1

Yeah. I haven’t had a girlfriend before from doing game. I’m trying to find the right girl but at the same time, I’m going to keep practicing so when the right girl comes along, I can win.
/r/seduction21/11/19 03:12 AM
1

That’s perfect. Get snacks, board games, and try to not have your roommates by when it happens. I like to invite the girl back to my place and say “we’ll go out together to pick a bottle of wine.” So she feels safer and knows she’s not going to your place and staying. The second time you guys get back, sit with her and make her comfortable. Keep things slow and escalate slowly. 2 steps forward and 1 step back. Your first escalation should not lead to an attempt to insert. That’s how LMR happens.…
/r/seduction20/11/19 02:15 AM
1

Always carry a condom with you. And honestly I would have gone for at least a kiss. You guys drank alcohol so at the very least, one of my power moves is to talk shit to her and as we banter back and forth, forehead touch and keep talking shit. (Remember alcohol ruins your distance and proximity awareness). If she reciprocates to this, kiss her. Keep the physicality light so you can see her again without it being obviously for sex.
/r/seduction20/11/19 02:11 AM
1

When you’re all walking out the classroom, go and say hi. Ask her out to lunch or something.
/r/seduction20/11/19 01:37 AM
2

..............
/r/seduction20/11/19 12:13 AM
1

If you’re a beginner don’t game where you work.
/r/seduction20/11/19 12:03 AM
1

You’re sick of women. Then....
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:15 AM
3

My biggest advice. Open every set you find a chance to open. Your body sounds like it’ll do the rest. You clearly have the experience to do this. Don’t judge your owns sets and don’t be negative. “Hey!” Smile and then keep talking.
/r/seduction18/11/19 09:15 PM
3

Thanks Capt. I love your input to this subreddit.
/r/seduction18/11/19 04:41 PM
2

The eyebrow raise means she doesn’t even see you as a sexual prospect. You didn’t even register on her radar. That means you came off as too unconfident and she also saw you had some sort of agenda so she was suspicious. That said, you bailed too early which proves her point that you were unconfident.
/r/seduction18/11/19 04:32 PM
4

If you’re good at what you do, that’s disrespectful asf. But you need to provide way way way way more information about your social dynamics with her for anyone to even answer this question. I don’t know. Maybe you’re boring. Maybe she’s not engaged. Maybe you chased her too much and she keeps hearing from you too often. Maybe she’s a bitch. Maybe you’re failing all her shit tests. Literally too many answers but need more info. All I’m saying is I’ll be damned if my date is checking her phone. T…
/r/seduction18/11/19 04:19 PM
7

Walmart. Like idk man it’s so fucked. My town is tiny and there’s no other venues.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:32 AM
2

Fuck that sucks man. I’m sorry.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:29 AM
1

You’re being too clingy and it’s turning her off.
/r/seduction18/11/19 12:34 AM
1

I mean if she’s hot, just steal her away lol. You’re on a seduction subreddit so I assume you’re better than him.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:08 PM
3

Idk about the calling a girl right in front of her thing. In general, I always assume hey gave me a real number because I believe I was good enough. And if it’s a fake number, then it wasn’t meant to be anyway. Idk I just don’t want to put the girl on the spot. What’s the benefit? If she gave you a fake number, are you really going to ask her for her real number? Because I have pride and I wouldn’t.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:06 PM
1

I’ve had a girl number close me last week because I kept negging her and calling her bored/boring as she was at her job. It was a refreshing experience actually.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:45 PM
1

I’m a pharmacist. My recommendation is to see your primary care provider and talk to them about it. They can refer you and/or start medication. Perhaps that may help.
/r/seduction17/11/19 04:00 PM
1

This is good advice. But fuck I find myself not feeling like inviting some of these average girls to my apartment in fear that they’ll rob me LOL I always try to game high caliber girls but they’re rare.
/r/seduction16/11/19 09:46 PM
1

That’s the weirdest thing I’ve read all day LOL. But yeah, because time you see her, might want to approach her and call her a weirdo as an opener.
/r/seduction16/11/19 09:43 PM
1

Sorry I can’t really help. Follow your instincts here. If you give her the talk, don’t make it such a big deal and also do NOT text or do it over call. Must be done in person when you are both in a good mood.
/r/seduction16/11/19 09:38 PM
1

I know how you feel, but this is going to be heavily stressful to continue. If you wish, keep gaming as usual. I think you are doing things right by not over pursuing. Clearly she’s attached to you too. She’s trying to not be attached. She honestly might try giving you the “Let’s just be friends” speech. I’ve been here before. It’s hard to find closure.
/r/seduction16/11/19 07:51 PM
1

Except he’s asking about tinder text game. Tinder is a different animal because there’s no initial encounter so you can’t build rapport.
/r/seduction16/11/19 04:20 PM
2

It was a very predictable conversation. The whole thing was too straightforward and the girl knows that you only want to go out with her because she’s hot. The story in the girl’s head is: “this guy tried to pick me up. And I let him.” It’s not a very good story. What to do to change: more less obvious flirting. Do not be so obvious. Have some push pulls or something that puts some negative spikes into the conversation. And you need to make the phone number make sense. Talk about a common intere…
/r/seduction16/11/19 04:11 PM
1

You’re in a subreddit filled with people who do cold approach. This is probably the best place to be. There is way too much info on here already. Start reading and learning.
/r/seduction16/11/19 01:15 AM
3

It was a very transactional exchange you had lol.
/r/seduction16/11/19 12:35 AM
2

I observe the girl and open her based on something she does/says/anything strange or unusual. Scripted openers aren’t exciting to me and also don’t resonate very well with many girls.
/r/seduction16/11/19 12:34 AM
1

“All I know is her nickname” That’s a good start. “That I made.” Oh.......
/r/seduction16/11/19 12:32 AM
1

There are way too many things that could be wrong. You need to provide way way way way way more details.
/r/seduction15/11/19 11:15 PM
1

No....... Showing all your cards is the fastest way to deflate all the excitement and tension. Kiss her. Hold her hand. Do something else but don’t confess your feelings. This is a seduction subreddit.
/r/seduction15/11/19 04:04 PM
3

You’re still being yourself. The difference is you’re being your best self. You keep your identity but you will evolve to be a stronger and more attractive person.
/r/seduction14/11/19 10:48 PM
1

“Give me a goodnight kiss.” I threw up in my mouth a little. I am quite physical, even in daygame. But I don’t do cringeworthy shit like that.
/r/seduction14/11/19 10:47 PM
6

Game transformed me into a stronger man tbh. It made me realize all the unattractive things I was doing and why my needy behavior was so devastating to me. Now with game, I am so dominant in many other things I do in life. I love this about game. I hate telling people to “be yourself.” I prefer telling people to “be your BEST self.”
/r/seduction14/11/19 01:42 PM
1

Something interesting I’ve done is old school speed seduction, but I do it when the girl is at my couch and we’re fooling around a little. I’ve also never done triangular gazing before, but I tried it recently and it actually works. Regarding push pull, I think this is probably the thing that’s most missing from my game. I show lots of high value and create a decent amount of comfort, but I find I am quite late to introducing sexual topics into my conversations. My experience is: Even without ve…
/r/seduction14/11/19 01:36 PM
1

This is not gonna be easy. Reddit is probably not going to get you the hookup either. I don’t have any good suggestions but I wish you luck.
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:15 AM
1

I watched ToddVDating, took lots of notes, and got started. The small successes and failures came quick, and got me addicted to learning.
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:13 AM
13

Of course it works. Why else would we keep telling you people to do it.
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:59 AM
1

I don’t know exactly why the void lacks odor but I like the story.
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:57 AM
8

How long have you had that problem for?
/r/seduction14/11/19 02:23 AM
1

Be honest but also learn to frame your honest in a way that makes it sound good for you.
/r/seduction14/11/19 02:12 AM
0

Go to a party. Talk to a girl. Let it happen. It’s actually hard to not get laid if you are social.
/r/seduction14/11/19 01:48 AM
0

According to Corey Wayne, the women should do more talking.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:08 PM
2

What do you mean you couldn’t? She stopped you?
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:07 PM
19

Approach.
/r/seduction13/11/19 06:00 PM
2

I love the vibe of this post. Great FR!
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:55 PM
1

I’ll read this when I get home from work. Sounds like valuable advice. Thanks!
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:53 PM
3

Asian girls.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:50 PM
2

You must be new to infield. Most PUA coaches are fully wired with microphones and everything. You can hear everything, including the kissing which goes straight into the microphone LOL.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:50 PM
1

Some girls want to screen you. They’re not gold digging. They just want to make sure you’re a man. Just answer and move forward with the interaction. Don’t skip a beat.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:39 AM
2

If this is discouraging, go watch some infield to be encouraged again. Or better yet, go and do some approaches and see for yourself. Some girls literally will WALK AWAY after I engage them. Other girls will stay and be receptive to me and eventually we escalate into sex. So what does this mean? That reddit thread you linked is correct. But also the infield you watch is also correct. Both things can happen.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:38 AM
3

Headphones while walking is no problem. Headphones while working, I don’t approach.
/r/seduction13/11/19 05:16 AM
2

Sounds like you’re trying to inconvenience yourself for the sake of inconveniencing yourself.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:37 AM
2

I’ve done approaches with GROUPS where there are multiple guys. You did your approach terribly wrong.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:36 AM
3

I do NOT deal with women who do not have their shit together. But that’s just me. But regardless of how much you like or love her: You’re not her therapist. Either get her help or if she won’t help herself, I’d just tell her to get her shit together and I’d leave.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:28 AM
3

Exactly. This is exactly my same experience. These girls look scary from the RBF and because they’re at least 8’s, but they are extra down for the hookup because few guys approach them, and if I approach correctly, I can get them out on a date within 3 texts and they actually escalate onto me.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:10 PM
11

You’re not cheating. You put in the hard work to learn this material. You’re simply seeing the fruits of your labor.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:16 PM
2

I cannot ever tell. Literally cannot. Some of these girls will literally never look my way and they’ll be super down to flirt as soon as I engage them. Either they’re super super super discrete and I just cannot notice or they’re literally resting bitch face cold mode. I don’t know which it is but all I know is the girls that are very receptive to me never even glanced/checked me out at all.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:12 PM
1

I’d rather turn that into a statement. And it sounds like overthinking tbh. Idk how she interpreted that as a sexual question but then again, I don’t have any context.
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:38 PM
1

Start getting intimate with girls. Play 20 questions or something. Ask her what her worst sex stories are. After you start field testing, you’ll know this is true. Lots of girls have to fake orgasms and some girls don’t even actually experience good sex. They get married to a guy that has no clue what he’s doing and then it becomes a sexless marriage.
/r/seduction12/11/19 05:47 AM
25

You should have closed the second set.
/r/seduction11/11/19 04:28 PM
1

Some girls just don’t resonate to kissing.
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:59 PM
1

He’s been re-uploading a lot of old rsd videos that were deleted. Some are valuable. Some are a waste of time. Regardless am happy to see these videos back up.
/r/seduction10/11/19 10:07 PM
7

Grab her hand. It changes a lot of things if you were plutonic for a while. The other thing you can do is inject premise to the set. For instance, “you know what I find interesting about you...” or “can I be honest with you...” and say something that is man-to-woman.
/r/seduction10/11/19 10:06 PM
2

She’s just evaluating herself lol. Just stop contacting her. One text a week from here on out. A meme or a “social media update” text.
/r/seduction10/11/19 10:03 PM
8

You’re in college wtf that’s the answer.
/r/seduction10/11/19 10:02 PM
8

Clearly you have options and she doesn’t.
/r/seduction10/11/19 08:39 AM
2

Don’t make out at the end of the date. And why not your own place for a good date location?
/r/seduction10/11/19 04:43 AM
3

Oh I don’t use a camera man. I just turn on the voice record and keep the phone in my pocket. I found places where I missed flirts/push-pulls/misinterpretations. I can hear when I talk too fast. I can tell when I missed opportunities to physically escalate.
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:14 PM
5

I like the story. I started recording my daygame approaches using my iPhone and it made me realize what missed opportunities I had.
/r/seduction08/11/19 08:13 PM
1

Use the correct “your.” From this image, more than half your texts have emojis. Tone that down too. The vibe of this text exchange seems good. Just go see her and keep escalating.
/r/seduction07/11/19 09:48 PM
2

This comment is exactly what you shouldn’t do.
/r/seduction07/11/19 07:26 PM
2

Maybe she’s questioning why she’s so attracted to you and feels guilty about her current relationship. Or maybe you’re just overthinking. Girls have this special skill called: being normal. We guys, especially us pick-up guys, always lose sight of that. Just be normal. She likes you. That hasn’t changed.
/r/seduction07/11/19 05:08 PM
2

Give her Space and stop pushing for a relationship. Just focus on setting dates and being as fun as possible. Let her be the one to come to you and want you.
/r/seduction07/11/19 05:03 PM
2

Sounds like a really solid set to me. I wouldn’t overthink this.
/r/seduction07/11/19 05:02 PM
1

I watch infields before I go out.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:34 PM
1

Todd valentine says be 80% nice and 20% asshole. Let the girl know you have the ability to pull the asshole-trigger. You’re not nice because you have to be nice. You’re nice because you’re an alpha with options.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:31 PM
1

This is my kind of line. Have her come out with the expressed intention to hang out. Then let it lead to something more.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:28 PM
15

If you’re adopting a mindset to do it, sure. I’ll stick to my pussy ass hot showers though.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:25 PM
53

If the girl keeps starting conversations, sure. Most girls don’t with me and I don’t with them. We save it for the dates.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:24 PM
3

“Can you tell me where Starbucks is?” -girl points behind you- “walk that direction for 2 minutes. Then you stand there.... and you say something to show intent. It makes no sense. You might as well have opened with that intentful thing.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:23 PM
8

Great way to end the night
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:42 AM
2

Are we spoon feeding lays now? Uhhh I mean if you want to you can. He was a lost cause the moment he agreed to the terms.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:22 AM
9

Out of all the questions available to you in the English language, directions is probably one of the worst opens. You’re asking her to tell you to go away if you ask for directions. Just don’t ask for directions. And also, she’s going to wonder why you can’t use your smartphone correctly.
/r/seduction06/11/19 07:38 PM
4

I’m going to assume you just opened this subreddit without reading a single thread.
/r/seduction06/11/19 03:57 AM
2

Sounds like she’s being nice. Who knows. Just try to set up a date.
/r/seduction06/11/19 02:13 AM
3

No.
/r/seduction06/11/19 02:12 AM
1

Why anyone thinks they need that much in order to get laid is insane. You can’t even consume that much content and memorize it all.
/r/seduction06/11/19 01:24 AM
1

Sounds like you were intermediate in the past and now you don’t want to go out and do your first approach because it’ll be at a lower level than you’re used to performing. The only person who can help you is yourself. Get back into the field. Fail. Succeed. Fail. Succeed. Keep on doing it.
/r/seduction05/11/19 09:37 PM
1

No punctuation threads give me cancer.
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:40 PM
1

I think you need to get your shit together. She deserves a man who can lead and have his shit together, wouldn’t you agree? All the pick up and seduction techniques in the world won’t supplement a man who is mentally in the dumps.
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:10 PM
2

So instead of seeing a girl and counting 3. 2. 1. Go. You’re saying that we should hang back and “doing recon, scoping out targets, and background work.” What the fuck are you even talking about lol. This whole paragraph is chaos. We are PUAs. We aren’t James Bond.
/r/seduction05/11/19 05:36 PM
1

Uhhhh no you just have to be so damn good they don’t want another guy. It helps to have sex with the girl first and be her best sex she’s ever had. Then if you take her out, you can watch other guys hitting on your girl and laugh.
/r/seduction05/11/19 05:21 PM
3

You’re trying to generalize things about interactions that probably shouldn’t be generalized. If me and you were to experience something and we then told that story to someone, even though we both experienced the same thing, we would tell the story differently. Everything that happens to another person is different. Although there is a lot of stuff that should not be generalized, I think one good set of data would be: Hotness on scale of 1-10. If you opened direct or indirectly. How she reacted …
/r/seduction05/11/19 04:39 PM
1

Todd valentine talks about low energy + high intensity. If you game with high intensity, low energy can work.
/r/seduction05/11/19 04:36 PM
2

You don’t need to stare and lock eyes with random strangers. Just girls you’re trying to attract.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:56 PM
1

Holy shit he’s so bad LOL His concepts are decent, but he teaches without any structure in his game. And his very limited infield is not conducive of learning, and at best, he’s intermediate in terms of his skill level as a PUA. He’s better than me, but I don’t do pick-up for a living, and I’m also not a coach.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:51 PM
1

To expand, I leave read receipts on so they know I left them on read.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:32 PM
3

Agreed. This is how I deal with my silent tinder matches too.
/r/seduction05/11/19 06:39 AM
2

Yeah don’t be clingy. Don’t text her too often. Be able to make decisions when they need to be made.
/r/seduction05/11/19 04:12 AM
2

Uhhhh weird. I’ve experienced it the other way around. The moment I even decide to get squishy, the girl is immediately turned off.
/r/seduction05/11/19 03:04 AM
4

Respond to her stories.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:35 AM
1

Oh fuck LOL. You gotta slowly escalate to that shit man. If you do it right you can get a girl to talk about crazy sex stories or her links and fetishes even.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:35 AM
1

Make your teases around her. Whatever thing she does, reacts, says, tease it.
/r/seduction05/11/19 02:34 AM
1

Embrace the pain of not approaching. When I don’t approach, I consider it rejecting myself and my desires as a man. And that hurts.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:54 PM
2

Embrace the pain. Never reject yourself again.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:50 PM
1

It’s not.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:41 PM
8

I don’t even want my female bestfriend that I consider a bro to come with me. She knows I do game, but I don’t need an audience. Game is not for entertainment.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:36 PM
3

Thats not necessarily what I meant by “opened with a close” Open = hello Close = making plans There needs to be a lot more content in between this. From hello to attraction to some other stuff to finally, close. This is how you actually can nail sets.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:35 PM
2

I do the date request in person lol. The text is just a confirmation for location and time.
/r/seduction04/11/19 11:11 PM
1

I swipe right on tall girls on tinder. Sure, why not? Some girls will even use their height as a shit test.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:46 PM
6

I hate dance floor game but I can’t deny how effective it is.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:45 PM
1

“You’re on Fire. Literally and figuratively.” Idk lol smokers are deal breakers for me since I’m a health care professional that treats COPD patients. To be honest, I wouldn’t even mention smoking. Maybe if she makes a funny face or stands in a funny way while smoking, you can neg off that.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:43 PM
3

You opened with a close. That’s fine for a first approach but DO NOT DO THAT EVER AGAIN. What would I have done? “X is not my favorite name but you’re not so bad yourself. Joke: can I get you something to drink?” This is making fun of people at bars that offers drinks to girls as their way of opening. If she has a sense of humor and if you say this confidently enough, the joke may hit the mark.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:39 PM
1

If you’re proud of it, then be proud. Do not deny your identity. Sounds like you forgot to make things fun. So regarding salvaging this, do not apologize for anything. The moment you do, it’s dead forever. The next step is to very-limited-contact her for 2 weeks or so. And only message her when you want to send a value offering text. Do 1-2 back and forths. Just leave the convo first. A couple weeks later, re-engage her and invite her out. THIS TIME MAKE IT FUN. STOP MAKING IT SO HEAVY.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:36 PM
8

I love this. When I started game, I was so afraid of shit tests. Nowadays, I don’t even get tested and when I do, I know the girl likes me.
/r/seduction04/11/19 09:09 PM
2

Yeah once weekly has been good for me. The girls I am with know I’m busy and they themselves are also busy. I tend to game girls that are in their mid 20’s so they’re goal oriented and don’t want their guys to chase them since that’s boring.
/r/seduction04/11/19 09:07 PM
2

I’m quirky and alpha at the same time. I do both and girls seem to really respond well. The quirkiness helps girls trust me because when I play high value, I go really damn far. I’ve had girls tell me in the past “I don’t trust you” while they’re laying in bed with me. They physically know they’re not in harm, but they don’t trust trust me. The quirkiness really helps this.
/r/seduction04/11/19 04:08 PM
1

She’s not even bought in. If you actually want her to want you, you should NOT be straightforward. Building comfort can happen AFTER you have sex but don’t do too much of it before.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:17 PM
3

I do it a week in advance usually. Sometimes sooner.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:12 PM
11

You’re free to do whatever you want with your body. Would it help? Who knows. Probably would help attract a certain type of girl but without game, you might still fuck things up. I urge you to learn some game still so you at the very least, understand how to not fuck up. That should get you some success. Speak with a doctor before starting steroids. Weigh the pros and the cons.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:11 PM
6

I follow ToddV religiously. He’s he PUA that really got me results and consistently helps me learn game. Sometimes the needy thing to do is the right thing to do. I always re-text dead numbers. Sometimes I will even send value creating messages to a girl I haven’t spoken with in a couple months since she ghosted me. These messages can turn into dates. And I will do the same with Tinder matches that don’t respond to me. I will send an interesting text that does not require a response and sometime…
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:42 PM
1

You’re employing strategies of old school “speed seduction” game. It’s pretty much an incomplete model which is almost like opening with a close. It is not bad to incorporate in game, but if this is your only thing, your model of game is completely incomplete.
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:41 PM
1

I say that when I’m disqualifying the sex. It’s not a beginner game concept.
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:39 PM
1

You’re way too pushy. That’s why she’s not down with you. I’d recommend backing off and not trying to be around her all the time.
/r/seduction04/11/19 05:06 AM
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/r/seduction04/11/19 05:05 AM
4

I actually just enjoy coffee but I’m primarily a daygamer.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:48 AM
6

Uhhh weird. Usually a girl is hornier on her period and it’s the guy who backs off lol. Sounds like you need to research dealing with LMR. And the answer probably also has to do with all the pushing you’re doing. If that’s the case, this is a huge macro problem in your whole game.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:46 AM
2

These personality tests are pretty accurate, however, they should not be used as a crutch. If you want it badly enough, you’ll push all the excuses away and keep at it. Don’t give up. We all are students of game.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:45 AM
1

You pretty much just asked “how do I do game?” There are way too many sticking points to type in a single thread and if someone actually typed it, they’d be typing until their hands bleed. The answers are already available online. Find a good YouTube pick up channel and start watching.
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:44 AM
3

Actually Todd now uses the “OPENClose” model O: open P: premise E: evaluate N: narrative C: close Regardless, all of these models are pretty fucking amazing.
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:56 AM
5

I even nightgame sober. Stop replacing your personality/game with alcohol lol.
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:03 AM
3

Google and read up on “the point of no return.” You guys went too overtly sexual without having sex. She is trying to justify to herself why she didn’t have sex with you.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:32 PM
3

Honestly it’s needy, but right now, it’s the highest %success rate move. Make the message simple, recall something you guys did/talked about/tease her about something about her. And don’t point out the fact that it’s weird you found her on Facebook.
/r/seduction03/11/19 06:49 PM
1

She’s in your class. Just go talk to her in person when you can. Don’t be around her all the time. That kills attraction and defeats the whole purpose of going on a date with her. The main thing about building attraction with someone you see often is DO NOT TEXT THEM ALL THE TIME. This will kill attraction. I usually text once a week and I just send either a funny life update or a meme. I rarely do memes tbh. Usually the funny life update is good enough.
/r/seduction03/11/19 05:10 PM
1

I never bought it, but Todd’s free videos taught me almost everything I know about structured game. If you’re analytic enough, you’ll be able to logically piece together all his concepts and re-create a bare-bones “system” Todd is fucking legit. He is truly the best that I’ve learned from. If you want to support him, by all means, but I am tight on money so I didn’t.
/r/seduction03/11/19 05:07 PM
1

Sounds like a waste of time to game girls you aren’t attracted to lol.
/r/seduction03/11/19 04:22 PM
18

Why this post sound like he trying to sell a course or something lmao.
/r/seduction03/11/19 03:15 PM
4

I don’t even call girls by their name to be honest. When I text, it’s “Hey, blah blah blah.” Just play it off and eventually you’ll figure out her name.
/r/seduction03/11/19 03:11 PM
3

Everything is totally fine. You did good and she’s clearly into you.
/r/seduction03/11/19 06:36 AM
5

The last sentence gave me cancer. Can someone translate LOL.
/r/seduction03/11/19 06:35 AM
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She’s reacting positively, but to anyone who reads this conversation, don’t think this is considered good game. Game is meant to help you get girls that you weren’t supposed to get. And game is supposed to help you make all other girls solid and stay around. Everything displayed here, these are things you don’t want to do.
/r/seduction03/11/19 06:33 AM
0

How many alpha women do you meet lol? I meet very few, and they enjoy it when a man can put her in a feminine state. They get tired of all these boring men who bend to her.
/r/seduction02/11/19 11:01 PM
2

You’re asking “how do I create attraction?” There are a million answers, many which conflict sometimes. Everyone has their own style. And there really needs to be more context to help you answer this.
/r/seduction02/11/19 09:59 PM
1

By all means.
/r/seduction02/11/19 08:11 PM
1

........ Yes and no. This question is weird. Some girls get attached from just having sex with a guy they’re attracted to. Most girls I talk to don’t even make a big deal of their virginity. We’ve moved way past that. We’re trading crazy sex stories.
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:17 PM
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Neediness is not necessarily the right term. It’s just awkward for her to contact you. I doubt you ruined your changes and I also doubt you increased your chances. You can’t expect the girl to text you first if she feels neutral about you. The next time you see her, I suggest talking to her and NOT bringing up the note and NOT bringing up the fact she did not contact you. Also you already opened her with a very direct open. It didn’t work. So next time you open her, do something else. I’d go ind…
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:08 PM
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I am an avid daygamer. If I waited that long, some girls would literally forget my existence. Too much shit happens in 48 hours. I’ve never been called clingy for texting within the hour after I get a girl’s number lol. I usually hook and get dates with a decent amount of my cold approaches. If you text too late, the girl will forget all the reasons why you showed her that you were amazing. You can create attraction and show her your value in person as long as you actually successfully get her i…
/r/seduction02/11/19 05:14 AM
2

Not weird. We are all students of game. But I think that you’ll find that direct compliments will kill attraction. As a beginner, go ahead and start with that, but recognize that that’s not good game.
/r/seduction01/11/19 10:00 PM
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This is a seduction subreddit. All the girls I deal with throw all expected social norms out when in the privacy of a man she’s attracted to. She wants to be taken on the whole experience of seduction, teased, and then eventually, have sex. I believe in women’s rights. I respect all women and men equally regardless of gender. But this has nothing to do with that. If it did, why the fuck aren’t girls asking guys out at 50% of the time?
/r/seduction01/11/19 09:58 PM
1

This is reckless advice. I know what you’re saying, but let’s not overgeneralize and tell OP to shoot a kiss like it’s a last ditch effort. Girls can sense this type of beta behavior. The kiss is fine. But the mental place where the kiss is coming from is not fine. And Corey Wayne’s book is probably really good. I have watched his content before and he knows what he’s talking about. Would recommend to OP.
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:14 PM
1

You need to chill the fuck out. This is salvageable if you alpha this out. She invited YOU to smoke a joint. You think she wants to smoke with someone who she doesn’t think is cool?
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:12 PM
5

I drink a glass of wine when I Netflix and chill. I drink 1-2 beers and maybe a couple of shots in a house party. I drink no alcohol when I nightgame or daygame. In general, overdrinking can suppress the bloodflow to your penis too. And if you know game, alcohol just makes you sloppy. I want to be sharp af and 100%, not a drunk “natural” that just uses alcohol to replace my balls and personality. (Sorry if this offends anyone on this sub. I was dogshit with girls before game so I definitely do n…
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:07 PM
1

You’re on the right subreddit. Type it into the search bar and if the girl is still there, salvage this interaction and make it an epic night.
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:05 PM
3

It just sounds like an unreasonable expectation lol.
/r/seduction01/11/19 01:01 PM
2

Although this my be true in cold approach and/or other situations with strangers, I don’t think OP played it wrong either. The high value route would be to not contact her and to not take her contact if he knew that he would see her again. This is more-so for social circle game ofc. So in my mind, I think OP is overthinking it. @op, stop being reactive to her. Be the same way that you’ve been to her. Don’t chase. Just wait until you see her again and go talk to her like you have been. Clearly wh…
/r/seduction01/11/19 12:46 PM
1

Either. It depends on how they handle themselves.
/r/seduction01/11/19 12:41 PM
1

Thanks for the advice. This helps a lot.
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:39 PM
5

First I use words such as “danger, trouble, feisty.” And as the girl reciprocates, I go to: Eye brow raise when either of us says something that might be misinterpreted. Or Biting my own lips. Those are my two favorites. I throw those in before my physical escalations. (Obviously you don’t have to go in this order.) Have fun tonight!
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:35 PM
3

I’m dying.
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:05 PM
1

Confidence can be assisted from outside factors, but true confidence comes from good inner game. I suggest Todd’s free course called wINNER GAME. This isn’t an advertisement. The course is free. Just understand the reason why you’re doubting yourself is because you’re trying hard now and you feel like other guys are better than you. In the past, you probably didn’t care as much so you had less confidence issues.
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:02 PM
2

These all sound like excuses. I will just let you know that some of the people on this sub would be escalating with her.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:33 PM
1

That means don’t do anything that would make her lose attraction such as trying to say “what are we?” It will literally ruin the experience to her.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:28 PM
3

I think what you said is fine. It’s a bit much, but it’s fine. All I’d say is I’d never say that, but I acknowledge that it would work.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:26 PM
0

You’ve done more than enough tbh. Putting your hand on top of his and starring that long is already more than what a girl is expected to do lol. And besides, it looks like it’s leading to the make-out. Just wait for him. And if he doesn’t, then you really need to re-evaluate him.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:23 PM
1

You guys should be yelling into each other’s ears then. So she’s going to have her arm around you at least. And you should too. You shouldn’t be able to see her lips when she’s talking because her lips are next to your ear.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:22 PM
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She’s interested. The fact that she gave you a chance means she thinks you’re cool enough. Just assume attraction. She at least has minor attraction. This is very workable and is likely to be a very high compliance set. Your goal: when you go to the party, talk to EVERYONE. And also, talk to lots of the other hot girls. The main point: DO NOT GIVE THAT GIRL YOUR ATTENTION. ONLY A LITTLE BIT. ACKNOWLEDGE HER. THATS IT. And later into the night, go back to her and give some attention.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:19 PM
1

Yeah I figured the next step is to go out and experience it before I study more theory. Thanks! From my daygame fails, they’ve all been my biggest regrets. My last fail really hurt me. I lost the first 10. I hope my nightgame fails wont be as painful.
/r/seduction31/10/19 08:18 PM
1

Thanks for your advice. Maybe I’m in over my head here but I won’t know until it blows up on my face.
/r/seduction31/10/19 07:10 PM
1

Thanks. I’ll watch some infield today after work.
/r/seduction31/10/19 07:09 PM
1

I’ve had girls straight up tell me “I don’t trust you.” This typically happens by date 2-3. She knows she’s physically safe with me. But she doesn’t trust me. I am working to actively fix this. Groups are going to be difficult. I probably will struggle a lot with this. In general, I am aware I need to ask “how do you guys know each other?” And acknowledge the group as soon as possible. Aside from that, I don’t know much about group theory. I do daygame group sets sometimes and usually it is okay…
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:46 PM
2

I make decent money. But my game is centered around coffee, sometimes $50 brunch bills at max, and cheap-take-out-dinner. I’ll have be girl come over and she is the one who picks up the food. We pay for our own portion since we order online. This is a high caliber girl that guys are afraid to approach that is making good money herself. And we just Netflix and fuck. She wants the experience. I’m not taking every other girl out for lobster lol. I work a 9-5 job. But my life is still interesting. I…
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:38 PM
1

As much info as you presented, I’d like a little more. He does game. That’s good. But how has he portrayed himself? Your conversations with him: Do you get the impression he is seeing other girls? Is he going for an open relationship? A closed one? How has he been after sex? What does he do after sex with you? There’s a huge difference if he is taking you out for breakfast and cuddling with you afterwards. Some girls, I will get us to tell each other crazy sex stories. This type of relationship …
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:32 PM
3

Correlation does not imply causation. There are many rich guys who are dogshit at game. Yes, some rich guys who portray themselves as having cool lives will attract girls, and money can help with portraying that lifestyle. The connotation is that all those above people have interesting lives. The girl is after that interesting experience. NOT the money.
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:27 PM
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Your theory is inherently wrong. Most of the girls I meet don’t even care about money. They just care that guys aren’t living in their parent’s basements. I’ve talked about crazy sex stories and/or past relationships and the consensus has easily been that girls do not care about money, especially not during hook ups. Girls only care about the experience you present them. Literally they don’t care. I cannot emphasize this enough. They just want you to be as alpha as possible and they want you to …
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:09 PM
11

You’ve already diagnosed your problem. Stop texting them so often. My fix is that I got busy. I only initiate them for small talk once every week max. And if it doesn’t go overtly positive, then that’s fine. I leave the convo first after a couple of back and forths. And if it’s fairly positive, I will propose plans or just pick up the phone and call them immediately after they text me back. That’s it. The phone is a tool for making plans. If you keep talking to them so much, that’s the point of …
/r/seduction31/10/19 12:03 PM
3

Did you mess up? Yeah. You opened with a close. That doesn’t even make sense. Unless the girl had to be somewhere within the next 30 seconds, why the hell did you end the interaction without making it a solid number? Don’t blame the girl. You didn’t make the number solid.
/r/seduction31/10/19 06:35 AM
7

Just grab his hand and get lost in the darkness.
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:52 AM
2

I’ve done a “can I bring a friend” date before. Ended up winning the friend over so well that the friend “left to run a few errands” and winged for me.
/r/seduction31/10/19 05:51 AM
6

Never ever ever ask where you stand. Never. I don’t like to say never but this is a good time. Never.
/r/seduction31/10/19 03:16 AM
4

Shoulder bump her back and bite your bottom lip suggestively and lock eyes. See how she reacts.
/r/seduction31/10/19 02:45 AM
1

I am mentally and physically incapable of gaming anyone who I find not objectively attractive. This would ruin me lol.
/r/seduction31/10/19 02:44 AM
1

Public sex is a kink for lots of people. The sex is technically way worse and way less physical foreplay but in many cases, girls will enjoy it a lot.
/r/seduction31/10/19 02:41 AM
3

From the moment you sit down, pull up the arm rest and say “come here” and put your arm around her. That’s a start.
/r/seduction31/10/19 02:39 AM
2

100%.
/r/seduction31/10/19 12:31 AM
0

Yeah just ditch the first part lol.
/r/seduction30/10/19 05:33 PM
7

Showing interest is probably not the answer. I think what’s important is what you do after sex. The conversation, cuddling, or even getting breakfast with her.
/r/seduction30/10/19 05:32 PM
2

I hate canned game but I definitely have canned lines in my mind just in case too. This really helps the confidence.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:04 PM
1

Most people who get into pickup do so because we sucked or suck at girls so we are making an active effort to improve our lives. Make yourself at home.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:03 PM
1

I felt every bit of this. Keep searching for meaning in this world. Find purpose somehow. Not sure how but don’t give up. I’m sure it’ll be so worth it one day.
/r/seduction30/10/19 01:14 PM
1

Walk up, make eye contact, and give a strong, “hey.” Your question is really vague and in order to correctly answer it, would have to go very deep.
/r/seduction30/10/19 12:26 PM
1

Pick up was not meant to be used to help you get girls you’re already supposed to get lol. Pick up is used to get girls that are on the fence.
/r/seduction30/10/19 11:13 AM
1

The difference between a normal person and a PUA is huge. Both may ask for the date, but what happens on the date are likely to lead to drastically different results.
/r/seduction30/10/19 05:00 AM
1

Mad respect.
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:59 AM
2

I don’t like to make assumptions like that. Who knows and honestly, who cares. If you just hang out with her and things turn out good and you keep escalating, then who cares if she was asking for your cousin or making bad small talk? Clearly she’s interested enough to have a conversation. Thats a good start.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:37 AM
1

Daygame doesn’t need that much physicality. And for that matter, you can still kiss girls even on Starbucks dates and/or hold their hand across the table. If you instant date them to a place with benches, that’s plenty of physicality there too. If pulling to your house if it’s impossible, then just change your goals. This isn’t an excuse. You’ll get much more compliance in second dates anyway. If you’re cool as fuck, the girl might be willing to drive farther to a place closer to your apartment.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:34 AM
2

Grocery shopping and that’s about it. Busy life so that’s the most I can do. I sometimes get 0 approaches in the week just because of my 60 hour work weeks. It is what it is.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:31 AM
1

I’d approach and not even mention tinder. Just do it like a normal cold approach.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:29 AM
2

A little bit weird why she asked for your cousin but maybe she was just trying to make small talk. It’s hard to tell but just go out with her and see what happens.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:25 AM
16

Good game doesn’t look like game. If every other word out of your mouth are lines, it becomes tryhard and the girl can’t even trust you.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:23 AM
3

I'm the only asian guy in a bar with cowboys. I just get AMOGed really hard actually. "Hey is Jackie Chan bothering you?" is something I hear every nightgame session. I actually like being AMOGed. Because these cowboys are naturals. They can't handle someone who is higher value than they are.
/r/seduction29/10/19 10:13 PM
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......... Don’t just disappear. That’s leading someone on. Be a gentleman and tell her you’re not interested and just leave it. Don’t be aggressive and don’t be an ass. Just be cordial.
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:29 AM
2

I like it. Thanks!
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:16 AM
2

I don’t think I’d ever use these interview questions. That’s a big no thanks from me
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:28 AM
96

You’re lucky. I have no one in real life to learn pick up from. It’s a solo activity for me where I learn from people online. Take advantage and absorb everything you can.
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:26 AM
3

This is half funny but is actually true. Maybe tone the bitch part down but this line will work.
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:24 AM
2

I would smirk/wink and walk past her. To ignore her is actually probably going to be perceived as weakness. Don’t be fazed. Acknowledge her likely and keep walking. That’s probably the highest value thing to do.
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:24 AM
1

You have the right idea. Yeah I wouldn’t show that you’re too attached. I would focus only on making the best sex and being fun and present for her. Let her chase you and want you. She will bring it up if you’re good enough.
/r/seduction28/10/19 09:10 PM
3

Don’t call if she hasn’t responded to the text. That’s even more needy than double texting tbh. And you will just be at 0 momentum if she doesn’t pick up. I like to text, girl responds, then I call since she’s next to her phone. She has to pick up or it’ll be weird. And I explicitly tell girls I hate texting.
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:47 PM
2

I’m a double texter when I’m talking shit and bantering with a girl. But when it comes to closing, single text only. Being slightly needy and double texting is alright if it gets the date. It’s the right move. When the date happens, just be non-needy and all is solved.
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:45 PM
2

You don’t want to give all your power away. It sounds like you guys started this with the acknowledgement that it was a rebound? Feel it out. If she’s as good as she sounds, I’d probably talk to her and open up since she’s clearly already open. “Idk what we are, but I guess it doesn’t matter because I like being around you.” It might be too early. Maybe I’d start with a subtle conversation and see how she feels first.
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:42 PM
1

Thank you. This helps a lot.
/r/seduction28/10/19 11:17 AM
1

Don't apologize to the girl when she sees your dick. Don't tell her you have a small dick. Don't even mention it. If she sees and makes a comment, she tbh is not even trying to shit test you, she is just surprised and says the first thing on her mind. Just be confident and don't be butthurt when you respond. The rest doesn't even matter. I just talked to a girl yesterday and she was talking to me about how she was vibing with this guy with a micropenis and when she finally saw it, he just kept a…
/r/seduction28/10/19 02:25 AM
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Not only did it help me get started, it's still content that I watch on a regular basis. If you're one of those guys that immediately grabs boob or pussy when you start making out, I 10000000% recommend you to start looking this stuff up. There are people who have spent their lives learning sex and actually teach sex and other bedroom things as a living. The topic is more complex than most men think. There's a reason why so many girls fake orgasms. These are missed opportunities that if you fixe…
/r/seduction28/10/19 02:13 AM
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start gentle with three fingers. .............................. LOL
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:34 PM
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Some girls are in relationships with guys that they don't want to leave and those girls don't want to hurt their guy's feelings. Saying 'No' and giving someone harsh/negative feedback can be tough for some people.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:33 PM
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+1 for the tomato sauce please.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:32 PM
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To be honest, this sounds way too advanced for me to pull off at the moment. I think I'll just do some standard stuff and fuck her first before trying anything too advanced like this. I don't know if I will get a day 3 with her, but I will just hit her up next Wed-Thurs and see.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:28 PM
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Yeah, I'll do an update and tag you all with my experience or lack of experience next weekend.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:22 PM
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I love the triangular gaze and then stop half-way. I am going to use it. Same with the kiss tease. It's almost like an Eskimo kiss. Thanks.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:21 PM
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She was giving me every possible sign. What is your powermove for “going for it?” I froze. I knew what she wanted but I just didn’t do anything.
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:16 PM
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If you fuck them, they will know you’re not gay. You’re not showing enough premise with the girls. They don’t know that your interaction with her is sexual.
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:14 PM
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Have you had girls try to game you before? Lots of girls have very very bad game. I really appreciate their effort when they game me, but imagine someone texting you “what’s up?” You already know that “what’s up” is SHIT game. But for the girl, that’s her best effort. And I am happy that they use that to show interest.
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:11 PM
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I gotten into parties walking around college campuses and approaching girls dressed to party. You can do the same at any social area. Currently I’m in a tiny town where for some reason, the Walmart is packed with people every Friday 6PM. That’s where I go to do my weekly shopping and gaming to get into parties. My malls suck so I don’t mall game. You can probably mall game if you have good malls. Just note: every girl in a mall is either on the phone if they’re alone or they are in a big group. …
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:07 PM
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Look up “daygame” on YouTube. That’s a place to start.
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:05 PM
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You treat talking like I treat my texting. I do not small talk in text. I only set dates. Talking is serving a purpose: you're building the girl's experience and attraction to you. What you don't understand is the female psychology. If you don't give a girl anything to work with, you're asking her to form an opinion of you with very limited information. Some girls may be down with that, but most won't. It's fine to not care about her stupid passions. But somehow you have to play the game in a wa…
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:16 PM
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Sorry man, I don't know. I hope someone else on this subreddit can offer their insight. I'd love to learn about this too. Edit: I looked him up. He sounds bold and charming. Not afraid to say whatever he wants to say. He has opinions. It's pretty good. His sense of humor though, if it really fits you and you can really pull it off, you'll definitely be unique. I personally cannot pull that off, nor does it suit who I am so I never will attempt it.
/r/seduction27/10/19 06:01 PM
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Micro-escalations. The easiest way in my opinion. Talk to your crush. Suggest take-out dinner and Netflix. Dim lighting. Pick a movie. I watched “my husband won’t fit” last night. It’s such a funny sex Netflix original. Literally the story is about the husband’s dick being too big. It’s funny and it’s sexual. Blanket and couch. And if he’s too much of a pussy/oblivious to cuddle you, just literally put your back on his chest and lean. Don’t say anything. Don’t comment about it. Just do it. Get w…
/r/seduction27/10/19 05:08 PM
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Slow the fuck down. Get in front of a mirror and smile and give yourself an arrogant grin for 1 minute. You’re the fucking man. Then go. The more confident you show up, the fewer shit tests they’ll immediately throw at you. You’re psyching yourself out because of these shit tests. Your biggest problem is your open is probably weak. Get her attention. Lock eyes. Then say whatever open you wanted to say. It’s not the words. It’s your tone. It’s your eyes. Your smile. After the open, don’t just get…
/r/seduction27/10/19 05:00 PM
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Yeah I mean to do that on your date night.
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:56 PM
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Best wishes. Bring a condom too. Don’t expect sex, but your goal should be a make-out or two. Don’t kiss her at the end. There’s no perfect time but I like waiting at least 10 minutes after I start cuddling. When you guys sit down, start cuddling. There are a million ways to initiate this. The simplest way is just say “come here.” And that’s it. Get a blanket too. My move is simple: when you are both watching tv and cuddling, just turn your head and look at her. She will turn her head and look a…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:53 PM
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Charisma is not only about verbals. It’s how you carry yourself. Your posture. Your walk. Your reaction to situations where other people might panic or lose their shit. Think James Bond.
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:49 PM
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Make it not a big deal and now it’s not a big deal. “Hey. Sorry I was dealing with some stuff earlier but it’s whatever now.” She might say something here. You respond. “Nono it’s not you. Anyway don’t worry about it.” And then, “Anyway, I feel like I haven’t seen your face in a while.“ Then the rest of this conversation is up to you. You’ll need to tease her here. I hope you can do this for 2-3 minutes. This will generate attraction and bring the mood WAY UP. Then do not ASK. Just STATE IT. “Le…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:45 PM
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I don’t do that type of game. That’s considered flash-game in my opinion. Doing overly sexual things can cause a girl to experience cognitive dissonance. She normally does not behave like that. It just doesn’t build trust. You’ll lose a lot of sets like this but you’ll hook a good amount of sets too. Don’t expect this to work in day game though. She will talk about whatever is on her mind. You will as well. Give her shit and tease her. Almost all girls will be like this. You can definitely insta…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:36 PM
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Thanks. Will update.
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:33 PM
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Most people go their whole lives not even understand that all the girls with them are faking orgasms. There are people on YouTube who specifically have channels dedicated to teaching sex. Sex is COMPLICATED to the point where people have studied it all their lives and make a living teaching it. What does this mean? There’s lots of new content for you to explore. Have at it. I suggest starting by learning how to actually eat pussy.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:53 PM
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That first paragraph is a total mess. You sound like you jumped deep into pick-up and got lost in all the pick-up concepts. I respect your grind. I hope this helps: Say this with me. PICK UP IS NOT THE CONTENT OF YOUR CONVERSATION. Your conversation is like the meal. Pick-up is simply the spice you sprinkle onto your conversation. Be whoever you want to be. And then sprinkle the spice on top of that meal. Your style sounds like... “charming.” Don’t be afraid to be sarcastic. Give the girl shit. …
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:46 PM
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Charismatic, yes. High engagement, maybe yes and maybe no. High engagement is good if it’s you being low energy and everyone else around you being magnetized. If you are high energy dancing monkey, this is the opposite of high status.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:44 PM
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I agree. I love just doing an observational opener with a girl at Walmart. Suddenly, we’re in banter as we shop together. And then we either instant date back to my place by cooking dinner together or whatever. Night game is easier for beginners. But clearly you’re no beginner. Daygame gets easier the better you are.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:43 PM
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My advice, keep a condom in your pocket. You’re here to PLAY TO WIN. The condom signals to yourself that you are ready to go all the way. As for your skill level, I watch Todd V Dating on YouTube. He really helped me understand the game. A best time... it depends on your town. If it’s a larger town, clubs will be open later. You need to figure it out. 11:00 is usually a good time to enter. Line not too long. Not crowded. If you come at 11:30 the line might just get insane and you’ll be standing …
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:40 PM
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I like the concepts you shared. I’ll give you my interpretation of your advice. Critiques would be appreciated. So we’re cuddling on the couch for a little... I was thinking maybe I can start with her ears and work to her neck. Then pull away and keep watching the movie. Then kiss her again and push her over. More neck and then her stomach. Maybe I’ll try to pull away again and say “wait we missed that part of the movie.” I’m hoping here she just pulls me in.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:37 PM
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Daygame is the purest form of game. No gimmicks. Less bullshit. Harder and more rewarding.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:30 PM
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Yeah, harsh reality hits me. Thanks for the brutal truth. I talked the talk with crazy sex stories but I couldn’t deliver. Next weekend, I’m going to pull the trigger. I promise you that.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:27 PM
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4:30 is too early but you can probably walk around and daygame and invite girls that are around there into an instant date -> bar. The logistics sound really bad for you though. If you live far away and she can’t take you home, where will you guys fuck? I’d rather go to a smaller venue that is closer to my house.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:25 PM
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“Hey! -pause and make sure she is looking at you- You have the most ____________” That is my opener if I can’t come up with anything else. The blank can be whatever you can come up with on the spot. I even once fucked up my open and then just facepalmed myself and said “Haha im sorry, I had a rough week and I’m pretty tired right now but when I looked up and saw your face, I had to meet you. Your smile seems... very bright. It’s refreshing.”
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:22 PM
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The other people commenting on this thread are CORRECT. Since they didn’t feel like explaining it to you, I will. She has you strung along. You need to stop talking to her so goddamn much. The phone is meant for setting dates. If you talk to her so much, what’s the point of her coming to see you? And the moment you get a chance, stop immediately trying to make out with her. Kiss her, then pull back. Stop jumping at every chance you get. It kills attraction and trust. She knows that she can have …
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:14 PM
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Best wishes. I hope for your success.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:12 PM
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My advice is to learn how to initiate a make-out and then, sex. I went on YouTube and learned how to touch a women and how to have sex. Donofdesire on YouTube will teach you how to eat pussy. Learn from him.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:08 PM
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You’re fucking it up. She has every right to talk to whoever she wants to. You being needy and bring this up is going to destroy whatever attraction she has of you. Take her on a date, get alone with her on the couch afterwards, and make-out with her. Don’t tell her you like her either. That also kills attraction. Instead, say this very very very slowly. DO NOT RUSH SAYING THIS OR IT WILL NOT WORK: “there’s something... intriguing about you. You have this cute.. and innocent look.... but when I …
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:01 PM
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Wait a week. Let her miss you. She likes you but is mixed atm. I wouldn’t even text her until a couple days before you want to set something up.
/r/seduction27/10/19 02:56 PM
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100% agree.
/r/seduction27/10/19 02:56 PM
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Literally the same as my hair. Disconnected undercut. You’re doing it right. Could be your eye contact and small facial expressions that changes things. Maybe if you had a bit more of an arrogant smile it would work.
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:29 PM
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I had the same problem as you. My biggest mistake was being immediately clingy when a girl showed me attention.
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:27 PM
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These other clowns don’t know what they’re talking about lol. If you’re not 40, you’re fine to walk through the campus without being questioned. No one will question you and you do not have to explain yourself either. Just go. If you have to justify it, then it’s weird. I’m a graduated pharmacist. Why am I still in a college campus? “I’m super just... roaming around today.” Those are the exact words that come out my mouth when someone asks me. Then after I say that, I usually throw a tease at th…
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:19 PM
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Change your hairstyle maybe? Grow facial hair.
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:18 PM
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Agreed. Never deny yourself. Just do it to the best of your abilities so you don’t regret it.
/r/seduction26/05/19 07:03 AM
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Social proof is huge with women. I have some girls who I’m very “bro” with. Great winggirls and they have fun watching me pick up girls. My winggirl, at first, didn’t believe pick-up was real and used to do bets with me. She’d lose and buy me and the girl I made-out with drinks. Definitely meet more girls and befriend them. Also had a winggirl that friendzoned me. Eventually was able to get a lay with her since she winged for me on another girl and ended up going for a 3-some with me.
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:56 AM
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Age is not as big of a deal as you think. Nothing’s actually stopping you from hooking up with 18-25 year old girls on campus.
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:53 AM
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I think sex is more enjoyable for girls. As guys, it’s just like moving back and forth and thinking, “this feels nice.” Girls get to moan and multiple orgasm.
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:51 AM
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This is really valuable. Thanks!
/r/seduction26/05/19 05:21 AM
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Why are you even on this subreddit? Do you actually believe plastic surgery = seduction?
/r/seduction26/05/19 05:16 AM
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I use Ocean from bath and body works. Weird place to get cologne but the girls love it. Personally I disagree with the girls that say this, but some girls say that my cologne, “smells like aftershave.” I think it smells good but not like aftershave. Whatever, everyone likes the smell. I think it’s Ike $30 for one fairly large size. It lasts a very long time. Try it out.
/r/seduction26/05/19 05:13 AM
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You are overthinking this way too much. It’s not rocket science. Go out and have fun. I personally don’t do nightgame with my coworkers around. But if my coworkers flirt with me, I’ll flirt back. Have fun and if you’re not attracted, don’t pursue it.
/r/seduction26/05/19 05:10 AM
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Unless you have some severe burn wounds or are born with severe deformities, your face is not holding you back. Good game won’t win you 100% of girls, but your success rate will be dramatically higher. Stop making cop out easy excuses. If you want it badly enough, you’ll put the work in to building your game.
/r/seduction26/05/19 04:20 AM
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You’re competing against way too much noise on these dating apps. Like 10 guys trying to holla every hour. JUST RESPOND. If good game = responding to texts slowly, everyone would automatically be good at game. Just respond. The right move might be a little, “needy,” but trust your game. Trust that if you get her out on a date, every slightly needy thing you did in text messages before doesn’t matter.
/r/seduction26/05/19 04:18 AM
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The whole, “DO NOT VALIDATE HER,” thing is so weak. If you have some weird verbal tick that doesn’t allow you to game this way, then use push-pulls.
/r/seduction24/05/19 11:05 PM
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There’s the “put a gun to your head” tactic. Your brain is smart. It will prevent you from looking stupid. So that means if you keep your mouth shut, your brain will keep your mouth shut. But what happens if you join/start the conversation? “Hey!” Or “yeah and...” or “you know what I like about you?” What happens if you say one of those above quotations to her? ^ Remember what I just said: your brain is smart. It will prevent you from looking stupid. Since you started the first half of the sente…
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:21 AM
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I love the positivity and encouragement of this sub. Congrats op! Thanks for the field report.
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:17 AM
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Accidentally r/gettingseducted
/r/seduction23/05/19 11:36 PM
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Thanks for this post. Will look for local events on Facebook.
/r/seduction23/05/19 11:35 PM
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Aside from the community colleges which are actually probably a good option tbh, the nearest university is 1 hour away. You gave me a good idea: I'll hit up the community college and see what I can get.
/r/seduction23/05/19 09:20 PM
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I mean I grew up here and went to high school here before I moved out to go to college. There were plenty of attractive girls of my relative age when I was in HS. IDK what I expected but what you say makes sense. Bleh
/r/seduction23/05/19 09:19 PM
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