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I feel like some additional info may help here just for context- So I did spend many months progressing through the levels...lifting, wardrobe, reading, building a fuller social life, etc. I spent a long while at level 5. When I felt confident there I began using social situations as a chance to talk and let her see some social proof. I gamed girls during the day when I had a chance but didn't really seek it out. Played some catch and release. When I was with her, I used kino and tried to lead t…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/04/17 07:00 PM
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This makes sense...I'm sure I can find some places where I could improve. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/04/17 12:22 PM
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No, that's the easy part...framing the next steps within the LTR is where I'm looking for advice.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/04/17 12:19 PM
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Point taken...thank you for the reply.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/04/17 12:18 PM
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solid advice right there...thanks.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 05:15 PM
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That's a good point...looking back, I probably should have communicated more. I was concerned about falling into the trap of trying to negotiate desire because I wasn't sure how to have that conversation...so I chose STFU and try and use actions, and here I am.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 03:22 PM
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That's a fair assessment...
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 03:19 PM
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"And now you want to climb back down to being a beta phaggot because it didn't work and you think that you want to do that to keep the relationship?".........not exactly, I think it did work, and now I have her attention and the ability to frame things the way I choose moving forward. That is really my question- asking for advice on frame. "Is she the person you want to be with, if you just met her would you put up with her shit?, is she draining your balls regularly, is she making your life fun…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 12:52 PM
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Absolutely...I agree. Right now she's trying to show me she's in, so I don't want to fuck up and undo any good that may come from this.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 12:48 PM
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Much appreciated- I agree, frame will be absolutely critical...I guess my writing in my post didn't make that question clear, but I'm glad you addressed that. Thanks for breaking it down. Regarding the rejection, I wouldn't so much call it butthurt, or at least I didn't act that way to her...it was more of a deep inner frustration that pushed me over the edge. Actually when I was talking to her about how I got where I was, she said she had no idea I was so upset about things...so either she's ob…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 12:42 PM
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Good points...thank you
/r/MarriedRedPill14/04/17 12:29 PM
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"I am guessing she told you she wanted you to stay. cried, begged. you said, yes, I love you dear. She said something like "ok but I need to trust you again, I don't know if I can..."" This...is what I want to avoid. This...is the whole point of my post. How to deescalate from 11 properly.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:53 PM
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Well, yes, you are correct...it is just that simple functionally speaking.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:48 PM
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What makes me stay- she's an intelligent low drama woman that is higher quality than most...our sex life was dull, that's what made me want to leave.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:42 PM
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Thanks for the feedback- yes, I'm interested in hearing from guys who went this far and still wound up with their wife/LTR afterwards. I wasn't really asking a specific question, just looking for advice based on first hand experience.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:36 PM
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Actually, we did have lots of sex that day...so yeah, I guess she realized. Now, if you were in my shoes at that point, what would you do?
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:32 PM
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Deescalation...that's what I'm after. How to do that correctly, is it worth it, what to avoid, etc? I'm not dealing with guilt since I was prepared to do this.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 08:05 PM
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So why can't level 11 work? BBP says its a hail mary pass...most likely won't work, but there is a chance it will. I apologize my writing isn't clear enough...but what I want to give her a shot. Whats the point of levels 10-12 if you aren't open to giving her a chance? So, yeah, I took it to 11 because I thought I'd try that before leaving...it seems like it may work...so, I'm here for insight from guys who have been there.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 07:32 PM
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I think you were so busy 'faggoting' you misunderstood the entire point of my post....I spent a year doing this for me, because what I wanted is for the LTR to work (which I assume is how most guys get here), but since I was doing this for 'me' I was prepared to leave to find something else....and now that this MRP shit has finally brought me to a point of actionable results, I'm asking for advise on how to walk a relationship back from the brink....because that's what I want. So, respectfully, …
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 05:24 PM
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Well, I've spent the past year working on myself...so that I would be a man that my LTR wanted. I know that sounds like a giant covert contract, but the fact is that she was my preferred choice. I honestly didn't expect level 11 to work...caught me off guard and now I have a choice I didn't expect.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/17 03:04 PM
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" Don’t expect shit to change until your results are different." Excellent observation- Thoughts and intentions will only carry you so far. That's your frame, which is the critical foundation...but tangible results and actions are the marks that define the true value of a man. Or, put another way, Acta non verba.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/04/17 01:04 PM
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Early on when I began doing this, I got the same reaction...most likely because I had a track record of being butthurt. This is why it is so important to find ways to fill your time with new and interesting things...that way when she refuses you have plenty of things to do and that will make you appear less butthurt while you develop OI/DNGAF. Also, this will make her have to compete for your time and attention...once she realizes you have other options on how you spend your time (other than on …
/r/askMRP02/04/17 05:49 PM
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I think the difference is in regards to perspective- No, you aren't a special snowflake when you haven't put in the work, don't want to own your problems, wonder why life isn't going your way when you are a low effort neck beard pussy. Yes, you are the prize once you've internalized TRP, spent months lifting, owning your shit, built a strong positive masculine frame, and bring value to and energize those around you...But all that still doesn't make you special, it just means you don't suck as a …
/r/askMRP02/04/17 12:01 PM
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Excellent observation on Fogging. This is such a powerful technique, and I think you nailed it on why it works so well. Excellent post.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/04/17 11:55 AM
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Excellent comment...your observation about dread is spot on- it has to be internalized to the point of being unconscious action for it to be fully effective. I think that it also requires, in the higher levels, for a man to realize that he's emotionally checking out of the LTR.
/r/askMRP31/03/17 01:23 PM
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I got the impression that she is indifferent about him removing his affection...since she doesn't seem to care one way or the other, what good is his effort to show her affection and attention if the result is no different from removing it? I agree that he should be leading, but at what point should he be considering higher levels of dread to perhaps effect some change or get a response?
/r/askMRP29/03/17 07:05 PM
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Literally...the very first links on the sidebar. Look over here ------------------------->
/r/askMRP28/03/17 07:45 PM
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I'm going to try and do this without sounding like a humble brag... In a similar situation with my LTR: finances, fitness, leadership, etc, etc,...all dialed in, or at least much more finely tuned since TRP. She is also dialed in, high earner, fit, smart, STEM field, low drama, etc, etc. Our shit is locked down tight. No kids, low stress, plenty of free time and discretionary income. ...things should be a cake walk right? Well, that's what lead me to TRP. Things were dull...sex was/is starfish d…
/r/askMRP22/03/17 07:49 PM
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Ok, well I'd suggest trying to carve out some time to spend with her mid week if possible (if you want to). Maybe crash at her place one night during the week, maybe meet for dinner or a study break, maybe have breakfast(sex) together, schedule an morning jog and finish with shower sex, etc, etc, etc. But always remember- you're in college, a target rich environment, don't settle for a mediocre relationship that requires undue effort at this point in your life. If it isn't fun and easy, don't fo…
/r/askTRP22/03/17 12:51 PM
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I was in a STEM/ Engineering field in college and I had plenty of time for boning several times per week...So, my question is- Who's schedule is it (predominantly) that limits your time together?
/r/askTRP21/03/17 07:47 PM
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Anyone else noticed this from a woman involved with horses? Seriously, forget the MS for a moment, I've noticed a pattern unique to women in equine sports...anyone else?
/r/askMRP16/03/17 09:12 PM
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"another chick approaches me and asks me to join her at the table" ...sounds like the night wasn't all cold blooded defeat.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/17 02:15 PM
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Exactly- if she decides to give no-effort-sex, then my concern switches from 'our' experience to 'my' experience and I do whatever I want...which has included everything from going full on caveman to stopping right in the middle.
/r/askMRP15/03/17 02:10 PM
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Your frame is your reality....its how you view or 'frame' the world around you with regards to how you choose to respond to it. If you are constantly having to fight or use will power to control your frame, then you are getting pulled into her frame which is obviously stronger than yours.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/17 01:59 PM
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For me it depends upon the reason- If she's got a legit or understandable reason (exhausted, period, illness, important chores, etc), I don't sweat it. However, if it has been several days or longer and she denies for some BS reason like really needing to work on her current game of Sims, then yeah, I have a huge problem with that.
/r/askMRP14/03/17 05:00 PM
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Also agree- we always hear and repeat, "We fix the man not the marriage"....so it would be great to hear from some of those men who fixed themselves and left the broken marriage.
/r/askMRP14/03/17 04:53 PM
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The 'zero tolerance' approach you've adopted is great if that works for you...but just keep in mind that hard nexting a plate or LTR means you will then have to go out and invest more time/effort into new possibilities. The need to invest energy and time into women never goes away unless you choose to MGTOW. Sometimes, it is far more efficient for a man to manage his plates/LTR by setting standards, boundaries, and holding frame rather than an immediate hard next just for a minor shit test. YMMV…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/17 02:35 PM
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"They are time wasters, money wasters and energy wasters." ...Only if you have a weak frame and allow them that power over you. This is just another way they test the strength of a man's frame and his commitment to himself/his mission. A good question for a man to ask himself is, "Does the satisfaction she provides equal my investment?"
/r/TheRedPill14/03/17 02:19 PM
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"Some time ago my wife fell out of love with me how I made her feel and sex stopped." FTFY Internalize the difference or you may be doomed to repeat the pattern. Best of luck on your journey and congrats on going into the future with such a positive attitude...please drop an update from time to time.
/r/askMRP14/03/17 02:06 PM
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Agreed- remove your attention and let her come back to you. Worst thing you could do is chase her.
/r/askTRP12/03/17 05:17 PM
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Pussy. Pull your head out of your ass and consider for a moment that this is a world of abundance. Lost your girl? Find a better one. Lost your focus in life? Take a minute to assess and set new goals, then go crush them. Clap for yourself. Uncomfortable? You're a man, find comfort in the discomfort. Seriously...you need to stop letting a woman define this much of your life and define a new mission for yourself.
/r/askTRP10/03/17 09:59 PM
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This is kind of like a shit test/ beta filter...she wants to find out if you can 'take' her (she wants to be taken) or if you will wind up flipping over to beta and try and make sweet cuddle love. You must be dominant during the initial encounters... My guess is that if you fuck this girl and give her a good dose of dominant hair pulling, ass slapping, tossing around (she wants to feel your strength) maybe some biting...she'll be plenty happy. She just wants to make sure you're not going to put …
/r/askTRP10/03/17 09:48 PM
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Yeah, that's a rough way to begin around here, LOL! Regardless...the key thing to internalize is that when a woman senses that you don't have other options, she doesn't feel any pressure to 'perform' to keep you. Once you have options and she knows that, then she must put out or get out. As I said before- if she's into you, it shouldn't take a tremendous amount of effort to fuck her...if she makes it overly complicated, then she is trying to make you her beta-orbiter.
/r/askTRP10/03/17 03:55 PM
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"Ok, so this is about one specific girl." I stopped reading right there. You have oneitis. You will telegraph that to her. She will pick up on that. She will shit test the piss out of you. If she's into you, she will find a way to fuck you...otherwise, next.
/r/askTRP10/03/17 02:46 PM
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Right- she knows it pushes your buttons. Now, imagine yourself with her naked and aroused...she's climbing on top and begging you to stick it in, just for a minute, bareback. We all know how that goes. Do you have the self control in that situation to insist on the rubber?
/r/MarriedRedPill10/03/17 02:27 PM
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"What else should she get in return" Good question- read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/5yejxu/most_mens_masculine_ideal_is_not_alpha/ But the short answer is this: FEELZ Her 'feelz' is why AWALT. The same reason a SAHM with an attractive wealthy beta husband will bang the broke 'loser' with no career and a criminal record- he made her feeeeeel something. If you bore her, her pussy dries up. If you improve yourself and hold a covert contract that now that you're 'jacked' …
/r/MarriedRedPill10/03/17 02:21 PM
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I found this post fucking excellent... pure gold. Internalize this OP- you have to lead the sexual dynamic of the relationship.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/03/17 02:13 PM
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Agreed- this read like any other, "Should I fuck her or not?" post until that part. HUGE red flag.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/03/17 02:01 PM
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Who in the fuck 'labeled' you? You. That's who. Fucking change that mindset. As long as you wear that label, you're done before you even start. You said you've been seeing some gains and progress- congrats! Now, realize that you can be your own mental point of origin...take advantage of that progress and start acting like the alpha you're becoming. Act like the prize. Time is your greatest asset, never waste it.
/r/askTRP03/03/17 02:29 PM
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"Ok, me neither...Let's enjoy the short term, what are you doing Saturday?"
/r/askTRP02/03/17 07:03 PM
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Take up a martial art at a gym that allows sparring...full contact physical confrontation in a controlled environment will help you. Once you become comfortable with physical confrontation, typical verbal confrontations you encounter in daily life will seem much less intimidating. Also, read NMMNG and WISNIFG...both excellent books.
/r/askTRP02/03/17 02:01 PM
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All pussy is the same, the only difference is the way the girl acts during sex...if your LTR is acting the way you want her to during sex and you're getting the quantity you want, then new pussy will gain you nothing.
/r/askMRP25/02/17 08:30 PM
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Pushing the limits and continuous efforts at initiating are always good...primarily because it sets the expectation that you want and desire a certain amount of sex. She needs to be fully aware that you are a man and as such have a base level biological need for sex. This is why having the "talk" is never as effective as just initiating more...women talk, men do.
/r/askMRP25/02/17 08:27 PM
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Walk away and game a different chick...not sure what age gap you're dealing with, but if it is large (10+ years) some girls are into older guys...find one of those and your evening will be much better.
/r/askTRP24/02/17 04:16 PM
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I recall he said to only bargain for sex with more sex...never bargain for sex with a non-sexual favor. Example: If you initiate and get a soft no, counter with an offer of something along the lines of, "Ok, you drive a hard bargain...tell ya what, I'll throw in some extra kissing and licking and maybe I'll even do that thing to your nipples you like so much"
/r/askMRP24/02/17 03:56 PM
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I think most guys in their journey experience a certain 'lag time' where they have improved to the point where IOIs from other women are becoming more frequent and yet the wife/LTR hasn't quite caught up. This is a difficult time because your hard work is beginning to pay off, but not with the wife...yet. It seems to be a familiar pattern: guy discovers RP because of dead bedroom or shitty wife, guy swallows the pill and improves, sex frequency goes up but its still vanilla starfish duty sex, gu…
/r/askMRP24/02/17 03:04 PM
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Posted this in another thread...but it fits here. Daniel Bergner wrote a book called "What Do Women Want?" In that book he writes about a study that was done using medical instruments to actually measure the arousal levels of women that were shown various erotic images. What they found was that women had the largest arousal response to the image of a raging boner So, let that boner rage...science says that it's probably making her panties wet.
/r/askTRP23/02/17 02:33 PM
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This.
/r/askTRP23/02/17 12:08 AM
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Learning to stay out of her frame by avoiding emotional arguments...by far the most important concept I've internalized. Read WISNIFG...learn to FOG!
/r/askTRP22/02/17 04:11 PM
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Daniel Bergner wrote a book called "What Do Women Want?" In that book he writes about a study that was done using medical instruments to actually measure the arousal levels of women that were shown various erotic images. What they found was that women had the largest arousal response to the image of a raging boner So, let that boner rage...science says that it's probably making her panties wet.
/r/askTRP17/02/17 02:09 PM
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Given the number of women you've had, I want to know....where is your abundance mentality? Where is your DNGAF? Where is your stoic attitude? Where is your game? Where is your leadership? Recognize that you obviously have the ability to get laid. Recognize that you should NGAF or fear her emotions. Recognize that right from the outset you should be leading and shaping the dynamic of your relationship. YOU are the PRIZE...act like it.
/r/askTRP17/02/17 02:04 PM
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You've internalized one of the more important RP concepts- not engaging in, or trying to DEER your way out of, an emotional argument. That was one of the single most important things I learned here...it literally almost eliminated all of the 'fights' in my relationship. That, and learning to Fog. You are selling yourself short- You may not be 'there' yet, but remember as others have pointed out, your biggest asset is your time and attention. By improving and owning you shit more and more, that a…
/r/askMRP17/02/17 01:48 PM
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Fucking excellent...I'm totally going to steal this.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/02/17 02:03 PM
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Excellent post...maybe even sidebar material. I certainly wish this was available a year ago when I began my journey.
/r/askMRP15/02/17 01:59 PM
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Agreed- there isn't much to decipher about overt communication, which is kind of nice...I've adjusted my game accordingly. As a point of reference, she works in a STEM field, so perhaps that has some influence.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/02/17 07:36 PM
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Solid post- my technique isn't as refined, but I've run similar game on the LTR in the past...however, what I ran into is that she would take a covert suggestion and make an overt response. Example: I make a covert (somewhat naughty) suggestion about shampoo and the shower...and she responds with, "Ok, we can have shower sex". Sometimes it would be a rejection, likewise, making the covert into overt communication. Didn't really think too much of it until I read your post, but I would like you th…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/02/17 07:10 PM
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Or, another perspective- Ask yourself, "Am I worth it, am I worth improving?" As Seamus pointed out, this is meant to save you, not your relationship...you decide how long to wait on her to come around and follow your lead once you've improved.
/r/askMRP14/02/17 06:42 PM
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You're missing the whole point of catch & release or even deciding to fuck her...it's about developing abundance mentality. If the whole exercise is "absolute torture" or "a horrible feeling"...then you're going into it with the wrong mindset. You should start from a mental position of feeling like the world is a place of abundant pussy waiting to hop on your cock because you're so awesome. The game of catch & release is just a way to reinforce that frame of thought and prove its validity. Once …
/r/askMRP13/02/17 09:48 PM
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Honestly, I think this may be just as simple as being fit (no dad bod), wearing sharp looking clothes appropriate for the occasion, excellent posture, and smiling. People can sense a positive attitude. In a sea of weaksauce dad bod slobs, it doesn't require that much effort most of the time really. Sure, certain venues may be more challenging, but in everyday life, I've found the small details work great. Edit: Read "What Every Body is Saying". Excellent book on body language....this may be that…
/r/askMRP09/02/17 03:57 PM
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Solid fucking observation- this is really the essence of MRP...improving yourself, becoming the prize, standing out as a man in sea of mediocrity.
/r/askMRP07/02/17 06:46 PM
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"and guess what, the same goes for her." Excellent point...the road of attraction goes both ways.
/r/askMRP07/02/17 06:42 PM
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That's fine, but consider this: *Abundance mentality- you feel this when you have/cultivate multiple sexual options. Abundance mentality makes you feel confident and kills oneitis...this confidence you exhibit helps produce dread because you give less fucks about your LTR because you know you have options. Since you do not want to bone this chick for very valid reasons, you are not creating sexual options for yourself and this isn't legit abundance mentality...it won't come off the same way. *Dr…
/r/askTRP07/02/17 03:58 PM
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This will not induce dread...and since you have ruled out sleeping with her you will not build much abundance mentality either. I'd scrap this idea. If you want to induce some dread, take your girl out somewhere and be flirty with other girls in front of her, or go somewhere you can open display your high SMV in front of her and other women.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 02:21 PM
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Being short is a handicap...no doubt. I'm not tall, short side of average, but I can say without a doubt it makes a difference. It can be overcome though- game, fitness, being an interesting person, confidence, etc....these things can mitigate being short. Example- I had a friend in college who was only 5' tall but he ALWAYS had some chick on his arm because he was ripped, confident, and his game was air tight. Yes, you will have to work harder, but that just makes the success so much sweeter.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 02:16 PM
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...because you know deep down that this confirms that your SMV is currently lower than a shorter, thinner, smaller, scruffier dude.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 02:00 PM
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Meet up to do what? Have coffee? Fuck? The only reason to do this is to generate abundance mentality. If that is your goal...fine, go ahead. Having abundance mentality is a powerful tool. If you are trying to induce dread, just remember that your LTR needs to SEE the social proof of another woman interested in you. If you think that her finding out about you meeting up with the other woman behind her back will cause dread, you are mistaken.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 01:57 PM
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generating abundance mentality...which is to dread like octane booster is to gasoline.
/r/askMRP06/02/17 03:13 PM
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Interesting to note- hops are a mild phytoestrogen. Probably too mild to really matter, but it does make you wonder.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/02/17 04:37 PM
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Cycle tracking is important, but its only a tool...and that tool is only really effective if you apply it with the right mentality. Don't forget to give yourself a pat on the back here- you're obviously making progress by internalizing and properly applying RP principles and techniques. If you weren't improving as a man, cycle tracking alone wouldn't give the same results. So, congrats.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/02/17 04:31 PM
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That makes sense- thanks for the additional insight!
/r/askMRP01/02/17 07:49 PM
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I'd argue that perhaps the OP should ask himself if he feels responsible for making her feel good...sidebar/decide/learn that he shouldn't, and then detach the emotional hose. There may be no need for such an overt encounter (directly asking her) since women deal in covert communication she should pick up it rather quickly. Also, he needs to internalize this concept before he initiates such a direct approach. Thoughts?
/r/askMRP01/02/17 02:46 PM
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Indeed...the possible result of playing 'catch and release' perhaps?
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/17 03:51 PM
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"Grab her roughly and fuck her hard. I'd then argue that starfish sex is the test. But then....if you aren't put off by starfish go for it." Interesting point- once you've done the caveman enough and improved yourself enough, the starfish 'should' taper off...I guess the big question every guy has to deal with is how long will I tolerate the starfish while I improve???
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/17 08:54 PM
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Agree 100%...Trump shit tests are way up... Interesting thing I've noticed though, and I wonder if anyone else has noticed this- Pro-Trump women seem to be very outspoken about their approval, its like they want you to know that they like Trump.
/r/askMRP26/01/17 08:23 PM
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"It is as if anything sexual, can’t happen until we are actually in the middle of sex. What is happening here?" Have you tracked her cycle? My LTR is like this except when she's ovulating...I take this to mean I still have work to do, but I did find it to be of interest once I figured it out.
/r/askMRP26/01/17 08:14 PM
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Very interesting observation- So, planning and executing are only half the equation...you need OI also to make the effort worthwhile! I had not made that connection yet...this has given me some food for thought.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/17 10:05 PM
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"You said X," "you're being an asshole a lot lately," Congrats, you're doing it right! "i'm going to come up with a name for you that I'll call you whenever you annoy me or act like an ass." I'm going to now relentlessly test your frame to see if the changes are real.
/r/askMRP22/01/17 01:39 PM
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We aren't here to judge or validate your feelz...If you want some strange, fine, but keep in mind this place is about building better men...so, before you branch swing into another relationship I'd be sure that you've put in the work to fix all the stuff about YOU that got you into the bad situation with your wife.
/r/askMRP22/01/17 01:33 PM
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yeah...kinda what I was thinking.
/r/askMRP22/01/17 01:26 PM
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Maybe I missed something, but what is there to handle? She got her period and had a rough morning...now her emotions are stirred up. Why are you afraid of her emotions? Think about that...seriously. Are you worried the pussy supply will dry up since she's angry? Guess what?...buying her flowers will 100% validate her emotions and CAUSE the pussy supply to dry up. If she's just being cranky to you because you did exactly what you do every day, then just ignore, STFU, hold frame and let the storm …
/r/askMRP20/01/17 08:40 PM
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This is spot on...I agree the OP used fogging well.
/r/askMRP20/01/17 04:19 PM
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Leading by example is good...but also remember that effective leaders delegate responsibility and hold their team accountable to their performance.
/r/askMRP20/01/17 04:17 PM
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I don't buy into too much of the NoFap stuff, but...there is one key thing that I do like about it. If your wife becomes the only outlet for your sexual release, then you will be driven to game her more and put in the effort to work on yourself, or if that doesn't work you have motivation to go out and implement active dread.
/r/askMRP19/01/17 08:33 PM
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Just make sure you're reasons for not initiating are 100% for you to make efforts at self improvement... If you're not initiating as a way to force her to do it or see how long she will go before bringing it up then you are heading down a long miserable path that goes nowhere.
/r/askMRP19/01/17 06:55 PM
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You don't know how to lead yet. My Ex was like this...deferred to me on everything. This was pre-RP time for me, so I found it annoying like you do. The difference between then and now is that then I didn't understand proper leadership so I felt burdened. Now, I've developed much better leadership skills personally and professionally and would have a much different take on things.
/r/askMRP19/01/17 06:51 PM
1

I will be watching this one closely since I'm in a very similar situation right now....LTR brought up the fact she doesn't like a recent renovation at the house, asked why I didn't consult her (she's had the plans for months now). I told her I liked it, and certainly wasn't going to pay to have it changed. Feminist shit storm ensues. Something about how I never ask her opinion (total BS). Anyway, I'm footing the bill for the project, fuck it, it's going to be done to my satisfaction. So she give…
/r/askMRP19/01/17 06:42 PM
2

Get into the right body fat % range, and things will be better for you...this should be your mission...getting as fit as possible for summer time. Otherwise, keep initiating sex and use your newfound dedication to fitness as a bolster to OI. Your thought process should go something like this: I feel like sex so I'm going to initiate...got shot down...hey, no worries, I have more time for pushups or squats...go workout until the anger/frustration goes away...repeat daily. The point is always make…
/r/askMRP19/01/17 06:23 PM
8

"My question is: I don't know what to do." ...yes you do. You're just coming on here for validation.
/r/askMRP16/01/17 08:10 PM
1

I've heard you can buy some with bitcoin...
/r/askTRP16/01/17 07:11 PM
1

Never go digging through the garbage for something you threw away...it smells bad, the neighbors will see you do it, and when you find whatever it was you're looking for, it will not be as good as you remembered it.
/r/askTRP16/01/17 07:05 PM
1

Dude, she is begging you to have some dominance and aggression in the bedroom...she wants to be taken, or as she puts it, "i want you to fuck my brains out later tonight" Don't ask or remind her next time...no words, just approach her and go full on caveman.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 07:00 PM
1

Agreed...abundance mentality is a powerful thing.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/17 06:41 PM
1

Can you identify anything or any event that caused or marked the end of that desire? I'm quite curious about that turning point since you had a good track record of desire and attraction for two decades...That may be the gold nugget to pull out of the whole experience.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/17 06:34 PM
1

What is the sound of one hand clapping? What is the perfect knot? The complete lack of context makes it damn near impossible to answer this with any degree of certainty...But, I'd say Fog and insert AA & AM when appropriate.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/17 06:28 PM
2

Just curious...where would you rank you wife's SMV relative to yours?
/r/askMRP16/01/17 06:05 PM
6

Indeed- I think those are things that every man on here strives to achieve with their wife/LTR. The struggle though, at least to me, is whether or not the juice is worth the squeeze. The best lesson taught here is to improve for yourself, but what if those improvements don't result in the desired outcome with the wife/LTR??? We save the man, not the marriage...maybe every man reaches a point in his journey where he makes this choice consciously or subconsciously... I can sympathize with your pos…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/01/17 05:03 AM
5

There is a lot of talk on here about being her 'oak' and standing firm while weathering her emotional storms...I get it, but someone on here made the observation a while back that weathering the storm is fine, but after a certain amount of time putting up with too many storms, a man may just decide to move to a warmer climate. I guess the real question is, what do you want? Or rather, what perspective did you gain from the experience?
/r/MarriedRedPill14/01/17 03:53 AM
1

Try this sometime- make your hours of leaving and returning more erratic for a couple weeks (spend this time studying the sidebar). If she asks, just give a vague answer about "lots to do"...then take a sick day or vacation day mid week, but don't stay at home with her that night. Tell her you are taking the day off to do some personal things and go out that night and do whatever you want. Come home late the next morning and go straight to sleep. If she asks why you aren't spending the night wit…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 09:10 PM
2

Take a minute and think about why you considered it a handicap...were those your feelings because the night shift was interfering with your goals and mission, or was it because you had been conditioned to think that way by her, society, etc?
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 05:41 PM
2

Sounds like both of you work different shifts? I assume you're on the night shift? If so, man, what a perfect opportunity to implement DREAD! I mean,fix the other shit the guys mentioned too, but you come and go at odd hours by default, so you can very easily tweak your habits to condition your availability to her. Hard no in the evening? Leave early and go lift before work, or just leave early and say you have to run some "errands". Or, if you usually see her in the morning, go lift after your …
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 02:41 PM
3

Agreed...I've had good success with the following sequence: 1)short chuckle 2) smirk at her like she made a lame ass joke 3) change subject. A rudimentary version of AM perhaps...but it works. She's testing and probing to see if any of those past beta soft spots are still sensitive. Don't give this any more attention than absolutely necessary and move on. If you have an elaborate plan to handle this stuff, it almost always backfires because it shows you cared enough about it to prepare a defense…
/r/askMRP12/01/17 02:24 PM
1

"Things happen to a Beta man. An Alpha man happens to the world." Solid shit right there.
/r/askMRP10/01/17 11:11 PM
1

You've got a lot to internalize, but that's ok because we all had to start this journey...you are already so far in her frame you aren't even aware of just how far. Case in point- when I said plan with your wife...you assumed I meant plan around her schedule. What I really meant was more like this- YOU decide what activities you want to do as a family, establish a schedule and work out basic logistics (timeline, budget, etc), then sit her down one evening and lay out your awesome plans for the s…
/r/askMRP10/01/17 09:52 PM
1

1)"Well, I have not planned my OUR summer yet." There is your problem right there. Lead. Take ownership of your family's activities this summer. You need to plan the summer FOR your family WITH your wife. 2)"You have your plans, fine. Kids and I will be doing x at y. And we'll be there two weeks. No, we won't drive home a day early for you. You can take a bus/train/plane. Have fun." This is the most passive aggressive, butt hurt thing you could possibly do and will make her vag dry up and shrive…
/r/askMRP10/01/17 09:29 PM
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4) Dude, this is not how you use dread. Dread isn't a sniper, Dread is a shotgun....you apply it all over your life or not at all. You can't select what situation dread will effect, it has to be spread evenly over every aspect of your life. It is strategic, not tactical.
/r/askMRP10/01/17 09:10 PM
2

Ok, well if that is indeed the circumstance- then personally, I'd have zero problems inviting the hot co-worker or fitness hottie and go have a great time. You made plans, she bailed out. Here is the thing though- don't make a big deal out of who you take. If she asks, just say something vague like, "a friend from [where ever]" and change the subject. Making her wonder creates dread, rubbing her face in the fact you took the gym hottie creates resentment. You could also go solo. Whatever. Just b…
/r/askMRP10/01/17 09:06 PM
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I see two problems: 1)Covert contract- you bought tickets and assumed that she would be your excited and willing date. 2)Failure to lead- You bough the tickets but evidently didn't follow up by leading and making the arrangements for all the logistics and then confirming she was on board with your plans. You assumed. Never assume. She can't find anyone to go to U2? Perfect. Here is your chance to pull her back into your frame. Sell your concert plans as fun and exciting- tell her you're going to…
/r/askMRP10/01/17 08:46 PM
1

How long have you been in this phase? Only 2 weeks? Suck it up...Initiate! The 'loss of attraction phase' has been a huge issue for me. In my case, it lasted several months. In fact, I'd still consider myself in this phase, just on the back side of it and almost past it. Remember, her perception of the former you lingers much longer than you expect it to...give her some time to get used to the new and improved you. Watch for signs of her beginning to default to your frame...those are the markers…
/r/askMRP02/01/17 07:00 PM
1

If you have other plates, then you probably have OI...that's the best way to deal with this. She will pick up on your OI and that should foster attraction and sexual tension. ...or, you could just say something like, "I bet we're the same height laying down"
/r/askTRP29/12/16 10:19 PM
2

"wrapping themselves in that cloak of hamster fur." That's good shit right there...the mental image alone made me chuckle.
/r/askMRP29/12/16 07:30 PM
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First, go here: https://thefamilyalpha.com/ Read it all...his stuff is written for guys like you. Second, spend some time improving yourself and develop some abundance mentality...even if you have no 'plans' of fooling around, just knowing that you could will boost your confidence and she will sense that. Women can literally sense that. Read up on Dread game. The BPP wrote an excellent book on it. Also, your assessment of your age/SMV is off too...Rollo contends that a man's SMV peaks in his mid…
/r/askMRP29/12/16 05:13 PM
3

Ask yourself, "What leadership qualities have I shown today?" If you have trouble thinking of several instances where you genuinely led or gave direction to her, or guided her on YOUR vision/mission of how YOU want your marriage to be, then work on that. Removing yourself only works if she sees you as a positive influence on her life.
/r/askMRP22/12/16 12:44 PM
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Have you read WISNIFG? Step 1- FOG! Step 2- Actions over words...get your shit together, or at least start getting better so she has less ammo. Do not point out where she is failing until your shit is airtight. In fact, it is always better to lead by example and not even have to verbally point things out...just set a standard you expect, and maintain it. She will notice.
/r/askMRP21/12/16 09:19 PM
5

" You're aiming for the moment just before what would've been a ruined orgasm. Requires practice - you will misfire at first. But if you get the timing right you'll induce a refractory period without losing your erection or will to bang." I discovered this trick over a decade ago...it takes some practice, but once you get the hang of it, you can really hammer away. Best advice I can offer is to go right up to that point of no return, maybe just a touch past, then pull out and hold a hard kegel w…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 08:06 PM
1

Agree 100%....one of the best ways to always be leading is to always have an opinion. It is a simple thing and easy to do, but makes a big impact.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/12/16 07:15 PM
1

Well, just remember...you can't control her but you can control you. Improve yourself relentlessly, develop abundance mentality by cultivating opportunities to be with other women (but not actually cheating), implement dread, and initiate every single time you want sex regardless of how you think she will feel. Read: No More Mr Nice Guy, Married Man Sex Life Primer, and Saving a Low Sex Marriage. She will either get on board or she won't...the name of the game here is to make better men. If she …
/r/MarriedRedPill15/12/16 04:06 AM
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Wow...that blew the lid right off. Fuck. This goes right to the heart of having abundance mentality...the only way you can truly have it is by cultivating those opportunities, not by just thinking you have them. Powerful stuff.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/12/16 07:30 PM
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"You do it because you need to. You need to know you did everything. A man doesn't back down. He doesn't take shortcuts. So when's its done...well and truly done you can say I went the distance. " Fucking Awesome! This applies to so many (if not all) aspects of a healthy masculine life. If you know you've truly satisfied yourself that you've done everything you should (whatever the endeavor)- it makes it so much easier to get up, brush yourself off, and move forward with confidence and no self d…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/12/16 03:44 PM
2

Tell me if any of these sound familiar: she doesn't seem to care about your sexual satisfaction, never overtly initiates, non-sexual physical affection is rare(if ever), when sex happens it is starfish, she's cold to kino, the 10 second kiss is difficult, you've voiced your concern over lack of sex, she doesn't seem interested in your daily activities. If most of those are true, then she's way too comfortable. I was there...heck, I'm still working on some of those issues. You MUST shake things u…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/12/16 03:25 PM
4

You don't say anything...You get her in the position YOU want, you reach back behind her head, grab a handful of hair near the scalp, grasp firmly, and take her to pound town. Take her how you want for as long or as short as you want. Finish when YOU are ready. Pull out, slap her on the ass and go about your day. If she only has the motivation to give you sub standard sex, then you shouldn't worry about meeting her standards...satisfy yourself.
/r/askMRP13/12/16 02:46 PM
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Yeah, I deal with this too...and it sucks trying to go to sleep after summoning up the motivation to initiate (especially when she's totally non responsive to prior kino/game/etc) and then getting shot down. My only bit of advice on this is don't wait until bed time to initiate...that way if she declines, you can go do your own thing (lift). If bedtime is the only free time you have (this is my case frequently due to after work activities), then you just have to adopt an attitude of, "Fuck it, I…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/12/16 02:03 PM
3

BPP (BluepillProfessor) devotes a tremendous amount of time to marriage dread game in his book. Don't confuse plate spinning with active dread...think of it more as 'catch and release'.
/r/askMRP12/12/16 09:41 PM
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What level of DREAD are you at currently? ...try upping that a few notches. The ultimate outcome of dread game is that either she's fucking you or someone else is. That, and initiate whenever the fuck you want sex...you need to do that to set the expectation that you desire a certain level of intimacy...dread works better when she KNOWS you expect sex. Don't fear the inevitable rejections...just keep initiating and upping the dread game.
/r/askMRP12/12/16 08:30 PM
2

Maybe this is poor etiquette, but I'm going to link a couple of posts I recently made...things that took me a long time to realize. I think you may see some value, and I would like to hear your thoughts. I hope you realize the error of not initiating...I've been there before too, and its not a smart choice. I recently made a post about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/5f8lkl/acknowledge_your_fear_of_rejection_and_crush_it/ I also totally understand the issues with trying to…
/r/askMRP11/12/16 10:58 PM
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I struggle with this with my LTR sometimes...Remember, she isn't afraid of your emotions, why should you be afraid of hers? I've found it's best to choose your battles, but when she really disrespects you on a fundamental level...call her out on that shit!... let her know you don't expect her to treat you like that. ...or, STFU, say something like, "We can discuss this when you're ready to act like an adult" and leave the room, house, county, whatever...just leave.
/r/askMRP11/12/16 10:38 PM
2

Excellent perspective on another great post!
/r/MarriedRedPill11/12/16 02:35 PM
3

Glad you found value in the post! Ha! Yep, I recall the first time I tried going caveman...half caveman, total failure. She saw right through it. It didn't really click for me until I reached that point of being so angry and fed up with shitty sex that I had no care whatsoever about her pleasure. That time I saw results. That's when the proper attitude became apparent. You really have to channel something deeper or more intense to get a feel for the right way to do this. Once you get it, however…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/16 02:25 PM
1

I agree- this is an important point. I spent a lot of time working on myself first (see the post I linked) before I felt prepared to try this. Thank you for the insight!
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/16 11:08 PM
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She bluffed, you called her on it...I've had the exact same test happen to me. Having OI was the very best thing you could have done. You passed. If you keep improving and demonstrate increasing value then you shouldn't expect to see this test again...if she makes a habit out of it, then you need to have a good hard look at yourself and what standards you're accepting from her. Congrats on holding frame through that.
/r/askMRP05/12/16 03:21 PM
1

Excellent way to sum this up.
/r/askMRP05/12/16 12:27 PM
1

Yes, those are the things I was thinking of...withdrawing time/attention/presence. There are lots of ways to enforce a boundary...a line in the sand nuke is on one extreme, on the other is jumping dread game from passive to active or withdrawing time. She just needs to feel some consequence for violating the boundary...how big of a consequence is up to you, and is usually determined by the nature of the infraction.
/r/askMRP05/12/16 12:25 PM
2

Is your body fat under 15%? Do you even know? Shit, if you treat your wife like you treat all of us, she's probably glad you aren't talking to her...you're missing the forest for the trees man. All theses guys are telling you the truth and you've decided you don't like it so you just post butt hurt passive aggressive vomit.
/r/askMRP05/12/16 01:01 AM
1

If the man's value is that low, then he needs to work on improving himself (always improving)...but yes, if you feel strongly enough about something that you set a boundary, you need to be prepared to enforce it. Preferably by not nuking the relationship. There are some good steps outlined in the BBP's book. I recommend it.
/r/askMRP05/12/16 12:54 AM
1

You can't 'silent treatment' your way out of the hole you dug... Dude, do you even lift?
/r/askMRP04/12/16 10:52 PM
1

Abundance mentality.
/r/askTRP04/12/16 10:48 PM
1

Get out of her frame...if she did something that you were not happy with, then set the boundary. State clearly, "In the future, I do not want you to toss my stuff without talking to me first." Whining for an apology is butt hurt. Just remember, if you set a boundary, be prepared to enforce it...because she will test it.
/r/askMRP04/12/16 10:36 PM
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Mother or lover...choose one.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/12/16 03:30 AM
2

"Women initiate very subtlely, a look, a wiggle of the ass. Keep your eyes open." This is solid advice, and based on my past relationship experience it rings true...however, the current LTR is different. This one singular thing has been one of my biggest obstacles after swallowing the RP. Early on in the relationship I could read the subtle signs...then those just went away. I've strained my eyes, and ears to pick up on the most subtle of clues...maybe during ovulation I can faintly see them, bu…
/r/MarriedRedPill02/12/16 06:29 PM
1

Excellent advice. There is a lot of weight carried in the subtlety of that distinction. Dovetails perfect with what the BPP talks about in his book when he discusses the difference between withdrawing your attention vs. withdrawing your presence.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/12/16 03:13 PM
1

We always called it the Propagation of Error...same concept though, and you are spot on with the correlation.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/11/16 08:34 PM
1

Excellent post...great reminder to 'Get comfortable with discomfort', and not fall into the trap of letting our emotional reactive response override our logical thinking response. This is easier said than done...especially when just beginning.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/11/16 08:31 PM
1

Thank you for posting that link!
/r/MarriedRedPill30/11/16 08:18 PM
2

"Remember, falacio is a mate guarding technique women employ. The best blow jobs I've gotten in my life came from women who felt they were losing me." ...Can confirm this to be true. Never made the connection before reading your post though. Interesting observation.
/r/askMRP29/11/16 12:22 PM
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This right here OP. Understand the difference.
/r/askMRP29/11/16 03:12 AM
1

This is 100% correct. I recall a period pre-RP where my relationship was at an all time low and it corresponded to a bad period at work. I was venting my problems to her and it wrecked her attraction to me. It's crazy how much eliminating that one bad habit improved things.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/16 07:44 PM
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Interesting observation. Maybe the reason this worked so well for the OP is that he essentially laid down some firm boundaries where there had been none before?
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/16 04:29 PM
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"No need to get butt hurt because her hamster will spin into overdrive until we fuck." ...exactly! I've discovered that when you initiate a lot, you may still get shot down much more than you'd like, but it sets the expectation for her that you want sex that much. So, when she gives a hard "No" and you are able to truly act OI it spins the crap out of the hamster and shes wondering why her denial isn't affecting you the way it used to.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/16 12:04 PM
2

You're welcome...best of luck!
/r/askTRP18/11/16 11:00 PM
1

Have you read MMSL? If not, do so...if you have, refresh yourself on his chapter about ILYBINILWY.
/r/askTRP18/11/16 07:51 PM
4

"she DID initiate last night by saying "do you want me to have sex with you."" This is a huge step if she has never initiated in the past or used to initiate but stopped... Congrats, you're on the right path. Remember, it's a marathon not a sprint. I feel the same way sometimes about her making it sound like a chore but...The answer to that question is always "yes"...and if she gives you the starfish, give her the caveman.
/r/askMRP18/11/16 04:03 PM
1

This tactic for dealing with the silent treatment has worked well for me also...biggest thing to remember is you have to push thru the bitchiness barrier with a positive attitude and not stop...give up and you risk looking weak and she knows she can break your future attempts to use this technique.
/r/askMRP17/11/16 09:23 PM
1

This is spot on- just remember OP that 'unattractive' is both physical and mental. I didn't make that connection until I spent some time reading the side bar and getting advice from guys on here. Physically, I was good, but kino didn't really start paying off until I got the attitude component fixed (or at least headed in the right direction...still improving)
/r/askMRP16/11/16 04:28 PM
2

...and remember to push 'select' before 'start', since kino is a two player game.
/r/askMRP16/11/16 04:18 PM
2

Having a 'walk away' plan is good...but remember to have a plan in place to escalate if she doesn't flake. If a woman truly has the desire to sleep with you, she will find a way to make it happen. What I mean, is this- if she's interested in a physical relationship, you should be able to escalate things fairly quickly at this point. You should always be escalating. If she's standoffish physically, but still demands your time and attention...Next.
/r/askTRP16/11/16 03:41 PM
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Are you sure she isn't comfort testing? Maybe she's concerned about the wall and is probing your perception of the relationship in regards to the age difference?
/r/askTRP16/11/16 01:56 AM
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Shes trying to make you an orbiter. Giving just enough attention and physical play to keep you interested. Remember, there are no mixed messages... Pay attention to what she does, not what she says. She's flaked on you twice. Your time is valuable- do not accept that level of disrespect.
/r/askTRP16/11/16 01:49 AM
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Never try and respond logically or use reason on an emotional female...it won't go your way, ever. You have to let the emotional storm run its course. Her emotions are how she processes things. Unfortunately, politics are emotional steroids...so lots of us are dealing with this. Be her oak, hold frame, enforce your boundaries...it will pass.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 04:03 PM
1

" No woman should ever define you or help you" Can you please elaborate on the last part of this? I'm with you on the defining part, but you lost me when you say that a woman should never help you. My understanding is that its OK to let them help and support you/your mission so long as you don't ask for it, act needy, or use them as a crutch. Actually, wouldn't unsolicited help and support from your LTR be an indication she was in your frame?
/r/askMRP11/11/16 02:15 PM
1

The first part of this is excellent advice...I think the latter half may be too much though. I'd say that it's better to be confident in your beliefs, have a solid frame...and then let her decide if she wants to come along on your ride. She may just be testing his frame. If he has solid frame/confidence in his beliefs she may find that attractive enough that she overlooks the fact they disagree on the subject.
/r/askTRP10/11/16 03:00 PM
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I've been several years in this situation with my LTR. Whatever you do, don't 'hide' your views...that puts you in her frame or puts her views on a pedestal above/more important than yours. Make her aware of your views and opinions, but do not get dragged into debates...don't DEER. Remember- logical discussion/argument with women is a waste of time. They respond emotionally, and politics are emotions on steroids. I learned this the hard way prior to TRP.
/r/askTRP10/11/16 02:41 PM
1

Ratio and proportion are way more important than size. Regardless of height, the most important thing a guy can do for his looks is work on getting his shoulder width to waist ratio right. An ideal ratio is 1.5 : 1 or better. This corresponds to the golden ratio. For example, if your waist is 16" across, your shoulders should be 24" across. Obviously, some body shapes may limit how close you can get to this ratio but remember, you don't have to hit it exactly...just get close enough to look prop…
/r/askTRP10/11/16 02:27 PM
2

Like others have said- you should initiate. What I haven't seen in the comments, though, is the observation that if you are doing 80% of the initiating, then she must be doing the other 20%. The fact she is initiating at all is worth noting. You are giving her enough tingles to get her to initiate that 20%. I've experienced LTRs ranging from nymphos that would wake me up at night for it, to others where she never overtly initiates. The latter is my current LTR and this took some serious adjustme…
/r/askMRP09/11/16 09:05 PM
1

Depending upon content, you may have accidentally implemented some dread...just remember to hold frame if a shit/comfort storm erupts.
/r/askTRP26/10/16 01:59 PM
1

In my experience anything that is out of the ordinary routine is a good bet...be unpredictable. Unpredictable is almost always, by default, fun for women. Bonus points if you choose an activity where you can demonstrate mastery of some skill and teach her something new. If you usually Netflix and chill on sunday afternoon, take her hiking instead.
/r/askMRP25/10/16 11:52 PM
1

No, not at all...The physical component is off the table right now, which is why I'm asking for advice on how to remain mentally dominant of the situation while being forced to assume a physically weaker position. I think this could be a great learning experience...if...I do it right.
/r/askMRP25/10/16 05:22 PM
1

Agreed- Tarzan doesn't have to show up every time...but if I initiate, then I'm going to have to coach her into taking a more active role that she usually doesn't want to take...that is mainly where I'm asking for advice. To your point on foreplay- good suggestion, will apply more effort there.
/r/askMRP25/10/16 03:26 PM
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