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DiscussionCrafty_Letter_1719/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:31 AM
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Everybody has a “sexual prime”. This doesn’t mean everybody experiences an abundance of sexual attention. Just that everybody has a period in their life that they are the most sexually attractive they will ever be-whether they capitalise on it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:06 PM
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In 10 years neither gender will dominate “every single prestigious career”. AI will. Which will have its own implications for relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:04 AM
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20 years is a long time when it comes to technological advancements. If AI continues to develop at its current rate than chances are we will be living in a world where VR sex will be completely indistinguishable from real sex. The only difference will be that every person will have access to their dream sexual partner simply by firing up a VR headset. The ramifications of this will be massive as the vast majority of men will lose interest in pursuing not only relationships but even casual sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:04 PM
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This is of course true of both genders. The more options you have the less likely you are going to “settle”. The main difference though is that the top 20 percent of guys with countless sexual options( like the majority of average woman) aren’t vocally complaining about not being able to find any good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:16 AM
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The vast majority of men aren’t capable of hook ups regardless of if they mean something to them or not. The vast majority of woman are absolutely capable of nothing but no strings casual sex but very few actually engage in this behaviour because it goes against female nature. This is not to say there aren’t a lot of very promiscuous woman. Just that’s it’s very rare they simply use men for sex and nothing else. Even woman that regularly engage in casual sex very rarely just fire up Tinder, choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:10 PM
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A woman with no profile picture on a dating site will still get more interest than the average guy. If any woman is single but says she wants to be in a relationship see simply has unrealistic standards as to who she can attract. She is however never invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:42 PM

This is no different than the majority of men being attracted to the same type of Women. I.E youthful, slim, good looking woman. Just because men have much lower standards then women when it comes to who they are willing to sleep with doesn’t mean they are not generally most attracted to the same type of women. It’s not like there is a big debate between whether most men find Margo Robbie more attractive than Lizzo. Woman might live on easy street if all they care about is getting laid but if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:03 PM
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Don’t most men want to date a partner that is more physically attractive than they are? Attraction is not about finding the most equal match it’s about simply being attracted to whatever you find most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:29 PM
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Hook up culture simply isn’t feasible for “average men”. The only way for “average men” to get persistent casual sex is to pay for it or to pursue woman that are very below average. As soon as a man can get persistent casual sex he seizes to be average. This doesn’t mean he has to be above average in looks just that he has to be above average in something. Be it wealth. Status. Personally. Intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:13 PM
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70 percent of divorces are initiated by Woman. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:39 AM
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Marriage is an antiquated institution that will likely no longer exist for the vast majority of society once women start out earning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:28 PM

Human beings( both men and woman) are often contradictory and even hypothetical about lots of things related to relationships and sexual attraction. This is a bit like saying most woman are anti-sanitation worker because a large section of woman would be put off dating a garbage collection man even though he arguably does the most valuable job in all of society. As with most things related to dating and attraction; men and women’s preferences are usually dictated by evolutionary biology rather t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:37 PM

It’s a controversial but not a completely unreasonable take to believe feminism has had a detrimental effect on a large portion of male society. Given though that society is both male and female that’s not the same thing as believing that feminism has had a net negative effect on society in general. You’ll probably find few women that think they would be better off going back to living under patriarchal rule and essentially being forced into marriage simply to survive. What is more nuanced and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:26 PM

It’s not controversial to say “Woman really don’t like most men sexually”. This is simply true broadly speaking. However there is a lot more nuance than the lesbian pornography consumption stats imply. Firstly; men and women have very different libidos and arousal responses in general. Men are much much hornier and are prominently visual when it comes to sexual desire. Woman are both visual and cerebral-with the emphasis on the cerebral unless the man is exceptionally attractive. This is why men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:43 AM
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“But they are not certainly less horny than men”. Not true. Practically every study done on libido conclude men(on average) are indeed significantly hornier than women. This is completely consistent with the massive disparity in testosterone levels and evolutionary mating strategies. On average a woman produces 500 eggs in her lifetime and if she is particularly fertile might be able to have 20 children. On average a man produces 85 million new sperm cell per day( yes per day) and can theoretica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:48 PM
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You’ve chosen literally the most famous woman on the entire planet to act as a stand in for the average woman. Not a great example but we’ll run with it. Nobody is saying woman are destined to remain partnerless post 30. Any woman with a pulse(regardless of if they are a random plain Jane or Taylor Swift) will have countless causal sex and relationship options right up to when she is planning her funeral from her nursing home. There are a hell of a lot of guys looking for partners to go around. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:19 AM
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It might be absurd but no more or less then telling woman that their standard of only dating a man with certain “high value” traits is absurd. At the end of the day anybody is only as attractive as what they can actually attract. If a man wants to be in a relationship but he is only attractive enough to get interest from single mothers then he either better accept single mothers are in his future… or he’ll likely remain single. It’s not absurd for somebody to point this out. It’s just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:26 PM
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There will always be an army of white knights on the internet claiming it’s perfectly possible( and something that should be encouraged) for men to have completely platonic relationships with woman. In the real world however-where most men are so horny they would sleep with anything with a pulse-it’s pretty ridiculous to envision a scenario where a single heterosexual guy can have a female best friend that he has zero sexual attraction to. He’ll shamefully bang a fleshlight to Taylor Swift deepf…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:00 PM

As the famous saying goes “there are no victors in war”. We are not as this post implies heading for some dystopian matriarchy where men live in quiet servitude of woman revelling in the spoils of war. What we are actually heading towards is a gender segregated society where men and woman simply no longer interact in any meaningful fashion. Artificial wombs and AI Girlfriends will in fact be massive contributor to this. OP is correct in his assertion that woman currently don’t feel threatened by…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:03 PM
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Because most women have countless romantic options and therefore it’s very difficult to remain satisfied with somebody that can be immediately replaced by the swipe of the finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:24 PM
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Unfortunately feminism has just become a euphemism for misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:44 PM
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Fair enough. I guess you’ve finally solved the issue for anybody that isn’t conveniently attractive but has a desperate desire to date a super model. Just get a medical degree! Hopefully everybody on this sub will take this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 08:24 PM
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Just because somebody is a doctor doesn’t automatically mean they will have their pick of woman. Sure it will help dramatically in the dating market in general but it’s not automatically going to mean you’re attracting models. It’s just not enough of a rare profession. Unless you’re a brain or plastic surgeon you’re not making super attractive women wet simply by virtue of graduating medical school. You’re certainly not going to be out competing an extremely handsome and charming chad teacher ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:20 PM
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Who said they do poorly in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:58 PM
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I’m sure there are lots of 5 foot 6 doctors that do very well. They certainly don’t “have their pick of woman” though. The point is that to have your “pick of woman” you either need to be a complete Adonis… or you have to possess an exceptional amount of status. Status to a guy is absolutely more important than physical attributes…but only when it reaches an absurdly high level. There is a tipping point when somebody that looks like Ed Sheeran becomes a more desirable than an extremely handsome …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:24 AM
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Status is pretty much the most attractive trait a guy can possess. Crucially however it only trumps being very conventionally attractive if your status is exceptionally high. Really high. A physically unattractive guy like Ed Sheeran or Elon Musk is going to have a lot greater chance of dating a Victoria Secrets model than a very handsome but broke plumber…because they have a ridiculous amount of status. However an average looking 5 foot 6 doctor or lawyer earning a high 6 figure salary is still…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:54 PM
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As the cliche goes; most men are only as faithful as his options. The truth is men are not designed for monogamy. Men are sexual variety seeking creatures due to biological evolution. After all a man can father literally thousands of children throughout his life time if he has enough partners. Committing to one person does not make sense from a biological point of view. Of course the vast majority of men are not anywhere near attractive enough to have multiple partners and so are grateful for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:55 PM
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Nobody(male or female) should feel “bitter” about not being able to acquire their ideal romantic life. That’s like feeling “bitter” about not being a billionaire or a movie star or playing in the NBA. The problem is many people do indeed feel bitter and entitled about not winning the lottery of life- to the detriment of enjoying what they do have or what they can (realistically) expect given their objective level of attractiveness. In the context of dating and relationships; social media, porn a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:53 PM
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“You didn’t say players, you said men”. OP said players. I said most men want to be players but aren’t attractive enough to be players. There is a big difference to wanting to be something and actually being that thing. As such woman shouldn’t go after the small percentage of men attractive enough to be players…and than be surprised that they are…er…players. To be clear I am not saying woman shouldn’t go after these men in general. Go after whoever you want. Just that even if you’re a supermodel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:54 AM
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No. Woman shouldn’t partner or cohabitate with( as per OP’s question) “players” and expect them to be monogamous. That’s why they are players. The vast majority of men aren’t players. Far from it. They might fantasise about being players but 90 percent of Men aren’t capable of keeping a “harem” of woman. The problem is it’s this 10 percent of very attractive men with countless options that woman are deluded into thinking they can make commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:03 AM
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Men are novelty seeking creatures when it comes to sex. That’s why even A-list actresses and Super models get cheated on by their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:41 PM
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Men are more likely to leave their sick partners but woman are much more likely to leave their partners in general-initiating 80 percent of divorces. All this tells us is that certain men and woman have different thresholds for what constitutes the breaking point of a relationship. Is leaving your husband because you’re bored, he loses his job or he plays too much video games better or worse than leaving your wife because she has become sick and you don’t want to spend your days caring for her? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:20 PM

If anything the notion of “sex bots” being a threat to civilisation is underplayed because people still find it difficult to actually imagine a technology that is indistinguishable from the real thing. They still think Fleshlight running off ChatGP. We will though eventually reach a point where “sex bots” are not only indistinguishable from the real thing they are…and here’s the important part…much more sexually desirable than the real thing. At this point it’s very unlikely the average Joe is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:00 AM
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“How do you know for sure that women aren’t as horny as men?” Mainly the hundreds of scientific studies that conclude men are hornier than women. Partly because I am a human being with at least moderate critical thinking abilities. Do you think Men and Woman are also just as violent as each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:15 PM
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If Woman were hornier than men society as we know it would completely crumble as it would spell the end of monogamy. The average woman has the sexual options of a male celebrity. If all she was interested in was casual sex she could quite easily fire up tinder and have a different partner-who is objectively more attractive than her-every single night of the week. Despite many men being obsessed about how promiscuous modern woman are there are very few woman on the planet( that aren’t sex workers…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:39 AM
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Definitely more men. House husbands might exist out of necessity but women certainly don’t find them attractive. Even high flying career minded woman are still hardwired to look for providers. It’s simply a result of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. It’s also why there is still an expectation for a guy to pay for a date even if the woman is better off than him financially. Now of course this goes both ways to an extent. Men are also hardwired by evolution to want to be the provider. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:20 PM

Given the amount of paternity fraud in the world; paternity testing should be mandatory at birth. As that will probably never happen than any man with even the slightest suspicion about his partners trustworthiness should absolutely get tested in secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:25 PM

Men don’t need to “pass down this wisdom”. Male aversion to promiscuous woman is simply hardwired into them through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution as a means to protect themselves against paternity fraud. Men finding promiscuously in woman a turn off is just as inherent as woman finding tall men a turn on. It’s an involuntary biological instinct and that will take many thousands of years to evolve away from regardless of modern social mores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:11 PM
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“Is promiscuity natural in women?” Of course it is. Same with men-only more so. Anything that occurs in nature is “natural”. Rape is “natural” and there probably isn’t a single person on this thread that would exist today if it hadn’t occurred to somebody in their family tree at some point in history. Sure doesn’t make rape a good thing though and it’s something most societies have created laws against in an attempt to civilise and socialise people away from their primal instincts. Same is true …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:17 PM
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Interesting post. Yes; you’re correct the current iteration of AI companions will ultimately appeal more to woman than to men as they are much more cerebral in terms of how they consume sexual and romantic content. Sexbots and VR sex though will almost certainly be much more male centric-just like current porn. It will be fascinating to she how long it takes for this shift to occur and for woman to start adapting AI companions at a greater rate than men and if there will be the same double stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:56 PM
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The idea that given the choice most men would “date” woman between the ages of 18-25 has nothing to do with Hollywood trends. It’s simple biology. There have been countless scientific studies showing that this is the age range that men across the world and of all ages find most sexually attractive. Just google it if you don’t want to take my word for it. Regardless of how uncomfortable this might make many people it’s perfectly logical from an evolutionary standpoint as it is between these ages …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:41 PM
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Most people don’t date in terms of what makes most “biological sense”. People date in terms of what is most available to them. Men love woman of all ages because…well…men love woman. Or at least they love putting their genitals inside of them. Given the choice though and most men( regardless of age) would date woman between the age of 18 and 25. Most men however don’t have the options of Leonardo Dicaprio and will take whatever they can get. This is why it’s so easy for an older woman to date yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:10 PM
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It might be trite but there really is somebody for everybody. Anybody who says they are looking for a relationship but finds themselves perpetually single simply has unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:25 PM
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You’re not wrong all. If the average man had the same sexual options as the average women they too would only pursue the most attractive women willing to sleep with them. In fact if the average man had the same options as the average women the likelihood of a man ever getting into a long term monogamous relationship would be a hell of a lot lower than the average women. Men complain about the modern women but they would act even “worse” if the tables were turned. The thing to remember though is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:21 PM
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“Think about how often you see a couple where there’s a below average man with a beautiful woman”. The thing is in relationships with the this dynamic that man is in no way below average once you take his looks out of the equation. For a physically unattractive men to attract a beautiful woman he’ll almost certainly be wealthy, smart, charming, funny, good in bed…or have some trait that sets him apart from the crowd. I.E he’s in no way(other than looks) below average in terms of what many women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:26 AM
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You’re not wrong that looked at objectively woman can engage in just as many “creepy” behaviours as men. As with most things related to sexual dynamics though double standards exist because men and woman are simply different biologically-and yes a lot of it does just come down to the male libido being so much greater than that of your average woman. You also have to remember that “creepiness” isn’t actually objective in any real sense because ultimately somebody being viewed as “creepy” is almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:44 AM
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Somebody could have an objectively successful career and bank balance but still struggle with dating for a number of reasons. Firstly there is a difference between being very well off and being truly rich- where by money is simply not an issue. In a day and age where women no longer rely on a man’s money for survival a low 6 figure salary is of course attractive-just no longer so attractive that it can completely compensate for everything else that might be lacking. Having a lot of money in term…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:52 PM
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What you are saying isn’t generally untrue. Most girls do have zero empathy for guys and male loneliness. However a lack of empathy isn’t exclusive to woman. It’s simply a human thing. The reason we live in such a cruel, uneven and poverty stricken world is because human beings by their nature are competitive and selfish and really don’t care about human suffering beyond those closes to them. Why would a random woman with her own struggles and desires care about a random guy who can’t get laid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:10 PM
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There are millions upon millions of good single men looking for good single woman. These man are not hard to find in the slightest. The problem is what “good” actually means. By good I mean, nice, decent, hard working people that would make excellent life partners. However this is is not what woman actually mean when they are talking about “good men”. By “good men” they mean attractive and financially successful men that are also looking to settle down into a monogamous relationship. Yeah, if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:51 PM
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According to Google the most common cited reason for divorce is the very nebulous sounding “lack of commitment”. All this really means is falling out of love. Makes sense. A relationship doesn’t have to fail because somebody cheated, or was abusive, or was a drug addict, or was just a just a bad person. More often than not it’s just a case of people discovering they don’t actually like partner very much now that the romantic novelty has begun to fade. Why then is it predominantly woman divorcing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:49 AM
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In general OP is right. It’s unfortunate but a man displaying vulnerability is a massive turn off for most woman. When a woman says she wants a guy to be more in touch with his emotions what she really means is she wants him to be more in touch with her emotions. Woman want strong and stoic men. That’s just the way it is. However there are circumstantial exceptions. Crying over the death of a loved one won’t cause most woman to lose respect for a guy. In fact if a guy is too emotionless at the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:06 AM
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I think any women that regularly goes out on first dates with the expectation that the guy will pay(which is probably the majority of women) is engaging in this to some extent. I don’t think it’s even a conscious thing for most women. It’s not like there are vast amounts of them out there actively planning there lives around never having to pay for a meal but I’m sure there are lots of women who go on dates thinking best case scenario I find my future husband. Worst case scenario I get a free me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:04 PM
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Of course Monogamy isn’t “natural”. Human being’s are novelty seeking creatures and men especially are hardwired to seek as many sexual partners as possible as this is the best mating strategy to pass on his DNA. Men after all can theoretically have thousands of children throughout his lifetime-but only if he has thousands of partners. Being faithful to one woman for a man’s entire life absolutely goes against his natural instincts. However a healthy society is built on human beings actively rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:03 PM
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Option Paralysis. Let’s face it. If the average guy also had the abundance of dating options as the average women there is very little chance he is ever committing to a single person unless they blow his expectations away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:49 PM
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Haha. Numpy. Not sure if you’re 14 or 84. There are more literal slaves( not the wage slaves your response implies) currently in the world than at the height of the Atlantic slave trade. Some of these people will certainly be forced into the sex industry. Most though are being forced into making products so people like you can insult people from behind their computer screens rather than engage in a civil ad hominem free discussion. As I said for the sake of this discussion I am taking about perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:47 PM
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Of course woman can still be attractive to men once she hits 30. She can even still be attractive to men once she hits 60. The point is she is unlikely to attract the same “calibre” of man post 30 than she would at her early twenties beauty peak. The Wall doesn’t mean a woman becomes unattractive. It just means she’ll never again be as attractive(in the eyes of the majority of men) as she was in her early twenties. This is why if a woman wants the best chance of finding the most attractive long …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:58 AM

It’s quite obvious that as more men experience sexless lives due to modern dating culture resentment towards women by those men will grow. It’s just human nature to resent what you desire if you can’t have it. The reason the rich are despised by so many is not because of a backlash against greed and inequality but simply because they are not rich themselves. A less straightforward question would be whether there has been a general rise or fall in women’s resentment towards men since the advent o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:02 PM
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Lol I somehow don’t think your husband is the most reliable person to discuss whether he would prefer a sexual relationship with a photo realistic AI Margo Robbie over his wife… Practically every man on the planet already uses porn( I’m afraid to say including your husband) so it’s no stretch at all to think VR Porn will become something more or less every man utilises in the future. The problem is it will be 1000 times more potent than porn because unlike porn in it’s current form it will be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:33 AM
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In terms of how technology is developing we’ll likely still be in the early transitional period between of AI/VR companions in ten years time. It will only have a dramatic impact on society and the current dating dynamic once VR is completely indistinguishable from the real thing-both visually and from a sensory perspective. This is still likely a couple of decades away but it’s almost certainly going to happen and when it does it will completely and utterly dwarf the social shift caused by onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:09 PM
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People tend to use the term “the wall” as the end point for a women’s beauty and sexual attractiveness but that’s not what it means at all. It simply means that practically all woman( in the eyes of heterosexual men) hit a physical attractiveness peak about their mid 20’s. This is not an “incel” revenge fantasy. This is the conclusion of numerous studies that show men universally, regardless of race, age or social status, find woman most sexually attractive between her late teens and mid twentie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:22 PM
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The average guy isn’t annoyed at the average woman who can easily obtain casual sex with attractive men-which is pretty much every average woman on the planet. The reality is average men would also only seek out the most attractive sexual partners available to them if they actually had the opportunity. Average men are only annoyed at average woman who very vocally bitch and moan about the lack of quality men available when they have limitless suitors. There is nothing wrong with a woman having “…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:39 AM
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Most Woman will have families because people that genuinely want to be in a relationship with a view to having children eventually realise that they have to compromise at some point. That’s why so many Woman hit there thirties and are suddenly desperate for the stable boring guy with a well paying job. This might not be ideal for Beta provider they eventually marry but it doesn’t mean there is ever going to an epidemic of childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:11 PM
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No. In all likelihood it won’t even be “paradise” for that very small subset of “low libido women who would rather be single” you describe. This is because they will still belong to the “woman class”. In a future where the vast majority of men suddenly have no sexual interest in the average woman the depressingly likely scenario( given mankind’s history) is woman will suddenly become second class citizens. This won’t lead to some genderless utopia where men and woman are suddenly judged on nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:00 AM
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The current generation of woman obviously couldn’t care less when it comes to men using AI girlfriends because these men are not even close to being on their romantic radars. It’s a very new technology and early adapters are already stigmatised as socially inept weirdo’s incapable of having “real” relationships. Let’s not forget though that just a couple of decades ago this was a pretty similar reaction to the advent of online dating. Now of course online dating is the complete norm and the fund…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:32 PM
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The reason a lot of “average woman” are not attracted to “average men” is because they can very easily get attractive men to sleep with them. This gives them a very understandable inflated sense of their own attractiveness. If your average guy could fire up tinder and pick out who he’s going to have sex with that night as easily as ordering pizza- you better believe he’s not going to think he’s in anyway “average”. In his mind he’ll very quickly start to see himself as Brad Pitt regardless of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:53 PM
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Most people(male or female) over estimate not only there attractiveness but most traits about themselves. We are all the main character in our own lives and as such see ourselves as multifaceted creatures with hidden depths rather than statistics. Nobody ever actually thinks they are “average” even when that’s exactly what the majority of us are. The general premise of the post is not wrong but it can equally be applied to woman-at least if you use the term “attractive” broadly and not just rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:41 AM
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Because human beings( and especially men given their evolutionary mating strategies) are novelty seeking creatures. Monogamy might be good for building families but it completely goes against general sexual desire. Aq
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:40 PM
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Woman are obviously going to choose the most physically attractive guy available to them for causal sex. The problem many woman face however is that the most attractive guy they can “obtain” for sex is very rarely the same guy they can get to commit to them with a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:05 PM
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There is no concerted drive to “bully” women into lowering their standards. Just like most women couldn’t care less about whether men as a whole are in relationships or not; men couldn’t care less about whether the average women ends up in the relationship she desires or chooses to remain single. All men are doing is pointing out how delusional many women are in terms of their relationship expectations and that it shows an extreme lack of self awareness to criticise your dating options(if you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:42 PM
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What you say is true. Marriage in this day and age serves no real practical purpose. Or at least the practical benefits of marriage(minor tax breaks ect…) are far outweighed by the likelihood of divorce and all the emotional and financial strain that comes with it. If you want to be in a long term monogamous committed relationship…be in a long term monogamous relationship. You really don’t need marriage for that. The reason marriage prevails is frankly because most woman are obsessed with weddin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:43 AM
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Most people( male or female) don’t believe they are average-even though most people absolutely are. That’s how averages work. There are of course a lot of people delusional about their attractiveness but even those with a decent level of self awareness usually think they are at least slightly above the “average”. Slightly better looking. Slightly more intelligent. Slightly more charismatic than they actually are. Of course the reason for this is that human beings are multifaceted and everybody i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:17 PM
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Woman have always been infantilised by society to a large extent and now a lot of woman seem to have latched onto the scientific notion that the human brain does not reach full maturity until the age 25. This is pretty inconvenient for them( and quite a conundrum) because science also tells us that a woman’s body is past it’s desirability /fertility peak by 25. What this shows us is that sexual and cerebral development are not the same thing however much people might want it to be. Unless these …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:36 PM
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You’ve answered your own question with “it’s how the world keeps going round”. There are 8 billion people on the planet. By definition most of those people are “average” within the context of whatever society they belong. That’s a hell of a lot of “average” people having sex and relationships and families. The people that truly struggle to find relationships are either particularly anti-social or simply have unrealistic standards. Although it’s something the vast majority of people are: being “a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:15 PM
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They shouldn’t. But marriage in this day and age is not a logical decision. In the past it was more or less a necessity if you wanted to cohabitate with your partner and start a family. Nowadays the taboo of starting a family without being married is all but gone-at least in the west. There are still a few practical benefits to marriage but the likelihood of divorce and it’s resulting fall out massively outweighs the benefits. You simply don’t need to be married to have a committed relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:17 PM
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Because the majority of woman still want children and a family
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:12 PM
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Because up until relatively recently men genuinely have had more autonomy then woman. Woman only got the right to vote a hundred years ago. Sure that’s a good 4 generations and systemic sexism(against women) is long gone from western society but certain cultural attitudes will take a lot longer to shift- if they ever do. Woman have and will likely always be infantilised by society. Woman and children first. Men go to war. Men are expected to protect and provide. Men do all the dangerous and unpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:57 AM
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Marriage(and especially a wedding) is definitely just a rites of passage for many women. It’s ultimately a status symbol rather than anything meaningful. Given how common place divorce is-and how its overwhelmingly initiated by Woman-divorce has also become somewhat of a rites of passage. Get engaged. Show off to friends. Big wedding. Show off to friends. Honeymoon. Show off to friends. Few years later get divorced because he plays too much video games and leaves the toilet seat up. Claim he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:37 AM
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Of course romantic literature reveals a lot about woman’s sexual preferences. But so does porn for men. It doesn’t mean anything in a real world sense though. Just like most men aren’t going to be attracting the beautiful slender 18 year old girls they are masturbating to; bored middle aged house wife’s are t going to be attracting 6 foot male model billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:54 PM
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Woman don’t necessarily want marriage more men. However they certainly want a wedding more than Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:50 PM
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When people talk about fashion and grooming and hitting the gym ect…it’s not about suddenly competing with those simply born with genetic advantages. Somebody who is well dressed and takes care of himself is not suddenly going toe to toe with Brad Pitt if he is also 5,3 and bald. It is just about maximising what you have- something the vast majority of people never do. Somebody who is short and not conventionally handsome might never look like a model. However somebody who is short and not conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:05 PM

This is a gender dynamics sub. It’s impossible to discuss anything pertaining to issues of gender if you can’t generalise. If every discussion simply ended in with…and every bodies different… conversation wouldn’t go very far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:33 AM
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Which ones in particular and why would men continue to perpetuate double standards against their interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:08 PM
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That’s like asking why would a woman marry young if when she is older she is just going to start lusting after more established and successful men then her husband? People get married(or enter into committed monogamous relationships) because at the time at least they are in love. Sometimes things work out and go the course. Sometimes they don’t. That’s life. Just because a man might eventually start “lusting” after younger more attractive woman doesn’t mean he actually has a chance with any of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:12 PM
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Because whether society wants to admit it or not sex(and by extension procreation) is woman’s greatest-and only- asset over men. It’s the only place they actuality have any power. If woman suddenly lost their control of the sexual market they would in effect become redundant within society at large. As such it’s little wonder so many woman see sex as something to be offered up as reward rather than just a mutually enjoyable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:07 PM
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The main reason Women are valued in society is their ability to give birth. If Woman, en mass, stopped giving birth than society would collapse and women would essentially become redundant with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:35 AM
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This is one of the most entertaining replies I have ever recieved on Reddit. Thank you very much and Godspeed my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:30 PM
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I am Scandinavian and have travelled and worked throughout much of Europe and America. While I would say Scandinavia is probably the most egalitarian and progressive part of the world it is false that it is a completely gender neutral society where certain gender mores(like the guy paying for first dates) have disappeared. Even if there is now somewhat of a societal expectation that a woman offers to goes halves…this is usually just performative and a man will still be judged as being cheap if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:02 PM
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While I agree with the general premise of the post it’s simply not true that splitting the bill is the social norm across Europe. Even in the most egalitarianism and gender neutral counties of Scandinavia there is still a social expectation for Men to foot the bill on the first date. Things may be more lop sided in the States but it’s certainly not an outlier by any means. I doubt there is a single country on the planet that doesn’t still have the expectation of the male as the provider despite …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:25 PM
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You’re right. There isn’t an iconic figurehead behind any kind of toxic female empowerment movement in the same way that Andrew Tate(and various others) have risen to such prominence. The question then is why is this? Is it because large pockets of male society are inherently misogynistic whereas misandry pretty much doesn’t exist in any meaningful numbers? If it doesn’t exist; why doesn’t it? Does this mean most average woman believe they have nothing to complain about and they have it better t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:11 PM
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Never heard a guy being “jealous” of a women’s ability to do sex work. Maybe he’s jealous of the 12 inch male porn star that gets to bang 18 year old models for a living but it’s very unlikely he’s jealous of the common sex worker sucking on a dozen different unwashed middle aged cocks every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:23 AM

Men’s hypercritical views on promiscuity is nothing new. Promiscuity is something woman have been shamed for since the dawn of civilisation…and probably even before that. There are only two important things to note about this never ending discussion. 1: We live in an age and society( if you’re in the west) where a woman’s body count is completely irrelevant in terms of how she is treated in life in general. Men have no control over who and how many people woman choose to sleep with so if you’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:29 PM
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You are absolutely right. Woman will still be greatly valued for their reproductive capabilities. This is the fundamental reason woman have always held certain privileges over (average) men. Even in a time when woman held no legal rights and lived in a genuine patriarch; average men have always been seen as the disposable gender because it’s woman that bear children. Hence woman and children first, men going to war, men doing all the dangerous dirty jobs ect… However the advent of Matrix level V…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:19 PM
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There will be. The difference is that women at large losing their sexual hold over the majority of the male population will cause a complete paradigm shift in society-and it’s unlikely to be good for the average women. How do you think most men will view most woman in society if they are no longer see them as having sexual value? Maybe this will lead to true parity and men and woman will simply exist as human beings. Let’s hope so. More likely though is that women( when taken off their sexual pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:33 PM
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If there is an imbalance in terms of the give and take in a “platonic” relationship then that relationship is probably not very platonic in the first place. The stereotype of the male orbiter exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:09 AM
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What’s your definition of a “mediocre option” on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:45 PM
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People regularly on any sub or forum created around identity politics are likely not happy with life in general and looking for a tribe to share their grievances. Misery loves company and all that. This goes for men and woman of all races, sexual orientations and political affiliations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:24 AM
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Men and Woman are as hypergamous as each other when it come to sexual partners. The only reason this trait seems to be more attributed towards woman is that they generally have much more of an opportunity to act upon it. If a man is causally dating a plain Jane and suddenly a super model is interested in him he’s almost certainly going to “trade up”. The likelihood that an average man ever finds himself in this situation though is so unlikely that it’s almost not worth mentioning. A plain Jane t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:21 PM
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I think you should read back your response and than look up irony in the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:13 PM
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Who is saying people don’t get married because of love? People also get into committed relationships because of love. People than get divorced( or break up) because they fall out of love. And? The point is “love” becomes less of a defining factor to marriage when the possible consequences of marriage( and divorce) become equally spilt. We will soon see a paradigm shift in woman( who I think we can all agree are predominantly responsible for keeping the whole wedding industry afloat) suddenly bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:10 PM
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Why can’t you have a stable family in a monogamous committed relationship? How does marriage contribute to stability when it is so easy to get divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:44 PM
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Generally speaking most couples are looks matched. There is the stereotype of the unattractive guy with the attractive trophy wife but this is only really evident when you move up into the upper echelons of society and men actually have the money and status to attract these type of woman. This definitely exists but is not the world most people mix in. For the most part average people are generally in relationships with people of similar attractiveness levels as relationships generally don’t deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:14 AM
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Probably not. Most woman still want families and although the technology is available for a woman to create one without a man it is simply not practical or desirable to do so for most woman. While most average women can easily attract men out of there physical league for casual sex they certainly can’t attract attract that same genetically blessed man to actually mate with them. Unless we reach a state where men are no longer required to provide for their children; no Chad is willingly impregnat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:26 PM
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Like the majority of attraction triggers it is evolutionary and built into most woman’s DNA.If a guy has status it generally means he has resources. Either material resources or influence over other people. It’s not difficult to work out why this would be deeply attractive to Woman looking for a mate to build a family with. Even in a post industrial age when Woman have the same employment opportunities as Men and are protected by society at large rather then by individual males-she is still inhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:31 AM
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That you have to caveat Woman desiring sex as much as Men- but only with the “right person” undermines the notion that the average male and female libido are in anyway comparable. Men-in general- are clearly hornier than woman. This is due to having significantly higher testosterone levels and also the vastly different evolutionary mating strategies between the genders. From a procreation standpoint; Women have evolved to be as selective as possible in terms of their sexual partners. Quality ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:38 PM
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All successful relationships are about “settling”to some degree. Even the most attractive people on the planet are not with their “perfect” marriage partner because perfect doesn’t exist. With this in mind I would say a large percentage of women are likely marrying men that they are not rampantly attracted to. This though is hardly unexpected. Marriage is not about sex and romance. It’s an intuition that predominantly exists to foster the creation of families in the most stable environment possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:25 AM
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It doesn’t matter if you are “above average” or “below average”, the only people who struggle with dating( from every level of objective attractiveness) are those whose relationship expectations and standards are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:39 PM
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If you’re a heterosexual male with a normal libido of course you like Woman. In fact you love woman. However if you can’t obtain the thing you desire the most it can very easily turn into resentment. Which is pretty much Incel culture in a nutshell. Maybe a more pointed question would be; do guys even like Woman if you completely removed the sexual component? The depressing answer is probably not. This is not to say they would hate them. Just that they would suddenly become largely indifferent t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:24 PM
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When Men say Woman have it easier than Men when it comes to dating what they really mean is Woman have it easier than Men when it comes to obtaining casual sex with people they are physically attracted to. This is undoubtedly true. The important distinction to make though is that unlike most Men; Woman are not that interested in sex alone. Most Men would absolutely love to wield the power most Woman have in the “dating” world. I.E the ability to regularly and with little effort to hook up for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:26 PM
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TIL Jason Mamoa equals Dad bod 😂🤦‍♂️😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:29 PM
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It’s impossible to discuss gender dynamics( which is essentially what this sub is about) without speaking in generalities. Of course every human being is a multifaceted individual and there is nuance to everything but you don’t need to qualify that every time you are trying to have a broad discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:20 PM
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The phenomenon of White Men generally finding Asian Women very sexually desirable but White Woman generally finding Asian men the least sexually desirable ethnicity( according to studies) is not very difficult to work out. Men( as a generalisation) are very attracted to feminine, petite, Woman. Both culturally and physically; Asian Woman tend to display very stereotypically feminine traits. Woman(as a generalisation) are very attracted to stereotypically masculine Men. They want big tall, domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:09 PM
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As with so many gender comparisons in this sub the whole Men age like fine wine and Woman age like milk cliche is only applicable to a tiny percentage of the male population. Namely the ultra attractive. 5 percent of the population at most. It’s true that Woman( in the eyes of most heterosexual men) hit their “hotness” peak by the time she reaches her mid twenties. This is not a subjective statement but one backed up by numerous studies. An attractive Man however might not hit his “hotness” peak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:40 PM
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What do you think are the fundamental differences between “Female Nature” and “Male Nature”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:23 AM
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It’s very easy to flip this and list a lot of traditionally male interests that would feel “really cringey” if woman did it at the same frequency as Men. Obvious ones like being obsessive about a Sports team, spending inordinate amounts of time playing video games, being vulgar, being aggressively competitive ect… Men and Woman are different. Biologically and socially. Instead of this being celebrated we have reached a point where any deviance in inherent traits are seen as somehow an attack on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:06 PM
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Because actual successful relationships(romantic and otherwise) are not based on a laundry list of quantifiable traits and attributes. If you actually have a real emotional connection with another human being notions of “settling” don’t actual come into play-at least not until said relationship starts to break down. If you want to view relationships as just a cynical search for Woman to lock down the “best” possible candidate though than it’s important to remember that there is a big difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:22 PM
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It’s true Men aren’t hypergamous in terms of the traits you have listed. It doesn’t mean however they aren’t hypergamous in general though. The more successful a man is the more likely he is going to “upgrade” his partner to a younger more physically attractive model once he has the opportunity. Men and Woman are just as “shallow” and “cynical” as each other. They are just “shallow” and “cynical” when it comes to different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:54 PM
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When woman say they want a man “in touch with his emotions” or somebody that is “emotionally available” what they actually mean is they want a man that is in touch with HER emotions. Somebody that will comfort her when she is sad, give her a hug when she needs it, listen to and actually care about whatever she is going through-be it a death in the family or the cancellation of her favourite TV show. The last thing she wants though is a man that is vulnerable and open about HIS own emotions. Noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:08 AM
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Neither has very good odds but a guy in the friend zone has a much greater chance of developing into a genuine romantic relationship if he sticks around long enough. Which is exactly why lots of woman have so many orbiters. The older and more jaded a woman gets with being “used and abused” by men she is actually physically attracted to the more likely she will eventually “settle” for one of her back up guys. A guy that has woman in the fuck zone however is never likely to eventually “settle” for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:31 PM
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As this is Reddit there will be lots of virtue signallers saying that if a Woman isn’t in her forties and on her 4 child she simply isn’t mature enough for their tastes. The whole most Men find Woman most attractive between their late teens and early 20’s isn’t a myth and doesn’t mean most are pedophiles. It means most men are simply adhering to hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. This is when Women are most fertile and so it follows this is when Men find Woman most sexually desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:42 PM
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Unless you are writing this from a demonstrably repressive society like Afghanistan it’s difficult for your point not to scream misandry. You concluding that 50 percent of Men( which is Approx 2 Billion people on the planet) are “problematic” and “threatening” to Women is a pretty sad take on humanity as a whole. You are of course entitled to think whatever you like but this kind of view point is not too dissimilar to a timid and bewildered racist weary of interacting with the majority of black …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:08 PM
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The vast majority of men on the planet are placid pussy cats that wouldn’t hurt a fly…which is why so many Men are offended by the notion that many Women are suspicious and fearful of them by default. However it is undeniable that the vast majority of violent crime is committed by men. It just a fact. That these violent crimes are being committed by a tiny percentage of the male population is besides the point. People can argue that it is sexist for Woman to prejudge all men because of the actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:13 PM
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Most men aren’t breaking up with their partners because they “got old”…because most men also “get old”. The idea that most woman age badly… and most men age like fine wine is ridiculous. The reality is most people age like milk. They get fat, they sag, they get wrinkly, they go bald, they go grey. Whether they are male or female is largely irrelevant. The only cases where men “age better”than woman is when both are highly attractive in the first place. A super attractive woman will indeed be at …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:26 PM
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Woman across the board go for attractive guys. Whether or not this guy is nice and good natured or “abusive” and “bad natured” is secondary. If he’s attractive( physically or in terms of status) he’s going to have no problem attracting Woman. This however is no different to how Men treat attractive Woman. If she is psychically attractive enough; whether or not she is an absolute bitch or an angel; she is going to have no problems attracting partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:43 PM
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We definitely seem to be living in a time where almost every woman claims to have been victim of a “toxic”, “abusive”, “narcissistic” relationship at some point. Strangely this usually coincides with them getting dumped by said abuser. Either practically every male on the planet with a relationship history are all these things…or a lot of women are doing a terrible disservice to victims of actual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:16 PM
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They might not actively be trying to get with her but they almost certainly would get with her given the chance. Whether you can “truly” be friends if there is always a sexual undercurrent on one side is another question but “platonic” relationships in the dictionary definition sense very rarely exist between heterosexual men and women. It’s hilarious that most people agree that men are so horny they would have sex with a sock but for some reason they are suddenly asexual when it comes their fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:18 AM
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The only “incentives for a woman to have a low body count” is regardless of what they think about it most men are repulsed by high body count woman. Are you okay with being negatively judged by most Men? Maybe you are. Maybe you aren’t. There are both very obvious societal and evolutionary reasons for this but at the end of the day whatever the reason and however unjust women think this is; it is what it is. It’s no different than a men getting upset about woman’s height preferences. Men can arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:30 PM
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You’re right. Nobody will be “rewarded with a lotta pussy for being a nice guy”. However do genuine nice guys actually want loads of casual sex with random people or are they ideally looking for a meaningful committed relationship? A “nice guy” will never gets loads pussy but he might just get that “nice girl” he is seeking. The same rings true for Woman with low body counts. What are they actually looking for? If you are looking for a monogamous meaningful relationship but you have a high body …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:05 PM
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There is two ways of looking at successful dating: 1: Trying to find somebody you magically and effortlessly click with on both an emotional and sexual level. This is the ideal but something even the most naturally attractive human beings struggle with. 2: It’s essentially like a job interview. Now how do most people present themselves at a job interview? Do they turn up in their boxer shorts and a cum strained T-shirt and talk about their passion for Star Wars or do they in effect become a comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:21 PM
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Men with options are not very different than women with options. The only real difference is there are lots women with options but very few men with the same power. Men that do process it though are usually in fact looking for the “one” and not just causal sex but because they have an abundance mindset they can afford to be very picky-and have very exacting standards in terms of long terms relationships. Just like women. Women often complain about being “used” for sex( as if the act wasn’t conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:11 AM
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There is no such thing as an “authentic self”. Obviously there are degrees to these things but everybody is always wearing a mask and “manipulating” those around them around them to get what the want to some extent. Is it disingenuous not to tell your boss what you really think of them? Is it disingenuous if a Woman puts on make-up? There isn’t any real fundamental difference between the “tactics” used by a PUA and somebody naturally “charming”. All relationships( even those described as “authen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:19 PM
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Society as we know it would collapse. The pursuit of sex is at the heart of why most Men do anything at all. Men don’t create, innovate, get jobs, built wealth…get out of bed in the morning…for the sake of it. They do so(at a deep fundamental level) because all these things facilitate sex. Sex makes the world go round because it’s what keeps the human race going. Like any other animal we are here to pass on our DNA( have sex)…and then die. The thought experiment is interesting but somewhat muddy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:09 AM
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I think the future for relationships is more likely to be AI for sex( as in VR) and non sexual relationships for companionship. Of course I don’t mean the immediate future as the technology is still much too crude but it is definitely on it’s way. I’m taking 50 years from now. Once we have Matrix level VR-where a simulation is indistinguishable from the real thing-that’s when there will be a massive shift in the sexual dynamics between average men and average women. Right now average men are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:55 PM
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Any woman who somehow feels like only being the “fun guy” and not “boyfriend material” is some kind of insult to a guy does not understand what what men want at all. The vast majority of men aspire to be the “fun guy” and “fun guy” relationships. Being in effect put in the “sex zone”’is the dream scenario for most men”. Men overwhelmingly only get into committed monogamous relationships because that’s the best chance of him securing sex. Men are only as faithful as their options ect… If a guy ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:46 AM
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Agree that people should have a purpose outside out dating. I’m just pointing out that the reason most people do just about anything usually has a genesis in the pursuit of sex or the desire to make one more sexually attractive. It’s the great motivating factor in life and is fundamentally what drives human progress. Nearly all Art, Science, innovation, Sporting achievement…has at least some link to a guy wanting to increase his chances of getting laid. Without this driving force behind everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:23 AM
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Sex makes the world go round. It’s why most men ultimately pursue money and status…because money and status makes them significantly more attractive to the opposite sex. All those things you believe men should be focusing on outside of sex and woman are usually tied to sex and woman in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:52 AM
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Woman decide what continues a “high value man” in the context of the sexual market place. What’s a “high value man” for a woman isn’t necessarily the same as what’s “high value” to a guy. Crucially this is exactly the same the other way around. Men decide what constitutes a “high value woman” not other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:17 PM
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All comes down to the amount of options a guy has. If he is very attractive then he almost certainly won’t take a woman with a OF past( or promiscuous past in general) seriously for a long term relationship. Obviously it will have no bearing on him sleeping with her but she’ll likely never make it out of the sex zone. The vast majority of guys however don’t have options so if she is otherwise relatively attractive she will still have a queue of guys looking to wife her up…even if deep down they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:30 PM
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Tate is like a much more articulate and intelligent Trump. He’s a contradictory, narcissistic and self serving grifter who probably doesn’t believe much of what he says but is undoubtedly entertaining saying it. Like with Trump however; most of his distracters never actually ask why what he is saying( however self serving and disingenuous it might be) rings true for so many disgruntled people. Divisive culture and political figures like Tate and Trump and numerous other charismatic charlatans th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:24 AM
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Cliches become cliches for a reason. Most men are only as faithful as their options. If a man is incredibly attractive( psychically or through extreme wealth and status) it’s very unlikely he is ever going to stay faithful to one woman. Men are not hardwired to be monogamous. Men are hardwired to try and spread their seed as far and wide as possible. It would take a super human amount of self control for most guys with a normal libido to restrict himself to a single person if he had beautiful wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:28 AM
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Like you’ve said a need for Eggs and Sperm. We still need mens sperm for artificial reproduction but because it is so plentiful men( on mass) are essentially obsolete. At least that’s how a lot of woman currently view men. I don’t need no deadbeat man to have a kid. I can just visit the fertility clinic and make and raise myself a baby. Single mother rule! Ect… ect… This is why men are seen as the expendable sex. You need very few men to keep the supply of humans replenished but you need a lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:26 PM
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Average modern women are indeed much more likely to be genuinely happy being single than modern average men. When you can get sex and attention on tap you aren’t ever really single in the same way that a single guy is. It not that Men actually desire “romantic relationships more than woman do”. What most men actually desire is the “single” lifestyle of most average woman. Not “romantic relationships”. They are jealous of average single woman because average single woman are in effect living the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:13 PM
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Obviously this is just a speculative thought experiment. Nobody knows exactly how technology will ultimately pan out for sure. However I think you are( understandably) looking at this with your 2023 goggles on and comparing what is currently available now( or in the relatively near future) and where we will( likely) be 50 or 100 years from now if technology continues to develop at the rate it currently is. Again; I am proposing a Matrix level VR future and or a future where artificial womb techn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:46 PM
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The cold reality is men, women, people…all use and manipulate each other to achieve their goals. Everybody is wearing a mask to some extent to further there own agenda. We all “use” each other. Is there any fundamental difference between a guy telling a women what she wants to hear so as to “talk her into bed”… And … a Woman telling a guy( or displaying certain traits that don’t come naturally to her) exactly what he wants to hear so that he commits to her? A guy might only reveal his true colou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:41 PM
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Playing devils advocate here to an extent because I do not disagree with the broad point you are making. However when this question comes up people often don’t consider the actual realities( and complexities) of normal human interactions and how “seduction” works. They say as long as men are up front about their intentions it’s never a problem. If a man says all he wants is sex from the start and a women agrees she will never feel “used” for sex. This is the solution. The problem is that only 1 …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:30 PM
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If you think science is ever truly suppressed on ethical grounds you are being naive. If that was the case the phone you are typing this on would be illegal. Science is driven by commerce and necessity and human curiosity. If birth rates continue to plummet in the western world at the rates they currently are it’s difficult to believe rich western governments at some point won’t intervene. It will be an issue of necessity. The options then will either be a handmaids tale scenario where woman are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:49 PM

It’s an interesting thought experiment. The question here though isn’t necessarily if it wasn’t for sex, would most men not bother with woman at all? And in fairness vice versa as well. The question here is if we remove sex from the equation completely is there actually any fundamental differences between the genders? If it wasn’t for sex; men and woman would presumably just interact as people in general. Some would get along. Some wouldn’t. Nobody would make an effort to either seek out or hide…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:42 PM

Very true. However if it wasn’t for “sex” most women would not bother with men either. The only real difference is most men bother with most women when it comes to sex. Most women only “bother” with a select portion of men when it comes to sex. Sex though is what binds both genders together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:46 AM
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You’re completely right from an evolutionary and psychological point of view. The price of sex is indeed a lot higher for woman…and this is that thought that is embedded in her lizard brain. It’s our lizard brains that generally control most of our behaviours and beliefs. When using our conscious(none lizard brain) minds; not getting pregnant in this day and age is pretty damn easy. The risk of STD’s is also spread equally across the both genders. One gender is not more protected than the other.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:17 AM
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Why don’t you think this will ever happen given how quickly technology is developing? Just 20 years ago and the smartphone you are typing this on would have seemed like Sci-Fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:54 AM
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It will be less like prostitution and more like porn times a million. Woman often ask men why don’t they just get a prostitute if sex is all they are looking for. A lot of course do but the majority of sexually frustrated men don’t. The reasons for this will differ from individual to individual but it can relate to fear of STD’s, self consciousness or simply not finding most “affordable” prostitutes attractive enough to be worth the money spent. Practically every man on the planet however (singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:53 AM
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Yes please educate me. Having an 90 IQ means I’m pretty slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:11 AM
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You do realise that free love and the sexual revolution stem from the boomer generation right? To understand correctly; you don’t think there is still a common narrative within this generation that men “use” woman for sex? You honestly think woman of this generation don’t have this mentality as a generalisation? We are now living in a time where the current generation all value sex in the same way and it is no longer seen as a commodity by either gender? That’s not me being facetious These are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:08 AM
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See, this is what happens when you were never taught common courtesy as a child. You end insulting peoples IQ’s without provocation while not actually making any kind of point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:52 PM
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I’m playing devils advocate here because I absolutely agree that many men will say and do just able anything to manipulate a woman into sleeping with him. However; most men are absolutely open to( and even seeking) marriage/ co-habitation/ the “one ect… If he has that on his profile but is in fact having causal sex left right and centre; it doesn’t necessarily mean he is lying. If a girl he is “casually” sleeping with actually turns out to displays qualities he wants in a long term partner…he wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:32 PM
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The point is that those men that will supposedly be “undateable” because they end up using this technology will no longer care about being seen as “undateable”- at least not to the same extent as they currently do. A dateless man will brush these insults off in the same way a cat lady brushes off not being in a relationship. That’s if “dating” as we know it will even still exist when technology gets as advanced as I am proposing. Right now if you are considered “undateable” by an average woman y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:49 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:55 PM
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You’re absolutely correct. That’s exactly what happening. My question is why are so called sexually liberated woman still treating sex as a commodity rather than a mutually pleasurable act? If causal sex, body counts, promiscuity ect… really wasn’t a concern of modern day sexually liberated women; how can they ever be “used” for a mutually consenting act? The only conclusion that can be drawn is that sex( and it’s value) is clearly not the same for men and women and we should stop acting like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:54 PM
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If you are agreeing that woman use sex as a commodity (rather than a mutual act of pleasure) we are not disagreeing about anything. That’s absolutely the point at the heart of the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:40 PM
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A woman truly in a FWB is incredibly rare. More often than not a woman that states she is in a FWB has simply been put in the sex zone by the guy she actually wants a relationship with. Any self respecting woman absolutely despises being in a FWB. If a guy meets a woman that he is: 1: attracted enough to have sex with… 2: considers an actual genuine friend… He is trying to lock her down and wife her up immediately. Not have her as a FWB. The truth is he’s more than happy to sleep with her but ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:34 PM
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Absolutely. I have an inferiority complex…to who exactly? Or This discussion sub about gender dynamics and if you don’t generalise-and indeed segregate by gender-how do you actually debate anything on here? Obviously every human being is a unique individual with there own subjective take on the world. However at this is a completely banal stance in the context of a gender discussion sub. Why are you even on a sub devoted to differing gender dynamics if your contribution is always simply going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:14 PM
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I’m not quite sure what you’re point is? In your scenario you have acknowledged you don’t ever feel “used” for sex. Great. Sounds like you are lucky enough to experience exactly what you want from your relationships. Good for you but I don’t understand the relevance to what is being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:01 PM
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I don’t disagree with any of your individual points. Horny unscrupulous men will absolutely do just about anything to manipulate women into sex. Just like low libido unscrupulous gold digging women will do just about anything to manipulate a gullible sex starved guy into a relationship. The only frustrating point about this subject matter is that most woman engaged in causal sex( who bemoan being “used”) still often fail to admit( even to themselves) that men and woman simply have a very differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:53 PM
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What you’re saying isn’t completely incorrect. A unscrupulous horny man will absolutely do just about anything to manipulate a woman into sex. That’s undeniable. Just like an unscrupulous gold digging low libido woman will do just about anything to lock down a gullible horny sex starved ATM. The bone of contention is just why so called sexually liberated women say they love casual sex…but then cry about being “used” for casual sex. The reason of course for this is despite what many woman claim a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:38 PM
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That’s a pretty bad analogy unfortunately. You’re implying “paying for a date” is equally transactional as mutual consensual sex. Paying for a date means one person is doing the paying and the other is reaping the benefits. It’s not a balanced act. Taking individual sexual gratification aide and presuming both parties want sex in of itself( as many sexually liberated woman claim) than it should be a complete balanced transaction. Effectively it’s a pleasurable handshake. Of course it isn’t for f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:17 PM
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What you are saying might be anecdotally true but it’s impossible to have a discussion on gender topics( or anything really) if the answer is always going to be “it’s down to the individual”. At that stage it becomes impossible to have an opinion on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:59 PM
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But why is the act of sex in itself being seen as something you can “use” somebody for if both parties presumably want it? If somebody doesn’t receive the other things they also desire( presumably commitment and emotional intimacy) than what has that got to do with sex in of itself? The implication is that sex is being “used” as a bargaining tool to gain other things rather than simply being mutually pleasurable act in of itself. This is a problem with so called sexual liberation. Men generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:53 PM
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How exactly do you “trick” somebody into a consensual act? Are you saying that these woman don’t actually want and enjoy the act of sex in the first place and are only engaging in it for ulterior motives? Isn’t that the height of manipulation in itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:33 PM
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But at the end of the day they are both agreeing to sex. The implication is that one of them wants sex and the other doesn’t. One of them simply wants something as well as sex…and the other doesn’t. There is no “using” going on if both are consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:30 PM
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I completely agree that men seek the same thing as women from relationships in general. As you say trust, loyalty, intimacy, respect… ect… The difference is men don’t necessarily need these things in the context of sex in the same way that woman do. This is not a case of being a “sociopath”. This is a case of being a man. If this means all men are fundamentally sociopaths in your mind than I guess there is not much to discuss. The reality is-however unpalatable to woman-that most men don’t need …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:32 PM
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Indistinguishable physically. Which is of course an astronomical leap from where we are currently regarding porn and sex toys. Given how prevalent porn addiction already is for many men( to the point it can even affect those that are actually in romantic relationships) it’s not unrealistic to think Matrix level technology will completely revolutionise how men and woman interact “romantically” inside the real world. Of course it will not be psychologically indistinguishable from the real thing. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:59 AM
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“Relationships” today and relationships in prehistoric times are both(predominantly) based on lust. “Cavemen” where not actively thinking about the continuation of the species when they were fucking. They where fucking because they were horny. Same as today. Our innate biological urge has and always will be at the heart of any “romantic” relationship. Even people that have no intention whatsoever to pass on their DNA are being propelled by that fundamental urge if they are in an kind of sexual r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:53 AM
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The difference is we are talking about technology that will eventually be indistinguishable from the “real thing”. This will be very different than “fucking silicone” or how most people currently view sex dolls and VR. You are absolutely correct that human beings need “connection and touch” to lead fulfilling lives. The problem so many average men face these days is that they don’t receive “connection and touch” from the opposite sex. It’s a very rare women that faces the same problem-at least t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:40 AM
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Hmmmm…do we really have “genuine platonic relationships”? Great if you do personally but it’s absolutely from the norm. Maybe you’re so attractive and drowning in sexual options that you simply don’t view woman the same way as most average guys desperate for any kind of sexual attention. The vast majority of men that claim to have “platonic” female friends are orbiters hoping one day they will be released from the dreaded friend zone. Most guys with a normal libido are so horny they would bang a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:47 PM
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It’s going to be pretty near impossible for the average woman to stand out and compete with a “digital GF” if said “digital GF” is essentially indistinguishable from the “real thing” but 100 times more attractive. It will be like an average guy going on Tinder now and trying to stand out ahead of a 6 foot 5, multi-millionaire, brain surgeon who models at weekends. Will all know who the woman is going to swipe on. The same will eventually be true for the average guy when it comes to the average w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:36 PM
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There is a big difference between current porn/sex toys and a sexual experience that is completely indistinguishable from the real thing. This technology is obviously nowhere near there yet but it’s certainly on it’s way. Might not be in our lifetime but it will almost certainly be a reality for your grandkids. Every dateless Virgin that currently struggles to find a sexual partner( which is a significant amount of people) will have a future equivalent that is awarded the same endless sexual opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:27 PM
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I’m certainly not of the opinion it’s all doom and gloom. What I’m talking about is still probably a couple of generations away so is currently just a thought experiment. I just think it’s interesting that the current dating narrative spoken about on subs like this on a daily basis- average woman have endless dating options whereas average guys have practically none-is not actually where the future is headed once you look at how quickly technology is progressing. It is very feasible( and all but…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:06 PM
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If this ever becomes a reality “incels” will no exist because more or less everybody would be choosing to get their sexual needs met via technology rather than real people. No average guy is going to be choosing an average girl over a supermodel and no average girl is going to be choosing an average guy over Chris Hemsworth 2.0. The interesting( and possibility scary) thing is what happens to woman within society as we know it if they are no longer prized and projected for their sexual and repro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:47 PM
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What’s the big political difference between a man being able to use an artificial womb to have a child and woman currently being able to have a child through artificial insemination using donated sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:07 PM
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We’ll almost certainly reach a point where VR is indistinguishable from reality-including catering to both our emotional and physical needs. Of course at this point we open up the Pandora’s box of what it even means to be human. That however is another debate. For the purposes of this thread I think the largely physical aspect of sex and how future tech will cater to humanity is interesting as it talks to the differences in how men and women view such things. As a generalisation I think most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:03 PM
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The key here is when technology reaches a point where VR is completely indistinguishable from real life. The Matrix basically. I find it hard to believe that the majority of average men would ever commit and settle down with an average woman if the easily accessible alternative is a different super model every night of the week. This is not too different to the current scenario of the average woman being able to fire up tinder and having hundreds of more attractive sexual options at her finger t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:53 PM
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Of course marriage is an L for men in general. There is very little incentive for a man to get married in modern society other than the belief that his partner expects it and he wants to make her happy. Women initiate 80 percent of divorces but what is less often discussed is that they in effect also initiate the vast majority of marriages. I of course don’t mean they are the one’s doing the literal asking. Just that they are the ones still creating the expectation of marriage that so many men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:55 PM
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I don’t think it’s so much about woman and men being more are less difficult to understand. It’s whether there is a difference in effort in being able to satisfy one or the other in the context of a relationship? The keys here is within the context of a relationship rather than life in general. It can be argued that men in general are actually harder to satisfy than women given most men are clearly more work and project oriented than most women. This partially at least comes from an inability to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:28 PM
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What’s example of a “complex” man in relation to his romantic desires? There are a lot of responses saying how complex men are in this context but nobody has actually elaborated on what they mean by this complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:55 PM
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Isn’t a man admitting that his wants and desires are simple the opposite of the need to feel unique and “special”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:49 PM
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Financially stable women who are genuinely single and child free by choice are probably the happiest demographic on the planet. Why wouldn’t they be? Even an average a woman (with this mindset) is essentially living most mens wildest dreams. Sex on tap with an endless supply of significantly more attractive partners than themselves without the need to ever commit to a single person. Close friends for companionship and emotional needs. Time and money for hobbies and personal pursuits. An endless …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:44 PM
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There is of course nuance to everything but if you don’t believe there is ever any truth to generalisations what value do you get from visiting a gender dynamic sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:35 PM
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Other than a Woman’s looks and agreeableness; what do you think a man with options would be choosy about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:30 PM

Of course there is a difference between the two. Each scenario will of course have differing nuances. As a broad analogy however I think the idea that women not caring about men’s issues being similar to people in general not caring about societal issues at large-is not far off the mark. You say that there isn’t a anti-homeless movement in the same way there is a anti-male movement but is the situation really that different if looked at broadly? The homeless epidemic is a symptom of how people v…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:28 PM

We are of course both using extreme examples to illustrate our points but many people do essentially go round berating the most unfortunate people in society for their bad luck. You might not be one of those people but how many around you look at the homeless problem and rather than consider how that person got to that terrible situation simply spout something along the line of “Goddamn junkie, why don’t they stop begging for money and get a goddamn job like me!”. The point I believe you are mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:09 PM

Google Dunbar’s Number
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:32 AM
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The same way most people feel about those in a less fortunate positions then themselves. A fleeting bit of empathy and then they go about their day without thinking about it again. This question is like asking somebody complaining here about not being able to get laid how they feel about the slave that built the phone they are using to type this on? Unless they are a complete sociopath they probably think that it sucks to find yourself and in that situation but that is just unfortunately the car…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:42 PM
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Assuming you are talking about the Western world your point about Woman not being “allowed” to work in male dominated industries is ridiculous. It’s completely false to suggest that women are being held back from pursuing any career they want. There are significantly more male plumbers, garage collectors, engineers ect… because woman choose to pursue other professions. In fact affirmative action incentives in many western countries means it is a lot easier for a woman to break into a male domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:13 PM
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1: Most men are simply hardwired to be repulsed by promiscuous woman. No talk about double standards and appeals to logic will ever defeat hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution. The idea of sexually “sharing” a woman a man actually has an emotional connection with (I.E somebody who might one day be the mother of his children) is disgusting to most men. 2: Most men are only in monogamous relationships in the first place because they don’t actually have the options to sleep around…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:00 PM
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When men say they “don’t care” about a Woman’s career what they really mean is that it is simply not a driving factor when it comes to attraction. A Woman having a great career and corresponding income is almost never a bad thing for the guy(contrary to what a lot of Woman say about Men being intimidated by female success) it’s just that’s it’s way way down on the list of what makes her attractive to him. This of course is almost the opposite for Woman when it comes to Men. Ambition, Status and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:01 PM

I very much doubt many men( or people) disagree with this. The key though is having “options and friends”. Most people don’t have these.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:48 PM
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If you mean sexually attractive than I think the answer is quite evident. Yes, a much smaller percentage of Men are sexually attractive in the eyes of Woman than vice versa. This is simple evolutionary biology. Woman have evolved to be as selective as possible when it comes to choosing a sexual mate and Men have evolved the other way. A crude way to look at it is that Woman naturally favour quality over quantity whereas Men naturally favour quantity over quality when it comes to sex. It is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:48 PM
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Once you enter a relationship almost everybody is settling to some degree. This is the difference between people that are able to maintain successful long term monogamous relationships and those that say it’s what they want but perpetually find themselves single. This is no different for Men or Woman, Super models or Fatties and CEO’s or homeless people. There is no such thing as a “perfect” partner. People in healthy relationships though realise and accept this and are not delusional about ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:19 PM
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Of course most Men want to be like Leonardo DiCaprio but 99.999999 percent are not like Leonardo DiCaprio. One of the main issues Woman have in the dating and relationship sphere when it comes to “most men” is that the men they desire are not most men at all. They are a tiny percentage of very attractive Men that have the options to behave anyway they want. “Most Men” given their options( or lack there of) want exactly the type of relationship “most Woman” say that desire. I.E one built on equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:16 PM
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If a Woman actively chooses not to settle down or have kids and is happy all power to her. There are no shortage of kids in the world and happy, satisfied individuals make for a happy society. In the western world at least Woman have the same opportunity as Men to choose whatever life path they desire. Want have lots of casual sex and work 80 hours a week for a big house and nice holidays than great. Want to settle down with your high school sweetheart and have a big family at 20 than great as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:43 AM
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Men have evolved to seek out as many sexual parters as possible as this is the most effective way to ensure the propagation of his genes. Theoretically an average man can father literally thousands of children within his lifetime. Crudely speaking men are hardwired to have a quantity over quality mindset. Hence the men will fuck anything that moves troupe. Woman have evolved the other way round because the “work load” involved in pasting on their DNA is so more extreme than that of men. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:57 PM
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It’s understandable that a lot of Women are bought up to be physically fearful of Men. Women are-generally speaking- significantly weaker than Men and Men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime in society. None of this is up for debate. However it is also worth nothing that Men are much more likely to be the victims of violent crime than Woman are. It’s actually much safer being a Woman in the world than it is being a Man. I think it’s indisputable that the average Man in society i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:07 AM
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Because human desire isn’t driven by rationality or “fairness”. It’s deep rooted in our lizard brains through hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. Even though Woman have exactly the same earning potential as Men these days this has only been true for a few generations. A blink of the eye in terms of human history. It’s still hardwired into the psyche of both genders that Men are the providers and Woman are the consumers. Most Woman-especially wealthy ones-don’t even know why they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:19 PM
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There is very little reason for modern Woman to engage in a traditional relationship with a guy…unless they want a traditional family. If they don’t want kids than most Woman are living in a golden age. Sex on tap with Men outside their looks match simply by firing up an App. No longer a need to get into a relationship with a guy just survive. Emotional needs met via friends and family. It’s very true that many Woman are truly happy remaining single because unlike the majority of single Men they…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:38 AM
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If the Wall simply means that point when somebody starts to looks less attractive than of course the Wall is a thing. Everybody ages. Everybody’s looks start to decline. It comes with being alive. Typically this happens by 25 for most Women. This is not me being harsh. This is based on lots of data that show the vast majority of Men( of any age) find Woman to be at their most attractive from late teens to mid 20’s. I.E according to Men Woman have peaked by the age of 25 in terms of looks alone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:01 AM
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The harsh reality is most people are only as faithful as their options. He’s a rich “celebrity” who’s going to have Woman throwing themselves at him in a way he wouldn’t as a “normal” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:24 PM
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Depends on what you are defining as love? If you mean Romantic Love( which is pretty much a euphemism for Lust) than this fades with pretty much every relationship. The ones that continue on after the Honeymoon period ends are the ones that are built on “like” not “love. Once the love/lust part is gone must people see their partner as they truly are for the first time and discover that they don’t actually like them as people. If however the “like” and respect still remain after those intoxicatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:27 PM
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Because human beings are hierarchical creatures. There is only a top because that’s where everybody wants to be. If we weren’t inherently competitive as a species nobody reading this would exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:14 PM
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It’s quite simple. Nobody should “lower their standards” as long as they are fine that their standards might never be met. The reality is many many Woman are genuinely fine with this. We live in a day and age where they don’t need to be in a relationship for simply survival. They can get their sexual needs met through an abundance of casual sex. They can get their emotional needs met through a supportive network of friends and family. Men really are redundant to many Woman in this day and age. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:55 PM
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Can most Woman tell if a Man is a Virgin or a modern day Casanova just by spending some time with him? Even if it’s impossible to know what a Woman’s specific body count is without being told; it’s certainly not impossible to get a good sense of whether somebody has been the town bike or relatively restrained in terms of her sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:53 AM
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Whoever said Woman aren’t also attracted to other things as well as a Man’s looks? Isn’t that one if the most common points made on a sub like this? That Woman have a laundry list of things they find attractive in a Man while Men are essentially just interested in looks and a certain personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:59 PM
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“Men only notice attractive women”. Well yes. I think the point though in the context of a sub like this is that most Men find most Woman sexually “attractive” to some extent. Obviously there are massive degrees of attractiveness but most Woman are never completely (sexually) invisible to the opposite sex in the same way most Men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:46 PM
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The vast majority of Men will never turn any Woman down if she meets his very low attraction bar. Obviously when it comes to casual sex an “easy” Woman with a high body count is exactly what most Men are looking for. When it comes to a relationship it’s of course very different. Regardless of how progressive he may appear, practically no man alive( unless he has a kink) doesn’t have an issue with his partner having a high body count. How big an issue will change on a case by case basis but biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:14 AM
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I think it’s widely accepted that Men care about looks a lot more than Woman in general as they are much more visually oriented when it comes to attraction. This is why porn users are overwhelmingly male while readers of erotic fiction are overwhelmingly female. Men just need their eyes to feel attraction. Woman typically are a lot more multi-faceted and often have a laundry list of requirements. The reason why there is a perception that Woman are obsessed with looks this is that disgruntled mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:17 AM
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If you take a purely statistical and analytical approach to things than practically everybody in society-across the entire world-are “doing better than ever”. Men and Woman. There is less wars, less poverty, less decriminalisation for the vast majority of people on the planet than than there was just 50 years ago. However human beings don’t think this way. Somebody working in a sweat shop today doesn’t think “oh, well best be grateful, if this was 300 years ago I would be in chain gang working a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:08 PM
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I think it’s fascinating that you just have to look at the very different ratio of positive to negative replies on this thread to illustrate a positive trait that Woman inherently exhibit more so then Men. General agreeableness and tact. Woman are not as directly combative as Men and will make more of an attempt at supportive affirmations in most social situations. This is illustrated at how Woman generally communicate with each other. They show affection and respect for each other through affir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:03 PM
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What’s your take on people who have severe deformities or medical afflictions or that are morbidity obese but somehow manage to find partners and fulfilling relationships? What’s the difference between somebody who would be defined as “ugly” or “undesirable” by common conventions and the people with no such “afflictions” but can’t seem to find a relationship with anybody at all? Is it less due to them not actually being attractive to anybody at all or is it simply a case of them not being attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:07 AM
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Anybody who says they are looking for a partner but finds themselves perpetually single simply have unrealistic standards. This is equally true for both Men and Woman. It might be a trite cliche but there really is somebody for everybody. The problem is most involuntarily single people are blind or indifferent to the people that find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:48 AM
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Most people struggling to date simply have unrealistic standards
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:35 AM
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There are numerous double standards and inconsistencies on both sides of the dating market. This is because Men and Woman are simply biologically and socially different. Unless we one day evolve into a single gender things will never ever be “equal” all things considered. You’re right that there is absolutely a double standard when it comes to age gap relationships but this is primarily because of how Men and Woman view sex differently. It’s very rare for a Man to think he is ever being “used” s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:03 PM
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Nobody is here to find actual solutions. People are here because complaining is cathartic and everybody wants to be part of a pack. Supporting your gender and making it part of your identity is just as arbitrary as blindly supporting a political party, country or sports team. It’s all just tribalism and people searching for belonging in a lonely world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:19 PM
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You’re not going to have to go too far into the future before we have a fully automated society. Careers, jobs and the economy as we know it will be completely a thing of the past. What will be interesting in this future is how Men and Woman will approach dating when notions a wealth and status are more or less removed from the equation completely. Woman really will just have a man’s looks and personality to go on in terms of attraction and Betabuxing will no longer exist. Of course this future …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:32 PM
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How would you feel if you posted this and you didn’t get a single response? Probably a little upset. How would you feel if every time you posted anything at all you didn’t get a single response? You might start feeling a little bit of anger and resentment at the world beginning to bubble away… There is never an excuse for rudeness and aggression but there is always a reason at the heart of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:51 PM
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All depends on how somebody is defining “High Value”. If loyalty is connected to “value” in anyway than the cheater cannot be defined as “high value”. I’m of course though being pedantic and by “high value” you mean high status- somebody who is very attractive to a lot of Woman. Should Woman “expect” cheating if they happen to have bagged a ridiculously high status guy? They should unless they are they are completely delusional-which of course most people are when it comes to matters of the hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:38 AM
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Very interesting answer. Surely empathy is actually one of the hardest traits to cultivate? How does somebody “train” themselves to be empathetic if it’s not something they possess naturally? What would the process of cultivating an emphatic personality be in practical terms? Or do you mean somebody can easily “pretend” to be a more empathetic person in the same way an autistic person can train themselves to follow certain social cues even if they don’t understand them on an emotional level?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:38 PM
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There is some nuance to this question. Are you asking would most( I.E average) Men suddenly become attractive in general to most average Woman if they were in shape? Or are you asking would they become MORE attractive if they worked out? Of course they would become MORE attractive. That is exactly the same for Woman. A Woman in decent shape is massively MORE attractive to most men than a fat one. Being physically fit makes anybody MORE attractive. Whether or not this though is the magic ingredie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:11 PM
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I think this is a classic case of both sides simply arguing over semantics and failing to truly understand what the other is attempting to say. You clearly don’t grasp what I am getting at-which may or may not be down to a failure of clear articulation at my end- and I really don’t comprehend the logic of your counter argument. At least though there has been an attempt a civil discussion 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:36 PM
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Who is saying somebody is a hypocrite for being annoyed at their situation? Somebody is a hypocrite when they admit( as many have) they would act in exactly the same manner as their oppressors( or “Average Woman” in the context of the thread) given the very same circumstances. Why is it so difficult to grasp that some people are hypocrites and some aren’t? The people getting triggered by this clearly are. Some people have moral integrity. Some people don’t. Do you? Assuming you’re a guy who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:53 AM
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Why are you on a gender debate forum if you think it’s “none of your business” to have an opinion on topics related to gender politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:03 AM
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Are you familiar with William Ellison Jr and if so how do you regard him given the point you are attempting make with your slave analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:00 AM
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No. I am not saying “progress only happens in society when people who aren’t hypocrites speak up”. Anybody can speak up. Talk is cheap. That’s exactly the problem. Most people say one thing but act in a completely contrary manner to their so called principals. Process only happens when the people who aren’t hypocrites prove they are not hypocrites by their actual actions. This is why progress is very rarely driven by the masses. Just look into any major social movement in history. The abolishmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:56 PM
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Are there really many people-even on this sub-that argue against Woman( in general) being more sexually attractive than Men? The studies that show that most Men find most Woman attractive- in contrast to most Woman only finding a very small percentage of Men physically attractive- are bought up here all the time is of the main reason lots of Men believe the dating market to be so skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:03 PM
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This is hilarious. D’Angelo complaining about being sexualised is a bit like Micheal Jordan complaining about people focusing on his Basketball career rather than his stint as a Baseball player.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:56 PM
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Men…Woman…People can complain about whatever they want. It’s human nature to do so when they are personally affected by inequality. They just shouldn’t expect anything to change unless they practice what they preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:43 PM
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Who is saying it’s “across the board”? There are absolutely moral people in society who are not hypocrites. There are actually some people who wouldn’t try to actively dodge tax even if they were in a position to get away with it. These are what are generally known as good people. You may or may not be one of them. This post however isn’t directed at them. It’s directed at the people who preach one thing but then admit they would act in exactly the same manner as the people they are so annoyed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:09 PM
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People can be mad as they like about anything like but this doesn’t actually mean much at all in terms of solving a problem. The reason why there is so much inequality in the world(as illustrated by your examples) is not because there is a small number of people at the top repressing the masses. It’s because the masses themselves are in fact moral hypocrites who would act in exactly the same fashion as their oppressors. This is very much the problem at hand. Real societal change has historically…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:11 PM
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Men have it “harder” than Woman simply because Woman-due to evolutionary biology-are significantly more selective in who they choose to sleep with. They have to be given the vastly different roles Men and Woman play in child rearing. The best evolutionary strategy for a Man to ensure his DNA is passed on is simply to have sex with as many different Woman as possible. In theory a Man can have thousands of children across a lifetime and so quantity over “quality” is what he is hardwired for. Hence…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:05 AM
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Woman engaging in casual sex is not “unfair to men” just like certain Men choosing not to date promiscuous Woman is not “unfair” to Woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:03 PM
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If you are defining the wall “as the stage of life when your looks depreciate” you are being very generous saying men hit it at around 45. The vast majority of men look pretty dreadful by this age. Balding or greying hair, budging waist lines, terrible posture from decades stuck behind a desk. Even the tiny minority of Men with model level genetics will already be well into their physical decline by this age. There has been lots of studies into this and the general consensus is Men overwhelming …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:58 AM
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Everybody cares about their age and getting older. Male and Female. It’s just a biological fact that sex appeal and beauty is intrinsically linked to youth. Nobody stays young forever and therefore nobody is able to maintain their peak level of desirability beyond a certain age. Countless studies into fertility and sexual attraction(which are of course linked) suggest that the vast majority of Woman will have peaked in terms of their desirability to Men by the age of 25. Now this is not to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:44 AM
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Sex between Men and Woman is generally not viewed as an equal exchange because it generally isn’t-at least from an evolutionary point of view. Regardless of the advent of contraceptives, feminism, the sexual revolution and decades of sex positivity we have to remember that this has all occurred in the blink of an eye in relation to the slow grind of human sexual evolution. As such both Men and Woman still very much operate via their lizard brains when it comes to the primal urge to have sex. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:09 PM
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Being a FWB for a Woman is the equivalent of a man being put in the friend zone. They are essentially female orbiters. There is this misconception that FWB is somehow this empowering situation for strong independent Woman looking for sex but not commitment. That’s not a female fantasy. That’s a male fantasy. There are of course exceptions to the rule but as a generalisation if a Woman both enjoys a Man’s company and finds him attractive enough to sleep with repeatedly she’s going to want a commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:00 AM
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“Gold diggers” of course exist on both sides but as a generalisation I think it’s undeniable that material/societal status is a much bigger determining factor when it comes to Female to Male attraction than the other way round. Supermodels will happily throw themselves at Men that wouldn’t get a single match on a dating app based on looks alone-if they have high enough status. We would actually be surprised if an average looking guy with exceptionally high status was dating his looks match. It’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:01 PM
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Woman are nowhere near as visually orientated as Men when it comes to determining sexual attraction. Obviously there are a small percentage of Men that are so objectively physically attractive that pretty much all Woman agree they are hot-and therefore these are the guys that clean up when it comes to picture centric online dating/hookup sites. However just because a guy isn’t attractive when viewed in isolation of his photo doesn’t mean a woman won’t find him attractive in person or when she le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:52 PM
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Because Woman( and Men for that matter) haven’t evolved to maintain rabid sexual attraction to their partner for a lifetime. Her husband could be Chris Hemsworth and after a while the novelty would still wear off. People often forget the primary reason sex exists is for procreation. That we can also use it recreationally and as a pair bonding device is a happy by product but it’s not it’s fundamental “purpose”. The sexual honeymoon period-where Woman are just as horny as their partner-exists as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:11 PM
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There could be a myriad of reasons taken on case by case basis. As a generalisation though it likely boils down to 2 main factors: 1: Woman simply have a much lower sex drives than Men due to the clear biological reason of having much lower testosterone than Men. A Woman that would be described as hyper sexual or even a nymphomaniac simply has an average guys sex drive. That’s how big the difference generally is. It’s no coincidence that out of all demographics Gay men have the most sex while Ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:21 AM
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Because primal sexual attraction is not dictated by social mores. It’s the same reason almost all Woman are attracted to tall men over short men despite tallness no longer holding any real utility in a post industrial egalitarian society. Woman are sexually attracted to dominance because for the vast majority of human history dominant Men provided for and protected Woman. The more dominant and powerful( both physically and in terms of status) a Man the more capable he is of providing protection …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:20 PM
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I think given that most Men inflate their numbers while most Woman deflate their numbers we would have a situation whereby a lot of Woman will start abstaining from hook up culture and a lot of Men will start using sex workers just to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:43 PM
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There is a huge difference to what somebody might “prefer” and what somebody can actually get. I’m sure the vast majority of Woman would “prefer” that their partner was a 6 foot 5 Chris Hemsworth lookalike with the bank account to match but it’s probably not going to happen…at least in the context of a relationship beyond casual sex. The narrative that Men find Woman less sexually attractive after a certain age is true if you believe all the studies done on the subject but it is completely misle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:33 AM
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Unless a Woman wants to have kids most Woman will handle ageing and not being in a long term relationship a lot better than most Men. Unlike most Men;Woman can pretty much get sex on tap all the way into the nursing home. Unlike Men they also generally have a strong net work of friends and family for emotional support and companionship . This is why so many Woman have delusional standards when it comes to finding a partner. These standards will almost never be met but it’s not actually that big …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:12 AM
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Truly high earning Men don’t want career Woman because they are looking for mothers for their children not somebody to supplement their already substantial income. Why would any Man who wants a family choose a Woman that is career minded over being family orientated? Having a nanny bring up your children over their own mother is not appealing to many Men for obvious reasons. Of course the vast majority of Men are not high earning enough to be able to provide a comfortable family life on a single…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:53 AM
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It’s common for people to counter the evolutionary argument for Mens repulsion to promiscuous Woman by saying it is in fact cultural. We simply live in a sexist, patriarchal society run by sexually frustrated men hell bent on keeping Woman suppressed…and so on. However what they fail to acknowledge is that culture is also just a by product of biological evolution. Why do-broadly speaking-societies across the planet have such similar laws and thoughts on morality? There are of course nuances with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:37 PM
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Men and Woman are both interested in a partners “status” and also their own. It’s just that Men and Woman derive their status in very different ways. A Man’s status and his resulting attractiveness to Woman is almost always linked to his ability to provide resources. Even the wealthiest most independently minded Woman have been hardwired by evolution to seek out the most high status Man- as status usually implies an ability to provide and protect. Woman are not only interested in the most geneti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:40 AM
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It’s undeniable that raising children in a single parent household is (broadly speaking) bad for society at large. There is lots of data that show children raised by single mothers being statically much more likely to have negative outcomes in life. This is especially true in terms of a propensity to crime. All the facts point to single mothers being especially bad at raising young Men. This is because they have no idea what it is like being a young man and just don’t have the (paternal) instinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:38 PM
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Do Woman really “spend so much time and money trying appeal to Men?”. The common narrative from many Woman is that make-up, fashion, hair ect… is for themselves and for other Woman rather than the benefit of the male gaze. That debate point aside; if Woman really did put in so much more time, money and effort into appealing to Men than why are the majority overweight? Practically everybody knows that the one thing all Woman can do to make themselves significantly more attractive to nearly all Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:58 PM
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The vast majority of Woman know from a very young age that most guys want to sleep with them-and everybody else. It would be pretty ludicrous to think that most Woman surrounded by male “friends” actually ever truly believe they are only hanging around because they dig her amazing personality. Of course they are aware the relationship isn’t platonic. Of course they know he would jump into bed with her at the first prompt. Any Woman that says otherwise is either a liar or one of the most naïve pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:06 PM
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Nearly everybody suffers from the grass is always greener syndrome at some point. Even people who lived the type of lives many would kill for still have regrets and fantasies about what could of been. If she hadn’t gotten married and had kids- and still had an objectively satisfying life-she would probably now be regretting that. It’s just human nature rather than any kind of profound comment on the state of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:51 PM
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Of course Woman have a “hard-wired innate desire for companionship”. Practically every human being on the planet does. We are an incredibly social species. So much so that solitary confinement is legally defined as a form of torture in many countries. The difference between a lot of Men and Woman is that Woman don’t need to be in a romantic relationship to receive companionship . They usually have a very strong network of family and friends to meet their emotional and social needs. By contrast m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:45 PM
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It’s just another form of gatekeeping and tribalism at play. Ironically people that equate sexually “fetishising” somebody based on their race as being somehow racist- are in fact being racist. Having a preference for a certain skin colour is no different than having any kind of preference based on physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:09 PM
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There will continue to be a slow and steady decline until technology advances(as it inevitably will) to the point that practically no human being is having real world sexual relations with each other any more. Why date an unkempt, overweight person when everybody will have the opportunity to plug themselves into the “matrix” and bang the partner of their fantasies. At this point the “real thing” will be much less desirable than the artificial alternative. This advance in technology will probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:52 AM
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If the average modern Woman doesn’t want to have kids it makes almost no sense for her to seek out marriage or a long term relationship. Unlike most average Men she can have her physical needs met as easily as turning on an App and can have her emotional needs met via a strong network of friends and family. We now live in an age where she is completely capable of meeting her own financial needs. Men and long term relationships are largely redundant- until you bring children into the equation. De…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:26 AM
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Promiscuity is indeed so unattractive to most Men for the reason you have eluded to: Evolution. Woman somewhat understandably get bent up about the clear double standard but they generally fail to grasp that it’s based in biology and not sexism. Men can’t help feeling repulsed by promiscuous Woman( in the context of relationships) no more than a Woman can help being attracted to a tall guy over a short guy. It’s simply our lizard brains being activated and no amount of rational thinking will cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:28 AM
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The amount of Woman who literally have hundreds of new dating options every day who complain about not being able to find any “decent” guys. Really? Not a single “decent” guy among the hundreds-if not thousands-of options at your finger tips. At that point your standards are so ridiculously high that you have to be almost clinically delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:46 PM
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Looks are subjective and everything is relative to an individuals life experience. If in your brain you think Paul Bettany is an “average” looking guy who I am I to dispute it. Good for you. Maybe you’re a model who only hangs out with other models and so in your particular bubble a 6 foot 3 Man who has somehow managed to play romantic leads in mainstream Hollywood movies while bagging himself one of the most desired Woman on the planet is in fact “average” looking. I want to go to the parties y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:50 AM
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Which immediately proves the point I am trying to make. People’s definition of what is “average” within the context of dating is often astonishingly skewed and often leads to hilariously warped relationship expectations. If most “average” people ever met Paul Bettany in real life he would probably be considered one of the most handsome Men they had ever seen. He is married to a Woman often cited as one of the most beautiful Woman in cinema history but he can still be considered a good representa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:32 AM
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Haha. Not sure if this a serious or trolling reply. I am going to assume it’s the former and immediately represents the disconnect between what is “average” in reality against what many people in the dating market consider “average”. Joel David Moore is not a conventionally handsome guy I’ll give you that. However he is a gigantic 6 foot 2. Given the importance many Woman place on height in the dating market he is anything but “average” in real terms. Unlike the “average” guy he is also nowhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:15 AM
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Woman are not as horny as Men. It’s not even close. It’s strange that so many Woman seem to take pride in insisting this is the case-as if it’s a competition. Most average Woman( with all their options) would have the body counts of porn stars and 50 year old prostitutes if they even had close to the libido of the average guy. With this in mind most average Woman are also nowhere near as promiscuous as most average guys seem to think they are. Not even close. Truly promiscuous Woman are outliers…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:46 AM
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Most Men are disgusted by promiscuous Woman because of evolutionary biology rather than sexism or the patriarchy. Woman getting annoyed at this fact is no different than Men getting annoyed at Woman having height preferences. You might as well get annoyed at evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:30 AM
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Woman are attracted to status above all. Including looks and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:22 AM
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Anybody that claims to want a long term relationship but finds themselves perpetually single simply has unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:18 AM
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If the average man had as many sexual options as the average Woman he would literally be a thousand times more promiscuous than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:15 AM
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Most Woman that vocally dislike porn don’t do so for any real ethical reasons. Are these same Woman also boycotting the even more sinister and exploitive fashion, cosmetic and technology industries? I highly doubt it. They hate porn simply because most porn stars are significantly more sexually attractive than they are. Completely understandable but lets call a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:10 AM
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What’s an example of a valuable non simplified original question you have seen posted on a discussion board like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:21 AM
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Because both offer completely unrealistic expectations of sex and relationships and leave the consumer in a perpetual state of dissatisfaction with their actual romantic/sexual life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:54 PM
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“Romantic comedies” and Social media is just as disruptive and damaging to young Woman’s minds and dating lives as hardcore porn is for young Men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:30 PM
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“Betabuxing” has existed in every society for most of human history. Modern Men should be grateful for it as it’s the reason must of them where conceived in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:19 PM
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All a Woman needs to do is maintain a healthy weight and cook a meal once in a while to attract a “high value man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:15 PM
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Because contrary to popular belief online most Woman aren’t promiscuous- regardless of the undoubted opportunities to be so. Woman simply don’t seek out sex in the same way Men do. Men look for abundance( which only a small number of Men can actually obtain) whereas Woman seek out “quality” rather than quantity. Men and Woman have very different desires, libidos and motivations when it comes to sex. The majority of Woman on dating apps-receiving literally hundreds of matches everyday- aren’t act…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:54 PM
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Not sure what the data is on this as I cannot find any recent studies. However I would speculate that it’s a lot less high than many people on this sub would probably assume. Sure most average Woman aged 25 could easily get a new sexual partner-and one out of her looks league- every single night. She could easily add hundreds of new partners to her body count every year if she wanted. This frustrates a lot of guys because that’s exactly what they would do in her shoes but will alas never get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:02 PM
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There is a wealth of data that shows that most Men( regardless of if they are 15 or 80) find Woman in their late teens to early 20’s most attractive. This is because this is when Woman are at there most fertile. As such it is very normal for older guys to be attracted to younger Woman. In fact it would be abnormal if they are not. Do you think given the choice a 60 year old Man would go for a 20 year old or a somebody his own age? Of course it’s very unlikely he’ll ever have that choice but it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:51 PM
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People that have unrealistic relationship standards-I.E pretty much anybody who says they want to be in a relationship but find themselves perpetually single-fail to grasp that every successful relationship is about compromise and settling to some degree. Even billionaires and models are comprising if they are in relationships. The thing is the modern average Woman doesn’t have to compromise to be in a relationship if that relationship isn’t satisfying all her needs-as all her needs can be met o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:30 PM
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If you are both enjoying and having sex every time you initiate what’s the problem? It sounds like his sex drive is simply more or less aligned with yours. You have gotten into the habit of initiating and so it has become your routine. While I understand most Woman want their partner to feel ravenous desire for them they generally also want somebody with a similar libido. Many Woman would think you have got it made and this is only an issue if he is rejecting you. Of course no two peoples sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:50 AM
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While it’s true that in the context of a long term relationship the majority of Men would “prefer” a Virgin; the majority of Men don’t have that option-as they have so few options in the first place. It’s like a Woman saying she would “prefer” her husband to be 6,5 with the looks of a model, the bank balance of a CEO and to be utterly committed to her and her alone. Good luck with that. Unless a guy is going to wife her up at 16 or seek out somebody ultra religious; finding a Virgin for a long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:18 AM
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Saying Woman are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men is the same as saying Men are only attracted to hot and chaste Woman. Every single human being on the planet( even billionaires and super models) that are in successful relationships are still “comprising” somewhat to be in that relationship in the first place. These Woman have just reached a time they realise they aren’t in fact going to lock down their “Prince Charming” so they need to “settle” for the next best thing for if they actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:24 PM
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Depends on how we are defining “The Wall”. If the “The Wall” simply means the point that somebody has started to decline from their peak level of attractiveness than many studies indeed indicate that this happens much earlier in Woman than with Men. All the data shows Woman have peaked in this regard by 25 and Men while Men peak by 35. The key word here though is “peaked”. If “The Wall” means the point where somebody loses their sexual desirability altogether( very different to peaking) than The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:36 AM
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“The Wall” is something that happens to all human beings. Everybody has a peak level of attractiveness and then a clear drop off. The reason there is a notion that the “The Wall” affects Woman more then Men is because from a purely technical it does. At least all the data( which is substantial) strongly indicates it does. Numerous studies suggests that Men( regardless of age) find Woman most sexually attractive between their late teens and early twenties. Virtue signallers might label such Men( …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:40 AM
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It depends how you are defining “cruel”? Men are undoubtedly more violent and aggressive than Woman due to significantly higher testosterone. Just like many Woman refuse to accept the negative differences between Men and Woman when it falls in favour of Men. Many Men refuse to accept that Men are just inherently more violent than Woman. It is what it is. However in terms of psychological cruelty there is nothing to suggest that Woman are any more or less sadistic than Men. We all have the same c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:52 AM
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So what’s the difference for you in terms of guys you are “attracted” to romantically and those you would only consider as a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:46 AM
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What’s the difference between the guys you see as a potential partner and a best friend? I’d wager it is also looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:50 PM
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Depends how far forward you are talking. Eventually we’ll have photorealistic sensory VR where anybody can have access to any sexual partner they desire. At this point nobody- apart from maybe the absolute genetic Gods amongst us-will be going for the “real thing” as the “real thing”will be so less desirable the virtual alternative. Why bang a plain Jane or Mr Average when you can have Margo Robbie or Chris Hemsworth. We’ll all be living in the dating Matrix. This advance in technology will like…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:56 PM
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What makes him different from a betabuxxer? Quite a lot. Betabuxxer’s aren’t generally pumping and dumping 20 year supermodels. They are clinging onto whatever past her prime Woman has settling for him because of his ability to provide. The Woman DiCaprio is dating( and then dumping) are very much in their prime( that’s the point) and despite him now being well past his( in terms of looks) they definitely won’t be thinking they are settling in anyway. On the contrary they will think they have wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:27 PM
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There are countless studies that show Men overwhelmingly find Woman most physically attractive between her late teens and early 20’s. This is regardless of whether a Man is in his teens himself or is in his 80’s. The problem is 99.99 percent of Men don’t have the option to only choose what they are most physically attracted to. They take what they can get. Leonardo DiCaprio-even in his flabby 50’s- is the very rare man that has all the options in the world. He’s simply doing what nearly every ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:33 AM
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Obviously Woman are visually stimulated by the sight of an attractive Man in the same way Men are immediately stimulated by the sight of an attractive Woman. Woman on dating sites aren’t swiping right because the 6,5 foot five male model likes walks on the beach. Henry Cavil doesn’t need to be able to recite poetry-or even have the status of Henry Cavil-to get her panties off. The only difference between Men and Woman In terms of visual stimulation inflaming arousal is that Woman’s “standards” a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:05 AM
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As with most things there is a bit of nuance to this. It’s true that most Woman( in the eyes of most Men) peak in there early twenties when it comes to raw sexual desirability. There is lots of debate on forums like this but the data is very clear. Men find Woman in there late teens/early 20’s most physically attractive. Woman tend to find Men in their late twenties/early thirties most attractive. This is not only because of increased earning potential( which plays almost no role in a Woman’s se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:21 PM
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There is a difference between what people look for in a partner and what they can actually get. This question should probably be rephrased to what do “successful” and “educated” Men value most in a partner. Most “successful” Men are of course also attracted to “successful” and wealthy Woman. It’s truth that most people date within their socioeconomic background and even lawyers and doctors are usually not so wealthy that a partners financial status becomes irrelevant. What’s important in the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:08 PM
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I don’t think it’s so much that Woman “prefer” toxic Men. It’s that many Woman( or people in general) have a limited capacity for self reflection and accountability but over inflated egos. This means that whenever relationship breaks down( as relationships tend to do) it’s suddenly because their once wonderful, can do no wrong partner is “toxic” or “abusive” or “narcissistic”. It’s often a defensive mechanism against the reality that they have been unable to maintain that persons interest. Nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:56 AM
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Good for them. Failing to sow your wild oats in your youth is definitely a regret many people have later in life if they get into a committed long term relationship at a young age. This applies to both Men and Woman. A lot of people that shame somebodies promiscuous past are envious they didn’t have one themselves. However it’s of course not as simple as that. Promiscuity-especially in Woman-is also “shamed” for evolutionary reasons. This goes beyond the usual cries of sexism, double standards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:15 PM
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Gender is not really relevant to this question. Both Men and Woman can and probably will lose sexual attraction to their partner over time because that’s just the nature of getting older and being in a monogamous relationship. Human beings are novelty seeking animals it. Why do so many relationships start off great but soon fizzle out? It’s not because people suddenly see their partners true colours and decide they are completely incompatible. It’s because the novelty of that person has worn off…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:45 PM
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The very simple- though very difficult to action- answer to this question is go do something that means you are no longer “average”. It all comes down to whether one believes we actually have agency and free will-which is a much deeper philosophical discussion- but for the sake of this thread let’s so we do and anybody has the ability to improve their lot with application and will power. If that’s the case there are a myriad of very simple( which is in no way the same as easy) things even the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:41 PM
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This question should really specify whether it relates to Attractive Men or Average Men. The disparity of the groups in terms of dating success is almost the reason a sub like this exists in the first place. Any Woman that says she doesn’t envy Attractive Men in the context of dating is lying. They have all the benefits Woman have in terms of the dating market( Validation and an abundance of free sex) but without the stigma of being perceived as a whore and a lack of sexual gratification from a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:35 AM
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How hard is dating for a 30 year old Woman? If you are as described it’s incredibly easy in terms of the amount of interested Men you will have available to you. Go on any dating app, punch in your profile and you’ll have a hundred matches within a few hours. The only issue is whether any of these( literal millions) of Men interested in you will meet the “high standards” you admit to having.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:45 AM
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Woman are generally attracted to ambitious, career driven Men because they are attracted not to the Man himself but the resources his worth ethic can ultimately provide. If these Woman were genuinely interested in actual human connection they wouldn’t want a partner more invested in their 80 hour a week career than they are with them. Men are generally not interested in career driven Woman because: 1: They want an actual partner and not a resource machine. 2: They fundamentally know that Woman d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:46 PM
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