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1

It really is that simple. And, as noted in this thread and elsewhere, simple isn't the same as easy. I'm stuck because I haven't internalized frame. This manifests itself as anger once in a while but I need to be mad at myself only.
/r/askMRP28/02/20 05:56 PM
2

, I noticed no BF% in your post. What's the over/under on 15% :) I'll take OVER. Online calculator says 12%. Fat isn't my issue.
/r/askMRP27/02/20 04:40 PM
0

Have you read it? It's pretty good.
/r/askMRP25/02/20 12:08 AM
-2

Last one was better. This one has a fortune-cookie ring to it.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 08:35 PM
2

Well, look at that. Some insight on this thread. That's the kind of shit I was looking for. This is good.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 08:27 PM
1

This is insightful and gets to the heart of the matter. When I first saw the post about the present, it was obvious that the way to handle it was humorous nonchalance. But there's no way I could have pulled it off because actually I do care and I do feel threatened. That's all true. My frame isn't really there.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 08:25 PM
-1

To be clear - I started the fight, not her. Hable usted Ingles, Mr. Lebowski?
/r/askMRP24/02/20 08:08 PM
1

And have your sloppy seconds? No thanks.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:56 PM
1

I was going Crossfit until last spring and then, predictably, fucked my shoulder. A few months rehab and then started 5x5 SL last fall. My upper body lifts are still lagging, no doubt, but I think I got some traction in the past month or so. (Also, body weight is 165 lbs)
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:24 PM
1

A painting made by someone they both used to work with. Again, it's the fact that she didn't tell me. Her logic is "IRYR doesn't like this so I'll hide it from him". Red flag. Sure, but it's a particular man that she and I have had fights about in the past. As someone else said this was probably best handled with nonchalance or humor, but that's just not what I did.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:11 PM
1

as you become more consistent in boundary-setting, especially emotionless boundary setting, the less she'll try to push you. The less this stuff'll come up. It hardly comes up now. The birthday present (which HE posted about, not HER) was the first manifestation in a long time. But where there's smoke there's fire. The fact that she hid it from me is the major red flag.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:07 PM
2

Yes, I see this and you're right. But no matter how AG & U compare, they're still less than AG + U. That is, if she believes she can get away with playing a game and remaining in a relationship, she will do that. How do you make it clear that's not the case? STFU only takes you so far. That's where I get lost.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:04 PM
1

Good perspective and right on many counts. Yes, same guy.
/r/askMRP24/02/20 07:00 PM
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Instead you should have inquisitively said "So, did John like the Axe Body Spray you bought him for his promotion?" all nice and supportive like. Yep, exactly. Back when this all started, that struck me as being the right approach. But, like I said in the post, she was in the midst of a pretty large trauma and I buried the whole thing without bringing it up. The way I did bring it up was supremely stupid, but that's done now. No time machine. You should have zero fear of losing her because you c…
/r/askMRP24/02/20 06:58 PM
2

With all the emphasis on getting in touch with your fee-fees it's easy to forget that it's okay not to cry. Sometimes it just isn't there or that just isn't how your psyche wants to deal with this particular input. And it's perfectly fine.
/r/askMRP26/12/19 11:46 AM
2

To me this also represents just how tangled the culture around marriage/cheating/ polygamy has become. I don't think this is a permanent feature of American life, but it underscores why getting married is a no-go in today's social climate. The feminine imperative must be protected at all costs and if you stand in the way you'll be shredded like the rest.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/19 12:32 PM
3

Another way to look at this is that we are all descended from these bad-asses.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/19 12:39 PM
50

Start wearing shorts that say "not gay" on the ass.
/r/askTRP15/11/19 05:40 AM
1

I assume he has a curly blonde wig and a skimpy blue dress.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/11/19 01:36 AM
-5

Lawyer up.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/19 05:12 PM
1

Not at all. That's implied with everything here - you're an adult, do what you want.
/r/askMRP05/11/19 06:30 PM
2

Save it for a long drive. Lol.
/r/askMRP05/11/19 05:47 PM
4

Maybe the spirit was speaking in a colloquialism from a bygone era and meant "gay" in the sense of "happy". Turns out it was right. Booyah.
/r/askMRP05/11/19 04:28 PM
7

If you're following Deida's definition of purpose, then you're right that lifting, athleticism, etc is the wrong model. He has a 5 hr YouTube, uh, lecture where he goes into this a little more fully than he does in TWOTSM. He describes anything that moves or changes ("dances") as being feminine while the masculine is identified with things that don't change. These would be concepts like consciousness, truth, etc. Look at it this way. Let's say that tomorrow you find out that for some reason you …
/r/askMRP05/11/19 04:25 PM
1

Those do sound a lot cooler than what I was picturing.
/r/askTRP31/10/19 01:15 AM
3

No one is intimidated by curls.
/r/askTRP30/10/19 04:00 AM
2

Wait, there are girls who don't do this?
/r/askTRP27/10/19 12:20 AM
17

Her: Give me your money while I go fuck other guys. Beta: Well I guess that's only fair.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/19 06:11 PM
1

Red Pill gold comment.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/19 06:08 PM
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It is the job of adults to guide children and their development. This means saying no and taking things away from children. Even if the boy is identifying as Luna at school, the job of the parent is to place guiderails on this behavior or, even better, play it cool until it inevitably passes. It isn't uncommon for young children to go through periods of gender confusion. It also isn't uncommon for parents to have the desire to indulge their kids. The problem arises when the parents themselves ha…
/r/TheRedPill22/10/19 06:42 PM
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If OP is a newbie I'd suggest Book of Pook instead. I just finished my second reading of WOTSM. It is an advanced book. I had a lot of trouble with it the first time around. Maybe it helps with the anger phase a little in the early stages. But my overriding reaction on my first read was that I just couldn't live up to this vision.
/r/askMRP08/10/19 10:34 PM
1

You might be gay. It's all right.
/r/askMRP08/10/19 06:48 PM
71

To lift? Yes, definitely.
/r/askTRP07/10/19 12:13 PM
1

Yes. I'm married and mostly follow MRP, but it has worked. I don't know that it has improved my marriage per se, but I am much more able to get what I want sexually and otherwise now. I feel like this is shit I should have learned 20 years ago and maybe certain people around me were trying to tell me. The most important message TRP delivers is that you can change yourself but be prepared to work and to be patient.
/r/askTRP07/10/19 11:35 AM
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Do you think chad is sitting there wringing his hands over the state of the world? Uou see it that way because you fundamentally view yourself as a victim. You won't get past the anger phase or make true progress until you understand that this isn't the case. The question isn't "is the world operating the way I would like it to?" It is "How do I succeed in this environment?".
/r/askTRP06/10/19 12:10 PM
1

She can do math like anyone else. She's counting on white knights to fall all over themselves to help with the revolution.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/19 03:02 PM
4

There's a great movie called "Log Jammin'". It was produced by the inimitable Jackie Treehorn.
/r/askMRP03/10/19 05:59 PM
1

What's with oat flour? I've seen this other places
/r/MarriedRedPill03/10/19 11:08 AM
1

You have to write a song about it.
/r/askTRP02/10/19 11:37 AM
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I say this as someone with no real connection to The Red Pill. You didn't need to say that. We could tell. Your infatuation with mommy Matrix rather than developing your own frame is a dead giveaway.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/19 04:47 PM
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OWN YOUR SHIT #4 10/01/2019 45, 3 kids, married 16 years. Started unplugging 1 year ago. Problem areas: Beta-orbiting, frame, leadership. Physical 5’8” 160, 12 pct BF, DL 335, BS 295, BP 175 – rotator cuff problems, lifting light and rehab protocols – motherfucker. Transitioning to a new life / lifestyle – recently moved to a new town and simultaneously fucked up my shoulder. I was doing Crossfit, but I think I’m done with that. Looking for lifting gyms in a new town. Meanwhile rehabbing my shou…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/10/19 12:39 PM
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Prime Facebook demographic
/r/TheRedPill29/09/19 01:37 PM
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This guy's story is a good example of where TRP and PUA part ways. It's right at the end when he says, in effect, "I might hurting people but I don't care. A lot of people have hurt me". Alarm bells ring. No frame. Despite supposedly having 1000 numbers in his phone he still views this as an act of vengeance. Some of the comments are pretty accurate in calling him out on this. No one hurt this guy. He hurt himself because he didn't understand the rules or the game. Likewise he isn't hurting wome…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 12:43 PM
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"Watch what they do, not what they say"
/r/askTRP28/09/19 12:10 PM
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The first rule of fight club.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 11:53 AM
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"I am not a victim" A lot of guys on this sub - myself as exhibit A - would do well to internalize the fact that they are NOT a victim. The long-time posters certainly give the impression that they have this locked away in their subconscious. But it's really the newbs that need this. There is actually a lot of RP wisdom tied up in that phrase.
/r/askMRP27/09/19 12:47 PM
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The part I liked best was the blue pill or nice guy "if I give her my coins she'll let me keep playing". This is obviously about validation and about keeping or dissipating the one asset you have - your attention. In that sense, PUAs and BP guys have something in common - they are seeking validation through their interactions with women. The outcome of this is obviously a lot different between the two groups, but they end up in the same spot, which is no internal validation. It comes up on this …
/r/askMRP25/09/19 06:23 PM
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A better lesson is to read the sidebar and to make that obvious before posting here. There's a pinned post that you should not skip which is called "Cut the Shit". AskMRP is admittedly for newbies and dumb questions. But even at that, you need to put in the work before asking strangers for help. Be the captain and only call the Coast Guard when it is absolutely necessary.
/r/askMRP25/09/19 05:03 PM
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Start leaving love letters around the house. It arouses the female.
/r/askMRP23/09/19 02:04 AM
0

"That shit will poison your mind and eat your soul for breakfast"
/r/askTRP15/09/19 08:39 PM
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I love this gem: "The researchers also recommend studying the factors which might prevent women’s sexual desire from declining, such as “being more willing to meet a partner’s sexual needs, believing that sex takes work, and expecting sexual desire to fluctuate.” See? You can just blue pill your way out of it! Lots of helpful shoulders to cry on over at Dead Bedrooms.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/09/19 08:31 PM
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This isn't good for the kids either. They are more intuitive than you give them credit for. Move on. Make the transition into the next phase of your life. Don't use them as an excuse for inertia. (Edit - redpillbrigade is changing my mind on this, but I'll leave this comment up - good luck, brother)
/r/askMRP14/09/19 12:19 PM
3

Twice
/r/askMRP12/09/19 12:06 PM
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Look, you are the captain. What's your opinion of Propel? That's the right opinion. Not sure? Do some homework and decide. How do you know when the house is cleaned up after a party? Because you decided it was done. Think more needs to be done? Then do it. At the very early stages, passing a shit test can be as simple as acting like you didn't hear a word she said. Double points for maintaining a shit-eating grin while you do so.
/r/askMRP09/09/19 03:33 AM
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"I'm sitting here drinking by myself on a weekend night and my brain is telling me to stop doing this." Your brain is right on this one.
/r/askTRP08/09/19 12:11 PM
1

Because that's how you see them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 01:50 AM
5

Well, don't forget about the mortgage. If you pay it after the 15th there's an additional fee.
/r/askMRP05/09/19 04:50 PM
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Jesus Christ. Forget about the store for a second. What if you were paying Bill's and your wife said "Be sure to pay the mortgage too" or you are cleaning up the living room and she goes "Make sure you fold up the afghans". Like, no shit. That's the point. It's a weird and insidious compliance test.
/r/askMRP05/09/19 02:51 PM
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This is the #1 shit test I get from my wife. They've calmed down a lot in the past few months. I can't tell you precisely how I passed them (and therefore how you should pass them). But just think for a second how childish and desperate a move it is on her part. It's actually funny enough for sitcom material. I think that's the mental space you need to operate in. She doesn't trust you to lead just yet but she knows the power dynamic is shifting. As you were, captain. Keep paying out the 1000 ft…
/r/askMRP05/09/19 11:21 AM
1

The key is that all of this takes a looong time and so it's very easy to think you gave it a shot after a month, 3 months, 6 months.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 09:32 PM
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It's ironic, isn't it? Red Pill 101 says become your own mental point of origin and yet nearly all of the discussion revolves around women.
/r/askTRP04/09/19 08:53 PM
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Honestly, I think that they, like many BP men, don't conceive of themselves as having a choice in the matter. They figure "I'm ugly, that's just who I am". Either that or they are in an LTR with a man that they either actively despise or who they have thoroughly emasculated.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 07:04 PM
0

But his mom gives the best - "validation".
/r/askMRP04/09/19 10:54 AM
2

Bad news: Your post. Good news: You found this site somehow. Now your journey begins.
/r/askMRP03/09/19 02:06 AM
1

Nothing wrong with cardio. It'll serve you well when you decide to cut. It also adds variety and gives you some good bro-bonding opportunities.
/r/askMRP02/09/19 08:17 PM
1

The desire to rush in and figure everything out at once extends far beyond just lifting. RP progress is measured on timescales of months and years. You're reprogramming your whole attitude about your existence. It takes a while.
/r/askMRP02/09/19 06:00 PM
2

Yeah. Part of the reason I think intermittent fasting wouldn't take much more for me.
/r/askTRP01/09/19 06:17 PM
4

Do you have resources on intermittent fasting? I'm interested.
/r/askTRP01/09/19 02:59 PM
2

Chicken breast cooked w/o oil or spices in a pan, 1 sweet potato quartered, microwaved and browned a little in the same pan, a giant pile of fresh veggies, and a few dates. Leftovers are lunch. Sometimes a bowl of oatmeal with dates or fruit. Fish oil and vitamin D supplements.
/r/askTRP01/09/19 02:25 PM
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Every fucking day. You got this.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/19 01:20 PM
1

Like they get in the way or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 06:03 PM
1

You mean it's the one on the pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:48 PM
0

What's the fairer sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 12:01 PM
1

Lurk around on MRP for a while. You'll start to see the difference. Yes, AWALT and all of that. But what is demanded of you on an LTR is different from what is demanded of you in plate-spinning. Beta is not entirely a dirty word in an LTR. You need to mix some alpha (attraction, leadership, dominance) with some beta (comfort and affection) in order for a relationship to work. Don't confuse beta for gamma. I.e. you aren't lazy and you don't lose frame. But you will transition from purely shit tes…
/r/askTRP29/08/19 07:40 PM
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I'm just going to come out and thank OP for posting this. I'm having a similar set of issues. The comments here are great, as always. And this really gets to the issue that MRP is about changing yourself and that's it. The changes to your marriage, family, LTR, etc are a byproduct. And yet many of the problems that arise - as varied as they are, stem from a similar set of your own fuckups or half-assery.
/r/askMRP28/08/19 12:17 AM
2

On a much finer scale, I honestly think there's a lot to be learned from walking up to a barbell thinking "I don't know if I can lift this" and then giving it a shot anyhow. TRP asks us to get outside of our comfort zone and this is a very controlled way of doing that.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/19 06:33 PM
0

Right. She bears no responsibility in any of this OP must not besmircheth the honorable lady.
/r/seduction24/08/19 02:23 PM
1

Seems to be a lot of demand, maybe add an edit with the link?
/r/askTRP23/08/19 05:29 PM
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In my homeland Coolitii is an exceedingly common surname. This happens all the time, comrade.
/r/askTRP23/08/19 04:28 PM
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Okay, but your missing the point. The guy on the right, while he could use a giant dose of "cool", wouldn't even show up on this post if it weren't for the muscles. Imagine him a little overweight with a messy black tshirt and a stupid tattoo on a flabby forearm. In other words, what if he looked like most of the other incels his age. The point is that through discipline and hard work he achieved a top percentile physique. Next someone tell him to chill out a little and have fun and he'll blow M…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:14 PM
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Okay, I re-read your comment and realized I jumped to conclusions the first time around. My apologies. For what it's worth, I'm in the midst of raising two sons right now. It's a scary time for them.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/19 10:42 PM
1

We really have to stop this kind of complaining. We know that the current climate disfavors traditional masculinity. But at some point it becomes victim puking rather than discussing how to move forward. Besides, no one, not ever, is going to willingly cede control to you, no matter how many Y chromosomes you have. View the current climate as a grand shit test that you must pass rather than an inescapable swamp.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/19 08:50 PM
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I can't help myself. I would tell him.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/19 06:00 PM
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Why do so many of Dalrock's posts seem unfinished? This one begins with an intriguing - and demonstrably true - premise, but stops short of delving into anything concrete or difficult. For example it is noted that the role of fathers is relegated to that of aunt or babysitter. True enough. But that suggests something is missing. What is it? Leadership, boundaries, discipline, vision? If so, where do we look for guidance on these roles for the father? This is especially urgent because many of us …
/r/TheRedPill21/08/19 05:51 PM
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It's harder than you may think.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/19 05:44 PM
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This is an amazing reply. I'm still in awe of the vets who can reach back and synthesize old posts like this.
/r/askMRP20/08/19 02:54 AM
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I'm on the "talk to no one" plan. Sure, I talk all day long at work. But never about my fears or my feelz. I used to buy into the "let it all out, dear" philosophy and sought out a good emotional conversation. But, inevitably, those left me feeling thoroughly unsatisfied. I honestly question the whole assumption that we even need a shoulder to cry on. Is that really what you need or are you parroting a shit test (that you failed) from a former girlfriend? I find that beating the shit out of my b…
/r/askMRP17/08/19 02:44 AM
2

I've heard the ego described as a sort of filter that shunts inputs into conscious vs subconscious bins. It is needed because you can't simultaneously be aware of all input and so you need a way to prioritize the inputs. If you use this definition it sounds a lot like frame. The application of this in a relationship would be if you receive a challenge to your identity and your filter goes "not important, subconscious". I guess what we're trying to do here is willfully alter that filter. My perso…
/r/askMRP11/08/19 08:37 PM
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There will be stumbles in the dark as always but you will find that light regardless of how dim and move towards it. You know you want to be better and therefore you need to be comfortable in the darkness and embrace it. I just moved my family and started a new position in my organization. This was a high-stress period that required constant leadership and decision-making. I made mistakes left and right but in the end we got where we were going. I never blamed or made excuses. Despite the stress…
/r/askMRP11/08/19 05:25 PM
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Ha! You know you want to hear me talk about wall balls. Slowly. In a falsetto. With a lisp.
/r/askMRP04/08/19 04:59 PM
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You have the timeline backwards. Red pillers believe that there was a time when social norms maximized the possibility that the male sacrifices were met with the rewards of husbandship and fatherhood. This system developed over thousands of years and its most stable manifestation was the two-parent heterosexual marriage. As this institution faded and came under attack, marriage held less benefit and security for men. This happened along with a general denigration of the male role in relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 12:20 PM
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This comes up every couple of months on this subreddit and the advice is always the same: Don't talk about fight club. You have the right instincts. Proceed. I got confused by this one too.
/r/askMRP04/08/19 01:29 AM
1

Have you read Mystery Method? A lot of good advice in there. But the one that always sticks with me is his advice to go out four days a week for four hours and open a set every 20 minutes. That's 48 set openings PER WEEK. That's abundance. And you'll fuck up 80 percent of them. My point is that while it's good to try to learn from your experiences, one HB6 from Bumble is honest to God not worth a 3000 word essay. You took away an important lesson. And thanks for sharing it with us. Now, continue…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/19 11:53 AM
2

I find CF to be awesome for overall conditioning, socializing, learning unusual skills, pushing yourself to the brink multiple times per week, and branching out into other athletic endeavors. For strict lifting gains - including OLY - it's probably not the place. The volume, intensity, and focus is simply not on max lifting or developing the supporting muscles. Look, you just can't squeeze in gymnastics, running, lifting, metcon, odd-object, agility and expect to specialize in any of those. The …
/r/askMRP27/07/19 03:12 AM
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Made in the gym, revealed in the kitchen.
/r/askMRP23/07/19 11:09 PM
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If anyone is wounded by an inevitable discussion about diet on a post that is specifically about dieting and exercise, they should likewise spend three months off of the internet and grow some thicker skin.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/19 08:55 PM
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George Foreman grill?? All that does is encourage the consumption of grains and unnecessarily boost your intake of high glycemic index foods that have been shown to be allergenic to a large percentage of the population. Get a microwave and eat lightly microwaved sweet potatoes with raw vegetables and a legit source of protein like grilled chicken, steak, fish, or eggs. After a while you won't even want anything else.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/19 07:52 PM
2

Interesting. Any pointers on how to improve this? Any books or sidebar material you would recommend?
/r/askMRP03/07/19 04:44 AM
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Yeah, but for us autistic fucks, we think of this shit 15 minutes too late.
/r/askMRP01/07/19 10:38 PM
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A fine plan for a family in 2019 is either offspring without marriage or kids and marriage and an ironclad prenup. Of course all of this assumes the guy has enough frame and Red Pill awareness to realize that he is entering into a medium-term contract with the express intent of having kids. Take care of yourself, be alert for the inevitable signs that it is over, and have the belly to kill the puppy when needed. And - be a great father and role model to your kiddos.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/19 02:24 AM
3

Lift. Sidebar. ----->
/r/askMRP26/06/19 03:45 AM
1

I'll leave it to Banky from Chasing Amy to explain - Banky: Variety's the spice of life. I like a wide selection. Sometimes I'm in the mood for nasty close-ups, sometimes I like them arty and air-brushed. Sometimes it's a spread brown-eye kind of night, sometimes it's girl-on-girl time. Sometimes a steamy letter will do it, sometimes—not often, but sometimes—I like the idea of a chick with a horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:55 PM
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Because you don't believe he could / would ever leave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:03 AM
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I should have worried about it more than I did 16 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:02 AM
2

You can be vulnerable anytime you want. It's up to you. You just have to be willing to deal with the fallout from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:01 AM
1

One other thing - It's great that you seem to be making progress, but your post suggests to me that you aren't really changing internally. I always like the saying "internal victories precede external victories". If you get ahead of yourself, life will knock you back to your actual DL. Go slow. Follow the steps. Don't shortchange future you.
/r/askMRP10/06/19 07:16 PM
1

What does beta -orbiting mean exactly? THIS is why you need to read sidebar. Essentially this is being friendzoned by a woman. Or maintaining a relationship with a female acquaintance that you'd like to fuck, but it simply won't happen for whatever reason. QUESTION: How do you handle the good old "You have changed, you're not the same guy anymore"? This sounds like a comfort test. With this particular formulation I'd say 1) ignore (literallyact like you didn'thear it); 2) agree and amplify (my d…
/r/askMRP10/06/19 07:05 PM
2

Man, what a mess. This will be a fascinating story either way. Still, stay plan / go plan etc. My sense is that despite the half-assed implementation of MRP, you haven't really started the Dread process. You might think you can skip some steps like you're installing a light fixture or something, but the stages are real. The first stage you need to hit is to take pussy off the pedestal, after that you start gaining independence. This is like DL 1-3 or something. Work on that stuff. Post in OYS, r…
/r/askMRP10/06/19 05:50 PM
1

Having a passion for a particular subject can become a trap quickly. It's better to have a passion for a capacity- like leadership or discipline or self-improvement. I wouldn't sit around waiting for that one magical lightning bolt to part the skies. Every job will have its shitty days and shitty times and you just need to power through these. I think listening to Jovko Willink or Jordan Peterson would help you.
/r/askMRP08/06/19 02:09 PM
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Fine, but it's a heuristic everyone here knows and can relate to. Sure, at some point the structures disappear, but most of us don't get to that point w/o some guidance.
/r/askMRP08/06/19 02:03 PM
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There's a reason RP calls this the female rationalization hamster. The answers to those questions have to be understood as being part of the smokescreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:01 PM
1

Look, if anyone doesn't want to put in the work to make themselves sexually desirable that's perfectly fine. When large groups make this decision, you get statistics like those in the WaPo article. I'm not judging but I'm also not going to pretend like it's someone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 01:10 AM
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Bottom line is that people, especially men, can receive pleasure from things like video games, pornhub, alcohol, etc with a much lower investment than is required to do something like make yourself desirable to women around you IRL. So it's easy to take yourself off the market and greatly buffer the downsides it has on your pleasure receptors. In short, a lot of guys have made themselves undesirable and have stopped having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 09:03 PM
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People's reward system is totally screwed up. I've been off of video games for about a year and I still catch myself daydreaming about certain games I played years ago. Success in a video game (or on Pornhub) is indistinguishable from IRL success as far as your endocrine system goes. The nostalgia I have for video games is entirely a product of the good feelings that arise from success in those games. I'll just submit here that I'm not generally a lazy or dimwitted person. But reorienting someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:39 PM
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Well, anyhow, OP has other problems and the eternal Crossfit vs conventional lifting debate isn't going to be solved here. But if it works for him and he likes it, then he should do it.
/r/askMRP30/05/19 05:16 AM
1

Gonna have to disagree about Crossfit. The lifestyle and community aspects of it are great bonuses to the red pill journey - if your body can take it. Crossfit demands a lot of obedience to nutrition, form, schedule, pacing, modifications. It puts you in mixed company with some of the hottest women you are likely to encounter. It drives you forward. It creates social outlets for autistic fucks. You'll bond with some incredible athletes. I've made a ton of friends through crossfit and have transf…
/r/askMRP30/05/19 03:47 AM
2

Welcome to the club. And Crossfit kicks ass, by the way.
/r/askMRP30/05/19 03:37 AM
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Except masculinity is not completion. It's a daily struggle against entropy.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/19 01:39 PM
1

I'll just add that I'm honestly exasperated that my bullshit radars are turned up to 11. /u/TheeSweeney is right that these sorts of anecdotes, as instructive as they are, don't necessarily add up to an epidemic of false accusations. Healthy skepticism is good and warranted but wholesale conspiracy-theory-level dismissal is not helpful.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/19 05:03 PM
2

Great comment. And, yes, I'm in the midst of recalibrating toward a RP view and so will overshoot on certain issues. I agree that the incidence of outright false reporting is likely to be low. But I worry to a much larger degree about how perceptions drive narrative when it comes to sexual harrassment / assault. In effect what becomes criminalized is not behavior per se but rather the perpetrator. The desirable HVM can get away with a lot more than the socially awkward beta. We already know this…
/r/TheRedPill21/05/19 08:29 PM
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I hate this shit for the obvious reasons and also because I now have such a high degree of skepticism around accusations of sexual misconduct. Ugh. Damn you, red pill. Is it too late to take the blue one?
/r/TheRedPill21/05/19 03:42 AM
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It's very interesting that being a stay at home spouse was no problem before the baby. Lol.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/19 07:18 PM
4

Many of us came to Red Pill with our wives or LTRs on a pedestal. Most of us needed affection in the beginning. At some point the focus goes off of the woman and on yourself. Could be tomorrow, next week, a month, 3 months, 6 months, maybe longer. But you won't make any progress until that happens. Lift. Sidebar. Repeat.
/r/askMRP19/05/19 03:19 AM
4

What I find so frustrating is that family instability is fostered on both the Left and the Right albeit through different means. The article hints at this but then examines the role of feminism (which is obviously important) to the exclusion of other factors. The Left, while it argues for higher wages for lower and middle class workers, which would help solidify the male position in the family, is obviously hostile to the family unit in other important ways. The Right claims to have the best int…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/19 11:22 PM
1

Nice job. Any tips on how to maintain? I find my systems work well until I get into "oh shit" mode.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/05/19 11:55 AM
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One element missing from high volume / low weight exercises is a simple element of fear and, by extension, putting that fear aside to better yourself. I'm a Crossfitter and I love it. But I will make time once every few months to work up to a 1 rep max on something. The feeling of walking up to a barbell and not really knowing if you can lift it is different somehow - especially with complex OLY movements (not that you need these). You feel dumb for having fear, but there it is. RP asks you to p…
/r/askMRP14/05/19 09:39 PM
2

Forget about the outward expression of rage against men. Look past the headlines and blue hair and vocalization of anger. These are grand, collective, unconscious shit tests. It would be like kids banding together to say they don't need parents anymore. You would find it amusing. And as soon as an adult showed up with popsicles and bags of chips the whole thing would dissolve. Women need men. We know that. Women also "know" that, but it expresses itself differently in them. They need to push bac…
/r/askTRP14/05/19 01:37 PM
3

He truly owes it to the most responsible teenager he knows.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/19 05:15 PM
1

Learning to make connections and network is part of the process. Of course! That's precisely where I'm stuck. I know you weren't talking to me but that really resonated with me.
/r/askMRP10/05/19 03:06 AM
1

Transitive property. No fixing needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:02 AM
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The creepiness occurs when the helpless, adorable kitten suddenly reveals that it has sexual desires. Just being socially awkward, in and of itself, isn't creepy. It's the combination of this with sexual interest that creates creepiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 04:08 PM
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"Creepy" = socially unskilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 01:18 PM
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Seems like most of the guys here have done it solo. That's probably a better way anyhow. A lot of the RP journey is about learning to internalize certain principles and make them a part of your persona. Ultimately, you need to rely upon yourself so might as well start that way. I'm not going to pretend that it's easy, particularly in the beginning, but a high value man isn't looking for easy. I'm also a little uneasy about the concept of an MRP support group. It's so easy to get stuck in blaming…
/r/askMRP09/05/19 01:17 PM
1

I mostly hang out in the MRP universe. Men there typically did all the things you're "supposed" to do as a man and still wound up in a bad spot. This isn't the fault of their wives, it's a problem of using an incorrect strategy. They will 100% own up to this - or at least that's the goal. MRP exists to provide an alternate vision and, most importantly, an implementation plan. It sounds barbaric by 21st century standards, but there appears to be a lot of proof that it works. And if it works, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 11:36 AM
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I think you have it backwards. Men discover the manosphere after the tales they've been told about what it means to be honest, emotional, hard-working, and respectable have landed them in a dead bedroom or much much worse. The manosphere is an outcome. Not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 10:56 PM
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Sorry, I should have completed my thought. You won't be shown sympathy if you allow yourself to become emotionally needy. I'm happy for the love and respect that your grandfather receives.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/19 04:18 AM
1

But acting like it's all or nothing makes Redditing so much easier!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 03:17 AM
1

They probably just want to open up and have their partner listen to them, but those partners don't seem to like when they do it. If you have to remember one thing from this article, it is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 01:50 AM
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One of my favorite quotes: "not only are [men] less likely than women to pursue mental health help, but once they do, they have a hard time expressing their emotions." Men are not biologically wired to share emotions. Why? Because when we do, women dry up and move on, which is the point of this article.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 12:37 AM
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Nevertheless, the point is clear - your woman DOES NOT want to know about your feelz.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 12:34 AM
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I saw this and read it and actually found it very informative. It reads like a hyperbole of sidebar material. I recommend reading it and understanding what's going on here. It is a shit test writ large. You could hardly design a better beta trap. This was one of my favorite quotes: "no one has ever asked [men] what masculinity means to them, and they’ve never asked themselves" If the editor realized how revolutionary this statement was, it never would have been left in the article. It is taken a…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/19 12:31 AM
5

Excellence doesn't come overnight. I think this is a key to the whole thing. Improvement takes time. Failures and backsliding will inevitably happen. Even if you have an overarching goal of improving, there are medium-term, short-term, and immediate actions you need to map out and follow. Another key is the Seven Habits principle that "internal victories precede external victories". You will most likely experience a period of time where you understand the progress you are making but it isn't imp…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/04/19 01:52 PM
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But she will be struggling against her desire for the rest of her life. When the secure guy packs on a few extra pounds, struggles in his career, fails a few shit tests, and loses some of his youthful exuberance, he's a sitting duck to be cheated on a divorce-raped. All because he lived his life in a way that provides for himself, his wife, and presumably his kids. And when shit does hit the fan, society will assume it was his fault. It's the latter half of the story that makes men bitter and le…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 11:41 AM
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Once we've recognized the habits we want to change, how do we address them? How do we create new habits? I like the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People philosophy pertaining to this. It states that "internal victories precede external victories". That is, you must master yourself first. There is no other way. And the external victories are essentially byproducts. But the real goal is self-mastery.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/04/19 04:00 AM
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If you haven't read "The most responsible teenager in the house" yet, I recommend that you do. Beyond that, think of them as essentially children. Do you get mad at a child for drinking too much juice or watching too much TV? No. You set expectations and a reward system. You can't expect them to have the insight you have about what is ultimately best for them. They need guidance and understanding.
/r/askTRP15/04/19 03:01 PM
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Crossfit is highly social. As one poster put it - it's impossible not to make friends doing Crossfit. I understand I'm in the cult to some extent, but there's a lot of truth to it.
/r/seduction14/04/19 03:32 PM
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Great post. As always, despite the truth of what you are saying, the call to action on our part is to accept this truth and then work to make ourselves and other men as strong as possible. It's easy to let this sort of thing lead you to the anger phase. Resist that. Keep working.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/19 03:14 AM
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They do such a thorough job of it that we have no existing record.
/r/askTRP12/04/19 06:12 PM
1

Men and women have different power bases. Men have the power of force, authority, and logic. Women have the power of words, information, and seduction. What looks like blatant force over women is simply an unchecked and straightforward use of male power.
/r/askTRP12/04/19 12:08 PM
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Personally, I value big asses because when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face you get SPRUNG.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:12 PM
1

We want pictures. From a, uh, purely hetero point of view
/r/askTRP11/04/19 09:28 PM
2

When I take my kids to the pool I swear I'm the only one in the whole place over the age of 15 without a tattoo.
/r/askTRP10/04/19 06:59 PM
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Picture a 4 year old calling you a poopy head. What would your response be? Would that hurt your feelings? Would you say "Now look here, you don't talk to your very important elder in such a way". Or would you clap your hand to your head and go "poop? On my head? Not again! The birds must have done it!".
/r/TheRedPill10/04/19 06:56 PM
5

Talking about Fight Club, eh? You didn't say it ended badly so I assume it didn't. I have a running buddy that I suspect is Red Pilled. We talk about pertinent topics, but have never broached Fight Club or even core topics like hypergamy or AWALT. Beyond that I have yet to bring it up in real life.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/04/19 12:08 PM
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I won a 5k race a few weeks ago. My time sucked but there wasn't much competition. My wife continually brings it up.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/04/19 12:04 PM
3

Sure, and taking warm showers is fine too. The point is to maximize yourself. If insomnia is holding you back, proper diet and avoiding alcohol can be very effective.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/19 12:07 AM
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No, if I had to guess I'd say it's probably dairy. But I'm continuing the diet because it works for me. In terms of alcohol consumption, don't underestimate the multitude of effects it can have on you. Plus it is highly addicting in the right body. I drank 2-3 drinks on most nights for a decade or more. At times it would creep up into 4 a night. I don't recommend this. Go clean for a while and see what happens.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 11:07 PM
2

I struggled with insomnia off and on for most of my life. Because sleep is so central to endocrine function, recovery, and a host of other important processes, you can imagine how something like this can limit your progress. I tried a lot of the recommended behaviors to minimize it but to no avail. Melatonin helped a little. A few months ago I drastically altered my diet. I eliminated many foods known to be allergenic- dairy, gluten, legumes, alcohol, etc. I've been eating relatively clean since…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 10:06 PM
2

Hey, watch it. Not all of us are injured.
/r/askMRP07/04/19 04:05 AM
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Yeah, it's interesting how much of what we refer to as "red pill" could also be called "pre 1990 masculinity ".
/r/askTRP05/04/19 10:15 PM
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Do they have tattoos? Because tattoos are a huge turnoff for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:23 AM
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I've always been a little confused about the concept of hypergamy as it is defined in Red Pill philosophy. Because, as OP points out, of course men are hypergamous as well. What strikes me as unique about what the Red Pill is saying is that what women consider to be "high value" in a man is first of all quite different from what the typical husband / Nice Guy believes and second that women can hold simultaneously different definitions of value depending upon what they need from a man. A good har…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:22 AM
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You get one or two Christmases where you feel like a good father from the 1950s. Then reality hits that it is 2019 and down you go. So, if falling into the depths is worth a few Hallmark moments to you, then definitely get married!
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/19 02:38 AM
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I agree with all of this, but I find that on occasion it does help to put myself in a woman's shoes for perspective. For example, think about openers with women and how we tend to overthink them. What you say doesn't really matter. It's how you say it and simply the flattery of attention that matters. The best way for me to conceptualize this is to picture an HB6 or so that comes up and starts a conversation with you. First, she increases SMV just because she's doing a lot of work for me. Second…
/r/TheRedPill03/04/19 10:46 PM
1

Don't confuse pointing out the reality of a situation with the assignment of blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:48 PM
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Big changes happen by the cumulative effects of a lot of small changes. They also take time. Don't underestimate how long it will take or the progress you will ultimately make. Read the sidebar. If you don't have the Red Pill downloadable book collection I recommend getting it. You'll get there. Good luck, brother.
/r/askTRP03/04/19 03:18 AM
2

Hence the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:33 PM
2

Guys enter marriage primarily with the wrong social / relational model and therefore mistakenly ignore the legal ramifications. The ignorance of men is foremost about the nature of women and less so about the law It's important to bear in mind that there is no "fault" on either side. It's just that men typically fail to understand the 21st century version of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:22 PM
2

Not at all. They marry without comprehending the facts. The Red Pill exists to delve into those facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:09 PM
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And, by way of contrast, look at how the media is treating Joe Biden for nonsexual touching occurring in broad daylight in front of hundreds or even thousands of people. Women simply are not held to the same standards as men. This is the kind of boundary-testing that children do all the time. And the best way to respond is to maintain the boundary. This is where men are failing. They see women testing the boundaries and men use their feelz rather than their rationality to respond.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/19 12:56 PM
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https://youtu.be/PtuVA4NOm0I
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:29 PM
2

Care to expand upon that? Let's say a man's natural inclination is to keep quiet about his feelz and carry on, soldier. Because these are encoded through evolutionary pressures. Meanwhile societal pressures are for him to open up and express his doubts and fears. Now we have it from the horse's mouths that this causes revulsion and loss of respect. Then a man should listen to the evolutionary approved behaviors rather than societal misdirections.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:45 PM
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So, in other words, the ways in which your biology is already telling you to behave are, as it turns out, correct. You knew the answers all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:19 PM
1

So, in other words, don't assume that a quality woman is constantly being approached by men. It's quite possible that she is surrounded by orbiters and guys too nervous to even speak with her.
/r/askTRP30/03/19 04:34 AM
1

Ha! Of course. Poor choice of words on my part. My point was that there is left-wing resistance to identity politics in addition to the more common right wing resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:28 AM
2

I don't think so. The total disconnect between productivity and wages and the outsourcing of increasingly sophisticated labor are not caused by societal devaluation of the family unit. Although it could be that the economic realities are speeding up family dissolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:00 PM
1

Completely disagree. I know some Marxists quite well and their views on what we call identity politics may shock you. They despise it as much as the alt-right types - albeit for different reasons. The importance of this and its pertinence to the Red Pill debate is the ways in which women do and could be predicted to respond to real economic insecurity in a time of Eat, Pray, Cats style feminism. The family unit is in societal disfavor precisely at the moment economic forces are driving it to ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:05 PM
13

Wait, are you dating Cardi B??
/r/askMRP29/03/19 07:38 PM
7

Occam's razor says this is the most likely explanation.
/r/askMRP29/03/19 07:37 PM
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I saw this story and had a similar reaction. But, we aren't here to complain. We're here to help men fix themselves. You are 100 % right and yet it doesn't really matter. Think harder. Take this beyond "whataboutism" and formulate a set of tenets around it. Add to the Red Pill theories by positing a set of tools around this.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/19 11:13 PM
1

So what's that say about Robin Givens?
/r/TheRedPill28/03/19 01:10 PM
1

Cut, not swole.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/03/19 12:07 PM
1

Women love this kind of thing. But here’s the key: they love it with FRIENDS. They DO NOT love it with men they are sexually attracted to. I meant from the woman's perspective. I just assumed more texting meant more attraction. But that's not the case?
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:05 PM
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Point 2 is fascinating. Where does this idea come from?
/r/seduction26/03/19 03:20 AM
1

Nice to see another Crossfitter on here. I've been going for about 15 months and love it. Every few months I tackle something that seemed utterly unreachable. I just got double unders. Before that was rope climbs. Starting handstand pushups now.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/03/19 01:23 AM
1

Three months? Dude, you had a beast inside you just waiting to be unleashed. Nice work.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/03/19 01:18 AM
2

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say you're boring in conversation because you are so guarded. And you're guarded because you enter the conversation with a covert agenda that you'd like to bang the girl you're talking to. Only that's wrong and creepy so you bury it under a mound of shame. Then the bartender brings her the vodka tonic and she's gone. Conversation over. If you haven't read No More Mr Nice Guy, I'd say start there. If you have read it I'd say read it again.
/r/askMRP25/03/19 03:26 AM
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Reading “No More Mr Nice Guy” and “When I say no I feel guilty” can be a great starting point if you find yourself this desperate. Ahem. Many of us are/were that desperate. Blue pill is tough on a brother.
/r/askMRP22/03/19 04:52 AM
6

It already is. You just have to train yourself to hear it.
/r/askTRP11/03/19 06:58 PM
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I thought the added phrase was "Right now, I feel like...". As in "Right now, I feel like, until death do us part."
/r/askTRP11/03/19 01:08 PM
3

Some of the happiest looking pictures of me with my wife were taken when I was the absolute most miserable in my marriage.
/r/askTRP09/03/19 01:34 PM
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It's a conundrum. If you are in an LTR and go the surveillance route, you are by definition ceding the frame of the relationship. If you don't go the surveillance route, something like this is always a distinct possibility. If I had to put money on it, he was already suspicious and that's why he started checking out the footage.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/19 03:48 PM
1

Ironically, if we're ever in a situation where we need to draft soldiers, our opinion about the roles of the sexes will change dramatically and this ruling will be deemed null and void. That said, it doesn't bother me. Logical consistency is in short enough supply these days that I'll agree with the ruling.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 06:07 PM
1

Man, you are not kidding. It does feel like playing with fire at times.
/r/askMRP25/02/19 04:02 PM
2

Stalking her is only weakening your frame. To clarify, I don't do this anymore. Actually, I haven't done it since discovering MRP. I get how this puts me in her frame and I don't want to be there.
/r/askMRP25/02/19 04:01 PM
4

Ah, that would explain it. I'm glad it wasn't paranoid delusions.
/r/askMRP25/02/19 03:58 PM
2

I wouldn't say that. The DL bounce is common when you're doing rounds for time. The 1 RM workouts are not common, but are done a lot differently. Look at it this way, if you were doing a workout of, say, 3 rounds of 36 pushups, 24 burpees, and 12 of 70 % of your 1 RM DL as fast as you can, you need to have your form dialed in if you plan on ever walking again. We warm up the movements for a solid half hour before something like that. But there are valid arguments against CF - you don't see gains…
/r/askMRP25/02/19 04:39 AM
1

Thanks. This is good advice. I would say I'm in the rash danger zone right now. Mostly I just want to get better at living my life and if that breaks up my marriage, then that's what happens.
/r/askMRP25/02/19 04:28 AM
2

Thanks. A few thoughts. 1. Still on the fence about this. At the risk of DEERing, the extra lifting I'm doing at CF is cycling through a few different programs and Wendler 5-3-1 is coming up. I want more bonafide lifting but get a lot out of CF too. The gym I go to is really good and the coaches aren't really into cutting corners. You hit on something here. I'm making myself out to be a little more OI than I actually am. It's still an act of will to avoid victim puking, DEERing, beta orbiting. A…
/r/askMRP25/02/19 01:18 AM
1

I have considered this. I just can't do it. My male value is not enough to overcome her boring nature. Believe it or not, I've left a lot out of this post. Some of the details about Chad would make you think differently about him. Shit I shouldn't know about him but do.
/r/askMRP24/02/19 09:05 PM
4

Solid advice. Thanks. Game is what you want to understand, and seduction is a byproduct of game. That’s a very important distinction. Bingo. See? I'm totally new to this. Will start The Rational Male. You actually made some decent progress for six months, but don’t get too far ahead of yourself. This is a marathon, not a race. Huh. Interesting. I think of myself as dawdling. This is good feedback. It may appear that I'm leaping ahead by thinking about learning game at this stage. But I know this…
/r/askMRP24/02/19 08:41 PM
1

Just tell people you're pregnant.
/r/askTRP23/02/19 06:06 PM
3

An acquaintance on social media posted this and is getting the social media equivalent of a Super Bowl parade over this. Unsuspecting Y-chromosome-bearing individuals will be tempted to believe that this is normal or expected behavior. In other words, your masculine instincts are baaad and being one of these guys is gooood.
/r/askTRP13/02/19 05:42 PM
2

I don't think it's a money issue as much as the dads waking up from the mindfuck one day. How do they respond? In the wrong hands this kind of realization could lead to domestic violence or worse. I don't mean that in a facetious way. But waking up from a mindfuck is a powerful experience.
/r/askTRP13/02/19 05:38 PM
2

I haven't been at this for very long. But I'm seeing that getting your emotions under control is a sort of master variable that allows all sorts of other improvements. Most importantly the ability to be rational, empathic, and focused on your mission. Conversely, when shit starts going south, you need emotional control as your bulwark. I'll occasionally find myself mired in old shitty circular thought patterns that I thought I had dealt with months ago and realize my emotional control has gotten…
/r/askMRP13/02/19 04:24 PM
1

Well, this is one area where I am equal to a woman. I can't compete in the NFL either. Although I'm not stupid enough to try either. Lol.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/19 08:54 PM
2

I could probably quote half of the movie under the proper circumstances.
/r/askMRP03/02/19 09:51 PM
1

Apparently someone else on this thread hasn't quite kicked their weed habit just yet, lol.
/r/askMRP03/02/19 07:39 PM
2

Awesome link. Thanks for sharing.
/r/askMRP01/02/19 04:43 AM
3

2 months is nothing. RP works over much longer timescales. The priority is to stop allowing your wife to dominate so much of your thinking. If you can't tell if she cheated, I certainly am not going to be able to tell. But the root problem is that your gaze is fixed on your wife and not yourself or the external world. Bring the focus on yourself and allow your decisions to be made rationally. Then, make your decision. You aren't there yet. (FWIW, me neither).
/r/askMRP29/01/19 10:25 PM
10

This may be true, but it serves no one to remain in this mindset. All throughout nature the battle of the sexes exists and serves to ensure that the best alleles are passed along. Feminism is simply a stage in the human battle of the sexes. It isn't anyone's "fault". It just is. Your responsibility is to learn how to respond to it. Good news is that you're in about the best subreddit for that. Nevertheless, it's hard work either way.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/19 07:40 PM
5

I fucking drove myself over the brink with OPSEC. You will never ask enough questions. You will always just assume you didnt find the answer. You will be chasing ghosts non-stop and drive yourself mad. The concept of Frame is emphasized here again and again. Living like this makes it impossible for the frame to be yours. It will always be hers.
/r/askMRP25/01/19 04:43 PM
1

This is a process and no one likes it. But, as was said in the last post about this, your marriage is over and somewhere deep down inside you know that already. Even if you are magically able to start pulling plates while remaining married after several decades out of the SMP, the higher-level abstraction of "your marriage" in the way you conceptualized it, no longer exists. The bit about your kids is just your current excuse. I suspect there will be more excuses before you're ready. Such is the…
/r/askMRP25/01/19 04:38 PM
1

All over my social media feed making dark jokes about wine and cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:52 PM
1

I'm actually finding RP gains to be slower and harder than gym gains. It's much more intellectual, requires more creativity, and offers a lot more opportunities for self-delusion.
/r/askMRP20/01/19 05:50 PM
5

No, you're not. That's about all that is certain right now. Nevertheless, remember, women take the shape of the container you provide. Work on your container and see what happens.
/r/askMRP20/01/19 02:12 AM
7

God, that "Hapoy wife, happy life" motto is everywhere and just a little more wrong every time I hear it. I wouldn't care except that I bought into that before RP.
/r/askMRP19/01/19 02:03 AM
6

Remains to be seen. But I was completely flabbergasted when I realized the relationship that I was in and how different it was from what I believed. AWALT.
/r/askMRP18/01/19 03:39 AM
7

I could have written this post two years ago. Now my posts are a lot different.
/r/askMRP18/01/19 02:26 AM
1

Is that what Blue Pillers want? Serious question. I think of them as being unaware or vaguely aware of the Alpha / Beta construct as it pertains to their life. And, if anything, the default belief is that being more of a supplicant is better.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/19 02:57 AM
4

Milo, Alex Jones, and Peterson are entirely predictable and Gillette knew they would alienate that crowd. Piers Morgan is a bit more of a surprise. I'll keep an eye out for more mainstream backlash. You also need new insta/Facebook friends. Tell me about it! Lol.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/19 08:34 PM
16

I don't agree with that. If you're interested in the bottom line, of course you tap into Nice Guys. They're everywhere. Literally the fabric of the matrix. And they don't say Beta Bux for nothing. Honestly, if you were trying to sell a product would you target the tiny minority who have escaped the matrix?
/r/TheRedPill15/01/19 06:35 PM
10

What's the backlash? I'm seeing it in the minuscule manosphere only. My social media feeds are stacked with women sharing the ad and beta orbiters white knighting over it. Gillette knows what they're doing. It's a commentary on the fabric of our society.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/19 06:29 PM
3

It taps into the 98% of men who are essentially Nice Guys. They think that by posting in support of this on social media, that one elusive babe will finally get the vag tingles for them after a these years. Gillette is counting on this to serve as an echo chamber and provide huge leverage to their ad buys. It isn't a statement about Gillette, the elites, or any other supposed aggressor toward masculinity. It is a simple statement about the prevalence of Blue Pill, Nice Guy tendencies in our cult…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/19 06:22 PM
1

Do not argue with your wife and if you find yourself in an argument, do not use logic. Sure, write down all the 15 obvious reasons it's better to own a house. But this isn't so you can convince your wife when she's having an attack of the feelz. It's for you to motivate you.
/r/askMRP15/01/19 01:11 PM
22

"Men don't talk. Men do." You brought it up for validation and she didn't give it to you.
/r/askMRP14/01/19 04:43 AM
1

She entered into a contract (which is what a marriage is) where both partners are supposed to support each other. Except that with no-fault divorce there's no requirement to fulfill your half of the marital contract. Unless you make more money - then you must fulfill the financial part of the contract. In theory you could get married, party for five years. Then when the inevitable divorce hits, you still would get half of everything.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/19 04:29 AM
2

In the #metoo world we inhabit, they are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:30 AM
1

Yeah, if he was older and more experienced, he'd be even more cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:52 AM
4

Marriage / LTR is a contract. This means both parties have a defined set of goals that they would like to attain through the relationship. As long as you can view it as purely transactional, you'll be fine. It's all the Disney movie love story bullcrap that ends up destroying relationships. Get involved, understand the risks, have a clear set of achievable goals, and when it inevitably fails, move on or accept the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:51 AM
1

I talk about this all the time in my OYS posts and get tired of repeating myself on it. Besides, the consensus around here and my internal conclusion is that all I can do is Dread and Red.
/r/askMRP30/12/18 05:16 PM
1

It is helpful and a good read. I'm in the "wife is having an emotional and possibly physical affair" portion of the story. But, as you know as well as anyone here, you can't just cut out that tumor and call it good. There needs to be a fundamental remaking of yourself and then a reassessment. It happened / is happening because I'm a weak beta autistic fuck. But every day the rope gets a little less slack in it.
/r/askMRP30/12/18 04:06 PM
3

I find this a little confusing. In Saving a Low Sex Marriage (basically the Dread handbook as I understand it) there is a lot of talk about operant conditioning and withholding time and attention with the express intent of causing a change in behavior. I agree that it smacks of a grand covert contract and BPP sort of lost me on that part. I will think about this some more. For a lot of us newbies, getting the spotlight off of your wife and back on yourself is harder than it sounds.
/r/askMRP28/12/18 05:54 PM
2

Nice Guys punish and use punishment to manipulate. Can you elaborate on this?
/r/askMRP28/12/18 04:51 PM
2

Look, if you are hanging out on this sub and calling yourself redpilled, probably what that means is you are on the path or a work in progress. Unplugging is a long process and there is a lot of up-is-downism when you're first starting. So, you aren't sure what to believe and probably lean a little hard on the dismissive side. I think as you progress, your perspective changes a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:13 PM
1

Holidays. Fuck 'em.
/r/askMRP27/12/18 05:34 AM
2

I think we all recognize this on some instinctual level. What makes TRP unique are posts like this that are willing to bluntly point this out along with resources on how beta turds can solidify. Lift. Sidebar. Fail. Try again. No shortcuts.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/18 11:10 PM
3

It's easy in this situation to look at the jam OP is in and conclude that the deck is stacked against men. But this isn't true. The deck is stacked against cuckolded beta men. Therefore, TRP exists as a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 10:38 PM
16

What is the motivation behind the creation of a BP philosophy that emasculates men and puts the marital contract on a shaky foundation? It is objectively worse for kids and for women. Is it done out of spite or hatred or victimology? I don't believe so. I think it is done as a filter against socially inept men who allow media to dictate their reality. This allows sexual selection to occur on the basis of communication and social intelligence rather than pure physical attributes. Being able to un…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/18 07:51 PM
21

This is a central theme in No More Mr Nice Guy. The trap isn't society per se, but rather your acceptance of the model of modern manhood. The larger game is that this mindfuck is a sort of grand shit test. The men who can see through it are, by definition, fitter. It's the next stage in the evolution of human sexuality.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/18 03:01 PM
2

Sounds like we're at a similar stage. I went to Seven Habits of Highly Effective People at this stage and am just finishing it. Although it is a BP book, the steps Covey lays out to writing a personal mission statement look a lot like a MAP. Really, the PMS is you defining your frame and how to get there. I also found that this book helped me bring my focus back to myself and stop looking for validation from those around me.
/r/askMRP20/12/18 02:17 PM
3

TWOTSM always messes me up. There's a reason it's considered grad level reading. If OP is only six months in, he might not be ready for it.
/r/askMRP20/12/18 12:58 PM
1

Go backwards. You're missing something. MRP is a full makeover. You're bound to miss something and fall off course along the way. This might be a good time for a short trip or a new hobby. What books have you read? What is your dread level?
/r/askMRP20/12/18 12:56 PM
5

I'd say the first piece of wisdom I picked up from Red Pill is that you are essentially alone. The connection to your wife is contractual and sexual, not emotional and spiritual. To the extent you develop the latter bonds, they are with other men, but they aren't absolutely essential. I know this sounds dark, but it strikes me as being correct. So. What's the worry? You don't need to have a perfectly aligned philosophy to have a successful marriage. She's a strange and delightful creature to hav…
/r/askMRP19/12/18 04:51 AM
3

I posted on dead bedrooms about a year ago. Someone read my post and PM'd me a suggestion to read MMSLP. I looked at it on Amazon and then bought Five Love Languages instead. A shitty six months followed and then I found TRP completely by accident. By then I was ready for it.
/r/askMRP18/12/18 05:00 PM
1

This is true, but it sounds like he's still in the "pussy on a pedestal" phase where he sees her motives as being logical and pure. I think objectively looking at the situation and understanding that you're being fed a shit sandwich brings some anger with it. At least that's how it worked for me. The red pill path for me has been about moving my attention back to myself and learning to OYS. But I wouldn't have found (or believed) TRP if I wasn't able to see that my life SHOULD be different. If h…
/r/askMRP18/12/18 04:55 PM
2

Where is he with this? Is he mad at her or is he still blaming himself?
/r/askMRP18/12/18 02:28 AM
12

The one I like is "Women always win arguments because only fools argue with them".
/r/TheRedPill15/12/18 07:30 PM
2

Something else about the scenario is bugging you. Drinks with co-workers of any sex is really not a big deal. Especially a group of them. But you have some unstated reason for thinking this isn't okay. You can tell us if you want, but it doesn't really change the situation. So, what do you do? I'm somewhat at a loss too. But this is where some self awareness helps. You are in one of four states that only you can judge. 1) Not strong enough to set a boundary. So it's literally impossible for you …
/r/askMRP13/12/18 04:28 AM
4

As Bluepillprofessor says "Women always win arguments because only fools argue with them".
/r/askMRP07/12/18 02:22 AM
1

I don't understand the "texting is for logistics" mindset. Isn't texting a way to game and seduce? I suck at texting and mostly use it for logistics, but it seems that some people use it for a lot more than that - to great effect.
/r/askMRP05/12/18 06:50 PM
1

This was me 12 months ago. I didn't want to believe what should have been obvious. There's a line in Book of Pook about the man-child always seeking the comfort of the womb. That's where I was. I found it in alcohol, weed, porn, video games, etc. The creepiest, most emasculated Nice Guy you could meet. These days my ship moves slowly, but it moves.
/r/askMRP28/11/18 12:13 AM
1

Of course not. It's a matter of discipline and frame. Some of what was pissing me off last year continues. But the "kill the puppy " shit tests absolutely have stopped. She knows my attitude about it is very different this year.
/r/askMRP10/11/18 09:08 PM
1

I am pissed off and trying to get even, yes. That's my shit in full view.
/r/askMRP09/11/18 04:43 AM
9

I'm honestly not judging you. But I see myself so much more like those shlubs working the broiler machine. They thought having a party for everyone would be nice and they can show off some great broiling skills, etc. The wives disappear for no more than 30 minutes tops and engaged in marriage-ending activities. It boggles the mind. How could you NOT mate-guard knowing this shit is possible? I get that RP is probably the best defense. But to someone who is wondering about an unfaithful wife, this…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 10:34 PM
4

Both while their men were working the boiler. I'm pretty new around here. But this is the stuff of nightmares.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 09:57 PM
1

Okay, let's back up for a second. The original post was about TRP and how it's a mixture of common sense and bitter guys who take it too far. But it could be that partially what you are reacting to is your own experience which does seem to fit the narrative writ large of the philandering husband, diligent capable wife, and kids left to sort out the mess for themselves. This is certainly how I saw the world. I really thought that being a good husband would insulate me from 21st century marital wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 08:15 PM
9

This place and the goddamn eureka moments. And, yes.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 07:53 PM
1

Again, I don't want to make assumptions about this particular circumstance, but in cases like this there could be more to the story. Wives have ways of turning the tables on their husbands and coming out looking like the victim. As you say, this should probably be common sense. But some of us either don't have common sense, have stopped trusting it, or don't know how to practically apply common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:50 PM
8

Uh, what? I mean we don't want to be the beta husband married Shelly. Shelly in the story wasn't always banging random MRP protagonists. We're looking for ways to keep that from happening.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 07:19 PM
1

I don't know your situation, but I would submit to you the possibility that you aren't getting the whole story. This certainly happened as I began having my own marital problems and talked to my sister about her divorce. It seemed to be a clear case of a cheating husband who got caught. The more I talked with her and asked pointed questions, the more the story dissolved. I couldn't tell you exactly what happened, but just taking her at her word was clearly a mistake. We tend to trust the lived o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:16 PM
15

Be all of this as it may, the vast majority of guys on this site are in marriages that leave a lot to be desired, but perhaps aren't in a Shelly situation. What we're seeking (and implementing, however clumsily) is a way to keep our wives from becoming Shelly and instead see us as the prize.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 07:10 PM
2

Which any experienced TRPer will tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:19 PM
1

Yes, AWALT. So what. That was in the past. Are you living there or in the present? The "kill the puppy" shit test is the only kind you should obey, right? True it was in the past, but it's significant. In essence she pulled a gun. My response is "bygones are bygones"?
/r/askMRP07/11/18 06:42 AM
8

You are the prize.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/18 05:38 PM
9

Dude, forgive me. But. Man the fuck up. Your kids owe you zero emotional support. You need to support them. Want something nice for your birthday? Hit on the girl at Starbucks and take her to see Beck. The responsibility flows from the parent to the child, not vice versa. Does your boss at work get all wounded when people forget his or her birthday? This is a tough world and you're in a tough spot. BUT - you can take it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/18 05:22 PM
1

Kids shit test for many of the same reasons as women and the response should be similar. They want to know that someone is in charge. In my experience, you get better results when they do the yelling and not you.
/r/askMRP06/11/18 01:16 PM
7

Charm and beauty is the natural "soft" power of women. Ignore it. And understand that your wife will probably find guys interested in her before the ink is dry. But it doesn't change what you have to do - improve yourself, get your act together, and build the next chapter of your life.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/18 11:39 PM
1

For awhile....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 11:31 PM
3

I would caution you to seriously realize most women at her age, and I am serious, think about men leaving for younger fuck buddies. Thinking about this statement some more. Assuming there are no typos, you are saying that Dread may be easier than I'm making it out to be? That is, that she already is predisposed to thinking I may trade her in? If I'm interpreting that correctly, it's interesting to think about. I may be playing a stronger hand than I give myself credit for.
/r/askMRP05/11/18 12:25 AM
2

Gotta remember that one....
/r/askMRP04/11/18 03:16 PM
2

Mostly she isn't bad to me per se. The problem is that she is totally in another guy's frame. I've alluded to this in my OYS posts. This was the crux of the problems between us last year. And my weak-ass BP self made matters 10 times worse. So I'm starting behind and maybe pushing it a bit too much. These two work together and her job is changing in the next few days. If the bullshit between them continues, I'm pretty sure she'll be nexted. This is the classic MAP situation where tolerating the …
/r/askMRP04/11/18 03:14 PM
2

It is easy to overthink this stuff. I've explained in a few of my OYS posts about the tense situation we're in at the moment. There isn't open disrespect from her, but things need to change between us or we take the next step.
/r/askMRP04/11/18 12:53 PM
1

If the other wives are cunts, say it, but at least have frame doing it that sends a message to her that you won't tolerate it. This is what I was going for. I know I blew it on the shit test, but part of the reason I wanted to talk about it at all was to demonstrate that I have a practical perspective on the marital contract. The shit test was really a frame test - that's the answer I was looking for.
/r/askMRP04/11/18 12:51 PM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/redpillbooks/comments/3rk5zk/the_red_pill_mega_book_collection_v20/ SGM is included in this mega pack.
/r/askMRP03/11/18 08:45 PM
2

She doesn't want YOU to think she's sexy. Stop wasting time on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:40 AM
3

He was not a native English speaker so it would have been easy.
/r/askMRP01/11/18 07:54 PM
15

Back in my 20s I lived in a group house and one of my housemates used to subject her boyfriend to regular updates on their relationship which I always called "clipboard dinners". She would make him a nice dinner, sit down with him and start into her list of points where he was failing. Haha. Even in my BP days I wouldn't have sat through something like this.
/r/askMRP01/11/18 12:26 AM
10

I call bullshit.
/r/askMRP31/10/18 03:42 PM
6

I had an LTR in college that started while she was a plate. This was 25 years ago and I didn't know that's what she was, but it fits the term to a tee. Of course, I dropped all my other plates for her and that's when things started going downhill. I think she wanted to see me as a guy that had plates and was put together well enough to manage them. I wanted to see myself as a monogamous BP nice guy. Of course, once she figured this out, I was dead man walking. I didn't know any of the terms nor …
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/18 02:29 PM
8

But, deep down, you understood this. That's what I find fascinating.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/18 04:38 AM
11

Rule 16 - never be afraid to lose her.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/18 04:34 AM
1

TRP applied to long-term relationships focuses to a large degree on male self-improvement. The difference between this and all the BP pop psychology is that it puts SMV front and center and then everything flows logically from there. BP would tell you to talk it over with your SO and negotiate desire, as it were. RP says that's nonsense and that humans respond to actions and sexuality, not words and negotiated desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 08:36 PM
1

No doubt. I just love this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 12:25 PM
1

I wouldn't say that I'm more conservative, but I'm more willing to listen and think for myself. Sometimes this puts me crossways with my liberal friends and my former ideologies. But that's probably how it should be.
/r/askTRP29/10/18 12:24 PM
1

I'm using it mostly tongue-in-cheek in this case. Marriage 2.0 refers to the current incarnation of the institution where women derive financial benefits of marriage without needing to adhere to the corresponding responsibilities. In your case, you don't provide the financial benefits - at least not solely or mostly - so you don't have nearly the risk in a divorce. In other words you've surpassed Marriage 2.0. That's why I was calling it Marriage 3.0. In my first reading, I missed the part where…
/r/askMRP29/10/18 12:39 AM
1

Read the Book of Pook.
/r/askTRP28/10/18 06:58 PM
39

You have reached the rare Marriage 3.0. Kill the puppy, take the alimony, and lead a better life.
/r/askMRP28/10/18 01:34 PM
13

The best running back of all time at my high school wore pink shoes with friendship beads weaved into the laces in all of the games. He was daring anyone to comment on those shoes. And whether they commented or not they would end the next few moments of their life with cleat marks on their chest as he barreled them over. What a bad ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 03:47 AM
1

I would add 10. RP men watched their wives of double digit numbers of years follow these patterns to a tee and, despite their astonishment, saw the fundamental correctness of many of these principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 04:51 PM
3

I live in a very BP area that is liberal in a way that is very identity politics conscious. What I see a lot of is average or below average women with men who appear to have much higher SMV. This isn't a function of aging or young kid years per se. It strikes me as BP women pedestalizing gone into overdrive. Our neighbors were a classic case of this until one day the guy wised up and took off. But this seems to be a very different dynamic from the "what does she see in him?" dynamic that many of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 04:45 PM
1

What Dread level are you? The ones that stick around on MRP say 3 or 4 is when sexual enthusiasm and frequency picked up. BPP says 5 is the target.
/r/askMRP27/10/18 12:38 PM
1

What's that saying? Youth is wasted on the young.
/r/askTRP26/10/18 03:32 AM
5

What's the daily reset?
/r/askMRP26/10/18 03:26 AM
9

You're in the wrong sub for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 09:32 PM
2

Not gay. But that movie sucks. And I firmly believe it put a 25 year curse on the Irish.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/10/18 04:00 AM
2

You're in the right place. I would say skip ahead and read Mindful Attraction Plan. Get yourself moving and force the resolution point with her. She can be Dreaded into stopping her partying. Or you can move on.
/r/askMRP24/10/18 08:24 PM
2

What is thinking about controlling emotion as it relates to elation or uncontrollable laughter? Same?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/10/18 08:18 PM
5

You mean actual faggot love scenes? I'm not one to judge, but why are you watching those anyhow?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/10/18 08:17 PM
3

That's closer to the answer I was expecting. I'll write a post on this soon so we're not speaking in such hypotheticals. I appreciate the response.
/r/askMRP24/10/18 01:54 PM
2

It is specific. Mate guarding and jealousy are DLVs, but how close do you let your wife get to another man before confronting her about boundaries? And is direct confrontation the best approach?
/r/askMRP24/10/18 12:48 PM
4

How do you enforce boundaries? Is it a direct "don't do that"? Most of the advice on here is about ignoring this kind of thing.
/r/askMRP24/10/18 12:37 PM
3

Kudos to you. Another opiate of the masses. Focus on you and amazing things can happen.
/r/askMRP24/10/18 12:28 PM
2

If you are really reading and internalizing MAP, you know that the phases last a while. You may be looking at a year or more of work to turn things around. Assuming that's what you want.
/r/askMRP23/10/18 06:53 PM
1

I view it as male self-improvement and an honest assessment of intersexual dynamics. It isn't about throwing women in the cellar but respecting the differences between the sexes and behaving accordingly. RP captures a pretty wide-ranging set of approaches. I come from the Dieda school of fulfillment rather than the MGTOW school of anti-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:18 PM
7

And then there are those who found RP after their BP ways cost or nearly cost them their marriage/LTR. RP works as a pickup strategy but where it really becomes important is in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:51 PM
1

Fly fisherman or aquatic entomologist?
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/18 10:13 PM
1

What confuses me about this is that the option is usually fleeting. Once a girl figures out that you aren't going to pull the trigger, you quickly become shunted into beta orbiter status.
/r/askMRP22/10/18 01:12 PM
2

First and foremost, you aren't his friend. Remember that. You need to set boundaries and teach him how to act. As tempting as it may be, don't yell. Model composure in all aspects of your life. He may think you are superman and all you get from it is shit tests and temper tantrums. You can't expect validation to come from him. That's a burden fathers carry. Good luck.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/10/18 01:32 PM
7

For me, TRP started in 2018.
/r/askTRP19/10/18 04:15 PM
1

What most guys think of as comfort, my wife finds repulsive. Hugs, snuggles....she doesn't really want that very often. Interesting. I'm finding that as I seem to be improving - evidenced by greatly increased sexual frequency with my wife and IOIs from women around me - our huggy/snuggly times have actually decreased. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about this, but my wife does seem to dislike these too unless something is "really wrong". Last year during my Blue Pill basement…
/r/askMRP18/10/18 08:10 PM
6

Faggot. I mean that in the best way possible.
/r/askMRP17/10/18 05:36 PM
15

Don't talk about it and it isn't an issue. Because honestly it isn't an issue. This goes for n counts (within reason) and sex with prostitutes (also within reason).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:28 PM
1

Whoa, this is a thing? I took last week off and I feel like my dread game has dropped to zero. Had no idea this happens to people.
/r/askMRP16/10/18 09:14 PM
1

No, one of the top 20% of men instigates unrest among the bottom 60%. The one alpha and all those unwanteds then cause havoc. To access the 80% of women. The ensuing battle reduces numbers, rearranges hierarchies, and the cycle starts over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:15 AM
28

This is a common story over at MRP. Check it out if you haven't already.
/r/askTRP15/10/18 12:25 PM
1

You'll have your ups and downs like the rest of us. Remembering that you can't stop "dating" your wife even after you're married is your best bet. As far as attraction, mine has always kept up with my age. The universe of women you find attractive grows as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:22 PM
1

Great response. I appreciate the feedback. Honestly, I'm often astonished at the interest shown on this thread to the married lives of anonymous strangers.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/10/18 06:46 PM
1

Idiotic. So then what do I say in that situation? Is this just STFU? Remember she said "I can't be who you want me to be", not something like "Unload the dishwasher". Which brings me to a larger question. Can I expect shit tests to be about fundamental issues in our relationship, such as the suspected Chad? If I view it that way it's a lot easier to understand how to respond. But is that correct? Thanks for the feedback.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/10/18 11:44 AM
1

I became insecure one day about 18 months ago when I looked on her phone and saw the kinds of conversations those two were having. Before that I was a drunk captain, but not insecure. Now I'm sober and gaining, but still insecure. She and I fought about this a lot last year. This year is miles better, but I'm obviously not there yet.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 08:49 PM
8

Move in. Be there as in, be up at 3am with the baby. It makes a difference.
/r/askTRP11/10/18 06:11 PM
1

I have a few work sweeties as well, but this takes on a slightly different texture. Texting all day, all weekend, his kids always over at our house. It's too much even if he isn't actively or prospectively fucking her. And yhe most galling part is that he has pretty good game. So fucked up. If you guys think I'm a weak fag now, you shoild have seen me a year ago. RP is actually working for me.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 05:52 PM
1

Yeah, yeah. I meant I would have them half time which boils down to school and then every other weekend. Where I get hung up is if I have to give her half of my salary and then child support on top of that. That would take me from condo territory into shared housing territory. Ugh.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 03:15 PM
1

No, she makes peanuts. I'd be poor for a few years. I'm not sure what the child support laws are in my state and I want to make sure not to leave any room to lose custody of the children. I'm figuring a 50/50 split for 5 years would be the most likely outcome. Sell the house, split the equity, each of us buys a condo, I get the kids every other weekend. It's like the 21st century Norman Rockwell scenario in the US.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 01:27 PM
1

What happened with your situation? Cheating? Divorce? How did you find out?
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 02:42 AM
2

Fuck that. If I talked to a married woman as much as he talks to mine, I'd expect her husband to be uncomfortable. This issue is what drove me to unplug in the first place. Granted, it has turned out to be a good thing for me, but I'm not laying doen the gauntlet on this one. But everything else is good advice.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/10/18 01:40 AM
1

Ladies, the guys just go downhill. Same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:01 AM
2

All of those guys have excellent physiques. The extra mass you see comes from their age, not eating eight slices of pizza at a time. The second one is probably what most guys at the gym are aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:07 PM
1

Almost. Thank God we can control our evolutionary urges, though. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:08 PM
1

I like hips.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:21 PM
7

I started Crossfit about a year ago and my body is responding very well to it. Any guesses how my wife responds? 100% predictable. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:20 PM
1

Ha! Fair enough! Won't hold my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:12 AM
3

So, rainbow, then?
/r/askMRP10/10/18 01:35 AM
1

What's that saying? Behind every great man is a great woman: the one he didn't get. I don't see why the genders couldn't be reversed for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 12:40 AM
0

What color pill would that be?
/r/askMRP10/10/18 12:37 AM
1

But having a mission is value in itself. Believing in yourself and your path will communicate value. What some of the other posters here are alluding to is that all of this should be about you anyhow. Your SO is incidental. Many of the supposed high-value types here face a complementary problem of making money but lacking in purpose.
/r/askMRP09/10/18 10:30 PM
8

It's a fugitive from DeadBedrooms! Quarantine! Quarantine!
/r/askMRP09/10/18 09:01 PM
4

Lift, sidebar, Dread, repeat.
/r/askMRP09/10/18 08:58 PM
1

I'm working off of advice I've seen elsewhere on MRP that you need to wait six months after unplugging to get a clear assessment. That said, you are right that November will be a pivotal month.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/10/18 05:00 PM
2

Leave a copy of Married Man Sex Life Primer somewhere that your SO can find it. Don't be obvious though. Make him think it was his idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:44 PM
2

OWN YOUR SHIT 3 44, 3 kids, married 15 years. Started unplugging 3 months ago. Physical 5’8” 165, 15 pct BF, DL 325, BS 280, BP 175 Crossfit 4 x/week. I push myself very hard and sometimes stay after class for additional strength and technique work. Supplementing with protein, creatine, omega 3, & vitamin D. Alcohol consumption is way down. Diet is under control. Muscle development is evident. I don’t test my max lifts very often, but I’m making progress in the crossfit workouts which usually in…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/10/18 03:45 PM
2

Not now. Just wait.
/r/askMRP08/10/18 10:03 PM
2

That isn't how you sound in the post. But, more generally, I think staying in a relationship like this is risky. She's only going to put up with being unloved for so long. One day she'll start working out, get the ass you've been wanting and then you'll find out it was for Chad. Woops. Not that this can't work, but you have to be realistic and do a shit ton of work.
/r/askMRP08/10/18 09:46 PM
1

Imagine writing this same post at 40, or 50, or 60. Would it be easier then? After 15, 25, 35 years of marriage, her inevitable infidelity, and probably a few more kids?
/r/askMRP08/10/18 09:18 PM
11

She's obviously fucking him.
/r/askMRP08/10/18 04:38 PM
10

You know, in my case, this wasn't so. There have been lots of moments during my unplugging where I finally understood things my mom tried to tell me a long time ago. But I was fighting an uphill battle. I have four sisters and always got (and believed) their side of the story. Plus I allowed myself to buy into certain bullshit narratives that reinforced blue pill behaviors. But if I think back to advice my mom gave me, in many cases it had a sort of "be aware of differences between men and women…
/r/askTRP07/10/18 02:47 PM
1

That may be so, but nevertheless, it doesn't change anything. You know this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:04 AM
1

+/u/User_Simulator IRunYourRiver
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 11:54 PM
2

He is.
/r/askMRP06/10/18 08:23 PM
1

You increase your success rate by increasing your sexual market value. The technique, unless you're really, truly terrible, is not that important. But even if she isn't receptive yet, keep initiating. It does two things: 1) reminds her that you view yourself as a sexual being; 2) if and when she denies you, it's probably the best way to begin changing relationship power dynamics. Don't get hurt or sad, just roll over and go to sleep. If it's before work, make a joke about not being able to use y…
/r/askMRP06/10/18 08:22 PM
2

Don't get mad. See it for what it is. It is a conversation among women being listened to by men who don't understand this. Obviously bona fide secual assault is wrong. Men who use their power to put women in sexualized predicaments are idiots who get what they deserve. For the bystander, it's something to be marveled at like a hurricane or severe thunderstorm. Beyond that the only lesson to be learned is to not get involved romantically in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:55 PM
3

"The stay plan is the same as the go plan". Work on you. Reassess in six months.
/r/askMRP06/10/18 01:29 PM
9

I figured out a few things before actually swallowing the pill and one of them was that I am fundamentally alone. My wife and I are in a relationship, but we are not "one body" and certainly not "one spirit". But, I think you'll soon discover that you do a better job supporting yourself. And that seeking inner peace from your wife has been a fool's errand. The community here helps a lot. But, in the end, its just you.
/r/askMRP05/10/18 07:49 PM
3

If it feels good, do it.
/r/askMRP05/10/18 07:41 PM
1

A billion times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:14 AM
3

Who first said "poopy head"? Was it screechhater? You don't know how many times that has helped me. So true.
/r/askMRP05/10/18 02:29 AM
6

This is the anger phase. MRP is an emotional rollercoaster. But ultimately just remember that your wife is following her biological imperative in a manner exactly analogous to you. Follow Dread. Read the books. Keep a journal. Recognize, even if you fail, the fitness tests. You'll get there. Be patient.
/r/askMRP05/10/18 01:01 AM
7

This part is indeniable. I'm agnostic to the rest of it, but he could not have done more to shoot himself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:47 PM
3

The language of oppression is directed toward other women and men who are already predisposed to listen. It is a mechanism for reinforcement rather than persuasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:07 PM
6

Ford and Kavanaugh are both willing tools fighting a proxy war between 70 year olds who were on opposite sides of the Nam anti-war movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:55 AM
3

I keep a journal. Keep it short and to the point. You can flesh it out a bit with the OYS posts, but mostly you want some mileposts. These come in handy when you have your inevitable setbacks. It's nice to be able to look back and realize that even after a nasty setback, you're still so much further ahead. And, just in case no one else has said it yet - lift, sidebar, Dread.
/r/askMRP03/10/18 09:57 PM
1

Government service has a way of grinding people down. I'm a GS and it gets difficult to go to work on many days. And I'm even one of the supposed lucky ones in research. I have a dark joke when I show someone my desk at work where I say "and here's where I slowly fade to grayscale. It hurt at first." If you're serious about leaving, read Way of the Superior Man. If you aren't serious about leaving, at least for God's sake find a passion outside of work. And seven years isn't all that long.
/r/askMRP03/10/18 03:59 AM
5

I was picturing more of a techno brass ensemble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:01 PM
1

What meditation method do you use? I did mindfulness for awhile last year. I guess it helped, but I was a total wreck so it's hard to judge.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 03:43 AM
4

At times the advice on here is so Yoda-like as to be counterproductive. Sure, my looks, money, love life, zip code, BF%, body odor, and skin condition are irrelevant to my masculine mission. But, at the same time, all of us are here to improve ourselves. The truly fulfilled and confident man who lives in his mom's basement, smells like last week's lunch, and watches porn all day is not what any of us are striving for. There's a given assumption that following RP and going through the pain of rea…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/10/18 05:02 PM
1

Kids are wonderful as long as you remember that they are kids.
/r/askMRP01/10/18 03:11 PM
1

I would say absolutely not. You need a really solid foundation for it. You may forget what it was like to be a newbie. We're barely cognizant and Deida demands transcendence.
/r/askMRP01/10/18 03:05 PM
1

I started reading WOTSM this weekend and quickly realized I wasn't ready for it. I would read a few pages at a time and then put it down and just contemplate. If you're serious about it, it demands a tremendous amount from the reader.
/r/askMRP01/10/18 03:02 PM
5

Seconded. 3 mos as well.
/r/askMRP29/09/18 03:49 PM
1

There would be a lot fewer carpets to clean up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:47 PM
3

God, you guys are dark.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/09/18 06:37 PM
1

We need a n00b support group. I find myself in this whirlwind of emotions most of the time and yet it's undeniable that my sexual frequency with my wife has skyrocketed and IOIs keep coming from other women in my life. One other thing about your situation - you say you are batting .667 with initiation? That strikes me as damn good. As odd as it sounds, initiation isn't just about getting sex. It's about communicating to your wife that you are a sexual being and she can help you with that. And if…
/r/askMRP26/09/18 11:33 PM
1

You are "actively gaming" your wife 14/15 days? First, that's a remarkable accomplishment. Second, why isn't it more effective? What's your game like? A little naughty? Sexually insinuating? It doesn't seem to be effective, whatever the case. I've really just barely begun learning how to game my wife and she has responded incredibly well to it. At DL 2 you're new at this too. Maybe something is off there.
/r/askMRP26/09/18 06:37 PM
3

Two thoughts 1) this is an anxiety response. It's a classic symptom. I had it last year. 2) Read NMMNG for some motivation. It'll stop when you decide it isn't what you want. You are using it to escape your problems. It could be video games, drugs, food, alcohol just as easily. The answer is to decide you don't want to escape anymore.
/r/askMRP24/09/18 10:58 PM
1

I got it and am about halfway through. I'm actually getting a fair bit out of it. It's like all the RP advice. It's stuff that should be obvious but somehow having a plan and a set of instructions makes all the difference.
/r/askMRP24/09/18 10:49 PM
3

Okay, I don't think it's "mocking" per se, but it might be like when I tell my kids they're good at a musical instrument or something. There's this understanding that I'm impressed with their progress, but they're still the kid. I wouldn't tell LeBron James that he's a good basketball player. Of course he is. At any rate, maintaining AM or at least STFU seems to be the way to go. The ship is moving even if the 1000 ft rope isn't taut.
/r/askMRP22/09/18 11:22 PM
3

There's so much up-is-downism when you're first starting this stuff that you begin to question even simple things like compliments. If nothing else it'll make good fodder for the next anti-RP article in Vox or wherever.
/r/askMRP22/09/18 11:14 PM
3

Mocking me? Hmm. I have to think about that. There are some other associated recent changes that make me think this isn't so, but you may be right.
/r/askMRP22/09/18 10:34 PM
3

Right. This is what it seems like to me. It's a sort of dominance test wrapped in a compliment. She may want something back from me, but my sense is that the worst thing I could do is accept the compliment on its face. Usually I'm STFU, but there's got to be another way to play it off. I really thought this thread was going to be mostly made up of people saying I should slap her on the ass and say something cool and slightly sexual. By my Dread level alone you can probably tell I'm not there.
/r/askMRP22/09/18 10:30 PM
6

It's that simple? I'm hardly starting with this.
/r/askMRP22/09/18 07:01 PM
10

Measured at 32 degrees F in a 10 mph breeze after drinkimg black coffee and listening to your aunt talk about her vacation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:37 PM
1

Cheaper than rhinoceros horn, I guess.
/r/askMRP21/09/18 03:30 PM
1

Ha, nice rickroll. Didn't know that was still a thing.
/r/askMRP21/09/18 03:29 PM
1

Thanks, I went ahead and downloaded the whole thing. It's a great resource.
/r/askMRP21/09/18 03:29 PM
1

Ah, but you have the red pill. So the playing field is level once again. Evolution is selecting for a broader set of characteristics than it was in the past. Physical fitness is important, but so are a set of behaviors and communication that indicate a level of intellectualism and flexibility that is greater than in the past. This way, fewer people starve (welfare) and evolution can still meet its relentless demands.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/18 04:28 AM
2

Chin up precedes ass up.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/09/18 09:22 PM
2

It's a little confusing. MMSLP relies very heavily on the alpha / beta split but is sure to recognize that beta isn't bad. It just has to be balanced. I like your trifecta analogy. Although in my social dealings it is helpful for me to think about alpha characteristics. Mostly because mine are not prominent and/or have been eroded.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/09/18 08:43 PM
2

Reading these comments I'm left with this overwhelming sense that we all want the same things, our wives and us (and probably other women too). It's just that the hoops we have to jump through are different and our ways of displaying or burying our desires are different from each other and waay different from what we've been told.
/r/askMRP19/09/18 07:02 PM
2

Not that anyone asked, but a quick update. The shit testing has continued. She came home really late from a volunteer project. I calmly set a boundary with her and she seemed to respond. Lots of sorrys and I love yous. She initiated in bed afterward but then decided that our oldest son, who has been having trouble sleeping, was still awake. I just fell asleep sans drama. The next morning she was very expressive and loving toward me (but still no sex, ha). I think these are tests. If so, I seem t…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/09/18 05:13 PM
2

Thinking about this some more. It really strikes me as a Nice Guy covert contract. Allowing your wife to push you any way she wants because if you accept it then she'll feel loved. The red pill is practically founded on the notion that you have boundaries and you are willing to enforce them. Okay, sure, fix her feelz and all that. But when there is behavior that crosses a boundary, it has to be communicated as such. Otherwise you're stuck in a blue pill haze of "smile and it will be okay". Red p…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/09/18 04:24 AM
2

That passage if fucking money. What is it from? EDIT - just decoded the acronym.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 10:06 PM
3

Yeah, I thought that was good too. It's uncharacteristic of me which is why she squealed and why I wrote about it. It's funny, but I think she's shit testing me since that comment. I'm batting maybe 400 with her shit tests, but she's giving them and I'm recognizing them. I'm interpreting this as her maybe just beginning to sense that I'm changing a little - the shit tests are essentially her saying "OK, tough guy, how much different are you actually?"
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 09:34 PM
1

That's a solid post and thread. I'm a good husband, a decent (improving) father and hardly a boyfriend at all.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 09:10 PM
2

What's the trifecta?
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 08:32 PM
3

OWN YOUR SHIT #2 09/16/2018 44, 3 kids, married 15 years. Started unplugging 2 months ago. Think of me as a weak, butthurt non-captain and you’ll get a decent image. Physical 5’8” 165, 15 pct BF, DL 325, BS 280, BP 175 Crossfit 3-4 x/week. I push myself to near puking most of the time and sometimes stay after class for additional strength and technique work. Supplementing with protein, creatine, omega 3, & vitamin D. Alcohol consumption is way down. I watch my diet a lot more than before. My bod…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 06:27 PM
9

Very new here and totally fucking at the bottom of the barrel. Not very often, but once in a while, I think - "Holy shit, I could do this too". This post gives me one of those moments.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/09/18 04:31 AM
1

I get it as it pertains to his marriage. My question is more about legal ramifications.
/r/askMRP16/09/18 04:16 PM
4

Why is he fucked if he hands those papers without real cause? You mean from the perspective of being married or legally?
/r/askMRP16/09/18 01:30 PM
1

Make everything 1984 and you do just fine. Good advice. I'm guessing you never uttered the phrase "hypergamic imperative".
/r/askMRP13/09/18 12:43 AM
2

First Rule of Fight Club prevents this.
/r/askMRP12/09/18 10:32 PM
2

Exactly. It's a little tripwire. If you fall, the zombies eat your testicles.
/r/askMRP12/09/18 09:47 PM
2

How did you make it through a modern degree in counseling with RP knowledge? What were the best fights you had with your instructors?
/r/askMRP12/09/18 09:46 PM
1

Yeah, the crusader thing gets old, I agree. But when you exist in a landmine of failed relationships, it's easy for the turbulence created by those situations to creep into yours. I guess the question is what is the acceptable balance between turbulence and stability when it comes to fundamental incentives about how to prioritize your family's future versus your own sexual market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:51 PM
2

Good point. But aren't these societies extreme examples of patriarchy and female repression? Total control over feminine sexuality is practically their calling card. Obviously TRP isn't advocating for anything like that system, but it moves us closer in that direction than what we currently have. I have to think about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:16 PM
2

Create a huge class of sexless betas and all it takes is one power-hungry alpha sociopath to light that powderkeg.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:29 PM
3

That works fine until the garbage fire spreads to your house and sets it aflame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:00 PM
13

I'm going to completely miss the point of this post for a second and marvel at the fact that you nearly doubled your testosterone through diet, exercise, and supplements. That seems remarkable.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/09/18 03:28 AM
2

You should take pictures of some of the stupid sentences I write while I'm at work. All work involves stumbles, errors, and eventual improvement. Don't judge. He learned something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:53 PM
1

You're going to max out at some point. It's inevitable. What you do at that point is what separates the men from the boys.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/09/18 04:15 PM
1

Heavy lifting is just a different animal. There's a lot of psychology that goes along with it. Those initial lifts are mostly about not fucking up your back, etc. It takes a while to trust yourself. I believe it.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/09/18 04:00 PM
3

A strong core doesn't really look the same as beach body abs. Use those muscles to do something.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/09/18 03:56 PM
8

This is 100% true. I've been physically fit and active my entire adult life. I typically put > 1000 on my bike every year, I run, I do pushups, sit ups, pull ups on a regular basis, etc. So I figured I was muscular and masculine and everything that goes with that. Not even close. I started Crossfit about 9 months ago and my body has transformed. I've gained roughly 10 lbs. My clothes fit different. I swear my voice is deeper, my walk a little slower and more confident. I catch women checking me …
/r/MarriedRedPill11/09/18 03:51 PM
3

As a noob to this site (and philosophy), it's good to see this acknowledged. Even first contact with sidebar material makes you realize two things simultaneously - 1) your wife wants sex from the right guy, which might not be you; 2) everyone else's wife wants sex from the right guy, which might not be her husband. This presents a risk to your marriage but potentially a huge opportunity for your penis. My guess is that most of the guys here are interested in making their current marriage work an…
/r/askMRP10/09/18 05:11 PM
1

I don't think that's right. There's nothing wrong with being strong or repressing weak emotions. Those are masculine traits. In fact, we're told to open up our feelings and learn to express our weak emotions. We're told to make ourselves vulnerable and conform to some saccharin shadow of ourselves. For a lot of guys, this terrible advice can't go on indefinitely and at some point their masculinity pokes through. But if you aren't used to cultivating that kind of energy, it's easy to lose control…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 12:45 PM
1

Yeah, I wondered about that too. When I get little hurts like this, I expect and even like it when someone gives me shit. It's fun. Having someone rush to my side to comfort me makes me want to puke.
/r/askMRP08/09/18 12:24 PM
-2

Did that same poll ask men how happy they were while they were at work earning a living for their family? Was it also similar to how happy they are while doing household chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:01 PM
5

Bingo a million times. Dad jeans, playing Legos with the kids, renouncing all of my douchebag activities were apparently not sexy to her anymore. It was a total mystery that no one could solve.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/18 07:38 PM
1

I was on front foot re: Chad pretty much all of last year. I was slowly realizing that I needed to work on myself. RP was the first place that put it all together and actually gave some suggestions about HOW to work on yourself and what kinds of outcomes you're looking for.
/r/askMRP06/09/18 04:34 PM
3

What's the point of competition if no one is made uncomfortable? Pain is the way you learn and grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:38 PM
10

The Matrix began glitching for me 18 months ago. I was a drunk captain and my wife was suddenly getting very interested in another man. It's the husband of a friend of hers. His kids were spending a lot of time at our house while he was out riding his motorcycle or some other douchebag activity. On weekends his wife and kids would frequently come to our house and I would grill out for everyone. He, of course, would never show up. I would think "what a loser". But then I realized that while I was…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/18 02:48 PM
1

We're never out of the sexual marketplace.
/r/askMRP06/09/18 03:09 AM
1

Meh, it's just not her thing - at least not right now. We're in a sort of tense situation which may or may not involve a Chad. The longer goal is building my frame and leading. These piddly little shit questions are always about a lot more.
/r/askMRP06/09/18 03:06 AM
13

Male behavior equals bad behavior is probably 80 percent of what young men hear. That is what leads to toxic masculinity. It's a classic case of repressed behavior coming out in distorted ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:40 AM
7

What is up with that tiny girl with monster phenomenon? I find that so bizarre. It really is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:17 AM
0

Alright, I give. Who is the customer?
/r/askMRP05/09/18 09:29 PM
1

Feeling the burn. Sometimes getting your ass kicked is the best thing that can happen.
/r/askMRP05/09/18 03:36 PM
3

Gold answer. As someone alluded to earlier - it isn't about the house. I'll do an OYS on this soon, but the problem I see is that she bends over backwards in caretaking behavior for other people while laundry piles up. And it's emblematic of a larger issue: the kids need attention, our finances need attention, I need attention, etc. But instead she spends her days shuttling other peoples kids around and saving the world from imaginary threats. She has a knack for picking people that already have…
/r/askMRP05/09/18 03:01 PM
2

Riight. It's a covert contract. Those fuckers are everywhere.
/r/askMRP05/09/18 02:32 PM
2

Ah, the blue denim shirt. That's what I'm missing. I thought those were only for lesbians. Great resource! Red pill, here I come!
/r/askMRP05/09/18 09:15 AM
1

Kind of. It's getting better.
/r/askMRP05/09/18 02:53 AM
3

Geez, tell me about it.
/r/askMRP05/09/18 02:22 AM
1

I finished NMMNG and MMSLP is on the way. Remember, I've only been at this for two months. Is there one that speaks to this more directly?
/r/askMRP05/09/18 02:21 AM
1

Even the bluest-pill pop psychologist will tell you that marriages go through an "ordeal" that requires some major tinkering under the hood. The question is what that tinkering looks like and whether its effect is to save and strengthen a marriage. RP and BP are different strategies to respond to tgat well-known phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:05 AM
2

Best answer so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:00 AM
3

An open marriage and two divorced people co-habiting seem like fairly similar situations. Just be done with it if that's what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:59 PM
3

Great post. But it brings up something I've wondered about in RP and that is how all of this plays out across cultures. The few Russians I've known and worked with have been fairly insufferable about certain things. They are nice enough people but if it comes to matters if opinion on certain things, they have a hyper-dominant way of stating their opinions. I'd say they have frame but it's too ham-fisted and so it comes off as amusing. Because concepts like frame, DNGAF, A&A, etc depend on such c…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/09/18 01:19 PM
2

When you say "cleaning" you mean like cleaning the house? This is a thing? Seems subservient. Real question. (And , yes I do a lot around the house)
/r/askMRP04/09/18 02:58 AM
1

I just started getting these and I can say I've failed every one of them. I sound pathetic and reassuring. Gag. Thanks for asking the question. Good suggestions on here.
/r/askMRP04/09/18 02:33 AM
1

So what happens when those life partners become different people than the person you hooked up with? Or enter a stage of life where providing becomes more important than being young, brash, arrogant, and sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 01:42 AM
1

Ah, but what is love? Sure, someone can love you, but do they love you in the way you love them or in the way you wish to be loved or that the fairy option 2 suggests is possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 07:12 PM
1

It isn't dead or sore. It just is. If you would have talked to me six months ago, I would have been a wreck. The whole thing has been a huge growth experience. Long story short, when parts of your brain whisper to you that something doesn't add up or that language and action present competing realities, listen to those whispers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 07:10 PM
1

Oh well, too late. I've already had three kids and have been married 15 years. Up until a few months ago I would have thought option 2 was possible. But, you are never out if the sexual marketplace. There is no "ever after". You have to gather up the manna yourself every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 06:14 PM
10

And cover up all those pictures of Leonardo DiCaprio? What's gotten into you?
/r/askMRP03/09/18 04:43 PM
1

Option 2 is a fantasy. So, option 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 04:41 PM
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Okay, giving this some more thought. You are the proverbial kid who found a stick of dynamite in an abandoned lot. It's tempting to think of all the cool shit you could do with it. But more likely you'll end the day with three fewer fingers than you started it with. Take this as an AWALT moment and use it to become Red pill.
/r/askMRP03/09/18 04:08 PM
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Those ones were really disturbing. Brain bleach please!
/r/askMRP03/09/18 04:02 PM
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I assume these are from before you were married? Endless playful banter could come out of this if you play your cards right. Personally, I'd never be able to pull it off. Maybe you can.
/r/askMRP03/09/18 04:02 PM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy and then When I Say No I Feel Guilty. I suspect that despite the fact that you aren't married you will find some similarities with folks posting on askMRP. I recommend checking it out. You are right that you need to focus on physical health first, but remember, that's just the cash-in. The hard work can really only start once you get fit enough.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 03:04 PM
1

Victim pukes. Which is one of the designated uses of askMRP.
/r/askMRP03/09/18 04:41 AM
1

Hmm. She went to a guy's house instead of the gym? I'm not liking the sound of that. But I'll stick with dread as an answer. I think it can work even in cases where cheating could occur or has occurred. If she's cheating it's because she doesn't fear losing you - either because she doesn't think you'll leave, or because she doesn't perceive the benefits of staying with you. Dread isn't about saving the marriage, it's about developing options and making your wife aware that you have them. What ha…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/09/18 04:23 AM
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I think Dread is the way to go. But I see Dread fairly broadly as steps you take to improve your SMV (among other things). I was digging through a post from way before my time and one commenter said that BP lulled him into thinking about marriage as a sexual "defined benefits program". That's where I was too. I thought it was time for me to stop worrying about how I'm perceived by the opposite sex because I had my marital annuity in place. It doesn't work like that.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/09/18 07:52 PM
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Worry a lot more about the n after you're married. One is ideal and greater than one is still better than zero.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/18 12:44 PM
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Oh, thought n was number of kids. Why ask me about sexual partners before marriage? I only have one example to work from and all of that fades into oblivion once you get married anyhow. You reach a different level of problems.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/18 01:35 AM
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Ha! I love the n construction. Our n is three. But n is weird because it comes down to shit you never would have considered. An n of 3 puts you in minivan territory. If you are in a n= 2 community it's hard to find equal-numbered playdates. It goes on. But in our case n 3 is my buddy, so it's bizarre to think about stopping at 2. TL; DR - who the fuck knows? Do what your inner alpha says.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/18 12:41 AM
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How old is your youngest? My wife bounced back big time when our youngest turned about 5. A lot of other fucked up shit happened simultaneously, but her body found its full woman form. The sex is getting better, but lots of other things aren't as good. Which is why I'm on TRP, lol. Given that we haven't completely destroyed marriage yet, I think it's wise to be realistic about the advice on this sub. The RP'd ones have a huge advantage, but more than likely they will experience the messed up thi…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/18 12:08 AM
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When the red flags started popping up for me, I freaked big time and made the problem three times as bad. The problem was my conditioning to believe that the mother of my children wasn't capable of fucking up a marriage. I really thought that as long as I kept my dick in my pants and did my share of choreplay, we would be fine. I have no confirmation that anything actually transpired despite months of snooping. But that in itself is an object lesson on why you don't go there. It's harder than yo…
/r/MarriedRedPill31/08/18 09:40 PM
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It's a moot point, like angels dancing on the head of a pin. I would wear her out, no matter who it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:47 PM
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That's definitely the impression I'm getting from the comments, lol. Where this comes from is the fact that I'm starting to order sidebar reading material (NMMNG, MMSLP, Art of Seduction so far) and I'm having these shipped to my office and developing a "stash" of masculine enhancement books in my filing cabinet. It takes me back to adolescent days of Hustler in the treehouse. Fine. I can do this. But, it does seem to go against the "integrated man" narrative in NMMNG.
/r/askMRP31/08/18 06:27 PM
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You're an inspiration. Me, a MRP-type, I'm improving but still have a lot of slack in that 1000 ft rope.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/18 04:43 PM
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Take out your frustrations here. And realize that it's your job to suffer, at least for now.
/r/askMRP30/08/18 02:00 PM
1

Bingo. Put another way, a man needs to improve his sexual market value throughout his life even if he is married and has children. This takes his primary focus off of his family and puts it on himself and protecting himself against cheating by his wife. Guys will do this even if it means borrowing against the future, doing a worse job of raising his family and jeopardizing the long-term welfare of his family. As a man, you are never in a situation where you can let your guard down. Providing is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 04:05 AM
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If this is only the tip, I must be hung like friggin' LeBron James. Seriously, I'm counting my pre-RP phase as part of the anger phase. I wouldn't have gotten anything out of this 6 months ago. Someday I'll do an OYS about the early days of this. And I hope you're keeping your responses somewhere. Fucking classics.
/r/askMRP30/08/18 12:57 AM
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My favorite article about this is in TRP sidebar and it's titled "Women: the most responsible teenager in the house". It argues that women develop intellect and emotional intelligence early in life and then plateau at a stage men typically reach in their late 20s. When we're young, horny, destructive, and stupid, they are goddesses of reason. But as you age, you begin to realize they are sort of "stuck". This isn't a judgement, it's a statement of reality. Understand this situation and figure ou…
/r/askMRP29/08/18 08:23 PM
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Women in no way give a flying fuck about what you feel. In fact they will use it against you. Yup. Just starting my RP journey, but this is the best revelation so far. I am often surprised how much of this information is basic intuition and instinct that has been clouded by bad advice from the BP-industrial complex.
/r/askMRP29/08/18 04:00 PM
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This is something that always trips me up. My tendency is to plan and save and deny myself the fruits of my labor, so to speak. But TRP, and even MRP to some extent is an expensive endeavor. It recommends having hobbies, a life outside of the house, lifting, valuing yourself as a person outside of the marriage which usually involves some amount of nights out, new clothes, etc. This is incompatible with the frugal living of my father's generation.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/08/18 05:29 PM
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We definitely agree there. I just wouldn't underestimate the difficultues that come with splitting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 12:17 AM
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But they have time and money for a divorce? That makes no sense. I gotta run, but I'm coming at this as a left winger who is reconsidering the logic of some of our very well-intentioned social tinkering. I'm seeing some behaviors and outcomes in a slightly different light and I'm wondering if US-brand Left gas been too dismissive of male concerns and too willing to see masculinity in a negative light. I also worry that marital instability sounds like a nice perk when you have the resources to fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:50 PM
1

"It's better for shitty marriages to end" - and that's what this is, a way of greasing the skids to allow that to happen. At least we can both acknowledge it. Where we differ is in what constitutes a "shitty" marriage and what lengths individuals should go to in order to figure out how to work together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:13 PM
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I'm telling you that I've been in on some of these conversations and the perspective is that "those who nurture and raise our children" refers to women, with an emphasis on single moms, who are supposedly being bilked out of compensation. I had the same reaction - wait, we have EITC. But, there again, EITC is need-based, UBI is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:51 PM
0

One absurd comment deserves another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:21 PM
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http://www.gp.org/social_justice_2016 "We also support other programs such as a universal basic income (known also as a guaranteed income or Citizen Dividend, as described in True Cost Pricing and Tax Fairness, IV. E.) that will provide for those who nurture the next generation — work that is of incalculable importance to our society." It isn't stated directly in the platform, but this idea comes from the notion that the job of raising and nurturing children properly is essentially labor that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:20 PM
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I know how much alpha traits are promoted here and for good reason. Probably if you found TRP it was because of your beta behaviors and so it makes sense that your alpha is in need of some help. But when you read NMMNG and Athol Kay, among others, they will state or imply that what you really need is a mixture of alpha & beta traits that maximize your value in a relationship. Do I have this right?
/r/askMRP27/08/18 01:23 PM
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Anyhow, the problem in the case I mentioned above is the pre-supposition that all material goods should be split and the kids should go with the mother if there is a split. If the wife is unhappy, she should be allowed to leave, but why should she be allowed to pull the rest of the family down with her? Subsidizing the work of raising kids with something as direct as the green party is suggesting only encourages people to split up and it adds greater instability to families. Mind you, they aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:38 AM
0

So take her kids and put them in a state-funded orphanage? Seems a little harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:17 AM
5

Who has primary responsibility for the well-being of the children, the parents or the State?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 03:33 AM
2

The current situation encourages men to maintain the appearance of alpha traits through ostentatious spending and/or behaviors, many of which are detrimental to the long-term stability of the family unit. If you want to keep your wife and not be a cuckold, you have to maintain your sexual market value. A world which had more risk to non-monogamous women would encourage male behaviors that are consistent with providing and protecting. Saving, living within your means, planning for the future, dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 03:24 PM
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Sorry, but booshit. You are still you to the extent you allow that to happen. Kill (in the figurative sense) the concept of you, of self. Become a new version of you. Not gonna lie. It's difficult, painful, lonely, uncertain, and confusing. The times I've been through this, I think of it as "burning". Unbearable, insomnia, constant second-guessing, the ocassional 2am walk around the block shouting and crying. At the same time, you have infinitely more resources available to you than previous gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:44 AM
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A friend of my wife, a hippy dancer type, was married to her first husband for 15 years. They had two kids and slept in a family bed (yes, it's a thing, and kill me first, please) which was 100 % her idea but he went along with it out of pure devotion. As far as I could tell he was a devoted husband with a good job and was madly in love with his wife. She didn't feel the same way. She had an affair with a friend of theirs and divorced her husband for her lover. She got half of everything but bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:33 AM
1

But it still has to have enough integrity to either completely cover the matrix or accept the circumstance that the matrix exists. The truth I was living before was fraying around the edges and the truth of the matter started poking through. As I've said before, I really tried to keep that truth together, but it just didn't work. I discovered the red pill by accident,and it struck me immediately as being correct about many things. What differentiates the red pill from your run of the mill emascu…
/r/askMRP25/08/18 04:06 PM
1

The happy cuckold. I'm sure such a thing exists somewhere. It wasn't a question of if but when.
/r/askMRP25/08/18 08:57 AM
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DO NOT underestimate the broader societal relevance. This is actually revolutionary material.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/18 05:34 AM
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Even though it is frowned upon in TRP, LTRs and even marriage are pretty fundamental goals for most of us. The "next" in this sense is a more informed approach to those circumstances. Many of the underlying concepts in TRP become indispensable in MRP. The application is a bit different, but the important lessons transfer very well.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/18 05:32 AM
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Thanks, absorbing the info now. The RedPill journey is fascinating to me in part because I think I was more of an alpha type up until 15 months ago or so. In the vernacular of MRP, my frame got its ass kicked...hard. The idea that there are elements of life that don't enter your consciousness because they are not part of your reality is pretty much a short summary of the early part of my adult life. The problem, that I'm seeing now, is that the reality I had built was faulty. Blindness to AWALT,…
/r/askMRP25/08/18 04:59 AM
1

Yeah, I understand that. I'm eager to learn and may be sprinting a little too hard right now. I'll find my pace soon. The larger picture is that I went through 15 months of agony burning the blue pill out of me and came across the redpill a few weeks ago. My mental image is the Redpill being a trailhead. It probably leads to where I want to go, but it's a long trail. After not really seeing a way forward for the last 15 months, the natural tendency is to start hurrying even though you can't poss…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/08/18 02:00 PM
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I hear that all the time and reading about it in the sidebar, I think I get it and then it sort of fades. I'm bouncing between "frame" as being a sort of emotional discipline, to being a kind of container that allows you to collect experiences, to frame being a reason you get out of bed in the morning. I'm also struggling a little with the differences between frame test and shit test. I think these are different.
/r/askMRP23/08/18 09:56 PM
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Somewhere on TRP sidebar there's a piece of advice that any vow proclaimed by a woman needs to be understood to have the phrase "right now I feel like...." preceding it. As in "Right now I feel like, until death do us part".
/r/MarriedRedPill23/08/18 07:00 PM
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"I'm getting close to being done with veterinary school and don't need this man anymore. Too bad about the foot, but that's life".
/r/MarriedRedPill23/08/18 06:50 PM
2

Your short term mission could be to stop worrying about your long-term mission. Make yourself available for your calling when it finally comes for you.
/r/askMRP23/08/18 12:40 PM
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Just starting here. So my ointment is chock full of flies. Everyone says it starts with frame, so that's what I'm working on first.
/r/askMRP23/08/18 12:30 PM
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First, thanks for the thoughtful post. And you are right that this is something I haven't let go of and that still bothers me and makes me mad. In fact, that should probably be the subject of my next OYS. In terms of the blueprint and advice, thanks again. This is what makes TRP and MRP such powerful resources. There is the recognition of a reality that is essentially beyond our control, but instead of stopping with victimology and venom, there are real resources that when put together give you …
/r/MarriedRedPill22/08/18 11:08 PM
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Good post. For newbies, this concept is as essential as it is difficult. Drawing a line in the sand, sticking to it, and doing so in a completely charming and disarming way soinds as difficult as juggling steak knives. There are the "naturals" out there who have an internalized ability to do this, but for most of us, drawing your line and defending it is an action full of confrontation and seemingly at odds with amused mastery, etc. My guess is the first key is becoming comfortable having bounda…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/08/18 06:43 PM
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This is simply an honest reflection of reality, like the sky being blue or fire being hot. Resist the urge to project morality on the situation and think of it as information.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 05:58 PM
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The story is a lot longer than this. Bottom line is that she has a job with him now and is really involved in the organization. I called it a volunteer project, and it is for most people, but it has a nonprofit arm too. His kids and my kids are friends. His wife is friends with my wife. This predates my hunches. I think he likes me and has made some gestures toward frienship, but I really dislike him and the feelz between him and my wife. It isn't appropriate and he's entirely fucking cognizant …
/r/MarriedRedPill22/08/18 03:44 AM
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This guy just seems to gave a vortex around him. You know how these volunteer groups are. It's 99% retirees and stay at home moms and then this one guy who sort of drives the bus. That's him. I know she's clever, I know she has lied to me, and I had a similar hunch as you. But the snooping didn't turn up anything. Doesn't mean 100% it didn't happen. But I don't have confirmation. Whatever the case, whatever the outcome, I'm here and working on myself. That's my priority. And it isn't like I didn…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/08/18 03:10 AM
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Geez, not sure where to start with my son. It seems to be some kind of autoimmune disorder, but it is expressed in many different ways. Sometimes asthma, sometimes inflammation in his back that can prevent him from walking. Every doctor has their own theory and they have proven to be wrong. What makes you say she banged him? I wondered about this for a long time and like I said I went so far as to snoop on her for a few months - which turned up empty. Would that change my plan? I don't know yet.…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/08/18 12:01 AM
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The problem with the concept of love is that it has been beaten and torn into a grotesque simulation of itself. I sometimes wonder if love is possible given the baggage and unintended meanings that come with it. I think a lifelong commitment that is sometimes passionate, sometimes icy, sometimes solitary, and sometimes 100% on point is completely possible. Is this love? Who can say? Should it be more like a Disney movie? It's not really a conscious decision I make either. So it's not a keeping s…
/r/askMRP21/08/18 10:45 PM
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Okay, thanks. I have some other questions about the whole point and aim of game & seduction when you're MRP. Regular RP is more than self-explanatory, but with MRP there seems to be a fine line. I'm guessing some of this will be clarified in MMSLP.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 06:34 PM
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I realize how nerdy this sounds, but what are the best resources for learning game? Like I said, I'm starting MMSLP this week, but do you recommend something else?
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 04:49 PM
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FIRST OYS 44, wife 45, married 15 years, 3 kids – 12 (B), 10 (G), 6 (B) 5’8”, 165 lbs, 15 % body fat. Major lifts: DL 320, SQ 260, BP 175. First OYS for me. I discovered Red Pill about 6 weeks ago completely by accident, but the timing could not have been better. This followed a very, very difficult year between my wife and I which I will explain a little bit below. I’m an admitted noob and I’m still working on Dread level 1. Read NMMNG twice, starting MMSLP this week. I’ve been inhaling the sid…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 03:47 PM
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I guarantee the shit tests are there and you aren't recognizing them. "The lawn needs to be mowed" doesn't strike me as a shit test. Telling you that you mowed it wrong would be a shit test. I always think of shit tests as being subjective opinions stated as plain facts. Like if it could be said, she would go "I want to control your perceptions, will you allow me to?"
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 02:51 PM
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