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Question For MenJupitersjunky/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:16 PM
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CMVJupitersjunky/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:11 PM
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CMVJupitersjunky/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:43 PM
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This has nothing to do with sex. I am female and that's the idea of love I subscribe to. Love isn't all about how nice someone makes YOU feel. I think you have a very skewed, narcissistic idea of love set up in your head or you could just be here to do damage control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:43 PM
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Sorry love does not come from feeling safe. People feel safe with their doctor/therapist. This does not cause love. Love stems from a genuine desire to protect others, even if it's at your own cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:34 PM
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Why do I have no logical reason, again? Because they were pretty blunt about the reasons they chose less attractive partners. If it was due to love and a desire to nurture, they would've told you that. Not sure what you're not comprehending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:30 PM
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That's not what I'm asking at all. I'm simply saying you have no logical reason to assume they chose these men out of love and a desire to nurture. Otherwise, they would've said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:25 PM
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Feeling safe with someone is not the same as loving them. These women made it clear that they got with these men out of insecurity/to feel safe. Nothing loving about that. Kinda predatory/incl logic. It's the same reason they want virgins now. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:23 PM
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If they had love for the "underdogs" or wanted to nurture them, I see no reason why they wouldn't have just said that...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:11 PM
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Lol. So even though they blatantly told you they are dating these guys for security purposes, you wanna believe it's out of love? Am I reading this correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:45 PM
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Okay so explain yourself? Why do you think it's out of love and a desire to nurture?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:35 PM
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First you claim this.. There’s a reason most “pretty” or “hot” women end up marrying unconventional looking men; it’s because a lot of women out there love or want to nurture, Then you say this... When I ask them, “why are you with this guy,” the number one answer is always: because he won’t leave or cheat on me. This is clearly an assumption based on how the man looks. If you know they're with these men due to insecurity, why would you claim they are with them because they love or want to nurtu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:31 PM
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Okay. Support it with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:39 PM
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Can I repost and change it to a CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:52 PM
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What does this childish behavior have to do with femininity? It's not suddenly a feminine trait because toxic women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:12 AM
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What do you mean by "fuck up"? Lol. Unless you're talking about pure accidents, I don't know what you mean. People like to pretend they had no clue about their partners dark side until years of dating so no, allegedly veryone doesn't just "figure it out".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:53 AM
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I probably wouldn't be the most comfortable with knowing but I'd be more uncomfortable not knowing. I don't consider it trauma dumping if you're only disclosing the information to warn others. Trauma dumping is when you spew your traumas for therapeutic reasons. You might say that it'll give you a chance to weed out people who have any baggage, but unfortunately I have bad news for you. There isn't a single adult human who hasn't had some shit happen to them, doesn't have any insecurities, never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:46 AM
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😂 Anyways, you're not forcing anything if you ask them if they would like a warning. We already clarified that you can warn them. You also do not have to deliver the information this way. It's okay to have social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:45 PM
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This was confusing so correct me if I'm wrong. Are you saying you will withhold a secret if you think it's best they don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:33 PM
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Its not about therapy. It's about warning others what they're getting into and safety.. Your weaknesses are apart of who you really are whether you like it or not. It's only stupid to a society that operates on deception. People don't hide who they are because it's "rude", they hide it in fear of shame and rejection. Your waste won't harm me but your secrets might.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:08 PM
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Why not disclose your weaknesses, even in context? If someone would not be comfortable with who you truly are, even with context, why not give them the opportunity to reject who you truly are and set thier own boundaries? Why don't you respect boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:55 PM
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I'll answer your questions right after you answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:49 PM
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You can ask them if they want a warning of who you are deep down. Now what excuse are you gonna come up with next? And if you don't wanna know these things about the person you're letting in your life, then I suggest you get help along with him. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:32 PM
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Lol. So would you warn your next potential partner of who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:18 PM
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You give her the opportunity to leave before she invest anymore energy into you and potentially save yourself from her wrath.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:16 PM
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Would you warn your partner of these dark traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:01 PM
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Again, I'm not saying you can know someone only through words but you can get a pretty good idea of who they are based on their honest analysis of themselves. Don't make me repeat myself. I'm suggesting that you start a conversation about the significant dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors you have. Simply disclose them if you know it will likely lead to rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:59 PM
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But I am aware that my actions will be much more important than my words. Sure but that doesn't explain why you won't verbally warn them of your dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors yourself. Not everyone is mature enough to investigate and ask the right questions. I'm sure you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:38 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about in that first bit so I'll move on to what matters. Yeah, I'm not saying words alone is enough to know someone but how someone perceives themselves can give you a pretty good idea if they're honest. You seem to want to hide who you are. Based on what I've read, you fear rejection. If someone is not comfortable with who you truly are, even with context, why not give them the opportunity to reject who you truly are and set thier own boundaries? Why don't you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:20 PM
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If this is true, kudos to you. Most people wouldn't dare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:05 PM
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If we were the same, what would be the difference? I never said yall were the same. I just said you share the same dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors. Because they have to figure out others themselves. I'm not obligated to rip my heart out of my body and offer it to everyone I just meet. Yeah, no one said tell everyone but your partner. Why send them on a mission to "figure" you out when you could just tell them? So I would warn about things that could endanger them. I would give hints, man…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:57 PM
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Lol. Strawmanning. Ad hominem. No rebuttal. Why am I not shocked? 🤭 I never said you had to tell everyone your weaknesses. I know that's an easier argument to attack but try harder. If you hide significant information about your character from partners (you know will likely result in rejection) you're a decietful parasite that's afraid of truth because you're afraid you will no longer have access to feed on their energy. This is why you present yourself as trustworthy knowing its not true. Trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:37 PM
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Warn yourself or them? Why only some?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:22 PM
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You did not answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:13 PM
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And what dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors do you think you should hide from your partner and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:06 PM
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As far as my post goes, I think you should tell everyone who you're dating so that they know who they may be dealing with. They should have the information they need to make a fair judgment on who they're allowing in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:47 PM
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Lol. I don't have dark thoughts on a normal desire to simply reproduce. Nothing wrong with the desire. I have dark thoughts on the sociopaths that force innocent kids into a world they know is dangerous and unpredictable. What's weird is depending on children for happiness in life and gambling with thier safety to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:36 PM
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Why would I tell them? It's not for them to know. I am not obliged to be utterly open about every dark thought I have. Nobody is. This goes to show you aren't trustworthy and you know it's a big deal. Lol. Case closed. You prove you aren't trustworthy because you don't even value the person having the opportunity to have clear judgment on who they're allowing in their life. Honesty is only seen as social incompetence because deceitful parasites are AFRAID of truth. Sane people want to know who t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:30 PM
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What are you even asking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:21 PM
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But they still lead normal, well-adjusted lives and it never matters. I'm sorry but do you know what they do in secret? If so, how? So, if you're comfortable with it and it's not a big deal, you would tell them all your dark weaknesses and thoughts deep down as warning, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:13 PM
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I didn't ask you if you'd trust someone who simply has dark thoughts but the SAME dark thoughts as you. I see you also ignored the dark behavior part as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:09 PM
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So if you find out someone acted on a dark weakness in the past that hurt people, you'd trust them until what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:59 PM
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I never said no one had the right to break up with anyone. I agree that both should go their own way if they do not want the same things. There is often "need" for a threat which is why so many "monogamous" relationships exist. Coercion by today's standards is as simple as pressuring/threatening people in attempts to persuade them. If you threaten to dump your gf/bf today because they won't have sex with you, you could be accused of r*pe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:47 PM
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Did you not see the edit in my OP? Health reasons and paternity fraud isn't the motive behind this at all because we have paternity test in 2022 and you wouldn't allow it even if you knew the person she was sleeping was clean. What ick factor are you referring to? Why would you feel betrayed in an open relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:30 PM
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The same amount of time they spend with other loved ones is the same amount of time they can spend with another romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:26 PM
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I explained it in the OP. He fears being compared to other men sexually in fear he will be outshined.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:16 PM
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Stability in what? Consistency in what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:15 PM
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I put quotations around monogamous people because I'm referring to fake monogamous people, not all. I'm not saying polygamy is the solution. I think people need to simply be honest about their motives and be real about their capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:14 PM
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You're arguing with your own delusions as well. I never said monogamy was pure fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:10 PM
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I never declined that. I said it's almost always someone who feels pressured into monogamy. Society even pressures people into monogamy because we know it's rarely an equally natural desire. How do you know your husband feels the same way? You think if your husband had the pick of the litter and had no desire for validation, he'd be with you? If you gotta force yourself to be monogamous with someone, then your partner is not satisfying you in ways no one could.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:05 PM
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So why can't you procreate with your wife if she's simply sleeping with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:00 PM
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Sure. I'm not denying that you've invested energy into knowing them. Could be someone from your past.. But you made it seems like romantically being involved with others was just this incredibly time consuming thing. Its not that bad depending on the relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:58 PM
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Nope. You're not answering the question. This conversation isn't about intimacy. You don't just get to change your argument mid conversation and avoid acknowledging inconsistencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:55 PM
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Who said it had to be a stranger? Point is, people have time for sex with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:54 PM
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You may be either self-unaware of how you'd react under true temptation or you're just lying. Then on the other hand, you may be delusional about how your husband truly feels. I never said couples cannot be mutually happy. When two people are naturally monogamous with one another, that's fine. But if someone felt pressured to be monogamous in anyway, then I don't believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:52 PM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:49 PM
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Yeah, your word means nothing. Some people are liars, self-unaware or delusional about how their partner truly feels. EDIT: This woman's husband has trouble with porn addiction and getting hard in the bedroom but she's so sure he only wants her. She deleted her post BTW. This is the delusions of coerced monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:48 PM
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First of all, nowhere did I use the word forced. I'm not saying anyone is forced into a monogamous relationship. My only issue is with coerced/pressured monogamy. I think they can enjoy their relationship with their partner but people who do not naturally wanna be monogamous may feel depressed/restricted when they cannot explore other enticing romantic partners. You can commit to more than one person as long as you do not neglect the other. Wedding vows are based in delusion and married people m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:46 PM
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Okay so are you saying you'd only require monogamy from your wife? Are you saying you can't procreate with your wife is she's sleeping with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:37 PM
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What's the purpose of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:33 PM
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Why do you fear her sleeping with other people while in the relationship? Start here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:31 PM
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How much time and energy you invest in your relationships depends of the nature of the relationship. If it's just sex, you're not spending that much time getting off. You can spare an hour or 2. Plenty of cheaters do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:30 PM
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I never said everyone wanted to date multiple people in my OP nor did I say anyone was forced into monogamy. I never said simple fear of losing a loved one was insecurity either. You're arguing against your own delusions at this point. No one said you had to "love" anyone to be in multiple romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:28 PM
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I simply dont like to share someone I am happy with. Yeah, no. "I just don't" is not pinpointing motive. There is a motive/reason behind everything whether you are aware of it or not. I dont see how a fear of rejection would make me possessive/jealous. I simply find another if I am rejected... That's the thing. It's not just about finding another person but being able to find someone just as fulfilling or better. I am mono because sharing experience with one person is more worth while and meanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:22 PM
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Fear of what? Feelings of inadequacy and fear that they cannot obtain better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:19 PM
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Uh, you are sadly mistaken. There is a such thing as "irreplaceable" women. No matter how hard they try, those other girls are just not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm not shaming. I just want people to admit that it's rooted in ego and insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:13 PM
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I don't see how anything I've said is fallacious in this way. I'm not saying it's wrong just because it's unnatural if that's what you're implying. We have rather few hours in our usual day and if I had to divide them with someone else and get only a few hours a week, that would be a pretty sad situation imv. So this is a matter of time? If they have time for other loved ones, why can't they have time for other romantic partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:12 PM
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There’s only three truly close relationships one can have. This is nonsense. I have a really close bond with my siblings and they will always be one of my top priorities, even above my parents. This varies depending on who you are most compatible with in life. And they are all different and thus not directly comparable, friendships and extended family is nice and all, but they’re not on the same level. Doesn't matter if they are on the same level. Point is, no one NEEDS all their care and affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:09 PM
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Monogamy is simply the most ideal means of bringing the transcendent Self into greater communion with the divine within the realm of romance. What do you mean? Try not to use buzzwords to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:59 PM
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I'm not just talking about martial monogamy but people dating "exclusively" in general. Some people believe there are still virgins in more religious communities in America to marry. Then you have men who talk about going overseas for a virgin wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:57 PM
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I was never hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:04 PM
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By Google definition, it is coercion. By societal standards, it's coercion. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:01 PM
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while describing non-monogamous people as willing to give up their orientation and preference to make sure their partner stays with them. That’s being a coward, not being coerced! If you're threatening to end a relationship with someone because they do not want monogamy, that's coercion by today's societal standards. Yes, simply threatening to end a relationship is "coercion" now. If you give into pressure, you are a coward but you were still coerced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:51 PM
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She can get pregnant. Investing your resources into someone who’s at risk of getting impregnated by another man is a fools errand. Again, paternity test or she can give the child up. She will invest less, there’s no way around that given that we don’t have infinite time and energy. Sure but she will also invest less if she spends time with family or friends. Do you really need her all to yourself? You also didn't explain how it's heartbreaking. It breaks the ego, not the heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:35 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:30 PM
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Not at all. Yall like to believe there is something "wrong" with poly people when really, they're just honest about their desires while "monogamous" people tend to sell one another a dream just to feel safe. This is why cheating is such a common thing. You're lying to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:29 PM
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I understand if you want the Disney fantasy and wanna feel confident that someone will only desire you for eternity, but people do not simply desire only one person. They will inevitably want to secretly be with others if they come across someone enticing. I'm sorry. Desiring others and wanting to experience others romantically is not narcissism. Narcissism is expecting someone to only have eyes for you when you know you aren't the best in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:21 PM
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hmmmm, so they dont wanna lose their partner neither huh. Yes but that doesn't mean they want to be exclusive hence why cheating/betrayal is prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:15 PM
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Why it is an issue with men? Women receive validation constantly , it's not wrong for a guy in romantic relationship to feel special. TRP is right, lol. I didn't single out any particular sex with this statement. I'm saying it's a problem to want to feel special through validation from others because it's rooted in insecurity. You should have self-confidence independent of others. It's unhealthy to depend on others to validate you. You have already said about former, but the latter means that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:13 PM
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Your partner is still stuck with a child that isn’t yours that you’re forced to raise (if you live together). You're just making stuff up now. She can always get the child deleted or give it up for adoption. If she wants to keep it, you do not have to stick around to raise it. You’re now the dude she sees 2 hours from time to time, if you’re lucky. She can still regularly see you if she wants to. Even if you only get 2 hours from time to time, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:06 PM
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First of all, I never implied that people who want monogamy are unattractive. I just think they fear rejection and fear not being to do better. Even attractive people know they can be outshined by others and potentially lose their partners validation. due to emotional and attraction reasons, not pragmatic reasons as a virgin woman wont look past your unnattractive shortcomings The belief that she will not compare you to others is what makes them emotionally attractive. What other attraction reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:01 PM
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Like I said, paternity test exist in 2022. Plus, you should make sure your partner is being safe before you agree to polygamy. If she chooses the baby's father over you in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:52 PM
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Polygamy doesn't mean you're spending a lot of time with several people. It could just be meeting up with one other person for 2 hours. Two hours away doesn't mean you lost them for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:47 PM
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Well why did you choose your husband over the others? It doesn't take much time to compare. Thoughts and judgments are pretty "snap". People lie for a variety of reasons on this board but I won't get into detail. I think people should be concerned about comparison because it does impact how certain people may treat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:44 PM
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How so? In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:40 PM
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You don't disagree. You and I both know that. But run along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:38 PM
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Yeah, you kinda benefit from this narrative so I honestly don't expect transparency. People inevitably compare others which is how we judge and choose who we prefer to be with overall. You expect people to believe you as a human being do not naturally compare your partners sexually even though to compare them in every other area when choosing who to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:37 PM
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Oh okay. Right. Yes, people try to pressure their partner into committing because they believe they personally cannot have anyone better than their current partner. This is rooted in insecurity and fear of rejection because they need this particular person to feel good about themselves and do not believe they are good enough to find another fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:34 PM
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I'm saying this is the reason they value monogamy with certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:29 PM
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Yes. Which is why they try to pressure their partner into committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:26 PM
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You can create long term family communities in polyamorous relationships if you want to. We know that's not the issue here. People want monogamy even when they have no intentions on building a family with someone. They want monogamy even when they're just "having fun."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:18 PM
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If it was based on insecurity we wouldn't mind our partners sleeping with other men as long as they were uglier/ less attractive. I very much doubt many men would be ok with that. Because they know even a less physically attractive man can still be better in bed. They can't risk that. How would monogamy come from fear of rejection? Most men would be less likely to get rejected if they agreed theirnoartner could bang other people, we'd just rather not have that relatiinship. Because if another ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:12 PM
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People do not want their partners to upgrade because people do not like to feel inferior or feel like they're second best. They want to feel special or better than others. Pure egotism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:07 PM
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I don't have issues with monogamy. I have issues with unnatural or pressured monogamy. I take issue with the insecurities that drive this form of monogamy. I want their all romantic affection, because I also want them to receive all of mine. I don’t want to spread myself around several people and I want my partner to have the same level of dedication. Yeah, you initially said affection, not romantic affection. With that being said you also said you want all their care. Do you expect them to comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:06 PM
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Again, you don't have to completely lose them in a polygamous relationship. You don't have to completely leave someone's life just because you are romantically involved with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:00 PM
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First of all, most "monogamous" relationships are not naturally monogamous. Someone almost always feels pressured into it. So to say there are many, many couples who happily choose monogamy is a reach. There are a lot of people who simply agree to monogamy when it's requested to keep their partner, not because they genuinely want exclusivity. Don't be deceived. If you gotta ask for commitment or threaten to leave without commitment, it's not natural or happily chosen. Most of the time, the perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:58 PM
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I'm not saying your fear isn't valid, I'm saying it's rooted in insecurity and fear you won't be able to upgrade. I just want people to be honest about the origins of their fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:48 PM
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So are you telling me when you find your favorite person, you completely stop splitting your time amongst family and friends as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:34 PM
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You can choose to only date her. But that doesn't explain why you want her to ONLY be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:31 PM
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This does not explain why you would require monogamy from your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:26 PM
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People are jealous and possessive creatures and we generally want our partners all for ourselves. I know this. My post is touching on where that jealously and possessiveness STEMS from. It stems from a FEAR of rejection and feat that you will not be able to find better. These issues are rooted in insecurity. but also because we want to have all of their affection, care etc. Why do you want all the affection and care? You're almost there. A lot of people care for their partners and don’t want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:25 PM
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Just to be clear, my post applies to both sexes. I'm not signaling out the men, Monogamy is popular because at our root human beings are territorial beings who like to claim ownership over people and things. Yes and I'm touching on WHY we have that desire when dating certain people. We do not have this desire to own everyone we date. It's inconsistent for a reason. Secondly monogamy makes it easier for a person to dig deep and get a much greater closer understanding of a person than polyamory do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:22 PM
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I'm arguing the same talking points of a polygamous male so my views have nothing to do with my sex. Why would he take that shitty deal for any woman who most likely will end up divorcing him? He loses sexual variety, constant NRE and not even gonna lie, female validation. A man may not see that deal as shitty if he believes he has the best woman he will ever get. Like I said, people do not demand monogamy unless they fear rejection and do not believe they can upgrade at that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:19 PM
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The reason why I don't believe most men are genuinely repulsed by experienced women is because they still desire to sleep with her and would sleep with her if given the opportunity. When we're genuinely disgusted by someone, we do not desire them at all. Your mind and body would reject them. We know who they're really repulsed by based on who they completely ignore. Many men have tunnel vision on experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:13 PM
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Nope. That's too vague. Tell them what I told you to say verbatim. Tell them how you'd leave them in the dust if they became disabled and unable to please you. You won't because you're a parasitic coward. We're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:30 PM
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This is what manipulators say when people see through thier misleading lies. Complete babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:39 AM
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If they know, then you'll have nothing to lose :) Just to make sure they do not have false expectations, you should warn them. Betcha won't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:17 AM
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Empathy alone does not make someone prioritize and value your well being and best interest. You're not gonna water this down. Sorry. If you're referring to a romantic partnership, you choose based on who's the best fit for you romantically, not out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:42 PM
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Nope, you need to specifically tell them that they will not be your number #1 priority and you will not put their feelings above your own. You need to tell them that their worth in your life depends on their ability to stimulate feelings of desire, enjoyment and admiration. Bet you won't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:39 PM
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I don't simply not want other humans to suffer, I plan on prioritizing and valuing their well-being. Im not gonna go in circles with you. I'm not gonna repeat myself after this. I never said romance was juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:37 PM
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Sure. If they don't expect this, then you should have no problem telling them that they will not get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:32 PM
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Depends on who they actually value. Some donate to the poor. Some donate to abused women or children. They specifically value and prioritize those people because they probably have the most compassion on those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:30 PM
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If you believe no one expects unconditional "love" or expect to be your #1 priority regardless of how you feel, tell them that and let's see how far your relationship goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:27 PM
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I never said romance was juvenile. I said the idea that romance was love is juvenile. And yes, there are juvenile minded adults who believe romance is love. I already told you what love was. As to why I'd feel it for someone is a different question. I feel love for children born and unborn. I have a burning desire to protect them all if I could. I plan on helping as many as possible when I get the provisions. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. It's justice in my opinion to defend the innoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:25 PM
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Why do you think people say, "through thick and thin, for rich or poor, till death due us part". in their marriage vows? They don't say "till unhappiness do us part" now do they? When people hear "I love you", nany assume it's unconditional which is why they expect you to stick by their side if they became a paralyzed vegetable. They expect your "love" to drive you to stay and take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:18 PM
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The idea that romance is love is in fact juvenile. Romance is fine but it's not love. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:13 PM
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All you gotta know is what causes us to be fond of others. The answer is obvious.. when they stimulate joy, admiration or excitement. It will always come back down to what YOU get out of it. Get over it and stop fighting the truth. Don't bother responding. I'm pretty much done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:11 PM
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I've explained it multiple times. You're just looking for me to define it your way. You're intentionally chopping up my definition. Again, it's about prioritizing and valuing the best interest of others. If you do this, you are loving others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:06 PM
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I think people should make this distinction when their love is purely for romantic feelings, not the person. Saying "I love you" is not specific enough ans can mislead others to expect agape love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:03 PM
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No because those people are not simply helping out here and there but ensuring those people are getting what they need because they prioritize znd value thier well being. I'm not sure why you can't keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:28 PM
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Okay so what causes you to love someone? Your answer here will wrap this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:07 PM
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I know. That's expected when you've been programmed by Disney. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:01 PM
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If that's what you believe, why lie? Why claim your love for your "chick" doesn't depend on what you get from it? I wouldn't lie to her, my love for my chick is not contingent on what I get out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:54 PM
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Romantic desire, admiration and enjoyment is not the same as loving the person. You can be romantically very fond of someone without loving them. You desire, admire and enjoy them romantically. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:42 PM
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Yup. You've understood me this far. Don't play dumb now. You require stimulation (fondness) to "love" others. That means it is contingent on what you get out of it. You loss. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:36 PM
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I know your little juvenile brain cannot wrap your head around any concept of love you did not see in a Disney movie but it exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:34 PM
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I wouldn't lie to her, my love for my chick is not contingent on what I get out of it. Yes, my love for someone is contingent on me loving them, congratulations, you cracked the case... So you lied...once again. It does depend on what you get out of it. You HAVE to be fond of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:29 PM
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My definition of love is not simply helping others but prioritizing and valuing the best interest of others. They want to be the #1 priority. It's a false expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:24 PM
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It definitely is which is why they often feel betrayed when they find out their partner "loves" someone else. They also feel lied to when you do not put their feelings before your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:01 PM
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It most definitely is. Whether you agree or not, doesn't matter. Just let your partner know how fickle your "love" can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:54 PM
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Now let's not be dishonest. You made it clear earlier that it was contingent on fondness. That means it is contingent on what you get out of it. You messed up and thats okay. But you're not gonna take me in circles because you hate the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:52 PM
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Yes, I was referring to people who say they love strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:48 PM
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Why would you expect a stranger to love you? Did they say they loved you? Either way, it's clear we're talking about romantic relationships hence why we're on the PPD board.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:45 PM
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I'm gonna tell you why mines is better... Because mines represents what people expect when they hear "I love you". Juvenile ideas of love are misleading which is why people often feel betrayed when they find out their partner "loves" someone else. I don't really care which definition you go by as long as this is made clear to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:41 PM
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Hmm. This is still kinda questionable. Seems like you opted out because like you said, you felt lonely with her and because you didn't want to be a husband or father. Sounds pretty self-motivated to me. If this girl made you feel like a million bucks and you know you wouldn't find better but you know you do not genuinely want to be a father to her kid, would you opt out? Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:34 PM
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my love for my chick is not contingent on what I get out of it. Lol. So what is it contingent on? You were saying a completely different story earlier. So I guess I have? If you told her that, you wouldn't have to guess. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:21 PM
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I know compassion can be felt for someone you do not love. Did I say compassion WAS love? No. You can even deem someone valuable but not love them. You have to be also prioritizing someone's well being and best interest in order for it to be love. The emotion that drives someone to love is a strong desire to care and protect others. I don't care if you do not agree. If you wanna operate on Disney Princess ideas of love, knock yourself out. Just make sure your partner knows your "love" is conting…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:18 PM
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Sure I am buddy. Look, if your intentions are pure, I dare you to warn your partners that your "love" for them depends on thier ability to satisfy you. Betcha you won't. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:46 PM
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Due to my spiritual views, I don't think that's in the best interest of y'all but if you both agree to spare one another, I'd say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:41 PM
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So you'd be content dating a woman that looks good even if she could not sexually please you at all or stimulate you in other ways? Doubt it. Even if this was true, you prove that you value feelings, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:26 PM
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No, I'm just more honest than biased human beings, not smarter. I actually have experienced deep affection for people. I'm not gonna call it love though. That would be misleading. Never said compassion was love but it aids in love whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:22 PM
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No because you aren't prioritizing and valuing the well-being of those people. I also don't know what your motives are so I can't really pinpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:05 PM
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What world are you living in? Plenty of women fond and lust over men they find attractive in magazines often. All he is doing is looking good just like the women you lust after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:02 PM
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I just gave you two false expectations. Read. Like I said, you love the feelings they bring which is why you know you'd divorce your partner if those feelings vanished. That's not what most people expect which is why it's often see as betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:01 PM
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Loving some is actually prioritizing and valuing the well-being or best interest of something or someone. You don't even need to be in direct contact with someone to do this. A basic example of this would be not to leave your partner in the dust because they become incredibly sick, deformed and paralyzed and can no longer please you. You'd gladly stay by thier side and care for them when you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:58 PM
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Most people expect unconditional commitment and loyalty when they hear "I love you". They also think you mean they're the only person you will experience this desire, enjoyment and admiration with. You know that. Which is probably why you tell them you love them. You know it creates false expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:49 PM
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Does it matter? Point is, their idea of homosexuality was wrong. Their credentials mean nothing to me. It doesn't indicate intellectual integrity. They benefit from promoting juvenile concepts of love as well. Lol. It's hinged on the fact I can prioritize and act in the best interest of others without liking them. This is the love you people expect to get from your juvenile relationships. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:39 PM
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I never said you don't need it to be in a romantic relationship but if you don't need romance to love others. If you wouldn't love your partner without romance, then you do not love the person but the feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:34 PM
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My point exactly. Now if your wife understood that her worth depended on her ability to stimulate you, you think she would be as eager to marry you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:31 PM
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I already told you it is an act that's aided or driven by compassion and value. It comes from valuing the well being of another enough to prioritize them. That's what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:29 PM
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At some point psychologists said homosexuality was an illness. Referencing the biased perspective of corrupt humans isn't a great sales pitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:22 PM
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Yeah, you seem to be conflating romantic desire to love. Not the same. I'm also not saying you can love everyone equally. Some people will be prioritized over others if you're faced with an ultimatum. The reason why we must make the distinction between romantic desire, enjoyment and admiration vs love is because it can be misleading to tell someone you love them when really you are dedicated to a feeling, not a person. What happens when those romantic feelings die? ....exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:19 PM
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I think you misunderstood what I mean by ooey gooey. I'm referring to romantic desires, enjoyment and admiration. Remove those feelings then the truth will reveal itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:12 PM
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Youre still operating by your juvenile idea of love so this conversation is pointless at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:08 PM
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I could love them but I'm not getting into a romantic relationship with someone simply out of love. Romance requires desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:56 PM
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No, it's you who cannot read. I made myself clear. I do not care about your Disney princess ideas of love. You gotta get over it. It means they are human and that feelings change. It means nothing more than that. You're allowed to stop loving people and it doesn't invalidate the love that you felt at one time. You don't seem to understand feelings well. Yes, you can stop loving people. Never denied that. But if you stop loving people because you no longer enjoy them, that was never love. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:49 PM
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Simply being concerned or compassionate is not enough to love but can aid in loving others. Depends on what you mean by care though. Love is actually prioritizing and valuing the well being of others, not just sitting back and feeling sorry for others. And no one said you had to love people equally. Some people you may prioritize over others when faced with an ultimatum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:44 PM
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If I do everything in my power to prevent the unnecessary suffering of others, that's love. Compassion just drives it but it's still love to act on it. People can pity others without loving them. People pity starving kids in Africa but refuse to do everything in thier power to help. Again, you still think love is admiration, desire or enjoyment of another. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:40 PM
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Yes, he values the sexual stimulation she arouses. That's a feeling meaning he actually values the feelings, not the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:35 PM
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Love is an act of genuine compassion for others. It's not the lust, admiration or enjoyment you probably think love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:33 PM
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You seem to still be under the impression that I am talking about juvenile "love" which is desiring, admiring or enjoying something. I am not using the word love this way which is why you seem to be so confused. If you're gonna jump into another person's thread, please read in context. I made a distinction for a reason. I'd rather not respond to every little detail but I will agree you do not actually love the people in your life professionally or personally IF you are not prioritizing and valui…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:29 PM
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Men. We were talking about men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:55 PM
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Oh I thought you would be able to use context clues but the driving emotion behind love is genuine compassion. You don't need to like someone to have compassion on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:54 PM
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You're right. Romance depends on feelings of lust, admiration, excitement, etc. But you don't need romance to love someone is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:32 PM
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What a joke. Lust is literally how they make you feel. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:31 PM
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If I genuinely love them, I will make every effort to make sure they're healthy and have what they need. I would prioritize their well being even if we're no longer together. A non juvenile definition of love is actaully prioritizing and valuing the well-being or best interest of something or someone. You don't even need to be in direct contact with someone to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:29 PM
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Lol. Please tell me how men love others without mentioning their desire, enjoyment or admiration for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:26 PM
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For example, I despise selfish, manipulative breeders with a passion but if they were all in the concentration camp being gassed, starved and beaten today, I'd have a desire to go save them if I was capable. I'd help to nurse them all back to health out of love, not because I like them. I could even believe someone deserves to suffer this way but I would not condone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:24 PM
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You appear to still be under the impression that love is enjoyment or admiration of something. It's not. But what's left to be considered love if not the appreciation of a person's collection of qualities, attitudes, and interests? Please go talk to genuinely charitable people who show genuine love to complete strangers they may not have even seen or met before. It's very possible. There have to be reasons to love a particular person, or else they'd just be some guy on the street who you don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:19 PM
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Fondness is just another way of saying you like someone. Why do you like them? Because they make you feel good. Just accept the fact I'm right. You people always try to fight it. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:08 PM
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I prioritize and put my patients well being first at all times. There is 0 love there. According to you that is love and I must love them. No, honestly some of them I can't fucking stand to be in the same room with them for longer than 15 minutes. I said prioritizing AND valuing the well-being of someone. Sounds like you only make sure they are well enough to keep your job/reputation in tact, not because you actually care or value their best interest. Like I said, you can love an enemy or strang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:04 PM
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Remove the ooey gooey feelings and then analyze how important they'd be. Actaully prioritizing and valuing the well-being or best interest of something or someone is love. You don't even need to be in direct contact with someone to do this. You could know you'll never get access to them again and you will still want what's best for them and make sure they get it if they need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:47 PM
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Exactly! Affection. You value how they make you feel. Case closed. NEXT!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:43 PM
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Exactly. YOU enjoy the feelings of enjoyment and admiration he stimulates within you. It has nothing to do with you valuing and prioritizing his well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:35 PM
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Okay, so why do they hold a place in your heart and mind at that point? You're almost there. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:28 PM
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Yeah, no. I made it clear in my OP that I don't believe love has anything to do with how someone stimulates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:27 PM
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The act of prioritizing and valuing the safety and well-being of strangers is an act of love. Showing true compassion and doing everything you can to prevent suffering is an act of love. I didn't speak for you. I just made a prediction of what you likely thought love meant. Feel free to share your juvenile thoughts on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:25 PM
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What do you mean that you love them as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:20 PM
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I'm not 100% sure what you really mean but I don't see why you can't. I just don't think it's required to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:20 PM
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You can pursue juvenile ideas of "love" all you want. Just make sure your partner knows that their worth depends on their ability to stimulate you. It's that simple. Telling people you love them when you really "love" the feelings is misleading. What is your motivation behind trying to remove the "ooey gooey" feelings, point to the carcass of what's left and say "No, this is love"? What are you trying to justify here, because it's coming off as forced and unnecessary. I don't know what you're tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:17 PM
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A desire to love others would be emotional so I'm not completely removing emotion. I'm removing the ooey gooey feelings you think are required to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:46 PM
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You can't have love without compassion or a desire to prevent suffering. Love is valuing and prioritizing the well being or best interest of others. What you likely think love is would simply be great enjoyment or admiration. Making provisions or sacrifices to maintain that feeling is not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:43 PM
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You say it's obvious but I think the point completely went over your head. Maybe I'm mistaken. Why do you say you love your partner? If you can't give any reason without talking about the great feelings he stimulates within you, then you do not love your husband but the good feelings he can bring. Even with your newborn son. Can you tell us how you love him without referring to the joy he brings to your life? This is why I said there is a difference between loving people and "loving" the way the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:40 PM
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Okay, so it appears you're the one who is actually talking about being "in love" (which is another juvenile misuse of the word love.) Again, I do not believe love in any sense has anything to do with how someone stimulates us. That's just admiration or enjoyment. Making provisions and sacrifices to preserve those FEELINGS is not acts of love for the person. It's just an attempt to maintain your own joy/comfort. If the "value" you place on someone DEPENDS on their ability to stimulate you, you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:32 PM
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I do not believe in marriage so I wouldn't have a husband. I cannot guarantee that level of commitment so I would not make any vow to. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding your question but I would choose my partners based on who makes me feel the best so far and he would know that from the very beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:19 PM
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It's very juvenile.. Only valuing the feelings someone stimulates but not the person is the epitome of juvenile "love". What do you think actual love is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:15 PM
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Exactly. I addressed this in my post. I have "love" in quotations for a reason. You told me to give you an example of "love" that leads to false expectations. You get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:08 PM
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You don't have to accept flaws to love yourself. For example, someone who is extremely overweight would be loving themselves by trying to get thier health in order, not accepting the extra weight. If you loved a person, you would not just accept them being extremely overweight either, you'd encourage them to get healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:04 PM
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Sure. As long as that's made clear to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:00 PM
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I know the juvenile idea of love depends on how they make you feel. But you can in fact love people who do not stimulate great feelings within you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:53 PM
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There are some people who believe that if you "love" them, you shouldn't love anyone else that way. There are people who believe that if you say you "love" them, that you should unconditionally care for them and prioritize their feelings above your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:51 PM
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That doesn't contradict anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:48 PM
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Never said it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:47 PM
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If you're talking specifically about choosing romantic partners, sure. I agree. You should "love" how they can make you feel. But if your "love" DEPENDS on how they make you feel, then they should know this as soon as possible so that they will not have false expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:46 PM
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They aren't sending money and resources to ensure her safety or happiness but in exchange for sexual favors/stimulation. Without the transaction, she wouldn't get a dime. They don't love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:42 PM
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I disagree. People accept people with flaws everyday that they do not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:39 PM
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I disagree. People accept people with flaws everyday that they do not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:39 PM
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Go by whatever definition you want. Just let them know that you're operating on a juvenile idea of love when you tell them that so that they won't be mislead. There are people who love strangers everyday by sending money or resources to ensure their safety and happiness. That's love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:32 PM
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Actaully prioritizing and valuing the well-being or best interest of something or someone. You don't even need to be in direct contact with someone to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:30 PM
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Okay why do you think they take issue with that, lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:47 AM
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Issues like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:36 AM
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Why do you think they can't handle that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:23 AM
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That's a odd way to say you don't care about your well being or theirs but okay. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:54 AM
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Hopefully one day it will become common in dating. Helps weed out the parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:51 AM
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Keep telling yourself that. Will not change the fact you are afraid of rejection and that's why you hate this idea. I argued my point honestly. You are the only one resulting to insults, no rebuttal. You're literally projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:38 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:30 AM
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Its not trauma dumping if you've both agreed to share significant information to aid in your decision. It doesn't have to happen in the first 5 minutes. It can happen gradually over time during the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:29 AM
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No shit. Just here to prove a point. I know parasites would never disadvantage themselves like that and that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:25 AM
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If everyone has agreed to be authentic, idk why you would see that as "trauma dumping" or someone who wants a therapist. With that being said, you clearly do not like when people are "too" honest and bold. You can't say you like honesty and boldness but try to moderate it. It's best you know what you're getting yourself into before people form stronger attachments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:20 AM
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No, I do think everyone should start doing this asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:15 AM
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I thought they were pretty much the same thing. So if I just ask you to disclose every flaw, fear and concern you have, you'd do that? I don't see why people shouldn't disclose every flag, fear and concern they have while dating. It'll give you direct insight into someone's mental health. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:14 AM
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If we never "opine" on what people should do, we probably would've never gotten rid of slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:23 PM
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It literally can if everyone is authentic. But we both know truth isn't in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:20 PM
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Trust me, I expect the parasites to be weirded out. That's the goal. I prefer authentic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:18 PM
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Wow. I didn't even think of that. Cute but wrong. Now tell us why you really fear honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:14 PM
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First of all, if you are not even healed from trauma, or at least coping, I don't think you should be dating anyway. No one is forcing anyone to do this. You can walk away if you're not ready to be authentic with someone. ... but it's probably going to be a turn off for anyone on the receiving end of that interrogation, even if they are exactly who you are looking for. That's the point. It's best to weed out the people who cannot handle who you truly are sooner than later. Best to get rejected n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:07 PM
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Yes, you're delusional to think the worst than can happen is time lost. Go tell that to all the abused and people who are deleted by people they did not vet out. Imagine being so void of nuance that you think asking “tough, awkward questions” every first date is all that it takes to prevent yourself from getting hurt. Never said this. I was very clear that authenticity was the solution. Nice try tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:35 PM
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Hmm. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:16 PM
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I think it's safer to share on the first date. Best to know what you're getting yourself into before any more attachment is formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:15 PM
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Not baseless because I explained why the argument she agreed with was nonsense. Try harder. Plus, this was just a golden opportunity that couldn't be missed. Your insults aren't even good. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:12 PM
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Most people here are expressing fear of rejection. Nice try tho. We know that's what you people really fear. If you have secrets that can be used to extremely harm you, you shouldn't be dating anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:48 PM
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I actually explained why they were parasites which is why it's no longer ad hominem. You're just throwing around baseless insults. Typical behavior of those with no rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:45 PM
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You're not telling her about yourself if you're withholding significant information that may turn her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:41 PM
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If you fear rejection, just say that dude. No need to go around leaving pointless ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:39 PM
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I'm not just talking about men. It's not only men opposing this. Point is, people fear rejection the most which is why they love deception. If humans actually valued authenticity, our society would not function on lies. They often do not want to hear the truth about the people they like either. How is it burdensome?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:36 PM
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No one said you couldn't share your positive qualities as well.. But the whole point of this is to put you off. Your judgment is much more clear when it's not clouded by illusions or ideals of people. I highly doubt any of those flaws you mentioned are actual dealbreakers for you or else it would've already ended the marriage. So tell us what you're really afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:33 PM
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When you make a moral claim, it does in fact need to be justified if your goal is to convince me you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:28 PM
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They are directly opposing the idea that EVERYONE should be transparent. So this isn't a matter of risk anymore. If others are honest about what kind of person they are, then you'll know if they're trustworthy. They don't care about others being honest because a lot of people do not want their fantasies destroyed and fear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:26 PM
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It appears so. Many people in the comments seem to think lying will give them advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:17 PM
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This post is about whether or not everyone should be authentic. So do you agree that everyone should be authentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:10 PM
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Just because is not a reason. You just keep repeating that but not justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:01 PM
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If everyone is honest on the first, you'll have a pretty good idea if they are trustworthy. If you have secrets that can be used to do serious harm to you then you shouldn't be dating anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:00 PM
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Trust is earned over time and learning something about someone too early and minus context could possibly be damaging to how close you MIGHT have gotten to them. So you're more concerned about having access to use people than their boundaries? No one is saying you have to share. I think you should leave people alone if you can't be transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:51 PM
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We're not talking about other people, we're talking about you and the things you wanna hide from people. No one is getting fired for liking handcuff and gags. You have no reason to fear that. We know that's not what you're afraid of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:49 PM
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You literally said "just because".... You're not even convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:06 PM
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Very convincing. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:00 PM
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Yeah yeah yeah. Further indicators that you exaggerated the situation. Either way, my point still stands. Plenty of people do regret dating their crazy ex and this method could've saved them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:59 PM
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Your lack of intelligence and confidence is more than enough to make me feel superior. That being said, plenty of people do perform basic introspection hence why many live in shame and hide their deepest secrets. The excuses only come out when they get caught. I don't expect anyone to actually do this. I'm not that naive, This post is simply meant to help people realize their unrealistic expectations from humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:56 PM
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You don't have to share every detail of your life but you're hiding those dealbreakers because you're a manipulative parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:43 PM
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But bringing up flaws that deal with your past - your mommy issues, a hard breakup with your ex, the fact that you cheated once, the fact that you've been to prison? If that's a dealbreaker for your date it's your date's job to ask. So if they ask, you need to be transparent or leave them alone. That's the point of the post. People can make snap judgments when they hear something like that and it makes sense to show them how you've grown before they get the chance to make assumptions. A true ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:40 PM
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It is not "clouding their judgment" to let someone learn about you over time. I didn't say letting them learn about you over time was clouding their judgment. You want them to focus on what makes you "special" before you drop the truth bomb on them. Why? Because you know people are a lot more "forgiving" when they become attached to your attractive qualities. You are a manipulator and that's who my post is here to expose. Clearly you haven't read every comment. You've chosen to focus on my hosti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:27 PM
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I never said oversharing was normal. Didn't even say transparency was normal. I definitely felt no bond with those people over their secrets so I don't know what you're talking about. People find out the secrets of others everyday. It usually results in rejection unless that person can relate. They may sympathize with you but an entire trauma bond is rare. I wouldn't lie if asked, but some questions I'd decline to answer until we know each other better. Why? Why shouldn't they know what they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:15 PM
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Bizarre? Sure. Humans with integrity are a rare breed.. But how is it inhuman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:09 PM
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You're not explaining why they aren't obligated to tell me who they truly are if they wanna date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:07 PM
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You don't have to be tasteless or inarticulate to be authentic or transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:06 PM
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it's supposed to show the other person why you might make a good partner. However, if you tell them that after a date or two, before things get 'serious', but after they begin to see what makes you 'special', Just as I suspected. You wanna get them attached to some extent to cloud their judgment. and you explain to them why it happened and what you've been doing to change that aspect of your life, someone is likely to look at that differently. You can do this from the start. As to your second qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:04 PM
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The reason I said the first date is because it's best to cut ties asap when dealing with mentally unstable people. You don't want a stronger attachment to form over time. It would work in practice. People just don't want it to work which is why they won't practice this. I know it would disadvantage deceptive people. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:58 PM
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Oh God. Please, explain why you don't think we deserve to know who we're letting in our life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:53 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:52 PM
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Maybe you didn't need to know about their specific mental issues on the first date but many people do need to know about their dates mental status on the first date to avoid any further attachments being made and for everyone's health. Some people can get pretty weird after only one good date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:52 PM
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unexpected honesty This post is a call for everyone to be honest so if everyone is honest, it won't be unexpected. You can also warn them before the date begins. If they can't handle it, they can leave before it gets too deep for them. This person is a red flag anyway if they do not want authenticity. creating a picture prone to misunderstandings and forcing them to make a quick judgement of you based on limited superficial information. It's as simple as giving them the full picture. The excuses…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:47 PM
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u/Bird-brained* Makes more sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:41 PM
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Well said. I don't even need to talk to this guy. "Drip feeding" I assume is revealing your flaws to someone a little bit at a time. It's not true. Most people try to hide their true flaws until they get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:40 PM
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If you are afraid of rejection, just say that little guy. Trying to find hypocrisy in me will not invalidate anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:35 PM
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If you're that fucked up, you shouldn't be dating. It would benefit more than just narcs and self unaware people. Plenty of people would avoid crazy ex's, cheaters, potential murderers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:34 PM
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He may not like it, but if you're a valuable player, you should be fine. I doubt people are getting fired for liking handcuffs and ball gags in the bedroom. Sounds like paranoia to me. Don't see why a first date would think to use that against you anyway. Just sounds like excuses not to be authentic at this point. If you fear rejection, just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:31 PM
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I used to be in a group home, so yes, they were probably mentally unstable but not because they were honest. Point is, no bond was formed. Sorry, your point does not stand. I think misleading people and withholding significant information from them so that you can use them is unhealthy. Very predatory, parasitic behavior if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:27 PM
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Again, if they are authentic about their life, this works out. So if you GIVE context, you can extract the same response if it isn't a complete red flag. Can you give me an example of what you think needs "context" because it's just sounding like emotional manipulation to me so far. I've had tons of relationships? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:22 PM
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Yeah, we know people lie. Saying people lie doesn't invalidate the fact people should be 100% authentic on the first date. Again, if everyone is being authentic as my post suggest, it would make sense why they brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:17 PM
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If they were transparent about their mental status on the first date, you could've avoided that, don't you think? What do you have to lose by being authentic? So far, it appears you stand to gain from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:14 PM
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Nothing. You cannot trust everyone with your information. I get it. This system will not benefit those who want to mislead people about their character. I do not care about these people if I'm honest. If you have secrets that will cause employers to question your character and integrity on the job, you do not deserve that job anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:12 PM
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They were crazy if your life wasn't significantly impacted by their actions. You're clearly exaggerating but I digress. I don't expect parasites to agree with this approach. If you have nothing horrible to hide, then it won't be a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:05 PM
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Why do you equate authenticity with leaving your car unlocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:59 PM
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What do you mean "grow to appreciate your flaws"? You mean they tolerate them because they have already become emotionally dependent? If your flaws aren't complete red flags, you have nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:58 PM
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You seem to be living in lala land. Maybe you don't have much experience with dating crazy people but many people do. Maybe you are that crazy, parasitic ex. Just go look up the stories. Doesn't make sense to just wait and see when you can get all the information you need on the first date. Forming unnecessary attachments over time can be dangerous for both parties. At worst, all that’s lost is time Delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:55 PM
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I'm sure many victims underestimated their killer as well. But that's just the most extreme possibility. Not knowing what you're getting yourself into could cause many problems in your life and thiers. Ask all the people with the crazy ex's then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:51 PM
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Sore loser tactic. Trying to find hypocrisy STILL wouldn't invalidate my argument. I don't expect parasites to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:45 PM
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Or you could just learn about them by getting to know them the old fashioned way. Spending time together, watching how they interact with their world and the living creatures in it, and just generally seeing if you like their company. That just gives room for a stronger emotional attachment to form that could've been avoided in the first place. This just defeats the purpose of transparency on the first date. Treat it like a job interview and they will naturally just give you the answer they thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:42 PM
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Yup. Now what? 😊 Thought you had a gotcha moment, didn't ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:35 PM
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If yall have agreed to be authentic with one another then that would explain why she told you... Are you saying you have prejudices against women with that particular kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:34 PM
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Actively withholding information you know will lead to rejection is an attempt to manipulate. You want them to accept illusions so that you'll have access to them. It's very parasitic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:32 PM
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It's very serious. You know how dangerous it can be to let a mentally unstable person in your life? Best to know sooner than later before they get attached. If they get attached, it can cost you your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:29 PM
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Why would you be put off? Who cares if it weird? It's best to know what you're getting yourself into.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:26 PM
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Trust is often built through authenticity. Yall wouldn't know anything about that though. Yall like fake "trust" that's based on illusions. The whole point of this is to scare off potential partners. If they can't handle who you truly are, better safe to end it sooner than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:25 PM
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No one is saying you're obligated to. Like I said, if you can't be transparent, YOU can leave. People have the right to know who they are dating for everyone's safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:23 PM
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bound to scare off even people who would otherwise be totally compatible with you. That means they aren't compatible with the real you, they are compatible with the illusion you've sold them. it isn't gonna kill you to waste a week or so talking to someone who turns out to be incompatible. This isn't just about wasting time but avoiding unnecessary attachments and tearing down false expectations. Refusing to investigate on the first date could potentially cost you your safety/life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:21 PM
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No, it's clear you do which is why you wanna keep people in the dark in fear of rejection. They can leave if they want to. I'm not making them do anything against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:18 PM
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You don’t pick up on tongue-in-cheek, eh? No, it appears you don't. You play dumb, I play dumb too. You can easily get to know their postive attributes along with their flaws. It's not rocket science. Sounds like you just wanna be sold a dream. It's best you analyze the mental health status of people before forming attachments for everyone's safety. But if you don't value your safety and the mental health of others, this all makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:15 PM
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I literally said I'd share. Lol. I'm just doing it my way to prove a point. I think you get it. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:06 PM
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Plenty of people have shared their deepest secrets with me and there was no trauma bond. Lol. With that being said, allowing them to get emotionally invested without investigating their mental state is dangerous. Best to cut ties as soon as possible (politely of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:05 PM
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Right after you explain why I am wrong, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:02 PM
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I just have you 2 examples of why authenticity is essential for hookups as well. Do not take me in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:01 PM
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That's the point. I wanna weed out the nutjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:59 PM
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It's should also be about warning others of what they're getting themselves into. You know...safety measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:59 PM
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Not true. Even if it was, it's time for them to snap out of it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:57 PM
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Horrible approach. The delivery would be the problem here, not the authenticity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:56 PM
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It shows a lack of social awareness. You come off as mentally ill if you list your worst attributes on a first date. It will only alarm people who believe in deception and misleading people. This will help them weed out the parasites. People with integrity will respect it. People will believe there is something even worse you are hiding. If your best foot forward includes talking about your debt, what could you be hiding? Yeah, of the worst thing you confess is debt, I'd be alarmed too. That's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:54 PM
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You share what you're comfortable with. Tell them the things you know will end in rejection. Dare ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:51 PM
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For the most part, people know their weaknesses pretty well which is why they live in shame and try to hide it. They can share what they are aware of, even the things they suppress about themselves. But I don't think there are tons of people out here completely unaware of their flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:49 PM
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No, THIS is a bad idea. The delivery is just off. Very unnatural. If you're scared of rejection, just say that. We know you can't handle being alone and that's exactly why that woman does not respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:47 PM
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The only reason people care about ncount is because they believe it can indicate how they may be treated down the line. I don't think it's the amount that alarms them but the mentality of someone with that many bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:45 PM
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Again, I do not care what corrupt humans consider weird behavior. If someone would reject you for simply being authentic (for both their safety and yours), then they are probably someone you should not trust anyway. They probably believe in misleading people and do not care about their safety enough to require authenticity. Red flag, Plus, if we all agree this is necessary then it will become standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:42 PM
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I think humans are very aware of their flaws which is why they go out of their way to hide it. 😇 And if they are ignorant that it's a flaw, that's even better. They're more likely to admit it if there is no shame attached. With that being said, you don't need perfect knowledge of your flaws. They can confess the weaknesses and flaws they ARE aware of and this will help tremendously. It will be more than enough. A lot of people will avoid wasting their time. May even save their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:38 PM
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You don't have to list your features randomly. People with social skills know how to articulate themselves well and know how to keep a conversation flowing. With that being said, WHO CARES? Awkward or not, it needs to be done. It's gonna be more awkward to find this shit out down the road when people are emotionally invested and you wanna break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:32 PM
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Most individuals on a first meeting will not be able to tolerate that level of depth and vulnerability without being alarmed. That's the point. If someone's authentic self alarms you, you should run. Lol. even if it’s not negative stuff… Who would run away from hearing about attributes they actually think is postive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:27 PM
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I don't care how this corrupt world works, my point still stands. The world doesn't improve without discussions on what SHOULD be done. There needs to be a wider discussion about human dishonesty and transparency so that people can stop playing dumb and pretending like it's okay to just trust each other. Time to break down the illusions. I know that makes your kind uncomfortable but time to suck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:19 PM
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Doesn't matter. You're an anomaly. Point is, if you're trustworthy, then you have nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:12 PM
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I know it's weird. I don't care what's considered normal obviously. It's normal to lie and mislead people. Does that make it okay? We need weird behavior because obviously, the normal way isn't working out too well. Again, trust can be built through authenticity. It's best I know that "heavier introspection" for my own safety and health. This post isn't about what I do but what SHOULD be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:11 PM
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I'm fully aware which is why I recommend transparency. I'm tired of you people whining about women not telling you their "ncount" and I'm tired of yall pretending to be trustworthy people. Clearly, you are not and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:06 PM
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The whole purpose of doing this is to be off putting. People need to know what they're getting themselves into. Did you read the post or just the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:05 PM
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If you cannot handle rejection, just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:00 PM
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Even employers do background checks. Some even ask about your weaknesses.. Only a moron wouldn't investigate what kind of person they're allowing in thier life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:58 PM
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No, it wouldn't. Google ad hominem fallacy. Nothing about my post is gender specific so what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:57 PM
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This is a woman's point of view. Go talk to the millions of men who want women to be transparent about how many sexual partners they've had then get back to me. No one cares if you starve a parasite. Go pay for a willing host.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:52 PM
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We're all entitled to know what kinda person we're dealing with, especially sociopaths that demonize honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:47 PM
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You can still highlight your strengths and positive attributes while being honest about your flaws. You can't say "be honest" then make excuses not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:46 PM
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You don't have to spill the entire life story just the relevant things like your weaknesses, insecurities and attachments, etc. If they ask you to share that, you should or just leave them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:45 PM
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Nope. Now what? 😊 Even if I did, hypocrisy wouldn't invalidate anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:43 PM
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"Tell me you can't handle rejection without telling me you can't handle rejection..."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:43 PM
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If you can't handle rejection, just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:38 PM
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People will dump you immediately. That's EXACTLY why you should confess those things. You give the other person the opportunity to move on before they get invested and you potentially save yourself from getting invested in someone who will dump you if they find out. It’s not in your best interest to tell me about your credit card debt on the first date and you won’t, because I would leave. That is in my best interest. I don't want someone who is that focused on my finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:37 PM
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What do you suggest to prevent that? Authenticity. That's literally the entire point of the post. Do you see now why we need authenticity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:34 PM
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You know how many people have gained obsessive stalkers from hook ups? Or have even gotten pregnant from a hook up and ended up with a deadbeat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:27 PM
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Definitely not, that’s bad dating advice How is this bad dating advice? How is it bad overall to give others the option to reject the real you before anyone gets invested or hurt? Unfortunately, this means it’s impossible for everyone to be fully transparent upfront. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:25 PM
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It doesn't matter how many women want casual sex. Point is, they exist and you should focus on them instead. It was pretty clear and cut. And no, all of them do not exclusively fuck hot guys. You are probably just focused on particular women who are out of your league. Either way, you still have the option to pay for casual sex. Anyone who still believes opinions have anything to do with age has no business talking down on anyone. You are a prime example that wisdom doesn't come from aging. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:18 PM
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Pretty much spot on. I will disagree that the only thing they care about is looks though. I think they care more about your ability to please them in bed than how you look. You can look like Chris Evans but if all you bring to the bedroom is 2 inches and you can't even orally satisfy them, they won't give a damn about how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:08 PM
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There are women who are into casual sex. Focus on them instead or go pay for a good time. Trying to take advantage of someone looking for a real bond is evil and you should move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:04 PM
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It’s in my personal interest to hide my flaws, but if we all confessed our flaws, we would all be generally better off. Exactly. This sounds like you agree we should all be authentic because it's in the best interest of everyone. Basically, if I hide my flaws and you are transparent the expected value is big for me and small for you. Of course. This is why I think everyone should require transparency and should investigate their partner. Someone who doesn't acknowledge anything about themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:01 PM
2

It's not great for people looking to use and mislead others but for people looking for a real bond, it would be great. You shouldn't want someone who does not want the real you. That's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:58 PM
8

You're proving exactly why we should be transparent. People who are only interested in their pleasure are the least trustworthy/loyal people on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:55 PM
1

Since when did these become buzzwords? Even if I am, who cares? You get the point. Feel free to refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:49 PM
-1

Trust is earned through authenticity. If both people are transparent, that's trust earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:47 PM
2

That's the point. No point in wasting that person's time and potentially getting them emotionally invested just to leave them when you find out the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:46 PM
1

If it gets appealed, that would only smother my post and leave it at the bottom of the feed, right? Can I just make a new post after?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:14 PM
1

A lot of people are online shaming and demonizing people for not thinking highly of them so I felt it was a reminder that should be put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:00 PM
1

Depending on who you want acceptance from, I'm sure you do care what they think of you. You should care what someone thinks of you if you're pursuing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:57 PM
1

A lot of people care what others think of them which is why they try to shame people for not liking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:56 PM
1

How is this incl content? Quite the opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:55 PM
1

They get to decide your worth to them. They can easily make assessments to determine whether you're worth their time or not. You can think highly of yourself but you can't force others to see you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:54 PM
6

It is obvious. They just don't care because they're driven by lust just like he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:27 AM
1

Everyone is socialized to believe that “being chosen” is special. Really, it isn’t — only if you’re mutually choosing each other. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:05 PM
1

Moat people aren't going out of their way to appease people they don't like at all unless they are seeking resources or have incredibly low self-esteem. Not seeing how this lesson would bring much value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:51 PM
0

I would consider rejection a basic essential that should've been at the top of the list but I'm glad you went over it with your oldest. Hopefully more parents have that discussion before the damage is already done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:47 PM
0

So not a single lesson on rejection? I see this is where many fail their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:38 PM
1

She was a Plain Jane by your standards. To other men with different tastes, she might have been the Bee's Knees. This Adonis Fellow might have thought her gorgeous. Despite being a model, he's still a person. Maybe she saw him for him, treated him really well, and they really hit it off. You don't know. All you have to go on is this weird comparison of appearances. This sounds cute and all but chances are, Adonis knows she's a plain jane (physically) as well. Just to be clear, he could very well…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 11:46 AM
1

Who said I didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 09:25 PM
-1

You did everything except answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:17 PM
1

Why do you care to bring them back to reality? What do you gain from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:22 PM
1

Why do you care specifically about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:19 PM
2

Why is it fascinating? Why is it fun? Why do you care about their perspective? What do you gain from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:13 PM
2

Why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:12 PM
1

Everyone seems to comprehend the question just fine. And not everybody pays attention to the feed so not everyone knows how frequent this question is posted.. Tell us why you really mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:11 PM
1

Shining a light on something that's hidden or not known by the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:00 PM
1

Any discussion exposing the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:57 PM
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I think when they're properly enlightened and shown why they shouldn't do something, they're more likely to listen. Much better than feeding them to the wolves with no warning, don't you think? Can't hurt to educate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:05 PM
-1

But the question is, would you admit it if they were right about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:53 PM
-2

Why does it depend on who they are if they're right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:46 PM
0

Even if the added text confused you a bit, the title is pretty clear and cut. Would you admit it if a woman was right? If she explained to you how "men" are in fact problematic, would you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:43 PM
2

Kind of unrelated but i think men’s biggest mistake, which was sort of inevitable, was creating a world that’s so safe and consistent and seemingly autonomous that women can even utter the phrase (and believe it) “I don’t need a man.” The fact you see this as a mistake is exactly why feminist exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:45 PM
1

So you think actual good men can be "turned into bad men" by bad women? Lol. Humor me...how would that process work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:51 PM
1

If by softer, you mean gay men...sure. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:12 PM
2

Of course not! I'm a man. If you're trying to catch a man, you shouldn't ask a man. It's like asking a fish how to catch fish. Yep. That's what I thought. I also recommend you go check out the anonymous "I regret having kids" groups. Newsflash: Most women aren't gonna publicly tell you they want the single life back and that they hate being a mom. Most only settle down because their self-esteem and SMV depleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:17 PM
1

How do you befriend people? Walk up to them and ask what their "fave colorz are?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:25 PM
0

I think it's better how I put it. If a man is nice to you when he is trying to sleep to you or anyone else, but once it has become obvious that sex will not happen, he starts with name calling or other bad behavior, that's who he really is. I agree but I worded it that way for a reason. How he treats women he sees as "unattractive" also says a lot about thier character. The problem with the honeymoon phase is in the name itself. We (as in both genders) are pumped full of hormones that make us ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:22 PM
2

Very unhelpful but thanks for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:05 PM
1

How would you go about getting to know who they truly are? Asking thier favorite color? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:04 PM
1

I agree. What kind of questions should we ask to test his integrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:02 PM
8

Did everything but answer the question..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:01 PM
3

Lol. I'll check it out. Hope it's not outdated clichés. Assholes are smarter these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:01 PM
10

Well said. Best answer so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:59 PM
1

Also, yes, you should always judge men by how they treat women who will NOT be having sex with them. I think you misinterpreted my question. I said women who they do not find attractive. Lol. they think with their genitals/hearts and ignore some red flags that become obvious in hindsight. If they are ignoring something, it's already obvious to them. But yes, you can't help people who want to ignore red flags. This post is for the naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:45 PM
2

What's unrealistic about telling women what to look for? You can simply describe what you would look for when you judge men. It's best if we strive to make women as competent as possible, wouldn't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:38 PM
3

Why when you can just teach us how to do it ourselves? Wouldn't you like women to be smart and independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:27 PM
17

What are some "fuckboy" traits that they won't be able to hide in the honeymoon stage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:24 PM
0

Okay, go ahead and answer the rest of the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:20 PM
1

So I'm guessing you don't know the difference between most people and everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:00 AM
1

Feel free to explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:49 AM
0

I'm not literally accusing you of projection. I'm trying to show you that baseless accusations like this aren't rebuttals. They are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:37 AM
1

You have to be a good enough person for someone to be loyal to and also not choose someone that lacks it. This is exactly why it's rare. People aren’t loyal to their own pleasure all the time. A lot of people have discipline. People only discipline themselves if they believe it will help them avoid pain/discomfort. That's still an act of loyalty to your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:35 AM
0

Sounds like you're projecting. You see how that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:32 AM
1

People typically aren't in wonderful solid relationships when they choose to leave their spouse for someone else. Arguments, money problems, dead bedrooms, there are problems within the relationship which had you ever actually been in one you might grasp that. It's not a matter of choosing a better deal or even being disloyal. You don't even realize how you've contradicted yourself and validated my entire argument. 😒 What do you think disloyalty is? What do you think choosing a better deal is? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:41 PM
0

Why would I want to give up everything I’ve built with my partner for a random person? In hopes of building something better with someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:30 PM
1

At this point, you seem to be "blue-pilled". I get it. You want the fairytale. It's not just my assessment. Lol. The divorce rates alone prove me right. People wouldn't be online preaching about disloyalty everyday if most people were in committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:28 PM
5

What do you mean "reduced them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:23 PM
1

Lol. I think you missed the point. My point is, most of these people aren't in committed relationships at all. They are in conditional relationships. Anyone with a brain can see humans fold under temptation everyday. Years of marriage can go right down the drain when temptation arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:20 PM
0

And in what way are they being gaslighted that's preventing them from walking out of the door when they become uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:18 PM
1

Again, why do you think I need to be in a traditional relationship to understand loyalty and that most humans are fickle?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:16 PM
1

That's a little extreme. Not at all. Loyalty is Loyalty. The point of loyalty is that it's not based on "convenience". Unless they are a threat to your safety, you shouldn't be tapping out if you're loyal. If your partner is gone, there is clearly no longer anyone to be loyal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:15 PM
1

Yes, I was in in relationship with them. Not sure why you couldn't infer that when I said the rest were flings. Casual dating is a relationship. We definitely weren't long term if that's what you're asking me. I don't make commitments I'm not absolutely sure I can keep. You care about my opinion so you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:09 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:58 PM
0

What are these mind games that are stopping so many people from leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:57 PM
0

Cared as in they were the only person I was impressed with romantically out of everyone I was involved with. The rest were pretty much just flings. I guess you can say I'm inexperienced with loving a romantic partner but that doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:55 PM
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There are. Realistically it took like two words. Nah, realistically you need to rephrase everything after the word dreams. It sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. I've only cared about 1 person romantically but I won't go as far as saying I loved them by my definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:49 PM
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No, I'm calling anyone who refuses to acknowledge how promiscuity can negatively impact men biased, hypocritical freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:45 PM
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I see no edits. I'll respond to your questions once I get an understanding of what you're asking. I'm saying it's not about me because I wasn't referring to my personal relationships but the relationships of others.. If by personal experience you mean my personal relationships, you are wrong. Your opinions can also be influenced by the experiences of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:35 PM
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This post isn't about me, it's about most humans (not all). First you would have to clarify what you mean by love. I don't think most humans genuinely love others.. And i'm not talking about juvenile ideas of love such as dependency, strong desire or admiration. When you're in love with someone you share many years of history with your hopes and dreams feature, hell star your beloved. This sentence stopped making sense after the word dreams. What do you mean by *years of history WITH your hopes …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:23 PM
1

Yeah, my post isn't about being able to simply sleep with a good looking person. My post is about thier ability to obtain a committed relationship w/ someone who is better overall. So if given the opportunity, do you think a lot of women will take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:59 PM
0

Are you implying that you don't think it's accurate for a lot of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:52 PM
1

Let's say you find this dream girl that meets all your standards listed here. Let's say she gets into a horrible accident 1 year later that completely ruins her appearance, leaves her infertile and in a paralyzed state. You never even got a chance to have kids. Where would your loyalty stand then if someone better comes along?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:50 PM
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Right but many people make false promises to get what they want everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:32 PM
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Yeah, I know it's not just about cheating. That's why I gave the example of a more attractive person offering you a committed relationship. I said most people are gonna bite. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant that they will leave. I appreciate the honesty. A lot of people are afraid to admit that they may be a fickle human.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:31 PM
1

Yet you still haven't addressed the initial argument. Even if you heard it from the horses mouth, I suspect you'd still make excuses for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:24 AM
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The part you chose not to acknowledge. and fear that no one else will "love" them. I think you're trying to deny agency because you don't want them to be held accountable for willfully enabling abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:54 AM
1

Yes, completely ignore the part of the argument that triggers you. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:39 AM
-1

You went to get help because most people will excuse your behavior but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:45 AM
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Because obviously their criticism of themselves isn't enough to discourage poor decision making. It's often fear of public criticism and shame that discourages poor choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:42 AM
-1

You're blatantly denying the people who do stay for this very reason even though psychologists admit they stay due to low self esteem and fear they won't find anyone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:41 AM
-1

Since when did it take perfect clarity to leave someone? Ever heard of fight or flight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:39 AM
0

Yeah, I wasn't talking to you. I'm referring to the people who think we shouldn't call people like you out at all. They think having empathy means you don't criticize people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:38 AM
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Some do not leave in fear that they're life will be at risk but for the most part, you're spot on. Many people will defensively deny this because they're ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:03 AM
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You're denying this because you know it's shameful. Even psychologists and domestic violence advocates admit that many stay due to low self-esteem and fear that no one else will "love" them. I know it's embarrassing but don't deny reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:59 AM
-1

Having empathy doesn't mean you excuse people for their poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:49 AM
2

Please say it louder for the sexists in the back! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:08 AM
1

Im not triggered by critics. I am triggered by biased, hypocritical freaks. They are the plague of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:57 PM
2

Okay I thought you were using hypergamy synonymously with trying to upgrade since that's what my argument was about. Even if we go by this concept of hypergamy, millions of men focus on and try to pursue women who are put of thier league in many ways as well. If given the opportunity, they would probably dump who they're with for someone superior to themselves, especially if they believe she really wants to be with them. Do you think promiscuity can also damage men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:50 AM
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and have incentive to vilify demographics that personally cause them grief. Yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:49 AM
1

You'll get your answers after you answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:53 AM
1

Yes promiscuity damages both sexes Should've just left it there. This is more than enough reason to acknowledge how it impacts men as well. Doesn't matter who is effected more. It's not a contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:52 AM
1

Question is, are you calling the men out who act and think just like the women you are calling out? Such as promiscuous men or men who try to date up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:53 PM
1

I don't care who you criticize more. I'm addressing those who don't call the opposite sex out at all for the same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:35 PM
2

Many people would disagree. You know exactly what I'm talking about. They think these behaviors are toxic within women so they should be also calling men out for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:33 PM
2

This is no true. I've seen women get trampled on many times in those subreddits. It just has to be justified and it can't be an unjust attack on all "women".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:16 PM
2

No one said disproves the tendency. The post is simply telling you call out the same toxic behaviors/mentality within both sexes if the behavior is what you take issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:13 PM
2

If you don't see any hypocritical nonsense coming from groups of women online then I'm just gonna assume you've filtered them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:05 PM
1

Maybe they do it so often because there are no women validating what they're saying about toxic women. If we all agreed on some things then maybe they wouldn't repeat the same things over and over again. When you're silent about the toxic women, that could be taken as support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:00 PM
1

The question is literally why do you only attack one sex and you said you're guilty of that... I said equally as toxic for a reason. So do you attack them for the same behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:34 PM
2

But how do you even prove that men are try to date up sexually? Yeah, it seems like you aren't interested in truth if you're gonna blatantly deny reality. Answer me this and I will then decide if you're worth continuing a conversation with.. Would most men leave their girlfriend for their dream girl if she genuinely wanted to be with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:32 PM
1

They do analyze both genders though...They just refuse to call them out for certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:29 PM
6

Question is, are you attacking equally toxic females as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:27 PM
1

Easier than what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:25 PM
3

But if your issue is with dumb shit, why not attack all the dummies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:25 PM
2

Are you saying they're on the side of toxic men/women? And I personally do not think most people here feel justified, they just want thier way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:23 PM
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I didn't ask you to explain why people go off on women for it. I didn't ask you who is riskier. I simply asked why do people refuse to acknowledge the same toxicity in the opposite sex. You admit you would warn your female friends. Cool. You should warn all women if you are going hard to warn all men. Trying to find hypocrisy in me will not invalidate anything I've said but if you must know, I'm a very balanced person. I'm not a biased freak like a lot of so called "Red-pillers" and "feminist". …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:17 PM
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So when we talk about rape, the focus is mainly on rapes by men. It's one thing to focus on males who sexually assault and another thing to completely ignore female perps. This doesn't explain why yall completely ignore the behavior within the opposite sex. Regarding dating up, men are more willing to date women with less education than themselves and women with less income. Most men do not measure a woman's value based on education, income, strength and shortness so this doesn't even factor in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:01 PM
5

What makes you believe this? You've never heard of men leaving/cheating on their girlfriends with someone they think is better? Are you trying to say only women are promiscuous or are you saying promiscuity can only damage women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:55 PM
2

Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:50 PM
5

I don't think you understood the question. I'm asking are you applying this to the women who do this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:50 PM
3

Are you saying it's only inexperience pertaining to the men that do this? Or women who do this as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:46 PM
3

Yeah, calling something a study done by high IQ individuals doesn't mean it's true. IQ definitely doesn't measure intellectual integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:44 PM
0

Point is, it can impact the men as well. You acknowledge this so what's the point of adding on all this extra information?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:37 PM
6

Makes sense. But that still doesn't explain the whole "female logic" "female nature" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:27 PM
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Statistically speaking females that engage in promiscuity have far more mental and emotional problems. Yeah, even if this were in fact true, this still doesn't invalidate the fact that it can damage men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:25 PM
0

Well by definition, if you reject the RP, you're ignoring harsh realities. Your connotations of these terms don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:24 PM
9

Why are you telling me this? How does this invalidate the fact promiscuity can also mentally and emotionally damage them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:06 PM
-1

Are you asking why this question is tagged question for bluepillers? No better option to choose. Plus, I thought BP were people who choose to ignore harsh realities. I think that's quite fitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:05 PM
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This would be more believable if it were consistent. Most men do not mind when women are cowards, especially for them. In fact, many of them think women should fear and "respect" a man's authority whether he's right or wrong. Women who challenged sexism were seen as problematic even till this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:21 PM
1

Do you mean overall? Yes, overall. Despite their flaws, you're still content. Dumping your original spouse/lover for an “upgrade” after you get more successful. Ah okay. I don't see an issue with this as long as you're honest about your disloyalty. That's where the issue comes in. People won't be honest about how fickle they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:21 AM
1

Most people are humble enough to act accordingly because they still want to find a partner. That would just scare people off if they acted that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:09 AM
1

Everyone settles because no one‘s gonna get that perfect lover. Well just because your partner isn't perfect doesn't mean you settled. Settling implies you're getting something less than satisfactory. The issue comes in when idiots want to pull up Jeff Bezos. Have no clue what this means. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 09:08 AM
1

u/Opening_Pattern_301 Said it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:45 AM
1

That's what they all say buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:12 PM
-1

That tells me all I need to know... Read before you respond next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:10 PM
0

What are you even asking? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:07 PM
1

You're the one who brought up perfect couples... Most of the time, people are pointing out legitimate red flags. There is no such thing as an "in between" red flag. Stop trying to take me in circles. The truth is out.. the jig is up. Your peers have exposed it. Get over it. No healthy couple is anxious about the other person hurting them. I don't know what toxic situations you've normalized but healthy couples don't do that. Either way, I'm done here. You're clearly more interested in smothering…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:04 PM
1

At this point you're just being dishonest. Everything is not considered a red flag. And are you seriously suggesting that they're only talking about meaningless "red flags" when they say this? Nice try, but no. No perfect couple experiences anxiety in thier relationship. Seems like you have a skewed perception of red flags and a perfect couple. You are too confused to be having this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:39 PM
2

You obviously didn't read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:36 PM
1

You keep saying that but the evidence says otherwise. Most people know which is why it's becoming trendy to jokingly admit you ignore red flags. It also explains the anxiety, jealousy and controlling behavior of most people in relationships. They know they aren't with good people. No one is anxious with people they believe are genuinely good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:17 PM
1

That may be true. But I don't see this behavior typically coming from people in satisfactory relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:02 PM
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I see you have trouble keeping up with the discussion. Clearly I'm saying he will likely ghost you. A guy that ghost you is least likely to delete you. But a guy that's hard to get rid of is more likely to delete you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:00 PM
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You get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:53 PM
0

It's not based on feelings. Like I said, Heartbreakers typically don't care. People constantly complain about them not caring and ghosting them. They're generally not interested in you enough to kill ya. Now stop trying to find an excuse to prey on suckers. It's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:07 PM
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Still useful. It's a gamble but you'll have a far better chance surviving the Heartbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:03 PM
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nope. former one is the guy that raped me. don't ask me how it makes sense, ask him. Keyword: Generally. I'm not saying he's always the safest. but it has not been proven that other men aren't just as dangerous. It's typically not the heartbreakers deleting women from what I've seen. They typically have better things to do. They don't care enough to take us out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:30 PM
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"If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with" Is what you're thinking of. No, I meant what I said. There are people literally telling us to just settle with the person that will worship us. so I can't really hang with someone I'm not attracted to just cause they like me. Yeah, well plenty of people are doing this just for security. Sure, more women may be guilty of doing so but the men aren't too far behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:28 PM
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I don't know what you mean by "come to peace" with compromising because a lot of them seem disgruntled to me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:25 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:23 PM
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If someone goes to their grave searching for someone "they want", are their standards too high, or is everyone else simply too low quality for them? Everyone else is too low quality for them. If they literally cannot satisfy you, that means they're not enough for you. People cannot control their standards and what they need to be content. Inflated standards are still standards. If you don't do it for them, you just don't do it for them. They aren't being stubborn or spiteful. They're just not fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:20 PM
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its a choice between men who want to prey on you and men who want to prey on you. For the most part, sure. This comes down to who is more dangerous. The jerk that doesn't offer anything except sex and a broken heart is generally less dangerous than the desperate guy that tries his hardest to win your heart. Most people are just not humble enough to date that guy. You may think you're safer with him because he makes you feel better about yourself but it's proven to be false many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:13 PM
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Sure. But people who try hard to win you over (especially those who try to buy "love") are typically more desperate and may snap when you decide to snatch their "happiness" away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:03 PM
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and i might have to give more in the relationship than I recieve but at least ill be appreicated and loved by this person" Because we all know being loved and appreciated is not enough for humans. Most humans are not wired to give more than they receive. They begin to feel drained and annoyed.. This often leads to disloyalty and hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:51 PM
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I personally cannot stand people who play the victim so I'm on a mission to expose all of them. Literally, nobody is safe. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:50 PM
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Did what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:44 PM
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Sounds like a good argument for staying away from insecure rejects. Guys who pursue you hard and immediately offer dinner dates could also be predatory. From what I've seen, they often cannot handle rejection, especially after you've been intimate. Don't go preying on suckers. May not end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:44 PM
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I'm talking about real red flags. I never heard anyone say simply being protective or caring about your appearance are red flags. I have heard them say being overprotective and vain are red flags if that's what you meant to say. You're not likely to be anxious around someone who might be mean in the future, but isn't now. Sure but most people pick up on whether or not someone is the mean type whether they're being nice in the moment or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:38 PM
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Ahhh there it is, you want women to be shamed for making mistakes... I thought we were talking about the assholes the entire time. I'm saying assholes do not face social repercussions for their behavior. I misinterpreted your initial argument. My post isn't about women who learn from their mistakes. My post is about women who knowingly go for jerks expecting special treatment. And no, assholes are not good at hiding the fact they aren't good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:09 PM
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Exhibit A When they can no longer deny the truth, they have to guilt trip you into understanding and ultimately overlooking their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:40 PM
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otherwise the vast majority of women are stuck dating bad boys forever, which they are not. What do you mean? Of course they aren't stuck. They were never stuck. I'm confused as to what you're implying here. And what do you mean by "social repercussions"? I'm saying they aren't being significantly rejected or shunned by people they like for their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:37 PM
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Who said they enjoyed making these sacrifices? If you're gonna argue, try to stick to my argument. You're only upsetting yourself by making up these imaginary arguments. I think you're just desperately looking for a scapegoat because you can't believe a woman would sacrifice her family and dreams for her pleasure. It may be hard to see women as human but it's time for you to deprogram with harsh truth. Humans make sacrifices for thier pleasure everyday. It's nothing new. In their mind, their lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:27 PM
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Reality...I'm on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:21 PM
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Well there are a ton of rappers who brag about murdering multiple people. Very popular amongst the ladies in that community. Rapper, Rick Ross, talked about drugging women and having sex with them without consent. Still managed to get women. Popular rappers such as Lil Wayne has literally bragged about getting children killed but still managed to attract multiple women who had children by him. The list goes on and on. You're saying brock turner has a line out the door? I don't understand your qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:21 PM
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Because those people don't offend their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:13 PM
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Yes, even "subtle" signs can be a red flag for them. and many things that can be signs can also be completely harmless How is a sign that someone isn't a good person harmless? So now you're meant to even worry that you're comfortable around someone?! No, I'm saying they ARE anxious around assholes because they do pick up on the red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:13 PM
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Plenty of them do and guess what?... there are women who still flock to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:09 PM
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That's the thing...they aren't "learning" from every mistake because there is rarely social repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:07 PM
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where are you getting this from? You said you don't expect ANYONE to treat you poorly. Please keep up with your responses. many people are or no one would get graped or murdered. Obviously, most of them do not know they are around a grapist or murder... Are you saying you have knowingly been around grapists and serial killers expecting to be safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:05 PM
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It's not that deep. Humans don't need to be brainwashed or gaslit to indulge in their pleasures. The only thing that will stop them is pure pain. Like I said, they only shun these men when he becomes a complete liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:02 PM
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So you'd feel secure and safe around a serial killer or grapist too? Is your confidence that high? It has nothing to do with how we feel about ourselves because rational people understand they cannot control others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:00 PM
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That female intuition seems to go missing when they are actually attracted to a man, suddenly they are Stevie Wonder. Yeah, it doesn't go away. They know deep down which is why they may even be a little anxious, jealous and controlling in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:57 PM
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You don't have to pick up on every single sign to get it. In fact, I do think most pick up on the red flags hence the trend of people "joking" about how they ignore red flags. I think the fact most of these people do not feel completely secure and comfortable with assholes is another tell tale sign. Anxiety is a good indicator that they're picking up on something sketchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:53 PM
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Exactly why I mentioned the narcissism of expecting special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:47 PM
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Special treatment as in "Don't treat me like you treat thooose people.. Treat me better." If you see they don't give others basic respect and common courtesy, why do you expect them to treat you better? Because you're giving them sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:46 PM
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Exactly why I mentioned the narcissism. Some of them expect special treatment for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:25 PM
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Trying to find hypocrisy in me is not a rebuttal. I never denied being a narcissist and I'm not a man. Feel free to explain why you think I'm wrong. You'd be a lot more convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:23 PM
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Let's just both agree that I'm telling the truth here. Would you admit that I'm right? Would you cosign my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:38 AM
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You seem very naive or in-denial. Many women have allowed themselves to be disrespect and degraded over thier strong desire for good sex. They will leave or even cheat on a good looking, "masculine" man if he's not satisfying her in the bedroom. I know it may not be normal in your community for women to express that but the women within my community will say what they won't say. Go look up the term "dickmatized" on urban dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:13 PM
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The "outlier" disproves the claim. If only good looks mattered, micro model would have no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:25 PM
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Who said otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:49 PM
1

So you think a male model with a micro-penis will be able to satisfy them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:40 PM
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If the smaller guy knows what he's doing, you should be fine but most people end up feeling like they "settled".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:58 PM
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Yeah I agree. You may make him emotionally/mentally feel better than a starfish but I thought we were just talking physically. Even if he feels undesirable to the starfish, how his body responded to her will always be in the back of his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:51 PM
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Yeah I'm not saying physical attraction doesn't matter at all but a very experienced man isn't focused on how you look is what I'm saying. If he had to choose one woman to go home with for the night, he isn't gonna choose the person with the prettiest face/body. He's going after the person whose giving the sexiest vibe if that makes Sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:47 PM
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Yeah, im not talking about looks here. Sure they ultimately prefer someone who is also "active" in bed but they will worship a starfish if she has top tier pussy. That's what matter most, not performance. So just because his ex wasn't acting like a pornstar in bed doesn't mean he doesn't prefer her sexually over you. That's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:36 PM
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He was considered to be a very attractive man in that day in age. Now move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:31 PM
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(I'm a 20min, 2-3 positions, every other day type of guy), None of this indicates that someone is boring in bed... If you know what you're doing and are well-equipped, you don't need to go very long and you don't need 1000 different positions. A satisfied partner will not get bored waiting every other day. They will gladly wait. When I say looks won't save you, I'm saying your partner will likely prefer to be with someone else. They may not show it but it's in the back of thier mind. Just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:30 PM
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Let me tell you... a girl can be a complete starfish in bed if she's well equipped. Thats who they're gonna prefer deep down. Don't be fooled. Performance may help but that won't save you either. Not saying you aren't the best he's had but don't be fooled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:20 PM
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Yeah, tell that to Ted Bundy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:13 PM
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and 99% of men don't compare their wife to the women he slept with before marriage. I tried to be patient but this took the cake. Pure dishonesty. Comparison is inevitable. It's in our nature as humans. How do you think we choose who we date and marry? We are literally comparing them to our other options. Since you can't be honest, you have forfeited your privilege to debate with me. Also clear you didn't read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:50 AM
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I'll answer your question after you answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:01 PM
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The guys that genuinely don't care typically are men they can't control so that's why many of them are starting to prey on insecure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:00 PM
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If you understand that it's about sexual comparison, why would you say it doesn't matter if she's been with other guys? It's also insecurity to lie about your past in fear of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:58 PM
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Okay so would you tell your partner that before establishing a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:14 PM
1

Literally says in the description a place to discuss sex. If you're triggered, just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:56 PM
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When thus topic comes up, a lot of people just assume something is wrong with the guy. It's hard for many people to believe the vagina was just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:34 PM
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Not sure if I was gonna get flagged or not. Let's not nitpick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:31 PM
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I'm talking about the quality of the vag*na such as the texture, the smell, the moisture and the tightness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:14 PM
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Other people have explained this in their comments far better than I can, but let me repeat it: Most relationships are also dependent on sexual compatibility. (They are dependent on many things, and sexual compatibility is one of them.) Okay and I'm CLEARLY only talking about the ones that completely end SIMPLY due to sexual incompatibility. I don't see what you people aren't getting. And when I say completely, I mean completely. Not just romantically but platonically as well. Claiming that this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:33 AM
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This is CMV. You have to care to some extent to try and change someone's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:17 AM
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Yeah, I'm ESL. Care to explain what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:58 AM
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Sexual incompatibility will not lead to going no-contact. It literally does in fact lead to no-contact a lot and this reality seems to be scaring the children. But sexual incompatibility may lead to a breakup, which then leads to going no-contact. This will only happen to relationships that were based and dependent on sexual compatibility. No genuine bond would end this way. This is the point of my post. even if the breakup resulted from mutually agreeing that there is a sexual incompatibility t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:56 AM
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The smart people got the post just fine because they answered the question with no issues. It's not me, it's you. My title is not specifically referring to the romantic relationships but the relationship between two people overall. I only brought up romantic partners in the post because this is who I'm advising you to question. Is that more clear for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:50 AM
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So let's just cut to the chase, lol. Would you still hang out with your girlfriend and your female friends if you no longer found them sexually attractive? It's a yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:40 AM
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Sexual incompatibility should not lead you to completely leave someone's life if you actually value them as a person and for more than sex. Do you understand that? The point of this post is literally going over multiple heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:33 AM
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"Relationship" doesn't not mean "romantic relationship" by default. In my title, I'm referring to the connection two people share. Relationships can be platonic, parental, business, etc, You seem to very confused along with the others. I break down the purpose of the question in my other response to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:27 AM
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Most do need to find their partners attractive yet don't hold an extreme stance where it's the main factor in if the relationship last. If you can acknowledge that many do in fact abandon their partner completely due to a of lack of sexual chemistry, what exactly are you arguing for? Who cares if it's not most people? How do you go from talking about a friend to a partner in a relationship? These two relationships share similarities but there are still large differences. This post is clearly aim…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:22 AM
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None. I have few things and few people around me. Only those that I consider useful. So I don't abandon them. Exactly. These are the things/people you actually value. These are the things you deem important enough to keep around. 😂 They made the cut. If you valued your partner after the sexual chemistry went away, you'd still keep them around and wouldn't abandon them. I threw things to the trash when they had no use Exactly. So if you abandon someone to the trash because you do not find them se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:53 PM
1

And why do I need luck again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:37 PM
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I don't completely dispose of anything/anyone that doesn't cause harm to me. I just stop treating those things/humans as priorities. So you're a hoarder? Lol.. you never threw anything harmless in the trash or sold any of your belongings to anyone? Highly doubt it. If you're gonna partake in these discussions, put your ego aside and be honest. So let's try again. What actual valuable object/person did you completely abandon? Start here then we can address the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:33 PM
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The presence of the better object or person has rendered the inferior object useless to you which is why you abandoned it. You no longer need it. It's not important anymore, therefore, you no longer place value on it. If it was still significantly useful, you'd keep it around. Give me an example of a valuable/important object that you'd completely dispose of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:16 PM
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I don't think romance has anything to do with love at all. I think romance and love are two separate experiences. Sorry but there is a single definition of love. Immature people have simply hijacked the term and that's why you think romance is love. You've been brainwashed and programmed with false ideas of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:18 PM
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Okay, you're a little confusing because you just described FRIENDS w/ benefits as someone you DON'T really click with. A little contradicting. With that being said, if you could actually maintain a genuine friendship with your spouse if you lost sexual attraction to them, then I'd say that bond is solid. That's pretty much what I'm saying you should look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:09 PM
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Please follow along. I said a genuine friendship doesn't require sexual attraction, PAL. Again, if you are not seeking friendship in your partner, sit this one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:03 PM
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I'm being specific about what I'm asking for a reason. Some people have a skewed idea of what a genuine friend is. So again, do you see yourself genuinely hanging out and supporting one another if there was no sexual attraction? Try to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:01 PM
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You literally said you were not seeking friendship but okay. No real, genuine friendship requires sexual attraction buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:59 PM
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What do you think a GENUINE friend is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:57 PM
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My partner is not ONLY in my life because i find her sexually stimulating, it's one of the many pillars of why i want to be with her. If sexual stimulaltion wasn't there though, the relationship wouldn't hold. So would you still maintain a strong, platonic connection if the sexual attraction faded? Like still hang out, still support her, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:55 PM
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I guess you never heard of situationships, "FWB" and other forms of "casual dating"? When people realize they can't get sex without "commitment", they pretend to commit in order to get it. They pretend to actually value the person for more than sex. This happens more than people like to admit because it scares the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:52 PM
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So you only value these people for sex is what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:47 PM
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If you do not seek genuine friendship within your partnerships then this conversation isn't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:41 PM
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What is your idea of valuable? Literally no one willfully abandons anything they actually see as valuable if they have access to it. You can recognize the positive attributes in something but not consider it valuable or important to your life. People usually only abandon things they see as useless/worthless. A nice house that can't function properly is not valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:35 PM
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This post is not about maintaining a romantic connection but a genuine platonic connection. Please read before you respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:29 PM
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Feel free to explain why you think my views are wrong. Trying to pin point character flaws is not a rebuttal, it's a fallacious cop-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:28 PM
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Why would I do that? That would defeat the point of my post. You people are very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:25 PM
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Wise. Not many think that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:24 PM
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The title does not say anything about romance. Nothing about the title is "whiny". If you actually read the post, I'm clearly referring to the platonic aspect of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:23 PM
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After that period of recalibration a friendship could resume. Yes and my post is basically saying "make sure a GENUINE, STRONG BOND can continue if the sexual chemistry fades."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:20 PM
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Where did I whine about them not wanting to be romantic? Quote it. waits for strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:16 PM
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Good luck with what? waits for strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:15 PM
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Yeah, no shit. Did you read the first sentence of the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:13 PM
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Never said they should continue a romantic relationship if they lose sexual attraction hence the question in bold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:45 PM
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I'll address all your questions after you answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:15 PM
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No one needs sexual attraction to maintain a genuine, strong friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:02 PM
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You did assume which is why you told me to tell incels this. You assumed I wasn't already talking to incels. My post didn't single out any group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:01 PM
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Exactly. So if your connection is so genuine and loving, there should remain a strong, genuine friendship despite sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:59 PM
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Seems like the point also went over your head as well. My post is specifically about those who completely abandon their partner due to lack of physical attraction. I'm not talking about simply leaving a romantic connection but severing the connection overall. Now that we got that out of the way, can you honestly say your relationship was genuine and loving if someone completely withdraws their presence and support from your life just because you couldn't turn them on? Start here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:57 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:44 PM
1

Zero attraction can ALSO imply disgust. Someone who is okay with being unattractive DOES NOT CARE who is disgusted by them. Do you understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:42 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:36 PM
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You don't want to accept that disgust IS also zero attraction. If you were fine with zero attraction, you would be fine with disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:36 PM
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Again, you're not sucking me into a pointless debate about who I find attractive. You are contradicting yourself. You initially said you were okay with zero attraction as long as you got sex, cuddles and kisses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:32 PM
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Yeah, you can't speak for them. They seem more disturbed by the fact they aren't attractive to the woman and that she's not eager to please him because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:31 PM
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Yeah, facts don't care about your feelings. Your connotations do not dictate meanings. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:27 PM
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I agree. My post is about those who's connection to their partner literally depends on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:26 PM
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I am totally fine with her not being attracted to me, but I am not fine with her being visibly disgusted by me. Contradiction. You do not want her to show that she's not attracted to you. That means you are not totally fine with being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:24 PM
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Again, you said you'd be OKAY if she didn't find you attractive. That literally means zero attraction. IF you were genuinely okay with zero attraction, you would not be upset by her disgust. Do you understand now? Stop trying to derail and shift the focus on me. Let's address your misunderstanding of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:17 PM
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Whoever made that analogy about the house not having a heating system and backing out if the deal because of it summed up the issue near perfectly. Did you just decide to overlook the rebuttal? Financial struggles are one of the most common reasons marriages end. Does that mean the only reason someone marries another person is because they have money? If they completely abandon their spouse and withdraw all support SIMPLY because of financial issues, then yes...you had a gold digger on your hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:13 PM
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I have a feeling the point may have went over your head like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:00 PM
1

So do you finally understand what the difference between being disgusted by and not being attracted to someone is? This is something you just made up because being disgusted by someone LITERALLY means you are not attracted to them. Obviously you find your FWB attractive enough to comfortably have sex with her so you're just confused about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:58 PM
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I'm fully aware of these things. This person claimed that they'd be OKAY with not being attractive to a woman as long as she was giving him sex, cuddles and kisses. Obviously that has proven to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:51 PM
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At this point, I believe you are playing dumb or just can't keep up. Let's say she AGREES to do all of that even though she is visibly disgusted. You're not forcing her, it's transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:44 PM
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Are you saying that if you can't have any kind of connection - romantic or otherwise - with a person that you don't have a physical attraction to then that's a red flag? I'm specifically referring to your partner here. So I'm saying if you wouldn't be able to maintain a strong connection to your spouse after losing sexual attraction, then that's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:41 PM
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Let's not go off topic, now. Focus. What mood is she killing? Why does it hurt emotionally to be rejected if you claim you are okay simply exchanging money for sex, cuddles and kisses?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:37 PM
1

Why do you care if she finds you disgusting? Start there so you can see the flaw in your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:26 PM
-1

Do you know what abandonment is? I'm not saying romantic relationships don't depend on physical attraction. I'm talking about the connection overall. If lack of sexual attraction is a deal breaker, then the entire connection depends on that and that's a red flag if you're looking for a serious connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:23 PM
1

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what CC: means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:18 PM
1

Romantic "love" is by far the most juvenile, cliché idea of love that exist but I digress. My post is not about romantic "love" or else I would've said that. I'm referring to actual love. It's not multi-dimensional. Juvenile people such as yourself simply hijacked the term "love" to describe their desire and admiration for those they are attracted to. It's two entirely different concepts. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:17 PM
2

What's cap?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:05 PM
1

Why would you assume hypocrisy? Where was I being hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:04 PM
1

Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:03 PM
-8

It means that you do not value the house if you completely abandon it just like you do not value the people you abandon simply because they do not sexually stimulate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:58 PM
2

Repulsion is lack of attraction as well. If you don't care about being attractive, then being repulsive to her shouldn't matter. Sounds like you at least just want the illusion of being attractive because deep down you do care about being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:54 PM
3

This goes for all of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:50 PM
1

Why would it be a turn off? I thought you said you didn't care if she was attracted to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:49 PM
1

Yeah, I made it clear that you shouldn't be in a romantic relationship with them. Please try to follow along. My post is about whether or not you'd have a genuine, strong friendship with your partner if you were not sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:48 PM
2

What do you mean by intimacy? So if she was visibly repulsed by you touching her but forced herself to give you sex, cuddles and kisses for money, you'd be 100% satisfied with the exchange? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:46 PM
0

I agree they shouldn't pursue a romantic relationship with someone they're not sexually attracted to. My post is about whether or not you actually value the person despite sexual attraction. Would there still be a strong, genuine connection if there was no sexual stimulation. If not, then you may have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:42 PM
7

That's fine if that's the agreement. I'm talking to those who are actually interested in a relationship based in actual love. Curious..would you tell your wife that she has to remain sexually attractive to remain in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:35 PM
2

Yeah I agree. I'm just telling them not to be shocked if they know they are in a shallow relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:33 PM
3

Now replace sex with money. Would you be okay if someone didn't find you attractive but wanted to use you for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:30 PM
2

Yeah, I'm not telling you to seek a roommate. I'm telling you that you should seek someone who actually values you regardless of physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:28 PM
1

Yeah, it's fine if you do not want to continue a romantic relationship with her. I'm addressing those who would have no type of relationship at all if there were no sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:26 PM
-1

They don't have to verbally say it. Actions speak louder than words. Many people believe it does but are afraid to express that verbally in fear of appearing shallow. When you completely abandon/ignore someone due to lack of sexual attraction, you are indirectly "saying" the relationship depends on sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:24 PM
2

Sure but I'm saying sexual attraction shouldn't dictate at all whether or not you will remain in your partner's life and genuinely care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:19 PM
2

Sure. My point is, your spouse shouldn't HAVE to be sexually attractive in order for you to genuinely care about them and be involved in thier life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:14 PM
1

Where did I say you couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:09 PM
2

Had to look that term up. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:08 PM
23

I suspect you have no interest in the truth or you're living in a parallel universe lmao. I'm curious as to why you are convinced the primary consumers of romance/erotic novels and movies have no interest in intimacy, sex and affection? I won't even address the rest of the nonsense you typed but this argument here is just fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:00 PM
2

You seem to be in denial.. alphas can only lock down alphas. You're not alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:55 PM
2

You're in denial. People date people who are inferior to them all the time for various reasons. They're still not equal. If one person is far more satisfied with the relationship than the other, then this is a tell tale sign that someone has more to offer than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:20 PM
1

This applies to both genders, not just the men. Most people are not humble enough to remain loyal when faced with temptation. Even if you did get someone within your "league", most will still take the opportunity to cheat with someone under temptation. That being said, people like you need to also stop preying on people you think are inferior. Just because you can't "have" the man/woman you want doesn't mean you have to seek someone inferior to stroke your ego. Humble yourself. If you could actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:17 PM
4

But I asked who do you think settles more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:33 PM
1

You make no sense to me right now tbh. You don't know what why means? I'll answer your question right after you answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:49 PM
2

Why do you care about lowering their standards at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:07 PM
2

It's my example of bashing because their intentions is to shame and fear monger when they say this. Let's not nitpick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:27 PM
3

Nothing if you're okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:22 PM
2

Yeah, I'm not referring to those who are actually just giving constructive criticism but those who are trying to shame and guilt women into lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:17 PM
1

Go look up the whole "die alone then, cat lady!" trend amongst the manosphere then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:14 PM
2

Very controversial. Most people have too much pride to admit such a thing. I appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:10 PM
3

So you admit you want these women to settle for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:47 PM
3

Why do you want them to know they're trash? Why do you care if they're being unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:45 PM
0

So are you basically implying that "men" are concerned that women are setting themselves up for disappointment? If your answer is yes, why do you care? Are you also saying men are concerned that they will get stuck with a woman who doesn't know what she wants even though they're telling yall what they want and get bashed for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:27 PM
14

Not just the name-callers but the people who also use fear mongering tactics such as "you'll die alone because your standards are too high". I'm not talking about people who are simply coming with constructive criticism but those who are attacking others for their standards because they want them to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:22 PM
-1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:19 PM
-3

Why do you care if simps inflate our egos?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:09 PM
7

Argue? Simply answering questions is not arguing. Why are you concerned if others choose to engage in my post? What do you have to lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:08 PM
6

Is this just code for "I have no logical explanation for my irrational behavior."?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:02 PM
2

I'm just gonna assume you don't socialize much for my own sanity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:54 AM
2

What are you talking about? Are you denying that this happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:13 PM
2

Fantasy? The guy typically gets rejected in this scenario... why would that appeal to men? There are awkward men who "shoot thier shot" despite having anxiety. At some point, many of these men were BP and didn't know better. They often have to learn the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:12 PM
-8

I don't entertain sexist, inaccurate blanket statements when it comes to this topic. Try to speak more accurately when you talk to me please. A lot of men settle because they can't actually "have" who they prefer. Even if they have access to her, they know her heart isn't with him so they choose to marry the "safer option" for security. This happens to many men and women so don't take it as an attack on the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:38 PM
1

I don't entertain sexist, inaccurate blanket statements when it comes to this topic. Let's be a little bit more realistic. Where do you think the whole "awkward guy ask out popular girl" imagery comes from? A lot of inadequate men shoot out of their "league" sometimes and many feel like they deserve women who are better than them. They often have a skewed perception of thier worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:29 PM
22

These people want to ignore the reality of settling because it ruins the story book fantasy they have set up in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:50 PM
2

I agree. I'm specifically addressing the pair bonding excuse. Sorry if I was misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:33 PM
1

Sure but a "plethora of choices" doesn't necessarily mean good choices. People settle everyday with "safe options" they can simply tolerate. Don't be fooled. Who they settle down with doesn't mean it's who they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:32 PM
-1

What baggage, drama, etc. inherently comes with having a high count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:28 PM
1

I'm not saying you should actually want a woman who is like this. I'm saying many RP men would feel more safe with her compared to the woman with the lower body count who only slept with highly desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:22 PM
3

Thing is, these people are not actually disgusted with promiscuity. Most would not turn down sex with a desirable woman just because she's promiscuous. They would even date her if she chose them and stayed faithful. Let's not play dumb games.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:53 PM
-1

Yeah, not convinced. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:49 PM
7

We're in 2022 now. People are getting abortions, using birth control and paternity test exist. This fear is no longer haunting people. Stop with the weak excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:46 PM
1

I didn't ask who was of higher value. I asked you who would you realistically choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:44 PM
1

4 and below
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:40 PM
1

The pair-bonding argument is based in insecurity which is what I'm specifically addressing. I agree that being easily enticed is a red flag but even a woman with a low body count can be easily enticed if the right guys come around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:39 PM
2

No, I agree. I'm specifically addressing the pair-bonding argument. Sorry if my title is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:35 PM
3

Why is it unattractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:34 PM
1

It still depends case by case is the point. It makes no sense to write off someone who has a higher count if those 50 men are inferior. It would make no sense to instead pursue the woman with the lower count if all of her ex's are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:34 PM
5

No. I have an issue with them being deceptive about their true motives for pursuing less experienced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:31 PM
1

If the chick with the low body count has only ever been with the most desirable men and got dumped, you would still pick her over the woman who has been with "100 5' tall lepers with micropenises"? If so, explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:26 PM
1

It doesn't matter to them is my point. I explained why it doesn't matter and what they are actually concerned about. I'm more interested in clearing the air, I'm not trying to convince them to not care about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:16 PM
6

Because my emotions and ego isn't attached to the discussion. I don't fear high body counts and I don't have a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:14 PM
-2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:13 PM
3

Those "scientific" studies never get down to the meat and bones about why people with higher counts fail to pair bond which is what I'm doing in my post. They never prove that it's the amount of partners that's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:13 PM
1

What does n count mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:11 PM
4

Yes. No tables have turned with me. I've been consistent in my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:43 AM
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