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The sidebar and lifting are the two obvious places to start as others have said, but that's a long game. She won't communicate and spends your money? If that's the case, first see a lawyer. Get papers, next cut her cards and put her on an allowance. Tell her it things do not change you will no longer pay for her school. If she is sleeping in another room odda are she is cheating. You need to resolve in your head you are not afraid of divorce and you need to over turn the apple cart. Find your ba…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 04:48 PM
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Many more woman than you think would choose to share a man they deemed quality than you think. Think about mistresses for a second, polygny is the same just out in the open. Your statement about singular usage and Jesus quoting Genisis proves nothing nor can you prove your point. Keep paroting your Catholic mythology. Yeshua never says go spread my message. He says go make disciples. It never says Yeshua created anything called a church nor put Peter as its head. He said upon a rock he'd build a…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 02:50 AM
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You don't understand what's really going on. You are a woman, you don't understand the language of men. How men communicate or how their minds work. You are looking into a world you don't understand and trying to comment on it. You calling it satanic is like the pot calling the kettle black. You celebrate the weeping of tamuz the son of baal but call it lent, you celebrate a day dedicated to Baals consort astarte or let me say Easter. You worship on the day of the sun, and throw a festivitity to…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 02:28 AM
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You know very little and gloss over the issues I raise. I'm not exactly for polygyny but it is not destructive for societies and without it their would be no nation of Israel. The basar echad or one flesh is a quote from Genesis, not something he made up. Jacob was basar echad with Rachel and Leah. Stop pretending that you know the bible, you may know your Catholic traditions but the oracles of God were not committed to them.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 01:49 AM
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[[1Ti 5:14]] KJV I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. You show your ignorance. If Paul's statement of remaing as I is about being unmarried, why does he then does he command marriage. My Faith is much older than yours Catholic, I'm a netzari jew. While there is plenty of reason to promote biblical marriage, Yeshua did not condem polygyny anywhere. There are many reasons that are good even to pro…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/15 11:00 PM
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Prove that it does. Yes, thank the creator I am not a catholic. Who violate the Prohibition of adding or taking away from his word, who blaspheme against him in every foreseeable way. I pray that he has mercy upon them, for professing to be wise they are fools. Not to haptomai can again be a reference to partaking in heathen practices. It's good not to partake in heathen practices with a woman, so better to take a wife instead of debauchery with a cultic prostitute. Whether or not he is referrin…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 06:59 AM
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What's great about Corinthians 7 you quoted is by context the word for wife can be a) woman b) wife or c) equal to the Hebrew pilagesh or concubine. The word translated as fornication is better used as harlotry which can be used as idol worship, Paul's comment about remaining as I can be a reference to being free from Idolatrous practices. You think its so clear cut only because you use your English bible with your modem bias translated back into it. - Shalom
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 03:08 AM
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First, that statement does not mean a) Paul was never married, nor b) Paul never married. [[1Co 9:5/KJVLite]] Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? There is a lot of conjecture we can get into. Suffice it to say to conclude Paul was celibate is not the same even as concluding he was not married. He may have been, but for starters you are also erroneously concluding fornication is unequivocally premarital sex whic…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 02:48 AM
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Martin Luther was lauded as a great man becuase victors write the history. The dude had some balls but he was a man of half measures like king Saul. The very thing he set out to do he failed in because in end he didn't want to overturn the apple cart. He failed to restore the 4th commandment and in doing so he accepted Catholic Authority to change the Word of God. In the council of Trent, this was the listed reason for Catholics ultimately rejecting the Reformation.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 12:10 AM
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The Catholic church is a den of pagans, their view on sexuality is warped and not based on anything biblical. There is no evidence Paul was celibate, people misunderstand the dude all the time. Recall in Titus and Timothy he says deacons and elders should have wives. Scripture indicatea Peter was married, Paul writes asking if should not be allowed to bring a wife along like Peter.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 12:04 AM
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There is an old Jewish Maxim, if I'm not for me, who will be? If I'm for myself only, who am I? If not now then when, if not me then you who? Complete Red Pill.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/15 11:57 PM
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The Reformation is the greatest joke in Christiandom, sadly moat missed the punchline.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/15 11:54 PM
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I'd say from experience Christians love their traditions more than the word of God. Much like SOME of the Pharisees in Yeshua's day. It's interesting that mcuch of even what dedicated Christians do today is neither found in or authorized by the bible. The concepts found in Red Pill generally are not opposed by the bible, however some applications by individuals in regard to those principals do come into conflict.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/15 12:02 AM
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Id agree, every great man recorded in the bible is hardly what Christianity identifies with today. Many of them did things people would not consider nice. It's interesting how they twist the NT to almost condemn men like Abraham Judah or Jacob, yet the bible itself applauds them. This should be a red flag in and of itself.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/15 11:56 PM
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Actually while some meanings of words have become fuzzy due to age, the children of Israel were the ones who these words were committed to. The Jews have guarded the Tanahk with extensive care for thousands of years. Before the kingdom was divided the southern kingdom was the hub of the Faith and the Elder and Priest alike taught the meaning. A bunch of gentiles over the last two thousand years have decided to write their own dictionary so to speak. The Bible as a whole is not the "Christian bib…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/15 11:41 PM
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That's the pretty much how I see it.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/15 11:35 PM
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I don't promote religion per se. I'm a priest, and a king. Im a warrior of words and deeds who serves the king of all creation. I'm a member of a nation, a body.. my book is my road map, its my wisdom, my legal code and weapon. It's purpose is to restore and transform man to his ultimate potential, the image of God. Man achieves this potential through struggle, striving towards imitation of the creator. Sin is simply man's deviation from the path, its purpose is to teach. You fall down, you get …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/11/15 02:14 AM
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Alright point taken. It looked defensive, and weak.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 07:06 PM
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I dont disagree. Im not afaraid of any such thing. My concern is derailing and a peanut gallerery forming before a complete thought is formulated. Silly thought wasnt it. Im curious to where the inference of not "owning my shit" comes in?
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 03:31 AM
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If that logic is true then you are nonverbaly negiotiating through all of MRP. Changing clothes, fixing finances, adding dominance, etc... Then you can negotiate desire.... The sky is falling. Understand the concept of the transcendent cause has on well being. If she is doing it not only from primal desire but ALSO for a hirer purpose now you have internal fullfilment in more ways then one.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 02:31 AM
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As time permits i will continue to edit the orignal post. Im having some difficulty between c&p flipping windows in android etc.. that have caused me to lose some revission already. I can try to touch some of your points.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 02:26 AM
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Well there is a dicference between empty religion and a biblical faith. The bible does not prompote a religion per se but instead a nation or kingdom. As to whether or not i have the answers he is looking for will remain to be seen. Everyone is a slave to someone or something. Many people are slaves to themselves or their own imginations. The issue withe the bible is not the bible but men. Men often corrupt its content for self serving gain. What the scripture offers is a manual with a divine so…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 02:22 AM
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Im not new to RP, i did not say all dread produces fear. However, most of game and the RP techniques are set to operate on the hind brain so to speak. It often plays on subconcious thought rather than concious thought.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/15 12:51 AM
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Its funny you think manipulation with religion is worse than other forms of manipulation. Every human interaction is a form of manipulation.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/11/15 09:29 PM
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Thats proposing sex from raw desire is superior. Because we are more than animal impulses, a woman can have passionate sex with a man and can feel awful inside and hate herself even apart from religious shaming. People do not always feel good or intellectually go along with the impulses they give into. Its only different here because people say it is. Whats the difference if she is only having sex because primal instinct told here to or God. And, what if they can both be true. Many woman have se…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/11/15 09:24 PM
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Well, id disagree you feel free, but no offense id say you are a slave to your self, your own ego. Driven by whim and animal impulse, even if its directed by higher thought. Not all religion is centered on the here after. Much of the Jewish view is tied to life here in this world and improving it. We call it tikun olam, modern christianity has turned it into simply being about olam haba or the world to come. Actually more acurately Christianity turns it into a focus on going to heaven and escapi…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/11/15 09:15 PM
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As frame encompasses world view, a biblical frame expresses a biblical world view. I have seen many here from the onset that have this point of view. As to the second question, there is a proper way and also their are rules to scriptural interpration. They have been handed down for years. While somethings allow for many interpratations others do not. Words mean certain things. There are basic rules such as word meanings, and etymological study. Local context, then followed by global context. Com…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/11/15 09:08 PM
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OK, I'll do it. Give me sometime. I'll have to go through my Aramaic NT which I only have in book form. Everything else I could do from here. Pastors stumble because they try to understand at best first century Christianity, and of truth there really was no such thing. So they are mainly looking at late 2nd and 3rd century sources or later. To understand 1st century Christianity one needs to understand 1st century Judaism. I' will not post any more on this topic in cad's thread.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/11/15 10:12 PM
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It's a very literal reading of original language of all vereses, Hebrew, Aramaic and greek with a cultural and historical context. I'd gladly delve into it in a separate thread.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 10:41 PM
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Hence why they snap and shoot up mall or something.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 07:52 PM
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I'll have to reread the posting guidelines as they may have been update while I was away. As for anything else thanks for your opinions. However, I have always personally been against dumbing things down and pandering. If an individual is so blind to not see it as perrsonally relatable or not, that's on them. You only get out, the effort you put in. However, for your satisfaction. My wife doesn't have free access to money. She has the money I give her, the bank accounts et. Are my domain. She ca…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 07:00 PM
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I had not read that, truly an excellent post. Resolve this truth in your head now, or forever be in debt.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 06:45 PM
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It's not a series of mechanics likes video game. I generally prefer people to use their own minds to generate how it applies to them. I don't know their life. It's not meant to be a philosophical metaphor either, its reality. A lot of guys are angry because they keep doling out, and are even used as emotional tampons. They expect their nuturing, loving wives, etc.. To respond to this benevolence in kind. It doesn't happen. If the resources are desirable, and not easy to get or their is competiti…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 06:33 PM
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I'm not posting here to defend or not defend. Besides cad I'm sure neither wants nor needs my defense. I will speak on the cheating notion, if you are coming from a biblical frame or at least a Christian moral influence, you need to be aware how much feminsim and pandering to woman in general is going on. Twisting scriptures to shame and suite their reality. So, I'm not going to tackle his specific case. Adultery does not happen every time you lust. Adultery happens when a MARRIED WOMAN sleeps w…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 03:31 PM
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I realize some need more hand holding than others, no offense intended. The now of stopping is detailed subtlety in the post. You realize when you no longer care about her feelZ in the sense they manipulate you, it does not change you into a prick. You can still display what many would identify as goodness, or care. However now it stems from your character and not as a response from her behavior. I identify this as the benevolent dictator.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 02:54 PM
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How do I handle it when she ignores me? Enjoy the time by reading a good book in peace. All kidding aside as I have a pretty decent sahm most of the time, her a ignoring me doesn't bother me a bit, used to but now really why should you care? I don't respond, I act normal and just enjoy it.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/11/15 12:19 AM
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Thank you cad, you laid it out much clearer than I.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/11/15 05:58 PM
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Woman are covert communicators, you are speaking her language. Also, why do you care if she calls you out? At some point you have to reach a stage where you stop being afraid of your wife.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/11/15 03:28 AM
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It's because many are starting to realize that if they don't change they'll die crazy cat ladies. However, other woman will crucify then if they say so openly.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/11/15 03:24 AM
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That's my point, I don't believe a lot of unplugging guys really get "be alpha" or give her some "beta", easy usage does not always help clarity of thought or speech. It is also misleading, in the main sub you got a lot of guys throwing around the term becuase most of them are jocking for that top dog spot. Here is a different environment with a more mature audience.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/11/15 03:21 AM
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I think RP has matured to a point to where we can stop saying alpha and beta all the time, and speak clear language. It's like the guy that sais dude, and rad every five seconds. Really the alpha is more about dominance and leading, many men here just are not that, maybe in therir own home, buts that's it. Really their focus should be on being masculine and promoting feminie qualities in their wife. The truth of it though, is you should not care if your wife is too much of a ball buster to surre…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/11/15 07:52 PM
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Well, yes... The point being however, I wouldn't use the word raped. I'd say taken, or I infact like the English of the biblical Hebrew word which would be better translated as humbled rather than raped. If we are too free with that word which has legal definition and ramifications we then judge ourselves guilty by our own mouths. To say a woman was coerced because she is turned on is a recipe for a disaster. Might as well agree with the femi naziis and say every man is a rapsit.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/11/15 07:43 PM
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This is the core of what is really behind alpha, some of these terms get tossed around so much and in so many ways they lose meaning. Really instead of saying alpha so much of should really be said be masculine and when beta is need its more express feminine qualities. The turn off of the overly beta husband is he is in effect acting like a woman in a sense.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/11/15 07:35 PM
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Yes, that is the party line. I'm just saying its not true that MRP as a sub was antimarriage. The founding mod has in the past commented against that notion awhile back.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/11/15 12:25 AM
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The logic in that post is circular, and somewhat defaeting. What a woman feels one moment to the next is often disconnected, the same dude she felt raped by maybe be the same dude she beggs for. While an interesting read, it ultimately leaves you with you are damned if you do and if you don't. Even with in the context of the concept of rape there is an interesting notion, that while an uncomfortable thought many woman have rape fantasies, not that they necessarily want to experience it, nor am I…
/r/MarriedRedPill10/11/15 12:23 AM
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Actually this sub was not founded on antimarraige principals, I've been around since pretty early on, unless something has changed while I've been away it still isn't. It just does not encourage marriage in its current 2.0 incarnation as some call it.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/11/15 12:05 AM
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Enjoying sexuality is a choice you make, we are not robots and we have brains and imaginations for a reason. A dude who sleeps with his unattractive wife isn't being raped is he? By your estimation is yes, very few people would agree with you. The prostitute example is good, not all are trafficked. Truth is some choose is as a career I.e. call girls, etc... Does her husband need to be all primal and chestbanging to go to work to provide? Heck I'm sure most guys here have days where they'd rather…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/11/15 09:37 PM
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What's interesting is in an RP way is when the two become one flesh they in effect become the man. I.e Adam was madeand female, the restoration of that through marriage makes them in fact Adam or man. This illustrates the role of help meet and the rp concept of having her share your life and vision.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/15 03:56 AM
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The religion called Christianity today is a joke. One should not confuse what the Bible teaches and what Christianity in its myriad of forms teaches. They are not the same thing.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/15 03:51 AM
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Regardless of what other dudes say here you don't need to flirt at all, you can be friendly, woman that are attracted to you will flirt openly. You don't even need to respond in kind
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/15 03:50 AM
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Are you serious? This mind set is mental, she takes his resources.. Is he a rape victim? I've never felt good about sex the the woman was not into, but calling rape is another matter. Your brains are still soaking in some feminist centric soup. I don't know the ins and outs of the story or the people, but identifying "duty" sex as rape is pandering to the feminist imparitive. She chooses not to put in effort to enjoy sexuality with her husband, that's her fault and loss. We are more than just an…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/15 03:45 AM
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My Acts quote is from Paul, I didn't write that clear enough. I don't want anyone to think I'm saying it was philo.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/06/15 07:01 PM
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This is not exactly true. Dualism was apart of Greek thought, and actually connected many to Christianity. There were schools of stoic thought, literal schools not figurative. The philosophy was pretty broad amongst the Greek realm. Philo of Alexandria had much interaction with them. [[Act 17:18/KJVLite]] Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/06/15 06:26 PM
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Evidently you do not know me around here. I'm not rationalizing anything, I'm dealing with removing ignorance. The fact is, a woman being unfaithful has all the consequences of a man being unfaithful AND more.... Yes more, getting pregnant brings another man's child into the home. A man getting a woman pregnant does not do the same, even if he should be sued for child support and then it is at least his responsibility to take care of. They are not equal at all, no matter how much the same they m…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/06/15 04:18 AM
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Redpill is neither religious nor non religious. It's adherents walk both sides. Implying it has an exclusivity in that regard is not a true statement. Reading the bible and understanding it are two different things. I don't believe everyone would agree with your position of still needing unplugging for this regard. Truth be told I find it personaly more disturbing that some men in Redpill will addict themselves to the writing of any man as if its source was something other than from the mind of …
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 07:35 PM
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Same could be said for science or Reddit. Most such cliches cut both ways.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 07:31 PM
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Stoicism and the scriptures were fast friends in the first century ce, which the book of Acts can attest too. Many Stoics were attracted to the notion of divine decree reflecting similar ideals. Though you do have a chicken and egg sort of scenario as Judaism would claim stoicism arose from the scripture, and influence of hellenized Jews.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 05:07 PM
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Those are not real laws, they are crap some dude who was no greater than another dude wrote down. They are guide lines people can use that generally work more or less. Truth be told lots of guys that follow makavelian thought are not in fact powerful based on makavelian thought.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 04:32 PM
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I don't disagree in regards to her actions. Good points.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 03:23 PM
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It doesn't make her behavior OK... However, the seed was spilled... It was outside his body and viable for procreation. Your counter example is beyond uncomparable. If you get cut, and leave blood somewhere anyone can do anything they want with it. It's more akin to committing a crime and leaving a hair behind, how dare the police use it as evidence against you it is after all your hair. The irritation is at the audacity of the wife. However, the seed went out, he spun the chamber on the wheel a…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 03:18 PM
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Good points, the bottom line is you can't change the past. Stuff happens, whatever. You can change how you react to it, and how you handle it. You are not a lesser man for choosing the path you are on. Either way you went you'd be challenged to grow as a person. It gets very easy to keep running crap through you head and as it was pointed out, that stuff will ruin you.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 02:21 PM
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This may be a dissenting view, but he did choose ...regardless of where the seed was spilled.. Which is out of line, but the moment a man has sex he has chosen. It's Russian roulette. No sense wining about it, its like drinking and driving then lamenting when you finally get into an accident. However, this does not excuse her behavior. Towards OP, most pregnancies aren't planned ... You'll get over it if you choose to, in time. You may even be surprised once the child comes, however you need to …
/r/MarriedRedPill15/06/15 01:09 PM
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I've survived worse in a past relationship, you'll survive this. He careful of ruminating on it, gain control of your thoughts. Make clear intentional decisions.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/06/15 11:01 PM
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This is true. If you are even remotely familiar with woman porn, I.e romance (yeah right) novels, movies etc... The male lead and the female are often at odds .. He is a "A jerk" and often baits her like a child. Think about that for a second... This like porn to the average woman....
/r/MarriedRedPill14/06/15 08:05 PM
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This is it, bottom line no this is not appropriate or inline with your family values by the sound of it. Not sure about your state laws, but many places allow children in if they serve food until 9. Tell her you'd gladly bring the 2 year old in to see mommas glamorous new profession.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/06/15 06:03 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/15 05:51 PM
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I'm not sure this is true, maybe in the rare cases of marrying a virgin or near virgin. If she already has a sexual past more partners alone reduces pair bonding. If she already has a sexual past, not being her chad I would think actually would increase wandering. Hard to say I guess.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/15 04:26 PM
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The only comment I'd make here is know your wives. I think its great he called crazy crazy. For some of you be smart, if you are not at that place or your wife is more likely to escalate, use a different word to convey the same idea. Taylor, don't copy cat thinking you'll get the same results. His response to his wife's statement about him getting a free pass a crazy was priceless. Perfect shut down.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/15 03:58 PM
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Exactly, and the sooner some of these guys let it sink in, the better. The point isn't to be fear based, the point is if you ignore this reality it will be to your detriment.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 07:15 PM
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Its not framed as a FR because I'm not on the other side of the fence. I could have just posted a day in the life event, however to some of these guys they'd just say, yeah that's you... My snowflake, buttercup, princess isn't like that.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 07:12 PM
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What's missing from your AWAT comment is the phrase right now. Not all woman are that right now. They are all that, and there is no turning you do. All you can do is be the man that generates that response from her. The housewife in question may not have been like that right now. The answer is as desire amps up boundaries automatically shift. She may give you a hard no about something but another guy shed beg.... Its just true, so be that guy instead of letting someone else do it.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 06:03 PM
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Her reveal is tame, i understand your feelings but really this is nothing. Not to add insult to injury but dude, if this was she revealed there is probably way more skeletons. Dont let it get in your head, stupid crap will ruin you if you let it.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 03:33 AM
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Neither statement is correct so it doesn't matter. Why is neither correct because AWALT... All women are whores for the right guy.. Or wrong guy depending on how you look at.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 03:30 AM
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Yeah, which is kind of there and kind of not. I'd recommend MRP official stance be, its your life do it if you want. The truth is a person doesn't neccissarily become the worse for choosing the get married today, it does however have challenges. Have kids with a woman you are not married too, can screw you over pretty bad in itself. I have a friend who was completely raped by child support. It was much easier for her to pick up and run off too without having to deal with divorce.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/15 01:50 AM
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I'll take your word that your not, my main point was simply coming her for advice is not bad. However we are going to operate under AWALT... So, most of us if not all of us should be taking your comments about your husband with a grain of salt, instead of validating that "yes honey, you are the prize... Your husband sucks... Can I get your #".... Which is the way a number of posts came off. Figure out what's really important in life... Which hopefully is not material or intangible things, you co…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/15 01:56 PM
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This can be a hard pill to swallow, but it's important to see. Its a concept often ignored here even by those who know better. They maintain this"my wife is a shrew" even though things are "better" since MRP.... And then you still get a sense of angsty teen from them. Makes me think that comes off at home and poisons the well.... Basicly the wife is acting as a reflection of these things seeping in.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/15 01:50 PM
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So, the notion is. If a man becomes beta, all the relationship failures are his and not the woman's, this is typical to what wed say here in MRP. However, now a complete opportunity not to take the feminist route and actually tell a woman she is accountable for her mess is given a free pass. I don't care how you cut, this is playing towards the femine imparetive. He has to clean himself up, she can't do it for him, however she can clearly start undoing the crap she did and changing the game. The…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 07:17 PM
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So, the notion is. If a man becomes beta, all the relationship failures are his and not the woman's, this is typical to what wed say here in MRP. However, now a complete opportunity not to take the feminist route and actually tell a woman she is accountable for her mess is given a free pass. I don't care how you cut, this is playing towards the femine imparetive. He has to clean himself up, she can't do it for him, however she can clearly start undoing the crap she did and changing the game. The…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 07:17 PM
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No man is hopeless, some just require more work than anyone is willing to invest. That is the difference, nothing stated in this forum implied any such thing. All men hear or read is woman who wants sex 7-9 times a week. She could truly be a land whale, and have no personality. Odds are she played a large role in the betafication of her husband as many men on this forum well know. She needs to learn how to undo her own mess.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 04:23 PM
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Im not projecting at all. I see a woman coming to a mans forum, and talking down her husband to men. I see men responding in almost white knightish behavior, eagerly downing her husband and boosting her over sized ego. Rather than deflating it, some post have almost pedastalized this anonymous woman claiming as if she is a prize. My response is what the hell?
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 04:19 PM
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Down votes for anything that is contrary to feminist thinking.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 03:07 AM
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Not at all, just because she is successful at a career doesn't make her a winner. She maybe coming her for help, but honestly I get a sense of self centered solipism. No one here cares that she makes 200k, she talks herself above her husband. Are you truly unplugged? Seriously, this kind of crap is the problem besides the fact the trickled bits imply he wasn't always that way. He is your typical defeated male you see come onto this board. Encouraging feminist logic at the expense of another man …
/r/MarriedRedPill05/06/15 03:06 AM
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Whether he is bluepill or not is doesn't matter. This is RP, so advice should reflect that. She married the supposed loser, she is at fault for reinforcing BP ideals that helped him get here.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 02:22 PM
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You sound like you grab the reigns back too soon. You can't take credit with you when you die. If credit means more to you than the relationship, maybe you should move on. What Is Important In Life... Figure this question out first without it nothing else matters.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 01:33 AM
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BluePillProfessor has the right of it imo.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 01:30 AM
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He sounds like a product of our overly feminized society. This is still red pill, even with the marriage part added.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 01:27 AM
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In this crazy day and age people are doing just that and moving into 100 square foot homes. What is Important to you in life, this is the question!
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 01:08 AM
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The issue isn't whether she can do it effectively or not, the issue is how many women are you willing to let talk to you the way you would a man? After all you can always hit the man so long as he isn't a baby, and files assault charges. Instead most men especially in this beta ized society will retreat instead.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/06/15 01:07 AM
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Exactly!
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:25 PM
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Suitor, try more like she would become a plate.... Get ready to start spinning or find another beta.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:22 PM
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This is probably exactly it.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:12 PM
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Why trust a woman's opinion of a man? She could be the wife of any dude on here.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:11 PM
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That kind of statement coming from a woman won't read the same. As a man you should know this.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:10 PM
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Why are MRP men giving such crap advice? If the dude came here you can be all locker room, or for a man dealing with his wife sure, tough as nails. She as a woman should not be using a masculine approach, she is already acting from one enough.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:07 PM
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Do you think this would work for you? A woman should not be using methods men would use. Most men will retreat more and more.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:05 PM
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She shouldn't be giving him dead lines, this only reenforces the parent child play that's been created. Let it crash, she shoukd believe in the guy. UUse girl game, open jars and crap. Let him feel like a useful being who has value because he a man, not just a human.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:03 PM
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How long do you defer to him before you take the reigns back. Things take time, let him sink the ship, odds are he won't. He probably feels like your his mommy, not his wife.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 11:00 PM
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Why do you NEED your income? 30 to 45k can be a respectable income, people today are greedy and stupid. Your husbands sex drive is low cause he is emasculated. He is basicly a woman. Your career isn't your life, your family is. Prioritize what is important, and start defering to him and treating him like a man. Try reading the surrendered wife, don't try to make him man up. Just start deferring responsibility to him, treat him with respect. Its not rocket science, you aren't a man stop trying to…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/15 10:58 PM
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Smoking a joint certainly transformers it from lazy activity, to ubber manly. There is very little that says teenage waste other than pot + video games. I think video games are fine if kept to a rare occasion. Imo they rate worse than TV as its not just mind numbing but escapist and therefore addicting. You'd be better off following ianironwood and breaking out the scrabble with your wife or kids, etc.. That's my .02 cents, I'm with TrainingTheBrain.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/05/15 08:11 PM
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Hey cad, I don't think we are so different. The issue isn't really your wife, not that you are saying it is. The issue is you, - SocererKing called it relationship apathy, that's not a bad term. However, as I'm struggling through some of it now myself, I think the real deal is all the changes you make you lose yourself in the process of finding yourself. You don't really know who you are anymore, and with that a sort of apathy and maybe even some desire for self destruction. Maybe that doesn't r…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/05/15 02:41 PM
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I believe a lot of clarity has been added to this thread. However I will add the biggest point which was already stated, he who has the most responsibility is in the best position to call the shots. Doing things such has fetching her a glass of water a foot away from her at her request is not equal to rotating tires. Generally speaking we look for if the wife is slothful and her BP husband dances a jig for her entertainment, etc... Don't be a fool, be a man.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/05/15 09:08 PM
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There really is nothing to be angry about. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. You probably missed out on being a millionaire too, or any other thing. Missed opportunity does not equal loss, the opportunity does not generate a guarantee. Nor does it mean your life would have been happier, you are sold on the potential that your life could have been happier. You may have caught aids and died too. Who knows, why give a crap?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/04/15 02:06 AM
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Without having read all of the original post, I cannot completely comment. The issue about exposes weakness should be rejected. However, a an alpha does not require self centered or narcissism. In fact the alpha of most pack animals are quite the opposite. Truthfully around here I see more of an issue with supposed alpha behavior being equated with what is in reality an angsty teen than anything. The attitudes that a dudes wife is out to get him reminds me more of "moms always riding my case, mo…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/04/15 02:00 AM
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Thanks for permission. :) letting your guard down equals losing frame and dominance, the rest is her natural response. Take down the fence for second boundries will be tested.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/04/15 02:29 AM
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You say that all the time, its flat out untrue. I have plenty of personal experience otherwise, and I've seen it enough in other marriages. If you were correct red pill wouldn't work.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/04/15 01:33 AM
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You are one of the few that continually illustrates this view. I believe internalizing this point goes a long way for a properly dominate frame. It is the underlined dynamic in the sexual game. I remember years ago watch some ducks by a pond. A male duck began to chase a female, she ran and squawked and pushed to far. He grew tired and began minding his own business, she watched him for awhile and then came towards making a whole bunch of noise, he ignored her for a bit then turned a bit her nec…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/04/15 01:31 AM
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I believe woman only relentlessly try and grab the frame when they are not secure in the dominance and leadership of the male. However, that being said depending on how plugged into feministic rhetoric they are may also breed discontentment because it generates fear to let go of control. A surrendered woman will feel more content and at peace out of control.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/04/15 10:48 PM
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Congrats, whinemore and I have had our share of back and forth but he has always had the sub's best in mind and that of the posters. People need thicker skins and greater self awareness.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/04/15 10:42 PM
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Tell her, I want you to be clean shaved. Let her respond how she wants, be direct. If she has excuses like time, say the kids are too needy. Make the time, say Ill handle the kids you can take a nice bath. If she does make sure she knows how much you like it. Reward good behavior through pampering but don't over do it, you can by lotions, purfumes etc.. If you over do it the reward becomes an expectation. Find strings of good behavior, tie them together for reward.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/04/15 10:25 PM
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The only thing I'd add to this solid post is always be learning. Make learning a life long pursuit. Do not allow yourself to be pushed into the mold of the bumbling male. You are educated, and refined, you are a troubleshooter, and problem solver, if you don't have the answers you find them.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/04/15 01:56 PM
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Science has achieved very little, what has achieved much is people and perseverance. Most great achievements have have come about by trial and error, science comes along in the end to try and give an explanation to the result.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/04/15 05:36 PM
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You are lazy, this is the issue. You are looking for the path of least resistance. "I made a mess and its too much to clean up". This is more pathetic than the sock. Its normal within male desire to be drawn to the idea of attracting other women, however it seems you want to justify acting on it because of your wife. Woman are work, whether you are married to them or not. You are fooling yourself that it won't take work to have lots of shallow meaningless sex with random women. Clean up your mes…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/04/15 04:39 PM
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Do you really care about how the room is arranged? If so then stick to your guns, you are both believers so she needs to recognize your headship. Her being head strong or a lawyer are moot. If you really don't care, why mess with it? Tell her a better response was for her to ask you if it could be returned to its previous state, instead of exploding over an easily rememdied situation, which is behavior neither becoming of Christ like character or a wife.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/04/15 04:21 PM
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I'm with TheBrain, I will give 200% for a project, and I'll be one of the first to volunteer, sure, I'll ask for extra work or responsibility, but I also say no. I also speak out directly. Sometimes it shoots me in the foot, sometimes it plays in my favor, but I'm going to be direct and set boundaries for my own peace of mind and people will respect you for it.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/04/15 08:56 PM
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I basically agree with thecad. Your anger may shift to yourself, it should if you become honest. Its your fault you put up with it, own your failure. Then it becomes easier as you realize you probably had no solid male examples to look to so you were ignorant. Ignorance does not excuse or remove fault, but it does ease the mind but not the burden. The burden now becomes turning into a man and accepting all the responsibilities that come with that.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/04/15 04:09 PM
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That sounds wise, because I'm not sure what the heck happened to this place while I was away. Massive influx of new subscribers I suppose.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/04/15 12:51 PM
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This is a topic I try to regularly teach men. Let me add some thoughts, did you know your wife wanted to be part, and is there a reason you didn't want her? If I were you and you know she likes this stuff, I'd told her I'm going to the store, this is what I'm doing do you want to come.. That's it, if she does great if not great. Now, if you have reasons not to, great otherwise its not less alpha to invite her along. Your wife is pecking at you because of what she sees as a weak display, that is …
/r/MarriedRedPill25/03/15 05:39 PM
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I get told I never apologize frequently. Its not true, its a judgment on her part, you need to self examine to see if she has a valid point. If you can see where an apology was warranted and you missed, apologize. However, know this... To a woman an apology after she has had to ask for is never really accepted, except perhaps in a comfort test. So, apologize on your terms, not hers.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/03/15 03:56 PM
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On another separate point, I don't agree that a wife would only marry for alpha traits, this is the beta bucks side. She marries the beta for comfort and security, finds out he is hardly a man and guess what? Fitness tests ensue to the point of completely crippling the guy if he continues to fail and he ends up being another of her children, or divorce.... But according to the above there is no connection, she was only carrying g out her life's purpose to crush men.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/03/15 03:01 PM
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I disagree again. Pairing used to be controlled in many societies, especially among the wealthy. In this instances many men aka fathers or guardians tried to do the same as much as the woman. This will skew any supposed data prior to modern history and open female controlled hypergamy, that aside its pretty irrelevant. We are talking intent here, and the truth is even a low smv can find some alpha to step out on her marriage on. You are proposing your wife's sole goal is to tear you down, this i…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/03/15 02:50 PM
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I don't agree. This is part of the problem I see time and again here. Its not your wife's desire to make you into another child, if she succeeds she will resent you. Ergo it is then her desire for you be a man. Every fitness tested is geared for it, I'll give you a little secret, your wife most likely in her inner being wants you to pass them. If she has to out right tell you, which some do, then its a fail... Its hard for a woman to respect a man she had to tell how to be one. Its an immature v…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/03/15 06:02 PM
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I dont agree this is her goal. I believe this is only the end result of failing to be a man. In her head concious or not, its an every day fight to see if you are the most worthy man for her to carry on your seed. She is the seed bearer, why would she want to carry on a weak, effimenate, pansy seed?
/r/MarriedRedPill18/03/15 01:24 AM
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Hah, too simplified to respond to. I'm really not into framing men and women into adversarial positions. While there is a bit of predator\prey dynamic, and having the mind set you suppose has benefits in regards to sex. That being said my wife is not my opponent, she is my help. Sometimes her help comes in a form I dont like because it causes me to be honest with my self as I cant always see my actions from the outside. This doesnt mean I buy into her frame, and her analysis, it does mean I take…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/03/15 01:18 AM
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I understand the point here, especially in light of targeting sex specifically... In general terms I'll have to think if I agree or not. With this mindset I might say, if a wife is an opponent in the game of sex many want you to win, but some do not. The degree to which they want you to win depends on if you are a star player or not. Some play to lose, they just like it better that way.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/03/15 11:51 PM
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I'd agree with you if that's all I wrote. Strategos nails it below. Look, fitness tests are her way of feeling you out. You are taking them too seriously, and personalizing them like she is revealing what she thinks. She isn't. She is revealing what she feels based on her response to you. You may be improving in many areas of life, but evidently she isn't convinced. However, even if she is, they are in fact a part of the female mating ritual. And, woman are not the only ones that do it you'll ge…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/03/15 11:38 PM
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You want the tests to stop? This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. When will dudes learn these are a response to you. You want them to reduce in freqencey and magnituted? Then be a man worthy of respect, set boundries, and expectations. If you want them to stop, period you`ve just asked her to stop being a woman. Perphaps you should think about your sexual orientation. We all loathe them at one point or another, and it comes from a point of weakness, slothe, and self denial.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/03/15 08:07 PM
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I havnt had much time for this stuff lately. however I felt compelled to comment here, this original post is full of the boogeyman I speak of. Im a father that has excercised rights over my children in the usa..... sometimes the RedPill spins its own myths and changes frame into an alternate reality based on half truths. I know exceptions do not become the rule, but there are others like me as well. There are a number of factors to relate, most of them deal with the laziness of the typical male …
/r/MarriedRedPill13/03/15 08:26 PM
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I agree with you. My only point was, I do think we can give some slack in that its harder for some then others. I'm not about making excuses for others, just having some understanding. I agree with being direct, it saves a lot of time.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/03/15 12:30 AM
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My two biggest issues with the main sub are 1) too much whining/chasing shadows vis. Divorce rape posts, angry posts, etc... These are not posts about the individuals experience they instead tend to be reposts of the divorces of actors, millionaires, etc. .. These don't phase me, a millionaire that loses half is still a millionaire. The dude making 30k who pays 12k a year in support, that's rape... Anyway, while still informative they create a boogyman out of all sorts of things. Issue 2) is the…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/03/15 06:10 PM
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Its a note worthy fear, however I think some slack is OK. Really, I'm with both of you but yet a lot of guys dont have any role models or examples. The truth is not every man is a mold breaker on his own, some are leaders in there own spheres and followers in the larger spheres. There are many alphas that fall in line to a stronger alpha when he comes on the scene. Still, calling out lazynes... Ya, its spot on, so don't think I'm trying to create disagreement on that front.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/03/15 05:50 PM
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I agree. My approach is somewhat opposite. We try to ensure they have a variety of skills, but we teach them primarily as a support fashion. We teach them service, and its OK to be taken care of. Submission, and following the lead. If they do not get married, they are prepared to serve out whatever God has or them. There girl game will be far above the crowd.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/03/15 11:22 PM
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I don't agree about the move in shift. It may happen, but its highly unlikely. The truth is your kids will play you, don't be an idiot for their tactics. The kids will likely always favor the under performing parent. If you begin to improve above your wife, they will see it as an underdog situation. Your kids will tell you crap that goes on to start stuff, honestly they probably won't want things amiciable between you and your ex because it plays to their favor. They may say they do but watch ac…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/03/15 11:12 PM
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Heh, yeah... This is the sum of it. Sadly, I'm not sure most of the male population raised by single mothers, or BP dads know what that means. I think they associate it with just having boobs or maybe wearing a skirt once in awhile.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/03/15 02:03 PM
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It depends on how you define modern. Polygyny certainly was the common practice in early cultures, specifically eastern cultures, yet even in polygyny plenty of men only had one wife... Ancient cultures were not generally full of men with harems, usually it was the more wealthy in these situations. You didn't have a cobbler with three wives, and 30 kids...
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/15 01:43 AM
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She's on the decline, you are on the rise. She is going to be sure that you'll ditch her at a moments notice. So, she is planing on being preemptive. I'm not sure if you really want to keep this relationship, but my guess is you are failing comfort tests.... Not enough info.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/15 01:34 AM
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I'm not sure how many guys here have actually been divorced. I've not seen many identify themselves. This is why divorce with kids sucks, dudes don't have a clue what you are going through. They say a lot of stupid crap because its RP and clever. Talk is cheap and words are wind. This is why unless there is adultery at play, I try to recommend fixing things if kids are involved. So, here is what I'm going to tell you. Prepare for the suck. Look at it hard and long in the face, get personally acq…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/15 01:22 AM
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I'm right there with so much of what you said. Also, I'm not into raising my daughters to be someone's plate. I can't stop it, but there is s lot I can do to decrease the chances. I'd rather see them become nuns then end up with some of the guys over in TRP. I'm going to do my best to raise unicorns, so I expect men to raise sons worthy, not to put them on pedestals but to treat them well.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/02/15 10:03 PM
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You are, you are a man of standards and a man with a plan. You illustrate it in all your posts. Lots of these guys are not so minded, and there blue pill conditioning has not even geared them to sorting out life and family the way you have. The post isn't about using RP techniques to respond to issues, the point is to eliminate the issues before hand by actually being a leader. So, your wife is the most responsible teenager, or FO... OK, well and good. I don't expect to take my daughter to baby …
/r/MarriedRedPill27/02/15 07:37 PM
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Sure, that's not really my point. There is an expectation that once a person alphas up, and the wife follows then things magically sort themselves out naturally. Yet, you see RP men still dealing with Fitness tests over what can be seen as trivial things, now women won't ever stop. My point I've tried to communicate several times on this sub is, if you don't ever spell things out or have a clear view in your head and a way to communicate those expectations, this is part of your problem. Its easy…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/02/15 07:11 PM
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How much is too much? You have to decide for yourself, but ultimately I say when the ship sinks. Its difficult to suddenly realize you are on a sinking vessel, its a rare moment of sobreity where the rum is gone, and you are forced to wake up and see the neglect that's gone on has caused a lot of damage. First reaction comes from fight or flight... Its too far gone, too much work, too much of a challenge, let me look for the nearest egress. Reboot, and start over, that will be much easier. The i…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/02/15 04:23 PM
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Im with BluepillProffessor, for the reason is you say you need to fix you - well part of that is tied up in your marriage. You may feel like this is an Alpha move but basically it's a dodge. The greatest mirror you could face is the one you spent 7 years avoiding. Imo though others won't agree is, you are basically walking away from a mess you made because you dont want to deal with it. This has beta views all over it. At least fix you, fix the dynamic and if she doesn't like it, she can leave. …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/02/15 07:18 PM
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Then it only goes up from here. Be encouraged, figure out you. What you are comfortable with, how you see the relationship. Do you care she is a strong feminist? I'm not trying to be little you. Her telling you to knock it off is a test of your compliance, it shows she isn't taking you seriously. Unless if course she is saying it in a joking way and maybe with an arm punch.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/02/15 10:11 PM
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They do, but remember toddlers grow up. So, deal with life in stages...understand things ebb and flow. Find peace in that, but don't use it as an excuse to let things drop. Make it work when you can but remain outcome independent when you can't.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/02/15 04:16 PM
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A strong feminist woman is a woman imitating masculinity.... Its a woman out of touch with feminity. The cure is to be a stronger man then her. Right now as much as it may hurt to hear it, she obviously feels more of a man then you. I'd ask her what is the goal of her feminist beliefs? If she says equal rights that's a load of crap. What are women really bared from today? If its quibbling about pay, that's garbage too... If anything has oppressed women its women, or you could put it this way. Ei…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/02/15 01:37 AM
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I dont talk RP specifics at this time, but I'm not afraid to. Its like illusions, even when most people know how they work, they still fall for it. However, don't take that too literally, I'm not trying to compare theory to parlor tricks. However, I am pretty open about my views on feminism and social dynamics, gender roles etc.. I get irritated when men arnt open on these topics but I understand it as at times I do it myself. My wife is what many would call an RPW, and as such openly admits to …
/r/MarriedRedPill21/02/15 11:57 PM
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You do need time for yourself sure, however let me say things are situational. Not everything is binary as is sometimes proposed. You are home 3 hours typically a day after work plus sleep. This already creates time or separation between you and your wife. If you need to though you can just take the young ones with you, go to the library or a McDonalds that has a play place even if you don't eat the food. You can use days off for your time, which can even be an hour, etc.. Then use your primary …
/r/MarriedRedPill21/02/15 11:48 PM
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You know the best way deal with it? Is when they hold it over your head ignore it, be unaffected by it. When neccisary remind them they choose to do it, perhaps on a nuclear level. AWALT, some women have learned to control voicing these records, and making a deal about them.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 08:46 PM
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People have a hard time accepting what you just said. Men are highly insecure inwardly. Outwardly, we can display to the world how awesome we think we are. By definition we become vulernable to our wives because they see us 24\7 we can't hide. So, they can attack all of our weaknesses, and we are babies. We cry about it like on the playground as if we are being picked on by the bully. Its hard, but we must create a thick skin, we must embrace the cutting, biting, soul taring remarks and unwrap t…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 06:50 PM
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Ya, which could be true. I would not want a sahm sitting around eating bon bons, painting her nails and gossiping on Facebook all day.... That would be a recipe for disaster... This would bread a huge lack of contentment, most woman would feel more content being of use, or valued as productive.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 06:42 PM
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Cathartic to you, but generating insecurity in her. Tell them to another man, friend or dad. Talk them aloud to yourself in the car by yourself.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 06:40 PM
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Also, there is more I should add about fixing things. Unless she is highly attracted to you ATM, and you are not seeking validation but displaying your own awesomeness, don't drag her to the stuff you fixed like a dog seeking a treat. Either say you are going to fix it, do it and be silent until she notices, or just fix it and say nothing. She may or may not notice - you fixed it because you are a man and that's what you do, either because you said you would or out of your own sense of responsib…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 06:35 PM
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This reply here about lists of things to do is excellent. Look, she probably is bored, and she is a woman so she is a covert communicator, its probably ultimately not really about the house... Yet it is about the house. You see, its not about the amount of progress its the lack of a plan and progress. She is unsure of your leadership, have you said you'd do things that you haven't done? Its time to start figuring some of that out, and a way to do it... Heck fixing the loose door knob on the hall…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/02/15 06:25 PM
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This is good advice in many circumstances. My caveat with this route is if it's not a time issue for her, then by doing this you are freeing up more time to be filled with what? Typically speaking, if she is a quality woman, then she will derive pleasure for doing something she knows pleases you. Its really situational. Which deals with her attraction to you, which is tied to her submission to you, and respect.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/02/15 08:26 PM
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Being Alpha doesn't mean you can't cuddle your wife. Now, the taking care of you part.... Really depends on what you mean... Like mommy you? Or do you mean, let her give you a back rub or make your lunch.. Its not BP to allow her to do stuff for you, it is to create covert contracts about it. Some of the things are girl game. The issue is to not create the notion that you can't do these things SO she has to, like mommy and child. You are letting her do things for you, or telling her to. World of…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/02/15 03:29 PM
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Ya, the truth is people rarely get what they expect. Expectations are great and all, but as the song goes you can't always get what you want. The issue is they need to learn this, and entitlement society keeps telling them the world is there oyster.. They can have it all, they are free to choose and not sacrifice... What a ignorant illusion. Men expect blow jobs as the sun as well, perhaps a trade agreement can be arranged.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/02/15 03:13 PM
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No, you do not ever get a day off, or well you do... Just understand when you take it, its more work when you come back. Its just like the modern job market. As to the Soul mate, well.... The red pill often attacks this, and really its irrelevant... Your wife could be "the One", the issue is it doesn't matter if she doesn't act the part. The issue is being " the One" is no reason to pull out the pedestal. The other aspect did you really want an equal partner? And what the heck did equal mean to …
/r/MarriedRedPill18/02/15 03:08 PM
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EThis rules out a lack of time, then the next step is to figure out just how important it is to you. You have your fall back option for you, but it doesn't help the problem it bypasses it. You need to let her know in as few words as possible that its an issue. "I know its not a priority for you to have laundry done and put away, but it is for me." "I would appreciate it if you moved this up your priority list" the only other aspect worth explaining is maybe how it frees up time when you are both…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 11:23 PM
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Laundry for that size house is a lot of work. The 2 year old might have multiple clothing changes a day. One thing you can do is help at times because you want to help, and not generate an expectation they your help here is a guarantee. A lot of this has to do with time management perhaps. A lot more info is needed does she cook all the meals, and if so are these largely from scratch? Do the kids attend school outside of the home, etc... Taking the step to get your own basket is a good basic sol…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 09:29 PM
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Thank you, I'll take that correction. My main point was meant to be along the lines, woman don't want men, that other women don't want. Approval of her selection in the form of desire from other woman illustrates this. Then of course as you said makes her enter the competition.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 08:43 PM
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I replied to this in a early post in an attempt to connect the two. I hope this isn't confusing.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 08:33 PM
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This is the problem, this is whiney beyond belief. I'm not giving your wife a free pass I'm saying your still crying about how she treated you, like it was unfair!!!! Dude, she was doing you a favor.... Would you have rather stayed that way for the rest of your life? Do you think you would have gotten here by chance? My wife has at times delt some low blows sure, but I haven't been an angel the whole time either. However, without question she has pushed me to be a better man, not always in the w…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 08:30 PM
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Dread is OK during pregenacy depending upon the level. Withholding affection, or your gym routine, etc.. Can produce light dread. This generally speaking isn't the time to tell her your hot new female coworker wants to have coffee with you to pick your brain.... Things that directly speak to relationship trouble. Light dread is more along the lines of feeding the hamster, you comfort when you need to comfort, but allowing things to not be predictable which causes a degree of tension that helps k…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 08:20 PM
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So he at least gets sex along with his crazy. Truly, you can just be blunt around him. Ask him where his balls are, in your SIL purse? Tell him he might want to keep tabs on them in case one day he decided he wants them back. Be direct on your views of men and women dynamics. Let him know he is being walked on, etc... There are a number of ways to slowly get his attention, and his responses will give you a guage on whether he is playing a white knight, etc...
/r/MarriedRedPill17/02/15 01:20 AM
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You might respect it but I don't, however that should have little baring on the OP. I'm going to be direct towards OP, this is from a completely weak frame. Others have said it, there is a lack of owning why this has occurred. Not a lot of personal accountability, for starters you are blaming her for choices you made. You are blaming her because you ALLOWED her to treat you that way. Grow UP!!!! Get over it, stop being a child.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 09:49 PM
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And the world is now a better place.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 08:34 PM
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My response to this is, it's not about fair. The two people got married, made an agreement. If they were stupid enough to think it would stay the same forever that's their own fault. Now a man is learning what it means to be a man, and she may not have concisously understood it, but her crap was geared towards helping that. This man now needs balls of steal and has to be a man above men to show her how strong he is, she may shrink back from this especially due to social conditioning, let her be …
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 05:34 PM
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Same here.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 05:22 PM
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I'll say what you are saying is immature. You have a skewed view, you incorrectly believe she treated you poorly because she despised you. No, she despised you because you didn't respond to her attempts to get you to be a freaking man. She was communicating on a different wave length... Her crumby treatment was wired as a challenge to your masculinity which you failed, making her think she made a bad choice and was wrong to hang herself to you. These are the dynamics at play, women always think …
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 05:21 PM
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My brother does this, and I cringe....
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 05:13 PM
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This is it! As said above too, she needs assurance she made a good choice. That assurance doesn't come simply by your personal affirmation, but by seeing other woman agree by displaying sexual attraction. Not by words, saying you have such a great beta, I wish my husband was as beta as yours.... Cause the truth is, they dont!
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 05:11 PM
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I didnt know of TrueChristian, that's a forum name that almost begs for a dose of reality. I'm not sure what they stand for, but might be worth finding out. As to sending letters to pastors, I've been thrown out of a few churches that way, letters, phone conversations and face to face end badly. These guys don't want the truth, let me give you some insight. If this is evangelical Christianity we are talking about, these guys make there own empires and become financially dependent on their congre…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 04:03 PM
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The above posts by BluePillProffessor and TrainigTheBrain both nail so much of what has drawn me here. Yes, I have my own personal story and struggles which were in part reasons for being here. The other part is the growth of men and reclaiming lost ground. Men taking responsibility instead of being lame, weak victims.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/15 03:50 PM
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Thank you. I had a lengthy reply to spout out more, but I decline ATM.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/02/15 02:28 AM
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It gets even better when you realize you don't need to be happy. Its not the ultimate quest in life. In fact the pursuit of happiness drives people insane. If there was one state of being I'd promote, it'd be contentment.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/02/15 02:08 AM
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Very well then, ignore me.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 08:22 PM
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You have to be careful with how vulnerable you are and what you say. I continue to learn this and I tend to be the type that plays things close to my chest! Just remember to reframe this, she is a mirror. She's calling you out and it sucks, its usually done in a digging way cause she knows your buttons.. You want her then to play fair...the reality is rather then be hurt by it, use the irritation to do. Take care of the 1\4th either yourself or someone else. She'll then move onto something else …
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 08:15 PM
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I said only somewhat disagree, that is that you'll find happiness within yourself, and by doing things. That's the only part, and perhaps we are really just saying the same thing as you mean, that its your responsibility to be happy or not?
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 08:05 PM
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This is perfect, why? Because you didnt just hand it over because she's more capable, you are using the challenge to grow. She's your help, you can learn from her. Guys should prick this crap up, this doesn't mean don't ever delegate when she is better, but her being better isn't an excuse for you to be lazy.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 07:01 PM
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Here is were I somewhat disagree. Happiness is a state of being and has nothing to do with what you do. I've know homeless people who did not enjoy being homeless but embraced life and were quite happy. So, while I wouldn't say you'll find happiness in marriage I will say you won't find it in yourself either. You may do things that bring you joy, and a small portion of self centeredness is healthy, but you'll find happiness when you choose to be happy. However, screw happiness.. Embrace it when …
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 06:56 PM
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I won't go into benefits of marriage as they deal with an antiquated belief system. However, I will say RP tends to treat divorce like the boogyman, and understandably to a degree as it sucks. Personally, if someone doesn't prescribe to an antiquated belief system I think its indifferent. Do or don't, understand what you are getting into but don't be affraid. People need to drop the romantic notions of marriage. RP attacks the idea of soulmates, etc.. This is not even the issue, your wife or fia…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 06:50 PM
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Seeing your edit I'd like to add that while I appreciate your goals, and once thought much the same, I think you'll find it does not work in practice. Teaching to seek truth, and explore curiosity is one thing. Expecting children to know what's best for themselves, or to govern themselves, or even determine what they believe will only create a mess. Woman and children are much the same, you have to direct it, you have to be concrete, you are the model they will follow. You teach what you believe…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 02:34 PM
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Some may say don't get married, you may be surprised here rather than on the RP some will say do get married if you WANT to. The deal is you are not married yet, so this is actually a great time.. BECAUSE you can now set the tone going into the marriage, you can spell out how the marriage is going to work and how being divorced you don't fear doing so again. If she doesn't want to marry this you, then fine... Someone else will. As to your job, if you enjoy it then stay. Do the best job you can d…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 02:18 PM
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Well, it should be an option IMO, just not one you want excerise right now. Take that for what its worth. Understand you are putting things in other people's control that you have no clue what they are actually doing. I will say that it is a misconception that schooling at home would not expose them to other cultures or ways of thinking. It could do that, but if it didnt then that would be on you as the educator. The biggest issue would be what is the greater concern, institutionalized socializa…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/02/15 06:41 PM
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I'm an advocate (homeschooling), people eschew so much responsibility these days and whine about the results. I also agree that its not blue pill to teach respectful conduct. Actually one of the greatest aspects of being a man is subduing your environment. This includes your impulses, passions, etc.. By this I do not mean repressing, but taking control of them instead of them ruling over you. As men we shape society, women should be upholding the manners and values we set. We have allowed this t…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/02/15 05:40 PM
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Id just say stay in part time preschool, I'm not big on institutionalized education though, and have her deal with the kiddo until you get off. She can suck it up, what is her part time job? Here is the thing, the kid will GROW UP, this is not forEVER. So, she sucks it up for a time. You help when you can. Or come home early some days, when you know it works best. I don't imagine she is doing brain surgery, how many hours does she work? Isn't this part time. She'll get mad, but she'll get over i…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/02/15 02:00 AM
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This is the key identifier if you choose to communicate with her directly. "If you love me, you'll keep my commandments." In other words, "I know this is not a priority for you, but it is for me. I would appreciate it if...."
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 08:01 PM
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There is whole nuclear option, but this is a last resort. It has fallout for sure, and that is announce that you are going to clean up, and that you'll do it by throwing out anything that's not yours that isn't where its supposed to be. Dishes, everybody has one plate, bowl, cup, set of silverware and they are responsible for cleaning there own. Everything else if its not cleaned up goes in the trash, even the heirloom China, kids toys, etc.. This of course takes follow through. The issue seems …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 07:57 PM
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Well there are two primary options id layout. For the first I'd say be concurrent. Inform here that you realized that you have let the ball drop on the outside and you intend to remedy it, bring up your agreement and without saying she is failing state that you both can improve on this agreement. Then you step up. Option two is, you fix your end and give sometime and see if she follows your lead, but here is the thing. You should go overboard a little on your end, get into details. Even if its a…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 07:49 PM
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Actually feminism at its core make talk about differences but it doesn't truly acknowledge them and at times outright ignores them. They say "I can do ANYTHING you can do, and BETTER" . A woman can do ANYTHING a man can do, one might take this figuratively or as hyperbole however, they do not. Right down to having kids without the direct aid of a man.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 06:38 PM
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You want to enable her to get to where you are. So, does she every say its hard to keep up because the toddler trashes everything? I'll give a tip from my wife, typically she waits for about an hour before I come home and then straightens up, this isn't like laundry, or deeper cleaning. This like vacuuming, kids toys, etc.. So there is less time for destruction, she can focus on dishes or laundry etc.. earlier, that way kiddo is less likely the wreck that stuff. You might be able to advise her t…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 06:29 PM
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I fall on the disorder side. Understand that while you set the standard, you may set it too high a bar. Think about if you are communicating things in a overly critical way. Next keep your standard high for you, and the space in general yet do not expect her to reach it immediately. Find ways that work for her to help get these things done, whether it be organizers for say laundry or whatever. Most women work well with rules, maybe she might need you to help her create a schedule for these tasks…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 02:49 PM
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None taken, I have a thick skin. There was a fair bit of chatter at this time, mainly resulting from BP trolls about woman being equal, and those saying they are not. My point was I don't have an issue with it depending on what you mean. Such as an ambassador represents a nation, speaks for the nation etc.. In this sense they are equal to the nation yet only have the authority delegated to them. In this way my wife and family really are an extension of this. Equal but not the same as. Men and wo…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 02:38 PM
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You'll have to find the right balance, but the issue is your need to initiate as others have said. With that situation its tough, that's pretty exhausting to have sleep disrupted. However, if you feel guilt over iniating because of her drop of interest and maybe guilt because she is tired she will likely see it as a lack attraction. Its OK to not be on her every second during this period, but find ways and time to isolate, instigate and initiate. Bottom line is, its not beta to give her space to…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 02:28 PM
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Remind him then that as Christians he should be challenged outside of his comfort zone, I think that's still a message banded around on Sundays. Your description of him sounds like he may be put off by excersise based on a misconceived notion of being a meat head. His body is a temple, could go some distance. Also being a good steward.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/02/15 08:07 PM
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I don't deal with the much, my faith isolates me to a degree. Most traditional Christians flee from me as they see me as a legalist because I actually follow the bible. That's a sure fire way to tick Christians off. I have a few guys I can relate to in my congregation as were are mostly on the same page as netzari. I would look out for guys who are truly dedicated to their faith.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/02/15 07:38 PM
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Bad sex comes in a variety of forms. Looks like solid advice around, if your talking just duty sex, you should turn it down once in awhile. Its not normally like this for me, but recently I had a situation where I initiated and she was tired, so she said "I'm tired can you just get it over with" .... This is not normal, I just looked at her and without missing a beat stated... No thanks, I'll wait for another time, I'd rather enjoy it. Kissed her forehead and rolled over to sleep. It only took m…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/02/15 07:21 PM
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As they say patience is a virtue. I can sympathize completely, I'm dealing with a similar issue. It will pass, months go by quickly, nevertheless keep initiating as frequently as needed. Don't allow it to become a power shift, withdraw when neccissary and utilize the time to keep working on you. Is the child in a separate room or cosleeping? How old?
/r/MarriedRedPill05/02/15 07:02 PM
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Who else is going to fix this cesspool? Raise them up in the way they should go, they may hate you for it today, but as they get older they'll understand. Rather than complain about the problem, I choose to be a solution to it. The only way abstaining from kids will help is if it is done by everyone, and the whole species dies off. Too many guys want to whine about feminism and the way things are, etc.. and they think spinning plates is going to help. Well, its good for short sighted gains. It'l…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/15 12:52 AM
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Are you referring to the main context? If so, after rereading I do see a few issues. Its called a lack of proof reading and autocorrect. Though ESL makes for a convient excuse. Its dropped off the attention span of the sub, otherwise I'd correct it.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/02/15 08:30 PM
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I want to further expand my point. Modern society holds the entitlement of woman, since children are a byproduct of woman and the reason that they have intrinsic value it goes that woman ensure that children are entitled as well. Men and father's are nitwits and incompetents, having only the value they can display by their work. Entitled children and the resources that go into feeding that machine is what drains the joy (not the only reason, but a primary one) of having them. There certainly oth…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/02/15 08:21 PM
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I'm not impressed by your link. Nor by many studies that are hard to quantify, as you are dealing with a wide range of cultuter and beliefs. I'm not rationalizing, I have nothing to prove to you are anybody else. I know parents who are miserable, and I know people without kids that are miserable. Neither a lack of kids nor surplus of kids are a key to happiness. Much of modern society can be said to be at fault for killing the joy of kids. That makes it a relative issue, not an empirical absolut…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/02/15 03:22 PM
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It depends on how you define better. I have 8 kids of all ranges, kids are expensive but so is anything else in life. Most people waste much of their income, or live in debt and beyond there means. Ivebeencaught laid out a pretty solid counter post.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/02/15 04:22 AM
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I've read most of those articles, I say be a critical thinker and take it for what its worth. Much of this can be presented a truth, but it comes from the mind of a man. There are alot of amazing observations, and studies, lots to consider but apply the brain your given and check things out for yourself. Don't look to a man who you think has it already figured out, you will likely be disappointed.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 08:50 PM
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That's not my primary. Your response ignored the question, use condoms etc.. Is evasive. That's expecting they work, that's also expecting that your wife will play by the same rules, or your plates will. This all proposes best case scenarios, plan for the worst case and you'll be better off. I don't expect you to agree with me, but I think its a poor long term strategy. As I said, I think a much better case can be made for the polygamous route which is a more stable model. If she gets pregenant,…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 07:53 PM
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I wasn't going to post here, as I wanted to keep my personal bias out of it. I will say I agree with Isolos that its playing with fire. My first marriage wasn't open, but it may as well have been. There are too many dynamics at play, and it can take sometime maybe even a decade or so, but it usually blows up. I've seen it, what is the gain in keeping the marriage? I could understand a polygamous concept here, but I don't understand the value of the marriage arrangement in this situation. Is she …
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 07:07 PM
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I'm in favor of the walking out as well. Maybe not overnight, but as long as you need. You strip her power out if the deal. The jail response is a pretty nuclear option, I'd be curious to hear from someone in actually did jus that.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 05:28 PM
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Yes, as a leader you have to know where people stand, and there capabilities. You also need to learn how to recognize potential, and how to draw it out of people. Your definitely right on about equal division of labor does not produce equal results. There is a lot that goes into some generalizations, and it certainly requires knowing your wife. Its easy as a man to say, she takes care of the house and while she may do a good job, she maybe inwardly a bit of a mess because she isn't sure your pri…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 03:54 PM
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Yes, this is how it often works. We have a lot of natural things we gravitate towards, and some spelled out. However, there is much we've never spelled out and clarified. The issue is mine, I struggle with expending the energy to handle things outright at times, some would call that being intentional. I'm growing in this area, I used to have a lot of resentment toward having to make a lot of decisions or things falling on me. Now, I've come to embrace it as a privelage of being a male, or maybe …
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 02:36 PM
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Exactly, she can have her role fed. She brings it to you, you have your role fed. The feeding of this roles will exponentially go towards not falling into complacency and aiding in the long term game. As a leader, we need to incorporate it into our mindset. Maybe a guys wife isn't good at that, maybe her only skill is the kids.. Well that alone helps, but with time and effort a good leader would hopefully be able to help her to grow beyond that.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 02:31 PM
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Yes, woman thrive in an environment that they know the boundaries,like children. I'm trying to find out about the men here and if they are even at stages approaching this and how the are handling. Yours is an excellent post. A lot of unhappy wives once they find their husband a leader, will be happier once they get a clearer picture of where they fit in. It maybe my biblical perspective but a wife has been designed to be a help to you. In the RP mindset it can very quickly devolve into her worth…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 02:26 PM
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The bible has an endorsed form in dread that comes during a women's menstration, touch is with held, etc... During nidah in orthodox Jewish circles men and woman do not sleep in the same bed. Granted the Rabbis have distorted a number of things with in this context and its beyond the scope of this thread to deal with it it's there none the less.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 02:13 PM
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So knowing that where does she fit in? Is she just a foreskin, or does she have a use? Sex sure, but where does she benefit the relationship? Where can she help you to achieve. This is where the notion that fitness tests are not a bad thing, but are motivators to keep you from being too comfortable and stagnating. Yet is there more than that, if she respects you as a leader, do you communicate expectations?
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 02:23 AM
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I would just tell her you would like her to stop taking it. I wouldn't put a lot of preasure on it. Just share your desire, answer the questions that follow as needed but don't turn into a huge deal. Once she knows you want her off, the hamster will go to work. She'll know why.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 01:42 AM
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Yes, this is true. I'm realizing more and more I get a lot of comfort tests more than fitness.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 01:21 AM
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TRP is about owning your mistakes. A lot of this just sounds like you don't want to take responsibility. Before you spin plates, consider just how OK you are if she does the same. Really it just seems like laying it out in away to get validation and encouragement to have an affair. The penalty for marrying someone you are not attracted to might just be losing half. Or stay and try to find away to make it work.
/r/MarriedRedPill30/01/15 01:16 AM
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Its good to hear. The institution called the "church" has become a pupit for feminism. The bible at its core is as RP as anything, heck it even advised that sexual denial opens the door for adultery. You may find some here somewhat hostile towards mentioning your faith, but I don't understand the issue as with some of the pseudoscience and evolutionary talk, I just ignore. Its encouraging to see men waking up.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 11:50 PM
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Yes, its a process. In the past few months in particular I've seen marked improvements and response, it had been years since she has surprised me at the door, or that we've showered together even. The idea that women are mirrors I think is true. We create the situation and get upset about it, when we are also the solution to the problem if we can stomach it enough to face ourselves. Congratulations, and stay the course.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 11:20 PM
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Yes, this is inline with my notion. She independlty took action? Yet, she brought it to you. This is way different than she just tells you what she did and how much she spent.... Etc.. Etc... Is this a natural role, or do you communicate that at any level? My wife is extremely capable in many ways, she is a details person, this is the sort of thing she would do. Edit: just wanted to add on your last part about blame. My wife does enjoy the aspect above all, she dodges fault because it was my dec…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 11:07 PM
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It deals with an aspect people generally don't think about to marriage. If two people get together and "fall in love" get married and try doing life together but never address dynamics of a relationship from a practical stand point... No wonder there are problems?!? Let's maybe clarify, RP sentiments are, figure your stuff out. Improve your smv, etc.. So you start working hard and maneuvering your self in your career. RP sentiments are if she wants she can come along for the ride. Now, say you n…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 10:58 PM
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Sound advice. Its the baby steps to breaking bad habits. Internal resolve is crucial. My inner resolve is as much or more important than the process I use to get there.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 08:55 PM
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By way of the Catholic church protestants have adopted many peculiar notions about sex that are not founded in scripture. It also doesn't help that modern redefinitions of words add to confusion. Such as sodomy isn't anal sex period, it is a man sleeping with a man as a woman. The issue becomes apparent... If a man lies with a MAN as a woman... Then the creator doesn't have an issue with anal sex. If you missed it, take a second to process that. If she trusts you as a spiritual leader there is a…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 07:27 PM
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It doesn't determine it. You are implying a breech of trust, like its a guarded secret. This isn't a security breech, if this was confidential information that's a different story. He isn't passing out info about the stupid stuff she did in highschool that she doesn't want anyone to know. I understand the principal as to sharing too many explicit details, if that's the offense, but a breach of trust I think is a stretch. He was one of the present parties.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 07:18 PM
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This ignores the notion that his wife probably told all of her female friends openly about this event.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 06:40 PM
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You've mentioned the issues with her not responding to your fantasies before. I know you are both believers, can you elaborate more on that? Such as denomination history, particularly current if any and hers growing up? This could be the source for that.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/01/15 06:39 PM
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Not of which matters until the pain of staying the same increases of the pain of change.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/01/15 03:27 PM
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She's a woman, she doesn't know what she wants
/r/MarriedRedPill28/01/15 08:00 AM
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Not much of what you posted relates here. Do you even want anything to improve? You don't want a better sex life, you don't want your wife or even your kid? You just want to be a sloth and wallow in self pity? Figure your crap out. Is this nerve issue permanent? I'm not sure you will get any help here as you don't even seem to care enough about yourself to try.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/01/15 12:51 AM
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While you do worry about you, you do have a position to help her. Tell her what you expect, but not all at once. In other words don't give her a laundry list. Start with your top, and be honest. "I would appreciate it if you took over the day to day household chores while I'm at work, so that when I'm home we can have more quality time to do other stuff". Or " So, and So, has a birthday coming up, I'd like you to call xyz to find out xyz..." If phone phobia comes up, sympathize that you understa…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/01/15 09:42 PM
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Indecision is a plague of mine. I've grown increasingly better over the last four years. Most of my journey had no direct connection to RP, RP put a face and some labels to things. It helped fill in the gaps. I am not where I want to be, and being slow to decide because of my analytical brain doesn't help, which is a separate issue. I either don't care enough to decide, or I care too much and want to run the senerios before choosing. I need to be less indifferent in the things that don't matter …
/r/MarriedRedPill27/01/15 09:25 PM
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You are speaking my language. Indifference is a huge issue of mine, it helps me in areas as I find it easy not to care, but apathy is harmful. This isn't true in all areas of my life, but there are too many. Indifference leads to indecision and that's where its harmful.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/01/15 07:38 PM
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No, but a wife is different... Would you put one of your children in charge of your wife? One might put a younger more responsible child over an older child.. But a wife is distinct...
/r/MarriedRedPill27/01/15 02:03 AM
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Ultimately it is like with most RP terms you'll have slight variance of opinion. You could easily look at the most responsible teenager in the house the same as a FO. If you have a Sahm... Who watches the kids when you are work? Who cleans or ensures cleaning is being done, etc.. Its all about delegation, my wife has the authority I delegate to her. She regularly asks for input, or tells me of decisions and asks for critiques. When I am home she defers to me most of the time unless I'm busy and …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/15 09:27 PM
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Its amazing just how much AWALT.... I had thought it was just my ex and it was just that she was a whore... But no... Really deep down AWALT to one degree or another. Thanks for the FR.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/15 09:13 PM
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My daughters are raised to appreciate that they are female. They are taught the fine art of homemaking. They are given a quality education, yet they are encouraged to fill the role of a sahm, yet if they pursue college etc..they will be well equipted, I would encourage them more towards traditional roles, nurses, teachers etc... But at the end of the day once they are adults they'll choose their own path. I don't care what society thinks about any one of these, society as a whole doesn't have th…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/15 03:57 PM
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Pity at its heart is a loss of Frame. Self pity is you losing sight of your frame. With towards others it is allowing empathy or compassion to draw you into their frame. I don't think there is anything wrong with encouragement, however it should be prepared with a willingness to turn into a swift kick in the rear if its not respond to, and then if an individual still wants to wallow in the muck, its on them.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/15 03:47 PM
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Your personal experience... Both parties? Were you the therapist or one of the parties...? There is no such thing as a marriage equally lead by both parties. One is in control, you cannot have two equal leaders it works nowhere in society... The parties may switch roles, but one is in difference... MRP is about a male lead model, it doesn't mean he doesn't differ to his wife on matters but it does mean its at his choice to do so. Its not about controling others but controlling yourself. You talk…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/01/15 05:24 PM
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The issue isn't really about muscles exactly. Not every guy gets swollen, this issue is about being attracted to health and strength. I've known woman who was attracted to pasty geeks, this woman dumped her pastey geek after being in a situation that she expected him to defend her from danger in which he failed. She married a big burly guy not long after that.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/01/15 02:42 AM
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I agree with the general advice "this is not appropriate". You may want to seem cool or uncontroling, but ltr with kids = no partying with singles. Heck, even without kids. Sleep overs, etc..are a thing of the past. I would not trust any single friend, or heck some married ones. Give you an example, there is a guy. His wife chased him for years before they married. She could never think of another man, he's the only one yada yada. A friend of this guy gets dropped by his wife, and ends of at the…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/01/15 10:17 PM
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Sure you are, by simply not recognizing openly that the actions by her related to the OP are not different than the advice given to him in response. Its not really a dumpster fire, truthfully its an emotional ride that may all be forgotten in the morning. She said and did the things she said and did based on how she felt when she did them, not based on rational thought. Once she feels different, she will likely behave differently.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/01/15 10:26 PM
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Yes men are emotionally abusive if they with hold emotion, and attention. If woman withold anything from sex, to affection it is not abusive. In fact woman screaming, and throwing things is obviously the exact opposite of abusive...... I mean, men are so oppressive. Women's action are never out of line. Im sure I don't need to identify the sarcasm. If the attempts to "fix" are emotional abuse then so is the wife's moving into a guest room, and throwing the ring.... Etc.. There are likely more pr…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/01/15 08:47 PM
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It doesn't matter who is right or wrong according you, unless of course your a male. If she blew up, you seem to not acknowledge that as emotional abuse? He didn't maybe feel anxiety or discomfort? How about her creating emotional distance? He is the only one creating abuse. This is just ignorant women can do no wrong crap. Throwing her ring.... That isn't abusive, silent treatment... Etcc.. From my end? Emotional distance isnt abuse for either side if warranted, but certainly from your case if …
/r/MarriedRedPill21/01/15 05:05 PM
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I actually agree as well. The issue is a lot of what /r/trp is, is immature, and angry. It tends to come off as a lot of boys with shiny new toys to aquire validation, even though it speaks against self validation. It ultimately seeks to attack feminism by giving it what it thinks it wants. Vis. If feminism provided the loose woman /r/trp will provide the CC which will ultimately cause feminism to undermine itself and destruct. Too many used up woman, and not enough beta bucks to fall back on. T…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/01/15 02:18 AM
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In my Faith we call it hashkafa, but many others have a similar idea. Multiple posters have laid it out, its ultimately the lens through which you view the world. Hashkafa or Frame allows you to deal with any number of situations because its puts you in control of how you respond to anything that comes your way. Your Frame is as flexible as you desire to be. Its helpful to understand someone else's frame when communicatiing, but you can be pulled into there Frame if you aren't careful, you may c…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/15 05:48 AM
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This is the sum of (what's said above). infidelity is not something easily forgotten, if you get stuck seeking her validation you will perpetually be living in fear of if she is doing it again. Having experienced it in a prior marriage it is not something that I would tolerate, its a huge violation of the whole marriage program. I.e I protect and provide, you present yourself exclusively to me. However at the end of the day its all about what one is willing to live with. I hope OP doesnt have ki…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/15 03:05 PM
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The issue isn't about the response. She wants a divorce, she has free will, she can file and move on. However, how many posters have actually delt with divorce? Going through it the OP most certainly will survive and very well maybe happier on the other side. Simply calling him a beta orbiter and shaming is not useful IMO. However, divorce is not like breaking up with a ltr. Sharing parenting with someone you have no vested interest in and very well may end up having very opposing values with yo…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/15 03:18 AM
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I never gave advice as to what to do, I don't recommend honoring a covert contract. If he chooses to fight for her, it should be based on his desire. That doesn't make that choice BP. Many people around here probably have had there wives bring up divorce. Only someone who has no real experiential knowledge of divorce with kids, and I'm not talking about being raised by a single parent , would think its so cut and dry. However, it being hard should not dissuade the OP from divorce, if she cheated…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/01/15 09:57 PM
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What a woman says is not necessarily what she means. I'd wager she is working off some covert contract that's expecting him to display his love by fighting for her. Mixed singles are to string it along. The questions is, how far has she gone outside the marriage. Being divorced from a woman if you have kids does not free you from that woman. This is one of biggest issue I see from guys around here who offer the next option... Its not the same freaking thing.... Its not next, you have a connectio…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/01/15 07:32 PM
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You hit a lot of key elements. People mistakingly believe only religious people indoctrinate. The whole world is trying to indoctrinate you, and the vast majority target your kids. They are your kids, you take ownership of how you want to shape their life,if they dont like it, once they adults they can do what they like. Its your home, your rules... Once they are grown they can get their own house and establish their own rules. Controlling outside media, or relationships that you view are harmfu…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 05:55 PM
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Gotcha. Yes, that is a good point. My wife is very self improvement oriented, in my worst days she actually was motivated it read books from various authors on these topics from a biblical perspective, to improve herself...not to shove in my face, which was appreciated.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/01/15 02:43 AM
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I'm not sure if not directly teaching her would make one a poor head of household, but a biblical faith does change a lot, in particular a belief in Mashiaych (Christ) mandates certain elements such as personal growth, leading by example (Phil 3:17), husband headship, etc... Etc.. In fact men's failure in these in other areas from this perspective is an absence of Faith. Unless you simply ment not teaching her what is expected of her.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/01/15 09:21 PM
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Yes, because no one from RedPill ever used there blog or forum recognition to sell books or anything....
/r/MarriedRedPill08/01/15 07:46 PM
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Not to derail, but your comment takes me back. It took me too long to get that kind of crap with my ex under control. I still have a tenedency to avoid contact, even when I shouldn't and even though it is far better know. I had to nuke a lot of that, throw what some would call "fairness" out the window, and set firm boundries... You can't pick the kids up on time, you can pick them up the next day early, you can't do that, you'll see them next time. She would completely try to hold my life hosta…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/01/15 11:52 PM
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Not that there has been a lot of lawyer up advice here, but I often wonder those that give this advice if they've ever been divorced. Ive been divorced with custody. Its not easy, divorce with kids can suck as bad as staying married to crazy. Its really hard in the US to stop the other parent from any visitation even if they are crazy, best case you get mediated visitation. The kids will manipulate things, and almost always sympathize with the underdog parent. If the other parent has visitation,…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/01/15 07:18 PM
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I have no experience directly akin to this topic, some slightly unrelated discussion such as when I asked my wife to wear an outward symbol of her submission to me, to remind her of it. I would say however that it would make sense to have this discussion once you see regular positive response to your changes. Another option more risky would be in an intimate point where you own up to your failures and infirm here of a plan of action.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/01/15 01:47 AM
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Well, your right Taken in hand does not advocate it, just like the redpill, yet it is common and often done in their community. Usually after the wife ends up asking. Same thing you see in Redpoll woman, while they advocate against it some woman stumble upon RP and initiate or buy the material for the husband, etc.. My faith rendered the neccissety to have such a conversation somewhat moot, there has been a long adjustment period to what it means and how it looks. My wife and I are still working…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/01/15 06:05 PM
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This is something I love about this sub, its when a post like this comes up and it crosses the grain, then you get alot of supposed alpha males get bent out of shape and ignore the point. Its like your afraid if your wife finds the information out your paper thin alpha frame will be ruined. If this is all magicians tricks to you, you've got worse problems. Its like the inner beta has a fake facade like the Wizard of Oz... Don't look behind the curtain... If a woman can adapt or inoculate herself…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/01/15 01:34 AM
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This is a lot to digest, I've seen similar things so AWALT. Don't expect apologies, nor should you take responsibility for her outburst. She is covertly saying she needed you to call her out on her insanity. She needed to be treated like a child, this doesn't necessarily make sense to us or feel natural. Your calmness logically resulted in a bigger storm, she wanted to see if she could break it and draw you into her frame. I think you could have had a chance to diffuse earlier with agree and amp…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/15 09:59 PM
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If you are comfortable with Spankings don't doubt yourself. Just never do it in anger, do it from a calm frame. Make sure your state doesn't have any wack job laws. Other types of consequence such as denial of privileges, or grounding work but you have to make sure an end run around can't happen. Like when your not home they do it anyway, or grounded but to a room full of entertainment.... If you have them wait till you return home, try to handle right away if you can. I make this mistake on occ…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/12/14 08:23 PM
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One more thought, if you say something such as set a consequence, be sure to carry it out. So be careful what you make a deal of, the battle might not be worth the effort and maybe required to stick to it just to make a point that your word is solid. I'll also add dont say "ask your mother" when asked questions by your children in regards to permission either make a decision or I you need to consult your FO, then say you'll get back to them. Then later ask her on the side for input and then get …
/r/MarriedRedPill29/12/14 07:30 PM
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I have step kids, this complicates things incredibly, but its all the same animal. To deal with both posts, I'd say you need to sit everybody down and explain the new order. Dad handles all discipline unless something is insanely out of control and dad isn't around. Bring it back to the bygone years of "just wait till your father gets home". You have to be consistent, things take time, know how you might handle different situations, spanking, timeout, removal of privileges. Some kids may not res…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/12/14 07:15 PM
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Why are you targeting my faith, rather than my point. My faith effects my world view, my point is one of encouragement. Rather, I see irratation at my point. Are men so afraid of responsibility these days that they rather put there head in the sand and pretend their actions only effect themselves? You may not agree with my world view, but my point still stands. You may say you arnt an activist, but actions say othewise, another Red Pill point. There is an attitude of do it yourself, yet diy usua…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 08:32 PM
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I didn't miss the point, if the world around is you static, there is no room for you to improve. If the world around you is dynamic, improvement is possible. In other words no amount of self change could influence anything, therefore improvement is self deception. If your change has outward effect then the world at large is not static. If the world has changed from a prior stats, or let's say this country. If this country was a patriarchy and now is a matriarchy, it in fact changed. Why did it c…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 08:14 PM
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My point is dealing with self deception. My point of mentioning a biblical worldview was directly related to those of said view to invite there viewpoint. Ive been careful to word my statement to not exclude those who do not share that view. Just because you believe it happens in a vacuum does not make it so. If you improve your self it is a RP value that it should affect your wife and your job, etc.. its being dishonest to imply that it doesn't or won't. The outcome aspect is there is no guaran…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 06:57 PM
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I understand the basics of what you are saying. However, my point is not that this should band together to picket or protest, the opposite really. I'm saying the notion that your self improvement operates in a vacuum is delusional. I find it odd that Red pill would be so self limiting, and also that it is actually controlled as it were by framers of a RP constitution. Also, my point is not about biting off more than you can chew, but understanding alot of what I'm saying is already at play, from…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 05:37 PM
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Here is the issue between men and woman. Woman will say horrible crap to you, and mean it completely at the time. Then 5 minutes later say the opposite and mean it completely. Why¿ because its how she feels. She speaks what she feels and both are true. Men have a hard time with this because they speak what they think, generally not what the feel. Men inherently know (most do anyway) that speaking from what you feel is not generally the truth. This is why you cannot hold what she says when she's …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 04:30 PM
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While I'm probably not going to say anything new here that hadn't been said fifty different ways, I'll chime in anyway. OI is not related to freezing out your wife. While the goal of with holding is to restore sex you cant be dependent on that outcome. If you are, you are given her authority over you. She is the one in charge, because she is the one in control. When she feels like restoring sex she will. You cannot be dependent on that, you withhold to make a point. To illustrates how her behavi…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 04:01 PM
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Well, this is the crux of my point. If Redpill is to deal with the hand your dealt then by definition you do not improve. You cannot improve the hand your given. However, if Redpill instead is a realist or pragmatic viewpoint, then you say this is the hand I started with but I can apply myself to improve my hand or use strategy to leverage it better. By definition my suggest is a Redpill worldview should carry the notion that by bettering yourself you are in fact bettering the World. Also, gener…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/12/14 03:25 PM
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This is my first post here. It seems there is concern with guys never learning, and continuing to need constant hand holding. Beyond the baseline level of instructions such as modeling (this is where FRs come into play), rather than directly provide an answer or example after the same posters keeps running for advice on the same situations is to start asking questions that forces them to come up with their own response's, coupled with being brutally honest when their response is dumb or ineffect…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/12/14 11:57 PM
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