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Howdy folks, one of the existing moderators of the original wiki here. It seems to have been caught up in the great subreddit renaming, and now lives at r/a:t5_3attf. My apologies for not maintaining it, I haven't really been active in this community for a few years now, due to some harassment from a user here (who now seems to have been suspended) and disagreements in scope with other users. I had a pretty major update planned for RBOMI a year ago, but I've never really found the time to put th…
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:09 PM
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At least awareness is being raised
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:19 PM
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Morning folks. Nice to know I am remembered.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 12:03 AM
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r/FeMRADebates is usually pretty good for finding balance.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 10:13 PM
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Honestly dude, your actions here are actively harmful to the various men's activism communities. Trolling other activists is not the way to get people to trust you. Trolling is a childish act that, for good reason, is a ban-worthy offense in many subreddits and discords. Stop trolling, and start working with others for equality.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 09:17 PM
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One website is not proof of anything ​
/r/MensRights29/12/18 07:29 PM
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https://www.mhraconnect.com/
/r/MensRights28/12/18 10:32 AM
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u/blueorange22 take a look at this one eh? ​ ​
/r/MensRights28/12/18 03:29 AM
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Nice, joined.
/r/MensRights17/11/18 06:25 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that you can relate.
/r/MensRights17/11/18 12:45 AM
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I would recommend that you just start a discord server. All the MRA servers are absolutely toast.
/r/MensRights16/11/18 06:22 PM
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The future is female. That one. Only that one
/r/MensRights14/11/18 10:31 PM
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Stop talking about the other quote. It is.not relevant
/r/MensRights14/11/18 10:25 PM
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I am referring to the popular feminist quote, not specifically the origins of it but it's actual use. Oh, so you mean that instead of women being 50% of the population, they would become 90% of the population, 'more female', right? No, and you know that you are wrong. It is not talking about population. ​
/r/MensRights14/11/18 01:14 AM
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It is a separate part of the same book. I am referring to a specific quote in the book. Not that one. And hey
/r/MensRights14/11/18 12:34 AM
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Separate quote. I have not touched upon that and I explicitly disagreed with it (although it would be nice)
/r/MensRights14/11/18 12:12 AM
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Different quote. I said the quote was not sexist, I never said anything about ol' Sallie
/r/MensRights13/11/18 09:44 PM
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The context that "female future" and "returned to women" are not absolutes, but partials. So "the future is female" becomes "the future is more female than the past and present" and so on and so forth.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 09:43 PM
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1 and 2 require additional context. 3 is pretty bad.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 05:54 PM
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Interestingly, the original quote does not actually mean what you think it means. Not.really sexist.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 10:17 AM
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And then the non-trolls will tell you that those particular academics were idiots who probably never read it.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 09:47 AM
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Since you deleted your comment, I was wondering who you were. Hello Nikki. Good to see that your content is still extremely misinformed.
/r/MensRights11/11/18 09:00 AM
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Only if they do it because they feel it is something they have to,do or be seen as a wimp
/r/MensRights09/11/18 11:22 PM
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sadly r/menslib does a better job of it than here
/r/MensRights09/11/18 03:27 AM
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Well... That certainly has a lot of examples.
/r/MensRights08/11/18 10:02 AM
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Remember folks, there is no proof as of yet. Merely claims.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 11:35 PM
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!remindme 5 years because 5 years should be more than enough. then again, the US has a habit of being behind the rest of the world.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 10:58 PM
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Pray tell, how have any educators or family failed me? If anything, they failed you if you really believe that doing something objectively bad for a child is the right choice and that it looks better. And no, I don't mind being laughed at for being backed up by science. The world is changing old bean. Change with it.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 10:33 PM
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Again, no DEVELOPED country. The US is not a developed country if recent events are anything to go by, and of course only about half of US males are circumcised. ​ Saying it "looks better" is not a good justification for trying to control male sexuality.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:38 PM
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And the same for you old bean. The evidence against circumcision is huge, and that is why no developed country regularly performs it.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:29 PM
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It is only ugly to you because of your cultural indoctrination.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:23 PM
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rbomi.com is there too.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:14 PM
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Until you get banned. Eh, Quora moderation is fairly decent as long as you follow BNBR. I don't see it, and you didn't provide examples. If you don't see it, you can't see it. Your internal biases prevent you from seeing it. Toxic masculinity is an cotton-swab term. It's meant to be misused. More proof that you are just using it as a buzzword without knowing the meaning behind it. ​
/r/MensRights07/11/18 05:19 AM
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Holy crap. How? What possibly could bring you to say this given what you know just about the NOW, to say nothing of what you know about Erin Pizzey, Warren Farrell, and the others who have been rather brutally denounced by that movement movement for seeking equality? I am brought to say that because of my many, many conversations with feminists. Only 1 or 2 out of every hundred did not believe in gender equality, and the other 1 or 2 thought they did. That is sometimes what is said, but I've nev…
/r/MensRights07/11/18 01:12 AM
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How's it working for you? Pretty well actually, have had some nice conversations. I didn't say men's rights, I said feminism. The movements don't mirror each other. They pretty much do, and even if they did not, they are both political movements by definition. They believe in their version, toxic masculinity. Which is just "toxic maleness" with a pretty dress on. Your statement here shows that you have absolutely no understanding of Toxic Masculinity at all. If you actually knew what it is about…
/r/MensRights07/11/18 12:30 AM
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Very true.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 10:18 PM
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Sure. Where would you like me to post it?
/r/MensRights06/11/18 10:17 PM
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yes.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 10:11 PM
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muh hurr durr whyte knyte
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:24 PM
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So averages cover everything now?
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:24 PM
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Oh go fuck yourself you genuinely misogynistic piece of shit. This subreddit is not for men. This subreddit is for men and women to work together to solve the various issues affecting men in modern society. Go to r/TheRedPill if you want a safe space.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:24 PM
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This is reasonable.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:20 PM
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You are correct that some feminists attack male shelters. Others, however, help male victims of domestic violence, such as the number of women's shelters that welcome men or provide alternative residence.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:19 PM
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#killallmen is ironic misandry (which is not acceptable, but is not enough to devalue the movement. "All men are rapists" is a shortened form of the phrase "all men are potential rapists" which is in fact true.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:15 PM
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The question is which is a bigger shit. Personally I would say that the GOP are, but I understand that many people think the Dems are
/r/MensRights06/11/18 08:12 PM
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But CNN is untrustworthy. They are run by frogs of homosexual orientation. Beware the water coiler
/r/MensRights06/11/18 07:00 PM
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The dems attack false accusation victims, the GOP are responsible for the lack of draft equality. ​ ​
/r/MensRights06/11/18 06:32 PM
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When you have to earn it... it isn't a right. That is not how rights work. Rights come with responsibilities. It is if they haven't earned it by signing up for SS. Men automatically have it, but it is revoked when they commit a certain crime. A claim for which you have yet to actually come up with a supporting source. https://now.org/resource/issue-advisory-women-and-the-draft-moving-two-steps-closer-to-equality/ https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/us/politics/congress-women-military-draft.html h…
/r/MensRights06/11/18 05:25 PM
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The standards get you kicked out of feminist spaces. Do they? With politics, you get a vote. The Men's Rights Movement has votes? When? Because we are definitely a political movement. Feminism is closer to religion, leaning heavy on original sin. The large majority of feminists I have talked to don't believe in "original sin"
/r/MensRights06/11/18 05:16 PM
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Again, men still legally have the right to vote. I agree that SS is bad, but it does not make it illegal for men to vote. And again, feminists have campaigned against the draft several times.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 05:12 PM
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Feminists are individuals that choose to conform to feminist standards. The people who set those standards are not the moderate ones. The only feminist standard is the dictionary definition. People that advocate for the extreme of their group identity generally get the most attention. So like with every political movement ever?
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:44 AM
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So they can vote, unless they refuse to do one thing. Sounds like SS is the inequality, not the legality of men voting. Finding one single feminist legal initiative that was actually about equality takes months of research? I think you've answered our question... thank you. "every single policy initiative is furthering legal inequality" is the one that requires months of research and you know it.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:43 AM
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Quora. And only if you are polite and follow the rules of friendly debate.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:41 AM
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I guess that is where we disagree. You see that feminism is often a hindrance to gender equality, whereas I see that sometimes some feminists are hindrances to gender equality and the majority really do support gender equality both in theory and practice
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:41 AM
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mr is too antifeminist and ml is too profeminist. So the sweet spot is in the middle.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 08:33 AM
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Or alternatively we don't hear about the normal feminists in academia and media, and so we think the proportion of badfems is higher than it is.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 01:16 AM
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Do they? Feminists are individuals, not people to be "controlled".
/r/MensRights05/11/18 01:15 AM
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You can't be neutral towards a movement that is the biggest opposition to gender equality. I wouldn't say that feminism is the biggest opposition to gender equality. In fact, I would say that the vast majority of feminists believe in gender equality. I think the problem is the obsession with being anti-feminist, IE too many people making anti-feminist posts that don't even have anything to do with men's rights, or making anti-feminist comments on a post that had nothing to do with feminism. I wo…
/r/MensRights05/11/18 01:15 AM
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Believe it or not, it was not being angry that got them there.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 12:50 AM
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It does sound interesting.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 09:28 PM
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I do not have Netflix.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:12 PM
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Perhaps, although it seems to be a bit more anti-feminist than is ideal. What we need is to be totally neutral on feminism.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:12 PM
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The only reason I "underestimate" "PC anger" is because I actually talk to feminists on a regular basis.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:32 PM
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Trump is just as bad for mens rights as any other politician.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:20 PM
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This is not the way that 99% of my conversations witj feminists go. They are usually calm, rational, and open to learning. Go talk to a better group of feminists.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:15 PM
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It really is the time for measured and quiet responses. Going angry didn't work for feminists, and it won't work for us.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:11 PM
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Most feminists are good people, if misinformed. Kinda like the people here.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:09 PM
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Agreed. We have to be both the teacher and the student. It should be a discussion about expanding ideas, not an argument or debate about whether men or women are more oppressed
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:09 PM
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Those are annoying, but they are a small fraction of feminists.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:07 PM
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The sweet spot is somewhere in between r/mensrights and r/menslib
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:06 PM
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Feminism is not inherently sexist. By definition, it is anti-sexist, so removing the sexism a small number of feminists have would make it a purer form of feminism, not un-feminism. The word feminism is not at all sexist name. A gendered one yes, but the MRM has the same problem.
/r/MensRights03/11/18 07:26 PM
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I think you are forgetting the millenials under 30 mate. And not all right wing libertarians are anti-feminist. There are right wing libertarian feminists. I am Gen Z myself chap. There are plenty of pro-feminists I know. More probably than anti-feminists.
/r/MensRights03/11/18 01:18 AM
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Are you sure? most under-30s I have met have had a rather positive view of feminism.
/r/MensRights03/11/18 01:13 AM
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Really? I need a source for women fighting for the right to vote, when men still don't have it? What? men most definitely have the right to vote. And now you... without sources? Because one is easily googleable and the other takes months of research.
/r/MensRights02/11/18 09:45 PM
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You don't say? And yet, every single policy initiative is furthering legal inequality. he says without a source Name one legal initiative of the feminist movement that was about legal equality between men and women? Any one of the times feminists fought against the Draft?
/r/MensRights02/11/18 09:00 PM
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Feminists have routinely fought for and in many instances succeeded in reducing men's legal rights. I think you mean "a small fraction of well-meaning feminists have advocated for laws that unfortunately have a negative effect on men". And do we have to talk about the times feminists have helped men's rights? Good luck, for starters how about getting an admission that misandry is actually a problem. Don't hold your breath. I did not need to. Most feminists I have talked to agree that misandry an…
/r/MensRights02/11/18 08:01 PM
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If the visuals of feminism were worse than those of the MRM, things would be very different.
/r/MensRights02/11/18 07:51 PM
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Legal Inequality is the goal of feminism. Huh. The vast majority of feminists would say the exact opposite. Feminism is a movement for legal inequality between men and women. Given that 99.9% of feminists advocate for legal and social equality between men and women, you have absolutely no base for your claim. I don't think we want anyone on board that's turned off by bashing movements against legal equality. Except for that feminism on the whole is for legal equality, so bashing it actually soli…
/r/MensRights02/11/18 07:50 PM
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Agreed. The Kavanaugh situation has brought more of us out of the woodwork.
/r/MensRights01/11/18 10:32 PM
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The MRM is already very similar to feminism.
/r/MensRights01/11/18 10:32 PM
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No, legal inequality is. Feminism is more a problem that when fixed can help. Feminist bashing actually hurts the MRM by making it harder to change feminists minds and improve the MRA meme.
/r/MensRights01/11/18 10:31 PM
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Why do you post it here though
/r/MensRights01/11/18 08:05 AM
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And also the non-brigaders too.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 10:50 PM
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because 0.1% of a million is still 1000
/r/MensRights31/10/18 07:45 PM
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Mate, I am not brigading. I have been a regular here for over a year.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 07:44 PM
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No, that is not relevant.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 05:30 AM
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Nice stats proving my point. And yes, hyperantifeminist is an original term. ​ You need to stop affiliating antifeminists with hyperantifeminists. That is you not me.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 10:41 PM
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Literally anywhere else? why does everything related to gender have to be feminists fault?
/r/MensRights30/10/18 10:39 PM
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The moderators are absolutely terrible though.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 10:38 PM
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Try talking to your mother. I talked to my feminist mother, and she seems to agree with me. ​ Most feminists are nice and rational people .
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:47 PM
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r/feminism is well known as an echo-chamber for MIERFs and other unfortunate types.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:44 PM
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Can confirm, feminists here get constantly spam-commented and insulted.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:42 PM
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That... Is not quite the full story.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:42 PM
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Do you have a source on that 9% number? Because last time I checked it was closer to 15%, with an additional 50% considering themselves pro-feminist. ​ And even if you consider yourself neither feminist nor pro-feminist, that does not make you hyperantifeminist. There are several points in between, including: feminist neutral feminist-critical antifeminist and only then do you hit hyperantifeminist. ​ Oh, and interesting how you have edited your comment from 9% to 18%. Cute.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:41 PM
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Preach, comrade. You and I are part of the small minority that considers themselves both pro-MRA and pro-feminist. ​ It is the best path to take, but it is one that is fraught with downvotes. ​ r/FeMRADebates
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:37 PM
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"sanity" and yet they all blame feminism without reason.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:34 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:34 PM
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Alt-right is often hyperantifeminist, just like this subreddit.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:34 PM
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A significant and unfortunate number of MRAs are hyperantifeminist, meaning that they tend to accuse feminism as a whole for actions of one feminist. The problem is that neither feminism or the MRM is particularly open to conversation right now. The hat flows through both.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:33 PM
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I am very surprised that you are not being downvoted.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:31 PM
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From my many conversations with feminists, I would tend to agree with you. ​ But damn are those fringe feminists crazy.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 08:30 PM
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Awwww. Accusations of narcissism and pathetic insults.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 10:02 AM
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Okay then. I will leave you to your Urban Dictionary of insults. See ya mate.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:30 AM
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So something less attractive has the same number as something more attractive? And kid, nobody over the age of 20 uses "roast" unironically
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:23 AM
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and in my opinion is far less attractive to extremists looking for something to help push their toxic beliefs.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:10 AM
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So you saying that there are disproportionate numbers of extremist in feminism is not proven, and I am disinclined to believe it.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:05 AM
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There are plenty of extremists here too.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 09:00 AM
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Hahaha, yeah.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 08:59 AM
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actually, that is wrong. 5-8% are proven definitely false by courts.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 08:53 AM
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And yet you say "rabid trans activism"...
/r/MensRights29/10/18 01:59 AM
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Are you sure? Because r/gendercritical is a well known TERF subreddit. try r/gendercynical instead
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:40 AM
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Yeah, I guess being the #1 funder of a major supreme court case is not any significant extent
/r/MensRights28/10/18 08:50 PM
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Being the #1 backer in a major court case is a small extent?
/r/MensRights28/10/18 08:49 PM
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Hello, TERF.
/r/MensRights28/10/18 08:10 PM
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Uh, they did get involved in the anti-draft activism. And I am fairly sure a number of women's shelters provide resources for men.
/r/MensRights28/10/18 08:10 PM
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One question: How do any of the topics here relate to men's rights? The only one I can think of is #2, but even that is barely related.
/r/MensRights25/10/18 08:28 PM
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Agreed. I am surprised the laws do not allow this already. Single Gender spaces are healthy and good for both genders.
/r/MensRights25/10/18 09:55 AM
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And Trump Supporters don't support Trump.
/r/MensRights25/10/18 07:30 AM
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And Trump Supporters do not support Trump.
/r/MensRights25/10/18 07:30 AM
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Regressives are not progressive
/r/MensRights25/10/18 06:19 AM
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Is it? Because restricting a groups access to something based on their gender sounds like the very opposite of progressive. It is regressive.
/r/MensRights24/10/18 10:56 PM
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They are welcome to call themselves whatever they want. Does not make it true.
/r/MensRights24/10/18 10:55 PM
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If a progressive acts conservative, they are not progressive. Label defines behaviour every time.
/r/MensRights24/10/18 09:31 PM
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rbomi.com - the reference book of men's issues. r/rbomidev - a few links, still very empty r/mensrightslinks - one of the non-official r/MR network subs. Lots of info. And here is some I have collected myself: http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm - HELL OF A LOT OF DATA HERE http://www.batteredmen.com/NISVS.htm - Shelter inequality Spanish lies: https://plus.google.com/+DavidPrieto100/posts/iwZiQSAfGKy http://www.oneinthree.com.au/malevictims/ https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_arti…
/r/MensRights24/10/18 05:38 PM
1

NAWALT IF VFWALT
/r/MensRights24/10/18 05:32 PM
11

This is not progressive at all. This is regressivism under a different name.
/r/MensRights24/10/18 05:27 PM
-2

Not particularly.
/r/MensRights23/10/18 08:08 PM
-2

Also taking the piss out of the feminists who acknowledge men have it as bad...
/r/MensRights23/10/18 07:21 PM
1

Start male only spaces then, instead of attacking female only spaces.
/r/MensRights20/10/18 07:51 PM
-1

Saying that everybody deserves the same thing is hypocrisy now?
/r/MensRights20/10/18 07:50 PM
1

Unnecessary and uncalled for.
/r/MensRights20/10/18 08:08 AM
0

Yes. Sue over actual issues, not this
/r/MensRights20/10/18 08:08 AM
4

You know what? I am cool with a womens beer forum. Both men and women need time away from the other sex. Honestly MRAs, pick your battles. Womens only spaces have as much right to exist as mens only spaces.
/r/MensRights19/10/18 11:12 PM
5

Progress ho.
/r/MensRights19/10/18 07:58 PM
2

For shit zen giggles.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 06:10 PM
1

Thank You. You know why I did it?
/r/MensRights18/10/18 07:48 AM
1

I eagerly await your PM.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 06:39 AM
3

So you believe in me.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 05:19 AM
-4

We need more fathers. Toxic masculinity harms men from childhood to death. #endfatherlessness.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 04:44 AM
7

I willl allow PECS for the time being.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 04:41 AM
35

yes I will
/r/MensRights18/10/18 02:10 AM
34

I vote yes. wr need humour
/r/MensRights18/10/18 02:10 AM
1

this
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:59 AM
10

Here are my thoughts on how to construct an essay that could make the idea of gender equality for men appealing to a "blue-pilled" audience: Do not, in any circumstance, reference feminism or women's rights activism. There is no quicker way to alienate your audience than attacking the thing they hold dear. Try not to use the words "men's rights" and "MRA". A lot of people hold ingrained prejudice around their topics. Try not to tear down other groups. Don't say that women are not oppressed, or a…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:12 AM
1

rbomi.com too!
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:08 AM
3

Woot woot! I like some of Kimmels earlier works, but in the past few decades he has moved away from mens liberation. Fake MRA Micheal K
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:07 AM
1

We are all silent. Most of us here never speak about this. I myself don't speak about this much IRL. ​ Sadly, people like you who put your jobs on the line for what you believe in are all too rare.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:57 PM
5

Not relevant. Cuckoldry is a specific fetish with a subreddit dedicated to it. A civil rights movement is not the relevant place for fetishes.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 07:49 AM
3

India b crazy
/r/MensRights17/10/18 07:46 AM
-1

Although teach men not to rape actually works, because it works on the principle of helping fix mistaken consent. Teach parents to not accidentally kill their kids?
/r/MensRights17/10/18 05:11 AM
1

From twitter though. ​ Oh, and this was confirmed to be a troll post. Just thought YSK
/r/MensRights16/10/18 11:13 PM
1

Less than equal these days.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 11:03 PM
5

Of course, maybe there has only ever been 1 real crazy feminist, and every single other one is fake. Who knows though right?
/r/MensRights16/10/18 11:03 PM
0

So you oppose the toxic ideology found here? Why do you stay?
/r/MensRights16/10/18 05:50 PM
0

Sometimes from regulars who see a problem with the behavior here that does not positively reflect on us.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 03:17 AM
0

You reply to me way down comment chains.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 02:05 AM
0

Dude, last time you got in to it with me you were beaten down so badly you made this big display of quitting Reddit forever. One, I never said forever, nor did I say reddit. Two, you and I both know that you were not the reason for it at all. Quit the shit. I would like to have a calm rational discussion but I can't hold up both ends. You want to have a calm rational argument then you follow me around for no reason whatsoever like a creep. Seems legit.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:45 AM
0

So the fact that courts are biased against men in other areas does not count here?
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:44 AM
-1

I know that. I want you to tell me specifically how often is a man who is proven innocent convicted guilty after an investigation?
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:32 AM
0

No, I can say "fuck off, my positions are solid and I have shown you that they are several times but you just keep whining and following me around like a creep and making inane and pointless statements that have no intellectual value whatsoever and you just keep doing it to be a prick" quite rightfully. ​ You are not here for a calm rational discussion. You are here to be a creepshow asshole.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:31 AM
0

By how much?
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:26 AM
0

Mat is the russian swear words. ​ So in other words, (SWEAR WORD) Off.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:25 AM
-2

There is a form of russian language called Mat. ​ I want you to find the words in it, and interpret them as if I was saying each word to you, and putting the word "off" after each one. Understood?
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:16 AM
-1

Because it is the most easily provable, and comes from the only truly reliable source. The courts.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:12 AM
-1

Oh go stuff a sock in your trap.
/r/MensRights15/10/18 01:09 AM
-1

I prefer the 5-10% number. It is easily the most reliable.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 03:35 AM
1

Honour (yeah thats right americanos I used the dreaded U) is definitely a strong one. Another vital one is caring for yourself and others. Be careful using that term (toxic masculinity) here though, a lot of people dislike it.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 02:37 AM
-1

Why do you think this?
/r/MensRights14/10/18 02:34 AM
5

Further advice: to avoid people taking offense to the term, use the alternative phrase "enforced machismo"
/r/MensRights14/10/18 02:33 AM
10

I highly doubt that half of all accusations are false. Say what you want about mediaradar, they cannot pull off that many legal investigations without many millions of dollars of funding.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 01:53 AM
1

What about the non-man hating patriarchy theory? Most feminists I have met follow this one. Maybe 98% I have met maybe 5 feminists that can be classified as actually hating of men. Compared to the maybe 150 feminists I have met in the last 2 years, and I notice you have been talking to Tumblrites.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 12:59 AM
1

VFWALT.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 08:47 PM
10

As recently as 2015, half the world nations did not accept men could be raped.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 08:46 PM
3

Again, unnessecary and somewhat misogynistic
/r/MensRights13/10/18 08:43 PM
-5

A supposedly fake story (which is just as likely to be true, if not more likely) which says that she personally was severely victimised by reporting is something that I can "see where she is coming from". while I disagree with her on the topic of reporting, I agree that the current state of rape reporting is something that is seriously flawed and traumatic to victims. Ever heard of "double rape", the concept that male victims of rape are essentially raped again when they tell someone and get lau…
/r/MensRights13/10/18 08:26 AM
-1

And yet, I can see where this woman is coming from. You claim she has created a false rape story, and yet you have no evidence to prove it is either true or false. The thing is, she makes a lot of very good points. Rape Kit testing is a very invasive process. There is victim blaming. There are a lot of problems with the US justice system. Most rapes don't see a conviction due to lack of evidence. And yet you claim that this woman's story (which may in fact be very valid) is false, and assign an …
/r/MensRights13/10/18 08:10 AM
2

Uncalled for.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 07:55 AM
1

Huh? what comment?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 03:01 AM
19

Look man, I get it. You are probably an egalitarian. We here at Men'sRights are not opposed to rights for women. This sub simply provides a safe place to talk specifically about the inequalities and issues specifically affecting men. Equality is not a zero sum game. There is a problem in society, that often men's issues do not get to be talked about much. So we talk about it here.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 01:12 AM
1

metoo is kind of a mix between 3rd and 4th. Most of MeToo (the good part) is 4th,
/r/MensRights13/10/18 01:02 AM
1

Did I say that feminism does that?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 01:01 AM
2

No thank you.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 12:47 AM
1

Am I?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 12:47 AM
2

Ain't trolling, this is my genuine experience when talking with many feminists.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 12:46 AM
-4

Aww, you blocked me. That is cute. You like to block people who disagree with you. Seems like you can't handle anything but the Blue Pill.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 10:44 PM
-4

Alright, how many feminists have you talked to.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 10:24 PM
5

Never said they don't exist. Feminists who believe this compared to feminists as a whole is like neonazis compared to right wingers as a whole. Both are a tiny minority.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 10:24 PM
2

Shit if I know, I never touch that slogan.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 10:22 PM
2

Ideology. Ideology define the waves. Therefore 4th cannot be same as 3rd.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:34 PM
-1

I have never met a single feminist who believes this shit.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:24 PM
0

From my conversations with feminists, maybe 0.1% at most.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:23 PM
2

Is that the basic principle of feminism? Good to know. NOW, eh, maybe 5% of american feminists at most.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:14 PM
1

Alright,
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:13 PM
2

No such thing as official waves of feminism. Or official goals.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:08 PM
0

Correct. Since it is the vast majority of feminism that matters, and the NOW is only a tiny minority, you now realise that it is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:07 PM
-3

So the MRM is not egalitarian either?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:05 PM
2

How is this relevant to my comment?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:04 PM
1

No, that is 3rd wave.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:04 PM
-3

Because it is still a tiny minority of feminism?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:03 PM
0

So the MRM is not egalitarian either?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:02 PM
2

3rd wave feminism is not remotely similar to egalitarianism. Did I say 3rd Wave?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 09:02 PM
7

I though I should tell you that most of us here dislike TRP.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 07:46 PM
-12

Some of us see that the NOW is not all of feminism
/r/MensRights12/10/18 07:36 PM
-21

4th wave is good wave. Much more libertarian, more like 2nd, more likely to be open to mens issues. EDIT: The hate for any and all feminism, even good feminism, is strong with at least 23 people.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 07:28 PM
-40

From what I have seen, feminism is a specific group in egalitarianism that focuses specifically on women's issues.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 07:27 PM
2

https://youtu.be/2uqkngQ61ao 1:54
/r/MensRights10/10/18 10:45 PM
3

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Davis_(politician) There.
/r/MensRights10/10/18 10:34 PM
0

Yeah, you are not being hostile at all. You are probably American based on your behavior
/r/MensRights10/10/18 10:29 PM
2

You have a very negative view of the left and a very positive view of the right. most leftists still support IUPG
/r/MensRights10/10/18 10:10 PM
1

Did I say MensLib?
/r/MensRights10/10/18 09:59 PM
2

Considering the number of left leaning MRAs, i doubt that
/r/MensRights10/10/18 09:58 PM
-4

parts anyway. Although it is more likely the TD users that have been brigading for the last 2 years
/r/MensRights10/10/18 09:54 PM
-2

U
/r/MensRights10/10/18 08:47 AM
1

Yeah, she really is up there
/r/MensRights09/10/18 05:28 AM
1

She is pretty big. You on Quora yourself?
/r/MensRights09/10/18 05:19 AM
1

Oh, Lauren. Great woman, had some nice conversations with her.
/r/MensRights09/10/18 03:49 AM
-4

You need to keep looking for the right ones.
/r/MensRights09/10/18 03:02 AM
7

r/foregen have a peek here
/r/MensRights09/10/18 12:25 AM
-4

Agreed. Too many here have never met good feminists, which shapes their attitude and makes it harder for them to meet good feminists
/r/MensRights09/10/18 12:23 AM
9

interestingly, 60% of prison rape is by female guards
/r/MensRights09/10/18 12:09 AM
3

Wow.
/r/MensRights07/10/18 11:15 PM
4

This one I can't support. Toxic Masculinity is most common in fatherless kids, because the lack of father-given positive masculinity leads to the child being very susceptible to negative societal ideas of masculinity.
/r/MensRights07/10/18 07:03 PM
1

i said feminists not women
/r/MensRights07/10/18 05:11 AM
1

No, that is bad. Although Toxic Masculinity is one of the issues that should be talked about.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:22 PM
-1

And it has been wrong 100 times. Womens rights literally by definition is feminism. And AMR is anti MRA, not anti mens rights
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:19 PM
1

Try to avoid associating it with the MRM or feminism at the start, or better yet make friends with people in any womens groups. Always cover your butt. Always.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 10:21 AM
1

Also RBOMI.com for a list of mens issues (rbomi 2 coming soon.)
/r/MensRights06/10/18 10:13 AM
2

I dunno, feminists are pretty good to men on the topic of MGM. More often than not they oppose it.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 10:12 AM
-13

r/antifeminists, r/antifeminism
/r/MensRights06/10/18 09:59 AM
2

Suggestion: Blaming men for men's issues is victim blaming. would love to see the comeback list.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:56 AM
3

Dear god... How can I have been so wrong? What can I do to stop this?
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:55 AM
2

Buh... Buh... Buh... Very good, you did it.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:35 AM
4

That is just wrong, the foreskin is just a flap of skin. How dare you compare a useful and harmless surgery with the sexist mutilation of little girls! Man, this devil's advocate stuff is just fun.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:34 AM
0

Very good.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 05:39 AM
1

No, but you are if you are trying to distract from equality by whining about losing your privilege.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 05:39 AM
3

This is good, I like this one. Great prompt idea by the way, will add that to the list. !remind me 6 days
/r/MensRights06/10/18 05:38 AM
-1

Uh, no, it prevents HIV!
/r/MensRights06/10/18 03:37 AM
3

Yeah, but those are only a tiny fraction of domestic violence victims!
/r/MensRights06/10/18 03:37 AM
1

But men run the world, men don't have inequalities!
/r/MensRights06/10/18 03:36 AM
1

Yeah, and the underlying problem is the same problem as the underlying problem behind starvation being needing to eat.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 02:11 AM
0

If you say so, oh denier of high suicide rates.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 02:04 AM
2

rbomi.com is currently available, does that work on mobile?
/r/MensRights05/10/18 11:04 PM
2

Yeah, I have a long job ahead of me to right the wrongs of the past, for both projects. Battle Wiki was a Star Wars reference.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 10:18 PM
1

No content has yet been added, and any work done to the wiki will be done in a seperate environment. it is still entirely stable. The placeholders are old. I never touched those. The things you want me to revert have been on the wiki for years. The "broken content" has been on the wiki for twice as long as I have been on reddit. The current wiki will be available until it is replaced by the new wiki. I apologise for the current state of the wiki, but it is not my fault, If I had more volunteers,…
/r/MensRights05/10/18 07:52 PM
11

Almost perfect stats.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 09:37 AM
1

Shit dude. real nasty shit. Thank god for the agent eh?
/r/MensRights05/10/18 08:59 AM
1

!remind me 12 hours
/r/MensRights05/10/18 05:40 AM
1

The title of the post was extremely misleading
/r/MensRights05/10/18 03:10 AM
1

supposedly
/r/MensRights05/10/18 03:00 AM
0

Very true.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 01:14 AM
1

I do?
/r/MensRights05/10/18 01:05 AM
0

Defeated experience. I have had plenty success.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 01:04 AM
1

Not as of right now, no.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 12:32 AM
2

No, no I did not. Never mind then.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 08:36 PM
1

Yes, there is a plan to get both projects updated. Here is the plan as follows: Lift the wiki into a different subreddit to be worked on safely. Update sections 1-3 of the wiki. Begin collecting information for RBOMI 2.0, may require volunteers. ​ ​
/r/MensRights04/10/18 08:35 PM
1

Looking at you, you are acting like a right prick. So prick it be.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 08:32 PM
1

So pessemistic.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 08:30 PM
1

Should be. When I have time, but that is a luxury these days.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 08:30 PM
-2

Really great to see honestly. Potentially the start of feminist-MRA alliances EDIT: Well shit, I guess the title is misleading, because apparently the article says the complete opposite of the title.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:53 AM
7

The Spinoff NZ. No surprise there.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:50 AM
1

Unfortunately, I have no experience in that department, sorry. Might be able to do something once the technomababble is done.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:50 AM
2

I... didn't. It was probably one of those people who follow me around trying to make me look bad.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:32 AM
1

Yeah, free speech is great and all, and it has its place. But having hate speech on the front page hurts the group.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:28 AM
-8

The Right has investigated the Right and has found no evidence for allegations against the Right.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:23 AM
1

You americans. Honestly.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:20 AM
1

Since RBOMI 2.0 has been temporarily put on hold and I am no longer involved with MRAcentral (heck you), I can probably assist you with that. Make.sure to post this to MHRAconnect too. But what kind of help do you need?
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:18 AM
2

maybe a selfpost forum, a mensrightslinks forum, a memes forum, a news forum, and a screenshots forum? oh, and a meta forum.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 10:16 AM
1

Alright, first bit up now.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 06:56 AM
1

yeah, maybe you don't.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 06:46 AM
1

When the large majority of users here are right wing, yeah that is the definition of skewed.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 06:43 AM
1

the subreddit is skewed though.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 06:38 AM
1

Yeah, that is the point. To be more attractive to the users of menslib, we need to be more like menslib.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 05:41 AM
1

Oh dang, I had a list all,typed up as an edit. Must have forgotten to post.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 05:26 AM
5

Just because NB people are more comfortable being NB, that does not mean that there is a "destruction of gender " (whatever the hell that is) Good on you,for wanting to help men though.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 05:03 AM
1

I am not trying to subvert the damn sub. Fucking sick of assholes and trumpists accusing me of it.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:58 AM
0

The intent is for it to be seen.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:53 AM
0

It is a meta post though. Should go in r/mensrightsmeta, but that is dead
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:49 AM
1

your average feminist you find on Quora or reddit. They acknowledge that men have issues too.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:25 AM
0

perfect
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:24 AM
1

We are talking about normal feminists here, not CHS type feminists. Regular old feminists.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:08 AM
-1

Why?
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:31 AM
1

Feminists can be pro-men's rights too, though (I mean even the r/MensRights wiki clearly says this) ​ is not going to happen. Feminist activism and feminist political lobbying are major obstacles to men's rights. The sub is not anti-tradcon, yet they are even bigger obstacles to mens rights than feminists. ​ ​
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:31 AM
0

This is a major problem. Most pro-men's rights liberals are on our sibling subreddit (good analogy actually, closely related but enemies) r/menslib. If this subreddit wants to be more appealing to liberals, we need to take actions that are going to be seriously unappealing to this subreddit as a whole. Here is what I think needs to happen: We need to improve our moderation team. Free Speech only goes so far, and there are times where you see misogyny, misandry, and transphobia (and also racism) …
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:24 AM
3

So I did, thank you for noticing. Heil!
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:20 AM
1

i would not know, I have only been here for about a year and a half. So just after the trump election. ​ I think it is the strong antifeminism here that does it. A lot of left leaning people are pro-feminist, so you can imagine why this has happened.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:17 AM
1

There is a lot of defeatism In this thread, but i can that I have been successful in getting feminists to acknowledge men's issues. About 40% of feminists maybe, another 20% of which already realised that men had issues too (though i may have deepened their understanding) Here are my tips: Follow THESE RULES at all times. Don't be explicitly antifeminist. Be wholly neutral. Why would a feminist want to learn from somebody who hates them. Do not, under any circumstance, tell your partner in learn…
/r/MensRights04/10/18 03:04 AM
1

How am I a troll for wanting this sub to be a better reflection of the movement than it currently is?
/r/MensRights04/10/18 02:39 AM
1

"his traits" like what?
/r/MensRights04/10/18 02:25 AM
1

No, Trump supporters are gynotradcons because they support one of the most powerful GTC in america. if you support them, you are one.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 01:26 AM
1

You actively support 2 major GTCs. Trump and Kavanaugh.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:54 AM
1

well, fair enough.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:42 AM
1

Because I am on the interent. Something no unicorn has ever done. On the other hand, you have demonstrated previously that you are a gynotradcon.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:41 AM
0

As I said, you claim to not be a Gynocentric Tradcon, yet you are a regular on a subreddit dedicated to praising a gyntradcon, and you have expressed the wish for a gyntradcon to be the face of the MRM. So tell me again you are not a Gyntradcon yourself. I dare you to prove it.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:11 AM
0

96%, not 94
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:34 PM
2

New Zealand, yay
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:30 PM
2

We do not have mods. we have green-named commenters. Like, even a little moderation would be nice. Temp bans here and there, stop the memes, shut up about Kavanaugh for now.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:28 PM
0

So you actively support GynTradCons as the face of MR, yet you are not one yourself?
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:21 PM
1

Seriously, it is scary how often I check somebodys profile only to see TD. TRUMP IS BAD FOR MRAs IDIOTS
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:19 PM
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You R one of those TD losers. Shove off, trump and his kin are horrible to the MR cause. Gynocentric Tradcons the lot of them.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:13 PM
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It was not. Donnie is a known tradcon. Just because he was right once... There is a reason most big MRAs are nevertrump centrists
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:11 PM
1

The kavanaugh controversy has brought a scary number of TD users here. Strengthening the radicals
/r/MensRights03/10/18 11:02 PM
0

And? Quite irrelevant
/r/MensRights03/10/18 10:54 PM
1

even upvotes are not indicitave. I have seen transphobes get 80 upvotes
/r/MensRights03/10/18 10:47 PM
1

The correct version is at www.rbomi.com ....
/r/MensRights03/10/18 08:31 PM
1

*boy toy FTTF
/r/MensRights03/10/18 09:10 AM
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Ah, memories. So, who wants to update it? It would hopefully be added as the 'at a glance' section of The RBOMI 2: Electric Boogaloo. For those wondering, rbomi.com is basically a massive version of this.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 08:06 AM
3

r/intactivists
/r/MensRights03/10/18 07:50 AM
1

Damn, I like the new Imnotmrabut. Very sassy. Like the MRA contrapoints. Keep it up darling.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 07:47 AM
-1

Yes, vv new content wow
/r/MensRights03/10/18 07:44 AM
1

Oh wow, an inane feminist-bashing meme shitpost with a rule-breaking title that does nothing for the movement and is intended exclusively to farm worthless internet points. Oh, and it is from someone who is a regular on r/The_Donald, r/TheRedPill, and r/JordanPeterson. In other words a russian propoganist tradcon who is likely at least somewhat rapey. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:07 AM
0

They know, they are talking about making memes about politics in general.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 05:29 AM
2

I am neither a troll nor a bitch.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 10:33 PM
1

Nah. No bullshit here mate.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 09:13 PM
1

Nah, I am a MRA profeminist with a dick.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 09:11 PM
1

Is it tragically stupid to not stick your fingers in your ears when undeniable proof is shown?
/r/MensRights01/10/18 09:07 PM
1

Considering that it has been proven without doubt, you are the brainwashed one.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:58 PM
1

You unessecarily called me a troll, I pointed out that you are active on a literal propoganda channel
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:53 PM
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I am sorry, but as you were involved in the original incident you can not be classed as unbiased.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:51 PM
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Radfems are not going to happen again.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:40 PM
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I am not a troll, I am a regular MR user. I was simply agreeing with another reddit user. ​ You, on the other hand, are a T_D poster. This makes it far more likely that you are a troll.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:37 PM
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Except you already provided the first opinion, and I provided the second. What is needed is a 3rd party opinion. And your post broke several rules, and did not generate any discussion.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 08:33 PM
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Anyone is welcome to post there, as long as you make a post that fulfils the criteria. Your post did not do that. This post has been locked for the following reasons: The title of the post is sensationalised and factually incorrect. The post does not show an example of an MRA being racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic. If you would like to appeal this judgement, please send a message to the moderators of the subreddit. Thank you for your time. https://www.reddit.com/r/MRAsAgainstMRAs/commen…
/r/MensRights01/10/18 01:21 PM
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yep
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:33 PM
1

Very nice find. Do you mind if I use this as a source material for the Doc of Troof and RBOMI 2?
/r/MensRights01/10/18 10:43 AM
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Yeah, edgy teenagers like this are hardly going to be feminist leaders.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 10:25 AM
-1

Not-antifeminist PM squad Ahyyy ​
/r/MensRights01/10/18 07:49 AM
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Prove it.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 07:40 AM
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I never said I was right. It was simply my experience with the sub.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 01:59 AM
1

No, their opinions don't match with my personal stats ​
/r/MensRights01/10/18 01:28 AM
2

I'm sorry, but is the name really important ?
/r/MensRights01/10/18 01:27 AM
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I think that sometimes this sub takes free speech a little too far. For example, the mods don't actually do anything. Their job is literally to relax and let the shit wars rage on. Maybe a few temp-bans here and there (for example during this Kavanaugh thing) And some mods who removed harmful content. Even a little moderation is infinitely better than no moderation.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 01:10 AM
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I would say maybe 10-15% of this subreddit's active members are bad actors, at least from what I have personally seen.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:19 AM
1

Oh, it is one of Hadashis articles. Very nice, might use that in an argument some day.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:16 AM
1

Assumed innocent until proven guilty. That does not mean that it is definitely false until proven otherwise. "Here is an accusation without evidence" "the accusation is definitely 100% false" "it has evidence now" "but since it did not have evidence before, it is still 100% false. No room for truth in 100% lies"
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:12 AM
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No, a trans woman is a dudette who was once a dude. Different thing.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:10 AM
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If you read further down the thread, you can see the whole "birth over sex change" crowd piling in. Very concerning, and only the tip of the iceberg.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 11:31 PM
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They have not been proven to be true or false, so do not claim they are false. That is not how it works.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 11:30 PM
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And until she does, that does not mean the allegations are false. It means they are unproven. Different thing.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 11:30 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MRAsAgainstMRAs/comments/9kacrl/user_udam92_calls_transgender_woman_a_dude_gets/
/r/MensRights30/09/18 10:28 PM
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Would me showing you a transphobic comment that got 86 upvotes in 5 hours suffice?
/r/MensRights30/09/18 10:25 PM
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Let us remove this log from our eye first. This sub has a fair share of transphobes (over 80)
/r/MensRights30/09/18 10:07 PM
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Warren Farrell has it somewhere in The Boy Crisis. Will see if can find.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 10:01 PM
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Prove the allegations are false. EDIT: To be clear, I am not saying that they are true. I am pointing out that u/de_ganja_man claimed the allegations were false without evidence.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 09:51 PM
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Then you have the transphobe who gets 86 upvotes in 5 hours by calling a trans woman a dude. https://www.reddit.com/r/MRAsAgainstMRAs/comments/9kacrl/user_udam92_calls_transgender_woman_a_dude_gets/
/r/MensRights30/09/18 09:50 PM
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Well. 80 upvotes. How positively Transphobic of you.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 09:46 PM
1

NOW. https://www.nytimes.com/1981/03/22/us/women-join-battle-on-all-male-draft.html
/r/MensRights30/09/18 08:13 PM
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stupid term to describe the concept I know.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:29 PM
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45% seems about right then. Might need to rethink the 75 number later though.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:28 PM
1

Dems and "the left" and feminists can all be tradcons. ​ ​
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:22 PM
1

If you look, I do a breakdown further down the comment chain.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:19 PM
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Why are you politicising the argument? What does :the left" have to do with any of this.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:15 PM
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I am not politicising the argument. Feminists just don't have as much influence as you say. how is that political?
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:14 PM
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I had not seen it discussed, you found one hit from two years ago, whereas ML mods talk about it.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 02:21 PM
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Obviously. That is the only answer that fits my agenda.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:58 PM
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i accepted that, just pointing out that it is not as common as it should be. But you have to make a mountain out of a hole in the ground, huh?
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:57 PM
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Who said anything about becoming menslib? No, just police the radicals more.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:46 PM
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Very nice link, shame it is 2 years ago. needs to become a mainstream issue. Might put it in the RBOMI
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:46 PM
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reporting others will not do anything for us. Our only hope is to police the community.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:31 PM
1

Well you can't discuss those other two things in ML. I seen plenty talks of fatherlessness there. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9e1to2/dallas_officer_faces_manslaughter_charge_for Close but no cigar. 2 comment threads, one making some inane and irrelevant reference to TM and the other talking about their previous dating status. ​ ​
/r/MensRights30/09/18 01:30 PM
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Okay, and how does that affect actual men's issues. Because lets count them: (them being the 8 of the 10 challenges on the sidebar which can be blamed on somebody) Male Genital Mutilation - Circumcision This has been around for millenia, and has been pushed by Tradcons since forever. Feminists are very much split on this issue, and I challenge you to name one case where a feminist has been responsible for a law about MGM. 100% tradcon. Education Discrimination Education is traditionally women's …
/r/MensRights30/09/18 09:39 AM
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Feminism is second by far. I can name maybe 2 mens issues caused by feminism.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 08:19 AM
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Tradcons are the #1 enemy of MRAs. they cause almost all mens issues. Yes, liberals can be tradcons too.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 06:59 AM
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Yeesh dude, lighten up, people just joking around.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 06:36 AM
3

Fat controller = Thomas the tank engine. Weed = Dank
/r/MensRights30/09/18 04:02 AM
1

Why thank you, Fat Controller on weed.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:57 AM
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Welcome to #reclaimMRA. There are many of us who think this. We are rising up. #MRAsriseup
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:37 AM
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Nu Blyat! ​
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:36 AM
0

Humongous if affirmative.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:34 AM
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Supposedly falsely accused. Even the Ford accusations may be true.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:10 AM
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Radical anything is bad. Radical profeminists - bad. Radical antifeminists - bad. Radical Capitalist - bad. Radical Communist - bad. Radical Christian - bad. Radical athiest - bad. You see where I am going with this? ​ I am alright with normal MGTOW people, even if they are a little preachy. It is the radical (AWALT, misogynist, etc) MGTOWs that I hate.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:08 AM
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You're the one who threw a tantrum and declared you were leaving the "manosphere" forever. "tantrum" heh heh, and I never said forever. I'm sure they'll unban you if you show them your commitment to opposing mens rights. I did offer to leave this community so I could join that one, but they muted me, which is a shame. You mean just toxic masculinity forever and always? No, they do discuss other topics. Toxic Masculinity just turns up a lot because it is one of the Father Issues of the MRM, along…
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:05 AM
1

That would be stooping to their level.
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:02 AM
1

Nonono, the person who said "chameleon"
/r/MensRights29/09/18 09:12 PM
1

Another radical MGTOW person. Ugh. No, AWA NOT LT!
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:50 PM
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There are more that 2 of us!
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:40 PM
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r/mrasagainstmras post your findings here
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:39 PM
1

It kinda did.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:37 PM
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We all are. Every man, woman and child. Every man is a potential rapist. But not just the men, the women and children too!
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:34 PM
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Because you can be conservative without contributing to radicals. T_D is radical, not center.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:33 PM
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The quarantines were mostly enacted because of high numbers of reports. Given the userbase of Reddit, it is no surprise which groups got hit.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:32 PM
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Oh, hello u/5th_law. Good to see you are back. I am still banned from r/MensLib I find that while I like the atmosphere of r/menslib more, the range of discussions is much narrower. It is also interesting how they talk about police violence against men, but this sub does not
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:28 PM
1

So you are suggesting he was convicted before proven guilty?
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:26 PM
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Ay, mucho guano loco
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:26 AM
1

True, very true.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:25 AM
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Different experiences, I guess. Anyways, if you do find them post them to r/mrasagainstmras
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:25 AM
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Someone needs to document them I think.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:11 AM
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Black number determinism, as in pretending that we know the values of Black Numbers (numbers in which it is extremely hard or impossible to determine the correct value of, such as rape, false accusation, domestic violence, and other such statistics.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:08 AM
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I am not saying that the sub is hateful, I am simply pointing out that there is a not-insignificant faction here that is hateful.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:06 AM
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People worrying that r/MensRights is going to go the way of r/theredpill, r/watchpeopledie, and other subreddits hit recently. They want to call out negativity more.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 07:05 AM
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AWALT Black Number Determinism Feminism has always been evil *transphobia* Traditional Conservatism Happy Gen_law_kernels_robotics?
/r/MensRights29/09/18 06:33 AM
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My personal experiences, there is your citation. ​ You used to be genuine, Gen, but now you are turning into 5th_law.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 06:30 AM
2

The day before yesterday. my time at least. New Zealand time.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 06:30 AM
1

Very interesting. This is perfect! !remindme 6 days
/r/MensRights29/09/18 05:27 AM
1

Thank you. Do you have any suggestions for next week?
/r/MensRights29/09/18 05:17 AM
1

/s? Right? Please tell me that is meant to be ironic? ​
/r/MensRights29/09/18 04:55 AM
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I never said anything about killing people, so I fail to see your leap in logic
/r/MensRights29/09/18 04:55 AM
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Both.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 03:08 AM
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might want to direct this at Op, not me
/r/MensRights29/09/18 03:07 AM
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Do I? Was I complaining about the law?
/r/MensRights29/09/18 02:02 AM
2

same thing
/r/MensRights29/09/18 01:59 AM
1

ah k
/r/MensRights29/09/18 01:08 AM
1

r/mgtow2 is way better
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:51 AM
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Ask them, not me.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:38 AM
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Me? No, it is the article who is wrong. This article takes a firm look at reality, and turns it on it's head.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:38 AM
1

Might work, but can we just distance #himtoo and the MRM from Brett K, just for the time being? We still don't know whether the allegations are true or false, and it could go either way right now. ​ I think that we need to remove the log from our own eye before we remove the splinter from the eye of feminism.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:38 AM
1

I have met plenty, so that is interesting.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 12:27 AM
1

Not my post.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:25 PM
2

Yes. The comment in which I say that presumption of innocence ≠ definitely being innocent
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:13 PM
1

Which admission is this?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:11 PM
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No, it means he is treated like he is innocent and assumed to be innocent. I am,declaring that saying he is either guilty or innocent at this point is stupid.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:08 PM
2

I love how there is all out war here between left and right. Yall Ameriturds need to Get Your Shit Together.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:05 PM
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We are regulars, but we have been sleeping and letting the radicals run the sub. The normie regulars are rising up. Also, OP is a TD regular. Too many people here are proclaiming that he is innocent/guilty. Innocent till proven guilty does not mean he is actually innocent.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:04 PM
0

Don't worry, us normies are finally waking up to the fact that our sub has been a shitheap for years. #reclaimMR
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:00 PM
0

There has been a massive uptick of protest against the pieces of shit on this sub since Sep27. Maybe MRAs can reclaim the sub again. #reclaimMR
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:58 PM
4

You regularly post on r/TD, why should anyone in their right mind listen to you?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:56 PM
3

Op is literally a TD user.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:56 PM
1

UK. Ched Evans case is the first time the law was challenged and a females past was submitted as evidence. The fiance of the joined footballer found two guys who had fucked the supposed victim and spoke about the same positions and words the girls used that Ched also said she used, proving sex was consensual. That is absolutely nutters. The UK really does need to shape up.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:16 PM
1

To a degree yes. I have a strong dislike of Tradcons because 90% of men's issues are caused by tradcons or tradcons pretending to be feminists. On PUAs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTomsgnRZFk
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:16 PM
2

Generally bouncing around and reading some of the success stories. It seems like not all RedPillers are PUAs. So while I still think r/TheRedPill needs to shape up, I no longer feel like it needs to be removed.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:12 PM
1

I guess we have met different feminisms.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:07 PM
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Russians confirmed.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:03 PM
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I mean heck, given how the remaining population would be put in holiday,camps ans women would have to do the hard labour, I am down for that.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 10:02 PM
1

Very interesting, may I ask which law it is specifically, and in which country? A link would be wonderful.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:52 PM
2

Okay then. Which law is it, what country are you in, how would you change it, and how would it make men's lives better?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:46 PM
1

On the one hand, TRP is a men's self improvement group. On the other hand, it is polluted with neo-misogynist Tradcon-PUAs. I have read the subreddit,
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:40 PM
1

Yep. Had another peek, saw one or two things that changed my mind. The sub has a disease, but does that mean we should kill it to prevent the disease spreading? No, because when you kill the host the disease will spread to other subreddits. Better to cure the disease.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:37 PM
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For me, it would be the law in New Zealand that states that single males cannot adopt female children. I would change this law to state that a single person may not adopt a child of the opposite gender. ​ This would make men's lives better by adding a layer of protection to young boys from sexual assault that is currently afforded only to girls. ​
/r/MensRights28/09/18 09:32 PM
2

Not your fault, it died a long time ago.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 07:09 PM
1

Mythopoetic Men's Movement, one of the relatives of the mens rights movement.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 06:49 PM
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menslib is the pro-feminist counterpart to mensrights. If you are antifeminist, it might offend you.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 06:23 PM
4

I think that r/menslib has the right idea with heavily moderating the subreddit. It and r/FeMRADebates have a moderation style that may become necessary in the months to come. Free Speech subreddits are useless when the subreddit is banned.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 06:09 PM
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Yeah, that is not going to work without the mods stepping in instead of sitting on the sidelines. Too great a proportion of this sub can be called hateful.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 05:59 PM
1

Nah, MGTOW and Braincels still stand between,
/r/MensRights28/09/18 04:09 PM
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where else would I go? r/mensrights is terrible (as it is a political subreddit), but it is the best there is.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 03:20 PM
0

As evidenced by?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 03:19 PM
4

I am sorry to hear about that. May I ask why you didn't report?
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:47 AM
-4

Apparently I have missed a news update. Not american, so eh.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:47 AM
-3

Innocent until proven guilty. From what I have seen he is most likely guilty, but he still deserves basic human decency.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:33 AM
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Oh look, more MGTOW AWALT proto-misogynist bullshit. I found another one, boys!
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:32 AM
-4

Cool, I would support that as long as you do use positive feminism when discussing good feminism.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:30 AM
3

Bullshit. MRA is completely separate from TRP, and MRAs would be far better off without TRP/PUA bullshit floating around here. MRAs have never been involved with TRP, and to claim that they are is to associate the advocacy of men's rights with... RooshV and other such items. ​ Old-school TRP may have been an offshoot of MRAs, (MRAs came far far before TRP) but those who were in TRP for MRA content have moved off in favour of *ahem* less acceptable content.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:25 AM
2

r/watchpeopledie is the odd one out.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:22 AM
1

We can still go there happily.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:22 AM
0

r/FeMRADebates r/oney still survive the antifeminist onslaught. Welcome to not antifeminist hell.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:21 AM
-1

the mods need to actually start moderating.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:20 AM
1

KiA is safe, they work directly with the admins to protect themselves. I would recommend the r/MensRights mods take a leaf from r/KotakuInAction's book, but that would pretty much kill r/MensRights
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:20 AM
-1

r/RedPillWomen
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:16 AM
-5

Not nessecarily an alt-right sub, but most certainly PUA bullshit in the guise of "self improvement"/
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:15 AM
-5

It is sad to see reddit censoring subreddits. ​ I disagree with a lot of what TRP has to say, and I can see that there is quite a lot of misogyny there. But would it not be better to remove individual accounts than to throw the baby out with the bathwater? ​ EDIT: Oh look, downvotes.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:14 AM
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Fat chance bud. ​ Shame that this sub stoops as low as it's opponents, but hey, it is r/MensRights
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:13 AM
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Upvoted for being calm and rational. ​ subs like r/KotakuInAction work closely with the admins and moderate their sub quite strictly compared to most subs. This works because it shows that the subreddit is actively working to curb genuine harmful content. ​ Maybe r/TheRedPill should try that instead of being the stinking pile of crap it is today. ​ ​
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:12 AM
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Note that r/watchpeopledie is also quarantined, and r/antifeminists is not quaranited. Neither is r/MensRights. ​ r/theredpill unfortunately has become diseased with misogyny in the eye of the public. let's hope this subreddit does not become the same way. ​ Oh, and also heck admins for recommending that shitshow of a website.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:09 AM
2

Very well, an ambivalent sneer it is.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 04:42 AM
0

Different experiences, I guess.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:44 PM
8

Sure, I don't see why not.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:44 PM
-4

I entirely disagree. Quite a lot are pro-men's activism.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:18 PM
8

Tradcons pretending to be MRAs, am I right? Just like with feminism.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:17 PM
16

Because unfortunately there are a lot of right leaning people here (due to most anti-MRAs being left leaning, among other things) and this place is like 90% american (which is pretty much right=trump at this point. That, and there are several T_D users here. Way too many. ​ Join me, fellow non-americans, in laughing at America.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:17 PM
1

Which one are you talking about again?
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:43 PM
-6

Considering that there are plenty of comments calling this,sexist, comparing it to Nazi Germany, and downvoting OP (who is the reddit account of the news website) I would think that this is proof that feminists are for equality. Also, heck off u/dailydot
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:09 PM
2

Eminem is a sick fuck to rap an innocent woman.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:06 PM
1

male rape victims to #mentoo, false accusations to #himtoo, media calling rape sex/romp/seduction etc. to #rapenotromp
/r/MensRights27/09/18 08:03 PM
-4

Sounds like you are meeting only one group of feminists. 95% of the feminists I have met are not haters of men.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 07:59 PM
2

I have seen hate in r/mensrights. Transphobia is worryingly common here, and with how MGTOW and TRP have been bleeding over, misogyny is more common that I would like. Funnily enough, from my point of view the MRM is pretty much just like feminism.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 07:57 PM
33

because there are several accusers and reasonably stable stories. This sub was pro cosby until it became apparent he was guilty too
/r/MensRights27/09/18 07:08 PM
1

Given that I am talking about the stages of societies set out by Warren Farrell himself, yes I would expect you to know them. ​ http://qr.ae/TUGtUT http://qr.ae/TUGtUv http://qr.ae/TUGtUo ​ I have been told that I am not an MRA for supporting feminists. Surely I get to do the same to people who support TradCons and Gynocentrists?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 11:21 PM
1

Where did you get the idea that I was talking about the Kardashev scale? That is completely unrelated to what we are talking about. I mean, given how rabidly antifeminist you are there is no point talking about it with you. You are also a JBP fan, which completely destroys your credibility as an MRA. JBP supporters can not be MRAs.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 09:27 PM
-2

The privilege of being treated like an adult. Which is balanced by the female privilege of being treated like a child.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 08:32 PM
1

Social class?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 07:04 PM
2

Mothers and women are part of society, so it would make sense that they would be partially responsible for toxic masculinity. Fatherlessness does not help either.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 07:01 PM
-2

And how would you suggest that we get people to do that?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 06:54 PM
-2

And men have privileges that women lack. Everything is perfectly balanced.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 06:51 PM
1

If they were not, we would not have men's rights.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 06:48 PM
1

Getting laid is not everything in life.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 06:46 PM
0

Sounds like life has dealt you a bad hand mate. Nevertheless, your life would be different if you were a female. Better in some ways, worse in others.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 12:41 PM
-1

You can have a privilege in one area and a lack of privilege somewhere else.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 12:27 PM
-2

Okay, I am sorry to hear that. That is real bad luck but not relevant to the discussion. Privilege does not mean you will have a good life, it simply means that you do not have to deal with the problems of other groups.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 11:11 AM
0

You raise some valid points here, GenericAF. The concept of toxic masculinity is a stable and sound one, but you are right in pointing out that there are some people who call themselves feminists who misuse the term. How would you reccomment we save the term from people who misuse it?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 11:01 AM
1

That would be a form of.misandry, but also of Enforced Machismo.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 10:58 AM
1

Feminism did not make the term though.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 10:57 AM
11

Oh dear, here comes a person stupid enough to think that republicans are MRA people.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 10:52 AM
-2

That is not how privilege works, like at all.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 10:37 AM
0

The only way to look at male privilege is to recognize that every privilege afforded to men has an equal privilege afforded to women.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 10:37 AM
1

Twox.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 05:25 AM
1

Yes, sexual education content? She has a book about it now?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:48 AM
1

How was I duped?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:45 AM
-4

Holy Moley mate, little objectifying there eh?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:35 AM
-1

I am not a woman, so I can not suffer from toxic femininity. I note how you "call me out" on calling someone who has a different opinion a liar or hateful. Yet you ignore that they did it to me, and I was simply returning the favour. Also, "hur dur feminine men" I mean honestly.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:35 AM
2

Masculism, as in the term that was used before the split between the MLM and MRM, the term championed by Warren Farrell in The Myth of Male Power? That masculism? ​ And yes, I identified as feminist for a time. Not anymore though. ​ If you are one of the people offended by people calling toxic parts of masculinity toxic, I will use Enforced Machismo instead. Same concept, different spelling.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:33 AM
1

A society in which survival of the society is no longer the greatest priority. Warren Farrell explains it best in The Myth of Male Power.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:30 AM
0

I am not quite sure what you mean.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 04:27 AM
1

No, I never said gender studies. I am talking about social science in general. Warren Farrell and the like. Is Warren Farrell a gender studies professor? ​ You laughing at toxic masculinity is a direct parallel to a creationist laughing at evolution.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 02:00 AM
1

I do not judge people for being victims of Enforced Machismo. I merely recognise that they need help. Do you judge men who were falsely accused of rape to need help?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:57 AM
-1

A make believe concept that has been around for decades, is widely accepted by social scientists, and has a large body of proof? A concept which is, by all means, factually settled? It is no lie that there are elements of Machismo which are enforced on men, and which are harmful. Proving Toxic Masculinity is a lie is like proving Evolution is a lie. It is possible, but good luck because the body of evidence is there.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:50 AM
1

I am not the best, but I am most certainly better than somebody who makes judgements based on labels. It is logic. Not arrogance, logic. I never said I was your advocate. I have never pretended to be an advocate for u/standard_rules_apply, and I never will. I have claimed to be an advocate for men. Men as a social group.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:42 AM
0

"My own god damn movement" is Masculism. Not feminism, masculism.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:40 AM
2

Yes? And now society forces those "macho characteristics" on men, especially vulnerable ones. They do more harm than good in a Stage 2 society. Do we really want male disposability, male loneliness, internalised misandry, high suicide rates, etc? Because that is what you get when you mix a Stage 2 society with Stage 1 male gender roles.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:39 AM
1

Enforced Machismo is when society forces unhealthy gender role expectations on men. Internalised Misandry is when men do things that are harmful to men as a social group. ​ Enforced Machismo often causes Internalised Misandry, but not always and not the other way around.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:36 AM
-1

Alright then, what is the #1 cause of toxic masculinity?
/r/MensRights26/09/18 01:33 AM
10

Nice try yourself, to assassinate my character that is. I am a well known MRA pro-feminist. You can support woman's advocates and be a men's advocate at the same time. Plain and simple.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:57 PM
5

I never said I was your advocate. I am an advocate of men as a social class, just like you style yourself to be. You stop the hate. Only they who created the hate can stop it. I harbour no ill will towards you, merely to your opinions. You stop hurting people with your lies, the lies that are actually lies. ​ ​
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:48 PM
4

If it didn't have benefits, it would not have been the central idea pushed on men by society for millennia. Although it is good for the survival of a Stage 1 society, it (like homophobia and the like) is now no longer necessary, and does more harm than good.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:45 PM
5

http://www.fathermag.com/news/2778-stats.shtml
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:28 PM
-3

No, more just MRAs who understand the term are finally speaking out.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:25 PM
8

"feminazi regime" you can't make this up. ​ And no, it was created by men's advocates to discuss men's issues.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:23 PM
5

Correct. Because movements that are about fixing problems generally talk about problems.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 09:52 PM
9

I used wikipedia to source an argument? News to me! It seems that the first mention of Wikipedia here was by YOU of all people. Funny that. Hypocrisy, thou name art u/Standard_Rules_Apply
/r/MensRights25/09/18 09:51 PM
9

That's nice, dearie. You go back to the preschool playground now, I am sure you can actually make a decent argument against someone there.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 09:43 PM
11

I am not a feminist. How does the evolution of a stage 1 society prove anything about a society that is moving into stage 2? I don't really care about those points, they are not relevant to the conversation. Toxic Masculinity/Enforced Machismo causes a metric fuckton of societal issues. "Classic [male] Society" is just that, classic. It worked perfectly well for a stage one society, but then again so did male disposability, gynocentrism, male-only drafts, workplace discrimination and all the oth…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 09:41 PM
13

Are your phrases (like "fatherlessness" "male reproductive rights" "court bias") men's issues? Obviously not, because they are merely phrases. The only fee fees that are hurt right now are yours, because you realise you can no longer deny men's issues without looking like a hypocrite. The only victim mentality is the mentality of all MRAs after realising that, guess what, men have issues.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 09:29 PM
0

I disagree. That is a different term entirely. Valid, yes, but a different concept.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 08:45 PM
7

The phrase "toxic masculinity" was not made as a weapon. It was made as a tool to discuss men's issues, and it remains like that to this day. Sure, a few people misuse it, but the majority of users use it properly. It was put on Wikipedia because most things are on wikipedia. There is a Wikipedia page for most other men's issues cited here by MRAs, so why can't this particular men's issue be allowed to have one? I don't use Twitter, I mostly hang around Reddit and Quora. I am an MRA. I acknowled…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 08:13 PM
15

Given that the comment of yours I replied to explicitly stated that Hegemonic Masculinity was the Marxist one, I think you are just saying that for the sake of argumentation. I am not using it as an attempt to distance myself from toxic masculinity, as that would be like somebody here distancing themselves from The Draft or Fatherlessness or Court Bias. Toxic masculinity is a concept that should be supported by all, instead of being ignored and ridiculed by those who are supposed to be helping m…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 08:04 PM
-6

I say it once and I will say it again Fatherlessness is the #1 cause of Toxic Masculinity
/r/MensRights25/09/18 07:34 PM
1

Okay, you kinda lost me here. I agree with your original statement, but not this.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 07:32 PM
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Hegemonic Masculinity is a completely separate term to Toxic Masculinity. How you conflate a Marxist garbage heap to an important mens issue is beyond me.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 07:31 PM
15

Exactly. The people here often misuse the word in order to dismiss it through malicious reasoning. Fathers provide positive masculinity, and people without positive masculinity are far more suceptible to Enforced Machismo
/r/MensRights25/09/18 07:29 PM
1

Probably the mods ​
/r/MensRights25/09/18 06:42 PM
-1

No, not The Bell Curve. That book is actually racist.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 12:23 PM
3

Nowhere, but the constitution is not all america has.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 11:59 AM
1

Salem. Why is it always Salem.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 10:09 AM
33

Nice. TwoX showing it is not all bad after all.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 05:34 AM
-2

Incorrect.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 01:46 AM
1

No, no I am not. Although yes, I am not LGBTphobic
/r/MensRights25/09/18 01:24 AM
-2

Feminists != feminism. Feminism is the advocacy of womens rights, but not all feminists follow feminism.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 12:33 AM
1

No, no, no, he most certainly is not.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 12:30 AM
1

Nope. It has really fallen in recent months. One on the front page at best.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 12:29 AM
-3

I mean, yeah? It is anti-feminist, so I included it in the list. I note you are not complaining about MGTOW or MRAs being included, so do you think that Incels are NOT anti-feminist?
/r/MensRights24/09/18 11:17 PM
1

Because since the variance is so high, you have to choose some set. The 2-12 number is the one that occurs far more often than any other, so as of now that set makes the most sense.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 11:16 PM
-1

I mean yeah, they kinda are. Feminism is the advocacy of womens rights.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 11:15 PM
-1

I know because that is what the statistics say. It is incredibly easy to determine that, just by looking at the court system. If it is proven false BRD, then the court will know. ​ I have empathy for both victims of rape and victims of sexual assault.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 09:55 PM
0

I mean, many of those subs are huge and very visible. Some (like r/KotakuInAction) work directly with admins. ​ You know what, I am going to reddit request r/antiMRA right now. MRAs criticising MRAs, here we go.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 09:18 PM
-3

From what I have seen, AMR is not anti-men's rights but rather anti-r/mensrights Sometimes they successfully call out some of the sexist bullshit on this sub, but usually they miss. Maybe we should start our own AMR to prove that MRAs can critique the bullshit found on r/MR better than anti-MRAs can. ​ Also, anti-feminist subs exist. r/antifeminists r/antifeminist r/AntiFeminismAU r/AntiFeminismAU r/Feministpassdenied r/MensRights r/TumblrInAction r/KotakuInAction r/NoFeminismNo r/redpill r/RedP…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 08:55 PM
2

r/antifeminists r/antifeminist r/anti_feminism r/AntiFeminismAU
/r/MensRights24/09/18 08:47 PM
3

r/AMRsucks exists ​
/r/MensRights24/09/18 08:46 PM
2

No, He really is not
/r/MensRights24/09/18 07:18 PM
-2

Truth gets banned, but lies get downvoted. Only 2-12% of accusations are proven false BRD.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 07:18 PM
-4

So how does society enforce "An inability to accept responsibility or personal agency" on women? How does it directly harm women?
/r/MensRights24/09/18 12:20 AM
1

Well, lets hope the dream comes true. It would be nice, but it is gonna be a few decades
/r/MensRights22/09/18 08:00 AM
6

Agreed. Without abortion, we could not have mens reproductive rights
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:35 AM
1

In the case where MRR only happens before the abortion deadline, yes. problem is, that might not happen
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:29 AM
-1

Those are a pipe dream at best.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:28 AM
1

You too.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:27 AM
1

In,that case no
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:24 AM
1

It is not a simple question. And it depends on how far along the baby is
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:18 AM
1

It deserves a crime of its own
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:12 AM
0

A fetus is a pre-child though. It is a child only after it is born.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:10 AM
0

Isn't that a fetus not a baby?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:05 AM
1

at what point does the fetus become a baby?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 04:00 AM
1

Why do you consider it murder?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:55 AM
3

Good for you. Still does not excuse the fact that you want inequality.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:51 AM
3

Call out that BS then.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:46 AM
3

Okay, that is gonna be a no from me dawg. Abortion may not be rainbows, but having mens reproductive rights without an abortion is, quite frankly, disgusting. Honestly, what is going on in your head?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:45 AM
0

Yeah, but that would be removing womens reproductive right. You are asking for mens right to overpower womens right that is not right., Male reproductive rights should NEVER prevent abortion. Men should never get a say in abortion (at least until artificial wombs are a thing) Men's reproductive rights should only exist in a world where women have full reproductive rights. It disgusts me that you think that anybody deserves the right to stop somebody else from having reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:34 AM
4

I am alright except for one bit. How on earth do you think that male reproductive rights would stop abortions? If anything it would increase.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:22 AM
2

good bot
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:08 AM
2

Excuse me, WTF is that link? I mean, link a study not a cancer.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 03:07 AM
4

I have found that there are ways to discover rape happened other than through a police report. Surveys and through friends are 2.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 02:59 AM
9

To be fair, this sub often cites the 70% of DV number, which is based off of the same logic. We also know that only 1-2% of male victims of DV report it. how do we know that?
/r/MensRights22/09/18 02:53 AM
35

"black culture" lazy fathers, gang violence, police violence, it being harder for black men to support their family financially, terrible court system, problems with birth control, etc. The perfect shitstorm.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 02:49 AM
2

Hey, at least you survived that long. r/feminisms might still take you, and I know r/FeMRADebates would absolutely love you.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 02:40 AM
1

New Zealand. Best for womens rights, and now one of the top for men. Shame we do not have any DV shelters yet,
/r/MensRights17/09/18 07:29 PM
1

Eh, I never said O would never post here again. All my interactions are in this thread, because I am not going to deny you all of content.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 07:28 PM
0

Sort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uqkngQ61ao&feature=youtu.be
/r/MensRights17/09/18 08:07 AM
2

Just uploaded to Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uqkngQ61ao&feature=youtu.be Starts at 30 seconds
/r/MensRights17/09/18 08:07 AM
1

I haven't slept in days. I know what I saw. Will post a link once that is up (not sure how long it takes things to get onto TVNZondemand... Probably within 24 hours.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 06:36 AM
1

Very good, although we must acknowledge that the percentage of abusers that are male increases as the severity increases.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 10:40 AM
0

Opa!
/r/MensRights15/09/18 10:38 AM
1

Him is a gender neutral word in proper grammar? Considering that "proper grammer" is not actually a thing, and so that anybody who has used it that way in the last few hundred ways very much is Ubarformal, I hate to say it but language has evolved since the 1500s. ​ Grammar Nazi, more like Grammar Roman.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 10:31 AM
1

If you say,so
/r/MensRights12/09/18 08:34 PM
0

Aye, satirically. But you believed it.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 08:05 AM
0

I never said it was proof you hated women. It is proof that there are sexists.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 06:35 AM
1

I extrapolated it to the whole sub?
/r/MensRights12/09/18 04:52 AM
1

"Consent to touching is not consent to intercourse, retard. No still means no. I can even, and you might have trouble with this one, say, “Hey I don’t want to have sex, but you can finger me.” Maybe that f2m trans would be more to your liking. It seems like there's nothing for the guy in getting together with you except getting hot and bothered then dumped." ​ ​ Apparently it was techineuro, not mwobuddy. Sorry, mwobuddy was further down the thread.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 02:51 AM
0

Yawn, the old "dig through somebodies post history" creepshow. Honestly.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 02:48 AM
1

Are you sure? Why would a feminist be trolling another feminist? Do you have evidence that MWObuddy is a feminist?
/r/MensRights12/09/18 02:34 AM
1

Fire keeps you warm, when properly handled.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 02:32 AM
0

First of all, yes the people on this sub have a tendency to attack ML. Second, how about... https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8eiszk/im_a_feminist_that_got_banned_from_rfeminism/dxz1kt5 ​
/r/MensRights12/09/18 02:30 AM
1

Aye.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 01:34 AM
0

Interesting. The people on this sub attack menslib but react like this to being attacked. ​ This sub is not full of them. There are more than there should be though,
/r/MensRights12/09/18 01:33 AM
1

We will see. We. Will. See.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 01:00 AM
1

They do seem to accept those issues, from what I have seen. They are less anti-circumcision than here, respecting the feelings of those who were consensually circumcised (but they are fairly anti-baby-cutting). I can't speak about the feminist ideas being debated part personally. ​ Then again, this sub is full of woman-hating bigots, so whether all of the contributions from here will be in good faith is unlikely.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 12:59 AM
4

It is his reddit username too, and visible at the bottom of rbomi.com. u/nicholasramsey is here to save the day. ​
/r/MensRights11/09/18 07:51 AM
1

Well, I was planning on working with you... After I got that ban lifted. Guess not. Ah well, it was worth a shot to try and diversity the input into the RBOMI. Thanks anyways for telling me I am never welcome ever. I would still like to work with MensLib though. I think that it is a great community (aside from the r/menslib v r/mensrights drama) and would still like to participate.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 07:07 AM
0

Yes, out of context comment of the year. ​ And note how my rant tone is different to my informative writing.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 04:52 AM
1

That one period of time in which we were quite happily chatting, yes. Yes, that actually makes sense. He was too busy talking to me to ban me.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 04:51 AM
1

Note he did not ban me straight away. He waited. For several days.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 04:37 AM
-1

All input is properly vetted for bias. The challenge I face is removing all references to identifiable groups before the information goes live. Egalitarians are a great bunch, don't get me wrong, but they are not free of bias. My intent with involving the extreme ends of the spectrum is to gather information on men's issues that may have been looked over by moderates. I plan to have a number of users from r/menslib, r/mensrights, r/Egalitarianism, and r/FeMRADebates look through the sections bef…
/r/MensRights11/09/18 01:38 AM
1

Eh, this "pattern of behaviour" is mighty flimsy. I was hoping to end the relationship on good terms, but I guess that is not what you want. I really do not care whether r/mensrights is anti-MLA or whatever. The RBOMI is not affiliated with the MRM, and as such any content taken from r/menslib volunteers (which is properly vetted in the same way that content from sources like r/MensRights is) is not being injected into the MRM.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 01:11 AM
0

Yes, it did look bad didn't it. The one conversation. The rest of the twitter history, eh not so bad.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 01:03 AM
1

It was deleted (for good reason) so no. ​
/r/MensRights11/09/18 01:02 AM
1

I am involving menslib for two major reasons: r/menslib has a different perspective on men's issues to r/MensRights, and that is something that would be good for the RBOMI. The RBOMI is a resource for men's advocates, not just MRAs. MensLib have just as much right to contribute in good faith as MRAs.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 12:59 AM
2

I think they should PM you over reddit?
/r/MensRights10/09/18 09:19 PM
1

Books
/r/MensRights10/09/18 09:02 PM
2

Aye, but I think that as long as I check everything first, they may produce some good information. No problem Have a great day.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:53 PM
2

I think that you need to link your reddit account to your MHRAconnect account
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:51 PM
1

Gynocentrism intensifying with stricter gender roles only happens in certain societies. European society has been more gynocentric for quite a while as compared to countries like Saudi Arabia. Women, throughout history, have had more freedom and have been more valued in Europe as compared to SA. Why, I have no idea. I am no professional. ​ ​
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:43 PM
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I was planning to add some more studies, more men's issues (including some more societal issues, but I will probably work with menslib on that), as well as information from books like The Boy Crisis. It has been several years since the RBOMI was last edited, and it really needs a makeover.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:39 PM
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Riiiiiiight,
/r/MensRights10/09/18 08:03 AM
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Surprise surprise, the profeminist MRA is profeminist. Your question: The difference is that feminists focus on women.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 05:48 AM
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Ding-ding-ding, That's a strawman. ​
/r/MensRights10/09/18 05:02 AM
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Ew, KIA. I used to hang there, but it is a right boring place with the muh SJWs all the time. ​
/r/MensRights10/09/18 04:52 AM
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Not quite. Makes sense an antifeminist MRA would say that though. Being a profeminist MRA is the least moronic position on feminism an MRA can take.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 04:52 AM
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I know of several MRAs who did actually participate in the accusation spam. I do disagree with the Occidental system, but the actions taken were not good.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 02:31 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 02:29 AM
2

Aye, that is the current address.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 02:29 AM
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Cheers Goodmod, will do.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 02:28 AM
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Hey there! I am this subreddits token pro-feminist MRA. Nice to meet you. ​ So the topic of patriarchy is an interesting one to me. ​ The way I see it, there are two kinds of patriarchy, each with varying strengths in different locations. For example, America is a Gynocentric Patriarchy, and a relatively weak one at that. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is an Androcentric Patriarchy, and quite a strong one. ​ So. Is patriarchy an evil? Well, no. It is how our people (the human people) survived …
/r/MensRights10/09/18 02:27 AM
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Thank you
/r/MensRights10/09/18 01:45 AM
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I never said it was bad. It would be a B+ or A- in tbe US. Good, but there are no other films to judge it off. I did not make them up. They exist. And I did not say it was not feminist enough. It did not give the feminists a chance. Overall a good film, but room for improvement
/r/MensRights10/09/18 12:34 AM
2

MRAs are not at war with feminists. Some MRAs are at war with feminists, others are supportive of feminists.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 11:31 PM
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I am fairly sure that 90% of the community has seen that movie now. Personally, I find that it was a good movie, but it had three major flaws: It focused too much on Paul Elam. Elam is one of the worst big MRAs, and it is tiring to see him held up as an example of MRAs time and time again. It was very feminist-negative. I know a lot of MRAs are antifeminist, but it is like Cassie did not even try to find a feminist who cared about men's issues. The few feminists she interviewed were either incom…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 10:05 PM
2

Ah, right. Let us force him out! Shoo. Shoo. Go away. Shoo.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 08:57 PM
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You are going down to downvote town, baby.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 08:38 PM
2

Writing from his perspective, which is a British perspective. Terrible troll.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 08:36 PM
1

Доверяй, но проверяй people, it is not hard. Not hard at all.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 08:04 PM
1

interesting. Now, the question next needed to be asked is: Do male politicians receive more abuse because of their gender than female politicians?
/r/MensRights09/09/18 08:02 PM
1

See you.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:54 PM
1

will,PM a copy. stop commenting
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:52 PM
1

No, I am calling the person shit, based on your evidence. I would take a break if you would stop pounding me with notifications.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:52 PM
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But when that criticism calls me anti-male, that makes it hard to believe
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:49 PM
1

I did. Yesterday, through Reddit Chat
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:48 PM
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even turds can be fertiliser for good ideas. As I have told you, I am taking a break from the manosphere. Please stop communicating with me.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:45 PM
1

Strawmans from the man who does not know when they are talking to the wind.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:44 PM
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As I have told you, I am taking a break from the manosphere. Please stop communicating with me.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 01:43 PM
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yawn
/r/MensRights07/09/18 03:35 AM
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I am going to have to block,you if you,do not stop talking.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 03:35 AM
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nah
/r/MensRights07/09/18 12:29 AM
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no, banning active discrimination is good. Your choice, ban sexism or allow ladies nights
/r/MensRights06/09/18 11:18 PM
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yawn. Argument of incredulity
/r/MensRights06/09/18 11:17 PM
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No, not Julia. Being antifeminist is why so many feminists are antimra. and being antimra is why so many MrAs are antifeminist. circular
/r/MensRights06/09/18 11:17 PM
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I listen. The things people claim (like claiming it is a bigoted term) prove it.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 11:15 PM
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The ones I have talked to dont
/r/MensRights06/09/18 11:14 PM
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I am sorry, little one. I have failed you. Look, Gen, you are a fantastic person. Out of all of those who disagree with me, you have been the only polite one. You have helped me form my arguments. Thank you. ​ I will be leaving the Manosphere now. I do not know when I will come back. I might not even come back at all. But thank you. Have a great life.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 08:02 PM
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i hate to say it, but just talking to the people here is proof enough.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:56 PM
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We might not be able to do that.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:39 PM
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Nah, they do not. And no, enforced machismo is not a parallel to nefarious jews.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:38 PM
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CAFE. I have talked to feminists who donated to CAFE, after knowing that it was an MRA thing. ​ Most feminists oppose MRAs for the reasons of our own actions (like being rabid antifeminist) or that they are uneducated. ​ So much potential.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:38 PM
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More an authority than 90% of the people here.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:32 PM
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I rebranded because people got triggered by the old phrase. I do not talk about "toxic gender roles" because it is not gender specific. Women have their own phrase. Enforced Marianismo (yes, marianismo is the female version of machismo. The more you learn.) Each gender is affected differently by their problem. Men are affected more, as women are (currently) more liberated from the feminine gender role than men.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 07:31 PM
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Banning upskirting, good. Banning misogyny, neutral. Banning "misogyny", bad
/r/MensRights06/09/18 06:48 PM
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Holy fucking cheesecakes in a henhouse. That is not a school. That there is a re-education center. Teacher is most likely a MIERF. The kids have never heard opposing viewpoints to the "wimmin oppressed, mens r hav it eazy" drivel. My only advice is this: If there is a project in that class, do mens issues. Preferably MGM. And report that teacher for gross negligence to correctly educate.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 06:44 PM
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Remember the white house council for.men and boys? me neither.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 06:39 PM
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Again, I encourage others to use the newer term. However, that does not invalidate the old term. The two terms have the same meaning. The word is not intended in an offensive way. It is not offensive. It is not the best term, but it is functional. Encourage feminists to use the newer term, but do not tell them they are wrong for using the old one.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 12:15 AM
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Yeah, especially since I have told you what it means on several occasions
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:43 PM
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I have. I have shared the actual meaning on several occasions. ​
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:43 PM
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The author does not know what toxic masculinity is. And they know this, And they deleted the answer.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:38 PM
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Except 90% of toxic masculinity users state that by definition, toxic masculinity only means that some masculinity is unhealthy. ​ As in, there is both good and bad in masculinity. But the author strawmans toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:37 PM
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aye.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:36 PM
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As evidenced by complaining about people minimising men's issues and saying that normal MRAs and normal feminists can work together.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:34 PM
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I have changed the word I use. I now use Enforced Machismo. ​ I changed the term I use because some people are unable to understand the meaning of the original phrase, which I will not mention here because I might offend somebody. ​ There is an issue. Believing in that issue does not have to stop because people get offended by the word used to describe the issue.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 09:54 PM
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Technicalities at this point. Most people use "pedo" to refer to sexual predators. It is incorrect, but hey, this sub calls male sexual assault victims rape victims.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 09:47 PM
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Poor logic. I believe in Enforced Machismo specifically because I care about men. ​
/r/MensRights05/09/18 08:44 PM
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That, or I genuinely care about men.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 07:20 AM
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It is 2:31 long
/r/MensRights05/09/18 06:31 AM
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That is not a URL shortener, that is the Quora link share default. #norwayisgood ​ Yeah, there is a number of people who think that mens issues are exclusively social. Which is probably why the MLM is pro-feminist, whereas the MRM is feminist-neutral.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 06:30 AM
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http://qr.ae/TUNOy0
/r/MensRights05/09/18 05:44 AM
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Somebody does not know what TM is. Sigh. ​
/r/MensRights05/09/18 05:01 AM
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What.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 04:59 AM
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r/menkampf
/r/MensRights05/09/18 04:10 AM
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I tried asking that. Feminist provided a number of examples of shelter opening, law changing etc. What now?
/r/MensRights05/09/18 03:22 AM
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sounds like gay rights. also check out the Cassie Jaye of the same topic
/r/MensRights04/09/18 11:29 PM
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The Red Pill is the no 1 MRA doco. You are the one saying that women do not get a say in mens issues
/r/MensRights04/09/18 08:13 AM
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Cassie Jaye. She made a literal documentary. She is one of the most knowledgeable MRAs there is. I would listen to her over an anti-MRA man.
/r/MensRights04/09/18 12:48 AM
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My problem is that ITT you were saying that things other than explicit consent equaled consent.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 09:45 PM
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Yes?
/r/MensRights03/09/18 09:40 PM
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Feminists doing bad things does not make all feminists bad. ​
/r/MensRights03/09/18 09:26 PM
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She is never asking for it unless she, you know, asks for it.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 09:26 PM
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Opression olympics?
/r/MensRights03/09/18 09:10 PM
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You know I have seen all those examples before, right? I mean. showing me the same old crap does not change a thing. ​ NORWAY! Here’s a few examples from Norway of sexism towards men that Feminism in Norway has contributed towards reducing or solving: Previously rape was defined so that only female victims and only male perpetrators were recognized. That law got changed so that male victims (and female perpetrators) are recognized. Previously, shelters and other resources for people who are the …
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:53 PM
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Is that what it is now? I mean, you are the infamous troll mwobuddy, makes sense you should do something like this.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:51 PM
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No, I would visit several people who are well known and very knowledgeable, who are some of the best the MRM has to offer. I would visit mostly for Cassie, Warren, and Erin. Barbara, Karen, and Candice I am not really fans of. I hate to say, but the gender of the person talking about somebodies issues is not relevant. Women are the best MRAs. Men are the best feminists. ​ And you, Mr judging people on their genitals, are an idiot.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:50 PM
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Toxic Masculinity is not based of Dwork-woman. It is from the MMM. It is valid. Rape culture, both in the original and modern sense, is valid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxEyWE0-cU Patriarchy - Gynocentric patriarchal society theory.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:47 PM
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We have not dome much in general.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:45 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/comments/9bbp7i/feminists_what_do_you_see_as_issues_in_society/e5252bp ​ For your reading pleasure.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:44 PM
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In that case, Camille Paglia is an idiot.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:35 PM
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sorry, did not have time to finish,
/r/MensRights03/09/18 08:08 PM
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"Being less than a certain amount of anti-feminist makes me, from a practical perspective, uninterested in men's rights." I suppose that may be one way of looking at it. There are definitely feminists who have done negative things to the state of Men's Rights. Because when you look at what is causing these issues, particularly 3.2, 3.3, 4.6, 6.6, parts of 3.1, and arguably 6.7 and 4.2 -- well, those issues don't exist without feminism. And that's not small stuff, some of that is top 5 list and t…
/r/MensRights03/09/18 06:24 AM
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Except I agree with most MRA positions. I defend decent people. Some of those decent people are feminists. I often advocate things that help men. ​ So what is your point?
/r/MensRights03/09/18 02:14 AM
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No, that is not it at all.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 02:10 AM
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Yes. I have proven so time and time again.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 10:04 PM
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Words have meanings. your life does not.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 09:57 PM
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Projection. I am not anti-MRA.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 09:57 PM
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I am more into the concern bit tho.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 09:56 PM
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Correct. I also identify as Concern Troll on weekends.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 09:17 PM
1

Very well, hun.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 09:16 PM
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My pronouns are Feminist, Tone Police, and Misandrist.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:45 PM
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If you say so dearie. I am pretty much done talking to you. There is no point continuing, because you are too anti-feminist to ever have your mind changed.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:40 PM
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Except "rights" does not just mean legal rights.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:36 PM
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Nope. How long have you been on this sub? About, say, 8 months. I have been antifeminist from about 2 years ago to maybe 6 months ago. Then I talked to feminists in a discussion, not a debate or argument. Women aren't facing anything men aren't also facing, Factually incorrect. Women's unique issues still exist. and men are facing them to a much larger extent. Fucking bullshit. Do some research, men are not always the victims. Then you are horribly misinformed. That, or you could be wrong. But y…
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:35 PM
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I hate to say, but "gormless" is hardly a polite way to say that somebody else is at fault. ​ I am pointing out the fault in associating the biggest potential ally/enemy of our movement with a few sexists. ​ I hate to say it, but we need to walk on eggshells like Farrell did a little longer.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:29 PM
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I never said I identified as an SJW. ​ I am pointing out that if we go with the content of this biased bingo, a significant portion of this subreddit would count as SJW.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:24 PM
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I have seen people here use some of those. (ie educate yourself) I know for a fact that at least one thing there is right (toxic masculinity) and several others are right when used in context (rape culture, patriarchy, etc) Does that make me a SJW? And does it make this sub a SJW hub? Are we all SJWs on this blessed day?
/r/MensRights02/09/18 07:39 PM
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Idiots are pro-feminist, then you take the red pill and become antifeminist. But a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,
/r/MensRights02/09/18 06:36 AM
1

But what if somebody who has met a blingblong exists?
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:27 AM
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I have the experience though. It is why I am pro feminist.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:26 AM
1

Absolutely correct (aside from the fact that white nationalism is inherent)
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:17 AM
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I think you will find I am neither of those things. ​ "feminism" is a label. Labels do not have leaders. ​
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:10 AM
1

Majority is almost definitely the former. There are some specific issues (DV, false rape allegations, patriarchy) where people tend more towards the latter. Yeah. Unfortunately that doesn't help the MRM much, since most of those people seem to want to continue to defend that part of feminism and the NOW in particular even after the actions of the NOW are explained to them. I think that one potential problem is that MRAs often act in a hostile manner while conversing with feminists, which often r…
/r/MensRights02/09/18 04:40 AM
1

Correction, feminists are fighting for womens rights.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 04:26 AM
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Except that's exactly what we're talking about here. Feminists aren't advocating for equality. Quite the opposite. Riiiight. They are advocating for womens rights. You'll do your usual "no true feminist" Here we go again... Then I'll ask for examples of any feminist organization that matters (is actually enacting policies) that is advocating for equality. I point out that the MRM has the exact same problem, and that it is hypocritical for you to denounce feminism. You will obviously be unable to…
/r/MensRights02/09/18 04:21 AM
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I have not decided anything. The ones in power, in charge of feminism gets to decide what the movement is doing and what it is standing for. Feminism is not a movement, and it does not have leaders. We should not change feminism, we should abandon it. It is a hateful movement from the moment it was born. No amount of reasonable feminist will change that unless they actually do take seat in powerful positions: which they won't, because the current feminists won't let them. They get to decide who …
/r/MensRights02/09/18 04:15 AM
1

Except you make a false distinction between feminists and segregationists here.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 04:12 AM
1

And by more palatable you mean not interested in men's rights. Well, I actually meant less abrasive and anti-feminist (why would feminists support anti-feminists), but hey, you do you.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 02:21 AM
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Which is completely redundant because "reasonable feminists" are not feminists. And you, an anti-feminist, get to decide this why? Because real feminism is not and never was about gender equality. So No True Feminist is supportive of equality? You have decided that feminism is only real feminism when it is not about gender equality? Why can't feminists decide that real feminism is about gender equality? The feminists in power in the political and academic fields are the radical "killallmen" femi…
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:55 AM
1

Heh. How applicable.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:49 AM
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Nope, they don't have the same aims. Both want equality as the aim. Seems pretty similar. And feminism has already accomplished most of their aims, judging by their privileges. Correct, but there are still women's issues. Of course, but the difference is we're being honest. Are you though? Feminists would say the exact same thing, and I am just as inclined to believe feminists as I am to believe MRAs. Stop trying to convince me otherwise, dude. You seem to be doing your best to convince me that …
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:48 AM
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The primary concern should be to protect both innocent accusation victims and genuine rape victims. False accusation victims are not more important than genuine victims. Доверяй, но проверяй
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:39 AM
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500k is pretty great for any identity based advocacy, doubly so for gender advocacy. AFAIK, there isn't a feminist organization worldwide that has half the power of that beast. And that beast has the MRM pretty pinned down atm as far as even the most obvious, non-controversial legal reforms go. I would bet my money that most of that 500k is ignorant of what the NOW is really up to, or has been brainwashed into believing that the actions of the NOW are rightful and just. Perhaps a more effective …
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:37 AM
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No, you can't. The two movements are diametrically opposed to each other. They are actually pretty parallel. The key difference is we want true equality, and we don't blame all women for the sins of feminism. Feminists would argue the same. ​
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:21 AM
2

The more we ignore him, the better for everyone.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:20 AM
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We should recognise that most feminists are sympathetic to men's issues. We can oppose hateful individuals, but not against groups that are diverse in their beliefs.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:18 AM
1

I do not "no true feminist". I "not all feminists" and "not a good feminist"
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:17 AM
1

Not MRAs per se, but I know that plenty of mainstream feminists would support the MRM if it was more palatable.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:16 AM
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While he may be genuine to some degree, his actions (such as not even trying to gain access to his own children, among other things) show that he is nowhere near the quality of MRA that we want.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:15 AM
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Honey, the "you will understand when you are older" meme is condescending and an ineffective debate tactic. I went from anti-feminist MRA to pro-feminist MRA when I bothered to take a look at what feminists go through,
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:04 AM
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Funnily enough, you can. The toronto protests prove nothing other than that antiMRA propoganda is strong. And on the other side, you can be pro-feminist without being anti-MRA
/r/MensRights01/09/18 08:55 AM
1

Yeah, been working on exporting some of the content due to problems with the Reddit wiki.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 08:44 AM
1

I am sorry? You do not know two of the most influential MRAs? Next you will tell me you have never heard of ICMI before. ​ So misandrists and anti-MRAs? Those are the other side?
/r/MensRights01/09/18 08:43 AM
1

yeah. Largest feminist organisation in the US. Not exactly a hard thing to be. ​ Also, stalking? Really? You too?
/r/MensRights01/09/18 08:42 AM
1

Mike B and Elam come to mind. And who exactly is this mythical "other side"?
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:49 AM
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No, there are several differences.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:48 AM
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Did you seriously just link to the old RBOMI?
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:44 AM
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They're normal people. Can you really say the feminists that have actual prominent positions aren't hate filled. I can say that there are MRAs in prominent positions who are hate filled.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:43 AM
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Sweden is not as bad as you say source-swede. Literally 95% of what feminism has done is positive. Most feminists i have talked to disavow misandrists all the time.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:32 AM
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I think it is that there are a number of things this community has done wrong for our self image. Being so rabidly antifeminist is among them.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:04 AM
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You are the naive one, "the impossible one". Sure, a few feminists might want supremacy, whether consciously or due to being misguided. But the large majority want equality. ​
/r/MensRights01/09/18 06:03 AM
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Of course, we will always have that small minority who tack on anti-womens rights to it. ​ I swear, if we could hire a PR firm and have an Official MRA badge, that would be great.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:31 AM
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No, but it looks real bad.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:29 AM
1

Something Something #stop paul elam
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:29 AM
4

Elam is the Anita Sarkeesian of the MRM. A profiteer, concerned with nothing more than his own wallet.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:28 AM
0

No, we need a movement that is a male equivalent of feminism, to work together with it for equality.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:27 AM
1

I prefer masculism. Cleaner
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:26 AM
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Pretty great. Shame it is on the other side of the world from me, or I would visit.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 05:22 AM
2

I live in New Zealand. It aint that bad at all. And my point still stands that circumcision is wrong.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 06:51 PM
2

It's very surprising to see you say that. About as surprising as any other men's issues advocate saying it. How is that explained away as actually being about misogyny and patriarchy and toxic masculinity? I dunno. Never seen anyone try. Mostly just "nuh-uh" and "YOU ARE A RAPIST PIG" ​
/r/MensRights30/08/18 07:30 AM
0

Although that is true (somewhat) it is still not a justification of MGM.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 12:01 AM
0

Well, no, I get my news from the mainstream news sources of my nation. NZHerald, Stuff, Western Leader, RadioNZ, Etc. Also The Project once in a while (when I need a laugh) ​ Problem is, the media is really really biased against male victims,
/r/MensRights29/08/18 11:50 PM
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I did not start this fight, it was brought to me. I are under seige by your friends. And I am trying to end the fight through education. You aide the enemy. I also aide you, That makes you the enemy as well. Nah, I am more like Switzerland. How can you be friends with those who would empower themselves at my expense? I am not. How long before they turn on you to consume what is left after you have given them your best? Most likely never. Foolish is the man who does not recognize his enemy even a…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 11:36 PM
0

man accuse woman
/r/MensRights29/08/18 11:25 PM
1

Please. I have not seen one in the news ever (save maybe once while googling)
/r/MensRights29/08/18 10:29 PM
1

They are only your enemy by choice. I am a friend of those who are potentially your friends. I am both your friend and their friend.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 10:22 PM
1

If you want to call me a feminist, it will be somewhat true. ​ I do not really care about labels. They do nothing but give people the ability to strawman me. ​ Call me pro-feminist.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:56 PM
1

Yes, and there is a new female rape victim every week, but zero for men. ​ By your logic, that means that nobody rapes men.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:55 PM
1

Clearly? what evidence do you have?
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:49 PM
1

Again, it is not a fight. ​ It is a war, but not one of fighting. It is a war of knowledge, to change the minds of those who think we are the enemy.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:45 PM
1

Again, it is not false.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:36 PM
1

Honey, I am fairly sure I saw that study. What reason would I have to lie?
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:20 PM
1

Honey I am fairly sure I know my own brain better than you.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:10 PM
1

I remember reading that the 2% number quoted by false accusation deniers comes from Male Accusing Woman.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:02 PM
1

Perhaps not. Not nessecarily "won't", but "can't". ​ I mean seriously, you search up "man falsely accuses woman of rape" and all of the hits are WAM
/r/MensRights29/08/18 08:54 PM
1

So you are saying that antiMRAs/MOERFs/MIERFs are terrorists? not by dictionary definition. Most feminists are anti-MRA because they see the MRM as misogynist, anti-feminist, and bigoted. It is an image problem, and it is why most feminists support men's rights in more feminist-friendly circles (IE menslib) Most feminists do not oppose men's rights in theory, but they do in practice.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 08:53 PM
1

Kinda hard to find them, what with all the information of WAM. I will see if I can find the study,
/r/MensRights29/08/18 08:50 PM
1

Male victims do lie. Not as often as women (mostly because male victims are second class rape victims) but AFAIK 2% of rape accusations MaW are false.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 05:05 AM
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Yup, but at least you will not get banned for saying it.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 05:00 AM
0

Correct, there have been feminist terrorists. Not for a few years though.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 01:44 AM
1

So if he signs it and says that he does not want out, then how does that work?
/r/MensRights29/08/18 12:08 AM
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Feminist is a word used to describe only a select few feminists on this subreddit. ​ Seriously. the behaviours assigned to feminists here are only really applicable to a few.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 10:45 PM
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Men's Oppression Exclusionary Radical Feminists Men's Issues Exclusionary Radical Feminists. Traditionalist Conservative (status quo/gender role apologist)
/r/MensRights28/08/18 10:36 PM
1

Bingo. Signed contract.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 10:34 PM
3

it was a Madden esport game, and yes it happened
/r/MensRights28/08/18 09:06 PM
3

MOERFs, MIERFs, some tradcons, etc
/r/MensRights28/08/18 08:38 PM
1

Alright then. Here is the problem with opt in: |What if the woman claims that he opted in?
/r/MensRights28/08/18 07:04 PM
1

Legal paper.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 06:56 PM
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note the word remain. As in, pregnant by default. As in, the definition of opt out. i never said oppressed, and I am not a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 07:09 AM
2

And that is actually kinda sexist...
/r/MensRights28/08/18 01:47 AM
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No, it is opt out by definition. If you do nothing, you are pregnant.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 01:43 AM
1

Hmm
/r/MensRights28/08/18 01:43 AM
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I am glad I could help hone everybody's arguments. It is most of what I do these days, but hey, if it helps the movement.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 12:44 AM
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But abortion is an opt-out thing. ​
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:21 PM
1

Okay, that is a good point. How about this: Opt out until birth, opt in after birth. ​ Only applies in countries that allow abortion.
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:20 PM
1

I think you mean you are a (((realist)))
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:16 PM
1

It is fascinating. Ah well, hail satan!
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:16 PM
1

WOERM? FERM? (womens oppression exclusionary radical masculist / female exclusionary radical masculist)
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:15 PM
1

And you still have not provided a single reason for opt-in fatherhood. ​
/r/MensRights27/08/18 02:43 AM
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It really should be opt-out. What about kids who's mother never told their father?
/r/MensRights27/08/18 02:41 AM
-1

Unwilling to do what? What if the woman is pro-life, and the pregnancy is accidental?
/r/MensRights27/08/18 02:10 AM
0

What about pro-life women?
/r/MensRights27/08/18 02:09 AM
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I dunno, I feel like that could leave a lot of fatherless kids.
/r/MensRights26/08/18 11:57 PM
1

Either way, it devolves into he said-she said.
/r/MensRights26/08/18 06:55 PM
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Mhm. Still insults. Still bad. I really do not care whether you got shrimp on the barbie or Fush and Chups, the MRM needs to tread lightly
/r/MensRights26/08/18 11:12 AM
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Your crude choice of language reflects badly on the movement. Commenters here are 2 steps away from becoming Youtube MuhRightsActivists.
/r/MensRights26/08/18 11:04 AM
-1

While I agree that associating the MRM with people well known to be far right is a poor idea, I think that you should watch your tongue.
/r/MensRights26/08/18 11:00 AM
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How can you prove that you have not been told tho?
/r/MensRights26/08/18 10:58 AM
-1

Says the supporter of FGM
/r/MensRights26/08/18 10:56 AM
-2

The MGTOW infection is strong in this post. Believe it or not, MGTOW, the statistical majority of marriages do not go like this. Let people make their own decisions
/r/MensRights26/08/18 10:50 AM
-1

yet again, they do not. And since your main point lies on fallacious reasoning, why should I answer it?
/r/MensRights25/08/18 06:05 AM
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I do not, and you are saying that facetiously
/r/MensRights25/08/18 03:17 AM
-1

Again, the vast majority of people using the term do not use it that way, and it does not mean that in practice either. How many times must I repeat that?
/r/MensRights25/08/18 03:16 AM
-1

again, toxic masculinity does not mean "anything bad a man does." How many times must I tell you this
/r/MensRights24/08/18 11:32 PM
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I guess
/r/MensRights24/08/18 11:31 PM
-1

And you sound like a child who never read a dictionary in their life
/r/MensRights24/08/18 11:30 PM
1

They really are though
/r/MensRights24/08/18 10:11 PM
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Except what runs deeper is your lack of knowledge of what words mean.
/r/MensRights24/08/18 10:10 PM
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No, it obviously is not. Words have meanings, and the wrong word was used here. I have said many times that TF exists and is a problem, but Toxic Femininity does not mean "anything bad a woman does"
/r/MensRights24/08/18 10:10 PM
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can you please use words with the right meanings? honestly, calling this toxic femininity is like calling patriarchy rape culturr
/r/MensRights24/08/18 10:35 AM
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oh, you said feminazi. I will definitely take you seriously now
/r/MensRights23/08/18 07:36 PM
1

what on earth is that fact-empty pile.of drivel
/r/MensRights23/08/18 08:26 AM
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AVFM is hardly a good example of a MRA website, and ROK is not MRA. Actually, I think you might be talking about misogyny: the sites. A “subreddit” of the user-generated news site Reddit, this forum describes itself as a “place for people who feel that men are currently being disadvantaged by society.” While it presents itself as a home for men seeking equality, it is notable for the anger it shows toward any program designed to help women. It also trafficks in various conspiracy theories. “Kloo…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 11:02 PM
1

Tell that to the feminists who call CHS an anti-feminist and rape apologist. They can call her what they want. I have been called anti-MRA several times... Virtually no feminists can even identify the most blatant misandry, and good luck trying to get any of them to object to it. god knows I've tried. If you say so. The SPLC still labels the MRM a hate movement. I am surprised you have never watched Cassie Jayes Red Pill Movie. In it, she calls the SPLC, who put her in touch with a senior member…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 10:39 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:51 PM
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"they" To be a feminist, you must identify with the label. That is it. If you advocate for womens rights, and identify with the label, you are a feminist. Some feminists add to that. Not all feminists do any of the things you have mentioned. Who is trying to make the MRM a hate group? Even the SPLC acknowledges we are not.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:47 PM
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Technically, would this not be an egalitarian? Eh, labels are labels. Some people prefer to split themselves between specialist movements. Feminism is powerful. But if one throws their support to the feminist movement by calling themselves a feminist, how could that not negate any claim to being an MRA. Because... Feminism just means that you support women's rights?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:34 PM
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Almost, but the power of rabid lunatics is incredibly overpowering. Are you on r/FeMRADebates? I think you would like it.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:32 PM
1

I just might
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:30 PM
-2

That is nice dear.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:30 PM
1

Yeah, I guess. Maybe the MR wiki (which now links directly to r/rbomi instead of a local copy.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:26 PM
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As I understand it, they don't identify as feminists because feminists say that men can't be feminists and they don't want to piss them off. :-/ Only a few feminists believe that men can be only allies. I have never met one before. I can't make any sense of those words arranged that way. The cognitive dissonance must be deafening. They are in fact feminists and MRAs, although they are rather lacking in the MRA department. ​
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:23 PM
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Oh yes. I am also the sole manager of the r/mensrights wiki... As I have said before, I am involved in several MRA projects. Also, menarehuman.com. And a MRA youtube channel.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:17 PM
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In terms of talking about Toxic Masculinity, it is doing far better. Still a dumpster fire tho TBH. Toxic masculinity really does need a better definition.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:02 PM
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Sorry, really on edge ATM, arguing with idiots too much ATM to think straight
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:01 PM
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You are right... But tell me, who is the sole editor for RBOMI? Tell me that? ​ I still think VAWA is valid (to an extent, definitely needs to be redone tho) Duluth has a disclaimer that says it is gender neutral, but it has sub-text.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:57 PM
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You keep searching too,.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:55 PM
-1

Gosh Dangit. Pro-feminist means you support feminism but you do not personally identify as feminist as such. Would you rather I call them feminist MRAs? Because some are.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:54 PM
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Thread rating: Clusterfuck 96% I mean holy cheeseballs everyone! We have some pro-feminist and feminists-neutral MRAs coming out of the woodwork, and it is great to see. And we have the most rabid of anti-feminist MRAs popping up too! ​ Oh, this is why I am still subbed to this dumpsterfire of a subreddit.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:50 PM
-1

I believe it is a pro-feminist MRA sub.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:46 PM
-2

Patriarchy theory has some validity. Not much, but some.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:45 PM
-1

Heck, there are other MRA groups other than this. r/masculism r/MRA r/menslib r/OneY
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:43 PM
1

OK then, what is toxic masculinity?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:39 PM
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Hello fellow not all feminists are shit believer. Nice to see you are not being downvoted.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:39 PM
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Says the person on what would be accurately described as feminism but for men.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:37 PM
1

Or Maybe Feminist MRA? (simplifying both terms to their gender focus)
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:37 PM
1

There was that guy who self-immolated in NZ
/r/MensRights22/08/18 06:31 AM
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Those who died were literal terrorists.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 06:05 AM
2

Pay for what you spend, easy as that.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 06:05 AM
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Let it be noted that you could not find one example.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 04:58 AM
1

Unhealthy male gender roles?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 04:57 AM
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not nessecarily war journalists though, which are most likely more men. that stat includes those part time NYT writers.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 04:41 AM
1

Okay then, what would you prefer toxic masculinity be called?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 03:01 AM
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When have I ever let you down? Every time you say that, I prove you wrong. Now, do you remember why r/feminisms was created? There is an interesting story behind it...
/r/MensRights22/08/18 03:00 AM
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I stick to what I say
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:59 AM
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It'll also be noted that I never said I tried and failed. I do not have time to go looking for a good one.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:25 AM
0

As did you.
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:23 AM
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You do know that I am pro Men's Reproductive Rights, right? If Jews were set to the same toxic and harmful class expectations that men have, then I would think that it would be socially acceptable to talk about the issue referred to as toxic masculinity. It seems that your quarrel is with the name. Would you recognise the concept if it had a different name?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:21 AM
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Believe me, I have been on MenKamf quite a lot. It is great for analogies of hatred, isn't it. Problem is, Toxic Masculinity is not an issue of hate. If I replaced the word Man/Men with Jew/Jews, into the sentence "Men's Reproductive rights", (Jew's Reproductive Rights") does it make much sense? Are Jews being systematically denied reproductive rights?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 01:53 AM
1

Are you kidding? ​
/r/MensRights21/08/18 11:13 PM
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You deepthroated the blue pill it seems.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 11:12 PM
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Sure, when I have time. Now, do you remember why r/feminisms was created? There is an interesting story behind it...
/r/MensRights21/08/18 11:12 PM
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​ It is incredible to me how people compare race to gender. It makes abosolutely no sensrk ​ ​
/r/MensRights21/08/18 11:11 PM
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Meh, r/AskFeminists has a certain brand of feminism that is very similar to the modern r/Feminism... Now, do you remember why r/feminisms was created? There is an interesting story behind it...
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:32 PM
1

Probably would. However, you're not being consistent with this example. "real men do not cry" does not fall under your favored definition of masculinity. Remember, that "original" definition of masculinity you like was affirming of traditional male gender roles! Was it now? Good to know... Secondly stoicism is largely not toxic to men, and is important to all kinds of social and financial success. This is a particularly functional gender role, although feminism would have you believe otherwise. …
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:29 PM
1

If you look at history (and reality) you would see that it was the Men's Movement that concieved of the term, and feminism has merely adopted it. How it was defined as is what it means. If Jews had invented the word Aryan, your idea would be more accurate. And if the word Aryan had a specific meaning, and some Nazis used it wrong, but the majority actually use it right. ​ Words have meanings.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:24 PM
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No, not really.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:02 PM
1

I never claimed that no feminist would incorrectly use the term. You found one example of somebody using a word in an incorrect way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc I did not say no true feminism, I said that that particular individual was incorrectly using the word. I never said that only I understand it. And I will continue to treat what you say as what it is : a hostile and malicious assault.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:02 PM
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Okay then, that definition is wrong. I use the original definition, the MMM definition, the true definition. ​ Toxic masculinity is this: Societal expectations placed on men, that are harmful to men. That is what most people use.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 09:26 PM
1

same thing actually. Feminists adopted it from the MMM, and it is shameful that the r/MensRights community has been ignoring it. ​ When r/MensLib is doing men's issues better than r/MensRights, there is reason to be concerned.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 09:22 PM
1

I generally prefer the actual meaning of the word to how a few people use it...
/r/MensRights21/08/18 09:13 PM
1

Since when? Considering my prime example was unrealistic beauty standards (which are caused by society, reinforced by other women, and internalised by the woman, IE women are the victims of society and other women....) ​ Internalised misogyny is also a problem, as is internalised misandry, but we are talking about toxic gender expectations, not internalised sexism, that is irrelevant to the current discussion. ​ Toxic gender roles necessarily harm the gender those expectations are harmed on. Tox…
/r/MensRights21/08/18 09:13 PM
1

Considering I have not been told I am wrong by feminists (you know, the people who create and use the terminology) but by those who oppose feminism (those who are against the beliefs of the creators of the terminology) You are merely one side of a massive push to extremism in gender equality politics.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 08:36 PM
1

I do though, I very much do.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 08:34 PM
1

But what is the point in making a point if the person does not get the point of the point? (not pointing fingers, but I have a point). ​ Okay then. "real men do not cry" is an example of what is commonly referred to as toxic masculinity. It is toxic to men, and it is part of the societal excpectation of masculinity. Hence toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 08:34 PM
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I try to make a valid argument, but you dismiss it nonsensically. Why should I bother?
/r/MensRights21/08/18 05:42 AM
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It is not invented by feminists, it was concieved by the Men's Rights Movement. Some feminists do. Toxic Masculinity is not talking about all masculinity. And you just made an idiotic generalisation of feminism
/r/MensRights21/08/18 05:19 AM
-1

It is the introduction to a point. I am not a troll. I will roll on.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 05:02 AM
0

Sure, the name of toxic masculinity is a poor choice, but the concept behind it is sound.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 05:01 AM
1

What does denying a mens issue achieve?
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:46 AM
0

And what did it achieve?
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:42 AM
1

Holy cheeseballs, what is that.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:36 AM
-1

I correct people who are wrong. That does not make me a feminist, Toxic Masculinity is an important MRA concept. As an advocate for mens rights, it is my business to know about it.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:30 AM
-1

I really do though.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:29 AM
1

No, the people of this sub do not know what it means.
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:28 AM
1

Except, you know, I do,,,
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:28 AM
-1

Okay, you proved that one person is crazy. Good job. Ever heard of "real men dont cry"?
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:28 AM
-2

Again, you demonstrate your basic lack of understanding of Toxic Masculinity. Surprise Surprise. You do know that fatherlessness is believed to be the number one cause of toxic masculinity, right? I doubt you do.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:19 PM
-1

It really does not though. Every time we talk about this, you fail to give any solid evidence to prove that it has a different definition.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:12 PM
0

Which one? Duluth? cool.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:11 PM
1

Thats nice.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:10 PM
-1

Eh, feminists have a history of edging into the mens issues lane.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:05 PM
-1

I just did, and it turns out to be a misleading title, none of the behaviours discussed fall under the label of toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 09:05 PM
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Toxic Femininity is a women's issue, and this sub is about men's issues.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 08:55 PM
0

Oh please, you know I am not being serious. It is hard to be serious around people like you.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 08:53 PM
0

So you say...
/r/MensRights20/08/18 08:53 PM
-13

wrong sub
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:23 PM
-1

toxic masculinity does not mean men as a group are toxic, ffs.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:22 PM
-1

It is the idiots who need to read the definition again.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:21 PM
-5

except your first two paragraphs are factually wrong...
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:20 PM
0

"you lot". You love tarring me with that brush, no?
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:17 AM
0

Except, you know, there is a difference between supremacy and being wrong.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:17 AM
-1

thats nice, you alt-right incel neckbeard.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:16 AM
1

hate to say, that aint right partner
/r/MensRights20/08/18 04:42 AM
1

holy fucking cheeseballs with a slice of toast, these "professionals" have no idea what they are talking about.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 04:38 AM
1

Some people deliberately misinterpret terms to fit their own biases. I do not know that persons personal situation,
/r/MensRights20/08/18 02:40 AM
1

The only reason someone of the opposite gender to the movement's focus should support it is because they care about that gender.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 02:39 AM
1

Stop, you are embarrassing yourself.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 02:27 AM
0

Do they?
/r/MensRights20/08/18 02:22 AM
0

feminism=women fallacy.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:14 PM
0

Oh, It is a he. okay, fair enough. Self flagellating much? And i never said that kind of feminism does not count. I simply point out the idiocy
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:14 PM
0

there are 50 shades of gray.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:12 PM
1

Why should women support the MRM?
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:12 PM
0

Yes?... For female beauty standard anyway
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:11 PM
1

Well, actually, you missed the -because she is a woman part. One, I did not do it on any ASSUMPTION. I did it because they demonstrated a basic lack of understanding of the subject. Two, you are literally defending a feminist.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 10:13 PM
0

One, I am a man. Two, I am heavily pro mens rights Three, I cannot prevent you from discussing mens issues. The problem here is, a lot of people are framing people talking about a mens issue as harmful to men. They are actively attacking all discussions of that mens issue.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 10:11 PM
1

ty
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:24 PM
1

Jordan B Peterson
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:23 PM
0

No, you are allowed to discuss it. Problem is, half the people in this sub have no clue what they are talking about.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:22 PM
1

Yes, there is overlap.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:22 PM
0

What on earth is this steaming crock of shit you have brought before me>
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:21 PM
1

It really is not a black/white issue though.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:20 PM
1

Passively
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:20 PM
1

In that situation, yes.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:19 PM
0

So it is a feminist from the widely-reviled EverydayFeminism who has no idea what toxic masculinity is. she is an idiot.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:19 PM
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Except, you know, beauty standards are self perpetrated and societally perpetrated? I swear, you are lying through your teeth to make it seem like feminism is doing things it is not actually doing...
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:18 PM
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Really? REALLY? You know damn well that that is not mansplaining, and you go and spout nonsense as a derailing tactic.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:16 PM
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Social Marxism? Oh please, you know that you are clueless on such a basic mens issue and you are covering up for it by calling it "social marxism," , which btw sounds right out of a JBP talk.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 08:48 AM
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Yes, femsplaining is not an example of toxic femininity. And no, mansplaining is not an example of toxic masculinity
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:59 AM
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Except you asked for examples of Ford cars, and your comment was an example of a Nissan car. There is a definition of toxic femininity, and your example does not fit that,
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:53 AM
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Except, you know, the cause of toxic masculinity is the masculine gender role. And nobody said anything about demonising masculinity. It is clear that you, like most people here, have no idea what toxic masculinity is.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:52 AM
1

internalised misogyny and toxic femininity are different phenomenon entirely.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:25 AM
0

They both exist.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:24 AM
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That woman clearly does not know what toxic masculinity is.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:24 AM
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But they both exist, and are both problems. We should end toxic masculinity, not ignore it.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:23 AM
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That is not an example of toxic femininity. An example of toxic femininity would be unrealistic beauty standards.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:22 AM
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That is not an example of toxic femininity. An example of toxic femininity would be unrealistic beauty standards.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:22 AM
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Passively harmful, actively neutral.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:22 AM
0

Hurr Durr someone not giving a yes no, must be trolling?1!12!
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:21 AM
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The policy was and is negative to men, AFAIK
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:20 AM
1

Correct.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:17 AM
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I have already answered this question
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:17 AM
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With what I currently know: VAWA is ineffective for male victims, and is severely in need of an update,
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:17 AM
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And to everybody reading this: please note that there was a 24 hour period inbetween where I learned a lot, thanks to a quora post.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:16 AM
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Here is the thing though, I learned something during that period. Do you really think that changing somebodies mind takes more than 24 hours? And of course, let it be noted that you could not find me confessing to being a troll.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:11 AM
1

Which ideology is that?
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:09 AM
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I don't care if you acknowledge it now or not. You've already admitted it. I never admitted it, and your attempts to claim I have are pathetic. In fact, you are the troll. You have told me many times. It must be true, because I say you have said it,
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:08 AM
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"feminist troll". No, I am not a troll. I am simply an individual who does not go to extremes with my viewpoints.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:07 AM
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Okay, you are right I have not been consistent, I have been learning a lot and that has caused me to bounce around a lot. I am not a troll, and there is no evidence that I am. Now I see you aren't genuine in your love for feminism. You're just anti whatever is being discussed. I hardly think that that is fair, coming from somebody who has strawmanned me since the start,
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:06 AM
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I have never confessed as much. I am as much a troll as you are. In fact, go and find the place I confessed I was a troll. Go on.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:04 AM
1

Every one? Every one?
/r/MensRights19/08/18 04:04 AM
1

I have never admitted to that particular malicious lie of yours.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:55 AM
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Some I think is the word you are looking for. And what is the point of a feminist debating when anything he or she says is dismissed instantly?
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:53 AM
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I am not a troll, and I have never admitted that I am. You should jump through hoops for me because at the moment, you are working on flawed logic.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:53 AM
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Good bot,
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:52 AM
1

No U
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:51 AM
1

No, and I fail to see how I am.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:51 AM
-1

More drivel from the Tradcon Troll.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:44 AM
18

Oh yes, the generalisation man. Hate to tell you, but there are plenty of girls who will not use it against you.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:43 AM
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ignore mythof, they are a TradCon Troll.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 01:28 AM
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Welcome to r/mensrights! Just avoid defending feminism at all and you should be OK. may I reccomend r/femradebates for a more open discussion? we need more feminism
/r/MensRights19/08/18 01:27 AM
1

than
/r/MensRights19/08/18 01:24 AM
1

Source?
/r/MensRights19/08/18 01:19 AM
0

Nope, I am right on both counts, and wrong on both.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 12:46 AM
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First of all, stalker alert. Second, I am right on both counts.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 12:46 AM
0

Okay then, you have a valid point. Now, run through the exact same exercise for the MRM.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 12:45 AM
1

Note the comments? Here's a snapshot of part of our conversation yesterday. You want to know why feminists don't come? Because critique the MRM (as a feminist) -> downvotes; critique feminism (as anyone) -> upvotes; say anything about patriarchy, rape culture, etc being bad/wrong without substantiating your claim -> upvotes; make a well thought-out post as a feminist but happen to mention one of those things -> hope you're looking forward to 83 replies; anti-feminist -> join the club; anti-MRM -…
/r/MensRights19/08/18 12:45 AM
0

I never said I supported Duluth
/r/MensRights17/08/18 11:32 PM
1

Yeah. the Duluth is FUBAR. VAWA is not gendered. "Although the title of the Act and the titles of its sections refer to victims of domestic violence as women, the operative text is gender-neutral, providing coverage for male victims as well.[37] Individual organizations have not been successful in using VAWA to provide equal coverage for men.[38] The law has twice been amended in attempts to address this situation. The 2005 reauthorization added a non-exclusivity provision clarifying that the ti…
/r/MensRights17/08/18 11:17 PM
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Yep, fair shit reasoning on their behalf. And to think I thought they had changed
/r/MensRights17/08/18 11:02 PM
0

From the site: Why isn’t the Power and Control Wheel gender neutral? The Power and Control Wheel represents the lived experience of women who live with a man who beats them. It does not attempt to give a broad understanding of all violence in the home or community but instead offers a more precise explanation of the tactics men use to batter women.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:49 PM
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It is kinda hard to fix toxic masculinity, it being socially ingrained and all
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:47 PM
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They literally do not. Read into things, do not take them at face value,
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:46 PM
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All their problems? No, only some. And terrible analogy, race and gender are two different things.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:45 PM
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Why would they remove VAWA and Duluth? (seriously though, if you read closer they are both equal.)
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:43 PM
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"ranting" about a serious issue that hurts men does not help men?
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:42 PM
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Yes, sure. I mean, I probably know about all of them anyways.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:39 PM
1

I really am not, I am certain about helping men. Just because my beliefs on what is harming men is from a wider scope, does not mean I do not care about teh menz.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 09:37 PM
1

Good Bot
/r/MensRights17/08/18 08:20 PM
1

Why not.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 08:19 PM
1

No, I do not. I say that the bad is not representative of the whole. Completely different
/r/MensRights17/08/18 08:18 PM
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Except, you know, that is not all I do. I am involved in 4 MRA projects at the moment.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 07:55 PM
1

I suppose you think women are the primary victims of false rape accusations? Statistically, no. Then toxic masculinity can be dismissed the same way. No, because it is based on gender roles.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 07:54 PM
1

Well, I have been thinking about stepping back and being neither, Lauren Campbell style
/r/MensRights17/08/18 07:53 PM
1

You accuse me of No True Feminism? Bullshit.
/r/MensRights17/08/18 07:53 PM
1

Aye, they R great
/r/MensRights17/08/18 03:00 AM
1

Aye.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 11:45 PM
1

Oh, you meant malicious gossip against men. Oh, that is actually a different thing. That is really just an attribute of being an asshole. Both genders do it to the other.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 11:17 PM
1

You hide it well. Having feminist sympathies is not the same as being a feminist. Second of all, you are right that accusations of toxic femininity sometimes lead to accusations of misogyny. Double standard. Very well. Have a lovely day.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 11:11 PM
1

To be fair, I have been speaking in tongues. Look, I am kind of having an ideological crisis right now, so I leave you with this: Societal expectations, both external and internal, can lead to harm. Have a lovely day.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:59 PM
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In the second sense. If taken in moderation it can be harmful, although, as you can imagine, it does cause problems in the long run if taken to far.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:57 PM
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Malicious gossip? I would say that it is internalised misogyny, but not caused by the patriarchy (which both exists and does not)
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:56 PM
1

First of all, I must remind you again that I am not a feminist. Second of all, you are right that accusations of toxic femininity sometimes lead to accusations of misogyny. You know what? Over our several debates you have given me a lot to think about, and you have pointed out several flaws in my logic. Thank you. I am going to give you the opportunity to make one closing statement which I may respond to, but I fear this conversation has gone on for far to long, and has gone nowhere.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:55 PM
1

Not all stoicism is bad. When misapplied or misunderstood (hyper-stoicism) it is bad. Honestly.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:38 PM
0

Just going to remind everyone to read Father and Child Reunion by Warren Farrell
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:37 PM
1

No, I definitely believe femininity to be toxic. Wow. So you pretty much dismiss anything other than the stuff that makes women the victim of men. No, unrealistic beauty standards (as in perpetuated by self and other women)
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:33 PM
1

Where.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:32 PM
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Thank you, u/imnotmrabut. I i will be placing this into the men's issues datasphere.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 10:31 PM
1

Sounds like we agree on some things.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:53 PM
1

Where did you get muh patriarchy?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:53 PM
1

Some of those are toxic femininity, others are not. TF is more things like unrealistic beauty standards...
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:52 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:50 PM
1

Thank you for coming to terms with the harmful nature of feminism. Just because some feminists believe harmful things, does not mean that feminism is harmful by nature. Thank you for accepting your part in hurting others. I do not hurt others by believing that a problem exists. That is stupid. Thank you for making the commitment to stop causing harm. I made that commitment when I first dunked myself into the world of gender issues. You are setting a beautiful example for what feminists can do to…
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:06 PM
0

I am not deflecting from the conversation. And what does internalised misogyny have to do with men?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:02 PM
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No, false rape accusations harm men. But I fail to see how you got false rape accusations from toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 09:02 PM
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You do not "dismiss" toxic femininity as internalised misogyny. They are both problems. Toxic misandry is, like toxic masculinity, a problem.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 08:33 PM
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Why should I do the impossible? That is like telling me to provide examples of how Foveavirus directly harms men. I can easily explain how it indirectly harms humans, but it is impossible to explain how it directly harms humans.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 08:32 PM
1

OK then. You telling people that "believing in toxic masculinity is harmful, so stop" is harmful. Stop. Now you have to stop doing it.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 08:29 PM
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Toxic Masculinity is disgusting and harmful.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 08:28 PM
1

Not only is OP a bigot, they completely fail to understand what toxic masculinity is
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:48 PM
1

Yes, there are many things.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:34 PM
1

Internalised misogyny is sometimes toxic femininity. the two overlap.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:33 PM
1

Sure.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:32 PM
1

I used to respect CHS, but not anymore. She clearly had no idea what she is talking about. My ideas are innacurate and harmful? Give me a break.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:31 PM
1

How is it disgusting?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:29 PM
3

Except, you know, you skipped the other half of that comment
/r/MensRights16/08/18 04:49 AM
1

No, where?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 02:51 AM
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Toxic Masculinity has to do with stoicism and the such
/r/MensRights16/08/18 02:51 AM
1

What? Of course males need masculinity. What is your point?
/r/MensRights16/08/18 02:19 AM
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Feminism and femininity are not the same thing. You have been talking about femininity this whole time. Do you want to talk about how feminism harms men? We can talk about that. But you actually have to say that. Here, I will start: Some parts of feminism actively hinder Men's Rights Groups
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:55 AM
1

Look. It is impossible to discuss how toxic femininity harms men without discussing how it harms women. Why? because toxic femininity is something that affects women. The negative affects on women cause the negative effects on men. It is like making Toxic Masculinity a women's issue. It does not work. Now, if you can ask a question that can actually be answered the way you want it to be, do so.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:39 AM
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Societal expectations, as in gender roles.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:20 AM
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Correction. What you said is wishful thinking.
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:09 AM
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Did I say actions? I am fairly sure I said societal expectations...
/r/MensRights16/08/18 01:08 AM
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