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You must be extremely bad faith to call me an incel over this post. Nothing I wrote was about hating women or blaming women for everything. My criticism was about how men's issues are framed in public discourse. I never said women are incapable of doing good or that they're all selfish. In fact, my point is the opposite. Women are just people. That's why I disagree with treating women's preferences or expectations as if they're automatically the moral standard for men to follow. My issue isn't w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 12:20 AM
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The end result for men in both cases is still terrible. Because suicide rates for men remain high in both cases. So nothing changes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 05:12 PM
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Exactly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 01:25 PM
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But this idea that men are losers actually sounds mysogynisit to me. Because it's not based on any actual objective reason. It's based on the idea that men should be dominant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 09:55 AM
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This is so funny and ironic. Because many red-pill men will say they became red-pill just by dating women. Not watching Andrew Tate videos. It's even a meme in the manosphere. "Dating women made me red-pill."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 09:41 AM
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Well said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 11:16 PM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 09:38 PM
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Water is wet.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/26 12:07 AM
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Everything is about talking down on the opposite gender with these people.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/26 11:16 PM
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Facts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 01:38 PM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 08:11 AM
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I agree. When I said male homophobia in the title. I meant homophobia targeted at men. Not men being homophobic. I also use Ana Psychology as an example of this in the end too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 08:12 AM
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No it's boy mom's are bad. Because they are too nice to boys and mean to girls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 05:27 PM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 04:45 PM
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"What about meeeeeeee." 😔 😓😓😓
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/26 11:15 PM
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BINGO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 09:20 PM
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Buddy im not going to do anything imao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:16 AM
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Many successful women don't want date men that aren't on their level. Something most people leave out when having this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:19 AM
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Your response assumes that my argument depends on false accusations being common. It doesn't. My argument is about incentives and perception, not frequency. People adjust their behavior based on the possibility of negative outcomes, not just the probability. We wear seatbelts without expecting to crash. We lock our doors without expecting a burglary. Risk management is a normal part of life. You also dismiss concerns about reputation by focusing almost entirely on criminal convictions. Those are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:10 AM
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You're missing the point of my argument. I'm not saying approaching a woman is identical to walking behind a lone woman at night. I'm pointing out that both situations are built on the same underlying principle, which is that men are expected to constantly evaluate how their presence might be perceived. You say context matters, and I agree. But context doesn't eliminate the broader message that men are responsible for managing women's comfort in public. If men are expected to think several steps…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:40 AM
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You're proving my point without realizing it. The behavior is almost identical, yet you're deciding whether the man is virtuous or pathetic based entirely on the motive you assign to him. The problem is that you cannot actually know his motive. A man who avoids approaching women could be doing it because he wants to respect women's boundaries, because he doesn't want to be perceived as creepy, or because he wants to avoid an embarrassing or hostile interaction. Those reasons are not mutually exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:05 AM
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The problem with your response is that it treats each point in isolation while ignoring the broader contradiction in modern dating discourse. My argument is not that every feminist says the exact same thing. My argument is that these messages are common enough in public discourse to influence how many men behave. On your first point, plenty of men have been called insecure, paranoid, or creepy for expressing concern about how women might perceive them. The idea that "if you're worried about look…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:03 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/31/mike-pence-doesnt-eat-alone-women-speaks-volumes https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/20/catcall-culture-feminism-jessica-valenti A very popular feminist a with huge audience criticizing the Mike Pence rule. While also having article about missing cat calling lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:56 PM
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Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 12:22 AM
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Bad faith
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 08:02 PM
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So depressing man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:51 PM
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Nobody is doing that. I never blame shit on women in this post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 01:31 PM
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The usuaul suspects.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/26 08:39 PM
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This isn't misogynistic at all.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/26 12:37 PM
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Ironically misandrist women like this don't see gay or bi men as "real-men".
/r/EverydayMisandry24/06/26 01:39 PM
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Men will never turn down sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 06:04 PM
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Women uphold this system when it's convenient. This isn’t my takeaway from the movie. This is my takeaway of from the foolish discourse around the movie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 06:03 PM
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This type of stuff is super important. So thank you.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/06/26 01:41 PM
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That's most Reddit subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 01:26 PM
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mIsAnDrY iS jUsT hUrT fEeLiNgS.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/06/26 09:35 AM
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The ironic thing is that misogynistic men are still successful with women.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/06/26 12:17 AM
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Losers who still get better results from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:48 PM
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Ironically incel behavior.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/06/26 06:51 PM
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I will say this again. «Just like everyone else. Women can get their hypocrisy exposed.» «It's like complaining that conspiracy theories only care about Palestine so they can attack Jewish people. In reality, there is nuance. You can criticize Zionism without being anti-Semitic.» «In this case, you can call out homophobia and toxic masculinity in women without being misogynistic.» You're acting as if criticizing one group's behavior automatically means someone supports worse behavior from anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:47 AM
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Because men being homophobic is already seen as the default. While women are assumed to be perfect angles who can't be homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:40 AM
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This is literally the first paragraph in the post. Note im not saying women should date bi men. I'm not a bi man, so I have no dog in this fight. I'm just trying to explain the true reason why women won't date bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:19 AM
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Just like everyone one else. Women can get their hypocrisy exposed. It's complaining about conspiracy theories only caring about Palestine, so they can attack Jewish people. When in reality, there is actually nuance. You can talk about Zionism, without being anti Semitic. In this case you can call out homophobia and toxic masculinity in women without being misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:17 AM
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This doesn't make sense. Because women don't know who is bi or not bi. So it's something 100 percent social.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:33 PM

Yall?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:01 PM
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Because as a man I can still relate to getting my sexuality or masculinity questioned by women. I can still relate to women using gay as an insult on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:42 PM
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OP is me. And I'm not bi. I said this in the beginning of the post lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:41 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:28 PM
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It's probably because gay men are more likely to date bi men, than straight women or even bi women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:54 PM
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I hope you feel the same way when it comes to body count topics about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:53 PM
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Off-topic. But ask this bi woman if she would be ok with her boyfriend also being bi too. She seems like the type of woman who wouldn't like that.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/06/26 01:45 AM

The difference is that I don't claim to speak for all men in these first place. A lot of women do act like their advice universally apply to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:48 PM

Spread tge gospel to other women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:03 PM

Then people or women should stop giving universal advice as demographic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:27 PM

Using my actual experience would have people like you saying it's a antedote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:26 PM
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Yep, she seem nice at first. But then I find out she definitely has a lot of misandry to unpack. She once said that people shouldn't be talking about the Jeffrey Epstein files being a class issue. And instead she said people should talk about the JE files being a issue with men. She even said that tge average man would be a pedo in thar video. It's always sad when you find a feminist woman channel that seems good. Until the feminist woman misandry starts to show.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 05:42 PM
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I guessed some us are so desperate to the smallest signs of empathy from women or feminists. It's sad, but I don't blame them though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 05:32 PM
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Definitely yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 01:32 PM
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But they still expect their oppressors to be their protectors though. That's the best rebuttal to this argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 10:02 AM
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The only "good places" that talk about men issues is Menlib. These types love the male spaces where positive masculinity" is just being repackaged as tradicional masculinity with a feminist gaze.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 10:00 AM
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Moron.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 09:59 AM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 09:58 AM
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The bare minimum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 09:26 AM
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No the femcels and rad feminists are making up dumb narratives based on a good movie. Hope this helps. :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 12:53 PM
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Thr funny thing women also tell men to smile more.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/06/26 11:12 AM
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Heck even Conservatives associate anger with toxic masculinity too. Male anger is interpreted as aggression or "toxic masculinity." Male sadness is interpreted as weakness. Male loneliness is interpreted as entitlement. Male frustration is interpreted as complaining. Men today face a societal catch-22 regarding emotions. They are criticized for showing any emotion outside of happiness or contentment at the expense of others—anger is labeled “toxic masculinity,” sadness is “weakness,” frustration…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 09:52 PM
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Exactly lol. But apparently people still think this alternative is bad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:02 PM
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I didn't hate women here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:01 PM
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Not talking to you is not bigotry. Men do the same thing to other men all the time. So this will be the first time women are actually being treated as equals in this department .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:19 AM
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Other men only want to interact due to pressure from gender roles, that expects men to pursue women or approach women. That is still an issue. Again women aren't expected to coddle men's feelings or even interact with them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:17 AM
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Such a silly response. No, the alternative is for men to not interact with women. Women can't feel unsafe when men don't talk to them lol. You're creating a false dilemma where the only two options are "men must make women feel safe" or "men are making women feel unsafe." There is a third option: men simply mind their own business and don't take responsibility for strangers' emotions. I also find it interesting that you changed my argument. I never argued that it's okay to intentionally make wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:15 AM
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It's is entitlement and a double standard. You keep proving my point by immediately jumping to insults instead of addressing the argument. Notice how you called me RP-addled, implied I'm a creep, and questioned my character. The fact that you are calling me a creep without any evidence, is why men should've less interaction with women. Yet somehow I'm supposed to believe this is a rational discussion. I never said women aren't rational for taking precautions. I never said women aren't allowed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:12 AM
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They can do that by not interacting with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:09 AM
2

You expect men to be hold accountable for other men actions. That's a issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:08 AM
1

The bar is so low for women. To the point acknowledging that a man exist is a huge deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:07 AM
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Again men shouldn't interact at all. If women say they can't tell differences between good men and bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:39 AM
1

Do you have the same opinion with race?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:35 AM
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I just show you a video a female therapist with a huge platform saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:11 PM
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Because of hypocrisy. Why do they feel uncomfortable around other men and not me. Seeing how women talk to other men is enough for me to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:10 PM
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Then tell youe fellow women to stop coming up with ways for men to interact with women. I still get notice by women. Despite me not talking to them or staring at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:03 PM
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It's funny how women don't avoid me. Despite me actually going out of my way to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:03 PM
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BS. Women are more likely to be harmed by their boyfriends and husbands. Stop using single men as scapegoats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:41 PM
-1

Most men are still not blaming women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:39 PM
2

Then why are you promoting 4B? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:35 PM
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It's a contradiction because men are constantly told that women are afraid of men, can't tell good men from bad men, and therefore need to be cautious around all unfamiliar men. Fair enough. Nobody is entitled to a stranger's trust. But then when some men respond by minimizing interactions, avoiding approaches, and keeping to themselves, people suddenly start explaining how men should interact with women instead. At that point, you're no longer just talking about women's boundaries. You're talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:32 PM
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Women aren't even expected to acknowledge that men even exist. So why can't men do the same thing? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:28 PM
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There are literally studies about women thinking benevolent sexism is pro women. While ironically thinking equality is misogyny. I don't trust you here, because you are probably a part of the problem. You probably treat women like a benevolent sexist. 🔵 Research on Ambivalent Sexism found that many people view "benevolent sexism" as positive because it sounds protective and chivalrous, even though it still reinforces traditional gender roles. So your personal anecdote about women never calling y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:27 PM
1

Staying alone just like you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:22 PM
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You're missing the point. Nobody is getting defensive over personal space, consent, or basic politeness. Most people already agree with those things. The disagreement starts when basic courtesy gets quietly expanded into men having a responsibility to manage how strangers feel about them. The moment the conversation becomes "men need to make women feel safe," that's no longer just about consent or manners. Women are constantly told they can't tell good men from bad men, that any man could be a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:22 PM
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Then why are women still usually coming up with examples about how men should interact with them though? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:19 PM
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Great, so I assume this isn't going to be an tomorrow. RIGHT?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:17 PM
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Bro you don't need skill. All you need is to just not be creepy, according to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:17 PM
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Yeah men can accomplish the same thing by just not interacting with women at all lol. You can't be afraid of someone who doesn't talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:16 PM
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When men treat women like normal humans. They are usually called misogynistic. Because a lot of women can't the tell differences between equality and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:13 PM
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I never argue against this. My point if women are afraid of men. Then they should be ok with men not interacting with them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:11 PM
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I can sense the passive-aggressive nature in your comment here. If you weren't trying to take a jab at me, you would have simply said, "That's your choice." Instead, "If you want to stay alone nobody is stopping you" sounds like you're trying to frame being alone as some kind of insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:10 PM
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1: This is already the default most people agree with lol. And 2. 2: Men never blame the male loneliness epidemic on women. And 3 3: The male loneliness epidemic is something feminists made up anyway, to the point it was use ti demonize any man who is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:06 PM
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Buddy men on average aren't doing anything to make women unsafe. Most men don't even approach women anymore. Maybe the person who can make women safe is the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:05 PM
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In my experience women usually hate it. They find it odd when I don't give up my seat on a bus, or tell them good morning lol. As as social expectations still exsit for men. I will never stop talking about this issue. If you want me to stop. Then be a part of the change. Challenge women like the woman in thid video that says stuff like this. I'm not the one saying this. Women are the ones coming up with ways men should interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:03 PM
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Men can already do that by just not interacting with women all. Women also K babies at risk. But yet women are still not expected to run acorss the street to make a crying baby calm down though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:00 PM
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They think evil men forced Maxwell to be bad.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 01:08 PM
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Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 01:19 PM
66

Feminists still love benefiting from the "male gaze" when it's convenient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 10:38 AM
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THANK YOU.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 07:49 AM
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Same feminists always saying how they need men to use their privilege and by allies by protecting women from bad men. So it's just cakism or Schrödinger feminism again guys. They pick and choose when men are useless or useful. In their feminists world view, men are useless and useful at the same time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 07:48 AM
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Due to her intelligence, popularity, abd status. She can cause mlrw harm than the average Twitter misandrist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 07:45 AM
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Nobody is denying that violence against women exists. Nobody is denying that abusive men exist. What I am criticizing is the tendency to take those realities and use them to paint male loneliness itself as suspicious. You immediately jumped from "some men are lonely" to statistics about murder, rape, and domestic violence. That is exactly the problem. A lonely man is not automatically a future rapist. A socially awkward man is not automatically a future murderer. A rejected man is not automatica…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 07:44 AM
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She even said lonely men can feel better by protecting women in dangerous situations in another video.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/26 08:28 AM
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Switch the genders. There will be so much homophobia.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/06/26 12:44 AM
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They view men as superhumans who are immune to violence. While also ironically using the dumb "yEaH bY oThEr mEn" gotcha argument when told the opposite.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 08:16 AM
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"Happy wife, happy life" is literally popular belief in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:31 AM
1

Fights also happen between men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:22 AM
2

Women also expect men to sacrifice themselves for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:20 AM
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It's the woke version of boys will be boys.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/06/26 12:16 AM
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It's already happening. Hence why women are complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:54 PM
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Or maybe men can just not approach women at all, if women stoped being HYPOCRITICAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:44 PM
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And yet this response still proves my point. You spend the first half telling men how serious the consequences can be if they misread a situation. Then you spend the second half telling men they're on their own and need to figure it out through trial and error. That's literally the contradiction I'm talking about. You say context matters. You say there are too many variables. You say there is no one answer. You say experience is the only teacher. Okay, then why are people shocked when some men b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:15 PM
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You're kind of proving my point though. The issue isn't that one random woman might call a guy a creep. The issue is that society spends a lot of time telling men that making women uncomfortable is a serious problem, then acts surprised when some men become overly cautious. You say "just read the room," but people only say that after the fact. If social situations were as obvious as people pretend, there wouldn't be endless arguments about what counts as creepy, confident, respectful, awkward, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:58 PM
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You are the one acting like women are these dumb toddlers who don't know how vocalize what they want lol. It's not basic human respect. Since women aren't the ones expected to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:15 AM
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You get it twisted. Its opposite. Men shouldn't approach women or sexualized women at all. Because they don't know the boundaries of random women. It's up to women to be vocal whenever they want to be approached or sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:06 AM
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Similar to how women can't tell the difference between bad men and good men. So they must be cautious and assume all men are potential threats. Men aren't mind readers who can magically tell the difference between women who want to be sexualized or not sexualized. So they must be cautious and assume all women don't want to be sexualized. Your cosplay example isn't good lol. Because that's literally the logic being applied in both cases. Women are told to be cautious because they can't instantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:14 AM
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Mate women think im gay or odd for nkt sexualizing them, when they usually consider it creepy from other men. That's why I made this post. And you shaming me for not getting a date proves my point. You're literally proving my point. The moment I criticize dating expectations, your response is to shame me for supposedly not getting dates. That's Stage 3 of the cycle. Men get told to stop approaching, stop flirting, stop being forward, and then get mocked when they struggle with dating or choose n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:05 AM
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No, more like: if the rules are supposedly so obvious and universally understood, then people shouldn't have to decode body language, vibes, energy, eye movement, tone, timing, social calibration, and fifty other variables just to figure out what is considered appropriate. Funny how every time someone asks where the line is, the answer immediately becomes "well, it depends." That's kind of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:03 AM
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No im asking women to be consistent. They either want men to approach/sexualized them or not. It can't be both. I don't give a shit if women don't want to be approach. I just want less situations where men are being falsely accused or being creepy and getting reputation ruin in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:52 AM
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It's not rocket science for women to communicate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:49 AM
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You're proving my point without realizing it. "It's the eyes." "It's the energy." "It's the vibe." None of those are objective standards. Those are subjective interpretations. You're acting like they're universal rules when they're really personal judgments. And that's exactly where the blur comes from. women can look at the exact same interaction from different men and come away with completely different conclusions about the man's intentions, confidence, or creepiness. You keep saying "social …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:48 AM
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Do you call women scared for not asking men out too? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:46 AM
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It's not simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:45 AM
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Women encourage the male gaze too. That's part of why I don't think this issue is as simple as "men objectify women and women oppose it." Social media, advertising, entertainment, influencer culture, dating apps, and even ordinary dating behavior often reward attention, attractiveness, and sexual interest. My point isn't that objectification doesn't happen. Obviously it does. My point is that society sends mixed signals about sexuality all the time. Men are told sexual attraction is normal. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:45 AM
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Same reason people don't focus on men as a collective when discussing all the positive things men contribute to society. What I find interesting is that the "men aren't a monolith" argument tends to appear selectively. When discussing innovation, infrastructure, science, medicine, engineering, business, or countless other contributions, the conversation usually shifts to individual responsibility and individual achievement. Nobody says I deserve credit because another man built a bridge. Nobody …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:40 AM
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Except when the woman calls the man a pervert for saying hi. That's the whole point you're missing. You're acting like all these boundaries are clean, obvious, and consistently applied when they're not. "Be sexual but don't be a pervert" sounds reasonable until two men say the exact same thing and one is called confident while the other is called creepy. "Approach women appropriately" sounds reasonable until everyone has a different definition of what appropriate means. "Be assertive but don't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:14 AM
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Im just trying spread more awareness here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:29 PM
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The media, school, parents. Those are the main places where men actually absorb early rules about masculinity, dating, and social behavior before they even have real experience with it. It’s not a single unified message, it’s layers of sometimes conflicting expectations stacked on top of each other. On top of that, a lot of what men are told in dating contexts gets reduced to simple phrases like “be confident” or “take initiative,” but those aren’t actual rules with clear definitions in real tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:56 PM
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That comparison doesn’t really hold up because it treats attraction like ownership or entitlement, which is not what’s actually being argued. “Look don’t touch” works for objects because objects don’t have boundaries, agency, or context. Human interaction isn’t about ownership, it’s about mutual comfort and interpretation in real time. That’s why the standard isn’t “don’t look,” it’s “don’t impose.” The reason the comparison gets brought up is usually to highlight discomfort or unwanted attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:27 PM
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Because does feminists are trying to make rules for society while being inconsistent as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:01 PM
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Let me show you how the lines get blurry. The issue is that “confidence,” “initiative,” and “creepy” are not fixed categories in real social interaction. They sit on a spectrum where the same exact behavior can be interpreted differently depending on perception. Now add attractiveness into that, and the blur becomes more obvious. The same approach from an attractive man can be read as confident, charming, or playful, while the same approach from an unattractive man can be read as awkward, intrus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:58 PM
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Bullshit you wouldn't say this argument when it comes to race or women who don't call out bad behavior from other women. . Really? With the current events happening right now where law enforcement is letting people die, you're gonna say that? US has the highest prison numbers i the world. Abusers and grapists still get beat up in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:55 PM
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1: random men aren't responsible for other men actions. 2: Law enforcement already hold these men accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:38 PM
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The men aren't sex pest are also being attacked for not being sex pest too. How ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:32 PM
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The key issue in my postbis that people like you often act like these labels are just “edge cases,” but from my perspective those edge cases are exactly what end up shaping the overall social message men receive. Even if each claim is valid on its own, they don’t stay isolated in practice. What happens instead is that all of these separate warnings and critiques get bundled together into one general social atmosphere. So “don’t harass,” “don’t be entitled,” “don’t be creepy,” and “be confident,”…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:31 PM
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What are two different groups here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:15 PM
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Yeah that’s point. There shouldn’t be advice at all. Because relationships are vague arbitrary bs at the end of day. That’s kind of the frustration being expressed here. Not that people want dating to become fully mechanical or guaranteed, but that most of the “advice” people get already admits it’s not stable or reliable in the first place. It’s basically heuristic guessing dressed up as guidance. And when advice is just shorthand for “this tends to work sometimes depending on context,” it stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:14 PM
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Fam it's not that hard. Men shouldn't be expected to be mind readers or convince women they like sex. Women should learn to communicate. It's not rocket science. The point I’m making is about where the uncertainty actually hits men in practice. It’s not just “different people like different things,” it’s that the same behavior can be labeled differently depending on how it’s received in the moment and how it’s interpreted after the fact. Especially when it comes to men looks. I’m not denying sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:09 PM
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Women say they hate when men approach them at bars or clubs. Because they are just there to have a good time with friends. Women usually say it's creepy for men to go to social events or join hobbies with the intent of getting a girlfriend LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:02 PM
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I usually get called gay or odd for not engaging in behavior women would usually call creepy if other men did. That's proves my point. And there are no socially acceptable places to approach women. Since women still complain about getting approach in any place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:00 PM
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This is so wrong. Women have those expectations too. If they didn't I wouldn't be making this post at all lol. Women make up 51 percent of the population, they are bound to have influence on men too. The idea that only men are “pushing” approach, dating, and relationship expectations ignores how social signaling actually works. Women absolutely contribute to those expectations through preferences, feedback, rejection patterns, and what gets rewarded socially, even if it isn’t framed as explicit …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:58 PM
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The point I’m making is more about where the uncertainty sits. Nobody is arguing that feelings or preferences should be predetermined. The issue is that the social feedback around behavior often gets treated like it should be learnable in a consistent way, even though it isn’t always communicated that way in practice. Your beggar example actually highlights part of the tension, but not the way you intend. In that situation, there are still social expectations (don’t be cruel, don’t ignore distre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:56 PM
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It’s women complaining about these issues and not being consistent at the same time that creates part of the frustration I’m talking about, not because women are “wrong,” but because the signals being sent don’t always line up cleanly in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:53 PM
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Your welcome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/26 08:49 PM
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Why not? We already have rules for everything else. Why not dating and consent too? It’s only dumb thing in society that requires to go off "vibes". Traffic lights. Traffic lights don’t rely on vibes because the meaning is fixed in advance. Red, yellow, green are predefined commands, and the response is automatic. There is no interpretation of intent or personality behind the signal itself. A password system doesn’t rely on vibes because access is determined purely by match or mismatch. The syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:45 PM
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The point of the “Cycle of Shit” idea is not that people are literally telling men to ignore a “no” and keep pushing. That’s a bit of a strawman version of it. The actual frustration being described is more about how the same underlying behavior gets judged completely differently depending on outcome and perception. On persistence, I agree there’s a clear line where it becomes inappropriate. If someone says no or shows clear disinterest, continuing is not okay. The disagreement isn’t about that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:33 PM
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Or can just stop being vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:27 PM
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Who are the right people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:25 PM
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Most lonely men already do this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/26 06:25 PM
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I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 10:22 PM
1

I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 10:21 PM
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It is sad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 09:18 PM
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Pissed me off.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/06/26 01:35 PM
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Just look at the reactions a lot of women have when they find out a traditionally masculine attractive man is bisexual. https://youtube.com/watch?v=_t659lgKsLo&si=5YFxlnwnCP4uvVMj They even feel entitled to thinking that all the men that are masculine, rich, muscular, tall, and popular should be 100 percent straight. And also think openly gay men should be stuck with all the men that are feminine, broke, fat, autistic, and porn addicts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:57 PM
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There are even idiots who literally think men are responsible for 99 or 100 percent of the crimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 01:38 PM
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Not suprised at all. Only feminists would find this suprising at best, or downplay at worst. And the latter usually happens the most.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 01:37 PM
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Same here too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/26 02:59 PM
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Shit some women still expect to be treated like a girlfriend from their regular male friends.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/05/26 08:53 PM
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Exactly lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/26 05:37 PM
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Proving how narcissistic they are by believing in "leagues".
/r/EverydayMisandry30/05/26 01:27 PM
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Women definitely have fear when it comes to bi men though.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/26 12:03 PM
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Heteronormativity definitely harms straight men with rigid gender roles though. But OP this is still a great argument though. Im glad im not the only one that uses thid argument. Maybe in the future Feminists can just misogyny instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 11:58 AM
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Male gamers or anime fans were literally considered losers or failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:41 AM
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True, it's mostly homophobia than misogyny or misandry. People tend to downplay homophobia a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:04 AM
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Wouldn't say harsher. Just equally harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:39 PM
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And if you're thinking of disagreeing about this, watch the way women react when an attractive guy snuggles a pet, feeds a small animal, gives a small child he's coaching or related to a pep talk, or changes his niece or nephew's diaper. They go positively feral for him sometimes. All that is still considered "positive masculinity". And "positive masculinity" is just traditional masculinity with a feminist gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:27 PM
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It's funny how the biggest "alpha males" in the world prefer to have other people do their fighting for them. Putin isn't doing nothing. Same as Trump. Note I'm not bashing men here, I'm not a Menlib. You from my post history on here. 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 07:56 PM
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It's the women most affected meme.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 07:14 PM
1

Yes one was even older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:16 PM
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It was mutiple girls at house next my house. With no adults around. I was fucking kid at the time. And they had belts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:57 PM
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You didn't read my post at all. I was talking about the discourse around the movie. The movie itself is not the problem. The online reaction is the bigger issue. Social media turned the film into another excuse to collectively dunk on lonely men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:52 PM
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You are probably the type to ironically say believe all women. I know your world, women are too wonderful to ever do something like. I would've to be some type psychopath to make up a story like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:09 PM
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Because society puts women on a pedestal in a weird way. Femininity is treated like something delicate, protected, and socially valuable when it comes from women. So when men act feminine, people react like men are lowering themselves or disrespecting the status tied to womanhood. That is why society usually celebrates tomboys more than feminine men. Masculinity is treated as something admirable to move toward, while femininity in men is treated like a downgrade. The backlash is not just about “…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:55 PM
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But women still benefit from a feminism that help breaks down their social barriers though. Men don't have a feminist-like movement with a lot of decades. Because society still views men as a oppressed/privilege class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:49 PM
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I was physically harm by women too. I was beat up by a bunch of girls with belts as a kid. But due to the "you can't hit girls back" rule, i couldn't defend myself. This is experience many men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:47 PM
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Same thing here too. Those men are viewed as failing masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:38 PM
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We need to stop with this notion that women can't bully men in society. The majority of my bullies in school were gilrs. Many many share similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:36 PM
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Beacause feminine men are viewed as ruining women image.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:34 PM
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Society often treats women like something fragile to control, not equals to respect. But when it's convenient though, feminists still benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:33 PM
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No it's misandry because they being punished for tainting the image of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:30 PM
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I included both in the title. And also men can get bullied by women too. I got bullied by women a lot in elementary school and middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:28 PM
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Once again thank. Because you are always proof of my arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:27 PM
2

That's a fair argument. But leads to benevolent sexism though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:19 PM
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By that logic women wouldn't also get shamed for looking like men either. Would that be misandry affecting women too? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:18 PM
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By that logic it's misandry that are affecting women, not misogyny. Since compared to a man is considered bad in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:17 PM
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Men are literally seen as dumb or immature for liking sports, and especially comicbooks/anime/games. We need to stop this nonsense, of thinking women is the only gender that faces mockery for their hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:20 AM
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And that's ok. I'm just speaking on social level here. And also I mentioned non-traditional men too. These men aren’t necessarily "feminine looking". It's just that any men who steps outside male gender roles is considered feminine in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:19 AM
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Definitely use it.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/26 10:59 AM
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Yes
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/26 10:46 AM
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Maybe the best rebuttal is that it's no different from how white men are called the n-word in certain contexts too. But then again there are barely any context where white women are called the n-word though. While it's common for women to call men bitches, for living up to their idea of masculinity. There is barely any context whereva black person is calling a white person an n-word lover outside extreme cases.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/26 10:46 AM
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I call this cakism Feminism.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/26 10:41 AM

Great comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:33 PM

Your comment is debunk by the fact that people can have the same facial expression for different reasons. My brother always think im scared in public. When in reality im either chill, or just get more frustrated when my brother keeps mentioning that. That’s the issue with treating body language like a universal translator. People act like crossed arms always mean “defensive” or avoiding eye contact always means “lying” when human behavior is way more context dependent than that. A tired person, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:20 PM

But you are the one who treated women like a hive mind first though. By your logic here, there is no such thing as a warm approach. Since every woman is different. Therefore have different ideas of what a worm approach is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:54 PM

Buddy these are the same women calling men closeted creeps for not wanting to interact with women via their kafka trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:53 PM
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This might be even worse than the Adolescence discourse. Because it seems like people are ironically missing the point of this movie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 06:21 PM

Exactly my point. A man being shitty is sometimes not a red-flag or concern for women. Because they still find these men attractive. It has nothing to do with emotional intelligence. You guys just like associating women's preferences with morality. And think any man who doesn't live up to women's preferences has somw type of moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:19 PM

Two important things to here. 1: : 5"8-'5'9 and especially 5'10 isn't in the too short category. 2: Short men can still be physically attractive, hace status, or also have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:13 PM

Women have repeatedly say they hate getting approached at bars and clubs, and they don't come to get male attention lol. Women also say it's creepy for a man to go to a social outing or hobby with the solo purpose of getting a girlfriend lol Body language is a fucking pseudoscience. Men aren't mind readers, who can magically know you want sex via your "eye contact".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:08 PM

Also women too: Don't try to be friends with a girl, just to get laid. The classic muddying of the waters tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:06 PM

Body language is pseudoscience buddy. It's best that men not approach women at all. Because men aren't mind readers. And before you ot a ppd woman give pushback here. Remember that you guys are the ones saying how scary it is for women to get approached by men. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:04 PM

Despite all the fear. Women as a collective still have an issue when men don't interact with them. So that says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:01 PM

This is why it's important for men to decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:59 PM

It's really common fir women to date shitty men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:52 PM

No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:51 PM

This is silly. Because women still date shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:49 PM

Most men aren't complaining about this, and accept that women don't want men they don't find attractive approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:47 PM
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I fully agree here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 05:44 PM
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Men are still more likely to expressed their feelings to other men, not women. Even if men less likely to show their emotions. The person who more likely to see men emotions is a other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:17 PM
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It crazy how they can make narrative off anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 10:37 AM
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A lot of boys are raised to think female attention is proof of their worth. So they end up chasing validation instead of building identity, discipline, and real self respect. Teaching boys to be cautious around overly sexualized content is a good first step because a lot of media conditions them to tie happiness and status to female approval. I think boys should learn early that attraction is not the same thing as purpose. A dude who constantly needs validation becomes emotionally dependent on o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 07:25 AM
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Classic feminist double standards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 07:22 AM
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Still doesn't change the fact men are more likely to open up to other men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:21 AM
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Yae the discourse around this movie will be super annoying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 10:48 PM
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Exactly. The best option is to teach young boys not to care about female validation. Even though this option will still get a lot of serious push back from feminist. Oh the irony.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 10:18 PM
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Most men even conservative men think the manosphere is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:33 PM
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They already treat women well. To to point men stop caring about their mental health. That's why the phrase "happy wife, happy life" exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:32 PM
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If that was true women wouldn't use insult like gay or virgin for men who care about wanting female validation or make fun of men for not getting pussy by calling them incels. So insults by women debunk your argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:30 PM
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But yet men are still the only ones that get shame for not helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:15 PM
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Im not whining, im just pointing out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:20 AM
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Are you serious here? I see non/s. Such a silly comment. By that logic this should mental disorders for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:46 AM
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Thank you for being open minded OP.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 09:45 AM
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A lot of women are what I called hybrids. Feminist tradcons.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/05/26 09:42 AM
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No it’s not you 🤡. You are projecting a whole worldview onto me that I never argued for. At no point did I say men deserve automatic respect, authority, leadership, or status because they are “protectors.” That is something you inserted into the conversation yourself. My actual point has been consistent from the beginning: society still holds onto traditional expectations for men when convenient, while pretending those expectations no longer exist whenever men point them out. You keep trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:36 AM
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I hit a nerve, because I don't adhre to your silly standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:26 AM
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I don't give a fuck about sharing valor. Beacause I don't give a shit about your female praise or validation. And no, women aren't the ones expected to be protectors lol. If that was the case, you guys wouldn't call men cowards and give women a pass for being scared or running away. That alone destroys your whole argument. Because if society truly saw women as the default protectors, then women would receive the same moral condemnation men get whenever they avoid danger, freeze up, or prioritize…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:19 AM
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This point flew over your head. Nobody is denying that traditional male roles historically came from men too. The point is that modern progressive discourse selectively rejects gender roles for women while still socially reinforcing a lot of the traditional ones for men. You basically admitted it yourself. Women are no longer expected to stay in the kitchen because feminism challenged and dismantled those expectations. Cool. But when it comes to men, the protector role is still constantly treate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:50 AM
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Women aren't expected to be provider's or even have jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:00 AM
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I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 12:37 AM
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Again, why aren’t progressive women reinforcing their own traditional gender roles too? They conveniently only reinforce the male gender roles from the patriarchy. I wonder why. 🤔 Because that’s the contradiction people are pointing out. Whenever traditional expectations for women come up, the response is usually “women should be free to choose” and “nobody should be forced into outdated gender roles.” Fair enough. But when it comes to men, suddenly a lot of those same people still strongly rein…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:55 PM
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How is acid such a common weapon for these random men? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:59 PM
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Men wouldn't even be allowed to joke about something like that.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/05/26 10:58 PM
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No he wouldn't. But at least he more consistent than feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:40 PM
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Nice way to dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:39 PM
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He can still go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:38 PM
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This argument is dumb. Because the women in these situations are usually getting harm by their boyfriends or husbands, not random men they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:34 PM
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It's usuall women calling me gay for not engaging in behavior they would call creepy if other men did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:32 PM
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No will still have this opinion. Men aren't obligated to be women protectors. So enough with emotional manipulation bs here. Because I know damn well aren't thinking about a woman running away while your son is in danger. And if you want to keep being one, that’s fine but you can’t expect people to praise you as a hero when you did nothing and ran when someone was vulnerable. I don't give a fuck about praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:30 PM
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I never claimed to be a protector. And that’s actually the core issue with your framing. You’re arguing against a slogan “men are protectors” as if it is a literal contract that every man is claiming for himself, instead of a cultural label that gets unevenly applied, often from outside the individual. And even when women do step in, it is often in contexts where there is a strong implicit expectation that the violent person will not escalate against them in the same way, or where the social cos…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:27 PM
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The men saying this never claimed to be protectors. And the men who consider themselves protectors still have the same take as you here. So ironically you and Andrew Tate would agree here lol. He would also call men cowards for not getting involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:17 PM
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Thank you. I really appreciate this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 09:15 PM
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It funny how you are always saying women aren't a monolith or "tHaT's tWo dIfFeRnT wOmAn." But all of a sudden the men who say men should be protectors and the men who say men shouldn't be protectors are the same crowd to you now. This you. Men need to stop branding themselves as “protectors” if expecting protection from men is suddenly oppression. You can’t glorify masculinity around being stronger, braver, and more protective than women when it benefits men socially, then turn around and act s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:13 PM
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A feminist is literally calling men cowards on this thread. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/UvvzyDgkVb
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:58 PM
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And some women laugh at the fact these men are lonely still.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:57 PM
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Proving my point here lol. If you truly didn't see men as protectors, you wouldn't feel the need to insult men by calling them cowards. And bet your "women are natural protectors" BS goes straight out the window when you see women not stepping in to help. You’re doing the exact same thing you’re accusing men of doing, just flipped. You’re taking a messy public safety situation where most civilians don’t intervene and turning it into a gendered moral scorecard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:56 PM
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You too much of clown to realized that you are still doing the same moral shaming tactic. Therefore proving my point. What you’re describing on the TTC is not some simple “men vs women bravery test,” it’s a chaotic public safety environment where the majority of people, regardless of gender, do not intervene in violent or unstable situations. That includes men and women. The idea that “men just sit and do nothing while women always step in” is a selective memory based on what stands out emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:53 PM
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It’s funny how feminists never try to enforce the expectations about women staying in the kitchen or not working. They only enforce the ones about men. I wonder why. 🤔 Because that’s basically the pattern people are pointing at. Traditional expectations about women were mainly restriction based. Don’t work, don’t lead, stay in the home, be dependent. Modern feminism is obviously against that, so those rules get challenged and dismantled. But the expectations aimed at men were never really about …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:50 PM
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Buddy it's women who need the logical consistency here. Nobody serious is saying protection is a “sexual contract.” That part is a strawman, and everyone agrees it’s wrong. The actual argument is about expectations versus reality, not “men protect therefore sex is owed.” The inconsistency people are pointing at is simpler. In everyday discourse, men are often framed as inherently risky or potentially dangerous, which justifies female caution around them. But at the same time, the same general ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:28 PM
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Your sisters are usually calling the male bystanders cowards while also ignoring the female bystanders that was there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:26 PM
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You’re treating “creepy vs confident” like it’s purely about behavior when in reality it’s also heavily filtered through attractiveness. An important part people avoid saying out loud is that the same exact approach is not judged the same depending on who is doing it. A socially attractive man can be nervous, awkward, even slightly clumsy and it still gets read as endearing. An unattractive man can do the exact same thing and it gets interpreted as intrusive. That’s not about morality, it’s abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:26 PM
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«The issue here is that danger sometimes only makes itself known when it's too late for you to do anything about it. That's why blanket precautions are taken.» And I already said I understand precautions. My point is not “women should trust every stranger.” My point is that people cannot simultaneously normalize generalized suspicion toward men while pretending that this has zero social effect on how men interact with women. If men internalize the message that they may be viewed as threatening b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:20 PM
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That is exactly why a lot of men get frustrated with these conversations. The standards can feel impossible and contradictory at the same time. If a man approaches women confidently, he risks being viewed as creepy, predatory, invasive, or unsafe. But if men stop approaching altogether, people turn around and complain that men are too passive, checked out, antisocial, or unwilling to initiate romance anymore. At the same time, women are told to treat unknown men cautiously for safety reasons, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:08 PM
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MAYBE that is what YOU are saying. But a lot of feminists and women online absolutely use this argument as a moral shaming tactic toward men specifically. I already acknowledged that men are statistically more likely to be victims of violence from other men. Most men already know this. That is literally why men are cautious in certain neighborhoods, situations, and times of day too. The issue is that the conversation suddenly changes when male fear gets brought up. When women fear men, it is tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:05 PM
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First of this woman was attacked by her boyfriend, not some random man she didn't know. I do not care if women take precautions around dangerous people. Everybody takes precautions around danger. My issue is the inconsistency and selective logic that gets used in these conversations. If men are supposedly these terrifying unpredictable predators at all times, then why are men still expected to confidently approach women romantically in public? Why are men still expected to initiate dates, flirt,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:01 PM
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He was accused of a hate crime (socially in public opinion) for protecting women on a NYC train from a mentally ill black man who was yelling out threats on the train. He went to jail after, for killing the man. But IIRC he was pardon, because it rule self defense. Since he was protecting the old women in train.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 03:43 PM
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Exactly they are always picking and choosing their narratives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 03:41 PM
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Can you link that video?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 09:37 AM
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Nice try here. You are switching the topic. The topic was about trans women giving the reasons why cis men won't date them. It's Trans women bringing this topic up in the first place, not cis men. The same cis men they call violent, but still want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:46 PM
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Criticize homophobic culture, sure, but it's so transparent to only criticize the straight women who won't fuck non-straight people. Because the straight women are the ones constantly ignore, and only act like men are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:23 PM
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Hypothetical? There are studies that prove that majority of women won't date non straight. What you mean by you? Even though I don't date trans women. It has nothing to do with cis women. I actually don't care what women in general think lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:11 PM
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The post is about women influence because it's either ignore or downplay in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:09 PM
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We also live in society that also teaches men that's it gay to care what other men think. That's popular take among men. Even a lot of conservative men think like this. Women and feminists tend to forget this. When they also ironically make jokes about men being gay for caring about male validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:26 PM
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So a woman is also insecure if she doesn't want to be seen dating a broke man too? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:03 PM
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All I said is that cis men aren't the only ones to blame here lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:59 PM
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I know damn well you are the type of feminist that goes on about how the patriarchy beauty standards influence women, and you don't call that insecurity. But you would never give that grace to men though. The moment men are influenced by social expectations around masculinity, dating, or status, suddenly it is just "male cowardice" and "male insecurity" with zero nuance involved. Human beings are social creatures. Both men and women modify behavior based on how society reacts to them. That is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:57 PM
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Im sure both of you guys are right. Most cis men aren't attracted to trans women due to body autonomy. A lot of straight men just don't find dick attractive. But at the same time though, the number of cis men attracted to trans women, is far bigger than people think. Bigger than the amount gay or bi men. So I think both extremes are wrong here. It is not true that every straight man secretly wants trans women. But it is also not true that attraction to trans women is some ultra rare thing only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:52 PM
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Buddy you are not in the minds of billions of cis men lol. You are acting like I said every man secretly wants to date trans women but is too scared to do it. That is not even close to my point. My point is that for the men who are attracted to trans women, there are multiple social pressures involved. Not just fear of being called gay by other men. A lot of these men also know that many cis women will view them differently too. Especially when it comes to masculinity and desirability. You sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:49 PM
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Are you trans? Thsat would explain why they act differently when alone with you. Because the sane way they act around male peers. Will also be the same way they act when alone cis women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:45 PM
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I said "Most of these men." And also having genital preferences is a thing. And also. There are two scenarios. 1: I'm not attracted to women with dicks, that's not something I'm into. 2: I'm not attracted to women with dicks, because I don't want to be gay bro. There is huge difference between 1 and 2. 1 is just a preference. And 2 is definitely a social pressure lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:43 PM
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Regardless of whether you think these men are straight or not. The pressure still exist for these men though. Since these men are still not attracted to masculine cis men or even cis men that are fem boys. Therefore creating a limited dating pool for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:39 PM
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Mate this post isn't about that. It's about social pressure around dating trans women coming from both cis men and cis women, instead of just coming from cis men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:34 PM

Wanting your cake and wanting to eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:04 PM
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Women can also be bad st commutating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:27 PM
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Women aren't a fucking robix cube. People keep sneaking “skill” into the conversation like it overrides every other factor, when most attraction happens long before some magical charisma stat gets evaluated. Looks, height, status, environment, and timing do way more heavy lifting than people want to admit. A lot of so called “game” is just attractive people getting their behavior interpreted more positively in the first place. If skill mattered anywhere near as much as people claim, then awkward…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:39 AM
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Calling the man ugly is proving my point 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Because the moment you frame everything as “he’s just ugly and that’s that,” you’re basically admitting baseline traits dominate outcomes before anything else even gets evaluated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:48 PM
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This is just anecdote, not evidence. You’re looking at a small set of people you personally know and trying to infer a universal rule from it, which is a classic sampling bias problem. Your conclusion also hides a false dichotomy: “either he’s socially competent or there’s no other explanation,” when in reality there are plenty of missing variables like environment, visibility, timing, mental health, attractiveness thresholds, and simple lack of exposure to compatible women. So all you’re really…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:35 PM
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Im not the attractive guy here lol. I still get compliments from women without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:34 PM
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You’re still doing the same thing, just with more intensity: taking “agency matters” and inflating it into “almost everything is controllable, therefore most failure is personal failure.” The “3 billion women” argument is just a numbers illusion. Availability does not equal access. Dating is filtered by geography, age, culture, social networks, attractiveness thresholds, and platform dynamics long before “effort” can operate. Turning that into “colossal personal failure” is BS. Your “if none are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:29 PM
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You’re basically redefining “skill” to mean “being a well-adjusted, liked person overall.” At that point “skill issue” stops being a specific explanation for dating and just becomes a vague label for general life success. You’re also leaning heavily on your personal social circle as evidence, which is always going to be biased. “The cool guys I know all get dates” doesn’t account for people outside your environment, different age ranges, different social scenes, or just people you don’t see. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:19 PM
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You’re still muddying the waters here, just in a more aggressive way. You keep expanding “skill issue” until it basically means everything in life. If everything from money to geography to mental health is just “skill,” then the word loses any actual meaning and just becomes a label for outcomes you don’t like. You’re still doing the same outcome = character flaw jump. “No women interested” gets treated like direct proof of personal failure, instead of considering filtering, visibility, or the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:11 PM
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You are still muddying the waters in a pretty clear way. First, you are building a strawman version of “sexual directness” that nobody is actually defending in that literal form. Criticizing extreme, explicit statements like that doesn’t address the actual argument, which is about where sexual intent sits on the spectrum between flirting and direct expression. Second, you trying to collapse a spectrum into a binary. In real life, flirting already includes varying degrees of sexual explicitness d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:08 PM
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None of that proves your stronger your argument that most struggling men are primarily facing a skill deficit rather than a distribution problem. You’re treating “some skill matters” as if it justifies collapsing everything else into skill. That’s the jump. That’s where your argument breaks. Saying “there’s no alternative but self-improvement” is a practical stance, not an explanatory one. It tells someone what to do, not what caused their situation. And your own examples actually reinforce the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:20 PM
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Calling out a comparison as “hyperbolic” is not a deflection when the point is that your framework overgeneralizes “skill” until it explains everything and therefore explains nothing. If your definition of skill includes personality, neurology, economics, and social opportunity, then it is no longer a useful analytical category, just a label you attach to every outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:02 PM
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That doesn’t actually rebut the point, it just shifts the definition of “socializing” after the fact. Being “nice and considerate” is not the same skill set as initiating, escalating, handling rejection, and building romantic momentum. Those are different social tasks with different risk, pressure, and payoff structures. Saying men “want sex more so they must initiate” is also a social norm explanation, not a natural law. It describes how dating scripts are structured, not proof that skill alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:55 PM
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Because attractive men don't need to do much to attract women in the first place lol. That’s exactly why your framing collapses into circular reasoning. You define success as “having enough skill to succeed,” but then treat baseline attractiveness as just another skill output. If looks, height, and status already heavily pre-select outcomes, then what you’re calling “skill” is often just marginal adjustment inside a pre-filtered pool. You also contradict yourself by saying it’s not a meritocracy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:52 PM
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I think he is trying to muddy the waters here. Which is terrible advice men. Calling men autistic is always a red-flag. He is overcomplicating something simple to sound more correct than he is. Flirting and being sexually direct are not separate categories in practice, they’re points on the same spectrum of expressing attraction. Trying to police a hard boundary between them ignores how most real-world interactions actually blend signals depending on context and mutual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:49 PM
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Like another commenter pointing out. You are doing the “women are wonderful” meme here. Proving the point of my post. You’re still collapsing “never succeeded yet” into “therefore personal failure,” which is exactly the over-attribution problem I was calling out. Saying “just improve yourself enough to eventually meet a woman” assumes there is always a reachable skill threshold that guarantees outcomes, which is not how attraction or matching actually works. Plenty of people improve significantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:47 PM
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You’re doing a classic move here: you’re relabeling almost every variable as “skill issue” until the word stops meaning anything. Looks can be managed, but not rewritten at will. Grooming and fitness improve presentation, not baseline facial structure, height, bone structure, or aging trajectory. Calling that a skill issue is just ignoring ceilings. Income being “simple tasks done well” is just not how economies or upward mobility work in real life. If it were that easy, income inequality wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:45 PM
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Women aren't basketballs LMAO. Women aren't that complex when it comes to things they find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:40 PM
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A skill women aren't expected to have since they aren't the ones approaching men. Socializing is a skill, yes, but you’re pretending it functions as a universal bottleneck when the actual demand is uneven across genders and contexts. Men are disproportionately expected to initiate, persist, and navigate rejection, which makes “skill” and “opportunity structure” impossible to separate cleanly. If one group is forced to take 90% of the initiative, then variance in outcomes is not just skill varian…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:37 PM
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Struggling can also be external too lol. That is the whole point people keep ignoring whenever they reduce everything to “skill.” A man can be socially competent and still struggle because of looks, height, mental health, class, location, social isolation, bad timing, niche personality traits, or limited opportunities. Failing to achieve a desired outcome does not automatically reveal the exact cause of the failure. Otherwise you would have to believe every successful dater is highly skilled and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:35 PM
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You are stretching the definition of “skill issue” so broadly that it becomes meaningless. At that point literally every human outcome becomes a skill issue, including poverty, loneliness, anxiety, social class, and even bad luck. You are pretending like social skills are the central variable while minimizing biological, environmental, and structural factors that people do not fully control. A socially intelligent 5'4 broke autistic man with is not operating under the same dating conditions as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:34 PM
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You are still just redefining “undesirable” into a nicer sounding version of “skill issue.” A man can be undesirable in a specific dating market without that automatically meaning he failed socially or morally as a person. If repeated rejection can result from looks, height, class, geography, mental health, social isolation, bad timing, niche personality traits, or incompatible environments, then clearly the issue is broader than just “skill.” That is exactly why I used absolute language in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:32 PM
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You say dating is simple, but then immediately list variables like looks, money, social circles, geography, culture, and mental health as if those are all effortlessly controllable by every man. That is literally my point about complexity. “Your looks are malleable” is not a rebuttal. Height, facial structure, age, disability, race, hair loss, and genetic baseline exist whether you like it or not. “Broke men that slay” is anecdotal nonsense. Exceptions do not disprove that status, lifestyle, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:29 PM
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People act like “social skills” explain everything because it protects the fantasy that dating is a fair meritocracy when it obviously is not. If skill was the main factor, then toxic, abusive, immature, and socially dysfunctional men would not consistently succeed with women either. Attraction is influenced by looks, height, status, timing, social circles, culture, and pure luck long before personality even enters the equation. Two men can behave almost identically and still get completely diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:26 PM
3

Feminist love homophobia and toxic masculinity when it comes to men.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/05/26 11:18 PM
13

Misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 01:55 PM
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The hatred society has towards autistic men should definitely be studied.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 09:12 PM
29

Exactly, this is why I don't consider myself ally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 08:41 AM
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Feminists are making internalized misandry worse for male feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 08:40 AM
5

Strawman, i never said that. My whole point is that men can't pursue women without having the potential of pursuing women. Again that's muddying the waters. That's an oxymoron. I never said men and women can't be friends. What I’m saying is you can’t treat “friendship behaviour” and “romantic interest behaviour” like they’re always separable signals. That’s where the confusion starts, not from men inventing things out of thin air. You keep acting like there’s a clean rulebook where women behave …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:25 PM
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Again here we go again with this vague “read the room” bs. People say this like women all share the same social rules and reactions. One woman thinks a guy being direct is confident, another thinks it’s pushy. One woman likes teasing and sexual jokes early, another thinks it’s immature. Then after the fact people pretend the outcome was “obvious.” That’s hindsight bias. And the funniest part is women themselves constantly admit men misread friendliness as attraction, which already proves the “ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:13 PM
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Same experience. I work a 10 hour warehouse job lifting huge and heavy couches, tables, glass mirrors, abd draws. Sometimes I even get hurt, and need tape up my cuts. It's mostly men working these jobs, and having similar injuries too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/26 04:56 PM
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That's why we need to use this argument before they do. And a good rebuttal to that is more men still work dangerous jobs, then men who rape or abuse. Because the average man can relate to working a very hard warehouse job. The average man can't relate to raping women though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/26 04:40 PM
1

How did I agree with her lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:12 PM
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Women are also afraid of their iwn shadows too. Since they aren't the gender approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:11 PM
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OP argument always pretends looks, status, and height magically stop mattering the second a guy opens his mouth. They don’t. That MLB pitcher got the date in the first place BECAUSE he was attractive and high status. Most average dudes would never even get that opportunity. And people keep using examples of attractive men fumbling as proof “game matters more.” No, it proves attractive men can afford to fumble more often because they get more chances. An average guy saying corny shit gets filtere…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:59 PM
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Because those men attracted women with their looks, status, and money. Not vague shit like seeing signals, or having rizz/game lol. Men in past generations were still expected to approach directly and risk rejection. The difference is women depended on men more economically and socially back then, so average men had more leverage than they do now. And even then, tons of men still struggled with women. You guys just ignore those men because history only remembers the successful ones. Survivorship…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:54 PM
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I think this is actually a good idea. The inconsistent people ruin it for everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:32 PM
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Noooooooo, this is the same muddying of the waters, that put men in these dumb situations with women in the first place. Men can't romantically pursue women without having the intentions of romantically pursuing women LMAO. The goal here is for the man to either have platonic friendship or relationship with the woman. It can't be both. That's feminists and blue guys fuck up. You guys keep proving my point about how inconsistent these “signals” are. You say women being enthusiastic, wanting to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:30 PM
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The perfect rebuttal to the "saying not all men is bad" argument. Is telling feminists to keep the same energy for men who work dangerous jobs, and maintain society. All of a sudden feminists ironically use the "not all men" argument in this context, by saying the average man aren't working dangerous job or contributing to society. So the average man can't take credit for other men accomplishment. But also the average man must be hold accountable for rapists and abusers though. Again this is the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/26 02:41 PM
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Men are dumb for not being mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:02 PM
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You’re proving my point without realizing it. Those “signals” only seem obvious after the fact when attraction is already confirmed. A lot of women act friendly, enthusiastic, or curious with people they simply enjoy being around socially. That does not automatically equal romantic interest. That's according to most women right. The problem is men are constantly told not to “misread signals,” but then also told the signals are supposedly easy to decode. Those two messages contradict each other. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:01 PM
9

Such a great video.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 10:48 PM
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Wait are you calling me an insecure red-pilled Tate fan here? I’m pro gender abolishment and men decentering women. This post is about the gaslighting society does. You basically agreed with half my point already. You admitted most straight people prefer other straight people and that women generally dislike exaggerated caricatures of masculinity — which still means masculinity itself is not the problem. You’re arguing against extremes while pretending the baseline trend doesn’t exist. Also, cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:58 AM
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When did I say they can't be those things? Lol. This post about society perception, not about what bi men can't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:52 AM
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I didn't equate these things. They are all things society consider to be untraditional for men. Bi men are on the same level as straight men who don't pay on dates in society. This video explains it really well. And btw Aba and Preach aren't red-pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:58 PM
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I brought up pegging because the post is about society trying to gaslight men into thinking women like stuff, they wouldn't normally like in reality. Pegging is just one of many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:14 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/Bjo3DKjVHqY?si=ClsmF9-5IECCY3KC
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:10 PM
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Heck even progressive women have assume that im feminine because I don't want to be a provider or protector for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:03 PM
1

So why did you describe bisexual men as 'not traditionally masculine men', or juxtapose them to 'traditionally masculine men'? Because that's how society views bisexual men, not me. Also even if you saying that women are not attracted to bisexual men wouldn't be the hot take it is, it would still be biphobic and homophobic from those women, so it still wouldn't be okay. People like to pretend like it's a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:56 PM
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You completely missed the point and replaced it with middle-school sarcasm because actually addressing the argument would require effort. Nobody said feminism is “supposed” to make women attracted to feminine men. The point is that people online constantly pretend those preferences are way more common than they actually are in real-world dating. And thanks for proving the exact point by the way. The second somebody mentions attraction patterns, you immediately jump to “haha you must secretly wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:54 PM
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The whole point of this post is society loves gaslighting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:48 PM
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Sorry that a woman didn't wanna clap your cheeks bro Don't project your fantasies on me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:47 PM
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Not that I 100 percent disagree with you here. There is a huge difference between trans women and bi men though. Trans women are valid. But trans women and cis women will still have obvious differences. While there are no differences between straight men and bisexual men. A better comparison would be a man not wanting to date bi women. Or a YT man not wanting to date YT women who have dated men from certain demographic in their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:35 PM
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Except that's not the argument the manosphere is making. This is strawman. The whole point is that they think men get more successful with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:15 PM
2

I never heard this one before. (NOT you OP)
/r/EverydayMisandry15/05/26 07:12 AM
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I'll pass.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/05/26 05:39 AM
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Yeah, him downplaying the reality star really exposes them here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 08:03 AM
1

The irony here is that the Gynocentrism par6s of the patriarchy is what feminists like the most and want to still maintained in society.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/05/26 02:20 AM
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They make up 99 percent of the building of society too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 01:21 AM
2

I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 05:13 PM
5

Thank you for highlighting all the dumb comments on that vid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 05:15 PM
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I agree with this. Thank you for bringing this up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 05:13 PM
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If that was true the media would've never cover any stories about men opting out. There would be no "masculinity crisis". Since only unattractive men are opting out. And the ironic thing is the unattractive men are the ones most likely to approach women, and still do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:36 AM
3

I agree. These creatures aren't real. And women are less punish for believing in wacky things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 07:23 PM
0

This is true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:14 PM
2

It's called benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:58 PM
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Women also don't want date bi men because of the same mindset too. Society thinks it's degrading to be fucked by men. Hence why the most progressive feminists are always saying they hate their attraction to men, and how it makes them sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:57 PM
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Finally people are catching onto internalised misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:55 PM
12

Exactly. 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 01:03 PM
3

Why? Because you keep on ignoring the obvious fact that society does have a problem when men opting out. Even you yourself reduce it to sex. That’s the whole reason I brought up the connection in the first place. The second men disengage from dating, marriage, emotional investment, or traditional expectations, people instantly start moralizing it instead of treating it as neutral. You literally just did it by framing male disengagement as a “moral failing.” And yes, words have meaning. Society i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:02 AM
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You’re getting hyper-fixated on the literal wording of “society” while ignoring the actual point being made. Obviously nobody thinks men are talking about vanishing from civilization, living in caves, and refusing to buy groceries. That’s just an intentionally absurd interpretation used to make the discussion sound ridiculous instead of engaging with what people actually mean. The point is that relationships, marriage, family building, emotional investment, gender roles, and social expectations …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:47 AM
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For starters men are already opting out. Not literally disappearing into the woods and becoming cavemen. That’s the strawman people always jump to because it sounds easier to mock. When men talk about opting out, most are clearly talking about checking out of traditional social expectations involving women, relationships, marriage, dating, emotional labor, and gender roles. Less dating. Less marriage. Less approaching women. Less protecting and providing. Less interest in family building. Less e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:19 AM
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You’re treating “not supporting women’s causes” as morally comparable to being silent toward injustice. That already assumes men have some social obligation toward women beyond basic human decency. My point was never that women can’t decenter men. My point is that society reacts very differently when men do the same thing. When women decenter men, it’s framed as empowerment, independence, healing, or self growth. But when men decenter women, people immediately become suspicious of their morality…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:47 AM
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Feminists love him, because he support their cakidm Feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 03:16 PM
0

Women also say it's embrassing to have a boyfriend too. And also this idiot Andrew Tate is still probably arguing that men should have multiple girlfriends. So you manage to make yourself look more silly than freaking Andrew Tate. Which is a impossible feat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:51 PM
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Most women still date men who have resentful views about women. The only difference is that these misogynistic men are still playing the game. Women are far more likely to hate non-misogynistic men who don't play the game than misogynistic men who do play the game. This the bear vs man analogy. The predictable danger vs the unpredictable danger. In this case misogyny is still more predictable for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:40 PM
0

It's so ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:37 PM
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Yep
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 02:36 PM
0

This is true. Progressive women will do anything to make sure their benevolent patriarchy status quo stays strong in society. They want men to stay in this super rigid box, where men are traditionally masculine liberal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:38 PM
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More men are opting out. But this a good thing for men. Maybe it's not a good thing for feminist women who love their cakism. But men decentering women is good for society in the long run though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:35 PM
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This is funny. Because the comment above you is a woman talking about how she likes attention from men lol. You can't say it's two different women or women aren't a monolith. Because you are acting like you speak for all women with this comment. Stop acting like male attention was ever some kind of gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:32 PM
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How do you know OP is the one catcalling women though? 🤔. You are kind of assuming he is the type to harm women. Which is bad, and ironically proving the point. And that's not true. When men like us leave women alone. We ate called misogynists or incels (ironic).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:27 PM
4

Either way women still want men to interact with them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:26 PM
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Society feels entitled to men doing everything to benefit it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 01:24 PM
0

That's the thing though. Women with liberal leanings are far more common than hardcore feminists. So my two options are either date women I'm not compatible with or decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:23 AM
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It's hard to find women who don't care about male gender roles. Even feminists care about traditional male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:15 AM

Men need to learn to decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:29 PM
1

What do you consider short?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:53 PM
1

Moving the goal post this is you here. I challenge you to find me proof of a woman saying this or your point is dismissed. You never made specific to women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:36 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/DwhUIpBDS2 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/YGWBpGprHJ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/5QBbuXTKXH https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Bd4EbEUwu4 https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/lzpJvIGlbK
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:15 PM
2

I thought you didn't believe in the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:07 PM
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Oh the classic "It doesn't happen" Reddit argument. https://youtube.com/watch?v=kxPUJMZSOAM&si=6n-IZTcfa8EpVybA https://youtube.com/watch?v=3G6B_j-tXDg&si=j-9uWhXm5rlFaUyn https://youtube.com/watch?v=TOXQqU3x-sM&si=Vp_7cD-DNxUl8Imn https://youtube.com/watch?v=ScJoMn9xavU&si=-n1B7leD7Evc07ue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:52 PM
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The other felt emasculated by his male friends and even though his career made exponentially less than his wife (a corporate attorney) he was willing to throw that all away to feel like "the man". Again. Men cannot be trusted in this regard. They all think they can do it until they're met with reality. Because men feel this shame because of societal expectations. Even their wives or girlfriends would still try use this against them in arguments when it's convenient. So women can't be trusted her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:48 PM
3

Educated women still date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:33 PM
0

The same world that also teaches that women don't care about those shortcomings too. Welcome to a dumb world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:08 PM
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The main gripe with blue pill is that often time they treat women as a benevolent good monolith. There’s billions of women, some amazing and moral, some horrible people and most lie somewhere in between. Not that I disagree with you here. But note the blue crowd are also the ones saying that women aren't a monolith when it comes men giving women criticism. So whether they view women as a monolith or not is always dependent on how convenient it is for whatever narrative they are trying to promote…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:05 PM
1

No amout intersectionality will change the fact that gay men, bisexual men, and trans women still have it worse than their counterparts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 10:04 AM
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Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 10:59 PM
13

Hasan ironically using red-pill talking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 10:59 PM
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Hasan loves toxic masculinity when it harms men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 10:57 PM
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Your argument falls apart because it keeps conflating adulthood with masculinity. I never argued against responsibility, maturity, or growing up. I argued against attaching a rigid gender identity to those things. Being an adult and being masculine are not the same concept, and pretending they are is exactly the issue. The “gender roles arose naturally” point also gets overstated constantly. Human societies had natural elements, sure, but they also had slavery, arranged marriages, rigid class sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:51 PM
1

They opting out after dating women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:27 PM
1

The alternative is still toxic and harm men. The problem here is that you are only focused on how toxic masculinity or positive masculinity will affect women, not men. I’m talking about how both models can still pressure men into unhealthy expectations and self sacrifice. For example, toxic masculinity tells men to suppress emotions because weakness is unattractive. Positive masculinity often just reframes this into “manage your emotions properly for the comfort of others.” Either way the man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:47 PM
1

Buddy you are on the wrong platform to talk about bringing back traditional female expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:38 PM
-1

Not adding up with reality buddy. More young boys are opting out of society. So deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:36 PM
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Men shouldn't make their lives revolved around women. They can just decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:35 PM
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Men shouldn't be expected to be supporter for women. The same way women aren't expected to be supporters of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:34 PM
0

That's what a scam is. Something that don't exist lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:29 PM
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I think you’re mixing up three different things here: survival, social judgment, and moral expectations tied to gender. I’m not arguing against people working or contributing to society. I’m pointing out how “contribution” gets turned into a gendered identity test specifically for men in a way it often doesn’t for women anymore. And no, I’m not saying anyone should be able to become a NEET without consequences or that life would stay the same. That’s not realistic. My point is that people alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:09 PM
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Feminists also say that there are no male role models too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:07 PM
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That response is missing the point I’m actually making. I’m not saying anyone is legally required to do anything, I’m talking about social expectations, judgment, and how gendered standards show up through culture, dating norms, and workplace pressure. And the “you can just quit your job and be a NEET” point is kind of out of touch with reality. Most people can’t just casually replace income or easily find new work. Jobs aren’t something you just pick up instantly, especially with how unstable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:00 PM
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Oh holy strawman. Again you don’t have this same energy for women and would never say this response to women. That framing is exactly the problem I’m pointing at, because it assumes the only alternative to “positive masculinity” is total social decay in men. That’s not what I’m saying at all. What I’m saying is men should have the same freedom women increasingly get, which is to not have a moral checklist tied to their gender. Nobody says women who reject traditional roles are “emotionally usele…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:55 PM
1

That just shows the bar is in hell for women. Because all they have to do is just exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:52 PM
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The fact there isn't a positive femininity proves my point about positive masculinity. Women are constantly told femininity can mean whatever they want it to mean, or that they can reject femininity entirely. Meanwhile men are still being told they need a socially approved version of masculinity to be considered healthy or good people. That already shows the standard is different. Nobody is constantly lecturing women about “healthy femininity” in the same way men get lectures about healthy mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:50 PM
0

Did you even read the post? I don't have a definition of masculinity at all. Because masculinity is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:47 PM

Your comparison still doesn’t work because my point was always about degree, not two unrelated categories. I never claimed every person literally believes male sexuality is evil incarnate. My point was that male attraction is culturally treated with more caution and suspicion, and over time that absolutely creates a broader social perception of male sexuality as more potentially threatening than female sexuality. And I’m fully aware women have different experiences with male attention. I never d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:32 AM
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No, the second argument was explaining the first, not retreating from it. If male sexuality is routinely treated with more caution, suspicion, and social policing, then people are obviously going to perceive it as more threatening overall. You’re acting like those ideas are disconnected when one naturally feeds into the other. And you keep narrowing this down to only individual women reacting to bad experiences, when I’m talking about broader cultural messaging too. Men constantly hear warnings …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:18 AM
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You keep acting like I made two completely unrelated arguments when the second point was clearly an extension of the first. If society consistently treats male attraction as something that must be restrained, filtered, or carefully managed, then yes, that naturally creates the perception that male sexuality is more dangerous or threatening by default. Those ideas are connected, not separate universes. And notice how your explanation immediately proves my point. The second I talk about male sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:56 AM
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That’s not a motte-and-bailey. My point is that male sexuality is often treated with an underlying suspicion that female sexuality usually isn’t. I used stronger wording earlier, but the broader point still stands: society regularly frames male attraction as something that needs to be monitored, filtered, or restrained in ways female attraction usually isn’t. And the “why do you have to react?” point doesn’t really address what I said. Humans naturally react to sexualized imagery mentally and em…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:04 AM
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You say “who is going with this notion?” but society absolutely treats male sexuality with more suspicion than female sexuality. Men are constantly told to be careful how they look, approach, flirt, text, or even compliment women because it can come off as creepy or threatening. So acting like I completely invented that perception is dishonest. And my point about thirst traps is simple. If someone publicly presents themselves in a sexualized way, people are obviously going to sexualize them. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:16 PM
2

Definitely good to know this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 09:14 PM
2

The first step is at least acknowledging that humans are inconsistent. I will give a ppd woman that I guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:10 PM
3

This is coming from the same crowd that say that women can't magically know what man intentions is. Because he is a stranger lol. It has nothing to do with social skills, or confidence. It's just that we live in a inconsistent society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:22 PM
2

I would like to see the comment, to give it a like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:16 PM
21

Yep she said the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 11:19 AM
2

Well said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 07:57 AM
1

Because I'm not autistic lol. That response isn’t an argument, it’s just a cheap deflection. Saying "autistic” doesn’t address anything I said about contradictions or expectations. It replaces a point with an insult, which usually means they don’t actually have a solid counter. It’s also logically irrelevant. Whether someone is autistic or not has nothing to do with whether a double standard exists. I'm talking about behavior patterns and social expectations, not neurological conditions. They’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:17 AM
2

The same Epstein class too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 12:11 AM
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Red-pill advice is conspiracy theories. There is always some truth mixed in with ridiculous BS. Yes there are elites who engage in pedo shit and human trafficking. But that doesn’t mean the elites are lizard people or time travelers though Yes most women (including feminist women) are attracted traditional masculine men that are good looking, have status, has success, and is 100 percent heterosexual. But that doesn’t mean all women are attracted to serial killers or men the size of Hulk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:59 PM
1

It's literally conspired normal for men to be rude to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:52 PM
3

The same thing females benefit from too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:51 PM
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Women say men are privileged all the god damn too, and that's not considered misandry. So how is it misogynistic to say women have privilege too? 🤔.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:48 PM
3

Redditors not knowing what autism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:42 PM
0

According to the thread that's two different women. And it's impossible for the same woman to think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:43 PM
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How are women feeling pressured, if they don't care what men think? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:41 PM

The homophobia and toxic masculinity here. Women like you are the ones im talking about here. Women blt following gender roles = empowering. Men not following gender roles = gay. Your logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:35 PM
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No my is trying to find a middle ground is exposing the fact that you guys do care about male indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:34 PM
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It still can how? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:33 PM
0

Netflix already did a documentary about this recently. So you are already playing this game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:32 PM
1

Then patriarchy can't affect those women, if thwy don't feel pressured to wear make up to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:18 PM
-1

*That real woman who both hates and loves controlling behaviors sure does sound challenging to date. I guess don’t date her if you find her. Fix that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:17 PM

They hate it when I don't adhere to male gender roles. Despite all the women in my life outside my mom being feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:16 PM
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Excaly proving my point. The fact they are trying to argue for a middle ground in the first place. After this whole thread using "it's two different people" argument. Now you guys are using the "middle ground" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:15 PM
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Saying you "don't care" if your teenaged daughter gets involved in sex work is still shitty parenting even if I think sex work should be safe and legal. Bingo. That's exactly what im talking about here. Heard the same arguments from the problem sex feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:14 PM
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Except they are complaining about both things. Trying to find a middle ground is proving my point. That's whatvall these comments do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:12 PM
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Oh now it's the BS "TikTok is not real" argument. You do know that actual humans use social media right. 🤔 If I show real life examples with my sisters. You would call that antedotal. So you will always move the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:59 PM
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Good job. But you are the minority here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:58 PM
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https://weareluna.app/parents/guides/mental-health-and-wellbeing/nonchalant-trend/?utm_ https://np.bustle.com/life/current-boyfriend-tiktok-trend-relationships?utm_
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:57 PM

With real people replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:29 PM
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Moving the goal post, that's what you call examples. And the people are replying with thwi real opinions, not fictional opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:28 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/HuSKoNFMCP https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/bQi4pqkfRg https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/HmlekOpK39
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:27 PM
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I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. Tone doesn't matter here. If I truly did care, my reactions would also reflect that. Spoiler alert it always doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:26 PM

Read the thread https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/G5Wyd6VxKo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:20 PM
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Im talking about the replies lol. 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:18 PM

I already did lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:17 PM
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Because I talk to the same individuals. And yes many women do contradict themselves when it comes to men approaching them. Ex A: https://youtu.be/uCVkIO9jIK4?si=lwkOkSQKJwoLlKxP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:13 PM

But yet I can still find examples of people proving my "made up stories" right lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:13 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/G5Wyd6VxKo Read this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:11 PM

Im already doing that. Im in the spreading awareness to other men stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:08 PM
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Cognitive dissonance exist two. Both things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:04 PM
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Read the thread https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/G5Wyd6VxKo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:01 PM
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It depends on how much you want the objectification to influence everyday life with strangers. For example, men giving compliments to random female strangers is bad. Because forces men to be mind readers who know when a random woman wants to be complimented.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:29 PM
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You can still enjoy something that is a net negative for society in general. Both things can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:13 PM
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OP it's important you understand the difference between hostile misogyny and benevolent misogyny. Something both feminists and red-pillers don't understand when it comes to this topic. Of course both are bad at the end of the day. But this study doesn't necessarily prove that women like asshole or abusive hostile misogynists though. It just proves that a lot of women (NOT ALL) just prefer a version of misogyny that is a little bit "nicer". I'm not saying you are 100 percent wrong here OP. But yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:04 AM

I think that's their favorite tactic. The obtuse tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:59 AM
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It's mostly probably due to you being feminist with female gender roles, but still traditional with male gender roles though. Not all, but most progressive women love that cakism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:49 AM

The idea that video games are some special reservoir of misogyny was always just stupid conceit by self-indulgent hypocrites with their heads so far up their own arses that they're convinced that their personal prejudices are actually profound political insight. You pretty much just described the streamer Hasan here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:45 AM
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They don't. They are just biased.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/26 01:54 PM
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So Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff, Adriana Ross, Nadia Marcinkova, and Haley Robson just didn't exist and had no part in recruitment? Feminists like Ana Psychology still considered those women victims, because they were forced by evil men to do crimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/26 01:53 PM
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Sorry that happened to you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/26 04:30 AM
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Intersectionality is used to show how women will always have it worse by some feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 02:14 PM
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It's just so weird.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 11:28 AM
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Young boys are likely to get radicalized by radical feminists. Which is ironic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 04:01 AM
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The same men saying that dumb bs about male male babysitters are also the same men that would agree with her dumb point here.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/04/26 11:05 PM
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Or why not just don't date men. If men are that awful.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/04/26 12:07 AM
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Exactly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 12:50 AM
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Good video. Even though I'm not a fan the "young boys need role models" solution. Since that's usually a dog whistle to enforced traditional masculinity with a feminist gaze on young boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 12:50 AM
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Feminist: "iTs jUsT rAGe bAiT".
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 08:53 PM
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Exactly. They switch narratives, when it's convenient.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/26 08:15 PM
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Same Feminists that say feminism is for men. And that men should start their own movements.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/26 07:34 PM
10

The future is 62 million.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 11:36 PM
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Misandrist conspiracy theories.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 06:25 PM
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And she won't face any backlash for this at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 02:09 PM
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I get what youbsaying emotionally, but logically your argument is all over the place. You are mixing real issues like assault stats with a completely separate claim about a website and acting like they prove the same thing. That’s not how reasoning works. You can’t jump from “bad thing exists” to “most men are predators” without solid evidence connecting those dots. On the 62 million stat, I’m not ignoring it, I’m questioning how it’s being used. A visit count is not the same as 62 million uniqu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 05:34 PM
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Exactly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:42 PM
8

It's truly unfortunate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 12:24 PM
5

Perfect way to describe this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 04:41 AM
8

This is also perfect analogy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 12:31 AM
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Their favorite technique.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:48 PM
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The first YouTuber isn't right-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:12 PM
10

The reach is insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 08:41 PM
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"IM A VICTIM, I HAVE RIGHT TO LIE ABOUT FACTS."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 07:28 PM
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Good to know this information.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 07:27 PM
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I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 06:59 PM
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She wasn't civil too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:49 PM
1

Hypergamy is definitely not biological, some red-pillers may be idiots who think that. But hypergamy is 100 percent social though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:25 PM
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Me too. I thought she was better than this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:18 PM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:25 PM

What you mean. Women are still dating whenever they want lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:24 PM

No many men are single due to not being attractive to women. It's not rocket science. It has nothing to do with personality. Even the most misogynistic men are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:50 PM
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Women literally make it a cute thing to act like they aren't interested in men. This is the best trope in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:46 PM

1: Women are find due to always having options. They live life on easy mode in dating. So women could never fathom not having any options in dating. Women literally can't relate. Hence men are the ones expected to approach women or make the first move in society. 2: Men face far more pressure to be in relationships with women. Because society ties romantic relationships with women to man's success/morality/worth. While on the other hand women are always told it's empowering to decenter men. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:43 PM

1: Women are find due to always having options. They live life on easy mode in dating. So women could never fathom not having any options in dating. Women literally can't relate. Hence men are the ones expected to approach women or make the first move in society. 2: Men face far more pressure to be in relationships with women. Because society ties romantic relationships with women to man's success/morality/worth. While on the other hand women are always told it's empowering to decenter men. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:42 PM

But your female peers will tell you don't need to change at, and you are perfect the way you are. It's men that's the problem with their evil male gaze. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:36 PM

Unpleasant men still have girlfriends lmao. So knock it off with the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:34 PM

No they are not. The bar is in hell flr women. Because all a woman needs to do is just exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:06 AM
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I don't force women to want me. I don't care if women don't want me. I don't have any problem with getting compliments from women. I'm not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:27 AM

It's funny It's always about men having to improve, but never about women having to improve though. Due to the "women are wonderful" affect, women preferences are associated with morality. And men who don't lived up to women preferences/standards must either improve or let their genes die out. That's how we get the just world fallacy here. Men should be thought decenter women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:03 AM
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I don't have to make any appeal. Because it's already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:30 AM
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Men can also not like the rigid expectations women have for them either. And also this is already happening. This generation of men don't approach women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:42 AM
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Women having jobs was considered odd at one point. Now look where we are. Why can't men ever get the same process in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:17 AM
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Trust me they notice when men are gone. https://np.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html And also how I'm I affecting myself here? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:16 AM
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And TikTok isn't in some alternative universe lol. All the red-pill shit is online too. So you can't use this bs argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:31 AM
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https://youtu.be/VWuWFKU57sY?si=zXVVcIVDMPvDIuZl https://youtu.be/CyxAzwRYt_Y?si=Bh4fk9XYG1bu8tCx
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:05 AM
3

Is 4b corny?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:47 PM
3

That is still MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:47 PM
3

Exactly, MGTOW men can still have money, be famous, and be attractive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:32 PM
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Wrong MGTOW mods removed any post that mentioned women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:29 PM
3

I have a personal trauma in the past too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:56 PM
4

MGTOW is literally the same way too. Protecting men from the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:39 PM
2

So like the 4B movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:23 PM
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On the MGTOW sub your post would automatically get removed if mentioned anything about women back then. Because the mods say that posts should be aboutmen going their own way and being happy. So this narrative that "MGTOW men didn't really go there way" isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:05 PM
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Sorry you don't speak for all the straight women that are complaining about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:00 PM
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My mom and sisters do that annoying shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:59 PM
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Oh my god I love you. You are literally the perfect example of all my points said in my posts in this sub. I hope every PPD woman in the sub see this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:58 PM
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Let this sink in for a minute. Despite all the blatant misogyny, red-pill is still more popular than MGTOW. That's because MGTOW goes against the status quo, and red-pill while still being hated, still upholds the status quo. Even Andrew Tate would call MGTOW men losers. In this case, red-pillers are the bear progressive women choose over the MGTOW men they fear. Because they are afraid of the status quo changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:54 PM
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Because I think most progressive women think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:50 PM
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Not surprised at this comment at all. I hope every PPD woman in thread see this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:45 PM
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The men who actually believe this, are still successful with women though. Cough cough Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:44 PM
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https://youtu.be/VWuWFKU57sY?si=zXVVcIVDMPvDIuZl https://youtu.be/CyxAzwRYt_Y?si=Bh4fk9XYG1bu8tCx
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:43 PM
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The popular saying is literally "get the children and the women". So that's putting women needs first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:41 PM
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Winners do whine about women though lol. Even openly misogynistic men like Andrew Tate and Myron are still successful with women LMAO. Losers can also be male feminists most women ignore too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:39 PM
2

Good thing they are doing it. Since you haven't heard of MGTOW in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:38 PM
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Ana is the type of feminist we should be worry about. She isn't an random idiot on the Fresh and Fit podcast.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:37 PM
4

Marriage is hell for men. So the non-married men are the lucky onee.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:36 PM
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No calling out their hypocrisy and cakism is still important. It has nothing to do with wanting their approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:35 PM
2

It's not a scenario, high value men are decentering women too. Im an example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:33 PM
2

Odd how? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:33 PM
0

No you guys are just pretending like this reality don't exist. Because you guys are too afraid to confront this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:32 PM
2

But yet you are still married though. I assume to a man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:18 PM
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I also have research and studies to back up my calims too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:17 PM

"Oh look at me im so hard, because I say other men bitch about women".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:17 PM
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So women needs are more important than men needs? 🤔. Welp, at least you are honest lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:16 PM
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Because attractive are humans who don't want to deal rigid gender roles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:44 PM
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What leverage are you talking about. I think men would be better off if the decenter women, because of society toxic expectations for men. Not something for men to leverage for relationships lol. I don't like how feminists try turn into a "male loser epidemic" type of situation. When in reality it's just more men opting out of rigid toxic expectations for men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:42 PM
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Because you a woman, and those traits benefit you, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:24 PM
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Let me guessed you are probably type of feminist that gets offended by the term female. But still call men males though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:18 PM
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I have no resement, im not an incel. It's usually women who call me gay for not flirting back with them 🤣. You’re arguing against a version of me that doesn’t exist. I’m not mad women don’t want certain men, I’m pointing out how people dismiss something depending on who it’s coming from. Right now it gets brushed off as “bitter losers,” so of course nobody takes it seriously. But if the same mindset showed up in men people actually consider desirable, the conversation would change real quick. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:16 PM
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That’s a nice ideal, but it skips how people actually behave in real life. People say “no one owes anyone attraction,” but still react when trends start affecting them or the dating pool overall. If it truly didn’t matter, there wouldn’t be constant conversations about men not approaching, dating apps being skewed, or “where are all the good men.” So clearly, at some level, it does get noticed. And yeah, nobody should date someone they don’t like. But when a growing number of people opt out for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:13 PM
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Men being expected to be providers, assertive, confident, stoic with their emotions, and the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:05 PM
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You’re kinda proving my point without realizing it. If men stepping away truly didn’t matter, you wouldn’t feel the need to downplay it this hard. People don’t argue this much about things they genuinely see as irrelevant. And it’s not about making women “care” or panic. It’s about pointing out that more men, including attractive ones, are checking out because the expectations feel one-sided and exhausting. That’s a trend, not just some random guy coping. You can call them losers if you want, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:04 PM
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This is a perfect example of most women be red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:01 PM
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Again the fact that you have a boyfriend proves the point. 😂. I don't have a girlfriend. Not because I can't get one. My sisters and mom are always being annoying and asking me to go find a girlfriend. It's just that I have decenter women from my life and don't care about female validation. So f you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have a BF in thw first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:58 PM
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The fact that you still wanna dates, proves the point. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:55 PM
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I know it hurts your feelings so bad that men started not care about female validation anymore. That's why you are being so rude in these replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:53 PM
-1

It's already bad, because women are complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:53 PM
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Because women do care though. The problem isn't women not caring. The problem are women pretending like they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:52 PM
1

The thing is the attractive men are already opting op. There are whole articles with the title "Where have men gone'' And again I'm not incel. It's usually women who think I'm gay or odd when I don't flirt back with them lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:51 PM
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I have 3 feminist sisters who support the LGBTQ community, but still call men in my family the F slur not adhering to any male gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:49 PM
1

Any men who has negative experiences with women or had to deal with rigid gender roles need MGTOW and usually go MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:47 PM
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Im a attractive man who opt out. I get compliments from woman a lot. So im proof of this lol. I'm not an incel. So your toxic masculine shaming won't work on me here. Most young boys arr opting because of people like you with this mindset. You are a perfect example of the feminist I described in this post. This already happens, where there plenty of stories of women getting mad when an attractive rejects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:44 PM
2

MGTOW can be attractive men too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:41 PM
-1

There are also female red-pillers too. Didn't think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:40 PM
0

There are also female red-pillers too. Didn't think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:40 PM
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It's to say that men are the ones who are expected to approach women, pay on dates, and and do everything romance related.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:39 PM
-4

That's happening though lol. Women love talking about how men are sad women don't want ti date them. But they can't handle with the shoe is on the other foot now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:38 PM
1

The whole post about how people say they don't care, while their actions say otherwise. 🤣🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:37 PM
3

That's basically the 4B movement in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:36 PM
2

That's your antedotal evidence. I can do the same thing too. My antedotal evidence shows the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:35 PM
4

You a perfect example of feminists actually having problem with MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:34 PM
0

Female privilege isn't a red-pill concept lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:17 PM
2

Then women date men they don't find attractive at all, outside money of course lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:16 PM
4

Being autistic is bad? 🤔 We learning a lot about women in this thread today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:36 PM
2

Im talking about that type of woman in the last part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:36 PM
2

Everybody died alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:35 PM
-5

I never said I was offended lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:34 PM
3

Women also have red-pill standards for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:08 PM
2

To bad all the single men aren't losers though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:06 PM
-7

Men decentering = gay. AH You gotta love progressive homophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:04 PM
7

That's the 4B movement in a nutshell. Most young boys are leaving without even making a sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:02 PM
0

Because they claim to not care, by their actions says otherwise though. They should take their own advice ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:01 PM
2

Feminists can't even bring up Feminism without hating men. Hating men always the first thing that pop in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:59 PM
5

Attractive men also don't want to deal with the rigid expectations women have for men. I'm one of them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:53 PM
3

Cough cough the 4B movement. Keeo the same energy please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:51 PM
5

Young boys are already going MGTOW. They are just calling themselves MGTOW studies support this. And these young boys aren't Incels either. They have good jobs, cars, and own houses. And they are still choosing ti decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:50 PM
-6

Attractive men who decenter women exist. I'm an example of that. I get compliments from women all the time, I don't care about the validation though. To the point women either find this odd or have to ask if im gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:48 PM
3

Either way, men will still be adhering to rigid gender roles in both systems.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/04/26 10:13 AM
18

Women preferences are associated with morality in society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 08:15 AM
14

Yep these people are morons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 04:14 AM
4

Being an advocate men isn't a red-pill thing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:39 AM
26

These women can't even fathom the fact that women SA men too, and at higher rates than gay men.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/04/26 11:34 PM
2

And Kristi is still straight l, since he was mostly doing this fetish with cis women. And he still git clown by feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 05:44 PM

That's their number one excuse. Despite being vocal when it comes to making fun of men for coming fast, or not being good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:44 PM

Most gut decisions don't get you called creepy or have your reputation ruin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:41 PM
2

True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 02:43 PM
1

It was a freaking pain in the ass to post this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:58 AM
5

Yeah you should tell women this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:37 AM
3

My whole point is that the autism thing is stupid. Bringing up Autism spectrum disorder as a way to explain disagreement or frame someone as incapable of understanding consent is not a valid argument, it’s just a personal label used to dismiss what’s being said. On the main claim, I’m not just saying “men are confused about consent.” The point is also that early sexual communication can be ambiguous, and people interpret signals differently before anything is explicitly agreed on. That does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:57 AM
26

Theor favorite tactic.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/04/26 01:28 AM
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Even if it's not a joke. They just say misandry doesn't exist, or misogyny is worse because it kills, or say misandry is a response to misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 01:23 AM
2

Again I never said this was all women. I said society tries to normalize the fact that some women feel this way. You keep turning a general observation about variability into a claim that I’m stereotyping everyone, which is not what was said. Acknowledging some dynamics is not the same as reducing a whole group to them. As for “mixed signals,” the disagreement is not whether consent is required, it’s about how people interpret early-stage ambiguity and indirect communication differently. That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:21 AM
35

What is even the point of these comments? Lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/04/26 01:16 AM
2

We need rules. We have rules most things that help humans. Why not dating? Especially when it can lead to a lot of danger for women. Humans being messy is the problem here. We already have rules for traffic lights. Why not apply structured logic to other messy situations? Elevator etiquette: people crowd doors, press all buttons, ignore turn-taking, so we create informal rules for entering and exiting in order. Grocery store lines: we rely on lane priority, merging norms, and queue discipline to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:00 AM
2

This is still oversimplifying what “confusion” actually means and quietly turning it into a rare-edge-case narrative. Consent is not just “she didn’t move away so proceed,” it is ongoing, explicit, and context dependent, especially early on where signals are naturally ambiguous. Framing clarity as something you “just know” once attraction appears ignores how different people express interest, especially across personality types and comfort levels. Also, what you’re calling “women who want bounda…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:49 AM
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Your hypocrisy is showing with the trans porn thing lol. I use that example on purpose. To expose the fact that you probably pick and choose when something in porn is a fantasy, because you are more bias towards women. You can’t say porn is “just fantasy” in one breath, then turn around and treat other people’s porn habits as meaningful reflections of identity or social truth. That’s inconsistent. Either porn is broadly fantasy-driven and not a reliable indicator of real-world behavior, or it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:45 AM
2

Dawg you are too busy focusing on a individual level, and ignoring the bigger society. For fuck sakes people have a "knack" for seeing systematic issues in kther areas. But all of all sudden all nuance goes straight out the widow the second the systemetic issues affect men or male gender roles. You’re treating every interaction like it exists in a vacuum, when in reality people are shaped by culture long before they meet each other. Social norms, media, and peer behavior all influence expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:37 AM
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Im speaking in general. And society socialize women to be difficult. That's problem you are ignoring here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:18 AM
2

Cut porn is fantasy BS out. We know damn well if the genders were reversed, and this was straight men watching trans porn. Most women would get the ick and not see that as a fantasy for a straight man. You probably wouldn't call those women autistic in this context. And buddy you are the one making huge allegations about me here. Saying I have no respect for consent. When I was the one who said I didn't want to choke a woman during sex on this post. And again austim has nothing to do with being …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:59 PM
2

Body language is a pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:49 PM
1

I mean bisexual men exist lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:35 PM
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It's the fact the comments are gaslighting OP into thinking this is normal. Saying “society sends no mixed signals” is naive, media, porn, and culture often blur lines around sex and expectations. Claiming “we all have no issues with dating” is a BS lie and you know it. Bringing up autism as an insult is ignorant. Autism spectrum disorder affects communication, not morality or respect for consent lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:33 PM
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Off-topic but most women would consider it a red flag they ever saw their boyfriends watching gay porn. They wouldn't care about fantasy in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:28 PM
0

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:26 PM
5

You proving his point. You are still telling men to man up. And the fact that you are calling it a risk for man to approach woman is ironic too. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:59 PM
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A man created the term toxic masculinity though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:40 AM
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Men feel pressured from society to be in relationships with women in the first place. Remove that social pressure. Then you have less men putting in effort to pursue women. Something women wouldn't like. Because that's privilege women have, to have men always pursuing them. Because it comes with certain benefits in society. Thought I couldn't answer this gotcha question this quick huh. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:36 AM
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Men's DV rates are very close to women DV rates. And mostly women spend time downplaying men's issues, by saying women have it worse. So they don't care to point any men issue out. That's BS to make women look like the better gender. So it's usually men that care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:26 AM
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You didn't explain this fully. That's the double speak strategy. One minute, shame men for asking for help, because it's not women job to make men get laid or be their therapist. So men should stop thinking it's gay to help other men. Then the next minute, call men misogynistic for making their own movements. Saying men don't need a movement, because "feminism is for men too''. And the cycle of shit continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:07 AM
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Most men's issues are connected to female privilege. Remove a men's issue, that female privilege goes away. So it makes sense why a lot of feminists would be adversarial to men's issues. For example, one sided divorce are a men's issues. The solution to that is get of the 50/50 rule. Feminists would hate that because the 50/50 rule benefits women. Again men issues are a byproduct of female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:01 AM
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And the ironic thing more men are caring less about sex. While a lot of women are complaining about that though lol. Some women don't want men to be asexual. They want men to still feel shame about being single. It's only bad when men aren't quiet about their loneliness. Again some women want men to feel the shame of being value so they can still chase women, while shutting up about feeling lonely, so it won't look like they are "blaming women''.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:59 PM
0

Women don't bring up men issues. If that was the case. There would be no men's rights groups
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:54 PM
1

How fun, another reply strawmaning a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:53 PM
2

This is distraction tactic. When men do care about other men issues, feminists are the first one to call the movement misogynistic or use the "feminism is for men, so men don't need a movement" meme argument. They only say that as a way to shut any valid conversation about men's issues. They know damn well they would hate it if they saw men putting men issues first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:52 PM
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Sorry, typos. I mean he has good takes on gender. And he doesn't like a jackass, like some male feminist.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/26 11:34 PM
3

No it's not.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/26 11:32 PM
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This guy is balanced, and not a fool like a lot of male feminists.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/04/26 11:32 PM
2

I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 11:25 PM
10

First of all girls do get radicalized. And when boys are harm by girls nobody cares, because you aren't expected to hit girls back. Unlike how My traumatic experience was violent, it had nothing to do with rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:32 PM
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13 and 14 year old boys still have interactions lol. One most traumatic experience with the opposite sex was at six year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:16 PM
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There plenty of women in my life that were mirrors to what red-pill spoke about. The only reason I never went down the red-pill pipe, is not due to meeting good women. It's due to having common sense and being logical. Since I would already know billions of women are not all the same. Even if I never experienced good women. It's like believing that aliens could exist without providing evidence. But you still have a valid argument that it's statistically very likely for aliens to exist though. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:06 PM
3

The first one barley has any upvotes last time I checked. The second one is about how men are expected to abandon their friends due to relationships. The last aren't even about blaming women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 10:21 PM
3

No here is blaming women lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 09:20 PM
3

There is no misogyny in this thread. You are just not use to a sub that doesn't put women on a pedestal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 08:20 PM
-4

Maybe because women know they benefit from marriage lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:57 PM
2

🤣🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 01:42 PM
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This video sums it up well too. https://youtu.be/8SmpPBS_aHY?si=pBUOLUX-wmWN41B7 Albeit I don't agree with language though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 02:00 PM
4

Here before the "the only problems men have is not getting laid" comments. Even though the context is about dating. And women complain about dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:17 AM
0

Men shouldn't have to learn anything related to women. They can do whatever they want. Nobody talks about how women should learn social skills. Because they are the gender that isn't expected to approach or do romance. So give men the same energy please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:08 AM
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That's the unholy trinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 10:34 PM
2

The stigma is also related to masculinity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:02 PM
3

What about a white man who doesn't want to date white women who have been with black men in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:34 PM

And also your example about women not shaving is bad. A better example would be a progressive white man not wanting to date white women who have been with black men in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:26 PM
2

It's not all feminists. But it's enough feminists though. Sounds familiar? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:15 AM

Clown that how women act whenever they find out men are gay or bi. Again progessive women still use gay as insult on men they don't like. But you will do the mental gymnastics in the world to say this isn't true though. Being a ally doesn’t mean shit lol. My sisters are ally, and they still use the F slur whenevr men in family do something they don't consider "manly".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:55 AM

This still affects men outside relationships though. For example, women might be less likely to give gay men or bi men respect, because they don't see them as "real men". Whether that's women assuming all gay men want to be their gay bestie or assuming all misogynistic man is secretly gay It can show up in social spaces where their opinions are taken less seriously or treated as less authoritative W orkplaces too, where masculinity is tied to leadership, confidence, or competence Friend groups m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:49 AM

Who admits what? You are doing whataboutism here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:41 AM

You literally saying women can do no wrong with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:40 AM

Exposing women hypocrisy isn't a "gotcha" Men also build the idea that women should stay in the kitchen according to your logic. But yet a lot of women choose not to listen to that. And choose to conveniently only follow the ideas that benefit women. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:38 AM
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Calling out men for promoting toxic masculinity is already the default. While calling out women promoting toxic masculinity is considered misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:27 AM
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I made sure to be very specific in this post. By saying "a feminist woman".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 08:21 AM
2

The way women view bi men also affect how they interact with gay or bi men outside relationships. I.E. thinking all gay men wants to be their bestie, or thinking all misogynistic men are secretly gay. Women are less likely to respect gay men. Because they don't view them as ''real men". And im not a red-piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:19 AM
6

Thanks for these studies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 08:15 AM
2

A bunch of morons.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/04/26 02:13 AM
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Ah yes "the more empathic gender".
/r/EverydayMisandry07/04/26 02:08 AM
3

I agree. But don't loop red-pill with nihilism though. Matter of fact it's the opposite. It's the red-pill trying to take advantage of men who want meaning or purpose in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:46 AM

No I don't care. I need to open men eyes up to world that doesn't care about them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:23 AM
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This still affects men outside relationships though. For example, women might be less likely to give gay men or bi men respect, because they don't see them as "real men". Whether that's women assuming all gay men want to be their gay bestie or assuming all misogynistic man is secretly gay It can show up in social spaces where their opinions are taken less seriously or treated as less authoritative W orkplaces too, where masculinity is tied to leadership, confidence, or competence Friend groups m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:57 AM

Im black. And when it comes to white liberals that are hypocrites. I want them to be consistent. Either be this super progessive ally or a racist, not both. My point here. I rather people be honest than fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:41 AM
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Not all feminists are consistent. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 AM
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I want them to be more consistent, and not play both sides when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 AM
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I agree. That's why I said feminist identifying women in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:30 AM
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That stigma is coming from everybody. Even feminists. Im saying that most people thinks it gay for a man to have sex with a trans woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:21 AM
1

And also the post isn't about bi men experiences. It's about how women ideas about bi men can also lead to other ways they think about male gender roles in general. As for your question. Straight men will get stigma if they slept with a man once for experimentation, or even had thoughts about sleeping with other men. And then there are men who still considered themselves straight for dating passing trans women (pre op or post op).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:16 AM
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Straight men also deal with the stigma too. When it comes to curiosity and dating trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:11 AM
0

There was never a goalpost to move LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:59 PM

Even purple men are against the same post. I rarely see anyone inel or black pll posts. Because they usually get removed. The fact that I have to censor those words speaks volumes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:57 PM
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I mean women still pick and choose what aspects of the patriarchy they want to believe in though. The same women are still working jobs, having successful careers, being outspoken, voting, driving, and the list goes on. How come patriarchy didn't rubbed off on them in those aspects? Why is it conveniently always the aspects that harm men, and benefits women? 🤔 And also women helped men create the patriarchy. And on top of that the patriarchy is based on men and women being forced into roles beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:55 PM
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Yes, they aren't feminist enough. Just like how some Christians aren't Christian enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:47 PM
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Im not bi. My whole point is that some feminists still have traditional ideals about male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:41 PM
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Ironically enough women also think a man value is ruin for sleeping with other men too. 🤣. Slut shaming, is the result of demonizing male sexuality. That happens when you treat male sexuality like a disgusting disease. Women are viewed as tainted, and not pure anymore when they come in contact with evil male sexuality. And a lot of gay men also just view bi men as closeted gays too. I also know a few gay men, that say the same thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:39 PM

Nice try those posts are either downvoted or rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:32 PM

Let me guess you are probably the type of white knight to say a man playing victim anytime he brings up a valid criticism of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:31 PM
1

It means that not every feminist will be consistent with the philosophy. Similar to how not every Christian is consistent with the Bible. In other news people are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:25 PM
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The same way there are Christians who doesn't practice what the Bible preaches, and cherry-pick the Bible. There are also feminists who don't practice what Feminism preaches, and cherry-pick Feminism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:23 PM
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Like I said in another comment. There is a difference between the concept of Feminism and feminist identifying women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:22 PM
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There is a difference between Feminism and feminist identifying women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:20 PM

Most of the men are still pick me's sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:43 PM

Not true because those "blame women" post get downvotes, don't happen at all lol, or a bunch of people just saying that the male OP is blaming women when he is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:42 PM

Even that sub has a female bias ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:41 PM

You will numorus comments screaming "mAlE vIcTiMhOoD" on posts where the man isn't even trying to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:40 PM

Nice try those posts are either downvoted or rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:38 PM

Its more so the users are bias, rather than the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:38 PM

Gotta get messages across. I can even Google my posts sometimes. Hopefully I can have some type of affect on the future young boys will live in. Even if that affect is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:37 PM
3

Yep that's automatically death wish for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 04:54 PM
1

This is a old post. Might want to comment on a new post that is almost similar to my post here. If you want more replies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 12:02 AM
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Feminists will call that out. But wouldn't have same energy here. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:38 AM
8

Society rather more men be lonely, than MGTOW. Because it would go against the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:53 AM
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They don't really give a shit about lonely men. They just want to find a way to dunk on their opps, which are red-pillers. The outrage is selective. TRP gets framed as predatory, while billion-dollar industries built on male loneliness get a pass or even moral cover. Dating apps, porn, and parasocial platforms are literally engineered to keep men hooked, spending, and isolated. At least in principle, TRP claims to offer a way out of that cycle, even if some creators are grifters. The real incons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:51 AM
2

All the stories of women K babies.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/26 01:16 AM
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Proving his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:25 PM
4

It's homophobic to think you can change your sexuality, or associate misogyny with gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:24 PM
4

A lot of gay men think this is homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:22 PM
4

This is disingenuous as hell, and you know it. Those men are referring to having easier sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:21 PM
3

Thank you for saying this.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/04/26 11:16 PM
8

Maybe because they are blaming their choices on other people LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:46 PM
8

No I don't see OF models on my page. All I see is feminists making these arguments about OF models on my page.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:45 PM
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Bullshit men aren't forcing women to do OF. That's the narrative im challenging in this post. Giving women agency isn't breaking them or sign of struggling lmao. PPD women hate to hear that women have agency too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:25 PM
10

Mia Khalifa isn't a Goomba fallacy. That's one person lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:54 PM
1

I wonder why people were shitting on a man for not helping a woman in a viral gym video, when other women were around. It's almost like people expect men to be protectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:02 PM
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They do see it as an insult lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:54 PM
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Yeah random Redditor who knows nothing about what happened in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:49 PM
4

They call men gay because they are homophobic. I don't use the R slur. So you won't see me calling people the R slur, because I know they will get offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:26 PM
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So asexual men don't exist to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:25 PM
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Trying to switch the argument by looping me with homophobic men as a hive mind. Being an ally doesn't mean shit. Since allies can be performative. And still bigoted themselves. It's like saying I have black friends. Again I have lgbtq supporting sisters who still call men the F slur. I'm black. I know from first hand experience that liberal racism exist. So again allyship doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:24 PM
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No I take it has being homophobic towards gay men lol. The last time a woman call me gay. It didn't went well. She said "Just come out the closet honey." in a very smug tone. And I responded with "No I will stay in the closet, chilling here with your father.''. And she was speechless after that comeback LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:17 PM
5

Their reasons for thw preference can still be homophobic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:11 PM
10

Its still be using as insult though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:11 PM
9

Women have hard believing that a man can hate woman and still be 100 percent be straight. And its ironic. Because women are pretty much associating misogyny with being gay or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:10 PM
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Would also say that women can weaponize certain slurs against men too? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:08 PM
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Women are still responsible for playing these patriarchal systems lol. Men can do the same thing too. They can ragebait by telling women to get in the kitchen or make sandwiches. There is nothing wrong with being a trad wife. It’s just men know this will upset women. You see how I just flipped your argument really easily. And I love you ignore the part where most women don't like bi men. The women using gay as an insult probably have toxic opinions on bi men. What's next. You are going to tell m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:04 PM
11

OP you also have to remember. That's it's a combination of benevolent sexism and homophobia too. A man must be gay if he is not chivalrous to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:00 PM
17

Women are just as homophobic as men lol. This is the same demographic that gets ick of the thought of dating a bisexual man or a curious straight man. Because they think man is feminine/weak for having sex with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:58 PM
11

The ironic thing here, is that you can say the same thing about men who say "women are trash".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:55 PM
12

Again BS. I have seen women us that insult on men that are not homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:54 PM
15

This is bs. They are only using this insult to be homophobic. It's just homophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:50 PM
12

They can't even say they are trying to insult men with their own world view. Because popular female LGBTQ ally celebs like Nicki Minaj has use gay as an insult on progessive men before. At some point a lot of women do look down on men who are gay or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:49 PM
21

MGTOW commit the greatest sin. It went against the status quo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 01:05 AM
13

This is the perfect comment for this post. Well said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 11:20 PM
18

You are expected to make money, because you are a grown ass adult with responsibilities lol. Stop with the victim complex. Ironically it's men who get the blame for everything in society. Most men aren't harming women. And women still abuse men with similar DV rates too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 11:32 PM
11

Women also body shame and shut shame women at higher rates. But somehow it's still men's fault though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 11:29 PM
11

Exactly lol. Cakist is the perfect word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 03:32 PM
21

She is a Psychologist that give bad advice to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 08:31 AM
9

Bingo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 08:29 AM
3

It was a typo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 06:22 PM
3

Around the same Hollyweird people that visit certain islands too. How ironic.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/03/26 02:36 AM
1

Well said. You understand my point really well here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 02:24 AM
0

Not funny.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/03/26 12:58 AM
20

And even she is too much of a "pick me" for some feminists. 💀
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 11:46 PM
7

And some of them (NOT ALL) even like the weird porn too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 11:45 PM
1

You explain the hypocrisy really well here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 04:23 PM
2

Facts
/r/EverydayMisandry28/03/26 12:06 PM
21

Even outside the insecurities. Women think Bi men are less masculine due to being attracted to men.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/03/26 12:51 AM
7

It's not real due to the "women are wonderful" affect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 04:42 AM
16

This should be common sense. Because gay men aren't common enough to rape men as much as women.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/03/26 10:46 PM
1

Women also need protection from animals, earthquakes damage, and apparently gym equipment. Because a lot of women were shitting on a man for not helping a woman who git crushed by a weightlift recently. Despite there being other women in the video too. But only the man got shit though. I wonder why. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:37 PM
4

But yet women still expect men to be their protectors though. 🤔 I don't believe in men being protectors. And even then there are still countless examples of men protecting women. And the expectation for men to protect women still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:34 PM
3

That's not what I mean. I mean there aren't a lot of these white knights saying how much they want to kick Andrew Tate ass. There is a difference between law enforcement and being a keyboard warrior lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:31 PM
0

Sure it's seen as evil. My point is most of these white knights probably won't have the same "tough guy" tone if the male abuser was someone like Francis Ngannou.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 02:05 PM
1

What you mean here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 08:01 AM
3

This is exactly the blue pill mental gymnastics I'm talking about here.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:49 PM
4

And that's why this is toxic masculinity Mr. progressive blue piller lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:42 PM
1

Dude u said this was pussy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:40 PM
5

I think this toxic masculinity behavior dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:32 PM
6

Women are more likely to tell men to contain mentally ill patients when they get violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:49 PM
5

My point proven. Women are also more likely to get away with crimes. Because of your silly mindset here. Because nobody would assume a woman would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:29 PM
2

The argument is treating groups like monolith whenever it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:27 PM
4

Feminists associate any disgusting act with men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:35 PM
2

Men are also teachers, parents too, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:34 PM
3

So you agree that women have influence in society? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:33 PM
6

Because only women should get to be the prime victims right? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:32 PM
2

No one is forcing women to get pregnant either. Women are also dangerous too. Because female DV rates are closer to male DV rates. But male abuse is normalized in society though. That's a fact in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:31 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 02:28 PM
-3

Lmao im using a example. I never viewed men as a colletive here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:27 PM
2

True
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 02:04 PM
1

oh look the cop-out men created patriarchy tho argument. That doesn’t actually address anything I said, it just shifts blame to men as a whole instead of engaging with specific issues. And the “men don’t talk to each other” point literally proves mine. When men do try to build spaces or talk about their issues, they get mocked, dismissed, or told they’re attacking women just for bringing it up. Also bringing up periods and pregnancy isn’t even the same category. Biological differences aren’t the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 08:34 AM
5

Insecure men
/r/EverydayMisandry23/03/26 08:16 AM
0

Any man that don't fit into a rigid male gender roles that appeal to most women. For example, a single man who doesn't plan on getting married or being in a relationship is a good example of a untraditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:00 PM
2

Is he traditionally masculine? Yes. This is just traditional masculinity with a feminist gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:41 PM
8

A lot of progressive women still prefer traditionally masculine men that are taller, providers, and most definitely 100 percent heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:50 PM
8

But men are far more likely to date women who lower than though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:41 PM
16

A soft spoken man who is not obsessed with being traditionally masculine. My fellow progressive women might view me as a odd ball for having that preference though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:40 PM
5

Not surprised.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/03/26 07:59 PM

We stop putting pressure on men to be in relationships with women in first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:08 AM
4

Liberal women can also date conservative men too. Since a huge amount of them still hate 50/50 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:16 PM
6

Pokimane is demanding that women get free gifts by the virtue of just being women. Male streamers still have to be entertaining or do wild dumb shit to earn that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:16 PM
0

That's not even the comment I responded too lol I've started cryptically saying "anti-feminism always comes to collect" when I'm talking with feminist men. Because that's the reality, it does. Oh you're a hot AF feminist guy that gets all the benefits without the drawbacks? Those drawbacks will come collect their debts in time. It will come in abusive relationships, toxic divorces, social ostracism, etc. If they argue against it I just tell them my story. I was exactly like them. I put feminism …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:22 PM
3

My majority of my posts are never about dating lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:49 PM
10

Nope, it's usually PPD women calling every bad thing a woman does ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:56 PM
1

Trying to flip it here, I see. It's not about being mad with women. Its about feminists being hypocrites. I would've said nothing if Pokimane identify as some type of tradcon who like gifts from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:55 PM
0

What are you talking about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 11:15 AM
5

Yeah, I never mentioned anything about dating in this post lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:14 AM
10

This is rich coming from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:12 AM
5

Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:11 AM
1

It is enforcing a rigid standard on men to be obsessed with women, because it makes them "real men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:11 AM
0

Again this isn't something red-pillers would say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:10 AM
1

Well said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:08 AM
9

It's ironically toxic masculinity too. They think bi men are weak or less masculine for having sex with men.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/03/26 04:07 AM
4

No I'm saying that there are a lot of women (not all women) that think like her. I even show a study that supports this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:58 AM
11

She didn't get dragged for saying that lol. She got dragged forgetting that misogyny still existed back in those gamer days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:51 AM
13

This also includes chivalry too. And also I'm waiting for the "one woman don't represent all women" crowd to see this comment. Since you specially said this. Most women are thrilled when most men don’t flirt with them. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/BISrqlP36N
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:46 AM
15

Proving the point of my post. Treat like men = not flirting with them, because I don't flirt with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:27 AM
27

Using one woman as a example means she is the only woman that think like this. Redditor logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:00 AM
24

The average man also can't defend their rights either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:59 AM
10

True
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 06:44 PM
35

Bingo. Even feminists ironically use this phrase.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 09:58 AM
5

🤣🤣
/r/EverydayMisandry18/03/26 11:47 PM
1

you sound exactly like one of those guys who will blame women on international women's day for not caring about men while you don't speak up about anything on international males day You sound like one of those guys who is only a feminist whenever it's convenient. And like traditionalism when it's convenient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 08:03 AM
1

Because people have bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:22 PM
1

Not surprised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:19 PM
5

Facts. And also society beliefs are based on these people nonsense views. So that's important to talk about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 05:32 PM
13

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:37 AM
6

Perfectly said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:27 AM
1

It's all good. I see where you are coming from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 03:59 PM
6

Good point. I'm just saying we could've masked this with the sigma male aesthetic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 01:19 PM
48

I have gotten into plenty of arguments with men and women on the Left. And a weird and common thing they all say is that young boys would hate post genderism. And that young boys just need better role models who can teach them how to be a "real man". They always say the left can't help young boys, without having a universal standard for masculinity. And these men are portrayed as the perfect alternative to red-pillers on the left. But yet they still have rigid ideas of masculinity though. Which …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 12:56 PM
140

Typical "positive masculinity" that is just traditional masculinity with feminist gaze bs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 12:52 PM
5

You are a outliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:30 PM
8

Like a fish who isn't even aware they are swimming in water.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:28 PM
1

This comment is a perfect example of blue pillers wanting to live in a benevolent patriarchal society. You assum men are naturally supposed to protect and uplift women as part of a moral social order. You frame male behavior as a duty to safeguard women for the survival of society, which is essentially the idea of benevolent patriarchal norms, men lead and provide protection while women are valued as life-bearers (ironically saying women are just baby makers". Instead of rejecting gender hierarc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:59 PM
2

And women still shoot and stab people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:54 PM
0

Men are the ones more likely to risk their lives to help others. Especially when it comes to helping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:53 PM
1

That's a terrible mindset to have. Because in the opposite scenario you are ok with men being at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:51 PM
1

At the spence of seeing men as subhuman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:50 PM
1

it's 100 percent nurture, and social bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:49 PM
3

Blue pillers do the same thing. Only focus on success stories of unattractive men who end up with hot wives by having "personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:48 PM
2

Even if a man had the intentions of looking at your ass. They still wouldn't do that. Because that look too obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:45 PM
2

Wtf, women don't have muscle issues. Even smaller men are weaker than bigger men. But society doesn't coddle smaller men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:43 PM
5

Still doesn't change the fact that all lot of assholes are successful with women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:42 PM
12

It's the intent that makes it sexist. If she thinks im some type of dumb ass who doesn't know how too cook or use a washing machine. Then she is being a benevolent sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:41 PM
7

The type of "all lives matter" arguments you guys have when it comes to any topic about benevolent sexism favoring women. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:39 PM
0

This is the perfect analogy for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:38 PM
3

It's benevolent sexism if men only give those basic manners to women, and not other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:37 PM
9

Manners have nothing to do with sex lol. It's like a red-piller complaining about how women only want to have sex with men they find attractive. So this isn't the gotcha you think it is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:35 PM
3

You were making it seem like manners weren't a good example of benevolent sexism. When it's the biggest feature of benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:33 PM
2

Nece guys never finish at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:50 PM
1

To put it simply. If men aren't giving other men those good manners. And they only give women those good manners. Then it's benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:49 PM
11

Most of this thread isn't saying this isn't true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:47 PM
16

It is sexism. Stop the mental gymnastics here. The second the man make these things exclusive to women and he doesn't treat other men the same way, it's sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:46 PM
10

I have made numerous post about feminist cakism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:44 PM
5

Some women literally hate men as people. And some feminists also ironically hate men when men aren't upholding the system whenever it's convenient. I.E. cakism Feminism.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/03/26 11:58 PM
42

Some dark times for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 10:31 AM

With girlfriends/wives who are also fat, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:33 AM

Women are always saying they don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:32 AM

They have no point. They just want to maintain the "women are wonderful" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:31 AM
3

So admit that white knighting is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:44 AM
2

I remember the elevator story. I’m not going to say every position of hers is wrong. Neither is every position of Nick Fuentes, but I don’t watch either of their “content” if I can help it. Great comparison.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 10:32 PM
6

Because LWM removed the post.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 02:33 PM
5

It was removed.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 02:32 PM
14

When men feel guilty about being attracted to women. Usually it's about how society views male sexuality as something dangerous and scary. And that affects a man attraction to women. So ironically it's the same thing. Because the man isn't even demonizing women here. He is still demonizing men.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 12:21 PM
22

Women biggest fear with dates is the man going 50/50.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 09:39 AM
1

Good reply. That's a perfect example here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 02:57 AM
4

The idea of Feminism is fine. It's just that a bunch of idiot individuals execute this idea in the most terrible ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/26 04:20 PM
5

Beautifully said OP.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/26 04:19 PM
1

I don't watch any manosphere content. Most red-pillers aren't smart enough to make my arguments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:05 PM
7

Im trying to mock the "women aren't monolith" crowd here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:54 AM
9

"It's two different men"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:41 AM
17

yes men are more violent and abusive to there partners and other men because we push men into active roles such as protectors, providers and leaders, etc. If men weren't put into these positions maybe we would see a lot less of that. The ironic part here. Is that this argument is more valid than their "men made women kill babies" argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/26 02:34 PM
1

Good perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:55 PM
7

How about instead we normalize all men trying to romanticize women by gifting women cash and prizes and then if the woman is interested she could choose to grace you with her attention on a date the man treats her to. That’s a much better plan! This is ironically manipulation too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:42 AM
7

No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:41 AM
2

This is disturbing to read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/26 09:48 PM
1

And you still replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:46 PM
4

Humans being messy is the problem here. We already have rules for traffic lights. Why not apply structured logic to other messy situations with gender? Traffic lights control chaos with simple rules: red means stop, green means go. No matter how impatient humans get, following them prevents accidents and gridlock. Elevator etiquette: People crowd doors, press all buttonsset rules for orderly boarding and exiting. Grocery store lines: Impose clear lane priorities and merging rules, rather than le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:03 PM
4

Again im talking about the same individual women here. Even the individual woman in this video contradicted herself in this video. I already pointed this out in the video. She is not two different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:55 PM
2

Again you are missing the point. The argument isn’t about women being sexual or having preferences for partners. It’s about the paradoxical relationship with the male gaze and how mixed signals are communicated. Whether Jill sleeps around or seeks a wealthy husband doesn’t negate the structural ambiguity men face. The issue is societal expectation versus personal behavior, not individual hypocrisy. The point is clarity in norms, not judging personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:28 PM
3

I also get annoyed at how y’all throw out the term “gaslighting” 🤦🏽‍♀️ no one is gaslighting y’all - please stop thinking it’s that serious, or that all women have decided to gaslight men that we don’t even know or care about. Just because things seem contradictory to you does not mean you’re being gaslit. They gaslight because they feel the need to maintain an image of women being flawless and morally superior. When male behavior doesn’t match their selective expectations, it’s framed as a prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:08 PM
3

You miss the whole point here. You ignore the cycle of shit. Especially number 1 and number 3. Again women being sexual isn't the issue here. I already mentioned this in the post. It's women paradoxical relationship with the male gaze, that's the problem. No one said past consent equals permanent consent. You’re arguing against a position that wasn’t made. The discussion is about mixed public norms, not defending harassment. Bringing up stalking and rape is an escalation that sidesteps the actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:52 PM
3

Stop with the semantics bs. You’re shifting from “don’t sexualize women” to “just look, everyone does it,” which is exactly the muddy line being discussed. The whole point is that “looking,” “checking out,” and “staring” get defined differently depending on how attractive the man is after the fact. If the boundary is obvious, you wouldn’t need to keep redefining it mid-argument. Saying “everyone looks” doesn’t resolve where the line is; it just handwaves the ambiguity. That’s the norm confusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:35 PM
3

Brother your arguments are 💩. You say men like me must share the same traits without even explaining what those traits are, because you live in this made up fantasy world where you like going off vibes. You keep asserting a hidden variable but never operationalize it. That’s not analysis. What you are doing here is post-hoc labeling. “Men like you” isn’t a category, it’s a placeholder for an argument you haven’t built. If you can’t define the traits, you can’t claim causation. You’re also doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:29 PM
1

So you don't know the difference between having the intentions to view women sexually vs not doing that. I hate how you guys love muddying the waters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:22 PM
1

At least i will only watch this 13 min vid once year.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:20 PM
1

Other men also share the same cycle of shit experience too. But you won't and you'll just keep blaming WoMeNz because in the short term, that's just easier. I Ah yes because women are perfect angles who can do no wrong in your silly universe. Despite making up 51 percent of the population. And ironically it's usually women who think I'm gay or odd for not engaging in behavior they would usually call creepy. Introspection and accountability are the only way you are ever going to figure out why yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:46 PM
0

So you are trying analyze how to ogle women. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:17 PM
1

WHAT?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 12:10 PM
-2

The problem is most aren't honest about this, and they gaslight men into these situations. By telling men they don't care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:08 PM
2

Except that this is not one woman doing this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:06 PM
4

This is not a personal issue, this is a socialtal issue. You’re reducing a norm inconsistency to individual pathology, which is analytically lazy. When outcomes vary by attractiveness, that is a structural variable problem, not merely “some men behave badly.” Pointing to your personal success is a textbook survivorship bias and proves nothing about the rule set others navigate. You claim “men who don’t have this problem must be doing something right,” which ignores selection effects. Your argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:04 PM
-2

Either way your eyes are still on a woman ass. And you have the intentions of seeing her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 11:57 AM
27

Great chart that explains a lot. And even then men still have to earn their way to top by performing rigid gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 12:09 PM

Game isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:04 AM

Women just have to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:00 AM

We live in a society where we have to pretend like this common sense don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:59 AM

The more society understand this, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:59 AM
2

Is it just that easy to hate men nowadays? Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 09:15 AM
12

Because women say women only care about personality, not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:29 AM
33

ind Abdulaziz Al-Owais Just lost her job as a human rights advocate who focused on gender equality Let that sink in. But I bet you Ana Psychology won't talk about this though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 04:14 PM
11

The "not all men" is a terrible argument to them. But when it's convenient though. Feminists use this argument for attractive men not approaching women or interacting with women in the workplace.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/02/26 12:59 PM
1

THIS
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 08:56 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic starts to get bad for them when it comes to their cakism. Since that means less men approaching women. So they start to come up with fake solutions for the MLE. By telling men they should just do "positive masculinity" aka traditional masculinity. My point here is that the MLE is only considered an issue when it's affects female privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 08:55 PM
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And also the many men online who were called incels, nazis, and conspiracy theoriest for decades by the left, whenever they talked about some elite people being pedos. Now all of a sudden men are to blame. Meanwhile a woman like Bondi is the one doing all defenses for these bad people. Oh wait she is being controlled by men. So it's still men fault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 06:01 PM
17

Red-pillers are like conspiracy theorists. And some conspiracy theories have truth in them. You already see where I'm going here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:58 PM
5

Hopefully this link can found.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:56 PM
21

The media doesn't care about young boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:54 PM
23

I made a post about Ana Psychology trying to paint the female pedos as pick me's who were control by evil men. Basically saying that those women's actions were men faults.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:53 PM
8

It's interesting how women are the only demographic that can do no wrong on the left. For example, I saw a black leftist talking about the black actor from Rush Hour going to island. The black leftist said that black men just want to be the oppressors. Showing the "black straight men are the white people of the black community" article. But in the context of a woman going to an island. All of a sudden left don't have this reversed oppressor now. Again women are the demographic that could do no w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/26 06:37 PM
1

Ah yes Reddit the sub that thinks cognitive dissonance is impossible for women to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:21 PM
1

I loath rigid gender roles being enforced on Men, and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:33 PM
1

Going to jail is nothing to downplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:11 PM
6

who tf is she A progressive woman who is just as popular as Pearl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:06 PM
7

You are so disingenuous. My whole point was about Ana, not Pearl lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:01 PM
3

Wait, when did he ever say that was a bad thing, though? Are you confusing two different types of men here? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:58 PM
1

Usually, I use this argument, but I just switch the roles, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:56 PM
1

Rules for thee, not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:52 PM
3

Don't let her see MMA lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:48 PM
3

Wait, that actually happening? So you are proving his point about women getting smashed on the down low to be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:47 PM
5

Im not assuming because I'm not stupid, lol. I can tell the difference between Pearl Davis and Ana from the Young Turks. And Ana says she is attracted to traditionally masculine men during a topic about men approaching women less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:46 PM
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Yep, I don't care if more people become single. The solution shouldn't be to enforce rigid gender roles on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:40 PM
1

That's you downplaying men's fear. You keep making it about rejection. When it's about men protecting their image. The worst she can say is no is a silly argument to use in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:38 PM
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What hell are you talking about here. There is no cognitive dissonance here. This gotcha doesn't even work. Because I don't even understand the point you are making here. A feminist idea of positive masculinity can also extend outside relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:36 PM
1

Women can’t opt out of being approached, they just have to manage it. But yet this still the same demographic that still expects men they like to approach them. Despite how "scary it is". And also most men don't approach women nowadays. So women can't use this fear to demonize men now. Hence why I think this topic is hard for a lot of women. Because men approaching less means they can't wepqonzie their victim complex anymore. This is the second reason after "Chad isn't approaching me anymore."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:34 PM
1

Again you are downplaying men fear of approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:05 PM
2

False allegations also put men in prison too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:04 PM
1

You can’t have it both ways. Either women are trapped by patriarchy, or they’re selectively powerful enough to ignore it. If women can ignore the parts that hurt them, they can also reject the parts that define leadership as “assertive male behaviour.” You’re treating patriarchy like a puppet master when it suits your point and irrelevant when it doesn’t. What part of hypocrisy do you don't understand? Lmao. Women are just choosing the parts of patriarchy that are convenient for them. It's calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:33 PM
2

"YoU aRe aUtIsTiC" "mUh bOdY lAnGuAgE"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:57 AM
2

Or men don't approach at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:54 AM
1

Men can go to jail. Stop downplaying the danger for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:53 AM
5

"It's two different men" right? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:53 AM
2

MAGA men*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:51 AM
1

Would any of those have been better than these? Because these were pretty weak You still didn't explain how my arguments are weak. By whom? Who expects men do be that way and who thinks those are markers of competence? Not women. The same patriarchy that tells women to be submissive and not work. But yet women still ignore that. And only conveniently listen to the parts that benefit them and harms men Women are cautious around all men who are strangers to them. Stranger is the key here, not size…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:47 AM
3

So let me make this more simple for the people who don't know what a Goomba fallacy is.There are 3 women.Sally, Cindy, and Sara.Sally: I don't like it when men approach me, it makes me feel uncomfortable. Cindy: I love it when men approach me, because it makes me feel beautiful.Sara: Men should stop approaching women, it creepy. But also why aren't men approaching women anymore though.You see, Cindy and Sally are consistent. While Sara isn't. Albeit all 3 women usually act like they speak for al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:40 AM
1

I’m not going to feed into whatever racism boner you’ve got going on. Im a black man. I was just using an example. The fact that you call this racism. Proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:05 AM
5

That's sounds exactly like what Ana did with the Epstein files. But question here. Is the lefty dude the streamer Destiny?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 03:04 AM
3

I already addressed this in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:02 AM
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Stop coercing women to have sex with more men until YOU are satisfied. They should do what they want. Women are huge supporters of the lgbtq+ research showing gay men feel more comfortable and close with women than hetero men. Fake allyship and virtue signaling isn't helping gay men. Plenty of gay men talk about homophobia from progressive women. Women can like masculine men who that comes natural to without forcing other men to share the same physicality or traits. Keep that same energy for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:34 AM
3

Glad you find this sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 02:26 AM
1

So, by that logic feminists wanting traditional masculinity in their relationships doesn't make sense either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:21 AM
2

So you are exposing yourself here. Double standards in relationship preferences are ok when women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:17 AM
10

And women tend to encourage violence being done to men they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:01 AM
1

A broken record that is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:50 PM
1

You're literally trying to get favorable approval of someone judging your efforts lol Huh? Courting a woman isn't leading. It is leading. Men leading in relationships reflects long-standing social norms where men are expected to provide direction, protection, and stability. Historically, leadership was tied to men’s roles as providers and decision-makers. Those expectations carried over into dating and relationships as default behavior. Even today, many people unconsciously equate masculinity wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:42 PM
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This one is hilarious because even in your own made up scenario what you said doesn't make sense lol It makes sense because women want to date men who lead. While complaining about women not leading society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:23 PM
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Rules for thee, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:19 PM
2

So you would be ok with a male feminist wanting a trad wife? Or maga men wanting liberal women. ,🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:16 PM
1

A whole university of women contradicting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:14 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/E33uBWEflQQ?si=iakDeuPOb6lABmwh Cognitive dissonance here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:12 PM
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They do, that's why you guys are here single Then how do women end up abusive relationships than? And also, it's usually women thinking im gay ot odd for not wanting to flirt with them. So your shaming tactic won't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:46 PM
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I see individual progressive women contradict themselves every day. Hence, why make post like this. https://youtube.com/shorts/E33uBWEflQQ?si=8fp4K4BjGo0ac5LS
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:43 PM
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No, assume all women are progressive when they label themselves progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:40 PM
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And? So? By your illogical and irrational argument, all straight men must be homophobic if they don't date gay men. You see how dumb that is right? I believe the LGBTQ community deserves equal rights to all others. That means they get to decide who they want to marry or have a job or have employment and I have no issue with transpeople either. And guess what, I deserve the same right to date and marry who I choose. I won't force gay men into lavender marriages or tell them they must date a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:38 PM
3

But still have no rebuttal to these "poor arguments" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:24 PM
1

So, it's the same logic with body count right? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:23 PM
-1

What men when it comes to women body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:44 PM
3

It's still the same concept though. Expecting men to lead lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:41 PM
1

I already mentioned how people are far more likely to point out cognitive dissonance in men in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:41 PM
12

Bro progessive women also have the ick for bi men. Heck, even bi women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:39 PM
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That's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:13 PM
2

Body language is just pseudoscience bs. Men aren't mind readers. Howcome women can't use the same body language when it comes to telling the difference between bad men and good men? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:11 PM
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And the ironic thing is. She is still married to a man. 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:44 PM
15

🌟 Misandry 🌟
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:44 PM
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They would freaked out even more if we said Epstein was abused by his mom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:42 PM
3

Same thing with using gay as an insult on men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:41 PM
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She thinks women have no agency.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 02:58 PM
3

Yep, I definitely see the irony here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:33 PM
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Yes, in Ana, "men are always the bad guys" world view.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 11:58 AM
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Again, in her mind, those women are just victims who were forced by men to do evil shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 11:41 AM
5

Yeah, they used the term autistic a lot. As way to shame men for not being mind-readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:37 AM
2

Surely if men aren't mind readers either and they don't know what the reaction is they simply shouldn't approach? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:01 AM
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And just personally, even if there were subsection of women who appreciated cold approaches and I could somehow identify them before time, I'm not going to approach them because I'm not a fucking circus animal performing his gender role for the sake of someone ego. It's demeaning, and it looks desperate. This is something very important to preach to most men. Honestly, a lot of the 'women complain about not being approached' stuff seems to be coming out the manosphere. It's being overstated to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:28 AM
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Choosing to limit your own opportunities only means that others will take them. I'm find with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:03 AM
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And the best way to avoid this mess is to simply not bother people in public. There's other avenues, and even if they aren't, sticking to principle won't kill you. Where in this post do I approve of cold approaching? 🤔 Since you are under the impression, I want to bother people in public or defend men who bother people in public. JFC, have you considered writing a dissertation on something that matters more than this? Find demonizing men as grapists and enforcing rigid gender roles onto men real…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:02 AM

Nice try. I don't cold approach women. You can clearly see the title is about finding solutions to stop men from cold approaching women. But yiu ignore that because it's convenient. And you are the one being obtuse here. So let me make this more simple for the people who don't know what a Goomba fallacy is.There are 3 women. Sally, Cindy, and Sara. Sally: I don't like it when men approach me, it makes me feel uncomfortable.Cindy: I love it when men approach me, because it makes me feel beautiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:23 AM
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Oh, trust me, I know this, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:01 AM
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I'm glad to see someone popular using that argument.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/02/26 04:56 AM
4

This what most women considered sassy and DL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:50 AM
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Either way, men aren't mind readers. They don't know the type of women you are. Similar to how women say they aren't mind readers who know which men are dangerous or harmless. So they assume all men are potential threats. Therefore, a man can assume all women don't like being approached. Because again, he is not a mind reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:49 AM

It's not my fault you can't read long posts that make you look silly whenever you bring up points that were already addressed in the long post. That explanation only works if those groups don’t constantly claim to speak for “women” as a whole. Once broad statements and prescriptions get made, the distinction collapses. If it’s truly separate groups, then men can’t be blamed for responding to the loudest narrative. You don’t get individual nuance and collective moral pressure at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:34 AM
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I forgot to mention this point in the post. Men aren't mind readers. You are right. It's no different from women not knowing who is a good guy or bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:28 AM

Sounds like you choose not to understand common sense. I’m pointing out a contradiction, not rambling: either fear is statistically justified or men are being made paranoid, pick one. You can’t argue “assume all men are threats” and mock men for acting cautiously. That’s cognitive dissonance, not complexity. If you disagree, address the argument instead of dismissing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:25 AM
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And before you scream "gOoMbA fAlLacY" and use that term wrongly. Note that women can't universally share a fear of men due to statistics and history. While also, this being some individual preference, being exaggerated by the evil red-pill manosphere to make men paranoid. So which is it? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:22 AM
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Ironically, Bell Hooks is considered a pick me by other feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:54 AM
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I'm honestly shocked there is a female on male abusive relationship in a popular show.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 12:47 AM
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So they are proving the "women are attracted to bad men" myth here. 🤔
/r/EverydayMisandry08/02/26 09:41 PM
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No, you should be jealous, lol. Because AI was still able to understand this post better than you. In the same thread where other people were also able to understand my post. And that was before all the edit fixes, lol. And you give salt first. I'm just showing you the same energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:27 PM
1

Again, im typing on an android. And I already fixed all the typos. You can also know how to read too. Again, AI was still smarter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:22 PM
2

You are basically saying men are gay wanting to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:58 PM
-1

Women also want to do nothing and expect the most from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:23 PM
7

Homophobia and toxic masculinity in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:57 PM
3

Mgtow isn't red-pill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:54 PM
4

Ah yes the typical ironic toxic masculinity and virgin shaming from blue pillers. I have follow some MGTOW ideas. And I also get compliments from women about my looks, especially my eyebrows. But I don't care though. Because I unlike you don't tied my worth to female validation. And many young boys think this way. And fyi. Maybe next time don't treat women like objects or prizes for men to get. Again you blue pillers are always ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:53 PM
5

It's definitely a shaming tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:50 PM
7

Feminists think all non-feminist men are in the same category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:49 PM
3

It did. Because many young boys are practicing the philosophy of MGTOW without even knowing. I know that makes you sick lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:48 PM
1

I bet you wouldn't say the same thing about the 4B movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:46 PM
1

Nope. Men want less pressure to be providers, and protectors. Good way to downplay men issues here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:42 PM
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At least the AI is more smarter than you. And im typing on a Android phone by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:40 PM
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No, men are treated as the collective because women say they see "men" (nameless, faceless, in the aggregate) as threats. The way past that is to get to know her, build rapport, and show that you aren't a threat. No, F that shit men shouldn't have to prove their humanity to entitled people. Again if women view all men as threats. Then they should be ok with men not interacting with them. Can men become pregnant? A: Can all women get pregnant? B: Being pregnant is a choice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:03 PM
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Okay, so then you need to talk to women as individuals and stop with this one size fits all, binary thinking BS. Again when it comes to women fear of men being these violent rapists. Women are conveniently not treated as individuals in this context. They are treated as collective. So you can't have it both ways. The sexes are different, they're always going to have differences because biology. Men will always be physically stronger in the aggregate, and thus more adaptive workers particularly wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:50 PM
0

My point it's foolish to say that men never helped women at all. When women are considered a protected class in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:39 PM
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Women don't want to be 0% sexualized or 100% sexualized. They probably want to be about 30-40% sexualized. And if there's mutual attraction, they probably want to be about 70-80% sexualized by those men. These percentages are just designed to summarize things in the aggregate, individuals will all have different preferences that may or may not fall outside of the ranges I gave, but they serve as a general guideline. Again men aren't fucking mind readers who magically know how much women want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:32 PM
2

This is all great. But you are apart of the minority here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:52 AM
0

But yet men must still all the labor for you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:51 AM
6

Not having to read a post or a engage with a post is something you clearly haven't figured out yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:49 AM
2

It's mostly a Sweden thing. https://youtube.com/shorts/uq13CXb5nG8?si=2rypKKF9m0VMJn-E
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:38 AM
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Again, you are a perfect example of my post, you white knight. Women and men have been asking you what you are going to do other than whine and complain. Spreading awareness about these issues is already something. People like you just want to silence, saying I'm "whining and complaining. For a man upset with women, you sure have lots of negative things to say about women. I didn't say anything negative about women in this post. As a matter of fact, I talked about how your fellow allies ironical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:04 AM
2

You are ironically proving my point here. You just want to whine and complain. Toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:45 AM
3

I read that whole article. And still came to the conclusion that Jessica is z hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:41 AM
0

This is ironic because usually, men always do the heavy lifting to make society comfortable for women. Women are treated like children in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:39 AM
1

Tell this to the feminists who say that "feminism is for men" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:37 AM
-4

Men are the ones to give women rights and also die for those rights every day. And in return all men ask is for women to admit that misandry exists and men can have issues too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:36 AM
-8

Perhaps making generalizations about billions of people isn't the best path to success. What path? Im not going on any path.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:11 AM
4

I just wish feminism realized how soul crushing providership norms are on men and factored that in before going as far as it has. They will never acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:43 AM
-4

My kingdom for a post that talks about many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:36 AM
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It's funny they always ignore the role she played.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/26 10:22 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/26 09:28 AM
7

Men being seen as protectors also known as avatars of violence has always been insulting to me This is something both conservatives and feminists agree on. Matter of fact use the exact words with a different framing on a Jubilee middle ground video. And you will see both sides come sit down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 11:53 AM
4

You have no rebuttal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:54 PM
2

Yes op society hates it when a man isn't hypersexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:53 PM
-1

Men can get random pussy pics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:52 PM
9

Straight women say male body parts look gross all the time. And nobody ever questioned their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:51 PM
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Me personally, I can't even begin to feel sexual attraction towards someone until I know them a little. I have to make sure we vibe first. I'm the same way too. And I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:50 PM
4

Women say penises look gross all the time. And nobody ever questioned their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:48 PM
7

Same for women that don't like penises? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:48 PM
1

You are being obtuse here. He says the average straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:47 PM
1

I understand the point you was making. It's all good.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/01/26 05:42 PM
1

Sorry I know that's going off topic but I just felt like venting. It's not off-topic. It’s actually on-topic. It's a great example. Should've brought this up too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 12:19 PM
45

What happened to being 4B? 🤣🤣
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 11:02 PM
2

Misandry does kill. Since a lot of racism and homophobia is rooted in Misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 08:16 PM
16

Male feminists are the biggest promoters of toxic masculinity when it comes to men.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 08:15 PM
31

The "women are wonderful affect".
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 08:11 PM
28

Can't take these clowns seriously.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 07:49 PM
11

I think a lot of people have a crush on Andrew Tate and wish he was "civilized" but that's neither here nor there. That's true 🤣. A feminist idea of "positive masculinity" is just a version of Andrew Tate that isn't a hostile sexist. That's it. They are still the same tall, successful, assertive, dominant, muscular, and benevolent sexist man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 07:31 PM
3

I have heard of some real Metal stories of violence. But those stories are rare, though. Compared to Rap having a whole sub genre based on true stories of violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 04:41 PM
3

Are the lyrics describing real-life violence? I ask because those Rap lyrics were actually true stories.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 04:33 PM
2

Yes they do. This is super common.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 01:10 PM
3

The same woman that would probably get buthurt if a man didn't interact with her.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/26 01:06 PM

https://uwspace.uwaterloo.ca/items/205ad682-63e6-484a-825c-7b11a7b2ba14
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:08 AM

Because misogyny just boils down to anything a woman doesn't like when a man do it. For example, ironically thinking men are misogynistic for treating women like equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:04 AM
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I wonder how those same women feel about bisexual men though. 🤔
/r/EverydayMisandry24/01/26 01:02 AM
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This is a really smart comment. Im always glad that I found this sub. Because people like you always say the same thing I say. But explain way better than I ever could.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 12:47 PM
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I agree. The 50/50 thing just feminist cakism.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/26 06:59 PM
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But thing is, Drill rap is a very specific thing. The genre is built dissing dead kids. So it's literally glorifying violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 06:37 PM
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But when men become stay at home dads, they are called bums.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 02:45 PM
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Ironically enough, a lot of "feminists" are anti feminist themselves. Because they think men are misogynistic for treating women like equals. While Ironically thinking benevolent sexism is pro women. Again "feminists" are far more likely to be anti Feminism than us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 02:45 PM
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I find your perspective interesting too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 02:40 PM
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I can fix him" mentality for me it seems more like a cope and also a effect of women-are-wonderful as wanting to change somebody to the better is seen as selfless while just admitting that you like the dominant language etc. isnt. Thank you for saying this. This was something I always said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 02:37 PM
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Naw, I actually watch Aba and Preach (but not the twins though lol).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 02:36 PM
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Yes, ICE is an example of this, too. I even made a post about this, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 10:32 AM
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Exactly, anything is only considered bad when it affects women in society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 10:30 AM
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accusing me of having smaller male genitalia and such. Their favorite insult.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 09:18 AM
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Ironically feminists are the biggest propaganda tool that be use against feminism. The hypocrisy and the double standards like the small D makes it super easy for red-pill or Manosphere types to take advantage of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 11:15 PM
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And they will call you an incel for pointing this out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 10:59 PM
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Even with a knife, it's still not a guarantee a man would be taken seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 10:57 PM
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Misandrist justice system.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 10:56 PM
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I agree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 06:38 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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