~ archived since 2018 ~
~ archived since 2018 ~
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
|---|---|---|---|
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA lot of bisexual women I know have different requirements for women and men. A lot of them want more femimine women, but don't want feminine men. the irony is that if you are a short more feminine man you'd probably have more luck transitioning to a female with bisexual women than just being a man. Also, tastes in women seem way more varied in bisexual/lesbian women vs men you can be butch look, even overweight, skinny, traditional feminine, shaved head, the whole gamut. but for a man targeted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 03:45 PM |
| 2 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?I don't agree. women seem to need the "whole package". ugly face + good body = still unnattractive to alot of women most women really only care about your body as a multiplier if she already finds your face attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 08:02 PM |
| 2 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?there are certain classically handsome men that most women find attractive. those are the top 1-5%. for everyone else, the type varies significantly. there are also classicaly ugly men that most women finf unnattractive too. I'm saying that in general there is more variation, not that all men are going to be attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 08:01 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?I thought it's interesting that you mentioned lack of confidence being a barrier to authenticity. If you are an anxious person that doesn't make you inauthentic it's literally just who you are. It would be less authentic and more red pilled to put on a fake confident persona when that's not your true personality. I don't consider anxiety a personality trait that relates to being ones authentic self.......just as I don't believe depression to be a personality trait either. it influences your pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:58 PM |
| 2 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?Precisely. What if you are into cardio vs weight lifting? what if you'd rather focus on traveling and experiencing things versus commanding a high salary? what if you prefer to dress modestly? obviously this is a silly example - but people have recommneded I get a "more on top haircut with a sick fade" since "girls seem to love it" fuck that, I'm not going to the barber once every 2-3 weeks to spend 40 bucks and preen my haira specific way just to attract women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:55 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?thinking about it, I actually agree with this approach, but I think those aree things that are just given to do for yourself anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:52 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?exactly - but to the posters below points, it's incredibly hard for some men to even find that one. I never said it was easy, just that it probably improves your odds to focus on being authentic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:51 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?This is an intersting take. I think that improving the "pillars" (careers, looks, confidence) are just given and should be things just do, and are a moot point since..it would just improve your chances whether going after niche wome or broad women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:51 PM |
| 0 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?women are definetely more selective than men, but their invidiual tastes very more than men. this is exactly my point - find the women that are into (your best version of yourself). I never said anything about women NOT finding the majority of men unnattractive - that is proven by the facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:49 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?yeah - I agree and mention this (the top 1% of men in my post). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 07:44 PM |
| 1 | As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts?agreed - but I feel like so many are being brainwashed into doing x,y,z and that doing these things will get you more women - even if they say they are doing it for themselves The checklist items you do anyways, regardless of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 12:09 AM |
| 8 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.right? yet one the top advice I keep hearing is 'never EVER ask her first". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:01 PM |
| 20 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.they have good points, but their advice is given in absolutes - THAT is the issue I have. it turns men with no experience into automatons. "if women do this, then I do that". I've done multiple things that are "against all manosphere laws" that did NOT result in the women losing attraction, and in fact increased her attraction. some examples include: texting more than she does (manosphere people will say this is a death sentance) asking a girl to be my girlfriend (manosphere says you MUST wait f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 03:02 PM |
| 6 | Women’s dating preferences are creating a system of vast inequality in datingAlong the lines of what you said I would see more value having studies and focus put more on this group rather than one that takes into account established relationships which are largely irrelevant because those times have come and gone already yes - there is too much confounding of variables such as "I met my high school sweetheart in bodunk iowa when I was 16" I'll take an honest stab at the last question men: a women who is not fat, nice, doesn't have relationship baggage that interferes wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 01:04 PM |
| 39 | Women’s dating preferences are creating a system of vast inequality in datingI think the stats need to be normalized to more of the reddit audience - modern liberal cities and non-religous demographic. I bet that the stat is much higher because it takes into account: couples who met in rural areas (tend to meet in high school, early college, through friends, religion) couples who met in high school/college in general - a decently high percentage of men will truly have a situation where a girl just "falls in their lap" due do luck and proximity over time - where the "6,6,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 12:01 AM |
| 20 | Fellas, you’re not single because you are unattractive, short, broke, play video games, watch anime, or other generic guy shit your single because you’re boringthis posts made me throw up in anger. generally, most women want a man who is not boring who is ALSO physically attractive. cut it out with the just-world BS, you have no idea what you are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 01:05 PM |
| 6 | Fellas, you’re not single because you are unattractive, short, broke, play video games, watch anime, or other generic guy shit your single because you’re boringI bet you've also met a ton of men who were able to connect with you, great conversationalists, good hobbies, but were not physically attractive enough so it didn't mean jack shit. and that's the part OP is missing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 01:03 PM |
| 1 | When self-proclaimed “nice guys” say that they are “good guys,” what “good” traits are they talking about?You are over-complicating all of this: all raw attraction/arousal cares about are physical and personality traits that overlap with arousal/attraction atraits. guy is physically hot but also nice? he's attractive/arousing guy is physically hot but kind of a jerk? he's still attractive/arousing guy is charismatic but also nice? he's attractive/arousing guy is charismatic, but also a jerk? he's still attractive/arousing Guy is nice, but unnattractive and not charismastic? he's probably not attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/24 11:05 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI'd say the occurance is definetely overestimated, but "sex just happened" (meaning outside a normal date scenario) definetely occurs between people who were complete strangers. It's only happened few times to me - but the last time It happened I went going to a bar solo to grabbing an uber with a girl I had just meant that night within about 2.5 hours, without the influence of drunkness/highness. This may seem lilke a mysterdy, and I did not do anything special - it was right place right time. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:04 PM |
| -1 | Why do you care what men masturbate to?oh yeah, keep it going, I'm almost finishing, keep talking dirty to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:03 PM |
| 4 | Why do you care what men masturbate to?I just jacked off to your comment, how does that make you feel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 08:29 PM |
| 22 | So much of dating is right time/right place - and no, this doesn’t exactly mean what you think this isAs a man you CANNOT take a passive approach to dating and meeting women, period. "just join hobbies bro" "just touch grass bro" "don't do it just for meeting women, join hobbies/groups/volunteer you actually want to join, not to meet women" Fuck that. this is how you end up with you dick in your hand at 2am because you love heavy metal and joined a heavy metal meetup group that is 99% guys while some other guy volunteered at an animal shelter near a college campus where it's 80% single women hig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 08:17 PM |
| 10 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themSo, basically “average man” = top 10% man. Which is not….average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:21 PM |
| – | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThis assertion has been posted numerous times in the past few year, goes in circles, and men and women never seem to come to an agreement. So I'll sum it up for all of you: Most women who act like what OP says UNDERSTAND they are being hypocritical, but they simply don't give a shit. Women are not that dense that they don't logically understand these inconsistencies, hypocrises, and other clear and obvious logical fallacies and unawareness of obvious male strugles. They are perfectly aware. When… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 01:44 PM |
| 3 | Do most women really prefer to use online dating and social media as the means to select potential men over being approached in real life?it happened. and he was respectul, put together, charming. The dating struggles are not evil imagination. they are real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Do most women really prefer to use online dating and social media as the means to select potential men over being approached in real life?Dood, there is no way in hell that would work at my gym, ever. Unless you had built up rapport with over sometime. Anything else would get you the “ok so that guy just asked me out and I barely know him it was kind of creepy” title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Do most women really prefer to use online dating and social media as the means to select potential men over being approached in real life?Apparently I’m good looking. But if that were the case I’d probably get attention in real life too. So I’m more confused than anything and can’t help you haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:13 PM |
| 5 | Do most women really prefer to use online dating and social media as the means to select potential men over being approached in real life?nah man, I kill it online, I'm fine. I'm just wondering why dating society is so ass backwards. I'd like to add "real life" in my options to meet people though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 05:17 PM |
| 17 | Do most women really prefer to use online dating and social media as the means to select potential men over being approached in real life?lol in a large city where women don't want to bothered anywhere by anyone but also complain how much dating apps suck and wish they could meet people in real life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 05:15 PM |
| 1 | the ultimate force that is shaping womens' frustration with dating is the engine of hypergamy raising her standards without her concious awarenessWow sweaty, I sense some serious misogynist vibezzz. Did you try showering and washing your asshole? /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.ahh yes "hot and fun" the two foundational pillars of a solid relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Soft harems and polygamy will be destigmatized in the coming generations if current trends continueI've asserted that men will split into three factions: top men sharing most of the women, and it being socially acceptable and espoused by mass media in the form of reality shows, apps to help create soft harems, etc. a segment of men that just give up. watching society adopt soft harems through media, and what is required to be in one - and realize getting there is not feasible. men in rural areas growing up with traditional values that will still marry young/conservativ wives. Women will split… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 03:48 PM |
| 3 | Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being niceAgreed: An objective fact is that the majority of men, even after improving their looks/confidence, will still not be attractive enough to elicit approaching signals at a consistent enough frequency. I'm pretty looks maxed, and it's STILL under the "huh that guy is attractive" threshold, like most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept""yo shawty no cap he got no rizz no drip he's a 'sperg" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Women punching too high in datingwhat's compeletely missing in all these responses from women is that what they actually choose to go after and pursue often is different than there supposed "high standards". these are all logical checklist responses. when it comes down to actual relationships - women (and men) pursue people based on how they make them feel - the emotional attraction, chemistry, etc. I sound crazy but, throw a mid value guy who really emotionally connects with a woman that says "I only deserve x,y,z" and suddenl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 06:52 PM |
| 0 | How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women?In a very odd case where I’m able to get far higher quality women on dating apps versus real life. In fact, my real life luck or horrid - never get any interest in any situation. But online I get flooded. All my relationships have been from online. If it weren’t for online dating I’d be fucked. I can approach / chat with a hundred women in real and get only lukewarm responses, defensive posturing, and no text backs, from women I’m not even that attracted too. Then I go on the apps and get 3 date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Get zero or negative interest in real life but a ton of interest online - what is going on and how can I change it?It’s bizarre I agree. And it does not matter how good I look or feel that day, period. In the summer I get super cut, 6 pack, muscular and will go for runs / to the gym and women will walk toward me and not even notice. So weird! Yet on apps and even hookup ones I’ll get very attractive women messaging me stuff like “hey you’re very attractive and exactly my type, let’s meet up for a drink and see if there is chemistry…well go back to your place later” (dead fucking serious…using the hook up app… | /r/seduction | 27/01/24 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Get zero or negative interest in real life but a ton of interest online - what is going on and how can I change it?Problem is name is all over the “are we dating the same guy” page now 😂 and I’m getting sussed out. | /r/seduction | 27/01/24 04:40 PM |
| 4 | Get zero or negative interest in real life but a ton of interest online - what is going on and how can I change it?Most people have the opposite problem lol. I’m not gonna lie - this is a great “problem”to have. Apps have been a godsend for me and by far the most efficient way for me to get dates with attractive women. It’s like a never ending buffet. “Problem” is I’m trying to meet women in real life too since you get a feel for their vibe. | /r/seduction | 27/01/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Get zero or negative interest in real life but a ton of interest online - what is going on and how can I change it?I don’t wait lol. But when I do talk to them they act either weird or bothered. And I have no problems talking to people. I feel like I rarely have a normal convo with a women. They always act weird around me when I talk to them in public. Like either they are defensive, or overly awkward/weird. I dont know what to think of it since I have normal convos with most other people other than women | /r/seduction | 27/01/24 04:14 PM |
| 4 | Get zero or negative interest in real life but a ton of interest online - what is going on and how can I change it?Thanks man for the insight. I’m wondering if it is the vibe, although I do amazing out meeting others etc. been told I’m friendly / charming / fun and people often ask me to hang with them again. Maybe I’m acting different to women. Women have commented occasionally that they thought I was gay though. I’ll pm you | /r/seduction | 27/01/24 04:05 PM |
| – | Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get boredThis is the correct answer, done. mr rogers would slay if you found out he killed 3 guys in WW2 and wouldn't bend against his values, no matter how many knit sweaters he wore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 02:15 PM |
| 9 | "They're only being nice because they want sex" - yeah, and there is nothing wrong with that"lol I know CHAD uses me for sex, but at least he's HONESTTT about pumping me at 2am and bragging about how good of a fuck I am to all his buddies with minimal effort, while those GROSS NICE GUYS just feel like they are oweeeddddddd sex they are so disgusting seriously why can't nice guys just go away" I swear there is a visceral hatred from women towards men who cannot get laid. they are literally disgusted by them to the point where a guy who is a known player that brags to his friends about f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 05:28 PM |
| 10 | Modern dating strategy: Dating multiple people before being exclusive - Are males against this?I love this age of "everything is subjective" no, it's not. I think a lot of people that dislike it have been conditioned/forced to tolerate it becuase "that's how it is now". no, I don't my dick inside a girl that just got creampied by another guy 2 days before just because "wE haVe nOT esTbalsihed ExcuSivity" we are truly in an age of degeneracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 05:07 PM |
| 6 | Modern dating strategy: Dating multiple people before being exclusive - Are males against this?This is the right answer and has always been the right answer since modern dating culture began a few decades ago, as lon g as you are monogomous. use your moral judgement. if a women is interested in you enough to see you multiple times, get intimate with you, she shouldn't be still evaluating her options with other men. imagine having a great night with a women, sleeping with her, her telling you she wants to see you again, then find out 3 days later she does the same with another guy. disgust… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:45 PM |
| 6 | Is the problem with modern dating simply due to options and economics?it's probably not the one with a gleaming smile, high profile career, tall, cocky/confident poses in photos, and messaging where he says the exact right things at the right time to get you to go out with him and fuck him before he moves on to the next. well polished men are typically the players. the guy who is not as polished, maybe says something awkward, his last pic is a little iffy - he's probably the guy actually looking for a relationships, but you'll pass him up . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:17 PM |
| 16 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI truly believe the end of goal feminism is alterting societys social and financial framework to maximize resource extraction from men. resources loosely defined as time, energy, money. careers: women need to be paid as much as men! relationships: you need to cater to womens' needs! society: womens' issues are paramount, we need to politicize it and enact laws for equality of outcome for women (not opportunity). Men are about equality of opportunity, indepedance, self responsibility/accountabili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 05:20 PM |
| – | Have you ever had a realization, or epiphany, about dating that helped put things in perspective?If you have good social skills, lack of conversational chemistry in a lot of cases is literally just the women subconciously preventing chemisty from occuring because she is not attracted to you. this is sensed as this weird aloofness/conversational wall you cannot break through. if this happens (and you have normal social skills), just end that date early. We have to remember that women are ruthlessly picky as it comes to looks and even if you look like her cup of tea on an online profile, when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 02:12 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHate how i have to constantly be looking out for the "are we dating the same guy" dating-police. I've been seeing this girl for around 3 months, have told her I am only sleeping with her (she said the same), but she told me she moves "super super slow". she is also relatively distant sometimes (doesn't respond to texts for awhile). I get the sense she still wants her "freedom" and is not ready to be in an exclusive relationship with me yet. So, I want to open up my options. However, I know once … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 08:16 PM |
| 10 | How much control do women really have over the dating market?you left out a huge swatch of normal, adjusted, career driven, socially attuned men who just aren't "HAWT" enough for their equivalents. the fact that women "just cannot" find a guy who is X,Y,Z seemingly normal quality is a blatant lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 08:08 PM |
| 7 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADalso, the attributes that compose the threshold are more often that not genetic and unchangeable - the one exception being building muscle (which most poeple can do). This presents a challenge to men trying to reach the threshold - as efforts to improve their physical appearance may be relatively meaningless if they have a limiting factor such as being short, bald, ugly face. I also believe that most men undersestimate how much they can improve, and just give up without trying. it's worth it for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?The answer is simple. avoid any circle jerk explanations. 1) How do you define "feast or famine" - if you go from being able to get 3-5 dates over a month versus 1 date the next month - that's probably just randomness. however, if suddenly the behavior of women has changed significantly across the board, there is another factor at play. 2) Exposure - you could just be exposed to more single women versus before. perhaps you started a new job, new hobby, or met some new people that introduced you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone’s opinion or outlook on certain beliefs changed based on engagement here?elaborate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 07:29 PM |
| 20 | Has anyone’s opinion or outlook on certain beliefs changed based on engagement here?being on here has only re-enforced my quasi red pill/black pill beliefts. it's also added the following: Women have a deep, visceral disgust for men who are not selected by women. This is evidenced in the knee jerk responses from women that have zero empathy towards men. I have theorized this is biological in nature and stems from the fear of reproducing with poor genetic material. similar to the automatic disgust reflex found in nature when encountering noxious fumes / poison, etc. women's soli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 06:23 PM |
| 110 | So, is talking to women at bars just… over?noticed the same thing as well - however it seems to depened on the city/location. the dating app companies have won. the irony that the forces of capitalism have played such a huge role in dating dynamics. that dating apps companies have managed to CHANGE how we approach others from in person to apps and stigmatized in person approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 04:47 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWomen - how good looking does a guy have to be for you to notice in a social setting like a bar and think "huh, he's cute"? what percent of men fit this? better question - if a guy has his looks optimized (in good shape, good dress, good haircut), will he likely fit this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 02:11 PM |
| 3 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADweird thing I've noticed: trans and queer leaning men have way better luck dating an attractive women than a straight man. being associated as this puts you in the "niche'" catagory, which there are less of these people, a unique women that enjoys these kind of people, and less competition. I've also found it incredibly interesting that attractive lipstick lesbians and bisexuals will date objectively less attractive butch women, yet stil desire hot 6 foot 2 men when they want a straight partner.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 01:58 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMakes Sense! guard is up. funny story - I was with a guy friend of mine where he was jokingly putting his around me - he left and the girls next to me started chating with me acting super fun friendly and wanted me to join them for drinks. they said "too bad your bf is not here". I kinda of just played along but made me think that I was probably totally hamless since they thought I was gay. maybe I work that angle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 07:11 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadgood point on too strong, although im typically playful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadwhat would make you avoid or not talk to a man at a bar? I feel lke its difficult for me to have a normal conversation with a girl at a bar or out - there always seems to be something "there" - I can't explain it, beyond a normal conversation. like some weird additional layer. it takes the form of slight nervousness, awkwardness, indifference, while I'm trying to have a normal convo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:56 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadforgot to mew properly...... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:48 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAny fucking clue as to why someone would have stellar success online but close to zero success in real life WHILE being in a large city with bars/clubs/social enviroments? no has been able to give me an answer. I live in a large social city. I kill it online - dates with attractive women when I want basically. can easily get if I wanted using apps with attractive women. in real life. Zero. I'll go out to social bars/coffee shops/the gym. have fun, have a good time, but women seem to avoid me or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:26 PM |
| 6 | Everything about the current dating scene makes it far more likely for sexually successful men to become unempathetic and leave women emotionally hurtYou can be both sweet and confident. It’s a tough balance to strike though. That is the kryponite. Kiss her forehead and tell her you missed her, after mercilessly fucking and dominating her in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 07:01 PM |
| – | if you're shy and introverted as a man in america are you doomed?Adapt or fail to reproduce. Externally animated and extroverted men are highly valued here. Typically only in america. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Asking for single women aged 30+I understand women not wanting to date men who make 50k when they make 200k. What I don’t understand is women making 200k when the man makes 150-175k | /r/seduction | 27/12/23 05:39 PM |
| 12 | Is there truly a large subset of men who are financially stable, emotionally stable, honest, intentional, make the best of their physical appearance (grooming/etc), have interesting hobbies etc that struggle attract their equal?to find ones they are *attracted" too. people forgot you must add the "attracted too" qualifier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 04:38 PM |
| 6 | Is there truly a large subset of men who are financially stable, emotionally stable, honest, intentional, make the best of their physical appearance (grooming/etc), have interesting hobbies etc that struggle attract their equal?I agree with you. I'm basing this topic on what I constantly seem to hear from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 04:37 PM |
| 4 | Should guys take it personally if they have to wait till their 30s to have success with women?I never took it personally. it is what it is. I worked on myself - physical, mental, emotional, career, finances, experiences. this shit grows a person up and gives them a certain mature aire. Knowing that my time would hopefully come in my thirties. luckily, I kept my head of hair and have a babyface, so now I'm a mid thirties guy who hit all his goals who looks like he is in his early thirties or late twenties. the success I had from women went up like crazy. the funny thing is, women in their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:43 PM |
| 9 | Chasing women is a huge waste of time.women will only be interested in you if you have something offer in terms of status, looks, social skills, competence. if you have these and you chase relentlessly, it might turn off a women. if you don't have these and you don't chase, it ain't gonna do shit. there is no reason for her to want you, even if you dont chase. you are invisible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 03:39 PM |
| 3 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.You forgot to add “not hot” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 12:46 AM |
| 8 | Is there a type of man that you would have fun with but not commit too?also consider that having sex (even if it's good) does necessarily mean a women wants to keep dating or seeing you. I think there is a misconception that if you sleep with a women you "have" her. Women enjoy sex just as much as men and probably will get turned on and just try it, even if they are unsure of compatibility. This has happened to me several times - especialylly with more attractive career oriented women in their mid 30's. they are very independent, but still want to go out on dates a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 06:40 PM |
| 2 | Women generally don't consider a mans potential, and this is causing unhealthy imbalances in the dating marketVerbal Circlejerk. Potential is invalid if “feels” aren’t created. Women don’t look for the potential for “feels”, only if you give them to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 06:43 PM |
| 2 | One of the smartest comments on here recently really resonated with me about the current social environmentWomen HEAVILY prioritize mate selection based on short term qualities (Game, Looks, Status, Charisma) over long term qualities (Connection, Similar Values). What makes matters worse is that a lot of the short term qualities that are rewarded are are in direct conflict with the inherent nature of long term qualities. Example - A man who is responsible, has a career, even temper (although on the surface women say are are attractive) requires the man to be inherently more stable - both in his commu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 04:52 PM |
| 10 | Being Social does NOT Help Lonely Men in Dating (CMV)It does help. but it's not a panacea. you always HAVE to be VERY INTENTIONAL and think about the social environments you immerse yourself in to meet women who are attracted to you whom you are also attracted to that are also single. you can't just say "ok, Ill join a hobby". ok what hobby? what hobby/group has single women that you like? that will open to chat with you? if your hobby is playing heavy metal - good luck with that. you'll meet headbangers but it'll be 95% men. if you volunteer - ok… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Being gay, bi, or trans is better than being straight in 2023 in first world countriesSO MUCH THIS. very true of bisexual women I know that are into the butch look. I mean, I Get it - they want a masculine man, but how are they also attracted to a still-sorta feminine looking (butch) woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Being gay, bi, or trans is better than being straight in 2023 in first world countriesI've noticed a very very strange phenomena - that it seems it's far easier getting intimacy from an attractive women as a gender-fluid/trans person than a straight man. I've noticed there seems to be a niche for gender fluid men who are not as necessarily attractive as straight counterparts - and an attractive women who is queer will set the looks bar FAR FAR higher for a straight guy versus a gender fluid person or trans. the reasons why I am not sure. Example's from personal life: one of my fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 07:43 PM |
| – | Friendzone and dating advice: the elefant in the room that I haven't seen adressedgood points! never thought of "keeping distant" nor it's something I want to do. I'm a fairly open person :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 02:16 PM |
| – | Friendzone and dating advice: the elefant in the room that I haven't seen adressedI think the most frustrating part is that you sometimes meet women in contexts where only a friendship can form. then when the context/constraint is removed, the women says "well we are only friends". example - in college I had a gf but also several very close female friends. gf and I broke up after a year or so - I wanted to get out in the dating world and my first though was "hey why not one of my female friends - we already connect / have things in common / have fun" - nope, got the "we have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 01:29 PM |
| 5 | Friendzone and dating advice: the elefant in the room that I haven't seen adressedmost of my experience is actually C with women, which seems different than the norm. I've never in my life been friends with a women first that transitioned into a relationship, because said women always says "we are too much like brothers now". I've had a few women that have actually liked me transition into friend zone. I think it's stupid, but it is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating is one vicious cycle of overrating oneself and then going after the people better than us.Yes, the bottom 90% that aren’t tall, good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Modern dating is one vicious cycle of overrating oneself and then going after the people better than us.You are rejecting emotionally Mature men at your own level all the damn time, i Gaurantee. Then turning around and complaining. End thread. Done. Go home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 06:29 PM |
| 20 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outf'ing nailed it. this. in the modern dating age in large cities - this is exactly what is going on. If you were to somehow, crudely gather "stats" for a person, you'd find that women constantly reject men that are equal and ABOVE them. Also, women don't seem to ever point out the important of raw attraction in all of this - this is the most important "Stat". you can knock if out of the park in all areas, but if you are missing ONE critical component related to raw attraction (short, balding, ugl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:24 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThe difference between “I didn’t feel a connection” and “there was a spark!!!” Is a few inches of height, a few mms of bone structure in the face, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD. You would think we could discuss mens faces, are they handsome or ugly, but the vast majority of the comments are about style, grooming, does he wash his ass, or what his hands look like I downright hate the signaling that somehow the apparent lack of men that fail to meet these cosmetic factors is the reason why they "can't find an attractive guy". It's total bullshit. we have to remember every statement from a women like this, you need to add the following disclaimer: *that I am attracted to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 05:49 PM |
| 6 | Success with an individual women early in the courting process is heavily dependent on awareness of her emotional conflation brought on by logistical roadblocksyeah - I think it really depends on the women too - if you find someone more emotional mature and self aware - she is going to pause if her emotions "die out" and think "how I feel right now is not necessarily how I feel about him as a whole" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 04:16 PM |
| 4 | Success with an individual women early in the courting process is heavily dependent on awareness of her emotional conflation brought on by logistical roadblocksspinning plates is necessary as an insurance policy early on. most men PREFER to focus on one women and don't like to spin plates - it's more of a necessary "evil". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Success with an individual women early in the courting process is heavily dependent on awareness of her emotional conflation brought on by logistical roadblocksI don't agree wholly - this can apply to a women who is starting to get to know a man as well - and prevent a budding relationship from forming. feelings can still be there and she is "into the man" - but because she is still getting to know him they have not built enough permanence. especially in this day and age when women have a lot of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 03:27 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen - Is "Mogging" a real phenonama? Mogging is when your perception of a man's attractiveness you thought was cute instantly drops due to said man being in close proximity to a far more attractive man that enters the area. The hypothesis is that its your natural biological drive to be with the best option playing in real time - and that it actually CHANGES (at a biological level) your attraction. Example: you are at a bar and you notice a 5 foot 10 cute-ishguy, you start chatting with him and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 04:38 PM |
| – | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogyniststo add to that - a large proportion of men who struggle to get dates do not live in their basements, actually shower their A$%holes, do have interesting hobbies, dress well etc. when women consider who is available, 90% of men are completely invisible. there is no empathy to these men at all. they are essentially non-existent. when most women complain about men, you always have to add the *if I'm sexually attracted to him, which is often based on a distinct set of features that are immutable and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:22 PM |
| 10 | Can we just avoid "but we have it worse"?It truly blows my mind. It’s one thing that seems so painfully obvious to me and most men I know, yet the masses of women deny it. It’s almost like they are completely incapable of seeing something so obvious like gravity, or the sun rising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 09:52 PM |
| – | Can we just avoid "but we have it worse"?No. Women can easily find good men but reject them for superficial reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 06:32 PM |
| 20 | Can we just avoid "but we have it worse"?No. Because most men have it far worse in the modern dating age and it would be invalidating this systemic advantage. The Gini coefficient, which measures inequality is far worse than the wealth gap in the US as it comes to ability to match with someone. It’s like rolling in Africa saying “can we just ignore who has it worse, starving tribes or the rich?” Women today absolutely have the most privilege in dating, compared to any point in history and men. The fact that women continue to deny this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else noticed an uptick in women approaching?I've noticed more women randomly talking to me wanting me to set me up with their friends, but none actually hitting on me trying to get with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 11:19 PM |
| 4 | Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now.wrong. the most common complaint I hear from women is that the "bar is on the floor" and how it's so hard to find a good guy that has interesting hobbies /doesnt live at home / etc etc etc. women dont want to solve this problem, because they in general don't give a shit about men or mens' problems. so both sexes are at a stalemate and the women who complain ad nauseum about it look like entitled pricks. its disgusting. so like you said, it's an unsolvable problem. let's see where that takes us a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 10:25 PM |
| 8 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmAs my subscription ran out, suddenly matches started appearing. The matches didn’t respond but the system encouranged me to subscribe again. this is the cancer of apps. I use Feeld occasionally and have figned up for the subsrciption, which is like 30 bucks a month (where you get to see who swipes you and swipe them) if you don't have the subscription, you seem to NEVER match with anyone, despite having a lot of matches in queue. so you get reeled in and pay. then you see the matches, a lot of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now.I fail to understand why "well do you expect us to date men we are unnatracted too" is always the first argument when women completely elevate their selection criteria to stratospheric levels and self sabatoging quite literally their highest privilaged position in society when it comes to dating. it's like a rich person saying that they "just can't find a place to live" and refusing to step foot in a house unless it has minimum 5 bathrooms, a jacuzzi, and impeccable landspacing to a bunch of mid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 04:09 PM |
| – | Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsenseWrong. in the context of dating, women ABSOLUTELY determine what is valuable in a man. market dyanmics 101. you can think you have the best product but if people don't buy it it doesnt mean jack shit. this is not to be confused with objective personal value, however you choose to define that. A man can be a good solid guy (good job, good morals, in good physical condition, etc) and have a low sexual market value becuase he is short / facially unnattractive/neurodivergent/etc. What men do that is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 05:14 PM |
| 4 | Taking photos for OLD just feels lame and pathetic for a dude...It's a "necessary evil" but it pretty much required. and I'm talking about REALLY putting effort into your pics - hiring a pro/friend, picking the outfits that accentuate your best features, even down to getting a haircut before and picking specific locations. but it pays incredible dividends and most guys don't do it. so just do it. I also hate that I have to put on a suit/get a haircut/polish my interview skils to interview for a engineering job where I will likely rarely interact with others … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 09:58 PM |
| 5 | If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert.this 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 08:36 PM |
| 19 | If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert.no, women reguraly find clean drinking water but refuse to drink it because they are waiting for the tropical drinks and champagne. then they drink too much, get hangovers, and complain that the drinks make them unhealthy despite, as they bat away fresh clean water thrown at them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 08:35 PM |
| 5 | The reality of dating for menlooks like you found a diamond in the rough in OLD. that's not the norm. I will say that failing to escalate/talk confidently/show intent will destroy your chances with a women that you have a real connection with on online dating. you have to nail the audition to get the role, nail the interview to get the job. its a necessary evil. I'll say personally, in my whole dating life (20+ years), I've never had a good connection with a women as a friendship/companionship first that ended in a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 08:28 PM |
| 11 | The reality of dating for menJFC you probably have qualities that are universally attractive to most women, it has nothing to do with "CONNECTION". true connection means fuck all in the online dating age. women prioritize swag, looks, status, saying the right things. you know how many dates ive been on where we do have a ton in common, there is a great flow, and she "doesn't feel a romantic connection"? the vast majority. whereas some smooth talking son-of-b comes in with little in common with the women and takes her. "conn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 04:22 PM |
| 27 | The reality of dating for menbu bu bu women have it JUST as HARD. this is the biggest boldface lie that continues to be propogated. I'll say it until I'm on my deathbed. but I agree OP, that is the reality for 90-95% of men. And this is coming from someone who gets tons of matches on dating apps and can get a date each night of the week with an attractive women if OLD if I wanted (dead serious). But it's same BS. I go on these dates and they will drop me immediately if my personality doesnt match me profile, their pre-suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:29 PM |
| -1 | It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention.biggest culprits are women ages 30-40. 20-30 as well but not as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:04 PM |
| 12 | It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention.except people keep focusing in on the "small issues" in perpituity, and "can't seem to find a decent guy". suddenly dating is all about the "small issues" rather than seeing others as humans that have good qualities but also flaws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:45 PM |
| 2 | It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention.it has nothing to do with falling for people they don't know. yeah - lets get on the "blame men" bandwagon much? its now a matter of ROI. why the hell would you want to invest any reasonable time, money, or energy in this modern dating shistorm where the other sex can just drop you at a drop of a hat after you've taken the evening off to get to know her and buy a drink/food etc. because you wore the wrong shoe color, chewed with your mouth open for more than 0.25 seconds, or you are 80% of what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?believe it or not, "not wanting to take care" of someone is not just a woman issue. there is something hot about a woman who is feminine and lets you take the male role in certain aspects, but ALSO is very independent and has her shit together and can stand her ground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?Becuase a lot of us have standards too, if we also worked on aspects of our lives in addition to our careers, formed solid good friendships, and have interesting hobbies/etc. the biggest ingredient is female hypergamy though.. why? ok, so I make around 175K, have my own house and a condo I'm renting. in incredibly good shape (probabably top 3-5% to be honest). can cook well, travel, like to think I'm a good conversationalist, dress well, shower blah blah blah. so If I'm looking for a LTR, I need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:03 PM |
| 4 | Which parts of Redpill philosophy do you think have merit?I think 6 is way overblown. It's more about how you express and what's it about. cry because your mom died? probably ok cry becuase you lost your job, and you have no plan for recovery, you decide to sulk and not pick yourself up - anyone would find that unnattractive. I'm more of a quasi-black piller so I think "looks" is the most important factor by FAR. and that the factors that determine looks are mostly immutable for women (height, facial, hair). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Do people actually go on dates?I jjust moved to a large city with a good OLD profile and I don't know anyone. The only real social interaction I have had has been dates lol. 10 dates in the past month. zero friendship/potential friendship interactions. my life is backwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 01:49 PM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADLooks reign supreme. I probably look the best I have looked in my life (lots of weightlifting, then dropping to low BF). grew into my extreme babyface over the past few years. women were not really into me in my twenties at all. Now I'm juggling 3 women - and im not sure if any of them really like me as a person or if they just want to get physical. I honestly think they just want a fun distraction from their daily busy lives- but women are different in that they at least want more of an experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:10 PM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADdon't forget the snapback cap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Not all psychopathic men are master manipulators. Lots of women date guys who are walking red flags.whenever I picture som eguy wearing a huge backwards cap I think of this "yo sup shawty you like ma drip come bac to ma crib we sip on some henny clap dem cheeks nom' sayin" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 02:26 PM |
| – | There is almost a perfect direct and positive correlation between a womens' objective looks and the chance that she will be interested in you, even AFTER you've established commonality/chemistry.nicely said - it's not that these women are picking men who they have LESS in common with just over looks. its more that they probably meet men whom they have just as much in common with but are better looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:44 AM |
| – | There is almost a perfect direct and positive correlation between a womens' objective looks and the chance that she will be interested in you, even AFTER you've established commonality/chemistry.yeah, that's the drawback. but I feel like I had at least a good directional understanding, with a high enough sample size. this is also why I kept it to black and white catagories. dry convo, pauses, no flow = 1. we get along and can have a normal converation = 2 we finish each others' jokes, we have weird but specific things in common, she is laughing, touching me, showing good eye contact, we get into deep philosophical convos where we both see eye to eye = 3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:22 AM |
| – | There is almost a perfect direct and positive correlation between a womens' objective looks and the chance that she will be interested in you, even AFTER you've established commonality/chemistry.makes sense. I also wonder if the more attractive women also have easy access to more attractive man than me who ALSO have just as much in common, so they end up picking them. it doesn't mean that they would not of picked me, but they just better had better options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:08 AM |
| – | Why don’t the men who constantly complain about women dating based only on appearance just go after better women?where there is an unnatractive man with an attractive women, there is almost ALWAYS a reason unrelated to "wow she had hots for this guy despite him being not that attractive" I find out earlier in the relationship they were more looksmatched. over time, the guy started to let himself go They are much older, and met pre-social media where looks didn't matter as much Religion - they had met at church very young, and neither were exposed to online dating much. They met in a friend group over tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 01:30 PM |
| -1 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.when I see people masse running around getting fucked unlubed and raw from consequences of their poor actions and feelings, to the point where its clearly affecting society and my life, I start getting a little irked. example, why the fuck are there so many obese people everywhere slamming down food like junky addicted zombies and choosing not to do anything about it? It's usightly, it's gross, you are normalizing bad health decisions, just because you dont want to FEEELLLL bad about being made … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:47 PM |
| 0 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.and no one is entitled to being saved from the consequences or sympathy of poor feelings-based decisions. you can feel however you want, but if you don''t recognize poor choices then I have no sympathy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:37 PM |
| 0 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.yes an ad-hominem attack detracts from validity /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:35 PM |
| 5 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.lolol I know right? rationaling responding to an argument is sooooooo 2020 jk lol amirite #noaccountability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:29 PM |
| 10 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.and then men will gamify the system to elicit the most feelings from women, rather than form natural connections with women, because they have no other choice. but yeah, as long as it "feels good" that's ok. I also eat mcdonalds everyday because it "feels good". oh it feels sooo good. I also procrastinate becuase it feels sooooo goood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:28 PM |
| 8 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.yes, chad loves women because he gets sex and adoration from them, not becuase he actually loves those specific women. while timothy is jacking off alone in his apartment while the women he has a crush on is banging chad and crying to him. but yes timothy is the asshole. there are no assholes or nice guys or good guys anymore. only people extracting from other people. morality is a concept requiring effort and selflessness, control of emotions, and forgoing instant gratification, all things lost… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:25 PM |
| 4 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.a lot of men would to take things slow, but if you don't SHOW you like her and elicit emotions/hormonal responses via touch/escalation then SOMEONE ELSE will and pull her away from you, regarldess of how strong your personality connection was. men HATE that. we'd rather women NOT make emotional based decisions like this. I cannot tell you how many times in my younger days I'd go out with friends to a bar, have a great conversation with a women there (either in the group or at the bar), then have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.totally agreed here. deconstructing something nuanced like human interactions and teaching someone from that base rather than just. going. out. and. talking. to. people is a recipe for distaster. in reality, men should first learn how to comfortably socialize with men and women, treating them as invididuals/form of a connection. then if they still struggle attracting women they can start taking small doses of Red Pill advice. there IS truth in it, but it just be taking in small doses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.yeah, if the intent is the same why do men who have to learn it get penalized? "well chad just wanted to sleep with me but at least he's a natural and making me feel good unlike that skeezy timothy would had to read about how to improve his success with women ewww" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:01 PM |
| 5 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.men are forced to resort to mixing in these "tactics" because other men do it naturally and will immediately usurp you. its game theory. its not that men WANT TO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.vehemently disagree. men can absolutely elicit these emotions in a lot of women artificially. all red pill/PUA is harnessing emotional psychology that already exists. whether you can argue that it is bad or good does not detract from it's validaty. chemistry is also hugely dependent on these emotions as well. e.g. you can get along with someone VERY well and have a lot in common but she may not feel "chemistry" because there are no emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 03:46 PM |
| – | Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costlyThis. you help a male friend move. he buys you pizza and beer. next time to you are out, he also thanks you and buys you another beer. 6 months later you told him you bought a new couch and he jumps in and just helps, no questions asked. you need to move eventually and he jumps in and helps. as opposed to - a women says she needs "your muscles" to help her move. you help and her and she does buy you beer and pizza and tells you she is forever grateful and how could she not doing it without. you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 04:29 PM |
| 15 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating successMen don't ask for much, but women ask for much more. This is even seperate from sex drive (most people will say "well its because men are more horny). If a women is nice, in decent shape, I'll give her a chance to see if there is chemistry. that's literally it and how most men are. even if there is not immediate chemistry I'll still give it a chance. part of dating is getting to know each other. all the way women need an immediate "vibe", as well as minimal "icks", along with physical attraction… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Would you date the opposite gender versiomof yourself?Yes, Totally. Problem is, the opposite gender version of me would think she is far superior to the male version of me, so i would never happen. I'm picturing a 5 foot 10 very fit/in shape women who can cook very well, makes 175K a year, dresses well, has a younger looking face, owns a house, has a good career, and is cultured/traveled. This type of women would probably be dating a doctor/lawyer/other high status figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:39 PM |
| – | Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costlyThere isnt a sense of implied loyalty that exists with female friends as with male friends. This is very important to most men. they often pop in your life when they need to feel good or to fill a void, not because they actually want to see you or miss you. That is why I keep female friends at a distance - I'll be friends with them, but I won't invest the same way as I do with a close guy friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:36 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadtrue, but If I keep smashing new girls the probability of me getting an std gift /metoo /etc charge increases, nevermind the up front cost/time/energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 02:54 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnyone men dating in their 30's encountering women who are overly strategic daters and find it off-putting? It's always some successful women in her 30's who is decently attractive. first she comes across as very intelligent, charming, fun, fit, etc. the conversation flows well and she texts/dates in a timely manner. you might go on a date or two, and even sleep with her, and think everything is fine. then out of the blue she gets distant and you find out she is dating several men, men that she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 02:42 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADyeah, at the time it was soo defeating. this is why men need to everything in their power to maximize their looks if they want to improve their dating lives, as well as focus on women that are more into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 02:59 PM |
| 7 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADyup. but this is a case study of how women are not even aware of what they say vs what they are actually into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 01:43 PM |
| 5 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADoh god I have a good one that is similar to yours. I met a beautiful girl in college - we started hanging out and got along so well, flirt lightly but she always backed off for some reason. it's like we had a ton of chemistry but she just couldn't do it. one day she waxes poetic about how "men playing beautiful piano music" are her kryptonite, and that a "a guy could be totally not her type but once he plays certain songs it's all over". She then tells me she was hearing beautiful music in the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 01:36 PM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADsomeone should randomly sample 100 people ages 20-40 from the us population, put them both a on a looks maximizing program for a year, and see which gender turns out increasing their looks rating the most, and the effort required to get there, as well as success from the opposite sex. I bet you, if everyone stuck to the program (which would include weight loss, grooming, skin care, dressing) for a year, the distribution would be skewed tightly to the right for women, with most being in the 7-9 r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Question for all : Has anyone ever somehow gotten worse at dating than they used to be?Same with me - I don't know if it's just burnout or not caring about trying to escalate. honestly, I think it just comes down to me wanting to get to know someone and not worry about all that escalation/game/etc bullshit. I just don't have the mental bandwidth for it. The thing, I think it helps weed out people are aren't compatibile with fast, but once you find someone you really click with it's easy and obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Question for all : Has anyone ever somehow gotten worse at dating than they used to be?after my last relationship ended last summer, and taking a break, I approached dating all starry-eyed, newly updated pictures, I was also more confident / etc and definetely looked better than when I used online dating before. it was a complete shit show - but in a weird confusing way. it's not like I had no success - I had way more success in some areas, and way worse in others than before. I'd get way more matches, but the dates would be worse. or I'd have really good dates where I felt chemis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 04:06 PM |
| 3 | As a single woman, what do you hate about dating in 2023?and being ignored because they don't have the right "looks", "swag/rizz". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Dating in your 30s for a guy is way easier as long as you have your shit together.some people seem to think that if you are a very attractive well put together man who has a lot in common /chemistry with a women how is 24, that she will suddenly puke and lose attraction when she finds out you are 33 and not 28. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 07:27 PM |
| 4 | What is the main reason men are single 2023well, its not like alot of them dated while they were working directly together. they met usually in the first year/etc, kept in touch, some went off to other areas of the business/other companies. point is, close proximity created the "seed" for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:39 PM |
| 7 | What is the main reason men are single 2023yeah, I think this is something that looking back a lot of men could never have predicted - that your environment played such a critical role in finding a long term partner. there are a lot of great successful men who will probably struggle to find a partner because they went to engineering school and then worked at a mostly male firm after college. this leaves them to using online dating as the only avenue (which doesn't work for most men). the craziest example of this I can think of is how eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 03:26 PM |
| 13 | Women are actively repelled by genuinely kind men no matter how attractive they are, and rather consistently go for toxic men who mistreat them. This entire issue has been hijacked and obfuscated by them fabricating this bullshit “nice guy” narrative.Your position is hyperbolic, but the core psycho pathology is true for women. it's not a a choice, or concious. Women (and to some extent men) are hardwired to conflate emotional turmoil with attraction. stability is the opposite of turmoil. look at the rollercoaster date experiment - where women reported more feelings for men going on dates right after going on rollercoasters. for women, lack of emotion is lack of attraction. if you are a stable wholesome good guy, you are removing the emotiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:45 PM |
| 4 | do women have a "6th sense" or naturally heightened awareness of certain attributes in men that men have a hard time detecting or understanding, that would explain very contradictory/confusing patterns in mate selection?yeah usually there is a reason, but in a few cases there is no apparent reason thanks for the link - will check it out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:34 PM |
| 2 | do women have a "6th sense" or naturally heightened awareness of certain attributes in men that men have a hard time detecting or understanding, that would explain very contradictory/confusing patterns in mate selection?except some of the men I know that are unnatractive still get attractive women (despite not having game/wealth/etc/anything else) and some men I know that are attractive struggle (despite being normal/nuerotypical) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:34 PM |
| 0 | do women have a "6th sense" or naturally heightened awareness of certain attributes in men that men have a hard time detecting or understanding, that would explain very contradictory/confusing patterns in mate selection?"mummy never loved me" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:32 PM |
| 1 | do women have a "6th sense" or naturally heightened awareness of certain attributes in men that men have a hard time detecting or understanding, that would explain very contradictory/confusing patterns in mate selection?Wow, thanks for the well thought out coherent response you misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:13 PM |
| 2 | How do you define “Chad”To a chad, obtaining sex and attention from women is an afterthought, it comes to him so as much as living in a first world country and getting access to water. it's always there, through no effort To a chad, he sometimes gets annoyed at attention from women. women pining after him, lustfully. he may be tired, or exhausted, or just bored and not want to deal with women texting him for sex. to chad, women reveal their must lustful desires, often become creatures of pure visceral sexuality, to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?I've found that the majority of men I see in relationships are see are just normal people with normal faults. which again, makes sense until you consider there are also large swaths of men that are well adjusted, groomed, interesting, etc. that cannot seem to get a girlfriend and struggle. if I know a ton of normal non-smooth, non-edgy, men with little social media, normal looks guys who can get girlfriends, that should mean that there should not exist a huge segment of men who are trying to con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What's the biggest lie you were told about the opposite gender that you discovered was not true as you got older?Being a polite gentleman is attractive. I envision the m’lady fedora meme and realize how utterly repulsive that is now. I definitely don’t think it’s attractive, I don’t even think it’s neutral. I actually think it’s literally makes a women as dry as the Sahara. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:27 AM |
| – | Seems to me dating could be extremely simple if people were just to do thisSeems to me the solution to obesity is so simple - people just have to stop eating unhealthy delicious food and exercise way more! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 04:51 PM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeThe issue with a lot of women is that 1) they are only attracted to a small minority of men, often the same men other women are attracted too 2) their threshold for attractiveness rises as they are exposed to more of these men, and cannot be “reset” to a lower threshold 3) they often blame men and complain that there no good men, while completely leaving out the part where they only find a very very small% of men attractive. All of this combined makes these women look like whiny spoiled children… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 02:59 PM |
| – | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?women who expose themselves to too much social media/dating apps are shooting themselves in the foot since their natural hypergamous engine is going to keep raising their "minimum attraction" threshold for men until the gap is so large that they cannot find men wh oare "good enough", this threshold is also immutable - meaning it cannot be lowered. what you will eventually get is a bunch of mid 40's wrinkling aging women who stil want a top 1% man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:42 PM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?people like him complain because it's true and their voices are not heard. that is what the blackpill is - raw truth that people cannot seem to accept. I do agree that men should groom, go to the gym, etc. as it will make anyone MORE attractive, and if you have a "limiting feature" (e.g. short, ugly face) you should STILL do it. but we have to stop parading this nonsense that most men can become top 20% in looks. Also, why are we saying that top % of looks even correlates to being atttractive en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:25 PM |
| 2 | If men want to even the dating field they should take better care of their appearancereminds me of the "hot server" at the brewery I went to women kept staring at. dood was wearing black sweatpants, a white t shirt, hair messed up/unkempt, had a slight belly but he had great facial proportions and wide shoulders (even though he was skinny-fat). literally not taking care of any part of his appearance and still looking hot based on purely genetic factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:17 PM |
| 4 | If men want to even the dating field they should take better care of their appearancenailed it. Also, women are far more picky about very specific genetics-based looks qualities, far far more than men. how often have you heard women picking apart little things 'I just can't date read head, I just can't date a guy with a larger nose, I just can't date an asian" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:13 PM |
| 10 | Let's be honest. Dating for men is an incessantly painful numbers game"I don't get it just talk to women like normal people why is that so hard to understand" "oh, by the way, Im tall and muscular" lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Let's be honest. Dating for men is an incessantly painful numbers gamestands out doesnt mean is attractive. I dont understand why women seem to think that absence of bad qualities automatically makes a man attractive. it doesn't for most men becuase most men are invisible. this is along the lines of "well if ONLY he showered/groomed/treated women like people women would like him!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:03 PM |
| 12 | Let's be honest. Dating for men is an incessantly painful numbers gamewhen women picture the type of men that has the qualities above, they are closing their eyes and envisioning an attractive guy walking around that is fit, well groomed, happy with is friends, with interesting hobies that they would want to catch his attention. now imagine a shorter or ugly (or even average) looking guy who is well groomed/fun/happy/etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:01 PM |
| 4 | Hyperawareness of the current state of relationships and dating is bad for an individual's mental health (especially men)nevermind that you can have a ton of these "high status" qualities, but one low status quality will make you invisible. good facial looks! High Income! Good Status! Confidence! oh, you're 5 foot 5. yup, NEXT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 04:58 PM |
| 1 | To What Extent Are Attraction Standards Plastic?some things are so self evident as to not require mountains of data to prove what is so glaringly obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | To What Extent Are Attraction Standards Plastic?didn't even address my point. like I said, "marginally attractive" to a lot of women, especially ones in their 20s-30s are qualities held by the top 5-10% of men. go to a bar and point out to a female friend how many men she finds attractive enough to date - in all likelihood its just a few guys in the entire bar. And I'd tend to agree - I also think only a few men are objective attractive (as a man) and in general women are far more attractive than men. watch her swipe on old. its the top 5% of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:35 PM |
| 1 | To What Extent Are Attraction Standards Plastic?Yes. You also going to tell me the sun rises in the west and Gravity repels?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 12:52 AM |
| 1 | To What Extent Are Attraction Standards Plastic?marginally attractive = top 5% of men. lol. meanwhile, there are a ton of men that are put together/groomed well but are still not "marginally attractive". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 09:22 PM |
| 38 | CMV: The average man is attracted to the average woman. The average woman is not attracted to the average man.And that person just happens to have to have the right stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 07:11 PM |
| 4 | Men‼️it's not your fault ‼️no. one of the affects of being emotional available is being emotional. example: I decide to be emotionally avaiable with a girl. this means if I'm interesting or have feelings, I'll tell her the truth (be emotional). once I tell her this, the uncertainty (anxiety) she feels is gone and she misconstrues that for lack of attraction. She has you now, and therefore doesnt want you. note - this is typical true for early in relationships. once the women falls for you you can usually give little nibbl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 08:23 PM |
| 11 | Men‼️it's not your fault ‼️Women are hardwired to be turned off by men who lean towards emotional unavailability, especially early in the courting process. This includes, stating where you stand with the women ("I like you"), to gushing about your personal issues. Don't do it. lean on your friends for support early on. Once you've established the your girl has started falling for you harder, then you can start opening up, little by little. Don't listen to anyone (especially women) telling you how this is not the case. don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 06:18 PM |
| – | Dear women, what makes a man "boring"?"boring" has nothing to do with interests. It has everything to do with being able to produce an emotional rollercoaster. so yes, a frat boy who is outwardely extroverted, hot/cold, likes to pound beers and have a fun fun time, fuck you, then leave you on read is going to provide a way better emotional rollercoaster than a arty calm hipster who has intellectual interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 01:28 PM |
| 1 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.its not hypocrisy because men have far far lower standards for entry level criteria then women and men are far more forgiving. most men will go most women a chance to see if a deeper connection is there, while most women today will pass up men for petty reasons that don't matter, just because theere is another guy around the corner. so I don't agree with you at all. sure, men also care about looks, but women care about looks, confidence, charisma, game, etc etc and will ditch you for tiny reason… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.I heavily disagree. most men are fine with minimal baseline for pursuing a relationship (girl is nice, cute, etc.). women are not. Women are the ones who need to reflect the most on their choices. again, there is ZERO accountability for women. it starts with them. Most Men have plenty of accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 07:15 PM |
| – | CMV : Every single dating and relationship issue come down to lack of attractionproblem is that women confuse stability with lack of attraction. the also live in the moment. this is why acting distant/being uncertain about your feelings always hooks women and being certain about your feelings makes them bored ane leave. a women can be incredibly attracted to you in one moment, then 3 days later lose it because you texted and told your feelings about her, which ruins the anxiety and is misconstruied as "I just dont feel it" The absolutely worse thing you can do to a women is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 06:23 PM |
| 2 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.Its not that simple. a lot of times women will actualy enjoy sex with someone but choose to not date them because they don't "keep them on their toes", "have a lots of charisma", etc. or if there is no huge spark. its also not binary either. a lot of women pass up great potential partners they do have qualities from the first list, but the qualities are not enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 06:21 PM |
| 5 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?what ive learned is that modern dating is like a big fucking dance you have to put on for women to be "selected". DANCE MOTHERFUCKER DANCE YEAH YEAH DANCE DANCE YOU MONKEY *giggle giggle well I don't CHOOSE you YET..dance more!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 03:02 PM |
| 3 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?or if your temperament is more stable/introverted/reflective. fuck if someone is going to tell me to "be more animated and charismatic and super duper funny" because women love that. I know that most women do, but no way I'm completely changing my personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.in the past I thought so, but It's gotten so bad that I do blame women - or better said - they have the power to change things for the the better, and for themselves. they are actively "shooting themselves in the foot" with their poor dating choices, with zero accountability. any group that has zero accountability will abuse power and make incorrect decisions. I strongly think women are there now. but you can't say that otherwise you are a "MiSOgyNIst" . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:38 PM |
| – | How are men supposed to meet women?This. as soon who actually gets approached by women when going out, I still get shot down 90% of the time. its part of the damn game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.Women are not looking at looks, marketing, or charisma. Sorry I just spit out my coffee. this is untrue, and you absolutely know it. pains me when people spread such false information. These three things are the catalyst that starts every single relationship. the necessary evils. the things women say aren't important but. are. the. most. important. telling me this like telling me that most people don't like the taste of chocolate. that pizza is disgusting. that money doesn't buy some happiness. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 07:52 PM |
| – | How are men supposed to meet women?Don't listen to these women that tell you not to approach outside of OLD (social circle/hobbies/bars/even coffee shops). a lot of women do want to be approached. use your social awareness and "Read the Room", and approach/chat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 02:23 PM |
| 40 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholeswomen date men who exude real, unbridled, natural confidence, something that is very hard to fake and is way more prevalent in "assholes", and in fact go against the temperement of most nice and "good" guys. I think that is the true issue here - being the best of both worlds (having natural confidence that women love and being a "good guy") is a delicate balance and is rare, especially in younger men - therefore women typically "go after" assholes. Ill use my anectodal experience - My temperment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who would make better long term partners because they are no good at thatProblem is “don’t find attractive” for women today is one out of 100 men, often the same men, and often times a knee jerk response based on their inflated egos. When you’re 75 and alone dying of cancer on your death bed with no partner to help you or family around you’re going to regret rejecting all the men that were 5 foot 11 instead of 6 feet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.your argument make zero sense in the face of probabilistic facts. just stop. give up. again, you are living in a world of delusion. a 6 foot 2 man will be more attractive than a 5 foot 5 man to 99% of women. if exceptions don't make the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:39 PM |
| 1 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.again, this only works if you are self-sabotoging. stop with these broad panaceas. neediness drives people away - yes. but non-neediness itself is not attractive. you need something else to hook on to. example: true MGTOWs are as non-needy as you can get it. they literally have sworn off women. A lot of them are not attractive women by being "non-needy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.jesus christ are you blind? if it was objective, why do certain men with certain features get swiped 10-20X versus other men? why are models selected for siimlar face ratios? why do women love tall men? stop living in delusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.for the most part they are in dating (real life is a different story - actually think a lot of women are more active than most men in todays age). men have to take most of the initiative - they have to set up dates, reach out, make the first move, and carry the burden of havint to talk to mutiple women until one accepts him. of course women put a lot effort into their appearance, get ready, etc, but its a minor role compared to what most men have to do. women are relatively passive and pick men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 10:21 PM |
| 2 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.It's alot more efficient for me to meet people online. real life avenues are not efficient at all, at least where I live. I don't want to improve? how much improvement do you need? I make more than enough money, interested hobbies, shower, personal trainer, have a solid group of friends/know how to talk etc blah blah blah. It's not self improvement. its about gamification and logistics. at least in the online dating realm. you can be the perfect guy for a girl, but that will not be known unless … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 08:02 PM |
| 1 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.I don't know man, its never really helped me a ton. sure, its helped me not fuck things up, but it hasn't helped me stand out versus other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 07:23 PM |
| 4 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.well, the point of getting to know them is to see if I like them. but the effort required to get to know them is so great you have to gamify half the shit just to get a chance to get to know her, because 20+ other men are vying for her attention. *yes, I go after more attractive/successful women, so they are desired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 07:05 PM |
| 3 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.inner game is not some panacea, and only helps if you are self-sabatoging your interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 07:03 PM |
| 3 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.let me guess, you're a women. therefore, you have no clue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 06:56 PM |
| 2 | The gamification of the dating marketplace - the nature of women and brutally competitive landspace requires constant adjustment/change in strategy (even micro) to appeal to this dynamic. This results in loss of authenticity/natural progression of things.It has to be done in a way that seems natural is the key (which I'd argue is contradictory to it's very nature). I think the issue that the "let chemistry develop" path is dependent on opportunities to let that develop. since women have so many options it's hard to get an opportunity to let it develop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 01:22 PM |
| 11 | Women totally care about personality more than looks and dig guys who are decent and cool. But here's the twist – they kinda suck at reading character.So much This. people also forget the interaction between looks and personality. she is attracted to your looks - suddenly you can flirt! suddenly you have a "connection" with her. wow. she isn't attracted to your looks - "I'm talking confidently/being my best self but she isn't responding..it must be my poor gameeeee" Looks not mattering is one of the biggest lies ever told. and its finally being widely accepted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 07:28 PM |
| 7 | Many of the problems in the dating landscape can be attributed to a lack of viable social venues for young people.who gives a flying fuck what's acceptable or not, as long as you aren't harming or malicous. when you're 35 and single becuase you never took risky opportunties to approach women over time because you were worried what's acceptable or not, and could of met plenty of women that were probably fine with it, you'll be kicking yourself. if you see a women, talk to her. as long as you aren't creepy or you read the room you'll be fine and no one will care 10 years from now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 07:06 PM |
| 2 | The standard rejections of "no spark, not enough chemistry and not feeling it" is just a nicety of 'I didn't find you sexually attractive.'This. although I'd say its more the exception that the rule - therefore OP's post in general applies, at least in my situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Women: What is a high-value man?It’s common sense. No expertise needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 12:40 AM |
| -1 | Women: What is a high-value man?Here we go with the “eVerYEE womAn has diFFERENT tyPes” tropes. There is far far more commonalities than differences in the men most women pursue when it comes to physical/confidence traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Women: What is a high-value man?Reminder that every single response here is predicated upon "is he attractive/charming/charismatic" enough. The irony is that eliminates such a high percentage of men that it's not even worth mentioning the actual things women state on here like "intelligence/caring/honesty/humor/etc" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Women Should find Smarter ways of finding men they're overall attracted to for commitmentI've always posited that if women treated dating like men do they've absolutely DESTROY it, and it grounds for why I think dating is far, far, FAR easier for women. take an overweight women. have her hit in the gym, in a year she can have a nice ass, legs, from lifting. she'll automatically be attractive to 90% of men. that's just looks. throw on a dress - suddenly she is more attractive. thrown in just a tiny bit of charm -she stands out amongst most other women. she doesnt' even have to have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Men aging like fine wine is a myth and women "hitting the wall" is overstatedAlthough I agree that most young twenties women will not date men in their 30's, staying that its "Gross" and that it "rarely happens" or only mentally ill women do this is stupid. Again, it really really REALLY depends on the women and situation. Take a guy who for reason hits is physical peak in his mid thirties - so he is on similar playing field as young guys in their twenties. he's ripped, he still has all hair, he is showing minimal signs of aging. he gets mistaken for being in this mid to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 06:36 PM |
| 12 | What do you think was the biggest influence in your life that led you to taking your pill?75% black pill and 25% red pill The biggest thing was hearing from bluepillars about how "personality/confidence/etc is KEY and is what matters", only to see good looking men with -personalities dry as stale bread, little intelligence, and having also insecure/ clingy qualities that red pillers say KILL ATTRACTIOIN that got attention from a lot of women just because they were hot" Also, getting fairly jacked and have a mini glow up, and watching women breaking their rules and wanting to be fucke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of men believe they will get sexier with age?I've been in a constant conundrum most of my life - I have an "extreme" baby face - especially in my twenties. as a result, the women that liked me were often 10+ years younger. women my age though I was way too young. Now that I'm in my almost late thirties, most women in their thirties AND upper twenties still think I'm "too young", at least lookswise. Here's a weird thing I notice- the women who have crushes on me and ones who I end up catching looking at me when I'm out are usually in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.could very well be - and something for me to think about. however, I do know that a lot of women (especially younger ones) seem to fall prey to these psychological forces. men also do it as well -so I'm not exluding them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:00 PM |
| 1 | How important is fitness in finding your ideal partner?I have an interesting take - it's a big big "nice to have", as I'm also heavily in to fitness (physique competitor) and lifting. thus, we would have something in common to share - in terms of topics / diets / and going to the gym together. however, I've legit never dated a women who is heavily into a fitness longer than a few dates - and I'm genuinely not sure why. Also, I'm a very rare instance where I don't think I've ever been with a a women who is in better shape than me- not saying that to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 11:38 AM |
| 9 | Women don't hate nice guys because they storm off after being rejected, women hate them because they create a secret, transactional relationship without the woman's consent.eh not exactly. this is a VERY controversial opinion, but I think that actual nice/good guys are inherently LESS attractive to women - attractive or not attractive. why? the act of being good/nice (even in a guinuine way) requires some sort of stability and good communication/transparency. We know that women are attracted to men they "can't have" or "can't figure out", as this produces anxiety that is miscontrued for attraction. A man how is good/nice will often communicate his desires, be more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Dating advice for menI've always posited that the main internal drive for feminism (although most are unaware) is rooted in the need to maximize resource extraction (which is linked to the biological drive to ensure stability/community for offpsring) Resources in the form of: Money, Time, Validation (Attention), Energy, Taking over Spaces and making them gynocentric oriented. While the male mind is more focused on action and efficiency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Have you ever been caught by an unexplainable long dry spell despite not changing or doing anything different?Yes, slept with 15 women in a 7 month span, then zero for 5 months after (still in the dry spell). I'm still going out as much as I did before, still using apps - but I did notice It started around summertime when I started getting tanner and more aged (happens with sun). I look like a super tan mexican laborer in the summer, and exotic (like spanish) in the winter. the dry spell started when I started getting tanner, along with indicators of interest pretty much going to zero as well. proves wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Dating is much easier than most men make it for themselves, and they are misguided in their pursuits if they value a long-term relationshipThis. your "masculinity/character/etc" doesn't mean jack shit if you don't pass the initital looks/image test. And we know today that women know this instantly the bar for the threshold is higher than ever. It takes two to tango. The difference a "great connection" and "flowing conversation" is whether the women is attracted to you enough to LET THAT HAPPEN. If I'm a womens' type, suddenly flirting becomes easier. she makes it so the "dance" is easy. If I'm not, I can have a ton in common with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesThis exactly - relates well to sunk cost fallacy (top comment). I've gotten away with repeated poor behavior in a relationship that would immediately get me axed if I had been dating the women for a few weeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 12:59 PM |
| 6 | “ women only want men who other women want” is projection.nope. its an actual instinctive mechanism that is hardwired into women. women literally feel MORE instant attraction for a man if he is with another women - or even taken. I've seen it and experienced it more times than I can count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:22 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?no she's not. there are plenty of men on her level who would be happy to commit to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 04:32 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?your third poing is something that needs to be highlighed more. there are actual good guys that women say they want that are struggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 01:27 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?Oh boy. I’m salivating at this. 1) cute/attractive women between the ages of 18-35 are, by far, the most privileged class of people in terms of dating. It’s like comparing a billionaire to a middle class person. The power they command by their looks alone is insane. 2) Women have the most power to change the shitty state of modern dating today. The solution is painfully simple: once you find a man who has similar values, and you are at least somewhat physically attracted to him, focus on him ONL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 03:50 AM |
| 5 | The friendzone doesn't exist - Many relationships start between friendsThe difference between friendzone and not friendzone is physical attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 07:52 PM |
| 12 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuitywomen seem to tell men that jealousy about her past is a sign of insecurity/etc. but my experiences with how VISCERAL this feeling is when I get it, makes me question that notion, and makes me think its actual instinctual in most men. I remember my first girlfriend came across as sweet/innocent/conversative - we waited 9 months to have sex (I was 18). One day I found out she had slept with a guy in high school when she was 15, after a short time, and it literally felt like someone had stuck a kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 03:17 AM |
| 3 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.here's the thing- I had hoped more women would pick the second, but it seems like a lot of women are picking the first - It's incredibly dissapointing. good for you for seeing through that. I've sensed women rejecting me because I'm "only an engineer" (even though I make 160k a year) when they were "managers", a few reject me for living in a modest house in the suburb versus a "cool hip condo". etc. its pretty bad sad out there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 10:23 PM |
| 0 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.Women would NOT “all give these men a chance”. Far from it. You don’t live in our reality. Even if you are well put together, there is still only a small chance a women will give you a chance. That is common knowledge amongst men. And it’s fine - most men are aware of this and accept it as part of the game. Facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.I did not know you are a woman - that makes things far, far easier when putting yourself out there. I definetely agree - if you have those qualities as a woman and you put yourself out there (e.g in social situations where single men you like exist), it's only a matter of time before find someone, since men will "flock" to you with the only effort you putting in is being present. Being a man is completely different. If we have those qualities and "put ourselves out there", we have to be very pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.because you are correct - there are plenty of average men in relationship. but there are also an ever growing number of average men who can't find their equal. its growing massively. If you're man living in a large city that was unable to find someone via social circle/ hobbies etc., there is a very high likelihood you will struggle to find your reasonable partner. my personal example - finding a women as in good shape, financially independent, confident, interesting hobbies as myself is nearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.same as you - can get dates easily and sleep around/etc because I'm apparentely good looking (I really don't think so, but the evidence suggests otherwise). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.Not True at All, a lot of "good quality" men are struggling nowadays, because they lack more "superficial" characteristics that are now prioritized (looks, social media, game), and fail to attract women within their own league. you severely underestimate the amount of men who are nice, humble, reasonably confident, takes care of himself physically, mentally, and has interesting hobbies, financially secure who struggle to attract women within their league nowadays. There are constant posts on red… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 04:27 PM |
| 16 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.Agreed - changing your mindset from a one of "romantic monogomy 1:1" to "dating is a supply and demand system, these inputs work to creates these outputs" and improving these things (which will arguably also improve your life outside of dating. that being said, the post was about how it is harder now to pull yourself out, and even harder to achieve the level of "success" in the modern dating age in non-rural locations. Also, you forgot that women typically only care about external manifestation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Self Improvment Mega Thread WEEKLY DISCUSSION TOPICweighted Dips (buy a belt with chain) weighed push ups (place weight on back) flys with dumbells or cables - go wide, slow use the 50lb dumbelss but change the tempo to increase tension (a lot slower) lots of ways to increase chest strength without heavy weights I started off with the 40's x 10, now up to 110x8 on flat dumbells, and lot of htat is NOT db work, but the work above youll get there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 07:12 PM |
| – | CMV: social competence is more important than looks when trying to be attractive to womenEh, I know plenty of "socially competent" men who struggle to get dates, even put together ones (good career, dress well, friends, passions, etc). Why? You need to pass look filter, period. and the filter is HIGH if you are dating beyond your social circle (which let's be honest, a lot of men fall into now). Also - A person can be socially competent and still not have the "correct" social skills to attract women. they are suprisingly different. this is what most people don't realize. When I thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to what is said here, most guys who struggle with women do need to work on themselvesyes - exactly - it's hard. if it was easy no one would be complaining about it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Contrary to what is said here, most guys who struggle with women do need to work on themselvesWell, it depends on the definition of "Struggle". Struggle to get attraction from women? Struggle to get dates? Struggle to get second/third dates? Struggle to get into relationships? What are you standards? are there actually women who are interested in you that you reject? I "struggle" to get into relationships - but I don't have an issue getting dates, attracting women, or getting sex. finding someone whom I'm attracted to who is also attracted to me and is in the right place/time for a relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:29 PM |
| 3 | When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of musclethe amount of effort to achieve a body that elicits arousal from the opposite sex (given all other things equal) is 10X for men versus women. Men: Hit the gym 3-5x a week all muscle groups for 2 years minimum to add 20-30lbs muscle bass, diet down. make sure you hit everbody part Women: Do Squats and Abs 3x a week for 6 months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 02:53 PM |
| 6 | Outside of dating apps, how are you supposed to start a relationship?Basic Approach: Do things you love where you meet new people. Be social. Friendly. Get to know everyone and if you are a confident, social, friendly person it's likely you'll fin da single women that is interested in you. Upside: This is already aligned with what you like to do, so extra work is minimal Downside: If you love to go heavy metal shows, coding boot camps, or a mostly solo activity, you are pretty much F'd. Also only works if there are enough single women around. Proactive Approach (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 02:03 AM |
| 6 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?Why do your decisions change so much about a particular guy? Why are you planning on a future with a guy and saying you like him one minute, and then the next day your feelings completely Change, with nothing else changing? I think men do the same thing, but in a manipulative way. I think women actually sincerely believe they like a guy one second and the next sincerely believe they don’t, with nothing changing. I’m to the point where I don’t trust anything a women says about her feelings unless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 11:44 PM |
| – | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.wrong. it's because women have vocalized their distaste for men - complaining that there are no good men, men are not enough, while scoffing at any real frustrations we have about the dating space. this affects a lot of men and they will remember it. it has little to do with the actual act of fucking and moreso "you don't give shit about us, so we don't give a shit about you, go find a way to change that tire yourself" now, everyone deserves some basic decency, but it stops at that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 5 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.not so much anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 04:18 PM |
| 9 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.yup, men will stop "coming to the rescue" to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 02:30 PM |
| 35 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.This is the simplest answer. The unreliance on men due to womens' indepedence means the factors they choose in men have scoped to "girls just want to have fun" things. Men have it wrong. It's not exactly that womens' expectations are too high (Although they are), it's that their expectations are DIFFERENT now. Women want a thrilling, emotional, romance novel, exciting experience when it comes to selecting men now. real long term qualities are out the window, at least for the initial filter to da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 02:28 PM |
| 21 | CMV : As a man the best strategy to achieve success in dating is to approach it as one big joke“hes great but for some reason im not excited about him” exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 02:20 PM |
| 45 | CMV : As a man the best strategy to achieve success in dating is to approach it as one big jokehere's the problem. in today's modern dating age, just coming off as WANTING A RELATIONSHIP, even if you are happy being single and have your "shit" together also doesn't really work. why? because women confuse anxiety with attraction and lack of anxiety with "there i just no spark". If you communicate to a modern women today that you are looking for a relationship with her, and that you are interested, it kills the anxiety. this is taken as "huh I'm just not attracted to him" by the modern wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 02:13 PM |
| 6 | Many men still clueless as to how to attract/date women, despite there being more information than ever on how to do so - why?It's like trying to find a job, but way WAY worse. It's like applying for jobs where employers say you all have all the qualiifications and ANY employer would be lucky to have you. But then for some reason you RARELY get interviewers. And you when you do get an interview the employer may tell you how AMAZING you are, and how HAPPY the employer is they finally found someone that is a good match, only to suddenly never get back to you. and it happens again and again and again. Oh, they never have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 09:46 PM |
| 27 | [CMV] Girls who participate in online dating are not to be taken seriously because they don't take guys seriously.This. the one consistent trend I've noticed in my dating life is that when I'm being intentional with dating (desiring to find a partner), women always seem to run, no matter how good the connection seems to be or no matter how invested she initially appears. However, when I'm in a period where I only want casual and honestly do not want a partner, they seem to want to lock me down and chase. This behavior rewards men who just want to fuck and use women and punishes men who actually want a relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 07:33 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugedit - I mean to say "overtly", not "overly". overtly - it's a "vibe" thing - how they move, how they walk, but also how they talk. exudes strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 03:08 PM |
| 17 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugWomen don't WANT evil people who treat them like shit. and "evil' and "treat like shit" is a bit of a stretch. A better way to put it is "women are vicseral aroused and attracted to men who display qualities that are more aligned with extreme confidence, risk taking, physical indicators of health like height/muscle, and are turned off or neutral to qualities such as agreeableness, niceness, transparency and communication". viscerally = instinctual/can't help it/etc. it's why you are hopelessly a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attractionNo. Even conveying interest from a confident frame will kill attraction for women. It’s because she “has you” and the chase is over. If you are looking for a serious relationship as a Man, you need to keep things mysterious. Source: been with 80+ women, 5 LTRs, it absolutely is necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attractioncertainly helps but is not required. it all comes down to having the mentaliy of hanging out, having a fun time, and hooking up in the first month. having multiple options does help from getting too attached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:51 PM |
| 4 | Women who take time to develop attraction/are demisexual/etc do fine in the dating world. Men in that same boat are just screwed.doesn't matter. women will respond to a man that makes a move and he will replace the current guy she likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attractionit's playing if yo uare genuinely interested in someone and hold back that information because you know it will drop her attraction for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 02:01 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attractionWomen operate in the present, based on emotion. True attachment from women happens slower than for men. You can have a great time with a women - and she will probably truly enjoy you in the present on the first few dates and have good emotions. However, once you are not with her, those emotions are not present and you need to make her think about you - wonder about you. How you do this is leaving uncertainty. Even if you confident in yourself and non-needy, removing all uncertainty means she is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 01:51 PM |
| 2 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.oh yeah - the women I became good friends with typically were into white guys - either the jocky type or just plain white guys. For reference, I look like a jock/bro but I'm NOT white (ethnic) - and I do know a lot of women where I live are very into the white baseball cap steretype. The thing is - I was never really into them either sexually - which is probably why we were able to become friends. Every relationship I've had started off immediately non-platonic. I've never (that I know of) had a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 01:44 PM |
| 10 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Great Response on the "red/greeny/yellow" theme. one thing i've noticed is that my experience (and others I know) seems to wildly differ from what I heard is that I have never had a women tell/hint that she found me "average" or not physicaly attractive and then suddenly as she got to know me she became more attracted to me. It never changed or moved the needle, no matter how well we got along / confident I was. I've had several occasions where I became good friends with women, who told me perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 04:14 PM |
| 14 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I love being extroverted/outgoing is automatically associated with having a "good personality" while being an introvert is labeled "boring". you can be an introvert that is confident and not an outwardly pump-up chest out person that talks like a comedian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:58 PM |
| 4 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.totally diferent thing. a lot of female friends don't have sex with men they were friends if they don't find them physicaly their type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:56 PM |
| 45 | Men are disingenuous in the dating marketHold back for some deep talk here. The reason why you are experiencing this? The increased efficiency of sexual partner access for both men and women (online dating apps, social media) has led to prioritization of short term instant gratification qualities when selecting partners which men have noticed, which has led to neccesary gamification of the dating market place by men. Long term qualities such as common values, common interests, honesty, communication responsibility, etc.- you know all t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 11:40 PM |
| 2 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.I think its because requirements are only half the puzzle. the other half is chemistry/etc. this is hard to find. the issue a lot of women have is that their "funnel" where they choose to date men is so restricted that they are limiting their chances, or they use a tool such as online dating that does not filter for chemistry and faciliates pickiness (due to over abundance). Let me flip it around from a man's perspective. Why are there so many men who meet and far exceed the basic requirements t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men assume a woman to be attractive, and are more forgiving of negative traits. Women assume men to be unattractive and try and find the cracks between all the positive traitsTBH, I wished men operated on similar dating principles for pickiness as women do. We could learn alot from their willingness to be selective. Jack Off to clear your mind. then, take a walk and REALLY think about the type of women that would make you happy. what does she look like? what does she do? how does she treat you? Does she want kids? Etc etc. Really envisioning it. And then fucking sticking with it when you meet women, and don't get guided by your dick. write it down on a piece of paper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:20 PM |
| – | How to know if you're "delusional" or if you just have high standards?Ask a close friend(s) you know WILL NOT BULLSHIT or sugar coat you for honest advice. you need to remove biases from your perception of your value. but also keep in mind that people do have different preferences. I've thought some women were "way of my league" and had friends comment that they were absolulely NOT. I've also NOT been attracted to women that were objectively out of my league as well. Also keep in mind that what you reasonable should be with based on what you have to offer differs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.ok you never mentioned location. location and environment DOES matter - but finding the right environments that works for men is not as easy at sounds (intersection between women that you are things in common with that are attracted to you that are ALSO single). the bar for "hot enough" is not low. It's pretty damn high from my experience. only 5-10% of men maket the cut, and this includes men who take care of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.I think men get fixated on girl because they simply don't have many options - even if they do approach/etc. I slightly disagree on the looks comment - I'd say you are correct about the other circumstances - but having the right looks/confidence/ability to connect with a women will push the "grey area" women into the "green area". I've been out with female friends and I know first hand that the reason why they will choose to keep chatting and contacting with you is #1) are you hot enough #2) do y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:50 PM |
| 1 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.that is what is so confusing to so many men. If the bar is "so low", and we "far exceed" this "low bar", why is it so incredibly difficult to find a women that has mutual attraction to you? now, even if you are a "good on paper", you won't be everyones' cup of tea. we understand that, and that applies to us as well (as long as we are trying to just F anything and are looking for an actual connection) - but it seems to me that men are far simpler, and that may be the difference here. if I (and al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:08 PM |
| 0 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.i actually do think there are more attractive women in the world than men. however, emotionally stable/competent I think it fairly equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 12:51 PM |
| 1 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.those aren't the only things women want - those are just things within your control that help your chances as a man. and the thing is, most men at their "bare minimum" aren't attractive to most women. improving themselves in those areas will drastically increase their chances. I also don't think you ahve to be ove 6/ripped/millionaire. you just have to work on improving some physical traits and being financially indepedent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 12:50 PM |
| 2 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.just showering and smeeling good is not enough for most men. jsut putting on a dress and makeup is enough for most women. add "shower, get well fitted clothes, workouit in the gym, gain a few inches in height, get a good hairstyle, be confident, be financial successful etc. etc". its more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 11:15 PM |
| 6 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.1: women rarely acknowledge this privilage and are completely unaware of it. they then go on to lambast men for "not being good enough". Imagine having a king in his castle yelling at a servent for not being good enough for society, telling him he's not productive as him, all the while he has to put 100X the effort as him. from mens' perspectives, our struggles are not only downplayed, we are told we are "not good enough", all the while womens' struggles get all the attention. men are opting out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 11:14 PM |
| 0 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.I literally was pointing out a generalization, so why are you arguing that it's a generalization? the more confident, attractive, financialy successful, emotionally intelligent you are, the higher your probability of finding THAT Person. much much much HIGHER. generalizations are generalizations for a reason, beceause they work. now I evaluate people on an individual level, but broadly generalizations are critical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 11:11 PM |
| 5 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.You completely missed my point. Completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:56 PM |
| 6 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.yes, yes I do think they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:24 PM |
| – | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.Fuck it, there. I've acknowledged it. Haha FINALLY. you did it out of rabid anger, typing furiously on your keyboard OMG WHY DO YOU MEN KEEP BRINGING THIS UP. its because ITS TRUE, you KNOW IT, but you NEVER admit. As to why you are all so resistant to something so self evident? No F'ing Clue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:23 PM |
| 18 | There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women.-Women have said thousands of times we don't care much about "muscle." I'm not sure how much more we have to say it. Hollywood's hottest women are simping over skinny ass dudes repeatedly women still care, but way less than what men think they do. and you are talking about hollywood, which is not in the normal realm of dating. status reigns supreme. Women in general like shy men FAR less than confident men. that one I completely disagree with. being shy/acting shy/not socially confident is one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:01 PM |
| 7 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.oh yeah, I bet some where. but a lot (that I eventually dated for a while) were stable and secure. Good for you, don't take that shit i would not say I "ghosted" - heres'a snapshot of how I would act then versus now: Before: great first few dates. end up having sex/fooling around. I leave her place, send her a text that I had a great time when I get home (or she does). then I just never texted after that. like clockwork, 5-7 days later they would reach out and want to see me again. I would say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 03:31 PM |
| 9 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.agreed, but also stupid. from my perspective, I can go on an app and get 100+ matches a week. I can go out and probably pick up a girl easily. so when I chose to spend time with someone that choice is deliberate and not out of lack of abundance. so when I spend time with a women, after I've filtered her and selected her, and picked time out of my busy schedule, and after a few dates I see something in her I personally like, I'm not going to fuck around. I know what I want and go after it and if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 11:43 AM |
| 3 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.True, but the issue here is that this also works on women are how secure/confident and good. thus, it's not a matter of flitering how immature women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 11:38 AM |
| 7 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.look. in the end men are going to do what works. if we find out that acting emotionally available turns off the vast majority of women, we are going to tweak the approach. why the hell would anyone waste their time? and most people cannot regulate their emotions, both men and women. that shit is hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 11:37 AM |
| – | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.They want you emotionally available for them, not for you. And that really tells you all you need to know about it. elaborate more on this. agreed on all other points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 10:29 AM |
| 9 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.I dont know they seem to ironically respond to THE SAME THING. ages from 25-38. I honestly think its biologically based (not caused by trauma/childhood issues/etc), and more unique to women vs men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 10:28 AM |
| 7 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.yeah, I think I am "front loading" the serious part too early. maybe I need to keep the "hookup vibes" from my early dating days to the first few weeks/month and then I can more slowly transition into more emotional availability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Being Emotionally Available and a Good Communicator is Reduces the Chance for Sustained Attraction for Men Seeking a Relationship.lol. It's 3am where I am. blame it on my lack of sleep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 09:38 AM |
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter