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| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionAll snark no substance, Boring | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 08:57 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThat's cool for them. My girlfriend is definitely "mine". Not in the sense that I legally own and control her, but in the sense that if she behaves in a way that doesnt demonstrate undying loyalty to me, shes instantly gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 08:24 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionAnd a dumped my last girlfriend because I realized she enjoyed dressing wearing revealing clothing and going out to parties without me. She even admitted during sex that she liked the attention and wanted me to "degrade" her for it. No amount of women pleading that it's "for them" will erase the visceral experience of my girlfriend admitting this directly to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:46 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI think it's messed up that your partner wants to incite reproductive jealousy in other men. That's the type of thing that men have killed for in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:34 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionGuess what? Men do this too, at least some of us. When I step out of the shower, freshly shaved, especially after a workout, I love staring at myself in the mirror. I think I look handsome. So on that level I can understand what you are talking about BUT I only feel handsome because I have an idea of what "handsome" looks like: lean muscle mass, sharp jaw line, well groomed facial hair, piercing eyes. I only know what looks attractive from having seen examples of what millions and millions of ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:22 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionMost of the 30-40 year olds on this subreddit seem to be none the wiser than us 20 somethings. A lot of lingering emotional trauma, failed relationships, bitterness towards the other gender, and an insistence that men and women are the same and should adhere to the same standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:17 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionDo you dislike your father? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:14 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionGuys don't get horny from hair and makeup. They get horny from tits and ass. I'm talking about clothing that emphasizes the latter. Im sure you do enjoy looking in the mirror for yourself, in the same way that I enjoy looking in the mirror when my face is nicely groomed. But I doubt you are wearing little black see thru dresses and stockings to chill at home | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:00 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThere's a distinct yet subtle difference between between what you find attractive vs what you find sexy. A cute, quiet girl who has a natural look and dresses modestly is the most attractive archetype to me. It's the aesthetic I find most appealing overall. But my dick doesn't get hard when I see this. I might get hornier if I see a girl dressed in slutty clothes, but overall I find this less attractive than the more modest girl. I would be much more likely to date or pursue the first girl, even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:54 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNo are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:51 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionJust curious, why do you consider this a superior alternative to a woman who dresses sexy at home but modestly outside? What do you get from showing her off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:51 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhat do you mean? A handful of women in this thread agree with me, on top of the majority of men. The majority of women are opposed to my views, but thats what I expected would happen. Luckily, something is not judged on its correctness by the amount of people who agree with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:49 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionVery typical of this sub. I have already been labelled as misogynist, toddler and a fool. I did not even think my post was particularly inflammatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:47 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionIt depends on what the guy's doing. A lot of guys DO make stylistic choices to impress women you see lately a lot of guys try to adopt the "fboy" aesthetic with the eyebrow slit, black nail polish and cross earrings. Guys didnt commonly look like that 10 years ago. It became a popular look because its the aesthetic the majority of women on tiktok and social media found attractive 5 years ago, and guys have adapted as a result. Even the famous tiktok perm haircut wasnt commonplace 5 years ago. Al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:44 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionExactly. And I get a massive ego boost anytime a hot chick matches with me on Tinder. Both genders get a confidence buff when attractive members of the opposite sex show you some sort of appreciation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:40 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWith your mindset, I would be best suited as a misogynist. Life is a power acquisition right? Since women are easier to control over men, being misogynistic and taking advantage of women would accrue me as much power as possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:38 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhat if I told you that I think rapists should be beaten to death, but simultaneously I still think women should dress modestly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:34 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI have made over 50 replies in this thread of over 300. Be more specific | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:32 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhat about attractive women who don't seek attention? Why do you even correlate the two qualities, attention seeking and attractiveness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:32 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThat's a very rare exception that I will concede on. I imagine when pole dancing women like to dress like strippers to imitate the full experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:31 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionFor the majority of people I agree. I personally consider it cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:30 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThis isn't narcissism lad. This took hard work in therapy to finally get here. It sounds like you are trying to overcorrect years of low confidence with an overabundance of pride. Which is fine but making statements like "i am hot af, gorgeous, delicious!" makes you seem very narcissistic. If you don't care how you come across on the internet, then you can safely ignore me. For what its worth Im sorry about your dad, for me my "bad parent" was my mom and it definitely impacts my view on women to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:29 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionDid I say anything about dating apps or men being exploited in my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:18 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attention1)…. How is this a debate? You’ve had women tell their reasons (and gasp! Would you believe that they all have different reasons! Some for men. Some for themselves. Some for their friends) and you’ve patently ignored them. So if you ignore everything women say, then how can we debate you? You clearly have the mind of a toddler. And everything is for you and you alone are correct. So no debating will make a squat bit of difference nor happen. First, I did not ignore any woman's opinion. There is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:15 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI appreciate your reply, especially as a woman who doesn't agree with most red pill philosophy. A lot of women have parroted in this thread that they receive the same amount of attention regardless of whether or not they wear something sexy or something modest. Do you agree with these ladies or do you think they are exaggerating this claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:10 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionIt's difficult to have a rational conversation with someone when they begin the first two sentences insulting you. Do you wanna rewrite it in a more neutral way rather than calling me a fool or accusing me of misogyny? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:07 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNo I am definitely receiving hostility. Not direct hostility, but the passive aggressive "umm who do you think you are dude?" type of hostility. It's very easy to read tone through text. It's easy to tell I've rubbed a lot of women the wrong way with this post by the manner in which they convey themselves. Everything is relative. If you had never received a compliment from a man in your life, and suddenly Drake was hitting on you, it would feel like gold. in the same way if you never had Mcdonal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:04 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionLet me reiterate. When I say "for men" I am NOT talking about me specifically it could just be the top 5-10 best looking dudes in a club who a woman is trying to look sexy for. And even then, it doesnt explicitly mean shes trying to fuck or date any of them. It can literally be just for the ego boost that people universally get from attractive people hitting on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:58 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou sound like a sociopath | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:56 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThis isn't meant to be derogatory, but your partner sounds like a cuck. It would be one thing if he wanted you to dress sexier for him. The fact that he explicitly wants you to look sexy in front of other guys is a little strange to me. Saying it's to make other guys jealous sounds like a cope to me. When I see a guy with a girlfriend who dresses provocatively or does OnlyFans my reaction is never "damn bros lucky he found a baddie" it's more like "poor guy doesnt know what hes getting into" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:55 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionHow many countries in the Middle East have you personally travelled to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:51 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI'm not worried about "getting dumped". Being single is better than being in a relationship with a woman who doesn't listen to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:50 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionwhat does that mean exactly You are uncomfortable with men finding you attractive? you are shy? or you are worried men might judge your body? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:49 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:48 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThey're competing for the attention of the most attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:48 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou sound very narcissistic. You also have clearly had one or several bad relationships in the past, and now harbour resentment for men in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:48 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI have to admit, I'm somewhat surprised at the hostility women are responding to this post with. You all seem to be responding with some variation of "This guy thinks I dress myself for him? How dare he! I do things for myself and my happiness only. I don't care what men think of me!" This isn't a male ego thing. I never said women dress "for me"; when I see a woman in a sexy dress I don't think "wow she wore that sexy outfit just for me" I'm literally just saying women sometimes enjoy the atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:46 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionAgain why do you care? I care because if I'm committed to a girl, she shouldn't chase after the attention of other men. She should only want to look sexy for me (and herself if that's important to her) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:39 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionHaving worn a hijab for six months, YES, they do. They absolutely fucking do. The exact same kind of attention. Men are men are men are men. It was never more respectful or more respectful of boundaries. It was exactly the same as when I've got on booty shorts and a summer tank top. I actually got way more attention from dudes. I need more details. Are you Muslim? What country are you from, what ethnicity are you? It seems extremely weird that a Western woman would suddenly pick up a hijab for 6… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:36 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionHow about we upload our tinder screenshots, and see which one of us has the most/hottest matches? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:29 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionOfc women wear clothes that are appealing to men, it's just that it may not be on a conscious level You are correct. It is subconscious for most women. Most women don't consciously dress with the mindset of "let me dress sexy so I can seduce a guy" and so they dismiss the entirety of the post. In their minds they are just wearing these things to "feel good" but they don't look at the underlying reasons why they feel good. It's because at one point, they received positive attention from wearing r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:28 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI actually have a personal experience that revealed this to me. I am happy to share if you genuinely want to listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:22 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionBlanket statements should be considered just that: blanket statements. They are generalizations meant to give as close an approximation to reality as possible. If I said "men like boobs" it would be a blanket statement, but nobody would complain because most people know what I mean. As far as making friends, this is the last place I would go to try and make buddies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:21 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionIt sounds like you agree with me but I'm not quite sure. Are you saying you would like to wear revealing clothing, but you're uncomfortable with your body? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:17 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou wanna know why? Because generally, women enjoy the privilege and freedom of being able to act single while being in a relationship. They want the freedoms they had from the single life, with the comfort of having a safe guy at home who isn't going to leave them. When a man starts imposing standards and expectations into the relationship, suddenly she feels like she has less freedom which most women dislike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:11 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI don't care what women do, I care what my woman does. If I have a girlfriend, she shouldn't feel the need to show off her body to other guys for attention and validation. I see some women who have boyfriends post nudes to Reddit for compliments, and that shit blows my mind how any guy would allow his partner to do tht. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:08 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI never used the word 'good' except to respond to someone else who lumped the two adjectives together. To me someone saying they "feel good about how they look" and someone who "feels sexy" are two completely different meanings. As far as your examples: First of all, not all of the examples you gave are even universally disliked. I know some guys aren't into tattoos, but others are. The same goes for dyed hair and gaudy piercings, many guys will be turned off but some really like it. I don't kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:03 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou can be beautiful and find yourself hideous. You can also be hideous and find yourself beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:54 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThere is a difference between trying to attract a man vs enjoying the attention of men I'm sure the majority of women do not hook up with a guy when they go out looking sexy on a Friday night. It doesn't mean they don't enjoy the attention, compliments and free drinks from guys hitting on them all night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:30 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionFirst of all I think we need to compartmentalise "feeling good" vs "feeling sexy". Clothing and style can make you feel good for a myriad of reasons. A work uniform can make you feel more professional and better suited to do your job. Tattoos can reflect your personal style or something meaningful to you. You can wear clothes from different eras because you simply appreciate the visual aesthetic of them. "Dressing sexy" at least in the context of this post, is wearing clothes designed to be sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:27 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWomen don't exist to make men feel secure and safe from competition. Once you're locked in with someone, the competition should be over. I shouldn't feel like I'm constantly competing with every guy to keep a partner I already have. If a woman is in a relationship but does things to "keep her options open" that means subconsciously she thinks she could do better than the man she is presently with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:05 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionGod...they don't do it for every man out there, they do it in the hopes of attracting a man they like. Honestly, it actually is for every man... though they like the attention, not the harassment. as u/Nihi1986 pointed out, women dress for men. But women are actually physically unattracted to the majority of men. So really it is more accurate to say they are dressing up for the small handful of potential men they do like. Either that, or they understand dressing in that way gives them more power… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:03 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI am 23, so by your parameters you are correct. I don't see that as a problem though. To be honest, I think it's much weirder for a 30+ year old to be on this subreddit. At a certain age you would think you have this stuff figured out. At least for young people we can justify being on forums like this as we are still navigating social dynamics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 04:00 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionIm 23, so pretty much all of my view on women is based on Gen Z women which I agree are a little different than older generations primarily due to the effect of the Internet. So I cant speak as to what was normal or acceptable among older generations of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:58 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThat's a different conversation. You can be frustrated that guys have too rigid standards over what's acceptable clothing. There is no objective line to be drawn for what constitutes provocative. I personally think women look really sexy in leggings but I understand women wear leggings primarily because they're comfortable, not necessarily to show off. However, there are also categories of clothes that women wear not just for comfort, but specifically because it makes their body look sexier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:57 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI've been hit on in baggy jeans and an oversized shirt on many occasions so it makes absolutely fuck all difference. So why shouldn't we just wear whatever the fuck we want. It's very disingenuous when women make claims like this. So because you've been hit on a few times in sweatpants, you think what you wear has no bearing on the men that approach you? You think a woman covered head to toe in a hijab receives the same type of attention as a girl who walks around in booty shorts and a low cut s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:52 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNot at all. The biggest simps are often liberal men who call other men "incels " or 'insecure" for being possessive over their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:50 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou did a lot of mental gymnastics there. You are indirectly claiming that Muslims, due to their inability to control men of other tribes, have decided out of frustration to control their own women for a semblance of power. That is a ridiculous unfounded assertion that you provided no evidence for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:49 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionTell me then. Why does wearing a revealing outfit make a woman feel good and sexy, in your mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:44 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI didn't say that. Way to choose the most unflattering interpretation for my comment. What I'm saying is it only takes one good experience to heal from a plethora of negative experiences. For example, if you had only bad experiences throughout your life with a particular race, and then met one person of that race who was cool, it would ease your previous prejudices because you have a positive experience to mitigate a lot of the negative experiences. I don't know anything about anorexia, but I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:40 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionSaying "women enjoy male attention" is not a 'male ego' belief. You're interpreting it as if we're saying "look at you woman, so desperate to please us men. Pathetic". It's not like that at all. We're simply saying if women didn't want cat calling, compliments, or staring, they would dress in a manner that avoids this from happening as much as possible. When a woman goes out dressed 'slutty' it's because whether knowingly or subconsciously she wants to present in a way that is sexually attractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:32 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionSo you commented to tell me I spent too much energy on my post? Lool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:24 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNot really. Women at bridal showers usually wear long dresses, usually very tasteful. Have you seen what some gen Z girls wear on a night out? Some of those outfits are more like lingerie than actual clothes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:23 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNo one has ever healed from bullying or abusive people and loved themselves. Nobody is saying you can't heal from bullying. 100 people could've bullied you for your appearance, and it only takes 1 person to tell you that you're beautiful for you to heal. But without receiving some sort of external validation, even if it's just one person, you won't magically think of yourself to be attractive if all of the feedback you received said the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:18 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI appreciate your contributions to the thread brother. I'm afraid you are wasting your time. Rather than analysing the contents of your comments from a logical deductive perspective, they will simply dismiss your entire point with "Imagine getting mad at this". This woman you're responding to isn't actually interested in getting to the underlying truth. She has in her ego "how dare men think Im doing something to please them?" which is not a logical conclusion, but rather an emotional aversion t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:14 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionDon't dilute the conversation by calling it "attractive". "Attractive" "sexy" "revealing" all have different connotations. You can dress attractive in a way that is modest and tasteful and leaves room to the imagination. My post is specifically about dressing sexy/slutty/promiscuously/provocatively. Women will wear cute outfits at home yes but they dont wear the tiny dresses and see thru tops that they wear out to the club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:10 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThank you. This guy seems to fail to realize that you can dress nice in a tasteful way for both genders. My post wasn't about simply dressing nice, which could be a modest long dress that covers everything. My point was about clothes which specifically show off your body in a salacious way. Completely different. A more apt male equivalent would be a ripped guy wearing tiny gym shorts and nothing else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:07 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWearing clothes is cheating now, because of course it is. What constitutes cheating depends on the agreed upon terms of the relationship. If myself and my wife have an understanding that her dressing promiscuously is unacceptable, and then she does it anyway, it's cheating. For other relationships that don't have this expectation, it wouldn't be cheating. We've seen what the modest clothing culture looks like and the type of weak dudes that society cultivates, no thanks. Really? You think Musl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:04 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionYou can't separate your self worth from how others perceive you. If everyone in the world thought you were butt ugly, and you had only ever received negative feedback about your appearance in your life, you would naturally think you are ugly. You can't magically conjure up self worth without the feedback of others. To suggest you can completely manifest self esteem without a reference to compare it to is ludicrous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 03:01 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThe easier option would just be to listen to women when they explain why they like dressing the way they do. It's very naive of you to automatically listen to what women say. Women's words often contradict their actions. For example, many women will say they just want a good man, but then if you examine their dating history it's plentiful with fuckboys, cheaters and assholes. Women will say things like "I wish I could find a guy like you" but if they really wanted a guy like you, they would date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:55 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionIt's also frequently not the opposite and in fact the same, dressing attractively at home AND when going out. Which, you'll recall, was your lead excuse as to why women couldn't possibly be dressing nice for themselves. Are you serious? You think women chill at home in the same outfit they go to the club in? You realize most women prefer wearing comfy clothes at home like a hoodie and leggings? Very few women walk around their homes everyday in a full face of makeup and a sexy little black dress… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:50 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionLet's unpack your comment a bit. What does it mean to "feel good or sexy"? Boosted confidence, right? You only get that confidence from having received validation from other people (generally men) in the past. Once 100 guys tell you that you look sexy while wearing a certain dress, that validation is locked in your brain, and suddenly every time you wear a sexy dress you now feel super confident. If you lived off the grid in the middle of the woods with no one around you wouldn't "feel good or s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:45 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionI think there's a difference if your man is present or not while you look hot. If he's standing next to you with his arm around you, then it's more like "look whats mine" but if you go out wearing something revealing when he's not there it's like, who are you trying to appeal to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:40 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionNot only do women dress in attractive clothes even when at home, women will frequently walk around in underwear or completely nude when home alone. Not everything is about you. So then why do they also dress in attractive clothes outside of the home? They could wear sexy clothes at home 24/7, and wear conservative clothes when they go out. Like you said, if it's wasnt for me or other men, they would have no desire to wear the same type of revealing outfits outside the house. Only it's usually th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:39 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWe can argue over the parameters of what constitutes dressing provocatively, but first we must agree that it is something that exists, and that it is done at least in part to appeal to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:33 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhen I’ve dressed for myself or the ladies, I’ve always worn long flowy skirts and really modest stuff that makes me feel pretty and confident. This is exactly my point. Women do dress for each other, but it's generally to show off style, make up ability, and has a holistically more "beautiful" aesthetic. When a woman dresses in revealing clothes where the main point of the outfit is solely to emphasise her bodies, that's where it crosses into dressing for male attention territory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:32 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionThat's effectively the same thing. They know what men like and attempt to appeal to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:29 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionWhat the fuck is a “taken woman” and why would they want to dress “conservatively?” A taken person is someone in a relationship. A taken woman therefore is a woman in a relationship. Why would they want to dress conservatively? Out of respect for their partner. Granted, some men don't care how their partners dress. But generally speaking, well respected 'high value' guys are going to prefer their long term partner dressing more modestly. An opened buttoned shirt and sweat pants is a fucking terr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:28 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionAre you interested in actually discussing this? I'm not going to take 10+ minutes writing a multi paragraph in depth answer just to get a 2 sentence reply that completely dismisses everything I say without looking deeper into things. Is there a reason men who are not the target audience can't simply avert their eyes? If you go out to a club, bar or party wearing a sexy outfit, guys are going to stare at you. That's natural biology. It works both ways as well. Women stare equally as much at attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:20 PM |
| – | Women dress provocatively for male attentionFirst of all, you replied within 60 seconds of me posting this long thread. Meaning you did not read it fully before you replied. Please read paragraphs 2 and 3. There is a difference between dressing cute vs dressing sexy. Nobody gets horny from a face of artistic makeup . When I say dressing sexy I'm specifically talking about dressing slutty, not just generally looking good. "No I do it for my friends" If it was for their friends, they would wear sexy clothes during sleepovers rather than s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 02:13 PM |
| – | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?It isn’t simply that some studies are partially inaccurate, or use faulty methodologies. The issue is that some phenomena is fundamentally not conducive to being studied using the scientific method. There is a popular phrase that exists “chicks love bad boys”. Theoretically, someone could create some type of replicable experiment in which female participants are presented with a “bad boy” vs a “nice guy” and then must choose between the two men. This will never be an accurate method in deciding … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:08 PM |
| – | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?When it comes to qualitative statements like “men are more X than women” it is pretty much impossible to accurately study. For example, how does one study which gender is more manipulative? We could create an experiment that tests participants ability to manipulate a situation maybe, but that only demonstrates manipulation in that particular context. On top of that there are various other factors that would impede any sort of accurate conclusion. For example, the sample size of said study would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:36 PM |
| – | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?I think a very telling sign of an unintelligent person is the necessity to have things expressed in the form of a study in order to conclude blatantly true things. For example if I said “women prefer tall men” and someone rebutted with “source? where’s your evidence?” I would think this is an unintelligent individual. Because it requires very minimal observational ability to realize that the majority of women prefer a taller man. This can be inferred not only by examining relationship heights, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 12:16 PM |
| – | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .The ring price is less of a problem than the lacking in virginity. I would spend $10,000 on a ring for a virgin woman. I wouldn’t even spend $100 on a ring for a non-virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 11:47 AM |
| – | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .But my point is, there are millions of potential future wives to choose from. Why would I marry one who let another guy inside her vagina before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:20 AM |
| – | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .So can 1-2 other billion women on the planet why does that make her special? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:12 AM |
| – | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .I think 1 thing you got wrong was that being married is inherently valuable. If your wife isn’t a virgin, what’s the point? Why would I spend $10,000 on a ring for a woman who let another man nut inside her uterus? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:10 AM |
| -1 | what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25?I’m not, but I would like the woman I eventually marry to be a virgin before I meet her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Lying to Women is okayIt is relevant here. He clearly said that he is able to be honest with women, whereas the average guy has to lie to women to some degree to get laid. Most people would consider being honest a virtuous act in contrast to lying. His “abundance” in this case, allowing him to act in a more moral way than the average man, is his good looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?It is normal and natural for your self-esteem to be significantly impacted by your attractiveness to the opposite sex, as well as satisfy them sexually. And in a culture where penis size is felt to impact that, it is natural for that to matter to people. But modern culture has amplified this dynamic too far, while eliminated a lot of the ways unattractive people could still find self-esteem and status. We live in shitty times. Let's say a guy is overall physically attractive, but has a small pen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:45 PM |
| 1 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?what do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:24 PM |
| -1 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?But you don't get "status" from having a big dick. I mean, if you have sex with a girl and you're hung, she may tell her friends about you sure. But you don't walk around with a tshirt announcing your size to everyone. I don't get the rich guy analogy either. It seems like many rich guys like Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, and Musk to a degree are very socially awkward and non-confident in environments they are not comfortable in, like public speaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:23 PM |
| 2 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?And women know how important a man's sexual status is to his overall self-esteem in a highly sexualized and sexually free world. I don't get it. Why is a man's sexual status important to his self-esteem? Even in a highly sexualized world, not everyone chooses to be promiscuous and sleep around. Personally I find people who sleep around like that quite disgraceful even though it is socially acceptable. Nonetheless, it's not like men walk around with a sign on their heads that says "my dick size i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:20 PM |
| 10 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?It's not just a niche femcel thing to make fun of small penises. Just hours ago on Facebook, i saw a meme making fun of this exact thing. It was a picture of a girl holding up a tiny sausage (the small ones that come from a can) in her 2 fingers, with the caption "Im gonna destroy you baby" and she was holding it to her crotch pretending to be a guy with a small dick. The comments & likes were filled with normal everyday women laughing at this scenario, the audacity of a man who thinks he can 'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:17 PM |
| 1 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Why would having a big penis make you more confident in non-sexual environments though? Why would having a small or big penis have an effect on your confidence at work, or your confidence in conversation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:12 PM |
| 8 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Right, but guys don't see other guys penises unless they are gay. I have never seen any of my male friends penises. The only time I could see that happening is in a locker room type scenario, or in a situation where me and my buddies were piss faced drunk and went skinny dipping or something. And even then , I wouldnt be focused on looking at my friends penises. Please don't call me hun either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Lying to Women is okayThe majority of leftists who spend vast amounts of time bitterly throwing insults on the internet are often deeply mentally ill and on some concoction of pharmaceutical medications. just wanted to know what particular brand of antidepressant you take is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:05 PM |
| 4 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Read my other reply to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:03 PM |
| 3 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?If you read my post again, you will notice I never complained once about women preferring bigger penises. I don't fault them at all for this. If you think the premise of my post was to complain about women having preferences, you either didn't read it, or you gravely misunderstood. My questioning was regarding the perceived association between larger penis sizes and a more cool, calm, collected demeanour (i.e. "Big Penis Energy"). Most women have the assumption that if a guy is extremely self co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:01 PM |
| -1 | Lying to Women is okayAre you transgender, perhaps? Also, what SSRI are you presently on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:55 PM |
| 5 | Lying to Women is okaySo can we just skip the whining and see this stoicism and top dudeisms? Try rewriting in english so that I may understand you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:54 PM |
| 2 | Lying to Women is okayYou realise those strangers on reddit are real living people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Lying to Women is okayI don't see what's funny about a series of truisms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:44 PM |
| 9 | Lying to Women is okay"Women are the empathetic gender" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:42 PM |
| 0 | Lying to Women is okayWhich of those statements do you deem false? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:41 PM |
| 20 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?The frustrating thing is even though you nailed the essence of my post in a more succinct way, the women on this sub will just scroll by and not give it a second thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:37 PM |
| 33 | Do you feel that growing up in strict, religious environments makes men lack confidence?The common pattern for people who grow up in religious settings is this: Sex is viewed as sinful -> Sexuality gets suppressed -> Avoidance of sexual thoughts makes urges grow stronger -> Strong urges lead to indulgence followed by guilt This leads to a repetitive cycle where periods of trying to abstain from masturbation are filled with intense relapses followed by an episode of guilt and then trying to abstain again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:35 PM |
| 16 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Ok , I will grant that some men probably do make jokes like this even though I have personally never heard it directly. Still though, who do you think is more judgemental of small penises? Men or women? It wouldn't make sense for men to judge each other for small penises quite frankly. Many men are insecure about their size, so the less expectation there is for size down there, the more comfortable men would feel about themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:27 PM |
| 4 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?The only time I have heard small dicks referred to in a positive light is the fact that it makes anal or giving head easier. Like you said, I have never heard of any woman having a specific preference for small penises. It might be "okay" but it's not their specific choice; it doesn't turn them on in the same way a large one does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:20 PM |
| 9 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Again, I have flat out read texts from women saying they left a guy's apartment, because upon hooking up she found out he had a very small penis. I don't think any guy in the history ever has done that because a girl had a weird labia. It's a decent comparison, but not at all equivalent. There is even a subreddit on here dedicated to women with big labias. It is a thing some men are specifically aroused by. As far as I know , there is no subreddit where women get off to pictures of men with tiny… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:12 PM |
| – | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Not only do women do it too, they do it far more, and it's far worse. If a guy makes fun of another guy's dick, he looks gay or weird for even thinking about a fellow straight man's penis. But when a woman insults or is disgusted by small dicks, she actually means it, because she is the one who actually has sex with men and experiences dicks inside her. I have heard an alarming number of Asian women say they don't like Asian men because they purportedly have small dicks. I'm not Asian, but damn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:07 PM |
| 26 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Guys generally don't talk about other men's dick sizes unless they are gay or bisexual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:03 PM |
| 16 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?If a large portion of women preferred small penises, men wouldn't feel embarrassed or ashamed for having them. Men only view it as a bad feature, because well, that's the feedback women give. In watching porn , I have seen thousands of women say they prefer a large dick, but I have never seen one say she prefers a small dick as an ideal. I have even read stories of women refusing to hookup with guys because when they were gonna have sex, he pulled down his pants and his dick is tiny. You seem to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 11:40 AM |
| 26 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?I have honestly never heard a guy use a term like "small dick energy" in reference to another man, but I have heard many variations of such thing from women. I actually had a girl from a dating app say I must have a small dick because I called her a bitch lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 11:34 AM |
| 32 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Maybe, but I'm asking regarding women in 2023, not Greek men of 700 BCE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 11:30 AM |
| 64 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?If you conflate dick size with a personality type then you’re probably trash. Guess a hell of a lot of women are trash then by your standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 11:02 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allYou exert more energy making lame jokes than coming up with cohesive arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:52 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allI made the argument. Supremacist ideologies are hateful You made the initial argument, and when I challenged it, rather than dissecting the points I made, you immediately resorted to calling me sexist, racist, refusing to even waste your breath on me, as if I am some Nazi. If I said "Asians are the best at math" or "Black people make the best athletes" would you call me hateful? Yes these are generalisations, indeed they are not always correct. But to call them hateful? Perhaps you and I have di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:50 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allIt's disappointing to hear you aren't willing to expand on your previous points and challenge mine, but not surprising nonetheless. Leftists will often disengage in discussions when they are unable to create a compelling cohesive argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:12 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allIf a guy shows a semblance of being too cocky and arrogant, women will try to shut him down by implying he has a small penis, as if it's women's God-given duty on Earth to 'humble' men who are too full of themselves. They will say you have small dick energy, when they have never seen your penis once in your life. How do you think it makes guys who actually have small penises that their junk is synonymous with fragile masculinity and insecurity? You can be a perfectly normal, adjusted guy, and ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:07 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allDo you think no black person will ever be the best chess player? That's racist. Its hateful. Two things here: First, while I understand the point you are illustrating, I consider the deviation between the sexes far greater than the deviation between the races - meaning I think the difference in nature between males and females is far greater than the difference between black people and white people, for example. I don't think the best chess player in the world will ever be a black person, not th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:54 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allDid you convert him vegan or was he like that before you met? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:28 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allI agree with most of what you said. It isn't fair to generalise large swaths of people; there are virtually exceptions in every domain. Still, I don't think it's necessarily hateful to think one group is naturally more suited for certain roles based on biological proclivities. Or that one gender is generally 'superior' in one particular area. There are some obvious examples that most people would agree with: I don't think most would disagree that men are more suited for arduous physical labour, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:22 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allAren't men already considered disposable in modern society? Vibrators are substitutes en lieu of real men to satisfy women's sexual needs. Traditionally male jobs like construction are increasingly becoming automated and will continue to do so with the development of AI and technology in general. I would argue that men are easier to substitute in any case than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:10 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allbody shaming them in great vitriolic detail Do you consider it equally as hateful when women make fun of guys for being short or having tiny penises (e.g. 'small dick energy')? I agree with your list by the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:04 AM |
| 0 | what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25?Different men will have different takes on this, but here's mine: I actually find women in the 25-35 age range very attractive, perhaps even more attractive than their 20 year old counterparts. But if I wanted a serious relationship, I would primarily consider a younger woman than myself (I'm 23). Why? - Fewer past sexual partners - Fewer past relationships - More willing to let me lead the relationship - More opportunity to experience firsts together So for me, I wouldn't suddenly get turned of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 08:53 AM |
| – | "Sex bots" or android women are a net positive for everyone and don't threaten us human women at allSincere question, what is your metric for "hateful"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Andre Tate is a schmuck and a poser. The REAL specimens of masculinity right now are Arnold Schwarzenegger (Alpha Male) Keanu Reeves (Theta Male), and Gordon Ramsay (Sigma Male).He went from a crying bitch to a shouting bitch. Real men know how to control their emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Andre Tate is a schmuck and a poser. The REAL specimens of masculinity right now are Arnold Schwarzenegger (Alpha Male) Keanu Reeves (Theta Male), and Gordon Ramsay (Sigma Male).No, hes not playing a character for the camera, he literally is stressed out all the time. He had a mental breakdown and cried like a bitch when he was younger working for a french chef, google it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 06:56 AM |
| 0 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.You’re implying that technologically advanced & socioeconomically equal societies are inherently better than primitive & socioeconomically diverse societies. Not only are these claims subjective, they aren’t even true. In many ways a lot of ‘primitive’ societies such as native tribes or Hindu villages had much more humanity & morality to them than modern day societies. People riding self-driving Teslas as opposed to riding horses, while a progression in technology, is not necessarily a progressi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.If we’re using the word progress to mean literally the chronological progression of events that shaped society, yes you’re right. However, progress often has a positive connotation to it and usually when people are talking about societal progress, they are talking about positive changes in how society functions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.No. It means is that if I was black, I would be more cautious around police as a defence mechanism, because I realize I have more of a chance of being falsely imprisoned or brutalized by racial profiling. It doesn’t make it right and it doesn’t mean it should be that way, it’s about avoiding bad outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:51 PM |
| 0 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.It is my business when they make it my business though. For example if I see a woman out dressed half naked, she’s putting herself on display for everyone to see, and thus in my mind I will judge her for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.Societal progress is 100% subjective. What an American woman thinks is best for society may be the exact opposite of what a muslim man thinks is best for society, for example. It is 100% dependent on your values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.We aren’t talking about legal equality, we’re talking about social equality. Legally men and women have the same rights under the constitution, however there are and always will be social situations and expectations that benefit either men or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.“Society going forward” is subjective. Just because society changes, does not necessarily mean that change is for the better. Many people would’ve preferred living in the 1980s rather than the current times we lived in, despite the fact that there has been so much “progress”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.People care about what society thinks of them, because it impacts how they are treated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.you’re mine 😈 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.Excellent reply sir! You just completely changed my view on everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.Lets be honest, even though you probably won’t have the opportunity to stay at home, it’s at least something feasible that happens in some relationships when the guy is making 150k+ per year salary. The reverse scenario, you working while your husband chills at home all day, is laughable at how unrealistic it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.Operating in reality is better than living in delusion. Also, being aware of the social double standards arms you with the ability to present yourself in a more appealing way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.Proportionally to men, yes. Even if only 10% of women have the opportunity to be housewives , 0-1% of men have the opportunity to stay at home and be financially supported by their women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.u belong 2 the 🚏🚦🚘 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’I don’t, but women generally only tolerate assholes if the man is attractive enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.most of double standards come from women I’m not disagreeing, but let me ask you this: how many women do you see actively trying to break double standards in their actions? If women wanted no double standards they would date a bunch of short dudes who cry a lot. Women tend to only complain about double standards that harm them, while still benefiting from the ones in their favour. We need to acknowledge reality in an unbiased way rather than wishing it was an idealistic world of equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:45 PM |
| 4 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.i do deserve better than you you’re right 👍 u gotta sister? 🤞🏻 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.You don’t have to automatically respect the life choices of people. For example, if a woman is on OnlyFans, I will lose respect for her and won’t feel bad for doing so. I might not vocalize my disrespect to her as she is free to do what she wants, but I’m not going to pretend that I’m not judging her either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.babygrl… u was doing so good last thread… wtf is this low iq take tho… dont ever lie to me 304 😡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.You guys aren’t doing that great in that regard, clearly. None of the men on this subreddit are in prison, so I’m not sure your point. Life isn’t a battle where men are on one team and women are on the other team. That’s immature childish thinking. I am not affiliated with the men in prison, nor do they represent a significant part of the male population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:26 PM |
| 6 | Double standards exist and that’s okay.No, you should live your life how you want. But you should also be aware of the ramifications that come with going against the grain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Andre Tate is a schmuck and a poser. The REAL specimens of masculinity right now are Arnold Schwarzenegger (Alpha Male) Keanu Reeves (Theta Male), and Gordon Ramsay (Sigma Male).Gordon Ramsay whines like a bitch. Being stressed out all the time doesn’t make you a theta alpha ligma male | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’women will tolerate more abuse and disrespect the more attractive the guy is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’“Good girls” cheat too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’You realize reddit is normie mainstream now ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’The reason for cheating does matter to a degree. “They were just a shitty person” is not a satisfying explanation. I agree cheaters are shitty. But if I got cheated on I would want to know the reason so I could prevent it from happening ever again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 04:48 AM |
| 3 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’That’s dumb as hell. Something can be morally terrible but still have a logical process behind it. I think people who rob are generally terrible people but I also understand there is an incentive behind it (money) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 04:29 AM |
| -2 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’Your ex husband was a manipulator, but likely very attractive as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 04:27 AM |
| 3 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’Because usually when people say ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ they specifically mean the man wasn’t sensitive enough, didn’t buy her flowers, didn’t say I love you etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 03:43 AM |
| 7 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’You are justifying cheating behaviour and avoiding accountability in a very womanly fashion. If you’re partner is a “D grade partner” then break up with him. If you cheat, it doesn’t matter how much of a dick he was, unless he was physically abusive and literally threatening to kill you if you leave or something. If a woman cheats on a man the man is the victim, and the woman is the wrongdoer. It’s that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 03:40 AM |
| 0 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’“Drifting apart a bit” is not a justified reason to cheat lmao. That’s woman accountability-avoiding logic. If you cheat because you “drifted apart” but didn’t have the balls to break up and be single you’re still a fucking piece of shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 02:18 AM |
| -2 | Why body count is different for men and womenits not out of thin air its out of experience and talking to women lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Why body count is different for men and womenIm not talking just about doing it for religious reasons. If you were a 24 yo muslim virgin woman you would likely want a virgin male for religious reasons. But if you’re just like an 18 year old virgin girl who just hasnt had sex yet, chances are she’s gonna want a guy whos at least had sex once before to ‘guide the way’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:25 AM |
| 0 | Why body count is different for men and womenWomen like you exist but are rare. I’ve only heard 2 women say they want a completely virgin male in their life over a guy with sexual experience. In a way it’s comforting to know that women like you exist. But even among most virgin women, they generally want a guy who at least had sex a few times before so he knows what he’s doing and it’s less awkward, anxiety inducing, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Why body count is different for men and womenYeah but the difference is, most women would still prefer a guy with like 2-5 sexual partners rather than a complete virginal male; I don’t think the opposite is true. A woman with a body count of 0 is ideal to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Why body count is different for men and womenDid you completely ignore the content of the post? I didn’t say sex was bad for women or good for men. I explained why women don’t care about body count or prefer sexually experienced men, whereas the opposite is true for men in regards to women. Why reply if you’re going to ignore everything I wrote? You talk about bitterness on this subreddit in one of your posts. Maybe men are just frustrated when women like you completely ignore any sort of male perspective that clashes with your view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:14 AM |
| – | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenAnd vice versa, some of the time its the younger woman approaching the older guy either at a bar, on tinder etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:35 AM |
| – | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenHow old are you and how much do you weigh? In my experiences past age ~30 and particularly with bigger women they tend to go for younger/more effeminate guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:34 AM |
| – | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womensend titties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:33 AM |
| – | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womendont tell me what to do. I don’t respect reddit moderators. Ban me if you want idrgaf lololol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:33 AM |
| – | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenI personally know girls that have set up tinder profiles while in high school, lied about their age, and then went and fucked dudes in their 20s and 30s. So i guess I am speaking from my experience lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenIf I see that age gap I assume he’s just a rich naive guy and she’s a gold digger. But I dont think its creepy or wrong in any way on behalf of the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenWhat post are you referring to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 09:47 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenThe average woman is more attracted to Chris Evans, Channing Tatum, Bradley Cooper, Ryan Reynolds etc than Timothee Chalamet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenBecause it’s not the archetype he is typically casted as, but even still romcoms usually involve a guy in their mid 30s, not some baby faced 20 year old guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 09:42 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenfirst of all, statistics, research, sources, and surveys are all the same thing for the purposes of social ‘science’ topics like this one. Because that’s the only way you can measure this type of data: with surveys, which come with a myriad of problems such as the accuracy of self reporting & how people will lie/give false numbers, the influence of cultural influence on a demographic , and organizing a large enough sample size for the numbers to even have any statistical significance. There are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenthere are many teachers who are by no means scientists, I don’t see the correlation there lol People think they sound intellectual for asking for citations or studies, but when it’s on a non-intellectual social subject like what people find attractive it just makes you look dumb to even ask. If you need a study to understand what people find sexually attractive that indicates a lack of intelligence, not a surplus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:06 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenYes and thats fine. Both preferences are fine and normal, agreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenMy sample size is more in the 500 range and Reddit is thankfully not where I get my information on women from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenNot surprising lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:53 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenFirst of all we’re talking like 30-40 year olds. Hardly old men. There are many good looking, healthy men in this age range, in fact many consider this the prime for men overall. The difference with the wrinkles is women don’t care as much, because it can give the guy a masculine, rugged look. Also like how women find scars sexy on men. Whereas for men, generally they prefer women who have more delicate features of beauty, which is why signs of aging like wrinkles or grey hair are seen as less a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:48 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenIdeally if I met the right woman we would live happily and neither would have baggage. But I would rather create a future older woman with baggage, than deal with another man’s old baggage. As Kanye said “theres leaders and followers, but I’d rather be a dick than a swallower” 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:45 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenNotice how when you were in your early 20s you were mainly into older guys, even one guy 15+ years older. It’s yin/yang. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:31 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenSure, they might know more about doing taxes, or paying a mortgage, or be more comfortable yelling at a waiter in a restaurant. Men who are successful and have money don’t necessarily need a woman to know how to do these things though. A woman’s greatest strength for a lot of men is her feminine energy and innocence which comes most strongly when she’s 18-25 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenYour debate is dumb though. Women have an innate fear of getting cheated on by a younger, prettier girl, especially as they age into their 30’s and 40’s. To compensate for this fear, a select population of women will deliberately go for men who are less attractive than their previous boyfriends when settling down, as they don’t want any risk of getting cheated on or their marriage getting jeopardized. What about this is difficult to understand? I will try to dumb it down for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:16 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenI made this thread telling people to leave Leo alone and let him date who he wants. I’m not invested in him, I’m telling people to stop being invested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:14 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenRight, but I disagree. That’s why I was hoping for more of an elaborate response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:12 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenIm not talking about your husband. Im asking what ages of men were you dating when you were in your early 20s. Im assuming you had other partners before your husband yes, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:07 AM |
| -3 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenYou joke, but a huge benefit to dating younger women is the fact that they’ve had less partners, less breakups, less toxic relationships, less dicks inside them, etc. Guys want to get in early while a woman’s in her prime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:06 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenBut why do you care if he settles down and has a family vs if he chooses to fuck 18 year old models forever? It’s his life. He has no obligation to have a nice Hollywood friendly family just because he’s a celebrity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:03 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenMy point is, what sort of maturity do you think a 40 year old woman has that a 20 year old one doesn’t? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:02 AM |
| -8 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenI think a lot of different things make different women wet. I definitely don’t think Timothee Chalamet, Tom Holland, Harry Styles etc are the type of men women lust over though. those are quite effeminate guys. The type of guys I think make women wet are usually rappers, athletes, or actors with a bigger build like Jason Momoa or Channing Tatum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 07:01 AM |
| -2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenWhy are you concerned what a grown man does with his life? Is he obligated to settle down, have a family, marry an actress his age, have kids, etc? Why are women so heavily invested in what celebrities do in their personal lives? I find it more creepy that you care who someone’s fucking when you will never meet this man in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenAt least you admit you aren’t basing it on logic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:52 AM |
| -5 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenThere are many sexy and attractive women in their thirties. There are so many sexy and attractive women in their early twenties, who are very intelligent, vibrant, have less emotional baggage, less past partners, no children, etc. It’s not always a malicious intent to have some weird power dynamic. It’s literally just what men are attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:51 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenif you can’t do that, you’ve failed a basic high school assignment. Women truly love adding catty sarcastic remarks at the end of every comment. It’s like second nature to your gender. My sources believe it or not are in depth discussions with women about what they are attracted to. Usually online discussions, which actually helps because most women are too uncomfortable to be forward about what they like in person, however over text they feel comfortable to be fully honest about what turns them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenIt’s a balancing act. If the guy isn’t attractive enough she’ll have to settle with a less attractive partner than she theoretically could and deal with sexual urges for other men (most women go this route). If the guy is very attractive she might be more into him but he’s gonna have a lot more options, she’s gonna be worried about cheating, trying to check is phone always, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:45 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenHow old were your boyfriends in your early 20s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:43 AM |
| -2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenTom Holland and Timothee Chalamet are not even close to the pinnacle of male attraction lol. Those are ‘cute’ celebrities that teenagers put posters of on their walls. Those aren’t the type of men women have visceral sexual fantasies about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:41 AM |
| 3 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenPeople are erroneously interpreting my post as if I was saying Leonardo DiCaprio is the peak of male attractiveness. There are millions of better looking men than him, like Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Jason Momoa, etc. It’s dumb people are hyper-focused on Leo and ignoring the actual point of my post, that Leo isn’t creepy for wanting to date models under 25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:38 AM |
| -4 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenYou are correct but a lot of 20 year old women would be willing to be a wife if they met the right guy, especially a rich celebrity like Leo. So for a 20 year old woman who does want to be a wife and have kids right away. What does the 40 year old woman have to offer more than her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:36 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenWomen do indirectly prefer older men, because the attributes women find attractive — successful, confident, mature, intelligent, socially aware, respected, dominant, take longer to develop whereas 18 year old women essentially start out in their prime as long as they figure out makeup and aren’t fat. If a 20 year old guy is hot, as long as he takes care of himself he will be hotter when he is 30. He’ll be bigger, stronger, more mature physically and emotionally, he’ll have better social skills, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:32 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenHow old are you, and how old is your husband? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:26 AM |
| -8 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenWhat do you think 40 year old women have to offer as wives that a 20 year old woman couldn’t do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:25 AM |
| 0 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenThe more attractive her husband/boyfriend is the more afraid she will be of getting cheated on. In fact, many women will choose someone slightly less attractive than they’re used to when choosing a husband , because at that point in their life they want a stable guy who couldn’t cheat/leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:21 AM |
| -2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenI mean yeah, he’s a 6’5 25 year old drop dead model. I’m not saying Leonardo DiCaprio is the hottest man alive. I’m saying he shouldn’t be shamed for his sexual preferences . If you read my post I did mention 25 as one of the golden numbers than women are attracted to. I guarantee though most models who would date Jacob would also date Leo or Brad Pitt in a heartbeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:19 AM |
| 3 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenWho said I’m comparing myself to Leo? My point was men are attracted to younger women, and women are attracted to older men, and both preferences are fine. The fact that such a simple point flew above your head is unbelievable. It’s always amusing when women don’t understand your post, so they just resort to insults. The only similarities I share with Leo are being good looking, funny, charming, intelligent, and having blue eyes. Otherwise we are like 2 completely different people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:16 AM |
| -1 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenAs I will reiterate, most women will date within their own age range for a variety of reasons: social conformity, being in a similar position in life, etc. The point was when women have sexual fantasies, it’s often about a guy who’s much older than themselves. Conversely the opposite is true; most guys have sexual fantasies about 19 year old women than 39 year old women. does this mean every guy will go have date or have sex with a 19 year old, no. But men who are rich, successful, high value or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:14 AM |
| -14 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenThe women who date men way older than them are rare. If you read my post, I mention 3 (three) times that people tend to date within their age range for social conformity, but their sexual preference may fall outside of what is socially conventional. The reality is even 18 year old virgin women often have sexual fantasies about men much older than them, sometimes in the 40’s and 50’s range and oftentimes their friends dads, their professors, their favorite celebrities, their bosses, their persona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:07 AM |
| -4 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenNo wonder you guys can’t get laid. Notice how when you say something a woman doesn’t like, her immediate response is to call you a virgin, get no pussy, incel, etc. They can’t accept the reality that men simply are attracted to young women, because every woman is afraid of aging and getting cheated on by a younger hotter girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:01 AM |
| -2 | Men aren’t creepy or gross for preferring young adult womenPreferring dumber, poorer and weaker is exploitative, no matter the context This is a very weak argument. First of all, I know this may be hard to accept for older women, but some of the most intelligent women are in the college range. The idea that people get smarter as they age isn’t inherently correct. You could argue people get more knowledgeable or wiser as they age, but even then 40 year old women are capable of being extremely emotionally immature, even more so than their 20 year old coun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 05:58 AM |
| 3 | Women complain that men are too influenced by porn, but women are more influenced by romance novels/TV showsA lot of romance novels are about bad boys, toxic men, assholes, powerful controlling men, older men sometimes with big age gaps, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 04:50 AM |
| 0 | StepdadismMy point is you can be handsome, intelligent, confident, alpha, dominating, and still get labeled a “deadbeat” as a pejorative term by an emotional woman with regret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:10 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismThe biological connection is extremely important. You are literally dealing with a human being with the same brain pathways, the same proclivities, tendencies, mannerisms, gravitation towards certain activities, etc. It goes well beyond the clinical genetic description of DNA. This isn’t to say adopting is bad or even necessarily worse. But there is a reason we naturally want to produce our own kids rather than adopt or raise the child of someone else, unless we’re unable to conceive on our own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismFine, then please never have kids and only adopt. Otherwise you are being disingenuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismIf you’re trying to tell me you’re the 1 shy woman who prefers vanilla sex over rough or kinky sex, please let me know. Every single experience I can recall points to the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:04 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismDid he actively raise you, or was he just there for your mom? Were you a kid when they got together or did he meet your mom when you were grown up? Did he end up having children of his own with your mother? These are factors to consider | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:01 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismThe man is absolutely vilified. Women will call their ex baby daddies dead beats, make social media posts about them, sabotage their reputation with friends and family, even prevent their child from having a proper relationship with him in some cases. And worst of all, usually the man actually DOES try and step up and fulfill his role somewhat, it’s just that if he’s not willing to do be the kind of dad/partner she wants so her solution is to ostracize him completely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:58 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismAbortion isn’t wrong because of stigmatization, it’s wrong because a certain population of the world recognizes fetuses are tiny babies and not random clumps of cells (myself included) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:55 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismIt’s more like: 20 year old woman falls in love with hot bum and accidentally gets pregnant she tries to get him to play daddy, with varying degrees of success depending on the relationship they split up, child lived with her and has weak relationship with their father, woman is resentful towards ex years later woman looks to find new man to fill the void and replace him, usually a more stable yet less attractive man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:53 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismObviously women do care about these topics though, hence they are consistently on Redpill forums actively trying to dispel any male orientated interpretation of the dating market. Women care, they just dont care about how men feel. As long as society is set up for you to have your fun and have a stable partner to settle down with in the end, you expect everybody to be happy too. That’s not how reality works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:50 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismYeah, I wanted to be careful about this post because this isn’t an Anti step dad or Anti single mom post, its about being educated and knowing the full background before making a decision to get involved with something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:47 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismThose aren’t mutually exclusive lol. A lot of men particularly blue collar men are in great physical shape, confident, tatted up, etc and will simultaneously get labeled as “deadbeats” because they dont mold into the perfect father figure role the woman wants them to become. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:44 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismFirst of all, inexperienced =/ innocent. We live in an era with 18 year old virgins who know every single sexual position, the most depraved kinks & fetishes, that have sent nudes/videos to dozens of people on the Internet, etc. Also, even if a woman has a shy innocent vibe IRL, these type of women get immense sexual gratification from acting like sluts in private. The whole concept of having a wholesome life as a teacher, mother, businesswoman etc, and being a complete whore in the bedroom is s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:43 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismWanting your child to be of your DNA isn’t a ‘weird hangup’ when you realize it’s much deeper than simply how you look. Men and women both want their own children, this isn’t some fragile masculinity issue. Imagine if you told all the fertile women of the world “you must not have children, the world is overpopulated. You must adopt.” Do you naively think women will be happy about that too? No. People want their own children, both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:07 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismIf I’m taking a girl seriously (meaning long term) I want sexual access to her in ways she never gave to other men before. I want to explore her body and do things with her she never let anyone else do to her. If her sluttiness is the result of a lot of sexual experiences with other guys, Im not interested in her as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:00 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismUnexpected pregnancies can be prevented Yeah they CAN be prevented. Not every woman wants an abortion believe it or not! For a lot of women abortion is a very wrong and unnatural activity to do, that is terminating the life of a developing fetus . So many women carry out to term despite having some apprehension and concerns about being able to raise a baby | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:55 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismI would adopt if I couldnt have my own kids or something maybe, or maybe my girl cant have babies, etc.. but raising another man’s kids knowing damn well she chose to fuck and have those babies while he is able to freely live his life… To me it doesnt get much more cuckolded than that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:51 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismI can tell based on your comment you understand exactly the dynamic I’m alluding to. When a woman runs out of options her standards… not drop per say, but change to a different type of man. But of course, when women are in their prime, feeling hot, dressed up in the club, or on Tinder, or just dating around in their early 20s, you know exactly which types of guys they’re going to be attracted to, and which ones they’ll just want to be friends with or will keep on the backburner as a plan B. Yet … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:49 PM |
| 0 | StepdadismYou can be patronizing about my age if that makes you feel good. It doesn’t change the reality of the truth my baby | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismRight, but the question is, is she doing slutty things for him that she never would never dream do with any other guy? Or is she simply acting in the slutty/kinky tendencies that she enjoyed & learned from her last relationships with other men? If option A it’s a win for the man. Option B is not so much of a win. Sure you still get a woman being a slut for you, but you have to deal with the residual reminder that everything kinky shes doing for you she already explored with a more dominant guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Stepdadism“Liberal” as an ethos, not a political philosophy per se. eg uses reddit religiously, indulges in mainstream media, spends all their time complaining about imaginary nazis, thinks that men are responsible for 90% of problems of society, play video games, are afraid of confrontation, havent been in a fight etc. You could say Im using it as a pejorative term . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:29 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismYou realize not every child is planned? Unexpected pregnancies particularly in late teens and early 20s at peak fertility are extremely common especially historically and especially in less affluent countries with less access to birth control and contraceptives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismHistorically not only was it extremely common to have children before your mid twenties, but it was expected and the norm. Nowadays of course that has changed with birth control and the lack of family orientation in Western society. Also I guarantee your uncle has children of his own. That’s different. If a man has his own offspring then raising someone else’s isn’t a big deal. But if he doesn’t have kids of his own DNA and then he ends up raising another man’s kid, to me thats a huge L | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:23 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismIm not talking so much about incels as I am about the liberal men type who only get pussy later in life and therefore dont understand what women want in their prime fertility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:06 PM |
| 4 | StepdadismI agree the stepdad has a choice 100%, but women aggressively push the agenda of “its ok babe it doesnt matter if he didnt come from your nuts you’re still his dad ❤️” because they want redemption from their past mistakes. Im not saying guys are being forced to play stepdad, Im saying women will say and do anything they can to create the most optimal environment for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 01:54 PM |
| 1 | StepdadismIt’s not even about insecurity. It’s about having the most powerful experiences that teach you the most about how the opposite sex functions. Men who don’t have sex with a lot of women often have a very naive portrayal of innocence in how women act, because they havent experienced what it’s like for a woman to be an absolute slut for you. 1 single person can change the way you look at the opposite sex forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 12:43 PM |
| 2 | StepdadismYou’re making such tiny insignificant points that make me believe you aren’t actually interested in learning from what I have to say. Of course a woman doesn’t look at a man and immediately get wet; that was a euphemism. My point is there is a subsection of men that, despite having terrible personality traits (or perhaps because of that) are extremely attractive to the majority of women. One single example of this is the ‘bad boy’ trope, but in the real world it’s obviously a lot more nuanced th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 11:56 AM |
| 3 | StepdadismBeing biologically related to your child isn’t only a resource issue. There is a fundamental spiritual attachment to having your own kid that ties itself to pride, identity, masculinity etc. Things im sure seem silly to women, but society would fall apart if men didnt care about these things. Im not telling you to post on FB. Go look at your female friends who have kids with stepfathers in the picture. You will find a lot of scruffy, blue collar looking baby daddies and a lot of nerdy, sweet loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 11:19 AM |
| 4 | StepdadismYou completely ignore the idea of learning from your mistakes. People can & should learn from their mistakes. BUT people should also take accountability for their mistakes.. too many women blame their children’s problems on the lack of father presence, completely oblivious to the fact that their actions are what led to this predicament. Also it’s not the responsibility of “society” or men to step up and be a 2nd father to your children. If a man opts to be a stepfather thats his decision and imo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 11:14 AM |
| 1 | StepdadismAlso practically speaking, Jason Momoa is off making movies and Russell is playing pro football. I personally doubt they have huge involvements in their stepchildren’s lives beyond being around a few months of the year. In a real world scenario with normal people, the ‘step dad’ actually has to be present and involved in the child’s life, or it will cause relationships with the mother in the future. That’s the difference. U cant be a famous celebrity and simultaneously be an active parent, let a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 10:54 AM |
| 0 | StepdadismCuckolds are unaware; in our terms it means an unfaithful wife/partner. In situation with prior mates, in humans or animals, the new mate is not referred to in this way. It’s funny you mention humans or animals, as if there’s another animal that exists in which step parentage is considered accepted by that species. It isn’t. Animals are attached to the offspring they produce. You won’t find another species where a mother will “introduce” a prior child of hers to a new mate or something like that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 10:50 AM |
| 0 | StepdadismOk, but there’s a difference between a famous celebrity who’s fucked literally thousands of beautiful women and is living in the endgame of reality, vs an average, kinda boring guy who maybe fucked 2 girls in his life and is systematically used by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Does every girl have a hoe phase?You replied in less than 60 seconds, at least read my post beyond the title before commenting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI don’t think we disagree on much. All I’m saying is that men often reach their peak attractiveness in their 30’s and 40’s when many men are at their most successful, charismatic, put-together, and mature. Women are almost universally considered their most attractive in their early 20’s when they are in the prime of their youth and generally their most beautiful. Men pretty much only care about how hot women are, we don’t tend to care about women being successful or mature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI have never heard “The wall” used to describe men, because there’s a huge market for dilfs, daddies, dadbods, sugar daddies, silver foxes etc. Maturity is seen as sexually attractive as a trait in men, while mot necessarily in women. There isn’t a “wall” for men because of the widespread principle that men get better with age (sometimes true, sometimes not true). Some guys get more sexual attention in their 30s and 40s than in their 20s because for guys it’s not just about being youthful but ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herPost wall doesn’t exist for men because women generally find older men more attractive, not less so. The “ideal” woman on the marketplace in generally an attractive woman in her early 20s while currently for guys the ideal is a put together “daddy” in his 30s-40s with a beard, rugged look, tattoo sleeves, financial success, minimal jewelry, etc. Women generally find this type of man more appealing than pretty boy fratboys in college, in my experience, I guess due to the perceived maturity differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI personally know a bouncer in his 40s that regularly gets approached and picks up younger women. Granted the guy needs to be particularly attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herSame city, small city, a lot of drinking and a rough culture in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herAgain, virtually every single woman on planet earth claims to want an egalitarian relationship however their actions are often contradictory to this statement. I understand that some women want more of an egalitarian relationship than others. However I would bet a lot of money that the vast majority of women do want a man to be more domineering, paternal, protecting, providing to some degree over a fully equal partnership. The most extreme form of this phenomenon is young women wanting a sugar d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herThen this post doesn’t apply to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herHere’s the thing. Every relationship we have whether it’s friendship, romantic, family etc. is transactional. We provide some sort of value to the other person in hopes that they provide an equivalent or different value to us. Your relationship may very well be relatively equally split in terms of providing the same amount of value to each other, however that doesn’t mean it’s perfectly symmetrical. For example, if the lawn needs to be mowed would you do it or would you expect your man to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herIm sorry but that’s simply not true. I’ve gone through years of my life where I physically felt incapable of crying (mainly through highschool) and I’ve also been through depressive periods where Ive cried for literally 2-3 hours everyday for weeks. It might have 1% to do with the physical structure of the eye but 99% of it is due to social conditioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herIt may be true that men can physically control their tears better slightly with smaller tear ducts but the actual reason men control their tears better than women is because men grow up without the privilege to cry in front of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI think you’re focusing too much on the word ‘daddy’. Romantic partners in general replicate to some degree the roles our parents play for us. It tends to go both ways in a healthy traditional relationship; the man would go off to work, provide for his woman, protect her, etc. and in exchange the woman would cook for him, clean for him, etc. Increasingly in society, women still crave paternal traits in their partner over a true egalitarian partnership, however often aren’t willing to put in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herFair enougg. I do think thats a bit weird of a situation that he would date you for 7 years and not realize at all during it that he wanted to explore other people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herDid he simply not want to settle down at that age? Or did he say he didnt want to get married? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herWere you 18-25 or him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herIn my experience a lot of guys are more than happy to settle down when they’re younger, but the average 20 year old boy simply doesn’t meet the standards of the average 20 year old girl in terms of career, money, experience, demeanour, maturity and looks. So what usually happens is once men do finally establish themselves as successful and attractive in their late 20s, 30s, 40s, etc. By that point the guy has an influx of women that wouldn’t have been interested in dating him when he wasn’t/didn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herBased on my experiences women tend to want to hoe around and party a lot in their late teens/early 20s and aren’t interested in settling down and getting married until their late 20s/30s. Typically by that point it’s difficult for them to find long term loyal partners because the men that are established by that age generally already have a partner, or have so many options that they don’t feel the need to commit to any one woman anymore. Many successful guys cheat on their wives on the low keep … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herHuman sexuality is incredibly logical. It only seems illogical when mental disorders, the internet, pornography, and people thinking they’re special/different than the rest of humanity. Fundamentally men & women don’t really change what they want in each other, it just adapts and shifts slightly as time goes on. But in general women are sexually attracted to dominant, successful, confident men while men want sexually a woman that’s gonna be fully submissive & loyal to him and he doesn’t need to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI assure you he doesn’t not cry because he is trying to attract me Why would he need to attract you if he already has you? That’s not my point. I’m saying that it’s physically difficult for men to cry in front of women because of years of social conditioning - and not just in the sense of “society telling boys to be manly”, but specifically in the sense that men recognize women want strong, emotionally stable, resilient, self assured, confident men, and our body and mind’s subconsciously underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herWhy not? A girl that stays home, takes care of the guy (cooking, cleaning, cuddling, sex), is loyal, doesnt go out partying or dressing lime a thot, I can’t see any reason why the guy wouldn’t be attracted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herno you don’t. There’s not even an effective way to gather evidence on this subject. Not everything is a scientific endeavour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herIve seen at least 3-5 fights and Ive only been drinking to bars a few dozen times | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herAnd a lot of those 40 year old dudes are taking home 25 year old girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herThank you for proving my point. Men adhere to traditional gender roles, eg. not crying in front of their girlfriends. Whether it’s subconscious or due to social conditioning or upbringing quite frankly doesn’t matter. If men started crying to their women in the exact same manner as women do currently to their boyfriends, women would find their partners as less self assured, less attractive, and whiney, whether you are willing to admit it or even know it yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herHow many times have you cried in front of your partner vs him crying in front of you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herMy knowledge comes from personal experience, stories from close friends, work environments, school environments, bars/clubs, parties, the internet, listening to women give their opinions etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:28 AM |
| 3 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herCould say the opposite about you, maybe the world is a lot more dangerous than you realize and you come from a privileged environment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI have one on my bedroom floor right now, and I just let it chill. It’s not hurting anybody | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herMy date was just one example. What you need to understand is almost every woman is outwardly egalitarian but when faced with an attractive man suddenly willing to perform traditional gender roles for them they tend to lose the egalitarianism mindset. Being a “daddy” is absolutely not my kink. If anything I’m slightly annoyed these trends exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herThe wifey performs “motherly” roles for the guy while the husband performs “fatherly” roles for the girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herYou don’t need evidence to understand human behaviour unless you are autistic (I don’t mean that as an insult). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI’m saying that even though she was fine with paying (as I said not every point applied 100% to all women) she still overwhelming expected me to initiate and was much more reciprocal and comfortable when I took charge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herit’s not that hard. It might not be difficult to for guys to outperform their female partners, but it is generally difficult to become a successful male because you are competing with other ambitious men. I think the better question is, once a guy works his ass off to become a valuable top 20% man and suddenly has a boat load of options, why would he want to be humble or faithful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herOnly a small amount of my knowledge comes from my personal experience. Mostly it’s from observing other people’s experiences and behaviours and noticing trends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI agree but then its also natural for the guy to expect her to do traditionally feminine things for him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI have never went to a club looking for a date, but they’re the ultimate place to examine what men & women want when they have options & are young and attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI agree but you’re just saying what I said in paragraph 1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:40 AM |
| 6 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herNobody does that No woman expects her man to lead in social situations, particularly ones that could provoke social anxiety? If you truly believe this then I don’t think you have very much social knowledge. As of current times, this usually isn’t the case. It might not be as prevalent today but I disagree, I think it is still widely the case. Even if the girl doesn’t expect the guy to pay, she’ll most likely prefer him planning the dates, driving them there, picking out the restaurant etc. Women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herThat’s not true. You’ve probably met thousands of women that would expect the precedent for men I set in this post. Do you think women go around vocalizing everything they want in a partner 24/7 even when it’s not relevant to the conversation? Not only that but if you haven’t met a woman who doesn’t at least want her husband to do the handy-work around the house then you don’t know many women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:21 AM |
| -1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herevidence If you need studies & charts to learn how people operate this isn’t the subreddit for you. You need to be able to use your own experiences with men & women and interpret things for yourself to debate how dating works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:17 AM |
| 0 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herHe could’ve been protecting someone or standing up for himself. Or somebody could’ve been disrespectful/hostile for no reason and they decided to settle it out. It’s not wise to make the worst assumptions by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:12 AM |
| 0 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herI’m noticing that and it makes it difficult to talk about dating in general. How can I talk about modern dating expectations with someone that isn’t even regularly going out and interacting with attractive young people in a sexually charged environment to even know what they like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:11 AM |
| 5 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herExtroverted women exist Even in relationships where the woman is more extroverted and the guy is introverted the woman will usually expect the guy to take the lead in social situations that may cause her stress, such as when negotiating a price of a car from a man, etc. Friends do this. There’s 2 issues with your statement. The first problem is that a relationship is very different to a friendship. While your partner may be your “best friend” as the cliche saying goes, men have different expecta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herThis right here is a good example of woman logic. Woman completely ignores the message of the post by hyper fixing on a particular detail rather than extrapolating that information and using it to debate the entirety of the situation. You basically ignored every single point I made based on the false assumption that my argument is rooted in insecurity. I said “men have to kill spiders” and your interpretation is essentially “oh this guy is just a pussy afraid of spiders, OP is just making excuse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herAnyone who will have an egalitarian relationship should have no problem planning and paying for half the dates. I don’t agree with that, the last date I went on we paid for ourselves and she actually offered to pay for me. But if you observed the body language, chemistry, and conversation we had on the date it was clear that she wanted me taking charge. I mean, I was the one that initially messaged her on Tinder, i was the one that picked her up in my car, but she still offered to pay for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herHow does someone deal with bears lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 02:11 AM |
| -3 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herAs I said, not all of these will apply to every woman. But the point is I think most women will want the guy to take charge in an social anxiety and/or threatening scenario, depending on how headstrong the woman is herself and depending on the situation. You even admitted the spider thing at least showing some part of agreement, even if its a very small amount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 02:09 AM |
| 7 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herElaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveWell it appears we are both biased towards our own genders lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIm saying women are less likely to help their partner work through difficult mental illness than men are. I am making a sexist point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI wasn’t saying you were a key part to my progress. I’m saying the key part of all the bullshit you wrote was that you didn’t contribute to any of the progress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveReading comprehension lacking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveProgress was made even if I wasn’t part of it Key part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf wasting time was your goal, good job. You didn’t prove any point lol. The women who commented and actually brought up points I read their comments and had a dialogue with a few of them. You added 0 value to this discussion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveYou spent 7 comments and added the same amount of value as if you posted 0. You only wasted your own time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI just always felt therapy and medication and stuff was bullshit. I know exactly everything wrong with me. My parents were fucking crazy and I had to adapt to their behaviours growing up. I guess I could try CBT or something and try and ‘heal’ but I am never going to feel truly comfortable around everybody. Alternative routes like psychedelics and spirituality are what I personally found have helped me in some sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveYou wrote like 6 comments insisting Im not gonna believe you just because you’re a woman. I’m telling you I am willing to listen to you, provided you actually flesh out a meaningful discussion. I can’t change your mind if you don’t think I’m going to listen to you. I’m just telling you, it has nothing to do with you being a woman and everything to do with your lack of effort commenting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIm not saying women find vulnerable men unattractive, Im saying you they only find a surface level of vulnerability attractive. If you cry a couple times a year over something like your relationship with her she would love it. If you go through a depressive episode where you’re suddenly in bed feeling like crying for a week, suddenly her empathy becomes a lot less apparent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf you tell a girl you’re depressed and she says something along the lines of “you can talk to me about it any time!! :)” what she really means is you can give her surface level descriptions of how you’re feeling. What she isn’t saying is volunteering to be your shoulder to cry on despite how it may be worded or how insistent she might be about you opening up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveBest comment itt tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf only it was that simple | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI think the last part is why she stuck around. Its endearing if you’re crying about her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:09 AM |
| 0 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI believe you. but theres a difference between seeing a few moments of crying/vulnerability vs watching someone really go thru their demons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveThat is messed up, and probably has to do with a lot of guys being with their woman for her body rather than who she is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveNah bro you went the complete opposite direction. Im not saying its that extreme at all jfc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf an IRL experience with a woman shows me one conclusion, and a woman on the stranger tells me something differently, why would I listen to the one on the internet instead of the IRL one’s actions? Especially since you havent made any effort at all. You havent made a single point yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveaddress specific points from specific paragraphs of my post with real life examples and explanations to refute them. If you’re sole basis is “I’m a woman therefore believe me”, why the hell is that good enough? Do you think Im pulling this post out of my ass? Im basing it off real life experience and conversations I have had with women who are just as womanly as you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveSo you arent interested in a discussion then, got it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveSure, address specific points from specific paragraphs of my post with real life examples and explanations to refute them. Im an open minded guy. However, if you’re just gonna say “it’s not true “ without any actual points or real examples, Im not going to listen to you because my real world experience points me to a different conclusion than what 1 stranger on the internet tells me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:54 AM |
| -1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI think most guys if they loved their gf they would stick by her no matter how difficult or crazy her mental illness issues are. Maybe you wouldn’t but i think most guys would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIt baffles me when I realize Im arguing with 40 year olds who have been married for 10+ years and no idea what dating or relationships are like anymore. Of course yall need studies for this shit, I dont need any studies. I both played the “stoic” guy and the “vulnerable “ guy and clearly saw which one produced better results for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI rarely use this sub. Dont comment on my post unless you’re gonna address the content of my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI dont think most guys share your mentality. I think most guys would tell themselves its their job to help her with her problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:44 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf you need academic studies to figure out what girls like this whole conversation is a waste of time. 99% of useful women knowledge comes experientially not from studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI think if a girl was going through a depressive episode most guys would view it as their ‘duty’ to help her get through it. whereas inversely, the guy would be expected to get through the hard times on his own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveIf we wanna be specific and argue semantics sure, my sentence gets the same point across as yours in fewer words and less time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveyea you will | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI think Johnny Depp has a little more leeway than the average dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveBroad generalizations can be very informative and helpful: ex: women like tall men is a generalization that both is true, yet has exceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI think everyone is either ignoring or missing the point of my post. Im not saying women wouldnt be supportive if a guy was complaining about work or shedding a few tears or something. Im saying if he was mentally ill, depressed or going through some real shit, he has a time window to get his shit together or she’s not gonna stick around most times. Guys are expected to handle our own shit and emotions at the end of the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveWhat does that prove? Women read fan fictions about everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveOk. Women don’t like mental breakdowns then, and by extension are less predisposed to being attracted to men with mental health problems. Surely you agree based on what you said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveOf course she’ll be rethinking her decision of picking him as a partner. Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:29 AM |
| 0 | Women don’t find crying attractiveDo you agree women often use their boyfriends/husbands/partners as their #1 go-to person during emotional distress? Sometimes it might be the mom or best friend etc. depends on the situation, however I think women often do lean on their partners as their main source of emotional comfort. As you said, women don’t want to be a guy’s only, or main emotional support. Sitting down with 30 minutes and holding a guy while hes crying isnt an appealing image, especially for young women . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveThe main issue is that when a man is crying, he’s also lost confidence, lost his self esteem, lost his drive and ambition, etc. Yeah, no shit. If a guy is that upset over something of course he’s gonna be broken down and not confident, driven, ambitious etc. You can’t detach the crying and emotions from the other factors, they go hand in hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveYou can dodge my question but that doesnt help disprove me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI mentioned it was situational in the 1st paragraph | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveHow long did you cry in front of her? how old are you both | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:14 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveI will believe you, just wondering the ages because im sure older women are more likely to not care about crying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveWhat if you’re crying because your father abused you for years and she had no idea because you kept it hidden for the 3 years you were together? And now that suddenly its out of the bag, the guy is an emotional wreck all the time and starting to get affected in daily life? Im talking about some real real shit here, not crying over superficial shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveHow old are you? Whos the youngest woman youve cried in front of? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveHow long were you crying for and over what subject | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t find crying attractiveThat doesnt mean excessive crying of course That’s the entire point of my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t find crying attractiveOk but you probably wouldn’t be any less attracted to her when she stopped crying. Once the guy stops crying, the attraction is still lost for the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:05 AM |
| 0 | Women don’t find crying attractiveNot only is there not porn of men crying that women use, what Im trying to say is if a confident male partner were to start crying a lot, his female partner would start viewing him in a less romantic/sexual light and more like a damaged person. I agree, who gives a shit, but im tired of seeing all the push for men to be emotionally vulnerable when the advice is somewhat disingenuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYes, it’s just important not to coddle or shelter boys because then they aren’t prepared for the real world when they have to deal on a daily basis with the boys who did grow up getting told “be a man and don’t cry”. Keep in mind just because you’re teaching your son right doesn’t mean other parents are doing the same. Teach him to be honest with his feelings and the ability to be empathetic towards himself, but I would also make sure he knows not to take shit from anyone, and that sometimes inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIt sounds like your son will have a good upbringing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIt’s not considered masculine for grown men to take advantage of weaker men, that’s some bitch type mentality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityNot to men. No well put together grown man celebrates bullies, even though a lot of boys are bullies when they’re younger. Once you reach a certain point of maturity as a man the mentality shifts where it actually makes you look weaker picking on the smaller guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThe men at the top will be toxic until humanity dies. You are only disarming average men who are already at a disadvantage to begin with my dissuading them from cultivating a sense of masculine pride in their own lives. You will never change the 1% by talking to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThe point is, no amount of societal reprogramming is every gonna change anything, because you’re only gonna curb the behaviour of average men with social consciousness. The men at the very top of any chain will always be correlated with toxicity and abuse of power to some extent in this world. If you go to a nightclub or a competitive work environment you will see very clearly the ‘alpha male’ mentality is not gonna die off anytime soon no much how many posts you see about respecting women on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityNo, overpowering someone stronger than you is considered masculine. Most respectable men don’t respect bullies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySimilarly, it isn’t masculine to take advantage of those weaker than you, however it is toxic masculinity. In this case, it isn’t feminine to take advantage of an innocent man who loves you, it’s toxic femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIt is, but men often have a false sense of innocence about women in particular (partly because of how a lot of women carry themselves) so many falsely assume that because a woman ‘loves’ them she’s incapable of hurting them or having bad intentions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThe feeling of anger/fighting is just a response to feeling threatened. I absolutely think a lot of young men suffer some version of PTSD yes, which is why they often look stressed/pissed off all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI imagine many males have mild cases of CPTSD from these types of situations yes, i certainly do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 04:30 PM |
| 4 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininity“Society” rarely explicitly says anything directly. Most people read between the lines. In the case of men, men nowadays are often told to be more vulnerable and open up, but if you’re around just 1 male who doesn’t have an emotionally sensitive mindset, it sets a switch off in your brain for self protection. As you are subconsciously always in a biological state of worrying about a fight breaking out, even if the environment doesnt call for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYou literally cannot prove that you don’t You must really think poorly of me if you think I care enough about lying on the internet. I’m telling you I don’t, either believe me or not idc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThe way you’re describing it, toxic femininity only negatively affects women, while toxic masculinity affects men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI’m saying you are displaying behaviours of toxic femininity (#5 from my post - assuming bad intentions by default). Your justification of it was that guys do this too. I am not one of the guys who do this, so theres no reason for you to bring it up to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYeah but the point is I never said a single one of those things. When I call you out your excuse is “but what about men!!!!!“ not realizing Im not one of the men you’re talking about….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI don’t say any of those things. You are spending too much time on the internet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYou are employing #5 from my post ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:51 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI politely disagree. I think in 10-20 years we will see a few books about female manipulation tactics as they become more widespread and society continues to forgive women for everything instantly rather than holding both sexes equally accountable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI’m saying once someone becomes a proven liar, I’m not gonna believe them by default | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:23 PM |
| 6 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIf a girl is insecure because she doesn’t think she’s pretty enough or whatever, it’s still her responsibility not to take her anger out on others. In the same way, if boys are insecure because they aren’t manly enough, it’s their responsibility not to project their insecurities on everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI agree we should have a more nurturing environment for everyone growing up. All I’m saying is that men have an innate desire for women, friends and respect. (Women do too ofc). Naturally, there will always be those with, and those without. Those without are going to tend to become aggressive until they receive what they’re after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityAgain, this is the woman who was recorded saying “tell them you’re a domestic abuse victim as a man, they won’t believe you”. She is a proven liar with hidden intentions. Why in the fuck would anyone believe any of her testimonies unless there’s evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? And if such evidence did exist, why isnt he locked up if theres pictures of bruises, etc like you say? (although those can be faked) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityNot only did I witness it, I also watched how she tried to use my dad to guilt trip me for spending time with him. She would involve me in their fights and even made me watch sometimes. Ironically enough, she spends an incredible amount of time on Facebook posting about abusive men getting locked up, seemingly unaware of the own physical and emotional abuse she is capable of. She is also someone most women would assume is mature, intelligent and successful. She has a lot of social connections an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityWhat should I have put in my post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI dont think its usually men. I think women are just more likely to report it while men are more likely to try and forgive them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI hardly followed the case & I know she physically assaulted him, shat on his bed, said “tell them you’re a man, they won’t believe you”. And she had the audacity to call him out as the abuser first. Please, without using the lazy argument that they were both toxic, provide specific examples of anything remotely comparable to the 4 things Amber did against him, that he did to her. I want specific examples, and I want them compared against her actions and in the order in which the actions occurre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityAgain, I am not talking about the ways societal expectations to be pretty or submissive or something get internalized and become insecurities in women, that’s a separate issue altogether for another post. I am talking about the ways toxic women leverage social power that people may not be cognizant of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:55 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIdk, my mom was always the one who instigated violence on my dad growing up, not vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityBecause men often get called out for their toxic behaviour, while women are often excused for theirs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:44 PM |
| 0 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityHuge correlation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:42 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityUm no they weren’t equally toxic, and this is another example if where women justify female abusers by saying “they were both bad!!“ She did him way dirtier than he did to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI love women, I cant stand toxic people, and I especially am disgusted by people who defend toxic behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininity8 comments in and you still havent contributed 1 point of value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityWhy cause you don’t like to be challenged? If your version of challenging me as “what about men” then proceed to ignore the points about men I do bring up, thats fucking pathetic. Ive heard more logically cohesive arguments from stoners after their 8th bong rip. You clearly just think Im here to shit on women for no reason. Nothing I can say is going to change your mind, because you are a close minded person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:19 PM |
| 6 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityNo offence but your perspective is clearly someone who doesn’t know what it’s like to experience male hormones in an environment with rough males around. It’s not a conscious decision to get angry or pretend not to have feelings. It’s a biological impulse to not appear weak and get ostracized from your peers, that will never go away so long as the boys with the most advantages - money, friends, strength, girls, status, continue to abuse them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:12 PM |
| 8 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIf you aren’t careful, you’re gonna sabotage the naturally more empathetic boys with this mentality as the naturally less empathetic boys take advantage of them. You are ironically helping the most toxic powerful men get more power by disarming the average man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 01:00 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI gave you 3 instead of 9, because you didn’t ask for a comprehensive list of all men’s bad behaviours, you just said you wanted me to prove I recognized that both sexes were capable of having their own specific bad behaviours. Your argument that because I only gave you a few instead is fucking stupid. You didnt ask for an equal list, which would be dumb anyway because this is a post about toxic femininity, rather than one of the million posts about toxic masculinity. Dont comment on my posts ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:59 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYour debating strategy is bringing up things I never mentioned (feminism) while ignoring things I did mention. Ive seen better arguments from 12 year olds in english class if Im honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityA lot of “toxic masculinity “ aren’t things boys are ever explicitly told to do, but rather what socially competent boys recognize will bring them the most desirable outcomes in life, whether with friends, women, money etc. Men tend to be goal oriented rather than emotion oriented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:38 PM |
| 10 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityAnd it will never change, because nature is dictated by the people with the most power, who will always abuse it. Telling weaker guys not to listen to “toxicity masculinity” while they watch others achieve success with the very tactics they’re told to avoid is fucking stupid. No smart guy would listen to that advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:37 PM |
| 4 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIm saying aggressiveness as a man is usually self protection, not maliciousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThinking doesnt seem to be your strong suit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:34 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIt not only exists but we are gonna see more of it increasingly over the next 5-10 years until society starts holding women equally accountable as men. Amber heard v J depp was a good milestone of progress. We will hopefully see more progression of equality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityWhen you grow up and want a discussion lmk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySo does toxic femininity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityBecause there are 100000 posts already about it over the last 10 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:25 PM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityMy post isn’t about women with insecurities. I’m talking about in the way some women leverage their influence in social relationships to get the outcomes they want, at the expense of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:21 PM |
| 3 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYou didnt read the first paragraph of my post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:16 PM |
| 7 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYou can be successful without shitting on other men Do you know what it’s like growing up with boys? It’s competitive, everything’s a fight to prove yourself. Unless you come from a good background with a good family, a good economic background, good genetics, and a healthy supportive environment, chances are you will feel a deep aggressive urge to fight for your status in society. Women don’t understand this, because quite frankly women don’t know what it’s like to try and be successful in an e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:14 PM |
| -2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityDisorders aren’t as black and white as “having it” or “not having” it. The brain is very complicated and I imagine many young people are in a position rn where they have certain behaviours of certain disorders but may not fit all the criteria for clinical diagnosis (or havent even been diagnosed) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:11 PM |
| 8 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitybehavior pushed on men as a part of their gender role Close, sometimes men get pushed aggressively into male gender roles by their overbearing fathers. But often, it’s not that men are “pushed” into wanting to be bigger, stronger, richer, more successful than everyone, etc. It’s that we recognize those are the most desirable traits in getting treated good in Western society, and thus the only strategy is to either adapt, or accept being a loser (at least that’s how it may feel like) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:07 PM |
| 6 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI could take an hour and write about men-specific bad behaviour, but Im not going to because you’re being hostile and clearly trying to prove some kind of point against me rather than listen to my post. And you complain feminism is bad? When the absolute fuck did I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:04 PM |
| 5 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityReally? My mom tried to leverage me and her other kids as a weapon of guilt because she had relationship problems with my father. This situation happens all the time too, where a dad wants a relationship with his kids but the mother doesn’t allow it because of her personal issues with him. This is a pretty common occurrence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:02 PM |
| 7 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYour comment took like 2 mins, this post took 10-15, bad logic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityFemale toxicity is sometimes (Im gonna take x away if you dont do y) or (Ill be nice to you, unless you do z then Im gonna go crazy and ruin your life) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:58 AM |
| 8 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySure. Using disrespect as a form of attraction/leverage (negging) Giving the cold shoulder/ignoring them rather than vocalizing your internal issues. Double standards (ex. I can fuck other girls but she cant have sex with other guys) I could list a lot more those are just a few off the dome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityYeah but Im not gonna call guys out for bad behaviour or try to protect women as a whole if women aren’t gonna do the same thing when each other’s bad behaviours hurt people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySome of the best era of hiphop too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:52 AM |
| 10 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityCluster B disorders are becoming rampant among young women, just look at the rates of BPD in women vs men, i believe its like 4-5x that for women or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIt’s because women often take advantage of naive men. Their power is the emotional energy they provide to the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:50 AM |
| 8 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI’m not blaming feminism. I’m saying in the same way a small portion of men tend to adopt certain gender specific malevolent behavioural patterns (i could get into male specific ones if you want) there are women specific forms of emotional and psychological abuse that are more common | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:36 AM |
| 4 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI disagree completely so unless you wanna delve deeper into a specific point its your opinion v mine. I think every single thing i listed, women are more likely to do than men. Every single one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:32 AM |
| 4 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityThere are 2 ways we can define toxic masculinity. A skinny guy might not feel ‘manly’ enough and then have a decreased self esteem as a result. But he didn’t do anything wrong. The kind of toxic masculinity Im talking about right now would be a big guy thinking he has the right to pick on smaller boys just because of his size advantage. He is the abuser. I am talking about the abuse of power here, not the manifestation of insecurities, which everyone deals with. I think we agree men tend to have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityIs there any one in particular I can flesh out a bit more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:24 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityToxic masculinity is using masculine energy malevolently, toxic femininity is using feminine energy malevolently. Being insecure about being pretty enough as a female, or strong enough as a male, and then letting those insecurities affect your self confidence is a different issue than what Im talking about in this post. Im talking about specific examples of psychological abuse that I am seeing pop up very frequently, usually done by women in this context (guys have their own set of toxic behavio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellAbsolutely. Me personally I wouldnt be ok with scenario B. If i got the impression that she only wants me because of the phase of her life, and not because of me specifically , i wouldnt be interested in her. However if we have a spontaneous connection where I can tell she’s attracted to me I wouldnt turn it down on the sole basis of not being the first one to have sex with her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellAgreed, although landing a date isnt very hard. Whats hard is finding a partner who you’re attracted to, have a connection with, will be loyal to you, and feels the exact same way about you than you do them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI’m not trying to remove any independence or agency from my partner when I say I’m possessive. But strictly in the context of our relationship, yes I do view my partner as ‘mine’, in the sense that she doesn’t have free reign to do whatever she wants with guys. If I say something makes me uncomfortable, I expect her to listen to me and follow what I say. I’m not controlling about it btw. I just tell it how it is, and if she doesn’t feel like that kind of relationship is what she want then no har… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 12:19 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellThe thing is I think Im actually pretty good at it, it just feels like im playing an act. Ultimately i dont want to be exciting 24/7 lol. Sometimes people just want to be calm/normal around their partners. I hate setting up some unrealistic expectations only for the relationship to fall apart once it gets serious and we realize we arent exactly the same people we are when we met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIts not even about purity. Its about the fact that the guy specifically chose not to focus on sex in order to build something for himself, while the girl both got to have sex with many people, and end up with the stable guy too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYeah i know, but it just feels unnatural sometimes pretending to be a dickhead specifically so a girl will like me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellHonestly I think most guys just put up with toxic relationships because the girl is good looking enough. I think that would be why the hot crazy girl trope exists. Whereas in my experience, the toxicity is actually a part that women find exciting in itself. Men willing to do bad behaviour seem to turn a lot of women on, even when targeted towards them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 01:05 AM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellMy knowledge about older women comes from toxic females family members not dating experience per say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWe don’t have a sex drive for no reason, we get horny because it’s in our nature to have babies. Understand when I say that I am not talking about personal decisions, in which someone may actively and consciously choose not to have children. I am talking about biology, meaning if you were somehow not influenced by the many societal factors right now making people not want to have kids: financial reasons, social reasons, comfort, fears, medical issues etc. we instinctively have a subconscious des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellCan you give me an example of what kind of abuse we’re talking about here? I know what love bombing, gas lighting etc. are but what abusive behaviour specifically are you talking about? do you have a specific example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellMaybe a subset of men think that way but I dont | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBiology, but that doesn’t mean everyone is going to feel the biological urge to have kids. Its related to your hormones & experiences I guess. Still, we’ve been reproducing for hundreds of years. It seems silly to suggest we arent naturally inclined to want to have kids, although unfortunately modern day dystopia has created many conditions in which most people actually probably dont want to have kids right now with how fucked up the world is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI appreciate your concern but I think you’re taking the worst possible interpretation. Im just describing the first instant most humans in their life develop some sort of romantic feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:44 PM |
| -1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellwhere’s the accountability for the boys/men who were manipulative? The idea is: I’m not manipulative; I’m an option; therefore if a woman would rather hang out with manipulative guys rather than me because they’re good at leveraging their assets, why should I have be sympathetic? She didn’t have to go with him, contrary to popular belief. Women always talk about how emotionally abusive, manipulative and toxic so many men are, but they always fail to mention the part where the woman has safer opt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellThank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWell if you can’t fall in love in this life time, there are plenty of other beautiful experiences you can obtain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellFuck it, when you’re in vegas may as well play your cards lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 10:26 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellLet me ask you this: Why is possessiveness inherently bad provided the couple is happy together? Most people don’t want their partner cheating, so most are already possessive to some degree. I just take it 1 step further from, not only do I not want my partner to have sex with other people, but I dont want her giving any sort of romantic or flirtatious energy to any guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:32 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI am a possessive man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:23 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBecause I don’t want other guys enjoying the intimacy or attention of my girl even in a non sexual way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellSee, its not that Im worried that the flirting is gonna go anywhere. Its the flirting in itself that bothers me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:04 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBased on my past experiences, she might accept you for how you look but she’ll still actively be taking notice of attractive guys anytime they leave the house. For me i can curb my “bad behaviour “ so to speak, meaning if Im in a relationship, sure I could still find other women beautiful, but im not gonna be staring at other ones, telling my friends how hot x random chick is, daydreaming about some cute girl I met, etc. I know those things might not be cheating in itself for some people but to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellAt this point in my life, whatever happens happens. If i get cheated on, that would suck very badly. But im going to drop her. Im not gonna put up with someone that doesnt respect me. Cant be afraid of negative outcomes forever as this will prevent you from reaching any potential good ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellThe real reason is because bad guys will tolerate and accept more bad behaviour than guys with good heads on their shoulders. If someone has a traumatic childhood or past or something they might find it difficult being comfortable around someone emotionally well adjusted, because they constantly feel like they have to act like a different, perhaps disingenuous “clean” version of themselves around ‘good men’ that feels unnatural and perhaps even uncomfortable if thats not the type of men theyre u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBut thats the thing. The girl Im gonna end up with I wont be settling with in any way. It wont even be a situation where I love her emotionally but would prefer if she was better looking, I wouldnt be with someone unless I liked her in both aspects | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYou’re absolutely right, im bad at wording things sometimes sorry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:21 PM |
| 6 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI agree with you, it’s just hard to accept a woman knowing she likes me now that she wants a stable guy, but probably wouldve passed for a more exciting dude when she was younger. It’s like she got to have her cake and eat it too, almost playing us as a safety net. I think a lot of guys feel the same way as me who weren’t necessarily hookup material when younger but became relationship material as we got older. I just dont know what to do, because I want a girl to be as attracted to me as the “s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellThe idea is that we would build a life together and improve each other so we can get married one day rather than marrying asap at 18 like idiots with no money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI’m not telling anybody to do anything. Im just saying that most guys want a girl who is as least promiscuous with other guys before us as possible - you can see this for yourself with how many guys care about body count today when I imagine it wasn’t even in the conversation 20 years ago. If guys want to achieve this, they need to actively pursue it rather than sitting back on their asses waiting or being bitter about it. They have to chase that outcome. By the way, while slut shaming is wrong,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI just said previously, women nowadays arent waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIt indicates you find them attractive, and not only that it’s letting them enjoy your emotional energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIm saying she won’t wait, so try and get her when you’re young. The amount of women saving themselves for love rn after very scarce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYes. Me want them tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellFinding a wifey type girl =/= wanting to get married asap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYour reality =/= reality. There are many walks in lifes, many perspectives, priorities, anomalies, cultural differences and exceptions to every rule. Your view and experiences with love sex dating and relationships does not speak for the rest of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI agree, self love is #1 always :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWhy would you be jealous of your partner having sex with another woman, but not get jealous of your partner indicating he would like to have sex with her subconsciously by flirting? have you and your husband talked about these kinds of things together btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:08 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellEhh… I agree don’t be bitter about being single. However, we are biologically wired to want to be with people, and it’s pretty easy to actually become an attractive male if you know what you’re doing and have the opportunity to work on it. You can take an average looking dude and give him a fresh cut, some jewellery, a tattoo sleeve, fresh clothes, and get him to bulk up a bit. Suddenly the guy is now 3 points more attractive, getting treated better by society in general, and probably a lot happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellA lot of guys don’t on here don’t have confidence specifically because they were ostracized by their peers for how they look | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYeah and it broke up because of issues like this. If you literally have no jealousy or attachment towards your partner, why not just open up the relationship? I just don’t see why flirting doesn’t count as emotional cheating. That indicates a lack of loyalty to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellExtrapolation of data, meaning the guy looks at his life trajectory and assumes his partner likely had a similar one: ie, I sacrificed having fun in my 20s to build a career for myself and my future family, so wouldnt my sweet beautiful wife who loves me very much? I think a lot of guys think their partner had the same mentality, not realizing a lot of women just want to have fun in their 20s specifically because they know theyre gonna settle down with 1 man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWhich is why I said AGGRESSIVELY pursue; ie get jacked, tattoo sleeves, a fresh haircut, jewellery, nice clothes, confidence and start approaching shy 18 year old girls who seemingly dont have much relationship experience. Thats what I wouldve done if I could have my time back. The few women who are both attractive and havent been fucked by a lot of guys is always a rare pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBut I’m also more forgiving of it because after so many years of being with the same person, it’s bound to happen at some point. I would never be forgiving of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI agree. If men want women with low n counts they should aggressively pursue them early in life. Waiting around for it to happen is a complete waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellGood question, I dont know. A lot of times the guys n count is higher. Im talking about relationships where the guy didnt get much attention until later in life and gets pursued by a woman who typically has more experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI don’t know if we disagree on anything. I too think guys shouldn’t be overly focused on their flaws, nor should they let their ability to get a partner affect their self esteem. As far as the last paragraph: are you saying ugly people should give up on relationships completely rather than trying to find the best they can do? Because that seems like a very sociopathic point of view. I highly doubt if another man gave you sexual attention from this point in your life until the day you died you wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellMy insecurity in a relationship isn’t about getting left, it’s about getting cheated on: and that includes verbal/emotional cheating, like flirting with other guys. Plus one of the girls from work literally pulled me aside and told me about how they would have private conversations about how this girl was attracted to me and having dilemmas because she had a boyfriend. Please tell me you don’t think flirting with others while in a monogamous relationship is normal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWell then maybe you just don’t fit the type of woman I’m talking about. Ive seen a lot of women complain about toxic ex’s, then go back to them. This indicates the man has more power over her than she does over him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshell18-19 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellActually you’re right my bad, he wasn’t conventional looking. But he had extreme sex appeal: his confidence, expressiveness, androgyny, mysteriousness, different eye colours, sharp facial features. Not to mention one of the best, most famous and well respected rock musicians of all time lmao. The average guy isn’t even from the same universe as David Bowie. Washing your face certainly wont help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI have 80-90 matches myself all of whom I found attractive enough to swipe on. Lets be realistic here, an attractive person giving you validation is an ego boost. The difference is women don’t need to try hard to get that validation, whereas guys need to be blessed or try really really hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellVery common to not want a promiscuous partner, even if the guy is attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellNo, it’s because they waited a long time for sex so they assume she would’ve too, especially since women were historically the ones who pushed aggressively for monogamy while men were thought to want to stick their dick inside everything. The mentality behind it is: I was patient enough to wait for the love of my life, so why wasnt she? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIm saying if you are more in love with them than they are with you, they have more power over you. Which is partly why women constantly go back to guys they know aren’t good for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIf you want to think about it like this: if a couple broke up, whichever partner comes back to the other person first to get back together, has less power than the other person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIm not looking for a casual girl, nor have I been since I was 14 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellBtw to your point: dudes only think their gfs are delicate flowers when they themselves had little sexual experience imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellImo girls are usually into the most attractive packaging of whatever aesthetic or type she considers. If she’s popular, or emo, or down to earth she’ll tend to gravitate towards the most attractive version of him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellJust google “im uncomfortable with my girlfriends sexual past” and do some honest reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellAs always, the internet exaggerates and makes everything worse than it seems. Tbh most guys probably should stop using it and just go outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellRegardless of your gender, people will find you attractive or unattractive Right, but the problem is when seemingly everyone finds you unattractive. Then you need to decide what you want in life, find what’s preventing you, and work towards it or curb your goals to become more realistic. quality can not be compared to quantity Agreed, but quantity still gives you an inflation of self worth. Getting 0 matches on Tinder is significantly a worse outcome than having 900+ matches, even if 99% of guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellSome of you come on here to make snarky comments and reach for any way to discredit the message of OP without having a thoughtful dialogue about it. Im starting to think some of these posts are striking too close to home for some of you and making you guys uncomfortable, hence triggering a defensive response. That’s not a conducive way to improving the relationships between men and women, which are currently fucked rn if you haven’t noticed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYou don’t see an issue with the scenario because you’re not a man. Most guy likes to attach an idealization of purity to their wives. The concept of her sleeping with a bunch of men before you is inherently uncomfortable as a man unless you have a comparable number of sexual experience. In the scenario we are talking about though, the woman has significantly more sexual experience than your partner. In case you haven’t noticed by the million posts about it every day, guys are uncomfortable think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellNo, it’s also for the 25 year olds, 24 yos, or 27 yos that fall in love with the first woman that ever shows any sort of romantic interest to them, and start getting delusions that its some kind of match made in heaven or something, rather than just another partner on her list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:08 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellOk, so ugly guys should just give hope of finding a partner? Well, you’re a woman so that’s a privileged take, because no matter what you look like you’ll always find a man willing to be with you. The outcome you want, unattractive men to just make peace of their situation, is a biologically impossible outcome rooted in testosterone and male hormones. Therefore we need a solution that works better for men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI was reading the red pill forum when I was 16 and thought it was complete bullshit. I’ve come to realize there’s more truth to it than some people would like to admit - otherwise we wouldnt be seeing women complaining about their asshole ex for the 100th time, wondering why tf yall didnt dump him the first time he was disrespectful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWe aren’t talking about sexuality with them, we’re talking about having a first innocent elementary school crush, Jfc. and it’s only in the post because it is a defining moment in psychosocial development that will affect your highschool years dramatically once you realize if girls like you or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshell‘Beta bucks’ is slightly outdated imo. Money doesn’t matter to gen Z women too much in my experience. Hell the few girls i went out with were paying for my things on dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:57 PM |
| 0 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellWhen people make comments like yours, it tells me they’re here with the intention of proving me wrong, rather than listening to what I have to say and acknowledging any points of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIf you’re not picked, chances are you’re not attractive to people. Yes. Hence why if you do want to be perceived as attractive (most do) it’s important to recognize what is perceived as attractive in men and proactively work towards achieving it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIm a pretty reasonable guy open to an honest discussion. If there’s anything in my post you disagree with feel free to let me know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIf she pursued you, how does that qualify as you going for what you wanted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI think this is where most men and women can agree on. Unfortunately it seems like a lot of guys either struggle with the things that make women admire them simply because they don’t understand women, and the guys that do get a strong level of female admiration early in life tend to exploit and abuse it to have sex with as many women as possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellexactly, power seems malevolent but its about the context of the word | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIf you actually wrote a lengthy, detailed post that was genuine I would read it. If youre just trying to say “men are shallow and dumb” of course I wouldnt read that, wtf? My post has way more content than that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellAnd they are not likely to be virgins themselves There are some guys that do fall into this scenario though. 30 year old virgins are extremely rare yes. But i think you will find virtually no female virgins at that age. Whereas a few guys who just focused on their career when they were young who may have been perceived as boring to women suddenly find themselves in a position later in life where they are suddenly attractive. These men need to know that the woman they’re gonna end up with likely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI have the right to speak about anything. I’m just noticing trends with women I’ve noticed that I wish someone told me when I was 14 or 15. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYeah because “bad boy” isn’t viewed as a flaw. Its usually actually considered attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:58 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellFor me, once a girl reaches my minimum hotness thats great. Im not trying to go hotter; that just means more competition from other guys. A 6-7/10 gf (hate grading appearances) is perfect, and from there you can focus on the quality of her personality, which should most definitely be more down to earth hopefully than megan fox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:57 PM |
| 7 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYeah, but that’s because we live in a backwards society where men are meeting their first girlfriend at age 30, thinking she was waiting around for him like he was her, not realizing shes been with 10-15 guys before him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellOk, but what about women without a bunch of deep emotional traumas. What about just normal highschool girls who grew up in good families? They are looking for the most “perfect” guy they can find when they’re in their prime - the tallest, best looking, funniest, most charming, most socially intelligent. Every woman eventually lowers her expectations, but that doesnt mean those desires for perfection or ideal arent initially there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIts a combination of you being her best option + her knowing you have other options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellJust be glad you grew up in any era where it was normal to be your imperfect self. The world is very shallow and disordered right now. Im sure trends will turn around soon but right now its very difficult to be young for both guys and girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:31 PM |
| 7 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellOnce you reach a certain age that becomes a self harming mindset than a self protective one. For example Im 22 years old. Chances are im likely not going to be a girl’s first, unless I meet her when shes 18 and a virgin or something. At some point you just gotta accept where you stand, and work from there to achieve your optimal happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:28 PM |
| 3 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIt’s a spectrum. The more attractive she is the more options she has and thus she is more likely to have dated more guys, experiencing more heartthrob. Me personally, once a girl reaches my threshold level of attractiveness it doesnt matter anymore if she gets any hotter. I imagine some girls realistically know they dont have a shot with the hot popular guys, and just build connections with the guys who do try talking to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:25 PM |
| 7 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellTheyre rich, famous, have extremely conventionally attractive sharp features (ie piercing eyes, jawline etc) mixed with androgynous styled that make them stand out to women. Is that supposed to be something the average guy is expected to compete with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellMay i ask when you graduated? Shit’s a lot different now. Even when I was in high school 6 years ago a lot more dorkier dudes seemed to be able to get girlfriends etc. Times are changing rapidly the last few years, social trends are hyper progressing with shit like Tiktok. Seems like you used to get by a lot better just being yourself; nowadays you need to package yourself as a certain aesthetic to even get noticed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYou’re missing the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellEducational =/= scientific. Think about philosophy for example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshelleh, all the girls that worked there told me she had a huge crush on me the whole time she was dating this guy. like i said they would jokingly call me a “homewrecker”. Even if she had no intention of physically cheating on him with me, if i was in his shoes I wouldnt like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:47 PM |
| -1 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellIn every relationship, the partner that needs the relationship the least to benefit their quality of life has the power in a relationship. Typically a successful well emotionally rounded guy knows he has a lot of quality women options, so wont be as stressed about 1 particular relationship. He will be less likely to feel like he “needs” her, as much as she feels she “needs” him. This isn’t to say their relationship will be one sided, unenjoyable or shallow. He might still love & appreciate his w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellI just did. She would call me her ‘work boyfriend’ she called me cute before they started dating and, most importantly, my other female coworkers started jokingly calling me a “home wrecker” despite the fact that I had no interest in anything romantic with this girl. I wasn’t physically attracted to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshelli agree with that. it’s also smart protecting yourself from being hurt tho in the process of chasing success. i have personally watched a few naive dudes too many get taken advantage of by girls who wanted the “hot guy” despite their bf believing they were loyal. I personally had an experience where a coworker from work would flirt with me, call me her work bf, ask me to get lunch etc. This girl had a boyfriend the whole time, whom Ive met and is kind of small & nerdy. It breaks my heart for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:28 PM |
| -5 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellA lot of personal experience only. I couldnt point to you a single study to back up any of my claims although im sure they do exist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:23 PM |
| -7 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellYou dont need data to recognize societal patterns unless you are incapable of making your own social analysis. You can feel free to disagree with my post, im just saying what ive personally noticed time and time again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:15 PM |
| 6 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellits worth protecting yourself from losses, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:04 PM |
| -11 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshelluh, i had crushes on girls when I was in middle school? I only included that because thats usually the age humans start getting crushes on each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 5 | Women’s dating preferences in a nutshellim not saying you cant get laid as an average guy. im saying if the girl you were getting laid with wouldve been approached by a more attractive guy first with a worse personality he would’ve probably been the one getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityBuh bye angry Bane! By the 10th time you say it it starts to have less of an impact. Starting to think you just like talking to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityRemember when you said you were done commenting like 5 comments back and 6 hours ago lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIts not about holding ppl accountable. Im just saying what it is. Toxic masculinity won’t die not because men are evil or something, but because it’s fucking hard to develop the traits required to sexually attract women if that isnt your main focus from an early age. 18 year old boys pay attention to what 18 year old girls find attractive and it sticks with them for the rest of their lives. If he has success just working on himself and meeting people, he’ll probably do fine for himself. If he st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIm not talking about nazis lol. Im talking about the popular boys in high school who would use the n word or f word and girls would complain about it but still hang out with them because they were attractive and popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI can answer your comment if you’re actually willing to listen, instead of being rude and making batman jokes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI still enjoy flirting & teasing. But ill tease her about things about her personality, or silly things she does/says etc. Just not about other people. Although in the context of your guys’ situation I understand you both know it was a joke and were ok with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI do have male friends, but the relationship I want with my friends is different from the ones I want with my partner. I also am sorry if it came off as me implying you were some kind of “turbo slut”. Thats not what I think at all. I think our views on relationships differ in that you view your husband as somewhat of a friend. I too want my partner to be my “best friend”. But like, I want to be viewed as more than that too. I want her to be attached to me in the same way that Im attached to her.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNot even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:44 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityBecause virgin guys tend to be the ones with the most insecurities and the least confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:29 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI know. You aren’t interested in widening your perspective, or considering that your own point of view is incomplete/missing details. You’re simply trying to find every way to confirm a bias about bitter incels hating women cuz they can’t get pussy when in reality the situation is way more nuanced than that. Thats ok though. Have a good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou seem angry.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI like the way you think you’re offending me, it’s kind of cute. You mean how you dislike women I don’t dislike women. Although you are not beinf a shining example of one lol because men have to cosplay as assholes or else they won’t be able to ram their dick into someone? “Men” don’t have to cosplay as assholes, boys do. And only to some extent, and only situationally, and they need to balance it with positive traits that women like as well. They cant just be an asshole. But they need to explic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThe things you’re okay with joking about reflect your values. The way couples flirt with each other early on in a relationship hints the kind of dynamic you 2 could have together and is how you establish boundaries between what’s flirting and what’s disrespect. If a girl thinks me joking about having sex with cheerleaders in any context, even a totally joking one where we both know it’s not true, is just fun flirting, we most likely have very differing views on relationships and what we’re looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitydo you still look at other hot women you see, or watch porn, or masturbate to other women when she’s not there or isn’t in the mood, or look up photos of hot women on Instagram, or think about other hot women? Absolutely I don’t do any of these things. I realized when I was younger it would make me a hypocrite for me to look at porn or stare at other girls knowing damn well I wouldnt like the same. I know most guys don’t think this way though. Like, you start dating a chick, and you completely s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNo, of course I don’t expect her to think I’m the hottest guy on Earth. I do expect her to stop thinking about, fantasizing, staring at or talking about other guys while we’re dating though. I want 100% of her feminine, sexual and emotional energy. Is that wrong of me provided I do treat her good? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityCarry on disliking men for no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIm saying the fact of you liking it or not isn’t what makes it asshole behaviour. It’s objectively disrespectful to tell a girl you’re into that you’re fucking a bunch of cheerleaders. Whether or not the woman enjoys it isn’t what makes it asshole behaviour or not, because women love a lot of asshole behaviours only until they come to find out that the guy is genuinely an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIm just saying, the fact that when girls first start getting attention from guys they gravitate towards the toxic ones isn’t a coincidence and it has more to do with biological roles and male-female dynamics than it does with your personal experience as an individual. Women don’t like when you hold them accountable of this pattern, because they interpret it as an attack or a statement that they don’t deserve to be loved or something. Im just saying from a guys POV you dont just want to just be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWell, guys can’t assess whether you’re a good judge of character or not when they meet you. Also immaturity in itself isn’t a bad thing, people are supposed to be immature when they’re young. Chances are there are lonely guys the same age who are equally immature. Lets say a good guy did somehow know you were a bad judge of character at that age, yet still had a crush on you. Would you want him to not pursue you? Would you want him to wait until you had the experiences you needed to mature? Woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou seem to think that women think masculine men should treat them like shit. That’s not what I’m trying to say. I’m not even talking about masculinity in itself, I’m talking about toxicity which is often positively correlated with success especially at an early age. Some of the nicest guys I met were also the most masculine. You don’t even need to be masculine at all to be toxic. You can be a 130 lb tiktok fuckboy and play with girls emotions (often happens in highschool) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitystill in high school are ya? i grew out of that stupid mindset by end of uni. most sensible ladies do. So you had that mindset until you were what 22 or 23? Is that anything different than my post is saying? I’m not saying you NEED to be an asshole or even that you should strive to be. Im saying if youre pursuing women age 17-23 you will likely have better results if you’re purposely a bit of a dickhead rather than if you’re just a fun or cool person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityFair but you also admitted that at one point in time when you were the same age as me being aggressive or a dickhead or w/e wouldve worked on you. I promise you, you are not an isolated case of this happening. Thats basically the basis of “red pill” is that JUST being nice, funny, chill etc isnt enough to make women sexually attracted. It might make them like you, develop a connection that sparks into attraction sure. But if’s by far more exciting to young women by simply being aggressive & domi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityBtw I hope you dont think Im saying only aggressive guys get girls or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI agree, I pray for option 1 lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWhat am I asking for that’s a lot though? I just don’t want to be a girl’s safety net after she had casual fun fucking a bunch of guys while I chose not to pursue casual sex. Not to mention if shes fucking only based on looks/sexual chemistry she’s probably getting almost exclusively with men she finds more viscerally attractive. To expect to have fun with the hot guys only to expect a sweetheart to settle down and have kids with is a toxic mindset. Not saying thats your mindset necessarily but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI get that. But also, if Im disciplined enough to do those things while not hooking up w a bunch of chicks I have no reason to think she cant be too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:31 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI know, a lot of guys have the same mentality too. Me personally I would rather have a loyal girl to help each other build our lives with but I understand some people are more independent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIt might be cool within their relationship but I cant see any appeal to that kind of “teasing” or flirting. I see that as a huge red flag. I dont want me and my partner teasing each other about getting with other guys. That wouldnt be fun for me, it would make me hate her and sabotage our relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIf your husband had similar experience then it makes perfect sense. I believe in the law of attraction. If i had 20 one night stands I would be hypocritical to judge her for the same thing. As for your 2nd point: A lot of girls want to have fun in their 20s before they settle down. I never really had this mentality. I was always looking for the long term even back when I had no experience. If I partied and had fun hooking up with a bunch of different women I wouldnt care if she did the same but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityDo you understand that being “relationship material” while hotter guys were “hookup” material is bad? Even if she loves me & won’t cheat on me, I know that I wouldn’t had met her standards of attraction if I wanted to hookup with her. By the way, I don’t even want hookups, I want a relationship. But even if shes 100% loyal, in this case the problem is the fact that some hot guy got to fuck the love of your life solely because he was good looking and she was horny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI respect you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitySee the problem is virtually all of my core experiences with women throughout my life were negative lmao. Relationships with my mom, female family members, coworkers, ex’s, bosses, mutual friends etc. So even though Ive become better looking and more confident now that I’m older and even hung out with a few girls out of my league I’m almost always physically uncomfortable around women which makes it hard to form positive experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitywhich one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI think a lot of women focus on the number of the body count because they don’t fully understand why guys care about it. It’s not about the number itself, whether you took 4 dicks or 5 dicks in your life it doesnt really make a difference. Im more interested in things like: Is she gonna be loyal? Is she relationship oriented or casual sex oriented? Does she regret her hookups or did she actively enjoy them? Am I more attractive than her past partners? Is there gonna be any intimate experiences i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWhat happened was I was friends with both the popular kids and this kid in class who got bullied growing up. She made a comment one time about how Im the only nice boy in the class or something, some guy asked why doesnt she date me and she instantly shut it down lol. I know its a random memory from 10 years ago, but when your experiences with women are largely based on a collection of sporadic negative experiences you can’t help but be influenced by the information you receive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThats why I dont want to end up with a girl with a lot of one night stands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI think girls convince themselves that they wouldve dated their awkward boyfriends in high school because the thought of rejecting your current partner seems wrong. But realistically as someone very self aware of how people perceive me, most of the girls into me now absolutely wouldnt have been into me with how I was back then. In fact I literally matched a girl on Tinder who used to say in middle school that I was the only nice boy in the class but that she had no desire to date me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:02 AM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityLike… when my husband and I were first dating, he joked that he was fucking all the cheerleaders, and I joked back that it was ok, cuz I was banging the whole volleyball team. Neither of us were, obviously. We were just shooting the shit and teasing each other. Teasing is fun. That’s kind of the thing I’m talking about. To me, telling a girl Im “fucking all the cheerleaders” is absolutely asshole behaviour even if its just teasing. I see no point in even saying something like that unless you’re … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityHeck no would I take being treated like garbage by a man. Did you always have this mentality tho? Or did you get treated like garbage by a few guys to learn when you were younger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI did that and I regret it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWhat should guys do when they get girls they know wouldn’t have been into us when we were young, socially awkward and less attractive? Should we accept this and be happy we found a partner? Or is it disrespectful to ourselves to date a girl that didn’t like us until we got hot? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitySure, but he may have been those things when he was younger, got attention from women, built self confidence, and then was able to naturally be confident, funny and charming around both men and women later in life. Guys usually are their most aggressive/toxic in high school when they hit puberty, and the more positive social experiences they have the more they tend to soften up and become properly socialized. If guys dont have this experience or have it at a later age in life they are at a huge … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:17 AM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNot necessarily an asshole. Although girls didnt like me when i was young nerdy and ‘myself’ either. You have to find somewhere in between | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitywomen CONSTANTLY come in here and say what they think and feel and you guys CONSTANTLY DISMISS IT. I can’t speak for other guys but that’s not true to me. I don’t immediately dismiss the comments, sometimes I agree, sometimes disagree and sometimes it even widens my perspective. Also, a lot of times women aren’t actually disagreeing with the message of the post, but rather just interpreting the phenomenon differently in a way that’s more sympathetic to the woman point of view. For example, if I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI don’t have anything other than anecdotal evidence and very long discussions with other men’s experienced that mimic my own. However a few women in this thread admitted falling victim to this trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:40 AM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWhen was I rejected? I’ve been on dates, had sex, and been asked out. I have many attractive matches on Tinder and Im only slightly above average looking. My post has absolutely nothing to do with physical features and it’s disingenuous for you to assume otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI agree. Nonetheless, young men in high school/uni are going to have to decide if they’d rather become more aggressive and get more girls to like them or if they’re going to try and take the long haul and wait for a girl that wants to settle down with 1 partner after she likely dated a lot of more aggressive hostile guys first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityAre you interested in genuinely listening to my perspective or are you looking to confirm your bias about me being ugly? If option A I’ll take the time to address everything you said in a detailed response. If option B then I wont bother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:37 AM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThe most masculine men start out as the most toxic earlier in life, and then their girlfriends/wives tend to soften them up over time. If we were to analyze the same 2 guys when they were boys or adolescents I can guarantee you speaking as a man that the one who was fuelled with more testosterone at an earlier age was more likely to be a bully growing up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:04 AM |
| -1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitySometimes men socialize women into this behaviour, and sometimes women socialize men into this behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:59 AM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNot every time are virgin guys malevolently acting nice to try and get girls. This does happen yes. But also sometimes friendships naturally blossom into relationships through time. A few girls who I worked with and only viewed as friendly coworkers I found out had crushes on me. It’s not unreasonable to think that a guy is genuinely just being nice in the hopes of trying to make a connection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI know youre probably gonna think im looking for some sort of ‘gotcha’ but Im happy for you that you overcame your past trauma and found some good people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:41 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou can easily prove me wrong right now and tell me if this post is accurate or inaccurate based on your past relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityHave you never heard some dorky awkward guy being told to ‘just be himself’ or ‘just be confident’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou are being very accusatory and are clearly not interested in having a genuine conversation. If a woman told you her father or mother abused her would you tell her to just get over it, or would you be sympathetic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:55 PM |
| 4 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou're the one making these If/or claims. If you don't recall YOU made a thread regarding the behavior and perception of BOYS who have the warped belief that no one in the world exists besides bad boys and bad girls screwing each other. Let me try putting it in a different way then because that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that both the stuck up popular girls and the shy quiet girls both fantasize about some variation of the bad boy archetype to different degrees. I referenced what you comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityLike I said, I would love to be able to be fully honest about my feelings but it hasnt worked for me. Lets use a common example: you’re dating a girl and she makes a comment about finding a guy attractive. If I take the time to explain how that hurts my feelings and makes me insecure, it accomplishes nothing. I know she’s just gonna tell me whatever to make me feel better. She might say that looks don’t matter, or that attraction is more than physical or something like that. Not only is what she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:42 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityK, but not all mental health problems comes from generational issues that are compounded, and even if they were the same effect causes many men’s mental health problems as well. Who your parents are and how your childhood was has a way bigger impact on you than what happened in the 60’s and 70’s. I had an emotionally neglectful and at times verbally abusive mother. Some of my earliest memories are watching her pull a knife on my dad and making me watch them argue and fight. Now my dad was far fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitystill in high school are ya? i grew out of that stupid mindset by end of uni. most sensible ladies do. Why are you typing so many comments disagreeing with this post if you fell for the same thing Im talking about when you were in uni? You literally are proving my point. Girls adopt this mentality early in life, realize it isnt sustainable and then leave the guy for someone less physically attractive or less toxic that treats her better. The difference is you’re looking at it from the perspectiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 07:02 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityWomen could unironically mitigate this issue by being more honest about what they look for in a partner so young men with no social skills go on the internet trying to find out why they don’t magically have a girlfriend yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 06:50 PM |
| 13 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNo one is to blame if young men have tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing or perceiving any other human or relationship dynamic in existence. That is mental illness and a perception issue that no is capable of curing. Why are women’s mental health problems society’s fault and men’s mental health problems their own fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityFor example, if im dating a girl and she does something I dont like, Ive come to learn that women respond better to being “reprimanded” in some way, whether it’s giving them the silent treatment or disrespecting them in some way. Actually taking the time to sit down and patiently express your emotions to a woman is pointless. Women naturally have a defensive barrier against men from being scared of angry men throughout their childhoods that prevents her from being 100% empathetic to you, because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNo, but its part of the reason why women are generally more socially adjusted than men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:17 PM |
| 0 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI understand that now. I shouldve made myself get over that fear. I really didn’t understand a thing about how people or relationships worked back then. In fact a few girls did start showing a bit of interest near the end of school, but my self esteem and social problems were so bad that I never got the courage to do anything about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityBtw I agree with your premise that men give each other more tools in the workplace, and I would counter it by saying how women give each other different tools too in different ways. For example dealing with mental health and emotional problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityAnd the men who arent taught to be combative get absolutely fucked in the man’s world. Maybe they’re happier deep down with less bottled up anger, but in terms of materials- possessions, wealth, status, power, women, respect, you literally have to be combative when appropriate to earn these things. So as a preservation strategy fathers teach their sons to work hard and not take shit from other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityCould you elaborate what you mean on men giving other men tools? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYou can think that if you want, and I probably did used to be angry, not so much at the fact that I didnt get girls but at the fact that I felt like I was lied to/gaslit about the reasons. When I got older and better looking and started noticing more attention from girls I still found that acting like you dont give a shit is very attractive to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:18 PM |
| 11 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI can hopefully explain why. Confidence comes from a self perception of value. In the Western world, as men we’re valued for our strength, confidence, competency, etc. Being a nice guy seldom gets you the same level of personal achievement as being 100% ego driven. Hence why the top men in virtually every category also tend to be very competitive and ego dependent. To expect a guy to be able to keep a positive mindset in the same environment with the same goals is unrealistic. To be conventional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityFirst of all, blame is very different from pattern recognition. If I say x group of people tends to do y, that’s not blame. It’s acknowledging trends. What I am saying is men can’t solely be blamed for the emergence of toxic masculinity, because young women often pursue a toxic expression of masculinity either consciously or subconsciously. Both parties contribute to the dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:02 PM |
| -1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityNot too much. I pretty much just talked to whoever talked to me. I had extremely low self confidence. I did get the urge to talk to a few girls but I also assumed they probably wouldn’t be interested in me, not only that I had a lot of anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:54 PM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI understand I don’t know what it’s like from the woman’s perspective. If I had the same attention from women that they get from men, youre right that would probably change a lot of my views on relationships. I think there’s something you and a lot of women don’t realize about being a man though. Women give men very conflicting ideas about what they want in a partner, and so we’re usually faced with the choice to either try and be a good person and simply survive or to tactfully be a dickhead an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:31 PM |
| 4 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThe idea that men collectively control a narrative is wrong. The reason toxic masculinity exists in relationships, the workplace etc is because it’s just a competition to who’s willing to suffer more (and make others suffer) for desired outcome. Men are always going to be the ones to do this, because men’s value is placed on their ability to provide something, not for just existing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityHere’s my perspective: I don’t believe the guy that dated you when you were 18 years old is ‘winning’. But I also don’t believe it’s fair to say that you were just into those type of men because of societal conditioning. Even if you’re fed social messages, you still have to have that seed of desire in you to unlock it. If we’re gonna forgive women for making bad dating decisions and regretting it because of social programming then we need to provide the same type of compassion towards isolated m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:56 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThats what I mean. It’s a 2 sided dynamic. Women are more attracted to what they’re accustomed to. Men try to accustom to what women find attractive. Innocent women grow up seeing toxic men as leaders and think thats how men are supposed to be. Innocent men see how women let attractive guys get away with more shit, and thus become more toxic themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI mean Im 22 and still scared to talk to girls lol, yet I also prefer girls who are shy & innocent. I think my problem is growing up I assumed shy, innocent girls also wanted a guy who was like that too, when in reality they tend to want their counter opposite, a dominant leading partner. So instead of pursing the types of girls I was interested, I sort of waited around expecting that somehow the universe would just give it to me. I guess my dilemma is that if Im in your husband shoes, I either … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:11 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinitySaying “women do this thing” doesn’t literally mean every single woman on earth are the same. Culture, age, trauma and many other things affect partner selection. You’re able to recognize widespread patterns while also acknowledging there are exceptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIm saying in this case men are merely trying to adapt to what women give evidence of being attractive through their partner selection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityMy own decision to date an older man was partly influenced by me trying to fit into gender roles - the whole "choose an older man, they're more settled, they'll take care of you". I sort of believe that and was very, very wrong. Of course I wish I could go back in time and do it all again but, sadly, I cannot. I have a feeling that if my current partner came along at the same age, I would have chose him, but I didn't meet him then. Here’s the problem: you say you think you wouldve went for your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:25 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinity“Society” doesnt romanticize anything lol. the reason these things are popular in society, is because women like the idea of them and find it exciting. thats why you see so many young women reading novels about abusive relationships with a ‘good’ side, or watching 50 shades of grey, watching You, fantasizing about serial killers, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:04 AM |
| 5 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityJokes can have an element of truth to them. Young women romanticize toxic relationships, hence where those jokes come from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:56 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYoung women literally joke about wanting a hot guy to “ruin their life” all the time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:54 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThe correlation between advantage and ignorance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:50 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityGirls like me more when I’m mean to them and show disinterest in them than when I’m attentive and show empathy, from experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:49 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI appreciate your story and I hope we can have a conversation without judgement. However, you didnt answer my question. You simply said that you and your husband both had heartbreaks. Almost everyone has a heartbreak at some point in their life. By that logic, if I slept with 1 girl, am I expected to relate to a woman who’s been with 100 guys? I get that people often find each other during different stages of their walk in life. 2 broken people can sometimes find and help each other heal, which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:47 AM |
| 10 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityBeing nice and masculine is incredibly difficult and something most men are only able to hone in on as they get older. The reason for this is because the modality of being nice, sensitive, thoughtful, generous and empathetic doesn’t tend to be what brings men the best outcomes in terms of conventional success as it allows other men to walk all over you and overpower you. Being confident & masculine is much more likely to be grouped together with negative traits such as being an insensitive assho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinity“If you dont want to date these women then don’t” obviously, but its not that easy. Virtually every woman has a relationship past shes not proud of where she let her attraction get in the way of her moral standards for men. im saying this is a biological trend, not just a few select cases. I read in another post you mentioned your husband was very gentle and sensitive. You likely wouldnt have found his personality as attractive when you were younger and wanted to have fun. How do you think it fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:21 AM |
| 14 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI wasnt attracted to the “hot popular mean girl” in high school, I was attracted to the quiet shy girls. However Ive come to realize that the quiet shy girls are into the hot popular guys too no less than the popular girls were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:14 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityAll I’m saying is this: If women are willing to accept a morally dubious guy because hes confident or fun or hot or whatever, then you need to be willing to accept the possibility of that same guy hurting you emotionally. Dont date assholes because theyre attractive and then expect a gentler guy to be there to heal your heartbreaks later in life. In fact, I would go as far as to say it’s cruel to pursue toxic men when you want to have fun only to look for a gentle guy to heal your emotional woun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI think both are true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityAll I’m saying is this: If women are willing to accept a morally dubious guy because hes confident or fun or hot or whatever, then you need to be willing to accept the possibility of that same guy hurting you emotionally. Dont date assholes because theyre attractive and then expect a gentler guy to be there to heal your heartbreaks later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 15 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityAll I’m saying is this: If women are willing to accept a morally dubious guy because hes confident or fun or hot or whatever, then you need to be willing to accept the possibility of that same guy hurting you emotionally. Dont date assholes because theyre attractive and then expect a gentler guy to be there to heal your heartbreaks later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:05 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI didnt say women date men because of those characteristics. I said they are willing to accept these negative characteristics on the contingency of the guy having a balance of positive characteristics as well. The part that bothers me about it is only the hypocrisy of how so many women voluntarily accepting these toxic men then complaining later in life about the majority of men being toxic or abusive, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 09:02 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI think we’re in agreement on what happens, our only disagreement seems to be that you think it’s normal and I dont. Women just shouldnt be surprised why toxic masculinity exists and will continue to be perpetuated. As long as nature rewards certain behaviours, they will always exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:55 AM |
| 8 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityYeah no, I definitely wouldnt accept a girl only on the basis of her being hot. If she had red flags I didnt like it wouldnt work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:48 AM |
| 7 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityThats my point. Women will accept & turn a blind eye to homophobic & racist if the guys fun/hot, but they wont usually accept a guy who’s not homophobic/racist who isnt as fun or hot until later in life. Obviously they want to have a fun/hot guy whos not bigoted, but you cant always have your cake and eat it too. And given the choice women would sacrifice a man’s morality over his attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:47 AM |
| 32 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI knew a girl in high school that was the text book shy girl who never had any dating experience until her last year. This guy on the sports teams who picked on other guys would flirt with her and got her to develop a huge crush. Keep in mind, this girl never probably held a boys hand in her life before this, and this is a guy who in private talks with his boys about how much hes fucking and how hot every girls ass is. This type of phenomenon exists all the time, its not just the troubled girls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:44 AM |
| 20 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityI’ll reiterate what I said in another comment as an example. Women will complain about men being racist/homophobic, then date those racist/homophobic boys because they tend to be hotter/more fun over a guy who has the views they actually want whos perceived as boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:41 AM |
| 3 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityLet me give a common example: Women will complain about things like homophobia & racism, then date hot/fun boys with racist & homophobic views in favour of “boring” guys who have the correct social values they want to push. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:39 AM |
| 5 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityIt’s also not that I think being nice makes a girls pussy wet (being nice doesnt make my dick hard either) but girls often say they like a guy who’s a little mean to them - I could ask the same thing why is this getting them wet unless they have some kind of emotional trauma? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Young women encourage toxic masculinityUh, if the more fun guys are more toxic then yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 08:28 AM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIt's a pretty complex problem. Women don't actually want to be pursued, harassed, raped or beaten by strange men. But many women also fantasize about being dominated by a man they like. Exactly. It’s not that the act itself of being “sexually used for his pleasure” is heinous or morally reprehensible to you - it’s just that you don’t want to experience it with any random guy, or in a dangerous setting that risks your safety or reputation. You want it to be with a man that you’re attracted to, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI think if a girl saw something in a porn and wanted to try it I could do that. My problem with it mainly is the idea of the love of my life letting a guy completely use her and degrade her sexually besides myself. If i was the only one she explored it with, then I would be fine with it and maybe even honoured at the intimacy of it. Unfortunately I dont have any of these fetishes so if I do get with a kinky girl, chances are she already did this stuff with many, many guys before me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI see why you would think I’m an asshole for looking down on a woman for her sexual kinks. But consider it from a guys’ point of view. From basically the moment we’re adolescents we’re hammered down with social programming about consent, respecting women’s boundaries, being respectful and polite, etc. And from an early age, the boys that don’t listen to these rules are often the ones that get most of the girls. Therefore, to go your whole life making a concerted effort playing by the rules of be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI wouldnt even call it a moral purity because I dont think there’s anything morally wrong with being into those things. In my personal experience it’s just very difficult emotionally to simultaneously be in love with a girl and think about hurting her. Not only that, as I mentioned in a previous comment if the girl’s the one into the kinks in the relationship, whatever partner she’s with has to deal with the fact that everything kinky, rough and degrading she likes done to her another guy showed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI think this is where the differences between men and women come in. Men and women are both capable of being possessive but it’s clear guys place more attachment on the innocence of their partner. This is hypothetical, but thinking about a gf who I share a vanilla relationship with having a BDSM fling with some older guy who she fooled around with when she was younger is absolutely revolting to me. Like it physically pains my stomach even thinking about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemBecause you’re a 26 year old woman, without even knowing anything about what you look like I can already know you’ve been hit on for hundreds of guys in your life time.Im a 22 year old introverted average looking guy. The little experiences I have with women we were not doing extreme BDSM type stuff, because I would have to actively pursue that. We are not the same level of “damaged goods”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemHonestly if shes a 19-22year old girl or in that age range I would probably feel differently about her yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemThe thing was we were compatible in virtually every other area, so this is something I would either like to get over or im just gonna have to find a vanilla girl or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIts a spectrum. Even choking is an act of domination | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemHow old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemThanks, it’s not related to kinks but related to the idea of “roleplaying” in relationships. I see a lot of scenarios where the woman favors dating sweeter more sensitive men, but they encourage their boyfriends to adopt a ‘bad boy’ aesthetic: tattoos, ear piercings, dark shirts, certain haircuts, jewelry/chains, etc. First of all i guess did you even notice this phenomenon too, and what if so what do you think about it? Sure, the boyfriend’s the one that gets to have sex with her, but isnt it k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemCan I get your opinion on something unrelated but kinda related? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI agree with everything you said, but also those submissive kinks are extremely possessive and idk, “using” in nature. Unless the girl you’re trying these things with hasnt let anyone do those intimate things with her before you, you have to cope with the fact that some other guy taught her to do these very degrading, submissive acts to the girl who you love. I think thats the part that bothers me about it the most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemHave you considered that the guys only treat you with respect so they can continue having passionate sex with you, and dont actually respect you as much as you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemBut you don’t understand how men operate. By default Im going to try to do whatever to please her, even if I dont like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemSure, now just imagine its a girl you really like who’s not only asking you to do it, but you can tell she’s visibly more excited by the degrading sex than the “vanilla” type. Then it becomes a lot harder to say no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI would absolutely love if women got therapy for these issues instead of wanting me to simulate raping them then spoon then 5 mins later lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemEvery comment keeps bringing up the fact that kinks are done in a safe setting but thats not the point 😂 My post is the fact that women even have the fantasy itself and see no contradictions with their belief systems. A feminist into being degraded even as RP would be like a homophobic guy who goes home and watches gay porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:17 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemYour body doesnt know the difference between whether your sex act is roleplay or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemShes sexually aroused by the sensation of abuse while dissuaded by the negative aspects of being abused, like social ramifications, guilt, conflict of self, loss of independence, etc. Theres no invisible wall that the word “fantasy” is protecting her from. The fantasy aspect is the fact that its in a controlled setting. The experience shes enjoying however is no different than what it feels like to get abused for real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:03 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemSure, find me a woman that doesnt have any violent or degrading kinks lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemDo you genuinely think I don’t understand that? Im not saying women want to get raped for real, im saying a lot of women DONT want to get raped but want to simulate the experience in a safe environment with a trusted partner. We can speculate on how much they actually want to experience of it for real - I read a post recently about a feminist who was travelling in south america and started adapting to the machoism, cat calling nature there, to the point where she started getting horny by it. I i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:55 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemBecause we arent doing the same thing to each other. Shes in a more degrading and subservient role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:50 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemHonestly I made this post because I really liked a girl a while ago and when she told me her sexual kinks it made me feel weird about it. I was going through a dark time and she was like an innocent ray of sunshine that brightened my day, so hearing a girl I had such a pure idea of talk about essentially having rape fantasies made feel really weird about her. It feels like I would only be able to enjoy these types of things with a woman i didnt care at all about. When theres real emotions involv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI don’t “care” what others do, I just find it openly hypocritical and kind of comical to be very pro-woman 99% of the time and extremely the opposite during the 1% of time youre fucking lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemDo you not see the irony in discouraging abuse while simultaneously becoming very aroused by it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemi definitely don’t think you hate your race. I do think you likely have some kind of insecurity, or possibly internalized racism rooted somewhere in your brain that couldve come from past traumas and experiences that mightve led you there, even if its subconscious. Do you agree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:29 PM |
| -1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemBecause to me you cant separate a kink from your mind and desires. Even if you don’t directly want your kink to happen, its related to some element of your psyche, or past experiences or something. If a woman likes being submissive only in bed, they likely have an untapped/repressed desire of being submissive in everyday life. A kink is like a way of getting a burst of energy in an area you’re constantly malnourished in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:24 PM |
| -1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemyou’re misunderstanding what im saying. Im not saying i would mistreat her for having a dark kink, in fact I might even explore it with her depending on what it is. What Im saying is it changes the dynamic or the relationship. If she expects me to treat her badly during sex, then also have the discipline to treat her like a princess during the rest of the relationship she better have the upmost respect for me. If shes causing unnecessary arguments or bitching about something, then they i would p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:18 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIf you like something in a sexual context, arguably the most vulnerable situation in life, yeah id say it does say something about how you generally feel about the rest of the time. For example if a guy had a cuck fetish, i would assume he probably has low confidence, is this unreasonable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI dont think my opinions matter. Im just saying my point of view and hoping someone can say something to either change my mind or make me feel justified in my beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:10 PM |
| -5 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIts not about the fact about whether it’s a fantasy or not. The fact that the woman I love, want to marry, have kids with, hold hands etc’s vagina gets wet thinking about some brutish guy dominating her aggressively in itself is enough to make me lose respect for her and is honestly quite heartbreaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:08 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIt doesnt matter. Once I know thats what she’s into, the relationship’s over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemNerdy virgins absolutely get judged for their sex life. This isn’t shocking information to you. Similarly, yes I will judge a woman on her sex life ONLY in certain situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:57 PM |
| -1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI hate to tell you this, but if I found out my male boss was a cuck I would probably have a bit of a giggle at the very least. To me it’s almost exactly the same problem I have with the female situation. If my boss let other dudes fuck his woman, Im going to have less respect for him at an authoritative level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemThank you for being honest, I agree with what you said and even agree with what you said about how men treating women badly/like children even lead to this egalitarian push. Unfortunately, the result of this egalitarian packaging means a lot of naive men neglect key aspects that women inherently find attractive like the ability to fight, persevere through pain without complaining, masculinity, confidence, dominance etc and focus on the wrong areas of trying to be ‘extra sensitive’ to find a girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:53 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemYou said it much more succinctly than my post was able to, and I wish you were able to convey it instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:44 PM |
| -5 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIf a woman wants me to call her bitch during sex because it makes her horny, she really shouldn’t be shocked if she starts getting called a bitch at other times around the house too. I’m sure you think that’s juvenile of me, but I personally find the idea of the woman I love fantasizing about being raped to be terrifying, whether just fantasy or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:42 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIm not saying your coworkers should call you anything. I’m saying if I was your husband, it would be jarring for me to call you my dirty bitch one minute during sex, and then sweetheart an hour later when we’re watching a movie or something. That concept is absolutely jarring to my brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI completely agree that we can experience conflicting emotions at the same time. I think we need to address the reasons why we like those things though. Even if a song is about murder and violence the person is likely into it because of the beat, melodies etc. Men like MMA and can simultaneously beat the shit out of each other because fighting is a masculine imperative and they have respect for each other. Women are turned onto submission because i believe it’s a feminine imperative to be submis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemWhat do we disagree on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI understand it absolutely. Women know its “wrong” of them to want to be raped, verbally abused, and degraded, and the “wrong” factor makes them hornier. My point is that it’s difficult for me to take a woman seriously as a politician, mother, teacher, businesswoman etc knowing that shes into these types of things. Not that theres anything morally wrong with it, but i think a lot of women take themselves very seriously as being role models in society or something. Women care a lot more about loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemKinks are absolutely logical. Every single kink you have can be traced by some part of your biological and psychological development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemYes but im pretty sure if a racist dude is watching interracial BBC porn he’s probably ashamed of it and doing it out of some element of self hatred. I dont think its just because it’s taboo because a lot of things are taboo. Like he wouldnt be trying to find a girlfriend that wants to “explore” it with him in a “safe environment” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemPeople dont feel aroused about random things though. It’s based on a combination of your hormones, genetics, childhood upbringing, social relationships, first exposures to sex, porn you’re desensitized to etc. it’s not that women are just randomly getting turned on about being degraded. If you like being submissive in the bedroom, thats indicative of you liking being submissive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI also agree completely with what you said. Being submissive is a biological imperative for most women. Therefore if they don’t have that feeling during everyday life as society gets more egalitarian and gender roles are forcefully being removed, it manifests itself in extreme ways (such as extreme kinks ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:58 PM |
| 4 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemThats the thing, I feel like no matter how many women i talk to, the fact that ive gone very in depth in lengthy psychosexual relationships with women about how being treated like shit makes them horny put a seed in my brain that cant just be removed like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:56 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemYou are focusing on the element of privacy. Im focusing on the actual kinks themselves and how they misalign directly with most women’s belief systems about male-female dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemWho said I wouldn’t respect someone’s boundaries? I would respect a woman’s physical boundaries always. I just would have a lot less respect for her and also question her logical consistency | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:34 PM |
| -2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemBut her co workers don’t know about her sex life, why would they treat her differently in that case? Im the one having sex with her. I just feel like if im in a relationship with a woman and I know she loves being used, degraded and being slutty then if she started complaining about something after having degrading sex it would be a lot more difficult to take her opinions seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:31 PM |
| 2 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI get that, but if the idea of a guy dominating you, or being abusive, or forceful, or misogynistic etc. gets you so excited to the point you’re willing to completely disabandon your moral & political views for 10 minutes until you fuck, then you want to be treated like an upstanding feminist woman immediately after? Thats the part I cant wrap my head around logically | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:21 PM |
| 4 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI agree, which is exactly why Im interested in hearing some perspectives other than my own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:18 PM |
| 0 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemDefinitely not true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menSure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menWomen of integrity wouldnt tolerate bad behaviour from guys simply because theyre hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menAll the more reason for men with integrity not to settle down with 1 woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If you know other guys complimenting you is a nice ego boost why would it offend you if your partner didnt want you wearing revealing outfits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:10 PM |
| 0 | Women prefer toxic menIf the most attractive men are the biggest assholes that should say something… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menIt doesnt take a genius to realize that most women fantasize about the tall good looking asshole early in life only to settle for a less attractive “nicer” male later in life. Some variation of this phenomenon is so common that it becomes possible to ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menI read a lot of “red pill” shit when I was 15-16 and had no dating experience and thought it was bullshit. In hindsight now at 22 with a few years of actually experiencing how women’s brains work I agree with most of the stuff I used to think was bullshit. So actually it was real experience that pushed me this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Whats the respectful way of telling a girl she looks hot? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menYou wanna be someones second choice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?The only time a super hot woman compliments me like that is if I spend a lot of time talking to her, Im not good looking enough to get randomly complimented on my looks like that lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:06 PM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menThe difference is that I don’t think most guys seek out toxic women, whereas I feel like a lot of girls do seek out toxic guys either directly or by indirectly being attracted to traits toxic men generally carry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?The fact that you specified it being a super hot woman and not just a woman shows that part of the appeal is the person complimenting being attractive, and not simply the ego boost. Perhaps even more physically attractive than your partner. So no, if you’re looking to get attention specifically from someone that’s more attractive than your partner, I would think there’s some sort of sexual dissatisfaction in the relationship. But again, we probably completely disagree. I have very rigid expectat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 11:13 AM |
| 2 | Is sex actually an issue?Its not about blaming men vs women. Im only interested in dating women, and I dont want to date a hoe, so I dont worry about who any guys have sex with. If I was gay Im sure I would have the same standards for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 10:48 AM |
| 3 | Is sex actually an issue?Ok so im talking to an actual child lol. Wait until you’re 23 then tell me how many of your friends dont/havent done casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 10:45 AM |
| 3 | Is sex actually an issue?a lot of virgins have still done other stuff like oral, making out with random guys at bars, fingering/handjobs, sending nudes, posting sexual videos online etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 10:38 AM |
| 6 | Women prefer toxic menPeople dont date in their early 20s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 10:12 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If you arent monogamous your views on relationships, dating, sex, life, and people is gonna be totally different than mine. Monogamous people have different rules for dating. Part of the appeal for me of a long term relationship is not just having access to that person, but also the fact that I have something other people dont get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:32 AM |
| 4 | Is sex actually an issue?No, it’s because virtually every woman you talk to has some kind of past she’s not proud of or a hoe phase from her late teens-early 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menNon-damaged Girls from very good upbringings are also very attracted to damaged, toxic men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:24 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menYeah thats bullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menNo, thats not what Im saying. Im not talking about a guy who goes out of his way to be nice to a girl for the sake of trying to impress her. Im talking about the guys who were nice their whole lives and “played the game right” only to see morally dubious guys get way more success in life/women, and then realizing the “nice guy” mentality isnt a good way to go through life. Of course, women cant fathom this, and automatically assume you were being fake nice to get pussy. They cant comprehend the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:21 AM |
| 7 | Women prefer toxic menI wouldnt let a hot girl treat me like shit just so I could date/fuck her, and that should tell you something because Ive only been with 1 girl in my life and havent been laid in 2 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menLol, so you want me to get punched in the face now? Yall wild. You sound like you used to date assholes and are getting salty because Im saying you are partly responsible for your dating decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:09 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menIt’s not just that. Women do this thing where they see tattoos, piercings, dark clothes, jewellery, leather etc and their brains go: danger = attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:07 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menThat was just 1 example, Ive had dozens of girls admit the same thing to me at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:05 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menAh yes the “OP is a virgin” trap card. Very conducive to a productive & fruitful discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:04 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menCompletely different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:02 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menNot just hood girls want gangsters or bad boys lmao. Shy, quiet “innocent “ girls are attracted to these boys too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menThe thing is I feel like a lot of women already instinctively know the “right” guy’s theyre supposed to date and will actively go against the grain and go for guys their parents wouldn’t approve of etc. So i disagree that its a “lesson to be learned” so to speak. If anything its more just that a woman wants to explore a variety of different types of guys before she settles down and the “hot toxic asshole” is a very appealing flavour for a lot of young women even if they dont plan on settling dow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menMy point is I knew the type of girl I wanted since I was in highschool and my “type” hasnt changed once.. ie i didnt favor hot slutty crazy bitches when I was younger only to want a nice traditional safety girl to settle down with. Whereas i see the opposite phenomenon in an extreme amount of women I talk to. If you wanna address the actual content of what Im saying go ahead but you gotta do better than calling me socially awkward lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:57 AM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menI would bring up a few points: 1. Many times women do acknowledge red flags, posting about it on social media, and having their friends tell them to stop seeing the guy. But a lot of women ignore the red flags deliberately. A lot of women will show attraction/interest in boldness, loudness, arrogance, etc. and mistake it for confidence. but usually again the guy is egotistical from the get go, but if hes good looking enough most women will tolerate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menI know, but if Im dating a girl and found out her old type was assholes/badboys Im probably gonna dump her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menAll of those things you listed, but my only take away is that women don’t know what’s best for them when they’re young and are susceptible to being controlled by fantasies and emotions. Thats it. You can write a paragraph explaining why and you’re probably very correct and self aware about it. But the fact that it’s so common for the “dangerous bad boy with the heart of gold” trope to appeal to so many women is part of the reason I dont ever plan on getting married because I honestly dont think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menYeah no thats a woman thing. I personally notice quiet girls more than the loud ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menI dont think a guy’s an asshole for getting tattoos, a leather jacket etc.. but many times those kinds of physical displays are to build a facade of toughness and masculinity that is easy to see through. If a girl finds those things in particular attractive thats a sign of naivety to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:42 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menI don’t agree with the “sow your wild oats” thing at all. That sounds like an excuse women say to hoe around because they know they have a nice guy waiting for them to take care of them and save them anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:36 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menThe tricky part with that is obviously navigating boldness and trying to initiate sexual tension without making her feel uncomfortable or being aggressive about it. “Assholes” dont care if they make a woman uncomfortable, because if she stops talking to him and calls him a dickhead hes just gonna try and fuck someone else. For guys who genuinely want a long term relationship, it can be difficult knowing the line between being flirtatious & forward vs being arrogant and creepy, especially with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:34 AM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menMost people with low self confidence also have some form of depression, social anxiety and neuroticism.. these issues don’t necessarily exist seperately of each other, they can co-exist and cause each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:31 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Of course. When a guy is hitting on you like you said he usually wants something from you whether sex or a date. therefore if you arent interested in the guy its a little threatening because you need to now find a way to actively shut him down and are uncertain how hes gonna react, etc. Still, if guys all showed 0 attention to women when they dressed up and went on clubbing most women especially young women would feel insecure about their looks and start comparing themselves imo. Thats all im sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I think if ur in a monogamous committed relationship you should only need/want attention from your partner 🤷♂️ If you seek validation from other guys theres either a lack of satisfaction or a lack of loyalty in the relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:21 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?The psychology behind it is interesting to me. First of all, we need to acknowledge that women don’t want to get hit on by every guy, and will probably only enjoy it from really attractive guys. Therefore its convenient to say that they hate the attention from all men, but if they got hit on by no guys whatsoever they would feel insecure about their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If your partner said he doesnt want you to go out or wants to pick ur outfit how would you react | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I was just quoting what they said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I was just confused at the way she answered the question. She didn’t explicitly say “yes women do this” or “no women dont do this” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?That seems like a straight up lie tbh. I 100% agree that women in general prefer compliments from other women, I disagree that it’s because guy’s compliments are more sexual tho. Drunk girls hype each other up by complimenting each others boobs, ass, etc and they usually love it and will reciprocate. I just wish women admitted that part of the appeal of dressing up and going out to clubs is to look good and get attention from guys, even if theres no intention of hooking up and even if its just a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I would unironically prefer a gf that likes to do things like sewing, knitting, reading, hiking, or other “boring” things, rather than getting drunk and dancing half naked with her friends while guys hit on her and her friends all night and she and her friends gossip about how hot guys are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menWho did I say Im better than? No doubt I have socialization problems, I wont argue that. But I also think most young women are 100% illogical and hypocritical. They’ll date assholes just because they’re hot, voluntarily letting their partner treat them like trash only to , years later complain about their toxic ex that must have emotionally traumatized them. While at the same time, many girls will claim to want a nice, attentive boyfriend, but you need to be careful about giving that energy towa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menThis isnt about “people” this thread is specifically about women changing their preferences from aggressive, toxic assholes to softer, ‘nice’ guys as they get older in their mid 20s and 30s. If you wanna make a case for a male example of this scenario you’re free to, but dont generalize this phenomenon as a gender neutral situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 01:11 AM |
| 5 | Women prefer toxic menThe mind can conveniently twist past memories to create a comforting narrative. Most likely at the time when you were 22, you did seek out guys who displayed some degree of toxic traits and probably found a safer guy boring. But now like you said, you had a disastrous dating record so now you need a nice guy to love you. Therefore it’s more comforting framing it from a psychoanalytical standpoint that you couldnt see the red flags at the time even though you likely could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 01:09 AM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menI didnt say that. I want a girl to value those things too, but she should find me physically attractive as well. I had a girl say she liked me but didnt find me “objectively good looking” and for me that just isnt good enough even though the rest of the relationship was good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 01:00 AM |
| 6 | Women prefer toxic menYou are the classic of a woman who in her 20s primarily dates assholes then later in life comes up with some excuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Women prefer toxic menYeah, and the older women get the more the more they sacrifice a bit of the toxic masculine part in favour of a less imposing but more stable guy. Its quiet convenient for women isnt it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:53 AM |
| 7 | Women prefer toxic menYes, I have specifically had a ex girlfriend tell me it was hot that I got loud and aggressive when im drunk (im usually pretty chill/mellow) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:39 AM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menWell listen, if she needs therapy to decide she’s interested in dating me I dont want her lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menI don’t understand. I’m not saying I was dumped for being too nice. I said I wouldnt date a girl who had dated a bunch of assholes or toxic ex’s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:44 PM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menI guess the logic is this: I was never really any asshole to women, and in fact thought I was doing the right thing by doing so. So the fact that she not only didnt appreciate it back then but was even attracted to it, and now later in life when she wants stability wants a nice guy to settle down with, Im not gonna be the one she ends up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menInstead of it being the case that I was always toxic and doing a “nice guy act”, have you considered that I used to be nice and naive, saw how other approaches worked better, and adapted? Do you expect nice guys to stay nice forever at the sacrifice of female attention? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:20 PM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menSorry I should elaborate: women are more attracted to toxic men. They sacrifice some of the attraction for emotional support when they want to settle down/get married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:18 PM |
| 7 | Women prefer toxic menIf her boyfriends were only assholes then yeah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menMaybe but wouldnt be me lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:13 PM |
| 5 | Women prefer toxic menHe was her first choice meaning she presumably found him the most attractive, also she likely slept with him so all her future boyfriends need to live with that knowledge now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:10 PM |
| 4 | Women prefer toxic menThat would be nice but unrealistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:09 PM |
| 10 | Women prefer toxic menIt’s not that they’re good at playing nice, it’s that they’re balance their toxic traits with other traits girls find attractive (confidence, aggression, charisma, excitement, apathy, dominance) etc so the girl will turn a blind eye to the red flags in the beginning. But they are usually not so difficult to see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Dancing around loud abrasive drunk guys in a revealing outfit while getting hit on and approached by a few guys, then coming home horny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 11:00 PM |
| 6 | Women prefer toxic menTrue, but a lot of times guys who will deliberately lead girls on and talk to multiple girls at the same time while pretending to only talk to 1 will get labeled as f boys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:53 PM |
| 6 | Women prefer toxic menUsually I have to pay for a woman 2 decades older to infantilize me 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:49 PM |
| 6 | Women prefer toxic menAnd what women don’t seem to grasp, is the growth you’re talking about - being attracted to toxic bad boys, getting your heart broken in your teens/20s then settling down with a nice guy, isn’t something most of us had to learn. A lot of us are shocked to see otherwise seemingly logical women become completely ruled by illogical emotions and ignoring blatant red flags, only to be confused why they got cheated on/dumped/not taken seriously. Not a lot of guys need to “mature” in that sense, that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:41 PM |
| 10 | Women prefer toxic menI know women love trying to emasculate men but I take that as a compliment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer toxic menAre we not counting fuckboys under the umbrella of toxic here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:28 PM |
| 8 | Women prefer toxic menIm glad you think im cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:26 PM |
| 5 | Women prefer toxic menThey date hot assholes and get cheated on lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Women prefer toxic menIf shes suddenly interested in me after dating a bunch of assholes, then no I wouldnt take her seriously at all. Maybe Id make her fall in love with me then have sex with her or something, but I would never consider her relationship material. If I wouldnt be your first pick then you dont get me when you exhausted your other options 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:25 PM |
| 9 | Women prefer toxic menDisproportionately women dating shitty but attractive men* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:23 PM |
| 10 | Women prefer toxic menIts definitely not worth taking women or dating seriously based on the discussion from this subreddit. Im glad I already decided not to get married lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:22 PM |
| 12 | Women prefer toxic menIf you’re actively trying to ignore red flags because you’re attracted to him and want to make it work, then you do know hes toxic even subconsciously. I also call bullshit on the “good actors” thing. From a male pov it’s very easy to tell if a guy gives off a douchey vibe and likely just fucks a bunch of girls. But women purposely ignore these red flags when the guy is giving the attention to them, because of the attraction/excitement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Women prefer toxic menEven if it’s just younger women, if my gf was into badboys/assholes when she was younger then wants to settle down with me when shes older and its suddenly appealing, I wouldnt be interested in that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:17 PM |
| 12 | Women prefer toxic menIf theyre young and impressionable, why are they more impressioned by toxic badboys than shy, sensitive nice guys? Its simply because the former is more attractive. But over time the emotional damage starts to outweigh the excitement/attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:16 PM |
| 15 | Women prefer toxic menI’m not saying I’m “better” than anybody. But I didnt prefer hot/bitchy girls only to suddenly want a nice girl afterwards, whereas I see a lot of girls get voluntarily used by assholes only to want a nice guy after to treat them better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:13 PM |
| 8 | Women prefer toxic menWhen I had no experience with women I had a much more naive outlook on relationships and what women want. I recognize patterns I noticed in my personal experience. Theres nothing wrong with trying to ask questions and raise uncomfortable discussions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:11 PM |
| 7 | Women prefer toxic menSpeak for yourself lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 10:05 PM |
| 11 | Women prefer toxic menRight, but you still chose him first lol. From a male standpoint he “won” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:58 PM |
| 15 | Women prefer toxic menIm 22 so is it really that weird to expect maturity from women my age? I thought you guys matured faster.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:58 PM |
| 12 | Women prefer toxic menYeah, but theres a reason why they were her first pick too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If you were my gf/wife and I found that you liked attention from other guys I would either dump you or cheat on you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:46 PM |
| 10 | Women prefer toxic menHow so? My original post was that women are more attracted to toxic men. All Im simply saying is that eventually the pain of being abused/manipulated/stringed along for so long eventually outweighs the attraction/excitement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?You just said you like the attention from other men… so meaning my post is true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:43 PM |
| 10 | Women prefer toxic menYeah but specifically things like patronizing women, being degrading, negging, ignoring, leaving on read… these things generally work a lot if the girl has an interest in you and shes younger (~18-23) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I think you shouldnt watch porn in a relationship (or at all) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:34 PM |
| 21 | Women prefer toxic menNo, its just that usually the toxic guys know they have options and arent invested in the girl, and eventually after enough time the girl gets tired of being used & abused realizing its not sustainable. but if a woman’s first instinct is to date the asshole, thats who shes most attracted to regardless of who she ends up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Ok, you should really open with the fact that you’re in an open relationship from the start. Your and I’s views on relationships and their purposes are completely different and we’re gonna have to agree to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?In that case, why be in a monogamous relationship at all? If you aren’t jealous of the idea of your partner being attracted to other people, why not take it a step further and let them have fun with other people too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If any woman comes up to me in a bar Im gonna assume shes either interested in me or interested in the possibility of something depending on our conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Completely different. Men might be friendly in church but in a club they’ll outright be trying to fuck her if shes hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?How did you and your husband meet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Nobody is forever sexually attracted to their partner because people age, libidos lower and a lot of people stop putting in effort after a certain point. If you mean to say that you stop being attracted to your partner while still being attracted to other men, however, then I once again urge you to reevaluate your relationship because that just sounds like you chose a partner you’re not that sexually compatible with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Standing there amicably and having a conversation with a drunk guy whos clearly trying to hit on you in itself isnt enough. I feel like if you love your partner you should actively and immediately shut down any men that try to talk to you, buy you a drink, make a joke, etc.. its called respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Nah, that sounds like some shit women tell their BF to make him feel better about the fact that some drunk better looking dudes made her wet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 07:57 PM |
| 0 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?My point is I consider drunken flirting/enjoying attention from men somewhat as cheating in itself but it seems like most women don’t view it that way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?You pity the woman I end up with because I don’t want her being attention thirsty and fantasizing about other men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 06:43 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If seriously hope not every woman has your mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If good looking drunk guys (or any guys) giving you attention makes you horny, even indirectly, and you are in a committed relationship I would reevaluate your loyalty to your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 06:18 PM |
| 4 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?But a lot of guys, myself included, have seen women do this kind of thing. Thats why it gets brought up a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If you’re in a monogamous relationship, I believe you should only want attention from your spouse. Is that difficult to agree on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Thats fine if it works for your relationship and causes no jealousy problems. For me im extremely possessive so I wouldnt be fine with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:36 PM |
| 5 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?The vast majority of dudes definitely dont go out with their buds to ogle or feel up women, or swap nudes lmao. Swapping nudes is a teenage boy thing, and I dont know where would guys be going to grope women? At a strip club or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:13 PM |
| 5 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?What bro time involves touching women?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:11 PM |
| 4 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If shes not getting attention from her man at home it’s her job to vocalize that and solve the issue as a couple. Going out to feel sexy from other guys is a form of emotional cheating imo. Either communicate with your partner or end the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Not all guys do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:47 PM |
| 7 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I mean if she comes home wanting to have sex immediately after hanging out with a male friend that would be a huge red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Does this change if youre drunk and the guy is extremely attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?ah yes, the blame somehow has to fall back on the man. It couldnt be that theyre equally 50% responsible for the failing relationship/dead bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Then theres no point in being in a relationship at all to me. Might as well fuck/cheat as much as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:11 PM |
| -3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Its clearly not facts though if other women are saying they dont do this, its your subjective opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:06 PM |
| 5 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?See, if Im dating a girl and she comes home horny, but shes horny because of spending time with other guys. I dont consider that a win just because I get to have sex with her. I actually consider that a violation of loyalty . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:05 PM |
| -1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?you did though, you implied that women do this because they “need sexy attention “ and 1 man cant provide enough for them. That sounds like a bullshit justification to get attention from other guys to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:01 PM |
| 6 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Glad we agree on that at least, now can we agree you dont need guys to look at your boobs if you have a bf/husband too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:01 PM |
| 7 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?If you need attention from other guys you arent loyal to your partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?That’s not why. The fear is because I consider it soft cheating, and it seems to be quite common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:56 PM |
| -3 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Im not asking for a justification on it. Im just asking if it happens and how common it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:54 PM |
| 6 | Even in sexting height matters to womenExcept I dont ask them explicitly whether theyre fat, whereas they ask me how tall I am almost immediately before it turns sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsNo, I said I want a relationship but if I find out she had casual sex with a bunch of other dudes, shes gonna turn into a pump and dump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsBased on most women in this thread, they’ll sleep with a guy they don’t care about and make the guys they actually like wait weeks for sex, so it doesn’t seem to really matter about what woman I end up with anyways. It seems much more time efficient to try and sleep with them right away, and then potentially build a relationship from there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 12:41 AM |
| 4 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWhat I mean is that, the women I want to hook up with and the women I want a relationship with are generally speaking the same type of woman. I find it kind of psychopathic to compartmentalize guys as either relationship or one night stand material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsDo you go for the hottest girl possible? I don’t, and never have as long as she met my minimum degree of attraction. Im just coming to realize personality matters a lot more to me to than it matters for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsI think it goes beyond that. Finding out you aren’t in the top 10% best looking males isn’t that big of a deal. But finding out for example that the girl you’re in a relationship with would’ve chosen other guys before you, even just for a ONS is a difficult pill to swallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:01 PM |
| 0 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsIll paste what I wrote in another comment: I totally get the logic from a woman’s point of view, you dont want to rush into sex with a guy you actually like because you dont want him to run off after right away and get your feelings hurt. From a guy’s pov though, the guys you’re just having fun with are winning in this situation. They’re getting to have sex/make out with a woman I actually like in less than 24 hours, and they didn’t even have to put in very much effort. Even as a guy who doesnt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 01:42 PM |
| 0 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWhat does it mean then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsSo if Im understanding right you’re basically pointing out how women compartmentalize the men they’re into and treat them differently based on their perception right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 12:05 PM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsI know this. It’s just unfortunate for the hopeless romantics who still believed in love.. oh well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 11:43 AM |
| 0 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsAny advice on finding a prude gf? The religious girls I met all ended up having the wildest fetishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsNo. Im gonna have sex with them first, then leave them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:57 AM |
| 4 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWho says I ask about it? Usually it’s the girl that brings it up first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:27 AM |
| 2 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsNo, Im going to try to trick them into liking me, sleep with them then ditch them afterwards. Id rather be the guy she regrets having a ONS/FWB with than the guy ending up dating a woman that got ran through in her early 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsI’m not saying she should be a slut for me. If I’m interested in a girl I don’t mind spending time together and waiting several dates before it gets intimate. But if I’m in a relationship with a girl and I later found out she had sex with a bunch of girls who she didn’t “make wait” (terrible term btw) it would make me less into her & question the relationship . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsRight, but the thing is when guys want a LTR they want to feel like they have someone special, not just a girl any guy could get with. Having a bunch of one night stands shows that she was easy to have sex with if you were in the right time and place + attractive enough, and makes being in a relationship less enticing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:58 AM |
| 2 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWhat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:11 AM |
| 7 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWhat a lot of women don’t realize is not only is sex a reward for guys, but when you really like a girl the idea of other guys having sex with her is actually like a desecration of something you love. Thinking of another guy dicking down the woman you love is like a muslim watching someone piss on a mosque. So even if i personally dont mind waiting a long time for sex, if I later found out in the relationship she made me wait for it but let another guy sleep with her in 1 night, it would make me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationships5’10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:52 AM |
| 4 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsMaybe if you’re 30+, i feel like gen Z girls dont really give a fuck about money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:49 AM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsIm 150 lbs bro I need more fat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:48 AM |
| 2 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsIm eating hot cheetos rn btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:41 AM |
| 5 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsYou’re dodging the point completely. It’s not about hot vs funny, those are just 2 examples of traits. Its about the principle of I don’t want to wait for something that another guy gets upfront. That tells me that she’s either less interested in me than the guy she hooked up with right away, or that she values sex differently than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsI didnt say that, and you dodged my question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsWhen you get a nice car you don’t want a lot of mileage on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:22 AM |
| 5 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsHow do you know Im not? Maybe Im the funniest guy shes met in her life but just not conventionally hot. If she thinks I’m good enough for a relationship but not hot enough to hookup with I would personally consider that insulting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:20 AM |
| 4 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipslike I said it’s not even about the sex, it’s about the principle of rewarding a guy earlier/more than me. If a girl usually puts out with other guys on the 2nd date then I would expect to have the same thing with her, otherwise I would assume she isn’t attracted to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:15 AM |
| 6 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsSorry I should clarify, I dont think status is why guys want to date hot women, the primary reason is to have sex with them. I just think theres more of a status symbol to having a “trophy wife” whereas guys in relationships often don’t need to be that good looking to have an attractive partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:08 AM |
| 9 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationships“Why am I taking a girl on 5 dates over the period of a month to get laid when she fucked that hot guy in 1 night?” I think is the general mentality. Honestly it’s not even about the sex, it’s about the idea of another guy getting preferential treatment, usually for simply being better looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:06 AM |
| 8 | Women have different standards for hookups vs relationshipsOk but a lot of guys do care about this kind of thing if they are serious about a future with the girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Next time a woman complains amount something men systematically do im gonna say shes lying as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Thats exactly my point… if a woman says you’re too short for her you’re expected to laugh it off and take the rejection gracefully but imagine telling a woman shes too heavy for you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?it depends. for example going for 300 lb to 200 lb would be far more significant than going from 5’5 to 5’7. but going from 5’7 to 6’0 would be way more significant than going from 225 lbs to 200 lbs. theres no one size fits all answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Theres no tangible risk to getting in shape. If you don’t want to go outside and risk getting hit by a car you can exercise in your apartment and never leave the house. If we’re gonna apply the logic of every single action having a risk, even just sitting down and using Reddit is a risk. So might as well risk exercising and getting healthy. Meanwhile, you are casually recommending getting a $75,000 USD surgery that’s been known to have possible long term complications as if that’s even remotely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?If you’re that out of shape a treadmill will give you a heart attack you need to see a dr asap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 03:02 PM |
| 1 | “Those guys in the past don’t matter anymore, she’s choosing you now”Im talking about overall perceived value. for example right now its really trendy to have tattoos, so a guy with a tattoo sleeve is gonna look more attractive, put together and valuable in comparison to the exact same guy without one. theres all sorts of things that can dramatically change your perceived value depending on the current social climate. For example, right now a guy with black painted finger nails is hot to a lot of 18 year old woman. even 10 years ago that wasnt the case, but nowad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | “Those guys in the past don’t matter anymore, she’s choosing you now”Im not just talking about money when im talking about success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | “Those guys in the past don’t matter anymore, she’s choosing you now”I dont have evidence other than personal anecdotes. Other guys are welcome to chime in if they agree or disagree tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:49 PM |
| 1 | “Those guys in the past don’t matter anymore, she’s choosing you now”Can i edit it and make it neutral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:48 PM |
| 1 | “Those guys in the past don’t matter anymore, she’s choosing you now”More like, if you didn’t like me back then you don’t get me now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?because the methods in which they are being improved on are drastically different. one amounts to eating healthier and moving more, the other involves risking your ability to move your legs ever again. its a false equivalency, it would be more like getting a nose job or something rather than weight loss, unless we are talking about major weight loss surgery for people around 400 lbs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I would say weight has very little to do with the quality of a man… plenty of successful men who have been scrawny, chubby, fat, brawny, toned, and everywhere in between. As far as height goes, no answer is as black and white as being an automatic death sentence. Still, there’s no denying that below a certain threshold, you will have a significantly harder chance of finding a woman. For example, a 5’6” guy is gonna be by default ignored by ~90% of the female population on that one physical trait… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?No doubt difficult, but comparing healthy diet and exercise which is something everyone should do anyways to getting an invasive surgery that can possibly paralyze you seems very intellectually dishonest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?“Since the BMR in a person with hypothyroidism is decreased, an underactive thyroid is generally associated with some weight gain. The weight gain is often greater in those individuals with more severe hypothyroidism. However, the decrease in BMR due to hypothyroidism is usually much less dramatic than the marked increase seen in hyperthyroidism, leading to smaller alterations in weight due to an under-active thyroid. The cause of the weight gain in a hypothyroid person is also complex, and not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?You’re right that it’s not my job to judge which is more or less hurtful. My point was, in my opinion it’s much more insulting to be made fun of for something beyond your control. For example race, height, facial features, sex, these are just a few things beyond your control and not something anybody should feel humiliated for. Does that mean it’s less hurtful to make fun of someone’s weight? No not necessarily, and it’s equally as wrong to do so. But weight is significantly more about your life… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Hmm… dont know if thats the same thing. for one losing weight is a natural biological process while surgery is an artificial human concept | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?You can make simple lifestyle changed and lose weight over time. for example cutting soda out of your diet over a few months can result in 10-20 lb loss for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?it was a joke bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 12:20 AM |
| 3 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?You’re right. Men should stop caring about our feelings and stop holding women accountable for their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Exactly, so at least the girl can do something about her problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I think most 18 year olds know they have a large pool of guys willing to tell them they’re beautiful, whether it’s guys looking for a relationship or just complimenting to get sex, so i think girls are more blunt nowadays. Social media is a very narcissistic feedback loop | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?theres a 15 year age gap between you and young gen z women. theres a huge cultural gap propagated partly by social media | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Explicitly stating why is the rude part.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?But your point about why its normalized makes no sense. Its not common for people to say “sorry I dont date black guys” for example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?You realize its way more hurtful for to be rejected for something you cant change than something you can right? For example, im a skinny guy. If a woman rejected me for being too skinny, at least I can go to the gym and work out to get bigger; similarly men and women can lose weight. Guys cant grow any taller and women cant shrink any shorter. Your point works against you more than it helps you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?So I guess it comes down to what do you value more, the harsh truth or your feelings. Would you recommend this approach, or should someone just not give a reason or make up a nicer one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:45 PM |
| 3 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?“Sorry, you seem like a really nice guy but you’re a little too short for me” isn’t intended as an insult, although its certainly insulting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Don’t a lot of skinny, beautiful women still struggle with weight issues, self esteem problems, EDs etc? Thats what ive heard anyways. Either way, I could similarly say that I dont feel short either at 5’10, but if a girl explicitly told me thats the reason she didnt want to date me it would still make me question like “damn” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:22 PM |
| 9 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I think, generally, people assume men, in particular young men, are more toxic than women. I think that narrative needs to be challenged, because there are a lot of toxic women out there especially in gen Z. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Ok, clearly it goes both ways. I shouldnt assume its primarily women doing this to men, as you said some guys are insensitive and ignorant too. I just hope we can all agree that its rude behaviour | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:04 PM |
| 11 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?You asked where I got my examples from. Im telling you from personal experience. How is that not significant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 12:03 PM |
| 13 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Personal experience, anecdotes of dudes shorter than myself, screenshots, memes, talking to women, youtube videos etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:41 AM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I think she had a cluster b personality disorder too tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:24 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?What can I say, Im an empath. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Ive had girls being insistent on me in the past after making it clear i wasnt interested in dating. One girl even explicitly asked me if it was because she was too fat for me, and i awkwardly had to sit there not knowing what to say. Do you think it wouldve been appropriate for me to say yes you are fat, to “ruin her self esteem” so to speak? Be honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?The problem is it’s not just rude bitchy women that do this, a lot of seemingly nice woman do this as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Thank you and btw I would never attack a girl for her weight or really any appearance feature like that, Im just saying it’s extremely common for dudes especially to get directly told they’re not short enough and almost expected to feel grateful about it. A lot of girls will say something along the lines of “aww, you seem like a nice guy but you’re too short for me, sorry.” not realizing how this is basically just lowering someone’s confidence about something they can do absolutely nothing about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:28 AM |
| 5 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?It doesnt matter if you think you’re fat or not, a lot of 5’9-5’11 guys don’t feel like they’re short but still get rejected for their height plenty of times. Is a girl being “nice” by being honest with a short dude about the reason he’s getting rejected? I disagree. I think based on the comments on this post it’s clear at least about half of women would think a guy’s an asshole or feel weird if a guy mentioned their weight specifically. Is a guy being nice in that scenario by telling a girl tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:23 AM |
| 4 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?i agree with you it would be rude. So can we agree when girls reject guys and tell him to his face it’s because of his height, that’s equally as rude? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:11 AM |
| 4 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Maybe because you’re not a guy and more importantly not a short guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:05 AM |
| 5 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Im not just talking about women on Tinder. It happens irl, over text and on dating apps, just depends on the girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:04 AM |
| 15 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Girls tell a guy “sorry, you’re nice but too short “ all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Ty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Let me give you another common example. A guys texting with a girl for hours on tinder or something, she suddenly asks how tall he is, he says 5’8 or something like that and she ghosts/unmatches him. Again, you’re free to have your standards but its about the way you go about it that can be very rude. Especially if a guy did the same thing with a girl’s weight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 04:48 AM |
| 5 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Its a lot easier for women to get confidence boost from other guys like that because a lot of guys will compliment women just to try and have sex with them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 04:34 AM |
| 5 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Ah yes, because every guy shoots up a school anytime he gets rejected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Im saying not every physical appearance issue can even be worked on, a lot of it is genetic. The weight example was just trying to get women to empathize with how men are often rejected and explicitly told what feature it is about them that specifically makes them not good enough (eg. height) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:56 AM |
| -1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Im talking gen Z women mainly (18-23 ish) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?if only that could solve everything… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:51 AM |
| 9 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?It absolutely is true in real life, a lot of guys can attest to this lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:46 AM |
| 6 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I think women on reddit are generally more conscientious than the general population, same as guys, that a lot of women on reddit underestimate how fucking rude some women irl can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:37 AM |
| -5 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Extremely common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:26 AM |
| -4 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?My point is it’s very common for women to say to guys “sorry, you seem nice but you’re a bit too short” but if a guy told a girl “sorry, you’re a nice girl but you’re a bit too fat for me” i think most women would either go home and cry or have a sort of “wtf asshole??” reaction. Any women feel free to dispute me on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:24 AM |
| 12 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?I appreciate u | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Ok but did he mention your weight? Thats a huge difference vs just saying you see someone only as friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Women: If you asked out a guy and he was nice but said “sorry, you’re just a little too fat for me” how would you respond?Has either scenario happened to you before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:18 AM |
| 5 | Body shaming menWhy do you assume I’m judging anyone? Also, you can not want to date somebody and still have respect for someone… no need to be silently judgemental for something. If I see a woman Im unattracted to im not silently judging her in my head. I know a lot of guys do this yes, which is why I think it’s important to recognize that both sexes are equally capable of shallow, toxic and judgemental behaviour. Like you said historically it was men who did the vast majority of pushing beauty standards. Howe… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 08:13 PM |
| 6 | Body shaming menIm sorry for your struggles with toxic men in the past. as I said nobody should be made to feel bad for their body let alone to the extent they get a surgery. That being said, I wasnt alive back then so I cant comment what society was like 20 or 30 years ago. Im 22 years old. I can only speak on the girls I interact with which are Gen Z, and its a very different landscape today. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 07:29 PM |
| 7 | Body shaming menYou still don’t get it. It’s not about preferences at all. I’m not asking women to go date 5’7 guys, or guys with thinning hairlines, or guys with dadbods, or guys with small penises. It’s about the hypocrisy of how many women will complain about feeling pressured by societal beauty standards and will defend and uplift each other, however they often don’t extend the same courtesy to men. There’s a cognitive dissonance there, almost as if guys arent capable of feeling bad about their appearance. … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 07:07 PM |
| 8 | Body shaming menIve been ridiculed for my height, have overheard girls making fun of guys for being short and seen a million memes where they guys’ height was the butt of the joke. For example see the TikTok trend: “gaslighting my bf to think he’s short” where girls would text their bfs “do you ever wish you were tall?” and imagine if guys started texting their gfs “do you wish you were skinny” as a trend. If you think guys dont get mocked, not rejected —- Mocked, ridiculed, laughed at, humiliated, etc. for the… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 07:00 PM |
| 11 | Body shaming menAlso you never heard a guy get ridiculed for being short? Lmao… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 06:35 PM |
| 3 | Body shaming menThis post isn’t about you specifically. Believe it or not, I don’t even know who you are. This post is about encouraging men to build each other up, while also challenging silly arbitrary standards of what masculinity should look like, and how men should be treated. I’m not saying don’t focus on looks. That’s against human nature. I’m saying if you are a good human being , you will have the self awareness to recognize what is your selfish perception of how others should be treated vs. how they a… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 06:20 PM |
| 11 | Body shaming menI’ve never shamed a woman for her appearance. Stop looking at the worst behaviours of the most toxic men and assuming all men follow the same bad behaviours. Anyone is free to date whoever they want. If you only want a 6’3 Adonis with an 8 inch cock and 6 figure salary by all means. Just dont treat men badly or less masculine for not reaching your standards. What you’re doing is employing a ‘whataboutism’ logical fallacy. I never said women should be shamed for their appearance, in fact Im again… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Body shaming menI cry like a baby now in my room haha. Still dont know if I could comfortably cry in front of anybody though. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 03:34 PM |
| 4 | Body shaming menI dont know why you’re getting downvoted for voicing opinions, this is a very reasonable discussion. I dont wanna generalize either and say x group has a better support system, because its on a case by case basis, there are guys with fantastic support systems and women with little, etc. My point is traditionally I think women at least usually had their ‘shoulder to cry on’ whether it was their mom, best friend, partner etc. whereas guys had literally nobody (although I think thats changing in th… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 03:22 PM |
| 5 | Body shaming menI think a chubby guy would actually get much much more rude comments about weight today, because people don’t really feel bad about making fun of guys weight. Its kinda expected to “own it” as a guy and become the fat funny dude so to speak. Whereas its a delicate subject for women that I think most men wouldnt call a girl fat especially in person. I understand it goes both ways. My point is neither way should happen. I could be wrong but you seem defensive about me sticking up for guys. If a la… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 01:00 PM |
| 7 | Body shaming menWhen I say beauty standards I’m more so talking about treating people differently based on not meeting those standards. I couldnt care less if a girl only wants to date 6’3 guys as long as in social settings shes treating all guys the same regardless of their appearance. Regarding your 2nd point I will mention there are subreddits with 100,000s of subscribers for women with big labia. You will not find a similar thing for micropenises for example. I also dont think guys are judging women for dre… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 12:18 PM |
| 7 | Body shaming menNot saying they dont care but I think generally speaking most women will tolerate a little dad bod because they can relate in a sort of a sense of dealing with weight issues. However if youre a 5’7 guy automatically a large swath of the population wants nothing to do with you. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 11:54 AM |
| 12 | Body shaming menMen laugh about it with other men, but that doesnt stop women from judging us with harsh beauty standards. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 11:42 AM |
| 21 | Body shaming menYeah true, that’s generally how guys operate. Our first instinct usually isn’t to heal ourselves but to fight back at the perceived threat with our own attack. However this isnt really productive for anyone…. I dont want girls to feel bad for being overweight, im just saying guys also shouldnt feel bad or ‘less of a man’ for not reaching some arbitrary bone length measurement. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 11:26 AM |
| 53 | Body shaming menOne more point I forgot to add: when a woman gets body shamed she can post about it on social media and garner a lot of sympathy. Whereas men often have to laugh it off and take it on the chin to avoid looking weak and being ostracized both from potential dating partners and our male friends. To me this is a huge double standard | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 08:45 AM |
| 1 | There’s no winning if you want to date a non-promiscuous womanWhat did I do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:12 PM |
| 2 | There’s no winning if you want to date a non-promiscuous womanObviously ‘promiscuous’ is vague, but I don’t think a body count of 5 is particularly “low” for a woman in her early 20s. I would think that’s an average number, probably because sex to me is extremely intimate and I’ve only been with 1 girl myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | There’s no winning if you want to date a non-promiscuous womanNo it’s not a topic you can debate, because it’s not an argument it’s a commentary. Feel free to add on to it, disagree with me, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:59 PM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I know but I hear a lot of women in relationships fantasizing about these types of scenarios | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?When i say nerd Im not talking about someone smart that wears glasses and likes niche hobbies, im talking specifically about a guy who’s socially awkward, sexually inexperienced, physically intimidating, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I think if this happens often you’re with the wrong person but that’s my 2 cents from a single guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 04:21 PM |
| 3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?If a woman is fantasizing about getting gang banged or something and shes dating some middle class suburban guy shes not fantasizing about him in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 04:15 PM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Im not asking if the woman is unsatisfied, I’m asking if she fantasizes about other guys. My theory is that a lot of women settle down with guys who are less than their “ideal” standard of attractiveness, because the guy usually compensates by being extra caring, sensitive, attentive, loving etc. However I feel like there’s still an itch in the woman of this scenario to be with a more aggressive/dominant man that tends to play itself out in the woman’s fantasies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 03:15 PM |
| 5 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Exactly what I mean. Theres a difference between looking at someone, thinking they’re attractive and then moving on with your day, vs creating sexual fantasies, having long term crushes on specific celebrities, talking to your partner about how hot x is etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:55 PM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Completely different, youre in a poly relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:42 AM |
| 1 | “It doesn’t matter”You just completely ignored the point of the post. It’s not about the specific number its about the communication and psychology. You could use an average dick like 5-6 inches and most women would be fine with it but that doesnt mean they wouldnt prefer it to be bigger, it just means its not small enough to be a dealbreaker for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:41 AM |
| 3 | “It doesn’t matter”Im not trying to take care of a woman. Im looking for a soul mate not an exchange of money for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:27 AM |
| 3 | “It doesn’t matter”I think in the early stages of the relationship you shouldn’t be expecting the other person to pay for your stuff but yeah I see your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:24 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Of course, but if Im in a committed relationship I won’t out of respect for the other person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:43 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I dont watch porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?She can fantasize about scenarios/situations and we can explore them together. If shes fantasizing about other guys I dont want her even if she’s physically loyal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:38 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?You didnt answer my question, im asking how conmon is it for women in relationships to do this. You say it has nothing to do with being unsatisfied but I don’t think that’s entirely honest. I think a lot of times people end up with someone who satisfies their needs 80-90%, and that last 10% can be addressed in several ways including having fantasies. Regardless if this is “all the time” or not, I consider it mentally cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:35 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Ok, you don’t see the big deal thats fine. Everyone has different boundaries and expectations. But to me it’s a very big deal and a dealbreaker in a relationship. So I would like to know how common it is, regardless of whether or not it’s considered a big deal or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:29 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?It has absolutely nothing to do with getting left. That’s a huge misconception that I don’t know why women believe. I don’t want my girl fantasizing about other guys not because I’m worried about her leaving me for someone more attractive than me, but the very notion at all that she’s thinking about other men for sexual gratification ruins the relationship in itself. It’s not about panicking that some hot guy is gonna come steal her. It’s the fact that if shes with me, she should only want me ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:24 AM |
| 3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?That’s exactly my point, I dont watch porn and if Im with a girl Im making a conscious effort not to look at other girls, so I expect the same effort from my woman in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:20 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Sexual thoughts about other people is already cheating (mental cheating). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:18 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?If my partner masturbates about other guys she’s from the streets and I don’t want her. Hearing this kind of behaviour justified as normal and/or common is pretty disgusting and a huge example of cognitive dissonance imo, because men are constantly scolded by their women for looking at other girls on social media, staring at other girls asses/tits, watching porn, etc. Women don’t want to admit that they do the same things. Regardless it’s all the more reason to not treat ‘marriage’ or ‘love seri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:17 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?You’re right that being in a relationship doesn’t make you blind however, there’s also an expectation that once you’re in a relationship you’re not gonna feel the need to look at other people than your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:11 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Instead of the emotional response why not address the 2 points he wrote which I also agree with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:09 AM |
| 5 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I wouldn’t automatically assume you’re lying, in fact thats partly why I posted, to see if there was any women who didn’t do this and could give me hope that there are still loyal women out there. That being said if you look at some of the replies you can see I do have a point with this hypothesis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:05 AM |
| 4 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?What if I told you Im loyal to my girl and don’t feel the need to look at hotter ones? I know the tendency would be to think im lying or not being honest but im being truthful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:02 AM |
| 11 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?You’re right, which is why im asking on an anonymous platform where married people will hopefully be more honest than anyone would irl. Im asking you. do you fantasize about other people than your partner? Of course they can’t see into your thoughts, but you can surely see your own? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 03:59 AM |
| 7 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Are you not aware of the own thoughts that enter your mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 03:53 AM |
| 3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Its pretty dehumanizing to compare people to jobs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 03:27 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Ultimately it’s how she acts, but usually when girls are comfortable around you they’re pretty open about what they’re thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:58 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?With all due respect your partner was a virgin before meeting you based on your recent post so he wouldnt have the courage to stand up to you and say it makes him uncomfortable. Either that or he simply would think it’s normal behaviour because its his first serious relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:57 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Im saying if my partner gives me any indication that any men are more attractive to me I’m going to lose interest in her and either cheat on her, or have sex with her a few times then dump her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:53 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Fantasizing about having sex with a celebrity is absolutely not fine in a relationship . Especially in the age of tiktok where someone can go from a nobody to famous in the span of a year. As far as fictional characters, I dont think women really fantasize about the characters themselves but rather the scenarios that the characters are involved in but i could be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:51 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Yes im against both of those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:48 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Ok then Im guessing you’re quite more attractive than your partner and have no worry of him leaving you. Most women would not feel comfortable with their partner calling other women hot especially if he’s a good looking guy . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:29 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Thats not the point. Im not delusional enough to expect the best looking man my partner has seen. My point is if Im in a relationship I expect my partner to devote their full sexual energy to me, meaning no fantasies about other people, no comments about how hot other guys are, no smiling a little extra hard at the cute waiter, etc. I think a lot of women end up with insecure guys who never got a lot of experience with women, and take advantage of this by using the guy for the benefits of the re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:27 AM |
| 4 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?My past relationships were with girls who were relatively average looking, however because of my feelings for them I never felt the need to look at or think about other women anymore. Are you saying this same effect doesn’t exist when women get in relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:20 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Any girl that’s ok with her husband calling other women hot is because she knows that shes been with significantly more men than he has women. im guessing thats the case for your relationship as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:14 AM |
| 3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Be 100% honest: If Im dating a girl but I spend all day fantasizing about having sex with every girl I see, but just thoughts only. Is this not disloyal to my gf? I know damn well most girls wouldnt want to hear that, even call another girl hot in front of your gf and most women would get extremely upset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:04 AM |
| 9 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I think theres some truth to it, based on things I’ve read/heard and even look at some of the women replying in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 02:01 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?And what if I say its not fine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:51 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?No thats definitely not just what most guys want in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:38 AM |
| 3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I’m not trying to play the victim at all. The point of this post and these types of posts in general are to recognize patterns so that we (usually guys but can be women as well) can protect ourselves from being used. I don’t want to marry a woman only to find out 5 years in she thinks her coworkers way hotter than me even though she would never act on it, etc. It’s funny when I hear things like “I bet you’ve never talked to a woman” in response to these kinds of posts. Im writing this post partl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?How would anyone know ? Well it says you’re a wife, so I guess so you/have you fantasized about other guys in your relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:21 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?See, even you’re uncomfortable explicitly stating other women exist that are hotter than your wife, so you word it in a confusing way to avoid it. Meaning you recognize there’s something “wrong” about placing someone above your partner. Yet at the same time you acknowledge you aren’t the hottest man in your wife’s eyes and are seemingly ok with it, so why the double standard? Why are you uncomfortable admitting your wife isn’t the sexiest woman alive, while you willingly accept that you aren’t t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:19 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?But do you find any celebrity women hotter than your wife? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:12 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?It’s not about thinking someone is attractive (an involuntary response) it’s about indulging in sexual thoughts, fantasies, verbalizing to your partner how hot x celebrity is, etc. (all conscious/compulsive acts) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:10 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?You’re right, you should appreciate your wife more too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?The difference is you put those men on a pedestal, because they have celebrity status and abnormally good looks. I dont view any men on a different “tier” than me, even if theyre a lot richer, more successful, better looking etc. I still expect loyalty even against those guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?And you dont find that a betrayal of your partner’s trust? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:53 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Wait… your girl has celebrity crushes? The girl you’re in a relationship openly thirsts for the dick of hot celebrities? Im so sorry to hear that, would be an instant dealbreaker for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:52 AM |
| 0 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I dont think thats right either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:45 AM |
| 11 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I would argue part of treating your partner with respect is not thinking about fucking other people, even if you’re partner is unaware of your thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:42 AM |
| 12 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I know what a lot of people fantasize about from A: talking to people and B: reading the internet. i just wanted to possibly hear from other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:38 AM |
| 15 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Does every woman not wanna feel like the most beautiful woman alive to her husband? If so why is it wrong to want to feel like the most handsome guy alive to my wife? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:34 AM |
| 6 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Ok rephrase the question about boyfriend/girlfriends then instead of married couples? How common are fantasies about other guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:30 AM |
| -3 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Thats not really fantasy though thats usually just visual stimulation, im more talking about “let me fantasize about some hot guy doing some kinky shit to me my husband would never do” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Thank you for your reply. When you had a dry spell with your husband and weren’t attracted to him for that period of time, how did you satisfy your needs? Porn? Talking to strangers? Fantasies? Etc? Of course theres no black or white distinction between nerdy and masculine guys and most fall somewhere in between like you said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:26 AM |
| 4 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?I just don’t understand what you’re saying. Im asking how common is it for women to fantasize about better looking guys while in relationships. Are you saying its common or uncommon? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:14 AM |
| 6 | How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men?Can you reply again in english? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?Sounds like a huge bitch. Sorry to hear that dude, I know that has to hurt. Hope you’re feeling better these days and have been able to move on somewhat. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?Even with my limited amount of experiences they’ve all been bad to some degree. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?What were you quoting when you said I “saw some posts”? I only wrote that once in the OP | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?I have an open mind, thats why i made this post for a discussion. Your only contribution was “ur 22 and dumb lol” | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?No, you misquoted me when I said I “see a lot of posts” and took it in a different context | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 07:45 PM |
| 6 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?That’s very disingenuous of you. If you read with an open mind you will understand that I “see a lot of posts” demonizing men for their neglect/failures in their relationships while women are rarely generalized in such a way without criticism and usually post removal. Most of my experience with toxic girls comes from girls ive dated/talked to periodically as well as girls who emotionally wrecked and cheated on my friends. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 07:14 PM |
| 8 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?And? | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 06:14 PM |
| 8 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?Im not the only one noticing the huge amount of women being diagnosed with BPD rn? | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 02:09 PM |
| 18 | Why are men often assumed to be the perpetrators of failing/toxic relationships?In my opinion it’s for 2 reasons: 1. women are excited by a little bit of danger, this is very evident based on my dating experience. anything i said or did that conveyed the idea of the bad boy was ‘hot’. And 2. emotionally abusive men are more likely to be attractive than average or unattractive men, and are often given much more passes in the relationship even if the woman knows hes a jerk | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 12:38 PM |
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