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| 1 | Okay, maybe those guys who kept saying they avoid interacting with women in public have a point (a bit of a rant)Customer service bullshit is infuriating i agree. But i think it is just one of many social manipulations. I feel like conversations with dudes do not have as much social manipulation. It is all about money so dudes will likely not even judge on superficial things like the way females do. I guess that is what gets to me. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/10/19 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Okay, maybe those guys who kept saying they avoid interacting with women in public have a point (a bit of a rant)I don't want to sound corny or anything, but i keep a journal. It helps because i can let out my thoughts and feelings and i understand myself better, for instance about insecurities. My decision to avoid interacting with women is because they likely trigger some of these insecurities. If i were left to journaling, i might rationalize my decision. So, i appreciate that in a sub like this i can get feedback so i'm not only confirming a faulty way of living. Anyway, i hear you. I'll have to stay v… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/10/19 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Okay, maybe those guys who kept saying they avoid interacting with women in public have a point (a bit of a rant)First of all, thanks for your ideas on this issue. Your position definitely makes sense. I would like a future like that. I about to hit 30 in about a year and i think that stress-free lifestyle is something i want even more than marriage or a family. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/10/19 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Okay, maybe those guys who kept saying they avoid interacting with women in public have a point (a bit of a rant)Thanks for your feedback. Just to be clear, i'm talking about females i am not acquainted with. I have a few female friends and it's not weird. Anyway, i mention that i am insecure because i seem to feel judged. But that does not mean i care what they think. In fact, all i would want is the invisibility of a gray man (and we had a discussion about this sometime back). Maybe i could benefit from CBT. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/10/19 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Like is more important than LoveMichael Che | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/19 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Gay woman GTOW?Props to you for putting the work in your life and professional career and taking pride in it. I get that 'giver' expectation, but it's good you know your value and respect yourself enough to keep away from such women. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/19 05:17 PM |
| 1 | I'm interested to know. What do you guys make of this recent controversial HONY post about this PUA?I wonder what's the difference between PUA and the average 'Chad.' Like, they both give women the right emotional cues and feelings. But at the end of the day, the PUA will be publicly shamed because his 'game' is artificial or made up. What does it really matter anyway? | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/09/19 09:50 AM |
| 1 | I'm interested to know. What do you guys make of this recent controversial HONY post about this PUA?I do agree: "Both genders are equal amount of perpetrators and victim in this." I don't think PUA are inherently bad for manipulation. It's better than being an incel and hating women. I think they just take advantage of what women want, as you explain. That is also what women do with men. So, for me, even though i don't have the patience for it, i cannot fault the guy at all | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/09/19 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Apologies for the nonsensical serial killer post i madeTrue. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/09/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | I'm 16, and I'm going my own wayI feel you brother. High school and even college at times is pure madness. I went through the same experiences as you did except for me i was like a sidekick to the jock. Someone who was a really nice guy but who foolishly cared too much how i came off to girls. I've come to learn that is usually the problem. Do you and be your best self for you and don't mind the girls. I was in the friendzone with this one girl for the longest time and we would fool around. But in retrospect, i was being weird… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/19 07:16 AM |
| 1 | I HATE that often, when i'm chilling somewhere in public, i have to consciously alienate myself from womenYeah, i feel like that should keep being my policy moving forward. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/19 10:42 AM |
| 1 | I HATE that often, when i'm chilling somewhere in public, i have to consciously alienate myself from womenGood advice. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/19 10:41 AM |
| 1 | I HATE that often, when i'm chilling somewhere in public, i have to consciously alienate myself from womenI think i'm overthinking this too. Sometimes i feel like if i need to alienate myself from women, then i'm no better than blue-pilled men because i have given women too much power over my life. MGTOW should be easy. It's funny that you mentioned "warm body occupying the seat next to them" because that was literally the situation i was in that triggered these thoughts. The girl actually reached out to me about checking out for her seat and stuff and i said "okay". And then it was just silence fro… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/19 09:22 PM |
| 2 | I HATE that often, when i'm chilling somewhere in public, i have to consciously alienate myself from womenLol. Reminds me the other day i met a friend of mine and he was chatting with this chick i did not know. So, after catching up and basically going about my business, i realized like 30 minutes later that i only greeted the guy and did not even shake the chick's hand. lol. I think my mind just edits out women in public. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Is it ok to have a really close relationship with your mother, grandmother, sisters, female friends?IMO, it is okay to have a close relationship with any female who doesn't think you're just one of those men who just wants to fuck her or marry her. That kind of thinking is what messes up friendships in my opinion. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/19 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Should I lie about having a family at work?I was at a job interview some few days ago and was asked if i've married. I said no. Now reading this, i wonder if they need guys who have not married to pick off the slack for those 'emergencies' among coworkers. I absolutely hate doing something like that because it seems to me like a lack of respect. Respect is huuuge for me. Ideally, i would rather just say i'm not married and never ever bring it up or shoot it down whenever it's brought up by coworkers. It is ultimately my private life and … | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/19 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Know who's the OG MGTOW? Eminem!That may have happened, but the amount of red pill in his music/personality more than makes up for it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/19 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Know who's the OG MGTOW? Eminem!Eminem was cool in an emo sort of way | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/19 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Know who's the OG MGTOW? Eminem!In that respect he's not different from some MGTOWs | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | I missed the golden age of dating and my youth.Forget about the past, it's gone forever. Don't worry about the future because you don't have it yet. Concern yourself with the present and make the best of your situation. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Getting rid of bad habbitsGreat recommendations. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | I know i said that i don't necessarily need red pill but i swear sometimes it's fun to dip my ass in that cesspool. Like, have you heard Sandman. Have you heard of 'Captain Save-A-Hoe'? lol.. cracked me up so much!!!Because i have made my peace with the way the world is. I don't need to have to obsess over it through these Red pill videos. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/19 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Midlife crisis and apathyI think you just have to figure out (seriously) what it is you want in your life. Because it's like all your goals seem to be outsourced. Clearly, you can be a competitive person, so if you identify your purpose, you will become the 'alpha male' you always strived to be albeit in the wrong ways. And once you're working on your purpose, it's not a rat race. It's just you living your dream. Anyway, i will not comment on the midlife crisis because i haven't experienced it myself. (FYI, a 'midlife c… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/08/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | I've become insufferably negative about women and society and I need helpseconded! | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/08/19 08:38 PM |
| 1 | I know i said that i don't necessarily need red pill but i swear sometimes it's fun to dip my ass in that cesspool. Like, have you heard Sandman. Have you heard of 'Captain Save-A-Hoe'? lol.. cracked me up so much!!!I DO need some of Sandman's wisdom. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/08/19 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Serious questionI also don't feel like i'm missing out on anything. But i'm not sure it has always been the case. Sometimes i feel like i actually sought out women and i don't know if its because i was supposed to or because i actually wanted it. All i know right now is that i would sooner fry my brain than try to impress a girl with dates and gifts. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/19 10:50 AM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.When i see guys struggling to act chivalrously towards women, i joke and tell them to let feminism win. But it is really not a joke for me. If feminists want equality of the genders, then chivalry is obsolete and you can be yourself. Also, feminists point out that males chasing after women is not appropriate. And for this they have apps like Bumble which essentially makes women judges of men. It's not like they weren't before (in other apps), but Bumble makes it official. This makes it clear eno… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:39 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.As said in the OP, most guys in MGTOW are allergic to feminism. I don't know why, personally. Unless feminists invade my personal path in life, let them get the women all the rights they want. Clearly, any man giving into feminist ideologies is blue-pilled to a great extent. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:35 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.Absolutely! | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:30 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.Absolutely! | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:30 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.Yeah even from these comments i can see different perceptions. But for me, toxic masculinity is the practice of gatekeeping that men will do to ensure that fellow men will keep pursuing women and trying to get into long-term relationships. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?yeah, Walter White is incredibly MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 10:02 AM |
| 1 | my sister sent me a stupid pictureI'm sentimental as hell. If my mother gave me a worn-out shoe as an artwork of some kind, that thing is divine in my eyes. But that's just me. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/19 10:13 PM |
| 1 | What have you changed since GYOW?Gained a substantial amount of self-respect. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/19 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with internal shame for years. Anyone successfully stopped giving a fuck?Trying to please others could be your own way of trying to compensate for how you feel about yourself. Ironically, i think that you may help your situation by actually being an active listener. And by that i mean you let other people tell you stuff about their day, their life, and you actually listen. You will realise that everybody is 80% just worried about their own stuff. And if you want to help someone, you will understand why they need your help and hence you'll be nice in the kind way. In … | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Black Pill The Final FrontierI'm pretty sure that's the Red Pill buddy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/19 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Black Pill The Final FrontierI don't want that level#4 in my life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.Aware of the dangers. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.Yeah, i totally am. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 09:34 PM |
| 1 | How are you guys doing?Nowadays, i don't think one can do NoFap and MGTOW together. Some dudes on NoFap are only doing it because they want to look more attractive to girls, get validation from them, and possibly a girlfriend. So, as a MGTOW, it is difficult to be motivated by such posts. But hey, if that feminist convinced you that you're not MGTOW, all the best with that goal in NoFap. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.Yeah, i have a friend who always thinks i'm single because women did something to me. But even if one of them did, i don't really remember it. Before i learned about MGTOW, i just used to think that guys who avoided women because they were burned before were really cowards and it was pathetic. But that was just my blue pill brain rationale. Today, with the red pill knowledge, i don't judge. But at the same time, i never really looked at the risks and benefits of women. I just got used to being s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.in the internet, it is easy to choose your crowd. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.It's easy to talk about marriage if you're asked specifically about it and not just relationships. But as you say, it's good to focus on the positive. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.wise. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.True. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.That's good. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 11:01 AM |
| 3 | People say I would be happier if I took their adviceIt seems that this is bothering you a lot. So, let's consider this. Say you do decide to leave MGTOW and get a girlfriend. You have some good times, and some not-so good times. And eventually it doesn't work out. At that point, your friends will not take the blame for you being in that situation. It will be just "the way it goes" or they will blame the girl, you, or practically anything else. And because you will probably remember that red pill stuff and reason from there, you will be extremely … | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.Absolutely. I think that's where guys go wrong with that situation. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.I see your point. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Should women even be allowed on this sub?I don't see the point of restricting women in this sub. Most guys complain about how bad the world is because of them and i think it's only reasonable for them to read it and possibly change their ways. lol. But in all seriousness, MGTOW means Men Going Their Own Way so any woman coming to this sub will find it hard getting any attention thrown her way the way she wants. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/08/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Why is MGTOW such a pity party?Are you guys Men Going Your Own Way? Or Men Being Sent On Your Way? I like that. lol.. I keep saying it, Women don't care if you go MGTOW so it's just wasted effort complaining about this or that (hypergamy etc). | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 05:52 PM |
| 1 | A perfect example of MGTOW in literatureQuote for the years! | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?No, just for fun. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?good for you. Out of curiosity, what's your job? | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 08:27 AM |
| 1 | how to break the pof cycle?get an escort and be done with it bro. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Do you think MGTOW are born or made?Women would show interest but lost interest once they realized I didn't have enough money or wasn't a fun guy. Being a fun guy and having money are one and the same and they are all a woman needs in a guy. I usually watch movies and even real life and i see 'loving couples' and ask myself whether the woman would have stayed if the guy did not have a cool ride, a good house, or just the promise of a prosperous future. I think the fallacy of dating is that women want a nice and loving guy. But rea… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Stop being apologetic for the shitty behavior of others.I have bee n in shitty situations with people before and since coming on MGTOW and gaining some self-confidence,i would never allow anyone to disrespect me. Out in the world, i don't go out of my way to seek validation from people. I would love to be this extroverted guy but whenever i'm out, i hope to cross paths with as few people as possible. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Finally taking the redpillThey could a movie/series out of this.lol.. But i wish you well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?Thank you!! | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?Awesome bro. Maybe you can pick up photography on your travels too. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?Awesome. I like that dad part. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?I also think 40 will be my time to hang up too. I wish you well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?Sweet!! I wish you the best dude | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:12 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with being MGTOW and having a girl-friend?I'm assuming that by 'girl-friends' you mean friends who are girls or a friend who is a girl. Of course you can have those. I actually think that in some aspects it might actually be healthy to engage with them and see the species in its habitat (lol). You will still remain MGTOW if you don't marry or cohabitate or pine after your friend who is a girl. And most importantly, define yourself and don't let them define you (i.e. believing things about yourself because they think that of you). | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?Oh boy! What you are describing sounds like hell. But like i always say, all one needs to do is to make good money and it doesn't matter what kind of world you're living in. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Guys, what are your goals for the next ten years?I like that the things you aspire to are pretty specific and unique. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 02:10 PM |
| 1 | People think there is something wrong with me because I don't care about being singleTrue. Those kinds of men only want to drag him to their rat race because that's where they have experience. That's where they find their value. But a MGTOW knows better. Never let these gatekeepers tell you how to live your life. They only want to be able to measure their life against yours and think they've succeeded. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 10:13 AM |
| 1 | People think there is something wrong with me because I don't care about being singleYour friends are kinda mean bro. But let me say this, no guy is boring. If you have interests and hobbies, you're not mean. You could be super into snails and stuff and you would still be interesting. The main thing is to lean into your weird side and not be ashamed of your interests. I remember a trip i took with the class while in college. Everyone was super serious and acting very responsible but i was super wasted for the first few days. I was having such a blast. But then my buddy started h… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 10:08 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW vs TRPReading some comments here and it seems like people's understanding of MGTOW is different. That is okay. The true difference between TRP and MGTOW is that the TRPer is bound to end up in a long term commitment while the MGTOW will not end up in a long term commitment. While a MGTOW does not openly seek sex like a TRPer, he might have sex once in a while but it is up to him because he has his life and desires in check. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/08/19 07:57 AM |
| 1 | An overall observation of current male feelings and treatment nowadaysI don't know about you but I'm not out here fishing for compliments. Compliments make me uncomfortable because it's like you owe someone a compliment or at least your attention and a thank you. It's even more awkward if it's a girl giving you a compliment and she is a stranger. Maybe she is making fun or something (with her friends) . Anyway, these are things i would rather not worry about. At the end of the day, we all got mothers and sisters to give us all the true compliments that we need. Lo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/08/19 07:47 AM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Thank you. That is the truth right there. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:56 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Thanks, couldn't agree more. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:55 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Thank you. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:55 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Okay dude. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:52 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I think things are more settled for me at the moment. With my rage gone, i feel like a kid in a candy store. I don't know what i should achieve first. lol. Obviously, i want to own a home and have enough money to spare, travel the world, and ultimately do art at the highest level possible. Plus, i will have to work out and get the best physique i can (MGTOW is not letting myself go). I am reasonably young (26) so i think if i keep my head down to work and make smart investment decisions, i will … | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:50 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I'll seek out the video, thanks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:44 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.By the way, i would love to hear how you navigate the dating scene as a MGTOW especially is you apply red pill knowledge. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:44 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I relate best with your situation! I think yours is a great approach to MGTOW and i might also do the same. Being clear about what one wants is the point of all this. Once that is settled we can live the fullest life without worrying about what women do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:42 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.i think that's a good idea | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:37 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Awesome perspective. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 04:36 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I am kind of confused by your reply man. I like the points you make and despite that fact that you criticize my logic, i think we agree on most of the arguments that you make (for instance in my comments to others' replies). Let me explain this because it is what you point out: "so that you don't go MGTOW the hateful way that some guys here on Reddit will make you do. Instead, you understand that women are people. Some are not bad. And some are just as demented as the men who go for them. Basica… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I get your drift, and thank you for the reply. But i think for me, i would rather focus that red pill on myself. Like in the past, i allowed myself to be manipulated, to be taken advantage of. So that enrages me. Sure, that's what most women like to do. And as you have said, women are hypergamous by nature. But the fact that i would allow myself to be swept into their games when i actually do not need anything tangible from those interactions is just pathetic. So, while it is important to digest… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 08:28 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.You're right. I will leave that definition of what it means for a marriage to work out to speculation. Obviously, i know some economic background and it is perceptible that diminishing returns still apply to marriage itself. So, let's leave it to the married couples to figure out what 'work out' actually means. And by the same token, let's also acknowledge that it might seem to not be working out for them because we don't think it looks the way we think it should look. Anyway, while i appreciate… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 08:18 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Yes! Amazing reply. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I think you're right on that. Basically don't think with the wrong head. lol. The thing is, most men, including myself, cannot just will sexual desire away. But we can acknowledge it and choose not to be swept back to that blue pill existence. Putting women on a pedestal is a no no. So, i will agree with you on that. Anyway, since i am not interested in seeing women in that sexual/flirtatious sense, it does not matter what women do or how women are. They are just people. I don't want to make thi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 06:49 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Okay dude, sex is overrated. That we agree on. As a matter of fact, if any man is avoiding going his own way just because he needs sex (even though MGTOW is his path), i would just say get a prostitute and fix that need. That's what i would do. Anyway, i don't get that "women dies inside your brain" thing but i will say this. I may acknowledge women in life and even become civil or friendly with them. But what i couldn't give two fucks about is what women do with men or to men for that matter. I… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I understand your point. Let me say this, though. There are obviously many unhappy couples out there and many men about to get their worlds overturned by divorce and alimony. In that case, that glittery marriage and woman was certainly not gold. But i think there have been successful marriages as well. Now, before MGTOW gained the acronym, confirmed bachelors have existed for a long time. I don't believe these bachelors were necessarily bachelors because they thought women are bad or anything. T… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 06:14 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I would advise you to re-evaluate why you decided to go MGTOW in the first place. And basically deal with those issues in order to get to a positive place. Anger and depression are just symptoms. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 06:05 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.So basically all you need is a virgin who wants you and you will be out of MGTOW that very second? | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.My friend, i understand what you're saying about that marriage thing. But honestly, if we talk about it in realistic terms, strictly probability, some guy somewhere is certainly having a good marriage with a good woman. I have fought against this possibility in the past because i thought women are rubbish etc. But really, it's just plain denial. I refused to accept that there could be some good marriages somewhere so that it made sense for me not to blame myself for not thinking about marriage f… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 05:41 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Yes, at times it's easy to start comparing oneself with others and its downhill from there. So, it's also being civil and compassionate to oneself. I say that because when i started going my own way, i hated myself for it. I thought it was all my fault. But then i understood myself and that i was just responding to other people's expectations of me. So, basically, be civil with your adversaries and kind to yourself as well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 05:34 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.i will have to agree with you on that. I mentioned in a reply i made to that 'MGTOW hierarchy of needs' that i believe my process has been the stages of grief and i am at acceptance. The thing is that we should realize it doesn't necessarily stop there. It can go over once again from denial and then up to acceptance. So staying at acceptance is not a thing unless you work at it. That red pill rage rhetoric definitely does not help. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?absolutely!! | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?Oh my God! Entourage is probably the most mgtow show out there. It reminds me of Neil Strauss and his gang in 'The Game' before they went blue-pill. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?i'll check it out | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?i'll have to check this one out | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?yes!! and spartacus | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:23 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.that's a good alternative | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?eye-opening! | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?seriously? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?i'll check it out | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?haha.. okay | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?thank you! | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?thank you, i'll check it out. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?isn't that one bluepill though? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 08:19 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.How modern of you? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 05:36 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.But the quality of sperm declines as one ages. That's why i'm considering the option. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 03:24 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.Yeap. And label it 'Sperm Freezer' so no one may mess with it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 03:23 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.I hear that the sperm of a 50 year old can make babies with health or learning complications. So freezing is better than the alternative perhaps. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 03:22 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.lol. The future is uncertain and it's good to have a back-up plan. Anyway, it might be expensive but during that time, maybe i'll have enough money. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Is the world really that bad?I think you are up to your neck in privilege, that's what i think. Guys who post this stuff are only telling their reality and mind you, their reasons for getting into those tricky situations are just as rational as the reasons you cite for not getting into those situations. As a rule of life, assume that anyone you meet who is not clinically insane is not stupid. Like, people do things for very legitimate reasons. And others rely on their desperate situations to push themselves forward. That's … | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Some questions about MGTOWOkay. :) | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Some questions about MGTOWFirst off, no one is programmed to do anything other than mate with the most ideal specimen but as rational human beings, we have the ability to control our behavior. Therefore, women who are bad are not programmed that way; they simply choose to be that way. And hence, MGTOW do not blame women because they're women. Rather, a few mgtow blame SOME women because of the choice they have made. Now, with that being said, MGTOW is fundamentally about self-improvement aside from relationships/marriage… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 12:50 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW "Hierarchy of Needs"I don't feel like i'm following that hierarchy. I feel like mine has been the five stages of grief on this 'journey': denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I'm at acceptance and found some peace here. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW the right way ?I understand what you're going through because the same thing pretty much happened to me over and over. It made me feel like isolating myself. But at the end of the day, i developed fewer friends and more acquaintances when i relied on myself to have a good time. Like, in college i wasn't even a party guy but my version was to get wasted, dance around and then call it a night whereas my friends' idea was to get wasted and hit on girls. So, needless to say, we were not together during those parti… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 06:44 AM |
| 6 | It seriously disgusts me that 'foodie call' is an actual thing. Literal hell will freeze over before i stoop to that level.I have not seen those videos, i'll check them out. Youtube? | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/19 06:07 PM |
| 19 | It seriously disgusts me that 'foodie call' is an actual thing. Literal hell will freeze over before i stoop to that level.Lol, i was actually shocked to learn that. Like, all dudes should do is just split the fucking bill. It's 2019 for gods sake, let feminism win.lol | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/19 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Since I've stopped caring about women, I've been getting way more attentionGood for you! Personally, i wouldn't know because i don't feel like making eye contact for more than a second. | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/19 05:18 PM |
| 14 | Do you ever notice that married men never tell younger guys to hurry up and get married? It’s the grandmothers, mothers, sisters, girlfriends pressing for marriage.Women will always pressure men into marriage because we have different phases of life. Like, for a girl, the sweet spot is 25 to around 35 years. In those ten years, he can get any man she wants so she will usually go for a guy whose loaded, or a gym rat with poor life choices. But then she nears that 35 years and all of a sudden her biological cycle kicks in. For a man, you can have kids well into your 40s. And not only that, look at yourself in your forties and you'll see that that is the best… | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/19 05:06 PM |
| 1 | HEADS UP - Reddit sent a notification to read r/politics. They've displayed bias for the election. Is there a politically neutral platform for discussion?The irony is that this was a political neutral platform before you smeared this stuff around. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 03:13 PM |
| 1 | HEADS UP - Reddit sent a notification to read r/politics. They've displayed bias for the election. Is there a politically neutral platform for discussion?The irony is that this was a political neutral platform before you smeared this stuff around. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 03:13 PM |
| 1 | The End?Those YouTube creators are nothing more that doomsayers like they had in the middle ages (they went around telling people that they needed to repent or face God's wrath). But realistically, they would be shocked to realize just how much normal people can tolerate, or God for that matter. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 07:51 AM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.Women will claim that they help men to become great. And that entitles them to half your assets during a divorce. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 07:46 AM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.This is an interesting reply and i appreciate the arguments you make. First off, what makes a man an 'average man'? I would say it is the aspirations and the achievements that he has so far at the given time. So, i would argue that men should not settle themselves for marriage life, turn around and think of themselves as average and consequently feel unaccomplished deep-down after all is said and done. Basically if a man aspires to anything, he should pursue that thing FIRST before being distrac… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 07:41 AM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.The juice isn't worth the squeeze kind of thing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 09:32 PM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.I get that idea about men dating down and women dating up, but i mean to say that even in that dynamic, even an ugly man can get a woman, provided he isn't picky. So that's not difficult. But what is difficult is actually making something out of his 'ugly' self (that's not connected with pleasing the woman he chose). | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.That's it. Because most guys want a particular girl and so what do girls do? They all basically switch to basically that kind of girl (looks, personality). I have a theory that social media is homogenizing people rather than opening up people's perspectives. Anyway, it doesn't matter. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Confession time: i'm still Blue Pill, or was the world more blue pilled before it went full retard?Yess!! Make a youtube video about this. I'll watch. It seems like you've been around the block, so i would be interested to hear your perspectives on MGTOW and redpill generally. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 05:28 PM |
| 1 | I've had this idea for a REALITY SHOW for years that aligns with MGTOW..Sorry to say this but the show might never see the light of day. If you look at reality shows today, they all have a common thread, i.e. they always pander to the needs of the woman. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 05:22 PM |
| 1 | While mgtow is neccessary now, where do we go from here?For me, MGTOW is about being outside of that game of the sexes. I'm not even in the sidelines, i am away from the stadium doing stuff that i actually like. So, the hostility between the sexes will be tackled by the players involved. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 07:05 AM |
| 1 | How do you get rid of or reduce brain fog?Well, i think what you could do is limit the amount of time you spend on Reddit. Then, get a goof night's sleep. Also, you don't have to read books to get intellectual content. There's documentaries and videos too that are less involving in terms of consumption. By the way, i used to read alot of PUA content and even take down notes and let me tell you, it's all a load of crap. Just be yourself and pursue the things you love (being a scientist) and the girl will come to you if that's what you re… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 07:01 AM |
| 1 | There's this documentary-type show from Australia called EXTREME ENGAGEMENT. So basically this guy gets engaged and he decides to take off travelling the world for one year. He comes back and asks his fiance to join him on a year-long tour of the places he had been to.That's how it be though. Keep riding brother! | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | I'm going my own way! Hey! Hey you! I said I'm going my own way!Self-respect, self-reflection, and self-improvement are not an invention of MGTOW. If they did not work on them, then they are clearly using MGTOW for attention, i.e. faking it for the female's interest. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 10:08 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.It's that scheme called chivalry that magically persists in this era of gender equality.lol. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | I'm going my own way! Hey! Hey you! I said I'm going my own way!Guys who do that are indeed faking MGTOW for the female's attention, which is pathetic. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:49 PM |
| 1 | I'm going my own way! Hey! Hey you! I said I'm going my own way!I agree. But those who post on here i don't think seek any attention from women as obviously there shouldn't be any woman here. Seeking attention out there is just pointless because usually, a guy going MGTOW and then seeking attention would likely have a type. And if that type does not show him the time of day, then he may develop some rage. And to stop that, we have that "no women-hating policy", i.e. this MGTOW is not for that guy. Personally, I shy away from suggesting that all women are the… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 05:16 PM |
| 1 | There's this documentary-type show from Australia called EXTREME ENGAGEMENT. So basically this guy gets engaged and he decides to take off travelling the world for one year. He comes back and asks his fiance to join him on a year-long tour of the places he had been to.But see, this guy was really serious about "sharing his world" with his future wife and all the while he's doing these adventurous things and she keeps thinking that he's trying to impress her. I just think that if a man likes to travel and wants to travel, he should do it himself (or with like-minded fellas) rather than waiting for "that special girl" to travel with. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 05:00 PM |
| 1 | There's this documentary-type show from Australia called EXTREME ENGAGEMENT. So basically this guy gets engaged and he decides to take off travelling the world for one year. He comes back and asks his fiance to join him on a year-long tour of the places he had been to.Absolutely, She particularly didn't like chilly Mongolia, and coincidentally that's where the guy had gotten the most fun from his previous trip alone. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 04:56 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsHonestly, if a guy marries one of these thots and they take all his money, he totally deserves it. If a woman you're dating ever says that "He's not normally what i go for", then my brother you're in deep shit. 'Cause you're the marriage plan. She has had all her fill with the risky and intense one-off hookups with those 5% tinder chads just as you've presented yourself willingly for enslavement. That is why MGTOW teaches to be your own man, self reliant and better than you ever thought you coul… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 06:34 AM |
| 1 | How do you overcome the blue pill fantasy?I hope you don't get trampled over in that relationship. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 06:16 AM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.Right. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 09:45 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.Absolutely. And most guys think they are ugly but once they reach 35-40, with a decent income and a decent physique + confidence, all of a sudden they realize they are becoming noticed more. But then they are tied up in a marriage. Poor fucks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.I understand where you're coming from. The situation is definitely bad for men. And i would rather die than submit myself for enslavement. But to be honest, i don't really hold anything against women. That is how they have been raised and conditioned to behave. So if i get some female friends who respect my lifestyle, no problem, we'll have fun as fiends. The difference is i'm not looking, nor am i there to play monkey for their amusement.The point is that if you're a social person, you can stil… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:14 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.He survived that period because idiots like myself do not know that backstory.lol.. Thanks for enlightening me though | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Does the "looks black pill" have any merit? Correct me if I am wrong.I recently heard that statistic that women on Tinder swipe right on like 20% of the dudes while guys swipe right on 65% of the chicks. So, girls clearly go off looks. But i also think that given some time and more interaction, the girl can still get attracted to a short Asian or Indian guy if he is confident and has a good personality. At the same time, that just means that the short Asian or Indian guy may have to simp the fuck out of himself in order to get the attention of the chick while the… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Still miss a woman I once lovedBest solution is to meet her again and see her for who she is after you're now redpilled. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 05:25 PM |
| 1 | This is why we CAN have nice thingsYes!! I want to see ripped, confident, and bossed up dudes telling us about MGTOW because that's what i am molding myself to be. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 07:19 AM |
| 1 | My heroes are MGTOWI also see that trend. That's why i find it hard to watch some genres of movies. But in my opinion, the movies with a strong female lead are good as long as there are no beta orbiters and the female is not idealized like "here is the female hero" thing. Like, the series Killing Eve is not bad. But Scandal was rubbish. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 07:16 AM |
| 1 | My heroes are MGTOWI think Tom Cruise has played a MGTOW role in Jack Reacher. Check this out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1MtT_S3bc Sorry for the weird orientation of the clip. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .lol. She was basically talking about how society is set up and how men and women's roles have changed and how that is affecting men. Actually, i just realized that if that video was made by a man, it would totally be called women-bashing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/08/19 08:39 PM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .Also don't know about her past. Frankly, most people here criticize single moms so much so in that context NAWALT yes probably. I just like her arguments. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/08/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .I agree with that logic. I like how she was saying that today women do not look at marriage as a forever thing. A time comes when they think they are not happy so they opt out. And to add on to that point, the woman has actually dealt with her biological clock if she had kids, so the guy is basically just garbage. But garbage that pays back after divorce. What inconceivable reason would men have to put themselves in that position? Beats me. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/08/19 06:02 PM |
| 1 | How do I change my current eng-goal (getting women)?You can get sex and female companionship without getting attached to women, due. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/08/19 05:11 PM |
| 1 | How do you be a gray man?I think i have tried all my life to be a gray man when it comes to relations with girls. I know for sure that in college people were wondering why i'm never seen walking around with a girl. And i did try to do that, though to be honest, whoever was looking did not care. Sometimes, you have to realize that even if you become what society wants you to be, there will be something else they pick on. These days i think i am confident in who i am. I don't really think that me not befriending or chatti… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/08/19 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Am I less of a man for not wanting to put up with women's bullshit?You can totally live without a woman's affections. But the point is that you have to replace that need with something. Monks replace it with faith and gay men replace it with, well, other gay men's affections. I just think that it's not healthy to fill that part with a hatred for women. It's also useless btw (women don't care you're MGTOW) . It's better to fill it with an urge for adventure whatever that means to you. P. S. I am MGTOW. I get to live the most enjoyable and productive life i can. | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/08/19 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Sex drivePS - You'd have to cut your testicles and not your penis, silly. Wait, if you cut off your testicles, does that mean that you would never get hard? And if you did ever get hard, would it not because you desire sex? By the way, i think sex drive is in the mind. It's not a matter of T. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Sex driveI get you brother. I also wish that it would go away sometimes. But the thing is, your sex drive can be channeled into productive things because the body is basically creating energy for you. So, while an asexual life would be freeing, i think it's good to pump the brakes for a second | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/07/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't realize they worship womenI agree with your analysis. Honestly, if you look at it, romance and dating is nothing more than a power-play of sorts. The man plans a treat - the woman likes the guy and agrees to sex - the woman gets pregnant and now its the guy's turn to give into the family. Give and take. My friends and i argue about this issue so much because i tell them that while you may be hard pressed to find a full-fledged gold digger, 99.9% of women in the dating scene like a guy with money. And it's not about the m… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Coach Red Pill's take on MGTOWI also struggle to believe that a guy can shun women for ten years or more and the suddenly wake up one day and decide to marry one. That affair would be doomed to fail from the start because he would always avoid turning into a simp which is what the woman would expect. So the inevitable would happen - divorce and the woman ends up with half his assets. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Coach Red Pill's take on MGTOWI think that since he is there to make content, he generalizes the desire to go MGTOW so much to capture most men's situations. However, i don't think he is particularly wrong. For one, most of the older men here on MGTOW rarely complain about their children, which indicates that they got some satisfaction from having them. The problem is the women and precisely the women using them and ending up with a penny of theirs. You're probably right when you say that his message would appeal to younger … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Advice wanted from older MGTOWs: Concerned about 4th quarter of life without kids, or familyI am not senior but i'll give my 2 cents anyway. I think if you make it to 60 with no family and kids and you're still broke, you will find it difficult to justify GYOW. Also, society may pity your situation and if you care at all for that, it can break you. However, if you're still balling at 60 my man you did it right. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Why do people think incels have a bad personality? What makes a good personality?I don't think there is anything such as bad personality, unless you're a serial killer or something. However, there is such a thing as not fully formed personalities. I think knowing oneself and actually being confident in one's skin is all an incel needs to do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 05:24 AM |
| 2 | "MGTOW is a bunch of betas"I used to buy into this PUA bullshit of betas and alphas in the past. It's all nonsense. Everyone has a personality and if he is happy with that personality, that is what is best for that guy. This beta and alpha BS is just a way to judge one man above the other by some illusive and idiotic logic that 5 people you meet can't even agree on. I hate it when society tries to rate people. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Question about coping up with lonelinessVery true. Loneliness can be managed by interacting with people. Even women, just don't think marrying one will solve loneliness. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 05:16 AM |
| 2 | A truthful rantTrue. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Anyone here who has never dated or took part in romance?First off, cheers for being open about yourself here. I can only hope to meet your openness in my reply as well. I have technically date, i have actually kissed and hugged, BUT i have never had actual sex with a woman. I also hear that missing out feedback although it is not very outrightly said. Here's what i can say: There's nothing wrong with you because you have not done those things. If it bothers you that you haven't done them, then you can seek a prostitute and fulfill them promptly. Howe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 08:21 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand how to go my own wayMy idea of a perfect life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 08:00 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand how to go my own wayGreat reply here! We live in a society that thinks marriage makes a man's life better - that "woman's touch." The only way married men really outdo single men is because the wife expects the guy to bust his ass for the family. And the successful married men do just that. Nothing wrong with it, just when the divorce comes knocking he better make sure he isn't fucked on that (an uphill task). This is where the "plan" as you say falls apart. I don't think this guy (OP) is bad because he cares for s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 07:56 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW would be so much more effective without the women bashingSuccess is the best revenge kind of thing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Becoming MGTOW this year has changed how i look at society and my future in it.I think i'm a cool guy but each time i try to think about myself in a relationship, it just doesn't feel right. I don't see it. So, yeah, i think even having a wife is unfathomable. But i living in a society that relies on marriages and scoffs at bachelors, it's only normal to ask oneself what's the problem. But i also think that for guys who really earn their place in society and achieve something, that bachelorhood is celebrated and actually celebrated. I can think of John Singer Sargent and B… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Becoming MGTOW this year has changed how i look at society and my future in it.Yeah, i messed up that bit. I was typing on my phone and just hit send without looking it over. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Becoming MGTOW this year has changed how i look at society and my future in it.I agree 100%. MGTOW allowed me to rationalize things to the point where i no longer doubt myself even if other people might. I think self-awareness is the best reward from this. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Becoming MGTOW this year has changed how i look at society and my future in it.Your lifestyle is just what i aspire to be. You can either fill a MGTOW existence with love or with hate. I think love is more fun, judging by your account.lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Becoming MGTOW this year has changed how i look at society and my future in it.I give this reply props, and also the other thoughtful replies below. I have been posting to this sub for some time now and in these replies, i am glad to see some openness. Like, hell would freeze over before some guys admit that they sometimes get sad and miss the sex and comradery with women. These things are perfectly fine. At times I challenge my stance on MGTOW: I am just not boyfriend material (incel) and trying to deal with the only options realistically available to me? Am I unattractiv… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | How can I let a girl know I’m MGTOW?How hard can it be to tell her that you're not looking for anything serious? That you want to focus on yourself and grow as a person. That's all you need say. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 07:09 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW And Incels Are The Polar OppositesLol!! Incels are actually zealots tbh!! 😁 | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Having a Child Without a Woman?I get what you mean. I think that even though women have a biological clock to contend with, they can easily have a kid in their 40s and 50s once they freeze their eggs and use a surrogate. But as men, we have to really think about it. Because the topic of surrogacy for single men is a taboo subject. So the only option is to father a child with a woman and then separate later because procreation was the only incentive. Adoption is a noble path and it is worth considering too. I hope you figure o… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/19 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Having a Child Without a Woman?Sometimes i feel like having a child with a woman you might as well have married her because it's almost the same kinds of entrapments. First, she can demand child support from you even when she's with another man. Second, she can dictate when you see your child if you even do at all. But i am not totally onboard with the no child thing because whenever i'm with my parents i feel sad that i would not be able to give them grandkids. So in those moments i kind of backtrack a bit. If i did have kid… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/19 07:11 AM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.I think as a man, not even a MGTOW, it is important to dissociate a bit during these situations. Like, that has been my mistake in the past. I was always thinking about how i was presenting myself, does she think i'm cool? Such dumb stuff. If it's the right girl for you, you don't even have to worry about these things 'cause she doesn't care anyway. Stepping into MGTOW has enabled me to dissociate a bit. I don't get hang up on such thoughts because i have already established that I'm not looking… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/19 01:54 AM |
| 1 | I am terrified of being average. Any wisdom?I think i get what you mean. I am 26 and i think i have achieved well for someone of my age. One day i want to be a successful visual artist, the next i want a thriving online venture, and then i think those are unrealistic and a highly paying corporate job is the safe bet while i do the rest. Still i have always wanted to travel and paint interesting landscapes and people. I would also like to visit Japan and maybe live there for a while if i like it. And also probably own a home at a quiet pla… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | I want to loose my physical attraction to women, can you help?You are just idealizing them. Surely there must be something you like more in your life than women. Find that and obsess over it for a while. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively BetterI hope for your sake that you're some kind of biologist/zoologist because this is quite an odd indulgence. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 05:52 PM |
| 1 | The case against traditional masculinityI know what you mean but i think your assessment is pretty flawed. Traditional masculinity is not inherently bad. I think it is properly okay to be civil and even help out others in society, including women. What is important is to not do it just so that women or others will like you. Do it because you want to. MGTOW for me is not about escaping from all responsibility but rather choosing the responsibilities i can accomodate without being suckered into a situation. For example, i WILL provide f… | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/07/19 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Girl here with questionsPump and dump has nothing to do with respecting or not respecting someone. I'm sure girls would think it is, because sex should always come with emotional baggage. Personally, i wouldn't even consider pump and dump because in the process of getting into the situation, i bet i'll have to wade the blue pill waters for a bit. Better stick to prostitutes or just tough it out. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/07/19 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Another reason I'm glad I'm mgtow. Fluidity...and kind of a rant.Honestly, i'm gonna enjoy that.lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?After reading your great reply about three times, let me say this. I understand that this is like an echo chamber of sorts. I will admit that a part of me wants to get the same content over and over. Like, i would hate to slip up and then think to myself 'Dammit, i knew it!' Of course women are not the only people who ruin relationships. That is not why i say i don't want to get into a relationships because if that were the case i would date the angelic men who would offer the perfect relationsh… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 04:15 PM |
| 1 | I wasted all afternoon analyzing Tinder and Bumble. Here's the results.Honestly if you get with a chick on Bumble, you deserve to be walked all over. Because you fully submitted yourself to be rated by a female, so you will feel like you ought to prove yourself. Bumble might claim to give females the power to initiate but you're dumb to think that that's where that power stops. I totally agree with your research btw | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?Relationships might work for some people. I hope yours works out. Honestly, the 'mantras' in this sub makes so much sense for someone who has been in a long relationship, been cheaten on and dumped. Now he looks back, notices some common patterns and the wasted time and money, then credits these mantras. Younger men like myself believe these mantras FIRST before the show even starts, precisely because we know ourselves. We know how it ends and we don't want that. It may seem ridiculous to people… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Another reason I'm glad I'm mgtow. Fluidity...and kind of a rant.I can totally relate to this!! I am about 26 years of age, and I'm about to finish my MBA. Actually, i paid the last of the fees for that last month and I'm now just grinding the homestretch. After this i have literally nothing to do besides pay rent and food. I am unemployed but i get good online gigs. If i decide i will get a job, i'll do it for a while no problem. I do art on the side so that's my true passion and what i hope to be doing in the end. I just got so happy the other day when i wa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Whoever came up with the phrase "the juice isn't worth the squeeze"? Every time i hear it i immediately think of MGTOW. But it's true.I totally agree.. I really hate that romance is basically the guy being monkey until the girl is satisfied. I have never been okay with it even when i used to do it in my blue pill past. Your description is just red pill gospel. Amen! | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Found this gem on an Amazon review of "Men on Strike"Why take a risk, really? lol. I love this wise analysis. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/07/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of adopting this lifestyleWhat about a surrogate arrangement? (If you want kids of your own - not that adoption is bad). | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Going out with girl friends.This is very helpful, thanks for taking the time to write this. Judging by these questions, it think i should end this friendship immediately and look for some other friend. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/07/19 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Need some adviceMaybe the awareness of red pill might suffice at the moment. But if you continue to see that you want MGTOW, then apply it to yourself. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/07/19 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Teenager MGTOWYou say stop trying to get a gf which shows that deep inside you kind of want one. Which is not bad. I would say stop trying to get a gf and let the girl find you! Because you're totally worth it. And to prove that to yourself, pick one thing. Say you would like to learn to play a guitar. Make it so that by the end of the year you're a master at that. And surely enough, you will realize your value and your lust will find appropriate outlets. I would not advice jerking off because i did it for li… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 05:35 PM |
| 1 | The Case Against NoFlapYou're absolutely right! I don't get these superpowers criticism. Like, if I'm on NoFap and i see a huge change in my life, that is superpowers FOR ME! That's all that is important. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 06:48 AM |
| 1 | The Case Against NoFlapThis is enough guys! How comes people who are criticizing NoFap are those who don't struggle with the addiction? Like, do you even know how it is. Can you tell a drunk that sobriety is dumb when you don't know how it feels to be constantly drunk? NoFap is the same. It may be dumb or made-up, but if it makes sense to people dealing with the addiction, that's all that matters. Mind your own shit. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Trying to understand the fapping v escorts dynamicThat is understandable. But personally, i think the life i live on NoFap is worth it, i.e. more focus, i achieve more, interact more, and generally feel better about myself. Now if were to fall back and tell myself that i am preventing the chances of prostate cancer, i get addicted, rarely get to focus, i achieve less, and generally feel bad about myself and my life. It is definitely a trade-off, but i think No Fap life is the better quality life and that's what's important to me. In any case, t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/19 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Trying to understand the fapping v escorts dynamicThe fact that fapping is easily available makes stopping oneself difficult. From experience, i can tell you that NoFap is totally worth it. It's benefits are not bullshit. I haven't really done escorts but i think it's something that is easier to avoid getting addicted. Anyways, its NF for me. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/19 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Going out with girl friends.We have fooled around but she did turn down sex. Lol. Come on, mock me! Seriously though, i got over it and i actually don't desire her anymore. I want to show her that i am no longer hanging out with her for sex. But after reading the comments here, i think this friendship has gone sour. She's fun sometimes but then she like to ignore/keep silent about stuff and i have to say them outright, which usually makes me angry and stressed. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Going out with girl friends.I am actually doubting whether this friendship is worth it. Because if I'm being honest, i want to say "I'm not coming to meet you only for me to figure out what we'll be doing and then i pay for those activities." If i can't say that, i should probably cut this off. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Going out with girl friends.It goes beyond the bill, sadly. Sometimes it's like i carry the fun train solely. FYI, i am referring to my blue pill age (which is where our friendship comes from). | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Going out with girl friends.I think you're right. What is difficult for me is to assert myself in my red pill mentality that i have now (i knew her from blue pill days). | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Tricking vs Simping: Are they the same?I am a bit cautious about paying for sex because that can become addictive and then it will end up taking just as much money as having a constant partner. The only good thing is that with a hooker, you have sex when YOU want. The downside, of course, is that the woman probably doesn't enjoy it as much. That is controversial to say in this sub but i think sex is much better when the woman is into it. I wouldn't know, but i guess. lol. From logic. So, ask yourself, do you want to have sex when you… | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 05:21 PM |
| 1 | What are some ways to increase your willpower?I completely agree. I am working on a No Fap long streak and your reply makes so much sense right now. I'm thinking about approaching NF like improving my mental health because that's what it feels like to me. I swear, if this group had messages like yours instead of subtle women bashing and semantic-based discussions that i fall prey to, we would all be 90% along in improving our lives. Thanks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts For MGTOW Who Are OK With Some PUA ActivitiesSex is not the problem. If you are extremely clear that you do not want children and you take the appropriate precautions, then you can enjoy a healthy sex life. Risks are always there to be managed, not avoided, IMHO. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:59 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW gained a bad reputation.MGTOWFSI - Men Going Their Own Way For Self Improvement. lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/19 07:50 AM |
| 1 | GYOW is not as easy as it sounds (my life summarized)That is true. But what i would argue is that for someone like myself who has not even figured out to socialize, MGTOW may make things more testy by keeping me from fun experiences that involve groups. Btw, i have learned on this sub that activities that have been suggested 'for fun' are mostly solitary. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/07/19 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Holding frame and confidence make you doubly exploitableOr just be an asshole. Assholes have no problems with confidence. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/07/19 07:35 PM |
| 1 | GYOW is not as easy as it sounds (my life summarized)You're right, society favors extroverts more than introverts, especially when those introverts come with antisocial tendencies. And oh, i really have ejaculated my fill! *kisses fist* LOL! | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/07/19 01:48 PM |
| 1 | In response to stop misrepresenting.....I think i get your point now. Defending MGTOW might sometimes be like sanitizing the 'Incel elements' within the group. But, honestly, i don't think the alternative (marginalizing ourselves) helps matters either. It's good to take ownership of one's beliefs. Maybe if someone you care about and who you care for gets these false notions of what MGTOW is, it is prudent to take a minute and explain MGTOW. Because no one else will. There are concepts we can agree on that set us up as true MGTOW, for … | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/07/19 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Now I'm Curious : Being SingleBeing Single - The freedom to spread your love to the things you love or people you love in a rational and safe way. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/07/19 04:30 PM |
| 1 | In response to stop misrepresenting.....A wise man once said that philosophical debates have a tendency to argue their philosophy out of existence. I like that your post seems rational and sensible enough and i agree with most of the things you say. But at some point, we have to give some definiteness to MGTOW. And that is through conversational wisdom with wise guys like yourself. If for nothing else, then to prevent people like me from sliding into being arrogant damned men who 'move out of the box' a bit too far (this could also be… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/07/19 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Stop misrepresenting MGTOWI am shocked that someone would call out your logic on that comment. I think it's kinda delusional to think that MGTOW is about 'doing your thing' and damn the consequences. That is the kind of approach that leads to instant gratification and a harsh pain afterwards (van by the river). But hey, it's their life! | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/07/19 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Stop misrepresenting MGTOWYeah, i don't also think i would dub myself "the MGTOW guy" even though i fully commit to this. I might loosely hint at it though. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Stop misrepresenting MGTOWI like that very much. Honestly, i learn a lot from how people are actually applying MGTOW in their lives and yours is very interesting and also fun. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/19 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Stop misrepresenting MGTOWSorry, just had to vent. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/19 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Got Rejected, now I am vigilantI completely get that "no longer look in the direction of women when out in public I simply look forward or downward." I do that sometimes when i think looking at them will trigger some blue pill tendencies. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/19 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Why do people tell me I will regret staying single?I find it pointless to argue such things. Happiness just comes down to being able to create relatively constant and sufficient doses of dopamine or feel good hormones to your brain. Then if that's the case, when you're single, technically you have the widest choices as far as activities to derive dopamine rather than when you have to do something your partner needs you to do. This is precisely why single people are happy especially in later years when married people's relationships have plateaue… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/19 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Any Christians here?And can we just appreciate the fact that Jesus was actually a MGTOW? lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/19 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Maintaining social skillsI have probably been weird but i don't think i have been fortunate enough to be creepy. lol. I think smiling is overrated. If you smile so much but are not really an extrovert then what are you? A creepy weird guy. I would just say, just be doing something all the time. That will save you from overthinking social situations and it will also let other people approach you when they want something genuine, not simply because its awkward. About the tribe of guy friends, it's pretty difficult to cult… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/07/19 08:30 AM |
| 1 | I got banned from r/MGTOW when I needed help.First off, there's a lot of information about studying female psychology. I'm sure these people mean well by that advice and go for it if you want. But for me, i have absolutely no interest in studying female psychology. It is a slippery slope my friend and i can tell you that from my experience. I have read such material in the past and tricked myself into thinking that i have finally understood women. That made me pine after women more. It's pointless. So, today, i just see women as a whole di… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/07/19 08:18 AM |
| 1 | What does mgtow mean to you.I agree that MGTOW is all about taking charge of YOUR life and YOUR choices. Awareness of the biological and hypergamic (is that a word?) games in which people are engaged makes any pestering to marry quite laughable. It is all hormones, after all. I think transcending that is itself a great advancement and evolution as a man. Anyway, i think what i enjoy about MGTOW most is that no one is sucking my bank account dry. | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/07/19 06:04 AM |
| 1 | So, how do you interact with women now?There was a phase when i was so much into texting. I would start these chats and basically i felt like it was up to me to keep the life going in those chats. That really sucked and i would get frustrated about them sometimes. Like, how comes it was the guy who made the effort in chats? Well, i quickly moved out of that phase and as soon as i did, i began to see that dynamic happening in other areas of life. It was up to the guy to give the girl a good time. And since that is how they are conditi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/06/19 07:19 AM |
| 1 | "Everything that has ever happened has made me who i am."Yeap. There's this saying that goes something like "Lessons in life will be repeated until they are learned!" I think that applies to the blue pill men falling prey to hypergamy and the like. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/06/19 06:48 AM |
| 1 | You're not Alone nor are You to Blame - the Beauty of MGTOW&the InternetCan i upvote this to the moon? | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/06/19 05:07 PM |
| 1 | I just want to focus on being happyI relate with this so much! I went through a phase in my life when i would just devour pick-up books and practice some stuff just be interesting. Now, the awkward thing was that when i returned back to school (that was in college), i found out to my utter shock that my best friend had been reading a certain pick-up book that i loved so much. He was into the same stuff! The difference between us was that he seemed to get it. Girls were always into him. And i would talk to the same girls and they … | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/06/19 12:48 PM |
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