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You’re not really doing much to deny the incels-only-want-to-use-women allegations by pitching an arrangement where women engage in training relationships with men for a set amount of time (one year) before what? Getting kicked to the curb single again and a year older? At least Peace Corps volunteers get the satisfaction of knowing they helped impoverish families survive, not just letting some awkward guy use their body for a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:20 PM
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> But I've been rejected by almost every intelligent, liberal/leftist women I've ever approached, despite checking off these intellectual boxes. Obviously I don't go into every approach expecting a "Yes" and know there's one of a myriad of reasons someone can choose to say "No". But if intelligence and empathy were really as important as women would say, liberal and "softer" men would have more success in the dating scene. > Except the quiet part that a lot of women don't want to say out loud is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:20 PM
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Sure sounds like you have an obsession with sex and that obsession is giving you an obsession with a fictional reality where women have an obsession with fucking you on a unilateral whim. Sounds like an interesting premise for a movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:00 PM

There’s a difference between being comfortable with something, being aware of something, and expecting something. You have to be aware that a plane can crash when you board it, but if you’re expecting it you should never step foot in an airport. And if you’re comfortable with dying in a fiery crash…I don’t know what to tell you. Also, there’s probably a shitload of sampling bias in your anecdote of interacting with soooooooooo many foul women. That’s a polite way of saying “sure, Jan”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:01 PM
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Dude, we’re only using the language of the conversation. If all these boys and men are having a crisis of “masculinity” then the solutions are going to be framed in terms of “masculinity.” Call it whatever you want, all of the advice just boils down to “Don’t be terrible, and if you care about your masculinity then call it ‘positive masculinity.’”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:04 PM
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I love how in sarcasm you both unintentionally described what therapy is for and gave the exact response someone should give when learning that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:33 PM
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I agree. Those who are rudderless in their self-identity journey will always find it easier to just look at other examples and ape them—regardless of if they’re personally compatible with those examples. That’s how you wind up with them being manfluenced by the worst role models alive: those who perform cartoonish masculinity, those who sound compelling despite being dead wrong about everything, those who present a reductive simplified version of masculinity that appeals to people who only engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:30 PM
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That would require people on the other end considering the act of telling a joke a risk, which we don’t do. Maybe if a joke fails to land or winds up being edgier than expected we might consider it a risk in retrospect, but telling a joke isn’t the “high-risk” behavior normal people usually associate with confidence. It’s a social skill. That’s all. Being able to say something that makes other people laugh is just a matter of mental nimbleness, creativity, timing, and human connection. For those…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:19 PM
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Because if you are a sex worker, access to your body is the product. You are treating your body like a commodity, and marketing it accordingly—as an object. You just described all blue collar trade work. Singling out sex work and reducing it—and it alone—to “objectification” might make one feel good about their perceived moral superiority over the SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS, but it’s not a reflection of real life. All physical workers are objects or none of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:37 PM
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I agree. It’s just that in terms of sex work, people (not me, which is why I disagree with the phrasing) think any interaction or patronizing of their services is “objectification.” No matter how consensual, no matter how fairly compensated, no matter if the sex worker is advertising it in big bold letters. I don’t “objectify” a plumber by calling one in to handle a leak, paying them, and sending them on their way. That’s quite literally the plumber-customer relationship. Yet turn the plumber in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:32 PM
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Nobody’s saying to disrespect OF or treat them like trash. “Like an object” is a meaningless personal value phrase that I wouldn’t agree with, but if you’re paying her for the services she provides then what’s the issue? That’s literally what she wants from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:12 PM
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Like i think women don't have a consistent ideological belief. it’s a goddamn travesty that billions of people across cultures and geographies don’t have a unified belief system. How hard is that?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:05 PM

You didn’t limit your point to rape and violence, just “criticizing men.” Obviously a woman who speaks up about her abuse doesn’t just have an ax to grind. But the murkier more common situations where women express generalized frustration at men has to come from something. And here’s the thing: I’m not saying that if her generalized frustration comes from trauma that the frustration isn’t warranted. But it helps to acknowledge where the anger comes from. If it came from violence, yeah, the abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:02 PM

But…how many times has a woman said her antipathy toward men was the result of mistreatment from men? They’re not running away from it. Hell, a lot of times the mental health journey they pursue will lead them to acknowledge that’s exactly why they hate men. Exercise as much empathy or compassion as you want, but you have to call a spade a spade, especially when the spade is calling themselves a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:33 PM
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I agree broadly. Not everyone can be helped the same way. But we (all of society, not just women) are begging them (not all men, obviously) to do fuckin something because the results aren’t showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:44 PM
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That’s the long-enduring question of dating. One thing’s for sure: they are not the women trying to entertain and engagement bait for fun and profit on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:56 PM
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I think the phrase “however you want to define invisible” is exactly why so many men feel invisible. That word has a definition and adhering to that definition is how single men can go about life without seething resentment toward strangers. A man who is actually invisible would get mindlessly bumped into all the time, have their greetings and pleasantries ignored, get talked over as if they weren’t even in the room. What men here complain about is women refusing to acknowledge their presence wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:53 PM
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Anyone you don’t personally know or isn’t obviously extraordinary in one direction or the other is “average.” That’s not a woman thing, that’s an I-share-a-rock-with-8-billion-people-and-if-I-had-to-do-a-statistically-rigorous-bell-curve-slotting-every-goddamn-stranger-my-head-would-explode thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:46 PM
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As soon as the mainstream money and political clout run out, every last one of these manfluencers—and their followers—are going to hit the public with puppy dog eyes and AI-generated appeals to empathy and get accepted as “redeemed” without putting in one iota of genuine work. I’m just waiting to see how it turns out when that pendulum swings back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:29 PM

Some of y’all a’int never beating the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:57 AM

“Leftists” and anyone else with a screen has been warned about a violent incel uprising for at least 10 years now. Do it or don’t, we’re still not gonna dole out government sex slaves to soothe your loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:54 PM

The system is shitty, but don't blame it in this case. Women WANTED it. The economy wants workers, women want independence. The system as it stands is far from perfect, but it’s also far preferable to the keep-a-husband-or-die systems of old. That’s why most real talk of making it unshitty is with the goal of improving conditions for everyone including women, not kicking women out and locking the door behind them. You’re not putting this toothpaste back in the tube. Oh, and it’s not like men nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:36 PM

Yeah, because an economic system reliant on consistent, constant cancer-like growth was always going to allow for half the potential adult workforce staying at home generating nothing. Oh, and it’s not like men never die early or leave their families or lose their jobs or get sick or injured. Whether by their enthusiasm or their necessity, you were never going to permanently keep women from working.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:08 PM
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I've noticed that younger men seem more effected by this than like Gen X or Millennials. Is it because those guys knew actual people from the idealized era and Gen Z and lower don't or know less? My simplistic “kids these days” take is that chronically online Gen Z is being taken for a ride by older generations who know how to socially engineer. Boomers might not know how to save a PDF, but if they see an opportunity to shape an entire generation for power and profit, they’ll damn sure find the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:48 PM
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Media illiteracy will get you every time. And we thought it was only the (literal) boomers we had to warn against nostalgia propaganda. Their grandchildren are coming down with it too!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:19 PM
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And you can say the same thing about feminist girls or young women. They are not 100 years old. They don't know what it's like to not vote, not work, or not have a bank account. So their nostalgia is nonsense too. Different motivations. Trying to work to maintain a sense of independence isn’t being “nostalgic” for feminism, it’s just trying to maintain the same quality of life you see your male peers have. To the extent that they reference feminism, it seems less nostalgic and more a necessary c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:02 PM
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I mostly agree but am just wondering how young men got themselves to be nostalgic for a type of woman who never existed in their natural lives. They always bitch about their mommies lying to them but it’s either their daddies lying to them about the type of woman they got (and, thus, what their sons should expect) or they spent too much time ingesting really old pop culture and never realizing it was just curated to sell ad space. Either way, it’s really bizarre to see men 10-20 years younger th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:50 PM
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Blue, red, green or purple, all these “experiments” are stupid AF. “Oh, why is the state of dating apps a raging dumpster fire these days?” I dunno, maybe because half the users would rather make some kind of spiteful point than meet someone in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:16 PM
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The gender war is stupid and needs to stay a chronically online curiosity. It’s utterly ridiculous that having empathy or common sense is seen as a weapon and that you’re “taking a side” by being decent to someone of the opposite sex—or, even more stupid—that you’re “betraying” a side by calling out dipshit behaviors by someone of the same sex. Don’t be a dick. Life couldn’t get any simpler than that. Don’t accept allegiances that don’t apply to you and don’t recognize allegiances that don’t nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:31 PM
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The word “all” has significance, otherwise bad actors wouldn’t have shoehorned it in as a poison pill. If I tell someone to eat mushrooms, I’m advocating for them to try my favorite pizza topping. If I tell them to eat all mushrooms, I’m trying to have them killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:30 AM
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Don’t hit on girls at work—and definitely don’t hit on them at family gatherings! As for school, students get together all the time. That’s kind of their thing. Again, my question is what can the guy I was responding to specifically do that would ruin his world-renowned reputation—even at school? Now I’ve been here long enough to have heard all the stories of these poor men who dared look their crush in the eye and get spat on, crotch-kicked, and verbally berated for it all before getting stabbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:31 PM
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What mistakes are you going to make that anyone outside of the handful of people you know would care to remember the next day? “Local boy fails to make eye contact, jumbles up his words, while asking girl for a date” is not the kind of headline you see on AP News. 99.99999% of men in the world don’t have nearly enough reputation to be canceled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:49 PM

Would that I could live in such a delusional state that I could just conclude that any women who doesn’t go into immediate gusher mode over my average out-of-shape ass simply isn’t attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:20 PM
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It’s a yellow flag. I’m gonna need to gauge her ability to decouple fantasies from real life expectations. Read about your billionaire mafia dons who moonlight as hockey players and have eyes for only you, but realize that I make what I make and can’t skate worth a lick. Be a Disney princess but also be prepared to sit down for mature conversations about bills, childcare and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:34 PM
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“Some people like eating just bread and water instead of meat and vegetables” - translation: nobody actually likes bread and water, but some people are too poor to buy good food. Then I guess they wouldn’t say they like eating bread and water, would they? The problem is people hear “I’d rather be single than in a bad relationship” and think that means “I love being single forever and there’s no other circumstance that would make me happy” when their actual meaning is in—shocker—the sentence that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:44 PM
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I’d rather just be wanted for how I look or how good I am at sex or something along those lines Don’t delude yourself. The value we bring to other people’s lives is a significant portion of why we are liked. You just want people to value you for things that just so happen to result in free enthusiastic sex for you just for existing. Every bit as self-serving, with an unnecessary side of self-pity thrown in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:45 PM
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I expect someone who understands how stupid people can be on social media to call out the stupid for what it is, not just explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:44 PM
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No it doesn’t. “Happier than a bad relationship” has been the known standard since day one. And even if it isn’t said using those exact words 100% of the time (because who needs to hear the exact same sentiment said exactly the same way every time until kingdom come?), it should be pretty obvious that a bad relationship is the worst possible outcome, even moreso than staying single. This is common sense. It’s “believe women”/“believe all women” all over again. People just choosing to hear what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:25 PM
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I get that, but it’s still his responsibility to understand what he’s doing and stop doing that for his own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:18 PM
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Whether what you’re saying is true or not, it doesn’t matter if we can’t get past my original point, which is that the internet will fuck with your brain if you don’t understand how it does that. Why am I hammering this point so much? Because once you understand that, you can get to the answers you actually want: read library books from trusted and studied sources, have face-to-face conversations with people you know and trust, and then retreat to the fact that all the gender discourse on TikTok…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:17 PM
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I’m not “victim blaming,” just stating vital information he needs to know if he wants to have a less tainted view of the world. It benefits nobody to let people stay harmed by their own internet illiteracy. I’m not even saying it’s his fault that he’s internet illiterate, just that he should be less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:57 PM
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Isn’t a comment section that’s full of the same generic replies of affirmation a sign of bot activity? Also, it’s a well-established fact that anyone talking about “feminine energy” and “masculine energy” is speaking from within their rectal cavity. If your friend’s wife believes in that then I’m sorry to say your friend married a dumbass and has bigger problems than what she sees on TikTok. I swear, internet illiteracy will doom more people than any actual personality flaws or relationship conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:38 PM
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Is it really women’s brains who have been fried by these silly little social media memes or is it the person so put off by women giggling to each other that he’s ceased being able to tell the difference between a silly little social media meme and a legitimate ubiquitous brainwashing movement worth paying attention to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:18 PM
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Yeah, young women have always known how to cut guys down verbally but I, anonymous redditor #7462648, showed them how to do it on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:31 PM
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This new breed of girl trolls is gonna have chronically online young men in irrevocable shambles before you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:14 PM
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Obviously, but the OP is making the point that men's preferences are now considered more shameful By women. If you don’t want to hear what women think, stick to hanging out with your bros. and it's frowned upon to express those preferences outside of particular male-specific spaces. Well…yeah. There’s a lot of stuff whose appropriateness is context-dependent. Is it also a mystery why passing out bibles might not go over well in a pro-choice rally? In environments that are more gender-neutral, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:22 PM
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Are you really getting this, though? Go ask some of the short, fat, bald, socially stunted men here how they feel about being on the bottom of hot women’s (with their healthy child-bearing hip-to-waist ratio and youthful looks) sexual totem pole? I bet the response will hardly be measured and objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:36 PM
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I always saw what OP was getting at. My point is that it’s exceedingly stupid and naive to be offended that someone might be more critical of the preferences of the sex they’re trying to attract than those of their own. Does it offend you that as a man I’m confident in my preference for skinny girls with large natural breasts but am disheartened by the fact that women don’t seem to like shorter guys? No, because we’re not trying to fuck men so why should we care what our sex thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:18 PM

Redditor “Ri_Ri69.” The true voice of a generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:12 PM
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So what you’re getting at is that women (most of whom are heterosexual) have more of a stake in being critical of the preferences of the sex they want to attract while also having a stake in protecting their own preferences. Gee, what a curious mystery as to why that might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:09 PM
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Byyyyyyyy…? I’m not saying it’s never used negatively. I’m saying to move past the persecution complex center of the brain to access your critical thinking cortex. Getting bent out of shape because some people find the male gaze distasteful (for whatever reason) is pointless—especially when you consider that there are plenty of people who find the female gaze loathsome (see: this very sub). The sexual hangups of strangers is less than important, especially when the people who use those terms are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:57 AM
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By whom? Enough of the passive language. Who considers men’s preferences evil? Who consider women’s preference “morality”? Are they the same people? Are they different people? Are these views held with enough of a consensus for it to be worth a shit or is there too much of a divide to declare anything the prevailing point of view? If you’re going through the trouble of whining about this at least put a name to it for us to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:07 AM
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The onus is on the poster to project their true personality via text. You could be the kindest, most reasonable man in the world. But if you hop online and say that hypergamous bitches need to have their freedoms rolled back because they like tall men…well…there’s a lot of someone’s personality there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:52 PM
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Personality doesn’t get your foot in the door though. Even if you think asshole personality traits are an aphrodisiac, it doesn’t amount to anything if she doesn’t find you attractive in the first place. You’re just a surly ugly obstacle to her day at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:26 PM
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Perhaps. But redditors are only calling a spade a spade as we see it. If you think we’re mistaking your true personality come to us with your true personality or don’t come to us at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:24 PM
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Maybe you project something different in real life than you do online. All the online world has to go on is the words you use. And anyone who has been in online relationship spaces are well aware of the language and attitudes people project online that screams “asshole.” This is a good argument for why you should only come to people who know you personally with your dating struggles. Real life friends and associates will give you more grace than the online world who will see just another incel g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:20 PM
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An ugly regular guy still stands a better chance than an ugly asshole. Fix what you can. Sad boys have been giving the same complaint since time immemorial and we cannot simplify this any more. ETA: All these guys also act like they’re feeding the poor and volunteering at animal shelters when strangers pop up around the corner to call them assholes for no reason. If you find that people are consistently telling you to fix your attitude, you definitely have an attitude problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:51 PM
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Safe to say that anyone who chooses not to have children doesn’t care at all about “future generations”—probably because they know we’ll all be too dead to care. But you’re also assuming that social ideology is hereditary. Anyone who believes in [whatever you believe feminism to be because I don’t want to get mired into the finer points of it right now] will believe it, whether their parents did or whether they have children themselves. You’re dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:03 PM
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God bless the people trying to argue this. Personally, I think misunderstanding something as basic as “Even women who have rape fantasies don’t actually want to be fucking raped!” should put you in the cannot-be-helped-and-is-better-off-ignored pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:00 PM
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Those stupid broads and their liking to have memories of happy times…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:24 PM
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The existence of misogyny is not an excuse to label every single instance of criticism of women as a group misogyny immediately. Which examples that I’ve mentioned aren’t misogyny? Misogyny being a problem and women having unhealthy standards at dating regardless of that are not mutually exclusive. They’re also very much not related. Struggling with women isn’t an excuse for being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:54 AM
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I’m sorry, are you saying that the misogynist is the victim here? And it’s not a stereotype of an ugly bad man, it’s a very accurate summation of a lot of bad men’s opinions here—whether they’re ugly or not is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:48 AM
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Being socially retarded makes you believe in the concept of “the wall” and want to roll back social and economic freedoms for women while celebrating DV because they “picked Chad” and read kink porn? Damn. I didn’t realize being socially retarded was such a bad hand to be dealt. But yeah, all that still makes them bad people as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:22 PM
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The misogyny doesn’t help. It’s called “having redeeming qualities.” You immediately forfeit any chance you had of overcoming an attractiveness deficit by failing to reach the ground-level bar of not having a garbage personality as well. You’ve given yourself a double-whammy. But don’t get me wrong: I invite any incel who is also a misogynist at heart to live their truth. Nobody has to be decent. Just understand that all the criticism is about the garbage personality, not the lack of sex. If it …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:03 PM
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It's just that every time they are accused of being sexual and romantic losers because they are misogynists. That is why they are single, because people can "smell" how evil incels are I’m saying that you’re getting the cause and effect wrong. They’re accused of being misogynists because they’re misogynists. You don’t need to “smell” anything when there are words all around us advocating to stop treating women equally, to celebrate their abuse, to assume they want to be assaulted because of smut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:45 PM
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“Unsuccessful men are automatically classified as misogynists” is one of the biggest lies incels tell themselves. They think people are using some kind of superhuman psychic abilities to determine their true personalities when nope, we just read the words they say. It’s literally all in the words. And in lieu of doing any more unnecessary legwork, I’ll just invite anyone who disagrees to scroll through a sampling of headlines from this very sub. And those are just the ones that survive the moddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:36 AM

It’s an online gender war. It’s cyclical with both “sides” taking turns feeling aggrieved and vindicated. As a matter of fact, there are online spaces where people think misogyny has the upper hand. That’s right, there are people out there who have the same concerns you do word-for-word with the genders flipped. You don’t believe it because you don’t get that content, but someone out there is in the same chokehold you’re in from the same social media algorithms. So to answer your question: no, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:09 PM

There’s a lot of content and information on the internet—there’s all the content and information on the internet. It’s impossible to attempt to pay attention to it all without coming out scarred, despondent and angry. I know it’s not satisfying to hear but the tried and tested advice remains undefeated: just don’t look. The fact is you’re participating in a battle royal that is much smaller and much less consequential than you think. The people on the train to work, taking their kids to school, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:54 PM

Social media algorithms present a self-propelled snowball of shit. Celebrities become famous in part because hot take culture rewards controversy over reasonable moderation. And—and this one is just my opinion—women have surpassed men in terms of ragebait trolling. I’m not saying all this to deny your experiences. There are definitely misandrists in the world. I would just ask that you consider that there are more misandrists in your world than in the world. By the looks of things, you’re feedin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:35 PM
8

If they wouldn’t date a 3 why are they constantly crying about not being able to even land a 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:55 PM
1

Not even in the wildest PPD i-make-too-much-out-of-AWDTSG-drama fever dream can observable reality reflect that level of mate sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:54 PM
2

Show your work. The post I’m replying to implies that average men have some kind of inherent capacity for loyalty or commitment that above average men either lack or can’t match, otherwise he wouldn’t mention loyalty and commitment in relation to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:52 PM
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That either a solid portion of that 80% are getting women to choke on their own bile and date them anyway or that women can’t agree on the same 80% of men who are supposedly ugly or—my guess—80% of men aren’t ugly and overly sensitive online boys are catastrophizing their misread of dubious data.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:49 PM
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Most women are at least beautiful enough that men will NSA have sex with them. Past that, well OP’s premise is that the average man would looooooooove to lock down one of those ugly chicks. As a matter of fact, your own post show a resentment that ugly women aren’t choosing ugly men. So it sounds like men are placing more value on those “ugly” women than you let on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:44 PM
4

Being ugly or average looking doesn’t make you impervious to cheating. This is Mid Men Are Wonderful Effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:37 PM
1

A bad boy wouldn’t worry about this at all. You’re asking the question of an obvious poser, who’s below both bad boys and nice guys on the totem pole of sexiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:05 PM
1

Unfortunately most men who struggle with dating are on the spectrum so they need more clear direct communication. Rule 1 and 2 should be the general dating advice. Well unfortunately the world of discourse surrounding mainstream dating and social lives can’t take the time to check to make sure we’re including men on the spectrum. There are just certain things that neurotypical people understand and I promise you we’re not conspiring against you if we have conversations with that shared unspoken …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:47 PM
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Yeah, we mean girls become less “shallow” insofar as they’ll stop making all their dating decisions based purely on childish stuff. That they’ll be a little more pragmatic (level based on the individual woman), not that they’ll eliminate attractiveness altogether. Nobody ever said that girls will go from liking attractive boys to liking bridge trolls. Unless you think that being attracted to physically attractive people just wears off—which you shouldn’t believe since you yourself probably still…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:17 PM
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Reiterating a point I previously made: if something is obvious to a middle schooler then adults typically don’t feel the need to overstate it to other adults. It’s not a “denial,” it’s trying to elevate the conversation to be useful to someone who’s already graduated primary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:08 PM
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1: Both things can be true. 2: Past the age of, I dunno, 8, most people know that some level of visual attraction is necessary to be…attracted to someone. We just rarely mention it for the same reason we don’t feel the need to explain the rules to our favorite board game to people by saying, “Start by unwrapping and opening the box.” 3: Are you blind? Do you not feel more attraction toward women you find hot? Why wouldn’t women experience the same? 4: It’s not a narrative shift, it’s people slow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:49 PM
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It wasn’t a lie, it was a foundational tool to keep inexperienced highly emotional children from crashing out because their first little crush went to the dance with another boy. Over time (i.e. that personal development I mentioned us erroneously taking for granted) you’re supposed to balance that framework with the lessons you learn from being out in the real world where people are less likely to coddle you. But too many men here seemed to think that elementary school-level fairy tale morals w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:52 PM
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“We” did a pretty bad job listening to what was being told to us and are now blaming our laziness on others. First off, no serious person in history has ever thought that “sitting tight and watching the magic happen” would get them anything, let alone a relationship. You guys just mistook “chill out”—a thing you need to be told on a daily basis—for “never do anything ever.” I will give your argument credit for one thing, though: people do like to assume that problems will become manageable once …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:43 PM
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There’s a wide gulf between unattractive bore and abusive criminal. And unsurprisingly that gulf is populated by normal men getting normal women by being…absolutely normal. This “Girls only like bad boys” shit usually becomes played out by 7th grade. That (presumably) grown men still think that the bar for attractiveness is only met by violent criminal behavior is embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:35 PM
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No, I just perform to the agreed to roles and expectations of the job according to my unique experience and skillset in exchange for pay. It’s mutually beneficial—no submission required. If my manager asks me to do something outside of my role or competencies, I’d be well justified in saying no (and my manager would face questions regarding inefficient delegation). If my employer stops paying me or if I find a better paying opportunity elsewhere, I’d be well justified in peacing out immediately.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:20 AM
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Women have privately told me (so it’s not like they’re virtue signaling or trying to make female friends) about celebrities they think are attractive but me and my male gazey friends don’t think much about at all. Like Zendaya ain’t ugly by any stretch of the imagination but holy shit do straight women think she’s a goddess! That’s how I started to understand what they mean when they say they put on makeup or wear certain clothes for other women. My girl will point out a woman she thinks is hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:14 PM
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Look at manosphere media. Red pill types love the idea of submission. The can’t stop looking for men with bigger muscles, deeper voices, and more aggressive rhetoric to submit to. Some will even pay $18,000 and a weekend of their lives for the privilege. All that submitting makes them occasionally want to be on the other side from time to time. That’s why they’re so dismayed when women and normal dudes treat them like weirdos for trying to bring that psychology into the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:05 PM
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Only someone with no employment experience or deep-seated inferiority issues would think of work as “submitting to a boss.” What even is this question?! -100000/10 equivalence effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:28 PM
2

Small tweaks make big peaks. If it’s just 5% better odds that you’re looking for then something basic and cliched like hygiene or confidence could tip the scales that slightly. But time and time again men come here angry and flat-out indignant at internet strangers because they aren’t offering an iron clad guarantee or because a completely different man can attract way more woman than them. They don’t want a little extra help, they want a buffet to choose from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:42 PM
1

I suppose so. Maybe not inherently but if you’re an aware human being who sees your “competition” hobble themselves then it’s hard not to be more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:29 AM
1

The advantage isn’t not believing in RP but in being above all that pill stuff and having all the guys who have fallen for it self-select out of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:47 PM
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People on a large scale aren’t capable of that strategic of thinking. But those of us who don’t need that bullshit are well aware of the advantage it gives us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:48 PM
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Most men aren’t depressed shut-ins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:09 PM
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Don’t expend too much effort trying to budge maladaptive people who are either actively hostile toward others or don’t want to budge. Mentally ill, struggling, sure. Do what you can to bring them along. But surely you don’t suggest wasting your life on those whose only response to help is “no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:04 AM
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Oh I very much disagree with that. 17 is such a poorly “formed” age that people don’t even recognize that version of themselves just 5 years later. They’re just big children with bigger hormones and licenses to drive. The only people to whom a 17 year old’s personality is relevant are other 17 year olds. It’s the age where choices are guided almost purely by instinct and desire, before responsibilities, careers, or money enter the picture. A.K.A. The things that shape and solidify your actual pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:06 PM
2

It’s a good reminder that a lot of people’s problems here can be solved by 10 more years of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:44 PM
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WTF do they have to be 17?! Did PPD turn into a teen chat sub without me noticing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:26 PM
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Yeah and I’m 9’5”. Do you really think that women’s preference for men taller than them can be categorized as a “feminist” issue in any way? Can you say with a straight face that keeping the short king down cracks even the top 100 of things that keep feminists up at night? Or is it just an unfortunate reality of sexual dimorphism and, save for those women who are rude about it, if of on sociopolitical consequence at all? Words have meaning. Not everything women do that pisses you off is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:20 PM
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You can always tell what an OP’s real gripe is when some random item is thrown into an otherwise organized list. Yeah, sure, feminism is all about heightism. That’s all they talk about: male height. Those women’s studies classes have entire midterms about height. You can’t go five seconds into a feminist discussion group without hearing about their love of tall man cock. Next time save yourself some trouble and just throw another “I got rejected and think it’s because of my height” post onto the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:17 PM

To decide whether to agree with you or not at least give us a sense of how you define “empathy” and what it would look like from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:47 PM
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I would like to think there’s a difference between multiple women deciding not to have you inside them (something that, while frustrating, makes sense) and incel after incel refusing to listen to free advice even as they cry for it—which is not as frustrating as much as it is…WTF?! But hey, if you think shutting up and listening for five minutes is as violating as the prospect of having sex with someone you’d rather not, then fine. Ignore the whole world if you want. I’m just killing time on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:08 PM
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Is it primarily done by old people and those with terminal illnesses? If so then that tracks because people get it. If there’s going to be an influx of people seeking euthanasia for chronic sexlessness then you’re going to get more people standing up and noticing. Until they realize what we here already know about incel psychology and they also get too exhausted to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:01 PM
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You can target a show toward multiple demographics. Fathers are men too, after all. And even if the show is about the incel problem it doesn’t mean incels were the target audience. Network police procedural aren’t targeted to murderers and other criminals, they’re targeted to people who are interested in those stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:38 PM
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For years I’ve seen what happens when incels are presented with a variety of solutions and resources for their problems. At this point if they think I’m also part of “the problem” then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:27 PM
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Of course people will care about en-masse opt-in euthanasia. At least at first. But if incels continue to do the incel thing and loudly refuse any type of help or support (outside of government mandated sex, of course), then the empathy will quickly erode away as we all have too much shit going on in our own lives to help those who don’t want to be helped. That’s kinda like the success arc of “Adolescence” as a TV show. Non-incels liked it and thought it could start a dialogue. Incels screeched …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:55 AM
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You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to listen. And I’m sure the producers of the show, if they did any research at all, knew ahead of time that a story directly targeting a problem with the most stubborn and obstinate cohort in modern history had a very low likelihood of “reaching” them. Still, you might as well put it out there and get your credit from those who do listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:43 AM
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You got all that from the simple idea that men should lift each other up? This is why she encouraged healthy men to leave the incels behind—and why a lot of them are going to do just that. Nobody wants to waste an iota of effort lifting someone who’s shown they don’t want to be lifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:40 PM
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The practical reality of living the rest of your life as a woman—or at least needing to explain to anyone who would see why your legal documents have you listed as one when you clearly don’t identify as one. Even if it’s a minor inconvenience and even if you can let it slide by the government indefinitely, I’d rather just work. It’s not like they’re going to put me in the salt mines in my 60s. And if I can’t independently afford early retirement anyway it’s not I’m going to lead a super comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:36 PM
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He wasn’t “tearing his fellow man down,” he was telling the truth: if we want to lift each other up we can’t expect women to do the lifting. Interpreting very innocuous advice as an attack is a good way to keep your wheels spinning in the mud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:47 PM
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Did he not just say “We men should lift each other up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:38 PM
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I don’t agree with most pop culture interpretations of “natural selection.” Evopsych is one of the worst examples of an otherwise useful concept that the internet has perverted all meaning out of. That being said, and considering the broader context of the bit, she ain’t wrong. Not that evolution gives a damn whether a girl dates you or not, but that if you are chronically unable to get a date and are maladaptive about it (instead of focusing on self improvement, stewing in deeper resentment) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:35 PM
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Even if it’s just filling out a form, the practical reality feels like WAY more trouble than it’s worth. This sounds like a stupidass law so I might as well work the extra five years to stay away from the stupid. I don’t ever see myself as the type to just stop working anyway (that’s how the mind goes) so it makes no difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:54 PM
0

I didn’t say “tell everyone you’re perfect” but you’re also not going to kick yourself and introduce yourself by your flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:30 PM
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Who would want to present themselves as imperfect? The world is full of people who can’t wait to point out your flaws, no need to give a head start. Think about what you’re saying for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:05 PM
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Most people don’t talk about “struggling” guys. Hell, most people don’t care about “struggling” guys. Many of them knew what it was like to “struggle” at times. People criticize guys who blame their antisocial behavior on lack of sex and use misogyny as a coping mechanism. Because they deserve criticism. There are way too many people out there worthy of sympathy to shed a tear for assholes. Do we also need to feel bad for the way people talk about abusers? Bullies? Terrorists? It’s the behavior,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:30 PM
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Technology advances far faster than humans do. I’m sticking with my kind: people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:16 PM

I’m not saying that production would cheat for them or make their lives any better than what’s being presented. But as someone whose guilty pleasure has been “Big Brother” since season 1, I know how easy it is to spin a completely different narrative for an hourlong edited TV episode than the 24/7 facts that really play out. Either way, all of these shows are for entertainment purposes only, starting with the casting. Forget learning about men and women, chances are you’re not even getting the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:24 PM

Is it a documentary? Does it present an abundance of facts? Does it proclaim to scientifically back or prove anything? No? Then nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:29 PM
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Almost guaranteed she said this in a joking manner or with critical context missing (like if she’s under the weather).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:26 PM
13

It’s time for another edition of the internet’s favorite game: “Is All This Just About Paying for the First Date or Cleaning Up After Yourself?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:57 AM
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You’re describing mental health services, which are also in abundance and famously advocated for by most every group and demographic—except one. And you may be shocked to learn what group that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:12 AM
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The language matters, though. Even if we have a “not my problem” mentality you can still get people to contribute a few bucks or a pack of socks to an organization that distributes them to those in actual need. And even if we don’t contribute we can still identify food, shelter and clothing as actual needs. If one can’t even bother articulating the hypothetical necessity for an organization that distributes free sex to lonely men then they’ve kinda shown their hand: they don’t believe sex is a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:00 AM
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If a “need” can only be fulfilled by putting your penis in another human then the universe is more twisted and sick than we thought or what I’m more inclined to believe: it’s not a fucking need. Masturbation exists. Try it some time! But for those of you in the “need” camp, I always want to know: what should be done for those who can’t fulfill this need in a timely manner? We have government organizations (such as they are) and charities designed to deliver food, shelter, water, and even money t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:45 PM
3

Do you have a law degree? Wanna press charges? You’re not going to bully a private company to validate manosphere rage. Isn’t 4chan good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:27 PM
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Are men also not part of society? And in terms of heterosexual dating, can’t men influence the behavior of bad women by not dating them? Get your brothers to turn away heightists en masse. It’s not “society’s” fault that horniness lets bad female actors get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:07 PM
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Not if platforms like Youtube censor men for it. IF they can pick and choose, then they're not longer a platform but a publisher, which would make them responsible for anything illegal uploaded, and the CEO of youtube should serve the minimum sentence, even if they delete the video after, they still committed the crime, being publishers. What are you talking about?! You have a right to speak your mind, but not to use someone else’s airwaves or platforms to do it. If YouTube doesn’t want to hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:02 PM
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I agree! There’s no “muh reverse genders” gotcha to be had. Women are capable of poor social skills too. But how many of them know how to use euphemisms as oppose to men who love their “frank language”? More importantly: how many men would still entertain a woman they like even if she’s crass in stating her preferences compared to the opposite? Attention rewards behavior, whether it’s good or bad behavior. Want more sensitive women? Stop validating insensitive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:44 PM
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The individual. It sounds unfair but life’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:17 PM
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Because it’s always those who champion “frank speech” who are the first to come crying to the internet when a girl posts a TikTok frankly criticizing short or ugly guys hitting on her. “Frank speech” is all the rage until someone curtly and artlessly informs you of your deficiencies. But to be clear: there’s no “policing.” You can still say whatever you want however you want. But there’s also no “reaction policing,” so if you get iced out of social groups or dating opportunities because of lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:17 PM
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Well “I only like young women with no experience” is a pretty asinine thing to say, isn’t it? Even literal pedophiles know how to dress it up so as to go undetected. If you don’t know how to get what you want without looking like a creep, that’s a skill issue. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:02 PM
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Okay. Most sexual preferences aren’t based on behavior. I’m talking about one’s behavior when stating their sexual preferences. If you how to state your preference for a tall man or a skinny chick without looking like you take delight in putting down those who don’t interest you, you’ll be fine. It requires nuance—which I keep discovering eludes more people than I thought—but it’s possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:48 PM
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Anyone can have whatever preference they want. They can even state them if they want. But language matters. “Promiscuous” sounds better than “ran through.” Preferring “active types” is better than “no fat chicks.” It’s not the preference, it’s the behavior. You’ll find that if you know how not to be an ass about it, you can filter to your heart’s content.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:31 PM
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The unfounded fear is being shut down or being laughed at or having a roving mob of feminists get you arrested for speaking up or whatever of the many excuses thrown around. A closed mouth doesn’t get fed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:59 PM
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Bull. Men who advocate for their issues in a serious normal manner are taken seriously—or at least ignored if they’re trying to appeal to total strangers. Problem is a lot of men (online at least) don’t advocate for themselves out of unfounded fear or only do it to shut down or interrupt women advocating for themselves, as your OP is perfectly demonstrating. Do you expect everyone trying to tell a personal story to shoehorn you into their story as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:50 PM
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Then advocate for yourself. Do you expect every woman who talks about their own experiences not leaving their drink unattended or avoiding secluded paths home at night to state out of nowhere, “Oh, but men have it bad too, just to be clear”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:41 PM

I swear I came into this thread judging just from the headline that the premise is that 20s is too young to define love. But OP is suggesting 20s is old?! As always, an OP is mistaking women not actually being interested in spending time with them for them fundamentally being incapable of love. I promise you that those geriatric 25 year olds can still appreciate quiet moments and small free gestures when they come from the right person. Emphasis on “the right person.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:51 PM
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If you listen to enough terrestrial (AM/FM) radio in America—the kind that still air commercials—you find that divorce and family law attorneys are MASTERS at riling up outrage from their primarily male demographic. Great way to generate business, terrible for the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:00 PM
5

You think that I…prioritize our kids too much????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:30 PM
8

Doesn’t sound very unconditional though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:59 PM
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offer void in instances of gaining weight, losing sex drive, prioritizing kids too much, or being in proximity to a younger, hotter, interested woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:15 PM
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People give special treatment to those they’re attracted to? The hell you say! Any insights on the color of the sky or the wetness of water too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:22 PM
1

I get it, I just don’t think there’s much you can do to keep people from reacting how they want to react to a natural and necessary part of the dating process. I go to casinos fairly regularly. I always follow the responsible gambling rules (don’t bring what you’re not willing to lose, never chase your losses, etc.). It’s damn near impossible to be a gambler and not get bombarded with math, help lines, resources for self-exclusion, you name it. And yet the casino every day is full of people bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:32 PM
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You know what, at this point fine. Whatever. Give every user a couple of pointless pop-ups to tap through before getting to the app if it’ll help the minority of people who don’t know how to properly use it. But at a certain point we have to acknowledge the fact that the apps aren’t the problem. You can regulate them into oblivion and women still aren’t going to date men they aren’t attracted to. You need to regulate others’ consent, which is a whole new ballpark of dystopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:28 PM
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If you want to do analogies, let’s follow through with this. Some people want to help by giving poor people financial aid and free resources for life-saving essentials—including healthcare. What equivalent should those people want to give men who struggle with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:19 PM
1

The many many excuses used to avoid speaking your truth in real life where there are consequences have never passed muster with me. You say you hold these beliefs so closely that you’ll spill gallons of Internet ink over it on a daily basis, but consistently clam up where people might laugh in your face, disprove you in real time, or be a little more forceful in their reply than a simple message board comment? Nah, it’s the same reason why KKK members wear hoods and neonazis speak in plausible d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:10 PM
3

We are at a point in society where any advice involving testosterone should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Way too many headline-skimming dimwits misunderstanding what it is. Take any issues you think you have up with your doctor and your doctor ONLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:39 PM
1

I don't know are you aware with the current situation in online dating. But most men get maybe a handful likes a month in Tinder. Most of these women just remove you if you match. So it is completely hopeless. Because. The vast. Majority. Of dating app users. Are. Men. It’s the biggest sausage fest on the internet and everyone knows it. If you’re frustrated by it the solution isn’t to ban it, it’s to remove yourself from a statistically disadvantageous situation. Iam not talking torugh my own de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:17 PM
1

The problem is that women think that their equivalent is something they have to "tolerate" is just bonkers. Then the root reason for this thing is that women dont know what they eaven can realistically get or deserve. It’s no more bonkers than someone trying to tell a stranger what their dating “equivalent” is. Lemme guess: every woman you like is your “equivalent” but they’re just too stuck up to see it. And the chicks you find ugly and undateable just so happen to be below your “equivalent,” r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:49 PM
2

This is such an unrealistic read on things, absolutely dripping with blackpill doomerism. Let’s not be naive. Dating apps also sell men on the idea of “hot single ladies” being a swipe away. It only takes 30 seconds for them to see that’s not the case. Do you think women also aren’t aware of the reality of dating apps? Do you think they’re stupid? That’s why there’s such a gender imbalance in terms of users. That and the fact that women don’t need dating apps to have anonymous dick thrown at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:26 PM
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I understand that regular guys struggle at dating—most everyone struggles at dating. Regular guys either get through it eventually or at least don’t go thinking that banning dating apps will make things better for them. The “Upend-Society-So-I-Can-Get-My-Dick-Wet” Club isn’t where you find regular guys and, as a regular guy, we don’t want to be associated with them. Don’t lump the struggles together just to boost the numbers for the truly undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:56 PM
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If you’re married then you probably weren’t even close to the level of failure that this minority (and I cannot emphasize it enough how small this number is compared to the general population) of men who want to nuke a perfectly valid way for many couples to get together present. Now if you want to align with them regardless, that’s your choice. But I’m betting that if you ever really got to know them you’d feel more comfortable assigning some responsibility to them for the position they’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:50 PM
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Men who meet dating standards don’t call for dating apps to be banned. But if you want me to speculate—understanding that I’m not speaking for women, just relaying the things I hear from women—there’s a general lack of conversational skills, visible interest in the woman in front of them (i.e. asking about her), low-effort messages, low empathy, and so forth and so on. And then basic incompatibility in terms of hobbies, interests and politics. And yes, lack of flattering picture-taking in a medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:33 PM
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Whichever ones are causing them to be rejected at such a high clip that they’re openly considering banning dating apps as a way to tilt things in their favor. For specifics, ask the women they’re trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:14 PM
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Unless you also ban women from getting jobs, buying their own homes, using birth control, adopting pets, making friends, and moving about the world without a chaperone, you’re not going to get women to settle en mass for men they don’t want just from banning dating apps. And hopefully at some point during this banning process, these sad men realize how sad all of this is and resolve to meet 2025 social standards instead of fucking things up for everyone. But given their track record for at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:27 PM
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The extent to which “blue pill” has a singular position (and I’ll have to keep saying it doesn’t until I am, ironically, blue in the face) it points to outside and real life. The reality of the situation remains undefeated. Are all us average-ass couples conspiring to mess with red pillers? Do you all just walk around staring down at the ground when you run errands? Have you all papered over the windows of your houses with poorly read case studies and message board threads??? By the way, I’m awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:34 PM
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Forget the setting and outfits. This is a poll and a meme for chronically online dudes. That demographic has always responded more to “cute quirky” than conventional attractiveness. And that’s before you even get to the whole Asian fixation of it all. Sampling bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:08 PM
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It’s a text-based zoo of the exact kind of people with the exact kind of thoughts you never hope to meet in real life. Morbid curiosity is fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:06 PM
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No offense, but this entire reply is exactly why so-called normies are so exasperated by red pill zealots. You mistakenly think we don’t really care about men turning into douchebags because of…whatever conspiracy you’re going on about. It’s much simpler than that. We don’t like self-improvement methods that create douchebags because we all have to exist in a society and society is much worse the more douchebags there are. If all the red-pillers achieved their self-improvement and just seethed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:07 PM
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Bruh, if the status quo was so great, online spaces like PPD or any of the dating subforums anywhere else on the Internet would not exist. Why would such online forums be needed if dating was easy peasy for everyone participating in it? Why would dating coaches need to exist? Why would seduction or 'improving game' need to exist? Why would there be a need for authors to write books about dating, relationships, male and female psychology? It'd be redundant. It's easy peasy like you make it seem. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:40 PM
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The only things I’ve ever seen red pillers admit to being part of their philosophy are also things everyone knows: get in shape, improve yourself, don’t live for women. Well no shit! You don’t get credit for stating the obvious just because you attach a dorky little label to it. And that’s IF the red piller cops to even that. Most of the time it’s like trying to hit a moving target where everything that’s considered helpful is chalked up to the red pill and everything that’s considered bad is ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:47 AM
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So TRP is a strategy that doesn’t hold its subscribers accountable for following. It preaches actions that are neither unique nor even all that novel. It’s to achieve a vague outcome that you’re not willing to specify. And if the majority of its adherents wind up being assholes in its name, it takes no responsibility because it won’t even adopt the most basic of moral codes. So what exactly is “the red pill” supposed to be beside three meaningless words the internet’s biggest losers use to feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:05 PM
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Why, then, does it seem like the lion’s share of accountability and calling out of red pillers’ TRP-branded antisocial behavior come from non-red pillers (or blue pillers, if you must)? If all that other stuff isn’t part of the “strategy” then a lot of the flock is straying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:46 PM
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Believing that the world is conspiring to lie to you and that you alone (or a small handful of confident-sounding randos) know The Real Truth is how cults are formed. And you can tell that TRP is manipulative bullshit because self-responsibility and self-improvement are tried and tested practices dating back to the beginning of time. But a bunch of chronically online nerds get to claim ownership of it because it got repackaged into something that sounds cool? Please. I attack the label because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:27 PM
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Seeing as the entire concept of “pills” came from a 25+ year old movie with only a red and blue pill, there’s no need to acknowledge a “black” pill. That’s just a subset of the internet doing what subsets of the internet do: hijack an established concept, not even think about the meaning or origin of it, and then create a bastardized spin off to feel included. That mentality is why “red” and “blue” pills essentially mean nothing anymore—not just here but everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:06 PM
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This is a perfect example of how the pillosphere has lost the plot. Used to be that even red pillers would acknowledge that “blue pill” is basically anything that isn’t red pill and, as such, has no singular “ideology.” Now anyone with an ax to grind just ascribes to it whatever strawman is sticking in their individual little snowflake craw for the day, as if the 99% of people who have no use for red pill can agree on a singular worldview. Just say that that you’re mad average people can attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:35 PM
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You never know whats really going on behind close doors. That sentiment goes both ways, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:18 PM
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I would love to know what, besides “common sense,” you’re using to draw this conclusion. I’m not asking for studies or anything like that, but it sounds like you’re acting like a lightning rod for people with gripes. Remember: people with decent family lives don’t feel the need to shout it from the rooftops like miserable people at the stepparent subreddit, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:10 PM
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People here just hate the idea of others being able to find contentment, I swear. I've yet to meet a stepparent who is actually happy with the role unless it's some case where the kids are grown adults and fully independent. And even then in some cases the dynamic is bad. I sincerely doubt you’ve had any kind of meaningful or productive conversation with anyone outside of subreddits designed from drama and complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:14 PM
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Maybe rearranging those words will make them make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:09 PM
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You don’t need consent to talk to someone. You don’t need consent to say the very first word. Everything after that is up to the other person. If you don’t want people to talk to you that’s YOUR problem to deal with, no one else’s And most people deal with that problem by walking away, which apparently gets a lot of other people very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:41 PM
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You’re mad that someone who doesn’t like unsolicited approaches prefers to party in places where she can solicit approaches on her own terms? annoyance that they can’t control the environment A.K.A. Being a grown-up and choosing how you spend your time and who you associate with. It’s gotta be pretty miserable to be the type of person who is angered by others leading harmless lives of self-determination. Fortunately the world is gonna keep spinning…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:38 PM
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If it’s sex and artificial validation you want (ask any woman, getting used as a walking fleshlight isn’t “validating”), sex workers exist. Crack open that wallet, move to a red light district, and enjoy all of the unattached meaningless cumming you think these single women living easy mode are getting. There are ways of getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:36 PM
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And what is it that women have been saying for a while now to explain their pickiness? “Rather be alone than in a bad relationship.” Maybe take a page from their book.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:07 PM
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I’m not making the claim that every woman is amazing. I think that goes without saying. Have you met this subreddit??? To the point that it takes one woman, I think falling to the extreme is a cop out. Same question. This sub is full of people who love a good cop out. It beats seeing the world in nuances. The first girl I ever dated seriously in my life that spanned from teen adolescence to early adulthood was the worst. That ends and you meet others and realize that not every single one is goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:57 PM
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That’s all well and good, but don’t expect this from every woman. Because above all else, women are people. And time and time again on this group, it just takes one woman proving that she’s a person to send many a man into a spiral straight to the opposite extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:36 PM
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It’s like when the Astros got caught stealing signs in 2017. Baseball players have been stealing signs since the beginning of baseball, but using real-time electronic surveillance and relay was a bridge too far. Also, given what we know about their lax data security I wouldn’t say they had the most responsible governance with regard to doxxing and keeping discussions above board. A safe, responsible crowdsourced solution for safety and abuse-prevention would be nice, but Tea wasn’t it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:29 AM
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Healthy masculinity: video games, beer, lumberjack in the woods, pumping iron in the gym, being on the grindset, driving a Bugatti, walking into the room and everyone knowing that you are THAT dude. Yeah but what about all the men over 25 who think that Andrew Tate shit is cringy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:16 PM
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In fairness, it’s only the chronically online world of Reddit and comment sections that overcomplicate things. The terminology may change from generation to generation, but most regular people date the same way they’ve always dated: off vibes and within the social constraints put upon them. Ironically enough, it’s that simplified dating pattern that makes people on the fringes frustrated enough to try to explain things through over complication.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:09 PM

I’m being very careful to avoid doing the second thing. But every time I make the controversial statement of “rapists are bad,” these guys can’t help but respond with some flavor of “How dare you call me a rapist!” I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re just breathtakingly stupid, but a hit dog does holler.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:26 PM

Of course not, Captain Whataboutism. I mean, it’s pretty out there to lump terfs and actual criminals in the same group but nuance and good faith don’t seem to be your style.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 05:06 AM

A far cry from “sure bro whatever,” though. Seems a little, dare I say, emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:51 AM

These discussions are always so funny. You tell men that they have to be nice to people and they say "sure bro whatever" and that's it. shoot themselves and society at large in the foot by electing malicious authoritarians in the name of “anti-woke”. Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:34 AM

You know, you don’t have to be identified as a rapist or murder—especially if you haven’t raped or murdered. Once you pass that hurdle, all that’s left is not taking up the cause of rapists and murderers by getting offended on their behalf when someone condemns them. Frankly speaking, you’re fumbling that goal really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:37 AM

Is it really that hard for you guys to drop the persecution complex just enough to not identify with rapists and murderers?! FFS, “Violent criminals are bad guys” should not be that controversial of a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:01 AM

Saying that killing, raping, and abusing is bad is pandering “dumb shit.” Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:36 AM

It starts through getting mistreated by women irl and then constant misandry online and then slowly these men start getting radicalized and then they join more extreme echo chambers and then their hate gets stronger and then it reaches a breaking point where they might or might not do some heinous shit out of resentment. All this to say I don’t think the heinous act in question is justified by any means, they should absolutely be punished for it no excuse whatsoever but I’m just saying it’s a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:43 PM

HA! If I thought that my manhood compelled me to take up sides along people like you and OP I would’ve checked out of society to live with the mole people years ago. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:28 PM

I’m just talking about the behaviors and people OP is talking about. This isn’t a team game, you know. You’re free to call out abhorrent behavior (and those who excuse it) and still be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:59 PM

Is it misandry to call men who kill, rape, and abuse while blaming internet comments for it weak-ass punks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:36 PM
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Accepting unacceptable behavior and then blaming it on her magical pussy is the opposite of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:25 PM
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The (sad subset of a) gender (we don’t claim) of accountability strikes again!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:09 PM
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If an attractive woman does something shitty, I (try to)see it as an attractive woman doing something shitty. Same goes for any variation of shitty/good and attractive/unnatractive. The action is it's own thing and the attractiveness of the person doing it is it's own separate thing. Bully for you. But a lot of guys let attractive shitty women get away with murder and walk all over them. Then they snap out of it one day and come to us crying that attractive women treat guys like them worse when …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:07 PM
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There was so much active self-improvement I did in my late 20s that I’ll never know if the dating success in my early 30s was because I turned some magical age or because I finally became attractive in a way I should’ve been in my early to mid 20s. It doesn’t really matter though. There was no “drowning” and the women weren’t “desperate.” I got a normal amount of attention from the normal kind of women for the shape I was in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:21 PM
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When you look at his profile you see there are a lot of subreddits that are better at not tolerating stupid shit than this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:04 PM
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How many body-builder-looking guys actually exist out in the world? And how many guys are currently dating women? There’s your answer. Not to say that being in shape isn’t a benefit. If you’re so fat that it’s the first thing people notice about you, you’re gonna be behind the 8 ball. But people with real-world experience outside of what male fitness culture gurus propagandize aren’t going to expect bulging muscles and ripped six packs from their partner. Lift, work out, eat well, do all that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:51 PM
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Anything involving social engineering, like manipulation through charm, trust, or emotional appeal, tends to affect women more because those tactics often target how women are socially conditioned to respond. Cults, grooming, abuse, trafficking, you name it, women statistically are more vulnerable in all these areas. A pimp is not pimping by force; they usually just sell dreams and promises to manipulate their victims. “You sure about that?” -The entire manosphere Let’s not mistake women being m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:25 PM

Lame social media trend for people who want every detail of their lives to be breaking news for everyone around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:42 PM
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Labels help make someone feel like part of something bigger, even if that something is defined by pathetic traits. They wear the labels as badges of honor, self-identify as the one they believe is right for them, and get tribal about it against other guys who are wearing different—but no less nonsensical—labels. It’s astrology for boys who think they’re too smart and logical for astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:40 PM

Yeah I wanted to watch cartoons 24/7 too when I was a child but consuming hours of animated house pets hitting each other over the head with mallets didn’t really teach me anything useful or make me a smarter person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:50 AM
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There are societies where being a slut is literally against the law, and even in “free” nations “slut shaming” is practically a rite of passage for groups of young sad men. For every OF model and social media thirst trap there’s a guy—or guys—doxxing her, harassing her, siccing the IRS on her, and worse. I’ve even seen women’s taste in literary erotica being used as justification for assault. Let’s not pretend that female sexuality goes without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:08 PM
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You’re actually labeling the fake character in your daily whines “nice guy” now? Beyond parody. Still, because it’s a worthwhile topic, it’s a very simple formula: Don’t make your sexual desire someone else’s problem and they won’t call you a creep. Don’t know how to flirt with a girl without making her prematurely think about your penis? Skill issue. Don’t know how to talk about your love life with friends without making them think about your penis? Skill issue. Don’t know how to be attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:02 PM
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I’ve heard this mentality a few times and it makes me wonder/concerned for the “homebodies” these asocial people are looking for. It’s all well and good for you (not you personally, just people with your perspective), but how do these other people feel about being pursued as a prospective house pet to ultimately be kept shut in from the outside world. Not a very attractive proposition, I don’t care how introverted you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:31 PM
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Did I miss the part where the guy is going to be able to pay for the car and the golddiger lifestyle? Even if the car gets his foot in the door, these girls are going to expect a little something for themselves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:46 PM
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I never did poorly with girls, but all of a sudden the stuck up rich ones who never paid me any mind would find an excuse to talk me. Well you identified it. Why do men on this sub preoccupy themselves with what stuck-up materialistic jerks think? Stumbling into a golddiger can happen (if you posses obvious symbols of wealth), but it’s not the kind of thing you want and definitely not the kind of thing you lament missing out on. Girls get abused but it’s not like they’re trading notes with each …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:28 PM
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Only being attracted to Instagram models is sad work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:15 PM
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In fairness, there’s a big difference between a genuine car guy and a loser who thinks flashing a set of luxury keys is a fast pass to pussy. The former probably has other attractive traits that got him women because he doesn’t feel the need to lead with his cars. The latter continues to struggle until finding the wrong kind of woman who’s only too happy to attach to vacuum to the rest of his bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:13 PM
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So these guys become enamored with status-seeking golddigers, make terrible financial decision to attract them and then the golddiger realizes too late that she’s attached herself to a dope who—unbeknownst to her—is one good solid rear-ending away from a world of financial hurt. I love with stupid people play themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:08 PM
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This feels like astrology for people who think they don’t believe in astrology. A naive young man is gonna see this and think he needs to go into debt for an expensive car just to find a girlfriend. Besides, you’re leaving yourself open to finding a man who is in financial trouble but you can’t tell because his car hasn’t been in an accident yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:03 PM
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I think this sub would dry up if men here realized that status-seeking gold diggers are not the type of woman anyone should be fretting over. And considering the ubiquity of Hondas and the women who are unfazed being seeing in them, whatever minority of status-seeker exists out there is doubly irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:01 PM
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Why do we care about status-seeking gold diggers, though? May that kind of attraction never find me. If you want me to add nuance and say “Women worth a crap don’t care about cars” then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:58 PM
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I think we’re doing a bit of goalpost moving jumping from “what you drive” to “where you live” and “what you eat.” There are so many regular-ass cars out on the road—not to mention all the people across ages and genders whose criteria for car buying is simply “within my budget and won’t break down”—that to think the average person places a value judgement on what some other fool rides is extremely self-conscious and unrealistic. There’s way more consideration given to where you choose to lay you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:56 PM
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I think women know about cars—they’re car buyers too. I’m just not sure how many care to the extent that they make dating choices based on it. They know what a Mazda is, but they’re not going to make a Mr. Yuck face because the guy who asked her out drives one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:34 PM
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Even if I owned a car (which, for reasons I’ve stated multiple times, I don’t), why would I indulge some strange weirdo’s request for a picture when he’s clearly started the doxxing process already? And it’s Skokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:06 PM
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“All these women are gold diggers. Their status-seeking makes me sick!” Also… “I love to hang around women who tasteless fawn over displays of wealth. Their opinion matters to me so much. 😍”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:04 PM
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That’s my point. Have nice stuff if you care about it yourself, not because you think it’ll boost your dating prospects when your dating pool can’t tell an expensive version from a non-expensive version.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:57 PM
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Not all Chicago suburbs are like Ferris Bueller, my guy. And when you live in the city like I do now it makes perfect sense to not even own one unless you need to drive to work or make frequent out of town trips. I’ve dated using Uber and CTA for years and women care fuck all about it because they understand more about where we’re from than you apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:54 PM
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Accusing specific people of downvoting you when you know damn well you can’t tell who downvoted you is odd and defensive. Why would I downvote your reply? And only a gear head whose network consists of other gear heads would consider a Toyota—one of the most popular and ubiquitous car brands out there—a “shit box.” You sound like a less-aware version of me, a photographer who shoots Sony cameras, when I poke fun at Nikon shooters. My jokes sound utterly ridiculous to non camera people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:50 PM
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There’s a difference between caring about a man’s car and caring that he has a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:45 PM
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But to my point, is there a significant difference between a Honda and an Audi? Is the Honda guy “bad” or less worthy because he’s not an Audi? I mean, just the fact that you’re drawing a distinction between the two brands indicates a slightly higher than average awareness/interest in cars. Not saying that you’re a car enthusiast but knowing the differences could cause your own personal biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:43 PM
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Did you get “respect” or did you get a few minutes of compliments? Or do you hang around other gear heads and confuse a shared interest for what the general public thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:38 PM
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Because other guys told them to. It can’t possibly be more effective than simply not doing that. Unless you’re trying to attract the type of woman who is rented too…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:36 PM
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This is a 19-year-old kid who thinks his hypothetical girlfriend is going to leave him for a rando in a sports car. Let’s not assume he understands obvious facts of life. Hell, this sub is littered with guys asking the most profoundly out-of-touch alien-who-just-landed-on-this-planet questions about women. Not only do they need to be reminded that women aren’t a monolith, they need to be reminded to breathe on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:16 PM
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Men who have some life experience beside their misinterpretation of research abstracts don’t “worry” about that. They look for one woman who likes what they’ve got and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:14 PM
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Since I can’t say how I really feel about them—even as they pose a threat to boys and young men who now feel inadequate because they don’t have a fucking quarter million dollar sports car—I will just flag that manfluencers have utterly destroyed this generation and are being held to a shockingly low threshold of accountability for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:09 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:00 PM

Body dysphoria is a fundamentally impossible topic to talk with others about. It’s one of the most textbook you-problems around. That’s why it’s not an allowed topic of discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:53 PM
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Instead of just saying “nuh-uh,” why don’t you tell us what would make you see things the way every other person who isn’t stuck in a perpetual pity party sees reality? Do you think the wide variety of men with women right now are all paid actors conspiring to gaslight you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:59 PM
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There are people just as bad at receiving advice as there are people bad at giving it. You can lead a horse to water and all that. Personally I think we should normalize not helping people when it’s clear they’re not looking for help and always qualifying the advice we give with the caveat that you can choose to ignore it and nobody will give a damn either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:07 AM
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So there’s no good age at which to have kids because their parents are going to die…eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:00 PM
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An old-school appeal deserves an old-school response: You gonna pay for them? People aren’t putting off having kids for the hell of it. There are plenty of people dying to grow their family and they love their prospective kids enough to not want them to live in a shitty macro- and microeconomic situation. So unless you’re going to front the money to put their very justified worries at ease then STFU and let people make their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:59 PM
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You’re not always going to fail. 100 percent of the shots you don’t take and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:58 PM
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And lack of confidence leads to one never trying their chances. I’d take the odds of trying and failing over the odds of never trying any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:16 PM
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They aren't always the same women, but often they are. Especially on the internet, where people will say whatever is most convenient to their current argument, only to contradict themselves an hour later. gets them the most engagement, because a chronically online dude taking his rage to Reddit because of something you said is like hitting the girl troll jackpot. “Just don’t look” as life advice is undefeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:12 PM
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A: this sounds more like a 90s sitcom scene than an actual conversation between two people. B: why don’t you tell us the analogy you used instead of this example? C: if this was the analogy you used then woah boy, consider that you’re just ass at phrasing analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:29 AM
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Bullshit. A person with a job isn’t going to risk ruining their reputation or leaving good business on the table out of misogynistic spite. Or, in the unlikely event they can make triple the money exploiting female customers, they’re going to immediately raise their prices for all customers because, again, a good businessperson isn’t leaving money in the table. I hope all the revenge fantasy people just use this thread for their circle jerks all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:19 AM
20

A woman with no money could also handle her problem the same way a man with no money could: with a weapon. And the fact that you’re casually using rape for some weird pointless Reddit thought experiment is why women are caring less and less about men’s safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:07 AM
2

If it’s consensual and the proper labor gets proper compensation, what do I give a shit about it? These moralists and incels who try to make doing porn tantamount to domestic terrorism need to look in the mirror and get right with their own hangups. It’s only the female sex workers that become social pariah anyway. Hating porn is, ironically enough, a chronically online thing anyway. Most people in the real world are pretty apathetic about it because a: they consume it themselves and don’t want …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:17 PM
37

Seeing as this sub is full of dudes claiming they’ll have sex with any vaguely female-shaped breathing person who’ll let them, people need to find other analogies to get it through their skulls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:50 PM
14

Who outside of porno and 90s sitcoms actually shows the kind of “primal lust” these OPs are looking for? It’s not that women don’t experience lust, it’s that, past pubescent age, most people know how to keep their junk at bay in public and not dry hump every stranger they find hot. Once you see what lust actually looks like in the real world, you’re going to be sorely disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:14 PM
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How much work is the “and” doing, OP? That’s very important. I’d agree that all those things are very indicative of “traditional gender roles.” Probably even most of them. But reality lives in the gray area. What about the more realistic example of someone who prefers confidence, wants him to pay for the FIRST date only, but insists on finding their own way there and will initiate sex with you when she’s in the mood? Or any kind of mix-and-match combination you can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:46 PM
16

Well no offense but it sounds like you ended up with neither. As someone who has in fact met women, I can assure you your try-hard “play-it-cool” act isn’t fooling anyone. Nobody’s saying to her friend, “Mmm, that guy just standing in the background listening to our conversation without adding anything even though he clearly wants to makes me want to suck his dick right now!” Similarly, and I thought red pill was supposed to teach you guys this on day one: nobody gets horny for a sycophantic yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:50 PM
16

Withholding your genuine self for the sake of currying favor with women you like is the tactic that launched a million frustrated Nice Guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:43 PM
15

Do you…want to date these women you’re arguing with? If so, do you think this facade of “I don’t have a hard time with online dating even though it’s clearly tearing me apart” is gonna hold up long enough for you to attract them? And if you don’t want to date them then why worry about how you look in front of them? Here you had a perfect opportunity to speak your truth to actual humans in your life. You might not have gotten solutions, you might not have gotten useful advice, but you would’ve be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:39 PM
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The entire history of human interaction—romantic, platonic, and otherwise—is marked by our inability to accurately assess strangers by only a short first impression. Not even getting into “loving” someone after an hour merely near them. Stop romanticizing horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:42 PM
10

You can tell when an OP is fetish-farming when he’s like, “Yeah you gave a direct answer to my question, but go into more detail about your sexual activity in a way that would be super weird for a stranger to ask you. The slower the better.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:17 PM
4

“Population of millions spanning geographies, economies, and cultures: can you guys come to an overwhelming agreement on everything so we don’t have to consider you all as individuals?” Lazy fucking idiots…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:51 PM
17

People appreciate those who help them all the time. They appreciate them for what they do, not what sex they are. If you don’t feel the appreciation, go out and do something worthwhile, not ride the coattails of strangers’ accomplishments just because you have the same stuff between the legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:34 PM
1

I have no idea what the “relevance” of that is, but judging from the rest of your posts in this thread, that there is an example of the bad kind of emotionality. The kind characterized by wildly scattered general anger at both everyone and no one in particular, with no grounding in reality or anything another stable person may find relatable. Yeah, women are gonna want to stay away from that. Men too, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:30 PM
19

Will you accept the opinion of a woman whose opinion doesn’t match what you expect it to be? Simply put: Will you drop the subject once you get an answer? If not (and we all know 5000% you won’t) then you are, in fact, obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:07 PM
23

But you are obsessed with your own meat far more than any size queen ever could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:49 PM
65

When you want to talk about a topic FAR more than other people want to talk about it—to the point where everyone but you is exhausted by the constant discussions about it—then you care about the topic more than everyone else. By a lot, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:22 PM
13

“Expiration date” is for the most part a fiction cooked up by young guys who can’t imagine being older one day and finding women around that age attractive (fair), bitter dudes looking for a “One day you’ll get yours!” revenge fantasy (sad), and old dudes who have a preference for younger women and don’t know how not to be a dick about it (ugly).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:53 PM
4

“The next one” is usually dessert or the next drink or something else on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:39 AM
13

Textbook “only believe the answers that confirm your biases” thread. Nothing productive will come Out of this. But I’m bored so what the hell. Had panic attacks and the gf stayed by my side. Check. Parent death, cried, had a rough few weeks after. GF stayed by my side. Check. Went to an event with my gf. Had way too much to drink. Got emotional about god knows what. She stayed by my side. Check (she’s the one who gave me those drinks so she probably felt partially responsible for it). General ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:15 PM
15

Everything except “pay for all dates” is fine by me. Why does everything have to be so extreme? A woman asking out a guy she likes or proposing when she’s ready to or going “Hey, you take this one and I’ll take the next” should be so normalized as to not even be a topic of discussion. One day…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:08 PM
8

Youth and thinking theirs is the most unprecedented least relatable situation in the history of society. It’s an iconic duo going back to…the history of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:00 PM
7

Please enlighten me about how the porn industry somehow stopped exploiting, raping, and trafficking vulnerable women? While OnlyFans is slightly better than traditional porn since performers have a bit more control over what they are doing (theoretically) since traditional pantographers are out of pictures, Looks like you’re already “enlightened”… the clientele takes over that role, and due to the competitiveness of OnlyFans, if you aren't willing to do the demanded sex acts, your clients will s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:03 AM
6

You’ve got a very narrow definition of porn and an outdated idea of how the porn industry works (hello, OnlyFans). Is your axe to grind really against porn or toward a very specific niche of porn? I mean, it doesn’t matter. Your catastrophized conclusions from watching porn assumes the thoughts of viewers you don’t even know. Thought crimes and fake and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:33 AM
5

Not wanting to have sex with someone is not “feeling disgust.” THAT is a cope propped up by blackpill dudes who need to turn a simple lack of attraction into something Much Much Worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:24 PM
3

1: Big Tina Belcher energy potential. Could be a regular chick who knows all the euphemisms for “want a mature LTR,” but could also be a romantic idealist who expects to be swept off her feet at first sight. 2: All caps are big red flags. Sign of a person who is still resentful of past experiences and is looking for more reasons to disqualify than qualify. Everything else is very demanding and indicates wanting an accessory than a partner. Hard pass. 3: Cliche that says nothing. Blank space woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:02 PM
2

"99.9999% of men are ugly" is an obvious exaggeration but yes, the norm should be for both sexes to be a little more selective than the average redditor. Unless you are in the will-fuck-a-hole-in-a-squash stages of hyper-hormonal puberty, you should have some tastes and standards. They may not be the same as another guy's but you should have enough self-awareness to know that no, not every woman-shaped person should be super attractive to you. But to break it down to its most obvious: What right…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:49 PM
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Thirsties will blame everything but their thirst for their thirst-related problems—and then project it onto the dating world as a whole. And I think it’s about time we stop trusting straight men to evaluate the attractiveness of other men. Embarrassing to see a guy who thinks his painfully average buddy should be cleaning up with supermodels because he goes to the gym tell real women they’re wrong for not agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:33 PM
0

The lonely men overrepresent themselves—especially here. They famously and pathologically knock every viable solution available to them at this very moment, even going so far as to create an entire “pill culture” to collectively deride these viable solutions whenever someone proposes them: There are dance classes and groups. Oh, but dancing’s gay and those groups are full of old married people. There are board game clubs. Oh, but they’re sausage fests and they get ruined when girls show up. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:14 PM
3

We can bring back malls and juice bars and any other type of third space you want. I’m all for it. More free community centers! But they’re only going to be what they’ve always been: places to meet people, not meet exclusively single women who want to fuck you. And all euphemisms aside, this is what OP and any other PPD’er who complains about “not being able to meet anyone” actually want. How do I know? Because they constantly shit on the third spaces that exists right now. They complain that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:43 PM
3

Why would anyone with this mindset even attempt dating?! It sounds miserable for both sides. From the “average man’s” perspective, you’ve got…all that. And for the woman she’s stuck with a perpetually terrified ball of neuroses and low-self esteem who she always has to reassure she’s not going to leave. This is what people mean when they tell others to fix themselves before pursuing a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:51 PM
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There were never many public places designed exclusively to “meet women.” It’s like you think young men are missing out on guaranteed paths to women that older generations had, but it’s completely in your head. It was always a matter of going out and trying your luck, wherever and whatever it looked like to you specifically. The idea is to do something where you can still have a good time out, even if it doesn’t result in you getting your dick wet that night. There might have been “singles event…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:56 PM
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It’s not misandrist if it’s about one man(child). It’s some-guy-she’s-pissed-off-at-ist. Not that you actually believe what you’re saying. Congratulations on the free attention, OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:14 PM
2

Well I said very few, not none. And there’s always someone out there for any hobby. As a matter of fact, I bet OP’s hobbies could be considered attractive to a few women. Whether he actually wants those women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:22 AM
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This is a subreddit full of deeply insecure and socially anxious men whose social skills, at best, can be considered lacking. Of course the usage of dating apps is going to be overrepresented here. That said, I think dating apps in general are pretty much considered at least one part of the default dating experience. Most people use the apps as a supplement, a time-waster, or a hookup shortcut. And there’s a general societal acknowledgement of the apps’ value in those roles. But no, they don’t p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:01 PM
5

An alien can land on this planet, open up a newspaper, and tell within 10 minutes that that’s nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:54 PM
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…until she gets fat or cuts off the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:36 PM
5

Because you have more life experiences being you than however many fleeting moments in time you’re observing random women who like true crime and had an opportunity to be called out on it by someone else. Which, if those specific circumstances happened 5 times, is still about 4 times too many. “Why do I notice more things happening to me throughout my life than to strangers throughout their lives?” is what your question boils down to, you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:16 PM
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Again: this is a strawman. Nobody says that it’s impossible to be a misogynist and still attract women. But if you’re unattractive then you’re not going to be able to make yourself attractive by putting on some bad boy affect any more than you can by putting on a good guy affect. Rule 1. Rule 2. The question any decent person should ask is “Is it worth it to be an abuser if you think it’ll get you more sexual partners—especially considering the type of partner who would be attracted to overt ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:25 PM
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Because nobody wants to feel like the subservient party to royalty in a relationship (unless prior agreement). Are princesses known for offering mutual love and support to their romantic partners? Are princesses known for making small but important sacrifices for the good of the relationship? No? Then that’s why it’s a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:33 PM
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Yeah, some of the biggest annual conventions are dedicated to sci-fi and gaming because nerdy guys are such social pariahs. There are very few hobbies people are considered attractive specifically for having. It’s just a matter of if you can live with that person’s hobbies or not—and most people are simply neutral on most of their partners’ hobbies. So if you can’t find anyone who is at least neutral on guys with nerdy hobbies then you have improbably shit luck or hate looking places where you m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:49 AM

I’ve been to work parties. Even when alcohol was involved you were expected to not act like you’re in a club. Hell, even if you’re in a club with a bunch of non-coworkers, you still need to know how to keep your hands to yourself and seek consent. And it’s doubly important for women since, as we’re seeing in this thread, they’re held to a lower standard of conduct than men. People who cry about the “women are wonderful effect” really need to look into who’s perpetuating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:28 PM

Then you clearly haven’t checked with any decent company that takes the threat of legal action seriously. Attitudes like yours is the reason why men who have a crystal clear textbook case that they’ve been harassed choose to do nothing, thereby continuing the tradition of men allowing themselves to be mistreated because of the assumption that speaking up for yourself is futile. As is always the case when red pill is involved, the call is coming from inside the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:16 PM

Then she’s a theater kid with really inappropriate social skills that should get her removed from her job. Are these standards according to her, your friends, or someone with the power to do anything about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:01 PM

You were sexually harassed, dude. Did you report her? Did anyone else witness it and report her? If you did and were ignored then any decent HR department would itself open itself up to liability. But yes, this is sexual harassment, by the letter of any reputable training given to working adults over the past 25 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:31 PM
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Well thank you for calibrating for me. I don’t know if I’d call an intimate game night a “house party,” but maybe my age is just showing. As someone who has two friends who married after meeting at a game night I hosted, I’d agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:49 PM
13

Bold you of you assume the current generation of landlords aren’t considerably more hostile toward the idea of their tenants doing anything more than sleeping and sitting quietly in “their” apartments. Or that neighbors haven’t become more prickish about large groups of strangers that might cause loud noises. Like I get what you’re saying, but it’s not just young adults’ asocialness that’s causing problems but the general misanthropy and low tolerance for strangers that suppressing any kind of “…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:39 PM
12

Bold of you to assume young adults these days have houses of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:28 PM
1

It’s all going to boil down to if she likes you or not. You’re either not going to hear back from her if you give her your number or, if you do get her number, you’re gonna be texting a lot of pizza places…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:42 PM
1

And that is why the sexlessness rate of guys under 5’11” is 100%, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:17 AM
1

The same height I was in my 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:52 AM
6

I was trying to challenge your premise of offering helpful advice, OP, but whatever the mods say… You’re hitting at a paradox deep within every PPD sadsacks. They are essentially narcissists with extremely low self-esteem. They want to be attractive to the most women not because they want to DATE most women, but because the more women who lust after you, the higher score you get on the Alpha Chad scoreboard. You can’t tell them to niche down because finding your market means conceding that you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:21 PM

Women have always wanted authentically attractive guys. I think we’re just at a point where women’s increasing skepticism of strange guys’ intentions is meeting up with guys’ decreasing ability to be even inauthentically charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:33 PM
2

Well it might not be you but has to be someone. And much like hunger, where even if a random individual doesn’t need to feed people themselves, society still put pressure on those in power to do something about it. We either put the same pressure on someone with power to do something about dateless men or we’re saying that they’re fine to go without their “need.” Now I’m fine with it because I don’t think dating is a “need.” But if it were and nobody actually cared about those who lack it gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:23 PM
14

Everybody needs others in some capacity or another. That’s the definition of a society. But from a dating standpoint, nobody should need anyone because then that puts a moral obligation on everyone to be someone’s romantic partner. So long as masturbation exists, nobody should need anyone. It might hurt like hell not to have it, but you’ll survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:08 PM
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Yeah, and it hasn’t changed the type of woman I’m personally attracted to one bit. And judging by the type of woman who has to stay in online dating for long periods of time, it hasn’t shifted society’s preference much either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:58 PM
8

Rule to live by that you need to understand: Behind every piece of advice is the unstated caveat “…or don’t. Nobody really cares either way.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:10 PM
4

“Women’s attention is becoming the most dominant if not only currency” isn’t an attempt at serious discussion. It’s a catastrophizing conspiracy theory to sound more sophisticated than “I’m sad because I got rejected.” I’m all for discussions about insecurities but you have to meet me somewhere in the neighborhood of the ballpark of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:53 AM
25

This is only true in an alternate reality where like 98% of the world’s population died off and only incels roamed the land. I cannot pay my mortgage with tinder messages from girls. I work to secure a roof over my head and all the creature comfort I can afford, not for a wink from a girl at the club. And I’m not trading everything I work for just for my crush to throw signals my way. Even in the event where I got all the sex I could ever want, there’s still going to be about what? 160 or so hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:54 PM
5

Red pill sure loves pretending they invented or have ownership of the most basic shit. Liking girls who—by name and definition—are literally conventional in their attractiveness? Totally based, bro. They’re the type of guy whose “hear me out” is some Euphoria chick who isn’t Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:52 PM
2

I’m just talking about similarity in ages in terms of appearance, addressing the common PPD trope of guys who think women immediately morph into wrinkly old hags the morning of their 30th birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:06 PM
0

I get it, but I also get the social awkwardness of being told critical information about human bodies in front of the opposite sex at such a sensitive time. Bad enough to get told about erections and nocturnal emissions with other penis-havers, even worse when you’re sitting next to a girl during it. I absolutely agree that both sexes need to be educated on the biology, but as someone who’s had female family members, girls don’t even want to talk about their periods with their dads, so there’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:51 PM
1

That could work, but now it needs to have a point. Like during recess, when kids are most free to choose their activities, boys typically hang out with boys and girls typically hang out with girls—which should be good enough. I just want a reason why we would tell a class of young children, “Okay, now you boys HAVE to spend this section with each other and you girls HAVE to spend this section with each other.” To what end? So they can just read and do math problems like normal—but with half thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:57 PM
1

I understand and agree. These are very important factors to determine if one’s dating struggles are circumstantial or due to some hard truth about life. If OP is in a position where he can’t move then he has my T’s and P’s, but it’s very much not because of his age because there are men in their 30s who are thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:56 PM
1

We’re getting there! There are betting markets for all the award shows these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:14 PM
0

I think people who gravitate toward body modification are generally less attractive, and therefore are more likely to have experienced negative treatment. Sorry but the word “therefore” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Are you saying that your personal tastes determine the history of abuse in complete strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:35 PM
12

People have a tendency to make their personal pet peeves indicative and the cause of broader societal problems. Blaming crime on video games, gay hurricanes, etc. The nose ring thing is just guys who hate the aesthetic of a nose ring performing 4 seconds of shitty arm chair pop psychology to conclude that no, it’s not a matter of personal taste but actually a Much Bigger Problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:11 PM
7

I disagree. Children—boys and girls—need to be able to socialize and thrive together. Segregation, especially early on, just fosters the most toxic traits in a gender. We can start exploring gender-segregated groups once we establish a baseline that The Other doesn’t have cooties and it’s good to have empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:50 PM
4

Not my problem. If guys are willing to move halfway around the world for women they think are a better match, then a guy in his 30s can leave his conservative small town for the nearest midsize city to increase his dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:55 AM
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I’m open to believing there is some kind of systemic answer for the appearance of girls doing better in school than boys, but if that wasn’t always the case, then what was the change? The “sit down and shut up” model of schooling has been around forever and boys seemed to do fine in it at one point. And if girls are better at doing as they’re told, following instructions, and working in a group, why do boys and men flock to the military? I don’t trust any conclusion that seemed to pop up out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:36 AM
10

“Feminine” and “Masculine”—especially in terms of expressing dating preferences—are chronically online terms that people with more academic experience than social experience expect to do all the heavy lifting. One would be right to be confused by the vagueness of these terms without any supporting examples that could apply to real-life people. That’s why, cliche as it is, people usually express their “masculinity” or “femininity” through some kind of tangible visualization: “I’m a dress and heel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:16 AM
86

I only have personal experience to go off but the 30s have been my best era to date. I finally got my fitness and career under control. I developed hobbies and self-identity that’s not related to picking up women. And I was finally ready to live life with the—cover your ears, incels—confidence that comes from spending 30 years on this planet. Women found all that attractive and I’ve been comfortable ever since. Now admittedly I’m a late bloomer and I would’ve had the same success if I had all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:09 PM
6

The only reason I disagree is because, as you’ve seen in this thread so far, when some people do develop a self-identity, the identity is shittier than if they just stayed a driftless nondescript NPC. Now self-aware shitty people can still find other shitty people, but generally speaking—especially around here—some guys are better off being LESS themselves. Or just not bother trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:28 AM
8

Lameness of doing a lazy gender-swap of a recent thread aside, from what I gather, all women really want to do if they woke up in a man’s body is pee everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:20 AM

Whatever works. A lot of people don’t feel comfortable operationalizing a task to the nth degree—especially when it comes to something that might seem second nature to them like socialization. After all, if you meet someone who found the love of their life based purely on vibes, how are you going to tell them they went about achieving their goal the wrong way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:03 PM
8

You’re complaining that a population that’s able to give what a market is willing to pay for does better than a population that can’t? You’re going to be shocked when you learn how literally all of employment works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:04 PM
-7

What difference does the medium make?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:12 PM
-8

Because when a man complains about his physical shortcomings he comes across like a weepy hand grenade on the verge of an emotional breakdown (source: have been that man many a time!). Throw that in front of people and obviously they’re going to want to placate that and change the subject, not say, “Yeah, you’re ugly as sin, sucks to be you I guess.” And women are even more likely to placate because they’ve had plenty of practice with their female friends who also struggle with their appearance.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:02 PM
-6

That’s not brainwashing, that’s selective listening. Nobody past the age of 13 should ever need to be told that there’s an attraction threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:28 PM

The fact that it’s the only “social circle” that can cost you your income and livelihood, not just an awkward group text conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:44 PM

But you’re not going to socialize with your coworkers like you would any other friend group. Even workplace happy hours have an unspoken expectation that “Okay, we can drink but we can’t drink like we do with our jackass fantasy football friends.” When your livelihood is on the line—and you’re trying to develop a fruitful actual social life—it’s important not to mistake your work life for your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:04 PM

Work isn’t a social circle. Edit or no edit, you need to made that distinction and you haven’t shown an ability or willingness to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:49 PM
4

Yes, but everything seems like an eternity when you’re young and inexperienced. Then you get a new “love” and a new one and a new one until you realize that the losing still sucks—a lot—but it’s never the only one and it definitely doesn’t last for eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:33 PM
1

Does everything someone says to you need to come with an “Of course there are exceptions and not every member of a population applies to this, only an idiot would think that” disclaimer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:23 PM
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You don’t show kindness to get laid and, believe it or not, there’s more to kindness than throwing a pity fuck to a sad boy. Do you even appreciate the kindnesses big and small that we get from friends, family and strangers? Or do they not matter because the pretty girl doesn’t want to spread em for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:11 PM
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I don’t know if “You better thank us for the protection we provide you from us” is more abusive partner or mafia shakedown.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:54 PM
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Both things can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:11 AM
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Maybe if you were conditioned to make beauty routines a part of your daily life from an early age, it wouldn’t seem so onerous to you either. I been in large early-morning zoom meetings where I was one of only two or three dudes (and none of us are lookers) and female colleagues would still be touching up their makeup or apologizing for not wearing lipstick…for who, exactly? I’m just saying, you’ll have an easier time in life—and be wrong a lot less often—once you realize that not everything peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:45 AM
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Or is it because nobody who’s ever had to go through junior high dance season should need to be told explicitly that people will treat those they find attractive better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:11 AM
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Why do people always act like “people appreciate attention from those they’re attracted to” is some kind of wild scandalous revelation that’s the golden “gotcha” to some unfair double standard? Everybody wants attention from attractive people. Nobody wants attention from unattractive people. Unless you’re telling me that a compliment from Sydney Sweeney and a compliment from Esther the Walmart Greeter would hit exactly the same for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:43 PM
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Do you brush/comb your hair when you go out? Wear clean clothes? Cut your nails? Shave your face? Try to reduce excess fat? People don’t want to go out feeling like they look like shit—and that’s not even a gendered thing and it’s definitely not an “I want sexual attention from all who lay eyes on me” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:38 PM
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This is “Grass is Greener: The Wall of Text” edition. First of all, female sexuality is only a “power” when it comes to cultivating the attention of hyper-thirsty men who can’t act without their penises leading the way. Good for some free drinks and flattery on demand. But women have regularly stated that the type of men they attract with only their sexuality is usually the type of men they don’t particularly want around them. So their power is more akin to Aquaman if he were only able to summon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:31 PM

One’s capacity for empathy and acknowledgment of the world’s reality isn’t subject to one country’s electoral process. “Woke” isn’t coming back because “Woke” never left and can’t be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:39 PM

Everyone fighter has a plan until they get punched in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:05 PM
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There’s no greater social filter for stupid thoughts than life experience. Your post reads like the only thing keeping an average mature man from speaking like a 13-year-old loser is the threat of divorce and job loss. But in many (not all) cases, the thing that’s stopping grown men from acting this way online is having lived long enough to not be QUITE so dumb—or being dumb yet having more going on in their lives than online trolling. A lot of those boys will grow up to be men cringing at their…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:37 PM
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Not to diminish the horribleness of those comments, but it makes a lot more sense when you realize that the redpill “man”osphere is primarily populated by adolescent boys. Only the most sheltered life-inexperienced edgelords are capable of sounding so dangerous yet so stupid. Watch the video of Sneako meeting up with his fans to see the true faces of that kind of online rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:08 PM
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Said nobody who knew what they were talking about ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:09 AM
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There’s an adverse reaction to sexual thoughts just like there’s an adverse reaction to farts. It’s not that nobody has them, it’s just that decent people know not to let them loose in public. 101-level social skills, people!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:37 AM
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Stop romanticizing horniness. Adults don’t expect unconditional love. People who have an unhealthy relationship with their need to cum off the image of a young hot stranger use “love” to make their horniness look sophisticated. It doesn’t have to be. You just have a healthy sex drive—not a need for unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:53 PM
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I think that’s fair and consistent with what I’m also hearing about that demographic. Specifically the “partner” and “other things are taking priority” parts are important details. College/university is an extremely demanding time in someone’s life. You’re under intense pressure to perform academically, in many cases the looming threat of a lifetime of college loan debt is starting to appear, you’re being told that you need to jump into a successful career soon, it only gets more and more compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:19 PM
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If you guys would just get over it and start an erotic creative writing group together the loneliness epidemic would end overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:11 AM
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This is that goalpost-moving exercise I was suspicious of. You’re looking for reasons to negate the very real relationships you’re seeing, going so far as trying to play psychic and create issues that aren’t evident. It was more respectable (and accurate) when you said “some men have shit luck in dating.” Pretending that every relationship that doesn’t fit within your worldview has some kind of invisible loveless poison pill to it is so sad for you that it’s not even worth addressing seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:22 PM
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Because it’s a rhetorical dead end to claim “a certain percentile of attractiveness” when a: the subjective nature of attractiveness makes trying to categorize objective percentiles messily inaccurate and b: it’s disproven by…just looking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:12 PM
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I’m not sure why that kind of context matters in this case. If this is a goalpost-moving exercise to try to find some reason to make sexlessness a bigger issue than it is, then know this is why people say “just look around.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:59 PM
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Over my 7 years here on Reddit I have seen men complain about rights or protections that men should have only to not see a single peep of meaningful advocacy in any forum that matters. And if you question them, they always cite risks to their reputation or something. Yeah every group that has fought for pretty much anything across history has had to make sacrifices. But apparently now, all of a sudden, it's too much. Nobody can commit to shit nowadays, at least not in large enough numbers to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:56 PM
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If masturbation is a solution to all of these health problems then “humiliation” shouldn’t an excuse to avoid it. Do you want to maintain your health or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:33 PM
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Huzzah! The loneliness epidemic is over then…right? Or this is just an example of what as always been the case: women care about the men who fit into their small personal circle of men to care about (in this case, guys who voted the way they’d prefer) and disregard the rest—with a double fuck you to “the rest” in this political environment. Also, how small is your world if proof of your theory is the handful of women you apparently stalk on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:28 PM
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We’re not saying to look in retirement communities. You can literally look around fucking everywhere. Even on college campuses, it’s not just the supermodels and the jocks who are getting together. And even the most blackpilled stats of the 18-30 cohort (way to cherry pick) show that yes, most people are still dating and having sex. Short, tall, fat, skinny, any hue you please. Even if the sexlessness rate and loneliness are increasing, most people will eventually find someone—and it’ll probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:01 PM
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Oh, Christ. Was it the Bible, romance films, or love songs that gave you the idea that fucking—the thing done during drunken hookups and in front of cameras in Chatsworth—really is a “spiritual melding of souls”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:00 PM
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FML, the fact that gregarious abusers exist doesn’t prove that it’s better to be an antisocial hermit. And why do you care what self-absorbed status-obsessed women want anyway? Is that the type of woman you’re after?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:59 PM
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They’re different but I find that the social competence and emotional IQ one develops through platonic friendships sure makes being in a romantic relationship that much easier. Even just base level desirability, I don’t think any girlfriend of mine—past or present—would stick around very long if I were somehow opposed to or incapable of making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:34 PM
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You don’t think there is SOME significant overlap between relationships and friendships? Enough of one that you’d be really disappointed in the former if you hate the latter? I’d be fascinated to hear how you think a relationship would play out in real life and how someone who hates friendships would be able to navigate one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:26 PM
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Why would someone who hates friendships want a romantic relationship, one of the most emotionally intense friendships possible? Such people don’t want a romantic partner, they want a human sex doll. And it’s fine to want that, but it wouldn’t make sense to complain about loneliness if that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:14 PM
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In times of widespread anxiety and scarcity, it’s the ones bold enough to buck the trends that end up winning. Younger people aren’t socializing enough? Be the social one in your group. Organize the most hangs, initiate the most conversations, be the person everyone around you is afraid to be. Even if it’s not in your nature to be that guy—especially if it’s not in your nature to be that guy—it’s all the more reason to make the leap. Every other lonely person sees the example you’re making and, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:03 PM
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The core narrative of BP hasn't changed: they link men's romantic and sexual success to their morals and diligence, because, in essence, "women are wonderful". Hence why BP advice always revolves around becoming a "wholesome" man, as defined by them. Please explain more how the premise that men lack morals and diligence (not saying that it’s true, but that’s the premise) links to people believing women are wonderful? Isn’t it just as likely that everyone sucks but people focus on the guys becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:55 PM
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I don’t think OP is wrong, but way to abandon all pretense and go straight to dick size (which women and men make fun of, BTW). If you want to act like you’re posting more than the millionth dick size thread, at least throw in a couple of red herring examples first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:42 PM
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I very much agree. That’s why I advise people to think outside the frame and imagine what has to go on to create the image you’re reacting to. Best example are those TikToks of people crying over some pity-inducing caption. That person had to set up a camera, set up their lighting, check their framing and composition, make themself cry, edit the video of themself crying!!!, and then make a conscious decision to post the video. When you think about all that, it all seems quite ridiculous, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:10 PM
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The point is that whatever “trends” you see on the internet could be—indeed, probably are—based on lies and exaggerations. Are there guys who haven’t gotten matches in four months? Definitely. Is every guy who says he hasn’t gotten a match in four months telling the truth? Almost certainly not—especially in this Sad Boy Age where internet communities are run on oneupmanship in telling sad stories. But more importantly: because there’s no fact-checking online and internet communities are more mem…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:05 PM
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Ah, well if someone—or a group of someones representing “the red pill”—says they never lie then they must never lie. It’s illegal to lie on the internet if you say you don’t lie. Like how cops have to say that they’re cops if asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:58 PM
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Statistics can be true (although wildly misinterpreted around here) and individual cases can be fabricated. Take anonymous Internet people at face value and you’d think every single one of those ~30% of sexless men were right here on PPD. Or that there has never once been a woman who managed to not leave her partner after he opened up emotionally. And the greater social health is probably exacerbated by all these fake pity parties the sad boys like to throw in their dark circlejerks. It’s become…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:56 AM
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Thank you—I forgot about this angle too. Like the fake podcast/guru bros who don’t even have a friend to talk to, so they just set up a camera and record themselves spouting nonsense. But their eyes are always just off center as if they’re being interviewed by someone else in the room. But nobody is there. Liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:13 AM
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Famous murders who a lot of people know by name and news coverage get more attention than some anonymous coder who hasn’t stepped out of the house in three months? The shock! Just like how unconventionally attractive celebrities still get groupies—but you guys dismiss that with “just be famous, bro.” It’s almost like being in the conscience of more people makes you more likely to get romantic attention from someone (even if she’s sick in the head, which OP apparently has no problem with). How ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:15 PM
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These men trivialize themselves by shitting on what few well-intentioned people are left trying to offer sincere useful advice. After all, how serious must a person’s problems really be if they express more motivation to dismiss advice than follow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:19 PM
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Most of the guys here aren’t looking for dating advice, they’re looking for step-by-step guides to 100% iron-clad guaranteed sex without risking that icky rejection feeling. Small difference but it defines the dynamics of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:29 PM
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Revenge fantasies and the inevitable fact that it would be the sad weirdos who generate the most AI art.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:46 AM

There’s a difference between strangers and friend groups—what is being whined about right now. If a friend group consists of mentally unstable people who react disproportionately to minor situations then getting laid within that group is the least of one’s concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:35 PM
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Let's just cut through the euphemisms and plausible deniabilities. As someone else who also has hobbies, people only get banned from groups if they're harassing others. Not a "We should go out some time. No? Okay then." Not an "Are you seeing anyone? Oh, well tell him I said hey." But straight-up serial hit-on-every-girl-within-striking-distance-and-refuse-to-take-rejection-with-grace harassment. Your friend got cut out because he innocently asked out a girl one time? He's lying or leaving somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:36 PM
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The rules here compel me to take your story at face value, so I will: welcome to socialization. People are unpredictable and react in unpredictable ways. Well-intentioned charity canvassers get yelled at on street corners for doing their jobs. Restaurant servers get cursed out by customers because the kitchen is slow to get food out. People are jerks and being treated poorly is the risk we all take when we decide to go out in the world and deal with strangers. Most of us do it anyway. Talk to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:09 PM
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Generally speaking, I agree. But you know this group: any exception is an excuse to shut down the pursuit of effort entirely. Tell them it's a stupid idea to approach a co-worker and suddenly it's "You can't even look at a woman anymore without getting thrown in prison! Wah wah wah." Guess I'd rather them learn the stove is hot the hard way than resolve to never step foot in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:03 PM
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Just awful advice unless you're trying to add to the army of feckless wonders looking for an off-ramp from resilience, who think two or three failed attempts does a lifetime make.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:56 PM
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"Do it anyway" is always an option. There's a difference between "social stigma" and the law. Hell, "social stigma" in this case is just a couple of tsk tsks from internet randos you'll never ever have to answer to. So...do it anyway. Success is not guaranteed--want to make that abundantly clear--but where in this life is success ever guaranteed? Still a better option than sitting on reddit crying about barriers that never actually existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:41 PM
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You can't "get rid" of the manosphere any more than you can create it. It occurred organically just like any wildly successful movement does: out of opportunism and an underserved market. And since the sad lonely boys still aren't getting dates, they're still going to seek validation of their anger and an apparent easy way out of adversity. A new manosphere will pop up as soon as you get rid of the old one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:37 PM
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Actual dating experience--especially if the first few times weren't positive--hurt much much more. But manosphere content has a once-you-pop-you-can't-stop quality that encourages a slow burn of indoctrination across multiple content streams over a long period of time without coming up for air. Both suck, both play a part in radicalizing, and both need each other. Positive dating experience doesn't need manosphere content and avoiding manosphere content would help young boys better cope with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:53 PM
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And most of them, who want to, will. If I’m not starving right now then I’ll be fine knowing the check’s in the mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:02 PM
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Yet they’re not crying about it at nearly the extent of their male counterparts, leading me to believe that they are in fact much more comfortable with low-pressure tire-kicking or just not having casual sex at all than the doom and gloom of the OP’s tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:01 PM
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Seems like a them problem. On the other hand, you can be the woman who partied through her 20s, settled down with a man (who probably parted through his 20s) in her 30s, started an nice family, blah blah blah. Just because a choice turned out poorly for one person doesn’t mean it can’t turn out perfectly for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:59 PM
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I don't think women take online dating as seriously as men do, given the fact that the demographics in online dating skew heavily toward men and women generally aren't as desperate to land a date at any given time. What you see as indecisiveness I see as idle tire-kicking and light socialization where the stakes feel much higher for one side than the other. Eliminate online dating and you're still going to have an environment where women aren't as pressured to lock down an LTR as early in life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:34 PM
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Where the fuck are you guys working that you’re just openly talking with colleagues about gang bangs? And how are you guys so free to talk to female coworkers about gangbangs yet so stunted to need to make PPD Q4W women to see if Santa is real?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:54 PM
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Denial and grass-is-greener syndrome. If somebody envisions themself as the guy on the left and isn’t getting the dating results they would like, they’re going to suspect you of lying. Even if in fact they aren’t anywhere near the guy on the left, they’re just fat. Meanwhile, it’s easier to assume the world is conspiring against you and that your actual goals are just unachievable. That’s where the guy on the right comes in. It’s comforting (yes, even the rage is comforting) to believe that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:20 PM
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The fact that someone born in 2003 would have more opportunity for casual sex than someone born in 1973 should not be surprising at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:13 PM
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I've learnt of and been involved in multiple instances of cheating by people whoyou'd never suspect capable of it. (Some women are VERY good at keeping their own secrets) Lesson for those susceptible to pillosphere rhetoric: these people rely on the shock factor of “YoU’d NeVeR SuSpEcT” to make you extra suspicious and frightened of something you probably inherently knew for a while. If you know that cheating is possible and that fit, attractive people have an easier time getting casual sex—basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:12 PM
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It’s not ad hominem, it’s cutting through the bullshit. You think you’re the only person here who’s ever tried creative angles to the “settle for unattractive men” argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:27 PM
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Because nobody—and I mean nobody—who has ever advocated for people lowering their dating standards has been an engaging and attractive dating option themselves. And don’t fool yourself: your OP is advocating for lowering standards, just wrapping it up in the standard PPD faux-logic language.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:07 PM
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A lot. I love still having the potential to be attractive (emphasis on potential) even if I skip the gym or eat a few extra calories or have a few more birthdays. I love how my imposter syndrome is blunted a little bit by the assumption of competence by everyone else. I really love not needing to worry about what clothes I’m going to wear every day or what my skincare or beauty routine should be. …damn, all of this makes me sound like a slob. Ah well, being a man means I can be comfortable with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:42 PM
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I know this is a sub where weirdos over analyze every possible corner of dating, but the obsessiveness with which you guys regard dick size is truly disturbing. I don’t think urologists have thought about dick this much. Like serial-killer-who-collects-genitals-in-jars shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:42 PM

Whenever someone whines about “freedom of speech” and it doesn’t have to do with the government prosecuting you for what you say, it always translates to “I miss the friends and family who stopped talking to me for being an asshole.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:11 PM
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A nice guy whose only discernible personality trait is niceness (so pretty much every internet nice guy) is a human-shaped vending machine of free favors. Fun to take advantage of, miserable to go out with on a date. Just look at your example: two indecisive people deferring to each other is an unspoken circle of hell. It’s not that complicated. Consider the other person but hold on to your personal ideals and beliefs. Let me back up: develop personal ideals and beliefs first and then hold on to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:01 AM
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Well nothing “should” happen in dating, it’s up to what the people dating want. And most people think time with another person that they asked for is worth something, even if it’s only of sentimental value. Those people have no problem finding dates. Others…not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:42 AM

Someone’s never met a fat fetishist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:10 PM
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I’ll give the unpopular opinion coming from the perspective of someone who was in business before he was an active dater. If I needed something from a client or a colleague, I’d pay for their time in the form of coffee or whatever as a courtesy and acknowledgment that they’re going out of their way to do something for me. I took that mentality into dating without giving a second thought to…whatever the hell these complainers are talking about. What happened? Most of the time the girl would refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:49 PM
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Before you’re exposed to any kind of media, you hopefully had active enough parents who were the first to inspire your imagination and pump you up to be anything you want. And then hopefully teachers who cared enough to reinforce that message. The TikTok generation didn’t invent encouragement. They just invented thinking encouragement was a guarantee—and then bitching out the people who only wanted what was best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:24 PM
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Kids have been told they could do anything for generations and generations and yet they managed to not crash out when they were 7 and realized they weren’t going to be astronauts. It’s part of trying to establish enough self-esteem to fuel ambition and weather disappointment. “Shoot for the moon. If you miss you’ll land among the stars,” and such. But somehow in the dating scene—when they’re way older than when they realized they weren’t going to be an astronaut, by the way—kids took the words o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:10 PM
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I don’t think there’s as big a problem with dating as this sub makes it look like, but I do think there’s a problem with accepting the inherently unfair nature of the world. Somewhere along the line younger people stopped realizing that you can do everything right and still not get the result you want. Or they’re realizing it too late in life for it to be of any use during the formative years. The dating scene is full of people absolutely incapable of dealing with disappointments, setbacks, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:41 PM
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Yeah, for the longest time this practice was known as “trolling.” Nowadays, “engagement baiting.” Either way, when an attempt at it is so obvious and innocuous, the response isn’t to get angry and upset as if she did this in earnest. The play is to ignore it or, on the off chance it was in earnest, roll your eyes at a dummy. I mean, at the VERY worst, she made a slutty TikTok to promote her OF. That’s really worth anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:12 PM
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I thought it was parody at first just because I’ve seen TikTok comedians do bits like this in the past. Obviously anyone getting genuinely upset and angry about it is doing so because woman and they need serious help ASAP. But it’s still an annoying and unhelpful trend because outfits like that aren’t office appropriate in any sense and you shouldn’t have to work in an office to know that. So this trend is just going to get new office workers in trouble and distract from real issues of misogyny …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:07 PM
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Don’t put your “hopes and dreams” in a stranger’s hand just because you find her pretty. WTF, you guys can’t see how you’re doing all of this to yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:31 PM
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For the life of me I’ll never understand why guys who are so thoroughly not cut out for casual relationships that they need a 400-page manual to get started actually want causal relationships in the first place. What’s a dog going to do with a car when he finally catches one anyway? The reason there’s no good “blue pill dating manual” is because red pill is the only group willing to bullshit lost young men for fun and profit. If everyone else is telling you that the human experience is so unique…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:07 PM
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Unfortunately The Usual Suspects—one of whom was called out by name in the show—jumped to obfuscate and derail conversation about the show as soon as it came out. And if you’re a follower of the manosphere, there’s no need to watch the show for yourself once your talking points and marching orders get published. Note how quick they are with the “it was based on a black boy” lie. We could’ve introduced some new and productive ideas. But I’ll settle for the ol’ reliable: “A hit dog hollers.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:21 AM
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For someone who hasn’t seen it, you sure have a lot of opinions on it. And not surprisingly they’re all wrong. The neglect and abandonment of young boys was pretty much the entire theme of episodes two and four. The portrayal of red pill theory was accurate, right down to the fact that many adults misunderstand or downright haven’t heard of it. Though some are probably disappointed that red pill isn’t portrayed as The Truth. They can cry about it. But of course you latched on to the “it was base…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:47 PM
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I don’t know how useful this comment is so I’ll put it here, but it’s pretty telling how, IMHO, the longest and most argumentative sub threads here seem to resemble episode three. You’ve got men angrily venting every frustration they have at the world—some valid, some absurd—at a party that can’t relate and can’t provide blind validation. And in the end nothing good or productive happens. The men/boy is sent away screaming, still doomed to his fate, and the other party may gain some understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:37 PM
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We really do need to lift the ban on negating posters’ stated experience. There’s a lot of calling bullshit waiting to be done around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:08 PM
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What do guys who think like this think of women who physically cannot have children? That they’re unworthy of a lifelong love? That they have no further reason to exist? EDIT: I also sincerely doubt men who think so absolutely about a stranger’s decision whether or not to have kids actually possess the heart and capacity for empathy to be good parents in the first place. They want offspring for the flex, not the love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:21 PM
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Any answer you get is going to be pure speculation. Trying to understand sexual fetishes is like trying to find shapes in clouds. My guess: I suppose if your sexuality is more likely to take on the traditional passive role then having that passivity taken to the extreme in that matter would be more of a turn-on than if you’re already the aggressor by “traditional” default. Sort of like how during my time in the kink community I saw way more male subs than female subs. Also, how many men are real…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:47 PM
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Meh. It’s fantasy, not my business. Calling out deep voice guys specifically is a choice. Is that the new thing for the online sad bois to be self-conscious about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:38 PM
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No argument from me. There isn’t a loneliness epidemic, just an epidemic of young people who have yet to realize that there’s no fairness in this life. Just opportunity, persistence and luck—and even that won’t guarantee you “fair” results. Once we all come to this realization this sub should be tumbleweeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:19 PM
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Most people are mature enough not to shit on someone for being gainfully employed, especially if it’s an occupation that helps people as you say. And if that’s not your experience then you need to closely examine the company you keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:35 PM
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Sometimes I think you guys are frustrated because you’re dating junior high schoolers. In a day where more and more guys are trying to become crypto bros, course gurus, or gambling addicts, any stable career automatically makes you a little more attractive to a mature adult, “female” occupation or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:28 PM
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Anyone would do anything “for enough money.” What kind of answer is that? Watch the documentary. This isn’t some average repressed girl who was financially enticed into this stunt she otherwise would never do. She already had an OF, she already took pride in being a slut, it didn’t really take much for her to leap into “Let me try to have sex with 100 men in a day.” She was predisposed. If you think any ol’ body is capable of doing that for a few bucks then you’re even more affected by the spect…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:45 PM
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Do you think the average woman wants to fuck 100 men in a single day?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:20 PM

“Being polite and friendly is dumb. Now let me tell you why you need to care about male loneliness driving us to suicide.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:37 PM

I’m not a community organizer and no “goal” is gonna be accomplished posting on the Fart Joke and Cat Meme App. I’m just one person who would like to not see other people being treated as non-consenting sex objects. Anything I can do toward that I’ll do, even if it’s just telling someone how stupid “it doesn’t affect you” is on the aforementioned Fart Joke and Cat Meme App.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:34 PM

Most people care about cancer. If you said “Should we help cancer victims?” Most people would say yes. But cancer is not going to be a motivating issue for the majority of people because most people don’t have to deal with it. It’s called empathy and the basic human desire to end an objectively bad thing. Anyone can move goalposts to define what “motivating issue” means, but all that funding toward cancer research and charities aren’t just coming from people personally affected by it. SA and rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:47 PM

And yet, unless that population is 100%, there is still a discrepancy in how men treat attractive vs. unattractive women. I’m not trying to make some gender-swapped gotcha, just saying that the fact that everyone treats those they like better is so obvious that it hardly warrants a post. By the way, is that population that much larger or are you just more efficient at mentally filtering out women you’re not attracted to? Any trip to the post office or grocery store is a parade of women I’m not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:03 PM

The guys on this sub do an outstanding job outlining how women treat men they’re attracted to differently while completely missing how they treat women they’re attracted to differently as well. You can cry about this inconsistency once you start giving money and attention to the 300-pound chick with skin tags and missing teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:46 PM

People have been studying kinks for ages and are still just scratching the surface of what can be understood. Whatever you think the most logical answer is to the type of porn people watch, you’re probably not even in the ballpark. I’ve always worked under the theory that some random mundane event happened while your developing mind was still building its pathways and boom: a lifelong fetish is established and you just have to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:10 PM

Aw, buddy. I thought professional wrestling was real fighting at one time too. So I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:36 PM

That makes sense, but I honestly think that a lot of people here—especially the younger ones—are also so bereft of media literacy and internet experience that they legitimately think ragebait is sincerity and that they keep getting the same videos because those videos actually dominate the public consciousness. Use the word “algorithm” here and you can practically see their eyes glaze over through the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:34 PM

I also follow the r/cooking subreddit and they manage not to have daily freakouts whenever some tiktoker posts a ragebait video of them dumping a bunch of random frozen and pre-packaged food into a crockpot and calling it a recipe. Yet somehow this sub always falls for the banana in the tailpipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:28 PM
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Not necessarily. Washington (or your local political capital) is full of well-known, very unsexy, awful people with a knack for flattering individuals and small private groups enough to win votes. There are douchebags who can get away with being douchebags not by being nice, but by knowing how to socially engineer people into liking them in spite of what they do. Not to go off on a tangent but because I know where this is going: the problem with this group is whenever it thinks of assholes with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:45 PM

Don’t get a dog to get pussy. Dogs are living beings that need genuine care, not a fast pass to sex. And for the love of god don’t LARP as a tough guy if you’re not a tough guy. You’re gonna get tested and the embarrassment of getting exposed as a poser is going to set you farther back than if you just did you the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:51 PM
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Emulate is just another word for posing. And posers don’t last long before people spot them. Don’t be about a life you’re not really about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:56 PM
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Unless you’re just not an asshole. Because nothing is more cringe than a good guy acting like a movie villain because they think it’ll get them something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:12 PM
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And yet half the people who agree with this conclusion turn around and argue for those men to continue to be nice for seemingly no reason. It’s contradictory and keeps this “nice guy” misconception going when we should be eliminating it entirely. The reason to be nice is because a trash world needs nice people. And if that doesn’t float their boat then the reason to be nice is because that’s what they are—if they genuinely are nice. But the best reason is that there shouldn’t be a reason to be n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:11 PM
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She’s hot, she wants to go on a date, prob hookup, but acts like a bitch. This is a movie fantasy of the shy nerd getting his world rocked by the hot mean girl. In reality if she wants to go on a date and hookup with you—assuming she’s not just going the extra mile for a paycheck—then she likes you well enough to not be a bitch to you. And if she is a bitch to you yet somehow wants to go out with you then she’s crazy and men who stick their dick in crazy pay the price for it. However, the ugly o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:54 PM
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So I could spend time with a bitch gambling that, with enough work, she’ll stop being a bitch to me or I could spend time with a decent girl who I know is decent. There are a lot of bad bets in the world and this is right there among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:27 PM
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Then don’t be nice. Most genuinely nice people don’t feel such a burden that they lash out about niceness when they don’t get their way. So if being nice is that much outside your natural state then just lean into being a proud dick. You better be physically attractive or charming to compensate for it though or you’ll just go from “that nice guy I’m not interested in having sex with” to “that asshole I’m not interested in having sex with.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:24 PM
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Is there a gun to my head? Because passing on both is always on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:19 PM
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You’re talking about two different sets of men…for the most part. Let’s be clear: haters of any thriving industry are always a loud minority. I don’t care if it’s porn, gambling or fast food: most people are apathetic or at most casual consumers and those who are enthusiasts are too busy enjoying it to tell the world about it every day. You’re left with those who hate it and can’t wait to tell everyone they know about it. And even then consider your environment. You’re not gonna see a bunch of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:21 PM
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Somewhere in between. It’s a joke that left its humor at home but I’m not running to the divorce attorney either. Instead of overreacting over a sense of “disrespect,” I think a well-timed pointed “joke” about how you’d leave your wife for Sidney Sweeney some time in the near future would set things straight. Not right after she shows the sign because that’ll make you look butthurt. But in passing after enough time has passed as if you just assumed that making those kinds of jokes is okay in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:32 AM

A life experience that consists entirely of consuming TikToks and online rage bait articles does wonderfully horrific things to the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:51 PM
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Well since most guys are having sex without money or promotions trading hands then his point is utterly pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 AM

Couldn’t pass fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:50 AM

Oh no! Not 1 in 5 women! What are men to do, pursue the other 4? Nonsense. Also, this (The women who said that are likely the high earners) Is a bald faced assumption to make you feel better about pre-jecting yourself. Would be worth pointing out if calling “game over” because of one in five women weren’t more ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:08 PM

Sounds like a case of pre-jection. Guys with that mentality either never pursue hot independent women because they think she’ll reject him or they do, she rejects him and he thinks it’s because of “lack of respect” when she either doesn’t want to pay for him or just doesn’t like him. And the kicker is because guys with this mentality can’t handle being rejected alone, they think the woman rejects all guys for this reason. Easier cope than not being a match. Simply put: rich girls aren’t some ali…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:01 PM
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It’s always nice to be into a thing. If they’re tacky rings then it’s tacky. If they’re tasteful rings then it’s tasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:12 PM

Yeah. I think this all comes down to contentment. A lot of guys here don’t want to admit it, but they carry a lot of reverse hypergamy where they need women to be worse off than them, by a significant amount, to feel comfortable. At the same time they balk at the struggles that come with that: feeling like you’re only valued for your paycheck, being stuck in a job you don’t want, spousal support after marriage, etc. At the same time still they chase conventionally attractive women who have the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:56 PM

You make it sound like every woman you meet is some highly paid executive. There are still middle class and working class women that, provided you are middle class and working class too, you probably make more than. Plenty of women who want to be stay-at-home and provided for. If you don’t want/feel inferior to a woman who’d rather pay for herself, stop chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:15 PM
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You know things are going well for you when you start equating sex with “paid work [people] don’t enjoy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:53 PM
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He said that he didn’t have to do those other things though, not to mention the dismissiveness with which he treated those other things brought up by the person he’s replying to. Meaning that he’s only interested in being attractive for his body. Treat the body as a mere foundation and you may get “blah blah blah”ed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:46 PM
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What’s your point? Try to make it relevant to the conversation at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:29 PM
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That’s a nice ambition. Of course if you want to be attractive just because of your body then you’re going to attract women who just want a great body. Meaning you need to be prepared to keep your body in immaculate shape for pretty much your entire sex-having life. Most men find carbs delicious, though, so they simply take decent care of their bodies and then learn the guitar or some shit. Same destination, different path, so good luck with all…that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:16 PM
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You said “whatever you say, whatever you do, it’ll be perceived as funny, sexy cute…” That’s extreme so excuse me for assuming you’re thinking in extremes. But then you go on to just describe regular flirting and flattery. So please pick a lane. Because thus far you’ve undermined every silly pop-culture-influenced misconception of attraction by also accepting gestures that are damn near reasonable and commonplace. A lot of men, dare I say the majority of men, have been in situations where women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:09 PM
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It’s being so physically attractive to her, that the rest don’t matter, or don’t matter much. Whatever you say, whatever you do, it would be perceived as funny, sexy, cute...that much. And that happens, but not to the majority of men. You’re putting a lot of preconditions on something that should’ve been proven when she got naked and started fucking you. If you want the type of woman who acts like an overly expressive childish anime character, that’s a different issue. But if she acts like a reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:34 PM
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They’ll flirt, they’ll dance, they’ll do whatever’s appropriate for the environment they’re in. They may even have sex on the first date. Those are already demonstrations of visceral attraction, and that’s enough to satisfy the people in this sub preoccupied with it, at least is enough for me. If the bar for this fabled visceral attraction is something that millions of men have already met and has launched millions of relationships (short term, ONS, long term, and otherwise) then I’m sorry to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:25 PM
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If the bar for attraction you guys are talking about really is that realistic then I’m sorry to say it’s not as rare as you’re making it out to be. “Finding your partner truly physically attractive”? That’s what the sex is supposed to prove. As I suspected, this mentality indicates self-sabotage by not believing a woman is attracted to you even as she’s having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:18 PM
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There are people in this thread expecting the treatment that groupies give movie stars. They see the craziest of women reacting to the most famous men in the world and want a regular ol’ girl to treat regular ol’ them that way. That’s extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:13 PM
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For women, much less common, but I think that’s because few men have the kind of looks and demeanor that trigger that in women. (Men like Henry Cavill and Michael B Jordan do.) So I don’t believe it’s a case of them not giving, it’s a case of it not being triggered, because it’s a reaction. This is being starstruck, not attracted. If the redditors want to try to be rich and famous to get the celerity treatment from groupies, knock themselves out. But somewhere in the world there’s an accountant …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:01 AM
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And I’m talking about men and women. That’s the point: there’s no use fretting about not receiving that kind of attention because there are few people who give that kind of attention in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:49 AM
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You know what we call those “few people”? Sex addicts? High-libido? Low impulse control? Chads. Alphas. The top percent of men. It has always been TRP stance that life for the average chump sucks. Oh. No, that’s what Reddit calls them. The real world calls them outliers. Not necessarily anything to strive for because most people don’t want to be walking around in a constant state of uncontrollable lust like a real-life version of Quagmire from “Family Guy.” I for one see normal men’s lives as ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:48 AM
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You’re describing depression, my dude, not society. And kids are the absolute last thing that can fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:18 AM
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What do you guys want from us? This sub has been around for years. People have offered every form of support, advice and understanding under the sun and there’s always some new sadsack who doesn’t want to hear any of it and just wants to bitch. This isn’t starving children in Africa who aren’t getting money. These are perfectly fine children in North America refusing to eat anything but dino-nuggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:12 AM
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The thing is rather than listening and engaging people read what they think the OP is saying, not what the OP is actually saying so you end up with a disconnect punctuated by normie platitudes that only serve the top percentage of guys. E.g. “cruise bars bro, wear nice clothes bro, get some aftershave bro” and more. If they’re normie platitudes then they serve way more than the top percentage of guys. But that’s the point: if an OP is so certain that he’s so extraordinary in his predicament that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:58 AM
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Is this brought to us by the same fair and objective statisticians who declare male virginity a global crisis when the actual number hovers around 20-30%, only measures those who haven’t been in a relationship (whether willingly or not) in a year, and clears up pretty quickly the older one gets? First of all, middle school “kids” shouldn’t be in “relationships.” And we’re talking about the stage in life where some develop much quicker and others develop much slower. If you’re a late bloomer it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:14 PM
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Bullies and genuinely bad dudes exist. But most kids in a school environment get along with each other and form their little friend groups just fine. “The whole world is against me” mentality is for weepy victimhood addicts with awful Main Character Syndrome. If everything around you smells like shit then it’s time to check your shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:53 PM
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Uh-huh. Willy the Wallflower has taken the appropriate time and effort to have conversations, make friends and get to know all his peers to accurately declare them terrible druggies, criminals and assholes. Because that’s how the incel-to-redpill pipeline works. Let’s be honest: guys like this hypothetical kid just stand in the corner and assume the worst in most of these guys because they’re jealous of their social success and can’t fathom a reality where his social rival may be just another no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:36 AM
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If I may quote a very wise man: The least toxic part of red pill “advice” is in fact general life advice/common sense. It’s how they get their foot in the door before all the crazy spews out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:34 PM
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The least toxic part of red pill “advice” is in fact general life advice/common sense. It’s how they get their foot in the door before all the crazy spews out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:03 PM
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(Reposting in the appropriate place for my flair) He sounds like he not just considering the red pill, but that he’s already deep throating it on a regular basis. This is basically the mentality of a Fox News grandpa minus 50 years. Unless he goes to the worst high school in the world, he already labels most guys around him with the worst stereotypes imaginable (you can’t actually get to know that many people and still think there are so many awful guys around you). He globalizes the worst possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:18 PM
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Good luck with all that. Yeesh, this is why apps let you swipe right OR left.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:17 PM
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Since someone has decided to post a lenghty rant against porn, I think I should be allowed to offer my input that I’ve been wanting to do for some time. Two wrongs don’t make a right, OP. Are there any crimes being committed? No? Is everyone’s consent being respected? Yes? Then let adults have their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:35 PM

OP’s counter-arguing strategy: ”But here’s the difference: I’m gonna fly face-first into the point and still somehow miss it by a county mile.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:34 PM
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Well that’s a tale as old as time. We don’t need a fake TV drama to prove that. If “pick better” doesn’t work, which I understand because people are good at hiding their true intentions, I’m more a fan of “leave earlier.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:03 PM
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It’s reality TV. The only thing reality TV is an example of is how entertaining weirdos with a fame addiction can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:51 PM

Because rejection in dating isn’t a new concept. It’s literally a tale as old as time. Maybe a mass inability to cope anymore is novel, but even then it’s really just the chronically online who treat it as a crisis. Most men deal with their dating struggles the way they always have: keeping at it until it hits. Seriously, think about how this would look in practice. Are we going to spend valuable airtime doing investigative news reports on guys who strike out on Tinder? Start charity races for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:46 PM

Don’t be cum-brained. You’re responding to a post about what fathers tell their daughters and what husbands tell their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:37 PM
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It’s sexist for sure but I’m unbothered. Part of the privilege of being a man is getting to choose your destiny, especially if that destiny is being the type of man to ignore tired sexist cliches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:51 PM

Yeah. I remember being an overweight shy kid and all the girls dumped their more handsome popular boyfriends the second they laid eyes on me. Classic millennial experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:32 PM

Thank you! You’re definitely set in the right direction, given your post history. Your offmychest activity definitely screams “Has life all figured out.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:09 PM

I just told you: listen to other people, be open to new perspectives, and if someone tells you you’re about to step on a rake, don’t step on the rake. I’ll also add that combatively “asking” for help when everyone knows you’re not interested is a lame look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:04 PM

Well a) this isn’t an advice sub and b) it’s not about age, it’s about willingness to listen. Throughout every generation since time immemorial there have been people who develop their life experiences by being open to other perspectives and people who develop their life experiences the hard way: not listening to others, suffering painful entirely avoidable mistakes, and then acting like they’re the first people to ever learn what they learned. This sub makes it clear who prefers to learn one wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:53 PM

If you want this to be a teen angst sub just say so. For all intents and purposes it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:41 PM

You figure it out! You’re the first generation to determine that the older generations don’t know what they’re talking about. Thank you for advancing society with this fresh take. Thank you for also inventing the red and black pills, as if us millennials weren’t babbling about all that way back in the Usenet days… Oh, and the fact that young women want attractive boyfriends? Genius discovery! I don’t know how it took humanity this long to figure it out but you really opened all our eyes for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:22 PM

Yes, their own rules. Not your rules. Have government make a law that forces government to destroy the data they collected—if not was eagerly given to them by the citizens. Because governments famously love losing access to data. I don’t know which you know less about: DNA tests, the government, or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:15 PM

Ah so your solution is impractical and wasteful! Exactly how much government resources are you looking to dedicate to satisfy each father’s passing curiosity? If you can’t tolerate the long-term consequences of your actions, whether it’s a strained relationship or the government having your DNA, don’t get the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:48 PM

And some men like talking shit and openly fantasizing about being a player with a stable of 20-year-old virgins only to buckle at the first thought of actually returning to these streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:41 PM

I’d love to see a Venn diagram of the guys who can’t wait for the government to have their DNA and the DNA of their children on record and the guys who come up with new anti-government conspiracy theories on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:23 PM

My only question when it comes to posts like this is do you actually mean it? Because if you are willing to sacrifice your marriage for it, cool, I’m all for it. Tests for everyone. But in my experience here, when guys puff their chests out talking about their unflinching willingness to torch the relationship and women say “bet,” the OP’s almost always whine and cry about how it’s not fair that the wives are leaving them. Try not to fold right away, gentlemen!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:20 PM
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can you say with 100% certainty that you wouldn’t do it? You can’t say it because you have never been in a similar situation. I personally think that 99% of men would be rapists in this scenario. It’s impossible to prove your hypothetical behavior so let me just assign your behavior based on the absolutely nothing I know about you, internet stranger. The solution to red pill rhetoric is not Lady Red Pill rhetoric. If you want to start a fight just say so without the mealy-mouthed faux-philosophy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:05 PM
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You don’t have to do anything but pay taxes and die. But seeing this public sneak preview of your whining, chances are you can’t raise concerns in a productive non-cruel way, so yeah: either lie, run away, or better yet never get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:10 AM

Kids aren’t going to take care of you either if you have them and treat them as a retirement plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:48 PM

The difference between a Chad and someone women call the police on isn’t so much attractiveness as much as it is that Chad knows how to present himself as someone not likely to chase strange women around with his dick out. If you’re made to feel “dirty” for having sexual desires it’s because, one way or another, you made women think of you as a guy who wants to fuck them instead of…well…anything else. Social skill, young men!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:46 PM
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I’m exaggerating for effect, because the only way my post can have anything resembling relevance is if I rely on hacky internet stereotypes that make single men look pathetic and shabby. And because nuance is a four-letter word to me. Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:00 AM
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If you can identify only one person with a years old idea, take it up with them. Trying to make a bunch of strangers defend a take they had never heard of from a person they had never heard of is a tremendous waste of time. I swear some of the OPs here just post new threads like they’re trying to meet a quota.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:36 AM
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Some guys just want a body to nut in, even famous actors from the glamorous old days of Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:13 PM
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Well I guess if you want a conservative trad girl you’re gonna have to face conservative trad girl problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:09 PM
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Not really though. Maybe some high inhibition women, but that’s more an issue with them being high-inhibition. Solution: find women who aren’t afraid to have sex with guys they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:22 PM
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You are allowed to send a reply or a DM to the person you’re online fighting with. No need to make a whole new post. I’m making this post because I’m going to apply it to real life soon. This line is PPD-ese for “I need to be put down for a nap but not before you hear my tantrum.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:33 PM
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My policy is I’ll say the right thing given the information provided ONE TIME and if you don’t like it, then suffer. I think you’re overestimating how much we actually care about the weird text strangers on our phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:28 PM
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Apex fallacy for me, but not for thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:39 PM
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You can do everything right and still not get the results you’re looking for. That’s life. Meeting people organically is a function of opportunity and luck. The more opportunities you create for yourself, the better your chances of getting lucky one day. Might not be tomorrow, might not be this year. If there were a guaranteed step-by-step plan this sub wouldn’t exist. Interestingly, you described the factors of luck and opportunity involved with meeting someone organically in your story. So you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:39 PM

You either have a lot of strictly gender-divided social circles that somehow both allow you to hear their in-group conversations or you got all that from hacky social media “comedy” videos about how “mEn AnD wOmEn ArE dIFfErEnT.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:42 PM
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It’s always the short gamer who’s nice to women but doesn’t have any dating experience. Always. And it’s never the tall handsome guy with a big dick. These OPs don’t fool anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:59 PM
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The super-logical STEMmies in this sub don’t even know how to isolate a variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:53 PM
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Going back to the criteria set in this thread: Are most women “lying in the fetal position…unable to function…lost and helpless…incoherent anger at everything and nothing…hanging out over the abyss with no way back?” If so then you may want to check the address outside your front door because you’re living in the psych ward of a hospital. And that doesn’t change what I said: you’re not going to find a lot of supportive dating prospects in a psych ward. Unless you’re one of those who thinks a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:23 PM
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Well…do you really trust someone with untreated emotional instability to support your emotional struggles? This is why addicts are encouraged not to date—and especially not date other addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:38 PM
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I think a low level of emotional intelligence keeps a lot of young people (young men primarily but also a lot of young women) from understanding the difference between vulnerability, temporary struggle, longer-term struggle, and crisis in need of trained professional intervention. The upbringing of young boys certainly doesn’t help matters. Their mothers, fathers, sisters, and brothers keep them from expressing pain in all matters because crying children are inconvenient and old models of mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:12 PM
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Homie, nobody is ready for the stuff in that fourth paragraph. The common person is not at all capable of dealing with that extreme of a breakdown from someone else. You’re underestimating how accustomed we are to emotional stability from those around us. You’re not describing opening up, you’re describing a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:38 PM

Heartened by the top level replies. Has this sub finally had enough of the internet illiterates? We’ve needed to stop treating their fears of clickbait as legitimate for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:24 PM

It’s real the same way crazy people ranting hateful stuff on a street corner is real. They exist, they’re loud, and they draw a crowd. But the extent to which their existence has an effect on your life and sense of reality is up to you. You’re always better off just walking by and saving your energy for non-crazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:18 PM
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Frame this response for any redditors who think there’s some kind of social conspiracy against masculinity. The call is coming from inside the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:19 AM
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But I don’t want to live like a woman or think like one. So if those are the only two option. 100% I would choose the option not to think or look or act like a woman. This is only true if you think manhood is defined not just by not being a woman but also by being in direct opposition to women. That’s a rigid and frankly exhausting way of thinking. Fortunately manhood is much easier: it’s basically living your life…as a man. That’s it. Whether you do it similar to women, not at all like women, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:55 PM
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You literally said what I said a different way. Maybe if I had a stroke. Someone else != the majority and it definitely doesn’t mean just women. What, you think I’m going to ignore or condone asshole behavior just because it came from a fellow man? That’s what you guys aren’t getting. Gender isn’t a team sport and if it seems like miserable men can’t get ahead in life it’s because there’s a strong coalition of women and men who don’t want to be support them—for good reason! So let’s you investig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:29 PM
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Nobody’s asking anyone to bow before women. Just don’t slur the gays, don’t touch people who don’t want to be touched, and aspire to be a generally decent person. How you go about it is your choice. But if you find that too hard then hey, your societal oppression has been well earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:14 PM
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Or, is it possible that modern intervention models treat boys like defective girls rather than tailoring them to boys unique psychological profiles? And what do you think a boy who would actually benefit from those interventions would think to hear a man say that he used a model for “defective girls”? What of boys who don’t relate to your definition of “boys’ unique psychological profiles”? The divide is being maintained by rigid definitions of masculinity and strictly enforced lines dividing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:11 PM
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Part of the reason this dearth of empathy exists is that too many men have abdicated their responsibilities. The men who are wounded by this brand of toxic messaging don’t speak up because they are afraid of the backlash, especially of being “canceled” or widely attacked on social media. They fear being labeled (unfairly) as extremist “Men’s Rights” apologists. And the men who do speak up rarely do so in a productive way. Too often they shrug and pretend not to care, and instead take their griev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:58 PM

Maybe “Women don’t like when men act emotionally” has meant “Women run away when I yell at them for rejecting me” all this time…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:23 PM

Usually the phrase “The beatings will continue until morale improves” is used blithely, not as a genuine solution to chronic dry-dick. You’d be a terrible defense attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:14 PM

“Badgering” institutions for voting rights and a place in the workforce isn’t quite the same as badgering institutions for more dates. So perhaps the first thing “we” do is find an issue that’s more worthwhile of public support than making sure RedditBro42069 gets his dick wet. Funny thing is once you identify those issues you’ll probably find that the agreement and support is already there. But again, it’s about important stuff, not just to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:12 PM
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Now you’re at the top of the “top.” Maybe wait for a decent sample size before you let loose the “aggrieved PPD bros” signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:46 PM

If you’re thinking of things like attention and time as things you begrudgingly sacrifice in exchange for a relationship, maybe you just don’t like relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:36 PM
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I suppose if the woman shows signs of emotional maturity in her own right. Seems like most of the women who hate when men are human are those who cannot handle the discomfort of real life themselves. Those who still think in fairy tale ideals, those who openly demand stereotypical machismo. Definitely those who never faced real adversity in their own life. How can you be vulnerable around someone who has never had to stand on their own two feet? But those things are hard to identify in strangers…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:21 PM

Is “sexhaver” a new Chronically Online slur you guys cooked up? Please let it be so. It would be great to have a term so clear yet so self-reporting all over Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:40 PM
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We’re not talking about her deigning to let you peck her on the cheek. A make out, at least among all the women I’ve been with, includes at least a little groping. Not sex, mind you, that’s an entirely different conversation. But once you get to the point where tongues are inside each other’s mouths, you can get a little more handsy. And here’s the beauty part of it: if you’re with a girl who doesn’t want your hands a certain place, she’ll say no, ask you to move them, or just slap them away. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:12 PM
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Sometimes wives can be domineering—especially the kind who sees the wedding as a finish line and can start letting out their toxic traits as soon as the vows are said. But here’s another thing, and you can consider this a lifehack once you start slowing down: wives also make a convenient excuse when you just…don’t want to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:51 PM

It’s like you guys are physically incapable of holding two unrelated thoughts at once. You were doing a good job understanding there’s no direct correlation between moral character and sexual success (i.e. being a nice guy in and of itself isn’t sexy), but then it all fell apart when you strawmanned that women wanting good men should mean a mass sexualization of children’s television personalities. I’m sure Steve did well for himself by virtue of being a normal guy with some measure of fame. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:16 PM
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How do you expect someone, who's been going their entirely life being told that touching a woman without explicit consent is sexual assault, to inexplicably break that conditioning? Nobody’s being conditioned to believe that. Just because women don’t want strangers grabbing them doesn’t mean they’re trying to keep your poor wittle self from making out with a girl who HAS shown explicit physical interest in you. The only way someone doesn’t get that is if they don’t know the difference between a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:02 PM
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Some guys here feel more gratified playing Victim of Feminism than actually having a physical relationship. That’s fine, no shaming here, but they need to be honest with their priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:56 PM
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Grabbing an ass when you’re already making out isn’t what they mean and you have to know that. Don’t blame others for your inability to know the difference between a woman you’re already making out with and a stranger at the gym who doesn’t even know your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:19 PM
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So do you have to leave all knowledge of how words have meanings at the door when you check into the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:54 PM
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Problem is most of these guys will either do these things in the wrong order or think that you should do it before she even knows your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:52 PM
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The chart is a beautifully designed mess of mental word salad and I'm not going to waste 22 minutes of my life figuring out the only thing I want to know: What does this twerp think are "bad boy traits"? Because I bet, just like every other time the "good guy/bad boy" dichotomy gets mentioned, "bad boy traits" end up being simple innocuous grown adult shit. EDIT, I just noticed: What made me truly believe this chart was correct was I had a 2nd date with this woman (my now gf). We were getting al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:46 PM
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The only person who needs to love you unconditionally is your mama. The rest of the world demands payment upfront. In a relationship context, that means everything from the obvious like don’t be abusive to me to the practical, like avoiding self-destructive behavior and generally being the decent person you were when we started the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:45 AM
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I’m glad you have a pet cause, but I sincerely doubt the growing wealth gap, climate change, and the human propensity for war—you know, real societal problems—can be traced back to women wanting to choose who they fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:21 PM
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“Act like you’ve been there before”: not just advice for sports, advice for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:21 PM

Before you tell me “just because you’re literally a perfect specimen by all measures doesn’t mean women have to like you” save it, that is a tired deflection and we all know exactly what is going on. If you’re dismissive of elementary school-level truth then you’re not interested in learning anything and just want to emotionally masturbate your self-pity in front of an audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:49 PM
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Just because some advice is out of touch doesn’t mean all advice is out of touch. Context and understanding of the present reality matters. Old people can still be aware of AI resume crawlers and offer valid career advice, just like millennials and Gen-X’ers who have been out of the dating scene can still offer valid dating advice just by being aware of human nature and what’s going on in the world. But most importantly: young people, since time immemorial, have always dismissed good, relevant a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:04 PM
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The only time I ever insist on not being alone with a woman is when I’m working as a photographer shooting a female model, and that’s mostly as a professional curtesy for the model because our industry is trash and every model who has worked long enough has a horror story. But the fact that I’ll either have a makeup artist or she’ll bring an escort anyway obviates the need for any awkward insistence. But when I’m in an office or a friendly social setting? Get out of here. This is again where I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:51 PM
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It’s not “every source,” though. It’s one source: Gothamist. I knew it before I clicked your link. It’s the only “source” to mention this. Every other one is quoting from Gothamist. No corroboration. No eye witnesses. No evidence that “manspreading” is even in anyone’s criminal code. If a woman claimed that a rape happened using the same level of proof, you’d be calling for her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:30 AM
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Public opinion shapes laws. That's why they arrest men for manspreading in NYC trains They don’t. The facts and details sounding that are dubious at best, based on a “report” of heresay that was never proven and only ever had one article written about it that was signal-boosted by only the worst-reputed, scare-grandma-on-Facebook outlets ever. 2015-ass scaremongering…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:03 PM
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And how is that supposed to help men, that social ostracism is rare? I don’t know, the same way airline passengers are helped by knowing plane crashes are exceedingly rare? If you’re so bothered by a remotest-of-remote chance that you’re going to be legitimately ruined by being a genuinely good person, the solution is the never go outside again, not make society take responsibility for your fears. Once again: real, proven assholes are doing just fine. Why aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:58 PM
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Wrong, your reputation could be ruined, your livelihood could be ruined, you could be socially ostracised. I’m sure you could scour the news and find a stray “man bites dog” story where someone was legitimately ruined solely by public opinion with no extenuating circumstances whatsoever (a detail many people who try to do that neglect). It’s sad when that happens but it’s also rare. To keep this conversation practical and useful, the fact is you’re not going to be left eating cat food under a br…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:35 PM
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If you were looking at both sides of a judging system I wouldn’t have had to make an entire first post to get you to see situations where women can also be judged harshly in the court of public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:20 PM
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People always expect the court of public opinion to act like a court of law while missing two key words: “public” and “opinion.” Personal biases and personal experiences will always play a factor. At least the worst the court of public opinion can do is say a few bad words, not haul you off to jail. You remember a time where men were hunted just for spreading their legs trying to be comfortable on public transit Over dramatic? Ignoring context? For someone who doesn’t understand the court of pub…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:10 PM
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I guess I’m not understanding how this set up helps you achieve that goal. To make an idealized older man you had to set him against a poor(er) less attractive age-similar man. That alone should be some indication why older men are generally unattractive. Wouldn’t a more productive experiment be a younger guy who has a good thing going for his age vs. an older man who has a good thing going for his age? The young guy has less money but more hair, older guy has more money but less hair, etc? Get …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:39 PM
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The intent of asking this question is to attempt to isolate how much age alone affects relationship desirability for younger women. Then why have you changed half the variables between each man? What insight about “age alone” are you going to get by making one man richer and more attractive than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:27 PM
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OP only gave sentence-long descriptions of each candidate. How the fuck deep do you think the analysis is supposed to go?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:11 AM
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They really are: Oh, you’d rather pick shit A over shit B? I knew you loved shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:02 AM

Goddamn I’m glad I don’t have some of y’all’s brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:42 PM

Shithead take, but I’m glad the NFL and the Chiefs didn’t take disciplinary action against him. Last thing we need is another professional victim crying about being “cancelled.” In the court of public opinion though he’s FAFO’ing. Message board culture has made a lot of people feel comfortable with bringing their message board opinions into the real world. He has allies but he has a lot more people mocking him (see the LA Chargers schedule release video) and not a single solitary woman actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:17 PM

I mean, ugly people still get dates. Everyone has a type. Go to Walmart blah blah blah. But people also have to understand that they’re not going to be everyone’s type—and sometimes it may just be a matter of the physical. Going back to what I said, most people realize that at a very young age. Others refuse to accept it and make things worse for everyone. Some adopt weird personas and tangents about being a hunky dude hounded by fat women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:14 PM

When I was in school, attractive girls went to the dance with attractive guys, unattractive girls went to school with unattractive guys and everything in the middle. Yeah, they went with unattractive guys as friends. Either the guy both parties understood the deal or he one party asked the girl other out a second time and got put on to the truth of what she really thought of him. (sorry, edited because I just remembered one of the few times I had to turn a girl down—it definitely works both ways…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:01 PM

Denying it is a defense mechanism, developed in the aforementioned school dance days when some boys made it clear that they did not take being told no well. Women don’t deny they care about looks. They may deny they only care about looks because who only cares about looks? They may talk about other qualities in the interest of painting a complete picture of what they like. But if they do downplay their interest in looks, trust that it’s not a denial as much as it is a euphemism to keep from bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:54 PM
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You’re never going to get an accurate assessment of your appearance by just giving your stats on an online forum full of people predisposed to hating you. But more to the point, most people don’t really care about the nuance between body fat and frame size. They just see what they see and decide if they like what they see. Not everyone has the linguistic aptitude to articulate what they like or don’t like, so you’ll probably get people saying “fat” when they mean “large” or “muscular” or “built.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:32 PM

It’s not the generalization, it’s the whiny bitching. Every man realized that women want attractive partners by the time their first school dance came around. Most men handled it normally: Oh, they have eyes just like me? Okay, cool. I’ll just get more attractive. Others, of the more…”cel”lular variety, flipped over tables, threw tantrums, and swore revenge on every female-presenting thing on the planet. Negative begets negative and now you have the situation you see today. The fact that women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:25 PM
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Guys are sex-obsessed if you sample young men and virgins, who have too much sexual energy/frustration and not enough actual experience to regulate their relationship with sex. Guys are also sex-obsessed in the mind of hacky comedy writers who needed a companion to “women be shopping.” The point is the “horny man” caricature is both a social construct with some roots in reality. It’s also a funny and harmless concept to think about—at least it was until a bunch of dudes started to make it their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:23 PM
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The world may not change based on my claim of non-violence but this meme likely caused a significant amount of young men and women to develop discriminatory attitudes about each other for the sake up “feelings” that only occur when prompted by a abstracted hypothetical. A.k.a. Proving the point. Women, who are already on high alert of violence by virtue of being women, aren’t suddenly awakened by anything brought up in some few-weeks-old meme. The only people who seem moved by this are men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:12 PM
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This is the danger of over-intellectualizing dumb internet hypotheticals. This entire discussion is pointless because I would never willingly be out in the woods alone. But if I were, maybe due to a plane crash or a kidnapping attempt, I’m telling you where my mind would go. More importantly, I’m giving you my personal reason for my personal sense of safety. I’m not saying my answer is the objectively correct answer, just what would make me feel safer. And who the hell are you to tell another pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:47 PM
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Yeah, and I don’t want to make friends with strangers who lurk in the forest. And I doubt they want to make friends with me. This isn’t about general populations. Context matters: to a bear, a forest is its home. You’re literally on the bear’s turf. I get that, and understand the risks involved with getting in a wild animal’s territory. For people, the forest is a place you have to make a deliberate effort to go to, usually because you want to get away from people. And if you’re making that retr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:29 PM
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I’d choose the bear simply because I don’t trust any human being just hanging out alone in the forest. I sincerely doubt I’m going to hear the same amount of pants-wetting crying and moaning about my choice, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:58 PM
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Oh yeah, the internet is probably a bigger public space than public space now, sadly. But the people who dream up these silly questions and have reactionary hot takes about them—the Comment Section Class, if you will—are undoubtedly weirdos. They’re the people who 50 years ago would be babbling in the town square about brain aliens or jumping uninvited into bar conversations with, “Well you know what I think…” Unfortunately the internet provides a centralized place for them to congregate and amp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:08 PM
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The women realize that now and are just trying to see how far they can go. I fully expect “Should we revoke men’s voting rights?” to be a serious—well, ”””””serious””””” debate topic by the end of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:47 PM
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Well the best answer to that question would be to not answer the question. The second best answer would be to ask clarifying questions (What kind of bear? Who’s the man?). The worst answer is anything you contrive to look good for anonymous internet weirdos. Guess what: people who hate you are going to find a way to hate you no matter what you say, so you might as well always speak your mind and stand on that business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:43 PM
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Instead of gender, we should make people list their past relationship traumas in their flairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:01 PM
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Do you guys think every destination that isn’t your front doorstep is Love Island? My girl’s idea of a vacation with friends is a camping trip, which, as someone accustomed to indoor plumbing, I wish them the best of luck with. At least I now know how they feel about the prospect of running into a man there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:57 PM
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Pick me’s preferred methods of “siding” with men usually make us look like dumb emotionally stunted children. I almost hope they’re conning their audience because any woman like that in real life just undoes all the work I put into my reputation as a functioning adult. They’re even worse for our “cause” than a million misandrists. After all, with friends like that who needs enemies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:02 AM
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For both sexes this is a really really weird thought experiment. How am I supposed to know what women need to ask when each woman has different priorities? She can ask about my thoughts on kids/marriage/religion but if she’s childfree/doesn’t care about marriage/genuinely indifferent to religion then there’s no value on my answer, no matter how honest it is. You could ask about past relationships, but that depends on how much importance the woman places on the past. The best broad-reaching quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:27 PM
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Not everyone wants to live in a suburban McMansion, my guy. If all you have to think I’m mediocre is the place I choose to live and zero recognition of humorous banter then I dunno what to say. Maybe you’d have a better time showing why the DEI boogeyman is bad than guessing if a Redditor is happy with their life based on two lines of text.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:10 PM
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Aw, let the kiddies have their nonsensical fantasies. It’s not like they’re gonna find comfort in another person…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:35 PM
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I said no such thing. Not even sure how someone could get that from what I said. See, people getting jobs despite this kind of poor reading comprehension and critical thinking is why DEI exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:31 PM
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Ah yes. “Muh DEI.” The mating call of the mediocre who can’t cope with not being able to build a life off mediocrity anymore. Your rant is proving my point: that it makes sense for those who are the target of scorn for merely existing in a place to want to congregate together for mutual support. If you want to gather a professional networking group of mediocre people, I’m all for it. It’ll probably suck and need fixing by a doubly talented woman or brown person, but you’re free to try, slugger!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:09 PM
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I’m answering a question. If you’re mad at the premise of a thread you can just not read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:49 PM
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On the other hand, women getting people to state such an unhinged take out loud is masterful trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:16 PM
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Shit like this is why women are never going to beat my one-person unilateral allegation that they’ve become the internet’s best trolls. One stupid thought experiment has grown into weeks worth of ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:52 PM
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Go for it. As someone who faced a lot of gym anxiety when I started getting into shape, it sucks when any kind of social pressure keeps us from working out the way that works best for us. If you can make your ideal gym at home, go for it! (I say, crying in one-bedroom apartment)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:45 PM

If you’re attractive, regardless of sex, you’re probably going to be more confident, meaning you’re more likely to strike up conversations and be friendly with strangers. And, given the choice, you’d probably want to associate with more attractive people than not, so the friendships with other attractive people are pretty much served up on a platter. I mean, let’s not forget the root of the word attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:05 PM
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If women have more access to gender-specific spaces like women-only gyms or professional networking groups, I’m fine with that. I can expect to get a pump in unharassed pretty much anywhere I go and I’ve almost certainly been moved forward in a job-seeking process just for having a male name on my resume so of course women should buddy up whenever possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:55 PM

How some of you are able to keep friends long enough to have these “conversations” is beyond me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:43 PM
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Is it just me or, for a sub that specializes in stupid-ass question, have the OPs been asking particularly stupid-ass questions the past few days?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:18 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:21 AM

“Yes, we are all aware this is fiction” -Person who clearly isn’t aware this is fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:12 PM
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I think there are several reasons including being so bereft of personal meaning that the only way you can find it is through being a “warrior,” evopsych bros convincing them that the best way to prove their genetic worth is through dominance in battle, being so far into The Good Ol’ Days that they idolize men who had no other choice but to fight and kill other men, and, of course, to prove that they’re Not Like Those Other Guys who want to avoid dying violently on some battlefield. Oh, I almost …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:07 PM

Lot of replies for an OP who’s clearly here just to hear his own voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:27 PM

People in those subreddits aren’t interested in facts, they’re interested in finding company in misery. Anyone representing the opposite is a deceiver conspiring against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:54 PM
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No, facts did a pretty good job of that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:25 PM
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There’s no pill that promises you’ll be forced to marry women with undiagnosed debilitating neuroses surrounding sex and pregnancy. Like if you need a pill to tell you to avoid that, you’re too stupid to function yourself. Are foreign passport bro women somehow immune from having mental issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:23 PM
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It’s either written by a young guy with Nice Guy Syndrome or an older woman with Boss Babe Syndrome. Because this is where it is I’m guessing you want us to say woman. Or for us to say man so you can say “Gotcha! It was a woman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:03 PM

Did the people who made up the “concerts don’t count if it’s in a small venue” exception also create the “it’s not sex if it’s only in the butt” rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:55 AM
3

1, 3, 2 though I’m not thrilled about the idea of having kids. 2 seems like a nutcase though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:28 PM

This entire thread is a demonstration of the difficulty of being in a relationship with someone with “serious problems.” Yeah, there may be some semi-compatible souls who will try to enter that person’s orbit. And they may even be successful maintaining the relationship for a time. But eventually the push-pull of trying to extract some peace and cohesion from someone who—for whatever reason—can’t give that is going to be too much for anyone. And they’re either going to end the relationship or su…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:12 PM
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People hooked up on MySpace Iike people hook up on IG now: if they have the attractiveness to do so, which not everyone did/does. Either you ran with a particularly sexually active crowd in school (good for you) or are looking back with rose-colored glasses. There definitely were millennial incels who spouted pill/alpha/masculinity garbage among their incel friends in high school. Ask me how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:03 PM
4

Younger people are dumber, and those who have fallen behind socially will consider every explanation and solution possible, even the dumb ones like pill theory. And then they’ll grow out of it either through life experience or by finally getting a partner. You know, just like Millennials did when they were younger. Because pill theory has been around for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:53 PM
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For the same reason we “force” people who are at fault for anything else to pay their share of the damages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:33 PM
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Yeah, that’s what these gender-swapped arguments tend to be. Very rarely do people in good faith try to discuss X by talking about a hypothetical and unrelated Y. I used an extreme—though far more common than you seem to want to admit—example, but it’s true too many how mundane the “well…if the genders were reversed…” is. As a matter of fact, that ridiculousness is what makes the satire in OP’s video work. When people do it for real though it just becomes sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:45 PM
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It says that you’re either paying too much attention to the wrong people or you think the broad social discourse about capital-E Equality drills down to the pettiness of which party pays for a date when nobody outside of the date cares. You’re getting too lost in your own pet causes to think that the word people use when they discuss employment opportunities, voting rights, social justice etc. also dictates who does the cooking and cleaning in a relationship. Most people are happy to chalk these…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:26 PM
-8

The video in your post is just satire. I don’t think they were trying to say anything particularly profound or argumentative with it. In most cases people use the argument a distraction from the topic at hand. It’s lazy and transparent and you should only respond by requesting they raise the argument from scratch elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:56 PM
6

It’s not a continual practice but I have in the past: sad movies, death, random panic attacks. It was no big. I was comforted and we moved on with our days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:39 PM
8

The gender that gets more opportunities to be standoffish is going to be more standoffish. I live in a big city with a lot of charity canvassers who aren’t afraid to walk up to you and ask for money for their cause. They’re honestly more persistent and annoying than the homeless people. And the only way I can run errands outside is by avoiding them, refusing eye-contact or literally hand-waiving them away. Every day. Now canvassers are equal-opportunity pesterers, but if they only approached men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:04 PM
3

We’re seriously pretending there aren’t a lot of guys here who idolize these podcast clowns and cry over the type of girl these clowns knock up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:50 PM
10

These are the type of people y’all are so pressed about emulating or attracting?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:33 PM
3

How the fuck do some of you hold down jobs the way you’re in constant pants-wetting fear of women setting you up to be fired for reasons? You’re not that important. You’re probably never even thought of at work. If women ignore you in social settings they’re definitely not going to look your way in the office. Get off your crosses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:16 PM
15

Considering how hostile society is toward trans people just for being trans, it’s more reasonable to assume their loneliness is more for being trans than identifying as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:54 PM
41

Gonna be interesting to see how many guys get high off their own supply of Alpha High Value Male rhetoric and wind up with their fake internet bro friends as the only ones left who can tolerate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:51 PM
9

Inability to distinguish fantasy from reality seems much more toxic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:32 PM
20

Just one example. The old, the obese, the single parents, whatever they don’t find attractive they conveniently also don’t count as “women” when talking about their standards. And even if I was only talking about people 30 years older, if the female delusion calculator dings women for not wanting 55-year-old short married dudes, the Redpillcel delusion calculator has to count 55-year-old fat single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:42 PM
42

Most men have standards, whether they want to recognize them or not. You, in theory, can make a progress telling your preferred dating gender “I don’t have any standards for you so stop being so damn picky,” but put them to the test and you’ll find new “buts” real quickly. Here, I think a lot of men also have an implied bias where even the word “woman” only brings to mind the attractive young lady he would like to bang. The woman who’s been working at the post office longer than he’s been alive,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:57 PM
4

Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette. If a girl you were in a relationship with suddenly decided she didn’t want it, would you be all easy-breezy about it? Remaining miserable and unsatisfied because you’re afraid of “getting yelled at” is the textbook definition of “through fear or complacency” of my earlier comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:50 PM
3

“Hot but doesn’t know it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:05 PM
1

If I disagree with this chart, say, by believing 7 and 9 should be flipped-flopped (seriously, I’m more attracted to a smiling face than the neutral beauty photography look), what happens? Do I face criminal prosecution? Does my credit score go down? Or is it just that Redditcels muster up the balls to tell me my personal preferences are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:27 PM
2

A less mature person might respond to that by posting that happy-mask-in-front-of-a-crying-wojack meme. But I’m too lazy to look it up more mature than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:23 PM
1

If all the people using the system are in agreements with the ratings, then it is effective. Found the disconnect!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:18 PM
5

The replies to the video and also my thread yesterday where the women were incredulous that a girl ranked herself a 6.7 (thus making their own '10' self ranking look LUDICROUS) Uh-huh, sure, that’s why. I can smell red pillcel “logic” from a mile away. People can get carried away with the toxic positivity, but trust me: this hyper-competitive backbiting is just men with low self-esteem seeing how people with higher self-esteem think and freaking the fuck out. But because I want to be a model of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:16 PM
3

You’re reading too much into it. There’s no conspiracy theory, just a human desire to feel good about oneself. Some people do it by elevating their self-perception at no expense to others, others do it by trying to drag everyone else’s self-perception down to meet them. Bet you don’t know which one is healthier… This “sisterhood” (are they in the room with you right now?) doesn’t give a shit what some stranger thinks about themself, so long as it doesn’t result in them being a dick to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:47 PM
3

Any scale that “measures” something that can only be evaluated on subjective judgement is useless, seeing as it’s wide open to biases and personal preferences. Point system, percentiles, round of applause, it doesn’t matter. You’re looking for some oracle of beauty to give definitive answers and hierarchy for…reasons, and no such power exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:39 PM
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People are pretty upfront about what they get out of rating themselves a 10: self-esteem, confidence boost, rhetorically flipping off people who ask dumb questions, etc. What I want to know is what other people get out of shitting on strangers who just want to make themselves feel a little better in this trash world? Oh, your arbitrary scale with no real grounding or consequence is calibrated differently from someone else’s arbitrary scale with no real grounding or consequence? Sounds like a YP.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:24 PM
11

This is like a religious fundamentalist political organization asking what they can do to make me donate my money to them. Sometimes the answer is there’s nothing to be done. Go find someone else more receptive to your cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:12 PM
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The friend zone exist because some men don’t know how to extricate themselves from relationships they don’t want. And it’s easier for them to say someone else “put” them in a zone than to admit that, either through fear or complacency, their situation is of their own making. Your premise is so obtuse that I hope it’s deliberate to make some bad point. You can’t possibly believe that being a good friend in and of itself should make you romantically attractive every single time. Tell me you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:08 PM
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Are you trying to pillsplain another stranger’s emotional experiences? This place is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:16 PM
3

Do you think self-loathing makes you more attractive than a little bit of self-esteem would? If not then this post is pointless and you just want company for your misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:44 PM
5

I dunno…sounds like a lot of excuse-making to defend a woman you like. Not saying that you’re wrong, because it’s very difficult to be wrong about this. Just that your allies in “shitting on American women” might disagree and think the hunting and building are so inherently unfeminine that it’s part of her demeanor. They’re not exactly the nuanced type, y’know. You obviously don’t need to defend an opinion you disagree with, but this thread wouldn’t exist if you realized it’s all a matter of opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:50 PM
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It’s almost as if femininity can be expressed in different ways and attraction is in eye of the beholder. I love when crazy people realize their crazy allies aren’t always in lockstep. Makes for a great crazy-off!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:10 PM
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Because there’s not a whole hell of a lot a guy can do to get sex if nobody wants to have sex with him for free. This isn’t struggling to find a job or your next meal. This is women allowing you to penetrate them—they either want to or absolutely don’t. You can’t negotiate that down and you’re not going to move people to give it to you as a life-or-death proposition. So your only other alternative is to pay for it. Or get over it and just be sexless, but a lot of guys here don’t want to hear tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:41 PM
2

Young women under a certain age are often attracted to young non-threatening looking pretty boys. See every boy band since the Beatles. That this particular flavor of popular boy brand is Asian is just because kpop as a music genre is big. Really. It’s you guys who have been fixated on the supposed attractiveness of Asian men since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:36 PM
2

I’ve been out of the dating game for years but if I had come across this sub earlier in life I would’ve felt so good about my chances out in these streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:07 PM
11

When the alternative is this it suddenly doesn’t become a surprise why some guys clean up…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:29 PM
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I mean, they can be neurotic and anti-social if you’ve never tried to date a neurotic and anti-social woman before. If you have and still think that’s not a dealbreaker then that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:02 AM
8

That’s where I am in my post-30s life. 20somethings are still lovely to look at, but I want to figure out my 401k distributions while sitting in my comfortable chair because I’m sore from sleeping, not be a side character in some TikTok or a clinger on while my partner still tries to figure out what she wants to be when she grows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:12 PM
14

You did a subtle scope shift in your first paragraph. Manosphere men are the only ones constructing this concept of the wall. The reason you think it’s odd that “women’s attitude is wrinkles schminkles” is because you forgot that most men aren’t manosphere men and also think things like “thirties schmirties.” Especially as they get older. Even if they find younger people most attractive (and that could be a big if), most people still manage to find those around their age attractive enough to obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:24 PM
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If they say Mardi Gras made a difference they’re lying because, except for a few of them wearing beads, nothing about this reads “Mardi Gras.” This could’ve been a cookout, a graduation party, or a super casual wedding reception and they’d still have a problem with it because it’s women outwardly expressing joy and using their bodies to do so in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:34 PM
4

Bingo, you’ll never know heartbroken disillusion like the man who has built up a whole narrative of his “type” of girl and sees that type in real life behaving differently from the caricature in his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:21 PM
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Internet culture is built on people not liking when strangers enjoy themselves. Well-adjusted people gave/would give these dweebs a dismissive jerking off motion and let these women be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:24 PM
1

You can paint an orange red but it still doesn’t make it an apples-to-apples comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:40 PM
1

Wouldn’t care at all. We joke about the other person watching porn all the time if it looks like we’re doing something private on our phones. And in seriousness, even if we don’t know when or what the other person watches, I think we’d both find it a little odd if the other never watched anything ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:38 PM

Near as I can tell, it’s the same flavor of insecurity as men who fixate on their partner’s “past.” Some people can’t handle the idea that somewhere in the world someone beside them exists who their partner may find sexy as well. If they could, they would pluck out their men’s eyes to eliminate that risk or at least invent some kind of mental chastity belt to control their partners’ thoughts. At least it’s not all women, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:41 AM

In fairness to them, most men would rather nobody know that they masturbate. They know nobody cares and it only makes them look bad. That’s why they’re discreet about it. But because it’s the literal topic of this conversation I have to say: you know those pornhub viewerships numbers aren’t just ghosts and accounting errors, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:47 AM

I’m not “backtracking,” I just didn’t think I needed to explicitly say that I’m against sexual assault and consent violations just because I want to defend people who watch porn. Do environmentalists need to spend every other sentence denouncing eco-terrorism? Do meat-eaters need to have “PUPPY TORTURE IS BAD” tattooed on their heads to avoid confusion? But then again, your position that “everyone who has watched porn has watched porn where people are actually hurt” betrays the fictitious world …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:41 AM

Truth be told, I don’t find mainstream porn my cup of tea either. But I’m not gonna begrudge others their methods of getting off alone in private. Don’t ask me about mine and I’ll happily never tell you. God knows I don’t care about others’ masturbation habits. So long as you’re happy and don’t snap and lash out due to pent-up repression rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:27 AM

Is there really no sense of moderation with you people? It’s either never-think-about-anyone-else-ever or must-lay-out-all-their-fantasies-in-explicit-detail. Has nobody ever had a normal relationship? Any guy over the age of, like, 16 should no longer be under the delusion that he’s the only one his SO could ever find sexy. And if you haven’t reached that point, just look at women’s sex toys for five seconds. To be bothered by that reality is pretty egocentric and, as a man with functioning eye…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:19 AM

Can we please bring back words like “dealbreaker” and “preference”? This dating landscape can’t take a generation of people running around acting like everything they find personally distasteful is some act of violation against their bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:08 AM

I don’t want to minimize because I get how touchy insecurities can be, but just for my own mental health I don’t want to go around in a fantasyland hiding from the fact that my SO thinks other men are attractive. I for damn sure won’t pretend I don’t find other women attractive. We’re humans. The measure of a relationship isn’t how dedicated you are to ignoring the attractiveness of others, it’s about how dedicated you are to keeping the relationship alive and worthwhile. I mean, it’s not like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:46 AM

I care a lot more about her actual behaviors than whatever fantasies get her off. I have enough experience with paraphilia, kinks, and fetishes to understand that real life and Sex Goblin Mode can be very very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:21 AM

Not really. I’m not under some delusion that I’m the sexiest man she’s ever seen nor do I think she was sitting in a state of lustless stasis her whole life waiting for me to come along so she could realize what attractiveness is. We’re adults. I know her celeb crushes. Some are handsome, some are kinda weird looking IYAM. World keeps spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:09 AM

If my boyfriend told me he was thinking about other women while jerking off, he wouldn’t be my boyfriend. And I’d probably feel comfortable telling everyone why I dumped him. Here’s the million-dollar question: do you feel entitled as the girlfriend to that knowledge one way or the other? Because that’s the crux of this whole debate. A lot of women are acting like they deserve to dictate what their partner thinks about during masturbation—or if they even masturbate at all. That’s the real sick b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:36 AM

I must’ve missed your questions under the unhinged ranting. Let me read again… Oh, yes. Sexting other people is bad. If I had made a post defending sexting other people my face would sure be red right now! But I shouldn’t be surprised that the person who has spent the whole thread making porn out to be worse than a million holocausts wouldn’t know the difference between actively sending pictures to others and looking at pictures already out there—or more relevant to my op—making up the pictures …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:22 AM

No one knows what anyone is thinking unless they share it. So you’re cool if your guy has a vivid imagination and a great memory of real women he’s met and combines the two to make his own fantasy porn? I find it hard to believe that someone who goes that hard against porn use is actually okay with any kind of masturbation thinking of another woman but if that’s your compromise, that’s a start. I guess. Porn use is different. Men will often hide it because they know it will hurt their partner to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:33 AM

Goddamn. Here I am thinking that it was just a few minutes of imagined sexual fantasy to take the edge off. Little did I know I was setting a relationship on fire by abusing women and literally cheating. I guess it’s good to know that the male incels aren’t the only ones here whose self-consciousness forces them to catastrophize a pretty mundane reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:17 AM

I actually agree with the first part. But I disagree with the extent to which porn or sex “messes with your brain.” Honestly I think that’s a cope from guys who resent how little sex they get and women who are self-conscious about how much prettier professional models are. Personally I think a healthy sex life is possible between two people who actually enjoy sex with each other and don’t overinflate the importance of their past or privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:59 AM
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Are we living in a world where everyone is compelled to share out loud every thought they have? Because that would actually explain a lot. The word “private” has been used a lot already. What part of that don’t you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:19 AM
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I thought I had already addressed this but I will do it again: there is no justification for creating, seeking out or consuming porn where real people are actually hurt. But that’s not in the same galaxy as, say, an independently run OnlyFans where the girl decides what she wants to do for how much for how long. Conflating the two is an easy and disingenuous tactic people use to shame any type of masturbation and sex work. And if you don’t want people to pleasure themselves then at least say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:15 AM
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This is getting into splitting hairs. The only difference between fantasizing about a real-life person and building a spank bank is just a matter of long-term memory and organizational skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:10 AM
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They probably do need help if their thoughts are that dark. But one thing is for sure: shame isn’t help. And telling people to not think about it isn’t either. Something else that’s for sure: the number of people who are caught acting on their bad thoughts is far far outweighed by those who simply have the thoughts and would never act on them. That’s just practical reality. And unless you want to start adopting Thought Police-like policies, a person who isn’t doing anything wrong should probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:07 AM
1

I dunno, my rule of thumb is if the issue wouldn’t be an issue if the jacker simply had a photographic memory then it’s not an issue. And yes, I know where that’s headed: deliberate creepshots are a shadier gray area, for reasons I cannot perfectly articulate. Perhaps going back to actions vs. thoughts. Sort of like checking people out at the gym, if you’re so bad at it you get caught doing it then you deserve the hell brought upon you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:48 PM
2

Sigh, please don’t turn this into a lesson between figurative and literal language. Most people masturbate not because some lack of self-control takes over and physically compels them to but because they have an itch and see no problem handling it in private. They don’t capital-N need to, just like people with sweet tooth’s don’t need to eat the occasional donut. But there isn’t some weird morality police trying to shame them for eating a donut so they eat the damn donut and nobody cares. Mastur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:16 PM
2

Sex is a two-person job, but sometimes you gotta nut and the second person is either not around or doesn’t exist. Enter masturbation: a solution to a problem so simple that it should be trivial. Boy it sure would be nice to work out this crick in my neck. But all the masseuses are closed for the weekend. Ah well. Don’t bother with the Theragun right next to me. I’ll just live in discomfort until Monday morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:58 PM
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I’d call that sexual incompatibility and yeah, you’re right, it’s annoying. But this was during a relationship when you two were already intimate, right? And I assume this was during a period where you two were still discovering what the other was into? If so then that’s ultimately just a crappy way to find out you two aren’t for the long haul, not some moral failing or act of violation on the part of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:53 PM
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Thats where my girlfriend and I are. We both enjoy each other yet we also retreat to the stuff that the other isn’t suited for. It’s a good system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:47 PM
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They are in reality watching videos of people being hurt. Do you think that would be okay if it wasn't sexual? If they are being hurt. Which is a big if. If these people are willing and enthusiastic participants in ethical porn or, to tie it more to the other thread, figments of the masturbator’s imagination, then nobody is being hurt. Do you think it should have some special protection from criticism that nothing else gets because it's sexual? A lot of things get special protection from critici…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:46 PM
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I don’t think most healthy people consider masturbation as an override of self-control. It’s just a thing one does for pleasure/release/mental clarity/what have you when nobody is around in private. This is what I mean by shame and stigma clouding one’s sexual health. If you think a simple and innocuous action is a matter of self-control you are never going to have a healthy relationship with your own sexuality. Bad enough when people like those in this thread try to impose it on you. Why are yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:40 PM
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I don’t have stats for this (because I’m still not gonna put in that effort for this place) but I have to think the difference between the amount of porn consumption in this society and the instances of actual sexual assault/dysfunction begs to differ. I mean, there are a looooot of porn watchers and wankers out there of all genders. If the effect was that significant the world would literally be burning around us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:59 PM
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No, I’d break up with her. Partially because of the porn thing but mostly because she uses the word “boundary” to give her opinions more gravitas than the more accurate “dealbreaker.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:51 PM
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There is a huge huge difference between what someone thinks about in fantasy land and what they seek out to watch in reality. Yes, I’ll say it: so long as you don’t cross the rubicon into real life you think of whatever sick shit your little imagination needs. In fact I have no doubt that some (emphasis on “some”) people’s capacity to imagine alone is what keeps them from acting out and actually harming others. For them, we shouldn’t shame them, restrict them or otherwise make them feel unsafe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:48 PM
1

That sounds like an awful way to go about life and, if true, an understated cause for the deteriorating relationship between men and women. Even if every man who ever saw you jerked off to you in private (and come on, let’s not get full of ourselves) worrying about it would take so much time for something you can’t even prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:41 PM
5

Come on, this conversation is done all the time when guys try to misuse therapy language too: a boundary sets actions you don’t want done to you. Control is what you want don’t want others to do independent of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:35 PM
1

You don’t have to be part of a kink community to be inspired by their progressive ideals on sex positivity and kink-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:32 PM
2

You don’t have to be part of a kink community to be inspired by their progressive ideals on sex positivity and kink-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:32 PM
3

It’s the lack of slickness that’s the problem, not the masturbation. A man who is discreet about his masturbation poses no threat to you. Source: most of the men you already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:30 PM
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I can’t possibly care about what men masturbate to because it’s not my dick. Yeah, if one said to me “I masturbate to your mom” then it’s a fight on sight because actions > thoughts. But if he does and never utters a word about it then it’s Schroedinger’s Pervert and not worth my mental energy. Thanks for being discreet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:27 PM
3

Simple enough that I did it. And if your man likes to think of XYZ in his private time then a: it’s none of your business and b: you wouldn’t know anyway. Those two facts alone should be enough to dull the heat on some of these takes, and yet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:23 PM
14

Your answer doesn’t make a lick of sense but this could be a recurring theme in this thread: what you think and what you do are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:20 PM
5

What if a man also thinks “despite what I get off to, I wouldn’t act in a way that harms others or violates consent”? Because that’s what most men think and that supersedes their kinks and masturbation habits, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:19 PM
5

I have been in social events with kink communities where what you jack off to was considered getting-to-know-you small talk. It’s one thing to have an opinion but they would be dismayed that an opinion could be so deeply negative. They don’t play with the shaming. We show more grace and understanding to the monsters who put pineapple on pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:17 PM
1

Hey, that’s great. I’m not here looking to shame or be shamed. I’m all about whatever works for the individual, so long as it doesn’t harass another individual. That being said, when you think of all the different paraphilias in the world, is it really that surprising to think there are also several different ways people may want to get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:35 PM
2

Yeah, “being normal” is understanding that everybody is different and deciding to be your normal self all the time instead of crafting your every word for what that individual on the other side of you might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:30 PM
0

Honestly I think masturbation is like flatulence: everybody does it and there’s no harm in it. But nobody is as interested in your own as you and you’ll never go wrong just…not talking about it. EDIT: That being said, a lot of ladies in this sub sure get judgy whenever the topic is brought up. Bet you wouldn’t like if we took a peek in your mental jack shack.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:02 PM
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Not all friends are created equal. You have to gauge your chances based on how she treats you. I’ve had female friends I knew for a fact I had a good shot with if I took it based on how they would soft flirt with me. I also had female friends I knew I had no shot with because of how they only kept it platonic. Neither case is guaranteed success because people gonna people. But it’s all about playing the odds and—OH NO!!!!!—reading social cues. It also means facing the harsh reality that your hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:37 PM
17

Have you considered being normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:51 AM
1

Oh no, I don’t approach strangers at a coffee shop. I meet them online and we agree to go to a coffee shop for a date. When it comes to in-person ask-outs I had fewer results but those I did were with people I knew from class or dance group, that happen to also be alcohol-free situations. I guess the bigger picture is no matter how you want to ask out there are actually more non-alcoholic situations and places to facilitate a good first date than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:25 PM
3

Some of my best first dates in terms of getting repeat dates and relationships started at a coffee shop. Maybe I just draw in non-drinkers (which would be odd since I don’t mind the occasional drink) but I’ve never once felt or been limited by non-drinking. Once you get out of college/youth you’ll find more people who don’t drink for whatever reason and nobody says boo about it because it’s pretty weird to judge another grownass man or woman for something so trivial. Of course, if you’re most at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:35 PM
6

Oh I get that it’s said a lot, but it’s still not true. Even the guys who say things like “balls empty, belly full” would be dissatisfied in the long run if they didn’t have any good friends or family. Or a comfortable bed. Or a general sense of purpose in life. After all, Grubhub and hookers are relatively cheap. Every guy with a decent job should be on cloud 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:44 PM
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That’s why this sub is fun to gawk at but should never been mistaken as an accurate cross-section of society. It calls for clarity from OP: is a misconception about a gender that is accurate for the weirdos here still a misconception?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:34 PM
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That men are simpletons who can’t understand emotional nuance and just want food and sex to achieve the pinnacle of happiness. This misconception comes from both inside the house and from the female pick me community. No clue why. Perhaps because certain people who are tried of being adults are trying to get their whole gender to get treated like children again? Perhaps because having a reputation as The Woman Who Understands Men is way more tempting than actually understanding men? Either way i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:13 PM
28

We don’t even have a roomba that can reliably avoid walls without giving up and shutting down and you’re out here complaining about the lack of realistic discount fuckdroids?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:06 AM

This post is very “unreliable narrator.” All of your observations are based on things you “notice” on social media, calling into question if this is an actual social trend or you making up a theory and looking for proof. I mean, the whole thing sounds like word salad, but from what I can gather/guess, social media posts about relationships get more engagement because relationships are inherently more interesting than the musings of a random singleton. People find any mistreatment toward a seemin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:33 AM

Oh come on. Nobody believes that. “Trophy Wives” are specifically beautiful young women men dump their existing partners for when they achieve some level of success. Just consider the word “trophy.” People revere trophies for their beauty, not their utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:32 PM
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You can’t even get your weird hypotheticals straight. Your guy isn’t choosing to stay single over an unsatisfying relationship. He stayed with the woman long enough to marry her and have a baby with her yet somehow didn’t realize she would get stretch marks…which was apparently a dealbreaker for him the whole time? But that’s neither here nor there. What you’re talking about is a guy who would choose to stay single over starting a relationship with a woman with stretch marks. In that case, go of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:47 PM
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I’m sorry, would you like me to get into the highly complex nuts and bolts of avoiding relationships with people who don’t like you? I love when people restate common sense in an attempt to reframe it as some kind of lazy condescension when they just unwittingly gave the exact solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:38 PM
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Wait, there’s a lot going on here. Is your gripe about criticisms of pornography, the accessibility of dating apps, women having standards, or the fact that no relationship is better than an unsatisfying one? You’re grinding a lot of axes here. If you could narrow it down to one it’ll be a lot easier for us to tell you why it’s a bad point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:24 PM
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I think you omitted a word somewhere because I don’t know which SO you’re referring to. But if this is going the way 99% of these threads go then you’re either hung up on the literal exactness of the term “50/50,” which, let’s be adults and realize that 47/53 in some areas in 53/47 in others is functionally “50/50.” Or you’re projecting a desperation that causes some people to get with partners who clearly don’t like them, which isn’t a problem for people with standards. Get standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:16 PM
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Over-defensiveness. It’s one thing to take practical safety precautions on a first date like meeting in public, but when you think everything said to you is a scheme to get to something else, you’re not ready to date. Being asked about your job is sometimes just a form of small talk, Ryan. Sometimes the guy is genuinely interested in getting to know you, Jen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:29 PM

Good stuff. This is what people mean when they say “take good pictures.” Appearance matters but the little things can make a big difference. Of course, instead of editing pictures so one looks thinner or has a different facial expression, actually losing weight and being more intentional about the type of pictures you publish is more sustainable and won’t get you people pointing out that you don’t look like your pictures. Like you mentioned, getting editing/facetuning/filtering addiction will ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:25 PM

I’ve seen Moneyball too, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:34 AM

There’s a difference between risk assessment and total risk avoidance. We wouldn’t have left the cave if we had the same amount of risk avoidance guys here exercise to justify never honestly asking a woman out or pre-disqualifying a woman they like before talking to her or believing all women wouldn’t like them because hypergamy or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:47 AM
1

Calling someone “porn brained” still doesn’t make the idea of spending significant amounts of time and sex with someone you don’t particularly want to spend time and have sex with sound good in any way. Would you like if someone went down to the post office and just plucked out a mate for you from the people in line? Apparently there’s more to life than liking who you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:31 PM

There were those points. But I kept pushing and eventually got through it. Dating isn’t like that. I don’t know what else I have to tell you. Dating is exactly like that. Source: self. I’ve lost count of how many girls I asked out in person/on apps who said no, ghosted me, or gave me pity dates that were doomed from the start until they started being genuinely responsive, before they started going on second and third dates, before sex happened, before LTR’s started happening. It’s a slow process…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:40 PM

Then I have no idea how one can’t cope with dating struggles if they have experience struggling elsewhere. Was there not a point in your academic or sports journey where you felt you were putting effort into nothing? Did you not eventually succeed with persistence and learning? Experience is supposed to build on itself. “Struggle with Task X…Persist at Task X…Slowly figure out things about Task X…Finally Succeed at Task X…Use that same process with Task Y.” Not “Struggle with Task Y…WHAT AM I SU…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:22 PM

“Don’t worry about it so much” is valid advice for any problem in which one finds themselves at an apparent dead end. In your example, people aren’t being advised to stop sending resumes. But if you find your day is consumed with cold calling, following-up, and stressing over the fact that you didn’t get a callback at the exact minute you expected, yes, you definitely need to step away from the process and catch your breath. And my last few jobs were secured in times where I actually throttled d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:12 PM

My theory (because I’m not actually going to deep dive into an academic study of this bullshit) is that the issue isn’t men being told “no” a lot in dating, but that their first experience of consistently being told “no” was in dating. If you take what these anonymous Reddit avatars say at face value, they all excelled in academics enough to blow through higher education/trade training and secure high-paying jobs at younger ages compared to their peers. So academically, how much adversity did th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:01 PM

I agree. I’m seeing a lot of failing to cope with adversity from these men. Their entire worldview is based on strict avoidance of anything that might risk the slightest possibility of being hurt—and mistakenly believing that’s the right, logical way to live a life in our painful reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:38 PM
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Yeah, good luck silently tolerating day after day of suspicion that you’re cheating with ChAd and resentment that you wouldn’t have dated him in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:27 PM
6

And why is dating who you’re not attracted to a “good thing” again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:25 PM
6

So she has to date guys she’s not attracted to AND she can’t even expect an attagirl for it? Sounds like a raw deal when compared to just dating who she wants and tuning out the begging.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:06 PM
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And if she weren’t cried at for having standards nobody would be in this situation. Beggars and choosers and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:33 PM
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We can’t have it both ways. If we establish that we can’t force women to be less shallow [jerking off motion] then we can’t complain about it ad nauseum. And if a woman does take this whining to heart and tries to be less shallow then we can’t bitch about it. I mean, we obviously can. It’s done on a daily basis. But the only people who look bad are the complainers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:02 PM
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“Lower your high standards and give us a chance…NO NOT LIKE THAT!” Whining just to hear your own voices, some of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:42 PM
3

In that situation you may want to investigate your meaning of “getting laid.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:11 PM
10

It doesn’t matter what you saw one time. If a guy actually looks like Ryan Gosling or George Clooney, they’re going be fine and don’t need your pity. The just world fallacy is thinking an attractive man should never face rejection ever. The just world fallacy is thinking that women are better off automatically accepting the advances of a man you like even if she personally doesn’t like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
1

Because they were not the thing that the entire story up to that point was built around. Suddenly making them the thing the hero gets—especially after that hero just failed to achieve their real goal—is a let down and waste of time. Imagine a superhero movie where they establish who the main supervillain is in the first act. Then for the next two hours you see both the heroes training and pursuing this villain while we also see the villain doing the most heinous villain shit possible: tearing do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:39 PM
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This is what happens when you sacrifice storytelling to make a point: you end up with a bad story. Unless it’s based on a true story, nobody wants to invest the time for a movie or book to watch the hero fail or settle for something less than their stated mission. You set up the stakes and the goals at the beginning so you’re either satisfied when the goal is achieved at the end or heartbroken by the failure but heartened by the hero getting something more interesting or better in the end. And n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:17 AM
0

Do you also think people who say “have a nice day” actually care how the rest of your day goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:59 PM
0

This is a disastrous idea. First of all, small children make mistakes when they’re learning something. It’s bad enough trying to get them potty trained, introducing them to the concept of flirting and sex before they even hit puberty is insane. Speaking of which… The reason why sex education isn’t introduced until kids are older is because there are some things that need to be discussed at some baseline level of maturity. By the time kids are ready for practical sex education, they’re not going …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:56 PM
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Not everyone is as invested in saying the exact words to help you get laid as you are in interpreting others’ words as instructions to get laid. Most people just want to give a platitude to a friend who’s down and move on with their day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:42 PM
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We can’t even publish a story about two people of the same sex who are married without creating a firestorm of rhetoric. But even if that wasn’t the case, are you thinking there should be children’s stories about the happy little duck who uses verbal and physical flirting to get the happy little ducklette wet enough to smash?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:30 PM
3

It’s like watching people who think wrestling is real do all the crazy stunts they see on TV without any of the hidden tricks used to make it “safer” for the professional performers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:14 PM
5

They don’t have any wildlife documentaries about them?! Get on that shit, David Attenborough!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:30 PM
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Some of them do, I think a lot don’t, though. Young people have dumb thoughts they think are serious and can afford to turn people down based on trivial shit. Again I remind you of those who absolutely believe that astrology can predict good matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:44 PM
7

CMV: “beta” is the male “ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:38 PM
7

Men have been conditioned since the beginning of time to tie their sense of identity to how much they make. You can see it now when teenage boys who don’t have two nickels to rub together are shamed into taking some TikToker’s “investing” course so they can make millions in a week. For those who take this conditioning too closely, they think they’ll be the most attractive if they have enough money to single-handedly support a family. They then project that mentality on women. In fairness, some w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:47 PM
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Every man, woman and child should be using this moment of “ick culture” to dunk on these silly girls for publicly overstating their trivial dating pet peeves. It is truly the dumbest thing they’ve decided to embrace since the original astrology fad. Unfortunately the sad lonely boys ruined this opportunity to mock their enemies by being over-analyzing buzzkills about it. I’ve said it before, but Seinfeld handled the concept of icks perfectly almost 30 years ago. Laugh at the fact that anyone cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:27 PM
2

Teen girls (a whole TWO of them, for the record) spending their time hanging out at a courthouse with writing on their palms? No, they’re the picture of mental stability! Frankly, I think not stalking serial killers outside of their trial with writing on your palms should be diagnosable in the next DSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:03 AM
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Let me guess, the opinions expressed on these topics that most agree with your worldview are also the ones that coincidentally don't paint a person as a "tantrum throwing child". How shocking. Hmmmmm…publicly browbeating women for not lowering their standards to include you while whining constantly about “Chad” vs. not doing that. Yep, one and the same, totally deserving to be treated alike. You’re absolutely right. Or maybe the entire concept of debating is just triggering for you? Now you’re j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:25 PM
2

This isn’t a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with me. Take a look around here—or if you want to focus your direction, search for hot-button issues like height, nice guys, empathy or hypergamy. This behavior is an indisputable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:13 PM
5

When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:46 PM
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Yeah I’ve heard “Women can’t stop talking about them so of course they want to fuck them” though in fairness the most common “reason” they like to cite is the groupies famous serial killers get. Because guys with impeccable social skills know that mentally ill women who send fan mail to prisoners represent normal female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:34 PM
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It’s not a closed sub. You can participate if your brain is broke or if you’re just entertained by the ravings of those whose brains are broke. “Look at you, with your healthy perspective on life and decent relationships with women” isn’t the burn you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:33 PM
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You know, in a different better timeline I would’ve thought “Guy Who is Convinced Women Don’t Enjoy Sex,” “Guy Who Doesn’t Understand Why Women Have Rape Fantasies if They Don’t Want to be Raped in Real Life,” “Guy Who Thinks Women Want to Fuck Serial Killers Because Women Listen to True Crime Podcasts,” “Guy Who Thinks Sex Bots Will Make Women Obsolete,” and “Guy Who Posts This Exact Thread Every Other Week for Months Now” were caricatures. But PPD has shown us a sad sad reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:29 PM

If you already know something then not concerning yourself with StUdIeS purporting to be related to it isn’t ignorance, it’s refusing to waste time. And if you do drown yourself in studies while getting no closer to actual real-world benefit then you’re not “understanding” anything, you’re just engaging in pseudo-intellectual navel-gazing. Sex and relationships happen on grass, not paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:53 PM
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I mean, every other OP in this sub throws himself into rage fits trying to understand women while getting no closer to his goal of a date, let alone understanding. If advice posts were allowed here that trend would only skyrocket. This isn’t the behavior of socially competent men, is it? If the imaginary AI sexbot fits…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:46 PM
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You’re taking the business part too literally—which is odd considering I’m talking about giveaways and the recipients’ perspective. It honestly doesn’t matter if it’s a pizza place giving away pizza or hippies giving away free hugs. There’s always going to be someone who will turn down your offer even if they enthusiastically accept something similar down the street. That’s the point, business vs. non-business be damned. And if you need to individually discern prospects like you’re describing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:07 PM
8

Well in fairness the average pizza knows better than to ignore an entire post just to make an unrelated tangent railing on women and minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:27 PM
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How so? Mind you, “Wanting one thing != wanting something similar but different and some people don’t want it at all” should be a simple enough concept for adults to grasp but some people need learning aides like analogies. So please help me better explain life to the people who post here every day with “Bu-bu-but what worked for HIM didn’t work for MEEEEE 😭”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:26 PM
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Nice derail. I bet a lot more people would mobilize to do something about important stuff like racism and the wage gap than incel loneliness though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:18 PM
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Your analogy is wonky. Local business are selling a product to as many people as possible, and it is incumbent on people to actively seek the product. Spend enough time here and you’ll see that guys absolutely want to sell themselves to as many women as possible. Their entire line of questioning and strategy is based on appealing to as many women as possible. Meanwhile, single women are probably actively seeking a product (a man) but not what a specific man is selling. Most guys cannot just anno…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:51 PM

I’ll light a candle in your honor, u/The-Loop. Women not behaving in the manner one personally feels is appropriate is something no person should ever have to endure. Stay strong. Stay brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:33 PM
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I would like the local pizza place to approach me with a free pizza. But if Papa John’s approached me with a free pizza, in the trash it goes! Meanwhile, someone with severe lactose intolerance wouldn’t want to get approached with a free pizza at all. Life is complicated and full of nuances and dead ends. Deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:18 PM
1

For like the split second I was in the best shape of my life, I tried. I don’t think there are as many options for men as there are for women. And men aren’t conditioned to think of themselves as “sexy.” But when I didn’t feel compelled to wear whatever basic crap would cover my body, I did explore more creative options. But really, as has already been said, male “sexiness” is more in mindset than appearance. What I thought of myself far surpassed any wardrobe or grooming accessory I could get (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:37 PM
3

It’s possible to date a careful woman while allowing her the (relatively short, if I’m being honest) time to warm up and trust you. Just takes a little empathy and enough of a thick skin to not take her carefulness personally. Assuming she isn’t crazy about it like some of the examples in this thread, skittishly running away from a woman who takes precautions doesn’t make you “good,” just unable to handle the reality of dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:04 PM
1

Tempting as that sounds it lacks the beautiful cycle of dumb people with repulsive personalities congregating to make themselves dumber and more repulsive that you find here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:02 PM
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Yeah, it's annoying and kinda pathetic. But at the end of the day it's better for everyone that they're chronically online instead of doing their...thing in real life. Imagine if Reddit died and Bob from Accounting started wandering into the breakroom babbling about hypergamy or AI girlfriends or some weird study about Japanese teenagers' sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:35 AM
3

I'm here to gawk at the freaks. I've gained the relief of knowing that at my lowest moments I could've been a lot worse. If I were single I'd use the knowledge that people like what I've seen here exist and I'd be an unstoppable force of self-confidence with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:13 PM

Yeah, because that’s a thing people like doing to complete strangers. This is why people who complain that “nobody understands them” think that way: because they don’t understand other people. When you walk around in life believing not being seeing as a dating prospect is tantamount to a hate crime then you won’t recognize empathy if it hit you with a bus. It’s extremely difficult to understand others’ delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:02 AM

This isn’t the male experience. This isn’t even necessarily the unattractive male experience. This is the defeatist who doesn’t like dating women experience. It’s always the ones with the shittiest outlooks and most extraordinarily horrible outcomes that love speaking for the “average male.” The average male wants nothing to do with that. But that doesn’t even matter much. OP, what difference does it make if anyone understands your experience or not? You seem the type who would recoil at sincere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:40 AM
3

Not everything you disagree with is related to incels my god True, but if there’s an objection to something that: a) Only applies to women b) Is centered around the fact that they dare show their clothed bodies in public, and c) Accuses them of actively doing something to strangers simply by existing clothed in public You can safely assume there’s a significant element of terminal sexual frustration at play. Or, in short, inceldom. I mean, I guess you could throw the fundamentalist religious peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:50 PM
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It’s not really a gendered issue since most men and women don’t care how each other dresses. It, like everything else, is just an incel thing. Once you get enough women who are so sexually frustrated that they think a man merely having a body is some kind of nefarious conspiracy against them, then we’ll have to pay closer attention to what we wear in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:41 PM
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You’re ascribing a lot more deliberate “strategy” to the average single person than I think they have. Makes sense if you spend all your time in circles that debate dating “strategies” but trust and believe that most women and men aren’t looking to exploit anyone or take some kind of advantage via dating. They just want to find someone to fuck/LTR/what have you while putting in the least effort possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:24 PM

Okay, I sincerely believe we’re not that far apart so let’s cut all the quote nonsense and get to the bottom line. You, my black-and-white thinking friend, seem unable to understand that sportswear choices are a combination of fashion, practicality, and personal comfort, the amount of which fluctuates based on the person. you can exercise shirtless because you get hotter faster than most, because you don’t like the feeling of baggy clothing swishing around while you run, because you read some ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:21 PM

You clearly are making justifications from a poor understanding of sports you didnt play in to justify activities that are way unrelated. Are we agreeing that practicality and safety are factors for determining what athletes wear or nah? Because it sounds like you’re saying the same as me while trying to pull rank on an irrelevant point. By the way, I was all-world in wrestling. Could’ve made the intergalactic games but I blew out my knee. Trust me, bro. And we can all google pictures of the unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:03 PM

Fellas, is it exploitative to use an app for its stated universally agreed upon purpose? This take is somehow half-baked and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:21 PM

Practicality and current fashion determine sportswear more than anything else. If you want to talk about men’s sports analogies, wrestlers need to wear tight singlets. Boxers and MMA fighters are literally shirtless all the time. And we can all google pictures of the unfortunate “nuthugger” days of NBA shorts. And yet nobody accused them of dressing for thirst. Yeah, your links point to the extreme (because that’s what reddit does), but if there’s a sport where you have a competitive advantage i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:10 PM
3

The fappening was the first time at least in the eyes of mainstream society that a violation of that scale happened. You’ll forgive us if 10 years later we can’t muster the same amount of consternation for every celeb leak that happens. Doesn’t mean we approve of it now or think the celeb got what’s coming to them. But after ten years of saying “People who leak nude pictures of others are shit,” what new ground do you think we can tread? Like i said elsewhere: I didn’t even know about the Taylor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:24 AM
1

And if this were posted to the MensLib subreddit everyone would drop what they’re doing to register their disgust at this event (and feminism). Almost like different communities have different interests. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:54 AM
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We’re not even close to realistic (i.e. not some weird Van Gogh-like dreamscape) AI video that we have all the time in the world to edit and refine. By the time we get to realistic AI live videos our children’s children will be on to some unimaginable Black Mirror dating nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:47 AM

Reddit and Fark (because I clearly didn’t value my time 10 years ago) weren’t as heavily regulated as they are now. Even twitter back when you could use third party apps didn’t really do much as far as content controls are concerned. But sure, tell me how a leak so big it has its own Wikipedia page and helped spark two-factor authentication was something you had to “look pretty damn hard” for. As for Taylor Swift, I guess I’ve just been too busy reading about how she’s rigging the Super Bowl to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:44 AM
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I think there’s going to be a lot more emphasis on video as a way to vet and flirt pre-first date. Seems like the simplest solution to circumvent all of the AI aides people are using to make fake pictures and text responses. If you thought the incel rage was at a fever pitch now, wait until they have to get on camera just to say hi to a girl! Also it’ll be interesting to see if young people who seem more invested in news and current events keep up that energy into adulthood. You may end up seein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:45 PM
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Would you be complimented if strange internet dwellers masturbated to you? Because that could be arranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:26 PM
2

Just... no. You're backing up against a wall and straying way off-topic on the principle that I can just look away if I want to. You can do that for everything ever, online or offline. It's a weak non-argument. Actually it’s a fantastic way to live your life. And in this case, you don’t even have to look away from it. All I had to do was go about my business and I probably would’ve never known about it. And now that I do know about it, guess what I’m gonna do: not look. In fact, I would say if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:13 PM
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Well apparently this leak just happened and this is the first I’m hearing about it so either you’re jumping the gun on outrage or those “reduced freedoms” did their job in stifling the proliferation of this video. I don’t think you fully appreciate how far we’ve come since the original “fappening.” I wasn’t even looking for that shit and had to keep my phone away at work because it was everywhere. And boy could people not stop giving their two cents about every single one of them. Now when there…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:56 PM
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Masturbation within reason is fine. One just has to discern what is reasonable for them. Everything “within reason” is fine. That’s the point. I’m not going to feel bad about having the occasional drink just because some alcoholics lose their families due to addiction. And if a teetotaler looks down on me because they misread the Bible or they listened to the wrong influencer or they never learned how to properly cope with a world where alcohol exists they can kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:44 PM
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It's surprisingly easy it is to chalk it up to "the world sucks, deal with it" when a man is being violated. But…the world does suck. If you want to be around people who might be sympathetic to your cause, hang around with people who hate when female celebrities get leaked oh wait you’re currently trying to alienate your allies with lame gotcha attempts. Decidedly not how one should deal with a world that sucks. It's not like I went on some niche dark web gooncave forum - this is Twitter Funnies…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:33 PM
2

Shitty people exist, news at 11. Meta rant: what’s with some people in this sub thinking that because they went some other place that attracts gross people we are to bear responsibility and justify the grossness? Go tell the leakers and bodyshamers to stop if you want to do something productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:05 PM
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I think most men don’t care at all about masturbation—they just don’t want to hear about others’ masturbation. And rightfully so! The subset of men who do have a problem with even their own masturbation don’t even have a problem with the act itself, just what they have worked themselves up to believing it represents. To wit, failure to have sex with a real woman. That is their cross to bear, just be thankful if it’s not yours. Me personally, I’m pro sexual health and anything you can do to be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:07 PM

Buy whyyyyy do all the girls run away when I’m around????
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:03 AM

You seem pretty hung up on this very specific Twitch thing. What’s her name, OP? You can tell us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:02 AM

I've never seen a man with a Stanley, and if there are a few of you out there, you have my sincerest apologies. I guess you never saw any construction workers or hikers pre-winter 2023. It feels like there are multiple examples of this - where women do things because other women do them, with no apparent reason outside of 'other girls are doing it and I want to be part of the club'. That’s how fads work. They leverage our need to be social with FOMO to create a bubble that bursts when people mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:04 PM

Local Redditor Discovers Pop Music. More at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:18 PM

Imagine thinking young women hold the same moral hangups as this unholy incel/conservative/MGTOW alliance Taylor Swift has y’all forming. Nobody cares what you guys think of her relationship history. She makes catchy music, she appears to be nice to the public, and she has all the worst people foaming at the mouth. That’s the makeup of a pop music hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:08 PM
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I hope you’re not surprised that a collection of the world’s saddest men and angriest women said, “The other gender.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:19 PM
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Short answer: yes. Long answer: Online courses and “coaching” designed to separate desperate people from their money is nothing new, but damned if the internet hasn’t taken it to overdrive the past few years. As a rule of thumb: avoid “coaching” on personal matters where the coaches don’t know you personally. Avoid coaching that promises fast results for everyone. Avoid coaching that plays on your insecurities and shames you into giving them their money. You know what? Just avoid online coaching…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:01 PM
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It’s reflective of real life insofar as real life people participate in it (along with a shitload of bots). But the interface, conventions, and “rules” of it are such a weak simulation at best of real life that no reasonable user should expect the same experience if they put down the phone and tried dating some other way. It’s like going to a party and expecting all the same personalities, upvoting, post-and-response conversation structure, and other trappings of a Reddit thread. I’d burn that e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:03 AM
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A misinterpretation so common I’m starting to think you guys do this deliberately. I didn’t say it’s not about looks. I said it’s not “all” about looks. But my bad for suggesting that someone maximize what they do have going for them. I forgot it takes that nasty awful work and creativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:27 AM
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Two reasons: first, it’s hard to communicate the importance of interpersonal history chemistry to someone who has never experienced it before. But more importantly, if you’re convinced it’s all about looks then it’s easier to throw your hands up and not put any work into other traits that might help you out. You want to help, they want to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:34 AM
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Truest thing was when Jerry got an ick when he saw his nudist girlfriend sneeze or choke or something. Everyone wants a hot naked SO until they get a hot naked SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:49 PM
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We need to have some kind of “Seinfeld” reboot so people re-learn that the concept of “icks” isn’t worth losing your mind over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:34 PM

Currently all society does is leave unsuccessful men for dead, spit on them, stamp on them, hurl insults at them, and then wonder why they come back 10 years later ranting about sluts and hoes and pills and plates. No shit. You didn't give them the guidance they needed, they had to go and find some elsewhere, somewhere you consider to be deeply unhealthy for them, for women, and for society as a whole. Hyperbole aside, I think a lot of people really want to offer help to lonely men before they o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:28 PM

They'd be less inexperienced, socially inept, confused, frustrated, and angry if they didn't as often run into people with attitudes like yours, people who willingly exclude them and write them off as disgusting no-hopers who don't deserve help or understanding or inclusion. The attitude comes honestly. It’s not like people are calling for a genocide of all lonely men, but if your loneliness manifests in antisocial actions (i.e. harassment) then bye-bye, sympathy. You get judged by your actions …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:33 PM

Creeps who are so socially broken they need ai girlfriends to stop harassing real women aren’t integral to this “human, cohesive, symbiotic society.” If anything, you’ll probably end up with a more functional society if they were given some kind of sophisticated sex toy to occupy themselves with. Even if we are social animals who need human interaction, we certainly don’t need that type of human interacting with the group. Not everyone can be saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:32 PM
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Damn, it’s almost like being a kid is hell and we should all be happy to have just survived it instead of trying to mold our behavior based on them—or even worse, long for those days like I see some of you guys doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:24 PM
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Yeah, they’re bitching about Ukrainian women getting out of dodge when, if they could, Ukrainian men would (and should) be as well. And then they say stuff like “these women are having a blast on Tinder while the men are getting killed.” like sir, I assure you it’s not fun escaping a war torn country. And you’re probably falling for an AI bot. Just as an example. But yes, when your whole world extends only as far as whether or not you’re getting laid, it does seem like society is in collapse if …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:39 PM
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Oh, no. Things are terrible. Wars popping up all over the place, the wealth gap getting out of control, slow tangible progress on climate change, AI being used and abused to do everything from take jobs to making illegal deepfake porn… …oh, you just mean in the realm of people getting together to date, fuck, or marry, don’t you? That’s business as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:02 PM
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"In Study 2, being male, a bully, a victim, or attractive were all positive predictors of number of dating partners (combining to explain roughly 30% of the variance in the model)." Found y’all’s path to sex! But seriously, two takeaways: it seems like being somewhat memorable to people (whether it be as a bully, a victim, or just good looking) helps your dating chances, which makes sense because who even notices an NPC? But more importantly, the fuck are we going to do with a study of adolescen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:55 PM
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Maybe if your society consists entirely of r/deadbedroom, “dating ick” TikTok, and red pill podcasts. In that case, good riddance. Let it burn. But the world outside of the online gender war is still spinning. People are getting together, hooking up, getting married (albeit later than when it was a social and economic necessity), even having kids (even if it’s not at the quantity and skin tone as some would like…). Thinking that society hinges on your and your buddies’ access to beautiful under-…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:33 PM
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Are you looking for men defending her appearance? Because I’m pretty sure if you just say her name you’ll get men defending her appearance. I’ll start: she’s goddamn gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:51 PM
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Hell, when Suicide Squad came out, guys loved her and called her hot. When Barbie came out, guys trolls hated her and called her mid and immediately got corrected by everyone, including guys. Fixed. I even agree with the idea that men don’t care about the background of a hot woman, but if we cant make a distinction between common opinion and the shit-stirring minority, what are we doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:37 PM
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There’s a whole continent of medium between self-doubt and overconfidence. Yes, there is value in realistically knowing your limitations and what you need help with. But a person who defaults to self-doubt is never going to do anything with their life. In general, eventually, you going to need to be prepared and able to do things—difficult things—with the ability to bounce back should those things not go well. Fools rush in, but shit still needs to get done. I’m about to use the C-word, so every…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:42 PM
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Well I’m using OP’s language but yes, we can all afford to at least aspire to be better than we were yesterday. Especially if you’re a younger person transitioning from childish thinking to real-world adult life. Stagnation and not being open to growth will leave you frustrated and confused when everyone around you starts passing you by. Just because a man is receiving advice for men doesn’t mean that men are on trial or that the broad strokes can’t apply to women. This thread is for a man. Chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:23 PM
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OP asked for advice about being a better man and attracting women, which aren’t necessarily related. So I focused on being a better man since being a better man will have more value in your life compared to foregoing developing an identity to suit whatever some terminally online pill dude says will attract women. OP, if you’re still in this thread, this reply was exactly what I meant: people try to one-size-fits-all life advice to entice people with a facile answer that validates their own fucke…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:44 AM
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Yeah, unfortunately bad actors know how to reach young men better than well-meaning people. They know how to push their buttons and “promise” (emphasis on the quotes) what they want. I also see it a lot regarding financial advice. Adults who have some measure of financial stability will recommend modest investments and a lot of time, but fintokers using aggressive language and promising 10x returns in a few month sound a lot more attractive. Advice #1 to any young people: prepare for things you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:08 PM
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I think the best way to learn how to be a better man is to have good male friends and mentors who know you and can cater their advice to you. I’d avoid any book or website that claims to have The Answer to manhood. How can anyone who doesn’t know you make you a better person? So how do you make friends and find mentors? By giving yourself opportunities. By doing things that put you in close proximity with the same people regularly. Whatever it is you like to do by yourself, see if there are othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:51 PM
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Oh come on. Don’t edge us when we’re this close to an explosion of delusion. Ah well, I’m sure someone else will be along soon to explain how sexual agency is an act of malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:44 PM
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Another misconception you’re demonstrating is thinking that loneliness is a thing people are doing to you, as if there’s some conspiracy to make and keep Sexless Sam lonely. You’re not “getting the shit beaten out of you in the fetal position,” you’re experiencing what happens when people express their right to deny being penetrated by another person. So again: whose responsibility (not fault, just responsibility) is it if they’re in a position that they don’t like but isn’t being actively infli…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:36 PM
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But it's not that simple, because it's not just radical blog posts, it's media, it's institutions, it's everywhere, you can't just not look for it because it will look for you. You’re telling on yourself—and your algorithm. Dating “issues,” such as they are, are nothing but fluff for podcasts that don’t have anything better to talk about and are easily ignored. I swear the only place I hear about any kind of “loneliness epidemic” are here and other sites that are telling me I’m cringewatching to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:13 PM
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If your march toward radicalization could be instantly stemmed by a simple adjustment of your online browsing behavior, you have no real problems. Be thankful and stop co-opting the struggles of people who can’t just tap the “back” button of their very real oppression. Wow, the person who said that sure was on the ball when it comes to predicting Lonely Boy Behavior. Funny thing is even with all the racist anti-immigrant rhetoric on the internet, immigrants aren’t threatening some kind of “radic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:42 PM
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This seems to me to be the position that lonely men are in online. People will tell them they’re evil misogynist rapists – as the articles above did – no matter what. In what is apparently shocking news to a lot of people, this makes them hurt and angry. As someone currently working on learning psychotherapy, I can confidently say that receiving a constant stream of hatred and put-downs throughout your most formative years can really screw you up. And so these people try to lash out at the peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:25 PM
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I for one say yes! And this has nothing to do with my trainwreck enjoyment of reading stories where one party suggests they open up the relationship and getting instantly butthurt when the other party starts outperforming in the open market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:10 AM

This truth is so counter-intuitive and heart-breaking to any genuinely kind soul that it needs to be hammered in again and again. I keep forgetting and making the same mistakes again, because I want to live in a just world where kindness is rewarded with kindness, but this wisdom never fails. I too think kindness should be rewarded with kindness. But not necessarily the right to penetrate another human being. But since we’re exchanging personal anecdotes, as if it means anything, I’ve gotten a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:02 AM
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Aw geeze, another screed attempting to coax pity for Dry Dick by co-opting people with real struggles. You’re not poor, you’re not victims of systemic oppression, you’re not fighting for your life in a game set up against you. You just don’t know how to talk to girls and the blue balls is seeping to the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:56 PM
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Guys choosing their “genuine kindness” as their hill to die on is like restaurants saying their best quality is the free bread. Even Red Lobster, the GOAT of the free bread, put lobster in their name because nobody wants to fill up on bread. And if you just came back from the best meal you’ve ever had, you’re not going to care if you got free bread or not anyway. So stop investing so much on marketing your bread. And the more I see “nice guy” discourse (and I’ve been in the thick of it since I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:48 PM

No, women—everybody—equates boring with boring. Kindness and wholesomeness are neutral, which can be influenced by any other personality trait the person has, assuming they have a personality. You can be a nice guy who takes no shit and has strong opinions about things or you can be a nice guy who has nothing to offer but…niceness. You can tell the choices these guys are making because they think they’re being rejected for the only thing they want to offer women: niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:03 PM
2

Believe what you want to believe. That other person is gonna sleep good that night no matter what you decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:49 PM
3

Peel pack the blue pill and you will see the red. I’m sorry, I don’t speak teenager who never even saw the movie they’re trying to reference. What do you think attractive actually means to most women? The word “attractive” is intentionally vague to keep sadsacks with undiagnosed body dysmorphia from thinking it’s all about face bones. If you can attract women by being hot then you’re attractive. If you can attract women by having charisma then you’re attractive. If you can attract women by being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:37 AM
2

Never in all of my cursed years wasting my life around dating and incel circles have I seen the two rules referred to as that. It’s “Be attractive. Don’t be unattractive.” It’s that simple for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:24 AM
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Well first of all, considering where I am right now, I have to take this with a grain of salt since most guys here think telling a single joke is some kind of Herculean task taking up most men’s precious energy (it’s not). But more importantly, it’s very possible to get sex with minimal “””effort””” by following rules 1 & 2, and neither of them have anything to do with niceness or being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:20 AM
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What, you don’t think “millions of men” have sex while being genuinely kind too? Newsflash: your “observations” are often a reflection of the people you surround yourself with. Decent guys who get sex probably hang around other decent guys who get sex. Assholes who get sex probably hang around other assholes who get sex…or on Internet forums with other milquetoasts who love circlejerking over fantasies of being a BaD bOy for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:03 AM
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I’m not entirely sure what you’re getting at here/want to hear. I mean I can talk about how I’ve started conversations and others have started them with me, but I’m a sample size of one and you don’t seem particularly interested in better, more productive ways to craft your social life. So the bottom line is simple: The most interested party kicks off the festivities. It’s true in business, it’s true in dating, it’s so obvious as to go without stating. But I gotta know, because it might be telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:09 AM
5

OP clearly doesn’t have an issue showing his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:57 AM
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No, I don't think it's on me if woman expect men to lead the conversation. People are going to expect all kinds of stuff from you. If you give into those expectations in spite of what you want (and what I’m getting from you is that what you want is to not have to lead conversations) then yes, that’s on you. Live your own life. Don’t blame other people for your decisions. Unless she explicitly tells me about her interests, I don't know what she wants to hear and nobody who makes small talk reveal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:46 AM
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Women can definitely be boring. I know, I’ve met em. Know what I do when I meet a woman I don’t find interesting: stop talking to them. If you find yourself in a one-sided conversation and still decide to continue with it to the point where you feel like you’re “entertaining” the other side, that’s on you, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:34 AM
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Fortunately most people don’t consider socialization to be a series of incentive structures where you’re consciously putting in effort and weighing the value of being boring vs. being nice. A life halfway lived is enough for most people to not be considered boring by regular people (getting ahead of bitter redditors who want to pretend everyone they’ve ever met is boring to make a point). If one is truly and genuinely so dull that others would rather stare at a wall than have a conversation with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:13 AM

Look at the time. It’s “confuse-nice-with-boring-and-not-boring-with-asshole” o’clock already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:47 AM

Yeah just gloss right over the very real world example of women leaving men who are otherwise perfect because of something miniscule and that they can't change like their penis, right? That just never happens, does it? Heh heh, well if it’s miniscule…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:19 PM
2

If you don’t want to go to therapy, don’t go to therapy. But if a stranger or casual acquaintance gave enough of a damn about you to suggest self-care—even if it was just to get you off their back—and you thumb your nose at them, congratulations! You’ve probably pissed away all the care anyone was going to have for you. Enjoy being ignored and disregarded as nothing more than “that guy who just wants to complain.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:46 PM
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If everyone around you smells like shit, you may want to check your shoes. Don’t worry, I didn’t get that from therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:37 PM

You better hope that doesn’t happen, because the counter move will be dating apps that emphasize video profiles and FaceTime chatting. And I don’t think this sub wants those problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:13 PM

Oh no, this guy definitely found some way around his parents’ content locks on his phone. Imagine thinking you’ve accurately described pimping without even the slightest mention of drugs or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:45 PM
1

Wow. This is a first-ballot Confidently Wrong Hall of Fame contender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:43 PM
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Women will do damn near anything for a man who rocks their world. What do you think pimping even is? …what do you think pimping is???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:17 PM
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Well hopefully in a few decades if this is an issue for you you’ll demonstrate the type of maturity expected from 50 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:45 PM
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It’s not weird that 50 year olds find 21 year olds hot. It’s weird when the bald, pudgy 50-year-old account manger thinks they stand a chance with a hot 21-year-old barista. But even that’s not so bad. Shooters shoot and whatnot. What’s really weird is when middle age men act like insecure overly defensive kids protecting their dating preferences from the mean ol’ internet people. What happened to age allowing you fewer fucks to give?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:37 PM
1

Watching incels try to intellectualize sexual kinks may be my favorite part of the Reddit experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:50 PM
2

Someone who looks similar or as “bad” as you think you look was able to find someone without a cheat code, blackpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:12 PM
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I love how when articles like this do their due diligence in openly speculating reasons for something (complete with question marks), the PhD’s of Reddit run with whatever inconclusive speculation suits their fancy and claim the article “proves” it. Even when the author goes out of their way to say there is no simple answer. My take: married men are considered attractive because they’re attractive, as evidenced by the fact that someone decided to marry them—not the other way around. You can’t pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:53 PM
2

“Difficult, demanding and have high standards” are wildly inaccurate examples of being “all the same.” Chess, crossword puzzles, sudoku, and ”Jeopardy” are all considered difficult, but they’re not the same game. Not to mention you know who else is difficult, demanding and have high standards? Everyone (who isn’t desperate of course)! You’re not struggling with a monolithic gender, you’re struggling with the dynamic and unpredictable nature of humanity. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:39 PM
3

You wouldn’t happen to be trying to shoot down what you think is someone else’s observer bias while demonstrating your own observer bias, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:31 PM
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True, and it probably correlates with the “Cashier was nice to me, why did she turn down my offer for immediate sex???” mentality you see a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:29 PM
4

Or that for all the guys who spend every waking moment trying to find the Monolith Cheat Code to make all women attracted to them, none have come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:23 PM
1

Why do smart people fall for MLM’s? Why do people who know and understand math gamble large amounts of money at the casino? Why do Dallas Cowboy fans exist? We’re flawed decision makers, constantly awed by the flash of short term satisfaction (be it money, social belonging, or sexual attraction) at the expense of long-term benefit. You think dating should be an intellectual exercise, where we perform a cost-benefit analysis and develop 10-year projections before deciding to jump into bed with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:06 AM
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Ignorance or inability to do something isn’t bad, helplessness is the fatal flaw. Nobody cares if you have to YouTube a “for dummies” video, go through trial and error, or pay to solve a problem, so long as the problem gets solved and you’re not sitting around ambitionless as your life crumbles around you. Then again, some women do like a guy more if he can intuitively fix everything with his own hands. Good for her, we’re not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:33 PM
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I know the reality of being a playboy, I AM A PLAYBOY LOL. The existence and entirety of this thread begs to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:38 AM
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How can i become HOTTER so that girls will find it a fair deal to trade sex for sex? Serious answer: some combination of drugs, money, and the capacity to take a lot of rejection. I don’t know what you think the reality of being a playboy looks like but it isn’t how Axe commercials, sitcoms, and porn portray it. To get all the sex you want, you need to lower your standards—I mean really be willing to accept any warm wet hole—and not get in your feelings when most girls still tell you no. And eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:23 AM
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Most guys aren’t going to spend four years in a relationship with a girl they want nothing to do with for the free sex. They keep looking until they find a girl who doesn’t make them miserable. Those who take your path get what they’re asking for: pain and wasted time. You’ve done a fair job explaining your desire for an endless string of NSA sex with a stable of hot partners. And that’s cool, dream your dreams. Question: what do you have that would make a stable of hot potential sex partners ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:08 AM
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You know those porn memes of the hot plumber? That is who i want to be, nothing exceptional, just a normal guy who is extremely hot. You think porn jokes are real and actually aspire to them? Whew, for a moment I thought you had a real problem worth sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:51 AM
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The only way it doesn't happen, is in monogamous relationships, but this is far from ideal for most men, it is truly settling. Are you woe-is-me’ing because you don’t have a rotation of anonymous babes fighting over your dick even though a simple monogamous relationship, which most normal men actually aim for, still eludes you as well? If you give me any average girl i can point out some or a few changes to make most guys find her hot. This is what the sexless redditor calls “graciousness:” Yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:49 AM
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It’s the same as any bodily function in that after you do it you don’t need to do it again for a while. Those who claim some sense of “clarity” after have some kind of tension with their own sexuality where they can’t compartmentalize it and their horniness dominates their personality. I bet there’s a big overlap with the “No Nut November” crowd that can’t possibly just accept sexual urges as part of the human experience and would rather treat them as something to be shamed and suppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:07 PM
6

Red Pill sure attracts the most tragic dysfunctional personality types, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:18 PM
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Ah, I bet if we drill down we’ll eventually discover that “bad boy” = guy whose lifestyle I don’t agree with, as is the Reddit way. It’s always the same playbook where there’s no difference between the 5-times-convicted druglord with more bodies to his name than a cemetery and the guy in a garage band who sells weakass weed to his buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:33 PM
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And if the whole world except you had skepticism of your friend’s or family’s accusation that’s cool? Is that how we’re going to make progress on respecting rape victims? By dismissing everyone we don’t know personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:31 AM
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If you really believed that would it not be more productive to say “Hey, it’s time to believe male accusers” instead of “Fuck those lying women”? Spite in place of progress is why we can’t have nice things. For example, I think we should stop treating boys who get raped by their female teachers like heroes based on how attractive their assailants are. And in the interest of progress we don’t even need to get into who’s more likely to hold that belief…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:59 AM
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Okay. Hey, all you people person who believes women but doesn’t believe men: Stop it. The guy who spent several posts evading a simple question thinks there are a lot of you and is trying to make another bad point—even though he’d sound more sincere pushing for something closer to #BelieveMen than #BelieveNobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:52 AM
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Allow me to quote myself: because treating rape charges based on who makes them would be silly!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:28 AM
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What would I need to call them out for? I don’t have a problem with the way rape accusations are handled in general, so long as they’re taken seriously and not dismissed by default. And that goes for men and women, because treating rape charges differently based on who makes them would be silly…right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:19 AM
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Does this apply to men too? You unnecessarily gendered your premise, I just want to know if you did that deliberately or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:03 AM
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Curious: do you think men’s complaints of rape should be similarly disregarded or just when it comes from the gender you have an ax to grind with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:43 PM
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The Venn diagram of guys who think women’s rape complaints shouldn’t be believed and guys who want the state to pay for their suspicions of paternity fraud is a perfect circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:34 PM
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She doesn’t like the guy less because he validated her, she likes him less because he came across as a nerd. It is very very difficult to charm someone using only text. It takes a lot of practice and emotional intelligence to make someone feel the infatuation feelings without the benefit of body language and face-to-face interaction. And the more words you throw at her to make up for that handicap, the worse you look. EDIT: I mean look at the very first word of your example “bad” text. Not many …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:27 PM
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People make the choices they make. We don’t know what each side enjoys about their relationship and I rarely see weddings being held at gunpoint anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:27 PM
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Easy free sex? Like don’t let the personal hangups of people in the subreddit fool you. In the adult world promiscuity in general is basically seen as neutral, under the “You Do You, Boo” Doctrine. But a lot of people, men and women, love gettin down. For them promiscuity is the best. It just depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:08 PM
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Yeah, that’s why I hate writing in sympathy cards. There are really only three things you can say so no matter what you say you’re just going to come off as cliched and thoughtless. I’d rather just show up somewhere with food or hang out listening to them about their departed loved one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:52 PM
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Women always say that they want a man they can talk to for hours, but women already believe that they can get any guy to give them that much attention. It's very rare for a woman to experience next to no attention from a guy What are you opinions? A common yet crucial fallacy is thinking texting is the same as talking. A woman (not all women) may indeed like being with a guy they call talk to at length, but she might not want to read walls of text. A lot of dumb, cringy words can be less dumb an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:33 PM
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Sometimes I feel like I should be on a watchlist for being in my 30s and subscribed to this sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:27 PM
5

Nah, we good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:46 PM
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What if a guy was reacting: 😍 to girls' pics You mean like they already do all the time? Provided they don’t follow it up with anything creepy (their #1 downfall) a simple emoji would either be ignored or met with some form of “thanks” or a one-tap “like” reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:35 PM
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So there really was no winning for her here, right? Someone makes a public story (implying that they’re open for responses) about their gym session and any positive reinforcement—you know, like what gym goers have given each other since the beginning of time—was going to be seen as a lustful commentary on their physical appearance. BuT wHy DoN’t GiRls CoMpLiMeNt GuYs MoRe OfTeN? 😭 Okay, just know this is a you thing, not a “women” thing. The rest of us who can responsibly use social media withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:03 PM
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😍 is an indication of 😍. Sent thoughtlessly over a social media app it can mean anything from “I’m too lazy to send you actual words of encouragement” to “Okay, replied, check, on to the next story.” You made it weird for her—and her boyfriend apparently. Next time just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:44 PM
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It’s an emoji, not a love letter. I find it hard to believe any woman could send any response that wouldn’t make you think she was hitting on you. Next time publish a pinned post about how you personally interpret each emoji and what your rules for replying to you are. That’ll win you positive engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:58 PM
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One time a girl reacted heart eyes to my story (she was the type to message EVERY guy). She had a boyfriend and I told her please never send me stuff like that again, you have a boyfriend, have some shame. And she told her boyfriend and he said "Bro it's not a big deal" -_- Huge does not compute. So you know she’s the friendly/interactive type and you got mad at her for…being the friendly interactive type? And you had the balls to admonish her for doing you the favor of reacting to your funkyass…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:45 PM
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Who are these video for anyway? Why am I settling down to watch creeepshots of women I don’t know and probably can’t get a clear look at anyway hanging out in a club? Have I exhausted every other part of the internet by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:10 PM
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Yet another “OH NO! Someone might disagree with me and say mean things. HALP ME, INTERNET!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:18 PM
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Be honest: do you even care about the opinions of, let alone want to date, the type of person who uses the term “fataphobia”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:15 PM
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Oh trust me, everyone knows of a…you. You’re not the only one. But you seem to be frustrated at your own choice to waste whatever amount of time you did being inauthentic to meet a goal that you’re now finding out would’ve been easier and faster if you were just your authentic self in the first place. Tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:25 PM
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Edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:07 PM
2

I prefer to let people define their own desires in life. If I lived according to the average redditor’s sense of genetic Genetic(TM) predestination my quality of life would be no different from a feral alley cat. While I play the lottery because of course millions of dollars would be nice, if you just offered a living where I’d never want for food and one loving partner I can die with, I’m taking the deal 10 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:06 AM
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There’s a kernel of truth wrapped up in a whole lot of hooha about genetics, not “genetics” in the valid scientific sense but Genetics(TM), the astrology of Reddit. While it’s obvious that you have to try and work for good things, at the end of the day the only thing you need to do in life is pay taxes and die. What’s a waste is ultimately a matter of personal opinion. And when that opinion is built on a foundation of chronically-online pop-sci-fi “Genetics(TM)” dogma, the waste isn’t nearly as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:54 AM

can’t conceive of a scenario where a woman would actually enjoy talking to. When they come back from a distraction is a pretty good sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:32 PM

Seeing as OP and his Reddit bros think 10 minutes of small talk is a marriage proposal and are now crafting literal conspiracy theories to cope with it not being the case, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:17 PM

Red pill: Harsh truths are all that matter. Facts over feelings. Also red pill: Come ooooooonnnn, let us think rejection the fault of women’s evilness to save our egos!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:03 PM
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I agree 100%—especially as a guy with fetishes who introduced them quite early on. If my partner hated them or stopped me from pursuing them…well…I’m just very very thankful we’re compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:41 PM
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Of course, that’s why I’m very much against guilting or nagging or browbeating others into doing what I want. But if I’m not going to enjoy the relationship without it, then it’s best for all involved if there were no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:28 PM
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If it’s a deal-breaker for me and they had a good reason, maybe I’d feel bad about it not working out. But a deal-breaker is a deal-breaker. And if it’s not a deal-breaker then it’s on me to either get over it or decide it’s actually a deal-breaker. Ultimatums are not conducive to a good relationship, IMHO. If your partner needs to be forced or threatened to make things work, you’re both better off with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:51 PM
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If I want it and am not getting it, it’s a problem. If I don’t care about it then I don’t care about it. Why are we overcomplicating things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:44 PM
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Lemme guess: you hang out in subreddits specifically about things and people that make you angry then wonder why the world makes you so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:28 PM

I don’t care, nobody in the non-terminally-online world cares. Swallow a rainbow of pills if you want. Just try not to make the world a shittier place for others. Those looking for extra credit could stop treating these manosphere podcasts like they actually contain valuable content for adult life, but failing to do that just makes you look stupid, so even that isn’t necessary to the ultimate mission of not being a drain on others’ life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:37 PM
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Hello, m’lady. I will whine about household chores like a 5 year old while simultaneously browbeating you for enthusiastic mind-blowing sex. Because that’s what HVM alphas do, you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:44 PM
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That’s why I said “not necessarily.” Just giving OP some perspective in case he chases the wrong kind of younger woman and gets blindsided because he thought shooting young was “more natural.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:47 AM
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I was 30, not 60, and the desire to make up for lost time was very present. I know how I felt back then. Not that it mattered one way or another since she was prioritizing a bunch of other stuff beside “matching libidos.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:26 AM
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I guess she thought I was cute, she thought we might have had the same values and my maturity (i.e. emotional intelligence, a calm outlook on life, ability to articulate my feelings) made her want to spend more time with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:38 AM
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As a late bloomer who dated down in age early in my relationship history (30M, 23F), no. At least not necessarily. Turns out there are several things people prioritize higher for compatibility than having a similar body count. And at least when it came to that one girl, me already being in my 30s was a far greater concern for her than our mutually limited sexual histories were an assurance. And you know what, that was for the best in the end. A 30-year-old near-virgin is going to want to be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:09 AM

If you find yourself working extra hard to keep a girl the girl doesn’t want to be kept and you’re bad at reading the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:23 AM

Are a lot of passport bros so shy and introverted that they refuse to interact with people? Semi-serious question. Seems like that level of social debilitation precludes getting on a plane to hit on girls from an entirely different culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:46 PM

If your shyness and introversion is debilitating then yes, you’re of course going to struggle. The thing is though that it’s very easy to mistake crippling anxiety for run of the mill introversion. If you struggle to function out in the world, seek help for that because it’s 100% possible to be a friendly attractive person whose natural state just so happens to bend toward introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:42 PM
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Just say you personally don’t like women. It’ll take fewer words and people will understand (they already know).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:49 PM
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Most preferences start pretty neutral. It’s up to the individual and how they behave about their preferences that make it positive or negative. If you want to be provided for, super. If you want to shame men who make less than six figures because they don’t provide for you, you suck. Same as if your horniness—which in a vacuum is fine—makes you lie, cheat, and assault your way to sex. It just so happens that blaming your crappy behavior on some imagined immutable characteristic of your gender ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:47 PM
12

“Hey, you get an unlimited supply of watered down bar drinks, chain restaurant ‘steaks’, and itchy panties from creepy anonymous guys across the country. You’re leading a charmed life.” -incels
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:51 AM
1

I doubt the book that would make someone like OP think that needing support in times of struggle is somehow feminine or not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:37 PM
10

Well this particular brand of illness is making people think stupid and wrong things about masculinity and femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:15 PM
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The discourse about “masculine” and “feminine” these days is coming from a deeply flawed and annoying place where mentally ill people of both sexes are using the terms to explain away their social preferences. Because saying “I want to be babied and paid for like mommy and daddy used to” or “I’m horny all the time and readily sacrifice civilized behavior at the altar of my penis” would take too much self-awareness. Just be you and blame all your actions and preferences on yourself. Also, there’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:23 PM
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Baseball is a one-on-one sport masquerading as a team sport. If you’re down 10-0 and the other guy has one strike left to get to a perfect game, nobody’s going to care if you try to lay down a bunt, swing for the fences or take all the way. The players still try because they have pride. You know, that thing that adult hero worshippers and those who sacrifice themselves for another person’s glory lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:36 PM
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Is there a famous athlete known for moving goal posts because OP is worshipping the fuck out of him right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:28 PM
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I don’t know of many athletes who would actually appreciate their competition creating an artificial advantage for their benefit. A pitcher approaching a perfect game, for example, would rather the opposing team swing away than just take strikes to help him get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:02 PM
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“Hero worship” as OP described it, especially for athletes, isn’t respect as much as it is delusion, and that’s coming from a sports fan. And the point is there are famous women who other women respect or worship however the case may be. OP doesn’t see it because he’s more faithful to his agenda (and his favorite sports stars apparently) than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:59 PM
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There’s a fine line between being influenced by someone and imitating them. The idea is that as an adult you would retain some of what makes you you, even in a state of inspiration. You know, because having your own identity is good. When I hear “imitating” I think of the kid wearing his Luka Doncic jersey wherever he goes because he thinks it actually makes him like Luka.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:11 PM
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Revering people who have done great things, Sure, appreciating great people is very mature. reading their biographies, So is reading. Super adult. being inspired Taking inspiration from others is quite healthy. and trying to imitate them UH OH! Found the two 8 year olds in a trench coat. The main difference between adults and children is emotional regulation. It’s the ability to be a fan without being That Fan. It’s having enough life perspective to like another person without getting carried aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:40 PM
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So women are selfish because they don’t act like adult 8 year olds drawing colorful posters for their favorite athletes? I never considered idol worship of celebrities a good or bad/selfish or selfless trait until reading this post. Now I’m firmly on the side of those who can be a healthy fan. Oh, and by the way: Swifties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:25 PM
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When someone makes a claim like that, they’re either twisting the reasonably words someone said to make them sound mentally ill or it’s a mentally ill person fighting with another mentally ill person. Ah, Reddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:40 PM
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My guy, you’re 25. Nobody gives a damn who you date. The only reason you’re pressed about this is because all your social feedback comes from Reddit. In the real world, where people aren’t fending off trolls and starting arguments from their toilets, 25 may as well be 18. Love too hear insights on 30-year-old women by kids who can barely rent a car on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:16 PM
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I was thinking more about the stuff that happened before the lying. He probably just read the woman’s profile and engaged in civil conversation using nice big boy words for once. He performed the bare minimum as a bit and thinks he’s Casa-fucking-nova when guys who are actually successful on dating apps do the same as a basic reflex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:12 PM
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It’s weirder for OP to think that he performed some superhuman feat of psychological wizardry when he probably just had a mature conversation and paid someone a compliment for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:07 PM
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Does what any decent person on a dating app would do, gets the results any decent person would get HA! I manipulated you so hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:04 PM
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Asking for consensual infidelity or an open marriage is exploiting the advantage of health he has, but that she doesn’t. You risk destroying the happiness of the woman you love in her most emotionally vulnerable time Good thing I offered another option. And what do you think will happen when “the woman you love” finds out you’re cheating? She’s going to get out of bed and do cartwheels because you found a way to get sex? I don’t know what I’d do, but I sure won’t be a smug unempathetic and judgm…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:39 PM
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I’ll empathize with the husband if he can handle this adversity like an adult. Sitting down and asking for ethical consensual infidelity like a big boy is fine. Making a sacrifice in support of your cancer-stricken wife like a big boy is fine. Hiding and lying to avoid an inconvenience that cancer patients are forced to deal with every day is weak. And then making yourself out to be the victim in all this? Couldn’t be this man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:22 PM
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It’s called porn and masturbation. You did it just fine when you were single. If you’re really that concerned about your physical needs then talk to your wife about some kind of ethical non-monogamy plan. What you don’t do is step out and cheat. Same type of guy gets up and arms about women who leave their men when they lose their jobs. The wrong type of men’s advocacy is creating an underclass of weak hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:11 PM

Even an argument is giving him too much credit. OP is in pure temper tantrum mode with a dash of “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:02 AM

I remember talking about how 2000-2010 was a great decade, where everyone was fit (not really but better than now), with gelled up hair and music was all clubbing music. Not that much reliance on internet and people got out there This non white dude told me, he hates white dudes because women of his race friendzoned him to go hook up with a white guy This conversation sounds like literal hell on earth. Anyone unfortunate enough to be overhearing must’ve had an overwhelming urge to walk into free…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:53 PM
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To the people who aren’t just dunking on OP and are attempting to seriously engage in a discussion based on abso-fucking-lutely nothing more than made up premises and fever-dream out-the-ass analytics of said made up premises: what are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:50 PM
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Well that POV is downright healthy! This group could use that perspective more often. Good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:05 PM
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I disagree. Boxers—even Gabby Jay—don’t say “Fuck this shit.” That’s what the spectators in the stands do. And it’s perfectly fine to be a spectator. But OP was asking what it takes to connect. So I’m speaking from the perspective of those who still want to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:03 PM
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I don’t know who told you that life wasn’t chaos or that you’ll eventually understand everything you want to understand, but they did you a massive disservice. Nobody LIKES inconclusive answers, but this world is full of them. Get sick and tired all you want, as if that’s going to change anything. But…that’s just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:34 PM
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This comes from severe risk and pain aversion that can only be solved with experience risking and feeling pain. It’s like wanting to become a boxer but having the expectation of never ever getting hit in the head. How does anyone connect? When one side decides they’re ready to risk getting hit in the head, connections can be made. Once they realize that any rules about looking too needing or expressing their feelings are all socially constructed bullshit, they can finally get the ball rolling. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:15 PM
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If you don’t know the fine art of euphemisms that’s on you. Even women have learn to say “I like wearing heels” to avoid the ire of the shorties. Dating apps have age filters, if you want a submissive girl just call yourself “traditionalist,” if you want someone who’s good in bed say you like “exploring your wild side” or something, if you want to filter out the fatties say you lead an active lifestyle. Then again, if you’re mad because you can’t say you want “large pussy lips”…well…good luck fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:07 PM
5

Why is she hiding out on a treadmill in the corner? Work out where the men are. Also, that much obvious makeup in the gym is asking for more silent side-eyes than approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:05 PM
2

Do we think there is a “real” answer to why Girl A rebuffs your advances while Girl B wants to jump your bones while Girl C may dump you within a year while Girl D wants to marry you while Girl E prefers the company of other girls while… And that’s just basic attraction. Do we think there’s a simple, single solution to other hot PPD topics like why men who will never be sexually attractive are still paranoid about paternity fraud while women take such grave offense to the idea of paternity testi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:21 PM
2

It’s a figure of speech. In this case, I mean only worry about the things you can actually solve, don’t fret about the things that are a result of an imperfect human behavioral process. Jesus, not everything is a thing that can be “won” or an “advantage” to be seized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:33 PM
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This isn’t about advantage, this is about a productive use of time and mental capacity. You want whatever “advantage” you perceive others having? Pick your battles—battles you can win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:08 PM
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People had high standards well before social media. Wanting the best in life is one of the more easily explained human behaviors. I do find that a lot of people here think the “solution” to a dating “problem” just so happens to be picking on the thing that personally bugs them. This kind of biased unproductive non-solution is way worse than “That’s just the way it is.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:00 PM
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The way it is, especially in dating, is that there is no one answer. Maybe there’s an evolutionary component, maybe there’s a man made component, it’s probably both of those and more. “That’s just the way it is” acknowledges the dynamic and fluid nature of the human psyche, especially in a realm that’s so difficult to nail down and articulate that it’s best described through art, not scientific research. I’m not saying it’s the most satisfying answer, just the most accurate one until we develop …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:26 PM
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No you didn't you made a post asking why people do this, instead of just accepting it is what it is. I very much did not. I deliberately avoided asking why because, quite frankly, I don’t care. I’m just putting forward an alternative way of thinking for those who are spinning themselves in circles trying to figure out every aspect of the human (let’s be honest: female) psyche. Do you think we should have done the same with racism, just accepted that it is what it is? What about child abuse? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:17 PM
1

I did, and I am. Now I’m—we’re—inviting others to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:59 PM
2

Sounds like a free pass for me to get a “performance” lap dance at a later date. Okay, I answered as an excuse to post this relevant SNL sketch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:58 AM
5

I always hope these demographic insights drive home the fact that the views and issues discussed here are rather niche and don’t necessarily reflect the facts on the ground in the real world. It’s why I/we use “PPD” as shorthand for “a handful of guys whose gripes, while valid, aren’t nearly as global as they’d have you believe.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:06 PM
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Don’t do stupid shit worth warning other people about and people won’t record you doing stupid shit worth warning people about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:35 AM
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Anyone who isn’t caping for creepshots is a white knight. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:26 AM
20

“How dare you accuse me of being creepy! I’ll show you. I’ll…take photos that literally have the word ‘creep’ in the name.” There’s no kind of galaxy brain like PPD galaxy brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:16 AM
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Men aren’t the only ones who can laugh off an accidental awkward situation. It’s interesting that you think a woman would report you to HR but seemingly have no concern that a different man would’ve seen your accidental stare as a reason to fight you. Also there’s the fact that, for some men, being in an embarrassing situation around a woman is far more damaging to the ego than being embarrassed around a guy—and not because the woman would send him to some kind of HR prison (she probably wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:48 PM
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This is not the place to get a representative sample of people who understand what’s socially acceptable. Of course most men know it’s rude to stare at others. It was slapped into them by their moms by the time they were 7 or so. The men here defending creep behavior never had the proper training growing up or will never ever understand the social nuances necessary to walk the line between appropriate and inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:47 PM
3

I bet a lot of those “quack” therapists already knew that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:59 AM
0

Spoken like the world’s wordiest mob enforcer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:48 PM
4

This, OP, is called crab mentality. That’s a step in the wrong direction unlike you, who is doing everything right. It’s also why being terminally online never got anyone anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:08 PM
4

To those who are severely out of shape, a walk around the block is a full workout. Everyone starts somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:38 PM
-1

A 50/50 man is a useless man. That’s all you had to say! Was that so hard? And if OP shares your sentiment then of course. A family of rabid raccoons would be better roommates than a 50/50 boyfriend. How can anyone change that view? Fortunately a lot of women don’t feel that way. Those with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:36 PM
4

The choice isn’t between a female roommate and a “useless” man. Obviously the roommate wins. But if the choice is between a female roommate and a 50/50 boyfriend, well, I guess it depends on how much you like the boyfriend. If you like him then the relationship should win, unless you just think any guy who doesn’t pay your bills is “useless.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:45 PM
2

Are you playing the percentages, because I’ve heard some horror stories about women’s restrooms and sorority houses, or are you planning to…vet them? And if the latter, what’s allowing you to vet for a clean and responsible female roommate that’s stopping you from finding a 50/50 boyfriend who won’t make you miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:39 PM
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There’s no guarantee that a female roommate is going to do any more housework or being any less of a mooch than a boyfriend. And you’re getting no dick out do the deal. As for the last part, unless you can only be sexually attracted to guys who pay all your bills, then picking dudes who give you mediocre sex is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:55 PM
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Don’t take dating advice from people who spend more time with survey and study abstracts than actual human beings. Why are you getting social lessons from people with demonstrably no social skills? Also, if you’re of the gender that is expected to be in the pursuing role, consider it a privilege to forge your own destiny. Being passive/dependent on being approached all the time in dating sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:48 PM
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Some assholes might do it, just like some assholes treat the poor like garbage. Jerk gonna jerk. But to position it as if it’s some acceptable social behavior—like otherwise good and decent people would take a break from being good and decent to treat others like crap just because they’re ugly—is unrealistic and overly dramatic. Unless your definition of treating someone like crap is “not dating them,” which around here is as synonymous as synonymous can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:13 PM
3

I don’t think you appreciate how offensive that sounds compared to people with real serious health issues. You don’t need to be near death all the time to understand there’s no comparison. “Sorry about your terminal tumor, Ms. Johnson. I haven’t had a date in a while so…you know…samesies.” -The world’s worst hospice nurse trainee
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:06 PM
3

First of all, you act as if we’re more respectful toward our poor to any appreciable degree. But most importantly: nobody pays any mind to uggos because most people are either unremarkable looking or plain ol’ hideous. They exist in all walks of life across all classes of society. They’re our friends, our family, they’re probably even us (I say with my hand firmly in the air). There’s no reason, be it logical, emotional, or religious, to treat them like garbage. Choosing not to have NSA casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:59 PM
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Clingy people quickly stop becoming partners and start becoming anchors. Want a day to do your own thing? Not with a clingy partner. Want a friend of the opposite sex? Not with a clingy partner. Want to hang on to anything about your pre-relationship life? Not with a clingy partner. And that doesn’t even get into needing to make random reassurances that you’re not cheating and that you really do love them. Why is being clingy seen as bad? How can being clingy be seen as good?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:44 AM
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I’m not saying live in denial. Acknowledgment is fine, but if you’re holding any spite or regret over the past the only person you are screwing over is your current self. That’s a good way to be on your death bed with absolutely zero to look back fondly on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:20 AM
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Everything feels different as we get older compared to when we were teens and had all our emotions turned up to 11. Personally I’m glad to not so dramatically be moved by the winds of real life every damn day. But that doesn’t mean that people stop feeling once they hit their 20s or that there aren’t countless opportunities to still feel love/joy/happiness/satisfaction/what have you. But a thing that will definitely blunt your enjoyment of life is a constant unchecked feeling of regret over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:08 AM
1

What else would I want from someone who doesn’t want to be around me because I have emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:28 PM

It takes a while but I can see how it’s hard for a lot of men. In order to get approached you have to a: be outside and b: appear approachable. And even then it’s not guaranteed. So if you spend most of the time at home and in the rare occasion you do go out you act like you’d rather be anywhere but out, well you know what you’re gonna get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:25 AM
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There's this assumption here that men just have a choice on how they can behave like women do, and that they can just be whatever they want to be. Well if that weren’t the case then I’d lead a life of very happy solitude instead of living a lie 24/7 in the hopes of a crumb of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:02 AM
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Did I miss the part where you actually cried in front of your girlfriend and it blew up the relationship? Because after several very unfortunate rereads it looks like you went away to cry alone, blamed your girlfriend for something she never did because you never gave her the chance to do it, and are now telling us to change your view even though you provided the opposite of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:26 AM
4

The kind of thought you could only have if you’ve watched too many heavily edited ragebait TikTok’s where delusional drunk college girls say they want a man who makes half a million per day. Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:18 PM
9

I don’t think the extra $2K would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:28 PM
21

Yes, that is correct. There is not a single happy and successful person making $98,000 a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:52 PM
8

Move?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:19 AM
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I guess, but it’s not the hobbies that make someone boring. It’s general attitude and approach to life. If she doesn’t have an opinion on anything, if she has nothing to say, if she’s not intellectually curious, if she can’t banter, if she doesn’t want to try new things. That’s boring as shit. But why would I be with someone like that in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:05 PM
0

Boo the girls who say the things that make you mad. Cheer the men who oppose the girls and make them look bad. All the performers walk away with the viewers’ money. It’s professional wrestling for incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:46 PM
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No, I’m sticking my head in fresh air, where millions of adults live who, even if they do see the content you’re describing, will either scroll past it, telling the algorithm there’s no point pushing it to them, or not take it seriously. The only people who think this brand of shitposting ragebait has actual societal consequences are kids who haven’t spent enough time in society for their opinions to matter. And their level of interest is going to drop as soon as they get jobs and partners to oc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:13 AM
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Well first, that’s why social media usage among young people should be closely monitored by their parents and all kids should have internet literacy training—present company very much included. But more to your original point, there isn’t a “sudden surge” as much as it is the same group of chronically online schmucks falling for and unintentionally rewarding snackable ragebait content. What does it mean for the “future of gender relations”? Well either this social engineering is so strong that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:36 PM
8

You notice patterns but you think an algorithm for a company that relies on high predictable user engagement doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:09 PM
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In the restaurant industry it’s as much of a reason to excommunicate a guy. In incelthink, sexual assault is the only bad thing a powerful man can be accused of. In the real world, if you’re known for stealing tips from regular workers you’re still in hot water no matter what you are innocent paid off a settlement for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:42 AM
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Wasn’t he also accused of skimming tips, which in that specific industry, is just as egregious of an offense? If he did that then fuck him, he can stay cancelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:15 AM
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Considering how many people have different red flags—and how some people’s red flags might contradict other red flags—I think red flags are just expressions of personal preferences. People act like their own red flags are The Truth, but it’s only ever a matter of personal opinion. And considering the shit red pill is scared of, I’m glad their opinions are just opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:16 PM
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It’s really not that deep. An unattractive guy to a woman is just…an unattractive guy. If she’s friends with him she might show sympathy for a death in the family. If she’s not friends she might quietly remove herself from the situation. Just because she’s not going to have sex with him either way doesn’t mean she holds him in such contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:17 PM
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Only a psycho would have a problem with someone crying over the death of a parent. The 5’7” chubby programmer isn’t unattractive because he cried over a dead parent, he’s unattractive because he’s a 5’7” chubby programmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:02 AM
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This is starting to come across as whining. This is the difference people are trying to communicate. Saying you need help when you need help isn’t a bad thing. Abandoning the pursuit of help to complain about “women” and act like there’s no hope is textbook whiny petulance. Ask yourself: “What is my complaint going to accomplish for me?” If it ends with a show of resolve or a sincere ask for help then it can at least accomplish some recovery, and people will root for it. If it ends with another …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:59 AM
2

Now let’s bring it back to the original point: how many Message Rap artists release songs about the size of their dicks? Can we identify the difference between the two?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:35 PM
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Not necessarily, they might give a mirror reflection of social / cultural attitudes. It's not just rap, pop music at large can give some insights into people's behaviours in a social context (especially one like the US). Lyrics are very revealing of a nation's culture at large (both good and bad traits). It’s club music, not classic literature. Half the time the lyrics are unintelligible so as not to take away from the music. The other half, what are we learning? That having sex is fun and the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:13 PM
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A guy who can talk about his dick using catchy rhyme and rhythm over a hook is a rapper. A guy just talking about his dick in casual conversation is a fucking weirdo. But more importantly, you know those rap lyrics are just for show, right? Do we also need to have the professional wrestling and Santa Claus talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:01 PM

If these stories keep getting dragged out as “proof” of something, we should be able to start calling bullshit when we smell bullshit. It’s human nature to want to make yourself look like the good guy and the internet is littered with unreliable narrators. I’m tired of needing to pretend that something that makes zero sense is plausible, nodding like an idiot validating the invalid like, “Oh, no, you said good morning and she called that SWAT team on you? And then her 6’6” FWB walked up to you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:59 PM
1

The Facebones Brigade will have to migrate to Mastodon at this rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:00 PM
11

PPD: where guys who pitch fits regularly about girls making assumptions about them based on looks write whole biographies on guys they never met based only on height, facial hair, and body art.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:39 PM
0

“No woman wants these men” is an extremist statement with no grounding in reality. Even if some men struggle for a time, it’s highly unlikely that “no” women want them. And even when they struggle, it could be for several other reasons beside testosterone. People love to blame their one little pet project for all of life’s problems, even if there’s no relation at all. There is clearly a group of men who are obsessed with testosterone, but that still doesn’t mean testosterone is The Problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:58 PM
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Well I would start by seeking out medically valid resources if you’re genuinely concerned about your testosterone levels. Your favorite podcaster and the axe-grinders on Reddit are going to be pulling scientifically dubious nonsense out of their asses that’s going to do nothing but cause you unneeded stress. Then hopefully these smart resources will tell you there’s no causation between loneliness and fucking testosterone and you can continue to enjoy your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:45 PM
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My favorite part of your post was the many examples you provided of “being treated as royalty” with real-world application and scenarios. It really helped draw a clean and defined line of logic between your original claim and the conclusion that “they don’t consider most men human beings.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:16 PM
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Definitely. Although it’s always the ones with gray-haired-sunglasses avatars that either do the least (a bunch of eggplant emojis) or the most (using paternal terms of endearment like “darling” as if she’s a surrogate for the daughter who doesn’t call anymore…because he wants to have sex with her). The young guys call her “cute and beautiful” as if avoiding calling her “hot” would make him Stand Out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:09 PM
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No, and I honestly don’t understand guys who do. Like if it were something substantive or a conversation or a comment on doing something actually impressive, sure. Spread positivity. But nobody wants to hear that CreepyOldGuy84728582 has a boner. Even if she’s a certified thirst trap creator, she just wants money and maybe a like and subscribe, not your words. Never your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:28 PM

It’s a browbeating tactic. A loser who’s alone is just a loser. A loser who can shame, guilt, pressure, or nag someone to slump down to their level is a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:25 PM
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Single and unmarried, probably. Lonely, I don’t know how many psychological probes into loneliness there have been over time. Frankly I don’t care. But a scapegoat as specific as “women in the 5.5-7.5 range” screams a specific problem for a specific person with an ax to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:57 PM
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The headline would be 5000x times more accurate if you’d just change the third “the” to “my.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:42 PM
9

It would only take firmware update 1.0.1 before she realizes she needs to get far away from him quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:41 PM
13

If you think people regard sex and relationships at the same level as handcrafted goods then you’re saying more about yourself than you are anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:23 PM
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Yeah, it’s masturbation with extra steps. Most guys realize how far they can actually get with just their hands during their first real teenage dating dry spell. The only difference between a human and a sexbot is the emotional human connection. But seeing how they speak of women it’s obvious how little they think of human connection. The only non-sex “need” these bots would fill that’s of any interest to them is their desire to be treated like a god and having meaningless affirmations spoken to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:11 PM
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That pokes at the whole learning and growing by itself, no? These guys want to have their cake and eat it too: a perfect facsimile of a human complete with advanced cognitive abilities but who is unwaveringly beholden to its master’s programming. They either want a life sized fleshlight or a sex slave but are too cowardly to admit either one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:01 PM
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The only thing you guys overestimate more than women’s supposed drive to ban AI girlfriends is men’s supposed drive to have AI girlfriends. This is earth, not Incelland. There are far more of us than there are of you. We don’t care about what some stranger does for fun (so long as it doesn’t hurt anyone) and we don’t want to have romantic relationships with appliances. The dating scene will survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:56 PM
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A 69-year-old 300-pound woman name Bertha? Reeeeeeeeeeeal stealthy. Forget Chad and hypergamy. Trolls trolling trolls is what’s ruining dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:25 PM
9

Oh come on now. You have to do a little bit better than walking up to strangers in a carpark and asking for a date within ten seconds before you throw up your hands and ask “What are we supposed to do then?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:17 AM
13

Whatever helps you evade accountability for your actions—I mean—sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:05 AM
10

You do realize that this behaviour I'm talking about isn't always how it's been, right? So what changed? Society. There was a time when it was considered creepy to want to have sex with a member of the same sex. That time has passed. Society deemed it normal or at least acceptable so boom: homosexuality isn’t creepy anymore. Maybe we’ll see the day when it isn’t considered creepy to approach strange women you’ve never met out on the street and immediately ask for a date. That day isn’t here yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:32 PM
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Abnormality that causes unease depends entirely on what someone people consists normal and what makes a person people uneasy. You were close but not quite there. Creepiness is indeed a social construct, but a pretty solid one considering most of society have found agreement behind the same thing and remain steadfast behind it together. If I started calling my coworker creepy because they came to my desk with a work-related item I needed to review ASAP, people would tell me to get my head examine…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:15 PM
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And yet most women and men understand and respect the fact that women are cognizant of rape. So again: not creepy since it’s widely understood to be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:01 PM
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A lot of people use “creepy” to mean abnormal, or not the kind of thing most people would do. And by that standard that was creepy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:35 PM
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Oh it wouldn’t surprise me at all if people who had the same dumb take about their dicks would also have a similarly dumb lack of self-awareness about the reputation their takes earn them. But the bigger problem is we all get hit with this reductive stereotype. Because the dumbest among us have successfully conditioned society to believe that male sex is a defiling act that is done to others, nobody’s really interested in a man “celebrating” his sexuality or thinking about the inanimate objects …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:34 AM
15

Certain people “Female virginity is important because when a man has sex with a women she’s ruined for everyone else.” The same people: “Why are people treating my sexuality like some dangerous shame that I’m not allowed to celebrate?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:24 AM
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No, the author they interviewed editorialized with their personal opinion of the study, which is the prerogative of the website you’re reading. The results stay the results, neutral as they are. Here’s a hint: if you wanted to launch a publication called The Novel-Tip-7570 Times and publish an article on the same study and interview RedpillSmoothbrain42069 for a pullquote, you absolutely could and the blame would be totally flipped. That means a “study” that pliable is pretty damn innocuous, isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:54 PM
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First, this study (that I’m sure is repeatable, factored for every possible variable, and followed even the most basic standards of scientific study procedure) just presents results. If one were so inclined they could easily blame women for having too high standards. But that doesn’t support a persecution complex, does it? But most importantly, people who get blamed sometimes deserve the blame. And if you’re not viable for a relationship you’re not viable for a relationship. Sorry. But I guess t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:39 PM
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Are we talking about the sub or are we talking about “the mainstream” per your title of the post? Whether intentionally or not, you’re conflating the two. I’m guessing not intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:27 PM
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OP tried to give four examples and they were all either Reddit threads, TikTok comments, and dating app nonsense. It’s the Triple Play of Terminally Online Worldview Construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:15 PM
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No one is more status-conscious than young people, specifically for the reasons you stated. In the absence of money, social status is the capital that young people trade on. You don’t think who you have on your arm is part of that social capital? And apparently, the ability to not be compared to another guy is just a huge bag of social capital for you. Most of your post is describing puberty hormones, and hey, if you want to conflate the combination of youth and chemical psychosis for “true love…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:13 PM
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In fairness, his posts and follow-ups sounds exactly like an angsty teen so he probably thinks late-20s is “getting older.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:19 PM
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They probably did because, you know, family and friends. OP sounds like the classic case of a guy who thinks the only way a woman can show sympathy is through sex, though, so he probably didn’t even notice. Or is upset that he didn’t get it??????
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:15 PM

That’s why you marry hippies who find the entire concept of diamonds a human rights violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:08 PM
5

Damn, that’s deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:56 AM
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Well this is the same logic incels use to pretend we’re telling them that personality is the only thing that matters. As if everyone didn’t know that attractiveness earns you some credit. Just not enough to overcome being a serial killer—to most women. Yes, the fat hairy 60-year-old trucker is going to have fewer random sex offers than the handsome young prisoner who is known by a million times more women. Checkmate I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:57 PM
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard on a very very dumb website and why I felt it necessary to remind incels not to try to become serial killers to get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:42 PM
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Most people agree with you. Which is why it’s deceptively simple for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:57 PM
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Did their “eyes light up” because they wanted to fuck them specifically or because they wanted to hear about some gruesome murders. As if this sub would know the difference. While everyone loves slasher movies, most people don’t consider them porn. You guys’ll just have to trust me on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:56 PM
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“Brute force” doesn’t do much of anything. And if you’re doing the PPD brand of “effort” which is passively swiping and scrolling on social media so that your same handful of crappy bathroom selfies get sent into the ether of course that’s not going to work because that’s what literally every other scared loser on the internet with nothing interesting going for them does. The key is to be in front of a bunch of people and worth a damn. If nobody knew who he was, Jack Black spamming his driver’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:37 PM
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And that’s why I offered the PSA. Because I know someone out there, instead of realizing that having your mug plastered in front of millions of women is going to increase your chances of some of them finding you attractive, is going to take the long winding road of Shitty Incel Logic and have the big brain idea of “Durrrr I should become a violent psychopath. Then girls will touch my pee pee.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:15 PM
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Famous people have exposure to all different corners of society. And famous murderers are going to have exposure to the parts of society who are mentally unwell or have some kind of extreme murder fetish. Do…do you want to attract the type of girl who likes serial killers? Why does it have less to do with looks than you think? Because Jack Black also has similar exposure to millions of women. Being famous didn’t make him more attractive, but it did reveal and amplify the type of woman who is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:22 PM
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Wasn’t this exact same link with almost the exact same wording posted here about a week ago? Did you not like the answers you got last time? I know this sub likes its reruns but this is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:41 PM
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Gee thanks. Well I guess this is what I should expect when asking for more than nothing. Hope you never need technical support on anything. Because it always ended up with me being looked at as dog shit Everyone you ever approached fled in visible disgust? Grown adults started bullying you like you were back on the school ground? Nobody ever treated you with decency and respect? Females got irritated by my presense Every single time? How long did it take for them to “get irritated”? (Lemme guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:03 AM
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Ah. Then here’s a hard truth for the group that loves hard truths: the internet doesn’t want to read impotent venting. We don’t know the venter, we are not emotionally invested in the venter, and most of the venting sounds flat-out factually inaccurate to anyone with real-life social experience. But most importantly, if a venter wants to make his vents in the form of a question (i.e. “Where am I supposed to meet women?”), don’t be surprised if people are going to try to answer that question. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:08 PM
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Then what do they want from us? Because the more dismissive they get of well-intentioned advice the more convinced I get that they’re not going to be happy with anything less “useful” than free pity sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:57 PM
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What do you think would be useful? We’ve given this hypothetical poor person/incel a link to the Indeed.com job boards/places where they can meet people. We’ve given pointers on how to polish their resume/the do’s and don’t of talking to strangers. Short of making up some fake job to pay them for/throwing a pity fuck their way, these guys aren’t going to be happy with anything they’re given.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:44 PM
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Of they definitely didn’t say “low value men.” That’s one of those Redditspeak words and phrases like “resources” that tell you exactly what you’re dealing with. But I want to give OP the benefit of the doubt that he’s trying to summarize his impression of their response using Redditspeak. Also because it’s really really funny to imagine that Billy in IT actually bothered his female coworkers about AI bots and got an actual “We’re not on Reddit anymore” answer from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:36 PM
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Why didn’t it work? What happened? Did you try multiple times? What did you do? Did you make any modifications that might suit you personally? All you guys do is get fussy about it “not working” with no other context. How can anyone in good faith help you if you just say “it didn’t work” and leave it at that? If you put the same amount of effort in (not) describing your experience as you do in trying the experience then it’s no wonder “it doesn’t work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:33 PM
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“Self-fulfilling prophesy” isn’t an insult, it’s a description of what you’re doing. Anyone who thinks “Oh I don’t wanna go out to social groups because most of the guys are just going to be zombie wallflowers” is inevitably going to wind up acting like a zombie wallflower and get shocked by their lack of fun they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:15 PM
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Because for as obvious and childish as this advice is, there are apparently grown men who still haven’t followed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:05 PM
1

Textbook self-fulfilling prophesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:03 PM
24

And which step in the TRP playbook emphasizes whining online with excuses for why one can’t be social? And if TRP is so effective, why have you made this post? See, the thing is we’ve all heard “those mean ol’ bloopers expect us to just get it” before and we know it’s not true. Guys like you are given a laundry list of recommendations, from church to mixers to hiking clubs to dance groups to volunteering and on and on and on. And every recommendation is met with some excuse as to why it’s imposs…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:25 PM
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Okay then, Mr. Logician. How do you propose one gets sex and relationships, which are inherently social activities, without being a social person? Magic? Prayer? Internet whining? You guys are quick with the excuses, which is odd since you’re also desperate for solutions. Why are you so special that what has worked for people since the beginning of time won’t work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:12 PM
3

They call it “Chiraq” because people are dumb and don’t know what the phrase “per capita” means. Which is fine because we (and our women) are doing just fine without those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:04 PM
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TIL Atlanta is a war zone. Are you one of those people who hates big cities because they’re not openly hostile toward gay and trans people? Because if so then enjoy trying to find love in the sticks!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:57 PM
5

Being “lonely” doesn’t make you that bafflingly unaware of how people are going to react to some rando’s threats to retreat to AI. And women absolutely do like sex. They just don’t like sex with…well…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:30 AM
6

Explain, please. This isn’t about “men.”’ This is about one dope who thought that a group of women who never cared about his dick would suddenly start caring about his dick if he threatened to retreat to AI girlfriends. And we’re laughing at him about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:21 AM
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This is only a valid solution if you’d be happy just having any uninterested flesh mass cosmically obligated to be around you. How could staying single not be more preferable 10 times out of 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:43 PM
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Trust me, a guy who actually has the option isn’t going to say, “Nope, rather fuck this appliance instead.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:35 PM
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