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do you think any woman fantasizes about short men with small dicks? Hell no. They just don't like to admit this. I would have liked to have a huge cock rather than an average one. Mostly because it would be a hell of a lot of fun to play with. I also wish most women would seriously work out with BenWa balls, keggles, etc. Instead they are lazy and have flabby loose pussies. Oh well...
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 05:13 PM
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I can only remember crying (if you can call tears crying) once in all my life since childhood. It was when my female abbysinian cat was killed in the street near my apartment. I really loved that cat. I never cried over getting dumped by various women. I didn't even cry at my dad's funeral. Do I think my emotional "even keel" and lack of the ability to cry at every fucking thing is a deficiency of some sort? Hell no.
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 05:01 PM
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sounds like you just described Dubya to a tee
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 11:33 PM
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but did they have enough sticks to wipe their asses with??
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 11:18 PM
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I'm loving it. Markets panicking. "Blood in the Streets". Hope it leads to yet another correction but somehow I doubt it will. I will average in just in case. I pulled $70K profit on last summers correction and $110K profit on the nice correction beginning of this year. But three corrections in one years time seems unlikely. I've been "investing" for over 30 years and have never seen that. But who knows? If a bastard like Trump can actually have a real shot at being Preznit anything could happen…
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 03:08 PM
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Lol eventually you will get so dependent on her where you will get married just to avoid the heartache of losing her. damn... you must be a young guy to actually believe and state something like that. I'm 57. 24 LTR's in my life. longest was 4 years, most 6 months to one year. Never married, no kids. Men can "self actualize and achieve their potential while in a relationship" but it almost always means the end of the relationship. That was certainly true in my case. Stay independent and true to …
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 11:34 PM
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I have to agree. I'm 6'1" and was a good looking, successful 6 figure income guy. Good looking from my late teens to my mid 40's. Never a PUA, women just came my way with basically no effort on my part. My sister is a beautiful woman. Basically looks like Julia Roberts twin sister. But now she is 50 and her looks are fading. Her last boyfriend was a great guy. 747 pilot, 200 acre ranch, a self made super successful guy, marathon runner, Hawaii ironman competitor. She dumped him. Why???? He is 5'…
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 11:06 PM
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I remember a couple "strong, independent women I dated years ago. In one case, we became badly stuck out in the middle of nowhere in a national forest with a big storm approaching. I get out and manage to dig a trench with my lugwrench and fill it with rocks and branches to attempt to get enough traction to get unstuck. But I need to push on the truck and I need her to operate the vehicle (rock it back and forth while I push). She refuses. I am covered with mud and she wont even get out of the p…
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 04:56 PM
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dude should have ran to her closet, grabbed an armful of her clothes, soaked them down and then dump them all over the fire.
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 04:45 PM
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20?? you have plenty of time. I graduated highschool at age 17 and partied my ass off till I was nearly 23. But I worked a bunch of shitty low paid jobs that I hated and realized that I could not party forever. Most of my friends were getting married but that was not my path. I finally got my shit together almost by accident when I roomed with a guy who was an electrical engineering major just about to graduate. I realized I was smarter than this guy and if he could do it I just knew I could. Gr…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 11:31 PM
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Women and children first. This is hardwired into our male brains due to evolutionary biology. When we were small bands of hunter/gatherers 100+ thousand years ago this made good sense. If you lost the women and children your small band had a pretty good chance of dying out. Now there are 7.5+ billion people overpopulating this planet and we are still stuck with the hardwiring that treats women as special creatures when in fact they need to stop breeding and let the planet get back to a sustainab…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 03:58 PM
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Great story OP. I'm 57, never married, no kids, had lots of LTR's during my life. My last one (and by last I mean LAST) occurred when I was 51 and ended when I was 53 and she kicked me out of her house (thank the gods!). Amazing how similar our stories with regards to the last relationshit. I was a successful engineer, happily living in a luxury apartment when she got her hooks into me. She talked me into giving up my apartment and moving in with her. She would take care of everything, sex would…
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 03:42 PM
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Wrong. LTR's are not out of bounds. By definition they always end. Marriage and co-habitation are out of bounds. Co-habitation might be up for debate. But once you've done it and suffered the inevitable consequences you will understand.
/r/MGTOW20/06/16 11:00 PM
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probably not a true "gold digger" as it appears she would settle for a smaller pot of gold. Definitely a parasite though. do any of these manginas in the comments section understand that a relationship with this poor wench cannot possibly last? 2-3 years max and all bets are off.
/r/MGTOW20/06/16 04:27 PM
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sorry but it never works that way. You can be SURE that she was getting that relationship started BEFORE your divorce. That's just one of the shitty parts of basic female nature. Happened to me more than once. One of the good things about getting older is how much easier it is to let go. I saw my last girlfriend with her new boyfriend and my only feeling was, that poor SOB. he has no idea. Very liberating to be able to honestly not give a shit.
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 03:57 PM
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I found it pretty easy to get dumped. I was the dumpee in probably 80% of my LTR's. Be "emotionally unavailable" this is easy if it is your "natural state" as it is in my case (loner). Spend at least 4 days a week on your own, also very easy, in fact necessary for someone like me. Don't spend too much time on the phone (I hate phones). After a few months to a year you will be confronted with "I feel like am just your weekend fuck". I was always nice to women and treated them well when I was with…
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 04:27 PM
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tramp stamps and sleeves. Disgusting. Like cigarettes, an instant turn-off. A HUGE red flag
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 04:22 PM
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Fear? Coward? retarded? ad hominem much? sorry User but you are a fool. I'll bet you voted for Bush junior. Twice. And that guy was a true coward. Do you really think a bastard like Trump gives two shits about little people like you? Are you ready for the trade wars he could unleash? As far as "living in fear" you pretty much are describing Trump supporters. They are truly feeling powerless, they are living in fear. I'm a self made guy. Financially independent. And I'm pretty good at watching ou…
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 12:19 AM
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anyone who has money and invests would be a fool to vote for Trump. The markets hate uncertainty and Trump takes uncertainty to a whole new level. Hillary will be a continuation of Obama. I cant stand her but will hold my nose and vote for my own best interests
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 05:00 PM
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I think it means her default setting is All Men are Assholes
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 04:33 PM
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once the hormones start to die off in your 50's it gets pretty easy to view women objectively. Even the pretty ones. It amazes me how they look so different than when I was younger. I am polite and will chit chat with them but the idea of a 24/7 LTR is almost repulsive. I know guys my age who are married since their 20's. They are utterly trapped and they know it. They cant divorce unless they want to get raped and never retire. It is a sad thing
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 04:29 PM
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You should read the book "Women's Infidelity". It does a good job of explaining true female nature and the switch in their pin heads that allows them to "turn off" love seemingly overnight. Actually, when they flip the switch to off they have been preparing for it for months, even years, and more often than not they have another guy lined up to replace you. They are just really good at hiding that fact until they are ready and you are dead to them. good book. And it was written by a woman... LOL
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 04:15 PM
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that "statistic" about married men living longer is BS If they would include all the divorced men into that statistic you would find that married/formerly married/divorced men do not live longer. The real statistic should be married/divorced men compared to never married men.
/r/MGTOW14/06/16 09:55 PM
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this messed up bitch is now a therapist? figures the sexbots cant come soon enough.
/r/MGTOW14/06/16 05:17 PM
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math, Love your well thought out posts. Wish I could write so well.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 02:39 PM
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This is yet another reason women will never be a significant factor in STEM fields (unless they force the govt to enforce hiring quotas). Its all about the bell curves and evolutionary biology. Very few women in the IQ>120 range which is the range that dominates in STEM.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 04:16 PM
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this video still cracks me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:47 PM
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one of the best looking engagement rings I ever saw was a CZ. Turns out the reason they are more brilliant is they have no color at all while most diamonds do
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:44 PM
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wish he would channel Hemingway and learn the concept of "brevity"
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:35 PM
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viscera... cleaning up guts??
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:05 PM
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I agree. I just read the book "Women's Infidelity" by Michelle Langley. Highly recommended MGTOW read. Basically women can never fully commit like a man. They operate on "feelz" and emotion and refuse to take full responsibility for their actions. They will hold onto these feelings (brain chemicals) for as long as they can and will maintain the relationship until the feelings are gone and they can leave (usually into another relationship). They always seem to have a backup plan or a backup guy t…
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 01:06 PM
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I've owned 4 motorcycles, all of them when I was in my teens and twenties. I had many close calls and realized it was only a matter of time. Doesn't matter how good a rider you are, some fool can take you out and instead of an airbag in your face you are splattered all over the highway. But I look at those big Indians and just drool over them. Might pick one up just to putt around my local countryside on a safe weekday morning and try to stay alive on it.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 04:15 PM
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the one and only thing we so called "MGTOW" have in common is an awareness of the true reality of women and modern relationships/marriage, etc. That's why 99% of the discussion here is about that sad reality. I belong to a club that is 100% men that enjoy this particular hobby/sport. To be honest out of the 100+ guys in that club I am true friends with only half a dozen. Another half a dozen I really cant stand and the rest are pretty much invisible to me. The common bond is the actual activity …
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 09:42 PM
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like trying to herd cats....
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 09:37 PM
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might mean no more cocaine
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 09:10 PM
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I think that story about the child support card was debunked. Still a great idea though. what needs to happen is not about repealing no fault divorce. What is really needed it the elimination of alimony and a modification of child support along the lines of the CS card idea where a woman has to prove she is spending the CS money FOR THE GOOD OF THE CHILD and not on her new car payment or vacation or her 100th pair of shoes or her $200 hairdo..
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 02:45 PM
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guys don't seek validation from porn like women do with their faces glued to their smart phones with all the "likes/tinder" and on and on . Porn for men is just a masturbation tool. The female mind is wired different than the male mind. Female evolutionary biology and modern tech (smart phones, tinder, etc) is bringing out their base instincts in full force.
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 02:30 PM
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agree with you 12guage. Your story is pretty much my version of "going my own way" from my 20's to my early 50's. Now, thankfully, done with women permanently. But it was sure fun and luckily I survived the mine field intact in spite of all the dumb things I did.
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 02:23 PM
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its all about the validation for most of these women. My last girlfriend told me she deleted her match.com account when we started dating. Turns out she didn't. There were something like 150 guys interested in her. Now she was a good looking woman but the pics she posted made her out to be a 10. She had no intention of dating any of these guys, she was just literally addicted to the attention and validation. Boy am I glad that dumb bitch is gone from my life.
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 02:15 PM
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I never turned down sex from an attractive woman. Did turn down sex a few times from unattractive women (even when drunk) Never married one either. I recognized the plantation for what it was at an early age and steered clear.
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 01:54 PM
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agree. I can confirm. I read Warren Farrell's book "Why Men are the Way They Are" when it first came out in 1986 and it crystallized every thing I suspected. I was only 27 and this was before "red pill" and the internet. But I still loved sex and the company of women, I just knew I would never get married. But over time I became less focused on women and more on my own freedom and independence. After age 50 the decline in sex drive (I was high libido in my 20's to 40's) totally changed the pictu…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 11:45 PM
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indifference towards sex and romance... well, indifference towards romance is easy since for a lot of us it is a pain in the ass and just one more hoop to leap thru in order to get sex. Don't get me wrong, romance can be fun (as long as its not too expensive) but there is no biological drive (drug addiction) for romance like there is for sex. for me I did the bare minimum romance and tried to maximize the sex. Why give up on something as fun and exciting as sex so long as you are careful. Then a…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 05:46 PM
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I think it goes: the two best days in a boat owners life. the day he buys it and the day he sells it.
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 03:32 PM
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true dat... I imagine sex would be really good, a woman who believes she is going to get pregnant is really into it. You could even play along, tell her you really want to help her have a baby, you are really into kids, etc. then after a month or two of hot sex hit her with the "OOPSY, guess I forgot about my vasectomy"
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 03:27 PM
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tattoos and cigarettes.. instant turn off's beautiful young women with sleeve tattoos... should be a crime
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 01:56 PM
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Just as we encourage girls to be strong and confident, to enter STEM careers, and to be anything they want to be, we need to similarly encourage our sons to embrace female-dominated HEAL careers (health, education, administrative, literacy) complete BULLSHIT HEAL careers..... LOL what the hell is a "literacy" career?? I think they just needed an "L" to spell HEAL
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 04:23 PM
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“Women are more forgiven because it’s the struggle of being a certain type of powerful woman,” she says. “You were a different person when you began the relationship. And he’s just not.” as has been stated here many times: A man's biggest mistake is believing his woman wont change. A woman's biggest mistake is believing her man will change.
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 03:44 PM
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Robin Williams should be a lesson to all these guys
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 03:10 PM
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agree. I had a lot of good times with women (mostly sex) for nearly 40 years. Never married or even considered marriage seriously and only once co-habituated which was the only really bad mistake I made. Now at age 57 I have no more interest. Its amazing how different women look now that my hormones have died down. We men are truly hostage to these hormones for most of our lives. I say enjoy them while you can because it WONT LAST.
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 02:51 PM
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I'll never understand why any of these "A" list Hollywood guys get married. They can have any woman they want. Dicaprio is the only one of them with any brains at all
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 04:19 PM
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by your logic since a majority of women have rape fantasies they are equally responsible for "rape culture". Or are rape fantasies, both in female and male minds, off limits?
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 03:24 PM
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I think separating STEM majors into their own colleges would be a good idea. That would mean 90% men and 10% unattractive women. Let the humanities, gender studies, psychology majors, etc. have their own crappy colleges.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 03:16 PM
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My last relationshit ended very badly and I went thru an anger phase. My commute to work took me right by her house. For a year every time I passed her house I would yell "CUUUUUUNT!!!" as loud and drawn out as I could (with my car windows rolled up). Then I would end up laughing, it was really a cathartic release and cracked me up every time. After a year of this I no longer had any anger left. I even saw her with her new boyfriend a couple months ago and my only feelings were, "that poor SOB, …
/r/MGTOW23/05/16 03:31 PM
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3 million is the "new" 1 million
/r/MGTOW23/05/16 02:24 PM
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will no longer date men who come out as mentally ill or with substance abuse issues or any other issues that will force me take on a masculine role. i learned my lesson wow... I don't think I've ever seen a woman post here on the MGTOW subreddit. Hope you stick around, I'm getting a little tired of all the Butt hurt around here. I think your post can be put into the category of "where have all the good men gone?" Unfortunately, probably only 10-20% of men fit the modern western woman's definitio…
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 01:03 PM
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with the exception of a real woman's brain yea right... that's just what we need, an advanced VR sexbot that excels in Facebook/Twitter chit chat boring shit I'm counting on advanced AI making the VR sex experience go way beyond the average boring crap conversations "real" women continuously spew. Its not here yet but give it another 10 years.
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 05:02 PM
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OP, this is the life I could see when I was 26 or 27 and considering the possibility of marriage with the "Nawalt" I was dating at the time. When I look back, of the 25 or so LTR's I experienced in my life (I'm 57, never married) she was probably the only one that I might have had a chance of a successful marriage with. BUT.... I never wanted kids and thought long and hard about what it would be like to lose my freedom, to be forced to compromise, to do things I really did not want to do (like v…
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 03:43 PM
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LOL, yea, especially read the old testament there is a lot of sick, psycho shit there
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 02:58 PM
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I agree. I am 57, never married, never will marry. But I have known a few happily married men in true "till death do we part" long marriages. I am just guessing based on my experience and observations and I would put the number of truly successful marriages at somewhere around 10%, certainly less than 15-20%. 50% are outright failures and 30-40% are in some stage of long term misery, deadbedroom, cheaper to keep her, stay together for the kids, etc. The "stay together for the kids" type marriage…
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 03:20 PM
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to think that some poor fool out there is stuck in this bitch's web young MGTOW's... DONT stick your dick in CRAZY!
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 03:36 PM
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or as idiot Bush would say: fool me once, shame on you fool me twice... uh, uh, uh.... You cant get fooled again!!
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 07:36 PM
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yes but the key is how much do you pay for it? I had lots of sex with a variety of women in my life and paid relatively very little, which is why they would dump me after realizing that while I had a fat wallet (high paying career) they were not going to be able to pry it out of my hands. Needless to say, I never married
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 04:45 PM
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20 years ago when I was mid 30s probably 80-90% of my peers had married. About half divorced
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 04:06 PM
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agree completely. It may be true that women only see the top 20% of men. But men do the same thing, only with a much larger group of women. The bottom 30% of women are pretty much invisible to men (horribly obese, fugly, etc). But men still see a much larger group of acceptable women than women see of men. Probably why women initiate 70% of divorces, they are disappointed in their men and thanks to modern media can see that top 20% of men constantly reminding them of their loser husbands.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:47 PM
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been center-left my whole life and could not disagree more with the OP. Probably more blue pill republicans than in any other political group. Libertarians are just delusional.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:41 PM
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you sir, are a wise man
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:29 PM
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I became motivated to improve my situation by working several low paying hard shitty jobs when I was young. Started working at age 16 and by age 22 realized I could not go thru life working like that. It wasn't just the low pay and physical hardship, it was the BOREDOM. I could not stand it. I needed an interesting, high paying, non physical CAREER. It turned out to be engineering and I loved it and it provided a level of respect and high pay that I parlayed into financial independence. Women we…
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:20 PM
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This chart doesn't look right. The MGTOW circle has way too much overlap with PUA and MRM. It should actually be its own circle almost completely separate from the PUA and MRM circles and contain only a few items. Items like Never Marry and Self Validation and Freedom. Some aspects of "Red Pill" are about the only thing these Manosphere groups have in common. This woman lecturer does not understand MGTOW at all.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:07 PM
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Betas don't bother me. Neither do stupid people. Violent people do bother me but we can lock them up and remove them from society. I feel fortunate to be able to coast thru this modern society with all its advantages and relative ease of survival. For this I credit these Betas who keep things going, build and maintain this good life. I was never "Beta" or "Alpha". I'm not type A, if I see some idiot doing something stupid, like driving crazy down the freeway, I give them plenty of room. I am tha…
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 03:43 PM
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what about Bonobo "society"? too bad we split from the chimps (violent, alpha/beta) instead of the Bonobos (make love not war)
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 03:37 PM
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no shit, can completely relate to this. In one place I lived I built a custom bike rack on my living room wall and hung my bicycle on it like a sculpture. It was beautiful. Never could do that with a woman in the house.
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 04:35 PM
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maybe before the 1960's in Beaver Cleaver land. I'm 57, never married, no kids, a life long bachelor. Never experienced what you say. If anything, I was ahead of my time and now the idea of remaining single for life is completely accepted.
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 04:31 PM
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I've noticed this too. Its like they have a 6th sense and can read in me that I have no interest or need. I look at them and see an irrational mediocre man. But I am always polite towards women, I have no anger or hostility towards them, just simply not interested. Maybe I am putting out some vibe or body language or they see something in my eyes. Girlfriends and wives are especially wary of me, like I am some kind of threat.
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 06:02 PM
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its simple logic... no wife = freedom and LOTS more money freedom and LOTS more money = happy Life therefore, no wife = happy Life the end
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 05:01 PM
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Why Men Are The Way They Are (should be subtitled "Why Women Are So Fucked Up" LOL) by Warren Farrell should be at the top of any MGTOW must read books list also The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion, both by Richard Dawkins. Ultimate in red pill reading
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 04:33 PM
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I saw that one or one based on the same theme. The one I saw had the two groups of about 5 or 6 each on the same island. they were given some basic materials to build fire, shelter, find food, etc. It was hilarious, the men had a roaring fire going, a good shelter, food, etc. The women had this shitty shelter and managed a small fire. A rain/wind storm hit and put out the womens fire (poor location) and blew their shelter all to shit. They were sitting there in the rain, cold, wet and starving. …
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 04:16 PM
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Farce awakens was shit. I'll bet Harrison Ford is glad he got killed off.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 03:54 PM
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Women's primary fantasy is security and children. A man is necessary for both and for a time she can "love" the man and give him the intimacy and sex he craves, at least long enough to achieve her goal. But this fades as does her sex drive towards her husband once she as attained her primary fantasy (children, big house, wage slave husband, etc.). Now he is stuck and frustrated with the "deadbedroom" situation begging for "duty" sex once a month. She has achieved her primary fantasy and the man …
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 01:03 PM
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yes. Also the incessant accusations of "male privilege". Pure projection. No one is more privileged in our modern society (built by MEN) than today's woman.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 12:51 PM
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this is the reason women will never be a large factor in STEM fields. there just aren't enough of them in the 120+ IQ range. Its probably 10 men for every one or two women in the high IQ range required to be successful and a meaningful contributor in STEM. And they cant force government to dumb it down in STEM fields to allow more entry or quotas because our nation would lose its competitive edge to other nations. So they are stuck whining and bitching and fighting with huge cognitive dissonance…
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 05:40 PM
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one thing for sure, women spend a huge amount on clothing, beauty products, hair salons, etc. Also auto maintenance/repairs, unbelievable how they get ripped off in that area. factor in big houses, furniture, redecorating, expensive dining out, $10 Starbucks every day, and especially kids and its easy to see that our consumer economy would crash if it weren't for women, marriage, kids, and the divorce/alimony/child support industry. Women don't save, they SPEND and even more important, they caus…
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 03:36 PM
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I can take higher risks; because I have less to worry about elsewhere. This is very true. I took huge financial risks that I would never have done had I had a wife and kids. And I am pretty sure I would have ended up divorced after losing my fortune twice. Women absolutely hate risks, especially financial risks. I learned the hard way that my "risk tolerance" is very high. Higher than most men I've known and much higher than virtually all women. For me it was all a valuable part of the learning …
/r/MGTOW26/04/16 02:12 PM
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I sort of agree with you about the wall. It still exists in the hard reality of RL but not in the minds of a lot of women because of social media as you stated. I witnessed this with my last girlfriend. She was late 40's and for her age still very attractive. I think she honestly believed she was still as hot as she was in her 20's (a solid 9 back then). She had a huge ego and would always make sure everyone knew she could fit in the clothes of her 25 year old daughter-in-law. I thought she had …
/r/MGTOW25/04/16 05:05 PM
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I broke all the "rules" and somehow survived a 30 year career as an engineer in a fortune 500 corp. Don't date co-workers. I did, not once, not twice, but four times. Stupid I know, but I was weak and could not resist. I was lucky, all four of them got married and quit the company. DO NOT let anything remotely non-PC get on any email. This is deadly and I've seen people fired for "off color" jokes that were there in print on email. Be very careful when surfing the web on your work computer. Ever…
/r/MGTOW24/04/16 03:10 PM
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same here. Nothing limits freedom like women and children. The ONLY reason I can see for marriage is if a man really wants children. I never did so the choice was very easy for me. And I was lucky to learn at a young age that marriage in no way guarantees a life long reliable supply of sex and intimacy. I figured out the true nature of women even before I read Warren Farrell's "Why Men Are The Way They Are" when I was 26 back in the mid 80's. That book confirmed my suspicions and basically chang…
/r/MGTOW23/04/16 04:37 PM
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this woman is not "alpha". She is too angry to be alpha. There is nothing intimidating about her, just disgusting. I dated a true alpha woman once. She was a very successful, award winning interior designer and a genuinely nice person. But she was also an extreme workaholic and could never relax, never wasted a single second of the day. It literally wore me out just being around her. I just couldn't go 100 mph all the time like that and was relieved when the relationship ended. That was 15 years…
/r/MGTOW22/04/16 03:41 PM
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Alpha men are opinionated, picky, aggressive and sarcastic because they are alpha. I knew many "Alpha" men during my 30 year career in a fortune 500 corporation. What you are describing is NOT alpha behavior. It is irritating "wanna-be alpha" behavior. True alpha's (in the business corporate world) are charismatic, they are workaholics and natural leaders, not at all what you seem to think.
/r/MGTOW22/04/16 03:34 PM
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only $800 per month? At your income level you got off easy when it comes to life time vaginamony. Of course there is no guarantee she wont haul you back into court to increase the payout in the future. And that just SUCKS!! I experienced the other side of your situation. I lived with a woman for two years who had just divorced her wealthy husband. She had been married to him for 20 years and they (actually "he") had built up a very successful business starting with nothing. Three years into thei…
/r/MGTOW21/04/16 04:12 PM
2

addiction??? how about the millions of women walking around with their faces glued to their smart phones? to Facebook? its not like they are communicating or discussing anything remotely intellectual, its all just mindless validation, echo chamber bullshit, something the female brain is hardwired for addiction to. unrealistic sexual expectations of themselves and potential partners. how about the "unrealistic sexual expectation" that if a man marries a woman he will be guaranteed a regular suppl…
/r/MGTOW20/04/16 02:17 PM
1

But you sound like you're looking for something to make it all mean something. Go find someone. It's going to hurt sometimes, but that part of life is about the contrasts anyways. sheesh... talk about shit for brains advice.... seriously?? contrasts? LOL
/r/MGTOW20/04/16 12:59 PM
6

I'm a white guy and I have a lot of respect for Mexican men (first generation immigrant laborers). They are the hardest working SOB's I've ever met (their USA born kids not so much unfortunately). I used to hang out in a bar out in the middle of nowhere next to the Watsonville, Calif strawberry fields, no one but myself and the bartender could speak English. I had more fun in that bar with those guys shooting pool and drinking Mexican beers and listening to their folk music band with those huge …
/r/MGTOW19/04/16 04:05 PM
1

damn... is basic math that hard? I learned the concepts of saving and interest when I was 8. My nephew is 19. He doesn't know what he wants to do. I told him when I was his age I just partied and didn't worry about it. Three majors and 8 years of JC and state college/university later I graduated with an electrical engineering degree, $2,000 total debt and basically nothing but the clothes on my back. Is college more expensive today? Yes and No. I looked into it and these days a LOT can be accomp…
/r/MGTOW18/04/16 05:26 PM
1

200 that's the number. should be tattooed on the modern woman. This product is good for 200 uses, or, expires in two years or 200 fucks, whichever comes first. The first indication that the expiration date is approaching are the small excuses to put off or delay sex. Morning sex is usually the first to go, "not right now, how about tonight?". Then that starts to go as well, pretty soon you go from 3-5 to 2 to 1 time per week. It takes longer and longer to "warm her up". If you were lucky enough …
/r/MGTOW17/04/16 02:42 PM
1

I've only experienced an anger phase once and it lasted about 6 months. I passed her house on my daily commute and would yell "CUUUUUNT!!!" as loud as I could. That would always crack me up and really felt good. After about 6 months the anger passed and I stopped my "yell cunt therapy sessions"
/r/MGTOW16/04/16 05:05 PM
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hope you really love her. German women don't age very well, tend to get stocky and fat
/r/MGTOW16/04/16 04:44 PM
2

the BEST used cars are the Toyota Corolla or Toyota Tacoma pickup (1995 or newer, get the 2 whl drive). You can drive them to 300+ thousand miles. they are not the cheapest used cars but will outlast just about everything out there so actual cost to own is the cheapest over the long haul. Corolla gets good gas mileage but pickup more useful. I've owned two corollas and five Toyota pickups over the last 40 years. The two corollas and the first three pickups were used, the last two pickups I bough…
/r/MGTOW16/04/16 04:16 PM
3

you are right about the unrealistic high hopes. I've disappointed every single woman I've had a relationship with. and that's a GOOD thing!
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 09:24 PM
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I've had a few flip on me seemingly overnight, like a switch that turns on or off in their head that they really aren't aware of until it happens and then when it does they can rationalize it away as if nothing has changed. One woman I dated seemed to be a Nawalt and then practically overnight became a born again Xtian (I'm an atheist and have zero tolerance for that delusional BS). Another seemed perfectly happy with our relationship and then found someone on FaceFuck and went from loving to a …
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 09:21 PM
2

tru dat I once worked as an insulator as a young man. Horrible shitty dangerous job, especially insulating older houses. I did it for a year and hated every minute of it, heat exhaustion in 150 degree attics, dangerous scaffolding, bugs, spiderwebs and dead animals in the crawl spaces under 100 year old houses, the fiberglass insulation got into my skin so bad I could barely sleep. You will NEVER see a woman doing that job. A couple others are hot tar roofer and drywaller. Also road construction…
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 02:18 PM
1

RC aeromodelling I've been doing this hobby for over 40 years. Pretty much zero women and I'm pretty sure it will always be that way. Girlfriends show up and pretend interest but once they marry you never see them again except for the club year end dinner/awards ceremony. I did see one woman who was a master model builder and a good pilot. The models and build documentation on her website is just incredible. Then I dug a little deeper into her website and discovered she is Lesbian... that made c…
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 02:07 PM
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nice.. boyz and toyz I spend maybe $200 a year on cheap clothes, women take one look at my well worn comfortable boots and run for the exits. But $1000 for a custom bamboo flyrod?? $5000 for a carbon bike?? no problem, no "discussion", no "justifying", no BULLSHIT I actually have to hide my assets from my single mom sister. She's a greedy little thing and very foolish with money. It would cause huge problems if my family knew my true worth.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 01:05 PM
2

seriously? wow... pure trouble there
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 04:48 PM
1

Those who love women, treat them as they would their own daughters ???? isn't that incest?
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 04:30 PM
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victim, victim, victim, VICTIM!!!! fuck that bitch. I ran into women like this in my engineering career. At first I treated them just like I treated male engineers, honest and to the point, if they made a mistake or designed something poorly I would tell them straight up and try to help them correct it. BIG MISTAKE. It was like walking on eggshells and I am NO psychologist, not even close. The most insecure, fragile egos of all are women in tech jobs (not all of them but most). I ended up in pos…
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 04:09 PM
2

you are a true voice of reason MCarz. ALWAYS enjoy your posts.
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 03:57 PM
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agree with you hipst. These control freaks are a real pain. Let the newbies and butthurts vent. Ignore them if you don't like it. This site is more of a path towards MGTOW than actual MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 03:55 PM
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1.Marriage makes you live longer Fact: Divorced men live shorter lives its interesting that divorced men are not lumped in with married men in these studies. They are considered single men. Single, never married men live as long or longer than married, never divorced men.
/r/MGTOW11/04/16 04:54 PM
0

agree, I nearly walked out it was so bad. Wonder how much they paid Mark Hamil for his bit at the end. How did he ever manage to memorize all those lines?! LOL
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 01:16 PM
2

One problem is you are stuck at the various airports unless you want to rent a car. A friend of mine owns two airplanes and as a hobby it is a HUGE money pit. He is forever sinking money into those planes. Makes my cycling, fishing, RC model flying hobbies seem dirt cheap in comparison. But he absolutely loves to fly and for him it is worth it.
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 01:01 PM
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The Mormon's had a pretty active church in the small town I grew up in. And a lot of the Mormon girls were pretty good looking. Two of my best friends fell in love with Mormon girls and got sucked into that fucked up cult for a while. They managed to get out but the indoctrination process to become a member (and their Mormon girlfriends) messed with their heads pretty good.
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 12:52 PM
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A higher developed country would mean me not knowing if my money will survive till the day I die 51 years old, 6.3 million and you make a statement like this? sorry guy... I smell bullshit
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 12:42 PM
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most Asians don't handle alcohol very well. Low tolerance. They are usually small in size which doesn't help plus they don't seem to know when to stop. I remember the year I spent in a college dorm and we had a bunch of Japanese exchange students. They would do these singing parties where each would sing a song and then take a drink. Pretty much all of them ended up in the bathroom puking their guts out. But they sure seemed to be having fun. Later on in my career I worked in an office with 4 en…
/r/MGTOW09/04/16 05:24 PM
1

look at it from a "glass is half full" perspective. The fact that the majority of muricans don't have their shit together and are led around by their noses by the corp news media, Limbaugh, assholes like Trump, etc. means that the competition for the best higher paying jobs is WEAK. Trust me, its not that hard to succeed in this environment if you have a little discipline and some brains. When I see the multitudes of these fools I feel like thanking them for making it relatively easy for me. I m…
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 02:48 PM
2

In my career I was surrounded by poor bastards like this guy. I could hear them on the phone with that pleading voice talking to their wives. I could see them trying to rejuvenate their "deadbedroom" marriages, trying to hold it together. Too late. MGTOW just not a real option for these guys, they would not be able to handle solitude, real freedom. For many it was divorce rape and then putting off retirement for who knows how many years more. The last one, just before I retired, got up in front …
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 01:47 PM
1

for most STEM jobs you really need the degree to open doors and provide more opportunities. 95% of what you learn in college has little to no application in the real world, you will learn all that on the job (I'm talking engineering, don't know about computer science). I aced calculus, diff equations, physics, etc. in my electrical engr major and NEVER used any of that in my career. I really think the purpose of those courses is to train the mind and weed out the inferior brains. I too found lec…
/r/MGTOW07/04/16 04:30 PM
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its not theft if the guy willingly pays. Maybe a con or deception if the woman leads him on but still, I've no sympathy for suckers. I was always a "cheap date" and knew exactly the game that was going on. Not many second dates but the women who did go for a second date knowing my thriftiness usually ended up being my girlfriend (for a little while). I could get away with this because in my youth I was good looking, smart, had a sense of humor, had a great career and future. I think just about e…
/r/MGTOW07/04/16 04:03 PM
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I lived with a woman for a couple years awhile back. I remember her parting shot, "You don't do ANYTHING!!". I think of all the shit I built/remodeled/fixed/repaired (her house). The places I took her, taught her how to fish, got her into bicycling. To my mind I did more stuff during that couple years than I ever did with any previous woman. But in her pin head it was always whats next..... "I'm bored.... entertain ME!!"
/r/MGTOW06/04/16 01:29 PM
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sorry guy but sex for me was always way, WAY better than Pamela Handerson. I loved the "high" too much.... I was high libido all way into my mid 40's. No regrets (but I was damn lucky getting thru the minefield unscathed)
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 03:36 PM
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this crap is why divorced guys don't live as long. In my career I worked with many men who literally can never retire because they were wiped out by divorce/alimony/child support, their assets gone and pensions slashed. I know deep down that had I married I would have been one of these guys. How they can deal with the rage after being raped like that I will never know.
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 03:24 PM
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old women are HOT. I love the saggy boobs, turkey necks and those upper lip vertical wrinkles. The cloud of suffocating perfume is a real turn on! and do you young MGTOW realize that old women snore? At least I cant hear myself snore. Google Lee Grant. The transformative power of cosmetic surgery is amazing!
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 01:53 PM
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two women interview for a decent office job. Both are equally qualified. One has a sleeve tattoo. Who gets hired? at least the nose/tongue/lip piercings can heal up and disappear in a few months. Those huge tats/hoop ear lobes not so much.
/r/MGTOW04/04/16 06:18 PM
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good on you! pretty much exactly what I did. 1981, age 22 and realized I needed to get my shit together. Talked my dad into letting me move back home so I could commute to college to study engineering. He was reluctant (because of my 5 years of partying and fucking up after high school) but relented. No way could I have completed an engineering degree and worked/rented at the same time. Graduated in 1985 with a total of $2K debt (paid off two months into my career) and driving a shitbox corolla …
/r/MGTOW04/04/16 04:33 PM
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"lie by omission" tru dat. I never openly lied to a woman but became somewhat expert at avoidance and steering the conversation. Well, maybe I somewhat lied occasionally, especially if the subject of children came up. This can only last so long and women would invariably dump my MGTOW ass. But by then the "sweet spot" was fading fast and I definitely noticed how it would take more and more to "warm her up". In my experience "sweet spots" had a life expectancy of 1-3 years. Things I've read about…
/r/MGTOW02/04/16 02:00 PM
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great post. Its coming but I wont live long enough to see the final product, probably 50 years out minimum. But advanced VR porn and some sort of hybrid VR+sex device will be here very soon. Also AI will become a huge factor for "total immersion". All of this will become a viable ALTERNATIVE for millions of men. It will set them free. As for that Mod that hates this subject and these posts this has nothing to do with anger/hate/revenge, etc. towards women that we do see too much of here on a who…
/r/MGTOW02/04/16 12:51 PM
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just what was that software Neo sold that guy with the white rabbit girl at the beginning of the movie?? I think it was advanced VR Porn
/r/MGTOW31/03/16 05:09 PM
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damn, that was bad. should be a law against this sort of thing. That bitch should serve some jail time and a huge fine
/r/MGTOW31/03/16 02:54 PM
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I am 57, never married, no kids. Your account is what I feared to be the basic truth when I was a young man (before red pill, mgtow, etc). Thank god I figured this out in time. My parents never divorced but their marriage was a large factor in my figuring out the basics of LTR, marriage, kids etc. and the realization that there was no way I could go thru that. I figure my dad had about 2 good years of honeymoon, etc before we kids came along and my mom transferred about 99% of her attention away…
/r/MGTOW30/03/16 04:56 PM
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sad but I can see the crazy in those eyes. Any man that would marry a woman that unstable would be doomed. I've known two beautiful women that hanged themselves. Missuse of anti-depressants was involved in both cases
/r/MGTOW29/03/16 05:21 PM
1

Warren Farrell published "Why Men Are The Way They Are" in 1986. That book crystallized the red pill within me and changed my life. Great wisdom there. Definitely should be at the top of the list in the sidebar here.
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 04:16 PM
1

"eyes wide open" that should be the title of a required class in high school. All male senior high school students should be required to take this class before blindly venturing into the minefield of modern western life
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 04:09 PM
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they could make that show a lot more entertaining if they would introduce sex into the script. Just how hungry would a woman have to be before she is willing to trade sex for food and shelter?
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 04:06 PM
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they cant build or create anything. They don't understand or want to understand how to use tools, how to fix, maintain, repair, how to do anything related to automobiles, most cant even change a tire or figure out how to check the oil. Worst of all they don't understand and are not interested in anything financial. They don't understand investing, debt, budgeting, opportunity costs, delayed gratification. I finally gave up on trying to impart this wisdom and experience. Got tired of listening to…
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 03:45 PM
1

In this modern world men are not disposable. That is another "Big Lie" that we don't question as we should. If men did not build and maintain this world our infrastructure would collapse in short order. With 7 billion humans overpopulating the planet I would argue that it is women that are disposable. If women stopped working NOTHING would happen except that Starbucks would be hurting for some more employees. Of course, without women purchasing tons of useless shit our capitalist consumer societ…
/r/MGTOW27/03/16 04:14 PM
1

I never wanted kids or marriage so never really experienced a rage phase. More like a reality check/dissallusionment phase. Read Warren Farrell's book "Why Men are the Way They Are". I read it at age 26 when it was first published in the mid '80's. That book changed my life and the reality between men and women finally became clear.
/r/MGTOW25/03/16 04:38 PM
3

you forgot the biggest red pill of all.. The God Delusion
/r/MGTOW25/03/16 04:35 PM
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yes, the beginning of the end. It always starts this way. I sort of figured this reddit was too free and open to last.
/r/MGTOW23/03/16 03:52 PM
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same here. OP is out of line. Assuming "revenge" in a discussion about sex bots/VR porn?? Just STUPID. Those posts discussing this new tech are some of the most interesting here. I don't see the revenge/hate at all. There ARE some posts that do express revenge/hate that are indeed "cringeworthy" but have nothing to do with sexbots. Think I'll be spending less time here if the mods decide to start breaking rules #6 and #7
/r/MGTOW23/03/16 03:47 PM
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here in the USA I really don't see any stigma attached to life long bachelorhood. There are now more single people here than married people. In my 20's I did experience some animosity from the girlfriends of guys I knew. They could sense I was a threat to their primary fantasy of marriage/kids/etc. After they married I usually lost touch with those guys but just as well, it was no longer much fun hanging around with a married friend, they had changed, usually they lost most of their sense of hum…
/r/MGTOW23/03/16 03:32 PM
1

there goes the kids college account... LOL
/r/MGTOW23/03/16 03:12 PM
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sorry, cant relate to this AT ALL. If anything I have the opposite problem, an intense desire to get away from people if I am around them too long. I have zero interest in facebook, instagram, social media,etc. Most people seem to need boring chit chat. Not me. I can usually tolerate it for a few minutes at most. Have you ever been cornered by an intensely boring guy who can talk endlessly about NOTHING and has mastered the art of not letting you get a word in edgewise, basically preventing you …
/r/MGTOW22/03/16 02:46 PM
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it has always amazed me how the female hamster can flip on a dime. I've experienced this many times, a girlfriend will tell me she loves me with complete conviction, she really means it and I really believe she believes what she says. But I know the reality that will come crashing in. A few months or years later the switch in her pin head flips and its over, null and void. And she has no problem with this, her ability to "rationalize" the new reality and see no inconsistency or dishonesty is com…
/r/MGTOW22/03/16 01:27 PM
1

there are outliers. Mary Cassatt comes to mind
/r/MGTOW21/03/16 06:25 PM
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no shit. I have been in bad situations twice in my life where I needed help from a girlfriend and both times they turned into panicked scared little children. Worse than useless.
/r/MGTOW20/03/16 03:10 PM
1

I take a "glass is half full" perspective. When I see a man or a woman doing something stupid I realize this is only natural, part of human nature. In this competitive world the fact that a majority are foolish/stupid makes competing fairly easy. I'm no genious so how did I end up in a high paying professional career? Because most of the "competition" was pretty lame. How do I make so much money thru my investments? Because I bet against the herd. If I see some idiot driving down the highway lik…
/r/MGTOW20/03/16 02:28 PM
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However, i do have my moments of sadness at the dissolution of the fantasy of happily ever after same here. I was never angry, just sad and disappointed when I learned the reality (red pill) in my 20's. I really wanted to believe the fantasy but actual evidence kept overwhelming my rational brain. Luckily that sadness fades away by the time you hit your 40's. After that the feeling is more one of relief and freedom. Someone here posted a true thing I saw a while back: The mistake men make is the…
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:43 PM
1

yes, feeling trapped is the worst feeling of all. traps: lack of money, stuck in low paying boring job women/marriage (even co-habitation which I found out about the hard way) bad health
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 05:48 PM
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I recently retired at age 56 after a 30 year engineering career. The first 26-27 years were great, very hands on. I stayed at the hands on level and refused all promotions into management thruout my career. Then management changed and the reorgs started and clueless managers started stripping the engineers of various duties trying to specialize them into small categories, more project management, more paper work, METRICS (god how I came to hate the BS metrics). So the last 2 years I started look…
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 05:40 PM
1

whats even more important than the 4 points of greater IQ that on average men have over women is the bell curve distribution of IQ. Women are concentrated around the mean while men are more spread out in both the lower and higher IQ range. There are far, far more men with IQ's above 120 than women. It is here that our science, technology, etc., is advanced.
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 05:22 PM
1

oh yea???? did men invent needlepoint?? knitting? quilting? gender studies??? did they??! hmmm????
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 04:20 PM
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30 and no kids? aahahahahaaaaa...... dude you are in big trouble get a vasectomy NOW!!!!!
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 04:16 PM
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he would chew his arm off to avoid waking up the beast. BTDT
/r/MGTOW18/03/16 04:14 PM
1

seriously?? religion is complete bullshit. I figured that out at about age 10. Religion/gods/Jeebus is only an imaginary friend for grownups. my only interest is TRUTH. The only path to truth is the scientific method. Darwin is my Hero.
/r/MGTOW15/03/16 08:54 PM
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In my 30 year engineering career I worked in many all male offices and you are right, lots of "off color" joking around. It was amazing how the office environment would change when a female engineer got a job in the group. Definitely a downer, you had to watch what you said and still the occasional slip of the tongue and then worrying about HR repercussions. I myself came up on "Positive Discipline" twice in my career for creating a "hostile work environment", luckily I survived it. I learned to…
/r/MGTOW15/03/16 01:02 PM
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57 here. I came of age in the '70's in small town Calif. It was a much simpler time. Socializing was face to face. You are right, Blue pill ruled the day, everyone I knew was married before age 25. Now most of them are divorced and remarried, a very few stayed single after divorce. After 25 I was pretty much alone in the wilderness as a confirmed bachelor. I made the right decision though I did come close to marrying a couple times, just couldn't pull the pin. The internet has really opened up a…
/r/MGTOW15/03/16 12:54 PM
1

the whole "pretend" thing she tells him is spot on. Boy have I ever experienced that with women, even almost believed them a couple times
/r/MGTOW14/03/16 06:42 PM
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But shit, is this what happens in marriage, too? In most marriages the woman will transfer her interest and energy to the children and lose interest in the man. Her only interest in him will be that he continues in a responsible provider role. I've seen this happen over and over. Even happened to my mom. I think at most a man has about 2-3 years of "happy marriage" and then a couple decades of misery until the kids are gone (or divorce/alimony/CS for 50% of the poor suckers). If the marriage sur…
/r/MGTOW13/03/16 06:00 PM
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There is tremendous power in learning to say NO. It gets easier over time. I have avoided a lot of trouble in my life thru "NO"
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 06:40 PM
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there are some real horror stories over at /r/deadbedroom. I read a few dozen of them but got bored as they are all pretty much the same pathetic story. Younger MGTOW should definitely read that subreddit before they venture into the minefield
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 03:48 PM
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another military "Dependopatomus" sitting on her fat ass for years probably on facebook and watching the tube all day every day. The dude is damn lucky there are no kids.
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 03:39 PM
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I was once nearly pregnancy trapped when I was 20. Scared the shit out of me and I was frantically doing the math. I lucked out and the dude she fucked while I was away at college that fall stepped up and married her. 25 years later she divorce raped him for all he was worth.
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 03:31 PM
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no shit. I trained probably 18-20 engineers in my 30 year career. There was a steep learning curve and it would take a couple years to get them going. 2 of them were women and they both quit about 5-7 years into their careers to have kids. They never came back (one did for a little while part time but did not last). Some of the male engineers quit my company as well..... to go to another company. My time was not wasted on them.
/r/MGTOW11/03/16 05:33 PM
1

the sad fact of our modern western life is that most men will only come to a "MGTOW" realization AFTER they get their legs blown off in the minefield of marriage/LTR/divorce/alimony/CS and all the rest of that shit. I would be interested to see some stats on the supposed 10,000 "MGTOW" here. What percentage never married, never had kids? Its a shame that young men of high school age don't get an education on what is really going on and what the alternatives really are until after they have made …
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 11:15 PM
1

good post. I've often thought about the "hard wiring" and that women are practically a different species. the solution?? VR PORN!!!! bring it on!!!!!
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 04:51 PM
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Financial freedom is simple in concept, difficult in execution. Its important to start young as it will take decades (for 99.999% of people). It is vital to have a PLAN. And STICK TO IT. It takes discipline to save a large percentage of income and learn to apply it thru investing. A good paying job is also important (I was an engineer, at retirement my base pay was $150K). Lots of mistakes are inevitable over a 30 year time frame, learning to take risks will involve mistakes but is important. So…
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 03:47 PM
1

yes, and worth every penny. I buy a few expensive things that I love and will provide for decades of satisfaction. Also, if you think about it, dirt cheap overall compared to marriage/kids/divorce/CS..... the important thing is when you buy an expensive thing, it has to be from expendable funds. It has to be fun money that does not impact the overall PLAN.
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 03:39 PM
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yet another reason I never married. My fiscal habits have always been a combination of personal frugality, extremely high savings rate, and high risk investing. In my various relationships with women over the years I soon realized that I was financially incompatible with ALL of them. They were very uncomfortable with my financial risk taking and could not understand my complete lack of interest in spending money on nice clothes/shoes while at the same time having no qualms about laying out $1,00…
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 07:39 PM
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Not reproducing is doing the responsible thing. There are far too many people on this planet. Its not like 100,000 years ago where our small hunter/gatherer tribe was in danger of extinction if we didn't reproduce. People who reproduce in this day and age are basically doing it for self gratification, not societal necessity.
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 07:24 PM
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I dont remember ever seeing a post on this forum by a woman. Can somebody point me to one?
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 07:21 PM
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VR porn will definitely be a game changer once it "matures". Coupled with believable AI so that the user can basically "build" his ideal 9 or 10 that is capable of a pseudo relationship will make it so completely immersive it will become widespread. I think you are correct about the "bluest of blue-pillars" getting sucked in as well. By believable AI I don't mean Turing Test self aware type AI, it can be much simpler than that which will mean its only maybe a dozen years or less from reality. I …
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 05:40 PM
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Chinese porn is thousands of years old
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 05:30 PM
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34B... mmmmmmmmm... my favorite
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 05:28 PM
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the 30's can be tough. In my 30's I was always in a relationship with a woman. But every single time I eventually got bored, did not put in the effort and they would leave (to my relief). I never wanted kids and could see no point in marriage unless you wanted kids/family, etc. Now I am 57, retired, financially independent and THANK THE GODS that I never married. It definitely gets easier to not think about women the older you get. And look around at 50 something married couples. Would you like …
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 05:21 PM
1

go over to the "deadbedroom" subreddit and do a little recreational reading. That will knock you off the fence. Unbelievable the hell those poor schmucks inflicted upon themselves. I would like to see some stats or studies on the percentage of the half of all marriages that are "successful" that are in fact deadbedroom roommate situations
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 05:07 PM
2

same is true for engineering.
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 04:31 PM
1

cant really blame them. their "lives" have basically been over for years. there is no life left in them
/r/MGTOW05/03/16 05:12 PM
1

no. the desire for sex distorts everything. In depth conversations on a variety of subjects was just about impossible with most the women I knew. Like one hand clapping. I got pretty sick of listening to myself talk, sounded more like a lecture so I just gave up and resorted to bullshit facebook type small talk. I did meet a couple interesting women but I was not physically attracted to them. The best looking women were the most boring. Also sex. there seems to be no correlation between looks an…
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 11:09 PM
2

two whole chickens on sale at my local discount grocer are $4-$5 each. Cut them up and they fit perfect on my Weber Performer grill in the center for indirect heating bbq. I do two at once to save on briquettes and they will last me most of a week. Get a quality instant thermometer like my thermapen (not cheap but the BEST). Pull the parts off at 160-165. Easy, very tasty and CHEAP. The Weber Performer is just a fantastic grill. My last GF had a monster $2000 stainless steel gas grill. Hated it.
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 06:13 PM
3

if I had an 11 year old daughter I would make her work (chores) for her smartphone and ALSO the monthly phone bill. A LOT of girls/women never learn the true value of things and end up entitled, spoiled bitches
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 05:26 PM
1

Instant Pot IP-DUO60 7-in-1 Multi-Functional Pressure Cooker, 6Qt/1000W best appliance I have ever owned. Does it all. If I only had one appliance it would be this. About $120 thru Amazon. I mostly use it as a slow cooker (crock pot) but is also a fantastic pressure cooker
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 03:02 PM
1

damn... I could never walk away from pussy like that (when I was young and horny). Could never commit to it either
/r/MGTOW02/03/16 05:54 PM
1

letting her into your house is a mistake. Should have hosed her down with your front yard garden hose
/r/MGTOW02/03/16 05:47 PM
1

bring on the Stepford wives!!!!!
/r/MGTOW02/03/16 04:46 PM
1

I was raised in a religious environment, my dad was even a preacher for a few years when I was very young. At around age 10 I figured out the bible (and religions in general) were complete bullshit. Didn't know what an "atheist" was at that age but soon found out. I was compelled to attend church services every sunday till I was 16 years old at which point I was free to make my own decisions (said FUCK OFF! forever to churches and religious whackos). book of Numbers is especially brutal. Moses w…
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 05:40 PM
1

the bible indicates that we should only ever have sex with our wife the bible also says you can rape all the virgins after you slaughter everyone else. Old Testament, over and over and over again. That's some brutal shit in that book
/r/MGTOW29/02/16 06:14 PM
5

the word is caution. But I have known real fear. Once. I fell into the trap of co-habituating with a crazy bitch. The first year and a half was great, I ignored all the red flags. By the end I was suspecting BPD and our last fight was bad. She became hysterical and physical, grabbing me and throwing stuff at me, I pushed her off of me and she fell flat on her back. Now she is screaming at me "look what you did!! LOOK WHAT YOU DID!!!" Oh shit, here comes the DV charge. I got the hell out and let …
/r/MGTOW29/02/16 05:53 PM
2

I could go on and on, but I hope you see start to see the point. no, really?? LOL
/r/MGTOW29/02/16 05:46 PM
1

yeah its "you can take your doghouse and shove it up your Ass!" I've never been in a "doghouse" because as soon as one appeared I would blow them up. Nip it in the bud. Probably why most my relationships with women lasted less than 6 months. I did live with a woman for two years and at the end refused to sleep on the couch (she did and it was HER HOUSE!!). Needless to say, after a week of that she gave me the boot (thank the gods!). Looking back I was damn lucky she didn't go the DV route on me …
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 05:06 PM
3

57 here. I am probably not the typical "MGTOW", never married, no kids, had lots of relationships with women, lots of fun and never honestly considered marriage (did go into a jewelry store one time and broke out in a cold sweat). I realized at about age 20 that I never wanted kids. Also never suffered any of the Butt hurt like so many on this. forum have so that puts me in a small minority here. Only stuck my dick in crazy twice and thank the gods I escaped and survived. It keeps getting better…
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 03:50 PM
7

sorry, not true in my case. I'm 57 and am damn glad I never had kids/wife, etc. But I knew at a very young age I never wanted to get tied down like that. Freedom was just too important to me. Later on after seeing what divorce/alimony/child support did to some of my friends I just could not imagine going thru that kind of stress. And now? I was able to retire early a wealthy man. Cant say that about any of the guys I grew up with/worked with, ALL of them blue pill, married with children, most no…
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 03:35 PM
2

GT350 or.Challenger SRT would be my pick. driving school sounds interesting. I read the Car and Driver article comparing the Corvette to the GT350. GT350 was definitely the funnest car even though it lost on the track.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 02:30 PM
1

damn.. at least I put nothing at all on my facebook account during the two weeks I had it. email is about the only "social media" I can handle
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 02:20 PM
2

cap gains, dividend tax rates are low. Why do you think Warren Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? I don't mind paying taxes, even higher rates as a single man. Its all part of the game and a single guy who is half smart with money can really do well in the USA (think ROTH IRA, div champion blue chips, micro P2P lending, etc). A single man can do. a hell of a lot better not having to .pay for kids and wife, college, vaginamony, child support, etc.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 01:59 PM
1

depending on what woman you are "masterbating" into there is actually a big difference in intensity between sex with a woman or sex with Pamela Handerson. I think when VR porn is more developed this could change
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 07:10 PM
1

sorry OP, you made bad decisions and deserve the ass kicking. I've made huge financial mistakes in my life and paid dearly for them. .Those are "life lessons" and can make you stronger. but you are right about ACER. I love my $250 ACER laptop. So cheap it is basically a disposable commodity. 5 years old now, great screen, battery is shot but so what. If it breaks I'll toss it and get another. Probably no good for gaming but great for what I need (spreadsheets, internet, DVD's)
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 06:21 PM
3

wow, just read a few posts off the deadbedrooms sub. Should be required reading for young guys to open their eyes to what can happen after a few years of marriage.
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 06:02 PM
1

well, you are only 21 so pussy is going to occupy your thoughts. Just think, in 30 years you will barely think of it at all. Weight lifting is so boring. You are short and skinny, get a decent bicycle and get into condition, learn to ride long distance. I've done dozens of organized century rides, sometimes with thousands of other cyclists and some of the best experiences of my life have been these rides. I'm a big guy (6'1" 185 lbs) but on these rides the smaller lightweight guys always could b…
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 05:35 PM
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I would not respond. If you do tell her you've found a nicer anus. did you say you thought you had deleted your facebook account? My last GF was a facebook addict and set me up with one. A couple weeks into it I realized what bullshit it was and deleted it. Sure hope it is actually deleted.
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 05:20 PM
3

no kidding.... wtf?? considering marriage or even cohabitation? sheer idiocy. stay single and keep your own space. Once she is convinced the OP is not her meal ticket she will leave and GOOD RIDDANCE. Why does the OP even entertain this parasite??!!
/r/MGTOW26/02/16 03:13 PM
4

agree. Most project managers are a giant waste of money. I did work with a couple good ones but probably 90% were worthless.
/r/MGTOW26/02/16 02:09 PM
7

same thing in engineering. The few women that manage to earn the degree end up in management for the most part. The ones I worked with were very good at "crossing the T's and dotting the i's" but for the most part were not outside the box thinkers and had a poor grasp of design. Too caught up in trivial detail and could not see the forest for the trees. I worked with some mediocre male engineers as well. But every one of the best, brilliant engineers were men.
/r/MGTOW26/02/16 02:07 PM
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I noticed that too. Never mind the fact that the entire modern world including govt was built by white men. Its as if I were to build a house and women pointed at me screaming, "its not fair that he has shelter and doesn't get rained on like us!!!" the whole article was too long for me to read. My "glass is half full" take on this is that the large percentage of single women is balanced by an equally large percentage of single men that are spared a divorce raping.
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 06:21 PM
1

I grew up in small town Calif and worked in San Fran for a few years at the start of my career. This was late 1980's, pre-internet. My roommate and I hit the San fran night club scene every weekend and the big city women there had just horrible entitled attitudes when compared to the small town women I was used to. Probably SF and NYC have the MOST hypergamous women on the planet. I had fun but was glad when I got promoted and could leave. Also, owning and driving a car in that city is a real pa…
/r/MGTOW24/02/16 06:10 PM
0

she is a 8, 9??? he blew it, shoulda squeezed a few more months of good sex..
/r/MGTOW23/02/16 06:59 PM
2

couple of months? she must have been hot. I've managed to hem and haw for as long as a year before they would flip the switch and realize they were wasting their precious time with me. But most less than 3-6 months before they would move on to the next prospect (mark). A couple even broke down crying, super pissed that they "wasted so much time" on me. No woman could ever "close the deal" so to speak. I never mistreated a woman (other than being "emotionally unavailable" and stingy with MY TIME)…
/r/MGTOW23/02/16 06:47 PM
3

It takes, or at any rate has in the past taken, the young man's eye off women as they are, as companions in shipwreck not guiding stars. (One result is for observation of the actual to make the young man turn cynical.) tru dat!!
/r/MGTOW23/02/16 05:39 PM
2

Californication USA
/r/MGTOW22/02/16 06:32 PM
3

I'm no fighter, only been in two fist fights in my entire life and they were both in high school. I frequented nightclubs and bars thousands of times in my 20's and 30's and only ran into a dangerous Chad looking for someone to beat up once. His slut girlfriend was the real danger and was chatting me up at this small town bar. I could feel I was being played by this bitch as her toughguy boyfriend was giving me the "look". It was really a sick situation where this woman seemed to be trying to ge…
/r/MGTOW22/02/16 06:24 PM
3

know this.... there is no going back. with time it gets easier, especially as you get older. I actually went thru the "oneitis" twice in my life and both times managed to get back together with these women after a few years. Big mistake, the original problems that led to the original break were still there of course. It was doomed from the beginning. sorry to say but you are just going to have to tough it out. Rest assured you made the right decision, if you did not want kids/marriage/plantation…
/r/MGTOW21/02/16 05:56 PM
3

I started working at age 15 and had a dozen or more low paid shitty jobs before earning my college degree. I learned the hard way that hard shitty jobs are a great motivator to strive for something better. The best day on those jobs was the day I quit them. I still remember the great feeling of telling the boss, "I quit".
/r/MGTOW21/02/16 04:35 PM
1

I always liked Sandra. Good actress and her movies are always fun. I always thought that she was a decent person deep down. SMV is a sliding scale. Among 52 year old women she is still at the top. but she sure messed up marrying Jesse James (a true Chad T.) In her world of wealth and fame what guy would take on that stress and lack of privacy? For the money? In my life I had the chance to marry two very wealthy women. No way. With money comes control and no way could I ever give up control and f…
/r/MGTOW20/02/16 06:58 PM
1

I am a life long tool nut. Was a wrencher with all my buddies working on our musclecars in the '70's. I love tools and try to buy good ones. Over the years you can build up quite a few. Always try and buy quality, the money is never wasted. I even have a jack hammer that I only use ever other year, don't really need it but I just like owning one. I'm also a life long cyclist and love to work on my bikes. I have all the Park tools and can tear down a bike to its smallest components. The feeling o…
/r/MGTOW20/02/16 05:53 PM
3

first, you are in the WRONG SUB second, you're observation of a "switch" is correct. There is an relationship "switch" in wimmenz heads that they can turn off. Being the deceptive lying creatures they are the reality is that your gf started checking out a long time ago, probably a year ago. They always have a plan B (another guy) by the time they flip the switch to off. She has emotionally checked out and is setting up with another man. This is why men are so often blindsided, surprised and unpr…
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 04:08 PM
2

those disgusting sleeve tats sure don't help
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 11:48 PM
2

don't forget the turkey necks. And what is that thing with the vertical wrinkles on the upper lip? My last girlfriend was a solid 9 in her early 20's. Blond, blue eyed beauty. now at age 50 the sun and genetics have taken their toll. She probably has $10,000 of cosmetics cramming every drawer in all three bathrooms. Desperate to hang onto that long gone beauty.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 11:42 PM
3

A friend of mine who is religious went to Africa last year on a mission thru his church to help African villages procure clean water. When he came back he told me the thing you never can understand watching NPR documentaries about Africa is the absolute filth and stench of these villages. It was completely revolting.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 11:36 PM
2

did that. still too small
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 11:08 PM
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for all the posters thinking he is getting no sex because he let himself go to shit?? wtf??!!! do you really think his fucking slavemaster bitch of a wife would be all into sex if he had kept himself in shape?? no fucking way. He stuck his dick in crazy and now will pay for it the REST OF HIS LIFE.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 10:35 PM
1

I love alcohol, especially craft beers. I'm german heritage and have a larger than average tolerance. I like a mild buzz, never get drunk and cant even remember my last hangover, probably 10-15 years ago? Why give up one of the true pleasures in life? I never once drank on the job and never drink when I am involved in some activity that requires intellectual or physical effort. I suppose I would be labeled an alcoholic but I have never experienced any sort of withdrawal symptom the few times I h…
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 07:21 PM
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except that professional prostitutes are more honest
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 06:41 PM
2

I don't have a smart phone and probably use my flip phone less than half a dozen times per week. The art of conversation was never that good in our society before smart phones, its a lot worse now. I see my niece and nephew about twice per year during the holidays and you would think they could put down the damn phones for a few minutes at least. Nope. The attention spans of people seem to have become drastically reduced. The brains of young people brought up on the internet, social media and th…
/r/MGTOW16/02/16 05:30 PM
1

agree. and the internet, smart phones and social media have greatly amplified and accelerated this phenomenon.
/r/MGTOW16/02/16 05:08 PM
4

so an HB1 is a "Hot Babe 1"??? LOL SMV makes more sense
/r/MGTOW16/02/16 05:02 PM
2

probably at least 200 of those 800 girls have boyfriends. Dude will be lucky if he doesn't get his ass kicked, especially since a few of those boyfriends probably didn't do jack shit for V day
/r/MGTOW16/02/16 04:48 PM
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A celeb simulator WILL happen. We have all the information necessary in any movie. Coupled with advanced AI and a synthetic torso in the near future men will be able to VR fuck pretty much any actress in history (or even hot women in real life you video with your smart phone). Interactive AI with voice and personality, etc. This will have a huge impact on our society, probably will be outlawed for awhile. But there will be no stopping it.
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 05:43 PM
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my last girlfriend (and by "last" I mean LAST) receives $6,000 per month in alimony from her very successful ex husband. FOR LIFE!!! She also got two million in assets in the divorce. She was a very beautiful (solid 9) high school drop out (I knew both her and her ex growing up in a small California town). I seriously doubt she ever read an entire book in her life. Never had a real job, was a stay at home mom. After her divorce I lived with her in her million dollar home for two years until ever…
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 04:46 PM
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damn... thank you for this. Best, most insightful post I've yet read here on the MGTOW forum. Saving this one.
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 04:34 PM
2

I was pretty much done with women before the last one reeled me in. She was a recently divorced single mom (I know - HUGE mistake). Co-habituated for two years in her house. It ended badly, I left all my furniture with her, a small price to pay to escape her web (managed to save my tools though). No marriage, no kids, no vagina-mony. I figure it cost me about $10,000. Not too bad really, worked out to about $50 per fuck. And now I am 10 times as done with women. Cost/Benefit just keeps getting w…
/r/MGTOW14/02/16 03:36 PM
3

no kidding. I think back on some of the pussy I went down on.. did I really do that? cringe worthy indeed. Damn that love drug was powerful. Sure hope I don't get paid back Michael Douglas style for some of that disgusting shit in my past....
/r/MGTOW14/02/16 03:27 PM
1

shit... that was just sad, sad, SAD. pussy begging for a "5"?!?!?!! I worked with a lot of Asian engineers in my career. Never met a single one that was even remotely "MGTOW"
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 07:06 PM
1

confirm on the vodka. no hangovers.
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 06:30 PM
3

dont forget DeBeers... utterly useless shit. I have to admit I do like the diamond ring commercials on the radio this time of year. comedy gold... they crack me up every time.
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 06:23 PM
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as the VR porn tech is perfected the market will be HUGE. Even married blue pill'ers will be buying it in droves. Unlimited 9's and 10's vs. the fat bag they married 10 years ago that puts out bland missionary duty sex once a month??? there will be no contest. Advanced AI will hit the scene within 10-15 years and animation will be indistinguishable from a real woman (already getting close). Couple that with a physical device/torso/ass/whatever, advanced AI and men will be able to select for anyt…
/r/MGTOW11/02/16 06:16 PM
1

curious as to the total dollars spent that weekend...?
/r/MGTOW10/02/16 06:25 PM
2

valentines day?? LOL.. when is it? just one more day of bullshit I can ignore
/r/MGTOW10/02/16 06:21 PM
1

true but what about when you factor in MGTOW? Assuming there is a 50/50 split of single men and women if even 10% of single men are MGTOW is there a corresponding 10% of single women that are "going their own way" and not wanting marriage/co-habitation? I don't think so. Eliminating even a small 10% of men from the pool could be significant. I actually hope this percentage of MGTOW men will remain small, flying under the radar, left in relative peace, not attracting too much potentially harmful …
/r/MGTOW07/02/16 04:02 PM
4

wrong... the large majority of electric utility linemen I worked with during my 30 year career as an electrical engineer were pretty broken up by their mid-50's. Just about all of them had bad knees or hips and/or backs. Hip and knee replacements were common by the time they could retire. In one yard I worked in ALL 10 crew foremen were "non climbing". They all used bucket trucks and let the younger men do the hard physical stuff. The various offices where I worked had many former injured lineme…
/r/MGTOW07/02/16 03:41 PM
2

same experience here. Didn't stay warm long, boring. They really need to redesign with some electric power/heat, etc. Mine went into the dumpster
/r/MGTOW06/02/16 05:52 PM
1

you were 37 when this shit happened?? sorry but it read like some dumbass 20 year old who stuck his dick in crazy and went into complete pussy worship mode. This was clearly a pump and dump situation, or better yet, avoid entirely. In my 20's I stuck my dick in crazy a couple times but even then the little head did not completely override the big head (unfortunately I did get chlamydia a couple times, but no big deal as STD's go). But age 37??? by then it should be damn easy to spot and avoid
/r/MGTOW05/02/16 06:45 PM
5

I wonder how many of the "successful" marriages, the 50% that don't divorce are "pretty much old roomates". My parents were one of these so-called "successful" marriages.
/r/MGTOW05/02/16 05:37 PM
2

pretty sure Hillary is post menopause. she makes Nixon look like a flaming liberal
/r/MGTOW04/02/16 06:27 PM
1

Dude must be able to type 120 words per minute. Posts are too damn long for me. I remember that scene in "A River Runs Through It" where the father/preacher is teaching his boys to write. They give him their completed essays and he reads them, hands them back and says, "now rewrite this with half the words and bring it back to me". They rewrite it and he repeats the process, half the words until its satisfactory and he tells, them, "good, now throw it away". this is great advice, not only for wr…
/r/MGTOW04/02/16 06:10 PM
6

I was pretty much a motor head growing up and could keep my cheap used cars running just fine. I remember one time as a 26 year old engineer with a very good income I picked up my date in my beat up '79 two whl drive Toyota pickup (I loved that truck). This woman (girl) was definitely not impressed. She even asked me why I drove such a vehicle. The engineer in me started talking about what a great long running, cheap to own, useful truck it was and she about asked me to turn around and take her …
/r/MGTOW03/02/16 05:34 PM
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In my case in my 20's most of this stuff came from the girlfriends/wives of my male friends that were trying to set me up with their single girlfriends. Politely decline and just grin and bear it for a few more years. You hit your 30's and it will stop as your married friends realize the "happily ever after" fantasy is pretty much a big lie.
/r/MGTOW03/02/16 05:20 PM
2

good post. MGTOW can enjoy a special freedom BECAUSE we are a minority of the male population. We are pretty much flying under the radar. But this could change. I wonder what percentage of men would be the tipping point that would cause society to punish us? 20%? 30%? If the enormous transfer of wealth from plantation men to women was ever seriously threatened, ie, too many men going MGTOW, society/TPTB would certainly react.
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 05:49 PM
3

kind of hard to get that engineering job without the degree
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 05:40 PM
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dude, I thought I was reading the obsessing of a tortured, pussy worshipping 20 something. Then in the last link you mention your 20's and 30's in the past tense??? You're in your 40's and obsessing over some cheating skank? WTF? MGTOW?? you must be kidding
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 10:32 PM
1

you are way overthinking this. I see a lot of "MGTOW's" here doing the same. I never turned down a good looking woman, I just liked sex too much as a young man. And it doesn't take work or money, if a woman is interested in you, you can make it last long enough for some sex and laughs. They always thought that I would change, or they could change me. After a couple months to a year they would give up and dump me. By that time I was more than happy to have some alone time till the next woman cros…
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 03:26 PM
6

I have most of Dawkins books. The God Delusion is one of the best books I've read debunking bullshit religion/myth. Maybe in a few hundred years religions will finally die a much deserved death. Cant come soon enough
/r/MGTOW29/01/16 07:24 PM
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I can confirm the engineer divorce rate at well below 50%, 10% sounds about right, pretty sure it is below 20% based on my experience/observations. I just retired from a 30 year engineering career. I worked with hundreds over that time period and very few ended up divorced. They also did not marry 8,9,10's. they usually married educated 5,6,7's. Almost all of them had kids, ALL their kids were destined for college, professional careers, etc. Most engineers are as solid blue pill as they come (no…
/r/MGTOW28/01/16 07:00 PM
7

GET OUT NOW!! trust me, its only going to get worse with time I lived with a passive-aggressive BPD woman for two years. There were little clues that I ignored. I moved in with her and by the end of the second year it turned into hell. It is impossible for these women to maintain the façade over time. I got the hell out and severed all contact, changed address, email, everything. Luckily she soon stopped trying to contact me (thru friends and family) after she found a new man. Its been three yea…
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 07:25 PM
3

I hope you make it, I really do. One big problem is your wife is in a "target rich environment". The legal world is full of men that are in control, well dressed, nice cars, they have the gift of gab (I hate the fuckers). After she hits 30 watch out, especially if she keeps her looks. I'm 57 and I've seen too many of these "perfect" marriages flame out. You are a mechanic? try and figure out a way and a profession after the Navy to remain exciting to her so she wont turn to the alphas she will b…
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 07:03 PM
1

have to agree. I put my dad thru hell in my teen years. Sherrif Deputy calls my dad in a rage. I was 19 banging his 17 year old stepdaughter in his house while he was off on vacation (neighbor ratted me out). Told my dad he was going to kill me. Called my dad at 1 am when I was 18. "Dad, I'm in jail". I will never forget the involuntary agonized groan I heard over the phone. somehow I got thru those years and became a "success" but the toll on my dad was not good.
/r/MGTOW25/01/16 06:56 PM
1

but a robot advanced enough to pass the Turing test will be indistinguishable from a human with subjective experience, even if it actually does not have the ability for true subjective experience. We will probably need something like the Voitcomp machine (Bladerunner)
/r/MGTOW24/01/16 05:25 PM
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this is very likely to be developed before a functioning "Ava" or Stepford wives type sex bot. And combine the VR/sex toy sexbot with advanced AI and just imagine the possible intensity of the experience. You could actually have a stimulating conversation with a "10" and end up with any number of incredible sexual positions/experiences... Its coming and there is nothing that will stop it.
/r/MGTOW24/01/16 05:20 PM
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go for it, these opportunities are just too fun and exciting to pass up when you are young. Dangerous? yes, just protect yourself and don't get into a situation (marriage, cohabitation, pregnancy, etc) that screws you long term. Keep your own space, definitely don't see her more than 2-3 days a week. If its still good after a couple years and you've fucked her 200 times well..... Just remember, she believes everything she says and ALL women will change their beliefs, their minds given enough tim…
/r/MGTOW24/01/16 04:42 PM
1

aahahaha! I figured you for a paranoid gold bug. "Sky is Falling!!!" You probably have your radio permanently tuned to that fool Ramsey. Do you really think we could ever go back to a gold standard? and what other currency is there to replace the dollar? Bitcoin? you can borrow free money? are you a bank? Bankruptcy (steal the money) and repeat? A good friend of mine tried that strategy and he will be working till he's 65 minimum. and his piss poor FICO has cost him big time. sure the US dollar …
/r/MGTOW23/01/16 06:49 PM
1

aahahhaa.... you got me at the end. problem is, your story sort of mirrors my career. It was a great career, I busted my ass the first 25 years, 120% effort, going above and beyond. But things always change and the last 5 years after multiple reorgs top down micromanaging became the norm. It was bad but by then I could do my job in my sleep. $150K per year for 15 hours of honest work per week and 25 hours of surfing the web?? But I got bored and tired of "suffering fools gladly" and retired afte…
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 11:44 PM
4

Japanese porn is pretty boring. Its like all the women went to the same porn training and learned how to whimper the same way
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 04:49 PM
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cut your nuts off. Cats and Dogs don't seem to miss them, in fact they seem happier without them. Also may reduce the chance of prostate cancer and eliminates testicular cancer. My BIL died from testicular cancer that metastasized to his bones. It was brutal.
/r/MGTOW21/01/16 06:30 PM
16

I was denied a fair chance for a promotion I wanted very much due to something similar. Five engineers including myself interviewed for the position. All men, three white guys, two Asian. A month later we found out that a black female engineer (a VERY rare thing) landed the job after telling the company she was considering taking a job with another company in order to stay in this particular location (cost of living issue). Management scrapped the entire interview process and the 5 male engineer…
/r/MGTOW20/01/16 06:16 PM
1

you kidding?? Its a huge win for guys like me. As a never married, no kids bachelor, society views men like me as more normal than it did 30 years ago. Feminist/SJW "shaming tactics" are very easy to ignore. I had my fun times with many women and luckily survived that jungle. Plus, I got to retire early and keep all my "cash and prizes". It sometimes feels like society finally caught up with me.
/r/MGTOW20/01/16 03:58 PM
1

the powers that be know that the economy would tank if women's spending was reigned in. The massive wealth transfer from men to women MUST be maintained. I lived with a woman once (in her home) for a couple years and her spending habits were just unbelievable. Every closet in her house was crammed with expensive clothing, most worn once or twice, many with the tags still attached, and every drawer in all three bathrooms jammed with beauty products. Beautiful women with a Princess complex are THE…
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 06:17 PM
3

a septic system is off grid. Solar panels and batteries are off grid. A water well is off grid. Some really nice remote properties pretty much have to be off grid if you want to build anything on them. They are located so far from utility power that it just costs too much to build a line for power supply. Also, full timing in an RV can be off grid by camping in BLM land and public forests (2 week limit per location). Many do this, in fact I am fitting my trailer with solar panels so that I can "…
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 05:45 PM
5

Red pill when you are young and horny. MGTOW later on (assuming you survive the minefield, never marry, no kids, keep your money, etc.)
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 04:27 PM
2

men have a potent 'fuck-it button' I like it. I don't see any "great collapse" however. The only collapse I see is the continuing erosion of marriage and relationships with modern women. Men built this society and every single thing in it. Men like to build things. Its not all about women. What will our society look like 100 years from now? Sexbots will have been perfected to the point that a sizeable percentage of women will be obsolete and that same percentage of men will have viable alternati…
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 04:00 PM
13

bring on the Sexbots!!! those 10 complaints are a NIGHTMARE. Cant believe men can exist in these situations for year after year. Insane. In my experience about 200 fucks is the limit. Then it can get stale. Takes longer to warm her up and get her into the "mood". Not really a problem for most men but definitely can be a problem for women. My solution? get the hell out and move on.
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 03:21 PM
2

I have an obscure hobby/sport I have greatly enjoyed for nearly 20 years. But I would never post the details about it here. I use other web sites dedicated to this hobby and communicate with the few others that are also dedicated to it. Why bore people here on the MGTOW reddit? This place is for working thru issues regarding male sexuality, society, finding your path to sanity. this is a male space. I personally cannot relate to the anger issues of many here but they have the right to vent and t…
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 06:29 PM
2

Emma, how do you manage to make change for customers with that mattress strapped to your back?
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 06:04 PM
3

she's a Burger King cashier with a masters degree in Gender Studies and $90,000 of student debt projecting her fucked up world onto anybody and everybody
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 06:02 PM
5

Based on my experience I pretty much expect a woman to change her mind. I don't really have a problem with that so long as it does not negatively impact me. Another very good reason to NEVER sign an insane contract like a marriage "license". It is important to understand these creatures for the irrational, illogical, emotional and flip-flopping beings that they are. It is no reason to hate them however. Just protect yourself. This guy did get lucky she did not trap him with an "accidental" pregn…
/r/MGTOW15/01/16 06:34 PM
1

can confirm. I've been the ex-boyfriend fucking married women. Twice. Not proud of it. Both ended up divorced and I got to see first hand how men get divorce raped.
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 07:15 PM
2

I've never felt the anger towards women that many express here. Well, one maybe, she was a real bpd cunt, but even then the anger was more at myself for not escaping her web sooner than I did. I feel less societal pressure now than I did when I was young and EVERYONE I knew was getting married, starting families, etc. Pre-internet, '70's - '80's. Now it seems that society has caught up to my mindset and it is more acceptable to be the confirmed bachelor I always was. When it comes to women I hav…
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 06:54 PM
1

its pretty easy by late 50's and hormones no longer rule your life. I never resisted the little head like many "MGTOW" here seem to be trying to do, why fight it? I loved women for most my life, I just loved my freedom more. When the little head stops doing most of the thinking it is amazing how different things (women) look. No longer magical unicorns sitting on pedestals. I can truly "see" them now, warts and all.
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 06:39 PM
3

same here. Planning to design and build the ultimate energy efficient home. Hope battery tech gets to a point soon that will allow me to disconnect permanently from the grid (its almost there) as far as the pic in the OP, most engineers are totally blue pill and married (at least most my colleagues in my engineering career). But I do think their divorce stats are lower than the average
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 04:54 PM
2

Did anyone bother to edit this crap article? I don't think English is the authors native language. The comments section is pretty good. Here's one: Men bring their jobs, money, hard work and all his other resources to the table. Women bring their vaginas and their problems. Not good enough
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 04:25 PM
3

When I was 18 (still a virgin) I got so frustrated with the girls I dated not letting me "go all the way" that me and a friend (also 18 yr old virgin) went to the whorehouse up in Nevada. It was a great adventure and really helped me realize sex was no big magical thing. Spent the next 5 years partying, drifting thru a couple of Junior Colleges and majors till I finally got on track and serious about the future just before I turned 23. At the time I thought I was way behind in the race but now a…
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 03:57 PM
1

"Love" is just chemicals in the human brain that ensures the survival of the human genome. Life is just a natural process that begins with the first self replicating molecule which is made possible on certain "Goldilocks" planets. Its the incredibly large numbers of planets in our universe and the incredibly large span of time that makes what seems impossible (a self replicating molecule) a reality. It only took 1.5 billion years and countless trillions of molecular combinations and chemical int…
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 03:36 PM
3

you are right. I have met the elusive NAWALT a few times in my life. I worked as a utility engineer for 30 years and there were a few (very few) competent women in technical and field jobs. One was a troubleman and she was very good and tough as nails, out climbing poles in storms, very intelligent, a real go-getter, I loved working with her. And she made the same pay for the same work and she EARNED it. But if you removed all the men that do the tough jobs that keep this society running it woul…
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 03:24 PM
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aptitude is the real problem. In my 30 year career as an engineer I only met one female engineer that was worth a damn. there are very few women with IQ's over 120. That is why they will never be a sizeable percentage of STEM employment. Unless thru big brother govt. they somehow manage to dumb it down and enforce quotas.
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 03:13 PM
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57, retired last august after a 30 year engineering career financially independent, never married, no kids (finance/investing is one of my hobbies) bought a nice trailer, plan to fly fish the northwest US starting this spring (life long fly fisherman) going to start a new career/avocation.... Artist
/r/MGTOW12/01/16 06:43 PM
3

The speed of change really is amazing. My last girlfriend went from "everything is good" to "get the fuck out" in just two weeks. I was living with her (huge mistake I know) and she put me in a huge bind. But in the end it turned out it was the best thing that could have happened to me, I was really stuck. I think the speed of her change was enhanced by social media, specifically FaceBook and the echo chamber it created with all her idiot friends.
/r/MGTOW10/01/16 04:32 PM
1

yes, I think women really believe what they say in the moment. But they can do a 180 about face and still believe there is no contradiction or dishonesty in the change. They are very good at re-writing history. It is this emotional, irrational quality that I have experienced many times that makes me somewhat skeptical and wary. And its just crazy to sign such a bad one sided contract (marriage) with a person FOR LIFE when they are completely capable of changing so radically and seeing nothing wr…
/r/MGTOW10/01/16 04:25 PM
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the first one is the hardest. My first heartbreak took over a year to heal. 20 years later I realized that guy she married basically took a bullet for me. She nearly ruined him in their divorce. After the first one it gets easier, MUCH easier. After the 10th one you will basically feel relieved when they're gone. I always liked the rush of infatuation but knew it never lasts and was basically thankful if they spared me the hassle of having to break up with them. You don't have to avoid women or …
/r/MGTOW09/01/16 05:40 PM
9

Samsung note 5 and gear headset is ON MY LIST
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 11:36 PM
8

much like "mattress girl". Rape fantasy fucks up their minds.
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 09:00 PM
2

m- -n, don't you understand? only virgin incels like Isaiah can be MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 05:17 PM
2

exactly.. major projection going on here
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 04:44 PM
3

damn... you only live once and I am WAY too selfish to sacrifice my life and freedom for some woman and kids. My dad did this and I could tell he often regretted the sacrifice. He slaved away for his stay-at-home wife (my mom) and three kids that ended up having virtually no relationship with him and were basically relieved when he died. Sad but true, I rarely even think of him anymore, we never really had a father/son relationship and I was shocked to learn the same was true of my brother and s…
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 04:41 PM
2

horse lady = crazy. I've known a few. DONT stick your dick in horse ladies
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 04:29 PM
1

. tried to read the entire article. Now I feel like puking. FUCK THIS SHIT!!
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 10:11 PM
4

but what have you done for me lately?" that is THE THING!! I am good with tools, building shit, repairing/fixing stuff, etc. Every time I completed a project she was so thrilled and happy.... for about a week. Then it was if I had never done a fucking thing.
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 10:03 PM
1

I finally watched it. To call this "performance art" is ridiculous. It is poorly filmed amateur porn. I doubt the guy in the film is a college student, looked more like a lowgrade porn guy. Pudgy but long dick, at least 7" maybe 8". doubt he made more than a hundred bucks for this "performance". One thing I noticed, the ease, speed and familiarity with which she put the rubber on him indicates quite a bit of sexual experience. Midway thru he rips off the rubber and starts anal sex with her over …
/r/MGTOW04/01/16 07:31 PM
4

you're a black man living in Toronto?? ok, now your posts make a little more sense to me. My apologies for blasting you a couple times in past threads.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 07:14 PM
3

my dad made my brother and I do chores. He paid us 50 cents an hour. We used the money to buy our first bikes. Mine was a 5 speed Schwinn Stingray with monkey bars, a banana seat and a squared off slick rear tire. The gear shifter was this big thing on the top tube, very cool (to my 8 year old brain). I still remember it and how proud I was to have earned it myself.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 05:46 PM
3

damn right. I started to learn how to use power tools in 4H at age 8. By age 12 I could expertly handle a table saw, band saw, router, drill press, radial arm, etc. All because of good men. But that was back in the late 60's early 70's and I lived a "beaver cleaver" sort of life as a kid. A different time for sure. I feel bad for that poor kid being brainwashed by his idiot single mom.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 05:42 PM
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before I entered my professional career I worked a series of very hard and low paying jobs and saved every dollar I could for college, drove shitty used cars that I worked on myself, wore cheap clothes I found at thrift shops, etc. Taking a woman out to dinner and watching her order a $20 meal (1970's - 80's dollars) and eat about a third of it just PISSED ME OFF. $20 represented about 3 hours hard labor for me back then. Needless to say I did not do that very often.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 05:28 PM
3

cool. I've often thought about paragliding, there's a paragliding school near where I live. Retired last August, bought a luxury trailer and am taking off in a few months to fly fish about 20-30 rivers I know about here in the northwest USA. I got money and freedom and I definitely know how to say NO.
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 11:55 PM
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I'm 57. Full monk is easy once the hormones die down and believe me, the peace and freedom of not thinking about women hardly at all anymore is a blessing. Nature curses men with a powerful sex drive/addiction and about the only way to overcome it (other than castration) is with age. Without the sex hormones women start to seem childlike and almost alien. I could never have done this before age 45. I was pretty much done with women before the last one talked me into a relationshit at age 52. BIG…
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 11:33 PM
2

bring on the Sexbots!
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 03:34 PM
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It was really bad, boring. I was glad when it was finally over. Only character I could barely get into was Solo. And Disney is going to make 3 or 4 more of these? Kara Thrace (Starbuck) in Battlestar Gallactica. Now that's a believable female sci fi character I could appreciate.
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 02:44 PM
1

was it a "rape" porno? did she use that stupid mattress she carried around?
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 02:20 PM
2

I agree, there are many "red pills". Atheism is red pill. Religion is blue pill. Many MGTOW are blue pill with respect to religion.
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 02:18 PM
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what mangina horseshit, especially that idiot in the first reply (johnsmith2025) I definitely don't fit this mold. I set off on the financial independence path at a young age and became wealthy. I always treated women with respect but did not spend squat on them. And I was no romantic white knight , not even close. Women would always tire of this and get turned off by my "frugal mission" and eventually dump me. That was a GOOD thing. I was looking for good conversation and intellectual stimulati…
/r/MGTOW01/01/16 07:16 PM
1

most of it is just the anger phase and that's not going away. There will always be a fresh supply of men entering this phase that need male spaces like this to vent. maybe this sub should be renamed "pre-MGTOW" or "wanna-be MGTOW"
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 06:18 PM
1

cant argue with that....
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 11:52 PM
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they did leave in the word "bitter" to describe MGTOW men its a joke. kill it.
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 11:38 PM
2

Delete it and try again in a couple years. I notice Vilar's book "The Manipulated Man" on Wikipedia If some notable author wrote a book titled "MGTOW" that accurately summed up the "movement" would it get a more fair treatment from Wikipedia?
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 11:34 PM
2

Remember - when the student is ready, the teacher will appear unfortunately for millions of "students" they're only "ready" after they've gotten their legs blown off in the minefield of relationships/marriages/children with women and the resulting financial/emotional rape. I made it thru the minefield unscathed. Should I care? Sometimes I think I honestly don't. Like passing by an accident scene on the freeway.... better him than me...
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 03:50 PM
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Nawalts do exist but they are small in number, probably only 5% - 10% of females. And ALL of them are pretty much nailed down in the few "good" marriages before age 30. I experienced two of them myself in my 20's. But I always knew I was not suited for marriage and let them go, I had no interest in children and could not let go of my freedom. Both of them are still in great (first) marriages with successful grown children. Seems impossible these days but it does exist for a small number of peopl…
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 02:58 PM
2

I see most the men on this sub as in some stage of anger. Not victim-hood like that exhibited by feminists or black culture or the anti-gov gun nuts here in the US. Most men here only have themselves to be angry at for being careless and willingly walking into the minefield thinking "aint gonna happen to me". A good friend of mine was an F-14 carrier pilot who lost many friends. He always explained that all the pilots had the attitude that "it only happens to those other guys, the "grease spots …
/r/MGTOW29/12/15 05:32 PM
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this whole thread is TRP
/r/MGTOW29/12/15 05:19 PM
1

organized religion is organized delusion. Mary got knocked up by some Roman soldier and Joseph was the fool she persuaded to take her and her soon to be bastard kid on. Cant blame her really. Getting stoned to death is not such a great alternative.
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 10:18 PM
6

I was 18 when I saw the first Star Wars in 1977 on opening weekend. All of us were blown away, we had never seen special effects like that. fast forward to last weekend and the latest Star Wars. Pathetic, boring, was glad when it was finally over. Lucas is way, way, WAY past his prime. It looked to me he was desperate to recapture the magic and excitement of the first Star Wars and failed miserably. It was almost a remake of the first movie. I could not get into any of the characters with the ex…
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 06:12 PM
2

you pretty much nailed it. Big high bucks cities like San Fran and NYC are the worst. I spent a lot of time and money in night clubs in San Fran in my mid-late 20's and no matter how drunk I never could shake the absolute absurdity of it all. Just a pathetic mating ritual. I did have fun though. I'm pretty sure all those club hotties got exactly what they deserved in the end.
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 06:01 PM
2

that idiot is way beyond the "anger phase". More like an "Elliot Rodger" phase. Butthurt, angry, virgin incel. He infests nearly every thread on this forum.
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 07:35 PM
2

some "impacts" just aren't worth a true understanding. If I see an Iraq war vet with a missing leg I can understand what he must have gone thru but I sure don't want a "true" understanding. Same goes for men I've known who experienced pretty bad divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 07:16 PM
2

I fact it's so easy, that even a woman can (probably) figure out how to do it, and do it successfully. right up until she grounds the positive terminal
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 06:39 PM
2

Good post Corp_greed Isaiah "sleeps like a baby"... LOL dude is one screw loose from going batshit Elliot Rodger on some woman
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 03:15 PM
2

"own your own time" well said
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 03:03 PM
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STEM guy (Tau Beta Pi) checking in here. Poor bitches just cant figure out a way to dumb down the STEM curriculum. I guess the brain hurt trying to figure out calculus and physics is "hostile" to women. LOL American ingenuity depends on SMART engineers and one of the prime purposes of the first couple years of an engineering curriculum (where all the calculus, diff equations, physics, statics, dynamics, thermo, etc. classes occur) is to weed out the DUMMIES, which unfortunately for women include…
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 02:08 PM
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"soiled" wow... just wow... well, she can go soil herself I say, bring on the sexbots!!
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 01:51 PM
2

its pretty easy if you are not into material objects drive a truck, not a sports car. My 11 year old truck has 340,000 miles on it. Runs great (I'm handy with tools/auto maintenance) dress cheap and comfortable. My clothing budget is about $200/year. Women are into shoes, I'm not. I have old worn and incredibly comfortable boots. Women take one glance at them and are immediately turned off. I wear a $25 timex watch that I've had for 10 years I have a few life long hobbies that I dump thousands i…
/r/MGTOW22/12/15 05:40 PM
6

she was already wealthy when he married her. And Griffin is no saint. A ruthless wall street scumbag. I have personal experience with his fucking Citadel thru one of my investments
/r/MGTOW21/12/15 05:15 PM
18

this comment cracked me up.... "That's cool, we waited until after marriage to abstain."
/r/MGTOW20/12/15 06:33 PM
1

its pretty hard to be logical/rational while under the influence of such a powerful drug (love hormones). Signing such a one sided awful legal contract while under such extreme emotional/hormonal influence should be illegal. It is basically entrapment with life long consequences.
/r/MGTOW20/12/15 06:00 PM
1

you sound like my dad. He never understood money or investing, kept everything in CD's, never used CC's, cash and checks for everything. as far as the stock market, I've made just over 1 million over the last 36 months, a large factor in allowing me to retire early at age 56 this last august (plus a full defined benefit pension). Also I would tell people to consider P2P lending (Prosper, Lending Club). Its not hard to achieve 7%+ returns (after defaults) and its well diversified. I've been in P2…
/r/MGTOW20/12/15 05:17 PM
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your anger at women is over the top. I understand the anger phase as a natural progression towards MGTOW. Yours is a different category entirely, about as non MGTOW as I can imagine. and somehow I seriously doubt you ever had the problem (or even opportunity) of "rejecting women"
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 07:20 PM
4

The electrical grid would fail completely within a week or two. 99% of all linemen, power plant operators, substation electricians, troublemen and transmission/distribution system operators are men.
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 04:17 PM
3

I understand the need for child support but don't understand the complete lack of accountability on how the woman spends that money. What percentage of child support is actually spent on the child? I'll bet it is NEVER 100%. More likely it is less than 50%. How many times does the child support payment go towards the vacation or the new car or the 200th pair of shoes?
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 04:04 PM
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had the same situation when I was 23. Horrible feeling. The real father stepped up and married her, basically felt like the dude took a bullet for me. I knew him. 20 years later he paid a huge price in the divorce
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 04:01 PM
1

I'm glad you are happy with the stay-at-home husband life. I would probably drink myself to death
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 06:39 PM
3

she states that they are "newlyweds". Give her another 5 years of this boredom and she'll be singing a different tune. Her husband will be broken down by 50 if he stays in whatever physical line of work he is in. I see divorce in the future, especially if she was an entitled 8-9 smv in her 20's
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 06:07 PM
5

should be billboards that say "Texting is Drunk Driving" who texts the most while driving, men or women?
/r/MGTOW16/12/15 07:04 PM
2

aahaha... I noticed all that bitterness and anger coming thru in that pic she could be the poster child for 3rd wave feminism
/r/MGTOW14/12/15 07:46 PM
1

you are right on cfuse. Love your posts btw
/r/MGTOW14/12/15 07:44 PM
3

she seems to be missing the fact that men can easily fulfill their needs for interaction with real human beings thru friendships with other MEN. That's what I have done for years with my own friends and clubs I belong to. The robots are lifeless chunks of metal with fake skin. They cannot walk, smell, talk, think a spontaneous thought, evolve, develop, get a joke. The development of them represent the lowest expectations these researchers have of people. this is typical female unimaginative, unc…
/r/MGTOW14/12/15 07:37 PM
4

it is inevitable. Men created this whole world and are natural innovators and problem solvers. And a huge problem to be solved is what to do about women's true nature and their monopoly on their sexual power over men. Also, the day will come when your average low SMV man will be able to choose from any number of hyper-realistic "10's". might be 20-50 years away but its coming for sure. Hope I live to see it. Interesting times indeed
/r/MGTOW14/12/15 07:22 PM
2

I remember being under the spell of "pussy worship" walking around with a constant boner in high school. The 8's and 9's were these impossible to obtain magical creatures, so high up on the pedestal in my mind i couldnt even touch them. But in a few short years it all comes crashing down, like the end of a drug high. Choke down a few red pills and fast forward a few decades and "pussy worship" becomes "pussy disgust". Seriously, I shudder to think back on some of the disgusting things I've done …
/r/MGTOW12/12/15 11:00 PM
3

hard to get past the rage if you are writing a huge alimony check every month for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. My last girlfriend nearly destroyed her ex husbands business in the divorce settlement. He barely hung on to it but surrendered all the rest of the assets ($2 million in properties and investments) and is writing her a $6,000 check every month for the rest of her life. She always claimed she built half that business with him over their 20 year marriage (she was a high school drop out and stay…
/r/MGTOW10/12/15 07:05 PM
1

damn..... When you destroy a fundamental social institution—and none is more fundamental than marriage—the usual result is a powerful lesson in why the institution was established in the first place. Never before have we actually been able to observe how women behave when unrestrained by honor, shame, religious instruction, or fear of social disgrace and financial ruin. In our au­thor’s words, “We are just starting to see glimpses of women’s natural sexual behavior.” If her stories provide the g…
/r/MGTOW09/12/15 07:14 PM
1

another excerpt from the review: Eventually, women do come out and tell their husbands they are “unhappy.” But this does not mean they have any intention of working on improving the marriage; women ordinarily make no overt, specific complaints until they are: "100 percent done with the relationship—meaning [they] have lost all feeling. . . . It’s not uncommon for women to eventually feel less for their husbands than they would for a stranger on the street. . . . When women start being specific t…
/r/MGTOW09/12/15 07:02 PM
1

how can men be MGTOW and suicidal at the same time. Makes no sense to me. These depressed herbivore men are the furthest thing from MGTOW
/r/MGTOW08/12/15 07:08 PM
1

You are spot on Silentmajority. I would like to see this clown "pick off" Richard Dawkins
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 04:15 PM
2

I too find it very encouraging that young men are thinking more with the "big head" and finding MGTOW. Take it or leave it, at least they can explore a viable alternative. They dont have to wander around in the wilderness by themselves like I had to pre-internet.
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 05:59 PM
2

NAmember81, thanks for this post. then the whole dating scene changed abruptly when MySpace came along can you enlighten me on this? Was MySpace a precurser to Facebook and pretty much the same thing? I am completely clueless about social media but I am pretty sure Facebook was a big factor in destroying my last relationship (maybe i should be thankful for Facebook!!). She was on Facebook literally hours everyday, it was literally an addiction. She even set up an account for me but when i saw wh…
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 05:50 PM
1

before the internet I really was pretty much alone in this lifestyle. Every single person I knew growing up got married, most had kids, half or more ended up divorced and most of them remarried. things are slowly changing now thanks to the internet.
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 05:41 PM
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protecting women in order to ensure the survival of the next generation is hard wired into our biology. But with 7+ billion humans overpopulating our planet it is simply not true that this is necessary anymore. If anything this hardwiring is ensuring our doom. We need to reduce the population, not increase it. I dont have kids, never married, I protect and provide for NO woman. I've done my part.
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 05:28 PM
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I can confirm that. I had a huge sex drive in my teens thru my mid 40's. Now at 57 not so much. The interesting thing is that the reduction in sex hormones actually has changed the way women look to me. I see all these flaws that I never saw before. Its pretty amazing that biological desire can actually affect visual perception. Sort of like hunger, when you are really hungry food just tastes so much better. This extends to visual perception as well which I didn't really understand when I was yo…
/r/MGTOW05/12/15 06:31 PM
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Electrical engineer, 30 years, retired this last August. Loved the job but have new things and new goals I have to do before I get planted. Cant spend an entire life doing one thing even though it was such a good deal and made me a wealthy man.
/r/MGTOW02/12/15 10:28 PM
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T000009, gutsy to cut thru the bullshit in such a non PC way. far more than actual slavery (which still exists) is economic slavery. All those millions of 3rd world workers making a dollar a day.... they are SLAVES. It is just the way it is, you don't have to like it to admit its true. Too bad history cant be taught as it actually was. Impossible I know but would be interesting. I would rather know the truth than the whitewashing pretty much all recorded history is. I'll pick up Murray's book, t…
/r/MGTOW02/12/15 06:26 PM
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the sad thing is I have done this fantasy many times with women and realized I was doing it while I was doing it. Like a trap I knew I was in but could not get out until the hormones naturally dropped off after a few months to a year or so and I could honestly look at this boring creature with clear eyes and GET THE HELL OUT.
/r/MGTOW01/12/15 06:28 PM
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no, it will never take off, most the posts here on this site pretty much prove that I think the tiny percentage of men that are truly "lone wolfs" "confirmed bachelors" or "MGTOW" couldn't give a crap about these labels or movements. It can be interesting to discuss these philosophy's and lifestyles but in the end it is irrelevant. I think these men are basically born this way. They are comfortable in their privacy, still enjoy women (at least when they are young) and above all NEED freedom and …
/r/MGTOW30/11/15 06:23 PM
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priest + reality = oxymoron
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 08:50 PM
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Life is a game, just know the rules and traps (women), no need to lie, the lies will bite you eventually. I enjoy playing mostly by the rules, I don't even mind the huge amount of taxes I paid, part of the privilege of living in a great country like ours (USA). I even recovered from a couple of big stockmarket losses in 1999 and 2008 and in the process learned I have a very large risk tolerance. Had I ever been married in my life I am pretty sure many of the risks I've taken would have caused a …
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 06:34 PM
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lighten up Francis....
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 06:43 PM
1

pretty obvious you're not a Stoner pot is not addictive there is no jealousy because anyone who scores free weed will share it with his buddies. That's what I did as a kid, buy a 1/4 pound, sell 3 ounces to pay for the 4rth (free) and then it was party time, free weed for me and my buddies. I loved those few years of partying and not being serious about anything.
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 06:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that about an engineering degree. Toughest thing I ever did. And I loved the competition, the weeding out of the unfit brains. STEM should be separated out into its own college campuses. Then you would see a reversal of female domination on these STEM campuses.
/r/MGTOW24/11/15 06:31 PM
2

I agree, I had a lot of fun during many LTR's but I always had my own space and set boundaries (which is why I got dumped so many times!). Only time I didn't was the one LTR where I made the huge mistake of living with her. DO NOT cohabitate
/r/MGTOW24/11/15 06:15 PM
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there has always been a "bachelor tax" its called income tax, property tax, sales tax, etc. all those services that go to women, children, schools, welfare?? I know I paid in a hell of a lot more than I took out. But I'm ok with it.
/r/MGTOW24/11/15 05:53 PM
1

I watched my last girlfriend blow thru literally hundreds of thousands of dollars (from her divorce settlement). Her alimony alone was $6,000/month FOR LIFE and she never saved any of it.... spent it all. Unbelievable amount of wasted money on clothing and luxury automobiles, things like flying her entire family to Hawaii for a couple weeks. I tried to help her with the whole concept of saving and budgeting. I set up a basic spreadsheet for her to track income and expenses. Problem was "cognitiv…
/r/MGTOW23/11/15 06:58 PM
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I started my career as an engineer in the SF bay area, 1985 age 26. Expensive, the women suck (huge egos, extreme hypergamy) but I had a blast. Eventually got out in order to buy a house and save more money. SF is an exciting place for a young professional in his 20's but not for me long term.
/r/MGTOW22/11/15 06:39 PM
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no, don't need it. At least MGTOW don't. More of a MRA issue in my opinion
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 10:42 PM
1

depends on the cat. I had a female abbysinian that cared a lot about me. She was the best cat ever. When she died it was one of the very few times I've gotten emotional when another creature died (humans included) I like (some) dogs but way too limiting on my freedom
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 04:53 PM
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weak and feeble indeed.... To hell with International Days, Months, whatever Its embarrassing to think there are men out there who need an International day. WTF?
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 04:31 PM
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this is so true, you take on a ton of extra bullshit and problems. The most stress I have experienced is during the two years I lived with a woman. NEVER again will I make that mistake. But in hindsight, I am glad for the life learning experience and can cross that one off my list. I was lucky and escaped with minimal damage
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 04:23 PM
1

but but what about the 72 virgins? and what do you in eternity when only two months in you are fresh out of virgins??
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 04:12 PM
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International Men's Day???? who gives a crap. I don't need no stinkin "day"
/r/MGTOW20/11/15 04:10 PM
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my story is the same. I dodged many bullets. Now in my mid-50's I can see just how damn lucky I was. Total freedom + financial independence = a great life. Unfortunately pretty much everyone I know took the traditional path and most paid a steep price
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 05:57 PM
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I always wondered about that one. How hard would it have been for a woman as beautiful as Hedy to "befriend" some nerd technician who was working on that project
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 05:25 PM
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good article. thanks I liked the information about younger men becoming informed and turning to MGTOW before they make life altering mistakes with women and the system. I'm 57, a life long bachelor and pretty much the only reason I spend time here is the possibility I can help younger men survive or even avoid the minefield out there. I watched too many of my friends over the last 40 years become the walking wounded.
/r/MGTOW17/11/15 05:44 PM
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if you're mid-50's like me I can see that. If you are 20' or 30's I cant imagine giving up sex. One of the great things when you are young. Dangerous? yes. but a hell of a lot of fun
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 06:02 PM
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I believe this. A California King sized bed is probably the only one big enough to allow comfortable sleep in my case. My problem was I would always overheat and only need a sheet or nothing at all while she is there under two blankets and a comforter and still not warm enough. And the window issue... I always leave my windows open for the coolness and fresh air. Women hated this.
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 05:59 PM
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I once had a FWB. Once a week fulfilled my needs and left me plenty of free time. Typical date: I go over to her apartment (2 miles away) grab a beer from her well stocked fridge (she loved craft beer) watch some tv while she cooks up her latest gourmet meal (she was a foodie and a very good cook) after a Netflix movie retire to the bedroom and fuck. get the hell out and back to my apartment for some good sleep she actually put up with this for over a year You're doing it wrong :)
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 05:48 PM
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"I probably would if I ever thought about it" I like it!
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 05:38 PM
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without mens need for sex (women) how many men would pay for huge houses and pay to furnish them with tons of expensive crap. Luxury automobile sales would crash (pickup trucks would be fine however). How would the restaurant industry fare? There are thousands of small businesses that would not survive without women. Home Depot would be ok though. And what about cities and countries that largely depend on tourism? say goodbye to them. I hate to admit it but women do drive consumer spending which…
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 05:34 PM
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great post!! my weakness was always beautiful women. I am convinced a majority of beautiful women simply never need to develop passions and interests. Their only interest seems to be the power of their beauty. They would always get a pussy pass from me. BUT. I did know when to pull the trigger and only once ever cohabitated (huge mistake)
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 05:09 PM
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whats not a small number is the number of divorces and the billions in wealth transfer from men to women. MGTOW will always be a small minority but it is an important source for information and expression of male thoughts. Even if MGTOW and other men that refuse to marry ever only got to 10% of the male population that would have an enormous impact on society.
/r/MGTOW15/11/15 12:40 AM
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one pussy for life?? seems insane to me pussies have expiration dates you know. even the 8's and 9's, After 100-200 hits they get stale variety is the best spice. monogamy blows!
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 04:30 PM
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I agree. Except for the corporate world. In my career I had to be very careful. Over a 30 year career I watched things become more and more PC to the point that we were forced into "sensitivity training" and offices were policed for "inappropriate" pictures. This was mostly aimed at white men in the corp I worked for, especially those out in red neck country. I saw many get fired for being careless with what they sent out on email or websites they should not have been viewing (porn). I never did…
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 02:43 PM
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I had a 30 year career as an electrical engineer in a major US corp. Some of the worst engineers I worked with had masters degrees. Smart but they had a tendency to get lost in the details and not see the forest for the trees. I really don't think women will ever be a factor in STEM fields (unless govt dumbs it down somehow). The problem is STEM is dominated by people with IQ's above 120. There are simply just a whole lot more men than women in the high IQ range (also in the low under 80 IQ rang…
/r/MGTOW11/11/15 05:21 PM
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true. I lived with my last girlfriend for a couple years (big mistake) and I was always amazed/shocked at how the hamster in that empty skull of hers could change reality to such a degree. Even things we had both done together only a week or two in the past she could twist to the point I would wonder wtf?? was she even there? And she really believed she "earned" the millions in cash and prizes she scored in her divorce, that her ex was a loser and would never have succeeded without her. In reali…
/r/MGTOW10/11/15 04:50 PM
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you are right, there are many levels. I think a lot of MGTOW men here were beat up pretty bad by our gynocentric system. Others like myself never really went thru the anger phase, never married, did not have kids, we kept the "cash and prizes" for ourselves but still had many good times and relationships with women, and I don't mean PUA/TRP nonsense. Women were an important part but never the center of my life. Probably why my relationships never lasted very long once they realized I would not c…
/r/MGTOW10/11/15 02:32 PM
2

George Costanza after he saved the whale by pulling Kramer's golf ball out of its blow hole. Great episode
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 09:42 PM
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sheesh.... what a tool
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 09:36 PM
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I had girlfriends all thru my nearly 8 years of college (three majors so it took longer than normal) the way I solved the time for study problem was to use the college library. My engineering degree was the hardest thing I've done in this life and I regularly stayed in the library studying till it closed for the night. This freed up most of my weekends for partying and time with a girlfriend except for mid-terms and finals and then my weekends were gone as well. Probably could not have done this…
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 09:30 PM
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I love my CC's. Use them for everything, even my $2.45 morning cup of coffee. I have never paid a dime in CC interest in my life and my two cards pay me cash back, about $300-$400 per year. On one of them I get 5% cash back on all gas purchases, that's probably the best CC deal I've seen. If I could eliminate cash entirely I would.
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 09:23 PM
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Only a minority of men are truly funny and what I've noticed is that they are more intelligent and more creative than most people. Virtually all the women I have known can laugh at something humorous but are incapable of humor themselves. If 10% of men are actually funny and witty I would say that something like less than 1% of women are.
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 09:09 PM
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yes... I am proud to have achieved "man-child" status. It really is the best way to truly enjoy this life. Keep that inner child and life can remain exciting and interesting. MGTOW really needs to turn this supposed shame on its head and embrace the "man-child" in all of us.
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 08:54 PM
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this is very true. My last girlfriend was a real looker, probably a "9" when she was 20's- 30's. She was on Match.com and literally had 100's of responses from men. She never had any intention of dating any of them and did not read anything, just clicked thru the pictures and deleted. For her it was nothing but an ego boost. She told me she quit Match.com after I got together with her but I found out later she didn't. That ego boost was just too important. After we split did she start dating one…
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 08:50 PM
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time heals everything. Once took me nearly 2 years to get over a girl that married another guy while I was off at college. Years later I realized that the poor fool basically saved my life, she took him for about $2 million in the divorce and he is paying her $6K/month alimony FOR LIFE. Not sure about anger, I never really had any anger that lasted more than a few weeks, heartbreak yes, that is natural for a young man, but no anger. After the first heartbreak (one-itis??) it gets a whole lot eas…
/r/MGTOW08/11/15 05:24 PM
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In my 30 year career as an engineer I only ever knew one other engineer that never married like me. And he was obese. All the rest married and most if not all paid off their new wives debts,(consumer, CC's, student loans, etc). I'm not immune to the schadenfreude either. At age 56 and retired the freedom is incredible. Never paid for kids, college, alimony or any of that. And money actually is a very nice part of freedom. Cant buy happiness as they say but it sure can buy a lot of satisfaction. …
/r/MGTOW07/11/15 12:05 AM
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I did my college in the early '80's. had a blast with the women. things sure have changed
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 11:58 PM
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I dunno... just watched the new Bond film today. That blonde is the hottest Bond chick of them all. definitely AWALT but... damn...
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 11:56 PM
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wait till VR sex is perfected with AI thrown in and being able to "create" the perfect woman will become complete immersion. And its going to happen sooner than most people think. Probably only 10 years away. I recently heard a story about this computer program that could hold conversations with people over the internet thru email. People really believed it was an actual person they were conversing with until they tripped it up with nonsensical questions. Computer voice still needs some work but…
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 05:38 PM
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because if 90% of your complaints are about not being able to pull women on Tinder then that just screams pure, nauseating desperation to me. OP loser is just angry for some reason. I cant remember any posts about "not being able to pull women on Tinder". As far as female shit testing, I always hated that expectation of mind reading ability many women have.
/r/MGTOW05/11/15 06:49 PM
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that saying "women need men like fish need bicycles" comes up over and over. well, how about women need men like women need Iphones, facefuckbook, cars, houses, electricity, toilet paper, freeways, airliners, hospitals, medicine, washing machines, vacuum cleaners, ovens, refridgerators, toilets, plumbing and every single fucking thing that makes up modern society. All of it, and I mean ALL OF IT, dreamed up, designed, invented and built by MEN. Women have never done shit except pop out babies. W…
/r/MGTOW04/11/15 10:06 PM
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latest Samsung Gear VR. $99 and works with the Note 5 its just going to keep getting better and better http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/24/new-gear-vr-to-launch-this-fall-for-99-with-note-5-s6-edge-plus-support-too/
/r/MGTOW03/11/15 02:27 PM
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I've lived a "MGTOW" lifestyle my entire life and I am 56. had many relationsips with women but never married no kids, never really had a "anger phase" like so many here that got ground up in the machine. I remember back when I was just starting out and for financial reasons had to put up with roomates. I experienced a similar situation with a roomates girlfriend something to do with food or furniture or taking out the garbage, cant really remember. What I do remember is blasting that bitch to t…
/r/MGTOW02/11/15 08:59 PM
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spot on...! time is valuable. having to do social functions, visit those people I'd rather not... that is NOT freedom. I have always been terrible at compromise and very selfish with MY time. Probably why I was always so bad at the job of "boyfriend". And believe me, it is a JOB
/r/MGTOW02/11/15 05:35 PM
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My own family has no idea what I'm worth. If my sister knew it would cause real problems as she is a greedy little thing. I drive a 10 year old truck with 300K plus miles. My clothing budget is probably a couple hundred bucks a year or less. But I splurge on top quality in my various hobbies but most people don't know what these things cost and if they did they would be shocked (like $1000 fly rods, $8000 bicycle, etc) Was at the auto dealer last week and when the attractive female car saleslady…
/r/MGTOW01/11/15 04:15 PM
1

I may be in Europe next year does this establishment have a website?
/r/MGTOW01/11/15 03:17 PM
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this might be true for those with few interests or passions other than their career. For me, I retired "early" at age 56 and wish I had done it sooner. I had a very rewarding engineering career but 30 years is more than enough time to do any one thing. I don't miss it one bit and am embarking on new pursuits.
/r/MGTOW30/10/15 05:52 PM
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same here. I have two no fee cash back Visa cards, one is strictly for gas and pays me back 5% which is about the best I've seen (PenFed). The other I use for everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING, even my daily morning coffee at Starbucks. That card pays 1-3% back depending on what you are buying. I have never paid interest on a credit card in my life, ALWAYS pay off the balance every month. wish I could get rid of cash entirely, I withdraw about $100 cash per month from the ATM, sometimes eve…
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 02:28 PM
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"all the clothes" LOL no shit. I lived with a woman for a couple years. Fairly large house. Every damn closet in that house was jammed packed with clothes and shoes, probably well over a $100,000 worth. All my clothes took up one half of one side of the walk in closet in the master bedroom. I think I had about 4 pairs of shoes, she had at least 50
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 12:17 AM
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America definitely has become an Idiocracy, maybe it always was. But look at the bright side. It is so much easier to compete with idiots. I'm not especially brilliant or talented and if everyone had their act together I probably would not have been able to have had such a great career in engineering (and have made such a shit ton of donero). Every time I see some idiot do something stupid, like while driving down the road, I remind myself of this simple fact
/r/MGTOW25/10/15 01:53 PM
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wow... poor guy sure made a bad choice for a wife. Feel bad for his innocent employees being hurt because of the dumb bitch. I'd never heard of thunderf00t. Just watched a couple of his videos and I'm now a fan. The way he took apart Anita Sarkesian was impressive.
/r/MGTOW25/10/15 01:45 PM
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only if a man really REALLY wants kids. Then he better be damn careful on who he picks. I figured out early on that I did not want kids and did not want to marry (though I came close twice). Do you want fun times with the women, good to great sex? Then make sure your relationships don't last more than 2-3 years and get out before the trouble/boredom starts. Mine were all 3 months to 3.5 years, most only a year or less. I only ever had one bad one where I felt I was in danger and there were prett…
/r/MGTOW22/10/15 04:28 PM
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yup...
/r/MGTOW22/10/15 04:20 PM
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agree. She let her anger and emotions take control. Like sticking her fingers in her ears and "La La La La I cant hear you!!" they also deleted several of the OP's posts. If a RPW poster came here and posted a thread about "Manning up, why cant you just man up you MGTOW pussies!!" I doubt the thread would get locked down. I would actually enjoy the give and take.
/r/MGTOW21/10/15 11:11 PM
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actually the OP (of_ice_and_rock) in the thread you link is a man interesting read. I like how the women responding in the thread try to downplay the value of money and finances. Of course when they are in divorce/family court the 180 about face they perform will give them all whiplash! another thing that is not addressed properly in the thread is the value of sex. The man often believes that the frequency and quality of sex will remain constant in marriage. This practically never happens. Does …
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 05:30 PM
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Men who don't want or need children are fools if they marry. They will get 2-3 years of the illusion of romantic love (in my experience 3 years was maximum, 1-2 more realistic). And in return they are obligated for 18 years of child support and a lifetime of alimony payout if married longer than 10 years (at least here in Calif). It is a giant CON, a ripoff and young men need to be properly warned and educated on the reality they face. But there are giant special interests that are opposed to th…
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 04:39 PM
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56 don't know, probably similar financially independent, retired. Quantity of alcohol probably the same but intensity and rate of intake is much lower. I like the buzz but I haven't actually been "drunk" in probably 15-20 years. No tobacco or other drugs, one cup of coffee every morning. Pot about once or twice a year (that may change once Calif legalizes recreational Pot). Definitely NO marriage for me. Never wanted kids and could not imagine the boredom of being with one woman my entire life. …
/r/MGTOW19/10/15 03:18 PM
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good post. I cohabitated with my last girlfriend. I was miserable. She was a facebook addict and it was so mind numbingly banal. I would try and interest her in a conversation that was actually about something but it always ended up sounding like I was giving a lecture and I got so sick of listening to myself talking. Lack of understanding, lack of interest/curiosity, glazed eyes. fuck it, I'm done with that
/r/MGTOW19/10/15 02:55 PM
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"What can he do for me today?" becomes the daily question, not "What has he done for me the last 5 years?". exactly right
/r/MGTOW19/10/15 02:35 PM
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"most men" what "most" is she talking about? 50% of the poor bastards end up divorced. And does anyone believe that the remaining 50% that stay married are in a happy situation? and wealthier? what horseshit
/r/MGTOW18/10/15 03:46 PM
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yes, that would be one take on it. There are millions of young men completely hooked on these high immersion on line games. My 18 yr old nephew is one of them. I've tried to get him interested in real life hobbies and activities but no go. It is sad when real life pursuits (cycling and fly fishing in my case) cant compete with video game immersion with a lot of these young guys. And VR will only increase this. Can we find a balance somewhere? Don't know.
/r/MGTOW16/10/15 03:46 PM
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thanks for the link. I wasn't planning on getting a Note 5 till next summer. Might have to rethink that
/r/MGTOW16/10/15 02:32 PM
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just imagine 10-20 years from now. VR porn will have reached a level of immersion that rivals RL. AI is now incorporated so that the "10" you have in your phablet is ACTUALLY INTERESTING TO TALK TO the lock that real life beautiful women (8's thru 10's) have on their vaginas will be destroyed. The sexual marketplace will be in turmoil when every chump out there can literally create the perfect woman. There will probably be a huge market in virtual women app's circulating around... "hey bud, I'll…
/r/MGTOW16/10/15 02:21 PM
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yes, "common sense" calling MGTOW a movement is like calling common sense a movement
/r/MGTOW15/10/15 05:26 PM
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damn, VR sex is coming along a lot faster than I knew. Just looked at a few links, Gear VR, etc. Incredible. Recently I was on a road trip and stopped at a cheap roadside motel for the night. Flipping thru the channels on an ancient crt TV I was surprised to find a porn channel. Old 80's VHS style porn. Not only boring but somewhat disgusting, not even remotely stimulating. Modern internet porn is so much better if you take the time to search. I haven't watched any porn in three years ever since…
/r/MGTOW14/10/15 04:46 PM
1

yes, smaller portions are important, especially for us fat Americans. As far as wheat goes it has been drastically changed from the wheat of 2,000+ years ago. Even the wheat of a couple hundred years ago. And I don't mean GMO wheat, but normal wheat that has been selectively bred for thousands of years. After two years of this change in my diet I am convinced the excess carbs were causing me to eat too much and causing my metabolism to swing high and low too much. I no longer feel any need for a…
/r/MGTOW14/10/15 02:37 PM
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UneducatedLoser... you sound like an uneducated loser who gives a crap if women lurk or post.. I haven't seen these posts but would welcome the entertainment
/r/MGTOW14/10/15 02:22 PM
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agree. Women are constantly eyeing other women, every little detail. Beauty is their source of power and sizing up other women's power is a constant thing.
/r/MGTOW14/10/15 02:03 PM
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a waste of money. mine went into the dumpster after only a few times. They seriously need to re-engineer it, make it battery powered or something and add a heating element.
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 11:46 PM
1

sex with the same woman, no matter how hot, will eventually get to be routine, sometimes even boring. One thing is for sure, all those Chad's with the hottest women? they still masterbate. and guess what, when they do they are not fantasizing about their hot girlfriends, more likely the girl next door or even the maid (like Arnold S.!!) or just about anybody who ISN'T their current girlfriend. It's happened to me and friends of mine, especially the married ones who are doomed to sex with one wom…
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 11:27 PM
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I read the book "wheat belly" and decided to stop eating bread, sugar and most highly refined carbs (chips, deserts, etc). I don't have a sweet tooth so not too hard and definitely not complicated. But giving up alcohol is a non starter for me. Also potatos. Pasta, bread and wheat products were no problem to eliminate. Been doing it a couple years now. The result? Lost a little weight, about 10 lbs then stabilized but I wasn't overweight to begin with. One thing that is interesting is that my fe…
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 11:13 PM
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no thanks. There's a difference between MGTOW and homeless
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 11:03 PM
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I wouldn't dump her if I could still get sex once in awhile. But the big spending is a problem. I had many short term relationships like this but I never spent much money. There are a lot of things you can do that are fun and CHEAP. I would have them over to my place for home cooked meal or BBQ or go to their place. Never out to dinner at a restaurant more than once a week, more like once or twice a month and I got pretty good at finding small cheap places that had good food so never more than a…
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 05:43 PM
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great article, should be required MGTOW reading. no fault divorce started in California. signed into law by......... Ronald Reagan, hero of the right... then it spread like wildfire to the rest of the US funny the article doesn't mention this
/r/MGTOW11/10/15 05:03 PM
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I fully support a higher minimum wage. Most of my friends and colleagues in my career were republicans and they never understood my position on these things. But I am retired at age 56, wealthy from my investments and those guys will be working to age 65 or longer. The thing the so-called business savvy republicans cannot seem to understand is that the money people at the bottom earn is INSTANTLY injected back into the economy. Just watch these cities that have recently voted to up the min wage …
/r/MGTOW10/10/15 11:21 PM
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I remember the old Nancy Reagan era TV commercial showing a couple eggs frying in a pan and the caption "This is your brain on drugs". We need a PSA commercial for young men "This is your brain on Pussy". That scene in his YouTube video when he pecks her on the cheek and the one in the paddle boat could definitely be in the commercial, then cut to a couple years later, all his clothes are scattered on the front lawn, he's bent over taking it up the ass in divorce court, then close the commercial…
/r/MGTOW10/10/15 10:51 PM
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I figure her dream/goal is US citizenship, a good paying TV anchor/reporter job on a LA area Spanish channel.... and of course some LA model/alpha/wannabe actor after she dumps this poor schmucks loser ass in divorce. She wont even wait for divorce to start cheating. The ultimate whore (only not as honest). I sometimes think of these situations in terms of cost/benefit. Just how much did it cost per fuck? for a hottie like this one $200 would be a pretty good deal, a whole lot better than the ha…
/r/MGTOW10/10/15 10:38 PM
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good gawd.... painful. her body language says it all if he is smart he will promise her the moon to get a chance at that smoking hot bod, hit it, quit it, disappear. Two can play that game. But he is too young and blinded to enjoy it and at the same time avoid the trap there is nothing there but misery down the road
/r/MGTOW10/10/15 03:04 PM
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ah yesss.... the ole "true colors" it can take time but all women will eventually break down and show their true colors. Marriage can greatly accelerate this process
/r/MGTOW10/10/15 02:50 PM
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I was thinking the same thing.. The only guys I knew in my work environment who enjoyed marriage were the ones recently married. The older guys were stressed, divorced, having to work to at least 65... And kids were a mixed blessing, some good, some a real problem. Marriage/kids, its a roll of the dice as far as the OP... just another dumbass PUA. Triple digit sexual partners?? now there's an addiction for you!
/r/MGTOW08/10/15 05:31 PM
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aerovirus and Elrondo..... sorry but you two are about as far from MGTOW as I can imagine. I hope you can still get there but it maybe another 10+ years after the kids are grown and on their own. Maybe even longer
/r/MGTOW05/10/15 12:29 AM
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I've never married but have known and worked with many married men. I would say that on average there are 2-3 good years at the beginning of a marriage. Then its pretty much over (at least if you like sex)
/r/MGTOW05/10/15 12:21 AM
1

Alaska too bad that bear wasn't a Grizzly
/r/MGTOW02/10/15 07:00 PM
3

damn.. what the hell is that stupid bitch doing out in the woods, disturbing the wildlife reminds me of a girlfriend I once had. She thought of herself as a real "country girl". Drove a jacked up 4 wheel drive truck, told me she loved to fish and camp. So I took her camping up in the Sierra's, nice campground, lake full of trout, not "wilderness" by any stretch. First, we used her big truck and she crammed it full of the most camping gear I ever saw (for a three day trip). I mean a full camp kit…
/r/MGTOW02/10/15 06:38 PM
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very revealing thread. As a young man I suspected that human beings did not evolve to be a monogamous animal. Later I became convinced thru my own experiences. I never once cheated on a woman (mostly because I never married and my intimate relationships were SHORT) but I learned over and over that after, at most, a couple hundred times in the sack with the same woman it became boring. I was basically masterbating into a live body. But, unlike most women I could still get interested in sex at lea…
/r/MGTOW01/10/15 01:28 AM
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"confirmed bachelor" has been a description for a long long time for men that refuse marriage. Basically MGTOW before the internet. But no real rules other than no marriage, no kids. Enjoying sex, the company of women and relationships with women was never against the "rules" for a confirmed bachelor since there really never was any set of rules. But freedom was always paramount, so no marriage. I suppose the only way to confirm whether a man was in fact a confirmed bachelor is if he managed to …
/r/MGTOW29/09/15 10:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k I think I'll just go back to being "confirmed bachelor" not much confusion there
/r/MGTOW28/09/15 05:56 PM
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Perfect weather here in California. Just got back from a week at my cabin in the mountains. Smoked some really good sativa. Paddled around in the lake in my float tube catching trout, perfect eating using my Mini Chief smoker. Fly fished the river. BBQ'd a chicken. Caught about 4 times more crawdads than I could eat (crawdad tip: use small sharp scissors to remove shells, fast, efficient, saves your fingers). so good. pure peace I remember years ago when I would bring women up here and stress on…
/r/MGTOW27/09/15 12:47 AM
1

don't think an old musclecar is going to stand up to the new 700hp supercharged Challenger SRT (I'm 56 and me and my small town buddies owned all the old musclecars in the 1970's when they were dirt cheap)
/r/MGTOW25/09/15 01:57 AM
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bad publicity is still publicity. Bring it on! I suppose in this authors world marriage is a huge success and the "pay gap" is a real thing and divorce/family court is fair and balanced. MGTOW is going to keep on growing, like it or not
/r/MGTOW25/09/15 01:48 AM
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I'll second that..
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 03:56 AM
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I think the first big breakthrough in "sexbots" will be a hybrid technology of VR combined with a physical ass/pussy type device. I read somewhere that the Japanese are working on things like this and have developed a synthetic skin that feels like the real thing. Just imagine the possibilities with VR hybrid. Could fuck any number of "10's". Apps, trade programs, anything. Men are evolved to desire quantity, we were never truly meant for monogamy, one woman for life gets damn boring sexually. T…
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 08:06 PM
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I agree. I've had something like 25 girlfriends in my life (never married) and have been a confirmed bachelor (MGTOW) for as long as I can remember. Of course, my relationships did not last very long once the women realized I would not change. Only once did I co-habitate and I can say that I was miserable. I lost a lot of freedom and was no longer MGTOW. She ended up kicking me out (thank the gods). so, for MGTOW, girlfriends are ok (but its doomed to failure). Marriage and co-habitation not ok.
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 06:26 PM
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Run!! don't walk, RUN! there is little to no correlation between how hot a woman is and how good the sex is. Two of the hottest women I was involved with were boring in bed. No imagination. Strictly missionary. After I got used to how hot their bodies were it got boring. I was basically masterbating in a live body. There is also the princess factor that most hot women are afflicted with. remember, don't stick your dick in CraZY
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 06:05 PM
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It's true women are not into short men. They don't like to admit that. My sister is 5' 9" and when she was younger was a dead ringer for Julia Roberts. I always noticed a similarity in her boyfriends and her ex-husband, all were at least 6' tall and muscular, athletic. I became rather disgusted with her when she dumped her last boyfriend because he was too short, she just wasn't "turned on". Never mind that he was a decorated former air force pilot, a current major airline pilot, owned a 200 acr…
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 07:48 AM
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Joblessguy, what a great post! I read Amanda Marcotte's article on the link you provided. What a fucking 3rd wave bitch. She doesn't understand the first thing about men. One thing about the future of sexbots/VR sex/etc. Its current state is admittedly rather crude. But that is going to change in a big way and the impact will be incredible. I think deep down in their entitled infantile subconscience women dread the drive, intelligence and ability of MEN to create these things. They know its comi…
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 06:58 AM
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housing bubble was intense insanity. Fall of 2006 I am standing out in my cul-de-sac talking real estate with my neighbors. We had all been there since mid 1990's. I was telling them my house appraised at $550K (crappy stucco box near SF bay area). I say, "this is insane, its going to blow". My neighbor tells me his house appraised at $600K (next size up from mine). I say "No way its worth that, I'm selling" (I paid $160K for mine). He looks at me and with a straight face tells me, "you're makin…
/r/MGTOW17/09/15 08:57 PM
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dude, life is for LIVING! you are 20!!! go fuck all the women you can while you still have the drive. Just be careful and protect yourself. AND DONT GET MARRIED. we are not Priests for fucksakes. you get one life. LIVE IT!!
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:48 PM
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you are right. State of the art right now is pretty lame. But that will change in a big way, 20 years, 50 years, who knows. But it is coming, there is no stopping it. btw, fleshlight is crap. mine went into the garbage after only a couple times. they should seriously think about a battery powered heat source in that thing
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:39 PM
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just go down to the used sexbot lot. "pre-owned". good deals. cheap. and they can be re-fitted with the latest new vagina (plus programming! for cheap too). might have a few defects like a twitchy leg or wall-eye but so what?
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:32 PM
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right on
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:23 PM
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agree completely I doubt the men in our history that made the huge breakthru's were obsessed with pussy at all. I think they were basically MGTOW's. They had much more important and meaningful things to occupy their time and energy
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:22 PM
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boomer women did not invent "rape culture" and they were not covered with those ridiculous disgusting tattoos sexually liberated women in the 70's, before the third wave feminasties took over, were actually a lot of fun. I feel bad for all the young 20 something guys in this new age
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 12:02 AM
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the only times I have been seriously bored is with women and the implicit obligation to spend "quality" time with them. I could do it for awhile when the relationship was fresh but then my inclination towards solitary pursuits would kick in and the relationship fail, usually with a parting shot like "I feel like I'm just your weekend Fuck!!" (they were) there are too many great things to learn, explore, create, experience to ever be bored in this life. I don't understand guys that suffer from bo…
/r/MGTOW14/09/15 05:10 PM
1

aaahahha... what if your plan backfires? what if its you wiping the disgusting wrinkled up old ass of your 65 year old wife who is suffering from alzheimers? no thanks!! if you make it to 50 you are basically thru the minefield and free forever. why on earth give that up? unless you just cant handle being alone I suppose
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 08:42 PM
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they have simply said no to pursuing female relations all together I've seen this statement in other stories on MGTOW and I don't think it is true. Except for the word "pursue" I don't think MGTOW minded men on average say no to a relationship with women. Just NO MARRIAGE and for the most part no co-habitation (though many including myself have lived with women and discovered the hard way what a mistake it can be)
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 08:12 PM
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same here. I'm 56, in shape but I am definitely not the young stud I once was. But I'm comfortable with myself. I notice it gets harder to overlook things with women now, I cant put up with them as easily anymore. Sex with women in their 40's and beyond gets old real fast, even with blue pills aahaha! and they do age fast, especially the good looking (natural) blondes that loved the sun too much. I was in lust with a solid "9" in my early 20's, just a stunning blonde. She married someone else. I…
/r/MGTOW12/09/15 02:06 PM
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not sure about step #1. "ANY Job" may be important when you are a kid or when you are starting from nothing but working at McD or Starbucks or Walmart for your entire life is not going to get you very far. The problem is that you have to have excess income in order to save and build the necessary capital to make it work for you. Then you have to learn how to make that capital work. Learning from mistakes is critical. There is no way to avoid mistakes. I wish there were and as hard as I have trie…
/r/MGTOW11/09/15 11:17 PM
1

you are right, it was a pity, shaming sammich.... fuck that take the free sandwich the bitch is right behind you in the drive thru line, smugly watching (poor loser) you take a huge bite out of the free sandwich and stare at her in your side mirror as you are chewing it down. pull away from the take out window slowly, take a second bite and then hold the sandwich out your window high, fist bumping it.... as in "I RULE!" there is usually a garbage can at the end of the drive thru. toss the rest o…
/r/MGTOW10/09/15 11:24 PM
1

"causal roots of the problem" My-Name-Is-No-One is not "defending" feminism at all
/r/MGTOW09/09/15 12:31 AM
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actually, I'm impressed with his thoughts and arguments. One of a handful of posters here I definitely enjoy reading.
/r/MGTOW08/09/15 06:30 PM
5

happy wife, a slaves life
/r/MGTOW08/09/15 06:18 PM
1

you are on the right path, its the path I took and you are correct about the long term accumulation of wealth that most men are capable of. I think women are competing for a shrinking pool of "marriageable" men and this phenomenon will only increase into the future. Divorce rate stats will decline mostly because a lot of men who should never have married will realize this in time and avoid marriage altogether (and thereby avoid divorce). But there will always be the remaining 20 % of "good" men …
/r/MGTOW07/09/15 06:36 PM
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being stuck with some dried up wrinkled old prune of a woman that I am completely bored with and cant stand.... oh wait.. that was just a bad dream have never married and am loving the single, independent life
/r/MGTOW07/09/15 06:25 PM
1

damn, when I was young I would never pass on sex and adventure with a good looking woman. The majority of my relationships were only 3-6 months. Do it while you still have the drive! believe me, things will change and all those unicorns you see prancing around while you are in your 20's will look pretty stupid and pointless by the time you are 50+ like me. And the women my age??? sheesh... I don't even want to think about that
/r/MGTOW07/09/15 06:07 PM
1

I would have taken the free sandwich. then I would have taken a HUGE bite out of it and as I started to drive off held it out the window, high in the air in a pumping fist, "I RULE!" gesture.
/r/MGTOW07/09/15 05:53 PM
2

some real life examples from my own experience: I had artistic talent when I was a kid. Dreamed of being an artist. Studied fine art for one year in college and partied my ass off with all my "creative" school mates and at the end of the year realized that I would only ever be one of the multitude of "starving artists". Drifted around for a couple more years and then got my act together, worked hard and had a great career as an engineer. I grew up in a small town with a guy who actually achieved…
/r/MGTOW03/09/15 03:06 PM
3

there are 7+ billion humans on this planet. We need less, not more. STOP breeding!
/r/MGTOW03/09/15 12:05 AM
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interesting post. I've never had an Asian woman. Well one Phillipino, borderline? what I do know is Japanese porn and Japanese female porn stars in particular are very boring. did they all go to the same school teaching that ridiculous phony vocalization? and laying there like a manikin. agree completely about the "hive mind" I dont think Japanese women age particularly well. Chinese women are more beautiful, and especially half breed Asian women.
/r/MGTOW02/09/15 11:37 PM
1

seeking validation in the banality of women perfect.... banality about sums it up. I'm going to have to borrow that one I got about halfway thru one of those PUA books, got to the whole "plate spinning" concept and tossed the book. What bullshit. What a complete waste of time and money
/r/MGTOW02/09/15 06:21 PM
1

child support lasts until the children are 18. Costs can vary, in the case of the women I was involved with both each had two boys and child support ranged from $600 to $900 per child. I understand the need for child support but what I don't like about it is there is no control or accountability, the woman can pretty much spend it how she chooses (as in a new car payment!). This is one more area of the law that needs change, there should be an accounting on how the child support money is spent. …
/r/MGTOW01/09/15 11:12 PM
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one thing to consider: once you are married for more than 10 years you will be stuck with alimony FOR LIFE if you divorce (in most states) I've had two relationships with women that were in the process of divorcing their husbands (they both initiated) and I had a front row seat as their lawyers destroyed their ex-husbands. One woman remarried which ended the life time alimony but her ex husband's finances were destroyed and his career over (he had disappeared before her marriage). The other was …
/r/MGTOW31/08/15 05:45 PM
1

god damn that fucking facebook. My last girlfriend was absolutely addicted to it, would spend hours every day on it. I was living with her at the time and had no clue about "social media". She set me up with a facebook account and within about 2 or 3 days I was thinking what bullshit it was. Its a circle jerk feedback loop of irrationality for a lot of women and her facebook pals convinced her that I was a huge problem. I should probably be grateful looking back because I was basically stuck wit…
/r/MGTOW31/08/15 05:29 PM
2

great rant and spot on
/r/MGTOW28/08/15 05:48 PM
2

I'm with you Squid,... women, booze and pot in my 20's - mid-30's.... you can only get away with that when you are young and strong. Plus being German I have a huge tolerance. I had a blast. Those days are long gone but if I could go back I wouldn't change a thing. But now these days with breathalizers and zero tolerance I would not have been so lucky I suppose. I was never marriage minded, my freedom meant everything, never wanted kids, so I could get away with my irresponsible behavior and bre…
/r/MGTOW25/08/15 11:29 PM
1

he's already an alcoholic. A high functioning alcoholic that does not let the booze interfere with his career and NEVER drinks on the job or shows up to work hungover, well, they can keep that up for decades (I KNOW). he just better not ever get married or have children, the alcohol (even for a high functioning alky) WILL fuck that up and its not fair to mess up other lives
/r/MGTOW25/08/15 11:19 PM
3

I've never been to an AA meeting but pretty sure a lot of the conversation is about alcohol
/r/MGTOW25/08/15 11:00 PM
1

THEY REALLY DO BELIEVE they love "ME," (that's why it's so convincing) this!! it is completely convincing because its true, they really believe. What is so frustrating is that later down the road when they do a 180 they really believe there is no contradiction, that the change is not really a change. The lack of logic and rational thought is frustrating. So the next time a woman says she "loves you" or she really likes or is in to whatever, just accept that she means it and really believes it ri…
/r/MGTOW23/08/15 06:32 PM
2

great post we are on the same page. I feel very lucky that I never had to "learn" to appreciate being alone, I value my solitude greatly. I think I must have been born that way. Being able to entertain myself with a wide variety of interests is very important. The problem I always had with intimate LTR's with women is the huge amount of time I felt I was losing having to do things I was not particularly interested in. Selfish?? you bet!! But I like being around people on occasion (hobbies, clubs…
/r/MGTOW21/08/15 06:42 PM
2

I remember this joke as: What is a woman? a life support system for a pussy
/r/MGTOW20/08/15 05:47 PM
1

not "addicted" but watched quite a bit for a couple years. Porn sure has improved since I was a kid, I mean really hot young women are everywhere. Contrast that to the '70's used up sluts that were the norm on porn films. I stopped when all the viruses, Trojans, worms, etc that infest most porn sites destroyed my laptop. Ended having to wipe the drive clean it was so bad. Too scared to go back now with my laptop rebuilt and cleaned up. Don't miss Porn at all it turns out
/r/MGTOW19/08/15 05:31 PM
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I've always wondered about that. Can a 120 lb female blackbelt actually beat up a 200 lb physically fit but completely untrained man in a one on one fight?
/r/MGTOW19/08/15 05:25 PM
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I thoroughly enjoyed my 20's and had 2 "Nawalt" relationships similar to what you describe. One of them suddenly went born again Christian on me without warning... goodbye. The other flamed out after 4 years and about 300 fucks (it always gets old after around 200 fucks). In your 20's it is very, very hard to accept that this wonderful, beautiful creature can possibly transform into something completely different. Unfortunately you have to experience this to finally understand it (red pill) that…
/r/MGTOW17/08/15 06:08 PM
2

I did not avoid responsibility. It depends on the nature of it. In my career I was responsible for large multimillion dollar projects. But I enjoyed the challenge and accomplishment. And they sure didn't last 18 years! stress is the thing I always did my best to avoid. Never took a promotion to better avoid stress. Never got married or had kids to avoid a hell of a lot of stress. If you are comfortable with whatever type of responsibility you take on then it is ok, little to no stress.
/r/MGTOW15/08/15 04:32 PM
1

automatic transfer man machine. not redundant
/r/MGTOW15/08/15 04:27 PM
1

"rape" is a pretty grey area. fear and pain? definitely not to be allowed. Pleasure? there is a whole lot of female hypocrisy going on here. and why the fantasies at all? primordial? deep in our DNA? read "Sex at Dawn". Is it possible the human dick was evolved for rape (or at least sperm competition)? Or was it even rape if it was multiple known partners within your own tribe?
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 08:26 PM
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2) Try not to focus so much on these marriage horror stories. The community learns little to nothing from this. true dat... problem is the horror stories are sort of like entertainment for me. A guilty pleasure. Schadenfreude???
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 08:03 PM
2

exactly the internet has provided men with a door to freedom. Feminism too in a way by revealing women's true nature
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 05:29 PM
4

easy... beer goggles the next morning can be brutal. a "should I chew off my arm" moment to avoid waking the beast. I remember one "husky" Hispanic woman who refused to let me leave, turned into an actual wrestling match. She was pretty strong.
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 01:52 PM
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I've always valued my solitude but am no hermit. Interacting with people is fine as long as it is on my own terms which means I can limit the interaction as much as I desire. But my need for solitude has been a big problem with relationships with women my entire life. They invariably thought they could change me and then would burn out after a few months or years and leave. More than once I have been told "I feel like I'm just your weekend fuck!". I could only deny it for so long. They had their…
/r/MGTOW10/08/15 06:00 PM
2

No one is going to be impressed with either of us in this book and it will hurt Lisa who never deserved any of this. The choice is yours. Please consider providing me with $10,000 for a few months and working out a trust. You and I cannot talk because I am too ill and on a hair trigger…. Given my circumstance, I am moving as fast as I can to have the money I need to live, it is either you or the book.” “I don’t react well to blackmail,” Jobs wrote back that day, copying Lisa, then 31. “I will ha…
/r/MGTOW10/08/15 04:58 PM
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at age 18 I spent 2 weeks in the county jail (long stupid story) very noisy and very BORING. not recommended go on an extended hiking trip (if you like/can handle the big outdoors)
/r/MGTOW09/08/15 06:17 PM
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girlfriend? yes. Unless you are co-habituating, then no. wife? definitely not compromise and the resulting loss of freedom does not mix well with MGTOW
/r/MGTOW09/08/15 06:10 PM
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second that. I've had two horse girls. both of them fucked up psycho princesses. good in bed though I've always had some suspicions about women and their horses. Like how many of them get orgasms while trotting bareback? hmmmm???
/r/MGTOW08/08/15 11:12 PM
1

what absolute horseshit not once is the fucked up one-sided marriage contract that is such a bad deal for men mentioned. No mention of life time alimony, divorce rape, child support and all the other shit the social construct of marriage is DEAD
/r/MGTOW08/08/15 11:00 PM
1

way beyond that (56, never married, no kids) when I was young my dick did most of the thinking. Hated smoking but if she was hot I could overlook it. By the time I was in my 30's I could reject them the moment I saw a cigarette. In my 20's, not so much
/r/MGTOW08/08/15 06:50 PM
1

I'm sure it did cross her mind. I'm also sure she had kids with some schmuck after me and smoked while pregnant. Typical of small town white trash
/r/MGTOW08/08/15 06:48 PM
2

100 years from now: 5' 6" nerdy guy, dares to even talk to hot "10" in social situation, retreats in humiliation. He pulls out his (100 years advanced tech) cellphone/pda and records her from a safe distance. At home that evening uploads her dataset into his orgasmatron. has her begging for more Frustrated Beta men will create this stuff, its practically a sure thing
/r/MGTOW08/08/15 06:27 PM
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Girlfriend: I really am looking forward to my first baby. Hope its a boy. me: You realize you will have to quit smoking when you get pregnant. Girlfriend: No, that's stupid. I don't believe that stuff Me: what?? I'm serious Girlfriend: Well if I have to give up smoking you have to give up beer. I broke up with the dumb bitch the next day
/r/MGTOW03/08/15 07:05 PM
5

When I was 20 I tried to get into an electrician apprenticeship program but failed due to lack of connections within the union (nepotism ran wild within the unions back in the '70's and '80's, maybe still does). So I returned to college and succeeded in getting my BSEE. Had a great career as an Engineer (electric power distribution specialty). SO GLAD I did not become an electrician and break my body down. Trades are great when you are young and strong, a real drag by the time you are in your 50…
/r/MGTOW02/08/15 05:36 PM
1

I see MGTOW from a "glass half full" perspective. It is a great time to be a free man in the USA. Just watch where you step, there are land mines everywhere. But a little danger in life makes it more interesting. MRA/MRM: life is too short to stress over trying to change our society. The pendulum will eventually swing back towards more fairness for men. but that might be decades from now. PUA: mostly young guys who will eventually grow into MGTOW or blue pill when they hit their 40's and beyond …
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 06:18 PM
1

I dont see MGTOW as political. PUA is certainly not political. MRA is definitely political but hard to classify as left or right as they seem to have problems with both the radfems, and the tradcons. I am center left and would disagree with a lot of the right leaning posts here, like the climate change nonsense upthread, mankind has a HUGE impact on the speed of the current climate change phenomenon, just the facts mam but, thankfully, most MGTOW posts are not political
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 06:01 PM
2

GET OUT NOW!!! you are in grave danger. Get your own apartment and if the friendship survives (it wont) then FWB is the way to go. Seriously consider a vasectomy. I lived with a woman for two years once and managed to escape with minimal financial damage (and no kids thank the Gods!).
/r/MGTOW29/07/15 06:15 PM
2

I was technically guilty of "statutory rape" when I was 18. My girlfriend was 16 and she initiated the sex. Turns out she had had more partners and experience than I did at the time (in addition to real good BJ's she also gave me chlamydia!!). Should I have been locked up and my life destroyed? something like 30-40% of women have rape fantasies. that number is probably higher as a lot of women would never admit to it. I had one girlfriend who admitted it to me and she liked to be tied up, etc. I…
/r/MGTOW27/07/15 04:21 PM
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you must be a young guy. Don't worry about what these guys tell you, just learn, be aware and protect yourself. I am probably an original "mgtow" and to be honest, don't really relate to most of the guys posting here. Why? I never married, had many many relationships with women, was never seriously damaged by any of them and harbor no ill feelings. I like women, but totally understand the danger they pose to my freedom. I wish our society was different but it is what it is. And for the truly fre…
/r/MGTOW20/07/15 09:53 PM
2

Faststone. cheap, I love it
/r/MGTOW20/07/15 04:33 PM
5

LOL... so true was involved with a woman who "loved to go fishing". but she owned no fishing gear. Took her fishing and she did not know how to cast a spinning rig. It was pathetic. She presented herself as an experienced outdoors type but when a bear got into our camp in the middle of the night she absolutely panicked while I was chasing the bear off. I found her rolled up in a ball inside her sleeping bag in the tent absolutely terrified. turns out her true "hobby" was Facebook. She could spen…
/r/MGTOW20/07/15 03:47 PM
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thats a very good plan. Living below your means is critical to financial success. Putting $20K per year into investments is significant, if you have the discipline and means you will make it. Take the long view, figure 20+ years and you will be set. You are basically setting off to do what I did over the last 30 years. I made money/investing into a hobby that PAYS. of course, marriage/kids/divorce can send you off the cliff if you are not careful (I am single, never married, no kids and financia…
/r/MGTOW20/07/15 03:38 PM
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At the height of her "power" just after she took over at HP I'll never forget that idiotic HP commercial showing her out in front of a small building, a barn?, or the original HP garage??. Late afternoon, warm sunlight and she was acting like some sort of glamour queen, so full of herself it was sickening. I was thinking at the time, what the hell happened to HP?!
/r/MGTOW19/07/15 03:55 PM
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thanks for this, loved it at the end... "because I enjoyed being with you and that feeling will always stay with me". Wish I could say that was always true
/r/MGTOW19/07/15 03:41 PM
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I'm about a third the way thru and am really liking this book. Pulls in elements from other books on evolution, sex, gender biology I've read (Selfish Gene, Sex at Dawn, Women's Infidelity, etc.) in a comprehensive, easy to understand way that makes a lot of sense. An informative, easy read. Definitely a valuable addition to my "manosphere" collection and I highly recommend it.
/r/MGTOW19/07/15 03:19 PM
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(unconscious shit-tests, never satisfied, horrible with money, etc.) yes, I usually made it a point to fail the various shit tests, be they unconscious or not. Game playing from a 5-10 year old is tolerable, from a grown woman it is more than annoying. The horrible with money aspect was something I could never get past. A lot of men and the vast majority of women are poor financial managers. Its a real problem with the more attractive women that have had so much attention lavished upon them all …
/r/MGTOW15/07/15 09:24 PM
1

this sentence, right here.... Strangely my girlfriend is also ok with my choice to stay un-attached. She hates kids, but was a bit disappointed about not having a wedding don't know whether to laugh or cry
/r/MGTOW15/07/15 08:56 PM
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be careful, she might be going against her "true nature", time will certainly tell. 10 years of this with no marriage and she might end up a very bitter woman. Is her new attitude for real or is she suppressing her true nature. I had this happen to me with a woman I was with for nearly 4 years when I was in my 20's. I was an engineer for 30 years. I was lucky and recognized very early in my career that I should stay with the work I enjoyed so I too never accepted a promotion. The few times I rot…
/r/MGTOW14/07/15 05:38 PM
1

I figure only 1 in 10 men are lucky/mature enough to have success in a life long marriage. And most of them want kids and family. 5 in 10 outright fail (divorce) and 4 in 10 live in various states of misery, basically trapped (cheaper to keepher, etc). I'm afraid your friend is headed for misery, divorce/alimony/child support and a financial beating that is very difficult to recover from. cohabitating? ok.... he needs to delay the engagement as long as possible and before that lay down the law a…
/r/MGTOW12/07/15 05:00 PM
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my FICO is currently 830 and I protect it for all I'm worth. It takes years to get there and there are lots of things that can bring it down in a hurry, things as seemingly innocent as taking out a new card or closing out an older card account (thereby reducing the length of your credit history, the time you've had all your cards are averaged) For a few years now I have been a major lender with Lending Club. I've made approx. 6700 loans over the last three years, almost all of them in the minimu…
/r/MGTOW10/07/15 12:55 AM
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Richard Dawkins is my hero. Most the rest of my "heros" are various dead artists and scientists the rest are just entertainers, comedians, mostly just distractions, not to be taken seriously
/r/MGTOW10/07/15 12:38 AM
1

I really don't think any of them read it. Cant say I blame them. Cognitive dissonance is painful and this book was no doubt a problem. Just about all my blue pill buddies ignored this stuff as well and proceeded down the "success" path of marriage, kids, career (then divorce for most of them).
/r/MGTOW07/07/15 09:20 PM
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How right you are. I never married, no kids, 56, retired. I am financially independent. Had lots of relationships with women over my life but am truly done with them now. I was always a "mgtow". I think women were attracted to me because I never really needed them, plus I had my shit together (successful engineer). The thing was, I really liked sex but did not like the inevitable boredom of committed relationships. I probably only had two girlfriends that were somewhat interesting/intellectual, …
/r/MGTOW06/07/15 05:46 PM
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Manipulated man is a bit harsh but still rings true. The book that really turned my head when I was in my twenties was Farrells "Why men are the way they are". This was before the internet and all the fantastic resources we have now. All my friends were blue piller's. I must have given away a dozen copies of that book. I even tried to get my various girlfriends to read it (LOL.... so naïve was I)
/r/MGTOW06/07/15 05:01 PM
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this is bullshit. I've known dozens of women in my lifetime and none came even close to this level of dysfunction or psychosis I'm sure women like this exist but they are not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.
/r/MGTOW02/07/15 11:32 PM
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r4 you must be a young guy. Enjoy your "big dick" while you can. reality bites. if you are lucky you will make it thru the mine field with your ass (and your assets) intact
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 12:30 AM
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we need a study comparing never married men to all other men (married plus divorced). Average life span, average net worth, etc. I think including the divorced men in the single men group is why the stats are skewed. Divorced men should be included in the married men group or they should be separated out as their own group
/r/MGTOW22/06/15 03:51 PM
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no shit, whats up with these huge tattoos on beautiful young 20-something women? All that beautiful skin ruined with some hideous thing covering entire arms, legs, shoulders or backs? Just try and land a professional job in a conservative field (pretty much all high paying careers!!) When I was 20-somthing (30 years ago) some women would get tattoos, usually about an inch long on their ankle or ass or hip, etc. At least piercings can disappear, those tats are PERMANENT. and try to remove them la…
/r/MGTOW20/06/15 03:36 PM
2

yes, boredom was always my problem. When I was young and still wanted to believe the fantasy I was still dissalusioned by the inevitable boredom that came with my relationships with women. My attempts at any sort of intellectual conversation quickly turned into listening to myself in lecture mode, a definitely one sided conversation, boring and pointless.
/r/MGTOW18/06/15 10:29 PM
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I seriously doubt it takes into account divorce. Divorce, alimony, child support are clearly huge financial setbacks for men and in the US you have a 50% chance of getting hammered by these if you marry. As a life long bachelor (56 years old, recently retired) I accumulated significant assets. I never spent much at all on women. Even my worst experience which was cohabitating with a girlfriend for a few years before getting kicked out of her house only resulted in about a $10K financial hit (the…
/r/MGTOW18/06/15 04:16 PM
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looks like Rory McElroy dodged a bullet. called off his upcoming wedding. good for him. why any rich (or soon to be rich) actor or sports star EVER gets married is beyond me
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 05:26 PM
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life is good. just retired at age 56 from a 30 year engineering career. Never married, no kids, more money than I'll ever likely spend. Plan to hit the road in an RV for a few years. Going to start a second career as an artist (was my original path before making an actual living got in the way). I also studied architecture and eventually plan to design and build a house I can actually live in (hate just about every house I see out there). No more subdivision living for me!! also, lots of hobbies…
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 04:45 PM
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why do men dominate engineering and science? male and female brains are hardwired differently. Men have more Spatial reasoning and problem solving abilities. They are generally more creative. I remember a study that showed bell curves for IQ for men and women. There were more women concentrated at the average of 100. On the extremes of low IQ and high IQ there were far more men than women. So, there are far more male imbeciles and geniouses in the human population than there are female. There ar…
/r/MGTOW06/06/15 06:34 PM
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only made it halfway thru the list. wanted to put my fist thru my laptop screen
/r/MGTOW04/06/15 09:09 PM
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story in the first link is sickening. If that guy had gone MGTOW instead of the blue pill route he would be just as successful. maybe moreso. She has NOTHING to do with his success. In my field (also engineering) I was more financially successful than just about any of my married with children colleages BECAUSE I never married or had kids. Also retired early while all of them will be working past 60. My last girlfriend divorced a guy that I knew growing up in a small town. She walked away with c…
/r/MGTOW04/06/15 08:03 PM
1

"your passion for being alive. Do you have it? It’s the most attractive thing you possess. If you’ve lost it, why? Where did it go?" aahahahaa...! seriously?? where did the passion go? the biggest passion killer out there is marriage and its inevitable suffocating boredom
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 02:32 PM
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"She does not owe you her soul. You earn it. Day by day, moment to moment. You earn her first and foremost with your presence, your aliveness. She needs to feel it. She wants to talk to you about what matters to her and to feel you hearing her. Not nodding politely. Not placating. Definitely not playing devil’s advocate." what horseshit. just how much boring chit chat facebook drivel can a man take. I've tried this many times and have failed miserably. I can take it in small doses, just cant tak…
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 06:01 PM
2

you can do something very similar with a used Casita (fiberglass trailer - egg). Just need to retrofit it with solar panels and a couple AGM deepcycle batteries. That's my plan at least. Plus, the USA is very well set up for RV-er's, there are millions of them out there full-timing. Google Casita RV, Escape RV, Bigfoot RV, Scamp RV (all fiberglass RV eggs). Airstream is a little pricey but also very well built
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 05:26 PM
2

at your age I never passed up free pussy (as long as it was 6+ and not crazy). I could usually keep the relationship down to 2-3 days per week of actually being/doing stuff together, pretty easy to justify my own time with my heavy college course work (engineering) and then my career. Just don't don't get too emotionally involved, a little difficult at first but easy after a few months and having had sex a few dozen times. She will usually dump you in a 3 month to 2 year time frame depending on …
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 04:54 PM
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2 requirements is she reasonably attractive (6+) will she go away and leave me alone after I fawk her
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 04:55 PM
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"Just be MGTOW"... thank you for the advice/lecture. I'll try to keep it in mind I like the decal. It looks cool and there is no explanation (no "mgtow" spelled out). Every one of my friends is a blue-pill'r. If they ever ask I will tell them its the international symbol for going your own way or "taking a different path". could even spark a few interesting conversations seriously, I doubt I will ever see another one on the road.
/r/MGTOW25/05/15 04:34 PM
2

right there!! see those eyes?? DONT stick your dick in Crazy! I feel bad for the poor SOB's sticking it in these two
/r/MGTOW25/05/15 04:13 PM
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agree that its pretty much impossible to be married and MGTOW. But dating? that's ridiculous. I always had goals and a direction that no woman could interfere with but I really enjoyed women, especially fucking them and to get there you pretty much have to go thru the dating game. Enjoy it while you can but don't get trapped. I'm very glad to have experienced all that in my 20's and 30's. Even in my 40's. Now, in my 50's I'm pretty much done with the wiminz. but I would never tell any man to avo…
/r/MGTOW24/05/15 04:49 PM
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I will describe MGTOW to friends if they are interested but I don't evangelize this stuff. In my experience you cant convert anyone, its like trying to convert a religious person to atheism. just give them access to the info so they can use these resources if they want to. I can tell when friends are open to MGTOW and when they are not, the blue pill conditioning and cognitive dissonance is just too strong for some. A good friend of mine got married a couple years ago after I did all I could to …
/r/MGTOW23/05/15 04:55 PM
2

no shit. After about 200-300 times (2-3 years) I end up basically using a real vagina to masterbate in while dreaming up all sorts of images to get the deed done. Then its time to move on (assuming you aren't totally trapped (as in - fucked)). Crude but true. don't get married and DONT co-habitate. if you want kids, well.... that's a whole other problem
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 04:40 PM
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there are some good posts on this subreddit (yours is not one of them unfortunately) A lot of good advice/info/experiences related here if you are willing to look for it. I'm 56 and can well understand the angry posts by the younger guys and the damaged (divorced) guys. So what??? venting/healing has to be expected in a place like this. I like to find posts by User-31f--- and Musclecarz among others. They have some good insights and a way of putting their thoughts down in writing that I can only…
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 03:44 PM
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right on the mark Hunter. Very much enjoy your posts. thrownaway is an imbecile
/r/MGTOW20/05/15 12:16 AM
1

I achieved the primary goal very early on. FREEDOM. And I never let go. Second goal: financial independence. achieved. I have a few more goals before I am planted. Am well on my way towards them as well.
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 10:51 PM
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Saw it yesterday. Very good movie, over the top crazy, better even than the original Mel Gibson Mad Max. The dual guitar player was just wild, cracked me up. Loved Theron's character, she was just awesome. Definitely NOT gynocentric, that's just stupid. Tom Hardy did a great job as Max, so what if he shared the screen with an equally awesome Theron character, it just made the movie all the more interesting and exciting. You want to see a boring, overly saturated CGI movie?? go see Avengers. I wa…
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 10:31 PM
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good post. I see MGTOW as a resource as well as a place to vent and heal. Wish I had the internet and this community when I was young and confused about my feelings of the absurdity of it all. Somehow I made it thru the minefield in one piece.
/r/MGTOW17/05/15 06:35 PM
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fleshlight... don't waste your money. mine went into the dumpster practically brand new. interesting experiment though. VR sex could be very interesting and might have a huge impact. The Japanese are out in front on this. I wouldn't mind banging Kristen Stewart or Kiera Knightley once MEN perfect this technology
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 03:27 PM
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I read thru several of the WGTOW threads. The one about Unicorns was a little hard to relate to. I have to wonder if English is a second language for many of the posters there. I did find one interesting thread. I may have to check out this guy's blog. http://www.reddit.com/r/wgtow/comments/2kwfml/on_womens_natural_insight_a_misogynist_trope/
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 03:15 PM
1

the key there is "female talent". There just isn't a lot of it out there. My career as an engineer spanned 30 years. In all that time I worked with a lot of very good engineers and a lot of not so good engineers. The male engineers spanned the entire spectrum from top to bottom in terms of talent. None of the best were female. Women tended to be slightly above average to far below average and most soon rose into management and away from the frontline technical work or they quit to raise a family…
/r/MGTOW16/05/15 02:28 PM
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this is true. You must be a fan of Dawkins (Selfish Gene one of the most important books of our time) That said, one way to view our situation as evolved biological organisms is what a tremendous gift, a huge stroke of luck we as human beings have chanced into. What if that asteroid missed the earth 65 million years ago? Would we even be here? I try to look at life as one big adventure, like a game in some ways. The future is bright indeed for we MGTOW. Its great to now have this brotherhood of …
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 04:42 PM
2

never had a "10". maybe one or two 9's, a whole bunch of 6-8's and a few 5's in my drunken state. In bed there was no correlation between quality of sex and SMV number as far as I could tell. But it was all overrated in the end. I'm 56, never married, no kids, close to 30 relationships with women over a 35 year period. miniscule by NBA standards. A pretty good sample size by my experience with colleagues in my engineering career.
/r/MGTOW11/05/15 08:44 PM
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I sort of understand the labels, Alpha and Beta. can someone explain Omega and Sigma and all the others?? is there a MGTOW dictionary out there somewhere? a little confused here
/r/MGTOW11/05/15 08:34 PM
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you are correct, loner is not a "MGTOW" requirement but it sure makes it easier and more natural. Are all these damaged men MGTOW?? Like I said before, I honestly don't know. As far as women, I really enjoyed my LTR's (longest was 3.5 years, most less than 1 yr). Thankfully I was always immune to manipulation (women OR men) which is why women would eventually tire and dump me and men realize I am no easy mark and also probably a major factor in my accumulating of a considerable amount of wealth.…
/r/MGTOW09/05/15 10:19 PM
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I agree about Nawalt. They really do exist but are extremely rare and most are locked down in marriage before age 30. In my 20's I had the chance to marry Nawalts twice. I declined knowing that I would never be happy in a traditional situation like marriage/kids. Then I discovered Farrell's book "Why men are the way they are" in the late '80's and that book really put into clarity all my thoughts about "what is wrong with this picture?". I probably gave away over a dozen copies of that book in m…
/r/MGTOW09/05/15 05:37 PM
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