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When AI is more rational than most people. Even if the man was bad. Then a woman would still be able to either defend her self by attacking than vulnerable parts or running away from the man. A woman couldn't do any of that with a bear. The dumbest part of the analogy was the fact people automatically assume the worst of the man, and the best of the bear. Automatically assume the man would be some evil rapist just wanting come across a woman in the woods, so he can rape her and do stuff to her c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 12:52 AM
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It's a black flag.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/10/24 05:21 PM
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"mIsAnSrY dOeSn'T kILl"
/r/EverydayMisandry09/10/24 02:01 PM
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Exactly.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/10/24 06:52 PM
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This stuff don't even make me mad anymore. But I do laugh every time when Feminist like this one here have an opposite reaction though. 😂 https://youtu.be/XlipTAynX6k?si=jB8Y9Teau6d0AqJ1 https://youtu.be/5UZetLBx5AA?si=rb0BQTrLv21n-eXy https://youtu.be/ziIl4b_Mmec?si=xygonyicu_b8TSKn Off topic here. Because it's important to bring this topic up. Whenever feminists talk about how much they hate being around men and how much men make them feel uncomfortable, to the point they would rather be alone…
/r/EverydayMisandry08/10/24 12:51 PM
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True, this doesn't surprise me at all. The fact that a lot of liberal minded women are still disgusted or turn off at the thought of dating bisexual men. Because they view bisexual men as "less masculine''. This is very opening. Society raises men to be progressive. While society still raises women to expect traditional expectations from these same progressive men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/24 03:25 AM
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It's I hate when men say "not all men" until they are complaining about not actually wanting any man to not interact with them at all. It becomes very ironic when they complain about men not interacting with them. So in this case they say "not all men" LMAO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 08:55 PM
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It came out in 2019.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 07:26 PM
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And a lot of men don't want to follow gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 02:36 PM
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Great comment here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/24 03:36 PM
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I disagree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 06:39 PM
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Like when feminists say good men wouldn't oppose them. It's just a way to control people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 04:59 PM
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Exactly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 04:59 PM
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This post sums up my feelings about the term "positive masculinity" really well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 04:48 PM
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Thank you the video was definitely hard to get through lol. And very well put comment here. Deconstruction, reconstruction, and reaffirmation are good words to use to describe society's view of masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 01:51 AM
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Fair enough. I was mostly talking about everyday life.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/10/24 12:27 AM
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Nobody should treat each other like royalty. Since nobody is special. People should treat each other like human beings.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/10/24 12:11 AM
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And agree that it's annoying when modern feminism is claimed to be for men too, it doesn't shine an encouraging or positive light on men at all. Seriously can you imagine if the BLM movement was saying that BLM is for white people or police officers? That would be a South Park episode. 🤣 This is a perfect example of Cakism. They want to eat their cake and want to eat it too. Saying feminism is for men. Means that they get to control the narrative around men issues. And come up with the causes of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 08:05 PM
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There has to be a massive cultural shift and it will get a lot worse before it gets better. Yep we are already seeing this with stories about women reporting men to HR for not interacting with them. And feminists are spinning this as something misogynistic Women are already complaining about men not approaching them, not interacting with them, and men not being chivalrous anymore. All because society still universally has rigid gender expectations for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 07:48 PM
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And feminists, including male feminists, see men as an oppressor class. Exactly you are 100 percent right. I had to edit my post to include this. All because you brought up a great point. Like I mentioned in the post, it's an oxymoron for male feminists to be men's rights activists. It's like White BLM Activists also being Activists for white people issues LMAO. How can men have issues when they are oppressors? (🤔). You tell me Mr. Male Feminist who also support men's rights. That just shows you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 07:34 PM
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A small Leftwing niche on YT.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 10:17 PM
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This creator is often in the breadtube circles. I'm not the biggest fan of individuals in the breadtube spaces. But this video was still nicely done though. And had good points. I don't like the idea of calling men who hit women punks. Since men who are considered masculine, brave, or tough in society can also be abusers too. I.E. some Police Officers, Soldiers, and MMA Fighters have been abusers too. And these men are often considered brave by society standards. Also these men can still hit oth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 09:19 PM
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But because some (again not all as you and I agree) pseudo-feminists look at our society in terms of collectivism and guilt by association, it creates a very inflexible dynamic that has opened the door to overgeneralize an entire swath of the population, ignore inconvenient elements they might play into, and determine where injustices or failures lie in the realms of a societal or personal failure. Like for instance, redlining still is a societal failure that punishes an entire race and puts the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 04:58 PM
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Great reply here. this case it's harder because the machines are a part of a larger process to keep society a certian way but that process harms the entire production line. But because there are certian beneficial byproducts from the toxic product, they'd rather keep the toxicity because losing those benefits is unacceptable. Very good way to put it. Cause another part of the whole "I can't tell the difference between good and bad men so I'm avoiding all of them" has the same energy of "I can't …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 04:31 PM
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Try to tell them how women that issues are the result of male gender roles and traditional masculinity being forced on men. Want less women being catcall or approached on the street. Let's make a society where men whole self worth and masculinity is not based on their success with approaching random women on the street. You want women to stop going back to abusers. Get rid of the "women are wonderful" effect. That portrays women as more nurturing. Therefore they can fix the abusers. You want wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 01:56 PM
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This is why I think a lot of Feminists would struggle to pick between Leftwing Male Advocates and the red pill or conservative spaces. It's similar to the red button meme, where the character is forced to pick between two choices that are not ideal. On the surface this seems ridiculous lol. Since Left Male Advocates are more likely to be progressive, not enforce female gender roles. Or be ok with all women rights, women having abortions, women working, etc. But since a lot of Feminists are so ob…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 01:04 PM
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I always feel icky when I get these compliments. Because I'm a person who hates validation from others. I don't need to hear your (not you OP) approval about my self worth as a freaking human.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 02:49 AM
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Meanwhile these are the same people that would say society should care about female victims or black women that are victims of police brutality. Even the victims are mostly black men. But yet when it comes to rape, all of a sudden the amount of victims being affecting by a crime does matter.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/10/24 03:13 PM
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Emphasis on white MEN.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/24 02:57 AM
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I mean if they think black men benefit from male privilege. Then they should think white benefits from white privilege too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/24 06:32 PM
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Probably the same women that probably call men gay or questioned their sexuality when they show interest in sex. And even get upset with men for not being overly horny.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/09/24 04:13 PM
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We must ignore racism for a "believe all women" slogan in order to protect women is crazy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/24 04:11 PM
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Oh they most definitely think "nOt aLl mEn" are creepy when it comes to men who don't approach them or interact with them. Particularly attractive men.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/09/24 02:04 AM
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This rigid protector role will always be forced on men. And it's not good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/24 02:01 AM
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Men are still required to have women at the center of their world at all times. And when we aren't chasing them they get upset, but if we do, then we reinforce their stereotypes about us. BINGO It's the cycle of shit. Step 1: Where men are encouraged to have certain attitudes about gender by society. Step 2: Then get demonized by society for having those same attitudes about gender even despite society telling them to have those attitudes in the first place. Step 3: And then men are mocked for h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/24 09:16 PM
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This is true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/24 03:39 PM
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Most men handle rejection well. I like Destiny. But even sometimes he has some blind spots for men issues. And I also think Destiny is the type to fall for the "positive masculinity" crap/trap. By accidently thinking traditional male gender roles are the solution to men's issues. Ironically no different from a conservative or red-piller view point on men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/24 11:59 AM
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A lot of fair points here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 12:00 PM
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But instead of deconstructing their own biases they come to the conclusion that feminism is about having their cake and eating it too I call this Cakism feminism. And the cakism feminists are far more common than the radical blue hair feminist types. I always found it odd that feminists always had the blue hair man hating stereotype. If I had to generalize feminists. The idea of the Cakism stereotype would be the number one stereotype that came to my mind. Note not all Feminists are like this. B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 12:47 AM
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I guarantee you can post a benevolent sexist or patronizing post about women on that sub. And It can get many upvotes. For example, a question saying what men can do to make women feel safer. You see a bunch of men trying to coddle women's feelings in the threads, and treating them like kids. Talking about walking women home, so they can feel safe. And the mods won't see a problem with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 10:29 PM
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The more I learn about this sub. The more I don't like it. This is the reason why more young boys aren't turning to feminists. Not because they love red pill content.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 08:57 PM
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They want men to be the perfect blend of progressive and traditional. Whatever traits that benefit women is positive masculinity. Whatever traits that don't benefit women is toxic masculinity. Progressive enough to not expect gender roles like cleaning and cooking from women. But at the same time traditional enough to still be protectors and providers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 08:56 PM
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The problem is that they want the "masculine" toxic guys to change for them because they still follow the traditional expectations of masculinity. BINGO
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 08:50 PM
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Obsessed pointing out the contradiction and cognitive dissonance in the movement. And I'm new to this sub. Only been here a year lol. The sub has always gotten the rep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 04:40 PM
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It's not about relationships. People expect men to interact with women in general. Whether this is via approaching women for dates, being chivalrous helping women pick up stuff. If men don't do those things they are viewed as misogynistic or not considered "real men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 01:32 PM
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This is a great way to put it. Men aren't responsible for their emotions. Men are responsible for their actions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 02:06 PM
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Yeah I would still be terrified in a room full of women. Moments like these are when feminists take their mask off, and start using gay as an insult for a man who feels uncomfortable in a room with women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 02:05 PM
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True
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 02:35 AM
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I know what you mean. One example that comes to mind is action heroes. I feel like we're often supposed to both expect women to beat up men, but also to cringe when a woman is hurt by a man in combat. I'm not saying this is universal, as there are some TV shows and movies out there which depict women both kicking ass and getting their own asses kicked, sometimes at the hands of men, but it is a troubling trend I still notice some of the time. Character Videl from Dragon Ball Z is a perfect examp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 10:35 PM
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A thread where multiple people are disagreeing with that person. Even I have responded with disagreement on similar threads. And OP post is about not generalizing. Try harder 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 08:14 PM
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You don't get to post bullshit like this and cry that others are arguing in bad faith. Criticism of a sub that regularly participates in anti-feminist circlejerk nonsense is not "bad faith." Given the climate of self-pity and persistent blame of feminists for everything men suffer through, it's a pretty fair assessment. What is your freaking point here lol. That post question or thread isn't being pro right wing at all. For fuck sakes even the top comment is saying the right doesn't have the ans…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 07:57 PM
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Nope. The bulk of "feminism sucks" and "women are to blame" comments here receive massive upvotes to this day. This includes a handful of your own posts. Again. Ignorance of your own sub. And no self-awareness. Pity. Definitely can't trust you because you are already proving to be in bad faith here. You probably considered any post that criticize feminism bad or toxic. Calling feminism as a whole "cancer" and blaming women from said spaces for why men listen to Andrew Tate is not "calling out" a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 07:29 PM
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Nice try a comment with one like responding to a 51 upvote post where the person is optimistic about Kamala Harris being the President. Probably I had to dig hard for that one lol. You're being bad faith here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 07:07 PM
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You've proven nothing other than your denial of how your subscribers here act. Just because YOU don't say those things, doesn't mean other people here don't. Get a grip. Wrong again most people don't here. And the ones who do say those things. Get pushback, downvotes, and get banned. Haha nope. This sub openly blames feminism for all the woes men face and amounts more to a consistent "why-me" pity party dragging the movement as a whole because people in other so-called progressive spaces pissed …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 07:04 PM
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You don't get to say "I don't care about abortion rights until feminists care about MY rights" or blame women from feminist spaces for why boys listen to right-wing alpha male voices and then try to masquerade as left-wing. There's nothing left-wing about half the posts on here. Wow another one calling us right wing. Therefore my point is proven here. I never said I don't care about abortion rights. Where are you getting this from. If you're gaining the reputation as being another cheap anti-fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 06:39 PM
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Unfortunately this is true. It's not uncommon for people to consider something like this grooming or pedophilia. A YouTuber or streamer was cancelled for dating a 17 year old while he was 19. People say this was bad because of a power dynamic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 03:43 PM
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No it's important to know what their tactics are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 01:09 PM
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Never heard of her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 12:47 PM
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Nicki Minaj and her fan base definitely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 12:45 PM
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I don't know a lot about them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 12:44 PM
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These are some great finds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 12:01 AM
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Man it is actually sad hearing about that. I bet these guys are forced to stay in their male gender roles too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 11:38 PM
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Man it is actually sad hearing about that. I bet these guys are forced to stay in their male gender roles too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 11:38 PM
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There are two big main reasons why this is the case. NUMBER 1: They hate it when the spotlight is one men issue. Because they think it's a zero sum game, where women issues are ignored. And they think the spotlight should always be on women's issues, because they think women have it far worse than men. NUMBER 2: They also hate it when we are too pro equality. We give women too much agency, and we don't engage in benevolent sexism. In their minds they think women are incompetent children who can'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 10:05 PM
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A perfect example is the reaction to our sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 09:36 PM
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This is hilarious and ironic because there is a trend of women saying they are lucky to have ugly privilege. Because they won't get attention from creepy men. And then these are the same women complaining about high beauty standards. And also talk about how women don't wear make up for men. This is ironic, because they expected men to look presentable or attractive to them. The female gaze some would call it lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 05:30 PM
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Facts they are only progressive when it comes to women gender roles being abolished.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 01:38 PM
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I think you are fine. I think this is only a rule for posts, not replies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 05:54 AM
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Fair enough
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 05:29 AM
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The thing is I was going to link the same threads. Because I'm familiar with them. But this sub usually has a rule for not putting links from other subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 05:25 AM
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Yep
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 11:36 PM
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Like OP I’ve learned to just be cordial to women at work and not play along. But since I’ve made that change I’ve been told that I’m “mysterious” and “we don’t know much about you”. At this point I just want to be left alone 😭 This is literally my experience. 😂😭😭😭
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 09:46 PM
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I said "specific examples", as in actual people who exist and you can directly quote them. My specific examples were interactions at my jobs, a quote from a well known feminist, and a whole YouTube video. And you write this all off as me making shit up. Seems like you don't understand the English language if you came to the conclusion that the feminist wasn't being hypocritical for saying that quote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 08:10 PM
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Then why is it so difficult for you to give a specific example of one? I already gave examples in the post. You already wrote off as you can find inconsistent people everywhere. And you already defending that feminist who said she misses cat calling. That's another example you are ignoring. 😂 If you actually read that in the full context, you will she that she doesn't claim to miss it at an intellectual level. She is basically complaining about feelings that she considers to be irrational, and c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 08:01 PM
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I'm not imagining nothing. Women who identified as feminists in the first place are saying these things. I'm not imagining shit. I have to these women real life. A popular feminist author said she hates the fact that society makes her miss cat calling. It's not uncommon for people to have cognitive dissonance at mass. For examples Christians who don't follow the Bible. Why would feminists be any different. You saying I'm imagining stuff when I have my own experience, and other men have the same …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 06:39 PM
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Even the woman in the Aba and Preach video understands men are doing this to make women feel comfortable. Therefore she agrees with this feminist expectation at the very bare minimum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 06:09 PM
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Yeah this is better. 1.Pursuing Women: Men are encouraged to be assertive in pursuing women, but if they come on too strong, they may be accused of toxic masculinity. This creates a paradox where men can't approach women without being labeled a negative term like creep or incel. Emotional Expression: Men are often told to express their emotions to combat toxic masculinity, yet when they do, they can be viewed as weak or overly sensitive, which can lead to ridicule. Friendliness vs. Misinterpreta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 06:07 PM
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I know beauty is subjective I'm more so talking about men that are perceived as unattractive by others. I'm going off stories from men who consider themselves unattractive have told me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 05:19 PM
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This is also true. This is true for all men. The lesbian fetish is a huge stereotype for men of all races. Society thinks men lizard brain can t handle seeing two women kissing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/24 11:15 AM
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Or hate anything men do that go against the status quo of rigid male gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 07:49 PM
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Yep people like that give bad actors ammunition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 07:43 PM
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I totally agree here. This comment is too misogynistic ish.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 07:15 PM
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Very well put. And you are of the mind that everyone should respect one another, and stand up for themselves. So she doesn't realize you're saying she should be empowered. Because she's more focused on her own anger. Sometimes I think I'm too feminist/progressive for most feminists. 🤣😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 03:23 PM
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Cough cough hypoagency and benevolent sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 09:34 PM
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In half of my posts im always talking about being indifferent towards women choices like abortion, wearing make up, sex work, or having hookups. I don't think a misogynistic man would be capable of ignoring those things lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 09:33 PM
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What are some important details to know about the thread. I'm afraid to check on the thread. Because I will be forced to interact with them lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 08:43 PM
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Probably their physicality makes men seem more like a threat or danger in society because of their size and muscles. Men face biological health, like being more likely to get certain diseases like heart disease.challenges and societal pressures to appear strong, While social challenges for women are often about them being seen more pure or less capable. Women encounter slut-shaming because it ruin their virgin image. And biases that undermine their competence, leading to people thinking women ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 06:12 PM
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I would say women have it worse biologically. While men have it worse socially. But the way technology is advancing. It can get better for women. And it can get better for men too, once society just removes the social standards. But that is going to take 2 or 3 more generations lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 06:04 PM
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Seems like a good answer here. They would only be doing this out of pure ignorance. I always questioned their poor takes on why men rape. Because it always lacks nuance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 05:48 PM
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I say suspicious because I don't understand why they would want to do something that can harm women. Are they that obsessed with male gender roles, that they are willing to sacrifice some women in order to maintain the status quo? I already know some of them won't like it if more men weren't interested in pursuing women. Because that would mean less men approaching women. Even though this leads to more creepy men or men who don't understand social cues approaching women. And then women complain …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 05:36 PM
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Oh ok, but just like women. Men shouldn't do things because women like it. They should do whatever they want. Again just women have been told.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:17 PM
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Confidence is just arbitrary bs dude LMAO. Confidence is arbitrary because it varies based on context, individual perception, and the standards used to measure it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:14 PM
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Explain?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 11:09 PM
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They can pass this off as a man being misogynistic for not interacting with women in the work place, because he is discriminating.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/09/24 05:18 PM
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This starts to become an issue, when it's the opposite. Where men (particularly attractive men) are ridiculed for not complimenting women or acknowledging a woman's beauty.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/09/24 03:41 PM
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pushing them closer to the far right and male grifters of the manosphere. Even then feminists can still tolerate that. Like I mentioned in one of the posts. Even misogynistic men served a purpose. That purpose is being a bad guy that society hates. Therefore a way to punish men. Every superhero needs a supervillain. And Pro Wrestling needs Baby Faces and Heels. Male Indifference doesn't allow them to have this rigid good guy vs bad guy dichotomy. This may sound crazy. But this is why I always sa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 03:20 PM
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Edit: In the line where I said a woman reported a man to HR. I made an error. I didn't put the word NOT. She reported a man to HR for NOT interacting with her. Forgot to put the word NOT in that sentence.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/09/24 02:28 PM
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I have seen some women try to play off the stigma of homophobia. By saying men would choose the bear over a gay man. Because of toxic masculinity and how homophobic or insecure/fragile a masculinity is. The thing is we can play this same game with women's disgust or fragile femininity when it comes to homophobia. A good question would be would they rather be alone in the woods with a man, or date bisexual man?
/r/EverydayMisandry19/09/24 01:25 PM
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you were supposed to know that didn't mean you. So this is the only time feminists agree with the phrase "not all men". 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 12:50 PM
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Naw never saw it. Seems like it was your first time on the sub.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 03:10 AM
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Who knows at this point. I'm still waiting.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 02:56 AM
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Again keep this same energy. Don't have a concept of a "good man".
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 02:50 AM
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A lot of homophobia is still normalized in society. Even women are given a pass for their homophobia and biphobia towards bisexual men, and using gay as an insult on straight men. And homophobia is still a taboo subject in the black community.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 02:18 AM
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Yep doesn't matter if they are conservative, feminist, apolitical, religious, atheist, spiritual, hetrosexual, or bisexual. A lot of women won't date bi men, because they view them as less masculine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 12:46 PM
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Even bisexual women won't date bi men. And women still feel the same about straight men who have experimented once and trans attracted men too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 12:39 PM
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It's like Mike Tyson wearing the color pink. Nobody would question that lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 05:47 AM
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Naw, don't own a console.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 01:11 AM
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USA yeah. I'm definitely not voting for Trump. As an Atheist I don't want to live in any Christian nationalist country, where certain Congress members want religion to be forced on school kids.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 12:06 AM
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This is such an interesting perspective. This was a nice read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 09:52 PM
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Yep, I see most people are more likely to choose a slutty daughter over the gay son. That just shows that a lot of people have rigid ideas of male sexuality. And of course the right answer is both. Because nothing is wrong with both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 03:52 PM
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A lot of hardcore metal band guys paint their nails. And are still seen as masculine. I think that's a good example here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 03:24 PM
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I see me and other men have had the same experiences too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 03:15 PM
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Great post. Explain it better than me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 03:07 PM
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Can describe your experiences in progressive circles. I'm just curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 02:05 PM
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Most men would actually be surprised if their girlfriends or wives give them gifts on their birthday. Since men aren't expecting to get gifts. Even on their birthdays. Even a famous female Rapper made a joke, and said when did man start wanting to be treated like girlfriends. Implying that it's a very feminine thing for men to want gifts, and that's bad. So the idea of giving men gifts in relationships, especially on their birthdays. It is such an alien concept for a lot of women. But yet men ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 01:56 PM
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Not to make this a men have it worse type of thing. But gay men have it far worse than their female counterparts. They face more violence, and judgment from society. As a Haitian, my culture is more likely to tolerate lesbians, but hate gay men. Even my mom says she would never want a gay son. There is a reason why the "gay son or slutty daughter" is a popular "would you rather" question online. Because it is similar to men facing less pushback for being slutty, because it is seen as more mascul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 01:50 PM
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True, that's because society automatically associate gay men with femininity. I guessed this makes it hard for gay men that want to be masculine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 01:33 PM
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BINGO
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 04:11 AM
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We will shut about you guys. Once you guys stop perpetuating the same gender related issues you guys claim to hate. And none of us here is concerned with what's best for you. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/24 12:05 AM
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They'll they don't won't construction jobs because of the widespread sexism in those careers, totally ignoring the sexism in STEM fields, politics, and CEOs like positions. This is so funny. Since obvious deflection. 😂😂 I wish they would just say they want the CEO, stem, and politics jobs because of prestige and pay. No one's going to make fun of you for saying you want the most ambitious position. Me too, I'm sure a lot of men don't like their construction jobs too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 10:25 PM
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That's the correct term
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 01:06 PM
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If they say you shouldn't expect women to care about men's issues, you can tell them you'll keep expressing your opinion even if they don't care. A good one would be "then men shouldn't care about women issues". Since they automatically viewed most men as women supporters as a default.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 04:11 AM
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Yaeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 01:01 AM
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If you only want to trigger men with the bear vs man analogy. Then you never really care about female victims of SA. Since the desire makes men angry, it shouldn't be more important than your genuine desire to help female victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 12:04 AM
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I'm sure this is also true. After all TERFS does view trans men as "traitors" or the "enemy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 12:01 AM
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And the ironic thing is most women, and feminist themselves are more likely to respect the men at the top. Because most women, even progressive women love traditional masculinity. And traditional masculinity is associated with a man's success and status. And confidence and ambition is associated with men's success. And most women are attracted to confidence and ambition. So therefore women are more likely to view the men at the top as better morally people because of the halo effect and the trad…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/24 07:55 PM
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I call this the cycle of mask off or the 4 step program. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/24 07:43 PM
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I call this the cycle of mask off or the 4 step program. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/24 07:42 PM
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I call this the cycle of mask off or the 4 step program. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/24 07:42 PM
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Judging off your gender related posts. You seem to have asked some good questions. I like this question. https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/s/lZshG585YE
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 06:36 PM
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1000 percent agree here. Women still make up 51, percent of the population. So they are the majority, not a minority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 06:35 PM
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What was the joke?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 06:29 PM
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Because they are considered the morally superior beings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 04:22 PM
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I don't feel very masculine. I feel the same way too. I have the same experience, people view me as masculine irl. But I have a desire to be masculine. I wonder how this works. Because I hear that other men struggle to be masculine. But I do nothing, but people still think I'm masculine. Again I wonder what goes through people's heads, when they perceive a man as masculine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 12:42 PM
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It's like these people don't know what equality is. Lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 10:49 AM
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Oh I just forgot my password. Made the same name so people can know it's me. 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 10:47 AM
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Don't expect the other good snakes to protect you from the bad snakes. The funny thing about most misandrists, is that they still expect men to adhere to traditional male gender roles like protecting women. But yet they view all men as potential predators. But still expect the same men to be their heroes. Make it make sense.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/09/24 10:03 PM
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Great way to put it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 08:47 PM
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Two different sides of the same coin.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/09/24 03:48 AM
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Even feminists themselves sneakily try to portray male gender roles as something positive. Making it seem like men protecting women is "positive masculinity".
/r/EverydayMisandry06/09/24 02:56 AM
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no I would say you are being dishonest. Because you want me to pretend like women are these perfect angels who can do no wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:43 AM
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No I would say you are being dishonest. Since you want me to pretend like women are these perfect angels who can do no wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:42 AM
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Now you're owning up and not gaslighting anymore. I said that because it is true the women in the comment section were making like men have easier in these dumb one side "50/50'' relationships. I can't hate women if I'm not misogynistic and don't care about their choices. Talking men issues and women perpetuate those issues is not hating women lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:38 AM
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<Did I say that? You must have me confused with someone Your words "you absolutely do hate and resent women". Treating women like human beings who can be just as hypocritical and shitty as men is not hating or resenting women. Only someone who thinks women deserve special treatment would say something like that, after responding to this post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:25 AM
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When scrolling through this sub. There is nothing that suggests this sub is hostile sexism, like some feminist subs claim it is. Most people on here don't want to control what women do with their bodies, I.E. abortion and sexuality. And nobody wants to force rigid gender roles on women, like them not working and staying home and cooking. And most people in this sub think men and women should be equally both legally and socially. If you could read this. And still think this sub is a right wing Ps…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:16 AM
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You are a part of the problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 02:11 AM
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Damn that one is way too hot for me to touch. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 09:35 PM
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Damn that one is way too hot for me to touch. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 09:35 PM
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Things such as men fighting for women, dying for women, helping her carry stuff, helping her with doors, etc, get called benevolent sexism due to the idea that women are weak, except then people turn around to demand those things of men (usually in the form of positive masculinity) anyways as a way to teach men to be better to women, again, granting special treatment to women because she is weaker and the man is stronger or less gentle apparently, or with the ACTUAL sexist idea that men need to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 07:04 PM
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<you really should stay single... (If only they actually could) Butttt. According to studies wOmEn aRe haPpiEr bEiNg sInGle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 06:18 PM
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I noticed a lot of women deflecting in the comment section. Saying how hard women have it because they have to give birth (even though being pregnant is a choice lol), do all the house chores, and deal with the burden of "eMoTiOnAl lAboR".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 05:35 PM
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While they label those desirable men gay or asshole for not acknowledging or worshiping their beauty. Me and other men speak from experience lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 05:04 PM
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Very well put comment here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 06:50 AM
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This sums it up perfectly too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 06:00 AM
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Since when do feminists tout men as natural leaders women should support? I've seen nothing but feminism calling for men losing their leadership position in society. The feminists often see men as superior versions of themselves. Which is why progressive women who are still successful still end up dating traditional masculine men that make more money than them. Because they still view men as the bread winner in relationships. Being a leader is no different. It's another paradox where feminists m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 03:43 AM
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Sums it up perfectly. “B-b-but men as an oppressor class doesnt mean individual men!” This is ironic coming from them. Because this is the same group that hates it when, someone says "not all men". 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 03:22 AM
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Why is this so similar or accurate. 😂😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 01:07 AM
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I agree. But my point is that in theory a lot of Feminists wouldn't actually be ok with helping men. Since they view men as the oppressors. And when push comes to shoved. They would be the first to say men issues are up to them to fix themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 11:43 PM
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I guess it depends on the staring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:54 PM
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Eraser of gay and bisexual men like usual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:24 PM
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When women have that power it's considered empowerment. When men have that same power it's considered a power dynamic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:05 PM
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Perfect way to describe this lol. You can use this emoji (🤝) for a lot of examples of Feminists and Traditional conservatives being two different sides of the same coin. Traditional conservatives 🤝 Radical feminists 1: “Men always should protect women, that's positive masculinity ” 2: Traditional conservatives 🤝 Radical feminists “Men are natural leaders, and women should support them.” 3: Traditional conservatives 🤝 Radical feminists “ Men should be providers.” 4: Traditional conservatives 🤝 Ra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:03 PM
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At least hyperindividualists aren't expecting others to benefit them when it's convenient, since they shouldn't depend on other people. Feminists still expect benefits from men, when it comes to helping women with their issues. While not caring at all about men issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 05:43 PM
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The female gaze is all about them saying "positive/healthy masculinity" is good for men. But in reality it's just traditional masculinity with a progressive gaze.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 05:40 PM
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Maybe gender roles play a role (no pun) here. Men are told they shouldn't hit women, because that's not what "real men" do, and it's the worst thing a man can do. So maybe female abusers take advantage of this male gender role. And weaponize it against male victims. So this seems like an issue that is going unsolved in society.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/09/24 05:38 PM
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Even if women don't realize reveling clothing was an invitation to stare ... THEY KNOW IT NOW. I disagree with this. It's fine if the woman doesn't like men looking at her. Even if she wears revealing clothing or is looking for male attention. No means no, and she doesn't have to be ok with any man looking at her. I just don't like the idea of women thinking they can use sex as a tool to control men. I think this narrative is misandrist, because it paints men as brainless idiots who think with t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 05:35 PM
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Oh yeah absolutely. You are 1000 percent correct here. I would rather be called "gay", "beta male" or "small dick boy" than falsely accused of rape lol. At the end of the day there is nothing wrong with a man being gay, having a small dick, or being a virgin. So these women won't intimidate me with social insults and social pressures. Because legal laws are far worse than social standards.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 01:14 PM
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And, later in life, when they don’t get anywhere, they think ‘society’ is blaming them for being ‘not masculine enough’. They forget it started with the opposite. Elaborate more here. What do you mean by it started with the opposite?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 01:09 PM
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I would like to hear more about the nuance here. Not debating here. Just curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 01:06 PM
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I had a lot of run-ins with group 2 in my life. Calling me gay or thinking I'm odd for not hitting on them. Many men have the experiences too.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 12:01 PM
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You can even tell them that even female police officers are capable of hurting or killing black men too. Since they have access to tasers and guns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 12:45 AM
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What do you think it'll take to change this attitude? The long awaited abolishment of male gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 11:58 PM
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I'm just trying to illustrate a point.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 10:20 PM
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Facts
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 08:38 PM
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Guys seeing these comments from women. You have to think about the opposite. Where women are criticizing men doing the opposite. This is what I usually do. With a lot of switching these scenarios. I find out that there can be a whole new gender based psychology study about this lol. For example. Women who are identified as feminists: Men should leave women alone. Stop approaching women in public because it's creepy and makes us feel uncomfortable. Also women who identified as feminists: Why are …
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 07:56 PM
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Man, this childishness reminds me of my first ex saying she told me we can neither date nor be friends only because she wanted me to prove her wrong and fight for her Yep this is exactly the perfect way to describe it lol. They say they want men to leave them alone. But still expect men to make the first move in conversations though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 03:00 AM
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Meanwhile the men are called cold and standoffish when they don't interact with women or approach. Because that hurt women's feelings. So in this case women's feelings are put over men's feelings again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 02:05 AM
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thotianas?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 12:52 AM
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Great way to put it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 06:07 PM
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There was one popular Feminist who once said "she hates the fact that society makes her miss cat calling". Keep in mind catcalling is bad lol. But this particular Feminist misses it. So you are spot on here. A lot of women seem obsessed with attention or validation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 01:07 PM
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feel the need to frame their own personal preferences as universal standards that women NEED men to live up to, and to frame not meeting those standards as an objective red flag BINGO, a lot of women or feminists think their personal preferences are universal standards for all men. And if men don't live up to them, then they are morally wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 05:42 AM
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Perfect way to describe it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 04:27 AM
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Very spot on comment here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 11:37 PM
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This is exactly it. It's just rage bait at that point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 07:31 PM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 06:19 PM
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Dr. K say men are failing because they are being raised to think female gender roles still exist. This sets up men for failure in society because they realize women they don't need or their money. Since women can work and have successful careers. So men get ontological shocked here. Yea honestly most of the complaints I've seen from women about men is that they no longer follow gender roles. The reason why I brought up Dr. K here. Because I believe the opposite is happening with women here. They…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 03:44 PM
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If attraction is all down to evopsych, that's some pretty damn rapid and arbitrary evolution there. Facts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 10:40 PM
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Yep 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 07:40 PM
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I'm not bisexual. The socialization has nothing to do with someone's sexual orientation. It's just something that is really popular in society. Like straight women making out with women because it's cool and trendy. Because society says it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 07:22 PM
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Socialization. I'm sure biology didn't play a role when it was seen as more masculine for men to make other men bottom for them for sex. While in modern day society gay/bi men are seen less masculine. There entire societies that believe in both. Again it's mostly socialization.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 06:07 PM
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1: Every woman has different preferences. So sure biology could play a role. But men being attracted to blondes should have nothing to do with ideas about femininity. There is a difference between being attracted to a person's aesthetics and the idea of a person. Biology is about aesthetics at the end of the day. Nobody is attracted to a 6 figure bank account at first glance when seeing a handsome man in public. 2: Socialization could still play a role. Because what is considered masculine is ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 05:28 PM
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This was a good video. Videos like this usually make solutions to men's issues about feminism. Where men are usually set up to fail because feminism would lead them towards the same issues with their "positive masculinity" crap or "l love my male gender role cake and want to eat it too" approach towards men issues. So I'm glad this video didn't go down that route.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 05:20 PM
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Men are still expected to propose that it hasn't changed. This is an important point to bring up. https://youtu.be/gKKddGhIniI?si=47eV3o9YP76pxrPf Note I follow this woman channel. She is the type of woman to talk about misogyny, toxic masculinity, and women being forced to follow female gender roles. But yet she finds the idea of women proposing very odd. Because she thinks that's a traditional expectation for men. A lot of women think like this about gender general. They walk between being a t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 05:16 PM
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True, female gender roles aren't harmful at all. Matter of fact most female gender roles just portray women as being valuable in society because they give birth. So therefore women need protection and men to provide for them. The worst thing here is just the benevolent sexism, hypoagency, and the infertilization of women. But again a lot Feminists never really have issues with benevolent sexism in the first place. Matter of fact the harm for women is coming from men who fail to understand these …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 04:41 PM
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Not really these things are still social at the end of the day. If gender roles were biology. Then men would've never been complicit with women abandoning their gender roles in the first place. This is just a classic case of wanting to have your cake and wanting to eat it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 03:38 PM
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Not to mention, they notice that while women on the left complain about toxic masculinity, these women friend zone the non-toxic masculine men (feminine men), and continue to date men with what they call, toxic features. This is the elephant in the room most Feminists don't like talking about. Most women, include themselves being attractted to toxic masculinity or traditional masculinity. Because at the end of the day they still like men that are strong, confident, ambitious, assertive, and are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 02:31 PM
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Like the other person said. We are viewed as right wing or misogynistic because we don't suck their toes or walk on eggshells around them. That's the only way male allies can be considered "good" by their standards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/24 05:22 PM
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Matter of fact most women's issues are caused by male gender roles. For example women don't like being cat called or approached by random men because it makes them uncomfortable. Get rid of the expectation for men to be the ones to always approach or pursue women. And this problem would go away for the most part.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/24 03:16 AM
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This was a good one. 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 11:43 PM
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Replace mediocre white men, with fat women. Not against fat women. But this just reminds me of every woman saying she is a 10. Now I don't take rankings seriously, because it's cringe. But it's ironic how these women are making fun of this idea by having the confidence of a mediocre white man. But when the genders are reversed, mediocre is replaced with perfect. Because all women are perfect lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/08/24 06:41 PM
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Facts
/r/EverydayMisandry28/08/24 06:33 PM
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Many feminists truly don't see men as human beings. Only as either evil oppressors, or former oppressors that better work their asses off to redeem themselves. Oh my god this is the perfect way to describe this whole topic. And the former oppressor are what they considered "positive masculinity".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 06:20 PM
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Meanwhile women hate me when I say I don't care if a woman wears make up or doesn't wear make up. Since men being neutral is also a bad thing lol. Since they either want a reaction (negative or positive) from men. Like the trap known as the "does this dress make me look fat" question with no right answer. Since the woman will still be mad at the man for any answer. Or they don't like neutrality from men, because that means they aren't getting attention from men. This is my experience with women …
/r/EverydayMisandry28/08/24 04:58 PM
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It's rare to find a real feminist by definition in my experience. This is very true. Seeing most women's reaction towards dating bisexual men. They view bi men as more feminine. And they constantly use gay as insult to downplay a straight man masculinity. This makes me realize that most women don't care about toxic masculinity when it affects men. Just the misogynistic parts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 04:24 PM
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Saw one of her vids. This was a great video. Especially when I always bring up gender paradoxes in most of my posts. https://youtu.be/-t3j0jRR3k0?si=OO-VOEo-boZJyFq1 I don't talk much about relationships. But judging by the top comment talking about something called the jealous trap. I'm sure there are a shit ton of paradoxes in relationships. 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 04:21 PM
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Right wing views. LMAO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 02:02 AM
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I’m curious, however, as to your opinions on certain coping mechanisms for male loneliness, such as sigmas, MGTOW and passport bros. Obviously, most of the left seems to be against anything that doesn’t lead to the full subscription to female supremacy. But are these movements as “far-right incels” as feminism would like us to believe? Or are there some good ideas in those movements, even if they sometimes get taken advantage of by the far right? Mgtow as a concept is great. Funny enough feminis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 08:41 PM
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Thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 02:17 PM
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Oh boy if the gender roles were reversed. The amount of times you would see feminists screaming words like entitlement or saying "you getting laid is not my problem".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 12:04 PM
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I was with you until you brought up the >be a captain save a hoe for these women after they had been promiscuous in the past. Part Promiscuous women are the least of our worries lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 11:14 AM
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Know where I can find this stream?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 10:22 PM
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Feminist rebuttal is that men don't work hard enough or this is a skill issue. The funny thing is if we truly still live in a patriarchy or male privilege society. Even the laziest men and poorest men would still be above the most successful women. So why are women still getting opportunities in this "patriarchal society".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 06:56 PM
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And in my last post I mentioned that men shouldn't care about what women want. Since this is a tactic red pillers are used against male feminists in debates. Because male feminists pretend like most women don't want those things. So the best response to red pillers is to say I don't care if women want those things. Because these roles are still harmful to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 01:57 PM
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Your entire post is a perfect example of the 3 steps cycle of shit program. You still need to have rizz in these circles, even when you are courting dommes in liberal environments where "you need to treat women like human beings and not instruction manuals". >But when it's in the company of just dudes, now they talk about rizz i.e "yo what line you use to rizz a girl." And the Step 1: Encourage men to have rizz. So they can get the girls. ✅ What's even funny is that rizz used to be referred to a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 01:54 PM
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There is nothing more annoying than dude bro feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 04:47 AM
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They aren’t an alien species, they are just people. I don't treat women like an alien species. Men get criticized for doing the opposite. Treating women like people. If it’s everyone then you might be the issue. Nope this is the experience of a lot of men, not just me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 04:44 AM
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Man you came up with one paradox way better than mine. This was hilarious and so on point too. 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 11:47 PM
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Relationships between men and women should be a lot simpler than society makes them imo Sometimes society makes it seem like relationships are a rocket science. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 11:34 PM
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No I'm definitely not saying I'm rare. I'm just using myself as an example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 11:22 PM
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Most of society put men into two boxes I call Johnny Bravos and Dekus. I'm sure most people are familiar with Johnny Bravo. But Deku is a male character from the anime My Hero Academia who is afraid to be around any female character. He starts blushing and fainting around women. So basically he is the opposite of Johnny Bravo. Who is always approaching or pursuing women. By trying to hint at them or get their numbers all the time with his "rizz". In real life I honestly believe a lot of women ge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 11:09 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 10:47 PM
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1000 percent agree here. People tend to forget that a lot of women are still socially conservative. Heck even their dating preferences exposed this. With them still waiting to date traditional masculine men. It doesn't matter how much they love LGBTQ people. Dating a bisexual man is still a major taboo for a lot of women. So this idea of most women being super progressive is silly. Even the women who identified as feminists, aren't that progressive lol. It's like saying hardcore gangster Rappers…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 12:14 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/abanpreach/s/6bCxVBlQEG This post is a perfect example of my post. Someone in the comment section is already trying to use validation from women to influence men's opinions. The person pulls out the cliche "women want this card" as a way to deflect from my argument of men not being protectors. And I didn't fall for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 02:39 AM
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Agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 09:15 PM
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I remember FD saying he found it funny when Jonathan Majors was running away from that woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 07:23 PM
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Another example of society thinking women don't have agency. So women don't have no control on whether they can get pregnant or not.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/08/24 02:59 AM
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Looks like people finally started to get more wide on that sub 😂. Judging off that thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 12:17 AM
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Its like they're trying to bait us into being creepy just so they can complain about it. BINGO.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/08/24 07:23 PM
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And also don't forget men are blamed for issues where women or women shaming LMAO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 06:06 PM
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Their actions and sometimes, the lack of it, shows that they either don’t care or want to keep the status quo when it comes to men’s issues. This explains the topic way better than me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 05:03 PM
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In the end that same misandry is so against trans women and bisexual men. Therefore still having some homophobic aspects in society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 04:56 PM
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"wtf is wrong with men" when men do something bad. "Wtf is wrong with humanity (or men)" when women do something bad.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/08/24 04:44 PM
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So, in my books, women are the ones that set men up to be in positions of power. That it changes is a good thing, but if women truly want things to durably change, they have to rethink their mate selection strategy. I.e., if women still, as a group, seek the dominant male, male will continue to strive to be dominant. The funny thing about feminists, is that their personal taste in dating and their paradoxical traditional masculinity expectations will always expose their hypocrisy, when they want…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 01:58 PM
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Like Dave Chappelle said, women just didn't like their cut in the after the heist. Everybody plays a role in patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 01:40 PM
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Ok thank you for correcting the time stamp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 01:23 PM
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This was a good read. I'm glad you relate and understand this post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 03:42 AM
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Great way to interpret the movie. I like this perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 01:24 AM
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😂😂
/r/EverydayMisandry22/08/24 12:34 AM
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Asocial men generally refuse to jump through many of the hoops men are supposed to jump through, which makes it harder for society to extract value from them. They risk destabilizing the whole game, and they must be punished for it. Just like how women who pursue men risk destabilizing the game and must be slut shamed for it. As they say, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Amazing analogy and comparison here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 11:27 PM
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Hard for me to continue being a feminist when so many women are not feminist. Even the feminists themselves still have the same traditional expectations for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 09:15 PM
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Yes there is definitely a validation aspect here. Men must get validation from both men and women. Both men and women, especially feminists like to say don't worry about what other men say about you. You should worry about what women say about you. Even this is still bad. Because of the women are wonderful effect, people automatically think a validation from women should matter more to straight men. And of course this still causes issues for men. Because women themselves still have the rigid gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 07:26 PM
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women never initiate either, instead they always filter men. The elephant in the room these guys don't like talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 11:55 AM
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Yep 😂
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/24 02:00 AM
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Oh boy feminists love infantilizing women. So women are mentally different now? Lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/24 01:09 AM
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It's always silly when cheating is considered a crime, unless the person's health is at risk, because of diseases. Judging from the stories and what people say about India. How can India be this highly misogynistic and highly misandrist country at the same time? But then again you can say the same thing about the USA.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/24 03:37 AM
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They are major hypocrites. The same reason they insult men by calling them gay, not misogynistic. Because deep down inside these views a man being a virgin or gay/bisexual as the worst thing a man can be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 06:03 PM
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Like, they even make fun of the « grind mindset », I don't really get it. Somehow they think that men focusing their energy on work and gym is bad, instead of focusing on friends ? I think they are upset with that because men aren't focused on women. And that's a "bad thing" to them. Because we all know a man's life should revolve around a woman (sarcasm).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 03:44 PM
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Yeah exactly like I said In a different reply male feminists, conservatives, and red pillers are different sides of the same coin. All 3 types hate it when men go against the status quo. The status quo is holding onto male gender roles and going back to the plantation and play the monkey dance like you said. Whether it's male feminists expecting all men to be these wonderful panthers to women. Conservatives wanting men to make women the most important thing in their life. Or red pillers wanting …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 03:13 PM
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The same dating norms even the most progressive and feminist of women support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 03:03 PM
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And they love their girlfriend/wife a lot more than they love them. Because they are desperate not to lose her and be alone. They are afraid of being alone. They base their self-worth as a human being on having a girlfriend/wife. Notice how these men will never talk about what women can do to make men happy or feel love in relationships. Because they know dam well they don't want their female fanbase to attack them with a lot of comments saying it's not a woman's job to be a man therapist or mot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 03:02 PM
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BINGO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 02:58 PM
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True I'm sure black people or gay people aren't choosing the bear over a white person or straight person. Matter of fact most would choose a white straight woman. Because of the women are wonderful effect. Meaning they think women would always be safe. Matter of fact out of all the oppressed group women seem to be the most privileged. Not just because they are given a pass to be hateful. It's also the fact that other marginalized groups aren't viewed as being wonderful or magical beings for just…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/08/24 01:32 PM
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Ok keep it up. At this point. Orange is the new black right. Soon the "misogyny is a response to misandry" will be the new "misandry is a response to misogyny". If boys keep being exposed to this. At this point only the gender wars have a better chance at making boys hate women. No amount of white racism or "hetrophobia" have radicalized a lot of white people or straight people to hate black people or gay people. Only the gender wars have accomplished this at a high level.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/08/24 01:11 PM
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Yep he is a part of a cycle I call the cycle of shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 05:36 AM
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So no different from red pillers like Andrew Tate. It's always funny how male feminists, conservatives, or red pill men always turn out be two sides of the same coin. It's like they mirror each other so perfectly. Even despite each side hating each other. Like the saying goes, different toilets, but same shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 05:28 AM
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This is 100 percent correct. I can hear The traditional expectation of men protecting women, every time a feminist says "men should stand up for women, and hold bad men accountable".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/24 12:53 AM
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Yae seems like it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 06:11 PM
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Meanwhile men are still hated or criticized for not interacting with women or avoiding women. And call misogynistic or weirdos for not talking to women. You can't make this stuff up
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/24 05:56 PM
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Same experience here. Like people say. They want it Both ways.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/24 01:35 PM
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Good observation here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 01:32 PM
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Anybody thinking conservative values is the solution to men's issues, is a straight up comedian LMAO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:47 AM
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Feminists even have an ideal form of masculinity they called "positive masculinity", they expect or want all men to adhere to. It's funny because this form of masculinity called positive masculinity is giving me déjà vu, and sounds familiar. Hasn't rang a bell yet though. I believe it's called t.r.a.d.i.t.i.o.n.a.l. masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:43 AM
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Yep sometimes it's even difficult to tell the difference between male feminists and conservatives. Put Steve Harvey or Ben Shapiro and Hasanabi or FD Signifier in the same room blind. And I bet all of them would have similar opinions or the same opinions when it comes to how men should protect women. Both are different sides of the same coin. Both are benevolent sexists. Side tangent here. Off topic but there was a beef between FD Signifier and a YouTuber called Kidology about black issues and F…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:39 AM
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Conservatives and red pillers are detrimental to men rights. Look at the dumb shit Andrew Tate brother said about women and kids should be the only ones to get asylum, not men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:23 AM
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When it comes to criminal organizations like street gangs, motorcycle gangs, drug cartels, and mafias. I won't be surprised if feminists still view the female gang members as victims. And have more sympathy for female gang members than innocent male bystanders who get killed in the crossfire. They can easily take away agency from female gang members. And say they didn't have a choice, so they had to join gangs. Meanwhile thousands of male gang members are killed by rivals. And all the gang membe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:17 AM
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1: Men are actually dying because of misandry (cough cough laws and wars) 2: We can just downplay misogyny as women just complaining about mensplaining and men spreading too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:07 AM
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Feminists would probably have the same opinions or similar opinions at best. Both have a "pull yourself by your bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men issues.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/24 10:21 PM
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His brother Andrew Tate is the same idiot who says he wants to help men. These Jack asses are always two faces when it comes to men issues.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/24 10:20 PM
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Yeah this narrative is giving "women are wonderful" vibes. Because they make it seem like women are these magical creatures who are making the married men happy with just their presence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 04:00 AM
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I'm not saying that, I'm just pointing out how they would be fans of this show in a hypothetical. And probably have sympathy for the female character. Therefore putting out a double standard when it comes to their reaction to male suicide. When they probably be fans of that show.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/24 01:04 AM
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It's a popular show about a girl who kills herself and records 13 tapes before killing herself. The tapes are 13 Reasons why she killed herself. She wanted people to know why she killed herself. I said I wouldn't be surprised if the same people saying men kill themselves for attention would be the fans of this show. Since the show is essentially about a girl who killed herself for attention lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/24 12:13 AM
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I'm sure the same people love the 13 Reasons why show. As someone usually says on this sub. They wouldn't have any standards, if they didn't have double standards.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/08/24 06:54 PM
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Popular beliefs will have you believe men are these dumb kids who are just willing to give information about themselves online to random women.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/08/24 06:24 PM
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True since I'm sure unattractive guys can desirable traits too. And attractive guys can be unlikeable too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 05:59 PM
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ubiquitous is the right word to describe this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 12:21 AM
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If I was bitching about women. I would talk about women who don't like me because I'm short or have a small dick. But instead I'm talking about serious issues like false allegations, rigid male gender norms, and hypocrisy. Pointing out how women play a role in this is not bitching about women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 11:21 PM
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This is even beyond misandry. It's sick. Even if it's just a joke.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/08/24 08:40 PM
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It's the apex hierarchy. Men at the top and men at the bottom. It's not only men upholding this oligarchy. Women and even feminists themselves play a role in this Oligarchy. Even the most progressive girl boss still wants to date up. Therefore they go after the men at the top, automatically Because they are attracted to status, and they view those men as more masculine. And the same feminist women look down upon the men at the bottom, since they considered those men entitled losers or incels. So…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 04:47 PM
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There was a question that said why you became a feminist. I replied and I said because I think women should have the same rights as men. And that comment got so many down votes lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 04:40 PM
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And it becomes much worse when some feminists are hypocrites who want to have it both ways. So they upheld certain aspects of this patriarchy when it benefits women (I.E. women being ok with benevolent sexism because it's convenient).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 04:38 PM
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Your comment is brilliant here. We all know even women and feminist themselves are still teaching young boys patriarchal. Especially when it comes to benevolent sexism, positive masculinity, and male gender roles. This is something I call the 3 steps of the cycle of shit. Where men are expected to do two different things at once. But are still hated in both scenarios, even despite being told what to do by Feminists. Already made a lot of posts about these steps. we supposedly teach boys to suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/24 05:34 PM
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I won't be surprised if the same women who say stuff like this. Still ironically, men should be their natural protectors against the predators too. Since it's considered "positive masculinity". "Positive masculinity" is just repacked traditional masculinity with a progressive female Cakism gaze. Because they love to cherry pick. I can't believe I'm saying this. But oh boy I missed the radical feminists, because they were consistent. Didn't want men to open doors for them because they were capabl…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/08/24 04:22 PM
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If the gender were reversed both the right and the left would be mocking men for being gay. Because men don't get social points for being gay. Because of the stigma associated with gay men.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 09:40 PM
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Every time I see a woman or feminist say something like this. (Saying stuff like how men should do better, or saying how men should stop making women feel uncomfortable.) A quote from a famous feminist always pops out in my head. "I hate the fact that society makes me miss cat calling". So again whenever I hear women/feminists say something like "wHaT sHoUlD bE dOnE aBoUT mEn". This quote automatically pops up in my head. Almost like women saying stuff like this is triggering a buzzword in my he…
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 09:30 PM
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And also the thing liberals don't understand is that red pill men like Tate, Sneako, and Myron already know their intentions behind their insults. So they are catching on. They are even using the same arguments and talking points we are using in this thread. Calling the left out for being hypocrites for body shaming and being homophobic. So you are 1000 percent right here. This will back fire on the left. Since red pill men are aware of the intentions behind the insults. And probably not affecte…
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 09:04 PM
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The homophobia becomes blatant and masks off once liberals reveal their true feelings about bisexual men or pansexual men being in relationships with women. Since it's still taboo for a man to be bisexual in society, even in progressive places. So to them men are either gay or straight. Not that different from how conservatives see it.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 08:57 PM
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It gets worse when people are using homophobia to attack bad men or men they don't like.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 08:55 PM
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Thank you. I remember seeing this video. But I don't remember a lot, since I saw it a long time ago. So thx for bringing me this video now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:26 PM
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Even Wonder Woman constantly saves her pilot boyfriend, it's often played up for laughs. Because it's a man that needs a woman to save him. Which is bizarre since Wonder Woman is a Superhuman saving a normal human. So this should be fine. https://youtu.be/xyKXBxK82LE?si=lS0eDxTD3bR8wyCe 3:12 Batman just casually mocking this man for no reason, after barley knowing anything about him. I didn't watch any of the Wonder Woman movies. But I won't be surprised if both movies were filled with jokes lik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 01:31 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/UnjNG7JVrh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 06:07 PM
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being served food first, etc. is a fair compensation and reparation for the injustices. I think it perpetuates traditional gender roles, and men actually experience more violence. As a black person. Can you imagine if black people felt the same way. Wanting white people to open doors for them or be super nice to them because they are oppressed. But somehow this doesn't exist. There is no such thing as a "real white person" (I.E. "real man"). This type of hypocrisy only seems to be common when it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 01:02 PM
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Amen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 12:09 AM
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They aren't that much different from their feminist counterparts. Long answer here Both female feminists and tradcon women have Schrödinger's values Schrödinger's feminism: a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most. Schrödinger's traditionalism. A woman is simultaneously a naturally submissive person, but also has the same rights as men, until something happens.Then she chooses which state benefits her the most. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 12:06 AM
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Even tho it’s celebrated and deemed as progressive when women say they are backing away from dating men. This is 100 percent true. It's another double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 06:05 PM
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They always make it about themselves. Even when men are making up groups like MGTOW to stay away from women. They still get mad. Despite this being something they claim to want. For men to go away. There are so many stories of women in the workplace or the public getting upset because men aren't interacting with them or approaching them anymore. The streamer Ninja got cancelled for saying he doesn't want to be alone with a random woman. Like you said this is about men protecting themselves. And …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 04:47 PM
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You are completely right here. They only care about the parts of toxic masculinity that affect women, not men. This would be fine, if feminists only focused on women issues. But they don't though. Feminists are either making men issues more difficult, for example stopping shelters for male victims. Since they don't take male victims of SA seriously. I think that's an issue that doesn't affect men. Or they are ironically still expecting men to follow traditional male gender roles. For example, st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 03:59 PM
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the whole video is describing why people doing whatever they want is not a good thing and you're just like "nah i dont agree, not gonna give you a reason." So in other words he thinks promiscuity is bad lol. this doesn't respond to why the video claims promiscuity is bad, you're just saying that you don't think promiscuity is bad. I don't have to make any responses. Because this is someone's lifestyle has nothing to do with me or you. So it doesn't make sense to have an opinion on what people sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 02:06 AM
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Judging from the title, and seeing the words sexual revolution. Is giving me bad vibes, even if the title could potentially just be click bait or a hook. I don't know how unpopular this opinion is. But I don't give a fuck about women being promiscuous and wanting sex. They can do whatever they want. As long as it's safe consensual sex, I don't give a shit. Even though this non charlatant attitude towards women choices usually gets me in trouble with women or feminists. Because I make the mistake…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 01:17 AM
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Not even flaws. Just particular preferences or expectations they have for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/24 06:47 PM
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How do you want to convince the men who decided to no longer interact with women in any way to change their mind when you read absolute garbage like this ? And the funny thing is the same feminists on that subs are the same women calling men misogynists, incels, or undercover creeps for not wanting to interact with women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 07:42 PM
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That's the type of BS I hate. This is another classic trope of feminists thinking women don't have agency. Enough agency to consent in this case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 07:38 PM
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And it doesn't help that Feminists themselves help perpetuate this same rape culture they criticize. I call this the steps of the cycle of shit. Step 1: Men are encouraged to be the ones to approach women in public or pursue women. Because it's a traditional masculine expectation expected of men. It's a traditional gender role even the progressive people expect men to do. Even popular Hollywood romantic movies made by Feminists for women reflect this reality. Step 2: Then men are demonized for c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 07:36 PM
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Best explanation here.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/08/24 05:54 PM
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They switch the narrative whenever it's beneficial.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/08/24 05:05 PM
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But but but MIsAnDrY dOeSnT kIlLeD
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 01:11 PM
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We live in a society where bias towards women is strong. To use an off topic example here that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with lenient sentences in general. So this may be a specific example here when it comes to male abuse victims. Don't believe me, ask Amber Heard. No seriously, she literally said how society won't take a man seriously in court because he is a man. She just flat out said that, with the mask off. So even someone like Amber Heard recognized this obvious bias. Why ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 03:33 AM
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Some women do that because they have gender expectations for men. And individualism goes against those gender expectations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 09:41 PM
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Could you detail what you think this man looks like? What do you believe the left wing man should be? Someone who is an individual who is forced to follow gender roles. Individualism goes against the status quo by default. So individualism is the ideal man to be because the bare minimum is so low.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 07:51 PM
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By social power I more so mean influence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:51 PM
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that reinforces and even goes harder on the Male Gender Role. You know it's an issue when the average progressive woman you meet has mild homophobic views towards men at the bare minimum. Since they use terms like sassy and gay as insults. This worries me a lot. Since I thought we progressive as a society. Bisexual men are still taboo or an hell no for progressive women. Outside the fear of AIDS or infidelity with bi men. A lot of women no matter how progressive they are still view bi men as les…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 02:25 PM
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These are fair points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 04:44 AM
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I'm not sure if you are asking me to explain what a dog whistle is. Or asking how this is considered a dog whistle. So I will answer both. A dog whistle in politics is a coded message that has a different meaning for the intended audience compared to the general public. In this case feminists are doing a dog whistle with the statement "men must hold bad men accountable". And have a hidden agenda behind this statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 04:43 AM
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Feminist: Because of patriarchy men make more money and are more likely to have jobs. So therefore men must pay on dates. Also feminists: Constantly brag about women and being independently girl bosses who don't need men. And how they are doing better in education and certain job fields. While also saying how men are far behind and failing in school. But yet men must still have to pay for dates. I call this logic the best of 3 worlds. Where feminists want women to be viewed as morally superior, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 04:39 AM
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Could be wrong here. But judging from your comment you seem to be a woman that identifies as a feminist. So I think the solution here is that Feminists probably need to start a group or new form of Feminism that call out this hypocrisy or a distance themselves from this hypocrisy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:30 AM
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Facts. Like someone said in this sub. Male gender roles are pro feminist. And women who lead more feminist on the spectrum still respond better to benevolent sexist men. And have a strong hatred for men who treat both men and women equally. At some point the smart or consistent feminists need to start a breadtube sub group. Because they are clearly a part of movement where millions don't actually follow feminist ideals. The double standards are even affecting LGBTQ men too. Even the most progres…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:17 AM
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They are always finding new bullshit ways to justify male gender roles. Either through flat out going masks off and demanding that men follow these gender roles. Or they do dog whistles like what you said with them ignoring the fact that men always have to ask first. For example, a lot of feminist still secretly like the idea that men should risk their lives to protect women in dangerous situations. So instead of going mask off. They have to hide behind statements like "men should hold other men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:11 AM
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Feminist: I'm not your maid, clean your own dam mess and make your food. Also feminist: Take out the trash and fix broken things because it's a man's job. Feminist: We don't need men. Also feminist: Men should be allies that stand up for women and defend women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:02 AM
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Feminists still expecting traditional gender roles from men is nothing new or surprising. It's no different from Socialists who like capitalism when it's convenient. This is why I hate the term "positive masculinity". Since it's just a sneaky way to trick men into following traditional gender roles. Somehow protecting women in dangerous situations by other men, bears, and natural disasters is good for men. And providing security and a comfortable livelihood for women is somehow good for men. Fel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 02:51 AM
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This is true. I agree. Reasoning doesn't automatically equal right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 05:24 AM
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The India one is the most insane. I don't understand how feminists can throw rocks and be perpetrators of men's issues. And then turn around and say that men's issues are only caused by other men. If feminists want to be neutral or indifferent to men issues. Then that's ok. At least indifference to men issues is better than opposition men issues. Something feminists usually do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 06:46 AM
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look beyond the most shallow of men's problems True, on the ask feminists sub they make jokes about how the only issue me not getting laid. Making jokes about female privilege meaning getting attention from creepy men. This is why I hate bringing up dating or others bringing it up when talking about men issues. It's an easy way for feminists to try to downplay men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 06:36 AM
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Stop Using Tragedies to Say Feminists ‘Don’t Care About Important Issues’ This automatically translates to I want to deflect men issues, by generalizing all people who talk about men issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 06:33 AM
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Yep I remember you show me that clip.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 01:55 AM
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I didn't call anyone a rapist. My point is that if he is constantly being accused of sexual impropriety, then there might actually be something about his behavior that is making women uncomfortable No I'm not. Again this is a paradox. I constantly get shit for not being sexual impropriety lol. So it's the opposite. So you are way off here. Since you are making assumptions about me. I will make assumptions about you too. I know you and your friends might not experience this. Because you guys prob…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 01:47 AM
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You can have empowerment or equality, pick one. Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 10:27 PM
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Hypocrisy at its finest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 07:19 PM
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Where is the "left wing male advocacy" going on, because it's lots of complaints, and a bit of a lack focus or talking about problem solving/solutions imo It's hard to not talk about women. Since they make up 51 percent of the percent of the population. And often used their female privilege to be obstacles for left wing male advocacy. Telling men to protect themselves against false accusations and traditional gender roles is left wing male advocacy. Because these issues negatively affect men hor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 07:18 PM
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For me I don't care about making people mad. If a woman said they wanted to cook for me. I would straight up tell them I don't need a maid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 06:47 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/9NxpHHwxPc
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 08:34 AM
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Avoiding talking to women over fears of rape accusations is "treating women like normal people"?.. Me and other men have experienced negative interactions with women even when we keep conversations just work related. And yes it is treating women like normal people. Since men are like this to other men too. And again it's not just about fears of rape accusations. Gender roles are a factor here too. Men shouldn't be pressured to conform to gender roles like being chivalrous to women. Jesus dude. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 04:07 AM
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but just not talking to women because you assume they're all the manipulative, vindictive, evil type of woman to bring false allegations against you is kind of the definition of sexist. The thing is they don't have to be evil. They can misinterpret your actions, they can have regrets, or it's a third party that causes issues for men. All of these are situations where women are not being evil. It's just the way society is set up. I don't see how that's any different than women treating every man …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 02:59 AM
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I think the common explanation here is this. A lot of women (not all) still expect certain gender specific treatment from men. That treatment is based on chivalry. Sure a lot of women like equality. But there is still an unwritten rule for men to be chivalrous to women in society. And men are punished when they break that social rule. So in this hybrid society where women are half feminist and half traditional. A man not being chivalrous can often be viewed as misogyny or that man being a woman …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 02:52 AM
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The ironic thing most women or feminist would view the ideal male feminist as misogynistic. There is even a study that says women respond better to benevolent sexist men. While they view men who treat them as equals as misogynistic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 01:20 AM
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Sadly it's still the same today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 11:37 PM
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We all know the stigma towards gay men has always been worse.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/07/24 06:54 PM
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I made a post similar to this topic. https://www.reddit.com/r/abanpreach/s/nq0pHRThvm In conclusion it seems like women have more social power as a class compared to other oppressed or marginalized groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/24 01:58 AM
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These aren't double standards. These are super double standards lol. After watching a few of his videos. These ATA stories blew my mind when it came to gender double standards. And that is saying a lot, since my mind was already blown. Now these stories make me see gender double in a whole new light now. Kind of off topic here, but not off topic though. But this post made me think of another form of double standards. There are also benevolent double standards that exist too. For example a lot of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 11:21 PM
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It's one of those double edged swords type of situations. They may love benevolent sexism. Because it makes men chivalrous or nice to women. And want to protect women and provide for women. But at the same time women risk getting their agency downplay and being viewed as incompetent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 06:01 PM
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The only common form of sexism outside conservative places is benevolent sexism. Benevolent sexism is still bad of course, even despite being benevolent. But the problem here is. That most feminists don't care about benevolent sexism nowadays. Because it's a form of sexism towards women that conveniently benefits women. So this is an issue that feminists need to fix themselves. Since they are usually ones still holding onto benevolent sexism and also traditional male gender roles too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 04:41 AM
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Anything else is just prejudice imo I.E. men being expected to be chalrvious to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 06:16 AM
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Keep in mind a lot of women do want equal relationships. They just prefer one sided relationships instead though. Meaning everything is equal on their side. While the man is still limited to traditional gender roles on his side. Again it's one sided for a lot of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/24 11:14 PM
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1000 percent agree here. I definitely see where you are coming from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/24 11:46 PM
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Menslib is a psyop. 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/24 11:01 PM
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Menslib is a feminist gulag designed to turn your attention away from actual men’s issues, and turn it toward bullshit men’s issues like the right to paint your nails and encouraging men cry more, abd refocus your actions so you are only furthering feminist goals and propaganda. And the ironic thing is men doing these feminine things might make them less attractive to women. Even feminists themselves. But feminists don't mention this though. Exhibit A (https://youtu.be/PfblT2TcVmI?si=-czdr6hjSbq…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/24 11:00 PM
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You see, liberating men from gender norms is against men's liberation... or is it not pro-feminist? No you can't have that. Because a lot of feminists still want women to benefit from gender norms that negatively affect men. Hence why most of these Men's Libs are reformed dude bros. Meaning they must maintain some level of traditional masculinity, in order to please female feminists. Especially when it comes to romantic relationships. Heck even in everyday life. For example if you hear feminist …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/24 10:55 PM
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Yes I rarely black people get praise for making these inflammatory racist remarks about white people. As someone who is black. I noticed racist black people are more likely to be called other by other black people in the black community. While sexism against men is normalized in a woman's spaces. And the feminists and the media justify this by saying women are oppressed, male privilege, the patriarchy, blah blah. And I can't even imagine hetrophobia lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/07/24 01:32 AM
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I believe a lot of feminists still hold conservative views though. Especially when it comes to male gender roles and patronizing women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 05:09 AM
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This is definitely true. Same with action movies too. Where male badasses can constantly beat any male. But never put their hands on women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 07:57 AM
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Interesting. Can you elaborate more?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 07:27 AM
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You're right though about how dangerous this line of thinking it. If there is a truly toxic masculinity it is the kind that emerges in 'gang' institutions: nihilistic violent competition over women and money. Whether its a gang in contemporary America or a koryos in the ancient Eurasian steppe, the kind of 'toxic masculinity' exhibited here is extremely dangerous and anti-social; the incel movement which is primarily one of resignation and depression is utterly benign compared to this. The fact …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 06:29 AM
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Wow I remember this. I can't believe I didn't bring up this in the post. Thank you for mentioning this. Because that is a great point from Dr. K.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:18 AM
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No I'm not these women do actually identify as feminists. Or considered themselves feminists. I'm not stupid. I can tell the difference between Pearl Davis and Emma Watson views.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:38 PM
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They are just a bunch of reformed dudebros. Just like Hasan lol. I noticed male feminists come in two types. The less traditional masculinity male feminists people call "soy boys". Note I strongly disagree with calling a man a "soy boy". And the second type of male feminist is the reformed dudebros. Ironically they are the ones who get the most attention in female feminist spaces. These are the male feminist women are talking about whenever they say men should hold other men accountable or stand…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:35 PM
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True
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:23 PM
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Walking around on eggshells for feminism in order to nerfed men issues is not going to help them save men from the reactionary right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 08:40 AM
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The only way men can win the game is to be a perfect balance between traditional masculinity and progressive masculinity. The problem here is that this is unfair. And no human is perfect. Men aren't these robots, women can switch the settings on lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 08:38 AM
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Which essentially is: "Men's issues are the fault of: - Men - Toxic Masculinity - The Patriarchy They do all of this while ignoring how women and even feminists themselves perpetuate toxic masculinity and uphold the patriarchy. it's foolish when they blame men's issues on just other men. When male liberals/feminists are still expected to adhere to traditional gender roles in their progressive relationships. It's not other men forcing that standard on them in that case. When bisexual men are extr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 08:35 AM
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This is very true. Even progressive women don't view bi men as "real men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 02:36 AM
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Man your example is better than my example. Because your example is perfect. This is where the encouragement comes in. Boys are encouraged to be rambunctious by society. Then society does the 180 and complain about how rambunctious boys are. And then still complain about alternative boys that are more reserved. It's the cycle of shit. I don't know your life. But I assume this same teacher didn't have this same reaction towards reserved girls lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/24 11:50 PM
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Not just gay man, a bisexual man too. Since bi men are still viewed as gay men in society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/24 09:25 PM
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A lot of women still think it's a man's job in 50/50 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:59 PM
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Switch the genders and women would be screaming "tHe bArE mInImUm" or "tHe bAr iS iN hElL".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:47 AM
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Outside the first one all of this is specific. You are deflecting here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:45 AM
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Exactly 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:43 AM
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What percentage of women take out the trash and cut the grass?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:42 AM
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Even women that are strangers still expect the same traditional expectations from random men. If a woman is in trouble. They expect random men in their vicinity to risk their life to save them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:39 AM
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Testing your partner is one of the many reasons why I hate shitty things men have to deal with in society lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 01:37 AM
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It's the same thing when they say they wish men would leave them alone. But still get mad at men who avoid women or don't interact with women. They just like to have it both ways. It's Cakism. Where they want their cake and want to eat it too.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 04:45 AM
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The same women would get offended if an incel said sex bots are better than. And the incel said if a woman got offended, they are a part of the problem. Or better yet imagine calling a black person dangerous or sus for getting offended at racist saying something like most crimes are always committed by black people.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 01:55 AM
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He is one of those men's lib type of men that needs to constantly walk on eggshells when explaining men issues. Or at least explain men issues through an acceptable feminist framework. Where men's issues are the faults of other men or themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 10:57 PM
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And the ironic thing no one talks about. Is despite all the complaining these women do about toxic masculinity and patriarchy. These same women still perpetuate toxic masculinity and patriarchy. And ironically prefer to still live in a society where men are still forced to live up to ridgid ideas of masculinity. These feminists are no different from socialists who complain about capitalism but still buy very expensive things and benefit from child labor in other countries. These feminists are no…
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 06:48 PM
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This creates a paradox where the same women are complaining about how gross and sex obsessed men are. And even considered male sexuality predatory. But yet again the same women would still accused men of being gay for not approaching them or hitting on them, or acknowledging their beauty. So there is never a win for men in this paradox. Unless they just ignore society standards and just be themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/24 05:06 PM
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Fair enough
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 05:43 AM
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This is more so targeted at the small group of men that whole a lot power. And are sometimes the major players in men's issues. This isn't about all rich men though. Should've worded it better l.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 05:38 AM
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Humans take risks when just driving.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/07/24 05:09 PM
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This is when homophobia comes in. When even people on the left start using gay as an insult on single men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 05:08 PM
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This is when homophobia comes in. When even people on the left start using gay as an insult on single men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 05:08 PM
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Well put here. Honestly explain it better than me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 09:50 PM
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Facts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 08:57 PM
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The firemen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 06:26 PM
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That's because masculinity is arbitrary. Contrary to popular beliefs masculinity isn't something biological. Different cultures, societies, and individuals have different standards of masculinity. Hence why I rather individualism over vague universal standard for masculinity any day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 06:17 PM
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I can't. It's only negative when people are using masculinity to justify bad behavior. Similar to religion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 06:01 PM
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Joke or not. This is a perfect example of feminists having this cakeism paradox where they want men to treat women as equals and give women princess treatment at the same time. She talks about how the robots are not genderless, they are masculine coded. But if there were female transformers, she would probably still expect some level of traditional gender expectations between male and female robots. If feminists were more consistent with their views or beliefs. Men like me or men on this sub, wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 06:00 PM
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I saw this video right now. But I couldn't find the joke. Can you time stamp the joke for me with a more specific time?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 05:44 PM
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I often see leftist or alternative men behave as ‘non-masculine’ as possible for fear of being called dominant, sexist etc. The sad thing is that even heterosexual/bisexual feminists aren't attracted to those men, and will never date those men. Because they themselves don't consider those male feminists "real men". That's why I always say positive masculinity is just repackage traditional masculinity with a progressive female gaze.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 05:27 PM
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Men Going Their Own Way and liberating themselves by not confirming to gendered societal roles and expectations is a good thing isn't it? How is it not ideal? I agree it's ideal. It's just MGTOW still has the potential to be the victim of dogmatic beliefs. And might put a standard on all men. Is it not preferable to the existing double bind most men are currently placed in? And of course, it is something that a wider society will have to adapt to. What I mean when I say this will cause issues. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 11:12 PM
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It's ok. It's all good
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 10:59 PM
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This all makes sense. I 1000 percent agree with you. I was just adding more to what you were saying. Sorry if I didn't word that well enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 10:05 PM
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In the way women are objectifying themselves here. And I don't mean that in a feminist empowerment or liberally free way. I mean that in a traditional sense. Where women use gay or small D as insults on men who aren't obsessed with their looks. Because these women think their looks give them value. It's one of those double edged sword things. Where women can get a lot of validation and praise from society when it comes to their looks. But on the down side their looks are the only value society s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 08:41 PM
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If we actually want a more progressive future then the cakeism has to be dropped. Preach brother. This one quote describes my post way better than me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 11:46 AM
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I never support any RP narrative. I even said the RP still follows the status quo of society. And I don't like the status quo. So the RP is the opposite of everything I believe in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 03:58 AM
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You are obviously sympathetic to TRP, and critical of MGTOW, but they're two sides of the same coin. Huh I hate all masculine movements. I'm pro gender abolishment. Why would support any RP narrative lol. You meet a few assholes and decide that the stereotype is the only type? Isn't that one of the logical fallacies that the MRM strives against? When did I generalize here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/24 03:50 AM
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Gross 🤢
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/24 05:51 AM
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This reminds me of a post I made a few days ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/cx9d0nDfNx
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 02:26 PM
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Granted I know part of it is that people think I give off a heel CM Punk vibe ("I'm straight edge and I'm better than you!") because I have resting bitch face (as a man) and people think I'm just disinterested in them if I'm not chatty. When really it's just my social battery running low or I am overstimulated. Or sometimes I just don't know what to say. Or I unconsciously self-censor and mask. I can somewhat relate here. I'm kind of asocial, not necessarily an introvert. My personality has gott…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 07:28 PM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 07:12 PM
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When women do it's a "humanity is fuck is up" type of thing at best. Or the very worst it's a "women are just responding to decades of misogyny" type of thing. But when men do it. It's all of a sudden "this is why women pick the bear Grizzle Grizzle". It's a dark double standard when it comes to the morality of both genders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 07:11 PM
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Exactly 😂😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 03:52 PM
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This sub just seems like they want to walk on eggshells when discussing men's issues. Because they don't want pissed off some feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 01:35 AM
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Notice how men have to be held accountable for bad things their male friends do or even male strangers they don't know do in the media. But it's misogyny to hold a woman accountable for having a boyfriend or husband who has terrible bigoted views. Because society shouldn't' criticize the woman at all. Because her partner doesn't reflect her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 01:33 AM
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It really is a reality that I can’t fathom. Yep this is something I still struggle to fathom. But I have experienced it numerous times in real life though. Sure this is anecdotal. But it did happen more than once.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/07/24 01:20 AM
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It's the cycle of shit. I constantly see women complain about how they hate when men catcall them or at least approach them in public. Because it comes off as creepy and makes them scared/uncomfortable. Their fear is valid. But in reality these are the same women that call me or other men gay or assholes for not interacting with them. It's another weird gender roles paradox. Where you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. So it's a no win situation. This video in the link is another per…
/r/EverydayMisandry04/07/24 01:11 AM
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True fair point. As someone from the Bahamas. It's like that too. Innocent men get hurt too, for no reason. But the crazy thing is society is more likely to have sympathy for female gang members that are criminals dying compared to male innocent civilians. I noticed that people are more likely to say female gang members should get a pass in the criminal underworld because they are women, similar to giving kid gang members a past. Meanwhile the same people don't bathe an eye whenever an innocent …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 10:37 PM
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Yep it's usually men that join criminal organizations like street gangs, Mafias, biker gangs, drug cartels, or prison gangs. So most of the violence is just gang members killing each other. Some feminists make it seem like most of the violence is being done by drunk men and sports fans getting into fights at bars that turn into killings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 04:19 PM
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Yep it's called the toxic masculinity vs positive masculinity paradox. Where men have to be the perfect mixture of progressiveness and traditional masculinity.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/07/24 06:52 AM
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They glorify cis men. They want cis men protecting them in bathrooms. A lot of down votes. Albeit I don't 100 percent agree with you on the TERFs are not misandrits part. But you do get a point here though. A lot of feminists still associate masculinity with a man protecting women.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/06/24 11:47 PM
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Or single and not in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/24 07:27 AM
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Not good for men's issues at all.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/06/24 06:24 PM
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Even as a straight man, I can relate to not living up to women standards of masculinity. And these are the same people that have gay besties too. They use Feminism and the woman card to justify/deflect their bigotry Saying that bisexual men are misogynistic for forcing women to date them. They would rather strawman the criticism for this "preference". Then to try to understand their homophobic reasons for having this "preference" in the first place. If women are allowed to have a preference that…
/r/EverydayMisandry22/06/24 02:17 AM
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That's so sad man. Hopefully we can soon live in a society where men are more accepted for being bisexual.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/06/24 12:17 AM
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A lot of women are grossed out by bisexual men.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/06/24 11:19 PM
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That's because they subconsciously think a man being gay/bisexual, a virgin, or having a small dick is something to be laugh at or ridicule.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 09:51 PM
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Because of this bisexual men are hated.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/06/24 02:08 PM
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This is the type of rhetoric that harms bi women, gay men, bi men, and trans women. Being attracted to men is viewed as an attraction that makes you less than by a lot of people. Hence why a lot of women are turned off by bi men. Treating being attracted to men as something gross fuels homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia. Think about it. If the genders were reversed. And an incel or MRA person said this. Because men being attracted to each other is something mocked in society. The amount homop…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/06/24 09:01 AM
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Explain it way better than me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/24 01:16 AM
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I.E. a man being bisexual or pansexual is one of those non toxic icks to them. So you are right most women have rigid ideas of masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/24 07:08 PM
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Agree 1000 percent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 02:48 AM
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The problem is most women demand that men treat them in a benevolent sexist way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 02:10 AM
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