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Of course. Most actual misogyny gets removed whereas misandry gets propelled to the top.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 10:00 PM
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Could you please stop calling weak men "disabled"? No one calls physically stronger women "freaks" or anything similar (Well, maybe except the feminists since they hate anyone who doesn't fit into their worldview). If you're actually for equality then please start treating physically weak men and men who can't fight back against attacks like regural people.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 08:02 PM
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Yep, and the fact that I got asked so many times why I don't just report being assaulted by a woman when what is most likely to happen is that she will just say that she was just defending herself and I will be the one to get in legal trouble. And then the femishits have the nerve to come out with their violence statistics when men can literally be punished for reporting what had happenened to them.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:50 PM
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I'm glad that you're finally admitting this now, also please keep in mind that we also have to deal with military conscription (in many countries in the world), lack of support in areas such as housing assistance, circumcision, get all of the traditional male gender roles forced onto us and plenty of other injustices and when we try to fight for our rights or say that we would much rather be born female as to not suffer we get silenced. Thank you for taking the time to make this post.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:42 PM
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OP said feminists or MRAs, not men or women, Supporters of both of these groups can be of either gender.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:34 PM
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There are feminist groups in Europe who are literally right now fighting against gender-neutral DV laws and gender-neutral conscription, so, No All feminism has ever done for men is harm them. And feminists are literally the biggest perpetuators of gender norms and stereotypes. Edit: Typo
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:32 PM
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Yes, I don't know exactly what's it like to be a woman but I would still give almost anything to be a woman just based on how many systemic priviliges women have. I don't think most of the women saying they would rather be men realise that they could be drafted, would likely be expected to do physicaly demanding tasks, get circumcised against their will perfectly legally and then be told that it's not a big deal, get punched by the opposite sex and instead of getting justice be told that they de…
/r/MensRights21/07/26 11:44 PM
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Yes, This exactly!
/r/MensRights21/07/26 11:23 PM
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The why are most feminist politicians against making conscription and the entirity of military structures gender-neutral? When Norway made conscription gender-neutral it was feminist organsiations that were complaining about it on grounds of women supposedly "having different interests and as such would not enjoy serving in the military". It wasn't the "patriarchy" opposing that. And Yes, I'm a male MRA and I obviously want both conscription laws and everything around military structures to be g…
/r/MensRights20/07/26 11:13 PM
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I said that in my post, What I meant is that we should be looking at the underlaying cause of most of the misogyny, not normalise it or excuse it. I believe we can actually start solving everyone's issues but we have to look at the entire picture, including at what is mostly driving men to make misogynistic statements.
/r/MensRights20/07/26 11:01 PM
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This type of thinking is also why so many female preds get unnoticed. The main reason that people don't really see women being out with children or men as a potential threat is because most female PDFs abuse little boys and society mostly doesn't care about boys being victmised, same with female r*pists mostly victimising men as society also mostly doesn't care about male r*pe victims.
/r/MensRights20/07/26 10:57 PM
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But it's supposedly women who are the disadvantaged and oppressed sex and there is supposedly no misandry or any systemic injustices against men apparently.
/r/MensRights19/07/26 08:50 PM
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I don't think that person was saying they are under one another but rather that they both suck. And I live in the EU and I do concur that, save for a few areas, it is now mostly a joke in its current state.
/r/MensRights19/07/26 08:47 PM
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Because feminist women still want the right to vote and make all the decisions whereas men have to deal with all of the consequences from it, so it's one of the most important points to make.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:57 PM
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Yes, Pretty much?
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:48 PM
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None of that makes feminism justified. You can advocate for these issues without supporting feminism.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:44 PM
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That's usually because men still have to carry the responsibility. Feminists still want only men to be drafted when women get to vote and decide whether pro-war politicians get elected. That's not equality.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:42 PM
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Again, with that stupid shit, I told you how they were always compensated. Being exempt from military service and taken care of/provided for is a massive advanatge and many women back then wanted it that way.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:28 PM
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Most established feminist and women's orgs officialy hold that position.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:25 PM
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Women were always compensated when they didn't have decision making by being exempt from military service and moist societal responsibilities so the idea that men somehow treated tham as having second class status is ridiculous. And now women in most countries in the world are still exempt from military service yet make most of the decisions and people like you will still claim that they're the "disadvanataged sex".
/r/MensRights14/07/26 09:54 PM
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lol try going into any feminist space and challange their views. You'll be banned immediately.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 09:49 PM
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Personally I would say that if you just acknowledge that men face real issues and be open about listening to them about it then that would be a great start.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 09:36 PM
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There are a few countries where conscription laws are actually gender-neutral, so claiming that the US is "better" in this regard is setting the bar too low in my opinion.
/r/MensRights12/07/26 11:45 PM
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Even if it was a tiny percentage of the population, it might still get people's attention if we talked about it in the context that I mentioned, especially since there are already people talking about it except they usually blame the "trans agenda" and that often does get echoed and talked about by many people. So there are enough people who clearly do care about this, they usually just won't blame feminism for it.
/r/MensRights12/07/26 10:57 PM
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I was talking about feminists, which includes male feminists with whom I personaly have had many of these experiences with.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:51 PM
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Honestly I think there are both the naive types who have been lied to and actually believe that men's lives are easier and then those who know damn well that they are the priviliged ones and are scared of losing their priviliges. What gets me the most however, is when some of those feminists claim how they think they would have been better off being born male, yet in the same breath they'll say that they want to be provided for because of their sex, don't want to do heavy lifting and pretty much…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 07:22 PM
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You do realise that there are more countries than the United States of America, right? And the fact that I could get in legal trouble for reporting it is what keeps me (and I would assume many other men) from taking any action. You know, If you'd just admit that there is a systemic disadvantage that male victims face that would actually affect some change instead of trying to deny it. Talking about this does NOT take away from female victims. We can talk about all kinds of systemic issues withou…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 08:14 PM
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Thank you for standing up for me and everyone else in a similar situation. However the wort part about this is that I will have to continue living life without any of the protections that would get if I were female and will have to constantly deal with listening to how there's no way that I can be that weak or that I'm "playing victim" or "deflecting" from female victims merely for demanding some basic level of justice. It's also pretty exhausting in general. I get literally depressed seeing wom…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 07:54 PM
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I understand that, but one thing that I find extremely harmful as a man is being attacked for saying that I would much rather be born female. I'm not denying that there are negatives to being female but rather that I would much rather deal with those than what I have to deal with being a man.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 07:37 PM
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The worst part for me is having to listen to all the "You as a man can defend yourself in an attrecation" and "Women comitting DV against men doesn't matter because men can just stop it with one hand" even though if I tried any of that I would probably end up with a few broken bones at best. Also the fact that if I was exactly as strong as I am now but lucky enough to be born fermale I would be the beneficiary of all the protection that women get by default since they're babies yet I have to dea…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 10:00 PM
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Not to insert myself into your conversation but just beware that if you check that user's history you can see it's just a Troll account.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 09:49 PM
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Except the fact that male victims get silenced means that it is a systemic issue and it needs a campaign. Why does everything has to be framed like also including male victims would be such an issue? Stigma? You mean the same stigma women who were SA'd have to go through? You realise that if I went and reported what happened to me I could get straight up arrested for "misogyny" or "misogynistic speech". It's not safe for me to report it unlike for women which, again, makes it systemic. You hones…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 09:47 PM
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I'm talking about overal violence, which is most of the time unreported when it's female on male.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:41 PM
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Except why can't you admit that fermale on male violence is an issue too and that men need protection too? You wouldn't put any other group of people (e.g. Black people are stronger on average than white people so that means that white people don't deserve protection) I hate the idea that this is a zero sum game and that the conversation would never move forward if we gave men basic rights and recognise that weak men need the same amount of protection as most women.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:36 PM
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Like I said I understand all that, I'm saying that the fact that I have to listen to how I must be able to defend myself if no weapons are inolved and that if I punched the aberage women that it would cause any significant damage, which just isn't true for me, I get that even physically strong men can be vulnurable, my point is that I still have to deal with listening to that on top of everything.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:31 PM
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I get that, my point is that even in hand to hand altercations someone like me would have very little chance of defending myself, inclusing from most women, and the constant denialisim and the assumptions that I don't need protection from that type of violence just because I have a penis and that I always must be able to defend myself unlike a woman is still in itself pretty traumatising.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 05:19 PM
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Thank you for saying that. What gets me so exhausted is that there are barely any spaces where the mere existence of men who can't really defend themselves from most people, including most women, doesn't get completely denied.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 05:03 PM
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I get that, but I wish we could at least acknowledge that not all men are that physically strong even if the discrimination continuesd. The fact that the mere existence of physically weak men who have been victims of violence is completely erased makes it that much worse.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 05:00 PM
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Feminists still reguralry claim things like "feminism is for everyone" if that were true they would recognise all violence and woudn't be applying the average onto everyone.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 04:47 PM
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But also just the fact that the average strenght isn't representative of every single man, and yet so many feminists have the nerve to talk about how "feminism is for everyone" Yeah it will NEVER be for people like me.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 04:39 PM
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The issue with just stating someone's name without providing links is that they're not always named that on every platform, are not always on all major platforms and sometimes there are accounts with extremely similar names which can get confusing. So my point is that including links is always the best thing to do.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:03 AM
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There are definitely women who do have empathy towards men. I don't know what percentage they make up but it's not 1% or anything as low as that.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 10:56 PM
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I don't want to be more specific as I already shared so many things relating to my life on this account and I don't want to risk doxing myself, but I live somewhere in the EU.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 10:54 PM
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Men vote too, but in many countries in the world women make up the majority vote and are usually considered an important voting block by most politicians, so almost no political candidate is going to propose expanding conscription to women because they know that they would lose most of the women voting base. Also, in many places women are far more likely to vote for pro-war politicians than men. And Yes there are policies that disproportionately affect women too, but there is usually a lot more …
/r/MensRights22/06/26 10:51 PM
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I would argue that those who do those things are still feminist even if they don't idenitfy as such.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 10:09 PM
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How so? What's the problem other than participating in the fascist ideology that is feminism then?
/r/MensRights22/06/26 09:56 PM
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You can always compare the sytemic isuess without necessarily having to experience it yourself. I know I would give almost anything to be born female so I never have to worry about being drafted, have genital autonomy, get all of the protection that women and girls get by default, have all the oportunities that only women get and never have to listen to how I supposedly have it better and how I'm supposedly opressing the opposite sex.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 09:50 PM
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I understand that, but taking a few bad apples as examplees is exactly what the feminists do to invalidate us, all whilst the overwhelming majority of feminists push the idea that men can't be r*ped and that women should be allowed to hit men and that nonconsensual circumcison shouldn't be banned. Either way, I try to do my best to call out the bad ones and I do agree that we should aboslutely police our movement to get rid of those.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 08:30 PM
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I think there were surveys conducted that showed a lot of women do not actualy believe that. They often do not actualy speak up against it though and I think that is a big hurdle.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 08:25 PM
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I understand that there are some MRAs who do hold a certain degree of animosity towards women but I think most MRAs hate feminism, not women.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 08:14 PM
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I don't personaly agree with that take but as a man I think I can relate to an extent. It's like with women in Afganistan, I get that there are plenty of injustices that women over there face but they still have things that I never had and will most likely never have, such as never having to worry about being drafted, never having to do most of the physicaly demanding tasks and they are still seen as vulnurable and in need of protection. I'm not even saying that the women there have it overal be…
/r/MensRights21/06/26 07:20 PM
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As much as I hate feminists, it's a sub about asking women specificaly, I wouldn't want an ask men subreddit to have women answering instead. And this is a Men's Rights space. Both men and women can be MRAs and Men's Rights Ideology is about women's issues too, so that isn't a very accurate comparison.
/r/MensRights20/06/26 05:34 AM
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I don't actually know and when I tried to pull it up using various archiving tools on all snapshots it was either banned or set to private.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:19 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to do this, and to be clear we do NOT want a gender war, we're fighting back against the feminists who deny us our bassic rights, tell us that we can't get r*ped or SAd and similar things. We don't want to fight against women. Also your experience kind of shows that many women and girls probably have no idea what it's like to be a man. I wish more women who have no idea what men go through would get to see it.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:17 PM
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Thank you for saying this, Unfortunately, efforts like these usually get attacked with "but talking about male victims takes away from female victims" But I still greatly appreciate you caring.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:57 PM
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Most of that is unreported. And women are straight up allowed to hit and SA men so of course the statistics are going to show that men are the primary abusers because society actually cares about female victims.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:24 PM
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I can't speak for you but if there is no pushback against feminism then any chance at building a decent society is lost. So I still think that fighting as hard as you possibly can is the most responsible thing to do.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:54 AM
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I honestly don't know but I think we should do our best to try even it it seems the odds are completely against us. We really don't have much to lose but our chains.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:46 AM
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I had to say it now, after almost 30 years of having to endure being male in this society I just kind of let this all out this very early morning in my time zone. I'm tired of not being able to at least speak the truth if society already doesn't care what happens to me.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:34 AM
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Have you thought about the reason why men supposedly get denied from childcare roles ? Have you ever pondered as to why parents don’t hire male babysitters or a male childcare worker ? Because most female PDFs only harm and s*xually a*use boys and society doesn't care when boys get victimised. Plenty of men have experienced harassment from feminist women in public. I'm not going to search for any vidoes for you now. you can do that yourself. And your argument about "finding a different school" i…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:27 AM
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If I didn't want to put up a fight against feminism I would probably have in all seriousness already deleted myself, so I still want to fight, but part of that is recognising that men are systemically opressed.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:14 AM
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Thanks for sharing that, and your experience kind of shows how important women speaking out against feminism is and why I wish the female anti-feminists would be more active (I definitely value all of the current effort but women speaking out is going to have a lot more effect than anything else so that;s why it's so important)
/r/MensRights18/06/26 05:01 AM
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Again just completely invalidating those. You're turning real issues into "fear of being jusdged". I guarntee you do not do this for women's issues and instead you're all like "oh yes you're opressed and it must be so hard being a woman" and similar shit. And those issues existing before feminism doesn't change the fact that pretty much no feminist wants to make conscription gender enutral and they actively fight against it, no feminist wants to take the right to hit men away from women, almost …
/r/MensRights18/06/26 04:56 AM
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Then why is there plenty of data showing that men often get denied childcare roles (at least in Europe) if i'm supposedly wrong? And there are plenty of other systemic disadavanatges for men who raise children such as changing roms being women only and the fact that men who raise children often have to face harassment from feminists everywhere. And feminists say those things all the time, at least stop with the denailism. And at least dress codes that are seixst towards girls and women end when …
/r/MensRights18/06/26 04:43 AM
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also r/antifeminism got banned all while there are so many subs hateful towards men it's sickening.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 03:34 AM
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I'm tired of repeating this all the time but here you go: -I can be drafted in the country I'm a citizen of at any time whereas women are exempt and allowed to vote for pro-war politicains -Women are allowed to hit me, touvh me without consent and perpetrate Sexual abuse towards me -I never had any genital bodily autonomy being born male -I can't work in fileds like childcare without facing serious discrimination -I had to face plenty of housing discrimnation when looking for flats to rent -I am…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 03:28 AM
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So what if I said "it's not all women but always a woman" when calling out female abuse?
/r/MensRights18/06/26 03:19 AM
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Because you're ignoring that most violence committed by women is unreported and that women are straight up allowed to hit us and touch us without consent, so of course the statistics are going to show male violence against women being dominant as that's the only type of violence society cares about.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 03:16 AM
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I would do almost everything to have to do all of the traditionally female gender roles instead of the traditionally male gender roles.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 03:02 AM
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Honestly to me it seems like the more society does for women the more unhappy the feminists get.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 02:59 AM
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The exact problem is that feminism doesn't want any of that.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 02:57 AM
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Men face systemic discrimination in these roles and many employers and schools enforce sexist dress codes against men and boys. So your statement is invalid. And men have always wanted to do these roles. It's feminist women who say things like "Only women deserve to raise children" so it's women oppressing men, not the other way around. And not every country has states you idiot.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 02:49 AM
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Then please stop conflating women and feminism. I do agree that there are plenty of good women lout there but all of those oppose feminism. There are no good women in the world who are feminists. And I can't just "decide" to stop being systemically oppressed by feminism. Please stop pushing that denialistic rhetoric here.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 02:41 AM
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The fact that you label men as someonee who can't ever be vulnurable shows me just how much of a hateful fascist you are.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 12:02 AM
0

Except that kind of rhetoric is pretty popular in feminist spaces so chalking it up to a few "extremists" is ignoring just how proliferated that view truly is.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 11:40 PM
1

Not all women vote for feminist politicians, and there are still plenty of male feminists voting for those politicians as well.
/r/MensRights12/06/26 09:25 PM
1

Most media and feminist organisations make that accusation all the time.
/r/MensRights12/06/26 09:23 PM
1

I'm glad that you're speaking out about this but honestly I wish we could do more actual activism to advocate for actual equality, merely talking about this and not taking any action is not going to change much.
/r/MensRights11/06/26 12:21 AM
2

Yeah Exactly! And then the fact that so many feminists have the nerve to complain about dress codes being "sexist to women" when the opposite is true the majority of times is so stupid.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 09:42 PM
1

Except this space gets constantly invaded by feminists who tell us that men supposedly can't be victims of female abuse and that supposedly men can't get r*ped because "I just don't believe that can happen" whereas women have far more safe spaces and can get attention in politics and not just on a relatively small subreeddit, so that is not a good comparison. Women also have hundrerds of international organisations that advocate for them whereas men get maybe a few that get constabtly attacked a…
/r/MensRights07/06/26 09:38 PM
1

The main issue with this is that women don't get called "misandrists" and "far-right" and don't get silenced for talking about their issues.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 09:30 PM
2

I already mentioned it in my post? Making conscription laws gender neutral, access to violence shelters, recognition of male victims of fermale abuse and a ban on nonconsensual cirrcumcision are just a few examples of what most feminists oppose.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 09:28 PM
1

Then what do you subscribe to may I ask?
/r/MensRights07/06/26 09:25 PM
1

Plenty of feminists will then also say things like "Feminsm is a movement for women" or sometimes also "Why don't men start their own movement?" type of responses whenever someone brings up the fact that feminists completely ignore men's issues, as if we didn't get completely silenced and attacked whenever we do actually try to do just that.
/r/MensRights03/06/26 05:42 PM
2

Exactly! Anyone who identifies with a movement that can't even completely define itself is just inevitably going to be associated with the actual fascists.
/r/MensRights03/06/26 05:08 PM
10

The irony of so many feminists claiming that women can do everything that men can yet once we start discussing violence perpetrated by women then suddenly women are all helpless creatures who pose no real threat is so glaring.
/r/MensRights01/06/26 09:46 PM
2

The why be a part of a movemeent that is full of people who believe in the oppsite of what you do?
/r/MensRights01/06/26 09:25 PM
2

Andrew Tate has never labeled himself an MRA, You can show me the proof of where he did so if you think I'm wrong. I honestly think you're being completely disingenous, And if feminism is supposedly about actual equality then the mere existence of even a few feminist organisations that put men down completely refutes that idea.
/r/MensRights01/06/26 09:23 PM
2

So you would say that labeling all white supremacists as being racist is a stupid absolute general statement made about an entire group?
/r/MensRights01/06/26 09:17 PM
1

Except when you have such a high number of self-identified feminists and feminists organisations who do excuse female abuse (there are even some in the comments on this post) then continuing to support a movement like that IS practically condoning the abuse apologia.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:35 PM
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Then why can't those "real" feminists stop calling themselves that to disassociate themselves from the misandrists as that would be one of the simplest things to do? Genuinely asking.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:31 PM
7

Once again, Feminism is an ideology, Men are a gender. Women can choose to stop being feminists at any time and there are plenty of women who already oppose feminism. So that comparison is just stupid.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:24 PM
1

Then why are there so many feminist organisations IRL that advocate against support for male victims? Also if the "online feminists propped up by the algorithm" do not reflect the views of most feminists then why can't the supposedly "real" feminists have the basic most decency to no longer call themselves feminists if there are so many self-proclaimed feminists who excuse female abusers? I would never identify with a movement that excused male abusers on such a scale that you can't genuienly sa…
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:21 PM
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Because they'd probably be labeled as "misogynists", "hateful" and "far-right" if they did.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:10 PM
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Yes, This exactly!
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:08 PM
6

Again, just excusing abusers because of your personal anecdotes, You're just proving my point that all feminists excuse abuse.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 10:08 PM
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Ok, fair enough I stand corrected and I should have said that it's a significant number of feminists instead of saying all, but the overwhelming number of feminists still actively excuse female on make abuse so that point still stands.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 06:02 PM
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So you would say that the statement that "all white supremacists hate non-white people and want a society that oppresses anyone who doen't fit the definition of being white" is generalising all white supremacists and that white supremacists aren't just one person or belief?
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:59 PM
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That's only in the US, There are plenty of countries worldwide where it has been the feminists who have actively opposed conscription being gender-neutral.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:57 PM
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It happens pretty rarely The fact that you open with this is proving my point, feamle on male SA happens all the time except most of us don't report it because of systemic feminism and the fact taht we would most likely get arrested for "misogynistic speech" or something similar. You just want to excuse female abusers.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:55 PM
8

Yes, This is exactly my experience as well. It's a women's world, Men get basically no protection at all.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:49 PM
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Not only that but they actively fight against men who advocate for themselves and try to solve thier issues.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:41 PM
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Feminists want only men to be dfarted and sent to wars whereas women are exempt even tough they can vote almost everywhere and thus contribute to making the decisions to start wars. Feminists oppose a ban on nonconsensual circumcision. Feminists deny that men can be victims of r*pe, SA or Sexaul Harrassment and they actively protest men having access to violence shelters. Feminists don't want women to lose the right to hit men. Many men (myself included) are indeed physically weak and women are …
/r/MensRights28/05/26 05:22 PM
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I'm referring to being born female in the ame place, at the same time and to the same parents. I understand that there are other factors that affect you life experience which is why I'm specifically talking about gender in which you're specifically periviliged. I understand that I'm still priviliged for being a white European but I would still give almost anything to be born female. And also the backlash that Taylor Swift got is still nothing compared rto what men get told. And no matter what ha…
/r/MensRights18/05/26 08:05 PM
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I never said that? I said that it's easier to be a woman for a large number of reasons and also that female abusers are often straight up celebrated for what they did, Which part of that did you not understand?
/r/MensRights18/05/26 07:55 PM
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If you go to pretty much any feminist space you'll be able to find them, also many organisations such as Women's Aid push that idea all the time.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:28 PM
2

What's so odd about not wanting to suffer?
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:26 PM
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Not all of them.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:24 PM
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I would much rather deal with what women have to go through. Men have it harder overal.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:15 PM
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Ok, to be clear I'm not saying that women don't have specific issues, I'm saying they are not silenced the same way as men for advocating for themselves and don't get attacked if they say that they would much rather be born the opposite sex. And let's be honest, the overwhelming majority of women would not want to trade their issues for being forced into the millitary or get their genitals cut after birth, yet I think most men (myself included) would much rather deal with women's issues than wha…
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:13 PM
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Of course it is. Female abusers are often straight up celebrated for what they did.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:05 PM
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The irony is that with comments like these you are literally proving my point.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:04 PM
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Not all women are way weaker than men, and it's fine if you don't want to be a woman, If you actually read my ;post you'd see that I was talking about the men who WOULD want it.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 09:03 PM
1

I think that varies based on each individual crime.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 09:09 PM
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I think someone can't handle female privilige being discussed.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:51 PM
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I think it is related to the point that women's issues get taken seriously and that you're still insanely prviliged for being female. You may not always be loved unconditionally just for being female but you can at least talk about your issues without being silenced or called a misandrist.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:49 PM
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Ok, I should have said that maybe not everything in the OP is automatic for women but you're still systematically advanatged as a woman: Men are required to serve in the military whereas women are not Violence, SA and Sexual Harrassment towards men isn't taken seriously at all and male victims often get little to no resources and often get silenced for speaking out Women are straight up allowed to hit men Nonconsensual circumcision is legal everywhere yet FGM is banned in most countries in the w…
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:23 PM
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How about the female abusers take accountability instead?
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:19 PM
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Because it's easier?
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:16 PM
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Because many men, including myself, would much rather be excluded from being forced into the millitary and have the expectation of being provided for and kept safe than have the right to vote.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 08:13 PM
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Plenty of women decide to get their genitals cut as adults, yet nonconsensual FGM is still illegal in most countries in the world so this is a terrible argument.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 03:22 PM
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No one is being ignorant here, I'm not saying there aren't any disadavantages of being female or that women can't experience any hardships but that many of us would much rather deal with those issues than with what men have to deal with. I can almost guararntee you'd be FAR worse off if you were male in your situation.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 03:19 PM
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The thing is I'd much rather deal with those issues and I'm not ignoring them, and also I don't care about being taken seriously in leadership roles as I never wanted those roles anyway. And the thing is men DO get harrassed and stalked, so what the feminists are saying is just a blatant lie.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 03:15 PM
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Of course I would give almost anything to be born female instead of having to suffer. The fact that some feminists attack us for saying that is honestly pretty excruciating. Especially when they say things like "but if you were born female you wouldn't be taken as seriously in leadership roles" whilst completelly ignoring anything men go through. Gosh how I would love to have women's problems instead of this.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 03:12 PM
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Except no, Feminist women refusing to expand it to women too are also keeping the current system.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 03:09 PM
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I think this varies by location a lot. Where I live I still reguralry notice being treated better than my non-white peers.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 02:39 PM
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Ok, I'm not trying to deny your epereince but I think this might vary by location a lot. Where I live I still notice I get treated a lot better than my non-white peers.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 02:38 PM
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By being exempt from being forced into the military (which is something feminists today still don't want to change) and other societal responsibilities.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 02:34 PM
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The main issue with this is that white people usually still benefit today because of their race, so what the left says about that is something I support, However, men are the ones who are mostly disadvantaged in most countries in the world and have also historically suffered from many disadvantages so these two are NOT comparable.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 11:05 PM
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You're the only one here who is conflating women and feminists. It's actually extremely sexist when you portray all women as having to be feminists.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:57 PM
1

Yep, Feminists only care about these issues when they affect women.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:54 PM
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Working with feminist men is also pretty bad.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:51 PM
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I think the main issue is that the feminist society doesn't recognise the fact that many women are in fact physically strong and many men are phyically weak yet women are still allowed to hit men. I was assaulted by a woman some time ago and I still haven't fully recovered from it. The main reason why men are seen as more violent is because society actually cares about men commiting violence towards women unlike with women commiting violence against men, not because women aren't actually violent…
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:39 PM
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I'm NOT saying that we should not teach these, I'm honestly not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, I'm saying we should also teach the bad deeds of women and how they were often adavanatged (e.g. with the no ight to vote but also exempt from being drafted) and show the complete picture instead of cherry picked aspects that merely satisfy a narrative.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:32 PM
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That person is just a feminist who is scared of women and girls losing a part of their privilige by the mere concept of teaching actual facts in educational institutions.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:29 PM
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There is plenty of reading material on history if you just Google it, and nothing of what you said disproves what I meant? I want to teach actual history, not ideologies based on lies like feminism. If you think teaching accurate history and looking at the entire picture without cherry-picking certain aspects to fit a narrative is going to "disempower" anyone then I don't know what to tell you.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:27 PM
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I posted one link already in an another comment in here but here is an another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1szcrji/comment/oj11wk0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button And that is just a few examples. I have had a lot more people tell that to me.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:23 PM
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Seriously? That's like saying we shouldn't teach about Europeans colonising because it might make everyone of European descent (which would often be the majority here in Europe) feel "disadvantaged". There is no valid reason to teach outright lies.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:18 PM
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What am I supposed to link to? I'm talking about teaching true non-revisionist history and actual facts, such as that women were often exempt from many responsibilities that only men had to do, and I want to ban teaching outright lies such as "Men as men can never be oppressed".
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:15 PM
1

I'm sorry but did they actually self-identify as feminists or are you just asuming that they were feminists?
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:11 PM
1

I had several people say that to me.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 10:06 PM
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It would "disadvanatage" women and girls in that they would no longer have the revisionist history that is being legitimised throught the education system as a tool to oppress men and boys. The fact that you actively support teaching lies is insane. The fact that feminists would do literally anything to maintain power shows just how much we need to fight against them.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 09:41 PM
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Yep, Pretty much no matter what men are expected to serve and sacrifice for women who will then often call us useless and their opressors. And the fact that we get attacked so often if we ever say that we would much rather be born female to avoid all of that shit is adding an extra layer of pain onto it.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:55 PM
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Yes, Exactly! According to feminists women are strong and independent whenever that suits them and weak and frail whenever that suits them.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:42 PM
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Just shows how insanely priviliged women are in society.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:40 PM
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That's only because the feminists want to exclude men from these roles.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:36 PM
0

Were they from feminists though?
/r/MensRights11/05/26 06:35 PM
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If the feminists truly cared about abolishing gender roles they would want to cancel both Mother's Day and Father's Day, yet obviously no feminist would ever agree to that.
/r/MensRights10/05/26 11:17 PM
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Feminists are literally the ones who perpetuate the lie that men can't get r*ped, So no, it's not the "manosphere" that is legitimising SA.
/r/MensRights10/05/26 11:06 PM
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And? I think it's pretty obvious that my life would be much better if I were born female. Making a sarcastic reply to that is just proving my original point.
/r/MensRights10/05/26 10:49 PM
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Then why are there so many feminists denying that female on male violence is real?
/r/MensRights10/05/26 10:44 PM
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So you believe that someone has to have a specifric education in order to be a feminist? Also I couldn't find the other examples right now so this is just one I had in an argument with a feminist, but there are plenty of others claiming that. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1t3st86/comment/ok6p0bh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/MensRights09/05/26 09:38 PM
1

At some point when you have a large group of feminists online saying this it shows that it is clearly ubiquitous among feminists in general.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 09:20 PM
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Yes, Exactly! If feminism was truly about equality they would be actually listening and would care about what men go through and try to solve these issues. Meanwhile what happens is that no feminist wants to expand conscription to women or hold women accountable for anything. They would rather focus their effort on denying male victims support and justice than to solve either mens' or womens' issues. So of course that feminism is just a hate movement.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 09:08 PM
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Most beauty standards for both men and women are mostly pushed by feminist women, I have been told for pretty much my entire life how I'm supposed to look by women. So it seems more like those standards are rooted in womens' sexual preferenes rather than anything else.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 08:58 PM
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Of course I'm concerned with it. I mean I pretty much had to learn to live with it (as I think most men had to) but it's still extremely paainful when I wake up every day knowng that I'm seen as a 3rd class citizen and few people care about my safety or wellbeing.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 08:52 PM
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It's sad that this place still gets invaded by feminists quite often who come here to attack us and tell male victims that it's impossible for women to commit violence or SA towards men, but either way I'm still glad this place exists as there is barely anything else out there.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 08:45 PM
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In my experience it depends on the situation and context, Men are more liekly to be taken seriously in leadership roles or anywhere where men are expected to be the default, whereas women are taken more seriously in female dominated fields, as full time parents and caretakers and anywhere women are expected to be the default.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 08:42 PM
2

Yes, Exactly! There are plenty of women who do actually oppose feminism and they shoould not be excluded from the conversation.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 09:52 PM
2

Replacing them with feminist men is not going to do much good either though.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 09:48 PM
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I was talking specifically about mainstream ideologies, and in most countries in the world today it seems to mainly boil down to the global left alligned and global right alligned, which is what I was equating the "progressive" and "conservative" in my post to.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 09:12 PM
1

But they always either downplay, or usually ignore and deny that there are specific male peroblems such as male only conscription (like I already talked about in the OP), women being allowed to SA and commit violence towards men, circumcision and any of the other male-specific issues that we face.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 09:09 PM
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Also, If feminists truly wanted to end those standards they could always advocate to make it legally required that dress codes must be the same for both men and women, yet they haven't done so in most countries in the world.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 11:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure the OP meant that men do not owe anything to women just because of their sex, which is what every feminist woman expects of men. And also you oppose expanding military conscription to women based on complete lies, so no shit that you get very little respect from MRAs.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 10:49 PM
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Historically women have had a lot more indirect power, arguably in some cases even more than men, and women today have far more rights than men in most countries in the world (and even in the ones where they don't, they have hundreds of international organsiations that advocate for them, which isn't the case for men) so women attacking men is, in fact, punching down and being abusive.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 10:33 PM
1

I wanted to ask, since I mainly see you talk about how supposedly it's only lesbian women who hate men and that striaght women are not actually feminists, Do you actually believe that not one female feminist is straight and that it's impossible to hate men if you're attracted to them? Genuienly asking.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:47 AM
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I recently made a post about this and it does seem that some women are genuienly unaware of how they're prviliged and believe the worst thing that can happen is not being taken seriously in leadership roles. There is a massive amount of propaganda in the media and school system in most countries in the world about how women supposedly have it harder and anything that men go through gets silenced. Most of these women probably wouldn't last two minutes being a man. And gosh how much would I love t…
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:43 AM
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All feminists are like that. They want to be strong and independent whenever that suits them and weak and frail whenever that suits them. It's equality only when it's convenient.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:39 AM
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Honestly I don't believe that mandatory national service is a good thing overal but I think that getting women to do it could at least in part help with the deradicalisation of young women that is definitelly needed.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:33 AM
2

Both men and women are doing that.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:23 AM
1

Honestly I think a lot of men in the US voted for Trump because they saw him as being less feminist than Harris.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 03:20 AM
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Because most powerful men ARE feminists, so they aren't going to speak out against that. And you have access to far more protection than men, including shelters and support and the entire society sees as you as needing protection. You have the right to hit the opposite sex and they do not have the right to fight back. Also could you please leave us alone? There are subs like r/FeMRADebates where you can debeate your your hateful point of view with others but coming here and flexing your privilig…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 06:53 PM
1

Seriously? The issue is that most of these women DO actually want those priviliges as can be evident from the fact that no feminist or liberal wants to expand the draft to women or wants to remove the right to hit men from women. I would personally give almost anything to get the "conservative" treatment that women get. So we have to talk about it in this way. And come on You're well established on here so you should know this stuff. Also the source you provided is only about American women even…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 06:48 PM
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Like I already said in the OP, I agree with that, but I think it's an important distincrtion that misogyny isn't really systemic and there aren't constant efforts to silence women speaking out about their issues.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 06:39 PM
3

Not to mention the elephant in the room, which is the fact that feminists want women to be seen as goddeses and then they wonder why the medical communtiy is so reluctant to run studies with godeses as subjects.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 06:37 PM
1

Could you please at least leave us alone? You're an absolutelly terrible person who is incapable of showing even the most basic empathy towards others and you are insanely priviliged because of your sex. And I told you why am I oppressed because I'm a man and you still have the nerve to tell me that I have it good? You're never going to experience what it's like being a man and not have any protections whatsoever. And maybe most men don't talk about being oppressed because they would get immidia…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 06:26 PM
1

Honestly the fact that they think a male-only draft is an example of misogyny then every single feminist is a misogynist since no feminist wants to expand the draft to women.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 04:30 AM
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Not the most important thing but seriously where was this that dress codes are somehow more sexist to girls/women? Where I live it's pretty much the other way around. Boys/Men not being allowed to wear dresses and skirts and having a limit on how long their hair can be is usually much more standard.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 04:22 AM
8

Please be more mindful of this on here since there are so many feminist trolls and agitators who come on here so it can sometimes be hard to tell.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 04:05 AM
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I'm sorry but men still objectively get more silenced than women when speaking out about our issues and misandry everywhere is rampant whereas there is very little misogyny in most mainstream discourse.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 04:00 AM
2

I never said that there aren't any adantages to being male, I said that I never wanted any of those. And Men are NOT more powerful than women. Women are literally more likely to vote for anti-male politicians in most countries. How is feminism preventing you from looking how you want? What would be the consequences if you looked how you wanted? Violating seixst dress codes that require men to have their hair cut to a "reasonable lenght" or list losing you job etc. This is a weird take. Women are…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 03:58 AM
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In feminist countries women don't have to do any hard labour and men in those countries also aren't allowed to wear what they want. And like I already said in the OP, women in those countries have hundreds of international organisations advocating for them whereas men get silenced usually by those same organisations and systemic feminism when we try to advocate for ourselves or talk about our SA and surviving violence so that's why we have to compare it. And again like I already said in my OP th…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 03:38 AM
3

First of all please read my other comment. And second of all no, women are much more likely to vote for feminist politicians so absolving them of any repsonsibility is just stupid.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 03:08 AM
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Are you fucking serious? Even if you were less likely to be SAd the fact that most men have no way of obtaining justice and get told all the time that they can't be victims of SA or violence makes it much worse. And less societal pressure about your appearance? I couold never look the way I wanted to and had to always do what the feminist society demanded. I could never have the hair lenght I wanted because of sexist dress codes. And being perceived as strong? I'm physically weak and the fact th…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 03:05 AM
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These meters only care about how many entitlements women get in each country.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 02:52 AM
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Yes, being drafted, being beaten because of your sex and having a part of your genitals cut off is supposedly having it good according to you.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 02:49 AM
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Because women are insanely priviliged because of their sex. Women don't get drafted except in a small handful of countries in the world, women don't get told they can't be r*ped or SAd because of their sex, women have actual protection from genital mutilation, women don't have to do any hard labour and don't get silenced for speaking out about their issues. That's just a small handful of the priviliges women take for absolute granted.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 02:47 AM
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That depends on each individual country.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 01:08 AM
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Not necessarily, I wanted to have a genuiene conversation about how many feminist women actually believe that they are oppressed since I can see that plenty of them grew up and live in complete bubbles where they don't have to suffer from most cases of serious discrimination based on sex.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 01:01 AM
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Honestly considering that those things are basically the tip of the iceberg of what men have to go through shows just how insanely women are priviliged in society that when they lose even as much as what you described they are completely shocked.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 12:09 AM
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I know from experience that it's usually not taken seriously at all.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 12:03 AM
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I wish people would just stop posting stupid comments here instead of actually attacking the argument.
/r/MensRights05/05/26 11:55 PM
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Again, You made it clear that most women wouldn't swap if it meant being drafted (since absoluelly zero feminists support expanding conscription to women) and like I said I'd muh rather deal with the disadavantages of being a woman (that exist where I live) compared to the ones men face. I never wanted to be in leadership roles anyway so not being taken as seriously there would not bother me. And the idea that the grass is always greener seems a bit disingenuous applied here, since, like you pre…
/r/MensRights04/05/26 06:50 PM
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I think you might have an overly-idealistic view of being a man, and I'm not saying that there aren;t absolutelly any disadvantages of being a woman but rather that I would do almost anything to have those problems instead of what I have to face while being a man. Let's be honest, you wouldn't trade in any of the advantages I listed above, especially the exemption from millitary conscription (assuming you're not a citizen of one of the very few countries where women are drafted too) and the fact…
/r/MensRights03/05/26 08:39 PM
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I agree with you OP, and also what makes these claims so stupid is that they're calling marriage oppressive and "only beneficial to men" yet if you go look at many feminist spaces you'll find plenty of women there saying things like "Why can't I find a man who will marry me?", "Why do so many men no longer want marriage", "I hate that I'm still not married" and the like. They basically just want more victimhood points about something they actually want that way themselves. That's all there is to…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 08:10 PM
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I think that just the fact that men objectively face more systemic injustices means that misogyny (which i fully denounce as I do any kind of hate) is much more liekly to come from a place of resentment due to the oppression caused by systemic feminism compared to misandry, which is systemic and perpetuated everywhere.
/r/MensRights02/05/26 08:01 PM
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Used to be a leftist and now I'm strictly an independent thinker. And looking at both the left and the right wing there is honestly WAY more misandry in left wing circles. The left is the one denying that men can be victims of assault and that there are systemic injustives that men face. They call men priviliged and mock us for standing up for our rights. Now There is still plenty of misandry in right wing circles but it's usually nowhere near as bad as on the left and one main aspect of this is…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 07:54 PM
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The problem with this type of thinking is that as long as women don't have to be drafted there will be very little incentive to change this. Especially in Europe where you'll have the tired "But Russia" type of reasoning as to why there "has" to be conscription still.
/r/MensRights02/05/26 07:43 PM
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I know I'm not the OP but I want to say Thank you for saying this! I personally have been attacked by feminists multiple times for saying that I would give alnost anything to be born female, so seeing support from women is amazing!
/r/MensRights30/04/26 11:16 PM
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Copying this from an another reply to a comment that talked about the same thing: Doesn't work for many aspects of life though. In many countries in the world you would still be considered elligible to be forced into the military or restricted from getting certain goverment support or help from certain organisations, not to mention that being trans is straight up unsafe in many countries that are otherwise relatively safe for cis women. Also it won't undo the damage done by circumcision (if you …
/r/MensRights30/04/26 11:14 PM
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I know I'm not the OP but for me personally (and I think a lot of people): -Being exempt from being drafted -Would have all the protection from violence and the opposite sex wouldn't be straight up allowed to hit me (I'm relatively physically weak so if I was female I would benefit from the entire "don't hit women' societal structure) and would be seen as needing protection -Would have access to more support, violence shelters and woudn't have to deal with being told that I can't be a victim of …
/r/MensRights30/04/26 11:12 PM
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Yes, me too! No amount of money can get you the experience you get both growing up as a girl and living your adult life as a woman.
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:53 PM
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I get how you feel. I think about that almost all the time and genuienly hate the fact that I wasn't born female. Also the fact that I got attacked by feminists many times merely for saying so is an extra layer of pain on top of that.
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:52 PM
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Doesn't work for many aspects of life though. In many countries in the world you would still be considered elligible to be forced into the military or restricted from getting certain goverment support or help from certain organisations, not to mention that being trans is straight up unsafe in many countries that are otherwise relatively safe for cis women. Also it won't undo the damage done by circumcision (if you were a victim of that) and won't let you experience childhood as a girl. Also tran…
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:50 PM
2

Then why are feminists fighting so hard against conscription laws being made gender neutral around the world?
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:36 PM
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Yeah, honestly women are so inherrently priviliged that the fact so many of them have the nerve to play the victim is tiring.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 05:55 PM
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I also wasn't allowed to wear a skirt or a dress to school and that was less than 30 years ago.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 05:07 PM
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Like I said in the OP, I was referring to the definiton you'd get if you searched for "What does the global left stand for" which would not be support for Communsim.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 06:52 PM
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I was talking about the global left, I never mentioned any specific country.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 06:48 PM
2

The "pick me girl" phrase is now predominatelly used just as an insult for all anti-feminist women.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 06:45 PM
2

I agree with you to an extent, however, some of these people are truly racist or hold actually problematic views that are not compatible with the Men's Rights Ideology, so we do have to remove some of those in my opinion.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 06:43 PM
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Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights27/04/26 06:36 PM
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The problem I have with this line of thinking is that plenty of words have changed defintions over time, so even if the definition of feminism in some 1963 dictionary is "Men and women helping each other" that doesn't outweight the fact that pretty much anyone identifying as a feminist today is an abuse apologist and a man hater.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 04:15 AM
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Old school feminism is what we should strive for. Men and women would actually help each other instead of demonize each other. That would be Men's Rights Ideology then and not feminism.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 03:56 AM
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This! I saw a lot of people recently downplaying the effects the current educations system in countries like the UK has on the prolification of feminism that is currently happening.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 03:54 AM
1

What do you think about Zarina Macha (with her the rational female podcast)? I personally think she is actually sincere from how she talks about many things even if I don't agree with all of her views.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 03:45 AM
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Because we live under a feminist regime that doesn't see men as human.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 03:40 AM
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I'm copying this from an another comment as I'm not typing the entire things out again: Men are required to serve in the military whereas women are not Violence, SA and Sexual Harrassment towards men isn't taken seriously at all and male victims often get little to no resources and often get silenced for speaking out Women are straight up allowed to hit men Nonconsensual circumcision is legal everywhere yet FGM is banned in most countries in the worrld There are often programs to get more women …
/r/MensRights27/04/26 03:36 AM
1

Oh, ok. I just wanted to make that clear that my post was about how people use that term and the double standrads that are applied based on sex when it is used to refer to individuals.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:58 PM
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Honestly I would say that many of them are very well aware of that, and honestly I would much rather deal with the feminists who admit that they're the priviliged sex and that they want female supremacy and they understand why so many men would rather be born female rather than the ones who act the same and demand the same things as those feminists but complain about systemic oppression and how they're supposedly disadavantaged and attack any man who says he would rather be born female to avoid …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:51 PM
1

I would never call myself that and I do not promoe the word, my pont was that the people who refer to certain individuals as incels apply an obvious double standard on how they talk about men as compared to women.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:39 PM
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I don't like the word and perhaps I shouldn't have used it in the post, but I was referring to the people who do use that term and the double standard that gets employed when looking at women who are portrayed as that compared to men.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:38 PM
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I just wanted to add the context since I realise most people reading this comment chain probably haven't seen the other conversation I had with her where she openly admitted that she will support having her future sons circumcised.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:32 PM
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That's the thing, I haven't really seen any of the true established regulars on here claim that. it's virtually always acounts that don't participate in good faith on here who argue that.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:27 PM
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Becuase she is NOT an ally. She told me in an another conversation a few days ago that she will support circumcising her future sons. People like her still want control over men. They are NOT real allies. Our only real female allies are women who openly oppose feminism.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:22 PM
1

Because feminists still want to have control over their sons. The person I was replying to told me in an anotther conversation a few days ago that her husband is Jewish and that she will support him if he wants to circumcise their future sons. ALL feminists are like this. Please do not fall for the trap of the "good" feminists who supposedly support us. They never actually do.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 07:19 PM
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And I'm saying that's a stupid way of thinking. We could actually eccomplish at least some level of equality if we both advocated for each other. I do not have a vulva or a uterus but I can be against FGM and for abortion rights because the principle of bodily autonomy applies to everyone and we can all advocate for it. You just want to cut your future sons' penises because you want control. If we are to truly move forward we need to throw feminism into the rubbish bin as it will never actually …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 09:12 PM
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There are definitelly more teen girls than just yourself who care, and also as a MRA myself I staunchly oppose shaming anyone for their body and how they look. We can support both at the same time.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 08:58 PM
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I'm talking about the way that men who can't find a woman who meets their standards get portarayed compared to women who can't find a partner who meets their standards. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word incel but it does get used to refer to people who do that.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 08:51 PM
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"but women are too weak to fight / they need to make kids" That is literally a feminist talking point. Are you sure you're not just reading comments from some of the trolls who come to this sub frequently? And I think that the overwhelming majoirty of MRAs know what they want. We want equal rights, same protections from SA and abuse, a ban on nonconsensual circumcision, Either women get drafted or no one gets drafted, we want women to lose the right to hit men and no more advanataged hiring for …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 08:45 PM
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Even if it were not the official definition, it's what was considered to be the definition for some time until it got reduced to just an insult, so that's what I was talking about.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 08:28 PM
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You said that women should not advocate for a ban on circumcision, which honestly is pretty much the same as saying that you oppose a ban.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 08:02 PM
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Yet you don't actually believe in advocating for one another and you believe that baby boys should be circumcised? That's just making excuses for shitty behaviour.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:52 PM
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Women literally vote for feminist politicians who then oppress men. Women are NOT systematically oppressed and just because you don't have every single one of your whims come true doesn't mean that you suffer because of your sex.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:48 PM
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Because there are plenty of organisations fighting against FGM whereas MGM is usually often celebarted and virtually NO feminist supports a ban on MGM because they want women to have the choice to be able to mutilate their sons, so it's not even remotely comparable.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:43 PM
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Are you serious? Yes, men ARE an oppressed minority and we are oppressed by women. Women vote for anti-male politicians and we suffer as a result. Just because YOU haven't actually faced anything yourself doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. And here are just a few examples that happen in a large number of countries: Men are required to serve in the military whereas women are not Violence, SA and Sexual Harrassment towards men isn't taken seriously at all and male victims often get little to no …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:41 PM
1

Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights23/04/26 06:48 PM
1

Yeah, I'm not American but from the polls I have seen the support for aboortion rights is very similar amongst both men and women in the US, so it's not a "men are oppressing women" issue. And the main group of people opposing abortion rights are the pro-life feminists, some of whom are men obviously, but again it's not anywhere close to being all men opposing abortion rights and all women supporting it.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 06:47 PM
1

Well what I was saying is that I rarely see much pushback on here personally.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 06:41 PM
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I don't know how frequently do you browse through here but I personally see a lot of them and I have been personally attacked by feminists in this sub.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 07:26 PM
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Let me just say something, You absoluterlly DO have the right to express your true feelings and to not beat yourself up because you were not able to handle a difficult life situation. Remember that men are systematically oppressed and if you were female you would be showered with support if you were in the same position. And I'm saying this as someone who does not have parents who care. Remeber that we have systemic feminism going against us and that we absolutelly deserve more support and shoul…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 07:24 PM
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I'm sorry if my wording wasn't clear enough but what I was saying is that from my experience a lot of these do not actually get a verbal beatdown and when I personally tried to give a verbal beatdown to one of them it led me to a 3 day ban like I already stated in my comment.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 07:04 PM
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You're definitelly not making me uncomfortable, And I also oppose feminism in part because it either ignores or sometimes straight up justifies violence against men. And I can personally relate to the feeling empathy for victims part as even though I have been assaulted and abused by a woman I still feel empathy towards female victims and I want to hold ALL abusers accountable and wish everyone who was abused would get justice, and I certainly don't blame all women for it. Which also shows just …
/r/MensRights21/04/26 06:59 PM
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No offense, But I have personally encountered plenty of feminists on here telling me that men can't be victims of violence and plenty of other disgusting stuff. I even got a 3 day ban (Reddit-wide, not from the mods here) recently after talking back to one of the abuse apologists even though they were the ones excusing violence. So Yes, it definitely happens all the time.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:21 AM
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There are several people with that name that come up when searching for that on Tiktok. Do you mind posting the actual link?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:18 AM
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I apologise for the late reply, but looking at their Youtube channel they don't seem very active anymore. Are they now more active on an another platform or am I missing something?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:17 AM
1

Ok, Thanks
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:15 AM
1

Could you link me to some of these?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:12 AM
1

Could you give me a link? Also Is that country-specific?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:12 AM
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Thanks for the support. I have personally enountered plenty of trolls and feminist abuse apolosists on here telling me that it's impossible for men to be SAd and plenty of other horrible things. And when I said feminists in my post I was not talking about women such as yourself, since I know that you oppose feminism but rather about the actual abuse apologists coming here and harrassing male victims of abuse. I welcome women who support Men's Rights in here of course.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:11 AM
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Do you know of any in particular?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:03 AM
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Oh, I agree with that, What I was referring to in my original post was about the campaigns that are happening where I live that completely diesregard any of the tasks that feminists expect only men to do and also with the unreasonable expectations that some people have of men in a relationship like what I talked about in my last reply.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:00 AM
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I get that but what about on other platforms aside from Reddit? Is there really nothing?
/r/MensRights20/04/26 07:36 PM
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I'm sorry but where do you get women doing more unpaid labour than men from? I haven't seen any actual data on thisa other than women themselves self-identifiying this. And the fact that every feminist opposes a draft for women is excatly what I talked about above and why the draft for men will never actually be abolished under feminism, which is why it will always be an anti-male movement and why I will always be 100% anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 07:03 PM
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So You're not going to address any of the issues that I talked about such as military draft, nonconsensual circumcision or what male victims have to go through? And the fact that feminists oppose women being drafted, oppose a ban on nonconsensual circumcision because they want women to have the choice to mutiliate their sons and all of the feminists excusing female abusers and protesting against support for male victims or access to shelters does make feminism a fundamentally anti-male movement.…
/r/MensRights20/04/26 06:48 PM
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That account is an abuse apologist troll. Just so you know..
/r/MensRights19/04/26 10:22 PM
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It's possible and I wish that there would be more nuance added to these.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 10:21 PM
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Misandry is literally used to excuse violence against men. You're the only one who keeps excusing all the abuse. And the consequences of misandry are EXTREMELY worse than those of misogyny. Men get forced to fight in wars they do not want to be a part of because of misandry, men suffer ferom a lot more genital cutting because of misandry, men get far less social support in most countries in the world despite usually being in worse socio-economical situations and the fact that men talking about t…
/r/MensRights19/04/26 09:11 PM
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I agree with your point, but please do not say that it's women when it's only the feminists (plenty of whom are male) and not all women who do that. There are still plenty of great women who oppose feminism.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 09:01 PM
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Seriously the lenghts some people will go to in order to be able to excuse female abusers is insane.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 08:59 PM
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Ok, I understand that some tasks may not be as frequently performed as others, but, first of all, I was talking about how the tasks that mainly men are expected to do are rarely ever counted and second of all, I still think that the more physically difficult tasks should be compensated a bit more relative to the not as physically difficult ones. So in a screnario where there are only occasional more physical tasks that only one partner does I personally believe these should still be compensated …
/r/MensRights19/04/26 08:48 PM
1

Except how many MRAs advocate for violence against women? For female genital cutting? practically none, Whereas the overwhelming majority of feminists do excuse violence towards men.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 07:40 PM
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Well this is exactly my point, I do not have a utrus but I do believe women should have a right to choose and would actually advocate for that. Tne fact that you oppose an actual ban and claim that "the dad should chose" is so foolishly hypocritical of you that I don't even know what to say. How would you like it if mother were allowed to choose whether to cut their daughters? You're just an another hypocrite who hates men, I wish you would stay off places like this.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 07:39 PM
2

I get that, but most feminists still treat non-white men worse than white men.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 07:26 PM
1

I wouldn't either, my point was just that he still manages to call out some of the feminist hypocrisy that's the only reason I even mentioned him.
/r/MensRights18/04/26 07:29 PM
1

Ok, but that was one of my main points, that if you're going to have a movement for equality and don't consider that both men and women come in all shapes and sizes and with varying degrees of physical capabilities then you're missing one of the most important factors to it in my view. And I'm sorry that you experienced SA and never received any form of justice for it, again I'm not trying to excuse abuse against women and grils in any way but I was talking about the systemic disadvantages that …
/r/MensRights18/04/26 07:26 PM
1

I'm a white European man and I'm sorry for what you have been through. I can definitely relate to all the stuff we have to deal with for being male, However I still understand that I would have it much worse if I were a racial minority and I try to do my best to fight against racism any chance I get. Ironically it has been the feminists who have taught me to pay more attention to racsim and white supremacy with them arrogantly denying that female privilige is real it made me realise how I'm stil…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 07:03 PM
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For #1 I think you're completely ignoring jsut how much r*pe and SA against men is underreported because men are usually too scared to come out and say that they were SAd by a woman. And even if murders and kidnappings were more likrly to happen to women (If you had an actual data on this you could post I would appriciate that as I haven't seen much about this myself) Male victims of r*pe and SA often get no support and can themselves face legal consequences for reporting their abusers, which is…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 06:53 PM
1

I think many of us would and I personally find it very tiring that we get attacked merely for saying so.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:37 PM
1

lmao Are you serious? So you're implying that none of the people who spread those ideas are either true feminists or women? Also why the frick would I make that up to "feel better about myself" lol I wish that you were actually right and that was indeed what feminism wanted as then society would be in a much better position. Also I do agree with you that it would be better if kids could be taught those things regardless of gender and for me personally, I did want to learn many of these tasks and…
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:34 PM
1

The issue is that most feminists don't even want to acknowledge that physically weak men exist and are seriously vulnurable to female abuse even without being drugged or coercion. And I would argue that the main reason that you don't hear about many cases involving this is because most of us are too scraed to report it when we've been victims. I also haven't reported me being physically assaulted (whilst I still haven't completely healed from that) by a woman after refusing her advances because …
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:10 PM
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Yes, exactly. I always try my best to speak oiut against any case of anyone defending or excusing men abusing women and it definitely needs to be made clear that any sort of abuse apologia does NOT belong in the Men's Rights Movement.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:05 PM
5

Yes, This exactly! Thank you so much for pointing this out.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 09:03 PM
5

Yes, I realise I should have mentioned that in my post as well, but you're absolutely right that this is also one of the examples on how feminism also hurts women and girls.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 04:16 AM
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I said feminists in my post. Please don't conflate the words feminist and women.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 04:14 AM
1

Yes, as this is indeed what most feminist women demand of men, usually under the guise of "men have oppressed us for milenia and therefore we deserve to be freed from our roles whereas men should still do theirs as a form of compensation" type of thinking.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 04:12 AM
1

I understand that and that was a response to the above person who talked about how the OP generalised women and I just mentioned how many women do that too. Either way I agree that it's definitelly not all women and that OP was also generalising women which he should not have been doing and I should've been more clear on calling that out.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 04:09 AM
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Yes, that's precisely what I was talking about.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:29 PM
1

Feminist women do, not all women are feminists.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:27 PM
1

Ok fair enough, I do agree that we shouldn't generalise all women and that the OP should have said specifically feminist women and that not all women are feminists.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:26 PM
2

Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:24 PM
10

Then why are there so many self-proclaimed feminists who do claim what I talked about above?
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:22 PM
8

What about the one in Rome IT which I have seen reports of feminist organisations attacking it?
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:22 PM
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There are plenty of examples if you use a search engine but a recent one is Spain's equality minister proclaiming that men can;t be victims. Many other European politicians have also made similar statements. Also I have been personally told that I can't be a victim because I'm male and that I must always be able to defend myself in an altrication or during SA because I'm stronger even though I'm relatively physically weak and couldn't fight off most people if attacked and so far there was litera…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:21 PM
2

lol plemty of women reguralry generalise all men and complain about them in feminist forums.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 03:42 AM
2

Yes, OP should definitely mention that it's predominatelly feminist women who do these things, and not all women are feminists
/r/MensRights16/04/26 03:40 AM
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I think that's a part of it. I have seen feminists claim things such as "If I were born male I would be able to defend myself in an altrication" ompletely ignoring how many men aren't physically fit enough to be able to sucessfully defend themselves in most altrications (myself included) and honestly having to listen to that is extremely tiring when they are the ones who get all of the protection and you don't.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 03:35 AM
2

The issue is that many male victims could straight up face legal reprecussions for reporting a female abuser depending on the jurisdiction, so simply painting that as a solution while ignoring the reality of how male victims are often treated misses the point.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 03:30 AM
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I mean, it was pretty obvious to me ever since I was a little kid and started gaining the basic societal awareness. Even when I was very little I could see things such as only girls being allowed to wear skirts and dresses, being allowed to grow their hair long, and the toys that I wanted to play with being "only for girls" which I realised later in life was because men are the class that is primarily meant to do the heavy lifting and things such as caring roles are usually reserved for women, T…
/r/MensRights15/04/26 06:48 PM
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Then why have I haerd so many feminists make excuses about why women are "too vulnurable" to be drafted whereas men are not? Why are there so many organisations and feminist politicians across Europe who procliam that men can't be r*ped or be victims of violence? Why do so many feminists keep coming here and telling male victims that there is no way they could have actually suffered from violence becuase, according to them, every single woman is 1000 times weaker than every male so it's apparent…
/r/MensRights15/04/26 06:26 PM
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Personally I rarely see this happening wehere I live and over here there is so much pressure put at men to do the traditional female tasks while there is pretty much no expectation for women to do the traditional female tasks. Either way I do not agree with only one gender getting to do only their traditional tasks and expecting the other to do both. It should be balanced and everyone should be appriciated for what they contribute.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 06:17 PM
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/r/MensRights10/04/26 04:52 PM
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Absolutely! Thank you for what you do.
/r/MensRights10/04/26 04:46 PM
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Oh I agree it's definitely NOT most posts on here, I was just putting it out there that some people do infact do that shit and it needs to be called out.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 09:00 PM
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Gosh, women have it so easy with having access to all the female dominated fields AND they still demand access to all the male dominated feilds when the feminist women don't want men in the female dominated ones and they also don't want us doing things like being full time caretakers. The idea that society is somehow misogynistic should be considered so laughable that no serious individual would even entertain it.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:56 PM
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Feminists are obviously all a bunch of pathetic excuses for human beings, but body shaming in any form is NOT ok and does NOT belong in the men's rights ideology even as a response to feminists. This needs to be said more often.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:47 PM
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Ok i know I said that I will stop replying but this is just so stupid I have to say something until all of you femishits finally leave this sub. First if all, in many coutnries ALL men have to serve in the millitary based on their sex so it only "being a possibility" is such a stupid argument and just because you don't know anyone from these countries who suffered from it doesn't mean shit. Also the physical labour IS a gender kissue when if someone is lucky enough to be born female they NEVER E…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:43 PM
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I'm happy for you and for the fact that you'll be having a girl and thus someone who sill not face systemmic and institutionalised discrimination bacuse of their sex. As for any other advice, I do not have a family so I don't know much that I could share with you but I would say don't forget to take care of yourself and remeber that your own well being matters! Best of luck to you.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:14 PM
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Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:05 PM
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Because those things happen to men too and we get denied justice and silenced when we try to talk about it. Clearly you're not here to talk in good faith so I will not be replying to you anymore. also it's kind of ironic talking about echo chambers when almost every feminist space would ban you if you disagreed with them on literally anything.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 08:04 PM
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Again, you refuse to address any of my points because you're the one who lives in an echo chamber. Women are absolutely NOT oppressed because of their sex and NOT put into inferior positions. They are exmept from being drafted, don't get their genitals cut and have a lot more protection from violence. Could you please at least leave us alone if you want to keep denying the facts? Men are absolutely put into inferior positions compared to women. Again, you're not focusing on the facts but rather …
/r/MensRights09/04/26 07:43 PM
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Also, if they consider men better suited for those physical tasks and therefore believe they must do them, then it follows that women are obviously suited for childbirth and must do that?? They want all of the percieved advantages of being male and all of the advantagess of being female and have minimum responsibilities and barely anything ever asked of them. I thought feminists felt they were underrepresented in male jobs They only care about white collar (and sometimes gold collar) male domina…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 07:38 PM
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Like I already stated in my orignial post, that doesn't include all the unpaid tasks like repairs or any physically demanding stuff that women are not expected to do. My point is, if there are tasks that only men have to do then counting all of that labour as 1 to 1 to something like cooking and cleaning isn't fair as these tasks are typically more dangerous and physically demanding, which is always excluded from the conversation.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 07:13 PM
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For both but mainly because I'm a man. Women have far more rights than men in most countries in the world. Women are exempt from military service, have their genitals protected and get actual protections from violence. Denying that men's issiues are real just shows how stupid you are because you can't address the actual points. Also why don't you feminists think that women are oppressed because of their sex and not just capitalism? Why do women have to go into male dominated fields instead of st…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 07:06 PM
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To be honest I have seen a few people label all women as being the same (although I still think that many of these are just trolls) but I personally always try to call that out.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 06:59 PM
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They usually vote for politicians who promise women free stuff for being female. You listing r*pe and SA as a "women's issue" IS denying male victims and excusing female sex offenders. Also just by being a feminist you subscribe to an ideology that wants to exclude male victims from getting justice,opposes making r*pe laws gender neutral and protests against male violence shelters. And the laws around violence may be gender neutral in many countries but that doesn't mean that male victims get an…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 06:55 PM
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I personally think this is more connected to the fact that men's safety and well being is basically an afterthought in society. The fact that male victims who have been physically hurt by women rarely ever see any justice shows that this isn't about excluding women from accountability because they're weak but about men's well being not actually mattering in society.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 06:44 PM
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Ok, then how would you buld a case that doesn't just have them default to "oh but women can't physically do these tasks so that doesn't matter and women just deserve to not have to do their tasks"? genuienly interested.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:29 PM
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I agree that there is an issue with racism in this sub but it also just shows how few spaces men have left as most of the decent ones were banned because they criticised feminism.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:21 PM
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I might have misunderstood that so I apologise for that, but my point about that data not considering that women do not have to do certain tasks still stands.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:13 PM
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lmao all the feminist spaces will silence anyone who questions them. I can't believe you're this stupid. And women have the megaphone all the media (whether left or right) talks about women's issues almost 24/7, women have thousands of organisations working to support them. Men have no such things and we get silenced when we try to advocate for ourselves, so yes, women are not disadvantaged when feminism controls all of mainstream narrative and when there are laws against "misogyny" in many coun…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:10 PM
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Women in Iran still don't get forced into the millitary and they have thoudsands of international organisations working for them, which is far more than what men have.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:06 PM
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I think you're missing the point, you're just talking about hours doing chores, I;m talking about there being tasks and chores that only men are expected to do and that is often not factored in. Only counting hours without focusing on how difficult the specific task is misses an important factor in how much each individual truly contributes.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:01 PM
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The main reason why there isn't more willingness for that is because all the feminists claim that "women are not suited for these tasks" and "women are not physically fit enough for that" and "oh but women get period pain so it's unfair to expect them to do these tasks" and similar claims so until feminism is defeated things will continue to be like this.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:57 PM
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I mean, Women still compete a lot with each other, most of them will band together whenever they're defending the feminist systems that maintain their status in society (much like white supremacists would) but they still usually compete with each other when it comes to personal status and societal standing. With that being said, I think men could band together more and especially with how many gen Z men are fed up I think it's not implausible that we could form groups and become more organised.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:50 PM
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Even in the countries where women do face injustices there are thousands of well funded international organisations that support them. Men have no such thing and we get silenced for speaking out for ourselves, so no, women do not have the right to play the victim.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:45 PM
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Because women DO have all the rights and are playing victims all the time. Do you really have nothing better to do than to invade the very few spaces where people still live in reality?
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:43 PM
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Women have thousands of international organisations working for their issues whereas men have almost none, and just like you said the fact that women can say the most vile things about men where if it was a man saying those things he would likely be straight up arrested. There is absolutely no valid reason why women should be allowed to have the "opressed" label when they are the ones with all of the advantages in society and receive all the support.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:36 PM
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I think the issue a lot of people have here is that those same people are usually pro nonconsensual circumcision and pro male only draft so it's the hypocrisy that's the problem. Also I think talking about things like toys and dresses misses the point that the reason why boys and men are often not allowed to or discouraged from these things is because they'e seen as the protectors and providers who must take care of the weak and frail women and girls. Ignoring that fundamental reason behind that…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:25 AM
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Yes, This exactly!
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:05 AM
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I think you can truly tell when someone has barely any actual problems in their life when they're complaining about something like this.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:50 AM
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I think many people would. Which is also why virtually no feminist woman would ever take providing for a man and having him do all the housework. They know very well which is the priviliged position to be in.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:48 AM
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Yeah, plenty of feminists make that excuse about pregnancy (not just for this but for every single female privilge there is) and that they automatically "deserve it" even though pregnancy is something you don't have to go through if you don't want to (at least everywhere where abortion is legal which is most of Europe and plenty of US states) yet women who never get pregnant are still entitiled to those priviliges and the princess treatment so the hypocrisy of that claim is unreal.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:46 AM
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My issue is that for me personally at least, whenever I talk about any of my issues I get told that they can't be real because there's no way a man could ever face any of that. And while it's both genders that have said that to me it was a lot more women telling me that female on male violence isn't real and things like that. And I also think that as many people sharing their different life experiences as possible would be for the best so I personally don't think it's a female thing, it's just t…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:38 AM
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I'm not talking about the ones that are currently the most practiced, i'm talking about procedures that would specifically reduce those risks which would still be illegal and are not reguralry practiced on little girls even if they would provide said benefits.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:24 AM
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You could argue that removing certain parts of a girl's vulva would reduce the risk of infections and other diseases and thus have medical benefit, yet any form of underage female genital cutting is strictly illegal in most countries in the world and there are well funded organisations fighting against it. So try again.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:34 PM
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Yeah, having to listen to that is indeed tiring. I would give almost anything to have the traditional women's roles placed onto me instead of what men have to deal with. The fact that so many people perpetuate the idea that women somehow have it worse in places like Europe is extremely exhausting.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:21 PM
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There are definitely far more women like you, it's just that (at least from my personal experience) many of them don't actually speak out and keep silent. I definitely value you speaking out and wish more women would do the same.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:19 PM
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Neither is the work that men are expected to do in a household. My point was that both are typically socially viewed as undervalued, and that includes the unpaid tasks that only men are expected to do.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:16 PM
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I'm not from the UK but I get how you feel. It's also extremely tiring that so many women have the nerve to whine when most of them have never faced any actual injustice because of their sex and they cry because in their view they still haven't gotten enough free stuff for being female. I don't know if there is any way out of this. From what I can see about the UK as an outsider looking in, it only looks like things are getting worse. We definitely so need to support each other as much as possib…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:12 PM
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I apologise for the late reply but I had things to do. Also I'm sorry but I don't know what do you mean by being an "ND cunt" if that's some sort of a cultural or a regional thing I don't understand please tell me. I personally don't think it's a male or a female thing but I just had so many women deny that male issues are real when talking to them to the point that I can see why some men would not want to talk to them as much. I obviously understand it's not all women but I can see why some men…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:00 PM
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Also the fact hat women are much more likely to vote for feminist politicians and also based on getting free stuff based on their sex, which usually isn't the case for men.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 08:48 PM
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Women vote for the male politicians, and I did give you examples. It's just you denying that men can be r*ped because you're a pathretic abuse apologist. And women are literally allowed to assault men, The fact that you bring this up as an example of misogyny shows that you lived in a priviliged bubble your entire life and didn't have to deal with actual discrimination based on your sex.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 08:20 PM
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The Men's Rights Ideology is about equality for all. The reason it's calleed that is because it was originally started by men, NOT because it's only fpr men, only by men or only about men. We understand that equality for men also can't be achieved without changing norms that also affect women and I believe that we need as many perspectives and especially as many people sharing their life experiences as possible in order to achieve any progress. Women are absolutely welcome and encouraged to talk…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 08:43 PM
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Americans stick to the stigma that men cannot be abused I'm sorry but where did I say anything about Amerrica? I'm not American and most of these things have happened to me. to not be seen as weak Then why is it that I have been told so many times by self-proclaimed feminists that men can't be weak or that men can't be r*ped? Also I have been attacked multiple times by feminists for saying that I would give almost anything to be born female and I got told things like "So you'd rather be physical…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:47 AM
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I did, the exception from being drafted in most countries in the world, protection from genital mutilation in most countries in the world, Diversity and Inclusion programs usually only requiring access for women into male spaces but not the other way around, usually a lot more access to violence shelters whereas men often have very limited access to them or none at all, actual protrction from violence (even if laws might be gender neutral, they're almost never enforced that way and male victims …
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:29 AM
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At least those openly admit they don't want equality rather than the ones who gaslight people with the whole "feminism is about equality" lie.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:58 PM
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This is so especially stupid considering how many ftm people are there who would conclude the exact same thing as Nora Vincent.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:42 PM
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Yeah, And the fact that I still see so many men get attacked for saying they would give anything to be born female so they don't have to suffer from all of the systemic misandry adds so much to the pain.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:34 PM
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Also most female on male violence is unreported so it's not even as big of a difference as all the feminists make it out to be.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:31 PM
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More like women get the rights and men get the responsibilities.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:26 PM
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I get that, but it's still so extremely tiring. Also unfortunately r/MensVenting and r/menslives have barely any activity and this sub gets invaded by r*pe apologist feminists all the time. It sucks that r/antifeminism got banned and it just shows how much we are silenced whereas the feminists can spread their vile hatred everywhere they like.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:23 PM
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There are plenty of studies to back up that violence towards men is severely underreported. You can use a search engine. I think the only one who lives in a bubble is you.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 07:48 PM
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I know I'm not the OP, but from my experience women (if they're feminists) talking about their issues is almost always going to be dismissing men's issues, especially with things such as violence and SA where feminists claim that men can't get r*ped and they want women to keep the right to be able to hit men. Also the fact that pretty much EVERY feminist is going to deny that female on male violence is highly underreported which is just an anoher stab to the chest after being a victim of violenc…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 01:14 AM
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Yes, This exactly!
/r/MensRights03/04/26 01:05 AM
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Just imagine if the genders were reversed. Do you seriously think the reactions would be even remotely close to what they were here?
/r/MensRights03/04/26 01:04 AM
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Most violent crimes commited by women are vastly underreported so that is not a good point to be making in regards to that.
/r/MensRights03/04/26 01:02 AM
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Yeah, it truly shows just HOW insanely priviliged women are in society. The fact that so many of them have the nerve to play victims is just outrageous.
/r/MensRights02/04/26 11:36 PM
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Yes Exactly! For my personal exteprience it was 80% highly educated women who have been telling me I shouldn't have long hair because I'm male pretty much for the entirity of my growing up. It is predominately women enforcing these standards on both other women and men.
/r/MensRights02/04/26 11:07 PM
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And they also want the right to hit and SA Men and then deny male victims justice and then use the false statistics that don't mention male victims against us.
/r/MensRights02/04/26 11:02 PM
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Yes, that's what I meant, NOT that male on female violence isn't an issue, but that only one side gets considered in the debate.
/r/MensRights02/04/26 10:53 PM
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Yes, this exactly!
/r/MensRights30/03/26 08:31 PM
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Then why not actually abandon it and replace it with a different ideology that would actually fit what you believe in?
/r/MensRights29/03/26 07:03 PM
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Wouldn't you at least agree that just the fact that Men speaking up for themselves and sharing our life experiences means that we get silenced DOES automatically make everytthing harder for us?
/r/MensRights29/03/26 07:01 PM
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Thank you for at least admitting that assuming everyone on here will know what country's administration you're talking about was a mistake. However, have you ever seen an MRA saying hurrendous things such as "women enjoy being r*ped" or anything close to that? Because anyone who would come even close to that line of thinking would simply no longer be considered a real MRA as we do NOT tolerate that kind of behaviour. The fact that there are so many self-identified feminists who do excuse abuse s…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 06:57 PM
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No, it is absolutely not. Feminism is an ideology. Men are a gender. The equivalent of feminists saying "all men" would be actual misogynists saying "all women" which is NOT something I said and if you re-read my Post you can see I even tried to explain it in complete detail that Women and feminism should NOT be conflated with each other.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 05:25 PM
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The Men's Rights Movement is for equality for everyone, can also alternatively be called Humansim or Equalism so there is no need to support feminism if you just want equal rights for everyone.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 05:20 PM
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Then why is it mostly feminists excusing abuse? i have been told predominately by feminists that Men can't be r*ped or that any abuse towards men is because we "deserve it" so subscribing to feminist ideas IS supporting all of that. Also who is "our current administration"? This is a global forum and it's likely that the majority of people in this sub don't have voting rights in whichever country you're from.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 05:18 PM
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That's absolutely not true. Could you please not spread that bullshit here?
/r/MensRights27/03/26 06:57 PM
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I know how that feels and yes, it is a horrible experience and it sucks that those who hold all the priviliges and power (so mostly white females) are still fighting to get even more of it despite having comparatively few issues to deal with.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 06:53 PM
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May I ask where do you live that you have men trying to use your locker rooms? Where I am it's mostly the opposite. There are calls for Men's rooms and toilets to be gender-neutral whereas women and girls can keep their own spaces.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 05:34 PM
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I didn't bookmark any of these posts so I can't link them but it's just something that I have noticed so I wanted to make a post about it. And most of these were people talking about how it's only white men who are under attack and not men as a whole, and similar type of rhetoric. Some of these posts and comments might have been deleted now but I still wanted to raise awereness about it.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 05:31 PM
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lol Me being a bot or a shell account after posting on here for almost a year and most of my posts being almost universally accepted? No I was just making a point to some of the rhetoric I have seen from SOME people on here. That is all.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 05:27 PM
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I was literally talking about separating that from the entire "white men" as a whole categorisation when you can talk about white prvililge (which is NOT hating on white people but talking about actual adavntages that white people receive) AND female privilige. the fact that the term "white women" is rarely ever used to mention privilige IS part of the problem.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 05:25 PM
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Yes, I find it extremely tiring too, and especially the attacks when we try to advocate for ourselves and challange this type of rhetoric. Also the fact that I have been attacked so many times by feminists for saying that I would give almost anything to be born female so I don't have to deal with shit like this is also extremely painful. Must be nice being so priviliged that you can control the narrative and silence anyone who demands their basic human rights that you only want to keep for yours…
/r/MensRights23/03/26 08:09 PM
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Could you show me any examples of women being hated in Men's Rights spaces? And if it's me who doesn't know anything about feminism then why have I been told multiple times by self-identified feminists that I can't be r*ped or SAd because I'm a man? That there are absolutely no injustices that men face? And why was I attacked almost every time I tried to advocate for myself or say that I would give almost anything to be born female so I don't have to deal with any of this if feminism is supposed…
/r/MensRights23/03/26 08:00 PM
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I agree with your point about hating women, but as per your profile you are still a feminist and thus support the view that men can't be r*ped or SAd which is why you're a part of the problem. EVERY feminist denies that women can be abusers. also NO feminist is willing to admit that male victims under-report abuse and literally every single one of you always comes up with the false "85% of abusers are men" statistic which is just an another insult to the injury. So as long as you are going to be…
/r/MensRights22/03/26 07:04 PM
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What about the education system? I mean it's clearly not a good idea to be teaching feminism in schools and in my opinion it should just be banned and I think it still plays a significant role since plenty of young people hold a certain level of trust towards their teachers so I definitely think it has a significant effect on that outcome as well.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 10:23 PM
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I understand that and value your contribution as is, but NOT taking any action is just going to continue the current state of things which is inevitebly going to hurt society overal (which includes girls and women) so I still believe that something has to happen if we don't want things to get completely insane.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 10:15 PM
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I'm very well aware that there are issues women face and I would still take these over what men have to deal with, and most of what you've descrobed are things men face too, so yes I would still give almost anything to be a woman and not have to deal with those things. You clearly don't realise all of what men face on a daily basis.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 10:06 PM
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More like what women are going through is abolutley NOTHING compared to what men are going through. I would give almost anything to be born female and never have to worry about actual suffering. You wouldn't last 2 minutes being a man.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 09:29 PM
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Men faced plenty of other disadavantages and were often forced to fight in wars and had to bear responsibility that women didn't. You could also get ChatGPT to summarise all of those but I'm sure you don't want an objective look at the realities of history that don't fit your very limited worldview.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 09:13 PM
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When were men taking spaces from women?
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:51 PM
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I agree with you on that and I was mainly thinking about spaces for male victims where you won't get told that being SAd is your fault or that you "deserved it" or something disgusting like that, but also things like female toilets being women only whereas women are allowed into male toilets in many countries is also a problem and is also part of the entire "only women need protection" femnists agenda so it is relevant.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:50 PM
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Yes absolutely! And I don't mean to be pushy or sound ungrateful for what you already do, but have you considered trying to organise any form of action where you live? As female MRAs often get silenced so you speaking out would be helpful to the cause even if it's just a small event in you area.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 08:41 PM
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Honestly that's one thing that I keep seeing is all these polls showing support for feminism in many countries in the world decreasing yet around 95% of socail media and 99% of legacy media is pro-feminist. it genuienly seems like there are far more people who agree with us but it's difficult to get together and try to organise in any meaningful way.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 02:04 PM
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I think it's definitely BOTH genders' fault. Women could have not demanded access to those spaces and men could have simply said no, let's be objective about everything and always look at all of the underlying factors.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 01:59 PM
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Exactly! Women and girls are allowed their spaces (and feminists often claim that these are under attack which is just laughable in my opinion) yet men and boys are not, I was also talking about how even this sub has to get invaded by feminists and abuse apologists and there are pretty much no other online spaces for male victims where you won't get told that you can't be abused or that it's all your fault.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 01:55 PM
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You're NOT invading this space if you're a feamle MRA, What I meant with people invading this sub in particular was the femnists denying our issues and excusing female abuse. Female MRAs are fully welcome here.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 01:52 PM
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Unfortunatelly it seems as not much is happening as feminism has all the power in society. I wish we could actually organise as there is definitely a lot of people who would be willing to do some actual IRL action but it's extremely difficult to get enough people onboard.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 12:02 AM
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I understand that, I was talking about how we still can't even have an online space for ourselves without all of the bullshit so we can at least talk about our experiences without constantly being invaded.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:48 PM
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I agree with you, unfortunatelly Reddit doesn't consider sexism towards Men to be an actual issue, so they are not ever going to get kicked out of Reddit for saying that, not even for being r*pe and abuse apologists.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:31 PM
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Thanks for the reply.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:16 PM
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Could you please give me some examples of which politicians are talking about it and from which countries?
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:02 PM
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No, because most of these standards are set by feminists. Feminists want women to be allowed to hit and SA men, feminists want men to be the responsible ones and oppose things such as gender neutral conscription, and reguralry advocate for women to not go to prisons such as with the current pressure in the UK, so No it is the feminists advocating for these things, so it can't be because of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 10:54 PM
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We do NOT have mroe access to jobs, Many fields such as childcare or other female-dominant fields either do not hire Men or Men are highly disadvantaged when applying for thosse positions. and no, there is NO patriarchy Women are literally adavantaged in so many spects of society that it disproves that idea. Also in most countries in the world idenitifying as non-binary would still mean you could be drafted so that isn't a solution, but if you beliece that you would be better off being a Man why…
/r/MensRights19/03/26 10:49 PM
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Because the fact that Men face more disadvanatges in society simply disproves the idea of a patriarchy? what part of that don't you understand?
/r/MensRights19/03/26 10:40 PM
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Men still have to deal with far more resistance and they have far fewer support systems.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 08:19 PM
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I'd rather not disclose the exact place but I'm from Europe. And there are so many reasons why I hate myself, from all of the things I talked about earlier (no violence protection, millitary draft, usually no access to violence shelters, housing discrimination and plenty of other systemic injustices) to everything I experienced since I was a kid. I am physically weak and despite that I still don't get anywhere near the protection that women and girs get, From my school years where girls were all…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 07:27 AM
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No one ever said anything about the rich men and women who are currently in power, I was talking about the majority of Men. And it'a just a fact that politicians, despite being mostly male in many countries, usually attempt to appeal to women voters to a significant extent and your anecdotal expereinces of women holding that opinion doesn't reflect every single woman worldwide. Also there are countries with female prime ministers or other major political figures and ones where at least some part…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 04:03 PM
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I still think this varies greatly by region, Where I live it is objectively much worse for Boys and Men, and while I do agree that some problems that get painted as only affecting one gender affects both in reality, I still see female victims get much more international recognition than male victims and We also usually get silenced for demanding equal rights, so that alone for me makes it much worse. So I'm not trying to deny that maybe you would be happier in your culture if you were a boy, but…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:52 AM
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I would definitely want the laws to just be equal and consider everyone's rights but the current situation where I live is heavily biased against me so i would still rather be female and NOT have to deal with that, That doesn't mean I don't ultimately want laws to change. And for me I have ALWAYS had someone in my business about so many different things and I got pushed so many things onto me because I was a boy my ENTIRE life. and I have had Women try to get in my pants as well except whenever …
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:39 AM
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Like I said, I understand that and want to fight femnism, I was just expressing how it feels to lose the birth lottery on something that is pretty much 50/50 and half the population gets.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:27 AM
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Ok, I understand your point of view and that's why I said that this might vary by region or other factors in my Post. Because where I live the laws are extremely biased against Men and Boys and there is this cultural aspect that sees only Women and Girls as being vulnurable and needing protection and Men and Boys are pushed to always be stoic and leaders and not to show any emotion so from my experiences I would give almost anything to have been born female, assuming it would be in the same plac…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:20 AM
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They hold the majority in "congress" and the presidency today in the US r/USdefaultism Also, Women in most countries in the world are allowed to vote, so even if the Men in power in the countris where they do, in fact, hold the majority of political positions wanted to change conscription laws they're not going to because they would lose Women voters and get attacked by Women's organisations. I hate how people pretend that is not the reality.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:09 AM
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The patriarchy doesn't exist in my opinion. R*pe culture is real, but it also affaects Boys and Men There is very little evidence of this, Especially considering that Women face very little accountability for their actions in most countries in the world and are the ones who are allowed to hit and SA Men and Boys There are some disadavanteges that Women and Girls face and it vaires by region, but Overal I would say that there is far more Male Oppression than Female Oppression. There are a few thi…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 01:53 AM
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Like I said I understand that I could have been born into worse conditions, My point is that it just feels like such a faithful thing to not get the better gender birtth when it's pretty much a 50/50 chance and half of the population was born that gender.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 01:38 AM
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I agree that we should be figthing against feminism and that would be the actual solution, it's just that it still feels painful not having won the gender lottery and not being born on to the winning side.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 01:33 AM
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I don't feel like I should have a female body so I don't believe so, And Even if I was, feminists still hate trans people and many of them straight up advocate for murdering them. So my point still stands that I would be million times better off if I was just born female and NOT have to sufer from all of the disadavantages that Men have.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 01:30 AM
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I'm looking at the objective facts. I do realise that there are some things that Women face but I would much rather deal with those. I assume you're female (I apologise if that is not correct in which case please disregard the next part) Would you really rather deal with possibly having to be forced into the millitary(Assuming you're not a citizen of one of the few countries that also draft Women)? Would you rather get beaten by the opposite sex without them seeing any reprecusssions? Would you …
/r/MensRights16/03/26 01:24 AM
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I tried to post this some time ago but it got removed for some reson trying again now: These are just some of the things Men experience in many parts of the world, You should be able to find a more detailed breakdown from some of the links others have posted but here the most prime examples: -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same protection from violence than women in most countries in the world, Men can SA'd, r*ped and beat…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:43 AM
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Thank you for finally saying this! Yes, there is so much uncontrolled msiandry outside it's just absolutely laughable that someone would claim it's only online or that it only hurts feelings. Women can commit violence and SA towards Men, Practically no protection from violence for Men or Boys, and to me honestly every time I see women outside wearing dresses or skirts and being happy it just always feels like an additional knife to the chest. Also I was a victm of an assault some time ago which …
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:25 AM
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Yes! Exactly!
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:16 AM
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I mostly agree with your views but I think it's important to mention that there are PLENTY of male feminists who are working against us too. They should absolutely not be underestimated and you can see that by their actions such as voting against making conscription gender-neutral in Switzerland and plenty of other actions.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:05 AM
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Exactly! And the fact that we get called "sexists" and "misogynists" for demanding equal rights is the most excruciating part about it. Thank you for calling it out.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:00 AM
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While I don't agree with all of her views, Zarina Macha has done some IRL activity in London not a long time ago, Yes it is a drop in the ocean compared to what needs to be done, but I can still value the effort she puts in, Especially advocating for Male victims. And I'm sure there are others, it's just that it's hard to organise any IRL action when finding like-minded people is so hard today.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 11:47 PM
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I think that would depend on the country/region and what you want out of life, A Man who would want to work in childcare or raise children, would demand justice for being assaulted or SAd by women, was circumcised without consent and had to serve in the millitary in a country where women don't have to would probably face more sexism than a woman who worked in a female-dominant field, didn't suufer from violence or SA, was protected from genital cutting and didn't mind doing feminine things. You …
/r/MensRights12/03/26 10:56 PM
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no feminist organisation directly fights for men to receive less and be treated like such - it is merely a fight for women to secure more, Except there are plenty of feminist organisations in many countries who have opposed sheletrs, support and even hotlines for male victims. and very unfortunately society can only spare so much to support victims, And this is also exactly my point, They fight for only women to be able to have support and that female victims are more important than male victims…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 10:41 PM
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They abviously do experience discrimination in blue-collar jobs but when have you ever seen a feminist organisation or a group fight against that? If anything they proclaim things such as "women aren't suited for these jobs" or "Women are too weak and frail to be workking these jobs" which I, as an MRA obviously condone, so That was my main point. And Men face everything that SAHMs do AND all the sexism on top of that, whether it's being seen as suspicious that you're out with your child as a Ma…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 10:34 PM
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Yes, That is exactly what I said in my post. That subreddit was banned and that is the pont I was making, that spaces like these get banned so a lot of the rhetoric that counters feminism is silenced.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 10:02 PM
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More like you won't find them in ANY feminist circles since plenty of IRL feminist organisations advocate against support for male victims.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 09:55 PM
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Copied from your other post in case you won't see that one: I honestly don't know, Feminism curently holds all the power over most countries in the world and the UN and everyone (including women) who speaks out against it gets silenced. I know how that is like. I have been beaten in School and overal growing up too and I was a victim of an assault some time ago and I stll have injuries from that and I haven't reported it because of the risk that I'll be charged with "misogyny" for reporting the …
/r/MensRights12/03/26 09:53 PM
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I honestly don't know, Feminism curently holds all the power over most countries in the world and the UN and everyone (including women) who speaks out against it gets silenced. I know how that is like. I have been beaten in School and overal growing up too and I was a victim of an assault some time ago and I stll have injuries from that and I haven't reported it because of the risk that I'll be charged with "misogyny" for reporting the female perpetrator. And Yeah the denialism is the worst part…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 09:50 PM
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While some of it might be gender roles, it's also that Women also have access to many roles such as in Childcare where Men are often barred from working in them or at least face serious discrminiation. Women in most countries also have more support systems and are therefore less likely to need to work dirty and dangerous jobs and Women also don't face discrimination and jusgement for being full-time Mums. so it's not only societal pressure from gender norms.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 09:13 PM
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Except whenever there are posts online that excuse r*ping women all the feminists use that as proof of misogyny and demand acrion aginst "hate speech online" but when thee same happens to Men it's just "exaggerated opinion for clicks" If you can't see the blatant hyporcisy in that then I don't know what to tell you.🤦🏻‍♂️ Also I just gave these two subreddits as an example, There are PLENTY of other online spaces with similar views, such as the feminism subreddit, TwoX (I assume you know what sub…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 09:07 PM
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Except feminist women already demand all of that from Men (often under the guise of "Women have been opressed for Millenia and so they deserve all those things and Men must adhere to their roles to compensate Women" type rhetoric) At least the anti-feminists don't try to paint Men as privilleged and don't excuse Men being assaulted or SAd.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 08:56 PM
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I agree with some of your points, but my movement (i.e.the Men's Rigths Movement) IS indeed for both gendres and considers female issues too, While feminists are the ones who claim that Men can't be SAd or r*ped, they oppse a ban on nonconsensual circumcision and oppose Men having access to violence shelters whereas MRAs support things such as Abortion rights and would never excuse inappropriate behaviour towards Women. Women are also welcome to discuss their issues from within the Men's Rights …
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:44 AM
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Exactly! I think that especially the Mental Helth impact from having to constantly listen to how your issues aren't real is still pretty underdisscussed. There is a massive difference between having your issues taken seriously and be dismissed and told that you can't be a victim of violence.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:26 AM
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Don't a lot of polls from places such as the UK and Spain show that the support for feminism amongst Women is decreasing. You can question the accuracy of these but I still think that there are a lot more female anti-feminists than it may seem at first, especially since feminists really want to perpetuate the idea that 99% of women are feminists so they will try to silence any Woman who speaks out against them. Also, Even if it was a relatively small number, it's still stupid and sexist to say i…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:21 AM
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Most REPORTED cases. Female victims don't have a system going against them where thay have to fear for being arrested or at least sent to something like "misogyny training" for saying they have been victims.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:11 AM
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I hate that shit so much. Men are NOT always stronger than women. I have been a victim of female violence and I still haven't recovered from the injuries and I have to listen to shit like that ALL the time. It's so tiring and excruciating. Also, There are NO online safe spaces for male victims (other than ones with barely any activity in them) All of the mainstream spaces for victims will just tell you that it's impossible for you to be a victim of violence because you're male or tell you that y…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:09 AM
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You can't be serious with that. I have been told so many times that I can't be SAd because I am a Man, or that there is no way that a woman could be stronger than me despite being a victim of an assualt where I still haven't fully recovered from the injuries, And just a few hours ago I was told that Men don't need violence shelters and all of that was almost ALWAYS by self-identified feminists. If you go to practically ANY feminist space (like r/askfeminists or r/RadicalFeminism) You can see tha…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:01 AM
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Thank you so much for saying this! I really appriciate you speaking out. Also Men's Rights Ideology is about equality for everyone and supports addressing everyone's struggles, If you believe in that then you are already a Men's Rights Activist.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 03:51 AM
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Geniuenly asking - When did Andrew Tate ever label himself an MRA? I wasn't aware he ever supported the ideology.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 05:52 AM
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All of them. However especially the ones who tell Men that they can't get r*ped or SAd or that Men being victims of abuse desn't matter. These are the absolute worst.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 05:49 AM
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That sucks, I wish someone would be willing to help start a new website (or a list on an existing platforms) and curate content (Especially content other than movies since most of the exissting effort has focused on that and not on other types such as TV Shows or Novels) Would be really helpful, especially for Men's Mental Health in my opinion.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 05:42 AM
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Yes, Exactly! And then we have to listen to how "women are the biggest victims of harassment online" and similar claims when it's mostly male victims of violence being attacked by the feminists. It's honestly so dehumanising.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 05:09 AM
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I wish we could get some folks to curate a list of content that is feminism free, I tried inquiring about that in various pro-male spaces but no one seemed interseted in actually participating.
/r/MensRights09/03/26 03:22 AM
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Yes, exactly! You don't have to look deep to see how insanely privilleged women are in society. It's extremely tiring having to deal with this every day and especially with all the inaction with any opposition to feminism.
/r/MensRights09/03/26 03:17 AM
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Plenty of feminist ideology in modern shows, I don't remember any particular shows except for the Kaleidoscope Netflix show which Contains content about how only women supposedly experience Sexual Harrasment and insiniuates that violence towards Men is okay, and I'm sure that I have seen a few more TV Shows with similar content just don't remember it as I tend to forget about it afterwards.
/r/MensRights09/03/26 03:13 AM
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I genuienly stopped consuming content with feminist ideology in it. It's especially painful if you're a victim of female abuse and there is propaganda included such as "Men don't have to worry about r*pe" or "Only women ever get bothered and harrassed" and it's just excruciating. Unfortunatelly, Around 95% of modern TV Shows has feminist ideology in it nowadays. I even inquired on this subreddit and in other pro-male spaces about creating a list of feminism free content except no one was interes…
/r/MensRights09/03/26 03:07 AM
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I'm a white European but I absolutely realise that I'm still privilliged for being white and European and that I would have it much worse if I was black or another non-white race. The Men's Rights Movement absolutely needs to be against white supremacy and talk about racism too and most of us definitelly don't support any policies that would hurt black people and we definitelly welcome black voices in the movement.
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:58 PM
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Thank you for calling out the r*pe apologia, and I do absolutely agree with you on the actual equality, except that there are so many self-idenitified feminists who DO spew the kind of rhetoric that I talked about in my previous comment, so supporting them is still subscribing to these ideas when you could always call yourself an equalist (which is what I haerd someone call themselves because they also experienced the things I talked about) or any other term that would portray the support for eq…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 01:38 AM
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The nerve that feminists have to call out r*pe apologia towards women when they themselves spout r*pe apologia towards Men. I have been told by femishits that "Men can't get r*ped" That it's okay to beat men and plenty of other disgusting shit like that. Of course all they want is censorship and them being the ones who can excuse r*pists and abusers. And feminism is systemic and exists on UN level whereas all of the disgusting shit that they listed comes from a few misogynists online hiding in t…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 10:30 PM
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Excpet that's not always true, Physically weak men exist and I'm tired of being told that we don't or that we don't matter and can be beaten by women with impunity. If you truly care about Men's Rights you should acknowledge that.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 01:42 AM
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I have seen men haters obviously, except from what I've seen they 99% of times claim that men are 1000 times stronger than women and that's why women will always be disadavantaged and that's why men are the opressors and things like that. I'm not saying the people that you describe don't exist but that's what my experience has been.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 01:38 AM
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Those same people would be anywhere else claiming that women are just as strong as men in every way. Personally, I have never seen anyone who claims this excuse female violence in any way.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 01:13 AM
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I agree with your base points (except I believe that feminism should be dismantled completely insrtead of being told to do better as there isn't any real valid reson for it to exist) and I do try my best to call out hypocrisy. However the feminists, like you said, are obviously much worse and they keep invading this sub and the few spaces we have left to tell us that our issues aren't real whereas they ban EVERYTHING that doesn't fit their bullshit narrative.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:25 AM
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lol if the draft is so imaginary then why are you so against women being included? and men are currently being actively drafted in a large number of countries so no it is not a non-issue.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:16 AM
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Are you really that stupid? You just said that women can't do hard labour jobs, so I was talking about women being paid less OVERAL, if women actually worked in these positions I do agree they shouldn't be paid less based on their gender.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:12 AM
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That's just anecdotal evidence and not based on anything concrete unlike the sudies that show male victims being much less liekly to talk about being abused by women.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:07 AM
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If your claim is that women are just biologically different from men then why is it such a big deal if they are treated differently or paid less than Men? How exactly is that hating women?
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:05 AM
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I still personally think that women not being taken seriously in politics is mostly because women face barely any accountabillity and in most countries in the world are also exempt from ever being drafted into the millitary, so I think it's understandable to NOT want women in politics.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:04 AM
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I just told you most of that is underreported, it's not going to show up in any statistics.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:02 AM
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I was literally told by a feminist a few minutes ago that women can't work in physically demanding jobs because they're too weak and their hormonal cycles make them unfit for it I was also told by self-identified feminists that Men can't be r*ped by women and that women hitting men can't ever cause any damage even though I have been a victim of female violence where I still haven't recovered from the damage. There are troves of posts in feminist spaces talking about that exact same thing and den…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 12:00 AM
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Women also say they don't want men to be full-time caretakers or work in fields like childcare.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:50 PM
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Most abuse done by women is underreported and there is plenty of data to back it up.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:48 PM
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So where does this feminist trope come from? Do they just dig up the most toxic men and then present them as the norm? Probably, this is pretty typical behaviour from the feminists.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:45 PM
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Well that is because it IS internalised misogyny. Things such as crying are seen as "feminine" and therefore a man should avoid doing it BECAUSE it is a "girly thing to do". In society, men should be "strong" and "tough" whereas women should be "weak" and "obedient",these are all stereotypes. Then why is it mostly feminists perpetuating those stereotypes and why going to most feminists spaces you will see this being one of the most common talking points e.g. "women are weak and frail and need to…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:43 PM
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I'm not from the US but I can see that many people over there do support female politicians, However I can also understand NOT wanting to elect female politicians as women face so many exceptions from acocuntability, and especially being exempt from being drafted. Which also brings up the issue of women being treated as inferior which I believe is mainly caused by said lack of responsibillity. Feminists demand that women get treated like toddlers in most spects of society and then will complain …
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:39 PM
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I have seen the opposite, Men get almost no repect in positions such as childcare from women if they even manage to secure these positions as they are often excluded from them.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:31 PM
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I understand that I'm not who you were replying to but we definitely need to set straight the definition of feminism and women and that these two terms have two completely different meanings.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:26 PM
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First of all, Yes, ALL feminists are bad, just because a few call themselves "equity feminist" or whatever doesn't dismiss the fact that they still subscribe to an ideology that tells men they can't be r*ped and that their isues aren't real. And I personally have always acknowledged that not all women are feminists and I have been acticvelyy calling out people who do make the claim that all women are feminists. And Yes, I do realise that there are flaws within our movement and we should absolute…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:24 PM
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I think it depends, Yes I have personally seen feminists using that to try to push their nerrative about only men ever being abusers and that only women and girls can ever be victims but on the flips side I believe that a relatively high number of people is also going to stop trusting the mainstream media and institutions (can already see that happening in many online spaces) which I believe will subsequently weaken the feminist messege at least to some extent.
/r/MensRights25/02/26 02:24 AM
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Maybe beacuse female abusers are much more likely to get ignored due to the feminist idea that women can't ever abuse boys or be peadophiles, unless you take that into account you're never going to get the full picture.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 01:24 AM
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For Employment, even if Men were more likely to get emploeys, it is often employment in physically demanding and dangerous jobs, whereas women have the privillige to work in childcare and many other industries which usually won't hire men. The fact that women are alloiwed to hit and SA men is also another topic you won't want to talk about and which that data won't reflect. Female babies also don't face genittal mutilation in most countries in the world which your data also doesn't show. There i…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 01:11 AM
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Now You're the one who is refusing to answer my question, Can't you just go back to the feminist subreddits instead of having to invade the few spaces MRAs still have?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 10:11 PM
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I agree with your point except I believe that being anti-feminist is a good thing and should be celebrated. Feminists are a bunch of racist abuse apologist and cis-female supremacy defending bigots. If you want to be pro-equality being anti-feminist is necessary.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:52 PM
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That's because women don't have to answer why they want to be CEOs, managers, political figures etc. They just demand so and anyone who would dare to criticise them gets labeled as a "sexist" and "misogynist", so why should I have to explain anything? You feminists are honestly the biggest hypocrites out there.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:45 PM
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Think of me what you will but I think that maybe with things like the releasse of the Epstein files there will be more people getting mad at the elites and perhaps feminism would start to lose popularity at least somewhat if more people point their anger at the people on the absolute top instead of men and male victims of abuse.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:42 PM
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As a man, Could I just ask? I regularly see plenty of women speak out against feminism online but there is almost never any action IRL. Have you or anyone you know considered taking any action where you live? I personally believe that a lot more could be achieved if more people (Men or women) actually did some activism where they live, simply talking about it online isn't going to accomplish that much even if it may be the first step.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:46 PM
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I apologise for the late reply, but if you are truly against sexism then understanding that using that word can lead to substantial harm is essential in my opinion. The fact that feminists claim that Men can't be r*ped and deny that female violence can cause real damage should be enough to classify feminists as ab*se deniers and aplogists, which should be completeky denounced if you truly care about being against sexism in my opinion.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:33 PM
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Maybe because saying "X% of women experience SA" without any further context is like saying that "X% of white people are murdered every year". That type of framing is designed to intentionally ignore a certain group of people for the puropse of denying them equal rights for justice. that's what is problematic about that.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 08:25 PM
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Feminsts want that for women. Not all women are feminists.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 08:20 PM
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I realise that you asked for a right-wing perspective but since I would pretty much consider myself to be an ex-leftists and now consider myself a stricly inspendent thinker I want to answer because I think I can relate to some of your points. Also note I am not specifying where I live for personal reasons and most points are made from an international perspective. First of all I do beliveve in economical equality (and that the current economical system is destructive for society overal) am anti…
/r/MensRights07/02/26 08:11 PM
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1/3 women are victims in of SA A huge number of SA commited by women remains unreported, so using these statistic is Ignoring that fact.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:38 PM
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Women are valued FAR more and appriciated for everything they do. Even if men are slightly valued they are still victims of much more misandry than anything women ever face.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:36 PM
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That's excatly what feminism wants to accomplish. Completely absolving women of any responsibillity whatsoever, even if it harms female victims
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:33 PM
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I wasn't listening to anyone specifically just from what I've seen online and was just asking, So Thanks for the breakdown.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:23 PM
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Could you DM me with details please?
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:21 PM
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The true anti-feminists are not. Female anti-feminists who organise IRL events and take real action DO exist, just keep in mind though that female anti-feminists often get silenced and attacked because feminism needs to maintain the idea that 99% of women agree with feminism, so when any woman tries to counter that narrative they will try to silnce her and as such you won't see that many female anti-feminists being active anywhere but they definitely do exist.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:19 PM
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If you don't care about discrimination then why are you on here? Seriously the fact that EVERY single pro-male space has to get invaded by feminists is extremely tiring. Yet all the feminist spaces instantly ban anyone who comes there and tries to pour some reality into your delusional worldview.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:13 PM
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Claiming that Men are privilliged? Denying that female on male abuse happens? The fact that so many people consider that "not too bad' shows just how much men are seen just as 3rd class citizens when this is the popular discourse.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:19 AM
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Nice r/USdefaultism
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:12 AM
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There is still open discrimination against Men in those fields in many parts of the world.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:06 AM
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Can you give me the source for no conscription? Everything I have seen online shows that there is indeed male-only conscription in Canada.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:17 AM
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Yes exactly! I personally always try to point out that feminist men are part of the problem too. Most true MRAs aren't blaming everything on female feminists.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:15 AM
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There have been some created except they have also been removed from app stores because they were male-only spaces.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:10 AM
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Except there have been male-ony platforms that were simply removed from app stores merely for being male-only spaces so there is a double standard.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:09 AM
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Most male-only platforms got removed from appstores for being male-only yet female-only platforms are usually allowed to exist.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:08 AM
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Feminists do. There are plenty of women who oppose feminism.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:06 AM
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Also the fact that most male-only platforms got pretty swiftly removed from app stores shows that the entire society being against women narrative is just blatantly false.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:05 AM
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Yeah and then feminists have the nerve to claim that women are universally disadvatanged or that men commit 95% of crimes when this is what happens when you report being a victim of a crime as a man. It's truly dehumanising.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:03 AM
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Then identifying as a feminist is doing active harm as feminists are ther ones pushing the harmful narratives. I have been told by feminists that I can't be r*ped because I'm a man, that I will always be physically stronger than any woman despite actually being physically weak (they NEVER acknowledge that men aren't always stronger than women) that being forced to fight in wars because I'm a man isn't anything to worry about and plenty of similar stuff. Also most of them openly advocate for viol…
/r/MensRights04/02/26 12:00 AM
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The main problem in my opinion is that most women who actually oppose feminism don't actively try to protest or show much IRL action and then it may seem like 99% of women are feminist when that is infact NOT true. It would be actually helpful if most anti-feminist women would show some incentive to actually protest and make their stance truly visible outside of social media. I know some activists who have tried organising IRL events but these are still few and far between. We need a lot more to…
/r/MensRights03/02/26 11:52 PM
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Women have the right to vote in almost every country on Earth and they usually vote for politicians who make these laws.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 11:23 PM
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Women usually vote for politicians who oppose making conscription gender-neutral also most countries in the world only ever conscript men. It's not only in America.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 11:21 PM
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There are still plenty of women who actively oppose feminism. Generalising everyone is stupid and innacuarte.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 11:17 PM
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even if they don’t identify as feminists Honestly in my experience it mostly matters if they identify as active anti-feminists rather than just proclaiming that they do not support feminism. That's usually a big difference from my experience.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 11:15 PM
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So by the feminists' logic feminists are misogynistic because they actively oppose women being included in conscription? also feminists usually oppose Men being ful time caretakers so they are openly admitting to being misandrist now.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 10:53 PM
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They are the ones denying that Men are oppressed.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 10:50 PM
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You can't have a logical conversation with these people. They will never want to steer away from their dellusional bubbles and will never accept anything that questions their narrative. it's usually pointless.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 10:48 PM
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That's not true, NO feminist today does that.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 10:44 PM
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Also one thing about the "Men are stronger" argument is that it's simply not true for every man yet NO feminist is willing to acknowledge that both men and women come in all shapes and sizes so applying the universal "female violence can never hurt men" which is extremely harmful and denies male victims who have suffered from serious female violence any recognition or justice.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 05:46 AM
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Well that's exactly my point - the right kind of support needed will depend on each individual, so having different support systems just based on gender is still going to maintain the harmful principles that deny men what they need. Also One thing to even begin implementing any changes is just the basic recognition that men can indeed be abused by women as there is still the presumption in society (and every feminist pushes that too) that female on male violence is acceptable and that women shou…
/r/MensRights02/02/26 05:40 AM
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I don't know what reasearch that was but denying the same reesources to male victims is inherrently going to result in disadavantages just based on one's gender where some victims will not have access to resources (e.g. DV shelters) just based on their gender Also a lot of research around this is heavily influenced by feminism and is likely to be biased and try to maintain the current system where help is mainly offered to female victims also Men are much less likely to admit to needing help due…
/r/MensRights01/02/26 03:05 AM
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OOP means the Original Original Poster i.e. in this case the post that was quoted by the person who made this post which was the one that claimed that only men assaulting women is a "health and safety issue" and never the other way around even though female on male violence with serious damage does happen and they were denying that.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:38 AM
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Perhaps but I also think it's more complicated than that. May I ask what part of the world do you live in or at least what are the politics there like (is it a liberal/progressive kind of area or not)? Because I have seen a pretty large ammount of content that is indeed anti-feminist and pro Men's Rights. There are Youtube channels, X Accounts and plenty of online content that even if you account for many of those being bots it still shows some scale of support and it is possible in my opinion t…
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:17 AM
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Except that's iterally what feminists do - including the OOP - they will deny that men can ever be victims of female violence no matter what.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:02 AM
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I didn't delete my comment so it was most likely remove either by the mods or Reddit admins. Either way the OOP is completely denying that women can inflict physical damage to men and if you actually disagree with that then outting that out first would be a great idea.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:00 AM
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The OOP talks about women not being able to inflict actual physical harm, that's WHY it was understood like that I beileve.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 12:58 AM
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The OP literally said "Wome hitting men is unlikely to cause damage" and that "it's only a health and safety concern when men hit women" when I know that to be false from experience Also Male victims of female violence are more liely to lie as to who caused the damage (I haven't reported it either) as saying you were beaten up by a woman will often get you at best laughed at and at worst arrested for "misogynistic speech" or something depending on your jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:52 AM
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Even if women were hurt more often, excluding male victims and denying that they can be harmed isn't going to fix that, it's the same excuse racist use such as "non-white people commit more crimes" etc. (while ignoring plenty of societal and historical factors that may contribute to that but that's for a different conversation) I think you might be the one who is trying to deny reality.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:26 AM
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Can you please leave us alone you pathetic abuse apologist? Men are not always sgtronger than women and female violence can deal actual damage. If you have no actual emphathy for abuse victims can you just go to the hate-filled femishit spaces instead? it's like male victims can't even have a safe space that isn't going to be constantly invaded by degenerates.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:22 AM
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This is what male victims have to deal with on a regular basis. Feminists are some of the worst people on Earth. I have personally suffered actual damage from female violence and still have to deal with shit like this. And we don't even get safe spaces where we don't have to be dismissed and told lies such as "Men are always 1000 times stronger" and where it just goes unopposed whereas if someone said something like "Women enjoy their SA" it would be removed instantly and depending on jurisdicti…
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:15 AM
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There is still a systemic disadvantage where boys are rarely taought those things.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:03 AM
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If you truly beileved that you wouldn't be a feminist. No one who truly cares would use that term today as it is only used to refer to white female supremacy now.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:01 AM
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Plenty of women and girls get taught that stuff when plenty of men and boys don't.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:49 PM
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Feminism is way beyond any meaningful reform, it HAS to be abolished if we want to achieve a better society for everyone.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:44 PM
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Except that's not gonna give us protection from violence or stop us from being forced to fight in wars or stop nonconsensual circumcision. We need to actually do something to stop feminism if we don't want to see society collapse.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:37 PM
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Focus on your accademic career Honestly this is probably not the best solution considering how so much of the education system is going to push feminist views onto him it's likely going to make it far worse for him.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 02:30 AM
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Yes I feel the same way, I do not have an issue with physically being male but the disadvantages we face are so bad that escaping those would solve so many problems in my life.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 02:28 AM
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I get how you feel, I hate it everytime I get up in the morning and it's an another day of being male and everything that comes with it. I would of course give almost everything to have been born female and not having to deal with any of this. And I honstly don't know exactly what to do to feel better about it but for me personally just engaging in anti-feminist activism does help to at least get some feeling of hope and fullfillment. I don't get why women can get away with so much things. Becau…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 02:15 AM
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I was just curious about it, Not really seeking advice where to move, just wanted to ask. Thanks for sharing that.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:56 AM
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The fact that feminists support it and don't even try to challange it shows their true intent. Feminism is a bad thing for EVERYONE and it needs to be destroyed if we want to build a batter society.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:52 AM
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Ok, Thanks for letting me know.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:26 AM
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Honestly I agree with you that language is important and we should use proper temrs for everyone and everything, so Thanks for calling it out.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:10 AM
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Okay, first of all I can understand that you might still want to ally with those supporting abortion rights, although a large number of feminists do NOT support abortion rights (just Google "pro-life feminism") and as a MRA (same thing as equalist just usually use that term) I fully support abprtion rights and bodily autonomy. Also for me personally the fact that I saw many women advocating for a ban on nonconsensual circumcision is what made me realise a lot more how important standing up for b…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 10:57 AM
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Even if the laws might be technically gender neutral, try reporting an assualt as a man when you have been hit by a woman. I have personally been assaulted by a woman some time ago and still have health consequences from it now and I haven't reported it for fear of being even possibly charged with things such as "misogynistic speech" or similar laws which effectively cancel out any gender-neutral laws around assault or violence. Also EVERY single feminist thinks it's okay for women to hit men an…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 10:42 AM
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It would finally let us have a conversation about men having basic human rights, having actual protections from violence, access to social support systems, not be forced into the millitary and fight in wars they do not want to be part of, end nonconsensual circumcision, and all of the other things that men face in society. It would also take away certian rights from women such as women being allowed to hit men, commit sex abuse, and other crimes often without punishment, which would in my opinio…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:45 PM
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Ok, I would honestly agree with most of that, I didn't see your other comment where you labeled yourself an equalist which I definitelly agree with, but I would also consider it to be synnonymous with a Men's Rights Activist. Could you perhaps if you don't mind also tell me what parts of feminism do you like? Becuase it's very well possible that it's already included in the Men's Rights ideology too and the negative views you saw were from trolls or agitators (there are plenty in this sub)
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:40 PM
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Of course!, I even tought you would just mention the generaal area if anything (like the continent) so no worries.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:33 PM
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I'm sorry that you have been called that but I honestly haven't actually seen women who support us on here being called that unless it was sarcastic and I believe the downvotes are probably from the pretty high number of agitators who seem to lurk on this sub Let's just say im glad im female because I would not want to go through what you guys do Thank you for saying that! Honestly just feels so refreshing seeng someone mention that as I have been attacked by feminists myself for saying that I w…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:27 PM
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Exceot feminism has political power on the UN level so ending it would be beneficial for everyone.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:20 PM
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Could I ask you what specifically do you disagree with on both feminism and on here?
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:16 PM
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That may be because most crimes committed by women are unreported, also women are straight up allowed to hit men and do plenty of other things where it would be considered a crime if a man did it. Alaso Could you please fuck off from this space? You already have a tonne of feminist spaces to push your bullshit narrative on. Women are the inherently priviilliged gender and no ammount of denying basic facts is going to change that.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:13 PM
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I am not American so I am not going to speak to US specific issues, but claiming that socirty isn't gynocentric because men had political power ignores the fcat that women also had protections that men even today can only often dream of, women were and in most countries still are exempt from being forced into the millitary and to fight in wars, women's lives are considered more valuable (the entire women and children rhetoric), women are allowed to hit men, nonconsensual circumcision being legal…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:04 PM
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Ok, I didn't realise that you meant the racists were specifically targeting women as that's not the typical behaviour I have seen from racist groups, but I was still also just referring to labelling all girls as "weak" when (just like you also said) if your cousin was a small boy he would've likely been just as defenseless and I believe making the rhetoric around that clear is important as many physically weaker men and boys suffer when they are never seen as also needing protection so it should…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 09:45 PM
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Could I ask you where did you leave to and where were you originally from (at least a general area for both)? Feel free to just ignore my comment if you don't want to share that!
/r/MensRights23/01/26 09:29 PM
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Yes, Honestly feminists blaming men for period pain or any other actual biological differences should be seen the same as men blaming women for getting unwanted erections, balls injuries being so painful, certain diseases being more likely to affect male bodies and simillar arguments i.e. completelly ridiculous.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 03:24 AM
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When you think it's all women, take a step back. Remember the people who would stand up for you. Those women matter so much. Thank you for saying this! I have seen a lor of rheotoric on this sub lately about how "all women are feminists" when there are PLENTY of female anti-feminists who are fighring for a better society and they often also get silenced, sometimes even more so than male anti-feminists (mainly because feminism wants to present the idea that 99% of women are feminists so any femal…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 03:13 AM
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One improtant factor here is that crimes committed by women are much less likely to get reported and also the fact that women are allowed to do things such as hit men or touch men inappropraitelly without permission, So the statistics about women committing crimes would be much higher if women doing things where it's considered a crime if a man does it were also charged.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 03:02 AM
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Could you point me in the general direction of where did you find this type of content? Am genuienly curious to see that.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 02:56 AM
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I definitelly agree with most of what you said (except for the women/girls being automatically weak and tiny when both genders come in all shapes and sizes so that is just feeding into that rhetoric) and I would say that I also pretty much stopped believing feminist rhetoric because of their complete denial of obvious facts and I personally believe that it has made me a somewhat better white European where I now, due to the treatment of men from feminists, realise a lot more that I'm still privi…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 02:53 AM
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I actually haven't really thought of that factor until recently. but yes, with that being the case it's fairly reasonable to assume that it is possible a large number of these may be commited by women, so even the murder statistics only take into account the actually solved cases and even then there is a possibillity of wrongful conviction being more likely to happen to men due to bias and the expectation that men are more violent that is so ingrained in society.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 02:30 AM
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These pros are definitelly not universal, Not all men are physically strong or can defend themselves (How strong the AVERAGE male is doesn't matter to you as an individual) and we can still get pretty much legally assaulted by women. I'd much rather would have been born female and have all the advantages, privilliges, treatment and opportunities (such as to work in childcare without discrimination) even if it meant not having some of the male benefits which in my opinion are miniscule in compars…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:59 AM
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Yes, Thank you for saying this, I am a white man and I still realise that I'm privilliged because I'm white and European even if I'm oppressed for being male. You can always include that in the discussion. Denying those facts just makes any positive social change more difficult and makes you pretty much just as bad as the feminists. That being said just to note that there are plenty of Trolls and agitators on this sub so a lot of that rhetoric could be coming from them.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:53 AM
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Yeah, as a white European man I still realise that I have it better for being white. You can be opressed because of one trait (such as being a Man) and still be privilliged in another (such as being white) you can recognise both of these and I believe it is important to include that in the discussion.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:37 AM
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Can you please stop spreading this bullshit here? Not all men are phisically strong (and we can still pretty much legally get assaulted by women) or can defend ourselves. Many men (myself included) believe our lives are horrible because we're Men. I would give almost anything to have been born female and have all of the benefits, advantages, treatment and opportunities that Women have. Our lives are very far from awesome. Also Women can provide for themselves too.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:30 AM
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Yes, Thank you for saying that.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:27 AM
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"Men commit most violent crimes like murder and assault" Let's not forget that many crimes commited by female perpetrators also don't ever get reported, and just the fact that women are allowed to hit and touch men without permission also means that if these were all counted as cimes the rates would be much higher.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:26 AM
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I definitely support abolishing the UN not only from a gender equality perspective, but also the fact that it basically functions as an imperialist body that enforces ideas onto people around the world who may not agree with their principles or who may want to run their societies from a different societal or cultural perspective. So the entire "keeping a rule-bsed international order" is just enforcing an imperialist narrative in my view and it would be for the benefit of the entire world if tha…
/r/MensRights18/01/26 03:28 AM
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Plenty of words that used to hold a certian meaning were turned into basically weaponised slurs to be used by feminists to describe anything and anyone they disagree with.
/r/MensRights18/01/26 03:20 AM
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I think you might be the one who is dumb. You can absolutely have a Men's Rights Organisation that also advocates for women. The fact that you immediatelly have to jump to mock the idea shows that you are the one with a very narrow bigoted thinking.
/r/MensRights18/01/26 02:34 AM
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If you actually wanted to help these women it would make more sense to start new Men's Rights Ideology based orgs that would ACTUALLY focus on helping women in these parts of the world and not just fight against the basic rigths of men to have protection from violence and abuse which is what they're currently doing.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:18 PM
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Nice r/USdefaultism
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:07 PM
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Exactly! if any men uphold beauty standards it's feminist men, anti-feminists (both male and female) are against those standrads. Of course feminists just want more victimhood points despite women being a lot more priviliged than men. Also of course they'll never mention all the ways that being a man actually costs more, You're more likely to get injured working the harder jobs that are mainly done by men, housing discrimination in many places around the world where men often have fewer opportun…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:04 PM
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I get that, but the OP also mentions how women body shaming men is given a pass and I was referring to how body shaming, regardless of gender, is mainly perpetuated by feminism so of course that they're going to push double standards and make excuses for shitty behaviour.
/r/MensRights04/01/26 09:55 PM
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I think that type of thinking is ridicoulous considering that so many women (especially feminists) body shame other women, especially since most feminist women mainly want to compete with each other and put other women down, so both are a societal issue that is mainly caused by feminism. Feminists body shame both men and women and they also set the societal standards for how both should, in their view, ideally look like so the idea that it's only men who body shame others is completely false.
/r/MensRights04/01/26 09:49 PM
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Feminism and women are two completely different terms, Please finally stop conflating these two. Being anti-feminist does NOT make you anti-women. I hate all feminists but I obviously do NOT hate women and have massive respect for the women who actively oppose feminism. I also mean this with full respect, but Please Go talk to some women who actually oppose feminism and maybe you'll be able to learn from an another perspective. not to mention that assuming that every woman is or has to be a femi…
/r/MensRights04/01/26 09:30 PM
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Just books? Literally almost every piece of art, especially TV Shows and movies (Games luckily not as much and I don't listen to modern music enough to form an opinion on it) is now fully controlled by the feminists. it's honesty pretty tiring that you can't even watch a TV Show or read a book nowadays without being exposed to constant propaganda about how men can't ever be abused and all kinds of other stupid shit like that. I hate this so much.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 09:45 PM
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I genuienly don't know much about childbirth pain so I am not going to comment on that but I do actually agree that abuse is a lot more common than a lot of people admit. The issue is that feminists perpetuate the lie that it's only women who can be victims of abuse and that women can't physically abuse men. I have been told by feeminists that I can't be r*ped by women because I am a man and EVERY single feminist thinks it's ok for women to hit men and they don't acknowledge that men aren't alwa…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 09:35 PM
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Honestly, I personally think that comparing what is harder by actually looking at the different responsibilities and roles is pointless as it will always be subjective to at least a certain extent, however If feminists actually believed that being a stay at home parent is harder they would demand that men do it while they work and provide which is something almost evrey feminist rejects and woud refer to as being "misogyny" and claim that "women deserve to be stay at home parents" and similar ar…
/r/MensRights22/12/25 04:33 AM
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Women are NOT always weaker than men. Please stop spreading this bullshit here. That is only going to hurt male victims even more.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 04:25 AM
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Yeah, and what is especially painful is when feminists say things such as "why can't you report that you were assaulted?" When we have a system going against us.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 05:24 PM
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Yes, Thank you for saying this. It's sad that so few people seem to be able to grasp such a pretty straightforward concept.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 05:03 PM
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I don't think that most people on here are saying it's ALL women and if anyonew is actually insinuating that then I definitelly disagree with it. It's feminists who want men to provide for women and make statements such as "women are owed marriage" and label men who don't want to get marrid for whatever reason "misogynists". Again, most of us know it's not anywhere near all women, we're criticising the feminists who hold these views.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 02:18 AM
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I don't know of any personally but I believe that we should be looking to start more. There really is currently barely anything where men can truly openly discuss their experiences.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 02:10 AM
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Most male victims are not going to be taken seriously in most jurisdictions though.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 02:04 AM
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Didn't she later say that she is no longer a feminist or something along those lines though? I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that somewhere, Either way the number of feminists who do support trans people is so small that IMHO it's mainly pointless to try to differenciate between them. ALL feminists are bad.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 01:53 AM
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Well, that;'s my point then, Even if there was a valid reason to start it, it is nothing more than a hate supremacist movement now. There is no reason to try to support anything like "real" feminism anyomre. I believe that we should be looking to fully abolish it and replace it with something that would actually work for anyone.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 01:46 AM
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Not to downplay or minimise your experience, but honestly suppporting ANY kind of feminism is harmful in my opinion. There is no "true" or "good" kind of feminism, if any of those people would actually care about equality they wouldn't be feminists at all.
/r/MensRights07/12/25 05:03 AM
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I personally don't think that this is the case, Surely many feminists will use all kinds of different labels and adjectives in from of the term feminist but usually they all actually hate trans people, some just openly admit it whereas others will try to pretend that they actually care and support them to try and appear more accepting and as being for equality, but they almost never mean it.
/r/MensRights07/12/25 05:00 AM
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I personally definitelly don't see it as weird at all., I think the main issue is that you're looking at it through a "Are they liberal or conservative" lens, when those definitions don't really matter in this case as feminists really just want a fascist supremaist society where anyone who isn't a cis-female is a third class citizen only meant to serve the upper class and they obviously see the existence of trans people as a threat to that goal. Being "liberal" or "conservative" is actually irre…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 04:51 AM
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Honestly as a cis man I can definitely relate to that, and the fact that I also got told by feminists that I'm supposedly stupid for saying that I would much rather be born AFAB and have to deal with all of the disadvantages that women face if it meant having all of the priviliges, adavantages and opportunities women have is honestly excruciating.
/r/MensRights07/12/25 04:43 AM
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Not to mention that feminists DON'T want men to do these tasks and they don't want women to do any house maintanance type of tasks either, so what they're actually doing is just trying to collect victimhood points as the current status is how they WANT it to be.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 07:51 PM
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Don't they both have male-onlty draft, as well as a ton of discrimantive laws regarding violence etc.? Also pretty sure nonconsensual circumcision is also legal in both.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 07:47 PM
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The problem with that is a significant number of people (including myself) have their home IP addresses rotate frequently and these are often registered to different cities/areas, not to mention mobile users, people connecting on public wifi as well as plenty of other cases where a single user won't just be using one access point so this approach could easily prevent legitimate users from using the platform, which is why I think ths is a bad idea overall.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 07:40 PM
6

So that anyone who is antifeminist or a male victim of female violence demanding justice can get arrested on bogus charges of "misogynistic speech" or the like? That's such a horrible idea I don't even know where to start.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:46 AM
1

The main issue with this is how would the actual technical implementation work? If you're going to determine that by the IP Address, then simply using a VPN would change that, and if you were to say require some more verification such as a phone number, IMHO that would be a major blow to people's privacy and the accessibility of Reddit for discussing sensitive topics and topics some people would consider controversial. Also the fact that many people, especially those living in smaller countries …
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:43 AM
5

I get that, the sheer amount of r/USdefaultism I see on Reddit all the time is so annoying.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:33 AM
1

I would argue that most of the points in the original proposed legislation would be okay IF there were also components that would address all of the inequalities that men face such as: -No more male-only conscription on EU level (either no one gets conscripted or everyone does) -End the housing discrimantion that men face -Address on EU level the discrimination that men face while being caretakers, whether that's being the primary caretaker for a child or being in any caregiving position -Ensure…
/r/MensRights27/11/25 03:22 AM
2

Men are NOT priviliged and no, we are NOT stronger than women. Stop perpetuating this bullshit here.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 12:14 AM
2

Men are NOT priviliged and no, we are NOT stronger than women. Stop perpetuating this bullshit here.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 12:14 AM
1

Yet you take no issue with all of the feminist takes that women should be able to abuse, assault and SA men, that only women deserve to be primary caretakers to children or those actually downplaying genital mutilation that get reguralry perpetuated in feminist spaces? I do actually agree that there are some bullshit takes on here (although I believe that a lot of them actually come from feminist trolls just trying to make us look bad) but let's not pretend that feminist spaces aren't far, far w…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 12:10 AM
2

What would be more ideal if they would actually drop the feminist policies themselves, whether in foreign policy or on domestic issues. That being said this could be a good sign overall, especially if they were signalling that the current government is at least trying to acknowledge to some extent that feminism in not a good thing.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 10:08 PM
10

Obviously doesn't even mention men being forced into the millitary which happens in a good number of states. It's only equality when it benefits cis-females.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 10:00 PM
3

That's not true. There are plenty of parents who will treat some of their children way more favourably based on their sex. It is something that has also happened in my extended family and I honestly think this doesn't get talked about enough.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 10:00 PM
1

Yes, This exactly! I can absolutely understand parents wanting to have AFAB babies as they'll end up having at least the most basic human rights. Of course the real solution would be to dismantle the feminist systems that causes all of the injustices but it makes sense that parents would want AFAB babies in the current situation.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:57 PM
2

That's some complete and utter horseshit.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:51 PM
14

Yes exactly! It honestly feels so beliitling when feminists talk about how "dress codes are usually sexist towards women" when it's almost always the other way around. And if they truly cared about getting rid of them they could simply use all of their political power to make them illegal, which they don't. They really just want society to exist in the way it currently does and then just complain about the effects of the policies that THEY support just to get victimhood points.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:31 PM
22

And while it fell out of fashion a few years ago, the term "cool girl" is also a pathetic and a disgusting insult.
/r/MensRights16/11/25 11:13 PM
3

The main issue here is that, like you said, even if we do for the sake of argument refer to all of that as the patriarchy, it's the self-identified feminists who support those ideas and push claims such as "women are weak and frail and need to be constantly protected" and the like. They are the ones who support all the DV policies that discriminate against male victims and often deny that men can be victims of r*pe and proclaim things such as "men enjoy it" and other disgusting shit as well as n…
/r/MensRights16/11/25 11:02 PM
3

Yes, Thank you for mentioning this, The distinction between women and feminists needs to be made clear as way too many people conflate these two wrods.
/r/MensRights16/11/25 10:50 PM
1

Because I can very well be chagred with things such as "misogynistic speech" and the like for merely mentioning that I was assaulted by a woman, and no lol the only reason the laws against misogyny exist is to absolve female abusers of their responsibility. And yes being cicrcumcised IS a form of genital mutilation, the fact that you come here and deny that is completely disgusting. And men face an incredible ammount of misandry and disccrimination when going into these fields. It's NOT because …
/r/MensRights16/11/25 10:33 PM
1

It's still somewhat ingrained into society and culture where I live, and much more so in other places in the world. point being is that feminists want it like that and then complain whenever it backfires.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:59 AM
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I don't know what particular issues theswe cover but women receive protection in the most important areas, like protection from violence, exemption from being forced into the millitary, and genital mutilation. The fact that you come here and try to downplay these shows just how horrible feminism is, You can pretty much live a free life, will be taken seriously when asaulted by those stronger than you and yet you come here and spread blatant lies. It must suck trying to live with yourself being l…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:57 AM
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If you're going to start off by saying "I don't believe you aren't as strong" then that just shows you don't want to face the facts and simpky project when your insane privilige is challanged. There are many men who are physically weaker so the "average" statistics don't mean much. I'm copying this from an another post as I'm not going to type it all again, These are just a few of them: -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:48 AM
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Yet female incels complain all the time that they can't get the men that they want and they have the nerve to cite that as a reason why they're supposedly "oppressed".
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:24 AM
2

Yes, I would also like to know, New Zealand almost never gets mentioned on here despite being a major country.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:20 AM
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That doesn't help you when you're weaker and being assaulted by a woman. If the same was being said about any other group there would be outrage. The "don't hit women" is just how feminists try to uphold the women's licence to commit violence.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 04:03 AM
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Yes, I would much rather deal with a potential preganacy than anything men have to deal with. and the idea that women are always physically vurnurable to men is a complete bullshit. Women have actual protections from violence and it's prewtty much legal for women to hit men. I have been assualted by a woman and I still have health consequences from that. and I don't care about going into academics. I don't care about others judging my worth based on that. You are so insanely priviliged for being…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 03:25 AM
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Then they will have the nerve to claim that "misandrists are not real feminists" or some other horseshit like that.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:52 AM
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Because it challanges their privilige which is something they have to control in order to maintain the dialogue that is in their favour.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:50 AM
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That's a blatant lie, Just the fact that men get forced to fight in wars is a clear example of that being false. In most countries in the world women have more rights, liberties and freedoms than men.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:22 AM
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If we could pick, why would anyone choose to live as a man instead of a woman? Exactly! I don't know if that person is AFAB but of course most of us (myself included) would take being born female, even with some of the disadvantages that come with it, the sheer ammount of advantages and opportunities is well worth it. Honestly I don't know if most female feminists are just this ignorant and don't realise that they have been the beneficiaries of massive privilige since they were babies and never …
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:20 AM
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I know I'm not the person you're replying to but if I could be born again today I wlould definitely chose to be a woman as it's women who are advanatged. Yes, I wouldn't be taken as seriously in business but I would be taken more seriously as a caretaker and a mum, I would be exempt from ever being forced into the millitary, I would have protection from genital mutilation, It would be actually considered wrong for anyone to hit me (none of this don't hit women bullshit), I would have actual prot…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:12 AM
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Yes I meant that your overview was pretty accurate (I wasn't being sarcastic if that was what it sounded like)
/r/MensRights13/11/25 01:58 AM
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They’d never ask that if it was a man This exactly! And even if someone would ask that in a gender-reversed situation it would be dismissed and ridiculed.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 01:55 AM
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Not saying that this shoudn't be changed, but also one fundamental issue with women being paid less is that men are expected to be providers for their family, and most feminists don't want to change that.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 12:44 AM
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That is a great analogy!
/r/MensRights13/11/25 12:42 AM
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Honestly there is also the fact that anytime we do try to complain about it we just get labeled as "misogynists" and told to "check our priviliege" and the like.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 12:41 AM
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Of course I am tired of that. I have to live under feminist oppression and suffer from a large number of injustices specific to men whereas women DO have it objectively easier in MOST areas of society and it feels so disheartening and exhausting to having to listen to the constant lies that it's the opposte (especially if it's from female feminists when most of them wouldn't last 2 minuts being a man). It wouldn't be as excruciating if it was widely acknowledged that men do have it harder and if…
/r/MensRights13/11/25 12:37 AM
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Thank you for acknowledging that.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 12:28 AM
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No offence, but there are so many feminist takes on here that it can be easy to misread things like these easily.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 03:51 AM
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Yeah, I have tried making a post about it on this sub yet it got removed by the mods.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 03:28 AM
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This is just a bare overview of most of the things I havee experienced being a man, I'm coying these from some of my other posts to save me from typing everything again: -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same protection from violence than women in most countries in the world, Men can SA'd, r*ped and beaten and have very little means of getting justice especially if the perpetrator is female -Woem can straight up hit men no m…
/r/MensRights12/11/25 02:46 AM
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That's not always true. Men are NOT always stronger than women. This type of bullshit rhetoric is what gets people hurt.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 02:37 AM
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I knwo i'm not the person you were replying to, but I personally had posts removed (not approved) by mods on here without providing any proper explanation or justification when talking to them about it. Some of these posts were talking about femle-on-male assault, advocating for the education system teaching actual history, post talking about how we should ensure that no racist and white supremacist views are tolerated in the Men's Rights Movement and a post merely criticising feminism were just…
/r/MensRights12/11/25 02:33 AM
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I agree with you that billionaires definitely benefit from the pointless gender war but claiminig that the Democrats are anti-capitalism or anti- Billionaires is just laughable. It was the Democrats who were making fun of working class people right before the 2024 presidential election and they also love to worship Billionaires like Bill Gates or George Sorros. Also to be clear I'm not from the US. It's just that the politicians where I live are increasingly becoming more of a US Democrat-like a…
/r/MensRights12/11/25 02:19 AM
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Honestly, I think that there are some feminists who were just brainwashed into thinking that and then there are those who are well aware of the facts and they just use that to gain even more power.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 01:56 AM
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Of course that's not true. There's also the obvious fact that most male victims will not report their female assailant and that many male victims will often internilise guilt and sometimes try to justify what happened. Just the fact that men often get told that men can't be r*ped because they always enjoy sex and other bullshit like that is a major part of the problem too.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 01:49 AM
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What about the women who actively engage in anti-feminist activism including many IRL events and who provide support to male victims of violence for example?
/r/MensRights10/11/25 03:08 AM
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There are still many anti-feminist women who don't hate men. Generalising like that and making false statements is only going to hurt us.
/r/MensRights10/11/25 03:05 AM
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Not all women are feminists. Us anti-feminists should be better and not generalise like that.
/r/MensRights10/11/25 03:00 AM
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To me personally I do not feel like a human being BECAUSE I'm male. I can be beaten and SAd by women at any time, I never really had any bodily autononmy, I can be used as a tool to fight in the milllitary whenever my government decides so, I have to face discrimination in housing and in female-dominated fields, amongst many other things and I get hated for demanding basic dignity and justice.
/r/MensRights10/11/25 01:49 AM
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Do you have any sort of a platform/following you could talk about this to? That could be one thing.
/r/MensRights10/11/25 12:01 AM
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We DO have to be against each other as feminism reguralry preaches that it's okay for women to hit or SA men, that nonconsensual circumcision should be legal, that inclusive hiring policies should only be for women, amognst many other things. And not wanting to leave feminism is honestly just an excuse to keep supporting those ideals. I'm a white man but I would NEVER join any white supremacist movement simply because there were some peope I shared some experiences with who were a part of it. Th…
/r/MensRights09/11/25 11:44 PM
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Yes women are boxed into many roles, but if you look at what the feminists are actually DOING (not just what they say) you can see that it is them who are pushing for these standards because they do not want women to lose any of their priviliges and then us Men's Rights Activists get blamed for any disadvantage that women may experience because of the norms pushed by feminists. If you actually want to remove gender norms and DO NOT believe that women are "weak and stupid" join the Men's Rights M…
/r/MensRights09/11/25 11:28 PM
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I;m not saying that there were never historicaly any injustices against women, but stating that it was only women who were told where they belong is a priviliged and a stupid take. Men were always told they have to fight in wars, that they have to protect and provide for women and plenty of other things throughout history. If you actually cared about equality you can acknowledge all of these facts. Making ahistorical claims isn't going to solve anything for anyone.
/r/MensRights09/11/25 10:57 PM
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I don't diagree with most of your points but please avoid r/USdefaultism on here.
/r/MensRights09/11/25 10:39 PM
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Because the overwhelming majority of them want women to be able to hit and abuse men, support all kinds of discriminative programmes where women get hired more into male-dominant fields without the opposite happening and they support only men being sent to wars, amongst plenty of other things, as well as many feminist organisations actively fighting aginst support and shelters for male victims of violence, just to name a few. To be clear I DO NOT hate women in general and I do realise that many …
/r/MensRights08/11/25 03:42 AM
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I know I'm not the person you were replying to, but I do definitely want women to stand up for men's rights.
/r/MensRights08/11/25 03:30 AM
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They didn't say anything about women, they said feminist. I hate how those two words with two completely different meanings get used interchangeably.
/r/MensRights08/11/25 03:28 AM
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Of course you're just going to make excuses instead of admitting that is indeed the bulk of what the feminist movement actually is. How would you like it if I said that people who don't support abortion rights are simply not educated well enough on the subject and downplay it like that?
/r/MensRights08/11/25 03:23 AM
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lol no the overwhelming majority of men who would like their female partner to be the breadwinner understand that doing housework (assuming their female partner would then also do the tasks typically done by men such as home maintanance or lawn care if applicable) is an absolutely reasonable demand to be had of them in that position. Those who do not understand that deserve all the ridicule in my opinion. And No feminists don't want men to be care takers, home makers or primarily taking care of …
/r/MensRights06/11/25 05:32 PM
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{Assuming you are female based on the context} Then try to find someone who would want that type of life. There are plenty of men who would very much prfer those roles except they get told by feminists how "it's misogynistic and only women deserve to be given those roles" etc.
/r/MensRights06/11/25 03:56 PM
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It's not a lie, Thse roles exist because feminists DON'T want a more gender-neutral society. There are plenty of men who would love to raise children but the feminists in power DO NOT want that. If you actually want a more equal society start fighting against feminism and join the Men's Rights Movement.
/r/MensRights06/11/25 03:53 PM
3

Most of us reguralry do that.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:40 AM
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That depends on the country/area and the organisation, but if you'll search for articles you can find plenty of examples of them doing either of these things.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:29 AM
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That's not true. And those politicians were also voted in by women (assuming it's not in one of the few countries in the world where women are not allowed to vote).
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:22 AM
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Because he's physically bigger , faster, and stronger, than she is. That's not always the case. Stop pushing your feminist bullshit here.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:20 AM
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Let's not forget about the many organisations worldwide which self-identify as feminist yet they promote things such as male-only conscription laws, laws that are created to deny male victims of violence justice and support as well as thing such as opposing a ban on nonconsentual circumcision. That alone should be indicative enough on what do they actually believe.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:14 AM
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Copying this from some of my earlier comments as I would just have to type everything out again: There is so much of it it's hard to list everything, but mainly the fact that I can be forced into the millitary where I live and in most countries in the world is one of the worst, also the fact that I have basically no protection from violence and I have to be scared to report any violence that I have been a victim of due to all the laws around misogyny, the fact that I had no protection from genit…
/r/MensRights03/11/25 01:07 AM
0

Maybe because men ARE actually marginalised? Also as a white men I realise that I am still priviliged for being white but also disadvantaged for being male. It's men and non-white people who are oppressed, not white people or women (except for a few countries in the world).
/r/MensRights03/11/25 12:41 AM
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There is so much of it it's hard to list everything, but mainly the fact that I can be forced into the millitary where I live and in most countries in the world is one of the worst, also the fact that I have basically no protection from violence and I have to be scared to report any violence that I have been a victim of due to all the laws around misogyny, the fact that I had no protection from genital mutilation when I was a kid and even though I wasn't a victim my parents could have decided to…
/r/MensRights30/10/25 01:56 AM
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Any of the "good" feminists have the option of leaving the movement and joining the Men's Rights Movement instead. I believe that we shouldn't be trying to absolve them of the social responsibility that comes with supporting a hate movement.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 01:19 AM
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Imagine if a more male-centric paper would write a similar article except with the genders reversed. There would be outrage. Also, I don't know what does race have to do with this.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 01:03 AM
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Women are also not expected to do any of the hard physical tasks such as repairs or home maintanance.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 01:00 AM
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Men's Rights Activists have no political power. Almost all of the men who do have political power are feminist men who are primarily interested in further supporting Women's Rights and do not care about the injustices that men face at all.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 12:55 AM
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Women could always try at least advocating for men and speaking out about the ways in which men are oppressed. like at least on Social media if not anywhere more public. As a woman you're much less likely going to be charged with something like "misogynystic speech" simply for advocating for men to have equal rights. So I believe just that would be a good place to start.
/r/MensRights21/10/25 11:59 PM
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The issue is that in many places around the world you straight up risk being charged with things like "misogynystic speech" for even mentioning that you were assualted or abused by a woman. That's the main reason I haven't reported being assualted by a woman almost a year ago as the possibility of legal issues is just too scary for me.
/r/MensRights21/10/25 11:53 PM
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Thanks, but these are movies not TV shows which is what I was msotly looking for, but thank you for taking the effort to list all of that.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 05:14 AM
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I agree with that view and I don't want to do any of these things to women and I have never believed that women are less intelligent than men (other than when I was a kid and that was what I was taught) And You're right that we can try to solve both men's and women's issues and that's what I want.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 05:08 AM
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Yeah, and what's the worst is that this causes men to not report any SA or violence committed by women agaiinst them and then we end up with all the "90% of violence is committed by men" that the media and pretty much every feminist tout all day.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:43 AM
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I don't watch or read to any papers in the uk that are incredibly sexist to men Isn't that pretty much all of them?
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:36 AM
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It is that, just like the overwhelming majority of media these days.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:34 AM
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It is for feminists. There are plenty of women who actually opposse feminism. Let's not resort to stupid generalisations on here.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:33 AM
1

It may be a sign of a small change but I have personally seen reports like these already and the main issue with these is that most violence committed by women against men remains unreported, so the number of male victims in IPV is likely MUCH higher and I believe we should focus on finally trying to get that point across.
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:28 AM
2

Where do I start, in no particular order: 1) having the hair lenght that I want 2) being able to wear what I want 3) being able to play the instruments that I want 4) cry 5) being able to play with all the toys that were "for girls" as a kid 6) act feminine or just show any subtle sign of anything that isn't deemed masculine 7) work in fields such as childcare or all the others that are usually only hiring women 8) consume any type of content that is seen as being for women 9) Being interested i…
/r/MensRights20/10/25 04:25 AM
1

Maybe that's because we have no political power and any attempts we make at influencing policy are instantly labeled as misogynistic by all the feminists in power. The entire principle of the Men's Rights Movement is based on equality and advocating for everyone who faces injustices. Meanwhile feminist politicians and organisations are actively trying to ensure that only men will get drafted into the millitary, that women can pretty much legally commit vioence against men (I have also been a vic…
/r/MensRights20/10/25 03:55 AM
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a lot of them are horrible and even the ones I thought were great at some point made it clear that they thought my role as a woman was predetermined... Like, they think I am worthy and great - buuuuut I will forever do better as a caregiver and I should just accept that. And I always hated how that is taking any agency away from me.... As a MRA I absolutely don't believe that women's roles should be predetermined as caregivers, On the contrary I believe that kind of rhetoric hurts men and only s…
/r/MensRights16/10/25 09:18 PM
1

Yes, This exactly!
/r/MensRights16/10/25 09:03 PM
1

There are NO "good" feminists fighting by our side. ALL feminists are toxic hateful fascists who downplay male oppression and only care about white cis-females. If any one of them truly cared they would NOT label themselves a feminist.
/r/MensRights16/10/25 08:57 PM
1

You do NOT need feminism for that. The Men's Rights Ideology supports that without all the hate and denying men basic human rights. I was just told by a feminist that male babies being forced to be circumcised is 'not a big deal" or something along those lines. So much for bodily autonomy from you feminists. If you ACTUALLY believe that men and women should be equal then you should reject feminism and embrace the Men's Rights Ideology instead. It's the feminists who push narratives such as "wome…
/r/MensRights16/10/25 08:47 PM
1

I'm sorry but what exactly have you not seen? Men's Righrs Ideology supporting women in the areas they are indeed disadavntaged? If so that may be because we have almost no political power and get silenced by most of the media but we DO support that.
/r/MensRights16/10/25 08:26 PM
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I can still see the messege pretty clearly myself.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 07:33 AM
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Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights15/10/25 07:20 AM
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Personally I don't fully agree with all of the points on there, but it was still refreshing to see something that calls out the system pushing men and women to hate each other all while corporate profits increase and most people are barely being able to afford the basics.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 07:17 AM
-6

Seriously? You'd rather focus on the fact that the video was made with AI rather than the actual content?
/r/MensRights15/10/25 07:14 AM
1

Thanks, but that's mostly older stuff and I already know about most of those, I was thinking if there was some newer content that is mosstly an exception to the modern feminist ideology infested standard.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 06:32 AM
3

I call myself a feminist because of countries like Afghanistan where women cannot vote and muslim countries for instance where women are seen as property. Except you don't have to call yourself a feminist if you support these. Men's Rights Ideology includes that kind of advocacy as well.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 06:28 AM
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Again, in your ountry that may be the case, in most countries (Including in Ukraine which 99.99% of feeminists support instead of advocating for its abolition) only men get drafted and I don't know which of the small handful of cuntries that have gender equal conscription laws you're in, but almost every one of them had feminist resistance to making them gender-neutral (Especially Norway) So that should tell you all about what feminissm believes in. Also, You never addressed any of my other poin…
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:59 AM
1

Yeah, and the mental sufferring after having to listen to feminists everywhere saying how "95% of violence is committed by men" when these statistics only exist because men usually don't report violence being committed against them by a woman is so excruciating.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:47 AM
7

To be honest, there are plenty of trolls and aggitators on here which could give someone the impression that traditional gender roles is something we believe in. Honestly I think that better moderation would help this sub a lot. You can have free speech while still banning all the obvious trolls.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:39 AM
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1) First of all, I think if anyone is being hostile it's towards feminism as a whole, regardless of whether it's men or women who perpetuate it. and as for the hostility itself, I do agree on being better than the feminists, but I can also understand if some people get angry when they've been oppressed their entire life by feminism and we reguralry have to listen to feminists invading even this space and calling us privilleged etc. Much like, as a white man, I can understand non-white people bei…
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:37 AM
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You're such a piece of shit. Men DO face so many injustices against them. Men get forced into the millitary because of their sex, men can get pretty much legally beaten by women and it gets socially celebrated when it happens, men have no legal protection from genital mutilation anywhere in the world, amongts many other things. The fact that you come here and say all of this bs from your privilliged bubble is pathetic. Women are the privilliged sex and are NOT oppressed.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:28 AM
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Thank you for saying this. I honestly don't think many feminist women realise how harmful it is when we as men can be forced int the millitary because of our sex, can be pretty much legally beaten by women because of our sex and can legally have a paert of our genitals removed against our will and still have to listen to how we supposedly have "privillige" because we're men from the feminists.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:24 AM
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I'd much rather de denied the right to vote if it meant having a guarantee to never be forced into the millitary.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 05:20 AM
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Except that is not what feminism stands for at all I have just been told 2 minutes ago that I'm priviliged for being a man. THAT"S what feminism stands for.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 04:59 AM
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You could say the same thing about white supremacy. i.e. That some white supremacists believe in an open market system while others support a more socialist organaised system, that some are pro-war while others anti-war, or plenty of other subjects where particular individuals might disagree. That still doesn't make white supremacy as an ideology itself a good thing or something that should be supported.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 04:42 AM
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I realise that Hollywood is one of the worst sources for media these days, and I do try to look for non-US media mostly as it usually isn't as bad. And I'm aware about anime usually steering clear of at least the worst of misandry but I was looking more for live action stuff.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:54 AM
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Personally, I have seen many (especially older) films and TV shows which are straight-up anti-feminist. And I was asking if anyone knew any newer ones that aren't at least as bad as the average mainstream stuff.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:51 AM
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Men who were also voted in by women. And also litertally every single feminist is in favour of sending support to Ukaraine instead of advocating for that illegitimate state to surrender.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:38 AM
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Then maybe stop supporting feminism if you do actually find these disgusting? That's like if I, being a white man, said something like "White supremacists advocating for the murder of black people is making us white supremacsits look bad" instead of fundamentally rejecting the entire hate ideology.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:29 AM
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Even with that there are so many disadvantages than men face all around the world and we get called misogynists when we demand justice whereas women's issues are acknowledged and there's plenty of support given to them Also, it's the feminists who don't believe men should have the same rights as women.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:24 AM
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Yes, I'm pretty sure many men wouldn't have issues with more women being hired into fields where men are over-represented if there were efforts to hire more men into fields where women are over-represented except the feminists would never allow that.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:07 AM
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Meanwhile there are plenty of positions in fields such as childcare that will really only hire cis-female applicants yet no one seems to have an issue with that.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 04:03 AM
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Women voted for the politicians who support those wars.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 03:13 AM
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If you support Ukraine then you're part of the problem. There is no valid excuse to support that fascist infested illegitimate state.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 03:12 AM
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Yet you're still going to identify as a feminist when it's feminism pushing bullshit like this?
/r/MensRights13/10/25 03:10 AM
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Pretty sure it's all of them.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 03:05 AM
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I agree with your general point, my issue is just that we could avoid referring to feminists when not necessary. You could have made that exact same point without mentioning her. Also referring to her as a feminist "shill" rather than a full on feminist is minimising how harmful her rhetoric is. in my opinion.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:34 AM
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Unfortunatelly, feminists have already shown that they simply do not care about female victims of female perpetrators so I personally don't think that approach is going to be effective at all.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:14 AM
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This is simply not true. ALL feminists want women to be superior to men. It's a hate movement and should be recognised as such.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:09 AM
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It IS feminism that is holding men back. Trump is also a feminist (just listen to the many times he has proclaimed support for women's rights) and I'm pretty sure most people were awere of that, it's just that the other option was a lot more feminist.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:03 AM
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I'm not American and I hate both the global right and the gobal left, but saying that feminism or claims about "male privilige" haven't hurt men is so blatantly stupid and ignorant. It's feminism that supports men being sent to wars (which is happening more and more often with more countries introducing forced conscription) supports women commiting violence and SA against men and opposes circumcision bans, amongst many other things. Yes, there is economical injustice (which is often supported by…
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:00 AM
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Criticise feminism yet still quote one of the most influencial feminists in the world. Come on we should avoid doing things like that.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 04:52 AM
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And a feminist. Promoting his views on here doesn't make sense.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 04:49 AM
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Yes Exactly! He is basically also a feminist so posting his bullshit here is just stupid.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 04:44 AM
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Ok, Thank you for some of the suggestions.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 04:40 AM
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Ok, Thanks for the suggestions.
/r/MensRights05/10/25 04:55 AM
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The ADL is such an influencial hate organisation. I'm glad that there is finally at least something being done to hopefully reduce some of their influence.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:45 AM
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I mean, I can understand not wanting to have male children because they will just suffer under our feminist scoiety, but obviously the fact that some of these people will hate their own kids instead of blaming feminism is so sad to see.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:41 AM
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I realise that the overwhelming majority of today's content is like that, I was asking for something that at least isn't AS bad as the average stuff. Also, I'm not that interested in the comedy genre, Do you happen to know at least something more recent from other genres that isn't as bad as the average show today?
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:33 AM
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Ok, Thanks for the suggestion.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:29 AM
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I understand and agree with your point of view, but my issue is that just using the word "feminist" today feels a bit like white person insisting on calling black people the N-word. Many people automatically associate the word "feminist" with being told that transgender people should be unalived, that it's okay to circumcise male babues and plenty of other disgusting stuff. I myself was told by plenty of people identfying as feminist that it's okay for women to hit and sexually harrass men, that…
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:27 AM
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I agree that we should definitely do better at showing everyone that hate is not the way.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 03:02 AM
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Of course not, I was just trying to point out the obvious hypocrisy that society applies towards how it treats misandrists as opposed to misogynists.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 02:59 AM
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I think most of us can agree that we want actual equaltiy: No male-only conscription, female-on-male violence to be taken seriously, a complete ban on nonconsensual circumcision and none of this male-dominant fields having to hire more women while female-dominant fields don't have to hire more men, as well as most of the obvious disadvantages that men and boys face in society.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 07:22 AM
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I agree with you on that, but when you go to practically any feminist space you'll see WAY more misandry and often also transphobia compared to the actual misogyny that you see here yet feminism is taken seriously and supported by governments and taught in schools despite being a hate ideology. That's the main point here.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 07:17 AM
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Isn't that what most MRAs are doing already? I realise that there will always be bad actors who are going to promote those types of messeges but every single movement is going to have those. We shouldn't have to deal with being discredited solely based on the actions of a few individuals.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 07:11 AM
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Fair enough, but you do also realise that many white women could also say that they have never felt discrminated against, right?
/r/MensRights02/10/25 07:00 AM
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At least the least misandrist and least feminist then? There has to be at least some amount of modern content that manages to mostly avoid that stuff.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 06:54 AM
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There has to be at least some small amount of content that at least isn't as bad as most of the mainstream stuff.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 06:53 AM
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You’ll find less misandry in content that was released prior to around 2014 or so. I'm aware that is the case, however I was looking for finding some more newer stuff that isn't so bad.
/r/MensRights02/10/25 06:51 AM
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First of all stop fighting women here who are siding with you and trying to make peace. A lot of us do not like what modern women are doing and we speak up against them Personally I try my best to call out this type of thing when I see it on here, but from my experience it's a relatively small minority of people doing it. And I agree with you that all of us who don't want any kind of gender hate should stick together. Fighting with each other is only going to make things a million times worse.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 06:40 AM
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The issue is that both feminists and MRAs ARE in fact a monoltih -Feminists: Believe that cis women are inherrently superior to men and either deny that men are an oppressed group or actively support oppression against men, usually use false statistics to downplay violence against men and often advocate for the unaliving of trans people. -MRAs: Believe in actual gender equality and admit that there are still things that women face and generally promote an ideology of uplifting eveeryone. Also, t…
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:36 AM
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So feminist men are also the problem. I think most MRAs would agree on that.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:21 AM
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The MRA men all agree that it is wrong, it's the feminist men who can't agree on that.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:16 AM
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I would say it's mostly the fact that women are so inherrently priviliged in society that the mere mention of a movement to try and gain at least some form of justice for men and boys is immidiatelly attacked and those in power will try to ensure it never gains any siginificant traction.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:14 AM
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Maybe because being forced to fight in wars you do not want to be a party of, having barely any legal protections from violence and no protection from genital mutilation IS a form of systemic oppression?
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:08 AM
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Ok, I'm sorry if I misunderstood it then.
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:50 AM
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I was never denying that women can't get victimised or that there is always justice for female victims. I know that is not the case. And it's the feminist politicians, regardless of whether they are male or female feminists, who pass laws that specify only misogyny as being potentially punishable and thus making it more intimidating for male victims to report their female abusers. As for the invalidating of male victims, I always see both men and women doing it. It's not perpetuated by only one …
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:48 AM
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Yeah, it's excruciating as fuck having to listen to feminists constantly victim blaming male violence survivors.. They have absolutely no sense of empathy or any basic human decency.
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:26 AM
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Because it is indeed the feminists who support that. Every single feminist believes it's okay for women to touch men without consent, that it's okay for women to hit men and that female-on-male r*pe can't happen. And if some of the people perpetuating those ideas are men, it's only because they're feminist men. The gender doesn't matter here, the ideology they believe in does.
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:12 AM
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and I’m not saying they should stop doing that I know this doesn't answer your question, but I honestly think they should indeed stop doing that. All of it is just misandrist propaganda about how women can't be sexist to men, how it's okay for women to hit men and plenty of other toxic shit.
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:04 AM
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Both the right and the left believe most of these.
/r/MensRights25/09/25 06:00 AM
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Except male victims of female violence rarely ever report their abusers (I didn't either) because we're too scared of being charged with "misogyny" and even at the best case scenario we know we will most likely at least not be taken seriously because of our sex and the sex of our attacker. So it is indeed a Men's Rights issue when male victims have to deal with a system that has been stacked against them and then having to listen to those inherrently incorrect statistics. And then us male victim…
/r/MensRights25/09/25 05:54 AM
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Thank you for saying this.
/r/MensRights23/09/25 06:15 AM
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Probably J.K. Rowling just because of how much influence and how many followers she has.
/r/MensRights19/09/25 06:00 AM
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I believe that depends on whether feminism will lose at least some of its power over society, As long as feminists control the mainstream narrative, they will never allow anything that would challange the idea that only women and girls can ever be victims of sexual violence.
/r/MensRights13/09/25 07:03 AM
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I don't think anyone is denying that it should be available as an option to consenting adults. We're talking about it being forced on babies, kids and teenagers who get no choice about their own bodies.
/r/MensRights13/09/25 06:36 AM
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That doesn't really represent an overall view that for example, also talks about all the ways in which feminism hurts women too. I was hoping more of a space where we can discuss both men's and women's issues without anyone downplaying or dismissing anyone's lived experience.
/r/MensRights13/09/25 06:10 AM
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In many cases, they do.
/r/MensRights13/09/25 06:06 AM
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Couldn't we try to create a sub that wouldn't have that kind of thinking on there?
/r/MensRights08/09/25 10:03 AM
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Same thing for men perhaps?
/r/MensRights08/09/25 09:25 AM
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Both men AND women do it,
/r/MensRights04/09/25 07:32 AM
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What research is there that shows women being less likely to report their male abusers as opposed to male victims reporting their female abusers?
/r/MensRights04/09/25 07:26 AM
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YOU may want that and call yourself a feminist, however that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelimg majority of self-identified feminists DON'T want that
/r/MensRights04/09/25 07:23 AM
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YOU may want that and call yourself a feminist, however that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelimg majority of self-identified feminists DON'T want that.
/r/MensRights04/09/25 07:21 AM
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anti-feminism is necessary if we want to achieve actual equality for men and for everyone in the end.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 01:38 AM
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I don't think a lot of MRAs deny the fact that male feminists are a massive problem that stand in the way of actual gender equality. I have seen this being discussed here quite often actually.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 01:37 AM
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The few who do usually get quickly shut down by the actual feminists who promote hate and supemacist ideologies.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 01:20 AM
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Maybe because I geive an actual reason as to why they can't be trusted. There is tons of reasearch done into how men are unlikely to report their female abusers so the stats ARE going to be unreliable.
/r/MensRights30/08/25 11:45 PM
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That the men's/boy's dress code is usually a lot stricter than the women's/girls' and women/girls are usually allowed to wear plenty of things men/boys cannot.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 07:45 PM
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It is in many places. And I'm glad how you mentioned that schools also have those dress codes as you're finally admitting that men and boys aren't allowed to dress however they want.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 07:19 PM
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Women DO want to do those gritty jobs too. I understand that this is the case and the OP shouldn't have been worded like that, but it's the feminists who don't want women doing these jobs (and also don't want men to work in fields like childcare) or to make sure there is fair and equal treatment in those jobs. So the blame should be put on feminists for pushing these narratives. Feminism literally has power over so many governments in the world, if they wanted to fix those issues they already wo…
/r/MensRights29/08/25 07:10 PM
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You know that is sually not the case. You could at least admit as little as this being true if otherwise you absolutelly have to promote all the other disingenuous feminist arguments.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 06:53 PM
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All of it just how: -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same protection from violence than women in most countries in the world, Men can SA'd, r*ped and beaten and have very little means of getting justice especially if the perpetrator is female -Men don't have the same opportunities in fields such as childcare yet male-dominated fields are legally required in many countries to hire more women -Men who are Stay at home dads, H…
/r/MensRights29/08/25 06:47 PM
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both men and women have to meet the dress code implemented. Except the dress code is usually different for men and women.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 06:37 PM
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Yeah, exactly! i personally am definitelly willing to listen to women's issues and am well aware that there still injustices that women face (and I think most MRAs do as well) Yet they are completely fixated on silencing anyone who dares to talk about Men's issues.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 06:02 PM
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The women I speak with are super receptive to the plights of men. A lot of them want it to be better for men This might be YOUR experience but what I and many others have personally experienced is feminist women denying that men are oppressed, justyfying injustices against men, supporting men being sent to wars and striaght uo advocating that women should be allowed to hit men and that men should never fight back. Even for things such as how men are supposed to look, it was almost always highly-…
/r/MensRights29/08/25 05:56 PM
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Maybe because feminists such as yourself are the ones who keep denying basic facts? Men suffer from a ton of violence against them and are too scared to report their female abusers and then feminists come here and talk about how "95% of violence is done be men" even though that statistic only exiss because male victims largely don't report female abusers.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 05:28 PM
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Ok found the feminist troll.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 05:45 AM
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So is it also the duty of a woman to bear children, be a good wife and be submissive to men then?
/r/MensRights28/08/25 05:25 AM
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I understand that, and we're not saying that it's every woman's fault but rather a system that was set up that sees men as less valuable human beings.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 05:22 AM
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The majority of Reddit users are from outside of the US and by the same logic Spotify should defualt to recommending you Swedish music because it's originally a Swedish company? I bet you would lose your shit if that were the case.
/r/MensRights27/08/25 05:19 AM
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Not everyone lives in the US. At least have the decency to not practice r/USDefaultism in here.
/r/MensRights27/08/25 05:11 AM
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Equality for women would mean that female absusers and r*pists would get prosecuted the same as male ones, that women wouldn't be exempt from conscription laws and hat women would be encouraged to work in feilds such as plumbers and construction. No feminist wants that.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:26 PM
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So that's why they suppoort female abusers and r*pists, claim that "misandry doesn't kill" and support nonconsnetual circumcision then? Feminism is a hate ideology.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:22 PM
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Don't you have anything better to do than come here and spread lies?
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:16 PM
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Yes, Thank you for saying that. I also wonder whthter most of these are being written by women who have never experienced any of the injustices that men face and just dismiss all of them so that they can pretend to be on the moral high ground.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:16 PM
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Thank you for saying this, I would personally say that I dislike both the right and left NOT because I'm in the centre but because I believe that neither side has the ideas for a society that works for everyone or for a sustainable future and I just identify as an independent thinker. But, yes like you said life is more complicated than just left vs right. And I would also personally say that in many areas the left and the right are basically the same.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:00 PM
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In many countries it's the left-leaning parties who want to do that. Just adding some perspective.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 07:56 PM
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Which leftist leader hates billionaires? Because from what I see most of them worship people like Bill Gates or George Soros. The right also does the same with worshipping idiots like Elon and whoever else they think is on "their" side. Neither side really cares about Men's Rights or the working class.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 07:55 PM
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Ok, I do agree that particular line about comedians is sexist but most of the other points are perfectly valid. and also, literally every feminist perpetuates sexist views towards men on a much greater scale than this post.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:24 AM
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May I ask why do you feel that way in particular? Just curious.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:41 AM
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Not to be pushy, but you can always be an independent thinker instead of subscribing to either the left or the right. Personally, I see both of them pushing anti-male views so not supporting either of them is what I myself did.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:35 AM
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that the Right treats men as disposable both the right AND the left does.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:32 AM
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And I cant even talk about menstruation issues men say ewww and we have tk be ashamed Personally as a man I have always believed that things like those should be openly discussed and there should be no shaming around it. from my experience, it's msotly feminists who don't want to be open about anything and they always portray women as these god-like creatures who don't have any human issues or anything to talk about.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:28 AM
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I know I'm not the person you're replying to, but I think that historically men have been always expected to sacrifice themselves just as women also had plenty of expectation based on their gender, While today it's mostly feminists who still perpetuate that idea.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:22 AM
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Thank you for saying this. The fact that feminism also hurts female victims of female abusers gets ignored far too often. As for activism, unforunatelly I don't know of any specific avenues and you haven't mentioned what country you're in, but honestly have you thought about organasing a street protest? That could possibly at least bring some more attention.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 11:33 PM
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Yeah, I agree that line of thinking is bad for society overall, but I would take the female treatment any day of the week. Even with all of the negative aspects of it.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 09:05 PM
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Basically all of it, the fact that we have to fear about being drafted and sent to wars while women in most countries in the world are exempt from it, the fact that violence against men (especially when perpetrated by women) is pretty much legal and socially celebrated, the fact that it's legal to circumcise male babies whereas in most countries in the world FGM is banned and like you said the overall expectation to always be strong, be the protector and provider and be expected to sacrifice you…
/r/MensRights25/08/25 08:19 PM
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I have never seen ANY of these sentiments. Not in any blogs or pages I follow, nowhere There are plenty of self-identified feminists who believe that, There are also plenty of famous ones like J.K. Rowling who at least pushes harmful rhetoric that can absolutely end in violence. My feminism is about advocating for women living in oppressive countries, encouraging girls and women to look into higher paying, male dominated fields, sexual safety, abortion and healthcare access, reconigizing women's…
/r/MensRights24/08/25 04:21 AM
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It's not about me "wanting" to focus on online feminist spaces as much as those simply showing the actual intent of the movement. Don't you think that if feminists actually believed what you claim they do that said online spaces would actually reflect that? Are you seriously trying to argue that the overwhelming majority of users in those spaces are trolls and agitators? And it makes more sense that estabished organisations would refrain from openly admitting to supporting violence against men a…
/r/MensRights24/08/25 04:03 AM
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In your ideal world of equality, would you prefer that violence by men should NOT be talked about in terms of mental health? In that world I would want both violence by men and by women to be trwated by the same standards, regardless of the victims' gender.
/r/MensRights24/08/25 03:17 AM
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What platform (Youtube, Spotify etc.) Is that on?
/r/MensRights24/08/25 03:10 AM
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I hate that our society doesn't take woman on man assault seriously. Thank you for saying that. But men in this particular space have said some awful things to me I have also personally seen some things said here that are pretty deplorable and I definitely agree that this shouldn't be happening and I personally try to do my best to call these out, however, the sheer ammount of misandry and anti-male views pushed from the feminists is orders of magnitude greater than that. Feminists reguralry eit…
/r/MensRights24/08/25 03:07 AM
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Feel free to also DM me if you'd like.
/r/MensRights24/08/25 02:07 AM
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Can you seriously look me in the eyes (figuratively at least since this is over text) and tell me that an article like that would be worded the same if the genders here were reversed?
/r/MensRights22/08/25 06:16 AM
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Yeah, that is what I'm personally hoping is going to happen as personally, I see the constant escalation of anti-male rhetoric being the one thing that will finally get men and boys to start mass protesting all of it and the most likely way things would ever change.
/r/MensRights22/08/25 06:11 AM
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Yes, precisely! what the OP is describing sounds like some of the most anti-feminist rhetoric I've heard in a long time. Most feminists believe that women are inherrently superior to men rather than that there are no significant differences between men and women.
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:58 AM
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because I see such open resentment towards my entire gender. I'm not denying that there is some resentment towards women in this space but that is still miniscule compared to the ammount of resentment towards men and transgender people in feminist spaces. also, I was violently assaulted by a woman (from which I still have health consequences to this day) and I was too scared to report it because of the feminist system that pretty much doesn't take male victims seriously and I still don't resent …
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:55 AM
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What platform is that on?
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:43 AM
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Except when you go to pretty much any self-identified feminist space you will encounter 95%+ of the people there agreeing with all the anti-male views which means that my conclusions are hardly anecdotal but rather the core belief of the feminist movement. Also, I find it rather ironic that you're mentioning anecdotal experiences when in your last comment you had to dig so deep to find a few examples of feminists supporting male issues where if your claim that feminism is 100% about gender equal…
/r/MensRights22/08/25 05:36 AM
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Did you even read my comment? it can be pretty obvious what the context is without the OP having to necessarily say it. Cutting away parts of female genitalia on babies when deemed absolutely necessary is also legal so understanding OP's statement in that way makes the most sense.
/r/MensRights20/08/25 05:17 PM
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lol I'm also a man. With that type of rhetoric you're not much better than the feminists.
/r/MensRights20/08/25 05:12 PM
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OP has not specifically said unnecessary infant circumcision, he said all circumcision. Personally I think it can be pretty clear from the context that OP meant nonconsentual circumcision, not any form of actual consentual adult circumcision.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:54 PM
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As far as the organisations and groups actually helping men that you mentioned, these are a tiny fraction of the entire feminist movement, and there are many feminist orgs that have and still do support male-only conscription laws. As far as the women assaulting men, I guess there aren't many orgs willing to openly admit that they support violence against men but when you go to pretty much any actual feminist space they will almost all advocate for women being able to beat, SA and abuse men. Jus…
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:45 PM
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Feminism did. There are plenty of women who oppose feminism. Don't try to put it onto an entire gender.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:27 PM
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Yes I also haven't reported being asaulted by a woman as I don't see anything coming out of it.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:25 PM
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acknowledging the burdens of men does not mean I have to dismiss the burdens of women. I fully understand this, however you don't need feminism to supprt that principle as the Men's Rights Movement is about solving the issues of Men and Women as well as non-binary people. Feminism on the other hand is a toxic fascist supremacist ideology that supports abuse and violence towards men (literally every single feminist belives that women should be allowed to hit men and that men should not be able to…
/r/MensRights19/08/25 08:06 PM
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Care to elaborate? I'm not saying things in Sweden are anywhere near perfect for either gender but from what I've heard it's leaps better than most other countries in the world.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 07:24 PM
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It's still not illegal to do it in all countries in Europe as far as I'm aware so that is still something that needs changing.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:22 AM
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The only time women/girls are painted in negative light is when they're caught doing something horrible to other women/girls. Even then it is very rare for anyone to portray them in that way tbh
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:19 AM
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While I think that is true to an extent, Many women fight each other over status or high-income men and there are men looking out for each other and I think the number of men supporting each other has increased in recent history.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:17 AM
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Just curious and would be looking to have a genuine good faith argument, If you agree with what the OP is saying then why do you still promote so many at least feminist-like takes?
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:11 AM
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Again, There may have been some people who "self-identified" as feminist who did indeed support sme of those policies, However that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of self-identified feminists still support male-only conscription, violence against men (the vast majoirty of feminoists believe that women should be allowed to hit men and that men should never fight back), genital mutilation laws that only protect AFAB kids and women being hired into-male dominated roles without deman…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 11:42 PM
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It's a figure of speech and you know that. It's a fact men usually don't report their female abusers because we're oppressed by feminism so that's how you end up with all the bullshit "95% of men are violent" statistics.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 11:23 PM
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Do you really have nothing better to do than come here and post blatant lies?
/r/MensRights18/08/25 03:22 AM
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I have noticed things like those too, and I can understand that to the extent that it's possible that this sub would be banned by Reddit if certian content was not removed, but I have still seen some content that didn't seem problematic at all get removed.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 02:34 AM
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If you're only going to make either one of these then I personally think that the venting subreddit would be better.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:42 AM
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I checked it out and from what I can see there are still plenty of feminist takes on there, so what I personally think would be better is to have a space with no feminist ideology allowed rather than a male-only space (would also allow anti-feminist women to contribute which I personally believe would be beneficial to the overall discourse especially considering that most spaces that talk about women's issues are feminist and there are very few spaces where you can discuss these from an anti-fem…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:41 AM
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How would one provide data or citations for the fact that many male victims are too scared of at best not being believed or even possibly charged with something like "misogynoistic speech" (depending on the country) for trying to report their abusers (just as I was btw). Geniuenly curious.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:21 AM
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Yes exactly.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:11 AM
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Yes exactly! That's one of the main reasons many male victims don't report their female abusers as there is usually no point since getting any form of actual justice is highly unlikely.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:08 AM
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Of course no actual refutals. I like how so many of you feminists realise that you're wrong and don't have the facts on your side.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:05 AM
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I agree that those statemns are deplorable but there are so many feminist figures in the American public sphere who advocate against men having protection from abuse and having access to violence shelters, support circumcision and sending men to fight in wars which I believe is both wrong and you can be against both. Also I'm not American so sorry if I don't understand everything your legal system has but as far as the 19th amendement goes, from what I understand gives women the right to vote wi…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 01:00 AM
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Bro the fact that you're always expected to be the leader who always takes on all the responsibility is absolutely NOT privilege. Being expected to always be kept safe and having barely any societal responsibility is the real privilige. Pretending otherwise is only going to be harmful to any attempts to deconstruct gender roles.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 12:46 AM
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I agree with the general premise of what you said and I do myself see a lot of hostility towards people who are at least questioning whether they should be associated with feminism anymore and I do definitely think that we should instead try to support them and try to educate them on all the ways that their ideology has been harmful. That being said we should still make it clear that feminism is not okay and that it is a hateful ideology that hurts both men and women and should focus on helping …
/r/MensRights16/08/25 05:55 AM
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I am definitely treated as the leader, and decision maker; I do agree that this is usually the case but that is hardly a symbol of any privilege when you are the one expected to be the leader and always take on all the responsibilty and especially since society generally expects that and would usually look down upon men who would rather, for instance prefer that their female partners take on the leader role since the burden of responsibility is typically put onto men.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 04:42 AM
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Not all women are like that. I get how fucked everything is for men but these generalisations have to stop.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 04:05 AM
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Yeah, also victims (especially if they are male) don't report their female abusers and violent offenders anywhere as oftem as male ones.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 04:03 AM
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Imagine how the statisctic for women offenders would look like if people actually reported the violent crimes committed by women and if women hitting men was actually considered serious rather than celebrated. Also not everyone is American.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 04:01 AM
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Thank you for saying this. It just shows how men really have no avenue for advocating for basic human rights since pretty much the entire political spectrum is anti-male and based on denying the injustices that men face.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 03:58 AM
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I'm not denying that these do get perpetuated a lot but the amount of misandry and anti-male content is so much higher in comparison and it's almost everywhere including in the media, schools, the political system in many countries in the world and deeply ingrained in the mainstream culture. I'm sorry that you have to listen to some of that shit (trust me as a man I got told what to do and what is socially acceptable for me my entire life) but the amount of misandry is generally far greater.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 03:21 AM
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i'm so sorry to hear that, As someone who was violently assaulted by a woman and still suffering from the consequences of that and being too scared to even report it because of how anti-male the entire justice system is at least where I live I can feel for you. I hope that you will be able to have plenty of people around you who will truly support you. I wish you all the best.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 06:51 AM
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Yeah, thank you for saying this. I notice this so much myself with how so many of them do not really care about solving actual women's issues but rather just attack men and actively advocate for violence against trans people.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 06:40 AM
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Because - based on most feminists' actions - they are in fact trying to create a supermacist society where only cis-female individuals have human rights and others get forced to fight in wars, have no protection from violence, get their genitals mutilated and will get silenced for speaking out. Also I do want equality Again, YOU may want eqaulity, but the vast majority of people who label themselves as feminist advocate for things like abuse support, shelters and the entire justice system to onl…
/r/MensRights14/08/25 06:00 AM
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Yeah, that's how I feel as well, from what I reguralry see, most feminists don't even really care about actual women's issues. They just want to downplay or even deny that there are any injustices happening towards men and sometimes straight up advocate for the oppression of men as well as constantly perpetuate claims such as "95% of violent criminals are men" which only exists because male victims rarely ever report when they are abused or assaulted by women. It does indeed make me wonder how m…
/r/MensRights14/08/25 05:34 AM
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You're such a great parent for doing that.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 05:28 AM
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Do you have any sources that show that clitoral hood removal isn't considered a form of FGM? Because I'm pretty sure I saw it being reffered to as such, at least for the cases done in Indonesia.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 05:25 AM
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I'm pretty much certain there would be way more female offenders in prison if society took male victims seriously. Except that would have to challange the feminist view that it's only men who are violent and never women and that would threaten the position of power they currently hold in society.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 05:20 AM
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Yeah exactly! I feel like this is the reality that many people and especially feminists fail to recognise when talking about how "there is totally support for male victims" That simply isn't true.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 05:15 AM
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You can fight for rights without being a feminist.
/r/MensRights13/08/25 03:11 AM
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If I may add to this, The one issue I see with the definition of "there are many different types of feminists" is that it seems like saying that there are many different types of white supermacists and then stating that some white supermacists are also fighting for racial minorities as well. If you truly want equality why would you still use that word and not just call yourself a Men's Rights Activist then?
/r/MensRights13/08/25 03:05 AM
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Yeah I get that, there is something highly infuriating about being oppressed and hearing - especially from women who in most countries have more rights than men - how you're privileged and you're the one oppressing women. All of that, however has taught me to try and be a better white European. I now realise how I have taken a lot of my status for granted and how that can impact so many people around me. It has definitely been eye opening.
/r/MensRights13/08/25 03:01 AM
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Maybe we don't have those statistics because mosrt male victims (myself included) don't report theier female assaiants, r*pists and abusers so of course the statiscis aren't going to count those. We don't have the right not to get drafted into the millitary, that alone is one of the biggest injustice men face worldwide We also usually have to accept women being hored into male-dominant positions due to all kinds of inclusivity laws in many countries in the world whereas most female-dominant role…
/r/MensRights13/08/25 02:57 AM
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I'm sorry it took so long to reply as I didn't have a lot of time but to answer your question - I believe that the main issue is that misandry and dismissing issues that men face and as well as violence against men is promoted by the media, most governments around the world as well as in society in general which makes that side so much more amplified and prevents any voices that might try to actually speak out to solve issues people of either gender face. if it was just the fringes arguing that …
/r/MensRights10/08/25 04:42 AM
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Oh, ok, thanks for making that clear.
/r/MensRights09/08/25 05:30 PM
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they don't truly care about women's rights or any type of political or social issues. That's my view as a male MRA as well, from what I see most feminists don't really care about actual women's issues (let alone overall social justice or anything) they just want to support the oppression of men and boys, deny that male issues are real and especially try to promote the idea that women beating men is okay.
/r/MensRights09/08/25 05:28 PM
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Not to be pushy, but why do you identify as a feminist if you feel that way about them? Geniuenly curious.
/r/MensRights09/08/25 05:22 PM
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Sorry for taking this long to reply but I didn't have a lot of time, however to answer your question - just the acknowledgement that these issues are real and need to be taken care of would be the basic start in my opinion. one of the hardest thimgs about living through all of the male disadvantages is the fact that we constantly have to listen to how these are all invalid and how "women have it harder" and the like, Especially as a victim of a violent assault from a woman and having to comstant…
/r/MensRights09/08/25 05:11 PM
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I don't know if you're still going to be reading comments now, but I personally believe that most people on here do want exactly that (also please let's establish that men and women = gender whereas feminism and men's rights = ideologies) I myself do believe that it would be possible to build a gender equal society and I realise that there are still some things that women face that need to be fixed, however like you said making sacrificies is what I believe many people won't want to do, Especial…
/r/MensRights07/08/25 05:31 AM
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fair enough, I was just making a suggestion based on what I thaught could seem appropriate. Thanks for replying.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:59 AM
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I personally believe that we can have just one movement to lift both up, especially since things like violence and SA affect both genders.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:57 AM
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I don't know if you're still going to read the repliesnow but here are just a few things: -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same protection from violence than women in most countries in the world, Men can SA'd, r*ped and beaten and have very little means of getting justice especially if the perpetrator is female -Men don't have the same opportunities in fields such as childcare yet male-dominated fields are legally required …
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:54 AM
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Yes, there are issues where women have it worse but overall men usually have more issues and the fact that these are usually ignored and downplayed makes it that much worse.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:39 AM
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Feminists never want to argue in good faith. I personally wouldn't bother entertaining people like that.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:34 AM
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That depends on the country/jurdistiction. there are currently around 60 countries where only men get drafted and there are no plans to change that. Some of these even reguralry make it into all these "most gender equal countries" type of lists.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:32 AM
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Well, that is exactly my point, most women who oppose feminism get silenced by the media and the political system so blaming women as a group when many of them do in fact oppose feminism is wrong.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:28 AM
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for starters the fact that so many people who believe those ideas call theselves feminists should be enough to establish a certain level of conclusion that it is in fact what most feminists stand for. And also it's literally left wing politicians who usually support pro-war views. I don't know where you live but in many countries the left and progressive parties are the ones who support men being forced into the millitary. and it is feminists who think it is ok to hit men. it's them who perpetua…
/r/MensRights02/08/25 01:44 AM
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Personally I believe that the Men's Rights Movement is trying to do just that i.e. solve all gender-based issues for both men and women (the reason it's called the men's rights movement is because it was historically started by men and NOT because it's only by men or only for men or only about men) We can all try to uplift one another and try to solve everyone's issues. You don't have to label yourself if you don't want to but I personally think that having a label that identifies what you stand…
/r/MensRights02/08/25 01:12 AM
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You do realise that there are plenty of women who support men having equal rights except they often get silenced even more than male MRAs, right?
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:56 PM
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While I agree with your general sentiment, asking for a male and trans inclusive feminism would be like askimg for an anti-racist white supremacy movement. Feminism is in itself an anti-male transphobic hate ideology, we shoud just replace it with the Men's Rights ideology that should be for equality for everyone. And also, how you refer to the country without considering that there is an entire world beyond the US is somewhat disrespectful. Let's not practice r/USDefaultism on here.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:50 PM
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Except there are plenty of women who do oppose the anti-male laws and cultural principles.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:40 PM
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Except most people who support men being sent to wars, support men being beaten by women (even as much as calling it empowering) as well as support circumcising babies call themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 11:38 PM
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Men aren't always stronger or bigger than women, stop perpetuating this bullshit here.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 04:03 PM
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No problem.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 03:54 PM
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I literally listed all the ways in which men are oppressed yet you're the one who is making this about dating. I'm not currently dating and do not want to. The sooner you realise how harmful people like you are the sooner we can work towards improving society for the better.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 02:07 AM
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Well yeah that's my pont as well, I'm definitely NOT trying to deny that women face plenty of violence but at least they don't have to constantly listen to how they deserve it or how it's a non-issue from the media, politicians and many places online.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:28 AM
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Thank you for saying that. 💙
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:11 AM
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Thank you for saying this, I know I'm not the OP and I'm not trying to make this thread about myself but the amount of times I have seen the idea pushed around that it's 95% men who commit violence even though that statistic only exists because most men don't report their assault is so aggrivating.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 12:56 AM
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I'm sorry but who mentioned feminists here?
/r/MensRights29/07/25 12:28 AM
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According to the data I've seen most Redditors are NOT actually from the US.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:55 PM
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No we absolutely do NOT want a return to traditionalism and I agree with you on your view on this 2.The issue with this is that so many female perpetrators don't get reported for violent crimes that the statistics ARE going to be inherrently false. Mne also aren't always stronger than women. 3.I'm not sure what particular issues are you referring to but if we want men to have equal rights then we have to e.g. take the right to hit men away from women. 4.I don't agee with that and I don't think m…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:42 PM
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I agree with that and I was not actually trying to start an argument but rather just see some actual examples as I myself have not seen many.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:37 PM
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Care to show some examples?
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:30 PM
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Because we should be better than that fascist movement.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:27 PM
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You're the one who just made some blantantly false statements about men having rights and still claim that society was built for men. I'd gladly swap my right to vote and own property for a gurantee to never be forced into the millitary. The fact that you can't even respond to all the points made shows that you're just an arrogant prick who has to rub their nose into the people that you oppress.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:23 PM
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Yeah, it's insane how we have to deal with bullshit takes like those when women have been insanely privileged and protected and shielded from harm for almost the entirity of history yet feminists still have to come on here and post straight up lies when men suffer each and every day.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:06 PM
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Men are litwerally being forced to fight in wars right now, this is not something that was abolsihed years ago. and it is obviously a rights issue when men have to go to wars because of their sex. And the sole rerason for the men commiting 95% of violence statistic is because most female perpetarors never get reported. Women are pretty much legally allowed to hit men. that's something that men don't have. There are laws in most countries banning female genital mutilation where male genital mutil…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 11:04 PM
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I'm not necessarily talking about the film itself, however you might view it, but rather the fact that she was willing to publicly criritcise what one of the film's creators (at least if I'm not mistaken) labeled as a "feminist film", where usually in the current society even the slightest form of criticising feminism can get you potentionally cancelled.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 01:30 AM
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No we did not and do not currently have rights, Men were forced to fight in wars they never wanted to be a pat of and still are in many countries to this day, men also have barely any protection from violence with the justice system in many countries in the world only providing support for women and girls and male genital mutilation is legal in almost every country in the world where female genital mutilation is banned or at least heavily restricted in the vast majority so no, we do not have bod…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 01:08 AM
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To be objective - I have personally seen a few truly sexist takes on here lately, some even getting a few upvotes, while that is still definitely a small minority of the discourse here they should definitely be called out.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 12:56 AM
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To be objective - I have seen a few truly sexist takes on here, some even with a few upvotes, even stating things such as "women are stupid" (which itself is often used by feminists in order to try to absolve women of any accountabilty) so we should definitely do as much as possible to call these out.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 12:51 AM
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While, Yes I have seen some actually sexist bullshit posted on this sub - and we should absolutely do as much as possible to call these out and denouncing that type of behaviour - the vast majority of content on here is actually advocating for equality for everyone. And while there are injustices women face because of their sex it's an objective fact that women do have it easier simply because of the fact that their problems are actually acknowledged by society so people saying that on here is p…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 12:46 AM
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Thought I fear that this sub general consensus is not the same, it is full of tradcons with the "men should be manly, go to war, sacrifice for women and..." From my personal experience it's the exact oppsite, most of us here are fighting against that type of thinking and it's mostly in feminist spaces where people say things like "Oh men want to be providers and sacrifice themselves and do all the manly things" etc. and I also saw takes similar to "if men want to wear dresses and long hair why d…
/r/MensRights27/07/25 03:15 AM
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Also, Can we please stop perpetuating this idea that all men are physically stroner than women? it is simply not true. I myself was assaulted by a woman who was clearly much stronger than me and I still have medical consequences from that. We need to be more vocal about this if we want to change things for the better.
/r/MensRights27/07/25 02:56 AM
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In an ideal world? In any society that has at least the most basic ammount of respect towards human beings such sexist standards would have never been allowed. Honestly, this is such an easy problem to solve with merely passing legislation to make this type of discrimination illegal in all places yet the feminists would never support that.
/r/MensRights27/07/25 02:50 AM
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Didn't he turn to saying some pretty feminist takes later on?
/r/MensRights27/07/25 02:42 AM
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Ok, Thanks for the reply.
/r/MensRights27/07/25 02:39 AM
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In my opinion, some of these do to an extent, I was thinking even more famous than most of these (other than Ryan Reynolds and Brad Pitt who are obviously very famous) and even more involved, but thanks for that list.
/r/MensRights27/07/25 02:37 AM
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Why do you think there are almost no feminist subs that have light moderation and those that do tend to die off really fast? Maybe because the entrie feminist ideology is based on perpetuating a completely alternate universe worldview based on lies and blatantly false narratives, so the less moderated subreddits would have people coming in and destroying their narrtive with actual facts, so yes, they have to introduce strong moderation in order to be able to continue to play pretend in their fan…
/r/MensRights25/07/25 05:33 PM
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It was literally the one that you mentioned, and yes they obviously have to be heavily moderated if they want to perpetuate a pretty much alternate universe worldview with completely false narratives, stright-up lies and revisionist history so people stating actual facts on places like these would obviously dismantle the delusion.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 05:16 PM
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the last time I went to the askfeminist sub it was a complete echo chamber with everyone parroting the feminist talking points. Don't know what you are talking about with that.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:47 PM
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but We LiVe In A pAtRiArChY!!!!!
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:44 PM
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I don't have that much experience in feminist subreddits but from what I know most will usually ban you if you just ever so slightly veer off the only allowed way of thinking on there.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:39 PM
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Care to show some examples?
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:35 PM
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My main issue isn't even that, but that there are plenty of women who have been violent to and beaten their male partners yet society only cares about the female victims and male perpatrators.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 09:46 PM
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Thanks for the reply, not to sound overbearing but I taught that the Philippines was pretty feminist, isn't it? anyway I'm glad for you if you're happy there.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 09:35 PM
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I know that asking this on Reddit is not usually appriciated, but if I may ask where do you live currently (at least the general area) and how does it compare to Australia? Feel free to just ignore my comment if you don't want to answer.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 04:14 AM
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Yes, there are some injustices that women face because of their sex (especially in many non-western countires) and of course I care about both genders. What's your point?
/r/MensRights23/07/25 04:00 AM
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Men ARE oppressed, men being forced to fight in wars they do not want to be a part of, hiving basically no protection from violence and genital mutilation as well as fewer opportunities in fields such as childcare, amongst many other things IS oppression.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:56 AM
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Yes, Exactly!
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:51 AM
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Because it's possible to both acknowledge the inequalities faced by men in some areas and the inequalities faced by women in other areas. Except you can just be a MRA and support this princicple. The Men's Rights Movement is also about women's issues and equality for everyone.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:51 AM
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Being a MRA and a feminist at the same time would be like supporting BLM and being a white supremacist at the same time.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:48 AM
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We have to shit on feminism if we want men to achieve equal rights, just as fighting against white supremacy is necessary to achive racial justice.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:44 AM
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I understand some of your points, and to start I want to make it clear that I said "women at scale" NOT "the majority of women" I do not know how many women are feminists as compared to anti-feminists as most data around this are from polls where the respondent can often interpret the question of what the term "feminist" means vey differently, so I don't think we can be completely sure how many women support which ideology. howeveer my main point with that was the idea that 99% of women are femi…
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:42 AM
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Except there is a sizeable population of women who do indeed support the Men's Rights ideology, it's just that you'll never see them in the media or in the public sphere as they often get silenced too just like male MRAs.
/r/MensRights23/07/25 03:14 AM
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While I get your point and it is true that men who speak out against feminism usually suffer a wrose fate than women, female anti-feminists usually still get silenced often as much as male ones, still risk losing their careers and even facing threats or violence (just like you mentioned with the Erin Pizzey example) and the claim that women at scale don't care about equality is just false. especially considering that there are plenty of women who themselves have been hurt by feminism(such as ign…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:51 PM
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The claim that there are zero women fighting for equality is blatantly false.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:56 PM
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The parent comment did indeed raise some important points, but like you said language IS really importnant. This casual misuse of the term feminist and labeling every single woman as a feminist (even when there are plenty of cases where feminism hurts women too such as ignoring female abuse of female victims or telling women who want to say work more physical jobs or do more physical tasks that they shouldn't) is a major problem that many people on here simply refuse to acknowledge. We have to d…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:54 PM
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Thank you for saying this! it's improtant to make the distinction between feminists and women. and I'm also personally tired of the people who lump feminists and women together and I think you absolutely have every right to be mad about that and I'm sorry that you have to deal with that.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:47 PM
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I don't think anyone is denying that housework is important, it's that the feminists claim that "men don't do enough housework" when they're the ones expected to do all the physically demanding tasks.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:44 PM
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My main issue with that is that most feminist women would never be willing to switch these roles, and it's not necessaarily just fixing things, but also often things such as mowing the lawn if there is one in the household.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:12 PM
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Not trying to discard your expereince, but for many men it's the exact opposite - going even as far as being harrssed in public for being a primary caretaker to a child.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:10 PM
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I understand that, my point is that men are often left with doing the maintanance/technical tasks and most feminists don't want men to be doing caring work and often themselves advocate for the system where men do the maintanance/technical work and women the cleaning/cooking/childcare all while complaining that men aren;t doing as much.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:08 PM
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I think the main issue with these is that these studies usually do not take into account the tasks that are mostly performed by men and that feminists don't want women to do. When you only take into account things such as cleaning, cooking, laundry and taking care of children and not count things such as various repairs and maintanance you will end up with skewed results.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 05:28 AM
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It's not always necessarily caring about what others think but rather many people often get harrassed for wanting to be single.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 04:58 AM
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Maybe that was just those particular people. There are plenty of women who would reply "no" when being asked if they are feminists.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 04:52 AM
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Well, I think just the fact that so many people and instituions deny that it actually exists IS the worst thing about misandry. With all of the injustices that women face, there is at least international acknowledgement of these issues whereas if men are being forced to fight in wars that they do not want to be a part of, face violence and have their genital mutiliated it is often celebrated or laughed at which is in my opinion one of the most dehumanising things about it.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 04:15 AM
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Thank you for caring about this. The big problem aroumd this is that many feminists not only deny that men and boys can be SA'd or r*ped but also often even fully advocate for violence against men and say things such as "don't hit women" implying that violence against men is okay. Another thing is that the lack of support and the fact that female perpetrators of violence against men are rarely ever prosecuted in most countries in the world which means that few of the male victims report their es…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:53 AM
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I agree with you on improving this space and ridding it of all the actually sexist conetent, as well as talking more about women's issues, however, proclaiming that feminists and us should be become firends is like saying BLM and white supermcaists should become friends. We want two completely different things, feminists (again making it clear that the words feminist and woman have two completely different meanings and many women oppose feminism and support actual equality) want a fascist societ…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:40 AM
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Pretty much agree, I think one very important point to make while describing these issues - even though you said the list goes on but I believe this to be particullary important - is that men and boys are often treated like they can't be hurt or that they don't need any protection or that they can't be vulnurable, which in turn causes plenty of harm.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:26 AM
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We as a group believe that men, women and everyone beyoind the gender binary should have equal rights and opportunities, so if you believe in that you're pretty much automatically a Men's Rights Activist (some people ike to use the word "egalitarian" which is basically the same thing) The main reason why most of us do not associate with feminists is because most of them either ignore, downplay or usually actively support discrimination against men and boys, particullary in regards to violence co…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:13 AM
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I agree with that, what I said is that feminists don't want actual equality and that a distinction between women and feminists needs to be made, the comment you're referring to was definitely sexist and yes, there are some sexist takes on here so we should do our best to call them out.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:56 AM
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It is for women having the right to beat, assualt and SA men with nio consequences, we have to fight against women's rights movements if we want to acheive equality.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:52 AM
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Except many women are perfectly capable of commiting physical abuse to men, whatever the "avegare" man or woman is capable of is pretty irrelevant when you're on the receiving end of violence from someone much stronger than you and you usually get no protection or justice from the legal system because of your and their sex.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 01:28 AM
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Yeah, I don't normally like to talk about other users on other posts, but that particular post that you speak of is a prime example of how that rhetoric pushes false narratives and mainly hides the fact that most people who label themselves as feminist either ignore or downplay the injustices that men face or straight up actively advocate for violence against men And for what it's worth I do actually believe that person might actually have good intentions but the fact that when they were present…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 01:20 AM
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I think the entire point of this post is that most of us agree that there are still some injustices that women face because of their sex, but considering the current state of global affairs where so many men are being forced into wars they do not want to be a part of, get beaten, SA'd and r*ped usually with no means to get justice or any meaningful level of protection from said violence, get their genitals mutlated as well as a ton of other injustices and then often being silenced when they try …
/r/MensRights20/07/25 12:45 AM
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To be clear, saying that feminist women want that is perfectly accurate, it's labeling every woman as a feminist that is the issue, there are plenty of women who oppose feminism and want actual equality instead where both men's and women's issues get adequately addressed and that's what should be made clear.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 12:15 AM
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Women can pretty much legally hit and beat men usually with no reprecussions as well as in pretty much any situation men can be pretty much assualted or abused with almost no reprecussion for the perpetrator., the legal system in most countires is designed to only serve justice to female victims of violence. And in many places around the world DV shelters, and support groups are female-only.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 04:33 PM
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I agree, Yes women are indeed way more priviliged than men in most areas of society in most countries in the world but there is still a number of injustices women face because of their sex and using mockery terms like these does dismiss and invalidate that.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 04:26 PM
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Yes, a few actually misogynistic comments do actually get posted on here (which I definitelly agree shouldn't happen) but there are WAY more misandrist and transphobic comments in feminist spaces to the point it's not even comparable.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 04:23 PM
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I think MRAs should also talk about women's issues as we should seek to be an alternative to the hateful feminist ideology by offering ideas for actual progress and also helping uplift women and advocate to solve women's issues too.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 04:19 PM
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Yes exactly! Maybe with a tiny number of exceptions that entire subreddit (much like pretty much the entire feminist movement) is based on perpetuating the idea that women are universally the victims of the supposed "patriarchal system" and that women therefore never need to take any accountability for their actions as they are supposedly merely fighting against their oprression and that gives them a right to do whatever they want.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 03:57 PM
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Honestly, I believe that there are probably many women who wouldn't support feminism if it wasn't pushed everywhere, especially in the media and the education system. There are probably plenty of women who truly have no idea what life is like for men and all they belive is what they have heard from these sources (to be clear I'm not denying that there are plenty of malicious feminist women who only want power and realise that men have it worse in most aspects). Feminist ideology can be so easily…
/r/MensRights19/07/25 03:45 PM
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Not only have many things shifted, but also women were the ones who were advantaged in many ways - at least in many countries in the world - such as never being forced to fight in wars or always being provided for.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 03:38 PM
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So only men being legally forced into the millitary or having basically no protection from violence isn't gender inequality for men from a legal standpoint? Feminist ideology can be so easily debunked with actual facts that's it's so pathetic for poeple to be coming here and and promoting it.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 03:35 PM
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there's plenty of support for lgbt issues as well as plenty of progressive thinking in here.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:25 AM
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I just want to know what in your mind, I can do to stand up for men’s rights? I know I'm not the OP, but in my view even if you just openly advocate for equality for everyone whenever possible, I think simply mentioning that you support men and women actually having equal rights can go a long way as far as what an individual can do. Also, I don't know how engaged you are in any groups or activism but if you are, then again even talking about men's issues can help Also, whenever you come accross …
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:07 AM
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I don't know what kind of exact points are they making but if they ever bring up r*pe, violence or SA being more likely to happen to a woman I would counter with 1) the statistics around violence and r*pe and SA are going to be inherrently incorrect due to how few male victims report it especially when a female perpetrator is involved, so we don't know how many male victims or female perpetrators there are really and 2) the main point is that even if women were more likely to be victims, the iss…
/r/MensRights18/07/25 02:53 AM
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Yeah, it sucks that there are probably plenty of women who feel the same way except you'll never hear that point of view from the media or usually anywhere in the public sphere. Not having your voice heard sucks.
/r/MensRights16/07/25 09:45 PM
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Thank you for saying this, I think this doesn't get mentioned enough, Plently of women don't want to be treated like toddlers and there's plenty of other ways this rhetoric harms women too such as not holding female abusers of female victims accountable, women who want to either work more physical jobs like plumbing or just do similar tasks at home being told that they shoudn't and the fact that it pretty much completely takes away a woman's individual personality, needs and struggles when women…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 03:49 PM
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Not denying that.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 02:38 PM
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Yeah, I know, I don't think many of these people realise how harmful it is to push those narratives when there are so many male victims of violence, like saying that men are pretty much automatically considered a "threat" despite being the victim so many times. Also, I think most people on here would agree that there are still some injustices that women face, it's that men objectively have it worse in most countires in the world. You can still advocate for women's issues without denying the fact…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 02:36 PM
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So men being exluded from violence protections is because of "misogyny"? The fact that you have to push this victim blaming bullshit while living in a world where almost everything is done for your benefit because of your sex is so pathetic that any additional discussion is pointles, I just hope that maybe one day you'll realise how you're hurting both men and women with your delusional ideology.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 02:08 PM
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Yeah, it's so annoying having to deal with feminists coming in here and proclaiming their bullshit. Men are literally being forced to fight in wars they do not want to be a part of, get beaten, SA'd and r*ped by women and often get their genitals legally mutilated yet there are female feminists coming here (all while pretty much the enitre media already works as their echo chamber) who live in their priviliged bubble and try to talk about how "women have it worse" or "it's men who are priviliged…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 04:01 AM
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Which is why I was hoping to get a list or something backed by research, but thanks for replying anyway.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 03:48 AM
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Yeah, this shit worries me too, I live in Europe and there are plently of attempts to restrict online freedom and even things like attempts to ban encryption, so people should speak out and protest against this as much as possible, If the law you're talking about does actually get implemented people should still be able to use VPNs to appear as they're from a different country than Australia to the platform they're accessing and that should be at least some workaround, or use onion websites. Eit…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 02:44 AM
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small number of countries? you can't be serious with that, there are over 60 countries where men get forced into the millitary because of their sex and it's often women who vote for pro-war politicians (such as Kamala Harris in the US) when they have an exception from being drafted 230 million girls and women are a victim of female genital mutilation compared to 39% of the male population Where did you get that data? I have sen pretty diffwerent numbers so having a source here would help Men are…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 01:53 AM
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So you and your sister agree, that's such a small sample that I can't beilieve you're trying to be serious with that argument, When I was growing up there were tons of activities that were only for girls that I would have loved to take part of yet according to people like you we always have to do girls and women = disadvantaged of course.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 01:41 AM
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You privileged piece of shit, The "patriarchy" doesn't exist, and it's women who have been priviliged for the most part of history in the most parts of the world, Women were never forced into the millitary where men in many countries in the world today still do, Wome can beat men with usually no repercussions, Female babies have protection from genital cutting in most countries where male ones don't and the list could go on, and now we have to deal with feminist organisations and the women's rig…
/r/MensRights15/07/25 01:18 AM
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Don't Thailand and Cambodia force Men into the millitary or is that not true? Also, from what I've heard Spain has some pretty anti-male laws especially around men getting any sort of protection from violence and things like only men being able to be charged with gender-based violence and such. I don't know whether that is completely accurate but that's why I was asking for a researched list as I wanted to have a more comprehensive view with sources to back it up.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 12:52 AM
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I'm not sure if you mean to throw them into the worst positions since the top of the list would generally be for the best and the UK and Australia as well as countries such as the US and Canada are objectively some of the worst at least culturally and most also have pretty anti-male laws.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 12:42 AM
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I do not have any kids myself but I do worry about this for the sake of the children in my extended family, I legitimately worry about what the future is going to be like with society going the way it is.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 09:25 PM
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Yeah, I think that's one thing that many people don't realise how feminism also hurts women and girls with not holding female abusers and violent perpetrators accountable for their actions.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 09:21 PM
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Fine, then at least compare the legal systems.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:03 PM
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That would be a great idea IMHO, I don't know if anyone invested into Men's Rights advocacy has the capacity and would be willing to participate in this.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:02 PM
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Yes, I do realise that things can always change for the worse but I still think it would be a valuable resource to compile a list that could be updated periodically.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:00 PM
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Yes, That's also what I thought about, I meant ALL relevant laws and policies that impact men.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 07:58 PM
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Expect men objectively have more problems than women.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:24 PM
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we got to do WAY cooler stuff than the girls did WAY cooler from your point of view.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:16 PM
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I understand that they're still the small minority, it's just that I saw a few of those the past few days and some even had a few upvotes with no one calling them out, so I could still see why someone could be made to feel that way.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:12 PM
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Maybe because facts show that men do infact have it worse than women -Men in many countries in the world get forced into the millitary because they're men -Men don't have the same protection from violence than women in most countries in the world, Men can SA'd, r*ped and beaten and have very little means of getting justice especially if the perpetrator is female -Men don't have the same opportunities in fields such as childcare yet male-dominated fields are legally required in many countries to …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:01 PM
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To be honest I do see a few comments on here generalising women and some going even as far as saying things such as "women are stupid" which is obviosly not anything based on facts (and often even used by feminists as an excuse to absolve women of any responsibility from their actions) So we should try to call these out as much as possible.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 08:43 PM
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My main issue with this is that the facts objectively prove that men do in fact have it worse in most countries in the world.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:52 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, What country or at least what part of the world did that happen in?
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:48 PM
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Feminism is literally a supermacist ideology designed to take rights from anyone who isn't a white cis-female. I wish people would stop pushing it here.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:19 AM
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Both the right and the left do that shit.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:11 AM
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I do agree with you that the entire system is broken, However fist of all we need to make the distinction clear that woman is not the same as feminist, There are plenty of women who oppose feminism and there are also plenty of male feminists so being mad at feminism (while being perfectly clear that not all women are feminists) is completely justifiable in my opinion. second of all, I myself as well as plently of other MRAs do actively call out male feminists including the rich assholes, politic…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 07:09 AM
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I'm so sorry about what has happened to you, I know full well what's it like being told all the time that men can't be assaulted. I hope for all the best for you and hope that you will eventually be able to find support, maybe even get justice for what happened, as unikely as male victims getting justice may be. The ongoing stigma that since men are physically stronger than women that it means they can’t be taken advantage of. I think it needs to be made clear that any particular man isn't autom…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 06:48 AM
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I think this is such a bullshit position considering men are the ones who are way more opressed then women in most contexts and in most places around the world yet men don't get the same leeway if they ever say that they hate women because they're frustrated at their opression.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 06:29 AM
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While I do agree that there is an issue about posts and comments on this subreddit generalising women, I still see the majority of the content here avoid such conduct, and I personally always downvote those who do post that crap and I also sometimes reply and try to challange those views. With that being said, the sheer amont of misandrist content in not only feminist spaces but almost everywhere online today as well as in places like the media, in schools, and in mainstream culture overall is s…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 05:35 AM
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I think it's important to note that there are many MRAs outside of Reddit or those who simply do not post in here or did not join this subreddit. There are also inevitebly going to be plently of people who essentially believe in the Men's Rights Ideology but still identify as feminists either because they truly believe that feminism is about gender equality or because they do not want to be seen associated with what they may think would be deemed far-right or a hate group. So trying to determine…
/r/MensRights12/07/25 05:11 AM
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Your experience kind of shows that there are probably plently of women who don't fully realise what men go through on a day-to-day basis and just rely on what they've been told in schools, in the media or just how the mainstream culture portrays everything and if they knew what it was really like they would actually support gender equality for everyone at least to some extent.
/r/MensRights12/07/25 04:11 AM
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Yeah, I'm not planning on ever having kids but I also can't imagine putting a boy into this world only for him to suffer every day. I feel happy for your daughter.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 03:50 AM
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The main issue however is that feminists control the political systems in most countries and constantly push anti-male laws.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 03:27 AM
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Yeah but FeMiNiSm Is AbOuT eQuAlItY
/r/MensRights10/07/25 03:20 AM
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Would be a good idea to try and start some.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 08:56 AM
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Yes it is, but it's million times harder for men in most countries in the world.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 08:52 AM
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Again, I think it should be made clear that what we're referring to with that is feminist women who claim that they know that women have it harder and that they can absolutely understand what it's like to be a man and that they therefore know that men supposedly have it easier. Most of us are well awere that many women do not actually belive that and that many do understand that they don't know what's it like to be male.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 08:44 AM
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Honestly, I don't personally believe they will EVER be happy, not even at that point.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 01:38 PM
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Yeah, it honestly makes me anguished that things can be so bad for men as they currently are in the UK yet that is still not the worst than what many men around the world experience.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 01:35 PM
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Wome have historically had a ton of indirect power.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 06:05 AM
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I think that would be a great idea, I could see myself participating there as well.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 06:00 AM
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I'm not saying you or anyone in particular should be looking for anyone, just that there are many women who oppose feminism but you just usually won't hear about them, so making blanket statements just puts you on the feminist's level.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 05:50 AM
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I underrstand your point of view, but I think I can also relate to some of what OP said, like for me, I have always wanted to be born female because of not having to deal with all the disadavantages of being male, even when I was a kid I would often longingly dream of waking up a girl the next morning because of those disadvantages, so I still believe that some of what OP said, including the things about desperately wanting to be female can potentially be attributed to misandry. And I do realise…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 05:45 AM
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look, I agree with most of your anti-feminism but saying that "All Women" want that is sexist and this is being just as bad as the feminists.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:16 AM
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I agree that it's often used as an excuse for shitty behaviour but also often used to excuse misandry, such as when it's used in response to raising a concern about something men or boys suffer from and put the blame on victms. Overal I think we shouldn't use that phrase as it's almost always used to excuse shitty behaviour.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:13 AM
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Honestly I can't tell you that you won't have any troubles from your activism (you probably will) However, I think we need as much activism as possible, So in short, Yes, you will have to prepare for strong backlash but I personally believe that anyone speaking up provides huge value to male advocacy, so in the end it's up to you what you want to do but I think it'll be great to have more people speaking out!
/r/MensRights06/07/25 03:04 AM
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1 No 2 very rarely 3 No 4a Don't live in the United States and am not a US citizen but I have grown up in a country that had mandatory millitary service until I was an older kid and I definitely still don't have an exception from being drafted like women do in most countries in the world 4b No 5a No 5b No 5c. There is no death penalty where I live and this would depend on the country/jurdistiction 6 Being single, not really, but there is an expectation of me being the main provider if I weren't …
/r/MensRights06/07/25 02:54 AM
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BOTH Men and women have allowed this to happen.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 02:50 AM
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First of all, These people ARE male feminists, I think we need to make that clear, but I do agree with you that we need to start calling out male feminists more rigorously.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 02:47 AM
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So they are now finally fully admiting that the feminist ideology is misogynistic, Thanks.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 02:33 AM
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You even went as far as to say you hate having a penis and wish you were born a girl Most men don't feel this way. I know I'm not the OP and I don't want to hijack this thread, but I personally can understand this a bit as I myself don't mind having a penis but I wish I was born female so I could have all the protections, advantages and opportunities (such as working in childcare etc.) that girls and women get in society, so I can understand someone who doesn't necessarily have gender dysphoria …
/r/MensRights06/07/25 12:54 AM
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A woman on her own cannot harm a man physically That's such a stupid claim to make. A woman can absolutely physically harm a man.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 06:42 AM
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Yeah definitely, I think this misconception that all women are somehow united (or that they all support feminism which is just blatantly false) gets perpetuated so much that there has been this false image created around female unity that so many people believe.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 06:38 AM
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All women agreeing with feminism is NOT true at all, there are plenty of women who oppose feminism, you just won't see them anywhere in the media or in the public space.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 06:30 AM
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with your point of view, also one thing I find extremely irritating is when feminists will come here and talk about the stupid "statistics" on how it's only/mainly men commiting violence and sex assaults while these statistics are inherrently going to be false due to how few male victims and female victims of female perpetarators come forward and therefore get counted in these, so I can understand people being annoyed with things like those.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:58 AM
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Feminists are the ones who literally hold power over many countries in the world as well as the UN, if they truly wanted to actually help victims (both male and female) instead of just spreading hate they woud have done so already.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:20 AM
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I got nothing but praise Yeah, because your experience is more important than those of many men who have experienced bullying, misandry and discrimination from feminists foir being or wanting to be taking care of children. You pushing the bullshit feminist ideology here is toxic and harmful.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:06 AM
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I mean, you can try showing her actual facts supporting the position that men do, in fact, have it harder than women but honestly I doubt it will be of much impact, Either way, I personally wouldn't be with anyone who supports the toxic feminist ideology, so if she keeps supporting that, I'd say it's probably best to move on.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:57 AM
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Yeah, because apparently: Being beaten by women much stronger than you and not getting any help or justice because of your and your assailant's sex is having it easier Being forced to fight in wars you do not support means you have it easier Having no protection from genital mutilation while in the majority of countries around the world female genital mutilation is actually usually met with sanctions is having it easier Having fewer opprotuinities to work in fileds such as childcare or being har…
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:46 AM
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I agree with your point, but that obviously isn't the real reason Men's Rights isn't taken seriously, like you said what OP posted is pretty much feminist ideology/anti-men's rights, so if anything that point of view is going to be celebrated in our society. Also men can't work whatever kind of job they want either as fileds like childcare or most female dominated feilds won't hire male candidates, so that's also a point to consider.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 11:09 PM
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Yes, precisely. This needs to be pointed out more frequently whenever someone brings up MRAs not doing enough for men and boys.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 11:00 PM
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Thank you for saying this, I think this simple fact still doesn't get said enough and the number of poeple misconstruing ideologies with genders is still pretty astonishing
/r/MensRights01/07/25 10:43 PM
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Men get their positions for free. Women have to somehow fight tooth and nail for their position. Even if this was based in some truth(not going to argue about it here because that's not the point I'm trying to make here) Men often have to fight so hard to be taken seriously as primary caretakers for children or really any more nurturing and typically female dominated role there is.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 06:35 AM
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most women who claim not to be feminists, talk and think like feminists. Can you elaborate on this more? My experience has been the exact opposite.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 12:40 AM
5

That's such a stupid analogy trying to argue with you would be pointless.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 11:41 PM
2

The overwhelming majority of moden media is feminist/misandrist so compiling a list of it is a pointless endeavour in my opinion.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 11:34 PM
19

Seriously, the word "man" has been turned into a slur.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 11:09 PM
11

"Good well intentioned feminists" - these people have the option of leaving and denouncing the feminist movement completely and joining the Men's Rights Movement instead.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 11:06 PM
15

Saying that feminists are not a monolith and that there are "good" and "bad" ones is like saying that white supermacists are not a monolith and that there are both good and bad ones with each fighting for different political and social outcomes - which is just not true, they are both fascist supermacist ideologies that should be destroyed. There is no such thing as "good" feminists.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 11:04 PM
7

I think we need to make the distinction clear on "woman" and "feminist" being two completely different things. Women are a gender, there are both good and bad women. Feminism is a destructive ideology that aims to create a fascist society where only the white cis-female population has rights and everyone else suffers. There are plenty of women who oppose feminism, You will just usually never see them on the media or as public figures, Most of these women also often get silenced on many social me…
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:57 PM
3

Yes, and then the victim blaming we receive on top of everything is so harmful and consuming. I don't think miost female feminists would even remotely be able to understand that feeling.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:49 PM
2

That's mainly because many of these men are, in fact, feminists, Both female and male feminists are to blame for that.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:40 PM
1

Yes, Thank you for saying this, if we want to promote real change then we have to acknowledge this otherwise we're just as bad as the feminists.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:36 PM
7

Same reason BLM groups and anti-racist activists have to talk about white supermacy. It is necessary to discuss systems that opress certain groups when attempting to fight for justice.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:28 PM
4

Yes, Exactly! Every single feminist is just dumb, And we live in a society where in most countries in the world feminism is taught as some sort of factual material and I'm tired of pretending it's okay.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:25 PM
4

Gosh, feminists are so fucking dumb.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:20 PM
7

A large portion of society expects men to sacrifice themselves for women,. And also men workoing dangerous jobs is an eample of misandry because men don't have the same opportunities as women to work in fileds such as childcare or as nurses and in many countries have fewer social safety nets and shelters/housing opportunities and are therefore forced to take these jobs.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 10:17 PM
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Proclaiming that misadnry doesn't kill is just plain ridicoulous. Men being forced into wars, Men and boys having barely any legal protections from violence, Men dying when working all the dangerous jobs, and men being expected to sacrifice themselves for women are all ways that men die because of misandry. But of course they're just going to push their bullshit narrattive without ever caring about the facts.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 09:18 PM
14

Gotta love how they put the "Men will never be able to understamd the struggles of Misogyny" when most of these people are so insanely privileged they would never be able to understand the struggles of misandry.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 08:55 PM
6

I’ve been banned from all the feminist groups Honestly I'd take this as a badge of honour personally.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 02:07 AM
22

Can you please stop posting this bullshit here? Not every man is going to be automatically stronger than any particular woman, and a large number of female abusers remain unreported so that take is complete crap.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 11:35 PM
1

I don't disagree that there are plently of women who don't really care about men or men's issues but I still think that many just get sucked into the ideology without thinking much about it. If you think about it, most women in the west, ever since they were little never had to worry about having their genitals mutilated, being forced into the millitary, being hit, beaten and assaulted with no consequence to their attacker, never had to worry about doing physically hard and dangerous tasks as we…
/r/MensRights26/06/25 11:24 PM
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