I hate the entire framing of the idea of a "gender war" that gets pushed constantly these days

KalashnikovParty · 2026-07-12T23:26:05+00:00

I just want to be valued as a man, to not be hated, not be only valued up to my ability to provide something but as something that’s alive

enemy_of_misandry · 2026-07-13T01:28:17+00:00

There is no gender war, it's women attacking men and men not fighting back

NatriumHyacinth · 2026-07-12T23:28:14+00:00

Yeah. There is no gender war. Men aren’t fighting. But there cannot be equality without men standing up and demanding it.

antixwick999 · 2026-07-13T02:23:53+00:00

It's not a war when one side refuses to fight. This closer to one sided assault

Cindylynn43 · 2026-07-13T05:08:27+00:00

I am a woman who is fed up with the feminist narrative. Anyone with common sense should be able to understand that men are facing inequalities in many areas of life. The same women who post drivel about being oppressed by men are commenting to other women how they should dump a man who doesn't pick up the check. 🤦‍♀️ I limit my social media time because it is a cesspool of misinformation. The privileged women bitching about their lives and how hard they have it, is too much. It is so frustrating to be in an echo chamber. I can't imagine how much worse it is for men.

Appropriate-Major649 · 2026-07-13T18:24:46+00:00

Any identifiable group is to be singled out and whatever problems that group has (or can be convinced they have) are entirely due to the actions of another identifiable group. In no way can any problem, large or small, be due to any factors inherent in the victimized group (The Good Guys). If there exists no way to attribute a particular problem in the victimized group to anything but factors inherent in that group, the particular problem is said to be an isolated anomaly, not as consequential a problem as "some would like us to believe," or a complete lie made up by members of the victimizer group (The Bad Guys) and attributed to the victimized group to make them look bad.

The worse the problem is and the harder it is to deny, the more it is due to the evil of the victimizer group, and the more evident is the victimizer groups inherent evil.

The victimizer group must be characterized as omnipotent, omnipresent, and completely malevolent. Further, the victimizer group is completely organized and united for and in their purpose of victimizing other groups. There is no baby in the bathwater of the victimizer group. They must be completely unseated from the lofty throne they occupy and all vestige of there influence erased from society.

It is also vitally important that the victimizer group in fact be none of these things. They must be a minority, and/or completely disorganized into smaller groups. An example would be a group that, while it might have numerical power in a certain region or country at the time, is also a group that prizes individual achievement and rejects organization along lines of shared characteristics as inherently evil or counterproductive. The highest achieving members of these groups can be held up as the example of the entire groups ill gotten gains and continued outsized influence in society. This is called the Apex fallacy.

The greater the gap in relatively power between the highest achievers in the victimizer group and the majority of the group the better. The higher the highest achieve, the more their power can be said to be characteristic of the victimizer class and out of proportion to greater society. Further, resentment can be used to stoke further division within the less powerful majority of the victimizer group. It is important that less powerful members of the target group believe they will be accepted as fellow travelers in other victimized groups, in spite of their lack of defining characteristics with those groups. These are called "Useful Idiots." They're presence in the victimizer groups also provides opportunities for the members of the victimizer groups to deny that their cause is based upon shared immutable characteristics, and is instead a broader struggle for "Justice."

This process can and must be repeated with as many groups that can be identified as having shared characteristics as possible. Skin color, sex, tribe, language, left/right hand dominant, hell make up a word - Oh lets say make up a a word like "Schmender" and say there are 10, or 15 of 125, or nobody knows how many variants. It doesn't matter. The important thing is to group the greater mass of society into as many identifiable sub groups as possible, and unite them in their own perceived self interest. The one characteristic they all share? They don't have as a whole or individually what the top percentage of the Bad Guys have.

This unties them against the Bad Guys, but tribal identity allows the "Uniters" to exploit individual tribal differences and characteristics among the Good Guys to keep them divided and individual controllable, and susceptible to the Narrative that their woes are because of the Bad Guys.

It is therefore vitally important that the mass of the identified "bad Guys," the ones powerless and rife for victimization in retaliation for the prosperity of the upper percentile of their "tribe" not be organized along tribal characteristics or they are just another piece to be manipulated on a chessboard.

Their cause must be identified, organized and fought for under universally understood principles of fair play, justice and self determination or they are just another warring tribe with no moral high ground or higher calling than any other tribe. And if they are conquered, it is no more wrong or unjust than if they conquered anyone else.

Let us conduct ourselves so that if the worst happens, no one can mistake it for justice.

*edited for clarity*

AbysmalDescent · 2026-07-14T21:00:37+00:00

It's not so much of a gender war, it's just a war against men and men enduring that until they break.

antifeminist3 · 2026-07-14T23:41:29+00:00

the feminists (who can be of either gender)

There are very few feminists. They are almost all women. It is almost entirely a female thing.

The men that do criticize men are mostly not feminist men, but traditional/tradcons who criticize men for abandoning their traditional provider roll because the 'women still want this'.

Alternative-Ad3998 · 2026-07-15T12:08:36+00:00

The media blitz in the 1920s suffragette era started it along with women smoking cigarettes. Our ancestors were not sophisticated enough to resist psyop media and repeated many horrible ideas taken as Gospel. Read Bernays "propaganda" . There yt attempting to educate the USA about " fake news" .

MeasurementNice295 · 2026-07-15T18:28:08+00:00

Whataboutists, man, they don't mean shit. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Former_Range_1730 · 2026-07-13T16:03:28+00:00

"Especially how so many people say things like "it's men who started the gender war" when it's clearly the feminists"

Just want to point out that media lies for attention. There is no gender war. There is no study that shows men and women hate each other.

There IS a culture war between the demographic of women who have callous views on heterosexual relationships, versus straight men and the women who love men.

The callous women have always had either little interest in men, or no interest in men other than to compete and fight against men. Since they aren't all that into men, and men aren't all that into them, they don't matter.

Focusing no the women who like men results in fantastic interactiions with women.

Hungry_Ant736 · 2026-07-13T08:30:59+00:00

There are literally men that are killing women because they are single, it's called incels. Other masculinist who hate women and want to keep them inferior are also putting all their effort to reach that goal but you dare say "men are not fighting, only feminist are". It's true that many women have developed a strong hatred toward men in general but it's not all feminists so don't come saying there is a war between genders wanted by women or that this is caused by feminism : feminism isn't about fighting men or making their life a misery, it's about putting an end to every discrimination due to gender. Women or men that says feminism is just about hating men or creating a war between genders didn't understand anything.

culotree · 2026-07-13T01:01:07+00:00

Its only a war because women have a voice now. Men have long treated them second class, excluded them from any meaningful decision making. Now there is equality and you are all crying war. Your enemy is not the opposite sex, and its not your fault you feel inadequate, it's the rules and expectation that have been set by us to undermine and compete with each other.

Title	I hate the entire framing of the idea of a "gender war" that gets pushed constantly these days
Author	Working_Parsley_2364
Upvotes	125
Comments	53
Date	July 12, 2026 11:23 PM UTC (1 week ago)
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