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Fundamentals atomant88/r/seduction19/10/22 07:22 AM
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Fundamentals atomant88/r/seduction17/08/22 06:32 AM
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Fundamentals atomant88/r/seduction27/07/22 09:48 AM
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Fundamentalsatomant88/r/seduction01/09/21 08:04 AM
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Advanced (Certain Basic Skills Required!) atomant88/r/seduction12/08/22 09:46 AM
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Field Reportatomant88/r/seduction13/08/22 09:44 AM
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Escalation & Calibrationatomant88/r/seduction21/05/20 09:44 PM
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Fundamentals atomant88/r/seduction03/08/22 08:21 PM
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Exaclty. Be romantic. If shes mot interested then bounce
/r/seduction04/02/26 04:02 PM
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There is no friend zone. Dont act like a friend if you want more
/r/seduction04/02/26 01:46 PM
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Just be yourself. Youre asking this as if you get to pick who you are.
/r/seduction03/02/26 09:41 PM
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There is no friend zone Dont act like a friend if you want romance
/r/seduction03/02/26 08:43 PM
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House parties arent great for the numbers game. But selective approaches are fine.
/r/seduction02/02/26 10:55 PM
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There is no talking stage homie. Learn actual game.
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:35 PM
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You can't escalate over text Just use text to set up dates
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:33 PM
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Dont be a creep homie
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:12 PM
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You don't need to stick out, you need to find who you are compatible with
/r/seduction15/09/24 10:30 PM
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Game isn't gendered Make the approach, signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent Works for everyone
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:36 PM
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Me
/r/seduction15/09/24 03:18 PM
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Game has nothing to do with testosterone
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:19 PM
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Game isn't just for men, and men don't need to be masculine to be good at game
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:18 PM
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Game isn't just about attraction, it's about triage Disqualify time wasters early and play the numbers game Signal intent, escalate with consent
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:18 PM
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Start with hello and get the conversation flowing Be topical
/r/seduction14/09/24 09:05 PM
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There is no need to lie It's easy to get what you want while being honest. You just have to work smart and work hard
/r/seduction14/09/24 08:18 PM
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Indicators are meaningless my friend. Make the approach. I never get indicators. But I always make the approach.
/r/seduction14/09/24 08:01 PM
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How many approaches though ? I set a quota on my nights out. 20 to 30 approaches depending on how busy the bar is
/r/seduction14/09/24 07:46 PM
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How many approaches are you making ?
/r/seduction14/09/24 07:41 PM
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Keep playing the numbers game Keep being honest Keep valuing your time How many fuckbuddies do you need ? It doesn't take long to find one. If you're playing the numbers game
/r/seduction14/09/24 07:12 PM
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Out of the last 4 years I've been unemployed for 2. Hasn't hurt me. Just means more free time to date EDIT - although no job might not be as bad as a bad job lol like being unemployed after a good job is okay, currently working a bad job is not as okay.
/r/seduction13/09/24 10:00 PM
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You don't need to understand psychology to be good at game You need to understand game It's about compatibility, not manipulation
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:24 PM
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If your plan depends on luck it's a bad plan
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:23 PM
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Nice has nothing to do with game If anything it enhances game But it's ultimately tertiary
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:22 PM
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Depends on your goals, effort, and patience But if you don't make a move, romance will be difficult
/r/seduction07/09/24 06:20 PM
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My experience is women won't take you seriously if you don't escalate
/r/seduction07/09/24 05:40 PM
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Not at all Sometimes you make a shitty approach and it works Sometimes you make a perfect approach and it doesn't work Don't sweat it . Just keep making approaches and trying to improve
/r/seduction07/09/24 05:38 PM
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No way homie. I've been doing both for more than a decade. I know how they work
/r/seduction06/09/24 05:55 PM
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There is no text game Use text to set up dates. The end And drop all the manophere BS about "tell them, don't ask them " . That shit doesn't work. And it's insulting
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:54 PM
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Just make sure you ask for consent.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:37 PM
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I get like 1 match a month online If i go to the bar i can get 5-10 phone numbers a night Online only works if you're attractive
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:36 PM
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Doesn't matter homie. Close the deal. Take her on a date. How you get there doesn't matter
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:34 PM
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Signal intent "Can I take you on a date ?" Escalate with consent "Can I kiss you ?" It's not rocket science. Just make it clear your intentions are romantic, not platonic. And attempt to Escalate ASAP . You need to escalate early to make sure they know that you're not being platonic and you do find them attractive . If you don't Escalate they won't take you seriously. Just make sure you ask for consent as well, they can always say no if it's too early. In which case go back to building intimacy …
/r/seduction25/08/24 08:52 PM
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Ask for consent before you touch anyone It's a chance to wave 3 green flags ; communication, confidence, and respect. All very sexy things And it encourages her to do the same. The best sex involves a lot of communication about what you both like and don't like. And asking for consent can get the ball rolling verbally (although seductive communication should Ideally start well before asking for consent )
/r/seduction25/08/24 06:24 PM
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Communicate like an adult. And start being more respectful about how you treat people
/r/seduction25/08/24 04:08 PM
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Start with hello
/r/seduction25/08/24 04:07 PM
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Game 101 homie. The 4 steps to seduction Make the approach Signal intent Build intimacy Escalate with consent If you're being "platonic " you're missing step 2 and prolly step 4.
/r/seduction25/08/24 03:31 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about
/r/seduction25/08/24 03:22 PM
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What do you mean deal with it ? What's there to deal with? I keep talking to girls, doing my thing, living my best life Don't make approaches at the gym tho homie that's rude
/r/seduction25/08/24 01:42 PM
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Hello
/r/seduction15/08/24 10:51 PM
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when i was poly i would say 'youre so gorgeous you should have 2 partners' . but if youre not poly then there's no point in testing those waters. dont be a cheater, and dont help someone cheat ask her if she has any single friends as pretty as she is lol also a core rule of approaches is; they should not feel like approaches. they should feel natural. you should be seducing her so she thinks its her idea. so if this topic comes up you are likely coming on too strong or being too direct. which ca…
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:33 PM
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ABCs homie. Ability, Body, Charisma. What you say falls under 'charisma' but how you say it and when you say it is equally important. so mathematically that makes it about 15% of the equation. give or take.
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:26 PM
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by how she responds to your approach. same as any other girl. make the approach and find out
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:23 PM
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how many approaches have you made? and whats your actual method? define your terms.
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:22 PM
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youre not making sense homie. no one has interest at the beginning. game is how to get them interested. a lack of interest is normal.
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:09 PM
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never. its a cheesy manipulation tactic that gets in the way of a genuine connection
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:07 PM
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so stop opening your mouth
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:03 PM
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my personal experience is attractive girls are actually much more forward. they have no fear of rejection. ugly girls are afraid to make a move.
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:01 PM
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low standards homie. thats all there is to it
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:02 PM
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well then you never saw me homie, ive been doing it off and on for like 13 years. and it doesnt take much to start finding success, if you actually study the game.
/r/seduction16/07/24 02:43 AM
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still prolly wrote the article with ChatGP
/r/seduction15/07/24 01:15 PM
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are you a bot? is that your 'go to' script? say 'potato' to prove youre not a bot!
/r/seduction15/07/24 01:05 PM
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your article is clickbait spam
/r/seduction15/07/24 12:51 PM
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untrue clickbait spam. hope the mods take down this dreck. cold approach works homie.
/r/seduction15/07/24 12:50 PM
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lol you clearly dont understand game at all. youre just here to derail people who actually wanna get results in their dating life.
/r/seduction15/07/24 12:49 PM
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well thats not how game works. game doesnt help you get approached, it helps you make approaches. you want dates? put in some effort. thats game. it maximizes your effort in the most efficient way possible.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:36 AM
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yes for sure homie, go make some approaches, apply the techniques, it will work.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:21 AM
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and i said; there is NO specifically gendered PUA community at all. the same advice applies to everyone regardless of gender or sexuality. so by default every group is queer inclusive , including gay men specifically.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:04 AM
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that might work for traditional 'dating' but not for game.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:02 AM
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that sounds like bad game to me. do you often successfully escalate after parties?
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:02 AM
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yes. especially when shes putting you in a position where intimacy and escalation will be difficult.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:01 AM
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dates arent about fun, theyre about intimacy and escalation. and doubles suck for both of those.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:01 AM
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a date is about building intimacy and escalating. thats very hard with another couple there. i always avoid double dates
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:00 AM
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you asked if there is a community for queer people, this is the community for queer people.
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:58 AM
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3 dates isnt even enough time to manipulate you. just communicate with her
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:55 AM
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so get a solid answer before investing more time and energy into her; is she interested in pursuing you? or is she pursuing her ex? ask her straight up, be an adult, dont let her string you along
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:55 AM
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game is not confined by gender or sexual orientation. its a way to approach dating systemically. im agender and asexual, game has def helped me out with romance, because i dont have natural sexual instincts, so game gives me a framework to use when approaching dating people, of all genders
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:53 AM
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thats not been my experience at all. i have tons of luck in-person, very little on apps.
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:34 AM
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thats how consent works idiot. otherwise its sexual assault. and its bad game to assault people
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:17 PM
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yikes. ive never head of a real player discounting the numbers game. stop with the uneducated advice. youre just out here sabotaging people. and its especially obvious when you mix in incel terminology. your body count is prolly 0 holmes
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:16 PM
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homie 40 approaches in a month is not good. i can make 40 in a weekend easy. when your volume is so low its hard to develop good habits. pump up your volume so you develop those good habits and can really see what works and what doesnt, by experimenting and changing up your approach. 3 months of practice is not much when youve only made 100 approaches total. instead make 100 approaches EVERY month and see how your development speeds up. its a numbers game homie.
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:14 PM
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lol ive been doing game for like 15 years homie. consent is good game. groping people is called being a creep
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:10 PM
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just keep grinding homie. especially keep working on building your charisma and understanding of game. you can develop that faster than your physique (although upgrading your wardrobe and grooming can be done fast)
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:09 PM
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there is no nuance to verbal consent. you need to ask every time
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:08 PM
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yeah but for me the volume is so low its not useful.
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:07 PM
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im not super attractive (maybe 6/10 for looks) so 95% of my success is in person lol just every once in a while i get a match online , like 1 per month maybe.
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:06 PM
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the 4 steps and the ABCs. if you have a strong understand of these then you're gonna find a ton of success. they're general rules and considerations, not micro-managing things. in the macro most players have similar game, in the micro we might do specific things differently. and the wiki is a good starting place ABCs A- ability- understand game B- body- look good (includes fashion and grooming) C- charisma- talk the talk (be approachable, fun, funny, polite, charming, and flirty) 4 steps 1- make…
/r/seduction10/07/24 08:04 PM
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really depends on your skillset and appearance. apps are great if you are really attractive physically. in person is better if you have a great personality.
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:48 PM
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does that means it easier for pickup?
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:38 PM
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it really depends on the vibe of the party and your skillset. you cant really play the numbers game at a house party, and if the social circle is tight you dont want to get a rep as a creep by hitting on everyones mutuals at a house party. house parties are more for social networking than for cold approaches
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:38 PM
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really depends on your entire approach. how talkative are you? how good are you at building rapport? how quickly do you escalate? how are you meeting your dates? if its online then put it right in your profile. if its in person i usually go with 'dont ask dont tell' BUT i also escalate very quickly which usually leads to them asking just whatever you do dont lie or manipulate, there's no need for that. thats rat behaviour
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:34 PM
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predator
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:31 PM
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keep your hands to yourself creep. if you dont know how to talk to women thats your issue, but it doesnt give you permission to touch them without asking.
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:30 PM
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agree. but i def try to avoid dinner dates as much as possible. theyre dull and some women will try to use you for free food. activities are better
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:30 PM
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the time investment is my main issue. drink dates are usually later at night, and to me thats more valuable time, its time i could be on a real date. vs the afternoon which is, to me, less valuable time out of my day
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:29 PM
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youre putting your energy into these little things that dont matter homie. the only reason to overthink these little details is if youve already mastered the basics of game, but if youve mastered the basics you will be so successful you wont need these little touches anyways.
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:25 PM
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fake it till you make it homie. act confident till you are confident. do not act like a failure, act like a success. eventually you'll believe it once you succeed
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:24 PM
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ask for consent
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:41 AM
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so go get some. you can always learn and improve if youre humble.
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:40 AM
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bingo. always ask for consent. saves you from being the creep who kissed someone who didnt want a kiss.
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:39 AM
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do not go for a kiss without asking for consent first . thats sexual assault
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:38 AM
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AKA sexual assault. do not touch anyone without their verbal consent homie.
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:38 AM
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dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:37 AM
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ask for consent
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:37 AM
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skipping the coffee dates is gonna result in a lot of wasted time and money. always vet your dates first before investing with quick coffee dates. then , if theyre worth it, invest in a real date later. your time is valuable, your money might be as well, dont squander either
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:35 AM
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always try to escalate when youve built enough rapport. coffee dates dont usually build enough rapport. thats why theyre not 'real' dates. theyre auditions for real dates to weed out catfishes and obvious time/money wasters. great first dates. not good for building rapport and escalating. but you could still do it, it would just be harder. even if you cant escalate beyond a kiss still DO ask for a kiss. thats a good way to test the waters at the end of a coffee date, and lets you demonstrate tha…
/r/seduction09/07/24 12:33 AM
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lol i dont play video games. but yeah go ahead and try a personal attack when i point out your advice is bad game, creepy, and borderline sexual assault.
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:44 PM
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not if you play the numbers game. eventually you'll find someone. but game is also about improving your odds WITHOUT compromising who you are or being manipulative
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:41 PM
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the people who youre supposed to be around will like you for you. the people who dont like you will call you creepy and scary and tell you to change yourself. dont hang with people who dont like you. problem solved. being fake is not the solution, cause the real you will always come out. i have great luck with women. but that doesnt mean i never get rejected. i get rejected a lot. success is about playing the numbers game and being confident in yourself. i can use the same approach and one woman…
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:38 PM
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absolutely not. verbal game is key. groping people is creepy and will turn someone off even if they had been ready to say 'yes' to you asking for consent. no one wants to fuck someone who is too insecure to communicate, good sex is built on communication, confidence, and respect. and asking for consent shows all of that. its good game.
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:35 PM
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your call homie. how much time do you wanna devote to a dead end?
/r/seduction28/06/24 04:33 PM
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ask for consent.
/r/seduction28/06/24 04:32 PM
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never make things superficial. build intimacy. when you signal intent she will know you find her attractive, you dont need to say it. EVERY guy will be saying this to her. be different. and focus on what really matters; intimacy
/r/seduction28/06/24 04:31 PM
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thats not an approach homie. go make a real approach
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:16 PM
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what does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:16 PM
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make approaches
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:15 PM
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Real men dont sexually assault people. And consent is not gendered. A gay guy also doesnt have the right to kiss you because he thinks he is a real man and real men dont ask for consent
/r/seduction16/06/24 08:18 PM
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You always need to ask. Asking shows confidence, respect, and communication. Groping someone shows insecurity, bad communication, and disrespect
/r/seduction16/06/24 08:17 PM
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You still have to ask
/r/seduction14/06/24 07:15 PM
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Touching someone without their consent is sexual assault And it's bad game
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:12 PM
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People with game will ask. Verbal game is vital
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:10 PM
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Lol no way. Groping someone because you're too afraid to communicate is insecure. Asking shows confidence.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:10 PM
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With consent
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:04 PM
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Always try to escalate. As long as you ask for consent you cant go wrong. She can always say no and you try again later.
/r/seduction14/06/24 05:03 PM
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Touching someone without their consent is sexual assault yes And it's also bad game
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:46 AM
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If you touch her without consent its sexual assault. You always need to ask for consent And it's good game to do so. Establish a verbal connection. Turn her on with your words. Assaulting someone is bad game
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:45 AM
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It means you have to seduce her with your words. Not grope her.
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:31 AM
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whats the point of turning them on over the phone? you cant escalate over the phone
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:19 AM
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always goes well for me. kissing someone without consent is gross man
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:18 AM
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you always ask for consent. if you dont have any verbal game then you have no game at all.
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:17 AM
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nice is never the problem. nice is good. being nasty wont make your game better or easier. you need to improve your game not drop your manners.
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:17 AM
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you cant know thats OPs issue based on his extremely vague post here
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:16 AM
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its really impossible to tell based on this info. everyone will have different types of approaches that work for them. do you spend 5 minutes with them get their info and bounce? do you spend all night with them building intimacy and trying to escalate? both can work, but both also have pros and cons and things which need to happen and things which shouldnt happen.
/r/seduction13/06/24 02:15 AM
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you cant escalate over the phone homie. dont bother. use the phone to set up dates. thats it. maybe maybe use it to build intimacy. but again; you cant escalate over the phone, so minimize the phone. you always want to be able to escalate when you get an opportunity.
/r/seduction12/06/24 09:51 PM
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homie i think you need therapy. usually i'd say 'just get back in the game and your next success will make you forget about it' but you claim to have had dates and successes since then. so clearly you have some kind of complex going on in your head here. try talking to a professional. you're idealizing this person you really didnt even know. youve built them up in your head for no reason. if you had spent more time with them and gotten to know them youd see they are human. no one is perfect. but…
/r/seduction07/06/24 11:49 PM
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*with consent
/r/seduction04/06/24 04:24 PM
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All the same rules still apply, it will just be harder for you. But the game doesnt change.
/r/seduction04/06/24 04:23 PM
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That's true , you need both. You need to signal intent before building rapport. And if you're attractive to them then they'll be receptive to moving forward to building rapport. If you're not attractive to them they will reject you and you keep playing the numbers game without wasting time building rapport with someone who isnt attracted to you (the friend zone )
/r/seduction04/06/24 04:15 PM
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i mean that might work, but building rapport is about sharing passionate and intimate positive moments. sometimes those can be from childhood , but not always. sometimes its a future they're passionate about. it the 'building rapport' stage of seduction, im sure there are lots of posts here talking about it. again; study game. dont reinvent the wheel.
/r/seduction04/06/24 01:27 AM
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dont focus on what youre doing wrong. focus on how to do it right. study game. there are a million ways to do things wrong, just a few ways to do things right.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:24 AM
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thats a pretty weak opener my man. but as long as you had a follow-up (which you didnt) it could have worked. think deeper next time. beyond just one line. think of a follow-up.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:23 AM
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this sub is about pickup, not relationships. and also; thats not what 'seduction' means
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:22 AM
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as soon as it feels like we've broken the ice i ask. ASAP. dont miss the chance. you can always ask later if she says 'not yet'
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:21 AM
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lol is this sarcasm? bad advice on purpose?
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:19 AM
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you dont need to stand out. you need to build a connection. no matter how 'good' you are it wont matter if you cant connect. and 'good' is gonna be different for everyone anyways. be yourself. know how to make a connection, and hopefully your 'good' will align with her idea of what's good. if not then at least you tried and were honest; keep playing the numbers game. but if you're fake, or dont try to make the connection, then youre gonna fail and fizzle anyways
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:19 AM
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what does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:17 AM
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flirting doesnt matter. all that matters is how she responds to your approach. girls can be flirty but not want to date, girls can also not be flirty but be willing to date. the date is the goal, not flirting.
/r/seduction26/05/24 06:40 PM
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signs dont matter. what matters is how they respond to your approach.
/r/seduction26/05/24 06:38 PM
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her intentions dont matter. if you wanna ask her out; ask her out and see what happens. if you dont wanna ask her out her intentions dont matter.
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:42 PM
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stop trying to be fake homie. dont do what doesnt come naturally. be yourself and be confident in that. im clingy AF. the people who like me will like that. the people who dont like that wont like me anyways. why try to be with someone by being fake? you end up with someone who doesnt like the real you. or more likely you send mixed messages and you get no one
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:35 PM
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primary; make lots of approaches. signal intent early. get contact info early. play the numbers game. secondary; be surrounded by beautiful women (female friends), look like youre having the best night of your life, be the life of the party, buy people drinks, be nice to people, make lots of friends, be funny, charming, and confident. dress well and have good hygiene. the secondary points will help, every little improvement will add up, but without making the approaches it wont matter anyways. y…
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:24 PM
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have a threesome with two 3s and then just add it up to 6. 6 aint bad! lol
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:17 PM
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good advice! and/or arrive with some smoking hot girls. having hot female friends to be wingmen is so useful. and also can lead to FWB too. when women see you with hot women it makes everything easier
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:16 PM
3

def gotta have a roster
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:15 PM
4

im not good at 1 and 2 but ive maximized point 3 lmfao
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:09 PM
1

you should ask them a question about themselves and their feelings. 'do you like to go to bars?' or 'whats your favourite bar?' . then progress to 'whats your favourite drink?' or 'isnt it funny how we can decide a favourite bar or drink based on an experience?' and then transition into an anecdote or ask them for one . for me anecdotes are like 90% of my verbal game.
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:07 PM
1

being interesting or boring has nothing to do with being in the friend zone . the friend zone is what happens when you dont signal intent (ie act like a romantic partner, not a friend)
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:02 PM
0

Good advice. But I think most actual approaches to game already include it. The only people who tell you to lie and manipulate are people who don't understand game
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:27 PM
2

so my experience is that the issue isnt finding people who are interested in me. i'm so unique that i get 100% of my market. if you like me i'm your only choice, i have no competition. there is no one else like me. thats good. but my issue is i dont like conventional people. i dont wanna be a 'manic pixie dreamgirl' to someone (im not a girl but you get the point). i want to find someone on my level i can vibe with. a weird to match my weird. and thats hard.
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:21 PM
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thats pretty normal. thats why first dates need to be low cost and low effort, coffee dates. unless of course you have a roster and can switch in a backup girl for the big event at the last minute lol. ive been able to do that a few times and its been great for me. but generally it's not a good idea to invest a lot in a first date. they might be a catfish, or just not your type when you first meet.
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:17 PM
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if you meet the right person they will find you fascinating, if you meet the wrong person they will find you boring. thats why you have to play the numbers game. find someone youre compatible with. (although obviously some strong social skills can help overall too)
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:14 PM
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Dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction16/05/24 11:19 PM
1

Just make sure you ask for consent first
/r/seduction16/05/24 11:18 PM
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TF are you talking about? a good approach wont make anyone feel uncomfortable. And when escalating as long as you ask for consent you'll be fine there too. Your post has what to do with pickup? Seems unrelated. try a relationship sub
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:14 AM
1

have you done literally zero research on how pickup works? go put in some work man. read the wiki
/r/seduction12/05/24 05:25 PM
0

weak list man what you need are the ABCs and the 4 steps. ABCs to work on before playing the game, and the 4 steps are how to play the game. ABCs; Ability- know the game Body- look good (includes fashion and hygeine) Charisma- talk the talk 4 Steps; Make the Approach Signal Intent Build Rapport Escalate with Consent That should be the foundation of good game. basics which you will always find success with if you master them. your list has some elements of each, but misses the core points of WHY …
/r/seduction11/05/24 06:52 PM
1

ask for consent
/r/seduction11/05/24 06:48 PM
0

never. see the girl; make the approach. do not hesitate.
/r/seduction11/05/24 06:48 PM
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female friends can be a huge asset for sure. im not sure it should be prioritized over learning game and making solo approaches. but its a huge asset for sure.
/r/seduction11/05/24 06:45 PM
2

consent is such good game. it lets you wave a lot of green flags for free. communication is sexy, respect is sexy, confidence is sexy. asking for consent demonstrates all 3. and if they say 'no' then you go back to building rapport and try again later. way better outcome than touching someone with no consent and pissing them off or creeping them out
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:32 PM
2

i prefer to ask for a date over text after meeting. because you get a more honest answer. equals less wasted time. a lot of women will say 'yes' when youre in front of them, but theyre lying and then you end up wasting time chasing them. ask them in the most low pressure way possible. you get more honest answers. and can then play the numbers game better. more efficient. less wasted time.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:57 PM
1

straight to the point. signal intent.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:55 PM
3

just ask for consent
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:32 PM
1

bingo
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:32 PM
1

you didnt do anything wrong . theyre just toxic. if you want to deal with less toxic people then screen them more carefully .
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:31 PM
0

just proceed like any other approach. just because she approached you doesnt mean anything else changed. signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent.
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:30 PM
1

just be honest bro. youre overthinking this
/r/seduction09/05/24 07:29 PM
2

consent is always good game. verbal skills are vital
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:52 PM
1

dont touch anyone without their consent. mega creepy
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:52 PM
1

ask for consent. invest in your verbal skills and every aspect of game will be better.
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:51 PM
1

ah man that would require reading their profile tho. too high effort for me.
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:48 PM
1

weak shit bro
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:47 PM
2

my go to is 'i love your vibe' like 'hey i read your profile and really dig your vibe, can i take you out for coffee sometime?' . its vague but also personal. women love to know what vibes they give off, they love their style and personality to be recognized. another good one ; ask them 'do you prefer sunrises or sunsets?' . just such a romantic and intriguing question to me.
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:47 PM
1

dont sh*t where you eat. leave your coworkers alone. there are women literally everywehere you can be approaching. dont sacrifice your job "hey what's up! How is it over there?" is a terrible opener. but if youre getting any responses from it then at least your profile is good . youre the one being dry here not them. elevate your game it sounds like you have not put in any work into researching how game works. dont focus on what youre doing wrong. focus on what you need to do right. a dry respon…
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:43 PM
2

its normal to be tentative when learning a new skill. just do your research and then go practice. not every approach leads somewhere. thats normal. not every date leads somewhere either. but you have to start by building rapport and then escalate from there as they become comfortable with you
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:40 PM
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Stop being a creep and going after young girls 🤮🤮🤮
/r/seduction01/05/24 08:53 PM
1

meh i dunno i just think people are shallow. when i was 270 i was in really bad shape, starving myself. now im back up to 310 and in much much better shape physically, in the gym and jogging. i can still pull but its just wack how shallow people are to me
/r/seduction01/05/24 02:11 PM
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i dunno holmes, it was actually kinda depressing for me when i lost weight lol to realize how shallow all the girls are. but it was def a lot easier to pull when i was 270 than when i was bigger.
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:53 PM
2

game doesnt change homie. just refresh your skills. go thru the wiki. respond to some posts here. if you actually understood game then you'll be fine. follow the steps.
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:42 PM
1

i dunno if thats just a rookie issue my man, how long have you been making approaches? when i question myself its very easy to simply look back on some of the hotties i've pulled and it really boosts my confidence. if it worked once, it can work again. and besides, the longer you do game the more you realize how easy it is, just in general. there are tons of women who would love to be with you, you just have to find them
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:41 PM
1

i think this is a venue issue my dude. you can def make approaches at a concert, but i wouldnt go to a concert soloely to make approaches. go to the bar solely with the intent of making approaches, make 20-30. see what your success rate is. do that at least once a week. see how strong your game really is. you cant learn anything from 2 approaches. make 60-90 over the course of a weekend. then you'll see where you really stand. and it will become second nature. after every night of making approac…
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:38 PM
1

i'm 6' 3'' and have varied from 270 to 320 while doing pickup. its def easier when youre slimmer, but all the same rules apply. you can still pull while being heavier, its just harder. but its still possible. ive always had good success.
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:35 PM
1

2nd dates are where you actually build rapport. 1st dates are just auditions for 2nd dates. 2nd dates are where to put the effort in. remember; first dates should be short and sweet, leave them wanting more, leave a quick exit, dont spend any money (or time), coffee is ideal for first dates
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:33 PM
4

dont sh*t where you eat
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:19 AM
3

pickup isnt about relationships, its about getting your foot in the door, after that you can maybe turn things into a relationship. but relationships are more complicated than just getting dates and getting laid
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:08 AM
1

weak advice here and a product plug too? lame my man, very lame
/r/seduction27/04/24 10:10 PM
1

Why would you wanna be in the "fun zone " with someone being racist towards you?
/r/seduction27/04/24 09:32 PM
1

Very accidental. I met them together. And the brunette wanted to f*ck us both lol I was happy to oblige. But the blonde remained cagey. Brunette thought maybe a 3some would lure her in lmfao. They ended up dating later and had a couple 3somes with some other dudes, which I'm a bit salty about lol but now they broke up and I'm back with the brunette. The blonde blames me for the breakup for some reason....
/r/seduction25/04/24 09:25 PM
1

Its def happened before, but only under certain very rare situations with a certain kind of woman lmfao I was out with 2 girls one time (trying to have a 3some ) and the blonde got this dude to buy us all 3 rounds, drinks and shooters, 18 drinks total. Great stuff. The 3some didnt work out sadly. But it was a good night anyways. I think he was also trying to give us some coke, but the girls weren't interested
/r/seduction25/04/24 09:21 PM
1

Lmfao thats not true and has nothing to do with pickup homie. Stop deflecting
/r/seduction25/04/24 09:17 PM
0

I'm not writing an essay for someone who hasnt even done the bare minimum to educate themself lmfao That's exactly my point. You're trying to reinvent the wheel with no research and no understanding of what you're talking about. Go and actually study some game and come back why an intelligent question. There is literally a wiki on the sub you can access. No excuses
/r/seduction25/04/24 09:12 PM
1

If they say yes it works out easily If they say no in a rude way, same lol But if they get curious or have a sense of humour it's a good opening for banter. If they ask "why should I?" I either ask them if I'm not their type or not pretty enough for them. If they say I'm not pretty enough I tell them a few drinks might help fix that. And tell them I'm a feminist looking for a strong independent woman. But if they buy the first round I'll buy the second round. Equal partners. Just keep it very pl…
/r/seduction25/04/24 09:08 PM
1

My favourite opener at a bar is to ask them to buy me a drink. Flip the script.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:59 PM
3

by being interesting and attractive. not being a pay pig
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:42 PM
1

if youre afraid to scare away losers then youll be surrounded by them and you'll never find a winner
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:41 PM
2

very very very easy. make it clear youre not spending any cash on her
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:40 PM
2

make the move NOW. never hesitate. never fall in love until you know them. stop acting like a kid.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:39 PM
1

you need theory and practice. both are equally important.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:38 PM
0

bro youre just rambling here. the fundamentals of game will always remain strong. game is a systematic approach to dating for maximum efficiency. what you use the system for is totally secondary. its a way to build intimacy and find a partner fast. thats it. stop overthinking. if you dont understand peacocking its because you dont understand fundamental game. if you do then you know why peacocking works, or why it doesnt work. too many people focus on superficial stuff and not why it works. when…
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:35 PM
4

WTF are you even talking about? this is so vague
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:33 PM
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this post is so vague bro. what are you doing? whatever youre doing isnt working. no shock, just stick to the basics. follow the formula that works. stop trying to learn by subtraction. dont focus on mistakes. focus on good game. proven game make the approach. signal intent. build intimacy. escalate with consent. thats it.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:33 PM
0

most gendered advice is nonsense. game is not gendered
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:31 PM
2

the whole point of pickup is to sleep with them ASAP homie.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:30 PM
4

dont tie your confidence to other people in the first place . especially people you dont know or respect
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:30 PM
0

when someone closes off you need to make the first move and open up. dont leave things ambiguous. tell her 'i want to be with you tonight. if you dont want that, i understand, i can leave if thats not what you want.' . set some boundaries and she'll respect you for it. give her encouragement that you really want her. set some consequences for her. there are many ways to communicate, depending on your intentions. but in my experience you need to communicate in the moment of intimacy to keep thing…
/r/seduction17/04/24 07:50 PM
0

being nice is good game. but it has nothing to do with being boring or platonic. you can be nice, interesting, and romantic all at the same time. just work the steps. make the approach, signal intent (no friend zone), build intimacy (dont be boring), and then escalate with consent. you can do all of this while being nice. and being nice will help in every area.
/r/seduction17/04/24 07:38 PM
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any situation can be salvaged if you want to put in the effort. its just a matter of 'is the reward worth your time and effort?' . at a certain point its easier to move on and play the numbers game. get someone who appreciates you more with less effort on your part. but any situation can be salvaged. ive had some wild experiences with that EDIT; after re-reading your post i def feel your issue here is communication. you didnt talk to her about her feelings, you didnt share yours, so things stall…
/r/seduction17/04/24 07:34 PM
0

Lol blaming the government for your lack of game ?
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:15 PM
3

Nah most of those guys are trash It's so easy to be better Women really appreciate quality over quantity. Because they're constantly barraged by trash men Just a little effort goes a long way. All the trash men out there actually make pickup easier for the rest of us (in that sense anyways)
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:14 PM
1

you dont gotta read the room, you do gotta ask for consent. consent is good game. and reading the room is too. but youre allowed to have bad game, youre not allowed to violate consent and im 35, been doing approaches for 12 years. i'm not naive or inexperienced. but if you think consent isnt part of good game then i question if youre the naive one . groping isnt sexy. communicating is
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:38 PM
1

nope. no touching is okay without consent.
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:18 PM
1

study, observe, and practice.
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:18 PM
1

touching someone without their consent is being an asshole
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:17 PM
1

im not male thanks. and if you need forms to keep you from assaulting someone then go ahead and do that too
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:16 PM
1

farthest thing from inexperienced.consent is good game and verbal consent is the law
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:15 PM
-6

you dont need to be manly to have game, and tons of gay dudes are manly AF
/r/seduction14/04/24 03:57 PM
0

lmfao you dont need to be masculine to have game GTFO
/r/seduction14/04/24 03:56 PM
2

doesnt matter homie. as long as youre communicating and working the steps you'll be fine.
/r/seduction14/04/24 03:55 PM
1

Work on your social skills . They're just like any other set of skills
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:44 PM
1

same exact way as anyone else. you'll just have a harder time finding success. but the formula doesnt change.
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:28 PM
-6

consent; yes touching before she answers; no
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:26 PM
-38

do not touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:26 PM
-7

the only 'trick' you need is to ask for consent
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:25 PM
-63

do not touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:25 PM
-3

you can do anything you want as long as you ask for consent first
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:25 PM
2

The wiki on this sub is a great place to start ABC is ability, body, charisma. How well you know game, how good you look, and how good you can talk. The 3 main skills to maximize in order to find success.
/r/seduction08/04/24 11:43 PM
-1

So why would anyone put effort into helping you when you put no effort into helping yourself?
/r/seduction08/04/24 11:33 PM
1

this post is so vague. do you know the ABCs? the 4 steps to seduction? are you making approaches? have you done any research or work at all?
/r/seduction08/04/24 11:24 PM
1

For sure
/r/seduction07/04/24 04:34 PM
2

just be yourself homie. dont be fake, cause your veneer will crack eventually. i have golden retriever energy, so i lean into it. works great for me, cause its not fake, its genuine.
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:15 AM
1

its not a 'sad nature of women' thing, its a healthy boundaries thing. do you know her enough to even have these feelings you want to confess? or do you have an unhealthy preoccupation with someone you dont even know that well? rushing things is a red flag. take things slow.
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:08 AM
3

i find taking pics too soon can come across as too intense too soon. but it depends a lot on the girl. i like to err on the side of caution personally
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:04 AM
1

at this point it doesnt matter, connection or not it's in the past and he needs to follow thru the best he can. and personally i prefer shorter intros, especially with my friends. because it lets me make other approaches thru the night, play the numbers game. dont get distracted and waste a whole night on one girl
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:03 AM
0

Text the next day 'so nice to meet you. Are you free this weekend? I'd love to take you rock climbing*" *or whatever date you want to take her on
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:01 AM
2

practising bad habits is actually worse than not practising
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:11 PM
-1

you know shes interested only when she agrees to go on a DATE with you. do not put yourself in the friend zone by 'hanging out'. signal intent. its game 101.
/r/seduction02/04/24 11:51 AM
3

if this is how she reacted to being asked on a DATE then its a very passive aggressive rejection. if you didnt make it clear you wanted to take her on a DATE then its your fault, you friendzoned yourself. SIGNAL INTENT
/r/seduction02/04/24 11:24 AM
1

Yeah i dont answer rookie questions from rude trolls. Sorry not sorry. There are tons of resources here for learning the basics. Go read them and you'll see why smalltalk is bad game
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:29 AM
1

Talking about someone's passions and making an effort to get to know them as a human being isnt socially unacceptable This is game 101. Why are you on this forum if you dont know that ? Good luck trying to escalate after talking about nothing but the weather
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:07 AM
1

Thanks for demonstrating that you dont know how to build intimacy with passionate conversation. WTF do you think is the opposite of smalltalk? Sex talk ? Engage her emotionally. That shows you are safe and value her wants and feelings.
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:01 AM
-1

Yes always ask before touching someone. It's an easy way to wave green flags. It shows communication, confidence, and respect. All very sexy things. Consent is good game.
/r/seduction01/04/24 11:17 PM
1

if you have game you can approach a group no problem. ive seen guys get roasted like this, but their approaches were pathetic. ive always done it and never had a problem.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:09 PM
1

dont focus on the failures. focus on the successes. whats your ratio? if you are literally getting ZERO dates from a whole night of approaches you either arent making enough approaches or your approach is really flawed. get back to basics. Do you know how to make a good approach? get back to basics. Are you making enough approaches?
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:08 PM
1

neither matters. all that matters if her reaction to your approach. make the approach if YOU are interested. and then you'll find out FOR SURE if she is interested. if youre interested always make the approach, always
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:06 PM
-1

how are you using incel terminology but also trying to find queer women? pick a side.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:05 PM
5

its not about 'a lot of girls' saying yes, its about finding the ones who do want to say yes as quickly as possible, and eliminating the others so they dont waste your time. its called the numbers game.
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:48 PM
0

its not a good question. being subtle doesnt get you anywhere
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:47 PM
-7

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:47 PM
-6

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:47 PM
3

IOI doesnt matter. make the approach, find out how she really feels. stop pussyfooting around. communicate. leave no room for confusion.
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:45 PM
5

dont be subtle. make the approach, signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent. how can you play the numbers game while being subtle? you cant. its a waste of time. value your time. find a partner today
/r/seduction31/03/24 08:45 PM
2

even a lame date can work, but its better to make it idiot proof. put some effort into romance. but only after you signal intent. if he told her he wants to 'hang out' and he's trying to turn it into a date then its just a waste of time. thats not how you play the numbers game. and its not how you respect someones boundaries. respect is good game, communication is good game, confidence is good game. want a date? ask for one. signal intent. saves everyone from wasted time and awkwardness. such an…
/r/seduction30/03/24 10:09 PM
14

Is it actually a date? Did you actually signal intent ? gym dates are pretty lame homie. I think you're not setting yourself up for success. Try a rock climbing date. Its excercise, but its way more exciting than the gym. You dont want a date to feel mundane or routine in any way. You want it to feel special and exciting. But all the normal rules apply regardless of the venue. Signal intent, build rapport, and escalate with consent
/r/seduction30/03/24 09:57 PM
1

Even the best (most respectful and polite ) approach can trigger some people. Dont risk it.
/r/seduction29/03/24 04:51 AM
0

Have you ever actually made any approaches before little boy ?
/r/seduction29/03/24 03:51 AM
1

And you prefer to be a predator. Hope karma shows you what it's like to be touched against your will
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:20 PM
1

Learn what consent is and you will understand this concept No one has the right to touch your body without your permission
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:12 PM
-1

To talk about game. Game is inclusive of everyone. Except bigots.
/r/seduction28/03/24 04:29 PM
1

I have never had a hard time with not touching people against their will It's bad game and its creepy AF, and disrespectful
/r/seduction28/03/24 04:27 PM
0

That makes sense.
/r/seduction28/03/24 04:26 PM
0

to me thats all very tertiary to game itself, i dont see how it actually can help with your approach and seduction. to me its all about building intimacy
/r/seduction28/03/24 08:29 AM
-2

on why a violent misogynistic hate group is a bad place to pick up ideas and terminology? you need me to explain that to you?
/r/seduction28/03/24 08:28 AM
2

it is wrong, 2 isnt nearly enough. pump up those numbers homie
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:19 AM
1

bro you cant go into creep central and expect success. the women there will be on high alert. all the boys with ZERO game will be sabotaging you so hard. i wouldnt waste my time.
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:18 AM
1

flirting and sexual chemistry are great. they enhance game a lot. but ultimately theyre not needed if the rest of your game is solid. theyre not my strong suits and it doesnt hold me back.
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:17 AM
0

just because the guy is a cringy pathetic loser you think he's autistic? thats low.
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:16 AM
-1

dont use incel terminology homie
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:14 AM
1

you gonna get him banned from the gym lol dont make approaches at work
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:13 AM
1

i have had luck hitting on girls in their near proximity to make them jealous and/or cause them to let their guard down a bit. but def dont make approaches at work either way
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:12 AM
1

first of all; dont make approaches at the gym, or approach people at their work. second; approaching someone in the spotlight is playing on hard mode. why bother? there are some strategies that can work, but since shes AT WORK it really doesnt matter anyways
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:11 AM
0

do not touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:07 AM
1

yes to understanding escalation and social cues, but no to kino, do not touch anyone without their consent.
/r/seduction28/03/24 06:07 AM
1

having a roster is the best part for me (dont play mind games tho homie, its not needed, thats toxic shit )
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:52 AM
1

i just avoid them lol i totally bypass them. no smalltalk needed
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:52 AM
0

yikes. thats the opposite of everything ive ever done. how can you build intimacy with shallow conversation?
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:51 AM
1

dont focus on what not to do. focus on what to do. there are infinite ways to mess up, but just a few ways to do it right. you know the 4 steps to seduction? this is building rapport. having deep passionate, intimate conversations with someone. build the bond. it can be as simple as just asking what theyre passionate about. and sharing your own passions with them.
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:50 AM
2

this is either really bad game, or youve explained it so poorly that it is. you dont need to be risky to get laid. you can be correct and acceptable and still get laid. you just need to be attractive and have some game. signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent. thats it.
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:48 AM
1

homie being nice is a good thing, for this exact reason. but its ultimately tertiary. because you need to be MORE than just nice. you need to be romantic, intimate, and you need to escalate with consent
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:46 AM
3

none of that matters. be yourself. signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent. you dont need to take charge or pay for shit or be a man or masculine. game is for everyone,
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:45 AM
1

theres nothing wrong with being nice. nice is good. you cant be too nice. as long as you signal intent, build rapport, and escalate with consent then youre good. being nice will only make those things easier
/r/seduction28/03/24 05:44 AM
-8

lol they dont. what are you smoking?
/r/seduction23/03/24 09:54 PM
0

you cant escalate over text homie
/r/seduction23/03/24 08:45 PM
0

texting is dry. ask her out. dont waste time on 'text game' but 'no means no' very much applies too
/r/seduction23/03/24 08:44 PM
3

it can be as easy as asking them what theyre passionate about. most people love to talk about themselves. just stroke their ego and keep them on positive and personal topics and they'll have a great time.
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:57 PM
1

ask for consent
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:17 PM
2

just go back to your fundamentals and do a refresher i had an off night recently where i failed to get any contact info. i was rattled. but i wont make that mistake again. and its very very rare that this happens to me.
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:17 PM
3

nah theres tons of tactics. thats what game is. a systematic approach to dating to maximize success. if theres no system its not really game,
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:15 PM
6

if you dont understand strategy then tactics arent very useful, win the war not just a few battles start with the big picture, your fundamentals, and then zoom in to specifics. sounds like you need to know how to build rapport. have deep , meaningful, intimate conversations that build an emotional bond. not just superficial smalltalk. so focus on that if you want a specific skill but it wont replace a big-picture strategy
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:14 PM
3

its not different. night game is the same as day game, is the same as text game. stick to the basics, keep it simple, make sure your fundamentals are strong know the ABCs; Ability, body, charisma know the 4 steps to success; approach, signal, rapport, escalate with consent and play the numbers game. play the same game all day, all night, online, in person. make it second nature.
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:10 PM
2

im sure there are many ways to make it work. but my personal approach is to make sure youre friendly and talkative with all the girls, even the ones youre not interested in. be polite , charming, funny, witty. win over the whole group. not just the one you want to pick up.
/r/seduction16/03/24 03:50 PM
6

there are just a few ways for game to work, and infinite ways to have no game. dont focus on what doesnt work. the list is enormous. focus on what works. dont learn by subtraction. learn by understanding the fundamentals of game but if i had to answer; the biggest single turnoff is being too sexual too soon, and escalating too soon (and without consent). women are sick of it. theyre bombarded with it. they KNOW you want to fuck. you dont have to tell them. its a much bigger play to NOT be sexual…
/r/seduction16/03/24 03:48 PM
2

KISS- keep it simple silly. an approach should not be complicated at all. it should be extremely simple. the more simple; the fast it can be. and the faster it can be; the easier to play the numbers game. i really dont think complexity increases success rate at all.
/r/seduction16/03/24 03:45 PM
9

as long as youre not lying to anyone its all good. just be honest in your intentions if you just wanna be casual. also consider polyamory or ENM, not for everyone but can be a lot of fun if it suits you
/r/seduction15/03/24 11:38 PM
4

yes, but the women you attract will be negligible compared to the women you approach. do not wait for them to approach you, go make the approach yourself. and as you get better your success rate with all women will improve.
/r/seduction15/03/24 10:25 AM
1

Timing is everything. Make sure you have built a lot of rapport and try to find a romantic moment. Also make sure you ask for consent because it makes it easier to recover if you dont have enough rapport built yet. Groping someone is a turn off, but if she just says no it's easier to try again later
/r/seduction14/03/24 07:56 PM
1

I wouldn't say being playful is needed. I'm not a playful person. Without more detail on what you mean by the "correct context " I dont think i can help much tho.
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:17 PM
1

Yes for sure. In my experience people dont take you seriously unless you at least attempt to escalate (with consent )
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:15 PM
1

Frame is an attitude. And its staying focused. Its knowing what you want and going after it
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:19 PM
1

Def romance. If sex is more your goal then sure. I find the two basically go hand in hand. But there might be slight differences. You set the frame . Frame is you determining where things are going and not letting anything deviate Get rejected or achieve your goal. No compromise. No wasted time. Then play the numbers game
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:18 PM
1

lol no. frame is exactly your ability to create romance and intimacy REGARDLESS of the environment
/r/seduction14/03/24 08:00 AM
1

lol no
/r/seduction14/03/24 07:59 AM
1

frame is just being goal oriented. its being on task. just focus on the end game and dont let her deflect you. make her either reject you or accept escalation (with consent)
/r/seduction14/03/24 07:59 AM
2

consent is super important before touching someone, but you dont have to ask for consent to talk to someone lmfao if shes not down to talk shell let you know
/r/seduction14/03/24 07:56 AM
2

it depends on the venue. ive def had a lot of good luck at concerts. but once you get good at game you can make approaches anywhere. people are very receptive at concerts tho based on my experience.
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:29 PM
1

Same way you date any other girl . Stop overthinking and trying to be manipulative
/r/seduction13/03/24 02:49 PM
21

you dont need to be sexual. you need to signal intent. thats it. youre overcomplicating this just like OP
/r/seduction12/03/24 06:50 PM
-7

no one is allowed to touch you without your consent either
/r/seduction12/03/24 01:02 PM
-2

do not touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction12/03/24 01:00 PM
-7

do not touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction12/03/24 12:59 PM
-3

just ask for consent
/r/seduction12/03/24 12:59 PM
1

Then there's hope
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:57 AM
4

this sub is for pickup my man not relationships
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:38 AM
1

Can you devote 8 hours to one girl ? That might be 2 four hour dates. Might be hard in 1 week.
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:34 AM
1

You're really showing here that you dont understand the fundamentals of game. And aren't willing to put in the effort to be successful. If you cant even make 10 approaches at the bar what do you expect? And game should not involve small talk.
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:33 AM
1

yikes. do you know the '8 hour rule'? can you even apply it on your schedule?
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:28 AM
3

buddy is trying to improve. not cool to shit on him.
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:10 AM
0

just ask for consent
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:09 AM
1

having a plan is vital. understanding game is vital. but your specific examples seem pretty weak. i think youre focusing too hard on things which dont matter. get good game and 90% of women will be attracted to you, then you can pick and choose as you want. but trying to make sure a specific 5% of women are attracted seems counterproductive. its not needed,
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:07 AM
1

youre getting really distracted here by superficial BS. maximize your looks, yes. but if the rest of your game is on point it doesnt matter much. you can overcome your looks, especially with such a minor issue. a lot of people think im gay at first too, doesnt stop my game. if you play it right it can even enhance your game RE Russel Brand (shitty person yes, but he has game )
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:04 AM
3

charisma is a skill. you can learn it. but even without charisma you can still have success if you have character and if youre attractive. maximize your style, fitness, and hygeine. make sure your logistics are taken care of. and dont be a dick. be reliable, attentive, and affectionate. wont replace charm, but it will help.
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:01 AM
4

this question is way too broad my man. you need a whole guide, not a single answer
/r/seduction12/03/24 08:58 AM
6

2 things ; cheesy isnt bad if its genuine. be yourself. dont be fake. if youre naturally cheesy lean into it. if its just a nervous response cut it out when in doubt KISS. keep it simple silly. instead of 'youre cute and we danced' just say 'nice meeting you. when can i see you again?' . there is no need to add a lot of adjectives and description. keep it short and sweet. unless you have the game to back up some banter. then go nuts. but you dont need it. sticking to the basics is all you need. …
/r/seduction12/03/24 08:57 AM
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you can always trust someone to be themself if you know them you can trust them to do what theyre gonna do some people you know for years and dont know them, some people you know for hours and know them top to bottom. but dont assume someone is gonna do what YOU want them to do.
/r/seduction10/03/24 09:57 AM
134

DTA: Dont trust anybody No part of game involves implicit trust. trust is earned. it comes with time. DTA
/r/seduction10/03/24 09:46 AM
1

be yourself. easy
/r/seduction08/03/24 10:37 PM
11

you really dont know how wingmen work eh?
/r/seduction08/03/24 10:29 PM
29

depends on his level of game. most men crumple easily under pressure when you start teasing them. their ego is very weak and delicate. if theyre a real player tho then use them as a wingman.
/r/seduction08/03/24 10:28 PM
1

approach anxiety
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:44 AM
2

depends on your style of conversation i guess. i like to lead with something topical. last 3 approaches i made; 2 of them were at a karaoke bar, all i did was compliment their singing and song choice. and the 3rd was outside a bar, i saw a cute girl organizing her friends to go to an after party so i went over and told her me and my friends wanted to come, she said yes and we ended up going (fortunately my friends i was with were 2 pretty girls lol ) complimenting their fashion choice is always …
/r/seduction04/03/24 06:45 AM
4

ive been making approaches for like 13 years. if i hesitate i still get AA. dont hesitate. see the girl; make the approach. dont give yourself time to think and get anxious. approaching should be natural, almost unconscious. i will go places with zero intent to make any approaches, but if i see a girl its automatic to make the approach. so i end up meeting girls even in random places, because im always making approaches. its natural to me. i dont have to think about it. but if i do think about i…
/r/seduction03/03/24 01:59 PM
1

do not make smalltalk. that is boring AF and she'll think you, and the date are boring AF if you use smalltalk. engage in passionate and deep conversation. build intimacy. smalltalk is all surface level, you need to go deeper.
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:20 AM
1

just ask for consent, its easy
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:18 AM
1

yes. your time is valuable! cherish it !
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:09 AM
2

yeah. and/or focus on your successes. i get rejected a LOT, because i make a lot of approaches. but i'm also successful a lot. i focus on the successes and forget the rejections.
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:09 AM
3

she just saved you from wasting additional time on someone it was never gonna work out with. thats a blessing. your time is valuable. seduction is all about efficiency, playing the numbers game. how do you 'deal'? move on, keep making approaches. rejection is part of the process. if your height is an issue make sure you mention it ASAP to keep people from wasting your time.
/r/seduction03/03/24 02:08 AM
2

Yeah that's why you dont try to close over text lol
/r/seduction05/11/22 01:03 PM
8

Yeah I'm 34 and started game when i was 22. Big life changer. Ive been doing it on and off since. The game hasn't really changed tho. Just keep applying your skills and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction05/11/22 01:02 PM
0

Attempt to escalate with consent. That's communication. If they decline then go back to building intimacy and try again later.
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:31 PM
0

No, don't sexually assault someone and count on them telling you to stop if theybdont like it. WTF is wrong with you?
/r/seduction31/10/22 07:28 PM
22

Lol no that's bullshit. Women can be forward, men can be docile.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:18 AM
1

If she declines the escalation go back to building intimacy and try again later. As lif as you're asking for consent it's all good. How many times you wanna go through the cycle is on you.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:08 AM
7

You're gonna be waiting a long time pal
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:07 AM
-2

Always attempt to escalate. Always. As long as you're asking for consent you cant go wrong.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:06 AM
1

You dont need to sense interest, just communicate like an adult
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:04 AM
-17

Its arguably worse for women, they get used and abused a lot more than men do.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:04 AM
56

i guess the good thing about being such a loser before learning game is that i didnt have any bad habits to unlearn lol i was a blank slate
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:39 AM
0

pick your spot and ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:33 AM
0

100% just make sure you ask for consent
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:22 AM
-6

dont touch anyone without their consent creep
/r/seduction25/10/22 07:37 AM
5

I'd hit the club my man
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:29 AM
0

lol no
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:09 AM
1

no rookie questions. find her passions with probing questions.
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:09 AM
1

no rookie questions. just ask her.
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:08 AM
2

do you have a particular girl in mind or youre trying to pick up? for pickup a club is best. but if there's a girl you have your eyes on go for her.
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:07 AM
0

'how to build health friendships' and 'how to get dates youre actually excited about' but good job at trying to take things out of context lmfao
/r/seduction23/10/22 10:18 AM
-4

My posts dealing with my mental health issues have nothing to do with my game. You can be drowning in pussy and still have mental health problems. Believe me. And I'm only dismissive to morons spreading blatant sexist misinformation. You're dragging down the game of everyone who reads your shit
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:33 AM
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What are you even talking about ? I've been doing game on and off for 12 years. Very successfully. You're spreading base misinformation based on some misogynistic " alpha male " bullshit. That's not how you succeed in seduction. Engage reality. Drop all this sexist propaganda
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:29 AM
2

Bodylanguage have to be BS aswell, or?
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:17 AM
-3

what does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:07 AM
-10

lol no
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:06 AM
-1

IOIs are BS man.
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:05 AM
1

Numbers game. Closure. And to combat approach anxiety. The only way to know if they're into you is to make the approach.
/r/seduction21/10/22 12:17 AM
1

to launch the conversation 'hello' works. but yes you do need to have some conversation skills to follow up with. at least 75% of the time. 25% of the time she really will do the work for you. some people like chatting.
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:46 AM
1

I wouldn't game the office. Most of the same principles apply, but yeah when you cant play the numbers game you have to be a lot more chill.
/r/seduction20/10/22 02:12 AM
3

I agree 100% . Just make sure you include consent and you cant go wrong. Always be bold. Always make the approach ASAP. Always attempt to escalate. And if things go wrong always maintain frame and confidence. Remember; you're THE MAN and you're doing her a favour by giving her your time. If she doesn't see that then that's her loss not yours. Be polite. But never let it shake you.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:03 PM
2

Build some intimacy first and then yes go for it. Fortune favours the bold. If you burn out ; move on. Play the numbers game. If you're a rookie its gonna be rough no matter what. But keep following the steps and playing the numbers game and polishing your game till it pays off.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:00 PM
4

its a cheesy, cliched, bait and switch kinda approach. im sure it can work if done right, but i just find it a bit sleazy and overly complicated personally. just start with 'hello'
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:53 PM
1

And you're speaking out of your ass
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:22 PM
1

It's why you do it that matters.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:14 PM
4

Never heard of him. But the advice above is certainly not original to me. I've been doing game for 12 years on and off and these are just some of the basics I had to learn when I started.
/r/seduction19/10/22 11:18 AM
0

I chose to be who I am. I stand with those who made the same choices. Conforming blindly is not the same thing
/r/seduction19/10/22 11:16 AM
2

Who?
/r/seduction19/10/22 10:44 AM
1

how about you try being yourself instead of being a sheep and caving to the pressures you feel society is putting on you. self love comes from within. you're just chasing external validation right now. its gonna leave you hollow
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:42 AM
0

nope. youre thinking of r/relationships maybe. this sub is for pickup. and posts are supposed to be tailored to that framework
/r/seduction19/10/22 07:30 AM
4

i dunno if 22 counts as a 'late bloomer' but i was a kissless virgin at 22 when i started doing game. took a while but pretty quickly i became known as a 'ladies' man'. just study the game, and go practice. dont get distracted by BS. learn the basics really well and then execute them well. thats all you need. a lot of the advice here is advanced techniques which arent even really needed if you have the basics down. and without those basics the advanced techniques really arent useful anyways.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:55 AM
1

depends on your conversational style. i use anecdotes because thats my style. start with raunchy humour and then drift into sex talk if shes receptive.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:49 AM
1

nah. no point. you cant escalate over text
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:49 AM
0

toxic BS. game isnt just for men. and you dont need to be masculine to pull women. stop trying to conform and be yourself.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:47 AM
1

if you need to build intimacy long distance then use phone call or video calls. not text or snap. but its still not recommended . you cant escalate over the phone
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:45 AM
1

always make the approach. always
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:44 AM
2

never approach at the gym
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:43 AM
1

learn game. stick to the basics. you dont have to be interesting to keep interest. you keep their interest by building intimacy
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:43 AM
1

what does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:42 AM
2

what does this have to do with pickup? make your approach. shoot your shot. stop fucking around.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:41 AM
0

there was no switch for me. it was a slow grind. i started at the bottom so it took a long time.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:40 AM
1

this sub is for pickup bro.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:38 AM
1

no rookie topics. stick to the basics. remember; signal intent.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:38 AM
1

days ending with 'Y' are good days for dates
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:37 AM
-1

nope. who gave you that advice? make the convo deep ASAP. cut to the chase. build intimacy fast, then escalate. sweep her off her feet. dont fuck around and waste everyones time with pedantic BS
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:37 AM
1

what does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:35 AM
1

why would you ever think thats a good idea to disclose?
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:35 AM
10

always try to escalate with consent. always. key words; with consent.
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:33 AM
-2

no rookie questions man. seek passionate convo. not smalltalk. 'fun' is subjective. find what she thinks is fun
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:32 AM
1

pickup isnt gendered :P
/r/seduction19/10/22 04:21 AM
1

As long as you're polite it's always good to approach. Just in certain circumstances (work, gym, transit) it's not always appropriate to close, or (perhaps more often) the setting itself guarantees a very fake response that ultimately proves a waste of everyone's time But outside of those 3 places its almost always okay to approach
/r/seduction16/10/22 12:18 AM
1

do not touch anyone without their consent regardless of if you think they are jumpy or not.
/r/seduction15/10/22 06:47 PM
2

ive been doing game on and off for 12 years. if i see a cute girl i need to make my approach ASAP. if i delay i will get anxious, i will get nervous. can you overcome that? yes. think of your past successes, think of your skillset and your good attributes. hype yourself up and go for it. but by far the best thing to do is simply make the approach without even thinking. do not hesitate. see girl; approach girl. (as long as youre in an appropriate place to make an approach that is. not the gym, no…
/r/seduction15/10/22 06:42 PM
3

What does this have to do with pickup?
/r/seduction11/10/22 08:04 AM
6

For sure. I've hooked up with girls I thought didnt even like me lol and I've also struck out with girls who were throwing green flags. You never really know till you escalate
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:08 PM
13

fuck off with the IOIs man. they dont matter. make the approach. see what happens. thats all that matters
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:32 PM
1

youre just trolling at this point. why are you in a pickup sub if you dont even do pickup?
/r/seduction03/10/22 04:35 AM
2

many people go to the bar to meet others, thats not why theyre at the gym. and you dont pay a monthly sub to go to the bar, you dont go there every day. its not the same at all you can approach anyone you want in public. women, girls, men, boys, whatever you're into. just leave them alone when they cant be honest or exit the situation.
/r/seduction03/10/22 04:04 AM
-2

No you shouldn't be forced to leave a gym you paid to be at by some douchebag. That's your space, its not public space, you paid for it. And no it wasnt appropriate to approach on a plane. Respect peoples space. Public space is not the same as private space. You need a lesson in consent and respect.
/r/seduction03/10/22 03:13 AM
-1

No you can make approaches anywhere that the other person is in the clear to be honest with you, and anywhere they're free to leave. But dont make approaches to a captive audience, cause they wont get honest results. Dont approach at work, the gym, or on transit Game 101
/r/seduction03/10/22 02:04 AM
-3

dont make approaches at the gym.
/r/seduction02/10/22 09:49 PM
3

asinine. dont make smalltalk. find passionate conversation topics. thats game 101.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:11 AM
0

No, he should level up his game
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:16 PM
1

Learn game Review what you should be doing Compare to your experience and find your weak area Then go and try again Remember the basics : make the approach, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent If you're already on a date the issue is likely building intimacy
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:25 PM
-3

Lmfao if you cant ask for consent then you have no game and no business making approaches
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:14 PM
8

Confidence is having self esteem even when you get rejected. Confidence is being okay with being honest and genuine, and being okay with that getting you rejected Confidence is not playing games or trying to be someone you're not Confidence is no bullshit. Here I am, take me or leave me. If you cant see the good in me then you're blind. It's your loss. But I'm not changing for anyone. I'm proud of who I am
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:12 PM
1

this sub is for pickup, not relationships
/r/seduction30/09/22 11:57 AM
7

learn game. stop whining. there is no paradox
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:04 AM
43

bro i fucked this chick till 5am and she still threw me out lmfao women these days dont care. they want dick, not cuddles.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:55 AM
0

paying someone for affection
/r/seduction28/09/22 06:03 AM
0

bro this is a pickup sub. youre talking about sex work here not pickup
/r/seduction28/09/22 04:52 AM
-5

dont touch anyone without their consent. physical escalation starts with verbal game.
/r/seduction25/09/22 07:32 AM
0

Sexual predators will use that BS as an excuse and you know that
/r/seduction23/09/22 11:48 PM
0

I dont know how to "prove " to you that you should care about other people and not treat them as objects
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:48 PM
0

The ideology that you should be allowed to say who can touch you and who cant ? If that's something you're opposed to then we're not gonna find common ground. I'll make sure to give you lots of kino if we ever meet tho. You can always "block me " if you dont like me touching you :P that'll be a pleasant experience right ?
/r/seduction23/09/22 12:03 PM
0

It needs to be verbal. And verbal game is the best game. Even if it didnt NEED to be verbal (which it does ) . Verbal game is the best game.
/r/seduction23/09/22 04:07 AM
0

No. That is how it works in reality. Dont touch someone without their consent. Dont make someone "block you " from touching them. You sound like a major creep
/r/seduction23/09/22 04:06 AM
-1

I've been doing pickup for 12 years mate. Consent is good game. It does have to be verbal. And if you cant turn her on verbally you have no game in the first place
/r/seduction23/09/22 04:05 AM
-1

You always need to ask for verbal consent Just because someone wants to touch you doesn't mean they're ready to do so
/r/seduction22/09/22 08:04 PM
4

Keep playing the numbers game. And keep refining your technique. You'll get there
/r/seduction22/09/22 08:03 PM
0

consent is always good game. shows respect, confidence, and communication. 3 fundamentals of game.
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:46 PM
-2

Yep. that's the way to do it. Not everyone is comfy with physical contact, even before the overlapping pandemic nightmare began
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:28 PM
2

pickup isnt gendered. and it doesnt involve deceit and manipulation. pickup is a way of making real genuine connections fast. finding people you are truly compatible with.
/r/seduction22/09/22 09:08 AM
6

2/20 isnt bad really. but ultimately i find experimentation to be the best way to improve. keep trying new approaches. success will be your feedback
/r/seduction22/09/22 09:03 AM
-8

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:54 AM
2

study game. game isnt about changing your personality, its about finding people who appreciate your personality.
/r/seduction17/09/22 10:15 AM
1

Body is just one of the ABCs of game. as long as you have Ability and Charisma you'll be fine. Game isnt just for 'hot people'
/r/seduction17/09/22 10:04 AM
2

you're again saying 'autisitc' as if thats somehow a bad thing? i mean no, game isnt just for autistic people. thats dumb. game is for everyone. everyone wants to get better. but do you actually have something against autistic people?
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:56 AM
1

youve clearly never done sales before lmfao. sales is about finding the right customer for your product, as fast as possible. thats it. just like game. and its not a generational thing. or a gender thing. game is for everyone who wants more success in sex and love. empathy is great. but game tells you HOW to express your feelings
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:40 AM
1

its not autistic. its a system of finding compatibility quickly. or building rapport quickly. and of getting rid of people who you have no rapport or compatibility with quickly. 'how to win friends and influence people' or just 'how to sell yourself' sales and relationships and seduction dont come naturally to everyone. and even for those who can do it; they might want to do it quicker, or in higher volume. thats what game is for
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:33 AM
2

there are no 'training wheels ' in game. we all apply the same lessons, just to different levels of execution. the issue is people are out there saying you can learn to bicycle without the need to pedal at all, just buy their BS book and watch their BS youtube. and they'll keep giving you that BS advice till you run out of money
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:25 AM
2

start with the wiki
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:23 AM
3

'you guys' is a pretty broad net to cast. pickup works. game works. a lot of people try to make it more complicated than it needs to be to sell their bullshit. but if you stick to the fundamentals; thats all you need. forget all the other BS. just learn the basics, understand them well, and execute
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:04 AM
2

SO FOLLOW THE RULES! and go apply your knowledge of game. charisma my man. the ABCs. Ability, body, charisma. Thats what it's all about
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:57 AM
-4

because you havent actually studied game, or even read the rules to this sub; NO ROOKIE POSTS!
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:53 AM
1

apply some game. seek passionate communication. engage their interests. build rapport. then escalate with consent. this is basic shit man.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:07 AM
1

if youve been to the bar more than a handful of times you know that damn near everything is 'realistic' lmfao
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:25 AM
1

might be a lame response but Tony Montana from Scarface had so much swagger. just unassailable confidence even tho he looks like a pug lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:12 AM
3

dunno why youre being downvoted. this is the best response. this sub is about pickup !
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:09 AM
2

it def helps yeah. ive slept with lots of my female friends, and theyre generally good wingwomen and good at introducing me to other girls. but thats not really a 'game' question. game is about cold approach
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:08 AM
2

You can def play football if you're out of shape. And you can game if you're out of shape. But you have to at least know what the rules of the game are. Fitness alone won't win a football game. Just like it wont guarantee success in game. It helps. Yes. But ultimately you need to learn game to really succeed
/r/seduction16/09/22 05:16 PM
5

THE WIKI THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE SUB!
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:56 PM
8

Yeah So they should stop whining, do some research, and then get to work
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:42 PM
4

Obey the rules and people are pretty nice. But this isnt a sub for rookies and whiners. It's a learning sub.
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:26 PM
5

Start with the wiki But no rookie posts or questions are allowed here. So every post should be a font of knowledge if the mods are enforcing the rules
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:19 PM
1

The wiki attached to the sub
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:15 PM
1

Start with the wiki. But this whole sub is supposed to explain it. That's why no rookie posts or questions are allowed by the rules
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:11 PM
1

as many as it takes. but numbers game is just one aspect of game. you need to know the entire flow. not just one part of it.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:54 PM
1

You move on to the next girl then. The numbers game. It works.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:38 PM
1

A woman can reject you. But that's why we play the numbers game. You cant win if you dont play tho. Learn the rules. Get in the game. Stop whining from the sidelines.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:31 PM
0

No. Game is how to make her interested.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:29 PM
2

learn how. apply yourself. all the tools are right here. you just need to get off your butt and do it.
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:58 PM
2

what does this have to do with game? quit soap-boxing and go get laid.
/r/seduction16/09/22 06:21 AM
0

once you learn game you realize that ship goes where you direct it to go.
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:12 AM
0

learn game. and there are no beginner posts allowed BTW. read the wiki
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:11 AM
1

what does this have to do with game?
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:11 AM
0

nope
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:10 AM
1

no. pickup is a specific skillset tailored to cold approach.
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:08 AM
4

Nah
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:33 PM
-11

bro this sub is for game, not for friends
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:22 PM
7

what does this have to do with game?
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:22 PM
0

energy projection is important yes, but how you say something is all part of your charisma. its not separate. its not an action. its still talking. you absolutely can talk someone into feeling for you, if you know how to talk. and knowing how to talk includes the body language and energy projection. those aren't 'actions' theyre still just part of talking. youre selling mixed messages here and a link to a shitty clickbait youtube video lmfao what a waste of time
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:08 PM
1

if you fuck her right it'll take care of itself
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:41 PM
1

Pickup is about picking up. It's all about cold approach and gaming OLD
/r/seduction15/09/22 04:28 AM
1

thats not pickup, thats just dating
/r/seduction14/09/22 06:14 PM
1

Cold approach is the heart of pickup . If you're not making approaches you're not gaming
/r/seduction14/09/22 03:24 PM
0

lmfao then why are you on a pickup sub? its pretty clear youve never tried cold approach my dude, or else your game is just super weak. lots of people are very happy to be approached. you just need to have some charm
/r/seduction14/09/22 08:56 AM
2

Even better
/r/seduction14/09/22 03:16 AM
2

Part of game is making them horny yes
/r/seduction14/09/22 02:29 AM
6

smiles, body language, straight up telling me, and then fucking me, and then being clingy AF asking to go out again
/r/seduction13/09/22 01:32 PM
7

not my experience at all. ive been on lots of boring-ass dates where my date had a great time and was DTF. some people just live boring-ass lives and whats a 5/10 for me in terms of excitement might be a 9/10 for them.
/r/seduction13/09/22 01:18 PM
1

Game is a system of filtering and screening out people who you're not conpatible with so only the gold remains. It's all about knowing the system and playing the numbers game Although yes being a better and more attractive you will also help a lot
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:00 AM
1

Start with the wiki and go from there
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:58 AM
1

go ask r/dating this sub is for pickup
/r/seduction11/09/22 10:16 AM
0

who cares? stop overthinking what fake persona you wanna put out there and be yourself. game is about seeking compatibility. it works for all personality types.
/r/seduction11/09/22 10:15 AM
0

Its a skill that will help with all aspects of your social life.
/r/seduction10/09/22 07:48 PM
14

become fun and charismatic. make approaches. learn game. game is a skill like any other.
/r/seduction10/09/22 05:43 AM
17

for the purposes of game it doesnt matter. if youre trying to build a real relationship then go ask r/dating . but just because theyre self absorbed doesnt mean you cant hit it
/r/seduction10/09/22 04:18 AM
1

No they dont. Just give them the good food. And I'm not naive. I just don't see the need for the useless bullshit. I'm here to game, not play games.
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:25 AM
2

yeah most rookies will waste their time on bad advice and bad game, and thats all youre feeding them. there's no need. just give them some actual good advice. its not like theres a huge amount of that on this sub in the first place
/r/seduction09/09/22 03:32 PM
1

again; youre distracting from real useful game with all of this manipulative BS. its not needed, it doesnt help. game doesnt need to be 'dirty' or immoral. just focus on the fundamentals and you'll be more than fine. you dont need to compromise your morals for game. it wont win you extra success.
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:30 PM
2

you think in 12 years of pickup i havent dated more than 50 people? are you insane?
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:07 PM
1

no man, thats a toxic mindset. and its all unnecessary. its a sideshow. its something con-men use to sell books and training courses. to make it seem more complicated than it is. stick to fundamentals. thats all you need. you dont need to lie to pull
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:05 PM
2

nope youre playing stupid games and assuming everyone else is too. healthy people dont do that. grow up. start being honest with yourself and with other people. only insecure people hide behind all this bullshit ive been doing pickup for 12 years. no need for games, no need for bullshit, just be straight with people, be confident, and communicate and you will be fine youre psyching yourself out and focusing on the wrong things. none of this BS is needed for game . its a weak distraction.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:58 PM
-8

shit tests arent a thing, thats just pickup artist bullshit. dont play games, communicate like an adult and you wont have an issue.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:49 PM
10

couldnt agree more. these bros aint loyal
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:22 AM
-1

you get respect by showing respect, invest in your manners
/r/seduction09/09/22 10:16 AM
12

I have a hard time putting myself in their shoes. I think its up to my friends to make their own decisions about who to fuck and who not to fuck. Any time I've tried to cockblock a dude away from my friends they get mad and accuse me of being jealous or wanting to fuck them lol Although if they're not interested and the guy wont fuck off then yeah I can shepherd them away
/r/seduction08/09/22 10:51 AM
30

not sure if this is the best response, but i generally just 'turn on the charm' and try to win over the friend too. its not a scenario i have a lot of experience with, but in the past ive managed to get the numbers of both of them at times, or at least to chill out the 'sidekick' enough to be laughing at my jokes and okay with me hanging out in their group. curious to see other response tho
/r/seduction08/09/22 10:26 AM
11

groomer vibes
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:21 AM
2

go for it on the first date! always attempt to escalate! just make sure you ask for consent and you can do no wrong
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:23 AM
5

thats a pretty epic fuckup man. have you never heard of the 8 hour rule? you wanna fuck within the first 8 hours of meeting. whether thats 4 2-hour dates or 8 1-hour dates, or whatever. you should be trying to fuck within that first 8 hours for sure. any longer and the chemistry isnt there. always attempt to escalate (with consent)
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:22 AM
48

if you have to ask this question theyre probably out of your age range. stick with partners your own age
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:20 AM
0

who cares? attempt to escalate with consent. if theyre not down; dump them. dont entertain time wasters.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:45 AM
0

always attempt to escalate. at least at the end of the date if not before. its paid off for me before in surprising ways. sometimes the kiss and the chemistry mitigates a bad date. but also always ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:32 AM
2

thats like saying youre a great cook except youre afraid of actually cooking anything lmfao
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:27 AM
1

im about a 50/50 split. but it depends on your friend group and how much time youre putting into game
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:11 AM
2

make the approach
/r/seduction06/09/22 02:21 AM
1

A lot of it is the tone, your body language, and the way you ask. "How bad do you want me to kiss you right now?" Is a good line. But its really all about how you say it
/r/seduction05/09/22 07:31 AM
2

Fuck signs. Make the approach. Then you'll known for sure. Just don't make approaches a the gym or at work. That's trashy
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:01 PM
0

Stop complaining, go and learn game. Start getting laid
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:58 PM
-1

Game isnt winning the lottery. It's working smarter, rather than harder. Even when ineas 310lbs i was still getting laid, cause I know game. But it still got easier when I slimmed down.
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:42 PM
1

Self improvement is part of game, but the main part of game is just to learn game. If you have success then yeah you dont need to improve. Success can come just from learning game.
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:41 PM
8

if you believe that then you've never done cold approach lmfao
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:15 PM
12

Length isnt your goal. Passion and intimacy are your goals. Escalation is your goal. A long talk about nothing can be hella annoying and hurt your game
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:27 AM
14

Two consenting adults who agree to "use each other " is not a bad thing. Game can, and should, involve honesty and consent. And game is not gendered either. Women can use game, NBs can use game, queers can use game. Game is universal Game is just a way of making connections more quickly. It's a system that leads to success in intimacy. Nothing more.
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:15 AM
5

No its not
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:55 AM
11

lmfao my friends have no issues getting laid. i assure you 'normal people' have lots of sex. just not with you
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:49 AM
17

"Normal people " like to get laid bro.
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:24 AM
90

Lmfao what kind of people are you associating with ? My friends want to see me successful in love and sex, they are also dating. I want to see them successful. Pickup is only bad when you use it for manipulation and objectification. But there is no need to do that. That's on you.
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:15 AM
2

You'll both win, because game is about finding people who are down with you as you are We all define success differently. Game is about finding people who share your definition
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:24 PM
1

learn game you mamaluke
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:09 PM
3

you dont need any of that shit. you just need to know how to game
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:07 PM
3

you know nothing about game. this is total BS literally none of that shit matters
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:06 PM
3

same as anyone else. make the approach, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent. remember; game is about seeking compatibility. if youre not compatible it wont work. just be yourself. and be prepared to appreciate them for who they are
/r/seduction03/09/22 04:48 AM
7

not just limited to women, but yes youre right. and thats why you need to keep trying to escalate. dont let people keep you on the hook. force them to ditch you or commit
/r/seduction03/09/22 04:47 AM
9

Numbers game is part of it yes. But you can def improve your chances by experimenting and learning. Even something like trying different outfits on different nights can help you level up.
/r/seduction02/09/22 11:43 AM
16

Seems like a waste to me. Go to the bar friday night. make 20 approaches back to back. Fine tune your technique. Do it again Saturday and Sunday. That's 60 approaches. Pretty soon you'll find an approach that works for you. If you do one approach a day your basis for comparison will be hazy , your volume will be low, and you might never get in the zone.
/r/seduction02/09/22 11:20 AM
7

That's not my experience
/r/seduction02/09/22 11:12 AM
58

so why overthink about her if youre not into her anyways. move on.
/r/seduction02/09/22 09:42 AM
25

i would assume it meant she felt comfy around you, to me that means she's DTF. did you attempt to escalate with consent?
/r/seduction02/09/22 09:41 AM
49

there is no non-greasy way to do that lol but if you wanna do it then you can contact the friend under the guise of talking about the original girl. do some recon. how tight are they? if theyre very close you cant switch easily. if theyre not super tight that'll make it easier. you can meet up with the new girl under pretense of talking about the original girl and then make the switch once youre with her. its very risky no matter what tho. and greasy. very greasy
/r/seduction01/09/22 09:20 AM
4

last time i was out i told a girl her blouse matched my underwear. leopard print lmfao so i guess observational? my other approach that night i told her she and her partner looked really cute together. she told me that wasnt her partner. she was single. very disarming approach got both their numbers only made 3 approaches that night because i was with my friends. the other 1 was an amicable failure. i think i complimented her song choice cause we were at a karaoke bar
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:44 AM
0

youre overthinking this too much. and youre overthinking things which dont even matter. do you understand game? thats all that matters. fundamentals. once you understand game; go and make approaches. fine tune your approach from there. personality doesnt matter. confidence matters. knowing who you are and being honest matters. but for game the MAIN thing is just knowing the process. approach, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent. thats it.
/r/seduction01/09/22 04:11 AM
0

always always try to escalate. just use consent. she can always say 'no'. thats a lot better than an unwanted kiss. thats one reason why consent is good game
/r/seduction01/09/22 04:00 AM
-2

ask for consent and you cant go wrong
/r/seduction01/09/22 03:59 AM
-5

I always ask. Works great. It's good game. And it's the law Shows respect, confidence, and communication. And keeps you from catching charges Sexual assault is bad game If you dont have the verbal skills and confidence to ask then you shouldn't be doing pickup in the first place
/r/seduction31/08/22 09:02 AM
-7

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction31/08/22 08:10 AM
2

i feel that my man. i like a punk-rock style that probably makes me look like a bit of a hooligan, but im actually a pretty low-ki and laid back kinda guy. for me tho the look still attracts the kinda of women im into so its not really a big handicap
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:50 AM
14

you cant escalate over FT so its generally a bad idea. calling and video calling can be used to build intimacy before a date. but if you already have a date scheduled; keep contact minimal. save it for the date where you can escalate.
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:39 AM
1

bingo
/r/seduction30/08/22 10:54 PM
-1

lmfao all women do not like to be dominated in bed. youre joking. or youre a virgin. come off it
/r/seduction30/08/22 10:52 PM
1

thats called being a gentleman lmfao
/r/seduction30/08/22 10:51 PM
0

im a masc-presenting NB and yeah women feel safe and comfy around me. cause i dont have my head up my ass about gender roles like you do lmfao. im myself. im not projecting some 'alpha male' mask that someone else dreamed up for me. and yeah i do have big dick energy and i dont take shit. you can be assertive and tough and queer at the same time you know. you need to drop your preconceptions and prejudices. ultimately i think in addition to being more real and genuine queer people also tend to u…
/r/seduction30/08/22 10:49 PM
-1

They do! Go look it up ! Its not my job to educate you on consent or your local laws. that's on you.
/r/seduction30/08/22 07:50 PM
0

virtually every developed country has laws against sexual assault, including codified definitions of assault and consent. for the most part theyre nearly identical in different countries. at least in developed countries.
/r/seduction30/08/22 07:34 PM
-1

Game isnt just for gynophiles And if you dont have the verbal skills to turn them on enough to say yes, and ask in a sexy way, then you have no game Consent shows respect, confidence, and communication. It's good game. And it's the law. Sexually assaulting someone shows a total lack of confidence, respect, and communication, and it's illegal
/r/seduction30/08/22 07:21 PM
-4

Go and look it up. It cannot be implied. Passivity does not give consent. It must be verbal and enthusiastic. The law is very specific about it.
/r/seduction30/08/22 07:17 PM
-2

Go and look up the definition of consent. It literally has to be verbal.
/r/seduction30/08/22 07:08 PM
-17

No. Consent has to be verbal
/r/seduction30/08/22 06:35 PM
1

just be yourself man. the truth always comes out eventually. dont be fake
/r/seduction30/08/22 06:11 PM
1

ive got 2 selfies to show my face, and the rest body shots doing various fun things (beach, mountains, forest, axe throwing, etc)
/r/seduction30/08/22 06:11 PM
-18

yeah. sexual assault is not the way you want to sexualize things
/r/seduction30/08/22 06:09 PM
-23

*ask for consent to kiss her
/r/seduction30/08/22 05:38 PM
51

the opposite of platonic isnt sexual, you can have platonic sex. the opposite of platonic is romantic.
/r/seduction30/08/22 05:38 PM
1

ask for consent and you cant go wrong
/r/seduction29/08/22 12:13 PM
2

ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction29/08/22 12:12 PM
1

'blatant' usually works well for me. but thats just my personality perhaps lol
/r/seduction27/08/22 09:16 AM
3

Game. Build intimacy. Then escalate. The first step in escalation can be turning them on with sex talk.
/r/seduction26/08/22 03:39 PM
10

There are 2 parts to being a good wing Contrast. Offer the girls a choice. If your wing is the boy next door, you be the bad boy. If your wing is country, you be rock n roll. Do not compete with each other. Compliment each other. The best wings physically are your opposites too for this reason. Support. Put your wing over. Make them look like a million bucks. Talk them up. Tell stories that put them over. Let them be modest and confident while you praise them. That's pretty much it. The only oth…
/r/seduction26/08/22 02:18 PM
5

Sex talk Start with a funny and sexy story. Then move to straight sexy stories and questions. Humor is such a good vehicle to test the waters and warm her up
/r/seduction26/08/22 11:33 AM
4

Start by turning her on verbally and move from there.
/r/seduction26/08/22 11:31 AM
0

You should def look up the definitions of those words my dude 😂😂😂 You're clowning yourself more than I thought possible.
/r/seduction26/08/22 11:19 AM
0

I believe the word you're grasping for is sapience
/r/seduction26/08/22 11:09 AM
7

You do need to pick your battles that's true.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:52 AM
1

That's a lot of words for "I've never had a real conversation with a woman before " lmfao
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:43 AM
1

respect, communication, and confidence. those are 3 cornerstones of good game. and asking for consent lets you show all 3.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:31 AM
1

lmfao you reposting this cause you didnt like the advice? youre a clown
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:30 AM
1

ive already explained why consent is good game. and its also the law. and the right thing to do. you're the one with the bad advice mate. youre behind the times.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:26 AM
1

how many men have you even fucked? i think youre the one trying to conceal their inexperience.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:17 AM
0

nope. behaviour is changing. we dont tap on the shoulder anymore because its not worth asking consent over. we dont touch people now unless its worth the conversation. thats a good change. welcome to 2022. you now have more control over your own body. everyone does. its a win. and when you want to touch someone; you have to be deliberate. you have to make it a conversation. you have to step up your game.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:16 AM
3

it isnt different mate . sex is sex. unless its with you; then its called a 'disappointing mistake' lmfao
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:12 AM
5

when you have a double standard based on gender; thats sexism mate. women enjoy sex; get over it. they just dont enjoy sex with you lmfao
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:10 AM
0

well thats likely because tapping someone on the shoulder isnt really worth doing. its something thats gone now that we have normalized consent. but then again you picked it deliberately to be absurd didnt you?
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:09 AM
2

sexism. gotcha.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:05 AM
0

lmfao it's 2022 my dude. youre gonna have to move into the 21st century sometime.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:04 AM
3

one is business one is, presumably, pleasure. why ? you have an issue with sex workers too?
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:03 AM
5

90% of the players on here are sluts lmfao are you trying to say we're all low value? or youre just being sexist?
/r/seduction26/08/22 09:58 AM
18

i disagree. im not very attractive. but i can turn women on verbally. ive seen a lot of girls start to look at me in a totally different way once i was able to have the right convo with them. most guys couldnt find the G spot with a map, if you let them know you can get the job done for them theyre gonna be very interested. these girls are freaks, they want to have a partner who can take them to their limits too
/r/seduction26/08/22 09:56 AM
1

I work in security. Before you touch anyone you need consent. People are looking for reasons to sue. And some people are easily triggered too. You dont have any autistic friends? sexual assault survivors? Aside from that; its good game to ask. it shows respect, communication, and confidence. Its the right thing to do on all counts. And its so low effort that if youre not asking it reveals a lot about what you think of other people and their bodily autonomy.
/r/seduction26/08/22 09:53 AM
1

always better to ask. costs nothing and can save a lot of heat and litigation.
/r/seduction26/08/22 09:49 AM
11

dont be subtle. turn her on, make sure she knows its deliberate. then escalate with consent.
/r/seduction26/08/22 06:37 AM
2

Lmfao women are down with effeminate men dude. Being masculine is not needed for game, not for anyone
/r/seduction26/08/22 03:28 AM
2

A decent person you mean ? Yeah
/r/seduction26/08/22 03:28 AM
2

Lmfao i dont get friendzoned man
/r/seduction26/08/22 03:27 AM
2

Works great for me
/r/seduction26/08/22 02:40 AM
0

Nope!
/r/seduction26/08/22 02:39 AM
1

Game knows no gender caveman. You dont have to be Male or masculine or dominant to game. Those things are all totally unnecessary to good game Consent, respect, communication and good manners are however all needed
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:41 PM
0

Sorry I have low regard for sexual predators and people actively advocating in favour of assault
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:37 PM
0

Because I dont sexually assault people ?
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:34 PM
0

Meh. That's why we play the numbers game
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:30 PM
-1

Gotta work hard, also gotta work smart. Sadly theres a lot of bad advice floating around
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:28 PM
0

I mean.... that's your call man. But game is pretty easy to do if you actually do want some women. You just need to put in the work
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:26 PM
-6

I'm living my best life.
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:22 PM
-11

My schedule is so full I have to prioritize them. 💪
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:21 PM
-4

Once you get it then its easy yeah. Makes it so much more embarrassing for those incel chumps who cry into their keyboards all day all alone with their virginity lmfao
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:16 PM
5

Even when you're being honest with people you risk hurting feelings. Just be honest and upfront and dont be afraid of the consequences. As long as you are honest you have nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes shit just happens As far as getting into a situation ship ; learn game. Read the wiki. Make approaches.
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:15 PM
3

"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them" -Margaret Atwood. That's why safety, respect, and consent need to be part of game
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:13 PM
2

whats that supposed to mean? ive dated bouncers before
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:00 PM
3

fuck off with the incel bullshit man. go make some approaches. get laid. get out from behind your keyboard
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:00 PM
1

Study theory, then go and practice, then repeat. We all have to find our own styles and voices. I'd say the biggest things I missed were upgrading my wardrobe and haircut. While my biggest assets were learning early how to talk to people and engage them in passionate conversation
/r/seduction25/08/22 09:47 AM
1

Nope. gotta be verbal. takes a half second. takes zero effort. theres no excuse not to. if you dont have communication skills; get out of game. if you dont have courage to ask; get out of game. if you dont have respect for someones body; get out of game communication, confidence, respect; thats good game
/r/seduction25/08/22 07:13 AM
1

even when you know she wants it you still have to ask. sometimes even when they WANT to kiss you theyre not READY to kiss you. you dont get to make that decision for them. bodily autonomy bro
/r/seduction25/08/22 07:04 AM
2

choosing signals are BS. make the approach. thats the only way to know for sure. rejection is your friend, it helps you move on to someone who is actually interested
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:42 AM
2

My experience is that you def can warm people up to you with your personality, if you have game. Not all people, but a significant proportion.
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:41 AM
0

ask her out. thats the first step.
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:21 AM
1

if theyre the right questions then it wont feel like an interrogation. ask her what shes passionate about and she'll be happy to talk for hours
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:19 AM
1

statements should be used to put yourself over, questions should be used to build empathy. make sure your line of questioning evokes her passions. make sure your statements paint you in the best possible light.
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:18 AM
1

im a bigger person too, it is a bit of a handicap on your game. but it doesnt mean you cant succeed. just keep investing in yourself and working to improve. good game can overcome a bit of weight. but itll get easier as you get slimmer for sure.
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:18 AM
-8

always ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction25/08/22 04:38 AM
1

why would i want to? all my friends are women. im constantly surrounded by beautiful women. im living the life. just learn game my man. why quit when you can level up?
/r/seduction25/08/22 04:35 AM
1

yet another post from some keyboard warrior who cant be bothered to go and actually experience what hes talking about. youre wrong. but youll never know it till you try
/r/seduction25/08/22 04:34 AM
1

most of us have evolved beyond that point caveman, you should too
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:58 AM
-1

Trust me you dont want to end up going to trial. And if you ever do you absolutely want to be able to say that consent was asked for and given . Takes a half second to save yourself from potential litigation. And its good game, and good manners. Respect, communication, confidence; good game.
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:29 PM
-1

if you dont know how to ask in a seductive way then you have no game. if you are too chickenshit to ask you dont have the confidence for pickup
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:28 PM
-1

Yes you could have her charged. You cant agree to disagree on the law.
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:10 PM
-1

Nope you still need verbal consent. Before hugs, before hand holding, before kissing. It takes a split second to ask. Get into the habit. It costs you nothing and it's good game, good manners, and keeps you from catching sexual assault charges
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:47 PM
-14

That's sexual assault bro. If you dont have the confidence to ask you shouldn't be dating
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:45 PM
-3

Some people really hate to be touched at all. You cant tell by looking at them. So always ask for consent. And when its sexual in nature ; it's the law to ask for consent And it's good game. It shows confidence, respect, and communication
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:38 PM
-1

Touching someone without their consent is. Game is how you get consent. Game makes them wanna say yes
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:22 PM
1

I'm looking for friends or sex. Or (more) FWBs.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:14 PM
-4

That's sexual assault. If you ask the right way they're all into it.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:13 PM
6

I'm feminist as fuck man. Game isnt about manipulating anyone, or using anyone. It's about connection people. Making honest connections is key. But that means being honest with yourself first.
/r/seduction24/08/22 03:08 PM
3

lmfao all my friends are women son. but you need to go into a relationship knowing what you want out of it or youre just gonna flounder. geeks who espouse failing strategies suck. we're supposed to have a mod team to keep those shit posts off the page. but im not one of them. i have lots of success with women, as friends, and as lovers. game is a tool. you can use it for your own purposes. but advertising bad game because you have 'good' principles is pointless
/r/seduction24/08/22 02:31 PM
1

Hmmm somewhat. You can def do a lot to make more people want to be gamed by you. But ultimately you're always gonna need the numbers game too.
/r/seduction24/08/22 12:59 PM
1

meh. play the numbers game. set your standards accordingly.
/r/seduction24/08/22 12:16 PM
1

the bar for looks is so much lower tho. like if youre average then its all good in cold approach, as long as you have some game
/r/seduction24/08/22 12:01 PM
2

nah. you need to signal intent. make it clear youre a romantic interest from day one. that doesnt mean you need to escalate, or even ask her out. but at least set the tone. if you want to be her friend you can always de-escalate. but once you're a friend its very hard to escalate back to romance (FWB maybe, but not romance). now if you were looking for something serious or for actually just making friends; cool. but thats not the focus of game
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:43 AM
4

bingo. ive had only 1 date say 'no' to a kiss, and we got pretty hot n heavy on the second date the next week. didnt hit it tho as she turned out to be a little bit unhinged lol
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:40 AM
33

bro ive had same day lays at the bar. hooked up on first dates. waiting can be necessary, but always at least make the attempt to escalate (with consent)
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:39 AM
4

no way. on tinder people dont read your bio. its 100% looks based. cold approach? i can use my personality. its way easier to pick up.
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:37 AM
1

If you're relying on luck then yeah you're doing something wrong
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:24 AM
1

Its not my dude
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:22 AM
30

its all about the vibes. anytime you want to kiss her, and/or think she wants you to kiss her just ask. as long as youre asking for consent you cant go wrong. but i do always ask at the end of a date too. even if there seems to be no interest. ive been pleasantly surprised before from doing that. ultimately its usually worth the risk.
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:09 AM
2

Being forward doesnt lower my effectiveness. You dont need to play stupid games. You need to be charming, funny, and attractive. Being forward shows confidence. It shows an abundance mentality. And it keeps you from wasting time so you can move on if shes not down. I dont pussyfoot around. I go after what i want. And if I'm not appreciated; no big deal. I move on.
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:32 AM
1

No. Show intent plainly. Dont waste your time. Dont be looking for signals. Play the numbers game. Dont fuck around with someone who isnt down and never will be.
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:25 AM
2

Have you ever even done cold approach before ? And again; what exactly are you doing ?
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:16 AM
0

if you are looking for 'indicators' then you are not being direct enough. just straight up ask them out and let them say yes or no. WTF are you doing exactly that leaves you unclear of their feelings?
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:04 AM
-3

as long as you ask for consent its all good
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:08 AM
23

I am counting on them making dumb decisions. Otherwise I'd never get laid lmfao
/r/seduction23/08/22 11:01 AM
1

I think if they drink it's a bonus lol But yeah I'm not into drugs and smoking
/r/seduction22/08/22 02:24 PM
3

yeah but you do need high self esteem to have HEALTHY relationships. you can be insecure and get laid. sure. but you shouldnt be getting serious till you get your head screwed on straight
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:57 PM
1

like 6 hours i think.
/r/seduction22/08/22 02:54 AM
1

Sure. But make sure you at least understand the fundamentals
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:56 PM
1

I'm down for whatever but I'm mainly going after the punk/goth/alt girls
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:51 PM
1

34, been doing game since i was 22, off and on
/r/seduction21/08/22 05:29 PM
7

Bro that's my type tho
/r/seduction21/08/22 05:27 PM
1

never lose track of time. always attempt to escalate with consent even if its just handholding. keep trying to escalate from there. but honestly this is way too long for a first date youre just breaking so many rules here its like you dont know game at all
/r/seduction21/08/22 12:48 PM
2

they arent lmfao what are you talking about?
/r/seduction21/08/22 12:46 PM
1

Could do. I know many do. Just never been my style.
/r/seduction21/08/22 12:10 PM
7

peacocking isnt for everyone. its not needed. i like it. it works well for my personality. but sometimes simpler is better. always do what makes you feel most confident. i feel more confident when people have their eye on me thats all.
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:19 AM
1

it can be as easy as asking 'what are you passionate about?' aside from that, i always have my own anecdotes to tell and talk about to. things that make me seem exciting and adventurous. but ideally you should talk about her mainly.
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:14 AM
3

no def not lol but im just saying dont be afraid to be out there. i think with the other girl i asked her where she was from. she said Turkey. i told her 'thats a great place to be from, but not a great place to still be at' and she agreed. i told her about a Turkish coworker i once had. just try to flow into conversation, it doesnt have to be anything heavy. but make sure you get their contact info. personally i always arrange for the dates after the fact on text/insta/whatever . unless i can g…
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:13 AM
1

nope
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:09 AM
8

no matter what you wear its gonna get positive attention as long as you put some small effort into it, do your own style. maybe pick a 'style icon' to pattern yourself after my style is more punk rock. motorcycle boots w/ studs, red skinny jeans with black skulls all over them, a band tee, a leather vest, spiked bracelets, 8 rings on my fingers, pendants. something like that. im looking for the alt/goth/emo girls mainly. ive got red leather jackets, blue leather jackets, red boots, blue boots, s…
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:09 AM
4

yo my man the last opener i used was 'love your shirt hun, matches my underwear' lmfao she had a leopard print top, and for real dawg i had leopard print briefs on that night lmfao i got her number AND i got the number of the girl she was chillin with, turns out theyre not super tight so I think I have a good chance with both of them
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:02 AM
11

works for me. i always peacock. gets attention on me, get compliments flowing my way, makes me feel good about myself and confident, puts swagger in my step, shows i care about my appearance. last time i hit the bar i had someone approach me before i even got inside complimenting my outfit. all my girls were very impressed.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:55 AM
1

numbers dont lie logistics are never irrelevant
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:50 AM
3

for sure. develop good habits. then once you have success your fear will fade a bit. but even for me if i hesitate too much i start to get nervous lol even after so many good experiences. so just dive in.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:49 AM
1

same as in conversation, but its harder over text. use probing questions to find out what theyre passionate about and stick to those topics. personally im a big fan of video calling and phone calling if you cant meet up within a few days cause its so much better for building intimacy. ideally text is enough, but if youre worried theyre gonna get bored or its not going anywhere then push for a phone call. ive had dry texters that were really good on the phone. and once we had a phone call they we…
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:48 AM
16

dont hesitate. see the girl; approach the girl. no thinking. just do it.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:43 AM
1

i'd say just be persistent about scheduling a date. build intimacy for a bit. then ask for a date. if she says no then go back to building intimacy and try again. just make it very clear youre looking to meet up. switching to phone or video calling might be good too if shes very shy.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:40 AM
2

the quality of life there is very low, most people live paycheck to paycheck, a doctors visit can bankrupt you, the incarcerated and homeless populations are massive... seems like theres a lot of poverty and inequality to me, just going by the numbers. even your life expectancy is dropping, while your retirement age is rising lol
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:39 AM
0

Sometimes their only interest is to relieve temporary boredom or blow up their ego. All good Just dont let them play you for that
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:22 AM
1

I've had that happen too, but anecdotes dont disprove general trends.
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:45 AM
1

Wrong and wrong. We dont always know why we do things. They're feelings. Creating sexual, and safe, feelings is what game is all about
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:44 AM
2

'Chads' often have pretty good game, subconciously or consciously. Theyre not just pretty faces. I know lots of 'chads' who cant get laid despite looking amazing. I can game circles around them. But just using the term 'chad' reveals your misogyny. Normal people dont use incel terminology.
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:18 AM
2

I have yeah. But youre wrong that sex overrides safety. Good game involves making them feel safe.
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:17 AM
-2

Yep!
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:55 AM
-10

nah. def because of that
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:19 AM
1

those women would have lost interest no matter what. better to minimize the amount of your time they wasted
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:11 AM
9

Is it? I'm not American tho. If Americans know this then why do they still allow it? I always figured they were all brainwashed into thinking they were Mad Max or John Wayne lol
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:01 AM
-9

bingo
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:16 AM
83

there are no safety nets in america so everyone has to watch their backs more closely. the cops are corrupt, the cities arent walkable, everyone is broke, you dont even have free healthcare. youre entirely on your own. no one is gonna help you if bad shit happens. so of course people will be far more careful and cautious than somewhere that they are protected and supported by society as a whole.
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:16 AM
2

Yeah but too many of these geeks think you should work harder when really they just need to work a tiny bit smarter
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:19 PM
1

Yeah I should probably just make a post about it on the main page really.
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:54 PM
2

well i recently made a post about 'the ABCs of Game' which is supposed to be a jumping off point for guiding rookies. but usually the most overlooked part of game is using proper flow. following the proper steps to seduction. there are 4 main steps; make the approach, signal intent, build intimacy, and escalate with consent. once you have the 4 steps down you just play the numbers game. the other 2 aspects of the ABCs will help you make the numbers game more efficient. but the heart of game is t…
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:42 PM
2

Nope . Average at best . I consistently surprise my friends with the quality of my dates
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:11 PM
2

They're pretty banging my man
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:24 PM
1

If that were true I'd never get laid
/r/seduction20/08/22 12:50 PM
13

Guys will literally get plastic surgery rather than read the wiki
/r/seduction20/08/22 11:30 AM
2

sure. but again; it doesnt change the steps in your approach. make the approach, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent. thats game, and it works the same way regardless of gender. a small nerdy cis male, will have a different approach compared to a tall muscular cis male who is in the gym every free hour doing MMA. but their flow will be the same. and they might be more different from one another than they would be from someone of another gender (like an NB, or a tomboy )
/r/seduction20/08/22 10:23 AM
1

I'm masc presenting. I've never had issues approaching femmes, even outside of queer spaces. It's the same steps either way. Just tailored to your presentation and your environment. But that's true regardless of gender. Different men will have different presentations, some are tall, some are short, some have a very specific style, you always have to tailor your approach. Its not gendered thing.
/r/seduction20/08/22 09:57 AM
1

in game parlance escalation means physical escalation. in common english yeah escalation can mean a lot of things and yeah if you think you can pull it off then ask their favourite position. although personally i usually lead with a sexy/funny story of my own. humour can be a great bridge into sex talk.
/r/seduction20/08/22 06:17 AM
23

Could you be any more entitled?
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:59 AM
1

when youre escalating? if youre escalating then the time for conversation is, hopefully, over. but sex talk can def get her in the mood to make escalation easier. you just need to have good timing and good empathy
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:12 AM
1

that doesnt change the rules of the game
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:05 AM
1

the flow is the same, all the principles are the same. make the approach, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent. it doesnt change based on gender
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:05 AM
4

make it clear its a date next time. crystal clear. if she wants a chaperone thats cool. but make it clear theyre just a third wheel. communicate like an adult.
/r/seduction19/08/22 06:35 AM
4

game is not gendered. just do what youd do with anyone else.
/r/seduction19/08/22 06:33 AM
1

only use texting to set up dates.
/r/seduction19/08/22 03:58 AM
4

same way you approach a girl anywhere else
/r/seduction18/08/22 06:32 AM
2

nah
/r/seduction18/08/22 05:15 AM
1

on the front page of the sub man
/r/seduction18/08/22 04:05 AM
8

the most important thing is when. timing. make sure you have enough intimacy built up first. then start the sex talk
/r/seduction18/08/22 04:00 AM
-2

bro this is a pickup forum. we're all about taking things fast
/r/seduction18/08/22 03:59 AM
1

nope. approach all the cuties. all of them
/r/seduction18/08/22 03:58 AM
1

stop thinking and make the approach
/r/seduction18/08/22 03:56 AM
-3

i dont know if game is the best place to start for that. try r/dating
/r/seduction18/08/22 03:56 AM
1

I think sex talk has a place. But you need to make sure you've built up enough intimacy first.
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:36 AM
1

Nah
/r/seduction17/08/22 02:54 PM
2

i havent heard that one but i agree with the premise.
/r/seduction17/08/22 07:51 AM
1

im not afraid of competition. i know how to sell myself. there is no competition. im a very unique cat. have i sabotaged others before? yes lmfao but really its not needed. just me being petty and being a shit disturber. the key is to make sure you dont come across as looking like a dick.
/r/seduction17/08/22 06:04 AM
1

"Can I kiss you?" Its very easy. But how you ask is always more important than the specific words. Tone, body language and timing are all key
/r/seduction16/08/22 10:32 AM
1

If they're happy with 5s it's all good. Some of them 5s are freaks in the best ways.
/r/seduction16/08/22 08:44 AM
1

Close your eyes ? Lmfao You might need therapy then my dude
/r/seduction16/08/22 08:43 AM
1

I seriously doubt those videos do much for anyone if they don't cover the basics. Maybe placebo effect for confidence ? But good game is systematic. There are steps to follow. 1234
/r/seduction15/08/22 10:02 PM
0

Then the videos you were watching were shit
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:59 PM
1

Gotta consider your sources. If you're ending up friend zoned you're not signaling intent right. That's a core step. Pickup 101. And then once your flow is right you still need the numbers game
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:58 PM
0

That's why you gotta learn game my dude.
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:57 PM
2

My experience says different
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:51 PM
0

Bro gender nonconforming people fuck more and fuck better than anyone else
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:50 PM
1

that 'movement' is a front for misogynists. its been exploded.
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:08 PM
1

bro go write a paper if you wanna refute the evidence in the field. no one here is listening to you over decades of well documented and peer reviewed research which you havent bothered to read and probably couldnt understand anyways
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:54 PM
119

dont give yourself time to get psyched out. as soon as you see a cute girl; make the approach. as soon as you wanna call someone; call them. trust your mouth to say the right things.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:51 PM
1

again see; feminist studies. an entire field of social studies which disagrees with you
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:41 PM
2

only escalate in private man. PDA is not polite for society. and if you cant go 'all the way' i dont see a huge point in escalating in the first place anyways.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:35 PM
-2

your anecdotal ramblings do not in any way negate an ENTIRE FIELD OF SOCIAL STUDIES. get your head out of your butt
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:33 PM
4

ask her out. if you have rapport you should have done this by now. do it now.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:32 PM
1

ABCs. ability. body. charisma. you dont need goals and hobbies. you need the ability to make a connection. you need to know how and when to do that. you need to have at least put some effort into your appearance. thats it. honestly man have you even read thru the wiki?
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:29 PM
3

ABCs. Ability. Body. Charisma. If you have the body then you need to look at your ability and charisma. do you really understand game? are your social skills on point?
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:26 PM
-1

ask for consent. communicate like an adult.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:25 PM
-10

who cares whats normal? you wanna be a sheep. you prolly think you need to be masculine to get ladies too. stop trying to conform to societal expectations and gender roles. do what makes you happy.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:25 PM
-2

well.... youre wrong lmfao see; feminist studies.
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:23 PM
0

Cool. Good contribution bro
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:12 PM
0

Sexism isnt a force used to oppress men tho. This "theory " strips women of their agency in a specifically patriarchical way. It's also toxic to men. By forcing them to confirm to "alpha mentality " that's an injustice to a man's individuality. But men aren't oppressed by patriarchy the same way women are. We all suffer. But women suffer more. By design
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:40 PM
2

Yeah. Treating women like they're animals guided by some "animal instinct "
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:27 PM
2

yep. im big and tall, some people love that. other people like smaller, thinner partners. all good. one of the people i have the strongest feelings for rejected me because they like smaller, thinner people. that shit just happens sometimes. oh well. everyone has preferences. gotta get over it and move on. and its not a gendered thing. shes a cis women, im masc presenting, but it really doesnt matter.
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:20 PM
328

women are people. just talk to them like anyone else bro
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:17 PM
2

i legit have asked the waitress which girls she likes best lmfao i once took two dates to the same restaurant on the same day back-to-back and got the same waitress both times lmfao
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:54 PM
1

All kinds of women like all kinds of men there is no typology of compatibility. Be yourself. Find people who appreciate who you really are. That's all that matters. And that's not restricted to any gender or sexual orientation either. Game is about finding compatibility quickly. And it knows no gender.
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:24 PM
6

there's no such thing as a 'beta male' thats just misogynistic bullshit based on really bad science
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:14 PM
1

yes it is, but then you still have to ask for consent
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:09 AM
1

If you cant turn her on verbally you have no game.
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:08 PM
1

Consent must always be verbal
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:07 PM
-1

Look up consent in the legal code
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:57 PM
1

They should. It's the law. And it's good game.
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:44 PM
-3

Doesnt matter if you liked it, it's still assault if you dont give your consent prior. Consent cannot be retroactive
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:43 PM
-5

if she didnt ask for consent then yes. you were assaulted my dude.
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:38 PM
-4

bro thats sexual assault. you always need to ask.
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:34 PM
-8

im nonbinary, but you have to ask for consent regardless of gender
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:25 PM
6

just go back to building intimacy and try again later. there's no rush. some girls just need time to warm up
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:12 PM
1

'most guys' are pretty clueless. consent is good game and its the law too. it shows respect, communication, and confidence.
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:12 PM
-5

ask for consent next time
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:10 PM
1

consent is 'can i kiss you?' 'can i take off your panties?' 'can i eat your pussy?' 'do you want my cock?' 'how bad do you want it?' okay maybe not that last one lol but at the very least ask consent before you kiss them. from there on asking for consent can be a good idea, and can be fun, but might not be strictly needed depending on the situation. when in doubt tho; always ask
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:05 PM
1

I've done it both ways, but you make some good points
/r/seduction13/08/22 04:02 AM
-1

I just made a post about this yesterday my man
/r/seduction13/08/22 03:26 AM
1

but i mean... ive also had some pretty casual FWB situations lol
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:41 PM
-1

i dont think having a deep emotional connection with a friend is a bad thing, or that it has to ruin your other relationships. i do care about some of my FWBs deeply. but at the end of the day we know our lives arent compatible right now to date, and probably never will be. that doesnt mean we cant still be friends, and it doesnt mean we cant fool around
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:32 PM
1

I have several going on right now, no issues so far. Why do you say that?
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:56 AM
3

No bro youre living in a fantasy world and demonizing women. None of that shit is true. Go and have an actual conversation with a woman man, get out of your basement
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:17 AM
3

"In spite of being feminists " is taking a shot right there
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:59 AM
-1

Calibration is exactly part of knowing when to ask. But you always have to ask. It's good game and it's the law.
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:58 AM
3

When you start blaming feminism for your issues you're being a misogynist
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:56 AM
1

man every approach is a confrontation to some degree, youve gotta get over that shit. if youre afraid of a fight go take some boxing lessons to help you gain that confidence.
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:53 AM
-1

'take the leap' and sexually assault someone? thats not an act of bravery man, its a violation of trust, a show of disrespect. And again; it shows you dont have the balls to communicate. Real players arent afraid of rejection, they know theyre not gonna be rejected. They can take their time to be gentlemen
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:50 AM
3

when you come in here with sexist bullshit I already take it personally. You're spewing garbage, and that's what you're gonna get back. A real player loves women, seduction is a chance for everyone to share a good time together. Sexists like you just want to use women and see them as objects, not people. So no, I have no time for playing nice with you
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:49 AM
-4

I always ask for consent and they always say yes. If you're too afraid of rejection to ask then you have no balls man. Consent shows confidence. It shows respect. And it shows communication. Plus if they do say "no" they wont be mad the same way they will be if you just straight up have touched them without permission
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:32 AM
7

this isnt true, and it has nothing to do with feminism. just another disjointed, nonsencsical, misogynistic rant. maybe if you treated women like people you would actually get some play dude
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:27 AM
5

game isnt 'tips' game is a process for success. its easier for some, harder for others, but it can work for anyone if you know it and follow it.
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:26 AM
-7

Found the sexual predator
/r/seduction12/08/22 08:59 AM
1

Nothing but white girls unfortunately. I had one Asian. But for the most part; white on white. It's like a mayonnaise storm.
/r/seduction12/08/22 07:01 AM
0

dont touch anyone without their consent. thats sexual assault.
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:11 AM
4

dont 'go for a kiss', ask for consent. if you kiss her when shes not down shes gonna be severely turned off. if she says 'no' its easy to recover from. asking for consent shows confidence, respect, and shows you have communication skills. its good game
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:10 AM
1

hotel dates can be great but i wouldnt drive 2 hours unless it was a sure thing anyways. time is valuable.
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:07 AM
4

every relationship and date and hookup and person is different. but the framework of game is pretty flexible and can apply to almost any situation. study the game. then execute. then review what you did wrong and try again some hookups take zero work. some take a lot of work.
/r/seduction12/08/22 04:06 AM
3

Yes. Always escalate with consent 💪
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:21 AM
20

Avoiding your real problem isnt gonna work homie. You need to attack your shyness. It's always gonna hold you back otherwise
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:50 AM
0

Ask for consent
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:47 AM
4

Yeah that's why we need the mods to enforce the rules and delete bad advice. But as it stands like 50% of the advice here is trash Real players know bad advice when they see it
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:46 AM
7

You cant escalate over text
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:44 AM
0

Ask for consent
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:44 AM
35

Get over your shyness. Start making approaches. No one owes you a date, you need to put in the work.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:43 AM
2

Go read the rules of the sub. No beginner posts. Then read the wiki if you're still interested
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:00 PM
-3

Nah
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:54 AM
-6

thats not pickup man. you can use aspects of pickup to do that; but its not pickup
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:39 AM
-5

you can use aspects of game in seducing your friends, but you need to modify your approach in several key ways or youre gonna lose all your friends and ruin your reputation. real game is about cold approach.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:27 AM
-13

dont approach women in your social circle. thats not game. game is cold approach. not warm approach.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:22 AM
2

its easier to focus on what you should be rather than focus on what you should not be. what you should be is someone who knows game. someone who makes approaches. someone who signals intent. someone who builds intimacy. someone who escalates with consent. your personality doesnt matter. if youre playing the game you can be successful with any personality. game is about finding compatibility. its about finding people who appreciate your personality. and making sure you can actually escalate inste…
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:20 AM
5

your taint isnt your ass. and what does this have to do with game?
/r/seduction11/08/22 09:02 AM
3

your personality should be genuine. stop trying to sculpt yourself into some tool. dont be a tool. be yourself. have the confidence to let go of your insecurities and embrace who you are. confidence is sexy. thinking you need to change to be successful is pathetic
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:21 AM
1

arousal does not guarantee consent
/r/seduction11/08/22 05:35 AM
1

just ask for consent. if she says 'no' then go back to building intimacy and try again later. i've often been shocked with a 'yes' when i was sure i'd be shot down. communication is always better than inference.
/r/seduction11/08/22 05:35 AM
0

Nonbinary
/r/seduction11/08/22 04:47 AM
0

33NB and its been 5 excruciating days lmfao
/r/seduction11/08/22 04:44 AM
6

come on man this is basic shit. read the wiki. 'signal intent'.
/r/seduction11/08/22 04:17 AM
2

Always solo
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:22 PM
3

Just say thank you and start a conversation. What kind of approaches are you making where you dont know how to deal with this ? The whole goal of an approach is to begin a conversation
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:26 AM
1

Yeah the wiki has links to the best previous posts mainly
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:57 PM
1

the r/seduction wiki on the main page
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:28 PM
11

i mean for real im always open to sleeping with my friends, i always try to keep the door open. they know im down, they know im good in bed, they know i treat my partners with respect. im always flirting and we're all pretty open about sex talk and things like that
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:59 PM
23

invest in your game my man. read the wiki. play the numbers game the questions youre asking are very basic questions i will say that for escalating with friends ; treat it like any other seduction. build up the intimacy, turn them on, make it an emotional decision not a logical one.
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:22 PM
72

im turning 34 this week. have several FWBs. havent had any issues finding them. some i met as dates and we decided to stay casual, some were just friends until we started hooking up. both routes can work well
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:50 PM
9

real players have respect and admiration for their partners. they want to share fun and joy. that means being genuine and honest. manipulation (key word) cant be part of that. its disrespectful and dehumanizing to your partner. i wanna make love to someone because i like who they are, their personality excites me, and i wanna remove barriers between us. even if it is just casual. if you dont give a shit about someone; leave them TF alone
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:09 PM
8

nope. you be yourself. you find who gels with you. you dont play games and waste everyones time. those are fundamentals. game isnt about being fake, its about finding who you are compatible with as quickly as possible. its about efficiency not manipulation
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:55 PM
16

a seduction isnt logical, like a checklist, its emotional. theres def an order of operations to a successful seduction. but your specific qualities dont matter so much as long as you understand what order to do things in, and when to do them. thats why game works. its not a checklist, its a process.
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:45 PM
10

push/pull is a waste of time. if you dont have fundamentals it doesnt work. if you do have fundamentals you dont need it. its just a dumb gimmick. invest in your fundamentals and stop playing games
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:44 PM
0

Maybe. But it's against the group rules to post that stuff. It dilutes the whole purpose of the sub
/r/seduction09/08/22 02:05 AM
0

It wont help either tho. As long as you have some style and put effort into your appearance the specific style doesn't really matter much.
/r/seduction09/08/22 02:04 AM
1

dont know what to do? read the wiki. all the info is right there. read it, then go out and practise. analyze your mistakes, improve, then go practice more. its a numbers game. oneitis is never gonna work out in any dating strategy.
/r/seduction09/08/22 01:00 AM
6

you need to get your shit together about what you actually want and what your priorities are. but thats not part of game. game is just about the seduction. maybe try r/dating
/r/seduction09/08/22 12:39 AM
14

i mean its not ideal, but its never gotten me into trouble before
/r/seduction09/08/22 12:02 AM
2

read the wiki
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:54 PM
2

exactly
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:33 PM
2

i feel for them too. trying to be someone else is a waste of who they are. the funny thing is when im at the bar the dude-bros all love me. they can see my confidence and they respect it. its just the keyboard warriors who get pissy lmfao these guys need to get out into the real world and see that all kinds of people are getting laid. not just dude-bros and fuccbois (and no offense to the legit dude-bros and fuccbois either, its just the wannabees who are a waste )
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:16 PM
2

being forward is not a bad thing. be forward! just also be polite and respectful. my very first message i ask them out on a date. 'i really dig your vibe can i take you out sometime?' just something that easy. i want them to know i want to meet up right away. they usually say 'sure. lets just talk for a bit first'. but its important to set the expectation of a date early. dont let them waste your time.
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:14 PM
8

fun. i want them to think im the life of the party, im on a nonstop adventure. i want them to want to join in that adventure. but then again i like adventurous women lol if youre going for someone more 'prudish ' you'll have different priorities
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:11 PM
1

lmfao evolution is about flexibility, changing with the times. misogyny is out of style man, its a bad look. evolve and realize that women are human beings. and we're all more than our 'biology' (not that you likely know much about biology either)
/r/seduction08/08/22 10:23 PM
-1

lmfao there is some heavy sexism in this post. and newsflash; pickup isnt just for men. get your head out of your booty.
/r/seduction08/08/22 10:14 PM
1

fragile masculinity on display here lmfao
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:43 PM
1

yeah this sub has a serious misogyny problem . both the regular dude-bros and the incel lunatics. they just spew bad advice and wallow in their misery blaming women for all their problems instead of doing any inner game and working on their skills and approaches. its sad and counterproductive
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:39 PM
2

😂😂😂😂 what a nerd
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:36 PM
2

Yeah women who will want to be with you dont exist lmfao Because you're too afraid to be a real person. You've gotta be a clone. So you have become no one
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:36 PM
-6

Your definition of success is highly suspect to me. I'm openly bonbinary and have tons of success with women. My game is strong. And its gender neutral. And i dont have to be fake to have that success. It's on my terms.
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:35 PM
2

How about the women who genuinely care for you instead of your fake persona. You want to live your life with no intimacy? Are you really so insecure and scared of rejection that you cant deviate from your dads idea of a "real man "?
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:33 PM
2

Nice gender bro, did your mom pick it out for you ?
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:31 PM
-5

Wrong. Young guys struggle because patriarchy is trying to slam them into a little box and mutilate their souls to conform The antidote is free expression. And women aren't a monolith either. They all have their own preferences and their own personalities. Not everyone is a sheep like you
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:31 PM
3

Lmfao even your comebacks cant be original. Just keep conforming sheep. Dont step out of line. Let your gender determine your whole personality. Good sheep.
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:29 PM
3

You gonna date "the majority "? You have time for that ? You're okay with sacrificing your uniqueness for that ? That doesn't seem insecure to you ?
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:28 PM
2

A "shitty thing " vs a "cool thing " is very much in the eye of the beholder.
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:25 PM
0

bingo
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:14 PM
17

he cant explain it cause he's full of shit lol conformity isnt sexy. being so insecure that you think you need to conform to traditional gender roles ahead of your real personality and unique style isnt sexy. having the confidence to truly not give a shit is sexy
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:49 PM
2

always ask for consent before you touch someone or escalate your touching. then you cant go wrong. its all about asking in the right way and at the right time
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:47 PM
3

Well said. And not just odd but disengenuine. Trying to be someone else is a waste of who you are. Trying to conform to your perception of an external gender role falls under that category. Be yourself and you have zero competition. Try and be like every other guy and you've just given yourself massive competition. And you've betrayed your unique personality. Patriarchy tries to force men to conform. It stifles their individuality. Really confident men aren't afraid to be nonconformists. And tha…
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:25 PM
2

AMAB
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:16 AM
1

Signaling intent means making sure she views you as a romantic/sexual partner rather than a friend. It's the step that avoids any possibility of the "friend zone " . Dont act like her friend. That's all it means
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:33 AM
5

In what way ? I present as masculine, my personality is more femme, but I also do martial arts and work security in leadership and training roles. None of that matters for game tho presentation literally doesn't matter Approach, signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent. It's easy. And its not gendered
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:18 AM
-3

I'm nonbinary
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:14 AM
-3

not even close to true. im nonbinary, i have no problem getting women, heck even women have no problems getting women. game knows no gender.
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:10 AM
22

TF is blackpill? Get out of the internet bubble man, rejoin the real world
/r/seduction06/08/22 09:04 AM
2

can you define 'excitement' and why you think its needed? i mean i know why exciting dates are important but in the context of 'building excitement' i dont get it. just do something exciting with her yeah?
/r/seduction06/08/22 07:19 AM
1

Pretty much anyone but a cishetero man is gonna make women feel comfy yeah. cause cishetero men are usually the ones looking to use and abuse them. I'm not cishetero and i can def confirm that as soon as i make that clear women do really relax, even tho im masc-presenting. and then yeah game becomes much easier.
/r/seduction06/08/22 07:09 AM
0

Who on this pickup sub is advocating for that ?
/r/seduction03/08/22 10:30 PM
0

The one I'm sleeping with is unfortunately the least interested in me lol shes just the thirstiest But I cant argue with your logic
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:57 PM
1

Maybe. But again ; I'm not disagreeing with your point. I'm just adding an addendum for the rookies out there
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:42 PM
2

Jumping into sex talk cold is creepy and thirsty. Make sure you have rapport first. Then yes jump into sex talk
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:35 PM
0

Jumping into sex talk cold is creepy and thirsty. Make sure you have rapport first. Then yes jump into sex talk
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:35 PM
6

Those are good tips if you already have intimacy, attraction, and trust built. But rushing into sex talk can be bad without those things
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:28 PM
3

Read the wiki man Signal intent, build attraction, build intimacy, build trust. Then escalate with consent.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:27 PM
2

i'd say those all sound pretty much fair game. maybe not while she's in line. but all those other situations she has an 'exit strategy' and no onus to be nice to you. she can leave, she can tell you to leave. so its all good
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:55 PM
1

The one for this sub
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:42 PM
2

as long you're polite, and they're not a captive audience (at work, on transit, at the gym) then i dont see many times when you should not shoot your shot. unless you can give some examples i might not be thinking of?
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:54 AM
3

I get lots of bitches. Then i do a 360 and keep getting lots of bitches. Because a 360 means nothing has changed. I spin right around. The bitches remain.
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:12 AM
8

he's already dead in the water what do you mean 'slow down'? he needs to SPEED UP ! as long as hes asking for consent its all good. but always make the attempt to escalate
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:03 AM
1

the figure of speech is 'did a complete 180' not 360.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:58 AM
2

the only way to find out is to make the approach. IOIs dont mean shit. shoot your shot.
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:14 AM
7

the wiki is a great tool to give yourself a refresher my man
/r/seduction03/08/22 06:13 AM
1

yes exactly. its easy for her to say 'no' when her brain is in charge. but turn her on and then you'll likely get a different answer. dont let her engage with her brain. engage with her feelings. dont take the brain seriously because you have the tools to turn the brain off. if you have game
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:54 AM
90

how did you end up cuddling in the bed with no sex? you skipped a step man work on your verbal game. seduce her with your words. work on your sensual game; backrubs and foot massages are your friend. work on your sex talk; get her in the mood. make sure youre building intimacy. and make sure youre asking for consent before you touch her so she feels respected, and knows you have communication skills and confidence. this sounds like a huge lack of fundamentals dude. these are really basic things.…
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:45 AM
1

just agree with her. tell her you also want to wait. that'll make her more comfy. and more likely to want to sleep with you. but dont let it stop you from escalating with consent when the time is right. same as any other seduction. words are wind. action and attraction are what matters. as long as youre asking for consent it'll all be fine. she can always say 'no'
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:26 AM
5

just treat her like any other girl. youre overthinking this.
/r/seduction03/08/22 04:59 AM
16

no matter what you do someone will think you are a creep, and someone else will think youre a stud i always do basically the same approach. and sometimes i get a very strong, and rude, negative reaction. but sometimes the exact same approach has a very strong positive reaction. and most of the time its somewhere in the middle. thats just life. pickup is about finding your audience. but you cant do that without disqualifying those who are not into you. thats part of the game. just learn to ignore…
/r/seduction03/08/22 04:11 AM
-6

lmfao the majority of women dont want to be sexually assaulted. are you high?
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:22 PM
0

thats why we have such strict posting rules to make sure geeks dont post. the rules used to be followed. and this place was a gold mine. now anyone posts anything and r/askseddit is dead
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:12 PM
1

been doing pickup since way before this sub. but its good to have somewhere to brush up on the basics every once in a while. every once in a while there is some good original advice too
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:11 PM
-5

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:06 PM
5

a 360 takes you right back to where you started...
/r/seduction02/08/22 11:05 PM
14

the 'average man' is pretty pathetic bro. if youre average or below youre putting in no effort. get a haircut, wear some cologne, dress well, shower and shave regularly, and then youre already ahead of most guys. if you can hit the gym, work on your diet, find a car, a nice apartment, then youre pulling way ahead of average. but the number one thing most guys are lacking is charm. charisma. just get an ounce of that and youre made. do not worry about the average man. or being the average man. wo…
/r/seduction02/08/22 04:17 AM
1

I always ask for consent. I always make the attempt to escalate. Sometimes it works even when I think it wont. I find communication isnt creepy. Lack of communication is creepy. Upgrade your communication skills But also realize some people will think you are creepy no matter what you do. So just do the right thing.
/r/seduction02/08/22 03:37 AM
0

If you're asking for consent it won't be pushy. You just have to ask the right way.
/r/seduction02/08/22 03:33 AM
1

being hit on in a situation where you cant be honest is not a compliment. causing someone stress at work is not a compliment. game is all about communication and consent. and approaches at work wont be able to have either.
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:18 PM
3

they have to be nice to you at work, and they cant leave. thats a totally unfair situation. its a dishonest situation. youre always gonna get a fake response. and cause them a lot of stress at their place of business. imagine if a gay guy were hitting on you at work, working in a public space.
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:09 PM
0

hells yes approach at the beach. do not approach at the gym, at work, or on the bus. those are captive audiences. very skeezy but the beach is a public space. everyone is in a good mood, looking fine. its a great place to pick up
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:50 PM
0

most women are lusted after constantly. if thats all youre bringing to the table how are you gonna stand out? my experience is women dont want to be desired. they want to be turned on. they want to be noticed, respected and appreciated. not for how they look but for who they are.
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:48 PM
9

dont ask/dont tell. let her bring it up. if she doesnt bring it up; great. then shes cool with it being casual. if she brings it up; be honest and respectful with her. no bullshit
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:46 PM
4

thats why you need to always try! its the only way to know for sure. and as long as youre asking for consent its very easy to recover from the rejection (if she does reject you )
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:44 PM
0

always attempt to escalate with consent. as long as youre asking for consent its all good. but always make the attempt
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:44 PM
6

dont approach people at work
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:42 PM
2

Its all about the probing questions. Find what turns her on specifically. Or at least what shes excited about
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:59 PM
2

Find out what shes passionate about and stick to those topics. It can be as easy as asking "what are you passionate about? What makes you happy ?" Engage with her on an emotional level. Get her to turn her brain off. Stimulate her pleasure centers. Seduction is all emotion, it's not a logical thing.
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:43 PM
2

Humour is tough to master. I found the easiest thing was to tell funny anecdotes. Stories that make you seem cool and interesting. They're good cause they take some time to tell and that can build intimacy.
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:38 PM
2

It depends on the context. I've never had issues with it in a sexual context. But I'm a very open person when it comes to sex.
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:29 PM
14

Humour and icebreakers And then probing questions and passionate conversation
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:25 PM
0

The wiki
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:18 PM
1

calibration is key yeah. same dialogue can work great, or not at all, depending on the timing and mood. i dont have canned phrases. i prefer anecdotes. just talking about past experiences. just think of the sexiest things youve done and describe them to her. or some of the most risque things youve done. or most adventurous things. and pay attention to see what turns her on. ask her about her hottest moments too. get her thinking about and reliving them.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:46 PM
3

if youre having trouble building intimacy over text, and she wont meet, then do a phone or video call.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:35 PM
1

my 2 'go tos' are sex talk and emotional intimacy. sex talk can be used on anyone. emotional intimacy is better for when you know them a bit better sex talk; talk to her about sex. about what turns her on. about her past experiences, about your past experiences. talk yourself up. pay attention to what she likes. talk about freaky shit. make her curious. emotional intimacy; tell her you care about her, you want to make her feel good, you appreciate her. give specific examples. show that youre pay…
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:30 PM
1

ask for consent before you escalate. if you dont know how to do that in a sexy way then work on your verbal skills. verbal seduction is so important to all aspects of game, but especially to escalation and asking for consent. turn her on with your words so that shes begging for it when you ask her.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:23 PM
62

youre actually not even being harsh enough to them pickup is about love. its about loving your partner. sharing joy. making it easy to do that. removing barriers between you. incels hate women. they dont have any love or respect for them in their hearts. they want to harm and dominate. they are purely selfish in relationships. they hide behind barriers and fake personas. because their true selves are disgusting. theres no place in game for incels or misogynists.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:13 AM
4

in all my years of gaming ive only ever had one 'same day lay' . always go for it. but dont let it get to you if it doesnt happen. remember; girls have to be very careful not to be assaulted. they dont trust someone theyve just met. a lot of MFers out here dont understand consent and they make everyone more skittish sadly.
/r/seduction31/07/22 05:41 AM
2

Yeah I have good luck once I get the number. Getting the number is usually the hard part. But again i dont track strictly so maybe it just feels like I have good luck because I'm forgetting all the ghosts. Maybe my ratio is higher.
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:11 AM
1

I dont track those numbers strictly. But I'd guess 1 in 6. Hard to say without tracking tho.
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:59 AM
3

Reddit being glitchy
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:54 AM
2

A number per 10 approaches
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:53 AM
1

A number per 10 approaches.
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:42 AM
34

That a bad ratio even for a rookie. You're def doing something wrong. Go back to your fundamentals and evaluate. Review your approach. Try something new.
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:30 AM
1

consent isnt something that requires 'best judgment'. you either have consent or your dont. thats the entire point
/r/seduction30/07/22 04:29 AM
1

Nope! Consent must be explicit.
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:55 AM
1

use probing questions to find what she's passionate about and stick with those subjects
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:55 AM
-2

So why post here ?
/r/seduction29/07/22 10:10 AM
1

thats true. but actually improving your approach can really help too. numbers are most important, but technique shouldnt be forgotten
/r/seduction29/07/22 09:59 AM
1

sounds like your game is just weak. go back and work on your fundamentals. re-read the wiki. learn how to build intimacy, learn to signal intent, learn to escalate with consent. you're doing something wrong
/r/seduction29/07/22 09:58 AM
-2

why are you doing pickup then?
/r/seduction29/07/22 09:13 AM
-1

im sure this will get removed for being a beginner question. but whoever told you that 'making statements' is a good idea has lost the plot. build a passionate conversation by using probing questions to find her passions. dont interview her. dont seek facts. seek feelings. get her talking about what she loves, what excites her. stimulate her emotionally. control her mood. get your hooks into her. dont fucking throw out blank statements. what is that supposed to accomplish? making her correct you…
/r/seduction29/07/22 09:12 AM
-12

dont touch anyone without their consent. your entire issue is solved when you ask for consent. you instantly know what she wants. communicate like an adult.
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:55 AM
18

The ABC's Ability ; know the game Body; look your best Charisma ; talk the talk. Seduce them with your words. Always ask for consent
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:33 PM
2

deny till you die. if she knew for sure, and actually cared, she wouldnt still be talking to you. the fact that shes still talking to you means she is still interested. tell her what she wants to hear. dont let her crack your frame
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:30 AM
1

do not use 'filler' . do not make 'small talk'. you have a limited window to make an impression make a strong impression. maximize your time. engage in passionate conversation.
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:29 AM
1

personally i go heavy on the emotional intimacy. unless you find you're able to have some sex talk and turn her on that way, i've had luck there too. but generally i like the intimacy. that's me tho, that's my groove. you gotta have your own style and personality.
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:17 AM
3

nope
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:12 AM
5

so did that teach you a lesson in consent?
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:08 AM
1

if 'youre sweet' is the best thing they can say about you it means youre deadass boring. be better than sweet.
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:07 AM
1

always ask for consent before you touch anyone. or youre gonna end up in jail getting ducked up the ass yourself with the other predators
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:05 AM
4

escalate like you would with anyone else. be sensual and seductive. dont make it some dry-ass convo.
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:04 AM
-1

Yes exactly. Dont talk to someone who doesnt want you around. dont touch someone who doesnt want to talk to you. if they look uncomfortable confirm they want you to stay. basic courtesy and communication. remember; rejection is a time saver. its a numbers game, and approaches take time. so dont waste time imposing yourself on people who are deadass not interested
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:03 AM
2

"signs" and "choosing signals" are always bullshit. dont listen to them the only 'sign' that matters is how does she react when you escalate? and the only factor that goes into 'do i escalate?' is 'do you want to escalate?' if you want it; go for it. she can always say 'no'. no harm done. if you dont want it; then dont sweat it, doesnt matter.
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:49 AM
1

Nope. if you ask the right way it makes them want to say 'yes' . upgrade your verbal game. dont grope at them like an animal, seduce them without touching them.
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:41 AM
1

if you cant manage basic conversation you shouldnt be dating. 'can i give you a hug?' . thats literally it. if you cant manage that youve lost the plot
/r/seduction28/07/22 06:18 AM
1

just be yourself bro. the truth always comes out eventually so just cut the BS and be honest about who you are. if they reject you because they dont like who you are then its better to get that over with now, not waste time. the faster you can get rid of the people who dont like you the better. because then you can move on to those who do like you
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:56 AM
-5

as always; ask for consent before you touch anyone. they will tell you what theyre okay with
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:26 AM
1

Dont. That's skeezy
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:24 PM
2

Because your ego is so weak that any insult triggers you Confident people dont give a shit what others think Only insecure people get this upset over someone else's opinions And if its making you lose control it's a serious problem.
/r/seduction27/07/22 07:33 PM
3

Seek people who like you, that you also like. And do it in the fastest and most efficient manner. Numbers game is absolutely vital. And so is honest, clear communication. Be very up front about your goals and preferences so no one gets their time wasted.
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:06 PM
1

Sexual assault is not rape. Just like assault is not murder. But they're all bad. And you should be ashamed of advocating for any of them
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:03 PM
2

you need therapy bro. this is not a game issue.
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:33 AM
1

thats sexual assault bro. ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:32 AM
-1

ask for consent. sexual assault is not the way to escalate
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:31 AM
1

got a lot of FWBs but that really doesnt have a huge overlap with game. the same fundamentals apply but the process is totally backwards. is there attraction? is there trust? can you turn her on? if yes to all then escalate with consent. same principles as game, but how you get there is the actual 'game' so it really doesnt apply here
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:28 AM
1

laugh at her and move on with your life. if you let her make you mad; shes won. dont give her the control. be secure in your confidence.
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:25 AM
1

i usually call it the ABCs Ability; understanding the game Body; being visually appealing. includes fashion and hygiene Charisma; talking the talk. charming her. seducing her with your words. dirty talk. asking for consent
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:22 AM
1

deny till you die
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:19 AM
1

if youre actually confident then you wont be inexperienced for long. just make sure you ask for consent and it'll all be good.
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:16 AM
1

have a style. have a style icon. wear what makes you feel confident. wear something that shows you put effort into your appearance. effort is sexy. for me that means a leather jacket, skinny jeans, motorcycle boots, lots of rings, pendants, and bracelets. im going for the goth/alt/punk style. it sets me apart, it shows off my personality, it sends a message about who i am, it shows effort. some will hate the style, but others will love it. and those who love it will likely be the types of people…
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:15 AM
45

she'll fuck you if she wants to fuck you. she'll fuck you if you turn her on. she'll fuck you if she trusts you. different people find different things attractive. different people get turned on by different things. no one wants to share their body and be vulnerable with someone they dont trust and have confidence in. game is about finding compatibility. finding people who find YOU attractive. finding people who are turned on by the same things as you. Finding people you have enough rapport with…
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:46 AM
-3

What does this have to do with game ?
/r/seduction27/07/22 06:11 AM
1

I have lots of experience that backs me up. Consent is good game AND it's the right thing to do.
/r/seduction20/06/22 11:56 AM
1

If you say it right then yeah it enhances everything. If you cant turn them on verbally you have no business touching them in the first place.
/r/seduction19/06/22 11:21 AM
1

Yes it is. The only sign you can touch someone is verbal consent. The law specifically says passivity does not grant consent
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:07 AM
2

I've just had too many bad experiences with people who text a lot and then ghost or never actually show up for a date. I dont invest my time till I know they're gonna show up But if you love texting and have the time it's not the absolute worst thing.
/r/seduction16/06/22 10:54 AM
7

this is a pickup sub, easy is what we're looking for
/r/seduction16/06/22 10:26 AM
7

texting is just to set up dates. keep it minimal. dont use text to build attraction. if you need to build attraction but cant meet up then do a phone or video call. but always prioritize in-person. you cant escalate any other way
/r/seduction16/06/22 10:22 AM
3

never ever ever wait for IOIs. they dont matter. the only thing that matters is how they react to your approach. the way to find their interest? make the approach. thats the only way you'll know for sure. make the approach
/r/seduction16/06/22 04:57 AM
2

every woman is different. just be yourself, and play the numbers game to find the right woman for you. the one who will appreciate you as you truly are
/r/seduction16/06/22 04:56 AM
1

just be yourself. you're overthinking this. some guys are naturally more high energy, some are more aloof. it's all good as long as you're being yourself. there is a woman out there for every guy. i'm more high energy, some girls see it as clingy, and some girls love it. just gotta play the numbers game to find the right ones and ditch the wrong ones. as far as sexual escalation goes; always attempt to escalate with consent. a rejection is no big deal as long as you've asked for consent. but you…
/r/seduction16/06/22 04:54 AM
1

well I'm ace and i have a lot 'to do with it' . and i'm sure game can help a lot of other queer people too. it's a great way to build social skills. as someone who doesnt experience attraction in fact i think game has been EXCEPTIONALLY helpful in helping me to date and relate to allos. i don't really have any 'instincts' to go on, so studying game has helped me get dates, have relationships, and get laid. for me the biggest lesson has been consistently; escalate. always attempt to escalate. all…
/r/seduction16/06/22 03:36 AM
1

sexual assault doesnt build attraction
/r/seduction16/06/22 03:31 AM
2

trust isnt needed for game. maybe you meant to post in r/relationships?
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:23 PM
1

you need therapy my dude . validation shouldnt come from outside sources and a pickup artist sub isnt exactly the best place to be seeking therapeutic self esteem advice lmfao upgrading your game and having success with women will help, but ultimately its still only external validation. and thats not healthy
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:22 PM
2

A true king. Everything else in your post I agree with 100%
/r/seduction15/06/22 11:05 AM
1

Bro I'm non binary and asexual and I've been doing game on and off since like 2006. You're full of it
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:53 AM
1

Pickup. Seduction techniques. Approach, signal intent, build rapport, escalate with consent. Play the numbers game. Upgrade your life ; hygiene, fitness, wardrobe, social skills, wealth, status. There is a lot that goes into game. But being masculine isnt part of it.
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:50 AM
-2

the fact that your own rant ends with 'be a virile man' is peak irony. toxic masculinity vs toxic masculinity lmfao pickup isnt just for men! and men dont need to be masculine and 'virile' to have success in game either. game knows no gender
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:07 AM
1

ask for consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:23 AM
1

always ask for consent before touching anyone. if youre not asking for consent you should feel gross
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:20 AM
1

because shes toxic AF man
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:16 AM
1

these are red flags for game or did you mean to post this in r/relationships ?
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:15 AM
3

i dont see how this is about game. but you def dodged a bullet there man
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:14 AM
1

lmfao a sexual assault is not a 'successful seduction '
/r/seduction03/06/22 12:22 PM
2

probably my best luck has been either when i have a hot female wingman or when im being very indirect and chill. or both. being too forward can make you seem desperate. but it depends a lot on the situation. sometimes, when time is limited, you need to be forward or you'll miss your opportunity.
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:22 AM
0

thats sexual assault
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:20 AM
1

that can be a very sexy way to get the ball rolling for sure
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:20 AM
-1

thats sexual assault
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:19 AM
0

consent is good game, its the right thing to do, and its the law. espousing sexual assault is weak as fuck
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:19 AM
0

always ask for consent
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:18 AM
1

just ask. you're overthinking this. its really as easy as just asking.
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:18 AM
1

very true. the mods stopped enforcing the rules and now you just have the blind leading the blind here. to find any good advice you have to sort thru tons of bad advice. while r/askseddit is basically dead
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:15 AM
1

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:12 AM
1

yep. some girls just dont give their numbers out quick, or dont use their phones much.
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:11 AM
5

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:10 AM
13

the more guys she's talking to the better i will look in comparison lmfao. so i feel the exact opposite of you. if you think you suck; improve. work on your self esteem. get rid of this negative mindset.
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:09 AM
1

just be yourself. youre overthinking this bro. dont ply games. be honest. be yourself. and get her out on a date ASAP. texting sucks. meet up with her in real life
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:08 AM
2

if you feel like a boring creep then you need to work on that before you start making approaches. self esteem is key. but no matter what you do; some people will think you're creepy, and some people will think you're boring. they just will. and others will think you're interesting and cute. you just need to make sure YOU are one of the people who feels good about YOU
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:07 AM
4

sounds like the real issue is just your the expectations and pressure you're putting on yourself. if you want to make a it a priority; do it. if you dont want to; dont do it. but whatever you decide; stop stressing. the stress is way worse than any action or lack of action.
/r/seduction03/06/22 09:04 AM
3

These sexist rants have nothing to do with game
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:30 AM
9

It can really depend on the relationship and your goals. I have found that if women are really comfortable around you and see that you're respectful and sensual then it's not very hard to cross things into FWB territory. It's been, at times, shockingly easy for me. But it depends on the person. If FWB is your goal dont be afraid to humble brag about how your ex only kept you around for the sex, and that's why she kept begging to come back every few months (or similar anecdote) . And dont be afra…
/r/seduction02/06/22 02:38 PM
24

downvoting for the shitty video link. but the actual point is correct. its all about vibes. pathos vs logos. go with pathos every time. find her passions; share them, excite them. and project a fun, sexy energy.
/r/seduction02/06/22 12:33 PM
53

yep. lost 40lbs, bought a new wardrobe, started a new career, wrote 3 novels. invested a lot more in my social group, and stopped trying to look for a serious relationship. i never had trouble with dating before (been doing pickup on and off for 12 years). but all of this recent self-work has really made game so much easier. in a way its kinda depressing because i was always a big body positivity advocate. didnt think my appearance really mattered that much, especially in regards to weight. but …
/r/seduction02/06/22 10:04 AM
1

depends on how the dates go. once you've hooked up all bets are off. it's not a r/seduction issue then its an r/dating issue. just be yourself. if youre a homebody; do that. if you like to do shit; do that. just chill and have fun and be yourself. relax.
/r/seduction01/06/22 04:03 AM
2

youre overthinking to the nth degree here. forget all the 'game' bullshit. just be yourself. develop your social skills and mindset and you wont have to play games. and get some more experience. you make it sound like youve never had a convo in your life here dude
/r/seduction29/05/22 09:42 AM
1

unless you have some specific reason to ghost then its better to send a message
/r/seduction29/05/22 09:40 AM
3

The girls who like the sleaze are exactly the ones you want to avoid.
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:19 AM
3

its not cheeky, its sleazy
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:09 AM
5

dont neg, thats weak shit man
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:02 AM
2

the sooner she flakes the sooner i can arrange another date. on very short notice its hard to arrange a replacement
/r/seduction29/05/22 02:18 AM
0

I do need to check twice cause i dont trust them for shit. And EVERYONE gets stood up regularly. Especially on OLD. People are flaky AF these days. That doesnt say anything about me other than that I'm prudent, communicative, and respect my time
/r/seduction28/05/22 04:41 PM
0

no, you're looking to make excuses about why your game is weak so you dont have to improve yourself. seduction isnt gendered. but it needs to have respect, and self awareness. two things you lack.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:54 PM
-1

I'm nonbinary thanks :P and blaming 'feminism' for pointing out your sexism is idiotic. dropping the sexism will help you if you ever really want to level up your game. but it's clear you'd rather just stew and keep treading water.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:49 PM
-1

im not blaming the game, im blaming your game. you been out there for years, and you still sucks. cause you wont take responsibility for your failures and actually improve. easier to blame women. go cry a river over it
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:38 PM
0

your point is your game sucks and you're blaming it on your appearance. and by extension trying to blame women for your failures. stop blaming others and level up your game.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:31 PM
7

i value my own time too much to waste it like that. i have better shit to do than go across town to get stood up. thats hours of my day wasted.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:22 PM
1

This rant has nothing to do with game Looks are a factor, but game is the bigger factor. I'm average looking, no issues with girls. Upgrade your game and stop whining, deflecting, and wallowing in self pity. Take ownership of your own failures, and your own success.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:21 PM
2

same way you approach anyone else never ever ever ever self reject. always make the approach. make her reject you. let her decide if you're in her 'league' or not. approach like you're a 10. have the swagger of a 10. let her reject you if she disagrees. and handle the rejection like a 10
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:41 AM
22

making sure you're not stood up isnt a game, its a time saver.
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:39 AM
-6

even if she responds well in the morning you should still check to make sure before you leave just to be extra safe
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:38 AM
8

i usually text 'leaving now, see you soon' a half hour before i actually leave lol if i dont get a response i do a 'running late' text and delay leaving for another half hour. still no response; i dont leave at all lol
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:37 AM
1

leave the young girl alone you creep
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:24 AM
1

this sub is not for sexist rants. this post has nothing to do with game
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:22 AM
3

dont. schedule a date.
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:22 AM
1

very classy to downplay someone being assaulted. but what should i expect from someone explicitly endorsing sexual assault?
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:20 AM
3

but you still cant escalate over video
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:19 AM
22

the real moral should be 'see her in person ASAP. minimize texting. maximize in person time' you cant escalate over text bro
/r/seduction27/05/22 05:53 AM
1

Spinning plates takes a lot of time and effort and those guys are totally focused on their businesses. They're workaholics. And 9 times out of 10 they put their partner to work for them too. Many great men are built on the unpaid labour of women
/r/seduction27/05/22 02:37 AM
1

No. But ive been sexually assaulted before, and most of my friends have been too. Consent is no joke.
/r/seduction26/05/22 09:31 PM
3

Same way you always invite a girl out. Make your intentions clear and shoot your shot.
/r/seduction26/05/22 10:51 AM
1

the majority of sexual assault is committed by straight males, so yeah that checks out
/r/seduction26/05/22 07:58 AM
1

Consent is exactly the same regardless of gender. Everyone deserves to have their boundaries respected
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:15 AM
2

Asking for consent is good game :P Sexual assault is not part of pickup
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:14 AM
1

Consent needs to be verbal, and (yes ) enthusiastic. But def verbal too
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:13 AM
0

Yes I disagree with that. And so does the law. The law specifically states that passivity is not consent. Some people freeze up under pressure. Everyone has a right to consider who they allow in their space well before any action is taken. Some people need a lot of time to make those considerations and they have a right to that
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:41 AM
0

That would fall under "implied consent " by law. It can get a bit grey sometimes. But def the first time you initiate contact should always have explicit verbal consent.
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:40 AM
1

Nah. Make the approach. Your energy will determine your perception more than the timing
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:37 AM
1

why does it matter? do you have some magical way to improve your appearance? if you do; just do it. broad topics like this arent allowed on the forum man. its gotta be game related and specific
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:24 AM
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yes always ask for consent before touching someone. no you dont look like a 'weenie' you look like someone who is not afraid of communication, you look like someone who has respect for their boundaries. respect and communication are sexy AF
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:21 AM
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if you dont know how to ask in a sexy way that makes her want to say 'yes' then you have no game. none. communication, and respect are sexy AF and its the law. its both good game, and morally right to ask for consent. there's no excuse not to
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:18 AM
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always ask for consent before you touch someone yes. if you touch someone without consent it's sexual assault.
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:14 AM
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i dont really have looks, money, or status lol but i find personality will take you far
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:06 AM
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