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women don't care about looks nearly as much as men it's maybe 30% They care even more, tbh. Especially young girls. If she isn't attracted to your looks, confidence and game won't cut any ice. Game is great, but it's for banging girls that are already attracted. You really can't MAKE her attracted if she isn't. That's why pro PUA's still get rejected a shit load
/r/seduction16/01/20 10:05 PM
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this, tbh
/r/seduction09/01/20 04:00 PM
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he didn't take no for an answer and kept persisting well after they were uncomfortable. of course. Because he believes you can game a girl into being attracted to you lol. Plus he said some bizarre stuff about being depressed to try to guilt them into giving him a chance to talk to them. Just various techniques he was throwing out - desperate for something to 'hook' the set. (guilt/framing them as being rude/self amusement/etc etc etc)
/r/seduction18/12/19 07:47 PM
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People are misinterpreting this infield as serious pick-up lol It was serious. Are we now pretending that all rejections are on purpose?? lol They just weren't into him. No big deal. That's the case for like 80% of sets for him, i'd wager It was just an example of a set that didn't work/ a rejection. Simple as that. That's what he 'intended the clip to represent' in his own words lol. (A set 'where it doesn't go well')
/r/seduction18/12/19 07:36 PM
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This is a PUA/sedution sub. Most people here use various stuff that they've learnt from PUA books. (including lingo) Did you mean to post here? I feel like you've stumbled across this sub tbh lol. I take it you are at least male? (I mention that as I note this sub seems to recently attract random women from different subs who post here for some reason)
/r/seduction18/12/19 07:29 PM
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Best advice is to stop comparing yourself with them. Some guys are genetically gifted (like maybe your taller, bigger friends). I have TWO legit male model friends so you can imagine the shit I see!! haha. YOu just have to get over it. Approach more than your friends to put the numbers game in your favour Try to work on confidence and approaching and shit, but don't expect to compete with chads. Not even in terms of confidence. That confidence comes from knowing girls think they're handsome (and…
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:50 PM
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All rejections looks cringey in hindsight since you're trying to game a girl who doesn't want to be gamed, tbh. If she had have loved that line it would look like amazing game. Still, he got his lay, so props to him
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:47 PM
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Good stuff! One can't game girls who don't want to be gamed, but you had the game to bang the girls that wanted you. Excellent work
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:46 PM
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You don't have a 'baby face' at all, tbh! Not even a tiny bit. Baby faces tend to be 'short' with neotenous features (small chin etc). You look very 'adult' What do your slayer friends look like? And How do they do it? (cold approach/tinder?) What do they have in common, would you say?
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:42 PM
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what's wrong with his haircut? OP: You don't have a 'baby face' at all, tbh! Not even a tiny bit. Baby faces tend to be 'short' with neotenous features (small chin etc). You look very 'adult' What do your slayer friends look like? And How do they do it? (cold approach/tinder?) What do they have in common, would you say?
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:42 PM
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I started out with mysterymethod, but eventually I realised the techniques don't actually 'work'. You get laid as a result of opening enough girls that you open a girl who is into you. You get her in spite of the negs and routines stuff, not because of them. I like the fact that scripted openers and stuff actually get guys too approach. That's good. But trust me, you can't 'game' a girl into finding you attractive. (no more than a girl could game you) And there's tonnes of lies out there in the …
/r/seduction15/12/19 07:39 PM
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When you 'game' a girl who isn't attracted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMTdjiHV2hY&feature=youtu.be
/r/seduction15/12/19 03:12 PM
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Sounds like good game. You applied everything under the umbrella of 'game' and she still wasn't attracted. This kind of proves what we all already know. It's a numbers game. If she isn't attracted to you, you can't make her! haha (that idea is so funny when you think about it. Imagine some fat old lady trying to 'game' you with techniques into wanting to bang her! Same thing) Just keep opening. All the pro's get rejected just as much as you! (except the handsome ones like RSDmax and Tusk lol)
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:31 PM
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You likely just weren't her type. You can't FORCE someone to be attracted to you i'm afraid lol ALso, go direct instead. Don't beat around the bush with mystery method weird stuff lol And tehre's no 'rules' at all. I ask all my girls their name and stuff straighta way!!
/r/seduction12/08/19 06:05 PM
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the guy at the bar wouldn't have had a shot if she didn't think he was handsome. People think they're running game but they're just being normal with a girl who thinks he's hot lol
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:34 PM
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What will gaurentee you better luck is using seduction and taking tips from this sub. Everything here seems so basic. Like 'remember to have good eye contact'', ''be outcome independent'', ''get a hobby like rock climbing'' etc What's your most effective seduction tip you use form this sub?
/r/seduction20/07/19 10:11 AM
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They're 18, bro. not 12! LOL. Plus he's in Europe. I bet the age of consent is like 14 or some shit. 18 year olds are often hot as fuck, perfect bodies. Very sexual.,They do porn and shit.
/r/seduction19/07/19 11:47 AM
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Looks don’t matter to girls that much Well, depends what you call 'much' They care at least as much as guys
/r/seduction06/07/19 11:16 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/932ixg/is_it_best_to_not_go_out_with_a_very_handsome_wing/
/r/seduction06/07/19 08:48 AM
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I know some people won't like this answer, but if your friends really are VERY good looking, i'd advise against going out with them to game. It's brutal Lets be grown up and not pretend that 'girls don't care about looks, bro' lol. It's the most ridiculous thing to say and as someone who has 2 very handsome wings, makes me cringe so hard. These guys have girls literally throwing themselves at them past 11pm once the alcohol flows a little without even saying 1 word lol It's all on a sliding scal…
/r/seduction06/07/19 08:40 AM
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If I approach a girl, it's because I want to have sex with her. Ideally that night
/r/seduction05/07/19 10:24 AM
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i think you can still buy the products (not that anyone should! It's all out there for free)
/r/seduction04/07/19 10:16 PM
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If a woman perceives you as a lower SMV than her and the first words out of your mouth is “You’re hot” it only confirms her perception of you and it hastens her rejection of you. Pure direct game only works if she perceives you to be higher SMV than her on the initial encounter. Yeah, this has always been my suspicion tbh, although I know that pro direct guys say that this isn't the case and that the very act of being so direct MAKES you high value etc. I dunno, tbh. The argument has been going …
/r/askTRP04/07/19 03:23 PM
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I feel it's similar for the mysterymethod fan boys. He's a clever dude and had some interesting ideas, but when it comes to getting laid, I feel like he done 'OK' (not great) and in a very specific environment whilst exploiting his talent and 'local fame' as a magician. (Don't think i've even seen an actuall PULL infield from him?!) . When it comes to going out and getting laid, i'm convinced that there are TONNES of guys way better than mystery (and probably not with his height and fairly good …
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:03 PM
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examples of openers?
/r/seduction04/07/19 12:24 PM
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so you think indirect is better. It just seems that maybe 70% of the community promote very direct game now. (make your intent crystal clear, tell her what you want, it's confident and girls love it etc). They say indirect is the worst. I'M still on the fence and play around with both IN fairness, i've seen both direct and indirect PUA's kill it, so i'm not certain it's even releveant
/r/askTRP04/07/19 10:58 AM
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so you don't verbally escelate in terms of showing intent? Like, never tell her she's hot or whatever? But instead just start touching her and talking about sex etc? ''Never complement on looks'' SO about her style or something? And what is your 'opener' usually out of interest? Say in a bar thanks
/r/askTRP03/07/19 10:53 AM
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Not just your own way of flirting. But Of GAMING!! When you think about how there's many top PUA coaches who couldn't possibly disagree with other top PUA coaches more than they do, you realise that there really are no rules to game. LIke, at all!! Literally everything you say/do will be wrong (bad game) in the eyes of certain PUA coaches (and good game in the eyes of others) So it's all about just finding what seems to work best for you. That might be being super direct and forward and sexual, …
/r/seduction19/06/19 08:58 AM
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so what things do you say to girls to evoke these feelings and make them want you sexually? (in the event that you aren't handsome and so your looks aren't doing all the work for you)
/r/TheRedPill10/05/19 11:25 AM
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Agreed. I read once that 'Game is about 'amplifying existing attraction' as opposed to creating it
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:04 PM
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lol. Of course girls have a physical type. Just like us guys do. That's what makes girls insta reject guys and not even give them a chance to run their 'game' and negs and push pull bla bla bla. She doesn't give a shit if she thinks you're ugly. Just teh way it is. Best too accept it. Imagine an 85 year old guy with no arms thinking he can pull any stunning teen he wants too because he's read teh game! haha
/r/seduction23/04/19 01:38 PM
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Good for you, man! Young girls are the hottest but they tend to write guys off over say, 25. If you can lie convincingly, then go for it!!
/r/seduction22/04/19 10:35 AM
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Basically, with cold approach pickup, she needs to be physically attracted to you for your 'game' to have a chance. If she thinks you're a greek God, you can get away with having very bad game. If she thinks you're decent looking, but don't blow her socks off and she's not totally sold on you, having charisma/confidence/humour (GAME) can help tip the odds in your favour. If she thinks you're ugly/you're totally not her type, all of the game in the world will be for nought. She'll either insta re…
/r/seduction18/04/19 10:16 PM
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you say what you say doesn't really matter. That leaves body language, vocal vol/pace, and hygiene in your list. Do you honestly think that them things are enough to make every girl you want attracted to you and want to have sex with you? As opposed to, the handsome guy in the same bar!? I think it's bordering deluded tbh!
/r/seduction18/04/19 12:55 PM
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age of consent isn't universal lol
/r/seduction18/04/19 12:51 PM
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you can't make girls sexually attracted to you, tbh. She either is or she isn't, basically. You can amplify existing attraction, though
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:44 AM
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it's the same for both sexes. We want people who we think are very physically attractive. So do girls. It's by far the most important thing for both sexes. If we think they are ugly, it's a non-starter and a waste of time. Probably why plastic surgery is on the rise! lol
/r/seduction16/04/19 07:15 AM
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Yeah, hard to argue with that. Looks really are the most important thing when it comes to cold approach pickup. She needs to be physically attracted to your looks. Otherwise, it just ain't gonna happen. Same as if an ugly girl tried to pull you!! And yeah, as you say, the rules change then, too. Like, an ugly guy being quiet is immediately branded creepy, weird etc. A really good looking guy being quiet is branded sexy and mysterious! lol
/r/seduction16/04/19 07:12 AM
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Just can't believe someone wouldn't know their own countries laws lol. But at least you know now
/r/seduction13/12/18 11:31 AM
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this!
/r/seduction13/12/18 11:13 AM
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You're wrong. I take it you aren't from the UK. I'm WAY older than 18 and have banged 16 year olds in recent years. She only needs to be older than 18 if you are like a school teacher or something
/r/seduction13/12/18 11:12 AM
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Come to the UK. 16 is legal here no matter how old you are :) And yes, girls that age are often hot as hell! At their peak
/r/seduction13/12/18 09:49 AM
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When someone posts a FieldReport here and he gets recjected, UNLESS he done something ridiculous, the reply should always be 'She just wasn't into. Next! Keep going, bro. She was a 'no' girl. Most will be!'' b But instead, he is told he should have went direct (if he went indirect) or he should have went indirect (if he went direct) or he should have asked better questions (if he asked her something like what she does for fun, or her job) or he should have asked her more normal/interview questio…
/r/seduction22/09/18 11:59 AM
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Only my age, really. If i'm trying to pull a very young girl home (like 17-21), i've been known to knock over a decade off my real age to help assuage any possible issues!
/r/seduction19/09/18 06:36 PM
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dancing in a club isn't ballroom dancing. Dudes look weird and try-hard trying to do loads of 'advanced' moves in clubs lol. Dudes who get laid just bob their head in time with the music and stuff.
/r/seduction19/09/18 08:05 AM
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Learn to dance. Learn to sing. Learn to cook. Learn to paint. Do interesting things and women will start to find you interesting and attractive. This is good advice for guys in their 60's, but opening some hot teen at a bar, it doesn't matter how good you are at painting and cooking, if she doesn't think you are hot, you'll do well to get past 'hi!!'
/r/seduction18/09/18 08:55 PM
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That's awesome. Are you good looking I take it?
/r/seduction17/09/18 04:13 PM
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I guess it's always a numbers game to some extent otherwise people like Julien wouldn't say he 'still get's rejected all the time' If his 'game' works on one single girl, but not the next 3 girls, maybe the necessary variable is that she is open to LETTING you hook her (maybe based on her physical preference at a guess)
/r/seduction07/09/18 07:19 PM
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spot on, and quite a food way of putting it.
/r/seduction04/09/18 08:54 PM
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You can't use 'game' to make someone attracted to you. She needs to be attracted to you before you've said a word, and THEN you can use 'game' (e.g be fun and interesting and charrismatic etc) so that you don't lose that attraction. Again - if a girl thinks you are ugly, you can't make her want to bang you by telling her a DHV story or whatever you have been taught. If your friend is that handsome, no amount of game will put you on his level i'm afraid
/r/seduction04/09/18 08:36 PM
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This happens evry day. It's no secret that looks are the main thing. When you think about it 'game' is supposed to build attraction (using negs and cold reads etc) but if you are very handsome, you ALREADY have attraction, so you just now need to escalate
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:53 PM
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he said himself that girls were opening and throwing themselves at his wing. No palm reading or dancing monkey required. Just a handsome face lol. Trust me, looks are basically everything. I think it was Mark Manson who said ''You can't 'create' attraction, but you can build on existing attraction''.
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:30 PM
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honestly man, girls are exactly the same as men. It's mainly PUA nonsense trying to sell people dreams about how they don't care about looks lol. You just can't make a girl wanna bang by reading her palm and telling her about your model ex girlfriend and making her laugh etc. It WILL make her think you are 'fun' IF she gives you a chance but she can't be sexually attracted unless she thinks you are handsome. Luckily lots of girls tastes in what 'handsome' is can vary, BUT if someone is ugly faci…
/r/seduction30/07/18 08:48 PM
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It's most likely he's just not the girls type if he's a bit on the ugly side tbh. This is the real world. If he's read lots of game he's very likely doing it 'right' according too at least one of the many PUA teachers bearing in mind they all difer so much! Good looks IS attraction and why good looking guys don't need 'game'. The idea is that you can BUILD ATTRACTION with game but that's not really the case in my experience. No amount of push pull and DHV stories etc can get a girl sexually attr…
/r/seduction30/07/18 08:22 PM
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I guess, make her laugh. Say something shocking. etc etc
/r/seduction21/07/18 04:07 PM
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Whether it's 'beta' or not, who cares. It'll help you get laid. Some girls LOVE guys with tats (as you noticed yourself from their tinder bios. 'no tats no chance' kind of thing) Bit like massive tits on a girl. You'd bang her soley for that reason. Girls are no different.
/r/seduction21/07/18 03:52 PM
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You should read some of the recent threads about social differences that I've read here. Quite interesting stuff, but lots of it confirmed what I've always known. It's hard to explain, but it's just a different world in some places. Going up too a random group on your own in the UK and trying to ingratiate yourself into their group would be considered super weird. They'd simply be like ''Cool. Anyway,. ,have a good night, mate'' and all walk away thinking ''I'm glad we managed to lose him'' kind…
/r/seduction21/07/18 07:16 AM
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You'll get all kind of advice on seddit, but I have to agree with you as a fellow Brit. Going out solo is like social suicide here. It will do more harm than good. It just isn't the same as the US. The only time you can get away with it is basically in very crowded clubs on the dancefloor when it's late I know how you feel though. I'd love to find some wings but it's hard if you are in the UK and outside London. It's not like there's RSD inner circle for some tiny town lol where about's in the U…
/r/seduction21/07/18 07:12 AM
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This is why including specifics in FR's on this sub is so annoying and dangerous lol. It's just one big example of hindsight bias and confirmation bias. If you would have succeeded and pulled her, everyone would have congratulated you on your brilliant direct game. But instead people are now saying that one shouldn't go direct because you got turned down lol. Similarly, if you decide to take their advice and approach some hot girl tomorrow and open indirectly and she rejects you, a different set…
/r/seduction02/07/18 10:03 PM
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However if you're 30 and goes around dating a 15 yo, most parents won't like that and they will take you to court. Maybe in YOUR country. In the UK they wouldn't be able to take someone to court if their 16 year old daughter was sleeping with a 50 year old. Why? Because it's legal in the UK. The law is the law over here. It doesn't matter whether the parents are 'ok' with it or not The age of consent isn't an absolute standard that makes it okay to sleep with minors. 'Ok' or the moralities is on…
/r/seduction29/06/18 12:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure parents of the girl can sue you anyway HAHA! You must be in teh US? Why do all Americans think everyone else online must live there too with their laws about suing people for everything lol. The law is the law. If he's in say the UK, she can be 16 and he can be 120, and it's perfectly legal. Nobody is get 'sued' lol
/r/seduction29/06/18 11:52 AM
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pedo's like kids who are like 7 lol. And he's probably in Europe where the age of consent can be like 15 or 16
/r/seduction29/06/18 11:30 AM
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cool. I don't hate it. Thanks
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:38 PM
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what's the opener?
/r/seduction09/06/18 09:13 AM
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Are you saying 'does being tall help counteract facial ugliness'? If so, I'd say 'yes, but only a little bit'
/r/seduction09/06/18 08:49 AM
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I would sometimes make a condescending comment towards the girl, end the conversation and walk away. Some would say that this is expert level game to be honest lol (aloof, make her chase, mysterymethod type stuff :)) But yeah, I know what you mean. I get this sometimes, but only with girls that I consider out of my league 'lookswise' and when they show IOI's very early on. I think it's like maybe I feel like ''she can't like me!'' and to save myself embarrassment of rejection, I don't flirt back…
/r/seduction08/06/18 07:31 AM
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I would say that yeah,he looks good Yeah, I figured. Unfortunately, good looking guys have a huge advantage over the rest of us. It'll be Impossible to compete with him so don't worry about it! All you can do is approach more than him and work on slowly improving your 'game' (basically coming across more confident). You will never be on his level, but you can still enjoy a good sex life with average looks It sucks but it's life. I have 2 legit male model friends who have never approached in thei…
/r/seduction29/05/18 10:03 AM
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tricks to turn the convo sexual?
/r/seduction29/05/18 09:21 AM
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Is he very good looking?
/r/seduction29/05/18 08:22 AM
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If you run more mysterymethod/indirect game, I guess this is always the risk. Hiding intent can make her think that you are not into her, or that you are scared, I guess
/r/seduction28/05/18 10:42 PM
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jesus, lol
/r/seduction28/05/18 12:57 PM
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It's probably better than boring her to death, though. ''So what made you want to be a nurse? bla bla bla'' type stuff. Especially in nightgame!!
/r/seduction28/05/18 09:49 AM
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You must have like a 600 lay count! haha. I always see your lay reports here. Keep it up ps- you run good looking guy tinder game from memory?? I can't quite remember cheers
/r/seduction28/05/18 09:42 AM
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To be honest, it probably sounds like a silly question and that 'of course it's an IOI', but even on a fairly empty dancefloor, i've had girls bump into me and dance really close even though there's room elsewhere. I'll think ''IOI?!!'' and i'll turn towards her and smile, or say hi,or extend my hand or even just dance facing towards her, and she'll look at me like a disgusting homeless person and then grab her friend and hide behind her like she needs saving!! haha So yeah, basically, you never…
/r/seduction27/05/18 05:14 PM
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You should never need to tell a woman how you feel about her. most PUA's use 'statements of intent' though? I guess to stop them havING those 'nowhere' interactions where they never actually 'make a move'?
/r/seduction27/05/18 02:23 PM
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It's just a matter of the girls who REJECT your kino aren't into you. Nothing you can do about it. They are not into you and you can't FORCE attraction. All girls have a 'type'. Just need to find 'yes girls'. They will let you escalate all the way without any bother at all. Think of it like screening instead of a 'move'
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:47 PM
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Everyone is from the US here and will tell you the 'women are the same everywhere bla bla bla'' but truth is, UK seems to be a different ballgame, man. I think it is WAY underestimate how hard cold approach can be in the UK due to the natural tendency to NOT want to talk to strangers. And as you say, it's not just a man-woman thing. Even going up too a dude in a bar and striking up conversation will tend to get you a weird look like ''Errr...where's YOUR friends, bro?! Leave me alone lol'' where…
/r/seduction15/05/18 03:22 PM
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What would you rate your looks out of 10?
/r/seduction04/04/18 09:26 AM
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Break his game down for me out of interest. Was he serious and sexual? Fun and self amusing? James bond game? Mystery method magic tricks? Aloof? etc etc. Give me an idea of how an open/transition/pull would look for him on a cold approach I've only ever known good looking dudes actually do well from cold approach in bars tobh, but i'll take you at your word and assume you're not tricking us lol
/r/seduction16/03/18 09:12 AM
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thanks. Helps a little bit, but more detail in the future would be useful. I love reading actual conversations. Probably why I like infields. And to answer YOUR first question, it's basically that I have a huge nose, poor hairline, small chin, scarred skin from old cystic acne that I took accutane for, and i'm short. I'll try to add some pics of me 'doing cool shit' but other than that, I feel I have everything else optimised. cheers
/r/seduction16/03/18 08:59 AM
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I'm actually not doing awfully with girls. 13 lays last year. 3 so for this year. I'll check out Tony Robbins book, although i've listened to some of his stuff on youtube before tbh. Maybe he can give me the confidence to think I can do a very comlicated, welll paid job, but not sure he can give me the intelligence lol Anyway, take it easy. cheers
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:48 AM
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Give me your good looks!! haha. I'm ugly af so don't get matches! Good body, just ugly face so it's a no from the girls PS - How do date conversations look like? I've never had one, but I just imagine they'd be super awkard. You just talk about her work, family, what she does for fun etc?
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:17 AM
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Describe his 'game' for us. What does he say to them?
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:08 AM
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You are clearly not living up to your potential I kind of think I am to be honest, lol. I've had other jobs that were more complicated where i've been let go fairly fast when they realised I wasn't clever enough to grasp the work and stuff. After that happened in various jobs (office, factory etc), I decided to do warehouse work as I can't really go wrong loading lorries! I guess you're suggesting going back to college as an old dude and trying to pass a course to get a qualification, but I thin…
/r/seduction15/03/18 11:58 PM
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play on brother! I'm living vicariously through you!! :)
/r/seduction15/03/18 09:42 PM
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I'm the opposite. Never got CLOSE to getting laid on tinder (almost no matches, and teh ones I do match are never actually interested), but banged a fair few girls with one night stands in the last year or so from night game. You're results seem strange. If I had to guess i'd say you're either very very good looking but don't have 'game'? Or maybe you just have low standards in terms of online girls? Or maybe it's something else and i'm completely wrong! I just can't think how someone can get la…
/r/seduction15/03/18 10:19 AM
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online dating is really just for very handsome dudes tbh. (as in, banging hot young things) I think your odds of getting a girl better looking than you are slightly increased in the 'real world'. Ditch it
/r/seduction15/03/18 09:53 AM
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No, though at 32 you should have both of those. Ouch. That actually hurt to read, lol. I've never had a 'good' job, and so i've certainly never had money or status. I wasn't clever enough to get a degree unfortunately which limits job options (genetics. We can't all be super smart. Always struggled at school) but I do work a lot of hours in a warehouse that pays a little above minimum wage and try to be careful with my money so I have a few K in the bank. Will that do?
/r/seduction15/03/18 09:20 AM
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Game is essentially the art and science of communicating that you have another chick in your life whether it's reality or not. Interesting definition. I don't hate it. It's the art of hitting on a girl without her being sure that you are hitting on her. Hmmm....So what do you think about people like Mark Manson, James Tusk, All of the 'London day game Model' PUA's, Evolution daily etc etc? Basically people who make it VERY obvious that they are indeed hitting on her and are super direct. I could…
/r/seduction14/03/18 09:08 PM
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I already do all of that tbh. Face is much more important that anything else though in my experience. My 2nd biggest slayer friend is only about 5'7'' and he's not ripped or anything, but he has male model good looks facially.
/r/seduction14/03/18 08:12 PM
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how are you defining 'game'? It all seems to be 'inner game' nowadays (get a good job, lots of hobbies, 'what you say doesn't matter' etc - ''Once you are happy they'll come to you'' kind of thing) PS - I don't believe that. I have 2 good friends who have EXTREMELY well paid jobs and hobbies etc who haven't got laid in about 5 years And most old school game stuff (negs etc) have been more or less dismissed as being ineffective. What things, in your opinion, specifically, should a guy be doing if…
/r/seduction14/03/18 08:08 PM
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more details. How did you open. How did the convo go and for how long etc
/r/seduction14/03/18 05:50 PM
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I know all of the theory about girls not caring about looks etc, but I game with a few very handsome dudes, and the differences in the way girls treat us is like night and day! They even get approached and girls are fighting over each other to touch them. It's madness. So I just don't believe the theory. I mean, i'm not saying that you need to be a male model to get attraction, but I DO think that she needs to think that you are good looking (however she defines that) for you to have a shot with…
/r/seduction14/03/18 04:15 PM
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self image one hits home - If I was handsome, I don't think i'd have much AA at all, as i'd be confident of being well recieved
/r/seduction14/03/18 03:29 PM
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I dunno man. It could be something else. But assuming it WAS the sex, I think that some people just kind of 'fit' together sexually and some don't. I banged this Polish woman a few months back, and she was instantly addicted to me. Like, non-stop asking me when I could bang her again, contacting me in every way possible, telling me how great I am in bed etc. Made me feel like a bit of a stud, but I banged a Czech girl last week, and she more or less booted me out of her flat straight after, didn…
/r/seduction11/03/18 09:31 PM
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how do you know your bad? What is 'bad'? I mean, other than only being able to last a few minutes or if your cock is like 2 inches long erect, I'm not really sure how someone can be good OR bad, to be honest. I don't think there's a secret magical way of thrusting for example
/r/seduction11/03/18 09:15 PM
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but he seems to have ZERO actual 'game'? He doesn't actually do anything to make the girls attracted from the infeilds i've seen. I mean, i'm not sure you can really call it 'game'? Almost every infield is: Hi, can i meet you real quick? I think you're hot. What's your name? Where are you from? Oh, I'm tall? thanks. I'm 6ft 5! It's my friends birthday tonight. I'm a DJ. Do you like grey goose? We're all headed back to mine to party. You should come. End of infield. I just don't think there's any…
/r/seduction06/02/18 10:43 PM
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LOL, why?! I must have missed something. Why was I downvoted? Because I got Amogged i'm guessing?
/r/seduction05/02/18 09:22 PM
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sucks that he amoged you. I got Amog'd a fucking TREAT a while ago. I felt like killing the dude, but I can almost laugh about it now! haha. He stole the teenager (half my age) who I was close to banging from under my nose and I think he purposely smashed my glass so that it looked like I was drunk to the bouncers and thus got thrown out, leaving him to bang my girl!! lol
/r/seduction26/01/18 11:17 AM
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Pretty sure Tom torero said he needed like 30 approaches to get a date or something? And he's supposed to be the bet UK daygamer (although he was caught using actresses for his 'kiss close' lol). It's numbers game. Obviously a super good looking guy will get numbers on loads of approaches. You can't really 'game' a girl into wanting to bang you. There's no magic lines or anything
/r/seduction26/01/18 11:09 AM
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Doesn't really answer your question, but a cliff notes from an article I saved from 'the attraction forums' in regards to US VS UK is as follows: TLDR: EXPECT COLD APPROACHES IN A UK CLUB TO BE JUST THAT… COLD… EVEN ON AVERAGE LOOKING GIRLS. As a general rule, girls in the UK have a much higher perceived sexual value. A British girl you would rate as a 7, is more than likely to have a bitch shield comparable to a 10 you might meet in America for example Average age of girls will be younger. For …
/r/seduction09/01/18 10:10 PM
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I'm your age and banged a 17 year old this year. (UK before all of the guys from countries with different age laws jump all over me lol) Also a few 18 year olds. (The 17 year old was by far the hottest girl i've ever gotten. I don't expect to match that before I die! She was my idea of a 9) I'm not a handsome slayer though. I'm crap at getting laid, but if I can do it, it at least proves it's possible!! Requires lots of approaches and a thick skin! But yeah, it's gonna be a little difficult to g…
/r/seduction22/12/17 03:27 PM
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how do your friends get laid so easily? cold approach? Any way you can watch them in action and learn?
/r/seduction22/12/17 09:38 AM
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Girls are like horses
/r/seduction18/12/17 09:34 AM
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I always feel more confident with girls after a night of heavy drinking, because it usually makes my voice about twice as deep/powerful the day after!!
/r/seduction15/12/17 08:37 PM
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premature ejokeulation
/r/seduction09/12/17 01:45 PM
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Yep, i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, because I actually noticed the EXACT same thing as you ; that being direct can make the whole interaction fun and purposeful and partly eliminates all awkwardness. Good stuff. BUT, we need to be weary of the cause/effect relationship when we look at things like going direct vs results. Purists would say that going direct will never get you the 'no' girls, or even most of the 'maybe' girls. Only the girls who are into you, and who you could have gott…
/r/seduction07/12/17 02:51 PM
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Direct is almost considered to NOT be game at all by lots of people, but rather literally pure numbers game, hoping to find a girl who thinks you are hot and is thus interested in you as soon as you open her directly
/r/seduction07/12/17 02:38 PM
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i've just seen this. To be honest, i'd feel weird about ANY guy trying to seduce my daughter ; whether he's 17 or 30! Either way, they both just want to get inside her, so I don't really see the difference. The 17 year old is more of a threat as he has a better chance being that he's young/similar interests/better looking etc etc. But teenagers slut it around big time in the UK, so it's not really 'taking advantage of them'. They can say no. They WANT to get dicked. If I turn it down, some other…
/r/seduction07/12/17 11:58 AM
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My last lay was 17 and i'm in my 30's! As long as it's legal, do what the hell you want!!
/r/seduction05/10/17 07:49 PM
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interesting that the top post is essentially 'Just be good looking'. I wonder if seddit is changing it's tune in regards to looks vs pickup?
/r/seduction08/08/17 04:32 PM
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Any tips on what to say to 'communicate emotionally' after I open?
/r/seduction30/06/17 09:54 AM
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I only meet girls on nights out, but are you saying you're better off getting her number for a date rather than going for the pull that night? (I don't have girls in my social circle and work with all men so that option isn't really 'on')
/r/seduction29/06/17 10:43 AM
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How do the conversations go? What do you open and follow up with? I think about doing this sometimes when I see absolutely gorgeous single young girls on FB who are like friends with my little cousin or something. But I wouldn't really know what to say, and from what i've heard from girls taht I know, they consider it weird/creepy and say they woudn't reply, but obviously your experience tells a different story!
/r/seduction28/06/17 08:41 PM
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do you have any routines or anything to 'give her an emotion ride/fun'? Most of my approaches (bars/nightgame), I open, try to smile and be confident, she seems uninterested, I ask her questions about herself, she answers them but is trying to get away, I try to 'make some assumptions' as i've been taught. Then I run out of things to say since she isn't really contributing much, and then she leaves, lol But my good looking friends can literally get away with just saying 'hi' and then the girl is…
/r/seduction28/06/17 02:40 PM
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If a girl thinks you are physically unnatractive, what 'practices' do you think best still give you the abilily to attract and fuck her? cheers
/r/seduction28/06/17 10:22 AM
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I don't think so. I personally almost never find black girls physically attractive. Like, Rhianna and a young Tyra Banks are about teh only examples of hot black girls that I can think of, lol. I also don't tend to find Asian girls hot either, whereas loads of my friends certainly do. I'm all about slim, young White girls with dark hair and coloured eyes. Lots of Russian girls are perfect looking to me You like what you like
/r/seduction04/06/17 12:48 PM
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With daygame, I find the actual 'open' can be easier than night game since the bitch shields are down. I just find the actual 'conversation starter' harder in day game for some reason. Other than like ''So.........what are you up to today?'' I can't tend to think of much, lol. But i'm mainly about night game anyway, although at times I wish I was more confident with daygame. I saw this STUNNING GIRL at the bus stop yesterday, but just didn't really know what to say to her after the open, so bott…
/r/seduction09/05/17 09:32 AM
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is that a program for getting laid on tinder and stuff as opposed to cold approach?
/r/seduction08/05/17 10:44 PM
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''Have you ever lacked the courage to approach a girl because you thought you were not enough for her?'' Every day! :) Not so much about 'lifetstyle' (you mention instagram) With me, it's all looks based. I find it hard to imagine that a hot girl who can have any guy including male models would want an ugly guy. This is even AFTER I was able too amaze myself recently and bang a GORGEOUS girl! I think of it as a complete fluke/lottery win.
/r/seduction05/05/17 02:24 PM
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Hmmmm....Not sure to be honest. I've not tried it in ages. Next time I give it a go, I'll be sure not too eat within 2 hours before/after, although I don't hold out much hope. Also possible that it's the brand, I guess
/r/seduction02/05/17 06:51 PM
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I can relate too the OP. I'm usually pretty aweful when sober. I occasionally hit 'God mode' when i've had maybe 4 beers and am with certain friends who tend improve my general vibe, though. Personally, phenibut done fuck all for me, unfortunately. I've gone as high as 2000mg will still zero effect.
/r/seduction02/05/17 05:34 PM
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My most recent (and probably final) Field Report https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/65u8ca/holy_shit_another_lr_half_my_age/ She was honestly gorgeous. I am (at very best) average!
/r/seduction25/04/17 12:49 PM
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legit
/r/seduction18/04/17 02:15 PM
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lol, yep. I see people didn't lke my answer, though!! :) I don't see the big deal. Lots of men lie about their jobs and stuff too impress girls, and nobody seems to be too bothered. Women lie about shit, too. Just helping to put the odds in my favour. I have a fairly young looking face and can pass for 24 or so most of the time. Even though it's possible, lots of the hottest girls (16-22 or so) don't tend to want someone over like 26. You see it on their tinder profiles all of teh time. It's sti…
/r/seduction17/04/17 06:11 PM
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I'm always lying about my age, lol. In most of my FR's I lie about my age to girls as the girls that I go for tend to get put off when I reveal my actual age. In fact, my first ever SNL I knocked about a decade off my age! And yes, I probably am a bit dodgy!
/r/seduction17/04/17 11:21 AM
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??? I'm in the UK. 16 is legal no matter how old you are
/r/seduction17/04/17 08:06 AM
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'Being yourself' is Good advice.....for a natural!
/r/seduction16/04/17 11:14 AM
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you kidding me? People tend to be out on Thursday, Friday, Sat, AND Sun in teh UK on the easter break! At least everyone I know does!
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:30 PM
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I know exactly how you feel, lol. People like Tyler and Julien always say things like ''at that point, i'd just say something funny to spike her emotions and make her laugh'' and i'm thinking ''Jut say something funny?! What?? If I told you to make me laugh right here, right now, could you do it?'' Similar when someone tells you to 'tease her'. About what??! What if she's not really giving you anything to work with? You can't tihnk of anything to 'tease' her about I sometimes think that 'canned …
/r/seduction14/04/17 09:57 AM
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I'v had most of my best results when using the much hated 'routines' What are some of your 'go too' routines for various stages? Like hooking after teh open/teasing etc? (for when you are not 'in state') cheers
/r/seduction09/04/17 08:14 PM
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probably a good way to learn faster.
/r/seduction08/04/17 01:29 PM
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I think you done awesome and showed balls of steel. However, i'm interested in what people think he could have done better at in terms of conversation. Lets forget about her having a boyfriend and pretend she didn't mention it. What sort of things could have have said. What sort of teases? What sort of assumptions? What sort of things might have made good conversation? I't amazing that despite whatching hundreds of infields, my brain can't seem to learn to be able to come up with the sort of thi…
/r/seduction08/04/17 10:15 AM
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My friend is WELL into his 30's and he fucks girls as young as 16 on the regular, lol. But in fairness, he looks very good. Tall, dark and handsome.
/r/seduction07/04/17 05:05 PM
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that's probably slightly harsh. I could write so many RSD approaches in script form that are VERY simlar to the OP's script. The only difference being that the girls in the RSD vids the girls are much more responsive and actually talk back with more than one word answers, which, in turn, makes the interaction less boring and much easier He was basically talking too a brick wall. I live in teh UK, so I know how these young Brit girls are!
/r/seduction03/04/17 07:36 PM
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Confused why this post seems to be getting down voted. most posts on seddit get downvoted at first. All of my FR's certainly do, lol. There's a fair few trolls here who just spend all day downvoting stuff, but usually it evens out.
/r/seduction30/03/17 09:39 PM
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It's called sin city, and women go there wanting to be fucked and have a good time, so I'm wondering if what you say even matters. It probably won't be quite as easy as you think! However, fact is that it's a holiday destination with, as you say, a reputation for partying. British people go to places to Magaluf (a Spanish island) every year with the hopes of getting easy sex since it's packed with drunk 16 year olds who are away from their parents for the first time and are behaving in a wreckle…
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:42 PM
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What stopped you making out? Genuinely this nonsensical method or nerves? Would definitely not blame you if the latter. All been there 😉 I'd be lying if I said I wan't somewhat afraid of 'rejection' for going for the kiss so i'm sure that played a part, but as I say, I seem to read more and more about girls slut defense and how, if you makeout, they think that you think sex is guaranteed, and they then play even harder to get. I'd also watched an RSDMax vid on youtube like an hour before going o…
/r/seduction26/03/17 03:13 PM
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I take it you are familiar with my millions of FR's?!! :) It was definitely a very positive interaction, but I don't get carried away. It seems VERY hit-and-miss for me. I could literally get 10 super harsh instant rejections if I went out tonight and feel like i'm clueless again! :)
/r/seduction26/03/17 02:12 PM
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I'm amazed on how calibrated and smooth you are lol, thanks. That's funny. I literally never get laid so I can't be that smooth, although that paricular interaction did seem to go fairly smoothly in general I wished you payed a little more attention to her sister (the obstacle) and 'negged' your target in front of her in order to disarm the obstacle. I've obviously left out little details, but the sister (who was married) actually really liked me. She kept trying to talk to me, and my memory is …
/r/seduction26/03/17 02:10 PM
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What's your tips for getting them smiling and laughing for teh firts 5 mins? After you open, what do you lead with in order to achieve this?
/r/seduction25/03/17 10:19 AM
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I know what you mean, but I also kind of think that as a student/believer of 'game' that it should be possible to adapt and do something to make these non-responsive/'no girls' attracted to you.
/r/seduction24/03/17 03:27 PM
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I have this problem too. It seems varies a LOT on how much I struggle with this, though. I guess opening DIRECTLY makes the whole thing seem more natural and easier, although I don't tend too open directly. I only do night game where i'm told that in general, indirect is far superior If i'm talking too a girl, and I can tell she somewhat likes me and maybe we're being 'playful physical', I find it easier to start sexualising a tiny bit. Giving her a compliment or accusing her of hitting on me se…
/r/seduction24/03/17 09:36 AM
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I think it totally depends on the girl which is why lots of 'game' advice and theories are constantly argued over. Some (most?) girls WOULD be completely put off by you admitting you are nervous. Some would think it's 'cute'
/r/seduction24/03/17 08:58 AM
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Sounds like me. Even though i'm slightly older, i've only really been 'gaming' for about a year. But i've got a lot more approaches under my belt, so you should probably be approaching a little more. I try to make like 15 approaches when i'm out in bars or whatever. I've made about 500 approaches, I'd say (rough estimate). Lots of them approaches are just like 15 second interactions, though. I say 'hi' an she more or less says 'go away' lol. (Im in the UK!!! People aren't friendly with strangers…
/r/seduction24/03/17 08:53 AM
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sure, but then they're going out to drink and dance. Not get laid. Or they could drink and dance, and then text one of their tinder matches back
/r/seduction22/03/17 10:56 PM
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my only ever one night stand was quite 'lucky' since she had just been dumped by her boyfriend, AND she was pretty damn drunk!
/r/seduction22/03/17 10:03 PM
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I guess so? But then, why would they need too when they have literally 100 guys on standby from tinder and stuff?
/r/seduction22/03/17 10:02 PM
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It's actually quite an interesting question in a way. Over the years, 'game' has kind of got away from methods and lines and techniques, and is all about 'inner game'. Being your best self. ''What you say doesn't matter'' etc People on forums always say ''I ran my game on her'', but if you were to look at the interaction, it'd just be him asking her questions about her life, and just them having a normal conversation. I guess the only difference between 'game' and just 'talking too a girl' is ki…
/r/seduction22/03/17 10:00 PM
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I never know whether to blame myself or the girl for the 'bad' interactions. I tend to blame myself, and thus am always on the quest for 'good material', 'good conversation topics', 'how to inject FUN into a boring conversation with someone who isn't talking etc'' It's not as if ALL of my interactions are 'bad'. If I take a few recent approaches. This one was 'good'. I opened her by asking if it was a gay bar. She laughed and asked me why I thought that. I pointed out some guy with a funny moust…
/r/seduction22/03/17 02:20 PM
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which of their stuff helped you with actual game the most? I've only slept with a few girls. I'm very old, too. It's just kind of impossible (the girls don't want me). I've watched basically everything RSD have ever put out! I've made LOTS of approaches, too. Not just an armchair guy What sort of method/model do you use? What does a typical night game approach/conversation/etc look like for you?
/r/seduction20/03/17 07:49 PM
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Do you always need to do sometihng like the ''I love you!'' thing in order to BEGIN the physical escalation? I just find it weird in my brain how one would start touching a girl (with the exception of things lke the non-sexual touching like taps on the shoulder to make a point etc) in any other way. i.e - It feels like you need some sort of 'reason' for kino? I just imagine it always being really awkward and expect a 'weirded out' reaction if one just starts touching a girl 'out of nowhere'!
/r/seduction20/03/17 07:45 PM
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The good looking guy all the girls want
/r/seduction20/03/17 07:43 PM
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Lots of people are saying 'tell her', 'compliment her' etc I think the confusion is just because of the drastically different schools of thought. Like mystery is all about concealing your feelings. Lots of other pickup artists say to NEVER compliment the girl etc. Whereas mark manson is all about putting your balls on the line and telling her how you feel It confuses people when various respected pickup guys who presumably know what they're talking about give you such drastically different advic…
/r/seduction20/03/17 11:38 AM
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I only do night game (day game seems pointless in the UK unless you live in London and can hit on tourists and stuff) I tend to go out 2 nights per week - Probably approach like 15 girls per night, so 30 approaches per week on average, I guess. Think I might need to drastically increase this number though if i'm to have a shot at getting laid this year if current results are anything to go by!
/r/seduction20/03/17 09:56 AM
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what was pointed out to you that made things get better?
/r/seduction20/03/17 09:50 AM
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Your first 10 will be awkward/shitty. You gonna realise what you did wrong How does one actually know? If you follow the pickup advice you read and you approach a girl and apply it and she is not remotely interested, how do you know what you done wrong? As someone else said, it's not as if she'll pull you to the side and explain it to you. It could literally be a million things. If you're first approach goes brilliantly, but your second approach goes really bad, yet you use the same 'approach', …
/r/seduction20/03/17 08:43 AM
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Just trying to implement everything I read about, but didn't really get the chance in most of the interactions. Obviously it's always ideal to 'have a good time', but really how much 'fun' is it to speak to girls who don't really want to talk to strangers? Whenever I find a 'responsive' girl, I can usually make it fun (assuming she is fun herself) but I find it hard to create fun out of thin air with someone who doesn't want to talk. Bit like trying to have a good time talking with a chair! :) -…
/r/seduction19/03/17 11:05 PM
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I was there last night! (I hardly ever go there) We could have met up, lol
/r/seduction19/03/17 06:18 PM
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My fashion is good, i think. I tend to buy new clothes fairly regularly from places like ASOS and often just copy exactly what the model is wearing so that I know it is'fashionable'. (obviously I pick things that I like/think look good). I also malefashion sub reddit Yeah, I know it's to be expected to get cold reactions - especially in the UK. I do try not to take it personally, but I won't lie and i'll admit I woke up feeling depressed and jealous this morning, lol. Jealous of that guy who som…
/r/seduction19/03/17 03:32 PM
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This is exactly my issue. I read lots of good advice to do with making assumptions, free associating, ploughing etc, but none of it helps if the girl just doesn't like you/want to speak to you! And the problem is that lots of girls fall into that category! Especially in the UK! I always give myself a hard time and try to work out 'what I done wrong', but I also kind of think that RSDTyler himself couldn't do any better than me with most of the girls who reject me! They just aren't interested, lo…
/r/seduction18/03/17 05:03 PM
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where do you live out of interest? I live in between brighton and London
/r/seduction18/03/17 11:23 AM
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Go for it then, bro! :) Pick a nice, hot young one and treat yourself! Assuming it goes well, i'm almost certain you won't regret it! It'll get the monkey off your back as you say.
/r/seduction18/03/17 10:24 AM
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Yeah, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I mention Poland specifically as the example of where the 'status effect' of being a Brit has worn off a lot from what I read. Maybe due to so many PUA's going to them places to try to bang the girls who would be out of their leagues back home and they are starting to see what's going on!? But obviously places like Thailand and stuff would still be a pussy paradise for a white guy. And I even think the US girls still seem to go for the Brit acccent from what I …
/r/seduction18/03/17 10:23 AM
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lol. I'd LOVE to come to the US, but can't afford that. Been thinking about going to Poland or somewhere for a pickup trip, but from what I read, over the last few years or so, the 'easy-pickings' and status of being a Brit has really disappeared. Lots of jourhals on Rooshv forum of guys going to Poland after never getting laid in their own country, and finding out it's just as hard over there now! I think US is probably one of the best from what i've seen on peoples infields (and from my brief …
/r/seduction17/03/17 06:02 PM
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Yeah. I have lots of FR's here, lol. I am in the UK, though. Girls tend to think cold approach is 'weird' here. Plus i'm like 30, and only going for much younger girls, as that's what I find attractive If you read peoples journals on pickup forums, you'll find LOTS of others who approach a hell of a lot more than me who also don't get laid. Looks and location probably come into it a HELL of a lot at a guess
/r/seduction17/03/17 05:51 PM
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I kind of do them 3 things. (go out Friday and Saturday nights, make around 20 approaches per night. I kind of write 'lessons' in the form of posting field reports here and elsewhere. I haven't had coaching, but I have invested in a few RSD 'products'.) It's been about 10 months for me since I began. No changes yet in my non-existent sex life, but I live in hope! :)
/r/seduction17/03/17 05:19 PM
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Hmmmmm.....Many of you may know me from my various field reports. Story in brief: I'm 30 now. Always been very unsuccessful with girls. On the short side. Not great looking. Got laid once or twice when I was a little younger (although still much older than when my friends first got laid) down to extreme luck. Then zero girls for over a decade. Started reading 'pickup' a year or so ago at the age of like 29. Got laid by a teenager on just about my first ever cold approach in a bar! Beginners luck…
/r/seduction16/03/17 05:29 PM
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I'm not talking about this guy, but i've noticed more and more pickup channels with good looking, young guys pulling young girls in touristy/party destinations - It's hard to know whether its's actually 'game' or just what naturally happens when a good looking guy approaches girls who are in party/holiday mode! I think some PUA's mistakenly attribute their success to 'game' as opposed to looks/logistics. 2 (of MANY) that spring to my mind is some guy called RSDBerlin (i think?) and another one c…
/r/seduction16/03/17 03:43 PM
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There is nothing you can do to make a girl like you That sort of talk would get you banned on some pickup forums for being a 'game denier'! :) (not that I necessarily disagree)
/r/seduction16/03/17 11:39 AM
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Those who get better looking facially just have good bone structures. As you have witnessed, sometimes you'll see a complete fat ass who has a nice looking face, with angles etc. He's lucky enough to have a good, strong, non-recessed bones. Even with the extra fat, he still has facial definition I'm more like you. I was never 'fat', but I used to be very untoned and slightly chubby. I hated my fat, undefined face though. I started working out like a mad-man, got myself a nice 6-pack, but my face…
/r/seduction16/03/17 11:14 AM
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exactly. I think Not having girls in your social circle isn't really a problem. I have a big social circle with basically all guys. Even though I'M rubbish with girls, some of the other guys who get laid non-stop ALSO don't have any girls in their actual social circle. It doesn't do them any harm. I don't think it's really that relevant, personally. It's not like they're an alien breed you need to study and be around in order to magically know what they are always thinking and then use that info…
/r/seduction15/03/17 09:22 PM
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If you have no female friends your social life sucks. You're missing out big time and definitely don't know how women think or how to talk to them. They're just human beings though. Not Aliens. He probably has a mum or a sister so 'knows how girls think'. Besides, there's all kinds of pickup material that teaches you how to talk to them and all that stuff :)
/r/seduction15/03/17 07:41 PM
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Them vids show why most guys here in Europe (particularly England) are so jealous of people who live in the US, lol. Game (Day game in particular) is a different animal over there since the girls are just super open to being approached and don't think it's weird
/r/seduction15/03/17 07:17 PM
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:)
/r/seduction15/03/17 09:30 AM
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lol, thanks man, but I shouldn't inspire you! I'm basically incel! Pick a guy who gets laid to inspire you!! Have you read my FR's?!! :)
/r/seduction15/03/17 09:15 AM
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I have also mentioned in the past that i've been cursed to have lots of VERY good looking friends! :) A number of my good friends are close to model material. One of them WAS a model! They get laid nonstop, although a lot of it is through tinder. They see tinder as just 'free prostitutes'! They don't even tend to do 'dates'. Just 'come over if you are DTF!' kind of thing I have maybe 300 male 'friends', and only about 4 of them have ever gotten much success through actual COLD APPROACH. (all han…
/r/seduction15/03/17 09:08 AM
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Why do I still try? Because I feel like a friggin' virgin, lol. I've only slept with a few girls in my whole life. Most of my friends laycounts are well into the 50's + (some a lot more) and they've never heard of 'game'. I'm trying harder than ever now, but only since the last year or so. I have a shit load of field reports on here. Pretty much all failures, but I plan to soldier on! If I can get laid just a few times from now before I die (with the type of girls I actually want), it'll have be…
/r/seduction14/03/17 07:37 PM
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I agree that I thought it was an interesting read and motivational in terms of general living, but I don't think it helped me at all in terms of actually getting laid! The practical elements were very brief to the point that my interactions with girls I approached were basically identical to before I read the book which obviously isn't ideal, lol
/r/seduction14/03/17 09:29 AM
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yeah, I know Tyler is an old-hand at this. I just notice that he often says 'something' after his open (even if his open is just 'hi, I'm Owen') that makes the girl laugh. I don't know whether he just has a list of canned material in his back pocket or whether he just has so much experience he knows what a girl will find funny in each situation, or maybe a mixture of the two. I often find myself opening, and then 'making assumptions' as i've been told to do. Approach number 1 in the FR was somew…
/r/seduction13/03/17 12:45 PM
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Awesome that you took the first approach to the death. Yeah, it was one of the first times i've attempted to stay in set even when the girl is giving me the impression that she wants me to leave her alone, lol. I tried, but I don't think I done a great job. I just struggle for things to talk about that won't bore her after I've opened, sometimes.
/r/seduction12/03/17 07:41 PM
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Overall, it looks like you have good game and a solid FR. Keep going out and posting! Thanks. It's been said on a few of my FR's (i've posted shit loads) that I 'have good game', but then, the fact is that I never pull, lol. I don't think that there was a great deal more that I cold haev done last night in fairness, and so I'm relatively happy in the knowledge that I really did 'do my best' last night, whereas on some nights, I wake up depressed, thinking about how I fucked up at various points.…
/r/seduction12/03/17 07:38 PM
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looks a bit like Jake Gyllenhall and the amount of attention he received from the women last night was pretty crazy Makes sense!
/r/seduction12/03/17 04:48 PM
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haha, thanks man! But no, I wasn't alone. Was out with 2 guys. Even managed to get one of them who has like never made an approach in 30 odd years have a go!
/r/seduction12/03/17 03:34 PM
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The Problem as has been said a few times is that all of the self improvement advice doesn't tend to help at all in terms of getting girls. It's a myth. I know lots of people with very successful, interesting lives who SUCK with girls. Maybe meds for the anxiety, and then just get out there and play the numbers game and maybe improve a little over time.
/r/seduction11/03/17 10:26 AM
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I really wanted too apprpach this hot girl who was stacking shelves when in the petrol station when I was on my lunch break the other day, but I just didn't know what to say to her, lol. Didn't want to be like ''So.....how's your shift going?!' but that's all I could think of so didn't bother approaching There are certain 'strategies' for 'hired guns', but that tends to mean like hot waitresses in hooters and stuff.
/r/seduction10/03/17 10:42 PM
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Have you not seen any of it yet?
/r/seduction10/03/17 10:40 PM
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In my case, I approach more girls than 90% of my friends, yet 90% of friends get laid a boat load more than me. It sucks, lol
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:02 PM
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Firstly, you are super young, so Don't worry too much. Personally, I come to this sub because I find there is VERY LITTLE in terms of bragging and success stories! Especially compared to some forums. When I read the Rooshv Forums, I feel like killing myself!! Loads of guys claiming to get laid about 4 nights per week from tinder and cold approaches with hot young college girls and the 'i just got laid' thread, where the same names post over and over and must have lay counts approaching 500!! Sim…
/r/seduction10/03/17 06:56 PM
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How old is Tom Torero? He uploaded a field Report about banging a 17 year old Polish virgin recently
/r/seduction10/03/17 06:53 PM
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Assuming attraction certainly makes sense when you're alredy dating someone! it's the idea of assuming attraction when you open someone that is the problem! (especially when you've had like 30 years of girls NOT being attracted to you! lol)
/r/seduction10/03/17 06:51 PM
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If you want to do it, do it! Who gives a shit what others think! If every girl you try to pull tells you that you're too old, then you kind of have yuor answer, but if you are able to get the young girls (despite other guys thinking it's creepy) then who cares! Seddit seems to have a fairly conservative view on matters of 'age' from what i've seen in various threads, wheras a pickup site like rooshv is very much ''If there's grass on the field, play ball!!'' kind of thing. In the UK, 16 is legal…
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:38 AM
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The 'just say 'hi' thing is kind of pointless advice in a way. I mean, Everyone knows that and it doesn't need to be said. When people ask for advice about how to open and get told 'just say 'hi'!, they realise that that isn't really what they wanted to know. They wanted to know how to start and actual conversation! So, what to say after the open! I think opening with hi, and then telling them they're cute is fine. But going for the number straight after that is likely not gonna work unless you …
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:30 AM
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Same.
/r/seduction09/03/17 02:00 PM
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the ''chatting politely'' thing is the big difference, really. I imagine lots of UK guys would think they were 'in' with the girl if they went to America, since they'd be so unused too a random girl being so friendly and being willing to chat that they'd mistake it for her definitely wanting the D! In the UK it's more considered odd to just strike up conversations with strangers in most environments. It's as if, rather than assuming you are just very friendly and social, their first instinct is …
/r/seduction08/03/17 09:21 PM
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Don't worry about other people, but I'd say there is a fairly drastic difference in terms of the kinds of reactions you get from girls here vs the US. It isn't really spoken about much. I'm astounded by lots of the friendly reactions US pickup guys seem to get. Girls actually wanting to take part in the conversation from the get-go etc. I think it's just considered more 'normal' over there to make conversation with strangers. It's a hell of a lot harder here - especially during daygame when the …
/r/seduction08/03/17 07:33 AM
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Mark Manson was a fairly handsome dude, so maybe going relly direct makes sense for him? I just feel that if a somewhat unattractive guy goes in direct, stating his intentions, he is making the girl choose without being able to build attraction and it likely won't end well. Personally, I experiment with both from time to time and possibly favour NOT going too direct with night game
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:38 AM
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We can never really know. A few PUA's (not just Tom Torero) have been caught out. My instincts are that they are legit (though we can ever really know). Richard in particular seems as charismatic as fuck, and he also has a very good looking face, so I can fairly easily believe his apparent success
/r/seduction05/03/17 09:17 PM
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It can make you feel like something is SERIOUSLY wrong with you, lol. I feel like crying when I watch the Jeremy Kyle show in the UK, and you often see what appears to be the biggest social recluse with zero charisma etc, and he's cheating on some half decent looking girl with her best friend, and i'm just like 'HOW!!!???'' I started a work trial this week and made friends with some guy. He is so nice and we were talking and stuff, and I soon realised he got laid a fair bit with younger girls, B…
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:44 PM
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people get hurt that way
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:36 PM
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Haven't got much to say, but I honestly know how you feel. I used to feel cursed to have so many good looking friends. SO many of them are just like male model looking (one of them actually WAS a model!) and girls would be checking them out all night and on some occasions, basically throwing themselves at them! Very depressing to be around them in a way and it makes it's worse when there's such gorgeous young girls around and you can kind of read their minds as they drool over my friends, lol!! …
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:47 AM
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It's super tough. I've made a couple of lame attempts on some cute girl who works behind the bar at a pub I drink at, but I never really know what to say. On one occasion I asked her about her bracelets and teased her about something and then asked her name, and then pretty much ran out of things to say. I didn't want to interrogate her (what do you do for fun?!!? How old are you?!!! etc etc) and she wasn't that talkative (bar girls in the UK are different to ones in the US since they don't care…
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:42 AM
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Personally, even when I feel like giving up, I tend to have that desire in me on the weekends come back when i'm around gorgeous young girls. They are never really interested in me, but I try anyway!# Not that i'm saying that I agree with your decision, and not that i'm saying that pussy doesn't matter (if I thought that, i'd give up, too) BUT in truth, lots of people who get a ton of pussy don't seem to be any happier than me! It's something that always surprises me. I'll be speaking to someone…
/r/seduction28/02/17 06:53 PM
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I ran a similar experiment some time ago. My reasoning was more to learn from other guys about how to open and things like that. I ended up learning very little in the way of 'tips' since most guys just say 'hey', 'how you going?' or 'You are so hot!!''. But yeah, I wasn't prepared for the onslaught of messages. Honestly quite staggering. I used a fairly average looking girl in the pic, swiped right on everyone, and i'm pretty sure I must have been 'matched' with about 98% of the guys, lol.
/r/seduction28/02/17 08:58 AM
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Dude. For starters, I hardly went on some mad depressed rant! I said ''Nooooooo!!! lol'' - I can't help it that it got so many upvotes. And they matched on tinder. You think a hot girl is gonna swipe right on a guy who isn't handsome? Lets not go full retard. And as for not putting in the work. I've written more Field Reports than any other current poster at a guess , lol. I'm certainly 'putting the work in' and have made hundreds and hundreds of approaches. Most people would have given up or be…
/r/seduction27/02/17 10:31 PM
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So I decided to approach her this one day. We vibed out and started flirting and everything. Purely for my own learning, how did the conversation go? (open, small talk, transition into 'flirting' / what was actually said, etc) As for the age, only you can answer that, really. If you think you'd feel bad and creepy after, then obviously don't do it. Do you think people at work (who would obviously find out about it) would judge you for it? For what it's worth, I know an ex male-model who is in hi…
/r/seduction27/02/17 02:22 PM
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I'm tall, and good looking Noooooooo!!!!! lol
/r/seduction26/02/17 11:22 PM
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And I guess to sum it up, the issue was basically 'esclation anxiety'! I think it's the classic thing of being afraid to 'burn a set' when you finally have a girl who seems to be somewhat interested! Afraid to risk the rejection. I guess I should have either went for the kiss, or maybe verbally stated my intent more than I did. It's like I was able to build attraction, then built some comfort, but after that, it kind of stalled. Another way to put it is, I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT SHE KNEW THAT I LI…
/r/seduction26/02/17 03:34 PM
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It kind of seem that club game (especially dancefloor game) is basically all about looks. Makes sense, I guess. It's all she has to go by at that point, really. I don't tend to see ugly guys who are able too approach a group of girls on the dancefloor without the girl kind of dismissing him and just turning her back to them. But handsome guys tend to be able to just do like a 'hand of God' type move and the girl will be receptive
/r/seduction26/02/17 12:00 PM
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true. But being as handsome is fuck is what makes him 'NOT boring, lol
/r/seduction25/02/17 01:25 AM
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It's just an old post from back in the day that I found whilst googling various phrases to do with my frustration at how it seems so hard to get success when cold approaching UK girls here in England! It kind of confirms lots of what I see with my own eyes - Namely, people in the UK seem to get laid with tinder (if you're handsome), or social circle game. Cold approach success seems to only happen with young people in university towns where the girls are almost in 'holiday mode' whilst they're a…
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:06 PM
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When you say he's unworthy, do you mean he's just getting the girls based on his looks and nothing else and so doesn't have to put any work in? Elaborate If so, that's life! It isn't fair. Suck it up. I have a German male model friend who is the most boring person in the world and has zero game, and he get's laid with the hottest girls at the click of his fingers. It sucks, but nothing good comes from jealousy. Have to try to accept some things and not get angry about it. Meditation could maybe …
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:50 PM
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TLDR: EXPECT COLD APPROACHES IN A UK CLUB TO BE JUST THAT… COLD… EVEN ON AVERAGE LOOKING GIRLS. As a general rule, girls in the UK have a much higher perceived sexual value. A British girl you would rate as a 7, is more than likely to have a bitch shield comparable to a 10 you might meet in America for example Average age of girls will be younger. For younger girls, garnering attraction VIA BUYING TEMPERATURE (USING TEASING AND HUMOUR), LEADERSHIP AND DOMINANCE, AND SOCIAL PROOF is more effectiv…
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:12 PM
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Ahhh...Uni bar! Wish I lived in a Uni town! I have no game, but even I had success when I used to go to my friends Uni's to visit them! Drunk young girls away from their parents at last, looking for 'adventure'! :) Are you 22?
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:39 PM
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Where were you gaming?> And you had sex with the 6? Is that in the infield? (I haven't watched it yet)
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:15 PM
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thing is though, if you ever watch infields of night game from most of the RSD guys, they all often kind of open with completely random stuff! (I guess in order to not appear boring and get an 'auto pilot' 'sorry not interested' response from teh girl) The last 2 JulianRSD infields I saw, he opened with ''I'm trying to find trolls!'' and something like ''I don't like your shoes!'' lol
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:14 PM
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Don't know what to tell you. I feel the same at this second in time, but I tend to find my balls again by teh weekend and carry on approaching! But i'm feeling low. I'm getting close to a year now since I first discovered pickup, and I go out a few nights per week and make maybe 15 approaches per night. I've had basically no joy. It's kind of soul destroying. Lots of fast rejections too, which make me feel like a gargoyle, lol. My friends get laid at work (I don't work with any girls) and with t…
/r/seduction21/02/17 10:00 PM
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man, I really wanna try mdma! Game in a pill!
/r/seduction21/02/17 11:39 AM
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upload it. Link me when you do, please
/r/seduction21/02/17 11:34 AM
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I'm only going by my personal experience of, I'd estimate 500 approaches or so, so far. Night game. The old 'just say hi' advice seem to be the worst for me. JeffyRSD also says that it's like the worst kind of opener as it just put the girl on 'auto pilot'. Most of my instant rejections AND my most boring sets (assuming they don't reject instantly) seem to stem from 'hey!', or 'Hi!' or ''hey, I'm Mike. What's up?' kind of thing. However, it seems to be a balancing act, because opening with a kin…
/r/seduction20/02/17 09:34 PM
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It might just be the girls. Kong from SimplePickup got lots of hostile girls after he opened who he couldn't 'turn' when he filmed a whole night of uncut approaches, and he's a pro and presumably his 'vibe' is perfect! It's just hot young girls are basically like celebrities nowadays what with social media etc. It's rough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOHuawIzEqs&index=8&list=LLKMgbcu5bCspbXERXhCdeYQ&t=948s
/r/seduction20/02/17 12:43 PM
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lots of people have strong opposing views, but i'm pretty sure you don't need some amazing life and an amazing job etc in order to get laid lots. I used to know so many stoners who never had a job who spent all day playing playstation, and some of them (the ones who were good looking and who have a bit of 'game') absolutely killed it with girls.
/r/seduction19/02/17 10:37 PM
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not trying to be negative It's cool . Don't worry 'age to go''? I'm not sure what that means, but if one believes in 'game', then I don't see why I shouldn't be able to get a teenager. I actually slept with a 19 year old that I picked up in a bar about 6 months ago for what it's worth
/r/seduction19/02/17 04:29 PM
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I want to hang out with you for a week so that you can tell me what is good about me, because i've never known the answer!! lol
/r/seduction19/02/17 10:50 AM
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''Jamaican me hard, girl!!''
/r/seduction12/02/17 10:09 PM
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I notice that if I open by being like ''hi'' and then asking her name and the other usual stuff, it's very often a slightly awkward, boring conversation UNLESS she happens to be a very fun social girl. Only way I am able to have a 'fun' interaction is if I open in a weird way, such as pretending to be her blind date or something. BUT, I really don't like having to use weird kind of 'routines' like that. I don't want to be known as the 'blind date guy' who always approaches girls by pretending to…
/r/seduction12/02/17 04:16 PM
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I had a bit of a porn scenario once with a girl I just met who was very sexually forward. I was very young so it actually did intimidate me a bit, but it was also a massive turn on. She was older. (Me like 18, her around 30, but she was pretty) She basically 'kino'd' me and was tugging at me and touching me lots.. Biting her lip and looking at me in the eyes. She sat on a table in front of me as I was standing talking too her (submissive behaviour?). Playing with her hair. hitching up her skirt …
/r/seduction12/02/17 03:44 PM
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thanks. Not many people tend to actually expand on their answers so I appreciate the effort. Last night was the first night in ages when I failed to even make an approach. Been beaten down by too much failure that I kind of though ''AHHHH.....What's the fucking point!!?''. Need to fix my head, lol
/r/seduction12/02/17 03:36 PM
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Have a canned routine and try to stick with it What's your 'go to' routine after you open a girl during night game?
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:46 PM
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YOu mean bang 3-5 hookers as opposed to only 1? Anyway, It's actually something I think about, too. I'm not a virgin, but I am close to being one, and Im' old! I sometimes think ''the chances of me being able to pull some hot 18 year old must be close to zero, so at some point does one just say 'screw it' and start banging the hottest hookers!!? No rejection. Just a few quid!'' Could be tempting at some point
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:51 AM
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Slim/athletic. I work out but i'm not some ripped up guy. I dress well. I wouldn't say i'm 'good looking' though (facially). Im' also kinda short I only approach in bars and clubs, aswell. I'm in the UK. People don't seem to get laid from cold approach here from what I see. It's tinder or social circle unless the guy is super handsome. That's just what I've seen Are you in the US?
/r/seduction08/02/17 11:14 AM
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I've already kind of played around with all kinds of different things. Funny openers, normal openers, kinoing straight away, kinoing later, smiling lots, being more serious, being more aloof, being more direct/clear in my intentions, a more high energy vibe, a more relaxed vibe etc etc. Who knows what the 'secret sauce' is, lol
/r/seduction07/02/17 10:24 PM
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Thanks. I do like your examples of adapting your approach if you are able to pick up on things like possible insecurity/low self esteem in the girl. It sounds hard, and it is hard at first, but with time you will get the hang of it I'm just aware of the ticking clock! I'm pushing 30 and have never had much success with girls. Hair is also starting to thin, and i'm very aware that i'm getting older.I have a real sense that my luck may have ran out and that there's a distinct possibility that I mi…
/r/seduction07/02/17 12:48 PM
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It won't be. Honestly you sound SO freaking close Thanks! It certainly doesn't feel like that. I mean, I have had one of two very positive interactions since 'learning game', Maybe 6 makeouts and one lay, but there's been HUNDREDS upon hundreds of rejections. Some very fast ones. Some where it all just fizzles out and I unable to reach a kind of 'hook point'. After a 'bad' night the other night (where I found out the girl told someone that she stopped talking to me because I 'bored her' by askin…
/r/seduction07/02/17 12:37 PM
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True. But I never now why I done bad or good (better) in an interaction. It seems to be 100% reliant on the girl as opposed to me. I could open in a certain way with a certain body language with a certain opener and it leads to a positive interaction. I could do EXACTLY the same with a different girl 10 minutes later, and she is looking at me like I just killed her hamster. Sometimes I might think that I've learnt something - maybe a subtle change in my vibe as I approach or whatever after a goo…
/r/seduction07/02/17 10:13 AM
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Also, don't make assumptions about her. If you're right it was just a lucky guess. If you're wrong, it drives home that you don't know her. Ask her questions about herself You're certainly the first person to say that. 'Make assumptions, don't ask questions' seems to be very common advice here! To be honest, I always found it to be a slightly strange thing to do (unless something about her means that you're very likely to be correct and so it seems like a natural way to phrase the statement), bu…
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:34 AM
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I found that initially my skin started to feel thicker after rejection as I became more used too it, but at a certain point (maybe after say 3 months of approaching with either outright rejections or interactions that fizzled out due to the girl not being interested) that it's started to actually hit my self esteem and I feel like a gargoyle, lol. I'm not sure how healthy constant rejection really is! I'm close to a year of it now! lol
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:14 AM
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You were just talking? Like, you didn't try to kino her - no unwanted physical advances?
/r/seduction06/02/17 03:34 PM
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Thanks. I'm always pleased when I get a reply to one of my field reports, especially when its from you or a handful of other posters. I do worry that i'll still be here in a decade though, still failing to get laid! A simple observation would have been better than interrogation. Typically, in these situations, in the sorts of bars I frequent, I there's not much in the actual environment to comment on, so I guess that leaves things about her/her fashion?/her drink? What sort of observations shoul…
/r/seduction06/02/17 12:56 PM
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I like to think i'm somewhat of connoisseur when it comes to cologne. I have about 40 bottles going at the moment! Complete overkill, but I think i'm addicted! I tend to like Armani Code, 212, Hugo Boss 'orange', Ted Baker skinwear and Dior 'Sauvage' at the mo The most recent compliments I have had from girls on how I smell though was actually from CKbe. It's fairly cheap, too! 2 girls said to me ''How do you smell so good!''
/r/seduction05/02/17 09:28 PM
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Next I saw a girl I who I actually briefly mentioned in one of my previous FR's. Someone who rejected me a different time :) I spotted her and I could tell that she didn't recognise me (it was some months ago) so I though 'fuck it' and tried again! I opened her by saying ''You look like you're from (xxx part of town)'' (I remembered from out previous interaction) She was like ''Yeah!! How'd you know?''. I said ''It's written all over your face. It's a gift I have'' Then we started talking a litt…
/r/seduction05/02/17 09:18 PM
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Only cold approach. i'm on tinder, but I don't get matches. Social circle is just other single guys who are as uuseless as me. Despite 'game' girls just aren't into me
/r/seduction05/02/17 02:35 AM
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How? What does one do? Sometimes i'll open a girl (the type of open doesn't seem to matter, by the way. It could be super friendly, indirect, direct, a comment on something around us, an observation, a compliment, a question etc etc), but she might just ignore me, or put her hand In my face and say 'not intetested' or something like that. Usually super super hot young, club girls, but not always I can never change their mind. I've tried just ploughing on/stacking openers, and I've tried calling …
/r/seduction04/02/17 10:37 AM
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Wut? When I say 'I never get laid' I mean more 'I hardly ever get laid', as in - I might get laid once every 4 years or so as opposed to being a virgin. How tall are you? About 5'6" - 5'7" or so, I think.
/r/seduction03/02/17 09:19 PM
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You're doing a lot better than me! I've never had a relationship and i'm approaching 30. I 'learnt game' about18 months ago and still haven't really had any results. I've thought about giving up twice in that time, but tend to always carry on approaching once i'm out! It just doesn't seem to work for some of us but i'll probably never truly give up. You shouldn't either. I might break a record for number of approaches with no results though, so maybe i'll get in the Guinness world record books i…
/r/seduction02/02/17 10:47 PM
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This guy gets laid!....I mean, restraining orders! - This guy gets restraining orders!
/r/seduction02/02/17 08:46 PM
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Just being around girls on holiday/travelling must make it so so so much easier to get laid. My friend is a holiday rep. Now, I concede that he IS very good looking, but he's banged close to 400 girls in the last 3-4 years. He is constantly around drunk, teenage girls. I'd love to go travelling in hostels for the sole purpose of trying to hook up with girls whose inhibitions are completely down due to the holiday/travelling/new experiences mindset they are all in. Expensive though, and I think i…
/r/seduction02/02/17 06:15 PM
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shoving coworkers into a corner to make out sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon with HR haha! Made me chuckle
/r/seduction02/02/17 02:08 PM
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I just thought maybe he means some sort of plastic surgery or something, which is something I think about quite a lot. I already have a good body, but I don't get 'checked out' Good luck
/r/seduction02/02/17 02:07 PM
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How did you improve your appearance so much to the point that hot girls now check you out? I take it we're not talking plastic surgery or anything like that? If she thinks you are physically attractive, then I guess you have a shot with her Good luck
/r/seduction02/02/17 10:23 AM
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Seems to be full of women hating fantasists! I prefer the vibe here much much more and my bullshit-detector isn't set off every 4 minutes on this sub. (''I'm currently spinning 5 plates, all HB 9's. If one steps out of line, she's gone!!'' bla bla bla type of thing). I simply don't believe so many posts I read on there, lol. Seems to be a weird, competitive, angry , hostile atmosphere. But I do agree that there is way too many super young people on this sub who should be posting on the 'high sch…
/r/seduction01/02/17 05:11 PM
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I wish I had that sort of problem! I'm assuming he's handsome as hell? I have a few good looking friends who have slept with even more women that that! (One of them by quite some distance in fact(!), although he is legit male model material and had 'perfect' logistics for a few years) None of them are 'unhappy', but I would say that I guess it's natural that if you can get sex so easily, it stops 'making' you happy? I got laid about 6 months ago and I felt like a King for about a whole week or t…
/r/seduction01/02/17 04:51 PM
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how do you typically open during night game, out of interest? I almost think it doesn't matter since from my experience, how your opener is received is directly correlated to how interested she is in you before you've even opened your mouth (basically your looks) If she looks at you and thinks ''Yuk! He is so NOT my type'' then no matter how you open, you'll likely get an instant ''Sorry. I'm not interested. Have a good night''. If she thinks you're the hottest guy in the club, you could open wi…
/r/seduction29/01/17 07:40 PM
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my parents would find it absurd if I told them this hehe. If my dad knew how unsuccessful I was with girls, he'd be mortified! Luckily, everytime I don't come home, he assumes I got laid, and everytime I go on holiday he assumes i'm sleeping with a new girl most nights! I don't correct him!
/r/seduction29/01/17 12:05 PM
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Unless you open with something outright offensive, then it's always 'her fault', really. Most guys will just open by asking how their night is going, or open with something observational ''What drink is that??'', or open with a compliment ''Hey. I like your jacket!'' etc, so I'm sure the people who are getting rejected at the open are doing nothing wrong. Just that a fair amount of girls only want a certain type of guy too approach them on nights out (one who they know all the other girls in the…
/r/seduction29/01/17 11:10 AM
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The question "How's your night going?" as an opener is a weak, generic opener Don't forget one of the main seddit philosophies: ''It doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it'', so that opener is fine. (not to mention that the most successful player on rooshv forum uses that opener as his staple opener, apparently)
/r/seduction29/01/17 10:10 AM
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did you find the answer to this question?!!
/r/seduction28/01/17 11:12 PM
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If this is what you believe than it is exactly what you will get Not really. I mean, are you honestly saying that you don't think that some girls are very superficial and won't give you a shot if you don't match the image in her head of 'a handsome guy'? It's not about a 'belief'. More of a fact I really think you could make a few girls change their minds man. Challenge yourself to change their minds How? Next time I smile at a girl and ask her a question/make a statement/pay her a compliment/us…
/r/seduction28/01/17 11:07 PM
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Is it possible to win a girl over after she says she's not interested? Yeah totally How? I experience this sort of instant rejection from super hot girls in bars etc aswell. What should I say after they say ''Go away''. or ''i'm not interested, Sorry'' etc? But if you are consistently getting bad responses on the initial open, you should probably work on that. What percentage is 'consistently'? If 60% of the girls are at least friendly after you open (and probably softly reject you after a few m…
/r/seduction28/01/17 08:50 PM
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I think I see where you're coming from re. mindset, but how would someone who has never had the slightest bit of interest from girls when trying to pull an attractive one develop this ''I can pull any girl because i'm a 10 (even though nobody else seems to realise i'm a 10)'' mindset? What steps would someone need to take in order to suddenly make them think ''Despite getting rejected everytime so far in my life, I am a 10 and I can pull any girl I want'' How to achieve this 'vibe'? This confide…
/r/seduction18/01/17 05:50 PM
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the problem is that this 'confidence' you speak of (the kind that makes you feel you can pull any girl you want) can only come from pulling hot girls! Kind of a catch 22. Positive reference experience! You can't magic up that confidence any other way. It's delusional. People advise you to get lots of hobbies and learn an instrument and work out more and get a better job etc (inner game), but none of that gives you true confidence in terms of pulling some hot girl. I mean, why would it? They're n…
/r/seduction18/01/17 05:27 PM
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it doesn't matter what you say. You're good
/r/seduction18/01/17 08:30 AM
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But if you can say anything, does that mean that you don't have to worry about teasing, or 'push pull', or 'interview mode', 'agreeing and amplifying' with 'shit test', verbally flirting etc?As long as we are internally 'happy and confident' then we can just say whatever and there are zero rules? I feel like going back and scolding the people who told me that I 'bored the girls to death' in my field reports a few months back :) - explaining to them that they can't know that from my report since …
/r/seduction18/01/17 08:19 AM
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yep. Lots of good field reports get very little in the way of tangible advice. It's always so generic. I think the community has got carried away with the 'what you say doesn't matter' philosophy which does kind of render FR's useless IF (and only if)you actually believe that.
/r/seduction05/01/17 08:08 PM
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Aloof game doesn't seem to work for me at all! I think it's only a game that you can play if you are very handsome or if the girl is heavily into you from the start. Pleased it worked out for ya, though!
/r/seduction01/01/17 04:26 PM
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OK, new memories are creeping in. Nothing much to write about, but I like to 'put it all out there' so that I can refer back to it. I made an approach on a gorgeous gorgeous girl who was sitting down as I came back from teh rest room. She seemed to be in a group, but isolate - on the outskirts. She yawned. I approached her and asked if she was bored. She smiled but didn't really reply. There were a couple of guys in the group and I felt them looking at me. I nearly got attacked for merely talkin…
/r/seduction01/01/17 11:49 AM
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Just woke up. Don't fully remember writing that Field Report! Surely I deserve SOMETHING for writing that at 3am....perhaps a short spell in a mental institution. Going over it all in my head now. I'm finding myself thinking about the rejections as opposed to the 'successes'. Working out if I done anything 'wrong' that I can actually learn from, or whether it was just a matter of the girls who rejected me wouldn't have been receptive to me no matter what my approach. 'No girls' as Mark Manson mi…
/r/seduction01/01/17 11:03 AM
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so in that video, his most 'brave' touch was a brief touch to her stomach with the back of his hand. But is that 'enough' of a 'test' to go for the kiss? (i.e - "she didn't react negatively when I brushed her stomach, so I can go for the kiss now!") Or would one need to be trying to play with her hair and touch her neck or maybe grab her by the hips and pull her into you in order to really test the waters?
/r/seduction21/12/16 09:52 PM
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really? He doesn't seem fast AT ALL to me! Maybe it's 'cos i'm British. Lots of us speak fast as fuck!
/r/seduction15/12/16 01:30 PM
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I get the same thing with night game. Non stop rejections, lol! It certainly can sting! I kind of find it almost unbelievable that people can apparently get regular sex with 'cold approach'. Sometimes I think it's mainly to do with LOCATION and obviously LOOKS. If you live in a country where approaching strangers is considered a bit weird, AND you aren't really handsome, I think it's a bit of a lottery win to get laid from it. But if you are like on holiday in Cancun and everyone is in a super s…
/r/seduction15/12/16 12:43 PM
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Might not be that they're 'bad' friends as such. Lots of peoples basic social skills have gone to shit over recent years, i'm certain of it! The idea of 'introducing people too each other' might not have crossed their minds! Probably to do with non-stop texting/snapchatting and stuff, lol
/r/seduction14/12/16 08:01 PM
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You can skip steps some times, but never go “sexual” without some kind of consent. IE don’t grab her by the pussy/ass/boobs without proper acknowledgment. So, my question is; what would you describe as “when you try something more sexual”? Nothing as forward as that! Like I said, touching their leg, maybe grabbing their hips etc.
/r/seduction13/12/16 03:53 PM
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But this happens with girls that i've only known for 30 mins. Are you suggesting they've aleady 'friendzoned' me at this point? If so, am I supposed to use sexual kino even earlier on? like touch their legs and hip in the first 5 mins? Would feel a but odd doing that in a quiet pub, i think
/r/seduction13/12/16 03:51 PM
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Of the successes you have had, how did they play out? From that, do you have an idea of what a "successful interaction" looks like from start to finish? I've only had 1 true success from cold approach in my whole life. Luck was on my side since she was very young and pretty drunk. I opened her in a funny way which made her laugh and play along. Made small talk. Told her she was hot about 20 minutes in. Seeded the pull by mentioning a hot tub at the place I was staying. Told her I was leaving now…
/r/seduction13/12/16 11:41 AM
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They're still women, no? And since you know 'how women work', I imagine it should be easy enough? How do you think women work, anyway? What's your findings? Is it anything that hasn't already been written about lots and lots in the Pickup world?
/r/seduction12/12/16 06:57 PM
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I was in a similar situation to this once and it still haunts me to this day. The annoying thing is that even now after learning so much, im' still not sure what i'd have done in order to 'succeed'. This girl was the hottest girl in my town. Every guy was obsessed with her. My best friend is handsome as hell, and she liked him. One night all 3 of us somehow ended up at my place and my parents were away and we'd had a hot tub and a few drinks. We went upstairs and we were just sat on the bed. The…
/r/seduction12/12/16 11:02 AM
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''Is your goal to have an endless conversation? Or move towards sex?'' the latter. ''What are you doing to bring yourself closer to that goal?'' All of the things that i've read i'm supposed to be doing. (teasing, kino, isolate etc) ''What do you think your sticking points are?'' Being able to keep a girls interest long enough to build some sort of comfort so that I can use more kino etc and show my intent. Being unable to think of a good opener on the spot. If I have nothing 'planned/scripted' …
/r/seduction11/12/16 11:32 PM
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film an infield of one of your dates! We can learn from you (although I haven't had a match in months, but whatever!)
/r/seduction25/11/16 04:47 PM
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Disappointed to see that you're actually quite good looking!! :( Had a feeling that would be the case, thoguh - lol However, would still be interested in your advice in the 'constant sexual vibe'. Like what do you talk about? What sort of things do you say? I suck on dates.
/r/seduction25/11/16 04:26 PM
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haha, true. People always say 'have a good photo. Rockclibing etc. NO SELFIES!!'', but the handsome guys always break the 'no selfies' rule and swim in pussy! lol
/r/seduction25/11/16 04:21 PM
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you come off a bit creepy no offence, just the feeling I got from reading your post. Also I'd just like to add if your Intent is super clear from the start they won't be creeped out if you ask for their number, tell them they are cute,kino cause you intent was clear from the start so it makes sense that you are making these advances. No offence taken. Trust me! :) I get what you mean about how making your intentions clear from the beginning means that kino/compliments etc come off as 'expected' …
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:03 AM
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Hi. I've actually read models. I know that he says it's good to show vulnerability and literally tell them that you think they are hot or whatever, but he seems to be just about the only person I've read who encourages that behaviour. Who's to say that he's right? Seddit seems to be very much against verbalising intent and telling them you think they're hot. And so, with certain FR's in the past, I actually have told girls that I think they're cute or whatever, but then when I eventually get rej…
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:09 PM
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lol, I wish I was fearless!
/r/seduction19/11/16 11:04 PM
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I guess there's always a big debate about direct vs indirect. Recently, most of what I read seems to suggest that 'indirect' is bad/wrong and shows a lack of confidence and that you are hiding your intentions etc. I kind of think that maybe it's about changing your opening style depending on the situation. ps- are you saying one is more likely to have a 'meaningful relationship' of they open indirectly? (besides, I suppose in general the idea is to get laid and that's it, and if these youtube gu…
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:11 PM
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Does that mean you would never approach using a direct opener, such as most youtube pickup guys?
/r/seduction18/11/16 01:10 PM
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Yeah, my first instinct was that it was something to do with tipping culture, and also that I imagine employers are more 'picky' with who they employ for such jobs - but in the UK, anyone can get a bar job, even in a decent club. It doesn't impress anyone! My bartender friends get annoyed when I tell them they'd have girls throwing themselves at them if they were in America! :)
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:27 PM
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You're thinking of kino as step 1,2,3 ect. Like it's a test or something I didn't invent this, though. It's from DiCarlo escalation ladder which is referenced here on seddit a fair bit and is in the sidebar.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:00 PM
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I almost have a 100% success rate of fucking any girl that I meet in person. TEACH US ALL!!! :)
/r/seduction11/11/16 05:23 PM
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But social circle game appears to be like 10x easier if you go by most peoples stories. It seems that Most people get laid through social circle and certainly NOT cold approach. Lots of people rely on social circle since they say the odds of success are infinitely better than cold approach. So do the 'rules of game' change with people you know? Things like kino go out of the window for example? And if so, what is the best way to go about it? How do all of the people who are regularly sleeping wi…
/r/seduction11/11/16 04:36 PM
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Slightly off topic, but what's with the thing about getting laid as a bartender? Is that just a US thing? Why are bar tenders seen as 'high value' in the US?? I always read about this from American people. In the UK, being a bartender means absolutely nothing! - -even at some really trendy club. If anything, people see you as slightly 'below' them if you are serving them drinks! Obviously if you are a super good looking bar tender, then girls will flirt and give you their numbers etc, but it's n…
/r/seduction11/11/16 12:04 PM
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I was thinking about this earlier - Do you need to adapt your game for different types of girls? There's a hot girl who I know who comes from a broken home and her dad left and stuff, and I wonder how best to 'game' her in light of them facts. People say to just be super nice to her and show loads of affection and compliments etc, BUT the guys I see banging her are just classic 'bad boys' who I assume don't treat her very well. Although I guess, for all I know, they GOT HER by being the super ni…
/r/seduction10/11/16 09:17 PM
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People often say that 1st time sex with a new partner is generally pretty average at best? (Since it takes time to know what each other likes etc, I guess) I think You might be able to take one girl to paradise, and then bang a new girl in the exact same way and she is not really into it. PS - I think every guy in the world thinks he's great in bed. I'm not really sure what makes a guy good in bed other than being able to last a long time and having a good sized unit! Oh, and oral skills. But in…
/r/seduction10/11/16 09:13 PM
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thanks. I won't lie - despite your warnings, I still am interested in the darker side IF it will improve results as i'm just getting nowhere with it all so far. It's getting frustrating that I can't seem to build any attraction in general. Main differences I can see from MysteryMethod type stuff after a few minutes of research is the use of routines and 'negging' (which is the only thing I can find 'so far' which could be called immoral) I'll dig deeper. thanks
/r/seduction08/11/16 07:39 PM
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what sort of conversations do you start with on dates and stuff? I keep having boring job interview dates and not sure how to fix it.
/r/seduction08/11/16 07:26 PM
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Seddit is mainly about inner game - You probably won't get the sort of answer I think you want here.
/r/seduction08/11/16 06:45 PM
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yes. I mean, does the guilt come from the knowledge that when yuo are 'gaming', you are, in effect pretending to be a confident man!? (in it's simplest form) If so, I can kind of understand that. But when reading the thread earlier, the writing just made it sound like their 'game' was some sort of black magic which enables them to get any girl they want into bed! And if that's the case - I don't care how manipulative the techniques are....In want in!!!!
/r/seduction08/11/16 03:42 PM
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I kind of think this would be a good thing to do in the day time to get a number, but I think at night game, approaching a girl and saying you think she is cute and then speaking to her kind of makes me feel a power shift in her favour, putting you at a disadvantage, and at worse just making her feel a bit awkward and unsure of how to respond
/r/seduction08/11/16 03:40 PM
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Actually telling them that yo think they are hot seems to be bad practice from what i've read on here. Having said that, just about every pua on youtube seems to do it, and most of them get good results, so I don't know, really...
/r/seduction08/11/16 11:38 AM
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''"Excuse me, I know this is kind of random but I think you're cute and wanted to meet you." Wouldn't that be against most seddit advice?
/r/seduction08/11/16 10:54 AM
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She's probably on the Female seddit sub frantically typing away! ''What do you say after the open!!!?''
/r/seduction05/11/16 10:53 PM
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But how does that conflict with things like strong, flirty eye contact which basically says ''I wanna bang you''. Is That not 'showing the girl that you are interested'?
/r/seduction04/11/16 10:02 PM
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what does it look like when you hook up abroad since you find it so easy abroad? Give a description of one of the pulls
/r/seduction04/11/16 02:21 PM
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haha - even people who are good probably only get laid in like 1 in every 80 approaches or something.
/r/seduction02/11/16 11:37 PM
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I'm way too old for clubs and hadn't been in years, but I went to a few recently, and both 2 times i've been, i've made out with a few girls. Problem is that it doesn't lead to anything more. Girls just go around kissing people! My only ever saame-night-lay, I didn't even kiss her at all until she was basically at my front door! (obviously my sample is almost non existant to draw any sort of conclusion from that. Maybe those with some success under their belt can chip in!) As for the kissing, th…
/r/seduction02/11/16 11:20 PM
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Errr......i'm assuming it was sarcasm!? I don't think the OP really expected the girl to pay for both of them!
/r/seduction17/10/16 09:42 PM
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I'm doing you a favor right now, not ever sure why I care It's good that you care :) I'm not trying to fight you here. I like a lot of what you say, but i'm just trying to get my head around it better. I'm not the smartest guy! What I said before about people I know who have lots of success and confidence in general but who suck with girls was true. I promise I didn't just make it up. One of them design electrical networks and makes big bucks. The other is head of a large accountancy firm. What …
/r/seduction17/10/16 09:06 PM
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It should be pretty obvious that women are going to find a guy who regularly plays football with friends more attractive than someone who stays inside playing video games all the time. Well I guess that's good news for me, because I play a hell of a lot of sport. Hasn't helped me attract girls yet, but maybe one day When you are confident that you are living a fully satisfying life that you are proud of, that impacts every part of your life. There is no separate "confidence with women" that is f…
/r/seduction17/10/16 08:16 PM
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I'm off out to play football tonight. Does that make me a more attractive person that if I stayed in and played battlefield? No trying to be funny, but i'm not sure what you mean in your last paragraph. You're saying that 'doing things that you enjoy' makes you attractive? I'd assume most people are already doing things they enjoy, though? Just doesn't help them get laid at all
/r/seduction17/10/16 05:15 PM
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OK, but to be honest, your definition seems to be very different from what I read almost everywhere else (i.e - a direct open is basically telling a girl she is hot and that's why approached her)
/r/seduction17/10/16 05:13 PM
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Am I right In thinking that you are very much against opening girls in a direct way?
/r/seduction17/10/16 04:34 PM
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so be good looking and rich? :)
/r/seduction17/10/16 04:24 PM
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I'm not entirely sure that's true to be honest. I know everyone is petrified of getting friend zoned, but I have a number of mates who have hooked up with their work colleagues, and seemed to do it in a very slow way. Almost just becoming friends first, and then over time getting more flirty etc. (basically what you're apparently NOT supposed to do, but it worked for a number of people I know) I sometimes think that guys who are 'friend zoned' simply never stood a chance with that girl (for what…
/r/seduction17/10/16 08:13 AM
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Brits don't speak to strangers in the same way Americans do. I've spent a fair bit of time in various parts of the US as I have family there, and the difference is night and day!! Do some googling and you'll find lots of posts/articles etc First few I found. Don't know if they're any good and haven't read them: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/3lppkf/if_british_people_dont_like_talking_to_strangers/ http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2429350 In some parts of the …
/r/seduction17/10/16 07:47 AM
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I think it depends on your location. In the US I imagine day game could work very well, especially since there's such a strong dating culture there. You could get lots of numbers, and then dates that lead to sex In the UK, daygame can work, but only really on Foreign girls in places like London where there's lots of tourists who aren't freaked out by being approached by a stranger like Brit girls are.
/r/seduction16/10/16 09:46 PM
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I personally hate it, because for some reason, I find it less embarrassing to get constantly rejected in front of my guy friends, than I do in front of girls that I know (usually my guy mates girlfriends). Maybe it's because I don't think girls understand how hard it is, whersas my guy friends probably know full well, having likely been rejected hundreds of times!! When I was younger, I used to sometimes go drinking with my brothers wife, and she'd be like ''them girls are pretty over there. If …
/r/seduction16/10/16 05:41 PM
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what are you actually nervous about? I don't really have approach anxiety in the traditional sense. I mean, I don't really fear 'rejection' as such. It doesn't really bother me. If 'rejection' always meant a girl saying to me ''Sorry, don't waste your time, you're ugly' after I said 'hi', i'd be OK with that. I think any apprehension I have about approaching comes from my lack of conversational skills (with strangers) which don't seem to improve with practice, and then I naturally have an awkwar…
/r/seduction16/10/16 03:53 PM
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my approach is to create attraction within the first seconds of every interaction. How? I think everyone wants the things you mention (having a beautiful girls smiling at you, looking deep in your eyes etc) but often, despite out best efforts, the girl isn't remotely interested. Do you crack some sort of joke after opening or something for example?
/r/seduction15/10/16 06:14 PM
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I think it just makes it so much easier in general. You can approach a hot girl in a bar, and she'll just reject you in a second, but if you match with her on tinder, you can easily set up a date or maybe even just go straight round to her place (or yours) for sex. About 95% of the people I know only get laid through 'online game'. I guess girls see 'cold approach' as weird, but they see tinder as being normal
/r/seduction15/10/16 04:11 PM
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tinder really seems to be 'where it's at' nowadays.
/r/seduction15/10/16 03:29 PM
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Which books did you read and how much girls did you interact with in these 8 months? In my first 6 months, I did 250 approaches which resulted in 1 makeout and 1 one-night-stand Bang, magic bullets, the game, book of pook, 60 years of challenge. My numbers are kind of similar to yours. I've done about 250 approaches and got 1 one-night-stand. However, that one night stand was so lucky. She was drunk and on a serious 'rebound' having just got dumped by her boyfriend. But other than that lay, I've…
/r/seduction15/10/16 11:14 AM
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shit. I always assumed it stood for 'Invisible Obesity Infection' and that she was somehow able to turn me into a really fat guy using her girly powers, and so everytime someone told me ''Dude, she's giving you IOI'' I'd just eject the hell out of there, double-time! Missed opportunities, in hindsight....
/r/seduction15/10/16 10:28 AM
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How long did it take you to actually feel/notice you were getting better? I've been at this for about maybe 8 months and really don't feel much better at 'pickup' than before I ever read a book. Certainly my results would confirm that! Do you do night game as well? If so, what part of Europe are you in? (i'm struggling big time to game UK girls at night) When you say you no longer ask yourself 'why that happened' etc, do you you mean you always know why a girl rejected you for example? You know …
/r/seduction15/10/16 08:50 AM
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I could have written a lot of this! I feel like a virgin (even though i'm not one) I'm confident in social situations and could be called extroverted, but I clam up around hot girls. Pretty much all of my friends have had lots and lots and LOTS of sex. Pretty much always through tinder or work or social circle. The jealousy hurts! And like you, I actually approach random girls which often feels like a waste of time (since I know nobody who gets laid through cold approach) and despite my efforts …
/r/seduction14/10/16 01:54 PM
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The rent is so expensive where I live that a fair few people in their late 20's still live at home. If I got my own place, I literally wouldn't have a spare penny to enjoy myself so not much point, really. I am crap with girls, but when I've got lucky in the past, I've just brought them back and late at night and got them a cab early in the morning to avoid any awkwardness with the parents. Not that they care one little bit, but I do, lol!
/r/seduction13/10/16 10:23 PM
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I'm in the UK. To be honest, even with my exceptionally good looking friends it almost never happens in 'bars' and pubs, but if one of them goes to a nightclub, then he is SWAMPED in hot girls basically fighting over him! I can honestly think of a number of times he had about 6 girls all rubbing him ad grinding up on him at the same time when he was just 'dad dancing' by himself on a quiet part of the dance floor! He then went on to bang a girl in his car about 60 seconds after meeting a girl ou…
/r/seduction13/10/16 06:46 PM
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Interesting that you notice that. Funny thing is that most of my interactions are a MUCH bigger 'uphill battle' than that!! I've been literally ignored after smiling and saying 'hey!' a number of times. I think it's partly just a UK thing. Especially in the South where I live (Northern UK people are MUCH friendlier with strangers) As you could tell, they were so surprised to be approached by a stranger that they thought it was a fucking dare! I don't think that wold happen in the US. I think par…
/r/seduction13/10/16 06:33 PM
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anyone know if it's possible to get adderal in the UK? I'd love to try it.
/r/seduction04/10/16 07:43 AM
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so you're saying I need to carry on down the same threads for longer. I could do this, but I just get the impression that it will bore the ass off of them - pushing subjects which they showed no interest in. I guess i'm changing threads to see if I can see a spark of excitement in the topic that I bring up, and THEN I will look to continue that thread for longer. Like, in the example above, I feel as though if I had have started asking her what music she likes etc, she would still have not been …
/r/seduction03/10/16 08:04 PM
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Can you give an example what you mean by a "situational oppener," along with what you mean by "assumptions" or the kinds of "questions" you follow your opener with? (Barman is juggling bottles in the air near us) me: I give it about 6 seconds until the floor is covered in glass her: haha. I was thinking the same thing. me: So who are you here with tonight? her: My friends over there points me: Looks like they're having fun! Where are you off too tonight? her: Xbar probably. me: Ahh...I like it t…
/r/seduction03/10/16 07:15 PM
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do you mean I am like ''So, who are you here with'', but my body language etc is saying ''I wanna bang you!'' ?? if so, two things: 1/ Even though i'm not doing that on purpose, isn't that what one is supposed to do? Lots of people here say, 'it's not what you say, but how you say it!' (in regards to showing intent) 2/ If I lower my effort/emotion, wouldn't that just make the interaction even more boring? Low energy + 'so, who are you here with' screams 'boring guy', no?
/r/seduction03/10/16 06:53 PM
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Why would you even want to spend time gaming a girl who isn't enthusiastic about it from the get go? Well that's a new way of looking at it, but it kind of makes 'game' seem redundant? That sounds more like the goodlookingloser theory and they basically don't believe in game. In general, game states that you should expect girls to be slightly off/hostile towards you at first on a cold approach, no?? If a girl is really into you straight away, you don't need 'game', do you? I got laid a little wh…
/r/seduction03/10/16 05:58 PM
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Does 'game' even apply to tinder bangs? I know lots of people who just meet girls on tinder in hotel rooms by just basically suggesting it in their 'opener' and then the dtf ones agree, and then they barely say 'hello' upon meeting and then get down to the sex
/r/seduction03/10/16 04:29 PM
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If this is the reason you think it is, then give them the reason. It's just a possible reason that came to me earlier. however, I think more likely is that i'm boring them, but i'm not sure what to talk about after the opener in order to make them laugh etc, so I tend to ask the 'typical' questions that most people do (or make assumptions about her) But it doesn't seem to work - . I mean, it 'works' on girls who seem into me straight away (based on looks I guess) but I hoped that the point of 'g…
/r/seduction03/10/16 02:58 PM
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there is an interesting contrast in peoples definition of 'game' in general, from what I read. I belong to a number of forums and notice this. Some people see to think that 'game' is some sort of black magic. People say ''man, just learn game!''. Always makes me cringe when I read that for some reason. I think it's because they make 'game' sound complicated, but then if you read a game/pickup book like magic bullets or 'bang', and really get rid of all of the fluff, 'game' could be learnt by a 9…
/r/seduction19/09/16 10:42 PM
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Firstly, i don't tihnk the make out with the girl was 'great' lol. I said myself that anybody could have done it! Saying 'if you knew game you would have got both the set'' makes me think that you think that 'game' can get you any girl in the world no matter what you look like, as if it's some sort of magic. I've read 5 'game' books now, so I guess I could claim to 'know game' THe shit test from the girl in the jeans ; yeah, the shit test formula is to 'agree and amplify' so I guess I could have…
/r/seduction19/09/16 01:46 PM
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It's tough. People always say ''It's easy! What would you say to your friends? What do you and your friends talk about?!'' but, when I see my friends, I talk to them about mutual friends we have, and I bring up things we've done in the past adn laugh about our shared memories etc. Ask about their family. Obviously me and a stranger don't have lots of shared funny memories and mutual friends When i approach a girl in a bar, I ask what they are doing that night/where they are going, their name, an…
/r/seduction19/09/16 01:30 PM
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It can be hard to know what to think. Sometimes I'll watch an infield video, and the guy will not qualify the girl, and he'll miss all kinds of 'steps' and do lots of things 'wrong', but he'll still get laid. To an onlooker like me, it just loos like he opens teh girl, he talks to her for a while, ideally making her laugh a little bit, and maybe tease her slightly. He'll be fairly physical. Then at some point he'll try to isolate her for a kiss or to lead her to his car for sex or something. So …
/r/seduction19/09/16 01:10 PM
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I usually just ask them how their night is going, where they have been so far, or what they are drinking. It's less about what you say but how you say it Cheers. Yeah, I do tend to ask them questions naturally (how's their night, where they've been that night/where' they're going etc.) I don't tend to ask what they're drinking as I'd have nothing to work with really? ''it's wine''...i'd be like ''Cool......is it nice!?'' and sound like an idiot! lol Some people seem to be able to get into a fun/…
/r/seduction18/09/16 10:51 PM
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I must say, in general, all of my very clever friends struggle with girls, and all of my thick friends are slayers! (there are some exceptions, but not many) There's probably more too it, though. For example, my thicker friends tend to be completely uninhibbited, and so take more risks, approach more girls, aren't scared to 'make the move' etc. I guess they actually come off as more confident which is strange when you think about it ; A guy who earns minimum wage packing boxes has got 10x the co…
/r/seduction18/09/16 06:25 PM
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That's the only part of a date I can imagine myself doing well! I'd just give them a big hug! But after that, i'm not sure what I'd ever say. Like ask how there day has been? What are like, the first 5 questions you guys who are good on dates ask!! (all assuming like a tinder date or something, btw. Never met) They are an alien concept to me! How to make them fun and joke around instead of like a weird job interview!!??
/r/seduction16/09/16 05:17 PM
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yeah, that was kind of my philosophy, but from watching some infields, i've seen guys turn around a girl who seemed completely uninterested and kept trying to get away from them, and end up going home with them!
/r/seduction16/09/16 12:57 PM
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I was gonna do that, but the books say that it's weird and pointless too ask for her number before you've established any kind of rapport at all. Is there no good reply for ''i'm on my way home''?
/r/seduction16/09/16 07:51 AM
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thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
/r/seduction15/09/16 11:12 PM
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But from what I read, literally everyone as anxious when they try to pick up strangers? Do they all need to see a Dr? I assumed it was kind of normal? There's about 5 threads per day on 'approach anxiety'. How many approaches should it take to get laid in your opinion? Like, at what point should one change strategy? After 10 approaches? 50? 100? An i'm not really sure what to 'change' when I do? I mean, other than direct and indirect, what else is there?
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:29 PM
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building comfort is a huge part of seduction and being anxious makes that so much more difficult. that's probably true. Is that because of little things like looking physically nervous, eyes darting around, getting lost for words etc? But then, isn't the idea that approaching more and more reduces the anxiety as you get used too it? And if not, what would you suggest? Something like xanax? Would that eliminate all anxiety and allow one to build comfort easier?
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:08 PM
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lines and canned routines always fail if you don't understand the "why" behind them. the lines and routines are usually to demonstrate value, and to either make the girl laugh, or impress her with a story etc (accoring the Neil Strauss) And why see a shrink? I don't think they usually help people to get good at picking up girls :) CCertainly not on the NHS system :)
/r/seduction15/09/16 08:00 PM
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I wish I had his conversational skills - I would have crashed so early!
/r/seduction14/09/16 11:05 AM
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I already love myself, but thanks for the reply. Cheers
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:37 AM
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I tihnk the answer is probably to hang with those better than you so you can pick up conversation tips and stuff? It is frustrating, though. I mean, I have friends who have zero game, but they are very very very good looking, and so they pull girls left-right and centre which naturally makes you feel like shit and can ruin your night a bit!
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:29 AM
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Seemed very smooth and confident and relaxed.
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:27 AM
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If you're in the UK where strangers don't talk, then this is to be expected, really. Try to be sure to smile and look friendly, but other than that, there's not much you can do about it!! (except not approach)
/r/seduction14/09/16 09:54 AM
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it's attached to her hyoid
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:56 AM
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Well, i've just been implementing what the 'game' books advise? Things like what to say at the open, how to transition, kino etc. Surely the only point of reading the books is to actually do what they say in them, otherwise , why even learn 'game'??
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:45 AM
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I work out 4-5 days per week, but I struggle to grow good facial hair which maybe isn't helping, and im' not very tall, so yeah, 'manliness' doesn't ooze from me
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:43 AM
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sorry. I should have mentioned i'm in the UK. It doesn't matter how old he is, even if he was 90, 16 year old girls are still legal under our laws. But he still has to have conversations with them and I guess, 'seduce' them? flirt, tease, kino etc/
/r/seduction14/09/16 08:41 AM
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There are loads of losers with no life ambitions that get laid a lot because they can show a girl a good time for a night. Butdo these 'losers' have game? By ''lifestyle' I was mainly referring to social circle and work situation. Like, I don't have much of a social circle now that all my friends have 'settled down' and I work loading lorries with all men so don't meet girls. I only meet girls when i'm out 'gaming'. But, for example, one of my friends is in his 30's and manages a clothes store, …
/r/seduction13/09/16 11:07 PM
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I agree. But is no game required if you happen to have lots and lots of single girls in your social circle? Like, no need to tease, use push/pull, etc etc. Like I say, I didn't use any game at all on the occasions where I 'got lucky' when I was younger. That was usually with girls who I often kind of knew through social circle. Is that often the way?
/r/seduction13/09/16 11:04 PM
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Confidence? Well, these guys aren't confident enough to approach girls in bars, but I guess they must have some. Can you elaborate on the other two points?
/r/seduction13/09/16 09:48 PM
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He comes across very confident and has good game, and it looks like it's probably not fake, which is nice!
/r/seduction06/09/16 01:45 PM
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That's why it's more important to actually become confident and live an awesome life. A lot of these tips and tricks are trying to get you to mimic a confident person ''To mimic a confident person''. I like that. that's a fairly interesting way of looking at it / simplifying it. But confidence is a funny one. I've always had very low paid jobs as i'm not the sharpest tool in the box, and I guess that lack of money/work success/career hurts my confidence. I've gotten laid before by lying about my…
/r/seduction06/09/16 01:41 PM
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lol, that's true. I've had some of my worst interactions since 'learning game' - Much worse than any i'd had before i'd ever even heard of 'pickup'/game etc. I guess because I had so much running through my mind, and trying to remember lines that i'd heard the RSD guys says etc. I've had some train wrecks under these circumastances!
/r/seduction06/09/16 01:36 PM
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I dunno man. I've read of guys making endless approaches for years on some pickup forums to never get any joy at all! I think you need some sort of 'plan' and an idea of what to say and how the interaction should look.
/r/seduction06/09/16 11:24 AM
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Sure, you can play the jester and get a reaction. How's that going for you? well that's the interesting bit! I've only gotten laid when I do the more ridiculous approaches - more like a youtube prankster than a pickup guy! That's what's confusing me so much!
/r/seduction06/09/16 09:32 AM
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what were the imrpvoements? Were they to do with your body language? The actual sentences that you used to open? Something else? cheers I don't appear to get any better after hundreds and hundreds of rejections
/r/seduction06/09/16 08:08 AM
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I agree that it would never work for something serious, but I mean just for one night stands. I'm certain that there's been times where i've only gotten laid due to some of my lies. It can't 'backfire' for a one night stand. Either she somehow finds out you're lieing and doesn't let you have sex with her, but i'd only ever lie if I got the impression that my true answers would have made her lose interest in me anyway, so either way i wouldn't hav gotten laid. I lied about my job to get laid once…
/r/seduction05/09/16 02:23 PM
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i've done that sort of thing too. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. If a girl is interested in you to the point where she's asking you lots of questions, and you know that your answer might turn her off, I think just telling her lies is a good method. I think most guys do it, really.
/r/seduction05/09/16 02:15 PM
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yeah, I mean i'm not gonna give up yet, but might need to adjust my expectations! I've read 4 books now and have made a fair few approaches, but I don't seem to be improving, unfortunately. So not really sure how to 'improve my approach and methods'. I wish I knew people in 'real life' who could do it, but like I say, hardly anyone out of my hundreds and hundreds of friends gets laid from just picking up girls in bars and stuff. it's always social circle and tinder. It would be great to know som…
/r/seduction04/09/16 03:24 PM
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Just practice talking to and observing women's mannerisms and what they're projecting You mean like, be aware of their body language and stuff, and use that to determine what you should say next or how yuo you open them or something? The goal here is to become fluid and comfortable with women....you know how you do that??? PRACTICE. PRACTICE. FUCKING PRACTICE That's what i'm doing, but I feel like i'm just spinning my wheels and that 'practice' isn't enough without having a much better idea of w…
/r/seduction02/09/16 04:22 PM
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lol, thanks. I made it up on the spot a while ago and it got me a good reaction so I keot using it, but I don't think we're supposed to be using these sorts of lines! ? haha But nearly everything else gets me a negative reaction: me: ''Hey, What's up?'' smile Her: ''Hi'' (looks guarded and confused as to why i'm talking to her) Me: ''Who are you with tonight?'' (or some sort of question like that) Her: Oh...err....they're over there. I've got to go. Bye. runs away OR me: ''Hi. I noticed yuo from…
/r/seduction02/09/16 01:43 PM
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to be clear, I only seem to struggle to transition into a conversation when I open in the 'correct' way. (noticed you from over there. thought you looked interesting. Wanted to meet you) stuff But the silly lines tend to get me off on a much more positive start I feel kind of weird using the jokey openers as it seems unauthentic, but I can't argue with the fact that so far, the results are much better. Even opening with something simple like ''Hi. What's up?'' tends to get a fairly guarded react…
/r/seduction02/09/16 01:12 PM
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how does therapy help? I imagine that there's not much that a therapist could tell me about anxiety that I haven't already read about online? I kind of don't get how it can help. Now, meds, I WOULD like to try, but it's hard here in the UK :(
/r/seduction01/09/16 10:39 PM
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I don't go to bars by myself, no. I go with friends. What do you mean, you don't know what to get in a bar? What do you like to drink? I go for lager (carlsberg). And yeah, it can get expensive. I'm not sure what tips you want?
/r/seduction01/09/16 10:02 PM
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tease them and make fun of them about what? What if there is nothing about them that you can make fun of them for? Or can they be 'canned'?
/r/seduction01/09/16 06:01 PM
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yeah, like you say, even if it was real, i'd also assume that generally, after such a short interaction, the number would likely flake. What sort of things are your referring to that have 'worked' regarding pua vids?
/r/seduction01/09/16 03:25 PM
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is it good to 'try to sound bored'? Is that something you read? I'm never sure how to act when I approach. Some people say that you need 'high energy', and some people say you should be cool and relaxed and slow everything down (kind of bored i guess). And what about smiling? Anyway, good job on getting the number, but I think it's probably best not to get your hopes up as lots of girls give their number out like candy nowadays. I don't tihnk it means much in terms of them ever actually letting …
/r/seduction01/09/16 03:15 PM
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Nope that video is totally staged wow. If you're right, I admit that i'm surprised! However, it also makes me lose faith in any pickup material I see as i guess it's easy to lie about this sort of stuff and use actresses etc. Don't think i'll bother buying RSD max the natural now like i had planned too, lol cheers
/r/seduction01/09/16 03:12 PM
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yeah, i've definitely seen some fake ones, too. But I saw lots that looks legit, too. No more fake than infield puckup vids. I watched this one earlier. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0UitTDGABM He has a 'reactions/reveal' vid to each one too. Supposedly 'coming clean' to the girls and telling them they were being filmed
/r/seduction01/09/16 02:57 PM
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pua vids are probably staged too then (rsd etc), but I get your point
/r/seduction01/09/16 02:03 PM
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thanks. Yeah, sometimes I keep an ear out and try to listen to how guys approach in bars. Problem is that you start to realise that most guys NEVER APPROACH!! I saw a guy approach a girl in the bar on Saturday just gone, and that was honestly like the 1st time in about 2 months that i'd noticed, and like i say, i actually look out for hits stuff!! When i'm eves-dropping, nearly 100% of the time, the opener I will here is '''Awight!! you 'aving a good night!!??'' :) I used 'hey, what's up' a few …
/r/seduction01/09/16 01:50 PM
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I always forget to use these sorts of lines in 'in the moment'. My mind goes blank. Although one time I made it a mission to memorise like 3such lines to use on a certain night, I kind of kept trying to 'shoe horn' these lines in to the conversation, and it really did NOT work! She was like ''Eeerrrrrr....Ok?''. lol
/r/seduction01/09/16 12:53 PM
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How can a professional help? I'm not opposed to the idea of therapy, but I can't for the life of me understand how it could help, or maybe I just don't 'get it'. I mean, I imagine that they won't tell me anything new? Nothing I haven't already read online in my years of reading about mental health? I don't think i'm the sort of person who can be 'brainwashed' or can trick myself into thinking things that i don't truly believe? I admit that the idea of meds appeals to me more. If only I lived in …
/r/seduction09/08/16 09:37 PM
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i think what he's saying, is that although his friend is charming, this isn't what makes girls approach him. They can't know he's charming when he's just sat down drinking a beer. It's his looks that do it all. If a girl is totally into you and think you're as sexy as shit, all you've got to do is not puke on her dress and you're golden! Just don't be completely socially inept. No game/charm needed. I do agree about 'fake it 'til you make it', though. Sometimes I am able to pretend to be confide…
/r/seduction09/08/16 08:50 PM
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so an awkward 'hi' back from her should be expected? If so, Maybe that's good for me to hear, because it makes me slightly defensive when I smile and say 'hey' and then she looks Like I just killed her pet hamster. But if it's a normal reaction, then maybe i'll be able to keep on trucking without losing momentum
/r/seduction09/08/16 05:35 PM
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But it absolutely does not have to be awkward. That would depend on how confident you feel. Girls can pick up on your anxiety, like dogs can smell fear. Vice versa as well really. I don't feel that confident in general if i'm honest, but that's mainly because I can't shake the belief that it's about how you look, and i'm aware that i'm not very good looking. I wish i didn't think like that, but i can't help it. it's like i'd like to believe in heaven and God, but I can't 'switch off' my common s…
/r/seduction09/08/16 04:08 PM
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Maybe it's innate and can't be learnt? Like, most adults have had thousands of conversations, but some are 'good' and some aren't? Bit like in that film Roxanne with steve martin :)
/r/seduction09/08/16 04:01 PM
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I want to learn how to get off into a jokey/banter convo from the off. Every single successful ingteraction i have has had this ingredient. Every single awkward/bad interaction has started off with a very normal 'hi' / ;how are you? / what do you do / bla bla bla There appears to be a pattern, but i'n not sure how to capitalise on it. One way is to 'open' with something kind of 'funny' (but not too silly, and also kind of congruent with teh situation), but I can't think of many such openers. I n…
/r/seduction09/08/16 03:19 PM
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specifically. What do you say. Just like ''how has your day been?''
/r/seduction09/08/16 03:03 PM
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sick game. What do you say when they reply with a slightly awkward 'Hi..?....' in return?
/r/seduction09/08/16 12:18 PM
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thanks. Even though it's not exactly working for me, I did get one fairly hot girl and closed her back at my place a while ago with a cold approach in a bar, and I keep telling myself that as useless as i feel when i'm getting rejected non-stop, if it wasn't for that approach, i'd never have got that girl which inspires me not to give up! There was probably a massive slice of luck involved, but the point still stands. I like what you say about bring girls into your little fun dynamic. Every succ…
/r/seduction08/08/16 02:44 PM
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thanks. Any specific advice regarding ''apply it a bit differently?'' I don't have platinum balls, man! haha. As you read, I completely bottled it with the first 2 girls and I still have quite bad AA. I've been tihnking about my circle of friends recently a fair bit, and trying to work out how on earth they all get so many girls. Like i said, i've more or less never seen any of them approach random girls. They certainly have never read anything about pickup/game. It appears to be a mixture of me…
/r/seduction08/08/16 02:17 PM
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what did you say to open her, and what things were yuo talking about in regards to 'being playful/teasing'?
/r/seduction08/08/16 07:56 AM
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So try to find a way to make going to the bars fun, even if it means not focusing on women for awhile. thanks. But the problem is that that's what i've always done without any results (just have fun with my mates and not approach girls). So now when I go out, I try to approach a lot more, but I still try to spend the bulk of my time in bars just chatting and having fun with my friends.
/r/seduction07/08/16 07:01 PM
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to be honest, he is very good looking, and yes, this happens every time i'm out with him, lol. But yeah, it does me no good to get jealous, but I can't help it. Grrrr edit: PS - what info is missing that you would like? cheers
/r/seduction07/08/16 05:04 PM
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Same. I mean, I banged someone a little while ago within about 2 hours of meeting her. But then, I can also get brutually rejected by every single girl on the next 3 occasions I go out. It kind of feels like pulling is not about skill, but about the girl thinking that you are hot. I can't imagine getting a girl to sleep with me who didn't see me as a potential sexual partner within 2 seconds of meeting me.
/r/seduction07/08/16 04:45 PM
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I actually felt pretty good before going out. I had a workout, caught some sun, and was meeting some good friends i don't get to see much, so I was in a good mood.
/r/seduction07/08/16 04:42 PM
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What was learned from last night? Honestly, I don't feel i've really learnt anything from last night i'm afraid. I mean, the girls just didn't seem interested. Not sure what i can really take from that. I just couldn't get started (with the exception of the 2 girls who were my friends work colleagues. I guess it was easier since we were introduced and so they were friendly from the off, wheras when approaching strangers, there is always a kind of hostile vibe so matter how friendly I am) It tend…
/r/seduction07/08/16 04:37 PM
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pickup industry has gon a a bit crazy recently. Over-saturated with so so many 'PUA Coaches' all trying to sell their 'stuff'. (often using actresses, as has been proven in some cases). Selling dreams. They make it appear that 'game' is more than it is......as if it's some jedi mind trick where you can convince any girl you like to sleep with you once you 'learn game' lol. It's like teaching people to be 'nice', and then expecting everyone to want to be your friend! I think that every person her…
/r/seduction05/08/16 04:50 PM
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cheers. So do you advocate basically always opening with something observational? I'm gonna try to improve here and 'pay attention' as you say, but a girl in a bar, off the top of my head (assuming she's not reading a book or doing yoga or something), I'm thinking after saying hi, to comment on something about their clothes or their drink, asking if they're by themselves (if 1 girl), or if they're waiting for someone (if 2+ girls).....things like that? Probably the opener, if all you did was wal…
/r/seduction02/08/16 11:17 PM
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thanks. I think i've possibly developed a bit of a bias in my head against the 'just say hi' stuff, possibly because i've had some weird reactions (even when I followed quickly with 'how are you' after 'hi' without an awkward pause), but having said that, my sample size is small, so maybe i'm being unfair. It's just that a few of the reactions stand out in my head which were kind of brutal where the girl put her hands i my face as if to say ''not on your dreams. I'm too pretty for you!!'', but t…
/r/seduction02/08/16 08:19 AM
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thanks. Quite interesting. What do you think makes someone 'good in bed' then, in terms of actual sex/penetration? I've slept with a number of girls, and I remember always being told that 'practice makes perfect' but i'm not sure i'm any better in bed than what i was when i was a virgin! The only tangible difference is that I can last longer! The rest of it....well.....there's only so much you can do with a cock! So yeah, what makes a guy 'good in bed' in terms of actual sex/penetration...?....
/r/seduction01/08/16 07:21 PM
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I didn't know it was as high as that. Makes me wonder where 'being bad in bed' even comes from! I mean, if 75% cant' cum from PIV, then whether you're a virgin or a pornstar, the girl won't cum from PIV? Is being 'good' in bed all about oral skills?
/r/seduction01/08/16 06:24 PM
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hi. You seem to definitely 'get' where i'm coming from! I also had a similar thought about how my awkwardness made her awkward and it transferred, even in a nano-second! I guess in a way, i'm asking what to say after 'hi' which is kind of an age-old question that I see here a lot (although not always phrased as such) I guess i'f I always said ''how's it going'' or whatever after saying 'hi', it'd become a sort of habit, then i'd naturally deliver the line more confidently, but then, does it then…
/r/seduction01/08/16 06:07 PM
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Of course height matters (unfortunately! I'm short too) I do like this community, but the way we downplay looks in general is ridiculous. My super good looking friends who don't know what game even is would wipe the floor with the average looking 'PUA's'. However, the average looking pua's would wipe the floor with the average looking guys who don't have any game I think it's about developing a mindset of 'onto the next one, then!!'' until you find the hot girl who ISN'T overly bothered about ho…
/r/seduction01/08/16 09:02 AM
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just make sure shes having multiple orgasms You mean with your tongue and your fingers? I can't get girls to cum with my cock. Maybe it ain't big enough, lol! Or there is some magical angle/stroke technique or something that i'm unaware of! And OP, i've had this happen a number of times, too. Never 'who is this', but when we exchange numbers in the morning, they text in a 'friendly' way, and then just cut off contact after a few days, and clearly aren't interested in meeting up again. To be hone…
/r/seduction01/08/16 07:50 AM
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I also have friends who look like male models who have zero game who clean up with the girls, but when I mention that here, people always say ''no, he knows game. Trust me!'' But they really don't. Girls approach them not the other way around. They don't need to say or do anything to get the girls who are drooling over them into bed. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but we do kid ourselves too much on this sub with the ''looks don't matter stuff''. They matter LOADS! But at the same time, i'…
/r/seduction25/07/16 11:13 AM
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but i guess the guy would follow up with 'what's your name' , 'where are you from', 'what do yuou do', and i'm guessing the girl didn't ask this guy any of them questions
/r/seduction20/07/16 09:15 PM
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if you went to a bar and saw a girl drinking a colorful drink, and you came up with something on the spot about her drink that made her laugh, wouldn't it be normal to use that same line the next time yuo saw a girl with a colorful drink? Also, in my OP, i tihnk i'd like to repalce the word 'robot' with fraud, lol. It feels kind of wrong, but I also feel as though there'll be less awkwardness and it might make the 'interview' seem more fun
/r/seduction20/07/16 07:37 PM
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But without the canned replies, I think i'd fall into interview mode in a few seconds after teh open (which always happens anyway), but then the interview mode will be even more boring than usual? Whereas if i could make some funny comments during that time i could maybe get some interest? Also, What about canned openers at least?
/r/seduction20/07/16 07:10 PM
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