I'm not talking about 'naturals' who know 'game' without having studied it.

I'm not even talking about good looking people.

I'm talking about average looking guys who you know (maybe from hearing them talk to girls) don't know anything about 'game', but yet they get laid.

I don't mean that they are always out sleeping with new girls, but they have 'normal' sex lives.

I've been practicing and learning about game for a few years with almost zero success, and i'm wondering if maybe i'm better of trying to look at it from a different perspective and try to emulate how 'regular' guys get laid.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's more through just being a 'nice guy' and having a big social circle and also working with lots of of young girls and hoping one falls into your lap.

I mean, is 'game' actually required to get laid?? I done better with girls before discovering game, HOWEVER, that's more because I had a much bigger group of friends then, and I was younger and all of my friends hadn't settled down, and so we went clubbing more in big groups, and drunk teenage girls would occasionally throw themselves at me. luck, not game. Better than I do now, though

Personally, I actually approach strangers, open them, try to tease and neg, use push/pull and use kino etc (GAME), but it's starting to feel legitimately impossible. I sometimes wonder if people whoget laid lots are actually getting laid in spite of any 'game' they think they are running and it's maybe more to do with their lifestyle/logistics/good looks