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6

dude the books is not going to be "how to do x in y" situation. it won't have to deal with ethical issues.
/r/seduction17/05/13 01:11 AM
1

Why would toy v ask that.. And why would you expect a straightforward answer
/r/seduction18/04/13 12:40 AM
1

The girl deals with it..not you..most are flattered
/r/seduction04/04/13 11:01 PM
1

Honestly whenever you want..its not a big deal to be turned down
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:37 PM
3

She is being a pain..trying to send you a message by bringing a guy..I would just put her on the back burner but keep inviting her out randomly to group events if you're I'm her hood. Tofu tofu summed up your options pretty well. You could just keep pushing it hard if you don't care about being just friends.
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:35 PM
1

Take an improv class
/r/seduction13/03/13 07:37 AM
5

Yeah I did some coaching for a bit and it was really rewarding!
/r/seduction12/03/13 09:07 PM
4

Awesome. 12 is great for starting up!
/r/seduction12/03/13 08:51 PM
2

Have many clients have you had? Are you the only coach with woome?
/r/seduction12/03/13 08:40 PM
1

Dang..2 hits right in the feels..
/r/seduction07/03/13 04:01 PM
0

Work on conversation skills and building attraction until they won't leave without exchanging contact info. ALso, plan future events while you are talking in person and then follow up with details later.
/r/seduction05/03/13 06:52 AM
1

Just wanted to point out that its not all armchair puas. There is a seddit group in the bay area full of people actively going out and trying things. That being said it really doesn't matter who is giving the advice if its useful to you. You just have to start taking action on your own.
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:31 PM
2

Then again I get compliments on my glasses and look way smarter/older with them on. It depends on the person. I don't have every angular face so I can add some lines with my frames.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:44 PM
9

This is outcome dependence at its finest. Think deeply about whether this is the right incentive. Focus your goals on means not ends..
/r/seduction14/01/13 08:26 PM
1

Are the mods straight edge? Is there a good reason to use the x's in your posts? It looks silly. drop the x's
/r/seduction14/01/13 08:24 PM
44

The model I use can be vizualized as a series of ascending concentric rings, with the bottom ring having a larger area than the one on top of it going all the way up to the top. The area of the ring represents how general the area of discussion is: the bottom ring is the environment we both occupy at that time (a sandwich place/her injury); the next one up her baseline personal details (who she is, what happened); the next one up what she is passionate about (starting a 501(c)(3) to foster inter…
/r/seduction11/01/13 04:36 AM
1

Yeah its good to know but you can always ask her to remove it herself!
/r/seduction10/01/13 07:23 PM
8

Yep I did it just to bug you.
/r/seduction01/01/13 12:30 AM
1

Kino.. Touch is the great communicator of interest that is for both parties to give/deny without words.
/r/seduction31/12/12 08:16 PM
1

Dude if you think showing interest and making people feel important is bad for game..you really need to step up your game.
/r/seduction31/12/12 08:07 PM
2

Practice telling stories about things you did recently.
/r/seduction26/12/12 11:51 PM
2

Meet more girls.
/r/seduction18/12/12 06:15 PM
1

She just not that into you...
/r/seduction18/12/12 06:14 PM
0

Build some more comfort by text unless you know she is very down to meet up.
/r/seduction18/12/12 06:13 PM
24

It just seems to be more of "what happened" vs what you really said or did. Also..did you actually see these people afterwards? I think the problem is that your title makes it sound like a general guide to picking up wait staff but this seems like a pretty specific situation.
/r/seduction18/12/12 06:10 PM
32

So vague
/r/seduction18/12/12 06:01 PM
2

Why bother having askseddit anymore when this seems more effective?
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:00 AM
2

Don't take one experience as truth
/r/seduction15/12/12 12:59 AM
1

Do what happens naturally.
/r/seduction14/12/12 06:02 PM
1

WTF man the point of dancing isn't getting a boner and rubbing it on people. If you get one you get one if you don't you don't. In fact its more creepy than not if you do have a random boner with someone you don't even know. Whiskey dick is not relevant to dancing.
/r/seduction14/12/12 06:01 PM
1

That's because she felt embarrassed once a photo was taken..self conscious that people/frirnds think she's a slut because someone she just met is feeling her up etc. Stop overthinking it.
/r/seduction14/12/12 06:00 PM
5

I think you just asked a dude out.
/r/seduction14/12/12 05:50 PM
3

And you are on r/seddit where physical contact is one of the biggest concepts?
/r/seduction14/12/12 05:48 PM
1

Still would be 18 if you ignored the men...
/r/seduction14/12/12 08:51 AM
1

You're the man. A man demonstrating high value!
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:50 PM
1

Invite her to shows your are going to anyway with your friends
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:49 PM
2

Sometimes forcing yourself to do social things will help you realize the fun that can be had being social.
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:47 PM
2

31 ain't old. You're in your prime.
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:46 PM
1

It is...
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:45 PM
1

Wait till your healthy...
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:45 PM
1

Dance classes.. Swing/salsa.
/r/seduction27/11/12 07:44 PM
1

I think you misunderstand the purpose of being unreactive..in this case all it is showing is your lack of interest
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:51 PM
1

Because you are letting external factors affect your confidence.
/r/seduction29/10/12 04:21 PM
1

Those are the two questions you ask people at a party to get conversations going without fail.
/r/seduction29/10/12 04:20 PM
0

How do you know so and so or where did you hear about this
/r/seduction26/10/12 09:29 PM
1

You already answered your question.
/r/seduction25/10/12 09:48 PM
1

Just saying don't let another guys perceived alphaness influence you.
/r/seduction25/10/12 05:50 PM
1

Then she's not just dtf
/r/seduction24/10/12 08:33 PM
2

Bump into her feet...blame her on playing footsie..and tell her you won't have sex with her tonight
/r/seduction24/10/12 08:32 PM
1

Dont
/r/seduction24/10/12 08:31 PM
1

Dont get so interested until you know morr ...also its probably just spam.
/r/seduction24/10/12 08:30 PM
1

Talk louder
/r/seduction24/10/12 05:40 PM
1

The reality is for a lot of people, this type of modesty is due to a lack of confidence in their skills. Like they don't believe that sharing and talking about their skills is valuable to others. Or they think it is trying to show off. Really its just about letting people know who you really are. If you are really comfortable not telling people about yourself then you don't need but try and find the reality in your actions.
/r/seduction24/10/12 01:51 AM
1

Nope shit tests continue...even get worse to ensure you stay just as on top of your game as when you started.
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:40 PM
2

Nice that move is straight out of Jersey shore! Haha
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:37 PM
1

Depends...
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:15 PM
1

Ask how or why questions.
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:15 PM
2

Kino
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:13 PM
1

Stop doing things online
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:12 PM
18

So...yes
/r/seduction22/10/12 11:39 PM
19

Tell me three things about that make you interesting.
/r/seduction22/10/12 11:38 PM
4

Its different in high school because you have to see these people all the time and you don't want to get a creepy rep. Work on being well liked in general but just don't be afraid to take chances to escalate when you find yourself alone with girls.
/r/seduction19/10/12 11:27 PM
6

Kino
/r/seduction19/10/12 11:25 PM
3

dude, if you feel so strongly then you shouldn't worry about looking 17. If you want to look older than 17 and want to make that a priority over all of your hobbies, then hit the gym. AND EAT MORE. twice a week of gym for 45 minutes using starting strength and eating a shit town of food will add a good amount of weight and strength .
/r/seduction19/10/12 11:12 PM
2

I'd say herpes is pretty bad since it can't be gotten rid of...
/r/seduction15/10/12 10:53 PM
15

You can get STDs with a condom...
/r/seduction12/10/12 08:50 PM
22

Act like you didn't leave a bad impression.
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:55 AM
9

The blueprint decoded by rsd is heavily inspired by Tolle actually...
/r/seduction19/09/12 10:46 PM
1

First and foremost make friends at parties before trying to pickup. Also work on your inner game..it seems like you let external factors effect your state of mind. Like your friend forgetting to text you or a dude forgetting to smoke you up .. maybe they had valid reasons ..either way you shouldn't take it personally
/r/seduction16/09/12 11:03 PM
2

You da man Jackie. I'm always in a better mood after seeing you and I admire your every day dedication. Glad to have been part of it.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:00 AM
1

as much as I love archer, he is more of an asshole than alpha, there is a difference.
/r/seduction13/07/12 10:06 PM
4

all of blueprint decoded is based on tolle
/r/seduction06/07/12 11:25 PM
1

I tapped a girl on the shoulder and asked what are you listening to and she put an earbud in my ear. don't overthink it. My buddy also has successfully done the headphones swap where you switch plugs with yours and see what the other person is listening to.
/r/seduction07/06/12 10:34 PM
1

link fail
/r/seduction07/06/12 01:28 AM
2

great to hear! people, take action!
/r/seduction06/06/12 07:49 PM
2

because referring to someone you hooked up with as a club slut 1 makes you sound disrespectful and 2 attributes any accomplishment you had to the fact that she was easy.
/r/seduction05/06/12 12:41 AM
1

this should be a post by itself!
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:56 PM
3

bitchy girls will do that no matter what you say
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:50 PM
3

um yes, it is the best opener in the world.
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:49 PM
1

same way you got over aa
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:46 PM
5

tl;dr... op seemed like douchebag by bragging about making out with a "club slut" also it cheapens your "accomplishment"
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:45 PM
7

"I know. "
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:39 PM
1

Variations of this have actually worked and recovered several lines of communication. "OMG I havent heard from you in so long, we're getting divorced, i'm taking the kids and the car" Usually they respond about taking the house or insisting they get the kids or dog or whatever and you can do some role playing.
/r/seduction01/06/12 08:42 PM
1

I usually carry it around and drink from it between bars its in poor taste to do that at a bar, unless I hate the bar, then fuck them. girls usually appreciate it when you got booze during smoke breaks outside or especially after last call. bars will kick you out or ban you if they see you though
/r/seduction25/05/12 11:32 PM
1

nope.
/r/seduction25/05/12 01:30 AM
1

I find that the hottest girl in the bar is often not approached. Most guys go for the almost hottest girl thinking it's easier or less intimidating.
/r/seduction24/05/12 10:27 PM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:18 AM
6

"Actually I knew where it was but I just thought you were cute and wanted yo say hi, so how are you doing?"
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:18 AM
2

Try cute instead of sexy, its safer
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:17 AM
2

Smile.
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:15 AM
5

Maybe your not good at getting girls talking about themselves?
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:13 AM
27

Why would you assume that? One it the tenets of seddit is "always assume attraction"
/r/seduction20/05/12 02:12 AM
2

Holy shit city life is like a nonstop party.
/r/seduction18/05/12 07:20 PM
10

Its a lifestyle and there are many burner organized events throughout the year
/r/seduction18/05/12 07:19 PM
2

one thing I have found is really important is to make sure to devote quality time with your lady. make sure your hangouts don't become too vanilla and boring because you take the relationship for granted since you no longer need to "game". make sure she knows she is a priority in your life, which can be hard when you live a busy alpha lifestyle. also, read "the way of the superior man" by David Deida.
/r/seduction14/05/12 08:25 PM
1

so go and meet dreamvacation
/r/seduction11/05/12 05:51 AM
5

that's why you tip them.
/r/seduction08/05/12 10:18 PM
1

so not dancing is fine but why turn down an easy opportunity to kino and escalate?
/r/seduction02/05/12 12:49 AM
1

It is everything. leading is everything.
/r/seduction02/05/12 12:47 AM
2

haha I just wrote about this then found your post!
/r/seduction01/05/12 10:24 PM
2

yep, girl I was chatting up never revealed she had a bf, took me to the dance floor.. angry guido came charging through the floor and socked me in the head before my wing Imkumaryo got a hold of him in a headlock. got him and his group kicked out and got some sweet social proof lol.
/r/seduction01/05/12 10:20 PM
1

vocal projection is something that comes with practice. Eventually you start talking louder when you get annoyed with hearing "What?" all the time. Speak from deep in your belly and as if the person is a few feet away from you.
/r/seduction27/04/12 09:19 PM
1

what were other people doing? were they able to talk or was everyone in the same situation.
/r/seduction27/04/12 09:14 PM
1

don't leech value from others and provide it when you can.
/r/seduction25/04/12 08:32 PM
2

hey hb, im doing x at y place and z time, let me know if you can make it -heckz
/r/seduction24/04/12 11:36 PM
1

Your explanation to us is the best explanation.
/r/seduction28/03/12 11:49 PM
1

If your doing things right by the time the pants cone off none of that will matter.
/r/seduction28/03/12 11:36 PM
1

Girls with big boobs are fun, but girls with smaller boobs are fun too aren't they?
/r/seduction28/03/12 11:34 PM
1

You just took the comment way too seriously and responded too logically, people downvoted you feeling, "gee you must be fun at parties"
/r/seduction28/03/12 11:32 PM
2

She's not a FWB if her heart is getting broken when you stop having sex,that is more like leading her on.
/r/seduction27/03/12 03:20 AM
6

Review outcome independence.
/r/seduction27/03/12 03:19 AM
7

Maybe they just thought it was funny.
/r/seduction27/03/12 03:18 AM
1

Indeed, I will be there!
/r/seduction23/03/12 12:01 AM
2

nitpicky much?
/r/seduction21/03/12 09:28 PM
2

dude, probably 65% of bayareaseddit consider themselves beginners. Some still barely approach while others are god-like, the common thread is that we are all working on improving ourselves and helping each other. Giving value and building strong social networks and friendships. Reading will get you only so far, I'd say 10 hrs of reading is worth 1 hr in field. If you want to improve start taking initiative. You will be disappointed anyway when you come out if you wait so long to see that we basi…
/r/seduction21/03/12 08:17 PM
3

work on your outcome independence.
/r/seduction21/03/12 08:10 PM
1

work on your humor.
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:55 PM
1

Why are you asking this question? I feel like you are trying to get at something else?
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:54 PM
1

a little too much relying on "techniques" there.
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:43 PM
2

How is that creepy? Girls take care of their skin so much, lotion up after every shower etc, keep hand cream in their purse. They love to have that appreciated.
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:43 PM
1

kino on the way to smoke, smoke, chat, kino, go back to room to watch a movie or listen to album , have sex instead.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:23 AM
1

continuously approach.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:20 AM
2

no.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:20 AM
2

don't have that in the USA!
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:16 AM
1

day game on non-bar nights. go to wegmans or urban outfitters.
/r/seduction21/03/12 01:39 AM
1

this guy lives in a town with two colleges, he's just not trying hard enough.
/r/seduction20/03/12 11:49 PM
1

shut up, there are two college campuses on Ithaca, if you are lacking women to talk to something is, seriously wrong. worst excuse ever, there are so many worse places you could be.
/r/seduction20/03/12 11:48 PM
1

watch the blueprint decoded
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:08 PM
1

PS what are you talking about 5'7 150being fatter, you would ideally weight at least 155 at that weight. I'm 5'8 and my best looking weight is like 165-175.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:07 PM
1

you're probably naturally an introvert so beung social is more draining. It will go away with desensitization.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:05 PM
249

fuck you.
/r/seduction18/03/12 06:57 PM
1

I think he showed up around 11:30 or 12.
/r/seduction18/03/12 07:04 AM
2

way too premature for that.
/r/seduction18/03/12 06:58 AM
1

marry the betas while banging the alphas
/r/seduction18/03/12 06:57 AM
2

tyler is short, skinny and his hair is thinning... lol
/r/seduction17/03/12 07:26 PM
6

I feel like you read the post too quickly.
/r/seduction16/03/12 11:39 PM
10

you must be new here.
/r/seduction16/03/12 11:37 PM
2

sure but you have to admit they are the new kids on the block and have less experience.
/r/seduction16/03/12 11:37 PM
2

they just cruise on through san francisco on the regular
/r/seduction16/03/12 11:36 PM
2

simple pickup:marina, td: soma
/r/seduction16/03/12 11:35 PM
1

honestly getting labeled creepy is really bad. avoiding it is smart, so don't avoiding it get to you.
/r/seduction16/03/12 06:32 PM
4

I've seen tofu do all this naturally, it's only after the fact written down does it seem so calculated!
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:45 AM
1

try r/highseddit
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:14 AM
2

, don't waste your time and money if you don't know the answer is yes already.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:14 AM
2

It actually implants a chip in your brain that tracks your thoughts and publishes them on the Internet.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:11 AM
0

see a counselor.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:10 AM
1

maybe desensitize yourself from rejection by trying to get rejected. the only person watching you is yourself buddy.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:09 AM
1

you missed it.
/r/seduction15/03/12 09:32 PM
4

$8 + 5 a mile in SF tip included.
/r/seduction15/03/12 09:31 PM
13

people learn from observation then incorporating to their lives and practicing it.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:44 PM
2

under is super fast and slick and reliable whereas regular cabs are not.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:43 PM
2

bars are the easiest place to kino. get close, touch her back/arm/bring her close to say things on her ear, pull her to you if she can't hear you. stand next to her so your sides are touching accidentally brush hands together etc eazy peezy!
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:11 PM
18

props to engdude for the amazing bounce suggestion and technique.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:05 PM
1

it's probably still anxiety being justified by your premature sense of Inner Game.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:00 PM
2

friendzoned 10s, exposure will let you realize they are just people.
/r/seduction13/03/12 08:38 PM
3

yes it is. find some social activities activities.
/r/seduction13/03/12 08:37 PM
-1

the guy who hasn't f closed id giving advice, lol
/r/seduction09/03/12 05:42 PM
3

trying to dhv is a dlv. stop trying to impress girls so much, girls are the ones that should be talking more. find topics that will open her up emotionally. you really only need stories as follow up or in lulls in conversation.
/r/seduction09/03/12 05:38 PM
1

put high privacy on Facebook so it just looks like you don't use it or they're not privileged to see the good stuff.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:15 PM
1

not when they all know each other.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:13 PM
1

It doesn't work like that in high school. you will come off creepy.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:12 PM
10

the more girls realize you don't let your looks hold you back the more attracted they will be to you.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:04 PM
3

it's just that basically every week someone brings up nofap like its some kind of Magic Bullet.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:00 PM
2

no, yes.
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:12 PM
3

if you are doing life and game right you won't have time or much desire/need to fap anyway.
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:12 PM
3

anecdotal broscience.
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:10 PM
4

either you will start having wet dreams or you just start forgetting how awesome it is and not pursue sex as much... it's not the magic bullet you make it to be. are you saying then once you are getting laid you will suck at meeting new girls? what about if you have a slew of friends with benefits, then your game will suck?
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:09 PM
5

interesting Idea but good luck finding mentors with time to do this. It rally be more beneficial to join a local community since its about going out and meeting people not hanging around on the Internetz. also think it's a bit self limiting to consider yourself a beginner and lump yourself together.
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:40 PM
-6

you're friend is an idiot.
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:35 PM
1

work out, go out it will comeback with practice.
/r/seduction03/03/12 02:33 AM
2

fix that.
/r/seduction03/03/12 02:32 AM
2

gold digger aside your messages could use some work. sound very passive with the "maybe" and you just ignore her comment and keep trying with the same comment.
/r/seduction03/03/12 02:29 AM
1

the pleasure might be faked in porn but the moves are real...
/r/seduction01/03/12 12:11 AM
1

ask people "why?" questions
/r/seduction23/02/12 09:04 PM
1

They will get a confused look, think to themselves "who is this creep" and walk away. Don't try it on girls you will ever see again. You also need to rethink what being seductive is. There's no magical opener.
/r/seduction23/02/12 05:41 PM
2

Why do you need to do this? Unless its to determine if she is above 18.
/r/seduction23/02/12 05:39 PM
1

for some people, maybe
/r/seduction22/02/12 09:38 PM
1

why her then I don't see what she has to do with real life... she's a celebrity
/r/seduction22/02/12 09:15 PM
8

im guessing fuck buddy. and don't use the word fag, its stupid.
/r/seduction22/02/12 08:23 PM
2

whatever gives you an excuse to talk to her is fine!
/r/seduction16/02/12 07:48 PM
2

strive to attain that state sober!
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:09 AM
0

wow, people needed a guide to figure that out?
/r/seduction10/02/12 11:10 PM
1

well the point of seduction is to be able to bring the girls home that don't go home with guys the first night.
/r/seduction10/02/12 11:09 PM
1

who the fuck cares?
/r/seduction02/02/12 05:35 AM
2

sup guys, props on doing this iama and your videos rock and do a great job of opening up common folk to getting better with women/pua without making us look like dbags. are you guys planning on doing coaching or sticking to the videos. are you guys making money as partners on youtube or is that the plan? come up to sf and party with r/bayareaseddit we'd love to have you guys!
/r/seduction02/02/12 04:51 AM
1

really?
/r/seduction02/02/12 04:43 AM
1

no.. what's the point? plus who decides the content?
/r/seduction01/02/12 11:13 PM
1

yes definitely. I am friends with some gorgeous women who adore me and we are all mutually friendzoned. they get a guy friend who knows how to have fun and organizes fun cool events or finds cool parties and people I get incredible social proof and leadership points and comfort being around the beautiful women. I wouldn't have it any other way.
/r/seduction01/02/12 01:43 AM
2

if you're gonna make a suggestion at least attempt to justify the change, not just staying your opinion bro. I don't see a reason to split it up, it's already fragmented enough.
/r/seduction31/01/12 04:14 AM
2

every man need to read this book.
/r/seduction31/01/12 12:23 AM
2

yes almost always say no but are intrigued and want to talk.
/r/seduction28/01/12 10:28 PM
1

yes, but every opener works if delivered well.
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:17 AM
1

poke their butthole with your index finger. it's the pua secret handshake
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:16 AM
3

thats called being an asshole not being alpha. help a brother out next time!
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:15 AM
5

no it doesn't
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:12 AM
1

in the beginning I worked out alot and it helped my confidence, then I got busy and stopped and my a success rate didn't really change.
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:10 AM
4

Yeah chick's usually think it's ballsy
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:09 AM
1

while you seem to want to avoid it communication is the key to relationships. can't have sex well if you cant talk well. y'all are young too and sound somewhat naive. If you can't talk to him and solve it then it's time to move on and find someone that satisfies your needs.
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:50 PM
2

IT'S LIKE IF I RESPONDED TO YOU LIKE THIS. I'M NOT ACTUALLY YELLING BUT THE FORM OF MY TEXT DOES PLAY A ROLE IN HOW YOU RESPOND. IF I DIDNT USE ALL CAPS I WOULD SOUND LESS LIKE AN ASSHOLE. IT'S COURTEOUS TO USE PARAGRAPHS OR HAVE A TL;DR WHEN ASKING FOR FREE ADVICE.
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:46 PM
13

try using paragraphs, they are sexy.
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:06 PM
4

"what is it with you being so attracted to cocky guys "
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:59 PM
32

"I'm just compensating for my extremely small penis. "
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:58 PM
1

in clubs.. it seems like some kind of test, like "how boring will you answer this?"
/r/seduction26/01/12 12:32 AM
2

there's something to be said about moving up the ladder slowly
/r/seduction25/01/12 11:03 PM
2

he is selling a product but they are pretty honest about it in person.
/r/seduction25/01/12 11:00 PM
1

stop trying to prove yourself to women.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:57 PM
8

you may get "I don't know,why? " as a response
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:56 PM
-1

no it was on reddit.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:54 PM
1

It was on reddit lol. the line is "we should have sex"
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:54 PM
-1

It can be a shit test when you are asked this early in a conversation when it's really not relevant. while you could answer logically answering it like it were a shit test will likely increase the emotional connection.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:53 PM
1

just don't accidentally sign up for their dvd series, when signing up
/r/seduction25/01/12 07:22 PM
2

it's ok every crappie text is a learning experience
/r/seduction25/01/12 04:04 AM
0

chicks love skinny guys for real
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:44 AM
1

don't bother with jokes andvwitty texts just go straight to plans. you should have already setup the groundwork and attractions before. If your text looks stupid delete it and just send one as if you were texting your buddy
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:40 AM
5

Sure, it's addictive. Positive Reinforcement. Have fun with it. It is possible to change from introverted to extroverted in this way. Eventually you start requiring a certain amount of social interaction to be happy.
/r/seduction25/01/12 01:11 AM
2

Rob Judge or Chase Amante. No personal experience with them but their writings are legit.
/r/seduction25/01/12 01:07 AM
1

and how many of such numbers went anywhere?
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:14 PM
3

this happened to me but I'm not desperate enough to push it, but I said fine and had some good spooning then passed out too, then we banged the next morning. this is just a risk involved when alcohol is involved people have too much and get sick or tired.
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:28 PM
3

I like turtles
/r/seduction20/01/12 11:59 PM
1

if yiu have only mildy dabbled with this stuff in real life then you can't say you've been into this pua stuff for a few years.. you just been engaging in mental masturbation. anyway try asking the girl this same question! shell love it.
/r/seduction20/01/12 06:40 PM
2

but you gotta tak, charge can't rely on luck for everything.
/r/seduction19/01/12 04:47 PM
2

It takes balls to be vulnerable.
/r/seduction19/01/12 04:46 PM
2

nice! maybe the fact that you never pushed for the number made her want to give it to you lol, either way you got lucky!
/r/seduction19/01/12 04:37 PM
1

get good at conversing with all people.
/r/seduction17/01/12 09:35 PM
4

wouldn't it be better to say hey buddy your speakers are in the way so I'm gonna move them rather than just doing it?
/r/seduction17/01/12 05:06 AM
1

op mentioned "kinda seeing someone" not long term relationship girls. plus a girl in relationship 6 months should be able to pass a boyfriend destroyer anyway...
/r/seduction16/01/12 11:28 PM
9

a few weeks is hardly committed, in this day in a big city most girls are "kinda seeing someone" or two or three
/r/seduction16/01/12 11:16 PM
1

just dhv with your story its so badazz. when you want to pull say "hey let me show you my foot at my place. "
/r/seduction16/01/12 02:45 AM
19

similarly, don't be a dick if you're a nice guy
/r/seduction13/01/12 05:27 PM
1

more like great another guy that randomly gave me his number just because I'm cute as if a million guys don't do this
/r/seduction13/01/12 04:59 AM
6

how the hell do you fall so hard for someone you never talk to... just because she is cute??? this isn't 7th grade. even if you do get a date the fact that you put her on such a high pedestal will turn her off and make her run!
/r/seduction12/01/12 10:24 PM
2

oops you are right
/r/seduction12/01/12 09:08 PM
5

referring to them as bitches kind of goes against your interpretation
/r/seduction12/01/12 08:04 PM
2

be awesome, have social proof, be popular, and they will flock to you on their own
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:06 PM
1

actually It makes you look like you are trying hard to be funny and witty
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:05 PM
1

guys, stop trying so hard to text, the second you think so much about it the second you try too hard!
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:04 PM
1

thats why you avoid joking on text, can easily be taken the wrong way. I'd just amplify it more to ridiculousness and always include a :-P or ;-) when you make jokes on text,,
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:03 PM
2

don't, its way too negative unless you want to come off as an asshole
/r/seduction12/01/12 05:06 PM
1

very negative, will turn all but the girls with bitchiest shields off
/r/seduction12/01/12 05:05 PM
5

be aware that gay guys love pushing straight guys comfort levels at gay clubs to make sure you are there to have fun/the real deal, but if they like you they will set you up with their horny single friends.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:50 PM
3

one experience is not a population.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:48 PM
1

shit what about macys there was one there too, better make a subreddit.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:46 PM
4

careful, sounds like she just wants a free lunch from an AFC.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:00 PM
0

if you can afford it, yes. But not if you don't put your heart into it. Just be careful, most therapists probably suck at game or will give you game unfriendly advice if you talk about relationships/feelings/women. Gotta find a good therapist worth talking to. However, when I recently thought I might need it I didn't want to spend the money, instead I just focused on myself HARD and didn't end up needing it. I also found several new friends that I could open to which eliminated any need for it. …
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:04 AM
20

We absolutely don't need even more subreddits. We already had a big reduction in subreddits because it was getting too all over the place.
/r/seduction12/01/12 06:57 AM
1

the biggest role a bootcamo will play is forcing you to act because you want to make the best of the money you put down. find a wing give him 300 bucks and sat you get it back $10dollars a time for each approach you make. if he points someone out and you fail to approach you lose $10 for good. by the time you get your money back you will have had sex and gained a shitton of experience. that said I think there are some solid bootcamp coaches and some cheaper I believe rob judge is in nyc and is a…
/r/seduction10/01/12 03:16 AM
5

Just put off having sex for a while then tell her before having it, it will drive her mad in the meantime and you can get further along in the relationship without any 'deal breaking'. Other option is to tell right away and educated her on how proper condom use and medication reduces the risk of transmission close to zero and that you didn't want to surprise her later since it's her decision if it's a deal-breaker, make it easier for her to decide before she's emotionally committed. Hell you may…
/r/seduction09/01/12 10:53 PM
1

well if you find a long term partner they will accept you herp and all!
/r/seduction09/01/12 07:58 PM
1

good on you. The odds are low but you gotta know.
/r/seduction09/01/12 07:57 PM
1

so?
/r/seduction09/01/12 07:55 PM
4

Basically it's only okay if you're at the point where you can put your hands in your pocket without asking the Internet if it's okay to do so.
/r/seduction09/01/12 07:51 PM
2

Its your duty to get checked before you have sex with anyone else.
/r/seduction09/01/12 07:49 PM
2

can't tell if serious or douchebag
/r/seduction05/01/12 08:16 PM
0

while specific methods were a bit different I came into all this with the exact same situation +/- a few years, similarly, expanding my non existent friendbase was crucial to my success.
/r/seduction05/01/12 12:22 AM
1

lmr, don't be needy and she'll be in touch to bang soon, if forget about it.
/r/seduction04/01/12 03:18 AM
6

your autocorrect just revealed your kink.
/r/seduction04/01/12 03:09 AM
1

thats realy not much time to organize a convention.. why not just start a seddit lair like r/bayareaseddit and have regular meetups and get some solid interest first.
/r/seduction03/01/12 06:07 PM
8

even if it were that's a difference of one inch which is insignificant.. i really expecred you to have a 1 inch micro penis when I clicked this. It's all in your head as proven by when you were drunk.
/r/seduction03/01/12 02:36 AM
1

NYC/SF
/r/seduction31/12/11 05:04 AM
0

why even answer the next day, get on with your life!
/r/seduction31/12/11 05:03 AM
2

my lady asked me if she could go get some free drinks and i said, FUCK YEAH!
/r/seduction31/12/11 05:02 AM
1

I'm referring to the whole "seduction no fap movement" in which people think that not fapping makes you "more alpha"
/r/seduction31/12/11 05:00 AM
2

PS I tried nofap and had the same problem plus wet dreams.. not worth it, just focus on getting laid not silly gimmicks.
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:28 PM
2

OK but SF is just as expensive and it's 8.
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:26 PM
4

upvote for zen
/r/seduction30/12/11 01:48 AM
2

Meet as many girls as you can an early on in the night, no really game necessary just don't get blown out. no girl will want to be kissless at midnight but will rather kiss someone she recognizes from earlier than completely random so just find one from earlier and chat with her 5 minutes before midnight, she'll know what's up and when the ball drops there really isn't anything else to do at that point.
/r/seduction30/12/11 01:48 AM
2

This is there worst list ever...rochester, phoenix, san jose should not be there..and where is nyc?
/r/seduction30/12/11 01:41 AM
1

Fuck Rochester
/r/seduction30/12/11 01:38 AM
4

Drop porn, but not masturbating, just reduce the frequency. You think once you have girlfriend you would stop having sex to "be more alpha"?
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:27 PM
2

NYC/SF
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:22 PM
3

Actually, its awesome.
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:21 PM
2

It depends on there location but E is usually not just MDMA but mixed with some kind of upper whereas Molly is pure mdma
/r/seduction29/12/11 01:57 AM
5

No you don't.
/r/seduction28/12/11 07:43 PM
3

Volunteer.
/r/seduction28/12/11 07:40 PM
1

sounds like a case "just don't fuck up". she was in a dating site and made all the moves. she used all the same lines puas use to bounce spots.
/r/seduction25/12/11 07:33 PM
1

if you think you met the girl of your dreams already you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction25/12/11 07:28 PM
1

this is not that important. bad ass dudes don't talk to everyone. it's mostly for practice when you are starting out.
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:15 AM
5

except the point is to get her talking not to for you to have a soliloquy.
/r/seduction25/12/11 02:13 AM
1

let us know if you ever actually meet her again.
/r/seduction22/12/11 02:08 AM
1

I agree about poem but not masturbation because it's like saying hey guys sex makes you bad at seduction never F-close!
/r/seduction22/12/11 12:46 AM
2

I also find I still get complimented on my body now that I am skinny again so don't feel like you have to be buff to get chicks. rsd tyler is scrawny as hell..
/r/seduction22/12/11 12:44 AM
2

this. I basically gained 20-25 pounds of muscle, which was very difficult, constantly eating and lifting heavy... felt very confident, then I stopped working out and lost most of the weight and muscle but i kept the confidence. if you are really that thin you need to gain some weight for your own sake. learn to do squats and deadlifts and do them three times a week and drink whole milk with every meal. lookup starting strength and gomad and get on r/fitness.. and you will need to eat probably tw…
/r/seduction22/12/11 12:42 AM
1

wat.
/r/seduction22/12/11 12:36 AM
1

at the same time I hear Japanese amogs are serious as hell as they hate American guys stealing their national treasures.
/r/seduction22/12/11 12:32 AM
1

agree with first and third points but about your second point... noone cares if you sit by yourself. I have done that and still opened successfully.
/r/seduction20/12/11 10:28 PM
1

logistical reasons? lol
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:51 PM
1

increase distance talk about other girls and she may really what she is missing and will try to get back in your life, and if not you're already taking steps to move on.
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:19 PM
3

enjoy the days where you don't have to work to put food on your plate and have a warm place to live and clothes to wear.
/r/seduction20/12/11 06:20 PM
1

everyone in here keeps saying people just posture but i just wanted to mention that I in fact have gotten punched in the head a couple times by some dbag whose girlfriend who I was chatting up for 15 minutes and then wanted to dance with me. dude came running out of nowhere and ran up to me and got in my face. luckily my buddy was there and we used some of our basic jiu jitsu skills to defuse the guy and since we are regulars at that bar the other entire party had to leave. still, it's important…
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:30 PM
2

sometimes you don't find out until some bro is in your face.
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:23 PM
1

offer two options for days rather than relying in her. Avoid first dates on Fridays or Saturdays because girls will say they are busy even if they aren't for 'social proof' unless you are inviting them to an event you are already going to in which case you don't care if they show or not. also, if a girl makes it so hard to meet up she's not that into you, give her some space.
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:19 PM
0

your posts are super beta.
/r/seduction15/12/11 11:48 PM
1

just be awesome to everyone and let them come on to you.
/r/seduction14/12/11 08:45 PM
1

qualification, look it up.
/r/seduction14/12/11 08:36 PM
3

It doesn't matter if it's fake or real you need to field test everything or use your own damn brain to decide if something makes sense or not.
/r/seduction14/12/11 08:01 PM
7

shittiest page ever
/r/seduction14/12/11 01:12 AM
1

Indians need to pronounced v's and w's properly and stop being ignorant of our culture!
/r/seduction13/12/11 11:56 PM
7

wait to introduce yourself till some attraction is built then challenge her to get it right and wager things, make it a game. right it down, neg her on being ubcunultured.... move or find a nickname.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:45 PM
7

going straight for the hand without any pre open or ioi first is high risk high reward. i either get flat out rejected or she will get really into it right away. try smiling, raising your glass, or booty bumping first.
/r/seduction13/12/11 04:52 PM
3

zero.
/r/seduction13/12/11 05:09 AM
1

I am so confused why the question of where this would be posted is so prominent.. if people read the sidebar they would see there is a iama mpua series that has always been posted to r/seduction
/r/seduction13/12/11 01:17 AM
24

he's not trying to impress you.
/r/seduction11/12/11 09:22 PM
1

Does your "seduction" work support you fully financially or do you do other work too?
/r/seduction09/12/11 07:40 PM
1

read the dicarlo escalation ladder.
/r/seduction09/12/11 06:04 PM
1

damn I thought this was about kino on the tummy, which is also gold.
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:55 PM
-10

go buy some perfume.
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:50 PM
1

girls have said you are attractive, leave it at that. some people are not as lucky as you.
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:52 AM
1

do lots of squats and deadlifts, eat red meat and drink whole milk and you will exude testosterone
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:51 AM
2

all I can say is usa123fuckyeah!!!
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:43 AM
1

find other girls to talk to and not worry about one girl
/r/seduction08/12/11 05:18 AM
2

I have a game its called whenever your buddy is in a hooked set you buy him a drink, wing him then get lost.
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:46 AM
1

if each time any of my friends failed we bought a shot we would be dead in 2 hrs.
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:45 AM
1

why
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:33 AM
1

it's cuz i live in on a fault line.
/r/seduction07/12/11 12:52 AM
1

there is an amazing keys to the vip episode where he pulls and at one point he says "you're the ugliest girl here"
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:07 PM
1

literally 50% of my opens are "hi... :-)... how's it going "
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:04 PM
1

find interesting people to talk to then. maybe it's that attitude they pick up on which makes them not want to talk you and make you do all the work.
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:03 PM
1

google.com
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:01 PM
1

everything works
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:00 PM
1

it's better to cut off contact yourself, if she's into it/you she will reengage
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:55 PM
2

I dunno how much people like having pointed out that they were drunk. (oh yeah I was drunk that's why I talked with this guy)
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:52 PM
2

it's not about having the FR its about going out and creating a an FR worthy experience
/r/seduction06/12/11 07:11 PM
2

more like qualification
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:35 PM
0

then you might have to gasp talk to people and find out if they know it!
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:34 PM
2

soundhound>shazam
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:33 PM
2

heres one way, give less shit about her than she does about you. and have a lifestyle where you don't care about keeping a girl interested, it's assumed.
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:32 PM
1

you'll end up with another subreddit with even less content and participation, have fun with that!
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:30 PM
15

Maybe try having a conversation next time!
/r/seduction06/12/11 02:42 AM
1

then what's the problem?
/r/seduction05/12/11 09:32 PM
1

fuck what your non understanding friends think
/r/seduction05/12/11 08:30 PM
3

damn on a good night I grab a boob and get in a fight
/r/seduction05/12/11 08:29 PM
3

sound like a better outcome in the long term! I bet that girl is still into you too
/r/seduction05/12/11 08:29 PM
1

have you been a good girl or naughty girl? for groups... which one you has been good/naughty?
/r/seduction05/12/11 07:40 PM
1

a real social retard.
/r/seduction05/12/11 06:34 PM
2

PS if you think you are sol because your phone is dead, you need to step up your game. If she is interested she will make sure you get the number somehow. also what happened to pen and paper?
/r/seduction05/12/11 06:33 PM
1

Just take her phone and make her text you, it will get delivered when you turn your phone back on.
/r/seduction05/12/11 06:31 PM
1

yes. do it. you won't regret it especially with the driving. live where you want to spend the most time.
/r/seduction01/12/11 09:14 PM
9

congrats! you're on your way, keep it up!
/r/seduction01/12/11 01:04 AM
8

better yet, actually be popular and get texts!
/r/seduction01/12/11 01:02 AM
3

I usually text them within a minute of saying bye, not at the end of the night
/r/seduction30/11/11 09:13 PM
1

make more friends and smile and laugh more.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:29 AM
1

just use em for social proof, dance with them etc then switch to your targets
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:22 AM
5

focus on opening not closing, but go get em!
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:19 AM
1

winning!
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:39 PM
1

try r/sex
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:33 PM
1

no but striking a conversation is fine and see where it goes is fine. if you just randomly ask someone out why would they say yes?
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:30 PM
2

just don't get shitty numbers, i drastically reduced the numbers I bother getting but since then they are all much less flaky
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:27 PM
1

exactly. ill work on a ragecomic except I have hilarious results like my dog randomly lixking girls... lol
/r/seduction27/11/11 06:45 AM
1

staple your pockets closed.
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:12 AM
6

r/sex often discusses this. Check there. but i am assuming you have already taken the steps of eliminating porn from your life and getting rid of the deathgrip?
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:10 AM
0

go out alone or make more friends. Or go out alone and make new friends!
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:08 AM
1

love that date opener. will put it in my bag!
/r/seduction24/11/11 12:20 AM
7

that would have been creepy and miscalibrated.
/r/seduction24/11/11 12:15 AM
0

fuck off seddit, dick.
/r/seduction19/11/11 05:47 AM
3

sometimes in the heat of the moment she jumps in bed and its kind of hilarious as she tries to find a place to sleep while there is all kind of racket in the bed. someone needs to add a *fixed ragecomic where the pet tryz to cockblock
/r/seduction19/11/11 04:02 AM
2

probably yez
/r/seduction19/11/11 04:00 AM
1

I always use that line "she is usually really shy, wow she is opening up to you" lol, i think my dog enjoys it even more than I do when I bring a girl over, haha
/r/seduction19/11/11 04:00 AM
1

don't worry about ut
/r/seduction18/11/11 10:06 PM
0

y
/r/seduction18/11/11 10:01 PM
1

Basically yes. a held close embrace drives attraction outta the roof
/r/seduction18/11/11 09:58 PM
-1

try 5s and 6s
/r/seduction18/11/11 09:56 PM
-3

the correct answer when she says beards/stache is gross is "perfect, that must mean you keep it clean down there" then switch to a sexual topic.
/r/seduction17/11/11 11:33 PM
1

how would this be spam? even if it's a confusing its not advertising or unrelated.
/r/seduction17/11/11 01:47 AM
1

noise
/r/seduction17/11/11 01:46 AM
1

stop making out
/r/seduction17/11/11 01:46 AM
2

yeah dude, girls melt when you just look at them perfectly content, wait and just smile. instant ladyboner.
/r/seduction16/11/11 04:07 AM
1

just sit on the bed and pat the bed nex to you and have her sit there. stop overthinking, the girl is already over.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:53 AM
2

hmm I always thought triangle gaze is for girls to to me and for me to notice!
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:51 AM
1

it's presented as an absolute last resort I believe.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:48 AM
5

you also want to be that person not just present yourself that way
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:47 AM
1

this but texting again a couple of days later won't hurt.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:47 AM
1

PS worrying so muc about the friendzone will put you there. I have had success on dates across the table where I later bounced to a bar that i could sit next. across can put some ease into a girl while you work your conversation skills.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:42 AM
1

just play a bit then get on her side to cheat and stay there. or do it when she goes to the bathroom.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:40 AM
0

seek therapy.
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:38 AM
2

during silence she is thinking "what is he thinking? does he like me?"
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:37 AM
1

also look up lmr
/r/seduction14/11/11 09:49 PM
1

so you need to work on building more comfort. also of you hear that sometimes they are still dtf the next morning or on a subsequent day 2, usually they'll contact you.
/r/seduction14/11/11 09:46 PM
1

It's so easy to get numbers like that...but all of them seemed flaky as hell. All attraction and no comfort/rapport, no time-bridging, no future plans.
/r/seduction03/11/11 06:42 AM
2

I think most of us on seddit can agree that the simple pickup guys could work on their body language.
/r/seduction03/11/11 06:20 AM
1

I would definitely go see a therapist now.
/r/seduction03/11/11 06:18 AM
2

It's definitely possible to build comfort and attraction through text, but it's really not worth it if you can just build up enough comfort and attraction before you even get the number.
/r/seduction03/11/11 05:58 AM
0

wow, this is lame. do you really need someone elses playlist to be seductive? i feel like you could be spending your time more effextively than compiling this for a wiki. its not like everyone has the same taste, anyway rather than a wiki maybr yiu should just link some grooveshark playlists.
/r/seduction02/11/11 06:24 PM
1

tl;dr
/r/seduction02/11/11 06:20 PM
1

nope.
/r/seduction02/11/11 05:24 PM
1

take dance classes and lift weights.
/r/seduction28/10/11 08:38 PM
2

the hb scale is unique to each person, when he sayd she was a hb10 it makes it clear what the impact of her on him was which more useful to discuss seduction than a universal scale of attractiveness.
/r/seduction28/10/11 08:25 PM
2

it could still be pretty hilarious, ideally u could gather some girls to join your costume though.
/r/seduction28/10/11 08:18 PM
2

go on more dates with people you like
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:22 PM
1

pretty cheesy imho. be a chick magnet, don't dress like one.
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:19 PM
0

85.
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:15 PM
78

i love how everyone's responses are on the usage of the hb scale and nothing to do with the OPs point, which is a good one. we arent here to take advantage of people or be deceptive, props to the OP for doing the right thing. heres a tip for next time, make sure the girl knows you are not ltr material and become her fwb instead and not have to "move on"
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:07 PM
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this just means he thought she was way hot, it doesnt matter what others consider attractive. thats why we use the scale. now we know how he had framed his interactions with her, in treating her as an HB10 as opposed to 7.
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:02 PM
6

who cares? its a normal question, not "the cube"
/r/seduction28/10/11 12:06 AM
5

excuse me, how do you spell poignant
/r/seduction28/10/11 12:06 AM
48

fall asleep
/r/seduction27/10/11 11:04 PM
1

If I don't meet up within 2 weeks, I move on.
/r/seduction27/10/11 07:34 PM
8

have spare toothbrushes.
/r/seduction26/10/11 11:11 PM
1

you phrased it as if if he had just avoided those two things she would be dtf but theres more to it than that. i could go on the same date but pay and call her hot vs not and it would not play a big role in terms of her being dtf. in fact she might be more down if i pay because society makes her feel like she owes something.
/r/seduction25/10/11 11:34 PM
1

tl;dr
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:58 PM
2

not a movie but keys to the vip
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:21 PM
1

patience my friend.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:20 PM
1

sounds like you dodged a bullet.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:15 PM
3

dude you just enjoyed the music and ambiance they created, help a band out. even a buck is appreciated. at best those guys usually get a portion of the tips from the bar which amounts to not much. also why. did you buy all her drinks if you cant afford to tip the band. "not tonight man" is not polite,its rude and dismissive, and will you tip them another night? to me you DLVed yourself here. he didnt make you look cheap, you were cheap and incongruent. if your poor skip a round to tip the band o…
/r/seduction25/10/11 04:41 PM
1

*locus
/r/seduction25/10/11 04:33 PM
1

honestly sometimes its not worth the time. i used to build confort through text but now i just pursue the ones where sufficient attraction was already built.
/r/seduction25/10/11 03:55 PM
1

conversation is creative and improvisational. if you don't throw yourself in you won't ever get any practice. approach!
/r/seduction25/10/11 03:53 PM
1

Did you want to have sex with her? (you definitely could have). If yes then read up on the dicarlo escalation ladder. Good job stepping out your comfort zone and keeping the playful vibe.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:44 AM
1

People are at different stages in their lives or want different things in their lives. I do think getting involved emotionally is great, but it can also happen after just sex. Personally, without having had sex, I can't really tell how compatible I am with someone.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:39 AM
3

I agree that I wouldn't have done these things but "buying dinner" or "calling her hot" wont really make a difference on if a girl will be DTF.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:36 AM
2

You might want to work on not getting so defensive and reactive when people disagree with you.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:34 AM
1

You are right---there is more to life than fucking everything that walks--- but there is also more to life than just pursuing relationships only.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:31 AM
2

Sometimes you just create such a strong emotional connection, that sex happens! Or sometimes you meet someone that is on vacation like the OP and you aren'y looking for any kind of relationship and just having fun!
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:30 AM
4

Escalate more? Yes into what? fucking her a few hours after meeting yes and losing total respect for her? no IMO a girl that only kisses on the first date is a keeper. If a girl makes me wait for sex I respect her much more and am much more enticed. Give it up on the first date and i'll move on right away cause it just shows how easy you are. that's just like your opinion man.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:29 AM
1

stop having time to think in your head. talk to more people.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:19 AM
1

You won't learn this from a book or from advice on reddit. Try it out.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:55 AM
2

Tell her to take a nap and let her.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:52 AM
1

Depends on what you are looking for. I have greatly reduced the number of numbers I get or pursue. But the ones I do are usually responsive. And eventually you can tell from the conversation if the number will respond or not.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:36 AM
1

I get that anxious feeling when I see an attractive woman. I think AA is attraction mislabeled.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:34 AM
6

So last weekend I went out and talked to this very attractive blonde. No one was talking to her but there were about 5-6 guys hovering near her. So I grabbed her elbow and said "I want to talk to you" and introduced myself. I asked her how her night was going and she said it was going alright. I told her I agreed that it seemed like it was going only alright and she didn't seem to be talking to any guys. I "cold read" how either two situations likely occurred tonight, either she was getting hit …
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:30 AM
3

Obviously it was for her looks. Be honest.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:14 AM
3

work on building comfort and bridging to day 2's before getting numbers. also, make sure your texts are non-needy.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:13 AM
1

just wait a few days and text again, nothing to lose. There are valid reasons why people don't respond to texts, I certainly don't respond to all my texts.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:13 AM
1

Disagree. Often my first text is ignored and second or third is picked up.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:12 AM
1

Don't hope. Text then forget about it. Dwelling on shit like that is bad for your inner game.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:12 AM
2

i think your idea of nice guy is different than what others refer to. thats why we have terminology like AFC to try and reduce miscommunication.
/r/seduction24/10/11 11:56 PM
6

salsa dancing.
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:40 PM
0

talk to a therapist, not the Internet.
/r/seduction23/10/11 07:49 PM
1

It's s not about figuring out how to get one woman it's how to be good with all women.
/r/seduction23/10/11 07:48 PM
35

approach approach approach approach approach
/r/seduction22/10/11 08:21 PM
0

last thing we need is more books.
/r/seduction22/10/11 06:50 PM
1

pm specific people to look at your fr.
/r/seduction22/10/11 06:49 PM
3

wear fuzzy hat. use routines. be mystery. get laid.
/r/seduction18/10/11 06:57 PM
2

ymmv, depends on the city... and you definitely have a high chance of chatting up girls under 18 by accident. food courts are great too!
/r/seduction18/10/11 04:52 AM
1

malls, parks. festivals, grocery stores.
/r/seduction18/10/11 04:01 AM
1

everywhere.
/r/seduction18/10/11 03:55 AM
2

all in your head buddy, if you think it will be, it will be.
/r/seduction18/10/11 03:54 AM
1

Is she really that into you? Who meeds six months to start a relationship, damn.
/r/seduction11/10/11 11:53 PM
1

Cancel and offer to reschedule.
/r/seduction07/10/11 06:13 PM
1

Bouldering is great to meet people and talk. Also the girls are always fit
/r/seduction06/10/11 12:06 AM
1

Nope, needy, he shouldn't care
/r/seduction05/10/11 05:01 PM
1

We are presumptuous. Anyway, it does work.
/r/seduction05/10/11 04:17 PM
2

You didn't do anything wrong, don't try and fix it.
/r/seduction04/10/11 11:09 PM
1

Pirate Waldo, zombie Waldo, goth Waldo, etc..
/r/seduction02/10/11 06:23 PM
2

Yep, shy awkward asian dad, definitely had to put in work to break outta my shell.
/r/seduction02/10/11 06:04 PM
1

Sorry, ImKumarYo and I have been out of internet since we moved to white castle. We are getting it next week and will be back.
/r/seduction02/10/11 04:53 AM
1

This seems pretty consistent with what rsd espouses these days except maybe even even step 1 is dropped.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:58 PM
1

Sounds legit to me. Depending on what you are going for, going sexually early on makes your intent clear.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:57 PM
1

Board games
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:07 PM
2

Doesn't matter. Always assume attraction.
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:07 PM
3

Maybe she wrote it down wrong. Maybe she is too shy to take initiative. Maybe her dad died and she is going through too much to deal with. Maybe she has a boyfriend. Maybe she didn't like you. Maybe she sensed you were the kind F person to over react. Maybe she is a lesbian. Or maybe she just thought it would be fun to troll you and not call after saying she would. Who knows? That's why I tell everyone to never fear rejection or take it too seriously.
/r/seduction28/09/11 02:02 AM
1

I think the same concepts would apply, especially if the person identifies as female and is on hormone therapy.
/r/seduction28/09/11 01:55 AM
30

Hmmm good point, maybe I should go fishing!
/r/seduction28/09/11 01:49 AM
3

Moral of story, if she doesn't show as much interest or chase, drop her?
/r/seduction27/09/11 11:46 PM
1

Yes and in person at the freetour.
/r/seduction27/09/11 11:34 PM
1

It gets better from #5
/r/seduction27/09/11 09:11 PM
2

I find tyler vids hit or miss, a lot of mental masturbation but girlschase is solid too.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:10 AM
30

Good job. Keep it up!
/r/seduction27/09/11 02:57 AM
2

We just need a bot to autopost practicalpickup to seddit. All their articles are gold. Love that seddit got called out too.
/r/seduction27/09/11 02:56 AM
1

That can be pretty obvious in bars that aren't that crowded.
/r/seduction27/09/11 12:42 AM
2

Bump your hip into her playfully.
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:15 PM
1

You're probably trying too hard to be funny entertaining etc with your texts..
/r/seduction24/09/11 08:57 PM
4

Dance clubs are good by yourself ad if you have noone to talk to you can just go dance!
/r/seduction23/09/11 10:45 PM
0

Building comfort through laughter makes a girl comfortable enough to have sex with you even if she just met you, for being so 'focused' it seems like you have missed basic mystery method.
/r/seduction23/09/11 08:33 PM
2

Keyword, certain.
/r/seduction23/09/11 07:47 PM
1

This is good if you want to girlfriend but not really for just hooking up...
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:12 PM
6

Who the fuck cares if she's into you, if you want to kiss her you do it!
/r/seduction22/09/11 07:39 PM
11

Just do it. She wants you to. Trust me.
/r/seduction22/09/11 05:48 PM
1

See a counselor, if you haven't already.
/r/seduction22/09/11 04:28 PM
1

Taking charge of your life is a huge part of being attractive and seduction in general. Make some goals like finishing school and getting a job.
/r/seduction22/09/11 04:19 PM
1

Stop reading and start doing
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:39 PM
1

Move.
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:37 PM
2

A lot of girls reject you to test you, usually I call them out on it and I can get right back in set.
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:36 PM
5

I'll share two: 1: "id appreciate it if you would stop talking to me, asshole! " 2: slap in the face If you haven't been slapped, you haven't been sargin
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:33 PM
1

We obviously do things differently, all my "dates" are cheap, casual, friendly and close to my place. I guess I should have just called them day 2s here.
/r/seduction22/09/11 01:18 AM
0

Isn't a meetup a date?
/r/seduction22/09/11 01:08 AM
0

In my case, I hardly ever run into people again but yeah, in person is the best.
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:49 AM
3

I have gotten several dates from email. Honestly, in this day everyone is on the computer or smartphone all day its not that different from text.
/r/seduction21/09/11 11:08 PM
1

It probably depends on your location. I've been to three different class venues and the ratio has been 50:50 and hardly any couples..
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:23 PM
1

Come on over r/bayareaseddit. If you can!
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:45 AM
1

Sack lair... Lol
/r/seduction20/09/11 09:11 PM
1

See Dicarlo escalation ladder. Also just make sexual jokes or talk about sexual topics like it's no big deal.
/r/seduction20/09/11 05:12 AM
1

A lot of those texts are straight out of there.
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:33 AM
1

Are you seeing a counselor?
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:55 AM
1

Keep trying and little successes will make it more enjoyable, just have to get the ball rolling at first
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:53 AM
1

Sounds like someone read lovesystem's "the ultimate guide". highly recommended for all text questions.
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:38 PM
1

Yeah, isolation is key. or text her in person
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:26 PM
1

Why wouldn't you make it obvious you are hitting on her? At first you set yourself up as a sexual go getter with your line then when she shows up you are now mr nice guy. No wonder she got bored and left.
/r/seduction19/09/11 08:51 PM
1

Yes in college I remember a dude with a turban and he always had hot blonde girls following him around.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:46 PM
5

The alpha analogy can only go so far... it is misguided/over simplified to begin with, don't worry so much about it. Bottom line is confidence > social proof and you can be "Alpha" even if by yourself.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:42 PM
1

Do or say or call yourself whatever you want if it helps make you more confident.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:36 PM
0

Omega needs the pack..it's not a lone wolf. it eats the leftovers and is picked on by the pack.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:29 PM
1

According to wolf pack behavior the omega is the one that follows along the pack behind everyone, is not allowed to socialize with the group and is bullied by the pack, but the alpha keeps track of it nonetheless. I get the point your trying to make but the terminology is not that effective.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:28 PM
5

Have you tried day game and joining clubs/ activities? It's not all about bars especially in a small town. That said if you are unhappy where you live, it might be time to move.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:21 PM
1

Or two shades more casual.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:28 PM
0

Repost/xpost to r/bayareaseddit
/r/seduction19/09/11 07:02 AM
3

If you feel like the conversation is about to stall and you feel like you have framed yourself one way and can't escalate it means it's time to bounce her. Move to a new area of the bar or sit down. You can kino while bouncing and her comfort level will go up. The environment change will reset your frame and re energize the conversation. And your one step closer to bouncing her to your place.
/r/seduction18/09/11 12:21 AM
4

I used to say this but I have better luck saying "you look like you want to kiss me" or "are you going to kiss me now" to flip the script
/r/seduction16/09/11 11:38 PM
2

Always assume attraction
/r/seduction16/09/11 11:33 PM
1

Why would it matter if it wasn't theirs? Just say someone left it, is it yours?
/r/seduction16/09/11 09:10 PM
1

Tldr the article but this is why I embrace approach anxiety. If I feel it, I know I have some real attraction and that is my body telling me that and telling me to act. There's no better relief from that weird feeling than approaching and if you don't, the feeling lingers. We never regret action as much as inaction.
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:16 PM
1

Dude amogs are just people threatened and have to act out to regain their sense of self worth dont waste your time thinking about how to deal with them. You held your frame and increased your targets attraction by being a gentleman and made the amog liok like a huge douche . You should have just tried to isolate the targets after a while and not worry avout the amog.
/r/seduction16/09/11 12:27 AM
10

They want to dance and have a good time not talk on the dance floor. Once you are dancing you can ramp up the kino very heavily if her friends aren't watching all the way to makeout if you are interested. If shes with a group engage them all somehow or they may come "rescue" her
/r/seduction16/09/11 12:22 AM
7

So true for dance floor stuff, girls just start coming up if you are dancing your ass off and having a good time but if you don't act, the initial attraction soon dies and they leave. Next time, force an IOI by pointing, at her or butt bumping her then put your hand out and spin her. If she complies she will start dancing with you
/r/seduction16/09/11 12:18 AM
2

Just own that shit since it already got revealed. Tell her shes so damn hot you had go print it out. should have said thays what you do with with all girls you u meet
/r/seduction15/09/11 07:14 PM
1

Good mentality. It's true, they are a lot more comfortable being forward. Eg they initiate conversation and ask me to dance.
/r/seduction15/09/11 03:44 PM
2

People understand its hard in that situation and will reward you for being friendly.
/r/seduction14/09/11 09:51 PM
1

Go for it! It's the only way to improve, post a report afterwards if you think you need feedback.
/r/seduction14/09/11 09:35 PM
1

I want to be trap them not scare them away.
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:14 AM
4

This is what I was looking for. Thank you.
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:12 AM
2

Almost!
/r/seduction14/09/11 02:56 AM
0

What's wrong with facebook. Clearly not that much of a connection was formed so facebook seems reasonable.
/r/seduction14/09/11 02:55 AM
2

Goddamnit I just shaved!
/r/seduction14/09/11 02:47 AM
3

Nice! You had something you needed help with and you got it.
/r/seduction13/09/11 10:32 PM
1

Assume she is into you.
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:41 PM
5

Have you been to meetup.com?
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:37 PM
1

?
/r/seduction13/09/11 08:35 PM
8

meetup.com always has groups for older women to meet and drink. Stalk those.
/r/seduction13/09/11 07:25 PM
1

Not all "friends" are like that bro.
/r/seduction13/09/11 06:42 PM
1

Read the Sidebar
/r/seduction13/09/11 06:40 PM
2

This is what a confident man who pursues what he likes would do. It is also what a woman dreams will happen so she can have her romantic love story.
/r/seduction13/09/11 06:39 PM
9

One of my friends has a policy to "never say no" and as a result his life is full of crazy awesome adventures.
/r/seduction13/09/11 06:10 PM
1

She was in a bad mood to begin with...
/r/seduction12/09/11 10:44 PM
1

No. It means have an easy way to get home with a girl and find girls that don't live far away so they won't be able to get home or don't hit on the girl that is driving her friends home or make sure she is able to ditch her friends with ease etc.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:41 PM
1

If your standards drop then this is also increasing your desperation. Either way this shit is in your head.
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:26 PM
3

Upvote for wegmans.
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:24 PM
23

That's why we espouse the seducer frame instead of the boyfriend frame to avoid LMR.
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:22 PM
29

This post just improved my life.
/r/seduction09/09/11 10:59 PM
1

There are so many gorgeous women walking on the streets of Manhattan, it's ridiculous.
/r/seduction09/09/11 06:13 PM
1

Hit up BayAreaSeddit when you get out here!
/r/seduction09/09/11 05:45 PM
1

Look up his FRs. He's high all the time in field.
/r/seduction08/09/11 07:33 PM
1

Roleplay
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:55 PM
1

That line is gold.
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:54 PM
2

There are always challenges on the road to greatness.
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:40 PM
3

Beautiful.
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:36 PM
1

Ahh, yeah it just was not the best example it "how you say it vs what you say", and but anyway, props on it working! Probably helps that it's in college..
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:29 AM
3

Dude no big deal. Don't let it phaze you. I Go for it still.
/r/seduction08/09/11 02:34 AM
1

Put it in her butt.
/r/seduction08/09/11 02:33 AM
1

Type her name in and hand over your phone mid conversation.
/r/seduction08/09/11 02:30 AM
2

or you could put a little more effort in than just hollering at girls from a staircase and avoid getting the no to begin with. Sounds like hearing no is normal with this method and pleading your case to get her number isn't that seductive. The number close should be a natural part of your interaction. Anyway, my question was how many numbers have you actually gotten from this stairs routine and how many of those numbers were responsive?
/r/seduction08/09/11 02:29 AM
2

Clear glasses can block uv too
/r/seduction07/09/11 08:16 PM
2

ImKumarYo
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:56 PM
1

Great!.... but don't let your shyness keep from escalating physically
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:10 PM
1

She was not over the ex when she saw you.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:59 PM
1

It can be a pain but you can build some attraction and comfort over time through text/email if you didn't have time when you first met.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:47 PM
0

I used to think facebook or email closes suck but they don't really, also once they offer one form of contact its easy to ask for the number too afterwards. Since you already are typing in their info. My android phone helps me out because contacts with just email and no phone disappear from the list, so I have a reason to always get the phone number. In some cases where more comfort is built than attraction being too direct can make her less willing to share her contact info. In the end i've tri…
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:45 PM
5

And how successful is this?
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:36 PM
1

Push her away, be as awesome as you can be and she may come back to you but at that point you wont care anymore.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:17 PM
2

Go for a bike ride, then drive to the date. Option to close in backseat. Option to go somewhere secluded... dont rule out closing so easily.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:12 PM
1

Fuck off man the opener was gold. :)
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:24 AM
1

Awesome thanks for posting this. By the way I'll always be willing to look like an asshole to make you guys look good haha. I'm really glad you got to try different types of approaches and see what works etc, that's really all that matters in all this, trying things out in field. Keep going and posting FRs, you've got a great start.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:22 AM
3

Thank her for being up front and not wasting your time and money.
/r/seduction07/09/11 02:50 AM
6

Have you been to college?
/r/seduction07/09/11 02:49 AM
1

Do you really need a camera to do this??? I feel like this will only enhance your awkwardness not mitigate it. Have you tried finding a buddy to work with you instead?
/r/seduction07/09/11 02:45 AM
1

Any girl that accepts my physical touch/kino, esp of their hair and face is gonna get kissed. If they reject, it's their fault for not being clear with me, and usually they will kiss me later. K closing can be easy but you realize it can hurt your day 2 prospects sometimes.
/r/seduction06/09/11 10:28 PM
1

I miss college.
/r/seduction06/09/11 09:46 PM
3

After I just f-closed a girl, she told me she thought I was really cute. So I don't think cute and sexy are mutually exclusive as long as you give a sexual vibe. I find also overhearing girls chat they tend to interchange cute and hot pretty frequently. Either way, it doesn't matter, always assume attraction. Any compliment is a big ioi.
/r/seduction06/09/11 09:39 PM
1

Even the greatest puas admit that part of it is always a numbers game
/r/seduction06/09/11 08:18 PM
1

I'm so confused...
/r/seduction06/09/11 08:14 PM
3

Only for a few days then it goes down.
/r/seduction06/09/11 08:12 PM
2

It makes a huge difference. I took a date to two bars yesterday where I'm friends with the female bartenders and you can watch the attraction shoot up, it's a natural dhv, it's like a damn cheat code.
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:23 PM
1

I on the other hand ended up facing LMR/ASD because "i've only know you for six hours and I don't have your number or last name"... Haha in reality it was more like one hour. I had built up a lot of attraction but not comfort since I had basically just talked to her for 15 minutes at the bar before we bounced home. Tried agree and amplify and re escalate "you're right we can't do this " "you should probably go now" to no avail, but I'm sure she's down for another night as she "accidentally" left…
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:20 PM
2

Haha I saw her come in, she saw us making out and turned right around without saying a word.
/r/seduction03/09/11 06:14 PM
3

"you are right. I shouldn't come over because I wouldn't be able to control myself and I'd have to ravish you. "
/r/seduction02/09/11 08:14 PM
1

No, as long as you approach the next time you see her.
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:30 PM
2

Great idea nonetheless!
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:23 PM
2

I think the issue isn't remembering names etc its managing followup texts and pinging etc and follow through to keep the lines of communication open.
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:14 PM
0

It's also decent networking for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction01/09/11 05:44 AM
1

Depending on your college it's guaranteed access to some of the hot women on campus. If you don't already have a big social network, I'd go for it.
/r/seduction01/09/11 05:43 AM
1

It's great that you have the confidence to do this but kissing and hard escalation is for a private place where you can escalate to sex without her being self conscious or seen by others. Try building sexual tension instead by getting close to her face but not actually kissing her.
/r/seduction01/09/11 02:33 AM
1

U wanna be the guy that always is kissing girls on the cheek?
/r/seduction31/08/11 11:32 PM
1

10 days ain't that long.
/r/seduction31/08/11 11:31 PM
7

Noone recommends shorts of any kind on mfa
/r/seduction30/08/11 11:59 PM
-1

Hook up with her asap, then see if you still feel the same.
/r/seduction30/08/11 05:58 PM
2

I agree with the five C's but maybe doing something fun can be added to the list.
/r/seduction29/08/11 10:36 PM
1

When you see something you like, smile.
/r/seduction29/08/11 08:40 PM
1

Drunk easy girls are bad news.
/r/seduction29/08/11 02:48 AM
2

Classic LMR. Lookup standard techniques abd also make sure you are disqualifying yourself from being boyfriend material. If a girl is into you more than fir a single lay she will likel delay sleeping with you on the first date. If you havr abother date its go time though
/r/seduction28/08/11 09:59 PM
2

Here's how to possibly improve the borrowing opener. After hooking and chatting physically and saying you won't give her back, bring her back and return her, thank the girls, start walking away then come back to the original girl and say aww I couldn't leave you. Physical push pull/takeaway. And then the two won't feel like they have to get her back.
/r/seduction28/08/11 05:28 PM
2

No.
/r/seduction28/08/11 05:22 PM
1

I amoged a guy at least a foot and half taller than me and better dressed, looks only matter to yourself. In this case your attitude about it is what needs to be worked on.
/r/seduction28/08/11 04:43 PM
2

Fail enough times you realize it's no big deal.
/r/seduction28/08/11 09:02 AM
2

You should be the one approaching, not waiting to be approached.
/r/seduction28/08/11 04:30 AM
2

Thanks man. Girls seem to love get asked how their night is going for some reason. But yeah the qualifying really did the magic in this set once I had established attraction from the initial plowing.
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:10 AM
1

Appreciate the comment man. I gotta hear how your night went.
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:34 PM
1

Guess what! They are from socal. So maybe that was with the lack of testing.
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:29 PM
1

Plowing wil get you far. It's an easy way for girls to screen away weak guys. So it's also an easy way to create intrigue nd attraction if you don't let it phaze you.
/r/seduction25/08/11 10:17 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction25/08/11 10:15 PM
1

Yeah I did. I think it would have worked because they were both ready to to go somewhere and I had plenty of wings handy. They'd just both have to come!
/r/seduction25/08/11 10:15 PM
1

Shit won't get you laid. That said I use product in my hair everyday because I think my hair looks better styled than not. You don't need gel or wax or pomade if you have a good hair cut. But even then it's all on your personality and your practice to get laid, not your looks.
/r/seduction25/08/11 03:49 AM
1

I'd say evening the tone is already set and its dark.. Thus is easier for the first time.
/r/seduction25/08/11 03:40 AM
0

Send her pictures of your cock.
/r/seduction24/08/11 07:59 PM
1

Never give up!
/r/seduction24/08/11 07:56 PM
2

If you don't do unsectned most colognes have a deodorant with the same smell, it's expensive but IMHO one probably shouldn't be wearing cologne everyday anyway
/r/seduction24/08/11 07:23 PM
2

Lookup boyfriend destroyers.
/r/seduction23/08/11 03:54 PM
2

It's good for getting a read on a girl too. If she gladly accepts you playing with her hair its makeout time.
/r/seduction22/08/11 10:46 PM
1

... Can't... Stop... Laughing!
/r/seduction22/08/11 07:22 PM
5

AKA callback humor
/r/seduction22/08/11 06:39 PM
1

Kino.
/r/seduction21/08/11 01:11 AM
1

Balllerrrr! I'm so confused as to how I never saw you a single time last night.
/r/seduction21/08/11 12:41 AM
1

Who cares if other people have tested it? I It's on you to try things out that are congruent with your personality.
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:35 PM
3

That's why it makes sense for a person to mention the rating when talking about the interaction. Their subjective hb rating gives background into their approach so others can better understand his mindset.
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:31 PM
3

I do something similar, "hey I have a couple minutes to spare, let's talk"or "I'm getting bored, talk to me"
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:04 PM
2

16% nationally for hsv2 seems pretty common to me.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:24 PM
1

Not for herpes?
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:19 PM
1

I teased a girl the other day about her height by accident and she legitimately got upset and also said that's what guys always open her with.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:17 PM
1

It depends on how you present it. Based on what I know of TofuTofu in person, he would say that in a confident way that the fun-ness of it could not be questioned.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:13 PM
5

That feels forced. You should ask her to join for coffee at a peak on conversation where you both have a lot to talk about and doing it over coffee makes sense? Otherwise I would interrupt her halfway thorough and say you were on your way to get coffee and to come along so you can hear the rest of the story. Or just swing by and say you are getting coffee and to come with.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:08 PM
6

One little thing like that will not make a difference in person. Maybe in text where both people have time to over analyze but not in person.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:04 PM
7

Tease her with high fives she has to jump to reach
/r/seduction19/08/11 03:21 AM
4

It's really not that funny
/r/seduction18/08/11 07:37 PM
1

No.
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:44 PM
9

Another point is that girls have better peripheral vision so while you think you aren't being noticed looking at a girl, you are.
/r/seduction17/08/11 08:56 PM
4

Well he said it himself that it's fucking weird to be like him
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:16 PM
6

Not really, but he is borderline sociopathic in his love for approaching women.
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:41 PM
1

Whiter too.
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:39 PM
1

Obviously they wouldn't be so threatening but I'm just saying they would still laugh at you if you attended class then quit before the final and ask for your money back. They would also kick you out if you don't pay and send you to collections if you owe them. If the professors isn't tenured then you can complain on your evaluation but otherwise the dean and the university have the professors back.
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:04 PM
2

That sounds like what would happen if I said I wanted my money back after taking a class I didn't like at a university.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:53 PM
1

Your post doesn't indicate that you didn't receive anything in return? It just shows their heavy handed approach to get their money that they seem to be owed. Maybe you need to clarify because it looks more like you agreed to pay for something and are not doing so. Did they not provide what was agreed upon?
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:51 PM
4

Well for one he has a girlfriend and two kids..
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:26 PM
0

Who scammed who here?
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:15 PM
2

Lookup the rsd hot seat. It's like 300 bucks to watch hours of infield footage of Tyler with analysis. I saw some clips and they were good. I he does alot of hugging and carrying girls and cavemanning. Pulls girls from handshake to slowdance. No really lines but he says shit like "Hey! You! You know how to party".interestingly if he's out of state he tells girls that too.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:12 PM
3

Yes, but not infield except some videos. He gave a free seminar I attended. He's pretty intense but really congruent, talks a little too much(loves hearing himself talk) and says shit that doesn't make any sense if you stop nodding and think for a minute. Still a very motivational speaker.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:09 PM
2

How so?
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:05 PM
2

Great tips and FR. you got it next time for sure
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:04 PM
1

Admitting your nervousness can sometimes work to your favor, if you own it.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:54 PM
11

But playing and failing is still the best way to learn.
/r/seduction12/08/11 07:45 PM
2

I don't think it makes much of a difference but someone in seddit posted about palms down and I do feel it's more commanding. It's more of a I'm pulling you with me vs a will you please dance with me.
/r/seduction11/08/11 12:21 AM
1

I like "who are you???? "
/r/seduction10/08/11 11:29 PM
2

Use the back of the hand/fingers.
/r/seduction10/08/11 11:27 PM
2

I have this same problem. Try forcing an ioi like pointing at a girl, raising a glass for "cheers" or butt bumping her. If she smiles put your hand out palm down and pull her in and twirl her.
/r/seduction10/08/11 11:24 PM
3

If she hooks and is continuing to be engaged and is qualifying, and the attraction part was already taken care of.
/r/seduction10/08/11 04:14 PM
2

Props to NoRegretLife for field testing the duck duck goose opener after TofuTofu suggested it and some minor pushing.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:47 AM
7

Not a big deal at all.
/r/seduction09/08/11 12:42 AM
3

He introduced/winged two other guys into the set and ejected
/r/seduction08/08/11 07:49 PM
2

TofuTofu and I were waiting for you to get blown out so I could go in with the same line!
/r/seduction08/08/11 06:22 PM
1

Kumar and I will be making a separate subreddit for 100set challenge tomorrow.
/r/seduction06/08/11 08:57 PM
1

DO IT. The Bay Area group has been really successful.
/r/seduction06/08/11 05:15 PM
11

yeah or just fucking play with her hair or kiss her, without a line.
/r/seduction05/08/11 09:01 AM
2

My night game challenge is 100 dances with random HBs with zero verbal communication. Hand out. Pull to dance floor. Have horrible AA about this, even though I love dancing.
/r/seduction05/08/11 08:41 AM
2

Um that is for HPV not hsv1/hsv2(herpes... still has no vaccine.) Big difference. Be a bit more thorough in your research because this is important not to be misinformed.
/r/seduction04/08/11 11:13 PM
1

Yeah I'm considering nigjt and day separate. I haven't decided on my night challenge.
/r/seduction04/08/11 09:41 PM
2

Open 100 day game sets. Only counts if its a girl I am interested in and attracted to not just random conversations.
/r/seduction04/08/11 09:27 PM
1

Or you could go to a venue and befriend someone. It's usuly obvious who is good with women. It sounds like a reasonable idea but i wonder if it would really gain any traction since in the beginning so few people would be "checking in"
/r/seduction04/08/11 07:16 PM
1

Whoa, how do you have a herpes vaccination? I thought they were only in research trials...
/r/seduction04/08/11 04:40 PM
1

None of that has really changed basic communication with regards to okcupid/online dating.
/r/seduction03/08/11 10:39 PM
2

FUCK. THAT. BITCH.
/r/seduction03/08/11 07:40 PM
2

What are some of the breakthroughs in electronic communication in the last two years?
/r/seduction03/08/11 05:41 PM
2

Thiat s pretty standard material...
/r/seduction03/08/11 03:14 AM
2

What you are suggesting is just semantics. Whatever it is, it sounds like you are acting responsibly. Carrying Hsv is so common now, its not the end of the world.
/r/seduction03/08/11 03:11 AM
1

Sounds like an epic friendzoning.
/r/seduction02/08/11 12:18 AM
4

Ed hardy, affliction, lots of logos and stitching, tons of hair gel, jeans with lots of embroidery and metal accents. And sunglasses, and always sunglasses.
/r/seduction01/08/11 06:50 PM
2

Easy solution. go talk to a bunch of random people before any date or meeting with friends. That will burn off that 20-30 minute awkwardness. Eventually reduce the amount of random talking you have to do beforehand until it is not necessary at all.
/r/seduction31/07/11 10:27 AM
2

Oh man would you ever want to be with a girl that sounds so much like bad news?
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:28 AM
2

seems pretty standard. it really doesn't matter what you open with as long as you are confident and congruent. have fun.
/r/seduction31/07/11 01:03 AM
2

Have sex.
/r/seduction30/07/11 09:49 PM
13

Yeah there is. It's called self-control.
/r/seduction30/07/11 09:48 PM
5

peacocking.
/r/seduction30/07/11 03:32 AM
1

yes, always
/r/seduction30/07/11 03:31 AM
1

There are different roles men can have that can attract women. 1. The provider--wines and dines and generally takes care of everything 2. the bad boy 3. the nice guy 4. fuckbuddy, 5. soul mate. etc. all of these roles can result in keeping a women depending on her needs at a time. Ideally, you occupy enough of the different roles so she doesn't need a second or third man in her life to provide those roles.
/r/seduction30/07/11 02:22 AM
1

Really? In which case, you are doomed to failure trying to pursue some unobtainable, infallible alpha myth.
/r/seduction30/07/11 02:19 AM
6

Because the general PUA community is often looked upon as misogynistic and homophobic, and comments like yours help perpetuate that myth here on seddit, which I find to be a more enlightened PUA community.
/r/seduction30/07/11 02:18 AM
1

Better check your eyes... and your subconscious.
/r/seduction30/07/11 01:59 AM
9

Why do you have to call him a derogatory word for homosexuals because you dislike his writing style?
/r/seduction30/07/11 01:58 AM
2

I really don't think think there is an order. Ranking it is ridiculous. One it is different for every girl. Two, every person has strengths and weaknesses and that's what make people interesting. Also, your traits are mixed up with "roles" and different roles might have different traits associated with it. If you really want some traits then it's like this: be awesome. don't be un-awesome. Also, how exactly is ranking a list like this supposed to help you?
/r/seduction30/07/11 01:57 AM
1

Bouldering is better because you can talk more and kino more and its less intimidating if they have never climbed.
/r/seduction29/07/11 09:50 PM
1

But with a text you are basically guaranteed that she will see it. If you don't connect by phone, you won't be able to get any word in.
/r/seduction29/07/11 03:28 AM
1

I agree about not going negative and I tried not to be bitter saying it. It was relatively playful and with a smirk. I'm not that interested in following up, it felt like a go with the flow one time thing for me...
/r/seduction28/07/11 08:15 PM
2

Just remembered that I forgot the advice to disqualify as boyfriend material so she doesn't need to engage her ASD.
/r/seduction28/07/11 06:34 PM
1

Love the concept of "highest probability of success"... thanks for putting that into words!
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:28 PM
1

Clingy yes, complementing no.
/r/seduction27/07/11 10:21 PM
1

Meet in person.
/r/seduction27/07/11 04:19 PM
1

Hm well you seemed kind of fit.
/r/seduction27/07/11 04:18 PM
2

When you are dead.
/r/seduction27/07/11 06:51 AM
1

Probably too overt about what you wanted to do. Next time just give her some bogus reason, even if it's obvious you intend to do more. and also, why push against her going to bed by 2, seems pretty reasonable to me. However, a girl that you already f-closed is different. Once one asked me what I wanted to do when we hung out and I responded with "you." and she loved it. OVerall, I think maybe it was a little too much texting. Once you are close to talking about meeting up just set up the time an…
/r/seduction27/07/11 05:59 AM
1

Bootcamps start around 1000-1500...
/r/seduction27/07/11 05:35 AM
2

This is called qualifying a girl. Standard seduction.
/r/seduction27/07/11 05:30 AM
-1

What? We are barely born to be upright... Fuck running
/r/seduction27/07/11 05:29 AM
1

Some people are assholes
/r/seduction26/07/11 05:28 PM
1

you must act like they are out of your league.
/r/seduction26/07/11 05:04 AM
10

it's just like job interviews, talk about specific examples not general abstract concepts.
/r/seduction26/07/11 05:02 AM
-1

nothing.
/r/seduction26/07/11 04:59 AM
1

David Wygant. I feel like all of his advice is based around Whole Foods.
/r/seduction26/07/11 02:26 AM
6

The key to this is to not do online game but get out in the field instead. okcupid is a waste of your time coming out of a relationship. trust me, i was in your situation.
/r/seduction23/07/11 03:28 AM
5

A ctually I think pushing kino is easier outside your social circle because you have no reputation to maintain.
/r/seduction22/07/11 04:13 PM
2

Check out the blueprint decoded. Work on your conversation skills.
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:25 AM
2

Wow, with that attitude towards women and reactiveness that necessitates cursing...I wonder how the girls you are trying to seduce will think of you?
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:23 AM
5

Yeah and even then, sometimes it's just that you were too quick and she will still open up to it a little later.
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:22 AM
-3

k.
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:19 AM
1

This is a horrible attitude. I used to dwell about how I used to be awesome. Really need to start realizing that right now is the best time of your life and it's easy to idealize what has happened in the past because you just remember the good things. I think thinking too much like this is a sign of potential depression.
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:18 AM
80

While I agree with what you are saying, it's sometimes easier to learn this by pushing it too far (and getting some negative feedback from a girl directly) rather than worrying too much about if it will bother someone. I think the worst I have gotten is a girl saying I'm really grabby or touchy. Eventually, you get the hang of what works and doesn't work. But MANY times I have pushed more than I thought was acceptable and it worked to my favor.
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:17 AM
1

It makes it easier to communicate if everyone uses the same well-defined terminology.
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:13 AM
-1

no, bad joke.
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:12 AM
3

Why don't you go do something in real life rather than post anonymously on an internet board?
/r/seduction22/07/11 06:12 AM
1

Dude, this is the most confusing post I have seen recently. You jump from topic to topic omitting all kinds of details expecting us to know what you are talking about. Are you looking for input? Think about how you present yourself a little first.
/r/seduction22/07/11 02:11 AM
1

At this point a lot of "pickup" companies have realized that routines etc are played out, and most are focusing on natural game. The thing about natural game is kind of the lack of obvious "pickup" so, I don't think it's a big deal.
/r/seduction22/07/11 02:09 AM
1

NP. Also i meant pinging to see if still interested a few days later not the night you got it.
/r/seduction21/07/11 10:48 PM
1

Next time tell her instead of asking. Also maybe needd to ping her first to see if the number was responsive. Probably wanted more when she was over before. I'd. Cool off then ping again after a few days.
/r/seduction21/07/11 10:37 PM
2

What the heck? This is very counter to what is usually suggested here. Unless you mean he needs to be a 7 in awesomeness. Anyway a girls looks should never be a deterrent to approach.
/r/seduction21/07/11 10:33 PM
2

?
/r/seduction21/07/11 09:57 PM
17

Just dont mebtion it? Or think of her as one of many girls you are seeing.
/r/seduction21/07/11 12:01 AM
2

Yes and he's referring to the douchey pua alpha male stereotype.
/r/seduction20/07/11 08:50 PM
3

Not everyone has the same views as you on monogamy...
/r/seduction20/07/11 05:54 PM
2

Check out r/polyamory
/r/seduction20/07/11 05:53 PM
2

Dude stop dwelling on shit that already happened.
/r/seduction20/07/11 05:51 PM
7

also, meet new girls.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:31 AM
2

Don't worry too much about these little things and looking for IOIs. Just assume everyone wants you.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:30 AM
1

why does it matter?
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:29 AM
3

Yeah it's pretty shitty, because it gives her a chance to say no. Girls love to make out and have sex but they our stupid culture makes them feel like will be labelled a slut. she's already made it clear that it wouldn't be too serious so just go out and do her already. Just assume she wants you and escalate physically and have sex, then work out the details about FWB etc. It's a lot easier after the fact. ....unless you guys have already had sex, then I guess you can ask, but i really don't see…
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:27 AM
4

Dan Savage understands sex and relationships like no other. He's hilarious live too.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:20 AM
1

Yeah definitely need to not get bad habits and constantly push yourself.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:15 AM
3

It's good as long as you are getting enough sleep and can stay high energy. Otherwise the lack of sleep sometimes fucks with you. 4 nights a week doesn't seem too bad though to see some pretty much guaranteed success. I'd say you'd have to go a minimum of 2-3 times a week to not lose momentum if your focus is on night game. I find 2 times a week to be just barely enough for me to maintain top form.
/r/seduction20/07/11 07:14 AM
5

Great suggestion for life.
/r/seduction20/07/11 04:21 AM
2

Based on your choice of user name and the title of the thread i highly recommend it. I was averse to going for years, then once i went i regretted never going sooner. Its better to sort yourself out before trying to drag people into your life through "seduction".
/r/seduction20/07/11 04:20 AM
1

yeah, it blew my mind the first time I went to the club.
/r/seduction20/07/11 02:34 AM
1

Soooo many excuses! Anyway, next time realize your outfit is in fact peacocking. I'm sure you were getting a lot of attention just by your outfit that you didn't capitalize on.
/r/seduction20/07/11 02:21 AM
3

holy shit, I just realized, I have noticed a lot of guys success pulling girls to the dance floor, and definitely a lot of them go palms down, it definitely makes it more commanding than "inviting". Will field test it next time I'm out dancing. Another tip about dancing is if you get their hand after inviting, have them do some spins, they always come out of the spin dancing harder than they were before.
/r/seduction20/07/11 02:20 AM
3

Some of your issues you have might be best dealt with a counselor. Especially regarding your self esteem and letting small thigns affect you emotionally. Also a big problem is you will never improve conversation if you have the attitutude that " I am just not invested/motivated enough to want to participate in those conversations," ...try to make those conversation less banal and interesting.
/r/seduction20/07/11 02:19 AM
14

Lol at thinking $100 dresses are "high level"
/r/seduction20/07/11 02:09 AM
1

Sometimes for girls you meet drunk its better to have a day 2 that has minimal pressure for sex (like lunch or coffee) Because sometimes the girl feels pressure to put out righy away if they made out with you in a bar.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:38 PM
1

I once had morning day two with very minimal kino but lots of comfort and dhv. Was all worried about it being too friendy. But i played it cool and Day 3 she came over to my place for dinner and f close, and now she ia my fwb.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:36 PM
1

Stereotyping much?
/r/seduction19/07/11 04:58 PM
1

Stereotyping much?
/r/seduction19/07/11 04:58 PM
5

You came off like an asshole to someone just trying to contribute. Upvotes and downvotes determine what is contributing. Just because you are the OP doesn't mean that other people aren't here that might appreciate the comment.
/r/seduction19/07/11 04:56 PM
2

Wow, did you really need to say that?
/r/seduction19/07/11 04:47 PM
2

Reframes her boyfriend as beta.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:56 AM
6

Tl;DR. Yes.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:04 AM
3

Just drop hints about how you aren't looking for anything long term right now or how you are focused on your kids or whatever. Here 's a good article on it.
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:56 AM
1

Just keeping hooking up and see where it goes...
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:21 AM
3

How could I have transitioned from our great start conversationally into something more before we ran out of things to talk about? Kino. Does the fact that she mentioned I should invite mutual friends to our next hangout mean that she friend zoned me because of how our date went? Yes. What is my next step? Meet more women.
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:10 AM
3

Hey, being able to take care of kids on your own is a huge demonstration of value and leadership. Find women that appreciate that and everything you do. There are millions of women out there, so start screening! Of course, it might be a dealbreaker for some girls out there---in that case, disqualify yourself to her about looking for anything long-term and have some short term fun while you keep looking for your ideal partner!
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:06 AM
7

It's only a problem because a lot of Asian men are fed this stereotype and actualize it and only go after asian girls. It's not bad at all if you have balls--and if you are here on r/seduction, you ought to. It's actually easier because it's very easy to make yourself stand out among other Asians. I think at least half of the guys in the Bay Area Seddit lair are asian, and I don't think any of of us feel "handicapped" by it in any way. Best thing to do is to not let this idea even register in yo…
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:01 AM
2

Women, please stop responding if you arent interested or are busy.
/r/seduction19/07/11 01:55 AM
1

Shoot a follow up text with your namr so she can save it and not think a rando is xalling her and not answer.
/r/seduction19/07/11 01:06 AM
1

Sad.
/r/seduction19/07/11 01:04 AM
1

Text. Cant be missed vs having to deal with voicemail.
/r/seduction19/07/11 01:00 AM
1

Whyyyyyy
/r/seduction19/07/11 12:58 AM
1

Tie weights to your tongue and walk around all day.
/r/seduction19/07/11 12:49 AM
1

No. Pick and choose selectively to avoid tldr
/r/seduction19/07/11 12:46 AM
1

Dicarlo escalation ladder.
/r/seduction19/07/11 12:43 AM
1

I doubt any mom or dad would ever say ok to that, super creepy. I'd tell a guy to go fuck off if he asked me that.
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:42 PM
1

"I'd appreciate if you would please stop talking to me... asshole! "
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:40 PM
2

Prove that you dont let anything hold you back from the things you want to do.
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:28 PM
2

Addendum: don't setup early dates that screw you over if you gey stood up.
/r/seduction18/07/11 06:25 PM
1

Upvotes and downvotes determine the purpose of a thread on the reddit hivemind.
/r/seduction18/07/11 04:02 PM
1

No you are not.
/r/seduction18/07/11 03:07 PM
1

Kino is less of a big deal for day game, but some others might disagree.
/r/seduction18/07/11 04:52 AM
4

I thought people might find it interesting to see how r/seduction is perceived outside of r/seduction.
/r/seduction18/07/11 04:40 AM
2

meh, she seems like a pain. If you already have a date planned and you are still at the first few date stage, I see no reason to be in close contact other than maybe some random texting between dates.. you're gonna run out of shit to talk to then in person.
/r/seduction18/07/11 04:13 AM
2

It's not that comment that is the problem, its the seddit bashing that ensued afterwards.
/r/seduction18/07/11 03:45 AM
1

I feel like you are really over thinking and analyzing. All you need is more practice and you will learn the right balance of things.
/r/seduction18/07/11 03:04 AM
24

Agreed, and a lot of "naturals" who go on saying you don't need any techniques while they happen to do them naturally.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:54 AM
1

Just make sure you are not there to be her entertainer but also are interacting with her as a man does to a woman. The easiest way is to be physically escalating throughout.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:53 AM
3

I'm pretty softspoken naturally. Going out to bars really helps because you have to be loud to be heard. After hearing a girl say "what?" "what?" "what?" a few times and then lose interest or ignore you, you start talking louder. Sometimes in the beginning of the night I am still quite and not heard so I just repeat the same thing over and over until I'm heard. "hey.." Hey" "HEY!!!!".
/r/seduction18/07/11 12:06 AM
2

Make 'em laugh, but if that's all you do, you will just be that funny entertaining guy ( a clown).
/r/seduction18/07/11 12:01 AM
7

Return those shoes.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:57 PM
1

Geeat guide, thanks for sharing. I like the analysis of garbage time too.
/r/seduction17/07/11 05:51 PM
2

Yes. In the US schools start their years in August or September after a long summer break.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:03 AM
1

There's a good recent thread somewhere on here about the hb scale and how it can serve the best purpose. Cant find it on my phone but it clarifies all the confusion.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:52 PM
1

I stilll havenr read the game but i imagine Its been refined from the old days.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:43 PM
1

Its a numeric scale of a girls perceived self worth and value. High =approached all the time, likeley smoking hot, high botch shield, low = easy to approach, friendly, but they could still be hot.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:21 PM
1

This an incorrect definition of the hb scale. Read the sidebar.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:19 PM
1

Wow, for the longest time I was intj/intp. 4 months of seddit and now im enfj!
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:06 PM
2

Happens. Its experience. you learn from your mistakes. At least you now can recognize them. Now find new women to get back in that situation and close like a boss.
/r/seduction15/07/11 05:42 PM
2

Love that guy.
/r/seduction15/07/11 05:40 PM
2

I have been suffering from k-close only day 2s. Gotta escalate sooner and harder.
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:53 PM
1

Go make a bunch of mistakes, then youll learn!
/r/seduction14/07/11 11:33 PM
4

Conversation threading. Google it.
/r/seduction14/07/11 09:45 PM
1

Practice.
/r/seduction14/07/11 09:44 PM
2

Shit's a felony here in CA.
/r/seduction14/07/11 05:43 AM
2

try to get the number of age in kisses on the lips not on the cheek! it don't matta, it's yo birthday! the cheek is too easy ;)
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:47 AM
1

Ive been waiting for a girl to ask me to buy them a drink and then bring them back some water.
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:18 AM
4

Damn shit happened to me too #closed this girl with melon sized knockers and after bantering over text a bit she texts me "i'm only 16... problem? " while a troll face popped into my mind.
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:17 AM
2

Accompany her on her side of the car as if to get the door for her then get between her and the car.
/r/seduction13/07/11 01:36 AM
5

meh it can also lower your standards...
/r/seduction12/07/11 05:37 AM
3

Heard of beer goggles?
/r/seduction12/07/11 05:37 AM
1

Just focus on having fun, dont stress yourself out.!
/r/seduction12/07/11 04:50 AM
4

What, maybe she just wanted to be in a proper sex location first
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:23 AM
1

Solid guide!
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:54 AM
1

I have a feelingg you missed a lot if the basics of seduction.
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:44 AM
2

Biggest dlv text ever
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:43 AM
1

Why bother? Its kind of late now and you already had the chance before.
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:41 AM
1

yeah, althought I'm thinking club game not rave.. at raves its kind of about dancing on your own.. but you could still dance with someone holding hands and then just calibrated based on the interest she is showing..
/r/seduction10/07/11 02:59 AM
2

What? That is the weirdest setup I have heard hahah.
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:29 AM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/malegrooming/
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:24 AM
2

Yeah, that is in a way the definition of the HB scale. At lower levels of the HB scale, you don't have to really use any game.
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:23 AM
1

If you are dancing your ass off, you will find that girls start moving towards you are are end up in front of you. Make eye contact-- if reciprocated, offer a hand out and ask to dance. Then dance -> kino -> make out.
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:22 AM
4

awesome sauce.
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:20 AM
1

Electric razors often have a little beard trimmer attachment or something. I used that to maintain my stubbly beard. It brings it to a short length but doesn't clean it off. Also I think there is a male grooming subreddit somewhere.
/r/seduction10/07/11 01:17 AM
1

It's really all about going out and practicing and seeing what works and doesn't work. If you have followed PU material for a few years, you have read everything you need already. Oh and have as much fun as possible!
/r/seduction09/07/11 05:35 PM
0

In bigger citiez you might have better luck but otherwise i felt like noone spoke English.
/r/seduction08/07/11 07:26 PM
28

Like crying.
/r/seduction08/07/11 07:24 PM
1

There's your opinion opener for the next year.
/r/seduction08/07/11 02:43 PM
2

Anything from David Wygant and also look up Jeremy Soul.
/r/seduction08/07/11 06:13 AM
2

I personally hate using this line because it feels so pickup-y. Then again, it doesn't matter what you open with. I have seen it work really well with some girls that are willing to be playful but get blownout with lower energy or older girls though. I feel like a lot of girls hear this and "which one of you is the bad/naughty/evil one" etc. since it's in some pickup literature. I'd rather go with some natural thing than something that feels too canned and has kind of a 50% hit rate.
/r/seduction08/07/11 06:12 AM
1

Suggest some times that work for you not asking.
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:27 AM
2

Dont drag jokes on too long, they will get boring. Otherwise its nice and playful.
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:26 AM
10

I dont get this chin in thing, i keep my chin up
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:24 AM
1

Nightclubs with dancing are better solo i think.
/r/seduction08/07/11 01:22 AM
2

I like how someone liked her rejection.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:42 PM
3

Kino escalation and sexualize the conversation early. High risk = high reward.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:41 PM
2

Don't fart.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:37 PM
4

Like it. Greay way to turn around her being busy.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:17 PM
1

What do you like? Jameson on the rocks is good and all bars will have it.
/r/seduction07/07/11 06:48 PM
1

Thanks for sharing this!
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:20 PM
1

Kind of regret passing this up. So the material was really good? Was it mostly of tyler?
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:15 PM
1

Water after every dribk and avoid beer and sugary drinks that promote bacterial growth. Shots should be fine and alot of girls enjoy the scent of whiskey too.
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:10 PM
2

R/sENTduction
/r/seduction06/07/11 10:13 PM
3

Its got some interesting reviews of bootcamps. I just found it recently and there are some funny and apt criticisms of several pua ideologies. It's also full of trolls and crazy anti pua women.
/r/seduction06/07/11 09:11 PM
1

More specifically, pre-selection.
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:50 PM
1

Well..no, the hb scale is about her perceived self worth so its not exactly about treating a woman like an object...
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:48 PM
1

That still shows you are a likable social person especiallt if you even say you just met them.
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:41 PM
2

A typical boy friend destroyer is to just be positive and keep saying things like " wow he is a great guy" "he sounds really nice" etc and she will start having doubts about it. generally compliment him on his AFC behaviors and downplay any alpha characteristics. That being said, I'd rather you didn't try too hard and just be cool and wait until things end on their own rather than getting involved.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:12 AM
2

man, you should really read about being nonreactive....
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:07 AM
3

wow, a town with no girls? crazy, so everyone is male, gay, single, unmarried etc?
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:07 AM
4

check out the texting guide from lovesystems.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:06 AM
1

Do you also lie to girls about how popular you are, how many hot friends you have etc?
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:04 AM
30

I'm disappointed by how many people have posted saying they support this. The fact that you have enough time to think about this, do this, then discuss it here means you are doing this whole seduction thing wrong. Of course this works well, it's called pre-selection, but when it catches up with you and girls realize that you aren't the guy that all these women are interested in (and they are good at catching it..that's basically their modus operandi with shit tests etc) you will fall.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:03 AM
22

you're doing the right thing.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:59 AM
0

no
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:57 AM
1

isn't having a friend a little different than pretending to have a friend?
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:57 AM
2

good choice on username!
/r/seduction05/07/11 02:54 AM
2

ahh. thanks for giving me a term to label that idea "sunk cost fallacy". Sometimes I get caught up after realizing i sent a crappy text but thinking about it is only gonna make me more lame!
/r/seduction05/07/11 12:55 AM
19

It's a little creepy to "surprise" someone like that... if you had plans from the beginning, should have just let on right away..
/r/seduction04/07/11 08:06 PM
4

go on meetup.com and follow groups of single older women. go to whatever bars they are meeting at.
/r/seduction04/07/11 01:31 AM
0

define bigger.
/r/seduction02/07/11 11:28 PM
1

These are the questions the girl will be asking in her head when you ask this. Nice job showing how effective this line is.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:50 PM
2

His focus is more on natural day game so his strategies are a bit different. There really is no one authoritative method.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:47 PM
6

just get physical slowly and subtly, eventually his boner will take control.
/r/seduction01/07/11 06:22 AM
1

I mean yeah it's fake if you think of it that way, but your paying for a service. It's just a solid outlet to get your thoughts out in words that might otherwise stew in your head. Sure it might feel like crap sometimes or feel frustrated but if you keep it inside it will manifest itself in more self-destructive ways, subconsciously. The more you talk about it, the more you are likely to come of with solutions, at the same time, you realize it's not all about finding solutions, but becoming bett…
/r/seduction01/07/11 06:20 AM
2

why
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:54 AM
3

Say HI.. then see her response... don't sit around guessing what could happen.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:53 AM
1

Not now, but I have in the past and they were invaluable to me. I did have a falling out with one of mine until we had a discussion about what wasnt working.
/r/seduction28/06/11 02:31 AM
2

so two things I'm going to address here 1. that you can easily gain some weight and become more manly and 2. your attitude towards things so I'm about your same height but I used to weight about 15 pounds less than you, and i felt and looked small and puny. I started working out using Starting Strength and eating like a mad man, after a year or two I weighed 35 pounds more than you, I then looked and felt like a man. Lifting heavy (Squats, deadlifts) will boost your testosterone, likely lower yo…
/r/seduction27/06/11 01:29 AM
1

Lol, I like how your advice to be natural is to pretend to get a phone call and make up a story. But yeah, eventually you won't have to do that once you are a natural.
/r/seduction27/06/11 01:21 AM
3

Book of Pook.
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:16 AM
3

The balls you need to grow are to get over this girl with which you clearly are in the deep friend zone.
/r/seduction24/06/11 10:22 AM
1

Just try random shit out, this is thevtype of thing you just need tdevelo your own routines with by trial and error. Try and be normal don't come off as that guy trying to pick up chicks using his dog..
/r/seduction24/06/11 10:15 AM
2

Sometimes this is the case but not always.. especially if you start reasoning and justifying inaction. I think eventually you just want to eliminate doubt and either just act or dont. Often times I doubt whether I should say something because I think I'd push it too far then I say fuck it and say it.
/r/seduction23/06/11 08:30 PM
-5

"1. 5 inches, can you handle it? "
/r/seduction23/06/11 06:05 PM
3

um, look up Jeremy soul.
/r/seduction23/06/11 05:25 AM
1

you are lucky living near a good bar. become a regular there, get to know the bartenders by going early in the night and then when you go in the night you will have great social proof/you will have the bar staff to hang with and get better service. you will have all the social proof needed to demonstrate value. You could probably just go there on the weekend, sit by the bar and just talk with the staff all day and you will get enough attention / proximity IOIs by the end of the night you won't k…
/r/seduction23/06/11 05:19 AM
1

Find a new one!
/r/seduction22/06/11 05:01 AM
1

She blew you out.
/r/seduction22/06/11 12:46 AM
1

Forget about girls and find someone to help you with depression. If you aren't already, see a counselor, please!
/r/seduction22/06/11 12:42 AM
3

Awesome. it's great you are at that stage now after all that hard work and determination. One trap I think you need to avoid is the "I did all this, i got healthy, worked out so now I expect everything to fall into place" You will have to use the same mentality you did to come where you are now with women. At the same time, don't let any early rejections or failures affect the strong frame you have built up now. You are now the prize :)
/r/seduction21/06/11 04:59 AM
1

If that is how you feel then there are other things you need to work on before seduction. You gotta love yourself before anyone will. See a counselor.
/r/seduction20/06/11 11:11 PM
1

Where are these posts that says women are more attracted to these physical and social types you speak of? That sounds very uncharacteristic of seddit.
/r/seduction20/06/11 07:42 PM
2

This is bad. Try to find things within yourself that make you feel positive. Also positively reinforce yourself when you are in state by doing cool thibgs.
/r/seduction20/06/11 07:28 PM
11

That is what being in state is, and you should try and get that state as much as possible. Remembering times that you were awesome or succesful helps.
/r/seduction20/06/11 06:12 PM
2

How so?
/r/seduction20/06/11 06:10 PM
2

I did not get anything from this article.
/r/seduction20/06/11 04:55 PM
1

Americorps
/r/seduction18/06/11 06:04 PM
2

What? Why the fuck would glasses be detrimental to game??? Like yokhai says, Just the fact that your are asking means you need to study up on inner game. PS I get compliments on my glasses all the time from HBs.
/r/seduction18/06/11 05:56 PM
1

You are a little too focused on kino. After a while you realze you can build physical tension without kino. And not all girls respond the same way. While she seems to have her own issues, realize that some girls will be fine with minimal kino or take a long time to open up.
/r/seduction17/06/11 08:35 PM
1

Handful of guys are coming to sf tonight from south bay, maybe hitch a ride? They do south bay every Thursday as well. PM me your email to get on the contact list.
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:08 PM
1

Are you on r/Bayareaseddit??
/r/seduction17/06/11 06:37 PM
-1

You'll know when you put your tongue in your mouth.
/r/seduction17/06/11 05:25 PM
1

You must come off as trying too hard/incongruent
/r/seduction17/06/11 04:32 PM
3

Get over any hangups about less attractive girls.... then go for less attractive girls then work your way up.
/r/seduction17/06/11 04:17 PM
4

It was beautiful.
/r/seduction17/06/11 02:36 PM
1

:) I actually read that advice on some pua article about confidence...
/r/seduction17/06/11 02:30 PM
3

Next time, get the number before you leave!
/r/seduction17/06/11 02:09 AM
2

Have sex first. Then keep doing it while disqualifying the idea of a relationship.
/r/seduction17/06/11 12:18 AM
2

Wow, had no idea thank you for pointing that out!
/r/seduction16/06/11 10:39 PM
3

Protip: next time send something funny about your conversations instead of it was nice to meet you.
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:33 PM
2

Start a seddit lair. Or talk to guys at bars that are obviously peacocking. If they have solid game they will appreciate the social proof.
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:15 PM
2

So it's the ultimate form of peacocking... although you may not have realized it, I'm sure girls were noticing you. Guys with too much muscle are often compensating for their lack of personality.
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:12 PM
1

Well, bar game is not for everyone. It just happens to be a place where lots of single people gather and is thought of in general as a training ground for men to interact with women... But it's not just about desensitizing but also changing what your doing until it works.
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:09 PM
1

Finding solo girls at any bar is a rare, rare treat my friend.
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:04 PM
2

It's funny, because I find bar game so much less intimidating because 1. everyone is at a bar and trying to be social (or else they could be at home and drink) and 2. people are drinking so no-one gives a shit. and 3. you probably won't see these people again. also, what are you doing checking out all the guys? How were the GIRLS???? It can be intimidating at first but as you start having small successes and also keep going repeatedly it stops being intimidating.
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:17 AM
5

I disagree, confidence alone will get you so much further than looks. I see lots of attractive guys that either suck at game, are obnoxious, or still shy and not approaching people.
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:15 AM
2

There is no magic bullet for this. It takes practice and continually talking to hotter and cooler girls so that it stops becoming a big deal. Also, try to forget that you like her and think of her as a friend if it is affecting your game.
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:22 AM
2

Pretend she has an STD.
/r/seduction16/06/11 02:57 AM
2

This can lead to drinking too much and losing your game skills..
/r/seduction16/06/11 02:57 AM
2

if you are a student or look like one, there is less screening they need to do of you so things should be easier.
/r/seduction16/06/11 02:53 AM
1

oh oops, i must have left before they said that, I left when they started talking $...
/r/seduction16/06/11 02:30 AM
1

Who relies on business provided testimonials anyway? The proof is in his free articles and videos....Almost all businesses use stock photos not just for convenience but privacy too.
/r/seduction15/06/11 09:17 PM
2

Sorry about this, the rest of us that actually care about improving ourselves still appreciate your answers.
/r/seduction15/06/11 09:15 PM
3

If someone calls you something... don't ask why. Own that shit, agree and amplify!
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:31 PM
1

Here to confirm you are half decent ;)
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:04 PM
1

I'd have to disagree. Comfort and rapport are built through shared emotions which lead to real connections that reduce flaking.
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:03 PM
1

Um no. Being alpha I expressing your emotions. Plus women are emotional not logical. Talk about desires, goals and experiences are all ways to bring emotion in to a conversation. Being nonreactive means not letting anyone control your emotional state without your permission.
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:01 PM
1

Careful. You are doing most things right and I think it sounds like you have potential to be a natural but you are overthinking and doubting yourself. Assume attraction. If anything it sounds like you have attraction down and some with comfort. Now that she has been to your place once it won't be hard to bring here there again. Don't think you have to push hard kino/sex right away with everyone, it depends on the girl. Sounds like she likes you but doesn't want to look slutty or easy but can't h…
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:57 PM
2

If you do eject on a high note, find them later and be super excited, girls like social proof too. Ejecting early happens but with experience you find you can plow and stay much longer. Isolating would have been tough without a wing so ejecting then find one by later would not have been a bad strategy. Eject when they bother you by being boring not the other way. You approach but remember you are the skeptical buyer. If it's a big enough venue I won't eject because the girl wants to until I've l…
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:42 PM
8

Here's a line I stole from ImKumarYo for when you get those cues to leave. "I'm gonna take that as my cue to leave... (dramatic pause) ... and completely ignore it. " either they will laugh and hook or you are in the same situation. It shows you understand social cues yet don't give a fuck and have balls.
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:20 PM
1

yeah for day time you get the added benefit that most guys don't approach or have the confidence to own the fact that they are approaching because they were attracted to them.
/r/seduction15/06/11 09:32 AM
2

awesome, love your AMOG tactics.
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:16 AM
1

nothing too engrossing
/r/seduction15/06/11 05:47 AM
1

It works, but you need to have a solid frame and confidence to pull it off(which is how I'd describe ImKumarYo in person). Otherwise you will come off as every AFC guy who is like "wow you are really hot can i buy you a drink and can you walk all over me and walk away thanks!!"
/r/seduction15/06/11 03:06 AM
1

Well, I'm glad to hear I do the last three things you mentioned. Specifically this past weekend, I was with a girl and had my hand in her back pocket, squeezing her butt or touching her hair, slow dancing randomly etc and I went for the kiss. It was initially denied but by the end of the night when saying goodbye we exchanged a few kisses, but she refused to make out... I feel like I could have maybe built up some more tension before the kisses to escalate it to making out. Although, I do feel s…
/r/seduction15/06/11 03:01 AM
1

I just had to say I am in the exact same situation (out of grad school, dated 1 girl, now in a new city) you were in when you started your pickup career. So, you're basically my role model now.
/r/seduction15/06/11 02:52 AM
2

Could you speak more about asking a girl if they want to come how with you after talking 15 minutes? What frame are you setting when you do it?
/r/seduction15/06/11 02:33 AM
1

Hello, thanks for doing this. One place that is sticking for me right now is that I can do well getting physical with a girl at bar etc and them being receptive, but I'm not succeeding in building enough physical/sexual tension, so that I tend to feel like I'm pursuing. Obviously things are on a case by case basis but do you have any tips for overcoming that hurdle?
/r/seduction15/06/11 02:25 AM
1

Pm the mods.
/r/seduction14/06/11 03:16 PM
4

I like it. It conceals the interview-ness of the question and it does double duty as a qualifier as well.
/r/seduction14/06/11 06:29 AM
2

really solid list.
/r/seduction14/06/11 06:27 AM
3

I know a lot of us send an immediate text with some callback humor and also ending it with your name so they have your name in their phone, this way you don't the "who's this" conversation to ruin your momentum when you do followup. At least this is my method for bars and stuff, I think it helps when you followup when you already have a conversation thread in her phone.
/r/seduction14/06/11 06:26 AM
5

Thanks, I've been having trouble with this step. Saved me from start my own thread.
/r/seduction14/06/11 06:22 AM
3

Sounds awesome and she sounds down. It seems like a case of "don't do anything to fuck it up". It also sounds like she is more comfortable playing with your wife so I would maybe focus your attention on your wife while the two ladies play. This might be a good question for r/sex.
/r/seduction14/06/11 05:12 AM
6

cooking a meal together is an awesome day 2. have some wine while you do it. field tested.
/r/seduction14/06/11 05:07 AM
2

Could you write the TLDR version before the questions?
/r/seduction14/06/11 04:02 AM
2

definitely had to take some for the team in the past, but what goes around comes around! Plus it is really good practice to try and be charming when you have zero interest.
/r/seduction14/06/11 04:01 AM
2

Yeah some of the advice is being given is very "seduction" heavy, but this is more of a "Inner Game" topic. Look into that and it will help you out on changing your outlook for social interaction. See David Wygant or Tyler Durden/Blueprint decoded
/r/seduction14/06/11 03:51 AM
1

um luckily men don't age as drastically as women do and there is less taboo for a girl to date an older guy, so you'll be fine. Biologically, we can procreate for a very long time...so I'm guessing even Caveman were chasing tail until they died. Dwelling in the past won't help you in any way. Especially at your age, you are in the "21-35" age group where if you are single everyone sees you as the same experience as anyone else, unless you blatantly make it obvious. Also, think about people who w…
/r/seduction14/06/11 02:09 AM
11

In fact, gaming without trying to get laid is the best way to game. Just go out to make friends with tons of hot girls. If anything this will make your girl like you more because of the jealousy. A big part of game is opening everyone so if people see you talking to both men and women they will just think you are a social guy, not some sketchy pickup guy cheating on his girlfriend.
/r/seduction14/06/11 02:04 AM
14

You're getting flak for recording your dates but honestly that's not a bad idea. You probably can get the best feedback on your dates by actually listening to your conversation vs remembering things. It's like athletics.. one video can show you a million things wrong with your form that you would have never noticed without that new perspective.
/r/seduction14/06/11 01:49 AM
3

"I have to go find my girlfriend" "stop, I have a girlfriend and her friends are here"
/r/seduction14/06/11 01:46 AM
2

I'm not gonna go and take a camera out all the time and then go home and edit the faces out and upload them just so people will believe my FRs. I could care less if people believe them or not...not that mine are that hard to believe anyway.
/r/seduction14/06/11 01:45 AM
2

All the Bayareaseddit frs are lair verified. Also what does anyone have to gain by lying on a fr? its not like its improving your social proof in the real world.
/r/seduction13/06/11 10:45 PM
2

For some reason I assumed you meant that you had broken up. Just tell her to get dressed up but don't tell her what you are doing and take her to a ballet or some experience you know she wants. Have everything planned well.
/r/seduction13/06/11 10:38 PM
1

Okcupid data says guys that don't smile in their pics get more attention on okc.
/r/seduction13/06/11 08:00 PM
9

First remove any line of thinking in your brain that considers approaching a woman to be creepy or it will actualize in your behavior.
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:57 PM
1

In that case don't let them touch it. Charge admission, five dollars or they have to do about spin and curtsy. Give them hoops to jump through first.
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:29 PM
3

I love how opposite this approach was to my indirect observational/situational opener and how we were both succesful.
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:26 PM
3

If people are making comments then think of funny responses. Then do everything as usual. There isn't much more to do that you are already doing. read up about peacocking.
/r/seduction13/06/11 12:33 AM
7

holy shit, this woman is crazy.
/r/seduction12/06/11 11:30 PM
2

I love when the interviewer starts getting super amogged and uncomfortable when the guy starts howling.
/r/seduction12/06/11 11:25 PM
7

seriously true. All the guys that act all tough and douchey and front all the time...quality girls see right through that.
/r/seduction12/06/11 08:47 PM
15

Nice try, CEO of couchsurfing.com
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:13 PM
2

yeah but sometimes girls just don't want to be the one that initiated the kissing and so won't say yes. Go for the kiss and get rejected instead of just ejecting when you ask her.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:10 PM
2

what???? if she rejects you, you dont make a big deal of it, and she will be more into you.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:09 PM
-2

15 rejections is a lot, most likely the OP.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:06 PM
6

yeah it is very accusatory and also not something people would want to volunteer with a stranger. also, if they are rolling, just start bumping into them. lol.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:05 PM
-9

it's also stupid if you are doing the same thing every time.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:04 PM
1

While facing rejection is a big part of improving, you also need to look at what is working and not working and try to improve things. Like, if you just continue to do the same thing over and over its not going to help you, you need to keep changing things up until you get the successes you desire.
/r/seduction12/06/11 06:03 PM
2

An HB10 by definition wouldn't be opening with a compliment. :p
/r/seduction12/06/11 03:33 PM
5

Not getting butthurt about a rejected kiss builds tons of attraction. It shows you are confident, dominant, sexual and unreactive. If you play it cool, it's almost a guarantees kiss later, as long as she had given you enough iois and passed enough compliance tests that attempting the failed kiss is warranted. All of my rejected kisses have led to kisses later in the night.
/r/seduction12/06/11 10:38 AM
5

What a most unHB10 like comment.
/r/seduction12/06/11 10:31 AM
1

maybe hang outside? get them on the way in/out?
/r/seduction11/06/11 05:58 PM
2

They certainly think they are much better than they are and talk a bit too much in the videos but it still pretty good. body language is a bit off in general, also they don't really show where any of the interactions go.. it's like they cut them off before they got blownout. I'd believe them a bit more if they showed them # closing. If you want to see really solid day game videos, look up Jeremy Soul. He is proven. Also, he does run after them and tap them or grab their shoulder. In general, you…
/r/seduction11/06/11 05:56 PM
2

hmm, you can compliment girls without losing your frame...obviously you were doing something right if you still hooked up...lucky bastard
/r/seduction11/06/11 05:19 PM
9

as long as you don't live in a tiny ass town.
/r/seduction11/06/11 05:16 PM
2

The hb scale is used by the pua community to describe a girls self perceived worth so it's easier to communicate what type of approach is necessary. For example a hot girl in a big group getting hit on and rejecting guys all night might be a hb8. On the otherhand, the same girl on a different night with just one other friend not at a bar might not be getting as much attention and be a HB6. In the first case a high energy indirect approach might be necessary while in the second direct might be be…
/r/seduction11/06/11 04:56 PM
1

Maybe they are getting too much of a sense of you trying to sell yourself? User the direct open merely as a way to justify your opener then switch to screening her and being slightly skeptical of her worth beyond your initial attraction.
/r/seduction11/06/11 10:25 AM
3

You can't tell hb status by a picture.
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:56 PM
1

Giving your number can bring down her "online sketchiness factor" and then if she is interested she will give hers back. Either way, take it out of the internet and into phone/text and then setup a meet-up asap!
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:48 AM
2

yeah it is. What do you want from her? What do you want to do with her? Then take whatever steps you need to do that!
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:47 AM
3

When she says things like ""I wish I could be single for a night, like HB7!"" and then taking off her shirt to wear a bikini... I don't really see the blame falling on anyone but her...
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:33 AM
1

wow, maybe for you but this is definitely not the case for all people. While I have puked from doing, doing copious amounts of both was the norm in college and it was definitely not as disastrous as you describe...
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:21 AM
13

Clearly the boyfriend and the girl don't have that great of a relationship. And he didn't actively pursue the girl.
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:20 AM
3

This is just an excuse you tell yourself to explain why you aren't having the success you desire. Looks among other things like money or being famous can get you attention, but that is it. A hot guy who is unconfident and afraid to escalate will get blown away just as fast as an average looking guy. On the other hand, an average looking guy who is the center of attention will look great. Confidence adds to your attractiveness and perceived height. When you are in state and chatting with babes, t…
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:20 AM
1

If she's shy you could have some games or activities to take the focus off conversation... but ones that will increase rapport or opportunities for kino. Good luck!
/r/seduction08/06/11 05:35 PM
2

Damn, this ends in rapport, not sex.
/r/seduction08/06/11 04:03 AM
2

lol, this makes me wanna restart okcupid.
/r/seduction08/06/11 03:53 AM
1

I agree with what you are saying but the direct approach is one taught by much of the pua community particularly for day game where it is most unexpected. "do you know where the _ is? Actually I just thought you were cute and wanted to meet you" is like a staple opener.
/r/seduction07/06/11 11:49 PM
1

Meet early in the day so its less sex-oriented. Just find something you enjoy or is part of your routine and invite her.
/r/seduction07/06/11 09:51 PM
3

Go on..
/r/seduction07/06/11 07:38 PM
1

Girls seem to always ignore my first text beyond the initial text after meeting. But it doesn't matter because I sent a random text that puts no pressure on the girl and has no questions. Usually the next text is better received. I think persistence is actually key for text game, I mean it is like zero time and impact on you to send some followups here and there until you know for sure you have run it to the ground. Also, sometimes I flake on girls for real reasons so I just go ahead and assume …
/r/seduction07/06/11 05:54 AM
1

Still haven't read it.
/r/seduction07/06/11 05:49 AM
1

and how are they supposed to get paid?
/r/seduction07/06/11 05:47 AM
0

Live in a dump somewhere in NYC.
/r/seduction07/06/11 05:47 AM
1

Yeah, it can be a little hard to reach though depending on what position you are in. It's another way to get around it seeming like you are pushing things too fast. Basically you are just grabbing her but under her underwear, then reaching a bit further, I don't think you can do that much from that angle though before switching to the front or taking off her underwear.
/r/seduction06/06/11 03:08 AM
1

One of the male archetypes that women are attracted to is the provider role. It just means they will be getting their fun and excitement elsewhere. Sure having money can't hurt, but it's not going to get girls to like you anymore, if you don't work on your own skills with women they will just be using you for the money.
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:20 AM
3

ahh, this was me when I first discovered this subreddit. it is an amazing place. YOU keep up the good work!
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:17 AM
2

Such an alpha role mode promoting having skills, hard work, clear communicator, focus on value. Thanks for sharing.
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:15 AM
2

Um yes. Smile.
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:15 AM
1

Find new people to hang out with... Clearly being treated like a lame duck makes you feel bad so it is affecting your inner game..
/r/seduction06/06/11 01:13 AM
1

its basically a scale of 5-10. HB5 is like where you say hello and she is all over you.
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:03 PM
1

Like the line, as long as its not so loud no-one can hear.
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:02 PM
2

exactly, and next time you are in a similar situation, you will be much more comfortable.
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:01 PM
2

nah, that gives her the option of saying no. A better statement would be "you look like you want me to kiss you"
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:00 PM
1

Yeah weed, affects my initial game, but if you are comfortable with the girl then it's pretty awesome. 21 questions sounds really hard high. I would NOT beat yourself about how this went. You live and learn. It's not the end of the world if you don't escalate, as long as she is interested you can escalate further next time. Another issue is you focus on "making a move". It should be a gradual process so that hooking up is natural, spontaneous and "it just happened" even if that is what you were …
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:53 PM
6

Sounds like you could have suggested just going for a drive somewhere rather than pushing going to her place too much then worked her up so she had to go to her place or yours with you. The fact that she texted you the next morning after you had made it clear you wanted to go to her place that night means she's definitely interested. She was giving the run around so it was good you just cut it for the night. It probably not worth going out at 1am anyway. Your later texts were pretty funny, but t…
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:50 PM
2

I like it except it comes off a little overly cocky, it gets a little repetitive but that could still work for you. IANAHB
/r/seduction05/06/11 08:20 PM
1

Then obviously you do something else. Change topics, ask a question, make a statement, leave, find someone else to talk to.
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:22 PM
1

Practice...open more sets!
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:03 PM
2

What about opening sets to warmup, or opening sets to build social proof? Or to just make friends? It's not always about #kf-closing.
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:03 PM
3

Um going for the kiss would be somewhat uncalibrated. Yes it's ballsy but unless you've been getting some solid IOIs and she is passing your compliance test, I'm not sure I would suggest the OP to do this if his problem is maintaining conversation. Also, girls usually want to be isolated first before kissing.
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:02 PM
1

Even with a lot of comfort it can cause issues if they then feel like there is a lot of pressure to have sex right away.
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:00 PM
3

U:What crappy weather! HB: OMG I know I was supposed to hiking this weekend with my sister but I had to stay inside all weekend. Now you can talk bring up hiking, her sister, her other weekend plans, where she stayed inside. Take point of things she mentions and bring them up later in any lull...so if you followed then talked about hiking for a while and sputtered out you can say "oh yeah so you were saying you had a sister? I have one too, but she's a huge brat!"
/r/seduction05/06/11 05:59 PM
1

They usually deliver to the room and also take away any old mattresses you don't want. anyway, have fun with the threesome!
/r/seduction05/06/11 05:49 PM
0

Yeah i think I agree. Always be escalating!
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:54 AM
1

I'm not sure I would pay so much much for what is described, but it sounds like it was really beneficial to you. Was there any material you couldn't just get off the internet/seddit? Furthermore, it seems like it mainly got you and others to approach a lot of sets and worked on approach anxiety. Did people who already were passed the problem of opening tons of sets have a different experience with what they gained?
/r/seduction05/06/11 03:12 AM
0

"We're not going back to your apartment?" "No, you need to get back and get to sleep." *facepalm at the same time. kind of boss to turn her down. anyway, I'd like to see if you have another date etc. Because stuff like admitting you have been there a year and not had a kiss seems kind of DLV.
/r/seduction05/06/11 03:05 AM
3

You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
/r/seduction05/06/11 03:02 AM
3

Men lead, men take initiative, men approach.
/r/seduction05/06/11 02:39 AM
1

Most mattress stores offer free delivery and setup. also the whole mattress buying is a negotiation. Usually you can get a free frame and if you don't mind floor models they will discount further. You could probably gotten a cheap non foam spring mattress delivered for $500. Its especially easy if you know your max price.
/r/seduction02/06/11 09:28 PM
1

Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Text and Phone game. Can't recommend it enough.
/r/seduction02/06/11 08:49 PM
1

It means you have a playful, teasing and fun relationship with someone
/r/seduction01/06/11 08:35 PM
1

Well doing something over and over without thinking about what's working and not working is pointless. Evaluate what you did and didn't do each time and pick something new to work on the next time. Pick small things to try. Forget about pickup and just try to make a friend or get some new info from people. My main point was to never give up trying.
/r/seduction01/06/11 08:23 PM
1

It can take practice to be comfortable in a bar and to understand and not be overwhelmed by social dynamics. If it's uncomfortable you know you should be doing it because it means you are venturing out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction01/06/11 07:05 PM
2

This is a pretty boring text conversation. 1. instead of just asking about summer, make some statement about how you are excited for it. 2. You make it sound like getting stuck somewhere is a bad thing, don't be negative right off the back. 3. just wait several days and send her a ping once in a while untill she is back, build some comfort, then if things are going well and she would have mentioned she is back, plan a meetup.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:55 AM
1

You really need to post the context because I completely mis interpreted the text you included in your original post. I thought that was here response about you asking her out.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:53 AM
2

Sounds like you have the basics down. Just start throwing in more pats on the back and then quick hugs etc. Worry less about what you are doing, if you got invited back to hang out you probably still left a good impression. Never be afraid and hold back.. whats the worst that can happen? she either 1. accepts it and enjoys it 2. flinches so you can back off and re-escalate more slowly 3. tells you to stop because she is not interested. Both 1 and 2 are fine and 3 lets you know in clear terms if …
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:29 AM
2

keep it up! :-)
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:25 AM
1

Sports. Videogames. Porn. Also, everyone in high school watched the same tv shows when they were younger. bond over that.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:25 AM
1

Maybe you are getting the same responses as when you are sober but you are high so you think you are getting better responses.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:23 AM
3

Well don't beat yourself up about it. No one is happy 100% of the time.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:23 AM
2

Well, depression is something r/seddit is not qualified to treat. The best we can do is to suggest reading everything you can about inner game. But depression is a complicated issue that we can't help without getting to know you beyond an online forum. Before you try and pursue your fantasies about what the real world is like, you should work extensively on depression with your therapist, or look into medication if you are not on it.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:22 AM
3

Keep doing it until it stops killing the night.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:12 AM
4

you think about all the people in the world, all the frat boys and the clubbers and the bad boys getting laid with the most tasty women No need to glamorize and fantasize about imaginary people. They don't matter. But if that is what you want to be like, the first thing you need to do is get off the computer on Friday or Saturday night. For me, the feeling I hate most is regret and fear. Also, I go out every Friday if not Friday and Saturday and I have a great time and I resent that you seem to …
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:08 AM
4

What a way to learn a lesson. Thanks for sharing that story.
/r/seduction01/06/11 02:39 AM
1

Do you see yourself coaching for the rest of your life, or for how long? and what are the top characteristics someone needs to be a good coach?
/r/seduction01/06/11 02:23 AM
1

After hearing about TOFU always bringing it up... Japanese porn.
/r/seduction01/06/11 02:00 AM
1

Yeah that was pretty sweet of the spontaneous wing. Would have been even better if he isolated the non-target.
/r/seduction01/06/11 01:50 AM
1

How unfortunate.
/r/seduction01/06/11 01:48 AM
1

It really doesn't matter, as long as is congruent with your lifestyle. Next step is, as long as it fits with your look, the clothes should fit as well as possible.
/r/seduction31/05/11 07:37 AM
2

Stand proud!
/r/seduction31/05/11 07:35 AM
9

The first paragraph was sarcastic.
/r/seduction31/05/11 07:35 AM
3

If it's bad and you don't know what to do, start kinoing the guy. Him staying would be him acknowledging he enjoys it, which would very un douchebag like, so he will back off.
/r/seduction31/05/11 07:33 AM
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