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| 2 | I definitely ruined two women’s nightNot always but most of the time it’s more about how you say something rather than the words themselves. Or more specifically, your “intent” behind those words. Women are subconsciously excellent at detecting this. If you said those words coming from a place of sympathy, I can see how a negative reaction would come from it. If you said it from a genuine place of lust they may have taken it better. Remember, they feel what you feel. My 2nd point would be to calibrate next time. So when you mess up… | /r/seduction | 29/04/21 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Wanting something bad enough, isn't enough.Gold | /r/seduction | 02/03/14 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Wanting something bad enough, isn't enough.Thanks man! Glad you appreciate it :D | /r/seduction | 02/03/14 10:30 PM |
| 1 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!There is no "becoming a PUA" in my opinion. Its about learning to love the process..the learning never stops, and its done by getting laid and picking up girls...there is no end :) and yes..its definitely the best feeling in the world! | /r/seduction | 07/02/14 03:57 AM |
| 1 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!Yeah man its all about taking action. The learning is done in-field. | /r/seduction | 07/02/14 03:55 AM |
| 1 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!Haha "Lair" yeah thats always creeped me out. | /r/seduction | 07/02/14 03:54 AM |
| 1 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!hehe, yeah I guess so. Whatever gests YOU results is all that matters, your mindsets that help you, go with. As long as you are comfortable with them then its all good IMO. | /r/seduction | 06/02/14 07:58 AM |
| 2 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!Its effective, but not necessary either. You can get just as good results being a nice guy. Going for what you want, not taking no for an answer and being authoritative shouldn't be misinterpreted as being an asshole. Know what I mean? | /r/seduction | 06/02/14 07:28 AM |
| 2 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!Yeah instead of "nice vs asshole" you should think of it as "friend vs sexworthy". because friend can be assholish and sexworthy can be nice..different set of variables :) | /r/seduction | 06/02/14 07:18 AM |
| 1 | If you could only learn one thing from Seddit, what would it be?!If only we could jump into these peoples brains and just make them take action! I agree bud, soon as you take action it like being unplugged from the matrix and you are like wtffff now i see it! haha | /r/seduction | 06/02/14 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Its actually impossible for me to have a bad night these days.Thanks man, I love hearing this! Let me know if theres any sticking points you have or topics you want me to write about. I love exploring how things work, especially human behaviour :) | /r/seduction | 30/01/14 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Its actually impossible for me to have a bad night these days.I guess you could say that! Think about it next time you are out and let me know how it goes. I challenge you to not have a bad night ever again. | /r/seduction | 30/01/14 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Its actually impossible for me to have a bad night these days.hehe yeah exactly right. | /r/seduction | 30/01/14 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Solo Game – Yet Another Topic Leading You To Complete AbundanceGood point man, i feel the pressure to go approach more when im solo. good shit :D | /r/seduction | 16/01/14 04:14 AM |
| 1 | The environment doesnt owe you shitlol that too! | /r/seduction | 29/12/13 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Oneitishttp://innergameblog.com/getting-over-oneitis/ | /r/seduction | 17/12/13 03:43 AM |
| 3 | How do you make a conversation sexy?Add physicality to the interaction. Just light physicality. Eye contact. its in the subtleties not the actual words said. playfully tease her and challenge her too to create a push-pull type of vibe. | /r/seduction | 09/12/13 11:15 AM |
| -1 | "Pimpin aint easy" The Back-End of Game!Heres a link to my VBLOG on a concept I use for cold approach and taking massive action: http://youtu.be/m3o7lIC0k84 I dont want to look spammy, just that heaps of people missed out on this video when I posted it and I don't want people to miss it, cheers! | /r/seduction | 09/12/13 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Sick of my lack of success with womenhttp://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1r1dqv/the_do_it_anyway_mindset_how_to_accelerate_your/ | /r/seduction | 20/11/13 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Daygame - Isn't it a bit odd?Its weird not to approach a hot girl, you desire her. as a man, why wouldn't you? :P | /r/seduction | 18/11/13 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Approach Anxiety, but you're confident, knows what to say, not afraid of rejection, and etc.You kinda lean that after you just do it. Doesnt really make sense but at the same time it does. | /r/seduction | 16/11/13 09:17 AM |
| 1 | Approach Anxiety, but you're confident, knows what to say, not afraid of rejection, and etc.Its a massive sticking point for heaps of guys into game, your mood. dont worry about how you feel but take the right action aka talk to her anyway. Have the "Do it anyway" mindset going through your head every time you think of a reason not to talk to her. Also tell yourself what you like about her, the fact shes cute or has a nice ass etc that will motivate you to go in and say Hi. | /r/seduction | 16/11/13 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Sick of my lack of success with womenThanks, il release a video blog elaborating on this topic in the next couple of days. | /r/seduction | 16/11/13 04:19 AM |
| 1 | I can wingman very well but I can't get laid - any tips?Be more outcome dependant, see it as a "game". Also, im sure you can talk to girls and be a normal guy keeping a conversation going entertaining yourself. The rest is just logistics man, if you purely focus on JUST LOGISTICS, like getting the girls out the club as they leave and go to their place or your place you are going to get fkn LAID. | /r/seduction | 15/11/13 11:30 AM |
| 1 | How can I logistically go out 7 nights a week? What is that like financially?Man its so fkn hard, but yes just drink water and go to places with no cover. | /r/seduction | 15/11/13 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Sick of my lack of success with womenId say hit the clubs hard first, theres so many sets of girls that you can practise on many and not leave too much time between interactions. Perfect for learning and its a high energy (hard) environment to game girls..the only way you can learn this stuff is to put yourself out there and push your comfort zone. Have this phrase going through your head "Do it anyway" So when you think to yourself, "Wow hot girl over there, but shes with 3 other girls and they look intimidating" you should think … | /r/seduction | 15/11/13 11:24 AM |
| 1 | Coffee Dates; Down The Road or Somewhere New?Lol I just thought of something. Im gonna wait till a really weird/awkward part of the movie..like when some real fucked up shit happens, and make the move then and there. hahaha i love fucking around with this shit. gotta test it out and it will also push me to not care when the 'mood is set' etc. | /r/seduction | 12/11/13 01:15 AM |
| 1 | The Self Help Trap: You Must ACTAgree 100%. A lot of stuff thats gets upvoted here is pretty rubbish as well..mental masturbation. Good to have like minded people around though to keep you motivated and to push further in your actions. | /r/seduction | 12/11/13 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!Very true! | /r/seduction | 12/11/13 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Coffee Dates; Down The Road or Somewhere New?Lol! haha yeah good point. I like movies! plus add's to the time and tension so you probably get less resistance when you go for it. But yeh no shit why not just go strait for the fuck. Good point :) | /r/seduction | 12/11/13 12:18 AM |
| 1 | The Self Help Trap: You Must ACTI think you missed the point a little, accelerating is taking action, you need to accelerate. Im no doubt the biggest believer in taking action to achive any result, you simply CAN NOT get success by just reading shit..what im getting at is that if you do read and educate yourself, as a supplement to taking action, you will go much further. Thats why all pro NBA players and any top sports professional have personal coaches. ITs all about holding the right mindset along the way and its good to ha… | /r/seduction | 12/11/13 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!Thanks man! I really appreciate it! Let me know what kinda topics you want videos on and il add them to the list :) | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 08:18 AM |
| 10 | The Self Help Trap: You Must ACTTyler from RSD made an AWEOSME analogy of this. "Think of material and knowledge as gas for your car. and taking action is you accelerating. If you dont fill it up with gas, your car will eventually stop. If you are at the gas station filling up, the tank can only take so much in, then the rest pointlessly spills out, you cant take it in. You need to learn, but take action so you can learn more" I totally paraphrased that but its so fucking gold! | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 06:35 AM |
| 2 | Coffee Dates; Down The Road or Somewhere New?Yeah its hard to realise for a lot of people (took me fkn ages too) that most of the game is logistics..building attraction is easy as fuck and most the time its there when you dont even know it..as long as you are a normal guy, she will want you to fuck her if you are both in a bed together. That easy. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 06:32 AM |
| 3 | Coffee Dates; Down The Road or Somewhere New?Closest to the sex location! dates are all about logistics, you want to get her into bed..thats all there is to game on a date. just have normal talk, amuse yourself and she will be attracted enough...its not about attraction at this point, its literally just being in a location in isolation where sex is possible. Take her down the street for a coffee, then go back to yours to watch a movie on your laptop while lying in bed...hug her, rub her and after the movie just go full make out and sex :) | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!Hey, Thanks man! really appreciate that. I feel so good when I have a new subscriber! I'm just trying to be as genuine as I can with all this, its my biggest passion so I find it easy :) | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 06:06 AM |
| 2 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!I live in Australia, thats probably why you read it late at night. What country are you from? I should start posting with US times since im assuming most people here are from the US? Happy you like the post :) | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 06:05 AM |
| 1 | So I wrote about my current quarter-life crisis lol! let me know what you think about the article.Thanks, Yah a lot of people don't put enough thought into what they are really doing with their life...its so strange. | /r/seduction | 10/11/13 02:05 AM |
| 1 | So I wrote about my current quarter-life crisis lol! let me know what you think about the article.Interesting stuff there. Im 24 at the moment, still very young but I have such a big drive to move forward I sometimes feel like I'm 27 haha. I just want to make the most out of life, the only scarce thing we have these days is time. Just trying to make the best use of it while I have it :) | /r/seduction | 10/11/13 02:04 AM |
| 2 | How do you flirt with a beautiful, hot girl that is obviously getting hit on by many other guys?If you know her, and you are in a specific situation where there are guys hitting on her seeking her validation..id walk away and talk to other girls..then end of the night or after the guys have failed id go back in there. If you dont know her..depends how you feel but I usually put my arm around them and just be chill while the other guys talk to her... the less i care the more she wants me. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 08:18 AM |
| 6 | How do you flirt with a beautiful, hot girl that is obviously getting hit on by many other guys?Just as you would with any other girl, same principals apply. -be outcome independant -unreactive -take action! etc. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 08:15 AM |
| 2 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?Best tip i have for that is lower your expectations of what you think is acceptable to talk about. The more pointless the stuff you talk about is, the more comfortable and fun it is. Also, dont stress about interview mode questions. I was on a date last night and i basically just used interview style questions all night, handled logistics well and made the move back at her place. you dont really need to deviate from interview mode all that much..as long as you are sexworthy (not trying to impres… | /r/seduction | 31/10/13 03:42 AM |
| 2 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?So wrong its not even funny. Theres guys that own massive companies asking me for advise on how to talk to girls. Being loaded as fuck means absolutely nothing in terms of cold approach pick up. Il be releasing some stuff on this exact topic soon. | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 12:35 PM |
| 2 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?I wonder how bad? my teeth are pretty fucked up but I just ignore that fact and take action regardless. (i should really go to a dentist and sort it out, and i will) but till then, realise that its irrelevant and you can easily get girls aroused and have good times with heaps of success :) | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 12:34 PM |
| 1 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?I was in the exact same boat man..its fucking hard to push past it..you should start bringing girls over. In fact...you NEED to bring girls over and cop the shit for the first couple of times..then they should just accept it as normal. Bring friends that are girls over and start with that. And if things dont get better, have a conversation with your parents...it may be the hardest thing but just let them know that you are a guy and you like girls and its normal and you will be brining them home … | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 12:32 PM |
| 1 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?Yeah the 3 second rule can be good but also bad. I used to use it as an excuse..ie: "oh its been more than 3 seconds since i noticed her now so no point approaching because it probalby wont work" But you just gotta put your feelings/emotions aside and take the right action. | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 04:32 AM |
| 2 | What is your biggest fear or sticking point currently?So fear of rejection in terms of taking it further with girls you already know and talk to? (friends)..not so much cold approaching new girls? | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Little change of perspective after spending the weekend with RSD Julian and Alex.Thanks man, yeah working on that post just trying to work out how to word it all. Cheers | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Little change of perspective after spending the weekend with RSD Julian and Alex.Hehe yeah working on it! Should have it up within a few days. Keep an eye out | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Little change of perspective after spending the weekend with RSD Julian and Alex.It's because I know Alex. They are usually all good but sometimes they ask their bootcamp alumni to help out as well. | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Why you don't need alcohol to pickup AND have a FUN as fuck night!yeah thats true, removes the anxiety which is the sticking point for most guys that dont approach. | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Why you don't need alcohol to pickup AND have a FUN as fuck night!Yeah i agree, its not like "oh you need to stop drinking to learn pick up and never drink again or else you suck" which a lot of PUA guys think..drinking is fun and cool, and yes being at a bar its kinda normal to have a couple :) | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 03:28 AM |
| 1 | How much do you drink while out?http://innergameblog.com/dont-need-alcohol-pickup-fun-fuck-night/ Here is my post on reddit about this: http://redd.it/1oyee6 | /r/seduction | 22/10/13 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Why you don't need alcohol to pickup AND have a FUN as fuck night!Exactly right man, I think it helps in more ways than just pick up as well...kinda helps build that real core confidence which transcends into other areas of your life and general mental health :) | /r/seduction | 22/10/13 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Why you don't need alcohol to pickup AND have a FUN as fuck night!Yeah thats the way man. For me, I usually approach 2-3 hard sets at the start and it gets me going. | /r/seduction | 22/10/13 07:40 AM |
| 3 | The way I talk to women is too 'friendly' and does not communicate sexual tension. How can this be fixed?you probably back off when you feel tension yourself.. so for example..you go to touch her..and you feel the tension so you stop. Or you go to speak your mind and disagree with her, but you feel the tension and stop..just flow naturally..if you feel the tension..keep it there..mix up her emotions, speak from the heart, touch her right from the start and ure all good | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 11:10 AM |
| 1 | My view on situational confidence vs core confidenceAgreed | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Stop looking for invitations or IOI's (Indicators of Interest) to approach a girl!Lol | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 02:08 AM |
| 3 | 10 pieces of pickup advice for shorter menHehe im short, I hate it sometimes especially out at clubs where EVERY chick is wearing heels..it doesnt really cross my mind though, never really noticed it affecting my game at all. I sometimes joke around with it for fun. Pretty funny actually recently I was in Vegas and I met this REALLY tall girl, I was shoulder height to her and she was wearing flats! we ended up walking along the sidewalk, I was walking on the road and she was up on the kerb so we could see each other. Then we ended up on… | /r/seduction | 14/10/13 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Can I get some tips on meeting girls in college?usually girls flake on you when your initial interaction wasnt strong enough. Its good to make her feel emotions when conversating..so be expressive and unfliltered with what you say. Try not to give her the same emotions over and over..mix it up, this will get her more interested. Remember to have a freedom of outcome and not worry about actually getting her as a gf or even hooking up with her, you dont want to be needy as girls instantly get turned off. Ive written a guide on my blog you can c… | /r/seduction | 14/10/13 12:49 AM |
| 1 | What do you classify a "rejection" or "blow out" ?From my experience, theres no relationship there..theres so many variables with pick up its insane..but yeah man many times ive pulled girls which initially were extremely hard to open. Often times, the ones easy to open are the hardest to pull...theres just no way of knowing. | /r/seduction | 10/10/13 02:13 AM |
| 1 | What do you classify a "rejection" or "blow out" ?Hehe, sure does. But thats what it takes ;) I used to be a little bitch, now this is part of normal life for me..just gotta stick it through. It never gets easy...but you just get better and better. | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 12:37 AM |
| 3 | Case of "Oneitis" help me sort myself outGo meet more girls (I had to be the dick to not give advise here and just say it) but in terms of this particular situation, go for it man, you being a sexual/emotional distraction from her thinking about her ex is a good thing for her, and you. And you never know what it might become, id say push forward with her and see where it goes. If it doesnt work out you can almost always salvage it and just be friends with her..but you gotta be willing to lose that. ive posted some blogs that you can pr… | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 08:12 AM |
| 1 | ApproachingWalk up, introduce yourself, add physicality from the start, dont care about the outcome, self amuse yourself. Ive written a guide on mistakes guys make when approaching girls here http://innergameblog.com/free-guide-book/ :) let me know what you think, im happy to help answer any questions you have, i been heavily involved in the game for over 4 years and killin it right now | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 08:08 AM |
| 2 | I'm extremely afraid of going on a date. How can I overcome this ?Definitely go on more dates. | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Couple of Alternative Ways To Meet Women If You Just Can't Deal with AAGreat post, although I think you are limiting the potential girls you can be with by like 90%. Cold approach is where its at..its pretty scary knowing the girl you will have to marry/be/with/fuck can only be within your social circle etc...you are limiting yourself to such a small pool of girls. For those who find it hard to cold approach, or think its wrong...its probably the frame of mind you are coming at it from. Its about being genuine an sincere, cold approach should be seen as fun and not… | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Open First, Worry Later.Definitely true. As long as you dont use it as an excuse not to open if you DO happen to wait over 3 seconds..i used to to that haha, id see a girl, and say i bitched out and waited more then 3 seconds id b like "oh its too late now im in my head" haha. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:56 AM |
| 0 | Forgetting to have fun. - Must read.lol id assume many people here probably dont approach girls, and dont flirt either, they know the theory but dont take action. Im just trying to state the obvious because its not really obvious to many people, theres people here on all different levels. Its all about helping each other out no matter what level we are on :) | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:54 AM |
| 0 | Forgetting to have fun. - Must read.Its not advise, just a thing to keep in mind when you are out gaming girls. A lot of people fall into a place of being too focused on the outcome and forget to have fun. In general, people that go out often will see the value in this. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 05:22 AM |
| 1 | [Idea/Request] Need advice with my approach to beat AA and how i get myself actually interested in other people?Check out my free guide: 10 Mistakes Guys Make When Approaching girls. http://innergameblog.com/free-guide-book/ Ive been in the game for 4 years and just like many other guys I had the same limiting beliefs you mentioned above. Took me about 1-2 years to start getting to an intermediate level, and lately ive just been doing very well, in fact it just feels really really easy and normal. In terms of finding other people interesting...you need to amuse yourself to have fun when cold approaching..… | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Please explain how can this kind of training work (RDS video)I've been out with some rsd instructors while filming and yes I can confirm it's all real lol. What you see in those videos is noting really special anyway.. There's other in field videos on their paid products with much more mind blowing shit lol. I have been there watching it take place live and learned a lot from rsd. I now coach my own students. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:25 AM |
| 1 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:Definitely a good list of readings! Love these books! and yeah the only way to ever become naturally good at this is to build the right foundation. I started with outer game stuff and never really helped me properly. theres a moment for everyone in game where it 'clicks' ..it just clicks and from there on its awesome. learning outer game, while it may give you success..it will be hard to just click. most PUA's are social robots, in fact..most people into PUA stuff dont even go out and approach g… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 07:59 AM |
| 1 | What is a guy who is a 10 (in girls minds) like? What is his life like? What does he do? How does he act?Mark Manson must be a smart man then haha il look him up. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Stop looking for invitations or IOI's (Indicators of Interest) to approach a girl!Yeah 100% | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 04:08 AM |
| 1 | I'm not shy but I tend to stick to myself. How can I make friends?Ive met some of my best friends from cold approaching. Ive done so by being completely natural when im gaming. I dont use lines or routines. I just go in and meet people, I have no agenda and people see me as a 'cool' guy. I talk about things that I find amusing, and usually people love the energy. Its all about positive vibing. Keep at the cold approaches and you will definitely make cool friends :) | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Why can I relax and be confident around woman I'm not interested in, but can't and get friend zoned with all the woman I am?Its because you are outcome dependant when a hottie is around you. Where as you have a freedom of outcome when you are around woman that you are not interested in. If you are outcome dependant, females can sense the neediness in your sub-communication and arnt aroused by it, therefore you naturally get friend zoned. In terms of learning how to be comfortable, the way I did it was not learning about body language or things to say, more so learning and internalizing an "abundance" frame of mind, k… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 03:45 AM |
| 1 | How do you go from just causally hanging out as friends to the bedroom? What's your tacticwhat seperates you from being in or out of the friendzone is physicality. Be physical, it builds sexual tension and its on. | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 11:49 PM |
| 10 | What is a guy who is a 10 (in girls minds) like? What is his life like? What does he do? How does he act?Be focused on your goals. Be un-reactive, fun and outgoing. Girls get aroused when guys give them spikes in emotions, in terms of building "attraction" it happens when you are in conversation, spiking girls emotions (in either a negative or positive way) + showing intent and being physical will arouse them, therefore creating attraction. Having a positive outlook on life, following your passions and enjoying moments will have a side effect being a cool guy who doesnt really care too much about w… | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Not sure if I'm bad at this, or just unluckyProbably just unlucky man. You should push a little more though. If she says we need to take steps etc..Push a little harder. Girls want a man to lead, especially in that type of situation. You sound like you did push though, its a fine line between pushing harder and being abusive haha. But just try go that little bit further each time till you get better at calibrating it. One question, did you continue to finger/make out with her after she said that? If you did, i suggest when she says stuff … | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Stop looking for invitations or IOI's (Indicators of Interest) to approach a girl!Sure do man, been in the game for a long time, and a lot of it was NOT being successful lol. Took years to get into the frame of mind im at now...it feels effortless and fun. Really enjoying meeting chicks these days :) | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Stop looking for invitations or IOI's (Indicators of Interest) to approach a girl!Very true mate. This is more common than most people think, in fact it pretty much happens every time I talk to girls. The best IOI you can possibly get is compliance. If shes listening and playing along with you, just keep going. | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 02:23 PM |
| 1 | 10 Mistakes Guys Make When Approaching Girls. Let me know what you guys think, Thanks.That's cool man, il be posting up my blogs regularly for free on here as well. Hope you can get some value out of them :) | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 01:08 PM |
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