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| 2 | How I solved the gender war (and all of human civilisation by mistake)Thanks for your comment! You just reminded me of Tolkien's story "Aldarion and Erendis", which explores exactly what you were saying about how men and women related to each other in these civilisations. I meant to include it in the main text, but it got lost beneath everything else. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/24 01:15 AM |
| 3 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental health“ many cultures undergoing a painful physical or scarring procedure while stoically enduring pain, such as circumcision, was a behavior or ritual that symbolically represented masculinity. That ritual has fallen by the wayside in most modern cultures “ I’m not so sure that it has; I think that, although it’s certainly not as intense in modern culture, it’s still present, it’s just shifted forms. There’s all this talk from many feminists that men should “express their feelings” more. However, if … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 09:32 AM |
| 5 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental healthI’m so sorry you had to go through something like that. This sort of rhetoric especially dangerous in this situation because of you are (understandably) insecure, then you look for what you don’t have, which is security. (In fact, the word “want” originally comes from a word meaning “lack”, so when you say “I lack security” it’s essentially the same as saying “I want security”). So people who authoritatively and confidently keep repeating the message “Incels/men are misogynists and hate women” a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/23 06:04 PM |
| 8 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental healthEvery word you just said applied to me too; I thought the same as you do. I had this sense that I had a responsibility to make society a little better, that my own well-being wasn’t really relevant next to the massive amount of suffering in the world, so if I got hurt I just needed to suck it up and keep going. But even though what you’re doing is admirable, the feminism debate has gone too far now, way too far, to the point where the entire ideology exists as a danger to others, because the vas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/23 12:17 AM |
| 32 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental healthThey will redefine “misogyny” to fit their narrative. Feminists recently lied and said that “60% of men think women’s rights have gone too far”, when the study actually said that that 60% of men think that “women’s rights have gone so far that men are now being oppressed.” No one is holding them accountable so they are just lying, regardless of the absolute havoc it plays on peoples’ mental health and sense of self. Trust nothing that they say on face value and, if you can, try to eliminate anyt… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/23 11:37 PM |
| 26 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental health“ These feminists are unlike any I’ve encountered” Fascinating stuff, since these sorts of feminists seem to be the main kind that I’ve seen and been exposed to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/23 09:52 PM |
| 7 | Being mindful of personal safety, or creating a moral panic around men?I’ve been for walks at midnight…and I’ve seen just as many women as I have men. These people project their own paranoia onto women everywhere, as if they can trick us into thinking that they’re some kind of monolithic entity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/23 01:28 AM |
| 92 | A calm rant about the straight white dude experience in left politicsThis idea that you have to be able to experience something to talk about it only ever goes one way. I brought up how someone saying that men should be banned from going outside for 2 hours every day makes men unsafe, and I got the reply calling me an “incel” who “can’t understand women’s experiences”. This is relevant in a number of different ways. Firstly, this person thought it was alright to insult me and hijack a conversation about men’s’ experiences in order to talk about how men aren’t all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/23 11:27 AM |
| 31 | “Have you deprogrammed yourself from misogyny?”No because I never was a misogynist to begin with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/23 12:11 AM |
| 15 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?The bookstores have become absolute hellholes. At least where I am, can’t go in them without having a thousand books thrust in your face about how men, masculinity and testosterone are responsible for all the evil in the world and how you are inferior and probably a predator if you’re male. Eventually, I found a single, slim paperback about male issues hidden away in a corner and that was it. Even if you can navigate your way through these books and actually pick up one, reference books, regardl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/23 12:10 AM |
| 18 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?I’m a committed leftie, but I’ve heard so much hatred against men from them that I’ve actually started listening to solidly right wing sources. I’ve often thought “If things have gotten so bad that I’m willing to give right wingers a listen and agree with a few of their points, what must it be like for general people, especially men and boys, who aren’t as tied to the left as I am? Presumably, they’d be pulled straight towards the right. And your point about your son seems to have confirmed my s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 09:17 PM |
| 7 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?Sums up my feelings exactly. It’s a very pernicious form of lying in that it involves self deception as well as the deception of the people they’re talking to, or in other words it’s a post hoc rationalisation that gives them a pass to behave as cruelly and callously as they like while still fooling themselves into thinking they’re morally righteous. With so many levels of lies, how could you possibly trust a single word that these people say? What is even the point of listening to them speak at… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 08:58 PM |
| 32 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?This “pick me” slur seems to be the woman version of “incel”. The idea that women can’t have basic decency and come to their own conclusions without wanting a man’s attention sounds like pure misogyny to me. I think people are so focused on the misandry of feminism that the misogyny gets unfairly overlooked. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 07:12 PM |
| 25 | What will it take to change your mind?This is the golden rule of feminism: we’re supposed to care about the feminists’ feelings while they can laugh at and mock ours. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 04:56 PM |
| 22 | What will it take to change your mind?I’ve found it’s very easy to convince intelligent people that men’s rights ought to be taken seriously. With REALLY intelligent people, even those who identify with some of the more radical elements of feminism, you can alter their perspective using some stats in a single five minute IRL conversation. I know this because I’ve done it. The problem is not intelligent people. The problem is stupid people. The sort of people who will simply dismiss you as a misogynist and these stats as faked by the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 04:54 PM |
| 42 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?It’s the contradiction that really gets me. On the one hand we’re taught “Everyone is entitled to equal rights and being treated with respect”, then we’re taught “boys are stupid”. It’s society-wide cognitive dissonance. I honestly wish society was mature enough to say “hey, we can empower girls and boys at the same time!”, and have boys and girls both be allowed to take some kind of pride in their gender identity. But instead we always seem to tear down and humiliate one side while lifting up t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 03:56 PM |
| 15 | Does radical feminist thought infest the Education System before kids start high school?I remember the creationism vs evolution debates, back when academia was interested in fighting crackpot nonsense rather than distributing it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 03:36 PM |
| 6 | The mainstream and academia always knew, yet did NOTHING. An article from 2010 that proves men’s issues have been known about, yet were ignored and belittled, for over a decadeThere’s a really easy way to test this, type in “men are not superior to women” and “women are not superior to men” into google and see what happens… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 10:26 PM |
| 26 | The mainstream and academia always knew, yet did NOTHING. An article from 2010 that proves men’s issues have been known about, yet were ignored and belittled, for over a decade“ at worst 'demonstrat[ing] an alarming level of anti-feminism and overt negativity towards women as a group."” Love the shameless attempt to make “feminism” synonymous with “women as a group”. The more I read these sorts of articles, the more I realise they’re just hateful, badly conceived Twitter posts with more pretentious wording. I mean, I can do take my own post and word it in an equally academic tone to make it equally “official sounding”: “There is undoubtedly a concerted effort in these… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 02:47 PM |
| 24 | The mainstream and academia always knew, yet did NOTHING. An article from 2010 that proves men’s issues have been known about, yet were ignored and belittled, for over a decade“ I myself do not have the courage to stand up and even say anything, because you would be looked at like you're an alien. ” I’m a little like you in that regard and it reminds me of a conversation I had a while back. There was someone who said that we need to believe all women and that if men get charged with rape falsely then “so be it”. So I actually spoke out and shared this article about all these men who have had their lives ruined by false accusations, lost their jobs, their houses and th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 02:19 PM |
| 31 | The mainstream and academia always knew, yet did NOTHING. An article from 2010 that proves men’s issues have been known about, yet were ignored and belittled, for over a decade“ the actual incels are fucking scum ” Are they? If we define incel as involuntarily celibate, which seem to me to be the most reasonable definition, then I think defining them as “fucking scum” isn’t exactly helpful? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 01:53 PM |
| 2 | How early feminist writings were the “spores” of the modern day misandrist wave of feminismYeah, you’re right, the racist elements of the poem have also been pointed out and criticised. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 11:54 AM |
| 7 | How early feminist writings were the “spores” of the modern day misandrist wave of feminism“ If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth.” This shows a vast lack of intelligence and understanding on the part of Mary Daly. Firstly, the idea that women when given power are inherently superior to men when given power is proven wrong by feminism. Women and men are equally self obsessed, perfidious and power hungry, it’s just the way that these things are expressed differ between the genders. Second, Humans have already screwed this planet up to the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/23 09:15 PM |
| 48 | The Canadian Government used to be mostly men. It is now mostly women. Executive federal jobs are also mostly women today.When I was 11, I had a female teacher in school who told me “Men were above women for 2000 years so it’s only fair women are above men for another 2000 years” then she quickly added “not that it’s going to affect any of you!” I can still hear that quote in my head as if it were yesterday. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 10:54 AM |
| 1 | I feel like people are becoming more traditionalAlso I’m sorry to hear that you regret it, I hope everything turns out alright. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | I feel like people are becoming more traditionalThanks so much for taking the time to write all of that out. It makes things a lot easier to understand when they’re all spelled out like that, even though l most people probably just seem to know it inherently. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 08:44 PM |
| 12 | I feel like people are becoming more traditional“ And at some point you do need to value your own life long happiness a lot more than a few girls having to suffer through an awkward conversation while you're still learning.” This is the bit that I struggle with the most. I hate the idea that I’m making people feel uncomfortable in any way, so I very rarely even try, and it’s even worse with women with all the concerns around harassment and that sort of thing. Hearing words like “incel” and “nice guy” constantly getting thrown like they’re not… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 02:05 PM |
| 11 | I feel like people are becoming more traditionalDoes usage of the term “incel” not count as harassment? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 01:54 PM |
| 110 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...Feminists like this don’t realise that “Opening up about your emotions” goes both ways. If someone opens up to you about their emotions, you do NOT gaslight them or shame them or victim blame them. Yet if you open up to these feminists, that’s literally all they will do and you can bet your life savings that no one will hold them accountable for it. This is their most insidious tactic. They will pretend to be your friends, pretend to care about you, but then stab you in the back repeatedly if yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Why I joined the Men’s’ Advocacy Movement: the greatest weapon the misandrists have is divisionhttps://twitter.com/redlianak/status/1230143696542355457?lang=en https://twitter.com/YatimaOfKonishi/status/1230212903233576963 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 09:57 AM |
| 59 | Good News: A New Perspective of Male SuicideReminds me of how the right will say that shootings are caused by “mental health issues” as an excuse to do jack shit about them. After 2015, there has been a steady increase in male suicides. Not only are mens’ issues not taken seriously, WE are blamed for “not speaking out about our emotions”, and then when I do speak out about my emotions about being uncomfortable about certain misandrist words, it’s MY fault and I’M the monster. It’s getting really hard for me not to come to the conclusion t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/23 07:22 PM |
| 68 | Shoutout to r/facepalm for including misandry for comments that will be banned, probably the first time I’ve seen thisThese bastards see the term “incel” used as derogatory again and again, then when it’s called out they excuse it by saying “it’s a self identifier used by misogynists”. Far right gay man “Milo Yiannopolis” used the term “dangerous faggot” as a self identifier, does that mean “faggot” is now an acceptable epithet? Of course it doesn’t. This is the kind of thing that made me literally quit the internet. Many find it incredibly hurtful especially when people who try to justify it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/23 09:46 PM |
| 15 | Men, unlike women, are expected to take full responsibility for their own problems: the unholy alliance between feminists and the far rightI was going to make a post making this exact point. My suspicion is that men in this sort of situation you describe, those who genuinely don’t want to upset anyone and want to show basic decency, are WAY more common than it appears but they simply don’t want to speak out because they are averse to conflict. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/23 12:16 PM |
| 12 | Anti-male sentiment on the left from the perspective of a trans womanSame experience here. On r/fuckcars someone made some post about how everything is the fault of all men, and I commented about how they were wrong. I got banned for a month with the mods saying “your sexism isn’t welcome here and neither are you”. Of course the ban’s lifted by now but I haven’t been back. This site is far worse than tumblr or 4chan. At least the people on those sites were openly stupid as opposed to this pretentious, pseudo-intellectual bullshit we see from the mods of these com… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/23 11:15 AM |
| 40 | Anti-male sentiment on the left from the perspective of a trans womanyou will find misogyny at the fringes, but it practically always gets criticized from within. I second this. I have very frequently seen men's rights movements call out and disown misogyny, but I have seen no similar effort for feminist movements. If you take out the misogynists from the men's rights movement, you will have a better movement. If you take out the misandrists from the feminist movement, you will no longer have a movement at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/23 12:03 AM |
| 38 | Anti-male sentiment on the left from the perspective of a trans womanI agree it’s very hard to find feminist spaces that haven’t been corrupted by bioessentialist, radical feminist ideology in which males are always oppressors and females are innocent victims of oppression. However, it’s also hard to find men’s advocacy spaces that aren’t overrun with violent misogyny, and yet they exist and are worth finding. True. This is why, for the longest time, I tried to avoid all feminist and men's rights spaces. Both of them had way too much rhetoric that I found repulsi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 09:12 PM |
| 107 | Anti-male sentiment on the left from the perspective of a trans woman"I know the trolls—they have tried to be my friends, they have tried to sneak into feminist spaces with no desire to learn or listen." I tried to go into feminist spaces to "learn and listen" for a while. What happens is, you're hit with tirade after tirade about how worthless you are, how all of your problems or concerns or insecurities are because you, personally, are a piece of shit and how you need to carry all the problems of the world on your back without expecting the slightest bit of dec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Vast numbers of men and women think mens’ rights are under threat…so why does no one speak out?This is exactly what got me to start taking mens' issues seriously. Men are hurting, and everyone knows it, yet the cowardly yellow press and the charlatan activists are doing their best to gaslight and stomp down these discussions and concerns. This is exactly the sort of thing that has happened to every positive social movement, and steps need to be taken now before things get monumentally worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 06:33 PM |
| 4 | Vast numbers of men and women think mens’ rights are under threat…so why does no one speak out?The article on the study is here: https://nypost.com/2023/03/10/gen-z-millennials-think-womens-rights-have-gone-too-far/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 10:26 AM |
| 21 | Vast numbers of men and women think mens’ rights are under threat…so why does no one speak out?“ I've softballed some male advocate stuff before and got a ton of pushback.” I’ve found that the more intelligent someone is, the easier they are to convince, because they’re more open to new ideas and logic, to the extent that you can flip their perspectives with a singles conversation, whereas you can try to walk people who are thick as pig shit through each individual step and explain to them, with the patience of a Saint, what each individual word means, and they’ll shout at you until you g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our culture“ Women surviving over men is a bi-partisan issue: feminists see it as empowering ("you go girl") misogynists view women as needing to be saved/spared from a violent death (ie, why they say women shouldn't be in military) Everybody is happy, which is why 99% of horror films follow the final girl formula. But that's a whole other topic for another day.” You see this with everything. Richard Reeves pointed out that men are always expected to solve their own problems while women are always expected… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/23 11:51 AM |
| 18 | How to unlearn the “sit down and shut up” conditioning of public school?This is something I’ve been thinking about. When I was very young, I used to really enjoy learning and putting my thoughts across. The trouble was, whenever I did, I’d get shoved in detention for “interrupting with asinine facts”. So I learned not to do anything, which essentially instilled a complete fear and hate of anything to do with education. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 12:57 PM |
| 7 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our cultureI've actually given this topic about masculinity in MLP a decent amount of thought. It's certainly true that there isn't a great deal of focus on male characters in MLP in the early seasons, such as seasons 1 or 2. I actually didn't find this problematic, because I think that it can be healthy to have a series that focuses on one gender. For instance, feminists argue that stories like The Lord of The Rings or he original Star Wars films do not have enough positive female representation in them a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 11:40 AM |
| 3 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our cultureFair, I must have misheard the statistic. I’ll amend it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 10:10 AM |
| 23 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our cultureI completely cut out all of these leftist groups that spread misandry out of my life a few weeks back. My mood has absolutely gone upwards. I wouldn’t quite say I’ve “never felt better” but it’s close. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 10:09 AM |
| 6 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our cultureNot sure what was going on there but it should be fixed now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 10:05 AM |
| 38 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our culture“ I was understandably upset that someone was literally lying about a stat from a study” They do this SO much. I was at a leftist event the other day when a feminist came out and said “studies show that 60% of men think women’s’ rights have gone too far which is why we have feminism”. As someone who has had years of experience dealing with pseudo-science online, I have an extremely good bullshit detector and I could tell there was something wrong. So I looked it up and it actually said “60% of y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 10:05 AM |
| 5 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryThis is a great point. I considered something similar: there’s this complaint from some that the idea that women can be restricted by certain expectations from society, and I think this is a valid concern. But then they turn around and try to restrict men by trying to associate masculinity with being toxic. If a woman or a man wants to be assertive or forward (within reason of course, as with everything) then they should be allowed to do that and not be shamed for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 11:19 PM |
| 19 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryIf you want to talk about these things then talk about them, you don’t need to use a phrase as fluid and open to interpretation as “toxic masculinity”, which simply exists to reinforce the idea that “masculinity=bad”. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 06:57 PM |
| 35 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryThanks for mentioning this, I was going to mention the motte and Bailey fallacy, but as I was writing that point got away from me and I didn’t include it. It is hypocritical, but it goes further than that. Feminists have spent so long in the “language fight” that they’ve become masters of it and now that the neo-feminists have won, don’t stop the fight but instead use it as a weapon as revenge. Once you stop looking at it through a lens of “this ideology genuinely cares about morality and integr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 05:18 PM |
| 10 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementWhat drew me to the left in the first place was the destruction of the environment through climate change and global warming. The fact that the left is more interested in ostracising and attacking men than actually protecting the planet proves they aren’t treating the issue with any kind of sincerity. I’ve been a leftist all my life, but this blatant anti-male rhetoric has just black pilled me on all of it to the point I want nothing more to do with it. If the left wants to eat itself then fine,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 03:48 PM |
| 8 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementThis isn’t about people who identify with being an incel. It’s about using the term “incel” as a slur at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 03:27 PM |
| 17 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movement"patrarchy = male suicide and you blame us" They’re saying “we can bully men into committing suicide with zero blame or moral repercussions because the other side is worse than us”. This is how every fascist supremacist movement goes. In history, if you were an empire who wanted to wipe out a tribe, you’d simply claim that they were doing child sacrifice. Then, whenever you torture them, whenever you burn their homes, that’s fine, because the other side is worse. One day the tide will turn, and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 12:11 PM |
| 11 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementI’m of the opinion that getting rid of these IDpol people is the most important thing for the left, far more so than beating the right. You can’t live in a house that’s got more termites in it than wood. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 10:38 AM |
| 8 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementWhat you’re saying reminds me of the whole “I can fix him” tropes that’s become commonplace in media aimed at women: Fifty Shares of Grey, Twilight, the Star Wars sequels… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 10:36 AM |
| 6 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementYour right, this all started with Star Wars The Force Awakens. Criticise the main character and the “sexist” claims start flying. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 10:34 AM |
| 22 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementI was being exposed to so much misandry online, especially in leftist circles, that I just decided to cut out Internet forum use as much as possible. Obviously I can’t escape all misandry with how widespread it is, but after just going completely “cold turkey” on all leftist content by unsubscribing from them and their forums, I’ve been feeling a LOT better recently. I never really noticed just how bad the left has been infected by these people until I stepped away from them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Hillary Clinton: Ukraine conflict shows climate change primarily affects women | Can someone make it make sense?Clinton is the biggest loser USA. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/23 11:10 AM |
| 4 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.I suspect that they’ve deliberately made the wording vague enough so that some people will interpret it in a harmless way, and others in not such a harmless way. “ My issue with this entire definition of "toxic femininity" is that it doesn't at all address any actual toxicity created by women.” This is completely true, and there’s a reason for this: every truly toxic feminine trait is a key strategy of feminism. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/23 12:58 AM |
| 1 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.Also as a side note, I agree women’s issues are still important and under a degree of threat. This whole abortion ban business is genuinely scary for instance, especially taking into account the fact that women are literally being spied on by the government via their phones and computers to see if they’re pregnant or not. But the fact that this is being used to silence men’s issues again and again, as if we can only focus on one gender’s problems, is another problem I have. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.What you’re saying is all pretty reasonable, but I do take issue with it. I have sadly seen hate against women here, and it’s simply not excusable. But the difference is, while the hate against women is terrible, the hate from the feminist movement has become mainstream. Look at these articles: “ The fact that we're considering making misandry a hate crime should concern everyone who believes in equality It seems there’s nothing women can have – not even their status as a marginalised sex class … | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 07:48 PM |
| 3 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.Sadly, you do not speak for all feminists. For instance, I’m a leftist, and I genuinely used to believe what you said. But I have experienced far too many feminists who, consciously or not, hold empathy in contempt. So you’re telling me one thing, yet 90% of feminists I’ve spoken to have shown the opposite. Better yet, I can prove this to you. As an experiment, go into a feminist forum and claim to be a single guy who finds the term “incel” upsetting, or affects your insecurity. They’ll complete… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 07:04 PM |
| 3 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.You’re just forcing one specific meaning on these phrases that you’re holding in your head. This assumes words and phrases don’t change or evolve depending on who’s using them. It is exactly as absurd as saying genes never change or evolve and that they just contain the same information for all time. These linguistic games aren’t fun. Stop playing then. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 05:53 PM |
| 17 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.Ah, you see, not being empathetic toxic for MEN, but for women, not showing empathy is “empowering”. They are creating a world where women have to be aggressive and assertive and men have to be ashamed of these features, rather than a healthy balance between both. It’s hypocritical and twisted. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 04:19 PM |
| 11 | According to the feminism that has taken over our entire culture, women who show “empathy” are “toxic”. They are deliberately encouraging women never to show empathy or sensitivity. This is something I would expect to see in a badly-written dystopian story, not real life.That’s weird, that’s the second result I got. First result was: https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-femininity-5222736 | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 01:42 PM |
| 2 | The reason our society fears masculinity is because our culture doesn’t understand it“ make women have to be experiencing sepsis before being legally allowed to get medical attention” That’s completely messed up and evil. Women are absolutely the victims in this scenario, and it would be callous and wrong of me to be sarcastic or joke about that. Women massively outnumbering men and universities is messed up and wrong. Men are absolutely the victims in this scenario, and it would be callous and wrong to be sarcastic and joke about this. You don’t have to make this issue into som… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 01:41 AM |
| 2 | The reason our society fears masculinity is because our culture doesn’t understand itI agree with that, and it’s absolutely your prerogative how you raise your son. My suspicion, however, is that a great many of these people who commit these crimes are from very broken homes, so in my view for what it’s worth, the fact that you are already the sort of person to care about this means you probably don’t need to worry about it too much, these things don’t usually happen out of nowhere. Finally, speaking from experience, if you’re raised to be much too worried around women, you’ll f… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 01:28 AM |
| 1 | The reason our society fears masculinity is because our culture doesn’t understand itThis is a terrible argument, it’s like when people argued racism was over in the USA because a black man was president. And it was an overwhelmingly male government that brought about the conditions for women to outnumber men in universities. You cannot use a single statistic to argue against all of reality, like the fact that women now outnumber men in universities. Are you actually interested in equality? Because if you are, then speak out against this. Raise awareness that there needs to be a… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 01:18 AM |
| 1 | The reason our society fears masculinity is because our culture doesn’t understand itIf we need a war or an apocalypse to make masculinity relevant then we’ll be waiting for a long time indeed (hopefully…). In the meantime, the masculinity hatred cannot be allowed to propagate in society and we need to find a way forward. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/23 09:54 PM |
| 9 | The reason our society fears masculinity is because our culture doesn’t understand it“ Men are seen as dysfunctional women.” This is I think the crux of the issue. It was an idea first put forward in the misandrist SCUM Manifesto that we are now being seen out into reality. People do recognise this, but they’re too scared of feminism to actually say anything. Imagine being so scared of an idea, something that doesn’t even exist in the material world, that you change all your beliefs and perspectives. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/23 11:54 AM |
| 7 | The gap between men and women in universities is worse than it was in the 1950's, except it favours women. If this meant that the 1950's was a "Patriarchy", exactly at what point do we get to say that we're living in a "Martiarchy" that's just as bad or worse?We have a word for not being able to speak up for your beliefs for fear of your own social standing: cowardice. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 10:16 AM |
| 12 | The gap between men and women in universities is worse than it was in the 1950's, except it favours women. If this meant that the 1950's was a "Patriarchy", exactly at what point do we get to say that we're living in a "Martiarchy" that's just as bad or worse?1) The guy in the original video that I posted is the one who’s been researching go this. I already provided you with these resources. 2) “I want equality and so do women” “Women” are not a monolith, and neither are men. To say women “want” equality doesn’t make any sense, nor does saying men “want” equality. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 01:49 AM |
| 21 | The gap between men and women in universities is worse than it was in the 1950's, except it favours women. If this meant that the 1950's was a "Patriarchy", exactly at what point do we get to say that we're living in a "Martiarchy" that's just as bad or worse?There is a push to deny any differences between men and women: this is specifically what is causing men to lag behind in education. The system does not take their needs into account and treats them like defective women. I’ve never heard anyone excuse aggressive men or abusers. If someone does say this then I’m absolutely against it. There are some jobs, like deep sea fishing, logging etc. that it would be very difficult to make less dangerous and difficult. I obviously can’t speak for everyone b… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 11:41 PM |
| 31 | The gap between men and women in universities is worse than it was in the 1950's, except it favours women. If this meant that the 1950's was a "Patriarchy", exactly at what point do we get to say that we're living in a "Martiarchy" that's just as bad or worse?I read an article on this WAY back in 2015. The feminist writer actually said "Now that the playing field is level, women outperforming men shows their superiority to men" and used a quote from Tesla to back it up. These people are literally supremacists. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 09:41 PM |
| 31 | The gap between men and women in universities is worse than it was in the 1950's, except it favours women. If this meant that the 1950's was a "Patriarchy", exactly at what point do we get to say that we're living in a "Martiarchy" that's just as bad or worse?The idea that there is no difference between boys and girls, an idea we are seeing being pushed in every corner of society, is absolutely toxic and dangerous and inflames this disaster. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 09:38 PM |
| 24 | Resentment over superior male strength drives female grievance politicsAnd then those men who aren’t aggressive or physically imposing, who already feel like outliers and are insecure about it, have to suffer the most, are just assumed to be a part of this and attacked for it, because they’re the easiest targets. These people preach about “men being able to be sensitive and accept their feelings”, and then when some men who are already insecure do this, they essentially get kicked in the teeth for it. We’re never going to get better as a species, all that’s going t… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 03:07 PM |
| 5 | i want to advocate for men better.I just wanted to say, thank you for taking our concerns seriously. To be honest that’s really the main problem that I have with all this, that no one even seems to care. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 11:19 AM |
| 5 | An eternal truth: Advocating for the downtrodden is never easyI remember supporting gay rights back when it wasn’t cool, when less than 50% of the population even supported their rights to marry. I always thought “I’d want people to stand up for me if I ever felt that society hated me in that way.” Little did I know how quickly that would come true. I remember one (male) feminist YouTube saying to men that “Men can’t expecting other people to save them: this kind of isolation and social stigmatisation you’re feeling? Well, now YOU know how LGBT+ people wer… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/23 01:16 AM |
| 3 | [UK] Sexual politics is damaging young men"‘Boys are now seen as potential perverts,’ explains one female former teacher, who quit the profession last year. ‘There was this obsession with the victimisation of women. I thought we had been getting somewhere with sex and relationships, teaching the children to treat people with respect, but that has been totally set back.’" This is a recurring theme. We were actually getting somewhere with most of these issues up until 2015, which is when these crazies took over. 1 step forward, 5 steps … | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for meThere is, sadly, a very large proportion of people out there who need someone to hate. These sorts of people are unable to come to terms with their own faults, so instead they just say that these problems are with group [X]. The whole “when men hate women they commit murder and rape” narrative is extremely important to these sorts of people: it justifies any kind of abuse because then they can say “Well, no matter what I do, at least I’m not as bad as they are, so I have the moral high ground an… | /r/MenSupportMen | 21/03/23 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for me“ even in google when I search up “I feel like women hate men” I’m just directed to articles from last year of women saying that they have a right to hate men, or that women saying that they hate men is ok, and justified.” Yup, done this too. If you ever want to get angry, try searching up “men are not better than women” and then “women are not better than men”. Whatever one you search, it will just be pure misandry plain and simple. | /r/MenSupportMen | 21/03/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | ChatGPT out here straight up lyingParrots like ALEX can actually understand what they're saying | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Gentle reminder not to demonize all women. We cannot become whay we condemn.I broadly agree with everything you’ve said, but I feel like if feminism has been redefined and used in so many different contexts, from men haters/TERFs to people who genuinely want equality, then the entire word seems completely meaningless. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 01:04 PM |
| 19 | Showing interest is an affront?This is the #1 reason I have stayed single my entire life. I hate upsetting people or making them feel uncomfortable more than almost anything, so I just don't say anything. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 09:59 AM |
| 10 | How severe of a problem do you think "objectification" of women actually is?I remember the old days of the internet, when the idea that finding a woman attractive was “objectification” was literally the laughing stock of the entire web. To quote King Theoden; “How did it come to this?” | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 11:58 PM |
| 5 | Opinion: “Toxic Masculinity” is a heavily exaggerated issue, but feminists are starting to enforce itTrue. From what I gather, many stories were certainly a problem, but that's going back around 50 years. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 11:38 PM |
| 5 | Opinion: “Toxic Masculinity” is a heavily exaggerated issue, but feminists are starting to enforce itWasn't the toxic masculinity in that mostly a 1950's thing? I'm actually pretty ignorant about 007 so I'm open to being proven wrong. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 11:19 PM |
| 30 | Gentle reminder not to demonize all women. We cannot become whay we condemn.It’s upsetting that this is the case. I joined this group because I felt men and male issues are being made to feel shamed and stigmatised by feminism, but I equally don’t want this to happen to women either. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 11:05 PM |
| 9 | Opinion: “Toxic Masculinity” is a heavily exaggerated issue, but feminists are starting to enforce itReminds me of those girls who did the “Slenderman Stabbing”, who also believed that they were talking to Voldemort and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 10:26 PM |
| 94 | Gentle reminder not to demonize all women. We cannot become whay we condemn.I completely agree with this sentiment and I was thinking of making the same post. Women are perfectly capable of thinking for themselves, as are men, and there are plenty of both that don't fall into this misandrist culture that we're currently living through. Culture is not all consuming, and we can always find substantial numbers of people who can throw off harmful and evil attitudes in the times that they live. "The feminist movement has become a symbol of hate through the actions of both me… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 08:47 PM |
| 3 | lovely seeing stuff like this at a school that ignored my sexual assault and treated me as a monster for avoiding the perpetrator. email was simply titled "Engaging Men"Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 08:41 PM |
| 3 | lovely seeing stuff like this at a school that ignored my sexual assault and treated me as a monster for avoiding the perpetrator. email was simply titled "Engaging Men"Can I see this study? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 07:39 PM |
| 8 | What I hate most about the anti men hate...There is a significant portion of people out there that need to hate. Hate is the only thing that drives these people. Believe me, I’ve tried to be nice to these people, I’ve tried to treat them with respect. I’ve got a few to realise how wrong this is, but in 97% of cases they throw it back in your face. The argument they use to justify this is “We can insult men and treat them like shit because they all want to kill/attack us, so even if we tear them down and destroy them we still have the mor… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 07:14 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to relationships and sex, does anyone else get the feeling that men are only told what NOT to do?Thanks for your thoughts, personally I thought this was a helpful perspective. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 04:22 PM |
| 22 | I(19m)was falsely accused of being a creep by a woman(45?) in my office. I can't take this anymore.“ I even apologized to her if i made her feel uncomfortable.” If you apologise, people will take it as an admission of guilt. Never apologise if you didn’t do anything wrong. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 04:19 PM |
| 4 | Newsflash ChatGPT: it's not appropriate.Did you do a control and ask it for a joke about women? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 12:38 AM |
| 9 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being single“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 12:07 AM |
| 19 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleIf someone is upset about a word constantly being used to prod at their insecurities, defending the use of the word by saying “your group isn’t oppressed” doesn’t generally help matters. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 10:46 PM |
| 6 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being single“ The thing is - people like this are a simulacrum of the people they hate so much. Very close to similar but not the exact same. When I say "both parties" - this is what I mean. I don't mean they are literally the same, I mean they copy each others tactics, antics, and attitude. It's just the chosen passions are different.” This is completely true, it’s something I’ve noticed as well. I had a conversation with one of these feminists and they said, word for word: “facts don’t care about your fee… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleTrue, though I think they are doing a very good job indeed of displaying the exact kind of ill-conceived sociopathy that I called out in my original post, and showing why it’s become a pervasive problem. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 08:49 PM |
| 9 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleThen they should at least have the basic sense of self-awareness to admit that it’s an insult and they can’t even be bothered to do that. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 06:50 PM |
| 11 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleThrowing statistics like that around are really helpful. “This thing makes me upset” “Well, acktually, statistically speaking people with this insecurity have a greater than 50% chance of being worthless pieces of shit, so just suck it up and take it!” So very wise, helpful and compassionate. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 06:43 PM |
| 12 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singlewhy do i even bother | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 06:30 PM |
| 21 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleI actually got into this when I found out that there were people online who had a problem with this word, so I brought this up when I saw it used casually as an insult. At first the pushback wasn’t so bad, I could accept that there were a few people out there who just got a kick out of putting people down. But the fact that this sort of thing happened over and over again, the fact that every time I mentioned or brought this up I would get an insane level of backlash, abuse and constant denial th… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 06:13 PM |
| 8 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being single“If you don’t identify as an incel, relax.” This is not helpful advice. As many others online have stated, when you’re already upset or insecure about being single and you hear the phrase “incel” used ONLY as derogatory, only as an insult, again and again…then it’s not going to help with that is it? You do realise how that will make things worse, don’t you? Because if you don’t realise what the problem is, if you continue to mount more shame and more blame upon the people suffering from this…the… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 05:46 PM |
| 39 | Imagine not understanding that the word “Incel” as an insult can be upsetting to people who are insecure about being singleThe other worst response is when people will say “well some misogynists use it as a self-identifier”…And? So what? This is like arguing “Well the gay man Milo Yiannopolis used the word “faggot” as a self-identifier, so when I use the term “faggot” as an insult it’s okay”. Like, how could you possibly be callous/unintelligent enough to not understand the problem?! | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 05:15 PM |
| 5 | Feeling lonelyPeople in general have no coping mechanism for opposing viewpoints. It’s one of the most serious problems for society. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/23 08:17 PM |
| 3 | The reason that misandrists are fighting so hard is because the men’s equality movement is winningThe thing I always try to remember is that all fights for oppressed people have one thing in common: they are never easy. It is very easy to come out and say “Women are better than men”, it is not so easy to come out and say “Society creates problems for men that is not the fault of men”. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/23 08:02 PM |
| 3 | The reason that misandrists are fighting so hard is because the men’s equality movement is winningThat’s why I said the methodology used by this study, including the question asked, was extremely flawed and it’s concerning they didn’t even both with asking a control question; though this is a different topic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/23 11:53 AM |
| 6 | The reason that misandrists are fighting so hard is because the men’s equality movement is winninghttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/09/womens-rights-have-gone-far-say-majority-gen-z-millennials-study/ You’re right, the wording of the question is utter bullshit, this kind of thing would never have been accepted in any undergraduate science project, the fact that a published study is allowing this sort of thing shows that the social science community is beyond disrepair. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/23 06:21 PM |
| 4 | At a crossroads with my long distance gfI will offer some advice, but please take it with a huge grain of salt since I have no first hand experience with this kind of thing and everything I know comes from other sources. Firstly, as I understand it, these sorts of things happen all the time, regardless of your partner, especially if you’re just starting out. Charles Bukowski had this to say: “Only the first two weeks had any zing, then the participants lost their interest. Masks dropped away and real people began to appear”. So it’s c… | /r/MenSupportMen | 14/03/23 02:40 PM |
| 2 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for meThanks for the advice, and especially about the context being important. For example, online I’ve tried actually questioning people and it fails about 95% of the time, but then there’s that 5% who ultimately do change their minds. I always try to accept that other people have different opinions, not assuming their intentions because they may have completely different reasons for holding them. But then when people can’t be bothered to reciprocate and give me the same basic courtesy is what gets i… | /r/MenSupportMen | 14/03/23 01:43 PM |
| 4 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for meI think the important thing to do is never accept this as normal. It is never normal to be made ashamed of your gender or sex, or treated like there’s something wrong with it. | /r/MenSupportMen | 14/03/23 10:20 AM |
| 9 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for me“ She occasionally has her feminist moments but it’s rare and she’s always open to a discussion on it.” That’s literally all I’m asking for, I don’t want people to give up their views or agree with me in everything. I just want people in general to stop treating me worse than a piece of shit that they just scraped off of their shoe. | /r/MenSupportMen | 13/03/23 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for meThis is essentially what I’ve been doing. Every time I get subjected to this, I just leave whatever group I’m in. Unfortunately this has been causing me to cut off quite a large amount of groups but it’s better than doing nothing. | /r/MenSupportMen | 13/03/23 03:12 AM |
| 13 | Misandry is making things genuinely difficult for meI’m sort of in the inverted position in that I’ve never been very social. I keep thinking that I should try to be more social but every time I try to go to these sorts of things I might be interested, I end up feeling way more isolated than I did before. I’m sorry you have to go through all that, your situation is much worse than mine, partly because I’m already pretty much used to having zero social life as it is. That’s also the reason I don’t really know how to deal with it… | /r/MenSupportMen | 12/03/23 11:14 PM |
| 25 | A lie that needs to die: "Men Won't Take Birth Control if They Had it."I can’t believe that anyone would see men this way when male homelessness and suicides are through the roof. They have to be utterly delusional. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 09:59 PM |
| 74 | A lie that needs to die: "Men Won't Take Birth Control if They Had it."Most Feminists: Men shouldn’t comment on women’s issues or their perspective, they should listen and believe women’s loved experiences Also most feminists: Women should be allowed to tell men what their perspectives are, how they feel and how pathetic and worthless they are and men should just shut up and take it. Do they not see how obviously evil they are? It’s like, whenever someone says a villain in a story is “too 1 dimensional” or “too obviously evil”, I always have to remind myself that t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 08:12 PM |
| 10 | Books with subtle male struggle themesNot a book, but one of the few stories I've seen which seems to deal with actual male issues of things like building confidence is "Over The Garden Wall". It's less than two hours long but it's one of the best stories I've ever seen, I cannot recommend it strongly enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Does radical feminism damage the profile of women's rights?These words have a variety of meanings, but at least I can say something meaningful like “someone who identifies as a capitalist is not a communist”: the term has some value and grounding in reality. I cannot make a similar argument for someone who describes themselves as a feminist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 08:09 PM |
| 34 | Does radical feminism damage the profile of women's rights?She is the writer of such delightful lines as: “Yes, All Men Only a small percentage of men attack women, but the majority let it happen” At times, her rants go from bigoted to downright unhinged, such as “perhaps you are looking forward to the sweet respite afforded to us in death – silence from a world of misogynists and mansplainers. But guess again, my friends, because there is no rest for sexism – even when we’re long gone.” She justifies her evil and her hatred using the same, tired old ex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 05:46 PM |
| 22 | Does radical feminism damage the profile of women's rights?I would argue Jessica Valenti is probably the worst of these radical feminist types. She had the biggest platform and used it to spread the most harmful and hateful rhetoric imaginable: she’s essentially the Ann Coulter of the feminist movement. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 05:04 PM |
| 29 | Does radical feminism damage the profile of women's rights?I have no idea what feminism is, literally no clue. Some self described feminists hate men and think that they should be shamed for being “incels”, others think that the incel slur is harmful and men’s rights should be supported alongside women’s rights. There is literally no connection between these groups. Therefore the word “feminist” has no meaning. So for instance, when someone says “I am a capitalist”, or “I am a communist”, I have a general idea of what their beliefs are. But when someone… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 05:02 PM |
| 117 | Highlighting the hypocrisy of feminists with respect to the JK Rowling drama and Mens RightsFeminists: Men are constantly told to be ashamed of their emotions and vulnerability by the patriarchy. We should be more accepting! Men: Good idea, maybe we should start with the most serious issues around male vulnerability, like the lack of funding for shelters around male sexual assault… Feminists: SHUT UP BIGOT! YOU SHOULD LEARN TO MAN UP! SEXUAL ASSAULT AGAINST MEN IS A MYTH! NO ONE ASKED ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS! FACTS DON’T CARE ABOIT YOUR FEELINGS! (That last line “facts don’t care about you… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Strategies for dealing with anger and/or bitternessPS As for the second one, the act of kindness doesn’t have to be anything big. Just a meaningful compliment to someone, like telling them that their art or clothing is nice, or a nice word here and there, can really help both you and them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 02:54 AM |
| 101 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Feminism and conservatives agree on a HELL of a lot. Conservatives love shaming men for being “virgins” and “beta males”, feminists call those same people “incels”. These sorts of feminists HAVE to believe that their opposition is exclusively made of misogynists, that their opposition hates women JUST as much as these feminists hate men. This is how they justify their evil and cruelty “Oh well I’m no worse than my opposition”. This is why the cling so tightly to the straw man: they can’t admit t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 11:08 AM |
| 3 | The “incel” slur is making it impossible for me to use the internetThank you for the advice, I do have a little journal where I sometimes write short stories and poems, I think I will use it more often now | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 03:17 PM |
| 7 | The “incel” slur is making it impossible for me to use the internet“ Spending less time online more time IRL with real people you want to be around is super important for real connection.” If there’s any silver lining here, it’s that I’ve basically cut my social media usage by about 95% because of this so I’m not wasting nearly as much time on it. Still, I think there are larger points that can be made about how this word can be hurtful that ought to be addressed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Systemic Sexism: UN's Gender Inequality Index does not measure gender inequalitySounds interesting | /r/MensRights | 05/02/23 12:51 AM |
| 8 | Some thoughts on the great portrayal of masculinity in Red Dead Redemption IIThis is a valuable point, in fact I agree that this concept of “sacrificial masculinity”, while being useful and relatable to some people in certain circumstances, is not something that can apply to everyone’s interpretation or personal take on masculinity, and like most thing it can be harmful if taken too far and applied too broadly. However I still think it’s worthwhile talking about it as a specific aspect of some people’s vision of masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/23 02:32 PM |
| 10 | Some thoughts on the great portrayal of masculinity in Red Dead Redemption IIThis post was inspired by a recent video from Sisphyus 55 on Masculinity. I believe this YouTube dropped the ball HARD on that video: he provides nothing helpful besides basically saying “the superficial trappings of masculinity like fishing are okay as long as you don’t identify with it any further because of how bad and toxic it is”. As someone uninterested in most of the the trappings but interested in the core concept, this was about as unhelpful a take on masculinity as I could hope for(som… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/23 01:17 AM |
| 43 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultOne thing which I think needs addressing is the absolute HORSESHIT dodge of “Oh incel is a self-identifier used by toxic misogynists who belong to a woman-hating subculture”. Never, even in my life have I heard anyone use the term “incel” as a self-identifier: it’s an insult, a slur, nothing more. This is merely an excuse these people use to justify male virgin-shaming: do they really think men struggling with this problem are going to see comments about how evil and toxic incels are and find th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Feminism: A case study on how ideas take on virulent, dangerous lives of their ownI found out about them through Dawkins and stayed for Dennett | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/01/23 10:46 PM |
| 19 | Is the whole redpill "female imperative" thing true?I mean it’s about as true as arguing that men only value women for their ability to provide and produce babies. That’s obviously nonsense, men value women for their personality etc. Evolution is obviously true, but that doesn’t mean we can use it to make these sorts of “Evolution leads to women preferring men who increase genetic survivability” generalisations. The reasons why certain behaviours evolve is almost never as simple as “Adaptation Y leads to behaviour X which propagates the species”.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/23 10:38 PM |
| 2 | A discussion on videos and media for men dealing with loneliness, social anxiety and issues with dating (W/ resources)I’m in the exact same position. I personally found these helpful and I hope others do to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 11:58 AM |
| 4 | Who's gatekeeping the discussion?Arthur Schopenhauer is my favourite philosopher of all time. I don’t agree with him on everything, and I really don’t like any of his thoughts on women, but his opinions on things like ontology and animal rights are so far ahead of his time it’s almost scary. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/23 07:04 PM |
| 6 | A discussion on videos and media for men dealing with loneliness, social anxiety and issues with dating (W/ resources)Ir's interesting you should mention that, because I actually tried to upload that section to this subreddit, but sadly it doesn't allow videos. It felt really cathartic to see him put that into words. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/23 03:52 PM |
| 22 | What do you guys think of “Positive Masculinity”?I’m interested into why there are no discussions of “toxic femininity” or “positive femininity”. Surely these should also be considered as equally serious issues? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/23 05:04 PM |
| 45 | Vaush’s commentary on men’s issues: “How The Left Made Andrew Tats Popular”As far as I can tell, “feminism” means so many different things, ranging from genuine equality to outright misandry, that I can barely even understand it as a coherent concept. It reminds me of this exchange from “Alice in Wonderland”,: “ When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’ ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’ ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/23 12:55 AM |
| 28 | Vaush’s commentary on men’s issues: “How The Left Made Andrew Tats Popular”Possibly, but the fact that he, as a well-known on the left, showed even a single modicum of empathy towards lonely men is, for me, literally leagues ahead of anything else I’ve seen so far. The fact that it’s even being acknowledged as an issue worth discussing makes me feel like I’ve wandered into a (considerably better) alternate universe. I suspect Vaush’s autism has so something to do with, since I’ve seen plenty of examples of boys and men with autism getting hit particularly hard by this … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/23 12:25 AM |
| 57 | I believe reddit HATES men. My experience:One I literally just said “shaking people for being an “incel” or a “femcel” is messed up”. I got downvoted into oblivion, someone just replied “found the incel”, got a whole bunch of upvotes and people just attacked and insulted me so much I had to delete my comment, something I’ve literally never felt the need to do before. If this is the reaction to the most banal, harmless pushback against the use of a slur then something is seriously wrong. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/12/22 10:07 PM |
| 50 | This sub is growing. Let’s help fuel that.Oh, absolutely. When men, or anyone for that matter, are ragged on, insulted and shamed by everyone around them for being "incels" or "losers", or body shamed for "small dick energy", then they will inevitably turn to someone, ANYONE, who offers them even the slightest bit of empathy. Which of course is the ripest harvest for the most bad faith, toxic actors to radicalise them, such as Andrew Tate. Solving issues like this is the easiest thing in the world. All it requires is GOOD FAITH empathy … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?Sorry to hear about your illness, and you definitely shouldn’t do anything that could endanger your health. Really all most reasonable vegans are arguing for is that people acknowledge the unjustifiable immorality of the treatment of animals. I’m just disheartened when people don’t take this issue seriously or get aggressive over it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 06:59 PM |
| 101 | I am blown away at how many people are applauding Greta Thunberg for D-shaming Andrew Tate.There was a whole spat on the left about whether it was appropriate to make jokes about nudes of Ben Shapiro’s far-right sister, and thankfully the result of the fight seemed to be “It’s not okay to body shame, even if the people involved are the scummiest imaginable, because that just normalises body shaming as a whole.” Of course, this rational and reasonable argument goes completely out of the window when discussing men, ’cos it’s okay to reduce their value to their genitals apparently. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 02:45 AM |
| 2 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?Yeah , it’s particularly annoying whenever I post anything to do with veganism getting downvoted into oblivion, usually by people who don’t even want to engage with the arguments. Same thing happens with gender issues, almost as it people don’t really want to think about it for whatever reason… I’m also a fan of Earthling Ed, though I really like Alex O’Connor/Cosmic Skeptics videos on the matter. Thanks for your comment, it’s really reliving to see other people who care about this sort of thing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 07:54 PM |
| 1 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?I’m going to be a bit brutally honest here, but the more you understand about humanity and the world, the harder it is to make peace with. To cut a long strong short, as bad as the views on men is in society, (and don’t get me wrong it IS bad), I’ve been heavily involved with the whole vegan movement, and literally nothing else on the planet compares to just how mind-destroyingly awful peoples’ views are regarding veganism and the whole treatment of animals therein. At the end of the day, the on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Those who have contempt for “toxic masculinity” have a FAR greater contempt for femininityTrue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/22 04:54 PM |
| 21 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredYou raise a lot of valid points here. So many issues could be solved if people actually showed a bare minimum of empathy towards men in these situations, but the left and the right seemed to have agreed, albeit for different reasons, that you can just shut down anyone with these problems by shouting “FOUND THE INCEL!!!” and leaving it at that. We need a wider discussion and raising awareness of this issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Those who have contempt for “toxic masculinity” have a FAR greater contempt for femininity“ And also a few of the prominent "strong female characters" are blondes with blue eyes.” Good catch, I didn’t even notice that until now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/22 02:20 AM |
| 17 | Those who have contempt for “toxic masculinity” have a FAR greater contempt for femininityAbsolutely true, society does heavily discourage it, in fact it takes discouragement of masculinity way too far. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Quotes that represent my views on masculinityThat interpretation certainly works too, it’s a story that can have fit many different perspectives and that’s one of my favourite things about it. I would definitely recommend the book, there are a few scenes that were cut from the book in there. I know there was also a comic-book (Marvel, I think?) adaptation which is incredibly good too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/22 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Quotes that represent my views on masculinityI think that one half of this interpretation is summed up quite well on the TV Tropes page “it all but mentions it with Molly's story ("Where were you when I was new!? When I was one of those young and innocent maidens you always come to!?") and unicorns being described as being incredibly pure creatures. You could even say the Unicorn/Amalthea carries this allegory in her journey, starting by being this innocent, pure creature who doesn't know much of the world of men, and once turned into an a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/22 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Quotes that represent my views on masculinityThat’s just my perspective of positive aspects of masculinity, but I respect it if you see it otherwise. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Quotes that represent my views on masculinity“ world is trying to prevent you from being or expressing masculinity but you are standing strong” No, that’s definitely not the intention behind the quotes for mr. The idea behind it is much more general, in that it’s about standing strong in the face of any kind of adversity. In fact, it can often be the reverse of what you said: sometimes it can be about expressing more feminine qualities, rather than masculine qualities, and not letting negative reactions get to you or prevent you from doing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 01:11 PM |
| 95 | misandry in LGBT community?There’s plenty of misandry in anti-LGBT spaces too (Sinfest is a major example). Misandry is accepted and justified pretty much everywhere at this point (look at how both right and “left” wingers LOVE to insult ‘incels’) so I don’t really see any point in singling one group out. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:40 PM |
| 14 | Positive depictions of male characters in fiction“War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.” -Faramir, the Two Towers | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/22 08:57 AM |
| 6 | On the failed feminist colonisation of traditionally “male” geek spacesI agree with you quite a lot here. I wouldn't say I prefer the gaming landscape now, considering things like KOTOR and New Vegas were easily some of the best gaming stories, but I also wouldn't say it's gone downhill like everything else has; in terms of storytelling, it's remained relatively consistent. Same goes for animation, in fact; these things have not been nearly as badly affected as live action films and TV Series. This is, in my opinion, because animation and video games are still look… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/22 12:59 AM |
| 9 | On the failed feminist colonisation of traditionally “male” geek spacesExactly how I felt about it; the Doctor is a fundamentally masculine character, it’s just that his version of masculinity is very different from most cultural depictions of male characters. You can’t just muck around it that and not expect it to go wrong. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/22 11:00 PM |
| 24 | On the failed feminist colonisation of traditionally “male” geek spacesThis is an accurate analogy for what I was trying to get across. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/22 07:25 PM |
| 28 | Finding validation in positive masculinity as a young transguyI’m so sorry you have to go through that. The thing that turned me against the feminist movement was seeing the extent it was used just as an excuse to hate men, so sadly I wasn’t surprised when a great deal of the movement turned against trans-men in particular. The reason I’m a leftist is because I genuinely do want to treat people equally. Words like “feminist” are inherently divisive, and division is something the right wants, not the left. So I think you are onto something when you describe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/11/22 05:35 PM |
| 20 | Is it time we talked about male heroism?Didn’t you get the memo? It’s the 2020’s, we’re not allowed to say men are inherently valuable for anything! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/22 05:31 PM |
| 59 | People are more sceptical of sex difference research when findings favour men - The British Psychological SocietyEven the fucking wording of the study itself favours women “ they may also, as above, be using their knowledge of the history of badly done and sexist research to make a guess about the quality of the work.” Literally the only time this article, which is about men being disadvantaged, uses the term “sexist” is when something doesn’t favour women. Beyond parody. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/22 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingThat's insane. Is there a video of this conference anywhere? It sounds incredibly useful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/09/22 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Post-2015 feminism has been an extremely well timed help for the CIA and Wall StreetFair enough, it’s good to be sceptical. I however think that it’s worth a few raised eyebrows at least. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Post-2015 feminism has been an extremely well timed help for the CIA and Wall StreetI provided the context in the original post. It’s quoted word for word from the verified Wikileaks Twitter account. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/22 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Post-2015 feminism has been an extremely well timed help for the CIA and Wall StreetI’m definitely not saying there’s one single cause for everything, but I do find it more than likely that the CIA had at least a part to play in this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYeah, I’ve read a few of the books and played the Witcher III, and I really like how the female characters like Ciri are handled there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/09/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingIt’s great to see a character have one win in a movie, like Luke. But that’s not the same as solving every single problem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 06:02 PM |
| 4 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingLuke got destroyed in his first lightsaber duel. Rey did not. Luke got destroyed in his first fight in the desert. Rey did not. Luke needed to wait until his third film to use a Jedi mind trick. Rey did not. Luke was incapable of defeating the Emperor. Rey was not. Luke required Artoo to fix the hyperdrive for him when it wasn’t working. Rey did not. Everything you stated about Rey and Luke having identical arcs is simply wrong. Luke’s arc was about him learning that violence is ultimately wrong… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingI don’t think so, I stopped watching Disney Star Wars in cinemas after TFA because of how much of a Mary Sue she was, doing mind tricks and lightsaber duels with no training. Also the original Mary Sue was captured: does that stop her from being a Mary Sue? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingI find Luke’s arc, where he actually has to fight a full-powered Vader and doesn’t have any combat experience, to be much more interesting than Rey’s arc, who has to fight a weakened Kylo Ren and has so much off-screen combat experience. So these things you mentioned make her arc worse, not better, and don’t save her from being a Mary Sue. I would recommend you watch Star Wars Rebels if you haven’t already. The main character in that is an orphan who has to learn the force and has abandonment is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 11:10 AM |
| 2 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writing1) Those three you mentioned are interesting, because I agree. Most portrayals of those characters (as far as I am aware) are Mary Sues. That’s why I don’t really like them. And it’s why it’s very sad that this kind of character is now being brought into Star Wars, too. 2) Most of those things apply to the original Mary Sue. She had issues with her ancestry, died and was arrogant. The issue with Rey is that she just constantly wins at everything…she beats Kylo Ren multiple times, she beats Palpa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 10:25 AM |
| 4 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingI respect your opinion but a moment of weakness doesn’t stop the character from being a Mary Sue. In fact the original Mary Sue had a “moment of weakness”, here’s a direct quote: “ In a moment of weakness Lt. Mary Sue revealed to Mr. Spock that she too was half Vulcan.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 09:02 AM |
| 10 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writing“ highly supported by feminists of the time” This is a key point…the feminists of the time are nothing like modern-day feminists. If you asked me back in those days, I was actually relatively positive when it came to feminism…perhaps I would have even identified as one of you asked me. But certainly not any more. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Feminists coplaining about "boys being quirky" is them trying to have their cake and eat it tooThis was really interesting: I picked up on this exact issue a whole back, but I didn’t know it was called the “Galbrush Paradox” til now. I did a bit of Googling and found a really well done blog post which goes into further detail on this: https://jackfisherbooks.com/2017/06/29/the-galbrush-paradox-and-the-challenge-of-female-characters/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 03:04 PM |
| 0 | How the trans community destroyed feminismSince the post is gone, I don't know if it matters, but statistics for the term "feminist" being used in news articles can be seen here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?cat=16&date=all&geo=GB&q=feminist | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 06:45 PM |
| 13 | how to get men to support men more?EDIT: Why is this being downvoted? I’m not saying this is a good thing (it is NOT) but it’s still true. The impulse to protect women is an extremely ingrained trait, evolutionarily speaking. I’ll explain why: genetically, men are WAY more expendable than women: say you have a group of ten men and ten women. If 9 men die, the population is still somewhat viable as the ma can just impregnate 10 women, meaning 10 children can be born after 9 months. However, if 9 women die, the group is basically d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/22 06:50 PM |
| 37 | Apex fallacy and the cringeworthy irrationality of RationalWiki.org“Rational” wiki is dog shit, I haven’t been on that site in a decade. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/06/22 06:13 PM |
| 6 | Mass shootings and the Men's Rights Movement & "Manosphere."The NRA will be pleased to learn there’s yet another societal issue other than guns to blame… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/22 09:59 PM |
| 7 | A feminist guide to moderating male spaces: their answer? Censorship. Censor like there’s no tomorrow and remind them of their place.And then it turns out the “Nazi symbols” we’re actually Buddhist symbols, because they invented the Swastika first, and all they succeeded in doing was making Buddhists feel unwelcome | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/22 08:22 AM |
| 3 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")It’s basically saying that anyone who teaches kids about lgbt issues is trying to brainwash them | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/22 11:59 AM |
| 56 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")Once you start thinking it is okay to hate someone for harmless characteristics that they were born with, such as hating men, then it never stops. It opens the doorway for more and more hate, more and more bigotry...and this is how we get lunatics like Qanon. This is the basis of a moral theory known as "virtue ethics" which states that actions (such as hating men) will essentially "rot" your moral character and turn you into a far worse person than you were before. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 05:57 PM |
| 39 | Has anyone else noticed this shift in feminism…If a woman sees me and is scared because the data says I could potentially hurt her, I am not offended and completely understand. I suspect that perpetuating this sort of attitude is part of the reason why incels exist. If you tell men over and over again that women are scared of them, even if they have never done anything to hurt them, is it any wonder that they would not be able to attempt to talk to women? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Fundamentalist feminism and ChristianityI think this is a fair point in that you can probably find these parallels in other contemporary ideologies too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 10:59 AM |
| 6 | How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotry“Sorry bub…The right wing and feminism have very different ideas about what who men are.” This post wasn’t even about how the right/feminists ides about who/what men are. That’s an entirely separate point. “A meme does not an ideology make” Ideologies are memes, in the original sense of the word, as memes are ideas that spread through individuals as vectors. Often ideologies can act as a collection on memes, in the same way a “school” is a collection of fish. To ignore memes when discussing ideo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/22 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Men and women face serious gendered issues and both deserve focus“consider that if you published a similar post in a Feminist subreddit, inviting to be more mindful about male's issues, you would likely be a lot more controversial than you are being here.” There’s a Thomas Paine quote which says “to try to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like trying to administer medicine to the dead.” Much of Feminism has become unsalvageable, which is why I just try to avoid discussions with feminists altogether. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/22 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Men and women face serious gendered issues and both deserve focusI can’t find any statistics on that, could I have a link? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/22 06:16 AM |
| 15 | Men and women face serious gendered issues and both deserve focus“nothing wrong with focusing only on that on here.” This is completely true. The reason I posted this is that I think it is good to remind ourselves, occasionally, that there are legitimate issues and worries that women face, especially considering the number of vapid and superficial issues that feminists seem intent on focusing on. Likewise, I think feminists could do with reminders that men encounter serious societal worries that can’t be handwaved away with ‘muh patriarchy’. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/22 10:33 PM |
| 11 | Men and women face serious gendered issues and both deserve focusI believe that both genders face serious issues thanks to capitalism. This is partially why I am so opposed to feminism: it prevents men from having their issues seriously addressed because they always pivot to “oh women have had it worse so men can shut up and take it!” Regardless of which gender (if any) has it “worse”, we still shouldn’t downplay it when men or women face serious issues that can have tremendously negative effects on their life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/22 09:50 PM |
| 11 | "Male privilege" and "toxic masculinity" were identified as perpetuating negative stereotypes about men in a recent psychology textbook published by Springer“ saying that you are involuntarily celibate implies that you think somebody owes you sex.” No it objectively doesn’t. “ I don’t claim I’m involuntarily celibate.” Good for you. Neither do I. But just because you or I, personally, don’t use that does NOT make it okay to shame people who do consider themselves as “involuntarily celibate”. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/22 05:37 PM |
| 21 | "Male privilege" and "toxic masculinity" were identified as perpetuating negative stereotypes about men in a recent psychology textbook published by SpringerMaybe let’s not use “incel” as an insult. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/22 03:53 PM |
| 4 | "Men's issues are considered much more important and worthy of attention than women's issues by society"The world is a complex place. If we said "well we need to focus on this issue before we can address the next issue", as if every societal problem needed to be addressed consecutively like they're on some kind of conveyer belt, then we'd never get anything done. It's like when anti-vegans say to vegans "we need to fix all human issues before we can start to focus on animal cruelty". We're never going to fix all human issues, so that's just a roundabout way of saying we should never focus on anima… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/22 02:33 PM |
| 32 | "Men's issues are considered much more important and worthy of attention than women's issues by society"What would probably happen is you'd get a bunch of snarky comments saying "Oh yeah? Well, women's issues weren't taken seriously for 5 bajillion years, so I guess it's men's turn not to be taken seriously!" Which would all get 42069 upvotes. As if it's somehow impossible to think that maybe we should live in a society that can take the issues of both men and women seriously. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/22 01:06 PM |
| 10 | What do you guys think about this? I definitely think he should have helped, but was it his obligation to help?Getting involved might have escalated the situation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/22 01:10 PM |
| 26 | "Incel Shaming" is just virgin shaming with a new coat of paintThis is an excellent point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/22 05:05 PM |
| 121 | "Incel Shaming" is just virgin shaming with a new coat of paintAlso, Liana K is an example of why the feminist movement fundamentally confuses me. Because there are example of people who call themselves feminists who I agree with on 95% of issues, but then there are also people who call themselves feminists who I agree with on around 0% of issues. If the term “feminist” can apply to such a vast, contradictory array of people, then I don’t understand what the point of the word is at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/22 02:01 PM |
| 5 | This kind of thing angers me, it really does. Feminists are always going on about “toxic masculinity” and “men not showing tenor feelings”, yet when a man does express their genuine feelings of hurt, they pounce on them and try to make them ashamed for their emotionsThat wasn’t my comment though, it was somebody else’s that I saw online. I basically agree with what you said, but the point I was making was that the kind of response given is awful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 07:14 PM |
| 7 | This kind of thing angers me, it really does. Feminists are always going on about “toxic masculinity” and “men not showing tenor feelings”, yet when a man does express their genuine feelings of hurt, they pounce on them and try to make them ashamed for their emotionsAlso the title was meant to say “their” not “tenor”, but I guess autocorrect thought that “tenor” was a more useful word for some reason… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 04:09 PM |
| 29 | This kind of thing angers me, it really does. Feminists are always going on about “toxic masculinity” and “men not showing tenor feelings”, yet when a man does express their genuine feelings of hurt, they pounce on them and try to make them ashamed for their emotionsContext: This was on a video discussing intersectionality in video games, so the first person’s response was relevant | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/22 04:04 PM |
| 6 | Is there a name for the common feminist fallacy of turning a privilege into oppression?This is pretty much textbook "Confirmation Bias", and even more specifically a form of "Persistence of discredited beliefs". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/22 11:18 PM |
| 13 | it seems like the majority of women are misandrist.No I think this is going a bit far, it's probably due to how tiktok delibrately promotes the most extreme views. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/22 07:59 PM |
| 10 | Confused about feminists' prioritiesThis is the whole point of feminism and Idenitiy Politics. Ask yourself, when did IDPol become popular and mainsteam? If you track all this stuff back, then it began in the wake of the 2008 crash, and the Wall Street Bailouts. The Left was finally becoming a serious political force because they focused on economic concerns, so what the mainstream culture did is create a huge fight over stupid feminist issues so that the left would be broken up and stop being a threat. And it worked, beatifully. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 04:44 PM |
| 6 | No, women don't like dating bad boysThere’s a recurring theme in fictional romance stories where a woman thinks she can “fix” these “bad boys”. 50 shades of grey for example. However, if women were really attracted to these people in real life and they did “fix” them, wouldn’t they get bored with them afte they were “fixed”? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/22 09:19 AM |
| 7 | “Bombing innocent people in the Middle East for oil is good because feminism”Yes the link is in the thread. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 08:22 PM |
| 6 | “Bombing innocent people in the Middle East for oil is good because feminism”I mostly agree, however, the one nitpick I have is that this isn’t just an instinct that makes us human, as even a huge number of animals still have the instinct to protect their children. So in a way you sort of undersold how awful she was, in that even many animals wouldn’t do the kind of thing she did. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 04:40 PM |
| 13 | “Bombing innocent people in the Middle East for oil is good because feminism”That whole scenario sounds so gross. This person sounds so consumed by ideology that they’re willing to parade their own kids around like pariahs just for the attention. Adding onto that, Ben Shapiro swooping down on the situation like a Carrion Crow to try and make a profit out of it…this is why I haven’t had anything to do with the mainstream press in years. It’s not really a conscious effort it’s just that a value their perspective so little that I can’t be bothered to read them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 04:02 PM |
| 51 | “Bombing innocent people in the Middle East for oil is good because feminism”https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=historyfacpub “ white women often justified their political reform activity by asserting the need for their traditional feminine values and skills as mothers to be extended beyond the home into society to uplift women and children of other races and classes whom they characterized as oppressed.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 09:43 AM |
| 75 | “Bombing innocent people in the Middle East for oil is good because feminism”This is not the only time feminism has been used to justify atrocities. Native American children were torn away from their families with the support of feminists, who argued that they needed to be re-educated away from their patriarchal upbringing. A great many of these children were neglected and died, buried in unmarked graves. Always remember this when you hear quotes like: “ Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, pra… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 08:53 AM |
| 2 | Opinion: it is a mistake to force male centric stories to have female characters, and vice versa1) I never said Star Wars or LOTR was "for men". In fact that kind of goes against what I was saying. I said SW and LOTR were told from a male perspective, but this does not mean that they're "for men" exclusively, as women can still enjoy something from a male perspective. 2) George Lucas explicitly said he created Star Wars "For 12 year old boys". That being said Lucas also signed off on the aforementioned Clone Wars TV Series with Ahsoka Tano as the protagonist, but that wasn't part of the ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/22 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Genuine question: Does capitalism thrive of off "male suffering"?Saying “men built capitalism so it must benefit all men” is like saying “humans built nuclear bombs so they must benefit all humans”. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 03:10 PM |
| 13 | Why is the burden of knowing "good" from "bad" feminism placed solely on men?Feminism doesn’t exist, there are so many contradictory versions of it that it means nothing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/21 09:11 PM |
| 10 | my sister has turned into a militant feministAlso using “pig” as an insult is pretty speciesist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 05:12 PM |
| 18 | I wanted to discuss this comment but I didn't want to comment on a woman centric subThe OP in that thread mentioned that no one said ‘not all women’ in regards to women making men uncomfortable. I’m pretty sure that’s because no one was claiming all women are potential rapists, however, many feminists claim all men are potential rapists which is why there’s a discrepancy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/21 11:19 AM |
| 11 | How toxic feminism bolsters the Far RightThe "hierachy of oppression" has always been about justifying bigotry and cruelty towards any group the user of the argument doesn't like, nothing more and nothing less. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/21 09:43 PM |
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