Vaush’s commentary on men’s issues: “How The Left Made Andrew Tats Popular”

Motanul_Negru · 2023-01-07T00:05:53+00:00

Saw it on its first day. Vaush is on point as usual in describing the problems he's talking about, but IIRC (might not, my memory has taken a nosedive in 2022) the solutions he offers basically amount to self-improvement on an individual basis, plus therapy (and an urging toward more radical feminists to take it easy with the misandry, but that's definitely not in the cards).

He also mentions practicing socialization like training a muscle a lot, I don't remember if he does so specifically in this clip, but it falls under self-improvement anyway.

I understand this stuff is genuinely helpful for more people than, well, anything the right has to offer, possibly combined; but for me, and most of the untold millions of lonely alienated men, he might as well be telling us to pick ourselves up by our bootstraps.

VisibleConcentrate77 · 2023-01-07T00:33:12+00:00

He's getting closer to getting it, but he still thinks feminism is the solution.

Stephen_Morgan · 2023-01-07T10:01:38+00:00

He looks relatively good here because he's talking to people worse than him. He's still not on the right side.

He likes to focus on promoting compassion for men with problems, and on loneliness. OK, but compassion doesn't actually address any of the real issues, and there are issues more suitable for political activism than the loneliness issue.

I saw him on with Ana Kasparian, they were talking about educational under achievement, and they were talking about having no idea what was causing it. Maybe a professional political commentator going onto a major platform to talk about an issue should look into that first. but then he'd have to talk about discrimination against men, and he's too bust talking about how none of what he's saying means focusing less on women.

zaph239 · 2023-01-07T11:47:47+00:00

To be honest I didn't know who Andrew Tate was till recently, not interested in celebrity trash. The idea that he would appeal to a rational incel like myself is laughable.

What I am suppose to be interested in roided up ravings of some reality TV star? Someone who claims a guy like me, who is rejected by women, can run my own harem if I just listen to his advice and presumably give him money? Why would I be taken in by such non-sense?

However people in both economic poverty and sexual poverty are vulnerable to being exploited by charlatans. The problem is, the left doesn't offer an alternative.

I ended up at a talk given by a feminist on the incel issue (don't ask what f**ked series of events led to that). It was jaw dropping, she disturbingly obsessed by Tate, it took up a lot of her talk. However what was truly disturbing was her solution to the Tate problem.

She thought that young men taken in by his non-sense should be indoctrinated with a dose of feminism. Now personally I had major doubts that it would good for the mental health of young men struggling to find a girl, to hand them over to a movement that was going to tell them that was down to them being toxic and that they deserved to be lonely.

Especially if any of those men had mental health issues.

Professional-You2968 · 2023-01-07T08:34:25+00:00

Vaush is not the advocate men need. If anything he is using the usual jargon to lure men into accepting some form of feminism.

Separate_Activity_37 · 2023-01-07T06:36:30+00:00

Vaush is better than 99% of the rest of the left here and even he has a little while to go to meet me where I'm at on this issue. kinda wack.

Liked the video. He was pretty obviously in the right about all the gender Twitter discourse as per usual.

YooGeOh · 2023-01-07T09:59:05+00:00

Anyone who hasn't watched Kidology's video on how the left could do better moe generally really needs to watch it

https://youtu.be/4wHHME_vhi8

AskingToFeminists · 2023-01-07T12:03:40+00:00

He's only a decade late in his thinking. Good for him...

hhhhhhikkmvjjhj · 2023-01-08T07:07:22+00:00

The resdon why Tate and Jordanian are popular is because the are able to promote a male centric worldview. The lefts feminist worldview revolves around women, and men’s issues are allowed to exist and take up space as long as it makes women richer and more powerful. This goes for the right as well, but there the issue is more about capitalism and poverty.

If the left is going to be able to sin back men they need to create policies which gets men laid, makes men richer and more influential. However this is impossible.

The left wing party in Sweden tried to do something for men in rural areas in the previous election but the feminist wing shot it down promptly as they saw it going against their feminist ideals and core principles.

And then the right wing parties won! Color me surprised. I was so frustrated with this I voted for the right wing in this election and I will most likely continue to do so. The only reason I did if not vote for the Swedish democrats was because they planned to use public shaming and humiliation to stem the violence wave Sweden is currently experiencing. However this is the exact reason why I hate feminists so much. I grew up with their shaming and guilt trips in family and school and it destroyed my sexuality. I hate shaming tactics and other bullying tactics no matter which side uses them.

Of course my mom who is a bully loves Greta. She gets validation that bullying is fine and a feminine virtue that society loves.

Stephen_Morgan · 2023-01-07T11:49:02+00:00

I notice that his most recent video right now is about misogyny.

Psychological_w1n · 2023-01-07T21:36:58+00:00

Can we please not look to freaks like him that not only defend consumption of CP, but clearly has some form of obsession with it?

https://archive.is/9DF8s

https://archive.is/PGNn6

https://streamable.com/k9905c

https://streamable.com/2f9m0d

https://streamable.com/vl21sn

He's a noncey weirdo. He's also dismissive of men's rights and him saying something as simple as "people should listen" isn't groundbreaking even if other lefties are shitting on him for saying something so daring.

2023-01-07T00:12:18+00:00

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Title	Vaush’s commentary on men’s issues: “How The Left Made Andrew Tats Popular”
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Date	January 6, 2023 8:28 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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