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Good stuff - Although, I actually already do exactly what you say in terms of breaking rapport from the answers to the standard getting-to-know-you questions. I guess partly what i'm saying though is that without using someone elses lines (for example, i'll probably now steal your one about roller skating in a thong) I'm unable to think of my own stuff and come up with far inferior lines that miss the mark. CERTAINLY when it comes to sexualising like your line here does. It's like there a patter…
/r/seduction29/08/17 05:07 PM
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Is this what you do? Do you do the same for the initial 'follow up' after the open? Or does your opener naturally lead into some sort of follow up statement/story etc? I kind of feel I need a good canned opener AND follow up in order to hook the girl, because once I reach the hook point, the odds of me getting what I want increase a fair bit. How do you typically open AND follow up for the first min or so when approaching girls in bars?
/r/seduction29/08/17 05:06 PM
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They say that what you say doesn't matter, it's how you say it, so I guess don't worry about a 'good reply'
/r/seduction29/08/17 03:39 PM
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I don't think direct really works for guys who aren't conventionally good looking
/r/seduction29/08/17 12:55 PM
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I say take her to pound town, although most of the guys here might disagree based on this recent thread : https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/65u8ca/holy_shit_another_lr_half_my_age/ This is mainly US people here who have different laws and maybe a slightly different culture, so expect some moralising! :)
/r/seduction18/04/17 10:28 AM
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cheers. What about the dancing girl? Forget that I sort of know her - What is the best way too approach on the dancefloor? Other guys seem to just grind on girls with very mixed results. Some guys speak in the girls ear, but I never know what sort of things they are saying? Are they just telling her she is cute? Are they saying something funny? (if so, what. I can't think of anything funny at the drop of a hat) I've tried all of those things and tend to fail, lol.
/r/seduction13/04/17 12:44 PM
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Getting past the opener, lol. I'm in the UK (and not in a big city) and so cold approaching, even in bars, usually gets a slightly startled, weirded out reaction from the girl since we don't talk to strangers! So after I open and she basically ignores me or gives me extremely abrupt answers, my weakness is being able to stick in their and 'attract' her to the point that she's hooked and wants me to stay. SO it's like I open. (the opener doesn't matter apparently, but lets say I'm just like ''Hey…
/r/seduction13/04/17 07:47 AM
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Too elaborate on what I saw. His main thing is actually his 're-approaching' which is something i've never really thought to do. If I open a girl and smile and she just looks at me like she's disgusted and turns her head away, i'd never re-approach! It would never cross my mind. But in some of his infields, he'd open a girl, she'd ignore him. He'd go back in like 20 minutes later with the same girl. She might basically ignore him again! Then he'll go in YET AGAIN, and suddenly she's luke warm as…
/r/seduction11/04/17 02:51 PM
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I'd just literally pick her up and walk her away, personally. If he tried again, i'd go for the arm-bar until he cried
/r/seduction10/04/17 10:18 AM
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I'm in the UK. 16 is legal, even if you are like 100 years old, lol
/r/seduction10/04/17 09:42 AM
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It's possible, but lots of girls will dismiss you straight away. I have a friend who is well into his 30's (35 I think) and he is always sleeping with teenagers. He most recently banged a gorgeous girl on her 16th birthday within about 20 minutes of meeting her! I'm 30 and I got with a 19 year old a while back It's possible, I guess. You need a bit of luck, though!
/r/seduction10/04/17 08:04 AM
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That's usually what I tel guys at my parties who are fuckingn around in my house doing shit they're not supposed to lol. LOL - I did wonder after if the way I phrased it didn't help matters, but that's just how lots of people speak here in the UK. I should have just said ''Are you trying to find the bathrooms?'', although to be honest, i'm pretty confident i'd have gotten a similar reaction The one thing that made me feel a bit better is some private vids I saw last night from Alex who used to w…
/r/seduction10/04/17 07:51 AM
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How do you make them laugh? What sort of things do you say?
/r/seduction05/04/17 09:23 PM
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US girls are friendly and talkative as FUCK, lol!!
/r/seduction04/04/17 08:16 AM
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no, i'm agreeing with you. I obviously DID bore them, lol. That's why I need help with hooking. The other guy mentioend opening with a joke which is what I shall do going forward. But like, after the joke, i'll need to start a conversation, and since asking their name/age/where they're from etc etc are 'out of bounds', I need some ideas about what i AM supposed to say - or maybe just fo straight into a palm reading. I just worry about looking like a performing magician type character (especially…
/r/seduction03/04/17 07:17 PM
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You are not listening. Please listen very carefully to what ThirtyWize is saying I did. You should re-read it. He says the questions about age and stuff don't help, but telling a joke can give you a glimpse into her personality, so i'm assuming he often opens with a joke. And then i'm assuming how he follows it up (if not asking her name, age, what she's up too that night etc Then, listen very carefully to what the women you approach are saying.) UK girls usually don't tend to say anything to st…
/r/seduction03/04/17 08:06 AM
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Lying to yourself that you wonna "know her " is kinda fucked up. To most guys being hot makes her worthy to be approached and banged. Yeah, I agree. I think it kind of becomes an excuse for beign rejected ''Oh, she wasn't very cool. I don't wanna bang her now'' when deep down, you obviously do! She's hot! That's how attraction works for men
/r/seduction03/04/17 07:57 AM
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What's her age or birth origin matter? Are they going to help you find out what her personality is like? I No, But in order to look socially normal, is it not natural to ask certain questions like that? About 90% of infields seem to include the typical questions in the first few minutes. I think it could make you look odd to NOT ask them sort of questions when you first meet someone? Do you always open with a joke? And after the joke, where do yuo take the conversation? Go straight into asking h…
/r/seduction02/04/17 08:46 PM
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I saw a talk by Mark Manson where he said that "seduction" is teamwork. And something clicked for me. Because I was noticing that even some of the most "passive" women I observed, were actually exerting their own control and influence in social situations. there is no such thing as a girl who gets picked up solely because of what the guy does. The girl is flagging him in the whole way, rejecting other guys who might be checking her with their eye contact, encouraging the process from the beginni…
/r/seduction31/03/17 04:11 PM
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I know where you're coming from, as I see theses kind of discussions on here a fair bit, but I can't shake the fact that I know so many people 'on their lifes purpose' who have amazingly well paid jobs that they enjoy, lots of hobbies and all of that stuff, yet who are practically virgins. They simply suck with girls and are basically virgins, and I just don't think that acquiring a better lifestyle and making more money etc is gonna help them. I think some people need to concentrate much more o…
/r/seduction30/03/17 07:58 AM
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Yes, get dates and slay Well that ain't gonna happen unless he gets good with girls and DOES spend his time practicing pickup and 'chasing women'
/r/seduction29/03/17 08:59 PM
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did you click the links I posted? I did, mate. Watched 2 of them. Will watch the other two now
/r/seduction23/03/17 08:57 AM
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with the attraction-comfort-seduction model ; I kind of don't get it it? I mean, isn't that just obvious? I'm not sure how having that model in your head helps at all? Obviously a girl needs to be attracted to yuo before you can have sex with her. And obviously some comfort is usually needed. I'm not sure it matters whether the attraction or the comfort come first, though? And attraction and comfort would naturally be 'overlapping' in most interactions anyway, as a result of 'normal' conversatio…
/r/seduction22/03/17 08:44 PM
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hi. I've actually read it.
/r/seduction22/03/17 08:40 PM
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Regarding observation, that's possibly part of it. I mean, when I talk about having something to 'hang on too' I don't necessarily mean some magical line to use after the opener to make her love me (though that would be good) It's more some sort of method to stop me getting in my head, wondering how to begin the actual conversation in a way that won't bore her. Problem for me is that lots of advice seems to be to lower the bar and just talk about whatever. I might ask what she does for a job or …
/r/seduction22/03/17 05:49 PM
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you sound a lot like me when it comes to sitting there, envisioning how on earth the interaction is going to go after you open, and how to make it 'fun' so that she doesn't just leave after a few seconds! I'm always thinking and searching for answers for ''what do I say after the open during night game to get into a fun convesation or to spike a girls emotions?'' I'm usually unable to find anything helpful. Usually it's to 'make assumptions' about her, but i've used that for quite a few approach…
/r/seduction22/03/17 03:19 PM
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hi. Thanks for replying. I guess for me, even though I don't like the idea of strictly following some 'model' like a maths equation, and constantly thinking about 'stages' and the 'appropriate lines for each part of the interaction', I still feel as though I need something too 'hang on too'. Sometimes I open a girl. Maybe make a comment on her clothes or something. And then I talk too her, but she's never 'hooked'. Often feel as though she wants me to leave her alone. On rare occasion, I CAN hoo…
/r/seduction22/03/17 01:43 PM
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is mark manson basically the complete opposite of mystery method?
/r/seduction22/03/17 12:45 PM
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But surely human psychology hasn't changed? Women haven't changed. Lots of people online claim to still be using it to great effect. As I say, I was advised that I need more structure and to study MM after posting some field reports elsewhere. To be honest, I don't FEEL as though it's for me. So much to think about. Having 90% of teh interaction 'prepared' before you've even met her and hoping it all goes to plan and that 'the material works' etc just seems unrealistic to me, but I get no result…
/r/seduction22/03/17 12:44 PM
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This is very interesting as it's something i've been kind of doing for a long time. (at least I think it's the same thing) If I'm online and I see a picture of a girl in a bar, I imagine myself opening her, and playing out the conversation. The problem is, EVEN IN MY HEAD, I can't work out what to say! haha. It's like, my 'mental rehearsals' are no better than my actual approaches! (I imagine opening by making a comment on sometihng, her looking at me in a slightly less than neutral way, and the…
/r/seduction21/03/17 11:16 AM
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