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Low standards or selfish charismatic manipulation approaching sociopathy. Either way it becomes almost a full time job. My friend slepot with 44 women the first 18 months of college and he was putting in well over 50 hours a week counting commute, time on site and time in bed
/r/seduction22/05/26 02:27 AM
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Everyone has known this about women for the entirety of human history and if you believe some feminist bullshit cooked up 70 years ago to increase the labor supply thats on you.
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:31 AM
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Move?
/r/seduction12/05/26 02:02 AM
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Only in person for me
/r/seduction05/03/26 04:12 AM
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You make friends with the staff
/r/seduction18/02/26 12:31 AM
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Most first sex is bad. Most people whove had 3 or more new partners probably expect it a little
/r/seduction17/02/26 10:27 PM
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Im confused, are you guys hanging out with girls and not letting them smoke your weed and drink your booze?
/r/seduction16/01/26 07:15 AM
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You should learn to love to dance because you're a human being and dance is how we decorate space and time at the same time and also celebrate being alive
/r/seduction21/10/25 08:34 PM
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i dont think ive ever brought a girl home without speaking to her, but silent first kisses happen all the time
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:47 PM
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Lot of sad sad guys who havent actually tried this in here
/r/seduction21/10/24 10:33 PM
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The top comment is bullshit an d you should ignore it. I dont have experience but i bet getting bigger and defined muscles would help
/r/seduction04/08/24 11:14 PM
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10,000 Hours to learn an art. It is what it is. Im sure some people can. Michaelangelo made David when he was 26. I have, personally, never heard of a personality change wherein a total shut in in the most social environment on the planet becomes a social butterfly in their late 20s. Look, im 33 now. You could go back 13 years and find my field reports from college on this very subreddit. Its way harder now to get the energy to party, you have less "Bros" to go out with, more of your potential p…
/r/seduction12/06/24 08:34 PM
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Its not going to get better. Your natural motivation to get laid is strongest between 16 and 22. You wasted it, and youre not going to magically have the energy to work your grown up job and go out partying until 3 am 4 times a week like you should have done in college. I would focus on finding one good girl and marrying her. The odds of you ever being a "player" are basically non existent.
/r/seduction11/06/24 08:09 PM
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For gods sake guys, please do not try to live like a monk until you own a house. Your primetime is your early 20s.
/r/seduction01/04/23 10:41 AM
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Bro, fighting to change something in the world is not a good thing. Thats just being alive and affecting reality by your actions. What you do, how you do it MATTER.
/r/seduction01/04/23 10:39 AM
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This right here is a good example... If I'm single and enjoying it, and don't even really want a girl at all, I'm still gonna be doing 5 or 6 approaches a week, just from seeing girls I would really really like to have.
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:47 AM
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Sir, thus is a wendys
/r/seduction29/10/22 05:16 AM
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I mean if you're determined to defeat yourself in your mind before you arrive to the field how can you expect victory?
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:06 AM
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Abundance mindset is earned. It's not something you start with. It's not "have an abundance mindset then get chicks" it's "I believe that if it doesn't work with this particular woman, there is as a mathematical fact someone better than her out there who will like me if I am willing to find her"
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:23 PM
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Well yeah. But you have to actually cuff them. And as a tactical play I'm never gonna be the one to bring up exclusivity
/r/seduction27/10/22 11:21 PM
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Being too chill and too aloof is a good way for girls you actually really liked to press your boundaries further then the relationship can recover from. If you're gonna be pissed to find out she fucked some dude over the weekend she was on a short trip, while you've been acting like you could take her or leave her, that's gonna be on you.
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:05 PM
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You're intentionally being obtuse in what appears to be some sort of manipulative denial that humans pre judge based on appearance.
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:03 PM
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Any activity is good man. There's not like some hierarchy. It just gives a chance to interact without forcing you to carry a conversation without pauses.
/r/seduction10/10/22 03:21 AM
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You would need a wingman to bring it up and you would need a deck small enough for your jacket pocket but it's as good a plan as any imo. I would recommend progressing to palm reading. Also you are guaranteed to get called out for being a pick up artist at some point or another if you do this, which will usually be a bad thing.
/r/seduction09/10/22 11:59 PM
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Not having sex with a guy until you are in a committed and monogamous relationship with them is absolutely a reasonable expectation to have. But if he is serious and you can tell, you can't make him wait more than 3 dates if he is offering to be your boyfriend.
/r/seduction09/10/22 01:44 PM
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Either ghost her or never mention it. Your only 2 options.
/r/seduction08/10/22 05:07 AM
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Absolutely
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:27 AM
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IDK Bro, In high school a sophomore was dating the most beautiful senior girl. He was im sure coincidentally the quarterback. I mean, it's not like the greatest quarterback of all time married and had a family with the most successful super model of all time, right? Like reality couldn't be that shallow, right? If OP actually ever was the FASTEST AND STRONGEST maybe he would know that you do in fact get attention. As do the RICHEST and HANDSOMEST and everything else. Excellence attracts admirati…
/r/seduction14/09/22 03:28 PM
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Look at me! I'm all about efficiency and the grind. I keep it realistic though. Now that I own my own place I'm gonna quadruple my income in the next 4 years. Look, I've been in college, living in "the party house", the sickest logistics imaginable, and watched my natural roommate put about 24 hours a week into partying, and more into dating/time for trusts, and he got no where close to 56, and it was still one of the most viscerally disgusting things I've ever witnessed getting probably somewhe…
/r/seduction12/09/22 10:47 AM
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Join a fraternity
/r/seduction18/08/22 02:43 PM
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Confidence comes in ebbs and flows. If your process is right generally you'll grow more confident as a result of your self care. But confidence, like happiness, is not something you live constantly.
/r/seduction31/07/22 05:10 PM
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Sometimes it takes time to get comfortable with someone. Generally if that happens to me, I'm just gonna make out with them for like 15 minutes, and then lay on my back in the position I masturbate in, and keep kissing them, put their hand on my dick, and squeeze their tits hard enough to hurt, it makes me feel like they really want it if they're willing to suffer a little for it. A lot of people recommend giv8ng head in these situations, but I disagree. This makes you look supplicative, and put…
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:28 PM
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Idk, when I'm single if I do like 8 approaches a month I'll be with someone who I want to be with in an LTR in 3 or 4 months. But I wouldn't say I "do cold approach" Granted for a time in my life I would do like 30 a week but there are plenty of fairly smooth adult men out there who can do "cold approach pick up" that to the target seems natural and random.
/r/seduction23/07/22 02:05 AM
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He spoke the truth and they hated him for it. Granted, many women are happy to accept meals, rides, and financial help from men who want them both physically and emotionally with no intention of ever reciprocating those feelings. And I've been asked out by maybe 10 women and all were significantly less attractive then the least attractive woman I have ever seduced, so it's not just guys shooting out if their league. But yeah, too many men out here poisoning the well, getting shit advice like "sh…
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:46 AM
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It's not your job man. There are no metrics. If you're actually upset then you'll step up, and lower your standards, if you're misrepresenting your value in the marketplace. If you're smoking weed or drinking alone, and or watching porn then cut that shit out. You're killing your motivation.
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:09 AM
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No.
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:07 AM
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Drug dealers
/r/seduction20/07/22 09:46 PM
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I've been sober 3 years. It usually comes up after I order a Shirley temple. If they ask about it I usually just say I'm not trying to make the same mistakes twice.
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:33 PM
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Either get one that's genuinely expensive or one with a good story. I wear one I bought off an elderly Asian man who approached me in a McDonald's in the hood with a cheap plastic Buddha pendant.
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:26 PM
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Do whatever you want?
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:14 PM
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Then you're cutting your eligible pool down to a miniscule tiny population. Your best bet is gonna be to get into a super conservative religion and make friends.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:09 PM
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If you find someone selling Molly buy a bunch. Take some. Go talk to girls. If one likes you and starts spending time offer her some.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:04 PM
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"It's OK. You can still call me daddy"
/r/seduction04/07/22 01:40 PM
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It's not a fucking job. If you don't want to do it don't do it.
/r/seduction04/07/22 01:13 PM
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If you got it and your other choice is being alone yeah I'd probably do it
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:24 PM
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I generally agree with that line of thinking but I don't think anyone could criticize going places filled with people whose qualities you desire and talking to them.
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:41 PM
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I'm just happy I get to be me
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:40 AM
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Bro, I'm not trying to invalidate your identity, but an asexual really has nothing to do with seduction in the traditional use of the word or as it's used in this forum.
/r/seduction16/06/22 12:24 AM
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Pickup is just for men, and specifically it is for hetrosexual men. Women and gay men have entirely separate methodologies. Math is math but Stat and Calc are not the same thing. Toxic masculinity as a concept is a fucking lie that has destroyed the mental health of almost the entire western culture. Men do not I'm fact have to be masculine and virile to have success in game, and many men have succeeded following other archetypes. Game does know gender. Anyone who has any experience in the game …
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:51 AM
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I've used the pull out method for 15 years with a couple dozen women, some of them quite promiscuous, and have had 1 abortion and no stds. The abortion was with my girlfriend who had an iud that had expired without her knowledge and I was not pulling out. Just a data point
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:58 PM
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Live and learn man. It's easy to hide in feelings like shame and guilt and feel like since you emotionally tortured yourself you really tried to change. Instead, just remember that everyone makes mistakes, but if you want to be a good man, the hardest part is you actually have to do good things. So get over your emotions and start doing good things
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:58 PM
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I mean in terms of seduction I'm not convinced that your wardrobe is a handicap. Just as a person I think that's lame. It's a subjective opinion about taste. No need to give a shit about it.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:44 AM
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Sarcasm right?
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:30 AM
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Go out to a busy bar on Thursday at 8 pm. Talk to 3 or 4 groups of girls throughout the joint and do not stop the conversation until they make it very clear that they want you to get lost. After those 4 groups go to a different bar. Do it again. Repeat until bars close at 2 am. Repeat on Friday and Saturday. Do this for 3 years. That's all you need.
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:12 PM
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People don't like simple but difficult answers. Really this whole sub could be 2 posts. What is the process of seduction? Answer: approach, attract, build comfort, close But what about my poverty, height, skin color, disability, social anxiety etc....? Answer: You need to do more approaches then someone with out that handicap. That's really all the theory you need. That's why I appreciate your contributions so much. Field reports that include actual attempts to close, not "I asked a girl what ti…
/r/seduction19/05/22 11:10 AM
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Can't believe you don't get more respect around here. Read this man's post history if you are dissatisfied with your sex life. Then nut up and start the work. I did nightlife with the goal of getting laid for about 20 to 30 hours a week for about 5 years with good success and a solid resume/checked off bucket list. There is no substitute for being out, being social and actually trying to close.
/r/seduction19/05/22 04:36 AM
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Idk what the optimal strategy from a game perspective is... but I'd probably offer to just from a fairness standpoint.
/r/seduction18/05/22 11:58 PM
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By the time she is your GF it's too late. Polyamory, either in terms of group sex or just having an open relationship is something that's handled before the "what are we" talk. And if you do decide you want an open relationship....I hope your ego can handle the fact that it is gonna be a lot easier for her to get some then you.
/r/seduction18/05/22 11:56 PM
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Owning a nightlife venue has to be the best (ethical) method for an adult man I would say. Short of some form of celebrity.
/r/seduction08/05/22 01:58 AM
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Blazer with jeans is played out and basic as fuck. Don't do that
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:54 PM
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I can't make you listen to me. You are entitled to speak freely and share your thoughts on this platform. But, with all the earnestness I have, I am begging you, to at least consider the possibility that you are not a smart person, and try to live an a way where your lack of naturally given intelligence does not cause you too much harm.
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:32 AM
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Idk man, maybe you could teach a bird who wants to fly but is too cool to flap his wings how to soar. I know I cant.
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:26 AM
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It might be like that. If you're raw dogging a girl you just met in a club bathroom you are definitely in a high risk situation. If you don't have Herpes2 yet you will soon.
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:22 AM
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Dude, you are not smart enough to be offeri g advice to other human beings. I know you disagree, I know you think I can't tell this just from one post, I know you will almost certainly not listen to me. You are hopefully smart enough to know that people who are stupid, do not realize/know they are stupid. You are one of them. You are not smart. Please, take advice from others, do your best and just accept that you have no business having opinions about things. You're just not smart enough. Accep…
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:15 AM
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Everything has nuance and exceptions, bit yes they do and you should stop.
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:10 AM
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When I got sober I just started ordering Shirley temples which I think can be both cocky and funny, and they always want your cherries
/r/seduction26/04/22 11:52 PM
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Ask her out. "Hey Jane Doe, I have been wanting to do x once the season is over. You should come with me. Are you free monday/tuesday/Wednesday night?:
/r/seduction26/04/22 11:42 PM
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Have you considered not being a self absorbed, stuck-up know it all who is unwilling to change his world view or himself?
/r/seduction26/04/22 11:30 PM
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No I don't think so. There are caveats and exceptions but just the act itself I don't think really has anything to do with your worth as a man or a person.
/r/seduction26/04/22 10:01 AM
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If that's how you take photos you have so much more to work on in terms of effective communication that you should worry about that now.
/r/seduction24/04/22 10:25 PM
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Great report. Is always tough when you miss a clear chance. Glad you learned. I appreciate the way you write as if approaching and having good logistics is a given. Figure out what your roommate is cool with. Appreciate hearing about your journey.
/r/seduction26/03/22 07:22 PM
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I mean statistically most people die married
/r/seduction26/03/22 05:52 PM
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This os why my number one advice for 18 year old guys going to college is to join a fraternity. Circumstances are king
/r/seduction20/03/22 11:01 PM
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Yeah, I pretty often am doing things I'm not all that enthused about to keep attraction levels high.
/r/seduction06/03/22 05:20 PM
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Generally in seduction the why is overrated compared to the how and the what
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:49 AM
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Text game is a subset of the larger game argument of "is she's down its easy and you can't seduce someone who doesn't find you attractive". I find this argument to be a cop out. An ego protecting thing. Furthermore, I think those arguing about text game are usually getting their initial contact through online dating which, I am no expert on, but imagine you have to do more by text than in person cold approach. My general opinion is that you should match energy, not be a clown, respond to what sh…
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:15 AM
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You're being friendly with a group. Generally in old school pick up one of the only times you ever asked for permission was from a group to isolate the girl.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:07 AM
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You should have gone there, and tried to travel there with her.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:00 AM
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I think you got to wait till the 24th. Go out with other people if you have the candidates
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:49 AM
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Don't see why you wouldn't as long as you're respectful, not sexual, and only send one
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:33 AM
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I think this is great advice. I often make allusions to literature or songs, because usually the funny thing has been said before, and better than you. I think freestyle hip hop is probably the best way to do this. Practice being quick with a quip
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:28 AM
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Thank you for an excellentl post. I wish it had gotten more traction. So many people are so caught up in themselves they forget how many people out there are dieing to feel human connection and valued.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:23 AM
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That's cool. I've been doing it for 17 years and I disagree.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:53 AM
0

Ask yourself - when I'm looking back on this, what actions would make me feel proud of what I did. Then do that
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:54 PM
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If you are actually here to get laid then every minute spent reading pop psychology is a minute wasted that could have been spent practicing. The only reading you need is reading on methodology and routines. If you are here for self help then by all means read this book.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:35 PM
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This is a terrible idea. If you want to reward someone for being good, and punish someone for being bad, knock yourself out but don't make rules or keep score.
/r/seduction21/02/22 09:54 PM
1

This is a logical fallacy. I never said you have to have money to get laid. But anyone with eyes can see the easiest way to be hideous and still get laid is money.
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:36 PM
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I'm attractive physically also poor
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:33 PM
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What does that even mean?
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:33 PM
2

You are over investing too fast.
/r/seduction13/02/22 02:13 AM
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Straight dude. 30s. Been successful in the game. It's money and it's not even close.
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:27 AM
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More muscles, more tattoos, more obvious signs of wealth in your pictures. Also some niche would be helpful, i.e. you djing a large party, playing an instrument in a concert, playing a competitive team sport in front of a large crowd. What you write in your bio will have basically no effect.
/r/seduction12/02/22 08:57 PM
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If your other option is sitting home alone then of course you should go out.
/r/seduction12/02/22 07:42 PM
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Do whatever you want.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:36 PM
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I agree. If you're not a borderline or full blown addict/alcoholic night game is really just frustrating more than fun.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:10 PM
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Some of yall be going out of your way to not get laid.
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:18 AM
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Just go, touch her until she either tells you to stop or you cum. Thinking is the enemy.
/r/seduction10/02/22 09:08 PM
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I mean once your massaging her butt I fail to see why it would be difficult to rub her pussy
/r/seduction08/02/22 04:14 PM
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Doesn't sound like a big deal to me. Being constantly late for shit is a pretty common trait amongst women.
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:59 PM
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It's not your job. If it's not what you wanted just stop. I prefer to have monogamous relationships where "I love you" is said and meant. I don't find casual sex worth the time investment anymore. I have dry spells because of this but the highs are way higher.
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:39 AM
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Lemonaidhealth.com Quick questionnaire, quick virtual doctors visit. My dosage is supposed to be 3 pills one hour before. It's generic. I'll take all 3 if I want to go 3 or 4 rounds or have been jerking off already that day. 1 or 2 just makes for a better election. I can still have fine sex without it if I'm comfortable and haven't butted yet that day.
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:00 AM
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It wasn't worth it to me to stop jerking off and watching pork so I got a viagra script.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:49 AM
3

My black friend went to Japan for a couple years with the airforce and cleaned up.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:47 AM
1

Sounds like a good plan to me.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:46 AM
1

It's not a set if you don't try to close. There is no need to write a field report about talking to someone who just happens to be a woman.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:41 AM
1

In this situation I am going to ask if she wants to sit together before the public transit gets there. Generally with no slick lines or any kind of game. There are points in game where you just have to play your cards and thus is one of them imo. As a keyboard jockey I could come up with good lines to say, but I really think straight up "can we sit together when the bus gets here?" Is your best option.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:40 AM
1

When your done fucking, take a shower together and pee on her. Once you pee on her she's yours.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:24 AM
5

Don't feed the trolls. Just take your time and make sure you get what you want out of it.
/r/seduction05/02/22 06:03 PM
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A woman going on a first date from a dating app is going on first dates with more than just you. Nobody wants to tell someone they're good but not good enough.
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:59 PM
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I'm generally going to pick up the check for whatever it is without even mentioning it or acting like it's a big deal. If she says she wants to cover her half, or all of it I let her.
/r/seduction04/02/22 10:52 PM
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You have time. It's just how you spend it. If you make 5 good quality approaches every day for 6 months I assure you things will be very very different. That's 2 while you're out and about and 3 at night.
/r/seduction02/02/22 01:09 AM
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Did you really cum inside a woman you just met that night? Does this not concern you?
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:18 AM
1

Generally find validation and winning to be good additions to my life
/r/seduction26/01/22 12:31 AM
1

I mean I'm ok with anything that assumes that men get to make all the decisions in a relationship. Can't see why a woman would be OK with it though.
/r/seduction24/01/22 05:53 PM
2

That's interesting and somewhat self serving for the men on this subreddit to say that. Generally in my experience monogamy is something women insist on more than men.
/r/seduction24/01/22 05:09 PM
1

So your plan is to stop sleeping with him? How does that make any sense?
/r/seduction24/01/22 03:57 PM
1

Say that you are going to do something fun at a specific date and time and ask her if she wants to come. Bonus points if you call instead of text, and give a reason why you need an answer soon. I.e. "I can only bring one person"
/r/seduction24/01/22 02:49 PM
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A man is never going to instigate the "are we a couple" and "do you want to be exclusive" conversation. It makes a man look weak, and because men are in fact weak, it threatens our ego to hear "no I just want to fuck you sometimes" If you want him to be your boyfriend just ask him. In general I am opposed to ending relationships because you like them too much. That's like ending a business because you're making too much money.
/r/seduction24/01/22 02:10 PM
2

Find a billiards bar.
/r/seduction23/01/22 12:43 AM
1

That's really not true at all
/r/seduction18/01/22 11:54 PM
9

Bro, any woman can hit the gym, stop eating, get a job with dental coverage, get her hair done well, and learn to do makeup properly. It's way way easier for a woman to be attractive than a man.
/r/seduction18/01/22 06:35 PM
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I'm gonna say no on the stripper pole bro. A large aquarium would be cool.
/r/seduction18/01/22 05:50 PM
0

I mean it's your choice. I certainly have never bothered to specialize in gaming hb10s and have for many years now believed in a binary scale of hotness which is "gives me a bone or doesnt." I certainly don't think there's any real self actualization in "bagging dime pieces" or upping my "laycount." At the same time, because I'm process oriented, if I have a chance for a solid approach I'm going to take it, and if she's a 10/10 I'm not going to not take the shot, assuming I have the logistics in…
/r/seduction16/01/22 04:42 AM
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Eh...does it really matter? Is it really relevant to anything? Are generalizations about people based on their appearances often true? Yeah. Is it any sort of reasonable basis on which to plan your treatment of them? No, not really. Some pickup advice argues that particularly attractive women need to be approached with an extra level of aloofness or even cruelty in order to avoid being lumped in with all those who pedestal her. I would not say I have particular expertise in seducing 10s, but I d…
/r/seduction16/01/22 04:08 AM
9

Hahahahahahahahahaha .oh my God I'm in tears..... Bro, stop LARPing in a sub about real life
/r/seduction16/01/22 02:13 AM
2

Just be as selfish as you want to be and only care about making yourself feel good.
/r/seduction16/01/22 02:11 AM
1

The answer is not to give more. It's to give less.
/r/seduction15/01/22 05:50 PM
5

The point about suggesting to the girl you're with what to do, and then having her tell others she/they are doing it is definitely a great and under talked about move.
/r/seduction15/01/22 04:51 AM
1

Well then obviously you should move to a city
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:35 AM
1

I met my winter squeeze on a subway platform. The truth is that winter game is a lot harder. Cuffing season is real. Next year I would highly recommend having a steady sexual partner by Thanksgiving at the latest
/r/seduction15/01/22 12:04 AM
1

People don't rent houses with roommates at your school?
/r/seduction14/01/22 03:19 AM
5

Inside the house party you're throwing.
/r/seduction14/01/22 12:45 AM
2

Meeting strangers can generally be boiled down to a couple simple steps; Observational statement/question I.e. "it sure has been hot lately" This gives you a chance for common ground and agreement. The more controversial the observation is the more trust is generated if the observation is agreed with. A humorous observation can create admiration in the hearer. An optimal observational opener is both humorous and seemingly controversial. The other person will make it clear whether they want you t…
/r/seduction13/01/22 06:36 AM
1

Nothing wrong with DHV routines. Cheesy pick up lines have their place too, but not as openers.
/r/seduction12/01/22 05:59 PM
3

I would agree that threesomes are generally a function of a woman you are currently seeing inviting another woman in.
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:19 AM
5

If you're genuinely trying to be friendly, get to know people and make their loves more fun and interesting, and you're doing your best at it, why would you care what other people think about you? Everyone who's very successful with women has lots and lots of haters in whatever circles they move in
/r/seduction12/01/22 01:36 AM
1

I'm living in the same world you do I hope. A world where I'm not enslaved. A world where I'm not conscripted into military service. A world where women are sexually liberated and I can call them on a telephone and talk to them in public. A world where a days worth of calories with all the macro nutrients and vitamins I need can be easily procured for the cost less than an hour of my labor. A world where I'm warm in the winter because I live in a heated building. I'm living in my ancestors wilde…
/r/seduction09/01/22 02:15 AM
2

You're severely depressed and should see a therapist before you become a danger to yourself. You live in the wealthiest, safest and most comfortable time in human history. You believing like you do is completely unreasonable.
/r/seduction08/01/22 11:02 PM
1

Go to the same couple bars for a short period of time. Go on the some days, at the same time and have 2 drinks. Order something easy. A beer or a one drink one mixer like a gin and tonic.Tip well. If the joint is not too busy genuinely ask the service staff how they're doing. Eventually make friends with some of the regulars. Go places that have darts, or pool, or shuffleboard. Go later in the night. Don't go to clubs solo unless you're selling drugs. Start selling drugs. Don't dress like you're…
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:30 AM
1

I mean I wouldn't recommend this plan I. Bangkok
/r/seduction06/01/22 05:44 AM
1

Fell for her in 8th grade. Orbited for 5 years. Went to college. Started partying and seduction. Met up over winter break. Apparently now I'm confident. Date till the summer. She leaves me for a pro hockey player. Nothing to interesting to it.
/r/seduction06/01/22 05:43 AM
1

I've done it but it took 5 years
/r/seduction05/01/22 02:18 AM
18

Find a cocaine connect and start selling in night clubs
/r/seduction05/01/22 02:17 AM
1

It's very possible not to impregnate people
/r/seduction04/01/22 02:40 AM
10

I don't think there's any problem with what you're describing. I would even say it's normal. Generally people date trying to find someone compatible and often have sex with people who don't end up being long term compatible. I think you're over thinking this. Just do whatever you want.
/r/seduction04/01/22 02:39 AM
2

You don't want a BS answer but it's not something that can be answered like that. I could fire off 10000 dms to Instagram models and get 0 results. If you're making quality approaches, you're actually attempting to close and you have good logistics then I would say 20 rejections in a row is a problem. But again your standards might be too high. But your standards for how low you're willing to stoop might also be too high. Are you willing to identify a woman's vulnerabilities and use them against…
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:21 AM
-15

Stop being a pussy. The worst that happens is she breaks your heart.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:57 AM
1

You're only several months sober. You have way better things to worry about right now. Fellowship with some other sober people tomorrow and focus on what's important. It gets better. I celebrate 2 years sober in 2 weeks and I'm in a hotel room with 2 girls right now. Take it easy, take it one day at a time and trust the process.
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:41 AM
-1

If you actually wanted to do it you wouldn't feel this anxiety. Contrary to modern hubris you can't control your feelings with your mind. The game is about feelings. And if you're a pussy then you're a pussy.
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:47 PM
3

Don't overthink it in the moment. Just soberly self reflect afterwards and change what didn't work.
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:20 PM
2

This is super true. Trying to lead is a waste of time. Leading is just something you do to keep the fun going.
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:16 PM
1

People advocate for "freeze outs" which I personally have not found effective. Generally I find it just creates hard feelings. I would guess either you're rushing things or you're not technically proficient. If the former, actively try to avoid being in a sex situation until you've verbalized your intentions. You can either do this in a cocky confident way "I'm gonna fuck you" or a teasing "I hope you don't think I'm gonna put out kind of way" If the latter you will need to find someone to teach…
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:12 PM
5

This might be an unpopular opinion but I do believe league's are real. Now granted you don't have to be a millionaire to bag a Hattie, buts disingenuous to suggest that leagues do not exist. The whole concept of self improvement as applied to seduction carries with it the necessary corrolary of the existence of leagues
/r/seduction19/12/21 11:01 PM
8

Don't write anything down. If there are no witnesses it's "he said, she said" and at worst you might get a warning. If she can show your supervisor a handwritten note with your number on it that's enough to get you terminated for cause for harassing the customers.
/r/seduction15/12/21 09:51 PM
0

Boo hoo
/r/seduction06/12/21 02:25 AM
5

Often. I've had like 6 or 7 relationships lasting between 3 months and a year and only one lasting 5.
/r/seduction01/12/21 11:28 PM
3

Well they wouldn't because they are fictitious.
/r/seduction29/11/21 01:49 AM
3

No one really wants a one night stand. Even if you don't want a relationship for whatever reason, usually you would like to have a fwb kind of situation. But a lot of times you only do it the one night because one of the parties did not enjoy it or logistics mean it can only be a 1 time thing, i.e. one of the participants is on vacation, or gets back together with their ex the next day. I can't recommend seeking out one night stands. They're more just things that naturally happen if you're prope…
/r/seduction29/11/21 01:48 AM
3

My opinion on ghosting after positive interactions is that generally there is another guy involved and they are ashamed to admit it, but can't say there's no chemistry. Like, if she got back together with her abusive ex and their toxic dynamic has a hold on her greater than even a very good first couple dates. Or she's been on a couple dates with a guy who has way more money than you and she makes a business decision. I think this makes up most of these kind of surprise ghosting. From a guys poi…
/r/seduction28/10/21 03:35 AM
-5

If you think you can seduce someone by only saying things to them you'd say to your grandma then listen to this guy. Otherwise you can safely ignore all his post.
/r/seduction25/10/21 10:10 PM
2

I've been noticing this too. I haven't decided what to do yet.
/r/seduction24/10/21 04:55 PM
19

You're in the wrong place. If you want to play peeping Tom on guys talking about how to have sex with women then that's fine, but it is generally agreed by any man even remotely successful with women that asking women for advice on the subject is a complete and utter waste of time.
/r/seduction24/10/21 01:52 AM
1

Join a fraternity. Seriously.
/r/seduction12/10/21 06:59 PM
2

Id have finished raw.
/r/seduction06/10/21 12:59 AM
5

There's a difference between street cold approach at an urban music festival and harassing a woman at the grocery store
/r/seduction09/09/21 01:49 AM
2

If she's sleeping with you 2 or 3 times a week she won't be able to maintain a relationship with someone hours away. Just plow through it and pretty soon she'll be telling him its just not working. Also this gives you the chance to keep looking for someone better while still getting to sleep with her. All told, yes it might be emotionally taxing, if you can't handle it you can't handle it and you can end it, but you have nothing to lose by giving it a shot.
/r/seduction06/09/21 09:53 PM
0

I never wear condoms with anyone and 40 or so women later have never had an std or a pregnancy scare. Ymmv
/r/seduction29/08/21 01:57 AM
1

The correct answer is sparkling wine. 2 bottles lamarca prosecco, 2 bottles of semi sweet (demi sec). Ask the clerk in the wine store what they would reccomend. Most places stock martini and Rossi asti spumante. The carbon dioxide in the bubbles hits your blood faster and gets you tipsy sooner. Of course the better suggestion is a good silver tequila. I'm partial to espolon.
/r/seduction10/08/21 02:15 PM
1

Thats a pussy move and girls know it. Also you never can calibrate properly doing it that way.
/r/seduction09/08/21 07:37 PM
1

Learn new things every day lol
/r/seduction05/08/21 01:58 AM
1

This really should not be complicated and has been a pretty standard make out move since prehistory.
/r/seduction04/08/21 06:03 PM
2

Those are three very tough situations. The car one is not going to work. There is no reasonable way to have a conversation with a walking person while you are in a car, and nobody is gonna get in a strangers car. Cashier with a long line.......generally speaking closing women at work requires building rapport over multiple visits. I can't see any way to make this one work. In line is definitely doable, especially if youre in front of or behind them. The thing is that any time the woman is; A) on…
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:56 PM
3

Generally youre gonna want them to give each other head or youre going to have too much on your plate. If they seem to be a little too straight just say you want to see them kissing. After that hopefully they get into it. If they get into it you can ask one to "show me on her how you want me to do it with my mouth". If they dont get into it then youre kind of stuck in a "one girl ridea you while you give head to the other" which is a tough situation. Generally my suggestion is just to focus on t…
/r/seduction30/06/21 12:06 PM
50

Youre obviously new here. R\seduction used to not let women post at all and it was way better in terms of the quality of field reports and advice on technique
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:23 PM
10

An attractive woman never has no options. You just have to be the best option.
/r/seduction25/04/21 06:27 PM
1

Nobody who cheats on their spouse and ruins their marriage starts out by saying "I want to cheat on my spouse and ruin my marriage" The danger here isn't that you want a man to watch your husband fuck you. The danger is that you want a SPECIFIC man to watch you fuck your husband. One is a fetish. The other involves feelings. So suppose you and your husband start fighting and go through a rough couple months and you already feel emotional and sexual intimacy with this friend? I'm not saying what …
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:17 PM
1

Get coffee. Get dessert. If she does something helpful at work just be like "hey thanks for doing x for me. Can I buy you a y treat from z place thats nearby to say thanks?"
/r/seduction19/04/21 04:11 PM
1

If she wont hang out with you outside of work as friends then you had no chance anyway. If she just wants to be friends you have plausible deniability.
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:24 PM
2

No. But the key to all "dangerous" approaches (ie where failure may actually affect your life) is plausible deniability. In a perfect world you'll have spent so much time with her that she either invites you to kiss her or you'll have plausible deniability when you claim you misunderstood her intentions. To be clear, when I say spend time with her I am saying at least once and preferably more than once when she is off the clock. If she is not willing to go get a coffee with you then she wont let…
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:23 PM
1

The number one place people meet their spouses is at work. Ive slept with 4 coworkers in my life and everytime was worth it.
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:17 PM
10

The worst that could happen is you develop feelings for your guy friend, you pressure and manipulate your husband into letting him have sex with you and your husband at the same time, then you start lieing to your husband and fucking him on the side, then your husband finds out and leaves you and then your guy friend ghosts you. Been there, done that. If you have a fetish for someone watching you, or want to get 2 dicks at once do it with a random on vacation so you'll never see them again, or l…
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:53 PM
1

Seducing co workers is delicate. Basically, you show up to work, look good, be competent and dont be a bitch (no complaining, no crying, no getting frustrated). Then you ask if they want to get a drink together after work (I guess for you guys that would be a snack). For plausible deniability its best if youve asked a couple other coworkers to hang out first. That way its not blatantly obvious you just want her. Once youre hanging out just you and her then its the same as any other set. Just be …
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:45 PM
5

You need to spend as much time as you can with her and then when she feels like youre an important part of her life try to kiss her and when she shuts you down be cool about it.
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:36 PM
1

Why would you expect fellow men to have your back when your in direct competition with them?
/r/seduction18/04/21 12:19 PM
2

You know how you find things in the last place you look? Its because when you find it you stop looking. Golf might not be the best place to find a lover, because I golf too and I know its a sausage fest. Most people find their SOS at work because its a place where you get the chance to really get to know someone without the option of leaving as soon as one little thing goes wrong. IMO the best way to have lots of beautiful women is to become involved with some kind of scene and sleep with the ne…
/r/seduction22/03/21 03:23 AM
0

Thats cool. I'm trying hard to figure out how to be twelve feet tall and breathe underwater. Good luck with your quest.
/r/seduction21/03/21 10:40 PM
6

Get viagra bro. Its super easy
/r/seduction03/03/21 02:00 PM
16

I disagree. Inner game is bullshit. It's like telling a mechanic he needs to start meditating and figure out why he wants to fix the car instead of just fixing the fucking car.
/r/seduction15/02/21 10:23 PM
3

Sounds like you slammed her first by telling her she wasn't worth chasing.
/r/seduction10/02/21 09:07 AM
3

Is there any way this could not get asked every 3 fucking days?
/r/seduction10/02/21 08:10 AM
1

Look up the "over the shoulder" opening.
/r/seduction27/01/21 12:23 PM
1

Im saying that biology (not any evo psych weird shit just basic biology) governs reproduction in animals. Humans are animals. I don't see any reason to bring god into it, but if we must i do believe that human beings are supposed to grow into beings who care about others, not just them selves and the drive to reproduce is a good way to start a journey towards becoming a less self centered and selfish person.
/r/seduction24/01/21 02:40 AM
1

Because humans are animals and no one wants the danger of reproducing with someone who will not have a good chance of continuing a genetic legacy You can as long as who you are is someone worth reproducing with Plenty of men who have nothing have sexual partners Its not a business but it is a partnership Everyone who grows as a person is unrecognizable compared to their high school self Ok
/r/seduction24/01/21 01:36 AM
1

You have no chance and youre just bothering someone and being a stalker. If youre gonna try to get someone by writing them things maybe you could bother to learn their language?
/r/seduction18/01/21 05:29 AM
1

So what youre saying is you want something, by trying to get it you have absolutely nothing to lose, and you need advice about the situation? Dude, you dont need advice about this girl. You need advice about how to live your life. Its the only one youre gonna get. Like honestly gtfo with this shit.
/r/seduction18/01/21 05:25 AM
3

Solid line. Gives options for development. Easy out. Can't see why anyone would hate on it.
/r/seduction17/01/21 11:57 AM
2

You ever known a girl who keeps fucking her ex even though she broke up with him? ​ Its entirely possible to have a girl tell you straight to your face that she never wants to see or speak to you again and then fuck her a month later.
/r/seduction17/01/21 12:35 AM
2

I have two rules for when i feel conflicted; ​ How will you feel about your decision once its all over? If in doubt about doing something social, do something social. ​ I realized in college that even when i didnt really feel like going out, if i did I always had a good time. The other rue is just a good way to not make bad decisions.
/r/seduction16/01/21 07:16 PM
1

Do whatever you want to do
/r/seduction16/01/21 02:26 PM
44

As with most seduction rules, the truth is Just do what you want to do. You want to text her again? Go for it. You don't? Don't.
/r/seduction16/01/21 12:16 AM
1

You sound like a self absorbed narcissist to me. Anyone who thinks that there is nothing wrong with them, or their actions, but isnt satisfied with what they have is lying to themselves somewhere. I would take a hard look in the mirror first. Especially ask yourself if youre arrogant, whether you actually listen to people or just wait your turn to talk, and if youre too judgemental (for example thinking women ghosting you is childish instead of just a part of life). Secondly, are you working out…
/r/seduction14/01/21 05:39 PM
3

Damn. Feel bad for which ever of those girls were trying to get laid and the guy was such a sad mess he couldnt even get it popping. I hope he gets himself figured out.
/r/seduction09/01/21 05:22 AM
3

Most of the women who star fish would do anything you tell them too, but they need the man to take the initiative for various reasons.
/r/seduction02/01/21 05:04 PM
1

The tip is that you're wrong. Practice is better than tips. What part of this do you not understand? There is no script. There are no lines that work in every situation. Every set is different. Every girl is different. Here is a tip for charm and charisma - actually listen to what people are saying. Dont wait for your turn to talk, dont hear what you want to hear, dont insist on hearing what you want to hear. Heres a chance for you to listen. GO FUCKING PRACTICE There is no point in teaching som…
/r/seduction29/12/20 03:59 AM
1

If you'll notice i actually contributed advice. Unlike you. Also fuck my fellow man, if you havent realized that every single guy and half the married ones are all competing over the same small percentage of low body fat women in their 20s then you havent been honest about what the game actually is. Yeah, there are millions of women in that demographic but the demand far outstrips the supply. Just cause they made a million ps5s doesnt mean theyre "abundant"
/r/seduction28/12/20 09:11 PM
1

You are asking about books/knowledge/information. Im telling you to practice talking to strangers. You are welcome to spend your time reading alone, or talking to strangers. Its no skin off my back which you choose.
/r/seduction28/12/20 09:09 PM
1

Sure but you're analysis implies that this girl was the only one he was working on. At any given time some one running game might be doing dating apps, be working on a couple fwbs, be friendzoned by a couple girls and staying in touch until the time is right etc.... Just because he has spent a lot of time measured in days, doesnt mean he has spent a lot of time measured in minutes, if you know what i mean. In my book it makes sense to rebait hooks that have been nibbled on where you know theres …
/r/seduction28/12/20 09:06 PM
2

Practice
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:34 PM
2

No
/r/seduction26/12/20 03:13 PM
2

Idk why you have haters in the comments. Seems like a fairly normal situation, handled through good logistics with a good outcome. Seems like some guys idea of game is direct opener -> easy date -> close and any spanner in the works fucks it up. I know if I ghosted every prospect for "flakiness" id get like 2 chicks a year. I dont think there is anything wrong with lots of work, patience, not burning bridges and solid logistics. I think this is a good report.
/r/seduction26/12/20 12:32 PM
2

Guys get competitive about women. Its just a part of life. Just talk to him about what he does. Its not some terrible thing. Youre not going to find friends who if your both single are gonna give you a free pass at every girl, and if a girl is gonna pick between you of course you want to look better than him and he wants to look better than you. That's game. You can still be friends outside of it.
/r/seduction26/12/20 05:16 AM
-1

Sorry man, id love to help but the 30 second number close is to me a very technical thing and my canned openers and lines I dont want anyone else using. Ive spent years developing and creating them. I will tell you that the "hypothetical" stuff is wack. You should probably start with "how is your day going?" You can't put her right on the spot and force a decision as her first choice in the matter. You have to give her the option to engage first. Once she chooses to engage then you can ask about…
/r/seduction26/12/20 04:07 AM
6

You dont really understand cold approach pick up if you think just because something is obvious, or males no sense its going to creep people out. Most of the time the woman knows what youre doing. Good cold approach gives her the chance to signal "keep going" or "sorry dude its not gonna happen" without having to put her on the spot. Talking to strangers is always going to creep some people out. But women know the score, they know guys will hit on them, they know without it no one gets laid and …
/r/seduction21/12/20 11:49 PM
2

If you try to fuck your models you will never make it as a successful photographer. If you make it as a successful photographer your models will try to fuck you. Which outcome do you prefer?
/r/seduction20/12/20 05:21 PM
7

Smiling genuinely at strangers is a learned skill like many social skills. Like many social skills if done mechanically instead of with feeling it is off putting.
/r/seduction20/12/20 05:13 PM
1

This is exhibit a for why it is hard to build attraction over text. The medium does not have the nuance necessary. I would call her, ask what made her so mad, explain your intentions in you comment, apologize, and ask if you can make it up to her by making her dinner. Then have sex with her.
/r/seduction20/12/20 04:42 PM
34

Thats not a rejection. Rejection is "NO I wont be in your presence right now" what OP is describing is "Not yet."
/r/seduction15/12/20 07:15 AM
1

Just tell her your in a serious and committed relationship and then cheat on her. Best of both worlds. Then when she eventually finds out and is heartbroken and leaves you you wont have to make any hard decisions at all.
/r/seduction14/12/20 05:12 PM
3

This has nothing to do with the topic of this subreddit Lots of things seem contradictory, understanding the contradictions in human relationships is part of what this sub is about. Who cares? Why does it matter? There are plenty of very beautiful women with less attractive men, and not only just because of money or fame.
/r/seduction14/12/20 04:56 PM
4

Generally speaking, when you have nothing to gain, and something to lose by performing an action, do not perform that action. This is like life choices 101.
/r/seduction13/12/20 12:44 AM
8

Do not tell them or talk about it. You are begging for trouble.
/r/seduction12/12/20 07:26 AM
5

*grown up first kisses
/r/seduction05/12/20 05:42 PM
13

It sounds like you're young. That mostly stops soon. Guys do it cuz they want to look like they know what theyre doing and to seem passionate. Grown up kisses dont go past the teeth that often at all.
/r/seduction05/12/20 04:53 AM
1

Look, im not arguing against very aggressive game from an individual results standpoint. I just think there is definitely a tragedy of the commons type situation the more aggressive game gets.
/r/seduction21/11/20 03:20 AM
3

"Plowing game" like a lot of more aggressive techniques has the downside of what i call "poisoning the well." Sure, it might make results a little better for one person, but extrapolated over a whole city, 100 PUAs doing ten approaches a day and really forcing the issue, will lead to giant bitch shields and in the end make it much much harder for all guys, but especially less conventionally attractive ones. Seems like a fine compliance test for night game, but id probably say if your grabbing pe…
/r/seduction20/11/20 03:48 PM
1

That shit was great.
/r/seduction19/11/20 03:11 AM
3

Stop masturbating so much Talk to your doctor Only then worry about keeping this girl. Its gonna be her decision. Not yours. If she says its a deal breaker it is.
/r/seduction18/11/20 05:40 PM
2

Theres no easy answer. If you e been reading this sub you already know all the advice. You have to actually do it. Some people do. Some people dont. You'll be one of the 2. Whatever we write here wont matter.
/r/seduction08/11/20 08:53 AM
1

It never goes away
/r/seduction27/10/20 06:25 AM
1

There is no seduction community. There is just knowledge available to those who will look for it. Did the world wide web and all the financial literacy information you could ever want to know help more people not live paycheck to paycheck and instead invest in assets? Yeah some. But not most because that is "too hard."
/r/seduction27/10/20 06:19 AM
0

Dude, i have been there and read all their stuff and it makes total sense and id be totally down for my daughter to follow their advice.
/r/seduction24/10/20 01:00 AM
17

The lack of self awareness is mindblowing
/r/seduction23/10/20 07:30 AM
-5

Is someone on r/seduction really complaining about r/femaledatingstrategy? ​ Dude its two sides of the same coin.
/r/seduction23/10/20 07:30 AM
1

Whats there to think about?
/r/seduction19/10/20 08:00 AM
2

I would be happy to read if you would write more
/r/seduction17/10/20 05:40 AM
1

What do you like to do? There should be groups of people out there doing them as a community that will welcome you if you show up and contribute. Maybe hard right now with covid and stuff, but lots of people have good success with rock climbing groups, running groups, boardgame groups etc...
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:25 PM
1

If you went to community college with more than 100 female students and none of them met your standards then you dont have shit luck you have unrealistic standards
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:19 PM
1

I mean they could, but i dont really see what else you could do.
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:16 PM
12

You're doing something very offputting that you are not aware of. I would get a few of your many friends alone, get drunk, and ask them whats up. Or hire a pickup coach. Something is going on if you have friends, are social, ask girls out a good amount and no one has ever made it clear they want you. Also read old school pick up and use routines, canned openers and other peoples words. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to just be yourself. If youve been through 3.5 years of college with frie…
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:57 AM
3

I dont think it really matters. Just keep approaching. You'll be what you are. You are what your record says you are.
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:03 AM
1

Stop having an introverted lifestyle?
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:20 AM
0

I am someone who can say what is and isnt a good post because im not a bitch and i dont make excuses about it.
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:19 AM
1

No, 8 years ago this sub was full of legitimate field reports and actual discussion about actual methodology. I dont know about other self improvement subs. But even the stop smoking sub is mostly filled with posts about people who actually...you know...stopped smoking.
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:19 AM
1

So did you finish the book? Any analysis, take away or contributions?
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:16 AM
0

Whats up with this sub lately and guys with no game or experience telling other guys what to do?
/r/seduction11/10/20 06:26 AM
1

Dont feel like a loser. Your body wasn't attracted to her. It happens and sometimes you wont know until the very moment. Beleive me, if you were very attracted to her you would have made it happen. Your body is designed to make it happen. Just because youre a guy and had the chance to have sex doesnt mean you have to take it. Trying to force yourself to engage in intimacy does neither you nor her any favors. When you have the right mix of pheromones it happens. Sometimes ive tried to force it be…
/r/seduction11/10/20 06:18 AM
2

As far as I am aware the only PUA guys saying you can be an overweight slob with no style are the ones actively involved in selling a product.
/r/seduction11/10/20 05:28 AM
2

I would advise going out to daygame specifically. Instead have stuff to do during the day and game while you do interesting things.
/r/seduction11/10/20 05:21 AM
6

Can someone explain to me why people like to start topics about what they're about to do? Like if you havent done something then nothings happened. This is like being a man or really even being an adult 101.
/r/seduction11/10/20 05:10 AM
3

I wear a suit a lot. I think on the whole its harmful. The vast majority of men I see with smoking hot women are wearing a t shirt and chino shorts in the summer. I think wearing very fancy clothing is a DLV unless you actually have the money to do shit like charter jets to the caribean. Muscles and tattoos are generally going to go a lot further than playing dress up. Just my opinion living in a large city and going out and seeing people a bunch
/r/seduction11/10/20 05:08 AM
5

Retail. Sales. Photography (is this even a field anymore?). Personal trainer (already mentioned). Really almost anything client-side should be good. Anything involving an office and seeing the same people every day is gonna be bad.
/r/seduction11/10/20 05:04 AM
1

All the time. Once you've been ghosted after the second date or right after sex often enough...well those ones still hurt. In fact they hurt so much worse that you dont really care abut initial approach rejection. Ive definitely been rejected over 1000 times, maybe way more than that.
/r/seduction10/10/20 05:32 PM
1

I'm not a hater like some on here so you do you. Where i am people walking outside on 12 foot sidewalks by themselves wear masks and i have shaked like two peoples hands since march. How do you tease about taking covid too seriously? I feel that like politics and religion its a dangerous thing to tease bout. Any tips on calibrating it?
/r/seduction10/10/20 03:46 AM
5

I like the reservations required play. If your out there kissing peoples cheeks youre; A) doing something very nonstandard in American social interaction And B) out of your goddamn mind
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:36 PM
1

Sounds about right. I guess wait until she asks you to hang out or when you havent heard from her in two days ask her on the third, as nonchalantly as possible
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:27 PM
2

I think you've got it pretty figured out. Good job man. Dont be afraid to take advantage of this time while your new in town to ask if people want to be friends
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:24 PM
2

I'm confused about the timeline here. She might have had a whole week to plan it but how is she supposed to know what time to keep free if you havent asked until the day before? I would just call her and ask if you can take her to dinner Monday night. If she says no for any reason ask what night next week she can. If she doesn't commit to one tell her to get in touch if she wants to hang out.
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:23 PM
3

It is if; a) Your standards are higher than the value you deliver b) You're never meeting women likely to behave recklessly, ie drunk, on vacation, on the rebound etc... c) you're leading with romantic intentions instead of trying to get to know someone first d) youve picked a niche type of girl you dont work with (ie you like preppy blondes, but you dont have any money) What i'm telling you, and what you need to hear is that if you're single 50 attempts is maybe about 2 months worth of work in …
/r/seduction09/10/20 09:29 PM
6

Seems pretty common strategy for girls. Ive definitely felt like I was vibing way better with girls who wouldnt let me hit till several dates in. Funnily enough I always end up in an ltr with them. Girls do this because it works. Dont be mad about it.
/r/seduction09/10/20 09:02 PM
2

Early you said youve met 50 women. Thats why he assumes you dont try.
/r/seduction09/10/20 08:52 PM
1

Way way way too small. Like by two orders of magnitude to small.
/r/seduction09/10/20 08:51 PM
1

Shit man if you can kick heroin you can definitely find a dime piece with herpes to raw dog.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:51 PM
2

Idk, you'll find a woman you want to lock down who will either already have it or let you give it to her sooner or later. Could be worse, plenty of people our age are missing limbs or have down syndrome or are hopelessly addicted to heroin. Keep your chin up, you can handle this.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:45 PM
2

Idk man. I'm just trying to be friendly and helpful and make other peoples lives better. Not really trying to practice or anything. I mean i guess talking to several hundred people every day should help with talking to folks.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:43 PM
1

Dude, you sound like a terrible person. The reason seduction is hard is so that people like you dont pass their genes on. Stop being so self absorbed. Stop being racist. Stop beleiving media is reality. Start trying to help out people who havent been given as much as you. Start trying to learn to think in an emotionally healthy way. Start trying to make the world around you a better place. You are nothing close to a "nice guy." Youre a racist shut in who contributes nothing to anybody. Dont like…
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:37 PM
2

Are you in high school?
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:22 PM
2

You need to make friends to go to parties. Why did you not join a fraternity? To make friends you have to show up to the same places at the same time. Some sort of class or activity. If you spend most every day looking at a screen then you will not have friends.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:21 PM
2

I think youre in a pretty negative head space. I would worry less about your presumably healthy and employed self and try to help some others who are really struggling. You're gonna be fine. Dont beat yourself up, be grateful for what you have, and try to make the world a better place. Also dont threaten to fight your coworkers. Just be a good person. It will pay off.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:19 PM
2

That sucks man. Youre in the condom club now.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:15 PM
5

Id be a lot more worried about a customer complaint than making someone uncomfortable. You'll just have to slowly build relationships with whomever over time. The most aggressive you can really get away with is "am I ever gonna see you again?" Fucking the customers is one of the few perks of retail. Just be careful, keep your plausible deniability, avoid coworker witnesses and dont touch them. Dress well, smile, and genuinely mean it when you ask someone how they're doing. Pretty soon you'll see…
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:12 PM
2

Your results come from much more than words, and what youre wearing matters. Less feel good bullshit in this sub please.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:06 PM
1

This whole sub since its inception has been about cold approach. Why are you even here?
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:04 PM
5

Yeah, you got dumped. Be glad it happened before it involved kids or attorneys. Shit happens to everyone. Just start again from the beginning.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:03 PM
3

Rejection also becomes much scarier in several circumstances; If you become too emotionally invested before facing rejection. If all youre doing is pick up. If I get rejected in the grocery store; who cares? I was there to get groceries, I got groceries. I did my goal. If all I'm do I g is approaching and I get rejected then I failed at my task. If your not getting rejected enough. Just live a good and fulfilling life and dont make apologies for often offering to share it with someone else. Don'…
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:00 PM
6

For most of human history you would talk to her father. When it wasn't like that you still probably stood no chance unless you were of relatively equal standing and were introduced by a mutual friend. Men and women liking each other and making it happen is a very new development. Daytime Cold approach, which I have done a lot of, somewhat succesfully, is not a very good methodology. Its the sort of thing you do when theres no reason not too and you think shes very cute or there is some sort of n…
/r/seduction09/10/20 01:09 PM
6

Ignore the simps in here. Work is the number one place people meet their spouse. It is not hard to avoid a sexual harrasment complaint assuming a slight modicum of tact. To be attractive at work you just have to be the most attractive guy. Its much easier than being the most attractive guy on the dating app, in the crowded bar or in the whole city. Wear nice clothes, be in shape, be kind, don't exhibit feminine traits like whining or needing help all the time, work hard, be good at your job and …
/r/seduction01/10/20 02:57 PM
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Let us know when you smash. Great story. Great play with the pen and hand thing
/r/seduction12/09/20 04:22 PM
0

So your strategy is to post on a dating advice forum?
/r/seduction11/09/20 05:03 PM
2

Start touching her until she tells you to stop
/r/seduction10/09/20 05:25 PM
0

Thank you so much for posting a topic that hasn't been posted before. Really breaking new ground with this one.
/r/seduction17/08/20 10:16 AM
5

If your not putting any effort into it how can you jealous? If you are putting effort into it why arent you putting the right effort in? Also remember a significant percentage of those guys are dating women lower than your standards either in terms of attractiveness or personality. Every beautiful woman you see who makes your mouth go dry has a man in her past and most likely present who is sick of her shit.
/r/seduction15/08/20 07:13 PM
4

She started sleeping with someone else.
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:16 AM
3

The best batters in the world go down looking sometimes. They just dont go down looking twice to the same pitch. And theres always another pitch.
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:08 AM
1

A 7 whos down to have threesomes and will do your laundry and pay her half of the bills is far more desirable than any 10.
/r/seduction08/08/20 12:53 AM
0

I dont think OP wants seduction advice from someone who has never been in a relationship committed enough to have unprotected oral sex. I guess if you both are 14 youre giving good advice though
/r/seduction25/07/20 11:45 PM
0

You have badly misunderstood the point of this sub. Its about having fun and getting in the way of things that stop fun. This sub is about over coming fear, over coming superficiality and creating connections between people. Anyone who beleives this nitcase I want to tell you that THERE IS NO WAY TO CO TROL OTHER PEOPLES BEHAVIOR. Thinking you can do that is setting yourself up for disappointment
/r/seduction25/07/20 08:20 PM
0

Dude nobody wears condoma to get blowjobs. Stop being ridiculous
/r/seduction25/07/20 07:04 PM
0

Don't use condoms. Just pull out. Stds are wildly overinflated as a danger. Its almost impossible to get aids from pic or oral sex and everything else goes away easily. Just call her and invite her to do something. She'll say yes or no. If she says yes, and you feel sexual tension kiss her, isolate, escalate and freeze out last minute resistance.
/r/seduction25/07/20 07:04 PM
1

Just hang out with both of them in intimate settings and escalate sexual tension
/r/seduction03/07/20 10:00 PM
1

No
/r/seduction15/06/20 09:52 AM
3

Not the right subreddit for this.
/r/seduction14/06/20 01:33 AM
2

No
/r/seduction05/05/20 05:53 PM
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I think your crazy. But then again a lot of sexual thimgs are crazy so you do you
/r/seduction05/05/20 03:16 PM
1

Anytime you are uncertain whether or not to make a move make a move.
/r/seduction04/05/20 08:13 PM
3

A house with room mates? A studio apartment?
/r/seduction01/05/20 07:54 PM
7

So assuming that you are close to the same age, live in the same city, and this is a gaming stream not a cam girl I imagine your best bet is to care about the game she is playing, become a moderator in her channel and after a couple years of built up trust see if she wants to meet in person. Also this is a terrible idea and a giant waste of your time.
/r/seduction13/04/20 08:22 PM
1

have no idea why downvoted. succinct and accurate Also even when you are a couple keep social proof via fear of contest
/r/seduction29/11/16 04:10 AM
5

no
/r/seduction12/11/16 06:40 PM
2

thats always been the only lesson
/r/MensRights30/10/16 12:03 AM
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3 year dry spell? Dude life is not fair. Get over yourself. You dont need whys for any of this shit. You just need to do hows.
/r/seduction29/10/16 03:18 AM
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3 year dry spell? Dude life is not fair. Get over yourself. You dont need whys for any of this shit. You just need to do hows.
/r/seduction29/10/16 03:18 AM
2

Sidebar or troll. Your choice
/r/seduction26/10/16 03:17 AM
-1

your standards are too high
/r/seduction09/10/16 02:43 AM
2

alcohol
/r/seduction18/09/16 04:00 AM
5

practice
/r/seduction12/09/16 02:41 PM
4

Thats cool dude. I play football. But i hate practicing. So i dont go to practice just garnes. Don't win a lot though
/r/seduction21/08/16 01:27 PM
2

you need to speak to her privately and ask for her number. Thats all. then call her, date her, fuck her
/r/seduction20/08/16 03:01 PM
6

Situational opener to no strings attached offer to platonic event related to opener. put pen and receipt paper in front of the girl. Look good. If you dont know how learn
/r/seduction07/08/16 12:55 AM
1

Better if she finds her.
/r/seduction19/07/16 11:43 PM
1

Yeah, not here
/r/seduction20/06/16 12:39 PM
11

what at al makes this ubeleivable?
/r/seduction31/05/16 03:03 AM
1

Thats not really what i intend to express. I do believe "hotter" girls are picked up differently. I do believe practice with "Uglier" girls is necessary. But I don't think its ever necessary to not enjoy who you're spending your night with, whether because they don't fit your aesthetic or because they lack the character you desire. But if you're gonna be picky you better take a lot of hard looks at yourself in the looking glass.
/r/seduction24/05/16 01:11 AM
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There is no 1-10 scale. There is a 0 to 1 scale. There is will give me a boner and wont give me a boner. Worry more about screening for things like compatability and maturity.
/r/seduction22/05/16 05:09 PM
2

You're not pushing the approaches. You're also aiming to number close imo instead of aiming for insta-date, which imo is preffered by all parties and more effective. You lack descriptions of kino. While i appreciate the directness of your openers, which will help calm your approach anxiety, it makes kino difficult because they already know the game is afoot. I would move to more situational openers, but ymmv. I don't think your pushing the sets that hard because you are getting blown out so rare…
/r/seduction21/05/16 07:50 PM
4

this shit is why this sub sucks now
/r/seduction29/04/16 12:53 AM
1

People watch together. If you see interesting people go talk to the together
/r/seduction16/02/16 06:25 PM
0

do drugs. hit on chicks.
/r/seduction31/01/16 10:51 PM
1

This particular incident is no big deal. You will find this level of randomness again. However, I would advise you to remember that the market is actually fairly efficient, and if your demand is greater than the equilibrium point of your supply, then you have three options, work harder, work more efficiently, or learn to be satisfied at some point. Also i would also say that screening for appearance is imo very much a shell game. If attractive enough to bone, at that point you will likely find m…
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:20 PM
1

They already are friends by either parties choice.
/r/seduction17/01/16 07:26 PM
1

Lol, you need the sidebar badly. You don't really have the slightest clue what this sub is about yet.
/r/seduction03/12/15 07:05 PM
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Im telling you that.
/r/seduction23/11/15 12:51 AM
0

you aren't good enough at game to use social media yet. approach in person
/r/seduction22/11/15 02:26 AM
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split up
/r/seduction22/11/15 02:17 AM
0

you will never find your soulmate. I bet you have less than 500 hours in field
/r/seduction11/10/15 03:16 PM
1

Hey guys i just started playing baseball, but i can't figure out why its harder to hit a home run then a single? Help please? Its always a numbers game, but tbh i very rarely approach women who look like that because its low odds of success with high odds of drama. Traditionally a canned opener is recommended for very hot girls because of your nerves. Next just keep pushing. If you make her eject the set you have much better odds then if you even entertain the idea of ejection. Social proof. A p…
/r/seduction11/10/15 03:09 PM
14

Honor is something people who have other people to stand up for them talk about.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 02:15 PM
1

ummm..... no.
/r/seduction13/05/15 09:42 PM
1

The emotions of another person are outside of your control. How much you decieve and manipulate is entirely up to your character, but everyone knows that sometimes they don't call you back.
/r/seduction10/05/15 10:11 PM
0

As long as you are still going out and doing the work it doesn't matter how you feel.
/r/seduction07/05/15 06:28 PM
4

2-4 years younger will always be easier because you dont have to compete as much against guys 2-4 years older than you.
/r/seduction07/05/15 02:45 PM
1

weed and liquor
/r/seduction26/09/14 06:19 PM
1

There is no way to be clear about it. Sex is not a fucking joke, or just a fun activity. We have serious shit going on up there, and the truth is if you want casual flings a signifigant portion of those flings will end up wanting more, and there is <b>nothing</b> you can do about it except say sorry and bounce. Even if literally the first words out of your mouth were Im just looking for casual.
/r/seduction15/08/14 06:47 PM
11

cheap feel good trash. Remember, just be yourself!
/r/seduction05/07/14 08:23 PM
3

Tatoos, mohawk, muscles. Also, if they try to leave for whatever reason you need a better reason to get them to stay. But failing that, at least go for the number close before they bounce. Also come up with a really cool story for why you are in a weelchair, preferably one that involves saving the lives of several children. be very "reluctant" to tell this story
/r/seduction24/06/14 10:47 PM
1

There is an ideological difference in pickup vetween people who see it just as a series of techniques for getting laid and people who think it is a "lifestyle" of "imporovement."
/r/seduction23/06/14 11:31 PM
2

Actually imo the concept of pre-selection is about as hard and fast a rule as exists in social interaction. And living in a subjective world does not mean that that relations and individuals are essentially random, it means that things like confirmation bias get in the way of accurate hard and fast rules. I agree that seduction is based on adaptionkl but it is very hard for any body of science to grow if you can not build on your hypotheses, and imo preselection is as valid a concept as exists. …
/r/seduction18/06/14 12:54 PM
2

Yes but aren't we talking about a one person reccomendation here?
/r/seduction18/06/14 11:54 AM
3

Actually that is a much less important question, and analysis of it will take you into murky waters that may or may not invlove feminist/mra thought (aren't men and women the same/not the same) or evolutionary psychology or bs anecdotes (I'm a guy and i notice girls with guys more) or straight up mysogny (because no one cares about girls personalities as long as they're hot) or misandry (i know hes not a rapist if hes with a girl). Fuck all that shit. Just do repeated tests and keep what works. …
/r/seduction18/06/14 11:53 AM
9

I feel like you are wrong, op does not ask "why do girls like you if you are with a hottie" he simply asks why do they like you if you wit another girl
/r/seduction18/06/14 03:53 AM
79

Why are you more interested in a book if someone reccomends it to you?
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:49 PM
0

I don't beleive permanently altering your appearance could ever be considered fake. And i think trying to get laid is just about the purest motivation humans face, with the only possible exception being pure altruism. So yes basically.
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:38 PM
1

that is not even remotely true
/r/seduction16/06/14 08:45 PM
15

The further into a particular niche you fit the more expressive attention you will get. As "normal" person gets small amounts of attention from everyone. A tattooed person might get moderate amounts of attention but from fewer total people. A serial killer will often get ridiculous amounts of attention but only from a very few people. You need to find where in that lineup you fit into.
/r/seduction15/06/14 09:07 PM
5

they are called girlfriends.
/r/seduction13/06/14 09:31 PM
2

but passionately cleaning it will
/r/seduction08/06/14 01:37 AM
3

Thanks for the reply. What techniques do you feel work well in club game? Do you think club game requires more or less effort than social circle game?
/r/seduction06/06/14 09:13 PM
6

How many one night stands have you pulled in "the club" being an average guy?
/r/seduction06/06/14 07:48 PM
26

Good job man, sounds sweet. Street game can be so much fun. Ignore the haters. Seddit has become full of pussies recently. Well done on getting the lay
/r/seduction01/06/14 03:12 PM
227

ITT: sexually frustrated keyboard jockeys acting like they could just go bang a fit 35 in an upscale neighborhood. Right bro.
/r/seduction01/06/14 03:11 PM
10

The best way to get people dancing is to put away the beer pong table.
/r/seduction29/05/14 07:23 PM
1

Noticeably absent from list: Having alot of sex under positives
/r/seduction22/05/14 03:35 AM
1

Love the attitude.
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:03 PM
1

Do whatever the fuck you want. Attempting to fit in to preconceived notions is the best way to be thought of as boring, which is the death knell for a relationship
/r/seduction08/05/14 05:53 PM
5

you could ask her?
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:31 AM
-2

obviously written by girl equls no useful
/r/seduction14/10/13 05:53 AM
-9

No one uses condoms. Who are you kidding?
/r/seduction13/05/13 11:10 PM
1

good advice.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:07 PM
3

Not yet said is social proof. Use of pivots and other women around is key. If you can get friendzoned by a couple 9's and go out with one or two of them your odds increase dramatically.
/r/seduction09/05/13 09:19 AM
1

I'm ussually listening to what she is saying.
/r/seduction24/04/13 09:56 AM
17

use your left hand. way easier
/r/seduction22/04/13 08:42 PM
-2

Pretty sure sarcasm and arrogance should be helping you. Use asshole game. It works.
/r/seduction16/04/13 12:59 PM
8

The number one thing for that time frame? Get more attractive. It's doable. Go to the gym. Have a nice haircut. Smell good. Have clean white teeth. That will do you far more than any quick technique.
/r/seduction11/04/13 10:25 PM
4

no palm reading. Holding hands is easy. Walk somewhere next to each other. Grab her hand. Sorry but it does take balls
/r/seduction09/06/12 01:18 PM
1

assuming you can safely swim it will definitely give you a banging bod
/r/seduction09/06/12 01:17 PM
6

First and foremost; In case you are wondering you are definitely attractive enough to get laid. It took me a long time to realize i wasn't ugly, so i'll tell you straight up you're not ugly. However; As a tall man there are some things you should do; Work your shoulders. If you can broaden your shoulders you won't look so gangly. Many tall guys sort of slump and creep around, because they see how uncomfortable it makes others to be towered over. DO NOT DO THIS! Walk with your chin up, back strai…
/r/seduction09/06/12 01:11 PM
19

In my experience legit "drop to your knees and suck me off" blowjobs are rare. They tend to happen in relationships (be that fwb or ltr). Now oral as foreplay is fairly common, not only for how it feels but the lubrication factor. If you want a good solid bj, then drop two hotness points from what you would date. So lets say i want a cute HB 8 because i think hb 10s are too much work. If i want a good bj i need to grab a 6, and make her think she has a chance if she works hard.
/r/seduction09/06/12 12:48 PM
2

You seem to be in good shape. Continue don't bitch out you'll be good
/r/seduction09/06/12 09:40 AM
0

After a while you can start to pretty much guess how girls will respond to what you say. At that point it is just creating casaul links to sex.
/r/seduction05/06/12 06:52 PM
1

when both people think they might be flirting but arent sure
/r/seduction05/06/12 06:36 AM
1

Situational opener -"What do you think of x that just happened?" "Wasn't thing x that just happened funny?" "You know thing y we both just saw bothers me. what do you think?" Anything that gives you a back and forth of about 4 sentences; e.g. "I never understood why people beg on trains. Do you think they can ride off the train fare on their taxes?" "hahaha, yeah i never thought of it that way." "Yeah, i hate when they get on the train and tell me they're hungry, it's like, bro you just dropped …
/r/seduction05/06/12 06:30 AM
1

I refuse to believe that you have never lied to someone you care about.
/r/seduction11/04/12 11:03 PM
1

Get over it man. It's one of those "serenity to accept the things i can not change" things. You will lie to people you care about. People you care about will lie to you. Part of the human condition
/r/seduction05/04/12 01:35 PM
1

how is that not good? Assuming you can be an adult and accept the possibility that you can't know everything and don't get paranoid levels of jealousy.
/r/seduction04/04/12 08:10 PM
2

And remember the vast majority of the time you get cheated on you never even learn about it so no worries. :)
/r/seduction04/04/12 07:21 PM
3

Strictly speaking no i'm not. There must by definition be a hypothetical "tipping point." For many drunk american college sluts the "tipping point" happens after three martinis and a long discussion about the merits of beauty and the beast vs. the little mermaid. Or you could have a "virtuous" woman who would "never" cheat on her SO but due to evolutionary factors can not take a game assault from george clooney and succumbs. And finally you have a woman who might cheat on you with achilles or gh…
/r/seduction04/04/12 05:17 PM
14

seems pretty accurate. Although as far as cheating women go i think there is a lot of self fulfilling prophecy going on with this in the PUA community. If you're banging lots of chicks you are almost certainly going to do so with girls who are cheating on their boyfriends simply by the rules of averages. Whereas for obvious reasons your never going to have sex with a girl who has a boyfriend and doesn't cheat on him. So you end up in a sort of confirmation bias loop, where it seems like you can …
/r/seduction03/04/12 02:06 PM
10

You game exes the same way you game any other girl.
/r/seduction05/03/12 05:34 PM
2

To all aspiring PUAs: You have more important shit to do than worry about this.
/r/seduction28/02/12 01:53 PM
1

So what? Having female friends is very valuable. If you already have one then your in good shape.
/r/seduction30/01/12 03:03 AM
4

Generally my opinion is that if you are going to put effort into developing a relationship with someone it's not worth it to bail just cause you didn't get what you want. The number one most effective way to date amazing girls is to have a massive social circle, i.e. friends. So you should probably have tried to stay friends with her. Invite her to parties with you, if no one else is doing something see if she wants to go do stuff, invite her to hang out with you and your other friends. Basicall…
/r/seduction28/01/12 09:19 PM
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OH NO??? HOW UNJUST!!! OH MY GOD THATS SO HURTFUL AND RELEVANT !!!!
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:18 PM
5

Johnny is a child. Ok, he's a young child!! There are no lessons tobe learned from him, there is no judgement to be had. He is a little kid, and lets not make the world harsher than it already is for him.
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:07 PM
2

The best way imo to make sure alcohol doesn't become a crutch is to engage in day game. I like drinking. I'm not gonna go out and not drink just so I can "not need a crutch."
/r/seduction09/01/12 02:11 AM
4

If you're going out with 8 pornstars I don't really think you need our advice.
/r/seduction06/01/12 01:31 PM
2

Yep.
/r/seduction05/01/12 11:55 PM
1

Don't spend a hundred bucks. Just take a hundred bucks.
/r/seduction05/01/12 11:55 PM
7

Take a hundred bucks Don't buy the first round for everyone. If they're the type of people who drink in rotating rounds then get the second one. If they don't drink in rotating rounds don't force it on them. Rock jeans, a button down a v neck sweater and a decent dark colored coat. Wear real shoes. Don't pay any particular attention to your target until after the first two drinks. Make sure you've had a decent copnversational exhange with everyone your with before you attempt to start "hitting o…
/r/seduction05/01/12 02:18 PM
1

I completely agree with you Tofu. Knowing what assets you have lined up and in place make keeping in state so much easier. Plusit can be a real pain to get in done lacking what ever logistical aids you had previously. Amatateurs talk tactics, pros talk logistics. True that.
/r/seduction05/01/12 02:06 PM
1

If your texting they can be useful for context and tone.
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:04 PM
2

anything involving alcohol
/r/seduction27/12/11 04:08 PM
5

Rule number one of pickup: Don't listen to what women say they want
/r/seduction22/12/11 01:01 AM
1

Don't. Your intentions matter. Hers don't
/r/seduction19/12/11 01:33 AM
0

In my opinion things like; Dealing with AMOGs, do i do i not buy her shit, picking up on the dancefloor? how?, and other "one specific situation that doesn't come up all the time or matter much but everyone gets worked up about" get too much play on seddit. Things like proper logistics, proper winging/teaching winging, comfort building conversation and sexual technique don't get enough play on seddit. Those last 4 things are each worth 100x any of the former 4.
/r/seduction19/12/11 01:11 AM
2

No its inner game shit. You might want to buy a girl a drink to talk to her. Don't. You might want to buy a girl a drink because she expects it. Don't. You might want to buy a girl a drink because YOU want to for YOU. In which case do it. You just have to understand your thought processes and emotions enough to know when your being "alpha" or "beta" about it. The thing is there are no hard and fast rules to buying girls drinks. In general can i buy you a drink is a bad opener- unlesss a,b,c or d…
/r/seduction19/12/11 12:28 AM
-3

Do what feels right to you.
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:30 AM
1

The knowledge we have here unfortunately does not apply to gay relationships. Dudes are different. Its like going to a chemistry teacher to learn bio because they're both science.
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:34 AM
2

You know man the idea that you would get downvoted in this subreddit depresses the shit out of me. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better example of a good seddit poster.
/r/seduction16/12/11 04:55 AM
8

No they don't. They're actually pretty reasonable. Go to r/shitredditsays if you want to see the real nuts
/r/seduction16/12/11 04:32 AM
1

Well part of the problem is that seddit is getting too mainstream, and people are getting to emotional. For example one of the posters (moriarty) responding to me is "Hey, how dare you accuse him of pandering! He just wants less douchebags." Meanwhile go into srs to the thread that caused him to post this drivel, and the pandering is self evident. But in my day on seddit sixteen year old virgins didn't call out veterans (and my first post on seddit is i think nearly three years old) cuz they wer…
/r/seduction15/12/11 07:07 PM
97

Nope. Just a weirdo
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:18 PM
6

Simple solution. Leave it up to her to initiate the "relationship" discussion. That way you take responsibility for what you want, and respect her enough for her to take responsibility for what she might want. although if youve been banging a chick every other day for two months you should probably assume she thinks its a relationship.
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:14 PM
1

Its pretty obvious an srs voting brigade has run the fuck over this thread too. And yeah, i didn't really want to say it, cuz you never know, but this post is hard core circle jerk.
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:01 PM
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Jim, the truth is that he linked this thread to a subreddit firmly in the Anti-PUA camp. The possibility strongly exists. And i imagine you have experience with real life douchebags, do you think a polite internet reminder is at all an efficient method for changing their behavior? Well the answer is no. So given the two options of a pointless post that won't affect anything (as much as i wish any rapist/potential rapist/abuser reading this will change his ways because of it) or pandering for int…
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:31 AM
2

There is no "seducers code" There is being a decent human being. And sure some girls can tell
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:26 AM
2

As positive reinforcement i think your post was spot on. Additionally, I do see the value in teaching newbs that you don't have to be an asshole, nor is it even that helpful. Plus its obvious by now by the number of upvotes that the community appreciates the content so good job Gamble.
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:23 AM
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What problem? I wasn't aware there was a problem
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:18 AM
2

Whats your favorite disney movie? Good vibes, opens the door to serious discussion, great way to see someones worldview
/r/seduction15/12/11 03:33 AM
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I prefer to subscribe to the "This is empirical knowledge/science and you are welcome to research it" school of thought. Not the "this is gay self help bullshit" school of thought. My morals, ethics and character have nothing to do with the facts of seduction anymore than they have to do with the facts of physics. The golden rule "leave them better than you found them" imo can not be a "rule" of seduction, since there is in fact no evidence for the necessity of its inclusion. Whereas "kino works…
/r/seduction15/12/11 03:24 AM
1

Its the same game, just a bit harder. As far as screening so you specifically find easy girls, i'd have no idea, not something high on my list of desirable traits.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:48 PM
2

The problem i find with "lording" is that its hard to properly qualify and bounce from undesirable people without everyone seeing you look like a tool who's ignoring the poor girl just cause she referenced keeping up with the kardashians (a social crime for which i have no tolerance). as far as doing it at the bar, do it the exact same way. Haters gonna hate.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:13 PM
3

+1 for balls And it really goes to show how important it is to tech your crew proper technique
/r/seduction05/12/11 01:03 AM
2

Yeah man. And i know sometimes it sucks. Nightlife is chock to the brim with sketchy people who want your money. People who hit you up for cash once they've already given you drugs, people who order drinks for themselves on your tab when your not paying attention, gold diggers etc... I understand where your coming from. But like everything in life you need to weigh risk vs. reward. And looking cheap in front of a date sucks. Especially since as a girl shes prolly not gonna buy the "listen you du…
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:13 PM
1

More importantly since when has the pick up community given the slightest shit about what women say they want
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:05 PM
2

Yeah, and if you thought giving the guy 2 bucks counts as "paying him for his time" then your well...nuts. Its a tip man. The same way you tip taxi drivers, barbers, deliverymen, bartenders, coat check ladies and sommeliers you also tip musicians if that is what is being done. In fact as a general social rule I would suggest that if anyone is ever tipping anyone else for a service you also received you should be tipping too. Logically do you have any sort of obligation to this band dude? No. Was…
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:54 PM
1

In my opinion this topic is done to death. So strike one. Strike 2 is that as PUAs it is easy to start hating the "unwashed masses" of nice guys. I don't approve of any sort of negative commentary on how someone else chooses to live their life that doesn't affect me. Strike 3 is that I don't really think this adds alot besides "Dont be a nice guy" which I imagine everyone even close to this subreddit knows. So dv
/r/seduction25/10/11 05:03 PM
2

If you havent been rejected by at least 2000 girls imo your still an AFC, not a rAFC Believe me after a while you wont care. Nut up
/r/seduction25/10/11 04:13 PM
1

I understand your views but saying this is the worst post ever is ridiculous. Well fortunately for you he didn't actually say that. He said its on of the worst ever, which imo is no stretch. Smoking is by far the least attractive thing a person can do. Drinking in moderation is attractive, I am not arguing that. However, women ultimately prefer man that don't drink. Source? Citation? Reasoning? I call bullshit. There is hands down no single better isolation move than "Come with me while I smoke …
/r/seduction25/10/11 03:43 PM
8

If you didn't pay a cover charge then your spending twenty on dollars on drinks that you could get for less than a buck at home, and not giving any cash to live music you couldn't possibly have at home? Methinks your priorities may be wrong.
/r/seduction25/10/11 03:30 PM
1

Yeah, paying is really not a big issue at all. Any girl whose attraction is properly stoked will generally respond with an attempt to keep things equitable.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:54 PM
1

I do it when im genuinely hungry
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:53 PM
5

Get numbers. Don't give.
/r/seduction26/09/11 12:28 AM
0

You don't. If you have to you lie. Also it is never a girls business anything about your previous relationships. Certainly not how many people you've had sex with. Some stuff is private man.
/r/seduction25/09/11 08:50 PM
1

I tend to find myself interested in seduction to gratify my id, not stroke my ego.
/r/seduction24/09/11 08:01 PM
9

Negs function as a "lets bring us back to reality" moment. While interacting in the cause of love, hormones and neurotransmitters become overloaded. This is what happens with "oneitis" and feeling that a certain girl is "perfect" A neg is a break from that fictional frame that your testicles want to put you in and both of you into the real frame. Thus it is any reference to something that makes a girl less than perfect, but ideally not something that she has deep seated insecurities about. This …
/r/seduction20/09/11 09:33 PM
1

Its pretty much exactly the same. They'll often be better read and better conversationalists as well, which helps.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:34 PM
3

duh. ftfy
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:58 PM
10

I don't think it accurate to say that no no PUA material encourages dick behaviour. Good point See Roosh, Roissy, gunwitch etc...
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:54 PM
10

No true scotsman fallacy
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:10 PM
3

If her going out with some other guy over you knowing nothing of their intentions (It is after all possible that it was completely innocent) works your mind up to this state then imo it would be foolish for you to attempt to game this girl. Because though we lack decent info most of the possible situations are less than optimal. Shes just not that into you In this case your best bet is aloofness and abundance mentality. Your upset not because you care so much about the girl (oneitis) but because…
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:08 PM
1

not enough for it to be the dealbreaker" i would bet
/r/seduction28/07/11 03:11 AM
2

keyboard jockeys man. don';t worry
/r/seduction28/07/11 02:54 AM
1

Well look man. If your gonna accept that sort of limitation, something the MAJORITY of people can do with effort then I think you need a perspective change on yourself and what your capable of before you worry about getting your dick wet. Don't limit yourself like that man, and if you are going to then don't regret what you'll miss out on.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:55 PM
0

Well no actually. This isn't one of those situations. This is an i'm right and your wrong situation. You approach a tranny. You have 2 options. You find out she is a dude, then you bounce. You don't and you F-Close. If you F-Close you never find out shes a dude. If you do find out; it happened after you f-closed and there is nothing you can do about it. So no its not to each his own. We would all face exactly the same situation, and assuming we could not tell we would come back to america (or wh…
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:45 PM
3

Am i living in a different world than you? If you can't tell a woman is actually a man then what is she/it? And how would you relate to it? Sure I would not be thrilled to find out I fucked a tranny, but HOW WOULD I EVER FIND OUT IF IT HAPPENED IN FUCKING THAILAND?
/r/seduction15/07/11 04:01 AM
2

Christian? eh.... Muslim? Fuck yes!
/r/seduction15/07/11 02:18 AM
6

in that case does it really matter?
/r/seduction15/07/11 01:56 AM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction15/07/11 01:35 AM
1

Look man, i knind of have a reputation for being an asshole with my posts here; however, If your not willing to go far enough out of your comfort zone to do that then imo you are not ready for seduction. Sorry.
/r/seduction15/07/11 01:31 AM
1

Neither of your comments explain why women would be so hard on other women. They explain why it is bad for women to be sluts and why men don't like it but they do not address why women would be so hard on other women. I mean evolutionarily speaking shouldn't women want other women to be sluts thereby increasing their access to choosy males?
/r/seduction15/07/11 01:29 AM
2

Unnecessary subreddit imo
/r/seduction14/07/11 04:03 AM
1

If your not willing to approach in a bar then i don't buy that you'll do it on the street.
/r/seduction14/07/11 04:01 AM
1

Well why men don't want to marry sluts is different then from why women don't want to be them. As we've seen in this thread the social aspect of this is other women. The evo psych aspect is guys worried about cuckolding
/r/seduction14/07/11 03:46 AM
1

Indeed yokhal is correct. there is no foolproof way to get that "one girl." If there was we wouldn't be socializing, we'd be god.
/r/seduction14/07/11 03:34 AM
1

Exactly this. Remember everyone else is a human being just like you. If a friendly smiling person came up to you and asked how you were doing, especially in a place designed for social interaction, would you ever treat them like shit? No. Would you think they were an asshole? No. People go to bars to socialize. The problem is only about 20% of people actually know how to socialize. Those 20%'s job is to make socializing happen for other people. We just happen to be in that 20%
/r/seduction14/07/11 03:30 AM
2

Its called manipulation not gaming in that context imo And yeah i do it all the time. Especially good for being on dealers/bouncers/bartenders good sides
/r/seduction14/07/11 03:27 AM
2

Well its probably a certain amount of both. Believing everything leads back to evo-psych pretty much makes believing in free will impossible.
/r/seduction14/07/11 03:16 AM
2

I would take anyones advice on the internet with a grain of salt.
/r/seduction14/07/11 02:58 AM
1

Actually in my opinion that is false. Otherwise where is the value in being good looking?
/r/seduction14/07/11 02:58 AM
1

Interesting. I've added you as a friend. Hit me up in august:) You should really work on not being such a condescending douchebag FTFY lol Kumar, I am sure you calibrate well. I certainly did not mean that you were a creeper. My point was the importance of calibration. Many newbie PUAs miss the importance of this, because they get caught up in thinking it is about them alone, when of course seduction is always a 2 player game. Many newbie PUAs are also scared of being creeps. Personally I've lar…
/r/seduction14/07/11 02:55 AM
2

Its not canned. It generally means commenting on something both of you can see, likely have opinions on, and hope to get into a conversation
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:48 AM
0

ur fine. relax. I spent the first 4 months of my current LTR with my profile pic some other chick hanging off of me
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:09 AM
0

You had more than 12 girlfirends in 9 months?
/r/seduction13/07/11 07:12 AM
1

Plus its great for abundance mentality training for inner game. Anyone on seddit that goes to college and has a place that they could possibly throw parties at needs to be doing it IMO. Pulling when your the one responsible for the whole party is the easiest pull in the world
/r/seduction13/07/11 07:11 AM
0

no_dating's post is not bullshit
/r/seduction13/07/11 07:09 AM
3

I'm a year in to my monogamous LTR. I think there is a disconnect between people who think PU is manipulating and those who understand that it is interacting. Obviously you don't want to constantly be manipulating someone. But obviously you don't want to get lazy, fat and complacent and think just cause you've heard "I love you and would do anything for you = your off the hook" means your ok.
/r/seduction13/07/11 07:02 AM
2

Coke bothers me because Its expensive Sometimes it makes me an asshole (and i'm already a pretty big asshole) Having to take breaks every thirty minutes to an hour to do more sucks. No experience with oxy, i tend to hate the way painkillers make me feel. X is hands down my favorite, as i get the confidence of coke, but i find it much easier to connect and calibrate
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:49 AM
2

That actually speaks to one of my preffered day game methods, especially for college students, which i call "shotgun" and basically its, Approach every attractive girl you see all day Situational opener about her quick rapport I'm going to this party you should come Anyone who has ever thrown a party and complained about a sausage fest is not doing it right. If you can get four guys doing thisduring a day on your average college campus you'll be in pretty decent shape for the event.
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:47 AM
0

I mean if its just pics of you with a bunch of chicks thats preselection and thats ok. If it is you kissing a bunch of chicks, well i would question your choice of tagging
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:44 AM
1

Sorry you misunderstood me. By saying i liked sarging drunk, i meant i like night game (though while drunk). I'm not wandering around drunk at noon trying to find girls lol. Although now that i think about it i should ;) I think learning day game should be done sober because it is the kind of skill set you want to have whenever you need it
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:30 AM
1

Exactly. And it's my biggest problem with this subreddit is that there is simply no fucking way to tell who the keyboard jockeys are and who aren't. But everyone i have personally met who practices cold approach pick up (which depressingly i've found is very very few guys) and has done it for awhile would not find it at all unreasonable for that to happen. And yeah, being sober but spitting like your drunk is a rare and beautiful thing. But then again now i like to take MDMA and it happens a lot…
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:28 AM
2

I would be willing to bet kaivon has never done it or if he has hes done it just a few times, gotten screwed on it and its soured him. Or hes doing it for day game or some shit. I agree with your assesment completely and have often hooked up with girls without even talking to them (of course drunk)
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:19 AM
1

Denial of reality however is the greatest sin in pick up, since nothing in this world is more surrounded by bullshit then sex. His point was calibration, not "lol, bro, be hot or teh g1rlz won't love you" Everyone fits somewhere differently on each girls attractive ness meter. Everyone has to calibrate. If you don't know how your not a PUA your a creeper, and its really that simple unfortunately. The good news? Anyone can learn to calibrate.
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:17 AM
1

The thing is imo is that it is always dependent on where you go. I think the thing that helped me learn at minimum "decent" day game (I like being drunk to sarge) was doing whenever i had the chance. Also, dog walking
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:05 AM
0

First r/askseddit is over there ---> When people ask me my number i generally ask them "I don't know, How much do you weigh?" (asshole game) or "If you can give me one good reason why that is any of your business I promise to tell you, but if you can't you have to do x..." I think your allowed to have pictures with an ex man. Everyone has exs
/r/seduction13/07/11 05:51 AM
4

Then she would have started to have contempt for women instead of just anger
/r/seduction02/07/11 04:49 PM
1

ok, anyone who has to tell themselves something so retarded and lame in their head to get in to state is probably a loser and has weak inner game. Satisfied?
/r/seduction24/06/11 09:02 PM
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you're a fucking loser and i bet your lifetime notch count is under 5. DO scientists have "science creeds"? Jesus man its just chicks, not founding a country or religion
/r/seduction24/06/11 08:19 PM
2

Other to me is the trust/commitment that makes having kids with someone not ridiculously risky. And yeah dude are you stoned, wtf is this doing here?
/r/seduction28/05/11 06:59 AM
1

The problem with advice for one-itis is that it is simple. Deal with it. It might take you more time than you would like, it might be harder than you would like, but at the end of the day it is really just a time thing. And as for the whole "Go fuck ten other girls things" I don't buy it, go through your stages of grief and then go fuck ten other girls.
/r/seduction23/05/11 10:11 AM
1

What the fuck have you been doing? I want some
/r/seduction23/05/11 08:14 AM
1

But you have to admit, that seducing with "the game" is behaving more like a robot and less like an animal. Actually I don't have to admit this. Most guys actually find they have to "primitiveize" themselves to run effective game. I like being an animal. Don't women feel (and appreciate) that? In your average pack of primates 80% of the female animals are having sex with 20% of the male animals. If your one of the 20% then yes females will appreciate it. Otherwise you're "creepy"
/r/seduction08/05/11 04:44 PM
1

I actually think a lot of the hate on "seduction theory" especially from other men stems from some fear that by classifying and studying attraction you are in some way "playing god" and fucking with what should be the natural evolutionary choices of women. In my opinion its almost anti-intellectual
/r/seduction08/05/11 04:15 PM
1

I think she would be offended if she read something about me wanting to bang other chicks. I don't think she would be at all surprised that I have a set of weird theories about how to manipulate and seduce women, nor would i think she would be offended. Just because it is labeled and clinical really all we're describing here is how to be a good partner, assuming the objective of a good partner is the other person feeling the chemical cocktail we call "love." Motives vary, sometimes it really is …
/r/seduction08/05/11 04:03 PM
3

Bro shes known me for 10 months. She knows who I am. Like who I really am in a way that maybe at most a few other people will ever get too. Secondly she is aware of the presence of her "bitch shield" although god knows I would never call it that to her and appreciates how I got past it. No one wants to be manipulated or used, but everyone wants to "fall head over heels" and be "swept off their feet". In my opinion its not really the mans job to "pay for dinner" or "open doors." It's his job to p…
/r/seduction08/05/11 03:47 PM
2

As with everything you might want to admit to a girl it is frame control. Either you're a creepy dude who knew the right words or your the cool dude who could have had anyone but picked her. My current girlfriend (exclusive, coming up on a year) knows that a lot of our interaction for the first month or so we knew each other was largely scripted almost exclusively by me. It is funny hearing later what worked. The first time I heard "I thought you were such a douchebag, but then we hung out and y…
/r/seduction08/05/11 03:31 PM
1

Alright, I'll pretend to be an HB7 in a mixed set with an HB6 and random AFC in a typical bar. Open me. I want to see if it is what you say or how you're acting. If you're getting good banter it's prolly not how you look.
/r/seduction22/03/11 06:25 AM
0

Damn man. Sounds rough. You still trying?
/r/seduction22/03/11 06:10 AM
0

Well if i'm saying is and you're saying should aren't you agreeing with my preconceived notions?
/r/seduction21/03/11 12:11 AM
0

shouldn't You and most bleeding heart reality deniers always talk in terms of should. Because i don't put up with bullshit i talk about what IS And the average girl that hits on me is gonna be on average at least 2 points down the scale of what i pull if i instigate it
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:34 PM
1

In the beginning I gamed DRUNK. It made it a lot easier. And I really have no idea where to date my success from.
/r/seduction20/03/11 10:43 PM
1

good point. I should point out though in my original post I was speaking bout LTR's. I'm not gonna pass on a girl whose done it with ten dudes.
/r/seduction20/03/11 10:42 PM
1

Jaded is a loaded word that has little to do with reality.
/r/seduction20/03/11 10:42 PM
-1

I fail to see what number of partners has to do with ability to learn how to not be a lousy lay and not insecure with sexuality. (remember I am talking about LTR's) How confident she is is very low on the list of what i care about. I feel where your coming from though
/r/seduction20/03/11 09:15 AM
0

Yeah man, anyone who isn't getting LMR...ell they probably could have banged her two dates ago her she has serious daddy issues. And yeah it is fun knowing that if you go out deadset on closing you're definitely gonna at least K-Close.
/r/seduction20/03/11 07:47 AM
2

Yeah, but be glad your not 35 writing "Damn I wish I'd have known that when i was 26"
/r/seduction20/03/11 07:28 AM
2

Good Job man. Their is so much BS about PU written that in field experience is vital to finding the right ideas.
/r/seduction20/03/11 06:49 AM
2

Age: 21 Locales: College parties, Day Game, Bars, Clubs, Social circle game What do I say? Thats a bit broad. How about you?
/r/seduction20/03/11 06:43 AM
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Yeah, people who believe in this shit are lacking real world experience. Fucking keyboard jockeys tying to make it about what they want it to be, not what it is. Whatever they can keep practicing getting in state and building inner game. I'll be out spitting.
/r/seduction20/03/11 05:49 AM
1

Cause I do it for potential LTR's. 2 years ago sure I'd have hit it. Now i'm more discriminating
/r/seduction20/03/11 05:08 AM
7

I believe girls hitting on guys is bad strategy for them. Why? The dating market operates under the implicit assumption that a man instigates things. Every woman in that thread who wants to know how to "hit on men" doesn't need to hit on men. They all get hit on. Their market value is based off of this. So you've got girls who already get hit on by male 6's. But they want male 8's. The problem is they are 5's who can't get with 8's. The underlying real assumptions of the dating market (which are…
/r/seduction20/03/11 03:48 AM
0

Um first and foremost what the fuck are you doing here? And since when is being anti-feminist not cool? And being straightforward is wack
/r/seduction20/03/11 03:35 AM
-2

Why don't you go to bars or clubs?
/r/seduction11/03/11 07:13 PM
2

It is something impossible to quantify, and for you impossible to change. i.e. not worth worrying about
/r/seduction11/03/11 07:01 PM
0

You + 5 high value people > 4 AFCs +4 fat chicks + one broke guy +2 creepy "value givers" who actually have no idea how to take control when the frame is dominated by someone seemingly willing to punch your face in for fun. Secondly, girls love degrading things.
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:23 PM
1

This is keyboard jockey shit. If you'd been out you would realize the women are your typical girl, sometimes shy, sometimes loud, nearly always a real girl though.
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:20 PM
0

Bond is never a douchebag. You and mines definition of douchebag differs. Doesn't mean hes not cool. One of the most amusing aspects of asshole game is how those falling for it defend the asshole.
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:19 PM
1

lol. Funnily enough I do too. But you realise your basically advocating an emotional communism in which you are the party and she is the worker? Pretty a hole to me
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:18 PM
3

Jesus christ man.
/r/seduction08/03/11 10:05 PM
3

Ok my 2X posting feminist friend. You'd be surprised actually. I'm in a nine month solely monogamous relationship with lots of value building. My asshole game was what beat out the goldman sachs investment banker though.
/r/seduction08/03/11 09:49 PM
0

Here is your problem regardless of semantics. You take "Even nice confident guys can get laid" to "No need to be a douche" Well there is no need to be confident either. Being a douche can be both fun and effective.
/r/seduction08/03/11 09:47 PM
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Well yeah you are because they know you're being playful. Asshole game is expressing dissaproval strongly.
/r/seduction08/03/11 09:42 PM
5

My asshole game is like this: In a normal situation value is collectively determined by the market of energy or whatever in the room. In this situation you want to be a "value-giver" You're positive, you build people, but your still coming from a frame of rules being made outside of you. Now if all you are is positive then your playing a game with simple rules. Women hate simple games. In asshole game instead of being a value giver, you are the value arbiter. Which means you are the judge, jury …
/r/seduction08/03/11 09:12 PM
0

I actually agree with what you have posted. And amusingly you got an upvote too. However in your post you mostly advocated physical escalation as a means of not getting friendzoned or nice guyed. I believe asshole game used appropriately is very helpful for newbie PUA's, who often are lacking the necessary attitudes and body language to kino well without being "creepy." Additionally I like it for LTR game, as well. Additionally I think it has extra value in already douchey places such as college…
/r/seduction08/03/11 08:49 PM
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haha Challenge accepted! bravo sir. Now, the light on details; narcissism, thrill- seeking and deceitfulness This seems to be the three you picked. Later on in the article it describes it as; self-obsession of narcissism, the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of psychopaths and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism. So really it's not narcisissm, it's self obsession. It's not thrill seeking per se, it impulsive and callous, and it's not deceit i.e. lying, its ma…
/r/seduction08/03/11 04:07 PM
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Ok an entirely reasonable proposition, but prove it. I listed a source and a lot analysis. You've said "Oh they're just jealous" Thats the same sort of bullshit cop out as "game only works on insecure women." I mean sure think what you think but if you want us to care you better explain why.
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:19 PM
1

I choose to believe what is true. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree lol. Except you're not really disagreeing with me. What you are doing is admitting to limiting your seduction for your own reasons. I feel you. I've been in nothing but serious monogamous for the last two years to keep me sane.
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:18 PM
1

your downvotes are testament to the amount of AFCs here
/r/seduction08/03/11 02:01 PM
2

Yeah this smacks of what I'm starting to call AFCPUA propaganda. Anyone who has been in the game long enough will in my opinion develop fairly misanthropic (note not mysoginistic although it is possible) attitudes. It's easy to see why. So much of our view of how people and the world works is based off of a belief in rational thought and virtue that to see the real life evolutionary urges driving people is kind of a "pulling back the wizard of oz's curtain" moment. Realizing the shallowness of t…
/r/seduction08/03/11 01:42 PM
1

I'm not hating on inner game.
/r/seduction06/03/11 11:55 PM
5

Thats my favorite way to get in state actually. Cold Beer in the shower
/r/seduction06/03/11 10:03 PM
3

Ok, game is largely de-pedestaling women. If women are the only motivation that would make you do cool things than they're on way too high of a pedestal to you (IMO) and as such your "inner game" will be just as fake IMO. The proper role of "self help" in the "community" is a subset of a chapter in a huge book. Not a co existing equal
/r/seduction06/03/11 09:52 PM
2

I agree tofu. See my other longer response. Yes they can co-exist. I have no problem with co existence. I do have a problem with "This is the point"
/r/seduction06/03/11 09:43 PM
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I don't think i've argued otherwise. Personally though I think the idea of guys who do things like; Start working out Develop new hobbies In order to get more girls are fucking sad. Just my opinion. Which is why I don't want r/seduction pigeon holed into what I call "The sunny cheery good face of seduction" I like canned material, in the sense that I have a couple of GOOD stories. I like manipulating the women I think are "bad." Some people like Inner Gme and abundance mentality. I want it all t…
/r/seduction06/03/11 09:42 PM
2

Ok, lets think about this for a second. What your describing is a self help movement. I have no desire to be part of a self help movement. I do want to know how to have sex with girls efficiently. r/seduction =!= r/selfhelp Ok, I mean I could run "Entourage game" like TofuTofu. It would work to get me laid. Or I can run asshole game on girls with low self esteem and it would work too. Is one better? Well thats up to your own morals and logistical situation (personally dealing with as many women …
/r/seduction06/03/11 08:28 PM
1

Food for thought definitely. I think age may have something to do with it. I'm pretty young.
/r/seduction23/02/11 08:12 AM
1

Yeah hit me up
/r/seduction23/02/11 07:14 AM
2

Is there a point where you become uninteresting, run out of material? Yeah it happens. You know what you do? Make more up. So my GF (who is interviewing for internships for investment banks) has this on her mind... well I'm going to do my homework, and know what is going on with the FED, quantitative easing, etc... Or i'll teach her how to roll a blunt cause even though she doesn't smoke "My girlfriend damn well better be able to roll a blunt" Honestly man, mine is out of my league too. But you …
/r/seduction23/02/11 06:32 AM
6

This is actually my specialty. I have moved away from PU because I don't really care about the number of notches, ad once you get good enough it's not hard to be serially monogamous and always in a good relationship. I have been fucking my SO for 8 months now and things are going swimmingly. Rape Game - More than anything this is important. Now obviously I don't actually mean rape. I mean commanding dominant sex. If you're not smashing hard and often then you're gonna lose the alpha faster than …
/r/seduction23/02/11 06:07 AM
12

Creepy is someone who women don't find sexually attractive who is still trying to get it. If you blow up a set and stick around you're creepy.
/r/seduction22/02/11 07:55 AM
2

Negs. They work. Also women are people. People don't automatically deserve respect
/r/seduction21/02/11 07:53 AM
1

But the important things is that they are YOUR values. Morals has connotations of SOCIETIES VALUES. You need to be > society
/r/seduction19/02/11 06:58 PM
1

Also morality has nothing to do with being an alpha male. In general any ability to shrug off societal norms (including morality) makes one more alpha
/r/seduction19/02/11 06:43 PM
2

I like how she focuses on what YOU should do, while allowing the targets to be themselves. Also it's important to notice that what you talk about doesn't matter. This chick gets it
/r/seduction19/02/11 01:09 AM
1

Believe me, you don't do asshole game well enough. This whole "women like confident guys, and only douchebags are confident" is female bullshit rationalization. Women like confident guys. Women also like assholes. Period.
/r/seduction18/02/11 08:23 PM
6

The problem with the "nice guys aren't really nice guys, they're weak guys" is how amazingly effective asshole game is
/r/seduction17/02/11 11:54 PM
3

I don't have female friends. The things I have seen in the game have spoiled that for me.
/r/seduction14/02/11 06:06 AM
2

so? if its free then shes not really a hooker
/r/seduction14/02/11 12:06 AM
0

You know how you'll hey a little erection hearing a girl your attracted to talk about sexual stuff? Same thing
/r/seduction14/02/11 12:05 AM
6

Yeah, most people who look at pickup see BS jargon, and circlejerking. What they don't see is being rejected by thousands of girls
/r/seduction09/02/11 09:51 PM
0

haha, go read some of my posts in 2Xchromosomes the feminist/womens subreddit. Mad funny, and i'm not even trolling
/r/seduction09/02/11 09:37 PM
1

lol, I'm 6'1" and notice that too. I'm firmly convinced women see attention the way we see money, and see money the way we see attention
/r/seduction09/02/11 09:09 PM
5

Don't game with him. I don't introduce my best friend to girls I want to bang until I have. Otherwise he'll just have a threesome and leave me out in the cold lol
/r/seduction09/02/11 09:03 PM
1

I really like the shoulder shift when she touched you. Thats a smooth move
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:06 PM
1

Well first I yield to your experience in the muslim country. Its just that I am dating a muslim girl now (In america) and I honestly thought before her that I would never find a girl worth my time. Most of the rest of your post is rationalization. I am not criticizing your method at all, and generally behave very similarly. Especially now that I am in an LTR I NEVER interact with women by choice (besides her obviously). What I am curious about is have you used this method to fuck girls? If so ho…
/r/seduction09/02/11 07:13 PM
2

Heres the problem with your approach and why it has received few responses. I don't doubt that it is effective in terms of attracting female interest. Unfortunately it has no screening process, once you attempt to screen her for the qualities you are looking for you've lost the aloofness because how could you possibly be more aloof than you already have? You've told us that it gets female attention, which is a great place to start, but your post would be far more helpful if you tailored it to in…
/r/seduction09/02/11 06:46 PM
7

Honestly, that show sucked. If my first interaction with PU came that way I'd prolly say the same things.
/r/seduction09/02/11 06:41 PM
3

Dude, the rules are the rules. People who don't use the acronyms and stuff (I'm one of them) are simply attempting to salve their conciousness with bullshit about "being a better man" and "responding to her" and yadda yadda. The rules of pickup are the same for nearly every variation and practice. Use of acronyms makes description easier, but also makes it sound more clinical. Some people get squeamish about this, but it's just their own self rationalization. To me it sounded like you did things…
/r/seduction09/02/11 06:34 PM
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I disagree Afungi. This list blows. Most men are pigs, most women are bitches The thing men care about most is sex Feeling not satisfied with who you are comes from you. Not some pyscho babble about needing others approval. Thats the whole point of this subreddit. If your involuntarily celibate yeah you've got an issue. It is entirely possible that you are not good enough If .1% of guys like fat girls but 15% of girls are fat where does that leave the other 14.9%? Oh yeah, lonely Sex is not wron…
/r/seduction09/02/11 11:21 AM
1

No asshole. Ethics exist independent of seduction. I would be happy to have a conversation about ethics in r/ethics. In r/seduction I would prefer to talk about seduction. IT's not complicated dumbass
/r/seduction09/02/11 03:03 AM
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No asshole. Ethics exist independent of seduction. I would be happy to have a conversation about ethics in r/ethics. In r/seduction I would prefer to talk about seduction. IT's not complicated dumbass
/r/seduction09/02/11 03:02 AM
1

It's just an extended mixed set. Friend with guy, alienate girl, fuck girl, be friends with guy if you want
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:40 PM
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I will respond for him. Where do you get the idea that he will get rejected by everyone for too much confidence? Fuck your ethical considerations. Maybe you don't understand where your posting. It's about seduction. We don't do ethics.
/r/seduction05/02/11 05:19 PM
1

S=Dude get over yourself. We're not here to make better men. We're here to fuck or teach to
/r/seduction02/02/11 08:31 PM
2

Get off the internet. Women flake because the attraction isn't high enough. Hard to build it over the internet
/r/seduction02/02/11 08:28 PM
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DO NOT USE FACEBOOK WITH GIRLS
/r/seduction31/01/11 10:16 PM
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The concept of "orbiters" is the female equivalent of spinning plates. It's pretty easy to find out if a girl has friend zoned one or more dudes. If they've done it, then they're a plate. They're rules. Yes, you can press forward if she is set up to get hurt as long as you don't lie. Otherwise you are caving to her entitlement complex. For example, before I knew my current signifigant other was worth monogamy and she wanted to have the "tlk" I sat her down and said "Look babe I really like you b…
/r/seduction31/01/11 10:16 PM
2

dude, well fitting dark jeans (not black cause even a bit of fadin on black jeans makes them grey), nice dark blazer, well fitting white dress shirts, well fitting black t-s You notice a trend? well fitting and understated. ditch the loud ts
/r/seduction30/01/11 07:43 AM
1

No jargon. Misogynistic generalities will generally get a good response
/r/seduction29/01/11 08:00 PM
0

Game is based around large quantities of girls who don't know you. Such is not the case in high school. If you agressively approached ten girls a day you'd go through your class in what 10 days? (remember your not hitting on cows) If you talk like you write you're already behind. You are very articulate, but you're also way over the head of your average woman. Much less your average high school chick. Using intellctualism as game gets more efficient the older you get. I'm just running game in po…
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:26 AM
1

It's a ridiculous proposition to assume you are always aware of when you are being manipulated.
/r/seduction27/01/11 08:21 PM
1

Yeah, and its cool for them. Because its our logistics for going out, rarely theirs. Hence our frustration
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:46 PM
1

Well ostensibly you wouldn't be aware.
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:45 PM
4

I think this needs to be said. Yes, you can probably get her re-framed and ok with this. But the truth is real quality girls looking for someone exclusive will sooner or later force the issue. Anything you can do is a delaying tactic. So for example, I am exclusive with my GF now, but i managed to delay the talk for more than six months. I was just honest with her "Hey babe, I like you. That decision has more to do with me and what I'm comfortable with. I'm not ready for that. Right now I'll giv…
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:29 PM
10

I think this is false. A good portion of your LTR's love for the relationship should be her feeling desired. This means you eed to instigat sex properly. Sure, keep the foreplay, don't assume makeouts = sex, but at the same time you can't be "desire-less." No woman is gonna want a man who doesn't desire. But there is a difference between being beta and alpha about it. For example I might meet up with her at my house and hook up for a bit then do something. Then when I want it it's straight rape …
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:26 PM
1

Idk, my LTR knows i was gaming her at the start. Now she thinks i've got it and have stopped. lol
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:23 PM
2

oh sweet. Good move. Yeah teaching is always a good frame
/r/seduction25/01/11 05:14 AM
1

Look man, your dumb if you think you're not playing with fire if you have a professional relationship with this person.
/r/seduction25/01/11 04:09 AM
2

Generally I advise against working mix and play. No matter how good you get there is still going to be a couple girls who get creeped out
/r/seduction25/01/11 02:00 AM
1

It has to do with the vibe. There are no hard and fast rules. Basically if it feels like she "deserves" for you to pay it's fucked. Paying is on the whole a DHV. If it is done non chalantly and like it doesn't matter then it won't imo actively hurt you. Generally paying will hurt you only if you expect like you expect something from it. I generally go with however she is flowing without rules. For example if she doesn't even reach for her wallet? Well you know what that doesn't mean she isn't wo…
/r/seduction24/01/11 10:01 PM
1

I like to call. I don't like the thirty minute thing. Thirty minutes of talk with no kino is imo a bad idea. In fact i dislike attempting to build rapport over any sort of technological device. Texts will not make you cool. Ignoring her bullshit and not fucking around will. She knows whats up, and she knows she is still in control, so any cutesy text games... I know many PUA's like them. As far as I'm concerned the opportunity cost is not worth it. Abundance mentality means plan dates, if they f…
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:30 PM
1

Always always play the game. If you stop you slip. Alphaness is maintained, not gained and possessed anymore then muscles are. And honestly dude, just cheat on her. It's not unethical unless she finds out. Also if she is spending a year in southern europe... you're an idiot if you think she stays faithful the whole time
/r/seduction10/11/10 01:47 AM
2

but it's false. They like that shit and assume we do. The same way they think the average guy gives a fuck about the masters in poli sci just cause they do
/r/seduction08/11/10 01:52 AM
1

I like letting them stay all day to practice fucking
/r/seduction17/10/10 05:00 PM
1

I agree with the posted solutions. However remember that if you have a day to chill and she wants to too it's a good chance to practice techniques you'll need, especially if you drink.
/r/seduction17/10/10 04:13 AM
0

needs to be buried in an oblivion of downvotes.
/r/seduction16/10/10 05:36 PM
1

were they really banging 3's?
/r/seduction15/10/10 06:24 PM
10

If you've hung out four times, have not hooked up with her and when you clearly invite her and she makes a specific request for friends then you have been friend zoned
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:43 AM
2

remember its outdatted
/r/seduction05/10/10 12:59 AM
3

New level definitely. One night stands blow. Never being able to be emotionally vulnerable blows. Look man, you got the nut, you did it in what sounds like a sweet comfort zone (which is where really good sex comes from). Your ahead of most people on here.
/r/seduction05/10/10 12:55 AM
5

needs more upvotes. Ignore it. If they think I'm a player its "Well, theres nothing i can do to prove it one way or another so i guess you're just gonna have to live with that fear"
/r/seduction05/10/10 12:53 AM
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Sorry man. I already think there's too much emphasis on the amoging topic here. It shouldn't really be happening all that often.
/r/seduction17/09/10 06:39 AM
1

It really shouldn't matter. think about it, some hot chick with a dude. You still get attracted but don't make a move. Well it doesnt matter in this case cause you're the one making the move
/r/seduction17/08/10 12:34 AM
3

I feel like "aloof" is as far as it needs to go. Any time you lock down exactly what your relationship with someone is with a title you give her power. Anxiety and possibility are good.
/r/seduction17/08/10 12:28 AM
1

THats probably why. Unintentional cockblock
/r/seduction16/08/10 11:30 PM
2

get better at sex. Cuddle afterward. text her less.
/r/seduction15/08/10 02:17 AM
1

teah, bu reality is your long term mate potential as a girl is affedted by number?
/r/seduction12/08/10 04:03 AM
2

sarcasm is lost on some people. have an upvote.
/r/seduction12/08/10 04:00 AM
6

This not really a PU crash and burn
/r/seduction12/08/10 03:57 AM
1

saying things like that over text takes no balls. Thats why it's creepy.
/r/seduction07/08/10 05:13 PM
1

Ok, Then 2 questions? 1) Does it bother you that she had your number not you hers? Does this happen to you often? 2) What is your explanation for the overqualification in the joke? It reeks f forced macabre rapport imo.
/r/seduction07/08/10 04:42 PM
1

Why did she have your number instead of you having hers? Thats what led to the over qualification in the form of unsettling jest. It kept her very much in the frame of the chooser, the selector, (the eye can get your girl mad at you without even giving it up girl). It's just a bad dynamic. And the distance is killer too. Having long texts conversations with someone that far away is lame. Just my two cents. You probably did a good job in the conversation itself to keep it lasting.
/r/seduction07/08/10 04:22 PM
1

anyone who can plow through a planned "ljbf" to her waking up in the morning wondering "how did that happen?" is not going to feel like he "connected"with someone over a six hour text conversation. Last two chicks for me i prolly texted both like 10 times each, and all setting plans. not "hey how's your day?"
/r/seduction22/07/10 02:56 AM
0

you make a point that needs upboats badly
/r/seduction19/07/10 03:45 AM
2

Facebook is a no. always
/r/seduction28/06/10 03:41 AM
1

I would warn younger readers (under 25 maybe) to be careful about doing this. Full body lotion massages seem a bit try hard in college/high school experience IMExp
/r/seduction15/06/10 12:00 AM
1

Yeah I should have mentioned that. That was a very good move.
/r/seduction09/06/10 11:28 PM
2

subway pass ftw
/r/seduction09/06/10 11:27 PM
1

I wouldn't worry. The detail makes it useful as a way of best gauging the mood. The more dynamic it is the more valuable. I think that is why seddit considers you with such respect.
/r/seduction09/06/10 01:46 AM
1

You're right. I thought for something that would hook, but i think there are better ways. How would you increase emotional interaction in the convo?
/r/seduction08/06/10 10:56 PM
1

I think thiss is a fantastic idea
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:39 PM
1

Why the downvote? This all seems true to me
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:33 PM
2

Fore arm, shoulder, knee, leg, hair, neck It shouldn't feel flirty until knee
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:25 PM
1

Next time you get shit tested by a girl you don't care that much about, but if your in front of HB's rip her to shreds. Anything you know she is self concious about, ust flay her with it. So its, "aw Carlos, you're such a cute sweet teddy bear." "I'm the baby bear and your like the big fat grizzly huh?" Probem solved
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:23 PM
1

yeah ts great. Just needs a neg (a qualifier would be good) and a dhv and that should make it more emotionally investing. Hence less flaking. Still thugh good style, although my ego would never let me pretend to be at a loss for words. Also did you consider an instadate?
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:17 PM
1

It is not possible to love someone until you've bnged them. Until then you just really want them.
/r/seduction08/06/10 12:01 PM
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Additionally although the percentage of inelligent women at a club may be less then the percentage of intelligent women at a "cause" kind of event or a book store or something are more likely to be ugly and or annoying. Additionally intelligence in women is definitely a good thing. Hwever understand finding a woman as logical as you is going to be nigh on impossible, especially a desirable one.
/r/seduction08/06/10 11:58 AM
1

well done. keep your focus
/r/seduction07/06/10 11:35 PM
1

As a heads up any girl (except a lesbian) with all guy friends, or who says things like "It's so much easier to be friends with guys" is almost a guaranteed attention seeker. This is bad, and should be a potential disqualifier. It's not a good dynamic. Extrapolated further, understand that pick up can not change anyone. You trying to change a girl is like a girl trying to change a guy. It won't work.
/r/seduction07/06/10 11:34 PM
3

Pull out man.
/r/seduction07/06/10 02:27 AM
1

props
/r/seduction03/06/10 03:07 AM
2

No. But i have a feeling we have very few of those women here. YOu want to show some balls go post this in r/women or 2X
/r/seduction03/06/10 01:04 AM
1

As a tall skinny guy I second what intjpua said. The one part I would second is to lift weights. The less gumby like you look the better. Also if I were you I would definitely go out and pretend to be a semi-succesful basketball player, especially if you think you could pull it off. But thats the sort of wacky shit i like to do so take it with a grain of salt.
/r/seduction01/06/10 02:45 PM
1

You sir are a boss. Well done. Keep it up as much as it is worth it to you
/r/seduction01/06/10 02:41 PM
1

It is about you. If it was someone with their shit on lock they wouldn't say these things. However it is reasonably simple to change the behaviors that lead to this. For that see others advice in this thread. However, remember only you can change your behavior which will change how you are treated. You can not ssimply dismiss the objections of your targets. Otherwise you can not get to where you want to be. And as a caveat, yeah there a bitches out there. Sorry.
/r/seduction01/06/10 01:03 PM
3

Morally? That is up to you. Logistically? It depends on how young/in shape you are, and how tight you're game is. Pplaying sugar daddy is generally considered to be a lot of expense for little reward.
/r/seduction30/05/10 08:43 PM
5

You're right. I think I should downvote myself honestly
/r/seduction30/05/10 06:54 PM
2

Assertive alpha chicks, especially ones who know why they do what they do make great friends. Definitely a good call
/r/seduction29/05/10 08:07 PM
2

don't make it obvious you're approval seeking though
/r/seduction29/05/10 08:05 PM
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I like to say "Fuck the set" and do my best to ruin their evening, call them fat annoying, bitchy, whatever. That way hopefully she'll change her behavior. PU is very accomodaing of the worst in women, and I think it is good to strike back sometimes
/r/seduction29/05/10 08:04 PM
0

I'm curious as to why you ask? It's just so much easier when they and you are drunk
/r/seduction25/05/10 03:11 AM
3

touch
/r/seduction08/05/10 01:17 AM
1

You mean you got to a level of natural game that meant you didn't need the community anymore, so now you'll shit on it for shitting on its members? This is dumb
/r/seduction07/05/10 07:04 PM
1

talk little, touch lot
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:47 PM
1

Going after him disqualifies you. It shows you are not loyal to your friend. I have a friend who is similar and although he is my best friend we never hit on girls together, and any girl i want i keep away from him until after sex
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:47 PM
1

fantastic
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:46 PM
1

Yeah a wing might be a bad idea, since they clearly have different priorities. This guy sounds like he does this shit so that he gets valdiation from lots of girls while still having a girlfriend. I think he should avoid hitting on girls with him around.
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:43 PM
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That will come with time. There are girls you want to be friends with cause they're fun, and it only takes one time having someone female to talk too after a bad break up to make you feel better.
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:39 PM
1

Think about sex and invade her space
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:37 PM
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Yeah, remember that seduction is two people and the comfort phase is important for you too. This will come with experience. For now I would hop back on that shit. If you're concerned don't worry, this is fairly typical shit for lots of guys, even ones college aged.
/r/seduction02/05/10 10:35 PM
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Dude, seduction is a word. Words have meaning. It's not an opinion, you can not opine about the meaning of words. Regardless of whether I insist that blue actually means red blue still is blue. And seducing someone (as in the case of what the OP asked for) is seducing someone. Seducing!= making life better. Making your life better aids seducing. Now I don't disagree with you, and think dating your therapist whether current or former is probably a bad idea. But there is enough moralizing and unwa…
/r/seduction28/04/10 08:00 PM
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Then if she posted it in /needadvice, or /relationshipadvice go for it. This is r/seduction. We don't do morals, we get people laid
/r/seduction28/04/10 07:42 PM
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Dude, this is not what she asked for. She wants to bone him. We're supposed to help with that. The is /r/seduction, not /r/needadvice. She hasn't asked for this, she's asked for help seducing him. And she's not gonna do it while she is his client anyway. And I don't think you know what oneitis is if you think it applies to her post.
/r/seduction28/04/10 07:19 PM
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Did you even read it dude? This guy is not making passes at her. He is simply telling her she is a cool person. On what basis is her therapist a creep?
/r/seduction28/04/10 07:18 PM
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Therapists are good about sensing manipulation. If you know he likes you, and he is single, finish therapy and then ask him out. While your in therapy you have little to no chance, because that is rule number one for therapists (not to fuck their clients)
/r/seduction28/04/10 04:09 PM
5

That sounds terrible
/r/seduction28/04/10 03:52 PM
2

The general concensus on smiling seems to be that there are two types of smiling. Self satisfied smiles, and supplicating smiles. If you make sure your having a good time, your natural facial expression (either a huge smile, or a smug smirk) will be attractive. If you are supplicting and trying to look friendly your smile will not reach your eyes and you will look try-hard.
/r/seduction27/04/10 08:06 PM
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http://www.rooshv.com/it-doesnt-matter-if-she-orgasms-or-not
/r/seduction27/04/10 07:50 PM
2

Whether it works or not I don't think I would want to be with a girl willing to put up with that sort of rudeness from a guy.
/r/seduction26/04/10 01:51 AM
2

Thats a great post and i agree totally. Way way too many people just don't kino nearly enough
/r/seduction26/04/10 01:49 AM
2

Your qualifications are far greater then mine, so to any readers, assume evolution theory is correct. However I still disagree. Were you to have said start kino as soon as you open? sure. However, I actually have initiated contact with people by touching them, however that tends to be; a) when it is one person; walking up to a set and immediately kinoing one of them, target or not generally looks weird, unless everyone is drunk, or there is a good reason for it. And secondly, if you go straight …
/r/seduction25/04/10 10:10 PM
1

The most important thing you can do to help yourself with women is accept that they are fundamentally very different from you, think very differently from you and judge things differently from you. As a developed male you will see things mostly in the logic/problem solving spectrum, while most women will see thing in the wishful/emotional spectrum. Learn to accept this and to love this. Value the difference that they represent, and recognize that they balance you. yin to yang. They are not test …
/r/seduction25/04/10 09:32 PM
0

Horseshit. That sounds creepy.
/r/seduction25/04/10 09:27 PM
2

All of the advice is good, and i have little to add. but here it is; 1) Are your standards too high? - Do you find yourself not talking to girls because they are not hot enough to sleep with? If so start talking to them immediately, you will learn things that ill help you get with the hotter girls. 2) Your study of seduction will never get you laid. Your practice of it will
/r/seduction25/04/10 09:24 PM
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First, I think you shouldn't have responded with the "zzzz" line. Secondly, wait for her to text you. If she does let her in. If she doesn't after a week a simple "Hey what r u up to text?" followed by an invite to do something Other suggestions or thoughts guys?
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:20 PM
1

No Facebook. Ever.
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:54 PM
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Lots of threads about AMOG's worry me. This very rarely happens if you go out and sarge, and is instead a fear largely of keyboard jockeys. Seriously AMOGing is not a big deal. If you go out and hit on girls there will not be ed hardy douches constantly around insulting you. From postdarwins link: "If you find yourself getting AMOG'd a lot, then you are drawing it to yourself. I can count on one hand the number of AMOG situations I've dealt with in ten years of going out."
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:48 PM
1

you're hanging around too many needy women. bollocks. what a copout
/r/seduction21/04/10 06:48 PM
1

I use my own name
/r/seduction28/03/10 11:23 PM
1

I wouldn't know. A multiple year relationship is still in my future. I would agree that we are not biologically programmed for them though.
/r/seduction25/03/10 10:33 PM
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TLDR Decent with girls in high school, got oneitis senior year and LJBF, went to college, learned game, got into a relationship with oneitis, lost it because my game was all mental and had not become part of who i was. Recovered from break up, focused on natural game now in an LTR with a woman far more desirable. Sure; I had a fairly typical high school experience for most of the above average intelligence white males that probably populate this subreddit. A girlfriend sophmore year, another jun…
/r/seduction25/03/10 08:27 PM
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Ok, a couple of questions; Do you still "shit-test" your boyfriend? How does your boyfriend respond when you are being a (for lack of a better word) a bitch? How do you respond to your boyfriend when he is a dick? Do you believe that his "don juaning" gave him the skills he needed to create and sustain a relationship with you? What "weak and silly things" are you talking about? I know that I can do things like write my GF poetry, or buy her flowers, or give her spontaneous "I love you's" but in …
/r/seduction25/03/10 07:42 PM
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I'm not advocating against game. I am certainly very very strongly in favor of using artificial game to "fake it till you make it" However, there will be slip ups. If you go out and use this shit, while it is still new to you and you haven't handled it well you will make mistakes. Mistakes your LTR might not survive. Whereas if your just trying to get a bunch of lays..Well who cares right? My point is that LTR game is very long and difficult. A solid grounding in what works and what doesn't gain…
/r/seduction25/03/10 06:12 PM
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Why the down votes?
/r/seduction25/03/10 06:01 PM
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No but she is self confident enough in what she desires to know that he better be it. IE funny, personabkle, attractive, comfortable, decisive etc... PU routines are the beggining. They help you learn. Then you can figure it out. No, the woman of your dreams will likely not fall in love with you because you run the cube routine on them.
/r/seduction25/03/10 05:41 PM
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Until you have the power there is nothing to understand. And your ability to show why game works is probably very limited by such posts like "The girls I like don't pay attention to me" You, who theoretically have so much knowledge and power are not in an LTR with a woman who you love. I, an undisguised asshole, and disciple of the harshest game, am. She loves me very much. I love her very much. Prior to my learning about GAme, and changing myself accordingly she would not be with me
/r/seduction25/03/10 05:27 PM
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Dude, I get it believe me. But first, I think pissing off assholes like me is a waste of your time. We're proliferating left and right. Secondly, read over your posts. Find me one that has a detailed methodology for getting the result the asker wants. If you find one or two great. Then count your posts that are some variant of "Don't do that" "You don't need game" "Be yourself" or basically anything that a PUA would call AFC. Now, I am glad that you can get laid without game. I myself use very l…
/r/seduction25/03/10 05:03 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bhyp9/seddit_how_many_of_you_study_the_material_not/c0mv2pr Here you say you don't want to use game to keep a woman around. That is the whole point of this subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bfiiv/getting_called_out_on_the_game/c0muz2b Here you say stop reading so much bullshit from dating gurus. The whole point of this subreddit is using these materials, be they mystery method or whatever. You are in essence saying "Be yourself" some…
/r/seduction25/03/10 04:47 PM
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Because your every post is anti-thetical to the entire idea of this sub reddit? I don't mean to sound rude, or to tell you what to do, but I feel as if r/relationship advice is more your style
/r/seduction25/03/10 04:27 PM
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You care about getting laid. You don't care about the individual girls
/r/seduction25/03/10 02:11 AM
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Dude, why are you in this subreddit? I still have no idea
/r/seduction25/03/10 02:10 AM
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Smart
/r/seduction12/03/10 01:53 PM
1

You have the courage and will powwer to derive yourself esteem solely from yourself. This is very rare and precious. Most people here will never be able to do that. How you got there would be interesting. If you don't mind; are you in a relationship? What is your notch count? How many women would you guess you have approached? How many have you kissed? If you are in a relationship what is her attractiveness on an honest 1-110 bell curve? Honestly, I am starting to think you are fronting. Much of…
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:36 PM
1

In thaat case I think it would be safe to assume that you are much further along in your natural game then most peeople here, including me. This is cool and it is good. But please respect those who are not therre yet. A simple "Be yourrself" is not helpful
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:33 PM
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Dude, I am in a relationship wwith a "high value woman" She has told me to my face thaat if i was less assertive, less confident, and less able to put up with her own neuroses I would have had no chance. In other words my contrived "alphaness" has given me the greatest gifft possible. I have comee to terms with the fact that who i was (this unchanging static vision of "me") would not be loved for who I am by the women I want. Why? Not because I wasn't good enough, but because I did not love myse…
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:22 PM
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Yes it is. You are an organism, You are programmed first to survive and then to reproduce. Unless you believe in a completely sociological constructed view of reality, which in my opinion means you are not living in *the reality8 Secondly, your sself esteem iss not set on achieving goalss out side of your control. It is set on achieving goals wwithon your control. I am skinny. I will never look like Arnold Schwarzenegger nor will I ever bench 350. I can bench my body weight. In life you will hav…
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:19 PM
1

Yes it can. Witnessing social interaction is good. it will not come anywhere close to helping your game as making five day time approaches every day will, and that would take even less time.
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:32 PM
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I have complete faith both in your ability to change and to eventually get what you want. Please don't let those who will accept a less then perfect version of yourself exist get to you. Take your motivation where you find it, break down your walls, build your self esteem, and someday in the future come back here and mock these silly little people (myself included). All the best, never surrender, never give in.
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:25 PM
1

Simply what worked for me. I've been crawling across a floor scratching my fingernails to bloody shreds cause my heart hurt so bad. I don't want him to be the same way.
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:21 PM
1

Dude, I'm nineteen years old. It is not a "true religion" In fact I would be willing to bet it is fundamentally flawed, juvenile, childish and wwill not lead to lasting fulfillment. But for me right now it works for what I want. It works because I have a woman who less then a year ago would be out of my league telling me and more importantly acting towards me in a way that shows that she very very truly loves me and is attracted to who I am on a primal level. And when I realize that there is a h…
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:17 PM
1

Self esteem is not some magical thing you "have" Self-Esteem comes from rising and meeting challenges. Destroy his self-esteem? There is not a shred of self-esteem in the post. Where you get your self esteem is simple. You find what you want and you overcome obstacles to do it, and then you lie back with a big old grin on your face, and your dick in a mouth and think; "I did this. This was me. I am solely responsible through my own skill for getting what I want" It's the same feeling after destr…
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:13 PM
1

I agree with you. I just feel that it is very unhealthy to describe your life as a "sad pathetic thing" or the way you described it in your post. By your own standards of what you want you are doing fine. This girl will almost certainly want to see you again, you've made a good impression and you have manned up and went down and kissed her. It is well with in reason to get what you want out of this relationship. But if what you just posted is what you really want you should be less harsh on your…
/r/seduction11/03/10 08:05 PM
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Dude, there is way way to much field testing going on with "Game" to attempt to debunk it. It would be like if we went back to the sixteenth century and tried to run game vs. castiglione. Game would fail. Why? Sociological changes. To me it sounds like Castiglione is in fact the same thing as "game" but for a more repressed and civilized culture
/r/seduction11/03/10 07:54 PM
1

Yeah, randian objectivism was my go-to philosophy before I moved into evolutionary psychology.
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:44 AM
1

Dude well done. You manned up masterfully. Push yourself, take pride in overcoming your nerves, do what you want, and eventually raw self confidence will come. Killing it, well done.
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:43 AM
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I honestly didn't think it was that bad. Although I would be celibate for fifteen years before I ever used that sort of grammar in a text.
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:42 AM
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Everyone is being very supportive of you. Fuck that. Random hate on the internet might be a better motivator then random congratulations on the internet. I would talk to a friend who has lots of sex and have him make you feel like shit. Then I would sit in your room and tell yousrself that you hate yourself. That you do not want to be who you are. That no matter what this is not who and what you want to be. Then contemplate suicide. And then change. Gotta want it. The longer you tell yourself "I…
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:40 AM
1

All an alpha male is is one who has sexual choice and could if he chose to do so have sex with a large quantity of women. They are not. They are definitely cool though. Alpha vs. Beta is not good vs. bad. It is loneliness and lotss of sex vs. comraderie and not enough sex to fulfill you.
/r/seduction11/03/10 09:34 AM
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Just tell her "Yeah, right" I've been with you around guys. No one's ever hit on you
/r/seduction10/03/10 11:59 PM
2

My friend who is smart and tutors girls has a 3.9 at a tech school and will be finishing his masters in math one semester after i finish my bachelors despite b eing the same age as me. He is also my chauffeur. My friend who is sytlish and metrosexual has amazing taste i wish i had. My friend who is "the nice guy" is a masterful social networker and is friends with everybody My natural friend has had sex with 70 women, gives off powerful alpha vibes and clearly respects me as an alpha too. They a…
/r/seduction10/03/10 11:54 PM
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well done. I love to see success stories on seddit.
/r/seduction10/03/10 10:12 PM
5

Mens rights advocates fall far often into a victim mentality to be taken seriously as men bettering themselves
/r/seduction10/03/10 06:03 PM
4

Just don't give a fuck. You have too much tied up in this, like it is something that is supposed to define you. Fuck that, this is some random slut off craigslist. Remind yourself how good you are at your job, how much you love your family and go screw this chicks brains out
/r/seduction10/03/10 06:01 PM
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First off, props to him. Secondly, a red knit ski cap might count as peacocking, but sounds silly to me. Thirdly the writing implies clear bias against the game. Fourthly it is far easier (IMO) to act the castiglione part, but too easy to look like an asshole running game. I might have missed the part in the mystert method that talks about one upping everything. Basically I don't think your friend knows enough game to write thius article objectively. His number close in part 2? They'll flake or …
/r/seduction10/03/10 05:58 PM
1

You can do it subtly. If your in boardshorts and flip flops at the beach with no shirt, fine. If you're in the bathroom with your camera phone and a mirror...
/r/seduction10/03/10 07:54 AM
1

People she would love to friendzone and leech off of via you. satisfied?
/r/seduction10/03/10 07:53 AM
1

http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/men_smiling2.png Not smiling no eye contact is + A 19 year-old showing his abs meets just under 1.4 women for every women he reaches out to, meaning that not only are females responding to his messages, but many are actually contacting him first. For a 31 year-old ab shower, that ratio has regressed to much closer to the average. Still above average. They liken it to showing your strengths.
/r/seduction09/03/10 10:56 PM
1

There was an OkCupid blog about how the most responded to pictures are of guys not smiling, looking off camera, and with muscles showing.
/r/seduction09/03/10 10:18 PM
1

No, but the people that do like you had better be cool fucking people. No alpha is complete without his provider beta's.
/r/seduction09/03/10 10:17 PM
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Girl's may say they like this, but it isn't an attractive quality. It's not unattractive, it just doesn't flip any attraction switches. Being dumb isn't good, but being smart doesn't help you out in any way either. Absolutelty true for PUA's. I'm an evolutionary psychologist and am looking for someone I want to have babies with. While Intelligence is not an attraction switch for all women it is for the ones with the underlying assumptions I am looking for. This is OK, but being able to protect l…
/r/seduction09/03/10 10:16 PM
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yeah Bang is good. I think the mystery method is best for figuring out a basic how, and an excellent blue print for faking it until you make it
/r/seduction09/03/10 06:34 AM
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I really think it would be easy to get away with not accepting a friend request until after you've fucked her. Advice for how to make it woman friendly? I guess just have a cool life
/r/seduction09/03/10 06:31 AM
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http://xkcd.com/458/ make life happen
/r/seduction09/03/10 06:29 AM
2

Dude, you are way too full of excuses for yourself. They will hurt you worse then your ego. This girl likes you and is yours to lose. Please don't, or you'll end up like me
/r/seduction09/03/10 05:55 AM
1

But excuses won't either. Real men do work
/r/seduction09/03/10 05:54 AM
4

I think it is a waste of time. It adds another roadblock (an unnecessary one) and more room for shit tests between when you first meet a girl and when you fuck her. If your gonna do it make it show just your most basic info and profile pic. A cool facebook page is never gonna reel a girl in and a bad one could repulse her. I think you would be better served focusing on other things.
/r/seduction09/03/10 04:41 AM
1

I want to hear what happened
/r/seduction09/03/10 12:59 AM
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It helps if we know a little bit more about who you are. Some general pointers? Do it indirectly, no one likes a bragger. Remember what you find impressive she might not find impressive You should be able to form a logical connection between a DHV and either of these two things; 1) ability but need to provide for her babies if she is good enough for you 2) The ability to defend her if she is good enough for you to want too So a story about going on a trip is not a DHV. A story about going on a t…
/r/seduction09/03/10 12:42 AM
1

I just don't see y u closed the window
/r/seduction08/03/10 11:59 PM
0

Basically game is a somewhat sociopathic construct. If you use it, and believe it, you will begin to display sociopathic tendencies. So while you still believe in morality ask yourself if you want to be a sociopath. Because once you are one it is way to much fun to go back. Then you blow your brains out when your forty
/r/seduction08/03/10 10:39 PM
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I reposted this cause fidesratioque messed it up somehow. I still see no I dea why this should be in this forum. Seek a long-term mate, stay with her, and invest in their joint offspring (the “dad” strategy); or seek a large number of short-term mates without investing in any of the resulting offspring (the “cad” strategy). I would guess most people here want the cad strategy. Or at minimum don't wwant to be little beta providers for women who spent their twenties fucking attractive cads and "se…
/r/seduction08/03/10 10:18 PM
1

Dude, there is no link
/r/seduction08/03/10 10:03 PM
1

Sorry, I missed your first post. I can't seem to find the link
/r/seduction08/03/10 10:01 PM
1

He is not a nerd. He is alpha as fuck. He just so happens to be involved in a nerdy career.
/r/seduction08/03/10 09:55 PM
1

http://www.rooshv.com/respecting-women Yes. Women will shit test men to find out if they are "beta" Refusing to fall for these shit tests is usually seen by beta men as being an "asshole" The women who love them though do not think they are assholes. Witness Rihanna, or the millions of other women who put up with domestic violence. Sociopathic tendencies excite women because it means that you are a man who doesn't have to live by the rules. So yes, be an asshole. Just don't be an asshole to the …
/r/seduction08/03/10 09:53 PM
2

I strongly second the advice to make friends who are girls. This will help immeasurably.
/r/seduction08/03/10 09:05 PM
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The problem is that my experiences are awesome. I'm loving it, thinking and living this way. I just banged out in a laundry room for god's sake. In fact I would be willing to bet that I am happier then you, and I never ask girls what they want. I tell them what they want. And that way i don't have to waste my time waiting for them to decide stupid shit.
/r/seduction08/03/10 02:41 AM
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If the "emotional connection" is as real as you say it is at this point all you have to do is leave. Don't talk to her for a month. Then invite her to chill with her, make sure you look good and have DHV'ed and then fuck her. This reminds me of my experience with one-itis. Once I stopped giving her the emotional validation she wanted all of a sudden i had "grown-up" and "matured." Just remember that the interaction you have with her needs to be entiraly on your terms. Not because that is necessA…
/r/seduction07/03/10 07:02 PM
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I would advise against asking her what she wants. In my experience women are under so many conflicting messages about what happiness is that they don't actually know what they want.
/r/seduction07/03/10 06:59 PM
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I'm glad to hear that. It means you read any/ all of this shit for a good reason. I hope you keep her on her toes, keep her life dramatic and make her love you. Good luck.
/r/seduction07/03/10 06:57 PM
2

I'm nineteen. i can't even front. I've hit on girls in bars on the only two occasions I've ever been in a bar, but got a kiss close and a number close. Most of my game occurs in daytime (recently) or in college house parties (which I understand is an easier setting for it then a bar). So my environment is probably more conducive then most peoples. But the beauty of game is that it's underlying principles are rock solid. And I have been in the trenches. I've fucked the 5's when just starting out,…
/r/seduction07/03/10 01:12 AM
1

I think here is your mental hang up. To you your version gives her choice over what happens to her. All she has to do is say "I don't want to talk about this" or something along those lines. It's respectful of her and her boundaries. To me I consider the choice to be in being around me. if you're a hot woman and you're around me I'm gonna want to bang and do it however I can get away with it. I'll make sure you're aware of this without being threatening. So in my book I also have given her a cho…
/r/seduction06/03/10 11:51 PM
2

I'm probably one of the worst people to ask when it comes to advice on what books to read. I read the "Game" and "Mystery method" I read a bit of double your dating, but felt it largely didn't apply to me, and even though I love Juggler I thought a lot of what he writes is very nebulous and vague and lacking in methodology. I believe the mystery method with a strong understanding of evolutionary psychology is most of what you need. Shit like NLP... well I've always thought it was creepy and neve…
/r/seduction06/03/10 11:46 PM
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This post is going to be an excersize in futility but I am going to try. First and foremost I'm basing this off the assumption that you think there is something wrong with manipulating her. This is false. Sex is fun, it feels good, it can make you feel loved. She (for reasons outside of her control) does not get to experience it. Think about how miserable that must be? She clearly can't "fix" this by herself, and this poster wants to help her with that. His ulterior motives or anything do not ma…
/r/seduction06/03/10 11:05 PM
8

Since this is in r/seduction I assume he wants to at some point bang this chick, not be her cute little beta therapist.
/r/seduction06/03/10 10:37 PM
2

In a situation in which a high five would be appropriate grab her hand and twirl her. As she twirls steal her seat. Laugh about it and segue into a funny story
/r/seduction06/03/10 10:28 PM
5

I think your issue is one in your mind not a flaw of game. If you really are negging her right away and shit, if your game is tight she should be feeling undeniable attraction. if you have alpha body language and decisive mannerisms what you say is pretty much irrelevant. You can literally open with anything, especially once you have a lot of approaches under your belt and are less invested in a set. i think what you're doing is in your mind you think logically. "I can't just initiaate a convers…
/r/seduction06/03/10 09:53 PM
7

find a new one, you've already lost. It's been what three or four weeks since you guys first chilled? Thats too long for simple 'hard to get' plus that makes no sense anyway cause she already got with you. You are a notch on her bed post, she is one on yours, find another one.
/r/seduction06/03/10 09:36 PM
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Get really comfortable with her, get verbal commitments of lust, then kiss her. Try to escalate. She won't let you. Take your pants off and jerk right in front of her. Act like it is no big deal.
/r/seduction06/03/10 09:34 PM
1

Well i mean I wouldn't say it is my main method of validation but yes, when I have sex with a girl I feel as if she has accepted me completely and totally in the most real way. I like it.
/r/seduction06/03/10 01:15 AM
1

Thanks for that idea of hype. Sometimes I get way too critical of things and myself and I focus on shit having to be perfect (witness my "Is this alpha post" lol) and can't operate on that margin for error.
/r/seduction05/03/10 10:08 PM
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First, I would reccomend against the fuck off or I'll fucking kill you strategy. I know it sounds silly for me to offer advice, since I'm the one asking about how to deal with AMOGing, but as a similarly disadvanteged guy (I'm 6'1" but weigh only 145 pounds) I know that it is practically impossible to be taken seriously. Most girls I'm around for long periods of time become aware that I would be capable if it came to physical violence, but actively intimidating other men has never worked for me.…
/r/seduction05/03/10 10:05 PM
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Fine, but what could it offer the r/pua doesn't? Whats to stop your sub reddit from being dead too. Especially since I really don't think their are lots of real dedicated venusian artists here. Most guys on reddit i think just want soem help with women. They don't want to dedicate their lives to finding validation via sex, and frankly i don't blame them.
/r/seduction05/03/10 06:24 PM
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Ok, well if it's about sex make sure that they don't know that it is an open relationship. The women likely to sleep with you, but not demand appropriate emotional intimacy are the same ones that will be ok being the "other girl." Feel free to play up the "illicit affair" angle, for some women (the ones you want) it makes their vaginas tingle. As far as strategy? At all times remember that no matter what you have someone else to have sex with and who will give you all the validation you need. Ir…
/r/seduction05/03/10 05:36 PM
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Yeah, thats probably your best bet. Sometimes it is hard to pull the trigger, especially when your new to this shit and are not sure it works. You have to do it though. Many begining PUA's think approach anxiety is the hardest part of game. But that is easy to get rid of once you've opened a couple hundred (that's how long it took me) sets. But to gain confidence pulling the trigger, you need to do that lots of times as well. I think a good way to start this is the mystery "Do you want to kiss m…
/r/seduction05/03/10 05:12 PM
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We're chatting, she starts opening up to me Here is your problem. She controlled the frame the whole time. You're inability to take control of the situation failed you. If it was just her and you you should have escalated to a kiss within fifteen minutes at most. If she wants it that's feasible. If she doesn't it means you don't have to waste your time. How familiar are you with various aspects of gme? Have you read the mystery method. To me this sounds like comfort building happened before attr…
/r/seduction05/03/10 02:37 AM
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No i wouldn't. Believe me most of the women in 2X would call me a misogynist. I think women are silly illogical creatures who will happily be dominated and led like sheep and love you for it. But you can't hate them. That's what misogyny is, hating women. Now, I can spout whatever shit i want on the internet. I can tell women in real life that they're silly and illogical and would be better off letting me decide things for them. but, you have to love them. You have to love them for the happiness…
/r/seduction04/03/10 07:12 AM
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True, a good PUA will never get labeled a creep by his target.
/r/seduction03/03/10 02:27 AM
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I think this deserves more attention. Misogyny is 100% anti-thetical to good game.
/r/seduction03/03/10 02:24 AM
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I'm concerned about this idea of a "balanced interaction" My understanding was that in a first contact you are expected to do most of the work. Thoughts? Otherwise thanks and great post.
/r/seduction03/03/10 02:23 AM
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Cause i can and it feels good. Why did Tiger?
/r/seduction24/02/10 04:04 PM
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I cheat on my girlfriend. I'm an idiot. He just notices IOI's. He is aware
/r/seduction24/02/10 01:58 PM
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I mean that's about as far as you can go right? I mean unless you try some kino or whatever, but that's just not good cause you can't ait anywhere cause of the girlfriend and attraction causes stress in the workplace. I mean sure wanting you to teach her poker is an IOI. Remember though, all this focus on your inner game will attract men too if you're doing it right. Short of escalating a situation you really can't know. But a wink and a grin at an appropriate time never got someone sued for har…
/r/seduction23/02/10 09:12 PM
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Sounds fine to me. I mean unless there is something else going on your not telling us.
/r/seduction23/02/10 07:24 PM
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This is a weird fucking situation. She is coming over ostensibly for the express purpose of telling you a story? You're not expected to make some sort of plans? Shit. Um, does she smoke weed? That would be good. Or I guess if you and her sit on the couch and snack on good shit talking. Would alcohol be appropriate? Like if you just so happened to have a cse of beer in your fridge? I would say she at minimum she is there for the kiss, so this is largely yours to lose. Focus on comfort and some at…
/r/seduction23/02/10 05:41 PM
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I just like women who wouldn't spend time debating that kind of shit. It seems a recipe for stress
/r/seduction23/02/10 05:35 PM
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Practice i guess
/r/seduction23/02/10 12:54 PM
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On some level who cares? How many of us are ever goin g to pick-up some girl who would ever post on 2X? Who would want a girl that post's on 2X? And even if we did I'd be willing to bet they would be the people who agree with it.
/r/seduction23/02/10 12:49 PM
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I mean unless there is some one it makes more sense for you to sit next to I think you should sit with her. I mean otherwise you look like your mad about the weekend if you don't sit with her. Which you're not cause you had an awesome weekend right?
/r/seduction23/02/10 12:13 PM
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It just means she was nervous but was sticking around. It's called tension
/r/seduction22/02/10 07:14 PM
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Ok, this shit might be meta-game to me since I'm in college. But generally "I was having a party at my house..." and then continue. Basically just try to make her feel how you felt when you were sixteen and hanging out with the hot girl who was fucking a 20 year old black guy made you feel. Again, probably meta. At my school the business school is very prestigous, very hard to get into and very well respected. Most of the kids are middle class and need real degrees not bullshit. So many kids sta…
/r/seduction22/02/10 05:14 PM
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I generally try to work in these few within the first twenty minutes of a set; 1. I'm ninetten and have my own house 2. I'm an accounting major 3. I used to box 4. I lived in Australia for three years 5. I have lots of platonic girlfriends Now I run a very direct game. I spot IOI's very fast and escalate rapidly, so if your not used to doing that it is easy to go overboard a bit. And don't lie about your life. Thats contrary to what good pick up is about
/r/seduction22/02/10 04:45 PM
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I mean that's a very blunt way of saying a very good thing. That is direct and assertive, but it is also logical, and women hate logic. Focus on the emotions. If you'd have been like well I don't want you to go crazy having to focu on your boyfriend when I'm around or something like that. See they're dramatic, and she subconciously likes the idea of going crazy. Frame control. Also when it comes to stealing boyfriends it is absolutely essential that everything you guys do should be fun and inter…
/r/seduction22/02/10 04:38 PM
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Sit next to her. Ask her how her weekend was. Whatever sshe says she did that night have a story about you doing something funny and cooler when she aasks you about yours. Don't mention missing her and casually imply that you were with a fuck buddy. Like "Yeah, I was with my friend Claire and we had a blast. Bounced at like two in the morning" or whatever. Anything that implies that you had sex that night. This is sort of the equivalent of the "I have to go back to my friends in a bit line..." I…
/r/seduction22/02/10 04:32 PM
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Then it's probably an attraction phase thing. You either didn't use enough kino (probably), negged too hard or not enough or failed to tailor your DHV's to her specific needs. At this point she has the vast majority of the control. Now it is possible to regain that but just ignoring her won't work. So you need definite plans. If she texts you again go straight for it. You don't have the attraction to build comfort via text.
/r/seduction22/02/10 03:46 PM
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Wait till class then call her out on being a flake. Oh and read this http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/reversing-a-flake/
/r/seduction21/02/10 03:00 AM
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No it doesn't work that way. Remember she also has a bunch of other people to take care of, she gets hit on all the time, and she is not nearly in the same mindset of a chick partying at a bar. And it's really not eleven steps, it's just three things to keep in mind. And if you really think it is as easy as regular game go for it. Hit on ten waitresses and hit on ten girls at a bar. I guarantee you the bar is better.
/r/seduction18/02/10 08:42 AM
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Look game is simply an efficient method of getting what you want from women. If your not getting it your game fails. It's that simple. So if a woman is denying that they make mistakes in dating then there are two possibilities; 1) She doesn't respect you enough to admit failure 2) Or she just blanket won't. Which is something you should have been able to judge. That is a completely realistic situation imo.
/r/seduction17/02/10 11:43 AM
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Thats blatantly false. We might not understand it all, but yes, you are in fact a bag of atoms, which create molecules, which are chemicals.
/r/seduction17/02/10 07:30 AM
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It's the same concepts. You need to DHV, neg and look for IOI's. The problem is that you don't have time to really talk to her, the talking she does do has an ulterior motive, and she gets hit on constantly. So first and foremost you have to be more desirable then the other guys. It should look like your table is having the most fun, you all should be smiling, laughing and in general having a great time. Secondly you need very real tangible IOI's before you can go for any sort of reasonable clos…
/r/seduction17/02/10 07:26 AM
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In which case the problem is the girl. Which means you innacurately judged her. Which is a failure of a facet of game. If she is a good girl you can use game to make her think even things that are your fault are hers.
/r/seduction17/02/10 02:33 AM
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Well for example; 2 common precepts of most PU is 1) Act like you could leave in a second 2) Always be exciting and feeling oriented not logic or rationality oriented. So 2 Examples; I can sense she is getting bored and locked up. So I whine like a little bit of an AFC that she doesn't sleep over enough. She's like fine I'll sleep over on tuesday. She wants to flake cause of the snow storm. We're on the phone, hemming and hawing "Oh it's gonna snow" and I'm like "You're right babe, come over ear…
/r/seduction16/02/10 12:33 PM
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But don't you see? It is your fault. For your failure of game.
/r/seduction16/02/10 11:54 AM
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Yeah, the vast majority of 'game' i run anymore is for my single monogamous ltr. I mean if anyone cares i could write some things i do that get good results, but i can't even kiss other women right now. By things i do i mean like small gestures of alpha behavior
/r/seduction16/02/10 06:21 AM
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just turn your back on them and focus on the dancing
/r/seduction15/02/10 09:49 PM
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I've gotten decent results with; 1. skinny ties 2. All black clothes with bright red converse 3. I wore small chains wrapped around my wrists for a while, not sure how effective they were
/r/seduction11/02/10 04:12 PM
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You'll also notice it would have worked if the teacher hadn't denied him. Definitely a better view of him was given then Mr. Vodka breath
/r/seduction10/02/10 06:04 PM
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There is never too much. Forcing her to break eye contact asserts your dominance. For example: Girl breaks eye contact with you, lower her eyes and swings her hair in front of her face = shy and feminine Dude doing that = shy and feminine
/r/seduction09/02/10 05:35 AM
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Wow
/r/seduction09/02/10 05:33 AM
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If you're consistently picking up 9's / 10's do you have any field reports or a blog you could direct me too. I'm finding it hard to find good field reports for really hot girls
/r/seduction08/02/10 04:09 AM
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That's false. It's the sort of blanket generalization about women that is bad from a PUA standpoint. Cause if you were suitable alpha you could tell a girl what she does that annoys you and then she would change that. That's an AFC statement.
/r/seduction08/02/10 04:05 AM
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You will get better results though if you have a better reason to go the gym then just "get women." I took up boxing. Made me look alpha and is a great motivator for serious fitness.
/r/seduction08/02/10 04:03 AM
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