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CMVtempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 06:27 PM
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Discussiontempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:55 PM
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Debatetempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:48 AM
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tempuserthrowaway5/r/ExRedPill23/10/17 03:16 PM
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Discussiontempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 12:43 AM
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Question for Red Pilltempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:32 PM
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Question for Womentempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:50 PM
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CMVtempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:31 AM
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tempuserthrowaway5/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:04 PM
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tempuserthrowaway5/r/askTRP23/10/17 04:01 PM
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Why the fuck isn't the block troll funciton working on you
/r/askTRP18/08/19 05:48 PM
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You sound a little like a troll trying to troll another troll
/r/askTRP18/08/19 05:37 PM
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I'm female and 46. I was demoted to a plate status. My ex had found a main girl who's 36 and a little thinner. When this happened he made an offer to keep me on in a lesser capacity. I walked. Now I'm going to say something you probably wouldn't hear from a woman usually and that is I still don't think he made the wrong choice. He over estimated my interest in specifically him, but we're both happier in the long run. My ex is a catch, beautiful, healthy, smart and he found a much younger, thinne…
/r/askTRP18/08/19 06:06 AM
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Thanks much :-)
/r/askTRP17/08/19 08:43 PM
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How can you resent somebody who's life is way worse than yours. I'm 46, and became forever alone. Without hope for parole it's like a life sentence that cant improve. I hate my society and the feel of my own skin. Being born female has honestly been one of the hands down worst things that's ever happened to me. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 07:56 PM
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I would find it an abomination. I'm not sure why others don't
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:49 PM
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Fucking him is worthless if he doesn't love me as well. I'd be happier if he wanted my company often without fucking me but if he wanted to fuck me without wanting my company what good is that? Anybody can go out to a club and grind on a random person if they don't want a relationship.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:49 PM
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Not gonna fuck him but am going to build him a light house. Not much I can do. If somebody doesn't love you you can't fix that. Was hoping there'd be some magic answer
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:12 PM
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I dunno maybe. There's nobody like him but how bad do you want a sandwich if you have to eat it out of the toilet. I guess its like do I want to die w my self respect or not. I like him, there honestly will never be anybody like him and never has been anybody like him, but I don't think I'd regret avoiding humiliating myself. Being a charity case is what I'd regret. Thinking that being without him is worse than being inferior goods is what I'd regret. I couldn't spank another woman's ass, maybe …
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:11 PM
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Solid. Thank you.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:06 PM
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Nothing to do w attitude. You're a man so it doesn't matter for you and that's why you don't get it. Maybe YOU don't terminate at thirty but I did. If you were 57female you'd just resign to permanent abstinence mode and learn to be ok with it. As a dude no such issue. You don't understand it from the other side. Cyndi Crawford, I think she's single, and Angelina Jolie is awesome but Brad Pitt is off w Margo Robbie. I have some perks this guy doesn't have, some money, a valid drivers license, my …
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:06 PM
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HIV doesn't ask what gender you are, neither does herpes, hep and the rest.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 05:03 PM
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Exactly there's no real way to chose what somebody else does. F'd up tho.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:57 PM
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But if I'm too old then there's no point in doing all that. It sounds fun but also pointless. It's like being told I have cancer. Nobody wants to hear it but if you do you have to plan accordingly.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:52 PM
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This is what scares me. People my age are divorced and widowed after twenty years out of the market. We have to get back to living sometime.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:47 PM
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Honestly would you share a woman w 2-3 other dudes? Even if you loved her? Probably not. That's just nasty. I care about him, being with him would be a dream come true but it's not worth losing my heath and even if I did sleep with him he still wouldn't love me. It would be meaningless.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:37 PM
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lmao, dude. The question is how does a person go on in that state? Like what to do other than walk away. Laugh about it I guess? The question is implied in the title...what advice do you have for me?
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:25 PM
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I did this exact thing. It wasn't my weight. It was that I knew I was a plate and not a priority. It was my way of expressing to this guy how insecure and hurt he made me feel without being aggressive towards him about having other girls. He never figured out what I was trying to explain by calling myself fat so I dumped him.
/r/askTRP17/08/19 01:02 PM
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As for you as well, your behavior here has been reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:36 PM
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Look at the first thread in this line, I've PM'ed the mods and tell me how you would manage that issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:32 PM
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Ugh you have to waste time trying to make the life ruin-er like you? Doesn't that just encourage him, her or "it" to keep doing what it does to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:29 PM
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I'm going to take the above advice and block you as a user.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:27 PM
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It could be either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:21 PM
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But what if they won't go or they keep approaching you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:18 PM
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Thank you, that's a good way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:17 PM
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Maybe so biology has kept us all alive for this long.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 11:13 PM
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You too. Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:25 PM
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Oh shit..I'm sorry. Ha! I haven't been in "this" sub in a couple days. I'm responding to your comments but related to a wrong and unrelated context. Oh man. I'm so sorry. I hope you can see the humor about it. I thought your comments were coming to me from a different sub pertaining to a different subject. I apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:23 PM
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Those two loosers took themselves out of circulation and we should be grateful they are occupying each-other so the rest of us can breathe a little easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:05 PM
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Ha ha ha ha ha. Good for you, me neither. Life's too short to bang unhappily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:50 PM
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True it's possible for a guy to manufacture his own gold digger. Wealthy control freaks are abundant. Also sometimes with a bad end there's not just one side or the other to it. People use money to try and control each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:21 PM
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I'm being straight up with you about shorter bald guys being hot. If you get your body and abs in shape it's a look a lot of women like. http://www.outfittrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/goatee-1.jpg https://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Men-with-Shaved-Heads-and-Beards.jpg https://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Full-Goatee-Beard-Styles.jpg You get some nice cologne and work on how you stand (like the angle of your body)...and she won't notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:03 PM
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Short bald guys can be very hot, at 22 it shouldn't be to hard to cut back on the stocky. With a shorter balder guy a lady likes him to be very suave and have a nice cologne. I've seen a few real heart breakers like this. The types that get cried over for months were neither tall nor had a full head of hair. Not drinking will be in your favor with most reasonable ladies who aren't codependent. I don't know what you mean by incoherent. With bald shaving the whole head works best and it's a very n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:55 PM
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There's a lot of chicks who don't care about a guys money. There's women out there who will pay for him. Have you tried playing the bad boy card? Get some ripped jeans, some guy liner, maybe a couple tats? You'll probably meet sugar mamas at a bar, they tend to gravitate towards drunks most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:46 PM
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Ever since I've been broke nobody has flirted with me. There's an upside to it though, it sure weeded out a lot of players.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:39 PM
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Absolutely true. I'm very lucky to be single with no kids. I might be temporarily broke but some hard work will fix that. They can't do much more to me than they have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:16 PM
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You probably haven't talked to too many of us "ugly" chicks. I have a BFF that's a bit on the plump side, she found herself a very handsome husband who pawned her jewelry every couple months. It happens all the time. Now my ex hooked up with a woman who collects alimony for a living..the two are going to be one of the most toxic lazy couples on earth. I feel blessed to be somewhat away from them. They are both living off of the money of people they aren't even with anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:14 PM
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It was a divorce situation and the ex got literally everything. My ex worked(sometimes) but didn't have to, I'm just lucky I'm not paying alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:09 PM
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Love isn't tangible like money, but it's the most important thing on earth. What else decides the difference between "your" family and "a" family? It's only mild degrees of platonic love that keep people from killing one another. You can go on living without love, for a while, but then everything is cold and life has no flavor. If it's romantic love, platonic love, whatever the case there's no point to any of it without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:48 AM
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I would rather see a red front door light, and a garter belt full of money than to see people pretend something is a romance when it isn't. At least you know what time it is. But that's illegal so people "cover it up" by buying their "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" a car....which gives one or both parties an opportunity to lie to them-self about if they really have found their "soul mate". It's not until we loose our jobs that our "soul mates" turn up missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:18 AM
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No I'm a poor ugly woman, I was a rich ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:07 AM
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In my opinion most faces are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:06 AM
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Maybe it happens sometimes but for the most part if you are young it's not that hard to be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:42 PM
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The ability to ride that without falling off is a gift and a talent in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:41 PM
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I don't know where people are getting these ideas from. Beauty is relative and it fades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:40 PM
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Everybody wants that pipe dream
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:32 PM
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I've never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:22 PM
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I'm sorry to say it does happen. It happened to me. It happened to a BFF of mine too. Players know how to work and take. Players know how to take more than they give.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:13 PM
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Every chick is a hot chick for the first part of her life, but you'd have to go on living long after that. So then what would you do with your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:12 PM
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You don't think as a guy you could divorce rape an ugly fat woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:09 PM
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"Do you realize most of us men spend the best years of our lives working so we can have 5-7 years of retirement before we die." ^ Yep. That sounds like a reason to go your own way, but not a reason to use somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:57 PM
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I'd never let a woman use me again. ^ Right, exactly you'd never let another one put you in that position. So why would you want to turn around and become the person who burned you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:52 PM
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So even though this behavior is exactly what you want to save your bro's from now, if you were female you'd indulge in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:40 PM
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Cover your assets
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:21 PM
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1.) Never waste time on somebody who insults you. 2.) Don't count on people to always tell you the truth, but always tell them the truth anyway. 3.) Know when you stink. (It's the little things, check your shoes, have some gum)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:31 PM
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No this person wasn't a kid they were about forty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:14 PM
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I would think so. Some people opt out of treatment though, it's their choice but then they suffer the ill effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:12 PM
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It's a reminder that capitalism isn't optional, and good health never goes out of style.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:40 PM
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I wish I had a little bit more mean, I wish I had a little bit more green
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:43 PM
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Alcoholics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:43 PM
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I wish I looked like Travis Fimmel http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cp0LVW7_Y4o/UIFOnho-RMI/AAAAAAAACO8/6rhGBA1zexo/s1600/travis_fimmel_02.jpg I wish I was able to work with wood like Bob Villa I wish I could kick ass like Jackie Chan. I don't actually know any of those people IRL but they are motivating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:35 PM
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Yeah, there was something going wrong there on all counts. Health problems, maybe some emotional or psychological issues. Nice person, just not very well put together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:05 PM
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Well it sounds shallow but nobody can force them-self to be attracted to someone else if they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:58 AM
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Thank you, I find your response not only satisfying but direct and exactly what I was looking for. It's a tragic day when somebody disrespects our boundaries but we have to have some limits set somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:51 AM
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So it's like the wild west a little bit? grin There's no set rules on what it is, or what it means, that'll come out later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:50 AM
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Specifically skin related.. Ok, my opinion...Vitiligo is no big deal, scars are fine, eczema and psoriasis it depends on the situation. Something that is potentially contagious, untreated or not well kept up with would bother me a lot. I'm not at all vain or shallow but I can get a little germophobic. I did reject someone who was interested. This person had severe untreated facial rosacea, bad teeth and was un showered and overweight. I didn't reject a friendship, I thought very well of this per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:43 AM
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I never got the understanding of red pill vs "the" red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:29 AM
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I wonder if BP has false beliefs about women and RP has false beliefs about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:09 AM
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"Leather spinster" sounds like a really high end sofa from Hayne's Brothers. "Yeah I bought a leather spinster and a love seat from there but they didn't match the hardwood floors"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:34 AM
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The point is that the red pill's advice is so specific. It's advice for people on the upswing, which is the point in life when we really don't need advice. We need advice when the chips are down. There are a whole lot of people who already had the white picket fence, the matching Duvet covers, and the perfect recipes...but something went wrong. The reddit divorce thread has 13K people on it. "Some" stuff is a person's own fault sure, but there are other things where things happen. The Red Pill m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:32 AM
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Good for you. Nobody needs to put up with that. I had a person or two try the date by berate angle on me. I don't know why they thought it would work. They must be looking for someone with their tail between their legs who is afraid to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:31 AM
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That's not acceptable behavior on their part, however often it happens. I"m sorry that it did. As a female I've often instigated a violent counter assault when it's happened. Fortunately nobody (me or attacker) went to jail for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:29 AM
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There are quotes on red pill men such as "Never take advice from a woman", and consistent derogatory remarks about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:24 AM
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It's their word, not mine. What word would you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:23 AM
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The event itself would damage the relationship, I don't have all the answers, savings accounts, friends, family, some education, some work history all helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:28 AM
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It's up to the individual woman to decide where her line is and how much of either bad behavior she can stand. ^ Now that, is a good answer. That'll have to do for now and I have to go temporarily but I do think it's good feedback for RPW to know that most men are not "good men" most men are human men a little bit of good and bad together so that could make what they are talking about unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:27 AM
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They offer short term advice for situations that most people aren't in, and then when people need some good advice, where are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:22 AM
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this could be a good or bad thing depending. ^^^ I very much agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:18 AM
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sucking, but RPW advice is for after you've picked one who ostensibly doesn't suck, and when he starts sucking, the advice stops being "for" your relationship. ^^^ That reminds me of those friends that are only friends when you are on an upswing, the minute you get sick or in to some trouble they are long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:17 AM
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Not all women lie, not all women gamble, and not all women cheat. I'm not holding them to a higher standard, I"m just asking them to keep up. The red pill women seems to ignore flaws, overlook them, or have no back up plan that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:16 AM
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It's just that the viewpoint seems to be that men never fuck up royally and that's not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:13 AM
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Well we were giving analogies with the clothing store. That's why it looks ridiculous it was a metaphor. Alpha, Chad, or Beta none of them are immune from making bad decisions. The point is that your partner can fuck up, no matter who he is and people need to be prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:12 AM
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Right but meth heads are not born, they become meth heads. There's nothing saying these type of situations won't happen long into the relationship. Just like getting fired or having heart burn men go through stuff...and sometimes it's bad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:10 AM
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Lol. Be smart. stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:10 AM
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face palm If you are giving advice on how to have a harmonious relationship, and almost everything that could make the relationship non-harmonious is "outside the scope" then why have any advice? You would be stonewalling everybody on issues of hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:09 AM
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If you say so, I believe all things are about money in the end but back to my original question. If this is about how to have a "harmonious" relationship with someone else, what are you to do if the someone else is not being (or has stopped being) harmonious?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:07 AM
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Goal = harmony Challenges to said goal = stealing, cheating, drinking, zombies and monkeys. RPW advice = meh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:05 AM
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Dominant and violent can go hand in hand. Masculine and good are not necessarily opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:04 AM
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Everything is about income, it doesn't matter if it's clothing and fashion, vetting, hygee it's all about the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:04 AM
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I hope for your sake you hold out for someone who drives, and get your own license if you can do it, and be smart and stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:03 AM
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I feel that too. Here's to GTOW it's very freeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:02 AM
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And you are going to need what pray tell to be able to maintain your harmonious relationship...$$$$?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:02 AM
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Chad punches her in the mouth..she leaves...homeless Chad finds another girl..kicks her out...homeless Chad weasels his way into her realesate and wrecks her credit...homeless Chad goes bat shit one day....homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:01 AM
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So this masculine dominant man is a saint also? He never does meth, never drinks, never cheats, never stole even a stick of gum,he's just made out of bronze. He's never lied, he's never thought about lying, he never lost his job, he's never gambled and he's never going to get tired of you? Does that sum up the fictional character you are advocating a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:00 AM
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Because it's like having a clothing store that only sells size seven. If size 0-5 come in, if size 8-12 go in...nobody gets a dress. It's one size fits a select few.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:56 AM
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So are you ok with being arrested if he has a dime bag on him and stashes it on you? Or are you ok with driving his behind everywhere he goes if he looses his drivers license?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:55 AM
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If you have a woman who has prioritized a man, there are multiple situations in which she may become (however temporarily) homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:54 AM
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Well I'll keep her and you in my thoughts and I hope it gets better for you both. I'm sure it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:53 AM
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What people don't get about meth heads and wife beaters, is that they aren't born meth heads and wife beaters. Nobody pops out of the womb with a crack pipe so you can't weed them out. It's a bad choice somebody makes after and it could be after they are with you. So legitimately you are going to have an RPW or two come in to your forum crying one day because Chad just smoked a rock the night before and now she doesn't know if it's appropriate to leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:52 AM
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Most of what I've read on there from Hygee, to clothing and hair tips, to makeup, it's fun, it's fine but it's just more consumerism. There's nothing that is geared toward women who are homeless or women who are picking up the pieces of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:50 AM
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put up with something that others might consider a dealbreaker So barring domestic violence, what would be an example of something you would put up with that would be a deal breaker for someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:49 AM
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Up vote. That advice is infinitely better. There is still a matter of if maybe it would have been better not to try and submit to that person to begin with. Or if seeking out a "dominant" person might inadvertently cause someone to seek out a "domineering" person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:47 AM
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And in the event that a dominant masculine man goes gorilla warfare you're going to do what? I'm just trying to get you to see the potential impact of a goal. Worrying about what a dominant masculine man might do eventually is a legitimate concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:46 AM
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I don't know how you got red herring to have a baby with a straw man and a slippery slope but that's one large fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:42 AM
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Right, and no lawyer would dream of holding a reddit website accountable for a promise of a life time marriage. I get that. It's only that considering that RPW already knows some marriages don't last, that it already knows that some abuse can happen, that it feels comfortable with giving advice that would prevent a woman from being able to survive those events.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:41 AM
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Domestic violence isn't that far of an "outlier" topic that it shouldn't be included. The same holds true for men with massive gambling problems, binge drinking, and girlfriends in another town. The reason I bring up poor people is because the advice that the red pill gives is catered toward a certain income bracket and it also doesn't take into consideration hardships that regular people face all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:39 AM
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If you are going to give advice on how to do a thing, you need to plan for the entire thing. Cardiac arrest might be outside the scope of being a flight attendant, but they know about it, and that it can happen, and they make a plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:36 AM
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So you were deliberately excluding poor people? People with problems? Who is the red pill designed to exclude?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:32 AM
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The entire website is on how to become married and marriage is supposed to be until death do us part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:31 AM
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Trying to give people false hope is illogical, and its noninclusive to people who don't have as much money as others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:28 AM
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Must be nice to be in that part of earth where the grass never turns brown and everybody has 9-5, and a home with a picket fence. Worst thing that happens in that world is when the kids catch a cold. We all dream of it, but eventually the alarm clock goes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:23 AM
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Right because the red pill is kind of geared for the assumption that men never, cheat, beat, steal or lie. I wish I lived in that world too, but in my dimension guys do some bad stuff sometimes. Not all of them granted but enough of them to where you don't want to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:17 AM
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Well what the other person was saying is that red pill women is significantly under prepared for catastrophic situations, be that as it may I think it would be a good topic of further examination for the entire sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:15 AM
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"RPW has no prescriptions or requirements about how women handle their relationships when they find themselves with an unfit partner." ^^^ Thank you. This is exactly what I was trying to ascertain and if you don't mind my saying so, probably the first thing that RPW is going to want to address with itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:13 AM
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To ask me what my point is doesn't make sense to me but I'll go over it again. My point is trusting people can lead to problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:12 AM
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The woman I like is an avid fan fiction writer. I don't mind a bit. Do you like her still?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:12 AM
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Yeah it is and at the end of it all Jack Torrence was trying to plant an axe into her and her kid. That type of stuff happens all the time, and people are supposed to try and survive. People usually want to avoid that shit because survival is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:10 AM
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There are too many single moms and there have been for decades. I'm not knocking family, family is fine. If they have kids that's all the more reason they shouldn't lose their voice. The kids are going to need them. Ever watch the Shining? That's just fiction but it's the type of movie that makes me think twice about who I date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:07 AM
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Stacy falls in love with Chad. She gives up all decisions over to him. Chad commits a crime, asks Stacy to help him. What is Stacy's next move?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:05 AM
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So you are saying that in their eyes being single is worse than being a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:03 AM
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Yes it is her business what she is willing to endure, but she owes it to herself to consider what she is giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:02 AM
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I can't examine this phenomenon from pinterest. I could use a good burn book though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:01 AM
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Do you think that being a little unhappy in a relationship is somehow worse than to risk losing everything you ever worked for just to please somebody else. In the end of it how happy do you think a human being is going to be if that human being isn't able to or capable of making their own decisions? If you take an octogenarian and they tell you they don't want to go into a home...part of the reason why is they want to make their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:00 AM
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So in your opinion why does the red pill women advocate an action that is counter intuitive to somebody's best interest, and is it a necessary action in order to secure a spouse? In other words do women have to do what is counter intuitive in order to avoid being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:55 PM
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Correct. So considering this to be a fact, does it seem logical and the most appropriate use of your brain to defer decisions to somebody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:53 PM
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Right but as I was explaining in the case study, your mind is not capable of reading future events.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:53 PM
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I get vetting. It's basically saying to choose wisely. Everyone tries to do that to an extent. Vetting doesn't include being able to read the future either. So to give a case study. Say Shanon landed Chad. They had ten happy years together of bliss, then Chad gets busted trying to sell an eight ball to a cop. Does Shannon leave him, or does she become a prison wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:51 PM
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Right. Logic says not to defer. Emotions say to go for it. What the red pill women's forum advocates is to follow your emotions rather than logic. If they are giving suggestions to try and follow logic before the emotions then that's not how it's coming across. Besides, I've never seen love to work in the way that it follows logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:49 PM
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Logic would dictate that but logic would probably also tell you not to defer in the first place. Unfortunately people get lonely, they want love, they defer and that's how some women wind up in an orange jump suit. This is just life, but what I need to know is if the red pill women has come up with a solution for exactly that type of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:46 PM
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The red pill for women asks for women to defer her decision making capabilities to her captain..correct? There's not a reference different than the red pill women website. (the whole thing) So my question is, once you have deferred your personal empowerment to someone else...and (hopefully they don't but they could) use it to make a bad choice, what are you supposed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:41 PM
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Ok, let me rephrase it... Why are you guys at the red pill acting like you are immune to the same catastrophic stuff that affect the rest of us. The last I checked the red pill had no guarantees to shield anybody from hardship or from somebody else's mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:38 PM
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Never occurred to you that this thread might be beneficial to actual abuse survivors?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:35 PM
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It's a slow day
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:56 PM
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Well if she's still on your mind you can always get in touch with her, only if you wanted to of course. Though just on a personal note, it's never good to date somebody out of pity. That's worse than a no thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:38 PM
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She'll be ok. Call it a hunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:33 PM
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When you first posted about her I could almost see her long dark hair, dark eyes, skinny. That face that you showed me of the guy was pretty similar to who I pictured. She must have really made an impression on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:26 PM
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Yes some of them do, but do all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:17 PM
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That's actually a cool story. It says a lot about your willingness to get past physical appearance and look at character. Not everyone does this. I hope she has the opportunity to understand that this is possible for her, it might go a long way in getting her out of her sadness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:17 PM
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It's good that he was embarrassed there are some assholes that are so far up their own wazoos they believe in their own psuedo-authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:00 PM
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There's nothing more heart warming than realizing you're disposable. (I'm being facetious). I have to agree with you OP, it sucks. What's the point in working toward having an LTR when our love lives look like Sparta and we're thrown to the proverbial lions by Cesar every morning at six am sharp. There are no guarantees in life, but without "some" security or purpose it's not a bright future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:54 PM
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That's harassment. I'm glad you weren't offended by it. I don't blame you for not wanting to put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:48 PM
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That's so pathetic on his part, I'm glad he apologized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:14 PM
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Well that's news to me. It doesn't impact my life on a personal level but it's surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:42 PM
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That's miserable. Good thing it was just middle school
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:40 PM
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That's funny. Do you remember what poem it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:40 PM
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Game is about more than jumping into bed with someone though, if a guy goes out and gets ten phone numbers he's had a good night. Then five of them maybe turn into dates Then three of them second dates. Most people don't expect to do it on the first date or run themselves into the ground with ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:39 PM
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Even if he's also drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:37 PM
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That would be all the more reason for a guy not to want to do himself in of his own accord. He wants to have a mint in his mouth and make sure his deodorant works all that good stuff first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:21 PM
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Wait a second, I may be old but I didn't think I was rip van winkle over here, don't people go out and get drunk together anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:20 PM
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Well if we don't know what it is they keep doing wrong then they'll keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:13 PM
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No, I think you are misundrestanding the situation somewhere. This is mutual consent I'm talking about. Alcohol just happens to be involved. Or not, I mean people pretend to be drunker than they really are for an excuse to couch surf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:12 PM
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Nah, that was asking for a percentage this is asking for embarrassing failure stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:07 PM
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Egad. That's terrible. I don't think there's anything attractive at all about that sort of behavior. Doesn't matter who you are that's just unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:38 PM
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Back in the day (and this was a while ago) both people were usually drunk by the end of the night and it was always better not to drive home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:31 PM
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Wow. That's quite forgiving of you. That's technically assault I think depending on the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:22 PM
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Sure they do lots of stuff, they just have to be subtle about it. Like trying to read your palm, or having an extra drink but their "friend left" so now they have an extra beer, do you want it. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:15 PM
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Yeah if somebody talks about their other sex encounters that they had with someone else, or is lewd in general it's just bad etiquette. You can crack a dirty joke, but bad move making yourself the punch line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:14 PM
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How odd that they picked your shoes as the big topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:13 PM
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Maybe the rules have changed. I got a twenty year relationship out of the drunk couch scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:12 PM
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That is pretty bold, but funny :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:46 PM
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I'm sure it still works that stuff is timeless. It's also a riot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 02:43 PM
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Back in the day we just called all this shit "Partying"..it was a blast. re: Beer and food... Bring the beer and food for somebody else to enjoy, but if you are looking to get laid you don't want food or beer breath. Re: Falling.. Yes you genuinely fall, just a little bit, don't spill your drink on them, or put all of your weight into them. Just fall enough to need an arm or a shoulder to steady you. It works like a charm. You won't hurt yourself because your balance is still on one foot. You lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 02:39 PM
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That was in a time that seems like another life ago, but yes it works quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 02:31 PM
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There are some crazy things women do to pick up somebody. So I'll tell you a few trade secrets. Find out a potential mate's celebrity crush..then get a similar hair cut or some similar clothing Find out what perfume they like on other people and make sure you have some. -Bring beer but don't drink any/bring food but don't eat any -Make sure you have lip gloss and some kind of lolly pop or fruit or something or a straw to chew on. -Drop a couple things on the floor and pick them up slowly (this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 02:14 PM
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If I'm spending $200 for a couple hours of your time I better leave with a flu shot and a prescription.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:09 AM
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrC5rK2YRFaRQsA7pMsnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY5MgRfcgMyBGFjdG4DY2xrBGJjawNmMDR0aDE5ZDA2b2U0JTI2YiUzRDMlMjZzJTNEbnAEY3NyY3B2aWQDeFgxQmxqRXdMakh3RTdFS1dnTmh4QWg1TmpjdU9BQUFBQUM1UDNiMwRmcgN5aHMtbW96aWxsYS0xMDkEZnIyA3NhLWdwBGdwcmlkA0lQaWx6UnpqUXRTYTkxTkxJYVNSOUEEbXRlc3RpZANudWxsBG5fcnNsdAM2MARuX3N1Z2cDNARvcmlnaW4DdmlkZW8uc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMQRwcXN0cgNob3cgdG8gcmVwbGFjZSB0aGUgc3Bvb2wgBHBxc3RybAMyNQRxc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:57 AM
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I'll give you an lol on that one. Well I think humanism will probably replace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:55 PM
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Are you able to elaborate as to why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:05 PM
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I don't now much about Germany but it may have some other things about the country that are good that are a trade off. The US has some nasty legal, financial and health care problems so even though things look good on the surface there's still some problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:57 PM
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Yes that was a registered nurse's salary. Germany is much lower than it would be in the US. An after tax income of $25k per year is appropriate for customer service or mechanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:45 PM
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He's young, he should just quit drinking take out a fat student loan, camp on the frat house of NYU and in ten years become a part of SCOTUS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:12 PM
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Those numbers look mind bogglingly low. An lower end salary in the US is around $28,000 / year. This is giving yearly salaries in the teens. That's not enough to live on for most people. $10k or $19k per year?!? In the state of Kentucky US an RN (2-4year degree) just as an example makes about $68k
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:04 PM
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What kept him from getting his own apartment/trailer/job that's the cause .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:01 PM
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If real life has taught me anything being homeless is what gives you a drinking problem, not the other way around. I know HR managers who blow thousands on coke and have four bedroom quarter million dollar homes. They do lines and then later put their suit and tie on like nothing ever happened. There are also plenty of broke and homeless people who've never even smoked a bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:58 PM
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Ha! Thanks. I guess my ex went to a worthy cause. It's really not a choice exactly we've all of us been "close" at some point to being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:15 PM
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I already have a former resident of one who is living in my house and banging my ex, I think I've given enough to help those less fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:08 PM
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Why not? Would you rather your lovers be short, fat, and/or hairy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 02:02 PM
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That's a photo of actor Rupaul performing on stage. Rupaul is biologically male and performs as a female in most movies. https://www.vogue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/02/holding-rupaul-interview.jpg She's also one of the most beautiful women on earth. This was included to answer the question about how much of gender is a performance. As another example here is actor Rupaul playing both Barack and Michelle Obama http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/12/16/15/59fe5106ecc154cea787e978b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:35 PM
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It depends. I've seen everything from $350/month up to $3500 a month in the US. It really depends that widely here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:21 PM
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"All the world is a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages" -William Shakespeare http://images3.cinema.de/imedia/4510/1814510,e037NFsh+Krq06U7tnE3LMvUmnWzIKMK6lhhB+S0g9uMHY6n9UFdx_F1sfhwcUnP_6c6uuIOt37+Um3E6fWHFg==.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:19 PM
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$700 USD/month is on the cheaper end I think. In the US depending on location it could be either a 1-2 bedroom apartment, a studio apartment or a small house. In QLD my friend purchased a house for that per month where in the US a comparable house would have only been around $550usd/month. Wages in the US though are much lower than anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:13 PM
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So basically the ppd debate on line is the only place it's really "safe" to get it all out. I can relate to that on some levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:24 PM
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Australia, yeah. I had a good friend in QLD but they found some places for $700/mo per house which isn't too bad. Any of the major Cities like London or Sydney or New York all that is going to be rich investors only. Now if you are in Oz then Brisbane isn't too bad price wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:23 PM
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I'd imagine London would be one of the most expensive places to live. Moving to a smaller town would be wonderful especially if you had work. This website https://www.facebook.com/Nottstalgia Connects a lot of people from Nottingham, they may have jobs/houses for sale ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:13 AM
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I've never been it looks beautiful in pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:02 AM
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If it's not affecting them in the workplace then there's probably not much to debate. My question was mainly what you assume to be true about them, is it still as true in real life or was it just a faulty assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:56 AM
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Yes you are. I'm American. My friends are from Nottingham. Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:54 AM
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No. I'm a wanna be. I know a few IRL. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:52 AM
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Is it still true in real life, at work, ect? Or is it just hype you picked up on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:31 AM
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keep your mouth shut and learn to play the game and we'll be glad to have you on the team. we will hold you up as an example to prove how much we care about diversity and all that bullshit. but we won't ever let you have any real power. ^ Sounds about right. This is often why the SJW march along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:26 AM
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Almost everybody loves drinking and drugs. Except those who are religious or can't because of preexisting health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:25 AM
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Right on. You don't have to apologize to me. I'm not over here handing him money, I don't have it to hand to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:24 AM
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Why not, he needs help as much as anybody. He's a human being, if he's had to hook he's had to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:23 AM
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Rather than the truth, that these men are homeless because of economics and oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:22 AM
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If you guys in this room are going to start caring about men's rights, he'd be a good place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:20 AM
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Do you believe in supporting caste systems?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:19 AM
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https://www.ranker.com/list/history_s-most-under-appreciated-female-inventors/brooke-wilson https://www.one.org/us/2015/05/27/10-female-inventors-you-should-know-about/ https://www.thoughtco.com/famous-female-architects-177890
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:19 AM
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What exactly do you mean by "you" in your sentence here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:56 AM
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It's a pretty bold statement to refer to an individual as a "type", especially when it's somebody you've never been introduced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:55 AM
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We don't know the whole story but very few people are homeless by choice. Most people also don't want to risk their health on 150 partners per year just to get a place to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:48 AM
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So he's a prostitute, it's not new, he didn't invent the trade. Sad that nobody is helping him out of his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:31 AM
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I should invite you to the conversation we're having on another thread about a little over a hundred years ago when women didn't own property, vote or have access to education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:22 AM
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If women have no autonomy, no right to vote, no right to own property they won't have any other option but to leach off of men. I think the red pill needs to consider that these developments have only been in the last century most of them. There are thousands of years before that where men were the oppressors so what choice did women have but to rebel. If men and women are equals then men and women can communicate as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 01:21 AM
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So why would you blame feminism for this? In the days of "olde" women were little more than kids for their entire life. Men had to be disposable and accountable for evertyhing because women couldn't. The ability to function had been taken away from them. It's only now that women can function in equal or more equal capacities in society that men actually CAN relax enough to consider their own rights. It's women's empowerment that is allowing men to be able to function without women clinging to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:59 AM
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The first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of religion, and the best way to do that is to avoid pushing one's religion on to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:50 AM
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Not all women are saints, just like not all guys are bad but I can't say that I agree with TRP approach. It seems to celebrate animosity and like the other poster said they do it to get attention. Negative attention in their eyes is better than no attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:45 AM
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Upvote. Nobody ever gets a better society if you start by dragging other people down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:43 AM
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I haven't seen anything in feminism that offends me to the extent that it offends you but I'm still here with open ears
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:42 AM
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unearned influence over me ^ That's my concern as well un earned influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:42 AM
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Right so as somebody who is going to have to be potentially interviewed for a job or buying real estate from one of those 235,000 people, don't you think that I ought to be concerned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 12:40 AM
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So then that leaves the question to what extent does the red pill intend to push its values onto the rest of us. When is the red pill going to look at those of us who opted out as we opted out, not that we couldn't "measure up" but that we didn't want to be stuck in a male and female stereotype that didn't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:32 PM
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What you are telling me is that blue pill is winning and what I'm telling you is some of the reasons why that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:26 PM
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I don't know how to make this any more clear. Not everybody will fit the mold of Chad or Stacy and not everyone wants to be either of those things. I am someone who wouldn't be attracted to either Chad or Stacy and I'm not a Chad or Stacy in real life and I don't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:25 PM
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Gender overlap has to exist. It exist in nature and all around us. There is no room for it in the red pill. If the blue pill found room for overlap it's because it's paying attention. If feminism made room, it's because feminism is paying attention. No one would be able to push overlap where it doesn't exist, but red pill is hard core binary. Red pill does not allow for ambiguity in anything, the roles in red pill are binary and rigid in a way that doesn't even accommodate real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:16 PM
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I'm kind of with you on this. We know men and women are different. Those of us who overlap (to some degree or another) don't know where we fit into all this. We are blue by default because red thrives on binary it thrives on division. If blue is misandrist I need to see some evidence of blue being misandrist. Gender overlap is really not BP, it's not feminist, it's older and deeper and more complicated than any of those paradigms. Gender overlap is a product of nature it's not invented by societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:49 PM
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https://alltogether.swe.org/ https://www.awis.org/ Good luck. I hope you find her. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:40 PM
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Unless you are into midnight underwater taxidermy or some really crazy thing there's got to be somebody out there who shares your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:24 PM
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Why not find a girl who shares your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:11 PM
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I'm reading it, I'm just not agreeing with it all. I know the stages of anger, but when people get angry with something they don't blame an entire population for it. I've had my love life suck but that's the fault of those specific people, not the fault of all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:41 PM
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If your partner was abusive I'm surprised it worked. Abusive partners tend to want their way or the highway. They make you chose, I know this because I've seen a lot of highways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:23 PM
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on. some of the cartoonish misogyny is just a defensive mechanism to keep women out ^ No it doesn't keep women out, it makes pissed off women want to kick the door in and commence to shouting. If GTFO is what you are after the red pill is the furthest thing from a gray rock that there is. You have no idea how the other half lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:20 PM
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But you assume that the hate contained within the red pill is appropriate and accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:18 PM
1

??!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:18 PM
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Your lucky is what you are, that could have backfired.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:17 PM
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Thank you for being the ppd exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:46 PM
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Your stats are off, it's higher in favor of males being the psyhchopaths/sociopaths over women. Hypergamy though I do think that's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:43 PM
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That's not the conclusion I'd draw form inside the PPD walls, maybe different parts of life have a different answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:50 PM
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Well I would say that's on them, but you still have to be accountable to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:38 PM
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Ok, will check it out in depth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:16 PM
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Don't believe it. The opinion of a few morons on reddit don't speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:03 PM
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make these comments as a female who understands and supports everyone, ^ Understands and supports everyone? Didn't you just "call bullshit" on the paragraph directly above you? I call bullshit on your bullshit there worth 2.5packs of cigarettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:02 PM
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FashionNugget is a troll, can confirm from past posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:56 PM
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I'll look at the thread to make a judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:52 PM
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What does it mean to 'call bullshit" exactly? If you think I"m lying then how do I prove to a stranger on the internet what my life is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:52 PM
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I think that's a second debate but I haven't' seen any detrimental blue pill advice yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:50 PM
1

Do you have some examples of what falsehoods you've experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:49 PM
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That makes it sound like they are all victims of human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:48 PM
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So you get rewarded for negative action?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:18 PM
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That would be a good topic for a different thread, what the deal is with the anti-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:15 PM
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No way. Because no woman wants to loose in a fight with her thug husband or get out done by him in a business deal. She'd be better off with a guy who won't put her through the wringer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:14 PM
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That's a logical flaw. It's like thinking that because cops show up to a crime scene that cops caused the crime scene. If the "doormat" isn't getting laid, it's for a reason other than him being a doormat. Assholes get left for being assholes, even the nice looking ones. It may take a little longer but people only put up with so much crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:12 PM
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The world doesn't have much give. You can do next to nothing wrong and if you don't have enough money the rest of earth will gang up on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:04 PM
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Bad behavior is a luxury, one that I've never had the option of being able to afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:57 PM
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Nice (too much altruism) isn’t attractive simply because it isn’t a particularly useful survival trait. ^ Nice keeps a bloke from stomping the shit out of you, far as I'm concerned it's the most useful and desirable trait imaginable. Nice will guarantee you a fair deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:54 PM
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I don't know that I believe women don't like "nice" guys I think that's some rhetoric someone would fling at lonely people in order to sell books.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:41 PM
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How many times though does a person use the excuse of an "anger phase" to garner sympathy and tolerance for otherwise inexcusable anger issues? Lots of people have financial woes and romantic butt hurt, but they don't all become angry and rage filled over it. At some point you have to take personal responsibility for your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:39 PM
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You understand this, yes, but do you believe everyone else understands this including the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:53 PM
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That is a bull shit way to look at the world, but I love your honesty. Most people don't admit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:53 PM
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The whole phrase "why did you fail" doesn't seem like glaringly obvious finger pointing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:48 PM
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How does it read to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:27 PM
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Nobody wants to be married to or having sex with someone who they don't find attractive. That's all that needs to be said about it, that's universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:52 AM
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See above logical fallacy of "awalt" due to the use of 'all".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:24 AM
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Anything with "all" "any" and "Never" can't be confirmed. It's just lazy debating style that's why it's bothersome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:23 AM
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Still he threw in the awalt card, that ought to be a logical fallacy on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:49 AM
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Oh of course Even if he left her, it's still her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:45 AM
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I'm sure. There's a seven year itch and after twenty years usually comes the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:36 AM
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It could also be his back hair, bad breath or the last argument they had one just never knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:07 AM
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Do you look for a logical fallacy in every punch line or just this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 12:42 AM
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It's an example of what could fit within the parameters of his question. One of many scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 12:32 AM
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Sure a recent surgery, death of a relative, explosive diarrhea was all a giant conspiracy to knock her poor husband out of the ball park.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 12:14 AM
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I think I modified that but I'll stand by it. If the woman has a spouse who is drunk, or abusive or adulterous then to be forced to survive that and then asked how she failed the marriage. That's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 12:08 AM
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"Women whose relationship has ever encountered conflict or been less than ideal, why did you fail to make this relationship ideal for you partner?" ^ This question literally reads as though you believe it's impossible, not even just improbably but impossible for a man to have been the cause of a relationship failure. This reads as though you don't even believe both parties could have been the cause of a relationship failure..... Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 12:05 AM
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Regards see you if you come back
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:03 PM
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Ok, how bout this...master list of logical fallacies. It can help even if you aren't on reddit anymore. http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:00 PM
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Last I checked pacman.com had some good video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 12:49 PM
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I didn't see a rule against mild humor, particularly if it contains a point pertaining to the original post content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 12:31 PM
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So you posted somebody else's logical fallacy...on purpose...to check to see if the readers would be more politically correct than the last time you posted somebody else's logical fallacy? Really? And you are mad at me for cracking a joke about your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 12:25 PM
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You've invented a disorder, and invented it's parameters and are trying to fit your invention over the top of real life. If you are going to keep using circular reasoning like you have, then you won't have a point in debating with anyone. You have supported your own position with its premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 12:14 PM
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You think pointing out a logical fallacy is childish? It's a crucial part of debate. As the OP your logical fallacy is strawman. Now your logical fallacy is ad hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 11:41 AM
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Nice fictional character you're building there. Since we are writing fiction let me give you a few more to add to the pile. She shoots laser beams out of her eyes when she takes a crap She's a witch who flew through my window and bit my shoes She dried up the cattle There now you can put a blonde wig and a bra on that pile of straw and light it at burning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 11:23 AM
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Wise words, and it is true about bad leadership. So many people have suffered from accepting leadership when it wasn't warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:36 AM
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Took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to say this reminds me so much of my last relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:36 AM
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I never heard that before but that's good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:21 PM
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It's a wise move to dig a little deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 07:21 PM
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Outside opinions in this type of situation are the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 07:05 PM
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Do you think there is enough "give" in the subjectivity of both the definition of "creepy" and the definition of "attractive" to make the topic not debatable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:33 PM
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I guess in some ways a persons' belief does indicate the direction they will take. But what would you say if their belief is wrong. How can anyone know if a belief is wrong or right except to test it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:30 PM
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So IMHO the subjectivity of it makes it in some ways a weird thing to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:24 PM
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Sure. To what extent I don't know but they have more influence than say being in a book club or part of Columbia record house.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:23 PM
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Do you think the people who identify as "blue pill" have a different world view than the people who identify as "red pill"? They seem to have a different view of conflict and conflict resolution. They have a different view of sexual strategy and stereotypes. I can see where alpha/beta would only confuse things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:22 PM
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The backfire effect is awesome. I'm sure that happens on here more often than we think about. I love that you wrote about people basing their beliefs off of what they need to believe rather than what is true. That's the clean truth. Now as far as if changing a person's beliefs will help them be happier or more productive I'm highly skeptical about that. I have a tremendous faith in an external locus of control. Meaning I think our lives are a byproduct of what others are willing to hand us to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:20 PM
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I'm one of those persons who can't do wrong in their own eyes..I say that facetiously but I can understand it from a point where I don't see it as disrespect. Probably most people who answer that way understand the perils of bad leadership, therefore they'd chose their own leadership over someone else's. Sometimes no matter what. Someone who answers more that they'd be willing to compromise means that person still has some faith in the people that are around them. They probably have had more goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:12 PM
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Maybe it does. That would be worth studying. Is alpha red and beta blue, is there over lap? Is it accurate? The red team had a definite preference for their own leadership (and I'm the same way) but I'm not specifically red. The blue team tends to be more worried about conflict and more willing to compromise. They will analyze a conflict more than the reds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:10 PM
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I guess there could be some overlap in her sleeping with them for reasons that have nothing to do with attraction. Do you believe that "creepy" can be a little bit subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:08 PM
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I disagree simply because a woman can be very attracted (and women have been very attracted) to some very creepy dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:04 PM
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Sounds like you have put a lot of thought into ways to try and resolve that conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:03 PM
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I'm the opposite, probably more "red" in my leanings. I know where I'm going and I have a plan and it's full steam ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:58 PM
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That's true. There are some people who have a definite internal approach to criticism that goes with them almost universally regardless of circumstances. It's not everyone though. For example, people in leadership tend to do what they do because they have a plan so outside interference is exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:54 PM
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Yes it is vague I'm looking for more of an over all reaction to conflict rather than specific details about anyone's personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:51 PM
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Good faith goes a long way towards conflict resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:18 PM
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I don't need your permission in order to express my thoughts as I see fit so long as the content meets the established criteria. Explain why you are singling out me THIS POST out for personal attacks and sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:16 PM
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As should you, your feedback doesn't mean that I need to make a modification to the post content.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:14 PM
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If you run it by a mod and if they feel it should be modified I would be willing to fix it. You are not in a position of authority to be asking others to fix their posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:12 PM
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It sounds like you haven't made up your own mind if you are interested in participating in it or not. Your statement of interest now conflicts with your earlier statement of disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:11 PM
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This has as much detail as every other question posted in the forum and follows the regulations per the side bar. Is there a reason you are singling out this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:07 PM
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There are other people who may be interested in learning how the opposite world view sees conflict. You may not be interested but there are others in the thread who would be interested. How conflict is handled affects a lot of dating strategy, marital relations and every other aspect of a person's social dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:59 PM
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It might be different for the blues, that's what I'm trying to find out. The whole sexual dynamic is based on world view and outlook. Not only will it give us insight into the world view of the different sides, but more importantly it can tell us how useful debating it is in general. Once the blue pill has their segment and answers you'll be able to compare and contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:56 PM
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I'll make a blue team discussion similar in a separate thread. This will divide it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:53 PM
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So what would you suggest with a moral objection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:21 PM
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I meant more in general, like the hippie or a friend who disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:06 PM
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Either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:05 PM
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This is just in general. Do you feel accountable to the view points of others? If you only do occasionally that's valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:43 PM
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Someone is hypothetical, fucks given optional, you answered the question already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:42 PM
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I'm pretty much the same way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:41 PM
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Lol. Yeah that's one way to get the point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:40 PM
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Do you mean you spend time instead, with someone who isn't accusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:35 PM
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Think about the "elite", the big things like the Skull and Bones clubs, or the Masons or the Bildeberg group the Koch brothers ect. Woman aren't the only ones who notice these groups, they aren't imaginary, they exist. It's not just feminists and conspiracy theorists who know they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:53 PM
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There are a lot of people who seem crazy until you've been where they have been. Most of them aren't "insane" just selfish and looking out for their own best interests. "Mental illness is a myth, whose function is to disguise and thus render more palatable the bitter pill of moral conflicts in human relations" - Thomas Szaz.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:48 AM
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"Mental illness is a myth, whose function is to disguise and thus render more palatable the bitter pill of moral conflicts in human relations" - Thomas Szaz ::::::::::Do you prefer a psychiatry (below) answer or an anti psychiatry (above) answer:::::: "People who live in glass houses sholdn't throw stones" - an old proverb
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:29 AM
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You may not have been through this. I know a couple of people (and I've been one in the past) where if you leave a guy you get minimum some cold glares, angry phone calls, mind games. I know of some people who have gotten threats from their ex's friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:25 AM
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None of them today. Blissfully. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:24 AM
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Yes, I confess I barely grazed it. I did read in there about the word "regret" as it implied to ONS. Overall I can't say I think much of the APA. http://www.szasz.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:23 AM
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So then it looks like you are agreeing with me, in part that psychiatry is a religion or at least an ancient Greek religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:21 AM
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Yes there is a myth of Narcissus, that's where psychiatry coined it's phrases from. They used a lot of mythology when coming up with the DSM series. Free thinker is just another philosophical term
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:15 AM
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I know how bad my friend had it when it was her turn in the barrel. That's why I wouldn't put myself in the same situation. I'm hoping you have better taste in friends than her ex husband did. Either way your friends on a personal level aren't my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:13 AM
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It's a good way to trick a lot of people, calling it medicine. "Narcissistic" is just another psychiatric ad hominem. "Free thinker" is just another philosophical state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:11 AM
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Offended by what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:08 AM
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That would be misusing the word "creep". The overlap might be coming in if he's invasive in some way while trying to make his intentions known. Tact goes a long way with not being a creepy, no matter how you look people appreciate tact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:06 AM
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Maybe. Different circumstances for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:04 AM
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What's your point that people 22-30 are not looking to get married? Do you have any stats, or stats by culture to back it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:01 AM
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All of that is constructed by society. The problem with psychology and psychiatry is they try and medicalize this social sciences which is just an extension of philosophy. Philosophy can't be in the same league as physics. It's a long debate though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:00 AM
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Granted there are some people who can't see "evil" coming therefore it blindsides them, but I promise you there are some nice looking creepy folks out there. Young Manson looked like Jim Morrison but he's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:56 AM
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That's your wife. If she was your ex wife then they could glare at her. My best friend went through this with all of her ex husband's friends when they got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:51 AM
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Nobody ever called Ted Bundy creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:50 AM
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I was thinking more like physics vs law. You can prove mass, width, height, weight. Something being a "delusion" or "personality disorder" is just a description of how a given society is handling an event at the time. Social sciences being different from hard sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:48 AM
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I'm not dating you but I wouldn't date somebody who had "goons" as you describe it because if we got into a fight and I pissed him off then I'd have to answer to all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:47 AM
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Chad is a fictional character and you invent his parameters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:45 AM
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Can a scientific truth be changed by social opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:42 AM
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You love being what, the intimidating guy with six angry bro's at your disposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:39 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhsxzaGTmo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:39 AM
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I have managed to educate myself enough to know that the DSM was invented as a tool by the powerful to suppress and oppress the powerless. Use whatever ad-hominem you'd like, then Thomas Szaz and I can tell you where you've gone wrong. What I think you really mean to say is you find the truth too ugly because it could stop people from getting what they want when they want it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:35 PM
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Having had sex in no way means that they aren't looking to get married. If they weren't getting married then why is the divorce rate so high? Divorce is a direct byproduct of marriage. MGTWO and WGTOW are a very small percentage of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:51 PM
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That's just one part of the US culture. There are other cultures too besides just Islamic and American. I really don't think you can speak for all people to say that people 22-30 aren't looking to get married. Even if we narrowed it down to Americans 22-30 you'd probably still see a lot of people who if they weren't marrying were looking for an LTR. I'm also pretty sure that multiple other cultures do think promiscuity is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:40 PM
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st people wait before their exclusive to have sex? ^^^ Bingo. This literally is the only way to have any guarantees. Maybe most people don't wait until they are exclusive but most people also don't floss. I'm also from the US and I know for a fact that promiscuity is a reason other cultures do laugh at us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:21 PM
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Ok, I can see your point there, but people can put on a front too. Most sociopaths are very charming at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:02 PM
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Creepiest guys to me are the ones with a half dozen angry friends, and nothing to lose. He might be cute, nice and charming, but one wrong move and there's a half dozen angry friends to worry about. All you can do is walk away and don't ask any questions because you probably don't want the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 09:53 PM
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Why is it that no red pill person seems to understand it is entirely possible to be a nice looking creep? Death row is filled with nice looking but creepy guys. Creepy means your survival instinct is being messed with and it's not a good thing. A creep means literally that the hair is standing up on the back of your neck and not in a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 09:05 PM
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If they are chosen they feel special. If they are an ONS or a plate they haven't been chosen, they are just one of the many options. It would be the antithesis of "special".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:54 PM
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Think of a Jos A Bank commercial. The point is confidence and power, to be able to exude those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:54 PM
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The premise is in the initial question of this thread. Discussion for all: "Would you allow yourself to become an ONS or a plate" So if its a male or female it would be asking IF they would want to commit. If they make a choice to prioritize someone who would only see them as an option it's their right to do so, but they will end up at a loss to some extent because of the resulting imbalance of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:41 PM
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It's a power impbalance. I didn't design it, I'm just not afraid to call it what it is. It doesn't matter who is the boy and who is the girl or if it is a gay couple. If "A" wants to commit and "B" just wants a good time, A loses hands down. There have been songs about this kind of thing. There used to be a band called "Wham" they had a song called "Freedom". "I don't want your Freedom I don't want to play around. I don't want your party baby, part time love just brings me down" - George Michael…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:18 PM
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He looks professional, focused, trustworthy. People love to listen to Tony Robbins and he makes people feel better...sometimes for absolutely no reason. Tony Robbins knows how to work a crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:33 PM
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The just world fallacy is so intense in this post. ^ It's not a just world fallacy, it's called self respect. You never want to make a priority of somebody if all you are to them is an option. It's also better to be alone than in bad company..there's nothing fallacious about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:27 PM
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Some of them might be gay and some are not, and that's not the point, they are professional models who know what it takes to make a suit look good. They get paid millions to walk in a suit, so they know what they are doing. If you don't like video that try Tony Robbins, he knows how to work a room. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrDQ2rqCQtar3wAXSEsnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY5MgRfcgMyBGFjdG4DY2xrBGJjawNmMDR0aDE5ZDA2b2U0JTI2YiUzRDMlMjZzJ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:22 PM
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Some divorces are so bad that people misuse the word "rape" and it happens. One spouse gets the entire house, or assets are not divided up fairly. It depends on who has the better lawyer. Maybe we all need a better word for it but it happens and its brutal. Sometimes women get hosed in a divorce situation (believe it or not) but inequitable distribution can be devastating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:40 PM
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvnk_ApaFlIAVU4nnIlQ?p=male+model+on+runway&fr=yhs-mozilla-109&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-109#id=4&vid=c3cd2041bc7bac626b28525f51d904fe&action=view .................................................. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrDQynm_ApahDMAmRksnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY5MgRfcgMyBGFjdG4DY2xrBGJjawNmMDR0aDE5ZDA2b2U0JTI2YiUzRDMlMjZzJTNEbnAEY3NyY3B2aWQDT0dFd29qRXdMakh3RTdFS…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:27 PM
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Society has some deep and ridged gender roles that wont change in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:09 PM
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Unfortunately judging someone by gender is as old as the earth's crust. One thing I learned from HR is buzzwords like, "Spouse", "Partner", "sibling", and how to phrase a sentence to avoid pronouns. This usually helps to avoid pre-conceived notions about gender and allows for people to be able to open up a little bit more. The same issues happen to both genders its just how it is expressed and how society treats the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:49 AM
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Insofar as "didn't want it", it's not like I'm sitting here claiming buyers remorse, it's just that I'd had falsely high expectations. I liked the person more than the person liked me. I'd be welcome as an ONS but not as a relationship, welcome as an FWP but not a relationship. It happens, and there's no good reason for me to make a big deal of it, except it gets old when you have the bar set high and nobody wants to reach that far. Yes there are also no shortage of people who I don't personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:55 PM
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ONS/FWP - combo. It didn't take much for me to get fed up. (I've had more ONS offers than I've accepted)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:08 PM
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Who says I was hooking up on the first night? That's happened only on very rare occasions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:59 PM
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Well the saints were probably cool. I was thinking though of St. Fonzerelli of Happy Days
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:55 PM
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I see your point. Just because the guy strays doesn't mean it's personal. It's just I was thinking more of situations where one person is more invested than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:27 PM
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The word "alpha" throws people off because it could mean a con artist or a CEO. It's relative to who they are describing. But I know what you mean because the sociopath archetype was the first thing that came to mind when I read some of the red pill. There's an overlap I"m sure. A person who is an alpha may also be a sociopath, but the two don't necessarily have to interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:56 PM
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Good for you. Unfortunately I've set rules like those only to have them "bent" on occasion by the other party. :-(!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:49 PM
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I would wonder why I wasn't enough for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:08 PM
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That's underhanded though, somebody should be able to consent to what the truth is in any situation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:56 PM
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Deserve is a subjective word. You get what people want to give you, and the only way to change their offering price is to better meet their wants and desires. ^ Only if you are willing to spend time with those people. I agree with you about the former, whole heatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:50 PM
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Maybe so, depending on the guy. I know there are also some men who wouldn't want anything to do with that situation and would call her some pretty unkind names.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:45 PM
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Yep. That's what I mean it's like being in a game. I think the ONS happens though when you realize fairly quickly no relationship is going to come of it. That's when there's something awry but maybe you jumped the gun. It happens though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:44 PM
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That would be a good series of posts I'd like to read. The hoops people had to jump through in order to make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:42 PM
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Its too fine of a line. It's just cheating with permission. I know some people are ok with it but eventually somebody is going to ask themselves why they are not number one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:37 PM
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I think there are players on either side but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:36 PM
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Maybe it's individual. I was feeling like if I'm such a good friend, so and so wouldn't be trying to play me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:32 PM
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Why would it be weird for a woman to use you for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:26 PM
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If somebody wanted to avoid ONS or being a plate the only way is to avoid sleeping with somebody atleast until they knew for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:24 PM
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. Not everyone wants a relationship all the time. This, yes I see your point. It's a tough call though because there's always the "why didn't they call me back" pain. I know some people are ok with it, and I wouldn't say they don't have the right to have ONS, I guess I"M just giving some good reasons why an ONS suck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:46 PM
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I'm sure. Why would you think otherwise? You don't think men have ONS? Or that women have "plates"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:24 PM
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That's some gymnastics but I"m glad it worked out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:02 PM
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ONS I agree is better, it can get kicked under the rug and forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:01 PM
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Good for you, that saves you some serious pain later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:00 PM
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No this isn't an assumption. It has to be a contemptuous thing to some degree, however small because ultimately, male or female the person issuing an ONS is saying to the other party "You are not good enough to be my relationship" This is in no way specific to me. It's like saying to someone, "I'll let you buy me lunch...but that doesn't make us friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:59 PM
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If you can do it more power to you. "Meet local singles, chat on line only $2.99 per minute" Won't take long for that new car
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:47 PM
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Cant argue that, it seems that way. I wonder if red pill is right about hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:46 PM
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You don't think men dead bedroom and dump women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:42 PM
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Like a dating service? You could do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:39 PM
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Oh I'm sure it's out there in abundance, it's just a matter of finding the app for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:36 PM
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No its a question for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:35 PM
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You think that's love? Nah. That's a crush. Love lasts for decades, love gets you out of bed at 3 am because your lover's car broke down, love makes you pay for their health insurance. Love destroys women, and men..but it's really the only good thing there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:33 PM
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Yeah I could see that with an ONS, you pretty much know but to keep on seeing the same FWB multiple times and have NO feelings for them? Come on. I guess you can hold on loosely but when they say, "Hey buddy old pal, meet my soon to be spouse...you want a beer?" It's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:31 PM
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That is sad. There's honestly nothing better than love, hands down, anywhere. I'd wish it for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:18 PM
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I just checked the CDC website and yes some people do have body lice. But you are right there are other things to worry about besides just that. Glad you are careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:07 PM
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"Ill fated promises" reminds me of an old song. It's so true there's even a song about it. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVi8LtAlaT4sAJnMnnIlQ?p=Paradise+by+the+dash+board+light&fr=yhs-mozilla-109&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-109#id=1&vid=515c3f7bbf71f727d9a1e5d6cb9db628&action=view Paradise by the dash board light by Meatloaf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:03 PM
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I would enjoy that "if" I wasn't sleeping with any of them. Not to be downer but how fast do you think crabs would travel through a mathematically exponential situation. 1 person x 5 people x each of their 5 people x each of their 5 people infinitely. Pretty soon earth has all slept together indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:56 PM
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What if you were running for office? Any job where your reputation is on the line it would matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:54 PM
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Right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:54 PM
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Oh. I would have had no way of knowing that until you told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:53 PM
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I'm the same way but in reverse. I get depressed because the emotional connection is absent in both cases, but with an ONS I can at least put the past behind me. With FWB the same wound keeps getting opened up over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:53 PM
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Exactly it's not a compliment usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:10 PM
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When someone does porn they lose the ability to say they've never been in porn. They lose a certain amount of privacy, and because it is recorded the moment never ends like an ONS is over when the sun comes up, porn is there indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:09 PM
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I'm sorry I'm not following you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:08 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:08 PM
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Contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:52 PM
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ONS I'm less keen on, they make me feel depressed after. ^ Yeah they are kind of weird later but at least you never have to see the person again. So the weird goes away when they do. FWB (or a plate) for me that's worse. It's like you can be a decent friend, or you can be a decent lover but you can't be both. I was an FWP recently until my FWP found a lifetime love. How do you tell your BFF that you hate their lover, especially after you were one(?) of them. Horrible. Wouldn't have known it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:51 PM
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It is a state of mind. Some people would find singing degrading and wouldn't want to do it in public. Other people will get up on stage and make themselves into a figure of adoration. It's probably less likely that porn will lead to admiration, but I suppose it's possible. There are certain intangible qualities that you can't get back though once you've lost them. Bells that you can't "un-ring" if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:45 PM
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How is plate worse? Aren't they interchangeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:41 PM
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I hear you, it is flattering. Especially when the person is really attractive. Sometimes I agree it is reason enough. It's just a pisser the next day when they are there with a different person. I"ve had experiences where I'm vacillating between the hotness factor of "Wow Really? Me!?" to the misery of being kicked back to the underling's table realizing I wasn't invited to the board room to be an executive I was just there to serve the beverages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:37 PM
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I think you have rose colored glasses on about how people are when they watch porn. You have everything from locker room jocks going, "Yeah look at that dog in heat" to people laughing at you to actual sickos and I won't go there on how they think. Most of the time your performance would go on as unnoticed background noise at somebody's at home "rave". Your bits and pieces would be competing with a lava lamp for the attention of a grad student on acid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:24 PM
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That's interesting to see from a man's perspective. I think people can get burned out on the ONS. It's novel for a while to say that you did, but then the risk is rarely as good as the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:22 PM
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They perform their most personal moments for you, they perform like a trained seal and people pay for the privilege of watching them do it. It turns some aspect of sex into a dollar value commodity. It's not illegal it's just depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:09 PM
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Absolutely, the most offensive thing in the world is trying to make a priority of someone who only thinks of you as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:07 PM
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No as in you wouldn't allow yourself to become a plate, or no as in you disagree with the assertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:07 PM
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What you have to remember about porn is the people who are in porn consented to be there. That's the buzzword..consent, consent, consent. It can't be compared to another process like involuntary psychiatry or human trafficking where human beings are literally taken from their normal life and forced into situations they wouldn't otherwise be in. It may objectify both women and men, but if a person consents to be objectified then they do have that right. It does treat humans as objects to be bough…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:42 PM
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Cool people aren't mean, they aren't anxious, they aren't embarrassed, they aren't awkward, they aren't shy and they never have bad intentions and they are always self reliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:25 AM
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I"m a little concerned this explanation may validate the concept of hyper-gamy but you can't just date down. Here's why. It's easier to improve yourself to become more attractive, than it is it make yourself be attracted to someone who isn't hot to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:04 AM
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Good advice. If it helps anyone I found a mouth piece realtor can do a lot of things cheaper than a lawyer and just as effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:53 PM
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You sir are my hero today, that's kind of my point with that question about the existence of a soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:51 PM
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The electoral vote defeats the purpose of me voting so I don't do it. Or rather occasionally I do vote but not with any regular or measurable frequency and if I vote I do it just to say that I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:48 PM
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In some cases for some it can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:59 PM
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Well if it makes you feel any better I sure as hell don't now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:53 PM
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Licorice is bitter I agree the black pill isn't for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:44 PM
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What? Are you against alimony, in general or did I wrong you in another life on some personal level? What if my spouse is the one qualifying for alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:43 PM
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That sounds like a novel by William S. Burroughs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:42 PM
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They do, they form clicks. It's just inevitable. It's unfortunate that as adults we do this but it's absolutely the way of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:40 PM
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There are some things that people can bypass in the hopes of lining up with nature or making themselves appear more attractive. There are other things like pheromones, age and basic signs of health like healthy gums that you can't bypass no matter what. Sorry I have to go suddenly but I'll talk to you more later if you want you can send me a pm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:12 PM
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In this too if it is a social construct nature will balance it out. Since people's desire for others is physical and biological to a large extent, no artifice constructed by society or economics is going to over ride that. Think of the classic story of the woman who marries a poor man because he's young and healthy rather than the rich fellow her father selects for her. People are happy to tell society to go pee up a rope if society is standing in the way of their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:06 PM
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There may be a lot of truth to this, sadly. Romance is part of biological reproduction. Instinctively people want to breed with healthy people. Some things nobody can fake, and though on a personal level it results in heart break sometimes on a larger scale it's a good thing. Nature is designed for survival of the fittest so unfortunately that can impact people in their dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:59 PM
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Your phrase about assholes was really really funny. I love it. :-D On a more serious note for the house builder who lost his mom and dad to his ex, that's just hated. Most people loose some friends because they feel "compelled" to be one side or the other. I think that's why you see so many divorced people going out to meet up groups just for friends. It changes the whole dynamic of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:42 PM
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He's a good guy. I hope he pieces it all back together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:31 PM
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You too. I saw this and it made my day...poor guy http://www.funnymemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/she-had-a-better-lawyer.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:14 PM
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That's about the best advice I've seen on reddit. You rock. Thank you :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:04 PM
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A good old fashioned "Yee-haw" is probably in order with that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:54 PM
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I don't see you complaining about the 564 up votes on the original post which has been intact for three years. I don't see you complaining about any of the 57+ replies either. Why the disparate treatment when it concerns me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:47 PM
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Why are you dodging the question? The OP has had this post in place for several years. We are in a debate thread on reddit not a court room. Why am I getting specifically different treatment from specifically you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:45 PM
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Granted it might, it would be case by case
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:37 PM
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I don't see you complaining about the 564 up votes on the original post which has been intact for three years. I don't see you complaining about any of the 57+ replies either. Why the disparate treatment when it concerns me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:37 PM
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Right that's more of a technical usage of the word "everything" , the bigger picture is divorces that are lopsided or seem unjust to the participating people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:29 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me/ I know it's not a legal term, this is a discussion about the above and situations like it. People who have lost hundreds of thousands to an ex or lost custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:25 PM
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People pick sides, it's weird but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:23 PM
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Good point to hire a lawyer based on success rate with the money rather than the lawyers ability to hate your ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:10 PM
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Right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:54 PM
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That is a good point, it tends to go to the court appointed robots rather than either spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:47 PM
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That's good advice and you are right they have been through worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:45 PM
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Yes that is a little bit of poetic license on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:36 PM
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Yes it does happen and no assets (including family and friends) are not always divided equitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:32 PM
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What is the best way to survive a brutal divorce, the kind where the spouse gets everything including all the friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:30 PM
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That's very sad. The handymen in the US don't rank well financially but they do ok socially. It's a sad fact of reality that manual labor just doesn't pay as well as other jobs. Some women are interested in money more than in a buff guy who works hard. One thing we have in the west is advanced trades and advanced craftsmanship to where some manual labor jobs aren't something just anyone can do. People do have to go to school to be certain types of mechanics, or to work on air conditioning and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:11 PM
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Black pills are the most romantic and sentimental segment of all ^ sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:46 AM
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Why don't you take your anti-me protest somewhere else in the future, Shill. Later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:51 AM
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No you haven't answered my question. What are you suspicious about concerning me? You mentioned you were concerned with me dodging questioned and that it peaked your curiosity, what you haven't told me is why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:47 AM
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There you go swearing at me again, though we don't know one another. And you mentioned earlier you wanted to confirm your "suspicions"...what were you suspicious about that concerned me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:44 AM
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It wasn't for me, most of your replies were buried. ^^ Your laziness isn't an excuse to troll a stranger, neither is boredom. A direct question works better in most cases than trying to edge around it and falsely accuse people of things. Also if it wasn't "for you" who then is asking you to ask me questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:29 AM
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I answered the question for Atlas four days ago Did you? Why couldnt you have just linked me that post at the start. ^^^ I shouldn't have to. It was in plain sight for everyone on the main page. If you were content with it you wouldn't have interrupted me to troll me. No fiasco is a little dramatic but I have no idea of knowing what you are really after.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:25 AM
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I answered the question for Atlas four days ago, but you seemed to want to take time out of your day to entertain this fiasco and I'd like to know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:18 AM
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That doesn't mean that I'm not calm Id disagree, you sound pretty alarmed/paranoid, flinging about accusations of conspiracies. ^^^ Well from this end you sound sneaky and full of accusation and over absolutely nothing but I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong. I'm hoping you will admit that I wasn't dodging the question I was just pointing out I didn't happen to have one solid answer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:08 AM
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I'm calm You accused me of conspiring with another user and/or being a paid shill a second ago. ^^^ That doesn't mean that I'm not calm, I'm enjoying some candy and a nice cold glass of diet coke and a cat on my lap as we speak. I think you might be a shill but I'm calm. I really and truly don't understand why that doesn't seem to be the answer you and Atlas want. Maybe the two of you can keep patting one another on the back and saying that the problem is me. I have no idea what the hell you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:58 AM
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I'm calm I just don't understand why you equate me defining one answer for the physical sciences being different than the other answer for a law department means I'm "dodging" a question. I'm being falsely accused by you of question dodging
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:51 AM
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So explain why, if I explain the difference between physics and law do you equate that with question dodging?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:48 AM
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A legal fact being different than a scientific fact is not "dodging" a question,. If I tell you I own my house according to the law, but according to science ownership is not a physical property..that is not dodging. That is explaining that physics and law are different. Grilling = harassing, giving the 3rd degree, inquisition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:47 AM
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Are you and Atlas PMing each other about my posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:45 AM
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"Give the context its pretty easy to even guess ''do YOU personally believe that THOUGHT makes you other than an object?'' Yes in a legal sense No in a scientific sense. It can not be a yes or no answer...which I said four days ago. So why are you really here grilling me about this? Are you on the payroll somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:44 AM
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You are back peddling. You said several times you were examining my posts with another poster and asking them to ask me a question you didn't want to ask yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:40 AM
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Wouldn't you think it strange if I hooked up with another redditor and started conspiring about your posts? That's a little odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:39 AM
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Copy paste and prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:37 AM
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And what question was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:36 AM
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How long have you been following my posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:35 AM
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What are you digging for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:33 AM
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In my view I don't always have a direct belief. I'm sorry if that surprises you but we do all come from all walks of life. Why don't you just ask what you want to ask instead of generating a fake debate to try and pry something out of a stranger or make them feel called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:31 AM
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Well you sound even weirder to me. For all rights and purposes we don't know one another. Then you have some big mysterious "curiosity" about me, like you feel you need to call me out for something. So rather than just talk to me directly you begin a barrage of questions to try and pry out of me whatever truth you prefer to see. That would make anyone a little mistrustful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:30 AM
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I don't understand why you see answer dodging in a question that doesn't have a direct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:27 AM
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You seemed so cryptic when you were letting me in clue by clue into some plan that involved you and Atlas, I can't even begin to imagine what you were talking about. I was just asking for some clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:26 AM
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You are full of it, you know there's no answer to it because it's a paradox You are also dodging my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:24 AM
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Should I be frightened of you or of Atlas for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:23 AM
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Suspicions of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:16 AM
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Yeah I'm still waiting for that from you, and when I answer you, you'll tell me I didn't answer correctly or at all and then you'll pose the same question five more times. A debate is fine but this is just ass pain. I'm going to stop responding to you now, enjoy jumping out from under the bridge at the billy goats
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:15 AM
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Now you've stopped making sense entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:12 AM
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So you are conspiring with Atlas to see if I'll answer a question on the legal definition of the word "object"? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:12 AM
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So did you figure out why a raven is like a writing desk?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:09 AM
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Then go away and stop trolling. If you want to have a good faith debate you wouldn't be asking me pointless stuff for no reason other than to be annoying. You also started this by swearing at me for no reason and you've accomplished nothing not even one piece of decent philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:08 AM
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Is that the "only question that matters" in your universe. Why in the hell am I responding to your bs is beyond me. Are you going to ask me why a raven is like a writing desk next?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:07 AM
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Go troll somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:06 AM
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And that is....?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:05 AM
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I'm not dodging questions you are gas lighting me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:04 AM
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What has been answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:03 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:02 AM
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Then I have no idea what question you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:02 AM
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Yes it was hard because when I expressed this four days ago you decided to bring it up now and accuse me of "shitting up the place" with "bad faith".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:00 AM
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Is your question, do I believe myself to be an object? If so, once again scientifically I can see the Merritt in being considered an object and I can be the object of a sentence. Legally I will not allow myself to be defined as an object (for obvious reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 12:00 AM
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The question was do I "believe" people are objects and I can not give you a yes or no answer because it isn't there. My answer ultimately was "no" but keep in mind a legal answer is different than a scientific answer. Does that make more sense to you? How and why I have a yes and a no answer to that? It's kind of like Science: A house exists Law: Joe's house is paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:58 PM
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You are the one who is not debating in good faith. I give you answer and you don't like it so you decide to complain about the debate style.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:56 PM
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First you tell me I didn't give a belief. So I formulate a belief, expres it, and now somehow I'm dodging the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:55 PM
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When I tell you people are not objects how is this not giving a belief. Can you please select a debate style that doesn't involve out right lies? Finally since you know the word "belief" is not backed by any evidence, what difference does it make to you if a person goes back and forth (wavers) on a belief. Or if more than one person have differing "beliefs" on the same topic. None of it can be evidenced because it is a belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:52 PM
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I told her a thousand times that people are not objects but she insists that they are. Her decision not to think otherwise (even though its a mindset and a choice) would result in people being ok with concepts like slavery. You think I"m out maneuvered but I"m not I simply am allowed to disagree because you made it about belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:51 PM
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NOBODY can answer the question. Look at the freaking definition for belief. Belief is the state of mind in which a person thinks something to be the case, with or without there being empirical evidence to prove that something is the case with factual certainty. Belief by definition does not have an answer. By its own definition it must be void of any factual certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:46 PM
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Because it's a paradox. It's a can of worms and you know it and Atlas knows it and I think that's why you are digging in it now. Belief is the state of mind in which a person thinks something to be the case, with or without there being empirical evidence to prove that something is the case with factual certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:42 PM
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If you ask me about the circumference of a glass, it does not matter what I "believe" to be true. If you ask me what I "believe" to be true it becomes non falsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:38 PM
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No, it isn't a yes or no question because both yes or no is a correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:35 PM
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The blatant dodging of just answering the question, you threw up every distraction you could. ^^ Because it's a philosophic question there isn't a yes or no answer for it. That's why it looks like dodging. If you asked me the circumference of a glass I could give you a straight shot answer. If you asked me why capitalism is a bad thing (or a good thing) it's going to take a while to go over it. If the other poster wants to open up a can of worms, that's exactly what's going to be in the can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:29 PM
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Your title is asking if a relationship model exists entirely in people's heads. I'm just pointing out that every relationship model exists in entirely in poeple's heads. Because it's a relationship model and not something physical..like an orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:28 PM
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Why are you so annoyed by it anyhow? It's a philosophy topic and this isn't the right forum for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:26 PM
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Yes, we agree in excess. Maybe I didn't need to bring up what is or isn't in 3 d space it's just when I debate lately it seems like it needs to be clarified. It shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:19 PM
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Not until someone chooses to make it so. Until someone acts accordingly all of it would continue in a theoretical model indefinitely. That's just the nature of a behavior as opposed to the physical universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:15 PM
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Since when as leadership ever had a tangible 3dimensional quality? Leadership of any kind as always existed in people's heads. Every behavioral model, ever exists entirely in people's heads, until those people chose to act it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:07 PM
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You don't think your inability to use more than four letters, and your bringing up a four day old topic in order to vent your personal rage at a stranger is more dishonest than telling the truth of philosophy being about non falsifiable points? My my pot, I must be the kettle you've heard so much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 10:02 PM
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You must care to be bent out of shape about it two days later. It's philosophy, there's nothing but weaseling from this point forward. Atlas knows it, I know it. I don't know why you aren't understanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:55 PM
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Uh no, I don't and I"m pretty sure I haven't had a debate with Atlas going on for a couple of days, and I'm also pretty sure you were an outside party to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:48 PM
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Warm fuzzies are fine, and can settle for those instead of wild fire but to be cuddled up next to an icy clam for 30years is a fate worse than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:43 PM
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Wow short temper, do you need a time out? Answer a question about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:42 PM
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isten to what they're really saying, and frame a persuasive argument, you've solved half the problem. ^ Yes, assuming of course they are more than just a very convincing liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:05 PM
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Doesn't sound like you've been to Vegas before...or Amsterdam. (Sorry but I had an extra helping of licorice this morning I think) :-/!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:04 PM
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Having similar incomes really doesn't mean that much. People become disabled, they get fired, they get promoted. A few things happen over time that could cause a huge rift in income. Sincerity of a person's heart is about the only thing that time doesn't always change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:59 PM
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A: "Darling do you find me sexy" B: "No, I'm sorry I Kant' :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:56 PM
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Now I'm going to really licorice pill you, if someone says to me, "I'm not interested in commitment" I assume "player" and look for the nearest exit. I've got that exact phrase on my "next" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 06:57 PM
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Even then there's no guarantee of their sincerity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 06:40 PM
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french fries, mayonnaise and bread I don't like any of those...fortunately. Now cheese and pasta and chicken fingers, that's my weakness. Well we do what we can and you're right you do get to a certain point where you're not hungry, you just feel cheated out of the pleasure of tasting something. lol. Well we do what we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:44 PM
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You're right the topic was way too general. It's just what I've seen from TRP is they are looking for the man to be "the boss" of it all. It looks like there's different sets of rules depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:10 PM
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I'm not red pill but in this instance I agree with it full force. If the red pill tells you not to buy gifts for people it speaks the truth. I speak from personal experience when I say gifting someone into loving you will guarantee you find a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:02 AM
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Also if he’s willing to die for me and the kids more than I’m willing to die for him ^ This. To be able to love someone like this is the best love you can give. Whoever chooses you chooses well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 10:39 AM
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((shakes your hand)) yeah it's hard to debate a thing three days after the original post. I'd say you held up your own well too. It is a good point that behavior vary's widely and that there is a wide difference between the law and how people function daily. It's fine I think also to leave it here, there's no winners, no losers and as someone else pointed out this debate topic really is a can of worms for an infinite sea of debates. Have a good rest of the day/night? depending on geography.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 10:36 AM
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It is hard. You had the exact same issue as I did. I lost 20lbs but got it back so a lot of it is life style. The stretch marks respond to cocoa butter. You can buy it at the drug store cheap. You have some good advice with the "not eating", water helps me a lot, not eating between meals helps. Being hungry isn't really a bad feeling and it's not hard to avoid food when your just hungry. It's hard to avoid it when the blood sugar drops below a certain level and you feel grouchy. That's why I'd r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 10:33 AM
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I'm glad that post isn't what they follow on the law books at the county courthouse. Especially since the original post was a statement about Charles Manson. http://images.aspireauctions.com/auctions/2010MAY/large/33181-01.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:02 AM
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Yeah me too. I always wondered what the secret is part of the problem is I have such an awesome home made macaroni Alfredo so I just answered my own question. :-/ ! I am one hell of a chef...and it's a skill I'm terrified to use too often. :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 09:53 PM
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They can't control what people think, only how they behave at work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:55 PM
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Nah. Don't let that get you down. Anybody can work out at the gym. It'd take a lot of time and effort but it can be done. Just being on here talking to everybody about working out makes me motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:16 PM
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Blame doesn't do any good, it's like regret. It's kind of pointless to look back on it in a way but sometimes I feel like I have to analyze it, in order to get all the poison out of my heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:40 PM
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I know right? Man she looks like a dog looking at a sandwich. I'll die happy if I've never looked at anybody like that. ha ha ha ha ha. Man. That's a funny clip.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:30 PM
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It does strike me as a weird one. Not to use "king of the castle" as a metaphor because it's an old term, but to call one's self a "queen" or a "king" just because. It's common but it's a little arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:26 PM
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Really? Even if you are kissing the top of somebody's head or the forehead they can tell you it's sexual assault!? That scares me because I've kissed a lot of people on the forehead and never thought twice about it. It's not even a sexual thing, it's just a kiss on the forehead. I've had lots of people kiss me on the face but not with an intent behind it just as a greeting. Come on that's also how I say hi to my cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:19 PM
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I think that being single is the least catastrophic of all of the consequences. That's me being stubborn though, not sure that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:16 PM
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Yep me too. I'd have done a lot of things differently. I don't know why hind sight is 20/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:16 PM
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Not out for fitness (although good on you for doing it) I mean out to meet people. Like maybe a college near you to take a class, or join an art group or get involved in a protest or something. Opportunities come from individuals and who you know. I like alone time too but it shuts the door. I've hermit-ted a lot and I'm paying the price for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:12 PM
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Thank you. I'm a little pressed for time right this second but I'll enjoy it a little bit later today
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:49 PM
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I't s not a matter of how good looking the guy is entirely, it's how comfortable the woman is around the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:48 PM
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I hate the entire industry. Psych drugs are a scam they are only there to make the pharmacies money and half of them have nothing but side effects and no benefits to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:48 PM
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That's just a matter of getting off the computer and out the door. I know I'm not one to talk these days but opportunity doesn't usually come to the door you have to go to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:45 PM
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Nice link the Thomas Szaz center for liberty and personal responsibility. Yes it's a nice website. How about https://breggin.com/ He's also pretty good You also might like the law offices for psych rights. https://www.alternativementalhealth.com/find-help/listing/psych-rights-law-project-for-psychiatric-rights
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:44 PM
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I can't imagine a woman who hates the idea of being Empress. I'm sure there are some but I don't think it would be "most"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:40 PM
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WTF is a minion meme? Ok I just looked it up and I can't say I hate them. Do you know I honestly have met people who do call themselves kings and queens. I for one think it's a bit much but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:38 PM
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Absolutely that's why they call it bases. Remember first base, then second base, then third base. You're advocating sliding into 3rd without going to first and second that doesn't happen outside of a really bizarre circumstance. Rather I should say when I've seen this it's been in a bizarre circumstance like people who are high or out of their minds and trying to do it with a stranger in public like Marti Gras or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:35 PM
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In all my years of sex I've never once asked for sex verbally. ^^^ I'm guessing you were never married. That's a married people thing, but I assure you it happens. Here's the key point with groping and you said it yourself "and she wants you..." You have to be absolutely sure of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:34 PM
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And I've enjoyed Atlas Shrugged from what I've read so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:30 PM
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I just got started with Szaz but he's one of my heroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:22 PM
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Well sometimes two people meet in a bar and go home together so ONS starts out as strangers. There just has to be some smoothness leading up to it is all. By definition being "smooth" would probably exclude a random grope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:48 PM
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I guess they did. Still, it was toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:46 PM
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Ok , well if you aren't groping someone randomly than there's no conflict. It sounds like you are groping your wife or maybe before you were married your partners. That's different than a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:45 PM
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That's good advice and probably could save a few marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:43 PM
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Cats make good subjects, at my house the cat is the queen and ruler of all that goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:42 PM
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TY "Reins" -edited
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:35 PM
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Somebody needs to explain how to have "game" Like this one dude I know. Girl kisses him on the cheek. He looks at her and he says, "You missed" and points to his mouth. But he doesn't kiss her. That's game. If somebody reaches bare handed for a body part man that's just not right. Even if she does think your hot and reacts ok to it, you're going to traumatize somebody later. Later they are going to be thinking, "Man that guy was nice looking but he just reached out a grabbed my junk and he might…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:34 PM
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Upvote. I feel the same way, but again not my circus not my monkeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:31 PM
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Sounds like you are, there's no bliss like a successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:18 PM
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A relationship doesn't work with two kings and I think that's why divorce is so high. Usually both spouse's work and both want the reins and then there is conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:17 PM
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So ok, look at it this way you already know from the conversation you are having in here with us that there are some people who do not want to be groped. Don't grope people. It's a totally different thing if you have permission. So if you can't ask permission than work on your game. Here's an nice dating tip or two ok, if you want something you have to work up to it. You may not need this because you have a spouse but you can pass it on to somebody. Most people don't complain about being touched…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:15 PM
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I would think most adults want to run their own life, and that would include the house they are paying for. I do concede that I use the word "most" and not "all", I know there is a percentage of females who would prefer not to have to go to work, or would prefer to be cared for by somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:07 PM
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I think part of the flaw in your thinking is that you assume what you want is speaking for what someone else wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:04 PM
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That sounds like a happy time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:03 PM
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is that most women do not want to be the king ^ I know for a fact that's a faulty assumption I can think off the top of my head of three women who did want to run their own lives, and the house hold, no wait four and I can't think of any who would prefer their spouse run the show. Do you suppose maybe you could be misreading this as a truth or believing it because culture has taught you to think that it's true?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:02 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head, I compromise at work, I compromise on my salary, I compromise in traffic. I do not have to compromise in my relationship. I can finally at last..find one place I don't have to compromise and that's why I don't have or want a relationship. I have to compromise too many other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:00 PM
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Your quote..."Sure, but the likelihood of me finding someone else is pretty low." It says in your little pill you are only 24. I would trade all I have to trade places with you in a heart beat. At that age the world is like your own personal ocean. At 24 everything and everybody is just starting to come into your life. Tragic events do change us and they make us think that life looks bleak but it's not usually as bad in reality as we think it is. Have some faith in the future and give yourself s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:57 PM
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You could use the word "boss" or "leader" or whatever suits you the point is who makes the decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:54 PM
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I'll send you a PM when you get back from work. Nice chatting with you for now and have a good day. I'd love to debate this but I know you don't have time right now. Maybe if it's ok I'll send you a PM on it later
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:53 PM
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That's how they wound up in his van most of the time. That's one reason why I think this type of doctrine is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:50 PM
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Yeah I think when people say, things like "Women like to be groped" horrified women everywhere think you are talking about groping a stranger. That's a very different sentence than saying, "Spouses like to be groped", or "people like to be groped by their partner."...which is kind of a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:48 PM
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Are you saying no two people should share a house? No, what I'm saying is that the government really can't intervene in a private relationship even though the private relationship can cause a need for a property lawyer if the couple was sharing a house. In terms of family law it would be too much government to start making marriage illegal or to start mandating prenups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:47 PM
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I wish I could hug you. This made me cry in a way that only misery loves company can cry. Your story is so similar to mine. I quit baking all together and just went no contact. I stopped cooking. There's some things that are just...horrible. Like divorce I just can't believe how horrible divorce is. I don't have the words. The irony is I am just so mad about the financial losses more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:44 PM
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I'd love to have a long conversation with you about this. Look up "Thomas Szaz" and "Jeff Schaeler. This may not be the thread for them but these professors will turn your world view on it's ear, I highly recommend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:42 PM
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In 10 years with my wife Don't you think this is your clue "10years with my wife"...dude she knows you. She doesn't mind because she loves you and you are her family. Your wife of ten years is going to react in a very different way than a stranger in line for coffee at Starbucks. She also in no way speaks for everybody else or what anybody else would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:39 PM
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Leading others is a challenge. Even in the work place it's not what it's cracked up to be, because most people don't like to be lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:37 PM
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When I've seen it there was an outside factor like one person doing drugs, or infidelity, or maybe in some extreme cases a financial competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:36 PM
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Just because a psycho is nice looking doesn't mean he's a pleasant guy to be around. Ted Bundy was a nice looking man, Charles Manson wasn't a bad looking guy either but they are Ted Bundy and Charles Manson. Nobody wants to be around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:33 PM
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I'm the same way. That's why I like being single. There's literally nobody there to tell me any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:27 PM
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I'm sure this is a cultural difference, but I only understood about half of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:26 PM
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I've been reading psychology since I was ten, I came from a house hold that believed in it. A majority of it is crap. A person may learn poor behavior techniques at home as a child but that doesn't guarantee he or she becomes an abuser. Likewise someone who has suffered no abuse may turn into a tyrant if the conflict is significant enough. You are used to psychology so you are giving it a lot of credit. Maybe in a different thread or a PM I could change your ideas about basic psychology and see …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:25 PM
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I enjoyed reading this. It's nice that you and your partner were able to come to an agreement on how to divide up the decorations. My ex used to choose almost all of the decor and do most of the housework and it pissed me off. I was mad because I bough the damned house I should be the one to decide how it looks. Then when I left my ex got the house anyway. It was like I couldn't win. I still cry about that house. It made me feel like the house and my ex were both just something I"d rented. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:22 PM
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You don't think that abuse is a byproduct of competition for the home leadership role?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:13 PM
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I think I already specified that gtow is gold for me. I don't want to rule others I just don't want them to rule me. Now as far as marriage, flexibility and compromise those things are nice on paper but do they work in the real world? Do those other factors that are coming in jeopardize the quality of the original agreed upon compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:11 PM
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King of the castle would just be like the guy leading the household. It's not a dynamic everyone agrees to but people who agree to the dynamic would still have to be allowed that right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:10 PM
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Absolutely. I couldn't imagine what a government would look like if it had to micromanage other people's love lives. Still there are property issues, custody issues and domestic violence, things where family law has to be involved in someone else's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:01 PM
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I was mentioning domestic violence. I bring it up because it is one of the rare instances that government would intervene in a private relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:54 PM
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Agreed. However I'm going to play the devil's advocate here. Am I correct in assuming you volunteered to be in a relationship with that specific person? Or if you are not in a relationship now, at least that you would have the option of leaving if you later find one and the other person becomes a little too bossy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:47 PM
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"No woman wants to be lead at home, or life in general, work is enough." ^ This. Yes. It needs its own discussion thread. It's a good topic but sort of difficult because "home life" can't really be a regulated dynamic. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately that also makes a person's house the wild west and anarchy prevails in the domestic world. If someone leads or not is sort of up to the individual couple to decide. We can't influence it from outside the relationship. If you don't mind I'd like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 11:47 AM
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From what I gather trp is worried about mating rather than finance. Occasionally the two over lap but just because a guy got the job, doesn't mean he got the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 11:27 AM
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What I meant was to look at the deeper reality of it. Even the CEO has to worry about the IRS. Nobody is without a higher up. So if men and women were on equal footing somebody would still be getting oppressed. Every country's military has a ranking. Most countries have classes. It's the oppression that is the real problem not the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 10:55 AM
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Right but as a red pill guy once said on this sub "Your job doesn't make you sexy"..he was absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 10:51 AM
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Yes they are a real life couple. I was surprised. I mean they are cute together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:06 AM
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/24/1414182378899_wps_24_24_OCTOBER_2014_KALEY_CUO.jpg Even as a waitress with no makeup Penny is still hotter than Leonard the PhD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:01 AM
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Maybe it's just my opinion but I think she's one of the greats as far as nice looking celebs and he in my opinion is just average. Everybody has their own opinions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:59 AM
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Wise words, there's not a whole lot of time we can waste. It took me a long time to figure out that you can't wait for a liar to give you a straight answer. Same thing holds true here. Sometimes it's just better to look for that nearest exit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:51 AM
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I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or beer holder), to me they look about as far apart as Rodger and Jessica Rabbit. But that's just one person's opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:46 AM
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I always think of Penny and Leonard from the Big Bang Theory is very much like this, and they are a real life couple too. No offense to Johnny Galecki, he's an ok guy but Kaley Cuoco is just phenomenally beautiful. She seems far out of his league in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:21 AM
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Spend more time on reddit there's thousands of random mean people who come running up from nowhere. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:16 AM
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I don't think empathy is ever a bad idea. It's not the same as excusing bad behavior and we all have a tough row in some cases. All people are conditioned to give less sympathy to men I think, and it wasn't until I was reading in here about male disposability that I really thought about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:01 AM
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I don't know what made me laugh harder this question or the name "Butt-factory". You win the prize for the best comment of the week. x-D That makes perfect sense too, that's pretty much where I've gone wrong in thinking of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:50 AM
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I might be wrong on this but I'd think if you were to give them extra sympathy then it would fall under the category of disparate treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:49 AM
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It's a shame its being done to escape poverty but that's probably always been true. There are women who want to go into combat too, so that would cut down on the draft. It's a very tough row and I wouldn't want the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:46 AM
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I am too (opposed to the draft), it doesn't sound like you are opposed to equality really with that either, it just sounds like you didn't have the option to keep the military from drafting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:33 AM
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Trying to advocate for it in that way is exhausting. Nobody can or should excuse the bad behavior of over 50% of the population. Being one gender of the other wouldn't give somebody a free pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:32 AM
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That sounds reasonable. Disparate treatment in the workplace wouldn't be appropriate. I guess I was thinking of feminism more as a "white knight" role for some reason. Maybe I was thinking of it much differently than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:58 PM
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I thought "feminism" was about advocating for women's rights specifically. Not to say that other people's rights would be excluded but I really did think that based on the name that's what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:57 PM
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Well if you dedicate yourself to a cause..I would have thought that it mattered but I guess not. Or maybe not in all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:53 PM
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Yes this is out there. I have found relationships like this. I have not found it on a permanent indefinite basis but life itself isn't permanent so make the best of it. I hope you find it and make it last as long as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:36 PM
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The general consensus seems to be that they don't. I always thought they would to some extent for the positive but I must have been looking at it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:11 PM
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Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:32 PM
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That's scary. Funny probably but scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:31 PM
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Yeah but that's based on a high school and it's theater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:28 PM
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No maybe not directly but if you were advocating for the rights of the homeless, and you had also been homeless before you'd probably be less likely to react if a homeless guy shot you a bird. You'd be like well poor man, I know how it is for him and walk by it. You'd have more empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:26 PM
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What is "girl world"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:25 PM
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It doesn't violate their rights, but for example if I were to be around somebody who had the same struggles I have I'd probably make more allowances for their anger and try harder to avoid conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:23 PM
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That made me laugh a little bit the way you phrased it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:22 PM
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If a woman is a feminist and she has an inter-female conflict, then she is in direct conflict with a person whose rights and well being she has dedicated herself to uphold. Conflict would become a slight conflict of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:12 PM
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Actually I do know a few people who use the word "female" when talking about a person who is "female", it used to annoy me too but then I picked up the colloquialism because of hearing it so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 09:57 PM
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That's a good point. Also they say don't cry because it's over smile because it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 09:23 PM
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I think that women became unhappy because as they slowly began to stand up for their rights, they slowly began to look around them and sadly discovered that most men didn't have any rights either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:47 PM
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Summer heat is one of my least favorite things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:27 PM
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I think the word "cruel" is defined differently based on our experiences. I've always heard it used to mean a deliberate act of malice. In these instances it's being used to mean intolerable like a harsh circumstance. I think both are correct though. A person can say the summer heat was 'cruel" so I know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:12 PM
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I don't agree. Nature is nature. It's not always easy to take but to be cruelty there has to be thought put into it. If a man cuts his leg on a rock, it's unfortunate. If a man in the store cuts a person's leg that would be cruelty. Its the intention that is the problem. Animals don't have the brain capacity to be cruel they only know if they are hungry or threatened. Human love they respond to but I don't think they think about anything deeply enough to appreciate the ideas like we would. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:03 PM
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They do what they do only to survive, they aren't motivated by cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:52 PM
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Animals are about one of my favorite parts of being alive. They can reach my heart in a way that humans can't. They are peaceful and they don't have bad intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:41 PM
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The hair guy I still know him too. He got married had about six kids. We haven't been an item in years but those people you connect with mean a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:33 PM
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"we treat animals badly it's not just the animals I feel for but what it reflects about us..." ^ I think you have a very nice sentiment in this part. Once I saw a baby bull in a pen, about to be sold. He was six months old and he was crying. Nobody noticed. He wasn't a human so nobody cared. It made me wonder why nobody wanted to be there with him. And it made me think our species can be pretty ugly sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:30 PM
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Sounds like you really liked her. It's funny how a little bit of kindness can be so motivating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:23 PM
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Awe that's nice. Did this turn into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:14 PM
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Do you think it's ethical to control animals all the time? Do you see a distinction between animals and people? Do you expect the general public to all be Yogis for some reason. Sure work is cold, but it's part of reality, there's nothing wrong with having a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:12 PM
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Granted human sanctity isn't a 3d concept you're right. I'm not going to let go of it, and if someone else acts like an animal there's little that I'd want to do to change it because they are autonomous beings and I want to set an example of not controlling others unless absolutely necessary. In short only if they are infringing on someone else's rights would I want to step in to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:06 PM
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I hate to debate anything outside of 3d. Our legal system and everything else runs on "proof". I'll stand by it as a concept but I also know there's no way to ask a surgeon to xray a soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:59 PM
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Best guy experience: Asked a guy if I could brush his hair (he had a lot of it) LTR ................................................................................................................ Worst guy experience: Didn't know the guy's name, "Sir" felt wrong so I used the pronoun "Buster"..I was so embarrassed all I could do was walk away turning red. Still embarrassing. ..................................................................................... Best Girl Story: Wrote her a poem, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:46 PM
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Some concepts are made true by the palatability of potential consequences. This would be true of something like where to have a property line. Yes I am insisting that people not be treated as objects because of the potential consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 03:11 PM
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If I allow for the belief that human beings are also objects then I am agreeing to ideas like slavery. I will insist, so long as I am breathing, even if by force of my will alone, that human beings are not objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 03:04 PM
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That's odd but interesting. I'm not sure why the discrepancy but it's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:08 PM
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It's just a good topic. The regulations we follow at work are as you said largely different than what we follow at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:51 AM
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You asserted me to be an object, that would deny my autonomy. That would be asserting superiority. In believing me to be an object you would also belittle me to where I could be bought or sold. Objectification of a human could lead to ownership. In short I'd like to assert that I'm not an object because to believe humans are objects would hinder their survival. I have every intention of not allowing for ownership of a human, especially not of me and if I need to reify a "ghost" to keep surviving…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:36 AM
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Excellent topic. Ok. Start with point 1.) You are not two people. The same person who goes on your dates is the same person who goes to the job. You can fake a front for dating purposes but that would mean one or the other of you is to some extent lying about who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:34 AM
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No, you're right. A career is more in a person's control than a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 01:39 AM
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You can not equate ghosts with the idea of an abstraction. You also can't claim superiority over someone on the basis of your opinions on a non provable point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:45 AM
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How sweet Glib 2 post special, you opened up a reddit account just to insult me. Should I feel special?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:44 AM
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It may be that values come from culture to a point but some things are internal. We may have a negative emotional reaction to values we object to, even if they are cultural. Then we are forced to go against the grain. Red pill and blue pill tend to object to one anther's world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:34 AM
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Yes. Value is subjective. Realizing that you chose to value human life more than a toaster makes me feel safer around you. That's both subjective and objective. Those who do not value humans in the same way they value a toaster may pose an objective threat. I prefer not to worry about finding and defining "metaphysical". I like to use a 3 dimensional cut off point. So if it's not in 3 dimensional space I tend not to debate on it. I might ponder it or enjoy it but if it's outside of the space I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:27 AM
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It's a choice always to see "value" or to opine "metaphysical" about a 3 dimensional process. It is at least a provable point that would separate a human from a toaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:16 AM
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Sentience is not a replacement for "soul" it's a totally separate concept. A soul is a religious concept. Sentience has to do with intelligence and AI (nothing to do with religion or beliefs). One doesn't replace the other, they are just two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:14 AM
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She doesn't accept sentience as having inherent divine value beyond the physical matter / processes ^^^ The definition of sentience seldom brings up the topic of Divinity. Likewise the definition for Divinity isn't always specific to Christianity. It looks as though Atlas is on a witch Christian? hunt. Altruism and sentience are applicable if you are in a nun's habit or a staunch fan of Richard Dawkins it doesn't matter the same basic principles apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:56 PM
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I guess positivism, then altruism from that point. I think most of the thread supports rational egoism, I don't. As far as punishment for cannibalism I'm not saying this on a mystical level, I'm saying this in practicality if you are at the mercy of your 3 friends in a boat, and everyone is hungry you are going to need to agree to some mutual philosophy to make sure you all stay safe from each other. It's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:43 PM
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Upvote. It's layered and you're right it's probably not instantly changeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:22 PM
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After all, animals are "disgusted" or avoid cannibalism. These all come down to physical things/processes though. ^^^ That's why I think it's an internal barometer. My cat doesn't eat other cats. I also think basic philosophy should be comparable regardless of religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:22 PM
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I still say cannibalism is immoral with or without metaphysics. Eating shit is just gross, but it's not revolting or immoral because it doesn't cause injury to a "sentient" being. Yes sentience is an abstraction and that may be why Atlas rejects it, and has said as much in an earlier post. I'm fine with it and don't intend to give it up. I have a sick personal preoccupation with abstractions and how they connect to physical reality. Maybe that's why Atlas brings up reification. Also, your philos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:20 PM
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So why are you (or why is Atlas I should say) rejecting sentience? Why would you or she think cannibalism is cultural rather than rejected for being a revolting idea alone. I don't believe that all people would resort to it even out of desperation, some have an internal compass that makes them not want to go there. I think the disconnect is that you think abstractions exist for no other reason than neuronal firing. Although I think I understand what you mean I can't say I'm convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:04 PM
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Compassion and altruism are NOT metaphysical! I'm talking about a normal human experience. Hold on I'll look up reification...I don't know the term but I'll figure it out. Ok = abstract deciding a country's borders and reification = putting up the fence posts where they'd be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:59 PM
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"nothign stops us from becoming cannibals but culture..." ^^^ No. I'm pretty sure most people feel compassion, altruism, a sense of disgust at the idea of it. That is just an internal nature that's true of most people. Most people wouldn't become cannibals if presented with a violent culture wouldn't necessarily feel the need to join them. Granted there are some exceptions but usually they are the people you don't want to spend time around. You are correct in that abstractions like country borde…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:57 PM
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"all matter is objects. there is nothing but matter" Bullshit. What then would stop all people in theory from becoming cannibals? We have an experience that is non material in nature, call it altruism just for a start, then morality even though you don't like abstractions they serve a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:48 PM
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I'm astonished that you can understand sentience and yet also reject it and consider it a belief. Is consciousness a belief or a state of being? An object again would be a thing that lacks sentience or consciousness. If you reject sentience then how come you quote the Meyers Briggs test?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:32 PM
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You are the first person I've ever met who rejects sentience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience I can only define it for you so many times, if you understand it but yet reject it there isn't much that can be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:24 PM
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Ok human beings have a brain and brain stem...a toaster does not Human beings feel pain....a toaster does not Human beings are capable of abstract thought...a toaster is not Human beings are capable of having beliefs...a toaster is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:53 PM
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Can a toaster do any of those things? Moreover does a toaster have a brain stem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:50 PM
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Abstraction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:48 PM
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No the chemical interaction may be responsible for generating thought but there is still the non physical component of thought that can't be attributed to chemical or neuronal interactions alone. Think of abstract concepts like "Love" or "Campaigning". They don't physically exist in any 3 dimensional capacity. You "might" be able to pinpoint them with a brain scan..good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:38 PM
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Well I don't doubt it. I used to do exterior paint in high school so it is a different world. I prefer the office hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:29 PM
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Thought (ideas) do not exist in 3 dimensional space. Objects can not think or generate ideas. Why is this so hard for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:28 PM
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A toaster is not capable of thought. The ability to think is something that separates my doctor from the toaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:23 PM
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How are you defining "object" do you mean like the "object" of aggression or an object like a toaster is an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:21 PM
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Have you ever seen a sofa capable of creativity?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:17 PM
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If he were at any major corporation he'd be asked to keep his language professional. Work place behavior isn't specific to him, it's odd that your company presently is allowing him to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:15 PM
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Wow. What is all this? Are these guys guilty or not? Are you saying somebody framed them for being activists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:06 PM
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You guys need cold water and a safer work environment no doubt about it, doesn't mean it would hurt the foreman any to keep his words above four letters in length.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:05 PM
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Oh my word Atlas, I think you need to check yourself because you're just a hot mess right now. Ok Anybody can debate the mechanics of "thought", the brain is matter but thought doesn't exist in material space. So I'm speaking of our thoughts being a different quality than our brains. Brain = the organ ; thought = what is generated like imagination or desire Therefore "thought" is something that separates a person from a sofa. I can already tell by your post and your persistence if I say anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:01 PM
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Upvote. It just doesn't belong at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:00 PM
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I dearly love your "Quedtion" And probably because Cogito Ergo sum is the type of philosophy that rarely has a one word answer. It's not as though entire books about it haven't been written since the 1600's. I don't see a point in being your tackle dummy if you are frustrated with Descartes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:04 PM
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I keep weaseling out of it because you have my curiosity peaked. You've already tried to use blocking me or not as a weapon so my personal answer means something to you. You don't know me..so why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:50 PM
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That absolutely sucks. Regarding the cokes, switch em for diet coke or better yet water or alternate them with water. The under staffing and the time line problems that's something to go to your actual HR department with. None of that is a sensitivity training issue. Most of it is a work place safety issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:49 PM
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Why is it so important to you to get that question answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:47 PM
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Yes there are beliefs, but if we never told other people that what they believed was wrong we wouldn't have debates. You haven't lost you freedoms or your freedom of belief just because your belief is questioned. Your participation in this sub is voluntary, but the sub itself is used to debate differing beliefs. If no beliefs are ever wrong then no debate can exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:33 PM
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Yes and no. On a personal level no, but on a legal level and in the work place some courtesy applies. You are legally obligated to consider that I prefer not to be shot in the leg. If you are my coworker you'd be obligated to not grab someone else's anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:31 PM
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Why would it, what is it about construction that's making the foreman yell so much? Does he need more help? Does he need better equipment? Are you guys having medical problems that aren't addressed by doing dangerous work? The point of HR isn't just to shut him up it's to make sure the employees are in a safe environment..or safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:19 PM
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There was a philosopher named Descartes who quoted, "I think therefore I am"...Cogito ergo sum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum If you want to reject Descartes this isn't the thread for it but that's where the idea came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:16 PM
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Probably because I'm conversing with you and there isn't a rationale thing about your conversation style. Now you're hung up on whom is the "object" of a sentence and claiming I need to prove I'm worthy of your blocking me or not. Nobody cares if you block me or not, least of all me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:13 PM
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Why in the hell do you need to talk about the origin of thought, or the use of the word "object" in a sentence in order to decide whether or not to block me? I for one don't give a shit if you block me or not, and keep in mind you are the one who wrote me, asshole, and don't forget I'm using your preferred pronoun in this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:10 PM
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I'm not talking about magic at all. Right now I'm just trying to see if you are egocentric enough to formulate your own personal definitions for words that apply to nobody but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:06 PM
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Are objects capable of feeling pain? In your opinion. Is everyone now going to become an object by virtue of you personally redefining the word "object"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:01 PM
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There is a point, and the point is to make for a courteous work environment. A nice trouser ghost isn't a personal offense. There no emotional reason for anyone to take it personally it isn't a reflection on them. However farting is still an offensive act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:59 PM
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I don't doubt that it is misapplied and that the misapplication could have some dire consequences. Especially in a business environment where it doesn't belong. Hopefully most people are able to live a double life enough not to subject employees to their personal bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:50 PM
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It's not that I don't get it, it's that you are trying to build a case against something happening in the future, when it has already happened in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:48 PM
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But allowing your politics to influence hiring and firing is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:45 PM
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If the boss was female it would cause insubordination from the male employee. If the prospective employee was female it could cause a red pill manager not to hire her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:44 PM
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Why because one is definitely female and the other just might be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:43 PM
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That's like saying a little bit of aggression is acceptable. How far do you want to take that idea? If we move in the opposite direction with aggression should we all be content to be punched in the face, we need to develop tougher faces rather than less frequent fists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:43 PM
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Advice like "Don't listen to a woman" and "Don't take advice from a woman", Statements such as "Women are like children"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:42 PM
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I think therefore I am not an object
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:35 PM
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What about the statements by red pill Nakla nalka that he wouldn't hire an SJW or statements by Atlas red pill who says she expects men to work in oil rigs rather than HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:34 PM
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I guess in some cases to stay when it's a disaster could indeed be worse. However not marrying pretty much still guarantees no divorce and no unhappy marriage. GTOW still fixes both problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:33 PM
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Good question what sorts of things separate a living being from a deceased body? Why do we treat humans better than cattle and cattle better than a pair of shoes? What do you think it all means?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:32 PM
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" Those guys need sensitivity training because they never knew how to behave properly, not because RP changed them." ^ I'm on the fence about this and time will tell. Just from having read this thread there are a couple of red pill men who said that their beliefs and values absolutely do influence how they behave at work. I could maybe agree that how the red pill values affects work place performance remains to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:22 PM
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I agree with you that red pill is like a religion, and also that it doesn't belong in the work place. Are people going to keep it out of the arena because as some have attested to in this thread it does affect their workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:11 PM
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Religion is not allowed in the work place. Granted there are a few who make minor exceptions but in a major corporation you will have an "End of Year" celebration and government holidays recognized only. Prohibited biases usually include, religion, race, gender, disability, age and usually marital status, and orientation, each with a set of instructions on how to address the diversity issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:01 PM
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I'm not doubting your contribution, but you'd need to keep your competent people bare minimum. The point is very few business endeavors are a one man show.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:59 PM
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Marriage isn't bad for anybody but divorce is bad for everybody. This is why I would say don't get married. GTOW would have been a better way to live life than to go through a divorce. Male or female it doesn't matter. Most people don't plan to get divorced, most people end up divorced. Then once divorced people feel a mixture of grief and relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:48 PM
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Make up your mind, fence sitter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:31 PM
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Article, "Women respond to happiness...they don't create it" "Don't listen to a woman" "Women don't have a clue what they want" Not to mention the conversations I've seen saying disparaging remarks about certain communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:30 PM
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Yes and I know what thought police is per that novel and it's standard definition I'm not sure where you are seeing it here in this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:21 PM
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Treating women as inferiors would put you into HR sensitivity training.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:20 PM
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Define thought police
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:19 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paradox Isn't it a thought crime to think thoughtcrime is immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:18 PM
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Well the same could hold true for anything in writing. Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:16 PM
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If you were to have a 3 dimensional consequence (like forced psychiatry) then your thought would be considered a crime. You can not forbid yourself from thinking of thoughts as moral or immoral because it generates a paradox. Read the first sentence again... Is it immoral to think that thoughts are immoral. It's a paradox, there is not an answer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:15 PM
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The conversation is on PPD debate, this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:13 PM
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In some sad ways it's true. It may not be what we want but the guy with the bigger weapon usually makes the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:12 PM
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No that would be a paradox ie: "Is it an immoral thought to think thoughts are immoral?" Thought crime would refer to action taken more than just the thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:11 PM
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Discussion with Nalka Nalka a business owner who dislikes hiring people he perceives as SJW, found in other threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:10 PM
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Believing a thought is immoral isn't the same as criminalizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:07 PM
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I think you mean hopefully the red pill wouldn't spill over into work. Yes we had a gentleman on here say he leaves his little red pill at home when he puts his morning suit on. There are other red pill gents who practice the philosophy IRL and in their own companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:06 PM
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I'm sure they are breathing a collective sigh of relief as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:05 PM
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Neither do I, and that wasn't the question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:04 PM
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The discussion is hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:04 PM
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Do you believe in the existence of morality at all? If not then it's just a contest of wills from your world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:02 PM
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Politically incorrect language, sexist undertones, advocating for a dominance hierarchy based on physical appearance in the dating world it's questionable, as a work environment it'd be hell on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:02 PM
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If you literally think I am an object that is solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:00 PM
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Well if you are advocating staunch moral relativism, then "bad behavior" probably doesn't have any comparative metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:59 PM
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Here comes the "subjective morality" (moral relativism) philosophy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:56 PM
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Well we can't, it's not allowed. We all have to do our political expressions on line to the extent that we feel we need to be political. I remember work places trying to get their employees to wear red for republican blue for democrat, I'd always wear gray that day. I'll talk about it at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:51 PM
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:-) Anytime
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:45 PM
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So if someone was offended in your company then what are their options
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:34 PM
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Competition from other employers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:31 PM
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Both are a logical flaw. You assume what makes you miserable is what makes others miserable and that's not necessarily true in all cases. Learning to use politically correct language is a practice that most businesses have adopted world wide because it prevents legal action not because everyone found it initially comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:28 PM
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Up vote for you sir, I think it's infinitely better, a very nice approach. I don't usually "date" either. I'd rather go out with a group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:23 PM
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Agreed. This is more or less for the purpose of the thread. If someone wanted to search for disparate impact they'd have to do some digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:20 PM
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Are you avoiding hiring people who make "everyone else" miserable..or are you avoiding hiring people who make "specifically you" miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:19 PM
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You do realize beauty and strength are not objective values I assume. I'm glad you can find joy in being stuck behind the unkempt mother with six screaming babies in the line at the supermarket. I'm sure she appreciates that your taxes are paying her welfare check and their schooling and their bus trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:09 PM
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I still say that your hiring policies are probably bridging closely to discrimination. You're right in that it's nothing I'd ever pursue in real life but for the purpose of this thread I think you are going about it wrong. Laws aren't there to see how closely we can all get to breaking them. There are plenty of unethical things people do that are legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:07 PM
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Were you here when I distributed the VHEMT hand out? Maybe you didn't get a copy. Here you go http://vhemt.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:03 PM
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What is a date if not an extended job interview? You are there or he or she is there to make an impression. People show up for a date to dress up and be judged on all fronts. Every date is a job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:59 PM
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OK if you're not red pill than why do you believe that childless people are "broken failures" rather than planet saving heroes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:57 PM
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It would be wrong to do that stuff at work. What you do in the bedroom is nobody's business but you and the consenting person you are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:51 PM
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Right but say every SJW that you don't hire coincidentally happened to be an SJW about being over 50. Then soon you have an age discrimination suit. It depends on why the person is an SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:50 PM
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Esau the red wasn't as good as the blue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:44 PM
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A nice restaurant, a warm handshake, any and all criticism wedged between two compliments, everyone dressed nicely..no I really don't think it would be a bad date at all. I think it would be an excellent first date, those are always very job interview like anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:43 PM
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With all due respect, I think you and the rest of the red pill gentlemen are probably more likely than I am to have fantasies involving a sore butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:38 PM
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No, but you will care when it's your turn in the HR office.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:23 PM
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Right but if they happen to notice that every excluded person happens to be the exact same demographic..well that's not good for your business...or your customers. Plus you'd be taking your politics to work everyday. I suppose you can poop where you eat if you own the company but you still have the public to answer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:17 PM
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Private contractor?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:14 PM
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Maybe excluding SJW doesn't apply, or maybe it doesn't matter in your jurisdiction. I would think that would be a heavy discrimination suit waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:13 PM
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I'm sorry maybe if you gave me some better material to work with rather than spending your time being as offensive as possible I could write you some better jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:08 PM
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That depends, are you actually trying to be intelligent?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:03 PM
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I'm sure you still have to follow regulatory compliance though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:03 PM
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Right but remember there's no "I" in team. There's no "U" in corporate either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:02 PM
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I've never seen a man act like a cigarette from the United Kingdom. I imagine the act of wrapping one's self in tight paper would be hard to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:01 PM
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Do you have a problem with homosexuals or do you literally feel that modern business types are a bundle of British cigarettes? I'm also curious why the thought of human tears disgusts you rather than inspiring your compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:59 PM
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I shouldn't laugh at their misery but they way you phrase this is funny. I bet they weren't too happy. I think the idea behind it would be to encourage offenders to STFU in future times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:50 PM
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So you feel that facing up to a person who has studied law is more dangerous than falling off of an oil rig? Usually the oil rig would be worse on the male disposability factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:48 PM
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Yes. Misandry would be an HR issue. So although feminism may or may not be an HR issue depending. You'd have to compare the situation to prohibited bias discrimination https://diversity.weill.cornell.edu/policies/anti-discriminationprohibited-bias-related-misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:43 PM
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Corporate in my opinion is the kind of thing you have to enjoy like a brandy. It's a whole experience. So for this situation... Neither the guy or the lady should have been discussing race, or religion at work. There's a list of no no's called prohibited biases and if you follow the guidelines you're fine. Granted it does suck that the upper people get perks like off days and times where they don't have to work as hard...however even the upper people should be subject to the prohibited biases be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:41 PM
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I lived and breathed corporate for more years than I care to admit. Even when off duty and drunk at the bar I was with the HR people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:34 PM
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No I wouldn't think a first time issue if you aren't uncouth would be a problem. But as someone else said a little bit ago, "Don't crap where you eat"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:24 PM
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What I'm attracted to is a group dynamic. There's no "I" in team and although entrepreneurship is commendable you won't be able to accomplish anything alone. It's infantile to think self is all that's necessary for a society or a business to run. An infant is all about itself..until its first day of preschool where it is forced to interact with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:18 PM
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It teaches anti values
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:08 PM
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Way over my head. I'm still stumped by cascading style sheets. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:06 PM
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Ok. Well you said "Hactivism" it was the first thing that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:00 PM
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Ten bucks says there's a white mask involved there somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:53 PM
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Undestood. Is there anybody else going through a similar problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:46 PM
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What I can tell you from personal experience is co workers have a funny way of finding out whatever we wrote on line. No clue as to how it works, only first hand experience that it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:42 PM
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That would be up to how the case goes, but if you can prove sex discrimination then you would have a legit complaint against your HR department.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:35 PM
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Right so the idea being what if the rest of the world is just an extension of our workplaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:30 PM
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No. Hitting on a woman at work sends you to HR
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:29 PM
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It's a shame though. Do you ever feel like the real you is actually a better person than the fake one, just for the fact that at least he's real?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:29 PM
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Not so. I know a few male HR directors. If there's an unfair imbalance of power you can litigate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:26 PM
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That's backwards, it forces infants to act like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:25 PM
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We all need a private life. I think it's true that most people have to be two different people, one at work and one the rest of the time. To be allowed to integrate as a whole person all the time would be quite an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:02 PM
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That's interesting. Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:01 PM
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Have you seen issues where a man's complaints were under acknowledged at work? That's a job for a lawyer, but it would be a profitable endeavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 12:00 PM
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There's something wrong with thinking of other beings as objects to be used and degraded. So long as the information is public you'll probably find complaint. Even a locker room is not the bathroom at your house. Or to put it another way those who do not respect existence can expect resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:58 AM
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I know this is a tough question, but it's worth asking, do you really want to ascribe to a thing outside of work, that you'd be embarrassed to take with you into the office?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:49 AM
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Poor Midge. Guess she'll have to sit at the Red Pill Malibu guest house with GI Joe and the Thunder cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:28 PM
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Don't forget Bob's wife "Midge" who got dumped for Barbie because she should have known better than to have been sporting short red hair and glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:23 PM
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There are only two types people allowed into the Red Pill club, one is Ken and the other Barbie. (or Chad and Stacy as they are now labeled) The rest of us can go crawl in a hole as far as they are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:13 PM
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It's fun if you are either young, or drunk and high on South Park's San Francisco smug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:30 PM
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Well said OP. I'll drink to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:14 PM
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That's a good thing to keep in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:17 PM
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You don't think it's the greatest option? I guess it would take out the option to travel easily but still owning your own dirt..what could be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:07 PM
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The market is no nowhere what it was, the last property I bought was 2010 and my ex is in it. :-(! But congrats it was a good time in the market. The market is very high right now unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:51 PM
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It's highly coincidental that two days in a row you'd come to my posts and just make shit up to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:01 PM
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It's a tame conversation, it's not a big deal... but I'm not yanking your plonker, you're being a damned plonker to me over the last couple of posts. It's no big deal just cut the shit out, make a valid point but don't follow my ass around it's not stylish being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:48 PM
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If it didn't do any good when I complained about it at the time, why would it do any good to complain about it now? It's real simple just stop trolling. You are a smart guy, I don't believe for a second that you are stupid enough to not know when you are being a troll so just knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:41 PM
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How many people need to confront you before you can admit to yourself that you are in the wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:26 PM
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That's still way out of range for me. It may depend on where you live but the market is still way to high for the average single person and those of us who are divorced lost our one shot..in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:24 PM
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Your points are not valid, and I'm not the only one who has noticed it. If you have a valid point you can make it, if you are just here to troll then you're in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:18 PM
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I don't doubt it, I'm sure there are several reasons. Marriage and LTR isn't always what it's cracked up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:06 PM
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Yes there is the word "debate". That's a very different word than "harass" and "gaslight". Debate is when you disagree with a point someone made and have an actual valid point of your own in exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:04 PM
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Yes but that's one of the developmental goals of life, isnt it? Well for most of us, we hook up so we can accomplish goals like house buying and world travel or whatever we are working on. Granted for divorced people it bites some of us in the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:03 PM
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I'm sorry your memory is so bad you are having difficulty figuring out not only how to type but how to differentiate between the multiple targets they are paying you to harass. You might want to tighten up or they'll hire another troll to harass people in your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:17 PM
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They dont' make it easy for singles. This is why you see so many people who just get LTR with whomever because it keeps their butt off the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:38 PM
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Kind of, I'm waiting for him to fire back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:33 PM
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I don't know? Oh, Ok. The troll. Sorry didn't know what you meant at first. I had 2 days worth from him. I swear he's on the payroll for somebody. :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:32 PM
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And people who make cohesive sentences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:30 PM
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Still never as comfortable as double income no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:25 PM
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I think that user is a paid troll, you might be wasting your time responding to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:13 PM
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You are the same person yesterday who insisted that my post didn't follow logic. In your eyes I'll never win, and I don't even know you. What gives? Are you a paid troll, or a schill for a corporation I made mad once? CMV: You are a paid troll and you are following my posts around. PS: Regarding your quote..."male a shitton of money." How does one "Male a shitton"? Did you mean "Mail"? Is a "Shitton" a unit of postal measurement, like when someone ships their pants by UPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:08 PM
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That's hopeful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:07 PM
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"How a guy suffers from break up or rejection" ^ I can't speak for anybody else but reddit divorce is full of compassionate people. Reddit relationships might be a good reddit forum. This one is for debate so if you are looking for tea and sympathy I wouldn't recommend ppd debate. Sometimes misery loves company and if you read those threads like reddit divorce, it doesn't matter the gender of the divorced person everybody is going through it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:00 AM
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Very well said. It cuts down on the obvious way most of us have sex, by our long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:28 AM
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That's pretty standard, married in college divorced by around 40. Stats say median age for divorce is 30 and median age for first marriage 25
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:52 AM
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Married in college happily ever after is most people...until the divorce. So that's what forty plus looks like, divorced people and widows/widowers. Nobody can turn back the clock but I don't think most people expect to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:56 PM
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Why hasn't the red pill figured out a way to make "Chad-i-tude" a word?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:26 PM
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What I would say to anyone is if you are lucky enough to have a spouse that you love, fk the hell out of your spouse. Do whatever you need to do and whatever they want even if you are tired, because once death or divorce hits it'll be to late.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:46 PM
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Feminism is political, red pill is personal. You wont usually find any advice for your love life in feminism. If you want to know the history of women voters or get a pool together to help women living in extreme poverty you can call feminism, but it isn't there to help you with your love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:02 PM
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I have an answer for this or maybe it's my own stupidity. I assumed (wrongly) that looks didn't matter for ADULTS. At least not in the same way. In high school/middle school it's a given you have to look a certain way. Otherwise your life sucks. But, I assumed once you were thirty or forty years old that people understood none of us hold up forever, people are likely to have had a few things break, sag, bend ect. I just assumed there would be some 'give" and there's not. I didn't expect to see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:35 PM
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doesnt see partners as full human beings ^^ It's hard to say what someone else sees. I just know how it feels to wake up and have somebody leave. How different and miserable that is compared to finding someone who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:29 PM
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That's actually really tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:27 PM
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When I think of these 60yr couples, I'm sure it wasn't perfect but they were happy. There's nothing glamorous about divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:27 PM
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Agreed. I think I can honestly say in that case (or cases) it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:08 PM
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But that doesn't make everybody happy is what I'm saying. It makes some people miserable because then the other person goes and has it with somebody else, and somebody else after that and then you do to and pretty soon there's no chance of any sort of bonding and everybody is twice as exposed to diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:08 PM
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And here I thought we were all collectively together trying to resolve why "love stinks".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:06 PM
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If you are using a living being as an object to masturbate with how is that different from any other solipsistic act?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:51 PM
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Sex without love isn't love it's an act of solipsism. Red pill can preach whatever they want, I'm just asking that they appreciate the irony of being hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:46 PM
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If you wrote "sex" addicts maybe I'd agree to an extent. There might be some red pill people with a sex addiction. Love addiction no, there's not an announce of it to be found. The love stops here. I'm a bluer pill than a red one, but I think that red pill as someone else said is descriptive not prescriptive. So some of us come here to stare into the abyss. Maybe that makes me a black pill. However if you want to see some truth and can stand if it's ugly sometimes then it's still worth reading t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:44 PM
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No. That's a little bit of a red herring. They don't become unlovable anymore than a drunk man becomes permanently hungover. My point is just if you look for an ONS you have to know that the odds of it becoming an LTR are really slim. If you search for an LTR and accidentally have an ONS then you move on to the next hopeful LTR. But if you look for the ONS that's all you'll find.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:38 PM
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With all due respect if they are mostly searching for a casual relationship then they have probably found the direct cause of not receiving love from women. (Nobody intends to get a hangover when they go to the pub...but it stands to reason..)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:29 PM
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This debate is bigger than specifically me and in this case the solopsism isn't mine. In this case any effort on my part would be to counter solopsism...marginally. Enosspick is the one refusing to acknowledge the full human nature of the being he is with as evidenced by no desire to spend days at the beach with her. As you said, I have no way of enforcing it, nor would I want to, but it is solopsistic. If the red pill enthusiasts want to avoid criticism then they should avoid dealing criticism …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:10 PM
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Wait where do you think I'm making a standard for others? That's not a valid assumption. This is a commentary not a regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:33 PM
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Wait, where are you getting these rules from? I followed the post guidelines in the side bar that are applicable to the sub the post is in, what you're stating is something different than what's on the page face of ppd. I also don't see your name in the list of mods, no offense intended of course, but I don't think that you are entitled to make demands on other people's post content to this extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:27 PM
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Others were able to follow and sum up the train of thought quite well. I notice you are from a different country. Is English your second language? Perhaps its a regional difference that's causing the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:18 PM
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You don't see that connection as inferred? You summed it up nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:14 PM
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In the red pill philosophy and the manipulated man they talk about "female solipsism"...basically not acknowledging anyone other than "self" as a valid person. I think it's more than just the women folk who are are solipsistic. This "solipsism" seems to be at the root of those relationships that are physical only, or as someone else put it, the human lover could easily be replaced by a corpse as long as the body was still warm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:02 PM
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Where are you seeing a disconnect?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:55 PM
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This made me laugh. For two reasons. The first it sounds like my sad love life. There's no life in it, if there's love or not who knows. There's just sex and my own partners I think I could have replaced them with a corpse. The second thing I like is that you said "Febreeze" with a double "ee". That makes me wonder if you are from old earth like I am. It's Febreze in this universe according to the Mandela effect. https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/44d3sk/febreeze_and_febreze/ https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:34 PM
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It's hard to explain regardless of blue pill or red pill. I have relatives that get married and sixty years later they are together and faithful. My own life it seems like it'd be to easy to have nothing but casual sex. Why? Maybe it's my life but maybe we live in a different time. It's like having food and you're happy there is food, but if it's all starch and sugar and bread and nothing else it's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:30 PM
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Well have you found someone like this? If you have, then why are you here wasting time, go spend time with them. approximately 10% of women and 5% of men find their soul mates. "Soul mates" - I hate that word, and I don't believe in it. I feel like men create "love", it's just a matter of whom. But yes it is easier said than done. I've had someone like that a few times, but it doesn't mean "soul mate" is the word to describe them. I can give and love and create all this for somebody, but there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:24 PM
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Ha ha ha. Well maybe it does kind of. If sex is the glue that holds together a relationship then casual sex would cause cognitive dissonance. I don't know that I see this as a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:21 PM
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That's a different universe to me. Red pill has love as an occasional byproduct of sex, blue pill has sex as an occasional byproduct of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:16 PM
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Love is not a primary determinant of my actions though. ^ Then why date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:58 PM
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Upvote. To me red pill is what it is, and blue pill is what to do about it. You can't say there's not a turd on the floor, but likewise you can't leave it sit there. Maybe all we can do is put a towel over it, but at least we tried. Thanks for wishing things were better...I sure as hell do. But if we can laugh about them it helps. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:46 AM
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Egad. I mean it's your life,none of my business but I'm too much of a germophobe for that shit. I also still don't get why "getting laid" is such a big deal to red pill people. I can't imagine trading in having someone to pick you up if you are stranded on the side of the road for a situation where you are exposed to 3 people's potential contagions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:39 AM
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Brilliant! I love everything you wrote here. I didn't want children or the white picket fence either. I would have traded them both for a life long partner and mutual respect. The only thing I disagree with is the end that love was created to make sure we reproduce...no I think it's much better than that. I think it was created so we'd accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:08 AM
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So it's like eating only the hot sauce and leaving the rest of the burrito. The whole point is to find someone to connect with. You can use anything as an object for gratification this is a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:24 AM
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But this is a full human being. It's solipsism to say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:59 AM
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So she's basically just functioning as a third hand? Aren't you missing something...like breakfast? Brunch? The day at the beach?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:46 AM
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CMV: If you want her gone in the morning then you might as well have her gone 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:41 AM
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Reminds me of a country song. Have you ever seen a head stone with these words, "If only I had spent more time at work" It goes without saying that people want more good times than bad times with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:41 AM
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So are you saying it is safe to paper date them? :-/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:13 PM
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You are correct being financially dependent on someone else would leave you at their whims. I am perplexed by anti-feminism. I was trying to understand it and I can't exactly except for the impact of feminism to non-binary people. If a feminist opens up a support group for women only...then later decides she is a trans man, how is her own support group going to treat her. Will he be able to walk back into the same door as a man, and get the same respect he had when he was the support group's fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:28 PM
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Still they may have been falsely accused or sentences may be shortened by the judge
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:46 AM
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Lol. Maybe a little bit. I'll say this much you are on board with exactly what has been on my mind and keeping me awake which is the measuring of intangible qualities. I did pose this to ask science on reddit and we'll see what they say about "measuring happiness" if they approve my question. If not I"ll try and rephrase it. It's a worthy pursuit. I'm guessing physics will say no and psychology will say yes https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:02 PM
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I get it. But it's still crap...well crap ish. Can you find happiness in the body at autopsy? No. So how do you figure heart rate is going to measure it? How are they sure the brain electrical activity isn't caused by something else? Look at the rest of it too. Personality? Really? Isn't that how you are perceived by others? In connection to your social group? Why would that be enough to support that people who say they are happy aren't lying? I'm just not buying these things as accurate. Happin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:33 PM
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So how was happiness measured? ^^^ Nail on the head! I'm thrilled that you see what I mean here. It isn't. Happiness isn't measurable at all. If so how is it measured with anybody? What accounts for lies? How much did they get paid to do the study? Who is paying them? What fell outside of the boundaries of the study? There's a lot that isn't clear. Also how would reinstating 1950's era gender roles presumably make women happier? How happy could they have been to have changed them in the first pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:59 PM
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This has nothing to do with the presidency and it has nothing to do with people who think differently. This has to do with gross generalizations and massive inaccuracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:52 PM
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Every study has a controlled set of variables, presumably to measure something. Happiness is a vague and totally subjective and immeasurable quality. It's not like height, weight, mass, speed. Happiness is a concept. Doesn't it strike you as odd...at least a little odd that subjective data is being presented as an objective study? I know it's common....but before we continue it's important to consider that because its' the point where...if you want to be a scientist...you'll begin to see the soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:47 PM
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https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-news-network-headline-the-language-of-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:41 PM
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Indoor plumbing goes against "nature" too but it's held up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:34 PM
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Tell me where you got the evidence in the first place to hold the viewpoint that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:34 PM
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You seriously think this is true? I can't describe it any other way but to think Doc Emmet brown is going to pop out of a Dolorean. I can't event take what you are saying seriously. The 1950's thought a lot of strange stuff like this, like doctor endorsed cigarettes. https://promocrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1950_cigarette_ad_59.jpg And females who were stumped by a ketchup bottle http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/del-monte-ketchup__width_580.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:15 PM
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Ok, now you've moved into work life circa 1950-1965. It's 2017. Think about how the work force is around you now. We don't have Sally Secretary and Pete the Pastor anymore, and we haven't in half a century. You're talking about the days when nurses weren't often male and still wore the little hat with a plus sign on the front. Not to mention school teachers are either gender as well...now. Doctors are not just boys today, School Principles are female sometimes. It's 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:00 PM
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Yeah. That's true. But I've been the pen pal. You want to meet them later, especially if it's somebody you like. *Note: I am not a prisoner...nor have I ever been in jail. I'm just saying I know how it is to keep getting letters, have someone look at you like you're special and then you're just a safe option. It's stupid to write to someone who's in jail because there are too many regular people who are far enough away to have a paper fling. Also, the jail bird is going to get out, and he's goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:56 PM
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First of all there is almost no need for a physical strength competition as most jobs are not manual labor Second, you are not specifying what male and what female Third, once again...I'm not disagreeing with a physical strength difference existing, I'm only pointing out that it's irrelevant. How much physical strength does somebody need to hold down a modern job, like making repairs on a nuclear medicine machine?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:46 PM
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That's really not the debate. If that's your only point you could just debate about physical strength upper body, vs lower body vs what type of work out. This sentence reads as if there is work divided up between male and female. Only rarely does that even happen. Maybe military still worries bout it. Your sentence reads as though women sit around having babies as their career It reads as though being a surgeon or an X ray machine repair tech, being a lawyer, being a PA.. can't happen for them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:40 PM
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Don't knock the value of being the fantasy pen pal. That's how I once managed to have a pretend gay wife in a different country. At least she wrote to me and not to a prisoner. Eventually your pen pal is going to want to see if your interested in person. In my case I'm just ugly and I might stink sometimes, but those cons are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:35 PM
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Yeah maybe you could debate that, but this shit reads like you just left your pocket watch on the Titanic. There's not a bit of "the modern world" happening in that world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:20 PM
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"Women have a lot of idle time when they're not producing children, so they have to figure out what to do in the mean time. They can't pursue the harsh work of men without either harming their own weak constitution..." ^ Does it ever seem ironic to be typing during 2017, on a computer I presume was made after the year 2000 about a world view that hasn't been in place since about 1910?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:10 PM
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This is spot on, we talked about that in here yesterday (collectivism vs individualism).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:14 PM
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Probably depends on what you are talking about. If you have something big enough to need protection from, then maybe there's a larger problem than just being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:10 PM
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Thank you for this. It's insightful and makes me happy about being single again. ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:09 PM
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How could alone be any worse than being on the bottom rung?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:06 PM
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Kings, bankers and presidents have money that's all it is. But serial killers are probably a dynamic nobody wants to know about. They get laid and by a lot of people and nobody knows why. Psychopaths seem to charm people. That's what makes them so dangerous. Their world is as mysterious as it is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:04 PM
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social hierarchy is inescapable...are you sure? Think about people who drop out of society. I think given enough money and enough resources people escape social hierarchy all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:57 PM
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You aren't wrong, but you're giving a description of life "in general" rather than specifically red pill vs blue pill. The red pill followers seem to be more conservative The blue pill followers seem to be more inclined to want to change the existing world view of the red pill people. Almost like republican and democrat in real life, but not exactly. Everybody wants more equality, or better than the situation they are handed. Blue pill's way of doing it is to change the views of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:51 PM
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Yeah it was :-D Thank you Those were the days. It's a shame that things turned out how they did but you know what they say, don't cry cause it's over, smile cause it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:17 PM
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Dominance is a constant and prevalent thing in society. You can call it alpha and beta, you can cal it whatever you want but it's part of life. Alpha, beta, omega is red pills way of explaining it but it would be there anyway. I think Red pill wants to keep things as they are and blue pill wants to change them. Either way it's a debate, it's a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:14 PM
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Wow. Ok. Well I hope you have a better day. Maybe get yourself a gin and tonic or something and relax a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:23 PM
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Are you ok? This really seems to be bothering you. There's a few movies where someone will say something like, "I really love your....father's money" or something along those lines. The phrasing shouldn't be this big of a deal to anyone. Is something unrelated bothering you about me specifically that you aren't talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:21 PM
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Yes. For him and for you. I've know a couple alcoholics very well, one is still a good friend. It's like they'd have the world at their feet otherwise but it's never enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:18 PM
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I modified it. Maybe it's a regional thing. I don't know why you wanted to take that literally and expound on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:17 PM
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Ok. So it's one of those problems in comprehending a figure of speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech It's like if I say I'm so hungry I could eat a horse, I probably won't. Same idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:15 PM
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I can't explain why you've never heard of a man who's just using a woman for her money. Unless we came from two different planet earths, I'm sure it has happened around you somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:11 PM
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"It certainly isnt' mine and I know no one who's had these experiences, especially" ^ I think as someone else said check your privilege. Maybe you're just wealthy around the wealthy and so it bypassed you in a way and maybe it hits the lower an middle classes harder. I don't know why you've never heard of it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:09 PM
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I've never dated a man who didn't have a deep and honest affection for my money. Fascinating. This is completely alien to me and I can't identify with it. ^ Maybe in you are exceptionally pretty, or used to being around exceptionally pretty women. There are other women in this world who men date but we know they aren't finding us as hot as someone who is prettier or younger. I know a few women who are the provider. It's not always ideal. In fact most of the times he's playing her and may also be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:59 PM
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What a sweet heart you are. You deserve a couple of up votes. I'm not so generous. I expect my partner to have some money. "Some" you know doesn't have to be a gold mine but some employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:37 PM
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Congratulations. Sounds like a very nice time for you both. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:05 PM
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It's tough. In modern society most people can't afford not to work in some capacity. The women I know who were ok as stay at home moms had dual employment in some home related field to fill in the gaps like housekeeping, or home health aid. I know one who does landscaping part time. I know three or four of them who are maids at least two days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:47 PM
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Yes I see your point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:17 PM
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Goes without saying but yeah that's modern capitalism. We're all conditioned to work lots, make lots, spend lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:15 PM
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Maybe. I'll have to think about that one. On one hand you ideally want someone to love you not just use you for sex and not just use you for money. In reality people might find one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:40 AM
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Yes that it is, on both counts. It's nice to be able to be there for family if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:36 AM
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I loved it. It was crazy at the time but it was a thrill to go out and buy them something. I probably lied to myself and told myself it made me powerful. Shopping and birthdays were a hell of a lot of fun. I can't do it now, but one year I bought somebody a dirt bike. It was a riot going out to the woods to watch him ride it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:36 AM
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What that means... I don't know about anybody else's relationships, but my men loved my money. I used to have some. They spent it. Yes I agree somebody who keeps their own bills up is a good one to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:33 AM
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That's really hard to deal with, when somebody is an alcoholic. It's a very tough and unfair choice to have to make. It's terrible to loose somebody to alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:59 AM
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Are you calling me a liar here or are you just looking for an excuse to be especially feisty all over my posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:30 AM
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Thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:20 PM
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This is just a personal observation about life. I wasn't aware I was supposed to be filling in a Webster's entry for either individualism or collectivism. Why do you think I'm here to function as your personal dictionary? If you want someone to look up definitions for you, you can hire a secretary. If you want somebody to tell you the truth you can listen to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:19 PM
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There is a middle ground. Some spirit of brotherhood is necessary in order to survive in this world and it's not always about communism. We can sit around and be well fed misanthropes for a while, but, there's always a bigger sea monster. I'm not that big of a fish that I can do without a good amount of friends. Friends aren't really a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:42 PM
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That's not the effect it has on most people. Would you like to share why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:24 PM
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That would be significant, do you have any sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:22 PM
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Probably Norway is better. What's happening in the USA is straight up abuse. I've seen men tackled by six to seven nurses like the poor fellow is a football. It's not right how they treat humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:18 PM
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Back the truck up because I was emailing a cat hat several months ago to protest psychiatry and she was on board with it. So what happened? Yes the US is a corporate power and has a lot of money and has gang stalkers, and psychiatrists galore and a 4bln plus pharmacology industry. Still not seeing how that's related to feminism. Feminism and the MRA need to agree to end forced psychiatry. Together. Even the UN is against forced psychiatry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:32 AM
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Ok, so what you are worried about is that feminism will fuel the new KGB? I doubt it. I'm pretty active on the anti-psychiatry thread and I'm also pretty blue pill with my leanings. I've personally spoken with a few pink cat hats in the past and they aren't thrilled with the turn psychiatry is taking as it is. I don't represent them I'm just saying how the conversation went. Nobody wins with a KGB. Neither side seems to want a KGB. Look at it this way. Do you have the right to think about taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:20 AM
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((face palm)) sigh What's your actual point here? That rights are conceptual and don't exist in 3 dimensional space? People choose what rights they are willing to extend to others..and in what actions. I choose to follow the UN's charter of human rights. Which would include not objectifying others based on the spirit of the declaration. See article 1 .......................................................................... Either rights exist, or the UN is there for decoration .................…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:10 AM
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It is never a real-world deed that causes matter to move outside the brain. ^ Wait, what? Before we go any further please explain this idea. ............................................ Also, no there's nothing in the above thread that would indicate that I be personally excluded from this thread. Especially when it's a public thread and I'm answering a question that you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:40 AM
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The red pill is a game, the rules of it don't apply everywhere or even anywhere outside of the red pill world.
/r/ExRedPill02/11/17 10:37 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html You are thinking of freedom of thought. A person is free to think all things, they may even be free to say most of them, they are not free to act on everything they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:29 AM
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I'm not a fan of psychology/psychiatry because people tend to abuse it and weaponize it, but psych central has a few articles about verbal abuse. https://psychcentral.com/lib/signs-you-are-verbally-abused-part-i/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mysteries-love/201503/15-common-forms-verbal-abuse-in-relationships The bottom line is power. If another being is berating you, then you feel powerless. People respond to feeling powerless in different ways but the feeling is pretty similar for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:39 AM
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There's an old saying "No matter how good looking they are, somebody, somewhere is tired of their shit". Now men tend to overlook mean in exchange for beautiful. It may not be healthy but they can overlook emotions a little easier. Women I don't think they do as much. I'm sure it can happen somewhere but social approval matters a lot to a woman, and even women who are coming from emotionally abusive relationships with the worst narcissists want better for their lives. You might find women who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:35 AM
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Are you the same one who assumed I hadn't also had a parent die? I've also had a bad divorce. It's how I lost my beautiful house. I think that's the type of thing that tells anybody clearly that no person is the boss of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:37 PM
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Yeah I used to live in a city flat, but don't brush it off. You can still do projects. I built an end table in my apartment years ago. You can also do wood burning, which if you have a small porch area will allow for the smoke smell to evaporate. The gym is the best thing for you I just really like wood.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:19 PM
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Well it could be hobbies too. I have a couple friends who are stay at home moms but they do elaborate rock work on the lawn, mowing, home repair. It's a lot of fun. I don't have the cardio for that type of thing but I still try and do stuff like that. You can pick up a few books on wood working and home repair. It'd be perfect for you since you have a home to maintain and your hubby might enjoy going to the hardware store with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:50 PM
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I always offer to pay for my own, or next time. Rarely do I pay for others unless it's my turn. I hate getting burned in that way and by sharing the load I can avoid burning someone else. Plus there are some people who think they temporarily own you for a half order of cheese fries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:43 PM
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I'm not sure what color pill I am but I'll say this much.... love love love love love. It's a bitch, it's a breeze, it's our enemy, it's our best friend- nobody knows where it came from or where it went. Like death it's a subject that can only be appreciated by the poets with clenched fists and eyes full of tears. You can't look to the red pill, you can't look to romance novels, and you can't even look to Merle Norman...because it isn't there. We don't (unfortunately) control it. It's bigger tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:34 PM
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If you were any closer to where I live, I'd buy you a beer. Two thumbs up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:52 PM
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I hate the idea they have that women respond to rudeness by bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:50 PM
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Yes it does, but think of our cohorts and (usually) male counter parts what they do in a day. Compare running a vacuum to building a fence, or blowing out an AC unit. You never see anybody fat in the construction field. Now that's not to say it's a purely male domain. I know a beautiful lady who is a landscaper. Any type of manual labor is good for you, but housekeeping can't give anybody the cardio stamina that landscapers/mechanics/ac techs ect would have. At this point I could never get there…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:07 PM
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Right now I'm picturing Lady Gaga singing about the "N" count: "Can't read my can't read my no he can't read my poker face" I guess what I mean is you can sort of hope for an honest assessment psychologically but there's no way to be sure. Sometimes you have to just take things at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:06 PM
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No. A lot of feminists in the 60's and 70's were anti-porn and it didn't get rid of porn and it didn't end feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:43 AM
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Well I've done it myself. Used the word "son of a bitch" yesterday and had to go back and correct it. Bitch is a dehumanizing word. It's likening a fellow being to a beast. Just like calling other humans pigs or cattle. People do it when they get angry, sure. Should we, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:31 AM
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I have mixed feelings about it. The idea of two spouses living in bliss gives us all warm fuzzies. If their advice to married men helped that's a good thing. Trp still has an issue in advocating social construct that provide a double standard. One set of rules for males, one set of rules for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:29 AM
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That's exactly why trp needs to forget about "N" count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:26 AM
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Ok, that's better, that means there is an exception or an 'escape clause" for the female. I'm assuming according to the red pill philosophy a woman who is highly active with a committed partner is not considered damaged in the way she'd be considered damaged if she had multiple partners. Also I can't find it but I'm fairly sure there were a couple of articles the other day in there about avoiding marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:47 PM
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Ok first of all you are confusing a general concept (the red pill's approach to love) with your personal life. What we are debating is the red pill's philosophy not your marriage. So really we've gotten off track and it's partially my fault and partially yours. What I am saying is what the red pill advocates is conquest not love. The red pill advocates a position that any woman (by its own social rules) is automatically compromised every time she has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:25 PM
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Well it's a person's right not to work. Taxes are usually based on income I believe and to force a human into the work force is proprietary. However you can't have people draining a system. What you need to look for is in vs out when it comes to taxes. If they are male or female makes no difference, but if they don't pay in then they don't take out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:40 PM
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I could be a smart alec and say in the prisons that the men are in are also costing tax payers money. But I won't. What we need to know is the correlation between UNI graduates and their specific tax paying habits later in life. Then see if that study shows a relationship between male and female. Separately if women in your country are not paying taxes then that's a separate debate...are they employed less? If so why? What is happening that is keeping the women from paying taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:28 PM
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I don't know. Maybe they could tone trp down a bit. I don't have the answer really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:18 PM
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The state should discontinue the funding. University can keep teaching anyone and anything they want. Just not at taxpayers' expense. ^ Ok. But that has NOTHING to do with men vs women. At all. Just petition the University to discontinue programs about philosophy and fashion. That's an entirely reasonable option. I don't get this predominantly "male" taxpayer idea. Anybody who works is a tax payer. It just sounds like you've been brainwashed by gender..it's not your fault its cultural but that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:15 PM
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"Universities exist to provide the state and the business with people who can be trusted with expensive equipment and crucial business processes," So why chose women as the demographic to be excluded from access to expensive equipment and crucial business processes? Why would anyone (even a taxpayer) argue in favor of keeping a fellow being from having the same access as everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:55 PM
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I don't even know how to begin arguing with a person who seems to be confused by what exists in a 3 dimensional space and what doesn't. I don't think I should even attempt to try and straighten that out for you. If you want arguments for and against public education that's a separate issue. It seems a shame to argue in favor of ignorance..for anyone. I understand taxes and budget cuts, but most times college is paid for by the job where the woman works. She pays for it, by her own hard work with…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:43 PM
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Just yesterday somebody linked me some theory about male disposability. I totally agree with and support ending male disposability in our culture, and I would march to prevent it in a heart beat. The fact that men take on the most dangerous, health hazardous jobs with the least reward is a big issue. It needs more attention. It's a shame to see something that serious and important sharing webspace with an article about how to get laid like a war-lord". I want to add that serious and important ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:25 PM
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The big deal is if you line those things up, they don't work. Re this part: "Assume being with me isn't akin to being shot to death" ^ If somebody is playing the game to win it pretty much is. Even if they escape HIV, pregnancy and the risk of a rumor it's still hit points. I can by pass "shot to death" if you can accept "Hit with a paint ball" by the opposing team. If you are female, you lose no matter what. And this... " I care that she'll be with me and with nobody else." ^ But you are polyga…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:00 PM
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Everytime I log in to PPD I imagine a small tray in the corner with sliced up fruit and toothpics. I'm surprised they don't give us a cocktail to go with all the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 06:02 PM
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It's kind of fun though it's like having an all hours bar on my home computer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:51 PM
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I agree with that. There's nothing in the world that will ever be as good as brutal honesty. Young women have a long history and a tendency to group together and pick one another apart agonizing over their own appearance. They help each other find what to wear, and how to look a certain way. But in some ways if its among friends and it works it can be a hell of a lot of fun. There is nothing really like that for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:50 PM
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Well it's confusing to an outside observer to have it called "red pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:34 PM
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Whoa first of all education is an infinitely renewable resource. If a man didn't graduate it's not because a woman did graduate. There might be more competition on jobs post grad but there is no such point where information and education need to be truncated. Education is not a physical commodity like textiles. Second we all use what we learned in college socially. I don't care if it's knowing enough to put zinc on a sore, or understanding the definition for "commodity" and "textile". Male or fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:30 PM
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Thank you. It was a nice feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:12 PM
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Fuck yes. I'm not getting any from anybody but that's not different than it was before. At least nobody is yelling at me anymore and I can do whatever the hell I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:02 PM
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See that's empowerment to be fine with just dumping the ex that needs to get dumped when he needs to be dumped. Unfortunately my life wasn't like that'. I'd keep assholes around looong after the dead bedroom. I don't know if I keept on keeping on for fear of the dating arena or what but it wasn't good. There's nothing worse than staying in perpetual misery simply for being afraid of change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:58 PM
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Right on. I can't figure that shit out. It's like, who in the hell is going to know any different. As long as your health is ok. That just comes down to proper safety precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:52 PM
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That would be worlds away from what rpw was trying to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:51 PM
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But you have monogamy with him I assume, so it's not against the grain. But dumping him would be if it would up the "N" count according to the red pill. At least if I understand the program the right way. They have strict rules it looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:49 PM
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It's funny when that happens. The good part is that it gives you a chance to bond with your relative. My dad calls me "mini me". I have another good friend and she and her brother look like twins but they are ten years apart. He is her, ten years older, bald with a beard. Same face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:39 PM
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That clears it up some more too. They seemed kind of incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:27 PM
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All they got to do is to just go to a hardware store with some broken house hold item. "Oh damn my end table's got a bad leg....hey um..scuse me, sir?" Course they'd have to have more than one store. Lowe's might get suspicious if they've seen the same twelve girls and an end table all week.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:01 PM
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Yes that's very true. The web is world wide, so there is bound to be some friction between cultures here and there
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:58 PM
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I think it's probably a result of cultural tensions between urban and rural. Really. How so? Like people are jealous that some could purchase property and some couldn't? That would make a hell of a lot of sense. Land is scarce and we have to fight so damned hard for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:39 PM
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Deer going their own way. :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:36 PM
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It would be difficult for a red pill woman to keep her same set of rules and also hook up with a TRP guy. They just see the world in a totally different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:34 PM
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Yes it is probably a sunnier picture than it was, but our parents and in some cases peoples grand parents were around then. They were just a different sort. The internet has been around since 1980, the hostility wasn't there like it is now. Even 1990 internet use wasn't terrible as far as trolls. I don't know I think the world is angrier and it could be because nobody is getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:33 PM
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My dad has somebody but if not I'd hook you up. I have a single brother but weirdly he turned out looking like Scarlet Johanson. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:28 PM
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That's sad. In a free love society like in the sixties before HIV there were men that stuck around. Though I don't think that they were necessarily monogamous they were definitely less angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:48 PM
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Shit, I'm more or less Jeff Bridges with tits. What is that in your world like a negative eight? http://m0.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/23145717/3-the-big-lebowski-quotes.gif My dad is a better looking dude than I am a good looking chick but we look exactly alike and we look like the dude sort of.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:42 PM
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Yeah, or DGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:24 PM
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Since reproduction is not something that is needed or wanted by all of us sex isn't always an act of reproduction. I know that's the genetic purpose of it but that's not how it's used by a society. It can be entertainment, bonding, or leverage but not reproduction. If sex was always there for reproduction the condom and vasectomy wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:25 PM
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The childless suffer from lack of children ^ No. Just no. You might think your life is incomplete without children but there are entire sections of society that are without kids and couldn't be happier about it. People suffer a lot more by having kids than they suffer by not having kids. Re: Suffering caused by inaction. Yes I can agree to that point. If the oceans are polluted and we do nothing, if our neighbors are hungry and we do nothing. This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:23 PM
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Most women are socialized to do sedentary hobbies (cooking, baking, sewing, nail art ect) shit that's just bad for your health. It takes a while to wise up and realize we'd have been better off doing carpentry and mechanics, lawn care because the traditional "guy" hobbies build muscle, drop weight and yeah chipped nails look a lot better than a big ass. They have an added bonus where you also get to feel productive. Unfortunately in a het relationship the man tends to take that away from the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:50 PM
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Wow. What? That just blew my mind. I'm cracking up laughing right now. I thought the purpose of red pill women was for them to try and hook up with the red pill men. Ok, thank you for clearing that up. What the hell I feel like the dumbest person on reddit right now. No wonder I couldn't figure this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:10 PM
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Well I guess if you opt out of the red pill game there wouldn't be, but if you read the red pill for male or for female it's literally a big pile of social rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:03 PM
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red pill women has its own reddit space. The red pill has totally different rules for men and women, and those social norms lead to one dilemma after another. The social rules for women and the social rules for men are at odds with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:00 PM
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Please explain. I'm confusing what someone wants in a long term relationship with what they want in a one night stand? A one night stand cancels out the chance of a long term relationship at least as far as how the social rules read https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:59 AM
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https://www.webmd.com/men/features/can-you-boost-testosterone-naturally#1 https://www.naturalnews.com/050304_testosterone_foods_hormones_mens_health.html
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:08 AM
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That's a double standard unfreindly to humanism and it would create almost a caste system within about half the planet with the fuckers functioning as the elite and the fuckees nothing but their humble servants. No one who values human worth would advocate for something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:02 AM
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What if you had to chose between sex and power?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:00 AM
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Why do you think just because someone hasn't prioritized reproducing that they are young and naive? That's like assuming because someone hasn't prioritized eating that they are anorexic and sick to their stomach. The abstinent and childless do not suffer, they avoid a lot of suffering. They don't have child support, they don't have labor pains, they skip out on HIV there are millions of benefits to being v-cell
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:00 AM
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Right, my point is that if you want to be serious about humanism you'll eventually have to lose the phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:58 AM
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I've seen males who were ignored and left to fend for themselves and females who were beaten
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:57 AM
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Ok, but chose to do what things specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:59 AM
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Right, and we accomplish that how?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:56 AM
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What meaning did our lives have if we benefited nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:34 AM
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I have had a parent die. One thing my parent couldn't do before dying was ensure that all siblings were equally responsible. The fact that I am responsible is no guarantee that were I to have a child that he or she be responsible. I am a genetic dead end and proud of it. Your grand kids will thank me, when my grand kids aren't there to take their job and their parking spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:33 AM
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There is a lot of noise on the net. Here's hoping something good comes of it all. Here's hoping most of us do it without hurting one another worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:27 AM
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Sometimes its par for course. I know what I've been extremely angry with in my own life and its hard for that anger to find a voice without offending somebody. It's hard to find the right people to listen to what you have to say. I know that some pain that we walk around with in life is devastating..and that it's also at cross purposes with someone else's pain sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:26 AM
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Maybe not. Bra burning and all that was a very different time in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:20 AM
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This is all theoretical of course but there is a documentary called "The world without us". We are a very anthropocentric species, but we haven't demonstrated a great benefit for everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:18 AM
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Ah so there's a means to the madness after all. Well if its for a greater purpose that makes sense. It certainly does get people talking and debating and the more people who look the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:18 AM
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My personal future would go on just fine. I don't die just because I don't have a child. My individual future would most likely be better because I didn't have a child. What relevance is bloodline? The need for it was invented by a feudal system who was using it as an excuse to hoard resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:16 AM
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If people stop breeding the generation who stops breeding will be the last humans on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:12 AM
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There's no human sacrifice involved here. This is advocating one thing....avoiding conception
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:12 AM
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So having less babies would help people be gone before the sun goes out
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:11 AM
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I think you are assuming some people are genetically born "good" and others born "bad" when more likely these are subjective values and/or bi-products of an environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:10 AM
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I can think of plenty of beings who are neither sexy nor powerful and still very busy. What about goals of good health, companionship, artistic value, altruism, pleasure (that's not related to sex), advancements in science, ect
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:08 AM
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Better the economy collapse and be unstable than the entire ecosystem. Cultures come and go, a planet can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:04 AM
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Well MRA I could get behind, TRP is just kind of interesting. I really don't think TRP is doing MRA any favors but that's a topic for a different thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:04 AM
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If 2.1 is the ideal replacement rate, and we want the global population to go down, and some countries have a replacement rate of 7...not procreating is the only way to counterbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:02 AM
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Keep in mind this is all voluntary. So there's no authority needed, neither is their leadership needed. Problems that people are volunteering to talk about would be things like overpopulation, lack of clean water globally, polluted water ways
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:00 AM
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I don’t believe that making a point about someone’s gender is helpful. . As I said before, we should be trying to address violence, period. ^^ This. Emphatically Yes. This part "The cause of men’s ire cannot be reduced to not getting poon." They really need to take that off the pages and make this what it's really about. Human rights deserves 100% better than to be buried under a mountain of dating advice and gender bashing contests. Human rights like the right of a man to be free of pain and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:39 PM
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VHEMT is not country specific. It's basically giving this out as general information. Although 2.1 is not excessive replacement, other countries may have struggles where they can't easily volunteer not to procreate. Those types of issues are beyond the scope of VHEMT. If it's any consolation by volunteering not to procreate people are allowing for more room for other people's extra procreation. So in that sense it's a very charitable cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:26 PM
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Well we are humans, we create the problems and I guess selectively pick which ones we are willing to fix. There is nobody else to ask. There's only us humans. We did it, and we are the only ones to undo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:25 PM
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Yeah that's true. If a person is in a pinch...say mental stress or job loss they can go into opt out mode for a while until they recover from it. Safest bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:22 PM
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Hi Snot-noodle, In the book memoirs of a Geisha, the supremely attractive main character Sayuri has a BFF named Pumpkin. Pumpkin is another Geisha who fancies herself less attractive than Sayuri and spends a good deal of time focusing on each individual facial feature that she has in order to maximize her personal attractiveness. She's already attractive...she's just really insecure about it. Part of Pumpkin's charm though, is that her name is Pumpkin. She is cheerful and one of the better chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:07 PM
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I see what you mean, but there are lots of happily married people that maybe observers don't find them attractive. My or your lack of interest in them didn't mean nobody was interested in them. Likewise I might think I look like hot buttered rum, one day, but if nobody else thinks so then that's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:47 PM
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Me too. I was surprised it didn't go extinct :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:49 PM
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Friend-zone everybody, go out often, go in a group and pay for your own food. This leaves you free and obligated to nothing, but able to meet and greet. If somebody is interested they'll make a big deal about you, if they don't don't worry about it. And don't worry about it until they do. If you do decide to tell someone you are interested in them and take the lead, if you get turned down, don't worry about it. Rejection isn't a big deal move on and keep going. Don't be tempted to play games wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:21 PM
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http://peer.tamu.edu/curriculum_modules/Ecosystems/module_4/whyitmatters.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:54 PM
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Ok, I'll bite..how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:53 PM
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I love how well researched you are. Thank you for the links. It's going to take some time to research it. Back in the 1960's they had the hippies who were anti-war and I think that may have been some "men's rights". This would be a good forum for some things like ending violence against men in prisons. That's the type of thing that people could get behind and care about, rather than getting riled up over who gets poon or not after a night of beer. Genuine humanism is a great thing. Ok watching t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:53 PM
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prioritizing in your life? ^ Ecology, money, survival, human rights Pro-social altruistic goals are very low in priority ^ Why? And why wouldn't they be capable of satisfying people's emotional needs? reign in hell than serve in heaven ^ I always thought that was a dumb analogy. You have to think about what "hell" would mean. In this case, no resources. Shortages, in short misery for those who are left. It's not a reality "today" in my environment or yours, but in any kind of "hell" is a situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:49 PM
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I guess it would depend on someone's personal choice. I can honestly say that there are larger issues that most people deal with that have nothing to do with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:46 PM
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Once again, let me repeat a very important part of the website: VHEMT is naturally in opposition to involuntary extinction of any species, as well as any efforts encouraging human extermination. Not breeding is not self destructive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:59 PM
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In algebra what you do to one side of an equation has to be done to the other side of the equation. X= y-7; if y =8 then x =1 We can figure this out. Now if women have sex, they have it with men (presumably that's what they are counting). The number times a woman (somewhere) has sex = Number of times a man (somewhere) gets laid Now, the red pill male would probably be most likely to want to avoid serial monogamy (as there are complaints about one-itis and the like). Therefore Number of women div…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:46 PM
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Pacific garbage patch https://dgreenwriting.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/great-pacific-garbage-patch.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:50 PM
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So what you're saying is the pacific garbage patch is probably not on the agenda. ;-) I think VHEMT mentioned 7billion people, that's like around 3.5billion vaginas. Good news for the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:46 PM
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Well I feel quite powerful, seeing as how everything depended on my personal individual continued existence. I'm pretty sure things still matter though, with or without me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:42 PM
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So the health of earth is dependent up on my personal perception of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:41 PM
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This is directed to all people regardless of demographic and its that we all need to breed less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:38 PM
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So you think it's a bad idea for me to worry about my impact to whomever (or whatever) is here ten years after I die, twenty years after, three hundred years after?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:36 PM
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VHEMT is opposed to extermination. So no one would extinguish their own life. What it's advocating is that the human species go extinct, eventually, due to lack of reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:35 PM
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VHEMT could certainly use a few more supporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:31 PM
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Well, yes. People enjoy sex, food, a cold beer but usually these things are secondary to everything else we do in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:30 PM
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And that's a bad thing why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:27 PM
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If it's anti-natalist than why would it frown on the other possibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:23 PM
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The primary goal seems to be about mating and with multiple heterosexual partners of child bearing years. The red pill frowns on lifestyle choices that would automatically result in fewer babies like having a girl friend well past her child bearing years, monogamy, celibacy and masturbation. That entire strategy advocated by the red pill would maximize human fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:09 PM
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The comments from some but not all of the other users. That and the fact that the primary goal seems to be about getting laid and with multiple partners of child bearing years. If there is a larger "wrap it up" message that's good. Getting married would probably lead to less pregnancies over all rather than more of them. Also the red pill frowns on lifestyle choices that would automatically result in fewer babies like having a girl friend well past her child bearing years, monogamy, celibacy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:44 PM
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Good answer, vasectomy is a great option. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:40 PM
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Well sure, birth control is a good option. But I'm questioning though how "fun" is defined and if it should prioritized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:18 PM
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Maybe so. But, I think this is a very nice point though that VHEMT has "VHEMT is naturally in opposition to involuntary extinction of any species, as well as any efforts encouraging human extermination." So sitting back not getting any seems like a very peaceful solution to global warming and other ecological concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:15 PM
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No. There was a red pill the other day claiming a need to breed, and stating under population was a concern as to why. Hundreds of them every day are working hard to inseminate as many females as possible, and many of them complain about those who are sitting "on the bench" and not actively dating and mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:07 PM
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The homeless don't exist? http://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-absolute-poverty-definition-causes-examples.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:05 PM
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Well one thing is you have to take into account what woman you are talking about. Some women like a teddy bear of a guy, other ones want a slim dude with a goatee and purple hair. It depends on the woman. There might be an "average" but it's going to vary a lot depending on who is doing the looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:04 PM
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Forgive me if I'm wrong here but I don't think that loneliness and sexual frustration were ever anything that warranted societal fixing. People might be lonely and it sucks but if you are looking for society to fix something lonely people would have to wait behind the hungry, the thirsty, the people in chronic pain ect. Loneliness just isn't that high of a priority
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:48 AM
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Ah. Yes I guess so. Then your question is going to be determined (at least in part) by how much of that is genetic and how much isn't. Height, body size, jaw line ect is genetic. There are always surgeries to change anything physical, it's just expensive. Income might be (in part), but not necessarily. If you were born into a wealthy family or not. Bigger upper body compared to lower body that can be effort. My guess is it's a mixed bag. I was thinking more along the lines of "alpha" meaning the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:42 AM
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Absolutely not. "Alpha" can't be a genetic or inherited trait as it's a subjective claim, and a socially manufactured role. That's like being genetically predisposed to becoming the CEO of Anheuser-Bush
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:04 AM
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There are some unattractive manipulators, but they don't seem to be as successful as attractive manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:49 AM
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