CMV: Red pill enthusiasts are solipsistic about relationships

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-11-05T11:04:15+00:00

I value love. In fact it's the entire reason why I am probably going to be single for the rest of my life. I don't want children and I don't want the usual family white picket fence bullshit; I want a woman who would be my lifelong companion and friend, someone worthy of my commitment and who would respect me as much as I would her.

Love the way I understand it is idealistic, it's an utopia. In reality when people say 'love' they mean desire and lusty affection, which is a product of seduction and is fleeting. When women say "I love you but I'm not in love with you" they mean exactly that - the 'butterflies in the stomach' are no longer there, the Chad has lost his novelty and all his downsides are now glaring and he's now a mere man.

So I don't want to pursue the normie love because it's fleeting and I can't pursue true love because unicorns don't exist. What I can do is to either get as much intimacy as possible without getting too attached, or to just give up on the whole thing. After all, nature created love to ensure that we reproduce - nothing more, nothing less

larrythetomato · 2017-11-05T14:07:50+00:00

Red pill seems to want to miss the entire relationship. There are people that are only having sex with others not even in order to form a relationship.

Remember that TRP on reddit is effectively a school, which takes in broken men and spits out men fixed enough to face the real world. It won't be able to advance like a university, and grow and change. At some point people there will need to leave after they have learned enough.

So change my view, are there any red pill people who value love?

What RP teaches is that the way you love your partner as a manis not the same way that she loves you back. It is effectively impossible for her to love you the same way. When you understand and appreciate the fact, then you will be able to get back the most purest form of love that a woman can offer.

When I find a partner, that person in my eyes hung the sun, moon and stars. The joy comes from laughing with them, buying them gifts, cooking them breakfast, waiting to see them again, remembering all the good times we had together.

Well have you found someone like this? If you have, then why are you here wasting time, go spend time with them. approximately 10% of women and 5% of men find their soul mates. The discrepancy is because women share male soul mates (not at the same time), but in terms of soul mate-type personality, what works on one women tends to work on many.

If you haven't found someone. TRP will tell you that if you say that to her too soon, she will be turned off, whoever she is. BP people will tell you things like love prevails. While as a RP person, I'll tell you that things like her fertility cycle makes a massive difference, so if you get rejected, try again in ~ 2 weeks, and you might see drastic differences.

newName543456 · 2017-11-05T12:57:16+00:00

Value in what sense?

Love is not an inherently bad or worthless thing, it's not a primary determinant of my actions though.

selective-autism · 2017-11-05T14:12:57+00:00

Red pill enthusiasts are fearful about relationships. They view them as a bleak zero-sum game in which territory comes at great cost and strategy and tactics are deadly serious matters.

When red pillers assert the superior purity of male love it is the male hamster spinning the frailty and weakness of their emotional integrity into a blanket statement of female malevolence. Red pillers understand, as all men eventually do, that "oneitis" is a congenital condition of the male mind, an affliction to be managed and quarantined. Most women are too rational about relationships to lose themselves this way.

The red pill is addicts rationalizing their habit in the most risk-averse way they can. "I won't drink too deeply of one woman," they say.

CasinoLucky · 2017-11-05T15:31:28+00:00

I think you are the more solipsistic one here.

Some people want what you describe, good for them.

Some people want casual sex, good for them.

Dont take yourself, your ideas and your wants as a standard for others.

And love?

Love is different for everyone and outed different by everyone.

MissMaude · 2017-11-05T16:28:29+00:00

While I agree with your title, I think you’re defining “solipsistic” in a strange way. You’re assuming that RPers are opting out of love rather than just not receiving it from women. I think the latter is a common reason they go searching for casual relationships.

PIBagent · 2017-11-05T16:58:33+00:00

What used to be called "love" is now labeled "oneitis" like a disease..even if it's the thing that could keep someone crawling over broken glass to hold their lover's hand.

If it has you willing to crawl over glass its clearly not healthy.

notworthmuch20xx · 2017-11-05T17:28:31+00:00

Red pill seems to want to miss the entire relationship.

They don't think it exists. It doesn't mean they want to miss it.

jkonrad · 2017-11-06T06:38:07+00:00

Relationships and love is outside the purview of TRP, which is concerned with sex and how to get more of it. In this context monogamy in dismissed almost on principle alone. With no monogamy it's more difficult for relationships to flourish with love.

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NalkaNalka · 2017-11-05T14:52:21+00:00

While your title has some truth to it, the body of your post has no logical connection to the title.

Title	CMV: Red pill enthusiasts are solipsistic about relationships
Author	tempuserthrowaway5
Upvotes	4
Comments	81
Date	November 5, 2017 10:31 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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