Here's a window into how feminists define rape. XPost from r/feminism

dalsgaard · 2012-10-30T23:08:01+00:00

It's interesting to read. On one hand, she's having a very human response, where she acknowledges that she probably shouldn't have gotten that drunk, and that it's partly her own responsibility for going to the bar with the guy, and having sex the next morning, and all those complications.

On the other, she has this 'rad-fem' rationalization hanging over her head, that tells her she should totally throw him under the wagon. All the theories tell her that he's an asshole and that it can only be his fault, and that he's a villain, and that he will be doing this sort of thing on purpose, and bla bla bla....

But now that she has ended up in the kind of situation she has read about, she recognizes that it's a lot more complicated and not so black and white. She can't reconcile these crazy radical theories with actual experience, because actual experience has grey zones unknown facets, and dillemmaes.

I like her a lot. She's a good person I think, she's just got some really crazy ideas into her head.

EDIT: By the way, I'm not OK with this. She posted because she wanted to share her story, and because she wanted to get her feelings validated. She wasn't going to report him. She just seemed a bit distraught, and disillusioned about the whole feminism thing. Then a link gets posted here, and a fuckton of angry MRA's come a-storming. Now she has deleted her account. Great work, guys.

MechPlasma · 2012-10-31T01:07:58+00:00

Short version: women has drunk sex with a drunk guy. Thinks she might have passed out. Says that her problem isn't trauma, it's that she's mentally conflicted because she doesn't think it was awful, yet her definition of rape says it was.

Half the comments are saying her definition is wrong, the other half is absolutely outraged that people aren't treating her like a trauma victim.

Oh, and word of advice: don't comment in the thread. It'd be wrong to if you got linked there from here.

ThePigman · 2012-11-01T01:01:21+00:00

Funnily enough, this post provided a second window -- into how feminists can start off being reasonable but turn into bullshit slingers as soon as they start losing. For a moment i actually thought i had bumped into some fairly rational feminists. Silly me.

DeanOnFire · 2012-10-31T04:35:18+00:00

Really, I'm upvoting this content for visibility. I don't necessarily agree with it since we've heard the story before, but from a more human perspective. She's at least not up in arms, taking legal and physical action, which is what everyone on this board would paint an ideal feminist. She may or may not have been raped; we don't know how drunk the other guy was, they "had sex before she left", and refers to him as a fuckbuddy.

This breaks down a couple of barriers some people idealistically have about rape, but all-in-all, it has nothing to do with MRA.

2012-10-31T06:17:52+00:00

Seems to me the top comments are extremely reasonable. They are just saying, hey you got drunk, went to his house, and you were so black out drunk you messed around so you can't call rapist on him just because you have regrets. Doesn't that sound reasonable to you?

ThePigman · 2012-10-30T22:43:42+00:00

It will probably be deleted so here is my comment...

"'I remember us getting back to his place and laying on his bed, basically passing out. He was doing his thing, getting all handsy and I was half-heartedly responding, but I'm pretty sure I fell asleep.'

How do you know you were raped? You were so drunk you could have consented and forgotten everything. This is the kind of thing that makes feminists look insane, not to mention anti-male. You have no idea what happened, yet assume the man's guilt. Amazing."

Title	Here's a window into how feminists define rape. XPost from r/feminism
Author	ThePigman
Upvotes	5
Comments	21
Date	October 30, 2012 10:40 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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