We have used words like mangina and white knight when describing men who kowtow to feminist approval and group-think. Maybe there is a simpler word. Coward, for example.

Pecanpig · 2012-10-15T04:31:42+00:00

I think it says something about the quality of discourse when you say that all men who support feminism are "surrendering reason, morality, surrendering the right to an identity as a human being, in favor of the consensus identity afforded to him by the group, based on his utility, his conformance, or his affectations of supplication to the preferred members of the group, such as women".

I'm not saying there aren't some men out there defending feminism because they are dependent on female approval. I am saying the use of terms like white knight and mangina (the author prefers the term good man) leads to dismissing peoples arguments with ad hominem attacks rather than engaging with them.

2012-10-15T04:26:51+00:00

I tend towards "doormat". But "coward" is good too.

dumbguyscene28 · 2012-10-15T04:40:04+00:00

I think white knight is not insulting, has a reasonable cultural reference, and holds a lot more definitional power than coward.

I don't think coward expresses what John The Other is describing in the first part of his essay. Is he trying to express the condition of being a serf, or supplicant, or a monk, or novice, or one of the mortified?

Actually JtO tags it with the correct name, a sycophant or a flatterer.

That said, I think mangina is insulting, has no relationship to how I feel about vaginas, or women, or sex, and begs people to call us name and think the worst of us. It annoys me and makes me want to distance myself from "Men's Rights".

I would love to read Paul Elam promise to never use it again as AVfM and explain why. I think it just hurts us, and I think it should.

So I don't know how to express the totality of what John is describing here, but it doesn't seem to be coward.

I'd label it the bipolar feminist sycophant and the white knight.

I do think this describes the bullshit caught up in the name of "The Good Men Project"

Bobsutan · 2012-10-15T10:33:45+00:00

I prefer the word "sycophant".

rebuildingMyself · 2012-10-16T08:32:56+00:00

"Nice Guy" is more accurate. If you've read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" you'd know what I meant.

frederickharttt · 2012-10-16T03:33:52+00:00

I think the word is brainless.

2012-10-15T16:58:11+00:00

Fool, Man-child, Mamma's boy, Panty sniffer, Femophile, Suckler. Pretty much anything that exploits the Momma-with-overgrown-child meme. I bet the Russians have some great names for this.. I'll call some of my Slavic friends.

Hypersapien · 2012-10-15T05:52:55+00:00

I have a much better, much more succinct term: traitor.

married_woman_plus_k · 2012-10-16T07:29:20+00:00

How about liberal.

Or emasculated weenie.

Or tweebo.

I think mangina is a pretty good one though.

southernasshole · 2012-10-15T21:28:23+00:00

I tend to use masochist.

In my mind the only reason any man would kowtow to feminism would be

A) they don't know any better, conditioned all their lives to lick feminine boot.

Or

B) Love the abuse.

JesusSaidSo · 2012-10-15T15:00:41+00:00

I don't think coward accurately represents the people described the the terms "mangina" and "white knight". Neither group of people are doing what they do out of cowardice.

My understanding might be a bit convoluted, but to me, manginas are males thinking in stereotypically female ways. Manboobz is the typical mangina.

White Knights are males stuck in stereotypical male roles that feminists love to exploit. These types of males think that women need to be protected and cared for over men and, at times, to men's expense. White Knights are a holdover from Chivalry.

None of this is cowardice to me. Though there are male feminists that are cowards. You see these males in universities with vocal feminist populations. These males hold on to feminists beliefs out of fear of being ostracized from their social setting if they do not.

Title	We have used words like mangina and white knight when describing men who kowtow to feminist approval and group-think. Maybe there is a simpler word. Coward, for example.
Author	johntheother
Upvotes	14
Comments	15
Date	October 15, 2012 4:12 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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