Deleted from 2xc: How to cultivate indifference and contempt towards women from men

GREATBIGDICK · 2012-07-02T13:48:04+00:00

Why would you post this in 2XC? To be deleted and come here for sympathy is my guess.

Grapeban · 2012-07-02T02:31:26+00:00

Eventually people like John The Other are going to have to learn that saying, "No, trust me, I'm not a misogynist, some of my best friends are women!" or whatever reason him and people like him come up with, isn't going to excuse them from saying things like:

it cements my not giving a shit about the opinions of women.

You can't excuse misogyny by telling us about all those other times you weren't misogynistic.

And refusing to care about the opinions of women because of what other women have said? Yeah, that's misogyny. The fact that he said he doesn't care about women's opinions, instead of the opinions of people who resort to personal attack reveals serious misogyny on his part.

Basically, hey John? When the stupidity of Woman A convinces Man A to treat Woman B with contempt, don't blame Woman A and Woman B, blame Woman A and Man A. The fact that you seem to be placing the blame on Woman A and Woman B rather than Woman A and Man A, yeah, highlighting your misogyny.

Though I suppose John wouldn't care what I have to say, since he doesn't give a shit about women's opinion.

Edit: I realise I could present my argument by presenting a gender swap scenario, I'll just paste in John's work and then bold my replacements

Every day or two, I'll stumble across an anecdotal story, or piece of writing by a male writer, talking about some aspect of sexism from a male perspective. Usually, while the stories show a legitimate cause for the type of low level venting these stories present, there is another element present as well. There is almost always a degree of assumed contempt towards average women. Examples include referring to online gamers as “attention seeking whores”, or referring to owners of cats being lonely spinsters, or dismissing justified anger as PMS. There are many more examples, and they are almost always a very minor descriptive element in whatever issue is being related.

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In the original posting which prompted me to write this, I stopped reading in the first sentence, on seeing the phrase attention seeking whores. Whatever else was said, I don't know, because that phrase erased my interest in whatever the original author was saying. His opinion became irrelevant, and he became irrelevant as a person. I copy-pasted the pseudo -apology at the end, because it stood out, being written in all caps, but wherever else was written, I'll never see. Am I an attention seeking whore? No, I'm a virgin, I'm not an online gamer, I'm attention shy, have a career, I dress well et-cetera. But whenever I see some casual, throw away comment like whore, slut or other minor belittling insult used to describe average women, it cements my not giving a shit about the opinions of men.

This should not be misunderstood, I don't hate men, I don't believe in any “stay out of the kitchen” nonsense, or any other male-targeted belittlement. What I'm talking about is my personal attitude towards men's opinions, their utterances, their writing, their thoughts, their contribution to society. If you are a man reading this, that means your thoughts, ideas, speech, writing and so on.

Title	Deleted from 2xc: How to cultivate indifference and contempt towards women from men
Author	johntheother
Upvotes	0
Comments	51
Date	July 2, 2012 2:19 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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