Feminists are responsible for the results of feminism, even if they claim to be "good" feminists

2012-01-05T20:44:13+00:00

Feminism as argued by feminists is all the good parts of feminism and none of the bad parts of feminism.

Demonspawn · 2012-01-05T12:10:14+00:00

First Bush, then Obama, now every feminist gets their turn on the Hitler carasol.

Demonspawn · 2012-01-05T15:15:49+00:00

Here's what I have handy from when GS decided to debate the term "Feminzai"

[T]here are more similarities between Feminism and Nazism than there are differences. The biggest difference is the Holocaust.. that it hasn't happened (yet?). Both are propaganda spreading hate groups that gain political power by targeting the ills of society on a socially accepted hated group (Jews in Hitler's case, Men in Feminism's case). They then use that political power to restrict the activities of the targeted group, criminalize many of that group's behaviors, and over-claim the damage caused by said group (hence the feminist manipulation of statistics to spread hate). Both were based on Marxist principles. Both use the hated group as the scapegoat for the lack of advancement of the preferred group.

As for the Holocaust aspect of the comparison, we have seen inklings of that as well. Marlyn French and other Feminists have advocated for population control of the males in our species. To date, I have not heard of any mainstream Feminist group that has distanced themselves from those remarks nor admonished those who said them. Feminism's current plan is to criminalize as much male behavior as possible to remove men from society via incarceration. The reason this is used is feminism lacks the political power to have the same type of concentration camps as Germany had. It could also be because they don't need them; our goverment is more than happy to hand over men's work to women via child support, alimony, and other female subsidies. To encamp men might not be the ultimate goal as that would reduce the amount of money being transfered from male to female hands at government gunpoint.

So no, this is not 1944-ish Nazism to which Feminism is being compared, more like 1938-1939 Nazism. You know, back when Hitler was Time magazine's "Man of the Year."

I have no doubt that within a decade or two, if things go unchecked, some people will be asking why the men didn't fight back much like they asked why the Jews didn't.

And another poster's take:

Interesting that one can easily see all manner of parallels between men in the U.S. being victimized, and those victimized by the now "unmentionables". Some examples beyond the oft-cited ones include

targeting of a group which is, on average, more economically successful (just like men being targeted by women who are under guidance/control of quasi-government "professionals" )
targeting of a group which is, on average, more educated and intelligent (average Jewish IQ, according to my psych 101 class years ago is/was 112 -- average male IQ is 5+ points higher than average female IQ -- Lawrence Summers was considerably more subtle and sensitive in guiding researchers to this question before being knocked off by those who cannot hear criticism of women without lashing out brutally at the speaker -- even an academic)
seizing and liquidating the assets of the targeted group to fund the war on the targeted group
enlistment of lower-level functionaries who "need their jobs" and don't have any particular hatred for the targeted group, but aren't sufficiently in possession of their own conscience to stop and say "no", I will not injure another

But what I think is most valuable about maintaining the freedom to analogize to the best-documented (and yes, most horrific) abuse of one "group" by another which we have in the entire Western world, is its predictive utility.

And sadly, what these proper analogies predict, Glenn, is that what is being done to fathers in America will likely get much, much worse before it gets better.

Scott2508 · 2012-01-05T12:55:04+00:00

The nazi comparison in a lot of ways is comparable.

1, The focus on pushing each household towards there ideology by first targeting the mother, a tactic used in germany at the time.

2, In order to galvanise a group of people who from an economic and social standpoint by offering them a group that is perceived as being socially and economically better off , jews=men

3, Changing policy to favor the class who are viewed as being less and the others are punished through policy .

Now this is where it is divergent and where thankfully the nazi/feminisim comparison gets muddy ......... we have the nazi like feminists who are the radfems. hating all and in a lot of cases looking for a final solution esque concept of killing us off , and then there are the moderates ( and i use the term loosely ) who live with just hating .

windynights · 2012-01-05T13:06:36+00:00

Feminism is a plague. It has screwed up more young women, fractured more families, handicapped more communities than one can imagine. It is an ideology wholly out of sync with democratic society.

Title	Feminists are responsible for the results of feminism, even if they claim to be "good" feminists
Author	JeremiahMRA
Upvotes	1
Comments	12
Date	January 5, 2012 10:13 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/o3tbj/feminists_are_responsible_for_the_results_of/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/feminists-are-responsible-for-the-results-of.1029630 https://theredarchive.com/post/1029630

Comments